In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses the importance of understanding and teaching the information related to personal freedom and sovereignty. He emphasizes the need to have a command of the information to defend one's position and the empowerment that comes with it. The conversation touches on various topics, including the significance of the passport application process, the implications of executive orders, and the historical context of the U.S. Constitution and its amendments. The host also shares insights on the influence of secret societies and the role of the media in shaping public perception.
Listeners are encouraged to take control of their freedom by understanding the legal and historical frameworks that govern their lives. The episode also features a discussion on the geopolitical tensions involving Ukraine and Russia, highlighting the complexities of international relations and the potential for conflict. The host invites audience participation, encouraging listeners to share their experiences and insights, particularly regarding the passport application process and the nuances of national versus state citizenship. The episode concludes with a call for continued education and awareness in the pursuit of personal sovereignty.
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Changing the world. Changing the world just a little bit is what we're about here at the Radio Ranch. You don't have to be dramatic. All you have to do is a little. And we continually try that on a six day a week basis, if you work all the time Saturdays for you. On this, June, Roger Sales at the Radio Ranch. Welcome. I think today we got more work for Paul than we had yesterday. We're gonna find out just a second here. Mister Beaner, if you would please step forward, get in the spotlight, and let's, identify these folks that help us. We wanna thank them and identify them both.
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Yeah. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Actually, WDRN Productions is not with us today. Oh. They're still dealing with, this, that, and the other thing. We are, however, on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the pond. We're on our flagship station, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to, pastor Eli James. Absolutely a treat to have him on the program yesterday. And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk, Global Voice, and a free conference call to join us live on the show or on our website, thematrixdocs.com. The matrix docs Com. Gotcha. Wasn't that, wasn't that awesome yesterday?
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Well, it was a a big surprise for sure. And, of course, Eli Eli and I have known each other. We've never met. We've known each other for many years now. And, our paths cross again here. And, I because without Skype being set up, I can't I don't know. I didn't even know his email address, so we always communicate through Skype. So, I heard him on Paul English's show here a couple of weeks ago, and it's nice for you to invite him over. I because he came in on Skype, and I kept seeing the video show up. And I didn't know he was coming. I was going, who is that guy? Where how does he get on there? So, anyway, it's great to have Eli yesterday. He's an old friend and, right in the right square in the, between the lines here with the what we are. He's never emphasized it enough, and that goes to part of the situation with our message here. If you don't really generally dig into this, you don't see the depth of it.
You can see on the top, yes, this, that, and the other, but you don't you can't see, and it takes a while to get your arms around the fact that this is all of it right here. All the power they've had, everything they've ever built off this funny money system, all of it built on the back of slaves, this is the big kahuna right here. But it like I said, people don't really delve into it and spend some time with it, then they probably will not realize that. That's a shortcoming. I don't know how to correct except to, say as I do to everybody, and I think it's totally true, that your the degree of your freedom here is directly, directly coordination with the proportionately with how well you know the information.
Mhmm. The command of the information because only when you have that can you defend your position. If you don't have that and and one of these goons comes up to you, you don't know what to say, and he's probably gonna trap you. You're not gonna believe you, and you haven't made very much headwind on being free. And the other criteria here is to teach it to others. Now that becomes critically important because if you want to really learn the the material, teach it. I mean, that's just simple. You know? If you wanna learn something, you start teaching it to others, and you'll figure out pretty quick where the holes are that you don't have command of. Go back, fill them, and teach it again. Yeah. And if you really wanna learn the material, that's the fastest best way to do it. Because you don't have to learn. When I say learn the material, I don't mean every jot and every tittle, you know.
The you don't have to be able to tell them how the, the self help remedies changed the, just civil, the common law of Rome, over to the just Jensen, the law of the foreigner. Yeah. You don't have to know all that, but you do have to have a command of it so you can defend yourself and, as I said, explain it to others. Now, Paul, you wanted to say something there?
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Look. Yeah. It's learning the information is important, so you're in a position to be able to defend yourself and defend your position. But more importantly than that, you don't really, you don't really become as empowered and bulletproof as the peace of mind that knowing that information gives you. It's part of the empowerment process.
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And I totally agree with you. Okay.
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Get yourself out of that slave mentality, out of that I've gotta ask permission for everything mentality.
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Right. Right. And the most people have that coming into this. Most people do. And, Paul is absolutely correct. This goes back to a I'm gonna paraphrase this. Judge Learned Hand, one of our great appellate level judges. He was he was so good, they never would put him on the Supreme Court. In one of his, decisions, I'm gonna paraphrase again. He says to to to defend one's rights, one needs to be a belligerent claimant. Now it's much more eloquent from the good judge. That's his real name, by the way, Learned Hand.
And, mister Hand, you're absolutely correct. You shorten it down to defend one's rights. One must be a belligerent claimant. Now belligerency does not mean necessarily having a mini baseball bat in your back pocket where you can beat the holy crap out of some bureaucrat. As much as you'd want to, that doesn't mean that. It does mean just getting in their face and saying, no. You're wrong. I'm right, and this is why. Or you don't have the ability to tell me what I am because then you're an open tyrant, just like, this magistrate judge down in Irondale, Alabama, unfortunately.
And there's a few of them out there, and, that's the battle we fight is education. It's not a and the thing that I really just gives me a lot of discomfort mentally is when I get the sense that somebody just wants to file a piece of paper and go on about their life. Because when you do that, nothing changes. Right. It's it's not good for anybody. K? Really. So, anyway, that's going on. That's what we're here for. I was titillated yesterday a bit. Paul, with, a new a new, a, a new person that's been lurking out there. It was a female, and her name was her name was CJ. I guess her initials are CJ.
And I've we haven't spoken to her to my knowledge before, and so it was a pleasure to hear her comment and then not recognizing her voice, pinning her ears back a little bit. It's like, exactly who are you? You know? Because we wanna know. Curious minds want to know. So CJ, if you feel comfortable with it, we'd love to have you step forward again, find out a little bit more about you, how you've been how long you've been lurking and where you live and in the area, that sort of thing. So if you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't do it. But if you do, we'd love to get to know you better. We'd like to know the audience here. As you heard, a lot of people interacted yesterday. We had a lot of people yesterday that, were commenting on, the information that the good pastor, Eli was bringing us.
So that's happening. We're getting closer and closer to World War three, out of Ukraine or hell out of Gaza. Who knows, maybe. Either one, and our our our Iran. Iran. But, the Ukraine position is just it's just so sickening. And then what Julie brought us yesterday, I've heard a lot more on since that was this Palantir contract that's been signed and who these people are and how long they've been messing around and who they really are and kinda what's in the background. It looks like what they're doing, and that is disturbing. And, I I just hope it's another one of these deals where Trump didn't get the wool pullover to us.
It's been confirmed evidently that he did not know about a, the assassination attempt on, Putin, and he didn't even know about the, the Pearl Harbor day in Russia. Was that Sunday that they pulled that off? I think it must have been. Of course, Russia being a cath a Russian Orthodox church country, they would be, in church and on a Sunday routine, so that'd be a good day for these monsters to do that. They probably been planning this for a long time. You did you get the skinny on that, Paul?
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No. No. I didn't. But I did look up the dictionary definition of belligerent. Yes. And the definition is hostile face. And aggressive Yep. And engaged in a war or conflict.
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Oh, are we?
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Uh-huh. Yeah. That's that's pretty much it.
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Okay. Well, that's pretty much true. Like I said, you don't have to carry a baseball bat around with you, but, that's the type of belligerence seed that the word kinda connotates that. But it doesn't mean that. It means, like, I'm gonna get in your face, and I'm gonna show you right here and here and here where you're wrong. And I'm gonna tell you that you don't have the ability to tell me what I am or you're an open tyrant. And open tyrants get hung, in case you didn't know that.
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Well, that is also the definition through, Oxford
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or Oxford language. Oxford dictionary? Oxford Yeah. College? Well, that's the finest dictionary in the world.
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Yeah. But I'm, Although they've been Okay. I I think the Merriam Webster definition would be better.
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Okay. We'll read us that.
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Inclined to or exhibiting assertiveness, hostility, or nativeness. There you go. That that would be more because I very young. I would I looked at the Oxford dictionary, and the English people are just so damn polite. You know? It They're persnickety.
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They're very persnickety.
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Yeah. But they but they would they would, they would perceive assertiveness as being combative. They would Yeah. They would see belligerence as as, like, this horrible thing Yeah. When Uh-huh. Americans would see it as just being able to exhibit assertiveness and Mhmm. Standing up for your rights and, well, essentially, waging a war of words.
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Well I know. And it's funny that the opposite of that is the the British army is considered the biggest bullies in the world. So that's interesting, juxtaposition there. So, anyway, you said you didn't know what happened in Ukraine. Must be it it kinda is up your alley, Paul, because they did this with 18 wheelers. Oh my god. What what they did was take a and build a false, of ceiling into the 18 wheelers, and they would have the drones there. And so that's how they got strikes 4,000 miles away on the other side of the country, literally. Russia's a big country. I think they got 11 time zones. And some of those attacks were on those bases and stuff that were on the Eastern side of the country.
So this has been in planning for a long time, and I don't know. We I haven't heard yet this morning, at least, on anything current. I heard that mister Putin has, reached out to bitch slap him, but, boy, I can't wait. I'm I'm telling you, they they're just unsufferable, these bastards. They're gonna have something, and they're gonna have it. Just like the example we mentioned yesterday with the Sudinlands in Poland. Same exact thing. And that's what started World War two. K? The, German invasion of Poland. And, so well, actually, I I retract that. What started World War two was the, worldwide boycott on on German goods by the Jewish community.
They're always pulling some crap. They've always got to fill and nobody you can't you you can't expose them. You can't get over the base that they've laid, to my knowledge, anywhere in the world without the information we've got. Mhmm. This information stops them. It stops their little mouth from running because they can't say anything. And it it it frees us while simultaneously, it indicts them because they can't deny it. So everything I'm gonna be a national, well, what's that say? Underneath is that, well, you've tricked me into being a slave, you bastards, and now I'm getting out of it. They can't say no because what you are is your opinion and your decision. And then right underneath that is that IRS paragraph that pretty well well, it it does a pretty damn good silences the IRS. I mean, they they give a little quiver every now and then that they've still got some lifeline going, but it pretty well silences them. K? Oh. And they can't step over the line because, again, the information is so damaging.
They really can't risk bringing this out in some kind of a forum. So, very cool. And, that's what we got, folks. If you're new, we got the ultimate, Kryptonite for Superferricide, and, we'd love to help you get free and out from under Revelation two and three nine, fake Jew slavery.
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Yep. Who was it? That Reagan was talking about. That was Gorbachev. Mister Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Down the wall? Yeah. Okay. Well, I've got a message for, mister Putin. Mister Putin, you know who's behind all of this mop a mop.
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Take them out. I I can't believe he hasn't done it more more yet. He's had a lot of resolve, shows the amount of of why I consider him such a good statesman. But at some point, he's got the problem that he's got some hawks behind him that are really, really PO'd that they haven't unleashed more on these sorry little bastards. And it's that influence that, could could could shift the tide. Samuel, was that you trying to say something?
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Yeah. It's a little sketchy just yet. I don't know how long it happened, but it looks like they did their third attempt on trying to blow up the cursed bridge as well.
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Okay. Well, it wouldn't surprise me in a bit. They are desperate to get this thing started, folks. And that shows you how tedious the financial system is underneath because that's the reason for all of it. And, well, one of the reasons they have this hate for the Russkies, the Rus', as, they were called before they were called Russia. The Rus', when they came down and totally, broke up and disintegrated the Khazar kingdom, they they've got ancient ancient hatreds here to the same extent that they've got with the, Arabs. K? And with us. Now I I saw rabbi Weiss being interviewed here on something one of you had sent me here about a week ago, and I'm familiar with rabbi Weiss. He's a mighty seems like a mighty good guy. I'd love to sit down and talk with him.
And, of course, rabbi Weiss said, well, listen. The Israelis, he's Zionist. They hate really hate two people. They they hate the Jews, the Orthodox Jews, and then they hate the Arabs. So according to him, they hate the Orthodox Jews more than they do the Arabs. Holy smoke. K? I don't know if you know when they've got the little beanie on and they're fornicating with that wall, Solomon's Temple's wall. And that's evidently what they're doing is fornicating with it. If you gotta fornicate with a wall, there's something real wrong with you. And, and the Zionist get out there and get bags of human feces, paper bags, and throw human feces at them. I do know that for a fact.
So, they're ugly, ugly people. They're really, really desperate. They're getting exposed on every front just wonderfully. I I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime, but it's happening right now. And, keep exposing them. Keep exposing them. Keep pressing our message because they've got usually some sort of pat answer for the other stuff. You know? Oh, they're terrorists. Well, they don't do anything with this. They don't even call us white supremacists even though when you file this, you are a white supremacist. You're a white nationalist too. Play right into their words.
So anyway, that's what's going on. I we can discuss this palletier thing, all that kind of stuff or, unless we got any new people. If we've got new people, that have a question or comment, you're the priority because you're why we're here. We get to do all this other stuff peripherally because you don't step forward. But when you do, we kind of put the spotlight on you because you're the most important person here. So if any of you fit that category and criteria, please step
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forward. And we don't bite.
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Well, now I'm too old to bite. I gum a little bit. I've got so many teeth problems. I could gum you a bit, but that's about all I'm gonna do. So if we've got any of you folks, please, we'd love to meet you. And if not, save it for another day. So who in the audience has got something to add here this morning?
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Roger?
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There's somebody right there. Is Sheldon is that same Samuel again? Sheldon?
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Yes, sir. I sent a text to CJ, and maybe she'll join later on it for her. She had a two hour window
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I'm done. Well, great. Okay. Well, you know her then, evidently.
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Yeah. I I met her off of, Gavin's network last year, about last summer. So I'm from California.
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Okay. Well, it I've it seems I don't know if we've spoken before or not, but if she wants to come forward and she sound like a charming lady, we'd certainly love to, enhance our our knowledge of each other. So, anyway, she does. She does. If she doesn't, it's okay. What? Do what, Paul? I I think you have spoken to her, but, but it was only like one time.
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Ago. Long time ago. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, good. Let's see what else is going on. Who else has got something they'd like to start off? You wanna talk about this Palantir stuff, Julie? Julie's the one that first brought it to us yesterday on Monday when they had ever evidently done it. It's a it's a just all over. It's nothing but CIA, and they're just using a backdoor way into trying to do what they were doing before. And, unfortunately, it appears, that mister Trump has knowingly or unknowingly has taken the bait. So hopefully, we'll see, and it'll get exposed to him like some of these other deficiencies.
And you can see, Julie, just second. You can see that they're pulling the same crap they did in the first term. They're just not informing him on stuff. K? Yeah, Julie. Couple of things I wanna yak with you about. You wanna expand on this Palantir thing?
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It's real ugly. Trump took money Trump Trump took money from him. Of course, he knows all about this. He took hundreds of millions of dollars from him.
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From the guy that runs Palantir? Because that was not I haven't heard that before. Yeah. From Peter Thiel. From Peter Thiel. He's a veteran all over the government. Yep.
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Alright. Well, it's really ugly. He also by the way, he also financed he he also financed Vance.
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He'd be financed what? Vance.
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JD Vance.
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Oh, Vance. Okay. Well, that's the game they play. They take that money and spread it around on both sides so that they get this kinda input and control. It's nothing new. I mean Okay. I gotta go and send me an eye doctor appointment. I'll call Okay. Fine. Alright. You take off. Hope your eyes are doing better than mine. It's, it's unfortunate and maybe, something will turn on this, as it has on some of the other occasions, and we'll just see. But it's, basically, for the audience that may have been distracted yesterday, didn't hear about this. This Palantir program was the guy that I I guess financed it, but I don't think he's running it. It's some other guy. And, his thing is, well, we stopped the far right movement in Europe.
You know, like the, AEFD in Germany, I believe. And, but then they do other stuff. They're like hired guns, and they you know, it's like the old question about lawyers, Paul, and you say, what do you what do you call a person who will argue either side of an issue for money? A lawyer. A horror. And so that's what this guy is, and they use it for evidently both sides of the political spectrum. But I don't know. It supposedly gathers ALC has been in some kind of operation in some of the agencies already, and what brought it to the forefront here was, SOS HHS and IRS.
That's who they're pitching it to yesterday, I think. Mhmm. And, so anyway well, the real question is, you just make sure you get my national status in that database correctly. Okay?
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Yeah. Raj? Yes, sir. That's exactly where all of this started. I think, the first place that they got a foothold was in the Department of Health and Human Services. That's the first place.
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You mean well, no. I, you mean a hundred ninety years ago?
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Yeah. Well, that's that's where they first exhibited their control.
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Well, there wasn't even a Social Security back then. I don't know about HHS, but I do know that the first agency that they used was Department of Agriculture. That's a cabinet level position. It's now an agency. But, of course, the commies are gonna take over anything to do with the land and production, And that's where they that's the platform, the plank, if you will, that they drove all of the commies in. Harry Dexter, White, Alger, Hiss, all those guys came in to government service through the Department of Agriculture. That was up almost a hundred years ago. But, there them I meant to mention that to Eli yesterday. I said, Eli, do you realize we've been in Babylonian captivity going on ninety three years now? Because I don't think he's ever had it phrased like that to him.
So, Paul, can you take the show for a minute? I've got to go, see my landlord about something real quick. They just got back. Yeah. I can do that. So just take it for a minute. I'll be back in a few minutes.
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Yeah. What I had heard, and I don't remember where I heard it from, was that, the, the health departments and the Department of Health and Human Services and all that, that was one of the first, real well, I guess the most recent early control vehicles that they've put in, and, of course, they do that, you know, under the auspices of, we have to give this agency so much authority and so much control because we have we have the health and the happiness of the the citizenry, the populace, to take care of. So they were given a broad latitude to do just about whatever they wanted to. And the people didn't complain about it, you know, because, well, that's a good thing. It's health and human services. It's a service agency.
Well, if they only knew. Wow. Anybody else got, got anything that they wanna talk about for a minute? Just come on in.
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Nobody?
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Okay. I sup I I suppose I can do some, like, poetry on the fly, I guess.
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There's someone. Comment on JD Vance?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I heard you talking about JD Vance. And, I don't know if you realize, but Peter Thiel basically created that guy. It's highly questionable where the guy came from. He's changed his name a couple of times. And, apparently, he, was literally created by produced by that Peter Thiel who is an older, older homosexual Jew. Okay? And there are some people that have speculated that Vance is actually in the same position as Lyndon Johnson at this point in our history because, if something happened to, our president, Vance would become the president. And I don't know if anybody recalls long ago enough, Vance was a never Trumper. He absolutely despised him and wanted nothing to do with him. And then he got manipulated into the position of being vice president, and Peter Thiel is is not he's with that was it?
Pala, whatever you're I forget the name of it.
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Palantir. Is this Thomas?
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Yes. Yes. It is. Yeah. Apparently, that's an absolutely evil organization. I mean Yeah. It looks like it. And and people even said that when Vance showed up out in California, it kind of given a a high level position. Nobody else there could explain why the heck he was there because he had no ability to do the job. Some people said he was barely there, and yet he got moved through there by this guy Teal. And then all of a sudden, you know, he's now, being accepted by Trump as a candidate now. He's the vice president. If Trump gets eliminated one way or another.
Then another thing was pointed out, which is kind of interesting is apparently according to the law, if Trump goes past the middle of his, four year term, that was just a day past two years, then Vance would could actually technically move into the presidency for the remainder of almost two years. And then he still qualifies for two more terms as president, which means he could be president for ten years. I know it's kind of an evil evil kind of dark speculation, but this isn't particularly mine. I just listened in. I'm going, yeah. Wow. We can have this guy who who who this guy, Peter Thiel, is his puppet, be the president for ten years.
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Well, we we had it a little bit worse with twelve years of the Bushes. Where do you think George Bush came from? The smoke filled room back behind Ronald Reagan? And I remember when they nominated him, and I was watching in the television. And I said to myself in my naivete in those days, boy, he'll make a great vice president because he was the head of the CIA, and he knows where all the skeletons are buried. Boy, does he.
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He he knows where they're buried because he put half of them there. He buried them. Yeah.
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Yeah. Mhmm.
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So you had four years of daddy and then eight years of baby with Cheney running the show from again in your scenario behind the scenes.
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Mhmm. Well
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Well, you know, Thomas, what I could do is I know that men change because I've changed, and all of us have. And, we can hope and pray that maybe, God touches these people and moves them in the correct direction. That's all I can say. That's our best chance. I mean, otherwise, we're overthrowing the whole thing by what we do, and there's a that's a pretty slim chance of that happening. We can give them a bunch of problems for sure. We could get on a a a big platform and, get get response. So, anyway, well, so I just want to interrupt and add that to what you're saying, Thomas.
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Yeah. Well, I I of the firm belief.
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Go ahead. Go ahead. You you can't play at this this level of politics with this much at stake at this critical time without these bastards doing these things and covering every advantage to them that they can cover with their ill gotten gains because that's what they're using. Everything they've ever developed is off of this debt monetary system. It's all fraud.
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K? Yeah.
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So, anyway, unfortunately, that's where we are.
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Yeah. Well, I always I'm and I'm I'm of the opinion that we're never gonna be able to control such a large organization as The United States, all the states because this whatever. Mhmm. But we are gonna separate off, I think, to protect ourselves.
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Well, could be, see, we can't control that, but we can control ourselves. That's the one element we can control, and that's what we need to concentrate on.
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Yeah. And if you're seeing this thing now, apparently, it's gaining some legs. This Alberta break away from Canada. Oh, yeah. Apparently, it's, it's I think it's called albertaprosperity.com, and they've got the votes. And they wanna cut themselves loose from Canada because apparently, they are the golden goose. There's a whole thing behind it. I don't know if anybody's aware. They when they struck oil in the thirties, apparently, the the the Fed rents had this guy on. Okay. So I listen you you know, maybe you've heard about it. He said they applied to Ottawa, and Ottawa told them to go pound sand. So the Texans came up and helped them and showed them how to drill. And next thing you know, they they're they're like a little Saudi Arabia.
Yeah. They are. I think you said the fifth largest oil known deposit in the world or something. And each
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It's not only drilling for oil, it's tar sands.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, apparently, they they say that they'd be like they every the citizen take 5,000,000 or 6,000,000 Albertans, and they'd all be have the equivalent of an $80,000 a year income if they went independent. I don't know how it came up with that, but there's no. They're well off. They're very well off. They don't need Canada.
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And and not only that, they don't want Canada. Our our Martin Armstrong was up in Calgary. That's in Calgary's in Alberta. Edmonton and Calgary, Two big cities there, and he was in Calgary. He'd been brought up there to talk. And one of the guys told me to see that flag, the Canadian flag, he says, we don't have the maple trees only grow back east. Oh, yeah. That's not our that's not our flag. Also, British Columbia and the Yukon are full of metals. Not only gold and silver, but all the other ones too. So those two might wanna break away also. It's a very interesting proposition. We'll see how, Mark Carney handles it.
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You You know, it could be an interesting example of people, you know, through through the ballot, not through weapons, basically breaking away. They don't necessarily wanna become part of The United States either. They might just become an independent recognized equivalent of a country. I don't and they could actually set a good example for us where we could set aside some couple of states get together. Like for instance, Florida and Texas, you know, I think we could probably exist on our own,
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without Well, it's quite interesting. I'm not sure any rate. I'm not sure they could. You know? The, the way the country was founded is the states were set up so that if your state wasn't doing the right things, if they were overtaxing you or whatever the situation might be, you can go move to a state that's not doing that. And the state that gets the most population will be the one that theoretically is doing things right. It's kinda happening with Florida. Okay? But, that that that's a big part of it is you have the ability to change to another state and help them improve what they're doing that's already positive. And there's a lot of, talk about The US breaking up into different regions.
And the problem again is the the blue areas that would segregate off from the red areas, if you wanna use that nomenclature, well, hell, they couldn't survive.
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I don't believe facing reality.
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Yeah. They sure would be and let them face it. You know? But, anyway, those are the things that may be in our future, any of those things may be. We'll we'll see as we go forward. So, Thomas, what else you got for us this morning?
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Well, the one thing he did say, the guy speaking about Alberta, he said, you know, it's not we're not gonna be unfriendly with the rest of Canada. We'll trade with Canada. We just wanna be connected to Ottawa and be their golden goose. We wanna be able to be Albertans and keep our wealth. And, again, that whole concept, if it was carried down here to the states, we did do the same thing. So you you would be the equivalent of the the the the the states in the back in the days of the civil war. Of course, that was handled violently. I mean, that was completely wrong. I mean, you don't just launch an army and it gets somebody who disagrees with you, but they did. And it was horrible results. But maybe it could be prevented this time, and we could
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You do if you're trying to accomplish something else.
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Yeah.
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But if we you know, like, I I think Florida, for instance, I I know we've got gas and oil right off of our Gulf Coast. We just don't Oh, yeah. We've got agriculture. We have fishing. We have I mean, we could stand alone. We that we have the tourists coming down to drop all their money. I mean, Florida could be a country all onto itself. We might have to take our oil over to Texas and have them refine it because we don't have any refineries. But I mean, just if you look at it, we could break down and be independent. We could still deal with the rest of the states. We just wouldn't have federal government here and have to deal with them in any way, shape, or form. You know? Right.
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Well, you got some problems with potential hurricanes and the insurance there and some of the other things that are happening because of the influx of population. I'm sure you're quite aware of that. Paul, what you got, buddy?
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The Gulf States don't have fishing anymore. Not since the BP oil spill. They have poisoned the Gulf.
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Oh, they got they got fish. They'll they'll they'll harvest stuff because the fish are migratory. They'll they'll harvest the fishing stuff regardless, and that was over in off of Texas and Louisiana, not Florida. Although some of the areas of that did reach Florida long time ago. But the fishing they're talking about is commercial fishing, Paul, and that's for probably mackerel and and and some of the other migratory fish. And they come down from up around New England and come down for the summer. You know? Yeah. They have to get to fly there. Well, I I don't know. I mean, I used to do a lot of fishing off Panama City there. Loved it a lot. My whole family's fishing oriented, and it's very sad to me.
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Well, during the BP oil spill, good friend of mine, her name was, Denise. She photo documented everything that was going on with The Gulf. It it's ugly. And and it it's absolutely horrible. I mean, she's still I think there's still pic of her pictures around on the Internet, and they did everything they could to take her videos down. She did photo slide shows Yeah. And they did everything they could to censor her stuff. And I do believe that because she was walking the contaminated beaches, that's how she contracted cancer, and that's what eventually killed her.
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No. Good day.
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I mean, it's the beach. Yeah. The Gulfport, Mississippi
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Harbor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's pretty close to offshore from where that happened.
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Their boats there were boards boats moored at the harbor that were actually being held up by the ropes that tied them to the dock because the Corexit and the chemicals that they were dumping in The Gulf had eaten the rubber seals from the live shafts and the boats sunk.
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Well, wouldn't surprise me, Paul, is very ugly in the whole damn thing because BP, some freaking bean counter, didn't wanna spend a million dollars or 2 to put mud down in that well. That's why that happened. K? Mhmm. Chintzy, stinking, chintzy, bean counting bastards. Who had something to say there? Yeah.
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And another oxymoron, corrects it. Didn't correct anything. It made it worse. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, well, I promise you they're yanking bottom fish out of the gulf there and eating them. So, that's just been happening ever since, Paul. So Panama City got a little bit of that on the periphery, but not much. But that's the thing on the migratory fishes usually. And, see, here's what happened. They've decimated the fishing population too is because now they these these fish are migratory, particularly I'm talking about, king mackerel. K. And so, or maybe bluefish. They've got some of those. And, they run-in schools, of course.
And so what happens is they send up a airplane to spot the school, and then they send out a, the boat and tell them the coordinates, what speed they're moving, all that, and they can go intercept them. And then they surround them with these things called purse seine nets. Do you know what those are, Paul? No. Well, they take a boat and run it out from the big boat, and they take the top of the net, and they they take and circle the school of fish with the top of the net while they've dropped the bottom weighted at the bottom down. And so it's already cinched, and all they do is just pull that rope in and it cinches all those fish in that net.
And then they pull them all on board, and that's where you see them yanking that lead rope. And you'll see as they get thicker and thicker in the middle of the net, some of them will flip out and flip over the rope. Well, that's us.
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That's what we do.
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K? That's what we do. We flip out over the net. Right? There's an analogy for that. And and you get a and they take almost the whole freaking school. They've decimated the fishing population with that.
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Well, I I do believe that that the whole debacle, the whole BP oil spill debacle was to destroy the fishing industry down there. I think that was its primary goal.
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Okay. Well, I I think it was two some executives who didn't wanna spend a couple million dollars to put mud in the shaft, and that would would have sell solved the problem. It wouldn't have happened. Well,
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the problem with that is it's so deep, and the pressure is so high.
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Still, mud mud was not put in it. They they usually cap those things with mud, and that equalizes the pressure, and they don't blow out like that is my understanding. I'm not a oil engineer by any means. But it was ugly. You know, just just one damn thing after another. That was about the same time as Fuka Fukushima in the same time this is a frame. I don't see it. Don't get me started. Be a be a be a good fish and flip out of the net. Okay?
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I believe they could've kept that well, by pumping liquid
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nitrogen and concrete
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into that hole. The nitrogen would have frozen the hole and sealed it, and then that would have given the concrete time to set. That's
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total speculation from many years ago because we'll never know. Yep. So, Thomas, do you have anything else to add there this morning?
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No. No. Well, I I do
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just just thinking about that car accident thing.
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Car accident thing?
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No. No. You you stuck you're talking about Corexit and how they used it to to clean up the oil spill? Did you ever see that? Of course, it went away. There was a couple of guys. They were they were, you know, just old good old boy Americans, And they showed that if you have an oil spill, all you gotta do is go out and sprinkle straw over the surface of the water.
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Yeah. It was Straw has a remarkable
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Yeah. And then all you do is that you basically use some kind of machine that'll bring up the straw, which is floating on the water. So it was Yeah. The use of a of a toxic chemical like Corexit, these guys are saying you don't have to do it that way. You can use straw. And somehow they were just ignored.
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Well, that's because the subsidiary of BP that made Corexit is a lot more expensive than straw.
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Absolutely.
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So now it's ugly. It all revolves around money always. And, the bad decisions that are made because of that, they're mostly bad because it's they're motivated by greed. Samuel. Yes, sir? You got something to add to this discussion?
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Yeah. There's over 14,000 wells in the Gulfs, that aren't plugged properly. They have that potential to leak, and it's like a $40,000,000,000 venture to plug them all.
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Well Roger.
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Yes. How'd the eye exam come out?
[00:46:29] Unknown:
Oh, I have twenty fifteen vision, and I only have 15 pressure in both of my eyes. But talking about carbon, I just I just invested in a start up company doing carbon credits and plugging wells, that are leaking methane. So, anyway, I wanted to let you know that, JD Vance was funded 15,000,000 from Peter Thiel, and he also contributed 250,000 to Trump's campaign.
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Okay.
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I mean, it's not surprising to me. These guys do you do you Julie, are you not naive enough to understand that they're gonna cover every bet? They're gonna cover every position. Okay? I mean, that's just who they are. They're very, very slick. Yes, Joe. What do you got this morning for us? Good morning.
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Well, it's a bit of a side note that, words still matter, and never have I heard
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Oh, we're not hearing either, so it makes two of us. What what happened to him?
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Deal.
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And it's not I don't know. He said I've never heard, and he goes away. So British
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British British petroleum.
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Yes. BP.
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Yeah. Did you get that? I switched towers probably. Yeah. Yeah. Well, British Petroleum. So if we change it to our name from British Petroleum to BP, it kinda takes the heat off the Brits, doesn't it? Yeah. Words matter.
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Well Oh. Okay. Oh, and they they, they used Beyond Petroleum in the commercials as to give people the idea that the BP stood for Beyond Petroleum. We're so Beyond Petroleum. No. We're British. Bunch of thieves. And we know what you did.
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Yeah. I'm
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trying to find out more. The British were really the the the British were really responsible for World War one and World War two because the thing they didn't want to have happen was to see Germany and Russia ever be united.
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And they're gonna be responsible for World War three in Ukraine too if it happens. Indeed.
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Julie? Exactly. It's same thing. They blew up Nord Stream. Why? Yep. Oh, yeah.
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They didn't. We we did. We did. Victoria Nuland and that bunch did that. But There's still plenty of of,
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policy pullers out of that London area that, tell us what to do, Roger. Well, the, the,
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the the consensus is that it was MI six that pulled and planned this, Ukraine thing. So that's just what I've heard from several people that know the lay of the land. Julie.
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Oh, Julie. Yeah. Roger, I wanted to let I wanted to let you know that I, I've reached out to Kevin, again just to ask him. You're scheduled for, Wednesday at 5PM your time. I reached out to ask him if the Zoom is gonna be live or
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prerecorded, and I haven't heard back from him. And he's supposed to send us a Zoom link. Well, he wrote me an email last night that said next week would be better. So I've got a so either one's alright with me. I don't care. But but, anyway, it'll be one of the two Wednesdays at 05:00.
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It's Wednesday. I confirmed with him. It's tomorrow.
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Okay. Well, that'll be fine. K? So okay.
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I'll be I'll look forward to it. I know he changed I know he changed his mind. I know he changed his mind, but last night, he said, no. I can do six I can do Wednesday at 6PM.
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Okay. Great. Well, then that's hammered in stone, it sounds like. Wonderful. I'll wait for the link. Don't know who this guy is. What his reach is. I'm I'm I'm I'm never I'm not familiar with him or his work at all. Okay? So I don't know how big his his reach is, but let me tell you something here, Julie, that you may or may not have picked up on. The worst interview personally, because I'm a very severe self critic. I know. The worst interview
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I've ever done. Westall. It was with Sarah Westall. Westall.
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And it's by Yep. I mean, by leaps and bounds, the biggest response I've ever gotten. Paul, or Paul came from that interview. And so I never know how they're gonna turn out. I would have thought that the interview on YouTube hours on Jeff Rents would have at least brought a handful of people. Hell, we ain't even got one. So I never know, and I don't put my hopes up. Okay? Because I've had them dashed too often. So I go into it open minded to do the best job I can and see if anybody in that audience reacts or the host themselves. We'll see. I appreciate you setting it up. And I just have never heard of the guy before, but that's not not I don't go searching the web for interviews and stuff like many of you do. Get a look at my dog's dog.
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Well, just so you know, I sent you an email, Roger, for a heads up. He hasn't paid taxes
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got that. I saw that this morning. Well, he's probably Yeah. If that's if that's if that's so and they hadn't, dinged him, then he probably has fallen through the cracks would be my guess.
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Yeah. He's probably fallen through the cracks, and, b, you know, he doesn't understand that even if you haven't paid, your taxes are still advent at at you're still very advantageous to become a national so that the jurisdiction, doesn't apply to you.
[00:52:30] Unknown:
Well, it's not just taxes. A lot of people look at that. A lot of people do this for just that reason, unfortunately. And those are the ones generally that don't go learn the rest of the program. They just file paper. Thank god I got the heat off my ass. You know? Unfortunately, that's not about taxes. It's about liberty. And you use the tax mechanism because everybody's concerned with their pocketbook. And it's later after they get in it and realize, hell, there's a lot bigger than taxes. Okay? So, anyway, just a side note.
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Yeah. You'll you'll like Kevin. Kevin's very nice. He's very laid back. He's, he's definitely an outdoors type of type of guy. And then, he's got over 10,000 people just on Rumble alone for followers. So Okay. I'm I'm very, excited. I think this will go very well.
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Okay. Well, we'll cross our fingers. Don't get your hopes up, though. I'm gonna tell you right out front. Yeah. Expectations of other people. Lot of hopium. I got a lot of hopium for you tomorrow. Well, don't be don't be distraught if they don't come through because some audiences is just does not register with, and I do not know the reason why. Mine is but to do or die. Yes, Paul?
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Julie, when you find out if it's gonna be live streamed or, how it when you find out how it's gonna happen, keep me in the loop on that.
[00:53:58] Unknown:
I think he likes to do edits. I think Julie, didn't you say he likes to do edits or he said it or something?
[00:54:05] Unknown:
I just can't remember. I've never been on any of his, Rumble, live. I've always I've always been on, watched them after the fact. And he but he does do interviews himself with tons of other people who have their own rumble channels. And some of them are live where you can comment in the chat room, and some of them are, prerecorded so you can't comment in the chat room.
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Okay. His first name is Kevin.
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His last name is Hoyt. Kevin Hoyt. Is that his name?
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H yeah. H o y t.
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Right. Yeah. So if any of the audience wants to try and dig around on that, I don't think it will be live, but it might be. I just don't know. I'll be there to do it, and I'll connect with him on Zoom. And I'm sure we'll have a a pleasant and enlightening, at least on his end, conversation.
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You don't know where he's located. Roger, I sent you an interview of him so that you could get some familiarity with what he's about Okay. With Samuel.
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Alright. Once you fill us in here, so it's just same.
[00:55:10] Unknown:
Well, this is that same guy who was talking about who does the work for Amazon, and they both wanna create this this group called Your News. So he's interviewing him on that. Yes.
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I heard Harrison Smith talking about this the other day, I think. This that citizen journalists where you for doing it, they give you percentage potentially of the company or whatever. Okay. Well, great. Well, I'm looking for everybody even talking with him, Julie. So thank you for setting it up. It'll it'll go well, Roger. I think you'll really like him. Okay. Well, I don't have very many interviews that don't go well except Sarah Westall. And, hell, that may we may be best if they don't go well because those seem to get the most response.
It was a horrible Linda Louie? That that Sarah Westall interview to me was horrible. Yes. Lady Linda, where have you been? Of course, you can.
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Well, I was at my, lake house in Maine, for almost a week,
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and there was no Internet. So it was a You got some loon? Do you have some loon's up there? Do you have some loon on the lake?
[00:56:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we have, yeah, we do have loon. It's it's like Golden Pond. There's only 60 houses on the lake, and our frontage is about the size of a football field. So we have the envy we have the envy of all. But the house is built in the nineteen sixties, so it's solidly built. Yes. And all these other houses that are reorganizing their plots, it's like plot plot fizz fizz. They're all next to each other. It's like they're in Boston, and they get to look across the lake and see a true Maine house. It's a full season, but we we only use it during the month. It was my mother's legacy to her five daughters.
And you already know her story, being a widow at 22 and buying us a brownstone in Boston and then a cottage in the country in New Hampshire, and then she bought this beautiful, spread in Maine. And she, we have a legacy trust, and it's, gonna go from generation to generation. So we're very blessed.
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But then I hope we never Well, if I was in The States, Linda, if I was in The States, I'd I'd bug you to invite me to come up there, but I'm not gonna fly up from there. Oh, you wouldn't need As much as I love lens. Would be. I love lens. Lens are one of my The reason why call at night.
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The reason why I called in this day is number one, I'm very proud that Julie is connecting you with Kevin. But number two, yesterday was June 2, and it was my mother-in-law, god rest her soul, was a hundred and one years old if she lived yesterday. And we got, my husband and I, our passport applications in. And Okay. Fantastic. I saw it from Lewis. Excuse me?
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I said fantastic.
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Did you yeah. So Louis from Boston said that I could go to the Federal Building in Boston and Right. Just make an appointment, tell him I'm a national, and, well, none of that came to fruition. None of that was true for today. It might have been true for when he did it, but it wasn't true for today's passport applicant. So when I called Boston, they referred me to either the post office, which I wasn't really up for going to, but they also referred me to the Hall Memorial Library in my neighboring town that was built in nineteen o three and a very beautiful historic, library.
And so a couple weeks ago, made the appointment for yesterday. And the federal agent was Susan Phillips, and she had a beautiful office in this old beautiful library. And she had the seats ready for us, and I, said we did not bring our applications. I had an application from long ago, but I'm saving it because it has the warning box right there. Now you have to evaluate that. Oh, up on the top. Well, they all have the warning box. They have to, but go ahead, Linda.
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Yes. Yes. But mine was up close and personal, so I didn't have to go. It was right there. Linda, can I get ahold of you for just a second? There's some other noise coming through. Paul, can is this Linda?
[00:59:51] Unknown:
Or Yeah. It was somebody strange. Mic open or what? I and it was Kirby, had a had a mic open. And, I didn't even know we had a Kirby. Yeah. I was I was trying to adjust the level Kirby. The changes that I made in the connection between FCC and the broadcast and the other platforms brings up the quiet signals and brings down the loud ones. Now, unfortunately, if somebody is just unmuted and they have a little bit of noise in their room, the audio processing is gonna make that much worse. So please be conscious of whether you're muted or not Okay. And try not to unmute,
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right before you get somebody's attention to say something like that. And especially with Linda, because half the time, she's about 30 feet down. You know? But you're not gurgling today. You're not on the breathalyzer today or the snorkel. So, go ahead, Linda. Just hear this story. The nice lady in a beautiful office in the historic library, and she had your chairs set up. And you walked in and said, I don't have an application. But all of them, even the 80 twos, have they have to have the warning box in there. But the old one you have may have it at the top of the first page, which is was where it was when I went through this. Well, trust me. Got you. I had her photocopy.
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I I have her it's 11:59. It's noon. Are we gonna transfer over, Paul? Because I don't wanna be rude.
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Okay. No. We don't live in Chicago.
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Okay. Very good. I heard you say that in the beginning, but I didn't know if you were gonna take a a breath a breath. Anyway, on her two pages, there was no warning warning box anywhere to be found. So I'm so delighted the holy spirit had me secure this beautiful passport application,
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and up close and personal was the warning box. So Okay. So anyway Hold on. I'm gonna stop you. Linda, hold on. I got I got yeah, Linda. I gotta stop you. The warning box has got to be in there. K? Now I don't know where they hid it yet. I'm not debating that.
[01:02:09] Unknown:
I'm not debating that. I'm just saying the two pages she gave us, there was no warning box anywhere. Alright. What about I have the box. About
[01:02:17] Unknown:
alright. What about under the, oath where the four checkboxes are? The the fourth one is I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so. Were those there underneath your oath?
[01:02:31] Unknown:
Okay. Just so that I can be very, what's the they didn't use they didn't use to have that stuff in there. Up my passbook notebook so that I can speak with authority.
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Alright. Box used to be in the instructions.
[01:02:49] Unknown:
Well, it used to be at the top of the first page when I did it. Then they buried it in the instructions when I started teaching this. And then somewhere along the line, they changed the oath to add those four check boxes, which the fourth one is I've read and understand the warning box. That gives them the opportunity to cover their sorry slaving asses, and I'm guaranteeing you that's still there.
[01:03:18] Unknown:
Okay. Let me tell you. What it says on the fifth, it has five expressions. I declare under the penalty of perjury all of the following, and it has one, two, three, four, five. And five says I have read and understood. So There it is. It's number five says I number five says I have read and understood the warning on page four of the instructions to the application form.
[01:03:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So they're there. She may not have given them to you. Hold on. But they're there. See, they have to have them there because this is the one paperwork from any agency that falls under the heading of public information gathering requests. And when it does that, they're sending something out to the public like the application you got, and they want information back on it. And any one of the agencies that puts out any paper like that then has to go get an OMB number on it, which makes sure that it's constitutional. You you understand all that? Grateful for the education.
[01:04:25] Unknown:
I am grateful for the education that you gave us because I could speak with authority and with the same, knowledge. So Yeah. That's okay. People perish for lack of knowledge. So when I walked in there, when she did the oath, she did not say number five, that you have read and understood the warning box on page four of the instructions to the application form. She never said that in her oral because she said, our names, and she says you both declare. And she went through line item by line item, but she did not put number five, and you also read the warning box. That's my point. I mean, if I hadn't, done that declaration and all of that, if I didn't have the knowledge, and that's why I'm sharing this information with you all, If you don't have the knowledge, then you cannot be a good girl scout or boy scout and be prepared.
No. Okay?
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So You will never find it. If you don't have the background knowledge, you'll never see and find this. You'll read right over it. You won't know how it applies. You won't know what it means, and you won't know why they have to put it in there that this gal is skirting around. Now that's very interesting, Linda. I'm sorry to continue to interrupt you, but this is really pretty interesting. Go ahead.
[01:05:52] Unknown:
So when I showed her my antique, application from years ago, I showed her the warning box, and I said, you know, false statements made knowingly and willfully in passport applications, including affidavits or other documents. And I said I underscored it. And I said, see, including affidavits or other documents submitted to support this application. And she said, okay. And so then I pulled out my beautiful, affidavits, one for my husband, one for me, a certified copy of our cover letters. And I said, that being said, in the warning box, my husband and I are submitting these documents to be added to our application.
And she was flabbergasted. She she she looked at my affidavits and she said, oh my. These are so beautiful. Are you sure you wanna give this Department of State these originals? And I said, I have 10 originals. I said, they're gonna return them. Right? She said, yes. And I said, okay. So I am submitting these originals. And so, anyway, she was, she didn't ask me any questions. She just was very accommodating. She, couldn't have been more kind, more professional, more accommodating. That's the word for the day. Okay. So I just wanted to share this, experience because I've heard time and time again over my reputation with being part of this community, how people get, questioned and so on and so forth. Now I've witnessed people at the post office just standing on one side of the counter while the lady was on the other side of the counter, having them do their oaths and so on and so forth.
And when it said in the box, it said, what country, I put US Of America. And so she didn't bat an eyelash at that. So I was very cognizant of how this should be done. And tell you the truth, because the boxes were so skewed, almost like there were no boxes in the application, because she photocopied it. She photo telephoto copied it from one, application that she had in the drawer because she was anticipating that we would walk in with our application all filled out, But I didn't wanna do it that way. I wanted to go line item by line item with this gal, and it couldn't have been more pleasant because we were in a private office, my style, a building of nineteen o three before this whole nonsense came to fruition.
And, it was just a wonderful thing. So my suggestion to people is call the, passport office and ask them if there's another place other than the post office that you can go to. And then, you'll have a more private audience. You can, execute. I was like Columbo yesterday. I didn't act like I knew anything.
[01:09:07] Unknown:
But you know how Columbo is, and he asked Done. Question. But he already knows what to do. Wait. Wait. Wait. Just just one more just just one more question, please. Go ahead.
[01:09:16] Unknown:
Yes. You wanna ask me a question? Go ahead. No. That's Columbo. Go ahead.
[01:09:23] Unknown:
I was calling Columbo.
[01:09:26] Unknown:
So I I recommend that everyone do their Columbo, and don't act like they're the know it alls. And don't let them feel like they're the most important person in the room. That's that's what Jesus does. And so at the end, she so enjoyed meeting each of us. It was so pleasant, and, I can't say enough. And it was on a memorable day, the hundred and first year of my mother-in-law. God rest her soul. So I'll never forget 06/02/2025.
[01:09:59] Unknown:
And so that was my story, and I'm sticking to it. Story. Linda, let me ask you a question. Did she come out with the comment, this is the first time I've ever seen anybody do this?
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Actually, yes. And my husband, when we left, he said my he said to the girl, he goes, my wife's the smartest woman I know. It's the smartest person I know. Oh. But with my my with my Colombo routine, she's, like, spoon feeding me like I'm a third grader, and she's the teacher. But, it's so lovely to be humble in these situations, to be humble and kind. You get more bees with honey than you do vinegar. And so if anyone that's new listening on the call or anyone that's a veteran listening to this, testimony, you remember how it went with you, and now you're hearing how it went with lady Linda Louise, and it was a very pleasant, beautiful experience.
And, now when I start teaching this, I have something to go by, a platform that will encourage people. And I'll tell you the truth. My husband was nervous as all get out. Are you sure they're gonna take something? I said, Boobala, let me handle this. And so he was so proud and so happy when he left that place. Oh, this is another thing. We have World Service Authority passports. And so we've had them for several years, so that's why we needed to get this USA passport signed, sealed, and delivered. So in our U in our World Service Authority passports, they gave us the universal declaration of the UN.
And I said, oh, by the way because Jerry put down his World Service Authority passport number where it says your passport port number. And I said, oh, they I think they want a USA passport number, honey, and you never did a USA passport. So so he's going, I got my passport card here. So he's I have the passport. He has the card. So we're showing this lady our passport. She goes, wow. This is so beautiful. She goes, how did you get that? And I said, oh, it's it has something to do with the UN. And then I said, she was a, a boy scout leader. So I said, have you heard of that universal declaration of the, United Nations? She goes, no. Tell me more. And I said, oh, they submitted with the passport. So I mine is perfect condition because I have it all perfectly protected in a passport cover. And I showed it to her, and she was so enchanted by it. She's I said, would you like to make a copy of this? She goes, I would love to.
So, anyway, that's my story. Well, that's a very interesting experience.
[01:12:54] Unknown:
Linda and audience, some folks do not have that kind and and and gracious and experience with a bureaucrat. Some we've had a few that are very hostile. And, you know, we can't do this. You can't do you can't include that. Well, it says it right. You can't include it. Well, can I your next question is, can I speak with your supervisor? And so then you speak with the supervisor. And in that instance, I think it was Princess out in California, and the supervisor said they couldn't do it. So should you ever run into that situation, then your next question is, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? K? But you can show them right in the document. Now, Linda, did you actually did she ask you even though she didn't read you that box?
Did she ask you to check it when you signed the document, the number five?
[01:13:50] Unknown:
No. There was no place to check it. I'm looking at the application. There was no place to check, any kind of a a box.
[01:14:01] Unknown:
Now they used to. The last one I saw and the last one I did here about, January a year ago had that in there with a checkbox next to it. Did this one take that top message and and have a checkbox on that checkbox on that where you validated that you agree with the other five options underneath it? Was it that kind of a situation?
[01:14:25] Unknown:
No. It was it was she was the notary. It says signature person authorized to accept applications. So she did not give us the copy with her signature on it. She just gave us the copy with our signature on it. So we don't have her
[01:14:43] Unknown:
disability number or agent ID number. I don't care. I don't care about anything with her. I care about how did they tie you into agreeing with that statement. I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so. Because they don't just put that for your help.
[01:15:01] Unknown:
Right. I I don't know about this. I know the four corner rule. And our signature block was on the right side of the paper, which is the hand of God, the right side versus the left. A lot of times, these agencies have you sign on the left side, but it was on the right side and it was in a box. It wasn't even it just says, applicant's legal signature dash age 18 and older. And so we autographed in that box. There was no connection between that box and the declaration. Statements.
[01:15:37] Unknown:
Well, then they're even trying to further separate it where you doesn't or they don't bring it out where you've got to read it and check it. Okay? It's just to me Right. Shows you further evidence of hiding it. And the fact that she didn't read that to you when she read the other ones would buttress that, I would think. So, well, usually the whole passport thing part go ahead, Linda.
[01:16:02] Unknown:
Her app her application was, 12/31/2023. So I have the old VM control number, and then it says expiration date 12/2023. Okay. So even her application that she had to fill out was an expired application. So I don't even know what 2025 application looks like.
[01:16:29] Unknown:
Yep. Well, anyway, it's, sounds like you had a very pleasant experience, and I think you did very, very well. And you had a nice person you were dealing with in a nice setting and scenario, and good on you. Let me ask you. If you wouldn't have gone to the next town, how far would the drive to Boston have been?
[01:16:50] Unknown:
Oh, 80 miles, which is not a big deal in New England. It's not like the Beltway of Dallas, Texas, which is a three hour Beltway. So and going anywhere in in New England is is easy peasy. It's just that in my ignorance, I didn't realize until this experience that all the listeners have they if they have not gotten their passports yet, they can opt to not go to a post office and go to, like, a rural area where there's a federal agent. Like, she said, that's all she does at this office. She's a federal agent, and this is all she does day in and day out. Of course. It's her boss. Yeah.
So, you know, for Ellington, Connecticut, which is a small town, and Summers is a small town. All these little small towns. I mean, my they have the airport in every one of these villages, but they're ignorant people. They're not ignorant. They're just stupid because stupid means they don't know anything. Ignorant means they're not knowing the truth. Functionally
[01:17:58] Unknown:
functionally illiterate,
[01:18:00] Unknown:
I think, is a really nice way to say that. Go ahead. Okay. Functionally illiterate. Thank you. I needed to be taught that because I don't like the word s t u p I d. But anyway, when I experienced time and time again witnessing people getting their passports at the airport pass pass passport facility, it's right in the lobby. So there's no privacy. And Yeah. I like this because you have to when you do your declaration, she has she's repeating your SS number to you. She goes, it what is your SS number? And so we have to recite it, like, verbatim by memory.
So she she knows that is definitely our SS number. So if we were reciting our SS number in the lobby of a post office, that would that would allow people to hear what we're doing and would would be able to jot down our SS number. So I'm just suggesting that when you call the main branch, you ask them what other facility can you go get your passport. And then that facility would be my first choice because of the experience I have.
[01:19:11] Unknown:
There are private companies that will do it for you too. You're gonna have to pay them a little bit to do it, but you can go that route. Oh, that's fine. Thank you for mentioning that.
[01:19:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And let me tell you this. If I had gone to the post office, it would they would have charged us $35 each for the application fee, which would have been $70 total.
[01:19:32] Unknown:
Well, when did that start? I went to the
[01:19:36] Unknown:
I don't know. I didn't ask for history. I and then I said, at this facility, at this library, it was just $135 fee for the both of us.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
Oh, I didn't even know they were charging for that. Thora?
[01:19:51] Unknown:
Yes. When I was talking to Thora, she had the same experience. She went to a facility, not a a post office, facility. She went to a I don't know where she went, but it was a different facility. Maybe it was a library. I don't know. Maybe it was a town hall. I didn't ask her the particulars. But she also knew that it was only $35 for her and not $70 for both she and her husband. And she said I think she said she got her passport in 2023. I mean, don't quote me. She got it maybe a year before me because I've been listening to you since, the December 9.
Oh, are you there, Thora?
[01:20:34] Unknown:
I'm here, and you're correct.
[01:20:36] Unknown:
Thora's always there.
[01:20:38] Unknown:
Thank you for Hi,
[01:20:40] Unknown:
Thora. Hi. Was it was it a library where you went, Thora?
[01:20:44] Unknown:
No. We went to a town office. Oh. And and we knew that that would be a nice place because we we can make an appointment and have a private room and all that just like you did.
[01:20:56] Unknown:
Well, that's something I think our community needs to know about so that they can be treated with respect and dignity. Because when you walk in, they have the seats ready for you, and they're very gracious, and they're federal agents. Now the the the individual that did your work, was it exclusive passport? They didn't have any other function in that facility?
[01:21:20] Unknown:
I think that they, they did other things, but they, they were I guess that they were, like, the passport people, but I think they had other duties as well. So you had to make an appointment with, I don't know what they call them. But, you know, have to work. An authorized
[01:21:40] Unknown:
agent has to supervise your signature on a d s 11.
[01:21:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And he clearly go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. You go ahead. Sorry. I'm I'm sorry. Stated. She clearly stated that she was a federal agent. She didn't say I'm an authorized representative. She clearly said she was a federal agent, and I I told her I was grateful because I said this is precarious to have your SS number. You know? And and then when we left, she put our application in a lockbox, and she showed she says it's all locked and safe here. And I said thank you. Because she had to go answer some legal questions. So she might have been a lawyer or but the one of the workers came in and said, you know, missus Phillips, there's someone out here that has a legal question. So I didn't ask her if she was an attorney or a lawyer, but whatever the question was, only she could answer it in that library. So Well, sounds like a very pleasant to be known for.
[01:22:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That sounds like a very pleasant experience, and, glad you guys got around to it. Now, Linda, did you just order a card, or did you order a whole new passport book and card? Oh, no. No. No. We ordered the whole shebang. Our son-in-law is in South Korea,
[01:23:03] Unknown:
and, you know, we can travel all over the world and stay in military lodges and bases and stuff because of my sub husband's service with the military. So we just we I personally there's no place like home. I don't have that wanderlust to travel from here to there to Solomon Square. But my husband and I would like to go to, Ecuador. And, you know, if my wellness, continues to increase in the positive, thanks to Thora. And I will, be very, very happy to share my latest wellness
[01:23:42] Unknown:
statement. How does your son-in-law like South Korea and your daughter like South Korea? He was he was just stationed,
[01:23:49] Unknown:
this May, so he's been there for less than four weeks. So Okay. Anyway
[01:23:56] Unknown:
Well, find out down the line. For a year. My most of the people I've met that spent any time there didn't like it too much. But I if you ever get the chance to ask him after they've been there a while, let us know. Now Well,
[01:24:12] Unknown:
when we go to if if if and when we go, the South Korean Lodge is top of the line. So we've been to lodges in Newport, Rhode Island and Oh, you're talking about the military stuff. Okay.
[01:24:25] Unknown:
Okay. Cool. Well, listen. So our accommodation will be good. Go home. Well, it it's a long flight if you get to go, and hopefully, you will and experience a good experience. As for acquiring this passport, they've evidently changed some of the processes. These are new things that Linda's informing us of here and, in certain areas. But, people have the I've gotten a couple emails on this lately. People continually think there's some kind of snafu in there. There's no snafu in the passport application except them hiding this warning box that you can attach your affidavit. And as, of course, as we've talked about before, copper moonshine still, those boys out of Arkansas, advised people to lie, on their passport application and check that their parents were not citizens of The United States.
I totally disagree with that. He, doesn't understand part of the reason that's there because it's futile. And, but you answered those correctly, I'm sure, Linda. And, it's very simple application. The snafu is to know that you've got to include your affidavit in there. And should any of them object, which we have had happen, you can go over and point out the warning box, which is now included in some way, shape, or form with the oath. They changed that about Yeah. Ten or twelve years ago after we started teaching this stuff. That wasn't there before. And on the old one I've got, which is back from earlier this century, it wasn't there. And the warning box is on the top of the first page. So the they've made some changes, but just, roll with the flow. There's no big, things you can do. You just you the one thing you don't wanna do is a, not there's two, I guess. A, not include the affidavit, and, b, don't don't lie on there in any way, shape, or form. They take passport fraud very seriously. Yes, ma'am.
[01:26:38] Unknown:
Well, if I may if I may, Thora, did she go through the declaration the way the passport lady went through the declaration with my husband and I? Did she say to you number five, have you understood the warning on page one of the instructions of this application form? Did she ask you that when you did your oath?
[01:27:00] Unknown:
She did.
[01:27:02] Unknown:
Ah. Interesting.
[01:27:05] Unknown:
Yeah. So, yes, this lady did not.
[01:27:09] Unknown:
Yeah. That is interesting. Yes. This woman was very thorough.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
Well, I thought miss Phillips was very thorough, but, you know, who knows? You know? Actually, when I showed her the warning box, it looked like it was new news to her.
[01:27:26] Unknown:
She probably never read all the instructions. She probably never read all the instructions. And for the new listeners Yeah. This isn't something they want to put in there. This is something they have to put in there to get that OMB number because it makes it legitimate. They've given you they've they've put it in front of you. Now whether you read it or not, whether you understood it or not, those make no difference. They've got it in front of you, and it's in the document, so they get issued the o m b number. Now they can accept the application. That's the importance of that. And it's to my knowledge, with the with the exception of the forty four seventy three form from ATF where it asks you, are you a US citizen or national?
It's the only other piece of paperwork I've ever seen where they had to put that in there. K? So very important. That's why and don't forget, for those of you who may be new, that's how I put all this together was the passport application finally. I've been searching for that answer for fifteen years. And the reason hold on just a second, Thor, if you would. The reason teaching moment here. The reason that I had never, because I never wanted to interface with the federal government. I was scared like, everybody else is. Okay? And I had to because I had to get a passport to move to Argentina, and, by god, I was moving to Argentina.
Okay? And it's only that interaction after fifteen years. And the reason for it, I come to understand, is probably a a large reason for the failure of our community as a whole over all these years. It's these tricks that they lay down. And they take the same concept, and they put a different label on it. And that's why we teach concepts, concepts, concepts here. If you grasp the concepts, they can't fool you with a label. Okay? So that's there's there's reason for everything we do here. Nothing is just done, like, out of my sphincter muscle to the audience. It just doesn't work that way. Everything here has been thought out. K? Now, Thor, I interrupted you, sweetie. Sorry.
[01:29:42] Unknown:
No. It was yours truly, lady Linda Louise. Oh, okay. What she said, she said, I declare under the penalty of perjury all of the following. She didn't say, you know, The United States Of America. Now on that thing that I signed, it says I am a citizen or a noncitizen national of The United States. So what I autographed was that I am a citizen, but I'm a United States Of America citizen. So, Thora, when they did your, oath, did they say US citizen, or did they say citizen, or do you remember that far back?
[01:30:22] Unknown:
I don't remember.
[01:30:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I can't remember specifically that. Well I wish I recorded it, and I didn't think of that.
[01:30:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, somebody might wanna do that. May wanna do that in the future. But on the passport on the passport itself, Linda, it's got both of the conditions. We've got US citizen in the background. It's got USA, USA, USA. So there's both of the conditions right there.
[01:30:53] Unknown:
Correct. Everybody's making that it was interesting. Location doesn't say US citizen. It just says citizen. And, of course, I'm United States Of America citizen. So it wasn't like I was lying, but we just said I do. You know? I mean, I didn't correct and say United States Of America. I didn't do any correcting. Well, you did. Immigration.
[01:31:15] Unknown:
You corrected with your affidavit.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Where you're corrected. My application.
[01:31:22] Unknown:
Like, even on my application where it says in country, I put US Of America. I don't know if you did that, Dora. Okay. But I I and I told her I did it, so it wasn't like I was trying to, you know, pull the wool over her eyes. She goes, oh, yeah. That's fine.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
In fact, on this on on the top of the application, it will say secretary of state of The United States Of America, I believe, if you'll look.
[01:31:50] Unknown:
Not on this application. It says US Department of State, the application for US passport. That's what it says on the top. Okay. Well, they've they've made a lot of changes,
[01:32:02] Unknown:
since I've been messing with this. So and I've said and, you know, the other the part, that's quite a compliment when they change the application for a passport because of your teaching exposing them as slavers. I consider that to be quite a compliment.
[01:32:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. I agree. I agree.
[01:32:26] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Well, there's I knew somebody would have something to say over all that discussion, and it's Larry. Surprise. Surprise. Hey, Larry. Morning.
[01:32:36] Unknown:
Yes. Good morning.
[01:32:38] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Good morning. This is CJ.
[01:32:42] Unknown:
Oh, CJ is here. Oh. Okay. CJ, Larry, I'm gonna recognize you when Larry finishes because he was already launching off, and welcome back. Go ahead, Larry.
[01:32:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just wondering. I kinda got lost in the details. What was lady Linda having an issue? What what exactly was the issue? And, another thing I'd like to, inject is you can go to a courthouse and also, you know, apply for your passport. That's what I did in Jacksonville, Florida.
[01:33:16] Unknown:
Right. And and we've had it done out in Texas and, it was, it was our buddy Ken out there who took it over to that little one horse town in Western Texas. He took it to the courthouse, and he never saw the judge. He only saw the clerk. And the clerk handled everything for him. He signed it. They took it. Wouldn't let him have it back, and they submitted it to the passport division. So we've had that happen before. Not often, Larry, by the way. Okay? There was no issue. Right. The lady Linda's authorized agent there did exactly what she was supposed to do and and exactly what Linda and her husband wanted them to do. So she was just, giving us the experience. Okay?
[01:34:00] Unknown:
Okay. I I thought maybe I missed something at the beginning of her No. No. Of her call. She was just ecstatic about her little experience and wanted to inform And she got a card or a book?
[01:34:11] Unknown:
They have both. They both got both.
[01:34:14] Unknown:
Alright. They they both applied for both.
[01:34:18] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Now I wanna, turn my attention to CJ. CJ, you came on yesterday with an opinion. Have we spoken before a while back? CJ?
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Probably last year.
[01:34:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I've you know, I talked to a lot of people on here sometimes if I've only spoken once or twice. I've done register with me, but I was glad to see somebody that appeared to be new yesterday and putting their their opinion. So you've been listening for a while?
[01:34:54] Unknown:
Yes. I listen on and off, plus I am a member of other online, Patriot Freedom Loving groups Yes, ma'am. Where we execute these many things. Currently, I'm executing the the, the multiple projects in a plan, a spreadsheet plan provided to me by Lisa Writing that seems to have real teeth. Really?
[01:35:24] Unknown:
Okay. You're are you in California?
[01:35:29] Unknown:
I'm here and there. I bounce between Colorado and the East Coast. In fact, I'm looking for an East Coast patriot freedom loving group that meets here on the ground in the Western Maryland and West Virginia and Virginia area.
[01:35:48] Unknown:
We've got some Virginia gals, of course, and, I don't know of any groups that meet up there regularly. The only one on the East Coast I know of is down in Jacksonville, Florida. And I think it's a friend of Larry's. It's Brian has a has a group that meets regularly down there. So, anyway, well, if we, if anybody knows of groups that meet in that area, if you see Jay know, we'd appreciate it. See, this is, again, how we need to grow because we can't have things like that until we get enough people. Now if you were in Flathead, Montana, it would be a different story, although they haven't been meeting because of Gary's health. But they've got a group that over 50 people that meets every Monday out there.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
Wow. Online or in person?
[01:36:35] Unknown:
In person.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Very impressive. Yep. They're the they're the biggest, group I know of, and here's the advantage of that. Is, years ago, professor Livingston, who was one of the founders, cofounders of the League of the South, was, somebody sent me an old speech of his. And, he during the middle of the speech, it was out at Kennesaw Mountain, which is Northwest of Atlantis, the pivot point of the Battle of the South, really. But, anyway, he was given a talk out there, and he said, after the civil war, it appears the, states cannot secede, but, apparently, counties can.
Well, that really struck me, and I got the fellow that got me a speech who knew doctor Livingston to get a hold of him. And he said, oh, yeah. Yeah. We have we knew a lot more since then when he gave that speech. And and he said, here's what happened. They took after the civil war, they took one county from Virginia and made West Virginia. Did you know that, CJ?
[01:37:54] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. There there was quite a move, and it was, initially over slavery as I understand it. Could have been. I know that, here a couple of years ago when they were
[01:38:07] Unknown:
when you had a Democratic governor there in Virginia, so it was a couple of terms ago, and there was a big, gun demonstration in the state, and they all went to the State House there or to the Governor's Mansion or something, toting their toting their their firearms, their equalizers. And, that night on on, Tucker Carlson, he had a legislator from West Virginia who said, listen. To you counties from Virginia that wanna come up and join us, just get a hold of me. So evidently, that still applies. The counties could move over and join West Virginia. Well, that sets up a precedent for Flathead County, Montana.
Now I don't know how far to go or anything else, but they've got over 12 certified nationals. And if they could get the sheriff on their side, they could start having common law grand juries and all kinds of stuff. But anyway, that's just theoretically. Okay? So they're the best county in the country for that. I'd love to know that we could have that all over, but we just don't have enough people yet. So c g c j, is there anything else we can help you with? Good lord. Colorado? Man, they've Colorado's gone to the dogs. I'm I'm sorry to say. I know. Poor Colorado. Poor Colorado. Such a beaut Maryland.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
And and Maryland is worse?
[01:39:34] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yeah. But the the state of Maryland is worse and Well, I think there's one particular county that's the worst in the state of Maryland. Is it Prince Rupert Sound or something? There's one big I guarantee you, it's the it's the district that put j j Raskin in congress.
[01:39:53] Unknown:
K? Jamie Raskin. It's Prince George's.
[01:39:57] Unknown:
Prince George's. Prince George's. Okay. Well, there you go. Most liberal county in the state I've heard. So, anyway, we'll see, Jay. Well, would you like to tell us anything else? I mean, I was pleasantly surprised to hear you come in. I I like to when I find out there's somebody kinda lurking out there that we don't know, I like to reach out. So is there any do you have any questions or anything? You have been very quiet when you've been lurking. May I, Roger? Well, Homer, can you let me ask her a question first, Robbie?
[01:40:26] Unknown:
I just can't ask her a question. Absolutely.
[01:40:29] Unknown:
K. Was
[01:40:31] Unknown:
was there anything else that you wanted to ask or ask, CJ, or I'm gonna turn my attention to Robbie here, I guess.
[01:40:39] Unknown:
Not nothing to ask per se except, not nothing to ask, but just a statement about my, the whole passport thing where I finally had to get on a plane and fly across the country to get my national properly documented passport and passport card and also to obtain a world, a world passport. Some of them I will be testing. I understand that the three stars in the right corner of the passport card indicates, that you need at least three stars. I don't know what you mean about that. You are
[01:41:23] Unknown:
a I don't know. I'm not sure if that's correct or not, CJ, so I don't know where you got that information. Yeah. I'll yeah.
[01:41:31] Unknown:
I'll I'll be testing it, but from what I've I've heard from Lisa writing that the three stars means that you are at least a diplomat, which means you're not a US citizen under that jurisdiction. And then preferably, we want four or five. And some of the the people I meet with regularly, they have four and five stars in the upper right hand corner of their passport card.
[01:41:57] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. They have various stars. I don't know the meaning for that. We have a document. I think Paul's got it on the website. It doesn't relate to the stars. It relates to the numerical sequence that's there, and they give you a a numerical designation o nine. And if you look on that list, it says national, but down at the bottom, it says noncitizen national, the bottom of that little field. We've had people with 77 on there, which one 77. I don't remember if it's diplomatic courier or, whatever. But they've we've had three separate designations come out of the numerical stuff. But none of that matters.
What matters Uh-huh. According to an 1835 Supreme Court site, which we also have on the website there, What matters is what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary. The passport and the passport card are, as that decision, 200 years old almost, says those are ex parte documents. And if it comes to fact of citizenship, it depends on if the document is admissible in a court of law, it's the paperwork in the possession of the secretary, which is the higher and better evidence. That's verbatim from the court site. Okay? So if you really wanna be sure, do a privacy request like a FOIA, Not a FOIA because they don't send it to you because it's private information. So you do a privacy request and ask for what's in your file.
And if if there Right. There the affidavit will be in there. I promise you.
[01:43:41] Unknown:
K? So Yes. And and I already I I already con conducted that, and I received a response of all the copies of what's in my, like, passport file, and my affidavit is in there.
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Well, there you go.
[01:43:55] Unknown:
Yeah. So so that's very good. So the Okay. So don't stay hung up.
[01:44:00] Unknown:
Don't get hung up on the stars and the numerical thing because the that doesn't really make a difference. It can be indicative, but what really matters is when you did that request and you saw it in your file and you got a copy of that, you're golden. Yes.
[01:44:15] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I I just wanted to to to mention the stars. I I don't really care either. I just, I
[01:44:23] Unknown:
just wanted to and straighten the other people in your group. Try and straighten that out for them because people get real hung up on that, and it's not the answer. K?
[01:44:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They they they don't care about that so much either.
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Okay. Good
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deal. Right. And and then I'm doing a a US DOT number to move my Yes, ma'am. My automobile my automobile from the from the public into the private. Private. Good. And that's been quite an experience. So
[01:44:57] Unknown:
I'm glad you mentioned it's not registered.
[01:45:01] Unknown:
Right. So so it's not registered with the state per se. It's registered with the the the federal United States Department of Transportation.
[01:45:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, good girl. You're on the right track, and you're a good, attentive to detail student, and we're glad you come along and visit with us occasionally. Yes. Happy to. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you so much, CJ, for letting us get to know you a little bit better. Now we're gonna turn to miss Robbie who used to never come on the show, and just send me all these emails. And now she's gotten brave, and she comes on. Robbie, what did you have?
[01:45:39] Unknown:
Blabbermouth. Yes, Roger. I just had a couple corrections. I can tell you for a fact that it's Montgomery County, 1 of the richest counties in the country that that creep rat skin is in. I lived there for forty years and was horrified when I woke up and found out the belly of the beast that I was in, but I have made my great escape, and I thank eternal God for it. Secondly My yesterday, I listened to the replay, and, you had mentioned the girls on the, masons were rainbows. Now my father, my grandfather, my uncle were thirty second degree, and I was a Job's daughter for a brief period.
It was the most horrible, boring thing I ever did. So, thankfully, I wasn't there long, but I had the I may even still have the stinking uniform to prove it. That's how much of a hoarder I am. But, hopefully, I throw it away in my move. Thank you. Okay. Well, I'm sorry for not being totally up on my Freemason
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nomenclature. Okay.
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So Well, that's okay. Brent wasn't either. Brent was wrong also. The Malay is for the boys. And Job's daughter is for the girls. I think the rainbows I'm not sure what the mothers are. Is that that could be rainbow. I don't know.
[01:47:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, me either. So, anyway, I've I've never had anything to do with them. I thought Demolay was only for the guys. Now do you do you know hold on. You know who Demolay was, Larry? I think that adult women are morning stars or something like that. That's what I thought it was. Or eastern stars or something. Okay. You know Jacques de Molay? Okay. Thank you, Dave. Larry, do you know who Jacques de Molay was?
[01:47:36] Unknown:
No.
[01:47:38] Unknown:
He was one of the had a question for Robbie. He was he was, one of the fair haired boys, in the Freemasons. And when they pulled that surprise raid on them in Paris on Friday the thirteenth, and they cut his head off. And him and others' heads were displayed on the top of poles leading in the main road to Paris, and that's why the Dimalay name stuck. Now what was your question originally?
[01:48:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I was wondering, Robbie, what exactly is revealed to someone when they reach these upper levels Oh. In the in the, you know, in this masonry belief system, like, when you reach thirty, thirty one, 30 two, is there, like, some major secrets that are revealed to you? Yeah. They can't tell you. Well hurry? Come on.
[01:48:35] Unknown:
It's secret.
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Then you Well, I wasn't I wasn't anything high ranking, but I do listen to, a teacher that talks about it. And I believe that by the third degree,
[01:48:48] Unknown:
you do know that you are worshiping Lucifer, but I could be wrong. Hold on. Well, I'm Joe's gonna probably come on here and bore a hole in you because he's been a Mason his whole life. Joe, are you with us? Is that correct?
[01:49:02] Unknown:
I think he'd say that. Totally wrong.
[01:49:04] Unknown:
There you go. I'll be from a mate from a Freemason right from his mouth. K?
[01:49:12] Unknown:
Now Well, I'm definitely not for Freemasonry
[01:49:15] Unknown:
if you study the history of it. I'm definitely not for it. You're well, I don't think any of us are for Jacob and Freemasonry. That's what George Washington and all the founders were against. That's this, in in this, infiltration of the Masons by these Illuminati creeps, and the Scottish right from my understanding. Joe, you got anything to add on this, very complex subject?
[01:49:46] Unknown:
Well, the only thing that I'm gonna add because I'm kinda busy and I don't have time to visit Yeah. But, there's much being spoke from speculation. Okay. And speculation will get you in big trouble. I mean, well well, you know you know about the monkey climbing up the flagpole.
[01:50:17] Unknown:
God. I hope he's taking that damn pride flag down.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Well, I'm speaking of the ones that stand on the ground.
[01:50:28] Unknown:
Okay. Anyway, well, look, Joe. You're busy. Go back to work. We'll query you another day. Thank you very much. I don't know. It's big big big topic in our movement always. And, I think there's a def, a line of demarcation there between the old Freemasons and the Jacobins. They were the ones that think their main lodge in the world. Yeah. I think their main lodge in the world is in Paris. Yes, Larry?
[01:51:03] Unknown:
Do you believe, president Clinton was a thirty third degree Mason along with, Trent Lott? That's why he wasn't convicted?
[01:51:13] Unknown:
I I think Bill Clinton is a bastard Rockefeller. I don't know about Trent Lott. He used to be from Mississippi. I remember that. But I I there there is some suggestion that Bill Clinton is a bastard in Rockefeller. Yes. And that he was fathered when Hey, Robert. Hey, Roger. Well, hold hold on. Why? He was fathered when the Rockefeller was the governor of, governor of Arkansas, and, his mother was a, a a gal of the evening in Hot Springs, if you will. Okay. Now, Wahid, you always come in at the end of the show. What kind of left field question do you have for me today?
[01:52:02] Unknown:
No. This is this is relevant. Remember, you know, they say Hitler was,
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a a a rough child.
[01:52:10] Unknown:
My no. Well, they did some people do say that. I'm not sure whether I agree with it or not. Go ahead.
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That his mother that his mother, was a maid.
[01:52:21] Unknown:
Yes. I've heard that.
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K.
[01:52:26] Unknown:
Roger. So speculation. Yes. Samuel, is that you?
[01:52:31] Unknown:
Yeah. From my understanding, there was only one thirty third degree president, and, that was Truman. Herb. And I think there were four other 32 degree.
[01:52:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Because he's got pictures with him with his little vest on. It was a apron.
[01:52:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I I think also, or what was the vice president became president? The athlete, the golfer. He was 32, I believe.
[01:53:04] Unknown:
Eisenhower?
[01:53:05] Unknown:
No. Ford. He has to be Ford. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And a couple others. Could be. Alright. That's it.
[01:53:15] Unknown:
Okay. We're getting close to the end of the show. About five minutes left. Somebody got something they wanna add? Roger? Yes, sir Larry.
[01:53:26] Unknown:
Okay. So are you proposing that there's two schools of masonry and that Joe is kinda like Star Wars? He's in he's on the the, not the dark side, but the, the good side. And then you got other people that are involved in the dark side.
[01:53:43] Unknown:
I'm not proposing anything. I'm telling you what was in George Washington's private diary by his own hand. They were scared to death of the Jacobin influence in the Freemasonry, and they were not anywhere near hand in hand with them. And that was when the alleged
[01:54:02] Unknown:
guy I will make a I will make a comment on that, Roger. Okay. Please. And I think what I think what the gentleman said is quite accurate. And so far as thirty third degree versus thirty second degree masons, you are you only become a thirty third degree mason by invitation.
[01:54:32] Unknown:
Yes. There you go. And that's And that's unusual because the all the rest of them, you can only get into freemasonry by you know, to be one, ask one. You've got to volunteer into it on your initiative. Then you get up to the thirty third, and then they invite you to that level.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
You are correct.
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Okay. Thank you, Joe.
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If my understanding Did Jacob been?
[01:55:00] Unknown:
Go ahead, Wahid.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
The what what's the Jacobins, the French revolutionaries? Correct?
[01:55:09] Unknown:
They were the, they were that I was about to tell you where they came from from my research is after the Illuminati was founded, they were sending out their papers to different lodges and places around the country, the Europe. And the guy that was the horseman that had the papers on him was struck by lightning in Germany, and I think in Bavaria. Might be wrong. But, anyway, then the newspapers got ahold of them and started publishing them, and that's when they went underground. And I believe that's when they went and penetrated the the monasteries and that they hid the monasteries.
Okay? It just might read on it from what I've read, Waiheed. K? So that's what I know. Alright? So what who who else has got something to comment on here while we got a couple of minutes? I thought it was very interesting when I was to Louise? Yes, ma'am. You may. Yes. Of course.
[01:56:15] Unknown:
Thank you for bringing thank you for bringing up for CJ if she's still on. Thank you for bringing up the endorsement numbers. I showed the lady that was the federal agent at the library, my package of endorsement numbers. Because I said to her, after the four weeks and I get my, passport, I will be doing a a privacy request because I wanna know what's in my administrative file, and I wanna know what endorsement number they gave me in the back office. And so she looked at me, and she goes, that's a good idea. So there's so many things. I wish I recorded it, but, you know, when you bring up something, it stimulates my memory.
[01:57:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I guarantee you, she'd never had an applicant pin her ears back like that before.
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Especially in a Colombo app applicant. Right. Right. That she thought, well
[01:57:14] Unknown:
Well, I think you did an exemplary job, Linda, and thank you for coming on and telling us about your experience and relating it to us. Yes, sir. Samuel.
[01:57:25] Unknown:
I just wanted to say something about Truman, you know? Yeah. He was given that, honorary degree, thirty third, only one as far as I know. And he acknowledged the, state of Israel Eleven Minutes after they became a nation. Of course, you got 09:11. You got the eleven, I think stands for Boaz and Joachim, the two pillars of Freemasonry, which were supposedly the pillars of, Solomon's temple. So I don't think that's a coincidence.
[01:57:59] Unknown:
Well, I've told you before about the comment in in senator Barkley who was his, at that point, I guess, was his vice president. And they were having something to do with Israel right in this time frame Samuel's talking about. And in Berkeley's book, he said that Truman turned to him and said, Jesus Christ couldn't couldn't couldn't satisfy him two thousand years ago. What do you expect me to do? Which is a classic man. Well, he couldn't say no because they hopped on a plane, a train when he was going around the country politicking and gave him a million dollars in cash.
And that, at the last minute, is what turned around the Chicago Times headline of Dewey wins the presidency, when in actuality, Truman did. And he was very beholden to them for that million dollars in cash. They always greet these kids with cash, folks. Yes, Larry. Quick.
[01:59:03] Unknown:
Yeah. They, the towers came down exactly thirty three years after they were built. And I have another question for you too.
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We're not gonna have much time, and there's go ahead quick.
[01:59:16] Unknown:
Okay. Are executive orders for both US citizens and nationals, or are they for neither, or are they for They're for cabinet the other?
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Originally, they were for cabinet level They were for offices. They were right. George Washington was right in them, I believe. They didn't have any agencies back then. It was for cabinet offices.
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Okay? What if it's constitutional?
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Larry, I don't know. I guess if it's constitutional, it'd apply to us then, wouldn't it?
[01:59:52] Unknown:
Wouldn't it? Did you say it would or wouldn't?
[01:59:56] Unknown:
I said if it's constitutional, it would apply to us, wouldn't it? That's the document that goes on. Some some executive orders talk to us. Own question. Well, you answered your own question.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Well, a lot of times, I ask questions on behalf of others.
[02:00:14] Unknown:
I see. Well, I I look, man. I mean, I wish I knew everything. It's just like, you know, d other brother Dave Gardner. You remember you him? You ever heard of him before, Larry? Brother Dave Gardner? If you've spoken about him before, yes. Well, he was a southern comedian back when they used to have, you know, on records. And somebody in his audience asked him a question and he said, well, I don't know. And they said, well, I thought you knew everything. He says, well, I do know everything, but I don't know that. That's kinda how I feel. Okay?
So anyway, the music is playing in the background. I wish I knew everything, or maybe I don't. I'm not sure. We strive to know as much as we can and apply it in the correct way, and we do that, I think, pretty damn good around here. So in the interim, we'll see you tomorrow. Wednesday, I've got Patriot lunch. It's a beautiful summer like day, and, I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my afternoon. I suggest you do the same. We will reconvene this meeting tomorrow.
[02:01:17] Unknown:
Same time, same place. Sounds like a plan. See you then. Thank you, Raj.
[02:01:22] Unknown:
Hey buddy. Alright. Paul will click us off all the broadcast units except for his. And so, anyway, I'm not gonna hang today too much unless somebody's got something else for me today that I need to address. Do you?
[02:01:37] Unknown:
Roger.
[02:01:39] Unknown:
Well, I I would've I should've known Larry'd be there. Yes, sir?
[02:01:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I read that, since the first president, some 30,000 executive orders have been written.
[02:01:51] Unknown:
Could be. Could be. Don't know. All I know is whatever nexus they create, I can get out of it if I'm if it doesn't apply to me. That makes me feel very good and very empowered. And for those of you who followed through on this, I hope it does the same with you. So, we'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Will somebody okay. I'm gonna ask again. Does anybody else have anything for me? I may be wrong, but I believe that executive orders are administrative,
[02:02:24] Unknown:
so they would only apply administratively.
[02:02:27] Unknown:
Right. And since all laws are carried out by the administrative agencies, for the most part, they just don't apply to us. Yep. So
[02:02:37] Unknown:
have if you found this information I think maybe you could refine that a bit.
[02:02:41] Unknown:
Pardon me, Bob?
[02:02:44] Unknown:
So I think you could probably refine that a bit. It's not necessarily administrative. Even though it is, it's within the executive department only because the president is the head of the executive branch.
[02:02:55] Unknown:
Well, and most of them are agencies now. They've converted those cabinet positions to agencies. So that's through Understood.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
You you already defined that washing you already defined that Washington didn't have any agencies per se.
[02:03:10] Unknown:
Well, I don't think there were any. There weren't any until '33, I believe, like
[02:03:16] Unknown:
Exactly. So it's the executive branch. That's where they lie. That's where they apply, and there's a lot of agencies within it now. Yeah. Something to bring forward just to refine something that CJ brought forward. She was mentioning the idea that she was going to get her DOT number for her car. It's not for the car. It's for you. It's it spreads across whatever vehicle or mode of transportation you're in. It's not about the car.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
And I queried Joe with Pam the other day from Michigan that said she got something turned down. And Joe wrote back and said, that sounds like a solicitor. When you go through do you see Jay, when you go through that DOT Oh, yeah. There's a box you can check that you don't want people contacting you. Those are solicitors. Please check that box and you won't have any erroneous messages like that. For everybody else, please do the same. That was Joe's speculation on Pam's problem. So just to add that in while Hey, Roger. What's the website that you do that at? She can't find it. Rumble.comfront/joelusticle will give you all the information,
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Dave.
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Rogers? Oh, okay.
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Yes, Boris?
[02:04:32] Unknown:
Roger, it's good to have the solicitor because they remind you when you need to do your renewal. You know?
[02:04:41] Unknown:
Okay. Well, there's a lot of information. Just permit to get suspended. You know? Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't have time. We're going through the process. I don't owe any I don't haven't gone through the process. I don't know all the the ground that's entailed. So thank you, Boris. So maybe you do wanna check the solicitors. Hell, I don't know what to tell you. Go let Joe tell you. K. He knows more about it than I do. Alright? Now who else? Anybody else? Alright. I'm gonna consider that a no. And, you are wonderful wonderful people. Have a wonderful day.
And thank you, Sketch. And, we'll see the majority of you, I guess, tomorrow. So have a great day.
[02:05:28] Unknown:
My god.
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Yep. Ciao.
[02:05:31] Unknown:
Bon appetit. Oh, and he's gone already. Okay. I leave the stream up for, oh, about another twenty five minutes or so if, people wanna continue the discussion. Otherwise, I will take it down. You guys decide.
[02:05:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the first executive order, not a presidential one, was executed by Lincoln. And I think it was to keep the state of Louisiana, which was still in the union, in the union. He sort of did a little military control stuff down there, but they started with Lincoln. Interesting. As dictator, essentially.
[02:06:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Under the auspices of the control machinery that's in place now, Lincoln would have been the one to execute the first executive order under that tyranny, that tyrannical structure,
[02:06:42] Unknown:
I would guess. That we never lost.
[02:06:45] Unknown:
Was that the one under the lever code? Nope.
[02:06:51] Unknown:
I you know what? I Doesn't that order 100?
[02:06:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That comes in later. And then shortly thereafter, before number one, I think, was for to keep try to keep Louisiana in the union because it was in the union when he became president, but he saw it teetering. So he did all kinds of stuff to try to stop the South from the natural tendencies of the thinking of the people. Like, in Maryland, he arrested half the freaking state that had anything to say about it. But, you know, he also called in 75,000 troops to an executive order. And, I mean, it it was just Congress was not going to have much to say about anything.
And the Supreme Court, I mean, we talked earlier about, you know, the the state of Virginia coming into the union. Well, that wasn't constitutional either because they would have had the, they would have had to have the, the go ahead from the state of Virginia to be able to make us another state out of their territory. And, of course, Virginia didn't give him permission, but there's there's that and then he he brought Nevada in as a state early. They spent something like the first long telegraph ever was the state's, constitution.
They didn't even have a number of people in it. It was supposed to become a state, but they brought it in so they could get the votes to put, Lincoln back in office. And so, yeah, Lincoln was nothing but a communist who
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was
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just a dictator. And he took you know, people complain about how bad the constitution was. The constitution was doing okay. It did have weaknesses like there was no way to stop this guy from doing this stuff really. But that constitution had to be gotten rid of in order for them to run the scam they're running these days. So I'll leave it at that.
[02:09:32] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel. Did you just say the constitution of 1787 or the articles of confederation had to be changed. Which one had to be changed for the things to go on today?
[02:09:49] Unknown:
Well, the constitution was in place, and argues with me all the time about the the wonderful articles of Confederation. Well, they have plenty of problems. That's why they came together in order to change it, but, you know, the way I look at it, they're man made documents and they all fail and the constitution was doing a too restrictive job on what the federal government wanted, and they wanted to to neuter it, and they did. So and that's what we have today. There's just no checks and balances like there used to be.
[02:10:33] Unknown:
Someone, the constitution don't fail. We the people fail.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
But The constitution was undermined from the day it was signed, you know? I mean, it's just the way of men.
[02:10:47] Unknown:
Yeah. But people feel comfortable with making the stuff how it is, and they let it go.
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Yep.
[02:11:00] Unknown:
Is Bob still on here? The one the the Bob that said executive orders pertain only to, presidential employ pres president employees?
[02:11:16] Unknown:
That's a problem with being a citizen in The United States. You're sort of a, Washington DC subject, feudal slave. Right?
[02:11:24] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So that's how everybody is, like, an employee of the president because they're a citizen. So the executive order applies to citizens?
[02:11:37] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like the meaning of that's like the meaning of Brost's little treatise is, you know, The USA, the republic, the house that nobody lives in. Sort of what he's getting at there is well, there's there's there's no state citizens anymore. They're all occupying the House Of DC.
[02:11:57] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That sucks.
[02:12:07] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's still a choice.
[02:12:09] Unknown:
Yeah.
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And Bro says if it's a choice, it's political, and the courts are not supposed to get involved in political arguments because choice is choice.
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Good.
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That's why I think that if you could make a strong religious argument with them, they don't have any ground to stand on. Because that's clearly, in this country, still considered your choice, and nobody would really deny you of that.
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Good.
[02:12:57] Unknown:
Actually, it's called the articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, and it didn't have unlimited taxation, didn't have a standing army, didn't have supremacy clause, didn't have implied powers. They had to have unanimous agreement on doing things. And so it was sure. It wasn't perfect, but it was better for the people and the states, and that's what had to be changed. So I was wondering thank you for asking that question, Joan, and, thank you for chumming me up, Samuel.
[02:13:28] Unknown:
That's alright. I always think about you. You know, the the fact of the matter is, Murr, there would have been war between the states, individual states, if there wasn't an arbiter that could stop them from doing it. So some some extent, a stronger federal government was a good thing, but it it got taken way out of control.
[02:13:51] Unknown:
Of course. We're we're talking about greedy men that wanted to be kings themselves.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Well, you think the states weren't made up of greedy men?
[02:13:59] Unknown:
Not as much. No. Because they don't owe. They were workers. That's why they weren't even considered in much of the debate. And that's why some of the ones that were good left the debate. And what did Patrick Henry say? There'd be civil war within a hundred years. I mean, he wasn't wrong.
[02:14:19] Unknown:
Well, there's that little thing there called Elliott's Debates, which is a I think a five or six volume, seven volume, collection of the debate within the states about the con constitution. So including the articles of confederation that were in it. And But nobody wants to talk about that. When was that written? Oh, I think it was something like fifty years after it was compiled by Elliott. Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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So we have
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They're the documents from the state, just the the arguments they had about the different clauses and this and that. And, you know, I mean, there is it's it's misunderstood like everything else, I think. I I think, you know, I agree with a lot of what you say about it being greedy men, but there were greedy men in every state, and they were at odds with each other. You know? The survey and stuff like that wasn't even good enough to to decide where the boundaries really were. So, like, the Delaware line, that was one of those things that was fought over. And, I mean and they to even get in there and survey some of it, the Indians would attack them and because the Indians didn't want them on their land. They'll screw your survey. You know? You're you're putting lines down on our land. We don't give that. There was all kinds of stuff going on that we can't appreciate. You know?
Samuel.
[02:16:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of if you can, draft an argument based on religion, in order to, you know, show the state that you're choosing not to do something, that is that is valid. Because when the when the pandemic occurred, my sister who lives in Pennsylvania, she was being required by her her work because she works in a pharmacy to get the shot. And so I drafted a document for her, based on religious grounds. They can't force her to do this, and it worked.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Jim Ram did one for his wife too, and I wish we could get our hands on that. He drafted, because she was a nurse, and they were trying to eliminate her from her job if she didn't get the job, and she didn't wanna do that. So, he worked on a document for her, and he had actually had that document before COVID and just reinforced it after. A b Jim was really good at this stuff, and it'd be great to have a copy of what he put together if we could ever get a hold of it. I don't know. I'm sure his wife has it, so I know Brenda has contact with her maybe. Maybe we'll get a copy of that someday.
[02:17:52] Unknown:
Randy Lee says it's the right of visitation to be heard in the matter.
[02:17:59] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Visitation.
[02:18:03] Unknown:
You know, I wanted to say too about the, Masons and the the invitation to the thirty third degree. Well, I know of a couple of people at least that had that invitation, and the requirement was they couldn't be an atheist and they couldn't be a Christian. They had to, swear allegiance, I guess, is a good word for it, acknowledge the architect of the universe, which is Lucifer. Okay? So there you go.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
Greetings, Murrah. It's lady Linda Louise. Did you say architect of what?
[02:18:46] Unknown:
The architect of the universe. Oh, not. Another name for this is
[02:18:51] Unknown:
but Mel, but he don't he don't make nothing. How he's the architect?
[02:18:59] Unknown:
Don't ask me. It's their rules.
[02:19:03] Unknown:
That's what He's the great cop he's the great copier or forger.
[02:19:08] Unknown:
That's what the cremation say, I think. Right?
[02:19:13] Unknown:
That's their rules. Let me see. Michael Rivero, Sephardic Jew and very bright. When he learned he was, he's there was no dealing with him after he learned he had an I high IQ, I guess. His parents didn't tell him. And I guess in, community college, they tested him, and so he's been anyway, he's he was in there, and that's what they told him, and so he dropped out. But he considers himself an atheist too, which I guess he still does. Fetzer used to consider himself an atheist, but he now considers himself a Gnostic. And I learned yesterday, Sam Andrews, doesn't believe in Christ's divinity.
And, I always, you know, ask in prayer if I should call in and to please give me the words. And if my heart starts beating faster and he tells me, yes. You must call. I know there's something coming up. And that's what came out on air. So
[02:20:13] Unknown:
so That's I'm surprised it's asked.
[02:20:16] Unknown:
Be good to go for the know how high. You know?
[02:20:20] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:20:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But there's a lot of people, and they back it up with scripture, but you're taking things out of context. He also says Christ says, I am. Like, when they said they're from Abraham, what did he say? He says, I am. Right? From before Abraham. He was at creation. You know? It the the whole Bible is like a love story about him. The Old Testament, he's the prophet. In the New Testament, he's the priest. And at the end, he's the king.
[02:20:52] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel? Or Sam U L.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
No. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you can go on this lawyer's website, Thomas Rens, r e n z. I believe he has free downloadable, all sorts of exemptions, that were written for people during the COVID time where you couldn't have your job. I don't I think he's got got religious, and I've got he's got other ones. You might wanna go there and download them. You could probably, edit them and craft them to whatever situation you want or edit them so they're, more applicable to you. And I think doctor Brian Artis also has those on his website too.
[02:21:42] Unknown:
Cool. We have examples like that are great to get food for thought.
[02:21:48] Unknown:
I I think Carol Asher over there at RBN, she had been a nun, and and now she's coming up with some crazy ideas listening to Mike Adams and stuff, which also is, denying Christ divinity. And they're saying, you know, but, anyway, they're just saying, you you know, doesn't matter what religion and face it, folks. Religion just means religiously. You do something. Alright? The reason I Belief in Christ is a relationship, but, yeah, anyway, she had done some good work with that, writing about the,
[02:22:23] Unknown:
you know The Go ahead. The re the reason I mentioned Jim Ram is because for a lot of you people who have been around for for very long, Jim used to be part of Roger's show, on a pretty, you know, regular basis he would chime in. So he was also a national. So what he writes would have also come with that kind of a background in it, which I, you know, always look for the value of that in in somebody's thinking.
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I miss him. He he, stopped paying taxes back in the nineties, you know. So he was working on things in his own right too. And, kind of trust set up and his own church and, you know, which automatically his wife, I guess, falls heir to. So, but, let the woman grieve.
[02:23:34] Unknown:
Lady Linda Louise. Lady Linda Louise.
[02:23:47] Unknown:
Yes, Joan.
[02:23:50] Unknown:
Hello. Did you get a what did your passport card cost?
[02:23:56] Unknown:
What was the $30. 30 dollars.
[02:23:59] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:24:00] Unknown:
If you go to the post office and you and your your husband, it will be 35 each of you or $70 just for the paperwork to be executed. So that's why if you go to a different facility, like, I went to the library, Thor went to a town hall. Even if it's two of you applying together, it's only $35.
[02:24:25] Unknown:
Oh, 30 for one person, 35 for a married couple?
[02:24:30] Unknown:
No. If you're a married couple and you go to the post office, it's $35 each just to do the paperwork. It's $30 each for the card.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
What are you doing? Get out of here. Okay. So it's 65 it's $60 per person or $65 per person if you go? $6.06
[02:25:01] Unknown:
5. 6 5. 60 5. Yes. Per person if you go to the post office. Oh, okay. It it's it's just one $35 application fee if the couple goes to a library or a town hall or some other facility. But if you go to a post office, it's gonna cost $35 per person.
[02:25:30] Unknown:
Lady Linda.
[02:25:31] Unknown:
Yeah?
[02:25:33] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, Larry. That's hi. That's a pretty standard fee. It was the same amount here in Jacksonville, Florida. In other words, it's 30 for the card that goes to the state department and 35 to whoever's processing your application.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
Right. But you do you know the distinction between a married couple versus a single going into the post office with the application fee is?
[02:26:05] Unknown:
What is it?
[02:26:07] Unknown:
It's $35 if you go to a facility other than the post office. If you go to the post office, it will be $35 per individual for the application fee. Did you know that, Larry?
[02:26:26] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's pretty standard.
[02:26:28] Unknown:
Well right. But do you understand the distinction? If you wanna save $35, you don't go to the post office. Correct?
[02:26:40] Unknown:
Well, I went to the courthouse, and it was still $35. Well, that's It was $35 at either place.
[02:26:48] Unknown:
Well, it's at the post office for two people walking in. It's not $35 per person?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
I mean, each person's getting their own passport card, so it's gonna be $35 per person no matter where you go is my understanding here in Florida.
[02:27:08] Unknown:
Well well, according to this federal agent, he said if you come to my library where my office is, it's only gonna be $35. If you go to the post office, it's gonna be $35 for your husband and $35 for you.
[02:27:29] Unknown:
And, lady Linda, so the library, the nice, federal agent, it it would you had to pay if you had just gone in there by yourself, it would have been with that nice lady, it would have been $30 plus $30.35
[02:27:47] Unknown:
dollars. 30 5 dollars is the application fee.
[02:27:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And 30 was what was the $30 for?
[02:27:55] Unknown:
For the card. The passport card. Oh. Do You have a passport card or just the passport?
[02:28:03] Unknown:
Me? Me, I just have the passport book.
[02:28:07] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So we opted to get the card plus the book.
[02:28:16] Unknown:
Okay. But then that was another whole different price than the 30 plus 35.
[02:28:20] Unknown:
A hundred and the book is a hundred and 30.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Oh,
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per person? Correct.
[02:28:31] Unknown:
Total?
[02:28:33] Unknown:
The total was $320. 2 hundred and 60 for two books. 30 $60 for two cards. Right? So that's and then $35 for the, application fee.
[02:28:58] Unknown:
Because I call well, what do you what do you think this means? I I called the university there's a post office on the University grounds, on the University of South Carolina. And it, I called it to to say, how much does it cost to get a passport card? And they said $99.00 dollars.
[02:29:28] Unknown:
That's if you were expediting. It cost $60 extra to expedite. Did you distinguish that you're not ex expediting this, or did you want it expediting? Yeah. Yeah. I said no rush. Not expediting. Well, they they misquoted you. I I I unless it's $30 for the card and $35 is the standard fee for application process. So Okay. They're charging you $65 at that university if that's the case. In my opinion, I don't know. You have to ask specific questions to these people.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
And you're saying they should have they should charge 65 and not 90?
[02:30:12] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:30:17] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:30:22] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:30:34] Unknown:
So, Samuel, are you still there?
[02:30:42] Unknown:
Yes. Probably
[02:30:43] Unknown:
okay. So back, my original question were about you said the constitution of 1787. They the founding father the founders had to change it, but they didn't change oh, you mean you mean once it you mean after it was ratified, you mean they snuck in and changed it? I'm I'm because I know they changed the articles of Confederation. I'm just a little confused about you saying they changed that that the constitution was the constitution of 1787, and then they changed that. And that's why we have the the horrible government we have today. But
[02:31:31] Unknown:
when they saying is the articles of confederation is what they changed to to to the to be worse as in the form of the constitution.
[02:31:42] Unknown:
No. Actually, no. They were delegates to change it, to look into changing it, but that was their excuse to just overthrow it.
[02:31:53] Unknown:
Yeah. And and you know what? Froese says they did it in secrecy, and he he says they did it in secrecy to hide it from England.
[02:32:03] Unknown:
They did it to hide it from everyone that didn't want it. Lansing and Yates walked out
[02:32:09] Unknown:
because they can see what was going on. All I'm saying is there's a lot more there that we don't really quite know about what what's going on. And,
[02:32:19] Unknown:
Well, next, you're gonna tell me it was God inspired?
[02:32:26] Unknown:
Well, you say God's in everything, so,
[02:32:29] Unknown:
I guess you wouldn't agree with yourself if I said yes or no. He's in everything, then it doesn't mean that he inspired it. He allowed it.
[02:32:38] Unknown:
That's laugh of God. Yeah. That's laugh of God, see. I'm not Good boy. I'm not laughing. Now you're putting words in my mouth. No. You're not laughing at me. In my mind telling me how I'm thinking and what I'm laughing at. That doesn't work, man.
[02:32:53] Unknown:
Alright. You're laughing at me. Thanks.
[02:32:55] Unknown:
No. I'm not. I'm just I'm not I'm just saying there's there's more than one point of view about what saying there wasn't. Of course. There's many views. There's many people. The first thing I would've said to Joan is is the the corruption in the committee of style is is something I would have put pointed out to Joan. Yeah. And that's a really interesting thing because that came later. We go from yeah. We go from people to states, and now it you could debate is that is that was that a good move or a bad move? I mean, in my legal documents right now, I'm using we the people or I the person or no. No.
One of the people. That's what I'm using. It's, you know, I mean, I think a lot of it is up to the individual and whether they can still leverage their rights or not. But if you don't make a claim and you don't try, then you have no reason to complain.
[02:34:28] Unknown:
Hey. Area code 575. Is that you, Larry?
[02:34:37] Unknown:
No. That's me,
[02:34:39] Unknown:
That's me. That's me. Okay. Well, somebody's leaking in here anyway. The mic's open.
[02:34:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's open, but I got my phone muted.
[02:34:56] Unknown:
Thank you. Oh,
[02:34:58] Unknown:
okay. So Samuel? Samuel? I I I just wanna make sure I understand Samuel opinion.
[02:35:11] Unknown:
Okay. I I had my mic closed because I I was that noise is killing me. Okay. I didn't want So you
[02:35:18] Unknown:
yeah. It was sound like a air air hose was hissing like that. Okay. So, all you were saying is that the constitution of 1787 was doctored And to to make it, so that,
[02:35:39] Unknown:
the Today. The
[02:35:41] Unknown:
was doctored, and that's why we have the bad government we have today. That's what you were saying. Right?
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Well, no. It was
[02:35:51] Unknown:
it it it was a long process of being, taken apart, changed, and I sort of agree with Gross. One of the biggest flaws in the document was the offices of of the presidency was given too much power, and he Gross says the logical conclusion to unrestricted power was a guy like Lincoln. And so it takes us to all the way to the civil war before we really get the big change in the constitution. And when we go from common law into equity, that's not how I see it. Oh. There's a lot of noise out there. What is going on? People got a mute that aren't, you know, providing commentary. So
[02:36:50] Unknown:
Samuel, do you think the, constitution is is still in effect?
[02:36:56] Unknown:
In general, it's in effect to the detriment of the slaves. Yeah. Yeah. They're using it for whatever they want it when it suits them. It's not really in effect as you would expect it to be the normal guy out there thinks they actually, have access to the bill of rights when when they don't. They have civil rights, for instance. Right?
[02:37:28] Unknown:
Those were Do you think, do you think it's partially suspended?
[02:37:33] Unknown:
Well, absolutely. I pretty much think that we're in sort of a martial rule. That's why our courts and everything, like, you think they're there. I don't think they're there. They're they don't follow common law process. There's no there's there is due process, but that process is not lawful. So it's all a a sham, a a scheme to make us think we're free, that we think we have rights, and that's just an illusion.
[02:38:07] Unknown:
And now they're doing what they want and calling it common law.
[02:38:11] Unknown:
Yeah. They're changing that term too. Michael Gaddy came up with them. It's basically coming up their own definition of what common law is. It's whatever they say it is. Right?
[02:38:24] Unknown:
What what makes it lawful? What makes due process lawful in your mind?
[02:38:31] Unknown:
Well, I've I've probably said this a cup a couple of times, but I think to start with, here's a great illustration of something that I was told so many years ago that I couldn't make the connection then because I didn't have the information I have today. But I was out at a country fair, you know, in the summer, and, you know, all the different, you know, booths have their people doing their canning, and there's this and that. And there's a there was a, a blacksmith out there, and he was hammering square nails. And I, I started talking to him about ex just the nails and what he was doing and and this and that. And, he said, did you know that when people were moving into the West, so say around the gold rush time, 1849 ish forward, he said people in Chicago would burn their house to the ground to get the nails because they were so valuable and put them in the wagon with them so they could rebuild out in the West.
And then he said, Chicago passed an ordinance not to stop them from burning down their house because they couldn't. Right? Because that was the autonomy of the person at the time. What they did is they offered them the money of the value of the nails so they wouldn't burn down their house. So they got it in cash instead. That's the authority the individual used to have before all the statutes, codes, and regulations and statutory pleading instead of common law pleading. That's the difference. Because you burnt down your house and you didn't harm anybody else and that was your will to do that, to collect the nails or whatever else you wanna do, your neighbor probably helped you do it. You know?
And it was no big deal because that's the kind of authority and autonomy you had as an individual in this country once upon a time. Try to do that today.
[02:40:57] Unknown:
Why why did whoever say you cannot burn your house down?
[02:41:04] Unknown:
Well, like I said, try it today and see what happens. You know? I mean, you'd have every agency in the world crawling up your wazoo to, fine you, attack you, etcetera, etcetera. Now, of course, if you're gonna burn down your neighbor's house while you're doing it, now you got a problem. Right? But that would have been covered in the common law. You can't do any harm to your your neighbor's property or person, and that would have been the end of it. Right? In fact, I mean, I can imagine a setting in Chicago where, you know, you tell your neighbors you're gonna be burning down your house, so help me control make sure anything doesn't get out of control because I'm just heading heading west here, and I need those nails.
[02:42:02] Unknown:
You know, it's funny here. They're, I wondered why there were so many, like, ramshackle places, you know, even when they move out or whatever or on people's property. And, apparently, the tax code, if you take down a building that's coming down, then you your property taxes go up because that's an improvement. This is where right? So people just let everything fall down on its own rather than, you know, so
[02:42:31] Unknown:
An act of God.
[02:42:34] Unknown:
There you go. Entropy.
[02:42:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:42:39] Unknown:
Nature over nurture.
[02:42:45] Unknown:
Did you watch any of those slideshows yet, Mur, of Eli's?
[02:42:51] Unknown:
No. When I went in there and and was checking, I only checked, you know, once, but, from the archive Internet and clicked on the slides, and there was nothing there. Have you ever heard the problem.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
I once saw them years ago. They were wonderful. I in fact, I I was so impressed with them. I watched them several times. Like somebody else pointed out Welch. I mean, people the old Welch language is so close to Hebrew that they can read Hebrew.
[02:43:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I said something about that yesterday. Yep. But that's not the language, whoever was asking the question was talking about. I forgot what they what they did say.
[02:43:36] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. The it's about a 50 as I remember, about a 50 slideshow and the explanations of the heraldic signs, and he compares them to the the old, tribal, you know, the the 12 tribes. He compares the the heraldry of the country, and, I mean, it's just amazing slideshow. And I guess that was verboten and, has gotten pretty buried. I hope hope we could dig it back out.
[02:44:08] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I've I've seen that on his site or I looked it up somewhere else before too. And this is the thing, you know, we'll say, oh, are they Jew? Are they part Jew or whatever? Well, that's just a term that's, you know, been tacked on and it's derogatory, but yet they cling to it as a power source or whatever. But there were 11 other tribes, including Benjamin. You know? It was just like and, apparently, Germany ended up being the real tribe of Judah. That's that's why all the fuss.
[02:44:42] Unknown:
I mean, Israeli the the the whole country of Israel is pretty much atheistic. I mean, it
[02:44:49] Unknown:
Yeah. It it believe in this thing.
[02:44:51] Unknown:
Israel isn't a land. It's a total fraud. Israel is a people.
[02:45:01] Unknown:
Either believe in Christ or you don't, and they sure as hell don't. There you go. That's it. That's the dividing line.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
That's why I said something. Hello.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Hello. Hello.
[02:45:12] Unknown:
Hello. Uh-oh. I hear our Erby.
[02:45:15] Unknown:
No. It's Jerry. Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad, New Mexico. Oh, yeah, Jerry.
[02:45:21] Unknown:
Hi. Hey. Y'all were talking about that
[02:45:25] Unknown:
passport application earlier. Is the is the 11 or the 82 or, is that a contract between us and them? A contract that we signed is a question. And would somebody look up 15 USC dash one, and explain that to me. And I'll be listening.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
Why would you think it's a contract? You're just applying to get the highest form of identification.
[02:46:10] Unknown:
Right. But you're you're swearing under penalty of perjury when you sign it.
[02:46:21] Unknown:
And I'm just asking. I'm I'm Well, what makes that unusual? What makes that so unusual? It I mean, if you get a mortgage, you gotta sign things truthfully. Look at Leticia James. She's being convicted of, mail fraud and for lying on a mortgage application and a couple of other charges.
[02:46:41] Unknown:
Because she made a contract. Right? She signed a contract.
[02:46:49] Unknown:
Yeah. But you're signing that that you are the person applying for that that identification, that you're not someone else. That doesn't necessarily make it a contract,
[02:47:00] Unknown:
at least in my mind. Okay. That's why I was asking. I look up, 15 USC one.
[02:47:12] Unknown:
Does that have to do with the passport,
[02:47:14] Unknown:
Jerry? It has to it has to deal with contracts.
[02:47:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
And if we're signing stuff under penalty of perjury, we're saying you're right. We're saying that that's us, truly us. But then when they send us that passport, they put it in all our name in all capital name or capital letters. So can you say
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Did you say 15 USC paragraph one?
[02:47:51] Unknown:
Or just 15 USC one. Yeah.
[02:47:56] Unknown:
Once you read it.
[02:48:00] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. 15 USC code one, trust, etcetera, in restraint of trade, illegal penalty. Every contract combination in the form of trust or otherwise or conspiracy in restraint of trade or commerce among the several states or with foreign nations is declared to be illegal. That's just the first paragraph.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
So now say that say that in your own words without reading it. Just say what that says to you, please, Gary.
[02:48:58] Unknown:
Well, let me finish the second paragraph. Every person who shall make any contract or engage in any combination of conspiracy hereby declared to be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony and not on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100,000,000.
[02:49:24] Unknown:
If a corporation
[02:49:26] Unknown:
or if any other person, $1,000,000 or by imprisonment not exceeding ten years. Okay. So in my own my own thinking, my in my opinion, we're signing these contracts under under fraudulent pretenses believing that we're gonna get what we're asking for, and I'm referring to the passport application. Because when I signed my passport and got my passport book and my card, my name was in all capital letters. Well, that's the person that's not me. So they fraudulently under unbeknownst to me in my own thinking, fraudulently sent me somebody that Patty that's not me. Truly.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
May I?
[02:50:33] Unknown:
Come on. Let me yeah. So
[02:50:37] Unknown:
this is Matt, and anytime I'm dealing with the government, they can everything they do, the driver's license, the passports, because they are a corporation, corporations can only contract with other corporations or corporate entities. So what you have to do is just sign it as the authorized representative. Sign your passport book, authorized representative. That's what I did with my driver's license. Debt and you control that all capital letter entity. That is an entity. You control it. You have control over it. You use it like it's your own personal slave, but you don't take on its liabilities. And the other paperwork you have, like your, your your explanatory statements, that's all good. That doesn't change any of that. It's just that you when you're taking that driver's license or that passport card or that passport booklet, you're the authorized representative. That's what you it's like it's like it's like you're an actor. You're playing that role. You're you're you're acting as, you know, for that, and you and you write up a power of attorney.
You get a notarized power of attorney that you can have to pull out anytime. It'll have date of when you did it. You know? You have power of attorney over that. That separates you from that. You wouldn't need a power of attorney over that all capital letter name if you were that all capital letter name. So that's the way I do it. So I know Roger doesn't get into the all cap, doesn't understand it or get it or whatever. But to me, that's how you separate yourself. So with that, I yield.
[02:52:17] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:52:26] Unknown:
So, Matt, would you say signing a, passport signing a passport application is now you're in contract, some kind of contract?
[02:52:39] Unknown:
Exactly.
[02:52:42] Unknown:
That's what Matt says agrees to?
[02:52:44] Unknown:
No. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all.
[02:52:48] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:52:49] Unknown:
I I I'm not saying and when you're applying for something, you're applying you're applying for a passport so you can travel. But you can if you have power of attorney, if they force you to put in the all caps name or apply in the all caps name, well, that's fine too. You have power of attorney. You have power to act on behalf of that entity. You that entity can't act. That entity isn't alive. It's a dead entity. That all capital letter name is a dead entity. But if you have power to act for it, if you're the authorized representative of it, then that takes care of that, and you always have that power of attorney to back up if you're ever questioned on it. They would they try to that's how they get everybody is the what's called Joinder. Get you in Joinder to take on as being that entity.
And most of the entities are created by the government themselves. So so and that's what the securities are Securities are. Over those entities. So so that's the way I do it. That's my understanding and, you know, unless somebody can prove me wrong, that's that's my 2¢.
[02:53:53] Unknown:
Jerry, that, that 15 US code, paragraph one, has to do with trusts, trade, and commerce among the several states. I think you gotta remember to keep things in context. Just like the Bible, you could make the Bible say just about anything if you pull a verse out of context, and I think the same applies to The United States code. You know, this thing is not really dealing with what you're talking about, in my opinion, like, in terms of, completing an application for a passport.
[02:54:36] Unknown:
Right.
[02:54:41] Unknown:
Okay. And I agree with that that person that said that they had only three stars. Alright. So I traveled on my with my card only. My passport card, and it has four stars on it. And, TSA, when I got up there, you need to stand behind this so we can take your picture. I said, no. No. I don't need to. Yes. You do, he said. I said, no. I don't. I'm not going to, and this is all I'm giving you, this card. He took it, and he he scanned it in the first computer, and then and then he he sat there for about two or three minutes, did it again, did it again, and then he called this other TSA agent over, and they whispered something. I couldn't hear what it was.
And then that other TSA said, well, move over there to that other computer. And he went over there and scanned it. He gave it to me and said, go through. And the other people the other people behind me, they all stood in front of that, camera and took their pictures.
[02:56:03] Unknown:
Uh-oh.
[02:56:06] Unknown:
And I'm looking like, I wonder what that was all about. I didn't ask questions. I just went through. And then on my return and then on my return flight out of Denver I went to Denver. The same thing. Kind of the same thing happened in Denver. You know, Denver is a big, big airport, and I handed him my my card. He looked at it and just looked at it and looked at it. He didn't ask me to get behind the camera. He just looked at it and put it in the thing. He took it out and looked at it, looked at me, and he says, go on. And I'm like, hey. What's going on here? I didn't ask some questions. I went through.
But that was strange because everybody behind me got in front of that little camera that they take your picture, and then they, you know and I'm talking there was Because
[02:57:04] Unknown:
10:10
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ten thousand people.
[02:57:08] Unknown:
So how long ago was that, Jeremy?
[02:57:10] Unknown:
Just just this past weekend. Just Oh. I'm, I got back this Saturday. Last this past Saturday. Yeah. And you were saying that's because what?
[02:57:27] Unknown:
That's the story we've been wanting to hear about those cards.
[02:57:35] Unknown:
And I just barely got my card a a week before that, before I took off on that flight. You know? Yeah.
[02:57:41] Unknown:
You you should've told Roger that on the show. That's the stuff we're looking to hear.
[02:57:51] Unknown:
But, anyway, so I I got back and I asked a few of my buddies that have their passport cards cards, not books, and they have only one and two stars on theirs. And I thought, this is straight. And on the back of it, they have an an 03 and a 05, whatever that signifies. I don't know what that means. On the back. But the strange part was the ones was the asterisk or whatever you wanna call them. The one star and the two stars. Asterisk. But anyway, I yield with that.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
So so, Jerry, when you went through this, this story you just told, you you told the first story where they took a bunch of time to go through a bunch of computers to find the didn't know. Was that the first time? Was that first and then the second time, which was faster? Was that the second time? Did you tell them in order?
[02:58:57] Unknown:
Right. The first time the first time I gave him my card, and he scanned it and told me to get behind that camera, and I told him no. I'm not going to. Everybody in front of me was getting behind that camera, taking their picture. And when I got up there, I I gave him my card. He said, get behind the camera. I said, no. You're not taking my picture. I told him like that. No. You're not taking my picture. He looked at my card. He put it in the thing. Nothing. He put it in the thing again, and he called that TSA over and says, some reason this you know, whatever whatever they talked about.
And then he told me to move over to the other the other line or the other thing computer thing. He said, get take a picture. I said, no. You know? I'm not taking my picture. And then he put that thing in, and then he gave he took it out and gave it back to me, and then he moved back over to that other line, to that other computer. And I thought, okay. You didn't make you made me take my picture, and and I got through. And then coming back from Denver
[03:00:10] Unknown:
yes, sir.
[03:00:13] Unknown:
Go ahead. Finish your story, and I got a callback.
[03:00:16] Unknown:
Can you Well, no. Can you take from that?
[03:00:20] Unknown:
Jerry, can you take from that that everything is voluntary? You didn't voluntarily comply with them taking your pictures so they couldn't?
[03:00:31] Unknown:
Yes. I I I could take that from there. But everybody behind me, after they saw what I did, they went ahead and got behind that camera and took their picture.
[03:00:43] Unknown:
Stupid people.
[03:00:44] Unknown:
So, yeah, it tells me that they were just
[03:00:50] Unknown:
could you tell me the story that you're getting back from Denver and what?
[03:00:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, when I when I, went to the airport in Denver, I handed that TSA my card. He he told me to get behind that camera, and I I told him no. You know? He looked at my card, looked at it, put it in the computer, took it out, and looked at it again, looked at me, and said, go through. And I thought,
[03:01:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a comment for this.
[03:01:21] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:01:22] Unknown:
Yeah. So there's this fella on, YouTube, and he used the the, still what's that? I'm forgetting the name already. The, that site that, stills something stills.
[03:01:41] Unknown:
Copper something. Copper moonshine. Okay.
[03:01:44] Unknown:
Like, yeah. It I had a blank out. But, copper moonshine process, and he has a, a really good friend. I think it might have been a family member, And, he was a sheriff in a town and is able to run the passports. And one of the one of the experiments they wanted to try was if there's a do not detain, designation, you know, in the system on a state citizen or national's passport, and they claim there is. They offered a, $100 fee, like, for you for them to run your passport and, and to make sure it has that do not detain designation on the passport.
And a couple of people wrote in the comment sections that they paid it and, come to find out they had that, you know, DND on it. So there could be some truth behind what you're saying, Jerry. He saw something in the system regarding your passport. What exactly it was, we don't know because you didn't question him.
[03:02:59] Unknown:
Right.
[03:03:05] Unknown:
And another thing is probably the same thing that those, officers saw regarding Lisa's passport in California when they set up a one of these, checkpoints with the paddy wagons, and they were detaining drivers. And they let her go, but she never questioned the officers any further as far as what they saw in the system. Didn't she say we need to do is we need to Didn't she to have a student that ask some questions when this happens.
[03:03:37] Unknown:
Didn't she say that they said something about DND and they thought it was for do not detain, but they didn't know?
[03:03:46] Unknown:
I think Roger just assumes that, because I think Lisa said she doesn't really know what they saw, but the officer said something along the lines, I've never seen this before. And I think that's why Roger, assumes it was DND, and, also, Lisa seems to agree with that.
[03:04:06] Unknown:
What I find encouraging about it is Jerry said no, and instead of arguing with him or calling up some muscle, they looked at his passport further. You know? I think that's his card. I think that's, that's enlightening.
[03:04:26] Unknown:
Well, also, they let him through the first his first experience district. They let him through the they let him through without taking his picture because he said no. No to them taking his picture.
[03:04:39] Unknown:
Well and they moved me to the and they moved me to the other line the first time. They moved me into another computer line before they let me pass.
[03:04:49] Unknown:
So, Jerry, both times, the re both, departure and return, they did the same thing. They they let you go right through.
[03:04:57] Unknown:
Right.
[03:04:58] Unknown:
Without taking the picture. That's that's unusual because that just doesn't happen.
[03:05:03] Unknown:
You know, it
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happened to me.
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And like I say, everybody behind me took the pictures that I you know, when I was watching behind me.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. They didn't wanna have to stick up for themselves. Just go with the flow.
[03:05:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Maybe.
[03:05:29] Unknown:
Put your line that's longer. I'm I was just curious. So were they about the same moving about the same?
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Moving? No.
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The the, lines that you stood in, was there any difference in how they moved and how fast or not?
[03:05:46] Unknown:
Yeah. After me, it it took forever for those other people behind me to get through. You know? And and both in Denver and El Paso. I flew out of El Paso into Denver and flew back out of Denver back into El Paso.
[03:06:10] Unknown:
And there was there was a lot of people in Denver. So I fly out every year, round trip with my family to go visit my mom, Pennsylvania. And, they have two lines. They have the regular line where you see about a hundred, a 50 people, waiting to get processed by TSA, and then they have a second line for special situations, including but not limited to, like, handicapped people, or whatever other reasons. And we always get to go through that line because I have children with special needs, and, we we just go right through that thing. I mean, we still gotta show our ID, but there are two lines. And if they sent Jerry to that other line, that's because he was under the designation of a special situation.
[03:07:12] Unknown:
That make sense?
[03:07:14] Unknown:
Yeah. It'd be interesting to know. It really would be interesting to know what comes up on their computer.
[03:07:23] Unknown:
And, well, I'm gonna try my passport this year. This is the first year I've had it. And
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Thank you for calling When I go to the line, I'm gonna I'm gonna present it. Information calls are completely confidential. However, your call may be monitored and recorded.
[03:07:39] Unknown:
Confidential.
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In a few words, tell me how I can assist you.
[03:07:43] Unknown:
I tried to get on, Kroger feedback to get my loyalty points, and it wouldn't let me correct what I was putting in. And it told me to call you. Somebody's unmuted.
[03:08:00] Unknown:
If she tells us her Kroger number, we can get some free groceries.
[03:08:04] Unknown:
Alright. Nice. I I love some Krogers. Anyway, that's all I have. Thank you.
[03:08:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna try this experiment this year. I'm gonna present my passport. And if I see anything unusual go on, I'm going to be asking some questions, so we'll see what happens.
[03:08:31] Unknown:
What month are you going?
[03:08:35] Unknown:
July every year.
[03:08:38] Unknown:
Oh, goody.
[03:08:44] Unknown:
I, went ahead and looked up the Elliott's debates information, and that was, first published in 1886. I think a lot of people have that belief that the the constitute constitutional convention was the final say. No. It had it. It had to go out to all 13 states. Rhode Island didn't even show up for the convention, but the other states, all they needed at least nine to agree with the new constitution in order for it to be ratified. It took about a whole another year of debates within the states to get them to agree, and that's how we got the bill of rights. I mean, that was one of their concerns that there was a change. So there was changes made during the debate process and bad things too. Like, the Southern states didn't wanna lose their property called slaves, and that's one of the reason that that gets put in the constitution and it's allowed is because they wouldn't have ratified.
If they couldn't keep what they considered their property, something they paid for, as callous as that sounds, that's, you know, people wanna condemn the constitution.
[03:10:11] Unknown:
I think you're ignoring the Northern states and there's slavery.
[03:10:15] Unknown:
No. The primary amount of it was in the South, and they weren't gonna ratify because of it. That's in the debates too.
[03:10:23] Unknown:
Jews Jews in the South had played. Thank you, Joan.
[03:10:30] Unknown:
Hey. Can you guys hear me?
[03:10:35] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[03:10:36] Unknown:
Oh, hey. Hey, guys. I was just looking into that TSA thing. I googled it. If you can refuse your picture being taken at TSA, and it said, yes. You can refuse to have your photo taken at the TSA checkpoint. The process is voluntary. And the TSA requires officers to respect your traveler's rights to opt out and then simply tell the agent you do not wanna have your photo taken and then they have to verify your ID by studying your ID and looking at your face. So what could have happened is they moved him to another line because he was clogging up the first line by refusing to have his picture taken. So they just moved him over, studied his ID, and let him go. That's just a theory.
But it's interesting that it's voluntary.
[03:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. TSA said that it's voluntary that came from TSA?
[03:11:29] Unknown:
TSA? No. I googled it. I Googled it, and it said it's voluntary, but the TSA agent has to respect your wishes if you choose not to. But the interesting thing is there that it does prove that that most everything is voluntary.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
So I wonder what else is in that traveler's bill of rights.
[03:11:49] Unknown:
But why would they move them over to the other line? Why didn't the, agent just say, okay. Go on right through. He's right there.
[03:11:57] Unknown:
Well, I think probably because they're they're used to everybody complying. And so when somebody doesn't, then they have to stop the line, get them out of the line, go ahead and, like, reverify, make sure his ID is legit, look at his face so so they can keep people moving through the first line. That's just some speculation.
[03:12:19] Unknown:
Well, that is true to some extent. They do rush you through that line. I mean, they want you to have your your ID out ready to go, and they kinda get a little bit frustrated when, you know, you don't have all your ducks in a row, especially if you have drink bottles you didn't throw away.
[03:12:36] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I mean but it would be interesting to find out more about how to see if the passport card does say do not detain that. I would pay a hundred bucks for that. I don't know if there's any place in Colorado that would do that.
[03:12:53] Unknown:
But anyway Who
[03:12:59] Unknown:
who who would you pay the hundred bucks to to find that out?
[03:13:04] Unknown:
Probably the agency that ran the card and looked it up for you.
[03:13:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Larry just told a story about some place that he knows that'll do it in Florida, I guess.
[03:13:17] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[03:13:19] Unknown:
The only reason I can think of that they would wanna photograph everybody that got on the plane is in the event of a crash so they could identify the bodies. However, it's unlikely to assume that a living, breathing photograph would even remotely resemble the mush of biomatter that they might scrape off the side of the plane, so why bother?
[03:13:45] Unknown:
No. They have hungry databanks. Yes. That's a new currency, data.
[03:13:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I think they're taking your, your eyes, like, the shape of your eyes, you know, because each person is different. Your telemetrics is called?
[03:14:05] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. They're definitely taking biometrics for, facial recognition.
[03:14:11] Unknown:
I think it's called irrediology.
[03:14:13] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Biometrics.
[03:14:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know if they iridology, that takes a much closer examination for a scan of the eye to be able to figure that out. Right. Probably, the image data, like the full face biometric data would be. Right. Right. Yeah. Make more sense. Mean, they get a close-up they get a close-up shot of your eye and they analyze it, and they got every single every single hue, every single vessel, and every single shape, and they use that in iridology,
[03:15:02] Unknown:
which I think is an amazing assumption. The edge of the iris around the pupil, the way it opens and closes, it tells you so much about person's health and everything.
[03:15:12] Unknown:
Absolutely. I would love to learn more about that. The only thing is I don't have time. I'm just saying. Anyway, I was gonna take the stream down, like, forty five minutes ago.
[03:15:31] Unknown:
I was happy. Well, we've got all this on record now. You can you can, present it to, Roger.
[03:15:38] Unknown:
Hey. If, Jack's still listening, so let me just say this before you take it down. So the site is, night take take what this guy says with a grain of salt because he obviously didn't follow Rogers' process. He followed Copper Moonshine, and he is into all of these, like, methods, if you wanna use that word, to discharge debt and all kinds of stuff, buy cars and get credit and different things like that. But as far as this checking if your passport has a do not detain designation on it. I think that's pretty legit. But his name is t a q u a n e, space, x, Taquane x. And if you'll go on YouTube and type that name in and then do not detain, he has a video on it, and you could read about it there.
He may have done some other videos. I haven't listened to him for quite a while, and I think that video came out over a year ago. So I don't know if he's still offering that service, but maybe that's something for someone to look into if they're willing to pay a hundred bucks. And I think he gives you a printout. He actually gives you a printout, and he shows a picture in the video of somebody. May it might have been his own where it shows do not detain, but they for the hundred dollars, he has his friend sheriff, uncle sheriff, or whatever run the passport, and they give you a printout of what it says on the inside of the system, on the backside of the system about your passport card.
[03:17:20] Unknown:
Okay. Interesting. I'll look up Duquain X on YouTube. Not sure if I'll send him a hundred bucks, though, but it's It's,
[03:17:29] Unknown:
I'm putting it in both chats, the, conference call and the numeral two radio ranch dot
[03:17:38] Unknown:
It's been serval
[03:17:40] Unknown:
And I'm not as a disclaimer, I'm not endorsing anything except that might be something to look into if it's legit. If if you know, because he does have a sheriff looking at this stuff and, you know, law enforcement's pretty legit. So
[03:17:56] Unknown:
How long have they been photographing people at airports? New to me.
[03:18:04] Unknown:
At least a year.
[03:18:06] Unknown:
Oh, really? Breathe and not to fly. Anyways, it I looked up being photographed More more than a year, ma'am. Generally, legally in this country, you can refuse a photograph anywhere.
[03:18:21] Unknown:
We know what Steven Whitener has said that he'll be traveling and just to get funding for whatever he's doing. He says gigs, so I don't know if it's music or anyway, it'll say it requires a photograph right then and there, and he'll have to pull over and stop and take a photograph and send it in. I guess that's a security.
[03:18:47] Unknown:
The only, the only problem with that is if you're in a public place, if you're in a public venue, there is no reasonable, expectation of privacy. So if somebody wants to take your picture out on the street, they can do it. You can't stop them because you're in the public. You don't want your picture taken in public than scarf, dark glasses, hat, cane, and walk with a limp.
[03:19:38] Unknown:
I don't think you can refuse your passport photo.
[03:19:42] Unknown:
No. And I think that has all the biometric data they need for your face. I yield. Exactly.
[03:19:50] Unknown:
How does a lamp Paul, how does a lamp help with the scars and the glass sunglasses?
[03:19:56] Unknown:
It just further obscures your, your identity, your, your body weight composition, your stature, height, weight, all that stuff.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:20:15] Unknown:
Your laptop and your smartphone is always taking photos at you.
[03:20:24] Unknown:
Well,
[03:20:26] Unknown:
I am looking at three cameras Oh, where you're coming at? Monitor
[03:20:30] Unknown:
and one camera and a display on a laptop that I'm sitting in front of. So I hope they got my good side.
[03:20:42] Unknown:
But if you tape up that camera, I guess they can still take it right through the screen, can't they, if they want to, bad enough?
[03:20:52] Unknown:
There are, like, particularly with smart TVs, there are ways to reverse the polarity on some of the pixels and actually take a picture of everything in front of the TV.
[03:21:07] Unknown:
I don't have one of them, so that's good.
[03:21:10] Unknown:
Welcome to 1984 Oceana, the super mega totalitarian super state.
[03:21:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy listening to my, and talking to my my, thermostat on my wall in my home. I have a thermostat who answers by the name Alexa, and that thermostat will play me music, answer questions, all kinds of stuff.
[03:21:43] Unknown:
Try to make it sing sometime. They don't like to sing.
[03:21:47] Unknown:
Yeah. And before you too.
[03:21:51] Unknown:
I would never have any kind of crap like that in my house.
[03:21:55] Unknown:
Make you feel like a congress critter with your ATAC minder.
[03:21:58] Unknown:
Samuel, that's a companion. You need a companion.
[03:22:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. In front of the a companion.
[03:22:06] Unknown:
In front of the spreading oak chestnut tree, I betrayed you, and you betrayed me.
[03:22:15] Unknown:
Alexa, sing happy birthday.
[03:22:22] Unknown:
Anyone know where that line came from?
[03:22:27] Unknown:
Alexa, cancel. You suck at singing.
[03:22:32] Unknown:
We don't.
[03:22:33] Unknown:
Alexa, cancel.
[03:22:36] Unknown:
Damn it. Sounds like I don't know where that line was from.
[03:22:40] Unknown:
Tell us. I have an idea, but I'm not sure. You tell us. It was in 1984. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. You know, I didn't go to schools that required you to read this garbage. Thank god.
[03:22:54] Unknown:
I didn't either, but it was told, you know, it was recommended back and forth grade, and then I finally made a chance to read it.
[03:23:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like Jessie Sabota, our, Aquino and Brennan, came to their house when she was a child, and they called it a reading club. And they were reading To Kill a Mockingbird, so she couldn't wait till she got older to read that book. So it's like I don't know what they were deriving out of it. It's just an excuse. But, yeah. Anytime they have it in the curriculum, guess what? It's predictive programming.
[03:23:37] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. Well, now that we've got, the business of the day, the show, the after show, and all that stuff taken care of, it's, time to put this guy to bed. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you so much for joining us. You can find us right here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer on Global Voice. You usually catch a little bit of the after show. Our website is thematrixdocs.com where you can find links to join us via free conference call and join us live on the show. You can find links to Eurofolk and Global Voice. You can find downloadables, exhibits. You can find, interviews, all kinds of valuable information on that website.
Thank you so much for joining us. We will catch you right back here tomorrow for the Wednesday edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye now.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Hatch
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Changing the world. Changing the world just a little bit is what we're about here at the Radio Ranch. You don't have to be dramatic. All you have to do is a little. And we continually try that on a six day a week basis, if you work all the time Saturdays for you. On this, June, Roger Sales at the Radio Ranch. Welcome. I think today we got more work for Paul than we had yesterday. We're gonna find out just a second here. Mister Beaner, if you would please step forward, get in the spotlight, and let's, identify these folks that help us. We wanna thank them and identify them both.
[00:02:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Actually, WDRN Productions is not with us today. Oh. They're still dealing with, this, that, and the other thing. We are, however, on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the pond. We're on our flagship station, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to, pastor Eli James. Absolutely a treat to have him on the program yesterday. And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk, Global Voice, and a free conference call to join us live on the show or on our website, thematrixdocs.com. The matrix docs Com. Gotcha. Wasn't that, wasn't that awesome yesterday?
[00:03:07] Unknown:
Well, it was a a big surprise for sure. And, of course, Eli Eli and I have known each other. We've never met. We've known each other for many years now. And, our paths cross again here. And, I because without Skype being set up, I can't I don't know. I didn't even know his email address, so we always communicate through Skype. So, I heard him on Paul English's show here a couple of weeks ago, and it's nice for you to invite him over. I because he came in on Skype, and I kept seeing the video show up. And I didn't know he was coming. I was going, who is that guy? Where how does he get on there? So, anyway, it's great to have Eli yesterday. He's an old friend and, right in the right square in the, between the lines here with the what we are. He's never emphasized it enough, and that goes to part of the situation with our message here. If you don't really generally dig into this, you don't see the depth of it.
You can see on the top, yes, this, that, and the other, but you don't you can't see, and it takes a while to get your arms around the fact that this is all of it right here. All the power they've had, everything they've ever built off this funny money system, all of it built on the back of slaves, this is the big kahuna right here. But it like I said, people don't really delve into it and spend some time with it, then they probably will not realize that. That's a shortcoming. I don't know how to correct except to, say as I do to everybody, and I think it's totally true, that your the degree of your freedom here is directly, directly coordination with the proportionately with how well you know the information.
Mhmm. The command of the information because only when you have that can you defend your position. If you don't have that and and one of these goons comes up to you, you don't know what to say, and he's probably gonna trap you. You're not gonna believe you, and you haven't made very much headwind on being free. And the other criteria here is to teach it to others. Now that becomes critically important because if you want to really learn the the material, teach it. I mean, that's just simple. You know? If you wanna learn something, you start teaching it to others, and you'll figure out pretty quick where the holes are that you don't have command of. Go back, fill them, and teach it again. Yeah. And if you really wanna learn the material, that's the fastest best way to do it. Because you don't have to learn. When I say learn the material, I don't mean every jot and every tittle, you know.
The you don't have to be able to tell them how the, the self help remedies changed the, just civil, the common law of Rome, over to the just Jensen, the law of the foreigner. Yeah. You don't have to know all that, but you do have to have a command of it so you can defend yourself and, as I said, explain it to others. Now, Paul, you wanted to say something there?
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Look. Yeah. It's learning the information is important, so you're in a position to be able to defend yourself and defend your position. But more importantly than that, you don't really, you don't really become as empowered and bulletproof as the peace of mind that knowing that information gives you. It's part of the empowerment process.
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And I totally agree with you. Okay.
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Get yourself out of that slave mentality, out of that I've gotta ask permission for everything mentality.
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Right. Right. And the most people have that coming into this. Most people do. And, Paul is absolutely correct. This goes back to a I'm gonna paraphrase this. Judge Learned Hand, one of our great appellate level judges. He was he was so good, they never would put him on the Supreme Court. In one of his, decisions, I'm gonna paraphrase again. He says to to to defend one's rights, one needs to be a belligerent claimant. Now it's much more eloquent from the good judge. That's his real name, by the way, Learned Hand.
And, mister Hand, you're absolutely correct. You shorten it down to defend one's rights. One must be a belligerent claimant. Now belligerency does not mean necessarily having a mini baseball bat in your back pocket where you can beat the holy crap out of some bureaucrat. As much as you'd want to, that doesn't mean that. It does mean just getting in their face and saying, no. You're wrong. I'm right, and this is why. Or you don't have the ability to tell me what I am because then you're an open tyrant, just like, this magistrate judge down in Irondale, Alabama, unfortunately.
And there's a few of them out there, and, that's the battle we fight is education. It's not a and the thing that I really just gives me a lot of discomfort mentally is when I get the sense that somebody just wants to file a piece of paper and go on about their life. Because when you do that, nothing changes. Right. It's it's not good for anybody. K? Really. So, anyway, that's going on. That's what we're here for. I was titillated yesterday a bit. Paul, with, a new a new, a, a new person that's been lurking out there. It was a female, and her name was her name was CJ. I guess her initials are CJ.
And I've we haven't spoken to her to my knowledge before, and so it was a pleasure to hear her comment and then not recognizing her voice, pinning her ears back a little bit. It's like, exactly who are you? You know? Because we wanna know. Curious minds want to know. So CJ, if you feel comfortable with it, we'd love to have you step forward again, find out a little bit more about you, how you've been how long you've been lurking and where you live and in the area, that sort of thing. So if you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't do it. But if you do, we'd love to get to know you better. We'd like to know the audience here. As you heard, a lot of people interacted yesterday. We had a lot of people yesterday that, were commenting on, the information that the good pastor, Eli was bringing us.
So that's happening. We're getting closer and closer to World War three, out of Ukraine or hell out of Gaza. Who knows, maybe. Either one, and our our our Iran. Iran. But, the Ukraine position is just it's just so sickening. And then what Julie brought us yesterday, I've heard a lot more on since that was this Palantir contract that's been signed and who these people are and how long they've been messing around and who they really are and kinda what's in the background. It looks like what they're doing, and that is disturbing. And, I I just hope it's another one of these deals where Trump didn't get the wool pullover to us.
It's been confirmed evidently that he did not know about a, the assassination attempt on, Putin, and he didn't even know about the, the Pearl Harbor day in Russia. Was that Sunday that they pulled that off? I think it must have been. Of course, Russia being a cath a Russian Orthodox church country, they would be, in church and on a Sunday routine, so that'd be a good day for these monsters to do that. They probably been planning this for a long time. You did you get the skinny on that, Paul?
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No. No. I didn't. But I did look up the dictionary definition of belligerent. Yes. And the definition is hostile face. And aggressive Yep. And engaged in a war or conflict.
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Oh, are we?
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Uh-huh. Yeah. That's that's pretty much it.
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Okay. Well, that's pretty much true. Like I said, you don't have to carry a baseball bat around with you, but, that's the type of belligerence seed that the word kinda connotates that. But it doesn't mean that. It means, like, I'm gonna get in your face, and I'm gonna show you right here and here and here where you're wrong. And I'm gonna tell you that you don't have the ability to tell me what I am or you're an open tyrant. And open tyrants get hung, in case you didn't know that.
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Well, that is also the definition through, Oxford
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or Oxford language. Oxford dictionary? Oxford Yeah. College? Well, that's the finest dictionary in the world.
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Yeah. But I'm, Although they've been Okay. I I think the Merriam Webster definition would be better.
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Okay. We'll read us that.
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Inclined to or exhibiting assertiveness, hostility, or nativeness. There you go. That that would be more because I very young. I would I looked at the Oxford dictionary, and the English people are just so damn polite. You know? It They're persnickety.
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They're very persnickety.
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Yeah. But they but they would they would, they would perceive assertiveness as being combative. They would Yeah. They would see belligerence as as, like, this horrible thing Yeah. When Uh-huh. Americans would see it as just being able to exhibit assertiveness and Mhmm. Standing up for your rights and, well, essentially, waging a war of words.
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Well I know. And it's funny that the opposite of that is the the British army is considered the biggest bullies in the world. So that's interesting, juxtaposition there. So, anyway, you said you didn't know what happened in Ukraine. Must be it it kinda is up your alley, Paul, because they did this with 18 wheelers. Oh my god. What what they did was take a and build a false, of ceiling into the 18 wheelers, and they would have the drones there. And so that's how they got strikes 4,000 miles away on the other side of the country, literally. Russia's a big country. I think they got 11 time zones. And some of those attacks were on those bases and stuff that were on the Eastern side of the country.
So this has been in planning for a long time, and I don't know. We I haven't heard yet this morning, at least, on anything current. I heard that mister Putin has, reached out to bitch slap him, but, boy, I can't wait. I'm I'm telling you, they they're just unsufferable, these bastards. They're gonna have something, and they're gonna have it. Just like the example we mentioned yesterday with the Sudinlands in Poland. Same exact thing. And that's what started World War two. K? The, German invasion of Poland. And, so well, actually, I I retract that. What started World War two was the, worldwide boycott on on German goods by the Jewish community.
They're always pulling some crap. They've always got to fill and nobody you can't you you can't expose them. You can't get over the base that they've laid, to my knowledge, anywhere in the world without the information we've got. Mhmm. This information stops them. It stops their little mouth from running because they can't say anything. And it it it frees us while simultaneously, it indicts them because they can't deny it. So everything I'm gonna be a national, well, what's that say? Underneath is that, well, you've tricked me into being a slave, you bastards, and now I'm getting out of it. They can't say no because what you are is your opinion and your decision. And then right underneath that is that IRS paragraph that pretty well well, it it does a pretty damn good silences the IRS. I mean, they they give a little quiver every now and then that they've still got some lifeline going, but it pretty well silences them. K? Oh. And they can't step over the line because, again, the information is so damaging.
They really can't risk bringing this out in some kind of a forum. So, very cool. And, that's what we got, folks. If you're new, we got the ultimate, Kryptonite for Superferricide, and, we'd love to help you get free and out from under Revelation two and three nine, fake Jew slavery.
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Yep. Who was it? That Reagan was talking about. That was Gorbachev. Mister Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Down the wall? Yeah. Okay. Well, I've got a message for, mister Putin. Mister Putin, you know who's behind all of this mop a mop.
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Take them out. I I can't believe he hasn't done it more more yet. He's had a lot of resolve, shows the amount of of why I consider him such a good statesman. But at some point, he's got the problem that he's got some hawks behind him that are really, really PO'd that they haven't unleashed more on these sorry little bastards. And it's that influence that, could could could shift the tide. Samuel, was that you trying to say something?
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Yeah. It's a little sketchy just yet. I don't know how long it happened, but it looks like they did their third attempt on trying to blow up the cursed bridge as well.
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Okay. Well, it wouldn't surprise me in a bit. They are desperate to get this thing started, folks. And that shows you how tedious the financial system is underneath because that's the reason for all of it. And, well, one of the reasons they have this hate for the Russkies, the Rus', as, they were called before they were called Russia. The Rus', when they came down and totally, broke up and disintegrated the Khazar kingdom, they they've got ancient ancient hatreds here to the same extent that they've got with the, Arabs. K? And with us. Now I I saw rabbi Weiss being interviewed here on something one of you had sent me here about a week ago, and I'm familiar with rabbi Weiss. He's a mighty seems like a mighty good guy. I'd love to sit down and talk with him.
And, of course, rabbi Weiss said, well, listen. The Israelis, he's Zionist. They hate really hate two people. They they hate the Jews, the Orthodox Jews, and then they hate the Arabs. So according to him, they hate the Orthodox Jews more than they do the Arabs. Holy smoke. K? I don't know if you know when they've got the little beanie on and they're fornicating with that wall, Solomon's Temple's wall. And that's evidently what they're doing is fornicating with it. If you gotta fornicate with a wall, there's something real wrong with you. And, and the Zionist get out there and get bags of human feces, paper bags, and throw human feces at them. I do know that for a fact.
So, they're ugly, ugly people. They're really, really desperate. They're getting exposed on every front just wonderfully. I I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime, but it's happening right now. And, keep exposing them. Keep exposing them. Keep pressing our message because they've got usually some sort of pat answer for the other stuff. You know? Oh, they're terrorists. Well, they don't do anything with this. They don't even call us white supremacists even though when you file this, you are a white supremacist. You're a white nationalist too. Play right into their words.
So anyway, that's what's going on. I we can discuss this palletier thing, all that kind of stuff or, unless we got any new people. If we've got new people, that have a question or comment, you're the priority because you're why we're here. We get to do all this other stuff peripherally because you don't step forward. But when you do, we kind of put the spotlight on you because you're the most important person here. So if any of you fit that category and criteria, please step
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forward. And we don't bite.
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Well, now I'm too old to bite. I gum a little bit. I've got so many teeth problems. I could gum you a bit, but that's about all I'm gonna do. So if we've got any of you folks, please, we'd love to meet you. And if not, save it for another day. So who in the audience has got something to add here this morning?
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Roger?
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There's somebody right there. Is Sheldon is that same Samuel again? Sheldon?
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Yes, sir. I sent a text to CJ, and maybe she'll join later on it for her. She had a two hour window
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I'm done. Well, great. Okay. Well, you know her then, evidently.
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Yeah. I I met her off of, Gavin's network last year, about last summer. So I'm from California.
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Okay. Well, it I've it seems I don't know if we've spoken before or not, but if she wants to come forward and she sound like a charming lady, we'd certainly love to, enhance our our knowledge of each other. So, anyway, she does. She does. If she doesn't, it's okay. What? Do what, Paul? I I think you have spoken to her, but, but it was only like one time.
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Ago. Long time ago. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, good. Let's see what else is going on. Who else has got something they'd like to start off? You wanna talk about this Palantir stuff, Julie? Julie's the one that first brought it to us yesterday on Monday when they had ever evidently done it. It's a it's a just all over. It's nothing but CIA, and they're just using a backdoor way into trying to do what they were doing before. And, unfortunately, it appears, that mister Trump has knowingly or unknowingly has taken the bait. So hopefully, we'll see, and it'll get exposed to him like some of these other deficiencies.
And you can see, Julie, just second. You can see that they're pulling the same crap they did in the first term. They're just not informing him on stuff. K? Yeah, Julie. Couple of things I wanna yak with you about. You wanna expand on this Palantir thing?
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It's real ugly. Trump took money Trump Trump took money from him. Of course, he knows all about this. He took hundreds of millions of dollars from him.
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From the guy that runs Palantir? Because that was not I haven't heard that before. Yeah. From Peter Thiel. From Peter Thiel. He's a veteran all over the government. Yep.
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Alright. Well, it's really ugly. He also by the way, he also financed he he also financed Vance.
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He'd be financed what? Vance.
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JD Vance.
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Oh, Vance. Okay. Well, that's the game they play. They take that money and spread it around on both sides so that they get this kinda input and control. It's nothing new. I mean Okay. I gotta go and send me an eye doctor appointment. I'll call Okay. Fine. Alright. You take off. Hope your eyes are doing better than mine. It's, it's unfortunate and maybe, something will turn on this, as it has on some of the other occasions, and we'll just see. But it's, basically, for the audience that may have been distracted yesterday, didn't hear about this. This Palantir program was the guy that I I guess financed it, but I don't think he's running it. It's some other guy. And, his thing is, well, we stopped the far right movement in Europe.
You know, like the, AEFD in Germany, I believe. And, but then they do other stuff. They're like hired guns, and they you know, it's like the old question about lawyers, Paul, and you say, what do you what do you call a person who will argue either side of an issue for money? A lawyer. A horror. And so that's what this guy is, and they use it for evidently both sides of the political spectrum. But I don't know. It supposedly gathers ALC has been in some kind of operation in some of the agencies already, and what brought it to the forefront here was, SOS HHS and IRS.
That's who they're pitching it to yesterday, I think. Mhmm. And, so anyway well, the real question is, you just make sure you get my national status in that database correctly. Okay?
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Yeah. Raj? Yes, sir. That's exactly where all of this started. I think, the first place that they got a foothold was in the Department of Health and Human Services. That's the first place.
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You mean well, no. I, you mean a hundred ninety years ago?
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Yeah. Well, that's that's where they first exhibited their control.
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Well, there wasn't even a Social Security back then. I don't know about HHS, but I do know that the first agency that they used was Department of Agriculture. That's a cabinet level position. It's now an agency. But, of course, the commies are gonna take over anything to do with the land and production, And that's where they that's the platform, the plank, if you will, that they drove all of the commies in. Harry Dexter, White, Alger, Hiss, all those guys came in to government service through the Department of Agriculture. That was up almost a hundred years ago. But, there them I meant to mention that to Eli yesterday. I said, Eli, do you realize we've been in Babylonian captivity going on ninety three years now? Because I don't think he's ever had it phrased like that to him.
So, Paul, can you take the show for a minute? I've got to go, see my landlord about something real quick. They just got back. Yeah. I can do that. So just take it for a minute. I'll be back in a few minutes.
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Yeah. What I had heard, and I don't remember where I heard it from, was that, the, the health departments and the Department of Health and Human Services and all that, that was one of the first, real well, I guess the most recent early control vehicles that they've put in, and, of course, they do that, you know, under the auspices of, we have to give this agency so much authority and so much control because we have we have the health and the happiness of the the citizenry, the populace, to take care of. So they were given a broad latitude to do just about whatever they wanted to. And the people didn't complain about it, you know, because, well, that's a good thing. It's health and human services. It's a service agency.
Well, if they only knew. Wow. Anybody else got, got anything that they wanna talk about for a minute? Just come on in.
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Nobody?
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Okay. I sup I I suppose I can do some, like, poetry on the fly, I guess.
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There's someone. Comment on JD Vance?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I heard you talking about JD Vance. And, I don't know if you realize, but Peter Thiel basically created that guy. It's highly questionable where the guy came from. He's changed his name a couple of times. And, apparently, he, was literally created by produced by that Peter Thiel who is an older, older homosexual Jew. Okay? And there are some people that have speculated that Vance is actually in the same position as Lyndon Johnson at this point in our history because, if something happened to, our president, Vance would become the president. And I don't know if anybody recalls long ago enough, Vance was a never Trumper. He absolutely despised him and wanted nothing to do with him. And then he got manipulated into the position of being vice president, and Peter Thiel is is not he's with that was it?
Pala, whatever you're I forget the name of it.
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Palantir. Is this Thomas?
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Yes. Yes. It is. Yeah. Apparently, that's an absolutely evil organization. I mean Yeah. It looks like it. And and people even said that when Vance showed up out in California, it kind of given a a high level position. Nobody else there could explain why the heck he was there because he had no ability to do the job. Some people said he was barely there, and yet he got moved through there by this guy Teal. And then all of a sudden, you know, he's now, being accepted by Trump as a candidate now. He's the vice president. If Trump gets eliminated one way or another.
Then another thing was pointed out, which is kind of interesting is apparently according to the law, if Trump goes past the middle of his, four year term, that was just a day past two years, then Vance would could actually technically move into the presidency for the remainder of almost two years. And then he still qualifies for two more terms as president, which means he could be president for ten years. I know it's kind of an evil evil kind of dark speculation, but this isn't particularly mine. I just listened in. I'm going, yeah. Wow. We can have this guy who who who this guy, Peter Thiel, is his puppet, be the president for ten years.
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Well, we we had it a little bit worse with twelve years of the Bushes. Where do you think George Bush came from? The smoke filled room back behind Ronald Reagan? And I remember when they nominated him, and I was watching in the television. And I said to myself in my naivete in those days, boy, he'll make a great vice president because he was the head of the CIA, and he knows where all the skeletons are buried. Boy, does he.
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He he knows where they're buried because he put half of them there. He buried them. Yeah.
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Yeah. Mhmm.
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So you had four years of daddy and then eight years of baby with Cheney running the show from again in your scenario behind the scenes.
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Mhmm. Well
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Well, you know, Thomas, what I could do is I know that men change because I've changed, and all of us have. And, we can hope and pray that maybe, God touches these people and moves them in the correct direction. That's all I can say. That's our best chance. I mean, otherwise, we're overthrowing the whole thing by what we do, and there's a that's a pretty slim chance of that happening. We can give them a bunch of problems for sure. We could get on a a a big platform and, get get response. So, anyway, well, so I just want to interrupt and add that to what you're saying, Thomas.
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Yeah. Well, I I of the firm belief.
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Go ahead. Go ahead. You you can't play at this this level of politics with this much at stake at this critical time without these bastards doing these things and covering every advantage to them that they can cover with their ill gotten gains because that's what they're using. Everything they've ever developed is off of this debt monetary system. It's all fraud.
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K? Yeah.
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So, anyway, unfortunately, that's where we are.
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Yeah. Well, I always I'm and I'm I'm of the opinion that we're never gonna be able to control such a large organization as The United States, all the states because this whatever. Mhmm. But we are gonna separate off, I think, to protect ourselves.
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Well, could be, see, we can't control that, but we can control ourselves. That's the one element we can control, and that's what we need to concentrate on.
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Yeah. And if you're seeing this thing now, apparently, it's gaining some legs. This Alberta break away from Canada. Oh, yeah. Apparently, it's, it's I think it's called albertaprosperity.com, and they've got the votes. And they wanna cut themselves loose from Canada because apparently, they are the golden goose. There's a whole thing behind it. I don't know if anybody's aware. They when they struck oil in the thirties, apparently, the the the Fed rents had this guy on. Okay. So I listen you you know, maybe you've heard about it. He said they applied to Ottawa, and Ottawa told them to go pound sand. So the Texans came up and helped them and showed them how to drill. And next thing you know, they they're they're like a little Saudi Arabia.
Yeah. They are. I think you said the fifth largest oil known deposit in the world or something. And each
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It's not only drilling for oil, it's tar sands.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, apparently, they they say that they'd be like they every the citizen take 5,000,000 or 6,000,000 Albertans, and they'd all be have the equivalent of an $80,000 a year income if they went independent. I don't know how it came up with that, but there's no. They're well off. They're very well off. They don't need Canada.
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And and not only that, they don't want Canada. Our our Martin Armstrong was up in Calgary. That's in Calgary's in Alberta. Edmonton and Calgary, Two big cities there, and he was in Calgary. He'd been brought up there to talk. And one of the guys told me to see that flag, the Canadian flag, he says, we don't have the maple trees only grow back east. Oh, yeah. That's not our that's not our flag. Also, British Columbia and the Yukon are full of metals. Not only gold and silver, but all the other ones too. So those two might wanna break away also. It's a very interesting proposition. We'll see how, Mark Carney handles it.
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You You know, it could be an interesting example of people, you know, through through the ballot, not through weapons, basically breaking away. They don't necessarily wanna become part of The United States either. They might just become an independent recognized equivalent of a country. I don't and they could actually set a good example for us where we could set aside some couple of states get together. Like for instance, Florida and Texas, you know, I think we could probably exist on our own,
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without Well, it's quite interesting. I'm not sure any rate. I'm not sure they could. You know? The, the way the country was founded is the states were set up so that if your state wasn't doing the right things, if they were overtaxing you or whatever the situation might be, you can go move to a state that's not doing that. And the state that gets the most population will be the one that theoretically is doing things right. It's kinda happening with Florida. Okay? But, that that that's a big part of it is you have the ability to change to another state and help them improve what they're doing that's already positive. And there's a lot of, talk about The US breaking up into different regions.
And the problem again is the the blue areas that would segregate off from the red areas, if you wanna use that nomenclature, well, hell, they couldn't survive.
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I don't believe facing reality.
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Yeah. They sure would be and let them face it. You know? But, anyway, those are the things that may be in our future, any of those things may be. We'll we'll see as we go forward. So, Thomas, what else you got for us this morning?
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Well, the one thing he did say, the guy speaking about Alberta, he said, you know, it's not we're not gonna be unfriendly with the rest of Canada. We'll trade with Canada. We just wanna be connected to Ottawa and be their golden goose. We wanna be able to be Albertans and keep our wealth. And, again, that whole concept, if it was carried down here to the states, we did do the same thing. So you you would be the equivalent of the the the the the states in the back in the days of the civil war. Of course, that was handled violently. I mean, that was completely wrong. I mean, you don't just launch an army and it gets somebody who disagrees with you, but they did. And it was horrible results. But maybe it could be prevented this time, and we could
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You do if you're trying to accomplish something else.
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Yeah.
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But if we you know, like, I I think Florida, for instance, I I know we've got gas and oil right off of our Gulf Coast. We just don't Oh, yeah. We've got agriculture. We have fishing. We have I mean, we could stand alone. We that we have the tourists coming down to drop all their money. I mean, Florida could be a country all onto itself. We might have to take our oil over to Texas and have them refine it because we don't have any refineries. But I mean, just if you look at it, we could break down and be independent. We could still deal with the rest of the states. We just wouldn't have federal government here and have to deal with them in any way, shape, or form. You know? Right.
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Well, you got some problems with potential hurricanes and the insurance there and some of the other things that are happening because of the influx of population. I'm sure you're quite aware of that. Paul, what you got, buddy?
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The Gulf States don't have fishing anymore. Not since the BP oil spill. They have poisoned the Gulf.
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Oh, they got they got fish. They'll they'll they'll harvest stuff because the fish are migratory. They'll they'll harvest the fishing stuff regardless, and that was over in off of Texas and Louisiana, not Florida. Although some of the areas of that did reach Florida long time ago. But the fishing they're talking about is commercial fishing, Paul, and that's for probably mackerel and and and some of the other migratory fish. And they come down from up around New England and come down for the summer. You know? Yeah. They have to get to fly there. Well, I I don't know. I mean, I used to do a lot of fishing off Panama City there. Loved it a lot. My whole family's fishing oriented, and it's very sad to me.
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Well, during the BP oil spill, good friend of mine, her name was, Denise. She photo documented everything that was going on with The Gulf. It it's ugly. And and it it's absolutely horrible. I mean, she's still I think there's still pic of her pictures around on the Internet, and they did everything they could to take her videos down. She did photo slide shows Yeah. And they did everything they could to censor her stuff. And I do believe that because she was walking the contaminated beaches, that's how she contracted cancer, and that's what eventually killed her.
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No. Good day.
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I mean, it's the beach. Yeah. The Gulfport, Mississippi
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Harbor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's pretty close to offshore from where that happened.
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Their boats there were boards boats moored at the harbor that were actually being held up by the ropes that tied them to the dock because the Corexit and the chemicals that they were dumping in The Gulf had eaten the rubber seals from the live shafts and the boats sunk.
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Well, wouldn't surprise me, Paul, is very ugly in the whole damn thing because BP, some freaking bean counter, didn't wanna spend a million dollars or 2 to put mud down in that well. That's why that happened. K? Mhmm. Chintzy, stinking, chintzy, bean counting bastards. Who had something to say there? Yeah.
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And another oxymoron, corrects it. Didn't correct anything. It made it worse. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, well, I promise you they're yanking bottom fish out of the gulf there and eating them. So, that's just been happening ever since, Paul. So Panama City got a little bit of that on the periphery, but not much. But that's the thing on the migratory fishes usually. And, see, here's what happened. They've decimated the fishing population too is because now they these these fish are migratory, particularly I'm talking about, king mackerel. K. And so, or maybe bluefish. They've got some of those. And, they run-in schools, of course.
And so what happens is they send up a airplane to spot the school, and then they send out a, the boat and tell them the coordinates, what speed they're moving, all that, and they can go intercept them. And then they surround them with these things called purse seine nets. Do you know what those are, Paul? No. Well, they take a boat and run it out from the big boat, and they take the top of the net, and they they take and circle the school of fish with the top of the net while they've dropped the bottom weighted at the bottom down. And so it's already cinched, and all they do is just pull that rope in and it cinches all those fish in that net.
And then they pull them all on board, and that's where you see them yanking that lead rope. And you'll see as they get thicker and thicker in the middle of the net, some of them will flip out and flip over the rope. Well, that's us.
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That's what we do.
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K? That's what we do. We flip out over the net. Right? There's an analogy for that. And and you get a and they take almost the whole freaking school. They've decimated the fishing population with that.
[00:42:58] Unknown:
Well, I I do believe that that the whole debacle, the whole BP oil spill debacle was to destroy the fishing industry down there. I think that was its primary goal.
[00:43:13] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I think it was two some executives who didn't wanna spend a couple million dollars to put mud in the shaft, and that would would have sell solved the problem. It wouldn't have happened. Well,
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the problem with that is it's so deep, and the pressure is so high.
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Still, mud mud was not put in it. They they usually cap those things with mud, and that equalizes the pressure, and they don't blow out like that is my understanding. I'm not a oil engineer by any means. But it was ugly. You know, just just one damn thing after another. That was about the same time as Fuka Fukushima in the same time this is a frame. I don't see it. Don't get me started. Be a be a be a good fish and flip out of the net. Okay?
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I believe they could've kept that well, by pumping liquid
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nitrogen and concrete
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into that hole. The nitrogen would have frozen the hole and sealed it, and then that would have given the concrete time to set. That's
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total speculation from many years ago because we'll never know. Yep. So, Thomas, do you have anything else to add there this morning?
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No. No. Well, I I do
[00:44:45] Unknown:
just just thinking about that car accident thing.
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Car accident thing?
[00:44:51] Unknown:
No. No. You you stuck you're talking about Corexit and how they used it to to clean up the oil spill? Did you ever see that? Of course, it went away. There was a couple of guys. They were they were, you know, just old good old boy Americans, And they showed that if you have an oil spill, all you gotta do is go out and sprinkle straw over the surface of the water.
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Yeah. It was Straw has a remarkable
[00:45:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And then all you do is that you basically use some kind of machine that'll bring up the straw, which is floating on the water. So it was Yeah. The use of a of a toxic chemical like Corexit, these guys are saying you don't have to do it that way. You can use straw. And somehow they were just ignored.
[00:45:37] Unknown:
Well, that's because the subsidiary of BP that made Corexit is a lot more expensive than straw.
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Absolutely.
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So now it's ugly. It all revolves around money always. And, the bad decisions that are made because of that, they're mostly bad because it's they're motivated by greed. Samuel. Yes, sir? You got something to add to this discussion?
[00:46:05] Unknown:
Yeah. There's over 14,000 wells in the Gulfs, that aren't plugged properly. They have that potential to leak, and it's like a $40,000,000,000 venture to plug them all.
[00:46:22] Unknown:
Well Roger.
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Yes. How'd the eye exam come out?
[00:46:29] Unknown:
Oh, I have twenty fifteen vision, and I only have 15 pressure in both of my eyes. But talking about carbon, I just I just invested in a start up company doing carbon credits and plugging wells, that are leaking methane. So, anyway, I wanted to let you know that, JD Vance was funded 15,000,000 from Peter Thiel, and he also contributed 250,000 to Trump's campaign.
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Okay.
[00:47:00] Unknown:
I mean, it's not surprising to me. These guys do you do you Julie, are you not naive enough to understand that they're gonna cover every bet? They're gonna cover every position. Okay? I mean, that's just who they are. They're very, very slick. Yes, Joe. What do you got this morning for us? Good morning.
[00:47:30] Unknown:
Well, it's a bit of a side note that, words still matter, and never have I heard
[00:47:46] Unknown:
Oh, we're not hearing either, so it makes two of us. What what happened to him?
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Deal.
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And it's not I don't know. He said I've never heard, and he goes away. So British
[00:47:57] Unknown:
British British petroleum.
[00:48:02] Unknown:
Yes. BP.
[00:48:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Did you get that? I switched towers probably. Yeah. Yeah. Well, British Petroleum. So if we change it to our name from British Petroleum to BP, it kinda takes the heat off the Brits, doesn't it? Yeah. Words matter.
[00:48:20] Unknown:
Well Oh. Okay. Oh, and they they, they used Beyond Petroleum in the commercials as to give people the idea that the BP stood for Beyond Petroleum. We're so Beyond Petroleum. No. We're British. Bunch of thieves. And we know what you did.
[00:48:42] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm
[00:48:44] Unknown:
trying to find out more. The British were really the the the British were really responsible for World War one and World War two because the thing they didn't want to have happen was to see Germany and Russia ever be united.
[00:48:59] Unknown:
And they're gonna be responsible for World War three in Ukraine too if it happens. Indeed.
[00:49:06] Unknown:
Julie? Exactly. It's same thing. They blew up Nord Stream. Why? Yep. Oh, yeah.
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They didn't. We we did. We did. Victoria Nuland and that bunch did that. But There's still plenty of of,
[00:49:18] Unknown:
policy pullers out of that London area that, tell us what to do, Roger. Well, the, the,
[00:49:26] Unknown:
the the consensus is that it was MI six that pulled and planned this, Ukraine thing. So that's just what I've heard from several people that know the lay of the land. Julie.
[00:49:42] Unknown:
Oh, Julie. Yeah. Roger, I wanted to let I wanted to let you know that I, I've reached out to Kevin, again just to ask him. You're scheduled for, Wednesday at 5PM your time. I reached out to ask him if the Zoom is gonna be live or
[00:49:59] Unknown:
prerecorded, and I haven't heard back from him. And he's supposed to send us a Zoom link. Well, he wrote me an email last night that said next week would be better. So I've got a so either one's alright with me. I don't care. But but, anyway, it'll be one of the two Wednesdays at 05:00.
[00:50:19] Unknown:
It's Wednesday. I confirmed with him. It's tomorrow.
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Okay. Well, that'll be fine. K? So okay.
[00:50:28] Unknown:
I'll be I'll look forward to it. I know he changed I know he changed his mind. I know he changed his mind, but last night, he said, no. I can do six I can do Wednesday at 6PM.
[00:50:38] Unknown:
Okay. Great. Well, then that's hammered in stone, it sounds like. Wonderful. I'll wait for the link. Don't know who this guy is. What his reach is. I'm I'm I'm I'm never I'm not familiar with him or his work at all. Okay? So I don't know how big his his reach is, but let me tell you something here, Julie, that you may or may not have picked up on. The worst interview personally, because I'm a very severe self critic. I know. The worst interview
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I've ever done. Westall. It was with Sarah Westall. Westall.
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And it's by Yep. I mean, by leaps and bounds, the biggest response I've ever gotten. Paul, or Paul came from that interview. And so I never know how they're gonna turn out. I would have thought that the interview on YouTube hours on Jeff Rents would have at least brought a handful of people. Hell, we ain't even got one. So I never know, and I don't put my hopes up. Okay? Because I've had them dashed too often. So I go into it open minded to do the best job I can and see if anybody in that audience reacts or the host themselves. We'll see. I appreciate you setting it up. And I just have never heard of the guy before, but that's not not I don't go searching the web for interviews and stuff like many of you do. Get a look at my dog's dog.
[00:51:57] Unknown:
Well, just so you know, I sent you an email, Roger, for a heads up. He hasn't paid taxes
[00:52:04] Unknown:
got that. I saw that this morning. Well, he's probably Yeah. If that's if that's if that's so and they hadn't, dinged him, then he probably has fallen through the cracks would be my guess.
[00:52:17] Unknown:
Yeah. He's probably fallen through the cracks, and, b, you know, he doesn't understand that even if you haven't paid, your taxes are still advent at at you're still very advantageous to become a national so that the jurisdiction, doesn't apply to you.
[00:52:30] Unknown:
Well, it's not just taxes. A lot of people look at that. A lot of people do this for just that reason, unfortunately. And those are the ones generally that don't go learn the rest of the program. They just file paper. Thank god I got the heat off my ass. You know? Unfortunately, that's not about taxes. It's about liberty. And you use the tax mechanism because everybody's concerned with their pocketbook. And it's later after they get in it and realize, hell, there's a lot bigger than taxes. Okay? So, anyway, just a side note.
[00:53:04] Unknown:
Yeah. You'll you'll like Kevin. Kevin's very nice. He's very laid back. He's, he's definitely an outdoors type of type of guy. And then, he's got over 10,000 people just on Rumble alone for followers. So Okay. I'm I'm very, excited. I think this will go very well.
[00:53:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we'll cross our fingers. Don't get your hopes up, though. I'm gonna tell you right out front. Yeah. Expectations of other people. Lot of hopium. I got a lot of hopium for you tomorrow. Well, don't be don't be distraught if they don't come through because some audiences is just does not register with, and I do not know the reason why. Mine is but to do or die. Yes, Paul?
[00:53:48] Unknown:
Julie, when you find out if it's gonna be live streamed or, how it when you find out how it's gonna happen, keep me in the loop on that.
[00:53:58] Unknown:
I think he likes to do edits. I think Julie, didn't you say he likes to do edits or he said it or something?
[00:54:05] Unknown:
I just can't remember. I've never been on any of his, Rumble, live. I've always I've always been on, watched them after the fact. And he but he does do interviews himself with tons of other people who have their own rumble channels. And some of them are live where you can comment in the chat room, and some of them are, prerecorded so you can't comment in the chat room.
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Okay. His first name is Kevin.
[00:54:31] Unknown:
His last name is Hoyt. Kevin Hoyt. Is that his name?
[00:54:35] Unknown:
H yeah. H o y t.
[00:54:38] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So if any of the audience wants to try and dig around on that, I don't think it will be live, but it might be. I just don't know. I'll be there to do it, and I'll connect with him on Zoom. And I'm sure we'll have a a pleasant and enlightening, at least on his end, conversation.
[00:54:55] Unknown:
You don't know where he's located. Roger, I sent you an interview of him so that you could get some familiarity with what he's about Okay. With Samuel.
[00:55:06] Unknown:
Alright. Once you fill us in here, so it's just same.
[00:55:10] Unknown:
Well, this is that same guy who was talking about who does the work for Amazon, and they both wanna create this this group called Your News. So he's interviewing him on that. Yes.
[00:55:22] Unknown:
I heard Harrison Smith talking about this the other day, I think. This that citizen journalists where you for doing it, they give you percentage potentially of the company or whatever. Okay. Well, great. Well, I'm looking for everybody even talking with him, Julie. So thank you for setting it up. It'll it'll go well, Roger. I think you'll really like him. Okay. Well, I don't have very many interviews that don't go well except Sarah Westall. And, hell, that may we may be best if they don't go well because those seem to get the most response.
It was a horrible Linda Louie? That that Sarah Westall interview to me was horrible. Yes. Lady Linda, where have you been? Of course, you can.
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Well, I was at my, lake house in Maine, for almost a week,
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and there was no Internet. So it was a You got some loon? Do you have some loon's up there? Do you have some loon on the lake?
[00:56:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we have, yeah, we do have loon. It's it's like Golden Pond. There's only 60 houses on the lake, and our frontage is about the size of a football field. So we have the envy we have the envy of all. But the house is built in the nineteen sixties, so it's solidly built. Yes. And all these other houses that are reorganizing their plots, it's like plot plot fizz fizz. They're all next to each other. It's like they're in Boston, and they get to look across the lake and see a true Maine house. It's a full season, but we we only use it during the month. It was my mother's legacy to her five daughters.
And you already know her story, being a widow at 22 and buying us a brownstone in Boston and then a cottage in the country in New Hampshire, and then she bought this beautiful, spread in Maine. And she, we have a legacy trust, and it's, gonna go from generation to generation. So we're very blessed.
[00:57:34] Unknown:
But then I hope we never Well, if I was in The States, Linda, if I was in The States, I'd I'd bug you to invite me to come up there, but I'm not gonna fly up from there. Oh, you wouldn't need As much as I love lens. Would be. I love lens. Lens are one of my The reason why call at night.
[00:57:54] Unknown:
The reason why I called in this day is number one, I'm very proud that Julie is connecting you with Kevin. But number two, yesterday was June 2, and it was my mother-in-law, god rest her soul, was a hundred and one years old if she lived yesterday. And we got, my husband and I, our passport applications in. And Okay. Fantastic. I saw it from Lewis. Excuse me?
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I said fantastic.
[00:58:23] Unknown:
Did you yeah. So Louis from Boston said that I could go to the Federal Building in Boston and Right. Just make an appointment, tell him I'm a national, and, well, none of that came to fruition. None of that was true for today. It might have been true for when he did it, but it wasn't true for today's passport applicant. So when I called Boston, they referred me to either the post office, which I wasn't really up for going to, but they also referred me to the Hall Memorial Library in my neighboring town that was built in nineteen o three and a very beautiful historic, library.
And so a couple weeks ago, made the appointment for yesterday. And the federal agent was Susan Phillips, and she had a beautiful office in this old beautiful library. And she had the seats ready for us, and I, said we did not bring our applications. I had an application from long ago, but I'm saving it because it has the warning box right there. Now you have to evaluate that. Oh, up on the top. Well, they all have the warning box. They have to, but go ahead, Linda.
[00:59:39] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. But mine was up close and personal, so I didn't have to go. It was right there. Linda, can I get ahold of you for just a second? There's some other noise coming through. Paul, can is this Linda?
[00:59:51] Unknown:
Or Yeah. It was somebody strange. Mic open or what? I and it was Kirby, had a had a mic open. And, I didn't even know we had a Kirby. Yeah. I was I was trying to adjust the level Kirby. The changes that I made in the connection between FCC and the broadcast and the other platforms brings up the quiet signals and brings down the loud ones. Now, unfortunately, if somebody is just unmuted and they have a little bit of noise in their room, the audio processing is gonna make that much worse. So please be conscious of whether you're muted or not Okay. And try not to unmute,
[01:00:35] Unknown:
right before you get somebody's attention to say something like that. And especially with Linda, because half the time, she's about 30 feet down. You know? But you're not gurgling today. You're not on the breathalyzer today or the snorkel. So, go ahead, Linda. Just hear this story. The nice lady in a beautiful office in the historic library, and she had your chairs set up. And you walked in and said, I don't have an application. But all of them, even the 80 twos, have they have to have the warning box in there. But the old one you have may have it at the top of the first page, which is was where it was when I went through this. Well, trust me. Got you. I had her photocopy.
[01:01:19] Unknown:
I I have her it's 11:59. It's noon. Are we gonna transfer over, Paul? Because I don't wanna be rude.
[01:01:26] Unknown:
Okay. No. We don't live in Chicago.
[01:01:30] Unknown:
Okay. Very good. I heard you say that in the beginning, but I didn't know if you were gonna take a a breath a breath. Anyway, on her two pages, there was no warning warning box anywhere to be found. So I'm so delighted the holy spirit had me secure this beautiful passport application,
[01:01:50] Unknown:
and up close and personal was the warning box. So Okay. So anyway Hold on. I'm gonna stop you. Linda, hold on. I got I got yeah, Linda. I gotta stop you. The warning box has got to be in there. K? Now I don't know where they hid it yet. I'm not debating that.
[01:02:09] Unknown:
I'm not debating that. I'm just saying the two pages she gave us, there was no warning box anywhere. Alright. What about I have the box. About
[01:02:17] Unknown:
alright. What about under the, oath where the four checkboxes are? The the fourth one is I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so. Were those there underneath your oath?
[01:02:31] Unknown:
Okay. Just so that I can be very, what's the they didn't use they didn't use to have that stuff in there. Up my passbook notebook so that I can speak with authority.
[01:02:46] Unknown:
Alright. Box used to be in the instructions.
[01:02:49] Unknown:
Well, it used to be at the top of the first page when I did it. Then they buried it in the instructions when I started teaching this. And then somewhere along the line, they changed the oath to add those four check boxes, which the fourth one is I've read and understand the warning box. That gives them the opportunity to cover their sorry slaving asses, and I'm guaranteeing you that's still there.
[01:03:18] Unknown:
Okay. Let me tell you. What it says on the fifth, it has five expressions. I declare under the penalty of perjury all of the following, and it has one, two, three, four, five. And five says I have read and understood. So There it is. It's number five says I number five says I have read and understood the warning on page four of the instructions to the application form.
[01:03:44] Unknown:
Yeah. So they're there. She may not have given them to you. Hold on. But they're there. See, they have to have them there because this is the one paperwork from any agency that falls under the heading of public information gathering requests. And when it does that, they're sending something out to the public like the application you got, and they want information back on it. And any one of the agencies that puts out any paper like that then has to go get an OMB number on it, which makes sure that it's constitutional. You you understand all that? Grateful for the education.
[01:04:25] Unknown:
I am grateful for the education that you gave us because I could speak with authority and with the same, knowledge. So Yeah. That's okay. People perish for lack of knowledge. So when I walked in there, when she did the oath, she did not say number five, that you have read and understood the warning box on page four of the instructions to the application form. She never said that in her oral because she said, our names, and she says you both declare. And she went through line item by line item, but she did not put number five, and you also read the warning box. That's my point. I mean, if I hadn't, done that declaration and all of that, if I didn't have the knowledge, and that's why I'm sharing this information with you all, If you don't have the knowledge, then you cannot be a good girl scout or boy scout and be prepared.
No. Okay?
[01:05:28] Unknown:
So You will never find it. If you don't have the background knowledge, you'll never see and find this. You'll read right over it. You won't know how it applies. You won't know what it means, and you won't know why they have to put it in there that this gal is skirting around. Now that's very interesting, Linda. I'm sorry to continue to interrupt you, but this is really pretty interesting. Go ahead.
[01:05:52] Unknown:
So when I showed her my antique, application from years ago, I showed her the warning box, and I said, you know, false statements made knowingly and willfully in passport applications, including affidavits or other documents. And I said I underscored it. And I said, see, including affidavits or other documents submitted to support this application. And she said, okay. And so then I pulled out my beautiful, affidavits, one for my husband, one for me, a certified copy of our cover letters. And I said, that being said, in the warning box, my husband and I are submitting these documents to be added to our application.
And she was flabbergasted. She she she looked at my affidavits and she said, oh my. These are so beautiful. Are you sure you wanna give this Department of State these originals? And I said, I have 10 originals. I said, they're gonna return them. Right? She said, yes. And I said, okay. So I am submitting these originals. And so, anyway, she was, she didn't ask me any questions. She just was very accommodating. She, couldn't have been more kind, more professional, more accommodating. That's the word for the day. Okay. So I just wanted to share this, experience because I've heard time and time again over my reputation with being part of this community, how people get, questioned and so on and so forth. Now I've witnessed people at the post office just standing on one side of the counter while the lady was on the other side of the counter, having them do their oaths and so on and so forth.
And when it said in the box, it said, what country, I put US Of America. And so she didn't bat an eyelash at that. So I was very cognizant of how this should be done. And tell you the truth, because the boxes were so skewed, almost like there were no boxes in the application, because she photocopied it. She photo telephoto copied it from one, application that she had in the drawer because she was anticipating that we would walk in with our application all filled out, But I didn't wanna do it that way. I wanted to go line item by line item with this gal, and it couldn't have been more pleasant because we were in a private office, my style, a building of nineteen o three before this whole nonsense came to fruition.
And, it was just a wonderful thing. So my suggestion to people is call the, passport office and ask them if there's another place other than the post office that you can go to. And then, you'll have a more private audience. You can, execute. I was like Columbo yesterday. I didn't act like I knew anything.
[01:09:07] Unknown:
But you know how Columbo is, and he asked Done. Question. But he already knows what to do. Wait. Wait. Wait. Just just one more just just one more question, please. Go ahead.
[01:09:16] Unknown:
Yes. You wanna ask me a question? Go ahead. No. That's Columbo. Go ahead.
[01:09:23] Unknown:
I was calling Columbo.
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So I I recommend that everyone do their Columbo, and don't act like they're the know it alls. And don't let them feel like they're the most important person in the room. That's that's what Jesus does. And so at the end, she so enjoyed meeting each of us. It was so pleasant, and, I can't say enough. And it was on a memorable day, the hundred and first year of my mother-in-law. God rest her soul. So I'll never forget 06/02/2025.
[01:09:59] Unknown:
And so that was my story, and I'm sticking to it. Story. Linda, let me ask you a question. Did she come out with the comment, this is the first time I've ever seen anybody do this?
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Actually, yes. And my husband, when we left, he said my he said to the girl, he goes, my wife's the smartest woman I know. It's the smartest person I know. Oh. But with my my with my Colombo routine, she's, like, spoon feeding me like I'm a third grader, and she's the teacher. But, it's so lovely to be humble in these situations, to be humble and kind. You get more bees with honey than you do vinegar. And so if anyone that's new listening on the call or anyone that's a veteran listening to this, testimony, you remember how it went with you, and now you're hearing how it went with lady Linda Louise, and it was a very pleasant, beautiful experience.
And, now when I start teaching this, I have something to go by, a platform that will encourage people. And I'll tell you the truth. My husband was nervous as all get out. Are you sure they're gonna take something? I said, Boobala, let me handle this. And so he was so proud and so happy when he left that place. Oh, this is another thing. We have World Service Authority passports. And so we've had them for several years, so that's why we needed to get this USA passport signed, sealed, and delivered. So in our U in our World Service Authority passports, they gave us the universal declaration of the UN.
And I said, oh, by the way because Jerry put down his World Service Authority passport number where it says your passport port number. And I said, oh, they I think they want a USA passport number, honey, and you never did a USA passport. So so he's going, I got my passport card here. So he's I have the passport. He has the card. So we're showing this lady our passport. She goes, wow. This is so beautiful. She goes, how did you get that? And I said, oh, it's it has something to do with the UN. And then I said, she was a, a boy scout leader. So I said, have you heard of that universal declaration of the, United Nations? She goes, no. Tell me more. And I said, oh, they submitted with the passport. So I mine is perfect condition because I have it all perfectly protected in a passport cover. And I showed it to her, and she was so enchanted by it. She's I said, would you like to make a copy of this? She goes, I would love to.
So, anyway, that's my story. Well, that's a very interesting experience.
[01:12:54] Unknown:
Linda and audience, some folks do not have that kind and and and gracious and experience with a bureaucrat. Some we've had a few that are very hostile. And, you know, we can't do this. You can't do you can't include that. Well, it says it right. You can't include it. Well, can I your next question is, can I speak with your supervisor? And so then you speak with the supervisor. And in that instance, I think it was Princess out in California, and the supervisor said they couldn't do it. So should you ever run into that situation, then your next question is, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? K? But you can show them right in the document. Now, Linda, did you actually did she ask you even though she didn't read you that box?
Did she ask you to check it when you signed the document, the number five?
[01:13:50] Unknown:
No. There was no place to check it. I'm looking at the application. There was no place to check, any kind of a a box.
[01:14:01] Unknown:
Now they used to. The last one I saw and the last one I did here about, January a year ago had that in there with a checkbox next to it. Did this one take that top message and and have a checkbox on that checkbox on that where you validated that you agree with the other five options underneath it? Was it that kind of a situation?
[01:14:25] Unknown:
No. It was it was she was the notary. It says signature person authorized to accept applications. So she did not give us the copy with her signature on it. She just gave us the copy with our signature on it. So we don't have her
[01:14:43] Unknown:
disability number or agent ID number. I don't care. I don't care about anything with her. I care about how did they tie you into agreeing with that statement. I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so. Because they don't just put that for your help.
[01:15:01] Unknown:
Right. I I don't know about this. I know the four corner rule. And our signature block was on the right side of the paper, which is the hand of God, the right side versus the left. A lot of times, these agencies have you sign on the left side, but it was on the right side and it was in a box. It wasn't even it just says, applicant's legal signature dash age 18 and older. And so we autographed in that box. There was no connection between that box and the declaration. Statements.
[01:15:37] Unknown:
Well, then they're even trying to further separate it where you doesn't or they don't bring it out where you've got to read it and check it. Okay? It's just to me Right. Shows you further evidence of hiding it. And the fact that she didn't read that to you when she read the other ones would buttress that, I would think. So, well, usually the whole passport thing part go ahead, Linda.
[01:16:02] Unknown:
Her app her application was, 12/31/2023. So I have the old VM control number, and then it says expiration date 12/2023. Okay. So even her application that she had to fill out was an expired application. So I don't even know what 2025 application looks like.
[01:16:29] Unknown:
Yep. Well, anyway, it's, sounds like you had a very pleasant experience, and I think you did very, very well. And you had a nice person you were dealing with in a nice setting and scenario, and good on you. Let me ask you. If you wouldn't have gone to the next town, how far would the drive to Boston have been?
[01:16:50] Unknown:
Oh, 80 miles, which is not a big deal in New England. It's not like the Beltway of Dallas, Texas, which is a three hour Beltway. So and going anywhere in in New England is is easy peasy. It's just that in my ignorance, I didn't realize until this experience that all the listeners have they if they have not gotten their passports yet, they can opt to not go to a post office and go to, like, a rural area where there's a federal agent. Like, she said, that's all she does at this office. She's a federal agent, and this is all she does day in and day out. Of course. It's her boss. Yeah.
So, you know, for Ellington, Connecticut, which is a small town, and Summers is a small town. All these little small towns. I mean, my they have the airport in every one of these villages, but they're ignorant people. They're not ignorant. They're just stupid because stupid means they don't know anything. Ignorant means they're not knowing the truth. Functionally
[01:17:58] Unknown:
functionally illiterate,
[01:18:00] Unknown:
I think, is a really nice way to say that. Go ahead. Okay. Functionally illiterate. Thank you. I needed to be taught that because I don't like the word s t u p I d. But anyway, when I experienced time and time again witnessing people getting their passports at the airport pass pass passport facility, it's right in the lobby. So there's no privacy. And Yeah. I like this because you have to when you do your declaration, she has she's repeating your SS number to you. She goes, it what is your SS number? And so we have to recite it, like, verbatim by memory.
So she she knows that is definitely our SS number. So if we were reciting our SS number in the lobby of a post office, that would that would allow people to hear what we're doing and would would be able to jot down our SS number. So I'm just suggesting that when you call the main branch, you ask them what other facility can you go get your passport. And then that facility would be my first choice because of the experience I have.
[01:19:11] Unknown:
There are private companies that will do it for you too. You're gonna have to pay them a little bit to do it, but you can go that route. Oh, that's fine. Thank you for mentioning that.
[01:19:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And let me tell you this. If I had gone to the post office, it would they would have charged us $35 each for the application fee, which would have been $70 total.
[01:19:32] Unknown:
Well, when did that start? I went to the
[01:19:36] Unknown:
I don't know. I didn't ask for history. I and then I said, at this facility, at this library, it was just $135 fee for the both of us.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
Oh, I didn't even know they were charging for that. Thora?
[01:19:51] Unknown:
Yes. When I was talking to Thora, she had the same experience. She went to a facility, not a a post office, facility. She went to a I don't know where she went, but it was a different facility. Maybe it was a library. I don't know. Maybe it was a town hall. I didn't ask her the particulars. But she also knew that it was only $35 for her and not $70 for both she and her husband. And she said I think she said she got her passport in 2023. I mean, don't quote me. She got it maybe a year before me because I've been listening to you since, the December 9.
Oh, are you there, Thora?
[01:20:34] Unknown:
I'm here, and you're correct.
[01:20:36] Unknown:
Thora's always there.
[01:20:38] Unknown:
Thank you for Hi,
[01:20:40] Unknown:
Thora. Hi. Was it was it a library where you went, Thora?
[01:20:44] Unknown:
No. We went to a town office. Oh. And and we knew that that would be a nice place because we we can make an appointment and have a private room and all that just like you did.
[01:20:56] Unknown:
Well, that's something I think our community needs to know about so that they can be treated with respect and dignity. Because when you walk in, they have the seats ready for you, and they're very gracious, and they're federal agents. Now the the the individual that did your work, was it exclusive passport? They didn't have any other function in that facility?
[01:21:20] Unknown:
I think that they, they did other things, but they, they were I guess that they were, like, the passport people, but I think they had other duties as well. So you had to make an appointment with, I don't know what they call them. But, you know, have to work. An authorized
[01:21:40] Unknown:
agent has to supervise your signature on a d s 11.
[01:21:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And he clearly go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. You go ahead. Sorry. I'm I'm sorry. Stated. She clearly stated that she was a federal agent. She didn't say I'm an authorized representative. She clearly said she was a federal agent, and I I told her I was grateful because I said this is precarious to have your SS number. You know? And and then when we left, she put our application in a lockbox, and she showed she says it's all locked and safe here. And I said thank you. Because she had to go answer some legal questions. So she might have been a lawyer or but the one of the workers came in and said, you know, missus Phillips, there's someone out here that has a legal question. So I didn't ask her if she was an attorney or a lawyer, but whatever the question was, only she could answer it in that library. So Well, sounds like a very pleasant to be known for.
[01:22:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That sounds like a very pleasant experience, and, glad you guys got around to it. Now, Linda, did you just order a card, or did you order a whole new passport book and card? Oh, no. No. No. We ordered the whole shebang. Our son-in-law is in South Korea,
[01:23:03] Unknown:
and, you know, we can travel all over the world and stay in military lodges and bases and stuff because of my sub husband's service with the military. So we just we I personally there's no place like home. I don't have that wanderlust to travel from here to there to Solomon Square. But my husband and I would like to go to, Ecuador. And, you know, if my wellness, continues to increase in the positive, thanks to Thora. And I will, be very, very happy to share my latest wellness
[01:23:42] Unknown:
statement. How does your son-in-law like South Korea and your daughter like South Korea? He was he was just stationed,
[01:23:49] Unknown:
this May, so he's been there for less than four weeks. So Okay. Anyway
[01:23:56] Unknown:
Well, find out down the line. For a year. My most of the people I've met that spent any time there didn't like it too much. But I if you ever get the chance to ask him after they've been there a while, let us know. Now Well,
[01:24:12] Unknown:
when we go to if if if and when we go, the South Korean Lodge is top of the line. So we've been to lodges in Newport, Rhode Island and Oh, you're talking about the military stuff. Okay.
[01:24:25] Unknown:
Okay. Cool. Well, listen. So our accommodation will be good. Go home. Well, it it's a long flight if you get to go, and hopefully, you will and experience a good experience. As for acquiring this passport, they've evidently changed some of the processes. These are new things that Linda's informing us of here and, in certain areas. But, people have the I've gotten a couple emails on this lately. People continually think there's some kind of snafu in there. There's no snafu in the passport application except them hiding this warning box that you can attach your affidavit. And as, of course, as we've talked about before, copper moonshine still, those boys out of Arkansas, advised people to lie, on their passport application and check that their parents were not citizens of The United States.
I totally disagree with that. He, doesn't understand part of the reason that's there because it's futile. And, but you answered those correctly, I'm sure, Linda. And, it's very simple application. The snafu is to know that you've got to include your affidavit in there. And should any of them object, which we have had happen, you can go over and point out the warning box, which is now included in some way, shape, or form with the oath. They changed that about Yeah. Ten or twelve years ago after we started teaching this stuff. That wasn't there before. And on the old one I've got, which is back from earlier this century, it wasn't there. And the warning box is on the top of the first page. So the they've made some changes, but just, roll with the flow. There's no big, things you can do. You just you the one thing you don't wanna do is a, not there's two, I guess. A, not include the affidavit, and, b, don't don't lie on there in any way, shape, or form. They take passport fraud very seriously. Yes, ma'am.
[01:26:38] Unknown:
Well, if I may if I may, Thora, did she go through the declaration the way the passport lady went through the declaration with my husband and I? Did she say to you number five, have you understood the warning on page one of the instructions of this application form? Did she ask you that when you did your oath?
[01:27:00] Unknown:
She did.
[01:27:02] Unknown:
Ah. Interesting.
[01:27:05] Unknown:
Yeah. So, yes, this lady did not.
[01:27:09] Unknown:
Yeah. That is interesting. Yes. This woman was very thorough.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
Well, I thought miss Phillips was very thorough, but, you know, who knows? You know? Actually, when I showed her the warning box, it looked like it was new news to her.
[01:27:26] Unknown:
She probably never read all the instructions. She probably never read all the instructions. And for the new listeners Yeah. This isn't something they want to put in there. This is something they have to put in there to get that OMB number because it makes it legitimate. They've given you they've they've put it in front of you. Now whether you read it or not, whether you understood it or not, those make no difference. They've got it in front of you, and it's in the document, so they get issued the o m b number. Now they can accept the application. That's the importance of that. And it's to my knowledge, with the with the exception of the forty four seventy three form from ATF where it asks you, are you a US citizen or national?
It's the only other piece of paperwork I've ever seen where they had to put that in there. K? So very important. That's why and don't forget, for those of you who may be new, that's how I put all this together was the passport application finally. I've been searching for that answer for fifteen years. And the reason hold on just a second, Thor, if you would. The reason teaching moment here. The reason that I had never, because I never wanted to interface with the federal government. I was scared like, everybody else is. Okay? And I had to because I had to get a passport to move to Argentina, and, by god, I was moving to Argentina.
Okay? And it's only that interaction after fifteen years. And the reason for it, I come to understand, is probably a a large reason for the failure of our community as a whole over all these years. It's these tricks that they lay down. And they take the same concept, and they put a different label on it. And that's why we teach concepts, concepts, concepts here. If you grasp the concepts, they can't fool you with a label. Okay? So that's there's there's reason for everything we do here. Nothing is just done, like, out of my sphincter muscle to the audience. It just doesn't work that way. Everything here has been thought out. K? Now, Thor, I interrupted you, sweetie. Sorry.
[01:29:42] Unknown:
No. It was yours truly, lady Linda Louise. Oh, okay. What she said, she said, I declare under the penalty of perjury all of the following. She didn't say, you know, The United States Of America. Now on that thing that I signed, it says I am a citizen or a noncitizen national of The United States. So what I autographed was that I am a citizen, but I'm a United States Of America citizen. So, Thora, when they did your, oath, did they say US citizen, or did they say citizen, or do you remember that far back?
[01:30:22] Unknown:
I don't remember.
[01:30:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I can't remember specifically that. Well I wish I recorded it, and I didn't think of that.
[01:30:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, somebody might wanna do that. May wanna do that in the future. But on the passport on the passport itself, Linda, it's got both of the conditions. We've got US citizen in the background. It's got USA, USA, USA. So there's both of the conditions right there.
[01:30:53] Unknown:
Correct. Everybody's making that it was interesting. Location doesn't say US citizen. It just says citizen. And, of course, I'm United States Of America citizen. So it wasn't like I was lying, but we just said I do. You know? I mean, I didn't correct and say United States Of America. I didn't do any correcting. Well, you did. Immigration.
[01:31:15] Unknown:
You corrected with your affidavit.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Where you're corrected. My application.
[01:31:22] Unknown:
Like, even on my application where it says in country, I put US Of America. I don't know if you did that, Dora. Okay. But I I and I told her I did it, so it wasn't like I was trying to, you know, pull the wool over her eyes. She goes, oh, yeah. That's fine.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
In fact, on this on on the top of the application, it will say secretary of state of The United States Of America, I believe, if you'll look.
[01:31:50] Unknown:
Not on this application. It says US Department of State, the application for US passport. That's what it says on the top. Okay. Well, they've they've made a lot of changes,
[01:32:02] Unknown:
since I've been messing with this. So and I've said and, you know, the other the part, that's quite a compliment when they change the application for a passport because of your teaching exposing them as slavers. I consider that to be quite a compliment.
[01:32:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. I agree. I agree.
[01:32:26] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Well, there's I knew somebody would have something to say over all that discussion, and it's Larry. Surprise. Surprise. Hey, Larry. Morning.
[01:32:36] Unknown:
Yes. Good morning.
[01:32:38] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Good morning. This is CJ.
[01:32:42] Unknown:
Oh, CJ is here. Oh. Okay. CJ, Larry, I'm gonna recognize you when Larry finishes because he was already launching off, and welcome back. Go ahead, Larry.
[01:32:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just wondering. I kinda got lost in the details. What was lady Linda having an issue? What what exactly was the issue? And, another thing I'd like to, inject is you can go to a courthouse and also, you know, apply for your passport. That's what I did in Jacksonville, Florida.
[01:33:16] Unknown:
Right. And and we've had it done out in Texas and, it was, it was our buddy Ken out there who took it over to that little one horse town in Western Texas. He took it to the courthouse, and he never saw the judge. He only saw the clerk. And the clerk handled everything for him. He signed it. They took it. Wouldn't let him have it back, and they submitted it to the passport division. So we've had that happen before. Not often, Larry, by the way. Okay? There was no issue. Right. The lady Linda's authorized agent there did exactly what she was supposed to do and and exactly what Linda and her husband wanted them to do. So she was just, giving us the experience. Okay?
[01:34:00] Unknown:
Okay. I I thought maybe I missed something at the beginning of her No. No. Of her call. She was just ecstatic about her little experience and wanted to inform And she got a card or a book?
[01:34:11] Unknown:
They have both. They both got both.
[01:34:14] Unknown:
Alright. They they both applied for both.
[01:34:18] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Now I wanna, turn my attention to CJ. CJ, you came on yesterday with an opinion. Have we spoken before a while back? CJ?
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Probably last year.
[01:34:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I've you know, I talked to a lot of people on here sometimes if I've only spoken once or twice. I've done register with me, but I was glad to see somebody that appeared to be new yesterday and putting their their opinion. So you've been listening for a while?
[01:34:54] Unknown:
Yes. I listen on and off, plus I am a member of other online, Patriot Freedom Loving groups Yes, ma'am. Where we execute these many things. Currently, I'm executing the the, the multiple projects in a plan, a spreadsheet plan provided to me by Lisa Writing that seems to have real teeth. Really?
[01:35:24] Unknown:
Okay. You're are you in California?
[01:35:29] Unknown:
I'm here and there. I bounce between Colorado and the East Coast. In fact, I'm looking for an East Coast patriot freedom loving group that meets here on the ground in the Western Maryland and West Virginia and Virginia area.
[01:35:48] Unknown:
We've got some Virginia gals, of course, and, I don't know of any groups that meet up there regularly. The only one on the East Coast I know of is down in Jacksonville, Florida. And I think it's a friend of Larry's. It's Brian has a has a group that meets regularly down there. So, anyway, well, if we, if anybody knows of groups that meet in that area, if you see Jay know, we'd appreciate it. See, this is, again, how we need to grow because we can't have things like that until we get enough people. Now if you were in Flathead, Montana, it would be a different story, although they haven't been meeting because of Gary's health. But they've got a group that over 50 people that meets every Monday out there.
[01:36:32] Unknown:
Wow. Online or in person?
[01:36:35] Unknown:
In person.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Very impressive. Yep. They're the they're the biggest, group I know of, and here's the advantage of that. Is, years ago, professor Livingston, who was one of the founders, cofounders of the League of the South, was, somebody sent me an old speech of his. And, he during the middle of the speech, it was out at Kennesaw Mountain, which is Northwest of Atlantis, the pivot point of the Battle of the South, really. But, anyway, he was given a talk out there, and he said, after the civil war, it appears the, states cannot secede, but, apparently, counties can.
Well, that really struck me, and I got the fellow that got me a speech who knew doctor Livingston to get a hold of him. And he said, oh, yeah. Yeah. We have we knew a lot more since then when he gave that speech. And and he said, here's what happened. They took after the civil war, they took one county from Virginia and made West Virginia. Did you know that, CJ?
[01:37:54] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. There there was quite a move, and it was, initially over slavery as I understand it. Could have been. I know that, here a couple of years ago when they were
[01:38:07] Unknown:
when you had a Democratic governor there in Virginia, so it was a couple of terms ago, and there was a big, gun demonstration in the state, and they all went to the State House there or to the Governor's Mansion or something, toting their toting their their firearms, their equalizers. And, that night on on, Tucker Carlson, he had a legislator from West Virginia who said, listen. To you counties from Virginia that wanna come up and join us, just get a hold of me. So evidently, that still applies. The counties could move over and join West Virginia. Well, that sets up a precedent for Flathead County, Montana.
Now I don't know how far to go or anything else, but they've got over 12 certified nationals. And if they could get the sheriff on their side, they could start having common law grand juries and all kinds of stuff. But anyway, that's just theoretically. Okay? So they're the best county in the country for that. I'd love to know that we could have that all over, but we just don't have enough people yet. So c g c j, is there anything else we can help you with? Good lord. Colorado? Man, they've Colorado's gone to the dogs. I'm I'm sorry to say. I know. Poor Colorado. Poor Colorado. Such a beaut Maryland.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
And and Maryland is worse?
[01:39:34] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yeah. But the the state of Maryland is worse and Well, I think there's one particular county that's the worst in the state of Maryland. Is it Prince Rupert Sound or something? There's one big I guarantee you, it's the it's the district that put j j Raskin in congress.
[01:39:53] Unknown:
K? Jamie Raskin. It's Prince George's.
[01:39:57] Unknown:
Prince George's. Prince George's. Okay. Well, there you go. Most liberal county in the state I've heard. So, anyway, we'll see, Jay. Well, would you like to tell us anything else? I mean, I was pleasantly surprised to hear you come in. I I like to when I find out there's somebody kinda lurking out there that we don't know, I like to reach out. So is there any do you have any questions or anything? You have been very quiet when you've been lurking. May I, Roger? Well, Homer, can you let me ask her a question first, Robbie?
[01:40:26] Unknown:
I just can't ask her a question. Absolutely.
[01:40:29] Unknown:
K. Was
[01:40:31] Unknown:
was there anything else that you wanted to ask or ask, CJ, or I'm gonna turn my attention to Robbie here, I guess.
[01:40:39] Unknown:
Not nothing to ask per se except, not nothing to ask, but just a statement about my, the whole passport thing where I finally had to get on a plane and fly across the country to get my national properly documented passport and passport card and also to obtain a world, a world passport. Some of them I will be testing. I understand that the three stars in the right corner of the passport card indicates, that you need at least three stars. I don't know what you mean about that. You are
[01:41:23] Unknown:
a I don't know. I'm not sure if that's correct or not, CJ, so I don't know where you got that information. Yeah. I'll yeah.
[01:41:31] Unknown:
I'll I'll be testing it, but from what I've I've heard from Lisa writing that the three stars means that you are at least a diplomat, which means you're not a US citizen under that jurisdiction. And then preferably, we want four or five. And some of the the people I meet with regularly, they have four and five stars in the upper right hand corner of their passport card.
[01:41:57] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. They have various stars. I don't know the meaning for that. We have a document. I think Paul's got it on the website. It doesn't relate to the stars. It relates to the numerical sequence that's there, and they give you a a numerical designation o nine. And if you look on that list, it says national, but down at the bottom, it says noncitizen national, the bottom of that little field. We've had people with 77 on there, which one 77. I don't remember if it's diplomatic courier or, whatever. But they've we've had three separate designations come out of the numerical stuff. But none of that matters.
What matters Uh-huh. According to an 1835 Supreme Court site, which we also have on the website there, What matters is what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary. The passport and the passport card are, as that decision, 200 years old almost, says those are ex parte documents. And if it comes to fact of citizenship, it depends on if the document is admissible in a court of law, it's the paperwork in the possession of the secretary, which is the higher and better evidence. That's verbatim from the court site. Okay? So if you really wanna be sure, do a privacy request like a FOIA, Not a FOIA because they don't send it to you because it's private information. So you do a privacy request and ask for what's in your file.
And if if there Right. There the affidavit will be in there. I promise you.
[01:43:41] Unknown:
K? So Yes. And and I already I I already con conducted that, and I received a response of all the copies of what's in my, like, passport file, and my affidavit is in there.
[01:43:53] Unknown:
Well, there you go.
[01:43:55] Unknown:
Yeah. So so that's very good. So the Okay. So don't stay hung up.
[01:44:00] Unknown:
Don't get hung up on the stars and the numerical thing because the that doesn't really make a difference. It can be indicative, but what really matters is when you did that request and you saw it in your file and you got a copy of that, you're golden. Yes.
[01:44:15] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I I just wanted to to to mention the stars. I I don't really care either. I just, I
[01:44:23] Unknown:
just wanted to and straighten the other people in your group. Try and straighten that out for them because people get real hung up on that, and it's not the answer. K?
[01:44:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. They they they don't care about that so much either.
[01:44:37] Unknown:
Okay. Good
[01:44:39] Unknown:
deal. Right. And and then I'm doing a a US DOT number to move my Yes, ma'am. My automobile my automobile from the from the public into the private. Private. Good. And that's been quite an experience. So
[01:44:57] Unknown:
I'm glad you mentioned it's not registered.
[01:45:01] Unknown:
Right. So so it's not registered with the state per se. It's registered with the the the federal United States Department of Transportation.
[01:45:11] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, good girl. You're on the right track, and you're a good, attentive to detail student, and we're glad you come along and visit with us occasionally. Yes. Happy to. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you so much, CJ, for letting us get to know you a little bit better. Now we're gonna turn to miss Robbie who used to never come on the show, and just send me all these emails. And now she's gotten brave, and she comes on. Robbie, what did you have?
[01:45:39] Unknown:
Blabbermouth. Yes, Roger. I just had a couple corrections. I can tell you for a fact that it's Montgomery County, 1 of the richest counties in the country that that creep rat skin is in. I lived there for forty years and was horrified when I woke up and found out the belly of the beast that I was in, but I have made my great escape, and I thank eternal God for it. Secondly My yesterday, I listened to the replay, and, you had mentioned the girls on the, masons were rainbows. Now my father, my grandfather, my uncle were thirty second degree, and I was a Job's daughter for a brief period.
It was the most horrible, boring thing I ever did. So, thankfully, I wasn't there long, but I had the I may even still have the stinking uniform to prove it. That's how much of a hoarder I am. But, hopefully, I throw it away in my move. Thank you. Okay. Well, I'm sorry for not being totally up on my Freemason
[01:46:49] Unknown:
nomenclature. Okay.
[01:46:52] Unknown:
So Well, that's okay. Brent wasn't either. Brent was wrong also. The Malay is for the boys. And Job's daughter is for the girls. I think the rainbows I'm not sure what the mothers are. Is that that could be rainbow. I don't know.
[01:47:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, me either. So, anyway, I've I've never had anything to do with them. I thought Demolay was only for the guys. Now do you do you know hold on. You know who Demolay was, Larry? I think that adult women are morning stars or something like that. That's what I thought it was. Or eastern stars or something. Okay. You know Jacques de Molay? Okay. Thank you, Dave. Larry, do you know who Jacques de Molay was?
[01:47:36] Unknown:
No.
[01:47:38] Unknown:
He was one of the had a question for Robbie. He was he was, one of the fair haired boys, in the Freemasons. And when they pulled that surprise raid on them in Paris on Friday the thirteenth, and they cut his head off. And him and others' heads were displayed on the top of poles leading in the main road to Paris, and that's why the Dimalay name stuck. Now what was your question originally?
[01:48:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I was wondering, Robbie, what exactly is revealed to someone when they reach these upper levels Oh. In the in the, you know, in this masonry belief system, like, when you reach thirty, thirty one, 30 two, is there, like, some major secrets that are revealed to you? Yeah. They can't tell you. Well hurry? Come on.
[01:48:35] Unknown:
It's secret.
[01:48:36] Unknown:
Then you Well, I wasn't I wasn't anything high ranking, but I do listen to, a teacher that talks about it. And I believe that by the third degree,
[01:48:48] Unknown:
you do know that you are worshiping Lucifer, but I could be wrong. Hold on. Well, I'm Joe's gonna probably come on here and bore a hole in you because he's been a Mason his whole life. Joe, are you with us? Is that correct?
[01:49:02] Unknown:
I think he'd say that. Totally wrong.
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There you go. I'll be from a mate from a Freemason right from his mouth. K?
[01:49:12] Unknown:
Now Well, I'm definitely not for Freemasonry
[01:49:15] Unknown:
if you study the history of it. I'm definitely not for it. You're well, I don't think any of us are for Jacob and Freemasonry. That's what George Washington and all the founders were against. That's this, in in this, infiltration of the Masons by these Illuminati creeps, and the Scottish right from my understanding. Joe, you got anything to add on this, very complex subject?
[01:49:46] Unknown:
Well, the only thing that I'm gonna add because I'm kinda busy and I don't have time to visit Yeah. But, there's much being spoke from speculation. Okay. And speculation will get you in big trouble. I mean, well well, you know you know about the monkey climbing up the flagpole.
[01:50:17] Unknown:
God. I hope he's taking that damn pride flag down.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Well, I'm speaking of the ones that stand on the ground.
[01:50:28] Unknown:
Okay. Anyway, well, look, Joe. You're busy. Go back to work. We'll query you another day. Thank you very much. I don't know. It's big big big topic in our movement always. And, I think there's a def, a line of demarcation there between the old Freemasons and the Jacobins. They were the ones that think their main lodge in the world. Yeah. I think their main lodge in the world is in Paris. Yes, Larry?
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Do you believe, president Clinton was a thirty third degree Mason along with, Trent Lott? That's why he wasn't convicted?
[01:51:13] Unknown:
I I think Bill Clinton is a bastard Rockefeller. I don't know about Trent Lott. He used to be from Mississippi. I remember that. But I I there there is some suggestion that Bill Clinton is a bastard in Rockefeller. Yes. And that he was fathered when Hey, Robert. Hey, Roger. Well, hold hold on. Why? He was fathered when the Rockefeller was the governor of, governor of Arkansas, and, his mother was a, a a gal of the evening in Hot Springs, if you will. Okay. Now, Wahid, you always come in at the end of the show. What kind of left field question do you have for me today?
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No. This is this is relevant. Remember, you know, they say Hitler was,
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a a a rough child.
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My no. Well, they did some people do say that. I'm not sure whether I agree with it or not. Go ahead.
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That his mother that his mother, was a maid.
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Yes. I've heard that.
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K.
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Roger. So speculation. Yes. Samuel, is that you?
[01:52:31] Unknown:
Yeah. From my understanding, there was only one thirty third degree president, and, that was Truman. Herb. And I think there were four other 32 degree.
[01:52:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Because he's got pictures with him with his little vest on. It was a apron.
[01:52:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I I think also, or what was the vice president became president? The athlete, the golfer. He was 32, I believe.
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Eisenhower?
[01:53:05] Unknown:
No. Ford. He has to be Ford. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And a couple others. Could be. Alright. That's it.
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Okay. We're getting close to the end of the show. About five minutes left. Somebody got something they wanna add? Roger? Yes, sir Larry.
[01:53:26] Unknown:
Okay. So are you proposing that there's two schools of masonry and that Joe is kinda like Star Wars? He's in he's on the the, not the dark side, but the, the good side. And then you got other people that are involved in the dark side.
[01:53:43] Unknown:
I'm not proposing anything. I'm telling you what was in George Washington's private diary by his own hand. They were scared to death of the Jacobin influence in the Freemasonry, and they were not anywhere near hand in hand with them. And that was when the alleged
[01:54:02] Unknown:
guy I will make a I will make a comment on that, Roger. Okay. Please. And I think what I think what the gentleman said is quite accurate. And so far as thirty third degree versus thirty second degree masons, you are you only become a thirty third degree mason by invitation.
[01:54:32] Unknown:
Yes. There you go. And that's And that's unusual because the all the rest of them, you can only get into freemasonry by you know, to be one, ask one. You've got to volunteer into it on your initiative. Then you get up to the thirty third, and then they invite you to that level.
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You are correct.
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Okay. Thank you, Joe.
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If my understanding Did Jacob been?
[01:55:00] Unknown:
Go ahead, Wahid.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
The what what's the Jacobins, the French revolutionaries? Correct?
[01:55:09] Unknown:
They were the, they were that I was about to tell you where they came from from my research is after the Illuminati was founded, they were sending out their papers to different lodges and places around the country, the Europe. And the guy that was the horseman that had the papers on him was struck by lightning in Germany, and I think in Bavaria. Might be wrong. But, anyway, then the newspapers got ahold of them and started publishing them, and that's when they went underground. And I believe that's when they went and penetrated the the monasteries and that they hid the monasteries.
Okay? It just might read on it from what I've read, Waiheed. K? So that's what I know. Alright? So what who who else has got something to comment on here while we got a couple of minutes? I thought it was very interesting when I was to Louise? Yes, ma'am. You may. Yes. Of course.
[01:56:15] Unknown:
Thank you for bringing thank you for bringing up for CJ if she's still on. Thank you for bringing up the endorsement numbers. I showed the lady that was the federal agent at the library, my package of endorsement numbers. Because I said to her, after the four weeks and I get my, passport, I will be doing a a privacy request because I wanna know what's in my administrative file, and I wanna know what endorsement number they gave me in the back office. And so she looked at me, and she goes, that's a good idea. So there's so many things. I wish I recorded it, but, you know, when you bring up something, it stimulates my memory.
[01:57:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I guarantee you, she'd never had an applicant pin her ears back like that before.
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Especially in a Colombo app applicant. Right. Right. That she thought, well
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Well, I think you did an exemplary job, Linda, and thank you for coming on and telling us about your experience and relating it to us. Yes, sir. Samuel.
[01:57:25] Unknown:
I just wanted to say something about Truman, you know? Yeah. He was given that, honorary degree, thirty third, only one as far as I know. And he acknowledged the, state of Israel Eleven Minutes after they became a nation. Of course, you got 09:11. You got the eleven, I think stands for Boaz and Joachim, the two pillars of Freemasonry, which were supposedly the pillars of, Solomon's temple. So I don't think that's a coincidence.
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Well, I've told you before about the comment in in senator Barkley who was his, at that point, I guess, was his vice president. And they were having something to do with Israel right in this time frame Samuel's talking about. And in Berkeley's book, he said that Truman turned to him and said, Jesus Christ couldn't couldn't couldn't satisfy him two thousand years ago. What do you expect me to do? Which is a classic man. Well, he couldn't say no because they hopped on a plane, a train when he was going around the country politicking and gave him a million dollars in cash.
And that, at the last minute, is what turned around the Chicago Times headline of Dewey wins the presidency, when in actuality, Truman did. And he was very beholden to them for that million dollars in cash. They always greet these kids with cash, folks. Yes, Larry. Quick.
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Yeah. They, the towers came down exactly thirty three years after they were built. And I have another question for you too.
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We're not gonna have much time, and there's go ahead quick.
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Okay. Are executive orders for both US citizens and nationals, or are they for neither, or are they for They're for cabinet the other?
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Originally, they were for cabinet level They were for offices. They were right. George Washington was right in them, I believe. They didn't have any agencies back then. It was for cabinet offices.
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Okay? What if it's constitutional?
[01:59:44] Unknown:
Larry, I don't know. I guess if it's constitutional, it'd apply to us then, wouldn't it?
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Wouldn't it? Did you say it would or wouldn't?
[01:59:56] Unknown:
I said if it's constitutional, it would apply to us, wouldn't it? That's the document that goes on. Some some executive orders talk to us. Own question. Well, you answered your own question.
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Well, a lot of times, I ask questions on behalf of others.
[02:00:14] Unknown:
I see. Well, I I look, man. I mean, I wish I knew everything. It's just like, you know, d other brother Dave Gardner. You remember you him? You ever heard of him before, Larry? Brother Dave Gardner? If you've spoken about him before, yes. Well, he was a southern comedian back when they used to have, you know, on records. And somebody in his audience asked him a question and he said, well, I don't know. And they said, well, I thought you knew everything. He says, well, I do know everything, but I don't know that. That's kinda how I feel. Okay?
So anyway, the music is playing in the background. I wish I knew everything, or maybe I don't. I'm not sure. We strive to know as much as we can and apply it in the correct way, and we do that, I think, pretty damn good around here. So in the interim, we'll see you tomorrow. Wednesday, I've got Patriot lunch. It's a beautiful summer like day, and, I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my afternoon. I suggest you do the same. We will reconvene this meeting tomorrow.
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Same time, same place. Sounds like a plan. See you then. Thank you, Raj.
[02:01:22] Unknown:
Hey buddy. Alright. Paul will click us off all the broadcast units except for his. And so, anyway, I'm not gonna hang today too much unless somebody's got something else for me today that I need to address. Do you?
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Roger.
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Well, I I would've I should've known Larry'd be there. Yes, sir?
[02:01:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I read that, since the first president, some 30,000 executive orders have been written.
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Could be. Could be. Don't know. All I know is whatever nexus they create, I can get out of it if I'm if it doesn't apply to me. That makes me feel very good and very empowered. And for those of you who followed through on this, I hope it does the same with you. So, we'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Will somebody okay. I'm gonna ask again. Does anybody else have anything for me? I may be wrong, but I believe that executive orders are administrative,
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so they would only apply administratively.
[02:02:27] Unknown:
Right. And since all laws are carried out by the administrative agencies, for the most part, they just don't apply to us. Yep. So
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have if you found this information I think maybe you could refine that a bit.
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Pardon me, Bob?
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So I think you could probably refine that a bit. It's not necessarily administrative. Even though it is, it's within the executive department only because the president is the head of the executive branch.
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Well, and most of them are agencies now. They've converted those cabinet positions to agencies. So that's through Understood.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
You you already defined that washing you already defined that Washington didn't have any agencies per se.
[02:03:10] Unknown:
Well, I don't think there were any. There weren't any until '33, I believe, like
[02:03:16] Unknown:
Exactly. So it's the executive branch. That's where they lie. That's where they apply, and there's a lot of agencies within it now. Yeah. Something to bring forward just to refine something that CJ brought forward. She was mentioning the idea that she was going to get her DOT number for her car. It's not for the car. It's for you. It's it spreads across whatever vehicle or mode of transportation you're in. It's not about the car.
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And I queried Joe with Pam the other day from Michigan that said she got something turned down. And Joe wrote back and said, that sounds like a solicitor. When you go through do you see Jay, when you go through that DOT Oh, yeah. There's a box you can check that you don't want people contacting you. Those are solicitors. Please check that box and you won't have any erroneous messages like that. For everybody else, please do the same. That was Joe's speculation on Pam's problem. So just to add that in while Hey, Roger. What's the website that you do that at? She can't find it. Rumble.comfront/joelusticle will give you all the information,
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Dave.
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Rogers? Oh, okay.
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Yes, Boris?
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Roger, it's good to have the solicitor because they remind you when you need to do your renewal. You know?
[02:04:41] Unknown:
Okay. Well, there's a lot of information. Just permit to get suspended. You know? Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't have time. We're going through the process. I don't owe any I don't haven't gone through the process. I don't know all the the ground that's entailed. So thank you, Boris. So maybe you do wanna check the solicitors. Hell, I don't know what to tell you. Go let Joe tell you. K. He knows more about it than I do. Alright? Now who else? Anybody else? Alright. I'm gonna consider that a no. And, you are wonderful wonderful people. Have a wonderful day.
And thank you, Sketch. And, we'll see the majority of you, I guess, tomorrow. So have a great day.
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My god.
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Yep. Ciao.
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Bon appetit. Oh, and he's gone already. Okay. I leave the stream up for, oh, about another twenty five minutes or so if, people wanna continue the discussion. Otherwise, I will take it down. You guys decide.
[02:05:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the first executive order, not a presidential one, was executed by Lincoln. And I think it was to keep the state of Louisiana, which was still in the union, in the union. He sort of did a little military control stuff down there, but they started with Lincoln. Interesting. As dictator, essentially.
[02:06:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Under the auspices of the control machinery that's in place now, Lincoln would have been the one to execute the first executive order under that tyranny, that tyrannical structure,
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I would guess. That we never lost.
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Was that the one under the lever code? Nope.
[02:06:51] Unknown:
I you know what? I Doesn't that order 100?
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Yeah. That comes in later. And then shortly thereafter, before number one, I think, was for to keep try to keep Louisiana in the union because it was in the union when he became president, but he saw it teetering. So he did all kinds of stuff to try to stop the South from the natural tendencies of the thinking of the people. Like, in Maryland, he arrested half the freaking state that had anything to say about it. But, you know, he also called in 75,000 troops to an executive order. And, I mean, it it was just Congress was not going to have much to say about anything.
And the Supreme Court, I mean, we talked earlier about, you know, the the state of Virginia coming into the union. Well, that wasn't constitutional either because they would have had the, they would have had to have the, the go ahead from the state of Virginia to be able to make us another state out of their territory. And, of course, Virginia didn't give him permission, but there's there's that and then he he brought Nevada in as a state early. They spent something like the first long telegraph ever was the state's, constitution.
They didn't even have a number of people in it. It was supposed to become a state, but they brought it in so they could get the votes to put, Lincoln back in office. And so, yeah, Lincoln was nothing but a communist who
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was
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just a dictator. And he took you know, people complain about how bad the constitution was. The constitution was doing okay. It did have weaknesses like there was no way to stop this guy from doing this stuff really. But that constitution had to be gotten rid of in order for them to run the scam they're running these days. So I'll leave it at that.
[02:09:32] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel. Did you just say the constitution of 1787 or the articles of confederation had to be changed. Which one had to be changed for the things to go on today?
[02:09:49] Unknown:
Well, the constitution was in place, and argues with me all the time about the the wonderful articles of Confederation. Well, they have plenty of problems. That's why they came together in order to change it, but, you know, the way I look at it, they're man made documents and they all fail and the constitution was doing a too restrictive job on what the federal government wanted, and they wanted to to neuter it, and they did. So and that's what we have today. There's just no checks and balances like there used to be.
[02:10:33] Unknown:
Someone, the constitution don't fail. We the people fail.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
But The constitution was undermined from the day it was signed, you know? I mean, it's just the way of men.
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Yeah. But people feel comfortable with making the stuff how it is, and they let it go.
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Yep.
[02:11:00] Unknown:
Is Bob still on here? The one the the Bob that said executive orders pertain only to, presidential employ pres president employees?
[02:11:16] Unknown:
That's a problem with being a citizen in The United States. You're sort of a, Washington DC subject, feudal slave. Right?
[02:11:24] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So that's how everybody is, like, an employee of the president because they're a citizen. So the executive order applies to citizens?
[02:11:37] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like the meaning of that's like the meaning of Brost's little treatise is, you know, The USA, the republic, the house that nobody lives in. Sort of what he's getting at there is well, there's there's there's no state citizens anymore. They're all occupying the House Of DC.
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Oh, okay. That sucks.
[02:12:07] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's still a choice.
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Yeah.
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And Bro says if it's a choice, it's political, and the courts are not supposed to get involved in political arguments because choice is choice.
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Good.
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That's why I think that if you could make a strong religious argument with them, they don't have any ground to stand on. Because that's clearly, in this country, still considered your choice, and nobody would really deny you of that.
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Good.
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Actually, it's called the articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, and it didn't have unlimited taxation, didn't have a standing army, didn't have supremacy clause, didn't have implied powers. They had to have unanimous agreement on doing things. And so it was sure. It wasn't perfect, but it was better for the people and the states, and that's what had to be changed. So I was wondering thank you for asking that question, Joan, and, thank you for chumming me up, Samuel.
[02:13:28] Unknown:
That's alright. I always think about you. You know, the the fact of the matter is, Murr, there would have been war between the states, individual states, if there wasn't an arbiter that could stop them from doing it. So some some extent, a stronger federal government was a good thing, but it it got taken way out of control.
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Of course. We're we're talking about greedy men that wanted to be kings themselves.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Well, you think the states weren't made up of greedy men?
[02:13:59] Unknown:
Not as much. No. Because they don't owe. They were workers. That's why they weren't even considered in much of the debate. And that's why some of the ones that were good left the debate. And what did Patrick Henry say? There'd be civil war within a hundred years. I mean, he wasn't wrong.
[02:14:19] Unknown:
Well, there's that little thing there called Elliott's Debates, which is a I think a five or six volume, seven volume, collection of the debate within the states about the con constitution. So including the articles of confederation that were in it. And But nobody wants to talk about that. When was that written? Oh, I think it was something like fifty years after it was compiled by Elliott. Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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So we have
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They're the documents from the state, just the the arguments they had about the different clauses and this and that. And, you know, I mean, there is it's it's misunderstood like everything else, I think. I I think, you know, I agree with a lot of what you say about it being greedy men, but there were greedy men in every state, and they were at odds with each other. You know? The survey and stuff like that wasn't even good enough to to decide where the boundaries really were. So, like, the Delaware line, that was one of those things that was fought over. And, I mean and they to even get in there and survey some of it, the Indians would attack them and because the Indians didn't want them on their land. They'll screw your survey. You know? You're you're putting lines down on our land. We don't give that. There was all kinds of stuff going on that we can't appreciate. You know?
Samuel.
[02:16:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of if you can, draft an argument based on religion, in order to, you know, show the state that you're choosing not to do something, that is that is valid. Because when the when the pandemic occurred, my sister who lives in Pennsylvania, she was being required by her her work because she works in a pharmacy to get the shot. And so I drafted a document for her, based on religious grounds. They can't force her to do this, and it worked.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Jim Ram did one for his wife too, and I wish we could get our hands on that. He drafted, because she was a nurse, and they were trying to eliminate her from her job if she didn't get the job, and she didn't wanna do that. So, he worked on a document for her, and he had actually had that document before COVID and just reinforced it after. A b Jim was really good at this stuff, and it'd be great to have a copy of what he put together if we could ever get a hold of it. I don't know. I'm sure his wife has it, so I know Brenda has contact with her maybe. Maybe we'll get a copy of that someday.
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Randy Lee says it's the right of visitation to be heard in the matter.
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Yes.
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Visitation.
[02:18:03] Unknown:
You know, I wanted to say too about the, Masons and the the invitation to the thirty third degree. Well, I know of a couple of people at least that had that invitation, and the requirement was they couldn't be an atheist and they couldn't be a Christian. They had to, swear allegiance, I guess, is a good word for it, acknowledge the architect of the universe, which is Lucifer. Okay? So there you go.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
Greetings, Murrah. It's lady Linda Louise. Did you say architect of what?
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The architect of the universe. Oh, not. Another name for this is
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but Mel, but he don't he don't make nothing. How he's the architect?
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Don't ask me. It's their rules.
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That's what He's the great cop he's the great copier or forger.
[02:19:08] Unknown:
That's what the cremation say, I think. Right?
[02:19:13] Unknown:
That's their rules. Let me see. Michael Rivero, Sephardic Jew and very bright. When he learned he was, he's there was no dealing with him after he learned he had an I high IQ, I guess. His parents didn't tell him. And I guess in, community college, they tested him, and so he's been anyway, he's he was in there, and that's what they told him, and so he dropped out. But he considers himself an atheist too, which I guess he still does. Fetzer used to consider himself an atheist, but he now considers himself a Gnostic. And I learned yesterday, Sam Andrews, doesn't believe in Christ's divinity.
And, I always, you know, ask in prayer if I should call in and to please give me the words. And if my heart starts beating faster and he tells me, yes. You must call. I know there's something coming up. And that's what came out on air. So
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so That's I'm surprised it's asked.
[02:20:16] Unknown:
Be good to go for the know how high. You know?
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Wow.
[02:20:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But there's a lot of people, and they back it up with scripture, but you're taking things out of context. He also says Christ says, I am. Like, when they said they're from Abraham, what did he say? He says, I am. Right? From before Abraham. He was at creation. You know? It the the whole Bible is like a love story about him. The Old Testament, he's the prophet. In the New Testament, he's the priest. And at the end, he's the king.
[02:20:52] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel? Or Sam U L.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
No. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you can go on this lawyer's website, Thomas Rens, r e n z. I believe he has free downloadable, all sorts of exemptions, that were written for people during the COVID time where you couldn't have your job. I don't I think he's got got religious, and I've got he's got other ones. You might wanna go there and download them. You could probably, edit them and craft them to whatever situation you want or edit them so they're, more applicable to you. And I think doctor Brian Artis also has those on his website too.
[02:21:42] Unknown:
Cool. We have examples like that are great to get food for thought.
[02:21:48] Unknown:
I I think Carol Asher over there at RBN, she had been a nun, and and now she's coming up with some crazy ideas listening to Mike Adams and stuff, which also is, denying Christ divinity. And they're saying, you know, but, anyway, they're just saying, you you know, doesn't matter what religion and face it, folks. Religion just means religiously. You do something. Alright? The reason I Belief in Christ is a relationship, but, yeah, anyway, she had done some good work with that, writing about the,
[02:22:23] Unknown:
you know The Go ahead. The re the reason I mentioned Jim Ram is because for a lot of you people who have been around for for very long, Jim used to be part of Roger's show, on a pretty, you know, regular basis he would chime in. So he was also a national. So what he writes would have also come with that kind of a background in it, which I, you know, always look for the value of that in in somebody's thinking.
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I miss him. He he, stopped paying taxes back in the nineties, you know. So he was working on things in his own right too. And, kind of trust set up and his own church and, you know, which automatically his wife, I guess, falls heir to. So, but, let the woman grieve.
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Lady Linda Louise. Lady Linda Louise.
[02:23:47] Unknown:
Yes, Joan.
[02:23:50] Unknown:
Hello. Did you get a what did your passport card cost?
[02:23:56] Unknown:
What was the $30. 30 dollars.
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Oh, okay.
[02:24:00] Unknown:
If you go to the post office and you and your your husband, it will be 35 each of you or $70 just for the paperwork to be executed. So that's why if you go to a different facility, like, I went to the library, Thor went to a town hall. Even if it's two of you applying together, it's only $35.
[02:24:25] Unknown:
Oh, 30 for one person, 35 for a married couple?
[02:24:30] Unknown:
No. If you're a married couple and you go to the post office, it's $35 each just to do the paperwork. It's $30 each for the card.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
What are you doing? Get out of here. Okay. So it's 65 it's $60 per person or $65 per person if you go? $6.06
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5. 6 5. 60 5. Yes. Per person if you go to the post office. Oh, okay. It it's it's just one $35 application fee if the couple goes to a library or a town hall or some other facility. But if you go to a post office, it's gonna cost $35 per person.
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Lady Linda.
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Yeah?
[02:25:33] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, Larry. That's hi. That's a pretty standard fee. It was the same amount here in Jacksonville, Florida. In other words, it's 30 for the card that goes to the state department and 35 to whoever's processing your application.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
Right. But you do you know the distinction between a married couple versus a single going into the post office with the application fee is?
[02:26:05] Unknown:
What is it?
[02:26:07] Unknown:
It's $35 if you go to a facility other than the post office. If you go to the post office, it will be $35 per individual for the application fee. Did you know that, Larry?
[02:26:26] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's pretty standard.
[02:26:28] Unknown:
Well right. But do you understand the distinction? If you wanna save $35, you don't go to the post office. Correct?
[02:26:40] Unknown:
Well, I went to the courthouse, and it was still $35. Well, that's It was $35 at either place.
[02:26:48] Unknown:
Well, it's at the post office for two people walking in. It's not $35 per person?
[02:26:58] Unknown:
I mean, each person's getting their own passport card, so it's gonna be $35 per person no matter where you go is my understanding here in Florida.
[02:27:08] Unknown:
Well well, according to this federal agent, he said if you come to my library where my office is, it's only gonna be $35. If you go to the post office, it's gonna be $35 for your husband and $35 for you.
[02:27:29] Unknown:
And, lady Linda, so the library, the nice, federal agent, it it would you had to pay if you had just gone in there by yourself, it would have been with that nice lady, it would have been $30 plus $30.35
[02:27:47] Unknown:
dollars. 30 5 dollars is the application fee.
[02:27:51] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And 30 was what was the $30 for?
[02:27:55] Unknown:
For the card. The passport card. Oh. Do You have a passport card or just the passport?
[02:28:03] Unknown:
Me? Me, I just have the passport book.
[02:28:07] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So we opted to get the card plus the book.
[02:28:16] Unknown:
Okay. But then that was another whole different price than the 30 plus 35.
[02:28:20] Unknown:
A hundred and the book is a hundred and 30.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:28:28] Unknown:
per person? Correct.
[02:28:31] Unknown:
Total?
[02:28:33] Unknown:
The total was $320. 2 hundred and 60 for two books. 30 $60 for two cards. Right? So that's and then $35 for the, application fee.
[02:28:58] Unknown:
Because I call well, what do you what do you think this means? I I called the university there's a post office on the University grounds, on the University of South Carolina. And it, I called it to to say, how much does it cost to get a passport card? And they said $99.00 dollars.
[02:29:28] Unknown:
That's if you were expediting. It cost $60 extra to expedite. Did you distinguish that you're not ex expediting this, or did you want it expediting? Yeah. Yeah. I said no rush. Not expediting. Well, they they misquoted you. I I I unless it's $30 for the card and $35 is the standard fee for application process. So Okay. They're charging you $65 at that university if that's the case. In my opinion, I don't know. You have to ask specific questions to these people.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
And you're saying they should have they should charge 65 and not 90?
[02:30:12] Unknown:
Correct.
[02:30:17] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:30:22] Unknown:
You're welcome.
[02:30:34] Unknown:
So, Samuel, are you still there?
[02:30:42] Unknown:
Yes. Probably
[02:30:43] Unknown:
okay. So back, my original question were about you said the constitution of 1787. They the founding father the founders had to change it, but they didn't change oh, you mean you mean once it you mean after it was ratified, you mean they snuck in and changed it? I'm I'm because I know they changed the articles of Confederation. I'm just a little confused about you saying they changed that that the constitution was the constitution of 1787, and then they changed that. And that's why we have the the horrible government we have today. But
[02:31:31] Unknown:
when they saying is the articles of confederation is what they changed to to to the to be worse as in the form of the constitution.
[02:31:42] Unknown:
No. Actually, no. They were delegates to change it, to look into changing it, but that was their excuse to just overthrow it.
[02:31:53] Unknown:
Yeah. And and you know what? Froese says they did it in secrecy, and he he says they did it in secrecy to hide it from England.
[02:32:03] Unknown:
They did it to hide it from everyone that didn't want it. Lansing and Yates walked out
[02:32:09] Unknown:
because they can see what was going on. All I'm saying is there's a lot more there that we don't really quite know about what what's going on. And,
[02:32:19] Unknown:
Well, next, you're gonna tell me it was God inspired?
[02:32:26] Unknown:
Well, you say God's in everything, so,
[02:32:29] Unknown:
I guess you wouldn't agree with yourself if I said yes or no. He's in everything, then it doesn't mean that he inspired it. He allowed it.
[02:32:38] Unknown:
That's laugh of God. Yeah. That's laugh of God, see. I'm not Good boy. I'm not laughing. Now you're putting words in my mouth. No. You're not laughing at me. In my mind telling me how I'm thinking and what I'm laughing at. That doesn't work, man.
[02:32:53] Unknown:
Alright. You're laughing at me. Thanks.
[02:32:55] Unknown:
No. I'm not. I'm just I'm not I'm just saying there's there's more than one point of view about what saying there wasn't. Of course. There's many views. There's many people. The first thing I would've said to Joan is is the the corruption in the committee of style is is something I would have put pointed out to Joan. Yeah. And that's a really interesting thing because that came later. We go from yeah. We go from people to states, and now it you could debate is that is that was that a good move or a bad move? I mean, in my legal documents right now, I'm using we the people or I the person or no. No.
One of the people. That's what I'm using. It's, you know, I mean, I think a lot of it is up to the individual and whether they can still leverage their rights or not. But if you don't make a claim and you don't try, then you have no reason to complain.
[02:34:28] Unknown:
Hey. Area code 575. Is that you, Larry?
[02:34:37] Unknown:
No. That's me,
[02:34:39] Unknown:
That's me. That's me. Okay. Well, somebody's leaking in here anyway. The mic's open.
[02:34:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's open, but I got my phone muted.
[02:34:56] Unknown:
Thank you. Oh,
[02:34:58] Unknown:
okay. So Samuel? Samuel? I I I just wanna make sure I understand Samuel opinion.
[02:35:11] Unknown:
Okay. I I had my mic closed because I I was that noise is killing me. Okay. I didn't want So you
[02:35:18] Unknown:
yeah. It was sound like a air air hose was hissing like that. Okay. So, all you were saying is that the constitution of 1787 was doctored And to to make it, so that,
[02:35:39] Unknown:
the Today. The
[02:35:41] Unknown:
was doctored, and that's why we have the bad government we have today. That's what you were saying. Right?
[02:35:48] Unknown:
Well, no. It was
[02:35:51] Unknown:
it it it was a long process of being, taken apart, changed, and I sort of agree with Gross. One of the biggest flaws in the document was the offices of of the presidency was given too much power, and he Gross says the logical conclusion to unrestricted power was a guy like Lincoln. And so it takes us to all the way to the civil war before we really get the big change in the constitution. And when we go from common law into equity, that's not how I see it. Oh. There's a lot of noise out there. What is going on? People got a mute that aren't, you know, providing commentary. So
[02:36:50] Unknown:
Samuel, do you think the, constitution is is still in effect?
[02:36:56] Unknown:
In general, it's in effect to the detriment of the slaves. Yeah. Yeah. They're using it for whatever they want it when it suits them. It's not really in effect as you would expect it to be the normal guy out there thinks they actually, have access to the bill of rights when when they don't. They have civil rights, for instance. Right?
[02:37:28] Unknown:
Those were Do you think, do you think it's partially suspended?
[02:37:33] Unknown:
Well, absolutely. I pretty much think that we're in sort of a martial rule. That's why our courts and everything, like, you think they're there. I don't think they're there. They're they don't follow common law process. There's no there's there is due process, but that process is not lawful. So it's all a a sham, a a scheme to make us think we're free, that we think we have rights, and that's just an illusion.
[02:38:07] Unknown:
And now they're doing what they want and calling it common law.
[02:38:11] Unknown:
Yeah. They're changing that term too. Michael Gaddy came up with them. It's basically coming up their own definition of what common law is. It's whatever they say it is. Right?
[02:38:24] Unknown:
What what makes it lawful? What makes due process lawful in your mind?
[02:38:31] Unknown:
Well, I've I've probably said this a cup a couple of times, but I think to start with, here's a great illustration of something that I was told so many years ago that I couldn't make the connection then because I didn't have the information I have today. But I was out at a country fair, you know, in the summer, and, you know, all the different, you know, booths have their people doing their canning, and there's this and that. And there's a there was a, a blacksmith out there, and he was hammering square nails. And I, I started talking to him about ex just the nails and what he was doing and and this and that. And, he said, did you know that when people were moving into the West, so say around the gold rush time, 1849 ish forward, he said people in Chicago would burn their house to the ground to get the nails because they were so valuable and put them in the wagon with them so they could rebuild out in the West.
And then he said, Chicago passed an ordinance not to stop them from burning down their house because they couldn't. Right? Because that was the autonomy of the person at the time. What they did is they offered them the money of the value of the nails so they wouldn't burn down their house. So they got it in cash instead. That's the authority the individual used to have before all the statutes, codes, and regulations and statutory pleading instead of common law pleading. That's the difference. Because you burnt down your house and you didn't harm anybody else and that was your will to do that, to collect the nails or whatever else you wanna do, your neighbor probably helped you do it. You know?
And it was no big deal because that's the kind of authority and autonomy you had as an individual in this country once upon a time. Try to do that today.
[02:40:57] Unknown:
Why why did whoever say you cannot burn your house down?
[02:41:04] Unknown:
Well, like I said, try it today and see what happens. You know? I mean, you'd have every agency in the world crawling up your wazoo to, fine you, attack you, etcetera, etcetera. Now, of course, if you're gonna burn down your neighbor's house while you're doing it, now you got a problem. Right? But that would have been covered in the common law. You can't do any harm to your your neighbor's property or person, and that would have been the end of it. Right? In fact, I mean, I can imagine a setting in Chicago where, you know, you tell your neighbors you're gonna be burning down your house, so help me control make sure anything doesn't get out of control because I'm just heading heading west here, and I need those nails.
[02:42:02] Unknown:
You know, it's funny here. They're, I wondered why there were so many, like, ramshackle places, you know, even when they move out or whatever or on people's property. And, apparently, the tax code, if you take down a building that's coming down, then you your property taxes go up because that's an improvement. This is where right? So people just let everything fall down on its own rather than, you know, so
[02:42:31] Unknown:
An act of God.
[02:42:34] Unknown:
There you go. Entropy.
[02:42:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:42:39] Unknown:
Nature over nurture.
[02:42:45] Unknown:
Did you watch any of those slideshows yet, Mur, of Eli's?
[02:42:51] Unknown:
No. When I went in there and and was checking, I only checked, you know, once, but, from the archive Internet and clicked on the slides, and there was nothing there. Have you ever heard the problem.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
I once saw them years ago. They were wonderful. I in fact, I I was so impressed with them. I watched them several times. Like somebody else pointed out Welch. I mean, people the old Welch language is so close to Hebrew that they can read Hebrew.
[02:43:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I said something about that yesterday. Yep. But that's not the language, whoever was asking the question was talking about. I forgot what they what they did say.
[02:43:36] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. The it's about a 50 as I remember, about a 50 slideshow and the explanations of the heraldic signs, and he compares them to the the old, tribal, you know, the the 12 tribes. He compares the the heraldry of the country, and, I mean, it's just amazing slideshow. And I guess that was verboten and, has gotten pretty buried. I hope hope we could dig it back out.
[02:44:08] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I've I've seen that on his site or I looked it up somewhere else before too. And this is the thing, you know, we'll say, oh, are they Jew? Are they part Jew or whatever? Well, that's just a term that's, you know, been tacked on and it's derogatory, but yet they cling to it as a power source or whatever. But there were 11 other tribes, including Benjamin. You know? It was just like and, apparently, Germany ended up being the real tribe of Judah. That's that's why all the fuss.
[02:44:42] Unknown:
I mean, Israeli the the the whole country of Israel is pretty much atheistic. I mean, it
[02:44:49] Unknown:
Yeah. It it believe in this thing.
[02:44:51] Unknown:
Israel isn't a land. It's a total fraud. Israel is a people.
[02:45:01] Unknown:
Either believe in Christ or you don't, and they sure as hell don't. There you go. That's it. That's the dividing line.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
That's why I said something. Hello.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Hello. Hello.
[02:45:12] Unknown:
Hello. Uh-oh. I hear our Erby.
[02:45:15] Unknown:
No. It's Jerry. Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad, New Mexico. Oh, yeah, Jerry.
[02:45:21] Unknown:
Hi. Hey. Y'all were talking about that
[02:45:25] Unknown:
passport application earlier. Is the is the 11 or the 82 or, is that a contract between us and them? A contract that we signed is a question. And would somebody look up 15 USC dash one, and explain that to me. And I'll be listening.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
Why would you think it's a contract? You're just applying to get the highest form of identification.
[02:46:10] Unknown:
Right. But you're you're swearing under penalty of perjury when you sign it.
[02:46:21] Unknown:
And I'm just asking. I'm I'm Well, what makes that unusual? What makes that so unusual? It I mean, if you get a mortgage, you gotta sign things truthfully. Look at Leticia James. She's being convicted of, mail fraud and for lying on a mortgage application and a couple of other charges.
[02:46:41] Unknown:
Because she made a contract. Right? She signed a contract.
[02:46:49] Unknown:
Yeah. But you're signing that that you are the person applying for that that identification, that you're not someone else. That doesn't necessarily make it a contract,
[02:47:00] Unknown:
at least in my mind. Okay. That's why I was asking. I look up, 15 USC one.
[02:47:12] Unknown:
Does that have to do with the passport,
[02:47:14] Unknown:
Jerry? It has to it has to deal with contracts.
[02:47:19] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:47:23] Unknown:
And if we're signing stuff under penalty of perjury, we're saying you're right. We're saying that that's us, truly us. But then when they send us that passport, they put it in all our name in all capital name or capital letters. So can you say
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Did you say 15 USC paragraph one?
[02:47:51] Unknown:
Or just 15 USC one. Yeah.
[02:47:56] Unknown:
Once you read it.
[02:48:00] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. 15 USC code one, trust, etcetera, in restraint of trade, illegal penalty. Every contract combination in the form of trust or otherwise or conspiracy in restraint of trade or commerce among the several states or with foreign nations is declared to be illegal. That's just the first paragraph.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
So now say that say that in your own words without reading it. Just say what that says to you, please, Gary.
[02:48:58] Unknown:
Well, let me finish the second paragraph. Every person who shall make any contract or engage in any combination of conspiracy hereby declared to be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony and not on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100,000,000.
[02:49:24] Unknown:
If a corporation
[02:49:26] Unknown:
or if any other person, $1,000,000 or by imprisonment not exceeding ten years. Okay. So in my own my own thinking, my in my opinion, we're signing these contracts under under fraudulent pretenses believing that we're gonna get what we're asking for, and I'm referring to the passport application. Because when I signed my passport and got my passport book and my card, my name was in all capital letters. Well, that's the person that's not me. So they fraudulently under unbeknownst to me in my own thinking, fraudulently sent me somebody that Patty that's not me. Truly.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
May I?
[02:50:33] Unknown:
Come on. Let me yeah. So
[02:50:37] Unknown:
this is Matt, and anytime I'm dealing with the government, they can everything they do, the driver's license, the passports, because they are a corporation, corporations can only contract with other corporations or corporate entities. So what you have to do is just sign it as the authorized representative. Sign your passport book, authorized representative. That's what I did with my driver's license. Debt and you control that all capital letter entity. That is an entity. You control it. You have control over it. You use it like it's your own personal slave, but you don't take on its liabilities. And the other paperwork you have, like your, your your explanatory statements, that's all good. That doesn't change any of that. It's just that you when you're taking that driver's license or that passport card or that passport booklet, you're the authorized representative. That's what you it's like it's like it's like you're an actor. You're playing that role. You're you're you're acting as, you know, for that, and you and you write up a power of attorney.
You get a notarized power of attorney that you can have to pull out anytime. It'll have date of when you did it. You know? You have power of attorney over that. That separates you from that. You wouldn't need a power of attorney over that all capital letter name if you were that all capital letter name. So that's the way I do it. So I know Roger doesn't get into the all cap, doesn't understand it or get it or whatever. But to me, that's how you separate yourself. So with that, I yield.
[02:52:17] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:52:26] Unknown:
So, Matt, would you say signing a, passport signing a passport application is now you're in contract, some kind of contract?
[02:52:39] Unknown:
Exactly.
[02:52:42] Unknown:
That's what Matt says agrees to?
[02:52:44] Unknown:
No. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all.
[02:52:48] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:52:49] Unknown:
I I I'm not saying and when you're applying for something, you're applying you're applying for a passport so you can travel. But you can if you have power of attorney, if they force you to put in the all caps name or apply in the all caps name, well, that's fine too. You have power of attorney. You have power to act on behalf of that entity. You that entity can't act. That entity isn't alive. It's a dead entity. That all capital letter name is a dead entity. But if you have power to act for it, if you're the authorized representative of it, then that takes care of that, and you always have that power of attorney to back up if you're ever questioned on it. They would they try to that's how they get everybody is the what's called Joinder. Get you in Joinder to take on as being that entity.
And most of the entities are created by the government themselves. So so and that's what the securities are Securities are. Over those entities. So so that's the way I do it. That's my understanding and, you know, unless somebody can prove me wrong, that's that's my 2¢.
[02:53:53] Unknown:
Jerry, that, that 15 US code, paragraph one, has to do with trusts, trade, and commerce among the several states. I think you gotta remember to keep things in context. Just like the Bible, you could make the Bible say just about anything if you pull a verse out of context, and I think the same applies to The United States code. You know, this thing is not really dealing with what you're talking about, in my opinion, like, in terms of, completing an application for a passport.
[02:54:36] Unknown:
Right.
[02:54:41] Unknown:
Okay. And I agree with that that person that said that they had only three stars. Alright. So I traveled on my with my card only. My passport card, and it has four stars on it. And, TSA, when I got up there, you need to stand behind this so we can take your picture. I said, no. No. I don't need to. Yes. You do, he said. I said, no. I don't. I'm not going to, and this is all I'm giving you, this card. He took it, and he he scanned it in the first computer, and then and then he he sat there for about two or three minutes, did it again, did it again, and then he called this other TSA agent over, and they whispered something. I couldn't hear what it was.
And then that other TSA said, well, move over there to that other computer. And he went over there and scanned it. He gave it to me and said, go through. And the other people the other people behind me, they all stood in front of that, camera and took their pictures.
[02:56:03] Unknown:
Uh-oh.
[02:56:06] Unknown:
And I'm looking like, I wonder what that was all about. I didn't ask questions. I just went through. And then on my return and then on my return flight out of Denver I went to Denver. The same thing. Kind of the same thing happened in Denver. You know, Denver is a big, big airport, and I handed him my my card. He looked at it and just looked at it and looked at it. He didn't ask me to get behind the camera. He just looked at it and put it in the thing. He took it out and looked at it, looked at me, and he says, go on. And I'm like, hey. What's going on here? I didn't ask some questions. I went through.
But that was strange because everybody behind me got in front of that little camera that they take your picture, and then they, you know and I'm talking there was Because
[02:57:04] Unknown:
10:10
[02:57:05] Unknown:
ten thousand people.
[02:57:08] Unknown:
So how long ago was that, Jeremy?
[02:57:10] Unknown:
Just just this past weekend. Just Oh. I'm, I got back this Saturday. Last this past Saturday. Yeah. And you were saying that's because what?
[02:57:27] Unknown:
That's the story we've been wanting to hear about those cards.
[02:57:35] Unknown:
And I just barely got my card a a week before that, before I took off on that flight. You know? Yeah.
[02:57:41] Unknown:
You you should've told Roger that on the show. That's the stuff we're looking to hear.
[02:57:51] Unknown:
But, anyway, so I I got back and I asked a few of my buddies that have their passport cards cards, not books, and they have only one and two stars on theirs. And I thought, this is straight. And on the back of it, they have an an 03 and a 05, whatever that signifies. I don't know what that means. On the back. But the strange part was the ones was the asterisk or whatever you wanna call them. The one star and the two stars. Asterisk. But anyway, I yield with that.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
So so, Jerry, when you went through this, this story you just told, you you told the first story where they took a bunch of time to go through a bunch of computers to find the didn't know. Was that the first time? Was that first and then the second time, which was faster? Was that the second time? Did you tell them in order?
[02:58:57] Unknown:
Right. The first time the first time I gave him my card, and he scanned it and told me to get behind that camera, and I told him no. I'm not going to. Everybody in front of me was getting behind that camera, taking their picture. And when I got up there, I I gave him my card. He said, get behind the camera. I said, no. You're not taking my picture. I told him like that. No. You're not taking my picture. He looked at my card. He put it in the thing. Nothing. He put it in the thing again, and he called that TSA over and says, some reason this you know, whatever whatever they talked about.
And then he told me to move over to the other the other line or the other thing computer thing. He said, get take a picture. I said, no. You know? I'm not taking my picture. And then he put that thing in, and then he gave he took it out and gave it back to me, and then he moved back over to that other line, to that other computer. And I thought, okay. You didn't make you made me take my picture, and and I got through. And then coming back from Denver
[03:00:10] Unknown:
yes, sir.
[03:00:13] Unknown:
Go ahead. Finish your story, and I got a callback.
[03:00:16] Unknown:
Can you Well, no. Can you take from that?
[03:00:20] Unknown:
Jerry, can you take from that that everything is voluntary? You didn't voluntarily comply with them taking your pictures so they couldn't?
[03:00:31] Unknown:
Yes. I I I could take that from there. But everybody behind me, after they saw what I did, they went ahead and got behind that camera and took their picture.
[03:00:43] Unknown:
Stupid people.
[03:00:44] Unknown:
So, yeah, it tells me that they were just
[03:00:50] Unknown:
could you tell me the story that you're getting back from Denver and what?
[03:00:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, when I when I, went to the airport in Denver, I handed that TSA my card. He he told me to get behind that camera, and I I told him no. You know? He looked at my card, looked at it, put it in the computer, took it out, and looked at it again, looked at me, and said, go through. And I thought,
[03:01:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a comment for this.
[03:01:21] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:01:22] Unknown:
Yeah. So there's this fella on, YouTube, and he used the the, still what's that? I'm forgetting the name already. The, that site that, stills something stills.
[03:01:41] Unknown:
Copper something. Copper moonshine. Okay.
[03:01:44] Unknown:
Like, yeah. It I had a blank out. But, copper moonshine process, and he has a, a really good friend. I think it might have been a family member, And, he was a sheriff in a town and is able to run the passports. And one of the one of the experiments they wanted to try was if there's a do not detain, designation, you know, in the system on a state citizen or national's passport, and they claim there is. They offered a, $100 fee, like, for you for them to run your passport and, and to make sure it has that do not detain designation on the passport.
And a couple of people wrote in the comment sections that they paid it and, come to find out they had that, you know, DND on it. So there could be some truth behind what you're saying, Jerry. He saw something in the system regarding your passport. What exactly it was, we don't know because you didn't question him.
[03:02:59] Unknown:
Right.
[03:03:05] Unknown:
And another thing is probably the same thing that those, officers saw regarding Lisa's passport in California when they set up a one of these, checkpoints with the paddy wagons, and they were detaining drivers. And they let her go, but she never questioned the officers any further as far as what they saw in the system. Didn't she say we need to do is we need to Didn't she to have a student that ask some questions when this happens.
[03:03:37] Unknown:
Didn't she say that they said something about DND and they thought it was for do not detain, but they didn't know?
[03:03:46] Unknown:
I think Roger just assumes that, because I think Lisa said she doesn't really know what they saw, but the officer said something along the lines, I've never seen this before. And I think that's why Roger, assumes it was DND, and, also, Lisa seems to agree with that.
[03:04:06] Unknown:
What I find encouraging about it is Jerry said no, and instead of arguing with him or calling up some muscle, they looked at his passport further. You know? I think that's his card. I think that's, that's enlightening.
[03:04:26] Unknown:
Well, also, they let him through the first his first experience district. They let him through the they let him through without taking his picture because he said no. No to them taking his picture.
[03:04:39] Unknown:
Well and they moved me to the and they moved me to the other line the first time. They moved me into another computer line before they let me pass.
[03:04:49] Unknown:
So, Jerry, both times, the re both, departure and return, they did the same thing. They they let you go right through.
[03:04:57] Unknown:
Right.
[03:04:58] Unknown:
Without taking the picture. That's that's unusual because that just doesn't happen.
[03:05:03] Unknown:
You know, it
[03:05:06] Unknown:
happened to me.
[03:05:12] Unknown:
And like I say, everybody behind me took the pictures that I you know, when I was watching behind me.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
Yeah. They didn't wanna have to stick up for themselves. Just go with the flow.
[03:05:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Maybe.
[03:05:29] Unknown:
Put your line that's longer. I'm I was just curious. So were they about the same moving about the same?
[03:05:37] Unknown:
Moving? No.
[03:05:39] Unknown:
The the, lines that you stood in, was there any difference in how they moved and how fast or not?
[03:05:46] Unknown:
Yeah. After me, it it took forever for those other people behind me to get through. You know? And and both in Denver and El Paso. I flew out of El Paso into Denver and flew back out of Denver back into El Paso.
[03:06:10] Unknown:
And there was there was a lot of people in Denver. So I fly out every year, round trip with my family to go visit my mom, Pennsylvania. And, they have two lines. They have the regular line where you see about a hundred, a 50 people, waiting to get processed by TSA, and then they have a second line for special situations, including but not limited to, like, handicapped people, or whatever other reasons. And we always get to go through that line because I have children with special needs, and, we we just go right through that thing. I mean, we still gotta show our ID, but there are two lines. And if they sent Jerry to that other line, that's because he was under the designation of a special situation.
[03:07:12] Unknown:
That make sense?
[03:07:14] Unknown:
Yeah. It'd be interesting to know. It really would be interesting to know what comes up on their computer.
[03:07:23] Unknown:
And, well, I'm gonna try my passport this year. This is the first year I've had it. And
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Thank you for calling When I go to the line, I'm gonna I'm gonna present it. Information calls are completely confidential. However, your call may be monitored and recorded.
[03:07:39] Unknown:
Confidential.
[03:07:40] Unknown:
In a few words, tell me how I can assist you.
[03:07:43] Unknown:
I tried to get on, Kroger feedback to get my loyalty points, and it wouldn't let me correct what I was putting in. And it told me to call you. Somebody's unmuted.
[03:08:00] Unknown:
If she tells us her Kroger number, we can get some free groceries.
[03:08:04] Unknown:
Alright. Nice. I I love some Krogers. Anyway, that's all I have. Thank you.
[03:08:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna try this experiment this year. I'm gonna present my passport. And if I see anything unusual go on, I'm going to be asking some questions, so we'll see what happens.
[03:08:31] Unknown:
What month are you going?
[03:08:35] Unknown:
July every year.
[03:08:38] Unknown:
Oh, goody.
[03:08:44] Unknown:
I, went ahead and looked up the Elliott's debates information, and that was, first published in 1886. I think a lot of people have that belief that the the constitute constitutional convention was the final say. No. It had it. It had to go out to all 13 states. Rhode Island didn't even show up for the convention, but the other states, all they needed at least nine to agree with the new constitution in order for it to be ratified. It took about a whole another year of debates within the states to get them to agree, and that's how we got the bill of rights. I mean, that was one of their concerns that there was a change. So there was changes made during the debate process and bad things too. Like, the Southern states didn't wanna lose their property called slaves, and that's one of the reason that that gets put in the constitution and it's allowed is because they wouldn't have ratified.
If they couldn't keep what they considered their property, something they paid for, as callous as that sounds, that's, you know, people wanna condemn the constitution.
[03:10:11] Unknown:
I think you're ignoring the Northern states and there's slavery.
[03:10:15] Unknown:
No. The primary amount of it was in the South, and they weren't gonna ratify because of it. That's in the debates too.
[03:10:23] Unknown:
Jews Jews in the South had played. Thank you, Joan.
[03:10:30] Unknown:
Hey. Can you guys hear me?
[03:10:35] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[03:10:36] Unknown:
Oh, hey. Hey, guys. I was just looking into that TSA thing. I googled it. If you can refuse your picture being taken at TSA, and it said, yes. You can refuse to have your photo taken at the TSA checkpoint. The process is voluntary. And the TSA requires officers to respect your traveler's rights to opt out and then simply tell the agent you do not wanna have your photo taken and then they have to verify your ID by studying your ID and looking at your face. So what could have happened is they moved him to another line because he was clogging up the first line by refusing to have his picture taken. So they just moved him over, studied his ID, and let him go. That's just a theory.
But it's interesting that it's voluntary.
[03:11:25] Unknown:
Yeah. TSA said that it's voluntary that came from TSA?
[03:11:29] Unknown:
TSA? No. I googled it. I Googled it, and it said it's voluntary, but the TSA agent has to respect your wishes if you choose not to. But the interesting thing is there that it does prove that that most everything is voluntary.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
So I wonder what else is in that traveler's bill of rights.
[03:11:49] Unknown:
But why would they move them over to the other line? Why didn't the, agent just say, okay. Go on right through. He's right there.
[03:11:57] Unknown:
Well, I think probably because they're they're used to everybody complying. And so when somebody doesn't, then they have to stop the line, get them out of the line, go ahead and, like, reverify, make sure his ID is legit, look at his face so so they can keep people moving through the first line. That's just some speculation.
[03:12:19] Unknown:
Well, that is true to some extent. They do rush you through that line. I mean, they want you to have your your ID out ready to go, and they kinda get a little bit frustrated when, you know, you don't have all your ducks in a row, especially if you have drink bottles you didn't throw away.
[03:12:36] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I mean but it would be interesting to find out more about how to see if the passport card does say do not detain that. I would pay a hundred bucks for that. I don't know if there's any place in Colorado that would do that.
[03:12:53] Unknown:
But anyway Who
[03:12:59] Unknown:
who who would you pay the hundred bucks to to find that out?
[03:13:04] Unknown:
Probably the agency that ran the card and looked it up for you.
[03:13:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Larry just told a story about some place that he knows that'll do it in Florida, I guess.
[03:13:17] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
[03:13:19] Unknown:
The only reason I can think of that they would wanna photograph everybody that got on the plane is in the event of a crash so they could identify the bodies. However, it's unlikely to assume that a living, breathing photograph would even remotely resemble the mush of biomatter that they might scrape off the side of the plane, so why bother?
[03:13:45] Unknown:
No. They have hungry databanks. Yes. That's a new currency, data.
[03:13:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I think they're taking your, your eyes, like, the shape of your eyes, you know, because each person is different. Your telemetrics is called?
[03:14:05] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. They're definitely taking biometrics for, facial recognition.
[03:14:11] Unknown:
I think it's called irrediology.
[03:14:13] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Biometrics.
[03:14:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know if they iridology, that takes a much closer examination for a scan of the eye to be able to figure that out. Right. Probably, the image data, like the full face biometric data would be. Right. Right. Yeah. Make more sense. Mean, they get a close-up they get a close-up shot of your eye and they analyze it, and they got every single every single hue, every single vessel, and every single shape, and they use that in iridology,
[03:15:02] Unknown:
which I think is an amazing assumption. The edge of the iris around the pupil, the way it opens and closes, it tells you so much about person's health and everything.
[03:15:12] Unknown:
Absolutely. I would love to learn more about that. The only thing is I don't have time. I'm just saying. Anyway, I was gonna take the stream down, like, forty five minutes ago.
[03:15:31] Unknown:
I was happy. Well, we've got all this on record now. You can you can, present it to, Roger.
[03:15:38] Unknown:
Hey. If, Jack's still listening, so let me just say this before you take it down. So the site is, night take take what this guy says with a grain of salt because he obviously didn't follow Rogers' process. He followed Copper Moonshine, and he is into all of these, like, methods, if you wanna use that word, to discharge debt and all kinds of stuff, buy cars and get credit and different things like that. But as far as this checking if your passport has a do not detain designation on it. I think that's pretty legit. But his name is t a q u a n e, space, x, Taquane x. And if you'll go on YouTube and type that name in and then do not detain, he has a video on it, and you could read about it there.
He may have done some other videos. I haven't listened to him for quite a while, and I think that video came out over a year ago. So I don't know if he's still offering that service, but maybe that's something for someone to look into if they're willing to pay a hundred bucks. And I think he gives you a printout. He actually gives you a printout, and he shows a picture in the video of somebody. May it might have been his own where it shows do not detain, but they for the hundred dollars, he has his friend sheriff, uncle sheriff, or whatever run the passport, and they give you a printout of what it says on the inside of the system, on the backside of the system about your passport card.
[03:17:20] Unknown:
Okay. Interesting. I'll look up Duquain X on YouTube. Not sure if I'll send him a hundred bucks, though, but it's It's,
[03:17:29] Unknown:
I'm putting it in both chats, the, conference call and the numeral two radio ranch dot
[03:17:38] Unknown:
It's been serval
[03:17:40] Unknown:
And I'm not as a disclaimer, I'm not endorsing anything except that might be something to look into if it's legit. If if you know, because he does have a sheriff looking at this stuff and, you know, law enforcement's pretty legit. So
[03:17:56] Unknown:
How long have they been photographing people at airports? New to me.
[03:18:04] Unknown:
At least a year.
[03:18:06] Unknown:
Oh, really? Breathe and not to fly. Anyways, it I looked up being photographed More more than a year, ma'am. Generally, legally in this country, you can refuse a photograph anywhere.
[03:18:21] Unknown:
We know what Steven Whitener has said that he'll be traveling and just to get funding for whatever he's doing. He says gigs, so I don't know if it's music or anyway, it'll say it requires a photograph right then and there, and he'll have to pull over and stop and take a photograph and send it in. I guess that's a security.
[03:18:47] Unknown:
The only, the only problem with that is if you're in a public place, if you're in a public venue, there is no reasonable, expectation of privacy. So if somebody wants to take your picture out on the street, they can do it. You can't stop them because you're in the public. You don't want your picture taken in public than scarf, dark glasses, hat, cane, and walk with a limp.
[03:19:38] Unknown:
I don't think you can refuse your passport photo.
[03:19:42] Unknown:
No. And I think that has all the biometric data they need for your face. I yield. Exactly.
[03:19:50] Unknown:
How does a lamp Paul, how does a lamp help with the scars and the glass sunglasses?
[03:19:56] Unknown:
It just further obscures your, your identity, your, your body weight composition, your stature, height, weight, all that stuff.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:20:15] Unknown:
Your laptop and your smartphone is always taking photos at you.
[03:20:24] Unknown:
Well,
[03:20:26] Unknown:
I am looking at three cameras Oh, where you're coming at? Monitor
[03:20:30] Unknown:
and one camera and a display on a laptop that I'm sitting in front of. So I hope they got my good side.
[03:20:42] Unknown:
But if you tape up that camera, I guess they can still take it right through the screen, can't they, if they want to, bad enough?
[03:20:52] Unknown:
There are, like, particularly with smart TVs, there are ways to reverse the polarity on some of the pixels and actually take a picture of everything in front of the TV.
[03:21:07] Unknown:
I don't have one of them, so that's good.
[03:21:10] Unknown:
Welcome to 1984 Oceana, the super mega totalitarian super state.
[03:21:21] Unknown:
Mhmm. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy listening to my, and talking to my my, thermostat on my wall in my home. I have a thermostat who answers by the name Alexa, and that thermostat will play me music, answer questions, all kinds of stuff.
[03:21:43] Unknown:
Try to make it sing sometime. They don't like to sing.
[03:21:47] Unknown:
Yeah. And before you too.
[03:21:51] Unknown:
I would never have any kind of crap like that in my house.
[03:21:55] Unknown:
Make you feel like a congress critter with your ATAC minder.
[03:21:58] Unknown:
Samuel, that's a companion. You need a companion.
[03:22:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. In front of the a companion.
[03:22:06] Unknown:
In front of the spreading oak chestnut tree, I betrayed you, and you betrayed me.
[03:22:15] Unknown:
Alexa, sing happy birthday.
[03:22:22] Unknown:
Anyone know where that line came from?
[03:22:27] Unknown:
Alexa, cancel. You suck at singing.
[03:22:32] Unknown:
We don't.
[03:22:33] Unknown:
Alexa, cancel.
[03:22:36] Unknown:
Damn it. Sounds like I don't know where that line was from.
[03:22:40] Unknown:
Tell us. I have an idea, but I'm not sure. You tell us. It was in 1984. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. You know, I didn't go to schools that required you to read this garbage. Thank god.
[03:22:54] Unknown:
I didn't either, but it was told, you know, it was recommended back and forth grade, and then I finally made a chance to read it.
[03:23:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's like Jessie Sabota, our, Aquino and Brennan, came to their house when she was a child, and they called it a reading club. And they were reading To Kill a Mockingbird, so she couldn't wait till she got older to read that book. So it's like I don't know what they were deriving out of it. It's just an excuse. But, yeah. Anytime they have it in the curriculum, guess what? It's predictive programming.
[03:23:37] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. Well, now that we've got, the business of the day, the show, the after show, and all that stuff taken care of, it's, time to put this guy to bed. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you so much for joining us. You can find us right here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer on Global Voice. You usually catch a little bit of the after show. Our website is thematrixdocs.com where you can find links to join us via free conference call and join us live on the show. You can find links to Eurofolk and Global Voice. You can find downloadables, exhibits. You can find, interviews, all kinds of valuable information on that website.
Thank you so much for joining us. We will catch you right back here tomorrow for the Wednesday edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye now.
[03:24:56] Unknown:
Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:25:02] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Welcome
Changing the World at Radio Ranch
Reflections on Past Guests and Connections
The Importance of Knowledge and Teaching
Defending Rights and Belligerent Claimants
World Politics and Current Events
Exposing Hidden Agendas
Historical Perspectives and Government Critique
Speculations on Political Structures
Environmental Concerns and Corporate Responsibility
Upcoming Interviews and Networking
Passport Application Experiences
Listener Engagement and Community Building
Freemasonry and Historical Insights
Constitutional Discussions and Historical Context
Religious Arguments and Personal Freedoms
Travel Experiences and Passport Observations
