In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses the intricacies of jury duty and the power of jury nullification, emphasizing the importance of being informed about one's rights and responsibilities as a juror. The conversation delves into the differences between common law and statutory law, and how understanding these can empower individuals in the legal system. Roger also touches on the historical context of jury trials and their significance in maintaining a republican form of government.
Additionally, the episode features a lively discussion with listeners about the challenges and opportunities of participating in jury duty as a national, with various callers sharing their experiences and insights. The conversation highlights the complexities of navigating the legal system as a national and the potential impact of informed jurors on the justice system. The episode wraps up with a reflection on the importance of spreading awareness and education about these legal principles.
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Attach the rich, feed the poor, and tell her on old Thank you, Alvin. Thanks for the introduction. We would too. We're gonna take another swing out here today on the May 29, just about at the end of the month. And, Roger Sales, your host here. Of course, the radio ranch, the title of our little get together. And, we have friends. Yep. We sure do. We got friends that help us extend our reach. And one Paul Beaner is the one that starts them and, knows them and all that stuff. So we bring Paul out and, so he can identify them properly because I would butcher it. No doubt. And, so that we can give them proper recognition for their assistance.
Their help, and all the love that they give us. Right, Paul? Well, absolutely.
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Lots of love. Yes. Rats are rats are rough. But we're wishing WDRN productions Rots are rough this morning because they have not connected yet, but, I'm looking for them. I'm looking for them. So Slept late. Probably slept late. Oh, I don't know. They're three hours behind I am or or me or two hours behind me. There's plenty of time to sleep, I guess. Oh, okay. Well well, no. Actually, it's only 09:00 there this morning. So okay. That works for me. We are, however, on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink. Follow. We we're on eurofolkradio.com.
Thanks to pastor Eli James, amazing guy. Lots of lots of patriotic activity on that end of the fence, and we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, the matrix, d 0 c s, Com, where you will find links to Eurofolk. You will find links to Global Voice, and you will also find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. We've we've got about a thousand spaces available, so come on down. There is no waiting.
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Oh, but pretty unusual for Alan not to be there. So, hopefully, they'll tag you along here or, hopefully, on the other end, there's nothing substantially wrong. So anyway Internet's been real weird this morning. Yes. Yes. We've been going through those little pauses here lately.
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Yeah. Well well, computing computing has been weird in general because I I had, no end of hiccups this morning, and I wasn't able to sort them out until, like, fifteen minutes before showtime. So, he might be dealing with the same thing. I don't know. Okay. Could be.
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Never know day to day these days. Just lucky to be able to have it and, to be able to do the amazing things that we do here, like me sitting in the high range of the, Andes, about 8,000 feet up and on a beautiful day, by the way, and, broadcasting all over the world. I remember you probably remember us talking about this, but one time when I was still in, Argentina, Patagonia, I was in the very upper reaches of Patagonia with the area they call Patagonia. And, Brent was on one of his trips to Alaska and was up there in the Matanuska Valley above Anchorage in Palmer, Alaska in that area. And, he was connected through a laser beam Internet, and I was all the way in South America. We had a fabulous program.
So just interesting what we can do these days. Boy, I think back to my youth, you know, and the the ways that we had to communicate and whatnot. Anyway, feeling a bit better today still. I'm on the tail end of this stuff, but I'm still mucousy a bit. And, boy, I sure could have slept this morning. I could overslept this morning real easy, Paul. So I get up to, Harrison this morning, and, I don't know of any great events that happened yesterday that I can think of, you know, in the afternoon. And but, it's all Israel, Iran. Israel, Iran. Israel, Iran, this morning, anyway, that I've been exposed to. And, God bless Harrison for having the balls as a young guy, to get up and be as out front as he is on his thoughts about Israel and to, nail him, basically, which he does. And, God bless you, Harrison.
I sure hope they don't screw with you. I think he got swatted in that period there about a month or two ago when they were swatting everybody. I think he got swatted because he said on the show one morning, he said, even if I did, I wouldn't tell you about it and give you the satisfaction. And then I heard other people alluding to someone getting swatted. I think Harrison and his young family got swatted. As I've said, and I'm in a perfect example of these sorry, lying, thieving, call themselves Jew bastards, make their own worst enemies.
Oh, look at the Palestinians, and, they just make their own worst enemies, and then they continue to, here here's a good example, Paul. The, lately, you've heard, oh, who's that little creep up there rasping? Yeah. God. What a little jerk that guy is. And, some of the others are going, well, you just wait till when we get back into power, and we will. You're gonna pay for all this. What do you mean? They're trying to undo what all the communist bastards did in four years. You're gonna have a hell of a hard time undoing it. They they were so fanatical and and and repotting. They're fast about their stuff. So, anyway, that's what they're saying. We get back in the power. We're gonna get you for what we did to you the last time, and you have the gall to undo it.
These people are the sickest pieces of crap on the Earth, and, I don't have any problem calling them out. I know without a shadow of a doubt that they will not mess with me, and they won't attack what we do. First of all, they can't because we got them cold. Okay? And secondly is they don't wanna bring any attention over here that is already coming. We're I guess what I see and hear from Paul and Dave and Kaye and some of the other folks were increasing our exposure pretty dramatically, I guess. There's people from all over the world coming to the website, including the UN. I guess that's good news.
And, but they'll never mention my name. I can get on here and call them every dirty name under the book. Beg them, plead. Boo. Please, please put me on your hate list. Number one with a bullet, please. Man, they won't touch me. They won't touch this information. That's gotta tell you what we got right there. If you're of the intellect to realize those sorts of things and to know these guys the way some of us do. So, anyway, that's still the big deal. I feel like, Hillard Block, you know, a hundred years ago. By the way, he was, I should plug that video again. A Goy's Guide to History.
And he was talked about quite a bit in there. They had a whole little segment on Hillard Block, and he he was a a prolific writer, a Catholic writer, a hundred years ago and intellectual. And, he's the one that wrote a book on the Jews. And in there, he said the Jewish problem is the world's biggest problem those hundred years ago. Today, the Jewish problem is the big world's biggest problem. Hundred years. Just just just more intense. And, so, you can go to if you'd like to see that, it really nails these guys. And I'll tell you, I gotta Paul, have you ever listened to E. Michael Jones?
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Couple times.
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A guy is an incredible, incredible, learned individual, first of all. K? And he's got the he's got these guys nailed and comes right out. They they're very well of him and, we're aware of him and, his attacks. They don't attack him too much anymore, that I hear about anyway. But, boy, he's got them nailed. And if you'd like to see and hear their influence on the whole historical scene, you can go to I'm sure it's posted in probably Rumble and BitChute, but I know it's on BitChute, so that's the one I'll, refer to.
And just put it in e Michael Jones, a whole plethora of shows will come up. But right there at the start is this two hour, Goy's Guide to History. And, it goes and shows you history as slanted through the influence of the Jews. And, boy, it's, it's really something I I would encourage all of you, especially if you've got a interest in this area to go, put a couple hours into listening to that. It's exceptionally well done, and I'm just totally the more I listen to him, I'm just really impressed with his recall. Was your is there, like, a sucking sound? Is that the giant sucking sound Ross Perot told us about here or what?
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I know. Got there, Michael. But The name of his book is all these things, I believe.
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Who, e Michael? Bella. Oh, Bella. He's he wrote a number of books. One of them was called The Jews. I had a copy of it. Copied copy of it. But, yeah, he he showed some pictures of him. He had a nice looking young man. Very, a lot of people called him anti Semitic, and he goes, I'm not anti Semitic at all. You know? But, anyway, these things are worth looking into. And he he Michael Jones has got one thing for right. The the the Catholics have been dealing with the Jews a hell of a lot longer than, the the Protestants have. So he's kinda derogatory to Protestant and Protestantism, of course. He calls them white boys that don't go to church anymore.
E. Michael, why the hell would I go to any of those churches? They're all corrupt as hell as the Catholic church. You're trying to tell me the Catholic church is not corrupt? I mean, come on. But he's correct, and they've successfully dealt with them for years. And it's just very interesting. That's something like I said, if you got any interest in this issue, boy, that's a that's a good, research reference thing to fall back on. Otherwise, in that, I don't know, particularly of anything substantial to start the show with this morning. So what I'll do is just turn it around and lay it on the audience. You know, audience, we're here for you. That's why I'm here. Not just to run my mouth, but to try and help you get free and answer your questions. Hey, Rod. Hey, Rod. Be and before we do that Okay. Well Give me the title of that book. Boys.
No. It's not a book. It's a video.
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Well, the
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What was it?
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Rick, the Heller block block. He wrote a number of different books, Paul. One just one. He was kind of prolific back then. Way things are or something like that, he said.
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All these things. That's,
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Andy Hitchcock referred to it in his book.
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Did he? Okay. Wonder how Andy's doing. I hope he's doing alright. Last heard, he was taking care of his mom over there. Good guy, Andy. Kind of in our circles here because him and Paul have a good relationship. Okay. Well, I was gonna open up the the mic. Somebody wants to say something. Two of you were almost premature. I did. One. Good morning, Dave. There was another one. I'll get you in a second. Good morning, Dave.
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Good morning. Que Pasa. No. Que Pasa. Just real quick. Pardon me? Go ahead. Que pasta. Que pasta. Que pasta soup pasta. Ah. BNBN. Anyway, last night on Liberty Tree Radio man, what a treat. Mark Kornke, you know, he normally takes a 07:00, break for dinner, seven to eight, and then comes back from eight to nine. I never had a full background on him, and he did a a simulcast with quite frankly on on, Rumble.
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Yes.
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And my gosh. If you guys don't know who Mark Kornke really is, that that two hours was, oh my god. It was riveting. I was on the edge of my seat the whole the whole time. So if you go to libertytreeradio, dot, libertytreeradio.4mg.com or .org, you can, you can listen find the replay number because they you know, it's I don't know if you can listen on the computer or not, but there is a, FCC replay number. I don't have that memorized, but it's the whole four hours by phone. And it you really wanna hear the last two. And, if you go to Rumble, I think you can only hear the last hour because that guy show didn't start until I I don't know if I'm right or wrong on that. But, anyway, Mark gave I mean, from the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, and and then where they ended off was when he got sent to prison for illusion or eluding.
They didn't, I thought he went to prison because they tried to nail him with the bank robbery. They did, but they didn't. When the bank was being robbed, Mark and his wife were driving by. It's in it's a one horse town where he grew up, where everybody knows everybody. So it was his bank being robbed. And the lady calls 911 and says, oh, you know, the bank just got robbed. And, where'd the guy go? They said, oh, he walked across the street, and we're watch everybody in the bank is looking out the window watching him. He's walking right into the sheriff's department right now. And they said the 911 said, was it mister Kornke?
And the lady's like, what? Mister Kornke? No. Mister Kornke? No. It wasn't mister Kornke. And and Mark was driving by with his wife when it was happening. And I'm telling you, then he and he he said, I know a lot of people. So they're these people, sheriffs and and, you know, whatever, they're all telling them what's going on. And I don't know the whole story, but next time they're he's on that show, it probably won't be till July, they said, but he's gonna start from there, and and do another two hours. But you guys gotta hear this show. I can't give it credit, who Mark is, where he started, and and what he's really done in his life for America.
This guy is amazing.
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He really is. The audience. Much of the audience doesn't even know you're talking about really, Dave. I don't think. Yeah. Mark Mark from
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Mark from Mark from Mark Warren Keith. He is the father of the militia movement, and they saw this coming. See, Mark was in intelligence in the army. And I was told the guy who introduced me to him, 88 year old organic farmer, you know, knew him well, he told me it was infantry. And, and before I go too far, infant tree, that that was they were sending infants, our babies, to go die in the front lines of every war. They came up with that infant tree. That's where the infantry comes from, sending our babies to die for these freaking Jew wars. And, I mean, it's disgusting, and it's still happening today. Anyway, I didn't get that one from Mark, but, yeah. Mark, Mark started the militia movement because of what he learned in intelligence and Rex eighty four. He lived it. They were training.
He he his class was 33. There were 33 men in his intelligence class, and he was thirteenth in that class in scoring. And that 33 men still today hold the highest scores ever in that, you know, whatever they did. And, you know, and he's like, wow. He didn't realize the geometry there, thirty three and thirteen. You know? And, he commented on that when he said it, but he, they were living in Rex Eighty Four and that's when he started this. Mark has been buying surplus military gear, like helicopters, planes, five tons, two tons, track vehicles, trucks, anything besides f fifteens and nukes.
He's been buying that stuff by the pallet load for over thirty years, thirty four years. And I'm telling you, he's got, like, 20 camps up and down Michigan that he talks about daily on the shows. K? The cost to go train. These are training camps for militia. They come from all over America to go train in his camps. The entrance fee is two number 10 cans of food per person in the car that come to his camp for the, you know, three or four day weekend to train on how to be a militiamen. And he feeds you, he houses you, he entertains you, and he trains you. And this guy is just I don't know anybody like him. He blows me away. And I'll tell you, the my first experience with him, my friend had given me the number to call into his show maybe three years ago.
And I when I finally got around to it, I was blown away. I'm like, my god. This this this guy for real? I called up John Stattmiller. I was the last caller on his show that day. And and I because I had heard John, you know, people talking about them two guys working together. John was in Michigan. They did a lot of work together. They started Internet radio. They've done the incredible stuff together, but so I I never heard him tell any backstory about Mark. I said, so, John, tell me is Mark Kornke for real? And and, oh, man, you should have heard. He says, well, Dave, I don't know, Dave.
You're gonna have to ask him that, Dave. And I says, oh, wow. Okay. I get it. He says, oh, do you Dave? What do you get Dave? I says, John, it's quite obvious that you got a a burr under your saddle for this guy, and you're not gonna tell me nothing. And I can't remember what he said after that, and we hung up. And no sooner the show end, my phone rang, and it was John Stattmiller. And he was screaming at the top of his lungs at me, cussing that m or f er blah blah blah. He blamed me for him getting arrested. He said I turned him in.
Well, you know, I said, I'm gonna have to do a little more research, aren't I, John? And, he banned me from his show again. He did it, like, three or four times, and then he, you know, let me back for whatever reason. But, I talked to a couple of people that knew John and knew Mark. And, well, my opinion of John dropped a little bit there after I talked to some some folks that y'all know and love. You know, and they kinda clue me in. Anyway, Mark is an amazing man. He's been in our home, and, I can't say enough about the guy. So, anyway Wow. Check it out. Libertyradio..org is is the easiest way to get there. Yesterday's show, at least the last two
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hours. So it's not on the is the is Liberty Tree the show the network or the station that he's on regularly? Yeah. Daily Daily Show. Julie. Roger, his daily show is on
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libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's his original show. And then he now has libertytreeradio.0rg, and that's Monday through Friday from Yeah. Five to seven eastern. He takes an hour break, you know, between seven and eight and comes back eight to nine, and then he's on shortwave the last hour. I think it's six point one six o, on that dial, the planet. It's the planet.
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Yeah. Well, he's been around a long time. I'm very privy to this. Years ago, when I was still a puppy with this, I was working with Lynn Horowitz, helping him sell his book anytime he was in the Atlanta area. And, they put on a show, an expo, whatever you call it, out at a place in Austell, Georgia called the Thread Mill Mall. And I got to meet both of them. They're standing right there by my table. Oh, Mark and John. It was all yes. It was always Mark from Michigan, and Stap Miller somehow hooked on to his coattails. And so it was John and and Mark. And then somehow, there was always a lot of conjecture about this in the movement.
Yes. Al Mark, who was supposedly a janitor at a school or something
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at No. He was the maintenance supervisor at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
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Okay. Well, he was some kind of involved in that. It was his job. And, all of a sudden, he got thrown into prison for seven years, wasn't it, Dave? Yes. Seven and a half years. And and Stap Miller got to go on off, and they bought the software for the radio network from, a magazine called Media Bypass. They were trying to start a network. They got frustrated with it. Stad Miller somehow bought that equipment and carried it down because Alex was just starting to, to to make big waves and get attention. And I think John wanted to just hook himself to anybody's coattail that was a potential star.
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I think that Mark and Mark and John put Alex Jones on the air for the first time after that TV show.
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Well, they were fun. He was already he was already on the air in Austin. Anyway, John He had a he had a
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TV show.
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Alright. On on p on public broadcasting, whatever. Yeah. And so Yep. John tried to hook himself to Alex, and what you got, there's two big egos. And that wasn't gonna last but about ten seconds. And then they were always having a pissing match on the air, slinging arrows at each other and all that. And finally, Alex got smart and quit doing that. But, yeah, there's a lot of background history of this, and people wonder how did Mark get thrown in jail, federal prison, I guess, or state prison? One for seven years. I'm
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pretty sure it was federal, because of they were gonna try and pin this bank robbery on him, but then what they got him for was eluding.
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Whatever. That's part of the watered along under the bridge. The question was, how did Stap Miller sneak off unscathed from all that and go start a radio network? That was always the question surrounding Stap Miller. And now our buddy, Tom Dee, is running that operation over there. So there's still a lot of questions even though Stap Miller's dead and gone. Now, Julie, Hold on. Let Julie hold on. Julie's been wanting to get in. You're all fine.
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I was just gonna I thought I was just gonna read the number first. Female. If sorry. If anybody wants the number, it's (667) 770-1524. And it's Room number 957464 Pound. Right. That's for Liberty Tree Radio, and it's very good.
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Okay. Now the fellow that was trying to get in there. Sorry. A minute ago. It's Samuel. Ah, Samuel.
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Yeah. There's Paul, guys like you may have heard of these two names. There's one's called Sam Anthony, and the other one is called Kevin Hoyt. Are you familiar with either of those guys?
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You asking Paul or me? No. Not me. Well
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well, let me let me give you just a little bit of bio on this guy.
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I am.
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Sam Anthony is the founder and CEO of Niko Ventures Inc, a company that aims to establish a media platform dedicated to uncovering the true the truth without censorship. Sam Anthony, over two decades of experience of online media industry, has been pivotal in designing and implementing technology that has enabled journalists to transition into the digital realm. Okay? And then there's this a Kevin Hoyt guy. He seems to be an eighth generation Vermont, activist. And he, I think, owns this place called yournews.com. What Sam Anthony is coming in with his expertise is to get that platform bigger than, say, Reuters by using citizen journalists.
And it's gonna cover the local venue as well as the national and international. And what you can do is you can sign up to be this journalist. And you can invest in being this journalist and mister, Anthony's expertise will take be able to take this and raise the millions of dollars through it, publicize it, and grow it into and until it becomes a, a public offering in that 75 to a hundred million dollar area. So I was thinking and I sent out about a dozen links to a lot of you out there if you look for it, Paul. I I sent you a couple. If one of us could get in there and promote what we're doing, this could be a good venue, I think, for us to get this message out.
Okay.
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So, Julie, you said you knew something about these guys? Yeah. Yeah. I know, Kevin Hoyt really well. I have his cell phone number, and, I could get a hold of him. He's out of Vermont, and, he actually it's really funny. He sued, all of these commissioners in Vermont, and then he looked them up and found all of these, side bit LLCs that they had. Several of them or a couple of them were child sex trafficking. It was just disgusting. He's very smart.
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From what I understand, this Kevin Hoyt, who is this activist, is inviting in this Sam Anthony because of his expertise in funding and laying down platforms in in digital media to be able to grow the power of the citizen journalists. And he he he was interviewed today by Dave Hodges.
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Yep. I know. I subscribed to him.
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Red State Radio. And, it it's a it's worth looking looking into. So I like I said, I sent a bunch of links out to different people.
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Yeah. Dave Rogers also I subscribed to his, YouTube channel, and he's great too, but I could get a hold of both of them.
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So, Roger,
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would you
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with Kevin Hoyt. Do you think you'd be up to doing something if I mean, look. I if somebody comes you ever heard me turn down an interview, Samuel?
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No.
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Well, this would probably have to be a little bit more ongoing, but I don't know. You know, it's I just wanna throw it out there for food for thought, and I sent that link out for people to be able to take a look and sort of investigate it.
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Where's that? What no what what conversation is going on in the background, Paul?
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Let me, check active speakers. Jesse.
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His mic was open. Okay. Alright. We'll close Jesse's mind then. Okay. Samuel. Yeah. I mean, I'm open to any of that stuff.
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Well, you won't get censored and and and set aside. You know? It's and he he this this Sam Anthony guy says, this is basically gonna work what like YouTube. It's gonna be the eighty twenty. You know? There's gonna be 20 that are really gonna come to the forefront and generate. And and plus, if you sign up and get into this thing, I think you get revenue ads and stuff like that as well as you would like on YouTube. So, you know, it's it's really beyond my understanding of what's really going on here. So Yes. I just wanted to throw it out there for people like Paul who could take a better objective look at it. You know?
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Well, I've never turned down an interview that I know of, and I'm always willing to talk to anybody that really wants to listen. And, well, I just hope I'd say if that does come about, best laid plans of mice and men, you know. Well, maybe if that does get account, we'll, we'll citizen journalist,
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and he interviews you.
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That's that's okay. I don't care. Makes no difference to me. It just, to get the information out and hope that we get a better response than we did out of Jeff Rents' vast audience. Now and I've thought about that. Now I think about that quite a bit. It crosses my mind, and I just I'm I'm it's just a big question to me. Why? Not even one person coming forward from two shots, two hours on a big platform. I mean, it's huge. But we know that Jeff doesn't have any spiritual spirituality to him necessarily, and, maybe that conveys and transfers to his audience. I don't know because that's still that's still alien encounter.
Yeah. I should've said that. I probably would've jumped all over it, but maybe that's the way his audience is too. I don't know. I'm just kinda still surprised by that. There was a female there. Who who was that? One of our gals.
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Well, I had a comment.
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Well, hold it. There was a a female that said something I thought or am my hearing going to? I guess it is. Go ahead, Paul.
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Mhmm. I'm guessing I don't know. Must have been me. Maybe I slipped into falsetto or something like that. I have no idea. But, no. I think Jeff Rentz has a spiritual side. He does talk about that on on some of his shows.
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So I think he's a pretty spiritual guy. But He was a he's a reform he was a brave Catholic. His father was a big time chef in Los Angeles at one of the restaurants. Yeah. One of the big time restaurants. I don't know which one.
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Well, I I think it's likely he stepped away from the Catholic church, but I don't think he stepped away from the people together.
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Well, I you know, he doesn't have much of a from what I've over the years, it's just, I've heard him pay in Christianity, and I don't think he has much spirituality at least the way we would look at it. But he might I might be wrong. Anyway, I do know this. To my knowledge, not one person has come out of that those two appearances, and that's kind of freaky to me. Yeah. But whatever, it just goes to show you even more. What I keep trying to tell you is everyone's not gonna be receptive to this message. I do not know why.
I would think they would all be interested in freedom, but they don't appear to be is my experience over many years.
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Well, they've I think it a lot of our roadblocks come from people have been studying and researching this, that, and the other thing, and all of the interconnected dots, and all of the deep dives, and all that stuff. They just cannot believe that the actual answer can be so simple.
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I mean I do I do know that's true. I've heard that comment a number of times. I understand it. K? Yeah. But then you roll across somebody like our dear our our our little little lioness here, Julie. I mean, Julie enough of this stuff from the very first time that we ever spoke on the phone years ago. And so, obviously, she's the right kind of person. Larry's the right kind of person. You know, you can tell when it resonates with somebody. And some folks, it's just they ain't got a chance at any resignation. I don't know why.
But if that's their choice, conscious or odd, then then I'm alright with it.
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Yeah. I I think there's a fundamental difference on how this information is presented as opposed to all the other stuff. The other stuff, there are, countless months of study and research to figure out what happened by going down the rabbit hole. Well, here, we tell you what happened.
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That's right. Yeah. And then
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the the months of research that follow ours is how it connected,
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how they actually pulled it off. We tell you what happened right out of the gate. Or or or getting rid of all the crap that's been compiled and piling up back there. We'll get that out of your subconscious if as much as we can, and replace it with good information that's true, that's proven, and that's empowering. The other information is not empowering because it's not true. It it it might you it might empower you. You think you're being empowered, but you're on quicksand. It's not a solid foundation.
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Yeah. So, anyway, I'm They are rabid. They are rabid about what they believe in the dot state. Oh my god. And the Try and tell them. It's the emotional investment, Raj. It's the emotional investment they have in everything that they've studied and researched.
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They're, I mean Invested in it.
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Oh god. They're invested in
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it. And trying to get them to let that go. Yeah. Listen. I know I've been doing it for years, and it just frustrates the pee waddling out of me. I always try and go back to Mark Twain. It ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so. And the other twin, twin quote from Mark is it's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled. Both of those apply to that situation right there.
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Right. Well, we're also trying to tell them fool.
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Yeah. They just let that soak in if you hadn't heard that before. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. Why? Pries.
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Right. But just try telling them they've been fooling themselves with what they thought they knew.
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You may laugh at this if you hadn't been out talking to people about this stuff. But if you get out and talking to them, you'll you'll pretty well find what Paul Meyer talking about is accurate. So if you're one of those gotta learn themselves, go do it. But that's all those things are the formidable parts of spreading our message. I mean, I've told you many times that that first time that I was on Joyce Riley's show, well, hell, man. I thought this would go through the country like crap through a goose. And it we got a little traction for sure, but poor old Joyce, even she went to her grave not understanding it. I was on there three times.
Some folks have and that that could have been me. I I couldn't explain it as well back then. I'll certainly readily admit that. We've come a long way, in that department since then. But regardless, she just never got it.
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Question.
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God bless her soul. Yep.
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Do you think the dot, the actual dot that's standing in our way could be simply pride?
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Well, it's human nature of some sort. I'm just not sure of all the components. Pride is the one that because a man doesn't wanna say he's wrong when he especially when he's been one of these folks that's boistering about it and boisterous and trying to go and show you, and then you go, no. That's not right because, blah blah. And then they get, you know well, they get a burr up their saddle there under their saddle, Paul. Right. I don't know. I just know that makes all those like Dave here and and and Julie and all the others that this information does touch makes you real important. Yes, Dave?
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You know, this psyop that they've been working on us for a couple hundred years is very deep and profound. And, you know, the buddy I know in the assembly, he's he calls it systematitis. And, you know, it's hard to break loose of that. You you quote a lot. You know, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think. See, a horse is smart enough to know when he's thirsty. But then you can lead a man to the truth, but you sure can't make him think.
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No. You you can you can at least in the direction you want to. In many times, sometimes you can be persuasive. And we've tried to pioneer ways of of of putting this in front of people, simply presenting the equivocation backwards, those sorts of things. And but you gotta come to the realization this was a big shift for me. You know, all my job is is to try my best to touch cross paths with you, Dave, somehow, and to, get your attention enough to tell you I've I've got a choice here that you've got that you don't know you've got and has been hidden from you that will totally alleviate some of your governmentitis and your systemitis as he calls it.
And you put it to them that way. And if they don't want to hear it or don't believe it, then those are their consequences because that's their decision. You fulfilled the Old Testament watchmen on the wall thing of telling them at least the best you could. And if they didn't listen, well, tough cock off for them. You know? But you've been alleviated your responsibility. So when I really internalized that and and understood it and applied it, it made my job a lot less frustrating. Because now my approach I've done my job when I try and talk to you. If you don't listen, it's your problem.
Pray for you. You know? Good luck. All the best. But,
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Kick the dust off your feet and walk away. Go to the next one.
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This is one thing I have learned. You cannot force this on people. There ain't no way because they'll never do what's necessary to make it fulfilled. K? So it's a that is a, that's a I'm beating my head against the wall because it feels so good when I stop situation.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. Frank was unmuted there for a minute. Frank, did you wanna speak to him? Something?
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Oh, Frank. There he is. Okay. Frank seems a little shy. Anybody else, got anything they wanted to bring forward? Julie, you're usually one with something to say. Yikes. Roger? What's this Roger? It's a slow new it's a slow news day. Yes, dear.
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Well, I have something else that that I sent, I sent, Kevin Hoyt a text message, but, I want I have something else. Did you hear what the Libtars and Leticia James is doing now?
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Oh my god. No. I I don't know if I've heard of the latest. I heard that she's coming out and saying she didn't know what she was doing or some bullshit.
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There's the Liberty Justice Center and a coalition of the libtard state government have filed a lawsuit to block the tariffs that Trump has. They're doing everything.
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Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's about 10 twelve twelve different lawsuits they're trying to do on that, I think. I did this is something I wanted to talk about, though, that I was really pleased about. Did anybody see, judge Janine sworn in last night?
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I did.
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I'm really pleased about that. I like her. I I think they wanted to get rid of that other guy, Wilson, and they got this gal instead. They may be sorry they didn't take Wilson, because the way Trump handled, he moved him up to an even more important new job that oversees the whole country, including DC that you can go into. And now they bring in judge Jeanine underneath to take that d's DC a a g position. What a sharp gal. She had her family with her. Her she had a beautiful daughter, I thought. And, it was just a really nice ceremony, and I'm pleased to see her in that position. She is a pistol, judge Janine. I bet you they can't find one negative thing on her to bring forward, Julie.
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No. I like judge Jeanine. I've I've watched her on Fox over the years.
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So good for that. You know, another one of Trump's good appointees. That his problem right now seems to be they've got the leverage put on by the Jews in the in the Congress, not only on the house but certainly in the senate. And, that they're always gonna have some retaliation point, and that seems to be what it is right now. By the way, I heard a list of these national injunctions, Julie, of of the presidents all the way back to Bush senior, I think, of how many of them they had during their presidency. And it was like ten, twelve, for 12 for Clinton, so much for Bush junior, sixteen for Obama, sixty four for Trump.
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Yep.
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Yep. So, we may hear that's one thing. We should be hearing some of these big, Supreme Court decisions from this term come out this week and probably even more so next week. And the reason for that is because at that point, June, I guess, they take their vacations, and they don't come back till the October. And that's, when they reconvene. Joe, how in the world are you doing this morning?
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Well, I have to call you on it. It's an opinion, not a pleasure.
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Okay. Alright. I won't get you saying that opinion. Okay. Well, yeah, you know, these these, these things are are conditioned very deeply in our minds.
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They are. And words matter. You say it.
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So, but, I mean, they they've got a controversial thing. It comes up to them. They talk it over and go in and decide and write their own opinions. Okay. There you go. Opinions. Collectively, it's referred to as a decision. I'll try and I'll try and clean up my language, Joe.
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Words will change the paradigm.
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Alright. Well, you you know, and and the reciprocation of this is you've gotta go through twenty four hours and not call money currency or call currency money, whatever.
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I will do my best.
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Yeah. And and and Joe's right. The words we use create a reality. And it's, they've done a masterful job of this. God spoke Undoing it. I'm gonna tell you what, undoing it undoing it is a real challenge on a mass scale. What, Paul? What was your comment?
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God spoke the world into existence. That's correct. Yep. Words.
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Yep. They do. So, let's see where else can we, go this morning. We're not even to the halfway point yet. Now Allen never did join us, did he?
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No. No. He's he's having, satellite and Wi Fi issues. The Internet's popping in and out.
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Okay. Well, unfortunate. It's the times we live in. Yes. So the judge Jeanine thing, I was very pleased about. He has picked some real, real good staffers. Of course, the one that is, I guess, you could say by far leading the pack would be Robert Kennedy junior. He's just kicking ass and taking names, that guy is. Of of of of Tulsi Gabbard, somewhat right behind him. I was sorry to hear. I mentioned it on the air a while back. Just heard it on the show. She had nominated somebody to be one of her close underlings there, and he was a two or three veteran, you know, decorated military guy.
But he was absolutely against Israel, and, he got taken out of the nominations. So with all of the obstacles they've got to face, she's still doing real good. Roger. The the jury is still out on Kash Patel. I was I heard somebody get you a second. Samuel asking yesterday if he was a Christian. He goes over on, Chase Geyser show or something. And they said they didn't know. They thought he was Christian. He's not. He's a Hindi, as is Tulsi Gabbard. They're both Indies. Yes, Samuel.
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Yeah. I just wanted to point out that this this Sam Anthony guy, you know, he's he's basically running the web system for, Amazon, which you might say is somewhat successful. He was pointing out the numbers on the traditional media right now. He looked at Fox, which is top of the heap. He says in the category where there's a hundred million potential viewers in that age group, he says they have 386,000.
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Yeah. I was gonna say less than a million. Mhmm. There's he says their numbers are so pathetic.
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It it's gonna be very easy for this true, like, citizen journal ship movement to take it over completely.
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Well, it's kinda already is a big go ahead.
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Well, there's there's really there's he's talking about all of the other ones that are out there. The Dave Hodges is, you know, the Mike Adams, etcetera. He's he says, those can be players in this. But he says, it it's going the way they're gonna set this thing up, if you wanna know what happened at the basketball game or the mean, I mean, I was quite impressed by the what this guy was saying.
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The concept. Well, as a concept implementation on something that minute takes a while, good on him. The whole thing's been building. Look at the, press corps at the White House. In fact, there was talk I heard Chase mentioned it the other day. They were talking about, giving InfoWars a seat up there for a month. And maybe they could chase guys or the guy that that could do it. So I think Alex is up there right now, but he's up there partially at the DOJ with his they got a big hearing next week on the ninth about the Infowars, and they've caught the DOJ and Bloomberg in just all kinds of sleazy crap, as you'd expect with these bunch. Yes.
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One of the things that he says has been an obstacle, and he says he has himself in trying this in the past has failed himself. But now he sees how to do this to to get over the funding issue. So when you become a citizen journalist in this organization, you're actually buying shares in it, and you're feeding this whole organization. And he he's raising millions of dollars by doing this, and then in time, he will take it public. I mean, it's Okay. It's
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pretty interesting stuff. Well, it's a big, it's a big idea and a big goal and more power to him. So yes.
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Oh, there's a Yeah. Roger. Understand. I just before we get too far, during Tulsi's, con confirmation hearings, she said she was a Buddhist.
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No. I heard her say she was a Hindi.
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Well, I heard her say she was Buddhist.
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Well, we both heard different things. Let me look that up. And the reason I I note that Hindi is because I I did hear Kash Patel say he was a Andy, and both of them said that Andy's Yep. I heard both of them say it, but whatever. Okay. He's a, a far an eastern religion. Let's put it like that. You're right.
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Roger's right. I I heard them, being, Hindi too. And the wife of, the vice president, she said make sure of Hindi and Catholic.
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The oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. JD Vance's. Man, I'll tell you what came out yesterday that came out that who was running the whole White House. Anybody hear that? Who was really running the show and had a mask, tons of power? Nobody heard that. Yes, Roger. This is you did, Larry. Right?
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Yeah. It's, this Anthony Burnell. I think that's how you say it.
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Yeah. Bernell. That's Bernell. And his his position was?
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He was an aide, and he was at the top of the the pyramid there. He's been involved in various democratic.
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He was he was Joe Biden's chief of staff. So it wasn't Biden's chief of staff. He was her chief of staff running the whole thing from the shadows. This is the way your enemy works right here. Just like when George Bush w was the president, Cheney in the was vice president. Chairman president. He was running the country. He didn't have let that doofus Bush up there. So the I point that out because this is the way they work. It's for your edification and information.
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But that's it, Larry. Yeah. He's, but, his involvement goes all the way back to Clinton. He was involved with the, the Clintons and their administration and also, Obama and, of course, Joe Biden. And, he's also being called the business husband of, I believe her name is Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife.
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Yes.
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And, there's also talk about how he has been selling the Auto Pen behind the scenes.
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Yep. Him and Clang, who was Biden's previous. He didn't make the whole term. He resigned about halfway through. Ron Clang is the guy's name. He was, fingered with that also. So, this hopefully, we're moving forward. I think the congress is already about to hold hearings on the auto pin fiasco. And, folks, that may be one of the biggest the biggest events of treason in the history of the country is this auto pin fiasco.
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We'll we'll see. Calling it the biggest scandal in world history. American world history.
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Well, I I don't I'm not sure that I doubt it that I would question them on that statement. It's huge. And, of course, now the Democrats are throwing out all kinds of, red herrings. You know? Oh, we're we're looking to the who had the cocaine in the White House and all those other peripheral like we could give a damn. We wanna know who was running the the strongest country in the world from behind a curtain with an auto pin. So whether how much of that information we'll get, I don't know, but at least the importance of it seems to have registered with Trump. Put it that way.
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They're calling him the, the Wizard of Oz behind the curtains. A lot of the a lot of the lower staff that worked around him.
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Yeah. Yep. Well, I I can see it's when I I heard that yesterday, I thought to myself, well, it just fits perfect on how they set things up. And that's how sneaky these guys are. They're never gonna give you the obvious answer in front of you. So, anyway, another good thing, judge Janine and and the, advance Hey, Roger. Oh, well, look. There's Bob. Hey, Bob.
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Yes, sir. I don't know if I I heard Jesse calling, and I had to get I can't it got towed away. I'm I'm not sure. He may have already brought this up. The difference between Hindu and Hindi.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know the difference of that. No. Well, Hindi is a language.
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Hindu is a religion. Hindus may or may not be Hindu, and Hindus may or may not speak Hindi. So
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well, both of them in my I know Cash, and I thought she both of them said they were
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Hindis. Their word. No. No. They would have said Hindu if they were, in fact, of the religious persuasion because Hindi is a language. Okay. It's the major language in the subcontinent of of, in the subcontinent of India. It's the dominant language. I think most of their government. Most everybody knows Hindi like they would know English in America. I I had to cough when I said that. They used to because it's kind of the default official language, but then there's, like, 13 different states that have their own dialect. And my goodness, in within those states, it's just everywhere. You've got hundreds and hundreds of dialects.
But Hindi is the dominant governmental language.
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Okay. Well Yeah. Bob, you're right. It's Hindu if he's, a believer in Hindu. And it's, 1,400,000,000 people and 800,000,000 are Hindus. But both of them, I have read and I saw they call them they, they're religiously I don't know if they're just circular Hindus or real practicing, but they identify as with a religion Hindu.
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Yes. Okay. Well, that's dump my memory of what they said in the senate, but maybe somebody maybe go look it up. But, anyway, that they're they're of a foreign religion. They're of a foreign religion. Hey, Jesse.
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Yeah. A few minutes ago, you know, one of the reason people don't hear the truth is, the truth would never will be popular. Never in anything. Spiritually, economically, socially. That's why it doesn't bother me, once people don't hear no more. And the truth is, usually, it's fear, fear, pride, and greed. For the upper end of social class is greed. They don't if they're think things are going well for them, they're not gonna hear us. And for other people, they don't they just fear of changing our or something they don't understand. And a lot of them, like, usually the one that has a career title, that pride, that you know something they don't know.
And, you know, let let me let me read you a passage on one little if I find it now. It says, and with all wicked deception for who are perishing because they refuse to love the truth. Yeah. And then it says, therefore, god sends them a strong delusion so they may believe what is false.
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There's
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no doubt. People that don't know the truth spiritually or family or or economically or freedom, at the end of the day, they will have a delusion, and they will believe the false. I And that's what I'm doing right now. Yep. Bobby just came out with, saying that all the investigation of CDC that, all that they recommended that we all have to have the vaccine. Now the new regulation that nobody should get the vaccines. So for those people No. They believe those false things. Now what do they do? Oh, they changed everything. It's too late. They already got it.
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You know? Now they they left the, they they left the recommendation for people 65. That was the only one that he left active. Now for the audience who may not understand what's going on here, Kennedy has pulled the recommendation that the COVID shot be given to all every all age groups and everybody 65. And the reason they did that is because as long as they've got the recommendation of the government that those shots are are are applicable, then the pharmaceuticals have protection. The minute they took the recommendation off of there, they lose their immunity to suit.
Julie. Yes, ma'am. Yeah.
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I need to post in here, the the whole entire interview with Karen Kingston and two other people. She is calling out Yeah. She's showing. She's calling out JFK and so is Sasha Ladipova. He has Sasha Latypova has met with him. She has told him you need to rescind the PREP Act and he refuses to do this. And while and it's all lies. Everything you're hearing is all lies. I'm sorry. I watched both interviews with Sasha Latipova as well as Karen Kingston yesterday and on her substack, and she's very upset. They're trying to poison her. They're trying to get rid of her. They've tried to take her down two times right now, but she says this is a huge biotech war on humanity, and JFK is compromised. And, I don't like him at all, so I yield.
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Hello? Julie
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Julie has always got a contra view and perspective, and I think that's Robbie, isn't it right there? This is Kaye calling. Hello? Oh, it's Kaye. Hey, Kaye. How are you doing? Long time. Okay. I'm yeah. I know. Hi.
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Yeah. May I change the subject just for a moment, please?
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Sure.
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This has never happened to me. I have a call to jury duty, and I'm wondering if anyone else has had this call and how they handle it.
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Well, yes. We have it occasionally come up. You, and there's differing opinions on it. Some people would say go ahead and do it because you've got a a chance to actually, as a juror, if depending on the case, but you've got a chance to really exercise the principle our country was founded on. You know, the that if they're gonna charge and convict him of that, are they gonna get me next? And that's where jury nullification comes in. You know about jury nullification. Right? Okay.
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Sure. Yeah. I've been thinking about I I've been thinking about hello?
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Yes. Do you know about fee yes. I do. Can you hear about do you know about Vija, fully informed jury association? Yes. You might wanna look at that online. That's fijafija.org or com or something. It's called the Fully Informed Jury Associate j okay. Fully Informed Jury Association. And the an acronym is Fija, f I j a. It was founded '30
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That's f as in Frank?
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Yes. Fully Informed Jury Association, f I j a. K. Was formed by the late Red Beckman. He one of our patriarchs of our movement really, and, it was built to take advantage of the jury and your power because they've changed that. See, in the parts of the country and the way under the common law is that you're supposed to decide the law and the fact. And so what they've done now is they've got the process screws to where the judge gives the law to the jury and they just decide on the facts. So they've overwritten that that power of the jury right there.
So you still have the power as one person, depending on the case, to totally nullify that decision and say, no. They're not gonna charge you that law. Basically, tell them the law is not good. So, anyway, it's up to you. There's a lot of people hold on, Dave. Hold on a minute. So there there's a lot of background. There's a lot of background here. It's very important. Some people obviously don't wanna do it for whatever reasons, but, you know, there's a side that says there's John Benson thought that the jury was the only thing left that assured a Republican form of government.
I can tell you we, Harvey and me, one day years ago, and it's some of his buddies because that's how I met Harvey. He was associated with Fiji and was on the radio talking about it. That's how we met. And so we took those little booklets, the little pocket constitutions down to the Richard B Russell Federal Building in Downtown Atlanta right next to the Mercedes Dome and all that right down there. And, we were handing them out to people in the parking lot, and we literally they closed down the Richard B Russell Federal Building. That's how scared they were of that little booklet.
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Wow. Wow. Okay. So if a person did not, want to do jury duty for any different reasons that I don't Yes. Really need to go in for for her. Yeah. But how has anyone ever
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Yes. Well All you have. Have run. Yes. All you Yeah. This is just And and my Okay. I can't hold them back. Go go whoever wants to talk, go ahead and talk.
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Sorry. Before I can Many
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many of my family member, we just signed it saying we're not citizen first name, and we send it, and we never have heard from them again. And this is over a year ago. Three of our past members.
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Now here, what you're bucking up against here, Kaye, is that phrase a jury of your peers. Because since you've changed your political status, you're not peeraged to any of those people more than likely. So, can you sit on that jury if you're not a jury of the of one of the peers? And are you, as a free person, appear with someone who's a serf? We don't have the answers to those questions. But if you'll put your status in front of whoever sent you that jury duty summons, I would imagine you'll never hear from them again.
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Roger.
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Okay. Alright. Hold on. Hold on. Everybody wants to hold on. Everybody wants to talk. Did you get that, Kaye? I did. I did. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Now the the multitudes want to converse with you.
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Roger. So, hi. Good morning. A few people have tried to get on the jury duty because they do wanna participate, but they won't let you because it's a you you have to be a US citizen. So for the ones that don't wanna participate, it's pretty simple. You send in that paper. You don't have to complete anything on it except for the part where you where it says you're not as, are you a citizen, or are you a I don't know. There I think there's an option for a resident. Forget. But that's what I did, and I just sent it in with my affidavit, and they left me alone. They haven't sent me anything in, like, three years or four years.
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Okay. Okay. That's kind of what I was thinking of doing. Alright. Yep. It comes at yeah. Just comes at a anyway, I I have reasons, several Okay. Where I'm not wanting to do it. Otherwise, you're right, Roger. You're right. It's a it's an opportunity,
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but it comes at a bad time. Well, I'll tell you my I'll tell you my friend's jury duty story in a second, but Dave is chomping at the bit to tell you something. Thank you, Rob.
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So, Kaye, when I I got my jury notice, several years ago, I'm I'm legally blind. Right? I don't drive. I got no way to get there, and I didn't think about trying to be a nullifier. Right? A jury nullification. But it, you know, the the form was read to me. First of all, the envelope was not sealed. Nobody signed it. There was nobody's name on it from who sent it. Okay? And then it was read to me and it said, are you a US citizen? Well, I'm not. I'm a national. And guess why the judge has overlord over all the jurors because none of them are nationals. So the judge is the is the the advocate general in that courtroom. And he he even if the jury nullifies the the case, the judge can overthrow the jury and say, nope. I'm ruling this way. You guys are out of here. So in a box. Yeah. You got to be a US citizen in order to sit on that jury in this corporate democracy, and I yield. Okay. Now up, Jake.
Notice, Roger. It's been over five years. Alright. And I don't mind if you ever got one after that, and I told her, just say you're not a US citizen. She never heard back from them. I yield.
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Could you not call yourself a citizen of The United States Of America? Would that not apply?
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Well, they probably won't accept it. They won't pick
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you. Well, that that may be, and and that we don't know the answer to that question, but, it's just a devil's advocate
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position. Yes. I understand. You're there. If you do get picked, you're near in the interview there with all those other potential jurors, you can't lie. They're gonna ask you questions and they're gonna figure out where your heart and mind lie and, you know, sit with this corporate democracy and they're gonna figure out, we don't want this woman on our jury. She's out of here. Are you? Okay? Now I hope I hope you I hope you feel better, Dave. Now who else has got something? The United States does is nothing
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to the same it's not it's not the same as The United States Of America, Roger. The it's the corporation they're participating in.
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Yeah. I understand that. I'm just throwing up devil's advocates to to provoke I gotcha. Work. Yeah. So Woah. We got a breadwinner now. I wish you'd have called earlier, Kaye. Go ahead. Alright. I've been checking people. I've been trying to talk to Kaye for five minutes, but I've Alright. Well, listen. As in, longevity has something to do here since Bob's the probably the except for Kaye, the oldest listener here. I'm gonna defer to Bob to reach you back to Kaye.
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I Well I defer to Bob, but I I Hi. I don't know. Hi, Bob.
[01:15:09] Unknown:
Hello. Hello. Hello. Yes, ma'am. Good to talk to you. I had this experience recently, which is why I wanted to mention it to you. In Florida, it's just a form that comes out. You've been selected blah blah blah, this and that date. Here's your juror your juror number should you participate, and there's 27 different check boxes as to why you can't. First one being not a US citizen, which, of course, I checked. Many others having to do with family status, pregnant woman, etcetera. It's on and on and on. And then there's this little five or six line area to fill out a reason.
Now it didn't actually address citizenship status at all. It was more to do with if you wanted to be excused and, for some other reasons, but I decided to take the to take the initiative, and I just put on there pursuant to, you know, USC eight USC 11 o one, etcetera, etcetera. We all know the drill. And, you know, thank you for your consideration. Would you please take my name out of contention for future blah blah blah? Well, I get a call, and I wasn't home. And it went to voice mail, and my wife says, you got a call from the jury pool. And so I called back eventually, and their their problem was they couldn't reconcile how they said, well, we get our information. We get our our our potential jurors come out of the DMV.
And I said, so in other words, I just simply have to politely decline. Every time this happens, you can't get me out of that system. She said, yeah. I really don't have any any input on that because we don't generate it internally. It comes from the DMV. And what I thought of later, and you may consider I know you're a very articulate lady. I should and I may still, although I haven't. We're in a busy time of the year. I it would be a great opportunity to approach the judge if he was willing. The judge would be it it would be interesting to put forward what's going on because I'll just about guarantee you he has no idea. He's he's judged. It don't mean he's smart. I mean, he's not stupid. He's just uninformed.
And, it would be a good opportunity to get the national status out in front of somebody and even potentially, in my case, to weaponize it and get a a ruling, if you will, from this judge dictating, if you will, that I am exempt, not just that I think I am and not nothing to do with you know? You see what I'm you see what I'm saying?
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Sure.
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Okay. Well, that's all I had. I just thought it was interesting you brought that up because I've just gone through it a month ago. And, I I I know Gary called in, and I have a lot of respect for Gary, but I don't necessarily agree on this point. And he was saying, look, people. You know, we can affect things if you are on the jury. And I agree, but I could have affected things by having my kids in public school too, but I chose not to because I I didn't look at it as the best use of of their education time. I chose to not do that. And I think in this case, in this case, having to be in a pool of some that are not your peers by definition, I just don't see the point. It's a contaminated system already. I'm not really sure.
I can see the idea of of being in there to gum up the works, so to speak, but I really don't take any pleasure in gumming up the works. I wanna change the system. And, anyway, that's my thoughts.
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Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Nick. Kaye has stimulated discussion today. Thank you. Samuel and Nick. Who?
[01:19:25] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yeah. Roger. I I I just wanted to say and I'm gonna throw opinion in there for Joe. I've read I've read a number of of of opinions that say that if you enter that place through the all caps name, the judge considers you noncompass mentis.
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Wow. Okay. All of this all of this lost stuff brings up the past in me, unfortunately, when I was fighting in court.
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Yeah. It would have to be a great experience, and there's there's a a thing called the Chalcedon group in California. They're a biblical group. And a woman in there tells her story about doing this. And, she was like right in the place you are right now, Kaye, wondering if she should or if she shouldn't. And, finally, she sort of got the message from the, from that this was a duty that she was going to perform, and her experience in in the message she left was hard to even believe, which she went through just to stay on the jury. And, of course, she didn't convict because there weren't two witnesses.
If she would have said any of this, she would have been 80 sixed.
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I don't know what that means. 86. Sound you're sounding like Comey now.
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She would have been eliminated off the jury case. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, Roger.
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Yeah. Alright. Hold on. You say, Roger in the distance. Yes.
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Alright.
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Sorry, Paul. Golly. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
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This is this is John from Missouri, also known as ex gentile. I'm Hebrew, not Jewish. I just wanna make sure that's clear. Alright. I used to get called to jury duty every six months for ten years. But when I became a national, I took my paperwork with me, and I gave it to the judge. And when I gave it to him, you know, they they said the case was they sent me a letter the next day saying the case had been canceled, but that's that was three year three year no. That was four years ago, and I've never been called back since. And like I said, it was like clockwork every six months. But ever since I gave them my turned in my affidavit, they've never bothered me or anything, and I I agree with y'all. I think we need to be writing down where there we are not jurors of their you know, peers of their the jury. So
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anyways, I just wanna confirm that. Okay. Thank you, John. Now Paul on the oh, no. Paul. Hold on. I can't get to you, Paul. Hold on. There's a female there. Yes, ma'am?
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Someone is trying to say That might I think she That might have been me just to thank you.
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Okay. Oh, you're welcome. Okay. I don't know. Paul, you better get it in quick, buddy.
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Okay. Well, I really don't have to get it in quick because I do have control over the mute button. But, anyways, there are two systems of law at play here. There's the jury trial, which is administrative procedure, administrative court, and then there's trial by jury, which is article three or common law court. You're not gonna be on a trial by jury. You're not going to you're not subject to the system of law that they are using to decide guilt or innocence. So if you go in there as a national thinking that you're gonna nullify the jury by by making a decision not only based on the evidence or the facts of the case, but also the validity of the law as you understand it, you're gonna cause a mistrial.
Your the judge is going to threaten you with, jury tampering. All kinds of goofy stuff can happen. Alright? You that's not your bailiwick. That's not where you belong. Tell them you're not a citizen. You're not a resident with respect to legal the legal definition and that you have no business being there. Done deal. Okay.
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Okay. That's kinda what I was could tell. You could write them back and say, do you ever hear of the Jim Crow laws? I'm Whitey and Jim Crow. You're Jim Yeah. Question. Yeah. Okay, Joe. What what do you got?
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You know, here I am. I'm near one of the oldest ones. If not well, I think you're a month or two older than I am, Roger. But,
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I cannot understand. Did some am I did I get disconnected?
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No. You're there. Hello? You're there. I Can you not hear Joe? I'm
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I cannot understand
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why
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anyone would not and please let me finish on this. Would not want to serve on a jury because if you two reasons. If you ever had if you have ever been sued and taken to court in a jury trial, and I have seen a stacked jury. In all my years that I have been a registered voter, I have never once been called to jury duty. Never once. And they know I would like to serve because I have a chance if I get on a jury to help defend an someone who might be an innocent person or be wrongly convicted. And secondly, it's a chance for me to throw sand in their gears and bearings.
You know, it might be you getting sued. And if nobody wants to serve, you're going to pay a big price
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in the comment. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Who else for Kaye? Kaye, you're a popular gal. Kaye? Oh, if I may. Yes. If I may, yes. Hi, Roger.
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Could you hear me okay now?
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Better. Let's see. And who who who have we got?
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This is Dave's wife, Pam. So I agree with the man that just spoke in regards to especially all of the people that are on these calls that know the difference, and know the different, the legal aspect and the lawful aspects. And to have that opportunity to go into that position and educate them, I think it would be an honor to be able to go in there and do that. And just, you know, just the little nuggets that you're able to, seed within those, conversations would really give those other people that don't have the education that you all have at this roundtable conversation. I think it would be fantastic for them to learn.
So that's all I had to say. Hi, Yield.
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Okay. Thank you, Pam. Thank you. Now, who else? K. We might have exhausted them.
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Oh, alright. 12 angry men. 12 angry men. Whew.
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Yes. There's Hey, Roger. Roger. Yep. Right. Trying to get you. Yep.
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This this is John from Missouri again. You know, I did I tried that route, and I went in there, and I tried to help innocent people. I stood up and I said, I think the one instance was a guy was, you know, being convicted for drugs. I stood up and I said, I feel my view is the same as Ron. Drugs is declaring a war on itself. And that's how I feel about it. And the guy looked at the guy that was being charged and said, do you want him as a juror? And he said, no. And they let me go. And I tried to help the guy, but they they don't even understand themselves.
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So that was in Vordire,
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Okay. Yep.
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Well, I'm gonna tell you my little story here. Anybody else got something for Kaye? If not, I got a story. He's probably he might be listening today. Actually, he's my Yes, sir. Dear friend. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.
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Roger, Dave, New York. You know, I I I wanna it's so funny I tuned in today because I'm I'm responding to one of those summons or requests, and, they used this all capitalized name. And I'm going to request that they send it using using my name if they're trying to speak to me, the other and and, pointing out that that that is a a deprecated name, an altered name, and, we could even go as far as as requiring them not to, do anything monetarily with my name and by changing my name. But I'm not gonna go that far. I just wanna show them that I'm a kook, and they don't want me.
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Okay. All caps name, which is not my name. You're not referring to a living man. Yeah. Right. Well, you could just say you're a member of FEJA, fully informed jury association. They'll spit you right back out. So, tell them you're a national. There's a lot of things you can do with it. And I think really under the real legal scrutiny is we shouldn't be in there judging them on some statutory crime that we that they couldn't charge us with. We can't be in there judging it for somebody else, I don't think. In the end, it's your decision.
Some people wanna participate. Some people don't. My friend Okay. In, like a son to me in Panama City, Jeff, you may be listening. He listens occasionally.
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And he's never put his paper Robert, it's really hard to hear you. There's so much background noise. Could everybody mute that's not talking, please? There's just so much noise. It's hurting my ears.
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Wow. I don't hear any of that, Dave. So I don't know what's going on there. But regardless, my friend, Jeff, he's like a son to me at home, and, he has not put in his paperwork yet. He's threatened to. And, he got called to jury duty on a murder trial. And it was a case where it was, out in the trailer parks, and there was this the the guy was an alcoholic and boisterous, and he beat beat the little gal up before and stuff like that. And she's a little diminutive thing. And he had a 45 in the trailer. And he had left, and he was gonna come back, and she wouldn't standing in the trailer wasn't gonna let him in because of their previous experience and their argument or whatever.
And so she went and grabbed that 45, not knowing that he had taken it to a gunsmith and had it honed down to a super hair trigger. And in that situation, she accidentally pulled the trigger and killed him. And so Jeff was on that jury. And, and he said, Roger, you wouldn't have believed it. He said, they brought the gun in. They brought a whole thing of ammo in that fitted 45 ammo. And, I had a feed you brochure, a little pocket constitution, and I pulled it out, and they almost went nuts. He said they were more scared of that feed you brochure than they were of people having access to guns and ammunition right there in the same room.
So they they fear this stuff, folks. K? Just to put the some icing on the cake there.
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So cake Okay.
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Wow. Arrive. You you can do it. You can do it. You got a lot of ways to do it. You can send them a copy of your affidavit. Say, I don't think I qualify. I'm a national. Whatever. However you wanna handle it. Okay. But I'll keep it Now I'm I don't know. I don't know. There's an important thing we haven't mentioned. You live in one of the most absolute totally corrupt states in the entire union, Connecticut. I
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I know.
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Roger. I know.
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Yes, Larry.
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Well, hold on. Yeah. Can you go over what the, the Fiji is? Can you go over what the Fiji is, please? No. It's Fiji, F I J A, Fully
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Informed Jury Association Dot Org. I think fija.org is the website. It's called jury nullification. And the fact that you can get in there just like Jeff was in that situation and vote that girl innocent because she didn't know it was her trigger on the on the pistol, and overturned the law under the auspices that if that law is bad and they're using it on him, I might be next. This is the theory that was behind the jury in the, the beginning of the country. So, that this was a Red Beckman FIDIA was started by Red Beckman, one of the patriarchs of our movement, no no longer with us. And, that's what it was all about. It's still in operation. You they got a nationwide organization. You go right to the web and drop their website.
Fija, I believe it's probably .org. But, that's the background as much as I know behind it. I can tell you one thing. I take it damn seriously because as I told you, literally, Harvey and I and a couple of guys handing those little booklets out in the parking lot closed down the Richard B Russell Federal Building 1 day. That's how freaked out they were of that.
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Wow. Even even in our current environment, you think? Because our country seems to be somewhat lawless at the moment.
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Well, I'm not sure this was what we did, that was back in the nineties, many years ago. But, yeah, we're going down the lawless path. That's for sure. Hopefully, Trump will be able to straighten some of it out. But he got he got elected as captain of the ship, and three quarters of the crew won a mutiny. That that's the problem he's got right now. And getting things young, he can command them with the EO, but the people down the bureaucracy that that are loyal to the other side just don't execute the order or screw something up or they sabotage it. There's all kinds of that going on. Now two, three people wanna talk, go.
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This is Larry. I was just following up with another question. Do you think the reason being that that brochure, teaches the, prospective juror that they deter they determine the laws and the facts and the, government doesn't want that information to get out? That that's exactly why. I would
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Exactly. Roger, I have one more right on the head. Yes, ma'am, Kaye.
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Just one more thing. When we did our affidavits, we weren't calling ourselves nationals. That came maybe a year later. Yeah. At It's been a long time. Yeah. But I've not done anything because, you know, I, what I did was right for the time, and it and it's still right. In other words, I so let them decide what I am. You know? They didn't. They didn't object. I'm like this.
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They didn't object. I'm sorry? They didn't object. Not at all. Well, you you're you're clean. You're golden.
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Okay. Not a not a p.
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Yes. Yes. Now is is it Karen k author?
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Yes. It is. Yes. Good. I sent you that Cal Sieden link from it's from Samuel. Oh, high school. On serving on jury duty. If you read that experience, I think you're gonna get a lot out of it. It's pretty interesting piece.
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Great.
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Great. It's a very firm you know, we're the only country in the world that have juries. You know, Larry was asking the other day some of the differences between common law and the law of the city. This is a big one right there, Larry. We're the only ones that have juries. We're the only country in the world, according to Brent, that have juries still. Otherwise, you got tribunals, you know, with one bench trials and people dictating, did you do this regulation? This, that, years. Well, that prescribed it then. Here's the punishment. Bam.
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So, anyway Yeah. Interesting. Roger, they don't have your reason Great Britain.
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Roger, I also sent a link to Paul if he wants to post that article. Okay.
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Thank you, Samuel.
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I I will look forward to reading it. It it'll blow you away. Believe me. I don't think I don't think they do. I think they'll be in trouble. It it it's really interesting. Is there any way to use silver to, set the cord?
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Is there any way to use silver to adjust the cord? If you went in with, yeah, to set the cord, if you, you went in and, you know, because who knows what this trial is about. Right? It's a but, I don't think you know, right, what the case the specific case is. No. If you went in if you went in in chambers and said to the judge, hey. Here's 21, you know Yeah. Grain dollars of of, per the coinage act and, try to set the court as a common court, he would become the trustee instead of being, you know,
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telling telling the law and telling the all the positions and all that. We're we're talking about jury duty here, not a trial.
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Mhmm.
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So, Roger. And the common law, the circumstances can set the court. Those state courts are are wearing both hats. And it depends on the circumstances and the judge's opinion on which path they follow, the law of the city or the common law. Okay? But the common laws in all states except Louisiana. Only one. Now who was trying to say something?
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Right. It was Larry. It says, AI says many countries around the world utilize jury trials with variations in how they are used. Common law countries like The United States, Canada, Australia, and The United Kingdom, which includes England and Wales, are known for their jury systems often used in both criminal and civil trials. However, not all countries utilize juries for all types of cases. Some countries like Austria, Belgium, France, and Germany employ mixed tribunals where lay jurors and professional judges work together. In some cases, juries are only used for the most serious criminal offenses.
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Okay. And they used to have them, but I think all those countries besides us have phased them out as much as possible. So I'm I'm gonna disagree a little bit with AI. K? Yes. The foundation was there, but they're phasing those away. And, so, anyway, you asked Brynn about it on Friday, Larry. So, Kaye Roger? Yes. Samuel? Well, never mind. Samuel's here. Yes, sir.
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Oh. Just a short opening from that article. She's saying here, it says, too few of those called are and eventually serve on the jury are selected because their knowledge of the law. Our current judicial system seems to prefer prefer those who are ready to follow instructions rather than adjudicate true justice based on their heartfelt beliefs. That's their opening. Very accurate.
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Very accurate. Very accurate. They want pliable little well, they can grab you by the little nose and just lead you down. You're gonna say, now this is what you do. Now I decide the law. I'm gonna give you the law, but you apply the facts of the case you've seen to that law. And it's not supposed to be that way. John when John died, Kaye, he was writing a book on the importance and the fact that he thought the jury was the last defense for us having a republican form of government. Other people have had really strong opinions on the jury over the millennia or the last couple hundred years, and you can go read about it if you wanna put that much time into it. Your deal is you don't want to. It doesn't sound like to me like you want particularly to participate in this activity.
And even in reality, I don't think you're right now. I don't think you're I don't think you're qualified to. So I think that clears your conscience even if you did. Yes, ma'am? May say what you're gonna say. I just interrupted you.
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Oh, I was I'm sorry. I interrupted you, I think. Anyway, I I don't wanna go into everything, but, you know, I just have a lot of work right now. Yeah. Lot. Lots. Like, a couple of deadlines.
[01:41:40] Unknown:
But for the audience, just let me if you wanna put Kaye in a nice little spot, Kaye is the one that brought us Joe Lusticka.
[01:41:50] Unknown:
Thank you, Kaye. That's just a good friend. You know, the other thing I wanted to say, there was one time when I called in about grammar and the book that was being used, and I couldn't remember it. Well, I eventually did ask my editor, and it's the Chicago Book of Style, which is used by for you. Yeah. And so, anyway, that's that's from a long time ago. Many months have gone by, finally going, it's the Chicago Book of Style.
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Is that the same as what they refer to as the Blue Book of Styles, I wonder?
[01:42:28] Unknown:
I don't know. You know, I I don't do the editing, and so I really don't know. I had to ask I don't think it's a a I don't know. I personally, down deep, I don't think so or they would say it now and again. You know? Well, we're just gonna
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It's different. It's different.
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Okay. Those two are different. Okay. Yes. They are. Anyway, that's where you use all the abbreviations and all the what, the capitalization and little things like whenever you quote a Supreme Court case, you always include the year. If the year isn't included, it's misquoted.
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Oh, that's nice to know.
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That's really nice to know. Well, that's why. Because, like, you can always when you hear whatever the decision is, that first question is, well, what time frame did that happen in?
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That's that's why. Are you sure that's a decision, Roger, or is it an opinion?
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Oh, good lord. It's in the book of styles.
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In there, it's in the book of styles. Miss Kaye, I've heard about your your books for years. What what is your pen name, and where would we find your books, please?
[01:43:41] Unknown:
Well, I have a couple. I have three. But I'm only using two of them right now. Karen Kaye is what I write, historical romance, Indian, Native American. And, Ginny Cawthorn is my young adult, pen name that I use for my young adult series.
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And how many books have you published?
[01:44:08] Unknown:
Well, once this one that is, that we just have back from the editor is all edited and proofed and all that sort of thing. It'll be 29.
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Wow. There you go. A bit prolific.
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Prolific.
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Yeah. Boy, if you wanna know somebody that knows a bunch about Indian history and culture, this is the gal
[01:44:31] Unknown:
right here. Indeed. This is this I hate to say it, but it's it's true. You know? Yeah. Right. For certain tribes. I don't know all of the tribes because a lot of the tribes are different. I know most about the Blackfeet, the Blackfoot, the, Crow, the Cheyenne, and the Lakota that you know, but if you were to say, well, how about this these California Indians? I don't know.
[01:44:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Nez Perce, for example.
[01:45:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Nez Perce, what a great tribe, but I don't know very much about them except that they were enemies Gotcha. Of the black skied their I skied their trail. Oh,
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gosh. They have a trail at Jackson Hole.
[01:45:15] Unknown:
You have the Nez Perce? Really?
[01:45:19] Unknown:
Well, it's named after them.
[01:45:22] Unknown:
Oh, it's named after them. Well, they're famous because of, gosh. I wish they had really won. I wish they had gotten to Canada and really had freedom. They were still close.
[01:45:34] Unknown:
Well, I'm not sure the way Canada treated all their Indians, it wouldn't have done a much damn good. So That's true. A travesty. Just a travesty. And I'm part Indian, folks. I've got about my mother was my mother's father, I believe, was a whole blooded Indian. And you know what's interesting, Kaye, is I know from my mother's side of the family there that the family came down the Pea River and settled in Bay County there in the early days. And, and and Dan, Dave and Kaye, who now live in South Alabama, have a piece of land on the Pea River. And they were trying to do research on some of the land around there, and they kept running into my mother's maiden family, the Holly family. I just thought it was really interesting.
You know? So Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And the other day, oh, guess what now? We have a a new listener from up around you, up close to Providence. And in our family history, because that's where the origins of the sales family is, there's a lot of influence in Rhode Island, particularly Providence. And he has verified all that. There's a street one of the main streets or somewhat called Sales Avenue. There's a building at Brown called the Sales Building. There's a Sales Village somewhere, and there's all kinds of sales stuff over in there. So if you and Paul ever take a vacation over to Rhode Island, you might stumble into some of that. And then somebody found George was reading English history and found a very rebellious sales over there that was raising all kinds of hell over there too. So, I come from good stock.
That's okay. Sorry. That's great. It's true. Oh my gosh. It's in the it's in the DNA, I guess. So, anyway, I just thought all that stuff is very confirming for me, but it's very interesting too. And, hey, when you're younger, your background history doesn't mean as much to you as when you get older, I guess, especially these days and times. So, what else what else can we do here, Kaye? Do you have any other questions or other reciprocation? Does anyone have any other answers or comments for Kaye?
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I,
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If I may?
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Yes. You may.
[01:48:06] Unknown:
I'd like to ask Kaye, since she mentioned Joe Lustica, if, she would be able to give out his email maybe after the show.
[01:48:19] Unknown:
You know, I I just need to get his okay first. I I'm happy to do it. I could get I could do it through Roger, but I just wanna ask him first. It's polite. It's the polite thing to do. Particularly Joe day and age. And he's swamped. Absolutely. He's he's swamped. That,
[01:48:40] Unknown:
but
[01:48:41] Unknown:
Yeah. So this is Pam in Michigan, and I did a DOT, and it needed to be updated. And after I did mine, they didn't allow them anymore. So I just wanted to try and find out to get that done. I just wanted to You know, that was the When Go ahead.
[01:48:59] Unknown:
When I'm when I'm done here, I will, email him, and I'll ask him, wait wait a minute. Let me get a pen and paper and take down your name, sir. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
K. Hold it. K. Pam, why don't you just drop me an email at my email address, which I think you know. Right?
[01:49:17] Unknown:
Yes. Well, which one? I I've been sending you things at,
[01:49:22] Unknown:
digital mail. Not Kaye. Not Kaye. Pam. I'll forward it to Joe. I'll I'll take you out of the loop here. Okay? So Pam will send me an email. I'll forward it to Joe. Okay?
[01:49:36] Unknown:
Oh, Roger. That's very kind. Thank you.
[01:49:40] Unknown:
Yep. Okay, Pam. Roger,
[01:49:43] Unknown:
Roger, Joe posted, some links like a playlist for the DOT stuff. So, I can try to grab it right now and then post it in the FCC. And, if if when Joe is on, Pam, you should ask him directly to see if you can, email him because sometimes he doesn't give out, his email. So I don't know if you wanna do that first.
[01:50:11] Unknown:
I'll just forward it to him, and and and I'm sure he'll reach out because Pam has gotten stopped. I I'd like to get clarification. We heard that they've stopped doing it, and then others say they haven't. So I'd like to get some clarification on this because it's a really good remedy on this license tag thing.
[01:50:30] Unknown:
Yeah. And I'm also working on my, DOT, Roger, just, because I'm not planning on using it very long, but just to keep, things safe, when I'm driving around with my daughter.
[01:50:42] Unknown:
How recently did they stop it?
[01:50:45] Unknown:
I don't know, Brent. Somebody came on here and said that one day. I didn't really get the specifics, but it had to be, well, fairly recently, but I don't know for sure. That's the point. We don't know.
[01:50:57] Unknown:
Well, I I thought it was, like, February of twenty four is when they stopped. Roger.
[01:51:04] Unknown:
Paul says February of twenty four is when they stopped.
[01:51:09] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Thank you. But then we've gotten reports since then that, said, no. That's not true. They're still doing it. And I think that was Joe that brought that to us. So I don't know. There's total uncertainty here, and we probably need to get an answer. We necessitate,
[01:51:26] Unknown:
an answer, and Pam's situation could use, some attention. So if you'll just send me an email, I'll forward it to Joe and ask him if he could help us clear this up. Okay, Pam?
[01:51:39] Unknown:
Roger? Thank you very much.
[01:51:41] Unknown:
You're welcome. You're thank you. Yes, Larry.
[01:51:45] Unknown:
Oh, I do. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I'm pretty sure,
[01:51:48] Unknown:
Joe has mentioned, I think, on an after show that the DOT number is not on the vehicle. It's on the person. So even though you put the DOT number on on a custom made plate or however you display it on your vehicle, if someone else was to drive that vehicle and get stopped, I don't think they can use that remedy because it's on the person. And maybe another student can correct me if I'm wrong. Wow. That's well, that's interesting.
[01:52:17] Unknown:
I would thought it was on the you think he's right, Paul? Oh, I know he's right. You I know he's right. Your DOT number is on the person, and it is only applicable to the vehicle that it is affixed to. Dumb. And,
[01:52:35] Unknown:
well, it's That sounds right. The list That sounds right.
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Under DOT authority. But if you don't have them specifically listed as a driver in your DOT application, your DOT number application, then they don't have any business operating under that DOT number. They have to be listed on on your safe report as, named person.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
They can drive the Yeah. They can drive under that number? Now I'm getting confused. Hold on. If you're if they are listed
[01:53:08] Unknown:
on your DOT number on your your DOT number account, if they're listed as a driver, then they can operate under it. But if you're just gonna borrow lend your car to somebody, no. You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna go in there and, like, mess with your account or anything like that. Okay. I think it's a it's a good reason not to lend, something as lethal as an automobile to somebody.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
Never a good idea. Boris?
[01:53:42] Unknown:
Roger, I just renew my number on February. It's not they they not suspend the numbers. I just renew my end. Okay. So you just renew to any card. You could put yeah. Yeah. I renew my and it's not fixed to any card. You could put it in any card that you are driving, that you're going to travel with. I'll be damned. Okay. Well, then do you have to renew it every year? No. Every two every two years.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Every two years. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Thank you, Maury.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
You're welcome. Roger?
[01:54:18] Unknown:
It's Pam. It sounds like there's some disconnect with what you did. And I know Joe early in that. He was setting up a foreign corporation or something working behind that or a foreign trust or something, and I don't think you have to. We'll see. If you'll send me that, I'll also ask him if he'll come back on the show and go over that for everybody when he can because he's a busy guy. He's got a young family. Yes. Who is the female? Okay?
[01:54:45] Unknown:
That was that was me. I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to everyone who who, you know, piped up and told me what they've done and their opinions.
[01:54:55] Unknown:
I really appreciate it. Thank you. Yep. Well, me too because it took up a lot of good time on the show, and it's a good interesting topic. And, it's very important topic. Just jury things, very important. We're damn lucky to have access to it. Can I say one more thing about that jury? No. Duty? No. No. You can't. We're gonna shut you up for the day. Go ahead, Dave.
[01:55:18] Unknown:
So, you know, the reason I mentioned my my envelope wasn't sealed or signed or had anybody's name on it, it it's really meaningless because if they don't certify it, it's not a summons. You know, they give you these threats, these veiled threats, but it's it's all bogus. It's just like the the, what's her name? Missus Robinson letters? Yeah. It's it's just, it's a bunch of BS. So I guess you you know, and they've got enough people that volunteer, you know, to go to jury duty in their system. And I I love everything everybody said about, you know, hey. We would we really need this jury notification stuff. But if it's not a jury of your peers and they're not all nationals,
[01:56:08] Unknown:
it's very difficult to win in that situation. Right? They give you a few wins, but mostly you get losses, and I yield. It's funny. This is Robinson and all these bluff letters they send out. They they pour them and send them to everybody, then all of a sudden, they just stop when they realize they're totally ineffective. Interesting. Yes. There was Kaye and Larry there. Kaye, I'm gonna go with Yes. I'd be careful about, following that advice to ignore
[01:56:34] Unknown:
a jury summons letter because the judge may send the, the sheriff out to fetch you, you know, to arrest you for not showing up. Yeah.
[01:56:44] Unknown:
No. I would all I'm not encouraging you to decide not to respond to
[01:56:49] Unknown:
You proved that you sent it. The the envelope wasn't sealed, and it had nobody's name or signature on it. Come on. It's a veiled threat. And, and mine was over five years ago. Nobody's contacted me since. I didn't even respond. Just threw it away. Okay.
[01:57:10] Unknown:
Anyway There you go. I yield. Alright. Who else? Got a couple of minutes left here, Kaye. Let me say thanks for dropping by, sweetie. I'm a hate that you did it on a problem. Kaye was one of the real early listeners back around with John Kasarab when we first started putting this information out, and you were you were pretty fresh off that beat, and they gave you in court over the house. Weren't you?
[01:57:34] Unknown:
I was. I I don't I don't really wish to ever repeat it again. I was. Still breezy. I would get breath out of it. We just yeah. But I had kept him busy for two years in court. Yeah.
[01:57:47] Unknown:
Yeah. The wounds were still fresh when Kaye stumbled onto us, and, I hope they're healed now. You know, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Right? So as painful as those situations were and are, the important thing is you learn your lesson for them and or turn around set goals from them. Like, I'm gonna beat those sons of Satan bitches, and I'm gonna expose them to everybody I can. They always make their own worst enemies, k. So, that's why we're here. Paul Paul English. He looks like you. Got a house rolling. No? Yep. Go ahead, Kaye. Again?
[01:58:27] Unknown:
After something like that, you look for, people like you who have a message that, you know, that can calm that whole area. Yes. Do you know right after you've after you've experienced something like that, it was two years. Boy, did I come out of there, with a whole lot more knowledge than I went in it with.
[01:58:49] Unknown:
Yeah. And anger probably too. And now you've stumbled on us, and you and your husband have both gotten educated. And and with bit of times gone under the bridge, and, you're Kaye's very feisty, folks, if you haven't taken that from our conversation with her so far today. She's the one that her persistence in in notifying local officials there in her state and, continuing to go to the secretary of state, and they go, well, do you have an account with us? We don't you you owe us money and this, that, and the other. We finally said, well, that's not the place to go. Let's go to the attorney general. So that this that step in the process is all from Kaye. Okay?
So thank you, sweetie, for everything you and hubby have done.
[01:59:37] Unknown:
Thank you. It's good to talk to y'all again. Yeah.
[01:59:40] Unknown:
Well, y'all drop by and see us, but I know you're anybody that's published 29 books, folks, is busy. Okay? And as you can tell, Kaye is There's a deadline.
[01:59:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Especially when there's a things.
[01:59:54] Unknown:
My grandchildren. Grandchildren. Is, is your grandson still playing? Is he playing guitar? Is he still tutoring under, Joe?
[02:00:04] Unknown:
Not now. Not now because he's involved in so many sports.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Okay. Oh, he's a sports kid. Okay. Well, I understand that. Alright. We'll see you at the show, you folks. I hope you enjoyed today and get a little glimpse into the past with another one of our former students who we don't hear from enough. But, these are the kind of people that are lurking in the background that have been touched by this information. And, Kaye, I'll let you agree with me. But would you say it's changed you and your husband's lives?
[02:00:36] Unknown:
Completely. Yeah. There you go. Knowledge it the not just the knowledge itself is powerful.
[02:00:43] Unknown:
Yep. You know? So and they're empowered. Yeah. So well, we love you both, sweetie, and thanks for coming by and visiting with us. And, I hope we got to give you some direction from the multitudes that wanted to talk to you. Otherwise, tomorrow is going to be Friday, and we'll be back with Brent Winters, of course. Yes, ma'am? You got a parting word?
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Just thanks again. And Oh, you're so welcome. Colonized to know that too.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
Yep. Well, this is the kind of family that we build here off this information, folks. And it's a very well, it's very gratifying for me, and, it's just such a it just gives your life purpose. Helping others see the illusion and come out of it gives your life great purpose. And, so I encourage you to do it. Otherwise than that, anybody got anything for me? Roger? Boris.
[02:01:40] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. I just got one more thing for you. Yes. This stuff change your life a lot a lot a lot. I never see so much money in my life, and I even get off from taxes from Amazon, from Walmart. Every corporation, I'm getting off the tax roll, and they assess you with your face of work. Well, good for you, Boris. Thank you, Roger. Thank you. The land of the land of ready, Mark. Hunting.
[02:02:08] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else? That feels good to have changed people's lives, folks. It's a really strong feedback loop. Yes, sir? I posted,
[02:02:18] Unknown:
I posted, Mark Kornke's, interview link in the chat twice Yeah. Okay. Just a few minutes ago. So Alright. Thank you, Brent.
[02:02:30] Unknown:
Mark from Michigan. He's another fixture with the exception of being in jail there for those seven years. He's been part of the Patriot scene since I got into it. Happy to say that I did shake his hand one time many years ago. So, anybody else got something for the Raj? Well, then listen. We'll be back tomorrow with Brent. And, you know, I love each and every one of you, and, you know why. And I hope you understand it. And we'll continue to grow and take it one day at a time. So have a good rest of the one, and we'll see what goes on the rest of the day and what what mood Brent's in tomorrow.
So because you never know. We may talk law. We may talk religion. We may talk the Bible. There's no telling with him, and, I love it. So, we'll see y'all tomorrow with Brent. Thank you, Paul, for everything you do. Paul's got, his gig this afternoon with Paul English and the gang over there. You wanna promote that?
[02:03:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I I actually haven't been sitting in on that show for, like, the last few weeks. Paul English is doing, like, a, a format change where he is having, guests come in and things like that.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Yeah. They mentioned that he wanted to invite me the other day.
[02:03:56] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So I probably I think that's I don't know. That's I may or may not be on there again until you are. So we'll see. Well, we'll find out. I'm expecting him to reach out to me on that any day, and,
[02:04:08] Unknown:
I'm I'm flattered. And I think it's a great opportunity, and I enjoy I just really enjoy doing shows with Paul or just having a conversation with him. He's a delightful, delightful guy. So, anyway, we'll see you all tomorrow. And thank you very much, and I love each and every one of you. Ciao.
[02:04:27] Unknown:
Thank you, Raj. Hey, Scratch. You're falling down on the dinner bell.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
There you go.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
I did want I did wanna mention that, I listened to a short interview with James Colbert Corbett Corvette report, about a fellow who has an organization called You Are the Power. And they got people. They got, kids back from the c CPS, and they also, got the the mayor and the individual on the city council. I don't know if anybody remembers, but, it was a a young lady that had her daughter with her, and she confronted the city council, and they arrested her. They got those the mayor fired. And, if anybody could hook up with them, it would just empower them more with the coming nationals. So I just wanted to put it out there. It's called youarethepower.net.
And there's a short interview with the founder
[02:05:41] Unknown:
on James Corbett report. I yield. And you put that in the chat?
[02:05:47] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:05:48] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. K. Anybody else?
[02:05:56] Unknown:
A question for the gentleman that was, the not paying the tax, the sales tax. Did you notify the the different corporations of your national status, like their law department? Yep. Okay.
[02:06:13] Unknown:
You just you just go up to, like, their customer service counter and you say, I need, I need a form for tax exempt status, And they just give it to you. You fill it out and, have a copy of the, affidavit that you you give with it, and they should, make a note of you in their system that you're tax exempt.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
Because I did go to Walmart, and they gave me a form. It was it was like, the Idaho form was more for resellers kinda. Like,
[02:06:43] Unknown:
But
[02:06:44] Unknown:
Well for, unless there was a space on there, I didn't understand.
[02:06:53] Unknown:
Well, the actual stores are the ones that are supposed to be paying the sales tax. Just they all they all got together and they said, well, hey. Let's let the customers pay the sales tax. But they were the ones originally supposed to pay it.
[02:07:14] Unknown:
Right. So that's why I'm wondering if I have to edit the state form or something, like, to reflect. Because none of the none of the grammar that I could understand in that form was related to, like, an individual unless they were, like, I don't know, handicap. I guess we're handicapped. Right? We're under the ADA. We're we're, we're large we're, all caps, name handicapped.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Well, absolutely.
[02:07:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know who, maybe I could get that form. I'm actually walking to the store right now. Get that form and then read it off to the to the audience and see what they thought. Or was that Jesse? Was that the No. That was Bory.
[02:08:03] Unknown:
Bori, are you still here? Hello, Bori.
[02:08:10] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here, Paul. He's done working. I was listening to him. Hey, Sam. You go to the website. It's a tax exempt, site in in the website, and you fill up the site and send your paperwork, and they're gonna tell you to send a certificate. The the certificate is from your state. You have to go to your revenue department in your state, and they give you the form. You have to ask for the form for tax exempt in your state. You fill it up, send it to them, and all set up with the affidavit, the letter that you sent to the income tax, and, that's it. Three papers. The affidavit, the, letter that you sent to the income tax, the IRS, and then the certificate from your state.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
And it's the State Department of Revenue that you get that form from?
[02:09:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's a you ask your you call your revenue department, and you ask for the tax exempt, form because you're an an astronaut, and they help you with it. They even tell you which form do you need to fill up.
[02:09:31] Unknown:
Okay. So I'll call our our state revenue because they put 6% even on food.
[02:09:37] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:09:41] Unknown:
That's that's rough. I I will talk to revenue. Yeah. Thank you. And that way, I'd make sure because it looked like I would be doing a criminal act if I filled out the forms at the stores, the state forms at the form at the stores have. And even on the rep even on the revenue website, form that I filled out or, print download or printed was the same thing. It was for, like, resellers of stuff and aerospace and all this other jazz. And so I I like your idea there, boy, to call revenue and say, hey. I'm I'm a tax exempt national. You know, what do I fill out and then kinda get it from the horse's mouth?
[02:10:19] Unknown:
Yeah. If you get a tax number from the secretary of state of your state, that just means that the the state revenue department is going to be reaching out to you to collect the sales taxes because you sold something to someone else. And with that status, you have to charge sales tax to the end user, and then that puts the hook on you. Yeah. You don't wanna do that.
[02:10:48] Unknown:
Right. George?
[02:10:53] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:10:54] Unknown:
Didn't you get, Jon Voigt's sales receipt from Walmart that said tax is paid by the government? Sent that about last year.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
No. No. What what is it called?
[02:11:12] Unknown:
I don't know what it's called. He sent me a copy of the actual receipt. I might still have it. I sent it to everybody that was applicable. He's real close to you in Idaho, and he went in and bought some stuff. And he said something about tax exempt and whipped out his card, and it came back with a really long ticker that said, the government paid his tax. Next sale they called the sales manager. Sales manager comes over and says, I've never seen this before. Yeah, baby. I'll try to dig I'll try to dig it up for you, but it won't be in the next ten minutes.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
No worries. I'll check my text string with you. Do you think you texted it or emailed it?
[02:11:55] Unknown:
No. It's a text. I sent it to a lot of people.
[02:12:08] Unknown:
I'm done.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Thank you, Sheldon. Anybody else?
[02:12:17] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[02:12:20] Unknown:
No problem. Alright. Well, then let's, let's take the stream down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Got you here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. You can also find more information on the topics discussed by going to the matrixdocs.com. That is the matrixdocs.com. There's new student section. There's links to the live streams, free conference call. You can join us live on the show, downloadables, exhibits. Oh my goodness. Like I say, pack a lunch, stay the day. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll catch you right back here next time on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye now.
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[02:13:25] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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[00:01:33] Unknown:
Attach the rich, feed the poor, and tell her on old Thank you, Alvin. Thanks for the introduction. We would too. We're gonna take another swing out here today on the May 29, just about at the end of the month. And, Roger Sales, your host here. Of course, the radio ranch, the title of our little get together. And, we have friends. Yep. We sure do. We got friends that help us extend our reach. And one Paul Beaner is the one that starts them and, knows them and all that stuff. So we bring Paul out and, so he can identify them properly because I would butcher it. No doubt. And, so that we can give them proper recognition for their assistance.
Their help, and all the love that they give us. Right, Paul? Well, absolutely.
[00:02:36] Unknown:
Lots of love. Yes. Rats are rats are rough. But we're wishing WDRN productions Rots are rough this morning because they have not connected yet, but, I'm looking for them. I'm looking for them. So Slept late. Probably slept late. Oh, I don't know. They're three hours behind I am or or me or two hours behind me. There's plenty of time to sleep, I guess. Oh, okay. Well well, no. Actually, it's only 09:00 there this morning. So okay. That works for me. We are, however, on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink. Follow. We we're on eurofolkradio.com.
Thanks to pastor Eli James, amazing guy. Lots of lots of patriotic activity on that end of the fence, and we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, the matrix, d 0 c s, Com, where you will find links to Eurofolk. You will find links to Global Voice, and you will also find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. We've we've got about a thousand spaces available, so come on down. There is no waiting.
[00:04:00] Unknown:
Oh, but pretty unusual for Alan not to be there. So, hopefully, they'll tag you along here or, hopefully, on the other end, there's nothing substantially wrong. So anyway Internet's been real weird this morning. Yes. Yes. We've been going through those little pauses here lately.
[00:04:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Well well, computing computing has been weird in general because I I had, no end of hiccups this morning, and I wasn't able to sort them out until, like, fifteen minutes before showtime. So, he might be dealing with the same thing. I don't know. Okay. Could be.
[00:04:39] Unknown:
Never know day to day these days. Just lucky to be able to have it and, to be able to do the amazing things that we do here, like me sitting in the high range of the, Andes, about 8,000 feet up and on a beautiful day, by the way, and, broadcasting all over the world. I remember you probably remember us talking about this, but one time when I was still in, Argentina, Patagonia, I was in the very upper reaches of Patagonia with the area they call Patagonia. And, Brent was on one of his trips to Alaska and was up there in the Matanuska Valley above Anchorage in Palmer, Alaska in that area. And, he was connected through a laser beam Internet, and I was all the way in South America. We had a fabulous program.
So just interesting what we can do these days. Boy, I think back to my youth, you know, and the the ways that we had to communicate and whatnot. Anyway, feeling a bit better today still. I'm on the tail end of this stuff, but I'm still mucousy a bit. And, boy, I sure could have slept this morning. I could overslept this morning real easy, Paul. So I get up to, Harrison this morning, and, I don't know of any great events that happened yesterday that I can think of, you know, in the afternoon. And but, it's all Israel, Iran. Israel, Iran. Israel, Iran, this morning, anyway, that I've been exposed to. And, God bless Harrison for having the balls as a young guy, to get up and be as out front as he is on his thoughts about Israel and to, nail him, basically, which he does. And, God bless you, Harrison.
I sure hope they don't screw with you. I think he got swatted in that period there about a month or two ago when they were swatting everybody. I think he got swatted because he said on the show one morning, he said, even if I did, I wouldn't tell you about it and give you the satisfaction. And then I heard other people alluding to someone getting swatted. I think Harrison and his young family got swatted. As I've said, and I'm in a perfect example of these sorry, lying, thieving, call themselves Jew bastards, make their own worst enemies.
Oh, look at the Palestinians, and, they just make their own worst enemies, and then they continue to, here here's a good example, Paul. The, lately, you've heard, oh, who's that little creep up there rasping? Yeah. God. What a little jerk that guy is. And, some of the others are going, well, you just wait till when we get back into power, and we will. You're gonna pay for all this. What do you mean? They're trying to undo what all the communist bastards did in four years. You're gonna have a hell of a hard time undoing it. They they were so fanatical and and and repotting. They're fast about their stuff. So, anyway, that's what they're saying. We get back in the power. We're gonna get you for what we did to you the last time, and you have the gall to undo it.
These people are the sickest pieces of crap on the Earth, and, I don't have any problem calling them out. I know without a shadow of a doubt that they will not mess with me, and they won't attack what we do. First of all, they can't because we got them cold. Okay? And secondly is they don't wanna bring any attention over here that is already coming. We're I guess what I see and hear from Paul and Dave and Kaye and some of the other folks were increasing our exposure pretty dramatically, I guess. There's people from all over the world coming to the website, including the UN. I guess that's good news.
And, but they'll never mention my name. I can get on here and call them every dirty name under the book. Beg them, plead. Boo. Please, please put me on your hate list. Number one with a bullet, please. Man, they won't touch me. They won't touch this information. That's gotta tell you what we got right there. If you're of the intellect to realize those sorts of things and to know these guys the way some of us do. So, anyway, that's still the big deal. I feel like, Hillard Block, you know, a hundred years ago. By the way, he was, I should plug that video again. A Goy's Guide to History.
And he was talked about quite a bit in there. They had a whole little segment on Hillard Block, and he he was a a prolific writer, a Catholic writer, a hundred years ago and intellectual. And, he's the one that wrote a book on the Jews. And in there, he said the Jewish problem is the world's biggest problem those hundred years ago. Today, the Jewish problem is the big world's biggest problem. Hundred years. Just just just more intense. And, so, you can go to if you'd like to see that, it really nails these guys. And I'll tell you, I gotta Paul, have you ever listened to E. Michael Jones?
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Couple times.
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A guy is an incredible, incredible, learned individual, first of all. K? And he's got the he's got these guys nailed and comes right out. They they're very well of him and, we're aware of him and, his attacks. They don't attack him too much anymore, that I hear about anyway. But, boy, he's got them nailed. And if you'd like to see and hear their influence on the whole historical scene, you can go to I'm sure it's posted in probably Rumble and BitChute, but I know it's on BitChute, so that's the one I'll, refer to.
And just put it in e Michael Jones, a whole plethora of shows will come up. But right there at the start is this two hour, Goy's Guide to History. And, it goes and shows you history as slanted through the influence of the Jews. And, boy, it's, it's really something I I would encourage all of you, especially if you've got a interest in this area to go, put a couple hours into listening to that. It's exceptionally well done, and I'm just totally the more I listen to him, I'm just really impressed with his recall. Was your is there, like, a sucking sound? Is that the giant sucking sound Ross Perot told us about here or what?
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I know. Got there, Michael. But The name of his book is all these things, I believe.
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Who, e Michael? Bella. Oh, Bella. He's he wrote a number of books. One of them was called The Jews. I had a copy of it. Copied copy of it. But, yeah, he he showed some pictures of him. He had a nice looking young man. Very, a lot of people called him anti Semitic, and he goes, I'm not anti Semitic at all. You know? But, anyway, these things are worth looking into. And he he Michael Jones has got one thing for right. The the the Catholics have been dealing with the Jews a hell of a lot longer than, the the Protestants have. So he's kinda derogatory to Protestant and Protestantism, of course. He calls them white boys that don't go to church anymore.
E. Michael, why the hell would I go to any of those churches? They're all corrupt as hell as the Catholic church. You're trying to tell me the Catholic church is not corrupt? I mean, come on. But he's correct, and they've successfully dealt with them for years. And it's just very interesting. That's something like I said, if you got any interest in this issue, boy, that's a that's a good, research reference thing to fall back on. Otherwise, in that, I don't know, particularly of anything substantial to start the show with this morning. So what I'll do is just turn it around and lay it on the audience. You know, audience, we're here for you. That's why I'm here. Not just to run my mouth, but to try and help you get free and answer your questions. Hey, Rod. Hey, Rod. Be and before we do that Okay. Well Give me the title of that book. Boys.
No. It's not a book. It's a video.
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Well, the
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What was it?
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Rick, the Heller block block. He wrote a number of different books, Paul. One just one. He was kind of prolific back then. Way things are or something like that, he said.
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All these things. That's,
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Andy Hitchcock referred to it in his book.
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Did he? Okay. Wonder how Andy's doing. I hope he's doing alright. Last heard, he was taking care of his mom over there. Good guy, Andy. Kind of in our circles here because him and Paul have a good relationship. Okay. Well, I was gonna open up the the mic. Somebody wants to say something. Two of you were almost premature. I did. One. Good morning, Dave. There was another one. I'll get you in a second. Good morning, Dave.
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Good morning. Que Pasa. No. Que Pasa. Just real quick. Pardon me? Go ahead. Que pasta. Que pasta. Que pasta soup pasta. Ah. BNBN. Anyway, last night on Liberty Tree Radio man, what a treat. Mark Kornke, you know, he normally takes a 07:00, break for dinner, seven to eight, and then comes back from eight to nine. I never had a full background on him, and he did a a simulcast with quite frankly on on, Rumble.
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Yes.
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And my gosh. If you guys don't know who Mark Kornke really is, that that two hours was, oh my god. It was riveting. I was on the edge of my seat the whole the whole time. So if you go to libertytreeradio, dot, libertytreeradio.4mg.com or .org, you can, you can listen find the replay number because they you know, it's I don't know if you can listen on the computer or not, but there is a, FCC replay number. I don't have that memorized, but it's the whole four hours by phone. And it you really wanna hear the last two. And, if you go to Rumble, I think you can only hear the last hour because that guy show didn't start until I I don't know if I'm right or wrong on that. But, anyway, Mark gave I mean, from the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, and and then where they ended off was when he got sent to prison for illusion or eluding.
They didn't, I thought he went to prison because they tried to nail him with the bank robbery. They did, but they didn't. When the bank was being robbed, Mark and his wife were driving by. It's in it's a one horse town where he grew up, where everybody knows everybody. So it was his bank being robbed. And the lady calls 911 and says, oh, you know, the bank just got robbed. And, where'd the guy go? They said, oh, he walked across the street, and we're watch everybody in the bank is looking out the window watching him. He's walking right into the sheriff's department right now. And they said the 911 said, was it mister Kornke?
And the lady's like, what? Mister Kornke? No. Mister Kornke? No. It wasn't mister Kornke. And and Mark was driving by with his wife when it was happening. And I'm telling you, then he and he he said, I know a lot of people. So they're these people, sheriffs and and, you know, whatever, they're all telling them what's going on. And I don't know the whole story, but next time they're he's on that show, it probably won't be till July, they said, but he's gonna start from there, and and do another two hours. But you guys gotta hear this show. I can't give it credit, who Mark is, where he started, and and what he's really done in his life for America.
This guy is amazing.
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He really is. The audience. Much of the audience doesn't even know you're talking about really, Dave. I don't think. Yeah. Mark Mark from
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Mark from Mark from Mark Warren Keith. He is the father of the militia movement, and they saw this coming. See, Mark was in intelligence in the army. And I was told the guy who introduced me to him, 88 year old organic farmer, you know, knew him well, he told me it was infantry. And, and before I go too far, infant tree, that that was they were sending infants, our babies, to go die in the front lines of every war. They came up with that infant tree. That's where the infantry comes from, sending our babies to die for these freaking Jew wars. And, I mean, it's disgusting, and it's still happening today. Anyway, I didn't get that one from Mark, but, yeah. Mark, Mark started the militia movement because of what he learned in intelligence and Rex eighty four. He lived it. They were training.
He he his class was 33. There were 33 men in his intelligence class, and he was thirteenth in that class in scoring. And that 33 men still today hold the highest scores ever in that, you know, whatever they did. And, you know, and he's like, wow. He didn't realize the geometry there, thirty three and thirteen. You know? And, he commented on that when he said it, but he, they were living in Rex Eighty Four and that's when he started this. Mark has been buying surplus military gear, like helicopters, planes, five tons, two tons, track vehicles, trucks, anything besides f fifteens and nukes.
He's been buying that stuff by the pallet load for over thirty years, thirty four years. And I'm telling you, he's got, like, 20 camps up and down Michigan that he talks about daily on the shows. K? The cost to go train. These are training camps for militia. They come from all over America to go train in his camps. The entrance fee is two number 10 cans of food per person in the car that come to his camp for the, you know, three or four day weekend to train on how to be a militiamen. And he feeds you, he houses you, he entertains you, and he trains you. And this guy is just I don't know anybody like him. He blows me away. And I'll tell you, the my first experience with him, my friend had given me the number to call into his show maybe three years ago.
And I when I finally got around to it, I was blown away. I'm like, my god. This this this guy for real? I called up John Stattmiller. I was the last caller on his show that day. And and I because I had heard John, you know, people talking about them two guys working together. John was in Michigan. They did a lot of work together. They started Internet radio. They've done the incredible stuff together, but so I I never heard him tell any backstory about Mark. I said, so, John, tell me is Mark Kornke for real? And and, oh, man, you should have heard. He says, well, Dave, I don't know, Dave.
You're gonna have to ask him that, Dave. And I says, oh, wow. Okay. I get it. He says, oh, do you Dave? What do you get Dave? I says, John, it's quite obvious that you got a a burr under your saddle for this guy, and you're not gonna tell me nothing. And I can't remember what he said after that, and we hung up. And no sooner the show end, my phone rang, and it was John Stattmiller. And he was screaming at the top of his lungs at me, cussing that m or f er blah blah blah. He blamed me for him getting arrested. He said I turned him in.
Well, you know, I said, I'm gonna have to do a little more research, aren't I, John? And, he banned me from his show again. He did it, like, three or four times, and then he, you know, let me back for whatever reason. But, I talked to a couple of people that knew John and knew Mark. And, well, my opinion of John dropped a little bit there after I talked to some some folks that y'all know and love. You know, and they kinda clue me in. Anyway, Mark is an amazing man. He's been in our home, and, I can't say enough about the guy. So, anyway Wow. Check it out. Libertyradio..org is is the easiest way to get there. Yesterday's show, at least the last two
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hours. So it's not on the is the is Liberty Tree the show the network or the station that he's on regularly? Yeah. Daily Daily Show. Julie. Roger, his daily show is on
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libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's his original show. And then he now has libertytreeradio.0rg, and that's Monday through Friday from Yeah. Five to seven eastern. He takes an hour break, you know, between seven and eight and comes back eight to nine, and then he's on shortwave the last hour. I think it's six point one six o, on that dial, the planet. It's the planet.
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Yeah. Well, he's been around a long time. I'm very privy to this. Years ago, when I was still a puppy with this, I was working with Lynn Horowitz, helping him sell his book anytime he was in the Atlanta area. And, they put on a show, an expo, whatever you call it, out at a place in Austell, Georgia called the Thread Mill Mall. And I got to meet both of them. They're standing right there by my table. Oh, Mark and John. It was all yes. It was always Mark from Michigan, and Stap Miller somehow hooked on to his coattails. And so it was John and and Mark. And then somehow, there was always a lot of conjecture about this in the movement.
Yes. Al Mark, who was supposedly a janitor at a school or something
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at No. He was the maintenance supervisor at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
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Okay. Well, he was some kind of involved in that. It was his job. And, all of a sudden, he got thrown into prison for seven years, wasn't it, Dave? Yes. Seven and a half years. And and Stap Miller got to go on off, and they bought the software for the radio network from, a magazine called Media Bypass. They were trying to start a network. They got frustrated with it. Stad Miller somehow bought that equipment and carried it down because Alex was just starting to, to to make big waves and get attention. And I think John wanted to just hook himself to anybody's coattail that was a potential star.
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I think that Mark and Mark and John put Alex Jones on the air for the first time after that TV show.
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Well, they were fun. He was already he was already on the air in Austin. Anyway, John He had a he had a
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TV show.
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Alright. On on p on public broadcasting, whatever. Yeah. And so Yep. John tried to hook himself to Alex, and what you got, there's two big egos. And that wasn't gonna last but about ten seconds. And then they were always having a pissing match on the air, slinging arrows at each other and all that. And finally, Alex got smart and quit doing that. But, yeah, there's a lot of background history of this, and people wonder how did Mark get thrown in jail, federal prison, I guess, or state prison? One for seven years. I'm
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pretty sure it was federal, because of they were gonna try and pin this bank robbery on him, but then what they got him for was eluding.
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Whatever. That's part of the watered along under the bridge. The question was, how did Stap Miller sneak off unscathed from all that and go start a radio network? That was always the question surrounding Stap Miller. And now our buddy, Tom Dee, is running that operation over there. So there's still a lot of questions even though Stap Miller's dead and gone. Now, Julie, Hold on. Let Julie hold on. Julie's been wanting to get in. You're all fine.
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I was just gonna I thought I was just gonna read the number first. Female. If sorry. If anybody wants the number, it's (667) 770-1524. And it's Room number 957464 Pound. Right. That's for Liberty Tree Radio, and it's very good.
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Okay. Now the fellow that was trying to get in there. Sorry. A minute ago. It's Samuel. Ah, Samuel.
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Yeah. There's Paul, guys like you may have heard of these two names. There's one's called Sam Anthony, and the other one is called Kevin Hoyt. Are you familiar with either of those guys?
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You asking Paul or me? No. Not me. Well
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well, let me let me give you just a little bit of bio on this guy.
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I am.
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Sam Anthony is the founder and CEO of Niko Ventures Inc, a company that aims to establish a media platform dedicated to uncovering the true the truth without censorship. Sam Anthony, over two decades of experience of online media industry, has been pivotal in designing and implementing technology that has enabled journalists to transition into the digital realm. Okay? And then there's this a Kevin Hoyt guy. He seems to be an eighth generation Vermont, activist. And he, I think, owns this place called yournews.com. What Sam Anthony is coming in with his expertise is to get that platform bigger than, say, Reuters by using citizen journalists.
And it's gonna cover the local venue as well as the national and international. And what you can do is you can sign up to be this journalist. And you can invest in being this journalist and mister, Anthony's expertise will take be able to take this and raise the millions of dollars through it, publicize it, and grow it into and until it becomes a, a public offering in that 75 to a hundred million dollar area. So I was thinking and I sent out about a dozen links to a lot of you out there if you look for it, Paul. I I sent you a couple. If one of us could get in there and promote what we're doing, this could be a good venue, I think, for us to get this message out.
Okay.
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So, Julie, you said you knew something about these guys? Yeah. Yeah. I know, Kevin Hoyt really well. I have his cell phone number, and, I could get a hold of him. He's out of Vermont, and, he actually it's really funny. He sued, all of these commissioners in Vermont, and then he looked them up and found all of these, side bit LLCs that they had. Several of them or a couple of them were child sex trafficking. It was just disgusting. He's very smart.
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From what I understand, this Kevin Hoyt, who is this activist, is inviting in this Sam Anthony because of his expertise in funding and laying down platforms in in digital media to be able to grow the power of the citizen journalists. And he he he was interviewed today by Dave Hodges.
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Yep. I know. I subscribed to him.
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Red State Radio. And, it it's a it's worth looking looking into. So I like I said, I sent a bunch of links out to different people.
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Yeah. Dave Rogers also I subscribed to his, YouTube channel, and he's great too, but I could get a hold of both of them.
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So, Roger,
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would you
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with Kevin Hoyt. Do you think you'd be up to doing something if I mean, look. I if somebody comes you ever heard me turn down an interview, Samuel?
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No.
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Well, this would probably have to be a little bit more ongoing, but I don't know. You know, it's I just wanna throw it out there for food for thought, and I sent that link out for people to be able to take a look and sort of investigate it.
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Where's that? What no what what conversation is going on in the background, Paul?
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Let me, check active speakers. Jesse.
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His mic was open. Okay. Alright. We'll close Jesse's mind then. Okay. Samuel. Yeah. I mean, I'm open to any of that stuff.
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Well, you won't get censored and and and set aside. You know? It's and he he this this Sam Anthony guy says, this is basically gonna work what like YouTube. It's gonna be the eighty twenty. You know? There's gonna be 20 that are really gonna come to the forefront and generate. And and plus, if you sign up and get into this thing, I think you get revenue ads and stuff like that as well as you would like on YouTube. So, you know, it's it's really beyond my understanding of what's really going on here. So Yes. I just wanted to throw it out there for people like Paul who could take a better objective look at it. You know?
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Well, I've never turned down an interview that I know of, and I'm always willing to talk to anybody that really wants to listen. And, well, I just hope I'd say if that does come about, best laid plans of mice and men, you know. Well, maybe if that does get account, we'll, we'll citizen journalist,
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and he interviews you.
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That's that's okay. I don't care. Makes no difference to me. It just, to get the information out and hope that we get a better response than we did out of Jeff Rents' vast audience. Now and I've thought about that. Now I think about that quite a bit. It crosses my mind, and I just I'm I'm it's just a big question to me. Why? Not even one person coming forward from two shots, two hours on a big platform. I mean, it's huge. But we know that Jeff doesn't have any spiritual spirituality to him necessarily, and, maybe that conveys and transfers to his audience. I don't know because that's still that's still alien encounter.
Yeah. I should've said that. I probably would've jumped all over it, but maybe that's the way his audience is too. I don't know. I'm just kinda still surprised by that. There was a female there. Who who was that? One of our gals.
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Well, I had a comment.
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Well, hold it. There was a a female that said something I thought or am my hearing going to? I guess it is. Go ahead, Paul.
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Mhmm. I'm guessing I don't know. Must have been me. Maybe I slipped into falsetto or something like that. I have no idea. But, no. I think Jeff Rentz has a spiritual side. He does talk about that on on some of his shows.
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So I think he's a pretty spiritual guy. But He was a he's a reform he was a brave Catholic. His father was a big time chef in Los Angeles at one of the restaurants. Yeah. One of the big time restaurants. I don't know which one.
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Well, I I think it's likely he stepped away from the Catholic church, but I don't think he stepped away from the people together.
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Well, I you know, he doesn't have much of a from what I've over the years, it's just, I've heard him pay in Christianity, and I don't think he has much spirituality at least the way we would look at it. But he might I might be wrong. Anyway, I do know this. To my knowledge, not one person has come out of that those two appearances, and that's kind of freaky to me. Yeah. But whatever, it just goes to show you even more. What I keep trying to tell you is everyone's not gonna be receptive to this message. I do not know why.
I would think they would all be interested in freedom, but they don't appear to be is my experience over many years.
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Well, they've I think it a lot of our roadblocks come from people have been studying and researching this, that, and the other thing, and all of the interconnected dots, and all of the deep dives, and all that stuff. They just cannot believe that the actual answer can be so simple.
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I mean I do I do know that's true. I've heard that comment a number of times. I understand it. K? Yeah. But then you roll across somebody like our dear our our our little little lioness here, Julie. I mean, Julie enough of this stuff from the very first time that we ever spoke on the phone years ago. And so, obviously, she's the right kind of person. Larry's the right kind of person. You know, you can tell when it resonates with somebody. And some folks, it's just they ain't got a chance at any resignation. I don't know why.
But if that's their choice, conscious or odd, then then I'm alright with it.
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Yeah. I I think there's a fundamental difference on how this information is presented as opposed to all the other stuff. The other stuff, there are, countless months of study and research to figure out what happened by going down the rabbit hole. Well, here, we tell you what happened.
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That's right. Yeah. And then
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the the months of research that follow ours is how it connected,
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how they actually pulled it off. We tell you what happened right out of the gate. Or or or getting rid of all the crap that's been compiled and piling up back there. We'll get that out of your subconscious if as much as we can, and replace it with good information that's true, that's proven, and that's empowering. The other information is not empowering because it's not true. It it it might you it might empower you. You think you're being empowered, but you're on quicksand. It's not a solid foundation.
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Yeah. So, anyway, I'm They are rabid. They are rabid about what they believe in the dot state. Oh my god. And the Try and tell them. It's the emotional investment, Raj. It's the emotional investment they have in everything that they've studied and researched.
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They're, I mean Invested in it.
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Oh god. They're invested in
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it. And trying to get them to let that go. Yeah. Listen. I know I've been doing it for years, and it just frustrates the pee waddling out of me. I always try and go back to Mark Twain. It ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so. And the other twin, twin quote from Mark is it's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled. Both of those apply to that situation right there.
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Right. Well, we're also trying to tell them fool.
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Yeah. They just let that soak in if you hadn't heard that before. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. Why? Pries.
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Right. But just try telling them they've been fooling themselves with what they thought they knew.
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You may laugh at this if you hadn't been out talking to people about this stuff. But if you get out and talking to them, you'll you'll pretty well find what Paul Meyer talking about is accurate. So if you're one of those gotta learn themselves, go do it. But that's all those things are the formidable parts of spreading our message. I mean, I've told you many times that that first time that I was on Joyce Riley's show, well, hell, man. I thought this would go through the country like crap through a goose. And it we got a little traction for sure, but poor old Joyce, even she went to her grave not understanding it. I was on there three times.
Some folks have and that that could have been me. I I couldn't explain it as well back then. I'll certainly readily admit that. We've come a long way, in that department since then. But regardless, she just never got it.
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Question.
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God bless her soul. Yep.
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Do you think the dot, the actual dot that's standing in our way could be simply pride?
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Well, it's human nature of some sort. I'm just not sure of all the components. Pride is the one that because a man doesn't wanna say he's wrong when he especially when he's been one of these folks that's boistering about it and boisterous and trying to go and show you, and then you go, no. That's not right because, blah blah. And then they get, you know well, they get a burr up their saddle there under their saddle, Paul. Right. I don't know. I just know that makes all those like Dave here and and and Julie and all the others that this information does touch makes you real important. Yes, Dave?
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You know, this psyop that they've been working on us for a couple hundred years is very deep and profound. And, you know, the buddy I know in the assembly, he's he calls it systematitis. And, you know, it's hard to break loose of that. You you quote a lot. You know, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think. See, a horse is smart enough to know when he's thirsty. But then you can lead a man to the truth, but you sure can't make him think.
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No. You you can you can at least in the direction you want to. In many times, sometimes you can be persuasive. And we've tried to pioneer ways of of of putting this in front of people, simply presenting the equivocation backwards, those sorts of things. And but you gotta come to the realization this was a big shift for me. You know, all my job is is to try my best to touch cross paths with you, Dave, somehow, and to, get your attention enough to tell you I've I've got a choice here that you've got that you don't know you've got and has been hidden from you that will totally alleviate some of your governmentitis and your systemitis as he calls it.
And you put it to them that way. And if they don't want to hear it or don't believe it, then those are their consequences because that's their decision. You fulfilled the Old Testament watchmen on the wall thing of telling them at least the best you could. And if they didn't listen, well, tough cock off for them. You know? But you've been alleviated your responsibility. So when I really internalized that and and understood it and applied it, it made my job a lot less frustrating. Because now my approach I've done my job when I try and talk to you. If you don't listen, it's your problem.
Pray for you. You know? Good luck. All the best. But,
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Kick the dust off your feet and walk away. Go to the next one.
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This is one thing I have learned. You cannot force this on people. There ain't no way because they'll never do what's necessary to make it fulfilled. K? So it's a that is a, that's a I'm beating my head against the wall because it feels so good when I stop situation.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. Frank was unmuted there for a minute. Frank, did you wanna speak to him? Something?
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Oh, Frank. There he is. Okay. Frank seems a little shy. Anybody else, got anything they wanted to bring forward? Julie, you're usually one with something to say. Yikes. Roger? What's this Roger? It's a slow new it's a slow news day. Yes, dear.
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Well, I have something else that that I sent, I sent, Kevin Hoyt a text message, but, I want I have something else. Did you hear what the Libtars and Leticia James is doing now?
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Oh my god. No. I I don't know if I've heard of the latest. I heard that she's coming out and saying she didn't know what she was doing or some bullshit.
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There's the Liberty Justice Center and a coalition of the libtard state government have filed a lawsuit to block the tariffs that Trump has. They're doing everything.
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Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's about 10 twelve twelve different lawsuits they're trying to do on that, I think. I did this is something I wanted to talk about, though, that I was really pleased about. Did anybody see, judge Janine sworn in last night?
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I did.
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I'm really pleased about that. I like her. I I think they wanted to get rid of that other guy, Wilson, and they got this gal instead. They may be sorry they didn't take Wilson, because the way Trump handled, he moved him up to an even more important new job that oversees the whole country, including DC that you can go into. And now they bring in judge Jeanine underneath to take that d's DC a a g position. What a sharp gal. She had her family with her. Her she had a beautiful daughter, I thought. And, it was just a really nice ceremony, and I'm pleased to see her in that position. She is a pistol, judge Janine. I bet you they can't find one negative thing on her to bring forward, Julie.
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No. I like judge Jeanine. I've I've watched her on Fox over the years.
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So good for that. You know, another one of Trump's good appointees. That his problem right now seems to be they've got the leverage put on by the Jews in the in the Congress, not only on the house but certainly in the senate. And, that they're always gonna have some retaliation point, and that seems to be what it is right now. By the way, I heard a list of these national injunctions, Julie, of of the presidents all the way back to Bush senior, I think, of how many of them they had during their presidency. And it was like ten, twelve, for 12 for Clinton, so much for Bush junior, sixteen for Obama, sixty four for Trump.
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Yep.
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Yep. So, we may hear that's one thing. We should be hearing some of these big, Supreme Court decisions from this term come out this week and probably even more so next week. And the reason for that is because at that point, June, I guess, they take their vacations, and they don't come back till the October. And that's, when they reconvene. Joe, how in the world are you doing this morning?
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Well, I have to call you on it. It's an opinion, not a pleasure.
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Okay. Alright. I won't get you saying that opinion. Okay. Well, yeah, you know, these these, these things are are conditioned very deeply in our minds.
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They are. And words matter. You say it.
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So, but, I mean, they they've got a controversial thing. It comes up to them. They talk it over and go in and decide and write their own opinions. Okay. There you go. Opinions. Collectively, it's referred to as a decision. I'll try and I'll try and clean up my language, Joe.
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Words will change the paradigm.
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Alright. Well, you you know, and and the reciprocation of this is you've gotta go through twenty four hours and not call money currency or call currency money, whatever.
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I will do my best.
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Yeah. And and and Joe's right. The words we use create a reality. And it's, they've done a masterful job of this. God spoke Undoing it. I'm gonna tell you what, undoing it undoing it is a real challenge on a mass scale. What, Paul? What was your comment?
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God spoke the world into existence. That's correct. Yep. Words.
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Yep. They do. So, let's see where else can we, go this morning. We're not even to the halfway point yet. Now Allen never did join us, did he?
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No. No. He's he's having, satellite and Wi Fi issues. The Internet's popping in and out.
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Okay. Well, unfortunate. It's the times we live in. Yes. So the judge Jeanine thing, I was very pleased about. He has picked some real, real good staffers. Of course, the one that is, I guess, you could say by far leading the pack would be Robert Kennedy junior. He's just kicking ass and taking names, that guy is. Of of of of Tulsi Gabbard, somewhat right behind him. I was sorry to hear. I mentioned it on the air a while back. Just heard it on the show. She had nominated somebody to be one of her close underlings there, and he was a two or three veteran, you know, decorated military guy.
But he was absolutely against Israel, and, he got taken out of the nominations. So with all of the obstacles they've got to face, she's still doing real good. Roger. The the jury is still out on Kash Patel. I was I heard somebody get you a second. Samuel asking yesterday if he was a Christian. He goes over on, Chase Geyser show or something. And they said they didn't know. They thought he was Christian. He's not. He's a Hindi, as is Tulsi Gabbard. They're both Indies. Yes, Samuel.
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Yeah. I just wanted to point out that this this Sam Anthony guy, you know, he's he's basically running the web system for, Amazon, which you might say is somewhat successful. He was pointing out the numbers on the traditional media right now. He looked at Fox, which is top of the heap. He says in the category where there's a hundred million potential viewers in that age group, he says they have 386,000.
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Yeah. I was gonna say less than a million. Mhmm. There's he says their numbers are so pathetic.
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It it's gonna be very easy for this true, like, citizen journal ship movement to take it over completely.
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Well, it's kinda already is a big go ahead.
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Well, there's there's really there's he's talking about all of the other ones that are out there. The Dave Hodges is, you know, the Mike Adams, etcetera. He's he says, those can be players in this. But he says, it it's going the way they're gonna set this thing up, if you wanna know what happened at the basketball game or the mean, I mean, I was quite impressed by the what this guy was saying.
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The concept. Well, as a concept implementation on something that minute takes a while, good on him. The whole thing's been building. Look at the, press corps at the White House. In fact, there was talk I heard Chase mentioned it the other day. They were talking about, giving InfoWars a seat up there for a month. And maybe they could chase guys or the guy that that could do it. So I think Alex is up there right now, but he's up there partially at the DOJ with his they got a big hearing next week on the ninth about the Infowars, and they've caught the DOJ and Bloomberg in just all kinds of sleazy crap, as you'd expect with these bunch. Yes.
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One of the things that he says has been an obstacle, and he says he has himself in trying this in the past has failed himself. But now he sees how to do this to to get over the funding issue. So when you become a citizen journalist in this organization, you're actually buying shares in it, and you're feeding this whole organization. And he he's raising millions of dollars by doing this, and then in time, he will take it public. I mean, it's Okay. It's
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pretty interesting stuff. Well, it's a big, it's a big idea and a big goal and more power to him. So yes.
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Oh, there's a Yeah. Roger. Understand. I just before we get too far, during Tulsi's, con confirmation hearings, she said she was a Buddhist.
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No. I heard her say she was a Hindi.
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Well, I heard her say she was Buddhist.
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Well, we both heard different things. Let me look that up. And the reason I I note that Hindi is because I I did hear Kash Patel say he was a Andy, and both of them said that Andy's Yep. I heard both of them say it, but whatever. Okay. He's a, a far an eastern religion. Let's put it like that. You're right.
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Roger's right. I I heard them, being, Hindi too. And the wife of, the vice president, she said make sure of Hindi and Catholic.
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The oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. JD Vance's. Man, I'll tell you what came out yesterday that came out that who was running the whole White House. Anybody hear that? Who was really running the show and had a mask, tons of power? Nobody heard that. Yes, Roger. This is you did, Larry. Right?
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Yeah. It's, this Anthony Burnell. I think that's how you say it.
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Yeah. Bernell. That's Bernell. And his his position was?
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He was an aide, and he was at the top of the the pyramid there. He's been involved in various democratic.
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He was he was Joe Biden's chief of staff. So it wasn't Biden's chief of staff. He was her chief of staff running the whole thing from the shadows. This is the way your enemy works right here. Just like when George Bush w was the president, Cheney in the was vice president. Chairman president. He was running the country. He didn't have let that doofus Bush up there. So the I point that out because this is the way they work. It's for your edification and information.
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But that's it, Larry. Yeah. He's, but, his involvement goes all the way back to Clinton. He was involved with the, the Clintons and their administration and also, Obama and, of course, Joe Biden. And, he's also being called the business husband of, I believe her name is Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife.
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Yes.
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And, there's also talk about how he has been selling the Auto Pen behind the scenes.
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Yep. Him and Clang, who was Biden's previous. He didn't make the whole term. He resigned about halfway through. Ron Clang is the guy's name. He was, fingered with that also. So, this hopefully, we're moving forward. I think the congress is already about to hold hearings on the auto pin fiasco. And, folks, that may be one of the biggest the biggest events of treason in the history of the country is this auto pin fiasco.
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We'll we'll see. Calling it the biggest scandal in world history. American world history.
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Well, I I don't I'm not sure that I doubt it that I would question them on that statement. It's huge. And, of course, now the Democrats are throwing out all kinds of, red herrings. You know? Oh, we're we're looking to the who had the cocaine in the White House and all those other peripheral like we could give a damn. We wanna know who was running the the strongest country in the world from behind a curtain with an auto pin. So whether how much of that information we'll get, I don't know, but at least the importance of it seems to have registered with Trump. Put it that way.
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They're calling him the, the Wizard of Oz behind the curtains. A lot of the a lot of the lower staff that worked around him.
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Yeah. Yep. Well, I I can see it's when I I heard that yesterday, I thought to myself, well, it just fits perfect on how they set things up. And that's how sneaky these guys are. They're never gonna give you the obvious answer in front of you. So, anyway, another good thing, judge Janine and and the, advance Hey, Roger. Oh, well, look. There's Bob. Hey, Bob.
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Yes, sir. I don't know if I I heard Jesse calling, and I had to get I can't it got towed away. I'm I'm not sure. He may have already brought this up. The difference between Hindu and Hindi.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know the difference of that. No. Well, Hindi is a language.
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Hindu is a religion. Hindus may or may not be Hindu, and Hindus may or may not speak Hindi. So
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well, both of them in my I know Cash, and I thought she both of them said they were
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Hindis. Their word. No. No. They would have said Hindu if they were, in fact, of the religious persuasion because Hindi is a language. Okay. It's the major language in the subcontinent of of, in the subcontinent of India. It's the dominant language. I think most of their government. Most everybody knows Hindi like they would know English in America. I I had to cough when I said that. They used to because it's kind of the default official language, but then there's, like, 13 different states that have their own dialect. And my goodness, in within those states, it's just everywhere. You've got hundreds and hundreds of dialects.
But Hindi is the dominant governmental language.
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Okay. Well Yeah. Bob, you're right. It's Hindu if he's, a believer in Hindu. And it's, 1,400,000,000 people and 800,000,000 are Hindus. But both of them, I have read and I saw they call them they, they're religiously I don't know if they're just circular Hindus or real practicing, but they identify as with a religion Hindu.
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Yes. Okay. Well, that's dump my memory of what they said in the senate, but maybe somebody maybe go look it up. But, anyway, that they're they're of a foreign religion. They're of a foreign religion. Hey, Jesse.
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Yeah. A few minutes ago, you know, one of the reason people don't hear the truth is, the truth would never will be popular. Never in anything. Spiritually, economically, socially. That's why it doesn't bother me, once people don't hear no more. And the truth is, usually, it's fear, fear, pride, and greed. For the upper end of social class is greed. They don't if they're think things are going well for them, they're not gonna hear us. And for other people, they don't they just fear of changing our or something they don't understand. And a lot of them, like, usually the one that has a career title, that pride, that you know something they don't know.
And, you know, let let me let me read you a passage on one little if I find it now. It says, and with all wicked deception for who are perishing because they refuse to love the truth. Yeah. And then it says, therefore, god sends them a strong delusion so they may believe what is false.
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There's
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no doubt. People that don't know the truth spiritually or family or or economically or freedom, at the end of the day, they will have a delusion, and they will believe the false. I And that's what I'm doing right now. Yep. Bobby just came out with, saying that all the investigation of CDC that, all that they recommended that we all have to have the vaccine. Now the new regulation that nobody should get the vaccines. So for those people No. They believe those false things. Now what do they do? Oh, they changed everything. It's too late. They already got it.
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You know? Now they they left the, they they left the recommendation for people 65. That was the only one that he left active. Now for the audience who may not understand what's going on here, Kennedy has pulled the recommendation that the COVID shot be given to all every all age groups and everybody 65. And the reason they did that is because as long as they've got the recommendation of the government that those shots are are are applicable, then the pharmaceuticals have protection. The minute they took the recommendation off of there, they lose their immunity to suit.
Julie. Yes, ma'am. Yeah.
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I need to post in here, the the whole entire interview with Karen Kingston and two other people. She is calling out Yeah. She's showing. She's calling out JFK and so is Sasha Ladipova. He has Sasha Latypova has met with him. She has told him you need to rescind the PREP Act and he refuses to do this. And while and it's all lies. Everything you're hearing is all lies. I'm sorry. I watched both interviews with Sasha Latipova as well as Karen Kingston yesterday and on her substack, and she's very upset. They're trying to poison her. They're trying to get rid of her. They've tried to take her down two times right now, but she says this is a huge biotech war on humanity, and JFK is compromised. And, I don't like him at all, so I yield.
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Hello? Julie
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Julie has always got a contra view and perspective, and I think that's Robbie, isn't it right there? This is Kaye calling. Hello? Oh, it's Kaye. Hey, Kaye. How are you doing? Long time. Okay. I'm yeah. I know. Hi.
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Yeah. May I change the subject just for a moment, please?
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Sure.
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This has never happened to me. I have a call to jury duty, and I'm wondering if anyone else has had this call and how they handle it.
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Well, yes. We have it occasionally come up. You, and there's differing opinions on it. Some people would say go ahead and do it because you've got a a chance to actually, as a juror, if depending on the case, but you've got a chance to really exercise the principle our country was founded on. You know, the that if they're gonna charge and convict him of that, are they gonna get me next? And that's where jury nullification comes in. You know about jury nullification. Right? Okay.
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Sure. Yeah. I've been thinking about I I've been thinking about hello?
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Yes. Do you know about fee yes. I do. Can you hear about do you know about Vija, fully informed jury association? Yes. You might wanna look at that online. That's fijafija.org or com or something. It's called the Fully Informed Jury Associate j okay. Fully Informed Jury Association. And the an acronym is Fija, f I j a. It was founded '30
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That's f as in Frank?
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Yes. Fully Informed Jury Association, f I j a. K. Was formed by the late Red Beckman. He one of our patriarchs of our movement really, and, it was built to take advantage of the jury and your power because they've changed that. See, in the parts of the country and the way under the common law is that you're supposed to decide the law and the fact. And so what they've done now is they've got the process screws to where the judge gives the law to the jury and they just decide on the facts. So they've overwritten that that power of the jury right there.
So you still have the power as one person, depending on the case, to totally nullify that decision and say, no. They're not gonna charge you that law. Basically, tell them the law is not good. So, anyway, it's up to you. There's a lot of people hold on, Dave. Hold on a minute. So there there's a lot of background. There's a lot of background here. It's very important. Some people obviously don't wanna do it for whatever reasons, but, you know, there's a side that says there's John Benson thought that the jury was the only thing left that assured a Republican form of government.
I can tell you we, Harvey and me, one day years ago, and it's some of his buddies because that's how I met Harvey. He was associated with Fiji and was on the radio talking about it. That's how we met. And so we took those little booklets, the little pocket constitutions down to the Richard B Russell Federal Building in Downtown Atlanta right next to the Mercedes Dome and all that right down there. And, we were handing them out to people in the parking lot, and we literally they closed down the Richard B Russell Federal Building. That's how scared they were of that little booklet.
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Wow. Wow. Okay. So if a person did not, want to do jury duty for any different reasons that I don't Yes. Really need to go in for for her. Yeah. But how has anyone ever
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Yes. Well All you have. Have run. Yes. All you Yeah. This is just And and my Okay. I can't hold them back. Go go whoever wants to talk, go ahead and talk.
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Sorry. Before I can Many
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many of my family member, we just signed it saying we're not citizen first name, and we send it, and we never have heard from them again. And this is over a year ago. Three of our past members.
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Now here, what you're bucking up against here, Kaye, is that phrase a jury of your peers. Because since you've changed your political status, you're not peeraged to any of those people more than likely. So, can you sit on that jury if you're not a jury of the of one of the peers? And are you, as a free person, appear with someone who's a serf? We don't have the answers to those questions. But if you'll put your status in front of whoever sent you that jury duty summons, I would imagine you'll never hear from them again.
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Roger.
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Okay. Alright. Hold on. Hold on. Everybody wants to hold on. Everybody wants to talk. Did you get that, Kaye? I did. I did. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Now the the multitudes want to converse with you.
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Roger. So, hi. Good morning. A few people have tried to get on the jury duty because they do wanna participate, but they won't let you because it's a you you have to be a US citizen. So for the ones that don't wanna participate, it's pretty simple. You send in that paper. You don't have to complete anything on it except for the part where you where it says you're not as, are you a citizen, or are you a I don't know. There I think there's an option for a resident. Forget. But that's what I did, and I just sent it in with my affidavit, and they left me alone. They haven't sent me anything in, like, three years or four years.
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Okay. Okay. That's kind of what I was thinking of doing. Alright. Yep. It comes at yeah. Just comes at a anyway, I I have reasons, several Okay. Where I'm not wanting to do it. Otherwise, you're right, Roger. You're right. It's a it's an opportunity,
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but it comes at a bad time. Well, I'll tell you my I'll tell you my friend's jury duty story in a second, but Dave is chomping at the bit to tell you something. Thank you, Rob.
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So, Kaye, when I I got my jury notice, several years ago, I'm I'm legally blind. Right? I don't drive. I got no way to get there, and I didn't think about trying to be a nullifier. Right? A jury nullification. But it, you know, the the form was read to me. First of all, the envelope was not sealed. Nobody signed it. There was nobody's name on it from who sent it. Okay? And then it was read to me and it said, are you a US citizen? Well, I'm not. I'm a national. And guess why the judge has overlord over all the jurors because none of them are nationals. So the judge is the is the the advocate general in that courtroom. And he he even if the jury nullifies the the case, the judge can overthrow the jury and say, nope. I'm ruling this way. You guys are out of here. So in a box. Yeah. You got to be a US citizen in order to sit on that jury in this corporate democracy, and I yield. Okay. Now up, Jake.
Notice, Roger. It's been over five years. Alright. And I don't mind if you ever got one after that, and I told her, just say you're not a US citizen. She never heard back from them. I yield.
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Could you not call yourself a citizen of The United States Of America? Would that not apply?
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Well, they probably won't accept it. They won't pick
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you. Well, that that may be, and and that we don't know the answer to that question, but, it's just a devil's advocate
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position. Yes. I understand. You're there. If you do get picked, you're near in the interview there with all those other potential jurors, you can't lie. They're gonna ask you questions and they're gonna figure out where your heart and mind lie and, you know, sit with this corporate democracy and they're gonna figure out, we don't want this woman on our jury. She's out of here. Are you? Okay? Now I hope I hope you I hope you feel better, Dave. Now who else has got something? The United States does is nothing
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to the same it's not it's not the same as The United States Of America, Roger. The it's the corporation they're participating in.
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Yeah. I understand that. I'm just throwing up devil's advocates to to provoke I gotcha. Work. Yeah. So Woah. We got a breadwinner now. I wish you'd have called earlier, Kaye. Go ahead. Alright. I've been checking people. I've been trying to talk to Kaye for five minutes, but I've Alright. Well, listen. As in, longevity has something to do here since Bob's the probably the except for Kaye, the oldest listener here. I'm gonna defer to Bob to reach you back to Kaye.
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I Well I defer to Bob, but I I Hi. I don't know. Hi, Bob.
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Hello. Hello. Hello. Yes, ma'am. Good to talk to you. I had this experience recently, which is why I wanted to mention it to you. In Florida, it's just a form that comes out. You've been selected blah blah blah, this and that date. Here's your juror your juror number should you participate, and there's 27 different check boxes as to why you can't. First one being not a US citizen, which, of course, I checked. Many others having to do with family status, pregnant woman, etcetera. It's on and on and on. And then there's this little five or six line area to fill out a reason.
Now it didn't actually address citizenship status at all. It was more to do with if you wanted to be excused and, for some other reasons, but I decided to take the to take the initiative, and I just put on there pursuant to, you know, USC eight USC 11 o one, etcetera, etcetera. We all know the drill. And, you know, thank you for your consideration. Would you please take my name out of contention for future blah blah blah? Well, I get a call, and I wasn't home. And it went to voice mail, and my wife says, you got a call from the jury pool. And so I called back eventually, and their their problem was they couldn't reconcile how they said, well, we get our information. We get our our our potential jurors come out of the DMV.
And I said, so in other words, I just simply have to politely decline. Every time this happens, you can't get me out of that system. She said, yeah. I really don't have any any input on that because we don't generate it internally. It comes from the DMV. And what I thought of later, and you may consider I know you're a very articulate lady. I should and I may still, although I haven't. We're in a busy time of the year. I it would be a great opportunity to approach the judge if he was willing. The judge would be it it would be interesting to put forward what's going on because I'll just about guarantee you he has no idea. He's he's judged. It don't mean he's smart. I mean, he's not stupid. He's just uninformed.
And, it would be a good opportunity to get the national status out in front of somebody and even potentially, in my case, to weaponize it and get a a ruling, if you will, from this judge dictating, if you will, that I am exempt, not just that I think I am and not nothing to do with you know? You see what I'm you see what I'm saying?
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Sure.
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Okay. Well, that's all I had. I just thought it was interesting you brought that up because I've just gone through it a month ago. And, I I I know Gary called in, and I have a lot of respect for Gary, but I don't necessarily agree on this point. And he was saying, look, people. You know, we can affect things if you are on the jury. And I agree, but I could have affected things by having my kids in public school too, but I chose not to because I I didn't look at it as the best use of of their education time. I chose to not do that. And I think in this case, in this case, having to be in a pool of some that are not your peers by definition, I just don't see the point. It's a contaminated system already. I'm not really sure.
I can see the idea of of being in there to gum up the works, so to speak, but I really don't take any pleasure in gumming up the works. I wanna change the system. And, anyway, that's my thoughts.
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Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Nick. Kaye has stimulated discussion today. Thank you. Samuel and Nick. Who?
[01:19:25] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yeah. Roger. I I I just wanted to say and I'm gonna throw opinion in there for Joe. I've read I've read a number of of of opinions that say that if you enter that place through the all caps name, the judge considers you noncompass mentis.
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Wow. Okay. All of this all of this lost stuff brings up the past in me, unfortunately, when I was fighting in court.
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Yeah. It would have to be a great experience, and there's there's a a thing called the Chalcedon group in California. They're a biblical group. And a woman in there tells her story about doing this. And, she was like right in the place you are right now, Kaye, wondering if she should or if she shouldn't. And, finally, she sort of got the message from the, from that this was a duty that she was going to perform, and her experience in in the message she left was hard to even believe, which she went through just to stay on the jury. And, of course, she didn't convict because there weren't two witnesses.
If she would have said any of this, she would have been 80 sixed.
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I don't know what that means. 86. Sound you're sounding like Comey now.
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She would have been eliminated off the jury case. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, Roger.
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Yeah. Alright. Hold on. You say, Roger in the distance. Yes.
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Alright.
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Sorry, Paul. Golly. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
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This is this is John from Missouri, also known as ex gentile. I'm Hebrew, not Jewish. I just wanna make sure that's clear. Alright. I used to get called to jury duty every six months for ten years. But when I became a national, I took my paperwork with me, and I gave it to the judge. And when I gave it to him, you know, they they said the case was they sent me a letter the next day saying the case had been canceled, but that's that was three year three year no. That was four years ago, and I've never been called back since. And like I said, it was like clockwork every six months. But ever since I gave them my turned in my affidavit, they've never bothered me or anything, and I I agree with y'all. I think we need to be writing down where there we are not jurors of their you know, peers of their the jury. So
[01:22:07] Unknown:
anyways, I just wanna confirm that. Okay. Thank you, John. Now Paul on the oh, no. Paul. Hold on. I can't get to you, Paul. Hold on. There's a female there. Yes, ma'am?
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Someone is trying to say That might I think she That might have been me just to thank you.
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Okay. Oh, you're welcome. Okay. I don't know. Paul, you better get it in quick, buddy.
[01:22:31] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I really don't have to get it in quick because I do have control over the mute button. But, anyways, there are two systems of law at play here. There's the jury trial, which is administrative procedure, administrative court, and then there's trial by jury, which is article three or common law court. You're not gonna be on a trial by jury. You're not going to you're not subject to the system of law that they are using to decide guilt or innocence. So if you go in there as a national thinking that you're gonna nullify the jury by by making a decision not only based on the evidence or the facts of the case, but also the validity of the law as you understand it, you're gonna cause a mistrial.
Your the judge is going to threaten you with, jury tampering. All kinds of goofy stuff can happen. Alright? You that's not your bailiwick. That's not where you belong. Tell them you're not a citizen. You're not a resident with respect to legal the legal definition and that you have no business being there. Done deal. Okay.
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Okay. That's kinda what I was could tell. You could write them back and say, do you ever hear of the Jim Crow laws? I'm Whitey and Jim Crow. You're Jim Yeah. Question. Yeah. Okay, Joe. What what do you got?
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You know, here I am. I'm near one of the oldest ones. If not well, I think you're a month or two older than I am, Roger. But,
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I cannot understand. Did some am I did I get disconnected?
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No. You're there. Hello? You're there. I Can you not hear Joe? I'm
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I cannot understand
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why
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anyone would not and please let me finish on this. Would not want to serve on a jury because if you two reasons. If you ever had if you have ever been sued and taken to court in a jury trial, and I have seen a stacked jury. In all my years that I have been a registered voter, I have never once been called to jury duty. Never once. And they know I would like to serve because I have a chance if I get on a jury to help defend an someone who might be an innocent person or be wrongly convicted. And secondly, it's a chance for me to throw sand in their gears and bearings.
You know, it might be you getting sued. And if nobody wants to serve, you're going to pay a big price
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in the comment. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Who else for Kaye? Kaye, you're a popular gal. Kaye? Oh, if I may. Yes. If I may, yes. Hi, Roger.
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Could you hear me okay now?
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Better. Let's see. And who who who have we got?
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This is Dave's wife, Pam. So I agree with the man that just spoke in regards to especially all of the people that are on these calls that know the difference, and know the different, the legal aspect and the lawful aspects. And to have that opportunity to go into that position and educate them, I think it would be an honor to be able to go in there and do that. And just, you know, just the little nuggets that you're able to, seed within those, conversations would really give those other people that don't have the education that you all have at this roundtable conversation. I think it would be fantastic for them to learn.
So that's all I had to say. Hi, Yield.
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Okay. Thank you, Pam. Thank you. Now, who else? K. We might have exhausted them.
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Oh, alright. 12 angry men. 12 angry men. Whew.
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Yes. There's Hey, Roger. Roger. Yep. Right. Trying to get you. Yep.
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This this is John from Missouri again. You know, I did I tried that route, and I went in there, and I tried to help innocent people. I stood up and I said, I think the one instance was a guy was, you know, being convicted for drugs. I stood up and I said, I feel my view is the same as Ron. Drugs is declaring a war on itself. And that's how I feel about it. And the guy looked at the guy that was being charged and said, do you want him as a juror? And he said, no. And they let me go. And I tried to help the guy, but they they don't even understand themselves.
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So that was in Vordire,
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Okay. Yep.
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Well, I'm gonna tell you my little story here. Anybody else got something for Kaye? If not, I got a story. He's probably he might be listening today. Actually, he's my Yes, sir. Dear friend. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.
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Roger, Dave, New York. You know, I I I wanna it's so funny I tuned in today because I'm I'm responding to one of those summons or requests, and, they used this all capitalized name. And I'm going to request that they send it using using my name if they're trying to speak to me, the other and and, pointing out that that that is a a deprecated name, an altered name, and, we could even go as far as as requiring them not to, do anything monetarily with my name and by changing my name. But I'm not gonna go that far. I just wanna show them that I'm a kook, and they don't want me.
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Okay. All caps name, which is not my name. You're not referring to a living man. Yeah. Right. Well, you could just say you're a member of FEJA, fully informed jury association. They'll spit you right back out. So, tell them you're a national. There's a lot of things you can do with it. And I think really under the real legal scrutiny is we shouldn't be in there judging them on some statutory crime that we that they couldn't charge us with. We can't be in there judging it for somebody else, I don't think. In the end, it's your decision.
Some people wanna participate. Some people don't. My friend Okay. In, like a son to me in Panama City, Jeff, you may be listening. He listens occasionally.
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And he's never put his paper Robert, it's really hard to hear you. There's so much background noise. Could everybody mute that's not talking, please? There's just so much noise. It's hurting my ears.
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Wow. I don't hear any of that, Dave. So I don't know what's going on there. But regardless, my friend, Jeff, he's like a son to me at home, and, he has not put in his paperwork yet. He's threatened to. And, he got called to jury duty on a murder trial. And it was a case where it was, out in the trailer parks, and there was this the the guy was an alcoholic and boisterous, and he beat beat the little gal up before and stuff like that. And she's a little diminutive thing. And he had a 45 in the trailer. And he had left, and he was gonna come back, and she wouldn't standing in the trailer wasn't gonna let him in because of their previous experience and their argument or whatever.
And so she went and grabbed that 45, not knowing that he had taken it to a gunsmith and had it honed down to a super hair trigger. And in that situation, she accidentally pulled the trigger and killed him. And so Jeff was on that jury. And, and he said, Roger, you wouldn't have believed it. He said, they brought the gun in. They brought a whole thing of ammo in that fitted 45 ammo. And, I had a feed you brochure, a little pocket constitution, and I pulled it out, and they almost went nuts. He said they were more scared of that feed you brochure than they were of people having access to guns and ammunition right there in the same room.
So they they fear this stuff, folks. K? Just to put the some icing on the cake there.
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So cake Okay.
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Wow. Arrive. You you can do it. You can do it. You got a lot of ways to do it. You can send them a copy of your affidavit. Say, I don't think I qualify. I'm a national. Whatever. However you wanna handle it. Okay. But I'll keep it Now I'm I don't know. I don't know. There's an important thing we haven't mentioned. You live in one of the most absolute totally corrupt states in the entire union, Connecticut. I
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I know.
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Roger. I know.
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Yes, Larry.
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Well, hold on. Yeah. Can you go over what the, the Fiji is? Can you go over what the Fiji is, please? No. It's Fiji, F I J A, Fully
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Informed Jury Association Dot Org. I think fija.org is the website. It's called jury nullification. And the fact that you can get in there just like Jeff was in that situation and vote that girl innocent because she didn't know it was her trigger on the on the pistol, and overturned the law under the auspices that if that law is bad and they're using it on him, I might be next. This is the theory that was behind the jury in the, the beginning of the country. So, that this was a Red Beckman FIDIA was started by Red Beckman, one of the patriarchs of our movement, no no longer with us. And, that's what it was all about. It's still in operation. You they got a nationwide organization. You go right to the web and drop their website.
Fija, I believe it's probably .org. But, that's the background as much as I know behind it. I can tell you one thing. I take it damn seriously because as I told you, literally, Harvey and I and a couple of guys handing those little booklets out in the parking lot closed down the Richard B Russell Federal Building 1 day. That's how freaked out they were of that.
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Wow. Even even in our current environment, you think? Because our country seems to be somewhat lawless at the moment.
[01:34:15] Unknown:
Well, I'm not sure this was what we did, that was back in the nineties, many years ago. But, yeah, we're going down the lawless path. That's for sure. Hopefully, Trump will be able to straighten some of it out. But he got he got elected as captain of the ship, and three quarters of the crew won a mutiny. That that's the problem he's got right now. And getting things young, he can command them with the EO, but the people down the bureaucracy that that are loyal to the other side just don't execute the order or screw something up or they sabotage it. There's all kinds of that going on. Now two, three people wanna talk, go.
[01:34:56] Unknown:
This is Larry. I was just following up with another question. Do you think the reason being that that brochure, teaches the, prospective juror that they deter they determine the laws and the facts and the, government doesn't want that information to get out? That that's exactly why. I would
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Exactly. Roger, I have one more right on the head. Yes, ma'am, Kaye.
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Just one more thing. When we did our affidavits, we weren't calling ourselves nationals. That came maybe a year later. Yeah. At It's been a long time. Yeah. But I've not done anything because, you know, I, what I did was right for the time, and it and it's still right. In other words, I so let them decide what I am. You know? They didn't. They didn't object. I'm like this.
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They didn't object. I'm sorry? They didn't object. Not at all. Well, you you're you're clean. You're golden.
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Okay. Not a not a p.
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Yes. Yes. Now is is it Karen k author?
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Yes. It is. Yes. Good. I sent you that Cal Sieden link from it's from Samuel. Oh, high school. On serving on jury duty. If you read that experience, I think you're gonna get a lot out of it. It's pretty interesting piece.
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Great.
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Great. It's a very firm you know, we're the only country in the world that have juries. You know, Larry was asking the other day some of the differences between common law and the law of the city. This is a big one right there, Larry. We're the only ones that have juries. We're the only country in the world, according to Brent, that have juries still. Otherwise, you got tribunals, you know, with one bench trials and people dictating, did you do this regulation? This, that, years. Well, that prescribed it then. Here's the punishment. Bam.
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So, anyway Yeah. Interesting. Roger, they don't have your reason Great Britain.
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Roger, I also sent a link to Paul if he wants to post that article. Okay.
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Thank you, Samuel.
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I I will look forward to reading it. It it'll blow you away. Believe me. I don't think I don't think they do. I think they'll be in trouble. It it it's really interesting. Is there any way to use silver to, set the cord?
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Is there any way to use silver to adjust the cord? If you went in with, yeah, to set the cord, if you, you went in and, you know, because who knows what this trial is about. Right? It's a but, I don't think you know, right, what the case the specific case is. No. If you went in if you went in in chambers and said to the judge, hey. Here's 21, you know Yeah. Grain dollars of of, per the coinage act and, try to set the court as a common court, he would become the trustee instead of being, you know,
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telling telling the law and telling the all the positions and all that. We're we're talking about jury duty here, not a trial.
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Mhmm.
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So, Roger. And the common law, the circumstances can set the court. Those state courts are are wearing both hats. And it depends on the circumstances and the judge's opinion on which path they follow, the law of the city or the common law. Okay? But the common laws in all states except Louisiana. Only one. Now who was trying to say something?
[01:38:33] Unknown:
Right. It was Larry. It says, AI says many countries around the world utilize jury trials with variations in how they are used. Common law countries like The United States, Canada, Australia, and The United Kingdom, which includes England and Wales, are known for their jury systems often used in both criminal and civil trials. However, not all countries utilize juries for all types of cases. Some countries like Austria, Belgium, France, and Germany employ mixed tribunals where lay jurors and professional judges work together. In some cases, juries are only used for the most serious criminal offenses.
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Okay. And they used to have them, but I think all those countries besides us have phased them out as much as possible. So I'm I'm gonna disagree a little bit with AI. K? Yes. The foundation was there, but they're phasing those away. And, so, anyway, you asked Brynn about it on Friday, Larry. So, Kaye Roger? Yes. Samuel? Well, never mind. Samuel's here. Yes, sir.
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Oh. Just a short opening from that article. She's saying here, it says, too few of those called are and eventually serve on the jury are selected because their knowledge of the law. Our current judicial system seems to prefer prefer those who are ready to follow instructions rather than adjudicate true justice based on their heartfelt beliefs. That's their opening. Very accurate.
[01:40:16] Unknown:
Very accurate. Very accurate. They want pliable little well, they can grab you by the little nose and just lead you down. You're gonna say, now this is what you do. Now I decide the law. I'm gonna give you the law, but you apply the facts of the case you've seen to that law. And it's not supposed to be that way. John when John died, Kaye, he was writing a book on the importance and the fact that he thought the jury was the last defense for us having a republican form of government. Other people have had really strong opinions on the jury over the millennia or the last couple hundred years, and you can go read about it if you wanna put that much time into it. Your deal is you don't want to. It doesn't sound like to me like you want particularly to participate in this activity.
And even in reality, I don't think you're right now. I don't think you're I don't think you're qualified to. So I think that clears your conscience even if you did. Yes, ma'am? May say what you're gonna say. I just interrupted you.
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Oh, I was I'm sorry. I interrupted you, I think. Anyway, I I don't wanna go into everything, but, you know, I just have a lot of work right now. Yeah. Lot. Lots. Like, a couple of deadlines.
[01:41:40] Unknown:
But for the audience, just let me if you wanna put Kaye in a nice little spot, Kaye is the one that brought us Joe Lusticka.
[01:41:50] Unknown:
Thank you, Kaye. That's just a good friend. You know, the other thing I wanted to say, there was one time when I called in about grammar and the book that was being used, and I couldn't remember it. Well, I eventually did ask my editor, and it's the Chicago Book of Style, which is used by for you. Yeah. And so, anyway, that's that's from a long time ago. Many months have gone by, finally going, it's the Chicago Book of Style.
[01:42:22] Unknown:
Is that the same as what they refer to as the Blue Book of Styles, I wonder?
[01:42:28] Unknown:
I don't know. You know, I I don't do the editing, and so I really don't know. I had to ask I don't think it's a a I don't know. I personally, down deep, I don't think so or they would say it now and again. You know? Well, we're just gonna
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It's different. It's different.
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Okay. Those two are different. Okay. Yes. They are. Anyway, that's where you use all the abbreviations and all the what, the capitalization and little things like whenever you quote a Supreme Court case, you always include the year. If the year isn't included, it's misquoted.
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Oh, that's nice to know.
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That's really nice to know. Well, that's why. Because, like, you can always when you hear whatever the decision is, that first question is, well, what time frame did that happen in?
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That's that's why. Are you sure that's a decision, Roger, or is it an opinion?
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Oh, good lord. It's in the book of styles.
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In there, it's in the book of styles. Miss Kaye, I've heard about your your books for years. What what is your pen name, and where would we find your books, please?
[01:43:41] Unknown:
Well, I have a couple. I have three. But I'm only using two of them right now. Karen Kaye is what I write, historical romance, Indian, Native American. And, Ginny Cawthorn is my young adult, pen name that I use for my young adult series.
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And how many books have you published?
[01:44:08] Unknown:
Well, once this one that is, that we just have back from the editor is all edited and proofed and all that sort of thing. It'll be 29.
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Wow. There you go. A bit prolific.
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Prolific.
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Yeah. Boy, if you wanna know somebody that knows a bunch about Indian history and culture, this is the gal
[01:44:31] Unknown:
right here. Indeed. This is this I hate to say it, but it's it's true. You know? Yeah. Right. For certain tribes. I don't know all of the tribes because a lot of the tribes are different. I know most about the Blackfeet, the Blackfoot, the, Crow, the Cheyenne, and the Lakota that you know, but if you were to say, well, how about this these California Indians? I don't know.
[01:44:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Nez Perce, for example.
[01:45:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Nez Perce, what a great tribe, but I don't know very much about them except that they were enemies Gotcha. Of the black skied their I skied their trail. Oh,
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gosh. They have a trail at Jackson Hole.
[01:45:15] Unknown:
You have the Nez Perce? Really?
[01:45:19] Unknown:
Well, it's named after them.
[01:45:22] Unknown:
Oh, it's named after them. Well, they're famous because of, gosh. I wish they had really won. I wish they had gotten to Canada and really had freedom. They were still close.
[01:45:34] Unknown:
Well, I'm not sure the way Canada treated all their Indians, it wouldn't have done a much damn good. So That's true. A travesty. Just a travesty. And I'm part Indian, folks. I've got about my mother was my mother's father, I believe, was a whole blooded Indian. And you know what's interesting, Kaye, is I know from my mother's side of the family there that the family came down the Pea River and settled in Bay County there in the early days. And, and and Dan, Dave and Kaye, who now live in South Alabama, have a piece of land on the Pea River. And they were trying to do research on some of the land around there, and they kept running into my mother's maiden family, the Holly family. I just thought it was really interesting.
You know? So Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And the other day, oh, guess what now? We have a a new listener from up around you, up close to Providence. And in our family history, because that's where the origins of the sales family is, there's a lot of influence in Rhode Island, particularly Providence. And he has verified all that. There's a street one of the main streets or somewhat called Sales Avenue. There's a building at Brown called the Sales Building. There's a Sales Village somewhere, and there's all kinds of sales stuff over in there. So if you and Paul ever take a vacation over to Rhode Island, you might stumble into some of that. And then somebody found George was reading English history and found a very rebellious sales over there that was raising all kinds of hell over there too. So, I come from good stock.
That's okay. Sorry. That's great. It's true. Oh my gosh. It's in the it's in the DNA, I guess. So, anyway, I just thought all that stuff is very confirming for me, but it's very interesting too. And, hey, when you're younger, your background history doesn't mean as much to you as when you get older, I guess, especially these days and times. So, what else what else can we do here, Kaye? Do you have any other questions or other reciprocation? Does anyone have any other answers or comments for Kaye?
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I,
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If I may?
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Yes. You may.
[01:48:06] Unknown:
I'd like to ask Kaye, since she mentioned Joe Lustica, if, she would be able to give out his email maybe after the show.
[01:48:19] Unknown:
You know, I I just need to get his okay first. I I'm happy to do it. I could get I could do it through Roger, but I just wanna ask him first. It's polite. It's the polite thing to do. Particularly Joe day and age. And he's swamped. Absolutely. He's he's swamped. That,
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but
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Yeah. So this is Pam in Michigan, and I did a DOT, and it needed to be updated. And after I did mine, they didn't allow them anymore. So I just wanted to try and find out to get that done. I just wanted to You know, that was the When Go ahead.
[01:48:59] Unknown:
When I'm when I'm done here, I will, email him, and I'll ask him, wait wait a minute. Let me get a pen and paper and take down your name, sir. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
K. Hold it. K. Pam, why don't you just drop me an email at my email address, which I think you know. Right?
[01:49:17] Unknown:
Yes. Well, which one? I I've been sending you things at,
[01:49:22] Unknown:
digital mail. Not Kaye. Not Kaye. Pam. I'll forward it to Joe. I'll I'll take you out of the loop here. Okay? So Pam will send me an email. I'll forward it to Joe. Okay?
[01:49:36] Unknown:
Oh, Roger. That's very kind. Thank you.
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Yep. Okay, Pam. Roger,
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Roger, Joe posted, some links like a playlist for the DOT stuff. So, I can try to grab it right now and then post it in the FCC. And, if if when Joe is on, Pam, you should ask him directly to see if you can, email him because sometimes he doesn't give out, his email. So I don't know if you wanna do that first.
[01:50:11] Unknown:
I'll just forward it to him, and and and I'm sure he'll reach out because Pam has gotten stopped. I I'd like to get clarification. We heard that they've stopped doing it, and then others say they haven't. So I'd like to get some clarification on this because it's a really good remedy on this license tag thing.
[01:50:30] Unknown:
Yeah. And I'm also working on my, DOT, Roger, just, because I'm not planning on using it very long, but just to keep, things safe, when I'm driving around with my daughter.
[01:50:42] Unknown:
How recently did they stop it?
[01:50:45] Unknown:
I don't know, Brent. Somebody came on here and said that one day. I didn't really get the specifics, but it had to be, well, fairly recently, but I don't know for sure. That's the point. We don't know.
[01:50:57] Unknown:
Well, I I thought it was, like, February of twenty four is when they stopped. Roger.
[01:51:04] Unknown:
Paul says February of twenty four is when they stopped.
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Okay.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Thank you. But then we've gotten reports since then that, said, no. That's not true. They're still doing it. And I think that was Joe that brought that to us. So I don't know. There's total uncertainty here, and we probably need to get an answer. We necessitate,
[01:51:26] Unknown:
an answer, and Pam's situation could use, some attention. So if you'll just send me an email, I'll forward it to Joe and ask him if he could help us clear this up. Okay, Pam?
[01:51:39] Unknown:
Roger? Thank you very much.
[01:51:41] Unknown:
You're welcome. You're thank you. Yes, Larry.
[01:51:45] Unknown:
Oh, I do. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I'm pretty sure,
[01:51:48] Unknown:
Joe has mentioned, I think, on an after show that the DOT number is not on the vehicle. It's on the person. So even though you put the DOT number on on a custom made plate or however you display it on your vehicle, if someone else was to drive that vehicle and get stopped, I don't think they can use that remedy because it's on the person. And maybe another student can correct me if I'm wrong. Wow. That's well, that's interesting.
[01:52:17] Unknown:
I would thought it was on the you think he's right, Paul? Oh, I know he's right. You I know he's right. Your DOT number is on the person, and it is only applicable to the vehicle that it is affixed to. Dumb. And,
[01:52:35] Unknown:
well, it's That sounds right. The list That sounds right.
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Under DOT authority. But if you don't have them specifically listed as a driver in your DOT application, your DOT number application, then they don't have any business operating under that DOT number. They have to be listed on on your safe report as, named person.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
They can drive the Yeah. They can drive under that number? Now I'm getting confused. Hold on. If you're if they are listed
[01:53:08] Unknown:
on your DOT number on your your DOT number account, if they're listed as a driver, then they can operate under it. But if you're just gonna borrow lend your car to somebody, no. You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna go in there and, like, mess with your account or anything like that. Okay. I think it's a it's a good reason not to lend, something as lethal as an automobile to somebody.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
Never a good idea. Boris?
[01:53:42] Unknown:
Roger, I just renew my number on February. It's not they they not suspend the numbers. I just renew my end. Okay. So you just renew to any card. You could put yeah. Yeah. I renew my and it's not fixed to any card. You could put it in any card that you are driving, that you're going to travel with. I'll be damned. Okay. Well, then do you have to renew it every year? No. Every two every two years.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Every two years. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Thank you, Maury.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
You're welcome. Roger?
[01:54:18] Unknown:
It's Pam. It sounds like there's some disconnect with what you did. And I know Joe early in that. He was setting up a foreign corporation or something working behind that or a foreign trust or something, and I don't think you have to. We'll see. If you'll send me that, I'll also ask him if he'll come back on the show and go over that for everybody when he can because he's a busy guy. He's got a young family. Yes. Who is the female? Okay?
[01:54:45] Unknown:
That was that was me. I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to everyone who who, you know, piped up and told me what they've done and their opinions.
[01:54:55] Unknown:
I really appreciate it. Thank you. Yep. Well, me too because it took up a lot of good time on the show, and it's a good interesting topic. And, it's very important topic. Just jury things, very important. We're damn lucky to have access to it. Can I say one more thing about that jury? No. Duty? No. No. You can't. We're gonna shut you up for the day. Go ahead, Dave.
[01:55:18] Unknown:
So, you know, the reason I mentioned my my envelope wasn't sealed or signed or had anybody's name on it, it it's really meaningless because if they don't certify it, it's not a summons. You know, they give you these threats, these veiled threats, but it's it's all bogus. It's just like the the, what's her name? Missus Robinson letters? Yeah. It's it's just, it's a bunch of BS. So I guess you you know, and they've got enough people that volunteer, you know, to go to jury duty in their system. And I I love everything everybody said about, you know, hey. We would we really need this jury notification stuff. But if it's not a jury of your peers and they're not all nationals,
[01:56:08] Unknown:
it's very difficult to win in that situation. Right? They give you a few wins, but mostly you get losses, and I yield. It's funny. This is Robinson and all these bluff letters they send out. They they pour them and send them to everybody, then all of a sudden, they just stop when they realize they're totally ineffective. Interesting. Yes. There was Kaye and Larry there. Kaye, I'm gonna go with Yes. I'd be careful about, following that advice to ignore
[01:56:34] Unknown:
a jury summons letter because the judge may send the, the sheriff out to fetch you, you know, to arrest you for not showing up. Yeah.
[01:56:44] Unknown:
No. I would all I'm not encouraging you to decide not to respond to
[01:56:49] Unknown:
You proved that you sent it. The the envelope wasn't sealed, and it had nobody's name or signature on it. Come on. It's a veiled threat. And, and mine was over five years ago. Nobody's contacted me since. I didn't even respond. Just threw it away. Okay.
[01:57:10] Unknown:
Anyway There you go. I yield. Alright. Who else? Got a couple of minutes left here, Kaye. Let me say thanks for dropping by, sweetie. I'm a hate that you did it on a problem. Kaye was one of the real early listeners back around with John Kasarab when we first started putting this information out, and you were you were pretty fresh off that beat, and they gave you in court over the house. Weren't you?
[01:57:34] Unknown:
I was. I I don't I don't really wish to ever repeat it again. I was. Still breezy. I would get breath out of it. We just yeah. But I had kept him busy for two years in court. Yeah.
[01:57:47] Unknown:
Yeah. The wounds were still fresh when Kaye stumbled onto us, and, I hope they're healed now. You know, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Right? So as painful as those situations were and are, the important thing is you learn your lesson for them and or turn around set goals from them. Like, I'm gonna beat those sons of Satan bitches, and I'm gonna expose them to everybody I can. They always make their own worst enemies, k. So, that's why we're here. Paul Paul English. He looks like you. Got a house rolling. No? Yep. Go ahead, Kaye. Again?
[01:58:27] Unknown:
After something like that, you look for, people like you who have a message that, you know, that can calm that whole area. Yes. Do you know right after you've after you've experienced something like that, it was two years. Boy, did I come out of there, with a whole lot more knowledge than I went in it with.
[01:58:49] Unknown:
Yeah. And anger probably too. And now you've stumbled on us, and you and your husband have both gotten educated. And and with bit of times gone under the bridge, and, you're Kaye's very feisty, folks, if you haven't taken that from our conversation with her so far today. She's the one that her persistence in in notifying local officials there in her state and, continuing to go to the secretary of state, and they go, well, do you have an account with us? We don't you you owe us money and this, that, and the other. We finally said, well, that's not the place to go. Let's go to the attorney general. So that this that step in the process is all from Kaye. Okay?
So thank you, sweetie, for everything you and hubby have done.
[01:59:37] Unknown:
Thank you. It's good to talk to y'all again. Yeah.
[01:59:40] Unknown:
Well, y'all drop by and see us, but I know you're anybody that's published 29 books, folks, is busy. Okay? And as you can tell, Kaye is There's a deadline.
[01:59:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Especially when there's a things.
[01:59:54] Unknown:
My grandchildren. Grandchildren. Is, is your grandson still playing? Is he playing guitar? Is he still tutoring under, Joe?
[02:00:04] Unknown:
Not now. Not now because he's involved in so many sports.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Okay. Oh, he's a sports kid. Okay. Well, I understand that. Alright. We'll see you at the show, you folks. I hope you enjoyed today and get a little glimpse into the past with another one of our former students who we don't hear from enough. But, these are the kind of people that are lurking in the background that have been touched by this information. And, Kaye, I'll let you agree with me. But would you say it's changed you and your husband's lives?
[02:00:36] Unknown:
Completely. Yeah. There you go. Knowledge it the not just the knowledge itself is powerful.
[02:00:43] Unknown:
Yep. You know? So and they're empowered. Yeah. So well, we love you both, sweetie, and thanks for coming by and visiting with us. And, I hope we got to give you some direction from the multitudes that wanted to talk to you. Otherwise, tomorrow is going to be Friday, and we'll be back with Brent Winters, of course. Yes, ma'am? You got a parting word?
[02:01:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Just thanks again. And Oh, you're so welcome. Colonized to know that too.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
Yep. Well, this is the kind of family that we build here off this information, folks. And it's a very well, it's very gratifying for me, and, it's just such a it just gives your life purpose. Helping others see the illusion and come out of it gives your life great purpose. And, so I encourage you to do it. Otherwise than that, anybody got anything for me? Roger? Boris.
[02:01:40] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. I just got one more thing for you. Yes. This stuff change your life a lot a lot a lot. I never see so much money in my life, and I even get off from taxes from Amazon, from Walmart. Every corporation, I'm getting off the tax roll, and they assess you with your face of work. Well, good for you, Boris. Thank you, Roger. Thank you. The land of the land of ready, Mark. Hunting.
[02:02:08] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else? That feels good to have changed people's lives, folks. It's a really strong feedback loop. Yes, sir? I posted,
[02:02:18] Unknown:
I posted, Mark Kornke's, interview link in the chat twice Yeah. Okay. Just a few minutes ago. So Alright. Thank you, Brent.
[02:02:30] Unknown:
Mark from Michigan. He's another fixture with the exception of being in jail there for those seven years. He's been part of the Patriot scene since I got into it. Happy to say that I did shake his hand one time many years ago. So, anybody else got something for the Raj? Well, then listen. We'll be back tomorrow with Brent. And, you know, I love each and every one of you, and, you know why. And I hope you understand it. And we'll continue to grow and take it one day at a time. So have a good rest of the one, and we'll see what goes on the rest of the day and what what mood Brent's in tomorrow.
So because you never know. We may talk law. We may talk religion. We may talk the Bible. There's no telling with him, and, I love it. So, we'll see y'all tomorrow with Brent. Thank you, Paul, for everything you do. Paul's got, his gig this afternoon with Paul English and the gang over there. You wanna promote that?
[02:03:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I I actually haven't been sitting in on that show for, like, the last few weeks. Paul English is doing, like, a, a format change where he is having, guests come in and things like that.
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Yeah. They mentioned that he wanted to invite me the other day.
[02:03:56] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So I probably I think that's I don't know. That's I may or may not be on there again until you are. So we'll see. Well, we'll find out. I'm expecting him to reach out to me on that any day, and,
[02:04:08] Unknown:
I'm I'm flattered. And I think it's a great opportunity, and I enjoy I just really enjoy doing shows with Paul or just having a conversation with him. He's a delightful, delightful guy. So, anyway, we'll see you all tomorrow. And thank you very much, and I love each and every one of you. Ciao.
[02:04:27] Unknown:
Thank you, Raj. Hey, Scratch. You're falling down on the dinner bell.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
There you go.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
I did want I did wanna mention that, I listened to a short interview with James Colbert Corbett Corvette report, about a fellow who has an organization called You Are the Power. And they got people. They got, kids back from the c CPS, and they also, got the the mayor and the individual on the city council. I don't know if anybody remembers, but, it was a a young lady that had her daughter with her, and she confronted the city council, and they arrested her. They got those the mayor fired. And, if anybody could hook up with them, it would just empower them more with the coming nationals. So I just wanted to put it out there. It's called youarethepower.net.
And there's a short interview with the founder
[02:05:41] Unknown:
on James Corbett report. I yield. And you put that in the chat?
[02:05:47] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:05:48] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. K. Anybody else?
[02:05:56] Unknown:
A question for the gentleman that was, the not paying the tax, the sales tax. Did you notify the the different corporations of your national status, like their law department? Yep. Okay.
[02:06:13] Unknown:
You just you just go up to, like, their customer service counter and you say, I need, I need a form for tax exempt status, And they just give it to you. You fill it out and, have a copy of the, affidavit that you you give with it, and they should, make a note of you in their system that you're tax exempt.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
Because I did go to Walmart, and they gave me a form. It was it was like, the Idaho form was more for resellers kinda. Like,
[02:06:43] Unknown:
But
[02:06:44] Unknown:
Well for, unless there was a space on there, I didn't understand.
[02:06:53] Unknown:
Well, the actual stores are the ones that are supposed to be paying the sales tax. Just they all they all got together and they said, well, hey. Let's let the customers pay the sales tax. But they were the ones originally supposed to pay it.
[02:07:14] Unknown:
Right. So that's why I'm wondering if I have to edit the state form or something, like, to reflect. Because none of the none of the grammar that I could understand in that form was related to, like, an individual unless they were, like, I don't know, handicap. I guess we're handicapped. Right? We're under the ADA. We're we're, we're large we're, all caps, name handicapped.
[02:07:45] Unknown:
Well, absolutely.
[02:07:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know who, maybe I could get that form. I'm actually walking to the store right now. Get that form and then read it off to the to the audience and see what they thought. Or was that Jesse? Was that the No. That was Bory.
[02:08:03] Unknown:
Bori, are you still here? Hello, Bori.
[02:08:10] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here, Paul. He's done working. I was listening to him. Hey, Sam. You go to the website. It's a tax exempt, site in in the website, and you fill up the site and send your paperwork, and they're gonna tell you to send a certificate. The the certificate is from your state. You have to go to your revenue department in your state, and they give you the form. You have to ask for the form for tax exempt in your state. You fill it up, send it to them, and all set up with the affidavit, the letter that you sent to the income tax, and, that's it. Three papers. The affidavit, the, letter that you sent to the income tax, the IRS, and then the certificate from your state.
[02:09:09] Unknown:
And it's the State Department of Revenue that you get that form from?
[02:09:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It's a you ask your you call your revenue department, and you ask for the tax exempt, form because you're an an astronaut, and they help you with it. They even tell you which form do you need to fill up.
[02:09:31] Unknown:
Okay. So I'll call our our state revenue because they put 6% even on food.
[02:09:37] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:09:41] Unknown:
That's that's rough. I I will talk to revenue. Yeah. Thank you. And that way, I'd make sure because it looked like I would be doing a criminal act if I filled out the forms at the stores, the state forms at the form at the stores have. And even on the rep even on the revenue website, form that I filled out or, print download or printed was the same thing. It was for, like, resellers of stuff and aerospace and all this other jazz. And so I I like your idea there, boy, to call revenue and say, hey. I'm I'm a tax exempt national. You know, what do I fill out and then kinda get it from the horse's mouth?
[02:10:19] Unknown:
Yeah. If you get a tax number from the secretary of state of your state, that just means that the the state revenue department is going to be reaching out to you to collect the sales taxes because you sold something to someone else. And with that status, you have to charge sales tax to the end user, and then that puts the hook on you. Yeah. You don't wanna do that.
[02:10:48] Unknown:
Right. George?
[02:10:53] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:10:54] Unknown:
Didn't you get, Jon Voigt's sales receipt from Walmart that said tax is paid by the government? Sent that about last year.
[02:11:09] Unknown:
No. No. What what is it called?
[02:11:12] Unknown:
I don't know what it's called. He sent me a copy of the actual receipt. I might still have it. I sent it to everybody that was applicable. He's real close to you in Idaho, and he went in and bought some stuff. And he said something about tax exempt and whipped out his card, and it came back with a really long ticker that said, the government paid his tax. Next sale they called the sales manager. Sales manager comes over and says, I've never seen this before. Yeah, baby. I'll try to dig I'll try to dig it up for you, but it won't be in the next ten minutes.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
No worries. I'll check my text string with you. Do you think you texted it or emailed it?
[02:11:55] Unknown:
No. It's a text. I sent it to a lot of people.
[02:12:08] Unknown:
I'm done.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Thank you, Sheldon. Anybody else?
[02:12:17] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul.
[02:12:20] Unknown:
No problem. Alright. Well, then let's, let's take the stream down. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Got you here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. You can also find more information on the topics discussed by going to the matrixdocs.com. That is the matrixdocs.com. There's new student section. There's links to the live streams, free conference call. You can join us live on the show, downloadables, exhibits. Oh my goodness. Like I say, pack a lunch, stay the day. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll catch you right back here next time on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye now.
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[02:13:25] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Technical Issues and Broadcasting Challenges
Discussion on Israel and Iran
Critique of Political Figures and Media
Mark Kornke's Background and Influence
Citizen Journalism and Media Platforms
Judge Jeanine's Appointment
White House Power Dynamics
COVID-19 Vaccine Recommendations
Jury Duty and Civic Responsibility
DOT Numbers and Legal Implications
