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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles delves into a variety of topics ranging from the intricacies of the U.S. monetary system to the legal nuances of national status. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the fraudulent nature of mortgages and the historical context of money, touching on how promissory notes are monetized and the implications of double-entry bookkeeping. Roger and his guests also discuss the importance of understanding trust law, with insights from Mark on how to protect personal and business assets through private trusts.

As the conversation unfolds, the show shifts focus to the legal battles faced by individuals challenging the system, including traffic violations and IRS disputes. The episode highlights the power of affidavits and the importance of understanding one's rights as a national. The hosts also touch on the broader geopolitical landscape, discussing the influence of the internet on global awareness and the shifting power dynamics in international relations. Throughout the episode, listeners are encouraged to question the status quo and seek knowledge to empower themselves against systemic injustices.

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Hatch the ridge,  

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Alrighty. So would we. We're gonna   gonna swing away at it again for another couple hours. Got a good group here assembled, I'm sure. Nice   freedom   freedom seeking folks.   Here at the Radio Ranch on the May 28, our date, Stamped Roger Sales, your host   and moderator for the next couple of hours, and, we're assisted by a number of other platforms   and, that help us extend our reach to, lord   knows, I'm telling how many people.   Whether they click on that or not is another story, but we're there for them. And, mister Beaner, one Paul Beaner, is the   keeper of said platforms. And usually about this time of the show,   he is,   tapped   to identify them and give them the proper credit and recognition for their assistance, aren't you, sir Paul?  



[00:02:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I, kinda have something to do.   Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.   We are on radiosoapbox.com   for the entire two hours of the program.   The first hour of the show, we're on one zero six twenty nine WBOU   FM in Chicago,   USA.   That is brought to us by the NET family of broadcast services, which also includes   homenetwork.tv,   freedom nation Tv, go live tv, and streetlife.tube.   We are also   on our flagship station, eurofolkradio.com.   That is brought to us by our bud, pastor Eli James,   and we're on Global Voice Radio Network, the link for that.   And Eurofolks,   are on the matrixdocs,   d 0 c s, Com.  

Our website where you can also find links to free conference call and join us live   on the show.  

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Yep. Honest to goodness. That. You can do that.   Okay. Miraculous.   Yep. It's miraculous. And,   how in the world can the body produce that much mucus?   I mean, you can try and get rid of it every way you can. It just comes right back. So   I think I'm at the tail end of that. I hope it's   it's an aggravating   situation to be sneezing all the time and   and and blowing your nose constantly. This time, though, when I was younger and I'd get these, I'd blow my nose so much that your nose would get real sore even to   soft handkerchiefs, you know. And, but this time, it hasn't done that. So   I don't know if that's a characteristic of age or what. But,   hopefully, I'll be, totally finished with this by the end of this week. It just lingers. You know? The memory still lingers.  

So, anyway, not fun.  

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Mucus is a good thing.   Yes. I know. I know. But it's aggravating thing. And so, anyway It's it's aggravating, but it's the body getting rid of the toxins that you're dealing with. So the mucus is a good thing.  

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I understand.   So I got,   yesterday at lunch, I was went ahead and plunged over lunch and,   but I had to leave a little early because it just took a lot of energy out of me. And,   so, anyway, we'll continue to get better.   Harrison this morning was just   the whole time I was able to listen was wailing on the Israelis.   The whole world's turning against them. And,   boy, it's nice to hear that coming from some you boy, you know,   many, many decades now, I've been studying this, and these guys popped up as the culprits   immediately.  

I'd always wondered when I was even when I was young,   why why are these people so hated?   You know?   And, then in the sixties, I kinda got turned on to the Palestinian   situation and,   what was going on there. And,   I've been aware of that for a long time. And then, of course, after, I got into Patriot Movement, I've mentioned before the   well, it's startling when you get presented with this information for the first time.   And,   I wanted to find out more and ground myself. It's something I've been very curious about already in my life for about twenty years,   and, because of the Palestinian situation and the historical reputation of these people.  

And so you go in and start, researching the five w's, who, when, what, where, and why. Those are the an investigative reporter, that's what they use, supposedly. Used to in the old days when it was decent.   That's the, directions they'd use on investigating a story. Well, the two most important   w's there are who and why.   And you can't look very far before you start finding out all this. And then, of course, for all these years, their power has been such that   the minute you, even try and voice these concerns, you're labeled and   and, beaten back with the with labels.  

There is that mucus, Paul.  

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There you go.  

[00:07:22] Unknown:

Beaten back with labels and all that. Well, the the worms turned,   and   the progress of the agenda,   the,   the the the the fatale part of this is that   the whole thing's because the monetary system is a debt system and implodes upon itself.   They've known that since it started. We didn't.   But now they're trying to do everything   they can   to try and get people away from knowing that that's what's happening.   And the war's distraction and the they prop it up,   with things. You know, I I look at,   I look at derivatives as scaffolding,   ways that they go in underneath the building that was about to to to implode and prop it up.  

And they've done that and done that and done that until it's just about undoable anymore,   and hence their desperation.   The   the the eurozone,   the EU, now now including Britain again evidently,   has declared a twenty to thirty year war against Russia because that's the only way they can keep the monetary system going.   The war necessitates   and increases printing   so they can,   of course, supply war materials and and   and provoke this war and sustain it. And that's the only way they can keep   things going. The it's just they bit off more than they can chew.   They have not been able to advance their agenda. We've woken up because of a number of things.  

I I really if you try and boil this all down, Paul,   it goes back to a little clip. You can probably maybe still find it on YouTube with Eustace Mullins before he that great man passed.   And,   he said, well, god was merciful on us, and he gave us the Internet.   Now now that's true that the Internet is the reason for all this stuff we're seeing right now. And I remember   when,   when I was still living in Atlanta out there in Marietta in East Cobb County,   Sprayberry Road area. Some of you from Atlanta know certainly know that area,   of Marietta. And,   about   three miles from my house was Newt Gingrich's   office   there and across from the school. And,   he wrote a book. He didn't write a book. He wrote a foreword for a book   by the Tofflers   called The Fourth Turning.  

That may ring a bell with some of the people in the audience.   The Fourth Turning.   And Newt the toot, as I call him, Newt the toot Gingrich,   wrote the forward to it.   And in that piece, he told them   this was gonna happen.   He said you're laying out this Internet. You wanna use it to,   further your goals, and it's two way. And they it doesn't in run around your established communications.   And here we are. Thank you, Newt.   So,   they're getting exposed, and they're desperate.   And,   it's it's wonderful to see. I never thought I'd see this. A lot of these things, I never thought I'd live to see, and   I have, and it's, wonderful.  

So, anyway, the more we can,   expose these sorry ass bastards for what they're doing,   and they're about to go into evidently civil war over there. The country is so divided.   You know, I was listening to a bunch of, well,   more than I usually would consistently of e Michael Jones.   We talked about it yesterday. We had,   Paul   popped in with us, and that   comment from your show last week, Paul,   is what brought him to the surface. I didn't know he was along with us, and,   it was the fact that Cromwell, after they killed him,   they hung him in a cage,   I don't know where, outside a parliament or somewhere,   and they left him hang Cromwell. They left him hanging there until his body separated from his head.  

The body rotted to such that it separated from his head. Yikes,   Well, that brought Paul on yesterday. And,   so, that was   it's very interesting to see the these people   get the exposure they're getting. And not only that, the, the the backlash they're getting. There's, you know, the TikTok thing. When Trump was in the first time, they wanted to ban TikTok. He never could get it done. And   then all of a sudden, this Gaza thing pops up, and there's all kinds of truth on TikTok with these young people evidently. And that's when Greenblatt up there at the ADL went. You're maybe heard the conference call he was on with a bunch of these other   Jew bastards and,   saying, well,   for for I what'd you say? For every   fifteen minutes, they'd   ascertain this somehow. For every fifteen minutes that a young person spends on TikTok, they become 30% more antisemitic.  

That's why you saw the big push on TikTok. Okay?   And, so it's getting exposed, and it's wonderful to see. And the more exposure, the better. So if you would like to remove yourself from being a I call myself a Jew slave,   then, we you found the right place.   I don't know how long you've been looking. I don't know where you've been looking, but, we can help you here and remove you and remove those chains and those shackles from you off of these sorry ass pieces of crap   Jew bastards.   And the world is waking up to you, and I even their traditional allies. I think we're about the last one.   Even the European allies, and I'm not sure how allied we are with them now,   because, prayers were answered, and mister Trump has become aware of them and is not doing b b not and I'm a yoyo yahoos bidding.  

Okay?   So God bless, and he does answer prayers, and, there's some progress there. Quite frankly, I never thought I'd see. Somebody's wrestling papers or chewing on gum or something there. Would you like to make a comment?   Or you just continue to do do that?   Nope. Please stop doing it. Okay.  

[00:13:53] Unknown:

Let me find him. Looks like Sheldon's microphone is unmuted.  

[00:13:58] Unknown:

Oh, well, there's Mark. That's right. It's Wednesday. It's Mirkolas. Or   Sheldon, did you have something to say? Mark, all caps, is with us, and it's always pleasure.  

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Good to be here. Sheldon, was that you? Your your name in all capital letters does not   convey jurisdiction.  

[00:14:16] Unknown:

It doesn't do it. If you think it does it, you're wrong.   So I get that old patriot mythology stuff. I'm not saying those people did that intentionally. They thought that was an answer.   They were looking for an answer, weren't they? They're they were looking desperately. They couldn't find it. They saw two dots that looked like they connect. They connected them. And from from here to four to the end of time, it applies. Okay. It's almost impossible to get that out of people's heads once it's in there.   And my my finding  

[00:14:50] Unknown:

I know. Hey. I was one of those early ones that was told that and trusted people that I knew were telling me the truth and couldn't find out. They didn't know either. You know? Yep. So, now one thing I I must say, even though Dan Meador was   under the impression it was Admiralty Law because he fought with the IRS as well.   And he had a videotape where they come and towed not only his car,   but   his son in law's,   car that didn't have anything to do with the IRS.   They should've been in the driveway. They were gonna take it anyway.   Yeah. Unbelievable.  



[00:15:29] Unknown:

They should have been able to get that one back.  

[00:15:32] Unknown:

Well,   they actually got them both back, I think. But it wasn't until they brought them up for sale.   And they went to the sale, and Dan had called two IRS excuse me. Called two,   local sheriff's   deputies   out to the sale.   And when they got there, and I think they knew Dan,   he was pretty pretty well known in the Ponca City community,   Kaye County.   He, he said, now did you guys take an oath to uphold the constitution of The United States and of Oklahoma? And they both shook their heads up and down. Yes.   Then he turned to this IRS agent. Her last name was, I think, Snow, if I'm not mistaken.   And she started shaking and her face got red.  

And Dan says, do you have a court order to sell my property?   Because if you don't, I'm gonna have these two sheriff's deputies arrest you for for stealing my property.   And her eyes got real big and she signed, releases right there on the spot.   And they were able to get their cars out of there.   Now I don't know how long they've been sitting there, but, you know, the the sheriff's deputies,   what could they say?   Yeah. We have we we took a note up on the constitution,   and, oh, man. I wish we weren't here.  

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Yeah.   Well, it appears that they were just harassing Dan then. This taking of the second car would indicate that.   And, evidently, for her to back off like that, they didn't have the proper process behind it   that would have allowed them to do a self help remedy of claiming Dan's car   and selling it like that. That That would be my my suspicion here.   They were just being hateful like they are. Why do you think we call them the individuals representing self help remedy. For god's sakes.  

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I don't know what part of self help remedy.  

[00:17:26] Unknown:

Not not with the IRS.   I   mean, you don't have a contract with them to just take your property without   due process.  

[00:17:34] Unknown:

Well, they they finagle all these dings, things like push code o nine and whatever else to weaponize the system to scare people like we see evidence on here all the time.   But,   and without   without the due process behind it.   Yeah. So I agree. Yeah. They're, that I like I was saying a minute ago, why do you think we call them the individuals representing Satan?  

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Yep.  

[00:18:04] Unknown:

Hey, Tom. Tom b.  

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Hey.   They tried that crap   to take my  

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take my waste When is that? Back in the Well, we're you're it's hard to understand what you're saying, Tom. I hate to say that to you, but   whatever   configuration you oh, that about a %  

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something like that. I just I listened to you on the headset, but,   so they tried they tried to come and take,   my wife's vehicle thinking it was mine. And,   the,   she stood them stood them down at the door, and, the the IRS said he didn't care whose vehicle was he taking it. And they they had a local cop there, and the cop literally had to grab the guy by the arm and said, no. You're not. You know, we gotta go. You can't do this. So,  

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and that was basically the end of that. So Well, that's another thing you see is they can't come into your state or your county   and go taking things without having the sheriff's cooperation.   They'll always have a law enforcement officer with them.  

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Yeah. Well, that was their downfall.   So   We like to hear about their downfall. Did somehow. Funny. I sent you I just sent you I I sent you and Mark a video this morning   about half hour before the show started for, it it looks like Ireland is going to bring Israel to the world court and charge them with genocide,   but yet they're still taking,   money for transporting,   weapons and stuff through their their country. So there's   a little video there for you.  

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The Irish are really prone does part of them are really prone to the Zionists   because evidently, when they kicked the Jews out of England I don't remember. Was that Longshanks that did that?   I I'm I'm not quite on top of my English history as much as I should be, but one of the, kings   kicked them out of England, and a bunch of them went to Ireland.   A a while back on the show here, that subject came up, and we were talking about it.   And there was a Jew that wrote a book on money lending back in the nineteen twenties, I think.   And you cannot   find a copy of that book anywhere.  

I don't remember the name the title. Don't remember the Jews' name, but he wrote that book. It was in,   publications. People wrote about it, but, boy, you can't find a copy of it.   So Ireland's rife with the bastards,   and I'm not sure which side, if it was the Catholics or the Protestants,   that were helping them   smuggle arms   into,   Satan's sandbox there in the early days.   And, so much so that they've got a statue of him,   down there in,   Satan's sandbox itself   of the Irish guy that helped them so much. So they are prone,   part of Ireland. I don't know which half is prone to   sympathy with these   bastards,   these sorry bastards   that have that have terrorized the world for thousands of years.  

They're finally getting their exposure.   So, anyway, just a side note, sidebar.  

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Okay. Tom start bringing that to your attention.  

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Thank you, sir. We'll look, we'll look for the video there, see   what happens. I was quite pleased yesterday for Paul to,   offer to have me on over there with Paul, you and the bunch, I guess, on, some kind of a regular basis once a month or something like that. So,   I'll probably hear from him in the next day or two on that, and we'll see if we can solidify something a little more. But that's that's kinda good. I can get over there in the in the sandbox with you guys.   Mhmm.   Tell me the background on the guy from Minnesota,   the American.  



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Patrick.  

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I guess.  

[00:22:12] Unknown:

Yeah.   He's,   well, he's a farmer.   Works,   doing warehousing,   and   he is   he does a lot of   Internet broadcasting,   both music, and he's kinda connected with the whole radio soapbox crew.  

[00:22:36] Unknown:

Yes. They're, I wondered how he made it onto the show.  

[00:22:42] Unknown:

Well,   it it's   Paul just came across him.   You know? I, I really don't know the history or backstory of that.  

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Mhmm. Okay.  

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So  

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Alright.   So, anyway, it'll be fun when that happens. We'll see how that develops.   Quite   a compliment for Paul to ask me to be over there with you guys. So I appreciate that a lot.   Maybe I've got something to add. I hope we do.   And,   so what else? Mark, you've been doing alright, buddy.  

[00:23:19] Unknown:

Doing good. Getting ready for this next,   group of students to go through the trust   classes coming up June 3. So there's still time for people to enroll if they want. Cool. If you need if you'd like more information on that, you can email me at mark. That's m r a car the   Try that again. MasinMary,aasinapple,rasinRoger,kasin,uh,kite@Kyke.   Your   kike. No. Kite, k I t e.  

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Mhmm.   They both start with a k.  

[00:23:58] Unknown:

I mean, I'm just Yeah. That that rhymes and it rhymes with bike.  

[00:24:05] Unknown:

Alright. And so that's [email protected].   Your, y o u r, legacy, l e g a c y,   trust, t r u s t, dot o r g.   And it's a private membership association,   help you do   a private trust,   for your family.   And,   we   we have some, really good students that are over there. Julie was one of them, Leland, Louise, and others.   So it's it's been really good, and I'm just about got   our training website,   finished.   So I'm working   like crazy, pedaling as fast as I can between now and and Tuesday, June 3   to,   have some of that training done where we self pay.   And then we'll just we do,   I do three calls a week for open q and a.  

Tuesday nights were reserved for training,   but if I get that pulled over into the membership website, then it'll just be three calls,   a week for   for questions and answers.   And,   Tuesday nights, I used to do training. I probably will still do that to a degree.   And then,   Thursday   and Saturdays were set aside exclusively   for, questions and answers. And then a lot of people that you know, some people that work evenings or they got they got family,   matters that they can't make it Tuesday night or Thursday night,   Saturday afternoon   at 4PM   eastern, three PM central.  

I just have a general open q and a,   session for anybody that has some questions about trust or what they're learning. So,   anyways, it's been really good, and, I've had positive feedback and   excited to do this next class.  

[00:26:07] Unknown:

Yep. And we're all we're proud to offer that service to you,   because I know that Mark is doing it correctly.   And there's just been an area that'll   Well, thank you. A lot of Charlotte. You know, we  

[00:26:22] Unknown:

we, yeah. And I've I've heard that, you know, if you if you talk to   some,   like Julie, she's shopped around for different trust and   including attorneys.   And you can't hardly get a family trust,   for less than $2,500.   And then as she said, they'll give you 80 pages, in her words, 80 pages of a trust   and don't even tell you how to operate it properly.   And and and part of that is they try to make it confusing   or overwhelming who's gonna read through 80 pages of legally legal legalese and gobbledygook   without having to go back to their attorney and pay a hourly fee to get some interpretation.   You know? And a lot of these attorneys   know that that down the road when   when the the people who created the trust are dead and gone,   the heirs to their estate are gonna turn to that attorney   to execute the trust, which we   typically   recommend not having an attorney or a banker   be in charge of executing your trust as a trustee.  

Because   they know the law, and they will finagle every every dime and penny they can get out of that trust and line their own pockets.   So I generally don't recommend doing that. There's ways around it,   and, and it's done privately. So   you should not have to go to the county court to have your   trust decided or executed,   and you should not have to record   your trust with the county. If you do that, if it's a if it's a requirement by the state, that's a statutory trust, and that's not what I'm teaching.   It's a totally private trust.   When the time comes to to transfer property,   the trustee holds a private meeting   with the beneficiaries,   and they go over the trust and talk about what property is supposed to be distributed to who and and how it's supposed to be done, and they execute the trust.  

So, anyway, that's what we're teaching. Also, I have included   a a vehicle trust upfront   so you can put your your vehicle in one trust separately,   our vehicles, plural, each in their own separate trust, motorcycles,   RVs,   you know, anything out on the road is a liability,   and then put your home and household goods   in its own trust, and they're they're kept separate that way.   And,   at the end of the class, once we go through the training,   I'm giving each student their own   software that they can create their trust documents that I teach.   They can do it on their own computer privately.  

We're not exchanging information back over the Internet unless they wanna have a question or want me to re review the final document. So   and that's that's the other thing too. I work with you   one on one. We go over the goal   of how you want your your trust to   be executed or how you want your property to be transferred,   if there's any conditions with that. In other words, we want to make sure whatever your goals are as far as handing property off to your beneficiaries,   that the trust is written in a way that makes that happen   when you're not here with this in group.  

So, anyway, it's it's really good stuff, and I I enjoyed teaching. Learned a lot through this first group. And what I love is we got such smart people that   they they ask questions that, you know, a lot of times you kinda forget what you know until somebody asks you a question.   And so   I kinda felt like that about the IRS sometimes though. All of a sudden, somebody else asked me a question that triggers   a a memory and just comes pouring out of me. It's like, wow. I forgot I even knew that.   But, anyway,   June 3, you got time   to,   register and get on board, and and we'll help you with your trust. So,   anyway, thank you, Roger.  



[00:30:35] Unknown:

Yeah. And even being see, yes, you may. Just a second, Julie.   Even being a national doesn't protect you from some of these things, like if you're out there in an auto accident.   And and here's pretty much the,   pretty much the protocol as you go and wanna find one of these guys you saw on TV, you know, whoever you hit accidentally here.  

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And they  

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and they see the you know,   slice them, stab them, and slab them up there advertising   for personal injury.   And, so they call them and they come back and they go and go, alright. Well, what's the guy's social security number?   And so you give them the social security number and they do a database search.   And if, that you've got wealth there, then they'll take the case because they work almost exclusively   on contingencies,   which means that they they will sign a contract with you. And if they settle out of court,   I think the attorney gets, like, 30% or 20%.  

And if you have to go to court, the attorney gets 50% or whatever. But if there's nothing on your Social Security number that you have as property,   they don't see any way that they can get paid for their efforts. They're probably not gonna take the case or pursue you, and probably none of the other ones are either. Okay? Right. Yeah. Julie?  

[00:31:57] Unknown:

Yeah. I know. I've said this a million times to everybody, but, I can't highly recommend, and I'm not getting paid for this. I get nothing for this. I don't want anything.   Mark's value that he gives you is way above what and you're gonna get from any other attorney. He he knows more than other attorneys do. Just for being the paralegals do all the work for the attorneys. I'm calling.   So and I and so for you know, you don't have to be rich. I've said this before to have one. You just need to protect what you have so that it can't get taken away from you. And there's nobody,   like Mark, is going to go over with this in the finite minute details until you understand it backwards and forwards. And here, I'm probably putting Mark on the spot here. I have no clue what the question or what the answer to this question would be. But for all of you out there who might be struggling financially   and you really wanna take this class, have a private conversation with Mark, and maybe there's something he can do in terms of payments. Sorry, Mark, if I put you on the spot, but I just thought about this.  



[00:32:53] Unknown:

Well, it's it's really important.   You know, this is something ever since I've been in the patriot movement thirty something years.   Back in those early days, there are people crisscrossing the country selling trust.   I don't remember how much they charged, Mark. It was more than I could afford. I can tell you that at the time. And,   but they they just sell them and they give you,   they're not attorneys. They probably don't know anywhere near as much as Mark knows   and, understands.   And, they people bought them. You know? I don't know of any tragic situations that came out of them, but I just know there's a lot of charlatans   around, and there still are,   trying to make a living off of this. I also wanted to tell you on Julie's comment.  

When I was in paralegal school, we had 10 different modules,   real estate law, legal research, contracts. I don't remember all of them, but they were all taught by local attorneys   there in Atlanta. And one of the attorneys got up in front of the class and said, when you graduate,   you'll know more about the law than the lawyer you work   for. Told us that right in class. Okay?   So,   I can't imagine that, but I'm sure that's probably true. Okay. So, anyway, it's,   by service that we,   allow Mark to provide if you guys wanna take advantage of it because we know it's solid, and we know it's good. And, it it can help maybe protect some of you in some wonderful way. So, anyway, you can inquire into it, mark@mark,allcaps,   or straw man. What what what what's the what address would base at your legacy trust dot com. There you go. Thank you, Paul. Dot o r g. Dot o r g. Yeah.  



[00:34:40] Unknown:

Yeah. You can email me at at strawman@mark,allcaps,.com   or you can email me at [email protected].   Real quick Yeah. Before we go on to whoever's holding there for us,   I forgot to mention, you don't have to be a national to take advantage of the class.   However,   for those people that do come on board and they're nationals,   we   I go at both both ways.   If you're a national, it simplifies   things so much.   There's a company called Private Wealth Academy   and   they do these bulletproof trusts and I bought their material   and   it was expensive.  

I'm not joking but their bulletproof trust   required   tiers   layers, I should say,   layers   of trust on top of trust   to avoid taxation.   And   with the national status, it's really about you   want the income to come straight to you so you're not taxed.   So   just letting you know that if you're not a national, you can still take advantage of the class I teach, you know,   both formats, whether you are or are not a national.   It's not a big deal. It's a yield.  

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Okay. Thank you, sir. We're always glad to have you along and that kind of thing offered to the audience. Yes, Paul.  

[00:36:11] Unknown:

I I wanna make, like, a, like, a little minor   correction and enhancement.   We don't allow   Mark   to provide the service.   We allow   Mark to promote the service on the radio program because the service has value.   And whether you have a trust or not, you should know enough about them to know it's an option   if a situation ever comes up.  

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Alrighty.   Well, we're glad to be able to, you know, let people know about this and avail themselves of what we know is a good solid offering. Right. And and it's a lifetime membership too, you know.  

[00:36:53] Unknown:

So once you get paid, you have access to the information. You can come on anytime you want. It could be   six months, a year, two years later.   You can still come on and and, you know, ask questions, and,   I'll do my best to help you out for sure. Yeah.  

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So, I feel comfortable in,   letting that out on the air.   So,   can we we got anybody who wants to ask any questions, or can I go back to bashing   my favorite bunch? I like to bash her. Yes, George. Hey, George.  

[00:37:27] Unknown:

Yeah. Howdy. Yeah.   Couple of questions.   One,   and you you could   on the second question, you could say you gotta take the course. But the first question is, on a business,   will you be I I think you mentioned you might be incorporating some things about business   in the next  

[00:37:51] Unknown:

iteration of your course. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it'll be this particular course,   but what I'm going to do is offer, like, an upgrade   for business owners who want to   learn how they can basically   set all their personal property over into a trust   and protect that   and then take their business   property   and put it over into a holding   company   and that they're just leasing that that property. So   if you've been in business any length of time,   you know that you're just a walking target for lawsuits.   People think you've got money,   you're out there in the public.  

It's not just you having a car out in the public.   You know, you got a business that's out in the public. You run the risk of getting sued. And I like to tell people,   you anybody can sue you for anything at any time,   but they got to make it stick.   Well if they can make that lawsuit stick and you got to go through the trouble of the lawsuit,   what a big difference and peace of mind knowing   all my property is covered.   All my property, business and personal   are protected   and they can't rob it from getting a lawsuit against me. To get a judgment against me, I'm collection proof. Now you're not lawsuit proof.   Some people like to say that, you know, I'm I'm lawsuit proof. No. You're not. But   if they do get a judgment, a court judgment against you,   you're uncollectible.  

And now you're back in the driver's seat   and you can work out any kind of deal you want. If you can't work out a favorable settlement agreement,   then,   you know, worst case scenario, you can file bankruptcy and in two years your life's back online.  

[00:39:49] Unknown:

So or quicker. So Great. Thank you. You're welcome, George. The the second one is kind of related to that. Let's say that you have an existing trust   and your house is in that trust.   Right. However,   the   mortgage note is coming to one of the trustees, not to both.   Can the other trustee,   and so it's coming to the address of the of the trust and all that. Can the other trustee   pay off   a bill   and it would, you know, carry through to the trust   ownership or whatever?   Or does does it have to does the mortgage have to be paid   in the individual's name who's the Ziff?  



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I don't know if that's clear. Yeah. That I understand where you're coming from on that.   The property,   the ownership of it, the interest in the property   belongs to the trust.   But the loan belongs to whoever took the loan out.   So they're the ones ultimately responsible for continue paying,   excuse me, continue to pay the mortgage.   Now, anybody can pay on that mortgage   and even pay it off.   But if the   the ownership will still be in the name of the trust   unless you amend things.  

[00:41:12] Unknown:

Does that make sense? I can't imagine I can't imagine these scoundrels turning down payment from any quarter if you're somebody's gonna Yeah.  

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Yeah. Well, you know what's what's interesting about that too is I just learned that,   and I haven't I think I've found it in the Idaho law, though. When I tried to print the law, it came out blank. So   But,   in Florida,   they there is a statute that says   that the the mortgage   or has no interest in the actual property, which I thought was interesting.   So they, by law, they cannot,   I guess, have   and and they just have an interest in the loan, you know Right. And individual who's guaranteeing basically, it's an insurance payment. Right? Because then if you go to Bermuda, you'll see all those,   all those hypothecated,   derivative people that bundled all these mortgages.  

It's they're all on an island somewhere for for their own protection, I guess. But, Yeah. But I digress.   So Maybe I thought that was interesting that there's no way that sheriff can actually,   you know, possession   basically, possession and the mortgage are two separate things.   Are you  

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Well, yeah. When you talk about dealing with a trust   and and or just a mortgage. Let's just talk about a mortgage without the trust. So somebody goes and gets a mortgage, and now they're living on the property,   and they're making mortgage payments.   Well, they're building up equity in that property   and they own 100%   interest in that property.   However,   the mortgage company   also   has a lien on the property.   And if you fail to pay,   then that that part of their self help remedy is   either a nonjudicial   foreclosure, if you're in one of those states like California and Texas,   or judicial foreclosure where they gotta take you to court   and you have your day in court if you want to.  

And Oklahoma and Florida and several other states are like that as well.   So it's that varies a little bit, but   that does not mean   the mortgage company   owns interest in your property. They don't.   They have a lien against your property to secure the loan that you receive Right. To buy the property.  

[00:43:36] Unknown:

George, you know how mortgages work?  

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And then if you is there a way I was reading   recently that there was effectively   a way if you are in a non judicial state to to turn it into a judicial matter.   Forget how they were doing it because Yeah. But the homeowner has to easy way.  

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The homeowner has to convert it. They're the ones that have to go file the the petition in the court.  

[00:44:01] Unknown:

I see. Okay.  

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Interesting. Yeah. Georgia? Yeah. The Sounds like you have a chance. Yeah. The plaintiff just wants to, you know, have   a supposed   auction on the it's not in the steps of the courthouse anymore in some states.   It's outside the legal newspaper.   Whatever address they put on the on the public notice.   And what's crazy, at least I've done this in Vegas, I'd show up for the   for the auction,   and there was nobody there.   Not even not nobody. So   somehow,   somebody is making some   inside deals   to buy that property. So it's kind of strange.  

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I remember in Vegas in the o eight days, o nine days,   somebody said they were having foreclosure sales twenty four hours a day.  

[00:44:53] Unknown:

Oh, I I wouldn't doubt it. It was just crazy.   Crazy. I had,   before   let's see.   Let me think now.   2031,   '20 '12, I worked with a gentleman that,   had a private membership   association,   and they taught people how to fight foreclosures.   And,   they had a couple of successes,   but other than that, it was really a a total uphill fight, especially in the court system.   And I have one   former client who's now a pretty good friend   that,   was a landlord, and he had multiple properties, like a dozen or so. Some were   they were in the New York City area, so you imagine the value of those those homes.   And he had fought off   He kept them at bay for years while he was collecting rent without making mortgage payments.  

And he was   still pretty successful in in fighting them off.   So and I had another student in Vegas   who fought them off for two years,   and that was   the amount   if you look at how much money they were paying monthly on their on their loan,   they had refinanced their home to keep their business afloat during that 02/2009   debacle.   The mortgage   burst bubble   burst.   And so they refinanced their home to keep their business going,   and it survived and started doing well again.   And,   but they were under foreclosure. Good side?  

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Is this your Goodsegg? Yes. Hey. You're you're unmuted. Did it work? Oh, somebody's unmuted here having a side conversation. Can we get that corrected, please?  

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There we go. Thank you.   So they were able   to keep them,   you know, with my help. We kept kept them   held at bay for almost two years,   and they realized that,   I said, Now take a look at this because they're just so invested in living in their home   as   a married couple.   And I said,   If you take the the monthly payments you would have made,   they were equal to the amount that they refinance   the home for.   And the light bulb went on and they realized, oh, this is a business decision.   I got   my pound of flesh   out of the mortgage company   and saved my business, and I can fight another day.  

And when they made that switch, Roger,   you could tell the weight of the world was taken off of them. And they told me was lifted.   Yeah. The they told me that   it was like having two jobs.   They'd work all day, and, you know, as a business owner, that can be ten to twelve hours a day. They get home, and then they had to start researching and studying their case   and fighting that on the side.   Yeah. So when the day come,   we kept the actual eviction off for almost six months.   And I had them they're one of the few students that followed everything I told them to the t.   I said, look. You know, you're probably not gonna, you know, be able to keep your house,   but,   you know, you can start putting everything over into storage,   get down to the bare minimum in your home so that you're not sitting there flat   when they knock on the door and tell you gotta get out. You're like, well, what am I gonna do with all my stuff?  

Right? A lot of people do that. They stick their head in the sand,   and they think that day is never coming   until it does.   But they did everything so great, Roger. They're, like, one of my best students ever in the foreclosure   game,   and they had everything transferred into or moved into a storage unit.   And the day finally,   we fought that eviction off for almost I don't know.   It was I think it was almost six months. When they finally got that worked out and and that had to do with jurisdiction,   by the way.   That they were they were foreclosing or, excuse me, doing the eviction in the wrong   wrong municipality.  

Once they finally figured it out and got it straightened out   and the   the police showed up on the door to have them, you know, leave.   They walked out the door with their little suitcases, and they handed the keys and told them to have a nice day.   And   then a couple of days went by, and they called me and they said,   and, of course, in Vegas, you got all the condos and everything. People have timeshares and so forth. Well, they had a friend that owned a condo,   and   they did a lot of traveling. They said, oh, you stay there as long as you want. So they moved into the condo.   And, I don't know, three or four days went by, and they called me up and said, you know what? It's like the weight of the world was taken off our shoulders.  

Yeah. Thank you so much.   It it happened just like you said it would.   And and we're   we're looking at the next part of our life in, you know,   buying another home in the future. But they saved their business,   survive to fight another day,   and they're doing well.  

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Hey, George. Do you know about the,   background of mortgages?   George, did you go away? Was that you on that conversation? Okay. He's probably me. It's always interesting. The whole thing's a damn scam just like everything else. Just like this citizenship   stuff.   Do do you know the background of mortgages?  

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A little bit about. Mortmain, you mean?  

[00:50:49] Unknown:

Well, Mortmain is the the derivative of the word where mortgage comes from. It means to kill.   And,   they don't ever loan you anything.   They just string you out, you know, and,   you you go in, you sign up. Well, if you go in to close a house, those of you who've ever closed a home know what I'm talking about, and you go in the little room   And there's a stack of papers, what, two, three inches deep in front of you?  

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Do you have you ever closed a loan, a mortgage,  

[00:51:19] Unknown:

Mark?   Yes, ma'am. Go in. Well, there's stacks of these papers in front of you. You you're supposed you wish   you wish you'd have gotten a stamp made with your signature when you after you finish.   And so, generally, the first one or the very first one you sign is the promissory   note.   Of course, a promise to pay.   So that is the money   that's exchanged.   And, you go through and sign all the rest of the stuff and here they get you for, let's just say, the average thirty years.   And,   then the the   the   interest is all paid in the first   twenty years,   especially the first fifteen.  

So,   that that's all pre that's all, interest. No premium. You're only paying a little bit off whatever the amount of the sales price of the house was   and because they know that the average couple   only owns a home for seven years.   So the whole first seven years, you do nothing but give them vigorish.   On on money, they never loaned you because you created it when you signed the promissory note. It it these people are nothing but scammers.   The whole system is this kind of stuff.   So, anyway, just curious out.  

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And, they actually there's somebody said,   they didn't get the key. They got the keys, and they said that, you know, kinda like the lady in Florida said. And then,   this other   person said, I wanna know where, you know, where the wire came from. And the wire came from the Fed. So the bank didn't loan you jack squat. The money came right from the Fed, which is the Treasury.  

[00:53:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Federal Reserve, actually.  

[00:53:04] Unknown:

Pfizer. Yeah. I I yes. Yes, Julie. Hold on. Let me tell this little story about one of your neighbors there in Maryland.   Was a listener around here for a while. He's a black guy.   We got into a,   a nest of,   black guys that were fighting IRS up in Winston Salem,   and the information went around there like crap through a goose.   And one of the offshoots of that was this guy, Eric Cade was his name.   Really sharp black guy. Had his own radio show on mortgages. He was a mortgage broker.   And he came on and,   he said, you know, when I got turned on to this, I was in, talking to a friend of mine in a closing attorney's office   there at the end of the day. And she was taking a stack of the mortgages, the promissory notes there that they had,   gone through that day. And she was turning them over and stamping them. Boom. Boom. Boom.  

While she was talking to me. And so I asked her. I said, let me see one of those. And the stamp was for deposit in any Federal Reserve Bank. So there you go.   That's how you got turned on to this whole thing. Yes, Julie. Dear, sweetie.  

[00:54:16] Unknown:

Yeah. I just wanted to add something. A lot of times when people will go to settlement, you'll see a check,   from your bank. It might say Bank of America, Wells Fargo, HSBC on it. But what most people don't know is that's called check kiting. They write a check and they don't have any funds behind that, so there's no consideration that was ever transferred which makes the mortgage   fraud, which makes it null and void. So again they're monetizing   your promissory note creating the money out of thin air which Mark and I have had many conversations on and Mark thinks that that possibly is legal to do, but what's not legal to do is to show up to a contractual   situation with no consideration. So in essence that's what they're doing because they're monetizing   the promissory note after the transaction is over when they're supposed to bring money to the table before the signing of the papers takes place. Then if they do, they're lying because that check, it's like you writing a bad check to your friend and having no money in the bank account. That's exactly what all the banks are doing.  



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Yeah. And what they're really doing is they're monetizing   the price of your collateral.   Because right there, they've got the price, and then they've got the interest you're gonna pay out over how many months.   But what they're actually doing is monetizing. That's what their term   of taking   pieces of green paper with dead presidents on them in a warehouse.   And when you   sign this paper,   magically, that amount, the amount of your collateral   is loaned into existence, and there's the rub. It's not the interest   that you're gonna eventually pay out. That's not loaned into it. It's just the price of your collateral, and that's why it's the musical chairs game. Yes, Paul?  

[00:56:03] Unknown:

If they if they show up to the closing table with a check,   I mean, that check is a negotiable instrument,   and they back that check,   but   they cover that negotiable instrument within twenty four hours   by discounting the promissory note at the Federal Reserve.   So they get their money back. They do loan you money for about twenty four hours,   and you pay for it for thirty years.  

[00:56:38] Unknown:

It's a complex situation. That's why they've been able to pull this off. I mean, how many people in the country know what we're talking about right here? By handful.   A handful.   Yes, Judy. Roger?  

[00:56:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Paul, I would disagree with you on that because when you show up to the bank, you can't bring you have to bring,   a certified   check. You can't just bring a check to settlement. It has to be actual you have to bring cash or you have to bring a certified check and the and the bank is not doing that. They're bringing a negotiable instrument to the table, but it doesn't have any money behind it. And it's supposed to have money behind it at that exact time you sign. When when you sign the contract to buy the house, don't you give the agent earnest money? Isn't that the earnest money that's used in the procedure?   Jewelry, you're the real estate director. The earnest money that you put down goes towards your,   mortgage. Right, it goes towards your it goes towards your, down payment. So that's not part of the loan. That's, you know, that's usually what the down payment is you're making that you're coming out and the rest remaining is the loan that they   they generate for you. Gotcha.  



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It's a it's a complex process. You know where this all started, Julie, don't you?   Back in Florence when they came up with double entry bookkeeping.   Before the fifteen hundreds, there was only single entry,   entry,   if you've not been exposed to this information,   they take the promissory note that you signed, debt, a promise to pay,   and they go put it on the liability   side of the ledger.   On double entry bookkeeping, you've got liabilities and you've got assets, and supposedly, they balance out. Well, they bring the promise to pay of whatever that amount is, and they put it on the liability   side of the ledger.  

So   how can that be something positive, a promise to pay for how many years so much funds,   and they put it on a liability ledger?   Well, there's the fraud right there. Okay? Because now that it's on the books,   they will take the promissory note just like I said with Eric Kate a minute ago and discount it into the secondary market or give it to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve then gives them cash,   discounted amount of cash.   They take   some of the profits at the back end of the payout of the loan,   but they whatever amount they settle on in cash, they give you that cash and you put it on the asset side of the ledger   that balances the books to some extent, and that's what they pay the home builder with.  

K? So it's all a scam. It's just another more Jew crap,   and, it's gotta be exposed and   put put put it into it. So, Paul, you wanna tell our   good folks all over the planet goodbye here?  

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Well, we're certainly saying goodbye to Chicago.  

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They only join us for the first hour. Oh, that's right. We're on the soapbox for two hours. I forgot. Yes. 106.9  

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W B 0 U F M Chicago.   Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com.   That's the matrix,d0cs,.com.   You can join us using free conference call. Join us live on the show, or   you can click on the Eurofolk radio or Global Voice Radio.  

[01:00:09] Unknown:

Thanks. Thank you. Yep. And while we're on the topic, if there's folks out there that don't know much about this, if this is kinda new to you,   there's a couple of excellent, excellent YouTube Jutube videos.   One of them is done in Canada   years ago. It's animated. It's nonpolitical.   It's called Money as Debt.   Julie, have you ever seen that? Money as Debt.  

[01:00:36] Unknown:

It's quite good. Yeah. I have. It's excellent. It's excellent.  

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And and then the other I would recommend is The Secrets of Oz   with our buddy Bill Still,   a literal   award winning   documentary that was named the documentary of the year in 2011.   High Hollywood   quality production   even went all the way to England, and they,   they handled tally sticks.   They they they went to the Museum of Natural History or whatever. They've got tally sticks there,   and they actually allowed Bill to they they took the tally sticks out of the, glass   display case and let them handle them and explain them. And that's what used to be used in England was tally sticks. They take a stick and they break it where it uniquely   could be fit back together, and they'd loan half of the stick into circulation,   and they keep the other half at home. And when the   circulating piece came back and they match, they take that out of circulation. It's called tally sticks. So you don't need gold. You don't need silver. They actually used to use wood.  

But that's about two hours long,   and you'll see even if you're familiar with the monetary system, you'll see things in there you probably did not know. K? What's the secret of Oz? The secret of Oz   by Bill Still. Have you never seen that, Paul?   No. You you you really should avail yourself of it. It is excellent.  

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Absolutely. I have. I've got the DVD version of it.   And what was cool about that tally stick was,   I think it was   Rothschild   that basically had cornered the banking   system in in England   After Napoleon. Yes. For the government and the people to break the bank,   they created their own currency out of primarily hickory sticks.   And they they they had, like you said, matching. What they did is they split it down the middle,   but the but the master part had a little bit   longer piece that wasn't sawn in half   and the smaller piece   that was cut out of that stick,   they would put notches across those and that gave   your value   or the amount that it was worth,   and they used that in place of   currency.  

It was the currency.   And so they stopped using the bank's money,   and they went under.   They broke the Bank of England that that way.   Fascinating.   I just I highly   if if you don't if you really wanna wrap your head around what money and currency is because there's a big difference,   I highly recommend getting that. And, Bill Still is   back on YouTube now. He, got   taken down from YouTube, and now all of a sudden, magically, his channel came back to life. Yep. Yeah. They're letting people back to life. He does the still report, him and his wife, and Mhmm.   And, I used to follow them diligently and kinda got away from it, but Uh-huh. Very good insight information.  



[01:03:52] Unknown:

They left the Chihuahua back on YouTube too. You know who the Chihuahua is, don't you, Mark? You you refer to Greg Hunter.   Greg Hunter. Chihuahua, don't you? Well, that's Daryl gave him that name, and I think it's pretty bad. I can't help but laugh.   He's always like  

[01:04:09] Unknown:

very interesting background.   You know, he worked with, I believe, CNN in the early days when it was really more   fact driven.   And he tells you what goes into   them releasing stories. He also worked for ABC,   there for a while. He just,   you know, he goes, you just don't   he   just   tears into report, well, not reporters, what do you call them,   like Rachel Madcow   and some of these others that are just talking about, basically. Oh, yes hoes.  

[01:04:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Is that a man or a woman?  

[01:04:46] Unknown:

It's a female.   Anyway, a lesbian female, openly gay,   but she,   well, back to the right hander.  

[01:04:58] Unknown:

Are you telling us she's a vag   Are you telling us she's a vegetarian? I'm sorry for interrupting. I had to get that long in there.  

[01:05:06] Unknown:

Yeah. So,   anyway, Greg was saying,   if you have a show produced like that, you don't just run down the hallway saying, hey, boss. Be sure to watch tonight because it's gonna be a barn burn.   He goes, oh, no. He goes,   it's tightly controlled.  

[01:05:25] Unknown:

You're scripted.  

[01:05:26] Unknown:

And everything that you're gonna say on air for the most part has been reviewed   several times   Yeah. Between a producer and a director and the attorneys.   And there were signs that Greg couldn't release a story   through CNN or ABC because   their attorneys are like, no. You you can't say that. You know? They could get us sued. That type of thing.   So he goes, this is very tightly controlled   on on what they're telling you.   And, of course, we know it's it's a huge amount of propaganda now that's really, really reflecting now   that, all the money from CIA and the FBI   that are going to these   television stations   to carry their propaganda and say what they want them to say to the public.  



[01:06:15] Unknown:

Yep. And they're suing them. Do you know that? Nash, NPR suing Trump,   overcutting the funding.  

[01:06:23] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, that's all they know to do.   He's got the and he's if he has the administrative power to to cut all that out,   then, you know, they're a crime big time, especially the   USA   International Development,   commonly referred to as USAID, there's no aid in it. Yeah.   Excuse me, there's no aid in it.  

[01:06:46] Unknown:

USAID International Development ID. Well, here's the rub. They're not codifying any of that stuff in the big beautiful bill that's been passed by the house and going to the senate.   All they've got to to codify all the doge cuts and all that. It's gotta be in legislation,   and they're keeping it out of the legislation,   which means that it would expire after Trump's not president.  

[01:07:09] Unknown:

Yeah. But that's that's the presidency   next. We'll Right. Counter it.  

[01:07:15] Unknown:

And and what they did was they took away the leadership of USAID,   and they gave that all to,   Mario, Rubio.   So he's the secretary of state and overseeing USAID   right now. So they may still be funding it, but they might not be releasing it. I those are the behind the scenes things we just don't know yet. But   they're they're trying to block Trump's,   initiative at every point they can,   of course.   Tom, you had a guy watch your   Yes. Hello. I think that's Larry there. Go ahead, Larry.   No. This is, Harvey. I put in meat to both I was secret of Oz and Oh, well. The Money is Debt.   Urbie, is that you? Chat.  

Yes. I put links to the Secret of Oz and Money is Debt in the chat through YouTube videos.   I like Money is Debt because if I get in that conversation with anyone down here,   they've got a Spanish version of it too.  

[01:08:20] Unknown:

Roger, it was Larry.  

[01:08:22] Unknown:

Okay. Hi, Larry.  

[01:08:26] Unknown:

Hey. You looking for me, Roger?  

[01:08:29] Unknown:

No. Well, I was, Tom, but I'll get to you in a minute. Go ahead, Larry.  

[01:08:34] Unknown:

Yeah. A couple of things.   I I was wondering if Paul   explained   what the discounting of a note is all about at the Federal Reserve.   Maybe Julie knows.  

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And, Oh, I know. Also,  

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I don't know if you know this, but   in the news, I think it was yesterday   or maybe the day before,   but DeSantis just signed a bill that makes gold and silver legal tender in Florida.  

[01:09:01] Unknown:

Oh, cool. It had to be yesterday because Monday was Memorial Day.   So I doubt if he was signing bills on Memorial Day, but he may have been.   Did not know that. Good for you. Good on you,   Desantis.   Thank you, Larry. Anything else?  

[01:09:22] Unknown:

I guess not. I feel like explain,  

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the discounting of notes or Julie. Okay.  

[01:09:28] Unknown:

Alright. Well, go ahead, miss Julie. You're the one with all those letters behind your name.  

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I don't know how to explain it, but I mean, they're basically when you monetize something, you create money out of it.   I guess if you go to HR,   HJR 192   and public law, my understanding is those were rescinded, but they define   legal tender as promissory notes or bills of exchange.   And what they're doing basically is they're turning that document that you signed, the promise to pay, into money.   So they're selling it, they're discounting it, they're depositing it at a Federal Reserve Bank, and then they're selling it off. You know, they a lot of times what the banks will do is they will pull these mortgages together and create mortgage   bond obligations or   they'll pull them MBOs together and create collateralized   bond obligations.  

And they sell those out as securities   to hedge funds and pension funds and   all sorts   of people and they'll get rating agencies like Moody's and Standard and Poor's and Fitch's to stamp on that AAA when they're junk.   That's what took down the mortgage   crisis in 02/2007,   '2 thousand and '8.  

[01:10:48] Unknown:

They,   basically Watch the big short.  

[01:10:52] Unknown:

Yep. And what they did was, they changed one parameter in their algorithm. And the one parameter that they changed was that housing prices would go up forever and they would never come down. And that and then they did, you know, stated income or no doc loans where you didn't have to have any documentation   to get a loan. They wouldn't even verify employment.   They would just, if you had a good credit score, you could just walk in and tell them, hey, I make $400,000   a year and you could buy whatever you wanted to buy. They did very few ratios analysis. I think that was done on purpose. Do you remember what those were called, Julie?  

[01:11:25] Unknown:

Remember what those were called inside the industry?   Yeah. They're called with liar loans.   Liar's loans. Go on. Yeah.  

[01:11:33] Unknown:

Yeah. So basically, I mean, it's they're it's just it's they're when you monetize something, like I said, you're creating money out of some sort of paper document.   And that's not the way that a contract is supposed to operate. In order to have a valid contract, you have to have three many things, but the three main components are offer, acceptance and consideration,   an offer by the bank to give you a loan, acceptance by you and then transfer of money   from both parties in order which is called consideration   in order to make that contract a valid contract. Well, when you're engaging in check kiting, where you're writing checks   that with no money behind it or you're using somebody's promissory note and then selling it out in the market as a security to generate the cash, that's not consideration. That's after the fact. That makes all the mortgages   fraudulent.  



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Yep. I don't know if I can I don't know if I can  

[01:12:29] Unknown:

Well, I'm going to take a step back and worry? It's the way Roger said. Roger said it's basically   they're just engaging in double entry bookkeeping on the books   and putting stuff down that's basically not true because they never transferred   attached to you in the first place. They trans they they got the cash you created the cash, but then they create they monetized it after the fact, after the documents were all signed.  

[01:12:55] Unknown:

Mhmm. That's a very important word to understand monetizing, and that's their word. A a dollar, a currency is not monetized   until someone takes out a loan.   Otherwise, it's sitting in a warehouse somewhere, and it's a green piece of paper with a dead president on it. Okay?   So when they come back and discount this by the way, TJ,   one of my favorite forefathers,   Thomas Jefferson, he understood this. I saw one of his quotes. One time, it said no   discounting   of notes.   So he understood this principle or else he wouldn't have said that. K?   So what they do is they take you sign the note. You're promised to pay this much principal, this much interest over this many months, and that comes to a total.  

Okay? If you string it out, extrapolate it. So let's say the total is a hundred thousand dollars.   So the total of the note in payout, if you held it to maturity, is a hundred thousand dollars. When you're discounting it, you're gonna sell it to the settled reserve or an investor in the background,   but you're only gonna charge them $70,000.   And so they get the if they buy that note at the discount,   then they hold it to maturity.   They realize that extra 30%   profit   for taking in an advance.   And whoever   generated the note gets the funds back of 70,000   where they can still make a little bit of money on it, but they take the 50,000   for your house, and they go give that to the guy that built the house as the payoff.  

So they get 20, and whoever the investor is in the secondary market gets 30.   So that's a very simple way to explain it. Okay? Does that make sense, Julie? Does that make sense for you?  

[01:14:46] Unknown:

Yeah. That's a simplified version. It gets more complicated when they pull the word   together. We don't no. We don't want we don't wanna complicate it. Yeah. We'd be we wanna keep it as simple as possible for this audience. Okay? Yep. Okay. So That makes makes perfect sense more or less. And then you can you can go get the book, The Secret Bankers Manual. It's on Paul's website under resources   by Tom Schaff. And, it's 264   pages and he spells he spills the beans in that.  

[01:15:15] Unknown:

Yeah.   And and that brings up another question or two I've got, but we've got Samuel and Paul that wanna say something first, so I will defer to them. Paul, you were first.  

[01:15:26] Unknown:

The Fourth Turning, is that a book by Neil Howe?  

[01:15:30] Unknown:

It was him and his wife, Joe Guy and his wife.   I don't remember. They're Tofflers, I think.   Okay. Go look under the Tofflers.   Okay, Samuel?  

[01:15:45] Unknown:

Yeah. A lot of people don't realize that Bill still, a younger Bill still in 1966,   did a documentary   called The Money Masters.   It's about twice as long as You didn't.  

[01:15:57] Unknown:

'66?  

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Yeah.  

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It Really? It's about twice as long, but it covers he doesn't use the allegory of the odds and all that. He but he does he does go more into biblical principles,   at the beginning of that one if you're interested in that side of the monetary system.  

[01:16:18] Unknown:

Well, he also and the only place you can find that was on video, and it had been copied and copied and copied, and the quality was very poor on the one that I saw initially.   But the newer one is,   was Hollywood production stuff. Like I said, it won the documentary of the year at one of these film festivals in 2011.   Well worth watching if you've never seen either one of those.   If you go to money as debt, what interests me at the first of it,   he shows pieces of paper floating around. You know? There's all kinds of these pieces of paper floating around. Those are the promissory notes, but he never identifies this mechanism on how they do it. He gives you the whole thing on the goldsmiths   and all the background of this, and it's good, but they never totally,   connect   the promissory note to the lending of the currency.  

And that's super important to understand.   It's just another scam. It's another Jew scam.   They they don't put up anything,   but they get to get you entrapped in this mortgage to kill. That's what it translates   for is to kill.   And and there never were thirty year mortgages in our country until 1933.   In the old it's a wonderful life with Jimmy Stewart, the banking thing, those were all ten year mortgages.   Down here, they won't loan you anything but a ten year mortgage   and,   still.   And, so, anyway, that's a little background on money. It's very   well, it's critical to understand if you wanna get a understanding of the big picture.  

And And then we take it a step further. What we teach here is, oh, you mean I'm the collateral for that?   Well, I don't wanna be the collateral for that anymore. Well, sweetie, cupcake, you don't have to be. We can show you easily, easily how to get out of this,   and there's no blowback.   At least there hasn't been in fourteen years, so I'm assuming there's no more coming. And the more people we get putting this paperwork in, the more they understand that they're really on a razor's edge   because they got no defense for this.   None.  

None.   And if you really think about it, when you send in that affidavit and it's unopposed and they stand mute,   don't they really, Mark, don't they really convict themselves   because silence deems consent?   So they're   by having to stay silent,   they literally convict themselves outside of a court of law of all this damage and mischievousness,   illegalities,   and lawlessness?  

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Yeah. Don't they? Yeah.  

[01:19:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I would say so. Well, yeah. Well well, who what else who else in history has ever had these bastards like this? Nobody.   At least that I've been able to find.   But we got them like that. That's why you'll never hear my name mentioned.   You'll never hear this program referenced   because they're scared to death of this, folks. I know some of you are scared to death of them, and you don't believe that, and you find it very difficult to believe, but I promise you it's true.   K?   They're scared to death of this. It strips them of every power that we've given them and they've tricked us out of. Esau Edom no longer has true stolen his birthright. Now we've got it back because we're the power.   We just gotta grow.  

So the more folks we grow, the more harder all of you work out there spreading this message and find newer people, the stronger we all are. Every time somebody puts an affidavit in, we're stronger.   And we love you. Roger.   Oh, yeah. Okay. There's two people there.   Yes. Go ahead. Roger, did I say 96?   Yes. You did. And I think that's wrong.  

[01:20:18] Unknown:

It's '96.  

[01:20:20] Unknown:

Thank you.   Heath wasn't born. I don't think. That's when I that's when I first saw it near the in the   nineties. It still was terrible.   Copy of a copy of a copy on VHS. Now who was the other guy there?  

[01:20:38] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. This is,   Michael up in, outside Providence, Rhode Island.  

[01:20:44] Unknown:

Hey, Michael. Hey, buddy. How are you doing?  

[01:20:47] Unknown:

Doing well.   Good to be back on with you. I've been, busy since   I was first on with you back on April 14. I,   filed my affidavit   and, just recently joined up with Mark's class. I'm running into that. Oh, good. Uh-huh. Good. I'm just decision. Joined   yeah.   It's the the endorsements. Plus, you you can just   hear the description,   you know, and and it's it sounds like, you know, fantastic   opportunity.   Quick personal note.   I,   if you recall, I was   living down in East Cobb County for quite a while,   and, and I'm sure I passed across in,   in another place possibly because I also went to Art Institute   of Atlanta. Oh, did you? Did you? Yeah. I I was, studying audio engineering there. I started there, and I ended up transferring down to Art Institute in Fort Lauderdale   and finished up down there.  



[01:21:48] Unknown:

Well, we probably passed each other in the stairways or something at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty pretty crazy.   And and I just I was there. I was teaching   I was teaching from '85 to '95, those ten years.  

[01:22:02] Unknown:

Okay. So I would have been there. So I was there at, like, '92   Well, I up to '94.   Yeah. What a trip. I I was,   audio engineering, so   you you were doing something different, I think.  

[01:22:15] Unknown:

I was in the I was teaching rate broadcasting   and record promotion mostly, those two subjects.  

[01:22:23] Unknown:

I'm surprised I didn't take a class with you because I was I've been right up my alley being a musician. I'd love to have had you in there. That was that that is so fun. Teaching is  

[01:22:32] Unknown:

just it's just one of the most rewarding things I've ever found to do. You know? It doesn't even necessarily it's not money,   matched up. It's just the reward you get from helping other people understand   life better in the world and improve their lives. It's just a wonderful feedback mechanism.  

[01:22:51] Unknown:

It gives me great value. We all take our turn doing that. Right?  

[01:22:55] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. Well, I can tell you this. Even if you don't think you've ever done it, I would have never thought I would have been a teacher. It was just happenstance.   And,   but it gives your life great purpose.   I mean, really, really, if you've never lived a life of purpose   and you've always just been chasing Federal Reserve notes,   man, teaching people this stuff especially really,   really gives your life purpose because you're you're improving the world because you're changing people's lives by showing them the truth. And it's just very rewarding. So good, Michael.  

[01:23:31] Unknown:

Yeah. For sure.   Yeah. One other quick fix I know. You're not you weren't kidding about the sales,   presence up here in in, in Rhode Island. There's a sales Oh, yeah? Village   Sales Village, which is a historic village, part of Lincoln, Rhode Island, and there's Sales Hall at, Brown University.  

[01:23:50] Unknown:

Yes. I knew that. It's named after sales.   Right. So, yeah, we've got quite a presence over there, and I I guess my grandfather's brothers and all their genealogy was correct. You confirmed that. And because that's where I got that on a write up of it, and they were supposedly on the Mayflower and,   heavily involved in the bleach industry up there for,   I guess, the early days.  

[01:24:15] Unknown:

And, textiles   too, I I read. Yeah. Okay. Probably. Yeah.   Yeah.   But, anyway, so I've what a a comment and a and a question that   I plan to dig into this further with Mark as well,   regarding, and, you know, I think you guys started off with IRS today.   With respect to capital gains,   so   is is   is that something that that   kinda goes away as a national too? Or how does that Mark? Coordinate with 871   and 877?  

[01:24:52] Unknown:

I'll I'll bring Mark on. I could answer it for you, but he's kind of the IRS specialist   along with trust these days. Mark, you wanna answer Michael's question here about capital gains?  

[01:25:03] Unknown:

Yeah. At a federal level,   no. There's no capital gains tax. Your mileage may vary with your state.  

[01:25:11] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:25:12] Unknown:

But as far as the federal level's concerned, no, you do not get taxed on capital gains.   The only thing you get taxed on is income   from a US source.   So, like, if you're getting,   grant money from the government, some, you know, from a federal agency, a US agency,   that's gonna be taxable.   But as far as you making income from a from a company or   corporation   or working for yourself, you got your own business,   it's not taxable.  

[01:25:48] Unknown:

Okay.   So just because they're a US corporation doesn't mean that's that's,  

[01:25:54] Unknown:

US sales. They're not  

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a government. They're not a US government corporation.   They're a corporation   that is registered with US government,   possibly.   It could be argued.   But   even then, no. You're not getting money directly from a US source.  

[01:26:14] Unknown:

Okay. Don't most of the states,   give life to corporations and stuff these days?  

[01:26:21] Unknown:

Well, you go through the secretary of state for your state,   and you register a corporation. It's not done through the at the federal level.  

[01:26:31] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Didn't in the old days they use,   corporations like the example I remember reading about was the Erie Canal?   But they used a corporation, but after twenty years, it dissolved itself.   It wasn't in perpetuity like it is now.  

[01:26:48] Unknown:

Yeah. I   that back in the day, yes. And there used to be limitations on certain trust.   You can only have them usually, the max was, like, ninety nine years. Well, now we got   perpetual legacy trust,   commonly known as a waterfall trust,   where your heirs and great great great great grandchildren   could be   benefiting from   put putting into   the trust. In other words, they're adding to the trust instead of taking away.   Well, as you can imagine,   if you're if you're putting assets into the trust, including money,   then down the road, it could be worth multimillions   of dollars.  

So Yeah. And that's the other advantage too is if the trust does that and the money is   is transferred to a a beneficiary   and they're a national, guess what? Don't have to worry about taxes.   And for the most part, the average person   for the average person, unless you got over about,   $23,000,000,   your heirs won't be paying a tax on that. It's exempt.  

[01:28:01] Unknown:

I want to bring up a practical example in this trust discussion.   What about Alex Jones?   What about if he would have the foresight years ago to put InfoWars into a trust and   some of his personal stuff? The these guys wouldn't have been able to Sandy Hook him, would they?  

[01:28:19] Unknown:

No. No. They can still get their judgment, but there'd be nothing for them to take. He could walk right into bankruptcy court,   bankrupt the whole mess,   and walk away.   Mhmm.   He got Instead, they tried to He had a lake property, and he just he keeps bringing up, oh, I lost my lake property. Well, it's no big deal because I don't ever go there. Well, it was your family property. Now I I don't know if he bought it or if it was in their family.   That's really not clear to me. I But it sound sound like he bought it. It was for the family to have a a lake   cabin,   enjoy the lake. Getaway. And little getaway spot. Yeah. He lost it. It was in his name. Gone. Bye bye. Sold through bankruptcy.  



[01:29:03] Unknown:

Yep. All his guns or most of his guns and Yep. Whole bunch of stuff. And, I mean, I agree with him. Look. I don't miss it. And I agree less is more.   The the the less you accumulate, the less you gotta worry somebody stealing it from you. You know? Well, yeah. That's part of it. My god. The trust   yeah. The trust is a vehicle for that. So Yeah. I'm I'm just stunned and amazed  

[01:29:28] Unknown:

that,   he didn't have, you know, proper asset protection  

[01:29:33] Unknown:

for him and his business.   Yep.   And I don't know if y'all have heard me talk about it, but they tried to put a $1,750,000,000,000   fine on him out of Connecticut.   That's more than the GDP of India.  

[01:29:49] Unknown:

Unbelievable.  

[01:29:51] Unknown:

That's the gross domestic product for the But, boy, the best GDP. The best thing out of all that is when they tried to steal his name.   And Yep. He came back and tried to say no. That's against involuntary servitude in the thirteenth amendment, and they came back with you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. And I don't have him ask any questions about that.   But they have He's got a good attorney. Norm Pettus is a good attorney.  

[01:30:18] Unknown:

Yeah. But that's that's not a that's not a court decision, is it?   No. I wasn't the court opinion. Statement. No. There's the statement.  

[01:30:26] Unknown:

Yeah. The statement from the other side. Oh, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment. Would you like to explain that, please?  

[01:30:33] Unknown:

Yeah. How come and wherefore a little bit more about that.  

[01:30:39] Unknown:

Right in front of your face, folks.  

[01:30:42] Unknown:

Right in front of your face. Sent me a case yesterday that was   pretty interesting.   See if I can pull it up here.  

[01:30:50] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:30:52] Unknown:

Did you see that? It had to do with a a lawsuit against a hospital,   and there was an issue around   their private information.   And,   the other thing was their citizenship status because   they had a   a a plaintiff who was part of   the   the class, and I guess they had more than one person join together and sue this this hospital.   But what they noted was there was a challenge because when they filed the lawsuit   and before the I don't know if it was you know, you got six months, generally,   to serve another party. Like, I could file a lawsuit. Now it's federal court. I could file a lawsuit in federal court, and you got a hundred and eighty days, six months, to serve the defendants.   And in some states, that's also six months to serve the defendants.  

So,   a person had was part of the the group that brought the suit against the hospital.   And from that time, I guess, until the time they got served,   they had moved out of state.   And that was challenged that because they were out of state, they couldn't be a party. And they said, no.   Even though they're not a citizen of this state,   they still   filed the lawsuit, and they were a citizen of the state when they filed the lawsuit.   Mhmm. So they could be a party.   Yeah. It's called Chee Cheesman or Cheesman,   c h e e s m a n, versus Capital Health Systems Inc.   Number the case number is 23Dash2882,   and it's out of the third circuit court.  

And I thought that was interesting. But there was also some some inter interesting   I haven't read the case yet. I'll have to go look it up. But there was a challenge on   whether they were making their public, you know, their private information   public,   which is in violation of, a couple of different laws.   So   but I I found it interesting. They were touching on state citizenship,   you know, for for our interest in in citizenship status, and I found that interesting.  

[01:33:13] Unknown:

Isn't that interesting?  

[01:33:15] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:33:17] Unknown:

I wonder,   could a corporation   become a national corporation by filing an affidavit   since it's a person? No.  

[01:33:29] Unknown:

Is that a good question? Good question because they're they're treating them as a person.  

[01:33:34] Unknown:

Yep.  

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So they have all the rights as a person,   except they don't restrict their giving to political,   candidates,   which I never understood. I think if I'm limited to a certain dollar amount,   then the corporation as a whole could only be limited to that same dollar amount.   You would think. Like corporations can give as much money as they want to a local union. That doesn't make sense to me.  

[01:34:01] Unknown:

That sounds a little sketchy, doesn't it?  

[01:34:03] Unknown:

Yeah. It  

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does.  

[01:34:07] Unknown:

So, anybody in the audience, we've covered a lot of some complex ground today. I don't know if you're new or not. And if your head's spinning, we don't want it spinning.   And we maybe if we can help stop it spinning by answering some questions, we'd love to entertain that. So please,   know that all you have to do is hit star six,   and you can say, hey, Roger or hey, Mark or hey, Paul or any of us, and we'd love to hear from you. So it's a good time.  

[01:34:35] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. Roger. Oops. Sorry.   Okay. Still here still. Alright.  

[01:34:41] Unknown:

Okay. Michael.   Oh, let's get Dave, and we'll come back to you, Michael. Dave what?  

[01:34:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Didn't Bill Stills' dad go to prison for   tax stuff or something like that?  

[01:34:55] Unknown:

I don't know, but it would that seems very likely. They always create their own worst  

[01:35:00] Unknown:

enemies. Yeah. I'm pretty sure his dad and I learned this from Alex Jones. I learned about Bill Stowe from Alex Jones years ago.   You know, he anyway, I'm pretty sure his dad   was in prison, and he may have died in there or something. I can't remember the Well, that didn't motivate you. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That's what Bill that's what pushed Bill over the over the edge, though.   Anyway, how do you  

[01:35:27] Unknown:

Well, they made a worst enemy out of me when they stole that money from my house closing. I was already an enemy at that point. And but, they always make their own worst enemies.   This once again, it's the snake eating its tail.   Okay? Because all they're trying to do is cover   up all their their their lies and their treachery and their stealing and stuff. And the the more it gets exposed, the more they've got to try and clamp that down, and the old snake eats his tail.   Yes, sir. Who was that that just said that right now? This is Matt. Yeah. This is Matt. I I just I think that the, gentleman that was just speaking might be referring to Peter Schiff's dad, Erwin Schiff.  

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That that's true. Okay.  

[01:36:11] Unknown:

Thank you, Matt.   Thank you. And he died in   he died in federal prison   handcuffed to the bed.   And his book, The Federal Mafia,   is the only book that's been outlawed in America, I think, ever.   It was outlawed by a federal office almost every day.   Did you? In Vegas? Yeah. Yeah. In 02/2004,  

[01:36:37] Unknown:

'2 thousand and '5. Yeah. He had a little office on Sahara.   And, I'd drive by then almost every day.   I was like, oh, that's Erwin Schif's office. You know, I didn't do too much more about it.   I had   a good friend, Jerry,   who who lived in Vegas and she was former army tough as nails, smart as a   whip.   And she had done battle with the IRS and won.   And she'd helped other people win.   And when Erwin's   secretary   slash girlfriend also got indicted, I think her name was Karen,   she,   the IRS dumped, like, about 30 banker boxes full of information,   paperwork   that was supposed to be, you know, the evidence that they were gonna bring to her trial.  

So there's like, well, there's no way that that law firm was gonna be able to go through that in time for the trial.   So Jerry was friends with Karen,   and,   so we had about four of us going through all those boxes.   And it was wild was it was all about Erwin.   And almost I think we didn't even have,   a quarter of a box of papers that directly had anything to do with Karen.   But they dumped, like, 30 boxes on on them   and expecting them to go through it. Right?   So we all volunteered and went through all the boxes looking for evidence that dealt with anything that they were gonna bring against Karen. And they they didn't have hardly anything,   against Karen.  



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And and the reason they've always been such terrorists is because this tax mechanism is the linchpin   of their entire system.   They've got to be able to extract the funds   to pay the bondholders   their bond coupon payments.   If that doesn't happen, the whole thing goes upside down.   Yep. I don't know that I've ever heard anybody else comp pontificate,   Mark,   with an understanding   of this to where they make that connection right there. The whole thing wouldn't exist without the tax mechanism.  

[01:39:00] Unknown:

I agree. Hey, Roger.  

[01:39:02] Unknown:

Roger. Yes, sir. Who's that? Yes. Alright. Hold on, Larry. Who's the first guy there?  

[01:39:07] Unknown:

Allen, Indiana.   Hey, Allen. Is is Julie is Julie there? Man,  

[01:39:14] Unknown:

yes. Of course, she's here. Aren't you, Jules?  

[01:39:17] Unknown:

I'm here.  

[01:39:19] Unknown:

Yeah. My name's Alan. Can you send me the information on the, chlorine dioxide?  

[01:39:24] Unknown:

Yep. Yeah. I will. I'm sorry. I didn't get to my email yesterday, but I will do that this afternoon.  

[01:39:30] Unknown:

Yeah. [email protected].  

[01:39:36] Unknown:

Okay. I'm driving, so I'm not gonna be able to write that down. I think I gave you Okay. Did you send an email to me yesterday?  

[01:39:43] Unknown:

I   I tried three times, and I don't know if I got through or not.  

[01:39:49] Unknown:

Okay. I'll I'll check when I get back. I don't have anything to write down right now for your email. I can just turn it over to you. Can somebody who has my cell phone or my,   or my email,   send that  

[01:40:02] Unknown:

Yeah. If he'll read it off again slower who have my contact information.   Yeah. If he'll read it off again, I'll I'll send it to you. But read it off a little bit slower. I just caught a bunch of letters at Yahoo.  

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Z eight zero   a l a n  

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a l a n. At yahoo dot com.   Alright. Thank you, Alan. Okay.  

[01:40:25] Unknown:

Alright, Alan. We'll see if we can hook you up with the,   the vivacious   jewels.  

[01:40:31] Unknown:

Yep. So about the chlorine dioxide.  

[01:40:34] Unknown:

Okay. About the chlorine dioxide. There you go.   Okay. Who else has got something this morning? We got about thirty minutes Larry? Less left. Larry, I forgot you, man. Sorry.   My bad.  

[01:40:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Can can you go over again, who these bondholders are? Like,   if the federal income tax goes to pay the bondholders.   They might be I mean, how does someone become a bondholder?  

[01:41:00] Unknown:

Well, you you you may not you know, don't forget the,   Black's Law Dictionary of a villain regarding a villain attached to the land   and transferable   by deed.   So once they sell a bond, it's a viable debt instrument. They can   negotiate it, sell it, do whatever they want with it. What's been happening for the last fifteen plus years   since The US is becoming so exposed and hated   for doing all of Israel's damn dirty dealings   is that, countries   have been dumping bonds. They used to have to hold up, Larry, in their central banks   because that was required payment US dollars or bonds for Saudi and Arab oil.  

But that's kinda gone by the wayside. And as that has happened and they've   started being willing to join bricks and   accept you on for oil payments and   the kind of stuff they do,   then,   the countries that used to have to hold them have been dumping them. So that's been happening about fifteen years,   I e,   Russia.   I don't believe Russia has any US bonds anymore. They've just about dumped them all,   and they've turned that into gold. And that's why Russia's got one of the strongest balance sheets in the world right now, quite frankly.   So,   what they do, is they start let's just say, Larry, for your answer to your question that all of a sudden, they start wanting to sell their bonds, and so they put them up for sale in the in the world market.  

Well, if that's laying there in a pool of bonds for sale and it keeps growing,   the Federal Reserve's backed into a corner.   They they can't let the bonds continue because that's evidence of bankruptcy, isn't it? Nobody wants the bonds.   And so what they will do is buy them up. Now whether they keep them themselves or dump them to the treasury or whatever they do with them is the question.   Transferable   by deed. Remember that your birth certificate is attached to it as collateral   so they can sell it and manipulate it however they want to.   I have read that the Federal Reserve owns 48%   of all the issued bonds outstanding.  

That was a few years ago.   And if so, do you think the Federal Reserve wants to hold their own worthless paper, Larry?   They know it's worthless.   Okay. Well, no. So what do they do? Because it's transferable,   they take it and, like, sell it to your pension funds. So if you've got a pension fund there through whoever you work with in this   sharing   fiasco or whatever,   then you the bonds,   you owe the money to yourself.   Because if you don't pay your own bonds, then your pension's not gonna be viable, is it?   So that's what they've got them stashed is in pension funds.   So they see this big pile of cash, and here's this worthless bond. They know it's worthless paper, and so they go use it like biscuits and gravy. Well, they take that bond, and they go over and suck up all the currency   and replace it with a worthless bond. But it's still got the value, so your pension account still holds its value. So do you see what's going on here?  



[01:44:26] Unknown:

Yeah. I think most private companies have been dumping pensions,   over the years,   and very few have pensions anymore. I've looked at all the pensions Well are with, government agencies.  

[01:44:39] Unknown:

Well, what happened was we came in, started with Michael Milken back in the eighties in the junk bond fiasco.   And so they would issue junk bonds. In other words, it may be the federal bonds paying 5%.   Well, they'll put out bonds that are paying 20%.   So all these people come to buy these high yield bonds,   and and so then he's got the money to go in and buy the company away from the stockholders.   And once they get control of the company, that's one of the first things they do is jettison the pension plan.   And they strip the whole thing, strip it mining off, and moved the damn thing to China or Mexico or India or someplace.  

So that was the whole Michael Milken deal, and they're still doing it. All all they're doing now is instead of stripping the companies and moving them offshore,   the new scam is this private equity scam we've been talking about, where they go internally and strip all the equity out and leave you with a,   well, a a were a worthless hulk of a company   that you still trust in, unfortunately,   and that, they're charging 80% more   through Goldman Sachs, the new owners, at all the services they used to provide. So   private equity is the new strip mining   of the Michael Milk and Junk Bond deal. It's just another way of doing it. These bastards   are just   effing thieves.  

They just can't wait to find another way to scam you and steal your stuff.   And are you've heard us talk about this private equity asset stripping. Right,   Larry?   And so now they when you sign the contract,   they go and say, well, you don't have access to court anymore.   You've gotta go through   arbitration.   And they own the two arbitration   companies. And the arbitrators   may be judges, may be lawyers. They don't have to follow the law anymore.   So they're making decisions. You have to go to arbitration, and you're confronted with these people that you've got to pay   to do this and screw you. And and it's just an absolute travesty, man.  

I'm telling you, these sick little bitches need to be hung.   Every street corner ought to have a damn Jew hanging from it.   Yes, sir.  

[01:47:01] Unknown:

Yeah. I think it's pretty standard,   now in credit card contracts   that you can't take the bank to court,   and file a lawsuit against them. You have to go to arbitration.  

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Arbitration. Here's an example they were given.   Because they replayed both of those private equity shows on Monday in, Harrison.   The guy and the girl,   just Monday, they replayed them. So here was an example they gave. A guy had his family at Disneyland down there in Orlando just south of you there, Larry, and the woman died at some kind of a reaction in one of the food the restaurants.   So she had an allergic reaction and it killed her, and they wanted to sue Disneyland,   but the seven year old daughter   had ordered something over Uber Eats or so one of these apps on the phone, and it says, do you agree with all the terms and conditions?  

And she hit yes. And in those terms and conditions were buried that, oh, no. You can't take us to court. You gotta go to arbitration.   So that's the kind every time you do one of those terms and conditions thing, there's a somewhere in the fine print, you're relegating yourself to arbitration   in case there's a disagreement.  

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Yeah.  

[01:48:17] Unknown:

Okay? That's one thing. So that's what's going on right now today. They own 20%   of all the businesses in the country, folks, right now   in this scheme. Roger  

[01:48:29] Unknown:

Roger, in our in our trust classes, one of the things I pointed out was   if if you look at a contract and it has   arbitration,   look and see if it's binding arbitration   or nonbinding.   If it's binding,   whatever the decision of that arbitration  

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You got it exactly. Is  

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is   it. You don't get the right to appeal.   Now   one of the first appeals that I won was on arbitration. There was a North let's see.   North American   it was NAF,   National Arbitration Forum. That's what it was. National Arbitration Forum.   And the credit card company started   putting   changing their original agreements   to that of arbitration.   And the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal said, uh-uh.   You cannot   force somebody into arbitration   without their written   acceptance.   AT and T was sending out notices in the mail with the monthly billing,   and it basically said,   if you don't agree to this binding arbitration   and you don't opt out of it within sixty days,   then you agree to it.  

Well, the court said, no.   They have a constitutional   right, and they cannot waive that constitutional   right by not responding.   And so that was a big case. It was called, Ting, t I n g, versus AT and T out of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. So those people who who challenged   their mandatory arbitration   that was binding   without them agreeing to it in writing,   then then those cases or those, arbitrations got dismissed.   I yield.  

[01:50:24] Unknown:

Yep. Who was trying to say something there? Was that Tom?  

[01:50:27] Unknown:

Hey. Hey, Rogers.  

[01:50:30] Unknown:

Hello. Who's this?  

[01:50:32] Unknown:

Alan Indiana again.  

[01:50:34] Unknown:

Oh, yes. Okay, Alan.  

[01:50:38] Unknown:

Had a ticket that I went to court on last Wednesday.   Okay. And   pertaining to   operating a motor vehicle without insurance,   financial responsibility,   operate a vehicle without registration or plates displayed   and, something about crossing a center line.   And I called,   about four days before   to the prosecuting attorney   and asked if the there was still gonna be a trial Wednesday,   And they said yes.   And so I,   I says, well,   can I get an extension? He says no because we send out subpoenas.   And then I says, subpoenas to what? The officer had arrested me? Yes.   So, anyway, when I went into court,   well, I filed   another   if you have the case number and you send it to the,   court record the   clerk of the clerk of the court. Put it in your file.  

And so I I put in,   as a national with God given constitutional protected rights,   not a citizen of The United States in the condition of voluntary servitude   under the scope of the fourteenth amendment.   Article thirteen,   Second one, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude   has been abolished.   Under common law,   no harm,   loss, or injury   to a man or woman,   and I have a right to travel,   freely and   encumbered pursuant   to Shapiro   versus Thompson,   which   states that Indiana   abruptly and wrongly converted   my right into a privilege and issued a license plate and fee for it.   Murdoch versus Pennsylvania   says that they can't do that.  

And if they   do, Shuttleworth versus   Alabama,   says I can't ignore the license and engage in the right with impunity,   and that means you can't punish I. Since   I rely on the previous decisions   of the US Supreme Court   and, the constitutional   defense for   willfulness,   I am immune from the prosecution.   Therefore, the prosecution   the press   does not have cause of action   for which relief can be granted.   I, a man, motion for dismissal with prejudice   for failure to state a claim of action,   which relief can be granted, and I would   require to collect my cost and fees   for having defended   this frivolous   case   complaint.  

And they didn't wanna hear that   because when I went to court   when I when I went to court,   Wednesday,   the, I didn't see the cop there,   and he was under subpoena.   And,   when my came my case came up west, I was fourth on the roll.   The state appears   by the   deputy   prosecuting   attorney   that the defendant   appeared pro se for a bench trial.   The state presents no evidence   because the cop didn't show up to testify against me.   The court finds a defendant not guilty on all charges.  

[01:54:38] Unknown:

Well,   Alan, that was a good good response to him for the most part, but looks like you just lucked out there at the end.  

[01:54:45] Unknown:

Congratulations. It's the second   second county two years ago that happened in Stark County, and this one was in,   Indiana Porter County.   Now the only problem  

[01:54:59] Unknown:

you're you're driving with without the plates and insurance, all that intentionally, I take it.  

[01:55:05] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:55:06] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:55:07] Unknown:

Yeah.   But Okay. But if you have the case number, you can put I put in my affidavit.   I put in,   different   actually, two different affidavits.   My my my regular one and that, I put in Supreme Court rulings. I put in,   a whole bunch of   a whole lot of different things into the court. Mhmm. And they didn't want me to say it on they didn't want me to say it on the record.  

[01:55:35] Unknown:

Of course not.   That's why they waited till you they keep you till last before they heard it too.   I think it's interesting that you brought the cheap defense of willfulness,   which is an IRS defense over into your traffic defense. Have you ever heard anybody do that before, Mark?   No. I haven't. Not not for traffic. It's kinda interesting. Yeah. But I think Well, it's it's not it   wasn't it wasn't willful because I've studied all this, and here's these Supreme Court cases and whatever else   to prove it. So   pound sand.  



[01:56:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Well Yeah. The the main thing that that he did that was   what, Alan did that was very powerful was he put affidavits   into the court record.   Yes. He put written affidavits   into the court record. That is now evidence and the state had no evidence.   Yep. So they really didn't have well here's the other thing too, this is from Richard Cornforth, one of my mentors.   Since the court didn't have a witness   for the plaintiff, which is the county or the state,   the court didn't have jurisdiction to even hear the case. They had to dismiss it.  

[01:56:51] Unknown:

Yeah. They had to. One of the one of the affidavits I put in is,   they are voluntary,   violating   US code 18 section   two forty two.   I demand $10,000   damage   per offense   done in Bradstreet number   for the court.   I I put the done in Bradstreet number there   and, the case number   and my name,   address,   and,   return my property to I, the van,   May 5, the ticket. And, I put that in as an affidavit that I wanted my property back. I still didn't get it back, though. I gotta take the not how you'd move the court.  

[01:57:39] Unknown:

First off, that's not a proper statement to put in an affidavit.   Those are conclusions   and demands that you put in your affidavit.   An affidavit is just supposed to be facts.   This happened, I did that, they did this,   and it's put in usually a kind of a chronological   order.   The other stuff that you're talking about would be like a motion   to request the release of your property   and to be reimbursed   for your expenses.   If you wanna go after the the,   the police for false arrest, you'll have to file a separate case on that.  

[01:58:18] Unknown:

Yes.   So   another one file,   a case,   against the police for taking my property?  

[01:58:29] Unknown:

Well, that or the county, whoever's responsible   for taking your property   or or your false arrest is probably your your strongest,   against the police.   But,   yeah, you you gotta ask the court   for an order to release your property back to you. It'd be a very simple motion, probably one page   on such and such date, bench trial was held, defendant was found not guilty by order of the court,   the county or city is still in possession   of defendant's property and the defendant requests immediate release   of the property without   fees.  

Should not be any fees. If you were found not guilty,   there should not be any fees for them holding that property. It should be eaten by the city or the county.  

[01:59:21] Unknown:

Go chase that, Alan, and let us know how it turns out.   Yeah. That's a good idea.   Okay. We're right at the end of the show here, just FYI. Larry, what you got? Good work, Alan. Yeah. I was wondering a question for Mark. Mark, if someone,  

[01:59:37] Unknown:

files an affidavit in court   and like like you just described, they put conclusions of law in it instead of facts.   Can they retract that and put another affidavit in with the correct information?  

[01:59:51] Unknown:

Yeah. I'll tell you what. After the whistleblower, I'll answer that question.  

[01:59:55] Unknown:

Yeah. When Pitney blows, we used to call that cancel and supersede an order. If you you had an order, there's some problem with it. You just write a new one correctly   and submit it, and it would cancel the other one, and it would be the offering superseding   working   contract.   So, yep, same thing, I think. Right, Mark, basically?  

[02:00:15] Unknown:

Yeah. You do that. Absolutely. Yep.  

[02:00:18] Unknown:

Okay. Well, what they're they're gonna do that. We're gonna do this as in the program here when Crosby, Stills, and Nash. No Young here.   Get finished. And, we'll see you most likely tomorrow, hopefully, if you come back and you found something of stimulating,   irresistible   interest for you here as some folks do. I know it sounds silly, but that's the way it works. And all of a sudden, your interest we got you like,   like the captain's got that big old marlin out there behind it. So we'll just   bring you in an education,   free you, and give you a second life, and   maybe patch you on the fanny and send you down your merry way.  

We got some big mojo here. We've stolen theirs.   It's hard for people to realize, but that's exactly what's happening.   We're re empowered. We're God's chosen people.   See you tomorrow.   Hey. I think that should have given Paul enough time to pray find the button and press it.   Okay.   Now the show's over. Who else has got something they wanna bring forward?   We'll  

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see.   No?  

[02:01:33] Unknown:

Wow. That's unusual.   Okay.  

[02:01:38] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. This is Michael. I'm just standing by there for a little bit. I'm sorry. Michael got it. We've ignored you. I forgot you. Sorry.   No worries at all. It's there's a lot to a lot to cover.   So I'd heard some discussion about it, and I and I've been doing some homework on it myself. But,   the concept of putting a finer point on a distinction between   small s state   and just your corporate state.   Since it says there in the code that we owe our   allegiance to, as a national, allegiance to a small s state,   is   is there a a place I can look to to quantify that, to summarize,  

[02:02:24] Unknown:

you know, should I don't know about that. It appears that they use it interchangeably   throughout the history of our country, the capital, and the smallest state, not all the time through our understanding.   But if you really wanna see a stark difference,   you need to go, Michael, over to that certificate of noncitizen   nationality.   It's on the state department website there. Right. Travel.state.gov.   And once they get finished with the policy statement, that's where it says in the second or the third paragraph, depending on which version   you're looking at. All according to the INA, all US citizens are US nationals.  

Makes that statement.   After the policy statement is finished down below,   they break out some of the paragraphs   of the INA, and and that one of them is the one you just mentioned. I think it's section three zero eight,   nationalist total allegiance to a small estate.   And a couple of paragraphs below it,   they then defined all the federal states. And they list them,   some of them, I think, and it's capital s.   So there's your stark difference right there   from their own mouth on their own website. Okay?  

[02:03:39] Unknown:

The by   omission.  

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So good.  

[02:03:42] Unknown:

Well, no. There's no omission. They they just don't define the smallest state. They leave that hanging. They show you the federal state is capitalized, though.  

[02:03:53] Unknown:

Which which tells you that it's not that that it's not referring to the smallest?   Exactly.   Okay.  

[02:04:01] Unknown:

That's great. That's helpful. Or you can go if you wanna even further buttress that. You can go back in the IRS regulations   where prior to 1957,   Alaska and Hawaii were states.   And after they gave them statehood, they had to take them out of that category,   and that change   illustrates that also.   K? Alright.   Thank you very much. Yep. So I took them from a capital s to a small s.   Okay. Yeah. Yes. Mark, you got any other illustrations for him maybe?  

[02:04:38] Unknown:

Yeah. I do. If you look at the,   I believe Dave and Kaye   on nationalstatus.com,   they said the third edition of Black's Law has a definition   of the small s state.   The other one is if you go back and look at the Webster's   University's,   dictionary   1940.   Now this is from Gavin, one of our one of our listeners. He's not on here much. He's a busy guy.   He's another really sharp paralegal.   Does a lot in the private area,   common law private area. Very sharp guy.   He discovered   that in the 1940   Webster's   University's   Dictionary,   They have that on the floor on congress so whenever   they are looking at definitions   to write their law, they would look at that.  

He got a copy   and I bought a copy off of eBay   and   if you if you go to state,   you'll find there's a definition for   the smallest state like a verb and like state of mind. And the fifth one   has to do with   the   the   the states that make up a union   of The United States Of America   and it gives   the original   abbreviations for the states that were multiple letters, like Oklahoma was o k l a period   before they went to the two code postal code.   And then if you flip the page, there's a definition for   large s state   and it references   countries or nations.  

And the smallest state, they refer to basically a sovereign   state group of people that make up the one of the states of the union.   So that's one of the the definitions that you'll see.  

[02:06:45] Unknown:

That's great. So multiple places there. That's great. Yes. Yes.  

[02:06:50] Unknown:

Yep. So anything else, Michael?  

[02:06:53] Unknown:

No. That's it. I'm I'm just happy to be connect with you guys, and it's just,   it's, you   know, a confidence boost   for sure. You know, I'm I'm sure, like, many of us have been at this for a while, but just to have   this   distillation   down to something   so tangible and verifiable   that that's  

[02:07:16] Unknown:

It's great. So And and very much actionable   and actionable too. And the beautiful part of it is you can do it with one sentence on one piece of paper to one guy. I it can't get any simpler.  

[02:07:29] Unknown:

Mhmm. Which is exactly what I did. Setting on the floor today.  

[02:07:33] Unknown:

Yep. And folks just find it very, very difficult to believe because they can't get to the conceptual   part that these guys are nothing but magicians.   They create   illusions.   Our whole life has been an illusion.   It's based on the fact that we call debt money   and that we think we're free and we're actually slaves and the little things generated off our backs.   Those two little things create allow them to create this illusion,   and it's hard for people to believe that they've been so   taken in by it.   But some people just can't accept it, period. Okay.   So if you do, you would consider yourself lucky. Yeah. You're chosen.  

I believe we're the chosen people. We're the remnant. Yeah, Larry.   Oh, Larry.  

[02:08:31] Unknown:

Yeah. Hey.   Have you ever given it any thought?   Most most politicians   and judges are ignorant about the national status,   which most of us students already know. Most people in general are ignorant of the national status.   And,   so Marco Rubio became the secretary of state not too long ago, and I think he was a former,   congressman.   And He's a senator. He's a neocon.  

[02:09:00] Unknown:

Was he a senator? Former senator, and he was he was from Florida.   He's a Florida state, Florida senator, and he was a neocon.   And Trump has   Trump has really groomed him. He has really blossomed under Trump in this   in one of the better secretary of states that since I've been conscious of this that I remember. So go ahead.  

[02:09:25] Unknown:

Yeah. I think he was a congressman before, senator, because I looked up his history. But anyway Yeah.   So let's just assume he was ignorant   about the national status.   Do you think,   these these these different politicians who eventually make their way up to becoming   a secretary of state,   do you think they are taken aside   and explain all this information so that when it comes across their desk,   they,   you know, they're educated about the subject?  

[02:09:58] Unknown:

I tend to think that they're kept in the dark like they do with all the other folks as best they can on sensitive matters.   But I promise you where it is known,   on the seventh floor of the state department.  

[02:10:14] Unknown:

Why? What's there?  

[02:10:16] Unknown:

It's, where they've got all their bad guys. The Seventh Floor of the FBI Building is the same thing.   They they they take this numerology   stuff very serious.   I remember looking at the State Department website years ago, and there was all the people listed there, you know, whatever,   high up big wigs over there.   Every one of them, everyone had a Columbia PhD.   They're all up on the Seventh Floor, and that's where the real   evil is contained. Can I put it that way? Would that make sense to you?  

[02:10:54] Unknown:

Yeah. I agree. They do take the number seriously.   I just this came across my feed yesterday.   Of course, your website is named after the famous movie, The Matrix.   And, I don't know if a lot of students know this, but when Neo was being interrogated   by by agent Smith,   when he was trying to run out of the office building,   he, was presenting his passport card,   and it actually had the 09/11 date on it, I believe, for the expiration date.  

[02:11:28] Unknown:

Is that right?   Well, it's, I it's very close to the matrix, what we're living in. And what is the matrix is the administrative state and unelected   bureaucrats   making laws called regulations.   And the the the there are thousand tens of thousands of them. And, you can't go through one day without breaking several of them probably.   And, that's that web that keeps you in.   And it's just like Morpheus says,   you can't see it and you can't touch it,   but you can feel it.  

[02:12:05] Unknown:

That's true. So it it's your   it is.   Yeah. So it's your belief that these, different politicians that make their way up to becoming The US Secretary Of State, that they're not   give given an education about the national status. They're not taking a side. They they end up discovering it on their own. And then when Well when this paperwork starts coming across their desk, do they go to someone and say, what the heck is this national status? I'm getting these in the mail.  

[02:12:34] Unknown:

If I was a fly on the wall up there, I could tell you, but I'm not, and I can't.   K?   That's what I think. I'm not just I'm sure your best guess, Roger. Well, I'm I'm just telling you what I've I've I've come to the conclusions of is there's only a few people in real hierarchical   positions   that know this stuff.   And the example I would use to tell you that is Tim Geithner,   tiny Tim Geithner, when he was,   nominated and became secretary of the treasury.   And they got him up there. He's a legacy guy and from these monsters. His daddy was some kind of something big in the financial world.   And,   they got him up in front of the Senate for confirmation. And one of them says, have you,   would you pay in income taxes last year?  

Well, I haven't filed in about five years. It was my turbo tax that messed up.   See, people of that hierarchy   would be what will almost have to know this, but   I don't think people below that do.   I've I don't know. One way you can always tell   is, well, look at Hunter Biden. They went after him on an on income tax charges, didn't they?   On California.   Right?   Yeah. Well, obviously, well, the president's son doesn't know about it   because they're going after him for income tax crimes. If he knew about it, he have an affidavit on file. He wouldn't have any IRS obligations.   So that's another,   way to look at it if you find people talking about the tax issue. How high are they up in the hierarchy, and are they still paying taxes? Now government employees   like Biden,   well, he's required to pay the taxes on his salary.  

Okay?   Because he's a government employee.   But the other, his son, etcetera, are not.   So anyway, does that answer your question best, Larry? That's  

[02:14:38] Unknown:

Yeah. That's   confusing.  

[02:14:40] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:14:41] Unknown:

I've come to those conclusions over the years. Yes. Who's the female? Is that Julie?  

[02:14:46] Unknown:

It's Merca.   Merca. Hey, Marc. Hey. Good morning.  

[02:14:52] Unknown:

Yes, ma'am.  

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Or Mike I think it was Michael, right, that you were talking to him earlier? Yes. Up in, Rhode Island.   And then, I know Larry knows this.   The AGs   understand who the private individual is. So   if we want to start educating people under to,   to, you know, educating the public servants   to understand that we are the private individual  

[02:15:18] Unknown:

national. That's that's an excellent point because when you send the notice to the California AG,   they write back and tell you they're very aware of their private citizens.   So they at least and and this is one of those situations in law where when you present this to them, if they didn't know about it, it's their duty to go research it and find out about it. So the phrase is either knew or should have known.   So they're in that position. It's the highest   law, position in the state. If they don't know these nuances on the law, then they have a duty to avail themselves   of the information   somewhere   so that they can understand it and write a response back like they do to the California people where they say we protect our private citizens or whatever it is they say. Good good point, Myrca. Thank you. They they don't,  

[02:16:12] Unknown:

they   appreciate their citizens, you know, contacting them, and we we do,   they acknowledge   the a private individual.   So Yeah. That's, like, for for an AG to ignore that is is just ignorant of the law. So there's no Well, it is. And  

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and having gone through the nation's law schools, I guess you gotta give them a   a little bit of leeway on that fact, but they do have a duty because of their employment to know or should have known. And this is where our teeth are.   Because, see, they're not giving us the protection that they they're supposed to give us.   And as private citizens, they're not protecting us from the California State Patrol   or   the county,   whatever officer or whatever. They're supposed to protect us from those people. We're supposed to be isolated   from them, and that's where one of these days, Mark, maybe we can write up some sort of a short   little,   like a memorandum of law that people could send in when they're sending the notices to the state AGs.  



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Or just discuss it and have a discussion   between all of us so that everybody learns and talks about it and understands it and absorbs it.  

[02:17:31] Unknown:

And I missed this for years. It just hit me a couple of years ago on the air talking about it one day. I go, well, hell, this is our teeth, and we're we're missing it totally,   is to hold their feet to the fire on us   because they've got the duty. They've got the obligation.   And if you go back and understand that formula, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance, there's no wiggle room in there. They don't have a way to wiggle out of it because it's a federal statute   that makes them give us the protection that we're doing owing as state citizens.   And,   I believe you know what? On some of these, Mark, that could be a, defendant right there, the attorney general under some of these auspices.  



[02:18:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Could be.   You weren't upholding your duty.  

[02:18:18] Unknown:

Roger, it's also important for people to understand in how to put together their own affidavit and, the legal notices.   Practice sit on their own,   you know, typing it up and using that as their power, you know,   to you against the,   you know, whatever they're defending themselves in to educate the public servants.  

[02:18:41] Unknown:

Yep.   So, there's you got a lot of power here in the traffic thing. I well, you know, as much as I hate it,   it's the world many people interface with this monster.   And,   it's, Alan, I thought you did a real good job on that, by the way.   And,   sorry, but it's just the way it is, but the overall concept works. It's solid. If you're new and you don't believe this,   I I I just tell you to continue to listen and learn the information, and you'll start at some point understanding why.   And that point is probably different with everybody.   Okay?  

Roger, I don't know. Our our our enemies know it is for real. Yes, Marco?  

[02:19:28] Unknown:

The the example that, Alan shared earlier was was pretty awesome.   It reminded me of what Carl Miller does,   using,   you know, defending himself bringing in,   the cases,   you know, line by line like he did. Yeah. Carl Miller is very sharp, folks.  

[02:19:48] Unknown:

He, he was sharp when I saw him 30 ago. I can tell you that.   He's probably just gotten a lot more polished in his old age. He's still with us, isn't he?   Dave, do you know if Carl Miller is still with us?  

[02:20:05] Unknown:

Someone mentioned it not long ago.  

[02:20:08] Unknown:

I hope so. He was a really, really sharp guy. I was very impressed with him. Okay. Anybody else with anything for me today?   First day in a week I felt worth a crap. So I'm gonna Roger. Do something. Yes, sir. Larry. There's Larry again.  

[02:20:25] Unknown:

Yes, sir. Got any, news on getting Eugene Schroeder back?  

[02:20:30] Unknown:

We hadn't talked to Joe about it. He hadn't mentioned it. I'd love I don't know that he's ever been here in the first place, but I'd love to have that follow-up conversation with him. The problem we got is he's right into summer out there now. And he's on not only got his own farm, he's also still a practicing veterinarian, I believe.   So, we're not catching him at the best time of the year.   But maybe, I don't know, we can ask Joe. K.   Alright. Anybody else?   Yes.   Going once, going twice.   Alright. I'll see y'all tomorrow on Thursday. Thank you, Paul. You and I still I need to talk to you about this Skype thing when we can get a chance.   And,   I'll, see the rest of the crew tomorrow. We'll see what happens today. I'm gonna go back to watching,   Harrison bash the Jews, man. I love to see that.  

Okay. He and he he's got a good bit of knowledge too.   He's bringing out some stuff that only someone who studied this would know.   So go get them, Harrison.  

[02:21:41] Unknown:

I'll, I'll see you tomorrow. One thing And the more they get the oh, yes, sir? One thing I wanted to, bring up, I am I was kinda thinking it would be bring up brought up during the show, but it wasn't.   Julie,   sent out   a text message this morning of a Rumble link   about the   the assisted,   suicides   and the medical Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. Saw yeah. The pods. Right. Right. The the pods, Bill Gates, and Fauci sitting there with a with a crap eating grin on his face and all that,   they're trying to position themselves so they cannot be held accountable   for assisting them.  

And the first thing that came to mind was, well, how accountable would they be if they ended the life of a national by force?   That would be murder. They couldn't skate.  

[02:22:40] Unknown:

No. They they can't skate around it.   So,   yeah. God, this world.   Yeah. Ugh.   Money produces monsters, folks. Sorry to say it. Well,  

[02:22:54] Unknown:

one the one takeaway from that is if you were waiting for Medbeds   and,   holographic   medical technology   maybe not. It might not be a Medbed.   It might be a death plot.  

[02:23:09] Unknown:

That's what we ought to do with them is is,   convict them and make them get in those death pods. Good lord. They'd be squawking and kicking, wouldn't they? Did you Alright. Did you see find money.  

[02:23:22] Unknown:

They were doing autopsies on some of the the assisted   medical deaths   in,   Canada.   And when they did the autopsies, they found 50% of the lungs filled   half the lungs half filled with fluid.  

[02:23:38] Unknown:

So Yeah.  

[02:23:39] Unknown:

They're not,   they're they're trying to say that it's a peaceful   death,   but what they're doing is they're forcing fluid into the lungs and they give the patient a parasitic,   a paralytic.   So they're paralyzed   and couldn't move, couldn't make a sound.   Point of your cell level. Peaceful, but in a conscious way of the whole thing.  

[02:24:07] Unknown:

Yep. No. No. Thank you. Somebody said define money.   Do I hear that?   Somebody said define money. Well,   the way I understand it, money is something positive,   you know, gold that I'm can I defer to JPMorgan   when he was in the senate in his   last century, and he came up and said, what is what what is gold? And he said, gold's money. That's all.   K? So anything solid, silver,   seashells, maybe,   that can retain value. There's about five different things   that qualify money. It has to be divisible,   has to be durable.   I don't remember all of them, but that's the qualification.  

I just think of it as something solid. Metals, Bitcoin,   land,   something tangible.   K? Not debt. Yeah. Because that's See, debt's not tangible.   That's  

[02:25:04] Unknown:

Right. Everybody's   everybody's arguing over, like, how much a house should be, how much rent should be. We're like,   you know, Christ is like, oh, he can't be rolling over his grave. But, I mean, it's just so  

[02:25:15] Unknown:

it's so vast backwards. You know? So Yep. Sure do. Well, that's why we they can create illusion out of it. Oak yes, Bruce?  

[02:25:24] Unknown:

How about water?  

[02:25:26] Unknown:

Well, it may be.   They're they're trying to make anything that's scarce, divisible, etcetera, etcetera,   meets those criteria.   It's money.   And, I'll,   go go see if you can get some, and we'll talk about it tomorrow. Okay?   So ciao ciao.  

[02:25:46] Unknown:

Ciao, Raj.  

[02:25:50] Unknown:

Thanks, Raj.  

[02:25:52] Unknown:

So the stream's still up.   Anybody's got, anything to add,   to the topics as discussion during the show,   have at it.  

[02:26:03] Unknown:

Hey, Paul. Is Julie on still?  

[02:26:08] Unknown:

I don't know. Let me see.   I'm here. There you see. Hey, Julie.  

[02:26:14] Unknown:

We're we're having trouble with the email, and you wanted my,   my website. Can I text that to you? That'd be a lot easier.  

[02:26:24] Unknown:

Who is who is this speaking right now? The phone.   Oh, Dave. I have your Gmail. I'll just send you a Gmail.  

[02:26:32] Unknown:

We're yeah. Then I gotta   get my wife to do it,  

[02:26:37] Unknown:

and she's got so much on her plate. I forgot about that. I don't wanna give my   call  

[02:26:43] Unknown:

if you can I don't know? I don't if somebody could send you my if Paul could just text you my phone number Yep. And then you send me a text, and I'll text you back.  

[02:26:52] Unknown:

Is that okay? That works for me.  

[02:26:55] Unknown:

Thank you. I know you're driving. Right? You can't see my I'm  

[02:27:00] Unknown:

in Swampland, DC.  

[02:27:02] Unknown:

Okay. I'm in Swampland, DC, and it's not fun here today. I hope you got your I hope you got your wet suit and,   scuba gear on.  

[02:27:12] Unknown:

It's pouring.  

[02:27:14] Unknown:

Oh, boy. Holy moly. I guess you really need that then.  

[02:27:18] Unknown:

Do I today, I could use that.  

[02:27:20] Unknown:

Yeah.   Paul, could you facilitate that for me, please?  

[02:27:26] Unknown:

Thank you, Paul. Second.  

[02:27:28] Unknown:

Thank you. Appreciate it.   I yield.   Hey, Paul. Did Amelia ever call you?  

[02:27:44] Unknown:

No. She didn't.  

[02:27:46] Unknown:

She didn't.  

[02:27:48] Unknown:

She can be a little wishy washy. She's older,   but,   she might I I'll, I'll check-in with her and see if see what's going on. No pressure.   I know.  

[02:28:00] Unknown:

I don't   push anyone.   So  

[02:28:05] Unknown:

Right.   I know.  

[02:28:10] Unknown:

Alright. Thanks.   Thank you. Hey, Paul.  

[02:28:14] Unknown:

Paul, what's the word to put in front of PodHome   if I'm not going through the Rogers website?   But   but but is it serve? Is it s e r v   e dot   Podholm?   Seems like it was a word that starts with an s.  

[02:28:32] Unknown:

Yeah. It's serve dot pod home dot f m,   and it's forward slash   well, here, let me see.   Global-voice-radio@serve.podhome.fmforwardslashglobal-voice-radio.   And that'll get you via tracks list. Alright?  

[02:30:05] Unknown:

Thank you. You're welcome.  

[02:30:13] Unknown:

K. Well,   everybody's done talking. Let's do this. Let's put this to bed. Thanks for joining us for the Wednesday edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales for,   05/28/2025.   Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern.   And,   for more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrixdocs.com.   That is the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com.   I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. That's it for me today. Take care.  

[02:30:59] Unknown:

Thank you, Paul.  

[02:31:23] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.