In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates through a myriad of topics, from the intricacies of political status and citizenship to the historical context of legal systems. The conversation delves into the distinction between being a citizen of The United States versus a citizen of The United States Of America, highlighting the importance of understanding one's political status. Roger and his guests discuss the challenges of educating people about their rights and the complexities of legal definitions, emphasizing the need for a clear understanding of the law to reclaim personal freedoms.
Additionally, the episode touches on the historical influences on modern legal systems, with references to the Roman civil law and the evolution of legal practices over centuries. The discussion also explores the role of economic and political forces in shaping societal norms and the importance of spiritual revival in restoring ethical governance. Special guest Paul English joins the conversation, offering insights into the communication challenges faced by truth-seekers and the need for concise, impactful messaging to engage a broader audience.
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morning, audience. Well, we got a holiday behind us there. Things settling back into routine, I guess, here on Tuesday, May at the Radio Ranch with your host, Roger Sales. That would be me. Now right here at the front, we, asked Paul to come out and put their I know Alan's with us this morning because he's playing the Stray Cat Blues there. So, who else is with a Stray Stray Cat Strut? Whatever. Well, the difference between Stray Cat Blues and a Stray Cat Strut. I'm just saying. Well, I understand, but I'm an old man doing recalls, so give me a break. Anyway, Paul's gonna identify the folks in including Alan and above Alan that are with us. And, we thank each and every one of you. We certainly want you to get the recognition and credit that you, our associates, have earned.
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Yes. For sure. And I will try and remember them all because, you know, when it comes to getting old, I resemble that remark. Anyways, we are on a full complement of platforms today. We're on radiosoapbox.com for two hours today, the full two hours. For the first hour of the program, we're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago, WBOU FM, the pulse of Chicago. Thanks to our buddy, pastor Eli James. We are on eurofolkradio.com. That, of course, is our primary and anchor platform. That's where it began, or at least this iteration of the Radio Ranch. We're on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Euro Folk Global Voice and free conference call to join us live on the show are on our website, thematrixdocs.com.
The matrix, d 0 c s Com. And we are also on the Net family of broadcast services that, also brought us WBOU. We're on homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live tv, and streamlife.tube. I believe we are the anchor program on stream life at this time of the day too. So I
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don't know how you remember all that in the first place, quite frankly. But, anyway, nice to have all the help. Nice to have the extension, if you will. And, evidently evidently, we're growing. You know, you get reports from Dave and Kaye. God bless them down there in LA. That's Lower Alabama. And on the Pearl River, I believe. And, they have noted all kinds of activity on the on that website from all over the world, including me. They've said saw a couple of UN flags pop up now and then, so that's good. We're reinforcing your, bylaws there, UN, that every man has the right of personal political self determination, and we're, we're determining that we ain't Jew slaves anymore.
That's right. Isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? So, anyway, gosh. Here we go. Tuesday. So it's a pretty day here in Ecuador. Got some sunshine in this morning. That's good. And, yesterday was kind of a repeat day. Best I could tell, everybody had repeats going on. I'm feeling good enough yesterday. I did get out, yeah, and go eat eat something because I didn't wanna go to the grocery store on an empty stomach and, and then went to the grocery store to resupply for the depleted supplies of the last six days, I guess, is when I've been feeling like, hammered monkey. So, don't get sick very often, but, boy, that got me. And my sinuses are very susceptible because they're screwed up anyway.
I I accused my mom of that because that's where I got them, and she said, sorry. So anyway, I gotta live with it, and, that hit me real hard last week. It's just I was absolutely totally worn out. I'd come do the show and then go lay down for the rest of the afternoon and five days in a row or something like that. But today, I'm feeling a little better. Probably sound a little nasal still, because the the memory still lingers, Like the traffic guy in Atlanta used to say after an accident, the memory still lingers. So don't know if there's a whole lot to talk about. I just heard a couple of things on Harrison. He didn't have anything to substantially cover that was a a verse shattering importance this morning that I heard anyway.
So, we'll just get off into some kind of a conversation. Maybe even maybe we had some new people on. That'd be, welcome. And we've got a number of peep well, there it's not a new person, but there's Julie right there. Morning, Julie.
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Good morning, everybody. Hey. Am I too loud, or is my voice okay? No. You're fine. You're fine. So yesterday, I don't know if I'm sure there's a lot of people on here who are aware of this, but there are a lot of groups that are forming called jural assembly groups.
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Called what? Called what?
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They're called general assembly groups in The States, and they are trying to take their states back and reform reconstitute the republic. So, anyway, this I'll make a long story short. I've been on several of these groups and I have not I've had issues with them and there's one out in California that I particularly do like, but, they meet, in the evenings on free conference call when I have things that, other commitments like I'm in the PMA group with Mark and stuff, and that's a priority for me. And so there's I have time conflicts. So make a long story short, it was Memorial Day last night, and so they held a, call last night, and I got on. And I asked all of them. I said, how on earth can you guys, do a an assembly if you're still a fourteenth, fourteenth Amendment citizen, and, I just don't understand that. And they basically said that they don't recognize anything, after the thirteenth Amendment.
So, then they said that they have met with the military and they have met with the FBI to determine that what they're doing is correct and not not unlawful and that it will work and that they won't wouldn't get accused for something like, insurrection or something like that. And the military and the FBI have, assured them that what they're doing is correct. And so what they do is they have these papers that they sign called a declaration of a new declaration of independence, a new declaration of unalienable rights, and a, jurill covenant of office. So anyway, I still didn't quite understand what they were doing, and I said, I really think you ought to get on Roger's show tomorrow. And they I told them the matrix doc. They went through the whole website, and I said and I gave them the number and the FCC site. And I said, if any of you guys could get on tomorrow, I said it would be awesome. You can hit star six to unmute yourself, or you can raise your hand or unmute yourself if you're using the free conference call thing and come on here and talk to Roger so Roger can talk to you about the fourteenth amendment citizen because they don't believe in becoming a national. They don't think that's something that's necessary. So I don't know if anybody's on here. If you are, we would love to talk to you.
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Yeah. We'll try and explain it to you. I don't know how you disavow anything past the thirteenth amendment when the whole the whole, country's built on the fourteenth amendment. Let me see. Let's get because it says that yes. You can. Somebody's here. Well, okay. Yes, sir. I think. Paul, I got a I got a message, a a blue message here. If you could come on and see what that is, please.
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I think that's, I think I think that's that's Microsoft nagging you to upgrade to Windows 11.
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It's it's something to do with Bill Gates and his monstrosity, Microsoft. Anyway, I I don't want it to knock me into an update in the middle of the program because they're trying to force that on me, of course. Okay. Let's get to our guy here.
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There's a This is one from, WVOU, and I have a lot of information about what they are doing. About ten years ago, there was a gentleman, they were called the paper trip seven. And, there was a gentleman by the name of Eric Brandt. Eric Brandt was the only survivor of that group. Everyone else is in federal custody.
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Ah. And what they did That
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should give you some indication right there, Julie. Go ahead, Alan. Sorry. They fought their own grand jury, and having done so, they didn't have any political sanction. And having done that, yes. In part, they were absolutely right. You can form a civilian grand jury, but they, was lost in the dogma. It does have something to do with the fourteenth amendment. However, there was no authority to assemble as in a group as that would address the government. Without that authority, they were all convicted.
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Yeah. Well, they you know, again, I don't know. The these people just don't understand what's going on, and God bless them. I understand that they don't. It's complex. But how do a bunch of serfs get up and overthrow the lord of the manor?
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He runs. Because it's there's a power. You the biggest problem is everyone forgets we the people. And if if it is drawn by we the people, then there is no government. There is no, posse comitatus. There's no none of that. There's nothing. It's just we the people. And the biggest problem that we have is when they sit there and they try to separate We the People from the government. And that's the separation that we're actually trying to close the gap on because We the People are not in control anymore. Well, you're not a people when you're a serf.
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Sorry. But We The People were free people. They weren't serfs. Hey, Rog. You volunteered into being a serf. You agreed with their condition. And yet these people here say, well, we don't recognize that. Well, I'm sorry, but they do. So Can it's a different word than serve because, it's actually a, a shortening of a word servant. No. It's servitude. Servitude. And you're involuntary servitude, which is constitutional.
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Roger? For everybody on here, their website is americancivicseducation.org.
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Okay. Well, Julie, I'd go back and say, you know, after the Murrah Building, you were still asleep back then, weren't you?
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Well, I listen. I wanted people to come on here today to listen to you and all the education that you have Oh. Put your life on on putting together for all of us blessed people who are on here. I was just hoping to get another person on here to Well see, you know, what we're doing here, and Right. And,
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I guess nobody showed up today. Well, honey, I did two hours on Jeff Rents with a multi international audience, and none of them came either. So don't don't feel too frustrated. Yes, Paul.
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I think that both both Julie and Alan buttressed their own arguments because, what these groups are doing is they're attempting to assemble to overthrow the manor, but they are under a presumption of being a serf. They were nationals to begin with. They were nationals, and then the citizenship under the fourteenth amendment, that presumption was overlaid over them under contract. Birth. So birth. So they're both absolutely correct. Allen is correct because fourteenth amendment citizens tried to form grand juries without the authority to do so because they didn't assert their natural authority as, Well nationals.
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Well, Larry Clayman is trying to do the same thing right now. He's pretty celebrated attorney out there, founded Judicial Watch and all that. Messianic Jew, Larry. He's holding, trying to get citizen grand juries and all that stuff. He doesn't know our stuff. But I'm gonna tell Larry right out front, you're never gonna accomplish anything. You're never gonna accomplish anything until you throw hold on a second, Alan. You're never gonna accomplish anything until you throw off the yoke. I mean, I don't see how y'all don't see that.
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It's all about throwing off the yoke. When I when I first entered with Hold on, Julie. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, if you remember when I first entered, there is a duality. You have a duty. You have your citizenship. The problem is they're presuming the duty first. And, with that structure, the hierarchy structure, that duty comes down all the way to the bottom, which means it wipes out your individuality, your individual authority. And, that's one of the questions that I had is we actually do have a dual status. And what they're doing is they're trying to engage that dual status without declaration.
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And without that No. They got no. They power. Can't be granted the power. You can't be have that power taken away. You just simply never claimed to have it. Alan, you're the one that answered the two questions. Yes. Every time they every time they ask you and you sign something. Didn't you?
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On my driver's license,
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you said No. Throughout all our lives, we've been asked those two questions in all kinds of financial stuff and other, and other documents. All of us have. Maybe sometimes twenty, thirty, 40 times throughout your lifetime. You always answered yes and you signed something. And yet you come back and say, well, they've been tricking us and this and that. No. You they, they did trick you. But now we know what it is. Untrick it and go get your rights back.
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It's a lie by omission.
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Yes. Well, so what? They do that a lot. They're Roger. You're the one that's responsible for catching it. That's the deal. If you wanna be individually responsible, you gotta go, hey. I did this. And belly up to the bar, correct it, and now go out and start swinging your sieve.
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Hey, Raj. Gary is here. Gary as in Gary and Gina? Gary. Gary as in Gary and Gina. Go ahead, Gary. I
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I you know, I mean, it's pretty clear cut to me, Alan. Some people wanna make this shade of gray stuff. To me, it's real clear cut. It ain't no shade of gray. You're either pregnant or you're not pregnant. Okay? Sorry. Gary, what you got? It
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goes back to the fact that Supreme Court has ruled US citizens are property.
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Yep. And if your property,
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whoever your owner is, dictates your rights. Plain and simple. I mean, it's covered on those two pages of the court cases that I I refer to all the time. If you're not reading those two pages of court cases, then you have no idea what's really going on. They
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spell it out a %
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on those two pages of court cases.
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So, anyway, that's these lines. So I appreciate Julie going in there and talking to all those folks. None of them showed up. Well, probably many of them are employed, so I can understand that. But if you Roger? My if you don't know and go through what we teach here, you are pissing up a rope to try and get any kind of grievances. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I like I said, I mean, this is before I even became your student that I was searching for the truth and I was trying to find out what to do and how to maneuver and navigate all of this complexity because remember, as I told everybody before, I was a student of David Strait, Bobby Lawrence, and Yvonne Wright's and how I stumbled on your class was a miracle because it resonated with me from inception. But as far as all these general assemblies, they're very, they're not consolidated. They're so fragmented. They're all over the place. There's a lot of infighting for lack of a better adjective. And I know Nancy and I have spoken and Nancy and I know about a Virginia General, General Assembly here that we both are not we've I've been on like one call or something like that. It didn't resonate with me at all. And I think I don't know, I'll let Nancy speak for herself and not misconstrue something. But, anyway, I have a really close friend here, who resonates with this group and she said, can you just please get on this tonight? Can you please get on this tonight? You don't have any calls. And she goes, I just want to know what you think. And so that's I got on and I threw that out. I said, I don't understand how any of you guys are doing any of this as long as you're still a fourteenth Amendment citizen. And I said, I really highly recommend you get all on Roger's show. It's six days a week. I gave them the website with all the documents and the phone and the FCC, and I said, if one of you guys, there were a ton of people on last night, could just get on to hear Roger's point of view on what you need to do.
And, I guess nobody's on here, so I'm I'm not going back on that again. It didn't resonate with me, so I I yield, but I'm hoping to get You know, it's like
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it it's kinda like Anavon Wright's trying to do this with assemblies all over the country, and they don't have any real firm footing. I guess you have to go through and you go to a leader, and he gives you a test to see if you know enough to be led into the assembly. That's kinda what I've been heard the the way they're structured. But they're not on the same page.
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Yeah. But, Roger, I mean, even if you wanna do a general's journal assembly, that's exactly what that doctor and lawyer, Reiner Folmich, did in Germany. He left California, went over there, and did his own drill assembly. Where is he? In jail. They arrested him.
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Yeah. So anyway, all I know is this is the only way in all the thirty something years I've been in this that I've ever seen people be consistently successful to the point where somebody from the passport office calls you, tells you they can't do what you want them to do, and you engage them in like Jerry did in a conversation. And whoever Hilton was that day from the passport office, probably more likely from the Seventh Floor of the state department, and told Jerry, he said, you really know your stuff. Boy, that now I'm a tell you what that made me if I was a peacock, I'd had my feathers up. Okay?
Because that just comes right back to me even though he doesn't know it and doesn't realize it. But that's why I emphasize education education, learn the material, learn the material, because they can't defeat you that way. And, really, we get enough people and they can't stop us either. So, you know, it's all it all goes back to this every time. Yes, Gary.
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Just to let you know, I contacted the head of the general society here at state of Montana. They wanna hear what we've got. She was very
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You got your I've also contacted
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Okay. In state of Montana.
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You're clipping real bad. Let me see if I can interpret what I heard. You contacted the leader of the Joral Society in Montana, and he was very combative when you tried to present him with the information like other people are have been. Is that correct? Is that what I heard? You're real choppy. Yes. And it was the she. It wasn't a he. Can you hear me better now? She had to change a little bit. Yes. You're you're you're not as clippy. Yes. Well, you know, our I got a friend, he's over in Philippines now, Scott. Some of you remember Scott hanging around here.
Old Atlanta boy. And, he, got on Facebook and found the expat page, You know, people going to expatriate, and he put a link to my stuff up there, and they they they blocked him. Go figure. Okay. If you understand the expatriation process and what you have to go through and the amount of money you have to spend, the amount of time it takes, and they rather than seeing this and having an open mind about it, blocked him from their page. So I don't know what to do about these people that are so close minded except plant a seed, pray for them, and go on about your way. Find somebody else. You know, here's the deal.
Some will, some won't, so what next?
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Roger?
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Yes, sir.
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I'm convinced that a lot of these people are paid agitators. Really? Maybe. Decide. They gotta be.
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They gotta be. Our enemy is not above our enemy to do something like that.
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Because the only thing that's referenced in the UCC and the CFR is national.
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Okay.
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That has a separate that's a separate
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it's it's it's everywhere you point. Yesterday, we're talking about it's in the passport, etcetera, etcetera. Julie, here if you talk to those people or anybody else, here's a good conversational little deal. If you get into one of these conversations, say, look. We're having a hard time agreeing here. Can we get to some place that we can agree on so we got some common ground? Well, if they say no to that, just, you know, go on about your way. But to say, okay. Well, there's only two political status. You're you're either free or you're a slave. Would you agree with that? Well, they gotta agree with it because there are no other options.
Okay? So you're either free or you're a slave. Okay? And then you might ask them, well, which one are you? And let them tell you. And so if they say they're free, then you come back and say, like last night on your call, Julie, oh, you're free? Well, tell me all the things you can do without a license, a permit, or permission since you're so free. Yep. It runs. Well, that stops them right there. Okay? Right. And if they say
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They did they did bring that up last night, but I told them, they did bring that up about licenses and permits and all of that stuff, including, the Social Security number. And I basically just told them that, look, I think you guys should get on Roger's show because, I this doesn't resonate with me. If you're still a fourteenth Amendment citizen, you're not free. I said you're a debt slave, and, and you're contributing to them. I said, as a national, I said, you get all of your unalienable rights back that way. Right now, all you guys only have is you can say you're not a fourteenth Amendment citizen, but you didn't rebut the presumption. And I said until you rebut the presumption that they put you in voluntary servitude, you're still there. I said please get on Roger's show tomorrow. We have all done this with a simple one page affidavit. I said it's right and I showed them on the on the FCC site where the everything was on the matrixdocs.com, and then I showed them all the resource center.
And that's all I could do, but I said, please somebody come on tomorrow, and I guess they'll be here.
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Well, you know, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think. And, folks, I'm telling you, this is so frustrating. They're just people you cannot get to. And don't beat yourself up about it because it's their problem, not yours. All you're responsible to do is tell them. You're right. And if you pursue that and you keep pursuing that, you're gonna lose, especially with your friends. You're gonna find out a lot of people you thought were friends were only acquaintances. Okay. Paul and Gary both, and I don't know which one to recognize. Gary, I'm gonna recognize you since you're in a good cell. Go ahead.
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You know, I taught classes up here about becoming a national for almost three years. And at the onset, I had very few people, then it grew to more than a hundred people that's converted to a national in the state of Montana. I honestly believe when this started going that we would get a thousand just like on this radio show, but it doesn't work that way. Uh-uh. It does not. So, Julie, just keep your spirits up. Keep trying. You'll get there. You'll get peep some people. And Roger's right. The ones that this resonates with, it will. But not
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all. Not all I have shot. The ones that it resonates with, you won't be able to keep them away. Not beg them to come, you won't be able to keep them away. Okay? That's my opinion. I've got students I have Rudy, hold on. Let Gary let Gary let Gary finish. I'll address you. Go ahead, Gary. Finish up.
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I've got people that have come to me since I've stopped doing classes on Monday night because of my health situation that are begging me to do classes again. So it resonates with the people that it's supposed to. Yep. It's just that simple.
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So, you know, it's what's the old what's the old saying? You dance with the girl that brung you? Julie, now what were you gonna add?
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I was just gonna say that when you said you keep people away, I am I am I am, your perfect example of that. I remember when I had to I just completely sent you a million emails saying I need a consult, I need a a consult, I need a consult, and I because I didn't know what to do. And then I couldn't figure out how to get on these phone calls. But once I figured out how to get on the phone calls, it's like I I work my schedule around your calls every day. I I work late at night or I get up extra early in the morning to do the work, and I tell people, sorry. I have an appointment, and I won't be back until after one. Yep. I just Well you know, I have to be on these calls. I have to learn. I have to keep learning, and I have to keep embedding this in my brain.
And there's no better place to do it than here.
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It's a it's a positive obsession. And and people that, like Julie, just playing it right here, and I'll bet a whole bunch of you in the audience are the same way, you get obsessed with this information. Okay? And it just drives you. And it's been doing that with me for thirty something years. Okay? And I know it works that way because I know it worked like that on me. And listen, boy, in the old days, you couldn't get anybody to listen to you, and they called you really ugly names. Okay? But here we are. It's come full circle. This national thing or this freedom thing is starting to pop up all over the country.
Our audience has grown. The, people looking for this type of information, and we don't know if all those people from all over the world that are checking in with Dave and Kaye and Paul and the website, and both you are reporting thousands of of, increase in in in people that are coming by to kick tires, I guess. So don't know whether you're listening out there. Don't know whether you're paying attention to the archives. I don't know any of that. What I know is I will do my dead level best to be here six days a week so that when you do decide to cross over the fence and and whatever gets the best of you and you're gonna go ahead and open the mic and start asking questions and introduce yourself, we're gonna be here for you. K?
May I? That's what I yeah. Yes, ma'am. Is that Linda?
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No. It's Nancy.
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Nancy. Hey, Nancy. Oh, I'm sorry. You kinda sounded like Linda. Hey, Nance.
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Hey. I just wanted to, piggyback, so to speak, on what, Julie was saying. I I there's in Virginia, there's a Virginia juror jural assembly, and then there's other groups. You know, there's always other groups. And what's interesting about this group for me is looking at their information. I mean, they focus on this guy named KL, mister beneficiary. And looking at and his information is on YouTube. And, actually, a lot of his information actually, the source material that he cites is basically a lot of the same stuff that you do. However however and he calls it a union state citizen. But he does make the case between the federal, and the fourteenth amendment citizen and the and the state citizen.
But what I've because of my training with you over the last three years, some of his assertions I recognize is not true, about citizenship and and specifically, and birthright citizenship. But his focus is a lot about trust law, and, I'm still learning. What I'm what I'm using this as what I noticed, just, you know, when I'm evaluating the information, I'm going, well, what what's the what's the source material that they're referencing? And I noticed that so far that the stuff about state citizenship and federal citizenship is very similar, but the stuff around trust law, which is not what you focus on.
No. And I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying, what I'm noticing that there he doesn't have any source references. So that way, in terms of vetting information and questioning information, that's how I'm also just approaching it. And, also, networking with people locally. Whether we will agree, I'm not gonna try to make my push my I'll share my point of view, and my success. And people who are really invested in their process, it's, you know, like you've you have found. They're just very invested in their process, and they don't necessarily want to hear something that counters what they've accepted as truth. So, you know, this is all but, you know, I'm I'm approaching it, and there's another group down in Virginia Beach or someone who is, I think, a part of the journal Virginia Journal Assembly because I included the e I was received the email about another this other lady who is teaching and that she charges for it. Right? And there's a nondisclosure agreement.
But it's using scripture, how to defend yourself in in court and make things go away. So it's like, okay. That's I I look, okay. What's the red what's the red flag here? Oh, nondisclosure agreement, and she charges. Okay. So Yeah. It my question would be to anyone is, okay. What is the evidence? It's a nice story. It's a nice story. And, also, this KL guy goes into the the you're born and the afterbirth is identified as a separate entity and decedent, and that's the the basis for the straw man. Right. You know? So okay. But he and he touches on he does not directly touch on the feudal system, but he kinda does. He doesn't name it. And he and, like, with the citizenship stuff, he says that the state citizens there was birthright citizenship with the state citizen. And I go, nope.
Inside, I go, nope. That's not true. That's not true. And that's the the freed slaves were not born here, so they needed, you know, that's the fourteenth amendment. So no. Most of the people who were freed, black slaves, by the time of the fourteenth amendment had been born, severed, they were born here. So there's just, you know, in terms of evaluating information and narratives, you have to I ask myself, okay. What this is the assertion. This is the narrative. Sounds lovely. If it's, you know, but what is the evidence that that is true? And so I I feel very solid on the information that I've learned from you because I can prove it. I can prove it.
You can And I don't have to guess believe it.
[00:35:48] Unknown:
Those kind of guys, those folks didn't go through John they didn't have John Benson as a law teacher. So they don't know this old law. So you could ask them all persons born or naturalized. What's the legal definition behind the word person? Well, they're not gonna know. So how can you interpret the fourteenth amendment if you don't understand that law that's behind that one word person? If you go to Black's Law Dictionary and look up person, one of the things they say is this term is important because it's mentioned in the fourteenth amendment. But they don't know what it means. They don't know what the consequences are. They don't understand that that means which body of law are you under. So when it says all persons, it means all persons that are born under the assumption that they're under the fourteenth amendment.
So and that's why it says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And and. It doesn't say our. Our subject, it says and subject. So if there's somebody that's and subject, there's gotta be somebody, a group of people that are and not subject. But these people don't understand that. I'm not being critical of them. They just hadn't had the advantages we've had to be able to understand what that really says. And if you don't understand that old law, which most of our people don't because they don't teach it in law schools for the most part anymore, then you don't you you're you're urinating right up a rope.
[00:37:14] Unknown:
K. Yeah. Well, and and actually yeah. I agree. I agree. And I I'm just I'm I'm noting what So this valid information alongside invalid information.
[00:37:25] Unknown:
Con the you know, gratitude is a really important thing, and we don't exercise it enough, a virtue. Just be grateful that like I am, that I crossed paths with them so many years ago. In the six months that they were teaching, I was one of those 1,200 people that caught them at that point, and I am so grateful to the good lord for crossing my paths with them back then. And all of you should be too. And the fact that when I decided to leave to Argentina so here's the thing that I questioned so much. I'd spent fifteen years looking for the answer. I find it when I make a decision because a little voice came to me twice and said, you need to get out. So finally, I paid attention. I went and got a passport application and there at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years. Okay? Now was God telling me to get out of the country to get out of the country so I could teach this? Or was he telling me to get out of the country so I'd have to have a passport and find the answer in the passport application?
Well, that's one thing that I toy with a lot, okay, in my mind. But the this has all got some kind of divine plan, folks, and I don't know why I was chosen. I'm the most unlikely of suspects to do this. But for some reason, the good lord patterned my whole life so I could do this today. The t ten years of teaching, all the radio experience, all the different just all of my whole life has been groomed as I look back so I can do this right here as effectively as I can do it. And that's what's partially been frustrating for me is over the years, it, initially wasn't effective to to my vision. I understand it's a slow deal.
But even I had an email from an old friend in Atlanta as a female, and, she's she was I was doing this with her before I ever even got on the radio. Okay? And so with it. And through a a a neighbor who knew her through a a a girlfriend. And so she would call me, and I would have spent hours on the phone with Debbie. And she just couldn't get it. And I I I spent hours and hours and hours with her. Well, now she finally got it, went through it and all that, but she's going, wow. It looks like the radio group's really growing and all this stuff. And, you know, I think back to couple of months ago and Jeff Rents in one of his, emails to me says, you've got a really big audience out there.
Well, we don't necessarily feel that because we don't have the numbers here with us. But it's these people that have gone been exposed. They come to the show. They hang around for a bit and get their arms around it, and then they go off with this information and start in their own direction that they wanna go. Well, I can't tell them to keep coming around here. They're putting their time to other uses, and I understand that. But over the years, I think we've planted a hell of a lot of seeds out there. And one of these days, they're gonna come to fruition.
They're gonna come to fruition in some way, shape, or form, and we're gonna expose these son of a bitch and slaving pieces of Jew crap, for what they are and what they've done, and and then they're gonna be in in in some kind of anguish. Okay. I had two two there's a guy and a girl. The guy was first born. It's Nancy. Yes. Go on. Okay. Nancy, go ahead.
[00:41:00] Unknown:
I just want to finish actually what I wanted to share. I mean, so I'm using this as an opportunity to also, evaluate my own critical thinking and vetting of information. But one of the things that I've heard on the on your show, like, the guy was it was it William? The guy who had the the car, their unregistered car in his he just moved in there. But anyway, he he was really big on this, you know, I'm a national, but he didn't really get that. He signed a contract, you know, and he was obligated to fulfill that. Right. So my question around contract. So some people assert people who make the straw focus on the straw man thing and the natural living person, that they assert that the this commercial environment, you can cannot environment in interact with a natural living person. And I'm thinking, that sounds crazy. Right. But I know that I don't know everything. I don't know everything. But even as so as a, even as a serve, they're contracting.
So this argument that you're as a natural person that you have to use this ends, just this artificial legal construct, the strawman or whatever you wanna call it, as the intermediary with this commercial law. I mean, can you speak to that? I think it sounds like a load of crap. Crap. Well, I I I see that straw man, and that's I I love Mark.
[00:42:26] Unknown:
And that's, of course, his deal. Straw man, our caps, all caps. And, that's just nothing but see, they don't understand that they're serfs and what's going on, so they call it a straw man. You're either you know, back to the thing a minute ago, there's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Okay. Servitude, that's the English variety of of slavery. That's what it's called in the law books, the Lee the English variety of slavery. What really matters in there here's another thing they don't understand, property.
I'll bet you they don't understand that property is a right, not a thing because that's a colloquial way that we all look at the word property. But, technically, it's a right, not a thing. Nancy owns her car, and and the car is a thing. And and so she has the right in into the thing. Well, that's something they don't understand and comprehend. It's a slight difference, but it's really important because they look at themselves in the mirror and go, I can't be property. I mean, I don't know if they're asking themselves directly, but they don't see that because they don't understand again this legal definition that they've got a property right in you. And it doesn't necessarily mean you've got to go into the back 40 and pick cotton.
Okay? You can have the life just like you've had and all the rest of things we do and this, that, and the other. It's just that they've got a property right on you. Think about this, Nancy. And this is interesting. This is the dialectic within the dialectic. There's only two, free or you're a slave. Well, now to be free, you've got to be 100% free, don't you?
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I
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would imagine. If you're point one zero zero zero one in servitude, then you're a serf. It the percentage of the servitude doesn't matter. It matters that they've got a property right in you. Now on the other hand, on the other side, on the slave side, you've got to be 100% you've got to you know, there's a dialectic there. I'm getting screwed up. Okay. Go ahead, Paul.
[00:44:36] Unknown:
Okay. The only thing they did was they figured out a way to not have to hack off part of the plantation Sure. To house the slaves. They had them. They had to build them buildings, or they let them build buildings their own. They had to provide land. They had to provide a means for them, some sustenance in exchange for their servitude for working in the fields. The only thing they did was they figured out a way not to have to house us, but still enslave us. They're doing it through sales tax, income tax, inheritance tax, excise tax.
Yes. They're doing it. Right.
[00:45:21] Unknown:
You're paying the cost of your own slavery. They don't have to. How are they how they keep you in control? The administrative state and regulations.
[00:45:31] Unknown:
Fear. That's how they keep you in control. Yeah. And those two things. And and I'm completely on board. Right there. I'm completely on board with Gary. Uh-huh. Gary's Gary was, saying that there's there's a lot of groups out there that he believes are disinformation, and I completely agree with him. I believe that, like, the rifle associations and the second amendment associations, they are just cash cows. They are ways for people to make money, and they are a massive accumulation of a database of all of the patriotic and second amendment minded people in the country. For sure. The expatriation groups, oh, man.
They are also harvesting the names of people that are unhappy with servitude and and citizenship in The United States. And they're also promoting the fact that if you expatriate the IRS and the Social Security Administration, they ain't gonna have to give you back a damn dime that you paid so far in your entire life because you are gonna lose all connections to your homeland. You will be a man without a country.
[00:46:40] Unknown:
I I I don't know if that's correct. If you lose Social Security and stuff, you may. I don't know. I don't know the whole ins and outs of the expatriation process. Now there was somebody that just said something right there, and I think Mark was grunting over there in the background a minute ago. And so I wanna welcome you, Mark. Always been with you. I've been in this queue now for about ten minutes getting overrated. Well, I hadn't heard you I hadn't heard you say anything, Samuel, but come on forward and say what you need to.
[00:47:13] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. You know, I I wonder if these people you know, I've been around this stuff for over fifty years, and these people who say they're a journal society, I wonder if they even know what journal means because, there's a lot of good ones out there, but, you know, it really comes back down to rights and obligations as you teach Roger. Right? If you're a fourteenth amendment citizen, you got a whole bunch of different, obligations than you do if you're a state citizen. And these people, I believe, don't even know that JURO means the law and what law they're under.
And, you know, there you go. That that's the crux of the problem. They think they can be that serf, like you say, and tell the master that, he's wrong, well, they're gonna have a problem. The courts are gonna come down on them like a ton of bricks. I yield.
[00:48:17] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah. I I have one I I was gonna say one thing on that too. A lot of these groups where, where the governments come down on them, lock them up, and all this happy stuff, what they did was they tried to organize a, rebellion, as it were, against, the government or any one portion thereof. So the government, looked at them as an organized coup of sorts and insurrectionists and rebellious and sovereign citizens and all that happy hoo Okay? The only way to do this, the only way to get your freedom back is to go back to the creator, go back to God, and go back to your natural rights as an individual, as a person who is responsible for your own life, your own liberty, and your own pursuit of happiness. To hell with them trying to grant it or protect it because they're not going to.
They're going to port you in the corner as a fourteenth amendment citizen, and you are a slurf. I own you. Shut up.
[00:49:22] Unknown:
Go lay down by your face. Me a perfect you want me to give you a perfect example? And this was right out in front of by the way, I wanna talk about Barnes in a minute. It's right on one of his shows. He's announced it twice in all these, legal, affairs that he's in, the battle over Infowars, and he they tried to steal his name. They tried to say they got ownership of his name, and he went back to the thirteenth amendment involuntary servitude. And the Bad Guys Law Firm said you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Right.
[00:49:59] Unknown:
Now I wanna tell you, Barnes said last night, by by the way, you should plug him for a second on this. Yesterday, on Memorial Day, Barnes was on, the Duran. Do you know who the Duran is, Paul?
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No.
[00:50:14] Unknown:
Refresh my name. Couple of guys. One of them is English, and the other is Greek, and they have, they have a geopolitical program where they have guests on and discuss all these geopolitical events. They're highly respected, highly listened to, including JD Vance, I learned lastly, and Tulsi Gabbard. Some of those folks are avid listeners. You can go there on Bitshoot, and they're on Rumble. The Duran, d u r a n. They're friends with Barnes. He was on there for over two hours yesterday, and, boy, you wanna talk about Showcase and Barnes. I wanna thank Steven for sending me that link yesterday because I knew he was gonna be on there, but I'd forgotten it. And I still haven't gotten through the whole show, but it is a wonderful you wanna find out you think Robert Barnes doesn't understand this stuff? Boy, you go listen to that.
I mean, he is he is it's one of the showcaseiest Robert Barnes shows I've I've seen with him on there. It's fantastic. Okay? And, so, anyway, I just wanted to plug that so folks go listen to it because it's worth listening to. Who who, else was on there wanting to say something? I'm getting tripping over myself here. There was a guy. Is that Samuel? Who else is trying to say something back there a minute ago? Nobody? Or I think we got everyone. Oh, Mark. There's Mark. There's Mark. We forget Mark. Hey, buddy.
[00:51:45] Unknown:
Well, Mark is a straw man, and I and you you called straw man three times. So Yeah. You know, he was all excited about. He was all excited about hearing that more of that patriot mythology about your your, after birth. And, you know, I just wonder when they when they get that after birth that comes out after your baby's born, I mean,
[00:52:07] Unknown:
the placenta? I mean, does it got a gold fringe flag around it? And I don't know. The greatest insult is selling my straw man to a damn makeup company so they can make blush with it.
[00:52:22] Unknown:
Well, I'll tell you one thing that, really got me is, like, one of the latest things. They were trying to stretch that when you're born, you're coming through a birth canal. Oh, yeah. Right? Birth is like a ship's birth and and then. E R T. Right, right. And then and then it's a dock tour. It's a dock. So, see we're at obviously under Admiralty Law here. Because of of the birth canal and a dot tour.
[00:52:56] Unknown:
Marcy. Years ago, there was a guy in Arizona. Oh, I don't know who he was following, but it was that crap right there. And a deputy sheriff came to his house for some reason, and he went out to the gate to meet him. And they got into a discussion, and he was putting all that crap out. And the deputy end up shoot shooting him and killing him. He was a nice guy. K? But please, please, folks, if you've been into that, do the best you can to wipe all that crap out of your mind. And I quote Mark Twain, it ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so.
[00:53:36] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. That's very true. I, I feel so blessed to have come across your information, and, it's just it's it's life changing. You know, it really is. It is. And it's just But people are are in that, what'd you say, catatonic state. You know, that's one reason why why, Alex Jones says he he goes over the top. You know, if if you heard somebody say this and I thought, oh, that's so true. He sounds like a pro wrestler. You know, it's like way over the top. And somebody called him out on it, and he said, well, it's to wake up these people.
[00:54:22] Unknown:
They're walking around in a trance, and they don't even know it. You know? I don't know that you can't wake them up. And they ain't listening to Alex Jones. Well, you know? I got news for him.
[00:54:33] Unknown:
Well, look. Look. You got well, how what was it? Only about 3%, the people supported the revolutionary war? Three percent. And what's the saying that, you know, once once the, the revolutionaries were winning, then the other people supported them because they had nothing to lose. Yeah. That's that great. See, people are afraid of losing their stuff. Yep. So they they they will comply if they're under the threat of losing their stuff. And one thing I wanna bring up, Roger, talking about this Jural Society. Most people don't know that
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excuse me.
[00:55:15] Unknown:
When this is not new. Back, around the Murrah bombing, even prior to the Murrah bombing, there were these journal societies popping up all across the country. And not too long after the Murrah bombing won, all the the state militia groups just, like, disappeared. Bear with me just a sec. So the state militias, for the most part, just disappeared. They were not, you know, visible anymore. I I think a few of them just went underground. The big one was the Montana, the Montana militia up there. They called them or maybe it's Michigan. Excuse me. Michigan. Michigan. They were called mom. Yeah. So, and then around that time, there was, you know and and Dan Meador was talking about this too about setting up these special grand juries of citizens because, you know, you they weren't getting remedy.
And it went too long around that time period that almost every state passed laws from that type of activity. You you one of them, you couldn't put a lien on a on a public officer, which a lot of these people are promoting. Well, we'll just put liens on. Well, it screwed up their credit, and, next thing you know, you're you're you're facing jail time. So in the grand juries, like you said, where do you get that authority? That's so extremely important. If you don't know where what's giving you that authority, you need to put the brakes on and figure it out because you need to be able to support whatever you're attempting to do.
[00:57:06] Unknown:
Well, unfortunately, if you ask them that question, they'll point to the constitution that they don't have access to. Unbeknownst to them.
[00:57:15] Unknown:
Right. Right. So, anyway, just want to throw my 2¢ in there for these people. If you run across somebody who's trying to form a journal society, more than likely, they're violating their state's law. Mhmm. Because I know in Oklahoma, they tried that. Yeah. That's that was it. Common law grand juries, they were trying to set those up, and, at least Oklahoma and I think several other states, if not all of them, have passed laws against that.
[00:57:48] Unknown:
Well, you can go back and ask the question what what citizen's grand jury has ever accomplished anything? To my knowledge, none of them. Okay. Now let me bring the opposite story in here. Years ago, there was a guy up in North Carolina named John Ainsworth. Do you are you familiar with this, Mark? Have you heard ever heard us talk about this?
[00:58:10] Unknown:
John Ainsworth That name sounds familiar, but I don't recall what the situation was.
[00:58:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he set up the old North Carolina state. North Carolina state, not the state of North Carolina. And they had a formal government. They he was secretary of state. They held elections. They did appointed officers and all that stuff, and they went for years. And they never had any repercussions or backlashes. Now he finally something happened. He inherited some property up in Maine and left North Carolina and went to Maine. But for a number of years, that was operable, and there's some other folks that have tried that. Michigan's tried it. Colorado tried it, over the years, but the Ainsworth was the one that took it further than anybody else that I know of. K? So there is a legitimate. And by going back to the old state, you must have established your political status there by joining it.
K? So maybe there's another way to get out of it. I don't know. But the I can tell you this, to to my knowledge, we have never had a case in fourteen years where we were unsuccessful, in a in, submitting this paperwork to the head knocker. Now, Paul, you're gonna have to come out and tell our composited folks bye bye here.
[00:59:33] Unknown:
Yes. One zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago. Thank you so much for joining us for the first hour. By all means, go to the matrixdocs.com. Click on the link for Global Voice Radio, Eurofolk Radio, or free conference call. Join us live on the show. Thank you so much for joining us. If we don't see you back after the top of the hour, have a great day, and we'll catch you right back here tomorrow on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
[01:00:01] Unknown:
Bye now. So if Julie and others wanna breach these kind of groups and organizations and try and get your foot in the door, that's great. But, you know, you need to do it trying to be noncombative, and most of them are gonna be try and be combative with you, I think. I long since quit trying it. You know? I I would suggest you do it in one of the couple ways, either presenting the equivocation to them, Julie. You could have said to them, well, each of you need to ask yourself this question. Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? So you leave that right in their lap. Okay? Or you come back, like I said, there's only let's get some common ground. We agree on things. There's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave.
Is that right? Now you get agreement with that. It's important to get agreement. Is that right? Yes. Okay. Well, which one are you? Well, now they've got the hot potato right in their lap, don't they? Well, if they say I'm related to Lee Greenwood, and I'm free, and and I sing my song at every sporting event, then you you come up and go, okay. Well, if you're so free, what can you do without a license or permit or permission? Well, that puts it square in their lap. If they say, okay. I know I'm a slave. Would you like me to show you how you've become how you've enslaved yourself and how you can easily get out of it. Well, there's and, again, these are just dialectical choices.
It's very simple, but you put the onus right in their lap because they don't understand that there's two different statuses. They think there's only one. So that's my suggestion. You can go do that if you want. It's kind of fun. Did you have fun doing that, Julie? Exercising your knowledge a little bit?
[01:02:01] Unknown:
No, Julie ran No. It wasn't fun. No. It wasn't fun. I didn't really exercise, much of my authority on that call because I didn't wanna upset anybody and I was hadn't been on for a long time. I just was rather demure on the phone, but I did challenge them a little bit in the nicest way I could and they basically are saying that, you know, they don't even want to have allegiance to states, and all of that stuff. So I like I said, I invited everybody on today to hear our comments and our opinions and views on why what they're doing won't work, and I don't think anybody showed up. So I guess that just tells me something. They don't You know, it's interesting. There's somebody out there that John knows on the West Coast, and and and he was asking John's asking about
[01:02:51] Unknown:
confronting him with my stuff, and they go, oh, yeah. Roger Sales is right, but he doesn't go far enough. Excuse me? Yeah. Well What do you I like what Mark had to say? In the go ahead.
[01:03:02] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I like what Mark had to say. I mean, what this isn't square Henry ever accomplished anything. And also, you know, I haven't looked into this, but he's probably right It's against state law. And these people are setting them up as private membership associations, some of them are, and others have said they've spoken to the FBI and the military. Well, honestly, I don't trust either of those. And so, that doesn't bring me much confidence in joining any of these. But,
[01:03:29] Unknown:
you know Oh, okay. Who'd you speak to? Were you with a judge advocate with the military, with the FBI? Were you with the legal department? Because the FBI agents don't know this. Military people don't know this. I I didn't get into that. Okay. Well, see, that's a long time. That's no that's no credibility to me to make those statements. Yep. But anyway, we'll just keep trying. You you know, if you go on there again, you'll be better at it the next time. And just ask simple questions. Are you a citizen of The United States, or are you a citizen of The United States Of America, or do you think they're both the same? Maybe that's the better question.
But there's ways to approach this. You're not gonna get in any kind of fight. You can plant seeds and just let them noodle on it. Even Mark. Mark, when he was first presenting now Chuck Ward, our mutual friend, used to be a loyal listener here and participant, had been telling him about me for years. I'm not kidding you. Years. Finally, the situation came around where Mark went over there to RBN to listen to Ralph's whole slot, and there I was. But you still had to noodle on it for a couple of weeks, didn't you say, Mark?
[01:04:48] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It it, was, you know, I could kinda tell right up front, Roger, because he talked about the different court cases, which is my love language. Legal briefs and court cases that you're talking my love language. And when you you could back up what you're talking about and I was like, I think this guy's really on to something here because it just it clicked and it made perfect sense to me. And then it was when you hit the feudal system that that was, like, the last final piece of the puzzle for me that made perfect sense, and, the rest is history. I've I've been here ever since.
[01:05:32] Unknown:
Well and growing ever since. And, and you take things like Tom question for Julie. Oh, alright. Well, let's go. Who is it, Alan? Yeah. Alan, I had a question for Julie. Hi, Alan. Your email what's your email address?
[01:05:48] Unknown:
It's [email protected].
[01:05:54] Unknown:
Say it again slower.
[01:05:57] Unknown:
Beforb,grateful,grateful,four,f0r,life,lise,andand,smile,[email protected]. Sorry. It's long. We went over the See. Yesterday in the after show. That's why I'm laughing.
[01:06:20] Unknown:
Well, the the last hour of the after show was, eliminated because of the f bomb.
[01:06:28] Unknown:
Well, that was me that was me, but I paid I gave a contribute contribution to Paul for deleting that.
[01:06:37] Unknown:
Well, he didn't put he didn't put in the last dollar on on g on the, recording yet. Anyway Well, that wasn't that wasn't a contribution. It was a fine. Go ahead, Alan.
[01:06:52] Unknown:
Okay. It was it was a fine. I find I find myself for the f bomb.
[01:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to get the information out of the MSO. I'll I'll send you a text. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Tomorrow, I was gonna talk tomorrow, I was gonna talk about tomorrow, I was gonna talk about my court case. Okay. We don't know much about that, but I guess we'll find out. There's Jerry. Yes, sir.
[01:07:21] Unknown:
You know, it's pretty simple. The status of national is the only one you can find in statutes, code, or regulations. You don't find anything else about afterbirth, about, ships on a dock, anything. Birth canal. I've looked at all that stuff twenty years ago, and it's crap. They can't back it up. The only thing you can back up in this today's society is national. Plain and simple.
[01:07:56] Unknown:
Yep. I agree. Recognize it, or at least they have for fourteen years.
[01:08:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. I know. I'm probably one of the longest nationals in this call. You know?
[01:08:12] Unknown:
Could be.
[01:08:13] Unknown:
So
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I don't know. You know? All you can do is plant seeds with all these people, and don't don't go in there expecting great positive things like because that's expectations of other people. And, you know, if you go back, my father was AA. That's the main thing that makes reformed alcoholics or reforming alcoholics go back to drinking It's expectations that are unfulfilled that they have of other people. Don't have expectations of other people. Go in there realizing that they don't know this. They've never been exposed to the high end legal and information that we're talking about here. And if they don't understand that, they're not gonna understand the rest of it. You can't read that fourteenth amendment like you would normally and then go back and say there's eight legal landmines, nine legal landmines in this sentence.
They don't understand that. Okay? So it's, it's really challenging to find the right people. You just gotta put it in front of enough folks. That's all I know to tell you. Yes, Gary.
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And, Roger, I know I keep harping on this, but read the two pages of court cases where the Supreme Court ruled that US citizens are property, number one. They've ruled that US citizens have no rights access to the bill of rights. And they also a ruling in there says that they don't have they they're subject to the IRS if they can't prove that they're not US citizens. I mean, it's right there in black and white. And then the other thing you need to do is accompany that with the LIBOR code, the general orders 100. Just put them all together and you it'll everything will explain itself.
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Comments.
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Yeah. Hey, Joe. Good morning.
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Yes. The Supreme Court never has and never will rule. They express an opinion. They opine.
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Yeah. Well, that's all they can do.
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They don't rule, though.
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Yeah. They make no decision. Enforce it. Well, they can't enforce it.
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All they do is put forward an opinion. Yep. And we need to be thinking in those terms.
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Mark, you weren't on yesterday. We discussed this Supreme Court case. Did you listen to Barnes Sunday night? Part of it. I didn't I didn't make it the whole thing. You get you get through the, Supreme Court decision where Amy Conan Barrett recouzed herself?
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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They opined. They didn't decide. They opined. Okay.
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Well, she didn't do nothing but recuse herself. And
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Yeah. It's common language, Joe, and I know it's wrong, but most people refer to decisions, and they issue an opinion.
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And that's the reason that we are partly in that quandary because of.
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Well, words words create reality. There's a certain Words matter. True. Words matter. You know, I hate to sound like Rush Limbaugh, but words mean things. No. I shouldn't hate to sound like Rush Limbaugh. He was pretty darn successful. Thank you, Joe. Yeah. Mark, that was important because it was an Oklahoma derivative case.
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Yes. Yes. I followed that. One. Yeah. Very interested. Schools. Yes. We have charter schools where state funds are going to, pay towards, like, a a type of private school that's referred to as a charter school. And they this, some group in the state, I don't think it was the our education department. We got a pretty pro Christian, pro pro choice a voucher. He wants parents to have a voucher system where they can send their kids to whatever school they want. He's also putting the, fighting to try to get the Bible in every classroom as a historical document. Now all the liberals have just lost their minds over that. They went nuts. Anyway, his name is his name is Brian Walters, but I don't know if he approved it or tried to get it approved where the Catholic schools were coming in as charter schools.
And, they got blocked and so that went all the way up to the US Supreme Court. And Amy Coney Bryant, who is Catholic, recused herself. But she didn't come out and say why.
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Julie. She didn't say why she recused herself. Her once you go down to her house and ask her, will you tell her to straighten up right now?
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I'm gonna I'm gonna fly Mark up here and have Mark go talk to her. He's got the language.
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Tell her tell her you're from the sewer department. We're tired of her crap. Okay?
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What I'd really like to see is I'd like Congress to get off their butts and start impeaching these judges who are activists Hey. And they're not upholding the law. Yeah. Well They're they're coming out and making these ridiculous decisions that have nothing to do with law and everything to do with their political interest.
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Yes. And now we got APAC comes on the scene because that's how they're coming back and thwart and Trump's agenda is with their control over the house and the senate.
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Yep. Well, I think very nice
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I sent you that, but I forwarded that Duran, piece to Yeah. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Him. I'm sure you haven't. Boy, does he go off on Lindsey Graham on that? Evidently, there's a power circle in Charleston of and there's a lot of defense spending in South Carolina and that they're the ones that are getting him elected. So, Bruce, your your your state is corrupt down in Charleston. Yes, Joe.
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Did you ever stop to think what it may be like if Donald Trump decided that maybe the Supreme Court did not decide anything, that all they did was issue an opinion?
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Well, that's coming.
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That's coming, Joe. You know, like a freight train. So why don't why don't we use opinion instead of decision? Because that changes the whole paradigm.
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Well It's true. They they're trying to exercise power they don't have. And and they're gonna confront Trump, and Trump's gonna go, alright. Just like Andrew Jackson did, the picture he has in his office, by the way. Okay. That's your decision. Let him enforce it.
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Yeah. They they have no enforcement. It's all it's all whether you're going to to honor their opinion or not. If you're gonna go by their opinion, And it seems like that's pretty when you get to that level, like like Roger said, how are you gonna enforce it? Because they don't have an enforcement branch from the US Supreme Court.
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Nope. Just like this Murray guy up in Massachusetts. You hear about that, Mark, last week? They they had a flight of seven or eight. Well, they're first degree murders and and and the whole thing. And they were taking them back to Somalia, I think, which is down in Africa. They got marshals. They got them out of the country, and then this judge, Murray, rules they've got to bring them back. But in the interim, they gotta give them, like, ten thirty days of of of of of place to stay and food, and they gotta interrogate them and all this stuff. And there's other, US Officials on take get taking them back down there. And, evidently, what I did hear was that Murray did this decision without knowing the, crimes they committed.
So we'll probably hear more about that this week. But a one Right. District court judge in one part of Massachusetts, you know, northern, southern, eastern, western, whatever, can do an injunction on the whole country. Now there's a bunch of supreme court decisions about to come out. This is when they release all these opinions, like Joe says. They're gonna release all these opinions on all these cases they've heard because then they go on summer recess, and they don't reconvene until October. First week in October is when the Supreme Court will reconvene. So in the next couple of weeks, we're likely to see a whole bunch, the birthright citizenship decision, the, injunctions impacting the national, the the whole country decision and all these things. We're gonna see them in the next couple of weeks. So we it might be fertile discussion ground here from that aspect.
But that's coming. Okay? And, we'll see if Trump is gonna honor them, what they are first, if he's gonna honor them, or if he's gonna say enforce it. Enforce it while you're off on vacation, especially.
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I was I think I heard somebody say that that Trump administration was under, like, 200 different lawsuits throughout the country. Yeah. You know, so and and these little federal district courts, they're shopping for these venues too. So, you know, they they as as Barnes pointed out, they just happen to get the the activist judge that they wanted, you know, this Murray guy. And it's just it's sickening, and I'm hoping the opinion from the US Supreme Court, really shoots them down from making little district courts making decisions that affect the entire nation.
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Well, Biden I just don't see how they can get away with that. Biden didn't honor the Supreme Court. He wanted to give all those student loan, get out of jail free card. And the Supreme Court said no, and they came back and did it anyway, did it again.
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So Yeah. Not not unusual, but it it you I wanna hear what they gotta say, but when you're a bunch of wackos putting out this garbage and Amy Conan Barrett, what a disappointment that woman is. And, unfortunately, we're stuck with her for decades.
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Well, not unless somebody wants to impeach them like that Ketanji Brown. That lady is just comes right out and and says she's an activist for the most part. Her actions, I should say. Her actions and her opinions clearly don't show that she supports the law. It's it's all about, you know, quote, fairness and, you know, what her political agenda is. Unfortunately, the way they got everybody controlled in Washington DC, you know, it's it's just it's the swamp. And and there are almost every one of them are controller. They wouldn't be in office. Yep. Come out of the sink in for a little bit.
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We can remove ourselves from all their crap. Yep. Let it sink in. Anybody in the audience out there? Excuse me. Martin, you got you wanna finish up?
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I'm just saying that, you know, it's hard not to follow it because I've followed it for all my life. Yeah. But as a national, it doesn't, for the most part, directly affect me. That's the main thing to remember. Keep in mind that all these federal laws and regulations, you know, they're they're for the for the most part don't involve you. They don't, you know, they they don't apply to you. So you hear, You know, it's it's nice to keep an eye on it, but we don't have to, like, super dwell on it because, again, it it, you know, it doesn't apply to us, but it's interesting to see how it applies to those fourteenth amendment citizens.
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How you barn Barnes on Sunday night, one of the things that came down last week, I didn't hear about it except on his show, Did an executive order. There's no more criminal charges that can be brought because of a Yes. Regulation? Regulation. Okay. Now here's our question. What about failure to file?
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I would say the same thing. It's a regulation.
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So, and there's the teeth. You see, this is what Trump is doing to him. He's taking their teeth out by things like this. No more criminal charges for regulation that isn't obeyed. Okay? Well, that's their teeth. Alright? Everything has to go through the administrative state because they've set this up or you're all gonna be slaves and nobody would have found the little loophole we found to get out of the pen. Okay? And so these regulations apply to everybody, especially ones with general applicability. And, we don't have to follow that anymore. That's what we do. We get ourselves out of all of their applications.
The only way they can enforce that is administratively. If they sign the the so we're still on the underlying treaty with the WHO. I know Trump pulled us out of it, but he hadn't pulled us out of the basic treaty that got us in there is my understanding. Okay? Well, if they tried to enforce that, the only way they can enforce it is administratively. We don't have any contact with the administrative agencies. We free ourselves from that. And that's the way they do everything because they figured nobody would ever figure their scam out and be able to get out of it. And we have, and we're out of it. And they recognize it for fifteen years.
So that may not mean anything to you, but it sure speaks loudly from a federal government. And see, here's their deal. They're so hypersensitive of somebody. I think that they understand how tenuous their hold is here, Mark. And that so over the years, anybody that stands up, they're gonna try and knock you down as quick as possible because they don't want that spreading because they're very, very aware of their tenuous hold. Okay? Well Right. We we've gotten around that. And so for fourteen years, that's their MO. If somebody pops up, they knock them down so that it doesn't grow. Well, they hadn't done shit to us for fourteen years. What does that tell you?
It's just like you go back to John and Glenn. Thirty something years ago, they came in after they'd been teaching less than six months and raided all three of their offices. The IRS doesn't act that fast anything, much less thirty three years ago. So that told us at the time they're onto something here. It was a great motivator and instigator for us to look further. And here we are. Thank thank the Lord for me. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but those other 1,200 people, the other 1,199, nobody did anything with it. They all dropped off to the side because they were there for the tax reason.
I didn't have a tax problem. I was there for as a truth seeker. I think that's the reason I continue right there. Roger. K. So for whatever, thank you lucky stars, is that somebody faintly saying Roger? Yeah. It's it's a sketch,
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Steven.
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Okay. Sketch where you guys talk if you can get us in a better position, we can hear you. Can you hear can can you hear me now? Better. Yes.
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Okay. I wanted to comment on Barnes, a couple things. He one of the interesting points he made with the Durand was that, you know, the British, majesty courts were basically spokesman for the king. Yes. That was an interesting one. Administrators for the yes. And and and he compared our courts that they were set up not to do that and that they have become a part of the deep state and administrative, system. And I just thought that was great great point that he made. Also, his historical his historical perspective and, he's very well read, and he he formed his he formed his opinions, like, right out of the bat, and it's amazing his recall when in that in that, conversation they had.
And the other thing I wanted to mention was his well, you mentioned, administrative state, that when he did the, deportation of the the worst of the worst, and he kinda set up the courts, you know, saying, oh, you're gonna defend these guys? And he used that as a political tool
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to change the view of the populace. I thought that was interesting. Mhmm. Well, they've gone so far wacko that you can literally set them up like bowling pins on every one of these issues. Oh, you're gonna defend trans people raping girls in lab bathrooms. Well, that's interesting. What's your defense for that? That was quite interesting. And basically for the audience, he said that, Alexander who's, there there's two guys there. One of them had been involved in the court systems in England and in France. And they brought the point up that when that king's bench if you're sitting in the king's bench and you're in front of one of those judges, that judge is the king because he represents the king. Okay? So it's interesting that that I wrote Mark. I said barn showcased.
I don't know that I've ever seen him put in a position where he can roll like that. And your his recall is phenomenal to me. And his knowledge and insight on all these things is phenomenal. He'll bring up some things. What was he brought up last night? One of the background. Oh, I can tell you. The background on the Derek Chauvin case. Isn't that right? Isn't that his name? That was good. The cop? Yep. Yeah. That was really good. You heard that, Mark?
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Yes. I did. That was mind blowing.
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And and so here's all and I would have been with him if I wouldn't have been privy to this information. He went, let it loose the other night. I thought Griffin was, you know, really kind of railroaded. Right? Well, turns out there's two cases. There's a state case and a federal case. He pled guilty to the federal case, so he never went to trial. And he's in a federal prison, not a state prison. Isn't that right? Well, it must be in the well, I I don't know because he was stabbed I don't know what. One time I don't know. Prison. Can I comment on that, Roger? I I guess you can, Dave. You wanna go ahead? He's in a federal prison,
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and he pleaded guilty because he'd been stabbed 11 times in the state prison. They were trying to murder him. So he pled guilty to the federal charges so he could get the hell out of the state so they he was safer.
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Right. And if if if Trump pardons him, Trump can only pardon the federal charge. That would automatically throw him back into state prison where they're gonna kill him probably. But his background his background is for eight he's got 18 complaints, civil rights complaints for basically beating the hell out of people from 14 to 46 or something. He has got a really, really bad background that nobody knows about. Hold on, Dave. Let me finish. We'll have a dialogue here. Okay. He's got all this baggage in his background that nobody knows about because he plead guilty. It never came out in trial. Now, Dave Now me? Okay. Yes.
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You know, the Boston the Boston Marathon, he was one of the players in that situation.
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Okay? Did Chauvin? He was
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yes. Chauvin was one of the guys working for the the contractors with the backpacks and all that crap. He was a player in that. And I'm telling you, this guy has been working for the feds, for the deep state for a long, long time.
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Well, it just he goes into the background.
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That Floyd that Floyd deal, Floyd didn't die. He didn't beat up Floyd. That was a dummy that that that they he had his his knee on his back. That was all, a dummy. That they couldn't even get him out of the car. The you know, they got all the video of that.
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That was proper police procedure they'd been taught to to do to treat him like. Right. But but it really wasn't even that dude. That dude was like,
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that Floyd dude I don't know. Guys worked together in a club. I supposedly, they did. Bouncer. Floyd was the bouncer, and Chauvin was the security guard at that club.
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And they knew each other well. Evidently, he was a lot more than the security guard. He was involved in all this nefarious other stuff. Okay? Yeah. I just brought it up to try and go in. I don't wanna rehash all the background, but I would have thought the guy of initially, my feelings were, yeah, let's pardon him. But, boy, after Barnes got finished with that, I hell well, no. You know? Anyway, just an illustration of a lot of stuff. Those two barns, Saturday night and especially the Duran yesterday, which I still haven't finished, are worth listening to. Yeah. Boy, Barnes is just such a specimen. And who does he keep coming back to on all of these issues? Alex Jones.
Why weren't who are Patel and whoever the other guy is? Bongino. Dan Bongino. Why have Bongino. They ever on Alex Jones? Yeah. Bongino. Why weren't they ever on Alex Jones? And he keeps coming back. Do you know how much of the audience of The US Jones has? I didn't know this till last night. It's huge. 10%. Alex Jones has got 10% of the audience in The US. That is mammoth, folks. For one little guy that started in public broadcasting and has built that whole thing, that's quite no matter what you think, Alex, boy, that is that's not something that's easy to do, especially with him after him all these years.
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I wonder if he got the Streisand effect from them suing him at Sandy Hook to shut him down. You know, now now it's all it's all across the nation about how they're trying to shut this guy down and take away his company and even wanna take away his name. Yeah. And, I think a lot of people are like, well, what's that all about? You know? And they probably started tuning in.
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I mean, don't forget, they tried to up the fine in Connecticut to more a $1,750,000,000,000 fine? More than the GDP of frigging India?
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Wow.
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Okay. They're desperate. He's really hurting them, man. It is. And, we'll see. He's got a big court, thing next week, I think, in Houston, and they're gonna expose all of the nefarious things that the DOJ has been doing to him, that they've got copious amounts of criminal stuff evidently. Very interesting. A lot of things playing out right now. We'll be exposed to them, pretty quick. It seems to me that they're planning a big shenanigans this summer. So, boy, I hope all of you, for the most part, are out of a city, and, they they may really pull a big trigger this summer. K?
So we'll see. We'll see. Anybody in the audience got some comments to all this dialogue here? Many new students out there with questions that wanna come forward.
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Roger?
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Yes, Julie?
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I read a lot of stuff about, this summer and all the plans they have. And it's I have faith over fear, but it's, I think a reality. You have all these sleeper cells that came into our country, all men, single, of military age. So many people on YouTube have done, have tracked these people where they go. You've got too many channels like Sean Ryan's channel on YouTube where he interviewed, Jane Doe who has connections inside Al Qaeda, who has a book out called Al Qaeda two point zero that I read and they're planning something big in this country. And so I again, you know, we can just help and pray that this doesn't happen, but be prepared. And then they've got the mRNA, that just rolled out, for mock.
That was, an interview between Mike Adams recently and the medical rebel or Lee Merritt. That's on bright u. Tv, I think it is. And, just too many of people coming out, even doctor David Martin, his recent interview,
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shows that they have something big planned for the summer. So I yield. Yep. Yep. I'm I'm, you know, right in their MO to do that. They got no other choice. And for the most part, they've been real quiet, haven't they? I mean, a couple of exceptions, but they've been pretty quiet. They're planning something.
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Just be ready. Yeah. They they're they're definitely planning something. We're getting bombarded every single day with, chemtrails, poisonous water, poisonous food. I have 27 cancer causing contaminants in my water. And, you know, every month you get a nice little statement in from your water authority company telling you how safe your drinking water is.
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Really? Yum yum. Unbelievable. Yum yum. So hell of a time. Best thing you can do is follow the biblical directive and come out of her, my people. Come out of her. And we got the way for you.
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Roger? And, yes. Yes. Yes, Julie? I got a, I get I I have a couple of people who are from overseas, and everybody, we hear about everything taking place between Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Iran and all of this stuff. The situation in Iraq right now is just so bad right now. They have, they have shut off the water, and all the people who live in rural areas have been cut off from electricity, and water levels from the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers
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have They're just about dry. They
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have to close all the dams, and and Iran and Turkey are no longer, supplying the water and people are taking to the streets in demonstrations every day. That's And then there's It people who are close to the city, and the electricity is on for, like, two hours, and then it shuts off for five hours. And they get water delivered to them every four days. And this is from a guy who lives in this area, and it just it's so vulnerable to the one
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world order. Take a breath. Take a breath, Julie. You say this is in Iraq? Yep. Okay. Well, we hadn't heard about that. First, I've heard about that. Wouldn't surprise me. No. No. They're they're about to have civil war in Israel. Israel's pretty close next door. I guess Jordan's in the way. But, I'd hopefully, Trump's little trip over there kinda given the Arab world the attaboy or two, is is going to help us everybody out. All it does is piss Netanyahu off, of course. Boy, what a world these damn Jew bastards have created for me. I know what I wanted to talk about. I spent about two hours yesterday.
I've gotten on a e Michael Jones kick the last few days. Now, Julie, are you familiar with e Michael?
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I'm familiar with him, but I have not followed him, and I've not been on any of his,
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social media. Of course, he comes from a totally Catholic bent, and disregard that if you're not Catholic. And, but e Michael Jones, boy, he's got a handle on the history on these folks. I mean, real firm. And I listened to I would just I heard Paul mentioning him. I was listening to Paul's old shows the other day, Paul. And he was mentioning he'd stumbled on an e Michael Jones that he was listened to. And Cromwell came up, and he said something on Paul's show over there, Paul English live, that I'd never heard. The people hated Cromwell so much that after they killed him, they put his body in a cage, hanging him, and they left him hanging until his body separated from his head.
K? But that got me stimulated. I've listened to E. Michael over the time. He's really on top of this Jewish issue.
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And, we want to we want to make Cromwell's head fall off again. Hey. Look at there. There's Paul. Hey, buddy.
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Hi. So I almost sent you this last night. I went over to Bitchute and put in any Michael Jones. Hell, there's a bunch of stuff over there. And, one of them is they've republished the Goyim's Guide to History. Have you ever seen that? No. As a Goyim, should I get it? Yes. You need to listen to it. It's two hours long on all this background. Most of it you probably never heard before. K? It's spectacular. Actually, is it new or is it relatively old? It's old, but they've gone Yeah. I've heard it. Somebody I've got it somewhere in my library. Yeah. It's good. It's a good Well, they've about three I think there were three shows in it whether or something like this for you. All into one. They've merged it all, and they've cleaned up the audio evidently. So if you go to Bitshoot and put in e Michael Jones, they republished it, and it's the second or third option. It's a Goy's Guide to History, about two hours long. Wow.
All I can say is wow. Hey, Paul. Welcome, man.
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Hey. Hi. I just thought, you know, I heard you talking about surfs. I thought, oh, they're talking about us a lot over here. So, you know, surfs up, basically. Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. I know my place.
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But the I if that guy's guide to history is I gotta admire e Michael Jones. I mean, I know he's, you know, hell bent for Catholic. But, and he really pans the Protestants,
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which may not be wrong. Oh, he does. Oh, I was shuddering.
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You said, you know, Protestants are white boys that don't go to church anymore. And I said, why would we go to church? All the churches are corrupted through the World Council of Churches.
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That was exactly my thought as well. Yeah. What are you going to one of those places for? They're all wolves in sheep's clothing. You know, I'm not against the idea of churches. I just want mind one actually existing. And he's So, they're a joke. You know? The Protestant
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revolution resolution was a a bunch of white boys rising up and stealing all the Catholics' property, which I'm not sure the Catholics didn't steal it in the first place either. So
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it's very interesting. Well, he's right. Yeah. That is what happened. It's a bad it's a bad it's a rum dude. There's no two ways about it. But I think there's a lot of influences in it, which I'm sure he's aware of. He must be. I mean, you know Please. So all of that thing with Henry the eighth, it's, you know maybe I've mentioned when I've been on here before, I kinda look at that as a sort of that's the starting gun for the collapse. It really is. Although, certainly, you know, Belloc, who writes was also an ardent Catholic over here who I rate very highly. He's great. He's really good as Belloc. He says, no. The fault lines were already developing within Catholicism in the late thirteen hundreds, and they weren't. They develop in every single institution we've ever had, these fault lines. Every single one, they always develop.
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The pope the Catholic church was not aware of the Babylonian Talmud until December. It had been in existence five hundred years, And finally, the pope Gregory or whoever it was, somebody turned him on to the Talmud, and that's when a a lot of fur started flying right there. Yep. That's very, very interesting history here.
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Yeah. It is. It's it's I mean, there's I think it boils down to a fundamental fight that's been going on for thousands of years. You either go through the portals of the Temple Of Mammon or you go through the portals of the temple of God. You Yep. And it's very difficult to live down here without some kind of an interaction with the monetary system, and that's where it's all become abused, you know. And, you know, so I am like a broken record. I apologize. I'm always saying this, but there you go. At least I'm comfortable I'm comfortable with it because I know it's true. Well Yeah. Yeah. And it it it helps some new people, I think, to realize
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this is an age old battle. This isn't something that just started here in the fourteenth amendment. This is an age old battle of these people coming and following their holy book and saying we have a right to enslave everybody. They've been history slavers. Go listen to David Duke's video on the history of Jewish slavery. Even in the middle ages, there was one chief Jew in Europe, and he had all the slave trade. This is their stock in trade, just slavery.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, it's almost their stock in trade. Is there anything that's, rooted in Christian law, they're a guinea Yes. By almost like as a sort of reactive adolescent child having a tantrum. And that's how I view a lot of it. It's highly intelligent tantrum, but it's a tantrum nonetheless.
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And it's always a, well, you did this to my grandfather, so I'm gonna do all this to you.
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Yep.
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It is. And and you come back, and the thing is I did this to your grandfather because he screwed me out all this money and stole my house. They never look at the original, shot that's fired or the the original hit. It's always the second one. Okay? Mhmm. And they become quite skilled at it. It's just like a match, any kind of a match. The referee doesn't see the first elbow, but he sees the guy that got elbowed throw a punch, and he blames him, and he gets the penalty. Same It's true. Type thing. Yeah. Mhmm.
And and and they've got this blood feud with the Arabs going on for God knows how many thousands of years.
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Well, I think I think they kinda play good cop, bad cop, actually, to be to they use them. They use one another. Basically, the one thing that they've got in common is they wanna wipe out Christians.
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That's it. I can't disagree. Yeah. Come out of her, my people. Come out of her. So, anyway, Paul, well, thanks for I'm glad we, chummed you up, buddy.
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Always love to have you come by and discuss these things with us. And they're probably I was trying to hop in a bit earlier, but something popped up here. I don't know why. I was just, I've been, plowing around doing things and having a good couple of days here, doing all sorts of boring tests, but they're getting tidied up. You know what it's like? It's a bit like, you know, when you sort out your your laundry basket and things. I've been doing a lot of things like that. I'm feeling really rather good about it, actually. That's how small things are, but it's good. It's good. It frees energy up to do other things. And, Yeah. I mean, we've had, the last ten days or so over here have just been madder than ever. And I so I'm assuming they're gonna get even more unhinged and insane because they tend to be going that way.
And it's, yeah. These are the times that, unfortunately, we live in. Yep. Did I hear that Starmer's bringing you back into the EU? Yeah. I think he's already thinks he's done it. I mean, may you know, the the in a way, is that a problem? Well, it it is a is a problem, but it does illustrate the point, not that people like you and your audience need to have it illustrated. The the idea that democracy gives you a say in the management of your nation is just a hilarious fiction. It's complete nonsense. And, you know, but most people want the penny won't even drop with them. I think it's to do with, like, this inertia of compliance with authority.
You you got it in churches, for a long time. People ended up really following the church as opposed to following scripture directly. And so, you know, those English types actually turning the Bible into English was actually a big blow for all that nonsense. Yeah. But that said, the Protestant church is no better or no worse than the Catholic church, you see. Because I I think that's what it is. People become ardent followers of a particular church system, and you don't need to. Yep. Yeah. And I think the real English people and probably, therefore, by extension, those people that came from these islands and and sort of formed the basis of all the good law that you've got in America, we're not like that. We just but we're mockers. We go, you no. You're up your bum all the time. I mean, I grew up with that all the time. No one believes these people. Not real people on the ground, but in their fictional world, which, of course, they're able to project massively because of their control of the media. Yeah. People sort of think, oh, it must be like this. Everybody else must be thinking like this. I, therefore, must think like this. And so they followed all sorts of complete nonsense and gibberish, you know. So it's, and it's very dangerous stuff.
Obviously, it's very dangerous because people have got out of the habit of actually questioning authority. They don't do it. Yep. They just complain. That's
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why I say, you know, people say, well, I think this. Well, you don't think anything. All you're doing is reacting to how you've been programmed.
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That's right. So don't tell me you're thinking. Thinking is not easy. You're you're regurgitating
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like Polly want a cracker.
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Mark
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Rock. Yep. Spot. It's a rare occasion when we've got our good friend Paul English on here. Is there anybody in the audience that would like to ask Paul a question or make a comment? You know, what's the reason we're here, folks? This guy right here is the reason No. The reason we're here is because of god. It's not making it. Alright. You you gave us the mechanism to be here.
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K? Oh, I love it. I love a nice mechanism, Roger. You know me. I'm a bit of I've got a weak spot for mechanisms. But yeah. I was you were talking about the first hour there, you know, about, the lack of interest or the perceived interest or whatever from certain clusters and people and individuals Yes. I you know, it's I spend more time thinking about that than anything else because you're looking I'm looking for a mechanism. There might not be one, you know, that would ignite more people more rapidly. It's just to increase the rate of growth. Yep. I suppose everybody that gets involved in anything like this, of course there's nothing really like this because we're we're trying to return, I would suggest, to the true operations of the law as given to us is extremely frustrating. But, I I think, you know, there's that thing in scripture where, where is it? I don't know. Thessalonians or something like that? Look at me. I'm quite in chapters now. It's it's getting out of hand with me. Uh-oh. That bit about I will send them a great delusion.
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Oh, that's why I'm here. Yeah. They'll they'll believe a lie.
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Yeah. And I think those that are in that yeah. Those that are in that delusion, they're gonna remain in it and they'll get, you know, progressively more and more punished by it. At least Yep. I know we are punished by it by the frustration of not being able to get through to people to this at the speed that we would like to with all of these things. And that this is a great communications challenge. It's not for one of the lack of truth. It's for knowing, I think. My thing is, how do I parcel it so it can be consumed? I'm thinking about this a lot. You know, like, the other week you had Brent on. He was talking about Charles Hadding Spurgeon, you know, this great English preacher in the eighteen hundreds. And I think when I came in, I mentioned that Spurgeon has written something like 3,800 sermons and each one's 10 pages long. That's 38,000 pages of sermons.
And you think, now there might be all the truth in the world in this. There probably is. There's probably so much beneficial things on which to stimulate your thinking that obviously I haven't got a lifetime. I'm not gonna be able to hear them all or read them all and it's unlikely that I will. But then I think about, people whose lives are overwhelmed by the great distractathon, as I call it, you know, the the nature of human living. There's no way there's no way that they they even know that those sermons are ever gonna exist, let alone read them. Most people don't even know that they exist. They're not even looking for that stuff. And even if they did, they're not gonna sit down and read even one of them. It's 10 pages. So it's it's to do with the times that we live in and sort of the Yes. The way that we're buffeted around from one drama after another has become what people think is life. And I guess, therefore, it has to some degree. It's this great drama.
How do you get people away from that? And, you know, we we we're right to berate people and say, turn the TV off and do these things. But we gotta I think we have to offer something else. I mean, you're mentioning E. Michael Jones. Right? His books are enormous, and they're fantastic. You know, I think the Jewish revolutionary spirit is about 1,400 pages or something like that. Wow. He's written one on and I've read that. I I lent that out to two people who couldn't read. He said, I can't read it. And I'm going, right. Apart from being cross that they couldn't read it, I just thought this is not gonna work, you know. And you've gotta bear in mind if you can plow through things like that, which I think, you know, the more people that can, the better because, it improves your powers of concentration and stitching all of the information together. You think, oh, I can't deal with this. Yeah. You can. You can.
But you can't if you don't spend any time reading. And I look out there and most people don't spend any time reading. So otherwise, I've gotta be found, but,
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it's worth pounding away no matter what. There there was a survey in US. I'll get you a second. Dave, there was a survey in The US recently, Paul. Fifty three percent of the people surveyed could not read past the sixth grade level, and twenty one percent were totally illiterate. How do you expect them to read 1,400 pages?
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How do you expect them to understand what you're talking about? Hey, boys. This is another thing. I don't. I don't. I don't wanna say. But Yeah. You I keep standing back. They've got nothing to fit it into. I think I You can I meant I've yeah? Sorry. You can present the the best way we found is to present the equivocation
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to them backwards. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a citizen of The United States Of America? And that simplifies it. They can bite that off. And if they don't bite and wanna learn more, you plant a seed, pray for them, and go on, find somebody else. You do do not waste your time trying to beat those people up. All it's gonna do is call cause, consternation, and you're probably gonna end up with an enemy instead of an associate. Okay? Because I've I've been down this road. I know how it works. Okay? Dave, you were trying to say something a minute ago. What did you have on your mind? Yeah.
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I got a couple things. You know, even our congress, Roger, remember they they would say, an attorney, a black guy from Michigan. I can't think of his name right now, but he said, the bill's 3,000 pages. You gotta have an attorney to read it and decipher it. We can't read it. We just sign it.
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Right? Yep. That's right. Or Nancy Pelosi saying, we'll find out what's in the bill after we pass it.
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Right. So that's what we're dealing with here. Now now Paul mentioned, good old kink Charles. He's over here on our continent today. He they said this is breaking news. They said he'll be addressing the Canadian parliament from the throne in Canada. Now I'm picturing this guy sitting on the Louvre with his pants down around his ankles, and he's gonna be dressing down. Canada's not for sale. That's why he's coming here to tell Trump that Canada's not for sale.
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Well, talk to the Western provinces. You know? Talk to the Western provinces. It's like somebody said they were out there on Calgary.
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In Canada. It was I don't know Canada had a problem.
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Well, Canada, Martin Armstrong was up there talking to a bunch people in Calgary. That's in Calgary, Alberta. That's one of the rebel provinces. And somebody said, well, that doesn't flag doesn't represent us. All the maple trees are back east.
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That's true. That is true. So But see, we don't have thrones in in in America. The throne, it's the the lube in in England. Right? The lube is the toilet for those that don't know. So Yes. I just I had to laugh when I heard that on the radio today. We've got an interpreter.
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You know? What did Winston Churchill say? A a related people separated by a common language. Something like that.
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Yeah. It is. There is that.
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Thank you. There's that. Thank you. Paul, what a pleasure to have you drop by, my friend.
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No. It's it's fine. I mean, that thing about that that, that was just mentioned there about this 3,000 page thing. I mean, when you think about it, who is compiling things that are that long? Who can afford to do that? Well Yeah. Yeah. The the whole it's ludicrous. Cons the art of concision and getting to the point has been intentionally lost because you're then absolutely exhausted by their infinite capacity to over communicate.
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Yeah. It's just And it and it's pointless. That's what they're trying to do is to get the congress to put in bills one one issue at a time instead of these omnibus 1,500 page bills with everything but the kitchen sink in it. Paul. Yes.
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Paul, do you Yeah. It's either a bill mill, a company that hires hundreds of people just for creating the bills, or they spit them out with AI with everything but the kitchen sink contained between the covers.
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That's it. Well, there's a group of people behind the scenes that write these things, and, and and then they go to whatever congressmen give it to them and say sponsor it. But there's a bunch of people behind the scenes that write these things they know. They can take these words that are so critical and make sure that's the right word in there and all that kind of stuff. By the way, the law dictionary they use, as my understanding, they use the 1917 Bovier's law dictionary back there in that group for whatever that's worth.
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As as the Romans will want to say, the proliferation of law is the end of civilization.
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We don't need anymore. There's no Very good.
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It's the jots and tittles. Right? Nothing to be added. Nothing to be taken away. So because it's not being paid attention to the actual fundamental simplistic law, it is relatively simple. Yes. But it of course, it it throws a spanner in their works of trying to create all this globalist structure. It's
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not for that. I don't know. Oh, my view of sports. I know you I don't know what SpaceX is. That's a a company that shoots up satellites for the government.
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Right. Paul, you've heard Brent a lot. Have you ever Brent is he's such a godsend to break these very complex things down into real simplistic either or situations. Have you ever heard his statements on the law that there's only two groups of law, law of the land, law of the city? And and the law of the land, we're involved with process. We emphasize process because if the process is followed, the outcome will be correct no matter what. Okay? Yep. In the law of the city, they emphasize the outcome, not the process. The process is used to achieve the outcome they desire. There's your difference. Right? They're plain, simple, and understandable.
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Yep. Yeah. That's true. It's absolutely true. I mean, the laws are very simple. They're not even very long. I mean, I'm just going back to the 10 commandments. But because they're not applied, you've got all this basically, the whole of the legal profession is a massive expensive band aid process. Talking about complete nonsense, no one can actually come up with a decision. Oh, we've got to consider this. No, you don't. What does it say? Right? Just do that. Anybody fancy living, you know, the anybody fancy actually living by the law as opposed to this stuff that you're just making up? It's a factory that makes stuff up. And, of course, you could say it's the script for next month's, news drama because it's all drama.
It is. And it works because of that what is it? That psychological proclivity that we all have, apparently, and we do, that we are much more attracted by negative scary news than we are about boring stuff. Nobody actually made a newspaper spin saying everybody's happy. There's no no problems. Come back next week. They all go, this is boring. Yeah. You know, people want drama.
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They talk about the adhering to the law. Well, which law? There's a bunch of different kinds of laws. Do you know, Paul, that Rome for the first two hundred years was run on 12 tablets? It's probably when they laid the foundations in of all their strength, to be quite honest. That that was when they were under basically a common law situation. We know they had the 12 tablets. We've not we don't know what was on them, but we know they had them, and they adhered to them. Basically, probably like the 10 commandments, I would think. And then it was the intrusion of the merchants bringing in this merchant code with their easy self help remedies that the Roman citizens kept going to the pray to him. We want that remedy. We want that remedy. We don't have to go to court. And over a period of two hundred years, year by year, they gradually gave him a little bit more and then they incorporated the self help remedies along with the Babylonian code into the Roman law. And that's what became the Roman civil law, which is what our United States code is. It's a melding of these two groups of laws and remedy force that. So interesting history. It repeats.
We'll see you tomorrow, and thanks for being with us. Hopefully, you, pick something up today. And maybe if you're lurking, maybe tomorrow, you'll be not scared enough to come out and say hello. We'd love to meet you. See you soon regardless. Ciao. Ciao. Alright. So Paul will dink us off. Paul, have you heard of all these hold on a second, Larry. All these hits we've been getting, not only at our our website, but through Dave and Kaye, who've got their own website, they're getting thousands of of hits from all over the world, including United Nations. Good. Yeah. Interesting. Good.
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Yeah. I I it's I think it's a matter of well, I'm thinking it's a and I could be wrong. But just boiling these things down, I've got to be able to say them to a man in the pub. I've got twenty seconds with him. That's about it, really. Yep. And and I mean it. And I I think, we might be getting there because it's basically you've got to ignite the emotional outrage in people. They they can't hold on to it long because they're pacified by something almost immediately. Beer, sport, whatever. Right? They go they're back into the funk really quickly. Right. But it is it's slowly happening, you know. And I don't know whether you can appeal to sort of their courage or whatever. I'm sure it's there, but it's so covered in dust they've even forgot what it is, at the moment.
They're just exhausted. Most people are exhausted intentionally so that they don't have too much spare energy to pay any attention to things. I'm too pooped to turn up to the meeting. I can't do this. You know? Thoreau
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Thoreau that said most men lead lives of quiet desperation.
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They do. They do. Oh, gosh. Do you think he was talking about us?
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No. I think we're out of that. We're out of that. We lead lives of noisy desperation. I'm very noisy and vocal about it. Yeah. We lead lives of trying to right wrongs and and expose truth. Larry, you were trying to say something. Here's a real truth exposure right here, Paul. Larry down in Jacksonville. What you got, buddy?
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Yeah. A few minutes ago, you mentioned that the law of the land deals with process, and the law of the city deals with seeking the outcome first. And this is what I asked you about the other day, but you were too I guess you were sick, and you didn't wanna get into it. But could you give me an example of both those scenarios?
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I think, you know, that's Brent's statement. I wish you'd ask him. I I mean, okay. Of it.
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That okay. Go ahead. I I will ask him Friday. I will.
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I can give you an example of it. Used to be when law meant law, they would discover a crime, and through investigation, they would find the guilty party. Now, even going down to the simple interactions with, a traveler and a cop on the side of the road, the cop finds a person, finds a name, and just goes hunting for something to hang on them. They go looking for a climb a crime.
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Well, what this is the Soviet. Show me the man, and I'll I'll show you the crime.
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Exactly. And it meant the law of the city is, they have a desired outcome. The the the judiciary wants to put the handcuffs on somebody, and they will use whatever process necessary to achieve that.
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Okay. That'd be a good question for Brent, Larry. Alright. Hold on. Who is a may I guy? You and Brent. Paul? Beaner?
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Yes. Beaner. His what the example he just gave.
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I I I I guess so. Just well, let's wait and ask for him on Friday and get his read on that. I believe he's absolutely accurate. We'd I I think that's a wonderful comparison. Ask him, Larry. Okay? It's his statement. Now there was a guy and a girl there wanting to say something. Let's take the guess. Who's a female? Alright. Hold on. Maybe first. We're gonna go with ladies first. Ma'am, there was a female there, I think, wasn't there? Going, going, gone. Go ahead. Who was the guy? Well, let's see why he's
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qualified immunity qualified immunity. Wouldn't you say the IQ level was less than lower than 100 for a police officer?
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Would you say I'd say that? Well, I've heard that from the cops themselves.
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That they deliberately seek these, lower than a hundred IQ people.
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They would not let them hire anyone with an IQ above 100. Yes. Was that your comment, Wahid?
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Yeah. I was just I I wanted to reflect on that because, I I was trying to think of it. I was trying to think of the when I was talking to a friend about how what causes this reaction in these people, you know, that should cause it? Because I look at a lot of the, what they call the police auditor videos, and you said in the past, do not do that. Do not ever to approach these people in that type of fashion. Isn't that what I believe that's what you said. Well, I don't think it's
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wise to argue these things on the side of the road with someone with a lower than a hundred IQ with a Glock on their hip. No. I don't think that's smart. Do you, Wyatt?
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I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't. Man, I'm sorry. The dog incident. I remember the dog incident too well.
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Okay. Well, Wade, do you have a point here?
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No. I just want to chime in. I'm call calling I only caught the last ten minutes of the program.
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Okay. Typical. Okay. Well, that's okay. You're in the bathroom. So whatever. Thank you. Was there yeah. There's somebody else Paul's there. Was there somebody else or female? Ah, there's George. Hey, George.
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Hey. Yes, sir. Hey. I got a rough signal. Stay up here and hope you all had a good Memorial Day weekend. The, yeah, the way that I recently learned about how to how to keep these things separate in my mind was, like, when they're addressing that that name that's on the license or the birth certificate or marriage certificate or death certificate or adoption certificate, la la la la. They're addressing The United States. That's the same thing as The United States as contemplated in the fourteenth amendment. The, the flesh and blood you is a whole different, you know, per person, if you will. But the persona that they're kinda creating is is basically owned by The United States. You know? So so we put that back in its box by either claiming, you know, they don't have proof proof of claim of of territorial jurisdiction or
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We can hardly hear you, George. You're breaking up.
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Yep. I guess.
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Now sorry, George. You're gonna have to get in a better cell, buddy. Okay. Anybody else? George, we just can't hear you, man. I mean, it broke out totally. So So if you can get a better sell, we'd like you to hear what you got to say. If you can't, it's futile. So while you're looking for a better sell, anybody else got something to add here?
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When they're looking to hire cops, they're only hiring cops that are smart enough to be able to follow instructions and not smart enough to ask questions.
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And their hiring cops are are are are immigrant. A lot I've noticed that a lot of the Yeah. They're doing a lot of the
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immigrant. Yeah. They sure are like Chicago and Illinois and stuff and probably out there where you are, all these lefty states. So, anybody else got something? Anybody got a question for Paul? Comment for Paul? Paul, we like your show. You gotta get that that laughing guy. You gotta get him to to turn down his mic a little bit. He laughs so hard he over modulates sometimes. I know. I keep working with him a lot of
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on a lot of this. Some people just take ages. It's hard. It's hard. Just to it is just trying to speak nuts. I know. Adaptive audio. With his sound, but you're absolutely right. Actually, I wanna have you on. I was speaking to Paul the other day. So I wanna Oh, good. Talk outside the show. Yeah. Like, almost like on a regular returning gig, maybe once a month or once every six weeks, you know, something like that. Yeah. And it's not even about the detail of it, although we need to go into that. But it's really about the I I just think the approach, the marketing of it. Like, I don't really, you know, it's it's not that I'm not looking for more information or a more nuanced understanding. I'm always looking for that. But it doesn't bring people in, and so I'm I'm really thinking about all these things. I it needs to be energized in some way. I had a I was on with, with Rhea on Sunday on this Sunday show called Sunday Long Live, US time, what is it? It's every Sunday. I'm only on once a month with her. What time does it start?
6AM eastern through to 10AM eastern. It's a four hour show. Oh, I see. It's starting to get people from Canada, yeah, on a Sunday. It's really pretty cool. And, I'm on once a month. So I was on from, like, nine till ten eastern. Uh-huh. Just gone. And I had a really good rant. It was great. It was really good. I was I felt quite fired up. Always feel a bit tired out afterwards, don't you, after you have a good sort of gobbing off about things? But Oh, yeah. It's, because, you know, you think, hey. I've just said all that stuff. Why is things still changed? It's so childish. It's true. I just go, oh, bugger it. But, yeah, the people just need I just think, you know, that and it's gonna rev people up.
It's not an intellectual challenge. It really isn't an it because if it is, we there's literally no hope for us. There's absolutely zero hope. I don't think intellectuals have ever shifted a thing. They hold a lot of things in check. And, you know, if you've got brains, you obviously are gonna use them. But it's a big mistake to think that you can talk like that and actually get people to commit, you know, to actually taking a role in their own life. This is the big problem with it. And I guess to some degree, they don't want to because they're very comfy. The you know, this is all part of the design as well. There is Not that I'm arguing for discomfort. I'm not arguing for that at all. I I think people should be comfortable. But it breeds a kind of it it amplifies a mental sloth that was probably already there in the first place.
So sometimes you just do have to take people's hands and stick them in the fire and say, I'm sorry about this, but you really need to bloody wake up. And the reason why we need to wake him up, you know, from a purely selfish point of view, I suspect, is that, we need them to protect us. I'm serious. Question. You know, you you yeah.
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Well, the more we grow our ranks, the safer we are. Go ahead, Paul. Yep.
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Well, I was I was thinking about that. I've been thinking about that after you and I had originally discussed it. And I'm wondering, you know, just because of the format of your show and then how things are done, you touch different points in a relaxed conversational way. And it gives people a chance to, jump into a concept or grab hold of a concept, and then they can they can, let that mull about in their brain for a little bit. And then they're gently moved into another concept rather than just pound see, I think the problem with the appearances that Roger's been able to make on other shows is he's got sixty minutes to get a lot of concepts out, and, he just it just goes right over the heads of most people.
They don't actually have a chance to put it in their own words.
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Paul, do you know I did two hours on Jeff Rents, and we haven't gotten a single person out of that?
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Yeah. Paul mentioned it to me when we were talking about this. It's about packaging. It's about it's about restructuring, I think, to some way, how we talk about these things. There's no I mean, you know, the the problem we have as people as well is that we are addicted to the truth, so you can't tell us enough. And we can't understand why everybody else is just you don't wanna drink it twenty four seven. Right? Yep. But they don't. The truth is they don't. You look at it, you go, they don't they're not interested. What little bit could I throw to put a little mind bomb in there?
And so tidbits and moving on. And it is like trying to plant seeds, and it's easy to talk about. Doing it is a different kettle of fish. I mean, I'm trying to work on lots of, like, jingles to run through the show but not pointless jingles, jingles with little truth bombs in, anything. And it doesn't even have to follow the flow of the conversation. In fact, the more it's disrupted in a way, I'm interested to see what that might happen because if you think about lectures, I don't know how long a lecture lasts in the university. Is that an hour gig? Something like that? Maybe they go on longer than that, right? Someone's got to sit down, look after their buns, right? They go I'm off to be a student. I'm going to learn about engineering and this professor's turning up and I've got to sit down with him for an hour and fifteen minutes. They've got a goal so they will go through that. But most people don't.
Most people don't. And even going back to that thing about Spurgeon's sermons at 10 pages, I haven't read one out but it must be over an hour. Right? Must be at least over an hour. Close to an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So and you think, okay. So when's he delivering those? It's the eighteen fifties and sixties and seventies. Why would they work then? Because there's nothing else in town. Nothing. Alright. They go home to church on a Sunday. There's nothing else going on. They go, this is my show. This guy is gonna give me a dazzling I'm here for the whole hour. Now? Now people can't concentrate more than sort of thirty five seconds because they become TikToks. I'm not moaning about it. I'm just saying we have to recut the cloth of communications and make it suit the times maybe. It's worth having a go. And if there's any consolation, if you look at what Christ said, it's really brief and concise.
He didn't bang on for hours and hours.
[02:15:37] Unknown:
It's the mean intelligence of the public and the education that they've received. You've seen you've seen those fifth grade and sixth grade exam papers from a hundred years ago in the little country schools and things like that. Yep. There were college kids that couldn't answer those questions today. You know, you've been saved my money. And I believe you have a fantastic exams.
[02:16:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That that's brilliant. In fact, Paul, if you've got one, I'm gonna go off and dig some up. I've just made a little note here. I've got some somewhere on file. I was looking at a US One from about nineteen o five. It's only two pages. I've got there's 50 questions on it. It's absolutely amazing. It's amazing. And you're going, woah, this is good. Well, that's because they went to school, and they went to church, and they worked on the farm or whatever they were doing to help their parents out. That's it. That's your life. There's nothing else going on. So you've got time to develop the powers of concentration. Yeah. This is why reading long form books is so good. Even if the book's crap, the fact that you can go I can actually sit down for forty five minutes, an hour and a half, and not get broken out of my concentration space, and I can focus on this thing, and I stop every few minutes to digest a couple of pages and move on. And slowly but surely, the more you do it, the better you get at selecting the sort of material that you wanna read and so on and so forth. But we don't live in a nation of studious readers. You know, what's that thing from the Bible? Study to show thyself approved?
Well, people can't study. There's a bit of a problem. You can't get approved if you're not gonna if you're not gonna study this stuff. I So I think it's down to the sort of the intermediary communicators like ourselves to find formats that fit the age that we live in. And, and it ain't just videos. Videos don't do it for me, I have to say. But, it's gotta be something like that. It's gotta be something like that. Because I think they're going to drama. They're going to too much entertainment fact. And, oh, this this is terrible. They're gonna do this to us. They're gonna do that to us. They're gonna oh, it's awful. I give up. Right? Well, that's kind of, you know that's why I say that the alternative media is becoming its own worst enemy because it's just an alternative version of scaring the pants off of everybody. Nothing constructive comes out at the end of it. You know? I believe
[02:17:45] Unknown:
the I believe the average course length the average class length, like, in college and the lecture has to fit within it is forty minutes.
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Okay.
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Okay. Yeah. I believe that is Yeah.
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And if there's two hours, because I used to be a teacher with two hour classes, we'd give them a break. So whatever. But I think most of the classes were about an hour. Anybody, I I had to miss that. I had to go talk to my landlord for a minute. So We heard every word, Roger. We were You gotta sue him back. Then I gotta go give her some money so they can go on vacation for a week.
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Idaho.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay, George. Now I know you're a little better. Once you got home, we gotta we gotta make room for George here.
[02:18:35] Unknown:
I appreciate it. I, yeah, going through the the hinterlands up here. But, yeah, the the thing that I thought was really a great way to understand that whole driver's license, you know, birth certificate, marriage certificate kind of thing was that that's basically, when they're addressing that, that's The United States they're addressing. That's created by them, the fourteenth amendment and everything kinda after that. So I thought that was a really good, way to look at it when we're trying to figure out who who we are, you know, who who we are in law. So if they're addressing you as dean of states, then, you know, then we act accordingly in that set of laws. If they're gonna and that's what they set up, you know, with the banking and everything else. And then if they're the flesh and blood common law man, then that's who we are as well. So anyway Yeah. But the thing is is they've gotta recognize us, and they've gotta deal with us. K? We've just found the little magic loophole, the
[02:19:32] Unknown:
you escape back to our original where we're supposed to be, status where you ain't got no hands on us, Jew boys. We get out of Jew slavery here. So if you don't wanna live under the yoke of these bastards, come hang around. Period.
[02:19:54] Unknown:
I know. It's a big ask for most people, though, you know, because you're taking them out of their comfort zone. Well, you know, I think it's the safety's in the in the herd, they think, and they're right to think that, by the way. And then,
[02:20:05] Unknown:
you're saying, you know, it's a bit stinky in here. We need to get out. Oh, no. It's alright. But as a devil, you know, they say. It's not comfort anymore. It's not a big pink cloud anymore. There's pain. You can come out of that and relieve yourself of that, but you've got to do it. You know, the biggest object that I have here, Paul, is trying to teach people that you've got the power and you've got the choice. They do not understand that. They've been conditioned out of it.
[02:20:35] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's well, it's true. There there's all these there's all these problems. I've got about five minutes, by the way. So I just one of the I don't know if I mentioned it was on before. It's something that's just stuck in my head recently from, reading this book Crisis of Civilization by Belloc, which is a wonderful book. Right. It's only a couple of hundred pages, and it's great stuff. He's of course, he's an ardent Catholic, but I that's not why I read him. I understand some of his points about he's talking about a sort of unified approach to things, which, of course, is appealing as long as it's the right one. But one of the things that he talks about, in one section was about these three, aspects of civilized life. Let's call them aspects. There's probably a better word, but I'll call them that for now. And it's talking about the spiritual, the political, and the economic.
And he's saying, for us to restore Christendom, and I love this word Christendom because it sort of moves it outside of the religious purview for a bit. Yeah. Because we gotta be really careful about what words you because they just trigger people off. No wonder, you know, with all the received stuff they've got in their head. The actual natural order of things is that a people are together and have like a spiritual restoration, let's call it that, a revival. I don't mean it literally in that way with lots of singing. I mean that there becomes a conviction that they see that there is this thing called the law. They become aware of it. It actually is dynamically working in their life and has been every moment of their lives and they need to get back to it. So we go, well these are the these are the values that we want to see back in our day to day living. We want to see the family being placed at the absolute pinnacle of all decision making, because without healthy families, what are we doing?
There's no future for anything. Whereas, you know, we're here as the current stewards with the next generation coming along. And it's our job to be good stewards for them, as our parents were, we hope, for us. We know it's not the case for everybody and so on and so forth. So you have that spiritual focus. A fire needs to be lit back. It's still in there. It's smouldering. And then that fire informs the political sphere because you've got to apply it practically. You say, well, look, here's a political process whereby we're gonna employ policies etcetera that bring about this spiritual thing and then the political class dictates to the economic sphere how it's going to behave. We're going to behave like this because if you don't behave like this we can't achieve these goals that all the people want which are the natural goals. In fact, it's not even their goals. They're actually under a contract to behave like this because this is what breeds prosperity and happiness and a sense of heavenliness momentarily from time to time, which is, I guess, you know, not a bad thing when you look at what we've got. What we actually live in is the complete reverse.
So the economic sphere has assumed and taken control of all this power. It dictates and controls the courts and the media and the political class, and it's using that political class to destroy families in very simple terms. That's what's actually happening. We we live in a reverse o world, and I'm just trying to always find new language to describe the same problem. But it seems to me that without that fire, it's not a technical or intellectual challenge. It's to do with fire inside people. It's to do with getting fire back, whatever you might think that means. It does mean passion.
It may mean speeches where you are hitting the lectern with your fist. It may mean that. It may mean a type of language which is rough. I don't know what it means, but it means something with force and real volume and intention and, and vocal passion behind it because that's what moves people. It's not intellect. Intellect doesn't do anything. No. Emotion. Yeah. It it it just it really is that, you know. So we don't say, look, they they're running a fractional reserve system and charging you interest. That's tedious. We say, they're robbing you blind and they're bullying you, and they're stealing money from you all the time. They've been doing it for hundreds of years. It's this sort of language, rougher language, that's simpler, more direct, gets the point across faster. There's a room for that. Once you've you've got a crowd doing that, you'll get people from that crowd who will naturally say, I need a more nuanced understanding of this. We go great, here's all these books, off you go. You can't read, can't you? Because, you know, we ain't got the time to actually serve everybody. But it's it's something along that process because we used to have, across Europe when Christendom was unified, no matter what we may think of the Catholic Church, we had basically an agreement across these nations about what was morally and ethically right. For example, you were completely forbidden to practice usury And the church weakened on it, and this opened up the floodgates. And you were, you know, the commercial powers, just like in Rome, as you were mentioning earlier, began to dictate how life is life is to serve commerce. No, it isn't.
It's what it's become. But we can't possibly be happy if we allow the commercial class, the creditor class, to dictate things to us. And, of course, they do it through the law and these turning us into serfs and all these other things, which you're very familiar with, Roger. I know. But Oh, anyway. That's my life. Too familiar.
[02:25:44] Unknown:
I've got to go. I've got to go to lunch. I think you said you had a couple of minutes. Paul, just love having you drop by.
[02:25:51] Unknown:
Nice to let me drop by. Thank you. So much. And,
[02:25:54] Unknown:
let me know on your,
[02:25:56] Unknown:
your idea on your program, and we'll work something out. And We will. We'll have a chat outside of your show, Alex. Oh, okay. Is it better to call you after the show or before your show? What's your day like? Normally after. Normally after. Okay. Except for Tuesday. My time, but I'll I'll give you a call maybe tomorrow tomorrow afternoon your time, something like that. Okay? That would be good. Thank you, man. Always love you, and take care. Okay? All done. Somebody got alright. Somebody's got something to say there. Who is it?
[02:26:24] Unknown:
Before Paul goes, I'll put a link to that eighth grade eighteen ninety five test in the chat. Oh, yeah. And, Paul Binner wants to send it to him. He can pull it up and download it.
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Most kind. Thank you. That, Paul? Have you ever seen the graduation from ninth grade back in the eighteen hundreds?
[02:26:43] Unknown:
Oh oh, I have. Yeah. Well, maybe we should do it. You should do it as a show. Maybe I'll get the questions and start reading them out. I might read them out to my audience. So anybody got any idea on this one? First prize is a pencil. You get a pencil if you get them alright. No. We should. Only if it's a number of letters.
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It's here. I guarantee your college graduates couldn't couldn't pass that today. Go ahead, Rick. Sorry.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
It was from Salina Tech Salina, Kansas, I think, in eighth grade.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. And my daddy never graduated past the eighth grade. Go ahead.
[02:27:22] Unknown:
That's the eighth grade test right there, right, that I'm looking at in the chat?
[02:27:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. See if you can pass it, Wahid.
[02:27:32] Unknown:
Oh my god.
[02:27:33] Unknown:
I can't be in bad oh, lord. I I don't think a college graduate capacity, quite frankly. Very few.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
So You have nine rules for the use of capital letters.
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Oh, lord.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Help. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications. Define verse, stanza, and paragraph. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of do, lie, lay, and run. Define case. Illustrate each case. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation. Write a write a composition of about a 50 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. There you go: seven questions. That's how we want that's how people used to talk. I've got my my last comment, right? My dad left school in 1939. He was 14 years of age, and he was in the navy three years later and at d day and all that kind of stuff. He went in the navy when he was 17.
And I've got the school report written by his headmaster when he was 14 when he left school because he then went off to work He went off to work. He wasn't a teenager. They didn't have them in the nineteen thirties. Right? This report of on my dad is four paragraphs. It's absolutely brilliant. It's brilliant. There's about 12 sentences in it. You are left in absolutely no doubt about the quality and characteristics of my dad. It's just spot on and I'm going there you it's on an a5 that's half letter size, you guys, sheet of paper. It's just brilliant. And I'm going, I want to live in a world where people can actually communicate concisely, clearly, and precisely.
And you should see the guff that they're teaching people over here on mathematics. It's hilarious. Oh, yeah. It's just it's just it's insane. And, of course, it's not insane. It's an attack on us. It's a it's it's a veiled attack, and we're removing the veil to, you know, all of these things to confuse the mind, to overcomplicate things, to allow everybody to not have their feelings hurt. To hell with that. Get your feelings hurt. It's one of the best learning things you can ever have. It teaches you lessons very quickly, and that's what we need. So Yeah. All you gotta do is start telling them no. Well, my you hurt my feelings. Well, I'm real sorry, but disregard the fact. I've hurt your feelings. Here's some money. Go make a phone call to someone who gives a shit, which is what I usually say.
Right?
[02:29:56] Unknown:
Well, yeah. And used to, you could give them a nickel, and they could do a payphone, at least in Louisiana.
[02:30:02] Unknown:
We've been I miss all those mechanisms of the old world. You know? Yeah. We were talking about the other day. You can't have any cop movies anymore because everything if you actually make it proper, no one can break into anything because it's all to do with crypto hacking and stuff. It's so boring. Where's the guy in the car with the machine gun? That was fun in the chase. Yeah. You can't have any of that anymore. They've got caught inside five seconds. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. They killed Bonnie and Clyde, and it went. So, Paul, we'll talk to you soon. I'll look forward to it. Okay? Well, I'll give you a call maybe tomorrow or later in the week, Roger. Thanks for for allowing me on to gas off a bit. I listen to your shows, and I go, man, I'd like to say that and that and that.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
So I appreciate being on there. Okay?
[02:30:42] Unknown:
That's cool. That'd be great. We'll get you in. That'd be good. I look forward to it, Roger. Alright. And my audience, does anybody have anything for me before I take off?
[02:30:53] Unknown:
Oh, they've learned by now. There's the dinner bell. I will see y'all tomorrow on Wednesday, and we're probably gonna be a whole bunch of stuff to talk about tomorrow. Maybe we'll even have a new student or two. Who knows? Love you. Have a great day. Ciao. Thanks, Paul.
[02:31:09] Unknown:
Paul. Thanks, Roger. Bye for now. Yeah. Bye bye.
[02:31:13] Unknown:
Thanks, Raj. Bon appetit. Oh, that was fun, Paul. Thanks for coming over. Or did he did both of the polls or did both of them leave? Let's see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They both did. Oh, I'm left all alone. Bloody hell. Okay. Well, anybody show
[02:31:45] Unknown:
that is referenced about Paul overseas, what is the name of that show? Where is where can people find that? It's Paul English live, and it's normally,
[02:31:55] Unknown:
it's normally streamed on Global Voice Network and shared with this local, conference room.
[02:32:03] Unknown:
So it's on FCC? Just type in Paul English Live?
[02:32:07] Unknown:
No. No. PaulEnglishlive.com, is where you'll find the links to, radiosoapbox.com, Paul's Rumble channel, wbm324.com, all the other places that you can hear it. But it is also streamed in the PPN Radio Ranch room and on Global Voice Network. You can listen to it right here. So so there.
[02:32:51] Unknown:
Okay. I'm looking it up. Thank you. I was I had my finger away from the mute button and stuff on FCC. Yeah. I'll get her. Thank you, man.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Alright. Well, if somebody's got anything else to say, let's, let's take this down. Thanks so much for joining us on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on EurofolkRadio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, RadioSoapbox.com, and, the host of the Net family of broadcast services. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. You can find, exhibits. You can find, court sites. You can find downloadables, interviews, links to, access printed materials. Yada yada yada, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Thanks so much for joining us today. Have a pleasant afternoon, and I look forward to seeing each and every one of you back here tomorrow.
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Okay. Good
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morning, audience. Well, we got a holiday behind us there. Things settling back into routine, I guess, here on Tuesday, May at the Radio Ranch with your host, Roger Sales. That would be me. Now right here at the front, we, asked Paul to come out and put their I know Alan's with us this morning because he's playing the Stray Cat Blues there. So, who else is with a Stray Stray Cat Strut? Whatever. Well, the difference between Stray Cat Blues and a Stray Cat Strut. I'm just saying. Well, I understand, but I'm an old man doing recalls, so give me a break. Anyway, Paul's gonna identify the folks in including Alan and above Alan that are with us. And, we thank each and every one of you. We certainly want you to get the recognition and credit that you, our associates, have earned.
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Yes. For sure. And I will try and remember them all because, you know, when it comes to getting old, I resemble that remark. Anyways, we are on a full complement of platforms today. We're on radiosoapbox.com for two hours today, the full two hours. For the first hour of the program, we're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago, WBOU FM, the pulse of Chicago. Thanks to our buddy, pastor Eli James. We are on eurofolkradio.com. That, of course, is our primary and anchor platform. That's where it began, or at least this iteration of the Radio Ranch. We're on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Euro Folk Global Voice and free conference call to join us live on the show are on our website, thematrixdocs.com.
The matrix, d 0 c s Com. And we are also on the Net family of broadcast services that, also brought us WBOU. We're on homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live tv, and streamlife.tube. I believe we are the anchor program on stream life at this time of the day too. So I
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don't know how you remember all that in the first place, quite frankly. But, anyway, nice to have all the help. Nice to have the extension, if you will. And, evidently evidently, we're growing. You know, you get reports from Dave and Kaye. God bless them down there in LA. That's Lower Alabama. And on the Pearl River, I believe. And, they have noted all kinds of activity on the on that website from all over the world, including me. They've said saw a couple of UN flags pop up now and then, so that's good. We're reinforcing your, bylaws there, UN, that every man has the right of personal political self determination, and we're, we're determining that we ain't Jew slaves anymore.
That's right. Isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? So, anyway, gosh. Here we go. Tuesday. So it's a pretty day here in Ecuador. Got some sunshine in this morning. That's good. And, yesterday was kind of a repeat day. Best I could tell, everybody had repeats going on. I'm feeling good enough yesterday. I did get out, yeah, and go eat eat something because I didn't wanna go to the grocery store on an empty stomach and, and then went to the grocery store to resupply for the depleted supplies of the last six days, I guess, is when I've been feeling like, hammered monkey. So, don't get sick very often, but, boy, that got me. And my sinuses are very susceptible because they're screwed up anyway.
I I accused my mom of that because that's where I got them, and she said, sorry. So anyway, I gotta live with it, and, that hit me real hard last week. It's just I was absolutely totally worn out. I'd come do the show and then go lay down for the rest of the afternoon and five days in a row or something like that. But today, I'm feeling a little better. Probably sound a little nasal still, because the the memory still lingers, Like the traffic guy in Atlanta used to say after an accident, the memory still lingers. So don't know if there's a whole lot to talk about. I just heard a couple of things on Harrison. He didn't have anything to substantially cover that was a a verse shattering importance this morning that I heard anyway.
So, we'll just get off into some kind of a conversation. Maybe even maybe we had some new people on. That'd be, welcome. And we've got a number of peep well, there it's not a new person, but there's Julie right there. Morning, Julie.
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Good morning, everybody. Hey. Am I too loud, or is my voice okay? No. You're fine. You're fine. So yesterday, I don't know if I'm sure there's a lot of people on here who are aware of this, but there are a lot of groups that are forming called jural assembly groups.
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Called what? Called what?
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They're called general assembly groups in The States, and they are trying to take their states back and reform reconstitute the republic. So, anyway, this I'll make a long story short. I've been on several of these groups and I have not I've had issues with them and there's one out in California that I particularly do like, but, they meet, in the evenings on free conference call when I have things that, other commitments like I'm in the PMA group with Mark and stuff, and that's a priority for me. And so there's I have time conflicts. So make a long story short, it was Memorial Day last night, and so they held a, call last night, and I got on. And I asked all of them. I said, how on earth can you guys, do a an assembly if you're still a fourteenth, fourteenth Amendment citizen, and, I just don't understand that. And they basically said that they don't recognize anything, after the thirteenth Amendment.
So, then they said that they have met with the military and they have met with the FBI to determine that what they're doing is correct and not not unlawful and that it will work and that they won't wouldn't get accused for something like, insurrection or something like that. And the military and the FBI have, assured them that what they're doing is correct. And so what they do is they have these papers that they sign called a declaration of a new declaration of independence, a new declaration of unalienable rights, and a, jurill covenant of office. So anyway, I still didn't quite understand what they were doing, and I said, I really think you ought to get on Roger's show tomorrow. And they I told them the matrix doc. They went through the whole website, and I said and I gave them the number and the FCC site. And I said, if any of you guys could get on tomorrow, I said it would be awesome. You can hit star six to unmute yourself, or you can raise your hand or unmute yourself if you're using the free conference call thing and come on here and talk to Roger so Roger can talk to you about the fourteenth amendment citizen because they don't believe in becoming a national. They don't think that's something that's necessary. So I don't know if anybody's on here. If you are, we would love to talk to you.
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Yeah. We'll try and explain it to you. I don't know how you disavow anything past the thirteenth amendment when the whole the whole, country's built on the fourteenth amendment. Let me see. Let's get because it says that yes. You can. Somebody's here. Well, okay. Yes, sir. I think. Paul, I got a I got a message, a a blue message here. If you could come on and see what that is, please.
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I think that's, I think I think that's that's Microsoft nagging you to upgrade to Windows 11.
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It's it's something to do with Bill Gates and his monstrosity, Microsoft. Anyway, I I don't want it to knock me into an update in the middle of the program because they're trying to force that on me, of course. Okay. Let's get to our guy here.
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There's a This is one from, WVOU, and I have a lot of information about what they are doing. About ten years ago, there was a gentleman, they were called the paper trip seven. And, there was a gentleman by the name of Eric Brandt. Eric Brandt was the only survivor of that group. Everyone else is in federal custody.
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Ah. And what they did That
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should give you some indication right there, Julie. Go ahead, Alan. Sorry. They fought their own grand jury, and having done so, they didn't have any political sanction. And having done that, yes. In part, they were absolutely right. You can form a civilian grand jury, but they, was lost in the dogma. It does have something to do with the fourteenth amendment. However, there was no authority to assemble as in a group as that would address the government. Without that authority, they were all convicted.
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Yeah. Well, they you know, again, I don't know. The these people just don't understand what's going on, and God bless them. I understand that they don't. It's complex. But how do a bunch of serfs get up and overthrow the lord of the manor?
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He runs. Because it's there's a power. You the biggest problem is everyone forgets we the people. And if if it is drawn by we the people, then there is no government. There is no, posse comitatus. There's no none of that. There's nothing. It's just we the people. And the biggest problem that we have is when they sit there and they try to separate We the People from the government. And that's the separation that we're actually trying to close the gap on because We the People are not in control anymore. Well, you're not a people when you're a serf.
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Sorry. But We The People were free people. They weren't serfs. Hey, Rog. You volunteered into being a serf. You agreed with their condition. And yet these people here say, well, we don't recognize that. Well, I'm sorry, but they do. So Can it's a different word than serve because, it's actually a, a shortening of a word servant. No. It's servitude. Servitude. And you're involuntary servitude, which is constitutional.
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Roger? For everybody on here, their website is americancivicseducation.org.
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Okay. Well, Julie, I'd go back and say, you know, after the Murrah Building, you were still asleep back then, weren't you?
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Well, I listen. I wanted people to come on here today to listen to you and all the education that you have Oh. Put your life on on putting together for all of us blessed people who are on here. I was just hoping to get another person on here to Well see, you know, what we're doing here, and Right. And,
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I guess nobody showed up today. Well, honey, I did two hours on Jeff Rents with a multi international audience, and none of them came either. So don't don't feel too frustrated. Yes, Paul.
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I think that both both Julie and Alan buttressed their own arguments because, what these groups are doing is they're attempting to assemble to overthrow the manor, but they are under a presumption of being a serf. They were nationals to begin with. They were nationals, and then the citizenship under the fourteenth amendment, that presumption was overlaid over them under contract. Birth. So birth. So they're both absolutely correct. Allen is correct because fourteenth amendment citizens tried to form grand juries without the authority to do so because they didn't assert their natural authority as, Well nationals.
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Well, Larry Clayman is trying to do the same thing right now. He's pretty celebrated attorney out there, founded Judicial Watch and all that. Messianic Jew, Larry. He's holding, trying to get citizen grand juries and all that stuff. He doesn't know our stuff. But I'm gonna tell Larry right out front, you're never gonna accomplish anything. You're never gonna accomplish anything until you throw hold on a second, Alan. You're never gonna accomplish anything until you throw off the yoke. I mean, I don't see how y'all don't see that.
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Yeah.
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It's all about throwing off the yoke. When I when I first entered with Hold on, Julie. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, if you remember when I first entered, there is a duality. You have a duty. You have your citizenship. The problem is they're presuming the duty first. And, with that structure, the hierarchy structure, that duty comes down all the way to the bottom, which means it wipes out your individuality, your individual authority. And, that's one of the questions that I had is we actually do have a dual status. And what they're doing is they're trying to engage that dual status without declaration.
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And without that No. They got no. They power. Can't be granted the power. You can't be have that power taken away. You just simply never claimed to have it. Alan, you're the one that answered the two questions. Yes. Every time they every time they ask you and you sign something. Didn't you?
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On my driver's license,
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you said No. Throughout all our lives, we've been asked those two questions in all kinds of financial stuff and other, and other documents. All of us have. Maybe sometimes twenty, thirty, 40 times throughout your lifetime. You always answered yes and you signed something. And yet you come back and say, well, they've been tricking us and this and that. No. You they, they did trick you. But now we know what it is. Untrick it and go get your rights back.
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It's a lie by omission.
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Yes. Well, so what? They do that a lot. They're Roger. You're the one that's responsible for catching it. That's the deal. If you wanna be individually responsible, you gotta go, hey. I did this. And belly up to the bar, correct it, and now go out and start swinging your sieve.
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Hey, Raj. Gary is here. Gary as in Gary and Gina? Gary. Gary as in Gary and Gina. Go ahead, Gary. I
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I you know, I mean, it's pretty clear cut to me, Alan. Some people wanna make this shade of gray stuff. To me, it's real clear cut. It ain't no shade of gray. You're either pregnant or you're not pregnant. Okay? Sorry. Gary, what you got? It
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goes back to the fact that Supreme Court has ruled US citizens are property.
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Yep. And if your property,
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whoever your owner is, dictates your rights. Plain and simple. I mean, it's covered on those two pages of the court cases that I I refer to all the time. If you're not reading those two pages of court cases, then you have no idea what's really going on. They
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spell it out a %
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on those two pages of court cases.
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So, anyway, that's these lines. So I appreciate Julie going in there and talking to all those folks. None of them showed up. Well, probably many of them are employed, so I can understand that. But if you Roger? My if you don't know and go through what we teach here, you are pissing up a rope to try and get any kind of grievances. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I like I said, I mean, this is before I even became your student that I was searching for the truth and I was trying to find out what to do and how to maneuver and navigate all of this complexity because remember, as I told everybody before, I was a student of David Strait, Bobby Lawrence, and Yvonne Wright's and how I stumbled on your class was a miracle because it resonated with me from inception. But as far as all these general assemblies, they're very, they're not consolidated. They're so fragmented. They're all over the place. There's a lot of infighting for lack of a better adjective. And I know Nancy and I have spoken and Nancy and I know about a Virginia General, General Assembly here that we both are not we've I've been on like one call or something like that. It didn't resonate with me at all. And I think I don't know, I'll let Nancy speak for herself and not misconstrue something. But, anyway, I have a really close friend here, who resonates with this group and she said, can you just please get on this tonight? Can you please get on this tonight? You don't have any calls. And she goes, I just want to know what you think. And so that's I got on and I threw that out. I said, I don't understand how any of you guys are doing any of this as long as you're still a fourteenth Amendment citizen. And I said, I really highly recommend you get all on Roger's show. It's six days a week. I gave them the website with all the documents and the phone and the FCC, and I said, if one of you guys, there were a ton of people on last night, could just get on to hear Roger's point of view on what you need to do.
And, I guess nobody's on here, so I'm I'm not going back on that again. It didn't resonate with me, so I I yield, but I'm hoping to get You know, it's like
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it it's kinda like Anavon Wright's trying to do this with assemblies all over the country, and they don't have any real firm footing. I guess you have to go through and you go to a leader, and he gives you a test to see if you know enough to be led into the assembly. That's kinda what I've been heard the the way they're structured. But they're not on the same page.
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Yeah. But, Roger, I mean, even if you wanna do a general's journal assembly, that's exactly what that doctor and lawyer, Reiner Folmich, did in Germany. He left California, went over there, and did his own drill assembly. Where is he? In jail. They arrested him.
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Yeah. So anyway, all I know is this is the only way in all the thirty something years I've been in this that I've ever seen people be consistently successful to the point where somebody from the passport office calls you, tells you they can't do what you want them to do, and you engage them in like Jerry did in a conversation. And whoever Hilton was that day from the passport office, probably more likely from the Seventh Floor of the state department, and told Jerry, he said, you really know your stuff. Boy, that now I'm a tell you what that made me if I was a peacock, I'd had my feathers up. Okay?
Because that just comes right back to me even though he doesn't know it and doesn't realize it. But that's why I emphasize education education, learn the material, learn the material, because they can't defeat you that way. And, really, we get enough people and they can't stop us either. So, you know, it's all it all goes back to this every time. Yes, Gary.
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Just to let you know, I contacted the head of the general society here at state of Montana. They wanna hear what we've got. She was very
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You got your I've also contacted
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Okay. In state of Montana.
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You're clipping real bad. Let me see if I can interpret what I heard. You contacted the leader of the Joral Society in Montana, and he was very combative when you tried to present him with the information like other people are have been. Is that correct? Is that what I heard? You're real choppy. Yes. And it was the she. It wasn't a he. Can you hear me better now? She had to change a little bit. Yes. You're you're you're not as clippy. Yes. Well, you know, our I got a friend, he's over in Philippines now, Scott. Some of you remember Scott hanging around here.
Old Atlanta boy. And, he, got on Facebook and found the expat page, You know, people going to expatriate, and he put a link to my stuff up there, and they they they blocked him. Go figure. Okay. If you understand the expatriation process and what you have to go through and the amount of money you have to spend, the amount of time it takes, and they rather than seeing this and having an open mind about it, blocked him from their page. So I don't know what to do about these people that are so close minded except plant a seed, pray for them, and go on about your way. Find somebody else. You know, here's the deal.
Some will, some won't, so what next?
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Roger?
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Yes, sir.
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I'm convinced that a lot of these people are paid agitators. Really? Maybe. Decide. They gotta be.
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They gotta be. Our enemy is not above our enemy to do something like that.
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Because the only thing that's referenced in the UCC and the CFR is national.
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Okay.
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That has a separate that's a separate
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it's it's it's everywhere you point. Yesterday, we're talking about it's in the passport, etcetera, etcetera. Julie, here if you talk to those people or anybody else, here's a good conversational little deal. If you get into one of these conversations, say, look. We're having a hard time agreeing here. Can we get to some place that we can agree on so we got some common ground? Well, if they say no to that, just, you know, go on about your way. But to say, okay. Well, there's only two political status. You're you're either free or you're a slave. Would you agree with that? Well, they gotta agree with it because there are no other options.
Okay? So you're either free or you're a slave. Okay? And then you might ask them, well, which one are you? And let them tell you. And so if they say they're free, then you come back and say, like last night on your call, Julie, oh, you're free? Well, tell me all the things you can do without a license, a permit, or permission since you're so free. Yep. It runs. Well, that stops them right there. Okay? Right. And if they say
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They did they did bring that up last night, but I told them, they did bring that up about licenses and permits and all of that stuff, including, the Social Security number. And I basically just told them that, look, I think you guys should get on Roger's show because, I this doesn't resonate with me. If you're still a fourteenth Amendment citizen, you're not free. I said you're a debt slave, and, and you're contributing to them. I said, as a national, I said, you get all of your unalienable rights back that way. Right now, all you guys only have is you can say you're not a fourteenth Amendment citizen, but you didn't rebut the presumption. And I said until you rebut the presumption that they put you in voluntary servitude, you're still there. I said please get on Roger's show tomorrow. We have all done this with a simple one page affidavit. I said it's right and I showed them on the on the FCC site where the everything was on the matrixdocs.com, and then I showed them all the resource center.
And that's all I could do, but I said, please somebody come on tomorrow, and I guess they'll be here.
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Well, you know, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them think. And, folks, I'm telling you, this is so frustrating. They're just people you cannot get to. And don't beat yourself up about it because it's their problem, not yours. All you're responsible to do is tell them. You're right. And if you pursue that and you keep pursuing that, you're gonna lose, especially with your friends. You're gonna find out a lot of people you thought were friends were only acquaintances. Okay. Paul and Gary both, and I don't know which one to recognize. Gary, I'm gonna recognize you since you're in a good cell. Go ahead.
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You know, I taught classes up here about becoming a national for almost three years. And at the onset, I had very few people, then it grew to more than a hundred people that's converted to a national in the state of Montana. I honestly believe when this started going that we would get a thousand just like on this radio show, but it doesn't work that way. Uh-uh. It does not. So, Julie, just keep your spirits up. Keep trying. You'll get there. You'll get peep some people. And Roger's right. The ones that this resonates with, it will. But not
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all. Not all I have shot. The ones that it resonates with, you won't be able to keep them away. Not beg them to come, you won't be able to keep them away. Okay? That's my opinion. I've got students I have Rudy, hold on. Let Gary let Gary let Gary finish. I'll address you. Go ahead, Gary. Finish up.
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I've got people that have come to me since I've stopped doing classes on Monday night because of my health situation that are begging me to do classes again. So it resonates with the people that it's supposed to. Yep. It's just that simple.
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So, you know, it's what's the old what's the old saying? You dance with the girl that brung you? Julie, now what were you gonna add?
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I was just gonna say that when you said you keep people away, I am I am I am, your perfect example of that. I remember when I had to I just completely sent you a million emails saying I need a consult, I need a a consult, I need a consult, and I because I didn't know what to do. And then I couldn't figure out how to get on these phone calls. But once I figured out how to get on the phone calls, it's like I I work my schedule around your calls every day. I I work late at night or I get up extra early in the morning to do the work, and I tell people, sorry. I have an appointment, and I won't be back until after one. Yep. I just Well you know, I have to be on these calls. I have to learn. I have to keep learning, and I have to keep embedding this in my brain.
And there's no better place to do it than here.
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It's a it's a positive obsession. And and people that, like Julie, just playing it right here, and I'll bet a whole bunch of you in the audience are the same way, you get obsessed with this information. Okay? And it just drives you. And it's been doing that with me for thirty something years. Okay? And I know it works that way because I know it worked like that on me. And listen, boy, in the old days, you couldn't get anybody to listen to you, and they called you really ugly names. Okay? But here we are. It's come full circle. This national thing or this freedom thing is starting to pop up all over the country.
Our audience has grown. The, people looking for this type of information, and we don't know if all those people from all over the world that are checking in with Dave and Kaye and Paul and the website, and both you are reporting thousands of of, increase in in in people that are coming by to kick tires, I guess. So don't know whether you're listening out there. Don't know whether you're paying attention to the archives. I don't know any of that. What I know is I will do my dead level best to be here six days a week so that when you do decide to cross over the fence and and whatever gets the best of you and you're gonna go ahead and open the mic and start asking questions and introduce yourself, we're gonna be here for you. K?
May I? That's what I yeah. Yes, ma'am. Is that Linda?
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No. It's Nancy.
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Nancy. Hey, Nancy. Oh, I'm sorry. You kinda sounded like Linda. Hey, Nance.
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Hey. I just wanted to, piggyback, so to speak, on what, Julie was saying. I I there's in Virginia, there's a Virginia juror jural assembly, and then there's other groups. You know, there's always other groups. And what's interesting about this group for me is looking at their information. I mean, they focus on this guy named KL, mister beneficiary. And looking at and his information is on YouTube. And, actually, a lot of his information actually, the source material that he cites is basically a lot of the same stuff that you do. However however and he calls it a union state citizen. But he does make the case between the federal, and the fourteenth amendment citizen and the and the state citizen.
But what I've because of my training with you over the last three years, some of his assertions I recognize is not true, about citizenship and and specifically, and birthright citizenship. But his focus is a lot about trust law, and, I'm still learning. What I'm what I'm using this as what I noticed, just, you know, when I'm evaluating the information, I'm going, well, what what's the what's the source material that they're referencing? And I noticed that so far that the stuff about state citizenship and federal citizenship is very similar, but the stuff around trust law, which is not what you focus on.
No. And I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying, what I'm noticing that there he doesn't have any source references. So that way, in terms of vetting information and questioning information, that's how I'm also just approaching it. And, also, networking with people locally. Whether we will agree, I'm not gonna try to make my push my I'll share my point of view, and my success. And people who are really invested in their process, it's, you know, like you've you have found. They're just very invested in their process, and they don't necessarily want to hear something that counters what they've accepted as truth. So, you know, this is all but, you know, I'm I'm approaching it, and there's another group down in Virginia Beach or someone who is, I think, a part of the journal Virginia Journal Assembly because I included the e I was received the email about another this other lady who is teaching and that she charges for it. Right? And there's a nondisclosure agreement.
But it's using scripture, how to defend yourself in in court and make things go away. So it's like, okay. That's I I look, okay. What's the red what's the red flag here? Oh, nondisclosure agreement, and she charges. Okay. So Yeah. It my question would be to anyone is, okay. What is the evidence? It's a nice story. It's a nice story. And, also, this KL guy goes into the the you're born and the afterbirth is identified as a separate entity and decedent, and that's the the basis for the straw man. Right. You know? So okay. But he and he touches on he does not directly touch on the feudal system, but he kinda does. He doesn't name it. And he and, like, with the citizenship stuff, he says that the state citizens there was birthright citizenship with the state citizen. And I go, nope.
Inside, I go, nope. That's not true. That's not true. And that's the the freed slaves were not born here, so they needed, you know, that's the fourteenth amendment. So no. Most of the people who were freed, black slaves, by the time of the fourteenth amendment had been born, severed, they were born here. So there's just, you know, in terms of evaluating information and narratives, you have to I ask myself, okay. What this is the assertion. This is the narrative. Sounds lovely. If it's, you know, but what is the evidence that that is true? And so I I feel very solid on the information that I've learned from you because I can prove it. I can prove it.
You can And I don't have to guess believe it.
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Those kind of guys, those folks didn't go through John they didn't have John Benson as a law teacher. So they don't know this old law. So you could ask them all persons born or naturalized. What's the legal definition behind the word person? Well, they're not gonna know. So how can you interpret the fourteenth amendment if you don't understand that law that's behind that one word person? If you go to Black's Law Dictionary and look up person, one of the things they say is this term is important because it's mentioned in the fourteenth amendment. But they don't know what it means. They don't know what the consequences are. They don't understand that that means which body of law are you under. So when it says all persons, it means all persons that are born under the assumption that they're under the fourteenth amendment.
So and that's why it says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And and. It doesn't say our. Our subject, it says and subject. So if there's somebody that's and subject, there's gotta be somebody, a group of people that are and not subject. But these people don't understand that. I'm not being critical of them. They just hadn't had the advantages we've had to be able to understand what that really says. And if you don't understand that old law, which most of our people don't because they don't teach it in law schools for the most part anymore, then you don't you you're you're urinating right up a rope.
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K. Yeah. Well, and and actually yeah. I agree. I agree. And I I'm just I'm I'm noting what So this valid information alongside invalid information.
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Con the you know, gratitude is a really important thing, and we don't exercise it enough, a virtue. Just be grateful that like I am, that I crossed paths with them so many years ago. In the six months that they were teaching, I was one of those 1,200 people that caught them at that point, and I am so grateful to the good lord for crossing my paths with them back then. And all of you should be too. And the fact that when I decided to leave to Argentina so here's the thing that I questioned so much. I'd spent fifteen years looking for the answer. I find it when I make a decision because a little voice came to me twice and said, you need to get out. So finally, I paid attention. I went and got a passport application and there at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years. Okay? Now was God telling me to get out of the country to get out of the country so I could teach this? Or was he telling me to get out of the country so I'd have to have a passport and find the answer in the passport application?
Well, that's one thing that I toy with a lot, okay, in my mind. But the this has all got some kind of divine plan, folks, and I don't know why I was chosen. I'm the most unlikely of suspects to do this. But for some reason, the good lord patterned my whole life so I could do this today. The t ten years of teaching, all the radio experience, all the different just all of my whole life has been groomed as I look back so I can do this right here as effectively as I can do it. And that's what's partially been frustrating for me is over the years, it, initially wasn't effective to to my vision. I understand it's a slow deal.
But even I had an email from an old friend in Atlanta as a female, and, she's she was I was doing this with her before I ever even got on the radio. Okay? And so with it. And through a a a neighbor who knew her through a a a girlfriend. And so she would call me, and I would have spent hours on the phone with Debbie. And she just couldn't get it. And I I I spent hours and hours and hours with her. Well, now she finally got it, went through it and all that, but she's going, wow. It looks like the radio group's really growing and all this stuff. And, you know, I think back to couple of months ago and Jeff Rents in one of his, emails to me says, you've got a really big audience out there.
Well, we don't necessarily feel that because we don't have the numbers here with us. But it's these people that have gone been exposed. They come to the show. They hang around for a bit and get their arms around it, and then they go off with this information and start in their own direction that they wanna go. Well, I can't tell them to keep coming around here. They're putting their time to other uses, and I understand that. But over the years, I think we've planted a hell of a lot of seeds out there. And one of these days, they're gonna come to fruition.
They're gonna come to fruition in some way, shape, or form, and we're gonna expose these son of a bitch and slaving pieces of Jew crap, for what they are and what they've done, and and then they're gonna be in in in some kind of anguish. Okay. I had two two there's a guy and a girl. The guy was first born. It's Nancy. Yes. Go on. Okay. Nancy, go ahead.
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I just want to finish actually what I wanted to share. I mean, so I'm using this as an opportunity to also, evaluate my own critical thinking and vetting of information. But one of the things that I've heard on the on your show, like, the guy was it was it William? The guy who had the the car, their unregistered car in his he just moved in there. But anyway, he he was really big on this, you know, I'm a national, but he didn't really get that. He signed a contract, you know, and he was obligated to fulfill that. Right. So my question around contract. So some people assert people who make the straw focus on the straw man thing and the natural living person, that they assert that the this commercial environment, you can cannot environment in interact with a natural living person. And I'm thinking, that sounds crazy. Right. But I know that I don't know everything. I don't know everything. But even as so as a, even as a serve, they're contracting.
So this argument that you're as a natural person that you have to use this ends, just this artificial legal construct, the strawman or whatever you wanna call it, as the intermediary with this commercial law. I mean, can you speak to that? I think it sounds like a load of crap. Crap. Well, I I I see that straw man, and that's I I love Mark.
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And that's, of course, his deal. Straw man, our caps, all caps. And, that's just nothing but see, they don't understand that they're serfs and what's going on, so they call it a straw man. You're either you know, back to the thing a minute ago, there's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Okay. Servitude, that's the English variety of of slavery. That's what it's called in the law books, the Lee the English variety of slavery. What really matters in there here's another thing they don't understand, property.
I'll bet you they don't understand that property is a right, not a thing because that's a colloquial way that we all look at the word property. But, technically, it's a right, not a thing. Nancy owns her car, and and the car is a thing. And and so she has the right in into the thing. Well, that's something they don't understand and comprehend. It's a slight difference, but it's really important because they look at themselves in the mirror and go, I can't be property. I mean, I don't know if they're asking themselves directly, but they don't see that because they don't understand again this legal definition that they've got a property right in you. And it doesn't necessarily mean you've got to go into the back 40 and pick cotton.
Okay? You can have the life just like you've had and all the rest of things we do and this, that, and the other. It's just that they've got a property right on you. Think about this, Nancy. And this is interesting. This is the dialectic within the dialectic. There's only two, free or you're a slave. Well, now to be free, you've got to be 100% free, don't you?
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I
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would imagine. If you're point one zero zero zero one in servitude, then you're a serf. It the percentage of the servitude doesn't matter. It matters that they've got a property right in you. Now on the other hand, on the other side, on the slave side, you've got to be 100% you've got to you know, there's a dialectic there. I'm getting screwed up. Okay. Go ahead, Paul.
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Okay. The only thing they did was they figured out a way to not have to hack off part of the plantation Sure. To house the slaves. They had them. They had to build them buildings, or they let them build buildings their own. They had to provide land. They had to provide a means for them, some sustenance in exchange for their servitude for working in the fields. The only thing they did was they figured out a way not to have to house us, but still enslave us. They're doing it through sales tax, income tax, inheritance tax, excise tax.
Yes. They're doing it. Right.
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You're paying the cost of your own slavery. They don't have to. How are they how they keep you in control? The administrative state and regulations.
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Fear. That's how they keep you in control. Yeah. And those two things. And and I'm completely on board. Right there. I'm completely on board with Gary. Uh-huh. Gary's Gary was, saying that there's there's a lot of groups out there that he believes are disinformation, and I completely agree with him. I believe that, like, the rifle associations and the second amendment associations, they are just cash cows. They are ways for people to make money, and they are a massive accumulation of a database of all of the patriotic and second amendment minded people in the country. For sure. The expatriation groups, oh, man.
They are also harvesting the names of people that are unhappy with servitude and and citizenship in The United States. And they're also promoting the fact that if you expatriate the IRS and the Social Security Administration, they ain't gonna have to give you back a damn dime that you paid so far in your entire life because you are gonna lose all connections to your homeland. You will be a man without a country.
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I I I don't know if that's correct. If you lose Social Security and stuff, you may. I don't know. I don't know the whole ins and outs of the expatriation process. Now there was somebody that just said something right there, and I think Mark was grunting over there in the background a minute ago. And so I wanna welcome you, Mark. Always been with you. I've been in this queue now for about ten minutes getting overrated. Well, I hadn't heard you I hadn't heard you say anything, Samuel, but come on forward and say what you need to.
[00:47:13] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. You know, I I wonder if these people you know, I've been around this stuff for over fifty years, and these people who say they're a journal society, I wonder if they even know what journal means because, there's a lot of good ones out there, but, you know, it really comes back down to rights and obligations as you teach Roger. Right? If you're a fourteenth amendment citizen, you got a whole bunch of different, obligations than you do if you're a state citizen. And these people, I believe, don't even know that JURO means the law and what law they're under.
And, you know, there you go. That that's the crux of the problem. They think they can be that serf, like you say, and tell the master that, he's wrong, well, they're gonna have a problem. The courts are gonna come down on them like a ton of bricks. I yield.
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Yep. Yeah. I I have one I I was gonna say one thing on that too. A lot of these groups where, where the governments come down on them, lock them up, and all this happy stuff, what they did was they tried to organize a, rebellion, as it were, against, the government or any one portion thereof. So the government, looked at them as an organized coup of sorts and insurrectionists and rebellious and sovereign citizens and all that happy hoo Okay? The only way to do this, the only way to get your freedom back is to go back to the creator, go back to God, and go back to your natural rights as an individual, as a person who is responsible for your own life, your own liberty, and your own pursuit of happiness. To hell with them trying to grant it or protect it because they're not going to.
They're going to port you in the corner as a fourteenth amendment citizen, and you are a slurf. I own you. Shut up.
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Go lay down by your face. Me a perfect you want me to give you a perfect example? And this was right out in front of by the way, I wanna talk about Barnes in a minute. It's right on one of his shows. He's announced it twice in all these, legal, affairs that he's in, the battle over Infowars, and he they tried to steal his name. They tried to say they got ownership of his name, and he went back to the thirteenth amendment involuntary servitude. And the Bad Guys Law Firm said you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Right.
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Now I wanna tell you, Barnes said last night, by by the way, you should plug him for a second on this. Yesterday, on Memorial Day, Barnes was on, the Duran. Do you know who the Duran is, Paul?
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No.
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Refresh my name. Couple of guys. One of them is English, and the other is Greek, and they have, they have a geopolitical program where they have guests on and discuss all these geopolitical events. They're highly respected, highly listened to, including JD Vance, I learned lastly, and Tulsi Gabbard. Some of those folks are avid listeners. You can go there on Bitshoot, and they're on Rumble. The Duran, d u r a n. They're friends with Barnes. He was on there for over two hours yesterday, and, boy, you wanna talk about Showcase and Barnes. I wanna thank Steven for sending me that link yesterday because I knew he was gonna be on there, but I'd forgotten it. And I still haven't gotten through the whole show, but it is a wonderful you wanna find out you think Robert Barnes doesn't understand this stuff? Boy, you go listen to that.
I mean, he is he is it's one of the showcaseiest Robert Barnes shows I've I've seen with him on there. It's fantastic. Okay? And, so, anyway, I just wanted to plug that so folks go listen to it because it's worth listening to. Who who, else was on there wanting to say something? I'm getting tripping over myself here. There was a guy. Is that Samuel? Who else is trying to say something back there a minute ago? Nobody? Or I think we got everyone. Oh, Mark. There's Mark. There's Mark. We forget Mark. Hey, buddy.
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Well, Mark is a straw man, and I and you you called straw man three times. So Yeah. You know, he was all excited about. He was all excited about hearing that more of that patriot mythology about your your, after birth. And, you know, I just wonder when they when they get that after birth that comes out after your baby's born, I mean,
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the placenta? I mean, does it got a gold fringe flag around it? And I don't know. The greatest insult is selling my straw man to a damn makeup company so they can make blush with it.
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Well, I'll tell you one thing that, really got me is, like, one of the latest things. They were trying to stretch that when you're born, you're coming through a birth canal. Oh, yeah. Right? Birth is like a ship's birth and and then. E R T. Right, right. And then and then it's a dock tour. It's a dock. So, see we're at obviously under Admiralty Law here. Because of of the birth canal and a dot tour.
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Marcy. Years ago, there was a guy in Arizona. Oh, I don't know who he was following, but it was that crap right there. And a deputy sheriff came to his house for some reason, and he went out to the gate to meet him. And they got into a discussion, and he was putting all that crap out. And the deputy end up shoot shooting him and killing him. He was a nice guy. K? But please, please, folks, if you've been into that, do the best you can to wipe all that crap out of your mind. And I quote Mark Twain, it ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so.
[00:53:36] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. That's very true. I, I feel so blessed to have come across your information, and, it's just it's it's life changing. You know, it really is. It is. And it's just But people are are in that, what'd you say, catatonic state. You know, that's one reason why why, Alex Jones says he he goes over the top. You know, if if you heard somebody say this and I thought, oh, that's so true. He sounds like a pro wrestler. You know, it's like way over the top. And somebody called him out on it, and he said, well, it's to wake up these people.
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They're walking around in a trance, and they don't even know it. You know? I don't know that you can't wake them up. And they ain't listening to Alex Jones. Well, you know? I got news for him.
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Well, look. Look. You got well, how what was it? Only about 3%, the people supported the revolutionary war? Three percent. And what's the saying that, you know, once once the, the revolutionaries were winning, then the other people supported them because they had nothing to lose. Yeah. That's that great. See, people are afraid of losing their stuff. Yep. So they they they will comply if they're under the threat of losing their stuff. And one thing I wanna bring up, Roger, talking about this Jural Society. Most people don't know that
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excuse me.
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When this is not new. Back, around the Murrah bombing, even prior to the Murrah bombing, there were these journal societies popping up all across the country. And not too long after the Murrah bombing won, all the the state militia groups just, like, disappeared. Bear with me just a sec. So the state militias, for the most part, just disappeared. They were not, you know, visible anymore. I I think a few of them just went underground. The big one was the Montana, the Montana militia up there. They called them or maybe it's Michigan. Excuse me. Michigan. Michigan. They were called mom. Yeah. So, and then around that time, there was, you know and and Dan Meador was talking about this too about setting up these special grand juries of citizens because, you know, you they weren't getting remedy.
And it went too long around that time period that almost every state passed laws from that type of activity. You you one of them, you couldn't put a lien on a on a public officer, which a lot of these people are promoting. Well, we'll just put liens on. Well, it screwed up their credit, and, next thing you know, you're you're you're facing jail time. So in the grand juries, like you said, where do you get that authority? That's so extremely important. If you don't know where what's giving you that authority, you need to put the brakes on and figure it out because you need to be able to support whatever you're attempting to do.
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Well, unfortunately, if you ask them that question, they'll point to the constitution that they don't have access to. Unbeknownst to them.
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Right. Right. So, anyway, just want to throw my 2¢ in there for these people. If you run across somebody who's trying to form a journal society, more than likely, they're violating their state's law. Mhmm. Because I know in Oklahoma, they tried that. Yeah. That's that was it. Common law grand juries, they were trying to set those up, and, at least Oklahoma and I think several other states, if not all of them, have passed laws against that.
[00:57:48] Unknown:
Well, you can go back and ask the question what what citizen's grand jury has ever accomplished anything? To my knowledge, none of them. Okay. Now let me bring the opposite story in here. Years ago, there was a guy up in North Carolina named John Ainsworth. Do you are you familiar with this, Mark? Have you heard ever heard us talk about this?
[00:58:10] Unknown:
John Ainsworth That name sounds familiar, but I don't recall what the situation was.
[00:58:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he set up the old North Carolina state. North Carolina state, not the state of North Carolina. And they had a formal government. They he was secretary of state. They held elections. They did appointed officers and all that stuff, and they went for years. And they never had any repercussions or backlashes. Now he finally something happened. He inherited some property up in Maine and left North Carolina and went to Maine. But for a number of years, that was operable, and there's some other folks that have tried that. Michigan's tried it. Colorado tried it, over the years, but the Ainsworth was the one that took it further than anybody else that I know of. K? So there is a legitimate. And by going back to the old state, you must have established your political status there by joining it.
K? So maybe there's another way to get out of it. I don't know. But the I can tell you this, to to my knowledge, we have never had a case in fourteen years where we were unsuccessful, in a in, submitting this paperwork to the head knocker. Now, Paul, you're gonna have to come out and tell our composited folks bye bye here.
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Yes. One zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago. Thank you so much for joining us for the first hour. By all means, go to the matrixdocs.com. Click on the link for Global Voice Radio, Eurofolk Radio, or free conference call. Join us live on the show. Thank you so much for joining us. If we don't see you back after the top of the hour, have a great day, and we'll catch you right back here tomorrow on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
[01:00:01] Unknown:
Bye now. So if Julie and others wanna breach these kind of groups and organizations and try and get your foot in the door, that's great. But, you know, you need to do it trying to be noncombative, and most of them are gonna be try and be combative with you, I think. I long since quit trying it. You know? I I would suggest you do it in one of the couple ways, either presenting the equivocation to them, Julie. You could have said to them, well, each of you need to ask yourself this question. Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? So you leave that right in their lap. Okay? Or you come back, like I said, there's only let's get some common ground. We agree on things. There's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave.
Is that right? Now you get agreement with that. It's important to get agreement. Is that right? Yes. Okay. Well, which one are you? Well, now they've got the hot potato right in their lap, don't they? Well, if they say I'm related to Lee Greenwood, and I'm free, and and I sing my song at every sporting event, then you you come up and go, okay. Well, if you're so free, what can you do without a license or permit or permission? Well, that puts it square in their lap. If they say, okay. I know I'm a slave. Would you like me to show you how you've become how you've enslaved yourself and how you can easily get out of it. Well, there's and, again, these are just dialectical choices.
It's very simple, but you put the onus right in their lap because they don't understand that there's two different statuses. They think there's only one. So that's my suggestion. You can go do that if you want. It's kind of fun. Did you have fun doing that, Julie? Exercising your knowledge a little bit?
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No, Julie ran No. It wasn't fun. No. It wasn't fun. I didn't really exercise, much of my authority on that call because I didn't wanna upset anybody and I was hadn't been on for a long time. I just was rather demure on the phone, but I did challenge them a little bit in the nicest way I could and they basically are saying that, you know, they don't even want to have allegiance to states, and all of that stuff. So I like I said, I invited everybody on today to hear our comments and our opinions and views on why what they're doing won't work, and I don't think anybody showed up. So I guess that just tells me something. They don't You know, it's interesting. There's somebody out there that John knows on the West Coast, and and and he was asking John's asking about
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confronting him with my stuff, and they go, oh, yeah. Roger Sales is right, but he doesn't go far enough. Excuse me? Yeah. Well What do you I like what Mark had to say? In the go ahead.
[01:03:02] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I like what Mark had to say. I mean, what this isn't square Henry ever accomplished anything. And also, you know, I haven't looked into this, but he's probably right It's against state law. And these people are setting them up as private membership associations, some of them are, and others have said they've spoken to the FBI and the military. Well, honestly, I don't trust either of those. And so, that doesn't bring me much confidence in joining any of these. But,
[01:03:29] Unknown:
you know Oh, okay. Who'd you speak to? Were you with a judge advocate with the military, with the FBI? Were you with the legal department? Because the FBI agents don't know this. Military people don't know this. I I didn't get into that. Okay. Well, see, that's a long time. That's no that's no credibility to me to make those statements. Yep. But anyway, we'll just keep trying. You you know, if you go on there again, you'll be better at it the next time. And just ask simple questions. Are you a citizen of The United States, or are you a citizen of The United States Of America, or do you think they're both the same? Maybe that's the better question.
But there's ways to approach this. You're not gonna get in any kind of fight. You can plant seeds and just let them noodle on it. Even Mark. Mark, when he was first presenting now Chuck Ward, our mutual friend, used to be a loyal listener here and participant, had been telling him about me for years. I'm not kidding you. Years. Finally, the situation came around where Mark went over there to RBN to listen to Ralph's whole slot, and there I was. But you still had to noodle on it for a couple of weeks, didn't you say, Mark?
[01:04:48] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It it, was, you know, I could kinda tell right up front, Roger, because he talked about the different court cases, which is my love language. Legal briefs and court cases that you're talking my love language. And when you you could back up what you're talking about and I was like, I think this guy's really on to something here because it just it clicked and it made perfect sense to me. And then it was when you hit the feudal system that that was, like, the last final piece of the puzzle for me that made perfect sense, and, the rest is history. I've I've been here ever since.
[01:05:32] Unknown:
Well and growing ever since. And, and you take things like Tom question for Julie. Oh, alright. Well, let's go. Who is it, Alan? Yeah. Alan, I had a question for Julie. Hi, Alan. Your email what's your email address?
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It's [email protected].
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Say it again slower.
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Beforb,grateful,grateful,four,f0r,life,lise,andand,smile,[email protected]. Sorry. It's long. We went over the See. Yesterday in the after show. That's why I'm laughing.
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Well, the the last hour of the after show was, eliminated because of the f bomb.
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Well, that was me that was me, but I paid I gave a contribute contribution to Paul for deleting that.
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Well, he didn't put he didn't put in the last dollar on on g on the, recording yet. Anyway Well, that wasn't that wasn't a contribution. It was a fine. Go ahead, Alan.
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Okay. It was it was a fine. I find I find myself for the f bomb.
[01:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to get the information out of the MSO. I'll I'll send you a text. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Tomorrow, I was gonna talk tomorrow, I was gonna talk about tomorrow, I was gonna talk about my court case. Okay. We don't know much about that, but I guess we'll find out. There's Jerry. Yes, sir.
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You know, it's pretty simple. The status of national is the only one you can find in statutes, code, or regulations. You don't find anything else about afterbirth, about, ships on a dock, anything. Birth canal. I've looked at all that stuff twenty years ago, and it's crap. They can't back it up. The only thing you can back up in this today's society is national. Plain and simple.
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Yep. I agree. Recognize it, or at least they have for fourteen years.
[01:08:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. I know. I'm probably one of the longest nationals in this call. You know?
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Could be.
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So
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I don't know. You know? All you can do is plant seeds with all these people, and don't don't go in there expecting great positive things like because that's expectations of other people. And, you know, if you go back, my father was AA. That's the main thing that makes reformed alcoholics or reforming alcoholics go back to drinking It's expectations that are unfulfilled that they have of other people. Don't have expectations of other people. Go in there realizing that they don't know this. They've never been exposed to the high end legal and information that we're talking about here. And if they don't understand that, they're not gonna understand the rest of it. You can't read that fourteenth amendment like you would normally and then go back and say there's eight legal landmines, nine legal landmines in this sentence.
They don't understand that. Okay? So it's, it's really challenging to find the right people. You just gotta put it in front of enough folks. That's all I know to tell you. Yes, Gary.
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And, Roger, I know I keep harping on this, but read the two pages of court cases where the Supreme Court ruled that US citizens are property, number one. They've ruled that US citizens have no rights access to the bill of rights. And they also a ruling in there says that they don't have they they're subject to the IRS if they can't prove that they're not US citizens. I mean, it's right there in black and white. And then the other thing you need to do is accompany that with the LIBOR code, the general orders 100. Just put them all together and you it'll everything will explain itself.
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Comments.
[01:10:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Joe. Good morning.
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Yes. The Supreme Court never has and never will rule. They express an opinion. They opine.
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Yeah. Well, that's all they can do.
[01:10:24] Unknown:
They don't rule, though.
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Yeah. They make no decision. Enforce it. Well, they can't enforce it.
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All they do is put forward an opinion. Yep. And we need to be thinking in those terms.
[01:10:40] Unknown:
Mark, you weren't on yesterday. We discussed this Supreme Court case. Did you listen to Barnes Sunday night? Part of it. I didn't I didn't make it the whole thing. You get you get through the, Supreme Court decision where Amy Conan Barrett recouzed herself?
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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They opined. They didn't decide. They opined. Okay.
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Well, she didn't do nothing but recuse herself. And
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Yeah. It's common language, Joe, and I know it's wrong, but most people refer to decisions, and they issue an opinion.
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And that's the reason that we are partly in that quandary because of.
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Well, words words create reality. There's a certain Words matter. True. Words matter. You know, I hate to sound like Rush Limbaugh, but words mean things. No. I shouldn't hate to sound like Rush Limbaugh. He was pretty darn successful. Thank you, Joe. Yeah. Mark, that was important because it was an Oklahoma derivative case.
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Yes. Yes. I followed that. One. Yeah. Very interested. Schools. Yes. We have charter schools where state funds are going to, pay towards, like, a a type of private school that's referred to as a charter school. And they this, some group in the state, I don't think it was the our education department. We got a pretty pro Christian, pro pro choice a voucher. He wants parents to have a voucher system where they can send their kids to whatever school they want. He's also putting the, fighting to try to get the Bible in every classroom as a historical document. Now all the liberals have just lost their minds over that. They went nuts. Anyway, his name is his name is Brian Walters, but I don't know if he approved it or tried to get it approved where the Catholic schools were coming in as charter schools.
And, they got blocked and so that went all the way up to the US Supreme Court. And Amy Coney Bryant, who is Catholic, recused herself. But she didn't come out and say why.
[01:13:04] Unknown:
Julie. She didn't say why she recused herself. Her once you go down to her house and ask her, will you tell her to straighten up right now?
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I'm gonna I'm gonna fly Mark up here and have Mark go talk to her. He's got the language.
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Tell her tell her you're from the sewer department. We're tired of her crap. Okay?
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What I'd really like to see is I'd like Congress to get off their butts and start impeaching these judges who are activists Hey. And they're not upholding the law. Yeah. Well They're they're coming out and making these ridiculous decisions that have nothing to do with law and everything to do with their political interest.
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Yes. And now we got APAC comes on the scene because that's how they're coming back and thwart and Trump's agenda is with their control over the house and the senate.
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Yep. Well, I think very nice
[01:14:04] Unknown:
I sent you that, but I forwarded that Duran, piece to Yeah. I haven't had a chance to watch it. Him. I'm sure you haven't. Boy, does he go off on Lindsey Graham on that? Evidently, there's a power circle in Charleston of and there's a lot of defense spending in South Carolina and that they're the ones that are getting him elected. So, Bruce, your your your state is corrupt down in Charleston. Yes, Joe.
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Did you ever stop to think what it may be like if Donald Trump decided that maybe the Supreme Court did not decide anything, that all they did was issue an opinion?
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Well, that's coming.
[01:14:59] Unknown:
That's coming, Joe. You know, like a freight train. So why don't why don't we use opinion instead of decision? Because that changes the whole paradigm.
[01:15:09] Unknown:
Well It's true. They they're trying to exercise power they don't have. And and they're gonna confront Trump, and Trump's gonna go, alright. Just like Andrew Jackson did, the picture he has in his office, by the way. Okay. That's your decision. Let him enforce it.
[01:15:27] Unknown:
Yeah. They they have no enforcement. It's all it's all whether you're going to to honor their opinion or not. If you're gonna go by their opinion, And it seems like that's pretty when you get to that level, like like Roger said, how are you gonna enforce it? Because they don't have an enforcement branch from the US Supreme Court.
[01:15:52] Unknown:
Nope. Just like this Murray guy up in Massachusetts. You hear about that, Mark, last week? They they had a flight of seven or eight. Well, they're first degree murders and and and the whole thing. And they were taking them back to Somalia, I think, which is down in Africa. They got marshals. They got them out of the country, and then this judge, Murray, rules they've got to bring them back. But in the interim, they gotta give them, like, ten thirty days of of of of of place to stay and food, and they gotta interrogate them and all this stuff. And there's other, US Officials on take get taking them back down there. And, evidently, what I did hear was that Murray did this decision without knowing the, crimes they committed.
So we'll probably hear more about that this week. But a one Right. District court judge in one part of Massachusetts, you know, northern, southern, eastern, western, whatever, can do an injunction on the whole country. Now there's a bunch of supreme court decisions about to come out. This is when they release all these opinions, like Joe says. They're gonna release all these opinions on all these cases they've heard because then they go on summer recess, and they don't reconvene until October. First week in October is when the Supreme Court will reconvene. So in the next couple of weeks, we're likely to see a whole bunch, the birthright citizenship decision, the, injunctions impacting the national, the the whole country decision and all these things. We're gonna see them in the next couple of weeks. So we it might be fertile discussion ground here from that aspect.
But that's coming. Okay? And, we'll see if Trump is gonna honor them, what they are first, if he's gonna honor them, or if he's gonna say enforce it. Enforce it while you're off on vacation, especially.
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I was I think I heard somebody say that that Trump administration was under, like, 200 different lawsuits throughout the country. Yeah. You know, so and and these little federal district courts, they're shopping for these venues too. So, you know, they they as as Barnes pointed out, they just happen to get the the activist judge that they wanted, you know, this Murray guy. And it's just it's sickening, and I'm hoping the opinion from the US Supreme Court, really shoots them down from making little district courts making decisions that affect the entire nation.
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Well, Biden I just don't see how they can get away with that. Biden didn't honor the Supreme Court. He wanted to give all those student loan, get out of jail free card. And the Supreme Court said no, and they came back and did it anyway, did it again.
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Yeah.
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So Yeah. Not not unusual, but it it you I wanna hear what they gotta say, but when you're a bunch of wackos putting out this garbage and Amy Conan Barrett, what a disappointment that woman is. And, unfortunately, we're stuck with her for decades.
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Well, not unless somebody wants to impeach them like that Ketanji Brown. That lady is just comes right out and and says she's an activist for the most part. Her actions, I should say. Her actions and her opinions clearly don't show that she supports the law. It's it's all about, you know, quote, fairness and, you know, what her political agenda is. Unfortunately, the way they got everybody controlled in Washington DC, you know, it's it's just it's the swamp. And and there are almost every one of them are controller. They wouldn't be in office. Yep. Come out of the sink in for a little bit.
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We can remove ourselves from all their crap. Yep. Let it sink in. Anybody in the audience out there? Excuse me. Martin, you got you wanna finish up?
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I'm just saying that, you know, it's hard not to follow it because I've followed it for all my life. Yeah. But as a national, it doesn't, for the most part, directly affect me. That's the main thing to remember. Keep in mind that all these federal laws and regulations, you know, they're they're for the for the most part don't involve you. They don't, you know, they they don't apply to you. So you hear, You know, it's it's nice to keep an eye on it, but we don't have to, like, super dwell on it because, again, it it, you know, it doesn't apply to us, but it's interesting to see how it applies to those fourteenth amendment citizens.
[01:20:52] Unknown:
How you barn Barnes on Sunday night, one of the things that came down last week, I didn't hear about it except on his show, Did an executive order. There's no more criminal charges that can be brought because of a Yes. Regulation? Regulation. Okay. Now here's our question. What about failure to file?
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I would say the same thing. It's a regulation.
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So, and there's the teeth. You see, this is what Trump is doing to him. He's taking their teeth out by things like this. No more criminal charges for regulation that isn't obeyed. Okay? Well, that's their teeth. Alright? Everything has to go through the administrative state because they've set this up or you're all gonna be slaves and nobody would have found the little loophole we found to get out of the pen. Okay? And so these regulations apply to everybody, especially ones with general applicability. And, we don't have to follow that anymore. That's what we do. We get ourselves out of all of their applications.
The only way they can enforce that is administratively. If they sign the the so we're still on the underlying treaty with the WHO. I know Trump pulled us out of it, but he hadn't pulled us out of the basic treaty that got us in there is my understanding. Okay? Well, if they tried to enforce that, the only way they can enforce it is administratively. We don't have any contact with the administrative agencies. We free ourselves from that. And that's the way they do everything because they figured nobody would ever figure their scam out and be able to get out of it. And we have, and we're out of it. And they recognize it for fifteen years.
So that may not mean anything to you, but it sure speaks loudly from a federal government. And see, here's their deal. They're so hypersensitive of somebody. I think that they understand how tenuous their hold is here, Mark. And that so over the years, anybody that stands up, they're gonna try and knock you down as quick as possible because they don't want that spreading because they're very, very aware of their tenuous hold. Okay? Well Right. We we've gotten around that. And so for fourteen years, that's their MO. If somebody pops up, they knock them down so that it doesn't grow. Well, they hadn't done shit to us for fourteen years. What does that tell you?
It's just like you go back to John and Glenn. Thirty something years ago, they came in after they'd been teaching less than six months and raided all three of their offices. The IRS doesn't act that fast anything, much less thirty three years ago. So that told us at the time they're onto something here. It was a great motivator and instigator for us to look further. And here we are. Thank thank the Lord for me. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but those other 1,200 people, the other 1,199, nobody did anything with it. They all dropped off to the side because they were there for the tax reason.
I didn't have a tax problem. I was there for as a truth seeker. I think that's the reason I continue right there. Roger. K. So for whatever, thank you lucky stars, is that somebody faintly saying Roger? Yeah. It's it's a sketch,
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Steven.
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Okay. Sketch where you guys talk if you can get us in a better position, we can hear you. Can you hear can can you hear me now? Better. Yes.
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Okay. I wanted to comment on Barnes, a couple things. He one of the interesting points he made with the Durand was that, you know, the British, majesty courts were basically spokesman for the king. Yes. That was an interesting one. Administrators for the yes. And and and he compared our courts that they were set up not to do that and that they have become a part of the deep state and administrative, system. And I just thought that was great great point that he made. Also, his historical his historical perspective and, he's very well read, and he he formed his he formed his opinions, like, right out of the bat, and it's amazing his recall when in that in that, conversation they had.
And the other thing I wanted to mention was his well, you mentioned, administrative state, that when he did the, deportation of the the worst of the worst, and he kinda set up the courts, you know, saying, oh, you're gonna defend these guys? And he used that as a political tool
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to change the view of the populace. I thought that was interesting. Mhmm. Well, they've gone so far wacko that you can literally set them up like bowling pins on every one of these issues. Oh, you're gonna defend trans people raping girls in lab bathrooms. Well, that's interesting. What's your defense for that? That was quite interesting. And basically for the audience, he said that, Alexander who's, there there's two guys there. One of them had been involved in the court systems in England and in France. And they brought the point up that when that king's bench if you're sitting in the king's bench and you're in front of one of those judges, that judge is the king because he represents the king. Okay? So it's interesting that that I wrote Mark. I said barn showcased.
I don't know that I've ever seen him put in a position where he can roll like that. And your his recall is phenomenal to me. And his knowledge and insight on all these things is phenomenal. He'll bring up some things. What was he brought up last night? One of the background. Oh, I can tell you. The background on the Derek Chauvin case. Isn't that right? Isn't that his name? That was good. The cop? Yep. Yeah. That was really good. You heard that, Mark?
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Yes. I did. That was mind blowing.
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And and so here's all and I would have been with him if I wouldn't have been privy to this information. He went, let it loose the other night. I thought Griffin was, you know, really kind of railroaded. Right? Well, turns out there's two cases. There's a state case and a federal case. He pled guilty to the federal case, so he never went to trial. And he's in a federal prison, not a state prison. Isn't that right? Well, it must be in the well, I I don't know because he was stabbed I don't know what. One time I don't know. Prison. Can I comment on that, Roger? I I guess you can, Dave. You wanna go ahead? He's in a federal prison,
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and he pleaded guilty because he'd been stabbed 11 times in the state prison. They were trying to murder him. So he pled guilty to the federal charges so he could get the hell out of the state so they he was safer.
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Right. And if if if Trump pardons him, Trump can only pardon the federal charge. That would automatically throw him back into state prison where they're gonna kill him probably. But his background his background is for eight he's got 18 complaints, civil rights complaints for basically beating the hell out of people from 14 to 46 or something. He has got a really, really bad background that nobody knows about. Hold on, Dave. Let me finish. We'll have a dialogue here. Okay. He's got all this baggage in his background that nobody knows about because he plead guilty. It never came out in trial. Now, Dave Now me? Okay. Yes.
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You know, the Boston the Boston Marathon, he was one of the players in that situation.
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Okay? Did Chauvin? He was
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yes. Chauvin was one of the guys working for the the contractors with the backpacks and all that crap. He was a player in that. And I'm telling you, this guy has been working for the feds, for the deep state for a long, long time.
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Well, it just he goes into the background.
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That Floyd that Floyd deal, Floyd didn't die. He didn't beat up Floyd. That was a dummy that that that they he had his his knee on his back. That was all, a dummy. That they couldn't even get him out of the car. The you know, they got all the video of that.
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That was proper police procedure they'd been taught to to do to treat him like. Right. But but it really wasn't even that dude. That dude was like,
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that Floyd dude I don't know. Guys worked together in a club. I supposedly, they did. Bouncer. Floyd was the bouncer, and Chauvin was the security guard at that club.
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And they knew each other well. Evidently, he was a lot more than the security guard. He was involved in all this nefarious other stuff. Okay? Yeah. I just brought it up to try and go in. I don't wanna rehash all the background, but I would have thought the guy of initially, my feelings were, yeah, let's pardon him. But, boy, after Barnes got finished with that, I hell well, no. You know? Anyway, just an illustration of a lot of stuff. Those two barns, Saturday night and especially the Duran yesterday, which I still haven't finished, are worth listening to. Yeah. Boy, Barnes is just such a specimen. And who does he keep coming back to on all of these issues? Alex Jones.
Why weren't who are Patel and whoever the other guy is? Bongino. Dan Bongino. Why have Bongino. They ever on Alex Jones? Yeah. Bongino. Why weren't they ever on Alex Jones? And he keeps coming back. Do you know how much of the audience of The US Jones has? I didn't know this till last night. It's huge. 10%. Alex Jones has got 10% of the audience in The US. That is mammoth, folks. For one little guy that started in public broadcasting and has built that whole thing, that's quite no matter what you think, Alex, boy, that is that's not something that's easy to do, especially with him after him all these years.
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I wonder if he got the Streisand effect from them suing him at Sandy Hook to shut him down. You know, now now it's all it's all across the nation about how they're trying to shut this guy down and take away his company and even wanna take away his name. Yeah. And, I think a lot of people are like, well, what's that all about? You know? And they probably started tuning in.
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I mean, don't forget, they tried to up the fine in Connecticut to more a $1,750,000,000,000 fine? More than the GDP of frigging India?
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Wow.
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Okay. They're desperate. He's really hurting them, man. It is. And, we'll see. He's got a big court, thing next week, I think, in Houston, and they're gonna expose all of the nefarious things that the DOJ has been doing to him, that they've got copious amounts of criminal stuff evidently. Very interesting. A lot of things playing out right now. We'll be exposed to them, pretty quick. It seems to me that they're planning a big shenanigans this summer. So, boy, I hope all of you, for the most part, are out of a city, and, they they may really pull a big trigger this summer. K?
So we'll see. We'll see. Anybody in the audience got some comments to all this dialogue here? Many new students out there with questions that wanna come forward.
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Roger?
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Yes, Julie?
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I read a lot of stuff about, this summer and all the plans they have. And it's I have faith over fear, but it's, I think a reality. You have all these sleeper cells that came into our country, all men, single, of military age. So many people on YouTube have done, have tracked these people where they go. You've got too many channels like Sean Ryan's channel on YouTube where he interviewed, Jane Doe who has connections inside Al Qaeda, who has a book out called Al Qaeda two point zero that I read and they're planning something big in this country. And so I again, you know, we can just help and pray that this doesn't happen, but be prepared. And then they've got the mRNA, that just rolled out, for mock.
That was, an interview between Mike Adams recently and the medical rebel or Lee Merritt. That's on bright u. Tv, I think it is. And, just too many of people coming out, even doctor David Martin, his recent interview,
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shows that they have something big planned for the summer. So I yield. Yep. Yep. I'm I'm, you know, right in their MO to do that. They got no other choice. And for the most part, they've been real quiet, haven't they? I mean, a couple of exceptions, but they've been pretty quiet. They're planning something.
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Just be ready. Yeah. They they're they're definitely planning something. We're getting bombarded every single day with, chemtrails, poisonous water, poisonous food. I have 27 cancer causing contaminants in my water. And, you know, every month you get a nice little statement in from your water authority company telling you how safe your drinking water is.
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Really? Yum yum. Unbelievable. Yum yum. So hell of a time. Best thing you can do is follow the biblical directive and come out of her, my people. Come out of her. And we got the way for you.
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Roger? And, yes. Yes. Yes, Julie? I got a, I get I I have a couple of people who are from overseas, and everybody, we hear about everything taking place between Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Iran and all of this stuff. The situation in Iraq right now is just so bad right now. They have, they have shut off the water, and all the people who live in rural areas have been cut off from electricity, and water levels from the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers
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have They're just about dry. They
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have to close all the dams, and and Iran and Turkey are no longer, supplying the water and people are taking to the streets in demonstrations every day. That's And then there's It people who are close to the city, and the electricity is on for, like, two hours, and then it shuts off for five hours. And they get water delivered to them every four days. And this is from a guy who lives in this area, and it just it's so vulnerable to the one
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world order. Take a breath. Take a breath, Julie. You say this is in Iraq? Yep. Okay. Well, we hadn't heard about that. First, I've heard about that. Wouldn't surprise me. No. No. They're they're about to have civil war in Israel. Israel's pretty close next door. I guess Jordan's in the way. But, I'd hopefully, Trump's little trip over there kinda given the Arab world the attaboy or two, is is going to help us everybody out. All it does is piss Netanyahu off, of course. Boy, what a world these damn Jew bastards have created for me. I know what I wanted to talk about. I spent about two hours yesterday.
I've gotten on a e Michael Jones kick the last few days. Now, Julie, are you familiar with e Michael?
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I'm familiar with him, but I have not followed him, and I've not been on any of his,
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social media. Of course, he comes from a totally Catholic bent, and disregard that if you're not Catholic. And, but e Michael Jones, boy, he's got a handle on the history on these folks. I mean, real firm. And I listened to I would just I heard Paul mentioning him. I was listening to Paul's old shows the other day, Paul. And he was mentioning he'd stumbled on an e Michael Jones that he was listened to. And Cromwell came up, and he said something on Paul's show over there, Paul English live, that I'd never heard. The people hated Cromwell so much that after they killed him, they put his body in a cage, hanging him, and they left him hanging until his body separated from his head.
K? But that got me stimulated. I've listened to E. Michael over the time. He's really on top of this Jewish issue.
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And, we want to we want to make Cromwell's head fall off again. Hey. Look at there. There's Paul. Hey, buddy.
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Hi. So I almost sent you this last night. I went over to Bitchute and put in any Michael Jones. Hell, there's a bunch of stuff over there. And, one of them is they've republished the Goyim's Guide to History. Have you ever seen that? No. As a Goyim, should I get it? Yes. You need to listen to it. It's two hours long on all this background. Most of it you probably never heard before. K? It's spectacular. Actually, is it new or is it relatively old? It's old, but they've gone Yeah. I've heard it. Somebody I've got it somewhere in my library. Yeah. It's good. It's a good Well, they've about three I think there were three shows in it whether or something like this for you. All into one. They've merged it all, and they've cleaned up the audio evidently. So if you go to Bitshoot and put in e Michael Jones, they republished it, and it's the second or third option. It's a Goy's Guide to History, about two hours long. Wow.
All I can say is wow. Hey, Paul. Welcome, man.
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Hey. Hi. I just thought, you know, I heard you talking about surfs. I thought, oh, they're talking about us a lot over here. So, you know, surfs up, basically. Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. I know my place.
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But the I if that guy's guide to history is I gotta admire e Michael Jones. I mean, I know he's, you know, hell bent for Catholic. But, and he really pans the Protestants,
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which may not be wrong. Oh, he does. Oh, I was shuddering.
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You said, you know, Protestants are white boys that don't go to church anymore. And I said, why would we go to church? All the churches are corrupted through the World Council of Churches.
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That was exactly my thought as well. Yeah. What are you going to one of those places for? They're all wolves in sheep's clothing. You know, I'm not against the idea of churches. I just want mind one actually existing. And he's So, they're a joke. You know? The Protestant
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revolution resolution was a a bunch of white boys rising up and stealing all the Catholics' property, which I'm not sure the Catholics didn't steal it in the first place either. So
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it's very interesting. Well, he's right. Yeah. That is what happened. It's a bad it's a bad it's a rum dude. There's no two ways about it. But I think there's a lot of influences in it, which I'm sure he's aware of. He must be. I mean, you know Please. So all of that thing with Henry the eighth, it's, you know maybe I've mentioned when I've been on here before, I kinda look at that as a sort of that's the starting gun for the collapse. It really is. Although, certainly, you know, Belloc, who writes was also an ardent Catholic over here who I rate very highly. He's great. He's really good as Belloc. He says, no. The fault lines were already developing within Catholicism in the late thirteen hundreds, and they weren't. They develop in every single institution we've ever had, these fault lines. Every single one, they always develop.
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The pope the Catholic church was not aware of the Babylonian Talmud until December. It had been in existence five hundred years, And finally, the pope Gregory or whoever it was, somebody turned him on to the Talmud, and that's when a a lot of fur started flying right there. Yep. That's very, very interesting history here.
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Yeah. It is. It's it's I mean, there's I think it boils down to a fundamental fight that's been going on for thousands of years. You either go through the portals of the Temple Of Mammon or you go through the portals of the temple of God. You Yep. And it's very difficult to live down here without some kind of an interaction with the monetary system, and that's where it's all become abused, you know. And, you know, so I am like a broken record. I apologize. I'm always saying this, but there you go. At least I'm comfortable I'm comfortable with it because I know it's true. Well Yeah. Yeah. And it it it helps some new people, I think, to realize
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this is an age old battle. This isn't something that just started here in the fourteenth amendment. This is an age old battle of these people coming and following their holy book and saying we have a right to enslave everybody. They've been history slavers. Go listen to David Duke's video on the history of Jewish slavery. Even in the middle ages, there was one chief Jew in Europe, and he had all the slave trade. This is their stock in trade, just slavery.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, it's almost their stock in trade. Is there anything that's, rooted in Christian law, they're a guinea Yes. By almost like as a sort of reactive adolescent child having a tantrum. And that's how I view a lot of it. It's highly intelligent tantrum, but it's a tantrum nonetheless.
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And it's always a, well, you did this to my grandfather, so I'm gonna do all this to you.
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Yep.
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It is. And and you come back, and the thing is I did this to your grandfather because he screwed me out all this money and stole my house. They never look at the original, shot that's fired or the the original hit. It's always the second one. Okay? Mhmm. And they become quite skilled at it. It's just like a match, any kind of a match. The referee doesn't see the first elbow, but he sees the guy that got elbowed throw a punch, and he blames him, and he gets the penalty. Same It's true. Type thing. Yeah. Mhmm.
And and and they've got this blood feud with the Arabs going on for God knows how many thousands of years.
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Well, I think I think they kinda play good cop, bad cop, actually, to be to they use them. They use one another. Basically, the one thing that they've got in common is they wanna wipe out Christians.
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That's it. I can't disagree. Yeah. Come out of her, my people. Come out of her. So, anyway, Paul, well, thanks for I'm glad we, chummed you up, buddy.
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Always love to have you come by and discuss these things with us. And they're probably I was trying to hop in a bit earlier, but something popped up here. I don't know why. I was just, I've been, plowing around doing things and having a good couple of days here, doing all sorts of boring tests, but they're getting tidied up. You know what it's like? It's a bit like, you know, when you sort out your your laundry basket and things. I've been doing a lot of things like that. I'm feeling really rather good about it, actually. That's how small things are, but it's good. It's good. It frees energy up to do other things. And, Yeah. I mean, we've had, the last ten days or so over here have just been madder than ever. And I so I'm assuming they're gonna get even more unhinged and insane because they tend to be going that way.
And it's, yeah. These are the times that, unfortunately, we live in. Yep. Did I hear that Starmer's bringing you back into the EU? Yeah. I think he's already thinks he's done it. I mean, may you know, the the in a way, is that a problem? Well, it it is a is a problem, but it does illustrate the point, not that people like you and your audience need to have it illustrated. The the idea that democracy gives you a say in the management of your nation is just a hilarious fiction. It's complete nonsense. And, you know, but most people want the penny won't even drop with them. I think it's to do with, like, this inertia of compliance with authority.
You you got it in churches, for a long time. People ended up really following the church as opposed to following scripture directly. And so, you know, those English types actually turning the Bible into English was actually a big blow for all that nonsense. Yeah. But that said, the Protestant church is no better or no worse than the Catholic church, you see. Because I I think that's what it is. People become ardent followers of a particular church system, and you don't need to. Yep. Yeah. And I think the real English people and probably, therefore, by extension, those people that came from these islands and and sort of formed the basis of all the good law that you've got in America, we're not like that. We just but we're mockers. We go, you no. You're up your bum all the time. I mean, I grew up with that all the time. No one believes these people. Not real people on the ground, but in their fictional world, which, of course, they're able to project massively because of their control of the media. Yeah. People sort of think, oh, it must be like this. Everybody else must be thinking like this. I, therefore, must think like this. And so they followed all sorts of complete nonsense and gibberish, you know. So it's, and it's very dangerous stuff.
Obviously, it's very dangerous because people have got out of the habit of actually questioning authority. They don't do it. Yep. They just complain. That's
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why I say, you know, people say, well, I think this. Well, you don't think anything. All you're doing is reacting to how you've been programmed.
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That's right. So don't tell me you're thinking. Thinking is not easy. You're you're regurgitating
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like Polly want a cracker.
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Mark
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Rock. Yep. Spot. It's a rare occasion when we've got our good friend Paul English on here. Is there anybody in the audience that would like to ask Paul a question or make a comment? You know, what's the reason we're here, folks? This guy right here is the reason No. The reason we're here is because of god. It's not making it. Alright. You you gave us the mechanism to be here.
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K? Oh, I love it. I love a nice mechanism, Roger. You know me. I'm a bit of I've got a weak spot for mechanisms. But yeah. I was you were talking about the first hour there, you know, about, the lack of interest or the perceived interest or whatever from certain clusters and people and individuals Yes. I you know, it's I spend more time thinking about that than anything else because you're looking I'm looking for a mechanism. There might not be one, you know, that would ignite more people more rapidly. It's just to increase the rate of growth. Yep. I suppose everybody that gets involved in anything like this, of course there's nothing really like this because we're we're trying to return, I would suggest, to the true operations of the law as given to us is extremely frustrating. But, I I think, you know, there's that thing in scripture where, where is it? I don't know. Thessalonians or something like that? Look at me. I'm quite in chapters now. It's it's getting out of hand with me. Uh-oh. That bit about I will send them a great delusion.
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Oh, that's why I'm here. Yeah. They'll they'll believe a lie.
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Yeah. And I think those that are in that yeah. Those that are in that delusion, they're gonna remain in it and they'll get, you know, progressively more and more punished by it. At least Yep. I know we are punished by it by the frustration of not being able to get through to people to this at the speed that we would like to with all of these things. And that this is a great communications challenge. It's not for one of the lack of truth. It's for knowing, I think. My thing is, how do I parcel it so it can be consumed? I'm thinking about this a lot. You know, like, the other week you had Brent on. He was talking about Charles Hadding Spurgeon, you know, this great English preacher in the eighteen hundreds. And I think when I came in, I mentioned that Spurgeon has written something like 3,800 sermons and each one's 10 pages long. That's 38,000 pages of sermons.
And you think, now there might be all the truth in the world in this. There probably is. There's probably so much beneficial things on which to stimulate your thinking that obviously I haven't got a lifetime. I'm not gonna be able to hear them all or read them all and it's unlikely that I will. But then I think about, people whose lives are overwhelmed by the great distractathon, as I call it, you know, the the nature of human living. There's no way there's no way that they they even know that those sermons are ever gonna exist, let alone read them. Most people don't even know that they exist. They're not even looking for that stuff. And even if they did, they're not gonna sit down and read even one of them. It's 10 pages. So it's it's to do with the times that we live in and sort of the Yes. The way that we're buffeted around from one drama after another has become what people think is life. And I guess, therefore, it has to some degree. It's this great drama.
How do you get people away from that? And, you know, we we we're right to berate people and say, turn the TV off and do these things. But we gotta I think we have to offer something else. I mean, you're mentioning E. Michael Jones. Right? His books are enormous, and they're fantastic. You know, I think the Jewish revolutionary spirit is about 1,400 pages or something like that. Wow. He's written one on and I've read that. I I lent that out to two people who couldn't read. He said, I can't read it. And I'm going, right. Apart from being cross that they couldn't read it, I just thought this is not gonna work, you know. And you've gotta bear in mind if you can plow through things like that, which I think, you know, the more people that can, the better because, it improves your powers of concentration and stitching all of the information together. You think, oh, I can't deal with this. Yeah. You can. You can.
But you can't if you don't spend any time reading. And I look out there and most people don't spend any time reading. So otherwise, I've gotta be found, but,
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it's worth pounding away no matter what. There there was a survey in US. I'll get you a second. Dave, there was a survey in The US recently, Paul. Fifty three percent of the people surveyed could not read past the sixth grade level, and twenty one percent were totally illiterate. How do you expect them to read 1,400 pages?
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How do you expect them to understand what you're talking about? Hey, boys. This is another thing. I don't. I don't. I don't wanna say. But Yeah. You I keep standing back. They've got nothing to fit it into. I think I You can I meant I've yeah? Sorry. You can present the the best way we found is to present the equivocation
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to them backwards. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a citizen of The United States Of America? And that simplifies it. They can bite that off. And if they don't bite and wanna learn more, you plant a seed, pray for them, and go on, find somebody else. You do do not waste your time trying to beat those people up. All it's gonna do is call cause, consternation, and you're probably gonna end up with an enemy instead of an associate. Okay? Because I've I've been down this road. I know how it works. Okay? Dave, you were trying to say something a minute ago. What did you have on your mind? Yeah.
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I got a couple things. You know, even our congress, Roger, remember they they would say, an attorney, a black guy from Michigan. I can't think of his name right now, but he said, the bill's 3,000 pages. You gotta have an attorney to read it and decipher it. We can't read it. We just sign it.
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Right? Yep. That's right. Or Nancy Pelosi saying, we'll find out what's in the bill after we pass it.
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Right. So that's what we're dealing with here. Now now Paul mentioned, good old kink Charles. He's over here on our continent today. He they said this is breaking news. They said he'll be addressing the Canadian parliament from the throne in Canada. Now I'm picturing this guy sitting on the Louvre with his pants down around his ankles, and he's gonna be dressing down. Canada's not for sale. That's why he's coming here to tell Trump that Canada's not for sale.
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Well, talk to the Western provinces. You know? Talk to the Western provinces. It's like somebody said they were out there on Calgary.
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In Canada. It was I don't know Canada had a problem.
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Well, Canada, Martin Armstrong was up there talking to a bunch people in Calgary. That's in Calgary, Alberta. That's one of the rebel provinces. And somebody said, well, that doesn't flag doesn't represent us. All the maple trees are back east.
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That's true. That is true. So But see, we don't have thrones in in in America. The throne, it's the the lube in in England. Right? The lube is the toilet for those that don't know. So Yes. I just I had to laugh when I heard that on the radio today. We've got an interpreter.
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You know? What did Winston Churchill say? A a related people separated by a common language. Something like that.
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Yeah. It is. There is that.
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Thank you. There's that. Thank you. Paul, what a pleasure to have you drop by, my friend.
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No. It's it's fine. I mean, that thing about that that, that was just mentioned there about this 3,000 page thing. I mean, when you think about it, who is compiling things that are that long? Who can afford to do that? Well Yeah. Yeah. The the whole it's ludicrous. Cons the art of concision and getting to the point has been intentionally lost because you're then absolutely exhausted by their infinite capacity to over communicate.
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Yeah. It's just And it and it's pointless. That's what they're trying to do is to get the congress to put in bills one one issue at a time instead of these omnibus 1,500 page bills with everything but the kitchen sink in it. Paul. Yes.
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Paul, do you Yeah. It's either a bill mill, a company that hires hundreds of people just for creating the bills, or they spit them out with AI with everything but the kitchen sink contained between the covers.
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That's it. Well, there's a group of people behind the scenes that write these things, and, and and then they go to whatever congressmen give it to them and say sponsor it. But there's a bunch of people behind the scenes that write these things they know. They can take these words that are so critical and make sure that's the right word in there and all that kind of stuff. By the way, the law dictionary they use, as my understanding, they use the 1917 Bovier's law dictionary back there in that group for whatever that's worth.
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As as the Romans will want to say, the proliferation of law is the end of civilization.
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We don't need anymore. There's no Very good.
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It's the jots and tittles. Right? Nothing to be added. Nothing to be taken away. So because it's not being paid attention to the actual fundamental simplistic law, it is relatively simple. Yes. But it of course, it it throws a spanner in their works of trying to create all this globalist structure. It's
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not for that. I don't know. Oh, my view of sports. I know you I don't know what SpaceX is. That's a a company that shoots up satellites for the government.
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Right. Paul, you've heard Brent a lot. Have you ever Brent is he's such a godsend to break these very complex things down into real simplistic either or situations. Have you ever heard his statements on the law that there's only two groups of law, law of the land, law of the city? And and the law of the land, we're involved with process. We emphasize process because if the process is followed, the outcome will be correct no matter what. Okay? Yep. In the law of the city, they emphasize the outcome, not the process. The process is used to achieve the outcome they desire. There's your difference. Right? They're plain, simple, and understandable.
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Yep. Yeah. That's true. It's absolutely true. I mean, the laws are very simple. They're not even very long. I mean, I'm just going back to the 10 commandments. But because they're not applied, you've got all this basically, the whole of the legal profession is a massive expensive band aid process. Talking about complete nonsense, no one can actually come up with a decision. Oh, we've got to consider this. No, you don't. What does it say? Right? Just do that. Anybody fancy living, you know, the anybody fancy actually living by the law as opposed to this stuff that you're just making up? It's a factory that makes stuff up. And, of course, you could say it's the script for next month's, news drama because it's all drama.
It is. And it works because of that what is it? That psychological proclivity that we all have, apparently, and we do, that we are much more attracted by negative scary news than we are about boring stuff. Nobody actually made a newspaper spin saying everybody's happy. There's no no problems. Come back next week. They all go, this is boring. Yeah. You know, people want drama.
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They talk about the adhering to the law. Well, which law? There's a bunch of different kinds of laws. Do you know, Paul, that Rome for the first two hundred years was run on 12 tablets? It's probably when they laid the foundations in of all their strength, to be quite honest. That that was when they were under basically a common law situation. We know they had the 12 tablets. We've not we don't know what was on them, but we know they had them, and they adhered to them. Basically, probably like the 10 commandments, I would think. And then it was the intrusion of the merchants bringing in this merchant code with their easy self help remedies that the Roman citizens kept going to the pray to him. We want that remedy. We want that remedy. We don't have to go to court. And over a period of two hundred years, year by year, they gradually gave him a little bit more and then they incorporated the self help remedies along with the Babylonian code into the Roman law. And that's what became the Roman civil law, which is what our United States code is. It's a melding of these two groups of laws and remedy force that. So interesting history. It repeats.
We'll see you tomorrow, and thanks for being with us. Hopefully, you, pick something up today. And maybe if you're lurking, maybe tomorrow, you'll be not scared enough to come out and say hello. We'd love to meet you. See you soon regardless. Ciao. Ciao. Alright. So Paul will dink us off. Paul, have you heard of all these hold on a second, Larry. All these hits we've been getting, not only at our our website, but through Dave and Kaye, who've got their own website, they're getting thousands of of hits from all over the world, including United Nations. Good. Yeah. Interesting. Good.
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Yeah. I I it's I think it's a matter of well, I'm thinking it's a and I could be wrong. But just boiling these things down, I've got to be able to say them to a man in the pub. I've got twenty seconds with him. That's about it, really. Yep. And and I mean it. And I I think, we might be getting there because it's basically you've got to ignite the emotional outrage in people. They they can't hold on to it long because they're pacified by something almost immediately. Beer, sport, whatever. Right? They go they're back into the funk really quickly. Right. But it is it's slowly happening, you know. And I don't know whether you can appeal to sort of their courage or whatever. I'm sure it's there, but it's so covered in dust they've even forgot what it is, at the moment.
They're just exhausted. Most people are exhausted intentionally so that they don't have too much spare energy to pay any attention to things. I'm too pooped to turn up to the meeting. I can't do this. You know? Thoreau
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Thoreau that said most men lead lives of quiet desperation.
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They do. They do. Oh, gosh. Do you think he was talking about us?
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No. I think we're out of that. We're out of that. We lead lives of noisy desperation. I'm very noisy and vocal about it. Yeah. We lead lives of trying to right wrongs and and expose truth. Larry, you were trying to say something. Here's a real truth exposure right here, Paul. Larry down in Jacksonville. What you got, buddy?
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Yeah. A few minutes ago, you mentioned that the law of the land deals with process, and the law of the city deals with seeking the outcome first. And this is what I asked you about the other day, but you were too I guess you were sick, and you didn't wanna get into it. But could you give me an example of both those scenarios?
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I think, you know, that's Brent's statement. I wish you'd ask him. I I mean, okay. Of it.
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That okay. Go ahead. I I will ask him Friday. I will.
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I can give you an example of it. Used to be when law meant law, they would discover a crime, and through investigation, they would find the guilty party. Now, even going down to the simple interactions with, a traveler and a cop on the side of the road, the cop finds a person, finds a name, and just goes hunting for something to hang on them. They go looking for a climb a crime.
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Well, what this is the Soviet. Show me the man, and I'll I'll show you the crime.
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Exactly. And it meant the law of the city is, they have a desired outcome. The the the judiciary wants to put the handcuffs on somebody, and they will use whatever process necessary to achieve that.
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Okay. That'd be a good question for Brent, Larry. Alright. Hold on. Who is a may I guy? You and Brent. Paul? Beaner?
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Yes. Beaner. His what the example he just gave.
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I I I I guess so. Just well, let's wait and ask for him on Friday and get his read on that. I believe he's absolutely accurate. We'd I I think that's a wonderful comparison. Ask him, Larry. Okay? It's his statement. Now there was a guy and a girl there wanting to say something. Let's take the guess. Who's a female? Alright. Hold on. Maybe first. We're gonna go with ladies first. Ma'am, there was a female there, I think, wasn't there? Going, going, gone. Go ahead. Who was the guy? Well, let's see why he's
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qualified immunity qualified immunity. Wouldn't you say the IQ level was less than lower than 100 for a police officer?
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Would you say I'd say that? Well, I've heard that from the cops themselves.
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That they deliberately seek these, lower than a hundred IQ people.
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They would not let them hire anyone with an IQ above 100. Yes. Was that your comment, Wahid?
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Yeah. I was just I I wanted to reflect on that because, I I was trying to think of it. I was trying to think of the when I was talking to a friend about how what causes this reaction in these people, you know, that should cause it? Because I look at a lot of the, what they call the police auditor videos, and you said in the past, do not do that. Do not ever to approach these people in that type of fashion. Isn't that what I believe that's what you said. Well, I don't think it's
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wise to argue these things on the side of the road with someone with a lower than a hundred IQ with a Glock on their hip. No. I don't think that's smart. Do you, Wyatt?
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I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't. Man, I'm sorry. The dog incident. I remember the dog incident too well.
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Okay. Well, Wade, do you have a point here?
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No. I just want to chime in. I'm call calling I only caught the last ten minutes of the program.
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Okay. Typical. Okay. Well, that's okay. You're in the bathroom. So whatever. Thank you. Was there yeah. There's somebody else Paul's there. Was there somebody else or female? Ah, there's George. Hey, George.
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Hey. Yes, sir. Hey. I got a rough signal. Stay up here and hope you all had a good Memorial Day weekend. The, yeah, the way that I recently learned about how to how to keep these things separate in my mind was, like, when they're addressing that that name that's on the license or the birth certificate or marriage certificate or death certificate or adoption certificate, la la la la. They're addressing The United States. That's the same thing as The United States as contemplated in the fourteenth amendment. The, the flesh and blood you is a whole different, you know, per person, if you will. But the persona that they're kinda creating is is basically owned by The United States. You know? So so we put that back in its box by either claiming, you know, they don't have proof proof of claim of of territorial jurisdiction or
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We can hardly hear you, George. You're breaking up.
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Yep. I guess.
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Now sorry, George. You're gonna have to get in a better cell, buddy. Okay. Anybody else? George, we just can't hear you, man. I mean, it broke out totally. So So if you can get a better sell, we'd like you to hear what you got to say. If you can't, it's futile. So while you're looking for a better sell, anybody else got something to add here?
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When they're looking to hire cops, they're only hiring cops that are smart enough to be able to follow instructions and not smart enough to ask questions.
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And their hiring cops are are are are immigrant. A lot I've noticed that a lot of the Yeah. They're doing a lot of the
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immigrant. Yeah. They sure are like Chicago and Illinois and stuff and probably out there where you are, all these lefty states. So, anybody else got something? Anybody got a question for Paul? Comment for Paul? Paul, we like your show. You gotta get that that laughing guy. You gotta get him to to turn down his mic a little bit. He laughs so hard he over modulates sometimes. I know. I keep working with him a lot of
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on a lot of this. Some people just take ages. It's hard. It's hard. Just to it is just trying to speak nuts. I know. Adaptive audio. With his sound, but you're absolutely right. Actually, I wanna have you on. I was speaking to Paul the other day. So I wanna Oh, good. Talk outside the show. Yeah. Like, almost like on a regular returning gig, maybe once a month or once every six weeks, you know, something like that. Yeah. And it's not even about the detail of it, although we need to go into that. But it's really about the I I just think the approach, the marketing of it. Like, I don't really, you know, it's it's not that I'm not looking for more information or a more nuanced understanding. I'm always looking for that. But it doesn't bring people in, and so I'm I'm really thinking about all these things. I it needs to be energized in some way. I had a I was on with, with Rhea on Sunday on this Sunday show called Sunday Long Live, US time, what is it? It's every Sunday. I'm only on once a month with her. What time does it start?
6AM eastern through to 10AM eastern. It's a four hour show. Oh, I see. It's starting to get people from Canada, yeah, on a Sunday. It's really pretty cool. And, I'm on once a month. So I was on from, like, nine till ten eastern. Uh-huh. Just gone. And I had a really good rant. It was great. It was really good. I was I felt quite fired up. Always feel a bit tired out afterwards, don't you, after you have a good sort of gobbing off about things? But Oh, yeah. It's, because, you know, you think, hey. I've just said all that stuff. Why is things still changed? It's so childish. It's true. I just go, oh, bugger it. But, yeah, the people just need I just think, you know, that and it's gonna rev people up.
It's not an intellectual challenge. It really isn't an it because if it is, we there's literally no hope for us. There's absolutely zero hope. I don't think intellectuals have ever shifted a thing. They hold a lot of things in check. And, you know, if you've got brains, you obviously are gonna use them. But it's a big mistake to think that you can talk like that and actually get people to commit, you know, to actually taking a role in their own life. This is the big problem with it. And I guess to some degree, they don't want to because they're very comfy. The you know, this is all part of the design as well. There is Not that I'm arguing for discomfort. I'm not arguing for that at all. I I think people should be comfortable. But it breeds a kind of it it amplifies a mental sloth that was probably already there in the first place.
So sometimes you just do have to take people's hands and stick them in the fire and say, I'm sorry about this, but you really need to bloody wake up. And the reason why we need to wake him up, you know, from a purely selfish point of view, I suspect, is that, we need them to protect us. I'm serious. Question. You know, you you yeah.
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Well, the more we grow our ranks, the safer we are. Go ahead, Paul. Yep.
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Well, I was I was thinking about that. I've been thinking about that after you and I had originally discussed it. And I'm wondering, you know, just because of the format of your show and then how things are done, you touch different points in a relaxed conversational way. And it gives people a chance to, jump into a concept or grab hold of a concept, and then they can they can, let that mull about in their brain for a little bit. And then they're gently moved into another concept rather than just pound see, I think the problem with the appearances that Roger's been able to make on other shows is he's got sixty minutes to get a lot of concepts out, and, he just it just goes right over the heads of most people.
They don't actually have a chance to put it in their own words.
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Paul, do you know I did two hours on Jeff Rents, and we haven't gotten a single person out of that?
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Yeah. Paul mentioned it to me when we were talking about this. It's about packaging. It's about it's about restructuring, I think, to some way, how we talk about these things. There's no I mean, you know, the the problem we have as people as well is that we are addicted to the truth, so you can't tell us enough. And we can't understand why everybody else is just you don't wanna drink it twenty four seven. Right? Yep. But they don't. The truth is they don't. You look at it, you go, they don't they're not interested. What little bit could I throw to put a little mind bomb in there?
And so tidbits and moving on. And it is like trying to plant seeds, and it's easy to talk about. Doing it is a different kettle of fish. I mean, I'm trying to work on lots of, like, jingles to run through the show but not pointless jingles, jingles with little truth bombs in, anything. And it doesn't even have to follow the flow of the conversation. In fact, the more it's disrupted in a way, I'm interested to see what that might happen because if you think about lectures, I don't know how long a lecture lasts in the university. Is that an hour gig? Something like that? Maybe they go on longer than that, right? Someone's got to sit down, look after their buns, right? They go I'm off to be a student. I'm going to learn about engineering and this professor's turning up and I've got to sit down with him for an hour and fifteen minutes. They've got a goal so they will go through that. But most people don't.
Most people don't. And even going back to that thing about Spurgeon's sermons at 10 pages, I haven't read one out but it must be over an hour. Right? Must be at least over an hour. Close to an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So and you think, okay. So when's he delivering those? It's the eighteen fifties and sixties and seventies. Why would they work then? Because there's nothing else in town. Nothing. Alright. They go home to church on a Sunday. There's nothing else going on. They go, this is my show. This guy is gonna give me a dazzling I'm here for the whole hour. Now? Now people can't concentrate more than sort of thirty five seconds because they become TikToks. I'm not moaning about it. I'm just saying we have to recut the cloth of communications and make it suit the times maybe. It's worth having a go. And if there's any consolation, if you look at what Christ said, it's really brief and concise.
He didn't bang on for hours and hours.
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It's the mean intelligence of the public and the education that they've received. You've seen you've seen those fifth grade and sixth grade exam papers from a hundred years ago in the little country schools and things like that. Yep. There were college kids that couldn't answer those questions today. You know, you've been saved my money. And I believe you have a fantastic exams.
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Yeah. That that's brilliant. In fact, Paul, if you've got one, I'm gonna go off and dig some up. I've just made a little note here. I've got some somewhere on file. I was looking at a US One from about nineteen o five. It's only two pages. I've got there's 50 questions on it. It's absolutely amazing. It's amazing. And you're going, woah, this is good. Well, that's because they went to school, and they went to church, and they worked on the farm or whatever they were doing to help their parents out. That's it. That's your life. There's nothing else going on. So you've got time to develop the powers of concentration. Yeah. This is why reading long form books is so good. Even if the book's crap, the fact that you can go I can actually sit down for forty five minutes, an hour and a half, and not get broken out of my concentration space, and I can focus on this thing, and I stop every few minutes to digest a couple of pages and move on. And slowly but surely, the more you do it, the better you get at selecting the sort of material that you wanna read and so on and so forth. But we don't live in a nation of studious readers. You know, what's that thing from the Bible? Study to show thyself approved?
Well, people can't study. There's a bit of a problem. You can't get approved if you're not gonna if you're not gonna study this stuff. I So I think it's down to the sort of the intermediary communicators like ourselves to find formats that fit the age that we live in. And, and it ain't just videos. Videos don't do it for me, I have to say. But, it's gotta be something like that. It's gotta be something like that. Because I think they're going to drama. They're going to too much entertainment fact. And, oh, this this is terrible. They're gonna do this to us. They're gonna do that to us. They're gonna oh, it's awful. I give up. Right? Well, that's kind of, you know that's why I say that the alternative media is becoming its own worst enemy because it's just an alternative version of scaring the pants off of everybody. Nothing constructive comes out at the end of it. You know? I believe
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the I believe the average course length the average class length, like, in college and the lecture has to fit within it is forty minutes.
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Okay.
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Okay. Yeah. I believe that is Yeah.
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And if there's two hours, because I used to be a teacher with two hour classes, we'd give them a break. So whatever. But I think most of the classes were about an hour. Anybody, I I had to miss that. I had to go talk to my landlord for a minute. So We heard every word, Roger. We were You gotta sue him back. Then I gotta go give her some money so they can go on vacation for a week.
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Idaho.
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Yeah. Okay, George. Now I know you're a little better. Once you got home, we gotta we gotta make room for George here.
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I appreciate it. I, yeah, going through the the hinterlands up here. But, yeah, the the thing that I thought was really a great way to understand that whole driver's license, you know, birth certificate, marriage certificate kind of thing was that that's basically, when they're addressing that, that's The United States they're addressing. That's created by them, the fourteenth amendment and everything kinda after that. So I thought that was a really good, way to look at it when we're trying to figure out who who we are, you know, who who we are in law. So if they're addressing you as dean of states, then, you know, then we act accordingly in that set of laws. If they're gonna and that's what they set up, you know, with the banking and everything else. And then if they're the flesh and blood common law man, then that's who we are as well. So anyway Yeah. But the thing is is they've gotta recognize us, and they've gotta deal with us. K? We've just found the little magic loophole, the
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you escape back to our original where we're supposed to be, status where you ain't got no hands on us, Jew boys. We get out of Jew slavery here. So if you don't wanna live under the yoke of these bastards, come hang around. Period.
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I know. It's a big ask for most people, though, you know, because you're taking them out of their comfort zone. Well, you know, I think it's the safety's in the in the herd, they think, and they're right to think that, by the way. And then,
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you're saying, you know, it's a bit stinky in here. We need to get out. Oh, no. It's alright. But as a devil, you know, they say. It's not comfort anymore. It's not a big pink cloud anymore. There's pain. You can come out of that and relieve yourself of that, but you've got to do it. You know, the biggest object that I have here, Paul, is trying to teach people that you've got the power and you've got the choice. They do not understand that. They've been conditioned out of it.
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Yeah. No. It's well, it's true. There there's all these there's all these problems. I've got about five minutes, by the way. So I just one of the I don't know if I mentioned it was on before. It's something that's just stuck in my head recently from, reading this book Crisis of Civilization by Belloc, which is a wonderful book. Right. It's only a couple of hundred pages, and it's great stuff. He's of course, he's an ardent Catholic, but I that's not why I read him. I understand some of his points about he's talking about a sort of unified approach to things, which, of course, is appealing as long as it's the right one. But one of the things that he talks about, in one section was about these three, aspects of civilized life. Let's call them aspects. There's probably a better word, but I'll call them that for now. And it's talking about the spiritual, the political, and the economic.
And he's saying, for us to restore Christendom, and I love this word Christendom because it sort of moves it outside of the religious purview for a bit. Yeah. Because we gotta be really careful about what words you because they just trigger people off. No wonder, you know, with all the received stuff they've got in their head. The actual natural order of things is that a people are together and have like a spiritual restoration, let's call it that, a revival. I don't mean it literally in that way with lots of singing. I mean that there becomes a conviction that they see that there is this thing called the law. They become aware of it. It actually is dynamically working in their life and has been every moment of their lives and they need to get back to it. So we go, well these are the these are the values that we want to see back in our day to day living. We want to see the family being placed at the absolute pinnacle of all decision making, because without healthy families, what are we doing?
There's no future for anything. Whereas, you know, we're here as the current stewards with the next generation coming along. And it's our job to be good stewards for them, as our parents were, we hope, for us. We know it's not the case for everybody and so on and so forth. So you have that spiritual focus. A fire needs to be lit back. It's still in there. It's smouldering. And then that fire informs the political sphere because you've got to apply it practically. You say, well, look, here's a political process whereby we're gonna employ policies etcetera that bring about this spiritual thing and then the political class dictates to the economic sphere how it's going to behave. We're going to behave like this because if you don't behave like this we can't achieve these goals that all the people want which are the natural goals. In fact, it's not even their goals. They're actually under a contract to behave like this because this is what breeds prosperity and happiness and a sense of heavenliness momentarily from time to time, which is, I guess, you know, not a bad thing when you look at what we've got. What we actually live in is the complete reverse.
So the economic sphere has assumed and taken control of all this power. It dictates and controls the courts and the media and the political class, and it's using that political class to destroy families in very simple terms. That's what's actually happening. We we live in a reverse o world, and I'm just trying to always find new language to describe the same problem. But it seems to me that without that fire, it's not a technical or intellectual challenge. It's to do with fire inside people. It's to do with getting fire back, whatever you might think that means. It does mean passion.
It may mean speeches where you are hitting the lectern with your fist. It may mean that. It may mean a type of language which is rough. I don't know what it means, but it means something with force and real volume and intention and, and vocal passion behind it because that's what moves people. It's not intellect. Intellect doesn't do anything. No. Emotion. Yeah. It it it just it really is that, you know. So we don't say, look, they they're running a fractional reserve system and charging you interest. That's tedious. We say, they're robbing you blind and they're bullying you, and they're stealing money from you all the time. They've been doing it for hundreds of years. It's this sort of language, rougher language, that's simpler, more direct, gets the point across faster. There's a room for that. Once you've you've got a crowd doing that, you'll get people from that crowd who will naturally say, I need a more nuanced understanding of this. We go great, here's all these books, off you go. You can't read, can't you? Because, you know, we ain't got the time to actually serve everybody. But it's it's something along that process because we used to have, across Europe when Christendom was unified, no matter what we may think of the Catholic Church, we had basically an agreement across these nations about what was morally and ethically right. For example, you were completely forbidden to practice usury And the church weakened on it, and this opened up the floodgates. And you were, you know, the commercial powers, just like in Rome, as you were mentioning earlier, began to dictate how life is life is to serve commerce. No, it isn't.
It's what it's become. But we can't possibly be happy if we allow the commercial class, the creditor class, to dictate things to us. And, of course, they do it through the law and these turning us into serfs and all these other things, which you're very familiar with, Roger. I know. But Oh, anyway. That's my life. Too familiar.
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I've got to go. I've got to go to lunch. I think you said you had a couple of minutes. Paul, just love having you drop by.
[02:25:51] Unknown:
Nice to let me drop by. Thank you. So much. And,
[02:25:54] Unknown:
let me know on your,
[02:25:56] Unknown:
your idea on your program, and we'll work something out. And We will. We'll have a chat outside of your show, Alex. Oh, okay. Is it better to call you after the show or before your show? What's your day like? Normally after. Normally after. Okay. Except for Tuesday. My time, but I'll I'll give you a call maybe tomorrow tomorrow afternoon your time, something like that. Okay? That would be good. Thank you, man. Always love you, and take care. Okay? All done. Somebody got alright. Somebody's got something to say there. Who is it?
[02:26:24] Unknown:
Before Paul goes, I'll put a link to that eighth grade eighteen ninety five test in the chat. Oh, yeah. And, Paul Binner wants to send it to him. He can pull it up and download it.
[02:26:36] Unknown:
Most kind. Thank you. That, Paul? Have you ever seen the graduation from ninth grade back in the eighteen hundreds?
[02:26:43] Unknown:
Oh oh, I have. Yeah. Well, maybe we should do it. You should do it as a show. Maybe I'll get the questions and start reading them out. I might read them out to my audience. So anybody got any idea on this one? First prize is a pencil. You get a pencil if you get them alright. No. We should. Only if it's a number of letters.
[02:27:00] Unknown:
It's here. I guarantee your college graduates couldn't couldn't pass that today. Go ahead, Rick. Sorry.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
It was from Salina Tech Salina, Kansas, I think, in eighth grade.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. And my daddy never graduated past the eighth grade. Go ahead.
[02:27:22] Unknown:
That's the eighth grade test right there, right, that I'm looking at in the chat?
[02:27:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. See if you can pass it, Wahid.
[02:27:32] Unknown:
Oh my god.
[02:27:33] Unknown:
I can't be in bad oh, lord. I I don't think a college graduate capacity, quite frankly. Very few.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
So You have nine rules for the use of capital letters.
[02:27:44] Unknown:
Oh, lord.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Help. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications. Define verse, stanza, and paragraph. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of do, lie, lay, and run. Define case. Illustrate each case. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation. Write a write a composition of about a 50 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. There you go: seven questions. That's how we want that's how people used to talk. I've got my my last comment, right? My dad left school in 1939. He was 14 years of age, and he was in the navy three years later and at d day and all that kind of stuff. He went in the navy when he was 17.
And I've got the school report written by his headmaster when he was 14 when he left school because he then went off to work He went off to work. He wasn't a teenager. They didn't have them in the nineteen thirties. Right? This report of on my dad is four paragraphs. It's absolutely brilliant. It's brilliant. There's about 12 sentences in it. You are left in absolutely no doubt about the quality and characteristics of my dad. It's just spot on and I'm going there you it's on an a5 that's half letter size, you guys, sheet of paper. It's just brilliant. And I'm going, I want to live in a world where people can actually communicate concisely, clearly, and precisely.
And you should see the guff that they're teaching people over here on mathematics. It's hilarious. Oh, yeah. It's just it's just it's insane. And, of course, it's not insane. It's an attack on us. It's a it's it's a veiled attack, and we're removing the veil to, you know, all of these things to confuse the mind, to overcomplicate things, to allow everybody to not have their feelings hurt. To hell with that. Get your feelings hurt. It's one of the best learning things you can ever have. It teaches you lessons very quickly, and that's what we need. So Yeah. All you gotta do is start telling them no. Well, my you hurt my feelings. Well, I'm real sorry, but disregard the fact. I've hurt your feelings. Here's some money. Go make a phone call to someone who gives a shit, which is what I usually say.
Right?
[02:29:56] Unknown:
Well, yeah. And used to, you could give them a nickel, and they could do a payphone, at least in Louisiana.
[02:30:02] Unknown:
We've been I miss all those mechanisms of the old world. You know? Yeah. We were talking about the other day. You can't have any cop movies anymore because everything if you actually make it proper, no one can break into anything because it's all to do with crypto hacking and stuff. It's so boring. Where's the guy in the car with the machine gun? That was fun in the chase. Yeah. You can't have any of that anymore. They've got caught inside five seconds. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. They killed Bonnie and Clyde, and it went. So, Paul, we'll talk to you soon. I'll look forward to it. Okay? Well, I'll give you a call maybe tomorrow or later in the week, Roger. Thanks for for allowing me on to gas off a bit. I listen to your shows, and I go, man, I'd like to say that and that and that.
[02:30:40] Unknown:
So I appreciate being on there. Okay?
[02:30:42] Unknown:
That's cool. That'd be great. We'll get you in. That'd be good. I look forward to it, Roger. Alright. And my audience, does anybody have anything for me before I take off?
[02:30:53] Unknown:
Oh, they've learned by now. There's the dinner bell. I will see y'all tomorrow on Wednesday, and we're probably gonna be a whole bunch of stuff to talk about tomorrow. Maybe we'll even have a new student or two. Who knows? Love you. Have a great day. Ciao. Thanks, Paul.
[02:31:09] Unknown:
Paul. Thanks, Roger. Bye for now. Yeah. Bye bye.
[02:31:13] Unknown:
Thanks, Raj. Bon appetit. Oh, that was fun, Paul. Thanks for coming over. Or did he did both of the polls or did both of them leave? Let's see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They both did. Oh, I'm left all alone. Bloody hell. Okay. Well, anybody show
[02:31:45] Unknown:
that is referenced about Paul overseas, what is the name of that show? Where is where can people find that? It's Paul English live, and it's normally,
[02:31:55] Unknown:
it's normally streamed on Global Voice Network and shared with this local, conference room.
[02:32:03] Unknown:
So it's on FCC? Just type in Paul English Live?
[02:32:07] Unknown:
No. No. PaulEnglishlive.com, is where you'll find the links to, radiosoapbox.com, Paul's Rumble channel, wbm324.com, all the other places that you can hear it. But it is also streamed in the PPN Radio Ranch room and on Global Voice Network. You can listen to it right here. So so there.
[02:32:51] Unknown:
Okay. I'm looking it up. Thank you. I was I had my finger away from the mute button and stuff on FCC. Yeah. I'll get her. Thank you, man.
[02:33:00] Unknown:
Alright. Well, if somebody's got anything else to say, let's, let's take this down. Thanks so much for joining us on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on EurofolkRadio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, RadioSoapbox.com, and, the host of the Net family of broadcast services. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. You can find, exhibits. You can find, court sites. You can find downloadables, interviews, links to, access printed materials. Yada yada yada, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Thanks so much for joining us today. Have a pleasant afternoon, and I look forward to seeing each and every one of you back here tomorrow.
Bye now.
[02:34:09] Unknown:
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[02:34:15] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Health and Personal Updates
Discussion on Jural Assembly Groups
Understanding Citizenship and Legal Status
Challenges in Educating on National Status
Listener Engagement and Feedback
Historical Context and Legal Discussions
Robert Barnes and Legal Insights
Mid-Episode Break and Announcements
Supreme Court Opinions and Legal Implications
International Affairs and Global Politics
E Michael Jones and Historical Perspectives
Educational Standards and Public Awareness
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
