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In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates through a myriad of topics, from the intricacies of the fourteenth amendment to the geopolitical tensions in South Africa. Roger discusses the historical and current complexities of South Africa, highlighting the unique cultural makeup of Afrikaners, Boers, and the influence of French Huguenots. The conversation also touches on the controversial figure of Nelson Mandela and the ongoing racial tensions in the region. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding the legal definitions and implications of citizenship and nationality, particularly in the context of the United States and its historical amendments.

Roger also shares personal anecdotes and listener interactions, discussing the challenges of navigating legal systems and the importance of understanding one's rights and status. The episode is a deep dive into the legal and political landscapes, with Roger urging listeners to educate themselves and challenge the status quo. The show concludes with a call to action for listeners to continue learning and advocating for truth and freedom, highlighting the collective effort needed to bring about change.

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Well, us also, and here we go taking another swing at it here on the   Thursday   edition of the Radio Ranch. Pardon me. Stomach acting up here this morning.   It is the fifteenth. Date stamped fifteenth May, halfway through the month or so. I think this is a thirty one day month with   Memorial Day and stuff. Anyway, we're about halfway through it.   Beware the eyes of May.   Roger Sales, your host here at the radio range. What, Paul?  

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No. I was I was just I was just chuckling at your Beware of the Ides of May.  

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Yeah. There you go.   And, of course,   Paul is, overseas,   rides heard, if you will, rides heard over the other folks that help us   extend our reach all over the place. And, so we bring him out so we can give them proper recognition and credit. About this time,   almost every show, except when I forget it occasionally.   And I got something on my mind and roll I wanna roll on, like, bash Microsoft. That'd be a good place to start. But we're gonna go ahead and help our, affiliates here and give them recognition and credit if you would, Paul. Maybe I'll call you down a little.  

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We have a full complement of,   supporters   today. We have radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the pond.   We have eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James.   We have one zero six point nine WBOU   FM in Chicago,   Home Network Dot Tv, Freedom Nation Dot Tv, go live TV, and stream life.tube,   WBOU.   And, the four I just mentioned are part of the NET family   of broadcast services,   brought to you and brought to us by WDRN productions Fort Collins, Colorado.   And finally, we round it out with Global Voice Radio Network, that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   The links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs,   d 0 c s,   Com,   where you will also find the links to free conference calls so you can   join us live on the   show. Got a room for about a thousand of you. Come on down.  

Hey. Happy Thursday.   Looking forward to, Paul English live this afternoon, 3PM eastern.  

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That's right. Paul's got double   he's double barreled today.   Oh, yes.   So,   I'm, I'm a little bit discombobulated   today, still in the aftereffects of this Skype   change?   Because now I've gotta find some way to get phone calls to The US. Well, it's gonna be magicJack.   Okay? It looks like there's two systems out there. MagicJack's the one I'm familiar with.   But, you know,   if there was an 800 number, I   I guess there's a way to still use my Skype stuff until   the subscription   expires. Anyway, it's just a mess, man. So but you can't call   magicJack.  

And and and like Jack tried the other day, I was talking to him. He said, I tried to call over there, and I got India. And I was on the phone for three hours, and I never got what I was trying to get straightened out. So I'm certainly not into going through that.   So now I'm trying to order the thing offline, and with my eyesight, it just really complicates it because I have to   enlarge something to the extent that I can't see the other surrounding words and stuff. So you have to creep along reading what you can see that's,   that's enlarged. It's just a pain in the butt, man. I can't get through. So I've been trying to get through the magicJack site to order a $49 at magicJack   for about two freaking hours. K? I still haven't got it done. Alright? So it's just one big aggravation.  

Always, as I told y'all, whenever I have a bad day, it's 90%   of it is absolutely directly attributable to Microsoft.   It's always it goes back to something they're doing   or some   garbage they put up on your screen. I can't see to get rid of all the garbage, and it's just a a mess. Anyway, frustrating for me. Sorry to start out the show that way, but   maybe I get a little bit off my chest because it really, is overbearing   when you get into those kind of technical things for me. May not be for you, but it is for me incredibly   frustrating.  

So that's where we are.   Hopefully, I'll get that done here after we get off. Or I'll have to get my landlord to come help me. You know, she reads English. So, anyway,   a   lot going on in the world.   I guess the majority of yesterday, a lot of yesterday's commentary stuff is on   excuse me.   Come on.   Is on, Trump bringing these Afrikaners   over.   And I'm still kinda confused. I hear some people say there's 8,000 of them. I hear other people say there's only 60 of them. I think what is going on is that he has allotted   for 8,000 of them to come, but only 60 came in the first   transfer. Now that may be wrong, but that's the only thing I can conclude at this point. Some people are saying 8,000, other people are saying 60, and they don't ever clarify the damn thing. So I think we got 60, mainly families,   farmers, white farmers, of course.  

And so with all the conversation and stuff yesterday,   Jones brought on,   I always get her confused with Laura Loomer. It's not Laura Loomer, the little Jew,   Jewess. It's, Laura Larson. Is that her name? Logan. Logan. Logan. Thank you. Laura Logan. Is that Renee there?  

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Robbie.   Roger.   Roger.   Just may I I just wanted to add,   I don't know if you know about this or not,   but Facebook   Messenger has an amazing   free,   phone service, and you can even,   video as well if you choose. Yes. Well, Robbie I highly recommend you checking into it.  

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Facebook Messenger is an app called WhatsApp. And, yeah, I've been using it for years, so I'm well aware of all those. K? Mark Zuckerberg   bought the WhatsApp thing. Was a very, very good device, a little app that was,   invented by two,   Ukrainians, actually,   who hated advertising in the store. There's no advertising on there the way they structured it. Mark Zuckerberg   bought it from them. They incorporated the president of it over into Facebook.   And six months later, he quit and walked out because he hated what they were doing to it. K? So I do know that also, but thank you. I've got that, and I've got Telegram.   But I need sometimes to be able to call a phone line or an 800 number or something like that, and they they that doesn't do that.  

K? So that's the reason for all this.   And,   yikes. So where the hell now? I forgot where I was. Okay. Back to the Afrikaners.   Laura   Logan,   I guess. But what a gal that gal is.   She used to be a   sixty minutes correspondent,   and she was on it. She's the one that would go cover all the wars. She's South Africa.   And,   she was in, Egypt, and she got jumped by   the the brotherhood,   whatever it is, one of these   the money the world has screwed up. One of these damn group crazy ass groups,   and gang raped her and gang sodomized her. And she went into that story yesterday,   And she said, I thought I was dying, and she went into the whole story.  

And,   anyway, what she did go into and and what I wanted to get to was I   have, I'm I'm kind of aware of this. We've had some Afrikaners on the show,   years ago, and,   I was aware of the situation, I thought,   until I learned that there's   it's not what I thought really kinda at all. It's not just one group of whites over there.   They've got kind of three different groups of whites that have distilled down into two.   And two of them are on one side and the other is on the other side, and that is the original Boers   versus the Boers who are people from   Holland   that left four hundred and fifty years ago   to go find a place, and they ended up down there   at the end of the Cape. There was no blacks,   And they started developing the land. It was a hundred and fifty years before the blacks started coming around.  

So they've got a group of people down there called Afrikaners   that they're totally indigenous to South Africa. They have their own language   and their own culture, and it's not their language and spoken anywhere else in the world. So they are native Africans   that are white.   Okay? And so they,   the Afrikaners,   have kinda teamed up with what we call the Boers   or these people from Holland.   And those two have ties. I can't go into the details.   I just kinda know what she was saying yesterday. I never heard it before.   And,   so they gang up. And, Paul, who do you think their biggest enemy is? It ain't the blacks.  

Who do you think their biggest rival is? I can only guess. Kazarians?   The English. Really? So here's the two groups of whites,   the boars and the Afrikaners versus the English that hate each other more than either one of them hate the blacks or the blacks hate them. So that's the mix over there. And the other third thing that I did not know is Bruce with us this morning? I hope he is. Bruce is right up your alley. I didn't know this.   But the other component of those folks down there are French Huguenots.   The same ones that came over and settled South Carolina   that were Protestants that were trying to get away from the Catholics massacring them. Okay?  

So I did not know that the Huguenots had ended up down there and also   somehow the Italians,   because she is a mixture of the Huguenots and the Italians.   And so I thought that was tremendously interesting at this age when I thought I kinda knew something about it. And I hear   someone from there going into a much more intricate,   discussion,   and I find out all these things. I didn't know the French Huguenots   had had had migrated down there.   I didn't know there was a group called the Afrikaners that have their own indigenous   language and culture that are there. It was established there. Okay?  

And so,   boy, it it it you'd think the liberals,   after running 20 plus million illegals in here,   who don't contribute anything except give me my Obama phone and and and give me my credit card. I want my stamp card.   All that crap. All they're doing is sucking $23,000   a damn month out of your Social Security that you worked and paid into.   Okay? They're sucking it out of there. They don't contribute anything.   And here we got these people who are highly productive,   literally being massacred.   I mean, these are the things   the things these   communist blacks, Marxist blacks are doing to these white farmers and the it's for, like, 400 and something farmers are are killed a year. That's, like, 30 something a month. And they do things. They go and invade their farms. Oh, this you're gonna love this one. They put babies in microwaves.  

I mean, just brutal.   Brutal.   The worst.   You you can't even imagine that another human could do this to another human no matter what their mindset is,   But that's who these people are.   And,   so I dropped my, we've got a listener, an old time listener from,   South Africa, Sebastian.   He and I hadn't   exchanged anything in a while, but I was thinking about him with all this. I said I wrote him, so if you'll go get on one of these planes to The US, you'll be a citizen of The United States. I'll get you free. You know?   And, he wrote back, and I guess he's, like, 300 miles away from   Cape whatever it is. And   it but right on the ocean and, doesn't have too much of this influence where he is,   I think. I haven't gotten finished reading everything he wrote me. But,   anyway, it's a mess. You're gonna be hearing more about that. That's got everything getting boiled up for the summer.  

And,   also, on top of that, just to add a little bit of potential fuel to the fire, Paul, have you heard they're gonna release Derek Chauvin?  

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No. Yeah.  

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Which is fantastic.   He should be released. You know what I'm talking about. Right?  

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Snowden? It's not.  

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Eric. No. Chauvin.   Chauvin.  

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Oh, Derek's   oh oh, he's the the one in the Minnesota. I can't breathe all that.  

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Yes.   And he's about to be released. I guess they tried to kill him in prison. Guy shouldn't even be there. The the the Eric Floyd,   whatever his name was, George Floyd died of a   he had more cocaine. He could probably kill a whole block of people in his as much as he had in his system.   I guess he might have thought he was gonna get arrested and swallowed   some because the whole thing started over a counterfeit bill. Do you remember that, Paul?   Do you remember the background totally there? Or something. He'd walked into a drugstore and tried to pass a counterfeit 10 or 20, and they saw it was counterfeit and called the cops. That's what got started all that.   Evidently, Chauvin and and George Floyd were bouncers   at the same club.  

He used to work as a bouncer off duty stuff at a at a nightclub. I think both of them were at the were at the same club. They knew each other, evidently. Roger Chauvin was the security guard, and Pink Floyd was the bouncer, but they knew each other.   Okay.  

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Pink Floyd? Yep. Pink Floyd, they call him   because he was a homo.  

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Oh, oh, oh, you mean George? Joe okay. Pink Floyd. Okay. Floyd. They call him Mike Floyd. I'll catch up. I'll I'll catch up with you a minute. I'm still pissed off at Microsoft. Okay? So, Okay. Anyway,   that all that background didn't come out. They wouldn't let the autopsy   come out where the guy said he died of an overdose   And that the, anyway, it's just a big mess as y'all all know. And so they stick Chauvin in as a,   well, we're gonna make an example out of you to quell the masses.   So they show throw Chauvin in there. They try and kill him in prison. So, he's evidently a pretty good guy,   but, you know, he's got that fatal he's got that fatal flaw, Paul. He's white. Okay? Mhmm. And,   so he's about to get let out. Well, I think that might fuel this,   this racial fire, this building, you think?  



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Oh, yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah.   Did you hear that there was a   a larger than life portrait   of George Floyd   on the side of a brick building   and lightning   struck   that building   and blew   that blew that painting apart.  

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Okay. Well well, yeah, here's my here's my follow-up. Is this statue next?  

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I don't know.  

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I don't know. I hope so. I hope so.   I mean, it's all this. Just this I hate communism, and I hate communist folks.   I mean, you just see their handiwork.   It's just   unbelievable.   On a little bit when I wasn't fighting in a magic jacks form this morning, I was listening to Harrison and Savannah Hernandez.   He's a pretty sharp little reporter.   Was somewhere up in New Jersey or something trying to talk talk to some of these wackos   and see if you could talk sense into them.   You they're they're they're you you can't communicate with these people. Right. You you just flat you know, they say, well, well, I I think I can change you can't change their mind because they ain't listening to you. They're gonna talk over what you say. What you say does not register with them. You know, here here's another one. What comes from the media and whatever sources they're paying attention to is what registers with them. Here's an example.   Here's a guy out there in this protest thing dressed in his army uniform. Used to be in the army evidently. Maybe he's faking. I don't know. Anyway, he gets in. Well, I I took a oath to uphold the constitution, and I I demand that we give due process to Garcia.  

Hold it, folks.   The illegal aliens are not covered by the constitution.   I'm sorry.   They don't have due process.   They're illegal,   and they broke the law coming into the country. How does that entitle them to due process?   But you cannot reason with these dumb people. Once they the communist   news,   affiliate where they listen has gotten that implanted into their mind, you're not gonna change it, and they're gonna argue that point no matter if you rub their nose in it on the damn constitution. It said illegals do not have access to due process.   I mean, they would. You know, if they kill somebody, they would. K?  

But just on due process in general of extradition, when he'd already had two court decisions,   say, not only was MS 13,   but they extradited his ass. And then what happened was they put up an appeal   that they he was being he he was gonna be killed by the rival gang in El Salvador, and some leftist judge   let him hang on that for a while. Well, between then and now, that gang didn't exist anymore.   So he's using excuse. They're trying to buy it that doesn't even exist anymore, the other gang that was threatening him and doing anything to get this guy back into the country.   Yet here we got legitimate white people from a place where they're being killed   for 465   a year. Well, what does that average out to? $30.38   a month, some 39 a month, something like that?  

It's pretty much it's a whole bunch of people every month that these damn monsters are slaughtering over there.   They get up in 200,000   in a stadium, and whoever the guy at the head of the ANC,   they're up there going kaboom, whatever, and boar. Kill the boar. Kill the boar. And there's 200,000   of them saying that, whipping them up into a literal frenzy, a blood frenzy.   So Roger.   Yes.  

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Yes. This is Thomas in Florida.   Yeah. Hey, Thomas. Yeah. Just just as an aside there, there's a guy named,   Jan well, Jan Lambrecht,   and he's quite an authority on what's happening in South Africa because he's been there. I mean, he's a South African.   And fascinating, you know, this, Mandela, you know, to the normies, how he's been projected as being this wonderful person   and all that. Well Apparently,   he, you know, he was involved in a lot of, like, bombings,   murders.   There were some Russian Jews who were involved in giving him all the stuff he needed. Right? Of course. When he had his when he had his trial, this is fascinating. Most people don't know this. When he had his trial,   international observers   came in to make sure he wasn't gonna get railroaded, you know, like, you know, like a a pole black, like, you know, just to make sure this is gonna go legit. Right? So they sat in for the whole trial.  

Apparently, at the end of the trial,   they were absolutely amazed   that the South Africans didn't execute them all   after they saw the evidence.  

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And, apparently, there were some strings pulled and whatnot, and and they and they Didn't hold hold it, Thomas. They're amazed at the sound that who didn't get executed.  

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The whites, the blacks too. See, the the the do gooder, bleeding heart international observers came in to make sure he didn't get screwed over. And when they heard the end of they heard the whole trial, they said they were amazed that that Mandela was not hung along with his Jewish cohorts. It was a discussion that was so vile.  

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Well, with Laura Loomer yesterday, she was praising Mandela, and she grew up there.   And not only him, but Desmond two two two. And she said these people were really pretty straight up front, and the country was under fairly good rule when they were there. But it was like when Winnie   took over from Nelson   and some of these other things that the communist they took all those leaders and sent them up to Russia and sent them through communist school.   And a bunch of them are the ones that are still doing this stuff right now. It's what she was saying. You check that out in the third fourth hour of Alex yesterday.  

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He Roger. For about forty minutes. That's what's so confusing because this guy Lambeth knows all about what happened, who sabotaged who, you know, I I think that Ian Smith. The bottom line is the whole thing was he said these guys were terrible.   And he said they he said,   then of course it ends up that Mandela   eventually goes to prison, but he doesn't go to prison. He had his own apartment. It was a very cushy deal. And then in the end they become the president of the country.  

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Yeah.   I I understand. It's very interesting to see those two conflicting opinions, though. I mean, look. She's a journalistic   big time journalistic   reporter.   So, for whatever, maybe just different parts of the country that they saw or whatever. But that that is what she said yesterday because I was kinda shocked by it. Who's the female trying to say something there? I was Hold on. Robbie. I was too, Roger. I was gonna ask your opinion because mainstream  

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has always,   idolized Mandela,   but yet the alternative media   has always demonized him. And I was very I was I would say I was almost shocked to hear Laura Logan   say that he was a one of the greatest leaders they had because she lived there. So,   I was gonna ask your opinion.  

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Well, I'm put I put it out there. I was shocked to hear her say it, and that's why I've heard stuff like Thomas is bringing forward, and that was my impression.   I was really, really I think shocked is a good word when I heard her say that Yeah. About both. Now Desmond Tutu   was a Jesuit.   So there's that influence down there, but she had high words of praise for both of those yesterday. You can go back and listen to them yourself. It was in the fourth hour of Alex.   And,   boy, I I I respect this Laura   Laura Logan. Logan.  

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Yeah. One other point I'd like to make, Roger.   I believe that Israel's,   Independence Day is May 1, and I don't know if we mentioned that. But, apparently,   yesterday was also another   Israeli   date. I don't know if it was its birthday or what. I I it was some date. Probably. But there was a there was an earthquake   on that date. Hello?  

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Yes. You bet it wasn't bigger.   I think they were founded in May. I'm not sure of the date. I I try   and not keep those kind of things in my mind necessarily, but I believe it is in May when they were unfortunately granted,   countryhood.   God, the world has has not seen such a dark day   in a long time, I'm afraid.   So, anyway well, Rob, you you never hang out here. All of a sudden, you're on here this morning, and you're interacting,   quite vociferously, what, what what happened?  

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I I'm always I'm I'm always here as much as I can be, but I don't talk because I can't sit still. Remember? Switchel britches?   I I don't sit down. So I I'm always listening, but I'm not always talking.  

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Well, you're very rarely you're very rarely on the air and interacting with us. That's my point, but good to hear you. And,   yeah, she's Robbie's always listening. You know? So,  

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Thomas, did you get out everything you wanted to say on that little, sub thread? Yeah. Yeah. I I just think that nobody realizes what's really going on down there. There's another thing if you want a good you can that guy his name is Jan Lambrecht,   and, you know, you can bring him up. He's older too. He's not he's not young like this, Loomer Right. Whatever. Right. He's in his seventies, I believe, and he's been around Well, she ain't no spring chicken, but she for a gal that's been through everything she's been through,  

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she   she hangs on to herself pretty well. I gotta tip my hat to her. I don't know   if I was a female if I could even have kept my sanity with what she went down through there in Cairo. Okay? I mean,   but she was she said I was I saw death.   And all of a sudden, some the crowd came in around me, and there was a a group of women and children there, and they kinda saved me.   But, anyway, horrible situation.   Unbelievable that she has the, mental acumen   that she has after suffering that. I think she's   married to a Navy Seal or a retired,   big time military guy,   but, she's quite a gal,   Laura Logan.  

So, yes, it's it's quite ugly. And it's interesting to me also that the poor old the original ones, I guess, the ones that turned into the Afrikaans,   They they started farming and settling that land four hundred and fifty or four hundred seventy five years ago. Mhmm. That's a long time ago, folks.   That's almost twice as long as our country's been around. They were down there setting that up, and there was no blacks.   They're the ones that built all the infrastructure,   built the farms, turned it into a whole civilization,   and it was a hundred and fifty years before any of those tribes started coming down there. Hey, Raj. Yes, Paul.  

I hate communist, Paul. I just hate the son of a bitches.  

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Well, isn't it interesting the parallels we can draw between The United States   and South Africa?   Yes, ma'am. The United States, they had the indigenous   population, the natives,   and then,   the English   sent over the ships with the pilgrims on them to come over and   populate the new country or or   Mhmm. No. No. To come to the new world.   And then they killed the Indians,   and then they imported blacks to our country and turned them into slaves.  

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They didn't. And The Jews did. Come on. No. If you can't do a story line, do it right. Okay? Okay. First of all, the England didn't send them over there. They left because they were so dissatisfied   with what was going on in England   that they were gonna come over there and establish a base and try and take over England. That's why they called it New England. Okay. K? Well So it's it's still interesting, the parallels between The United States  

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and South Africa.   I mean, first, there was an indigenous population,   and then there were invaders that came in or or other people that came in. And then there was slavery, and then there was an import of, black population,   and   then it   was it's all a very sordid affair.  

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Anyway It is. And, I mean, when you look at it back then, what the the the it was the it was the Jews that were taking advantage of the fact that the South was agrarian,   And you needed help to run some of those   larger plantations. There weren't very many   large plantation slave owners.   There weren't very many. Most of the slave owners   owned one.   If they owned any, they owned one or two. They paid big money for them, and they were considered part of the family. Okay? Right. You're not gonna go you had to go pay I don't know what $2,000   in those days would be the equivalent of today, but it'd be a darn a a darn big pile of Kent Federal Reserve notes. Okay?  

That they didn't have that kind of financial wherewithal,   and that's why. And I'd love to see somebody go in and do the research on this.   Didn't they almost have to finance them?   So weren't the Jewish bankers right there at the slave markets?   If you don't know, the slave markets were so predominantly   Jewish that they closed on the Jewish holidays.  

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They were the original buy here, pay here.  

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I get it. Car lots. Well, we'll go over here to our financing agent over here. Yeah. Jaime   Jaime, what's his stein over here? And let him write you up a little promissory note. And but here's the problem a lot of them had, if that was the case,   is that there was no containment.   If the slave wanted to leave, and I guess he was under a   a loan type situation.   He could just walk off the plantation and go west.   A number of them did, and and some of them really distinguished themselves out west once they got free. You know?   So what was I wonder if that was the case that they were under some sort of a loan. What was the collateral? The the the land or the the slave?  



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What the collateral left? You know? Well, I'm sure it would it would be the land.  

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Yeah. Oh. So don't know. I'd love to see somebody get some research done on that, but I'll bet you,   almost all those were financed somehow. I'll bet you I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut. Okay. Just to connect a couple of dots on that. You know? Get the doughnut. Go ahead. Right. Just to connect a couple of dots on that mural,  

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cbsnews.com   has, an article from 07/15/2021,   the George Floyd mural   honoring   or or a mural honoring the memory of George Floyd in Toledo, Ohio   has collapsed after being struck by lightning on Tuesday. According to CBS affiliate WTOL,   local officials responded to the Summit and LaGrange Streets   after a bolt of lightning struck the side of a building with the mural. The brick wall, along with a major section of the mural, then collapsed   into rubble.   The piece was created by   the piece was created by artist David Ross a year ago. He said it stands as a memorial and a reminder to never forget the day George Floyd died. Are you sure that's not David Rossberg?  

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I'm I don't know. Could be. Yeah. You bet your ass it was before they change it.   Yeah. So okay. Then people. Whatever it is in their swarped ass Talmud culture   that totally   it messes these people up with a capital f. Okay?   Yeah. Well, they're really screwed up. Go ahead.  

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I am looking at the, at the before and after pics or maybe the after and before pics because they did the the destroyed,   wall.   But, it looks like that mural had something like a like a three pointed crown   of some sort on George Floyd's head.   It was like you know, it's smaller.   It it's a black background with, like, a three pointed,   what looks like a crown,   fixed   atop his crown or his Yeah. His cranium.  

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You could, you could, expect some Jew bastard communist, no doubt,   to come in and blasphem   blaspheme that.  

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Yeah. Okay. So here, I'm gonna I'm gonna drop the link in the, FCC chat so people can go go take a look at that. There's a there's a 19   report   about it.  

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Nineteen all of nineteen seconds? Nineteen seconds. They We don't wanna spend any time on this issue here, do we?  

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Yeah. Right. Say,  

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all the bricks in in a pile at George Floyd Memorial.  

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Uh-huh.   Right.   Oh, well, here. Let's see.   Alright. Let's let's just Can you play the nineteen seconds? Are you gonna try it? Yes. I can. He's gonna throw in the towel. A mural in Ohio dedicated to George Floyd has been destroyed.  

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The Toledo fire department says a lightning strike caused the brick wall to collapse yesterday.   A witness described seeing the lightning bolt strike the building. This is what the mural used to look like. Toledo Artist David Ross created it about a year ago. The mayor says the mural will be replaced.  

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Oh. Mhmm. Oh, so it's all politics is local. If all this stuff doesn't drive that point home to you, and that's where we can participate,   you are a state citizen as a national.   All politics is local. You can affect it at that level at at school board meetings, city council meetings,   however you choose. You can affect these things on how you vote, who you vote for, etcetera, etcetera.   It is important.   Federal different that doesn't apply to us,   k, for all intents and purposes. But this state stuff, where you live, who governs you locally, that does apply to you.  

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Yep. I I think it's interesting that God weighed in on the whole George Floyd thing by blowing up the building. Boy, that that didn't get any national news. When did that happen?   It happened in 2021,   July   sixteenth  

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fifteenth twenty twenty one. No. They weren't they weren't putting that out   at the end.   Wow. Well, thank you, God. Thanks for showing us away. It's kinda funny. Maybe we'll be able to follow in your steed   and take these bastards to the depths of hell, which they love so much. They just love the devil and his damn environment.   I I swear. I I agree with the only the only salvation for the world's Christianity,   folks. I don't know if you've come to that conclusion yet or not. For Brent say it, thought about it, noodle over   it numerous times,   and he's right.  

And, of course, that's never gonna happen because these creeps   are on it, and,   other folks have   oh, it's just it's it's just a,   it's a frustrating situation because the world could be   a a pretty damn nice place.   And,   of course, it would have its problems.   But, boy, what they've turned this into is, it's sickening.   I haven't heard too many,   updates on, on,   president Trump and his little   sojourn over there to   that very troubled part of the world trying to straighten it out.   Does anybody   has anybody heard anything on that? I mean,   yesterday, I didn't hear any real big things come out of it, but I know   I know they really respect Trump, folks.  

And I I know it's been talked about on here, but the significance   of the fact that what are they what what is his initials?   B B. The the   whatever. The new king. The young king. Oh, okay.   He was waiting at the airport when Trump's plane landed. Did you ever see that, Paul?  

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No. No. I didn't see that. The king  

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never goes to meet someone.   Never.   Ever.   Except when Trump comes.   And he greeted him at the bottom of the stairs.   Everywhere they went, when they travel over there,   there   is there like in Saudi,   this guy   here's a picture from above of the street,   and here's this,   well, no doubt heavily   armored car that Trump and whatever the king's initials are in there. And And there's maybe,   60 horses   on each side of the road.   They get a a horse   saber   riding   escort.   It is pretty cool, man. Really.   That's the hell, they wouldn't even take Biden's phone call.  

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Yeah. Okay.  

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So, so Trump is being   really welcomed over there, and I all those people,   I think, really feel the significance and the difference of the first time since   1948   and before the damn US and Sidon with these bunch of murder and lion thieving, slaving son of a bitches just to the west of them over there in Satan's sandbox.   The West didn't cater into them anymore. They don't have an Israeli   contingent   in his party. They're not going to Israel.   They're thumbing their nose, and those people over there know it and see it, buddy. They've never seen it before.   In the whole history since those bastards in 1948,   my birth year, unfortunately,   took over.  

Fifty seventy six years ago.   Okay?   Maybe seventy seven if this May thing was their anniversary.   But they've known what that the horror and the terror is. And for the very first time, you've got a leader   snubbing his nose at the Israeli   leader   and not including them in a contingent   on a trip into the neighborhood?   I mean, come on, Paul.   This is important.  

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Roger.  

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Yes. There's is that Sherry?   It is. I'm on my home phone. Am I quiet? Yeah. We can barely alright. Hold on. We can barely hear you,  

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but we can hear you. I'll speak loud. I have permission to speak loud already then.  

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Alright. Well, we can still barely hear you, but, yeah, it's very faint. Go ahead.  

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I pumped you up a little bit, Sherry. You don't have to yell.  

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Paul's pumping you up, girl. Thank you. They want to pump you up.  

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Trump is over in The Middle East. Guess who else is in Iran?   Putin.  

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Oh, is he? Good.   Listen, man. I'd love to see Putin and Putin and Trump like each other. They respect each other. K?  

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No doubt. Go ahead. So it seems anyway. And we don't know any better. But wouldn't it be fascinating   if, president Trump   took a side trip to Iran since the Iranians   are ready to negotiate?  

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Well, you know where he's you know where he's taking a side trip to? It ain't Iran. No.   Syria.   And when he said that in that meeting assembled in Saudi Arabia,   he got a three to five minute standing ovation.   He's gonna go over and go to you guys in Syria who Israel   has helped install because they can,   control and and and influence Al Qaeda, and they don't want him talking to the Syrian guy, and he's gonna go up and talk to him. He's gonna talk to a lot of these people over there that Israel hadn't wanted them talking to because they don't want him to get the truth. And he's over there. He's getting a truth finding mission right now.  

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Roger. Right. Well, Roger, we had just finished up with,  

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Yes, ma'am.  

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That   just because somebody   says this person is like that, until you meet them, you really have no idea of their character   or their character flaws.  

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Well, of course. So We've gotta take somebody's word. Well, that's why it's very important for you to know your sources   and the people that you are taking these words from. Okay? Correct. That's why when Laura Logan said that, like, yesterday,   it kinda blew my mind quite frankly. Well, I thought about it several times last night.   Okay. So you done, Sherry?  

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I am, Roger. Thank you.  

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Alright. See you, girl. Alright. Was it Robbie wanted to come in behind her?  

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I just wanted to I don't wanna,   be a buzzkill, but   Trump is majorly pushing the Abrahamic   accords on these other countries, Roger.  

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Well, I could be. At least he's looking for peace, Robbie. I I you just blow about Israel. About  

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Israel.  

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Well, you how what are you gonna do in the world that's not doesn't include Israel, Robbie?   Well, excuse me. What do you think you in a world, geology   situation. It's over in that part of the world that's not gonna include Israel. What the hell are you gonna how are you gonna do that? Well, I think he ought to cut him off 100%.  

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Well, he can. Since most of our administration   are dual Israeli citizens Well and so many billions of dollars every year go to Israel,   we need to get the hell out. I'm like Ron Paul. I'm an isolationist.  

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Okay. Me too. But what are you gonna do in the world, in that part of the world, in a geopolitical,   some sort of an agreement   to try and put a lid on the Israelis? That's what you're doing, is you're trying to put a lid on their absolute   maniacal   hatred and wanna kill everybody around them.  

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You gotta They own and control.   They own and control   us.  

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If it was up to me, I I'd like to see Iran drop a few nukes on them. K? That might that's what I'd love to see. Alright?   Alright. But the realism of it is you that's not gonna happen. Okay?   Okay. Well, I I don't know   how Trump could do a better job. Okay?   With both sides, the severity of it, the intensity of it,   the history of it.   I agree. That'd be great if the if Iran nuked those bastards.   Unfortunately, there's a lot of good Jews over there. They're to go in the process, but,   you know, what's they're saying? You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Right? Well, I heard something interesting. You might appreciate,  

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Tulsi Gabbard, apparently,   before she became   a a Trump adminster,   she was not a Zionist,  

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and now she is. Well, you can't get into the Trump administration without being a Zionist or at least saying you are. I know. And I think some of them are saying that they are on the surface and then maybe not adhering to that in the background. That's kind of some of the things I'm getting to, like, Hegseth.   Okay. Who who was yelling? Was that Julie? Some female was yelling. Okay.   No. I think she was rubbing it. It's a mess. It's a mess. Is these pastors made it a   mess?   Everybody knew it was gonna be a mess.   They they they killed the people that were opposing them, and they've been in control over there for seventy something years. They didn't call control our country because what we talk about here,   they control our country because you're all their damn slaves,   and you volunteer to do it. Roger?  

Yes.  

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Damn it. There's always one pesky little,   you know,   consideration with these these   criminals is,   they were forced   the Germans were forced to build them submarines, and they got 100 to 300 nuclear weapons.  

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Yeah. I know.  

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I know.  

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That's a problem   to deal with regardless of how They're to handle them. They're a problem,  

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period.   And they've been a problem  

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for two thousand years or more. And we haven't stopped shipping them or the Ukrainians weapons.   So when we get serious about stopping war, that'll be the final blow.  

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Well, the,   Netanyahu,   I heard yesterday as I was going out the door to lunch   for Tuesday.   Netanyahu made a statement in Yiddish   or   Hebrew, probably Yiddish,   that, well, we're gonna have to go find someplace else to get our weapons.   And it was translated and it got out.  

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So That's a lot of bullshit.   Well, it may be. Maybe, Samuel. I I just don't know if he ever shipped it. A lot of stuff that is Mossad, you know, handlers that we're we're still shipping plenty. They're they're they're at no lack and neither is Ukraine.   I don't know if Trump is still sticking to the Biden commitment with Ukraine or what, but,   you know,   hard to say.  

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Well,   yes. It is. And it's hard to keep up with it. There's so many damn things happening that are all so important. You know?   And they're all interconnected,   but yet they're not.   Yes. Is that Julie or Robbie? Or who's that?  

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Robbie.  

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The one thing that I am so gift you got you got the gift to gab today, don't you?  

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Yeah.   The one thing I am so   sick of hearing   is about all the Middle Eastern countries that can't have   nuclear weapons.   But, oh my, Israel is loud.  

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Why is that? All of them. It's not all of them. It's just one of them, Iran.  

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Just Iran? Well, who knows? I mean, I don't I don't think they allow anyone around them to have it. But why are they allowed to have it?  

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On paper, they don't have it. They're the big they they don't have them. They're not a member of the International   Atomic Energy Association   where they have inspections. None of that. They don't have any according to them, Robin.  

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Yes. They're they're accepting even reporting that they have some. Except for Vanunu. Got them. Does Vanunu does Vanunu  

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ring a bell?   Does the name Vanunu ring a bell with anyone?   No?   Vanunu was the Jew that squealed that they had nuclear weapons at Dimona that's been in a solitary consignment for god knows how many decades.   Vanunu was his name. Who was the guy trying to inject something there a second ago?  

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Yeah. Roger, have I got your attention?  

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I hope so. Hello? Who who is it who is it, first of all?  

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This is Boone. I I can hear you on occasion.   Okay, Boone. Well, glad to have you back. Yeah. No. I'm here all the time. I'm just in the background.   I posted in the chat,   Jan   Wapircheff's   website. I'm not sure I pronounce his the last name correctly. But if you want the lowdown South Africa, go to his website. It's it's brilliant.   And he's on a lot of different podcasts. He's got BBs,   Blackburn.   He's been on Monitor Shapers. So brilliant man. So it's in the web. It's in a a post it in the chat. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you, buddy. It's a very interesting subject. Obviously,  

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it's gonna be controversial   for a while now with mister Trump's actions, and I applaud what he did myself.  

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Yes, Dave? Just an FYI,   Wallach speaks Afrikaans.  

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What? What?  

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Wallach. He he he knows the language.  

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Oh, doctor Wallach. Okay. Yeah. Well, it's the only place it's the only place in the world   in the world that it's spoken   is there.  

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Yep. He he learned, I think, two or three African languages down there, and Afrikaans was one of them.  

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Right. And then these people say, well, they're you're you're they're destroying culture. Well, no. This is the culture right here. They're very unique   worldwide. These are them, and you're destroying it, folks. Not the other way around as you'd have us believe always   with your dialectical   crap.   Roger. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be.   You see, Samuel?   Who was trying to say something there? Rick.  

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I see, said the blind man.  

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Yeah.   Figuratively   and literally.   Rick, what do you got?   I think a good source of info on South Africa you   know? Yep. And he's there. He was he's an Africaner.   He grew up down there.   Yes.   He's he brought isn't he on about once a week with Andy?  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I really like the reader.   He's yeah. He's written extensively.   He's thoroughly familiar with that history. He's he's wonderful to listen to. I love that colonial accent, you know, they've got down there.   I had a friend I think I told y'all. I had a friend in Argentina   that, was from Rhodesia.   Just above them, they had gone through the same,   was it Mondavi or one of those guy?   Those guys where he came in, they had the civil war, and they   they, went   the fighters for Rhodesia, the white guys went down to South South Africa.   And Johnny was unreal. He was one of those guys that could fix or repair   anything.  

He'd go out to the old junkyards around down there, and he found a hundred year old   lawnmower   that was just in shambles, rusty. Oh, hell, he had that thing up and brushed, cleaned up, and working.   Hell of a guy.   And he married an Argentinian gal, a lawyer   architect, excuse me, and, Claudia.   And,   he had a sister in,   Australia.   And he went over to,   visit her. And when he was coming back, those flights that are coming back, going east stop in New Zealand.   And they saw that he had a South African   passport.   He called it a black mamba. It was one of the ones with the black covers, you know.   And, they kicked him off the plane because he had a South African passport.  

You know, Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat,   Pat, and her family. Her mother's a   worldwide   known tennis player.   And she sends the application   in,   and they refused it.   And the problem that they had   was her mom, you know, Padgett was telling her what she'd done. She go, I'll do that. So she gets   puts affidavit in there and never kept a copy of it. So when they refused, she didn't have anything to go back on because she didn't keep a copy.   Please, she couldn't go administrative   appeal because she couldn't prove what she sent them. Please, folks, don't do stupid stuff like that. That's just that's just not being on top of your game. Okay?   Keep copies of what you send. Be organized about it. It's your freedom. It's important.  

I I think it's important. Maybe you don't.   But if you do, you'll do the right things to help protect it, and that's one of them.   So anyway, there's a big penis erectus all over the world for people with a South African passport. Now if you'll remember, was it about a year ago   that Putin offered   anybody from the world that was under political prosecution   that they would lower the visa requirements   and let folks in. They give a land and stuff up there.   And I think   someone maybe can correct me. I think some of the Africaners went up there and took him up on that.   So, you know, something else is funny happened at lunch on Tuesday.  

We had this guy that somebody else brought.   New guy, and he was had a hat on. Weird looking hat   for for Ecuador in our time of the year. And we finally got to talking to him a little bit at the end,   and he's Russian.   You know?   And,   so I was I said, well, you know, myself and this Canadian guy over here, we're pretty big Putin fans. You know? And the guy goes, I hate the son of a bitch.   Oh, okay. Well, whatever.   I I didn't get to talk to him for much time as to why,   but,   I I I hold mister Putin in high esteem.   So where else can we go? Let's see. We got a couple of minutes till we exit out of the hour first hour, guys. What, Paul? It would be really interesting  

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to hear,   the basis behind his impression of Putin  

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because Well, he did say if I was a political diss   dissident, I'd be in jail and stuff like that. And I look. Putin's got a 90 something percent approval rate. He's been elected for   seven consecutive times or something.  

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Yeah. But but you really can't take that   as   proof that that he's a good guy.   That could also be an indication if everybody's afraid not to vote for him.  

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Well Could be. I I don't You know? I don't know. The people that don't like him,   the small percentage,   they don't like him because they don't think he's tough enough.  

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Oh, no. No. No. He has titanium,   gonads.  

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Absolutely. I just I think the guy's just a hell a hell of a statesman. Now who who who's trying to say something there?  

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You you didn't wanna say something? Sounds like somebody's unmuted, and they have a side conversation going on. Well, we're gonna hear the May I, Paul?  

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Paul? Can you be quick? Can you be quick?  

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Yep. Yes, sir.   Paul,   are you or Brent going to announce about the call for,   Jim Ram today? Or  

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Yeah.   Actually, I'm going to do that Thank you. In just a moment.   There you go. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the earlier the earlier program, the the,   Tuesday program or Monday program,   it turned into kinda like a health related,   call. It was kinda sort of a a tribute to Jim Ram,   and,   and and it naturally evolved into   health related discussions.   Well, today   at at 1PM   eastern   on the FCC channel,   38   rebel madman,   38 rebel madman   will be   a tribute   to Jim Ram.   And,   that does it for   our first hour,   compadres,   one zero six point nine FM W B O U   Chicago   and radiosoapbox.com.  

Don't forget about Paul English live at 3PM eastern. That will be on the Global Voice Network.   And,   oh, stop on by the 38   Mad Men FCC room for the Jim Ramm program at 1PM eastern,   and,   Global Voice Radio Network will be continuing to stream the after show for   the,   radio ramp. Thanks for joining us.   Yep. Hey, Paul, if I may. Go ahead, Dave. Don't ask me. It's Roger Show.  

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Well, I want I wanna ask you. Are you gonna stream that? Because   I don't have an I can't put a app on this little flip phone. Is there a phone number I can dial?  

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I don't know what the number is. I could probably get it.   Somebody else might know.   It,   it I am going to record it. I won't be streaming it anywhere. It's not my program. It's not my content. You can't play it in the room?  

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Mike will be recording it too. It will be in his Telegram channel, apparently.   Okay. And the number is 727   I can get it. I'll look.  

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Please.   Could somebody text that number to me, please, at this my phone number?  

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Yeah. I don't have text ability, but I'll put it in the chat so someone can.  

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Thank you. Bye.  

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Alright.   Where else can we go?   Hey. Roger. There's somebody way off.  

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Who is it? Oh, I'm sorry. It's Mike.  

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Oh, hey, Mike. We haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing?  

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Hello. I'm good to go to lunch. Hey. Is Mark available? Is he on the line today yet?  

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He's not with us today. Usually, Wednesdays and Saturdays for sure.  

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Okay. I got remember I was talking to you last week about getting some information from our company with the,   Alabama revenue department sent them?   Yes, sir. Well, I thought I got it in, and guess what? All it says is a writ of garnishment,   no judge's signature,   no court case, no court's number, just a bureaucrat signature saying that I owe them  

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I that smells that's just a self help remedy of garnishment.   There's process that has to lead up to that.   I I don't know. Well, I'll tell you, Mike, something that came up has been a conversational   topic around here occasionally on this certificate of noncitizen   nationality.   And there there   there's a school, there's a statute that seems to suggest   that under certain court circumstances and whatnot,   that you can request one of those   from the secretary of state.   And in your situation with the change, I'm sure if Biden's team was in there, it'd be a waste of time, and it may be a waste of time with with Rubio's folks. But it may be worth a little,   an ask from you.  

Address them and say, can I get I'm in this situation in Alabama? My affidavit's on file. They're refusing to   recognize it. Could I please get a statement on my nationality from the state department?   Just a suggestion.  

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Yeah. It's just pit it just pisses me off because there's no there's no judge, no court, nothing. It's just a bureaucrat with their signature.  

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Yep. Yep. And and they're they're supposed to be   some your signature   allowing them to do that on a contract somewhere.   And, of course, I don't know your state tax laws and all that, but that seems to be what they're relying on is that they have the ability to do this and you gave it to them. And if you can find out that they're exercising this without you giving them that permission,   you might could go after them that way too.  

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Yeah. I was gonna   I I was gonna get Mark's email because I scanned it. Well, I can give you Mark's email.  

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Oh oh, I can give you Mark's email. Okay? You got a pencil?  

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You got my email. Just shoot it over too.  

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Okay. I'll try I'll do my best to remember it, Michael. Okay?  

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I'll I'll send you an email tonight   and, just to remind you. Alright.   Thank you. When I when I stand,   and it just it was just it was suspicious. It's like someone standing up, hey. You owe me money,   and you're gonna pay it.  

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They there's a process involved with any self help remedy,   and,   that is where they may be failing. They're just coming after you without the process   or without your signature allowing them to do this. Now on some kind of state tax form you previously filed, although those are year to year,   I don't think they should carry over a year. I think there's a weak spot on them right there. I think they're doing that without proper authority.  

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Well, I've never I haven't filed a state income tax or a federal income tax since 1999.   Mhmm. They're relying on Well They're You know? They're relying on what the company sends, the state of Alabama.   They that's only evidence we got.  

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You may want to confront them on that and say, my records show you're garnishing my wages here. Where's the underlying contract that I signed   that gives you,   that where I gave you permission to do this?  

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Because, like I said, I I logged on to the federal because I was looking at my Social Security a couple months ago, and I just   checked IRS.   And this is I have no income for the last ten years.   No tax liability whatsoever.  

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Well, the the you you know, right there see, these people are so far out on a limb, man. If you've got that from the feds that you had no federal income for ten years or whatever,   then there is no state tax owed because there's no federal owed. Now that's just plain right out in the open.   Now you got these people with their penis erectus for you coming out and garnishing your wages   when you haven't even filed a paper with them. And there's there's there's a really weak point right there that you ought to leverage because I guarantee you they're just doing it out of spite.  

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Yeah. Because   to them, they said I was the tax protester,   and the and the state of Alabama code   says they can tax anybody even if they're a nonresident alien, a domicile, a lizard, a lizard. It doesn't  

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matter. That doesn't matter. They said they For them to   hold Mike, for them to execute a garnishment,   you have had to have given them permission   in a contract somewhere,   like on a federal tax form when you file a ten forty. I agree to abide by all the,   but the title 26 CFR,   the rules and regulations and stuff. You've got to give them that permission to do that somewhere.   And I think they're out of line. And I think with their vindictiveness   for you   that there's a whole bunch of people out of line over there. This magistrate,   this taxing   the state taxing authority,   the,   with the at least those two.  



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Yeah. I just it just pisses me off that that they just they they don't care. And I was gonna get ahold of Mark and see what we can send them a No. Yeah. Well, you can come back you can come back Saturday, or I'll if I can send you an email or if you'll send me one if should I forget.  

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If they're not one waiting for me when you get home, then send me one. Okay?   I have work I work It went so easy. My Mark, it's I Mike, it's so easy.   Strawman@mark,allcaps,.com.   Okay.  

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@markallIworkat.com.  

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It's easy one to remember.  

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I work seven to noon Saturday, but I'll be listening.  

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Okay.  

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Excuse me. Okay. I'm a I'll let you go then.  

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Okay. Thank you, Mike. Glad to know you're out there, man. I'm sorry you're having to go through all this. You're the one person  

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out of all these years. Hey, Mike. Why not? Just bend over in public.  

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Just,   it's,   a travesty, and we need to have some way   to hold these bureaucrats' feet to the fire.   K?   I'm sure sorry,  

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Hey, John. Hi. Hey.  

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Could I can I just give the phone number, Dave, if you're listening? Because you have a good memory.   Do you want do you want it, Dave?  

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You know what? Robbie just called me and gave it to me. Thanks, Murph. Okay. Appreciate  

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it. Thank you, Robbie.  

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Alright. You'll   yeah.  

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You're right. Yes,  

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sir.   I guess Jim is on that   on that that big catamaran   in the sky. That was his goal, you know,   was, to have one of the he wanted to buy this million dollar sailboat,   special handmade everything, and,   that was what he was striving for. He was taking navigational   lessons on on on the Internet and all kinds of stuff and wanted to get that catamaran and sail around the world. That was Jim's dream and goal. I guess he's in my catamaran. With,  

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something that he told himself   about himself.  

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So and in there, yeah, he did windsurfing and, you know, you could tell what his what he enjoyed by what he wrote about himself. Yeah. Well, he's big. He loves sailing, and and I we used to talk about it a lot because I I love sailing too. I've been doing it.   Oh, I did it for a few decades.   So, anyway, didn't have a million dollar catamaran, though. And I don't say can't say that I want one, quite frankly.   Especially these days, sailing is very dangerous these days because there's all kinds of pirates out there where all the nice little islands in the Caribbean you could use to sail to from all the ports on the East Coast. Well, they're loaded with with damn,   banditos   now, basically.  



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Yeah. And some of those pirates are coast guard, coasty.  

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What what is that noise that's I'm trying to get in here, John   from Georgia.   His mic is open, and I'm just interested to find out if he has something to say.   I've been trying to get in here for, like, five minutes.  

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Well, it's hard when we we got diarrhea of the mouth here. Took an excellent hiccup as my old friend used to say. Oops. John from Georgia, are you trying to get in here or what?  

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No. He just he just muted. Hey. Good afternoon. No. Actually, I I just joined in, Roger, and I didn't really was unmuted. I apologize.  

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But Okay. No problem.   Yep. Okay. Get out. Good to hear from you. Glad you're there. So does anybody else have anything to bring to the table here on the things we've discussed or   or any of this stuff?  

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No? Hey. Hey, Rogers. William. Hey, William.   I'm still dealing with my little tax situation with the state. Yeah.   So, apparently,   my case was in remand. I thought it was for sixty days. It was ninety days. Yeah. And so,   and so   they opposed my appeal,   for   judgment because,   they said, well, it was in remand for ninety days, and then   it was,   we answered within thirty days.   Then that fell on a weekend, which was like they answered in a hundred and twenty two days. So,   it looks like I'm my   rebuttal.  

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Okay. So you answered over the time or they they answered over the time? You know?   You tell us these things, and you you're living it. We just hear it, and   and and it could get confusing. So which one of those was it? Your appeal Neither one of them. Waited too long? Either one. I filed it, January 3,  

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and then,  

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the the the  

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they they remanded it to the revenue department.   Yes.   And I saw on the paper, it said sixty days, but it it said ninety days and to and to reach out to the revenue department if you didn't hear anything in sixty days. So,   they had ninety days to sit on it, and then, they had thirty days beyond that   to file an answer, which they did.   Okay. So   now I'm just kinda leaning on my, opposition for them to dismiss   because,   they're saying that that they don't have subject matter jurisdiction because the county collected it and administered it. So But they're the state agency. What kind of bullshit is that?  

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Right.   So I appeal I appeal that, so we'll see. I mean, I, you know, put it in opposition to to dismiss. But When they start coming up you know, William, when they start coming up with things like that, you kinda know you got something on them. Yep. So they're gonna,  

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I got a feeling the tribunal judge is just gonna just gonna dismiss it. So,   I guess my only option then is to take the county tax commissioner to small claims court.  

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You might. Yep. Yep. That might be. You could do that pro se.   And I'd   oh, you'd be taking the office to court, not the man. I don't know. I I just don't know. We're I'm I'm never   pushed a lot of stuff. Everything that we know about it is kinda theoretical and conceptual.  

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Right. I just,   I'm trying to figure out where I need to go if if things go the way I think they're gonna go with with this tax tribunal.   They're gonna wiggle up and drop under it.  

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Jack came on at the end of the show.   I think yesterday might have been an overtime, maybe at the end of the show. He said, where is it that   you can see that nationals don't have to adhere to any of this?   And I've been thinking about it. At the time, I I told him,   look. They've gone to great lengths to hide this. Look at the link. You think they're gonna put it someplace where you can read it? Really?  

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Right.  

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I I feel like and I would I've thought about the analogy.   You've seen one of the blind guy on the street   with a white stick with a red painted, and he's feeling his way down the street.   Yeah. That that's how I had to do this   over many years   because I felt like the blind guy going, oh, up. Up. Up. There's an obstacle on one step on that. I used to think that there was something you could do   to bring in the condition   Even   back when I was still in Atlanta, you know, and   end of the century, first start of the century up to 02/2003.   And so,   I've had to, all these years, just like the guy blind guy with the cane,   go along and tap it in front of me and see and when I don't hit something.  

So there is no place that they're gonna say, oh, Nashville, you're you're out of our jurisdiction.   I mean, it's just it's naive, honestly, Jack. Not not a malintent on you, but it's kinda naive, and you think about that once you know our enemy and know what we've got here.   It's just by the sheer grace of God, folks, that we're here with this answer. Well, the reg does say, you know, it applies to   residents, and you're not one of those. So is that an apology? Yeah. But but how all the other people out there in the whole world think it means where you live. They don't know that what it means like we do.   Yeah. So,   so, yeah, I just thought that was pretty appropriate of where my life has been. And I was dinging all the time, you know, with my little stick there   and   something dung that said Argentina, and I had to go get a passport and read the application.  

And that happens to be   the one document   in the entire   federal government where they've got to show you what's going on even though they'll go to whatever lengths to hide it. They've got to tell you in there. And because I knew all the background stuff   and had been looking, just didn't know what the label was, It was that document   on the first page   when I looked at the top of the first page I had them, and I knew it. K? When I saw that warning box and it said you can include the documentation   including affidavits,   I knew I had them right there,   the word affidavit.  

So it's only by this grace of God, folks, that we're here. And I include myself in that. K? Because   even though I did, I had this big curious,   It just kept digging and digging. I never would let go. It just kept in my mind. I couldn't get it off my mind. I thought about it every day   for years   until I saw that passport application.   Bam. The one document   in the entire arsenal   of all those agencies up there where they basically   got to tell you. I guess the forty four seventy three over on BATF is maybe another one. But that that one right there,   secretary of state warning box. You can attach affidavits.  

Bam. Gotcha.   Gotcha. Slimers.  

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Gotcha. Got a guy. I had a guy ask me, Roger. He said he said, you're still a citizen, though, right, of The United States?   Yeah. Yeah. I said I said, yeah. Until you're ex patriot, you are, but,   I don't identify as one. You know? I'm not,   if there's people identifying as cats, dogs, the opposite gender, why can't I identify as this?  

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Yep. Well,   the thing is is you could have come back at him and shown him the equivocation   was, are you a citizen of The United States? I'm not. I'm a citizen of The United States Of America.   And even though those two look to be the same, they're totally 100 opposite.   Roger. Because that's what a national is, is a citizen of The United States Of America. You could also call yourself a state citizen. They don't label it that way now, but that is what it is. Again, this is where they just change the labels,   and they got the whole damn world fooled on it. Simple little trick. Yes. Yeah. Thanks. This is Dave.  



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You know,   I I don't watch TV, but I I do tune in to, you know, the top of our   national news on the radio a lot, and it's ABC Radio.   Every single time   they talk about   any foreigner,   they call them a national National. Of their country.   Every single time now, Roger.   I'm not Why are we the national of their country, and we aren't nationals of our country because of that fourteenth amendment?  

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So Well, no. It's not all. Obvious  

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in our face.  

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Don't forget, Dave.   You're you contributed   to the condition. You answered the questions yes Oh, I know. Signed something.   K? I know that. So when all of them satisfied your ears.   It's just based on layer and layer and layer fraud. And what what did what did Tom Schramm used to say? I thought this is pretty accurate.   Fraud isn't fraud until it's discovered.   So we've been living under our whole life, but it was normal.   But now we've discovered it. Now it's fraud. Now we can hang up, put their feet on the fire. Fraud isn't fraud   until it's discovered.  

It's just accepted   until it's discovered and and named as fraud. Right? And then when you've gotten yourself into a situation   where you've recognized and identified some fraud, what do you do? Well, it's gotta be a around a contract,   So you go back to the person you contracted with. That's exactly what we do. By their methods, their guidelines,   we include the affidavit in with passport applications   and send it to them cold. That's our official even though we might have already decided it in our minds.   And at that point, yes, you are a national. All you're doing now is letting them know in the official capacity   that that has taken place, and they can't say no. Right. They cannot   unless you're in Alabama,   they can't say no.  

Yes.  

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Yeah. I I'm I'm   trying to wrap my head around that fraud isn't fraud until it's discovered. That that's like   saying if your neighbor's robbing you blind coming in your house at night when you're asleep or not home, it's not robbery until you discover it. I I'm you know, I it's fraud. Whether you discover it or not, it's fraud. It's a sham. Yeah. But you'll well  

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okay. But it was fraud. You've   been your in it your whole life. How come you didn't have that attitude   all the earlier decades?   Well, because I didn't know about it. But Well, the fact  

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fraud when they planned  

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it. Well, it it wasn't fraud. It was just operating. Everybody was going along with everything the way they thought it was until you discovered it and pinpointed it on somebody. You gotta go pin the tail on the donkey with it. You can't just go running down the street. Hey. I'm in fraud. I've been fraud. Hell, I've been you'd have to. You can't do that.   You gotta identify it with the person that committed the fraud to let them know that the contract's no longer viable because fraud vitiates   all and any contract ab initio.   That means it violates it. It's null and void from the time you sat down at the table with them. Sorry, bastards.  

We're gonna get you Hey, Roger. There's there's not very many of us now, you little son of a bitches. But I'm gonna tell you what, one of these days, I may not be alive. Okay? I'm gonna feel like Martin Luther King. I may not be there with you. Okay? I may not be here, But one of these days, this information   of this compilation of three men's lives that made so much sacrifice   to get to this point where we nailed your ass. And to my knowledge, we're the only ones in the history of this world that have ever had you backed in a corner like this.   Never has it happened to you before. Yes, Paul. It was Larry.  

Larry. Sorry. Hey, Larry. Hey.  

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So I've been listening to William since he came on, and, of course, I'm familiar with his   story.   I was wondering if he could, resummarize   what   what happened recently because I wasn't really clear, like, if what the hang up is. And, also, I was wondering if he ever looked up the the definition of resident   in the tax code, and what does it say exactly?  

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I don't know if there's a description.  

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There's a there's a definition of a citizen in The United States.   This is in the federal tax code.   I don't know if they define resident.  

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Go ahead. Yeah. The the the Georgia code,   it doesn't define state.   It doesn't define resident. All the ones that you see in the in the federal   definition section,   A lot of those aren't defined. They've got definitions that are specific to the subsections   of the OCGA.   But what had happened was I paid a tax. I bought my wife a car, and, of course, I didn't want to ruffle feathers, so I had to get a tag.   And to get a tag and to get to get the title,   the certificate of title,   you have to pay this tax to get the certificate of title,   which is not a document that I necessarily need. But if I ever wanna transfer   ownership of the vehicle   to another serve, they're gonna need that certificate of title.  

So I had to pay this tax to get the certificate of title, which I don't really even need,   because   title 42,   section nineteen eighty two, says that the white citizens have the same rights to own property in The States as The US citizens do. And so,   you know, that tax wasn't applicable to me. And so   I applied back to the county office using the   state revenue department's form   to have the tax refunded   as a nonresident alien.   And the county attorney, after three months, basically turned me down and said that I had supplied a Social Security number, so I was subject to the laws of the state.   And so then I was kinda dead in the water trying to figure out where to go,   and I found this Georgia tax drive, you know, where you could you could appeal any state tax,   supposedly.  

And now they're saying that this tax is outside of their jurisdiction.   So I filed I filed with the tribunal,   and,   and now the state attorney general is coming back and saying, nope.   We don't have subject matter jurisdiction over over this state tax,   only   specific state taxes, I guess.   Whatever they feel like they wanna What a load of malarkey.   So now I'm I'm basically you know, as Mark says, you gotta you gotta extinguish all your administrative remedies.   So at this point, I feel like I've   I I didn't wanna go to court or try to go to a small claims court and say, oh, well, you were supposed to take it to the tax tribunal. You know? And,   I don't want   my only concern if I go to small claims court is that they're gonna try to screen qualified immunity, you know, and that's where the government you can only sue the government if they allow you to,   is is basically what I've determined qualified immunity is. So   I don't know if if that'll play. I'm not sure. I'm not an attorney, and I don't wanna spend   a bunch of money, but I'll, you know, I'll go I'll go pay the filing fees and try to represent myself and but I don't wanna set bad precedent either.  



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Right. Well, you won't. You don't set precedent at that level.   You are the only the first place precedent is set is at the appellate level on anything.  

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Okay. Yeah. I just didn't wanna I didn't wanna disparage what we were doing, you know, going Mhmm. Making a claim and make a mistake somewhere.  

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No. You're gonna learn by this, and that that does not set precedent. So don't let that   cloud your, decision making. Okay. You understand why.   Yeah. The the reason that is   is because they want to allow   for these courts at the local level to make those decisions without having to follow something.   Okay?   Okay. Because that can change.   And so it's only when you get to the appellate level. And then, for example,   you might appeal whatever local decision you have to the appellate level of the state of Georgia   so that once they decide on those issues,   then it's precedent for the whole state,   for anyone else that comes with another case with those similar issues.  

Okay. That's the way it works. Okay.  

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So it looks like I'm just getting blown off, you know, every way that I go. And my only other option was to not pay the tax,   not get the title, and not get a tag for my car, and have my loan Also,  

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I wanna say you don't have to have a title to transfer it. You could probably transfer it with just a bill of sale. Yeah. I probably could.  

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If the vehicle's over twenty five years in Georgia, they can get a tag without the title.   But if it's, if it's newer than twenty five years old, you'll have to have a title when you go to register it in Georgia.   Okay. Hey, William. Yep.  

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Hey. This is John. Since Hey, John. I I actually have something to add here since, you know, you and I are neighbors.   Yeah. I I didn't do anything differently with the BMT or Bureau of Motor Vehicles or DOT than I did with anyone else. I've been blanketed them with,   copies of my affidavit. So the last five vehicles I've purchased,   two of which for motorcycles and three four wheeled vehicles,   I haven't been charged any tax.   I didn't it's never been discussed. It was never brought up. I go to the window. Here's what's due. I write a check, and I leave. I've never said a word to anyone. Yeah. I haven't been so lucky.   I mean, it's   possible. I don't really I don't know which department   ultimately was the one that was the right lever to pull. But if you pull enough levers, eventually, you'll find it.  



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Okay.   I did blank it. You know? I did notice everybody   down to the county sheriff.   I did notice the tax commissioner   separately, so may,   I I only noticed the,   the state   tax, the commissioner.   I didn't notice the county tax commissioner. So Yeah.   But he he knows now because I sent it to him in the appeal. So he's he's noticed now.  

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Good. Well, we applaud what you're doing, William, in pressing the envelope and and learning.   And it's really over the past. It's about the only way we ever did learn was to press the envelope.   Then we get some answers.   So I appreciate the   sacrifice you're making to do this and wanting to help everybody out here as we all learn   collectively.  

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There is questions about the the state jurisdiction, and that's   that's my question too. You know? So I'm trying to figure that out  

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as as part of the game here. Well, again, this goes back to that   what we really should spend some time on, shame on me too.   Shame on me primarily maybe,   is, this allegiance for protection protection and allegiance and how that switches when you file the affidavit   underneath. And I'm I'm virtually sure all those people in those higher state offices don't understand this.   You know, I heard that we played that guy the other day, going over the birthright citizenship thing.   And and here he's reading the fourteenth amendment, and he doesn't even identify   person as being under the fourteenth amendment.  

All persons born or naturalized?   That's fourteenth amendment persons. That's where you're getting your civil rights and other duties. But that lawyer didn't even identify that or explore on it. Was it because he didn't know or he didn't wanna waste the extra time and distraction,   or what? I'm I'm my theory is, I bet you he doesn't know that   difference, that key acid test question. What's the the definition of buying the legal concept of the word person? I bet you didn't know that, William.   So   that, that again is something we after we've spent time on this   and it got it down in our minds,   we just kind of automatically think that all these other people know this too. And folks, they don't.  

They don't.   And William's example   with the sitting magistrate judge,   a sitting magistrate judge   in,   in Augusta, Georgia, I assume,   and William asked him what's the legal concept behind the word person, and a sitting magistrate judge didn't know the answer to that. That ought to tell you tons. Yes, sir.   There's two cases that, established non immunity of the state to be sued,   and it's, Owens versus City of Independence   and another one is Maine versus Thibodeaux.   Uh-huh. So they can sue the state.   Says you can sue the state.   Yeah. It says that the state officers,   they can't say they prosecuted you in good faith if they're if you know the law. They can't say they did it in good faith because as officers of the law, they're required to know the law. Yeah. Known or should've known. They're in the office. If they didn't know it, they should've known. It's  

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no excuse.  

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Ignorance of the law, it's no excuse. They hit us with it. We gotta hit them with it. Well, they they've got a public office. They they got a duty to know or should've known.   That's what hinges on that protection for allegiance,   allegiance for protection. Listen, folks.   That's been a standard for over a thousand years. There's nothing new. Okay? It's just that they were never taught that. And when you file that affidavit,   that's exactly what happens. You don't owe the allegiance to the federal government. You owe it to the state government and automatically   brings in that they owe you protection.  

Protection from things like the intrusion of your formal slave master, former slave master, the federal government. The intrusion   of as a political subdivision, state agencies that may encroach on you   as of as a protection   against things like,   sheriffs and and state police pulling you over for going two miles over some speed limit that you're not required   to adhere to. All those things. So that's what they're supposed to be protecting you from instead of protecting you. Hell, they're prosecuting you. Look at Michael Nail.   Michael Nail is a perfect example.  

So that is where you could take them to court right there. But I would like for for us to get up something. My fault too, we're all busy and scattered. We're not organized. We're not getting paid,   is to write up some sort of a brief memorandum of law short as possible that you could submit   to the attorney general with your notice. Yes, Paul.  

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The the only problem with that is that   they're being persecuted and prosecuted   by slaves.  

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I mean, if Yes. If they only knew they were if they only knew they were slaves, maybe they wouldn't be doing this stuff. That's what we're trying to do with a lot of this is not only to free ourselves, but to be able to educate others.   That's why I harp and harp on learn the information.   Learn the information. Learn the information.   That's how free you are, how good a command you have of the information. You can't teach anybody else if you don't understand it. If you paid David Strait to file some 31 page piece of bullshit,   $400,   you didn't go learn all that stuff. Bruce, was that you? That's all me. Did you hear what I said? I was following you up earlier. Did you hear that? Oh, you did. No. I I had been, taking care of my lady. So I'm I'm Okay. Dedicated  

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to.   Okay. That's fine.  

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Right. Well Anyway God God bless you. What you what you got, and then I'm gonna enlighten you. We'll see   if I am. Go ahead. Okay.  

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They are the enemy of the state, trading with the enemy of the state.   We're not gonna trade   with the enemy of the state. We're not in that law.  

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They are. No. They're the enemy. Right. Yeah. And they're they're in demonizing on you, if that's a word. If it's not what it ought to be.   Bruce, we're talking extensively about South Africa here in the first part of the show and these current events that are bringing that subject up.   Did you know that part of the makeup of South Africa was French Huguenots?  

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Oh, yeah. We are everywhere.  

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Okay. Well, I didn't know that until yesterday.  

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We were the people that started the civil war.  

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Well, I knew that. I just didn't I knew that you came over to South Carolina. I don't where else did any Huguenot bands settle in other parts of the Eastern Seaboard, or was it mainly South Carolina?  

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Mainly South Carolina because they could come through Charleston   and go cross country   to,   the the king's   land.   And,   he gave him refuge over there. And that's at Abbeville, Louisiana, right there at the coast on where the where the boot   is in the middle.   It's a little town, and it and it's a copy of the original town in France. Oh, I'll be darned. I didn't even Louisiana  

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affiliation didn't know that. But I was just, surprised.   I heard Laura Logan talking about it yesterday on Alex. They're discussing all this, and,   and I just didn't know the Huguenots were down there. They evidently she said there's Italians down there too. I didn't know they went down either, but that's a really unique situation down there in South Africa.   Because there's two groups of whites. There's three just separate ones, but two of them kinda band up. I was saying this earlier because this is what she said yesterday.   And the two groups of whites hate each other more than the blacks hate the whites.  

And that is the Afrikaners   and the Boers  

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and hate the English, and the English hate the Afrikaners and Boers. When we came over, we started the Presbyterian Church. Presbyterian Church is right across the street from me here   in   in, Missouri.   Yeah. Okay. It's my world in it.  

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Well,   at times.   So, anyway, did you, get your point across, Bruce? Well, I think I did. I could rephrase it for for a former for a former,   fellow southern boy. Did you did you get your piece out there, Bruce?  

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I'm still working on it.   Okay.   Always.   And I'm learning too   new stuff. In fact, I learned about this today.   Get this now. You're sitting down.   When you use your credit card or your your   direct deposit card or whatever you're using,   the amount you put on that,   when you   did the digits and the amount came up with, how much you owe,   and you put your card in there,   well, guess what? They double dip. What you put Well What what the cost is,   that card will put that money on, but they will double it and hold it for three days to make sure that you got that money in there. So they're double dipping every time you use your card. Now how about that?  

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Okay. Well, I'm not so they they're putting it in the three day where it float where they can invest it for three days and get the extra interest. Is that what you're saying?   Exactly. Well, goddamn. Well, they're Jews.   Well, they're Jews. What the hell out should you expect?  

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No. I don't expect them to come back behind me. I had no idea that they did that until today. Well, okay. Well, you should shouldn't be so naive at your age, Bruce.  

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Well, I don't know. I don't know everything, Roger. I I don't know. Well, you're like brother Dave Gardner. You know? You're like brother Dave Gardner. You remember him? I I don't remember him. I don't think I've I've probably listened to Southern know who he was. Well, he he was a Southern comedian. I think he was out of Memphis, actually, but he used   to say he was in front of an audience and somebody asked him a question. And he said, well, I don't know.   And the guy goes, well, I thought you knew everything. He goes, well, I do know everything, but I don't know that.  

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I don't remember him.  

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That must have been back in the early sixties or something. You know? Hell, man. I'm ancient. That's about when it was probably. Oh, well, I'm there too. 50 would be Hey. I'll tell you   I'll tell you when when it was. It was so long ago that his comedy routines   were on long playing phonograph records at 33   and a half RPM. Oh, yeah. Okay.  

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Yep.   But that was good stuff there.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. World was a There are   In many ways, a lot nicer place back then, wasn't it, Bob?  

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Well, I don't quite go back that far, but, yeah, in general.   Hey. Just an interesting little aside. It's nothing to do with us in particular, but it is generally.   Citizen Free Press just to add this up. I guess ABC News carried it, but   they have   figured out that Harvard   actually has   an original copy   of the Magna Carta.   Oh. And there were, like, six of them that were printed after the first, you know, the original.   Yeah. They had other ones printed up   in the style and font and manner of the original so they could be put different places. You know?   Yes, sir. And this was was in some   particular   location in England for some number of years, they think. They can't prove it, but the font,   the style   under, you know, all kinds of extensive investigation   proves that it is one of the original copies.  

Wow. And they've had   it since 1947   and had no idea of its authenticity.   It was purchased back then for, like, $27,   which, of course, I realized in '47 that meant a lot more than $27   does now. But still,   it was assumed to just be kind of a it was tattered and torn, but they just still thought it was a novelty. They didn't realize what they had.   And,   Yeah. You know, it informs our present law,   and I just thought that was interesting. Might be interesting to the folks on here.  

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It seems like there was another copy that went up for auction a a few years back.  

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Yeah. $27,000,000.   And they're claiming that this one, given that fact,   would probably command in the range of 30 to 35,000   $35,000,000   just given   that its authenticity has been verified now.   Well, it's, it's in pretty poor condition, but it's still readable.  

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Yeah. It's a document that changed changed the world.  

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Sure enough. Did.  

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Anyway, that's what I had. I just thought that was very interesting. Of you well, yes, sir. Thank you for bringing that forward because it gives me a chance to plug tomorrow's   cohost, Brent Winters,   and the fact that with his weekly   little sessions that he does on Thursdays when he's doing them with   the sheriff Darleaf,   they did one on the Magna Carta   that was supposed to be, like, twelve weeks that ended up being thirty six or forty eight or something.   But Brent has already gone over one of those really in-depth   discussions of him and sheriff Darr,   breaking that down word by word, caused by Claude, verse by verse. So some of you ever wanna go back and avail yourself of that, that's in,   over on Brent's,   commonlawyer.com   website back in   the Inns Winter's Inn.  

Excuse me.   Winter's Inn, I believe.   He calls it. Let me get this clear. Y'all go ahead and talk, please.  

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Damn. I got a breaking news from yesterday in Michigan.   I don't I didn't hear anybody talk about it.   They said that they arrested   a Michigan   National   Guardsman   who was plotting  

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to bomb  

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a military   post of some sort in in my   where I grew up in Warren, Michigan.   We have a we have a tank arsenal there that's,   where they, you know, they make tanks. It's been there forever, and we have a,   I can't remember what it's called. It's a where they store weapons.   What the heck is that? An armory Arsenal. An armored Armory. I think they call it the the 8 Mile Armory or something like that.   It's been a long time since I've been down there, but they said he was   affiliated with Isis.   And they they   they sort of this plot to bomb you know they didn't say what the facility was   but they said it was a military   facility in Warren Michigan and I just thought that was awful curious,   that an ISIS   fighter would be in the Michigan National Guard.  

And,   I I can't remember all the details. I meant to mention it on, Mark's,   you know, Liberty Tree yesterday and but then we had company, so I never really got,   got a chance to really get on that.   So I don't know if he mentioned it, if Brent's on here, if Brent might know anything from Mark talking about it.   I'd be curious   to know more info. But, anyway, I thought that was, you know,   interesting.   ABC National News,   from yesterday,   and I yield.  

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Somebody have something to add to that they know about?   Guess not, Dave. Well, okay.   They we're gonna see some strange stuff   up in if if they are going for this summer   civil war deal, which I   pretty sure they are.   We're gonna see all kinds of stuff here as we go forward. It's not good. They've been having these people join the military   for years,   national guard and active duty, Dave, just so they can familiarize themselves with all these ultra   high impact military weapons. Roger? You have? Yes, sir.   Yes, sir.  

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Oh, I didn't wasn't sure. Yeah.   I just wanted to say something about when you have a choice between   what kind of citizen you wanna be.   Anything that be is a choice is is is political, and the courts aren't supposed   to interfere with that. That's supposed to be your will, and they're supposed to support it. So we don't   if they don't support it. The law.  

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If if they don't support it, your will, it's tyranny, isn't it? If they're telling you what you are, it's tyranny. I don't think there's another label you can put on it, is there? Yeah. I think that's why when you go go into these courts, they don't  

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they don't wanna recognize it because   they're used to dealing with citizens, and that's what they're set up for.   Yep. It's true. And those lower courts really probably have no idea what's going on. They're just the the lowest form   of administrative   paper pushers,   and you really don't enter anybody who will probably even, understands or studies law Uh-huh. Until you get to an appeal.  

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To to to my knowledge Hey, Roger. In all these all these years hold on a second, Gary. In my knowledge,   we never run across anybody that knew this information   no matter how educated or or scholarly they were.   Yes. Is Gary, is that you, buddy?  

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Yes.  

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Hey, man.   Sound good? According to Sounding good, bro. According  

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okay. Thanks.   According to the fourteenth amendment,   all we really deal with on this show is the first part of the fourteenth amendment. That's right. Five parts to the fourteenth amendment.   Yes. And if you read on down through the fourteenth amendment, you'll understand that if the judge admit it,   then they're committing treason.  

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If they what, DeJaren?   If they if they If they admit the if  

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they admit the national status,   then they're committing treason according to the fourteenth amendment.  

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It's right there in black and white.   Okay.  

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Well That's because all we ever deal with on this show is the first part of the fourteenth amendment. Well, that We don't Yes.   We don't deal with the whole fourteenth amendment.  

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Well, when it says later on down there that you can't question the debts, well, that means federal citizens can't question the debt because it's in the fourteenth amendment, and that's who the hell it's written for right there in the first sentence.   So for me, the rest of the thing doesn't really have much applicability   because it only applies to them.  

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But it does have applicability   when you're in front of a judge.  

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As a judge, you can't admit it. Okay. Well, the what we try and do as best we can, folks, is keep you out of that scenario.   K? I I I totally Unless you unless you voluntarily   wanna go in there and do it, and you've gone through all the mental checklists, you know this is what   might happen to you and that you're putting your life on the back burner and every everything else that's involved. You wanna do that, it's great. Applaud you. Okay? But if you are gonna think about doing that, by god, if you're gonna run it by me, you're gonna know that there's a lot of pit   holes and dangers. And I'm gonna put the real question to you is is what you're doing   worth what you're sacrificing to do it and risk. So and if it's fine with you, it's okay with me. I don't care.  

But the object of folks for all folks is to keep you out of that situation.   And honestly, Gary, there are very few times in all these years   that any of our people have had to go in there. Occasionally, it happens in these damn local fiefdoms as I call them.   And it's always   always   related to traffic crap. Always.   So enough of my people. Roger You should I don't sound   disagree with you.  

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Yes. I don't disagree with you at all, Roger. I % support you, and you know I have for years.   But, however,   there's other parts of the fourteenth amendment that we are to be paying attention to, and we're not. No.  

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It's all I've ever studied is this first sentence.   And for what I do to try to get you out of this mess look. If you wanna go do that, that's fine.   K?   But I try and stick to the basics, and I'm a one trick pony, man.  

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And I totally agree with you.   I'm just saying there's other parts to the fourteenth amendment that impacts  

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our day to day lives, and we ought to be familiar with it. Well, I can tell you a little bit that impacts us is that,   that that no one has a right to question the national debt. Well, hold on. We're outside of that scope. No. No. Nobody in their group may can question it, but we're outside of that. And the fact being that that whole debt, $37,000,000,000,000   of it now, maybe 38 by now, is all based on fraud. Fraud vitiates all those bond contracts. There isn't any damn debt. Raj.   K?   So that's the view from the other side of the fence.  

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Yes, Paul.  

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I see where Gary's coming from because,   first of all, you don't have to be a bad guy, and you don't have to be public enemy number one to have cuff slapped on you and to be kidnapped.   You don't you don't have to do anything wrong. They can arrest you just for being there.   But when you do get to a court, it would be good to look at all parts of the fourteenth amendment so we can give the judge   or the administrator   an opportunity   to save face   and to not   commit treason   against their country   by giving them an option to dismiss.  

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Okay. But we have NASDAQ, if you wanna go do that, you go study it, you go put yourself in court, and you exercise it. I'm not doing it on the show.   Roger?   Yes, sir.  

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This is Larry.   What is Gary saying that   if,   if a judge or someone admits to something, it would be considered treason   regarding the fourteenth amendment? What was he saying?  

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Gary, you wanna explain it again to Larry?   Gary and Larry show here?   Gary,   you get pissed off and leave? Sorry, Larry. I can't.   Something down in the fourteenth amendment, and I I don't know that I grasped what he was saying either. K? Quite honestly.  

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I'm back.  

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There he is. Okay. What were you saying?   Okay. Whatever.   Larry's asking me to I wasn't ignore  

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I wasn't ignoring you, Roger. I had to go get a tool. I'm working on my truck. Okay. Okay. No problem, man. Well, would you relate to Larry what you said about the later on in the fourteenth amendment with some judge committing treason? Well, just read the fourteenth amendment. There's the paragraph in there that they're not allowed one to, like you said, to question the debt, but they can't even admit to the national status.   It's in the fourteenth amendment.   It's not that verbiage,   but it's legalese that you need to read.  

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They had to identify   a cracker or other illustration,   Roger? They had Jim Crow laws for another forty   years. It's right there in front of their face. I know. And if you put it all together  

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and like you said all the time, like you're saying all the time, you gotta conceptualize   this stuff.   And you add all the things together,   it's there.   And okay.  

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Alright. Well, I know what for That's why we should show  

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Well Okay. Maybe we don't   justice till we get to at least the appellate level.  

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Alright. Well,   good lord, folks. I'm trying to keep you out of the whole damn court system. Alright.  

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And you're right. Not gonna go in  

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courts.  

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Well, that's the fact that you do somebody   wants to go do that, that's great. I don't wanna cover it on the show. What we do here is confusing enough to people, just dealing with the first sentence, much less all these other peripheral things. K? So if that's okay, that's the way I like to run it. I'm a simple guy.   I I I wanna expand on what I know. I don't know all that other stuff. I try and keep things simple. The deeper you get in this, the more confusing it is, and I don't wanna confuse people and drive them away. K?   So I'm a one trick pony. I wanna show you how they tricked you into being Jim Crow.  

That's what I wanna do. K? So if you wanna go and go into court and do all that stuff and   talk  

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learn what Gary's Roger. Talking about, then you go do it. K? Yes. Yes. A good place for people who wanna get into it deeply is Brosseby's   USA the Republic. He goes through it   clause by clause, breaks it all down, lays it out as he sees it for those who wanna look at it. Okay. What's that website again? He's talking about Lee Brost,  

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guy that wrote some books twenty, twenty five, thirty years ago. What's his the website that you're talking about, Samuel?  

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I don't know that it's a website, but it's it's USA, the Republic   in the house the is the house that nobody lives in. It's in there. It's about 67 pages.  

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Oh, in the book. Your I thought it was online.   Okay.   Yeah. No. I I learned offline. There's some people that are domiciled in it I think Paul or Samuel? I think Paul There's a post it. Okay. There's some people that are domiciled in it now, pal,   firmly.   Yes.   Yeah. He he saw the problems,  

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as well. The fourteenth amendment is   quite well pointed out by him and what it was up to.   From the beginning,   it it was basically   a bunch of communists who wanted to to build a better America. Well And Yeah. You know, good intentions are paved to hell. Right? Good good. Communist can't build a good anything because it's never built anything except misery and terror.  

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I I I propose   that neither the thirteenth nor the fourteenth amendment were written in The United States. I believe they were both written in the city of London.   K? My opinion. Wouldn't be so wrong. Planning all this way back then, and the confirmation is that is   mister Scofield   and dispensationalism,   which is what's at work hard today in our country on this Zionist issue because a lot of people have taken the bait on that hook, line, and sinker   like mister,   Hagee and and all these other dispensationalist   Zionist preachers.  

The fact that even the Southern Baptist Convention   law school in Dallas is based on the Scofield Bible,   they the civil war   was started to get these amendments passed   to control the world and go exactly to what's happened since.   Deeper you get into it, the deeper you'll see it.   Alright. Well, there's our whistler. That means our little conversation   is gone for the day.   At least the official part of it here, the first two hours, I thank you for spending time with us and having an interest in truth,   having an interest in freedom,   and having interest in how to achieve both. So we'll be back at it again tomorrow with mister Brent Winters, my Friday cohost who,   is always enjoyable to do a show with Brent, and there's just no telling what's gonna come up because we never plan anything. Well, very, very rarely,   occasionally.  

So other than that, thanks a whole bunch, and,   we we appreciate you. We love you, and,   we just keep working together. Many hands make light work. We've got these bastards, folks. We got them cold.   All we gotta do is get to the exposure level. And for that to happen   in the good Lord's timing,   the people have gotta be ready. I don't know if they're ready yet, but we're certainly on the path.   K?   We'll see what his timing looks   like. So we're gonna lay our bodies down. We'll be back tomorrow hard at it as well as Saturday, and,   we're we're growing. But   it's silent because it's away from you. The people don't always interact with you, and we just want you to get the information and be strong   and see if we can accomplish great things   because we want to affect change.  

And I think we can. We get the numbers. They're scared to death of us. We'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Have a great day.