In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles and his guests delve into a wide range of topics, from the intricacies of the U.S. tax system and the historical context of citizenship laws to the influence of religious texts on modern society. The discussion touches on the historical manipulation of religious and legal systems, highlighting the impact of figures like Scofield and the implications of the 14th Amendment. The conversation also explores the role of the King James Bible in shaping religious beliefs and the challenges of interpreting ancient texts in contemporary contexts.
The episode further examines the complexities of modern governance, including the enforcement of language requirements for commercial drivers and the implications of federal regulations on individual freedoms. The hosts and guests share personal anecdotes and historical insights, providing a rich tapestry of perspectives on how past decisions continue to influence present-day policies. The episode concludes with a lively discussion on the evolution of technology and its impact on society, reflecting on the rapid advancements and their potential implications for the future.
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Good morning to you, and, we would too, Alvin. Thank you. Try trying again, take another swing at, at a little freedom for some folks here on the fourteenth. It appears of May. It's a Wednesday, and, Roger Sale is your host here at the Radio Ranch. And we always, wanna get our friends out of the way here. Not out of the way. We wanna give them recognition properly at the start of the show for helping us extend our reach. How many of our amigos do we have? Our campaneros do we have with us, today there, Paul?
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And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com where you will find the links to join us live on the show using free conference call. You can call by landline, by smartphone, by tablet or computer. Come on down. We've got plenty of room. Morning, Raj. It's hump day. Morning, Paul. It's, it is, miraculous.
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You're correct. And, boy, there's some stuff happening. I, when I went to lunch yesterday, of course, I did not seen any of the video of the trip, over to the other part of the world there there, because the show and then I'd get up and run out, you know, and I got to, peruse some of that last night as I'm sure many of you did. Wow. I'm just, wow, to see, to see Trump do the end run on this sign, this thing, which many of us have been concerned about, with him. And I think he's shown that, well, at least on the surface, it it sure looks legitimate that maybe there's a recognition there of the bestiality of these people, if you will.
I I thought the, speech to the gathered dignitaries there in Saudi was extremely impressive. I'm just pretty pleased with the way everything's going, and, I know some people still don't believe all that. They wanna, come up with different theories of what's going on, but it sure appears to me that, he has, like I said, drawn the line in the sand, if you will. And it's damned encouraging, actually. So it's spinning. The world's spinning, and, we're we're gonna see. I thought the what I saw of that speech did you happen to see that, Paul? No. No. I didn't. Well, it's it really is impressive. Okay?
It's pure Trump up in front of all of the other people who have been the object of our negative political, efforts for so many years because of this little bastard Satan sandbox bunch and them being in control and controlling everything. I don't know of another well, I let me tell you this story. If you've never heard this before, maybe this is a proper comparison, and we mentioned it, I think, yesterday, and I believe it was Joe that came up and informed me the guys who was Landon, I believe, was the vice president to Harry Truman. And as they were getting in '48, all the Israel, stuff together for the statehood crap,
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Somebody's moving somewhere around. Yeah. And I I stand corrected on that, Roger. I I was wrong. Andy looked it up, and I can't say the name, but it wasn't out.
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Okay. Well, anyway
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in there someplace, though.
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He wasn't vice president. I'm sorry. Well, no problem. No problem. It's, whoever the vice president was, somebody might could search that up real quick. Not that it's terribly important or necessary information. Anyway, he wrote an autobiography, and he was vice president for Truman. And in his autobiography, he related this story of this meeting, around the formation of the state of Israel or Israel or Satan's sandbox as I prefer to call it. And, Truman turned to whoever the VP was, and he said, Jesus Christ couldn't satisfy him two thousand years ago. What do you expect me to do? Okay. So he fell fell right in. You know? Well, Trump is, is not taking that approach.
Now whether it's show business or there's something hidden underneath deep under the layers, we don't know. But at this point, from the other things that have come out, namely the and I heard this as I was leaving walk out the door yesterday. Netanyahu in Hebrew or in Yiddish Yiddish, whatever the hell he speaks over there, announced that they're gonna have to start getting their military armaments somewhere else. In Hebrew, it was, translated with, some, you know, Glock or Block or some AI or something. Anyway, those are the statements that Netanyahu is making. A letter similar to the one that was signed against the laptop, the Biden laptop by the 50 CIA and intelligence people. Well, they got a letter to Trump over there signed by over 550 dignitaries in Israel, including the ex head of the Mossad and the ex head of Shinbat and all kinds of other evidently dignitaries and retired military officers, and they're writing to Trump and saying, do not work with this guy.
Okay? So it looks like a very genuine split to me. And, hell, it's about damn time. About damn time.
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You're right. Jack? Yeah. Yes. Yes, Paul. The VP to Truman was Alben William Barkley.
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And Barkley. Yeah. Barclays is the one that they wanted to run for president. Boy, I didn't know that, Paul. Thank you. It was '49 to '53. This guy. Oh, okay. He, he was a guy they really want to run for president. Barclays, at some point, was highly respected in the senate evidently and to the point where he decided to leave the senate and all the senators wrote him a letter and signed them urging him to come back and he did. Yeah. And then evidently got tapped with this VP thing with, with Truman. He's the one that was the head of they used to evidently in the senate have a ways and means committee. That's where you generate all the funding and stuff. And and I know the house has one and is the originator of all spending bills is the house. But evidently, for this period of time, Barclay was the head of the senate ways and means committee, and he's the one that John and Glenn found this quote. And he said, every year every year we bring the folks over from treasury, and we try and impress upon them that we wanna simplify and shorten the internal revenue code.
And every year, they come back from treasury with something that only Solomon and all of his wise men could interpret. I go back to Woodrow Wilson's statement about the China loan. Why was the reason he wouldn't endorse it? The tax system was antiquated and burdensome and enforced by foreign agents. And here's Barclay. He didn't say the foreign agent thing, but covers the rest of it pretty good. Well, I didn't know that. Thank you, Paul. Barkley was evidently a a heck of a senator.
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Yeah. He he was, Albert William Barkley. He's the thirty fifth vice president of The United States serving from '49 to '53 under president Harry s Truman. In nineteen o five, he was elected to local offices, and in 1912 as a US representative. He was, born 1877 in Graves County, Kentucky. Died 1956 at 78 years old in Lexington, Virginia. He was a Democrat and a senator for the state of Kentucky from '55 to '56.
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Okay. Well, he he was a a heck of a guy, and, and and I didn't know that. And I think that he that that he would even put that in his autobiography is probably very indicative of him, the kind of person he was. So, anyway, we got this whole Israel issue. It's been a big deal for a long time. They've had total control and still do to some extent of our congress at least. And so, evidently, what yet Netanyahu is gonna do is he's just gonna obliterate Gaza. Okay. You won't work with me? I'm just gonna take the thing that really bugs you and just murder all these people. So you can expect to see that coming. And, they're they're they're just about in civil war in Israel over over Netanyahu and all this.
So it's gonna be very interesting. I did notice, and I was gonna mention a minute ago, the biggest applause of the confab yesterday, if you did see it. And, Paul, you ought to go get some excerpts out. It's pretty impressive. Okay? Whole room full of these very important Arabs from all over the Middle East. And, he was talking about he's gonna go visit Syria. Well, they broke into a five minute extended ovation. Wow. So, supposedly, that's the last guy that was the head of ISIS or or one of these terror groups. Hell, I can't keep them all damn straight. But see what's happening is Trump is getting to go over there and meet with some of these people, and there is no Israeli contingent with him.
So whatever the Israelis have been telling us and him about all these different countries over there, evidently, Trump's gonna go meet with them personally.
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So he's gonna find out for himself.
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Well, a a god, I hope so. It appears that he has been enlightened as to the snakes and what they do and how they operate. And let's just hope that keeps getting reinforced, Paul. That's my hope. That might be my prayer here, when I later on in the evening. So, anyway, that's pretty interesting stuff. That's what I caught yesterday. There's a lot of that on everywhere, of course. Justifiably so, his first, trip as, this this this time around. And I I'm I just I'm just very impressed with Trump. Okay? He may be fooling me. I don't know. I don't think so. But, anyway, I know that in my lifetime, especially my political awareness lifetime of the last thirty something years, I've never seen anything like this.
K? All I've seen is them bulldozed people. Now they are gonna show you, and one of their statements was in one of their newspapers over there, I think, Paul, as well, we'll we'll see how just get these things through the through the senate. So they're kinda waiving their control of the, Congress. And, that is being exemplified to some extent by Thune, the, senator from North or South Dakota. I forgot which one. That was a Republican leader in the house and now the, Mike Johnson. And they're both trying to put down some of these real positive initiatives that are coming back as the Republican leadership showing that, of course, the Israelis have control there. So we'll see, but it's gonna also because these things, I can't remember right off the top of my head the issues that they're against, but there's some of the initiatives that Trump's trying to push through. And, I'll tell you, the more the Jews do this, the more they get exposed. It's the same old thing. They're in up to their eyeballs now. They're getting exposed.
Then they have to fight back and wriggle and do all their crap that they always do, like this influencing them to stop these senate issues, which are very positive for Americans, and then they expose themselves more. Mhmm. And then they they react, and and then they expose themselves more. And they react again, and they expose themselves more. This is the snake eating the tail, and, boy, it couldn't it couldn't come quick enough for me. I hate you bastards. I wanna expose you. You won't touch me, though, will you? You'll get all over Stu Peters and put Stu Peters up over all the all over the senate where everybody knows his name in the house. You won't touch me, will you? You won't touch me slaving pieces of crap. Don't worry. We're gonna catch you, and we're gonna expose your sorry asses.
May not be today may not be tomorrow, but at some point in the future, that's gonna happen because this is the truth. You can't do anything but stand mute, and you're totally convicted when it happens. And we're free simultaneously, and we're coming for you. You tell them you well, you you you what was it? You tell them Tell them Roger sent you. Tell them you tell them Willie boy's coming.
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Yes. Another thing about, senator Barkley. On December '4, he declared his candace candidacy for county attorney of McCracken County. I don't know if if Brent can shed any light on whether or not that makes him a McCracken. And that was well before the March 19, o five Democratic primary. In June, the nomination of Woodrow Wilson for president and adoption of a progressive platform at the 1912 DNC bolstered Barclays candidacy. Dawes assigned him to a special committee to investigate the campaign expenditures of the leading candidates in the upcoming presidential
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election. They're all doing that back then, weren't they? Yep. Nothing new under the sun. Anyway, Bart is a guy. Quite a figure. He's quite a guy. Evidently, he's very, very popular and pretty good guy, sounds like, from the best you can tell. So, anyway, this whole Israel thing is gonna get more intense, I hope, and, as to their exposure. And, it it's just getting interesting, folks. It's getting interesting as it applies back to our congress and how they're gonna react to some of these things in the way that they usually do and continue to expose themselves. Please do it, you sorry bastards.
Please do it. Please continue. You know, what did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy when he's in the process of making a mistake, something like that. They're they're getting exposed. They're freaking out. It's all over evidently from what I hear social media, especially TikTok and that. And, it's just gonna continue to grow. And you're gonna continue to squirm and try and assert because you're being exposed. And the more you do that, the more you're gonna be exposed. And at some point, we're coming for you. Yeah. I'm I'm not for your deeds. K? I'm not exactly sure. I'm not including Paul in this, but I there's a bunch of people that are gonna be coming for you. And they may hunt you with big dogs, which would be fantastic.
Yeah. Because deep down, they're nothing but chicken ship high in transits, these people. That's why they always gotta have somebody else do their dirty work. Why they, sit over there is just like Jesus said in your your whitewashed sepulchres and you're so much better than everybody else and all the stuff he said about them is exactly true of these creeps today. Exactly. Same thing. So, anyway, I feel better. How about you, Paul?
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Yeah. I was I was gonna say something, but I lost it. I mean, please, I'm begging them. Please
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demonize me. Demonize me. I want I'm begging you to demonize me. I hate your effing guts. Put me on your hate list, number one with a bullet, please. Because I just literally despise you. Who you are, if we even know who you are, what you do, how you do it, how you carry yourself, and how you do your business. And I hate every one of them. Every one of those aspects of you bastards. Well, so no. Okay. Anybody ever say that I didn't come out here and point my finger at these bastards, and they won't touch me or us or this with a 10 foot pole.
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Yeah. But still, the even though they deserve it, hating them is not good for you because God hates them. I can tear them too. You down.
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Doesn't tear me down inspires me. God hates them publicly. I can hate them too, Paul.
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Alright.
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Okay. And we discussed that issue a while back, and that hate means hate. Hate is no mistranslation. K? So, anyway, there's some fine Jews out there, and I don't wanna cast aspersions on them. The problem is this little sect. And, and the problem is that as they start getting attacked, even some of the Orthodox people feed over. Okay? So, unfortunately, you can't help but change and paint with a broad brush. Okay? Because they're the ones that are reacting. Now we got great folks like our buddy, Dan, who's Jewish and comes on here with us and talks about this stuff and agrees with us and brother Kapner and, Fisher. What about Fisher? You know about Fisher. Right? The chess player? Paul? Mhmm. Bobby. Bobby Fisher?
Yeah. You know about him?
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No what?
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He's a Jew. He's absolutely paints these people up one side and down the other and calls them out and says what they are. That's why they never mentioned his name anywhere.
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Right. Yeah.
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Well, the So their day is coming. Their day is coming.
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They say they're from the thirteenth tribe. As far as I know, there wasn't 13
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tribes. Well, that's well, that's why they're saying that because that's the Khazars. Yeah.
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And the only
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the only That's Well, hold on. Let's bring this all together for the audience who may not know or have any background in this. Khazar and Khazaria, where what is that land today?
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Turkey. Ukraine. Ukraine.
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Ukraine. Oh, there you go. This is what the whole Ukraine thing's about. They had they already had 30,000 Jews in the Ukraine. They were trying to move up and set up Ukraine as Israel Greater Israel in Europe. They had 30,000 of these settlers up there already armed and in settlements of some sort. And as the Ukraine war started, guess what? They flew them all back to Israel because they're not gonna fight and die in the Goy war. That's only to kill Christians and mongrels.
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K?
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So the
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that
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excuse me, Bart. That's the thirteenth tribe is the Khazadarias. That's why they want Ukraine so damn bad again.
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Mhmm. Amen?
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Yes. Please. Please.
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Actually, old Stalingrad was dead center in the area.
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Okay. So Stalingrad would be Saint Petersburg now. Right?
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No. No. That's, Northwest Russia. This is, east of, Ukraine Ukraine.
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Okay. Well, I sure thought that Stalingrad had been renamed to Saint Petersburg. I may be wrong. K? Anyway, it was that part of the world, and this is go ahead.
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It's it's, Volga. It's named after the Volga River over there. Yep.
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Yes. Because that's where they built their kingdom around that transportation of those major rivers. It was the Christians and the trade routes by the by the Islamicists that they would charge 10% of the value of the trade caravan. And if they didn't give them 10%, they'd just fight you and kill you and take all of them. And that's centered their their their kingdom centered around those transportation hubs, Volga, obviously, being one of them.
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That was the original protection money.
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No. That's just, you know, same old stuff. They had a the the king and these are really hateful people, and the king was afraid that the kingdom was getting, out of control because they didn't have any religion. And so he didn't want to convert Christianity, and he didn't wanna convert to Islam because that means they'd have to give them concessions on their trade caravans. They had an adviser in his court who was a Sephardic Jew, and they converted the whole kingdom to Judaism. These are the Khazarians. These are if you hear the word Ashkenazi, these are the Ashkenazis.
This is the primero primarily about 96% of the Jews in the world are Ashkenazi. And this is why they hate Russia so much because this was that area of Ukraine. It was also referred to as the Pale, and that's where Jews were congregated and put into. And as the Rus', their ancient enemies, the Russians now, came down from the North and broke that kingdom up, and all of those people went into Western Europe, and they're all your international bankers. The these are the connections and the background and the history behind all this.
K? And I imagine there's probably people in the audience that don't know this. K? I've I've been studying it for over thirty years. K? And, I know these folks pretty well. Alright? Pretty well. I know how they've enslaved the whole world and put themselves on high on on big hills and big castles simply off of, you know, what put them up there, Paul, is the sweat of our backs As they used our sweat and our labor to build their anthill, and they took five, six layers of compound interest straight off the top of the monetary system on top of whatever else they could steal in Wall Street, bond market, etcetera, etcetera, because they're just thieves. They're just freaking thieves.
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Whatever wasn't nailed down.
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So anyway, I'll get a little little of that off my chest. Please, if you're new, you know, I mean, the only thing I'm doing is pointing out what we've been able to prove, and they validated, is that they're, history's greatest slavers. They've just come up with a whole new little scam, a cute few little turns, a few little deceptions, a little trickery. And, they turned everything around over a period of time to get you to volunteer and agree with your servitude. And as Bertrand Russell said, most of them like it. Said they'll love their servitude.
Most of them love their servitude until the screw starts getting turned. Then then the love stops. Right? Till the IRS comes to the door, then the love stops.
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Yes. Well, these are the guys that have been thrown out of over a hundred countries a thousand times.
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More than a thousand times. I've seen over 1,100. I've seen a list of over 1,100 countries they've been thrown out of. And it's all because those people were such severe antisemites,
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wasn't it, Paul? No. Oh, yeah. Well Of course. Yeah. Is the term anti antisemite. The term anti Semites applies to them.
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I know. I know. It's another fabricated BS.
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Because because they're Shemites. So antisemitism They're would be against them. But hello, Palestine. They're they're they're the semis.
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They're they're they're Esau. Edom. These people are Esau. Edom. And the big picture, if you're new, of what's going on here is Esau Edom has stolen and tricked us into giving the birthright back. It had to be done with fraud. They can't do it legitimately. It's voluntary servitude. Take it back. Mhmm. They tricked you into giving them your power. Take it back. They can't say anything. People don't believe that. They think these people are all powerful and all omnipotent. They're not. K? They're not. It's all on a turn of fraud, about three or four layers more or more of fraud. And when you present them with that in the proper way, they've got to recognize it.
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Oh, it's just a piece of paper.
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No. It's a little more than a piece of paper, whoever dumb crap people that make that comment right there. K? So is the constitution. It's pretty one well, run a run a country for a couple of hundred years.
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A piece of hemp paper.
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It's a piece of, hell, it's a piece of hemp paper. That's what it is. What I said. Written on hemp paper.
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Yep.
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It was written on hemp paper. That's killer weed, and is that killer weed again?
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Well well, hemp is the nonpsychoactive, red headed stepchild of cannabis. So there is it
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it only has And and and God gave you cannabinoid receptors in your body. Yeah. There are receptors in your body to receive what comes from that plant.
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There's only two sources God did it. Of cannabidiols, and that is cannabis and a, rare chocolate,
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like in Yeah. K. Well, hell, we probably got that down here in Ecuador.
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Probably.
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That's the only two No. You have to watch out. You have to watch out when you're, like, dating down here in Ecuador. You know why, Paul? Why is that? Because Lorena Bobbitt was Ecuadorian.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. So you gotta be careful.
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I have a I have a couple of quick, but a quick yet stupid bible jokes. One was radio. Yeah. You you might be, you know, into this. When was radio first mentioned in the bible?
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Oh, shit. You said broadcaster seeds seeds?
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No. When God took a rib from Adam and made a loudspeaker. Do you know when the mafia was first mentioned in the Bible?
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Okay. I don't, Paul. I'm gonna need to venture a guess.
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Okay. Well well, when baby Jesus was in the manger, he was visited by three wise guys.
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Yeah. Okay. Okay. He's right. I told you they were stupid. Visit notice they didn't come to visit Mary. They came to visit Jesus.
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Right.
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Mary wasn't in the stars. Jesus was. Yeah. See, I told you they were stupid. Set things straight. Well, that's what I used to, that's what I used to tell my dates, Paul. I'd say, I gave you a rib, and I'm gonna collect.
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Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Oh. Love your okay. Well, I'm I feel Those are tattoos. Thing I could do. I got to, I got to ventilate a little bit on There you go. Just one of the subjects that drives me is these people. They they really they really make their own worst enemies. They're their own worst enemies. Because of the way they do things, they make their own worst enemies. And once they make an enemy this is what Jesus said. Once you make a prophet light, he's 10 times the devil you are or something to that effect. Well, let me tell you what. When you make an enemy bow, 20 times they hate you worse than you hate them. And they don't forget, and they ain't going away because you've ruined their life or made some kind of an impact on them where they're dedicated to, coming after you in some way, shape, or form. Well, I see. Of this keep coming, and your worst fears are gonna be materialized because their worst fears and their only fear. They got plenty of money. They got plenty influence. They can put themselves behind big big deep walls and and into all kinds of gated underground communities.
Mhmm. But they can't stop the word spreading, and they're scared of us even when we don't know this information with numbers. When we get numbers with this information, this is where this falls on your back, listener, right now of helping to spread this message and increase our ranks. We get numbers of educated people on this. I mean, shit. They may start jumping out of Wall Street again.
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Yeah. Well Or. Well, that's our own fault. I I got one comment, and then we're gonna let Mark go. These guys are narcissistic, and they do the attack retreat. They have reduced attack and retreat to an art form, which is why they have been able to make, negative advances toward a population. They get thrown out, and then they beg back into the good graces of that population. That's why they've been thrown out many numerous times. Of course. People I mean, they play on the fact that people are inherently good and compassionate, and they feed on that.
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Absolutely. That's why I say, well, see, we don't even know them. You know, Sun Tzu, know your enemy. K? Know yourself. Know your enemy. If you don't, you can't win any battle. Well, we don't know them for the most part. We're learning. That's the big thing is they're getting exposed. But for the most part, we don't, but we're learning. Okay? But they damn sure know us, and they've been studying us for thousands of years. And the example is when they wrote that fourteenth amendment, they knew that a hundred years later, they were gonna ask you, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Because that's incorporated in the law as to what you are, and that means you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They knew that when they passed that thing in the eighteen sixties. I guarantee you. If not, they wouldn't already been all over Schofield and setting up the whole dispensationalism thing, which is a whole bunch of what these current events are now because many of these people that are fooled are fooled by their damn pastors.
And the fact that they've taken over this whole World Council of Churches. And if you don't believe me, look at the the illegal migrants. Who is there? The the the Lutheran NGO, the Catholic NGO, the Jewish NGO, all the World Council of Churches, were the the ones who assisted in all this. They know us like the back of their hands. We are just starting to learn about them, and, and it terrifies them. Morning, Mark.
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Morning, Roger.
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I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous this morning.
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Oh, that's okay. I'll I'm just gonna I'm gonna tie right in there with you on that. Happened to stumble across a video late last night that, it was like they've been listening to our show.
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Oh yeah. Well they do. I'm sure they do. But could you get your, whatever you do with your phone and get it where it's a little better?
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Okay.
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Is it, is it clipping or is it just not loud? No, it's not clipping. You just sound a little bit distant rather than right up on top of the microphone. We can hear you. Got the mic. And it's okay. Okay. Well, that's the best you can do. Well, not maybe a little, not much, but that's okay. Go ahead.
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Okay. Paul, can you hear me?
[00:36:01] Unknown:
Yeah. We hear you.
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Okay. I don't know what's going on. I I just, rebooted everything this morning. It should be fresh and ready to go. I got a lapel mic on, so I don't know why it's, lower than normal.
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But Well, it's because it's down on your lapel, not right in front of your mouth, I'm sure. Well But that's okay. We can hear microphone. We can hear that's a lavalier, I think. We we can hear you. It's just you're not right on top of the mic, but that's okay. You know, I'm a Alright. I'm a little bit of fastidious about this. So I understand. I understand. But,
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anyway, there was a attorney, John Eastman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess he he served in in Trump's cabinet or was one of his attorneys. But Yes. He was on a One American News on Rumble, they have a show called Fine Point. I don't remember who the name of the host was. But, John Eastman and another general were on there, and they're part of this birthright citizenship fight that's, I believe, before the Supreme Court. And they submitted amicus briefs, and they were going over the fine points of that. And I tell you, it it sounded just like they've been listening to your show for a couple years.
They brought up Allegiance to a Country. They brought up Wong Kim Ark. I mean, you just go down the line, and and they were basically saying everything that you've been saying for, well, how many years now? Over thirteen, fifteen years? Fourteen.
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Fourteen going on fifteen.
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So I'm trying to find that video. And in in in Doonsa, I found that John Eastman is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Yes. And he's got an article that he put out, and I'm I'm just trying again, I'm trying to find some resources for us. And check this out. This is from 03/30/2006. And the title of his article is from feudalism to consent, rethinking birthright citizenship.
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There you go. Eastman is a constitutional attorney. He was the head of some small colleges law, department, and he's the guy they're desperately trying to debar out there and have been for a couple of years. This part.
[00:38:33] Unknown:
Now I put the link to that article. It doesn't seem to be very long. I don't know. Maybe three pages, maybe four pages. It's hard to say. It's something that's on a website. But I put the link to that article over in the chat, the free conference call chat, and I'm going to also put it over into the 2radioranch.chitango.com. Okay. Thank you. I believe interested in that.
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I believe they're gonna argue and hear that case this week up there.
[00:39:08] Unknown:
Mark, seems like somebody should I don't know when the the, arguments are gonna be presented.
[00:39:16] Unknown:
I think it's this week because of the, importance of this issue and the bearing of everything. Now when the decision will come out is a different story, but they may expedite it.
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Right. Right.
[00:39:30] Unknown:
Now now I was just gonna say the opposite is happening on, the the headlines on Drudge or the, MAGA MAGA heavyweights weigh in against Drudge. So who are the MAGA heavyweights? Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and two other Jews. Mark Levin, I have been saying for years that he's Sean Hannity's Mossad handler. K? Now don't forget, I know Sean. I know Sean personally. K? Knew him pretty well back in Atlanta, in the old days. He knew all this stuff. There's his sister and her friends in California were all into all this stuff and had been telling him it for years when I sat down and started talking to him about it. K? And then he goes to New York.
And, you know, does anybody if you remember, I've told this before, you know the reason for Sean's meteoric success? Do you have any idea? No. Rush's brother was his agent. And so I was friends with him in Atlanta then when they were first, trying to catapult him up there. And what they do is they'd fly him up to New York for the weekend and stick him on some obscure cable show and and check the audience, reaction to him. And after he passed a few of those and got over those hurdles, then they moved him up there. And the first thing he did was, was on ABC, the radio flagship station up there in a afternoon show.
And then they put him on. Remember Hannity and Combs? Yes. With the Liberal Combs? And, so it was in that period of time, and I was home one one day on a Sunday. Phone rings, and it's Sean. And I went, Sean, wow. Well, you ought to be off with your family today. She says, no, man. Roger, I'm working harder than than I've ever worked. I'm in the office office doing show prep. And and then Levin came on to his show after that, and and started he started pumping him up. And I said as I heard him turn, I saw him turn from the discussions we used to have to the way he was handling things up there at ABC. Wow. And I said, that's, this guy Levent's his his massage handler.
Well, look what have you seen Levent last couple of days from his show last weekend? Oh, he's all over Trump. Yeah. Israel, why are you getting rolling? You're going with these terrorists instead of your best ally and all the all the usual crap. You know? And, so there it is. The the MAGA heavyweights are four Jewish commentators.
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Well, unfortunately, they have brainwashed the Christians into this, in my opinion, pretty much worshiping Israel.
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Yeah. They have. And
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and, it it's it's kinda really sad to see that and all the billions of dollars that The United States gives to Israel. And then they got these they got these pastors who are shilling for more money for the, you know, for, underprivileged, Jews. So
[00:42:56] Unknown:
it's it's John Hagee. But you see, and this is what one of the things that allowed me to make that connection in my thesis here is that the civil war was fought to get these things into into place so they could control the world through the dollar with them a hundred years later. K? And the thing that really buttresses that is at the same time, they were cultivating Scofield to go into the Scofield Bible and create dispensationalism where they could fool the majority of Christians with this Israel shit. Wow. This has been in the making a long time.
They had this projected out over a hundred and fifty years ago.
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Wow.
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Until you get in and really understand some of the intricacies here, you can't draw that conclusion. I mean, even I had never drawn it until about a year and a half ago, and it hit me one day like a sledgehammer. Yeah. So, anyway, I believe they've been planning this to the best of their ability for at least a hundred and fifty years.
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Oh, you know, it goes further back than that. I mean, it's it's it's a forever strategy that they have mapped out. They got think tanks that have war gamed this all out.
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Yep. You know,
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you most are I'm sure if anybody's you know, like our listeners, they're well informed. They're very enlightened and they want to think that they're smarter than the average bear. And we probably are. But there are some very brilliant people. You know, you don't realize your level of intelligence till you get around people that just think on a different level altogether. Yes. Yes. You know? And, I one of those, is, glaringly observant or clear, excuse me, glaringly clear was a TV show called The Blacklist with James Spader. And he is like a mastermind criminal that has networks all over the world.
And you you see that the thinking's on a whole different level. It's it's just insane.
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Well, and that's, you know, what happens when the average person comes and stumbles into us, they get that same effect. And the reason for it is because what we do is undo what they've done by using generalities and then alternatively specificity. So now that we understand all that and we train you to think specific on this is person, this is that, this is that, will people step into this and they go, holy smokes. It's way over their head. They've never thought specifically like that. And they're starting to undo that and understand the techniques that's been used on them, and it sharpens your thinking. It can't help but sharpen your thinking.
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Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And, you know, and and everybody has their moment of awakening after they have been exposed to your message. And some people are are for whatever reason, I I think it may be a, a God thing that they're being drawn to that message. And they once they hear it, they're intrigued and they can't help but listen to more. And somewhere down the road, they have their moment. And, and some of those, it's it's quicker. I think for me was about two weeks. Usually, it's about two months for me to if it's something like totally new information, and it takes about two weeks for me to just like, oh, yeah. This is or excuse me, two months to say, oh, yeah. This is real or, oh my gosh. This is a bunch of junk. Sometimes it's a lot quicker when it's junk. Right?
But in your you know, once I listen to you on your show for two weeks, I'm like, oh, this guy's on to something. And then when you explained the feudal system, that was the missing piece for me.
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And for everybody. That made total.
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It locked it it locked it totally in. I'm like, if you don't understand that we're in a feudal system that's voluntary, you'll never get any of this.
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Well, it's just like Glenn says, if you don't if you don't know you're dealing with the feudal system, you'll never do anything but shadow box with it. Isn't that what the rest of the patriot community is doing? Shadow boxing with it, aren't they?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And people come commentators go, well, this is neo feudal. They're moving us into the feudal system. Hey, buddy. You've been in it not only since birth, but every time they ask you, you answered yes. Are you in it? Are you a voluntary serve? Yep. Sure am. Where do I sign?
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What was, interesting on that, interview last night, there was another attorney by the name of Alex Haberbusch, and he was talking about, the passport application and how in 1966 it unexpectedly changed to where it didn't have the questions about the, parents and I think there was like where they were born. In other words, there was quite a quite a lengthy lengthy question there section about the parents and their birth, citizenship. And they took that completely out, and it appears like that's kinda like when the the, Anchor Baby thing started where if you were just born on the soil, that you're automatically a US citizen.
[00:48:53] Unknown:
That's what Eastman said. Eastman said in his research, and somebody asked him when was that. And he said, I have the sixties or the fifties, best I can best I can, figure out. But they were moving. You when you when you shift this and look at it on that timeline and you see what these events have set up and caused, you can see exactly what's happening right here.
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Right. Well, think about this, Roger. What was going on in the sixties?
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Of most of the civil rule. Good lord, man. It was that was my time. I was that's my high school, college years. Yeah. And I can tell you firsthand what was going on back then, and it was crazy. Okay? I mean, all of a sudden, this is free love stuff and Woodstock and, and drugs and all the rock music and all the social engineering that came out of Tavistock Institute. And if you look back, if there's one thing, Mark, let me ask you this question. If you could look back and identify one thing that set up all these massive changes, what do you think it would have been?
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All these massive changes. I really don't know. Birth
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birth control pill.
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Yeah. Well, I was gonna say the sixties was a social revolution.
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Yes. And and also no fault divorce out of California, another real big one to tear up the family.
[00:50:30] Unknown:
Yeah. And, there's actually some states are looking at revisiting that and maybe changing that. But we had a big social revolution during the sixties and communism took a big step forward through our whole society and government. So these people that coming up through these social communistic, colleges and universities, That's why these parents go, I sent my Christian kid off to a college that's supposed to be well respected and then come back a radical liberal.
[00:51:09] Unknown:
I don't even recognize it. But take over the universities.
[00:51:12] Unknown:
This is the long game. Yeah. This is the long game. So, you know, this all appeared to start in the sixties. And, I don't know if it was Easton Eastman or Haberbush was talking about that, change in the passport application that there was no explanation for the way they changed it. There was no rules or regulations that have been changed. Just somehow it it was changed.
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And it revolved around the parents you where your parents were born?
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Yes. Yes.
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Yep. Well, that's the setup. As I was telling, I had a I had a consultation with a guy at Arkansas the other day who was really, worrying himself over this passport application. And he referenced the fact that you've got another outfit. We've talked about it on here before, copper moonshine still. And, I I've never looked into it real deeply. I know he helps people go through the passport form. I know, he's got some great sites on there, site that I'd never seen before. But but the main thing is is he instructs his people to answer those questions no. Now that is directly lying on a passport application.
Yeah. They take that really seriously. I can give you an example. K? Now why haven't they come back on any of the copper moonshine still people? Because that telling them didn't say no is absolutely a lie. They're lying. K? Right. And, the only reason that, to me, that they don't come after them and charge them with that is they don't wanna bring light to all this. They don't even want the issue brought up. K? And they'll let them slide. Now, Mark, have you heard the story that happened just when I started doing this about fourteen years ago? Have you heard me tell that story about the guy in Florida? I don't think you have. If you if that if you hesitate, you hadn't.
He was a retired army guy. He used to be at Guantanamo. And earlier in his life, he had sent in a passport application that was unsigned. He went to fill it out, and I don't know. You know, it says stop. Do not sign unless for d s 11 in front of an administrating official. So somehow he sent it in, but he sent it in unsigned, I think. But he sent it in anyway. K? So years later, he goes to apply for another one. And this time, he was doing it more correctly, and there's a question on there says, have you ever applied for a passport before? And he clicked no.
And he had been in jail for about four or five months in Florida for passport fraud already, and he was writing a letter to the Florida senator to get him out, which he eventually did. But as an example, that's how seriously they considered the fact that he sent in an unsigned passport application, which he couldn't have sent in or signed because there was no administrating official, and they still nailed him with that passport fraud. So my statement, I think, is very justified. You probably search that case up. They take passport fraud very seriously. That's why I tell all you that you say, woah. Where are all the tricks in the passport application?
The only trick is if you don't get instructed properly to answer all the questions true truthfully and then put and to include the affidavit. That's the trick, is to not include the affidavit. We teach our people to overcome that. They can't say anything about it. What do we know? We know from the inside the passport office, the guy that Dave outside of Orlando contacted that called me back said, oh, we're getting so many of these that they're having special classes for the employees on how to process them correctly. Well, that tells me they're doing the right thing.
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Wow. K?
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Yep. But don't lie on a passport application. You're begging for problems if you do.
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It's just not necessary. Truthful,
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there's no problem. As long as you're truthful, there's no problem.
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K? Don't lie. There's no need to to lie on it. Yeah. Nope.
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You're trying to get out of lies, not not procure them.
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Right.
[00:55:54] Unknown:
That's very true. So Very true. So, Mark, let me see here. Do you unless you got something else to add. Well, we're pretty close to the top of the hour in the break here. Paul's gonna have to come on and quit chasing the cat with the wand and come back and give the Chicago folks and the other folks over there their bye byes. Sure. You got anything there? Yeah. Yes. Who's this?
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Hey, Roger. This is this this is William.
[00:56:18] Unknown:
Hey, William. Boy, you sound good today. How you doing? Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger. It's Lee. Oh, good. Good. Good.
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I just wanted to add, you know, I don't know if Mark heard the other day that the earliest that I could find in, citizen slash national statement in the passport book was 1980.
[00:56:38] Unknown:
Well, I just it this passport application, the reason it's so important is because of what it is and what it does and the fact that they've got to take your input. They've got to let you know somehow that you've got this option, which they hide very well. They've gotta put that in there. There's no other federal form to my knowledge where that is a requirement.
[00:57:08] Unknown:
Yeah. It seems like every several years, they change the passport book and and the way it looks and some of the verbiage in it. And, up until 1980, it had a different, declaratory statement in there about, you know, letting letting this this, individual pass and providing aid and all that. But, then citizen slash national. Yeah. It didn't show up until 1980.
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Interesting. Well, we've got you. We got you, you little slimy bastards, you slavers. We got you cold. Ain't nothing you can do about it. You can change all you want. We got your game plan now. We're gonna confront you with it, and you can't do anything about it but stay on mute. Or you can't even hardly come up with some lame excuse, can you? Because we got you so solid and so cold. It's one of the, absolutely, one of the joys of my life is to discover this and be able to teach you folks about it and spread the word against these enemies that have ruled Earth and terrorized Earth and made life miserable for so many because of their convoluted, sick thoughts and religion. Okay?
I'm talking about the Talmud and that dirty book that ought to be every copy on the face of the earth ought to be destroyed. K? It's the filthiest book that's ever been pinned. It's caused more damage or killed more people, caused more pain and suffering than, to my knowledge, any other book ever penned. So let's see. We're gonna hear the whistler in just a second, and Paul's gonna come out and and and very nicely tell these listeners that we're about to depart from bye bye. And the fact that they can join us on the other side and hear more of this type of conversation, if it's something that blows your dress up, then you found the right place.
K? There's something if this information hits the right person, it creates a relationship and a curiosity that you couldn't turn people away. You may not understand it. It may be confusing to you, but you know there's something of great substance here. And boy is there. Okay, Paul. Your turn. Oh, Paul.
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Uh-huh. I've gotta turn my microphone on. Maybe that would be helpful. That was Thanks for joining us, radiosoapbox.com and one zero six point nine w b o u f m, the pulse of Chicago. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com. It is the matrixd0cs.com, and just click on either the Eurofolk radio or the Global Voice Radio link. Thank you.
[01:00:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Thanks a lot. We'll see, if you don't come in back half, we'll see you tomorrow, hopefully. Have a great day. Okay. Back to William. William, what do you have anything else to weigh in on here? I think that's very important information. Did
[01:00:19] Unknown:
No. I I I didn't have anything else.
[01:00:21] Unknown:
Okay. Well, thank you. You sound real good. Mark, what what else you got to bring forward? We'll just get this second hour start, or should we just open it up to the audience to see if anybody's got any questions or comments?
[01:00:36] Unknown:
I'd say open it up unless you got something that you need time.
[01:00:41] Unknown:
Well, no. I don't know that I do. I can probably conjure something up, but, I I I really wish we had some other folks in the audience and have this conversational thing on especially questions and whatnot. We can clarify things instead of what I wanna teach on, something that there's a need to teach on. So if there's anybody in the audience and they're you're shy and you you've been lurking, you've been scared to talk to us, we we don't bite. We're right here. All you have to do is hit star six. And anybody else has got questions or comments, you know, it's always welcome. We like this format. It's a conversational format. But if you guys aren't speaking up and either given a little bit of a subject matter, commentary or asking some questions, then, it's not conversational as much then, is it? And that's what we like. So if you would hit star six, we'd love to hear from you. Any of you?
Yeah. I got a question. Okay. Good. There's somebody right there. Well, who who are we?
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I'm Kyle from Michigan.
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Hello, Kyle.
[01:01:48] Unknown:
Hello, sir. And I was just wondering if you could point me in the direction of driving in the private with Joe Lustica because you mentioned last week, I believe, that there's a process about getting a private plate and a whole new number for that. And I'm Yes. Correct. I've been looking for information regarding it, and I can't find it either. Okay. Well, here's what you do. You go over to rumble.comfront/joelustica,
[01:02:19] Unknown:
spell his name out, no space. And he's got a number of videos over there, and one of them is on this DOT thing. Now what Joe found, being a very diligent researcher, Joe Lustica, he found on the Department of Transportation website, and he shows you how to go through it, where you can register your car as a private conveyance. They will issue you a number. Then should you desire, you could could go to one of these places that makes a custom license tag and put your new DOT number on there. Okay. K? So I can I can point you that and answer you that, and we've got people that are doing that? And they don't should you get pulled over now, all these judice or these police officers aren't gonna know all this stuff. So don't argue with them.
That's not any place to to deal with one of these issues on the side of the road with a less than 100 IQ police officer. But, but that's the way you do that tag thing. K?
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Let me let me add to that. When you go to Rumble, Kyle, when you go to Rumble and you look for Jole Lustica, spell his name out in all one word. J o e, l as in Larry, u, s as in Sam, t as in tango, I, c as in Charlie, a as in apple. Yeah. Joe Lustica, one word. If you wanna go straight to his Rumble channel, it's rumble.comforwardslash, that's the slash that leans to the right, user, user, another forward slash, and then joe lustka, all one word. And that will take you directly to his rebel channel. So, Yeah. Anyway, he's got a lot of lot of information out there about driving versus traveling and so forth.
[01:04:23] Unknown:
Joe is one of the more appreciate that. Joe is one of the more astute researchers, honestly, that I've come across in all my years in this movement. Okay? Very impressed with him and his results and just tickled to death. I don't know if y'all know the way we found Joe. Do you know that, Mark? No. I don't think I ever heard that story. Well, Kaye and her husband, Paul, out were early listeners fourteen years ago. They were out in California. Kaye had, gotten up in the housing 02/2008 scam and tried to defend her house and her position in court not knowing anything. Yeah. Of course, they bounced her around like a basketball.
And, so they that's how why they were out looking and found me. Okay? And, so then they had a daughter that had a baby, a little grandchild, and they went back to Connecticut to go help with the grandchild. So we didn't hear from Kaye for a long time, seven years, eight years, something like that. And then she pops back up in Connecticut, and she's all this is right at the start of COVID. And now she's all hell bent for leather to start filing stuff. Get these I wanna put this she's very aggressive, Kaye is, actually. Actually. And, so the grandson evidently was old enough and wanted to learn how to play guitar, and they found a guitar teacher, and it was Joe.
And Joe and Kaye start talking, and she's the one that pointed him over here. So, god bless you, Kaye. And, Joe's been a great asset to the program. He's not with us all the time because he's busy. He's got a young family and, guitar teacher and stuff, but he's very good at this legal research stuff. Amazingly so. K? Yeah. So, anyway, Kyle, what else? What else can we do you for today? Kyle, go off message. Okay. But Yeah. I was just muted. That that was about it. I just wanted to some clarification on that. So thank you. Okay. Alright. Well, if you have any problems with that, come back to us. But I think you can find everything there. He he I believe the instruction on how to do everything. Now one of the things in there, he said he set up a foreign trust or something, and I'm not sure you need to do that.
But, anyway, you should find that video very instructive for anybody in the audience that might wanna do this. It's an area that, you know, I'm not gonna tell you not to do it, Kyle, but I'm gonna tell you to be very cautious as you step forward and go into this with your eyes open knowing that you may have to defend this at some point. K? So but I appreciate your guts. Planning to be auditing cops or anything, but I definitely plan to be exercising my rights. Okay. Well, I appreciate that attitude and and that that that way of moving forward. And, again, should you have problems or things you can't ascertain an answer to, here we are for you. K?
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Appreciate it.
[01:07:36] Unknown:
Yep. Okay, buddy. Well, be careful. I feel like the guy on was it Hill Street Blues? Be careful out there.
[01:07:43] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:07:44] Unknown:
It's all we need to do. That's it. So who else? See, Kyle is, Kyle's broken the ice now. The shy people see that we don't bite or anything or yell at you. And so you what what questions do you have, folks in the audience? I know there's gotta be some. Come on. Nobody wants to talk to us? Gosh. We're such nice people. I mean, we really try and be nice here.
[01:08:14] Unknown:
Yeah. As long as you have all the reasons that.
[01:08:18] Unknown:
That's right. We got all the reason in the world to be nice here.
[01:08:22] Unknown:
Okay? But but we do we do love the guys that actually come to the program and speak up and talk
[01:08:32] Unknown:
and and share with Yeah. Because that you're why we're here. I I just don't get up every morning to get up earlier than I'd like and stay on the air for two hours. I'm here out of duty, and I'm here for you. So, please, if, if you're stumbled into this or whatever, avail yourself of me. I'm here for you. I'm giving you you you couldn't find an attorney on the face of this damn earth that can give you the information I can give you and back it up. You couldn't find one. Hello, Bob? If you did, you'd be $1,500 or more an hour. Yes, sir. Who's that?
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Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad,
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New Mexico.
[01:09:22] Unknown:
I got my Hey, Jerry. Export book yesterday.
[01:09:27] Unknown:
Congratulations.
[01:09:28] Unknown:
I also applied for the card
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that I I don't know if you have the most Well, they don't do them at they don't do them at the same place. The card comes from another source. So just be patient. I'll wager you that it comes up. Did they cash your check?
[01:09:46] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[01:09:47] Unknown:
You'll get it.
[01:09:52] Unknown:
Be patient. On that passport book, does that letter p always come up on it?
[01:10:00] Unknown:
I don't I I don't I don't know what the designations or any of that are, honestly.
[01:10:06] Unknown:
Okay.
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You'll have more luck, I think, when you get the card of going over and seeing if you got an 0 9 because we've got a list on the website of those of those kind of numerical notifications they put on those cards. O nine seems to be the one we're looking for would be desirable, but it doesn't have to be because we've gotten back a number that says, yeah. That's they say that's American Samoa, but the other nationals are hidden under it. We've had one that came back with 77, and it said the guy was an ambassador at large. And we've had one that came back another number, which was when another designation internally.
So it doesn't have to be o nine. It's other places that they could hide it because those other like an ambassador at large, that you'd have the same limitations and protections, I would think. So, anyway, the just here's the map bottom line, Jerry. Quit fretting about what's on the document. And if you really wanna know, go do a privacy request on your file with the state department, and then they'll send you. And what really matters is what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, not what the passport says. As the eighteen thirty something case, we've got Ubututu v DRC. Yep. It's on the website, and it says it's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary that should be considered the higher and better evidence in a court of law. So it doesn't matter what the passport says. It matters that you've got that affidavit in the possession of the secretary.
K? Hey, Roger. Now if you And that really wanna make hold let me just let me emphasize this to the jury again. If you really wanna make sure that that's there, you do a privacy request on your account to the secretary of state, and they'll send you that back. And to our knowledge, everyone that's ever done one of those came back and the affidavit was in the package. Now, Mark, I'm sorry to step on you, buddy. Yeah. We no. That's okay. I'm stepping on you. In your privacy act, you can go after your documents
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that were filed with your passport application. And, you need to be specific. Just don't ask for all documents. Try to be specific. Or if you know, you know, when you send your affidavit in initially, you're gonna ask for a copy of that as well. But I just wanna point out, it doesn't really matter what's on your passport. Your passport is what they call prima facie evidence, which means just on the face of the document, it looks like it's a certain way. But that can be challenged. And what I was gonna bring up on that, I think you pronounce it Oratik Tatiki? Oratik versus d apostrophe r c, Darcy, d r c. I'll say it correctly.
On that case, the court went further on to say that the passport is not evidence of your citizenship.
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Yep. So It says specifically the passport is an ex parte document. And if it is a matter of citizenship, it's whatever paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, if admissible in a court of law, should be considered the higher and better evidence. Now that's almost 200 years old law.
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200 years old. It's still good law. And plus, if you have a copy of your affidavit that you originally sent in, which you should, then that is the higher and best evidence. And nobody can rebut that. Nobody can say that you're not a Nashua.
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Nope. Nobody has a choice. To do that. Yeah. If they are telling you that, they're a tyrant. Like this magistrate judge in Irondale, Alabama. She is a she she is an absolute tyrant.
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Well, we've had, we've had some pushback on some of the passport applications, and they'll try to come back. And I think, you know well, some of them, they just really believe that if you're born in The United States, and let me say it differently. If you're born in one of the 50 states, that you're a US citizen.
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Yeah. Right?
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And so what we always came back with, Roger, and it's been successful, is if you're telling me that I have no choice but to be a US citizen, then that is violation of the thirteenth Amendment against involuntary servitude. And Right. When we point that out that they could could be in violation of the thirteenth Amendment, their attitude changes immediately and they've always complied and come back with, with the documents that we need to get the passport.
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Let me insert something here that I just picked up watching Alex. You know, at one point in all this court stuff, the law fair he's been going through, they were trying to take his name and say that they owned his name. And Alex went in and claimed it was involuntary servitude under the thirteenth amendment. Did you get the answer to that? No. He doesn't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Well, because he's a US citizen.
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Correct. Right in front of him.
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Wow. I don't know how that could possibly be. But was that their argument, or was that the court's decision? Yes. They came back, said you don't have access to thirteenth amendment.
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He said it on the air. Did they get?
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So but that's why this what? Federal courts or state courts that No. This is state court Connecticut.
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I think Oh, well. And and Connecticut Supreme Court is the one that turned down his appeal in this case.
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I'd like to see why they said he didn't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Well, they, they I don't think they they, of course, didn't explain it. And if you queried them, they probably wouldn't explain it even though they might know why. Okay? Because they can't let that cat out of the bag. But yet in the proceedings and here Alex is, I can't get any of his people to listen to me, and here he is Yeah. Saying it right on his show. Well But you unless you know all this other stuff, you don't know what he's saying.
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Right. Right. What I, what I learned from one of my mentors, Richard Cornforth, is that generally speaking, a judge can just cannot just make a decision willy nilly without providing the findings of fact that the court came to and applying the law to those facts. This is the whole legal system is wrapped up around proving facts around a case and applying the law to those facts. That makes up your case. And the judge is supposed to be a unbiased trier of those facts Yep. And applying the law to those facts. And both sides are coming in from different aspects, and they're arguing different points of law that should be applied to those facts. That's really it in everything.
I mean, one day I was I was, you know, cranking out some kind of motion, you know, and I think I was explaining to somebody, and then it dawned on me. Almost every court document that you put into the record or that you file in a court case starts out with maybe a brief little introduction of what the case is kind of about. And then secondly, you hit it with a list of chronological events that led up to the point of filing the lawsuit. And then you explain how the law should be applied to that to those facts. That's your case.
And in in any kind of motion, you you kinda do similar. You're you're saying here are the facts, and here's the law that supports a, typically, like, a motion for default judgment or motion for summary judgment where you never go to trial. And probably well over 80% of the cases are are, won through either default judgment or summary judgment. But let's go back to this. A judge is not supposed to just, you know, rule for one party or the other. They're supposed to provide you findings of the fact from that case and apply the law to that case, the proper law to that case.
Now in some states, if the if the judge doesn't do that, then any order they issued is void on its face, And you can challenge it. Wow. And I've seen some states that the judge didn't have to do that. You can follow-up for what I would call a motion for findings of fact and conclusions of law. That's the phrase. And now the judge in most instances is given up to thirty days to provide that. Now check this out. If you ask for that, that's that's kind of a post judgment request. If you ask for that and you appeal and the judge never gave that, I've seen appellate courts tell the lower court judge to provide their findings of fact and conclusions of law.
So it's a very powerful tool.
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Go ahead. Have you is is straw man have a baby or something? I keep hearing a baby in the background. That's not me. Is it Paul? Is he petting his cat or what?
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No. That's my my grandson.
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It's Jerry. Oh, hey, Jesse. Oh, it's Jerry. Okay. Okay, Jerry. That's Jerry. Mark,
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on that, so can I use that do I use that passport book or that card on that revocation of election?
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I don't need either one of them. You just you just on a revocation of election, you just need your your identity. You put in your your name, your address, your social the last four of your Social Security number. Use the address that you normally have been using to file your income taxes. And if there's a real question, you can always, take your your passport card and and copy it to the page that you're bailing in. But on the revocation of election Hold on, Jerry. On the revocation of election, it's notarized. The the thirteenth page, revocation of election is notarized.
Now you can change that to declaration and skip the notarization part. I don't believe it needs to be notarized. I don't even like the 13 pager because it's a memorandum of law explaining why you have a right to be a national. And, and then most people that had that 13 page revocation of election from Wise Paris, they paid like $1,500 for that thing. Well, I can't just give you a one page revocation of election, which is what I've been sharing with our our tax clients. I can't, you know, can't charge them $1,500 for one a document get that can be done in one page.
You know what I'm saying? So I just went through that 13 page and looked at the necessary elements then and it's it goes like this. Here's here's the revocation of election. Here's what I'm doing. And here's in the law that says I can do it. That's it. And you can put that on one page. But you can look through that 13 page revocation of election, select those two items out. I'm telling you what I'm doing. I'm telling you what authorizes me to do it and that's done. You sign it, seal it, send it in. And I I don't have our tax clients, notarize it.
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Also, it's instructive to mention. You know, Joe Lustica met a gal that was one of their reps, Paris a wife's Paris. Even though Okay. Even though he's dead. You know? She's still helping people. Do you know they didn't know anything about the affidavit and the change of status? She didn't. Yeah. They've still had some success with it ever dealing.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's voluntary to to, you know, pay that tax To to excuse me. To participate in that tax system is voluntary voluntary. Absolutely.
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Sure. They want your money. And it happens with
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and it happens with the very first tax return that you filed in your life. You opted in with your filing of your first tax return, and they have means of revoking your election to participate in the in the federal tax system.
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Mhmm. You know when those first started showing up, Mark? No. World War two, they would send it out as a victory tax. And once you'd volunteered in, you just continued to be sent the forms. Yeah. And it was supposed to have been Even though supposed to The IRS was not formed then. That was ten years before the IRS was formed. Have you ever seen that Treasury Order 51, Mark? That's if I remember right, that's where they internally formed the IRS and separated it from BATF. Treasury order, I believe it's 51 in 1951.
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No. I I haven't looked that stuff up. I tell you, Roger, once I found your, you know, your information care about that anymore, do you? Don't care. Doesn't matter. You know, all I need is that first paragraph Well in 26 t f r one dot one dash one and a. We're done. And we're done.
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Yeah. Well, for me, I learned all this stuff before I found the answer, so that's the difference. I and I've learned nothing out of my memory yet.
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Yeah. I learned a bunch of stuff. Rummel. Heard that name, but I don't recall what it was. Rummel. The famous Bids Bidsley.
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Bidsley. We got since we go to the store, Beardsley Rummell will go down in history as the guy that figured out taking of withholdings. Not that after the end of the year, you gotta file. We'll take the money out during the year, and then you have to file to get it back. Yeah. Yeah. And then we get you in filing, and now you're we know you're a serf. And if you and your wife file jointly, guess what? She is too.
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Yep. Yep. So Yep. Yeah. And It's a it detangles the web page that opens here. And you put all your children down there with their social security numbers and now they're tracking everybody.
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Yep. There you go. Or what about this? And after five zero one c three churches, when you tithe because it's tax deductible, they know who all the Christians are.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Back I'm trying to think when it I think it was under under Clinton. They were going after churches, and it would become a big deal because the IRS was bragging that they could go back through the churches under five zero one c three. And if they wanted, they could ask for a list of their parishioners. So Parishioners. About that time when I started
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go ahead. I got a thought, though, when you're finished. Go ahead. Okay. About that time is when I said,
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I I kinda looked at my my, ties, and I did my tax return that year with and without that deduction, and it was only, like, $200 difference. So I was like, well, you know, it's not like you can take a % of your tithing and charitable gifts off your tax record. It's a percentage of it. Right? Mhmm. So Mhmm. On mine, it only now this is back in the, what what did I say, nineties? It was the, early nineties. And so I it was only a $200 difference in my taxes. And I said, I don't care. And from that point on, I contributed anonymously with cash.
Comment. Yeah. That's how I did it. Uh-huh. And I, you know, I said, like, well, I'm not gonna open the door up to where I can be inspected with the microscope financially. So Alright. Anyway, go ahead, Robert.
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Well, Paul just wanted to say something. I had a couple of things I don't wanna forget. Paul, is yours short or long? Are you taking us in another direction or what? No. Mine is short, and it has to do with this. How stupid how stupid does the general public have to believe have to be
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for them to be told, oh, well, you better buy this before the end of the year. Otherwise, you won't be able to write it off. They're actually telling people, spend money to save 20%. Give me a break. Yeah. Yeah.
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How stupid. Response. Mhmm. I don't have one response to that, Paul. Hold on. You can do that. I don't have one response to that, Paul. Mine is short too, but I don't brag about it. I'm talking about my attention span. I'm talking about my attention span. Don't Yeah. Okay. Your mind's out of the gutter.
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We took that right off.
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No. We did we we didn't go there. You went there.
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Get your mind out of the gutter. Go ahead, Roger. Roger laughing. Alright. Doesn't this have I heard Julie laugh. Julie Julie Julie got a kick out of that. Doesn't this have remember in the early days, there was a church in Indianapolis that tried to go back and revoke their five zero one c three, and they ended up losing the whole church? I don't remember that whole thing, but I'll bet somebody in the audience does. Do you remember that, Mark? I don't know about losing the whole church, but I know Bob Jones University who
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sold lots of, college, Christian college books and so
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forth. Correct. And a
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lot of different materials. They decided it was worth giving up their their non tax status. And so years ago, they got out of their five zero one(three). But what's silly about that is if you read the five zero one(three) application from the IRS, right in the like first or second paragraph says, if you're a church, you don't need to fill this out. You do not need to apply for a five zero one c three if you are a church.
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Right. And that's true.
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Again, you know, I can only go back and look at what Dan and Gail Meder did up in Ponca City. They had a church. They register it with the state for $50. They use that registration, opened up a a bank account. Right? Banking purposes only. And they never filed a tax return. They bought property. It was the name of the church. Now there's your mileage is going to vary on this because from county to county it's going to be different. But in where they were at, they purchased a school, a school building that was no longer being used.
And we all chipped in to buy that place. And they put it in the name of the church and it never had property tax on it. Now that was the school. It might have been considered an industrial or or a commercial property, so it may never raise the question. Now, in Midwest City, there's a place, It's a residential home, but out in the front, they got their church name. And I know they're they're probably not paying property taxes because they've got it listed as a church. So, I, you know, that's that's this is what I've been trying to tell people that have been trying to get out of property taxes is look at what is exempt in in your county for property taxes and see if you can fit your property under any one of those classifications.
If you can, then that's the way to get out of property tax.
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Now a five zero one c three church is incorporated where the other churches you're talking about are not necessarily.
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They could be. They're just or not mostly. Okay. Yeah. There's a five zero one c one a that's supposed to be for faith based organizations. But, again, you're registering that with the with the IRS. Right. Now according to Weiss I think Weiss Paris. No. I I'm trying to think who it is. There's another organization that they claim that that you don't have to file a tax return if you're a five zero one c one a.
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I believe that's five zero eight c one a. Fifth based organization.
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That's correct. That's correct. 508.
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Hi. Hey, guys. Yes? That church that church you were talking about, brother, it was Indianapolis Baptist Temple, and Right. It was doctor Greg Dixon.
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That's right. I remember that now. They did close the church down, didn't they? Or the IRS seized it or somebody wanted the land that's very valuable land or something.
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Yeah. Yeah. He was right. Nixon's right. He he was all but they made an example out of him. That's right. Yeah. You know? And, he act he actually, was a professor of mine back in bible college, and we became friends over the years. He he he died an old guy, and he he was 87 years old. He died around 02/2020, but we kept in cuts over the years. And he eventually moved to Florida. But, yeah, the church is still going. But, yeah, they made an example out of it. You know, beware lest you try this.
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Yeah. Don't stand up against us. We're powerful. You're just a peon. That kind of deal. It's the reason people are so terrified.
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Right. Go ahead. There's a create there's a creationist professor. I forgot his name. It's not Ken Ham, but, somebody else, and he's got, a tourist attraction. They made an example out of him too and put him in jail. And he was in jail, but he's out now, but he still has his, creation teaching ministry that he does. And he always tells people. He says, I have never failed to pay any due taxes.
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Yeah. Any constitutional
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law. Any any legal tax which darn up. You know what I'm saying? He's saying the right thing, and he frames it in a way. So he he that's what he says. But he went to jail. And and what So they do What what what uh-huh.
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What's your name?
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This is Irby.
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Oh, Irby. Okay. We hadn't talked to you in a while. Okay. Yeah. Got you now. A blessing. It's always a blessing. Counts are blessing, man. That's one of them. Oh, man. Listen. Greg got you to something that we're real short on and need to be real long on. It's a it's a wonderful emotion. K? And,
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yeah, he saw us. He was a good pain. He was a good man.
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Dixon. Well, I just remember all that hubbub. I re I remember all that hubbub about it. And if I'm not right, it seems like underneath the whole thing was the church was on a real valuable piece of real estate. Is that right?
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Well, they didn't raise the church or anything. I don't know how all the legal, but the church is still there. You know, it's still operational. I imagine that they had to do the five zero one c three status and stuff. But, yeah, it was My bad. It was a big deal. It was a big deal. Uh-huh. And and part of that five zero one c three, if you join with that side over there,
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your parishioners that donate to the church get to use that as a tax deduction. That's how they sucked all this in. Mark, have you ever heard Brent tell the story about where that came from? You know where it came from?
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No. I don't.
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Lyndon Johnson. Because the church has almost got him defeated, and he went back and said, I'll take care of that crap, and five zero one c three comes along. And what the stipulations of it are is that there's I believe there's a list of about 27 or 28 things that are considered public policy that you can't preach from the pulpit against, like income tax, abortion, etcetera, etcetera. Unless you're one of their preferred churches and then you can say whatever you want and they'll never touch you.
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Yeah. Well, it's interesting. According to what I'm searching on the on the Internet, says that the Indianapolis Baptist Temple lost their original church building, in 02/2001. The federal marshal seized the property due to unpaid taxes and penalties. The church moved to a new leased building in 02/2006 renovating it for their worship services, and they continue to grow and thrive, even increasing membership during this period. But they did not regain their original property.
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Yep. It it was all over the property right there. The property is gone. But I knew the church the church is just different in a different still there. But I know the people are still around. Okay. Good. Yeah. Well, they probably did. They probably got buried treasure under there or something. I don't know. Yeah. It's That was a big big headlines
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as sometime in the early days of my patriot, life. Sure. Remember
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it. Now think about this. What would have happened if that property had been in a trust?
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Well, that's a great alter question, isn't
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it? Yeah. If that property had been in a trust and the church had been leasing it from the trust, then the church wouldn't own any property to have lost.
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Yep. Well, now, brother, you you know you're just supposed to you know you're supposed to be quite set up and just obey the government like reverend Romans 13 says. Now let's just get let's just all get in that line. You know? That's a I think that's another soldiers.
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I think that's another program, Urbie.
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Yep. Over on the other It's interesting, you know, there's so much Bible verses that have been taken out of context. It's just sad. Oh, it's the idea. For instance, when when they talk about render under Caesar what is Caesar's and and they talk about, they were having to pay a temple tax, right? So Jesus and the apostles are, where were they headed? Was it for the census or going to the temple? There was some kind of tax, or they weren't in their homeland, but they were asked Peter if they were going to pay the tax and Peter said yes. Well if you go down further he was kind of chastised by Jesus for doing that and he said, one of the things that Jesus asked him was, does a king's children pay a tax?
And the answer is no. And he said, nonetheless, since you agreed, in other words, you made a contract, verbal contract, go get catch the fish, then it'll have a gold coin in its mouth. Damn. Yep. Take that coin and pay the tax. So see, the Jesus was was pointing out that you shouldn't have to pay that tax. But all the churches and and most pastors will tell you that you gotta pay a tax because of that of that verse Yes. Of of the those scriptures, and it's not true. That's not what you're saying.
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I've come from the diagram, but here here's the thing. I am the higher power, not them. They are our servants, and we are their rulers. They should be paying us. The you know, if you're gonna stick to that interpretation, be subject to the higher powers. That's we the people. Me. My person. I am the higher power, not them. Yeah.
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I agree. I agree. It just But but they tricked you out of it. Yeah. Not only did they trick you out of it, but now they got you paying for it. So you you take states like Oklahoma that's rich in in resources like, oil and gas, but yet we're paying for, we're subsidizing all of that. The taxpayers are subsidizing that when the companies that are accessing those resources, which are owned by the people, should be owned by the people, they have the state paying them instead of these companies paying the state for that right to do what they're doing with oil and gas and coal. And you know, look at Alaska. They they, have a tax, I believe, on their oil.
And I think, what is it? Once a year or something, they have a a check that goes to the Alaska.
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I have a, I have a guy from Alaska in our lunch group. Last year, it was $2,000 per resident. You have to be a resident. There you go. That's a requirement. And they pull it off of whatever the proceeds are that they've got in investments and whatever the investments pay, they take that and split it up among the residents and give eve everybody an even check. And, of course, you're talking about Trump's about to open up Anwar up there, folks. Anwar's got more oil in Saudi Arabia. K? Yep. So, there's good there's some changes are coming. There was something I wanted to say, that, Mark, did you hear when George came on and talked about one of my distant relatives over there in England? George O'Sales?
Well, he came up to somewhere, this guy George O'Sailes, and I'm English. Her name comes to English. Well, hell, he's about as big a rabble razzler as I am, turns out. So he must be in he must be in the genes somehow. And, I don't remember what all he did, but back there a couple hundred years ago, he's raising hell over there about something. And, so it does, runs in the family.
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Reminds me of Alex Jones talking about Trace's lineage from coming over on on the Pilgrim ships.
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Right. And, you know, they were Well, we do too. They fought We do too. They fought
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in the in the, revolutionary war. So Right. It's kinda in its mud.
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Well, the sales family was on the Mayflower. That's in my grandfather and his brother's, genealog genealogical research. And we had somebody here the other day from, oh, right around, Rhode Island and Providence. And I in that paper that I read on this years ago, it said there's a one of the main streets in Providence, Rhode Island is named Sales Avenue, and he confirmed that. And, it also said there's a building at Brown University that is named the Sales Building. The Sales family in those days, well, they they somehow got into bleach, and they were many of them were in the bleach business.
And, one of the sales girls married Roger Williams. So, yeah, pretty pretty entrenched history up there. It's one part of the country. I've never been to the Northeast, actually, outside of New York. But, yes, very rich family background, I guess, and that added to it the other day when George brought that out and, told us about George sales. So we're we're we're a radical bunch here. I like it. Can you imagine
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if you discovered that your distant relatives and Alex Jones' distant relatives were on the same ship?
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Well, that sounds sounds like they were. I know they were on the Mayflower because that was in that paper. That would be a hell of a coincidence, wouldn't it? Yeah. It would be. And I'm also pretty pretty, pretty assured and have come to the conclusion that they had to be involved in the first Thanksgiving because everybody in the sales family cooks. Okay? And cooking's a big deal to them. So I'm sure they Well, what? Broasted some corn over and over and over. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, just a little background. That's true on our family. And, you know, it's funny when I read that years ago, it was it was neat information, but it didn't mean anything to me like it means now that we're into this Right. And have been for a number of years. That's when it came to be important.
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Yeah. You know, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, and especially, I don't know why, but I've always it's kinda like even from a little kid. I enjoyed Thanksgiving above everything else. It's just a totally different atmosphere. And then, in my early adult Christian life, I discovered that all the other holidays that Christians, celebrate are a conversion of a pagan holiday. So when Constantinople said everybody will be Christian, then the Christians started adapting the pagan holidays to fit their holidays. Yep. But that's I think that's a a huge mistake. You know, when we talk talk about Easter that we just, celebrated, well, that's not a that's not a Christian word at all. It came from a a fertility god named Ishtar. You can see how that got construed to Easter.
The Yep. The bunny rabbit and laying eggs, that's all fertility god worship. You know? And,
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a bunny rabbit laying eggs.
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Who who who never heard of a ridiculous thing like that?
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And then I'm gonna pull the pin and drop this one in on everybody. Easter wasn't on Sunday. Right? Oh, I should say resurrection day was not on Sunday. And when you go back and look at the the Jewish traditions back then, the the they had a high Sabbath that was celebrated. And so it looks like from from a historical purpose and what Jesus said, that Jesus was actually crucified. I believe it had been on a Wednesday afternoon, and he and he rose again Saturday morning, if I got my numbers right. So so it's not you know, he said he'll be in the earth three days and three nights as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish. Well, if everybody celebrates his death on a Friday, which was supposedly good Friday, and he resurrected on Sunday morning, that's not three days and three nights. So there's some some conflict. Now with that being said with that being said, it it does not affect your salvation.
So I don't get hung up and I don't normally try to correct people on that because it doesn't affect your salvation. So but I tell you it's fascinating when you look at the Orthodox Hebrew customs, the Israelites customs, they line up perfectly with really what, the Christian church would be following. It's a shadow of the life of Christ is celebrated routinely throughout the year in these these celebrations, these traditions. Yes. So that is really fascinating. Years ago, there was I don't know how I got up on this topic, but years ago, there was a gentleman named Joseph Good, and I saw him interview on a on a TV channel and he was explaining some of the Jewish traditions.
His sister married a Jew and he asked God to show him a way to reaching for Christ and God started revealing all these Jewish traditions. And the festivals that they keep are direct reflection of the life of Christ. It's a foreshadowing, and and Christ fulfilled every one of those. And it's absolutely fascinating. Anyway, that I I picked up on that. I bought his materials, and it was really eye opening.
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Eye yield. Yep. Question for Mark.
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Yes. Go ahead.
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Mark, have you ever heard Rush Limbaugh when he read his father's essay on the true story of Thanksgiving?
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No.
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I don't think I've heard that either. You should look it up. I was pretty well, I was a pretty loyal rush listener back in the early days, especially.
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I was until he supported NAFTA. And I'm like, oh, you know?
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Uh-huh. With bother him. Have to listen Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say I couldn't listen to him in Atlanta. I'd heard about him. And, the way I'd have to listen to Rush was on a good day, we could catch a skip out of w w l in New Orleans. And the reason they didn't have him in Atlanta is because Atlanta is one of the worst AM markets in the world because of Stone Mountain and the, out it's so totally underlied by granite. And AM radio, one of the components is a ground wave. And with that granite there, they can't kick out a ground wave that goes very far. That's why AM is terrible in Atlanta. So, anyway, just a little radio background for you. What a what WSB did to overcome that, the big Cox flagship station there, WSB AM FM TV, and they own the journal constitution, was they went out by Stone Mountain and got a bulldozer out there, Mark Of course. And bulldozed a big chunk of a field out down about a foot or two or more, and then put a total copper plate down there. And they attach the transmitter to it so the copper kicks out the ground wave. That's why you get WSB so far, and it overcomes that problem of that granite.
But Stone Mountain out there to the East Of Atlanta where they've got the Confederate generals and stuff carved into Stone Mountain there, that's the largest outcrop of granite in the world. Wow. Yeah. Yep. Pretty interesting. Georgia's got a lot of granite. That's why they did those Georgia Guidestones there. Because one of the requirements was the quality of the granite, and they've got a big company there called North Georgia Granite right up there back where I used to live North Of Atlanta. And they didn't have very far to take that excellent granite from North Georgia granite over to the place where the guide stones were built. Wow. Anytime you see pink granite, it comes from North Of Atlanta right there. It's the only place in the world they've ever found it.
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Interesting.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. It is kinda. One of the attributes of Georgia, little history a lot of people don't know about. So listen. We got a couple of minutes left. We we were talking with Erby. Was that you or who was commenting there that I stepped on?
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It wasn't me, but I was when I had earlier about, Jesus, the two gods that he said we had to choose from. It was interesting that he said, you know, either the true god or mammon money, not the devil. Yeah. Well, exactly. You know? It it was mammon. It was just like
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now these people, they're all hungry about the money. Uh-huh. The love of money. Back to, you get back to Brent, and what does Satan translate as? Do you remember? Distributor of wealth. Distributor of wealth. Really? Yes. That's profound, isn't it? That same reaction I had that you just had right there.
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And you see it. I mean, once your eyes are open, you can't unsee it, but it that's the common denominator, man. It's all about the money. Yep. It really is. Yep. It's sad. That's why I weaned myself off of it a long time ago. And and,
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here's what the in my younger days, the very elementary formal logic here. I said, You know, it seems to me that people with a bunch of money, they're either laying awake half the night thinking about who's gonna steal it from them, or they're laying awake the other night trying to figure out how to get more. So either way, you're asleep and you're awake at night. K? So I've just never been into it. I mean, I was a little more when I was younger, but, I've gotten out of that for years. And, boy, less is more. I I say that on the show here all the time. Less is more. Really.
K. It's not you see, you don't own things. Things own you. It's just a reverse. That nice car, you got insurance. You gotta wash it. You gotta change that oil. You gotta do this and do that, all that. It really is commanding your attention. And I'm just better off without any of that crap. Yes, Dave. Yeah. Hey. Howdy. Howdy. We we used to go to this church, and the they had a preacher there. His name was Les Les Moreland. Alright. He was on the right direction direction. Yep. You're right. Thanks. Thanks, Dave. Yep. So anybody else in the audience that's, we've touched on something you want to comment on? There was somebody, I think was it Rich? Rich, was that you that I stepped on a minute ago and we hadn't gotten back to you?
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Well This is Rick.
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Yeah. I thought so. You got a echo. Didn't you weren't you saying something a minute ago that I that I stepped on? Well,
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I was just gonna give you a short synopsis of, Russia's father's story, Massachusetts Bay Colony. Oh. When they, got there, they had a charter, and the charter was basically communistic. And they had, everyone's was supposed to work and put the stores in a comp communal warehouse. And, that first winter, they almost starved because there were a lot of people that worked hard, but a lot of them didn't work at all. They figured, well, they'd be taken care of. Right. And the next year, they changed the charter, and it was all everyone for himself. If you didn't work, you didn't eat. And they had an abundant harvest, and that's when they, threw to the festival and invited the Indians to it.
The Indians taught them how to plant corn, but it was the change in the charter that saved them.
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Very interesting. I've never heard that before. It makes perfect sense. Communism never works because nobody's got any damn initiative. The other people suck your initiative, and the whole thing falls on his face. Every time, it's never done otherwise. So my observation, boy, I don't like communist. I don't like communism. I just detest them. Well, it's Okay. Anybody else got something to go? There's Paul. Paul's got something. What, buddy? Well, socialism and wealth distribution
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only works as long as the rich find out that there's no reason to work hard because they won't be able to keep it anyway.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, I've said that the only thing a majority of people have ever done is vote their hands into your pockets.
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Mhmm. Period. Okay.
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Yes. Who who else is starting to say something there?
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I was thinking about, communism being the distributor of wealth. Yes.
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Yeah. But it's it's not. It's they don't distribute it to anybody. They keep it for themselves to rule over you.
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Distributive misery.
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Well, if you go back to equal opportunity misery. Go go ahead, Mark. If you go back to what Brent was saying that the definition of Satan was the distributor of wealth, and you look at communism, which is the distribution of wealth, there you go. Yeah. Put it together.
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My friend who helped turn me on, hold on, Larry, to this whole tax movement, Stan Bravi, now dead, Russian Jew. And he would say, we pretended to work, and they pretended to pay us.
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That's so true.
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The best story was the one about social medicine, and his brother had lost an arm in World War two. And so his I don't remember which one, but the other arm was bothering him. And so he went to the doctor, and he goes in, sits down, And the doctor goes, what's wrong? And he goes, well, my arm's hurting. And he goes, well, use the other one.
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Yeah.
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It's He never even got stuck to
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see, he only had one arm. That reminds me Larry, what you got? That's great stuff. Larry. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think I know where Brent gets the definition from. If you go to, Ezekiel chapter 28, most theologians believe that the prophet was speaking to the prince of Tyrus, but really that that's true, but really he was speaking through the prince of Tyrus to Satan. And the verses go like this, The word of the Lord came again unto me saying, son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, thus saith the Lord God, because thine heart is lifted up and thou has said, I am a God. I sit in the seat of God in the midst of the seas, yet thou art a man and not God.
Though thou set thine heart as the heart of God, behold, thou art wiser than Daniel. There is no secret that they can hide from thee. With thy wisdom and with thine understanding, thou hast gotten thee riches and has gotten gold and silver into thy treasures. Now get this verse, by thy great wisdom and by thy traffic hast thou increased thy riches and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches.
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Did that say by thy traffic?
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Seriously? Exactly. King King James version. Exactly. That is Well, that that might be That is how the states fund themselves.
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Oh, that's funny.
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That's rich. Well, I would think traffic more like merchandise, trade, etcetera. You can look at it in that definition. Roger. That's what the word really means. Uh-huh. And it's just a beautiful language. I know a lot of people swear on the King James. When the translators said on the front page there are over 500 mistranslations in this book, and we're not to blame, that just throws a blanket on it for me. Sorry. Roger, traffic means commerce. I like I like yeah. Commerce. I like my, for our Fenton bible. So, anyway, we'll we'll be back tomorrow. There's our whistler, obviously. It's been a pretty good discussion today. We always appreciate Mark being along and, everybody else, of course.
But, we'll we'll trudge on and see what the day's events look like. You know, we might even have a new student or something tomorrow. We haven't seen one of those in a couple of weeks anyway. So, we will go on about our day and see how tomorrow begins when I join you again.
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So, I promise you get none of these. Larry's got something else to add. Yes, sir? Really quick. Yeah. You you're right by mentioning that word merchandise because later on down in the verses, it says, thou was perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created till iniquity was found in thee by the multitude of thy merchandise. They have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned. Therefore, I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God, and I will destroy thee, oh, covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
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Was he talking about Black Lives Matter or Antifa? I don't know. We'll stay tuned, and we'll
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come back and talk about it. Of the earth.
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Oh, yeah. The merchants of the earth. Okay, kids. Well, we enjoyed it. Hope you did too. Ciao. Okay. Well, that's the end of that. Boy, is the sun shining briskly today. That's nice. Yeah. Mark always yes. You may.
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Urbie.
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Yes. This is Urbie. I, my findings were this when I went deep dive into the King James. What you are talking about is the King James people said, we only we could not translate some words in here, and they're talking about names of cities or plants or animals that there is in all of their research, there's no other place that this word is found other than in the King James. So we gave our best guess. It may or may not be right. And if anything is found in the future, it may shed light upon it, but we have to give our best shot in this case.
They didn't admit to this being an error. They just said, hey. This is the only time this word appears in all of human history, and it's right there. So what does it mean? It wasn't They didn't have admitted a mistake.
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Alright. Okay. Well, they didn't have as many manuscript. Alright. They didn't have as many manuscripts to rely on either back then by any means. Well, they they actually they had all the manuscripts that have found been found since
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were reflective of what they had. Okay. It's not like Mhmm. Okay. All the new stuff, all the new stuff that has been found since agree with the manuscripts that they use. Just confirm that. I'll confirm. It's it's 9595% of all manuscripts agree. Let not agree. This is my forte. This is my strength. This this out this whole area is, agrees with what the King James has been, founded upon. And I used to be a very staunch, extreme anti King James hater and could defeat any type of King James defender back when I was a pro modern version. So I I understand both sides of the equation together.
Okay. That that's that.
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Okay. Great, Irby. I I rely back on about a five part series that pastor Pete had called the King James only version. You can probably still go on scriptures for america.org, and I'll order those tapes. But they went over a very, very well, five hours worth of discussion and background on it. So Comment. Anyway, Joe, you were yeah. I know you're there, Joe. Hey, buddy. What you got?
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I invite Ervie to bring Erasmus into the discussion.
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Well, I'll invite you to go ahead and look. I have, probably 5,000 videos on the version issue on my YouTube channel that will get into all of that. And, they do a lot better job than me. But, yeah, there's there's too too big a subject to handle here, but I I the a worse cult than King James only is the cult of the original autographs only because there is no such thing. Nobody's ever had any original autographs. The when the originals were pinned shortly thereafter, those were destroyed and copies of copies of copies made. So anything and everything we have is from a copy. So the issue is, did God preserve the transmission of the originals through the process of preservation?
That's the issue. But the cult of original onlyism is far, far worse, and I was one. So I know what I'm speaking about. I don't even think I ever heard of that one. Herb. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I haven't heard of that before. When Jesus quoted, when he held up that book of Isaiah and quoted from it, That was a preserved copy of the original. It wasn't the original autographs. There is no such thing. There never has been such a that's that's a straw man that critics put out there to justify their false assumptions because and and and guys, I'm one of them. I'm not gonna be on the dumb team. I'm a smart guy with a smart tribe, and we are the superior ones. And you need to shut up and listen to us. That's our human default setting.
And, you know, I I just I went after it like, you know what? I may be wrong and come to find out my side, the modern version sides were the ones misquoting, misrepresenting, and, they they were telling the stories. They were telling a bunch of falsehoods. And it took me about four years to get out of that. I'm literally studying four to five hours a day on that one singular topic about which version. And, yeah, I'm and and now, hey. I'll throw I'll throw it out there. I'll live up to my name and say and now through the crazy what whatever you wanna call it, Mandela effect, quantum jumping attacks, The King James version is changing through that because it no longer says lion in the lamb. It says wolf in the lamb. It's got a whole bunch of changes in there. How's that happening? I don't know, but it is happening. Him and
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they must be be getting together with Scofield and rewriting the notes.
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Well, yeah, it's it's more than that. Oh, I was a big Scofield guy. I I I like yeah. It's I was all into that. Hey. I was big time. It's amazing. Well, Irby, it always amazed me how the notes keep changing long after Scofield's died.
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That's the one. He's reaching back from the grave and changing the things. Yeah. They're they're they're it's it's sad. It's sad. I know. Well, that's why like that. Listen. That's why this little resource right here, our little radio program, is such a valuable resource. Because if you can find her or we can find you, we can get you out all that crap and put you down pretty well a pretty straight road. Okay? So, anyway, if you if you're the right person, as I've said earlier in the show today, if you're the right person and this information crosses your path, you may not know jack scutally about law or history or anything else, but you know there's something of great substance here, and it grabs you. And you can't shake it.
K? That's my experience. Do all you people those are All of y'all are right here are like that. K? And so am I. Paul only had And that's a total one third of a damn presentation, and look where he is and what he's done. Do what, Joe?
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Roger.
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Yeah. Yes. Is that Joe?
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Yeah. Jesse. No. That's Jesse. Do you hear me?
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Yeah. I hear you, Jesse.
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Yeah. And another thing about the King James, the original King James sixteen eleven, they changed everything in 1786. So most people that have King James, they think they have it from the original one, but it's really the revised one for 1786, and they added the Don't. Don't.
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Don't. Don't go there. It's not changed. It was let's it was Greek. It was it was the different FICA. They had a Germanic type way of spelling English words. The f's look like s's, the u's were the v's, the v's were the w's. All of that stuff, there was no listen. There was no standardized spelling. You could spell savior five different ways on the same page that nothing was changed. It was just
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a standardized Well, what I'm saying, they added it. For example, before that before that, there was no j and they added the j on the seventeenth.
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Yes. So all of that stuff that that's not an attack. That's not a attack. That's not Let me finish.
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Let me finish. Not let me finish. I'm not saying one thing or the other. I'm saying that most people in the sixteenth century century came to The United States from Europe with the Geneva Bible. Geneva Bible. Right. They they did not use for about a hundred, two hundred years. The King James, they they really rebuked, King James, and, and they thought they were just being manipulated because, you know, he was like the the god of, earth, and that's why they didn't like it. So most for about a hundred fifty years, most of the religious or spiritual people will use the, Geneva Bible, not and 70% of the King James had the, Geneva Bible script
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there. That's all I want. All of those all of those seven versions of English before King James, they were based on the same underlying Greek and Hebrew text and manuscripts. That's the thing. It was from the same family tree. Geneva was was built up was, translated in Switzerland under Calvinism, and the King James people didn't like that. They said we want our own bible from our own land, not over there from France or Switzerland or wherever it was. We're good enough to do do our own stuff. That's their version. Let's do ours. But it was still the same group of family manuscripts. That's what people don't think. It's not it's just another
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another manifestation of the same stuff in a different way. What they and that's what they do with the American standard. They were trying to have their own English version. It's it's the But those versions,
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all all, 100%, including the so called new King James version, All of them are based upon the corrupted, changed manuscripts. Guys, listen. Just like today, you read a Bible, people who believe in god are not gonna want to change. They're just going to copy it out into their own language and roll with it, believing God to use his word. Other people are gonna say, you know what? I don't believe that. I'm going to change it. And they correct and they corrupt what is said. Well, I believe what god really meant there was this, and they literally change it. And there's a whole group of those smarter than god people who created their own manuscripts.
And that is the, critical text, and that's their use. They critique the bible, and they man it man it up, and they put their versions upon it. And that's where every single without exception modern version comes from. Modern manuscripts come from the corrupted text. Plain and simple, big overview. And not recognizing that is to our own detriment. And I had to get over my prior training. I'll I'm deeply involved into all that theological programming from both sides. And I had to, you know, skip it out through my own. But, yeah. So I've been there, done that, and I understand it. Irby, what do you think of the Farrar Fenton Bible?
That one I don't know about. That's I I I don't know. I I don't know. You're kidding. That's a new one. You know what you need? A man of your background, you need to know about this.
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I heard about it on pastor Pete. I bought I bought my copy through pastor Pete. His story will almost make you cry. It's at the front. You can find it on the web. It's all downloadable. Some of the books, he adjusted around a little differently. For r Fenton was an incredible guy. He went to Oxford. He was an atheist. And somewhere along the line, he got saved, and he thought that the reason that the, English were losing their empire, this in the eighteen hundreds, late '18 hundreds, was because the people couldn't read the King James Bible. They weren't using that type of language anymore.
And so he went to translate the Bible into plain English. And he exclusively used the Greek manuscripts, and, he was in contact with all of the other Greek scholars around the world. And every time he got to a word, he would stop translating and write a letter on that word in question, and he would not proceed further until he got back an answer from every one of the people he wrote to. K? And, he didn't finish. It was his lifelong project. He's a very successful businessman evidently in about five about five different areas. But, the what I can tell you is my you you know who James Brugeman is? Is that name familiar to you, Irby?
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No, sir. No.
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He's a he's a circuit pastor from Asheville and, used to travel the Southeast, and he'd come to Atlanta. He was our pastor, and he knew Greek and Hebrew and all that stuff. And and what was amazing was when he'd get to a word that he was unsure of the translation, he would stop and go over all the possibilities and all that stuff. And I the one I particularly remember is Guyana. Okay? And so but every time when he go over all that and there was another fellow in the congregation that had a Farfinton bible too. He's a good friend of mine. And every time, it was always correct.
In any of those situations with Bregaman, the Farfinton bible had the correct answer. You ought to go look at it. It's a very, very readable English. F e r r a r f e n t o n. And just read the, the introduction of of it. Yeah. I promise you'll make you cry. K? That's just quite a And And you've never heard with all your stuff Honestly, no. And everything that you've prop pontificated on us here, that's pontificated.
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Well, the all my deep studies, it was back you know? And then once I came to the conclusion, I understood. But that, I had not come across that particular one, but all the rest of them. And I used to have a seven day seminar where I would go to different churches and present this material that I found out. Uh-huh. And that's one of the things I did on these modern versions. I read their induct you know, their introductions where, you know, the the prefaces and all that stuff. And King James did the same thing. They've taken out the prefaces and all that, but they explained in there what they did. And as soon as the King James people, which I trust the 50 guys that did it over one person, you know, they all they all had to have a mastermind group, and they all checked each other's work.
So I trust that process over me slaving over my stuff, you know, the the mastermind. But, I read those things, and and they told on themselves. They all admitted, yeah. We don't use oh, well, they'll say we use what King James did, but we have better translate. And they they define better manuscripts. Here's what they mean. Well, this is a better manuscript. It's in better condition. It's a pristine book just like my, Jehovah's Witness and Mormon Bible up there on the shelf. I hardly use them. They are in pristine, excellent shape.
That doesn't mean they're right because my Bible is wore out. It's tore up, and I've had to throw away some. They're in the trash heaps, and that's where the manuscripts that the King James is translated on. They're abused. They're worn out. They're broken. But the critical people say, well, that bible is in better shape. And they're, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus and the ones they found in these libraries. They're beautiful, beautiful works of art. So they say that's a better, more preserved manuscript.
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That's their understanding. Encourage you. And that's not true. With your back or with your background, I really hope you'll go look a little bit at Farfinton, maybe compare it to some of the things that you normally use, and and and come back and give us your opinion on it. I'd be very interested. It's quite an impressive bible, and it very few people know about it. I've got a copy here with me. K? I'm looking at it. I wonder if it's I brought South America.
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I use I use, that on online, the my blue letter bible or something. It's got all kinds of
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all kinds of good aids. I mean, you know, it's one click away, man. I don't have to reach out to Okay. Pull down 15 different bibles anymore. I'll just I'll just yeah. Look at it. I think you'll be impressed. It's very well done. It's never wrong. In in the situations where it was put to the test,
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in my hand, it's never been wrong.
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So, always every time is right. So, anyway, listen, kids, I'm gonna get out of here, probably go to lunch. It's a provocative conversation and stimulating. And, if you guys wanna continue it, I certainly encourage you to do so. But unless anybody's got something specifically for me, after two hours of this, I'm just kinda mentally drained, you know, running the show here. And, if you've never done it, you don't know what it takes out of you. Yes, sir, Larry.
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Yeah. Before you go, a couple of years ago, I read, somewhere there's this article, and they did actually did a scientific test on the King James Bible and they took a number of other versions, and they compared to see if the King James version was more difficult to read and the conclusions they came to what they did is they got a group of people together to read various verses out of the out of all the different Bibles and then they were asked to see if they understood it and if they can explain it. And they had all these different ways of measuring these tests. And the conclusion they came to was the King James version was actually written in a more simple language and it was written at a fifth a fifth grade education level.
Yep. And another thing is a lot there's this big argument out there that, oh, the King James is it's got all that old archaic language in there. But the thing that most people don't understand is in the Greek, the Greek, whenever you would, dissect a word, I forget what that's called, but you can tell if you're if that word was referring to a single person or a group of people and all that. Well, the King James preserved that from the Greek. For example, whenever you read the word ye, y y e in the King James version, then you know that the speaker is talking to a group of people, some, you know, more than one person and if you read the word the t h e e, you know that the speaker is talking to one specific person in in front of them. So by eliminating all of the these, thousand, yeas, what they did was they they they caused the the the Bibles to lose that distinction of whether they're talking to one person or a group of people.
And so that that's an interesting thing that I I read about. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, you need to do that. Copy?
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They brought what? They brought that. The King James the King James translators brought that back because of that problem. That was a 300 earlier thing that English people did that wasn't in the sixteen hundreds, but they said, hey. We gotta correct this. How can we do that? Because, like, now, you, you know, you can say y'all, you, and it's all everybody. So to distinguish that very thing to keep the integrity in there, they brought back the old v's and vowels. Anything's a t. It's a single like a man like like, picture a man standing there at attention t and the e's are your arm stretched out. Those are plural. All the white words are plural. And they brought that back in from three hundred years ago and and put it into that translation.
[02:21:51] Unknown:
Mhmm. Did you hear about the version where the printer I'm sorry? What now? Go go go go repeat.
[02:22:01] Unknown:
For our Fenton Bible, $65 on Amazon.
[02:22:05] Unknown:
That was pretty good. I paid 50 for it a long time ago. Have you heard about the Bible that, the the that the printer left out the knot in one of the commandments? Have y'all heard about that? This true story. When they just used to have Oh, yeah. Big Bible on Yeah. There's a bunch of those. Those damn printed Bibles came up with some stuff, man. They came up with some stuff. Well, the guy that you have that Bible because everybody couldn't didn't have a Bible, they'd have a big King James. It'd be up on a podium on the side of the church, I guess, where you could go look at it and look up verses.
And the printer that printed one of the versions where it said, thou shalt not commit adultery, left out not. So it said, thou shalt commit adultery. And so all the parishioners had pointed out, and they'd go up there and look at it and giggle. And King James, I think, had the guy beheaded. God Brent knows about it.
[02:23:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know about that. But, yeah, they had they had the two printers, Oxford and Cambridge. And another little twist to the King James store that people don't know about, one of those Oxford guys, a new guy came in, and he did not like being told how to do this stuff. So he changed a few things in the King James, the official King James authorized King James text that was handed down from the crown, and then these two printing houses printed that. Oxford said, forget you guys. I'm doing my own thing. So there is two different versions of the King James, and that is a legit argument. And the one that stayed with the original text is the Cambridge edition. And that's another little theme that people don't know about, but it's fine. I mean, if if I get an Oxford, I just go in there and write and and change it. And it does matter. I mean, there's a few of them that does matter things. But yeah. So the Cambridge edition, lineage is the correct one because they didn't change anything. Oxford bucked up, and I'm proud. The Oxford people said, oh, we're gonna do it right. And they changed with the, crown. It said it was the authorized official stuff.
[02:24:23] Unknown:
Cool. Alright. Anybody else got anything for me? I'm assuming not, and I've got to do things. Bathroom, lunches, all kinds of mandatory things. I will see you all tomorrow. Have a great day. Enjoy the conversation. Hope you did too.
[02:24:56] Unknown:
I'm looking for that for our that fitting bible draw on PDF file right now. I'm looking for that.
[02:25:03] Unknown:
I think there's some paperbacks that are probably cheaper.
[02:25:08] Unknown:
No. PDF is free. It's digital. I just use digital.
[02:25:11] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Archivearchive.org.
[02:25:13] Unknown:
That's wasted. If if you if you got if to look for a book, here's how you do it. A hack, a search hack. Use Yandex or Google or whatever. I use, Yandex usually. You put in brackets PDF, and then you put out the title of the book or the man's name and often sometimes in parentheses because it hits that title. And then at the end of that, you put down without brackets PDF, and it'll take you directly to any PDF files that's out there. And you can just download the book. And there's two or three resources out there that does that for you. One is called Anna's archives. Of course, archive.org, the Wayback Machine, that's a good place. But Anna's archives, Anna's dash archives dot org, that is a fantastic book finding in epublish or Moby, whatever text it is. They find that. And also oceanofpdf.com, they have, I don't know how they do it. I mean, it's amazing. Take the heart to me, man. Because the back in the hard book, they I used to have to go, you know, find the publishers, write to them, buy the books online, wait for it to come to you, read something in a footnote, and find that book. And it was a long laborious process, but I had I had a library.
But, man, when I found when it was on CDs and DVDs, I I gave those books away, man. I just said this is for me. And now you don't even have to have the CDs. You don't even have to have plug a CD into a a a boot or anything. You just I just on this little phone, I've got this amazing amazing stuff, man. This is an impossible technology I'm holding in my hand. Scientists couldn't even dream it up two old people ago, but here we are. But you're the only audiobook.
[02:27:07] Unknown:
How about audiobooks? Are they there too?
[02:27:12] Unknown:
No. Audiobooks are on archive.org. I I hadn't looked for the audiobooks. And what I'm what I'm doing, just because the the time wise, I'm trying to determine which of the reading There's reading programs out there. There's apps that you can download that will read your electronic books for you. And, that's that's what I'm looking to do now because I have a big library, but to sit here and, you know, physically look and read, Although, I'm speed reading. It's just better to speed listen because you can, you know, work and do stuff with your hands at the same time as listening to the stuff. So multitasking.
Yeah. Audio books. Yeah. That's that's an amazing thing too. And all this technology, man, it's it's not just I'm like a little freaking kid all day long. I'm just like, wow. This is so fun. This is so fun. Just finding this stuff. Just just to be able to find it. You know? Absolutely amazing. But, yeah, audio books, I have the books announced trying to figure out which ones that I can't find one. You have to pay for a lot of that stuff, and, you know, a good deal ain't a good deal unless you got the money for the deal. So no money, no deal. That's that's my solution to my money problems. No money, no problem. Right?
That's all that issue. Yeah. How to find the audiobooks? I don't know. That that that's an entirely different thing. I've I've just only downloaded either PDF or EPUB, the EPF. That's the only two I deal with. And, p usually PDF, but EPUB files are easier on the eyes, but they take up more space. They just anyway, so but, yeah, so I'm I'm looking it up right now. I'm looking up that fitting bible as we're as we're talking.
[02:29:06] Unknown:
Those glasses you have on are easy on the eyes too.
[02:29:14] Unknown:
You can see my glasses? Are you looking through my thing? Are are you hacked into my phone? Hi. No. I'm Are you sitting there at your house? Are your pictures right up on the screen here? It's got two of them. Oh, is it? Yeah. Those thing. Oh, yeah. Is that yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a that was a funny thing, and I've kept it as my, avatar online because it tells a story. I mean, the glasses you wear, those are my my they live glasses. My own person because they open up my eyes. The blood blood of Jesus. Love, you know, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The diamonds around it, god does promise us prosperity and favor.
And, you know, I'm gonna on the side of, that type of lifestyle instead of, oh, woe is me. I can't. I'm just nothing but a vagabond type mentality anymore. You know, I'm gonna go the whole opposite direction. Well, I guess you look at the world through rose colored glasses. That's it. That's it. Somebody one of my friends said, Urbie, I knew you was gonna get in touch with your inner Elton John. But yeah. I like it. I like it.
[02:30:30] Unknown:
Hey. Speaking of easy on the eyes, if you're reading from your cell phone a lot, I've discovered that if you go into your settings, your display settings, and switch to dark mode, it puts a dark background on the letters, and the letters become white. And it's just so much easier to read that. So just a little tip for people out there.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I did that a few years ago. I learned about that. And and, this phone I have, I mean, there's so much that can be done. My daughter, oldest daughter, she has it's not the but she shakes, you know, her hand shakes, and she can't, like, type. But you you can go in here on this phone and program it to where it does everything by voice. And she's got her phone set up to where she talks to her phone and makes it do everything. You know? And so she just holds her phone instead of trying to take her shaky hands and do stuff with it. And, yeah, it's and it's right here. It's already here. I don't know how to do it, but, I'm I'm holding an f 16 fighter jet in my hands with the keys, and yet I'm sitting around in a Amish buggy getting around. You know what I'm saying? I just kinda hook up the donkey to it and bring it down the highway.
But, yeah, it's this is amazing technology we have. This is just amazing stuff.
[02:31:56] Unknown:
What's amazing is how fast it finds information. No matter what you're looking for, I mean, in a split second, you have thousands of pages of information.
[02:32:09] Unknown:
I have a friend who is gotten into the AI aspect, and he's doing a lot of AI stuff. And we literally stayed up for a day and a half, and he's punching in AI. And he has AI making speeches for me or speeches for him or just different things he tells it what to do. And he said that it literally, within a nanosecond, spit this out. And he's just laughing hysterically because he said, Irby, it's you. And you could take this and use it as a that is you, you know, and your reflections. And and it's amazing. But I the machine, I'm not impressed with. I look at that and go, there's somebody smart behind that machine. I see the intelligent design behind the machine. You know? And I'm thinking, woah. Somebody was smart out there to make this do that. You know? And it's just it's amazing.
The people, the smart people behind us that make it happen. It's just amazing.
[02:33:11] Unknown:
Another thing that's amazing is I read years ago that, the technology the the average consumer purchases is already ten to fifteen years obsolete in terms of what the government is able to acquire. So the government always has technology that is at least a decade or more ahead of what we get.
[02:33:39] Unknown:
Update. I had a retired big time military guy locally right here. Now that he's retired, I used to work at a place when I was able to, a a pull behind trailer place. It's a pretty big outfit here. And so some old timers would come and, you know, top trailer to the farmers and just sit around. And so we'd chat. And this old guy, he's talking to me, and I find out he's local. He's retired. And he explains that he's retired military, high operations military, and now he's telling his wife and family what he really did and who he really was now that he's out of the game and so old that he don't care. You know? There's no repercussions. So he's an old, old man telling these stories, and he knows things.
And so back then, this was fifteen years ago. I'm asking him at the time about UFOs. And he smiled, and he's got a twinkle in his eye. And he said, well, Irving, there's still some things I can't tell, but here's what I can tell you, What you just said. He said, what you see that we have, the military is forty to sixty years ahead of what you think. And I went, ah, so it is our stuff. And he's just smiling and twinkling. And that phrase, he didn't say 40 to 50. He didn't say 50 to 60. He said 40 to sixty. And in my crazy research, I have found other people in that type of position saying the same thing. And they always use that forty to 60, which is odd to me. I mean, that you know, why didn't 40 to 50 or 50 to 60? That 20 gap. And other people, like, four other people I've heard say the same thing in the same type of interviews with the same type of people.
So whatever it is, they are way ahead of what we what we think. And what they are what they're feeding us, what we see is their model a's, and they're out there, you know, way ahead of that. So and I saw I saw a black and white military training film from the nineteen forties. I saw it, and I was studying it. And they were talking about back then the ability that the military had to plant thoughts into the enemy's brain through frequencies and technologies and machines to make the people kill each other or surrender or do stupid stuff back then. That they could shoot it over there and everybody's going, yay. Our military does this good stuff to the bad guys.
Not ever thinking that they could use it on us. But, yeah, all that stuff's out there, man. But our government would never do that to us. They'd never do that to us. They love us. They care for us. And like Clinton said, they feel our pain.
[02:36:27] Unknown:
I well, I try to, be more conservative in my figures. I I don't I've never heard the forty to sixty years ahead of of of ahead of the consumer in terms of what you just said. I've I've always heard the, the ten to twenty year range. But, the reason I I like to say, you know, about fifteen years ten to fifteen years is because now I'm I'm not a believer in the whole moon landing, but I did listen to this, this well credentialed, reputable scientist who used to believe in the moon landing until he started to debunk it as a hoax. And this guy was an older gentleman. He was he was like a professor type, very interesting person to listen to, and he got up in front of an audience. This was years ago, and it was on YouTube. I don't know if it's still on there, but he, he was explaining that the technology they had in 1969 was the equivalent of a Commodore sixty four computer.
And I I wanted to get a a Commodore sixty four computer when I was a kid, and those those came out, like, around in the late seventies. And I I had to settle for a Texas Instruments computer, And I started to write code and and create my own games because the big thing back then was, I forget what the basic operating system was, but you had to type everything by hand. And so they had all these computer publications come out and You had it. They would have they would have these games in these in these magazines, and they would be a couple of pages long of code that you had to type in. And if you got, like, one letter off it, the the the program wouldn't work correctly. And so you'd have to go back in there and scan over everything that you typed in to make sure every jot and tittle was correct. Like, if you if you put in a period instead of a comma, you know, that would throw off the program. It would still work, but there would be, like, it would crash or whatever.
And so that was the big thing with with my friends and myself. We would we would type in these, these programs. And, so I learned to do that on a Texas Instruments. And then I I bought this, tape recorder, and I had to purchase this modem line. And you would attach it to the, not a modem line, but it was, like a connection and you would attach it to your computer. And in order to save what you typed in, the comp you know, you the computer would go through all these, like, noises, kinda like the fax machine. And so the tape recorder with the old cassette tape was recording all of the noises that the that it was making in order to record it onto the tape.
And so whenever you wanted to go back and finish typing in that program, you'd have to get your cassette tape and put it in there and replay it. And then the computer would read all of that, all of those sounds and translate it from whatever that analog sound was back into, you know, the the the the computer program on the screen or in the on the hard drive. And then you could, you know, pick up where you left off and type some more, more of the, program in. And, you know, there are simple games kinda like I mean, they're very simple games. They weren't like the Atari twenty six hundred. I mean, that would have been considered advanced to what these computer magazine games were.
But, anyway, that kinda stuck with me because, you know, that's about when the the Commodore sixty four computers came out was about, you know, twelve years after the moon landing. And when that scientist, you know, engineer said that, that just made me think, you know, there's no way. I agree with him, which is not really the point of my story, but I agree with him that there's no way they could have sent a rocket ship to the moon based on a Commodore sixty four computer system. That's just ludicrous.
[02:40:45] Unknown:
You had the name of the programming language right. It was BASIC. That's what it was called. Oh, was it? Was it? Yeah. Yeah. It was called basic. And you said that there was this basic program that you had to put in there.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:41:03] Unknown:
And, the, the Texas Instruments t I ninety nine four a, I had one of those. It was a good machine. And there's the Commodore VIC 20 was the original computer, and then they did what they always do. They enhanced technology, and they upgraded to the Commodore sixty four. And then that's where we were kind of in that eighties, mid eighties, something like that. And then in the nineties came out the the, IBM fifty one fifty, which was the first IBM DOS based computer, disk operating system. This is what DOS stands for. And then Microsoft came out with MS DOS, which was more robust than IBM DOS. However, it it used the same kernel because I believe Microsoft stole it.
And then it just went on from there. The IBM fifty one fifty was an eight bit, eight bit, PC that had 64 k of memory, 64 k of RAM, And the basic machine came with one five and a quarter inch floppy drive and a green screen or an amber, monochrome monitor, and that baby was upwards of five grand just for something that was, for all intents and purposes, a glorified calculator. And we just kept going from there. It was it was fun. It was the eighty eighty six, which was the first eighty eighty six was the first processor, then eighty eighty eight, and then, eight zero two eighty six, eight zero three eighty six, eight zero four 80 six.
There was the Pentium one, then the Pentium two, then I believe no. No. They did have a Pentium three and a Pentium four. And then Intel went to do went to the Core two Duo, Pentium architecture. And now there's quad cores, eight core, 16 core. All kinds of fun shit. Paul Paul is flexing, y'all. He's flexing. Yeah. Yo, bro. Gus just a little bit. Well, I figured from him. Well, come come on. I figured Larry talked for fifteen minutes straight. I've got it. I mean, I gotta keep it kinda even. You know?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
Did you used to do that too? Type in those computer magazine programs?
[02:43:52] Unknown:
Oh, hell. Yeah. I well, I wrote them from scratch. I, I had one program that I wrote that was called the digital date book, and, it had a data file. Well, I also had a menu. I had a menu program, so people that that knew nothing about DOS and writing on the command line, they could put a menu in their computer, and then it would just launch all their programs from their hard drive at the push of a button. But but what was really good was a program called Digital Datebook. And, the reason I wrote that is because I had a, wife who really had difficulty with that time of the month. I mean, her hormones went absolutely bananas.
So I I wrote a date book program so I could remind myself of, like, important dates, like, you know, my kids' birthdays and, my parents' birthdays, my anniversary. Oh my god. You never forget that. But then it also had, a sequence of days events where I could tell it to remind me of something, every twenty eight days, you know, and give it a starting point, and then it would just naturally extrapolate all of the the future reminders from there. But then because, you know, sometimes you need advance notice of things that were going on, I wrote into it the number of days advance notice, and you could customize the messages. You know, five days to the shit hitting the fan, four days to the rag is coming.
Three days to have you ordered flowers yet. Two days to have you considered chocolate. One day to tomorrow, you better not even come home. And it was to that and it that happened every twenty eight days because I didn't wanna be anywhere near the house when the wife was was, going through her struggles. Let's call them struggles. And and and then another another program that actually got, I think, the program got killed because the cowriter of the program, I think, got killed. It was called The Winning Effort, and it was written in basic, compiled as an executable, and it was a horse handicapping program.
And 80% of the time, it could pick the top three horses in any race. All you do is you put in the put in the historic stats for the horses and, what, whether they're on Lasix or Butte, whether they have blinders, what the track condition is on race day, all that. You just put in all of the horses, for each race, and the program would store the horses and all of their recent stats in the database. So if if the horse ran in another race, then you could put in the name, and it would say found, winning effort in, in the database.
Would you like to use the stored information or enter new? So you could enter the new information or you could bring in the old information and then you could update that. Well, 80% of the time, it would pick the top three horses. All three. So if you did a box bet, you could make money on it. And the thing was itty bitty and teeny weeny, and you could, take, like, any old crap laptop with you. Just sit right in the stands and read the racing form and put in the numbers. Well, the cowriter of that program I did the I did the technical back end. He did the the extensive, racing knowledge.
Cowriter disappeared, and I don't know what happened to him. Either he is no longer on this, as Paul English would say, mortal coil, or he, made his money, he moved, and he changed his name. But he he was he went off the radar, and I have no idea what happened to him. But I still have a copy of that program. Shh. Don't tell anyone. Anyway, that's all I got.
[02:48:40] Unknown:
I'm I'm sitting here washing dishes. I hope it don't and I'm smiling and laughing, and it this is great. This is and I have a friend who is a professional handicapper, and he makes big bucks. He's he's really into that.
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. The the name of the program was called the winning effort. And when you ran it, it had to call a post that it would play.
[02:49:09] Unknown:
That's amazing to me. I I remember when the I remember I was working at a place and the boss had bought one of those new computers when he had a whiz kid, cousin, nephew or something who came with all of those books. I mean, you know, you came with a whole batch of books of all that DOS and all that. And he's sitting there for two or three days typing into this computer. Okay. Now, boss, you'll be able to use your computer, you know, to to order your stuff, to do your payroll, and it was just amazing to me. And,
[02:49:39] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:49:41] Unknown:
I actually have complete versions of those books. And, yeah, you're absolutely right. There is, like, three volumes, and each book was, like, two inches thick.
[02:49:53] Unknown:
And,
[02:49:56] Unknown:
every computer came with a set of books. One book for the operating system, one book for, the basic programming language. Well, I think some of them even had COBOL. It would would deliver the machines with a COBOL manual and, compiler disk. It was loads of fun. It was great fun that then or back in those days. At a computer store. It wasn't a store. I wanted to open a store, but I basically had a consulting firm, and it was called Concept Information Systems. And my phone number was, (612) 825-3282, which spelled out 825 And I used to advertise on KSTP channel five, and those were the days. You know? Those were the days.
And now I do this. Go figure. Not that I'm bragging or anything. I'm just giving you guys little a little history and background of where I came from before I stumbled on the radio range.
[02:51:19] Unknown:
Do do you have there's a, YouTube channel that I hung out with last night. I thought it was you, but I guess it wasn't. It's a channel called Internet kill the TV.
[02:51:33] Unknown:
Are you familiar with that?
[02:51:36] Unknown:
I believe that's WDRN productions channel.
[02:51:42] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I I I I have that bookmark because they had put out there some Roger Sales information and I think even some of your interviews, so I didn't know know about that. And they were live last night, and I thought it was you. And I just got on there and was, you know, just listening and talking, and, it it didn't sound like you, but then I listened and it wasn't him because somebody else is calling him different name. Or or or if you guys have different alias. You're you're underground, and and I'm not gonna expose who you went by. But yeah. Mostly.
[02:52:17] Unknown:
Oh, here's something really interesting that I actually didn't share during the show, but because we're still live, I can do it. Check this out. There is a language test in Arkansas for, commercial drivers. Check this out.
[02:52:40] Unknown:
Couldn't believe it. Going through Arkansas I thought it was a joke. Got stopped at the weigh station in Arkansas, and it was handed a piece of paper. And it says, can you read and write English? I said, yes, sir. I sure can. He goes, can you read this? So I read it to myself, and I was like, okay. I started handing it back. He goes, no. No. No. Read it out loud for me. So I read it out loud for him and, you know, it was short and sweet. No problem. He goes, now, can you write, you know, write this for me on this paper? And I did and there there was a whole bunch of people that had already written on it. And I was actually witnessing people in handcuffs that had been pulled in.
And I was like, what's going on? He goes, oh, we've, come across now that if you cannot read or write in English, that it's a $55,000 fine. And if you have a company in Arkansas that employs people that can't read or write in English, it's a $10,000 fine paid on the spot. If you cannot pay it, you're automatically arrested and lose your license. What a shocker.
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Interesting.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
Bro, that's pure tyranny. I don't care. I'm gonna go and hold my applause on Trump and Kennedy and all the supposedly good guy white hats doing their stuff. But that the worst evils of mankind have been done under quote, unquote, good godly government leaders. That's when the evil really comes out.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
Well, here's does that apply to?
[02:54:35] Unknown:
CDL drivers. That would be if you're a national? No. It it wouldn't apply to nationals, but then you would have the whole fight. You would have to educate them that I'm not a What I'm not a fourteenth amendment citizen.
[02:54:52] Unknown:
What crime is there in not being able to read or write?
[02:54:57] Unknown:
What does it matter? It's an administrative rule. But because you have a CDL, you're and you're in a trunk. Not a signatory to that. No. But if you if you Some truck. If you have a CDL and you're in a truck, you are operating under the authority of that CDL. So you're operating under the under the authority of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. What's that in
[02:55:29] Unknown:
go ahead. When I was in Greyhound School, we had a teacher. He was a Trailways driver. He said, I can't read and I can't write, but I can drive a bus.
[02:55:43] Unknown:
Right. So how are you supposed to be able to read, the names of towns, road signs, emergency messages. People
[02:55:57] Unknown:
illiterate people are pretty freaking smart.
[02:56:00] Unknown:
Well, I think this is aimed at foreign drivers, like, South Of The border, and they come in and they're doing all kind of stuff that's not safe or legal. And when they're stopped, then they're often got alcohol on their breath and can't speak English and aren't in compliance with anything. And, anyway so I I don't see it as a bad thing in that way, but yet it's tyranny, but we've asked for it.
[02:56:25] Unknown:
However Oh, but those laws don't or those rules don't apply to them because they aren't in their jurisdiction.
[02:56:34] Unknown:
Right. However
[02:56:38] Unknown:
But if they have a license from here, they would be.
[02:56:45] Unknown:
Well, some of them, they just have a Mexican license.
[02:56:52] Unknown:
Well, you know, they're gonna have fun enforcing it anyway. It'll make them shake a little bit and think about being drunk and driving like an idiot.
[02:57:00] Unknown:
Well, yeah, they are gonna have trouble enforcing it, but stupid people are gonna let them get away with it. I mean, I see violations of the fifth amendment to the constitution against self self incrimination. I see that all day long just in that one little video.
[02:57:20] Unknown:
The ratification of the constitution was a violation of the constitution itself, period.
[02:57:28] Unknown:
And the constitution was illegal at the time and a
[02:57:32] Unknown:
fraud. Mhmm.
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Hey, Paul?
[02:57:36] Unknown:
Yeah?
[02:57:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Larry.
[02:57:39] Unknown:
So You're not going to Arkansas. These these
[02:57:44] Unknown:
these laws they're enforcing that there's a requirement to speak English if you're driving a commercial vehicle. They were already in place long ago. They're just enforcing them now. If you look up CFR paragraph three nine one point one one b two, that's from 2016. This requirement was well, it's not that was from 2016, but in 2016, this requirement was outlined in that particular code or regulation I just gave. There was a period where inspectors were directed not to place drivers out of service for violations of these English language proficiency requirements, but this policy was rescinded.
The White House has confirmed that the requirement to read English is now being enforced enforced. So there's a lot of people coming down on Trump, but these these requirements were already there in federal law. It's about time.
[02:58:45] Unknown:
I'm coming down on Arkansas. That's who I'm coming out coming down on. Because Arkansas completely screwed, Sherry. And I'll come down on Alabama because Mike Nail had the the same experience. And I'm coming down on New Jersey because if they could have gotten a word in edgewise, they would have done exactly the same thing to Joe Lusticka.
[02:59:13] Unknown:
Comment.
[02:59:15] Unknown:
Yeah, Joe.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
Don't you think that these enforcements that they're doing on the reading and language issue is one means they're using a deportation, the illegals that have come here. You know, the the judiciary has thrown such stumbling blocks in the way of, should I say, legitimate deportation. They're kind of I shouldn't say grasping at straws, but they're using every means possible to expedite some of these deportations. And you know there's a lot of them, and there's a lot of the commercial drivers. You get on Interstate 35, and there's a lot of those commercial drivers can't even read English, much less speak it.
[03:00:12] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:00:14] Unknown:
And that is a that is a public health hazard.
[03:00:19] Unknown:
Right.
[03:00:20] Unknown:
And I don't care what color y'all.
[03:00:24] Unknown:
You don't care what?
[03:00:25] Unknown:
I don't care what color you are or where you came from. You know, it had yeah. No. If you can't read, you can't well, I shouldn't say now, but you used to not be able to get even a, operator's driver's license if you couldn't read.
[03:00:43] Unknown:
Right.
[03:00:44] Unknown:
How do you read the the the signage?
[03:00:48] Unknown:
Well, they, they let that ship sail when, they started allowing translators when people are doing the written tests.
[03:01:00] Unknown:
That's how you get full employment is you give everybody a job. It's time people go to work.
[03:01:19] Unknown:
Well, I do believe
[03:01:21] Unknown:
let's see. Is that for economic productivity?
[03:01:29] Unknown:
Well, actually, yeah, 5 or 5 or $10,000 fine. Yeah. That'd that'd fill the coffers pretty quickly, especially in the Southeast. Important to,
[03:01:41] Unknown:
Paul, do you know why it's important to be able to read and drive a commercial vehicle? Because a lot of times, the drivers are transporting what's known as hazardous materials. And a lot of these hazardous materials cannot be mixed because if you're to get in an accident and, like, say, water got on one particular hazardous material class, it can cause an explosion instantly. And if these drivers are not able to read and they're at their shippers getting loaded and they have some other hazardous item on their their vehicle, there's a potential for great harm with, the motoring public out there.
And so they gotta be able to read the the paperwork and find out, you know, the description and what these what these materials are.
[03:02:35] Unknown:
In the testing, you can find out whether they know their stuff or not. You know? They have to read the test. So they're gonna be able to read the paperwork and everything if they can read that test and pass it. Unless
[03:02:53] Unknown:
the state unless the state testing facility allows translators, during the written test. They do allow that. Minnesota does. I don't know if they do it anymore, but it it makes perfect sense that if this person is supposed to be able to read and write English, You could verify that they can read and write English by refusing them a translator and just letting them read the test. If they fail the test, they failed the damn test. Hello? Learn the language.
[03:03:32] Unknown:
Hey. You're gonna have a translator riding with you in your truck telling you what the road signs say?
[03:03:38] Unknown:
Exactly. If the translator is not gonna be riding shotgun, then, there shouldn't be a translator in the testing facility. I'm sorry, Brent. Go ahead.
[03:03:50] Unknown:
Well, during the test, if you don't have a translator and they fail the test, then they don't have to pay a fine, and they don't have to go to jail.
[03:03:59] Unknown:
Right. Simple. And they don't get to securitize and they don't get to find them. They don't get to steal all their stuff. They don't get to impound the truck, and they don't get to securitize their incarceration. Wow. That's why they don't wanna stop them before they get behind the wheel. They want them to kill somebody first.
[03:04:24] Unknown:
So to go along with what I just said, I think the main concern is the hazmat materials that's being transported. They have to be able to read the paperwork. That hazmat test is given every four years, and it's a requirement under federal law. If you have a commercial driver's license, you have to go down to the DMV and have that renewed and you hit it's like 60 questions, and you have to be able to pass that. And you only you're only allowed to take that test so many times, and then I guess you gotta wait or something like that. I've always passed my test every time, you know? But Yeah. I think that's where the concern is. Not necessarily reading a stop sign or yield sign or whatever.
[03:05:09] Unknown:
Right.
[03:05:10] Unknown:
I would say that do not enter one way is pretty damned important.
[03:05:19] Unknown:
Right.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
And if they can't read that, they have no I don't care if you're foreigner or domestic. You have no business on the road if you can't read it.
[03:05:33] Unknown:
Back in '82 when I got back from Japan, it was, like, two weeks after I got back, I ended up riding on the wrong side of the road.
[03:05:51] Unknown:
I saw a truck I saw a truck going the wrong way in the center median in, on I 80 in Pennsylvania, and he did exactly the same thing. And the problem with Pennsylvania, you know, going up over snowshoe and stuff, Mhmm. It could be 10 miles between exits. But if you're going the wrong way, you better be really good at backing up.
[03:06:22] Unknown:
Oh, I had gotten on, the wrong side of well, not in the wrong side of the freeway, but the frontage road or whatever. And I quickly corrected myself.
[03:06:34] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Right. But Well, if you slide your, if you slide your tandems all the way up and you, crank your cab just to the point where the, the rubber on the, airfoil on the back of the cab is just about ready to touch the trailer, You can do a one eighty on a two lane with two shoulders. It will work because I have had to do it. There was an accident, and they closed the road. And the cops were, directing us to turn around and go back the other way. Are you telling us you can't read, Paul? I can read.
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Just tasing, jamming.
[03:07:31] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. I can read. I can dance too, but not very well. Just saying. Had to drill a hole in my cigarette. I will. Alright. Well, we've talked about all kinds of fun things on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, and I think it's about time to take the take the, stream down
[03:08:08] Unknown:
because Oh, can I do one thing before you do? I since it's still up and I have the links in the chats for the Fenton Bible. If you go to Yandex, y a n d e x, then you'll find about everything you wanna know there. And, when right when Brent was talking about audio version, I was looking at a site called Librivox, l I b r I v o x. And so I sent that to him, but, it and it's in like I said in both chats, this information, but there's there's lots of sources for PDFs and, you know, free PDFs and audio and stuff. So I yield. Thank you. Okay. And you put that,
[03:08:48] Unknown:
yep. Librivox, l e b r I v 0 x, Club. Cool.
[03:08:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. Dot club. Great.
[03:08:58] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:09:00] Unknown:
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[00:01:53] Unknown:
Good morning to you, and, we would too, Alvin. Thank you. Try trying again, take another swing at, at a little freedom for some folks here on the fourteenth. It appears of May. It's a Wednesday, and, Roger Sale is your host here at the Radio Ranch. And we always, wanna get our friends out of the way here. Not out of the way. We wanna give them recognition properly at the start of the show for helping us extend our reach. How many of our amigos do we have? Our campaneros do we have with us, today there, Paul?
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We have a full complement today. Of campaneros. Yes. We have a full complement of campaneros. We're, of course, on radiosoapbox.com and one zero six point nine w b o u f m in Chicago. They will be joining us for the first hour from eleven to noon. And we're also on other net family of broadcast services through WDRN production, Port Collins, Colorado. That is homenetwork.TV, freedom nation TV, go live TV, and stream life.tube. We're on our flagship station. Thanks to pastor Eli James. That, of course, is eurofolkradio.com. That's where it all began. That's where it all started, folks.
And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com where you will find the links to join us live on the show using free conference call. You can call by landline, by smartphone, by tablet or computer. Come on down. We've got plenty of room. Morning, Raj. It's hump day. Morning, Paul. It's, it is, miraculous.
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You're correct. And, boy, there's some stuff happening. I, when I went to lunch yesterday, of course, I did not seen any of the video of the trip, over to the other part of the world there there, because the show and then I'd get up and run out, you know, and I got to, peruse some of that last night as I'm sure many of you did. Wow. I'm just, wow, to see, to see Trump do the end run on this sign, this thing, which many of us have been concerned about, with him. And I think he's shown that, well, at least on the surface, it it sure looks legitimate that maybe there's a recognition there of the bestiality of these people, if you will.
I I thought the, speech to the gathered dignitaries there in Saudi was extremely impressive. I'm just pretty pleased with the way everything's going, and, I know some people still don't believe all that. They wanna, come up with different theories of what's going on, but it sure appears to me that, he has, like I said, drawn the line in the sand, if you will. And it's damned encouraging, actually. So it's spinning. The world's spinning, and, we're we're gonna see. I thought the what I saw of that speech did you happen to see that, Paul? No. No. I didn't. Well, it's it really is impressive. Okay?
It's pure Trump up in front of all of the other people who have been the object of our negative political, efforts for so many years because of this little bastard Satan sandbox bunch and them being in control and controlling everything. I don't know of another well, I let me tell you this story. If you've never heard this before, maybe this is a proper comparison, and we mentioned it, I think, yesterday, and I believe it was Joe that came up and informed me the guys who was Landon, I believe, was the vice president to Harry Truman. And as they were getting in '48, all the Israel, stuff together for the statehood crap,
[00:06:06] Unknown:
Somebody's moving somewhere around. Yeah. And I I stand corrected on that, Roger. I I was wrong. Andy looked it up, and I can't say the name, but it wasn't out.
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Okay. Well, anyway
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in there someplace, though.
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He wasn't vice president. I'm sorry. Well, no problem. No problem. It's, whoever the vice president was, somebody might could search that up real quick. Not that it's terribly important or necessary information. Anyway, he wrote an autobiography, and he was vice president for Truman. And in his autobiography, he related this story of this meeting, around the formation of the state of Israel or Israel or Satan's sandbox as I prefer to call it. And, Truman turned to whoever the VP was, and he said, Jesus Christ couldn't satisfy him two thousand years ago. What do you expect me to do? Okay. So he fell fell right in. You know? Well, Trump is, is not taking that approach.
Now whether it's show business or there's something hidden underneath deep under the layers, we don't know. But at this point, from the other things that have come out, namely the and I heard this as I was leaving walk out the door yesterday. Netanyahu in Hebrew or in Yiddish Yiddish, whatever the hell he speaks over there, announced that they're gonna have to start getting their military armaments somewhere else. In Hebrew, it was, translated with, some, you know, Glock or Block or some AI or something. Anyway, those are the statements that Netanyahu is making. A letter similar to the one that was signed against the laptop, the Biden laptop by the 50 CIA and intelligence people. Well, they got a letter to Trump over there signed by over 550 dignitaries in Israel, including the ex head of the Mossad and the ex head of Shinbat and all kinds of other evidently dignitaries and retired military officers, and they're writing to Trump and saying, do not work with this guy.
Okay? So it looks like a very genuine split to me. And, hell, it's about damn time. About damn time.
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You're right. Jack? Yeah. Yes. Yes, Paul. The VP to Truman was Alben William Barkley.
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And Barkley. Yeah. Barclays is the one that they wanted to run for president. Boy, I didn't know that, Paul. Thank you. It was '49 to '53. This guy. Oh, okay. He, he was a guy they really want to run for president. Barclays, at some point, was highly respected in the senate evidently and to the point where he decided to leave the senate and all the senators wrote him a letter and signed them urging him to come back and he did. Yeah. And then evidently got tapped with this VP thing with, with Truman. He's the one that was the head of they used to evidently in the senate have a ways and means committee. That's where you generate all the funding and stuff. And and I know the house has one and is the originator of all spending bills is the house. But evidently, for this period of time, Barclay was the head of the senate ways and means committee, and he's the one that John and Glenn found this quote. And he said, every year every year we bring the folks over from treasury, and we try and impress upon them that we wanna simplify and shorten the internal revenue code.
And every year, they come back from treasury with something that only Solomon and all of his wise men could interpret. I go back to Woodrow Wilson's statement about the China loan. Why was the reason he wouldn't endorse it? The tax system was antiquated and burdensome and enforced by foreign agents. And here's Barclay. He didn't say the foreign agent thing, but covers the rest of it pretty good. Well, I didn't know that. Thank you, Paul. Barkley was evidently a a heck of a senator.
[00:10:22] Unknown:
Yeah. He he was, Albert William Barkley. He's the thirty fifth vice president of The United States serving from '49 to '53 under president Harry s Truman. In nineteen o five, he was elected to local offices, and in 1912 as a US representative. He was, born 1877 in Graves County, Kentucky. Died 1956 at 78 years old in Lexington, Virginia. He was a Democrat and a senator for the state of Kentucky from '55 to '56.
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Okay. Well, he he was a a heck of a guy, and, and and I didn't know that. And I think that he that that he would even put that in his autobiography is probably very indicative of him, the kind of person he was. So, anyway, we got this whole Israel issue. It's been a big deal for a long time. They've had total control and still do to some extent of our congress at least. And so, evidently, what yet Netanyahu is gonna do is he's just gonna obliterate Gaza. Okay. You won't work with me? I'm just gonna take the thing that really bugs you and just murder all these people. So you can expect to see that coming. And, they're they're they're just about in civil war in Israel over over Netanyahu and all this.
So it's gonna be very interesting. I did notice, and I was gonna mention a minute ago, the biggest applause of the confab yesterday, if you did see it. And, Paul, you ought to go get some excerpts out. It's pretty impressive. Okay? Whole room full of these very important Arabs from all over the Middle East. And, he was talking about he's gonna go visit Syria. Well, they broke into a five minute extended ovation. Wow. So, supposedly, that's the last guy that was the head of ISIS or or one of these terror groups. Hell, I can't keep them all damn straight. But see what's happening is Trump is getting to go over there and meet with some of these people, and there is no Israeli contingent with him.
So whatever the Israelis have been telling us and him about all these different countries over there, evidently, Trump's gonna go meet with them personally.
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So he's gonna find out for himself.
[00:12:55] Unknown:
Well, a a god, I hope so. It appears that he has been enlightened as to the snakes and what they do and how they operate. And let's just hope that keeps getting reinforced, Paul. That's my hope. That might be my prayer here, when I later on in the evening. So, anyway, that's pretty interesting stuff. That's what I caught yesterday. There's a lot of that on everywhere, of course. Justifiably so, his first, trip as, this this this time around. And I I'm I just I'm just very impressed with Trump. Okay? He may be fooling me. I don't know. I don't think so. But, anyway, I know that in my lifetime, especially my political awareness lifetime of the last thirty something years, I've never seen anything like this.
K? All I've seen is them bulldozed people. Now they are gonna show you, and one of their statements was in one of their newspapers over there, I think, Paul, as well, we'll we'll see how just get these things through the through the senate. So they're kinda waiving their control of the, Congress. And, that is being exemplified to some extent by Thune, the, senator from North or South Dakota. I forgot which one. That was a Republican leader in the house and now the, Mike Johnson. And they're both trying to put down some of these real positive initiatives that are coming back as the Republican leadership showing that, of course, the Israelis have control there. So we'll see, but it's gonna also because these things, I can't remember right off the top of my head the issues that they're against, but there's some of the initiatives that Trump's trying to push through. And, I'll tell you, the more the Jews do this, the more they get exposed. It's the same old thing. They're in up to their eyeballs now. They're getting exposed.
Then they have to fight back and wriggle and do all their crap that they always do, like this influencing them to stop these senate issues, which are very positive for Americans, and then they expose themselves more. Mhmm. And then they they react, and and then they expose themselves more. And they react again, and they expose themselves more. This is the snake eating the tail, and, boy, it couldn't it couldn't come quick enough for me. I hate you bastards. I wanna expose you. You won't touch me, though, will you? You'll get all over Stu Peters and put Stu Peters up over all the all over the senate where everybody knows his name in the house. You won't touch me, will you? You won't touch me slaving pieces of crap. Don't worry. We're gonna catch you, and we're gonna expose your sorry asses.
May not be today may not be tomorrow, but at some point in the future, that's gonna happen because this is the truth. You can't do anything but stand mute, and you're totally convicted when it happens. And we're free simultaneously, and we're coming for you. You tell them you well, you you you what was it? You tell them Tell them Roger sent you. Tell them you tell them Willie boy's coming.
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Yes. Another thing about, senator Barkley. On December '4, he declared his candace candidacy for county attorney of McCracken County. I don't know if if Brent can shed any light on whether or not that makes him a McCracken. And that was well before the March 19, o five Democratic primary. In June, the nomination of Woodrow Wilson for president and adoption of a progressive platform at the 1912 DNC bolstered Barclays candidacy. Dawes assigned him to a special committee to investigate the campaign expenditures of the leading candidates in the upcoming presidential
[00:16:57] Unknown:
election. They're all doing that back then, weren't they? Yep. Nothing new under the sun. Anyway, Bart is a guy. Quite a figure. He's quite a guy. Evidently, he's very, very popular and pretty good guy, sounds like, from the best you can tell. So, anyway, this whole Israel thing is gonna get more intense, I hope, and, as to their exposure. And, it it's just getting interesting, folks. It's getting interesting as it applies back to our congress and how they're gonna react to some of these things in the way that they usually do and continue to expose themselves. Please do it, you sorry bastards.
Please do it. Please continue. You know, what did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy when he's in the process of making a mistake, something like that. They're they're getting exposed. They're freaking out. It's all over evidently from what I hear social media, especially TikTok and that. And, it's just gonna continue to grow. And you're gonna continue to squirm and try and assert because you're being exposed. And the more you do that, the more you're gonna be exposed. And at some point, we're coming for you. Yeah. I'm I'm not for your deeds. K? I'm not exactly sure. I'm not including Paul in this, but I there's a bunch of people that are gonna be coming for you. And they may hunt you with big dogs, which would be fantastic.
Yeah. Because deep down, they're nothing but chicken ship high in transits, these people. That's why they always gotta have somebody else do their dirty work. Why they, sit over there is just like Jesus said in your your whitewashed sepulchres and you're so much better than everybody else and all the stuff he said about them is exactly true of these creeps today. Exactly. Same thing. So, anyway, I feel better. How about you, Paul?
[00:19:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I was I was gonna say something, but I lost it. I mean, please, I'm begging them. Please
[00:19:11] Unknown:
demonize me. Demonize me. I want I'm begging you to demonize me. I hate your effing guts. Put me on your hate list, number one with a bullet, please. Because I just literally despise you. Who you are, if we even know who you are, what you do, how you do it, how you carry yourself, and how you do your business. And I hate every one of them. Every one of those aspects of you bastards. Well, so no. Okay. Anybody ever say that I didn't come out here and point my finger at these bastards, and they won't touch me or us or this with a 10 foot pole.
[00:19:56] Unknown:
Yeah. But still, the even though they deserve it, hating them is not good for you because God hates them. I can tear them too. You down.
[00:20:09] Unknown:
Doesn't tear me down inspires me. God hates them publicly. I can hate them too, Paul.
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Alright.
[00:20:17] Unknown:
Okay. And we discussed that issue a while back, and that hate means hate. Hate is no mistranslation. K? So, anyway, there's some fine Jews out there, and I don't wanna cast aspersions on them. The problem is this little sect. And, and the problem is that as they start getting attacked, even some of the Orthodox people feed over. Okay? So, unfortunately, you can't help but change and paint with a broad brush. Okay? Because they're the ones that are reacting. Now we got great folks like our buddy, Dan, who's Jewish and comes on here with us and talks about this stuff and agrees with us and brother Kapner and, Fisher. What about Fisher? You know about Fisher. Right? The chess player? Paul? Mhmm. Bobby. Bobby Fisher?
Yeah. You know about him?
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No what?
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He's a Jew. He's absolutely paints these people up one side and down the other and calls them out and says what they are. That's why they never mentioned his name anywhere.
[00:21:24] Unknown:
Right. Yeah.
[00:21:27] Unknown:
Well, the So their day is coming. Their day is coming.
[00:21:31] Unknown:
They say they're from the thirteenth tribe. As far as I know, there wasn't 13
[00:21:36] Unknown:
tribes. Well, that's well, that's why they're saying that because that's the Khazars. Yeah.
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And the only
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the only That's Well, hold on. Let's bring this all together for the audience who may not know or have any background in this. Khazar and Khazaria, where what is that land today?
[00:21:58] Unknown:
Turkey. Ukraine. Ukraine.
[00:22:01] Unknown:
Ukraine. Oh, there you go. This is what the whole Ukraine thing's about. They had they already had 30,000 Jews in the Ukraine. They were trying to move up and set up Ukraine as Israel Greater Israel in Europe. They had 30,000 of these settlers up there already armed and in settlements of some sort. And as the Ukraine war started, guess what? They flew them all back to Israel because they're not gonna fight and die in the Goy war. That's only to kill Christians and mongrels.
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K?
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So the
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that
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excuse me, Bart. That's the thirteenth tribe is the Khazadarias. That's why they want Ukraine so damn bad again.
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Mhmm. Amen?
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Yes. Please. Please.
[00:22:50] Unknown:
Actually, old Stalingrad was dead center in the area.
[00:22:56] Unknown:
Okay. So Stalingrad would be Saint Petersburg now. Right?
[00:23:01] Unknown:
No. No. That's, Northwest Russia. This is, east of, Ukraine Ukraine.
[00:23:11] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I sure thought that Stalingrad had been renamed to Saint Petersburg. I may be wrong. K? Anyway, it was that part of the world, and this is go ahead.
[00:23:21] Unknown:
It's it's, Volga. It's named after the Volga River over there. Yep.
[00:23:27] Unknown:
Yes. Because that's where they built their kingdom around that transportation of those major rivers. It was the Christians and the trade routes by the by the Islamicists that they would charge 10% of the value of the trade caravan. And if they didn't give them 10%, they'd just fight you and kill you and take all of them. And that's centered their their their kingdom centered around those transportation hubs, Volga, obviously, being one of them.
[00:23:55] Unknown:
That was the original protection money.
[00:23:59] Unknown:
No. That's just, you know, same old stuff. They had a the the king and these are really hateful people, and the king was afraid that the kingdom was getting, out of control because they didn't have any religion. And so he didn't want to convert Christianity, and he didn't wanna convert to Islam because that means they'd have to give them concessions on their trade caravans. They had an adviser in his court who was a Sephardic Jew, and they converted the whole kingdom to Judaism. These are the Khazarians. These are if you hear the word Ashkenazi, these are the Ashkenazis.
This is the primero primarily about 96% of the Jews in the world are Ashkenazi. And this is why they hate Russia so much because this was that area of Ukraine. It was also referred to as the Pale, and that's where Jews were congregated and put into. And as the Rus', their ancient enemies, the Russians now, came down from the North and broke that kingdom up, and all of those people went into Western Europe, and they're all your international bankers. The these are the connections and the background and the history behind all this.
K? And I imagine there's probably people in the audience that don't know this. K? I've I've been studying it for over thirty years. K? And, I know these folks pretty well. Alright? Pretty well. I know how they've enslaved the whole world and put themselves on high on on big hills and big castles simply off of, you know, what put them up there, Paul, is the sweat of our backs As they used our sweat and our labor to build their anthill, and they took five, six layers of compound interest straight off the top of the monetary system on top of whatever else they could steal in Wall Street, bond market, etcetera, etcetera, because they're just thieves. They're just freaking thieves.
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Whatever wasn't nailed down.
[00:26:17] Unknown:
So anyway, I'll get a little little of that off my chest. Please, if you're new, you know, I mean, the only thing I'm doing is pointing out what we've been able to prove, and they validated, is that they're, history's greatest slavers. They've just come up with a whole new little scam, a cute few little turns, a few little deceptions, a little trickery. And, they turned everything around over a period of time to get you to volunteer and agree with your servitude. And as Bertrand Russell said, most of them like it. Said they'll love their servitude.
Most of them love their servitude until the screw starts getting turned. Then then the love stops. Right? Till the IRS comes to the door, then the love stops.
[00:27:07] Unknown:
Yes. Well, these are the guys that have been thrown out of over a hundred countries a thousand times.
[00:27:14] Unknown:
More than a thousand times. I've seen over 1,100. I've seen a list of over 1,100 countries they've been thrown out of. And it's all because those people were such severe antisemites,
[00:27:24] Unknown:
wasn't it, Paul? No. Oh, yeah. Well Of course. Yeah. Is the term anti antisemite. The term anti Semites applies to them.
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I know. I know. It's another fabricated BS.
[00:27:37] Unknown:
Because because they're Shemites. So antisemitism They're would be against them. But hello, Palestine. They're they're they're the semis.
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They're they're they're Esau. Edom. These people are Esau. Edom. And the big picture, if you're new, of what's going on here is Esau Edom has stolen and tricked us into giving the birthright back. It had to be done with fraud. They can't do it legitimately. It's voluntary servitude. Take it back. Mhmm. They tricked you into giving them your power. Take it back. They can't say anything. People don't believe that. They think these people are all powerful and all omnipotent. They're not. K? They're not. It's all on a turn of fraud, about three or four layers more or more of fraud. And when you present them with that in the proper way, they've got to recognize it.
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Oh, it's just a piece of paper.
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No. It's a little more than a piece of paper, whoever dumb crap people that make that comment right there. K? So is the constitution. It's pretty one well, run a run a country for a couple of hundred years.
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A piece of hemp paper.
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It's a piece of, hell, it's a piece of hemp paper. That's what it is. What I said. Written on hemp paper.
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Yep.
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It was written on hemp paper. That's killer weed, and is that killer weed again?
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Well well, hemp is the nonpsychoactive, red headed stepchild of cannabis. So there is it
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it only has And and and God gave you cannabinoid receptors in your body. Yeah. There are receptors in your body to receive what comes from that plant.
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There's only two sources God did it. Of cannabidiols, and that is cannabis and a, rare chocolate,
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like in Yeah. K. Well, hell, we probably got that down here in Ecuador.
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Probably.
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That's the only two No. You have to watch out. You have to watch out when you're, like, dating down here in Ecuador. You know why, Paul? Why is that? Because Lorena Bobbitt was Ecuadorian.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. So you gotta be careful.
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I have a I have a couple of quick, but a quick yet stupid bible jokes. One was radio. Yeah. You you might be, you know, into this. When was radio first mentioned in the bible?
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Oh, shit. You said broadcaster seeds seeds?
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No. When God took a rib from Adam and made a loudspeaker. Do you know when the mafia was first mentioned in the Bible?
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Okay. I don't, Paul. I'm gonna need to venture a guess.
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Okay. Well well, when baby Jesus was in the manger, he was visited by three wise guys.
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Yeah. Okay. Okay. He's right. I told you they were stupid. Visit notice they didn't come to visit Mary. They came to visit Jesus.
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Right.
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Mary wasn't in the stars. Jesus was. Yeah. See, I told you they were stupid. Set things straight. Well, that's what I used to, that's what I used to tell my dates, Paul. I'd say, I gave you a rib, and I'm gonna collect.
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Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Oh. Love your okay. Well, I'm I feel Those are tattoos. Thing I could do. I got to, I got to ventilate a little bit on There you go. Just one of the subjects that drives me is these people. They they really they really make their own worst enemies. They're their own worst enemies. Because of the way they do things, they make their own worst enemies. And once they make an enemy this is what Jesus said. Once you make a prophet light, he's 10 times the devil you are or something to that effect. Well, let me tell you what. When you make an enemy bow, 20 times they hate you worse than you hate them. And they don't forget, and they ain't going away because you've ruined their life or made some kind of an impact on them where they're dedicated to, coming after you in some way, shape, or form. Well, I see. Of this keep coming, and your worst fears are gonna be materialized because their worst fears and their only fear. They got plenty of money. They got plenty influence. They can put themselves behind big big deep walls and and into all kinds of gated underground communities.
Mhmm. But they can't stop the word spreading, and they're scared of us even when we don't know this information with numbers. When we get numbers with this information, this is where this falls on your back, listener, right now of helping to spread this message and increase our ranks. We get numbers of educated people on this. I mean, shit. They may start jumping out of Wall Street again.
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Yeah. Well Or. Well, that's our own fault. I I got one comment, and then we're gonna let Mark go. These guys are narcissistic, and they do the attack retreat. They have reduced attack and retreat to an art form, which is why they have been able to make, negative advances toward a population. They get thrown out, and then they beg back into the good graces of that population. That's why they've been thrown out many numerous times. Of course. People I mean, they play on the fact that people are inherently good and compassionate, and they feed on that.
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Absolutely. That's why I say, well, see, we don't even know them. You know, Sun Tzu, know your enemy. K? Know yourself. Know your enemy. If you don't, you can't win any battle. Well, we don't know them for the most part. We're learning. That's the big thing is they're getting exposed. But for the most part, we don't, but we're learning. Okay? But they damn sure know us, and they've been studying us for thousands of years. And the example is when they wrote that fourteenth amendment, they knew that a hundred years later, they were gonna ask you, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Because that's incorporated in the law as to what you are, and that means you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They knew that when they passed that thing in the eighteen sixties. I guarantee you. If not, they wouldn't already been all over Schofield and setting up the whole dispensationalism thing, which is a whole bunch of what these current events are now because many of these people that are fooled are fooled by their damn pastors.
And the fact that they've taken over this whole World Council of Churches. And if you don't believe me, look at the the illegal migrants. Who is there? The the the Lutheran NGO, the Catholic NGO, the Jewish NGO, all the World Council of Churches, were the the ones who assisted in all this. They know us like the back of their hands. We are just starting to learn about them, and, and it terrifies them. Morning, Mark.
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Morning, Roger.
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I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous this morning.
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Oh, that's okay. I'll I'm just gonna I'm gonna tie right in there with you on that. Happened to stumble across a video late last night that, it was like they've been listening to our show.
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Oh yeah. Well they do. I'm sure they do. But could you get your, whatever you do with your phone and get it where it's a little better?
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Okay.
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Is it, is it clipping or is it just not loud? No, it's not clipping. You just sound a little bit distant rather than right up on top of the microphone. We can hear you. Got the mic. And it's okay. Okay. Well, that's the best you can do. Well, not maybe a little, not much, but that's okay. Go ahead.
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Okay. Paul, can you hear me?
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Yeah. We hear you.
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Okay. I don't know what's going on. I I just, rebooted everything this morning. It should be fresh and ready to go. I got a lapel mic on, so I don't know why it's, lower than normal.
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But Well, it's because it's down on your lapel, not right in front of your mouth, I'm sure. Well But that's okay. We can hear microphone. We can hear that's a lavalier, I think. We we can hear you. It's just you're not right on top of the mic, but that's okay. You know, I'm a Alright. I'm a little bit of fastidious about this. So I understand. I understand. But,
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anyway, there was a attorney, John Eastman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess he he served in in Trump's cabinet or was one of his attorneys. But Yes. He was on a One American News on Rumble, they have a show called Fine Point. I don't remember who the name of the host was. But, John Eastman and another general were on there, and they're part of this birthright citizenship fight that's, I believe, before the Supreme Court. And they submitted amicus briefs, and they were going over the fine points of that. And I tell you, it it sounded just like they've been listening to your show for a couple years.
They brought up Allegiance to a Country. They brought up Wong Kim Ark. I mean, you just go down the line, and and they were basically saying everything that you've been saying for, well, how many years now? Over thirteen, fifteen years? Fourteen.
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Fourteen going on fifteen.
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So I'm trying to find that video. And in in in Doonsa, I found that John Eastman is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Yes. And he's got an article that he put out, and I'm I'm just trying again, I'm trying to find some resources for us. And check this out. This is from 03/30/2006. And the title of his article is from feudalism to consent, rethinking birthright citizenship.
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There you go. Eastman is a constitutional attorney. He was the head of some small colleges law, department, and he's the guy they're desperately trying to debar out there and have been for a couple of years. This part.
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Now I put the link to that article. It doesn't seem to be very long. I don't know. Maybe three pages, maybe four pages. It's hard to say. It's something that's on a website. But I put the link to that article over in the chat, the free conference call chat, and I'm going to also put it over into the 2radioranch.chitango.com. Okay. Thank you. I believe interested in that.
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I believe they're gonna argue and hear that case this week up there.
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Mark, seems like somebody should I don't know when the the, arguments are gonna be presented.
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I think it's this week because of the, importance of this issue and the bearing of everything. Now when the decision will come out is a different story, but they may expedite it.
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Right. Right.
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Now now I was just gonna say the opposite is happening on, the the headlines on Drudge or the, MAGA MAGA heavyweights weigh in against Drudge. So who are the MAGA heavyweights? Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and two other Jews. Mark Levin, I have been saying for years that he's Sean Hannity's Mossad handler. K? Now don't forget, I know Sean. I know Sean personally. K? Knew him pretty well back in Atlanta, in the old days. He knew all this stuff. There's his sister and her friends in California were all into all this stuff and had been telling him it for years when I sat down and started talking to him about it. K? And then he goes to New York.
And, you know, does anybody if you remember, I've told this before, you know the reason for Sean's meteoric success? Do you have any idea? No. Rush's brother was his agent. And so I was friends with him in Atlanta then when they were first, trying to catapult him up there. And what they do is they'd fly him up to New York for the weekend and stick him on some obscure cable show and and check the audience, reaction to him. And after he passed a few of those and got over those hurdles, then they moved him up there. And the first thing he did was, was on ABC, the radio flagship station up there in a afternoon show.
And then they put him on. Remember Hannity and Combs? Yes. With the Liberal Combs? And, so it was in that period of time, and I was home one one day on a Sunday. Phone rings, and it's Sean. And I went, Sean, wow. Well, you ought to be off with your family today. She says, no, man. Roger, I'm working harder than than I've ever worked. I'm in the office office doing show prep. And and then Levin came on to his show after that, and and started he started pumping him up. And I said as I heard him turn, I saw him turn from the discussions we used to have to the way he was handling things up there at ABC. Wow. And I said, that's, this guy Levent's his his massage handler.
Well, look what have you seen Levent last couple of days from his show last weekend? Oh, he's all over Trump. Yeah. Israel, why are you getting rolling? You're going with these terrorists instead of your best ally and all the all the usual crap. You know? And, so there it is. The the MAGA heavyweights are four Jewish commentators.
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Well, unfortunately, they have brainwashed the Christians into this, in my opinion, pretty much worshiping Israel.
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Yeah. They have. And
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and, it it's it's kinda really sad to see that and all the billions of dollars that The United States gives to Israel. And then they got these they got these pastors who are shilling for more money for the, you know, for, underprivileged, Jews. So
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it's it's John Hagee. But you see, and this is what one of the things that allowed me to make that connection in my thesis here is that the civil war was fought to get these things into into place so they could control the world through the dollar with them a hundred years later. K? And the thing that really buttresses that is at the same time, they were cultivating Scofield to go into the Scofield Bible and create dispensationalism where they could fool the majority of Christians with this Israel shit. Wow. This has been in the making a long time.
They had this projected out over a hundred and fifty years ago.
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Wow.
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Until you get in and really understand some of the intricacies here, you can't draw that conclusion. I mean, even I had never drawn it until about a year and a half ago, and it hit me one day like a sledgehammer. Yeah. So, anyway, I believe they've been planning this to the best of their ability for at least a hundred and fifty years.
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Oh, you know, it goes further back than that. I mean, it's it's it's a forever strategy that they have mapped out. They got think tanks that have war gamed this all out.
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Yep. You know,
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you most are I'm sure if anybody's you know, like our listeners, they're well informed. They're very enlightened and they want to think that they're smarter than the average bear. And we probably are. But there are some very brilliant people. You know, you don't realize your level of intelligence till you get around people that just think on a different level altogether. Yes. Yes. You know? And, I one of those, is, glaringly observant or clear, excuse me, glaringly clear was a TV show called The Blacklist with James Spader. And he is like a mastermind criminal that has networks all over the world.
And you you see that the thinking's on a whole different level. It's it's just insane.
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Well, and that's, you know, what happens when the average person comes and stumbles into us, they get that same effect. And the reason for it is because what we do is undo what they've done by using generalities and then alternatively specificity. So now that we understand all that and we train you to think specific on this is person, this is that, this is that, will people step into this and they go, holy smokes. It's way over their head. They've never thought specifically like that. And they're starting to undo that and understand the techniques that's been used on them, and it sharpens your thinking. It can't help but sharpen your thinking.
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Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And, you know, and and everybody has their moment of awakening after they have been exposed to your message. And some people are are for whatever reason, I I think it may be a, a God thing that they're being drawn to that message. And they once they hear it, they're intrigued and they can't help but listen to more. And somewhere down the road, they have their moment. And, and some of those, it's it's quicker. I think for me was about two weeks. Usually, it's about two months for me to if it's something like totally new information, and it takes about two weeks for me to just like, oh, yeah. This is or excuse me, two months to say, oh, yeah. This is real or, oh my gosh. This is a bunch of junk. Sometimes it's a lot quicker when it's junk. Right?
But in your you know, once I listen to you on your show for two weeks, I'm like, oh, this guy's on to something. And then when you explained the feudal system, that was the missing piece for me.
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And for everybody. That made total.
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It locked it it locked it totally in. I'm like, if you don't understand that we're in a feudal system that's voluntary, you'll never get any of this.
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Well, it's just like Glenn says, if you don't if you don't know you're dealing with the feudal system, you'll never do anything but shadow box with it. Isn't that what the rest of the patriot community is doing? Shadow boxing with it, aren't they?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And people come commentators go, well, this is neo feudal. They're moving us into the feudal system. Hey, buddy. You've been in it not only since birth, but every time they ask you, you answered yes. Are you in it? Are you a voluntary serve? Yep. Sure am. Where do I sign?
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What was, interesting on that, interview last night, there was another attorney by the name of Alex Haberbusch, and he was talking about, the passport application and how in 1966 it unexpectedly changed to where it didn't have the questions about the, parents and I think there was like where they were born. In other words, there was quite a quite a lengthy lengthy question there section about the parents and their birth, citizenship. And they took that completely out, and it appears like that's kinda like when the the, Anchor Baby thing started where if you were just born on the soil, that you're automatically a US citizen.
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That's what Eastman said. Eastman said in his research, and somebody asked him when was that. And he said, I have the sixties or the fifties, best I can best I can, figure out. But they were moving. You when you when you shift this and look at it on that timeline and you see what these events have set up and caused, you can see exactly what's happening right here.
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Right. Well, think about this, Roger. What was going on in the sixties?
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Of most of the civil rule. Good lord, man. It was that was my time. I was that's my high school, college years. Yeah. And I can tell you firsthand what was going on back then, and it was crazy. Okay? I mean, all of a sudden, this is free love stuff and Woodstock and, and drugs and all the rock music and all the social engineering that came out of Tavistock Institute. And if you look back, if there's one thing, Mark, let me ask you this question. If you could look back and identify one thing that set up all these massive changes, what do you think it would have been?
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All these massive changes. I really don't know. Birth
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birth control pill.
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Yeah. Well, I was gonna say the sixties was a social revolution.
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Yes. And and also no fault divorce out of California, another real big one to tear up the family.
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Yeah. And, there's actually some states are looking at revisiting that and maybe changing that. But we had a big social revolution during the sixties and communism took a big step forward through our whole society and government. So these people that coming up through these social communistic, colleges and universities, That's why these parents go, I sent my Christian kid off to a college that's supposed to be well respected and then come back a radical liberal.
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I don't even recognize it. But take over the universities.
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This is the long game. Yeah. This is the long game. So, you know, this all appeared to start in the sixties. And, I don't know if it was Easton Eastman or Haberbush was talking about that, change in the passport application that there was no explanation for the way they changed it. There was no rules or regulations that have been changed. Just somehow it it was changed.
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And it revolved around the parents you where your parents were born?
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Yes. Yes.
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Yep. Well, that's the setup. As I was telling, I had a I had a consultation with a guy at Arkansas the other day who was really, worrying himself over this passport application. And he referenced the fact that you've got another outfit. We've talked about it on here before, copper moonshine still. And, I I've never looked into it real deeply. I know he helps people go through the passport form. I know, he's got some great sites on there, site that I'd never seen before. But but the main thing is is he instructs his people to answer those questions no. Now that is directly lying on a passport application.
Yeah. They take that really seriously. I can give you an example. K? Now why haven't they come back on any of the copper moonshine still people? Because that telling them didn't say no is absolutely a lie. They're lying. K? Right. And, the only reason that, to me, that they don't come after them and charge them with that is they don't wanna bring light to all this. They don't even want the issue brought up. K? And they'll let them slide. Now, Mark, have you heard the story that happened just when I started doing this about fourteen years ago? Have you heard me tell that story about the guy in Florida? I don't think you have. If you if that if you hesitate, you hadn't.
He was a retired army guy. He used to be at Guantanamo. And earlier in his life, he had sent in a passport application that was unsigned. He went to fill it out, and I don't know. You know, it says stop. Do not sign unless for d s 11 in front of an administrating official. So somehow he sent it in, but he sent it in unsigned, I think. But he sent it in anyway. K? So years later, he goes to apply for another one. And this time, he was doing it more correctly, and there's a question on there says, have you ever applied for a passport before? And he clicked no.
And he had been in jail for about four or five months in Florida for passport fraud already, and he was writing a letter to the Florida senator to get him out, which he eventually did. But as an example, that's how seriously they considered the fact that he sent in an unsigned passport application, which he couldn't have sent in or signed because there was no administrating official, and they still nailed him with that passport fraud. So my statement, I think, is very justified. You probably search that case up. They take passport fraud very seriously. That's why I tell all you that you say, woah. Where are all the tricks in the passport application?
The only trick is if you don't get instructed properly to answer all the questions true truthfully and then put and to include the affidavit. That's the trick, is to not include the affidavit. We teach our people to overcome that. They can't say anything about it. What do we know? We know from the inside the passport office, the guy that Dave outside of Orlando contacted that called me back said, oh, we're getting so many of these that they're having special classes for the employees on how to process them correctly. Well, that tells me they're doing the right thing.
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Wow. K?
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Yep. But don't lie on a passport application. You're begging for problems if you do.
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It's just not necessary. Truthful,
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there's no problem. As long as you're truthful, there's no problem.
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K? Don't lie. There's no need to to lie on it. Yeah. Nope.
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You're trying to get out of lies, not not procure them.
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Right.
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That's very true. So Very true. So, Mark, let me see here. Do you unless you got something else to add. Well, we're pretty close to the top of the hour in the break here. Paul's gonna have to come on and quit chasing the cat with the wand and come back and give the Chicago folks and the other folks over there their bye byes. Sure. You got anything there? Yeah. Yes. Who's this?
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Hey, Roger. This is this this is William.
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Hey, William. Boy, you sound good today. How you doing? Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger. It's Lee. Oh, good. Good. Good.
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I just wanted to add, you know, I don't know if Mark heard the other day that the earliest that I could find in, citizen slash national statement in the passport book was 1980.
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Well, I just it this passport application, the reason it's so important is because of what it is and what it does and the fact that they've got to take your input. They've got to let you know somehow that you've got this option, which they hide very well. They've gotta put that in there. There's no other federal form to my knowledge where that is a requirement.
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Yeah. It seems like every several years, they change the passport book and and the way it looks and some of the verbiage in it. And, up until 1980, it had a different, declaratory statement in there about, you know, letting letting this this, individual pass and providing aid and all that. But, then citizen slash national. Yeah. It didn't show up until 1980.
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Interesting. Well, we've got you. We got you, you little slimy bastards, you slavers. We got you cold. Ain't nothing you can do about it. You can change all you want. We got your game plan now. We're gonna confront you with it, and you can't do anything about it but stay on mute. Or you can't even hardly come up with some lame excuse, can you? Because we got you so solid and so cold. It's one of the, absolutely, one of the joys of my life is to discover this and be able to teach you folks about it and spread the word against these enemies that have ruled Earth and terrorized Earth and made life miserable for so many because of their convoluted, sick thoughts and religion. Okay?
I'm talking about the Talmud and that dirty book that ought to be every copy on the face of the earth ought to be destroyed. K? It's the filthiest book that's ever been pinned. It's caused more damage or killed more people, caused more pain and suffering than, to my knowledge, any other book ever penned. So let's see. We're gonna hear the whistler in just a second, and Paul's gonna come out and and and very nicely tell these listeners that we're about to depart from bye bye. And the fact that they can join us on the other side and hear more of this type of conversation, if it's something that blows your dress up, then you found the right place.
K? There's something if this information hits the right person, it creates a relationship and a curiosity that you couldn't turn people away. You may not understand it. It may be confusing to you, but you know there's something of great substance here. And boy is there. Okay, Paul. Your turn. Oh, Paul.
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Uh-huh. I've gotta turn my microphone on. Maybe that would be helpful. That was Thanks for joining us, radiosoapbox.com and one zero six point nine w b o u f m, the pulse of Chicago. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com. It is the matrixd0cs.com, and just click on either the Eurofolk radio or the Global Voice Radio link. Thank you.
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Yeah. Thanks a lot. We'll see, if you don't come in back half, we'll see you tomorrow, hopefully. Have a great day. Okay. Back to William. William, what do you have anything else to weigh in on here? I think that's very important information. Did
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No. I I I didn't have anything else.
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Okay. Well, thank you. You sound real good. Mark, what what else you got to bring forward? We'll just get this second hour start, or should we just open it up to the audience to see if anybody's got any questions or comments?
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I'd say open it up unless you got something that you need time.
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Well, no. I don't know that I do. I can probably conjure something up, but, I I I really wish we had some other folks in the audience and have this conversational thing on especially questions and whatnot. We can clarify things instead of what I wanna teach on, something that there's a need to teach on. So if there's anybody in the audience and they're you're shy and you you've been lurking, you've been scared to talk to us, we we don't bite. We're right here. All you have to do is hit star six. And anybody else has got questions or comments, you know, it's always welcome. We like this format. It's a conversational format. But if you guys aren't speaking up and either given a little bit of a subject matter, commentary or asking some questions, then, it's not conversational as much then, is it? And that's what we like. So if you would hit star six, we'd love to hear from you. Any of you?
Yeah. I got a question. Okay. Good. There's somebody right there. Well, who who are we?
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I'm Kyle from Michigan.
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Hello, Kyle.
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Hello, sir. And I was just wondering if you could point me in the direction of driving in the private with Joe Lustica because you mentioned last week, I believe, that there's a process about getting a private plate and a whole new number for that. And I'm Yes. Correct. I've been looking for information regarding it, and I can't find it either. Okay. Well, here's what you do. You go over to rumble.comfront/joelustica,
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spell his name out, no space. And he's got a number of videos over there, and one of them is on this DOT thing. Now what Joe found, being a very diligent researcher, Joe Lustica, he found on the Department of Transportation website, and he shows you how to go through it, where you can register your car as a private conveyance. They will issue you a number. Then should you desire, you could could go to one of these places that makes a custom license tag and put your new DOT number on there. Okay. K? So I can I can point you that and answer you that, and we've got people that are doing that? And they don't should you get pulled over now, all these judice or these police officers aren't gonna know all this stuff. So don't argue with them.
That's not any place to to deal with one of these issues on the side of the road with a less than 100 IQ police officer. But, but that's the way you do that tag thing. K?
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Let me let me add to that. When you go to Rumble, Kyle, when you go to Rumble and you look for Jole Lustica, spell his name out in all one word. J o e, l as in Larry, u, s as in Sam, t as in tango, I, c as in Charlie, a as in apple. Yeah. Joe Lustica, one word. If you wanna go straight to his Rumble channel, it's rumble.comforwardslash, that's the slash that leans to the right, user, user, another forward slash, and then joe lustka, all one word. And that will take you directly to his rebel channel. So, Yeah. Anyway, he's got a lot of lot of information out there about driving versus traveling and so forth.
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Joe is one of the more appreciate that. Joe is one of the more astute researchers, honestly, that I've come across in all my years in this movement. Okay? Very impressed with him and his results and just tickled to death. I don't know if y'all know the way we found Joe. Do you know that, Mark? No. I don't think I ever heard that story. Well, Kaye and her husband, Paul, out were early listeners fourteen years ago. They were out in California. Kaye had, gotten up in the housing 02/2008 scam and tried to defend her house and her position in court not knowing anything. Yeah. Of course, they bounced her around like a basketball.
And, so they that's how why they were out looking and found me. Okay? And, so then they had a daughter that had a baby, a little grandchild, and they went back to Connecticut to go help with the grandchild. So we didn't hear from Kaye for a long time, seven years, eight years, something like that. And then she pops back up in Connecticut, and she's all this is right at the start of COVID. And now she's all hell bent for leather to start filing stuff. Get these I wanna put this she's very aggressive, Kaye is, actually. Actually. And, so the grandson evidently was old enough and wanted to learn how to play guitar, and they found a guitar teacher, and it was Joe.
And Joe and Kaye start talking, and she's the one that pointed him over here. So, god bless you, Kaye. And, Joe's been a great asset to the program. He's not with us all the time because he's busy. He's got a young family and, guitar teacher and stuff, but he's very good at this legal research stuff. Amazingly so. K? Yeah. So, anyway, Kyle, what else? What else can we do you for today? Kyle, go off message. Okay. But Yeah. I was just muted. That that was about it. I just wanted to some clarification on that. So thank you. Okay. Alright. Well, if you have any problems with that, come back to us. But I think you can find everything there. He he I believe the instruction on how to do everything. Now one of the things in there, he said he set up a foreign trust or something, and I'm not sure you need to do that.
But, anyway, you should find that video very instructive for anybody in the audience that might wanna do this. It's an area that, you know, I'm not gonna tell you not to do it, Kyle, but I'm gonna tell you to be very cautious as you step forward and go into this with your eyes open knowing that you may have to defend this at some point. K? So but I appreciate your guts. Planning to be auditing cops or anything, but I definitely plan to be exercising my rights. Okay. Well, I appreciate that attitude and and that that that way of moving forward. And, again, should you have problems or things you can't ascertain an answer to, here we are for you. K?
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Appreciate it.
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Yep. Okay, buddy. Well, be careful. I feel like the guy on was it Hill Street Blues? Be careful out there.
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Yeah.
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It's all we need to do. That's it. So who else? See, Kyle is, Kyle's broken the ice now. The shy people see that we don't bite or anything or yell at you. And so you what what questions do you have, folks in the audience? I know there's gotta be some. Come on. Nobody wants to talk to us? Gosh. We're such nice people. I mean, we really try and be nice here.
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Yeah. As long as you have all the reasons that.
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That's right. We got all the reason in the world to be nice here.
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Okay? But but we do we do love the guys that actually come to the program and speak up and talk
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and and share with Yeah. Because that you're why we're here. I I just don't get up every morning to get up earlier than I'd like and stay on the air for two hours. I'm here out of duty, and I'm here for you. So, please, if, if you're stumbled into this or whatever, avail yourself of me. I'm here for you. I'm giving you you you couldn't find an attorney on the face of this damn earth that can give you the information I can give you and back it up. You couldn't find one. Hello, Bob? If you did, you'd be $1,500 or more an hour. Yes, sir. Who's that?
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Jerry Garcia in Carlsbad,
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New Mexico.
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I got my Hey, Jerry. Export book yesterday.
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Congratulations.
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I also applied for the card
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that I I don't know if you have the most Well, they don't do them at they don't do them at the same place. The card comes from another source. So just be patient. I'll wager you that it comes up. Did they cash your check?
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Yes, sir.
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You'll get it.
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Be patient. On that passport book, does that letter p always come up on it?
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I don't I I don't I don't know what the designations or any of that are, honestly.
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Okay.
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You'll have more luck, I think, when you get the card of going over and seeing if you got an 0 9 because we've got a list on the website of those of those kind of numerical notifications they put on those cards. O nine seems to be the one we're looking for would be desirable, but it doesn't have to be because we've gotten back a number that says, yeah. That's they say that's American Samoa, but the other nationals are hidden under it. We've had one that came back with 77, and it said the guy was an ambassador at large. And we've had one that came back another number, which was when another designation internally.
So it doesn't have to be o nine. It's other places that they could hide it because those other like an ambassador at large, that you'd have the same limitations and protections, I would think. So, anyway, the just here's the map bottom line, Jerry. Quit fretting about what's on the document. And if you really wanna know, go do a privacy request on your file with the state department, and then they'll send you. And what really matters is what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, not what the passport says. As the eighteen thirty something case, we've got Ubututu v DRC. Yep. It's on the website, and it says it's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary that should be considered the higher and better evidence in a court of law. So it doesn't matter what the passport says. It matters that you've got that affidavit in the possession of the secretary.
K? Hey, Roger. Now if you And that really wanna make hold let me just let me emphasize this to the jury again. If you really wanna make sure that that's there, you do a privacy request on your account to the secretary of state, and they'll send you that back. And to our knowledge, everyone that's ever done one of those came back and the affidavit was in the package. Now, Mark, I'm sorry to step on you, buddy. Yeah. We no. That's okay. I'm stepping on you. In your privacy act, you can go after your documents
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that were filed with your passport application. And, you need to be specific. Just don't ask for all documents. Try to be specific. Or if you know, you know, when you send your affidavit in initially, you're gonna ask for a copy of that as well. But I just wanna point out, it doesn't really matter what's on your passport. Your passport is what they call prima facie evidence, which means just on the face of the document, it looks like it's a certain way. But that can be challenged. And what I was gonna bring up on that, I think you pronounce it Oratik Tatiki? Oratik versus d apostrophe r c, Darcy, d r c. I'll say it correctly.
On that case, the court went further on to say that the passport is not evidence of your citizenship.
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Yep. So It says specifically the passport is an ex parte document. And if it is a matter of citizenship, it's whatever paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, if admissible in a court of law, should be considered the higher and better evidence. Now that's almost 200 years old law.
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200 years old. It's still good law. And plus, if you have a copy of your affidavit that you originally sent in, which you should, then that is the higher and best evidence. And nobody can rebut that. Nobody can say that you're not a Nashua.
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Nope. Nobody has a choice. To do that. Yeah. If they are telling you that, they're a tyrant. Like this magistrate judge in Irondale, Alabama. She is a she she is an absolute tyrant.
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Well, we've had, we've had some pushback on some of the passport applications, and they'll try to come back. And I think, you know well, some of them, they just really believe that if you're born in The United States, and let me say it differently. If you're born in one of the 50 states, that you're a US citizen.
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Yeah. Right?
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And so what we always came back with, Roger, and it's been successful, is if you're telling me that I have no choice but to be a US citizen, then that is violation of the thirteenth Amendment against involuntary servitude. And Right. When we point that out that they could could be in violation of the thirteenth Amendment, their attitude changes immediately and they've always complied and come back with, with the documents that we need to get the passport.
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Let me insert something here that I just picked up watching Alex. You know, at one point in all this court stuff, the law fair he's been going through, they were trying to take his name and say that they owned his name. And Alex went in and claimed it was involuntary servitude under the thirteenth amendment. Did you get the answer to that? No. He doesn't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Well, because he's a US citizen.
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Correct. Right in front of him.
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Wow. I don't know how that could possibly be. But was that their argument, or was that the court's decision? Yes. They came back, said you don't have access to thirteenth amendment.
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He said it on the air. Did they get?
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So but that's why this what? Federal courts or state courts that No. This is state court Connecticut.
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I think Oh, well. And and Connecticut Supreme Court is the one that turned down his appeal in this case.
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I'd like to see why they said he didn't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
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Well, they, they I don't think they they, of course, didn't explain it. And if you queried them, they probably wouldn't explain it even though they might know why. Okay? Because they can't let that cat out of the bag. But yet in the proceedings and here Alex is, I can't get any of his people to listen to me, and here he is Yeah. Saying it right on his show. Well But you unless you know all this other stuff, you don't know what he's saying.
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Right. Right. What I, what I learned from one of my mentors, Richard Cornforth, is that generally speaking, a judge can just cannot just make a decision willy nilly without providing the findings of fact that the court came to and applying the law to those facts. This is the whole legal system is wrapped up around proving facts around a case and applying the law to those facts. That makes up your case. And the judge is supposed to be a unbiased trier of those facts Yep. And applying the law to those facts. And both sides are coming in from different aspects, and they're arguing different points of law that should be applied to those facts. That's really it in everything.
I mean, one day I was I was, you know, cranking out some kind of motion, you know, and I think I was explaining to somebody, and then it dawned on me. Almost every court document that you put into the record or that you file in a court case starts out with maybe a brief little introduction of what the case is kind of about. And then secondly, you hit it with a list of chronological events that led up to the point of filing the lawsuit. And then you explain how the law should be applied to that to those facts. That's your case.
And in in any kind of motion, you you kinda do similar. You're you're saying here are the facts, and here's the law that supports a, typically, like, a motion for default judgment or motion for summary judgment where you never go to trial. And probably well over 80% of the cases are are, won through either default judgment or summary judgment. But let's go back to this. A judge is not supposed to just, you know, rule for one party or the other. They're supposed to provide you findings of the fact from that case and apply the law to that case, the proper law to that case.
Now in some states, if the if the judge doesn't do that, then any order they issued is void on its face, And you can challenge it. Wow. And I've seen some states that the judge didn't have to do that. You can follow-up for what I would call a motion for findings of fact and conclusions of law. That's the phrase. And now the judge in most instances is given up to thirty days to provide that. Now check this out. If you ask for that, that's that's kind of a post judgment request. If you ask for that and you appeal and the judge never gave that, I've seen appellate courts tell the lower court judge to provide their findings of fact and conclusions of law.
So it's a very powerful tool.
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Go ahead. Have you is is straw man have a baby or something? I keep hearing a baby in the background. That's not me. Is it Paul? Is he petting his cat or what?
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No. That's my my grandson.
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It's Jerry. Oh, hey, Jesse. Oh, it's Jerry. Okay. Okay, Jerry. That's Jerry. Mark,
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on that, so can I use that do I use that passport book or that card on that revocation of election?
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I don't need either one of them. You just you just on a revocation of election, you just need your your identity. You put in your your name, your address, your social the last four of your Social Security number. Use the address that you normally have been using to file your income taxes. And if there's a real question, you can always, take your your passport card and and copy it to the page that you're bailing in. But on the revocation of election Hold on, Jerry. On the revocation of election, it's notarized. The the thirteenth page, revocation of election is notarized.
Now you can change that to declaration and skip the notarization part. I don't believe it needs to be notarized. I don't even like the 13 pager because it's a memorandum of law explaining why you have a right to be a national. And, and then most people that had that 13 page revocation of election from Wise Paris, they paid like $1,500 for that thing. Well, I can't just give you a one page revocation of election, which is what I've been sharing with our our tax clients. I can't, you know, can't charge them $1,500 for one a document get that can be done in one page.
You know what I'm saying? So I just went through that 13 page and looked at the necessary elements then and it's it goes like this. Here's here's the revocation of election. Here's what I'm doing. And here's in the law that says I can do it. That's it. And you can put that on one page. But you can look through that 13 page revocation of election, select those two items out. I'm telling you what I'm doing. I'm telling you what authorizes me to do it and that's done. You sign it, seal it, send it in. And I I don't have our tax clients, notarize it.
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Also, it's instructive to mention. You know, Joe Lustica met a gal that was one of their reps, Paris a wife's Paris. Even though Okay. Even though he's dead. You know? She's still helping people. Do you know they didn't know anything about the affidavit and the change of status? She didn't. Yeah. They've still had some success with it ever dealing.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's voluntary to to, you know, pay that tax To to excuse me. To participate in that tax system is voluntary voluntary. Absolutely.
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Sure. They want your money. And it happens with
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and it happens with the very first tax return that you filed in your life. You opted in with your filing of your first tax return, and they have means of revoking your election to participate in the in the federal tax system.
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Mhmm. You know when those first started showing up, Mark? No. World War two, they would send it out as a victory tax. And once you'd volunteered in, you just continued to be sent the forms. Yeah. And it was supposed to have been Even though supposed to The IRS was not formed then. That was ten years before the IRS was formed. Have you ever seen that Treasury Order 51, Mark? That's if I remember right, that's where they internally formed the IRS and separated it from BATF. Treasury order, I believe it's 51 in 1951.
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No. I I haven't looked that stuff up. I tell you, Roger, once I found your, you know, your information care about that anymore, do you? Don't care. Doesn't matter. You know, all I need is that first paragraph Well in 26 t f r one dot one dash one and a. We're done. And we're done.
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Yeah. Well, for me, I learned all this stuff before I found the answer, so that's the difference. I and I've learned nothing out of my memory yet.
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Yeah. I learned a bunch of stuff. Rummel. Heard that name, but I don't recall what it was. Rummel. The famous Bids Bidsley.
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Bidsley. We got since we go to the store, Beardsley Rummell will go down in history as the guy that figured out taking of withholdings. Not that after the end of the year, you gotta file. We'll take the money out during the year, and then you have to file to get it back. Yeah. Yeah. And then we get you in filing, and now you're we know you're a serf. And if you and your wife file jointly, guess what? She is too.
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Yep. Yep. So Yep. Yeah. And It's a it detangles the web page that opens here. And you put all your children down there with their social security numbers and now they're tracking everybody.
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Yep. There you go. Or what about this? And after five zero one c three churches, when you tithe because it's tax deductible, they know who all the Christians are.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Back I'm trying to think when it I think it was under under Clinton. They were going after churches, and it would become a big deal because the IRS was bragging that they could go back through the churches under five zero one c three. And if they wanted, they could ask for a list of their parishioners. So Parishioners. About that time when I started
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go ahead. I got a thought, though, when you're finished. Go ahead. Okay. About that time is when I said,
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I I kinda looked at my my, ties, and I did my tax return that year with and without that deduction, and it was only, like, $200 difference. So I was like, well, you know, it's not like you can take a % of your tithing and charitable gifts off your tax record. It's a percentage of it. Right? Mhmm. So Mhmm. On mine, it only now this is back in the, what what did I say, nineties? It was the, early nineties. And so I it was only a $200 difference in my taxes. And I said, I don't care. And from that point on, I contributed anonymously with cash.
Comment. Yeah. That's how I did it. Uh-huh. And I, you know, I said, like, well, I'm not gonna open the door up to where I can be inspected with the microscope financially. So Alright. Anyway, go ahead, Robert.
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Well, Paul just wanted to say something. I had a couple of things I don't wanna forget. Paul, is yours short or long? Are you taking us in another direction or what? No. Mine is short, and it has to do with this. How stupid how stupid does the general public have to believe have to be
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for them to be told, oh, well, you better buy this before the end of the year. Otherwise, you won't be able to write it off. They're actually telling people, spend money to save 20%. Give me a break. Yeah. Yeah.
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How stupid. Response. Mhmm. I don't have one response to that, Paul. Hold on. You can do that. I don't have one response to that, Paul. Mine is short too, but I don't brag about it. I'm talking about my attention span. I'm talking about my attention span. Don't Yeah. Okay. Your mind's out of the gutter.
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We took that right off.
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No. We did we we didn't go there. You went there.
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Get your mind out of the gutter. Go ahead, Roger. Roger laughing. Alright. Doesn't this have I heard Julie laugh. Julie Julie Julie got a kick out of that. Doesn't this have remember in the early days, there was a church in Indianapolis that tried to go back and revoke their five zero one c three, and they ended up losing the whole church? I don't remember that whole thing, but I'll bet somebody in the audience does. Do you remember that, Mark? I don't know about losing the whole church, but I know Bob Jones University who
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sold lots of, college, Christian college books and so
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forth. Correct. And a
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lot of different materials. They decided it was worth giving up their their non tax status. And so years ago, they got out of their five zero one(three). But what's silly about that is if you read the five zero one(three) application from the IRS, right in the like first or second paragraph says, if you're a church, you don't need to fill this out. You do not need to apply for a five zero one c three if you are a church.
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Right. And that's true.
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Again, you know, I can only go back and look at what Dan and Gail Meder did up in Ponca City. They had a church. They register it with the state for $50. They use that registration, opened up a a bank account. Right? Banking purposes only. And they never filed a tax return. They bought property. It was the name of the church. Now there's your mileage is going to vary on this because from county to county it's going to be different. But in where they were at, they purchased a school, a school building that was no longer being used.
And we all chipped in to buy that place. And they put it in the name of the church and it never had property tax on it. Now that was the school. It might have been considered an industrial or or a commercial property, so it may never raise the question. Now, in Midwest City, there's a place, It's a residential home, but out in the front, they got their church name. And I know they're they're probably not paying property taxes because they've got it listed as a church. So, I, you know, that's that's this is what I've been trying to tell people that have been trying to get out of property taxes is look at what is exempt in in your county for property taxes and see if you can fit your property under any one of those classifications.
If you can, then that's the way to get out of property tax.
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Now a five zero one c three church is incorporated where the other churches you're talking about are not necessarily.
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They could be. They're just or not mostly. Okay. Yeah. There's a five zero one c one a that's supposed to be for faith based organizations. But, again, you're registering that with the with the IRS. Right. Now according to Weiss I think Weiss Paris. No. I I'm trying to think who it is. There's another organization that they claim that that you don't have to file a tax return if you're a five zero one c one a.
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I believe that's five zero eight c one a. Fifth based organization.
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That's correct. That's correct. 508.
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Hi. Hey, guys. Yes? That church that church you were talking about, brother, it was Indianapolis Baptist Temple, and Right. It was doctor Greg Dixon.
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That's right. I remember that now. They did close the church down, didn't they? Or the IRS seized it or somebody wanted the land that's very valuable land or something.
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Yeah. Yeah. He was right. Nixon's right. He he was all but they made an example out of him. That's right. Yeah. You know? And, he act he actually, was a professor of mine back in bible college, and we became friends over the years. He he he died an old guy, and he he was 87 years old. He died around 02/2020, but we kept in cuts over the years. And he eventually moved to Florida. But, yeah, the church is still going. But, yeah, they made an example out of it. You know, beware lest you try this.
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Yeah. Don't stand up against us. We're powerful. You're just a peon. That kind of deal. It's the reason people are so terrified.
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Right. Go ahead. There's a create there's a creationist professor. I forgot his name. It's not Ken Ham, but, somebody else, and he's got, a tourist attraction. They made an example out of him too and put him in jail. And he was in jail, but he's out now, but he still has his, creation teaching ministry that he does. And he always tells people. He says, I have never failed to pay any due taxes.
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Yeah. Any constitutional
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law. Any any legal tax which darn up. You know what I'm saying? He's saying the right thing, and he frames it in a way. So he he that's what he says. But he went to jail. And and what So they do What what what uh-huh.
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What's your name?
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This is Irby.
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Oh, Irby. Okay. We hadn't talked to you in a while. Okay. Yeah. Got you now. A blessing. It's always a blessing. Counts are blessing, man. That's one of them. Oh, man. Listen. Greg got you to something that we're real short on and need to be real long on. It's a it's a wonderful emotion. K? And,
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yeah, he saw us. He was a good pain. He was a good man.
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Dixon. Well, I just remember all that hubbub. I re I remember all that hubbub about it. And if I'm not right, it seems like underneath the whole thing was the church was on a real valuable piece of real estate. Is that right?
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Well, they didn't raise the church or anything. I don't know how all the legal, but the church is still there. You know, it's still operational. I imagine that they had to do the five zero one c three status and stuff. But, yeah, it was My bad. It was a big deal. It was a big deal. Uh-huh. And and part of that five zero one c three, if you join with that side over there,
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your parishioners that donate to the church get to use that as a tax deduction. That's how they sucked all this in. Mark, have you ever heard Brent tell the story about where that came from? You know where it came from?
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No. I don't.
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Lyndon Johnson. Because the church has almost got him defeated, and he went back and said, I'll take care of that crap, and five zero one c three comes along. And what the stipulations of it are is that there's I believe there's a list of about 27 or 28 things that are considered public policy that you can't preach from the pulpit against, like income tax, abortion, etcetera, etcetera. Unless you're one of their preferred churches and then you can say whatever you want and they'll never touch you.
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Yeah. Well, it's interesting. According to what I'm searching on the on the Internet, says that the Indianapolis Baptist Temple lost their original church building, in 02/2001. The federal marshal seized the property due to unpaid taxes and penalties. The church moved to a new leased building in 02/2006 renovating it for their worship services, and they continue to grow and thrive, even increasing membership during this period. But they did not regain their original property.
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Yep. It it was all over the property right there. The property is gone. But I knew the church the church is just different in a different still there. But I know the people are still around. Okay. Good. Yeah. Well, they probably did. They probably got buried treasure under there or something. I don't know. Yeah. It's That was a big big headlines
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as sometime in the early days of my patriot, life. Sure. Remember
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it. Now think about this. What would have happened if that property had been in a trust?
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Well, that's a great alter question, isn't
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it? Yeah. If that property had been in a trust and the church had been leasing it from the trust, then the church wouldn't own any property to have lost.
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Yep. Well, now, brother, you you know you're just supposed to you know you're supposed to be quite set up and just obey the government like reverend Romans 13 says. Now let's just get let's just all get in that line. You know? That's a I think that's another soldiers.
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I think that's another program, Urbie.
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Yep. Over on the other It's interesting, you know, there's so much Bible verses that have been taken out of context. It's just sad. Oh, it's the idea. For instance, when when they talk about render under Caesar what is Caesar's and and they talk about, they were having to pay a temple tax, right? So Jesus and the apostles are, where were they headed? Was it for the census or going to the temple? There was some kind of tax, or they weren't in their homeland, but they were asked Peter if they were going to pay the tax and Peter said yes. Well if you go down further he was kind of chastised by Jesus for doing that and he said, one of the things that Jesus asked him was, does a king's children pay a tax?
And the answer is no. And he said, nonetheless, since you agreed, in other words, you made a contract, verbal contract, go get catch the fish, then it'll have a gold coin in its mouth. Damn. Yep. Take that coin and pay the tax. So see, the Jesus was was pointing out that you shouldn't have to pay that tax. But all the churches and and most pastors will tell you that you gotta pay a tax because of that of that verse Yes. Of of the those scriptures, and it's not true. That's not what you're saying.
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I've come from the diagram, but here here's the thing. I am the higher power, not them. They are our servants, and we are their rulers. They should be paying us. The you know, if you're gonna stick to that interpretation, be subject to the higher powers. That's we the people. Me. My person. I am the higher power, not them. Yeah.
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I agree. I agree. It just But but they tricked you out of it. Yeah. Not only did they trick you out of it, but now they got you paying for it. So you you take states like Oklahoma that's rich in in resources like, oil and gas, but yet we're paying for, we're subsidizing all of that. The taxpayers are subsidizing that when the companies that are accessing those resources, which are owned by the people, should be owned by the people, they have the state paying them instead of these companies paying the state for that right to do what they're doing with oil and gas and coal. And you know, look at Alaska. They they, have a tax, I believe, on their oil.
And I think, what is it? Once a year or something, they have a a check that goes to the Alaska.
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I have a, I have a guy from Alaska in our lunch group. Last year, it was $2,000 per resident. You have to be a resident. There you go. That's a requirement. And they pull it off of whatever the proceeds are that they've got in investments and whatever the investments pay, they take that and split it up among the residents and give eve everybody an even check. And, of course, you're talking about Trump's about to open up Anwar up there, folks. Anwar's got more oil in Saudi Arabia. K? Yep. So, there's good there's some changes are coming. There was something I wanted to say, that, Mark, did you hear when George came on and talked about one of my distant relatives over there in England? George O'Sales?
Well, he came up to somewhere, this guy George O'Sailes, and I'm English. Her name comes to English. Well, hell, he's about as big a rabble razzler as I am, turns out. So he must be in he must be in the genes somehow. And, I don't remember what all he did, but back there a couple hundred years ago, he's raising hell over there about something. And, so it does, runs in the family.
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Reminds me of Alex Jones talking about Trace's lineage from coming over on on the Pilgrim ships.
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Right. And, you know, they were Well, we do too. They fought We do too. They fought
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in the in the, revolutionary war. So Right. It's kinda in its mud.
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Well, the sales family was on the Mayflower. That's in my grandfather and his brother's, genealog genealogical research. And we had somebody here the other day from, oh, right around, Rhode Island and Providence. And I in that paper that I read on this years ago, it said there's a one of the main streets in Providence, Rhode Island is named Sales Avenue, and he confirmed that. And, it also said there's a building at Brown University that is named the Sales Building. The Sales family in those days, well, they they somehow got into bleach, and they were many of them were in the bleach business.
And, one of the sales girls married Roger Williams. So, yeah, pretty pretty entrenched history up there. It's one part of the country. I've never been to the Northeast, actually, outside of New York. But, yes, very rich family background, I guess, and that added to it the other day when George brought that out and, told us about George sales. So we're we're we're a radical bunch here. I like it. Can you imagine
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if you discovered that your distant relatives and Alex Jones' distant relatives were on the same ship?
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Well, that sounds sounds like they were. I know they were on the Mayflower because that was in that paper. That would be a hell of a coincidence, wouldn't it? Yeah. It would be. And I'm also pretty pretty, pretty assured and have come to the conclusion that they had to be involved in the first Thanksgiving because everybody in the sales family cooks. Okay? And cooking's a big deal to them. So I'm sure they Well, what? Broasted some corn over and over and over. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, just a little background. That's true on our family. And, you know, it's funny when I read that years ago, it was it was neat information, but it didn't mean anything to me like it means now that we're into this Right. And have been for a number of years. That's when it came to be important.
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Yeah. You know, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, and especially, I don't know why, but I've always it's kinda like even from a little kid. I enjoyed Thanksgiving above everything else. It's just a totally different atmosphere. And then, in my early adult Christian life, I discovered that all the other holidays that Christians, celebrate are a conversion of a pagan holiday. So when Constantinople said everybody will be Christian, then the Christians started adapting the pagan holidays to fit their holidays. Yep. But that's I think that's a a huge mistake. You know, when we talk talk about Easter that we just, celebrated, well, that's not a that's not a Christian word at all. It came from a a fertility god named Ishtar. You can see how that got construed to Easter.
The Yep. The bunny rabbit and laying eggs, that's all fertility god worship. You know? And,
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a bunny rabbit laying eggs.
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Who who who never heard of a ridiculous thing like that?
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And then I'm gonna pull the pin and drop this one in on everybody. Easter wasn't on Sunday. Right? Oh, I should say resurrection day was not on Sunday. And when you go back and look at the the Jewish traditions back then, the the they had a high Sabbath that was celebrated. And so it looks like from from a historical purpose and what Jesus said, that Jesus was actually crucified. I believe it had been on a Wednesday afternoon, and he and he rose again Saturday morning, if I got my numbers right. So so it's not you know, he said he'll be in the earth three days and three nights as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish. Well, if everybody celebrates his death on a Friday, which was supposedly good Friday, and he resurrected on Sunday morning, that's not three days and three nights. So there's some some conflict. Now with that being said with that being said, it it does not affect your salvation.
So I don't get hung up and I don't normally try to correct people on that because it doesn't affect your salvation. So but I tell you it's fascinating when you look at the Orthodox Hebrew customs, the Israelites customs, they line up perfectly with really what, the Christian church would be following. It's a shadow of the life of Christ is celebrated routinely throughout the year in these these celebrations, these traditions. Yes. So that is really fascinating. Years ago, there was I don't know how I got up on this topic, but years ago, there was a gentleman named Joseph Good, and I saw him interview on a on a TV channel and he was explaining some of the Jewish traditions.
His sister married a Jew and he asked God to show him a way to reaching for Christ and God started revealing all these Jewish traditions. And the festivals that they keep are direct reflection of the life of Christ. It's a foreshadowing, and and Christ fulfilled every one of those. And it's absolutely fascinating. Anyway, that I I picked up on that. I bought his materials, and it was really eye opening.
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Eye yield. Yep. Question for Mark.
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Yes. Go ahead.
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Mark, have you ever heard Rush Limbaugh when he read his father's essay on the true story of Thanksgiving?
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No.
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I don't think I've heard that either. You should look it up. I was pretty well, I was a pretty loyal rush listener back in the early days, especially.
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I was until he supported NAFTA. And I'm like, oh, you know?
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Uh-huh. With bother him. Have to listen Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say I couldn't listen to him in Atlanta. I'd heard about him. And, the way I'd have to listen to Rush was on a good day, we could catch a skip out of w w l in New Orleans. And the reason they didn't have him in Atlanta is because Atlanta is one of the worst AM markets in the world because of Stone Mountain and the, out it's so totally underlied by granite. And AM radio, one of the components is a ground wave. And with that granite there, they can't kick out a ground wave that goes very far. That's why AM is terrible in Atlanta. So, anyway, just a little radio background for you. What a what WSB did to overcome that, the big Cox flagship station there, WSB AM FM TV, and they own the journal constitution, was they went out by Stone Mountain and got a bulldozer out there, Mark Of course. And bulldozed a big chunk of a field out down about a foot or two or more, and then put a total copper plate down there. And they attach the transmitter to it so the copper kicks out the ground wave. That's why you get WSB so far, and it overcomes that problem of that granite.
But Stone Mountain out there to the East Of Atlanta where they've got the Confederate generals and stuff carved into Stone Mountain there, that's the largest outcrop of granite in the world. Wow. Yeah. Yep. Pretty interesting. Georgia's got a lot of granite. That's why they did those Georgia Guidestones there. Because one of the requirements was the quality of the granite, and they've got a big company there called North Georgia Granite right up there back where I used to live North Of Atlanta. And they didn't have very far to take that excellent granite from North Georgia granite over to the place where the guide stones were built. Wow. Anytime you see pink granite, it comes from North Of Atlanta right there. It's the only place in the world they've ever found it.
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Interesting.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. It is kinda. One of the attributes of Georgia, little history a lot of people don't know about. So listen. We got a couple of minutes left. We we were talking with Erby. Was that you or who was commenting there that I stepped on?
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It wasn't me, but I was when I had earlier about, Jesus, the two gods that he said we had to choose from. It was interesting that he said, you know, either the true god or mammon money, not the devil. Yeah. Well, exactly. You know? It it was mammon. It was just like
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now these people, they're all hungry about the money. Uh-huh. The love of money. Back to, you get back to Brent, and what does Satan translate as? Do you remember? Distributor of wealth. Distributor of wealth. Really? Yes. That's profound, isn't it? That same reaction I had that you just had right there.
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And you see it. I mean, once your eyes are open, you can't unsee it, but it that's the common denominator, man. It's all about the money. Yep. It really is. Yep. It's sad. That's why I weaned myself off of it a long time ago. And and,
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here's what the in my younger days, the very elementary formal logic here. I said, You know, it seems to me that people with a bunch of money, they're either laying awake half the night thinking about who's gonna steal it from them, or they're laying awake the other night trying to figure out how to get more. So either way, you're asleep and you're awake at night. K? So I've just never been into it. I mean, I was a little more when I was younger, but, I've gotten out of that for years. And, boy, less is more. I I say that on the show here all the time. Less is more. Really.
K. It's not you see, you don't own things. Things own you. It's just a reverse. That nice car, you got insurance. You gotta wash it. You gotta change that oil. You gotta do this and do that, all that. It really is commanding your attention. And I'm just better off without any of that crap. Yes, Dave. Yeah. Hey. Howdy. Howdy. We we used to go to this church, and the they had a preacher there. His name was Les Les Moreland. Alright. He was on the right direction direction. Yep. You're right. Thanks. Thanks, Dave. Yep. So anybody else in the audience that's, we've touched on something you want to comment on? There was somebody, I think was it Rich? Rich, was that you that I stepped on a minute ago and we hadn't gotten back to you?
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Well This is Rick.
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Yeah. I thought so. You got a echo. Didn't you weren't you saying something a minute ago that I that I stepped on? Well,
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I was just gonna give you a short synopsis of, Russia's father's story, Massachusetts Bay Colony. Oh. When they, got there, they had a charter, and the charter was basically communistic. And they had, everyone's was supposed to work and put the stores in a comp communal warehouse. And, that first winter, they almost starved because there were a lot of people that worked hard, but a lot of them didn't work at all. They figured, well, they'd be taken care of. Right. And the next year, they changed the charter, and it was all everyone for himself. If you didn't work, you didn't eat. And they had an abundant harvest, and that's when they, threw to the festival and invited the Indians to it.
The Indians taught them how to plant corn, but it was the change in the charter that saved them.
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Very interesting. I've never heard that before. It makes perfect sense. Communism never works because nobody's got any damn initiative. The other people suck your initiative, and the whole thing falls on his face. Every time, it's never done otherwise. So my observation, boy, I don't like communist. I don't like communism. I just detest them. Well, it's Okay. Anybody else got something to go? There's Paul. Paul's got something. What, buddy? Well, socialism and wealth distribution
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only works as long as the rich find out that there's no reason to work hard because they won't be able to keep it anyway.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, I've said that the only thing a majority of people have ever done is vote their hands into your pockets.
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Mhmm. Period. Okay.
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Yes. Who who else is starting to say something there?
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I was thinking about, communism being the distributor of wealth. Yes.
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Yeah. But it's it's not. It's they don't distribute it to anybody. They keep it for themselves to rule over you.
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Distributive misery.
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Well, if you go back to equal opportunity misery. Go go ahead, Mark. If you go back to what Brent was saying that the definition of Satan was the distributor of wealth, and you look at communism, which is the distribution of wealth, there you go. Yeah. Put it together.
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My friend who helped turn me on, hold on, Larry, to this whole tax movement, Stan Bravi, now dead, Russian Jew. And he would say, we pretended to work, and they pretended to pay us.
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That's so true.
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The best story was the one about social medicine, and his brother had lost an arm in World War two. And so his I don't remember which one, but the other arm was bothering him. And so he went to the doctor, and he goes in, sits down, And the doctor goes, what's wrong? And he goes, well, my arm's hurting. And he goes, well, use the other one.
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It's He never even got stuck to
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see, he only had one arm. That reminds me Larry, what you got? That's great stuff. Larry. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think I know where Brent gets the definition from. If you go to, Ezekiel chapter 28, most theologians believe that the prophet was speaking to the prince of Tyrus, but really that that's true, but really he was speaking through the prince of Tyrus to Satan. And the verses go like this, The word of the Lord came again unto me saying, son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, thus saith the Lord God, because thine heart is lifted up and thou has said, I am a God. I sit in the seat of God in the midst of the seas, yet thou art a man and not God.
Though thou set thine heart as the heart of God, behold, thou art wiser than Daniel. There is no secret that they can hide from thee. With thy wisdom and with thine understanding, thou hast gotten thee riches and has gotten gold and silver into thy treasures. Now get this verse, by thy great wisdom and by thy traffic hast thou increased thy riches and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches.
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Did that say by thy traffic?
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Seriously? Exactly. King King James version. Exactly. That is Well, that that might be That is how the states fund themselves.
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Oh, that's funny.
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That's rich. Well, I would think traffic more like merchandise, trade, etcetera. You can look at it in that definition. Roger. That's what the word really means. Uh-huh. And it's just a beautiful language. I know a lot of people swear on the King James. When the translators said on the front page there are over 500 mistranslations in this book, and we're not to blame, that just throws a blanket on it for me. Sorry. Roger, traffic means commerce. I like I like yeah. Commerce. I like my, for our Fenton bible. So, anyway, we'll we'll be back tomorrow. There's our whistler, obviously. It's been a pretty good discussion today. We always appreciate Mark being along and, everybody else, of course.
But, we'll we'll trudge on and see what the day's events look like. You know, we might even have a new student or something tomorrow. We haven't seen one of those in a couple of weeks anyway. So, we will go on about our day and see how tomorrow begins when I join you again.
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So, I promise you get none of these. Larry's got something else to add. Yes, sir? Really quick. Yeah. You you're right by mentioning that word merchandise because later on down in the verses, it says, thou was perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created till iniquity was found in thee by the multitude of thy merchandise. They have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned. Therefore, I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God, and I will destroy thee, oh, covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
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Was he talking about Black Lives Matter or Antifa? I don't know. We'll stay tuned, and we'll
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come back and talk about it. Of the earth.
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Oh, yeah. The merchants of the earth. Okay, kids. Well, we enjoyed it. Hope you did too. Ciao. Okay. Well, that's the end of that. Boy, is the sun shining briskly today. That's nice. Yeah. Mark always yes. You may.
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Urbie.
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Yes. This is Urbie. I, my findings were this when I went deep dive into the King James. What you are talking about is the King James people said, we only we could not translate some words in here, and they're talking about names of cities or plants or animals that there is in all of their research, there's no other place that this word is found other than in the King James. So we gave our best guess. It may or may not be right. And if anything is found in the future, it may shed light upon it, but we have to give our best shot in this case.
They didn't admit to this being an error. They just said, hey. This is the only time this word appears in all of human history, and it's right there. So what does it mean? It wasn't They didn't have admitted a mistake.
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Alright. Okay. Well, they didn't have as many manuscript. Alright. They didn't have as many manuscripts to rely on either back then by any means. Well, they they actually they had all the manuscripts that have found been found since
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were reflective of what they had. Okay. It's not like Mhmm. Okay. All the new stuff, all the new stuff that has been found since agree with the manuscripts that they use. Just confirm that. I'll confirm. It's it's 9595% of all manuscripts agree. Let not agree. This is my forte. This is my strength. This this out this whole area is, agrees with what the King James has been, founded upon. And I used to be a very staunch, extreme anti King James hater and could defeat any type of King James defender back when I was a pro modern version. So I I understand both sides of the equation together.
Okay. That that's that.
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Okay. Great, Irby. I I rely back on about a five part series that pastor Pete had called the King James only version. You can probably still go on scriptures for america.org, and I'll order those tapes. But they went over a very, very well, five hours worth of discussion and background on it. So Comment. Anyway, Joe, you were yeah. I know you're there, Joe. Hey, buddy. What you got?
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I invite Ervie to bring Erasmus into the discussion.
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Well, I'll invite you to go ahead and look. I have, probably 5,000 videos on the version issue on my YouTube channel that will get into all of that. And, they do a lot better job than me. But, yeah, there's there's too too big a subject to handle here, but I I the a worse cult than King James only is the cult of the original autographs only because there is no such thing. Nobody's ever had any original autographs. The when the originals were pinned shortly thereafter, those were destroyed and copies of copies of copies made. So anything and everything we have is from a copy. So the issue is, did God preserve the transmission of the originals through the process of preservation?
That's the issue. But the cult of original onlyism is far, far worse, and I was one. So I know what I'm speaking about. I don't even think I ever heard of that one. Herb. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I haven't heard of that before. When Jesus quoted, when he held up that book of Isaiah and quoted from it, That was a preserved copy of the original. It wasn't the original autographs. There is no such thing. There never has been such a that's that's a straw man that critics put out there to justify their false assumptions because and and and guys, I'm one of them. I'm not gonna be on the dumb team. I'm a smart guy with a smart tribe, and we are the superior ones. And you need to shut up and listen to us. That's our human default setting.
And, you know, I I just I went after it like, you know what? I may be wrong and come to find out my side, the modern version sides were the ones misquoting, misrepresenting, and, they they were telling the stories. They were telling a bunch of falsehoods. And it took me about four years to get out of that. I'm literally studying four to five hours a day on that one singular topic about which version. And, yeah, I'm and and now, hey. I'll throw I'll throw it out there. I'll live up to my name and say and now through the crazy what whatever you wanna call it, Mandela effect, quantum jumping attacks, The King James version is changing through that because it no longer says lion in the lamb. It says wolf in the lamb. It's got a whole bunch of changes in there. How's that happening? I don't know, but it is happening. Him and
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they must be be getting together with Scofield and rewriting the notes.
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Well, yeah, it's it's more than that. Oh, I was a big Scofield guy. I I I like yeah. It's I was all into that. Hey. I was big time. It's amazing. Well, Irby, it always amazed me how the notes keep changing long after Scofield's died.
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That's the one. He's reaching back from the grave and changing the things. Yeah. They're they're they're it's it's sad. It's sad. I know. Well, that's why like that. Listen. That's why this little resource right here, our little radio program, is such a valuable resource. Because if you can find her or we can find you, we can get you out all that crap and put you down pretty well a pretty straight road. Okay? So, anyway, if you if you're the right person, as I've said earlier in the show today, if you're the right person and this information crosses your path, you may not know jack scutally about law or history or anything else, but you know there's something of great substance here, and it grabs you. And you can't shake it.
K? That's my experience. Do all you people those are All of y'all are right here are like that. K? And so am I. Paul only had And that's a total one third of a damn presentation, and look where he is and what he's done. Do what, Joe?
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Roger.
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Yeah. Yes. Is that Joe?
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Yeah. Jesse. No. That's Jesse. Do you hear me?
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Yeah. I hear you, Jesse.
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Yeah. And another thing about the King James, the original King James sixteen eleven, they changed everything in 1786. So most people that have King James, they think they have it from the original one, but it's really the revised one for 1786, and they added the Don't. Don't.
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Don't. Don't go there. It's not changed. It was let's it was Greek. It was it was the different FICA. They had a Germanic type way of spelling English words. The f's look like s's, the u's were the v's, the v's were the w's. All of that stuff, there was no listen. There was no standardized spelling. You could spell savior five different ways on the same page that nothing was changed. It was just
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a standardized Well, what I'm saying, they added it. For example, before that before that, there was no j and they added the j on the seventeenth.
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Yes. So all of that stuff that that's not an attack. That's not a attack. That's not Let me finish.
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Let me finish. Not let me finish. I'm not saying one thing or the other. I'm saying that most people in the sixteenth century century came to The United States from Europe with the Geneva Bible. Geneva Bible. Right. They they did not use for about a hundred, two hundred years. The King James, they they really rebuked, King James, and, and they thought they were just being manipulated because, you know, he was like the the god of, earth, and that's why they didn't like it. So most for about a hundred fifty years, most of the religious or spiritual people will use the, Geneva Bible, not and 70% of the King James had the, Geneva Bible script
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there. That's all I want. All of those all of those seven versions of English before King James, they were based on the same underlying Greek and Hebrew text and manuscripts. That's the thing. It was from the same family tree. Geneva was was built up was, translated in Switzerland under Calvinism, and the King James people didn't like that. They said we want our own bible from our own land, not over there from France or Switzerland or wherever it was. We're good enough to do do our own stuff. That's their version. Let's do ours. But it was still the same group of family manuscripts. That's what people don't think. It's not it's just another
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another manifestation of the same stuff in a different way. What they and that's what they do with the American standard. They were trying to have their own English version. It's it's the But those versions,
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all all, 100%, including the so called new King James version, All of them are based upon the corrupted, changed manuscripts. Guys, listen. Just like today, you read a Bible, people who believe in god are not gonna want to change. They're just going to copy it out into their own language and roll with it, believing God to use his word. Other people are gonna say, you know what? I don't believe that. I'm going to change it. And they correct and they corrupt what is said. Well, I believe what god really meant there was this, and they literally change it. And there's a whole group of those smarter than god people who created their own manuscripts.
And that is the, critical text, and that's their use. They critique the bible, and they man it man it up, and they put their versions upon it. And that's where every single without exception modern version comes from. Modern manuscripts come from the corrupted text. Plain and simple, big overview. And not recognizing that is to our own detriment. And I had to get over my prior training. I'll I'm deeply involved into all that theological programming from both sides. And I had to, you know, skip it out through my own. But, yeah. So I've been there, done that, and I understand it. Irby, what do you think of the Farrar Fenton Bible?
That one I don't know about. That's I I I don't know. I I don't know. You're kidding. That's a new one. You know what you need? A man of your background, you need to know about this.
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I heard about it on pastor Pete. I bought I bought my copy through pastor Pete. His story will almost make you cry. It's at the front. You can find it on the web. It's all downloadable. Some of the books, he adjusted around a little differently. For r Fenton was an incredible guy. He went to Oxford. He was an atheist. And somewhere along the line, he got saved, and he thought that the reason that the, English were losing their empire, this in the eighteen hundreds, late '18 hundreds, was because the people couldn't read the King James Bible. They weren't using that type of language anymore.
And so he went to translate the Bible into plain English. And he exclusively used the Greek manuscripts, and, he was in contact with all of the other Greek scholars around the world. And every time he got to a word, he would stop translating and write a letter on that word in question, and he would not proceed further until he got back an answer from every one of the people he wrote to. K? And, he didn't finish. It was his lifelong project. He's a very successful businessman evidently in about five about five different areas. But, the what I can tell you is my you you know who James Brugeman is? Is that name familiar to you, Irby?
[02:14:16] Unknown:
No, sir. No.
[02:14:18] Unknown:
He's a he's a circuit pastor from Asheville and, used to travel the Southeast, and he'd come to Atlanta. He was our pastor, and he knew Greek and Hebrew and all that stuff. And and what was amazing was when he'd get to a word that he was unsure of the translation, he would stop and go over all the possibilities and all that stuff. And I the one I particularly remember is Guyana. Okay? And so but every time when he go over all that and there was another fellow in the congregation that had a Farfinton bible too. He's a good friend of mine. And every time, it was always correct.
In any of those situations with Bregaman, the Farfinton bible had the correct answer. You ought to go look at it. It's a very, very readable English. F e r r a r f e n t o n. And just read the, the introduction of of it. Yeah. I promise you'll make you cry. K? That's just quite a And And you've never heard with all your stuff Honestly, no. And everything that you've prop pontificated on us here, that's pontificated.
[02:15:33] Unknown:
Well, the all my deep studies, it was back you know? And then once I came to the conclusion, I understood. But that, I had not come across that particular one, but all the rest of them. And I used to have a seven day seminar where I would go to different churches and present this material that I found out. Uh-huh. And that's one of the things I did on these modern versions. I read their induct you know, their introductions where, you know, the the prefaces and all that stuff. And King James did the same thing. They've taken out the prefaces and all that, but they explained in there what they did. And as soon as the King James people, which I trust the 50 guys that did it over one person, you know, they all they all had to have a mastermind group, and they all checked each other's work.
So I trust that process over me slaving over my stuff, you know, the the mastermind. But, I read those things, and and they told on themselves. They all admitted, yeah. We don't use oh, well, they'll say we use what King James did, but we have better translate. And they they define better manuscripts. Here's what they mean. Well, this is a better manuscript. It's in better condition. It's a pristine book just like my, Jehovah's Witness and Mormon Bible up there on the shelf. I hardly use them. They are in pristine, excellent shape.
That doesn't mean they're right because my Bible is wore out. It's tore up, and I've had to throw away some. They're in the trash heaps, and that's where the manuscripts that the King James is translated on. They're abused. They're worn out. They're broken. But the critical people say, well, that bible is in better shape. And they're, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus and the ones they found in these libraries. They're beautiful, beautiful works of art. So they say that's a better, more preserved manuscript.
[02:17:35] Unknown:
That's their understanding. Encourage you. And that's not true. With your back or with your background, I really hope you'll go look a little bit at Farfinton, maybe compare it to some of the things that you normally use, and and and come back and give us your opinion on it. I'd be very interested. It's quite an impressive bible, and it very few people know about it. I've got a copy here with me. K? I'm looking at it. I wonder if it's I brought South America.
[02:18:01] Unknown:
I use I use, that on online, the my blue letter bible or something. It's got all kinds of
[02:18:08] Unknown:
all kinds of good aids. I mean, you know, it's one click away, man. I don't have to reach out to Okay. Pull down 15 different bibles anymore. I'll just I'll just yeah. Look at it. I think you'll be impressed. It's very well done. It's never wrong. In in the situations where it was put to the test,
[02:18:24] Unknown:
in my hand, it's never been wrong.
[02:18:27] Unknown:
So, always every time is right. So, anyway, listen, kids, I'm gonna get out of here, probably go to lunch. It's a provocative conversation and stimulating. And, if you guys wanna continue it, I certainly encourage you to do so. But unless anybody's got something specifically for me, after two hours of this, I'm just kinda mentally drained, you know, running the show here. And, if you've never done it, you don't know what it takes out of you. Yes, sir, Larry.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Before you go, a couple of years ago, I read, somewhere there's this article, and they did actually did a scientific test on the King James Bible and they took a number of other versions, and they compared to see if the King James version was more difficult to read and the conclusions they came to what they did is they got a group of people together to read various verses out of the out of all the different Bibles and then they were asked to see if they understood it and if they can explain it. And they had all these different ways of measuring these tests. And the conclusion they came to was the King James version was actually written in a more simple language and it was written at a fifth a fifth grade education level.
Yep. And another thing is a lot there's this big argument out there that, oh, the King James is it's got all that old archaic language in there. But the thing that most people don't understand is in the Greek, the Greek, whenever you would, dissect a word, I forget what that's called, but you can tell if you're if that word was referring to a single person or a group of people and all that. Well, the King James preserved that from the Greek. For example, whenever you read the word ye, y y e in the King James version, then you know that the speaker is talking to a group of people, some, you know, more than one person and if you read the word the t h e e, you know that the speaker is talking to one specific person in in front of them. So by eliminating all of the these, thousand, yeas, what they did was they they they caused the the the Bibles to lose that distinction of whether they're talking to one person or a group of people.
And so that that's an interesting thing that I I read about. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, you need to do that. Copy?
[02:21:08] Unknown:
They brought what? They brought that. The King James the King James translators brought that back because of that problem. That was a 300 earlier thing that English people did that wasn't in the sixteen hundreds, but they said, hey. We gotta correct this. How can we do that? Because, like, now, you, you know, you can say y'all, you, and it's all everybody. So to distinguish that very thing to keep the integrity in there, they brought back the old v's and vowels. Anything's a t. It's a single like a man like like, picture a man standing there at attention t and the e's are your arm stretched out. Those are plural. All the white words are plural. And they brought that back in from three hundred years ago and and put it into that translation.
[02:21:51] Unknown:
Mhmm. Did you hear about the version where the printer I'm sorry? What now? Go go go go repeat.
[02:22:01] Unknown:
For our Fenton Bible, $65 on Amazon.
[02:22:05] Unknown:
That was pretty good. I paid 50 for it a long time ago. Have you heard about the Bible that, the the that the printer left out the knot in one of the commandments? Have y'all heard about that? This true story. When they just used to have Oh, yeah. Big Bible on Yeah. There's a bunch of those. Those damn printed Bibles came up with some stuff, man. They came up with some stuff. Well, the guy that you have that Bible because everybody couldn't didn't have a Bible, they'd have a big King James. It'd be up on a podium on the side of the church, I guess, where you could go look at it and look up verses.
And the printer that printed one of the versions where it said, thou shalt not commit adultery, left out not. So it said, thou shalt commit adultery. And so all the parishioners had pointed out, and they'd go up there and look at it and giggle. And King James, I think, had the guy beheaded. God Brent knows about it.
[02:23:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know about that. But, yeah, they had they had the two printers, Oxford and Cambridge. And another little twist to the King James store that people don't know about, one of those Oxford guys, a new guy came in, and he did not like being told how to do this stuff. So he changed a few things in the King James, the official King James authorized King James text that was handed down from the crown, and then these two printing houses printed that. Oxford said, forget you guys. I'm doing my own thing. So there is two different versions of the King James, and that is a legit argument. And the one that stayed with the original text is the Cambridge edition. And that's another little theme that people don't know about, but it's fine. I mean, if if I get an Oxford, I just go in there and write and and change it. And it does matter. I mean, there's a few of them that does matter things. But yeah. So the Cambridge edition, lineage is the correct one because they didn't change anything. Oxford bucked up, and I'm proud. The Oxford people said, oh, we're gonna do it right. And they changed with the, crown. It said it was the authorized official stuff.
[02:24:23] Unknown:
Cool. Alright. Anybody else got anything for me? I'm assuming not, and I've got to do things. Bathroom, lunches, all kinds of mandatory things. I will see you all tomorrow. Have a great day. Enjoy the conversation. Hope you did too.
[02:24:56] Unknown:
I'm looking for that for our that fitting bible draw on PDF file right now. I'm looking for that.
[02:25:03] Unknown:
I think there's some paperbacks that are probably cheaper.
[02:25:08] Unknown:
No. PDF is free. It's digital. I just use digital.
[02:25:11] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Archivearchive.org.
[02:25:13] Unknown:
That's wasted. If if you if you got if to look for a book, here's how you do it. A hack, a search hack. Use Yandex or Google or whatever. I use, Yandex usually. You put in brackets PDF, and then you put out the title of the book or the man's name and often sometimes in parentheses because it hits that title. And then at the end of that, you put down without brackets PDF, and it'll take you directly to any PDF files that's out there. And you can just download the book. And there's two or three resources out there that does that for you. One is called Anna's archives. Of course, archive.org, the Wayback Machine, that's a good place. But Anna's archives, Anna's dash archives dot org, that is a fantastic book finding in epublish or Moby, whatever text it is. They find that. And also oceanofpdf.com, they have, I don't know how they do it. I mean, it's amazing. Take the heart to me, man. Because the back in the hard book, they I used to have to go, you know, find the publishers, write to them, buy the books online, wait for it to come to you, read something in a footnote, and find that book. And it was a long laborious process, but I had I had a library.
But, man, when I found when it was on CDs and DVDs, I I gave those books away, man. I just said this is for me. And now you don't even have to have the CDs. You don't even have to have plug a CD into a a a boot or anything. You just I just on this little phone, I've got this amazing amazing stuff, man. This is an impossible technology I'm holding in my hand. Scientists couldn't even dream it up two old people ago, but here we are. But you're the only audiobook.
[02:27:07] Unknown:
How about audiobooks? Are they there too?
[02:27:12] Unknown:
No. Audiobooks are on archive.org. I I hadn't looked for the audiobooks. And what I'm what I'm doing, just because the the time wise, I'm trying to determine which of the reading There's reading programs out there. There's apps that you can download that will read your electronic books for you. And, that's that's what I'm looking to do now because I have a big library, but to sit here and, you know, physically look and read, Although, I'm speed reading. It's just better to speed listen because you can, you know, work and do stuff with your hands at the same time as listening to the stuff. So multitasking.
Yeah. Audio books. Yeah. That's that's an amazing thing too. And all this technology, man, it's it's not just I'm like a little freaking kid all day long. I'm just like, wow. This is so fun. This is so fun. Just finding this stuff. Just just to be able to find it. You know? Absolutely amazing. But, yeah, audio books, I have the books announced trying to figure out which ones that I can't find one. You have to pay for a lot of that stuff, and, you know, a good deal ain't a good deal unless you got the money for the deal. So no money, no deal. That's that's my solution to my money problems. No money, no problem. Right?
That's all that issue. Yeah. How to find the audiobooks? I don't know. That that that's an entirely different thing. I've I've just only downloaded either PDF or EPUB, the EPF. That's the only two I deal with. And, p usually PDF, but EPUB files are easier on the eyes, but they take up more space. They just anyway, so but, yeah, so I'm I'm looking it up right now. I'm looking up that fitting bible as we're as we're talking.
[02:29:06] Unknown:
Those glasses you have on are easy on the eyes too.
[02:29:14] Unknown:
You can see my glasses? Are you looking through my thing? Are are you hacked into my phone? Hi. No. I'm Are you sitting there at your house? Are your pictures right up on the screen here? It's got two of them. Oh, is it? Yeah. Those thing. Oh, yeah. Is that yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a that was a funny thing, and I've kept it as my, avatar online because it tells a story. I mean, the glasses you wear, those are my my they live glasses. My own person because they open up my eyes. The blood blood of Jesus. Love, you know, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The diamonds around it, god does promise us prosperity and favor.
And, you know, I'm gonna on the side of, that type of lifestyle instead of, oh, woe is me. I can't. I'm just nothing but a vagabond type mentality anymore. You know, I'm gonna go the whole opposite direction. Well, I guess you look at the world through rose colored glasses. That's it. That's it. Somebody one of my friends said, Urbie, I knew you was gonna get in touch with your inner Elton John. But yeah. I like it. I like it.
[02:30:30] Unknown:
Hey. Speaking of easy on the eyes, if you're reading from your cell phone a lot, I've discovered that if you go into your settings, your display settings, and switch to dark mode, it puts a dark background on the letters, and the letters become white. And it's just so much easier to read that. So just a little tip for people out there.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I did that a few years ago. I learned about that. And and, this phone I have, I mean, there's so much that can be done. My daughter, oldest daughter, she has it's not the but she shakes, you know, her hand shakes, and she can't, like, type. But you you can go in here on this phone and program it to where it does everything by voice. And she's got her phone set up to where she talks to her phone and makes it do everything. You know? And so she just holds her phone instead of trying to take her shaky hands and do stuff with it. And, yeah, it's and it's right here. It's already here. I don't know how to do it, but, I'm I'm holding an f 16 fighter jet in my hands with the keys, and yet I'm sitting around in a Amish buggy getting around. You know what I'm saying? I just kinda hook up the donkey to it and bring it down the highway.
But, yeah, it's this is amazing technology we have. This is just amazing stuff.
[02:31:56] Unknown:
What's amazing is how fast it finds information. No matter what you're looking for, I mean, in a split second, you have thousands of pages of information.
[02:32:09] Unknown:
I have a friend who is gotten into the AI aspect, and he's doing a lot of AI stuff. And we literally stayed up for a day and a half, and he's punching in AI. And he has AI making speeches for me or speeches for him or just different things he tells it what to do. And he said that it literally, within a nanosecond, spit this out. And he's just laughing hysterically because he said, Irby, it's you. And you could take this and use it as a that is you, you know, and your reflections. And and it's amazing. But I the machine, I'm not impressed with. I look at that and go, there's somebody smart behind that machine. I see the intelligent design behind the machine. You know? And I'm thinking, woah. Somebody was smart out there to make this do that. You know? And it's just it's amazing.
The people, the smart people behind us that make it happen. It's just amazing.
[02:33:11] Unknown:
Another thing that's amazing is I read years ago that, the technology the the average consumer purchases is already ten to fifteen years obsolete in terms of what the government is able to acquire. So the government always has technology that is at least a decade or more ahead of what we get.
[02:33:39] Unknown:
Update. I had a retired big time military guy locally right here. Now that he's retired, I used to work at a place when I was able to, a a pull behind trailer place. It's a pretty big outfit here. And so some old timers would come and, you know, top trailer to the farmers and just sit around. And so we'd chat. And this old guy, he's talking to me, and I find out he's local. He's retired. And he explains that he's retired military, high operations military, and now he's telling his wife and family what he really did and who he really was now that he's out of the game and so old that he don't care. You know? There's no repercussions. So he's an old, old man telling these stories, and he knows things.
And so back then, this was fifteen years ago. I'm asking him at the time about UFOs. And he smiled, and he's got a twinkle in his eye. And he said, well, Irving, there's still some things I can't tell, but here's what I can tell you, What you just said. He said, what you see that we have, the military is forty to sixty years ahead of what you think. And I went, ah, so it is our stuff. And he's just smiling and twinkling. And that phrase, he didn't say 40 to 50. He didn't say 50 to 60. He said 40 to sixty. And in my crazy research, I have found other people in that type of position saying the same thing. And they always use that forty to 60, which is odd to me. I mean, that you know, why didn't 40 to 50 or 50 to 60? That 20 gap. And other people, like, four other people I've heard say the same thing in the same type of interviews with the same type of people.
So whatever it is, they are way ahead of what we what we think. And what they are what they're feeding us, what we see is their model a's, and they're out there, you know, way ahead of that. So and I saw I saw a black and white military training film from the nineteen forties. I saw it, and I was studying it. And they were talking about back then the ability that the military had to plant thoughts into the enemy's brain through frequencies and technologies and machines to make the people kill each other or surrender or do stupid stuff back then. That they could shoot it over there and everybody's going, yay. Our military does this good stuff to the bad guys.
Not ever thinking that they could use it on us. But, yeah, all that stuff's out there, man. But our government would never do that to us. They'd never do that to us. They love us. They care for us. And like Clinton said, they feel our pain.
[02:36:27] Unknown:
I well, I try to, be more conservative in my figures. I I don't I've never heard the forty to sixty years ahead of of of ahead of the consumer in terms of what you just said. I've I've always heard the, the ten to twenty year range. But, the reason I I like to say, you know, about fifteen years ten to fifteen years is because now I'm I'm not a believer in the whole moon landing, but I did listen to this, this well credentialed, reputable scientist who used to believe in the moon landing until he started to debunk it as a hoax. And this guy was an older gentleman. He was he was like a professor type, very interesting person to listen to, and he got up in front of an audience. This was years ago, and it was on YouTube. I don't know if it's still on there, but he, he was explaining that the technology they had in 1969 was the equivalent of a Commodore sixty four computer.
And I I wanted to get a a Commodore sixty four computer when I was a kid, and those those came out, like, around in the late seventies. And I I had to settle for a Texas Instruments computer, And I started to write code and and create my own games because the big thing back then was, I forget what the basic operating system was, but you had to type everything by hand. And so they had all these computer publications come out and You had it. They would have they would have these games in these in these magazines, and they would be a couple of pages long of code that you had to type in. And if you got, like, one letter off it, the the the program wouldn't work correctly. And so you'd have to go back in there and scan over everything that you typed in to make sure every jot and tittle was correct. Like, if you if you put in a period instead of a comma, you know, that would throw off the program. It would still work, but there would be, like, it would crash or whatever.
And so that was the big thing with with my friends and myself. We would we would type in these, these programs. And, so I learned to do that on a Texas Instruments. And then I I bought this, tape recorder, and I had to purchase this modem line. And you would attach it to the, not a modem line, but it was, like a connection and you would attach it to your computer. And in order to save what you typed in, the comp you know, you the computer would go through all these, like, noises, kinda like the fax machine. And so the tape recorder with the old cassette tape was recording all of the noises that the that it was making in order to record it onto the tape.
And so whenever you wanted to go back and finish typing in that program, you'd have to get your cassette tape and put it in there and replay it. And then the computer would read all of that, all of those sounds and translate it from whatever that analog sound was back into, you know, the the the the computer program on the screen or in the on the hard drive. And then you could, you know, pick up where you left off and type some more, more of the, program in. And, you know, there are simple games kinda like I mean, they're very simple games. They weren't like the Atari twenty six hundred. I mean, that would have been considered advanced to what these computer magazine games were.
But, anyway, that kinda stuck with me because, you know, that's about when the the Commodore sixty four computers came out was about, you know, twelve years after the moon landing. And when that scientist, you know, engineer said that, that just made me think, you know, there's no way. I agree with him, which is not really the point of my story, but I agree with him that there's no way they could have sent a rocket ship to the moon based on a Commodore sixty four computer system. That's just ludicrous.
[02:40:45] Unknown:
You had the name of the programming language right. It was BASIC. That's what it was called. Oh, was it? Was it? Yeah. Yeah. It was called basic. And you said that there was this basic program that you had to put in there.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:41:03] Unknown:
And, the, the Texas Instruments t I ninety nine four a, I had one of those. It was a good machine. And there's the Commodore VIC 20 was the original computer, and then they did what they always do. They enhanced technology, and they upgraded to the Commodore sixty four. And then that's where we were kind of in that eighties, mid eighties, something like that. And then in the nineties came out the the, IBM fifty one fifty, which was the first IBM DOS based computer, disk operating system. This is what DOS stands for. And then Microsoft came out with MS DOS, which was more robust than IBM DOS. However, it it used the same kernel because I believe Microsoft stole it.
And then it just went on from there. The IBM fifty one fifty was an eight bit, eight bit, PC that had 64 k of memory, 64 k of RAM, And the basic machine came with one five and a quarter inch floppy drive and a green screen or an amber, monochrome monitor, and that baby was upwards of five grand just for something that was, for all intents and purposes, a glorified calculator. And we just kept going from there. It was it was fun. It was the eighty eighty six, which was the first eighty eighty six was the first processor, then eighty eighty eight, and then, eight zero two eighty six, eight zero three eighty six, eight zero four 80 six.
There was the Pentium one, then the Pentium two, then I believe no. No. They did have a Pentium three and a Pentium four. And then Intel went to do went to the Core two Duo, Pentium architecture. And now there's quad cores, eight core, 16 core. All kinds of fun shit. Paul Paul is flexing, y'all. He's flexing. Yeah. Yo, bro. Gus just a little bit. Well, I figured from him. Well, come come on. I figured Larry talked for fifteen minutes straight. I've got it. I mean, I gotta keep it kinda even. You know?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
Did you used to do that too? Type in those computer magazine programs?
[02:43:52] Unknown:
Oh, hell. Yeah. I well, I wrote them from scratch. I, I had one program that I wrote that was called the digital date book, and, it had a data file. Well, I also had a menu. I had a menu program, so people that that knew nothing about DOS and writing on the command line, they could put a menu in their computer, and then it would just launch all their programs from their hard drive at the push of a button. But but what was really good was a program called Digital Datebook. And, the reason I wrote that is because I had a, wife who really had difficulty with that time of the month. I mean, her hormones went absolutely bananas.
So I I wrote a date book program so I could remind myself of, like, important dates, like, you know, my kids' birthdays and, my parents' birthdays, my anniversary. Oh my god. You never forget that. But then it also had, a sequence of days events where I could tell it to remind me of something, every twenty eight days, you know, and give it a starting point, and then it would just naturally extrapolate all of the the future reminders from there. But then because, you know, sometimes you need advance notice of things that were going on, I wrote into it the number of days advance notice, and you could customize the messages. You know, five days to the shit hitting the fan, four days to the rag is coming.
Three days to have you ordered flowers yet. Two days to have you considered chocolate. One day to tomorrow, you better not even come home. And it was to that and it that happened every twenty eight days because I didn't wanna be anywhere near the house when the wife was was, going through her struggles. Let's call them struggles. And and and then another another program that actually got, I think, the program got killed because the cowriter of the program, I think, got killed. It was called The Winning Effort, and it was written in basic, compiled as an executable, and it was a horse handicapping program.
And 80% of the time, it could pick the top three horses in any race. All you do is you put in the put in the historic stats for the horses and, what, whether they're on Lasix or Butte, whether they have blinders, what the track condition is on race day, all that. You just put in all of the horses, for each race, and the program would store the horses and all of their recent stats in the database. So if if the horse ran in another race, then you could put in the name, and it would say found, winning effort in, in the database.
Would you like to use the stored information or enter new? So you could enter the new information or you could bring in the old information and then you could update that. Well, 80% of the time, it would pick the top three horses. All three. So if you did a box bet, you could make money on it. And the thing was itty bitty and teeny weeny, and you could, take, like, any old crap laptop with you. Just sit right in the stands and read the racing form and put in the numbers. Well, the cowriter of that program I did the I did the technical back end. He did the the extensive, racing knowledge.
Cowriter disappeared, and I don't know what happened to him. Either he is no longer on this, as Paul English would say, mortal coil, or he, made his money, he moved, and he changed his name. But he he was he went off the radar, and I have no idea what happened to him. But I still have a copy of that program. Shh. Don't tell anyone. Anyway, that's all I got.
[02:48:40] Unknown:
I'm I'm sitting here washing dishes. I hope it don't and I'm smiling and laughing, and it this is great. This is and I have a friend who is a professional handicapper, and he makes big bucks. He's he's really into that.
[02:48:54] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. The the name of the program was called the winning effort. And when you ran it, it had to call a post that it would play.
[02:49:09] Unknown:
That's amazing to me. I I remember when the I remember I was working at a place and the boss had bought one of those new computers when he had a whiz kid, cousin, nephew or something who came with all of those books. I mean, you know, you came with a whole batch of books of all that DOS and all that. And he's sitting there for two or three days typing into this computer. Okay. Now, boss, you'll be able to use your computer, you know, to to order your stuff, to do your payroll, and it was just amazing to me. And,
[02:49:39] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:49:41] Unknown:
I actually have complete versions of those books. And, yeah, you're absolutely right. There is, like, three volumes, and each book was, like, two inches thick.
[02:49:53] Unknown:
And,
[02:49:56] Unknown:
every computer came with a set of books. One book for the operating system, one book for, the basic programming language. Well, I think some of them even had COBOL. It would would deliver the machines with a COBOL manual and, compiler disk. It was loads of fun. It was great fun that then or back in those days. At a computer store. It wasn't a store. I wanted to open a store, but I basically had a consulting firm, and it was called Concept Information Systems. And my phone number was, (612) 825-3282, which spelled out 825 And I used to advertise on KSTP channel five, and those were the days. You know? Those were the days.
And now I do this. Go figure. Not that I'm bragging or anything. I'm just giving you guys little a little history and background of where I came from before I stumbled on the radio range.
[02:51:19] Unknown:
Do do you have there's a, YouTube channel that I hung out with last night. I thought it was you, but I guess it wasn't. It's a channel called Internet kill the TV.
[02:51:33] Unknown:
Are you familiar with that?
[02:51:36] Unknown:
I believe that's WDRN productions channel.
[02:51:42] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I I I I have that bookmark because they had put out there some Roger Sales information and I think even some of your interviews, so I didn't know know about that. And they were live last night, and I thought it was you. And I just got on there and was, you know, just listening and talking, and, it it didn't sound like you, but then I listened and it wasn't him because somebody else is calling him different name. Or or or if you guys have different alias. You're you're underground, and and I'm not gonna expose who you went by. But yeah. Mostly.
[02:52:17] Unknown:
Oh, here's something really interesting that I actually didn't share during the show, but because we're still live, I can do it. Check this out. There is a language test in Arkansas for, commercial drivers. Check this out.
[02:52:40] Unknown:
Couldn't believe it. Going through Arkansas I thought it was a joke. Got stopped at the weigh station in Arkansas, and it was handed a piece of paper. And it says, can you read and write English? I said, yes, sir. I sure can. He goes, can you read this? So I read it to myself, and I was like, okay. I started handing it back. He goes, no. No. No. Read it out loud for me. So I read it out loud for him and, you know, it was short and sweet. No problem. He goes, now, can you write, you know, write this for me on this paper? And I did and there there was a whole bunch of people that had already written on it. And I was actually witnessing people in handcuffs that had been pulled in.
And I was like, what's going on? He goes, oh, we've, come across now that if you cannot read or write in English, that it's a $55,000 fine. And if you have a company in Arkansas that employs people that can't read or write in English, it's a $10,000 fine paid on the spot. If you cannot pay it, you're automatically arrested and lose your license. What a shocker.
[02:54:07] Unknown:
Interesting.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
Bro, that's pure tyranny. I don't care. I'm gonna go and hold my applause on Trump and Kennedy and all the supposedly good guy white hats doing their stuff. But that the worst evils of mankind have been done under quote, unquote, good godly government leaders. That's when the evil really comes out.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
Well, here's does that apply to?
[02:54:35] Unknown:
CDL drivers. That would be if you're a national? No. It it wouldn't apply to nationals, but then you would have the whole fight. You would have to educate them that I'm not a What I'm not a fourteenth amendment citizen.
[02:54:52] Unknown:
What crime is there in not being able to read or write?
[02:54:57] Unknown:
What does it matter? It's an administrative rule. But because you have a CDL, you're and you're in a trunk. Not a signatory to that. No. But if you if you Some truck. If you have a CDL and you're in a truck, you are operating under the authority of that CDL. So you're operating under the under the authority of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. What's that in
[02:55:29] Unknown:
go ahead. When I was in Greyhound School, we had a teacher. He was a Trailways driver. He said, I can't read and I can't write, but I can drive a bus.
[02:55:43] Unknown:
Right. So how are you supposed to be able to read, the names of towns, road signs, emergency messages. People
[02:55:57] Unknown:
illiterate people are pretty freaking smart.
[02:56:00] Unknown:
Well, I think this is aimed at foreign drivers, like, South Of The border, and they come in and they're doing all kind of stuff that's not safe or legal. And when they're stopped, then they're often got alcohol on their breath and can't speak English and aren't in compliance with anything. And, anyway so I I don't see it as a bad thing in that way, but yet it's tyranny, but we've asked for it.
[02:56:25] Unknown:
However Oh, but those laws don't or those rules don't apply to them because they aren't in their jurisdiction.
[02:56:34] Unknown:
Right. However
[02:56:38] Unknown:
But if they have a license from here, they would be.
[02:56:45] Unknown:
Well, some of them, they just have a Mexican license.
[02:56:52] Unknown:
Well, you know, they're gonna have fun enforcing it anyway. It'll make them shake a little bit and think about being drunk and driving like an idiot.
[02:57:00] Unknown:
Well, yeah, they are gonna have trouble enforcing it, but stupid people are gonna let them get away with it. I mean, I see violations of the fifth amendment to the constitution against self self incrimination. I see that all day long just in that one little video.
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The ratification of the constitution was a violation of the constitution itself, period.
[02:57:28] Unknown:
And the constitution was illegal at the time and a
[02:57:32] Unknown:
fraud. Mhmm.
[02:57:35] Unknown:
Hey, Paul?
[02:57:36] Unknown:
Yeah?
[02:57:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Larry.
[02:57:39] Unknown:
So You're not going to Arkansas. These these
[02:57:44] Unknown:
these laws they're enforcing that there's a requirement to speak English if you're driving a commercial vehicle. They were already in place long ago. They're just enforcing them now. If you look up CFR paragraph three nine one point one one b two, that's from 2016. This requirement was well, it's not that was from 2016, but in 2016, this requirement was outlined in that particular code or regulation I just gave. There was a period where inspectors were directed not to place drivers out of service for violations of these English language proficiency requirements, but this policy was rescinded.
The White House has confirmed that the requirement to read English is now being enforced enforced. So there's a lot of people coming down on Trump, but these these requirements were already there in federal law. It's about time.
[02:58:45] Unknown:
I'm coming down on Arkansas. That's who I'm coming out coming down on. Because Arkansas completely screwed, Sherry. And I'll come down on Alabama because Mike Nail had the the same experience. And I'm coming down on New Jersey because if they could have gotten a word in edgewise, they would have done exactly the same thing to Joe Lusticka.
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Comment.
[02:59:15] Unknown:
Yeah, Joe.
[02:59:18] Unknown:
Don't you think that these enforcements that they're doing on the reading and language issue is one means they're using a deportation, the illegals that have come here. You know, the the judiciary has thrown such stumbling blocks in the way of, should I say, legitimate deportation. They're kind of I shouldn't say grasping at straws, but they're using every means possible to expedite some of these deportations. And you know there's a lot of them, and there's a lot of the commercial drivers. You get on Interstate 35, and there's a lot of those commercial drivers can't even read English, much less speak it.
[03:00:12] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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And that is a that is a public health hazard.
[03:00:19] Unknown:
Right.
[03:00:20] Unknown:
And I don't care what color y'all.
[03:00:24] Unknown:
You don't care what?
[03:00:25] Unknown:
I don't care what color you are or where you came from. You know, it had yeah. No. If you can't read, you can't well, I shouldn't say now, but you used to not be able to get even a, operator's driver's license if you couldn't read.
[03:00:43] Unknown:
Right.
[03:00:44] Unknown:
How do you read the the the signage?
[03:00:48] Unknown:
Well, they, they let that ship sail when, they started allowing translators when people are doing the written tests.
[03:01:00] Unknown:
That's how you get full employment is you give everybody a job. It's time people go to work.
[03:01:19] Unknown:
Well, I do believe
[03:01:21] Unknown:
let's see. Is that for economic productivity?
[03:01:29] Unknown:
Well, actually, yeah, 5 or 5 or $10,000 fine. Yeah. That'd that'd fill the coffers pretty quickly, especially in the Southeast. Important to,
[03:01:41] Unknown:
Paul, do you know why it's important to be able to read and drive a commercial vehicle? Because a lot of times, the drivers are transporting what's known as hazardous materials. And a lot of these hazardous materials cannot be mixed because if you're to get in an accident and, like, say, water got on one particular hazardous material class, it can cause an explosion instantly. And if these drivers are not able to read and they're at their shippers getting loaded and they have some other hazardous item on their their vehicle, there's a potential for great harm with, the motoring public out there.
And so they gotta be able to read the the paperwork and find out, you know, the description and what these what these materials are.
[03:02:35] Unknown:
In the testing, you can find out whether they know their stuff or not. You know? They have to read the test. So they're gonna be able to read the paperwork and everything if they can read that test and pass it. Unless
[03:02:53] Unknown:
the state unless the state testing facility allows translators, during the written test. They do allow that. Minnesota does. I don't know if they do it anymore, but it it makes perfect sense that if this person is supposed to be able to read and write English, You could verify that they can read and write English by refusing them a translator and just letting them read the test. If they fail the test, they failed the damn test. Hello? Learn the language.
[03:03:32] Unknown:
Hey. You're gonna have a translator riding with you in your truck telling you what the road signs say?
[03:03:38] Unknown:
Exactly. If the translator is not gonna be riding shotgun, then, there shouldn't be a translator in the testing facility. I'm sorry, Brent. Go ahead.
[03:03:50] Unknown:
Well, during the test, if you don't have a translator and they fail the test, then they don't have to pay a fine, and they don't have to go to jail.
[03:03:59] Unknown:
Right. Simple. And they don't get to securitize and they don't get to find them. They don't get to steal all their stuff. They don't get to impound the truck, and they don't get to securitize their incarceration. Wow. That's why they don't wanna stop them before they get behind the wheel. They want them to kill somebody first.
[03:04:24] Unknown:
So to go along with what I just said, I think the main concern is the hazmat materials that's being transported. They have to be able to read the paperwork. That hazmat test is given every four years, and it's a requirement under federal law. If you have a commercial driver's license, you have to go down to the DMV and have that renewed and you hit it's like 60 questions, and you have to be able to pass that. And you only you're only allowed to take that test so many times, and then I guess you gotta wait or something like that. I've always passed my test every time, you know? But Yeah. I think that's where the concern is. Not necessarily reading a stop sign or yield sign or whatever.
[03:05:09] Unknown:
Right.
[03:05:10] Unknown:
I would say that do not enter one way is pretty damned important.
[03:05:19] Unknown:
Right.
[03:05:21] Unknown:
And if they can't read that, they have no I don't care if you're foreigner or domestic. You have no business on the road if you can't read it.
[03:05:33] Unknown:
Back in '82 when I got back from Japan, it was, like, two weeks after I got back, I ended up riding on the wrong side of the road.
[03:05:51] Unknown:
I saw a truck I saw a truck going the wrong way in the center median in, on I 80 in Pennsylvania, and he did exactly the same thing. And the problem with Pennsylvania, you know, going up over snowshoe and stuff, Mhmm. It could be 10 miles between exits. But if you're going the wrong way, you better be really good at backing up.
[03:06:22] Unknown:
Oh, I had gotten on, the wrong side of well, not in the wrong side of the freeway, but the frontage road or whatever. And I quickly corrected myself.
[03:06:34] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Right. But Well, if you slide your, if you slide your tandems all the way up and you, crank your cab just to the point where the, the rubber on the, airfoil on the back of the cab is just about ready to touch the trailer, You can do a one eighty on a two lane with two shoulders. It will work because I have had to do it. There was an accident, and they closed the road. And the cops were, directing us to turn around and go back the other way. Are you telling us you can't read, Paul? I can read.
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Just tasing, jamming.
[03:07:31] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. I can read. I can dance too, but not very well. Just saying. Had to drill a hole in my cigarette. I will. Alright. Well, we've talked about all kinds of fun things on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, and I think it's about time to take the take the, stream down
[03:08:08] Unknown:
because Oh, can I do one thing before you do? I since it's still up and I have the links in the chats for the Fenton Bible. If you go to Yandex, y a n d e x, then you'll find about everything you wanna know there. And, when right when Brent was talking about audio version, I was looking at a site called Librivox, l I b r I v o x. And so I sent that to him, but, it and it's in like I said in both chats, this information, but there's there's lots of sources for PDFs and, you know, free PDFs and audio and stuff. So I yield. Thank you. Okay. And you put that,
[03:08:48] Unknown:
yep. Librivox, l e b r I v 0 x, Club. Cool.
[03:08:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. Dot club. Great.
[03:08:58] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:09:00] Unknown:
Groovy. Okay. Well, I guess, we have put yet another episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Seals to bed. This is Wednesday, 05/14/2025. For more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrixdocs.com. And for, access to the archives, the transcripts, and the AI generated show notes, just click on the Global Voice Network tab on the matrixdocs.com. Thanks so much for joining us. You can find us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer. Global Voice Network tends to pull the, little bit of the art, the after show into the program.
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[03:10:15] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Broadcast Networks
Discussion on Trump's Political Moves
Historical Anecdotes and Political Commentary
Controversial Views on Israel and Politics
Debate on Hate and Political Strategy
Historical Context of Jewish Influence
Listener Interaction and Questions
Discussion on Birthright Citizenship
The Sixties Social Revolution
Passport Applications and Legal Advice
Revocation of Election and Tax Discussion
Churches and Tax Exemption
Religious Holidays and Historical Accuracy
Genealogical and Historical Insights
Technology and Personal Computing History
Language Requirements for Commercial Drivers
