In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles delves into a variety of topics, focusing on the concept of freedom and the intricacies of political status in the United States. The discussion touches on historical legal cases such as Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson, exploring their implications on modern citizenship and civil rights. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's political status and the historical context of laws that have shaped the current system. He also highlights the significance of the 1954 Internal Revenue Code and its connection to the Brown v. Board of Education decision.
Additionally, the episode features a conversation about the controversial topic of methylene blue, its uses, and the public's perception of it. Roger also shares insights into the complexities of the American legal system, the role of affidavits, and the hidden layers of citizenship status. The show includes a segment on a conversation between John Rich and former President Trump regarding public reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine, providing a glimpse into the political dynamics and public sentiment surrounding the issue. Listeners are encouraged to explore these topics further and consider their implications on personal freedom and societal structures.
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Here we go. We're gonna try and take another stab at it for a couple hours here on Wednesday, April. April, I was trying to figure out it rang a bell, and then I remembered that it's April 19 that's the big day. Got about ten days away from that. Roger Sales, your host. Radio Ranch, the, title, label, name of our little get together here. We do this little two hour thing six days a week for your freedom, y o u r, your freedom. And, we have some people that assist us. They certainly do. They're extending our reach on a number of different other platforms. We certainly want to recognize them and give them credit where credit is due.
Don't we, Paul? Yes. Absolutely.
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Alright. Yes. Because sometimes you might need to pack a late late night snack around here occasionally. Oh, yeah. So you gotta get rid of those program yeah. You we these people used to stay up and burn the wee end of the candle, folks. In the middle of the night, they did. So I don't know if they still do. They probably still do occasionally. So what? We actually had three rooms going last night.
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Three? We had three rooms last night, and they were connect they were interconnected right up to about twenty after two in the morning. I'm I'm And then I I said I gotta go to bed.
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I'm telling you, if you're sitting around with insomnia and you can't think of anything else, just dial into the old FCC. Might surprise you. Paul was asking me how I was doing. I said, man, I'm doing good. I'm getting my second my my ethylene, methylene blue in. That's how I have to remember ethyl methyl, like ethyl. And so, I was feeling better. And Paul said, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna take it. Well, you know, I was asking you, Paul, do you know what really kicked this into high gear? Not only with Jones, it may it may have been that Chase Geyser is the one that really him and him and Harrison kind of found it and stumbled into it, and everything's developed from there. But, or so I understand.
But, the thing that really kicked it off, maybe even internationally, because it is a rage at this point, was that somebody did a video and caught Robert Kennedy on a plane taking a glass of water and taking two two shots of methylene blue. And they put that out on the web and well, you you can make your own decision off that. So anyway, this is so interesting as you hear more and more people talk about it. Of course, it's somebody plugged Wikipedia the other day. Said even Wikipedia has got a bunch of stuff on it that, is in it seems accurate.
Been around for hundred and fifty five years, and there's really not too much written on it, evidently. I would think that this company, the the one that Jones buys his from, and it's evidently very, very strong, is, an undiluted, is the one that supplies most of the medical industry. The medical industry uses this stuff quite frequently, evidently, when they're probing with dyes to try and find a part of your body, it's used in cancer treatment too, by the way. The first time I heard of that was when, Bo, who was our guy? The the the guy well, I can't remember his name. Our Hollywood Star out there that did Jesus and all that stuff, Catholic guy, Patriot, movie, and Gibson, Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson. Yeah.
And he was on Rogan, and he's just talking in the interview. And he says, oh, by the way, I have four of my real clear close friends with stage four cancer are all cured. And he named off a litany of ivermectin and whatever, and methylene blue was in there. That's really the first time it kind of caught my attention that I remember. But yes, evidently, it has some very adverse reaction on cancer cells. It, is the antidote for cyanide poisoning. It may be the only one. I don't know, but it does reverse cyanide poisoning. That's pretty serious. Carbon dioxide poisoning also.
Do what? Well, okay. Carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah. Okay. These are the things that it does. So, I don't hear a bunch of people coming forward and going, god, you fool me. That stuff is is killing me. Well, I haven't seen any of that. Okay. So, anyway, that's my decision. I'm I'm 76 years old. If it ruins a few synopses or something, that's okay. It makes you feel good. But, I see the stuff as pretty miraculous, actually. So don't know. We'll find out more about it as it goes forward. Obviously, it's gonna start getting studied a lot more.
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But you you don't hear Well, I hope so.
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Suspect. I hope so. That one. Well,
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we'll see. My take on it my take on it, okay, is, yes, it's been around for a very long time, but it is, petrochemical. It was actually, in its its base state. Its original state is in powder form. So all of the, like, little dropper bottles, they are diluted, like, in solutions between 13%. But, I'm looking at it as, yes. It has a medicinal value in specific cases, but, I'm also seeing reports that chronic daily use of it is could be a bad thing. It could be. It could not be. Okay? But then I look at the exposure in the marketplace. Okay? You go to Amazon. You've got 50 different manufacturers.
Dozens dozens of places where you can get Methylene Blue. You go to Google and you do a search on Methylene Blue, and you have five pages of uses, benefits, and all this happy stuff. This is Google. Alright? Okay. Try doing the same thing with, hydroxychloroquine. You're gonna find five pages of things where Google is telling you, oh, that's bad for you. Don't take that. You know? So if you if you Google something that you know is good for you because you found it in many, many, many sources, Google is gonna be telling you the opposite thing. I would bet you Snopes would say that that hydroxychloroquine
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is a bad thing. You know? You know, horse based Well, I'm gonna leave it. Okay. Well, it's a it's a rage, and Paul's got his opinion. I got mine. And, you probably have yours, but it's out there, and you do whatever you want, but it damn sure makes you feel better. Yes. Hold on just a second, Julie. And, all of the others that you were citing on Amazon and stuff, the one that Jones is selling is the master one that sells to all the medical people, evidently. And they said that all the other people water theirs down and that theirs is not. So also Right. If they're behind that on that biggest scale of Jones' platform, if there was anything real negative about it, they'd be putting disclaimers out.
You bet your ass. Well, here's
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what I'm saying. If I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Disputing. I'm not disputing its medicinal value in specific cases and in limited dose. But there are people that are taking thirty, forty drops of this stuff every day. That's ridiculous. It's a pound Okay. Of it's a pound of cure when an ounce of prevention would be necessary. Okay. Alright. Doctor Paul says
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ounce of prevention, pound of cure. What does doctor Julie say?
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Well, the first pharmaceutical drug ever developed was methylene blue. It's a toxic chemical, and this comes from, doctor Ariana Love, who's a dear friend of mine. The toxic chemical that was manufactured in 1876 as a synthetic textile dye, to dye fabrics, clothing, papers, and leathers. Right. That's what it was. Yeah. It it who's behind this is the Rockefeller Institute. Anything with Rockefeller on it is, in my opinion, not good. But, you know, they they use it in, you know, Africa, poor countries and stuff as a treatment for malaria and gonorrhea because they can't afford any other treatment. But, I know that some people have reported that it makes them feel good. So, they're I don't know. I would not take it.
But, you know, like he said, we we all make our own decisions. We got free will. Free will. To your own.
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Well, I'm waiting to see the multitudes come forward and show how how harmful it is to them and give testimonials. So we'll wait on that. I'd like to see a little bit. I,
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I highly recommend, if you're not feeling so well, is find yourself a place where you can, get an infrared sauna treatment because Yeah. That's that is incredible.
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I yield. Well, I may, yeah, may combine real well with this. So you don't know. Anyway, it's out there. It's popular. I'm, I'm taking it and, loving it and endorse it, and these other folks around here have apprehensions, and that's good. But I would think if there was negative stuff there, you'd see much more of that on a much wider scale. Time will tell. So, good morning, everybody. I hope everybody's doing good on the ninth. You got a comment on that, somebody?
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Yeah. One more quick point. One more quick point. I mean, the the chronic use, daily use, that's kind of a new thing. There aren't really any long term studies on on that. And No. We don't. What it does is it supercharges the serotonin, levels in your brain. But, I'm looking at that as, it's a hormone modifier. And anytime that you you start messing with the body's hormone balance, you're actually teaching the body to get lazy because it doesn't have to work so hard to make serotonin or melatonin, because there here comes this magic booster thing. It's kinda like energy drinks and caffeine.
You know? The the body doesn't have to race its metabolism because it knows you're gonna reach for a monster energy drink less than six minutes after you wake up. I'm thinking that if if you have a day where you're feeling blue, okay, if you have a day that you're feeling sluggish, okay, grab the methylene blue, put a few drops in a glass of water, drink it down. Okay? It'll brighten your day, but don't do it chronically. Otherwise, you're gonna you may have daily repetitive blue days where you have to supplement your serotonin with methylene blue. And, I'm Well, thank you.
Anything anything, even no matter how good or how bad it is in moderation is not earth shattering. Just make your own decision.
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But also the other things that I have heard that it does is it straightens out, your mitochondria. There's mitochondria malfunctions, and that's part of the that's the energy engine of the cell, and that it corrects, not only mitochondrial dysfunctions, but also, toxins and gets toxins out. So we'll see as we go forward. I like the stuff myself, and, makes my life a little bit better at my age. I love I love it. For $10 a bottle, $10 a bottle is what I'm paying for it from our dock down here. It's made in Columbia. Probably not as strong as what Alex is selling.
Now, mister g, you called me yesterday. I tried to call you back, and neither one of us connected. How are you doing this morning?
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Okay. It was, I was looking for a solution. My wife, doesn't have a thyroid because of thyroid cancer. She had to have it removed. And, we were looking for some way to get her the armor natural thyroid medicine because the artificial, the synthetic stuff was just making her really mad.
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So There's some stuff called found a solution. Call call Lugar or Lugan or something that is for that?
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Well, it's called it's called either NP or Armour or thyroid. Okay. Well, I may be I may be wrong, but there's some stuff that's called Lube. Here, you gotta have a here, you gotta have a prescription for it. And these Really? These crappy doctors, they won't prescribe it. They said, oh, no. You gotta use the synthetic stuff, and she just doesn't react well to it. So but we we think we found a doctor locally that will, that will take care of her for it. So I was calling you just to see if you if anybody on the on the show might know, because I know a lot of people are into natural stuff and, you know, but she is she's a she's a naturalist and, Yeah. Yeah. She tries to put it out. As much as you can with natural. Yeah.
And, so I think we can handle yeah. Okay. You found Well, she's not a really bad I think we're okay. Yeah. We think so. Yeah. A DO. And then you were talking about this methyl methyl, methylene blue. Yeah. It kinda sounds like the stuff we used in the military was called, we called it MEK, but it was methyl ethyl ketone. And that stuff, if you weren't using you know, if you got around it when you weren't using a respirator, then we used it for painting aircraft and whatnot for diluting, the the paint that they used. That stuff would put you it would put you on cloud nine fast and, you know, we have to be really careful around it.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe it's same stuff. And then no. No. And then the hydroxychloroquine when I worked in the, when I worked for the CDC in the malaria lab, on the on the phone, on the meth in the, in the malaria lab, we had to take hydroxychloroquine every single day because Sure. We were working around, mosquitoes that may have had malaria. So, and then they're they're bothering me. They took it for months at a time and never had any side effects. So it's not surprising. It's probably one of the safest drugs out there.
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Surprised they didn't make you start drinking gin and gin and tonics every day. You may wanna check into it. I'm not sure of all of the, things that it's supposed to affect, but you may wanna look into it, Tom. It's, pretty interesting stuff. It's unusual because I've never heard of it all all, you know, all the time and then boom, all of a sudden, it just comes out of left field. Evidently, there we'll find out. I just don't know a lot about it other than what I hear. But I can't imagine Jones or this company that supplies all the medical field, if there were, would you say, black box warning things to be said about it, I would think you'd be hearing it because they would be covering their ass for liability.
And you haven't heard any of that. As you say, go consult your your doctor if, a, you're on prescription drugs, and, and I think it has something to also do with niacin, but not sure. Haven't done the studies. Like I said, I'm not taking any prescription drugs or any of that stuff. I'm 76.
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I'm in pretty good health all in all of that. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah.
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And, so I figure I got a good ten or fifteen years left. Hell, man. I'm a go out with a bang if this stuff makes you feel this this good. So each to their own. Yeah. The only thing the reason I take here, I take it every two months. I take a shot for,
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I have a I have, a cinephilic asthma, which is high in cinephiles, which basically is an overload of white blood cells in my in my lungs. And for for years, we, you know, talked to the doctors. Hey. What about this? What about this? And they just wouldn't you know, they never tried it, and then we moved to Texas and found a allergist who we brought it to their attention, showed them my blood work. And, he said, well, let's give it a shot. You know? I'm doing no no pun intended. And, it's called Fasenra, and I take a shot every two months. And it took it got rid of about ninety ninety five percent of my asthma symptoms. No. That's good. Just unbelievable.
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Yeah. I hearken back to recently two years ago when the wand came along. Remember how pan how Jeff Rents panned the wand? Oh, god. It's gonna kill people. Leave them laying on the side of the road. Anybody had any damage from the wand? Oh, well. By the way, I had a very interesting experience yesterday, Tom. It kinda rejuvenated my faith in mankind and, especially Ecuadorians. I've got a couple of wands down here that I've had and let different people use them for different things. And one of our our favorite gals, they're a younger couple. They're in their forties and lived in Atlanta and just nice as they can be. And, she's one of those girls that was raised around brothers and a real strong father figure, you know, and just, like, fits in real good with the with the guys, you know. And she's a sweetie, but she's got, edema in her feet, which her feet are swelling and to feeling like they're sticking her with pins or something.
And so, anyway, I had the, an extra wand over at the docks where I've been going over and getting drips and buying this stuff. And so I went over there, got vitamin c and DMHO on Monday and to get specifically to get the wand so I could bring it to her the next day at lunch. So yesterday, I'm really excited about being able to get it to her because she's been real miserable with it, not herself at all. And, and I think this was Kathy's, John John's ex partner, Kathy, that has passed. This was her first problem. Somebody got her a wand because she had a demon in her feet, and it just, boom, took care of it very quickly. So anyway, I'm anxious to get that over there to her yesterday, and I leave after visiting with you guys for a few hours and, get in the cab, get a nice cab driver. It's about a $2.50 cab ride over there. And I gave him $3 to get a little propina is the word in Spanish for tip. And so, he was thrilled about that, and I got out of the cab to go into this, place where we eat and gather and damned if I didn't leave the damn wand in the cab. And I'm so busy thinking about giving him a tip and getting out of the car and all that, and I just did boom spaced it right there on the on the blasted seat, and I walked out. Well, after I cut shut the door and he took off, I mean, I didn't take two steps before I realized what I'd done. And by that time, it's downhill, and he's gone.
I'm thinking, oh, man. And, mad at myself feeling, you know, really bad. Like, you you know, when you get nervous or upset, there's three times more nerve endings in your stomach, in your gut there than there are in your brain. And that's why people's, stomach gets in knots as your brain is throwing off all that pressure down there and letting your belly handle it. Well, I was having that kind of a reaction. I was so mad at myself, and I'll be damned if in about ten minutes, the cab driver didn't come back looking around the restaurant trying to find me and brought the wand back. I tried to give him $20 twice, and he wouldn't take a penny.
So I thought that I've had a couple of incidents like that happen down here, and I was, quite pleased. As I said, it re, reinvigorated my faith in humanity a little bit. So now we've talked about methylene blue, and we've done all that stuff. We've eaten up about twenty something minutes of the show. Good morning, folks. The show's really about you and your freedom. We just get off on these other topics occasionally because they're lab topical or interesting or have general applicability to our, audience. So, we got any new folks here today that might have questions or what? I know I got William's email, so I did return that this morning, William, and put you in touch with our buddy Bob over there in Okeechobee who likes to know all the people in South Florida that join our group.
I would love to see all you know, we've got one of our students is a, we haven't heard from him in a while, like Lauren, but he owns a Greek restaurant over in Tarpon Springs. And, boy, if you could all get, something cooked up where you could meet at his restaurant, I'll bet you'd have a wonderful time and get a dynamite Greek meal. But Chris is down there now, retired out in Nashville and, all those folks. So welcome to you. Did somebody have a comment there a second ago? Roger. Yeah. Yeah, Roger. That was Hey, though. Me. I,
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Oh, okay. I just wanted to say that if you're getting energy out of this, you know, the the methylene blue, is a precursor for, like, I don't know if your blood is real bright red. But there's a either. There's a disorder where the blood starts to get browner, and it's not carrying enough oxygen. And what the methane blue does is it helps you carry more oxygen. It's a precursor to it. It's not Yeah. Directly responsible for it. Mhmm. Uh-huh.
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Okay. Well, that's good to find the information. Mention that. Thank you. I mean, if it was real harmful, there'd be people already saying something about you'd be hearing a squawk all over the place and alerts out of the whoever.
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Larry, good morning. Good morning. I was just gonna say, you'll be glad to know that, your old friend, Brent, was burning the midnight oil in the middle of the afternoon, and he had a conversation with William and Tony for, like, three hours. They're pretty interesting people, and, they, they just talked about a lot of different subjects. So they're definitely not wet behind the ears.
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Okay. Fantastic. Well, we're well tickled to death to have them, and, we love new people coming in just for Brenton and and not Brent, Tony and William's sake. The reason for that is because of what my, our, particularly my law teacher, John Benson, used to say from the podium up there when he was teaching and and giving those seminars, and he'd say, the only way that I can protect my liberty is to help you protect yours. Now that's a real simple, straightforward, pretty hard to, not understand that, that statement, and we, we want love to see new people come because you strengthen our position.
And the more of us that we get understanding this, and that's why I stress the educational side of this. I don't this ain't a paper deal. Well, okay. What do I do next? What step next? Oh, okay. And they're gonna go off and file their paperwork, and we'll never hear from them again. Here's the problem with that. Or paying somebody to do this for you. If you pay somebody to do this for you or it's just a step by step, I got no skin in the game, then nothing changes. Oh, yeah. You've got a piece of paper in, but you don't know enough and understand enough to know what it's done for you. If somebody came up to those people that paid David Strait four hundred dollars for that 31 page thing, well, exactly what is this? How's it operating? What does it do for you and why? Well, they're gonna look at you like you got a third eye. They don't know. They paid somebody a pretty good little sum of money for my $400. Ain't the end of the world, but it's, you know, you go get a couple nice meals on it. And so you pay him $400 He he gives you this 31 page thing. You send it in.
You don't know why. You don't understand stuff. His stuff's real complicated. And here's the real kicker, is nothing changes. The the world doesn't change when you do this. I mean, your neighbors aren't gonna come up and congratulate you. The the people, the cops aren't gonna stop you on the side of the road for some go, oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah. You filed an affidavit. So go on. Everything's alright. None none of that stuff's gonna happen. Okay? So if there's gonna be change, which is what I'm here for, I'm I'm here. My goal is to affect change in this world, and I think we can do it. This is a powerful medicine, but it's also very hard to present to people for a myriad of reasons. Regardless, if you don't learn the information, then nothing changes except the money you paid, the the currency pardon me.
I should follow my own rule. Right? The the currency that you paid me left your account and it came to mine. That was the change. You never learned anything. So, if if some of your friends go, well, well, Frank, what did you do that that is so important here? You go, I don't know. I gave this guy $400. I listened to a bunch of confusing stuff. I never understood any of it, and I think I'm free, but I don't really know. Well, that's no good. You're not influencing anything. You're not affecting anything. So that's why I stress learn the information. The information is the key to your freedom here. The better you get this internalized and you understand it, and if somebody asks you a question, you can turn around and snap answer them. When you get to that point, you're really free.
But if you don't learn the information and you can't defend your position, well, you ain't got Jack Doodly Squad. K? And and if that's right, then you can't explain it to anybody. You don't understand it yourself. You can't defend it if you're challenged. You if this thing crashes and Trump's little plan goes astray here, where this message is gonna be need to to be out there so that we can correct the mistakes that allowed it to happen in the first damn place. So it's very important. That's why I don't charge you for for this. It's one of the reasons. I want you you're gonna pay me, but you pay me by internalizing the information and living it. Because if you're gonna be free, you really wanna be free, you gotta live it. And you can't live it and truly be free unless you know the information, can you?
No. You can't. Roger? Yes.
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Thomas? Is that Thomas? Quick comment. No. I had a quick comment for Tom and his wife. He's looking for a natural therapy or Oh, well, that'd be
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Right.
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Look up, urine therapy.
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Okay. Urine therapy, Tom. You can substitute your methylene blue. Yep. You can substitute your methylene blue with your urine. Or if you wanna IV or methylene blue, you might can get both. Roger. Because you will pee blue for a couple of days. Yes.
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Yeah. One of the things I learned about William is he's a reader. He's got, like, 6,000 books, and he loves to read. Right. And, one of the things he he wants to know is if you say something to him, he wants to know he wants you to back it up with the source. Jack. And, I'll you know, maybe you could remind the audience how everything that you've been going over for. I can't remember how many years you say it's never been rebutted.
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Not one. I mean, I've never had one fact because these are facts that I'm putting forth. Okay. This is my conclusion or a conclusion or the conclusion, and here's where we source it. And that's why I always give you guys the, the sources. And I agree with William, you know. But never one time in all these years has anything been rebutted, or I might give a guy you know, we used to have Murr around here with the pronunciation police. And if you pronounced anything according to the police wrong, boy, they rode right into town and corrected you. But outside of that, we hadn't had, you know, too much of a date wrong or a name wrong or a place wrong, but nothing substantial.
And neither so with John. I mean, you know? So I remind you again, I think I told William and Tony this when they first popped up here. This isn't Roger's opinion. I I would never know this and understand it had it not been for John Benson knowing all this old law and me being very dedicated as to wanting to find out what's wrong in the world and why it works that way. So you're looking at over the result of what you're presented with here is mainly the research of, three men, John, Glenn, myself, over a hundred years' worth of our lives, our adult lives. The most important part of it, three men's lives spent researching this stuff trying to understand it.
Yeah. And, you know, I think we've got it down better than anybody else in the world on our side, anyway. Nobody ever knew there was a feudal system even though the hints are everywhere. Okay? You can look at Colonel House's message found with Woodrow Wilson's possessions. We will yield secure them by utilizing the ancient pledge. Okay. What's the ancient pledge? Well, it's feudalism. Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope where he had access to the CFR's internal papers for two years to write his book. And he said the, the leaders of the world's financial system met in regular secret sessions and fashioned the world economy in a feudalist type system. That's Carole Quigley. He had access to the damn records.
We don't hear anybody say, well, I think pretty much, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're gonna have the world financial system fashioned in a feudalist system, you're pretty well gonna need some serves. I'm pretty sure. K? So it's everywhere where you look, but nobody ever put it together before. And that was the brilliance of these people all these many years ago setting this up like they did. I I think this plan I think this plan, Larry, was cooked up, if not, then at least in the eighteen fifties. Maybe before that, but certainly then. Yeah. What you got, Larry?
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Yeah. To go along with that, in case Tony and William are listening or any other new students, Please explain the caliber of men John and Glenn were, as far as how Glenn was able to win some very important court cases. He wrote some type of, brief. Glenn
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is amazing. And John was too, but he was not necessarily a writer. Glenn's the writer. Glenn's, hola. Glenn's, statement about John was if John were to write a book, it would be one continuous sentence from the front cover to the back cover. And and but Glenn's a excellent legal writer writer in general, but excellent. The reason my book is the caliber book it is because Glenn and John, they collaborated on it realizing what we had. Glenn won a case at the Supreme Court when he was in prison for another inmate. And the the you have to file a certiori through an attorney, I guess.
And, so they had found he wrote the case, got the the situation, wrote the case, and they found an attorney in North or South Dakota. I forget which one. Anyway, he, submitted the case to the Supreme Court. They won, and the state bar gave him a big plaque that was on the wall behind his desk and the so and so, was the only attorney in the history of the state to ever win a case with the Supreme Court. And the attorney goes, well, hell, I didn't even write it. So, Glay had, they wrote, another Rico case for a inmate friend of his, guy he's still hanging around with up there in the Dakotas, used to own a big trucking outfit somewhere in the Midwest, and the Teamsters, screwed him out of it and got him thrown in jail somehow.
And, so, he met Glenn. They they wrote this RICO case, and, the opposing attorney came, flew all the way up there to the facility in Northern Minnesota and offered them $3,000,000 to, to make it go away, and they refused. I don't know whatever eventually happened with it, but Glenn's exceptional too. I imagine that probably either Tony or William have heard of a guy named Roger Staubach, famous Dallas Cowboys. He wrote won the Heisman trophy at Annapolis and went on to Nice to meet you. Set records in the NFL that probably still stand. Well, Glenn tutored him through Annapolis. They were in Annapolis at the same time, and Glenn literally tutored him to the Heisman Trophy.
And the reason I know that is when I was going through the course, one of his Annapolis classmates was going through their guy named Tim, and he's the one that told me all that stuff. Glenn's very modest about it. I know when, Trump gave Roger Staubach the medal of honor here in that last term, and Glenn said, you think he'd let me wear it for a little bit? So both very interesting folks, highly dedicated, highly intelligent, and, as I said, they knew or should have known. If they would have known about us filing that affidavit with the secretary of state back in the nineties, we may live in a different country right now. That's how powerful that is in the scope of the history of what happened. Somebody was clearing their voice. Did you have something to add? Was that you, Larry?
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Hi, Roger.
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Look at there. Is wait. Hold it. You're throwing me for a loop. I'm a have to do is this pretty? Is it pretty? Robbie. Oh, okay. Hello, Robbie. How you doing, miss Good morning. Hanging in? Well, you don't come around enough for me to recognize your voice. So, yeah, you're going with you. You got some great I'm always listening.
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Yeah. I'm always listening. However, I can't sit at my computer. I'm too my grandfather used to call me switch o britches, you know, because I don't sit still. It's still very long. But I heard something very interesting. Everybody will be very interested in. Now we all we a lot of us know about this musician, this country guy. John Rich. Right?
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I saw him interviewed the other day briefly.
[00:38:45] Unknown:
Oh, well, I well, I posted in the chat, and I can send it to you a full podcast in which he was at a dinner with Donald Trump. Yes. Correct. Donald Trump asked him, the question, why do people boo at me at my rallies because of the vaccines?
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Robin Robin, let's get it in our time frame correct. This is after his first term and when he was running in the interim before he got elected the second time, it was in that middle time frame that this happened. Go ahead.
[00:39:18] Unknown:
Okay. And I I would be very grateful if I could play this six minute clip for you where you can hear Donald Trump response to John's, answer. And I just I'm just blown away by this John Rich. He is just one powerful guy. As I say, I did post the podcast I did post the podcast in the chat, but let me just play this and see if you can hear it. Hold on a second.
[00:39:43] Unknown:
I don't know if we'll be able to hear that. We'll find out, Paul. Well, yeah. Let me know. I did see I see I saw the comment yesterday. Play it and see if it's audible.
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Okay.
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God bless you. They will try to kill you with treatment. Nah. I can't hear it enough.
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Paul But hold on hold on a second. He's Young rich went sat down with the president.
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Well, president Trump was proud.
[00:40:09] Unknown:
Well, if you put the link in the chat, I'll grab it, and I'll Okay. Paul's gonna grab it, Rob. You can't hear that. It's very, inaudible over the air Yeah. To get get messages like that played. But I can tell you, Paul, get it and be looking for it. And, it he's a bit he's evidently pretty big time musician. Right? The country guy or what?
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Yeah. Country guy. Well, Paul, I can send you a link where the exact timing is because it's, you know, it's over an hour. Tell him tell him what time your your
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what you're gonna play for us is at. You can put the cursor there and give him a time.
[00:40:48] Unknown:
Okay. Paul? Hello, Paul? Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh. I this is from another not that podcast, but another podcast where I heard it from, and then I found the full podcast. So I'm gonna send you the link. Should I send you the link or post it in the chat? Send me the link to the time offset where it starts.
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Okay. I'll do that. Where the where the spot that you're referring to starts. And
[00:41:14] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's from coach it's from coach Dave. If if anybody knows about coach Dave Daubenmire. Don't He is tremendous.
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Okay. You got how are you gonna send that to him, Robin?
[00:41:26] Unknown:
I'm gonna send him an email. Yeah. Okay. And it's Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll I'll fill this It's Ken.
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It's 21 chat in FCC.
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Oh, yes. I can. It's twenty one minutes to twenty seven minutes, and I'll post that in the chat right now. Okay. Put that. Paul can get it pretty quickly, and we'll get the team sync up there.
[00:41:48] Unknown:
Yes, Larry.
[00:41:50] Unknown:
Yeah. While they're looking that up, I just wanna know, Sandra from California brought this information for last night that the acting commissioner, Melanie Cross, k r a u s e, she resigned, and so now they don't have a commissioner at the IRS. So within just a few short months, three commissioners resigned. You got Orfel and then O'Donnell and now Cross. Good. Just FYI.
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That's good. They're not gonna Hey, Roger. Setting them up and knocking them down. And that is Waheed. Are you in the bathroom, Waheed?
[00:42:30] Unknown:
No. No. No. I haven't started work yet, but I left something from Catherine Jane Catherine Austin Fitts in the chat. Catherine Austin Fitts has some very, deep thoughts on the new technocracy. She says it's not a technocracy. It's a new form of slavery that they're building up. Check out that in the in the chat.
[00:42:50] Unknown:
She need Catherine needs to open her mind and learn about the slavery she's been in, and we've been in for ninety two years. Then she can talk about the next slavery. Okay? Now this fellow we're gonna hear from, boy. I can't remember his name. King? Something. Evidently, I never heard of him, but I don't pay attention to music too much anymore.
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But John Rich. Pretty
[00:43:17] Unknown:
okay. John Rich. He's evidently pretty pretty famous in the country music thing, and he plays the large venues like some of those guys do. You know, they might get, $10.10, 15 thousand, something like that in a in a venue to play for. Well, of course, Trump is doing stomping around, and he's got forty, fifty plus thousand people waiting outside for hours. And, well, I won't I won't ruin the story, but that's the interchange between this country guy and Trump who really admires him. I don't know if he likes his music or whatever, must. But he's asking him and he asked him the question, why do people boo when I mention the vaccine?
Now this is for all you Trump people, you Trump haters out there. He did that fast stream thing, and he did. He's responsible for COVID. No, folks. He was lied to. They tricked him. They told him, and the reason we know this, this is not speculation. This is a fact because the great Robert Barnes, who we were talking with William and Tony about yesterday, I'll try and send you some of his stuff where you can find him, William. The great Robert Barnes picked up a whistleblower suit. It's another Key Tam. I believe it's a Key Tam suit. And, down in, Southern Texas, Brownsville or some place was the federal court, and, they forced Pfizer to release the contract in that court action.
And they promised to deliver a safe and effective vaccine and lied to him up the hill to get him on board and suckered him right in. So, you you know, I just everybody wants to dump on Trump. And, we we come back and find stuff like this right here. Everybody that fast stream thing, that vaccine, that Kobe, and he was in on it. No. He wasn't, folks. They lied to him. K. Roger. I know you wanna hate him. I know all that stuff. But but all that crap is just not right. See? And you should not use false information for any basis on your current perspectives or outlooks.
Yes, Robbie.
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Roger, having been in the the music business myself as well, I would have thought you would have enjoyed that entire podcast.
[00:45:41] Unknown:
Well, I did never seen it. I said just saw an excerpt of it on Alex Jones. I wasn't gonna go hunt it up. Oh, okay. Oh, they oh, I didn't know they played it on Alex. I'll send you the whole podcast. I think you'll like it very much. I got I got I'm sure I would, but I got more I got a line of stuff to watch that goes out to the street. K? Okay. If if you want to. Bruce
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comes up. Mister Bruce, what's going on? Alright. I'm on I'm on, change the wording here. At, 01:00 central time, the the Masters par three contest will be on.
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That's right. The Masters starts today as good as Friday.
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Week. There you go. I figured you'd like to know.
[00:46:25] Unknown:
Oh, I'll be watching on Golf Channel to see what they do. First round's tomorrow. I guess today's a practice round. Right?
[00:46:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, no. They they got a contest with the par three thing. So, anyway, I'll tell you a short story about what happened to me. We were in high school, and I had I was in the ninth grade, and one of the one of the seniors have to be a brother.
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I mean, and Johnny You got a clock. Hold on. Hold on, Bruce. You got a clock in the background. We had one. Okay. Go ahead.
[00:46:57] Unknown:
Anyway, so, they had talked about, you know, where they were accepted to go to college. They're twins. And, and I think it was Tommy that said, well, y'all won't ever guess where I'm going to school. And we said, you know, well, yeah, we don't know what you're gonna do. He said, I'm going to the international, college of golf. And we looked at him like, what the hell are you talking about? We never heard anything like that. Mhmm. Well, he went down
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and graduated. At Augusta? He was at Augusta?
[00:47:35] Unknown:
No. Okay. He ended up in Augusta with he was over the grounds. However, he was in the saw on the grounds. He had his hand in it. Okay? Even the Greeks.
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Right. Now
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he's over the masters.
[00:47:52] Unknown:
Oh, wow. Wow. Yep. Pretty cool. Good connection, Bruce. I got to get in. It is very hard to get tickets to get into that place. Oh, yeah. You know, the only two things Augusta, Georgia is famous for is the Masters and James Brown. Right? And, so, anyway, one Saturday, because of our connections, I got the press passes from the Georgia Association of Broadcasters to the masters. We drove over there and got walked in one of the back gates somewhere around Hole Number 87 or eight or something, and got to spend the whole day there on Augusta. It was a hell of an experience. Now I don't play golf, but I really like golf. And if I had a son or a daughter and was gonna try and get them into some sort of professional sports, a professional golfer would be the goal. K? That's gotta be a hell of a life, man. Going around playing the most beautiful golf courses in the world and potentially making unbelievable sums, you know, just a cool game. And, so the Masters, for some of you that don't know, while we're waiting for Paul to get this video up, was, it was a golf course. It was designed by an old one of the early greats of golf named Bobby Jones, who's from Georgia. And he found that land. They went over there and built that course. And, it's, one of the most beautiful golf courses in the world, really. And, the part of the allure to it I wonder if you know this, Bruce.
You know that when you'll see them play this week, this week, and weekend, they're playing on rye grass. Did you know that? Yep. They plant rye grass, which is a winter grass. And so after we get into the spring, the Masters turns brown. Okay? All all the fairways and everything, they're different kind of grass. And, just it's a marvelous place. So even if you don't like golf, I hope maybe you can enjoy some of the splendor of that place this weekend. It will be a hopefully good tournament.
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It's a jewel. I tell you.
[00:50:04] Unknown:
It's a cool place. I what what amazed me, Bruce, and we walked around for a whole Saturday, you never saw one piece of trash on the ground anywhere on that course. From from the 25,000 that are in there, moving from hole to hole and all that, man, people have such a reverence for that place. They absolutely do not litter. It's it's very impressive. Yes. Who who was trying to say something there?
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Well, we had an r in there and a few video queued.
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Okay. We got William. He's right there from Disgusta. Hey, William.
[00:50:42] Unknown:
Hey. What's up, buddy? Hey, listen. I, I just tagged Larry and Judy to let let you know I bought some more guests on. I have a a Hector on, and I have a Tiffany on, and I have Marshae Brown on. So I just brought some more guests on so they could kinda Okay.
[00:50:58] Unknown:
Listen in. And if they wanna ask some questions, I told them how to do it. I'm guessing. Okay. Great. Well, great, William. Good to have you. I answered your email this morning and, put you in touch with Bob and stuff. To the new folks that he just named off, welcome. If you're brand new, I don't know how what questions you might have. But if you do have any, if you feel comfortable coming forward and asking them, we'll try and address them for you. Otherwise, I highly recommend you go to the website, the matrixdocs, d 0 c s, Com, and listen to some of the interviews. There's a section there called new student section, which has got some of our better interviews. According, it's a subjective thing. But and, if you get the chance and have the time and want to get the foundation, go there's a video there called the Trading with the Enemy Act that's about thirty years old. It was a research project with nine researchers by a veterinarian in Colorado named, doctor Jean Eugene Schroeder. And, it'd been forgotten up in the closet somewhere, and It came up in conversation a couple of years, a year and a half ago. We dusted it off, and Paul ran it through and improved the audio. And if you wanna get the information in a foundational sense that buttresses what we do, then please also watch that. It's about two hours long. It's very good. He's got well, you've watched it, William, more recently. He's got 85 or 90 exhibits in there to prove his points. Oh, that's cool. And basically what happened. Yeah. It's incredible the work they did on that.
What happened is if you ever felt like, the the the government or the agents of government were against you, then you had a good suspicion because what they did was in 1917, by in World War two, they passed a trading with the enemies act legislation and named the Germans the enemy because we were fighting them. And then in 1933, when they bankrupted the country and changed the systems, they took that very same piece of legislation and brought it forward and took Germans out and put citizens of The United States in. So as of 1933, in a previously passed piece of legislation, the Trading with the Enemies Act, a citizen of The United States is openly declared as an enemy of the government.
And that's right. You're right. It's all prudent. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. So welcome, new folks. You there's a lot of information here. It's not gonna happen overnight. The change doesn't happen overnight, but takes time with most people. Take it a bite at a time and a step at a time, and I think you'll be very pleased as you get along the path. Yes, Paul? I got that video queued, and if we don't do it right now, we can't do it before we say goodbye to BOU.
[00:53:56] Unknown:
Alright. Well, go ahead. Let's see. Let's play that and get it out of the way. And, for all you Trump haters, here's a little bit of reality for you. Go ahead. God bless you that you do. They won't try to kill you with the treatment. So then you gotta get rid of that cancer. Yeah. Monday's law. Okay. I'm sorry. So John Rich went and sat down with the president because president Trump was proud of the work that he had done over COVID. And John Rich, see, what if you what if you what if you surround yourself with psych offense? In other words, people are just always telling you that you're doing the right thing, we're in your what what folks, you you you can't you can't operate in that. By the way, that's the average church. They all get together, and they got it right. They got it right.
Nobody else does they got it right. And so if you surround yourself with Paula White's, then you're gonna get Paula White's theology problem then. Right? Okay. So here we go. This is, John Rich sat down with the president, sat down with president Trump. Go ahead.
[00:54:56] Unknown:
Sitting there, and everybody's eating their food and and and president Trump is not president at this at this time, and he's talking to the senators. He's talking about really important stuff. I'm just minding my business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, okay. Sitting over the elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word. Just been listening. And Trump gets to me, and then you've seen him do this move right here. Yeah. I did wherever in the big boardroom. Yeah. That's what he does. He he goes, can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John John Rich.
[00:55:22] Unknown:
Okay. Uh-oh. Video failed to play due to technical issues. Alright. We're gonna have to finish that guy after the top of the hour while I I sort it out. This appears to be a peer tube instance, and, there aren't very many peers for it. So let me, try. Sorry, Rob. Working.
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Try. Well, I saw the little clip that that he was saying that. That's what he said. He said the question. He said, John Rich, just like he said. He said, never calls me Johnny. Calls me both names. He said, why do people boo when I bring up the vaccine? So this is Trump's naivete, ego, whatever you wanna call it. K? But this is where he got lied to and taken behind the woodshed, and these are the instances where he learns who these rotten bastards really are and what they'll do to throw a hitch in your giddy up. K? So, do you is it straight and outable, Paul, or not? Or we have to go at it another day?
[00:56:27] Unknown:
No. I'm getting a bad I'm getting a bad gateway response.
[00:56:33] Unknown:
Okay, Robbie. Sorry. So anyway, well, I wanna go back to, to the new folks that William has brought along. Any of y'all have any questions or comments? You don't have to say anything if you don't want to. If you're not comfortable, we don't bite. But, I did wanna extend a hand to you and say welcome and, see if you had any queries, comments, or any of that stuff at this point. Any of you? You don't have to say anything if you
[00:57:01] Unknown:
yep. Yeah. Hey, Roger. This this is William again. Now, Yeah, William. I did I I wanted to say to the people, I sent y'all Roger's information. I and I've got the the websites in there and the two phone numbers that we can call in on. But the website that Roger was referring to, you do have it in the text that I referred sent you on sent you to. K. The maker Cool. When he I forgot what it was. Yeah. But but please ask questions. I mean, ask questions because, Roger has a wealth of information that we can Well use.
[00:57:30] Unknown:
That's why we're here. It is for your questions. I mean, I've know this stuff pretty well. I've had my freedom since 02/2007 and, I've never had it. Of course, I live outside the country, but I did come back for a couple of weeks here a few years ago to my mom's ninetieth birthday, and no problem. Walk right in. You know? The guy at the airport said TSA guy, what do you what do you what were you doing in Ecuador? I said, I live there. And he goes, okay. There's a whistler. We gotta say, a to a couple of folks, and mister Paul does that. So here you go, Paul. Let's hope you don't find a bad gateway.
[00:58:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm still getting a bad gateway error. Radiosoapbox.com. Thank you for joining us for the first hour. Please follow us into the second hour, and we will try to get that video for you. And 1 0 6 9 W B O U F M, the pulse of Chicago. Thank you for being with us as well. Go to the matrixdocs, d 0 c s Com, and follow us into the second hour by using free conference call, Eurofolk, or Global Voice. Thanks so much. Bye now.
[00:58:41] Unknown:
Bye. See you may tomorrow tomorrow. Tomorrow's Thursday, probably. William, are these folks you brought along here, are they in your area? Are they all over scattered?
[00:58:53] Unknown:
Scattered. I think Hector Hector, are you there? Because I just called Hector right before the call. So I don't know if he got on yet or not, but Hector's out of Philadelphia. Okay. Tiffany down at Saint Pete. Yeah. Tiffany down at Saint Pete, Florida. And who else did I say I had on, Tiffany? Who else was it?
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Because I have three people. Who's the third person? Oh, Eric oh, Eric's out of, Virginia.
[00:59:19] Unknown:
Eric may not be on this yet, though. And, hold on. I sent a text to Larry. I sent a text. I could get the other person.
[00:59:26] Unknown:
Go ahead. Well, we don't wanna neglect them. It's alright if you can't think of their name, but I just wanted to welcome all of them. And, you know, we've been I've been teaching this information in some way, shape, or form since 1992. As I've come to understand it that's one of the reasons I understand it so well, by the way, is because I've been teaching it for that long. And if you really want to and I have people come in, you know, new folks go, well, how do I learn? It's just so much. It's so confusing. Not really. It's pretty easy. It's just new stuff you've never been exposed to before in many instances. But but, I've been teaching this for all those years. And finally, I I understood from the get go that we had two statuses there, and many years. But what I found looking back was my mistake or their advantage, which either way you want to look at it, is they take a concept and they relabel it.
So it may be the same exact thing, but they put a new label on it. And our people, not understanding a lot of this old law, because they don't teach it in law schools anymore for the most part, and, not understanding this technique of relabeling, then they go off and chase the new label instead of understanding it's the same concept. I'll give you a couple of examples. The, what they've done is they took the old state citizen, which you can find replete just all over the old court decisions, state citizen, state citizen. For the first ninety years of the country, we didn't have a federal citizenship, and there were only state citizens.
And so, that goes along. They formed this, they I think that they started the Civil War to do this personally. That's the conclusion I've come to over many years. And then in 1918, excuse me, '68, we get a federal citizenship. It's mainly comprised of former, Negro slaves, not exclusively. And and we'll go into that another time. It wasn't necessarily a black thing. There were other people of other ethnicities that lived in DC and the territories and had been born there. But up until this new fourteenth amendment, they didn't have any kind of political status.
In essence, they were stateless. They had none of those controls. It was a bunch of people that came out of the states to handle the mutually cooperative, things that all these people needed. In other words, all of the states couldn't send an ambassador to London and one to Paris and one to Berlin. So they combined all those. They couldn't all have their own navy. They they did have their own army that was called the militia. But, they combined all these things that they all needed and couldn't afford to do separately into this area called DC, but it didn't have any parameters or anything else, politically, that is, until the passage of the fourteenth amendment.
All persons born are naturalized. That started that whole thing, which was partly a reaction from Dred Scott. You know, the Dred Scott decision was ruled in the eighteen fifties, and it is still controversial today. And so Alright. So that was the hole that they drove the fourteenth amendment through was the lack of any kind of state over DC and the federal territories and the incapacities that were brought forward by Dred Scott. Okay. So Alright. Who had the question?
[01:03:19] Unknown:
Wow. A little confusion here. Yeah. This is William, Roger. Yeah, William. It is William. Cool. So listen. I I do wanna cut you off, but I know you were going to your, to your spill. But, I you know, I've been on a lot of black folks. And so you had mentioned, when I had first came on the show that a lot of this started with, this stuff was was started by black people. I know you were going into the dread sky. Could you say something like that at at some juncture about why you say this all kinda started off black people? I think that's what,
[01:03:54] Unknown:
how you were referencing. I I didn't say it started off. You guys are the people that brought you to the country and made all those absorbent profits that many of these family fortunes are still based on today, they're the ones that did that. Okay? And Dred Scott was very interesting, you know, was slave and anti slave states, and people in congress were worried about which state was gonna be slave or non slave because it would determine, like now, the amount of representatives in the House of Representatives and which way they were oriented and all of that garbage.
Let me tell you before we get right into that, William. Thomas Jefferson had a wonderful quote on slavery, and he said, slavery is like holding a wolf by the ears. You can afford to hold it, and you can afford to let it go. Quite an interesting insight there.
[01:04:55] Unknown:
That one is, you know, I'm I'm familiar with a lot of his quotes. I'm not even familiar with that one. Could you say it one more time?
[01:05:01] Unknown:
Yes. Slavery is like holding a wolf by the ears. You can't afford to hold it, and you can't afford to let it go. This is quite an interesting quote. Expound on that a little? Well, I mean, yeah. It's like the slaves. They couldn't produce all the wealth of the country and the cotton and all the other things unless they had slave labor in those days. We didn't have all this technology stuff and all these machines. So it was one of those conditions where you almost had to have it to continue the country, but you hate it in its moral and ethical turpitude.
K? So it's kind of that dilemma. I guess we could say we've got that same dilemma in a couple other areas these days, but this was directly relatable back to a case called Dred Scott. First of all, the guy that that ruled on that was the chief justice of the Supreme Court. His name was Roger Taney, t a n e y. He was chief justice for about twenty years. He never went to law school, and he was from South Carolina, I believe. K? A slave state, which may have a bearing on his decision here. But the bearing really is not slavery as much as it's a judgment on property and property rights. Okay? And, unfortunately, in that system, the the black man and the Irish and the others, they were enslaved. It wasn't blacks. You guys don't have a monopoly on this victimhood here.
The Irish got a pretty good claim to it too. And in fact, in those days, the Irish slaves would work in the fields. And if they had a black slave, that would work in the house because they had to pay big money for them. Do you know the the amounts of money we're talking about in those days, William? Have you ever heard that discussed?
[01:06:50] Unknown:
You're great. Yeah. What what about a thousand or 1,500 or something like that per slave back then?
[01:06:55] Unknown:
They had about $20 in each one, and they sold them for an average of 2,000 in the 18 hundreds. How much you think a thousand dollars is worth in then?
[01:07:08] Unknown:
That's a lot of money. Now that pardon me, Paul? That's a lot of money. I have that video.
[01:07:15] Unknown:
Okay. We'll get in a second. And so let's not only take that. Let's take it a step further that you don't ever hear many people talk about. You think they just went down to the slave market and bought those slaves, Or do you think they went down and bought the slave and went to the Jewish banker to finance it with the Jewish slaveholder?
[01:07:35] Unknown:
The Jewish the Jewish banker, I'm driving, but the Jewish banker, I'm glad you mentioned the Jewish banker too. Yeah. But those were the dominant slave holders.
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Yeah. Well, they did those plantation, guys. There's only a couple of plantations that had a lot of slaves. But if anybody really did own black men, they own maybe one or two, and they cost them so much money that they considered them part of the family. You know? I mean, there's a lot of black slaves that went off and fought for the South in the civil war. Okay? And Nathan Bedford Forrest, bunch were a bunch of them. William, he's his name came up in our conversation the other day. Anyway, Dred Scott, left a slave state. I don't remember which one, Missouri maybe. And he got up to Illinois, and then they captured him. And he says, I'm a free man. They said, you can't be a free man. You're a black slave.
And that case went to the Supreme Court, and Dred Scott upheld that that conclusion. But remember, it wasn't unnecessarily black men. I mean, he was the object to the session, but it was really, I think, an idea over property rights, at at equally. So that was a big deal. It was highly, discussed. There's a lot of debate about it on both sides. And if you go to one of the definitive case or at least the benchmark case on the fourteenth amendment is called the slaughterhouse cases, William. And, and and so, in the slaughterhouse cases, which is an unusual case, we could go into it now. I'll hold I'll hold it for a minute. I wanna hear what Paul's got and get this video out of the way so we can close that discussion.
But, that was in 1871, the slaughterhouse cases. And there's a part in there if you read it, and it says, this was partly the result of Dred Scott, but it was also much discussion. This is in the case now, and it's 1871. The fourteenth amendment was passed in 1868. So the justices that are commenting on this situation, it's as if we were saying, hey, William. Do you remember when they closed everything down for COVID? Well, that's in all of our recent memories. Well, this was in their recent memories. Okay? And so they're saying the Dred Scott decision, was led up to a part of this, but it was a discussion of that day in DC, in the newspapers, in political circles, and in political journals that no man could become a black man could not become a citizen of The United States without passing an amendment to the constitution.
So that's where I say they were stateless. Okay? So all the territories at that time, including DC, you can't tell me that was exclusively run and occupied by black slaves. So there were other ethnicities. And here's the big thing to take away from this, William, is that, you know, we continue to see this broken down in ethnical confrontations. Jim Crow laws, black, white. White man here, black man here. Well, was it because of their color, or was it because of their political status? And you see the Jim Crow laws, even though it may have been manifested and represented in black and white, it really is where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties back to this formula.
Well, all the whitey were the state citizens that were still under god given rights and constitutional protections. And Jim Crow was the new federal citizen that was the majority black slaves. Oh, wow. Somebody's drilling on my wall. Okay. Well, hold on. I don't know if y'all can hear that. It's pretty I'll get it done in a second. Doing some final work on that apartment. Well, okay. So, anyway, that's a little background on that for you, William. Now, Paul, you wanna play that, and we can come back and talk about the slaughterhouse cases? And maybe in six minutes, they'll be done with this behind me.
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Can you hear that, by the way? Can do that. No. Hear that I No. We can't hear it. You're your noise canceling is working beautifully. Got it. It's, I mean, you could hear it, but, but we can't. Distraction. And I'm sorry about that. I I had an issue with my with my mute button on my microphone. Oh, you have issues. Alright. I I would okay. Okay. Who the hell was that? Alright. Anyways,
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okay. Here we go. Thank you. John Rich Okay. Talking to Alright. John Rich. John. But to the previous, put this slaughterhouse stuff on the back burner. We're gonna come back to it. It's a good topic. Go ahead and, play this Rich, excerpt, if you would, please, Paul.
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John Rich talking to president Trump. I will
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mute. And he asked you he wanted your advice.
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Yeah. So, you know, if you think about, what is the best way to serve someone well? Is it to tell them what they wanna hear, or is it to tell them what they need to hear knowing they're not gonna like what you have to say? Are you serving them well by BSing them? Right. No. You're not. Mhmm. Okay. Start with that. So I'm sitting around a table not much bigger than this one. It's Trump in the center where you're at. I'm just to his left. Herschel Walker is just to his right. Marsha Blackburn, bill senator Bill Hagerty, and Lindsey Graham, my least favorite politician in the world. No.
I'd rather I'd rather go hang out with Tim Walz. Oh, wow. Wow. Guys get right I would jazz it up to you. Sure you're a Britney. Lindsey Graham again. Okay. As as I said in a in a in a post on x not long after that, I said, had had dinner with Lindsey Graham, last night had dinner with Lindsey Graham a few months ago. It took me a week to get the sulfur smell out of my suit jacket. Do you wanna know what I think about that guy? Yeah. Yeah. So We're gonna be sure. Sitting there at dinner This is awesome. We're sitting there, and everybody's eating their food, and and and president Trump is not president this at this time, and he's talking to the senators. He's talking about really important stuff, and I'm just minding my own business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, okay. Sitting elbow to elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word, just been listening.
And Trump gets to Eaton, and you've seen him do this move right here?
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Yeah. Yeah. I think wherever in the big boardroom he does this. Okay. That's what he does. Mhmm. He he goes,
[01:14:34] Unknown:
can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John. John Rich? So I look at him and I go, yes, sir. What what's the question? He goes, well, you do a lot of big shows. You're like, you're an entertainer. Yes, sir. You play for really big crowds? I go, I do. I play for really big crowds for a long time. He goes, well, have you seen these rallies I'm doing? Like, it's thirty, forty thousand people. I said, yeah. It's unbelievable. He goes, so let me he goes, so here's the question. Why are people booing me at my rallies when I bring up the vaccine?
This is the question from the president of The United States. A guy who is very proud at that moment of the fact that he was able to stomp the gas pedal and get that thing out because he's under the impression this is gonna fix the problem. Operation warp speed. That's it. Yeah. Okay. So here's a guy who, to his own admission, one of the biggest egos on the earth. Yeah. And he's very proud of this, and I respect him to there is no limit. Right. But I'm being asked a very direct question. And so, man, I went looked at him and I said, okay. I'm gonna tell you the answer, and you're not gonna like it.
He goes, okay. What's the answer? You're gonna look at me like this? I said, let me start off by saying this. We, the the American people, do not trust the people that you were forced to trust at the time when this was happening. Let's start there. And I said, by the people we don't trust, here's who I mean. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, Fauci, and all the rest of them. I said, mister president, we consider them to be a bunch of murderous depopulationist psychopaths.
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And his reaction was that That's a good way to say his eyes are
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he goes, unbelievable. Unbelievable. That was great. Impression. No. He is stunned that I said that. I said, now let me tell you why they're booing you. I said, because all of them, including me, I said, I would boo you. I would boo you. Did you really You did not. I would boo you. Really? If you brought that up, and here's why. And he's looking at me, and I'm thinking to myself, this is the last time this guy's gonna invite me to anything. Yeah. He's never gonna call me again. I'm throwing massive shade on a former president's Yeah. One in his mind, one of his biggest accomplishments. Mhmm. And and it dawned on me nobody had told the man what I was telling him right now because they all worked for him. They all got something to gain from him. They're not going to tell him this because they're not serving him well.
I don't work for him, and I think a lot of him, and I want him to understand the truth about it. So I said, here's the problem. Here's why they're booing you, mister president. Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even died from it, including me. I said I got members of my own family who were forced to take it against their will to keep their jobs, and now they've got all kinds of problems, big problems, heart problems Mhmm. Lung problems. And he's he he's looking at me, and he he looks around the table, and he goes, this is unbelievable. I mean, he goes, is is this does anyone has anyone else heard this?
Herschel Walker, mister he was running for senate at the time. He goes, mister president, I mean, down in Georgia, my constituents come up at my rallies. And what what John just said, man, I hear it every single day. Looks over at Marsha. Marsha's sitting there going you know, looks around the table. And then Lindsey Graham, who's sitting across so you're here or I'm here. I'm sorry, but you're You're Lindsey Graham. Sorry. You're Lindsey. Hey. Sorry. Lindsey. Oh, yeah. Lindsey Graham You're Lindsey Graham, and you're America.
As I'm going into the part where I said, even in my own family, I have Lindsey Graham busts in with it swishing his chardonnay around and said, mister president, if you listen to conspiracy theorists like John Risch, the democrats are gonna take credit for what you did, and they're gonna beat you in the next election with it. Bruce, you hearing this? Oh. And I so I'm looking at Trump, and he's sitting over there. And he does that, and I looked at him and I said, do not interrupt me when I'm speaking. Do you understand me? You What? And he and he he looked at me and he goes, well, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I go, yeah. But you did.
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Oh. So
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Right now, you look like Wyatt Earp.
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You're you're intimidating. Just chuck us right here. You're Lindsey Graham. Okay? I go I'm holding him. I'm good. Yeah. You're Lindsey Graham. I'm
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gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him as your
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president. I look at him one more time. I go, now let me finish what I was saying. Oh, man. And then I finished it. Okay. That that the Trump ended that by saying, so I guess no more vaccine talk. I said, I think that's a good idea. I said, I think you're gonna learn a lot about it.
[01:19:46] Unknown:
But, yes, I think that's a good idea because that's the only thing that would make us ever boo you, mister president. You're right. I mean, that's one of the things that I think a lot of people didn't agree with him on, and it was Maxine and being proud of it. And Jason actually has a story that's similar to that. Well, Paul, you're gonna pop that down? I think that's the essence of what she was wanting to get across. It's very interesting inside commentary and conversation, isn't it? Little sugar britches. Sugar britches steps forward.
I I can't is that because the old saying, keep your enemies your friends close and your enemies closer? Is that what the hell Trump's doing with that faggot around? I think he's the one that tipped, tipped him off to where they could try and assassinate him a second time because it was made the night before that decision that they were gonna play golf the next day. It wasn't anything that was scheduled. And somehow they found out about that and put that thing into action, and I think it's that little bastard that did it right there. K. Could be. Speculation. Hey, Roger. Bruce. Yes. Bruce. Yeah. Your senators from your home state there, Bruce.
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Oh, yeah. You know what you hang around with, don't you? Probably that. Arizona?
[01:21:01] Unknown:
Who who who who? McCain? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were the the Warhawks. Yeah. Yeah. And if y'all don't know, since we've been talking about the USS Liberty a bit lately, it was John McCain's father who was head of Navy Europe that helped suppress all of that that day. Yes. There's many skeletons in the closet to be brought out, dusted off, and put on display. Okay. William, right before, we heard this little excerpt here, we were talking about Dred Scott and what led up to the fourteenth amendment. It's very interesting when you get into this in in-depth.
Okay? Because one thing and I tell you and your friends should they choose to join us and go down this path and learn and become enlightened, is that, well, hell, I feel it's life changing information. Okay? And, you're not gonna learn it overnight. It's a process evidenced by the fact that I'm still discovering stuff thirty something years later that I didn't understand. And it'll just come to you. But the point is if you get enough information in your mind, either your mind and your subconscious activated by God or whatever starts giving you answers. And all of a sudden, you'll be doing something on you some question you've had and, bam, the answer just comes to you, hits you like, upside the head, like a ball peen hammer.
I've had it happen a number of times. Okay? So, anyway, it's a process. Don't be frustrated. Take it a little at a time. This what I wanted to tell you about is one of these cases that's very important. It's called the slaughterhouse cases. It was in 1871. It's what is known as a landmark or a benchmark case because it was or a case of first impression because it was the first case to decide things about the newly ratified, quote, unquote, air quotes, fourteenth amendment. So the setup for the case was, you know, Louisiana, still today. I went to school at LSU, by the way, so I got a lot of love for Louisiana and a little bit of familiarity with it. And, of course, it was part of the Louisiana purchase.
And it was another Thomas Jefferson, a great deal he did right there, but the state of Louisiana has never had the common law in it. Still doesn't today. It's the only state in the Union that doesn't have the common law because it's still based on the Napoleonic Code from those days. K? So norm naturally, there's a lot of French people that had come over, had plantations, this, that, and the other. And French being French, when they'd slaughter their animals and they would, have every all the meat, everything they wanted, and they just had, like, skeletons and and and other parts, well, they go throw it in the Mississippi River. And just, well, there it goes. You know? Like I said, the French, they hang meat out for weeks and all that stuff. So, anyway, it was getting caught in the water intake valve that the city of New Orleans gets its water from the Mississippi.
And so the state of Louisiana passed a law under the public health, which is totally valid, that, if you had a plantation and were slaughtering animals, that the state was gonna set up all over the state slaughterhouses. And so you would have to go from where you normally did that activity and take the animal and everything to the slaughterhouse no matter where it was, might have been thirty, forty miles away, and slaughter your animals there so they could dispose of the remains properly. It wouldn't alleviate this problem. Well, the, a lot of the plantation owners took took umbrage to that, and they started filing these cases in court. And so they there were so many of them that they combined them all together, and that's where you get the plural, slaughterhouse cases.
So they brought that case and took it all the way to the Supreme Court under what's called the Privileges and Immunities Act of the new fourteenth amendment. It's the second clause in the fourteenth amendment. It's one of the most litigated clauses of the fourteenth amendment. And so it went all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court says basically, hey. French French butchers, we, we empathize with you and we sympathize with you, but this act was written for former Negro slaves, and you're white French butchers. So when you got a case that we can decide something on, bring it to us. Otherwise, we gotta rule against you.
Even back then, people still identified it as a black white issue, and it's been that way ever since, William. And the damnedest thing is when you really understand it, it's a political status issue. Whitey got his lie rights from capital g God, capital r rights, and owed capital d duties. Jim Crow got his civil rights from the federal government. They're small r rights, and they owe their small d duties to the federal government, which gave them this status. And, by the way, be sure and pay your taxes. Okay? Follow all the rules we're gonna lay down for you. Okay? But it wasn't a black and white issue. It was a political status issue.
That's amazing, isn't it? All these years, I they may be maybe it's brought up in Plessy v Ferguson, which is the most important Supreme Court case in this that you've never heard of because you've never heard of another researcher bring it up. Have you? Plessy versus Ferguson? Yeah. I heard Plessy versus Ferguson. You've well, you've done a lot of research, so you know about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the audience probably now. Even to the point where in that very pivotal, very important case, testing the fourteenth amendment of the Jim Crow laws, Plessy v Ferguson. And here's the story behind that. You may not know the this, William.
This was to directly confront the Jim Crow laws. It was in 1894, and, that was done by a very well, at that time, I guess, successful liberal newspaper. I don't know the name of it. This is the information Lauren brought us that I referenced yesterday. They had a commemorative of Plessy a few years back, and Lauren saw an article on it and sent it to me, and we got a lot of this background information on it. Well, there was a progressive newspaper in New Orleans, and they had an extensive reach up the East Coast. And they took in a donations and raised $3,000 in those days to bring this case and finance it. Well, they did. And the first thing they did was they went out and found Plessy.
They had to search to find Plessy because he was one tenth black and nine tenths white. And they brought Plessy to the railroad station. They had they hired the detectives to arrest him. They had their newspaper and the other newspapers there, and they trotted Plessy onto the white railroad car and then sent the detectives in and arrested him. And they brought that to the first level of state court there in Louisiana. And, the judge ruled against him, and his name was Ferguson, so they enjoined him in the case. And it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Plessy v Ferguson.
Like I said, if you've been researching this stuff and you've ever found anybody that mentions this, it's a rare instance. Because I'd I'd never heard anybody mention this before in our circles. You know? And this is the whole thing right here because it came back and said the decision of the court was separate but equal. Separate but equal. So, William, I'm gonna put you on the spot. How can somebody with civil rights be equal to somebody with god given rights? How can black drinking fountains and white drinking fountains be equal? Well, they can on the surface. Right?
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Yeah. No. They can't. But yeah. Well, I never had no much of a problem with segregation. I wanted to just put that on the record.
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Okay.
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Well, I'm I'm I never had a problem.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, well, but the thing is is, Plessy, when it said separate but equal, but you can't justify that in your mind the way it was executed with separate facilities for the races. So what had to be for them to be equal? They both had a political status. One was the old state status, and the new one was the new federal status. And that's the only way you can connect those as equal at least that I've ever been able to figure out. Now that was their big obstacle right there because they can't have that there where they ask you the question, hey, William. Are you a citizen of The United States or a state citizen or a national? But see, they can't ask it through you that way.
They can only ask it with, are you a citizen of The United States? A leading question, which is fraudulent on its surface because it lacks full disclosure. They're not telling you about the other one. Right? So they had to overcome that. Yes. Guess what they used to overcome Plessy v Ferguson was a really important case in the fifties called Brown versus Board of Education.
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You heard of that one, William? Heard of that one? Okay. Yeah. Rogers. Over but it's a ten minute one more time. We're at a restaurant. We just grabbing some food, Rogers. I'm sorry. Say say that last part again.
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Brown versus Board of Education is the case they forced to the Supreme Court to overturn Plessy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with Brown versus, Yeah. Okay. So now we got now we got Brown versus Board of Education. You you you know who, the guy that pro prosecuted it was later named to the Supreme Court first blast black justice. Thurgood Marshall. Thurgood Marshall. He he prosecuted that for the NAACP. And after they overturned Flessey, they gave him a seat on the court. So job well done there. So they did that. And what's the thumbnail of Brown versus Board of Education is equal in the classroom, equal in the society.
But notice they skewed it down to the federal citizenship. They could just have easily have said equal than the white country club is equal in the society, but they don't wanna take it up. They wanna bring everybody down. So Brown v Board overturned Plessy. Now they can ask you, hey, William. Are you a citizen of The United States? Because behind the citizen of The United States is hidden the all state citizen, but they don't identify it. They've gone to great lengths to hide it. Hey. Now, Roger, let me just intervene. Like, Roger?
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Yes. Let me just when you because when you you are sharing this information with us, if you have information on the site, can you, notate that so my people can be able to,
[01:32:38] Unknown:
go back and represent, do further research, you know? You know, William, one thing I don't like to do is write. And so, no, that's not there. You're gonna have to listen to the shows. They're my book. Well, it doesn't go into it this deeply. See? It's just because over the last few years have I been able to understand it enough where I can look below the surface of some of these other really key issues here. And here's a big one. Okay? And part of the reason I wanted to tell you all this and explain it to you in some detail is because when they when I started putting this, I used to think it was an either or, but they've got it as a both or the same.
K? And so as I came to realize that and think through some of the new information, well, it hit me 1954. Brown v Board was in 1954, and it kept haunting me at '54, '50 '4, '50 '4. The subconscious hunting, playing with you. Something important here. And then it hit me. And I went back and started researching. And after Brown v Board, sixty days, two months to the day, they put the 1954 internal revenue code in place, and it's with us still. So as I said the other day, the to Michael, the first action they took in 1913 was passing the sixteenth amendment in the spring. They didn't pass the Federal Reserve Act till Christmas, but they passed the tax act first. And here at the other end, they combine and overcome Plessy v Ferguson where they can trick you with the question, and sixty days later, they put the tax in as the end. These are the bookends.
Now this should tell you how important the tax system is because without the tax system, none of the rest of it would operate properly. So there's some insights for you, William.
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Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Listen. Now I've got a, now okay. I know other people got questions, which I wanna be dominating questions that I can set up in, you know, to have this closing with you all day long. So I don't wanna be come to us. We'll have we'll have shows like that in the future. So just look forward to them. Oh, okay. So so I do have another very important question since I have my certain people in my group here. People some of them are shy. Okay? But I still want them to hear your position on this. Okay? Now Yeah. We were talking yesterday and they were the just, a lot of times people equate white nationalism with the nationals.
And there is a distinction, and I'm we're not a I'm not opposed to any white nationalist ideology. I'm not. And most people that I bring on the call won't be opposed to it as well. But can you draw that distinction between because most people think when when we're saying, oh, these are these are these are nationals on the call, they think it automatically is white nationalists. But it's not necessarily white nationalists. Right?
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I think they've no. No. We got no kind of ethnic stuff, man. I mean, evidenced by I heard you and Tony had a hour long conversation with Brent yesterday. Hey. Brent's been a friend of mine for thirty seven years now. Okay? So Yeah. Pretty awesome. I I don't have those color lines. I don't believe I don't let any other people around here at least voice them because I don't think your freedom should be isolated in the ethnic stuff. And, you know, my position with the black man is this. I I love there's a whole bunch of you guys I really like. What I don't like is what they've been able and how they've skewed your culture. K? And I don't think Hey, Roger. Can I say something about Brent real quick? Day, please.
Please, man. I I I don't think you folks like that either, particularly. Okay? So, anyway, that's I I don't have a single problem with any any black man that's No. That that wants to be like other people. Just don't come in with all that gangster shit. You know? Alright. Dave, what do you got? Hold on, William. Hold on. Dave, what have you got to add? Yeah. I just like to say this about Brent. Brent is the white sheep national of his family. Yeah. That's right. Okay. Thank you, Dave. But they've that label is relatively new. They've only come up that years ago. Further back, it was sovereign citizen.
But now it's this white national or Christian national. Well, I'm all three. I'm a Christian. I'm white, and I'm a national. So but it doesn't mean exclusatory to anybody else. I think it's wonderful because what we found here, William, you can come from anywhere in the globe and go through the naturalization process in our country, the legal one. And when you get finished with it, you can get free because anybody that's a national all have access to I mean, that's a citizen of The United States through naturalization, no matter what ethnicity, all have a chance to be free through this mechanism.
I think it's fantastic. We've had all kinds of ethnicities on here. Thai, Chinese, Indian. We've had an American Samoan on here. We hadn't even talked about American Samoan yet, William. So you you guys don't know about all that, but that's where they're hiding everything is in American Samoa. Mirka, what did you have? Roger, I think that,
[01:38:05] Unknown:
what The United States system is doing is try and confuse people even more. And now that a lot more people are learning about the national private individual national, they're trying to confuse people with another word similar to the national, and they're calling it the national list. And those are the ones that act those are the ones that are carrying on, acting like they're superior. They're the superior national of the group, and therefore nationalism. So there's, like, a whole explanation on that, and it's crazy to see that this, again, is another dialectic
[01:38:44] Unknown:
that they're they're using as a tactic against people. Don't don't try and attach any of the negatives to that to our group because I don't believe there are any here, and I wouldn't allow you to Not not on ours. I'm I'm seeing you with this. For some reason. I'm talking probably. Right. Well, I'm talking to William and his new folks there. And just to let you know, we don't pay attention to that stuff, and we expose the liars and what they're trying to accomplish and how they accomplish it and, have yet to put one of those situations forward where we didn't give you a remedy. So we're very remedy oriented, but you gotta understand what's going on and why you're doing this stuff if you're gonna decide to go do it. And it's totally your decision. I'm not gonna charge you. I'm not I I may persuade you a little bit if I can as I want you to. But but, I won't make the decision until you do it. K?
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Because meanwhile, I brought that up was because I'm a tell you the I I can't stand white liberals. Okay? And I don't I don't think white liberals. I mean, so I wanna make sure that that we are clear. We we don't like them. With the white Nationals and white Nashville. I'll deal with them all day long, but I can't stand white liberals. Just wanna I guess you could. Okay.
[01:39:57] Unknown:
You could label us that if you wanted to, but that's what we were before they came up with the label. Alright? Now what I wanna explain to you, because we haven't even touched on this with you and Tony yet. And I didn't even know it when my book was written. Okay? And that's about American Samoa. The way I found this was having to get a passport to move to Argentina. Never had one before. Went down after I decided to make that move and, went to the post office and got a both, 11, a 82 renewal, took them home, put my feet up on my desk there in that beautiful scene of where the family house was, and, looking over the water, not the gulf, but a bay but a bay and a and a bayou, and start reading it and tell William, at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years.
Remember me saying they take the concept and relabel it? Well, I that's what I've been going through. I knew there was these two statuses, but I didn't know what the label was. Okay? And so I can take you and your friends today over to Title 42, you know, is the civil rights code. Right? And go down to sections nineteen eighty three and nineteen eighty six of the civil rights code in The United States code and show you the first sentence of both of those sections said the citizens of The United States are equal to the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. That's right in The United States code today.
I can take you over to the 26 CFR, the code federal regulations for IRS, and show you where it's called the nonresident alien. Change the labels. White citizen, nonresident alien. I can take you over another place. They say you're a territorial citizen over in the eighth, section. So this is an example of them just changing labels to fool you. So when I got that passport in my hand, that application, it said at the top, secretary of state of The United States Of America. Well, I already knew from a previous experience with the attorney general of Florida, the secretary of state, that he had final authority over all matters concerning citizenship.
I knew that because I'd asked him to write a letter saying I was a proud Florida state citizen, And that's what he answered. Can't do that, bud. Secretary of State of The United States has final authority over all, a l l, matters concerning citizenship. And I didn't understand that because I was real green in my first six months back then. All of our heads were spinning from this stuff, but it lodged in my subconscious. And all those years later in 02/2007, when I saw that at the top, I connected it to that sentence in my mind.
Amazing. Okay? That was twenty, twenty five years or more. So right below that, if you've looked at a passport application, we can go over this with you if you had one in front of you, you'll see what's called a warning box. You know what a warning box is in in pharmaceuticals, where it's that rectangular box with that big black line that says warning in capital letters to warn you about something? I'm sure you've seen those, William. Well, there's a warning box in the passport application. It just doesn't have the line around it. They didn't want to accentuate it that much, but they had to put it in there, and I'll explain to you why in a minute. So in there still to this day and in both of the 11 and the renewal, that's important, is this warning box.
And it says you can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, comma, but you better not lie, or we're gonna hit you with these six or seven sections of the United States code. And it's in a warning. It's not a box. It's just a big warning in capital letters. Well, in those days, in that paper version, it was right at the top of the first page because the oath is at the bottom of the fourth page. And that's where that relates to, but they don't want you connecting them. Okay? So here's secretary of state of The United States, knew he had, final authority over all matters concerning citizenship.
Right under that is that warning box, and the word affidavit was in there. And we'd been using affidavits in all the stock tax stuff we'd been doing. I went, well, I've got an affidavit. It doesn't say why you file them, but it just says you can do it. And so right then, when I saw both of those, I said, I've got these bastards because now I knew what they called it. Because you go over to the oath, and the oath, which they've changed, Tony, the state department changed the oath after I started teaching this stuff on the air. That's a pretty big feat right there. It probably never changed in decades. Okay?
And so it says, I solemnly do solemnly swear under penalty of perjury that I'm a citizen of The United States, and in the old ones, parenthesis, or a noncitizen national, close parenthesis, and have not since acquiring United States citizenship, parenthesis, or US noncitizen nationality, close parenthesis, violated any of the terms and acts and conditions in the instructions on page so and so, parenthesis again, unless explanatory statement is attached, close parenthesis parenthesis. Again, I swear under penalty of perjury, the foregoing is true and correct. Now that's just the way it used to be. Now it's they've reworded it just a bit, not much. They just took but they just changed it slightly.
But they added underneath it, there's four check boxes, and you gotta check those four check boxes before signing it. Now if it's a first time passport applicant, you've gotta go to the post office with an authorized agent to sign it in front of them. And if they don't have one of those, you gotta go to a local judge and sign it in front of him. And we've had that happen. Okay? There are situations where that happens. And so, anyway, I looked at that, and I saw noncitizen national, and that's what I equated to the national. And it was only after the book was published and some of this other stuff that a listener sent me an email about a plebiscite, which is when a whole country votes on something called a plebiscite.
And there was a plebiscite down in American Samoa. And they were trying to get basically incorporated into The US system. Well, it turns out there's this little island down there, William, about looks like an almond, about shape of an almond on the on the map. It's the only unincorporated territory in the system, and so therefore, they have natural rights. Today, if you own land in American Samoa, it depends on who sits in the legislature and passes the laws, and they have a loyal title to their land. If you committed an abortion in American Samoa today, they could convict you of murder. K? So what they did was in 1900, they were taking land over in the Philippines war and all that part of the world, and they got American Samoa, and they left it an unincorporated territory, which means they have their god given rights.
In fact, they cannot get all the goodies that the federal government gives out to its slaves to keep them happy, and they're kinda a little mad about it. They've tried to take it to the Supreme Court twice, and it's never gotten up there, and they can never hear this case. If they ruled on it, it'd blow the whole system, apart because here's what they've done. They took these American Samoans and called them noncitizen nationals because they're nationals with god given rights, but they're not federal citizens and cannot become federal citizens without going through the naturalization process.
There's a bunch of them in The US, mainly in Utah. I guess the Mormons have probably done a good job down there. And, they have limits. In other words, if they join the military, they can't become an officer. If they do civil service, they can only go above such a grade, etcetera, etcetera, unless they normalize. And they don't like that. They think they ought to be Americans. And so that's what they've done. They've taken the American Samoas and called them noncitizen nationals because they're nationals, but they can't be federal citizens without naturalizing. And then they took the state citizen and named it national and hid it behind them. That's what's going on here.
So these are the links that these people have gone to to hide this little national term. And that's why you'll never see them come forward because they've been caught in so many layers of fraud. It's hanging territory.
[01:49:58] Unknown:
Roger?
[01:50:00] Unknown:
Yes. Is that Sherry?
[01:50:02] Unknown:
Yes. And I'm hoping that you will repeat that code, 19831986, because I don't know if it was just,
[01:50:13] Unknown:
nineteen eighty six. 40 two. Okay. Hold on. That's alright. Title 42, the civil rights code, sections nineteen eighty three and nineteen eighty six both start with that same first sentence. So there it is right there. There's Jim Crow again even though they bitch and moan about it right there in the damn United States code. And they don't, you know, overhear them bring any attention to that, though, do you? Of course not. So, William, I kinda given you a drink of water out of the fire. Please. Yes. Could you repeat that sentence that it states? Because that's what cut out. The privileges and immunities of the citizens of The United States are the same as the white citizens.
K? I guess that's okay. William, I gave you and your friends kind of a drink of water out of a fire hydrant here today. I hope I didn't overwhelm you. Okay? Well, evidently, everything's cool. Anybody else? We're getting towards the end of the program here today on Wednesday, the ninth. Does, anyone have anything to add or ask? Hey. I'm sorry, Roger.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
Roger? Yes. I was talking, but it was I had it muted. I'm sorry. This is William. I was trying to respond to you. We but I was talking, and it was still muted.
[01:51:23] Unknown:
Okay. So sorry to give you a drink of drink of water out of a fire hydrant. Did you have any questions on all that?
[01:51:31] Unknown:
No. That was good information. I just wanna be able to, I'm very, very familiar with Plessy versus well, not very familiar with Plessy versus Ferguson. I know it from perspective that you presented it, but I would like to I thought maybe that I could find something on your site, so I can delve into it a little bit deeper. Now for one question, what happened in the Napoleonic Oh,
[01:51:51] Unknown:
there's Mark. No. Hold on. I got a saw going outside. Mark's in the background. I'm trying to hear what you're saying over all this distraction here, William. So that, generally, there are not briefs or anything written on this stuff. I give you it on the air because I'd rather talk where we've got three kinda three-dimensional communication. You could get emotions and and stuff rather than writing. I just don't like writing. Sorry.
[01:52:20] Unknown:
I agree. I agree. I understand. Okay. Okay. Well, did that is that Mark the gentleman that does the show on Friday? Is that who you were referring to? No. No. That that's Brent. This is Mark, our paralegal, who's out in Las Vegas trying to,
[01:52:33] Unknown:
not gamble all his money away and not eat too much of that good food. Hey, Mark?
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Hey, Ron. Okay. Let me decline.
[01:52:40] Unknown:
Alright. Let's see. He sounds faint. You're a little faint, buddy. Can you get to the microphone better? Is that any better?
[01:52:47] Unknown:
No. Okay. I'll I'll see if I can, call in on the phone.
[01:52:52] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, Mark's gonna call in, so we might have a little after hours discussion. We got Brent, who you guys know, now William and Tony, and, is in Vegas. And, our buddy John Kasarab is over there from Los Angeles, and Mark is out there where he used to live from Oklahoma also. So I would imagine those guys are having some good, good bread breaking sessions together, hopefully. We'll see if Mark can get back in here quickly. He was very, very faint. So anybody else got anything here as we, close out today, the ninth? Yes. Lady Linda Louise. Hey. And Hey, sweetie. Yes, ma'am. You certainly may.
[01:53:36] Unknown:
I looked up, eighteen, 1983 and 1986, and it just talks about persons. It doesn't talk about white
[01:53:45] Unknown:
white citizens. Well, I may have my sections I may have my sections wrong. I was pretty sure those were both correct, though. Anyway, in that range right there, there are two sections that start out and, this citizen of The United States have equal. I don't remember exactly how it's worded. I've seen it several times, but go go hunt for it a little bit right in that area. It should it's there. Okay?
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Okay.
[01:54:14] Unknown:
There's Mark. There he is now. I can hear you. Hey, buddy.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Hey. Greetings from sunny Las Vegas.
[01:54:21] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Just a little bit for you. Allergies. I bring You got your allergies a little bit still.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
Oh, well, yeah. I'm doing better, though. I was really sick, after I landed here. I think I had a, allergic reaction that occurred when I got here. But, anyway, I wanted to to point out to William, he's got two fantastic resources. One of those is the nationalstatus.com and then Devon's citizen handbook, which you can find on the nationalstatus.com website. Just go to the search box, type in handbook, and on the, results page, you'll see the citizenship handbook. That has all these cases that Roger's been going over, and you can review them yourself.
[01:55:11] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Appreciate that. I appreciate that. Great. Great. Yeah. You're welcome. And he's he's got it. I'm a little old. Him and Kave going. Ask. You know you know Mark's address, William?
[01:55:24] Unknown:
Not not Mark. No. I don't have Mark's address. Can you, Mark, why Well, can I write?
[01:55:30] Unknown:
It's it's simple, but let him give if you can write, you can write it down. Mark. It's easy to remember. It's easy to remember. It's strawman@mark,allcaps,.com,
[01:55:43] Unknown:
just like it sounds. M a r k a l
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l c a e f.
[01:55:51] Unknown:
Mark, will you mind sending I can send it to you. I can send it to you in an email. Okay. Okay. Email? Okay. Great. Appreciate it. I'll do that. You won't have to fumble around. Sounds like you're driving or you got your folks with you. Yeah. He just Something. Well, our, outro is tailing off here. So for the folks that are on any of those platforms that Paul listed earlier in the program, hopefully, we'll, be able to maybe see you tomorrow again, Otravez in Spanish, on the April 10 because we'll be here, and we hope you'll join us. So see you then.
[01:56:25] Unknown:
Ciao.
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Ciao. Ciao. So, there we go. Show in the can. Another one in the can. Mhmm. Alright. So now who's got questions? I've been running my mouth for pretty much two hours here.
[01:56:41] Unknown:
I got more question, but let me let somebody else talk.
[01:56:44] Unknown:
Let's see if they got some questions here, William. Come forward. Now is your chance. Okay, William. I think you're clear.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Now we're at the we're at the end now. Oh, is the music gonna start playing? I'm gonna have to We know it aren't it just finished. It was very loaded. Oh, the music. Paul got it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So what call you guys turn that music. I I Throw me off.
[01:57:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he doesn't wanna make it so loud. It throw throws me off. So there's a happy medium, but he did pot it down quite a bit today. Anyway, we're in the second part of the show. We call it the after show. And as you guys found out yesterday, hell, it goes to the wee hours of the night sometimes.
[01:57:23] Unknown:
You see this? How much time do you and can you spend with us on this app to show Rogers?
[01:57:28] Unknown:
Well, I generally don't hang around because, you know, quite sitting there talking for two hours and totally focusing is kinda draining on an old man. So a couple hours is about all I usually spend. I can hang around occasionally. It depends on what the topic and how my schedule is.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Just, quickly, as you can, we had mentioned it yesterday. I'm a lot more I sided more with the anti federalist. And so when you were saying something about and I miss I misunderstood it. That's why I had you to clarify that at the beginning of the show where you're talking about when you said that I well, I misinterpreted it. I just misstated it saying that this August, deception and everything began with the black slaves or civil war, but you clarify that at the beginning. Now
[01:58:21] Unknown:
where where's this oh, William. Oh, William. Hold on. There's a secondary conversation going on. I wanna see if we can identify it and gotta get it calm down here.
[01:58:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It's your twenty, but I'm I'm looking for it. Call. I'll I'll pause.
[01:58:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's really distracting to have that going on in the background when you're trying to focus on questions or some of this complex stuff. The way they finish. Okay. And now I got a saw going on. Jeez. Oh, my Yeah. I think we I wish they'd hurry up and get this construction thing. Yeah. Okay. Now, yeah, it's gone. William, now undo your mute, and let's see if we can field your question here, my friend.
[01:59:05] Unknown:
Okay. I have my background noise, first of all. No. You're you're fine now. Okay. Alright. So just real quick. What I wanted to say was that, now that I got a better understanding when you were talking about the it started with the slave and it didn't actually start with the slave. I believe a lot of this confusion started with the with the anti federalist versus the federalist.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Well, yeah, it's been going on since the start. What's been going on since the start of the country? I mean, do you know that in those meetings on the constitution that they called in, Hamilton back to New York three or four times to go consult with the money powers? So there's a lot of this skullduggery going on all the way back then. As my teacher said, I don't know if you've heard this, William, it's very important. The battle we fight today is the battle we fought since the beginning of time. That is Lex Rex, the law of the king versus the common law or God's law.
The law of man versus the law of God. That's a battle we're in right now.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree. I agree. Okay. Yeah. Because, and I I didn't didn't appreciate Hamilton at all. That's right.
[02:00:16] Unknown:
But we just Yeah. No. No. I wouldn't either. He was a Jew. His father was a Jew. I don't know about his mother. He was born in Martinique or one of those islands in the Caribbean and had a flare for finance and ended up in the early stages of the federal government's foundation and history. So yeah. But it's been going on for a long time, and they even tried to recognize the slaves
[02:00:40] Unknown:
with what? Three fifths of of of for voting purposes and stuff? That's what you gotta say. Yeah. That the South that promote that the South that did that, not the North. I want people to understand that. That was the South that did that. Yeah. Because we don't wanna give any rights. The North didn't wanna give a slaves any rights. Black men, any rights. The North They were they were a lot worse than the plantation owners to them. You know? And then as we mentioned the other day and you knew,
[02:01:07] Unknown:
the biggest slave owner in South Carolina was a black man who selectively bred his slaves. None of the white plantation owners like that. Party, Anthony Johnson? I don't remember what the guys it could be. Well, I'm not sure. I don't know what his name is. I just know he existed.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Johnson actually was in the, the sixteen hundreds. And, he is the one that pretty much paved the way.
[02:01:35] Unknown:
Right. No. I know about him. Yeah. And it wasn't him. It was another black, plantation owner that had become a free man somehow. And Bruce may know about this. Bruce from South Carolina. But, yeah, he they selectively bred their slaves. And, you know, my question was the other day, I think it's legitimate. I wonder how many of these black physical specimens we see in all these athletic positions. I wonder if any of them are related back to that. That's an interesting question. So, anyway, what else, William? Can we answer a question wise for you?
[02:02:11] Unknown:
Let me I just wanna get I need to get some food last time. I'm gonna listen listen a little bit here. Okay. Well, listen. I'm gonna probably do the same thing. I'm starving too. And so,
[02:02:21] Unknown:
we can reconvene tomorrow. And, this Thursday, those are usually kinda down days, and we can take this conversation wherever you wanna go. This why I love new people Excellent. And especially these black folks coming here because I want you to know and I wanna educate you that these people have used you. They've they've you your own kin, fought you and put you on the slave ships in most instances. But once you got over here on the Jewish ships, the Jews sold you. And and and and now they give you a fake idea. They they're gonna give you freedom, and they got it set up where they can use you to enslave everybody, for god's sakes.
Yep. And I agree with that. So you guys get this information around your community, and let's explain it to them because I want you pissed off because they will get act I agree. And we are. Believe me. We are. Okay. Because we're pissed off too. And we got the answer. Nobody's ever had these people in this position ever in history that I can find. We got them right by the shorthairs. They can't do anything but stand mute. And when they stand mute, they convict themselves. They admit they were slaving because they can't deny, and they can't rebut. They have to stand mute. And in standing mute, they convict themselves.
How about that, William? Is that slick or what? Bruce?
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Keep on I'm trying to unmute. Go ahead. Yeah.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
William, I'm gonna shock you a little bit, about South Carolina. I'm from South Carolina. My ancestors wrote the document to succeed from the nation and presented it to the legislative branches of South Carolina. Now, you you know, they took down the Confederate flag in February, the battle flag. Remember that event?
[02:04:19] Unknown:
Yep. Yes. I remember it.
[02:04:21] Unknown:
Okay. And it was quite a day, watching that, battle flag come down. And they put it in front of the capitol on the ground, where the monument of the fallen soldiers were. That's where they put it. Well, do you know the Confederate the original Confederate flag still flying over the Dome, South Carolina? Did you know that?
[02:04:43] Unknown:
No. I didn't know that, but I I heard I think I've heard some things about it. Yeah. Well, it was adopted in 1860
[02:04:50] Unknown:
to represent the nation of South Carolina and to Confederate State of South Carolina. It's the Palmetto flag. The blue flag, the crescent. Right. That is the original Confederate flag.
[02:05:02] Unknown:
This is Chris from California.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Chris. Boy, you sound good today. Let me just put you on just a second. It was originally, done in Mobile, and then you guys incorporated it with your state flag. I don't know if William knows the background of this battle flag and why we hold it in such a steam because it's been so demonized. I got one hanging in my window right here in my apartment in Ecuador, William. And what happened was the the southern flag, Confederate, and The US flag were so similar that in the early battles of the Civil War, soldiers couldn't recognize the standard, the correct one, and they were going to the enemy's standard, the flag. And so they said come up with a flag which differentiates us without using the Confederate flag.
And so they did it with the Saint Andrew's Cross. William, do you know the significance of the Saint Andrew's Cross? No. I don't. Andrew was one of the disciples' brother. And when they crucified him, he said, I'm nowhere as good as Jesus. Tilt my cross to the side. That's where it came from. It's not racist. It's not anything else to do with anything with ethnics. It's got something to do with Jesus, and Saint Andrew is not thinking he was as good in instructing the people that were gonna crucify him to tilt the cross to one side. K? FYI.
Chris.
[02:06:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. I just, I I really enjoyed the show today. The fellow that was talking about, answering Trump's question, you need to have that guy on every day for a week.
[02:06:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Thank you, Chris. But but I just, thank you for bringing it to us. I saw it the other day. I think I commented on it on the show, but I don't go and search those things out. So I appreciate Robin bringing it to us so we could play that. I I think that's real important information for the Trump haters.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
Go ahead. It is. I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the archives and make you a copy of that and send it everywhere. So, anyway, I came across this book. It's, you know, it was a bunch of it's a hundred and eight pages stapled together. It's entitled guidebook for the national principle, establishing your status by Ed Presley. You know about this work?
[02:07:36] Unknown:
No. I don't.
[02:07:38] Unknown:
And and he go I'm looking for a date in it, but he goes into how they brought the feudal system in. He said almost exactly the same thing you say.
[02:07:49] Unknown:
He was probably one of John and Glenn's students, should be my guest, Chris.
[02:07:54] Unknown:
That's the young man, Presley. Young man, Presley. Oh, that's Presley.
[02:07:58] Unknown:
Well, he's our he's our young student. You know what? He's down in LA. Chris, you know how old he is? He's about 19 years old. You're kidding. No. He's got a video on YouTube too. And his mother, his they were his grandfather was an Iranian Jew, and John Kasarab did some presentations on our stuff for him. That's how we found him. And Presley was the oldest of three sons, and he came on the air with us. And his mother, Sonny, came on, and his mother, Sonny, told us his two younger brothers are sharper than he is.
[02:08:37] Unknown:
Amazing. Amazing.
[02:08:39] Unknown:
Yep. So that's who that is. I didn't know he's going under. I knew him as Presley. I didn't realize that was him. He's got a nome Okay. Well, good. Nome de guerre. Is that what they call it? A nome de guerre? Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Chris had some answer, and I'll get you. Chris?
[02:08:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, that's good to know. I'll I'll have to somehow try to meet him, here in LA.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. We hadn't heard from him in a long time. I don't, well, I don't have any contact information for him, but he sure gave all of us a lot of hope when some he was 18 at when he stumbled across us. Some 18 year old kid is out there and, go on and onto this material at that age and comprehending it and moving on it and being as astute as he is. And I don't know whether y'all have heard this or not, but this younger generation, him, is one of the most conservative generations that they've caught coming up in history. See, there there is hope at the bottom of this little column. Somebody was trying to say something a second ago, Chris. Let me I don't wanna ignore it. Go ahead. Who was that? I'm done. I just have a quick Thank you, Chris.
[02:09:47] Unknown:
Was 18 then. Okay. And he's probably 21, 20 two. Yeah. He's probably right.
[02:09:53] Unknown:
Yeah. He's probably out whipping up rallies on the West Coast there. Who was trying to get in?
[02:09:59] Unknown:
John Seals.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
Hello, John. How are you doing?
[02:10:03] Unknown:
I'm doing good, Roger. You know, I am I'm I'm still having an issue trying to get, you know, an attorney kinda to help me out, with my bankruptcy that I was trying to go through with, but I decided I'm just not even gonna go that route because I have a court date on April 28.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
Chris Chris, hold on. John Chris, could you mute mute there? I was catching a conversation if you would, please. Okay. Congratulations. Now John no. Hold it. We're not done yet. 2727. Yeah. Can you can you get him Paul, please? Okay. Now John Seal. I'm you're gonna have to refresh me a little bit. When was the last time we talked?
[02:10:47] Unknown:
Gotcha. We talked a couple weeks ago, you know, about how I tried to file bankruptcy, and they they refused me because of my status of being an American national. And so I decided I'm not gonna file bankruptcy. I already tried to take care of some issues, and I have a full date coming up April 28 of Frank White versus John Seals where I'm just gonna take it to him personally, you know. And and if I gotta represent myself when I go in there, fine. By golly, that's what I'm gonna do. But I'm not afraid of these people, and I'm I'm just gonna go ahead and spearhead them. I I know nobody wants to help me out, and that that's fine and dandy and everything. But, you know Mark. It could be the it could be the end of me, but I just wanted to say Well you know, the last five years of my life not, not being a US citizen has been the best experience I've ever had in my life. And people around me, my coworkers, you know, they they're witnesses to it too. They they don't wanna follow suit. But, you know, because, you know, they're they're just they live in fear. It's all fear driven. And Yep.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
You know, like I said Well, you know, I I didn't know. I'm having a time. Getting an attorney. That's all. Oak. Well, you what about Mark? Have you reached out to Mark?
[02:12:01] Unknown:
You know, I I've contacted several people, and it's just a dead end everywhere I go. So I'm pretty sure that I'm just gonna That's fine, John, but that's not the question I asked you. Have you reached out to Mark?
[02:12:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
Yes. I have.
[02:12:17] Unknown:
Okay. Well, didn't that answer your question? If I recall correctly,
[02:12:21] Unknown:
I asked for certain information upfront, and it was not supplied. I couldn't even tell what was going on with the case, and we went back and forth. And I just said, well, you know, I wish you luck.
[02:12:32] Unknown:
I got you. Well, I sent you the documents to the court hearing that's on April 28. I gave you everything I had. I don't know what's going on about that, but I did send that to your email and made it the very first day. So, you know, whatever.
[02:12:45] Unknown:
You know what I mean? Well, maybe I'm competing you with somebody else. I don't know.
[02:12:49] Unknown:
Well, anyways, it doesn't matter at this point. I'm just done. You know, if I'm if I'm brave enough to to stand up to these tyrannical government people in government and the IRS, I'm most certain I can I can handle these little schmucks and pinheads down at the courthouse? A little make it sound It doesn't bother me any. Uh-huh. It'll make it sound like I'm not worried about it at all, you know. Hey, if they want to destroy a good man, I'm more than willing to walk through that fire. You know, I don't care because I know what's coming, and bad things are coming to this country. I'm I I don't wanna be categorized as a Trump hater, but I hate every single politician. I think politics ought to be banned because I've been alive fifty four years. In the fifty four years I've been alive, I haven't seen politics work out one iota for the man, common man in this world. And so for people to put any trust in any man, I find that very ludicrous because Well, it's just whenever maybe he's the guy said that whenever Maybe he's starting to work out with bet with okay. Go go ahead. John, go ahead. The get the guest you had on that was talking about Trump not, you know, about him being booed by mentioning vaccines. Well, guess what? They're not gonna talk about vaccines, and guess what? He's not gonna get booed. So that solves that problem. But does it solve the problem of, you know, why did he do it? Why hasn't he, like, investigated these people? Why why don't we have answers on why our own people are dying? You know? I lost a 29 year old's daughter to that, you know? Right. She was only 29 married with two kids. We don't. John, I I can hear your frustration. I hope you're getting it out and talking about it makes you feel better, but there ain't a damn thing we can do for you here. Okay? I know that, but but I just find it ludicrous to trust anybody who says, well, dang it. Now I don't have to talk about it anymore. Nobody's ever gonna get to hear about it because guess what? I don't wanna get booed, and I'm not gonna mention anything. So if somebody says, hey. What's being done about the vaccine? He's gonna say nada.
And that that's, to me, that's pretty shitty.
[02:14:44] Unknown:
Well, it's just like Brent Winters. He ran for office. Politicians want you to tell them, what you're thinking, and they wanna hear what you're thinking because that's just what they make decisions on. And, you know, they're not all bad. There's some good, there's some good they're they're few and far between, and I'll certainly grant you that. But they're good. They're not politicians. They're statesmen.
[02:15:09] Unknown:
Okay? And I that's what I think Trump is. Alright? Well, I'm also a statesman. I got my statesperson's award, you know, and and like I said, I'm willing to go up against these people. I don't care Okay. Because I know what's coming soon, and what's coming soon isn't gonna go well with the vaccine and the issues that that that's caused because I feel. It. Your sickness is gonna be based on how much metal is in your body and how the five and six g reacts to it. And and Yep. And I mean, these people are diabolical, and they've been planning this for a long time. And for anybody to think that, you know, they're not in on it, that that's crazy. But, you know, I like I said Well, I know Trump wasn't in on it because I saw the contract. I know Trump wasn't in it because Robert Barnes read the contract.
[02:15:53] Unknown:
Okay? Right. Well After they finally got in to release it. So listen, John. There ain't nothing we can do for you. Are you just I know. Some trust for you. Say thank you, guys. You're just ramping No. I
[02:16:05] Unknown:
was just trying to pull one last call out there just to see if somebody might be able to, you know, try and send me some information on maybe what I should do at this point whenever I gotta go into court and represent myself as an attorney because I cannot I can't even hire a civil attorney to help me take on this case. I I'll pay him. No. But ain't nobody wanna do it. And so guess what? I'm gonna go under and battle my ass. Well, they don't understand your position.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
Michael Nail talked to four or five attorneys. None of them understood it. So those are the, that's why I say you better learn this information. If you gotta give the situation like John here where you gotta defend yourself, you better know it, and you're not gonna cram it in all at the last minute. It takes time. I'm sorry. They've got I know it does. I know it does. But, anyways, I just wanted to also speak on how wonderful it's been the last five years being in American National. It's been the best experience I ever experienced. It's a damn shame people aren't brave enough to step forward. I well, I feel the same way. And what it is is for William and these folks, is you're connecting with God again when you were supposed to be at born, and they threw this blanket over it. And Esau Edom tricked you into giving his birth rack his birthright back to him. And all of a sudden, you're gonna change that. And, yeah, it is a big deal. And it doesn't happen overnight, but you will reconnect with that power.
If you continue to live it, continue to study, you will reconnect with that powerful with that power, and you'll be like me as I ain't scared of one single son of a bitch on the face of this earth.
[02:17:41] Unknown:
Right. Period. I'm with you on that. You know what? I just last last, comment, you know, I'll I'll get off and listen to everything and other people. But,
[02:17:52] Unknown:
I just wanted to to know, does anyone did, did Hitler invade Israel when he killed the Jews? I just want some anybody can answer that question. He he he sent his people down there, I forget which one, down with them to the to that part of the world, and they minted a coin with the, Hama, that eight pointed thing on one side and the swastika on the other.
[02:18:17] Unknown:
Well, FYI, Israel wasn't created till 1948. So the Jews came from Germany, and they lived with Hitler. Moses was Hebrew, not Jewish. I just thought I'd need that little piece of information. When they had all those Jews, they were gonna send them to the con you can find this in a book called the transfer agreement
[02:18:34] Unknown:
written by a Jew named Black, I believe. And they had all those ones that they're gonna send to the concentration camp and some doctor and a couple of these other little monsters said, no. Just take this group and send the others to the camps. They sent their own people to the camps, not Hitler. He was trying to get rid of them all over the world. Nobody had taken them to transfer a group don't read them. My point was they're they didn't live in Israel before 1948. They lived there permanently with it. Well, there were some there weren't Zionist down there. And the Jews And it was and the Christians and the Muslims of which it was about 85% live next door to neighbor with no problems for two thousand damn years till those monsters went down there. The doctor and his little cadre of Zionist creeps.
These Satanists battle. Roger.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Yes. I know. Well, I might go ahead and post my court date right on my social media page and on YouTube and Rumble. I might go I might been doing some live feeds and doing some, StreamYard live stuff. And, tonight, I just might post my court case just so everybody can see it. That way, you know Alright. It's there. Okay. People wanna look at because I I don't know what they're gonna plan on doing to me, but a guy like me don't last very long in a situation like this. I thank you guys. What part where where in the country are you? Hey, Roger.
[02:20:04] Unknown:
All this. Where in the country? Has the same Missouri. Okay. Well, good luck to you, John. Sorry to see anybody in these situations. Alright. I I I know. I'm not I'm not We can't go in we can't go in and go over all the intricacies of somebody's situation and this and Frank and Mary and Sue and all that. We just can't do it. That's where it's out of our Ballywick. Okay. Larry was Right. At the site of late. Yeah.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Can you just can you tell us briefly to refresh our memory what why John's going to court?
[02:20:39] Unknown:
I don't have any idea. I don't remember.
[02:20:41] Unknown:
Oh. But I did he did say something interesting about why I'm going to court was for the fraud that was committed. Oh, and I didn't tell you. Last week, a judge ruled on that fraudulent, property tax issue here in Jackson County. They raised my property tax a 15% on my house. They're only allowed to do a 15% legally, and a judge ruled on that and found them guilty of fraud and said you're gonna pay back 200,000,000 last week. And I'm pretty sure I got a winning case, and I don't care if I gotta go under myself. I'm gonna try.
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Okay. Way too complex. Just too complex. John, good luck. Okay?
[02:21:21] Unknown:
John,
[02:21:22] Unknown:
you're not making it. Than that. Oh, please, please. Larry, did you have anything to follow-up? Okay. Annette, was that you wanting to say something?
[02:21:30] Unknown:
No. No, Roger. Thank you.
[02:21:34] Unknown:
John, is, go ahead.
[02:21:36] Unknown:
No. I I please. Go.
[02:21:39] Unknown:
Hey, John. Is, are you fighting paying taxes? Are you behind in taxes?
[02:21:48] Unknown:
I don't know, but I got a stomach that's growling, and I'm gonna leave y'all to decide it. John, good luck. William, you and your friends got something out of it. Good to see you back again. I'll send you Mark's email address, and, I will see, y'all tomorrow. If you got burning questions, write them down, hold them till tomorrow, and we'll have a round robin discussion on them at that time. So have a wonderful day. Ciao ciao. Sun's come back out. That's rare these days. At this time of day, I'm gonna go enjoy it. Ciao.
[02:22:20] Unknown:
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[02:23:28] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Here we go. We're gonna try and take another stab at it for a couple hours here on Wednesday, April. April, I was trying to figure out it rang a bell, and then I remembered that it's April 19 that's the big day. Got about ten days away from that. Roger Sales, your host. Radio Ranch, the, title, label, name of our little get together here. We do this little two hour thing six days a week for your freedom, y o u r, your freedom. And, we have some people that assist us. They certainly do. They're extending our reach on a number of different other platforms. We certainly want to recognize them and give them credit where credit is due.
Don't we, Paul? Yes. Absolutely.
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And, we appreciate every one of them. We do have a full complement of streams going this morning, thanks to WDRN productions. We have one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago. We also have homenetwork.TV, freedom nation TV, stream life Tube, and go live TV. Wow. And WDRN, part of the NET family of broadcast services in Fort Collins, Colorado. We're also on eurofoicradio.com. Thanks to our buddy, Eli pastor Eli James, and we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, the matrix d 0 c s Com, where you can find links to Euro Folk Global Voice. You can find the archives, including, the Radio Ranch one zero one series, which are specific episodes that, deep drill deep into specific topics. You You can also find the links to free conference call to join us live on the show. We got room for about a thousand of you, so pack a lunch and maybe pack a dinner too.
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Alright. Yes. Because sometimes you might need to pack a late late night snack around here occasionally. Oh, yeah. So you gotta get rid of those program yeah. You we these people used to stay up and burn the wee end of the candle, folks. In the middle of the night, they did. So I don't know if they still do. They probably still do occasionally. So what? We actually had three rooms going last night.
[00:03:47] Unknown:
Three? We had three rooms last night, and they were connect they were interconnected right up to about twenty after two in the morning. I'm I'm And then I I said I gotta go to bed.
[00:03:58] Unknown:
I'm telling you, if you're sitting around with insomnia and you can't think of anything else, just dial into the old FCC. Might surprise you. Paul was asking me how I was doing. I said, man, I'm doing good. I'm getting my second my my ethylene, methylene blue in. That's how I have to remember ethyl methyl, like ethyl. And so, I was feeling better. And Paul said, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna take it. Well, you know, I was asking you, Paul, do you know what really kicked this into high gear? Not only with Jones, it may it may have been that Chase Geyser is the one that really him and him and Harrison kind of found it and stumbled into it, and everything's developed from there. But, or so I understand.
But, the thing that really kicked it off, maybe even internationally, because it is a rage at this point, was that somebody did a video and caught Robert Kennedy on a plane taking a glass of water and taking two two shots of methylene blue. And they put that out on the web and well, you you can make your own decision off that. So anyway, this is so interesting as you hear more and more people talk about it. Of course, it's somebody plugged Wikipedia the other day. Said even Wikipedia has got a bunch of stuff on it that, is in it seems accurate.
Been around for hundred and fifty five years, and there's really not too much written on it, evidently. I would think that this company, the the one that Jones buys his from, and it's evidently very, very strong, is, an undiluted, is the one that supplies most of the medical industry. The medical industry uses this stuff quite frequently, evidently, when they're probing with dyes to try and find a part of your body, it's used in cancer treatment too, by the way. The first time I heard of that was when, Bo, who was our guy? The the the guy well, I can't remember his name. Our Hollywood Star out there that did Jesus and all that stuff, Catholic guy, Patriot, movie, and Gibson, Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson. Yeah.
And he was on Rogan, and he's just talking in the interview. And he says, oh, by the way, I have four of my real clear close friends with stage four cancer are all cured. And he named off a litany of ivermectin and whatever, and methylene blue was in there. That's really the first time it kind of caught my attention that I remember. But yes, evidently, it has some very adverse reaction on cancer cells. It, is the antidote for cyanide poisoning. It may be the only one. I don't know, but it does reverse cyanide poisoning. That's pretty serious. Carbon dioxide poisoning also.
Do what? Well, okay. Carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah. Okay. These are the things that it does. So, I don't hear a bunch of people coming forward and going, god, you fool me. That stuff is is killing me. Well, I haven't seen any of that. Okay. So, anyway, that's my decision. I'm I'm 76 years old. If it ruins a few synopses or something, that's okay. It makes you feel good. But, I see the stuff as pretty miraculous, actually. So don't know. We'll find out more about it as it goes forward. Obviously, it's gonna start getting studied a lot more.
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But you you don't hear Well, I hope so.
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Suspect. I hope so. That one. Well,
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we'll see. My take on it my take on it, okay, is, yes, it's been around for a very long time, but it is, petrochemical. It was actually, in its its base state. Its original state is in powder form. So all of the, like, little dropper bottles, they are diluted, like, in solutions between 13%. But, I'm looking at it as, yes. It has a medicinal value in specific cases, but, I'm also seeing reports that chronic daily use of it is could be a bad thing. It could be. It could not be. Okay? But then I look at the exposure in the marketplace. Okay? You go to Amazon. You've got 50 different manufacturers.
Dozens dozens of places where you can get Methylene Blue. You go to Google and you do a search on Methylene Blue, and you have five pages of uses, benefits, and all this happy stuff. This is Google. Alright? Okay. Try doing the same thing with, hydroxychloroquine. You're gonna find five pages of things where Google is telling you, oh, that's bad for you. Don't take that. You know? So if you if you Google something that you know is good for you because you found it in many, many, many sources, Google is gonna be telling you the opposite thing. I would bet you Snopes would say that that hydroxychloroquine
[00:09:21] Unknown:
is a bad thing. You know? You know, horse based Well, I'm gonna leave it. Okay. Well, it's a it's a rage, and Paul's got his opinion. I got mine. And, you probably have yours, but it's out there, and you do whatever you want, but it damn sure makes you feel better. Yes. Hold on just a second, Julie. And, all of the others that you were citing on Amazon and stuff, the one that Jones is selling is the master one that sells to all the medical people, evidently. And they said that all the other people water theirs down and that theirs is not. So also Right. If they're behind that on that biggest scale of Jones' platform, if there was anything real negative about it, they'd be putting disclaimers out.
You bet your ass. Well, here's
[00:10:09] Unknown:
what I'm saying. If I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Disputing. I'm not disputing its medicinal value in specific cases and in limited dose. But there are people that are taking thirty, forty drops of this stuff every day. That's ridiculous. It's a pound Okay. Of it's a pound of cure when an ounce of prevention would be necessary. Okay. Alright. Doctor Paul says
[00:10:38] Unknown:
ounce of prevention, pound of cure. What does doctor Julie say?
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Well, the first pharmaceutical drug ever developed was methylene blue. It's a toxic chemical, and this comes from, doctor Ariana Love, who's a dear friend of mine. The toxic chemical that was manufactured in 1876 as a synthetic textile dye, to dye fabrics, clothing, papers, and leathers. Right. That's what it was. Yeah. It it who's behind this is the Rockefeller Institute. Anything with Rockefeller on it is, in my opinion, not good. But, you know, they they use it in, you know, Africa, poor countries and stuff as a treatment for malaria and gonorrhea because they can't afford any other treatment. But, I know that some people have reported that it makes them feel good. So, they're I don't know. I would not take it.
But, you know, like he said, we we all make our own decisions. We got free will. Free will. To your own.
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Well, I'm waiting to see the multitudes come forward and show how how harmful it is to them and give testimonials. So we'll wait on that. I'd like to see a little bit. I,
[00:11:58] Unknown:
I highly recommend, if you're not feeling so well, is find yourself a place where you can, get an infrared sauna treatment because Yeah. That's that is incredible.
[00:12:11] Unknown:
I yield. Well, I may, yeah, may combine real well with this. So you don't know. Anyway, it's out there. It's popular. I'm, I'm taking it and, loving it and endorse it, and these other folks around here have apprehensions, and that's good. But I would think if there was negative stuff there, you'd see much more of that on a much wider scale. Time will tell. So, good morning, everybody. I hope everybody's doing good on the ninth. You got a comment on that, somebody?
[00:12:39] Unknown:
Yeah. One more quick point. One more quick point. I mean, the the chronic use, daily use, that's kind of a new thing. There aren't really any long term studies on on that. And No. We don't. What it does is it supercharges the serotonin, levels in your brain. But, I'm looking at that as, it's a hormone modifier. And anytime that you you start messing with the body's hormone balance, you're actually teaching the body to get lazy because it doesn't have to work so hard to make serotonin or melatonin, because there here comes this magic booster thing. It's kinda like energy drinks and caffeine.
You know? The the body doesn't have to race its metabolism because it knows you're gonna reach for a monster energy drink less than six minutes after you wake up. I'm thinking that if if you have a day where you're feeling blue, okay, if you have a day that you're feeling sluggish, okay, grab the methylene blue, put a few drops in a glass of water, drink it down. Okay? It'll brighten your day, but don't do it chronically. Otherwise, you're gonna you may have daily repetitive blue days where you have to supplement your serotonin with methylene blue. And, I'm Well, thank you.
Anything anything, even no matter how good or how bad it is in moderation is not earth shattering. Just make your own decision.
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But also the other things that I have heard that it does is it straightens out, your mitochondria. There's mitochondria malfunctions, and that's part of the that's the energy engine of the cell, and that it corrects, not only mitochondrial dysfunctions, but also, toxins and gets toxins out. So we'll see as we go forward. I like the stuff myself, and, makes my life a little bit better at my age. I love I love it. For $10 a bottle, $10 a bottle is what I'm paying for it from our dock down here. It's made in Columbia. Probably not as strong as what Alex is selling.
Now, mister g, you called me yesterday. I tried to call you back, and neither one of us connected. How are you doing this morning?
[00:15:04] Unknown:
Okay. It was, I was looking for a solution. My wife, doesn't have a thyroid because of thyroid cancer. She had to have it removed. And, we were looking for some way to get her the armor natural thyroid medicine because the artificial, the synthetic stuff was just making her really mad.
[00:15:27] Unknown:
So There's some stuff called found a solution. Call call Lugar or Lugan or something that is for that?
[00:15:36] Unknown:
Well, it's called it's called either NP or Armour or thyroid. Okay. Well, I may be I may be wrong, but there's some stuff that's called Lube. Here, you gotta have a here, you gotta have a prescription for it. And these Really? These crappy doctors, they won't prescribe it. They said, oh, no. You gotta use the synthetic stuff, and she just doesn't react well to it. So but we we think we found a doctor locally that will, that will take care of her for it. So I was calling you just to see if you if anybody on the on the show might know, because I know a lot of people are into natural stuff and, you know, but she is she's a she's a naturalist and, Yeah. Yeah. She tries to put it out. As much as you can with natural. Yeah.
And, so I think we can handle yeah. Okay. You found Well, she's not a really bad I think we're okay. Yeah. We think so. Yeah. A DO. And then you were talking about this methyl methyl, methylene blue. Yeah. It kinda sounds like the stuff we used in the military was called, we called it MEK, but it was methyl ethyl ketone. And that stuff, if you weren't using you know, if you got around it when you weren't using a respirator, then we used it for painting aircraft and whatnot for diluting, the the paint that they used. That stuff would put you it would put you on cloud nine fast and, you know, we have to be really careful around it.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe it's same stuff. And then no. No. And then the hydroxychloroquine when I worked in the, when I worked for the CDC in the malaria lab, on the on the phone, on the meth in the, in the malaria lab, we had to take hydroxychloroquine every single day because Sure. We were working around, mosquitoes that may have had malaria. So, and then they're they're bothering me. They took it for months at a time and never had any side effects. So it's not surprising. It's probably one of the safest drugs out there.
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Surprised they didn't make you start drinking gin and gin and tonics every day. You may wanna check into it. I'm not sure of all of the, things that it's supposed to affect, but you may wanna look into it, Tom. It's, pretty interesting stuff. It's unusual because I've never heard of it all all, you know, all the time and then boom, all of a sudden, it just comes out of left field. Evidently, there we'll find out. I just don't know a lot about it other than what I hear. But I can't imagine Jones or this company that supplies all the medical field, if there were, would you say, black box warning things to be said about it, I would think you'd be hearing it because they would be covering their ass for liability.
And you haven't heard any of that. As you say, go consult your your doctor if, a, you're on prescription drugs, and, and I think it has something to also do with niacin, but not sure. Haven't done the studies. Like I said, I'm not taking any prescription drugs or any of that stuff. I'm 76.
[00:18:43] Unknown:
I'm in pretty good health all in all of that. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah.
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And, so I figure I got a good ten or fifteen years left. Hell, man. I'm a go out with a bang if this stuff makes you feel this this good. So each to their own. Yeah. The only thing the reason I take here, I take it every two months. I take a shot for,
[00:19:02] Unknown:
I have a I have, a cinephilic asthma, which is high in cinephiles, which basically is an overload of white blood cells in my in my lungs. And for for years, we, you know, talked to the doctors. Hey. What about this? What about this? And they just wouldn't you know, they never tried it, and then we moved to Texas and found a allergist who we brought it to their attention, showed them my blood work. And, he said, well, let's give it a shot. You know? I'm doing no no pun intended. And, it's called Fasenra, and I take a shot every two months. And it took it got rid of about ninety ninety five percent of my asthma symptoms. No. That's good. Just unbelievable.
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Yeah. I hearken back to recently two years ago when the wand came along. Remember how pan how Jeff Rents panned the wand? Oh, god. It's gonna kill people. Leave them laying on the side of the road. Anybody had any damage from the wand? Oh, well. By the way, I had a very interesting experience yesterday, Tom. It kinda rejuvenated my faith in mankind and, especially Ecuadorians. I've got a couple of wands down here that I've had and let different people use them for different things. And one of our our favorite gals, they're a younger couple. They're in their forties and lived in Atlanta and just nice as they can be. And, she's one of those girls that was raised around brothers and a real strong father figure, you know, and just, like, fits in real good with the with the guys, you know. And she's a sweetie, but she's got, edema in her feet, which her feet are swelling and to feeling like they're sticking her with pins or something.
And so, anyway, I had the, an extra wand over at the docks where I've been going over and getting drips and buying this stuff. And so I went over there, got vitamin c and DMHO on Monday and to get specifically to get the wand so I could bring it to her the next day at lunch. So yesterday, I'm really excited about being able to get it to her because she's been real miserable with it, not herself at all. And, and I think this was Kathy's, John John's ex partner, Kathy, that has passed. This was her first problem. Somebody got her a wand because she had a demon in her feet, and it just, boom, took care of it very quickly. So anyway, I'm anxious to get that over there to her yesterday, and I leave after visiting with you guys for a few hours and, get in the cab, get a nice cab driver. It's about a $2.50 cab ride over there. And I gave him $3 to get a little propina is the word in Spanish for tip. And so, he was thrilled about that, and I got out of the cab to go into this, place where we eat and gather and damned if I didn't leave the damn wand in the cab. And I'm so busy thinking about giving him a tip and getting out of the car and all that, and I just did boom spaced it right there on the on the blasted seat, and I walked out. Well, after I cut shut the door and he took off, I mean, I didn't take two steps before I realized what I'd done. And by that time, it's downhill, and he's gone.
I'm thinking, oh, man. And, mad at myself feeling, you know, really bad. Like, you you know, when you get nervous or upset, there's three times more nerve endings in your stomach, in your gut there than there are in your brain. And that's why people's, stomach gets in knots as your brain is throwing off all that pressure down there and letting your belly handle it. Well, I was having that kind of a reaction. I was so mad at myself, and I'll be damned if in about ten minutes, the cab driver didn't come back looking around the restaurant trying to find me and brought the wand back. I tried to give him $20 twice, and he wouldn't take a penny.
So I thought that I've had a couple of incidents like that happen down here, and I was, quite pleased. As I said, it re, reinvigorated my faith in humanity a little bit. So now we've talked about methylene blue, and we've done all that stuff. We've eaten up about twenty something minutes of the show. Good morning, folks. The show's really about you and your freedom. We just get off on these other topics occasionally because they're lab topical or interesting or have general applicability to our, audience. So, we got any new folks here today that might have questions or what? I know I got William's email, so I did return that this morning, William, and put you in touch with our buddy Bob over there in Okeechobee who likes to know all the people in South Florida that join our group.
I would love to see all you know, we've got one of our students is a, we haven't heard from him in a while, like Lauren, but he owns a Greek restaurant over in Tarpon Springs. And, boy, if you could all get, something cooked up where you could meet at his restaurant, I'll bet you'd have a wonderful time and get a dynamite Greek meal. But Chris is down there now, retired out in Nashville and, all those folks. So welcome to you. Did somebody have a comment there a second ago? Roger. Yeah. Yeah, Roger. That was Hey, though. Me. I,
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Oh, okay. I just wanted to say that if you're getting energy out of this, you know, the the methylene blue, is a precursor for, like, I don't know if your blood is real bright red. But there's a either. There's a disorder where the blood starts to get browner, and it's not carrying enough oxygen. And what the methane blue does is it helps you carry more oxygen. It's a precursor to it. It's not Yeah. Directly responsible for it. Mhmm. Uh-huh.
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Okay. Well, that's good to find the information. Mention that. Thank you. I mean, if it was real harmful, there'd be people already saying something about you'd be hearing a squawk all over the place and alerts out of the whoever.
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Larry, good morning. Good morning. I was just gonna say, you'll be glad to know that, your old friend, Brent, was burning the midnight oil in the middle of the afternoon, and he had a conversation with William and Tony for, like, three hours. They're pretty interesting people, and, they, they just talked about a lot of different subjects. So they're definitely not wet behind the ears.
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Okay. Fantastic. Well, we're well tickled to death to have them, and, we love new people coming in just for Brenton and and not Brent, Tony and William's sake. The reason for that is because of what my, our, particularly my law teacher, John Benson, used to say from the podium up there when he was teaching and and giving those seminars, and he'd say, the only way that I can protect my liberty is to help you protect yours. Now that's a real simple, straightforward, pretty hard to, not understand that, that statement, and we, we want love to see new people come because you strengthen our position.
And the more of us that we get understanding this, and that's why I stress the educational side of this. I don't this ain't a paper deal. Well, okay. What do I do next? What step next? Oh, okay. And they're gonna go off and file their paperwork, and we'll never hear from them again. Here's the problem with that. Or paying somebody to do this for you. If you pay somebody to do this for you or it's just a step by step, I got no skin in the game, then nothing changes. Oh, yeah. You've got a piece of paper in, but you don't know enough and understand enough to know what it's done for you. If somebody came up to those people that paid David Strait four hundred dollars for that 31 page thing, well, exactly what is this? How's it operating? What does it do for you and why? Well, they're gonna look at you like you got a third eye. They don't know. They paid somebody a pretty good little sum of money for my $400. Ain't the end of the world, but it's, you know, you go get a couple nice meals on it. And so you pay him $400 He he gives you this 31 page thing. You send it in.
You don't know why. You don't understand stuff. His stuff's real complicated. And here's the real kicker, is nothing changes. The the world doesn't change when you do this. I mean, your neighbors aren't gonna come up and congratulate you. The the people, the cops aren't gonna stop you on the side of the road for some go, oh, yeah. I forgot. Yeah. You filed an affidavit. So go on. Everything's alright. None none of that stuff's gonna happen. Okay? So if there's gonna be change, which is what I'm here for, I'm I'm here. My goal is to affect change in this world, and I think we can do it. This is a powerful medicine, but it's also very hard to present to people for a myriad of reasons. Regardless, if you don't learn the information, then nothing changes except the money you paid, the the currency pardon me.
I should follow my own rule. Right? The the currency that you paid me left your account and it came to mine. That was the change. You never learned anything. So, if if some of your friends go, well, well, Frank, what did you do that that is so important here? You go, I don't know. I gave this guy $400. I listened to a bunch of confusing stuff. I never understood any of it, and I think I'm free, but I don't really know. Well, that's no good. You're not influencing anything. You're not affecting anything. So that's why I stress learn the information. The information is the key to your freedom here. The better you get this internalized and you understand it, and if somebody asks you a question, you can turn around and snap answer them. When you get to that point, you're really free.
But if you don't learn the information and you can't defend your position, well, you ain't got Jack Doodly Squad. K? And and if that's right, then you can't explain it to anybody. You don't understand it yourself. You can't defend it if you're challenged. You if this thing crashes and Trump's little plan goes astray here, where this message is gonna be need to to be out there so that we can correct the mistakes that allowed it to happen in the first damn place. So it's very important. That's why I don't charge you for for this. It's one of the reasons. I want you you're gonna pay me, but you pay me by internalizing the information and living it. Because if you're gonna be free, you really wanna be free, you gotta live it. And you can't live it and truly be free unless you know the information, can you?
No. You can't. Roger? Yes.
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Thomas? Is that Thomas? Quick comment. No. I had a quick comment for Tom and his wife. He's looking for a natural therapy or Oh, well, that'd be
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Right.
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Look up, urine therapy.
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Okay. Urine therapy, Tom. You can substitute your methylene blue. Yep. You can substitute your methylene blue with your urine. Or if you wanna IV or methylene blue, you might can get both. Roger. Because you will pee blue for a couple of days. Yes.
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Yeah. One of the things I learned about William is he's a reader. He's got, like, 6,000 books, and he loves to read. Right. And, one of the things he he wants to know is if you say something to him, he wants to know he wants you to back it up with the source. Jack. And, I'll you know, maybe you could remind the audience how everything that you've been going over for. I can't remember how many years you say it's never been rebutted.
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Not one. I mean, I've never had one fact because these are facts that I'm putting forth. Okay. This is my conclusion or a conclusion or the conclusion, and here's where we source it. And that's why I always give you guys the, the sources. And I agree with William, you know. But never one time in all these years has anything been rebutted, or I might give a guy you know, we used to have Murr around here with the pronunciation police. And if you pronounced anything according to the police wrong, boy, they rode right into town and corrected you. But outside of that, we hadn't had, you know, too much of a date wrong or a name wrong or a place wrong, but nothing substantial.
And neither so with John. I mean, you know? So I remind you again, I think I told William and Tony this when they first popped up here. This isn't Roger's opinion. I I would never know this and understand it had it not been for John Benson knowing all this old law and me being very dedicated as to wanting to find out what's wrong in the world and why it works that way. So you're looking at over the result of what you're presented with here is mainly the research of, three men, John, Glenn, myself, over a hundred years' worth of our lives, our adult lives. The most important part of it, three men's lives spent researching this stuff trying to understand it.
Yeah. And, you know, I think we've got it down better than anybody else in the world on our side, anyway. Nobody ever knew there was a feudal system even though the hints are everywhere. Okay? You can look at Colonel House's message found with Woodrow Wilson's possessions. We will yield secure them by utilizing the ancient pledge. Okay. What's the ancient pledge? Well, it's feudalism. Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope where he had access to the CFR's internal papers for two years to write his book. And he said the, the leaders of the world's financial system met in regular secret sessions and fashioned the world economy in a feudalist type system. That's Carole Quigley. He had access to the damn records.
We don't hear anybody say, well, I think pretty much, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're gonna have the world financial system fashioned in a feudalist system, you're pretty well gonna need some serves. I'm pretty sure. K? So it's everywhere where you look, but nobody ever put it together before. And that was the brilliance of these people all these many years ago setting this up like they did. I I think this plan I think this plan, Larry, was cooked up, if not, then at least in the eighteen fifties. Maybe before that, but certainly then. Yeah. What you got, Larry?
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Yeah. To go along with that, in case Tony and William are listening or any other new students, Please explain the caliber of men John and Glenn were, as far as how Glenn was able to win some very important court cases. He wrote some type of, brief. Glenn
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is amazing. And John was too, but he was not necessarily a writer. Glenn's the writer. Glenn's, hola. Glenn's, statement about John was if John were to write a book, it would be one continuous sentence from the front cover to the back cover. And and but Glenn's a excellent legal writer writer in general, but excellent. The reason my book is the caliber book it is because Glenn and John, they collaborated on it realizing what we had. Glenn won a case at the Supreme Court when he was in prison for another inmate. And the the you have to file a certiori through an attorney, I guess.
And, so they had found he wrote the case, got the the situation, wrote the case, and they found an attorney in North or South Dakota. I forget which one. Anyway, he, submitted the case to the Supreme Court. They won, and the state bar gave him a big plaque that was on the wall behind his desk and the so and so, was the only attorney in the history of the state to ever win a case with the Supreme Court. And the attorney goes, well, hell, I didn't even write it. So, Glay had, they wrote, another Rico case for a inmate friend of his, guy he's still hanging around with up there in the Dakotas, used to own a big trucking outfit somewhere in the Midwest, and the Teamsters, screwed him out of it and got him thrown in jail somehow.
And, so, he met Glenn. They they wrote this RICO case, and, the opposing attorney came, flew all the way up there to the facility in Northern Minnesota and offered them $3,000,000 to, to make it go away, and they refused. I don't know whatever eventually happened with it, but Glenn's exceptional too. I imagine that probably either Tony or William have heard of a guy named Roger Staubach, famous Dallas Cowboys. He wrote won the Heisman trophy at Annapolis and went on to Nice to meet you. Set records in the NFL that probably still stand. Well, Glenn tutored him through Annapolis. They were in Annapolis at the same time, and Glenn literally tutored him to the Heisman Trophy.
And the reason I know that is when I was going through the course, one of his Annapolis classmates was going through their guy named Tim, and he's the one that told me all that stuff. Glenn's very modest about it. I know when, Trump gave Roger Staubach the medal of honor here in that last term, and Glenn said, you think he'd let me wear it for a little bit? So both very interesting folks, highly dedicated, highly intelligent, and, as I said, they knew or should have known. If they would have known about us filing that affidavit with the secretary of state back in the nineties, we may live in a different country right now. That's how powerful that is in the scope of the history of what happened. Somebody was clearing their voice. Did you have something to add? Was that you, Larry?
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Hi, Roger.
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Look at there. Is wait. Hold it. You're throwing me for a loop. I'm a have to do is this pretty? Is it pretty? Robbie. Oh, okay. Hello, Robbie. How you doing, miss Good morning. Hanging in? Well, you don't come around enough for me to recognize your voice. So, yeah, you're going with you. You got some great I'm always listening.
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Yeah. I'm always listening. However, I can't sit at my computer. I'm too my grandfather used to call me switch o britches, you know, because I don't sit still. It's still very long. But I heard something very interesting. Everybody will be very interested in. Now we all we a lot of us know about this musician, this country guy. John Rich. Right?
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I saw him interviewed the other day briefly.
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Oh, well, I well, I posted in the chat, and I can send it to you a full podcast in which he was at a dinner with Donald Trump. Yes. Correct. Donald Trump asked him, the question, why do people boo at me at my rallies because of the vaccines?
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Robin Robin, let's get it in our time frame correct. This is after his first term and when he was running in the interim before he got elected the second time, it was in that middle time frame that this happened. Go ahead.
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Okay. And I I would be very grateful if I could play this six minute clip for you where you can hear Donald Trump response to John's, answer. And I just I'm just blown away by this John Rich. He is just one powerful guy. As I say, I did post the podcast I did post the podcast in the chat, but let me just play this and see if you can hear it. Hold on a second.
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I don't know if we'll be able to hear that. We'll find out, Paul. Well, yeah. Let me know. I did see I see I saw the comment yesterday. Play it and see if it's audible.
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Okay.
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God bless you. They will try to kill you with treatment. Nah. I can't hear it enough.
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Paul But hold on hold on a second. He's Young rich went sat down with the president.
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Well, president Trump was proud.
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Well, if you put the link in the chat, I'll grab it, and I'll Okay. Paul's gonna grab it, Rob. You can't hear that. It's very, inaudible over the air Yeah. To get get messages like that played. But I can tell you, Paul, get it and be looking for it. And, it he's a bit he's evidently pretty big time musician. Right? The country guy or what?
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Yeah. Country guy. Well, Paul, I can send you a link where the exact timing is because it's, you know, it's over an hour. Tell him tell him what time your your
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what you're gonna play for us is at. You can put the cursor there and give him a time.
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Okay. Paul? Hello, Paul? Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh. I this is from another not that podcast, but another podcast where I heard it from, and then I found the full podcast. So I'm gonna send you the link. Should I send you the link or post it in the chat? Send me the link to the time offset where it starts.
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Okay. I'll do that. Where the where the spot that you're referring to starts. And
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Yeah. It's it's from coach it's from coach Dave. If if anybody knows about coach Dave Daubenmire. Don't He is tremendous.
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Okay. You got how are you gonna send that to him, Robin?
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I'm gonna send him an email. Yeah. Okay. And it's Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll I'll fill this It's Ken.
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It's 21 chat in FCC.
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Oh, yes. I can. It's twenty one minutes to twenty seven minutes, and I'll post that in the chat right now. Okay. Put that. Paul can get it pretty quickly, and we'll get the team sync up there.
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Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. While they're looking that up, I just wanna know, Sandra from California brought this information for last night that the acting commissioner, Melanie Cross, k r a u s e, she resigned, and so now they don't have a commissioner at the IRS. So within just a few short months, three commissioners resigned. You got Orfel and then O'Donnell and now Cross. Good. Just FYI.
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That's good. They're not gonna Hey, Roger. Setting them up and knocking them down. And that is Waheed. Are you in the bathroom, Waheed?
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No. No. No. I haven't started work yet, but I left something from Catherine Jane Catherine Austin Fitts in the chat. Catherine Austin Fitts has some very, deep thoughts on the new technocracy. She says it's not a technocracy. It's a new form of slavery that they're building up. Check out that in the in the chat.
[00:42:50] Unknown:
She need Catherine needs to open her mind and learn about the slavery she's been in, and we've been in for ninety two years. Then she can talk about the next slavery. Okay? Now this fellow we're gonna hear from, boy. I can't remember his name. King? Something. Evidently, I never heard of him, but I don't pay attention to music too much anymore.
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But John Rich. Pretty
[00:43:17] Unknown:
okay. John Rich. He's evidently pretty pretty famous in the country music thing, and he plays the large venues like some of those guys do. You know, they might get, $10.10, 15 thousand, something like that in a in a venue to play for. Well, of course, Trump is doing stomping around, and he's got forty, fifty plus thousand people waiting outside for hours. And, well, I won't I won't ruin the story, but that's the interchange between this country guy and Trump who really admires him. I don't know if he likes his music or whatever, must. But he's asking him and he asked him the question, why do people boo when I mention the vaccine?
Now this is for all you Trump people, you Trump haters out there. He did that fast stream thing, and he did. He's responsible for COVID. No, folks. He was lied to. They tricked him. They told him, and the reason we know this, this is not speculation. This is a fact because the great Robert Barnes, who we were talking with William and Tony about yesterday, I'll try and send you some of his stuff where you can find him, William. The great Robert Barnes picked up a whistleblower suit. It's another Key Tam. I believe it's a Key Tam suit. And, down in, Southern Texas, Brownsville or some place was the federal court, and, they forced Pfizer to release the contract in that court action.
And they promised to deliver a safe and effective vaccine and lied to him up the hill to get him on board and suckered him right in. So, you you know, I just everybody wants to dump on Trump. And, we we come back and find stuff like this right here. Everybody that fast stream thing, that vaccine, that Kobe, and he was in on it. No. He wasn't, folks. They lied to him. K. Roger. I know you wanna hate him. I know all that stuff. But but all that crap is just not right. See? And you should not use false information for any basis on your current perspectives or outlooks.
Yes, Robbie.
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Roger, having been in the the music business myself as well, I would have thought you would have enjoyed that entire podcast.
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Well, I did never seen it. I said just saw an excerpt of it on Alex Jones. I wasn't gonna go hunt it up. Oh, okay. Oh, they oh, I didn't know they played it on Alex. I'll send you the whole podcast. I think you'll like it very much. I got I got I'm sure I would, but I got more I got a line of stuff to watch that goes out to the street. K? Okay. If if you want to. Bruce
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comes up. Mister Bruce, what's going on? Alright. I'm on I'm on, change the wording here. At, 01:00 central time, the the Masters par three contest will be on.
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That's right. The Masters starts today as good as Friday.
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Week. There you go. I figured you'd like to know.
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Oh, I'll be watching on Golf Channel to see what they do. First round's tomorrow. I guess today's a practice round. Right?
[00:46:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, no. They they got a contest with the par three thing. So, anyway, I'll tell you a short story about what happened to me. We were in high school, and I had I was in the ninth grade, and one of the one of the seniors have to be a brother.
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I mean, and Johnny You got a clock. Hold on. Hold on, Bruce. You got a clock in the background. We had one. Okay. Go ahead.
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Anyway, so, they had talked about, you know, where they were accepted to go to college. They're twins. And, and I think it was Tommy that said, well, y'all won't ever guess where I'm going to school. And we said, you know, well, yeah, we don't know what you're gonna do. He said, I'm going to the international, college of golf. And we looked at him like, what the hell are you talking about? We never heard anything like that. Mhmm. Well, he went down
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and graduated. At Augusta? He was at Augusta?
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No. Okay. He ended up in Augusta with he was over the grounds. However, he was in the saw on the grounds. He had his hand in it. Okay? Even the Greeks.
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Right. Now
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he's over the masters.
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Oh, wow. Wow. Yep. Pretty cool. Good connection, Bruce. I got to get in. It is very hard to get tickets to get into that place. Oh, yeah. You know, the only two things Augusta, Georgia is famous for is the Masters and James Brown. Right? And, so, anyway, one Saturday, because of our connections, I got the press passes from the Georgia Association of Broadcasters to the masters. We drove over there and got walked in one of the back gates somewhere around Hole Number 87 or eight or something, and got to spend the whole day there on Augusta. It was a hell of an experience. Now I don't play golf, but I really like golf. And if I had a son or a daughter and was gonna try and get them into some sort of professional sports, a professional golfer would be the goal. K? That's gotta be a hell of a life, man. Going around playing the most beautiful golf courses in the world and potentially making unbelievable sums, you know, just a cool game. And, so the Masters, for some of you that don't know, while we're waiting for Paul to get this video up, was, it was a golf course. It was designed by an old one of the early greats of golf named Bobby Jones, who's from Georgia. And he found that land. They went over there and built that course. And, it's, one of the most beautiful golf courses in the world, really. And, the part of the allure to it I wonder if you know this, Bruce.
You know that when you'll see them play this week, this week, and weekend, they're playing on rye grass. Did you know that? Yep. They plant rye grass, which is a winter grass. And so after we get into the spring, the Masters turns brown. Okay? All all the fairways and everything, they're different kind of grass. And, just it's a marvelous place. So even if you don't like golf, I hope maybe you can enjoy some of the splendor of that place this weekend. It will be a hopefully good tournament.
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It's a jewel. I tell you.
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It's a cool place. I what what amazed me, Bruce, and we walked around for a whole Saturday, you never saw one piece of trash on the ground anywhere on that course. From from the 25,000 that are in there, moving from hole to hole and all that, man, people have such a reverence for that place. They absolutely do not litter. It's it's very impressive. Yes. Who who was trying to say something there?
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Well, we had an r in there and a few video queued.
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Okay. We got William. He's right there from Disgusta. Hey, William.
[00:50:42] Unknown:
Hey. What's up, buddy? Hey, listen. I, I just tagged Larry and Judy to let let you know I bought some more guests on. I have a a Hector on, and I have a Tiffany on, and I have Marshae Brown on. So I just brought some more guests on so they could kinda Okay.
[00:50:58] Unknown:
Listen in. And if they wanna ask some questions, I told them how to do it. I'm guessing. Okay. Great. Well, great, William. Good to have you. I answered your email this morning and, put you in touch with Bob and stuff. To the new folks that he just named off, welcome. If you're brand new, I don't know how what questions you might have. But if you do have any, if you feel comfortable coming forward and asking them, we'll try and address them for you. Otherwise, I highly recommend you go to the website, the matrixdocs, d 0 c s, Com, and listen to some of the interviews. There's a section there called new student section, which has got some of our better interviews. According, it's a subjective thing. But and, if you get the chance and have the time and want to get the foundation, go there's a video there called the Trading with the Enemy Act that's about thirty years old. It was a research project with nine researchers by a veterinarian in Colorado named, doctor Jean Eugene Schroeder. And, it'd been forgotten up in the closet somewhere, and It came up in conversation a couple of years, a year and a half ago. We dusted it off, and Paul ran it through and improved the audio. And if you wanna get the information in a foundational sense that buttresses what we do, then please also watch that. It's about two hours long. It's very good. He's got well, you've watched it, William, more recently. He's got 85 or 90 exhibits in there to prove his points. Oh, that's cool. And basically what happened. Yeah. It's incredible the work they did on that.
What happened is if you ever felt like, the the the government or the agents of government were against you, then you had a good suspicion because what they did was in 1917, by in World War two, they passed a trading with the enemies act legislation and named the Germans the enemy because we were fighting them. And then in 1933, when they bankrupted the country and changed the systems, they took that very same piece of legislation and brought it forward and took Germans out and put citizens of The United States in. So as of 1933, in a previously passed piece of legislation, the Trading with the Enemies Act, a citizen of The United States is openly declared as an enemy of the government.
And that's right. You're right. It's all prudent. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. So welcome, new folks. You there's a lot of information here. It's not gonna happen overnight. The change doesn't happen overnight, but takes time with most people. Take it a bite at a time and a step at a time, and I think you'll be very pleased as you get along the path. Yes, Paul? I got that video queued, and if we don't do it right now, we can't do it before we say goodbye to BOU.
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Alright. Well, go ahead. Let's see. Let's play that and get it out of the way. And, for all you Trump haters, here's a little bit of reality for you. Go ahead. God bless you that you do. They won't try to kill you with the treatment. So then you gotta get rid of that cancer. Yeah. Monday's law. Okay. I'm sorry. So John Rich went and sat down with the president because president Trump was proud of the work that he had done over COVID. And John Rich, see, what if you what if you what if you surround yourself with psych offense? In other words, people are just always telling you that you're doing the right thing, we're in your what what folks, you you you can't you can't operate in that. By the way, that's the average church. They all get together, and they got it right. They got it right.
Nobody else does they got it right. And so if you surround yourself with Paula White's, then you're gonna get Paula White's theology problem then. Right? Okay. So here we go. This is, John Rich sat down with the president, sat down with president Trump. Go ahead.
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Sitting there, and everybody's eating their food and and and president Trump is not president at this at this time, and he's talking to the senators. He's talking about really important stuff. I'm just minding my business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, okay. Sitting over the elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word. Just been listening. And Trump gets to me, and then you've seen him do this move right here. Yeah. I did wherever in the big boardroom. Yeah. That's what he does. He he goes, can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John John Rich.
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Okay. Uh-oh. Video failed to play due to technical issues. Alright. We're gonna have to finish that guy after the top of the hour while I I sort it out. This appears to be a peer tube instance, and, there aren't very many peers for it. So let me, try. Sorry, Rob. Working.
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Try. Well, I saw the little clip that that he was saying that. That's what he said. He said the question. He said, John Rich, just like he said. He said, never calls me Johnny. Calls me both names. He said, why do people boo when I bring up the vaccine? So this is Trump's naivete, ego, whatever you wanna call it. K? But this is where he got lied to and taken behind the woodshed, and these are the instances where he learns who these rotten bastards really are and what they'll do to throw a hitch in your giddy up. K? So, do you is it straight and outable, Paul, or not? Or we have to go at it another day?
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No. I'm getting a bad I'm getting a bad gateway response.
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Okay, Robbie. Sorry. So anyway, well, I wanna go back to, to the new folks that William has brought along. Any of y'all have any questions or comments? You don't have to say anything if you don't want to. If you're not comfortable, we don't bite. But, I did wanna extend a hand to you and say welcome and, see if you had any queries, comments, or any of that stuff at this point. Any of you? You don't have to say anything if you
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yep. Yeah. Hey, Roger. This this is William again. Now, Yeah, William. I did I I wanted to say to the people, I sent y'all Roger's information. I and I've got the the websites in there and the two phone numbers that we can call in on. But the website that Roger was referring to, you do have it in the text that I referred sent you on sent you to. K. The maker Cool. When he I forgot what it was. Yeah. But but please ask questions. I mean, ask questions because, Roger has a wealth of information that we can Well use.
[00:57:30] Unknown:
That's why we're here. It is for your questions. I mean, I've know this stuff pretty well. I've had my freedom since 02/2007 and, I've never had it. Of course, I live outside the country, but I did come back for a couple of weeks here a few years ago to my mom's ninetieth birthday, and no problem. Walk right in. You know? The guy at the airport said TSA guy, what do you what do you what were you doing in Ecuador? I said, I live there. And he goes, okay. There's a whistler. We gotta say, a to a couple of folks, and mister Paul does that. So here you go, Paul. Let's hope you don't find a bad gateway.
[00:58:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm still getting a bad gateway error. Radiosoapbox.com. Thank you for joining us for the first hour. Please follow us into the second hour, and we will try to get that video for you. And 1 0 6 9 W B O U F M, the pulse of Chicago. Thank you for being with us as well. Go to the matrixdocs, d 0 c s Com, and follow us into the second hour by using free conference call, Eurofolk, or Global Voice. Thanks so much. Bye now.
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Bye. See you may tomorrow tomorrow. Tomorrow's Thursday, probably. William, are these folks you brought along here, are they in your area? Are they all over scattered?
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Scattered. I think Hector Hector, are you there? Because I just called Hector right before the call. So I don't know if he got on yet or not, but Hector's out of Philadelphia. Okay. Tiffany down at Saint Pete. Yeah. Tiffany down at Saint Pete, Florida. And who else did I say I had on, Tiffany? Who else was it?
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Because I have three people. Who's the third person? Oh, Eric oh, Eric's out of, Virginia.
[00:59:19] Unknown:
Eric may not be on this yet, though. And, hold on. I sent a text to Larry. I sent a text. I could get the other person.
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Go ahead. Well, we don't wanna neglect them. It's alright if you can't think of their name, but I just wanted to welcome all of them. And, you know, we've been I've been teaching this information in some way, shape, or form since 1992. As I've come to understand it that's one of the reasons I understand it so well, by the way, is because I've been teaching it for that long. And if you really want to and I have people come in, you know, new folks go, well, how do I learn? It's just so much. It's so confusing. Not really. It's pretty easy. It's just new stuff you've never been exposed to before in many instances. But but, I've been teaching this for all those years. And finally, I I understood from the get go that we had two statuses there, and many years. But what I found looking back was my mistake or their advantage, which either way you want to look at it, is they take a concept and they relabel it.
So it may be the same exact thing, but they put a new label on it. And our people, not understanding a lot of this old law, because they don't teach it in law schools anymore for the most part, and, not understanding this technique of relabeling, then they go off and chase the new label instead of understanding it's the same concept. I'll give you a couple of examples. The, what they've done is they took the old state citizen, which you can find replete just all over the old court decisions, state citizen, state citizen. For the first ninety years of the country, we didn't have a federal citizenship, and there were only state citizens.
And so, that goes along. They formed this, they I think that they started the Civil War to do this personally. That's the conclusion I've come to over many years. And then in 1918, excuse me, '68, we get a federal citizenship. It's mainly comprised of former, Negro slaves, not exclusively. And and we'll go into that another time. It wasn't necessarily a black thing. There were other people of other ethnicities that lived in DC and the territories and had been born there. But up until this new fourteenth amendment, they didn't have any kind of political status.
In essence, they were stateless. They had none of those controls. It was a bunch of people that came out of the states to handle the mutually cooperative, things that all these people needed. In other words, all of the states couldn't send an ambassador to London and one to Paris and one to Berlin. So they combined all those. They couldn't all have their own navy. They they did have their own army that was called the militia. But, they combined all these things that they all needed and couldn't afford to do separately into this area called DC, but it didn't have any parameters or anything else, politically, that is, until the passage of the fourteenth amendment.
All persons born are naturalized. That started that whole thing, which was partly a reaction from Dred Scott. You know, the Dred Scott decision was ruled in the eighteen fifties, and it is still controversial today. And so Alright. So that was the hole that they drove the fourteenth amendment through was the lack of any kind of state over DC and the federal territories and the incapacities that were brought forward by Dred Scott. Okay. So Alright. Who had the question?
[01:03:19] Unknown:
Wow. A little confusion here. Yeah. This is William, Roger. Yeah, William. It is William. Cool. So listen. I I do wanna cut you off, but I know you were going to your, to your spill. But, I you know, I've been on a lot of black folks. And so you had mentioned, when I had first came on the show that a lot of this started with, this stuff was was started by black people. I know you were going into the dread sky. Could you say something like that at at some juncture about why you say this all kinda started off black people? I think that's what,
[01:03:54] Unknown:
how you were referencing. I I didn't say it started off. You guys are the people that brought you to the country and made all those absorbent profits that many of these family fortunes are still based on today, they're the ones that did that. Okay? And Dred Scott was very interesting, you know, was slave and anti slave states, and people in congress were worried about which state was gonna be slave or non slave because it would determine, like now, the amount of representatives in the House of Representatives and which way they were oriented and all of that garbage.
Let me tell you before we get right into that, William. Thomas Jefferson had a wonderful quote on slavery, and he said, slavery is like holding a wolf by the ears. You can afford to hold it, and you can afford to let it go. Quite an interesting insight there.
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That one is, you know, I'm I'm familiar with a lot of his quotes. I'm not even familiar with that one. Could you say it one more time?
[01:05:01] Unknown:
Yes. Slavery is like holding a wolf by the ears. You can't afford to hold it, and you can't afford to let it go. This is quite an interesting quote. Expound on that a little? Well, I mean, yeah. It's like the slaves. They couldn't produce all the wealth of the country and the cotton and all the other things unless they had slave labor in those days. We didn't have all this technology stuff and all these machines. So it was one of those conditions where you almost had to have it to continue the country, but you hate it in its moral and ethical turpitude.
K? So it's kind of that dilemma. I guess we could say we've got that same dilemma in a couple other areas these days, but this was directly relatable back to a case called Dred Scott. First of all, the guy that that ruled on that was the chief justice of the Supreme Court. His name was Roger Taney, t a n e y. He was chief justice for about twenty years. He never went to law school, and he was from South Carolina, I believe. K? A slave state, which may have a bearing on his decision here. But the bearing really is not slavery as much as it's a judgment on property and property rights. Okay? And, unfortunately, in that system, the the black man and the Irish and the others, they were enslaved. It wasn't blacks. You guys don't have a monopoly on this victimhood here.
The Irish got a pretty good claim to it too. And in fact, in those days, the Irish slaves would work in the fields. And if they had a black slave, that would work in the house because they had to pay big money for them. Do you know the the amounts of money we're talking about in those days, William? Have you ever heard that discussed?
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You're great. Yeah. What what about a thousand or 1,500 or something like that per slave back then?
[01:06:55] Unknown:
They had about $20 in each one, and they sold them for an average of 2,000 in the 18 hundreds. How much you think a thousand dollars is worth in then?
[01:07:08] Unknown:
That's a lot of money. Now that pardon me, Paul? That's a lot of money. I have that video.
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Okay. We'll get in a second. And so let's not only take that. Let's take it a step further that you don't ever hear many people talk about. You think they just went down to the slave market and bought those slaves, Or do you think they went down and bought the slave and went to the Jewish banker to finance it with the Jewish slaveholder?
[01:07:35] Unknown:
The Jewish the Jewish banker, I'm driving, but the Jewish banker, I'm glad you mentioned the Jewish banker too. Yeah. But those were the dominant slave holders.
[01:07:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they did those plantation, guys. There's only a couple of plantations that had a lot of slaves. But if anybody really did own black men, they own maybe one or two, and they cost them so much money that they considered them part of the family. You know? I mean, there's a lot of black slaves that went off and fought for the South in the civil war. Okay? And Nathan Bedford Forrest, bunch were a bunch of them. William, he's his name came up in our conversation the other day. Anyway, Dred Scott, left a slave state. I don't remember which one, Missouri maybe. And he got up to Illinois, and then they captured him. And he says, I'm a free man. They said, you can't be a free man. You're a black slave.
And that case went to the Supreme Court, and Dred Scott upheld that that conclusion. But remember, it wasn't unnecessarily black men. I mean, he was the object to the session, but it was really, I think, an idea over property rights, at at equally. So that was a big deal. It was highly, discussed. There's a lot of debate about it on both sides. And if you go to one of the definitive case or at least the benchmark case on the fourteenth amendment is called the slaughterhouse cases, William. And, and and so, in the slaughterhouse cases, which is an unusual case, we could go into it now. I'll hold I'll hold it for a minute. I wanna hear what Paul's got and get this video out of the way so we can close that discussion.
But, that was in 1871, the slaughterhouse cases. And there's a part in there if you read it, and it says, this was partly the result of Dred Scott, but it was also much discussion. This is in the case now, and it's 1871. The fourteenth amendment was passed in 1868. So the justices that are commenting on this situation, it's as if we were saying, hey, William. Do you remember when they closed everything down for COVID? Well, that's in all of our recent memories. Well, this was in their recent memories. Okay? And so they're saying the Dred Scott decision, was led up to a part of this, but it was a discussion of that day in DC, in the newspapers, in political circles, and in political journals that no man could become a black man could not become a citizen of The United States without passing an amendment to the constitution.
So that's where I say they were stateless. Okay? So all the territories at that time, including DC, you can't tell me that was exclusively run and occupied by black slaves. So there were other ethnicities. And here's the big thing to take away from this, William, is that, you know, we continue to see this broken down in ethnical confrontations. Jim Crow laws, black, white. White man here, black man here. Well, was it because of their color, or was it because of their political status? And you see the Jim Crow laws, even though it may have been manifested and represented in black and white, it really is where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties back to this formula.
Well, all the whitey were the state citizens that were still under god given rights and constitutional protections. And Jim Crow was the new federal citizen that was the majority black slaves. Oh, wow. Somebody's drilling on my wall. Okay. Well, hold on. I don't know if y'all can hear that. It's pretty I'll get it done in a second. Doing some final work on that apartment. Well, okay. So, anyway, that's a little background on that for you, William. Now, Paul, you wanna play that, and we can come back and talk about the slaughterhouse cases? And maybe in six minutes, they'll be done with this behind me.
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Can you hear that, by the way? Can do that. No. Hear that I No. We can't hear it. You're your noise canceling is working beautifully. Got it. It's, I mean, you could hear it, but, but we can't. Distraction. And I'm sorry about that. I I had an issue with my with my mute button on my microphone. Oh, you have issues. Alright. I I would okay. Okay. Who the hell was that? Alright. Anyways,
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okay. Here we go. Thank you. John Rich Okay. Talking to Alright. John Rich. John. But to the previous, put this slaughterhouse stuff on the back burner. We're gonna come back to it. It's a good topic. Go ahead and, play this Rich, excerpt, if you would, please, Paul.
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John Rich talking to president Trump. I will
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mute. And he asked you he wanted your advice.
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Yeah. So, you know, if you think about, what is the best way to serve someone well? Is it to tell them what they wanna hear, or is it to tell them what they need to hear knowing they're not gonna like what you have to say? Are you serving them well by BSing them? Right. No. You're not. Mhmm. Okay. Start with that. So I'm sitting around a table not much bigger than this one. It's Trump in the center where you're at. I'm just to his left. Herschel Walker is just to his right. Marsha Blackburn, bill senator Bill Hagerty, and Lindsey Graham, my least favorite politician in the world. No.
I'd rather I'd rather go hang out with Tim Walz. Oh, wow. Wow. Guys get right I would jazz it up to you. Sure you're a Britney. Lindsey Graham again. Okay. As as I said in a in a in a post on x not long after that, I said, had had dinner with Lindsey Graham, last night had dinner with Lindsey Graham a few months ago. It took me a week to get the sulfur smell out of my suit jacket. Do you wanna know what I think about that guy? Yeah. Yeah. So We're gonna be sure. Sitting there at dinner This is awesome. We're sitting there, and everybody's eating their food, and and and president Trump is not president this at this time, and he's talking to the senators. He's talking about really important stuff, and I'm just minding my own business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, okay. Sitting elbow to elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word, just been listening.
And Trump gets to Eaton, and you've seen him do this move right here?
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Yeah. Yeah. I think wherever in the big boardroom he does this. Okay. That's what he does. Mhmm. He he goes,
[01:14:34] Unknown:
can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John. John Rich? So I look at him and I go, yes, sir. What what's the question? He goes, well, you do a lot of big shows. You're like, you're an entertainer. Yes, sir. You play for really big crowds? I go, I do. I play for really big crowds for a long time. He goes, well, have you seen these rallies I'm doing? Like, it's thirty, forty thousand people. I said, yeah. It's unbelievable. He goes, so let me he goes, so here's the question. Why are people booing me at my rallies when I bring up the vaccine?
This is the question from the president of The United States. A guy who is very proud at that moment of the fact that he was able to stomp the gas pedal and get that thing out because he's under the impression this is gonna fix the problem. Operation warp speed. That's it. Yeah. Okay. So here's a guy who, to his own admission, one of the biggest egos on the earth. Yeah. And he's very proud of this, and I respect him to there is no limit. Right. But I'm being asked a very direct question. And so, man, I went looked at him and I said, okay. I'm gonna tell you the answer, and you're not gonna like it.
He goes, okay. What's the answer? You're gonna look at me like this? I said, let me start off by saying this. We, the the American people, do not trust the people that you were forced to trust at the time when this was happening. Let's start there. And I said, by the people we don't trust, here's who I mean. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, Fauci, and all the rest of them. I said, mister president, we consider them to be a bunch of murderous depopulationist psychopaths.
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And his reaction was that That's a good way to say his eyes are
[01:16:21] Unknown:
he goes, unbelievable. Unbelievable. That was great. Impression. No. He is stunned that I said that. I said, now let me tell you why they're booing you. I said, because all of them, including me, I said, I would boo you. I would boo you. Did you really You did not. I would boo you. Really? If you brought that up, and here's why. And he's looking at me, and I'm thinking to myself, this is the last time this guy's gonna invite me to anything. Yeah. He's never gonna call me again. I'm throwing massive shade on a former president's Yeah. One in his mind, one of his biggest accomplishments. Mhmm. And and it dawned on me nobody had told the man what I was telling him right now because they all worked for him. They all got something to gain from him. They're not going to tell him this because they're not serving him well.
I don't work for him, and I think a lot of him, and I want him to understand the truth about it. So I said, here's the problem. Here's why they're booing you, mister president. Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even died from it, including me. I said I got members of my own family who were forced to take it against their will to keep their jobs, and now they've got all kinds of problems, big problems, heart problems Mhmm. Lung problems. And he's he he's looking at me, and he he looks around the table, and he goes, this is unbelievable. I mean, he goes, is is this does anyone has anyone else heard this?
Herschel Walker, mister he was running for senate at the time. He goes, mister president, I mean, down in Georgia, my constituents come up at my rallies. And what what John just said, man, I hear it every single day. Looks over at Marsha. Marsha's sitting there going you know, looks around the table. And then Lindsey Graham, who's sitting across so you're here or I'm here. I'm sorry, but you're You're Lindsey Graham. Sorry. You're Lindsey. Hey. Sorry. Lindsey. Oh, yeah. Lindsey Graham You're Lindsey Graham, and you're America.
As I'm going into the part where I said, even in my own family, I have Lindsey Graham busts in with it swishing his chardonnay around and said, mister president, if you listen to conspiracy theorists like John Risch, the democrats are gonna take credit for what you did, and they're gonna beat you in the next election with it. Bruce, you hearing this? Oh. And I so I'm looking at Trump, and he's sitting over there. And he does that, and I looked at him and I said, do not interrupt me when I'm speaking. Do you understand me? You What? And he and he he looked at me and he goes, well, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I go, yeah. But you did.
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Oh. So
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Right now, you look like Wyatt Earp.
[01:19:15] Unknown:
You're you're intimidating. Just chuck us right here. You're Lindsey Graham. Okay? I go I'm holding him. I'm good. Yeah. You're Lindsey Graham. I'm
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gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him as your
[01:19:25] Unknown:
president. I look at him one more time. I go, now let me finish what I was saying. Oh, man. And then I finished it. Okay. That that the Trump ended that by saying, so I guess no more vaccine talk. I said, I think that's a good idea. I said, I think you're gonna learn a lot about it.
[01:19:46] Unknown:
But, yes, I think that's a good idea because that's the only thing that would make us ever boo you, mister president. You're right. I mean, that's one of the things that I think a lot of people didn't agree with him on, and it was Maxine and being proud of it. And Jason actually has a story that's similar to that. Well, Paul, you're gonna pop that down? I think that's the essence of what she was wanting to get across. It's very interesting inside commentary and conversation, isn't it? Little sugar britches. Sugar britches steps forward.
I I can't is that because the old saying, keep your enemies your friends close and your enemies closer? Is that what the hell Trump's doing with that faggot around? I think he's the one that tipped, tipped him off to where they could try and assassinate him a second time because it was made the night before that decision that they were gonna play golf the next day. It wasn't anything that was scheduled. And somehow they found out about that and put that thing into action, and I think it's that little bastard that did it right there. K. Could be. Speculation. Hey, Roger. Bruce. Yes. Bruce. Yeah. Your senators from your home state there, Bruce.
[01:20:54] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You know what you hang around with, don't you? Probably that. Arizona?
[01:21:01] Unknown:
Who who who who? McCain? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were the the Warhawks. Yeah. Yeah. And if y'all don't know, since we've been talking about the USS Liberty a bit lately, it was John McCain's father who was head of Navy Europe that helped suppress all of that that day. Yes. There's many skeletons in the closet to be brought out, dusted off, and put on display. Okay. William, right before, we heard this little excerpt here, we were talking about Dred Scott and what led up to the fourteenth amendment. It's very interesting when you get into this in in-depth.
Okay? Because one thing and I tell you and your friends should they choose to join us and go down this path and learn and become enlightened, is that, well, hell, I feel it's life changing information. Okay? And, you're not gonna learn it overnight. It's a process evidenced by the fact that I'm still discovering stuff thirty something years later that I didn't understand. And it'll just come to you. But the point is if you get enough information in your mind, either your mind and your subconscious activated by God or whatever starts giving you answers. And all of a sudden, you'll be doing something on you some question you've had and, bam, the answer just comes to you, hits you like, upside the head, like a ball peen hammer.
I've had it happen a number of times. Okay? So, anyway, it's a process. Don't be frustrated. Take it a little at a time. This what I wanted to tell you about is one of these cases that's very important. It's called the slaughterhouse cases. It was in 1871. It's what is known as a landmark or a benchmark case because it was or a case of first impression because it was the first case to decide things about the newly ratified, quote, unquote, air quotes, fourteenth amendment. So the setup for the case was, you know, Louisiana, still today. I went to school at LSU, by the way, so I got a lot of love for Louisiana and a little bit of familiarity with it. And, of course, it was part of the Louisiana purchase.
And it was another Thomas Jefferson, a great deal he did right there, but the state of Louisiana has never had the common law in it. Still doesn't today. It's the only state in the Union that doesn't have the common law because it's still based on the Napoleonic Code from those days. K? So norm naturally, there's a lot of French people that had come over, had plantations, this, that, and the other. And French being French, when they'd slaughter their animals and they would, have every all the meat, everything they wanted, and they just had, like, skeletons and and and other parts, well, they go throw it in the Mississippi River. And just, well, there it goes. You know? Like I said, the French, they hang meat out for weeks and all that stuff. So, anyway, it was getting caught in the water intake valve that the city of New Orleans gets its water from the Mississippi.
And so the state of Louisiana passed a law under the public health, which is totally valid, that, if you had a plantation and were slaughtering animals, that the state was gonna set up all over the state slaughterhouses. And so you would have to go from where you normally did that activity and take the animal and everything to the slaughterhouse no matter where it was, might have been thirty, forty miles away, and slaughter your animals there so they could dispose of the remains properly. It wouldn't alleviate this problem. Well, the, a lot of the plantation owners took took umbrage to that, and they started filing these cases in court. And so they there were so many of them that they combined them all together, and that's where you get the plural, slaughterhouse cases.
So they brought that case and took it all the way to the Supreme Court under what's called the Privileges and Immunities Act of the new fourteenth amendment. It's the second clause in the fourteenth amendment. It's one of the most litigated clauses of the fourteenth amendment. And so it went all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court says basically, hey. French French butchers, we, we empathize with you and we sympathize with you, but this act was written for former Negro slaves, and you're white French butchers. So when you got a case that we can decide something on, bring it to us. Otherwise, we gotta rule against you.
Even back then, people still identified it as a black white issue, and it's been that way ever since, William. And the damnedest thing is when you really understand it, it's a political status issue. Whitey got his lie rights from capital g God, capital r rights, and owed capital d duties. Jim Crow got his civil rights from the federal government. They're small r rights, and they owe their small d duties to the federal government, which gave them this status. And, by the way, be sure and pay your taxes. Okay? Follow all the rules we're gonna lay down for you. Okay? But it wasn't a black and white issue. It was a political status issue.
That's amazing, isn't it? All these years, I they may be maybe it's brought up in Plessy v Ferguson, which is the most important Supreme Court case in this that you've never heard of because you've never heard of another researcher bring it up. Have you? Plessy versus Ferguson? Yeah. I heard Plessy versus Ferguson. You've well, you've done a lot of research, so you know about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the audience probably now. Even to the point where in that very pivotal, very important case, testing the fourteenth amendment of the Jim Crow laws, Plessy v Ferguson. And here's the story behind that. You may not know the this, William.
This was to directly confront the Jim Crow laws. It was in 1894, and, that was done by a very well, at that time, I guess, successful liberal newspaper. I don't know the name of it. This is the information Lauren brought us that I referenced yesterday. They had a commemorative of Plessy a few years back, and Lauren saw an article on it and sent it to me, and we got a lot of this background information on it. Well, there was a progressive newspaper in New Orleans, and they had an extensive reach up the East Coast. And they took in a donations and raised $3,000 in those days to bring this case and finance it. Well, they did. And the first thing they did was they went out and found Plessy.
They had to search to find Plessy because he was one tenth black and nine tenths white. And they brought Plessy to the railroad station. They had they hired the detectives to arrest him. They had their newspaper and the other newspapers there, and they trotted Plessy onto the white railroad car and then sent the detectives in and arrested him. And they brought that to the first level of state court there in Louisiana. And, the judge ruled against him, and his name was Ferguson, so they enjoined him in the case. And it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Plessy v Ferguson.
Like I said, if you've been researching this stuff and you've ever found anybody that mentions this, it's a rare instance. Because I'd I'd never heard anybody mention this before in our circles. You know? And this is the whole thing right here because it came back and said the decision of the court was separate but equal. Separate but equal. So, William, I'm gonna put you on the spot. How can somebody with civil rights be equal to somebody with god given rights? How can black drinking fountains and white drinking fountains be equal? Well, they can on the surface. Right?
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Yeah. No. They can't. But yeah. Well, I never had no much of a problem with segregation. I wanted to just put that on the record.
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Okay.
[01:29:32] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm I never had a problem.
[01:29:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Well, well, but the thing is is, Plessy, when it said separate but equal, but you can't justify that in your mind the way it was executed with separate facilities for the races. So what had to be for them to be equal? They both had a political status. One was the old state status, and the new one was the new federal status. And that's the only way you can connect those as equal at least that I've ever been able to figure out. Now that was their big obstacle right there because they can't have that there where they ask you the question, hey, William. Are you a citizen of The United States or a state citizen or a national? But see, they can't ask it through you that way.
They can only ask it with, are you a citizen of The United States? A leading question, which is fraudulent on its surface because it lacks full disclosure. They're not telling you about the other one. Right? So they had to overcome that. Yes. Guess what they used to overcome Plessy v Ferguson was a really important case in the fifties called Brown versus Board of Education.
[01:30:48] Unknown:
You heard of that one, William? Heard of that one? Okay. Yeah. Rogers. Over but it's a ten minute one more time. We're at a restaurant. We just grabbing some food, Rogers. I'm sorry. Say say that last part again.
[01:30:58] Unknown:
Brown versus Board of Education is the case they forced to the Supreme Court to overturn Plessy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with Brown versus, Yeah. Okay. So now we got now we got Brown versus Board of Education. You you you know who, the guy that pro prosecuted it was later named to the Supreme Court first blast black justice. Thurgood Marshall. Thurgood Marshall. He he prosecuted that for the NAACP. And after they overturned Flessey, they gave him a seat on the court. So job well done there. So they did that. And what's the thumbnail of Brown versus Board of Education is equal in the classroom, equal in the society.
But notice they skewed it down to the federal citizenship. They could just have easily have said equal than the white country club is equal in the society, but they don't wanna take it up. They wanna bring everybody down. So Brown v Board overturned Plessy. Now they can ask you, hey, William. Are you a citizen of The United States? Because behind the citizen of The United States is hidden the all state citizen, but they don't identify it. They've gone to great lengths to hide it. Hey. Now, Roger, let me just intervene. Like, Roger?
[01:32:26] Unknown:
Yes. Let me just when you because when you you are sharing this information with us, if you have information on the site, can you, notate that so my people can be able to,
[01:32:38] Unknown:
go back and represent, do further research, you know? You know, William, one thing I don't like to do is write. And so, no, that's not there. You're gonna have to listen to the shows. They're my book. Well, it doesn't go into it this deeply. See? It's just because over the last few years have I been able to understand it enough where I can look below the surface of some of these other really key issues here. And here's a big one. Okay? And part of the reason I wanted to tell you all this and explain it to you in some detail is because when they when I started putting this, I used to think it was an either or, but they've got it as a both or the same.
K? And so as I came to realize that and think through some of the new information, well, it hit me 1954. Brown v Board was in 1954, and it kept haunting me at '54, '50 '4, '50 '4. The subconscious hunting, playing with you. Something important here. And then it hit me. And I went back and started researching. And after Brown v Board, sixty days, two months to the day, they put the 1954 internal revenue code in place, and it's with us still. So as I said the other day, the to Michael, the first action they took in 1913 was passing the sixteenth amendment in the spring. They didn't pass the Federal Reserve Act till Christmas, but they passed the tax act first. And here at the other end, they combine and overcome Plessy v Ferguson where they can trick you with the question, and sixty days later, they put the tax in as the end. These are the bookends.
Now this should tell you how important the tax system is because without the tax system, none of the rest of it would operate properly. So there's some insights for you, William.
[01:34:38] Unknown:
Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Listen. Now I've got a, now okay. I know other people got questions, which I wanna be dominating questions that I can set up in, you know, to have this closing with you all day long. So I don't wanna be come to us. We'll have we'll have shows like that in the future. So just look forward to them. Oh, okay. So so I do have another very important question since I have my certain people in my group here. People some of them are shy. Okay? But I still want them to hear your position on this. Okay? Now Yeah. We were talking yesterday and they were the just, a lot of times people equate white nationalism with the nationals.
And there is a distinction, and I'm we're not a I'm not opposed to any white nationalist ideology. I'm not. And most people that I bring on the call won't be opposed to it as well. But can you draw that distinction between because most people think when when we're saying, oh, these are these are these are nationals on the call, they think it automatically is white nationalists. But it's not necessarily white nationalists. Right?
[01:35:41] Unknown:
I think they've no. No. We got no kind of ethnic stuff, man. I mean, evidenced by I heard you and Tony had a hour long conversation with Brent yesterday. Hey. Brent's been a friend of mine for thirty seven years now. Okay? So Yeah. Pretty awesome. I I don't have those color lines. I don't believe I don't let any other people around here at least voice them because I don't think your freedom should be isolated in the ethnic stuff. And, you know, my position with the black man is this. I I love there's a whole bunch of you guys I really like. What I don't like is what they've been able and how they've skewed your culture. K? And I don't think Hey, Roger. Can I say something about Brent real quick? Day, please.
Please, man. I I I don't think you folks like that either, particularly. Okay? So, anyway, that's I I don't have a single problem with any any black man that's No. That that wants to be like other people. Just don't come in with all that gangster shit. You know? Alright. Dave, what do you got? Hold on, William. Hold on. Dave, what have you got to add? Yeah. I just like to say this about Brent. Brent is the white sheep national of his family. Yeah. That's right. Okay. Thank you, Dave. But they've that label is relatively new. They've only come up that years ago. Further back, it was sovereign citizen.
But now it's this white national or Christian national. Well, I'm all three. I'm a Christian. I'm white, and I'm a national. So but it doesn't mean exclusatory to anybody else. I think it's wonderful because what we found here, William, you can come from anywhere in the globe and go through the naturalization process in our country, the legal one. And when you get finished with it, you can get free because anybody that's a national all have access to I mean, that's a citizen of The United States through naturalization, no matter what ethnicity, all have a chance to be free through this mechanism.
I think it's fantastic. We've had all kinds of ethnicities on here. Thai, Chinese, Indian. We've had an American Samoan on here. We hadn't even talked about American Samoan yet, William. So you you guys don't know about all that, but that's where they're hiding everything is in American Samoa. Mirka, what did you have? Roger, I think that,
[01:38:05] Unknown:
what The United States system is doing is try and confuse people even more. And now that a lot more people are learning about the national private individual national, they're trying to confuse people with another word similar to the national, and they're calling it the national list. And those are the ones that act those are the ones that are carrying on, acting like they're superior. They're the superior national of the group, and therefore nationalism. So there's, like, a whole explanation on that, and it's crazy to see that this, again, is another dialectic
[01:38:44] Unknown:
that they're they're using as a tactic against people. Don't don't try and attach any of the negatives to that to our group because I don't believe there are any here, and I wouldn't allow you to Not not on ours. I'm I'm seeing you with this. For some reason. I'm talking probably. Right. Well, I'm talking to William and his new folks there. And just to let you know, we don't pay attention to that stuff, and we expose the liars and what they're trying to accomplish and how they accomplish it and, have yet to put one of those situations forward where we didn't give you a remedy. So we're very remedy oriented, but you gotta understand what's going on and why you're doing this stuff if you're gonna decide to go do it. And it's totally your decision. I'm not gonna charge you. I'm not I I may persuade you a little bit if I can as I want you to. But but, I won't make the decision until you do it. K?
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Because meanwhile, I brought that up was because I'm a tell you the I I can't stand white liberals. Okay? And I don't I don't think white liberals. I mean, so I wanna make sure that that we are clear. We we don't like them. With the white Nationals and white Nashville. I'll deal with them all day long, but I can't stand white liberals. Just wanna I guess you could. Okay.
[01:39:57] Unknown:
You could label us that if you wanted to, but that's what we were before they came up with the label. Alright? Now what I wanna explain to you, because we haven't even touched on this with you and Tony yet. And I didn't even know it when my book was written. Okay? And that's about American Samoa. The way I found this was having to get a passport to move to Argentina. Never had one before. Went down after I decided to make that move and, went to the post office and got a both, 11, a 82 renewal, took them home, put my feet up on my desk there in that beautiful scene of where the family house was, and, looking over the water, not the gulf, but a bay but a bay and a and a bayou, and start reading it and tell William, at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years.
Remember me saying they take the concept and relabel it? Well, I that's what I've been going through. I knew there was these two statuses, but I didn't know what the label was. Okay? And so I can take you and your friends today over to Title 42, you know, is the civil rights code. Right? And go down to sections nineteen eighty three and nineteen eighty six of the civil rights code in The United States code and show you the first sentence of both of those sections said the citizens of The United States are equal to the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. That's right in The United States code today.
I can take you over to the 26 CFR, the code federal regulations for IRS, and show you where it's called the nonresident alien. Change the labels. White citizen, nonresident alien. I can take you over another place. They say you're a territorial citizen over in the eighth, section. So this is an example of them just changing labels to fool you. So when I got that passport in my hand, that application, it said at the top, secretary of state of The United States Of America. Well, I already knew from a previous experience with the attorney general of Florida, the secretary of state, that he had final authority over all matters concerning citizenship.
I knew that because I'd asked him to write a letter saying I was a proud Florida state citizen, And that's what he answered. Can't do that, bud. Secretary of State of The United States has final authority over all, a l l, matters concerning citizenship. And I didn't understand that because I was real green in my first six months back then. All of our heads were spinning from this stuff, but it lodged in my subconscious. And all those years later in 02/2007, when I saw that at the top, I connected it to that sentence in my mind.
Amazing. Okay? That was twenty, twenty five years or more. So right below that, if you've looked at a passport application, we can go over this with you if you had one in front of you, you'll see what's called a warning box. You know what a warning box is in in pharmaceuticals, where it's that rectangular box with that big black line that says warning in capital letters to warn you about something? I'm sure you've seen those, William. Well, there's a warning box in the passport application. It just doesn't have the line around it. They didn't want to accentuate it that much, but they had to put it in there, and I'll explain to you why in a minute. So in there still to this day and in both of the 11 and the renewal, that's important, is this warning box.
And it says you can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits, comma, but you better not lie, or we're gonna hit you with these six or seven sections of the United States code. And it's in a warning. It's not a box. It's just a big warning in capital letters. Well, in those days, in that paper version, it was right at the top of the first page because the oath is at the bottom of the fourth page. And that's where that relates to, but they don't want you connecting them. Okay? So here's secretary of state of The United States, knew he had, final authority over all matters concerning citizenship.
Right under that is that warning box, and the word affidavit was in there. And we'd been using affidavits in all the stock tax stuff we'd been doing. I went, well, I've got an affidavit. It doesn't say why you file them, but it just says you can do it. And so right then, when I saw both of those, I said, I've got these bastards because now I knew what they called it. Because you go over to the oath, and the oath, which they've changed, Tony, the state department changed the oath after I started teaching this stuff on the air. That's a pretty big feat right there. It probably never changed in decades. Okay?
And so it says, I solemnly do solemnly swear under penalty of perjury that I'm a citizen of The United States, and in the old ones, parenthesis, or a noncitizen national, close parenthesis, and have not since acquiring United States citizenship, parenthesis, or US noncitizen nationality, close parenthesis, violated any of the terms and acts and conditions in the instructions on page so and so, parenthesis again, unless explanatory statement is attached, close parenthesis parenthesis. Again, I swear under penalty of perjury, the foregoing is true and correct. Now that's just the way it used to be. Now it's they've reworded it just a bit, not much. They just took but they just changed it slightly.
But they added underneath it, there's four check boxes, and you gotta check those four check boxes before signing it. Now if it's a first time passport applicant, you've gotta go to the post office with an authorized agent to sign it in front of them. And if they don't have one of those, you gotta go to a local judge and sign it in front of him. And we've had that happen. Okay? There are situations where that happens. And so, anyway, I looked at that, and I saw noncitizen national, and that's what I equated to the national. And it was only after the book was published and some of this other stuff that a listener sent me an email about a plebiscite, which is when a whole country votes on something called a plebiscite.
And there was a plebiscite down in American Samoa. And they were trying to get basically incorporated into The US system. Well, it turns out there's this little island down there, William, about looks like an almond, about shape of an almond on the on the map. It's the only unincorporated territory in the system, and so therefore, they have natural rights. Today, if you own land in American Samoa, it depends on who sits in the legislature and passes the laws, and they have a loyal title to their land. If you committed an abortion in American Samoa today, they could convict you of murder. K? So what they did was in 1900, they were taking land over in the Philippines war and all that part of the world, and they got American Samoa, and they left it an unincorporated territory, which means they have their god given rights.
In fact, they cannot get all the goodies that the federal government gives out to its slaves to keep them happy, and they're kinda a little mad about it. They've tried to take it to the Supreme Court twice, and it's never gotten up there, and they can never hear this case. If they ruled on it, it'd blow the whole system, apart because here's what they've done. They took these American Samoans and called them noncitizen nationals because they're nationals with god given rights, but they're not federal citizens and cannot become federal citizens without going through the naturalization process.
There's a bunch of them in The US, mainly in Utah. I guess the Mormons have probably done a good job down there. And, they have limits. In other words, if they join the military, they can't become an officer. If they do civil service, they can only go above such a grade, etcetera, etcetera, unless they normalize. And they don't like that. They think they ought to be Americans. And so that's what they've done. They've taken the American Samoas and called them noncitizen nationals because they're nationals, but they can't be federal citizens without naturalizing. And then they took the state citizen and named it national and hid it behind them. That's what's going on here.
So these are the links that these people have gone to to hide this little national term. And that's why you'll never see them come forward because they've been caught in so many layers of fraud. It's hanging territory.
[01:49:58] Unknown:
Roger?
[01:50:00] Unknown:
Yes. Is that Sherry?
[01:50:02] Unknown:
Yes. And I'm hoping that you will repeat that code, 19831986, because I don't know if it was just,
[01:50:13] Unknown:
nineteen eighty six. 40 two. Okay. Hold on. That's alright. Title 42, the civil rights code, sections nineteen eighty three and nineteen eighty six both start with that same first sentence. So there it is right there. There's Jim Crow again even though they bitch and moan about it right there in the damn United States code. And they don't, you know, overhear them bring any attention to that, though, do you? Of course not. So, William, I kinda given you a drink of water out of the fire. Please. Yes. Could you repeat that sentence that it states? Because that's what cut out. The privileges and immunities of the citizens of The United States are the same as the white citizens.
K? I guess that's okay. William, I gave you and your friends kind of a drink of water out of a fire hydrant here today. I hope I didn't overwhelm you. Okay? Well, evidently, everything's cool. Anybody else? We're getting towards the end of the program here today on Wednesday, the ninth. Does, anyone have anything to add or ask? Hey. I'm sorry, Roger.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
Roger? Yes. I was talking, but it was I had it muted. I'm sorry. This is William. I was trying to respond to you. We but I was talking, and it was still muted.
[01:51:23] Unknown:
Okay. So sorry to give you a drink of drink of water out of a fire hydrant. Did you have any questions on all that?
[01:51:31] Unknown:
No. That was good information. I just wanna be able to, I'm very, very familiar with Plessy versus well, not very familiar with Plessy versus Ferguson. I know it from perspective that you presented it, but I would like to I thought maybe that I could find something on your site, so I can delve into it a little bit deeper. Now for one question, what happened in the Napoleonic Oh,
[01:51:51] Unknown:
there's Mark. No. Hold on. I got a saw going outside. Mark's in the background. I'm trying to hear what you're saying over all this distraction here, William. So that, generally, there are not briefs or anything written on this stuff. I give you it on the air because I'd rather talk where we've got three kinda three-dimensional communication. You could get emotions and and stuff rather than writing. I just don't like writing. Sorry.
[01:52:20] Unknown:
I agree. I agree. I understand. Okay. Okay. Well, did that is that Mark the gentleman that does the show on Friday? Is that who you were referring to? No. No. That that's Brent. This is Mark, our paralegal, who's out in Las Vegas trying to,
[01:52:33] Unknown:
not gamble all his money away and not eat too much of that good food. Hey, Mark?
[01:52:38] Unknown:
Hey, Ron. Okay. Let me decline.
[01:52:40] Unknown:
Alright. Let's see. He sounds faint. You're a little faint, buddy. Can you get to the microphone better? Is that any better?
[01:52:47] Unknown:
No. Okay. I'll I'll see if I can, call in on the phone.
[01:52:52] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, Mark's gonna call in, so we might have a little after hours discussion. We got Brent, who you guys know, now William and Tony, and, is in Vegas. And, our buddy John Kasarab is over there from Los Angeles, and Mark is out there where he used to live from Oklahoma also. So I would imagine those guys are having some good, good bread breaking sessions together, hopefully. We'll see if Mark can get back in here quickly. He was very, very faint. So anybody else got anything here as we, close out today, the ninth? Yes. Lady Linda Louise. Hey. And Hey, sweetie. Yes, ma'am. You certainly may.
[01:53:36] Unknown:
I looked up, eighteen, 1983 and 1986, and it just talks about persons. It doesn't talk about white
[01:53:45] Unknown:
white citizens. Well, I may have my sections I may have my sections wrong. I was pretty sure those were both correct, though. Anyway, in that range right there, there are two sections that start out and, this citizen of The United States have equal. I don't remember exactly how it's worded. I've seen it several times, but go go hunt for it a little bit right in that area. It should it's there. Okay?
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Okay.
[01:54:14] Unknown:
There's Mark. There he is now. I can hear you. Hey, buddy.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Hey. Greetings from sunny Las Vegas.
[01:54:21] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Just a little bit for you. Allergies. I bring You got your allergies a little bit still.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
Oh, well, yeah. I'm doing better, though. I was really sick, after I landed here. I think I had a, allergic reaction that occurred when I got here. But, anyway, I wanted to to point out to William, he's got two fantastic resources. One of those is the nationalstatus.com and then Devon's citizen handbook, which you can find on the nationalstatus.com website. Just go to the search box, type in handbook, and on the, results page, you'll see the citizenship handbook. That has all these cases that Roger's been going over, and you can review them yourself.
[01:55:11] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Appreciate that. I appreciate that. Great. Great. Yeah. You're welcome. And he's he's got it. I'm a little old. Him and Kave going. Ask. You know you know Mark's address, William?
[01:55:24] Unknown:
Not not Mark. No. I don't have Mark's address. Can you, Mark, why Well, can I write?
[01:55:30] Unknown:
It's it's simple, but let him give if you can write, you can write it down. Mark. It's easy to remember. It's easy to remember. It's strawman@mark,allcaps,.com,
[01:55:43] Unknown:
just like it sounds. M a r k a l
[01:55:48] Unknown:
l c a e f.
[01:55:51] Unknown:
Mark, will you mind sending I can send it to you. I can send it to you in an email. Okay. Okay. Email? Okay. Great. Appreciate it. I'll do that. You won't have to fumble around. Sounds like you're driving or you got your folks with you. Yeah. He just Something. Well, our, outro is tailing off here. So for the folks that are on any of those platforms that Paul listed earlier in the program, hopefully, we'll, be able to maybe see you tomorrow again, Otravez in Spanish, on the April 10 because we'll be here, and we hope you'll join us. So see you then.
[01:56:25] Unknown:
Ciao.
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Ciao. Ciao. So, there we go. Show in the can. Another one in the can. Mhmm. Alright. So now who's got questions? I've been running my mouth for pretty much two hours here.
[01:56:41] Unknown:
I got more question, but let me let somebody else talk.
[01:56:44] Unknown:
Let's see if they got some questions here, William. Come forward. Now is your chance. Okay, William. I think you're clear.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Now we're at the we're at the end now. Oh, is the music gonna start playing? I'm gonna have to We know it aren't it just finished. It was very loaded. Oh, the music. Paul got it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So what call you guys turn that music. I I Throw me off.
[01:57:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he doesn't wanna make it so loud. It throw throws me off. So there's a happy medium, but he did pot it down quite a bit today. Anyway, we're in the second part of the show. We call it the after show. And as you guys found out yesterday, hell, it goes to the wee hours of the night sometimes.
[01:57:23] Unknown:
You see this? How much time do you and can you spend with us on this app to show Rogers?
[01:57:28] Unknown:
Well, I generally don't hang around because, you know, quite sitting there talking for two hours and totally focusing is kinda draining on an old man. So a couple hours is about all I usually spend. I can hang around occasionally. It depends on what the topic and how my schedule is.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Just, quickly, as you can, we had mentioned it yesterday. I'm a lot more I sided more with the anti federalist. And so when you were saying something about and I miss I misunderstood it. That's why I had you to clarify that at the beginning of the show where you're talking about when you said that I well, I misinterpreted it. I just misstated it saying that this August, deception and everything began with the black slaves or civil war, but you clarify that at the beginning. Now
[01:58:21] Unknown:
where where's this oh, William. Oh, William. Hold on. There's a secondary conversation going on. I wanna see if we can identify it and gotta get it calm down here.
[01:58:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It's your twenty, but I'm I'm looking for it. Call. I'll I'll pause.
[01:58:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it's really distracting to have that going on in the background when you're trying to focus on questions or some of this complex stuff. The way they finish. Okay. And now I got a saw going on. Jeez. Oh, my Yeah. I think we I wish they'd hurry up and get this construction thing. Yeah. Okay. Now, yeah, it's gone. William, now undo your mute, and let's see if we can field your question here, my friend.
[01:59:05] Unknown:
Okay. I have my background noise, first of all. No. You're you're fine now. Okay. Alright. So just real quick. What I wanted to say was that, now that I got a better understanding when you were talking about the it started with the slave and it didn't actually start with the slave. I believe a lot of this confusion started with the with the anti federalist versus the federalist.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Well, yeah, it's been going on since the start. What's been going on since the start of the country? I mean, do you know that in those meetings on the constitution that they called in, Hamilton back to New York three or four times to go consult with the money powers? So there's a lot of this skullduggery going on all the way back then. As my teacher said, I don't know if you've heard this, William, it's very important. The battle we fight today is the battle we fought since the beginning of time. That is Lex Rex, the law of the king versus the common law or God's law.
The law of man versus the law of God. That's a battle we're in right now.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree. I agree. Okay. Yeah. Because, and I I didn't didn't appreciate Hamilton at all. That's right.
[02:00:16] Unknown:
But we just Yeah. No. No. I wouldn't either. He was a Jew. His father was a Jew. I don't know about his mother. He was born in Martinique or one of those islands in the Caribbean and had a flare for finance and ended up in the early stages of the federal government's foundation and history. So yeah. But it's been going on for a long time, and they even tried to recognize the slaves
[02:00:40] Unknown:
with what? Three fifths of of of for voting purposes and stuff? That's what you gotta say. Yeah. That the South that promote that the South that did that, not the North. I want people to understand that. That was the South that did that. Yeah. Because we don't wanna give any rights. The North didn't wanna give a slaves any rights. Black men, any rights. The North They were they were a lot worse than the plantation owners to them. You know? And then as we mentioned the other day and you knew,
[02:01:07] Unknown:
the biggest slave owner in South Carolina was a black man who selectively bred his slaves. None of the white plantation owners like that. Party, Anthony Johnson? I don't remember what the guys it could be. Well, I'm not sure. I don't know what his name is. I just know he existed.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Johnson actually was in the, the sixteen hundreds. And, he is the one that pretty much paved the way.
[02:01:35] Unknown:
Right. No. I know about him. Yeah. And it wasn't him. It was another black, plantation owner that had become a free man somehow. And Bruce may know about this. Bruce from South Carolina. But, yeah, he they selectively bred their slaves. And, you know, my question was the other day, I think it's legitimate. I wonder how many of these black physical specimens we see in all these athletic positions. I wonder if any of them are related back to that. That's an interesting question. So, anyway, what else, William? Can we answer a question wise for you?
[02:02:11] Unknown:
Let me I just wanna get I need to get some food last time. I'm gonna listen listen a little bit here. Okay. Well, listen. I'm gonna probably do the same thing. I'm starving too. And so,
[02:02:21] Unknown:
we can reconvene tomorrow. And, this Thursday, those are usually kinda down days, and we can take this conversation wherever you wanna go. This why I love new people Excellent. And especially these black folks coming here because I want you to know and I wanna educate you that these people have used you. They've they've you your own kin, fought you and put you on the slave ships in most instances. But once you got over here on the Jewish ships, the Jews sold you. And and and and now they give you a fake idea. They they're gonna give you freedom, and they got it set up where they can use you to enslave everybody, for god's sakes.
Yep. And I agree with that. So you guys get this information around your community, and let's explain it to them because I want you pissed off because they will get act I agree. And we are. Believe me. We are. Okay. Because we're pissed off too. And we got the answer. Nobody's ever had these people in this position ever in history that I can find. We got them right by the shorthairs. They can't do anything but stand mute. And when they stand mute, they convict themselves. They admit they were slaving because they can't deny, and they can't rebut. They have to stand mute. And in standing mute, they convict themselves.
How about that, William? Is that slick or what? Bruce?
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Keep on I'm trying to unmute. Go ahead. Yeah.
[02:03:57] Unknown:
William, I'm gonna shock you a little bit, about South Carolina. I'm from South Carolina. My ancestors wrote the document to succeed from the nation and presented it to the legislative branches of South Carolina. Now, you you know, they took down the Confederate flag in February, the battle flag. Remember that event?
[02:04:19] Unknown:
Yep. Yes. I remember it.
[02:04:21] Unknown:
Okay. And it was quite a day, watching that, battle flag come down. And they put it in front of the capitol on the ground, where the monument of the fallen soldiers were. That's where they put it. Well, do you know the Confederate the original Confederate flag still flying over the Dome, South Carolina? Did you know that?
[02:04:43] Unknown:
No. I didn't know that, but I I heard I think I've heard some things about it. Yeah. Well, it was adopted in 1860
[02:04:50] Unknown:
to represent the nation of South Carolina and to Confederate State of South Carolina. It's the Palmetto flag. The blue flag, the crescent. Right. That is the original Confederate flag.
[02:05:02] Unknown:
This is Chris from California.
[02:05:04] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Chris. Boy, you sound good today. Let me just put you on just a second. It was originally, done in Mobile, and then you guys incorporated it with your state flag. I don't know if William knows the background of this battle flag and why we hold it in such a steam because it's been so demonized. I got one hanging in my window right here in my apartment in Ecuador, William. And what happened was the the southern flag, Confederate, and The US flag were so similar that in the early battles of the Civil War, soldiers couldn't recognize the standard, the correct one, and they were going to the enemy's standard, the flag. And so they said come up with a flag which differentiates us without using the Confederate flag.
And so they did it with the Saint Andrew's Cross. William, do you know the significance of the Saint Andrew's Cross? No. I don't. Andrew was one of the disciples' brother. And when they crucified him, he said, I'm nowhere as good as Jesus. Tilt my cross to the side. That's where it came from. It's not racist. It's not anything else to do with anything with ethnics. It's got something to do with Jesus, and Saint Andrew is not thinking he was as good in instructing the people that were gonna crucify him to tilt the cross to one side. K? FYI.
Chris.
[02:06:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. I just, I I really enjoyed the show today. The fellow that was talking about, answering Trump's question, you need to have that guy on every day for a week.
[02:06:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Thank you, Chris. But but I just, thank you for bringing it to us. I saw it the other day. I think I commented on it on the show, but I don't go and search those things out. So I appreciate Robin bringing it to us so we could play that. I I think that's real important information for the Trump haters.
[02:07:10] Unknown:
Go ahead. It is. I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the archives and make you a copy of that and send it everywhere. So, anyway, I came across this book. It's, you know, it was a bunch of it's a hundred and eight pages stapled together. It's entitled guidebook for the national principle, establishing your status by Ed Presley. You know about this work?
[02:07:36] Unknown:
No. I don't.
[02:07:38] Unknown:
And and he go I'm looking for a date in it, but he goes into how they brought the feudal system in. He said almost exactly the same thing you say.
[02:07:49] Unknown:
He was probably one of John and Glenn's students, should be my guest, Chris.
[02:07:54] Unknown:
That's the young man, Presley. Young man, Presley. Oh, that's Presley.
[02:07:58] Unknown:
Well, he's our he's our young student. You know what? He's down in LA. Chris, you know how old he is? He's about 19 years old. You're kidding. No. He's got a video on YouTube too. And his mother, his they were his grandfather was an Iranian Jew, and John Kasarab did some presentations on our stuff for him. That's how we found him. And Presley was the oldest of three sons, and he came on the air with us. And his mother, Sonny, came on, and his mother, Sonny, told us his two younger brothers are sharper than he is.
[02:08:37] Unknown:
Amazing. Amazing.
[02:08:39] Unknown:
Yep. So that's who that is. I didn't know he's going under. I knew him as Presley. I didn't realize that was him. He's got a nome Okay. Well, good. Nome de guerre. Is that what they call it? A nome de guerre? Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Chris had some answer, and I'll get you. Chris?
[02:08:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, that's good to know. I'll I'll have to somehow try to meet him, here in LA.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. We hadn't heard from him in a long time. I don't, well, I don't have any contact information for him, but he sure gave all of us a lot of hope when some he was 18 at when he stumbled across us. Some 18 year old kid is out there and, go on and onto this material at that age and comprehending it and moving on it and being as astute as he is. And I don't know whether y'all have heard this or not, but this younger generation, him, is one of the most conservative generations that they've caught coming up in history. See, there there is hope at the bottom of this little column. Somebody was trying to say something a second ago, Chris. Let me I don't wanna ignore it. Go ahead. Who was that? I'm done. I just have a quick Thank you, Chris.
[02:09:47] Unknown:
Was 18 then. Okay. And he's probably 21, 20 two. Yeah. He's probably right.
[02:09:53] Unknown:
Yeah. He's probably out whipping up rallies on the West Coast there. Who was trying to get in?
[02:09:59] Unknown:
John Seals.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
Hello, John. How are you doing?
[02:10:03] Unknown:
I'm doing good, Roger. You know, I am I'm I'm still having an issue trying to get, you know, an attorney kinda to help me out, with my bankruptcy that I was trying to go through with, but I decided I'm just not even gonna go that route because I have a court date on April 28.
[02:10:22] Unknown:
Chris Chris, hold on. John Chris, could you mute mute there? I was catching a conversation if you would, please. Okay. Congratulations. Now John no. Hold it. We're not done yet. 2727. Yeah. Can you can you get him Paul, please? Okay. Now John Seal. I'm you're gonna have to refresh me a little bit. When was the last time we talked?
[02:10:47] Unknown:
Gotcha. We talked a couple weeks ago, you know, about how I tried to file bankruptcy, and they they refused me because of my status of being an American national. And so I decided I'm not gonna file bankruptcy. I already tried to take care of some issues, and I have a full date coming up April 28 of Frank White versus John Seals where I'm just gonna take it to him personally, you know. And and if I gotta represent myself when I go in there, fine. By golly, that's what I'm gonna do. But I'm not afraid of these people, and I'm I'm just gonna go ahead and spearhead them. I I know nobody wants to help me out, and that that's fine and dandy and everything. But, you know Mark. It could be the it could be the end of me, but I just wanted to say Well you know, the last five years of my life not, not being a US citizen has been the best experience I've ever had in my life. And people around me, my coworkers, you know, they they're witnesses to it too. They they don't wanna follow suit. But, you know, because, you know, they're they're just they live in fear. It's all fear driven. And Yep.
[02:11:50] Unknown:
You know, like I said Well, you know, I I didn't know. I'm having a time. Getting an attorney. That's all. Oak. Well, you what about Mark? Have you reached out to Mark?
[02:12:01] Unknown:
You know, I I've contacted several people, and it's just a dead end everywhere I go. So I'm pretty sure that I'm just gonna That's fine, John, but that's not the question I asked you. Have you reached out to Mark?
[02:12:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
Yes. I have.
[02:12:17] Unknown:
Okay. Well, didn't that answer your question? If I recall correctly,
[02:12:21] Unknown:
I asked for certain information upfront, and it was not supplied. I couldn't even tell what was going on with the case, and we went back and forth. And I just said, well, you know, I wish you luck.
[02:12:32] Unknown:
I got you. Well, I sent you the documents to the court hearing that's on April 28. I gave you everything I had. I don't know what's going on about that, but I did send that to your email and made it the very first day. So, you know, whatever.
[02:12:45] Unknown:
You know what I mean? Well, maybe I'm competing you with somebody else. I don't know.
[02:12:49] Unknown:
Well, anyways, it doesn't matter at this point. I'm just done. You know, if I'm if I'm brave enough to to stand up to these tyrannical government people in government and the IRS, I'm most certain I can I can handle these little schmucks and pinheads down at the courthouse? A little make it sound It doesn't bother me any. Uh-huh. It'll make it sound like I'm not worried about it at all, you know. Hey, if they want to destroy a good man, I'm more than willing to walk through that fire. You know, I don't care because I know what's coming, and bad things are coming to this country. I'm I I don't wanna be categorized as a Trump hater, but I hate every single politician. I think politics ought to be banned because I've been alive fifty four years. In the fifty four years I've been alive, I haven't seen politics work out one iota for the man, common man in this world. And so for people to put any trust in any man, I find that very ludicrous because Well, it's just whenever maybe he's the guy said that whenever Maybe he's starting to work out with bet with okay. Go go ahead. John, go ahead. The get the guest you had on that was talking about Trump not, you know, about him being booed by mentioning vaccines. Well, guess what? They're not gonna talk about vaccines, and guess what? He's not gonna get booed. So that solves that problem. But does it solve the problem of, you know, why did he do it? Why hasn't he, like, investigated these people? Why why don't we have answers on why our own people are dying? You know? I lost a 29 year old's daughter to that, you know? Right. She was only 29 married with two kids. We don't. John, I I can hear your frustration. I hope you're getting it out and talking about it makes you feel better, but there ain't a damn thing we can do for you here. Okay? I know that, but but I just find it ludicrous to trust anybody who says, well, dang it. Now I don't have to talk about it anymore. Nobody's ever gonna get to hear about it because guess what? I don't wanna get booed, and I'm not gonna mention anything. So if somebody says, hey. What's being done about the vaccine? He's gonna say nada.
And that that's, to me, that's pretty shitty.
[02:14:44] Unknown:
Well, it's just like Brent Winters. He ran for office. Politicians want you to tell them, what you're thinking, and they wanna hear what you're thinking because that's just what they make decisions on. And, you know, they're not all bad. There's some good, there's some good they're they're few and far between, and I'll certainly grant you that. But they're good. They're not politicians. They're statesmen.
[02:15:09] Unknown:
Okay? And I that's what I think Trump is. Alright? Well, I'm also a statesman. I got my statesperson's award, you know, and and like I said, I'm willing to go up against these people. I don't care Okay. Because I know what's coming soon, and what's coming soon isn't gonna go well with the vaccine and the issues that that that's caused because I feel. It. Your sickness is gonna be based on how much metal is in your body and how the five and six g reacts to it. And and Yep. And I mean, these people are diabolical, and they've been planning this for a long time. And for anybody to think that, you know, they're not in on it, that that's crazy. But, you know, I like I said Well, I know Trump wasn't in on it because I saw the contract. I know Trump wasn't in it because Robert Barnes read the contract.
[02:15:53] Unknown:
Okay? Right. Well After they finally got in to release it. So listen, John. There ain't nothing we can do for you. Are you just I know. Some trust for you. Say thank you, guys. You're just ramping No. I
[02:16:05] Unknown:
was just trying to pull one last call out there just to see if somebody might be able to, you know, try and send me some information on maybe what I should do at this point whenever I gotta go into court and represent myself as an attorney because I cannot I can't even hire a civil attorney to help me take on this case. I I'll pay him. No. But ain't nobody wanna do it. And so guess what? I'm gonna go under and battle my ass. Well, they don't understand your position.
[02:16:29] Unknown:
Michael Nail talked to four or five attorneys. None of them understood it. So those are the, that's why I say you better learn this information. If you gotta give the situation like John here where you gotta defend yourself, you better know it, and you're not gonna cram it in all at the last minute. It takes time. I'm sorry. They've got I know it does. I know it does. But, anyways, I just wanted to also speak on how wonderful it's been the last five years being in American National. It's been the best experience I ever experienced. It's a damn shame people aren't brave enough to step forward. I well, I feel the same way. And what it is is for William and these folks, is you're connecting with God again when you were supposed to be at born, and they threw this blanket over it. And Esau Edom tricked you into giving his birth rack his birthright back to him. And all of a sudden, you're gonna change that. And, yeah, it is a big deal. And it doesn't happen overnight, but you will reconnect with that power.
If you continue to live it, continue to study, you will reconnect with that powerful with that power, and you'll be like me as I ain't scared of one single son of a bitch on the face of this earth.
[02:17:41] Unknown:
Right. Period. I'm with you on that. You know what? I just last last, comment, you know, I'll I'll get off and listen to everything and other people. But,
[02:17:52] Unknown:
I just wanted to to know, does anyone did, did Hitler invade Israel when he killed the Jews? I just want some anybody can answer that question. He he he sent his people down there, I forget which one, down with them to the to that part of the world, and they minted a coin with the, Hama, that eight pointed thing on one side and the swastika on the other.
[02:18:17] Unknown:
Well, FYI, Israel wasn't created till 1948. So the Jews came from Germany, and they lived with Hitler. Moses was Hebrew, not Jewish. I just thought I'd need that little piece of information. When they had all those Jews, they were gonna send them to the con you can find this in a book called the transfer agreement
[02:18:34] Unknown:
written by a Jew named Black, I believe. And they had all those ones that they're gonna send to the concentration camp and some doctor and a couple of these other little monsters said, no. Just take this group and send the others to the camps. They sent their own people to the camps, not Hitler. He was trying to get rid of them all over the world. Nobody had taken them to transfer a group don't read them. My point was they're they didn't live in Israel before 1948. They lived there permanently with it. Well, there were some there weren't Zionist down there. And the Jews And it was and the Christians and the Muslims of which it was about 85% live next door to neighbor with no problems for two thousand damn years till those monsters went down there. The doctor and his little cadre of Zionist creeps.
These Satanists battle. Roger.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
Yes. I know. Well, I might go ahead and post my court date right on my social media page and on YouTube and Rumble. I might go I might been doing some live feeds and doing some, StreamYard live stuff. And, tonight, I just might post my court case just so everybody can see it. That way, you know Alright. It's there. Okay. People wanna look at because I I don't know what they're gonna plan on doing to me, but a guy like me don't last very long in a situation like this. I thank you guys. What part where where in the country are you? Hey, Roger.
[02:20:04] Unknown:
All this. Where in the country? Has the same Missouri. Okay. Well, good luck to you, John. Sorry to see anybody in these situations. Alright. I I I know. I'm not I'm not We can't go in we can't go in and go over all the intricacies of somebody's situation and this and Frank and Mary and Sue and all that. We just can't do it. That's where it's out of our Ballywick. Okay. Larry was Right. At the site of late. Yeah.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Can you just can you tell us briefly to refresh our memory what why John's going to court?
[02:20:39] Unknown:
I don't have any idea. I don't remember.
[02:20:41] Unknown:
Oh. But I did he did say something interesting about why I'm going to court was for the fraud that was committed. Oh, and I didn't tell you. Last week, a judge ruled on that fraudulent, property tax issue here in Jackson County. They raised my property tax a 15% on my house. They're only allowed to do a 15% legally, and a judge ruled on that and found them guilty of fraud and said you're gonna pay back 200,000,000 last week. And I'm pretty sure I got a winning case, and I don't care if I gotta go under myself. I'm gonna try.
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Okay. Way too complex. Just too complex. John, good luck. Okay?
[02:21:21] Unknown:
John,
[02:21:22] Unknown:
you're not making it. Than that. Oh, please, please. Larry, did you have anything to follow-up? Okay. Annette, was that you wanting to say something?
[02:21:30] Unknown:
No. No, Roger. Thank you.
[02:21:34] Unknown:
John, is, go ahead.
[02:21:36] Unknown:
No. I I please. Go.
[02:21:39] Unknown:
Hey, John. Is, are you fighting paying taxes? Are you behind in taxes?
[02:21:48] Unknown:
I don't know, but I got a stomach that's growling, and I'm gonna leave y'all to decide it. John, good luck. William, you and your friends got something out of it. Good to see you back again. I'll send you Mark's email address, and, I will see, y'all tomorrow. If you got burning questions, write them down, hold them till tomorrow, and we'll have a round robin discussion on them at that time. So have a wonderful day. Ciao ciao. Sun's come back out. That's rare these days. At this time of day, I'm gonna go enjoy it. Ciao.
[02:22:20] Unknown:
Thank you for joining us for this episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, and homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live tv, stream life.tube, 1 0 6 point 9 w b 0 u f m in Chicago, and radiosoapbox.com. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. And, for more information on the topics discussed, please go to our website, thematrixdocs.com. That is thematrixdocs,d0cs,.com. You'll find links to join us live on the show using free conference call, or you can catch the Eurofolk Radio or Global Voice Radio links and listen to the stream live. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll catch you right back here for the next exciting episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
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[02:23:28] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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