In this episode of the Radio Ranch on Global Voice Radio Network, host Roger Sayles delves into the intricacies of freedom and citizenship, exploring the historical and legal frameworks that define our current societal structures. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding one's status as a national versus a federal citizen, emphasizing the legal processes involved in asserting this status. Roger explains the significance of filing the correct paperwork with the Secretary of State to establish one's status as a national, thereby stepping outside the jurisdiction of federal laws and gaining protection under state laws. This episode also touches on the historical context of the fourteenth amendment and its implications on citizenship and personal freedom.
Listeners are introduced to various platforms and networks that support the dissemination of this crucial information, including the Global Voice Radio Network and other independent media channels. The conversation also includes insights from listeners and contributors who share their experiences and challenges in navigating the legal system to assert their rights. The episode underscores the importance of education and awareness in achieving true freedom and autonomy, encouraging listeners to explore the resources available to them and to engage in discussions that promote understanding and empowerment.
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Yes. Alvin, so would we. We're gonna take another stab at it here today on Tuesday, April for 08:25. The Radio Ranch is what you've, dialed into, and Roger Sales, your host, here to try and talk about your freedom, see if you want some. We'll see. So so we've got some folks that help us and extend our reach there. Paul Beener, keeper of said platforms, comes out and gives us a little, description of them and gives them proper credit and recognition for their assistance. Do we have Alan back today?
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Yes. We do.
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We have,
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Welcome back, Alan.
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We have a full complement of, streams and platforms. And I was actually on the phone with, Paul English this morning. Yeah. We're we're adding another video platform, and more information on that, coming up later. Nice. We're we're on, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We have the NET family of broadcast services with us this morning, including one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago for the first hour, home network dot tv, freedom nation dot tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. Those, come to us from through WDRN productions, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Nice guys. Nice guys. Great stuff they're doing. Real exciting. And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network, through the Pod Home platform. Yeah. Couple of couple of other things. Our website is, thematrixdocs.com. The matrix d 0 c s Com. And, you can join us live on the show using free conference call, the links for, for that as well as Eurofoc and Global Voice on the matrix docs. You can join us a myriad of different ways, through FCC. Couple of, couple of notes about the, platforms. There is a video platform that is, supported by independent programmers.
It is open source. It is decentralized, and it is called PeerTube, p e e r t u b e. And, what Paul is doing is he's setting up a peer tube instance. And, in that instance, there will be a global voice network channel. There will be a radio ranch channel. There will be music channels, video channels, and, chat live chat integrations and, things like that. All kinds of really fun, interesting things. We're working on finding a domain name to park it on. We've got a couple of couple of possibilities. And, once that goes live, GVTV, as in global voice tv dot net, will also have an instance there.
So Wow. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna be having a lot of fun. Maybe, like, media magnets. Alt media magnets is what we're building here. Well, well, that's what we're doing. I mean, like, the the comparison between PeerTube and YouTube. Okay? YouTube is centralized on Google servers, YouTube servers, and they have editorial control, over everything on the platform. Well, PeerTube is not centralized. It is actually hosted by, one server that actually provides the software. But as soon as somebody accesses the software, it gets downloaded to their computer. And as long as they're using peer tube watching a video or something, they're also acting as a peer or a server for somebody else that's watching the same thing.
So it is completely decentralized and global. And, that'll take us right out of right out from underneath the, the thumb of the vicious bastards.
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The baddies. Mhmm. The baddies. Okay. Well, a little over my head, but that's okay. We'll look forward to you guys working on that new project. We keep bumping right along the morning audience. We're here for your freedom. I don't know if we got any new folks. Probably not. We don't, but we may. You never can tell. And if you are new, pardon me?
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Don't jinx it.
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Well, I mean, I'm I'm trying to be a realist here. You know? There there may be some. I said there may be, but we'll say there may may even be somebody from the Rents broadcast one of these years. Who knows? Anyway, we're here for your freedom. That's what, we spend all this time, and Paul does all this all this technical stuff, talking to people on the other side of the world to hook all this up. It's all for you. I mean, we we we enjoy it. We like doing this. We feel like we're contributing and and, performing our duty. But in the end analysis, it's, for you.
It's your freedom, and we wanna make sure that you know, a, you got a choice there, if you didn't. And, b, should you follow it and and choose to, and it's all your choice. Everything's gotta be voluntary. Big lesson. If you choose to follow that path, we'll, grab your hand should you ask for an assist and help you walk down that where you don't trip in any potholes or anything like that. Hopefully. Hopefully. You're just a watchman on the wall. That's all I am. It's saying you got a choice here. You didn't know you had it. You believe it or not. Some and, you know, I mean, it's and I I do understand it, but some people just can't believe this.
They can't believe they've been living in an illusion all their lives and that these people have done all this stuff and built all this just on a little word trick. And the, the the fact that you call debt money and that you think you're free. And the whole thing hinges on those two pivots, best I can tell. And all you gotta do is goo snap. Snap. Come out of it. Come out of your little spell. You're in a little spell. That's what they call it. And come out of your little spell and and and start doing the things right. Start straightening out those definitions and step back firmly and into reality. And it's nice being in reality.
Okay? Because, man, the whole world's in this illusion, unfortunately. So that's what we do. Hopefully, you're if you're new now, don't be hesitant. If you got questions, preferably, it's somebody that's gone and listened to at least some of our interviews and whatnot, and we don't have from from the start here to educate you. But if we have to do that, we'll do it that way. Okay? But, it's just an upside down world, and everything in our world is based on that concept that they're, they've taken all these key pointers, these words, you know, Rush Limbaugh words mean things. They sure do. In this instance, they mean and determine whether you're free or you're a slave.
And that's your choice, but you gotta understand the technique. Okay? So there's a little bit involved. It's not gonna happen overnight. Generally, most people we have people on here, Michael, who has been around the last few days, our our, Minnesota, I think Minnesota farmer up there. And, Michael's been listening for years. First time came forward here recently talking about taxes. We've had other people like that. So it doesn't happen overnight with most people. You're changing from an illusion to reality. And it's it's not painful, I don't think, necessarily. It's probably hopeful because you see good things at the end in that pot at the end of that rainbow.
But, it's all about you and your freedom, so that's why we're here. If there's any new folks, you do, access us by star six. And here we are. Boy, did I see an interesting clip just before we went on the airs. I'll I'll listen to Harrison this morning, and they they they've got this female, Van I think her name is Vander Leeb. Vander Leebenstein Schmitz or something. You know, Paul? Well, I don't know what her damn name. She's one of these, obviously, she's one of these European nobility. I think some guy that was kind of the head that position has stepped down, and she's got it now. Y'all have seen little clips of her, bitching about, Trump's tariffs.
Well, this morning, I see this clip. Boy, Paul, this is unreal. And she says, well, we are we are controlled by the European values of the Talmud.
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Oh, joy.
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That's what she said. I swear to you. And, I saw her see it. I saw her say it. And that, I I that's funny. I sure thought those were Christian values over there in Europe. But, again, I just guess I've been deceived all these years. And that's a big difference in people. I don't think many some here do, of course, because you've studied it along with myself. But it can't be, lady, because they try and tie the Talmud to the Torah. Okay? The Torah are the scrolls that you see with the bearded old men, and they pull out the two scrolls and they open them up and they got a little little stick with a hand and a finger at the end of it. You've seen that, haven't you, Paul?
The little pointer. And and now they read from right to left, interestingly enough. And, so the Torah is the is the first five books of the Bible. But I don't think the first five books of the Bible were written when Babylon was around, were they? Or Samaria? They weren't written back then. We don't have any biblical verses that go back to Babylon or Samaria, maybe referencing it, but not actually there. And so, that's what they say that the Talmud is a study of the Torah. Well, that's all lies. Okay? The Babylonian Talmud started in actually, they found new, what do they call those things? Hieroglyphs?
Those little stone tablets where they got the little messages in them. Cure Curiform, I think they call that. Curiform. Well, they found some that even predate Samaria. And and, it was like if somebody comes in and puts your eye out, you they owe you 50 pieces of silver or something like like that. So there are even some of those types of laws that they found now in these curiform tablets that predate Babylon by quite a bit. So the Babylonian merchant code was a combination of these from wherever they originated up through the Sumerian, and, then, of course, when Babylon took over, it was perfected in Babylon. And as the book historical jurisprudence starts with, there's a whole book. It's a whole book. We got it downloadable. They're on the site now. Paul went and dug it up and posted it. And, it's a historical jurisprudence. It was written a hundred years ago, published by the out that university in Maryland, Hopkins, Johns Hopkins.
I think it's in Maryland. Regardless, the book starts out Babylon's great contribution of the world to the world was to reduce everything into the society down to the abstract form of contract. And that's where we are. But there's a whole bunch of different kinds of contracts. So I just thought that was kinda startling when she said, European values are based on the Talmud. I I would say, only since the Jews took over. Only since these Revelation two and three niners that just constantly lie like this, like, this lady.
So anyway, man, good morning, Tuesday. I don't know of a whole lot. I was trying to catch up with what all, Harrison was saying this morning, but I had to you know, it's garbage day. I had to get the garbage up and get it out. And and my my dog, Buddy, was outside there wagging his tail, so I had to come in and get him a little treat or two because he's a a cool little canine. And, so here we are. We got anybody with any comments or questions? We've had a good Saturday show on the tax, history of the tax. Kind of surprised we haven't had any more commentary or questions on that, but we haven't.
And then yesterday, of course, John was with us, and he's headed off, probably in this morning over there in Clark County, Nevada. I lost wages, hanging out and having a bunch of fun with Mark and and Brent Bachman. And, I'm envious of you guys getting all those good buffets and stuff. That's the one nice thing about Vegas. I don't gamble, so I like to watch it. I like to watch people gamble, but, but, man, the buffet's out there pretty darn good. So, and John, of course, doesn't cook, so he loves that kind of stuff right there. There's no telling how much weight John's gonna gain while he's in Vegas.
Don't know how long he's gonna be there, but it'll be long enough for him to put on a pound or two at those buffets, Paul. I guarantee you.
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It just depends on how much money he brings with him because those buffets used to be the draw to Vegas. Oh, of course. To be able to get, like, a huge meal for, like, $5,
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whatever. You you can not comment on them. No. I think that's right. Yeah. They could get comped on them too. Did I hear Larry trying to poke through with a comment?
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Good morning, Larry. Yeah. Good morning. Did you hear the latest of regard interest tariffs? Approximately 50 countries capitulated, and they're gonna negotiate and load the tariffs. And I'm hearing that in one day, The United States, almost made a billion dollars in revenue just based on the tariffs. And another another thing, I've I've read is that the state of Mississippi
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has dropped their state income tax. So I believe there's eight state They oh, Larry, you're you're cutting in and out, buddy. You're not in a real good place there. The state of Mississippi has dropped their income tax or state income tax. Was that what I heard you say? Man, Larry dropped off the edge of the cliff. No. Was that what you heard him say, Paul? Did everybody drop off the edge of the cliff, or are we on the air? What what's going on? I heard him say that, and I I know that to be true. I read it. Okay. Well, good. Well, I'm glad we're on the air. Yeah. When it goes dark like that, I just don't know. I don't know if we got cut off somewhere or what. So the state of Mississippi, according to these two esteemed gentlemen, has dropped their state income tax. Well, that's a step in the right direction.
Yeah. And now Larry just rejoined us. Oh, now now they're back here, Paul. Alright. Paul, today I guess I got dropped. Oh,
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well, just I guess I got dropped. I don't know what
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Yeah. No. You dropped. And and that's what I was saying. And somebody confirmed it while you were gone that the state of Mississippi has eliminated their state income tax as of today.
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Right. Well, they voted on it a few days ago, and the governor signed it into law. And I think it's gonna be Probably next year. Completely
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yeah. Within a
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couple of years or whatever, it's gonna be completely zero. They're they're zeroing it out. But, the so there's eight states that don't have a state income tax. Mississippi will be the ninth. And then there's already yeah. There's already nine states that I'm reading about that are working on this year lowering their their state tax by a couple of percentage points. I think one of them was was very negligible. So it wasn't that much. A person might save $33 a year, you know, but they still lowered it. But a lot of a lot of these states are significantly lowering their state income tax. There's nine of them all. And, I don't know if you heard about the Trump carrier. Did you hear that part?
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Well, I don't know, Larry. We you keep you're very garbled, and you're cutting in and out. Can we get can we get you in a better place? Because we wanna hear what you gotta say. I mean, at least you got a a a regular phone I guess, that is. Still route.
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Yeah. Okay. How do I sound?
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Well, you sound a little bit better now. Let's see if we can get that last part you said it out
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where it's, under Well, I I my my initial comment was, that there is, 50 countries that capitulated to Trump's tariffs. Knew that. They're gonna deviate. That. Yeah. And in one day, the, The United States made almost a billion dollars in revenue just based on the tariffs alone. Right. We got that. So And it's a risk. Very interesting time, Brooke, and and light up all of these things.
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It makes all the system economists look like idiots, doesn't it? Even mister Susskind, I'm sorry to say, who was adamantly against that and running Trump down and say he doesn't know what he's doing and all that kind of stuff. And I think it's gonna probably end up as egg on his face down the line because I think he's wrong, the esteemed Columbia professor of economics. Thank you, Larry.
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What is he doing? I think one of those one of those countries was Argentina that's capitulating.
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Well, hell, man. Argentina bend over at the at the drop of a hat. They're in such bad shape. They got no good position. I feel so sorry for those people. They've been abused for so long. Did you hear the other day, Milou came out and said that Hitler died in Argentina and he had a couple of children? I bet that didn't get much news, did it? Didn't get much, Carrie. Well, evidently, that happened the other day. So, that's been rumored for a long time even when I was down there. I never did get down to Bariloche where is where it is rumored that he lived out his life, and I've seen a picture of the place that he supposedly lived in that's now for sale.
And, man, it is nice. Really nice. Bariloche down there in Southern Argentina is extremely nice. It's called this, you know, the Switzerland of South America and, a lot of German, a lot of Swiss, and all that kind of stuff because there's some ski resorts down there. And, up in the mountains, nestled up in the Andes, and they supposedly and I never got down there, unfortunately. A very, very lovely, place to go. I know I heard a guy telling a story that was down there, and they were in some bar. You know? They're in town. I don't remember if they were skiing or not. But at at the end of the night, the bar closed, and there were still a bunch of people in there, and they broke out singing German songs.
So that influence is definitely down there, and I can tell you a story that happened to me down there. It's pretty interesting. My, girl I was seeing at the time. If you ever wanna see an Argentinian freeze, you say the word vacationes. Because when they hear the word vacationes, everything else goes distorted. K? Because they want that vacation. Alright? And so, of course, their seasons are opposite of ours. And, this, girl I was seeing wanted us to go over, and she wanted to take me over to this place called the Hills Of Cordoba. It's really nice. It's down below Cordoba. Cordoba is the one of the larger cities in Argentina.
Don't have too many. And, heavily German influence and evidently one of the a very wealthy company that helped support Hitler was from Cordova and, had some Nazi influence and stuff down there, some German influence. So, anyway, it's like a we got a couple of couple of our listeners here live in Virginia. They're in the Shenandoah Valley. Well, the Hills Of Cordoba are an awful lot like the Shenandoah Valley. I've never been to the Shenandoah Valley. I've seen pictures of it, obviously. But, that's what I likened it to here, in the hills of Cordoba.
So we drove over there about an eight hour drive and and, lovely on the, eastern part of the valley, there's three, cities right in a row. One of them is called I just remember the name of one of them. It's called the General, Viva Via, V I L L A, Village, Via General Belgrano. And so, the there's a city above it, a little city below it. That's where the only nuclear facility in Argentina is on a lake over there right by General, Belgrano. And so that we went up and it's very Bavarian. It's like being in Germany or Switzerland, all that architecture and all that kind of stuff. And so it's a big vacation spot for people from Buenos Aires because Buenos Aires gets so insufferably hot during the summer, and they'll poke out and go, either up where we were was a big, tourist destination too because they have the little Grand Canyon of South America there.
Very nice spot. And, then below Cordoba, they've got this, Hills Cordoba thing with these there's three cities on the, if you're looking at a map, they'd be on the right side of the valley, and then there's one city over on the left side. And it's a pretty wide valley. And, so we were looking for a place to eat lunch, and it was kinda towards the end of the lunch hour, and we found a interesting looking log cabin restaurant there. And, so we went in. The place was full. Obviously, the food was good, and the only place we could sit was on the, back, little little, back porch. Had some tables out there, and you had to walk through the bar to get back there. So we did that. And as I was walking through the bar, I noticed a great big picture of the graph spray. Now I wonder if, any of you Paul, do you know about the graph spray? I probably talked about it on here before, and then you probably heard that. Were you aware of it before that? Is Paul off? He's off doing something.
Chasing that cat. Okay. Graph spray. Graph spray. Well, the graph spray, if any of you remember when we were kids, there was a movie where you got to sync the Bismarck, and they all ganged up on the mighty Bismarck, the destroyer, I guess, the German destroyer. Well, the Graf Spray was the sister ship to the Bismarck, and it patrolled the South Atlantic. And, they ganged up on it down there. It was really efficient on on, harassing trade and whatnot. And they sent several, different British ships and maybe an American ship. There's three of them that ganged up on it. They got a strategic hit on the rudder, and they couldn't fix it. So the only thing they could do is hightail it into base, which was Monte De Veo, Uruguay.
They parked outside of the beautiful natural harbor there. Boy, it's lovely. Okay? This big beautiful natural harbor, which used to be Argentina, until they revolted and took it over. And they put the, the the graph spray outside. They didn't even take it into the harbor. They left it outside. It's a pretty large vessel. And, they scuttled it. Well, the captain went down with the ship, but they let all the sailors and stuff off. And, well, here they are stuck in South America. It's in the middle of World War two. They got nowhere to go but stay there.
Probably, I don't think they wanted to go back to back to the theater too much. So, anyway, all of those crewmen of the Graff Spray, they let them off, and, they migrated down into Argentina, and they founded these towns. So these three towns that I'm talking about with Giaville, via General Belgrano in the middle, They're all these ex German sailors from the Graf Speyer. They're, you know, a. And so I'm, we eat dinner, and we're coming back walk through the bar. And, I was my my my my lady friend was, she didn't know anything about it. She'd never heard about it before. And so I was sitting there explaining the history and showing her that picture. And out of nowhere comes this big six foot five blonde deared blue eyed guy, and he saw what I was doing. And he came and grabbed my hand, and I didn't think he was ever gonna stop shaking it. Okay? And it's just one of those experiences, this backlash from all this World War two history right there in the Hills Of Cordoba. Now on the other side of that valley is this city. It's not a city. It's it's a day a daytime vacation spot, and they've got a well, let's see. I don't know I don't know how to describe it. A hamlet maybe built into the side of the mountain as it goes up on the other side of the Hills Of Cordoba. And, there's a lot of people there every day. I mean, 10,000 plus vehicles.
But at night, they don't have any because they're they don't let anybody drive. It's all a walking town. And you walk up through these falls and around these lakes, and they have little coffee shops and little restaurants and little they just it's a really cool place, and it's called La Compressita. And you go look it up on on Wikipedia, La Compressita, C U M B R E S I T A, something like that. It'll probably correct you on the spelling, but what a lovely place. It was built about started about a hundred years ago by some Germans, and they built the whole thing in that Bavarian style, of course. And it's a whole walking little village, and it's really cool. Bunch of artisans and kinda like that. It's got a few hotel rooms, so people do stay there that don't live there. But, what a cool place. That's a neat part of the world right there, South Of Cordoba in the hills of Cordoba in Argentina. And the Graff spray got me thinking about that and why I told you the story. But, anyway, it was a cool moment. I'll never forget it. And, I enjoyed part of the enjoyment of my time in Argentina.
We don't happen to have any new people around today with questions, do we, by any chance? No. Did William and Tony come back or they PO'd at us and went off? Whatever. Larry, did you ever get a hold of, William?
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Larry's not gonna answer me. He's off taking a customer. Yes. Well Yes. I talked with Roger. They're Oh. No. They're not upset. They, they're just listening. Okay. Behind. Alright. We'll do that. The time to see. They're listening. Alright. And, I think you I think you misunderstood them. They're they were, trying to explain that they're they're they don't believe that the paperwork won't work. It's just you have to know the information. I think you guys were on the same page. Okay. You it it's not just filing a piece of paper, and I think they were trying to explain that to you.
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But you kinda took it the wrong way. So Well, I might have, but we don't do that. We do specifics here as you know, and and for a specific reason. And, man, they recognize it. Okay? And why? Because it's written into their laws. I mean, don't forget this other status, this national status, this is so, elusive. It's elusive that status to find in there and search down and understand, but it's right there in their law books. So you say a piece of paper. Well, yeah, but it's right there. It is the basis of their entire thing they built here. So you gotta realize it's not just like people would do throwing something in the court, going into court, going, I'm sovereign.
Well, that's all fine and good. Okay? But that won't cut it. You could file it in the property records office like John and Glenn, erroneously, instructed us to do not knowing about the secretary of state. Well, that's real good. It's in your local county, but until you can prove this is that site from Copper Moonshine still that I mentioned to to Michael yesterday. What a what a wonderful citation from I looked it looked like an appellate level case. Unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, IRS can move on to assessment collection, whatever it said. Important part, unless they can prove. Well, how do you prove it? Well, nobody's ever known how to prove it until we came along and understood this.
So, yes, I can understand why people think that that is true. We've had other people. Hey. Look. Tony's not the first one to ever say that. Okay? But, it it always goes down the line that when you find out really what you're dealing with here, nobody else has been able to prove they're not a citizen of The United States. Well, why not? Well, they didn't know where to go. They didn't know where to do it. And why not? Because they didn't know it was a feudal system. When you know it's a feudal system and you get a letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida telling you that now I can't send you a letter saying you're a Florida state citizen because the, secretary of state has exclusive jurisdiction on all, a l l. There's that word again. All matters concerning citizenship.
So unless you do it through him, it doesn't matter what you've done. They can come kick your door in. But the amazing thing is now once you've done this, and we've got a proper this isn't just sending in one piece of paper one time. We've got a whole regimen of process here that has been, found, discovered. That's a good word. It's been discovered as we've gone forward in this process over the years, mainly from people's mistakes. So I'll give you an example. Before we, knew all this, Kaye, long time listener, Kaye and her husband, Paul, now in Connecticut, she is just hell bent for leather to get everything done correctly. And this is right at the start of COVID. Okay?
And so we say, well, alright. Well, you need to send it to your state there to the Secretary of State because we didn't know any better back then. And, so she kept sending it to the secretary of state, and they'd write back going, do you wanna open a business? We don't have you in our records. Do you owe us some fees? We'd love to get some fees out of you. So it's that kind of a dialogue and, you know, no. I've got this thing here. Oh, no. What about your business and your fees? So, obviously, the secretary of state is in charge of setting up and maintaining businesses in the state. Now I remember if you go wanting to get a, some sort of incorporation or something, you always go to the secretary of state. So that's the position that they have fulfilled since the change.
And so, that's where we came back. We come back with that and say, well, alright, Kaye. Obviously, you they're not the right people. Poor people. She was gonna file it at the property records, Sue. They had everything shut down by COVID and the property so you had to do everything through email and the phone, and they weren't about to let her file that in the property records. So if any of you ever wanna do that, by the way, and they give you grief, the way you come back at them is you go, well, you let the IRS file notices of liens here, don't you? Well, that's where they file them. So why would they file them in the property records office?
Because it's on you. I mean, you go look. If you ever been to one of those places, property records office, and you, go look at it. It's not a lien. It's a notice of lien, like a certificate of title for your car, a notice of lien. Well, is the notice of lien a lien? Well, I don't think so. I think it's a notice just like they're telling you. K. So why do they file it at the property records office? Because the lien's on you, and that's you're you're the property. So you don't believe me? Okay. Alright. Go look. I can answer that. Easily
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yes? I can answer that. They file a notice of lien in the public at the property records office, and if it's not rebutted, then they convert it to a lien because you agreed to it. Well, I don't know that that's correct. I think the lien is a statute staple that's in the base basement of the treasury department somewhere,
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and that they're just alerting you locally that that is theirs. Because, like, for for things like you know how you know why insurance people are always in the patriot movement? Just like John Casara. K? There's a lot of insurance people in the patriot movement. Do you know why, Paul?
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Hit me.
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Well, insurance agents have these things called residuals. So you get paid over and over and over again as the contract renews down the line. And so, of course, the insurance companies are tied to the hip with the central banks. And so if you wanna go get a contract to represent some insurance company and they run a, a check on you, and this is one of the places they look, One probably one of the first places they look is IRS. And so now they cut off your residuals and some of those to some of those folks, is huge.
Okay? And so, that's why you got so many insurance people, in, the patriot movement traditionally as they're getting those residuals cut off. So, now I don't I forgot where I was, Paul. Anyway, if you go get one of those things, a copy of one of those things, a notice, Elaine, it's gonna have three pieces of information on it. It's gonna have your your name in all caps, always, I guess. Is gonna have the address where you live, and then it's gonna have the amount that they say you owe. Right? Well, the lien can't be on the amount you owe. And the question is, what about the tens of millions of people that have been issued one of these things that live in a rental house? Because, see, you think the property is the house. Right?
No. No. No. No. No. Contraire mindfreer. If it's a rental house, which many people live in rental apartments or houses, then the only thing left is you. And just like we covered on Saturday with the statute staple from the statute de Mercatoribus, if there's a dispute in that city, the mayor of the town becomes the mayor of the staple. He puts a statute staple, a lien on the guy that owes the debt, and he becomes property. And anything that comes into his hands is taken, whether it's from rents, profits, sale of land, inheritance, makes no difference because he's the property.
And anything that comes in his hands is seizeable to satisfy the debt and is seized to give to the creditor. And when that's done, the lien is lifted. So, ma'am, you allow IRS to file notices of liens here, don't you? Well, why can't that's property. You could even go so far as to show that and explain that to them. Go, what? Then I wanna file my freedom paper here from said slavers. Well, that'd be fine and good. You could get it certified by the clerk of the court. That just means you pay an extra 5 or $10, and the clerk of the court will come down and he'll stamp it and sign it. And all that means is the clerk of the court saw that your document that you say here is represented as filed in those property records office. So you can even have that kind of a finality to it. Nope. Doesn't matter. It's gotta be sent to the secretary of state. And if you don't do that, you're not out of the system.
Period. So, yes, there probably have been a lot of people that got their doors kicked down, and they may have even filed paperwork, but they didn't know what they were doing. They didn't know it was the feudal system, and they didn't know that the lord of the manor in charge of all things servile, if you will, is the lord of the manor of the secretary of state. Now the question then presents itself. Well, how did he get all that power? Because since the founding of the country, back when a passport just used to be a letter, they give the opium runners. They give them this passport letter. But since the first of the countries, the secretary of state has been the one that was assigned issuing passports in whatever configuration.
And why is that? Well, he's the secretary of state. I could this is what I couldn't figure out for a while. He was the secretary of state. He deals his responsibility is dealing with all the other countries in the world. And a passport by Vatel's Law of Nations is a document issued by said secretary of state that shows you and represents you and who you are. That means your legal personality represents who you are to foreign countries. Well, if he's gonna represent who you are, including your legal personality, then he's got to be the one you've got to switch these statuses with, doesn't he? Yeah. And not only is he the one, he'd be the only one because it's the feudal system.
So now what they've done is run this whole scheme through the secretary of state's office because of the fact that he issues these passports, and they've got all these presumptions built into it. Where unless you specifically tell them you're not that serf over there in the corner, well, then they're gonna put it under presumption that you are. And they ask you these little, like, in the first passport, 11. It says in there that there's some things in that 11 that aren't in the renewals. Okay? And one of them is they ask you, were your parents, citizens of The United States? Well, unless they knew all this stuff and file something with the secretary, well, they were.
There's the presumption. We're gonna lay it out here. We're gonna hide the out where you don't understand it. Even if you do happen to read it, you ain't no way you're gonna extrapolate what's going on by reading the warning box and the oath. So you're not gonna include anything because you don't understand that. So the presumption is, well, his parents were citizens of The United States. It's the feudal system. That means he was a citizen or she was a citizen of The United States at birth. Every time we ask them, they've agreed with it. Well, hell, what do you expect us to think? Duh.
So there it is. The whole thing's run through the Secretary of State because he's the guy that issues passports, and the passports are the one that identify you to foreign nations. And you're correct. Boom boom. Legal personality from when you get your rights into, you owe your duties. And if you don't tell them different, you're in servitude, buddy. And ma'am, yeah, that's the way it works. Pretty slick. These people are very slick. And if you hadn't learned that yet, keep studying. You will. Flippery devils. Alright. They're slimy. They're just slimy bastards.
Yes, ma'am. Is that Nancy?
[00:43:50] Unknown:
It's Rochelle, Idaho.
[00:43:52] Unknown:
Oh, hello, Rochelle. Hi.
[00:43:55] Unknown:
I an interesting little in comment I've read in a book. I'm sorry. I can't remember what book. But when the, captains of the ships were, entering the islands in the Caribbean and they would visit whoever the king or the magistrate of any other country, that captain would, drop the plank and he would walk onto the over the high water mark. He would bring a letter of recommendation from his country.
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Basically a passport.
[00:44:32] Unknown:
Yes. And it would include his status standing and character like you have to verify who he is. Other people on the boat would have to do their trading below the high water mark, which is lower court.
[00:44:47] Unknown:
It's kind of interesting. So I yield Could be. Could be. Could be. I don't I haven't heard that specific in, history, but I do know that they used to issue letters, to, people instead of d r c?
[00:45:14] Unknown:
Your maybe?
[00:45:16] Unknown:
It's I was pretty close. What is it, Paul?
[00:45:19] Unknown:
You're Tatiqui,
[00:45:21] Unknown:
v d r c. I don't have a Tatiqui. I beg your pardon? Yeah. We got a site on there. I've I've have to thank a listener. Listener years ago sent me this. I'd never found it. Whatever that first word is, v d r c, you can find it on the website. Where is that? The downloadable stuff or something? It's in the download section. It's in the download section, and it's a weird style. You know, they call the they they they use the word style, for the heading of a case, Smith versus Jones. Well, that's called the style of the case. K? So it's got to be Wait a minute.
[00:46:02] Unknown:
I think, it might actually be in two places on the website. Let me see. It might be in the download section and the exhibits
[00:46:11] Unknown:
section. It's a pretty important site for sure, and it bears right down on what we're talking about here. And it says, we got this well, would you think I'd be incorrect? Say the guy might have been African?
[00:46:22] Unknown:
No. It's only in the exhibit section. I believe it's exhibit, nine,
[00:46:31] Unknown:
is it? Okay. Well, it's on the site somewhere. And, a listener alerted me to this. It was 1835. We went back and checked it. In fact, if you go look at the site, I believe the site is Wheat. Wheat or Peters, 1 of the two. Do you know about those sites, Wheat and Peters, Paul? No. In in the early part of the country, we didn't have a clerk of the court. I mean, these guys were kind of the clerk of the court. We didn't have all of the decisions registered in a book. And so what they did, they were named Wheaton Peters. And for those years in the early part of the country, they combined all the cases. So the volumes got their name.
And I don't remember whether whatever it is, but DRC. I'll call it DRC. I'll get around that. So DRC, was in 1835, and it says a passport is a document issued by the under the Wealth of Nations, Laws of Nations, Vatel here's Vatel coming in again, issued under the law of nations, which represents a person to foreign countries. It is an ex parte document, which means it's a separate part. And if it is, however, the question is of citizenship, it doesn't have anything to do with the passport. It has to do everything has to do with what papers are in the possession of the secretary if remember, this is before the fourteenth amendment.
If admissible in a court of law are to be considered the higher and better fact. Now one of our guys was, maybe an Abram. I don't remember who it was. Somebody was dealing with one of these local yahoos, and he shows them that get this, Paul. The Yahoo attorney goes, you're mis you're misinterpreting that. Really? Part part. Pardon me? I'm what? How how on earth? No. No. No. Well, this is the way you flick away the commoners. Oh, oh, you're misinterpreting that. Only a lawyer knows what that says.
[00:48:52] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Right. Hockey. Or is hockey.
[00:48:55] Unknown:
Piece of garbage. Okay? Don't fool. Stand corrected. As I don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. Okay? Well, you stand corrected?
[00:49:03] Unknown:
I stand corrected. The Google Scholar link page for your versus DRC is exhibit 11.
[00:49:14] Unknown:
So it's hard. Okay. Well and that's something I advise any of you if you're writing your own letters and corresponding with these creeps. Use that. That's almost 200 year old findings, and it's never been overturned. K? Why? Because it's true. Alright? So there you go. It's whatever is in the possession of the secretary. So we wanna make sure it's in his possession because we instruct you. Here's what William and Tony don't probably I don't know if maybe Larry's told them this. But our our process, we got a process too. It's not just throwing paper around. It's a specific process that has been gleaned over some excuse me. My stomach is wanting to argue.
It has been gleaned over some time. So the first thing we do just different mainly, I guess, for William and Tony if they're listening, just to let you know, if Larry hadn't told you this. We, of course, send a single sheet, just your affidavit with a very short cover letter directly to the secretary of state first. That's relatively new. It started in the last couple of years because of an instance that came up. And I hate to go into the whole long story again, but it came up out of a guy of California who thought he was, migrated. He was a Brit, migrated over here in February, got a passport, got naturalized, all that, heard our message, and said, well, I'm gonna throw an affidavit in and get with my passport because I didn't do that. I didn't know to do that the last time.
So that's what he did. And when they got it, unbeknownst to him, he had been pulled over in San Jose County in California for suspicion of drunk driving. He wouldn't get out of the car. The cops finally broke the windows and dragged him out and took him to jail. And then somehow he got out, and because he was a Brit, not understanding our system, thought that he the charges were dropped. Well, so he went ahead and down the line, he applies for passport with the affidavit. Well, when they get the affidavit, they run a check, of course, NCIC, and they pick up the two drunk driving charges, which he thought were gone.
Well, they went in and used two sections of the CFR, 27 CFR. He sent me their letter, 27 CFR to not only reject his application and keep his funds, by the way, hundred and $40 or something. But they also he had an open passport, the original one he got, and they revoked it because under those two drunk driving charges, he was a flight risk. So they've not only rejected his application and kept his money, they they went in and canceled his open passport. Well, he's going, what the hell is happening? I'm going, I've never had this happen before. Send me something they've sent you. So that's how we found out the story. And, my thinking here was to go back to the drawing board and go do a little bit of logic here. Well, they found these violations.
He did not have the affidavit in because we didn't tell him to do that. And, so when they saw and checked that his background, they rejected the application and kept his money, and and they had every right to because he still had those two open charges. And so my thinking was, if he if he had filed the single affidavit, we call it a naked affidavit, with a cover letter short, to the secretary of state and maybe waited twenty days, then that would have filtered through. And when it came time that they got this application and they went to check it, he would have an affidavit on file, and they couldn't use those, sir, CFR sections to reject his, code of federal regulations to reject his application. If he had an affidavit on file, those wouldn't apply because they wouldn't apply to him. And even if they didn't recognize that, he'd still have a point where he could go in on administrative appeal and and see if he could get his, either his passport or his funds back.
So it was that incident that made us rethink all of this. We gotta get off Chicago. No. We got a couple of minutes. So it was that incident and this I'm using this as an example for people to show you how we alter our process and the things that cause it to be altered. Okay. That's one of them. And so we went back and said, no. I doubt if all of you have drunk driving charges in your background or any of this stuff. But if you do or you're a person with some of that baggage, we suggest you just send the blank affidavit to the secretary of state, wait about twenty days. That gives them time to filter it through whatever administrative system they've got up there. And then should your passport application come in and you've got that baggage that they discover, they can't go in necessarily and arbitrarily, just revoke and reject.
Okay? And and should they, at least you've got, hey. I submitted this 20 ago. Those regulations don't apply to me. What's the next step in my administrative appeal? K? So the the point I'm trying to make is there's a method to the madness here, and I don't just pull this stuff out of my sphincter muscle and just say, hey. Do this. Okay? It's all been there's been some modifications within with input that caused us to rethink some of these certain situations, and we've changed our process. So once you do that let's see here, Paul. Okay. We're pretty close. Once you do that, then we've got a whole another way to go back and weaponize your position with the state and your local officials. But I'd launch off into that, but we're about to say goodbye to some of our friends here that depart from us in the first hour.
And, I'm kinda in limbo here for a minute. So what I'm gonna do is Paul, you wanna go ahead? Okay. Well, when you tell them goodbye and pot down the music or something, and I'll jump back in. Or you wanna tap dance, or does somebody have a question up to this point?
[00:55:51] Unknown:
I know. We probably don't have time for a question, so let's just, Well, I can hold. Mute the whistler and Okay. Thank you for calling us. One zero six point nine w b o u f m Chicago and radiosoapbox.com. Please do join us into the second hour and continue listening to this interesting topic, by going to the matrixstocks.com, the matrixstocks.com. And, you can even join us live on the show if you want. So head on over, pack a lunch, stay the day.
[00:56:24] Unknown:
We'd love to meet you. Thanks. Okay. Bye. See you tomorrow. Maybe. So, anyway, now that we've taken care of, that's the federal level. Now if I don't know if you've got of course, most everybody wants to send it into the SOS and then come back and notify IRS. That's about the two most important things at the federal level. But there are more than that. There's over I don't I've I've heard that there's over 600 agencies up there. Somebody said the other day there's 300 and something. I don't know how many of the damn things. They pop up like mushrooms in a cow pasture after a rain.
But, anyway, that's the deep state is all these agencies. So you may have some problems with well, you know, maybe you want to build a pond in your backyard. And, all your neighbors saw you doing, and he sick the EPA on you because they got all these really strict regulations on water and its control and what you can do and what you can't and all that garbage. Well, when you file this, those don't apply to you anymore. So if you had that particular altercation with the e with the EPA, I would suggest you take a copy of the affidavit, do a cover letter, and you send it to the national head of the agency. And you cc at the bottom the, the, regional director. Most of them have a regional director, and they've got a district director.
So and even if you're already in in, in a battle with the agent, Well, then you go back, copy him too. So you copy the head guy, the regional guy, the district guy, and the local guy if you got his name. And you put them on notice that this has been filed, and guess what? All their objections to you building your pond in your background, your backyard, well, they all go away magically. K? So this is federal stuff, and you could do that with any of those agencies up there. But now what has really happened is you file this and you've turned yourself into a state citizen, now called a national.
And so now to fulfill what's called due process, I mean, I don't really I'm Mario, Super Mario, Rubio is, he's pretty busy guy. Trump's got him running all over the damn globe with all these wars and stuff. Now all these tariff problems. And so, he doesn't have time to notify your state and all the officials and, and they well, I'd like to think they know the ramifications of this. You can't always assume that, but regardless, known or should have known. And so, they're not gonna have time to go do that, especially you go down to your local sheriff and stuff. And so that burden falls on you. So you've already relieved yourself from the federal obligation of status of civil rights under the fourteenth amendment, and now you're gonna move over to god given rights under the state.
And so this is your your bailiwick. It's up to you. It's your freedom. You're supposed to notify them because notice is the front part of due process. Very important concept that underlies all of our laws, due process. I mean, I guess even in Admiralty, they got due process, don't they? Paul, you gotta pull down the the country's flag and throw up the Jolly Roger. Right? That's a process. Oh, yeah. I guess. Okay. So now you've gotta go back and what we found out through experiences like Kaye of going to the secretary of state there in Connecticut and then call, well, do you owe us a fee, or do you wanna open a business? What the hell do you want? So we figured out that wasn't their Ballywick.
And so then you come back and you step back and got logically approaching this and go, alright. Well, here's a tough question for you. Who's the head of law official in the state? Well, I guess that's gotta be the attorney general, doesn't it? Everything is auspices under them, and they're all under the laws of agency. The the of course, Connecticut is not a good example because they don't have sheriffs, but all the other states do, I believe. So, you need to go in and notify the top law official in the state being the attorney general, and all you're gonna do is put him on notice.
Lawful legal notice. Due process. I'm giving you this. It's been filed with the secretary of state. You're the attorney general. You're ahead of laws in the state. Then you know what this is about or you should know. Right? I mean, somebody's sending them change of status. It changes their whole role. They don't know all this. We have to educate them, I guess. But here's the reason for that. For for, like, William and Tony, if you're listening. Because when you were a federal citizen, this jurisdictional thing, Big word, jurisdiction.
Big concept. What gives that guy with that agency over yonder the power to make man made laws called regulations, He's unelected and take these manmade by an unelected bureaucrat little laws, what they call them, and not only shape them for me, but apply them to me and enforce them on me. What gives him that power? That's the question, isn't it? Yes, it is. Okay. And so you go back, you know, where did that come from? Where's the concept come from? What comes from? I know, I know you'll be surprised. It comes from the feudal era. And if you've ever seen those old movies where, the guy is talking to the boss there, and he takes his fist and pops his his left, his left breast there, and he goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege.
Well, that's the relationship. It's from feudalism. And it's the relationship between a liege, l l e I g e man, and his liege, l l e I g e lord. And, yes, remember, Trump I mean, Rents picked up on this real quick. Did you you remember that, Paul, when I was going over this, that first show, and he goes, oh, yeah. That's that's allegiance. Yeah. That's, you know, rinse pretty sharp. Okay. So he picked that up right after the mention that the liege is the root word of allegiance. And the relationship between this liege man and his liege lord is jurisdiction. And that relationship has a definition.
And it says protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. Protection for allegiance. If you're gonna give me your allegiance there, I'm gonna give you the protection of the manor and the other serfs, and we're gonna fight off all the baddies. Okay? So and I'm gonna give you protection, you're gonna give me allegiance. And either one of those words, when they're brought into a legal context, automatically invokes the other. No questions asked. I e, in, title eight where it describes defines a national from the nationality act of 1940. First definition, definition a, a nationalist total allegiance to a small estate.
Well, if you didn't know what I just told you, you'd read right over that and not know what the hell it was saying. That's why I say you gotta go. Yeah. And have you ever been taught anywhere in your patriot, teachings up to now about jurisdiction, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance, where it came from, how it attaches, and how it's automatically invoked when one of the two is invoked, like in that statute, well, then the smallest state owes us total protection. We owe them total allegiance. They owe us total protection. It's a reciprocal agreement. It's not a choice. It's a duty and an obligation from the people in your state that you're now a citizen of that you've switched your allegiance.
You've switched it from the federal government in the fourteenth amendment over to the state government. But they don't know all this stuff. I'd be shocked if maybe Kim Paxton might know it. But I'd be shocked, honestly, if even he did. Okay? So when you go in now and what you're gonna do is you're gonna weaponize your position. You're gonna weaponize your position where you live in your state that you're now a citizen of and that they've got obligated to have protection over you, not prosecution. They're not supposed to go out and let the federally influenced traffic laws get you pulled over on the side of the road with an $80 ticket. That's not protection.
That's prosecution. So they've got exactly the opposite responsibility of that. They're supposed to protect you from that, and it's not a choice they make. It's a duty and an obligation. When you choose to be a state citizen, they have to give you protection. Now these are our teeth here. Roger. Okay. And this is why this stuff works. Alright. This is why filing papers work. Yes, ma'am.
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The reason I mean, behind it, getting off of the federal protection is they have broken the public trust with the fourteenth Amendment, even if their intentions had possibly been to protect those who were unable to take care of themselves.
[01:06:12] Unknown:
In any way, by extortion of taxes, they've broken all the public trust, and it's a great Well, when it was when it was originally passed, the protection was for the new black federal citizens, which the majority of them were. And they didn't want the states coming in, particularly the Southern states, with all that animus in the background coming in and trouncing on their new citizens. Well, that was it. You gave them allegiance because they gave you protection whether you needed it or not. Okay. Bunch. Correct. Yes, Paul. Well, they're not protecting us anymore, obviously. Well, they're not if you don't want them to. Otherwise, they're gonna give you they're gonna give you a bunch of protection. IRS, traffic tickets, taxes, all kind protection. Yes, Paul?
[01:07:00] Unknown:
Yeah. The federal government under the fourteenth amendment, committed treason against the constitution. The state governments that have signed on to that and became state of such and such, they committed treason against their own sovereign state. New York state is not the same as state of New York. The state of New York is guilty of treason against not only the constitution of The United States, but also the sovereign state of New York
[01:07:38] Unknown:
as in New York. Disagree with you because they came along under a bankruptcy. It's not treason. It's not unconstitutional. It was fraud. But they came in under the auspices of, hey. The country's bankrupt. We control all of you. And evidently, they brought all the governors in and told them that. So it's not necessarily it was treason on those guys' part, but the poor state governors, they probably didn't know any different. Okay? So, it's I believe Bob is really right here when he told us years ago, it's not unconstitutional.
It's extra constitutional. Because every court case that's been filed since '33 when they changed the system has adhered to this system for the most part. So the courts agree with that. It's it's extra constitutional.
[01:08:32] Unknown:
Because it's outside the constitution.
[01:08:35] Unknown:
It's merchant law. No. No. I'm sorry. The fourteenth amendment's in the constitution, Paul. It's not outside. It's in the document. So think about it. Anyway, what we're doing is we're coming back under this auspices. Man, you know, I keep telling you this is a process. This only hit me about a year and a half ago maybe. I'm sitting here one day on the show with you good folks, and it hits me that, hold it. This is our teeth, and we're not even applying it. You don't oh, we don't we don't have a file for that. I'm gonna shove it over to my campaign committee. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Sorry there, Ohio.
You need to start something for it because this is your duty. It's your obligation because you owe me protection, and I wanna be separated from all those other serfs out there because I'm different. K? So now what you do is you go to him, the AG, as the highest law official in the state, and then you come back at the bottom. And for your new folks, if, like, say, William and Tony decide to do this, we're gonna probably change it again because of circumstances a little bit. And when you send that original naked affidavit to the secretary of state, I would like for you to also copy Kash Patel, Bondi, and mister Trump at the bottom and send it to all them. K?
They need to they need to be exposed to this stuff. I know they got big things on their desk, and they got big deals they're working on, but they need to know about this. And we keep copying people that wanna change, their status to them, and maybe it'll get through to them. Who knows? Anyway, the protection that we are afforded is from the state. So we go to the attorney general, and I would like for, Mark and and myself to sit down and draft a cover letter for that thing for you and give you a copyable document that goes over a little of this background on protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection because you've got to alert them here as to what their responsibility is. And there's a real important reason for this I'm gonna get to in a second.
So now you go into your local area and you get if you got a sheriff, if you're not in Connecticut, if you got a sheriff, you got a chief of police, you got a district attorney. I don't think we're gonna have to worry about the local public health official anymore. There's no way in hell this shot's getting ever lined up again. And so you simply send them a a a a the copy of the affidavit with a cover letter. This is now on file with the secretary of state. If you, depending on if you've already gotten your passport, you could put a passport USAA passport has been issued, passport number, whatever whatever signifying that because now when you include that affidavit in that passport application and they process it, buddy, it's in the system right then. K? It's there.
All of our people get real antsy about being in there. And every time we've ever checked with a privacy request, or with direct contact with the passport office, they say, yep, here it is. One of them even pulled up our affidavit and went, wow. This is really good. We don't have any problem filing these. It says, well, I don't guess they'll be getting too many of the 31 page David Strait documents anymore since mister Strait has left the planet. But anyway and you put those people on notice and you do this same cc thing, carbon copy. So you send a copy to the attorney general, but on the bottom of the page, these other people are enumerated out, and they receive the exact same thing that you're sending to the secretary of state.
I mean, excuse me, to the attorney general in your state. And so now everybody has been covered. You've covered your ass. They've been served in the first part of due process. It says right at the top of the letters, lawful legal notice. Depending on who we're sending it to, there's other verbiage that we put up there. For instance, on this letter to the state AG, we would because they're all attached through the agencies. In other words, the attorney general of Florida handles and oversees all the sheriffs, all the chiefs of police, and all that. So they're all under the laws of agency. They're agents of the attorney general.
So now because you've put them on notice and notice and the right to be heard, well, occasionally, our folks will get something back from the attorney general, but most of the time, they don't. The California even the California attorney general said, well, we recognize our private citizens. Well, that's national. Private citizens, not public citizens. And so, you go through all that, and here's the beauty of it. Let's say that your chief of police or your sheriff pulls you over. They've been put on notice of this. They should be offering you protection, not prosecution, and they erroneously write you a ticket.
If they've been put on notice, and they take that ticket back and they get turn it in, it goes through the system, and the, the prosecutor dockets the ticket and you're in traffic court after he's been put on notice, well, now the policeman and the district attorney have lost their cloak of immunity that they would have if they were following the rules and regulations that they have to follow. But they didn't do that. They were told officially that you weren't under their control anymore, and they either didn't understand it or ignored it. Nobody's gonna drive that drive lots in my city.
You know that attitude. You know the attitude I'm talking about. And so they go do that, well, like Joe up in New Jersey with his situation. Well, now they've acted outside of their delegated responsibilities after they've been put on notice, and now they're personally liable. So now that Joe, for instance here's a a real life example. Joe won his case up there. He almost he was he was in a position, had not they reacted, to take over the city for him and the other citizens because he went all the way back to the original charter and the things that they were required to do that they weren't doing anymore. And he nailed them, and he sent copies to the governor and the attorney general in New Jersey. And all of a sudden, the local officials were real ready to stop dropping charges. Oh, oh, oh, we're gonna drop all those five charges, and and and you gotta come in and let's get some of this discovery stuff taken care of, and and then we're just gonna close the case. Well, what's the discovery thing?
Well, there must have been some things left in discovery on the suits that were filed, and they didn't wanna totally ignore that and leave open another appeal level. That's an appeal door. So they're going, we're gonna go back and take care of it. So everything's got all the i's dotted and all the t's crossed, and we're gonna go, bye, Joe. Hey. Nice to deal with you. Thanks. So now, Joe, I think that's supposed to be done about this time a year. It's happened earlier this year. Well, now, Joe, if they wouldn't have done that, Joe and the rest of the city under this I think it was a qui tam suit, a a common lawsuit, by the way, that, they would have taken back ownership of the city. Yeah. No. It filing papers doesn't work.
Well, it does if you know what you're doing. K? Because that would have never happened if Joe Joe wouldn't have known what we know and hadn't been such a wonderful legal researcher and process writer. He did all this himself. He's got two small children to raise, and he's a guitar teacher. Okay? So Joe has made great sacrifices here, and he's done really well. Alright. And, I would love to see now what do you do with Joe? Well, once we get this discovery thing taken care of, I think Joe's gonna go back and revisit the original policeman that started all this crap that had a penis erectus for him.
And, and also the judge, which, was fully informed. You could probably go through through the prosecutor too there too. The judge that finally, judge Joe was challenging jurisdiction, and it was driving the judge crazy. And finally, he said, do you buy gas? Well, yes, sir. I got jurisdiction. No. You don't, clown. No. Sorry. And by the way, there's two types of jurisdiction, subject matter and persona. We're talking about persona jurisdiction here, not subject matter. That judge probably does have control over the streets and stuff in his area of responsibility in his jurisdiction.
But that's subject matter jurisdiction. You don't have the rights to tell me after I've done this that I've gotta have one of your stinking tags to do that or one of your stinking licenses. So there's a case right there that as we go forward and, hopefully, Joe will go after these guys. I would love for us to get those scalps on our belt. We got those two scalps on our belt. Anywhere else in the country, these jokers start trying to pull something on you, you could. Well, the problem they've got is the case is under seal. So you can't direct them to the case because they immediately put the damn thing under seal, which means nobody's got access to it. You don't think that pieces of paper matter?
Well, you might be wrong. So anyway, that's basically what we do. We've got this whole process, and we button it down on the front end. We button it down on the back end, and, most of the time, we haven't had any problems with it. Yes, ma'am. Who was that?
[01:19:04] Unknown:
Rochelle, I have a question. When and if that time comes, hopefully soon, when persona jurisdiction is established in a county, what would it look like when that judge or that man, asks for trial by jury and establishes a court of one's peers in that county?
[01:19:29] Unknown:
Well, I you gotta have over 12 people in your county. Unless it's a petit jury, you gotta have over 12 people that have filed your affidavit. So you want a jury of your peers. But why if you got a jury of your peers, you're not gonna have much of a trial because the case is already decided by the fact that you've got 12 other nationals in the county.
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12 nationals or six in that county. Whichever. Yeah. All on the same board.
[01:20:00] Unknown:
Well, in the same county on the same line. Oh, yeah. I I I are you you're in Idaho. Right, Rochelle?
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Yes.
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Well, if you wanna move just a short hop to the east there and go over to Flathead County, man Montana, you can go live in a county where there's 50 plus nationals.
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But they haven't established the the meat the weights and the physiological land, original county where they can have a trial by jury
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yet. Well, I think the more exciting prospect I don't know why all you people want a court court. Everybody out here wants to go to court, which I try and keep you out of court. No. K? Alright. No. But,
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no. But everybody does. You have that right. Right. Alright? Because then, you know, you have to face your accuser right there that there's no judgment.
[01:20:53] Unknown:
Rochelle, I can't imagine why anybody would wanna put themselves through all that torture. K?
[01:20:59] Unknown:
No. It's I'm I'm saying you don't want to. You should not go to court, only in your paperwork. But if it came to that on a murder charge or something
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that So on a murder charge? Well, on a murder charge, you'd be if you did the murder, you're guilty. That's that is a capital crime. That's a common law crime. You took someone else's life. That's not traffic.
[01:21:26] Unknown:
That's true. So you only have so that would only be in a but don't we need trial by jury in a civil cases too? Because that destroys people's lives also when they're incarcerated.
[01:21:42] Unknown:
Well, I guess if you can get one, you're off on this hypothetical path again. What if? Okay? Uh-oh. I like to deal I like to deal with what is, not what if. Okay. It hadn't happened yet. Okay. Well, when it happens happens first is in a county like that. Okay. Well, if that's the case, you come to us, and we'll discuss it. Okay? Otherwise, we're chasing our tails. I'm learning. Okay. Well, we're chasing our tails here on all this what if stuff. Paul, did you have a comment?
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No. No. I didn't. But, I'm I'm hoping that, the hanging judge, Roy Bean, or whatever doesn't, doesn't go that far. I'm hoping.
[01:22:26] Unknown:
Well, let's hope not. No. And if so, you might wanna look at a different state or a different county. You can go state shopping now. County shopping. Anyway, that's what we do, and that's everything that I just told you. Now when I first stumbled onto this, the only thing I knew to do was, first of all, when we got on the air, I'd teach you from the bottom up, which should take about three hours of going over legal stuff and explanations and this, that, and the other before I could get you to the punch line. And now we've improved on that considerably over the years.
And, and now, oh, lost my train of thought. Anyway, what we're trying to do is get you educated where you got confidence. Just like Michael and his wife are trying to get through on taxes, they're still very apprehensive, and they want everything repeated. And they're gonna ask questions. They're gonna go back and talk about it and relisten to, stuff, and I understand that and no criticism there at all. I want you to take you gotta work at your own speed. I'm not trying to speed you up or slow you down. I'm just trying to say that you're if you really wanna be free, the the level and degree of freedom that you can achieve through our methods is directly correlated to how well you have commanded the information and how well you can defend your position.
How well you can defend your position, how well you can explain it to others, and how well you can explain it down the line if everything crashes, and we've gotta rebuild all this. And there's all these dumbasses around right now, about have fifty three percent are illiterate or or or can't read above the sixth grade level or third grade level and twenty one percent of the people in the country are totally illiterate. Well, I don't know that you're gonna have to worry about many of them. Okay? But of the people that are honestly looking for answers, if this crashes, if you don't understand it, you can't answer their questions.
And then when it comes time to rebuild, you can't incorporate your ideas into the rebuilding process so the loopholes can be changed and closed so that these slimy slaving pieces of human garbage can never do this again, and I'm not quite sure they're human. K? So that's why there's a lot of, thought and a lot of, experiences of people's experiences that go into how we instruct you to go forward should you want to achieve your freedom. Okay? It's tried and proven that I I don't think there's any any questionable areas of this necessarily. Everything's been proven to our well, to my satisfaction, I hope to yours, if they have been and you're in that position of decision, you'll decide decide to go down the free road. And the reason we do that, of course, I give you a total double your money back guarantee with no questions asked.
Double. K? That's because I don't charge anything. I do expect you to pay me, however, in learning the information and getting command of it so we can help spread this exponentially. We can't get evidently, we can't get people like Jeff Rents' audience attention. I I I literally cannot believe we haven't had one person show up from those two exposures on Rents. I I I can't believe that I could have a conversation with attorney Todd Callender for two hours, and he didn't get it. I I can't believe some of these things. But I do know our stuff is true. I do know it works, and I don't know why they can't think outside the box or see it. But for some reason, those people and others don't see it.
And I I just flat don't know except that we're the chosen people and that for some reason, because you're a truth seeker, you were chosen to cross paths with this information the same way I was thirty something years ago. That's the only conclusion I can draw that makes sense, Larry. Don't you agree? Yes. I agree.
[01:26:40] Unknown:
I just wanna add that the reason we put the attorney general on notice is because the attorney general in most states statutes and constitutions is considered the chief law enforcement officer of the state. Yeah. And that's also known as the principal. That's why you invoke the law of agency on your documents. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent because the principal is the attorney general, and he should have governing power over all of his agents in the state. Yep. He or she.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
You've had miss Bondy Or she. As the attorney general of Florida for quite some time. Now there's a lot of dissension on miss Bondy out there right now from different quarters, but the one that really surprised me was the accolades piled on her by one Roger Stone. He he he really likes her and evidently has personal relationship and dealings with her.
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Another thing, Roger, is, you
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have to do that bitch.
[01:27:44] Unknown:
Another thing is, the, the the attorney generals wear two hats and Yes. They have forgotten for the most part the common law hat. It's just sitting in their closet in dust. And, I was wondering if you could just go over that a little bit. Like, when when did they forget about that hat?
[01:28:08] Unknown:
Well, they it's still there and evidenced by Rochelle's question a minute ago about somebody on trial for murder. Well, murder all all property law is state law. So murder is a capital crime. It's not a federal crime. It's a state crime, and it's under the common law. All property law is state law. The only exception to that is you as an object of their property rights under the fourteenth amendment. Then that's federal property law. But to my knowledge, unless it's a or Fort Arsenal or Needful Building, that's the only type of, federal property that would come into any kind of, litigation, understanding, misunderstanding, whatever you wanna call it.
So, yeah, it's right there. And, but I was watching some guy during COVID. They were doing those Zoom trials. It was something out in Idaho, I think, somewhere out there in the Northwest, and they're dealing with a female judge. And she made a statement like, well, I've got to know that so I can decide which path we go down in this case. Well, what's she saying? I need to know that so we can find out whether we're gonna try it under the common law or whether we're gonna try it under us, UCC or something else, I guess. So, anyway, yep, they're all there. The only state that does not have common law is Louisiana because they're under Napoleonic code. Yep.
So anybody else got any questions or comments here? My little lecture for the day. I guess that was probably for William and Tony more than anybody else, but we probably got some other new folks on here. I continually get emails, not a lot, but a few from folks out there thanking us for what we do and and making different comments that are mostly complimentary. Mostly. So who else has got something this morning? Paul, you got something you wanna bring up? I thought maybe we have the Vegas crowd check-in with us this morning, but I hadn't heard them. Yeah.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Oh, they're probably, out having breakfast or something. Shit. They're probably shitless. Well, Brent had suggested yesterday that the second hour of yesterday's program was really, really good. So I did take a snippet of the second hour, and I uploaded that as, Radio Ranch one zero one. So that was published yesterday as well, including Mhmm. Transcript and all that. Cool. Actually Yeah.
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Yes, sir.
[01:30:49] Unknown:
Actually, let me, I gotta I gotta do this. I just have to. You are gonna absolutely love the AI description of yesterday's show. Yeah. Unraveling there we go. Radio Ranch one zero one, unraveling the tax code from Pollock to Brushaber, episode 1,008. In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of The US tax system focusing on historical cases and legislative changes that have shaped the current landscape. Our discussion begins with the Pollock v farmer's savings and loan case from the late eighteen hundreds, which challenged the constitutionality of direct taxes. We then explore the pivotal year of 1913 when the sixteenth and seventeenth amendments and the Federal Reserve Act were introduced, fundamentally altering the financial and political framework of The United States.
The conversation highlights the controversial ratification process, the sixteenth amendment, and its implications on national taxation. We also examined the significance of the Bruce Haber v Union Pacific Railway case and its connection to treasury decision twenty three thirteen, shedding light on the legal interpretations of tax obligations. The episode further discusses the role of the IRS and the fear it instills as well as the strategies individuals use to navigate or challenge the tax system. Through listener interactions, we hear personal experiences and insights into the complexities of tax filings, citizenship status, and the broader implications of being classified as a US citizen or nonresident alien.
This episode is a deep dive into the legal and historical context of taxation in America, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of its evolution and current challenges.
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Damn. I think I'll just let AI come in and host the day.
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I nailed it.
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Man, that I I tell you what, every time you read one of those things, Paul, I'm just if that impresses the pants off me.
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I couldn't do any better.
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Was that Dave or who who's trying to say something there? Julia. Julie. Julie. I'm so glad you helped you. Good morning. How are you?
[01:33:23] Unknown:
I'm good. How are you guys? Hey. Paul, you read something after the show ended yesterday, and you said you dropped it into the recent folder. Do you remember what you titled it?
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Yeah. It was, Paul Bieners answer.
[01:33:38] Unknown:
Oh. Okay. I have to search for that. Yeah. Just go down to the p's I'm so glad you called in today. In light of all these tariff changes and everything, you know, it looks like there's gonna be just a a ton of economic activity taking place in The US, and there's gonna be an opportunity for people that really are entrepreneurial. That's what I call them. People that are really entrepreneurial, to go out and make fortunes. Right? Like, in entree I think that's during
[01:34:10] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I think every have a down downturn. There's always, opportunities to profit on them. I mean, that's what all of these Bilderbergs do and Rothschilds and everything. They profit immensely off the look at all the investments they've made in Pfizer and then Moderna, and they just Of course. Reports with that. Yeah. But, I wanted to also
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Okay. Let me just hold hold that for a second. I wanna ask you if you heard that statement out of Andy Hitchcock's, Synagogue of Satan book wherein 14 the late well, it's in the late fourteen hundreds, and some of the Jews that were still left in, in Spain that were ordered to get out. They wrote the Sanhedrin in Constantinople and telling them about the situation, and the Sanhedrin wrote back and said, make your children apothecaries so they can kill Christians. Yeah. Fourteen ninety eight.
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Yeah. Well, they're doing that all over again with the Noahide laws right now. So All that is is the pharmaceuticals.
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Do you know that Jewish mothers with their children put honey on books on the cover of books and have their children lick the honey off the cover of the book?
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Yeah. I didn't know that.
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Yep.
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I wanted to ask you about this. I wanted to ask you a question. I was thinking about it last night, so I'm glad you popped up today. Are you familiar with the name Jesse Livermore?
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Livermore?
[01:35:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Speaking of making fortunes and stuff. Yeah. You ever heard of him, Jesse Livermore?
[01:35:52] Unknown:
I think I have, but remind me again.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Well, do you remember the book and the movie, The Great Gatsby?
[01:36:00] Unknown:
Yep. I have the book. I love that book. That that was fashioned after Jesse Livermore.
[01:36:07] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Jesse Livermore was the, the sage investor in the twenties who, lost and made a fortune eight different times in about ten years. One of them, he was married about went through wives about like that too. One one of his wives, he bought her a bunch of jewelry and he went bankrupting, went to her to get the jewelry and, so he could sell it and get another start. And she wouldn't do it, so he divorced her.
[01:36:35] Unknown:
Yeah. I think I remember him. He was really good with trading, but now you can't use his, strategies anymore because AI has taken over stock trading.
[01:36:46] Unknown:
Well, maybe. I'm gonna give you his motto here in a minute, but I wanted to tell you about him because most people don't know about it. I just I heard about the guy, and I went and I was fascinated by him, and I went back and researched him. So for those of you, Andre Minorial, who want to maybe make money in the upcoming switch over to tariffs and rebuilding of America, there's gonna be some fortunes made here. And I couldn't help but think of Jesse Livermore.
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And he lost Yeah. He made a profit. He made a profit in the 1929.
[01:37:15] Unknown:
He made a profit in the stock market crash of nineteen twenty nine. He he was a humdinger. I I'm gonna give you the extent of that in just a second because I heard this on a program about him. Back in the twenties, in New York City, they didn't have traffic lights. They had traffic towers where people would see the flow of the traffic and stop at one way and start at the other and all that. And he had a very unusual car that they could recognize, and Jesse Livermore never stopped for a red light in New York City.
[01:37:52] Unknown:
Very interesting.
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He was that legendary even in his own time. K? Now somebody asked him, said, what's your formula? He said, buy right, sit tight. That's the Jesse Livermore formula. Buy right, sit tight.
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Yes. He also said a stock that's never too high to buy and never too low to short.
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Yeah.
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Right. Yeah. He was
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a he was a heck of an operator. Okay? You probably never heard of the guy. Very influential in those, well, a hundred years ago, just about now. So pretty cool. But, anyway, I was thinking about that, and you're pretty steady, knowledgeable gal. And I said, well, hell, I'll ask Julie if she knows about old Jesse. Yes. Very interesting fellow, Jesse Livermore. Bye. Right? Sit tight. Yep.
[01:38:50] Unknown:
There you go. I like that. There's, I wanted to bring up something else. There's this guy on Telegram. Probably a lot of people in in your channel know about him. His name is Alfonso, Foglio or Figlio. I can never pronounce his last name. He's a guy out of Pennsylvania. He and James Tracy are really going after these courts for these property taxes. So, you know, he was describing the last time he was in court in Pennsylvania and had to educate the judges and all the attorneys that were against him what the laws were. They didn't even know what the laws were, and they were citing case law that didn't have anything to do with, you know, an individual's right to own property. He's like he told the judge, how can you tax a right that's a right for me to own property? That's like me taxing you for the right to free speech. How how do I put a value on the right for you to talk? And so anyway, it he was just it was very humorous how he was describing. So I guess he's describing his case.
So I guess he's, he's appealed this and he's going to another level, but he's also doing the Joe Lustica thing here representing himself in court and going after these people for laws that do not exist when it comes to taxing property and you can only tax property if it's in commerce. It seems like if you're sitting at your home and you're sleeping, eating and watching TV or reading, that's not taxable. And he's also going after the third party that the counties have contracted with to use their software assigned values to your home. So anyway, I I do follow him because he's extremely smart, about these these county and state laws that are Yeah. Totally, corrupt and fraudulent.
[01:40:41] Unknown:
What we're, what we're doing is, the death of a thousand cuts, and they're getting hit from all kinds of directions. And us, these type of people, people after their oaths, just all these little factions around the country that have got their own little, area of expertise that they're pursuing and, fantastic.
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Yeah. There's a he has a website for anybody who's interested. It's called municipalterrorism.com.
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Well, that's good.
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That's the name
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of the United.
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Do you know what the definition of terrorism? It was. They've changed it, of course, in the Yeah. That would be the English nation. Government. That would be any government agency. Said intimidation by government as in the French Revolution. That was the number one definition of terrorism in the finest dictionary of the world, the Oxford English Dictionary. And then a couple years ago, they put something else in there. We don't want that in there. Lord's sakes.
[01:41:45] Unknown:
Yeah. He's got link he's got links to all of the case law resources as well as all the documents What? Good for him. On his site to help you out. So, he's trying to get this, you know, overturned, and you've got, Ron DeSantis now out in, out in Florida talking about repealing property taxes down there as well. So we'll have Well, it's got some legs. It's got some legs around the country and justifiably so.
[01:42:15] Unknown:
And, we'll we'll see. It's just Yeah. You know, Julie, I'm really I'm just a one horse pony. You know? One trick pony. Oh, you're a good pony. Giddy up. Well, okay. I've been giddy up, and I'm stopping for a little water on Apple about right now.
[01:42:33] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. I've been I've spoken to Tony and William. And like Larry said before, I think you just misinterpreted them because they do understand this stuff. I think Tony's whole entire and William's whole entire, thing is that or their whole entire spiel is all about the fact that we have such corrupt courts here and such corrupt judiciary here that you can have the best written paper and you can note all of the actual rights and laws behind all of those. But if you have, corrupt judges in courts that are going to disregard that and make their own laws, which is what they're doing in some of the states with like the guy in Georgia who has to have to go have a hearing. And in August of this year, then we have this utter lawlessness here. And I think that was their whole entire point here is that things that fourteen years ago, when you started this, things are a lot different now from the standpoint of utter lawlessness.
[01:43:35] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, one thing that they automatically assume is that you're gonna have to go to court. What we try and do with our information is keep you out of court because their courts don't apply to you. Okay? So we try to get in those situations. We try and deal with it administratively out front and try and do everything we can do to get you out of there unless some people just wanna go in there and do it. And I don't know whether they're sadists or masochists. I haven't decided yet, Julie, but some people really enjoy that. And I guess if you can get over the nerves and have a little bit of knowledge on process, it can be very, very joustable, if you say. It can be almost chivalrous like the way some kind of court things are supposed to be, like the the statement. The, sir, are you an independent trier of facts, or are you a party to the action?
[01:44:28] Unknown:
Right. Now I get that. I just think that, you know, I I understand there's in fact, even, Alfonso makes the quote on his site when the government, fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. And I just think some of the people here here right now. I mean, look what they're doing. They're throwing people. They threw Tina Peters in jail in Colorado for nothing. I know. For nothing. Colorado. So I think these people do, I think they hate government has succeeded in instilling fear in in people. Sometimes I myself fear them at times. I'm like, I don't wanna fear them, but just creeps into my brain.
Right. And then I gotta get it out. I gotta work on, you know, my interest.
[01:45:12] Unknown:
It will come. You keep studying. You keep growing, and that will come. But it is not I got it. Doesn't happen. It doesn't happen overnight. Okay? Oh, I know. Unfortunately. Because it didn't get there overnight. It's very deep conditioning. And Joan wants to weigh in. Hey, Joan. Lauren. Isn't that Joan? Oh, it's Lauren. It's Lauren. You sound like It's Lauren. You sound like Joan. You sound like our coastal river in South Carolina. Hi, Lauren. Hi. Hey, Lauren. Two days in a row. Yeah. Meet Julie.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
Got it. Yeah. Hi, Julie. I followed all of Alphonse Agiolo's, YouTubes intensely because I am in Pennsylvania. And he does have that tax code down very, very well and all of the definitions. And I did go to his Telegram channel a long time ago and and
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was
[01:46:10] Unknown:
You're clipping a little, Lauren.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
K. Is it Let's see. Try again. Said okay. He said, keep that Patriot crap out of here. And I thought, okay. Well, you're gonna have a long fight, bud. Because until you change your citizenship status, you are going to continually to be viewed as the of your house. Well Not a foul plan. It's you.
[01:46:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Didn't somebody say he, works with Joe? I would imagine Joe would inform him on that. No. No. No. He doesn't work with Joe. He's, been working with Brian Tracy. Brian Tracy is going after property taxes in a different state, and he has a a Telegram channel called affidavits one zero one. So, yeah. But, I think I think that, Alfonso, he doesn't say to keep that national status out of his chat. I think he says to keep the birth certificate and the all caps name and your straw man out of his chat. Oh, all of that Patriot stuff. Yep. Yep. Well, I agree with him on that. I mentioned
[01:47:16] Unknown:
I mentioned the fourteenth amendment and the citizen status, and he shot me down real fast. So I thought, okay. Wow. I like Roger says, I don't wanna go to court. I just wanna file the paperwork and let them know where I stand and let them know I know what the laws are, and I am outside of the jurisdiction that you're trying you're trying to apply to me. I would much rather do that.
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It's much easier. Tread on me. Have to fight. Don't tread on me.
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So Yeah. No. So that's pretty good. I'm back.
[01:47:48] Unknown:
Well, I'm just tickled to death to have you back. Are you is your garden you're setting your garden up already? You already got it going? Oh,
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well, the all the well, it's too cold here to put the baby.
[01:47:59] Unknown:
So right now, they're living in my bedroom. Okay. Hey, Roger?
[01:48:03] Unknown:
Yes. Julie.
[01:48:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to I'll let somebody else talk. I also wanna let you know that, you know, Tony and William are huge fans of, Robert Barnes. They they subscribe to barnesreview.com, And there's they and to the three radio shows that, that he he has, the political cesspool, the ASP report, and the TBR History Hour. So that's that's another thing you guys all have in common because you're a big fan of, Robert Barnes as well. Well, I am. Well, somebody I highly respect.
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By the way, he is they had a pretty good show Sunday night, and he's moving his whole deal back to Chattanooga. And they're gonna start having, get togethers and stuff in Chattanooga and in the Southeast. And if any of you wanna check on that, it might be in that area. I think they've got a big one coming up planned in August. It it's, viva barnes law, viva barnes law dot locals dot com. And subscription information, all their shows, and, yeah, he does a lot of stuff, you know, Bourbon with Barnes and some of his hush-hush things, and he really gives. I think they charge for a membership $10 a month. Mark was doing it for a while, but you get a lot of value for $10 a month. K?
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Yeah. And then they're live on rumble. You have Viva Barnes. I think it's b e b I d e barns, all one word on rumble on Sunday evenings. And if you missed the live, you can watch the rerun Could they upload it? Yeah. Well, when they're live in the early evening, late afternoon, early evening, they've always got that trailer up on rumble.com
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at the top there. And then when it's finished, you can but I don't I don't join it live. I just wait till it's recorded and listened. But, yeah, I've got all that admiration for Barnes. I'd love to get to him. He's given indications that he understands, but yet he doesn't understand. And, the example that really comes to mind was here about a year or a little more ago. There were some Supreme Court cases that dealt with I can't remember what the main topic was. There's two or three of them that were decided. And they came back and Barnes said, the fourteenth amendment is the great equalizer.
And then he kind of got this little crappy and grin on his face. And, and that's right. But it's not the whole picture. It equalized us down to what? Federal citizens. So he and he I've heard him say stuff. They they act like they own you and stuff like that on there. So he's close, and maybe one of these days, we'll get the chance to introduce it to him.
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But, yeah, I like that. I like You can get on you can get on that show. There's, like, 25,000, listeners live. It's amazing how many people he amasses every time every Sunday night.
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Well, I do. I listen. Well, oh, you mean live, I guess. Well, you just send him a message or something. Now watch it. We'll get we'll cross paths with mister Barnes at some point is my prediction. And I and I've had several instances with attorneys that just flat refused to believe this. Okay? And I don't want him to be one of them, so I haven't pressed it at this stage. Yeah. I agree. But, you you know, there's the question. Here's one question I'd like to ask him. Hey, Ron Barnes. What makes one subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Duh.
It's the key phrase in the whole thing. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It's never been adjudicated but one time in 1878. What makes one subject to the jurisdiction thereof? And it doesn't tell you what makes you subject. It just tells you what the phrase means, subject to the political jurisdiction of the federal government. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. I don't know if Lauren's still on the, on the call, but I had a question for her. Yes. I think it was yesterday when she was on. Okay.
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We haven't seen her in years. So, yeah, Lauren. Alright. Let's make sure get where he because you were clipping when when you were talking to us a minute ago. Larry, what's your question for the lovely one?
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Well, she sounds like an established student, and and, I don't wanna change the subject too much, but she said yesterday that she got her driver's license renewed. And I was wondering what her thoughts are on that whole issue. Does she do wanna continue the contract with the state? Is she eventually going to get, like like, maybe do a Joe Lustica process with DOT plates? I was just thinking I wanted to hear her thoughts on that subject.
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Lauren Lauren's going has a big she's a big gardener. Maybe she sells her produce and goes around in commerce. Lauren, you wanna answer Larry's question?
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I am not. I I'm just gonna leave that alone because I am a single woman, and I am all too familiar with police brutality, and I like to stay out of court. Yep.
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So if it's just see, all those kind of things, they're personal decisions on how you want to make your life better and livable. K? K. They're all personal decision. Some people will say one thing, some others. Yes, Mirka. Here you are. Hey, Mirka. Hey. Good morning. Hey. Hi, Lauren. Nice to hear your voice.
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Nice nice to hear your voice. He she has a lot of, info. I've been I chat with Lauren and Padgett all the time, and, she did share, Alfonso. Is is that is that his name with whom Alfonso. Yeah. And I reviewed his information, but, he he doesn't, he doesn't really, like, follow the affidavit stuff. So, I mean, it's good data you can follow and and take in and research.
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He's a big Barnes fan, you say? Well, I wonder what he thought about Barnes saying Pennsylvania has the most corrupt courts in the country. Barnes is not he's not a real big fan of your court system there, Lauren.
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Oh, I I can understand that.
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You know, he he's the one that's defending Amos Miller. Do you know about Amos Miller? Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. He Oh, yes. I do. Yep. Yep. Barnes is his attorney. Pro bono, by the way.
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Well and I have sent Amos Miller information specifically about the citizenship status and also Aladass, man and other animals Yeah. To forward to forward those those ones to Barnes as well. So Yeah. You know, you can only do so much.
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Wherever freedom is challenged, Barnes is gonna show up, and I just really admire him for his, tenacity and his audacity. Right? So, and some of us have got that too, don't we, Lauren? So good to hear your voice again two days in a row and everybody else and I hope you got something out of today. It was kind of elementary but, it's for newer people and as I think everybody will attest to, you just can't hear this stuff enough. I don't believe you can. So anyway, we'll take another stab at it tomorrow, see what comes up. Maybe we'll get Mark or somebody on. He's been with us on Wednesdays and Saturdays till he took off out there to Vegas for a couple of days, so we'll find out. Anybody's got any good questions or comments, we'd love to hear them tomorrow. And all of us will find out together what happens the rest of today because things kind of volatile, it would seem.
So thank you. Love each and every one of you. Just Lauren, I'm so tickled to see you back. Not too many of our old students come back like that. Thanks for visiting us. And we will hope you'll continue to do so and participate and input and all the stuff and give others your experience. And I just love each and every one of you. As you get out and start talking to people about this, you'll know why. So, otherwise, see you tomorrow. Ciao.
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And we're off.
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Alright. And, of course, it's Tuesday, which is the Patriot Expat Day. I got a little more breathing room with the time change, but, it's still that afternoon. And just as soon as we it's been beautiful the whole time we've been on the air and just now clouded up and probably rained this afternoon. So but we're not out of our weather pattern yet. So anybody got anything for me now? Well, you can be thankful you don't have my weather. Oh, I'm I'm expecting between six and nine inches of snow this week. I don't want anything to do with New York, quite frankly. Yes. Who's trying to get through? Oh, good. This is William.
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Yeah. We were just coming in, but I I Okay. Yeah. Hey. How are you doing? Yeah. I've I've spoken with Larry and, Julie, and, you know, we kinda expressed our our Okay. Position on the show. We're not, yeah, we're not saying that the paperwork don't work, but I want I didn't I didn't wanna chime in on that. I wanna chime in while we're doing the show. Now do you all consider yourself white nationalists?
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Well, you could say that in the strictest definition of the word. I'll tell you what. Most of us also consider ourselves to be Christian nationalists as they're throwing that around. It's very accurate description of us. Now do you understand, William, where they get the term national
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before the March 14? From the black from the black nationalist perspective, I get it. But I'm not sure make sure I'm understanding from your perspective.
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Well, I I put across where I think there's there's another whitey, trying to get across where they got the word. Okay? And in the before the fourteenth amendment, if you take a vertical line and kind of put these things vertically, God, state citizen, citizen of The United States Of America, or a national citizen. Do you follow that? So that's would y'all be would you say it? Yeah. Well, that's yeah. That's the way it's laid out. Now here's what they did. With the fourteenth amendment, they took God at the top and they put substitute the federal government. And instead of being a state citizen first, you're a citizen of the federal citizen of The United States First, and then second, a state citizen, but only if you reside.
They switched them. They switched God, and they switched the order on the other two.
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That's all that's happening. Well, we let I I yeah. Now what I like to say that we let they if they didn't do it, we let them do it. Okay. We the people because we're not we're not fighting against them in any capacity. So we've let them do. But everything y'all accused them of doing on this show, we've actually it's the people. We've we the people have left them. We've allowed them to do it. No. I agree. Yeah. But that's because it was executed with fraud.
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That's because it was executed with fraud, and we weren't able to sniff out their plans. And that's why when we file this paperwork,
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you expose the fraud, and they have to recognize it. Mhmm. Now so when y'all were talking about the Barnes, Julie had mentioned I had mentioned to Julie, about the Barnes review and American Free Press. Oh, no. But you were saying something about
[01:59:53] Unknown:
Robert Barnes. He's an attorney. Are you're not familiar with Robert Barnes, the attorney?
[01:59:58] Unknown:
That no. I don't think so. If it if it's not in association with the Barnes Review. No. It's not. He's a different guy. He's a champion guy.
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Followed by when he was young, got a scholarship to Yale, went to Yale along with, probably after, but along with Eric Clarence Thomas. And then something happened. He got in a pissing match with him and ended up graduating at the University of Wisconsin. He's an extremely good attorney. Remember, who was the black actor that they ran up for taxes down there in Florida?
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Oh, Wesley Snipes?
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Yeah. He was Snipes' attorney. He's also got an I he was Snipes' attorney. He's also got a an IRS company. But he's been around a long time. He's real high profile now. And, as I said, wherever freedom is challenged, Barnes shows up, and usually it's pro bono. He's got his own site constitutional law seventeen seventy six or something, and they handle a bunch of pro bono work. Like I told, like I told, Lauren, hey. Are you familiar with Amos Miller? Not no. I'm not. Uh-uh. Amos Miller? He's an he's an Amish farmer up there that the feds in Pennsylvania have been prosecuting for years.
He's a fourth generation Amish farmer since his Okay. No. I have to make sure that he's all well, all over the country for I think for twenty five years, he's you know that he's never had they're trying to shut him down. He's never had in twenty five years one complaint filed about Enbridge products anywhere. Yeah. And they're trying to matter of fact, I've read an article,
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I've read an article in American Free Press. Julie as well, you might wanna check that out. I read an article in America Free Press recently about that. Yeah. Right. That was interesting. Barnes just Barnes comes through as his his aide is and has gotten him out all that shit up there. So,
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he's a heck of an attorney. Every Sunday night, him and another, attorney who's a Canadian former attorney, and his, is Viva Fry. That's why they've got all this French stuff. He's he's from that part of Canada. Viva Fry and and Barnes, and they have a show on Rumble that's live from five or six till eight, eight thirty. And then it's over there on Rumble. You can go over and get it in all the episodes. Just put Viva Barnes Law in search, and they'll come up. Okay.
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Music Health and Yeah. I'll check that out on Sunday. Yeah. I'll check that out on Sunday. I'm just yeah. I was really key, wanted to, talk to you all about the white nationalist perspective because I do like I said, I do read the American Free Press and the Barnes Review, and they're considered by this government a white national nationalist paper, but they're more of a unifier to me than than a divisionary, Oh, yeah. Concept of perspective. So and so I but I read a lot of the black nationalist stuff too, like Marcus Garvey. And Marcus Garvey you familiar with him?
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Yes. From the last century in New York. Yes. Yeah. That's where he met. He ran
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for a lot. He ran for president while he was in jail, didn't he? I don't I don't think Garvey ran for president. I don't think now. Don't don't quote me on it, but I got a lot of material. But my my keen interest on him was when he met see, I come from the Black Nationalist perspective, and I when I read Garvey about and the UNIA and how they met with the Ku Klux Klan, and he formed an alliance with the Ku Klux Klan, the organic Ku Klux Klan that was started by Nathan Bedford, I believe it was.
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Nathan Bedford Forrest. Forrest.
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Forrest. That was it. Yeah. So yeah. And they started the organic Klan, and and there were a thousand black members in the organic or the original Ku Klux Klan. And so Garvey Yep. Created an alliance from the from the UNI, the United Negro Improvement Association back in the twenties. He met with them and created an alliance and the black and the we we call them the black uncle Toms. We're furious about that. But in in me, when I read it, I was really impressed. And so that's why I like to talk to people that are who are of the white nationalist perspective. I can't stand the white liberals, but I like the folks of the white nationalist perspective coming, you know, coming from the black We can't either. Well, what's happening here is we're coming together is what you're describing.
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And we we get together instead of being split apart and adversarial, we get brought together and we go, hey, William. See these sumbitches over here? They're the ones that are doing all this. We go, yeah. I see them. I know. Well, now we're united, and that's their big fear. And that's why I told you when y'all showed up, I told you I welcomed people from the black community with open arms around here. That's why. Mhmm.
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Yeah. And that yeah. And we we didn't want we didn't want to give people the impression that we weren't getting back on the show, but we were reached out to by Larry and, Julie. Julie. And, you know, they were trying to explain knowing he I and we don't we never thought that you were, a white I mean, a a a person trying to call division, but we were concerned that you were misconstruing what we were saying.
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Now, you know, I've had I've had some people that wanted to assist me and help me set up a website and stuff. And I gave them I gave them these two quotes. I said, I like these at the top of the website. The first one is Goethe, who is German, wrote Faust. It says, there are none so helplessly enslaved as those who fall asleep believe they're free. Boy, is that accurate. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Under that was Harriet Tubman. And I wonder if you Harriet Tubman. That's why you know any reference. Well, I was gonna if you're gonna tell you that's quote from her. Oh, I've heard it. Freed a thousand slaves. I freed a thousand slaves. I would have freed more.
And I could have freed thousands more actually if they only knew they were Yeah. Rogers.
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Yeah. But she only actually did 300.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Whatever. Yeah. But and she said good for Yeah. But she said yeah.
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Anyway, the guy told me, he said, I won't put a quote from a black person at the top of the site. And right then, I said, well, we're not gonna work together very well. So I I just don't I I think that's a bunch of shit. That wasn't the way I was brought up. My father didn't raise me under those values, and I don't maintain them today. And if you don't believe me, ask Brent Bachman on here who's been a friend of mine for over thirty years from Atlanta. K?
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Roger? Who who? No. Brent Bachman, you said?
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Yeah. Brent. His last name is Bachman. He's out in Las Vegas now. He said something a minute ago about you being white. He's got one of those great, great Negro based voices. Brent, say something. Now you can't call him out. He's off doing something. I hate white.
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He sound like very white.
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Just Yeah. The walrus of love is what we used to call him. Tell where's your saying, Brent? Just another act of the man keeping us down.
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Oh, another example of a man keeping us down.
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How old are you? How how old are you, Brent?
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Sixty seven.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. We wanna sing. I'm 64. So, yeah, I think we come from the same mindset.
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Yeah. Yeah. I bet you can tell it's big as the side of a house too. Right? And I'm a little bitty guy.
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Yeah. Yeah. The boys the boys all that bass and the boys. Yeah. You make me pretty tall. But yeah. So that's where we were that's where we were, coming from. But I have been looking over the site.
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And Okay. Well
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yeah. Oh, and so so the, but the white nationalism, I wanted to get make sure I had clarity on that because I don't deal with no white liberals. I don't I can't stand No. No. No. Well, that's where they get the that's, I'm sure, where they got the label was that first thing I described to you, the state citizen who were predominantly
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white, not exclusively. Well, they were the ones that were state citizens, citizens of The United States Of America or a national citizen because all the states were conglomerated as independent countries. That's how they thought of themselves. So Roger? Yeah. I'm yes. I think that's where they get the label, William. Yeah. What you got, Myrca? And and and there's a difference between national and a nationalist.
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Nationalist believes in nationalism. We are nationals of the, you know, of the state of the 50 states, you know, sovereign states. And we are individually, you know, take you know, carrying on our claim as a private individual. And nationalism nationalism is, you know, bringing in advocacy to nationalism. So, you know, when not when you're advocating for nationalism, it's an elevation of one nation over a nationality above all others. Mhmm. So Yeah. It's not the same as what we're doing.
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Yep. And they and, you know, we've we've never declared. We've never labeled ourselves that directly or I've thought of in my mind as they've developed this label to be derogatory. They mean for people to take that derogatorily. Oh, there are some of those Christian nationals. Yeah. That's us. Okay. So it's like their new substitution for the term sovereign citizen
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In some way Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, man, but the funny thing is is if you ask me, are you a Christian national? I go, well, yeah. Or and what has Brent been teaching These courses last eight, nine weeks on Christian nationalism. But, yeah, they've molded that label for us. They're not using it against us. They're using it derogatorily for the people that don't understand.
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It just happens to fit us perfectly. Who is that just speaking? What what's the lady name that was just speaking at? Myrka. She's the one.
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Uh-huh. Myrka. And she's the one that runs the Telegram channel. If you've tapped into that, she got about 500 students over there. Telegram national status freedom, three words, or the link is, on the website somewhere. Oh, it's on the web okay. If it's on the website, I'll I'll post it in the chat right now.
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Oh, okay. Oh, well, is the chat still up now? Yeah. Are you on the phone? Are you in the chat? Yeah. I'm on my phone, unfortunately. Tony, you on the phone?
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And and Larry has the link too, so he can share with you. Yeah. Let me see if you can see my phone.
[02:10:58] Unknown:
Yeah. You won't have any. Julia or Larry. Share it with me, Julia or Larry.
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Okay. Julia or Larry. Share with it. Share, Mark. Julie, he's probably in front of her computer. Just cheer him to them if you guys got contact, coach up. Yeah. And, yeah, I know. You know what? The the the discussion with me with the other day with Tony was not it wasn't anger. It's frustration. Because I want y'all to know that what we do here is real different. It's real grounded. It's real lawful, and it's recognized and all that. And it wasn't something where the people come kick your door in. It's the people that haven't gone through this that may accidentally or intentionally get their door kicked down. But literally, right down there by you in, around Clearwater, I think, William, one of our our guys, the sheriffs came to their house on some question about their bay there was a baby question there.
And, they came out and said, here's our affidavit. We put them on notice, and they left, and everything went swimmingly.
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So, I think Clearwater?
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I was in that area. I'm not sure in Clearwater, but somewhere in that part of Florida. And it's our, our I just his name doesn't come to me right now. Anyway, he's the one that told us that. But that's experiences we generally have or they don't mess with you at all. You know? Or they'll send you something and say, well, we'll get back with you. We're looking at your account, and you never hear from them again in the case of the IRS. Some of that, but we're on the up and up. And, we're welcoming you guys with open arms, William and Tony. And, as you get deeper into it and have more questions, that's what we're here for right here. K? Yeah. And, Roger? Kinda went, over that sequence today. We hear somebody from your area right here, William, as Bob. Yeah, Bob.
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Yeah. Might be instructive. At least I've almost always found it to be instructive to go back to the root of a word. And when you look at the word national or nation, it's a common root with nativity. It has to do with a common birth. So Okay. I'm not gonna expound on that, but you can put that together and do a little research on it. Basically, it's impossible to have a nation of disparate people that have no common birth. It defies the definition of a nation. You may have a country with a lot of different ethnic groups in it, but that doesn't comprise a nation in specific terms.
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Correct. It's a people. I think one of the definitions is a people, like a race. That's one of Paul English's big deals. William Another thing, Roger. Bob here Bob here is right down by you in Okeechobee. K? Yes, Marco. Okay.
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So where are you at?
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We we're in Clearwater and Spring Okay. Area. Tony's in Spring Hill, but but you said Bob. Right?
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Yes. Correct.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Terribly far away. Well, let's reach out.
[02:14:21] Unknown:
Sure. Alright. William, what I need for you to do is to send me an email
[02:14:27] Unknown:
Yes. At my email is radio Let me type it in right now. Okay.
[02:14:34] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Website? It's oh, hey. There's Gary too. Radioranch,nospace,2radioranch,nospace,@mail,mail,notGmail,mail.com. Radio ranch, no space, mail dot com. Here's another one of our old time listeners here today too, William, for you, and that's Gary. And he's out in Flathead County, Montana and has a weekly group when he swell of over 50 people a week that come and they've been through the process. Hey, Gary. Are you feeling better?
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Oh, yeah. I'm feeling a lot better. Oh, you sound better. And I got a lot of people wanting me to go back doing classes again, but I don't know about that. Okay. But one thing I wanted to point out was Bob mentioned the nationality, and that's one thing that's all this immigration. Connect the dots. All this immigration is to weaken our nationality. Of course. Whether it's the black nationals, whether it's white nationals, it doesn't matter. Yeah. If you were born in this country, you've been immigrated from another country, think about the fact that they have no values or understanding of our history or anything of this nation.
They even come from a different social era class,
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and it's being done that's Language.
[02:16:02] Unknown:
Exactly. It was being done on purpose to weaken that nationality and the loyalty to this country.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
There's never been a nation that spoke two different languages that existed except like Canada where the French speakers, the Liberals, have moved off to the East and everybody else moved west. So, yeah, all those things are correct. Larry, I'm really Gary, I'm glad to hear you sounded so good, man.
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Well Hey. I'm over Gary Yeah. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. Agree wholeheartedly. What I wanna know is if I come up there, can you are you still cooking ham and eggs in the morning?
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Well, this morning, it was chicken and eggs.
[02:16:45] Unknown:
I see. Yeah. So Well, I have I I've never made it up there, but if I ever did, when I heard you had a little cafe going there, I thought to myself, I'll have to put that on my bucket list. I I bought it list. Appreciate that. And for William's information
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for William's information, I've been a national since 02/2008. I have not filed taxes. I have never once received any notice from the IRS in all those years. And that's what? Seventeen years? So learn the information, trust the information, and wonderful things will happen to you.
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There you go. Okay. Thanks a lot, my friend. Wait. What's your name again? Better. Gary. You get you keep getting better, Gary. He's had a a pancreatitis and and some other very painful,
[02:17:39] Unknown:
conditions left. You sound good, Gary.
[02:17:42] Unknown:
Yeah. He does. Gotcha. One more Okay. One more thing. Okay. One more thing, William. I gotta go in a minute. Go ahead.
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Just he said we the people, what I've learned in research is that we we are not we the people. We the people are congress and the military of The United States, and we are just the people of United States Of America. Not we the people the people. No. We the people was was something that they created to fool the people, and their words their words that they changed around, in the reconstruction.
[02:18:21] Unknown:
Merck, I think that's a reach, but I'm not gonna discuss it with you today.
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We the people in congress assembled? Don't think that's a reach.
[02:18:30] Unknown:
We're we're our re
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okay. We the people in congress assembled. Says it right there. They were our they were our representatives.
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They were representing us at that point.
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K? So but, anyway, that's my opinion. If y'all wanna think the It it was just something that they they used to fool the people, Roger,
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to Where did you get that from? Them
[02:18:52] Unknown:
from from, you know, them being for The United States. This is where they brought in and changed all the words, you know, the quit the equivitate equidicated I can't even say it. Equidicated all the words like state capital state, little you know, small letter state. And, you know, now putting in the fourth thirteenth and fourteenth amendment, bringing in the corporation as a person. You know, they changed all a lot of the words for people not to figure out what they're doing, and this is how they consented and volunteered to become a US citizen. Fantastic.
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I'm going to lunch. I'll, I'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Have a good day. Thanks. Alright. Alright. Good to see you two back, William, Tony.
[02:19:41] Unknown:
Bye. Yep. Okay. Bye. I sent you an email, Roger.
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William and Tony, if you haven't seen Jones's Plantation by Larkin Rose, I really suggest you watch it. I hope you have.
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No. I haven't. Say it again. I'm gonna try Julie, could you type that in? The the just text? Say it again, my friend. Julie may have left, though. Let me see.
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I think the title is Jones's Plantation. It's it's produced by a Larkin Rose.
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It's just Jones Plantation.
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Jones. Oh. Oh, I've seen Jones Plantation. Is that with, that actor that came out came out the regular theaters? Is that the one you're talking if that's the same one?
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Oh.
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With the group of slaves, you uniting with the working class whites. K. Let me just put it in. Say it again. No. Jones Plantation
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Jones Plantation? Yeah. Jones Plantation film, I think, is the website. You can go find it.
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Okay. It's a website? Yeah. It was. Alright. I got it in. There's a website for the movie. Okay. And what, just kinda just give me an overview of it right quick. Are are we getting off the line here? What it is Oh, it's a movie. Movie.
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Yeah. It's a movie. And what it is is, there's this plantation, and the plantation owner was having trouble with the slaves. And he hired this guy that would be the go between between him and the slaves. And, well, jeez, I really can't explain, watching it without giving it away, but you really need to watch it.
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Okay. Because it is. Hey. Just another quick quest yeah. Okay. I got it. I got it. It's in our group text with Julie. Mirka, what what source did more Mirka get that information from that she was, emphasizing earlier? What's the source? Okay.
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Alright. We have two professors. At one time, they got along. They're in a head butting contest. We don't want to mention either one to either one ever. I asked if you understand. Oh,
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I just don't know what you're saying. Okay. So Yeah. But so she she brought it up, and that's why we just wanna know the source. But then you said, there was two judges that were having having a disagreement and No. No. No. Two professors,
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meaning Roger and Mike Gaddy. Do not mention either one to either one of them and probably not their teachings. We a lot of us embrace both of their teachings. They don't like each other's stuff.
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Yeah. Oh, okay. But then that that's, you know, that's the thing that we're gonna have to really kinda get above in the in this so called movement. We have the same problems in our movements as well, where it's too much pity differ petty differences, and we let that become the focus issue. And, you know, we shouldn't let that in. There's gonna be differences.
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Right. Yeah. Somewhere somewhere somebody put a fly in the ointment and, you know, drove a wedge between them because they did a show together on Wednesdays for about a year and a half. Mhmm. And, you know, but, you know, well, Mike Gatti has a pretty interesting background and, you know, then Roger has his background also. Mhmm. You know, but, Mike Mike is on on Tuesdays, this evening. He's got a show. And, if you can get to the chat or if Julie or Larry can look at the chat and give that info to you, you can, you know, hear what he's saying. You're up from the East Coast. I'm on the West.
Mhmm. That comes on at seven in the evening. Wait a minute. No. It comes on at five in the evening over here, so it'd be eight your time until you know, for two hours.
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Is it open discussion or is he he just pretty much an open discussion?
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He's teaching, the first hour, and then it's question and answer. And he talks about before the constitution, the constitution, the revolutionary war, and afterwards. And then he talks about before, the civil war, the civil war, reconstruction.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to get on that.
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And he has, like, copies, certified copies of the actual documents. Oh, okay. You ain't going you ain't going off you said, she said, these are people that were there and attested to it.
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Okay. Yeah. Okay. Julie, put that in the chat too if you can. I'd like to get on that call. I think you put something in there about my dad.
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I'll I'll put it in there in a minute.
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Brent, that's all weather. I'll have a check with you. Drove a witch between them.
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Say again?
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Who was it? Who exactly was it that drove a witch between them? A wedge.
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I've I don't know. Idea who whale.
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He said a witch. Barry White said a witch.
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Hey, Brett. The highway's way off. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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Yeah. We know you. Sorry.
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Like, he's on Tuesdays from eight to ten. Oh, that's tonight. Tuesdays, eight to ten. Yeah.
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Yep. Also, on Thursdays, aft right after Roger's show, you'll see a lot of people disappear if you're, you know, on the app. And we've run over we run over to another FCC channel, and he's on for a couple hours. And then there's an after show for probably an hour or two. You know? Oh, okay. Where we're really talking about some stuff. You know?
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Oh, I'd like to get on that then too.
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Okay. We'll load your plate up.
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Yeah. Julie, send me whatever you have on that too in the after party.
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Hey, Brent. This is Larry.
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Did Brent leave? Yeah. No. You guys hear me? Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. So,
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do you agree with what Mirka said? And, William, what do you what are your thoughts on on that as far as we
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I'll let Brent go first. If no one
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leaks this out past this room and to the person being talked about, yeah, I do agree with her on that one. Usually, I do not agree with her, and we'll leave it at that. And no one's to say anything. Okay? Except for the fact that we know who it came from.
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Right. Well, Larry, to answer your question Larry, now this is William. I I I've gotta look into it a little bit more because I I mean, I don't try to get too bogged down with, you know, a lot of this detailed information is gonna cause division because I want to I wanna look I'm look we're looking for unity, but I I will look into a little bit more. Maybe I can get on Gatti's show because I got the information for his show. Maybe I can get on the show and kinda get let him give me some further clarity. Or if y'all can give me a source where he got it from Tony to ask earlier about the source, if it if it's a book or something where he's getting his information from, I'd like to get the book. Hey, William.
Yeah.
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William, this is David with nationalstatus.com. I I just wanna invite you guys to the website. It's a great resource. We we've compiled much of the information that Roger talked about in an organized fashion.
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And we have
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we actually have coursework under the learning center that you can, learn about this stuff in an organized way. And then in the remedy section, we have the process spelled out and the process that's in there has worked for us, my wife and I, and others that have used it. We haven't had any pushback on that on that stuff. So we should samples of our documents and the whole bit. So feel free to to go there. It's nationalstatus.com or nationalstatus.info. I just wanted to hear that with you guys.
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Okay. But let me hold on. Hold on. Let me type this in because I'm I'm I'm trying Julie, do you have that information, Julie? You can type it in or you want me to just type it in? I already I already typed all this in. Text text the chat. Oh, I'm looking at the chat, but I don't see the with the just the gentleman that just keeps talking. You guys you guys scroll up. I put it, put it way up. Oh, oh, further up. Okay. Let's see. Putting it in again, though. No. No. No. No. If you put it further up, I can go I can look at look for it. Give me the name over again. Yeah. Just I just put it in. Yeah. Just Send it back. Yeah. Just
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just just remember nationalstatus.com. It's very simple.
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Oh, okay. Good. Judy, you had put nationalstatus.info.
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That's that's correct either one. Either one. Oh, either way. Okay.
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Either way. Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll check that out as well. Good luck to you. Mhmm. Somebody was saying something.
[02:30:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Mirka and Brent, I wanted to comment on, the style of using the people. I use when I refer to the people, I state we the whole I state one of the whole peoples, plural, and peoples has a small p and I think it'd be an interesting discussion later on the actual wording of we the people. It's very important how those words are used and that's how I use it. We the whole peoples when I refer to myself as one a national in the state of Idaho, I yield.
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Oh, okay. But Mike Gaddy does expound on this on his in his, on his show. So I'll I'll get on there as well and, see what I can, conclude with. Hey, William.
[02:31:20] Unknown:
Yeah? William. Yeah. When when you go on Michael Gaddy's class, yeah. In the in the when he asked for any for comments or questions, ask him about that we the people.
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Oh, I will. Yeah. That's why I had this noted. Yeah.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
He'll tell you. Okay. Oh, okay. Have a good day.
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Alright.
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Yes. Alvin, so would we. We're gonna take another stab at it here today on Tuesday, April for 08:25. The Radio Ranch is what you've, dialed into, and Roger Sales, your host, here to try and talk about your freedom, see if you want some. We'll see. So so we've got some folks that help us and extend our reach there. Paul Beener, keeper of said platforms, comes out and gives us a little, description of them and gives them proper credit and recognition for their assistance. Do we have Alan back today?
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Yes. We do.
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We have,
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Welcome back, Alan.
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We have a full complement of, streams and platforms. And I was actually on the phone with, Paul English this morning. Yeah. We're we're adding another video platform, and more information on that, coming up later. Nice. We're we're on, radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We have the NET family of broadcast services with us this morning, including one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago for the first hour, home network dot tv, freedom nation dot tv, go live TV, and streamlife.tube. Those, come to us from through WDRN productions, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Nice guys. Nice guys. Great stuff they're doing. Real exciting. And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network, through the Pod Home platform. Yeah. Couple of couple of other things. Our website is, thematrixdocs.com. The matrix d 0 c s Com. And, you can join us live on the show using free conference call, the links for, for that as well as Eurofoc and Global Voice on the matrix docs. You can join us a myriad of different ways, through FCC. Couple of, couple of notes about the, platforms. There is a video platform that is, supported by independent programmers.
It is open source. It is decentralized, and it is called PeerTube, p e e r t u b e. And, what Paul is doing is he's setting up a peer tube instance. And, in that instance, there will be a global voice network channel. There will be a radio ranch channel. There will be music channels, video channels, and, chat live chat integrations and, things like that. All kinds of really fun, interesting things. We're working on finding a domain name to park it on. We've got a couple of couple of possibilities. And, once that goes live, GVTV, as in global voice tv dot net, will also have an instance there.
So Wow. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna be having a lot of fun. Maybe, like, media magnets. Alt media magnets is what we're building here. Well, well, that's what we're doing. I mean, like, the the comparison between PeerTube and YouTube. Okay? YouTube is centralized on Google servers, YouTube servers, and they have editorial control, over everything on the platform. Well, PeerTube is not centralized. It is actually hosted by, one server that actually provides the software. But as soon as somebody accesses the software, it gets downloaded to their computer. And as long as they're using peer tube watching a video or something, they're also acting as a peer or a server for somebody else that's watching the same thing.
So it is completely decentralized and global. And, that'll take us right out of right out from underneath the, the thumb of the vicious bastards.
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The baddies. Mhmm. The baddies. Okay. Well, a little over my head, but that's okay. We'll look forward to you guys working on that new project. We keep bumping right along the morning audience. We're here for your freedom. I don't know if we got any new folks. Probably not. We don't, but we may. You never can tell. And if you are new, pardon me?
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Don't jinx it.
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Well, I mean, I'm I'm trying to be a realist here. You know? There there may be some. I said there may be, but we'll say there may may even be somebody from the Rents broadcast one of these years. Who knows? Anyway, we're here for your freedom. That's what, we spend all this time, and Paul does all this all this technical stuff, talking to people on the other side of the world to hook all this up. It's all for you. I mean, we we we enjoy it. We like doing this. We feel like we're contributing and and, performing our duty. But in the end analysis, it's, for you.
It's your freedom, and we wanna make sure that you know, a, you got a choice there, if you didn't. And, b, should you follow it and and choose to, and it's all your choice. Everything's gotta be voluntary. Big lesson. If you choose to follow that path, we'll, grab your hand should you ask for an assist and help you walk down that where you don't trip in any potholes or anything like that. Hopefully. Hopefully. You're just a watchman on the wall. That's all I am. It's saying you got a choice here. You didn't know you had it. You believe it or not. Some and, you know, I mean, it's and I I do understand it, but some people just can't believe this.
They can't believe they've been living in an illusion all their lives and that these people have done all this stuff and built all this just on a little word trick. And the, the the fact that you call debt money and that you think you're free. And the whole thing hinges on those two pivots, best I can tell. And all you gotta do is goo snap. Snap. Come out of it. Come out of your little spell. You're in a little spell. That's what they call it. And come out of your little spell and and and start doing the things right. Start straightening out those definitions and step back firmly and into reality. And it's nice being in reality.
Okay? Because, man, the whole world's in this illusion, unfortunately. So that's what we do. Hopefully, you're if you're new now, don't be hesitant. If you got questions, preferably, it's somebody that's gone and listened to at least some of our interviews and whatnot, and we don't have from from the start here to educate you. But if we have to do that, we'll do it that way. Okay? But, it's just an upside down world, and everything in our world is based on that concept that they're, they've taken all these key pointers, these words, you know, Rush Limbaugh words mean things. They sure do. In this instance, they mean and determine whether you're free or you're a slave.
And that's your choice, but you gotta understand the technique. Okay? So there's a little bit involved. It's not gonna happen overnight. Generally, most people we have people on here, Michael, who has been around the last few days, our our, Minnesota, I think Minnesota farmer up there. And, Michael's been listening for years. First time came forward here recently talking about taxes. We've had other people like that. So it doesn't happen overnight with most people. You're changing from an illusion to reality. And it's it's not painful, I don't think, necessarily. It's probably hopeful because you see good things at the end in that pot at the end of that rainbow.
But, it's all about you and your freedom, so that's why we're here. If there's any new folks, you do, access us by star six. And here we are. Boy, did I see an interesting clip just before we went on the airs. I'll I'll listen to Harrison this morning, and they they they've got this female, Van I think her name is Vander Leeb. Vander Leebenstein Schmitz or something. You know, Paul? Well, I don't know what her damn name. She's one of these, obviously, she's one of these European nobility. I think some guy that was kind of the head that position has stepped down, and she's got it now. Y'all have seen little clips of her, bitching about, Trump's tariffs.
Well, this morning, I see this clip. Boy, Paul, this is unreal. And she says, well, we are we are controlled by the European values of the Talmud.
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Oh, joy.
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That's what she said. I swear to you. And, I saw her see it. I saw her say it. And that, I I that's funny. I sure thought those were Christian values over there in Europe. But, again, I just guess I've been deceived all these years. And that's a big difference in people. I don't think many some here do, of course, because you've studied it along with myself. But it can't be, lady, because they try and tie the Talmud to the Torah. Okay? The Torah are the scrolls that you see with the bearded old men, and they pull out the two scrolls and they open them up and they got a little little stick with a hand and a finger at the end of it. You've seen that, haven't you, Paul?
The little pointer. And and now they read from right to left, interestingly enough. And, so the Torah is the is the first five books of the Bible. But I don't think the first five books of the Bible were written when Babylon was around, were they? Or Samaria? They weren't written back then. We don't have any biblical verses that go back to Babylon or Samaria, maybe referencing it, but not actually there. And so, that's what they say that the Talmud is a study of the Torah. Well, that's all lies. Okay? The Babylonian Talmud started in actually, they found new, what do they call those things? Hieroglyphs?
Those little stone tablets where they got the little messages in them. Cure Curiform, I think they call that. Curiform. Well, they found some that even predate Samaria. And and, it was like if somebody comes in and puts your eye out, you they owe you 50 pieces of silver or something like like that. So there are even some of those types of laws that they found now in these curiform tablets that predate Babylon by quite a bit. So the Babylonian merchant code was a combination of these from wherever they originated up through the Sumerian, and, then, of course, when Babylon took over, it was perfected in Babylon. And as the book historical jurisprudence starts with, there's a whole book. It's a whole book. We got it downloadable. They're on the site now. Paul went and dug it up and posted it. And, it's a historical jurisprudence. It was written a hundred years ago, published by the out that university in Maryland, Hopkins, Johns Hopkins.
I think it's in Maryland. Regardless, the book starts out Babylon's great contribution of the world to the world was to reduce everything into the society down to the abstract form of contract. And that's where we are. But there's a whole bunch of different kinds of contracts. So I just thought that was kinda startling when she said, European values are based on the Talmud. I I would say, only since the Jews took over. Only since these Revelation two and three niners that just constantly lie like this, like, this lady.
So anyway, man, good morning, Tuesday. I don't know of a whole lot. I was trying to catch up with what all, Harrison was saying this morning, but I had to you know, it's garbage day. I had to get the garbage up and get it out. And and my my dog, Buddy, was outside there wagging his tail, so I had to come in and get him a little treat or two because he's a a cool little canine. And, so here we are. We got anybody with any comments or questions? We've had a good Saturday show on the tax, history of the tax. Kind of surprised we haven't had any more commentary or questions on that, but we haven't.
And then yesterday, of course, John was with us, and he's headed off, probably in this morning over there in Clark County, Nevada. I lost wages, hanging out and having a bunch of fun with Mark and and Brent Bachman. And, I'm envious of you guys getting all those good buffets and stuff. That's the one nice thing about Vegas. I don't gamble, so I like to watch it. I like to watch people gamble, but, but, man, the buffet's out there pretty darn good. So, and John, of course, doesn't cook, so he loves that kind of stuff right there. There's no telling how much weight John's gonna gain while he's in Vegas.
Don't know how long he's gonna be there, but it'll be long enough for him to put on a pound or two at those buffets, Paul. I guarantee you.
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It just depends on how much money he brings with him because those buffets used to be the draw to Vegas. Oh, of course. To be able to get, like, a huge meal for, like, $5,
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whatever. You you can not comment on them. No. I think that's right. Yeah. They could get comped on them too. Did I hear Larry trying to poke through with a comment?
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Good morning, Larry. Yeah. Good morning. Did you hear the latest of regard interest tariffs? Approximately 50 countries capitulated, and they're gonna negotiate and load the tariffs. And I'm hearing that in one day, The United States, almost made a billion dollars in revenue just based on the tariffs. And another another thing, I've I've read is that the state of Mississippi
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has dropped their state income tax. So I believe there's eight state They oh, Larry, you're you're cutting in and out, buddy. You're not in a real good place there. The state of Mississippi has dropped their income tax or state income tax. Was that what I heard you say? Man, Larry dropped off the edge of the cliff. No. Was that what you heard him say, Paul? Did everybody drop off the edge of the cliff, or are we on the air? What what's going on? I heard him say that, and I I know that to be true. I read it. Okay. Well, good. Well, I'm glad we're on the air. Yeah. When it goes dark like that, I just don't know. I don't know if we got cut off somewhere or what. So the state of Mississippi, according to these two esteemed gentlemen, has dropped their state income tax. Well, that's a step in the right direction.
Yeah. And now Larry just rejoined us. Oh, now now they're back here, Paul. Alright. Paul, today I guess I got dropped. Oh,
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well, just I guess I got dropped. I don't know what
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Yeah. No. You dropped. And and that's what I was saying. And somebody confirmed it while you were gone that the state of Mississippi has eliminated their state income tax as of today.
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Right. Well, they voted on it a few days ago, and the governor signed it into law. And I think it's gonna be Probably next year. Completely
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yeah. Within a
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couple of years or whatever, it's gonna be completely zero. They're they're zeroing it out. But, the so there's eight states that don't have a state income tax. Mississippi will be the ninth. And then there's already yeah. There's already nine states that I'm reading about that are working on this year lowering their their state tax by a couple of percentage points. I think one of them was was very negligible. So it wasn't that much. A person might save $33 a year, you know, but they still lowered it. But a lot of a lot of these states are significantly lowering their state income tax. There's nine of them all. And, I don't know if you heard about the Trump carrier. Did you hear that part?
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Well, I don't know, Larry. We you keep you're very garbled, and you're cutting in and out. Can we get can we get you in a better place? Because we wanna hear what you gotta say. I mean, at least you got a a a regular phone I guess, that is. Still route.
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Yeah. Okay. How do I sound?
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Well, you sound a little bit better now. Let's see if we can get that last part you said it out
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where it's, under Well, I I my my initial comment was, that there is, 50 countries that capitulated to Trump's tariffs. Knew that. They're gonna deviate. That. Yeah. And in one day, the, The United States made almost a billion dollars in revenue just based on the tariffs alone. Right. We got that. So And it's a risk. Very interesting time, Brooke, and and light up all of these things.
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It makes all the system economists look like idiots, doesn't it? Even mister Susskind, I'm sorry to say, who was adamantly against that and running Trump down and say he doesn't know what he's doing and all that kind of stuff. And I think it's gonna probably end up as egg on his face down the line because I think he's wrong, the esteemed Columbia professor of economics. Thank you, Larry.
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What is he doing? I think one of those one of those countries was Argentina that's capitulating.
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Well, hell, man. Argentina bend over at the at the drop of a hat. They're in such bad shape. They got no good position. I feel so sorry for those people. They've been abused for so long. Did you hear the other day, Milou came out and said that Hitler died in Argentina and he had a couple of children? I bet that didn't get much news, did it? Didn't get much, Carrie. Well, evidently, that happened the other day. So, that's been rumored for a long time even when I was down there. I never did get down to Bariloche where is where it is rumored that he lived out his life, and I've seen a picture of the place that he supposedly lived in that's now for sale.
And, man, it is nice. Really nice. Bariloche down there in Southern Argentina is extremely nice. It's called this, you know, the Switzerland of South America and, a lot of German, a lot of Swiss, and all that kind of stuff because there's some ski resorts down there. And, up in the mountains, nestled up in the Andes, and they supposedly and I never got down there, unfortunately. A very, very lovely, place to go. I know I heard a guy telling a story that was down there, and they were in some bar. You know? They're in town. I don't remember if they were skiing or not. But at at the end of the night, the bar closed, and there were still a bunch of people in there, and they broke out singing German songs.
So that influence is definitely down there, and I can tell you a story that happened to me down there. It's pretty interesting. My, girl I was seeing at the time. If you ever wanna see an Argentinian freeze, you say the word vacationes. Because when they hear the word vacationes, everything else goes distorted. K? Because they want that vacation. Alright? And so, of course, their seasons are opposite of ours. And, this, girl I was seeing wanted us to go over, and she wanted to take me over to this place called the Hills Of Cordoba. It's really nice. It's down below Cordoba. Cordoba is the one of the larger cities in Argentina.
Don't have too many. And, heavily German influence and evidently one of the a very wealthy company that helped support Hitler was from Cordova and, had some Nazi influence and stuff down there, some German influence. So, anyway, it's like a we got a couple of couple of our listeners here live in Virginia. They're in the Shenandoah Valley. Well, the Hills Of Cordoba are an awful lot like the Shenandoah Valley. I've never been to the Shenandoah Valley. I've seen pictures of it, obviously. But, that's what I likened it to here, in the hills of Cordoba.
So we drove over there about an eight hour drive and and, lovely on the, eastern part of the valley, there's three, cities right in a row. One of them is called I just remember the name of one of them. It's called the General, Viva Via, V I L L A, Village, Via General Belgrano. And so, the there's a city above it, a little city below it. That's where the only nuclear facility in Argentina is on a lake over there right by General, Belgrano. And so that we went up and it's very Bavarian. It's like being in Germany or Switzerland, all that architecture and all that kind of stuff. And so it's a big vacation spot for people from Buenos Aires because Buenos Aires gets so insufferably hot during the summer, and they'll poke out and go, either up where we were was a big, tourist destination too because they have the little Grand Canyon of South America there.
Very nice spot. And, then below Cordoba, they've got this, Hills Cordoba thing with these there's three cities on the, if you're looking at a map, they'd be on the right side of the valley, and then there's one city over on the left side. And it's a pretty wide valley. And, so we were looking for a place to eat lunch, and it was kinda towards the end of the lunch hour, and we found a interesting looking log cabin restaurant there. And, so we went in. The place was full. Obviously, the food was good, and the only place we could sit was on the, back, little little, back porch. Had some tables out there, and you had to walk through the bar to get back there. So we did that. And as I was walking through the bar, I noticed a great big picture of the graph spray. Now I wonder if, any of you Paul, do you know about the graph spray? I probably talked about it on here before, and then you probably heard that. Were you aware of it before that? Is Paul off? He's off doing something.
Chasing that cat. Okay. Graph spray. Graph spray. Well, the graph spray, if any of you remember when we were kids, there was a movie where you got to sync the Bismarck, and they all ganged up on the mighty Bismarck, the destroyer, I guess, the German destroyer. Well, the Graf Spray was the sister ship to the Bismarck, and it patrolled the South Atlantic. And, they ganged up on it down there. It was really efficient on on, harassing trade and whatnot. And they sent several, different British ships and maybe an American ship. There's three of them that ganged up on it. They got a strategic hit on the rudder, and they couldn't fix it. So the only thing they could do is hightail it into base, which was Monte De Veo, Uruguay.
They parked outside of the beautiful natural harbor there. Boy, it's lovely. Okay? This big beautiful natural harbor, which used to be Argentina, until they revolted and took it over. And they put the, the the graph spray outside. They didn't even take it into the harbor. They left it outside. It's a pretty large vessel. And, they scuttled it. Well, the captain went down with the ship, but they let all the sailors and stuff off. And, well, here they are stuck in South America. It's in the middle of World War two. They got nowhere to go but stay there.
Probably, I don't think they wanted to go back to back to the theater too much. So, anyway, all of those crewmen of the Graff Spray, they let them off, and, they migrated down into Argentina, and they founded these towns. So these three towns that I'm talking about with Giaville, via General Belgrano in the middle, They're all these ex German sailors from the Graf Speyer. They're, you know, a. And so I'm, we eat dinner, and we're coming back walk through the bar. And, I was my my my my lady friend was, she didn't know anything about it. She'd never heard about it before. And so I was sitting there explaining the history and showing her that picture. And out of nowhere comes this big six foot five blonde deared blue eyed guy, and he saw what I was doing. And he came and grabbed my hand, and I didn't think he was ever gonna stop shaking it. Okay? And it's just one of those experiences, this backlash from all this World War two history right there in the Hills Of Cordoba. Now on the other side of that valley is this city. It's not a city. It's it's a day a daytime vacation spot, and they've got a well, let's see. I don't know I don't know how to describe it. A hamlet maybe built into the side of the mountain as it goes up on the other side of the Hills Of Cordoba. And, there's a lot of people there every day. I mean, 10,000 plus vehicles.
But at night, they don't have any because they're they don't let anybody drive. It's all a walking town. And you walk up through these falls and around these lakes, and they have little coffee shops and little restaurants and little they just it's a really cool place, and it's called La Compressita. And you go look it up on on Wikipedia, La Compressita, C U M B R E S I T A, something like that. It'll probably correct you on the spelling, but what a lovely place. It was built about started about a hundred years ago by some Germans, and they built the whole thing in that Bavarian style, of course. And it's a whole walking little village, and it's really cool. Bunch of artisans and kinda like that. It's got a few hotel rooms, so people do stay there that don't live there. But, what a cool place. That's a neat part of the world right there, South Of Cordoba in the hills of Cordoba in Argentina. And the Graff spray got me thinking about that and why I told you the story. But, anyway, it was a cool moment. I'll never forget it. And, I enjoyed part of the enjoyment of my time in Argentina.
We don't happen to have any new people around today with questions, do we, by any chance? No. Did William and Tony come back or they PO'd at us and went off? Whatever. Larry, did you ever get a hold of, William?
[00:30:11] Unknown:
Larry's not gonna answer me. He's off taking a customer. Yes. Well Yes. I talked with Roger. They're Oh. No. They're not upset. They, they're just listening. Okay. Behind. Alright. We'll do that. The time to see. They're listening. Alright. And, I think you I think you misunderstood them. They're they were, trying to explain that they're they're they don't believe that the paperwork won't work. It's just you have to know the information. I think you guys were on the same page. Okay. You it it's not just filing a piece of paper, and I think they were trying to explain that to you.
[00:30:44] Unknown:
But you kinda took it the wrong way. So Well, I might have, but we don't do that. We do specifics here as you know, and and for a specific reason. And, man, they recognize it. Okay? And why? Because it's written into their laws. I mean, don't forget this other status, this national status, this is so, elusive. It's elusive that status to find in there and search down and understand, but it's right there in their law books. So you say a piece of paper. Well, yeah, but it's right there. It is the basis of their entire thing they built here. So you gotta realize it's not just like people would do throwing something in the court, going into court, going, I'm sovereign.
Well, that's all fine and good. Okay? But that won't cut it. You could file it in the property records office like John and Glenn, erroneously, instructed us to do not knowing about the secretary of state. Well, that's real good. It's in your local county, but until you can prove this is that site from Copper Moonshine still that I mentioned to to Michael yesterday. What a what a wonderful citation from I looked it looked like an appellate level case. Unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, IRS can move on to assessment collection, whatever it said. Important part, unless they can prove. Well, how do you prove it? Well, nobody's ever known how to prove it until we came along and understood this.
So, yes, I can understand why people think that that is true. We've had other people. Hey. Look. Tony's not the first one to ever say that. Okay? But, it it always goes down the line that when you find out really what you're dealing with here, nobody else has been able to prove they're not a citizen of The United States. Well, why not? Well, they didn't know where to go. They didn't know where to do it. And why not? Because they didn't know it was a feudal system. When you know it's a feudal system and you get a letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida telling you that now I can't send you a letter saying you're a Florida state citizen because the, secretary of state has exclusive jurisdiction on all, a l l. There's that word again. All matters concerning citizenship.
So unless you do it through him, it doesn't matter what you've done. They can come kick your door in. But the amazing thing is now once you've done this, and we've got a proper this isn't just sending in one piece of paper one time. We've got a whole regimen of process here that has been, found, discovered. That's a good word. It's been discovered as we've gone forward in this process over the years, mainly from people's mistakes. So I'll give you an example. Before we, knew all this, Kaye, long time listener, Kaye and her husband, Paul, now in Connecticut, she is just hell bent for leather to get everything done correctly. And this is right at the start of COVID. Okay?
And so we say, well, alright. Well, you need to send it to your state there to the Secretary of State because we didn't know any better back then. And, so she kept sending it to the secretary of state, and they'd write back going, do you wanna open a business? We don't have you in our records. Do you owe us some fees? We'd love to get some fees out of you. So it's that kind of a dialogue and, you know, no. I've got this thing here. Oh, no. What about your business and your fees? So, obviously, the secretary of state is in charge of setting up and maintaining businesses in the state. Now I remember if you go wanting to get a, some sort of incorporation or something, you always go to the secretary of state. So that's the position that they have fulfilled since the change.
And so, that's where we came back. We come back with that and say, well, alright, Kaye. Obviously, you they're not the right people. Poor people. She was gonna file it at the property records, Sue. They had everything shut down by COVID and the property so you had to do everything through email and the phone, and they weren't about to let her file that in the property records. So if any of you ever wanna do that, by the way, and they give you grief, the way you come back at them is you go, well, you let the IRS file notices of liens here, don't you? Well, that's where they file them. So why would they file them in the property records office?
Because it's on you. I mean, you go look. If you ever been to one of those places, property records office, and you, go look at it. It's not a lien. It's a notice of lien, like a certificate of title for your car, a notice of lien. Well, is the notice of lien a lien? Well, I don't think so. I think it's a notice just like they're telling you. K. So why do they file it at the property records office? Because the lien's on you, and that's you're you're the property. So you don't believe me? Okay. Alright. Go look. I can answer that. Easily
[00:36:12] Unknown:
yes? I can answer that. They file a notice of lien in the public at the property records office, and if it's not rebutted, then they convert it to a lien because you agreed to it. Well, I don't know that that's correct. I think the lien is a statute staple that's in the base basement of the treasury department somewhere,
[00:36:32] Unknown:
and that they're just alerting you locally that that is theirs. Because, like, for for things like you know how you know why insurance people are always in the patriot movement? Just like John Casara. K? There's a lot of insurance people in the patriot movement. Do you know why, Paul?
[00:36:54] Unknown:
Hit me.
[00:36:56] Unknown:
Well, insurance agents have these things called residuals. So you get paid over and over and over again as the contract renews down the line. And so, of course, the insurance companies are tied to the hip with the central banks. And so if you wanna go get a contract to represent some insurance company and they run a, a check on you, and this is one of the places they look, One probably one of the first places they look is IRS. And so now they cut off your residuals and some of those to some of those folks, is huge.
Okay? And so, that's why you got so many insurance people, in, the patriot movement traditionally as they're getting those residuals cut off. So, now I don't I forgot where I was, Paul. Anyway, if you go get one of those things, a copy of one of those things, a notice, Elaine, it's gonna have three pieces of information on it. It's gonna have your your name in all caps, always, I guess. Is gonna have the address where you live, and then it's gonna have the amount that they say you owe. Right? Well, the lien can't be on the amount you owe. And the question is, what about the tens of millions of people that have been issued one of these things that live in a rental house? Because, see, you think the property is the house. Right?
No. No. No. No. No. Contraire mindfreer. If it's a rental house, which many people live in rental apartments or houses, then the only thing left is you. And just like we covered on Saturday with the statute staple from the statute de Mercatoribus, if there's a dispute in that city, the mayor of the town becomes the mayor of the staple. He puts a statute staple, a lien on the guy that owes the debt, and he becomes property. And anything that comes into his hands is taken, whether it's from rents, profits, sale of land, inheritance, makes no difference because he's the property.
And anything that comes in his hands is seizeable to satisfy the debt and is seized to give to the creditor. And when that's done, the lien is lifted. So, ma'am, you allow IRS to file notices of liens here, don't you? Well, why can't that's property. You could even go so far as to show that and explain that to them. Go, what? Then I wanna file my freedom paper here from said slavers. Well, that'd be fine and good. You could get it certified by the clerk of the court. That just means you pay an extra 5 or $10, and the clerk of the court will come down and he'll stamp it and sign it. And all that means is the clerk of the court saw that your document that you say here is represented as filed in those property records office. So you can even have that kind of a finality to it. Nope. Doesn't matter. It's gotta be sent to the secretary of state. And if you don't do that, you're not out of the system.
Period. So, yes, there probably have been a lot of people that got their doors kicked down, and they may have even filed paperwork, but they didn't know what they were doing. They didn't know it was the feudal system, and they didn't know that the lord of the manor in charge of all things servile, if you will, is the lord of the manor of the secretary of state. Now the question then presents itself. Well, how did he get all that power? Because since the founding of the country, back when a passport just used to be a letter, they give the opium runners. They give them this passport letter. But since the first of the countries, the secretary of state has been the one that was assigned issuing passports in whatever configuration.
And why is that? Well, he's the secretary of state. I could this is what I couldn't figure out for a while. He was the secretary of state. He deals his responsibility is dealing with all the other countries in the world. And a passport by Vatel's Law of Nations is a document issued by said secretary of state that shows you and represents you and who you are. That means your legal personality represents who you are to foreign countries. Well, if he's gonna represent who you are, including your legal personality, then he's got to be the one you've got to switch these statuses with, doesn't he? Yeah. And not only is he the one, he'd be the only one because it's the feudal system.
So now what they've done is run this whole scheme through the secretary of state's office because of the fact that he issues these passports, and they've got all these presumptions built into it. Where unless you specifically tell them you're not that serf over there in the corner, well, then they're gonna put it under presumption that you are. And they ask you these little, like, in the first passport, 11. It says in there that there's some things in that 11 that aren't in the renewals. Okay? And one of them is they ask you, were your parents, citizens of The United States? Well, unless they knew all this stuff and file something with the secretary, well, they were.
There's the presumption. We're gonna lay it out here. We're gonna hide the out where you don't understand it. Even if you do happen to read it, you ain't no way you're gonna extrapolate what's going on by reading the warning box and the oath. So you're not gonna include anything because you don't understand that. So the presumption is, well, his parents were citizens of The United States. It's the feudal system. That means he was a citizen or she was a citizen of The United States at birth. Every time we ask them, they've agreed with it. Well, hell, what do you expect us to think? Duh.
So there it is. The whole thing's run through the Secretary of State because he's the guy that issues passports, and the passports are the one that identify you to foreign nations. And you're correct. Boom boom. Legal personality from when you get your rights into, you owe your duties. And if you don't tell them different, you're in servitude, buddy. And ma'am, yeah, that's the way it works. Pretty slick. These people are very slick. And if you hadn't learned that yet, keep studying. You will. Flippery devils. Alright. They're slimy. They're just slimy bastards.
Yes, ma'am. Is that Nancy?
[00:43:50] Unknown:
It's Rochelle, Idaho.
[00:43:52] Unknown:
Oh, hello, Rochelle. Hi.
[00:43:55] Unknown:
I an interesting little in comment I've read in a book. I'm sorry. I can't remember what book. But when the, captains of the ships were, entering the islands in the Caribbean and they would visit whoever the king or the magistrate of any other country, that captain would, drop the plank and he would walk onto the over the high water mark. He would bring a letter of recommendation from his country.
[00:44:30] Unknown:
Basically a passport.
[00:44:32] Unknown:
Yes. And it would include his status standing and character like you have to verify who he is. Other people on the boat would have to do their trading below the high water mark, which is lower court.
[00:44:47] Unknown:
It's kind of interesting. So I yield Could be. Could be. Could be. I don't I haven't heard that specific in, history, but I do know that they used to issue letters, to, people instead of d r c?
[00:45:14] Unknown:
Your maybe?
[00:45:16] Unknown:
It's I was pretty close. What is it, Paul?
[00:45:19] Unknown:
You're Tatiqui,
[00:45:21] Unknown:
v d r c. I don't have a Tatiqui. I beg your pardon? Yeah. We got a site on there. I've I've have to thank a listener. Listener years ago sent me this. I'd never found it. Whatever that first word is, v d r c, you can find it on the website. Where is that? The downloadable stuff or something? It's in the download section. It's in the download section, and it's a weird style. You know, they call the they they they use the word style, for the heading of a case, Smith versus Jones. Well, that's called the style of the case. K? So it's got to be Wait a minute.
[00:46:02] Unknown:
I think, it might actually be in two places on the website. Let me see. It might be in the download section and the exhibits
[00:46:11] Unknown:
section. It's a pretty important site for sure, and it bears right down on what we're talking about here. And it says, we got this well, would you think I'd be incorrect? Say the guy might have been African?
[00:46:22] Unknown:
No. It's only in the exhibit section. I believe it's exhibit, nine,
[00:46:31] Unknown:
is it? Okay. Well, it's on the site somewhere. And, a listener alerted me to this. It was 1835. We went back and checked it. In fact, if you go look at the site, I believe the site is Wheat. Wheat or Peters, 1 of the two. Do you know about those sites, Wheat and Peters, Paul? No. In in the early part of the country, we didn't have a clerk of the court. I mean, these guys were kind of the clerk of the court. We didn't have all of the decisions registered in a book. And so what they did, they were named Wheaton Peters. And for those years in the early part of the country, they combined all the cases. So the volumes got their name.
And I don't remember whether whatever it is, but DRC. I'll call it DRC. I'll get around that. So DRC, was in 1835, and it says a passport is a document issued by the under the Wealth of Nations, Laws of Nations, Vatel here's Vatel coming in again, issued under the law of nations, which represents a person to foreign countries. It is an ex parte document, which means it's a separate part. And if it is, however, the question is of citizenship, it doesn't have anything to do with the passport. It has to do everything has to do with what papers are in the possession of the secretary if remember, this is before the fourteenth amendment.
If admissible in a court of law are to be considered the higher and better fact. Now one of our guys was, maybe an Abram. I don't remember who it was. Somebody was dealing with one of these local yahoos, and he shows them that get this, Paul. The Yahoo attorney goes, you're mis you're misinterpreting that. Really? Part part. Pardon me? I'm what? How how on earth? No. No. No. Well, this is the way you flick away the commoners. Oh, oh, you're misinterpreting that. Only a lawyer knows what that says.
[00:48:52] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Right. Hockey. Or is hockey.
[00:48:55] Unknown:
Piece of garbage. Okay? Don't fool. Stand corrected. As I don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. Okay? Well, you stand corrected?
[00:49:03] Unknown:
I stand corrected. The Google Scholar link page for your versus DRC is exhibit 11.
[00:49:14] Unknown:
So it's hard. Okay. Well and that's something I advise any of you if you're writing your own letters and corresponding with these creeps. Use that. That's almost 200 year old findings, and it's never been overturned. K? Why? Because it's true. Alright? So there you go. It's whatever is in the possession of the secretary. So we wanna make sure it's in his possession because we instruct you. Here's what William and Tony don't probably I don't know if maybe Larry's told them this. But our our process, we got a process too. It's not just throwing paper around. It's a specific process that has been gleaned over some excuse me. My stomach is wanting to argue.
It has been gleaned over some time. So the first thing we do just different mainly, I guess, for William and Tony if they're listening, just to let you know, if Larry hadn't told you this. We, of course, send a single sheet, just your affidavit with a very short cover letter directly to the secretary of state first. That's relatively new. It started in the last couple of years because of an instance that came up. And I hate to go into the whole long story again, but it came up out of a guy of California who thought he was, migrated. He was a Brit, migrated over here in February, got a passport, got naturalized, all that, heard our message, and said, well, I'm gonna throw an affidavit in and get with my passport because I didn't do that. I didn't know to do that the last time.
So that's what he did. And when they got it, unbeknownst to him, he had been pulled over in San Jose County in California for suspicion of drunk driving. He wouldn't get out of the car. The cops finally broke the windows and dragged him out and took him to jail. And then somehow he got out, and because he was a Brit, not understanding our system, thought that he the charges were dropped. Well, so he went ahead and down the line, he applies for passport with the affidavit. Well, when they get the affidavit, they run a check, of course, NCIC, and they pick up the two drunk driving charges, which he thought were gone.
Well, they went in and used two sections of the CFR, 27 CFR. He sent me their letter, 27 CFR to not only reject his application and keep his funds, by the way, hundred and $40 or something. But they also he had an open passport, the original one he got, and they revoked it because under those two drunk driving charges, he was a flight risk. So they've not only rejected his application and kept his money, they they went in and canceled his open passport. Well, he's going, what the hell is happening? I'm going, I've never had this happen before. Send me something they've sent you. So that's how we found out the story. And, my thinking here was to go back to the drawing board and go do a little bit of logic here. Well, they found these violations.
He did not have the affidavit in because we didn't tell him to do that. And, so when they saw and checked that his background, they rejected the application and kept his money, and and they had every right to because he still had those two open charges. And so my thinking was, if he if he had filed the single affidavit, we call it a naked affidavit, with a cover letter short, to the secretary of state and maybe waited twenty days, then that would have filtered through. And when it came time that they got this application and they went to check it, he would have an affidavit on file, and they couldn't use those, sir, CFR sections to reject his, code of federal regulations to reject his application. If he had an affidavit on file, those wouldn't apply because they wouldn't apply to him. And even if they didn't recognize that, he'd still have a point where he could go in on administrative appeal and and see if he could get his, either his passport or his funds back.
So it was that incident that made us rethink all of this. We gotta get off Chicago. No. We got a couple of minutes. So it was that incident and this I'm using this as an example for people to show you how we alter our process and the things that cause it to be altered. Okay. That's one of them. And so we went back and said, no. I doubt if all of you have drunk driving charges in your background or any of this stuff. But if you do or you're a person with some of that baggage, we suggest you just send the blank affidavit to the secretary of state, wait about twenty days. That gives them time to filter it through whatever administrative system they've got up there. And then should your passport application come in and you've got that baggage that they discover, they can't go in necessarily and arbitrarily, just revoke and reject.
Okay? And and should they, at least you've got, hey. I submitted this 20 ago. Those regulations don't apply to me. What's the next step in my administrative appeal? K? So the the point I'm trying to make is there's a method to the madness here, and I don't just pull this stuff out of my sphincter muscle and just say, hey. Do this. Okay? It's all been there's been some modifications within with input that caused us to rethink some of these certain situations, and we've changed our process. So once you do that let's see here, Paul. Okay. We're pretty close. Once you do that, then we've got a whole another way to go back and weaponize your position with the state and your local officials. But I'd launch off into that, but we're about to say goodbye to some of our friends here that depart from us in the first hour.
And, I'm kinda in limbo here for a minute. So what I'm gonna do is Paul, you wanna go ahead? Okay. Well, when you tell them goodbye and pot down the music or something, and I'll jump back in. Or you wanna tap dance, or does somebody have a question up to this point?
[00:55:51] Unknown:
I know. We probably don't have time for a question, so let's just, Well, I can hold. Mute the whistler and Okay. Thank you for calling us. One zero six point nine w b o u f m Chicago and radiosoapbox.com. Please do join us into the second hour and continue listening to this interesting topic, by going to the matrixstocks.com, the matrixstocks.com. And, you can even join us live on the show if you want. So head on over, pack a lunch, stay the day.
[00:56:24] Unknown:
We'd love to meet you. Thanks. Okay. Bye. See you tomorrow. Maybe. So, anyway, now that we've taken care of, that's the federal level. Now if I don't know if you've got of course, most everybody wants to send it into the SOS and then come back and notify IRS. That's about the two most important things at the federal level. But there are more than that. There's over I don't I've I've heard that there's over 600 agencies up there. Somebody said the other day there's 300 and something. I don't know how many of the damn things. They pop up like mushrooms in a cow pasture after a rain.
But, anyway, that's the deep state is all these agencies. So you may have some problems with well, you know, maybe you want to build a pond in your backyard. And, all your neighbors saw you doing, and he sick the EPA on you because they got all these really strict regulations on water and its control and what you can do and what you can't and all that garbage. Well, when you file this, those don't apply to you anymore. So if you had that particular altercation with the e with the EPA, I would suggest you take a copy of the affidavit, do a cover letter, and you send it to the national head of the agency. And you cc at the bottom the, the, regional director. Most of them have a regional director, and they've got a district director.
So and even if you're already in in, in a battle with the agent, Well, then you go back, copy him too. So you copy the head guy, the regional guy, the district guy, and the local guy if you got his name. And you put them on notice that this has been filed, and guess what? All their objections to you building your pond in your background, your backyard, well, they all go away magically. K? So this is federal stuff, and you could do that with any of those agencies up there. But now what has really happened is you file this and you've turned yourself into a state citizen, now called a national.
And so now to fulfill what's called due process, I mean, I don't really I'm Mario, Super Mario, Rubio is, he's pretty busy guy. Trump's got him running all over the damn globe with all these wars and stuff. Now all these tariff problems. And so, he doesn't have time to notify your state and all the officials and, and they well, I'd like to think they know the ramifications of this. You can't always assume that, but regardless, known or should have known. And so, they're not gonna have time to go do that, especially you go down to your local sheriff and stuff. And so that burden falls on you. So you've already relieved yourself from the federal obligation of status of civil rights under the fourteenth amendment, and now you're gonna move over to god given rights under the state.
And so this is your your bailiwick. It's up to you. It's your freedom. You're supposed to notify them because notice is the front part of due process. Very important concept that underlies all of our laws, due process. I mean, I guess even in Admiralty, they got due process, don't they? Paul, you gotta pull down the the country's flag and throw up the Jolly Roger. Right? That's a process. Oh, yeah. I guess. Okay. So now you've gotta go back and what we found out through experiences like Kaye of going to the secretary of state there in Connecticut and then call, well, do you owe us a fee, or do you wanna open a business? What the hell do you want? So we figured out that wasn't their Ballywick.
And so then you come back and you step back and got logically approaching this and go, alright. Well, here's a tough question for you. Who's the head of law official in the state? Well, I guess that's gotta be the attorney general, doesn't it? Everything is auspices under them, and they're all under the laws of agency. The the of course, Connecticut is not a good example because they don't have sheriffs, but all the other states do, I believe. So, you need to go in and notify the top law official in the state being the attorney general, and all you're gonna do is put him on notice.
Lawful legal notice. Due process. I'm giving you this. It's been filed with the secretary of state. You're the attorney general. You're ahead of laws in the state. Then you know what this is about or you should know. Right? I mean, somebody's sending them change of status. It changes their whole role. They don't know all this. We have to educate them, I guess. But here's the reason for that. For for, like, William and Tony, if you're listening. Because when you were a federal citizen, this jurisdictional thing, Big word, jurisdiction.
Big concept. What gives that guy with that agency over yonder the power to make man made laws called regulations, He's unelected and take these manmade by an unelected bureaucrat little laws, what they call them, and not only shape them for me, but apply them to me and enforce them on me. What gives him that power? That's the question, isn't it? Yes, it is. Okay. And so you go back, you know, where did that come from? Where's the concept come from? What comes from? I know, I know you'll be surprised. It comes from the feudal era. And if you've ever seen those old movies where, the guy is talking to the boss there, and he takes his fist and pops his his left, his left breast there, and he goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege.
Well, that's the relationship. It's from feudalism. And it's the relationship between a liege, l l e I g e man, and his liege, l l e I g e lord. And, yes, remember, Trump I mean, Rents picked up on this real quick. Did you you remember that, Paul, when I was going over this, that first show, and he goes, oh, yeah. That's that's allegiance. Yeah. That's, you know, rinse pretty sharp. Okay. So he picked that up right after the mention that the liege is the root word of allegiance. And the relationship between this liege man and his liege lord is jurisdiction. And that relationship has a definition.
And it says protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. Protection for allegiance. If you're gonna give me your allegiance there, I'm gonna give you the protection of the manor and the other serfs, and we're gonna fight off all the baddies. Okay? So and I'm gonna give you protection, you're gonna give me allegiance. And either one of those words, when they're brought into a legal context, automatically invokes the other. No questions asked. I e, in, title eight where it describes defines a national from the nationality act of 1940. First definition, definition a, a nationalist total allegiance to a small estate.
Well, if you didn't know what I just told you, you'd read right over that and not know what the hell it was saying. That's why I say you gotta go. Yeah. And have you ever been taught anywhere in your patriot, teachings up to now about jurisdiction, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance, where it came from, how it attaches, and how it's automatically invoked when one of the two is invoked, like in that statute, well, then the smallest state owes us total protection. We owe them total allegiance. They owe us total protection. It's a reciprocal agreement. It's not a choice. It's a duty and an obligation from the people in your state that you're now a citizen of that you've switched your allegiance.
You've switched it from the federal government in the fourteenth amendment over to the state government. But they don't know all this stuff. I'd be shocked if maybe Kim Paxton might know it. But I'd be shocked, honestly, if even he did. Okay? So when you go in now and what you're gonna do is you're gonna weaponize your position. You're gonna weaponize your position where you live in your state that you're now a citizen of and that they've got obligated to have protection over you, not prosecution. They're not supposed to go out and let the federally influenced traffic laws get you pulled over on the side of the road with an $80 ticket. That's not protection.
That's prosecution. So they've got exactly the opposite responsibility of that. They're supposed to protect you from that, and it's not a choice they make. It's a duty and an obligation. When you choose to be a state citizen, they have to give you protection. Now these are our teeth here. Roger. Okay. And this is why this stuff works. Alright. This is why filing papers work. Yes, ma'am.
[01:05:52] Unknown:
The reason I mean, behind it, getting off of the federal protection is they have broken the public trust with the fourteenth Amendment, even if their intentions had possibly been to protect those who were unable to take care of themselves.
[01:06:12] Unknown:
In any way, by extortion of taxes, they've broken all the public trust, and it's a great Well, when it was when it was originally passed, the protection was for the new black federal citizens, which the majority of them were. And they didn't want the states coming in, particularly the Southern states, with all that animus in the background coming in and trouncing on their new citizens. Well, that was it. You gave them allegiance because they gave you protection whether you needed it or not. Okay. Bunch. Correct. Yes, Paul. Well, they're not protecting us anymore, obviously. Well, they're not if you don't want them to. Otherwise, they're gonna give you they're gonna give you a bunch of protection. IRS, traffic tickets, taxes, all kind protection. Yes, Paul?
[01:07:00] Unknown:
Yeah. The federal government under the fourteenth amendment, committed treason against the constitution. The state governments that have signed on to that and became state of such and such, they committed treason against their own sovereign state. New York state is not the same as state of New York. The state of New York is guilty of treason against not only the constitution of The United States, but also the sovereign state of New York
[01:07:38] Unknown:
as in New York. Disagree with you because they came along under a bankruptcy. It's not treason. It's not unconstitutional. It was fraud. But they came in under the auspices of, hey. The country's bankrupt. We control all of you. And evidently, they brought all the governors in and told them that. So it's not necessarily it was treason on those guys' part, but the poor state governors, they probably didn't know any different. Okay? So, it's I believe Bob is really right here when he told us years ago, it's not unconstitutional.
It's extra constitutional. Because every court case that's been filed since '33 when they changed the system has adhered to this system for the most part. So the courts agree with that. It's it's extra constitutional.
[01:08:32] Unknown:
Because it's outside the constitution.
[01:08:35] Unknown:
It's merchant law. No. No. I'm sorry. The fourteenth amendment's in the constitution, Paul. It's not outside. It's in the document. So think about it. Anyway, what we're doing is we're coming back under this auspices. Man, you know, I keep telling you this is a process. This only hit me about a year and a half ago maybe. I'm sitting here one day on the show with you good folks, and it hits me that, hold it. This is our teeth, and we're not even applying it. You don't oh, we don't we don't have a file for that. I'm gonna shove it over to my campaign committee. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Sorry there, Ohio.
You need to start something for it because this is your duty. It's your obligation because you owe me protection, and I wanna be separated from all those other serfs out there because I'm different. K? So now what you do is you go to him, the AG, as the highest law official in the state, and then you come back at the bottom. And for your new folks, if, like, say, William and Tony decide to do this, we're gonna probably change it again because of circumstances a little bit. And when you send that original naked affidavit to the secretary of state, I would like for you to also copy Kash Patel, Bondi, and mister Trump at the bottom and send it to all them. K?
They need to they need to be exposed to this stuff. I know they got big things on their desk, and they got big deals they're working on, but they need to know about this. And we keep copying people that wanna change, their status to them, and maybe it'll get through to them. Who knows? Anyway, the protection that we are afforded is from the state. So we go to the attorney general, and I would like for, Mark and and myself to sit down and draft a cover letter for that thing for you and give you a copyable document that goes over a little of this background on protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection because you've got to alert them here as to what their responsibility is. And there's a real important reason for this I'm gonna get to in a second.
So now you go into your local area and you get if you got a sheriff, if you're not in Connecticut, if you got a sheriff, you got a chief of police, you got a district attorney. I don't think we're gonna have to worry about the local public health official anymore. There's no way in hell this shot's getting ever lined up again. And so you simply send them a a a a the copy of the affidavit with a cover letter. This is now on file with the secretary of state. If you, depending on if you've already gotten your passport, you could put a passport USAA passport has been issued, passport number, whatever whatever signifying that because now when you include that affidavit in that passport application and they process it, buddy, it's in the system right then. K? It's there.
All of our people get real antsy about being in there. And every time we've ever checked with a privacy request, or with direct contact with the passport office, they say, yep, here it is. One of them even pulled up our affidavit and went, wow. This is really good. We don't have any problem filing these. It says, well, I don't guess they'll be getting too many of the 31 page David Strait documents anymore since mister Strait has left the planet. But anyway and you put those people on notice and you do this same cc thing, carbon copy. So you send a copy to the attorney general, but on the bottom of the page, these other people are enumerated out, and they receive the exact same thing that you're sending to the secretary of state.
I mean, excuse me, to the attorney general in your state. And so now everybody has been covered. You've covered your ass. They've been served in the first part of due process. It says right at the top of the letters, lawful legal notice. Depending on who we're sending it to, there's other verbiage that we put up there. For instance, on this letter to the state AG, we would because they're all attached through the agencies. In other words, the attorney general of Florida handles and oversees all the sheriffs, all the chiefs of police, and all that. So they're all under the laws of agency. They're agents of the attorney general.
So now because you've put them on notice and notice and the right to be heard, well, occasionally, our folks will get something back from the attorney general, but most of the time, they don't. The California even the California attorney general said, well, we recognize our private citizens. Well, that's national. Private citizens, not public citizens. And so, you go through all that, and here's the beauty of it. Let's say that your chief of police or your sheriff pulls you over. They've been put on notice of this. They should be offering you protection, not prosecution, and they erroneously write you a ticket.
If they've been put on notice, and they take that ticket back and they get turn it in, it goes through the system, and the, the prosecutor dockets the ticket and you're in traffic court after he's been put on notice, well, now the policeman and the district attorney have lost their cloak of immunity that they would have if they were following the rules and regulations that they have to follow. But they didn't do that. They were told officially that you weren't under their control anymore, and they either didn't understand it or ignored it. Nobody's gonna drive that drive lots in my city.
You know that attitude. You know the attitude I'm talking about. And so they go do that, well, like Joe up in New Jersey with his situation. Well, now they've acted outside of their delegated responsibilities after they've been put on notice, and now they're personally liable. So now that Joe, for instance here's a a real life example. Joe won his case up there. He almost he was he was in a position, had not they reacted, to take over the city for him and the other citizens because he went all the way back to the original charter and the things that they were required to do that they weren't doing anymore. And he nailed them, and he sent copies to the governor and the attorney general in New Jersey. And all of a sudden, the local officials were real ready to stop dropping charges. Oh, oh, oh, we're gonna drop all those five charges, and and and you gotta come in and let's get some of this discovery stuff taken care of, and and then we're just gonna close the case. Well, what's the discovery thing?
Well, there must have been some things left in discovery on the suits that were filed, and they didn't wanna totally ignore that and leave open another appeal level. That's an appeal door. So they're going, we're gonna go back and take care of it. So everything's got all the i's dotted and all the t's crossed, and we're gonna go, bye, Joe. Hey. Nice to deal with you. Thanks. So now, Joe, I think that's supposed to be done about this time a year. It's happened earlier this year. Well, now, Joe, if they wouldn't have done that, Joe and the rest of the city under this I think it was a qui tam suit, a a common lawsuit, by the way, that, they would have taken back ownership of the city. Yeah. No. It filing papers doesn't work.
Well, it does if you know what you're doing. K? Because that would have never happened if Joe Joe wouldn't have known what we know and hadn't been such a wonderful legal researcher and process writer. He did all this himself. He's got two small children to raise, and he's a guitar teacher. Okay? So Joe has made great sacrifices here, and he's done really well. Alright. And, I would love to see now what do you do with Joe? Well, once we get this discovery thing taken care of, I think Joe's gonna go back and revisit the original policeman that started all this crap that had a penis erectus for him.
And, and also the judge, which, was fully informed. You could probably go through through the prosecutor too there too. The judge that finally, judge Joe was challenging jurisdiction, and it was driving the judge crazy. And finally, he said, do you buy gas? Well, yes, sir. I got jurisdiction. No. You don't, clown. No. Sorry. And by the way, there's two types of jurisdiction, subject matter and persona. We're talking about persona jurisdiction here, not subject matter. That judge probably does have control over the streets and stuff in his area of responsibility in his jurisdiction.
But that's subject matter jurisdiction. You don't have the rights to tell me after I've done this that I've gotta have one of your stinking tags to do that or one of your stinking licenses. So there's a case right there that as we go forward and, hopefully, Joe will go after these guys. I would love for us to get those scalps on our belt. We got those two scalps on our belt. Anywhere else in the country, these jokers start trying to pull something on you, you could. Well, the problem they've got is the case is under seal. So you can't direct them to the case because they immediately put the damn thing under seal, which means nobody's got access to it. You don't think that pieces of paper matter?
Well, you might be wrong. So anyway, that's basically what we do. We've got this whole process, and we button it down on the front end. We button it down on the back end, and, most of the time, we haven't had any problems with it. Yes, ma'am. Who was that?
[01:19:04] Unknown:
Rochelle, I have a question. When and if that time comes, hopefully soon, when persona jurisdiction is established in a county, what would it look like when that judge or that man, asks for trial by jury and establishes a court of one's peers in that county?
[01:19:29] Unknown:
Well, I you gotta have over 12 people in your county. Unless it's a petit jury, you gotta have over 12 people that have filed your affidavit. So you want a jury of your peers. But why if you got a jury of your peers, you're not gonna have much of a trial because the case is already decided by the fact that you've got 12 other nationals in the county.
[01:19:52] Unknown:
12 nationals or six in that county. Whichever. Yeah. All on the same board.
[01:20:00] Unknown:
Well, in the same county on the same line. Oh, yeah. I I I are you you're in Idaho. Right, Rochelle?
[01:20:06] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:20:07] Unknown:
Well, if you wanna move just a short hop to the east there and go over to Flathead County, man Montana, you can go live in a county where there's 50 plus nationals.
[01:20:18] Unknown:
But they haven't established the the meat the weights and the physiological land, original county where they can have a trial by jury
[01:20:29] Unknown:
yet. Well, I think the more exciting prospect I don't know why all you people want a court court. Everybody out here wants to go to court, which I try and keep you out of court. No. K? Alright. No. But,
[01:20:41] Unknown:
no. But everybody does. You have that right. Right. Alright? Because then, you know, you have to face your accuser right there that there's no judgment.
[01:20:53] Unknown:
Rochelle, I can't imagine why anybody would wanna put themselves through all that torture. K?
[01:20:59] Unknown:
No. It's I'm I'm saying you don't want to. You should not go to court, only in your paperwork. But if it came to that on a murder charge or something
[01:21:12] Unknown:
that So on a murder charge? Well, on a murder charge, you'd be if you did the murder, you're guilty. That's that is a capital crime. That's a common law crime. You took someone else's life. That's not traffic.
[01:21:26] Unknown:
That's true. So you only have so that would only be in a but don't we need trial by jury in a civil cases too? Because that destroys people's lives also when they're incarcerated.
[01:21:42] Unknown:
Well, I guess if you can get one, you're off on this hypothetical path again. What if? Okay? Uh-oh. I like to deal I like to deal with what is, not what if. Okay. It hadn't happened yet. Okay. Well, when it happens happens first is in a county like that. Okay. Well, if that's the case, you come to us, and we'll discuss it. Okay? Otherwise, we're chasing our tails. I'm learning. Okay. Well, we're chasing our tails here on all this what if stuff. Paul, did you have a comment?
[01:22:14] Unknown:
No. No. I didn't. But, I'm I'm hoping that, the hanging judge, Roy Bean, or whatever doesn't, doesn't go that far. I'm hoping.
[01:22:26] Unknown:
Well, let's hope not. No. And if so, you might wanna look at a different state or a different county. You can go state shopping now. County shopping. Anyway, that's what we do, and that's everything that I just told you. Now when I first stumbled onto this, the only thing I knew to do was, first of all, when we got on the air, I'd teach you from the bottom up, which should take about three hours of going over legal stuff and explanations and this, that, and the other before I could get you to the punch line. And now we've improved on that considerably over the years.
And, and now, oh, lost my train of thought. Anyway, what we're trying to do is get you educated where you got confidence. Just like Michael and his wife are trying to get through on taxes, they're still very apprehensive, and they want everything repeated. And they're gonna ask questions. They're gonna go back and talk about it and relisten to, stuff, and I understand that and no criticism there at all. I want you to take you gotta work at your own speed. I'm not trying to speed you up or slow you down. I'm just trying to say that you're if you really wanna be free, the the level and degree of freedom that you can achieve through our methods is directly correlated to how well you have commanded the information and how well you can defend your position.
How well you can defend your position, how well you can explain it to others, and how well you can explain it down the line if everything crashes, and we've gotta rebuild all this. And there's all these dumbasses around right now, about have fifty three percent are illiterate or or or can't read above the sixth grade level or third grade level and twenty one percent of the people in the country are totally illiterate. Well, I don't know that you're gonna have to worry about many of them. Okay? But of the people that are honestly looking for answers, if this crashes, if you don't understand it, you can't answer their questions.
And then when it comes time to rebuild, you can't incorporate your ideas into the rebuilding process so the loopholes can be changed and closed so that these slimy slaving pieces of human garbage can never do this again, and I'm not quite sure they're human. K? So that's why there's a lot of, thought and a lot of, experiences of people's experiences that go into how we instruct you to go forward should you want to achieve your freedom. Okay? It's tried and proven that I I don't think there's any any questionable areas of this necessarily. Everything's been proven to our well, to my satisfaction, I hope to yours, if they have been and you're in that position of decision, you'll decide decide to go down the free road. And the reason we do that, of course, I give you a total double your money back guarantee with no questions asked.
Double. K? That's because I don't charge anything. I do expect you to pay me, however, in learning the information and getting command of it so we can help spread this exponentially. We can't get evidently, we can't get people like Jeff Rents' audience attention. I I I literally cannot believe we haven't had one person show up from those two exposures on Rents. I I I can't believe that I could have a conversation with attorney Todd Callender for two hours, and he didn't get it. I I can't believe some of these things. But I do know our stuff is true. I do know it works, and I don't know why they can't think outside the box or see it. But for some reason, those people and others don't see it.
And I I just flat don't know except that we're the chosen people and that for some reason, because you're a truth seeker, you were chosen to cross paths with this information the same way I was thirty something years ago. That's the only conclusion I can draw that makes sense, Larry. Don't you agree? Yes. I agree.
[01:26:40] Unknown:
I just wanna add that the reason we put the attorney general on notice is because the attorney general in most states statutes and constitutions is considered the chief law enforcement officer of the state. Yeah. And that's also known as the principal. That's why you invoke the law of agency on your documents. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent because the principal is the attorney general, and he should have governing power over all of his agents in the state. Yep. He or she.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
You've had miss Bondy Or she. As the attorney general of Florida for quite some time. Now there's a lot of dissension on miss Bondy out there right now from different quarters, but the one that really surprised me was the accolades piled on her by one Roger Stone. He he he really likes her and evidently has personal relationship and dealings with her.
[01:27:38] Unknown:
Another thing, Roger, is, you
[01:27:42] Unknown:
have to do that bitch.
[01:27:44] Unknown:
Another thing is, the, the the attorney generals wear two hats and Yes. They have forgotten for the most part the common law hat. It's just sitting in their closet in dust. And, I was wondering if you could just go over that a little bit. Like, when when did they forget about that hat?
[01:28:08] Unknown:
Well, they it's still there and evidenced by Rochelle's question a minute ago about somebody on trial for murder. Well, murder all all property law is state law. So murder is a capital crime. It's not a federal crime. It's a state crime, and it's under the common law. All property law is state law. The only exception to that is you as an object of their property rights under the fourteenth amendment. Then that's federal property law. But to my knowledge, unless it's a or Fort Arsenal or Needful Building, that's the only type of, federal property that would come into any kind of, litigation, understanding, misunderstanding, whatever you wanna call it.
So, yeah, it's right there. And, but I was watching some guy during COVID. They were doing those Zoom trials. It was something out in Idaho, I think, somewhere out there in the Northwest, and they're dealing with a female judge. And she made a statement like, well, I've got to know that so I can decide which path we go down in this case. Well, what's she saying? I need to know that so we can find out whether we're gonna try it under the common law or whether we're gonna try it under us, UCC or something else, I guess. So, anyway, yep, they're all there. The only state that does not have common law is Louisiana because they're under Napoleonic code. Yep.
So anybody else got any questions or comments here? My little lecture for the day. I guess that was probably for William and Tony more than anybody else, but we probably got some other new folks on here. I continually get emails, not a lot, but a few from folks out there thanking us for what we do and and making different comments that are mostly complimentary. Mostly. So who else has got something this morning? Paul, you got something you wanna bring up? I thought maybe we have the Vegas crowd check-in with us this morning, but I hadn't heard them. Yeah.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Oh, they're probably, out having breakfast or something. Shit. They're probably shitless. Well, Brent had suggested yesterday that the second hour of yesterday's program was really, really good. So I did take a snippet of the second hour, and I uploaded that as, Radio Ranch one zero one. So that was published yesterday as well, including Mhmm. Transcript and all that. Cool. Actually Yeah.
[01:30:48] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[01:30:49] Unknown:
Actually, let me, I gotta I gotta do this. I just have to. You are gonna absolutely love the AI description of yesterday's show. Yeah. Unraveling there we go. Radio Ranch one zero one, unraveling the tax code from Pollock to Brushaber, episode 1,008. In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of The US tax system focusing on historical cases and legislative changes that have shaped the current landscape. Our discussion begins with the Pollock v farmer's savings and loan case from the late eighteen hundreds, which challenged the constitutionality of direct taxes. We then explore the pivotal year of 1913 when the sixteenth and seventeenth amendments and the Federal Reserve Act were introduced, fundamentally altering the financial and political framework of The United States.
The conversation highlights the controversial ratification process, the sixteenth amendment, and its implications on national taxation. We also examined the significance of the Bruce Haber v Union Pacific Railway case and its connection to treasury decision twenty three thirteen, shedding light on the legal interpretations of tax obligations. The episode further discusses the role of the IRS and the fear it instills as well as the strategies individuals use to navigate or challenge the tax system. Through listener interactions, we hear personal experiences and insights into the complexities of tax filings, citizenship status, and the broader implications of being classified as a US citizen or nonresident alien.
This episode is a deep dive into the legal and historical context of taxation in America, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of its evolution and current challenges.
[01:32:51] Unknown:
Damn. I think I'll just let AI come in and host the day.
[01:32:59] Unknown:
I nailed it.
[01:33:01] Unknown:
Man, that I I tell you what, every time you read one of those things, Paul, I'm just if that impresses the pants off me.
[01:33:10] Unknown:
I couldn't do any better.
[01:33:12] Unknown:
Was that Dave or who who's trying to say something there? Julia. Julie. Julie. I'm so glad you helped you. Good morning. How are you?
[01:33:23] Unknown:
I'm good. How are you guys? Hey. Paul, you read something after the show ended yesterday, and you said you dropped it into the recent folder. Do you remember what you titled it?
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Yeah. It was, Paul Bieners answer.
[01:33:38] Unknown:
Oh. Okay. I have to search for that. Yeah. Just go down to the p's I'm so glad you called in today. In light of all these tariff changes and everything, you know, it looks like there's gonna be just a a ton of economic activity taking place in The US, and there's gonna be an opportunity for people that really are entrepreneurial. That's what I call them. People that are really entrepreneurial, to go out and make fortunes. Right? Like, in entree I think that's during
[01:34:10] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I think every have a down downturn. There's always, opportunities to profit on them. I mean, that's what all of these Bilderbergs do and Rothschilds and everything. They profit immensely off the look at all the investments they've made in Pfizer and then Moderna, and they just Of course. Reports with that. Yeah. But, I wanted to also
[01:34:34] Unknown:
Okay. Let me just hold hold that for a second. I wanna ask you if you heard that statement out of Andy Hitchcock's, Synagogue of Satan book wherein 14 the late well, it's in the late fourteen hundreds, and some of the Jews that were still left in, in Spain that were ordered to get out. They wrote the Sanhedrin in Constantinople and telling them about the situation, and the Sanhedrin wrote back and said, make your children apothecaries so they can kill Christians. Yeah. Fourteen ninety eight.
[01:35:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they're doing that all over again with the Noahide laws right now. So All that is is the pharmaceuticals.
[01:35:19] Unknown:
Do you know that Jewish mothers with their children put honey on books on the cover of books and have their children lick the honey off the cover of the book?
[01:35:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't know that.
[01:35:32] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:35:34] Unknown:
I wanted to ask you about this. I wanted to ask you a question. I was thinking about it last night, so I'm glad you popped up today. Are you familiar with the name Jesse Livermore?
[01:35:46] Unknown:
Livermore?
[01:35:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Speaking of making fortunes and stuff. Yeah. You ever heard of him, Jesse Livermore?
[01:35:52] Unknown:
I think I have, but remind me again.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Well, do you remember the book and the movie, The Great Gatsby?
[01:36:00] Unknown:
Yep. I have the book. I love that book. That that was fashioned after Jesse Livermore.
[01:36:07] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Jesse Livermore was the, the sage investor in the twenties who, lost and made a fortune eight different times in about ten years. One of them, he was married about went through wives about like that too. One one of his wives, he bought her a bunch of jewelry and he went bankrupting, went to her to get the jewelry and, so he could sell it and get another start. And she wouldn't do it, so he divorced her.
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Yeah. I think I remember him. He was really good with trading, but now you can't use his, strategies anymore because AI has taken over stock trading.
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Well, maybe. I'm gonna give you his motto here in a minute, but I wanted to tell you about him because most people don't know about it. I just I heard about the guy, and I went and I was fascinated by him, and I went back and researched him. So for those of you, Andre Minorial, who want to maybe make money in the upcoming switch over to tariffs and rebuilding of America, there's gonna be some fortunes made here. And I couldn't help but think of Jesse Livermore.
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And he lost Yeah. He made a profit. He made a profit in the 1929.
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He made a profit in the stock market crash of nineteen twenty nine. He he was a humdinger. I I'm gonna give you the extent of that in just a second because I heard this on a program about him. Back in the twenties, in New York City, they didn't have traffic lights. They had traffic towers where people would see the flow of the traffic and stop at one way and start at the other and all that. And he had a very unusual car that they could recognize, and Jesse Livermore never stopped for a red light in New York City.
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Very interesting.
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He was that legendary even in his own time. K? Now somebody asked him, said, what's your formula? He said, buy right, sit tight. That's the Jesse Livermore formula. Buy right, sit tight.
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Yes. He also said a stock that's never too high to buy and never too low to short.
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Yeah.
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Right. Yeah. He was
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a he was a heck of an operator. Okay? You probably never heard of the guy. Very influential in those, well, a hundred years ago, just about now. So pretty cool. But, anyway, I was thinking about that, and you're pretty steady, knowledgeable gal. And I said, well, hell, I'll ask Julie if she knows about old Jesse. Yes. Very interesting fellow, Jesse Livermore. Bye. Right? Sit tight. Yep.
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There you go. I like that. There's, I wanted to bring up something else. There's this guy on Telegram. Probably a lot of people in in your channel know about him. His name is Alfonso, Foglio or Figlio. I can never pronounce his last name. He's a guy out of Pennsylvania. He and James Tracy are really going after these courts for these property taxes. So, you know, he was describing the last time he was in court in Pennsylvania and had to educate the judges and all the attorneys that were against him what the laws were. They didn't even know what the laws were, and they were citing case law that didn't have anything to do with, you know, an individual's right to own property. He's like he told the judge, how can you tax a right that's a right for me to own property? That's like me taxing you for the right to free speech. How how do I put a value on the right for you to talk? And so anyway, it he was just it was very humorous how he was describing. So I guess he's describing his case.
So I guess he's, he's appealed this and he's going to another level, but he's also doing the Joe Lustica thing here representing himself in court and going after these people for laws that do not exist when it comes to taxing property and you can only tax property if it's in commerce. It seems like if you're sitting at your home and you're sleeping, eating and watching TV or reading, that's not taxable. And he's also going after the third party that the counties have contracted with to use their software assigned values to your home. So anyway, I I do follow him because he's extremely smart, about these these county and state laws that are Yeah. Totally, corrupt and fraudulent.
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What we're, what we're doing is, the death of a thousand cuts, and they're getting hit from all kinds of directions. And us, these type of people, people after their oaths, just all these little factions around the country that have got their own little, area of expertise that they're pursuing and, fantastic.
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Yeah. There's a he has a website for anybody who's interested. It's called municipalterrorism.com.
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Well, that's good.
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That's the name
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of the United.
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Do you know what the definition of terrorism? It was. They've changed it, of course, in the Yeah. That would be the English nation. Government. That would be any government agency. Said intimidation by government as in the French Revolution. That was the number one definition of terrorism in the finest dictionary of the world, the Oxford English Dictionary. And then a couple years ago, they put something else in there. We don't want that in there. Lord's sakes.
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Yeah. He's got link he's got links to all of the case law resources as well as all the documents What? Good for him. On his site to help you out. So, he's trying to get this, you know, overturned, and you've got, Ron DeSantis now out in, out in Florida talking about repealing property taxes down there as well. So we'll have Well, it's got some legs. It's got some legs around the country and justifiably so.
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And, we'll we'll see. It's just Yeah. You know, Julie, I'm really I'm just a one horse pony. You know? One trick pony. Oh, you're a good pony. Giddy up. Well, okay. I've been giddy up, and I'm stopping for a little water on Apple about right now.
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Hey, Roger. I've been I've spoken to Tony and William. And like Larry said before, I think you just misinterpreted them because they do understand this stuff. I think Tony's whole entire and William's whole entire, thing is that or their whole entire spiel is all about the fact that we have such corrupt courts here and such corrupt judiciary here that you can have the best written paper and you can note all of the actual rights and laws behind all of those. But if you have, corrupt judges in courts that are going to disregard that and make their own laws, which is what they're doing in some of the states with like the guy in Georgia who has to have to go have a hearing. And in August of this year, then we have this utter lawlessness here. And I think that was their whole entire point here is that things that fourteen years ago, when you started this, things are a lot different now from the standpoint of utter lawlessness.
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Uh-huh. Well, one thing that they automatically assume is that you're gonna have to go to court. What we try and do with our information is keep you out of court because their courts don't apply to you. Okay? So we try to get in those situations. We try and deal with it administratively out front and try and do everything we can do to get you out of there unless some people just wanna go in there and do it. And I don't know whether they're sadists or masochists. I haven't decided yet, Julie, but some people really enjoy that. And I guess if you can get over the nerves and have a little bit of knowledge on process, it can be very, very joustable, if you say. It can be almost chivalrous like the way some kind of court things are supposed to be, like the the statement. The, sir, are you an independent trier of facts, or are you a party to the action?
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Right. Now I get that. I just think that, you know, I I understand there's in fact, even, Alfonso makes the quote on his site when the government, fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. And I just think some of the people here here right now. I mean, look what they're doing. They're throwing people. They threw Tina Peters in jail in Colorado for nothing. I know. For nothing. Colorado. So I think these people do, I think they hate government has succeeded in instilling fear in in people. Sometimes I myself fear them at times. I'm like, I don't wanna fear them, but just creeps into my brain.
Right. And then I gotta get it out. I gotta work on, you know, my interest.
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It will come. You keep studying. You keep growing, and that will come. But it is not I got it. Doesn't happen. It doesn't happen overnight. Okay? Oh, I know. Unfortunately. Because it didn't get there overnight. It's very deep conditioning. And Joan wants to weigh in. Hey, Joan. Lauren. Isn't that Joan? Oh, it's Lauren. It's Lauren. You sound like It's Lauren. You sound like Joan. You sound like our coastal river in South Carolina. Hi, Lauren. Hi. Hey, Lauren. Two days in a row. Yeah. Meet Julie.
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Got it. Yeah. Hi, Julie. I followed all of Alphonse Agiolo's, YouTubes intensely because I am in Pennsylvania. And he does have that tax code down very, very well and all of the definitions. And I did go to his Telegram channel a long time ago and and
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was
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You're clipping a little, Lauren.
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K. Is it Let's see. Try again. Said okay. He said, keep that Patriot crap out of here. And I thought, okay. Well, you're gonna have a long fight, bud. Because until you change your citizenship status, you are going to continually to be viewed as the of your house. Well Not a foul plan. It's you.
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Yeah. Didn't somebody say he, works with Joe? I would imagine Joe would inform him on that. No. No. No. He doesn't work with Joe. He's, been working with Brian Tracy. Brian Tracy is going after property taxes in a different state, and he has a a Telegram channel called affidavits one zero one. So, yeah. But, I think I think that, Alfonso, he doesn't say to keep that national status out of his chat. I think he says to keep the birth certificate and the all caps name and your straw man out of his chat. Oh, all of that Patriot stuff. Yep. Yep. Well, I agree with him on that. I mentioned
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I mentioned the fourteenth amendment and the citizen status, and he shot me down real fast. So I thought, okay. Wow. I like Roger says, I don't wanna go to court. I just wanna file the paperwork and let them know where I stand and let them know I know what the laws are, and I am outside of the jurisdiction that you're trying you're trying to apply to me. I would much rather do that.
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It's much easier. Tread on me. Have to fight. Don't tread on me.
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So Yeah. No. So that's pretty good. I'm back.
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Well, I'm just tickled to death to have you back. Are you is your garden you're setting your garden up already? You already got it going? Oh,
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well, the all the well, it's too cold here to put the baby.
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So right now, they're living in my bedroom. Okay. Hey, Roger?
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Yes. Julie.
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Yeah. I just wanted to I'll let somebody else talk. I also wanna let you know that, you know, Tony and William are huge fans of, Robert Barnes. They they subscribe to barnesreview.com, And there's they and to the three radio shows that, that he he has, the political cesspool, the ASP report, and the TBR History Hour. So that's that's another thing you guys all have in common because you're a big fan of, Robert Barnes as well. Well, I am. Well, somebody I highly respect.
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By the way, he is they had a pretty good show Sunday night, and he's moving his whole deal back to Chattanooga. And they're gonna start having, get togethers and stuff in Chattanooga and in the Southeast. And if any of you wanna check on that, it might be in that area. I think they've got a big one coming up planned in August. It it's, viva barnes law, viva barnes law dot locals dot com. And subscription information, all their shows, and, yeah, he does a lot of stuff, you know, Bourbon with Barnes and some of his hush-hush things, and he really gives. I think they charge for a membership $10 a month. Mark was doing it for a while, but you get a lot of value for $10 a month. K?
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Yeah. And then they're live on rumble. You have Viva Barnes. I think it's b e b I d e barns, all one word on rumble on Sunday evenings. And if you missed the live, you can watch the rerun Could they upload it? Yeah. Well, when they're live in the early evening, late afternoon, early evening, they've always got that trailer up on rumble.com
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at the top there. And then when it's finished, you can but I don't I don't join it live. I just wait till it's recorded and listened. But, yeah, I've got all that admiration for Barnes. I'd love to get to him. He's given indications that he understands, but yet he doesn't understand. And, the example that really comes to mind was here about a year or a little more ago. There were some Supreme Court cases that dealt with I can't remember what the main topic was. There's two or three of them that were decided. And they came back and Barnes said, the fourteenth amendment is the great equalizer.
And then he kind of got this little crappy and grin on his face. And, and that's right. But it's not the whole picture. It equalized us down to what? Federal citizens. So he and he I've heard him say stuff. They they act like they own you and stuff like that on there. So he's close, and maybe one of these days, we'll get the chance to introduce it to him.
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But, yeah, I like that. I like You can get on you can get on that show. There's, like, 25,000, listeners live. It's amazing how many people he amasses every time every Sunday night.
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Well, I do. I listen. Well, oh, you mean live, I guess. Well, you just send him a message or something. Now watch it. We'll get we'll cross paths with mister Barnes at some point is my prediction. And I and I've had several instances with attorneys that just flat refused to believe this. Okay? And I don't want him to be one of them, so I haven't pressed it at this stage. Yeah. I agree. But, you you know, there's the question. Here's one question I'd like to ask him. Hey, Ron Barnes. What makes one subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Duh.
It's the key phrase in the whole thing. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It's never been adjudicated but one time in 1878. What makes one subject to the jurisdiction thereof? And it doesn't tell you what makes you subject. It just tells you what the phrase means, subject to the political jurisdiction of the federal government. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. I don't know if Lauren's still on the, on the call, but I had a question for her. Yes. I think it was yesterday when she was on. Okay.
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We haven't seen her in years. So, yeah, Lauren. Alright. Let's make sure get where he because you were clipping when when you were talking to us a minute ago. Larry, what's your question for the lovely one?
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Well, she sounds like an established student, and and, I don't wanna change the subject too much, but she said yesterday that she got her driver's license renewed. And I was wondering what her thoughts are on that whole issue. Does she do wanna continue the contract with the state? Is she eventually going to get, like like, maybe do a Joe Lustica process with DOT plates? I was just thinking I wanted to hear her thoughts on that subject.
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Lauren Lauren's going has a big she's a big gardener. Maybe she sells her produce and goes around in commerce. Lauren, you wanna answer Larry's question?
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I am not. I I'm just gonna leave that alone because I am a single woman, and I am all too familiar with police brutality, and I like to stay out of court. Yep.
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So if it's just see, all those kind of things, they're personal decisions on how you want to make your life better and livable. K? K. They're all personal decision. Some people will say one thing, some others. Yes, Mirka. Here you are. Hey, Mirka. Hey. Good morning. Hey. Hi, Lauren. Nice to hear your voice.
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Nice nice to hear your voice. He she has a lot of, info. I've been I chat with Lauren and Padgett all the time, and, she did share, Alfonso. Is is that is that his name with whom Alfonso. Yeah. And I reviewed his information, but, he he doesn't, he doesn't really, like, follow the affidavit stuff. So, I mean, it's good data you can follow and and take in and research.
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He's a big Barnes fan, you say? Well, I wonder what he thought about Barnes saying Pennsylvania has the most corrupt courts in the country. Barnes is not he's not a real big fan of your court system there, Lauren.
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Oh, I I can understand that.
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You know, he he's the one that's defending Amos Miller. Do you know about Amos Miller? Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. He Oh, yes. I do. Yep. Yep. Barnes is his attorney. Pro bono, by the way.
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Well and I have sent Amos Miller information specifically about the citizenship status and also Aladass, man and other animals Yeah. To forward to forward those those ones to Barnes as well. So Yeah. You know, you can only do so much.
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Wherever freedom is challenged, Barnes is gonna show up, and I just really admire him for his, tenacity and his audacity. Right? So, and some of us have got that too, don't we, Lauren? So good to hear your voice again two days in a row and everybody else and I hope you got something out of today. It was kind of elementary but, it's for newer people and as I think everybody will attest to, you just can't hear this stuff enough. I don't believe you can. So anyway, we'll take another stab at it tomorrow, see what comes up. Maybe we'll get Mark or somebody on. He's been with us on Wednesdays and Saturdays till he took off out there to Vegas for a couple of days, so we'll find out. Anybody's got any good questions or comments, we'd love to hear them tomorrow. And all of us will find out together what happens the rest of today because things kind of volatile, it would seem.
So thank you. Love each and every one of you. Just Lauren, I'm so tickled to see you back. Not too many of our old students come back like that. Thanks for visiting us. And we will hope you'll continue to do so and participate and input and all the stuff and give others your experience. And I just love each and every one of you. As you get out and start talking to people about this, you'll know why. So, otherwise, see you tomorrow. Ciao.
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And we're off.
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Alright. And, of course, it's Tuesday, which is the Patriot Expat Day. I got a little more breathing room with the time change, but, it's still that afternoon. And just as soon as we it's been beautiful the whole time we've been on the air and just now clouded up and probably rained this afternoon. So but we're not out of our weather pattern yet. So anybody got anything for me now? Well, you can be thankful you don't have my weather. Oh, I'm I'm expecting between six and nine inches of snow this week. I don't want anything to do with New York, quite frankly. Yes. Who's trying to get through? Oh, good. This is William.
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Yeah. We were just coming in, but I I Okay. Yeah. Hey. How are you doing? Yeah. I've I've spoken with Larry and, Julie, and, you know, we kinda expressed our our Okay. Position on the show. We're not, yeah, we're not saying that the paperwork don't work, but I want I didn't I didn't wanna chime in on that. I wanna chime in while we're doing the show. Now do you all consider yourself white nationalists?
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Well, you could say that in the strictest definition of the word. I'll tell you what. Most of us also consider ourselves to be Christian nationalists as they're throwing that around. It's very accurate description of us. Now do you understand, William, where they get the term national
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before the March 14? From the black from the black nationalist perspective, I get it. But I'm not sure make sure I'm understanding from your perspective.
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Well, I I put across where I think there's there's another whitey, trying to get across where they got the word. Okay? And in the before the fourteenth amendment, if you take a vertical line and kind of put these things vertically, God, state citizen, citizen of The United States Of America, or a national citizen. Do you follow that? So that's would y'all be would you say it? Yeah. Well, that's yeah. That's the way it's laid out. Now here's what they did. With the fourteenth amendment, they took God at the top and they put substitute the federal government. And instead of being a state citizen first, you're a citizen of the federal citizen of The United States First, and then second, a state citizen, but only if you reside.
They switched them. They switched God, and they switched the order on the other two.
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That's all that's happening. Well, we let I I yeah. Now what I like to say that we let they if they didn't do it, we let them do it. Okay. We the people because we're not we're not fighting against them in any capacity. So we've let them do. But everything y'all accused them of doing on this show, we've actually it's the people. We've we the people have left them. We've allowed them to do it. No. I agree. Yeah. But that's because it was executed with fraud.
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That's because it was executed with fraud, and we weren't able to sniff out their plans. And that's why when we file this paperwork,
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you expose the fraud, and they have to recognize it. Mhmm. Now so when y'all were talking about the Barnes, Julie had mentioned I had mentioned to Julie, about the Barnes review and American Free Press. Oh, no. But you were saying something about
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Robert Barnes. He's an attorney. Are you're not familiar with Robert Barnes, the attorney?
[01:59:58] Unknown:
That no. I don't think so. If it if it's not in association with the Barnes Review. No. It's not. He's a different guy. He's a champion guy.
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Followed by when he was young, got a scholarship to Yale, went to Yale along with, probably after, but along with Eric Clarence Thomas. And then something happened. He got in a pissing match with him and ended up graduating at the University of Wisconsin. He's an extremely good attorney. Remember, who was the black actor that they ran up for taxes down there in Florida?
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Oh, Wesley Snipes?
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Yeah. He was Snipes' attorney. He's also got an I he was Snipes' attorney. He's also got a an IRS company. But he's been around a long time. He's real high profile now. And, as I said, wherever freedom is challenged, Barnes shows up, and usually it's pro bono. He's got his own site constitutional law seventeen seventy six or something, and they handle a bunch of pro bono work. Like I told, like I told, Lauren, hey. Are you familiar with Amos Miller? Not no. I'm not. Uh-uh. Amos Miller? He's an he's an Amish farmer up there that the feds in Pennsylvania have been prosecuting for years.
He's a fourth generation Amish farmer since his Okay. No. I have to make sure that he's all well, all over the country for I think for twenty five years, he's you know that he's never had they're trying to shut him down. He's never had in twenty five years one complaint filed about Enbridge products anywhere. Yeah. And they're trying to matter of fact, I've read an article,
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I've read an article in American Free Press. Julie as well, you might wanna check that out. I read an article in America Free Press recently about that. Yeah. Right. That was interesting. Barnes just Barnes comes through as his his aide is and has gotten him out all that shit up there. So,
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he's a heck of an attorney. Every Sunday night, him and another, attorney who's a Canadian former attorney, and his, is Viva Fry. That's why they've got all this French stuff. He's he's from that part of Canada. Viva Fry and and Barnes, and they have a show on Rumble that's live from five or six till eight, eight thirty. And then it's over there on Rumble. You can go over and get it in all the episodes. Just put Viva Barnes Law in search, and they'll come up. Okay.
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Music Health and Yeah. I'll check that out on Sunday. Yeah. I'll check that out on Sunday. I'm just yeah. I was really key, wanted to, talk to you all about the white nationalist perspective because I do like I said, I do read the American Free Press and the Barnes Review, and they're considered by this government a white national nationalist paper, but they're more of a unifier to me than than a divisionary, Oh, yeah. Concept of perspective. So and so I but I read a lot of the black nationalist stuff too, like Marcus Garvey. And Marcus Garvey you familiar with him?
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Yes. From the last century in New York. Yes. Yeah. That's where he met. He ran
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for a lot. He ran for president while he was in jail, didn't he? I don't I don't think Garvey ran for president. I don't think now. Don't don't quote me on it, but I got a lot of material. But my my keen interest on him was when he met see, I come from the Black Nationalist perspective, and I when I read Garvey about and the UNIA and how they met with the Ku Klux Klan, and he formed an alliance with the Ku Klux Klan, the organic Ku Klux Klan that was started by Nathan Bedford, I believe it was.
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Nathan Bedford Forrest. Forrest.
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Forrest. That was it. Yeah. So yeah. And they started the organic Klan, and and there were a thousand black members in the organic or the original Ku Klux Klan. And so Garvey Yep. Created an alliance from the from the UNI, the United Negro Improvement Association back in the twenties. He met with them and created an alliance and the black and the we we call them the black uncle Toms. We're furious about that. But in in me, when I read it, I was really impressed. And so that's why I like to talk to people that are who are of the white nationalist perspective. I can't stand the white liberals, but I like the folks of the white nationalist perspective coming, you know, coming from the black We can't either. Well, what's happening here is we're coming together is what you're describing.
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And we we get together instead of being split apart and adversarial, we get brought together and we go, hey, William. See these sumbitches over here? They're the ones that are doing all this. We go, yeah. I see them. I know. Well, now we're united, and that's their big fear. And that's why I told you when y'all showed up, I told you I welcomed people from the black community with open arms around here. That's why. Mhmm.
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Yeah. And that yeah. And we we didn't want we didn't want to give people the impression that we weren't getting back on the show, but we were reached out to by Larry and, Julie. Julie. And, you know, they were trying to explain knowing he I and we don't we never thought that you were, a white I mean, a a a person trying to call division, but we were concerned that you were misconstruing what we were saying.
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Now, you know, I've had I've had some people that wanted to assist me and help me set up a website and stuff. And I gave them I gave them these two quotes. I said, I like these at the top of the website. The first one is Goethe, who is German, wrote Faust. It says, there are none so helplessly enslaved as those who fall asleep believe they're free. Boy, is that accurate. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Under that was Harriet Tubman. And I wonder if you Harriet Tubman. That's why you know any reference. Well, I was gonna if you're gonna tell you that's quote from her. Oh, I've heard it. Freed a thousand slaves. I freed a thousand slaves. I would have freed more.
And I could have freed thousands more actually if they only knew they were Yeah. Rogers.
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Yeah. But she only actually did 300.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Whatever. Yeah. But and she said good for Yeah. But she said yeah.
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Anyway, the guy told me, he said, I won't put a quote from a black person at the top of the site. And right then, I said, well, we're not gonna work together very well. So I I just don't I I think that's a bunch of shit. That wasn't the way I was brought up. My father didn't raise me under those values, and I don't maintain them today. And if you don't believe me, ask Brent Bachman on here who's been a friend of mine for over thirty years from Atlanta. K?
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Roger? Who who? No. Brent Bachman, you said?
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Yeah. Brent. His last name is Bachman. He's out in Las Vegas now. He said something a minute ago about you being white. He's got one of those great, great Negro based voices. Brent, say something. Now you can't call him out. He's off doing something. I hate white.
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He sound like very white.
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Just Yeah. The walrus of love is what we used to call him. Tell where's your saying, Brent? Just another act of the man keeping us down.
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Oh, another example of a man keeping us down.
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How old are you? How how old are you, Brent?
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Sixty seven.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. We wanna sing. I'm 64. So, yeah, I think we come from the same mindset.
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Yeah. Yeah. I bet you can tell it's big as the side of a house too. Right? And I'm a little bitty guy.
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Yeah. Yeah. The boys the boys all that bass and the boys. Yeah. You make me pretty tall. But yeah. So that's where we were that's where we were, coming from. But I have been looking over the site.
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And Okay. Well
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yeah. Oh, and so so the, but the white nationalism, I wanted to get make sure I had clarity on that because I don't deal with no white liberals. I don't I can't stand No. No. No. Well, that's where they get the that's, I'm sure, where they got the label was that first thing I described to you, the state citizen who were predominantly
[02:08:08] Unknown:
white, not exclusively. Well, they were the ones that were state citizens, citizens of The United States Of America or a national citizen because all the states were conglomerated as independent countries. That's how they thought of themselves. So Roger? Yeah. I'm yes. I think that's where they get the label, William. Yeah. What you got, Myrca? And and and there's a difference between national and a nationalist.
[02:08:36] Unknown:
Nationalist believes in nationalism. We are nationals of the, you know, of the state of the 50 states, you know, sovereign states. And we are individually, you know, take you know, carrying on our claim as a private individual. And nationalism nationalism is, you know, bringing in advocacy to nationalism. So, you know, when not when you're advocating for nationalism, it's an elevation of one nation over a nationality above all others. Mhmm. So Yeah. It's not the same as what we're doing.
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Yep. And they and, you know, we've we've never declared. We've never labeled ourselves that directly or I've thought of in my mind as they've developed this label to be derogatory. They mean for people to take that derogatorily. Oh, there are some of those Christian nationals. Yeah. That's us. Okay. So it's like their new substitution for the term sovereign citizen
[02:09:45] Unknown:
In some way Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:09:48] Unknown:
Well, man, but the funny thing is is if you ask me, are you a Christian national? I go, well, yeah. Or and what has Brent been teaching These courses last eight, nine weeks on Christian nationalism. But, yeah, they've molded that label for us. They're not using it against us. They're using it derogatorily for the people that don't understand.
[02:10:12] Unknown:
It just happens to fit us perfectly. Who is that just speaking? What what's the lady name that was just speaking at? Myrka. She's the one.
[02:10:20] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Myrka. And she's the one that runs the Telegram channel. If you've tapped into that, she got about 500 students over there. Telegram national status freedom, three words, or the link is, on the website somewhere. Oh, it's on the web okay. If it's on the website, I'll I'll post it in the chat right now.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Oh, well, is the chat still up now? Yeah. Are you on the phone? Are you in the chat? Yeah. I'm on my phone, unfortunately. Tony, you on the phone?
[02:10:52] Unknown:
And and Larry has the link too, so he can share with you. Yeah. Let me see if you can see my phone.
[02:10:58] Unknown:
Yeah. You won't have any. Julia or Larry. Share it with me, Julia or Larry.
[02:11:02] Unknown:
Okay. Julia or Larry. Share with it. Share, Mark. Julie, he's probably in front of her computer. Just cheer him to them if you guys got contact, coach up. Yeah. And, yeah, I know. You know what? The the the discussion with me with the other day with Tony was not it wasn't anger. It's frustration. Because I want y'all to know that what we do here is real different. It's real grounded. It's real lawful, and it's recognized and all that. And it wasn't something where the people come kick your door in. It's the people that haven't gone through this that may accidentally or intentionally get their door kicked down. But literally, right down there by you in, around Clearwater, I think, William, one of our our guys, the sheriffs came to their house on some question about their bay there was a baby question there.
And, they came out and said, here's our affidavit. We put them on notice, and they left, and everything went swimmingly.
[02:12:04] Unknown:
So, I think Clearwater?
[02:12:07] Unknown:
I was in that area. I'm not sure in Clearwater, but somewhere in that part of Florida. And it's our, our I just his name doesn't come to me right now. Anyway, he's the one that told us that. But that's experiences we generally have or they don't mess with you at all. You know? Or they'll send you something and say, well, we'll get back with you. We're looking at your account, and you never hear from them again in the case of the IRS. Some of that, but we're on the up and up. And, we're welcoming you guys with open arms, William and Tony. And, as you get deeper into it and have more questions, that's what we're here for right here. K? Yeah. And, Roger? Kinda went, over that sequence today. We hear somebody from your area right here, William, as Bob. Yeah, Bob.
[02:13:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Might be instructive. At least I've almost always found it to be instructive to go back to the root of a word. And when you look at the word national or nation, it's a common root with nativity. It has to do with a common birth. So Okay. I'm not gonna expound on that, but you can put that together and do a little research on it. Basically, it's impossible to have a nation of disparate people that have no common birth. It defies the definition of a nation. You may have a country with a lot of different ethnic groups in it, but that doesn't comprise a nation in specific terms.
[02:13:47] Unknown:
Correct. It's a people. I think one of the definitions is a people, like a race. That's one of Paul English's big deals. William Another thing, Roger. Bob here Bob here is right down by you in Okeechobee. K? Yes, Marco. Okay.
[02:14:04] Unknown:
So where are you at?
[02:14:07] Unknown:
We we're in Clearwater and Spring Okay. Area. Tony's in Spring Hill, but but you said Bob. Right?
[02:14:14] Unknown:
Yes. Correct.
[02:14:17] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Terribly far away. Well, let's reach out.
[02:14:21] Unknown:
Sure. Alright. William, what I need for you to do is to send me an email
[02:14:27] Unknown:
Yes. At my email is radio Let me type it in right now. Okay.
[02:14:34] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Website? It's oh, hey. There's Gary too. Radioranch,nospace,2radioranch,nospace,@mail,mail,notGmail,mail.com. Radio ranch, no space, mail dot com. Here's another one of our old time listeners here today too, William, for you, and that's Gary. And he's out in Flathead County, Montana and has a weekly group when he swell of over 50 people a week that come and they've been through the process. Hey, Gary. Are you feeling better?
[02:15:10] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I'm feeling a lot better. Oh, you sound better. And I got a lot of people wanting me to go back doing classes again, but I don't know about that. Okay. But one thing I wanted to point out was Bob mentioned the nationality, and that's one thing that's all this immigration. Connect the dots. All this immigration is to weaken our nationality. Of course. Whether it's the black nationals, whether it's white nationals, it doesn't matter. Yeah. If you were born in this country, you've been immigrated from another country, think about the fact that they have no values or understanding of our history or anything of this nation.
They even come from a different social era class,
[02:15:59] Unknown:
and it's being done that's Language.
[02:16:02] Unknown:
Exactly. It was being done on purpose to weaken that nationality and the loyalty to this country.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
There's never been a nation that spoke two different languages that existed except like Canada where the French speakers, the Liberals, have moved off to the East and everybody else moved west. So, yeah, all those things are correct. Larry, I'm really Gary, I'm glad to hear you sounded so good, man.
[02:16:27] Unknown:
Well Hey. I'm over Gary Yeah. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. Agree wholeheartedly. What I wanna know is if I come up there, can you are you still cooking ham and eggs in the morning?
[02:16:41] Unknown:
Well, this morning, it was chicken and eggs.
[02:16:45] Unknown:
I see. Yeah. So Well, I have I I've never made it up there, but if I ever did, when I heard you had a little cafe going there, I thought to myself, I'll have to put that on my bucket list. I I bought it list. Appreciate that. And for William's information
[02:17:00] Unknown:
for William's information, I've been a national since 02/2008. I have not filed taxes. I have never once received any notice from the IRS in all those years. And that's what? Seventeen years? So learn the information, trust the information, and wonderful things will happen to you.
[02:17:28] Unknown:
There you go. Okay. Thanks a lot, my friend. Wait. What's your name again? Better. Gary. You get you keep getting better, Gary. He's had a a pancreatitis and and some other very painful,
[02:17:39] Unknown:
conditions left. You sound good, Gary.
[02:17:42] Unknown:
Yeah. He does. Gotcha. One more Okay. One more thing. Okay. One more thing, William. I gotta go in a minute. Go ahead.
[02:17:49] Unknown:
Just he said we the people, what I've learned in research is that we we are not we the people. We the people are congress and the military of The United States, and we are just the people of United States Of America. Not we the people the people. No. We the people was was something that they created to fool the people, and their words their words that they changed around, in the reconstruction.
[02:18:21] Unknown:
Merck, I think that's a reach, but I'm not gonna discuss it with you today.
[02:18:26] Unknown:
We the people in congress assembled? Don't think that's a reach.
[02:18:30] Unknown:
We're we're our re
[02:18:32] Unknown:
okay. We the people in congress assembled. Says it right there. They were our they were our representatives.
[02:18:39] Unknown:
They were representing us at that point.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
K? So but, anyway, that's my opinion. If y'all wanna think the It it was just something that they they used to fool the people, Roger,
[02:18:49] Unknown:
to Where did you get that from? Them
[02:18:52] Unknown:
from from, you know, them being for The United States. This is where they brought in and changed all the words, you know, the quit the equivitate equidicated I can't even say it. Equidicated all the words like state capital state, little you know, small letter state. And, you know, now putting in the fourth thirteenth and fourteenth amendment, bringing in the corporation as a person. You know, they changed all a lot of the words for people not to figure out what they're doing, and this is how they consented and volunteered to become a US citizen. Fantastic.
[02:19:32] Unknown:
I'm going to lunch. I'll, I'll see y'all tomorrow. Okay? Have a good day. Thanks. Alright. Alright. Good to see you two back, William, Tony.
[02:19:41] Unknown:
Bye. Yep. Okay. Bye. I sent you an email, Roger.
[02:19:45] Unknown:
William and Tony, if you haven't seen Jones's Plantation by Larkin Rose, I really suggest you watch it. I hope you have.
[02:19:55] Unknown:
No. I haven't. Say it again. I'm gonna try Julie, could you type that in? The the just text? Say it again, my friend. Julie may have left, though. Let me see.
[02:20:07] Unknown:
I think the title is Jones's Plantation. It's it's produced by a Larkin Rose.
[02:20:14] Unknown:
It's just Jones Plantation.
[02:20:17] Unknown:
Jones. Oh. Oh, I've seen Jones Plantation. Is that with, that actor that came out came out the regular theaters? Is that the one you're talking if that's the same one?
[02:20:28] Unknown:
Oh.
[02:20:30] Unknown:
With the group of slaves, you uniting with the working class whites. K. Let me just put it in. Say it again. No. Jones Plantation
[02:20:43] Unknown:
Jones Plantation? Yeah. Jones Plantation film, I think, is the website. You can go find it.
[02:20:51] Unknown:
Okay. It's a website? Yeah. It was. Alright. I got it in. There's a website for the movie. Okay. And what, just kinda just give me an overview of it right quick. Are are we getting off the line here? What it is Oh, it's a movie. Movie.
[02:21:12] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a movie. And what it is is, there's this plantation, and the plantation owner was having trouble with the slaves. And he hired this guy that would be the go between between him and the slaves. And, well, jeez, I really can't explain, watching it without giving it away, but you really need to watch it.
[02:21:45] Unknown:
Okay. Because it is. Hey. Just another quick quest yeah. Okay. I got it. I got it. It's in our group text with Julie. Mirka, what what source did more Mirka get that information from that she was, emphasizing earlier? What's the source? Okay.
[02:22:04] Unknown:
Alright. We have two professors. At one time, they got along. They're in a head butting contest. We don't want to mention either one to either one ever. I asked if you understand. Oh,
[02:22:33] Unknown:
I just don't know what you're saying. Okay. So Yeah. But so she she brought it up, and that's why we just wanna know the source. But then you said, there was two judges that were having having a disagreement and No. No. No. Two professors,
[02:22:48] Unknown:
meaning Roger and Mike Gaddy. Do not mention either one to either one of them and probably not their teachings. We a lot of us embrace both of their teachings. They don't like each other's stuff.
[02:23:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, okay. But then that that's, you know, that's the thing that we're gonna have to really kinda get above in the in this so called movement. We have the same problems in our movements as well, where it's too much pity differ petty differences, and we let that become the focus issue. And, you know, we shouldn't let that in. There's gonna be differences.
[02:23:34] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Somewhere somewhere somebody put a fly in the ointment and, you know, drove a wedge between them because they did a show together on Wednesdays for about a year and a half. Mhmm. And, you know, but, you know, well, Mike Gatti has a pretty interesting background and, you know, then Roger has his background also. Mhmm. You know, but, Mike Mike is on on Tuesdays, this evening. He's got a show. And, if you can get to the chat or if Julie or Larry can look at the chat and give that info to you, you can, you know, hear what he's saying. You're up from the East Coast. I'm on the West.
Mhmm. That comes on at seven in the evening. Wait a minute. No. It comes on at five in the evening over here, so it'd be eight your time until you know, for two hours.
[02:24:43] Unknown:
Is it open discussion or is he he just pretty much an open discussion?
[02:24:48] Unknown:
He's teaching, the first hour, and then it's question and answer. And he talks about before the constitution, the constitution, the revolutionary war, and afterwards. And then he talks about before, the civil war, the civil war, reconstruction.
[02:25:14] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to get on that.
[02:25:18] Unknown:
And he has, like, copies, certified copies of the actual documents. Oh, okay. You ain't going you ain't going off you said, she said, these are people that were there and attested to it.
[02:25:36] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Julie, put that in the chat too if you can. I'd like to get on that call. I think you put something in there about my dad.
[02:25:45] Unknown:
I'll I'll put it in there in a minute.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Brent, that's all weather. I'll have a check with you. Drove a witch between them.
[02:25:54] Unknown:
Say again?
[02:25:56] Unknown:
Who was it? Who exactly was it that drove a witch between them? A wedge.
[02:26:02] Unknown:
I've I don't know. Idea who whale.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
He said a witch. Barry White said a witch.
[02:26:17] Unknown:
Hey, Brett. The highway's way off. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[02:26:22] Unknown:
Yeah. We know you. Sorry.
[02:26:24] Unknown:
Like, he's on Tuesdays from eight to ten. Oh, that's tonight. Tuesdays, eight to ten. Yeah.
[02:26:30] Unknown:
Yep. Also, on Thursdays, aft right after Roger's show, you'll see a lot of people disappear if you're, you know, on the app. And we've run over we run over to another FCC channel, and he's on for a couple hours. And then there's an after show for probably an hour or two. You know? Oh, okay. Where we're really talking about some stuff. You know?
[02:26:59] Unknown:
Oh, I'd like to get on that then too.
[02:27:02] Unknown:
Okay. We'll load your plate up.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Julie, send me whatever you have on that too in the after party.
[02:27:11] Unknown:
Hey, Brent. This is Larry.
[02:27:14] Unknown:
Did Brent leave? Yeah. No. You guys hear me? Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. So,
[02:27:20] Unknown:
do you agree with what Mirka said? And, William, what do you what are your thoughts on on that as far as we
[02:27:28] Unknown:
I'll let Brent go first. If no one
[02:27:31] Unknown:
leaks this out past this room and to the person being talked about, yeah, I do agree with her on that one. Usually, I do not agree with her, and we'll leave it at that. And no one's to say anything. Okay? Except for the fact that we know who it came from.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
Right. Well, Larry, to answer your question Larry, now this is William. I I I've gotta look into it a little bit more because I I mean, I don't try to get too bogged down with, you know, a lot of this detailed information is gonna cause division because I want to I wanna look I'm look we're looking for unity, but I I will look into a little bit more. Maybe I can get on Gatti's show because I got the information for his show. Maybe I can get on the show and kinda get let him give me some further clarity. Or if y'all can give me a source where he got it from Tony to ask earlier about the source, if it if it's a book or something where he's getting his information from, I'd like to get the book. Hey, William.
Yeah.
[02:28:37] Unknown:
William, this is David with nationalstatus.com. I I just wanna invite you guys to the website. It's a great resource. We we've compiled much of the information that Roger talked about in an organized fashion.
[02:28:51] Unknown:
And we have
[02:28:53] Unknown:
we actually have coursework under the learning center that you can, learn about this stuff in an organized way. And then in the remedy section, we have the process spelled out and the process that's in there has worked for us, my wife and I, and others that have used it. We haven't had any pushback on that on that stuff. So we should samples of our documents and the whole bit. So feel free to to go there. It's nationalstatus.com or nationalstatus.info. I just wanted to hear that with you guys.
[02:29:31] Unknown:
Okay. But let me hold on. Hold on. Let me type this in because I'm I'm I'm trying Julie, do you have that information, Julie? You can type it in or you want me to just type it in? I already I already typed all this in. Text text the chat. Oh, I'm looking at the chat, but I don't see the with the just the gentleman that just keeps talking. You guys you guys scroll up. I put it, put it way up. Oh, oh, further up. Okay. Let's see. Putting it in again, though. No. No. No. No. If you put it further up, I can go I can look at look for it. Give me the name over again. Yeah. Just I just put it in. Yeah. Just Send it back. Yeah. Just
[02:30:02] Unknown:
just just remember nationalstatus.com. It's very simple.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Good. Judy, you had put nationalstatus.info.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
That's that's correct either one. Either one. Oh, either way. Okay.
[02:30:15] Unknown:
Either way. Okay. Yeah.
[02:30:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll check that out as well. Good luck to you. Mhmm. Somebody was saying something.
[02:30:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Mirka and Brent, I wanted to comment on, the style of using the people. I use when I refer to the people, I state we the whole I state one of the whole peoples, plural, and peoples has a small p and I think it'd be an interesting discussion later on the actual wording of we the people. It's very important how those words are used and that's how I use it. We the whole peoples when I refer to myself as one a national in the state of Idaho, I yield.
[02:31:07] Unknown:
Oh, okay. But Mike Gaddy does expound on this on his in his, on his show. So I'll I'll get on there as well and, see what I can, conclude with. Hey, William.
[02:31:20] Unknown:
Yeah? William. Yeah. When when you go on Michael Gaddy's class, yeah. In the in the when he asked for any for comments or questions, ask him about that we the people.
[02:31:37] Unknown:
Oh, I will. Yeah. That's why I had this noted. Yeah.
[02:31:41] Unknown:
He'll tell you. Okay. Oh, okay. Have a good day.
[02:31:45] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:31:47] Unknown:
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[02:31:53] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction to the Radio Ranch
Platform Expansion and PeerTube
Freedom and Voluntary Choice
European Values and the Talmud
Historical Jurisprudence and Contracts
Mississippi's Tax Changes
Global Tariffs and Economic Impact
Argentina's German Influence
The Graf Spee and German Settlements
The Feudal System and Citizenship
Passports and Legal Personality
State Notification and Due Process
Jurisdiction and Allegiance
Joe's Legal Victory
Understanding Freedom and Legal Processes
AI Description of Previous Episode
Property Taxes and Legal Challenges
Discussion on Nationalism
Robert Barnes and Legal Advocacy
Immigration and National Identity
