In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles dives into a variety of topics, focusing on the importance of understanding the legal definitions and implications of citizenship and property. The discussion emphasizes the need for individuals to reclaim their rights and freedoms by understanding the legal frameworks that govern them. Roger shares insights into the feudal system and how it has been used to impose voluntary servitude on citizens, urging listeners to educate themselves and take action to regain their autonomy.
Throughout the episode, Roger engages with callers, addressing questions about the tax system, the concept of property, and the importance of local politics. He also discusses the influence of Zionism and the geopolitical dynamics involving Israel and the United States. The conversation touches on the complexities of global politics and the need for individuals to think critically and independently about the information they receive. Roger encourages listeners to become informed and active participants in shaping their own destinies.
In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sales dives into the intricacies of citizenship and the legal definitions that often go unnoticed. He discusses the importance of understanding the legal system and how it affects personal freedom, emphasizing the need for individuals to take control of their own legal status. The conversation touches on the historical context of the U.S. legal system, the concept of voluntary servitude, and the role of the Secretary of State in citizenship matters.
Additionally, the episode features a discussion on the geopolitical implications of U.S. foreign policy, particularly in relation to Israel. A video by Shahid Bolson is highlighted, which critiques the relationship between the U.S. and Israel, suggesting that the U.S. uses Israel as a policy tool rather than supporting its citizens' interests. The episode concludes with a call for listeners to educate themselves and take action to regain their personal freedoms.
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Well, we're gonna help one way or another. I don't know to the degree, but that's what we're here for is to help change the world, hopefully. In the next two hours, we'll take another stab at it. So here we are on the day after the fake April Fool's Day and, the April 2, and, it is the Radio Ranch you've tuned into somehow. I doubt that you stumbled into it, but you may have. And, Roger Sales, your host. Excuse me. And, we're assisted by a number of other, folks who help us extend our reach. The keeper of all these, extra planks or platforms, if you will, is mister Beaner, and we bring him on for to give them the proper credit and recognition for helping us. Don't we, Paul?
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seats. Your butt might as well be in one of them. Mhmm. Sure. We'd love to have you. Next week. We had some new folks yesterday. I'm assuming they're with us again today. William and Tony, are you guys with us? I hope. Maybe you're not in as much of a position as you were working out or driving or whatever you were doing yesterday. Anyway, we hope you're back with us today. William said he would be. We'll see. I also want to address the way the show ended yesterday with Boris giving me a bunch of crap. Boris, listen.
I'm here to teach people facts that wanna be free. I don't tell you to do it. If you want the answers, I'm a I have them duty bound to give them to you. I did encourage people to vote yesterday, but it was a state election in Wisconsin for a Supreme Court seat that might eventually be a pivot point for the whole congress. So, yes, I thought that was important. Nationals are really state citizens, and all politics is local. And I would think you and everybody else would wanna participate in your local politics political elections because those have a direct bearing on you.
And the third thing was my support and like of mister Trump. And, I know there are a lot of people who don't like him, and that's fine, but I don't understand really why. I mean, you know, the guy you were we're sitting at corruption corruption corruption. I was we're talking yesterday at lunch about corruption stops this and corruption. Well, you know, there's one thing, Mr. Crump, I don't believe you can even even glance in his direction on the word corruption. Okay? I mean, he's given for the whole four years he was in before, folks, whether you know it or not, he didn't take a penny for being president. He gave all that money to a family for, dead veterans, I believe is the thing. And I'm pretty sure he's doing it that way again. He doesn't need the money. In fact, he spent much of his personal fortune fighting these bastards.
I would ask any of you, have you ever seen the, interview that Trump did with, oh, I can't believe Oprah Winfrey about thirty five years ago. Paul, have you ever seen that?
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Yeah. Yeah. I've seen Snippets seven.
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I mean, the guy saying the same thing now he was saying thirty five years ago. Roger? Okay. He hadn't changed. Oh, just hold on a minute, Julie. He hadn't changed. Since he's been coming on the national scene, we've, we've had all the Russiagate Russiagate Russiagate crap, which all turned out to be lies. We had all two two impeachments in his last term. Okay. You got a a a a tribe of hyenas and jackals that are after this guy. If they could find one morsel of anything that they could use against him, you it'd been painted over every newscast every day for years. But in in two impeachments, I think it's five trials between that presidency and this, and they've never found a single thing on this guy, Julie. He's gotta be the cleanest guy in America. Who else could undergo that scrutiny?
Okay. He's a ultra successful businessman. He he yeah. Okay. He got started with a little kick start of $40,000,000. His dad left him. Look what he's parlayed that into. Okay? That's success. Okay? I look at, the the here's a guy that's ultra successful, and and he is not corrupt. Yeah. He's got some bad people associated with him. I'll agree with you on that. And but you don't know why. You don't know why if you're succumbing to them or if you've been influenced by Scofield dispensationalism. Hell, they use the Scofield Bible at the Southern Baptist Convention Teaching Center in Dallas.
So there's that influence all over the damn place of people who've been fooled on the word Israel and all that line of crap. So I I don't see how you can be so damn vindictive on somebody that's a pretty clean living guy. Hey. A guy's got five children. He calls every one of his children every day even though he's got all this on his back. K? So you can think what you want. Okay? But I admire somebody like that that will put everything aside to be and go through the crap they put him through for the last ten years just to try and lead the country out of the ditch, which he talked about thirty five years ago with Oprah Winfrey, Julie.
Okay? So now come and tell me about the CDC coins and the new world order. There's gonna be a new world order regardless. Okay? It's just like the Bible says. When when there's a good king, the people rejoice. When there's a bad king, the people moan. Alright? Well, we've been moaning for four years, and it looks to me like we've come out of the woods. Not totally. He still got those influences. And and and I would say to pray for him that he can see the Zionist corrupt bunch that he's, letting influence his administration so much. K? So, anyway, I like him. I'm not telling you to like him. You don't have to. I'm not telling you to go through and file paperwork. If you don't want to, you don't have to. It's everything's voluntary here, and I've got the right to like somebody if I like them with valid reasons behind them.
So okay. Now.
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Me next to doctor Julie.
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Yes. Hello? Okay. Roger, can you hear me? Yep. Yep. So, I mean, like I said, I'm not gonna I don't wanna argue with you, Roger, but, he took hundreds of millions of dollars from APAC and Trump, he himself is a Zionist. His whole family are Zionists. And so, I mean, I'm gonna yield. Like I said, you're a I agree.
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I agree with that. Yep. If somebody's running for president, they're gonna take anybody that's gonna give them money, generally. He also took a hundred million dollars from Sheldon Adelson's widow out there, Miriam Adelson, in Las Vegas. Her husband, now deceased, was a big supporter of Trump. Okay? Gave him the same He also Well, if somebody's gonna get you the Noahide laws. He also signed the Noahide laws, which are horrible. Those are super horrible. Well, guess what? They don't they don't apply to you.
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Right.
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Okay? That's true. That's true. Alright. So that doesn't make a jack shit to me. Okay? But Roger. You're you're saying just Larry, hold on a second, please. Yeah. You're saying, well, he's coming out with CDC's deep coins. Well, to me, he's floating potentially fifty year bonds backed partially by gold. All the gold in the world is rushing to America right now because it looks like he may be back in the currency by gold. That's not CBDCs.
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We're getting a new global current we're getting a new global currency reset for life. Have to. We're gonna have to because they've taken ours to the very end.
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There's too much debt. The debt service can't be serviced. Do you know that it costs more on the interest to this fraudulent debt than the defense department budget? They're spending money on the on defense.
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Roger, the whole world is bankrupt. It's the international bankrupt
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Come on.
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They've done this they've done this worldwide.
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You're not talking to Joe the schoolboy here. Okay?
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Oh, I know. I'm just telling you that it's not I understand all that. I understand why far more than most people.
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Okay? Right. I just like the guy. I'm a glass half full guy. I want hope. I understand the Bible. I've got faith. I'm not one of these stick your head and doom and gloom glass half empty people. That's just not the way I choose to live my life.
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I like them and joking.
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Well, there's all it sure seems like it to me. I I don't mind you bringing back those alright. I don't mind you bringing out those conflicts.
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There's this there's a difference between being a truther versus this has nothing to do with being optimistic or pessimistic. This has to do with the truth, and it has nothing to do with the last half hour.
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Well, you're telling me he's gonna put in CDC coins in every indication. Is he gonna do opposite, Julie? So how about that truth?
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We're going into a digital currency, Roger.
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Well, maybe not totally. Idea. You got well, you know, listen. Hold on, Julie. You're just getting out on a limb and saying stuff you can't back up.
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Okay? Oh, yeah. Because I promised you.
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Ecuador's on the dollar. They tried to float a CDC currency down here when Correa was in. The Ecuadorians wouldn't accept it. There's other countries on the dollar as long goddamn. Will you people at least talk, please? As long as these countries are on the dollar, they gotta keep printing them, Julie.
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Rogers, we're not going to have a CBDC because The United States doesn't have central banks. We have Federal Reserve Bank. So when Trump said no CBDC here, yeah, duh. The foreign countries have central banks. We have some reserve banks here.
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Sorry. We're going on a call. Federal Reserve, Julie. The Federal Reserve is a central bank. Yeah. Quit pissing on me and telling me it's raining. I don't buy it.
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Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm pissing on you.
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Mark, is Mark with us today? He's supposed to be. He's usually here on Wednesdays. Hell, he probably scared away from the microphone now.
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Oh, that's funny. You with us?
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I am. Hard. Okay. Hard. Anyway, I don't like seeing shows like that yesterday. We had a very positive show with two new students. And at the end of the show, Boris jumps in my shit on, though, I think we were off the air at that point, probably just in the back part of the show. No. We weren't. He said, well, you're telling her, you tell us to do vax a bit free and then you're telling us to vote and then you're telling us you like Trump. Yeah. I try and teach the people that wanna be free all this information. Let me ask you, where the hell else you're gonna get it? Where the hell else you're gonna get this information, kiddies?
You're not. You're on time. And I don't care whether you like Trump or not. I do. I admire people that are successful. He's very successful. Hell, he's just about my age. I hadn't accomplished anything like that. And, yes, I told you to vote in a state election, Wisconsin. It may determine the whole direction of our country, that little election in Wisconsin. You're national. That means you're a state citizen. Local politics apply to you. All politics is local. Yes. I told people to do that because they should. But don't jump in my crap about it.
Unless you got some kind of solid proof instead of whimsy, flimsical comments like that yesterday, Boris, because you were all wrong. Now, Larry.
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Yes. Roger, I agree with you that local politics are very important, and here's why. This just came out a couple of days ago in California. I'm kinda out of breath because I was helping a customer. But, anyway, it says California gubernatorial candidate says he'd abolish the state income tax. This was 03/28/2025. Citing a desire to, quote, restore the California dream for all, end quote, a Republican candidate in the 2026 race to become California's next governor says he'd eliminate the state's income tax if he elected. In a video posted to x, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said that he and his team would work immediately on abolishing the income tax for all Californians.
So what kind what national would be against, you know, the elimination of income tax? That's why our low our local, politics are very important.
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Well, all politics is local. Most of it, especially for us, because all that crap they're doing up there in DC, unless they pass a constitutional law, it's nothing they do applies to us. Because they take all those laws and they form them down to a regulatory agency, and they make little laws is what they're called. And they come out in there for the herd. They're for the serfs. Those don't have anything to do with us. But, yeah, the the the whether there's gonna be and I don't still know. I imagine that that gal Crawford probably won that yes, last night yesterday. The Dems were all behind it. The I was sitting across from a guy at lunch from Wisconsin, older guy, probably older than me. And he's he's a liberal, and he's going, oh, must spent millions of dollars. I said, hey. Pritzker and Soros spent over a hundred million dollars in that race, and Elon Musk comes up with two $1,000,000 checks, and you're raising all kinds of hell. Well, I I just don't understand these people.
But, you know, I don't understand a whole lot of things that are going along with people anymore because I they don't think they react. They're all brainwashed. There's so many lies out there. They don't know which one they're following. You can't hardly have a conversation that's grounded with them. And I just throw up my hands. I got I got a couple hours here on my show where I got some sanity, and then I get attacked yesterday.
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Hey, Ranche.
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Yes, Paul.
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Now that my microphone's working again, I think it dropped out. Yeah. I've I've got something to say about yesterday. First of all, we were still on the air. We were on Global Voice Network and and other platforms. And, yes, I did have to, stop the stream. I had to download the audio. I had to create generate the, transcript for the audio so I could search for things like f bombs and, like, the tirade that Bori did and then edit the audio and reupload it, regenerate the transcript, and then republish the program. So Thank you.
I finished that at about quarter after five yesterday. Now I don't mind getting up at 08:00 in the morning and starting to set up the show by 09:00 in the morning so people can start coming in by ten and we can do a show, and then I can wrap it up and finish up by maybe two in the afternoon. I don't mind doing that. It's a labor of love. But when I have to throw three more hours at it just to correct something that never should have happened, that kinda bothers me.
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Well, it bothers me too. That's why I'm talking about it today. I don't like ending on this on this situation like we did yesterday. This is about a month or six weeks ago, I had to do the same crap with Sketch, okay, about some stupid thing that I don't know any damn thing about. And it just escalated. He wouldn't let go. Okay? And it's just pointless. It's senseless. I teach what I teach for fourteen years. Well, more than that. But, on the air for fourteen years, not ever has one person came in and rebutted or or, anything I proved, anything I said was false here in these facts.
Okay? Yeah. That's just a track record that's pretty damn unblemished, folks. Yeah. Well If I wanna have my personal opinions, I can. I'm entitled to that. I'm free. If you don't like it, that's fine. You're entitled to that too. You're free too. But don't come in here and bust my ass on things I'm saying that are totally 100% legitimate.
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Well, it's okay. We get we all know we all know that the federal government does not apply to us, and the state government should apply to us. But we know that the state governments are political subdivisions of the federal government. They're both two sides of the same coin.
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But Well
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they still make decisions that affect us. The health of the currency.
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The the health of the currency. The coin. They're not the same side of the coin if you file an affidavit. Whether they recognize it or not, they're not.
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Well, we that's that's for us. But for everything else, there are two side there are two different sides of the same coin because there's the federal government and then there's the political subdivisions of the federal governments which are the state ofs. But the thing is, they make decisions. The monetary health, the economic health of the country, how much it costs you for a loaf of bread or a gallon of gasoline, all of that affects us. Now all of the elections appear to be state run elections, but they're run by the federal subdivision.
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They're run by the state. It's in the state constitutions. They turn over the electoral process to the state and to the state legislature. They write the laws for their state on how the election is is is is done.
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But every single one of those those politicians, they swore an oath to the constitution of The United States and to the constitution of the state of Florida. That's not Florida state. It's the state of Florida. It's the overlay. So the original republic states, the sovereign states, the states that we're citizens of, they're not populated. They're not seated. None of those bastards that are going to the capitals of every state in the country has anything to say about us because we come before them. We come above them. It goes from god to us to them.
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They don't like recognizing that either.
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No. They don't. But they still make decisions that affect us positively, negatively, or not at all.
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I've always told you that if you want to if you wanna affect something that is direct relation to you is local elections, local and state. You got to You don't wanna do that? I don't care. I don't care. I'm not telling you to do anything here.
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K? You gotta start in your neighborhood. You gotta start in your city, then you gotta start in your county, and you gotta get on board with the sheriff or you gotta get him on board with you. That's where it's coming from. I heard a guy call in,
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Corn Pop. I don't know if y'all listen to Infowars or not, but this guy calls in pretty prevalently. He was on Harrison show yesterday. Corn pop. Remember the comment from Biden about corn pop was a bad dude? Well, this guy's taken on that monitor corn pop. So he's up there. Now the, the principal of one of the high schools, I think, in Augusta, Maine, is refusing to recognize the federal law now about men and women's sports. And, unfortunately, he's the, he he he's the head of the state principals association. So he's affecting the other principals with this absolutely, illegal decision that they've got up there in in, Maine. There was a recent example of it. I don't remember what it was.
So, anyway, Corn Pop is on there going, well, I've I've gone out and I'm, like, I'm out knocking on doors to try and tell people about this, and I'm looking for help. You know? And here's a guy that realizes that's local. It's affecting federal, or at least interacting with federal, and he's out there with flyers knocking on doors and asking people to come help him. That's all politics is local right there. Yeah.
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Okay?
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So I don't care what you think of Trump. You can think he's a demon. I think he's a hell of a good guy to be admired. Has he got his flaws? Yeah. He's human. Who else would you want up there? You want Jesus back? You're gonna find somebody more unblemished than Trump? You better look for Jesus because they damn sure can't find the damn thing on him in five trials and two impeachments. And if they would have had anything on him, believe me, it would have been front page, capital letter news. You know who these people are. They're a pack of hyenas and jackals.
Okay? And boy are they after his ass. Even though he's, working with the other side of the Zionist line. K? So I'm sorry. That's my opinion. And, and those are the reasons, and that just upset me yesterday. I had it on my mind all afternoon, all evening, woke up with it on my mind this morning. I mean, coming from Bory, here's a guy that glommed into this somehow and got on the air about two years ago and said, I wanna publicly thank you for, because of you and the lack of income tax taken out of my checks, I've gone being able to gone go back to Puerto Rico and see my family for the first time. That's what Boris told the whole audience.
And then and then a couple years later, that's how he treats me yesterday.
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Yeah. I think it was the full moon yesterday. Waxing moon. So I like that. Mercury's in retrograde. Hell, who knows? Yeah. I Okay. Might be weird. Well, William, I also did I also did talk about, you know, believe in chicken and all that stuff. Maybe he went and listened and and looked at those two commercials. I hear you. They are absolutely positively demonic.
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Did you did you did you ever drive through Marietta when you were driving there?
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Oh, yeah. A few times. I did try to Have you ever heard? I tried to get to Georgia just because I had to go through Atlanta. I I totally understand that, especially if you're having to drive through the city there.
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But out in Marietta, there's a big deal. Anybody from Georgia will know. There's a there's a Kentucky fried rest chickens there that have forgot sixty, seventy years, I guess, has had this giant chicken built up, and it's called the Big Chicken. And everybody would well, where where is it? Well, it's it's two miles down the road from the Big Chicken. It's the landmark there in Marietta that everybody references. See? And so when you're saying the Big Chicken yesterday, I'll go, well, you've been to Marietta? Have you have you, Paul? Oh, man. But I'm not kidding you. Everybody in Marietta, if you're asking directions, it'll be well, at some direction, the big chicken will be in the answer somewhere.
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Yeah. And Roger. And I do wanna I do wanna share something quickly. If you have not seen those commercials, they are on YouTube. Don't bother going to look at them. I gave a very, very accurate description of what the commercials were about. I watched those, and I felt so icky after I watched them. I felt so icky and so heavy. It took four thirty two hertz music and sage smoke to get the ick out of my house.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Palo Santo. You need some Palo Santo in there to get it down. I apologize. Alright. Now there's there's Sketch trying to come in. Sketch, what have you got to add here to this discussion?
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Well, I just wanted to apologize to Paul or anybody else who saw that video. It was, something that you really can't unsee. But,
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Yeah.
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I do have, a few things to say about yesterday's show. There was somebody that came on that totally disrespected you and your wishes. And, you know who I'm talking about, I hope. He calls in very rarely from a bathroom.
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And Oh, Wahid.
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Yes. And you you have said, you know, please do not butt in. Please. Well, you can't. I need Wahid Wahid doesn't recognize those kind of, requests.
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Right. There's other people around here that don't do that either. And I get emails about it.
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Yes. And I think that's what started off some of the disrespect because he was not cut off like he should have been. And, that set the tone for the show, and I'm sorry that people are coming on here doing that, and I'm sorry I interrupted you guys about Well, I I
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listen. I'm sorry to have to spend the time on the program at the start of the program today going over this crap. We've been talking about it for over twenty minutes, almost thirty minutes. Okay? Right. And I'm sorry for that too, but I wanna get some of these things clarified. I don't want any misconceptions out there. I one of the things that our information does is it makes you think in specificity. You're probably thinking sharper now than you ever have in your lifetime because our information demands it. And then once you start doing it and get in a habit of doing it, then it goes over in the other part of your life. And you start thinking like that in all the kind of places. You know, one of my friends in Argentina down there, he go, well, we'll let let's let let let me listen to Roger and his razor sharp thinking. That was his definition.
And the reason that I can do that is because of this. That's what I'm teaching you guys to do indirectly.
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Yeah. Roger, I I call I think that you are a distiller of information down to its essence, and you make it simple. The complexities, you are a distiller of of the information, and you you present it as simply as you can. And and that's the benefit of you, and you definitely sharpen my thoughts just like you said. And I appreciate that so much. I do want to change the subject. There's other people before me Good. And I butted in. I wanted to bring up citizenship
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after everybody else makes their comments, so please come back. Alright. Okay. Well, I will. We'll put you on the back burners. Anybody else that wants to say something? William and Tony, I don't know if you guys have come back yesterday if you had to go through and listen to all that crap. I usually don't lose it, especially with students, but kinda did yesterday. So my apologies. But I just I I come on here. I get up earlier than I want to to come in here and give you two hours. I don't charge you a frigging penny, and then that's the kind of crap I get.
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Really? Roger, in a nutshell, what did he say? Did he just come at you with something? I I I missed all of that. Can't he Dan, I almost don't wanna rehash it. He came in. I've been talking about
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I've been talking about several things for just let's just not hash it. It's just there's no need for it, Dan. I'm glad I'm glad you weren't here. Came in. So you didn't have to get to us by this crap because I don't like losing my temper. Okay? But, man, I just get so fed up sometimes. You know, I don't know how to do this any better. I just don't know. I get on Jeff Rents. He's got I guess he's got millions of listeners. We haven't had one new student from two appearances on Jeff Rents. Excuse me?
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Yeah. That's strange, man.
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He may have noticed that. And I treasure each and every one of you, and I tell you that, and I tell you why. But will you go out and start talking to people about this stuff? You'll find out why real quick.
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I'm doing that. I'm talking all the time about it, and I get a lot of eye rolls. People don't know what to do, but I just stay at it. Yes. We don't need everyone. No. We just need Well, no. We need the ones that we'd in fact, we hardly need anyone. Barely 1% of us will get this job done. Ultimately, that's my estimate.
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Well, certainly, if we could get well, I'm shooting for 10. If we could get 30,000,000 people I to file these affidavits, they got big problems, folks. Now the other counter problem here is we're about to evidently change systems. We're not gonna have an internal revenue service. We're gonna have an external revenue service probably that polices these tariffs that went into effect yesterday, by the way. Okay? And and so we don't know if that whole oppression thing from the inside is gonna continue. Hopefully not. If Trump gets rid of the IRS, folks, Trump is a historical figure.
He he's a hundred years from now, Trump is gonna be written into the history books as one of the great historical figures. Like George Washington. Napoleon, etcetera, etcetera. Certainly of our country, if he gets rid of the IRS, he'll go down as the greatest president in the history of America just for that.
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Essentially. I don't know why people give people a hard time for digging Trump. He's fallible.
[00:32:38] Unknown:
So what? I'm so what? What do you tell me. Where is the guy okay. He he hangs around with all these Jews and they're influencing him, and they're they're doing stuff in his administration. They are. He doesn't even know about. He'll say he didn't get a kiss right there. He's gonna see that kiss. One of the reporters in a news conference the other day said, what about this girl at Tufts, that that got yanked off the street with mass CIA agents, look like? Hell, it could have been the damn facade for a she gets kidnapped off the street in America because she's a PhD or a PhD student, and she wrote an op ed, for for the Palestinians.
And they're kicking her out of the country. And yet we got murders and all these migrants and everything else going all over the country. I don't think they're even making a damn effort to try and find? Yeah. I don't like that. And he didn't know about it, Dan. The reporters said, ask him he said, I don't know anything about it, but I'll look into it. That's what he said. So these Zionists are taking a lot of liberties in his administration that he doesn't even know about.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
Yep. It's all the way around. He might even know some of it and realize that he serves two masters to some degree and has to play a game for a little while. He knows some. He doesn't know some. It doesn't matter. He'll get sick of it soon enough. And either way, we'll wait and see. Yep. Well, I'll tell you what you better do for mister Trump. You better pray for him.
[00:34:04] Unknown:
And I pray for him almost every night that I can remember to do it. K? So we better hope he does good. This better be a glass half full approach here because the glass half empty approach would
[00:34:18] Unknown:
I I think we've dodged a bullet on the on the glass half empty approach. People should build their spirit and allow themselves to feel that their cup runneth over. It's just let it runneth over for now. It doesn't matter what
[00:34:31] Unknown:
Well, now you got this faction splitting away, and now they've got to their core control, which is England, France, and Germany. K? And now they, because Trump is not supporting them, are starting their own northern NATO and putting their own troops in Ukraine. You can see where the bad guys are right here, folks.
[00:34:54] Unknown:
Tell me about it.
[00:34:56] Unknown:
Okay. I think the serenity prayer Wow. That's a good one too. Comes into play right now. Absolutely. Because there's a lot of stuff we can't change. We just gotta know the difference between what we can and what we can't.
[00:35:09] Unknown:
And the only thing you can change is you. That's why learning the information is so important. That's gonna change you. That though, as I've said before, Tony, I hope you and William are listening. I don't know if you are. I hope you are. Okay? But when this little deal we're in right here, when you file this paperwork, if you decide to do that, and we hope you do, but we're not gonna tell you or make you do it. When you file this paperwork, nothing changes. That your neighbors aren't gonna congratulate you. The cop is not gonna stop you and pull you over and say, hey. Good work on filing that affidavit. You're not gonna hear from the local DA with congratulations.
None of that's gonna happen. So if there's gonna be any change at all, guess where the change has gotta be? It's gotta be you. Yeah. It's the only possibility of any change is you. So the better you learn and have commands of the information, the freer you're gonna be and the better you're gonna be able to, a, defend your position if challenged, b, go out and explain to other people exactly what you've done and and how they may be interested. If you can't if you don't know the information, you can't do that. If you wanna learn the information, the surefire fastest way to do it is to go out and find people, start teaching it to them. You'll learn it quicker that way than any other way. You'll learn what you don't know, go back and brush up on it, strengthen up on it, and go find somebody else.
Okay? And then for the future, if this crashes, we've got to have this information available to rebuild where we don't leave these loopholes in there. That's the reason through all three of those things. And they're every one legitimate. But you've got to be the change here. The world is not gonna change. They don't give up flying ship high in transit. I'm telling you, I've been doing this for thirty something years.
[00:37:15] Unknown:
No. They really don't. And about rebutability, I have yet to find anything on your affidavit I can rebut down to its simplest form, and I have tried. Think you didn't find anything in anything I teach. It's unrebuttable, Roger. It's ironclad it is. With the rebuttal. The proof is The proof is they recognize it. Know.
[00:37:35] Unknown:
And people have got passports with it. And let me tell you what, folks. If you don't know it, you thought the CIA was bad and the FBI, maybe the postal inspectors are even worse. But let me tell you what, these passport people, they take fraud very seriously. And there's never been one instance of anything but a bluff letter from these people making sure that you what? Know your stuff. They're testing you to make sure you know your stuff. Now whether Annavon Wright students and David Strait and all these other people out there when they get those, I don't know what they do because I don't think those people do know what they're doing, quite frankly. K?
Regardless, we strictly
[00:38:21] Unknown:
a David Strait person or an Anavon rights person. Once you're one of those people, you you automatically branch out to be the other people like me. I'm both of those people once upon a time, but I couldn't say that. Well, we get refugees.
[00:38:32] Unknown:
We get good refugees like Julie and Dan and others. You know? There's other people that you you get curious, you stumble on the web. I don't have a high profile on the web necessarily, but those people do. They're in The States. They're out there. Ianna's writing all the time and building her assemblies. David Strait is going around the city to city and fleecing people about as much as he can, as quick as he can. So I don't know too much about those people. I'm down here in South America. I'm in South America for almost seventeen years, and you better be damn glad I'm down here because it was when that voice came to me and said, you need to get out, and it came twice.
And I finally very reluctantly went to the post office to go get a passport form because I was like you. I was scared of interfacing with the federal government too. And when I got home and put my feet on the desk and started reading that DS 11, right there at the top of the very first page is the damn answer I've been looking for for over fifteen years. So you better get what was that? Glad I I asked it out of there and moved down here because that's where I found the answer. Paul?
[00:39:46] Unknown:
I'm straight.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
Well, I thought you were I'm good. I'm just listening to you, man.
[00:39:52] Unknown:
Okay. Well, anyway, our is William and Tony with us today? Now they said they'd be back, and I don't want them to be driven off by all that bullshit yesterday. Are you guys with us today, or have you found something else to do? Y'all following another guru? That's what Ron Brown, my buddy Ron Brown called us. There's somebody. Is that William or Tony?
[00:40:14] Unknown:
Yeah. This this no. This is William. This is William. Yeah. I no. I'm I'm here. You know, give me the website again. I I didn't get the website, yesterday, because my hands were I'm dealing with some stuff.
[00:40:25] Unknown:
Alright. Are you ready to describe Yes. Now? Vmatrixdocs.com. V matrix docs. It doesn't matter how you spell docs. All roads lead to Rome here. The matrix.
[00:40:45] Unknown:
Well, it's .com. It does I'll hold it. It's DOCS or DOX. Don't spell it DOCKS unless you have a fishing plate. Please don't be the one Yeah.
[00:40:57] Unknown:
I I spelled D O C S.
[00:41:00] Unknown:
Okay. Now, William, when you get over there Yeah. There's a section called a new student section. It's got a line around that square or rectangle. And there, the the the for new people, the interviews we recommend are in there. And there's another really important piece in there by a guy named doctor Gene Schroeder. He's, still with us. He's a veterinarian out in Eastern Colorado, and he and nine other researchers, I believe, back in the nineties, just about this time, '94, completed a research program. It's called the War Emergency Powers Act.
Paul has gone through. We got a copy of that and improved the audio because it was a little shaky. And somewhere in your studies here, you need to listen and watch that video. It's called War and Emergency Powers Act. That validates what we're doing here, and it shows you what they did legally behind the scenes at the turn of the fir last century to set this up. You may or may not have seen, but in the trials that I was alluding to earlier against mister Trump, the five of them by people that weren't even qualified were not Jack Smith's a Jew who changed his name. He was working as a prosecutor at the world, the the world court. They brought him back over here. He wasn't approved by congress, and he wasn't approved by the president, yet he had all these suits going on. That's the kind of crap that was going on. Okay?
But during that period of time, Trump made a comment. And he said, they're trying to charge me with a 1917 piece of legislation about espionage. That's what that is all about, The War and Emergency Powers Act. Now what they did, William, in 1917 was they wrote a piece of legislation called the War and Emergency Powers Act, and they named the Germans as the enemy who we were fighting in World War one. In 1933, when they pulled the switch and changed the systems, they brought that piece of legislation forward, and they took out Germans and put in citizens of The United States.
So since 1933, slave citizens of The United States have been declared the enemy by the federal government.
[00:43:38] Unknown:
Hey, Raj? Yes. One quick point of clarification. In the new students page, underneath your picture, there is the phrase, so let's begin. To know how to fix the problem, you first have to know what happened. Yep. Doctor James Schroeder explains the trading with the enemy act and what it means to you.
[00:44:01] Unknown:
Yep. It's a it's a fantastic it's a fantastic piece of work, and some of those people are dead now. And that has long been forgotten. I was familiar with it because it came out right after I got into this within a couple of years. And we're on the air one day talking, it comes up, and all this has subsequently come about. Paul's improved the audio. We've had a small conference call with doctor Schroeder. I hope we can have another one. But he gets pretty busy in the spring. He's got still working. He's got a ranch and cattle, and he's a veterinarian and all that stuff. So hopefully, we'll be able to talk to him again. He's a damn great American.
Okay? And what doctor Schroeder didn't know at the end of that opus, and he says all we need is a president to come in and sign away and and take away the War and Emergency Powers Act, and everything's gone. And he's right. But you see what Gene Schroeder didn't know was what we do. Because we do that same thing, but we don't have to wait for Trump to do it or whoever's in that office. We can do this individually. And if we get enough of us to do this individually, folks, we're a force. We're a force to be contended with. They're scared as hell of this. They got no defense except to take the mask off. They're in checkmate.
They don't like it. And, William, that's why you've never heard my name. They won't put my name out for nothing. So I'm glad you came back today, William.
[00:45:36] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's trading with me. Muted?
[00:45:39] Unknown:
No. It's listed as the trading with the enemy act. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. We've got a we have a bunch of lines that are unmuted, and there's background noise and stuff. If you're not talking, press star six and mute your line. Because the more lines that we have open on the conference,
[00:45:58] Unknown:
the more difficult it is to find No. Where a noise is coming from. Oh, good point. Good point. Okay. Well, William, since you've had about twenty four hours to noodle on our conversation yesterday, we didn't drive you away. That's good. Do you have any questions or comments at this point? What do you do for a living? Are you a Bitcoin miner like pretty?
[00:46:19] Unknown:
No. No. I ain't Bitcoin media like pretty. I I I have a credit restoration, a credit repair business.
[00:46:25] Unknown:
I see. Okay.
[00:46:27] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I haven't had a chance. I wanted to have more, input today, but I didn't get a chance to look at the site, the, site yesterday. So I'd I'd, you know, I'm gonna take a look at the site tonight. And as you know, when when you say you keep saying student, what what is the student thing about? What what is this?
[00:46:44] Unknown:
Well, I did you know any of this stuff before you got tuned in yesterday? Well, I haven't looked at your website. I mean, I'm very unfamiliar with a lot of stuff, but I just haven't looked at your website. That's why I said I wasn't able to get a call on it. But when you say Maybe maybe maybe when you go in and do that, you'll understand why I call students because these people don't know any of this stuff. I wouldn't have known any of these things were it not that I had John Benson as my law teacher thirty something years ago.
Now let me tell you, William. I'm gonna evidence it for you what kind of a thin thread we're on right here. K? These guys here's what happened. John had been researching law his whole life, his adult life. He loved the law. And he was a civil service, employee, and he got in in with contracts. So he got particularly interested in contract law. And then he got particularly particularly interested in tax law, which was his bailiwick for the rest of his life. Okay? You're gonna hear some of their information on Saturday if you come around. Okay? And so he had been writing all these things and studying all this stuff. And if John would have died back then, all this would have been in his closet and would have gotten thrown away.
Fortunately for us, he got attended a traffic seminar in Bullhead City, Arizona. He had he had one of his students who was an airline pilot with United and could get him free tickets. So he got him a buddy pass to go down to this thing on traffic in Bullhead City, and he met the other guy, Glenn Ambor, who my other teacher who's still with us. William, you ever heard of Roger Staubach?
[00:48:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just I've been using my phone. That's why it told me why to answer stuff. Yeah. They're pulling back.
[00:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, my my other teacher, Glenn, tutored him through Annapolis to the Heisman Trophy in an NFL career. Okay? So that was his bailiwick. So these two met at this seminar, and and Glenn, after getting his arm around what John had, this revocation of election thing, he said we can make a business out of this. And so he formed and they got a business made where they were going around the country and teaching for tax law all this stuff that you're gonna hear on Saturday if you listen. Okay? And so what they did in essence was they hadn't had too many meetings, a few. But at the start, they took all their information, and they sent it all to Philadelphia Service Center of the IRS, which at that time dealt with all nonresident alien returns.
And they said, listen. This is what we're gonna be teaching. We're going around the country having seminars. And if you wanna send any of your agents, if they'll show us their ID, we'll let them not only let them in for free, but we'll give them free class materials. And the IRS wrote them back and said, thank you very much. We're gonna turn this over to the education department, which they did. Because shortly thereafter, the education department showed in and kicked their door in and held them on the floor with glocks at their heads for eight hours. Three offices.
Okay? Now the IRS does not move that let me rephrase that. The federal government or any part of it does not move that quick on anything. And this was thirty five years ago. About. K? So, anyway, they're, going around the country after they did that, before they got raided. They're going around the country, and I was just fortunate enough to have a Russian Jew. You don't know this, Dan. A Russian Jew named named Stan Bravi who became very close with us, one of the most amazing men I've ever met. And Stan, because he had been Russian, and he's Jewish, he knew all this stuff. So when we got onto the line on taxes, he's going every time he'd hear, there was a tax meeting. Roger. Roger. There's a tax meeting in town. I go, who is it? Who is it? He goes, I don't know. It's some guy named Benson. Well, I thought it was Bill Benson who wrote The Law That Never Was.
And so I couldn't wait to get over there and see the guy. And it turns out it was this guy, John Benson, and his pal, Glenn. And they went in there for a weekend seminar that had everybody in the room's head spinning just like some of you that stumble into here and get all this for for the first time. Your head's spinning too. Okay? And so I didn't know anything right or wrong. I just knew there was something of great substance there that really moved me. And I decided to go ahead and pay them and not ask for the money back and go through the process. So at that point, there was about let's just say for round numbers, William, there's about 300,000,000 people in the country. That's thirty five years ago. Okay?
Well, at that point, I was one of a few people out of 300,000,000 that had been exposed to this information. And it was only a couple of months later when they raided them and shut the whole thing down in essence. And out of that 300,000,000, I was one person, and I'm the only one. In the time they were teaching, they had 1,200 students, 12 hundred paid students to file this paperwork and be exposed to this stuff. And at that time, after the raid, I was the only one out of those 1,200 that took this further. And look what I found.
That's the chance that you got this information. You out of three fifty million, somehow get turned on to a message from a guy that was one out of 300,000,000 that took this damn information further or none of us would know it. So that's what you're dealing with.
[00:52:42] Unknown:
Now let me oh, okay. Good. Now why why are you out of the country? Are you do you do that by choice? Or
[00:52:48] Unknown:
No. By choice. You know, I was a air force brat, and our, you know, and my dad was an officer. He was a jet jet jockey. And, everybody who's, an officer in the military gets an overseas assignment once in their career. Well, our overseas assignment was an Alaska and Anchorage. Funny, I had two guys from Alaska at the table with me eating lunch yesterday. One of them lived in Homer, Alaska for, I don't know, eight or ten years, which is one of the most beautiful spots I have ever seen on this globe is Homer, Alaska. Okay? So, anyway, we got stationed up there, so that was considered our overseas assignment. And all my friends were all, you know, air force kids, and they would talk about Spain and Japan and Europe and Germany and all these places they'd lived, and I never got to live there. And I was always jealous and always wanted to kinda live outside the country.
Then what happened to William was the feds after they raided John and Glenn, they came up with them. Well, what happened was John got out in they're in Salt Lake. John got out and started running for senator against Orrin Hatch, and Glenn went out running for whoever the representative spot was, and they get out on the campaign trail and start teaching all this tax stuff. Well, they couldn't wait to get them off the street. Okay? So they came after him in in in court, not for anything here, but forever. Now Glenn had 90 charges against him. Not one of them had to do with this. Okay? So they were after them to get them off the street. Alright? And there's another thing. I'm the only one that took it further. Well, they did. They ended up sending them to jail for fifteen and a half years. Glenn for nine and a half or nine and John for about six at 70 years old in bad health, and they sent him to one of the only federal facilities in the whole system that doesn't have air conditioning in Petersburg, Virginia.
Now what happened, Glenn was sent to Minnesota to have minimum security in Upper Minnesota, and he's a very spiritual guy, even more so now. And he wanted to get into this spiritual, some kind of a preacher program or something that BOP was offering. And so here's where the fickle finger of fate comes in. Some bureaucrat at the Bureau of Prisons got that request and brings up all the the facilities that teach that spiritual program, and they send him to the very same facility that John's in in Petersburg, Virginia. So now they're reunited, and they've got, like, four years there to go out every day and talk about all this tax stuff that they kinda had exposure to already but didn't have firmed up. And it was in that four years that the book that they've got on taxes was written.
Okay? And I was coordinating with them all the time. I'm a pretty good typist because my father made me take typing in high school. And I could type 65 words a minute when I was in high school. Okay? So they didn't have access to a typewriter, and so they would write out everything they were coming up with, send it to me in the mail. I would then type it up and send it back to them. Okay? So they were in that position for a while. And, all that has led up to where we are right now, man. So I consider John Benson I consider John Benson my second father.
My first father gave me physical life, but John Benson with his teachings here gave me a life that I could never even dream of. And now I get to have a lot of you people who I know don't know this stuff because attorneys don't even know it because they don't teach it in law schools anymore. They've been in control of America's law schools for a hundred years. I can prove it. And that means they influence curriculum. And they've gone back and brushed a lot of this stuff out of the law book curriculum, law school curriculum. That's why you can go to any of these lawyers and ask them one simple question, William. What's the legal concept behind the word person?
And you I doubt if you'll find any that know that. Now statutes are written for persons, things, or actions, and the majority of them were written for persons. Well, if that lawyer, that judge doesn't know that, how the hell are they supposed to determine what kind of person you are? For God's sakes, it's elementary. So that's what we're gonna expose you to, and that's why I know you don't know it. I know you've never been exposed to it. And that's why if you choose to, you'll be a student. So that's why I refer to you like that. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:57:52] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Okay. I got I got you. So yeah. Because, I like I said, I've been around for a while, and I've dealt with a lot of different, no. Okay. Alright. I'm in the grocery stores. Excuse me. So I'm here I'm here, and then we've talked to Yusefel, Jonah Bay. You've been familiar with them, Yousefel or Jonah Bay? Nope. No. Not the Moors. No. Those are the Moors. Those are the Moors. Those are more in the in the black nationalist perspective. Okay? And so we've dealt with them for a number of years, but everybody I've come in contact with over the oh, I'm sorry.
[00:58:22] Unknown:
Well, just hold on for a second. Don't forget what you're doing. You can keep your place, but we gotta say goodbye to the folks here for a second. We'll be right back. Gotcha. We can continue. Okay? So, Paul, if you would, please.
[00:58:34] Unknown:
We've got to say goodbye to radiosoapbox.com. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com, clicking on either the Global Voice Radio or Euro Folk Radio links, or just go to your browser and type in eurofolkradio.com. Pick us up right after the top of the hour. Thank you for joining us, and we'll catch you right back here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Alright. Thank you, Paul. Okay, William.
[00:59:03] Unknown:
Now about the Moors, that's the last thing I remember.
[00:59:07] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So we we, myself and Tony, we like, you know, I said like I said, I started back in 1998, and I went through some various groups then. Like, a lot of them, I can't even remember. But, since we've been dealing with we dealt with the Moors, and the Moors had a pretty good program for for for black nationalism, which I'm all for. I'm I'm all for black nationalism, and I'm I support white nationalism. So I'm not against and just being black nationalism doesn't mean we're against white nationalism. We wanna work with you all because we have a lot of common ground that we can work together on.
So but every time we come in contact with new people I mean, we we meet Tony had the call that he does, and we bring a lot of people, what we call the nationalist movement, the the UCC movement, everybody on to share their strategies with us. Even Tony, we got the one the the the black Indian. What's his name? Chief something. And he was he he kinda spoke like you.
[01:00:00] Unknown:
Oh, what? Like Elijah?
[01:00:02] Unknown:
No. No. Tony Tony probably knows the name because that was Tony's hero. But, you know, they they act like they're some fucking god, and then we we just spoke to bow out to them that they know every damn thing. Right. I'm not Yeah. I'm not guy said, I don't give a fuck about oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. I don't get Land. Sorry about that. We don't
[01:00:20] Unknown:
We got Yeah. Do I I try and keep the language clean here. So Gotcha. Give
[01:00:26] Unknown:
me a Okay. The f bombs. Sorry about that.
[01:00:29] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[01:00:32] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I thought I mean, I thought there was some people saying some stuff like that yesterday, but I can work here. Maybe I'm free to express myself in a subjective way. But, anyway, so we've dealt with a lot of different people, and everybody says they're the way. And, you know, it's, they're the only way, and everybody else is discarded. And I say that, look. Everybody's fighting against the system. Maybe people got different strategies, but everybody's fighting against the system, and we all need to figure out a way to work together to do this because, Oh, I agree. Conquer and divide is one of the attack yeah. Conquer and divide, to me, is one of the tactics that they've successfully that we've allowed them to successfully use.
They've used it for and other conquerors have for a long time. It's nothing new. Well, I like you to be aware they as much because it's us that are the problem. We, the people, are the problem because we're not standing up and doing what we're supposed to do.
[01:01:26] Unknown:
Well, wait. Well well and you can't unless you know what we know because you're not free to be able to do that unless you've gone through this process. You see, here's the big Right. I mean, that's what everybody's William, here's the big piece that everybody's missing. This is the feudal system. They don't understand that. You hear people refer to it as neo feudal. You keep people say, well, they're trying to move us into the feudal system. William, we've been in Babylonian captivity for ninety two years, since March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. That's why that trading with the enemy act is so important because they prove that.
K? I can prove it too. They just prove it from another angle. Alright? And so until we get people to understand that, when you know it's the feudal system, the remedy is simple. Okay. Well, you don't have to know much about the feudal system to know there's only two types of serfs. There was an involuntary serf, which was much akin to black slavery in our country, and there was a voluntary serf where you could volunteer in and out. Well, guess what? Voluntary servitude's legal in the constitution. It's lawful too. The thirteenth amendment says neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist in the state unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime.
Well, what's left out? Voluntary servitude. So voluntary servitude, according to the thirteenth amendment, which was lawfully ratified, is legal by omission. Because they didn't expressly outlaw it, then it's considered legal, which it has to be because everything has to be voluntary. So if you volunteer to go into some type of bondage, well, that's your decision, and that's okay. They also say, and I think in the fourth amendment, that they can impair your ability to contract. Well, that action of selling yourself into bondservant is a contract, and they can't impair that. So voluntary servitude is lawful in the constitution in two places, isn't it?
Okay. Well, there's a voluntary servitude. That's what it's gotta be because it's lawful in the constitution. So that means you can volunteer out at any time. So send them a damn affidavit and volunteer out. Take away your permission. You've erroneously given them throughout your lifetime every time they ask you those questions. Okay? And then you got but here's the other tricky part, and even my teachers. This is what I found. I've I didn't like I hate the tax movement. I hate all that tax crap. Okay? But
[01:04:08] Unknown:
I moved on I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm going. I'm I'm move I moved on to jurisdiction.
[01:04:15] Unknown:
Okay? I moved out of tax and moved over to jurisdiction. In other words, what gives that unelected bureaucrat the power to make a man made law called a regulation and impose it and enforce it on me. What gives him that power? Well, that's what we got. And the because it's the feudal system, what people don't know is how you get out of it. Because the secretary of state is the lord of the federal manner that has to do with all issues involving citizenship. Period. K. That's the secretary of state or the attorney general of Florida wrote me that in a letter.
The attorney SOS, secretary of state, has complete authority over all ALL matters concerning citizenship. What does that mean? Well, that means he's the lord of the manor, the federal manor that deals with citizenship. So what does that tell us? That tells us we send our affidavit to him because he's the person responsible for letting us out. And then after you send it to him, you go over and apply for a passport if you're eligible, and you get the highest form of government issued ID in your name, and your the affidavit is attached to and tied to your new status. And many of our folks here, that's the only ID they carry is their passport card.
[01:05:39] Unknown:
Roger, question.
[01:05:41] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:05:45] Unknown:
Would doing a novation of of contract be any useful in your mind to the government, whether it's state or or federal, stating the that you essentially what different different definitions are in your life?
[01:06:06] Unknown:
What now you're gonna have to clarify me. I don't know I don't remember what a novation of contract is. What is that? So
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novation is essentially essentially what I kinda described. Just a it's a essentially, like, a dictionary of terms to the contract. These are the terms that I'm agreeing to, not essentially your terms, but these are the terms as I see them. What a national is. What a
[01:06:33] Unknown:
What they know believe me. They know what one is. So you don't really have to do that if you want to. I'm not gonna tell you not to. But they know they know I've got that two paragraph affidavit. There's no wiggle room in that thing. Have you looked at
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it? Yes. This is Carl of Utah, c I f. Carl, there's no wiggle room there.
[01:06:55] Unknown:
And and and you're thinking it's all these other contracts, like your marriage license and all these other things that you're innovating? Yeah. Same with driver's license. Okay. Well, what you're oh, well, hold on. When you do this, it exposes their fraud. And that negates all of those contracts because they're all based on fraud. Keep it simple, Carl. Don't complicate it. It works.
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K?
[01:07:23] Unknown:
Now if you wanna do that, you go do that. It's alright. But they know what the hell's going on when they receive these letters. Believe me. The clerk might not, but the people behind them do, as evidenced by what happened with, Jerry back about a year ago. You've heard us tell that story. Right? Jerry sends in his paperwork, gets his passport, and then a couple about a month or two later, he does it for his wife. Well, they're getting ready to go on a vacation to Florida for a week with friends, and all of a sudden, the somebody from the passport office calls his wife. And she says, well, I'm in a meeting. Can you call back in fifteen minutes so she could turn it over to Jerry?
And so that happened. And so the guy on the phone says, listen. Your wife's born in Syracuse, New York. She's obviously a citizen of The United States, and we can't issue her a passport, as a national. She's a citizen of The United States. Well, Jerry and him get into this discussion, and Jerry asked him a couple. He says, well, first of all, who am I talking with? And the guy says Hilton. Okay. Maybe that was Pink, the guy from Chicago that owns the Hilton chain. I don't know. Anyway, you wouldn't give him his full name. And, he also said, can I, what's the which is another thing I teach you guys? Anytime you get in these situations, your one of your questions is, what's the next step in my administrative appeal?
And so Jerry says, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? And the guy goes, I'm the last step. Well, that tells you right there it's bullshit because they're not gonna have the ultimate guy in the administrative appeal process calling somebody on the phone and trying to BS them. Okay? So it was nothing but a bluff call. Alright? And somewhere in that call, Hilton told Jerry, he said, you really know your stuff. This is why you need to know it, William. I don't know if this is gonna happen to you, but these kind of things occasionally happen. And the guy at the passport office told good student Jerry, you really know your stuff.
Thank you for the compliment. Okay? And so he goes, well, we can't do this. Do you want me to send the package with the check and everything back to you or what? And he goes, yeah. Go ahead. And we'll and he's thinking in his mind, well, we'll approach this another way because he knows something's wrong. Okay? So they go off to Florida down there by you, go out on one of those islands for a week, and, come back to New York, cold and snowy. And, lo and behold, in the mailbox is the passport card and the passport book she paid for. It was all a bluff.
They can't stop you from doing this. You've got the power. You just don't know it or recognize it because they've stifled it your whole life with SWAT teams and all this other crap. Oh, no. They've got all this power. You gave it to them. Take it away. This is your power they've stolen. It's like I said, I don't know how biblical you are, William. But if you remember Esau Edom, Jacob and Esau, and and and he traded away his birthright because he was first Esau, and he traded away his birthright for a bowl of porridge. Well, they figured out a way to trick you into giving it back to him. That's what's going on here in the big, big picture.
Take it back. It's your power. You're gonna let them steal it from you? You don't like them anymore than I do. You're gonna let them steal it from you? I hope not, William.
[01:11:06] Unknown:
Okay. I mean, I'm I keep wanting to try to respond, but I got it on mute. I wanna make sure you get your your point out. So that's why that's why I give you delayed response here. Okay. Well, great. Well, I'm talking to questions. Okay. You got any questions or comments on that? No. I'm I'm in the Unity with pretty much everything you're saying here. I just wanna go look at the website and everything. Okay. Well, then I want you to And, I want you to listen to
[01:11:29] Unknown:
I want you to listen to a couple of interviews, and I want you to watch that doctor Eugene Schroeder trading with the enemy act. I there all of the ones that are over there in the new student section are good. There are just a couple of these interviews that are better than others for one reason or another. Okay. And one of the ones I'm gonna ask you to look at first is entitled God's Trump Card.
[01:11:52] Unknown:
K? God's Trump Card. Say it again, say it. Say it. God No. Trump Card.
[01:11:56] Unknown:
Trump card. Not referring to our current president. Okay?
[01:12:01] Unknown:
Okay. Pretty women. Hey. My and my hands are I I I pretty right you are you writing that stuff down? Because I'll contact you later and get that information from you. I can't tell you right now.
[01:12:11] Unknown:
Did you call William last night? Did you get a chance to call William Larry? I know you got his phone number yesterday. No. He didn't he didn't get a chance to. I I know I'm a swan, though, too. We're working.
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Okay. Well Well, not yet, but I I will.
[01:12:23] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Larry likes to work with he likes to work with new students too, and he's very pretty knowledgeable, very knowledgeable, and will help you out a lot. Okay? So Oh, okay. But you're but you guys are gonna and first thing you're probably gonna to do is unlearn a bunch of the stuff that you've been exposed to. Because they're just a bunch of stuff in the patriot community that's just absolute total hogwash. That's all cap letters, bold fringe on the flag, all that hatred garbage. It's garbage. Don't get it out of your mind.
I'll replace it with the real stuff that's real that's actionable that will help you. And if you, if you don't I'll tell you what, William. If you don't like it, I've got an ironclad double your money back, no questions asked guarantee.
[01:13:21] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. I I got I can check to see if my phone is on unmuted.
[01:13:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I said if it doesn't matter, I've got if you don't like it, I've got a double your money back, ironclad, no questions asked guarantee. And you know what that's worth? Nothing. What's that? Because I don't because I don't charge you.
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Alright.
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You're gonna pay me. You're gonna pay me, but you're not gonna pay me with fines. You're gonna pay me with budgets. You're gonna pay me with learning this information and helping others to be exposed to it. That's how you pay me.
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And, let me just say, can you hear me?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah. And see, every and I done deal with a lot of different people, but every group says the same thing that you just said to me, that they the ultimate. They got, you know, they got that's why I look I look at stuff over. I'll make I'll make a decision. Alright. Okay. Well, I'm gonna do. You know? Do do any of those groups have a fourteen year track record with not one single blemish in
[01:14:25] Unknown:
in interacting with the federal government with these types of concepts and ideas and paperwork?
[01:14:30] Unknown:
Do any of them have a Well, you don't know because the people you you don't know. You don't know. They can tell you anything. They can tell you anything. I don't listen to that. I don't give a I don't give a crap about anybody's track record. I but if it works for me, then that's what that's what that's what's fine for me if it works for me. Alright. Well, you know, people do that. Exaggerate. That's what we found. A lot of people do that.
[01:14:50] Unknown:
Of course, they do. They're trying to get get money out of your pocket at some place. You don't have to believe me. I don't care if you do or not. I don't really care if you go through with this right now. The reason for that Right. Right. Is because my duty is to give people like you an opportunity to let you know you've got a choice that you never knew you had before that works. And if you wanna take that, that's fine. But I'm working off of the prophecy in the Old Testament called the watchman on the wall. Are you familiar with that, William? It says, if you're a watchman on the wall, we all are, if you see danger coming and you don't tell your fellow man, then the blood's on your hands.
But if you tell him and he doesn't do anything about it about Bluetooth. Then the blood's on their hands. Okay.
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That's what I do. Went out. I'm sorry.
[01:15:43] Unknown:
Okay. I'm sorry. My Bluetooth went out. Alright. Well, anyway, I was telling you my motivations here, William, and it's not financial. Oh, okay. It's due I'm duty bound here because for whatever reason, God chose to expose me to these men and learn this lesson. I tried to give it off to a whole bunch of other people. Nobody wanted it, and nobody can understand it. And at some point, I said, okay. It's gotta be you. Because it's super important, and it's gotta be out there. This is world changing, potentially life changing information.
It's incredibly important. It's incredibly accurate, and you'll be exposed to concepts that nobody in your whole time in the patriot movement has ever exposed you to before.
[01:16:31] Unknown:
Interesting. Yes. And so you don't know much about the black boys then? Like, you don't know about much about them them and their strategies?
[01:16:37] Unknown:
Well, I I mean, I know they think Jesus is black and all that stuff. I've never really put much time. Oh, no. No. No. That's nonsense. That's all that nonsense. I'm talking about but they're they're they're they're stuck with the paperwork and nationality and things of that nature. No. No. But I can tell you this. Unless they filed it with the secretary of state, it didn't do any good. Yeah. He's the only guy. They do. They they do.
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Yeah. Okay. Yep. Tell, say some? Can I say something real quick? Yeah.
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Let me meet on my
[01:17:08] Unknown:
hold on, William. Waiheed? What? They got all these guys charging thousands of dollars at these conventions, and you can go get all that stuff right here with Roger Sales. The guys online with all the conventions, and they gotta I'll be hearing those guys every day on these different conventions. Come to my web convention. Oh, man. That what's that other one? Dave David Strainer, Strainer, Strainer, Strainer, whatever. Straight. Straight and all these characters. And them other ones, Rice and right. What is the name? Rice? Anyway,
[01:17:46] Unknown:
yeah. Just, get the book and Rice McCloud? You talking about Rice McCloud?
[01:17:51] Unknown:
It's some woman. It's a lot of these people. You could just get all that right here. You know?
[01:17:57] Unknown:
But don't spend money on these conventions and all that mess. I ain't saying no wait hold on. I ain't saying about going no damn convention. I'm sorry
[01:18:08] Unknown:
Yeah, that that's a mess.
[01:18:10] Unknown:
I'm gonna start now either
[01:18:12] Unknown:
Okay. I've done all that. I've seen these conventions and things like that. That's a waste of time. Glad you found us. You know where the information is. You go do your own evaluation and make your own decision. Okay? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I've never I've never in all the years I've been doing this told anybody to do this. It's your choice Right. Because your freedom is your choice exactly like your spirituality. And it's not up to me to influence that. It's I I can probably urge you to do it, you know, and all that kind of stuff. I can give you the advantage of it, etcetera, etcetera. But I've never told anybody. Never once.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
That's right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Well, yeah, I I'd like to tell you. I'll look over everything, and, and I'll be I've I've been getting all the calls for sure. And, like, do you say the the Saturday call is a good call?
[01:19:04] Unknown:
Well, this Saturday this Saturday, because of the timing of the year that we're in April, I'm gonna go back and give you all my teachers are the experts in the world on the tax system. K? Mhmm. I'll explain why that happened on Saturday, but I'm gonna explain the whole background of the tax system that we're in. That we're not anymore, but most people are in. And, hopefully, we're getting out of it. What year do you think that started, William?
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Oh, with the tax system? Yeah. Under under civil war with the Lincoln.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
How about December in England?
[01:19:52] Unknown:
Oh, well, no. He actually they probably done it well before that in ancient Egypt.
[01:19:57] Unknown:
Well, yes. But the specific one we're under started in December in England. I'll tell you what it was, how it operated Oh, go ahead. The doc came about and how they've taken the information and moved it over across the pond and changed a few labels and names, and now they're applying it on us. So that's what I'm gonna explain everything there to you on Saturday.
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You got it. Okay. Alright. No problem. Great. Looking forward to that. What time on Saturday?
[01:20:27] Unknown:
Same time. We're we're very we try and be very good customer. Same time.
[01:20:31] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Thank you. Question? Now you yes. There's Annette. Yes, Annette. What do you got, baby? Let me mute up. Well well, no. Mute, William. I got a I have a question for you. Oh, let me unmute again. Okay. I just unmute it. Okay. Go ahead.
[01:20:46] Unknown:
You said that, well, it kind of the question came to me. Have you have you found Remini? Have you not have you or have you not found Remini
[01:20:57] Unknown:
with the ones that you've been listening to? Because it sounds like you've been listening to some doctors for a while. I yield. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I yeah. I was discharging that. I was doing a lot of different things. Like, yesterday, I told you about the OID that I I Mhmm. Was successful in getting a hundred 65,000 from the IRS because they've been ripping us off. So I've I've had some hits and misses over the years. My whole my whole objective here is that I'm I'm fighting against the corrupt banking system and corrupt government, and I'm uniting with people of this of the same like mindset. Okay? Whatever paperwork you use, if it's successful on all four, and if it ain't, just discard it. Let's get on with the business of overthrowing a corrupt banking system and government. Okay. Alright. What we want you to do is understand what you're doing and understand why you're doing it. K? So it's not just give me $500.
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I'm gonna give you the magic sentence. Okay? It's not like that. Oh, yeah. Because when something's like that, here's here's what happens, William. I'm $500 richer. You're $500 poorer. You've paid somebody to do this to you, so you're not gonna go study, are you? Because you paid somebody to do it. Right? Well, guess what? Then nothing changes.
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Because you Oh, yeah. We, yeah, we don't learn yeah. I ain't paying nobody in fifteen years to do any of this stuff, though. I everything that you can do, I can do.
[01:22:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, good for you. I ain't looking to pay nobody nothing. Yeah. I hope I hope this really pisses you and Tony off. K?
[01:22:26] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
I I I truly do. Because and you should be because the black community has been used to enslave the world. They not only enslaved you and brought you out of Africa, and that was them that did it, paid about $20
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a piece
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$20 a piece and sold you for 2,000 and up. There's a little return on investment for you. It's pretty good. Okay? Then they've given you people. Yeah. Black people in this slavery condition of involuntary servitude, and they've given you a new position where they tell you you're free, and hidden under that is the feudal system where they have a property right in you. It's just different. Uh-huh. And now they've used you to enslave all of us.
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I I have I have one more question. Mhmm. What what specifically are you looking to do with banking? Are you looking to, are you looking just strictly to, be a part of, be a part without, well, let's see. I guess I guess what what particular can you be more specific what you're looking for in banking? I guess I could ask. I yield.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
That's that's a that's a real that's a real wide open question there. I mean, the bottom line is I know what the the banks I know what the banks what what we're allowing the banks to do, and we just need to bring a pure form of monetary system that's gonna represent all the people, not just a specific view. Yeah. So I'm speaking in generalities right now. Yes. Yes. Do you realize that what we're talking about, our stuff here,
[01:24:06] Unknown:
you are at the base of the credit system. You've heard the saying there's no money, there's only credit. This is the case of the credit system. When you're born into this system and they issue a birth certificate, that birth certificate acts in two ways. It identifies you and all your vitals as your birth, And underneath it, they're using it as a commercial document called a warehouse receipt. Are you familiar with warehouse receipt?
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Do you know about that? I'm familiar with what you're saying too. We just we just had a different name for it back then, straw man, and things like that. Right. Right. Right. Man, that's not right. You're not a straw man. It's a slave.
[01:24:46] Unknown:
You're you're a servitude. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. I I agree. I'm just saying that's the verbiage that they use, but you're not a slave. It's not a slave. I understand. Well, then they take that birth certificate now using it as a warehouse receipt. We've got proof of this from a hospital in Austin, Texas who told us the whole procedure on issuing a birth certificate, and it fits right in with our thesis. They put it when the birth certificate is generated at the Bureau of Vital Statistics, it's put into an armed bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours a day, seven days a week because it represents you.
Now they take that birth certificate and they attach it to the bonds that they're going to issue. Isn't bond the root word of bondage? Mhmm. Yeah. Makes sense to me. Uh-huh. When they attach it to the birth certificate, now they're selling bonds five years, ten years, twenty years, thirty years. Trump's proposing a fifty year one next year. Okay? And the taxes are extracted to pay the coupon payments on the debt on the bonds to the bondholder, which is the first step of the entire credit system. The whole banking system is built off that right there.
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Yeah.
[01:26:09] Unknown:
Broad and deception. You participate in the in your bible in your bible, which is why people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.
[01:26:16] Unknown:
It gets worse. Agree with that. Worse. Do you know what do you know about loans from banks? Now you this is an area you got some specialty in. Brad's gonna be done. Confused. All good.
[01:26:25] Unknown:
Okay. Do you know that banks don't loan you money? You know that. Right? But yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. I know all that. Come on.
[01:26:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just meeting you. No. Yeah. I know. I mean, as I tell you, I've been around for a long time. We've done a lot of this stuff. Yeah. We've done a lot of different lanes and things like that as well. So every loan in in and I found out in the world because it's the same thing down here. Every loan in the world through these people is a fraud because they don't loan you money. You give them your signature on a promissory note that creates it.
[01:26:58] Unknown:
Yeah. So that's why I say the the bigger problem is us. Our our compliance with all this nonsense, we could set up and say, look what they're doing, but we're participating. No. I I We're helping them do what they do.
[01:27:09] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's our mandate is to learn this stuff, be able to internalize it where we really understand it, and go help inform the world about what's going on. That's what I consider doing here. Okay?
[01:27:21] Unknown:
Excellent. Yeah. That way you won't have people telling you that you could buy a Rolls Royce with a SyskV trust fund. Please. Please. Send me $500 and I'll and I'll send me $500 send me $500 and I'll teach you how to get a Rolls Royce with your SyskV trully.
[01:27:41] Unknown:
Go back in the bathroom, please. Go tell him. Tell him, Stache.
[01:27:54] Unknown:
Yes. Hello. You said.
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Please please, mitch,
[01:27:59] Unknown:
the other guy. So because your phone is really scratchy and your Oh, let me mute let me mute my probably my background. Yeah. It might be mine. Yeah.
[01:28:09] Unknown:
Well, he Okay. We have certain,
[01:28:12] Unknown:
kind Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's me. I'm here. He's trying to tell he's trying to tell you why he needs to listen. You got two ears and one mouth. What does that tell you?
[01:28:22] Unknown:
We we try and respect Roger. We just don't interrupt Roger. We try and, call on Roger, and he'll call your name while he you just don't interrupt the show. You destroy the flow of the show with your interruptions. I don't know if you're self aware of that. But if you're gonna add to the show, you need to wait your turn, please. Because it's it's it's just, it's kind of about respect.
[01:28:53] Unknown:
Well, it's also know. It's also a distraction, and it causes confusion. And these are some of the things we've tried to straighten out, but Wahid wasn't coming around when we were doing that. So he may not know all this stuff in Wahid's defense. Okay? So, Wahid Yeah. You got some hey, Roger. Don't just butt in and start talking, please. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot to say, hey, Roger. Yeah. I know you did. So does everybody else knows it too. So try and remember next time.
[01:29:22] Unknown:
Please, Wahid. And I would like to circle back to, citizenship.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
And Yeah. You were on wanting to know something about forty five minutes ago, weren't you?
[01:29:33] Unknown:
Well, I I I wanna know what your views on. You live down in, down in Ecuador. And if you had the chance to give up your citizenship of The US, I don't know if you're ever coming back here. I don't know if you're ever coming back here.
[01:29:50] Unknown:
Well, I doubt it, but I might. I I doubt it, but I might. Why would I do that? Why would I give up my citizenship? So I I wanna talk about the commoditization
[01:29:59] Unknown:
of citizenship. We have something now called the golden passport. Okay? Where somebody can buy their citizenship. Yeah. $5,000,000
[01:30:10] Unknown:
or something. Right. Yeah. It's $5,000,000.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Yes. And, the concept of selling your citizenship
[01:30:19] Unknown:
Who's your country's would the world do that?
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Would you sell your citizenship in The US for $5,000,000?
[01:30:26] Unknown:
Well, that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about some foreigner who doesn't have any grounding I understand. That can come over and stroke them 5 mil and get this passport. We're not the only country to do that. There's all kinds of countries that do that. Some of them are a quarter of a million dollars. Some of them are a hundred thousand dollars. They're in The Caribbean. They're in Europe. There are other places I probably don't even know about. So Right. Why would I I wouldn't be selling my passport. They'd be selling a passport to somebody that's newly being naturalized,
[01:30:59] Unknown:
first of all. It was a hypothetical question. If you could sell your citizenship for 5,000,000, would you?
[01:31:07] Unknown:
Well, I don't think I would. I because I don't care about the money, and I do care about this. And let me explain to William and Tony why this is so damned important, at least to me, because there's only been two countries in the whole history of our world with organized societies where men had god given rights. That was the first two hundred years of Rome and about the first two hundred years of our country. I think that's pretty damn special, and I don't put a monetary value on that. Stretch and sketch, nor would I. Okay? Now that may not be important to you, but it's damned important to me.
[01:31:42] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's fine. I was just asking if you'd sell your citizenship for $5,000,000 because I understand that isn't the process now. But
[01:31:53] Unknown:
just think if you had the power to sell your citizenship, if you wanted to move somewhere and not return to The United States and not have the protections of The United. I don't have to come back to The United States. I probably never will. I don't have any real reason to come back unless our information really takes off, and I come back on some nationwide tour. We're about I go to six or seven big cities and have, meetings where people could come meet me and say hello and listen to the thing and bring people and all that. But I just I can't you get on one of the hypothetical things that nobody hypothetical thing. Well, sure it is. I can't sell my passport for $5,000,000,000,000.
[01:32:39] Unknown:
For 5,000,000? Billion? Well, what I'm pretty much concept was that
[01:32:43] Unknown:
there's a golden passport that is commodifying citizenship. Would you agree with that?
[01:32:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. But not for Amer would they yes. Well, no. It's not. But it's not for me. It doesn't include me in that.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
It's for foreigners. Oh, I I agree. I agree. Well, then it's hypothetical. And I'm, yes, and I'm trying to make a concept here. Okay. So we get we live in a box that we get information from as far as The United States and all the laws. That is in a box, and that box is being torn apart. Okay? So do you think that we should think outside the box, or should we we just remain in the box that is being torn apart?
[01:33:27] Unknown:
Well, why do you wanna come up with these hypothetical questions that you know are hypothetical?
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Let let me ask a question real quick. Roger, do you believe that a foreigner should be able to buy citizenship in The US for $5,000,000? Do you think they should be able to do it?
[01:33:44] Unknown:
I understand the concept. I I I've never even thought about it quite frankly. And I understand why countries would do that. You get a quick 5 mil. All you gotta do is let somebody in and naturalize them. Hell, that what they don't know is that they're coming in and being slaves coming into the dam. They paid $5,000,000 to be a damn slave.
[01:34:06] Unknown:
So in the end analysis, the only thing that we can be sure of is that, number one, money cannot buy happiness, but number two, it might be able to buy you the kind of misery you could live with for a while. Well, but happiness can buy you the When you guys are
[01:34:21] Unknown:
Go ahead, Wahi.
[01:34:24] Unknown:
Okay. Earlier, there was a break between you and William. Is that that's the guy Tony that's, talking out, a new guy, Tony? Yeah. Tony and Will. Willie's the new guy. Oh, Tony and Will. But, when you and Will had a break in your conversation, I made a joke about the SESK eBay Trust.
[01:34:49] Unknown:
That's all I was trying to do, make a little lighthearted joke. Then please don't bring that crap up around here. That has caused a lot of people to bring their shit a bunch of shit. And I don't know anybody that's ever collected on it. It makes me so damn aggravated. All this Patriot crap. I'm trying to get that out of your head for god's sakes.
[01:35:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I was making a joke about it saying, I figured out a way to get a Rolls Royce. Send me $500, and I'll show you how.
[01:35:20] Unknown:
Fuck you. Not necessary. Thanks anyways,
[01:35:24] Unknown:
But no Back in the bathroom, Mike.
[01:35:27] Unknown:
I wanna continue my thought on the box that we go back into when we're dealing with this information. And we're at the precipice. Go ahead. Go ahead. Please don't what? Say anything more? I don't Don't take us out to Pluto, man.
[01:35:42] Unknown:
You say, what do I think about something that's an impossibility? And then you say it's not hypothetical. Why do you wanna lead us on these rabbit trails?
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I'm I'm trying to think about the future that we're at the precipice of big changes. Yep. Okay. Fine. That's fine. You don't wanna talk about it. Will you would you Hey, Roger. No. No. God. There's that sketch.
[01:36:10] Unknown:
No. I'll talk about things that are real. You wanna come in here and prophesize and hypothesize on things that aren't real, and we're gonna get into some long discussion and waste a bunch of time and probably get aggravated on something that not outside the box. It isn't even feasible.
[01:36:29] Unknown:
Okay. So so so the the golden passport is real. Right?
[01:36:34] Unknown:
That's correct. You got five trill. Okay. So
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Chinese. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Would you would you agree with this this this statement? The concept idea of citizenship is nothing but compartmentalization for the purposes of making domination and oppression more manageable.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
I got nothing. I got nothing. IU times. IU. Thank you.
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Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger.
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Yes.
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I I want I yesterday, I sent, Mirka on her Mirka might be there. I don't know. But I sent her and I could ask this question of you also about David Knight, Alex Jones' sidekick. Remember him?
[01:37:26] Unknown:
I do. David Knight.
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He's got his own podcast
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now. I know.
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And what do you think of it? He seems to have not he's not at all in bed with, Alex.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
I haven't watched his podcast since he split. I remember him being very professional. Something happened between him and Alex. What the hell has that got to do with us
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in this discussion? No. I was just I sent that to Merka, his podcaster. Her, webs her webs what her Telegram Telegram group. In in her Telegram group, and she she put at the bottom, it's she put w t h, and I was wondering if I that was offensive or she didn't like him, or I don't know what her why her response was that way.
[01:38:19] Unknown:
Well, I can weigh in on that. Maybe her response was that because that that podcast has absolutely nothing to do with anything that we're doing, and why are you Why are you asking you her to go on the record?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I need some No. No. No. I I didn't.
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You come out with more left field crap, Wahid, than I think anybody else we've got around here, quite frankly. Roger.
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And I don't think he's in the box. I don't even think he's out of the box. I think he's so far away from the box. He can't even see the damn box. I think I think he's running from that damn pit bull that that guy released on him at the donut shop. Pepper. Oh, yeah. That's how you and I that's how you and I met with the pet bull. It was the pet bull well, I had two incidents to where I had to go to court. The pet bull the jury duty. Remember, the second one that they had on me, and they haven't sent me it's been over a year. They haven't asked me to do any more of that since I put everybody on notice.
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They probably know you'd get thrown out of the jury pool right off.
[01:39:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I put everybody on notice. I sent the notices out. Me and Paul worked on that for, like, three or four hours.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
Alright. Well, Abe, let me go to Larry here. Larry had something to inject, and Larry's usually pretty grounded. Larry, what do you got usually? What do you got, Larry?
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Okay. Like to get back to the previous subjects.
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Please. Listen to that.
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Yeah. So do you believe a lot of these students and patriots that are coming up with all of this stuff that, supposedly, Trump did. Was that during his first administration
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when he probably was a little bit more naive about things and Well, you know, he wouldn't probably he was. Did what? Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:40:13] Unknown:
Well, I mean, like like, a lot of the things that Julie brought up, earlier, was a lot of that stuff done during his first administration in your opinion?
[01:40:23] Unknown:
Well, what can you refresh my memory on what some of those things are?
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FASB 56.
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Yeah. I don't think he I don't think he did that. It may have been done underneath him. I don't think he I just evidenced you. There's all kinds of stuff going on he's not aware of, folks.
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Larry, you can hang up to her brother. Oh, oh, why? He's got
[01:40:53] Unknown:
Swear, I'm gonna just leave, folks. If you can't follow the rules, you're you're gonna do without me because I'm tired of it. Go ahead, Larry.
[01:41:03] Unknown:
Yeah. He signed all this money over to someone, and, of course, there's the Noahide laws that he signed and this, that, and the other thing. Well, that was George Bush. I don't know that he I don't know that Trump did that. I do know George Bush senior did it. Okay? I mean, yeah, I don't I don't know if Trump did any of this either. It all it's all new to me every time I hear this stuff. But, anyway, then the second thing is yesterday when, when William and Tony called up, one of the first things that Tony, asked was, you know, could we ever get a lodial title to property?
And, I I was wanting you to elaborate on that a little bit more. Wow.
[01:41:47] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Alright. I'll tell you what I called him yesterday. I've known one the two people that have gotten a lodeo title to their property. One's out in Oregon. He was a student of Al Attisk, and the other was the late Chris Cave who got that on a peace property in Northern Arizona. I I it's not my Ballywick. I don't wanna own any land. I don't wanna own anything. Okay? So if you guys wanna own your land, I understand that's there. There's people that have been trying to do that successfully for a long time. Our own Samuel here has been trying to do it in his county up there in Placerville for how many years? Samuel, ten years?
He'd been trying to do it. Other people are doing it. I don't know anybody that's ever done it successfully, and it doesn't apply to me personally because I don't want any. So, it that's about all I know about it, Larry. It's one of the peripheral off of what we do. And as of my knowledge yet, we've never had anybody in our circle that successfully accomplished it. Does that mean it can't be accomplished? Probably not. But I don't know. I mean, I've told you. Ask me anything. If I don't know, I'll tell you. I don't know.
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Right. That's that's not the direction I wanted you to elaborate on. So to answer his question, I was wondering if you could elaborate on how, just like Eugene Schroeder teaches, all of all the mortgages were seized in 1933. The state assumes ownership of all the property, and so all we ever get is a certificate of ownership. And then you could elaborate on, how property can't own property, and that's the reason why we get a certificate of ownership. And that property is not really a a, you know, a thing. It's a right to and for a thing. Well, that's what I was gonna say. You think William
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of even knows the definition of proper properly a property? William, do you know the definition of property? Are you still with us, William? I had to unmute. No. Yeah. I'm still here. I'm just muted out. Anyway, I'm in a noisy area. Alright. Well, if I was to say what's the legal definition of property, what would you tell me?
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You're talking to William? Yeah. You're talking to William? No. Oh, I I don't know why you're I'm like you. I'm not I don't care about that owning your land and stuff. I'm like you on it. But go ahead.
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Alright. Well, it it doesn't matter. What we're talking about now is the word property. Do you understand the definition that's being imputed to the word property? Because there's two different definitions. There's one we use among ourselves. And if I said, is this Tony or William I'm talking to? It's William. Right?
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William. I don't know
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I don't know your voices. I don't know your voices. I don't know your I think Tony's still there. Yeah. Okay. Well, good. Well, if I said, William Yeah. You got a nice car out there that's paid for. And you go, yeah. And I say, well, William, is that car your property? And you'd say, yeah. And everybody on this call would know what we're talking about. But in law, that's not right. Property in in law, property, the thing is the car. And the property right is a right in into the thing. So it's different. So that there's a colloquial definition, and then there's a highly technical definition.
They do everything on two levels, just like that. So if you don't know that's the real definition of property, and I tell you the federal government has made you property, and when in the morning when you go in to shave or brush your teeth or whatever the hell you're doing in front of that mirror, you look at yourself and go, I can't that can't be right. I'm not property. Because they don't understand the legal definition of it. It's a right in and to a thing. It's property. Property is a right. It's not a thing. Capisce?
So these are the things that I'm gonna teach you that I don't think you've ever been exposed to that before, have you?
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Okay. Why don't you keep asking me quick? I got my phone muted. I'm sorry. Well, don't well, I'm muted. Alright. Well, I'm gonna No. I'm gonna annoy the area. I'm gonna annoy you. I'm gonna annoy the area.
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Oh, okay. Well, anyway, if you haven't known that definition of property, that's the legal definition they're imputing in it. So can you see how we're, they were double minded, William. And in James one, eight, back there in the New Testament, it says a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. And that's why I told you that he went the the for doing this to you in your mind and enslaving you. And once you learn that and start working on it, then you get exposed to what they've done, and you understand it better because you know their techniques. So that's the whole reason. There's nothing we do around here that doesn't have a reason behind it.
K? So, Larry, did that cover what you wanted to cover me to cover with William?
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Yeah. Perfect.
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Okay. Hey, Roger. Let make you know, the the the forward to your book,
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the some people will get like me confused about David Strait, the one that No. I can't help that. Kent? I can't help it. My David Strait There's two David Strait. Before I even know that this other charlatan existed. Okay? And I'm sorry. My friend David Strait would be rolling in his grave if he knew that somebody with his same name was out being a p a y triad and feeding people all this shit so they could get their damn money. Because that's exactly what he's doing that I know of. Yes, Annette.
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Just to let everyone know that, that wants to look it up, David Strait, your, your friend, his obituary is online. So if they wanna confirm that that there's two David Strait, they can do that, Aiel.
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Yes. And he owned a company called Eagle's Nest Home. He was a complete self made millionaire. K? He used to own a company with a partner named Lincoln Log Homes. Some of you remember that. Okay? And then he got in. He designed his own prefab home, and he exported those things to 16 different countries. And he was the only manufacturer of prefabricated homes in the world that could import into Germany because their import standards were so strict. K? He was a hell of a guy. We talked every Sunday, and I miss him tremendously all these years later. K? I'm sorry. I'm sorry they had the same name. I'm sorry this charlatan that's running around charging people absorbent amounts of money for stuff that didn't write has the same name as he does. It upsets me, but not a damn thing I can do about it. I think I added a note in the book that it's not the same guy. Yes, Joan?
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What years was, your your David Strait doing those,
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manufactured homes Do you all fit overseas? Oh, well, you can probably I don't know if it's up anymore. His company is called Eagle Nest Homes. You probably got some of them down there in Costa Rica. He he he manufactured what looks like a round home. Well, he did all kinds, but the specialty was, and it's eight sided. It was called a roundhouse. And those things are incredibly, incredibly effective in hurricanes. There had been several hurricanes where he had those houses built, one above Denver, where I think the wind was a 50 miles an hour or something up there over the they had that structure built and had the FAA FAA facility up there. Well, it was the only thing that survived those winds. It's a big hurricane that came through one of the Caribbean Islands. The only thing standing on the island was his homes because they're kind of round and the wind goes around them. It doesn't just blow it down.
But he was a hell of a guy who one of the finest men I've ever met, and I miss him badly. He's a dear friend. Do you remember what year he was doing those manufactured homes? Well, yeah. It was in the nineties and the eighties back in then.
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Thank you.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Roger. Can I say something? You you what those people that those charlatan type people that wanna offer, they don't accept the c c v k trust fund. They won't wait for that money to come through. The ones that they want you to pay them cash. Right. They don't know much. Right. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get Don't run while he runs. Get him. Get him.
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Drop ins. That's pretty good, Paul. Okay. We got a couple of minutes left in the show. Not many. It's been another challenging show. I'm sorry to say, but it has been. I don't want them to be. I like them to be real nice. Do people come in? They got questions. We can explain it to them, help them understand what's going on here. Yes, ma'am. Was that Annette again?
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I'm sorry for interrupting you. I didn't mean to step on you. That's okay. Yes. I think your friend died, 02/2012. Probably. If I remember yeah. Okay. I yield.
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Yeah. Great guy. Just a great guy. A lot of what we know now here that I know was rehearsed at his house on Thursday nights because I'd go out there every Thursday night at a beautiful home out in Canton, Georgia, and and we'd cook dinner and and then sit there till the wee hours of the night talking this stuff out, and he always played devil's advocate. He loved to play devil's advocate. And a lot of the answers in the early days came from those sessions right there. That's why I allowed him to write the forward. He was chomping at the bit to write the forward. We had to edit it down from 21 pages to eight.
Great guy. I'm sure I sure do miss him. So alright. Who else has got something here at the end of the show today? Constructive, maybe. Roger? Everybody.
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Do you have any respect for Catherine Ochsner, Fitz?
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Do I have any respect or regrets? Respect. Oh, a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I know I got she. I've I've got a ton of respect for her. I think she's wonderful. I wish she get exposed to our information, but she hadn't gone on going to it yet.
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Right. She was I watched the video, and she's she's she did mention that the only way I can protect my freedom is to get you free. So she's Oh, okay. On board, but she doesn't go yet. This was a video yesterday. And, she mentioned, which I sent you a Andy Scheckman
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Yeah. I watched it. About
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Short. About, yeah, about
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Lot of technical stuff in it. The treasury
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and stable coin. And and Catherine Austin Pitts says that they are going to use the stable coin to basically through the treasury to get around the CBD. And the if the if the if the treasury did the CBD, the central bank digital currency, Congress would have control. And Catherine also pitched yesterday said that they're gonna if this is implemented, the stable coin will get around congress's control of the money supply. Also, she mentioned the 21,000,000,000,000 that, did more. And and isn't it funny that Doge isn't going after that money? That's 21,000,000,000,000, and he's and they're just talking about 1,000,000,000,000.
[01:54:05] Unknown:
Well, what they're interesting Well, I think that they not even I think that they gotta do this a little bit at a time in some orderly manner. That was years ago. They're attacking stuff that they're getting at right now, like USAID. Understood. So I'd like to think that when that get they get the plate clean, should they ever get it clean enough that they'd be back looking and talking to mister Skidmore about that. Or they're doing a Doge thing on the Pentagon, aren't they? I think they're already doing that or they've announced one. Well, that's where all that came from was the defense department, the Pentagon.
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Right. I'm just saying it I think it's funny that they're not even mentioning it, you know, that there is this $21,000,000,000,000.
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I mean, I can't
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just put yourself in one of their positions up there and getting all this stuff dumped in your lap. And people go, why haven't you done this yet? Why haven't you arrested people? Why haven't you this or that? By the way, Elon Musk made an announcement last night that they have uncovered the generals who are running this the the the Tesla crap, and they've turned them all the information over to Pam Bondi. So let's see if something happens. Yeah. Hey, Raj. Pam. They got so much crap on their more thing. On their blade sketch. How the hell do they even say grace over it? For God's sake. I understand. Well, I'm not sure you do or you wouldn't ask the question.
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Go ahead. One more one more thing. Catherine also fits brought the FASB, legislation to my to my attention. And she says that it was passed during the Kavanaugh hearing by both houses or the senate, both parties, and it was signed by president Trump. Now do you know what FASB 56
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is about? It's a second set of books. I know that. And I can't imagine them I can't imagine them passing a bill in the senate. It had to go through the house first for them to pass that in the hearings on Kavanaugh to sit on the Supreme Court. You're saying they passed that at the same time? Those are two totally different issues, Sketch.
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No. The the Kavanaugh's was a distraction
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while they passed it. Oh, okay. I got you. And it was signed by president Trump. I I don't know anything about that. I know how to tell people to get out of federal slavery. No. I understand. You think that I'm the great Karnak, but I'm not.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Karnak the magnificent. Hey, Rog? Hey, Roger. Roget. What do you think of general hate no. No. No. No. No. No. I was first. Rog, I think I'd what they're going after Excuse me. I I like to think of it as the boy sticking the finger in the dike. That comes first. Then you start refilling the reservoir. But you gotta plug the dike. They're dealing with stuff that pending payments and and current payments. They're dealing with stopping a hemorrhage.
[01:57:27] Unknown:
What they're trying to do is keep the country on the edge of solvency, maybe, if they can. Mhmm. Because otherwise, it's going over the cliff, folks.
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Yep. Absolutely. Roger. And we're at the end of the program, sir, Wahid. Hang on just a second, and we'll catch you at the end. Mark, same to you, I guess. Unless is there one word to answer?
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Real quick. Yeah. I just wanna tell, Waheed that learning the information is not about learning the information that's distracting, and that's what he's sharing.
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I don't know why he thinks I'm Carnac the Magnificent, man. I'm supposed to know every damn thing in the universe, for God's sakes. I know about how to get you free and hopefully help keep you free from the oppressive federal government that you've been tricked into giving your your your body to. I try to help you out of that. That's my expertise. Yes. Who had something else? Roger.
[01:58:28] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Roger, what's what's the name of your book, and is it hard copy?
[01:58:34] Unknown:
Right. No. You can't get it right now. No. It's not offerable. Hopefully, it will be soon. Sovereign to serve government by the treachery and deception of words is the title. But the whole damn thing is screwed up out of the bit book patch, and that's where we are. There isn't one available now. I'm sorry to say.
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Might be able to find a you Let us know.
[01:58:59] Unknown:
I can borrow I can borrow a package. Ebook. I gave it to Jeff Rentz to put on his website two weeks ago. You can find it over there for free. It's all over the web for ebook, but I can't help you with a with a hardback. Rent. Okay. Rentz, r e n s e dot com.
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You finally got a hold of Rentz?
[01:59:22] Unknown:
You finally were able to talk to Jeff Rens? And I was on his show twice, Waiheb, in the last couple of weeks. Oh my goodness.
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We talked about that last year. Guess what? Guess what, Waiheb?
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We didn't get one person coming to the show from those two appearances on million plus audiences, not one. Ask them, Wahid. Is there anybody in the audience from the Jeff French show? Crickets.
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Mhmm. K?
[01:59:53] Unknown:
I don't think those folks were awake. There may be a bunch of them, but I don't know what the problem is. I didn't have a real chance to talk about our show or anything else, and Rince put put didn't put our information website in. He put Dave and Kaye's website up on the website. So I I don't know. K? But I do know that not one person came from two hours on the Jeff Rint Show, Waebe. That's very true. At this at some point That was
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one of the questions I asked you. I you you said, I can't get on his show. Ask him. Don't ask me. Ask you. Ask Jeff Rint.
[02:00:28] Unknown:
I I finally got on. You got we got a good email address. Bunch of you wrote him emails, and he came back and invited me on the show. He loved the first show. He invited me back, and I got the impression he didn't like the second so so much. I don't know why. I don't really care. Evidently, his audience did not take anything we said seriously, so I had two two appearances on the Jeff French show.
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Mhmm. Roger.
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Larry.
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure, when I was listening to the first show, as soon as you got off the show, they went right into talking about aliens.
[02:01:08] Unknown:
Well, I mean, that's Jeff's orientation. I told you all that. He's always been that way. He doesn't think there's a remedy here. He's not spiritual, so he doesn't believe any biblical ending and any relief there. So I guess that's the way he's oriented, and god go do that. I don't care. Hey, Larry. I want people that are interested in our information. You know if they're interested, don't you, Larry, when you present this to somebody?
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Oh, absolutely. Yes, Paul. The email address that actually got Roger on the show was sightings, as in UFO sightings, at mind spring dot com.
[02:01:50] Unknown:
Yeah. He's a big UFO guy, and he's a real contrarian. Remember when he got on and panned the damn, you know, I carry one for all that? That'll kill you. I said, well, nobody in our audience has died from it. So some of his ideas are wacky. I thought that his audience would be open to the message. Boy, was I wrong. Okay. I can accept it. I'm gonna go find somebody who will wants to listen. Okay. So the next target, Waiheed, the next target is Infowars. What do you got, Joan?
[02:02:26] Unknown:
I heard, Jeff Rent, one time say that he thinks that the fake dude the fake dues are, aliens. That that's why they're so weird. That's why they're so Oh, yeah. Not right not right.
[02:02:43] Unknown:
Would would Nephilim fit in that as aliens? Because that's what I think they are.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
I mean, I don't know. But I just remember Jeff Ritz said that back around the time you were right before you went on.
[02:02:58] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it could be. If that's his belief, great. I don't disagree with him. I think they're the Nephilim. If but he's had no biblical orientation. Jeff doesn't that I've ever really seen very much.
[02:03:13] Unknown:
Roger. Hi, Roger. The the, prison planet, Jeff, Alex Jones, I think you'd have better luck with the youngster. What's his name? The other cohost.
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Oh, I think the other one or or or Harrison really is the one that I think would really who would listen. He listens. The others talk. K? Now listen. Y'all have aggravated me for about two damn hours now, and I'm leaving. Okay? So you you you aggravate each other for a while.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
Have a good day, Roger.
[02:03:45] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll see y'all tomorrow. And, you know, some of you some of your minds are unbelievable. Alright. I'll see you tomorrow.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Very fruitful. Fruitful minds that lead to confusing conversations, I guess. Thanks, Raj. And
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poof. Okay. I could Paul Paul Paul. I could Paul, I couldn't think of the young guy's name. The young guy on Alex Jones. The one cohost. What's his guy's name?
[02:04:20] Unknown:
Why don't you take a look on their site and find out?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Hey. Hey. Hey. How's it going? I haven't heard from him, and, the
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Owen Shroyer.
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I don't think you should hear what I have to say, Mohit.
[02:04:37] Unknown:
I I I do I do say, hey, Roger. I said, hey. Nobody heard me say, hey, Roger before I interrupted. I'm always accused of interrupting, but I I always said, hey, Roger.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Well, you just cut it off at that until you're acknowledged. Let him finish his thoughts first. It's just common respect.
[02:05:06] Unknown:
But will William and Roger there was an in there was an interrupting interruption. They stopped talking. Stopped talking. Him and the the what's the guy's name? The new guy, Larry William. He he had stopped talking, and there was a break. There was a break. And then I said, hey, Roger. But and then I made the CVK Syskebe Trust joke. And and nobody heard me. So I guess they knew him. What what was it was
[02:05:33] Unknown:
it on topic? No. It wasn't on topic. So you just threw a wrench into the conversation that didn't need to be there, Wahid.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
But it it was during an interruption, and it was on topic because they had first they first were talking about No. It wasn't.
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No. It Do you remember?
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It had nothing to do what they were discussing.
[02:06:00] Unknown:
Just because somebody stops to take a breath doesn't mean that's an opening for you to derail the conversation by throwing a joke in there that had absolutely nothing to do with what they were talking about. Nothing. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Zilch. No. No. Spike. Spike. Spike. Lay down.
[02:06:21] Unknown:
Good god. That was how me and Roger met with with the pit bull.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
He don't like you, though. The pit was
[02:06:28] Unknown:
I know. You know, I had two or three of those situations. I don't know what's and I met the guy. The guy the guy that whose pit bull attacked me, not not that the the second pit bull. The, the homeowner, he he parks his car next to our bank. Is somebody making a joke? Is somebody laughing in the background? Anyway, he parks his car next to the bank, and I told him about his dog. And we had a long discussion. He's a pretty nice guy, but, he it scared though. It scared me to death.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Mhmm. Well, he we're crying in pain. Okay?
[02:07:12] Unknown:
Stop talking about the damn dog.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Please please mute. They're robbing the bank. Get out of the bathroom. You might protect the bank.
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Hi, Dane. Andrew,
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Remember the one about the jury duty? Then I had the jury duty situation. Remember that, Paul?
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Yeah. But but but, Wade, this show isn't about all things Wadeed. And everything Wahid ever wondered, pondered about or, what has ever been afraid of. This is not at Wahid's hour. Katherine Austin Fits. We don't care about that. We care about affidavits to the Secretary of State and bowing out of the system by saying thanks, but no thanks.
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Hey, Paul.
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Yeah.
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Hey.
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Not to get off that conversation, but I do have a question in regards to taxes. And I just kinda was looking for an input from anybody in the in the, audience. So I've helped a friend exit the system, and she just received a notification from the IRS that, they are expecting her tax returns from, '23. She actually did in late twenty two. Any idea? I just told her just to I told her just to resupply them, with more, you know, more affidavits. But, any any other suggestions from anybody?
[02:08:56] Unknown:
No. Absolutely. You send them a cover letter saying this is for your records. This is to remind you that I have already served notice with the attached affidavit, that I am, none, that I am not a citizen of The United States, and I am not a resident. It is never it it is not now or ever has been my intent to avoid paying a tax that I lawfully owe. It is my understanding the only taxes that I am responsible for paying are eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, and neither of those taxes apply. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you. Hugs and kisses.
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Kiss my ass. That's just that's kinda essentially what I told her, but I just thought I would run this past the group to see if anybody else had any anything I had missed. But, anyway, just, what they sent? Just wanted to sign. What they sent her was a confirmed
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was a confirmatory writing. They gave her notice that they expected her to file a return for 2023. And if it's unrebudded, it becomes an agreement that she is bound to, that she has to file one for 2023. She responds to their letter with, I take issue with your letter. I've already put you and your agency on notice that, I am a national. I am not a citizen of The United States. I am not a resident.
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Okay. It's a confirmatory right. What I've told her to do.
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Yeah. And she's gonna do it quickly because they'll proceed as soon as as soon as x number of days go by. After that notice, they'll proceed.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't know. Don't ignore it.
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Oh, absolutely. Never ignore anything from the IRS. Yeah. What will he Hey, Paul.
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I know you're gonna really be amazed. I haven't even gotten started on the passport yet. It's been over a year. Not like, you said start off with the passport again. The first thing to do with the and you said there was a new there was a new card, a card type. Last time we spoke on this issue, I've I've been away for about three, four months. But, the first procedure to take as far as the passport is concerned.
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You sent an affidavit to the secretary of state. I believe, MERCA and, Pageant and them helped you with that.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. They did. So
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And and then you put, notices. You put your local officials on notice. I helped you with that, and now you need to apply for a passport using a 11. So do it.
[02:12:05] Unknown:
I have a I have a friend that, me and her, roommate together, and she she has she has a passport. Will her passport be similar to the one that I'm going to, get?
[02:12:18] Unknown:
Yes. It'll look the same. It'll look the same. The difference will be in the computer system and in the files of the secretary of state. That's where the difference will be. They know who you who and what you are. The passports, for all intents and purposes, will look identical. They may have a couple of different numbers on them or, like, a different number of stars or this, that, or the other thing. What's important is what is on file and in possession of the secretary of state. That's the only thing that's important. Just attach and have that and just impose an affidavit include an affidavit with your DS 11 passport application.
[02:13:03] Unknown:
In other words, I I would put, something I would send them the same when I sent to the secretary of state, and I would also I would inform the passport people that this is already on file. I would inform the passport people. This is already on file with the secretary of state, this, this copy I'm giving you of my, God. I can't think of a word. I don't even think you need to do that.
[02:13:33] Unknown:
I don't even think that you need to do that. Just, just include a copy of the affidavit with the passport application.
[02:13:41] Unknown:
I don't have to I don't have to send them a separate letter telling them this is on file with the secretary of state's affidavit. I don't you said I don't need to do that. Think so.
[02:13:50] Unknown:
Dude, I've read some of your letters. I think it would only confuse them. And lucky for you, you have a roommate that already applied for and got a passport so she can help you with the application.
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Correct. Correct. Correct. Thank you so much, Paul. You and you and Roger selves have been, very valuable, and thank you.
[02:14:12] Unknown:
Well, you're welcome, Wahid. Go forth and be spiffy.
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And and he's very patient with you.
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It only took us, like, four hours to to get the notices straightened out, but it it got done.
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It was a painful four hours, but it got done.
[02:14:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I know Andy was driving across what was it? North North Dakota at the time. He almost went driving off through the bushes. He's getting frustrated.
[02:14:46] Unknown:
I I know this is a hypothetical, but would you sell your citizenship for $5,000,000?
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Sketch sketch sketch. I wanna hear I wanna hear where you're going with that. But, why he kinda stepped on the gentleman before before that? Is there anyone in the audience that has any thoughts concerning the gentleman's what the gentleman asked? I don't wanna hear what you have to say, Sketch, or where you're going. I yield.
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I don't know who that was. I didn't hear it.
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It were you what was I heard?
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I I didn't hear anybody. I don't know who that was. Okay.
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Guy with the friend that, the IRS, is that is that, is that a completed I guess it is. Okay. Go ahead, Sketch. I do wanna hear where you're going with your thoughts. I yield.
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Well, I asked a question. Who here, hypothetically, would sell their Cision ship for $5,000,000, Annette?
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Oh, I I wouldn't because, you know, I I am what I am. I am a national. I don't know if that's my phone that's screeching. If it is, I apologize. I I would not. I yield.
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Say you wanted to move to, let's say, another country. Would you trade your citizenship That for another and you didn't wanna come back to The United States?
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That's an interesting question. I I I would have to have some inner witness that I should do that.
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Right. Well, I'm still talking about the I was just talking I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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Well, no. I'm I'm finished. I just have to I would have something inside of me telling me to do so. You know what I'm saying? I would have to have something more than just my thoughts telling me to do that.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Right. I know. And it it wasn't a hypothetical, the commoditization of citizenship. It it occurs. And I think if if, say all the there are there are, societies within societies here in America. There are Mexicans. There are are the blacks. There are, you know, the Chinese. Just think what power they had if they could all sell their passports and move somewhere else. They'd have power. It's about power. You know? Mhmm. And it's about thinking outside the box. The only reason I brought up the box was is that we tend to, stay in the box that is falling apart. We I think you we would all agree that the box of The United States is falling apart, and we we go back into the box when we deal with this information.
And I think to move forward, we have to go we have to have new concepts, new ideas. And that's the only reason I'm I think the only reason I bring up interesting or things that interest me to Roger because I value his opinion.
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I think what we're doing is we're we're taping our own box back together again.
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Okay. So I agree this experiment only happened once. But, and we did have supposedly, I don't know, you could say supposedly we had a republic, but I think it was correct from the very beginning. So why stay in that box? Why stay in that box and continue to smuggle with the old information that is presented to us? Why not start new things? Because we're at the precipice now where things are falling apart, and we're gonna have to rebuild. And, the concept of, going back is kind of, I don't know if it's insanity, but thinking you're gonna get a new you're gonna go back in time and use the the old tools that have been corrupted aren't gonna be corrupted again, I think, is is a fallacy.
You know?
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Well, I think the problem with it getting corrupted was people weren't paying attention. If people would have been paying attention, maybe it wouldn't have gone so horribly off the rails. Woman was told, we gave you a republic if you can keep it. That's what the people failed to do. They failed to keep it. And personally, me, I wouldn't sell my citizenship for 5,000,000, maybe 10. Because, you know, 5,000,000 doesn't go as far as it used to. No. I agree. No. I agree. It's not enough. Be a buyer.
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Bring me a buyer. I'm ready. Yeah.
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Hey, Tyrone.
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How are you? Sketch, what got you thinking on that thought?
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Com video, actually. I put it in the chat, today. It is a just a minute. I will look it up. I'll have to, go to another
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No. Another copy.
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His name is just a minute. I have it on my other. His name is just a minute. He is a intellectual. He's a philosopher. His name is Shadid King Bolson. Okay? And he talks about the, con col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col He he's saying that well, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth, but it it was very valuable to me that, he he he he thinks outside the box, and he changed his perspective my perspective. And I think he'd change your perspective if he watched the video.
I can try and What's the name of the what's the name of the video? I'm sorry for interrupting. What's the name of the video? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The video is called Shahid Bolson. I can spell Shahid Bolson if you want. Sends a message to the Israelis.
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Okay.
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And he it it kinda blew me away, really, because of his his understanding of, that I a perspective I'd never heard about that, I'll let you'll have to watch it, and I I couldn't he he has a way of words. Okay. So I'm just Shahid
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is spelled
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S h a h I d. So s h a h I d.
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And Boleson is b o o
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o s e n. Okay. Thank you. Sends a message to the Israelis. Thank you. And basically, he says that the money powers, the people in control are, they are Semitic, antisemitic. As far as the, well, it's hard it's hard to explain. But listen, what it's only eighteen minutes, and it will change your specific your perspective. I guarantee it. If not I'm sorry. I even brought it up. Alright. No. No. No.
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Oh, okay. So, so what aspects of that made you think about changing citizenship or or selling citizenship?
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Well, the golden passport thinking outside of Boston.
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He brought up the golden passport, and he said that, as, societies, they have power. They have, the buying power. They're consumers. But if they took Hello? The middle man if they took the middle man away, they would have and and negotiated their own, negotiated their own, purchases versus having a middle man, they'd be they'd have much more power.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Yeah. Ayil.
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Ayil.
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Someone want to just start saying something?
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Is his brother Felicia?
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Say that again? Big o.
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Is his brother Felicia?
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I don't know if he has a brother, but this brother really, changed mine. And I did send it to you, Brent, and I did put it in a private chat today, and I was hoping you'd have an opinion on it.
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I haven't had time to look. I've I've been
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I've been listening to what's been going on here. No. I understand. I but I value your opinion, Brent, and, that's why I sent it to you.
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Well, I was just gonna say, Sketch, I didn't I didn't sell my US citizenship. I gave it away to him. I told, Anthony Blinken at the time that I didn't wanna be one of his freaking slaves. Yeah. And that was freaking
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Right. And maybe a national citizenship would be 10,000. Right? That, Paul wants. You know? Maybe
[02:25:08] Unknown:
Well, no. Is that gonna be is that gonna be gold, silver, or any other kind of precious metal?
[02:25:15] Unknown:
I would say you would want some precious metal to sell your citizenship. Yeah. You don't wanna sell it for Fiat.
[02:25:24] Unknown:
You know, actually No. Actually Oh, I'm echoing. So so, if someone would, instead of monetary, get a what's that called? The deed that they own. I forgot what the deed is. And the property rights to property, that would be worth more. One that's useful. So land with the with the, that that deed that y'all were talking about earlier with the water rights, that would be that would be more valuable, I think, than the money I yield.
[02:26:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like a I'd like a section or two of, some some properties almost anywhere. It's a beautiful planet out there. But, yeah, that's what I always wanted was a section of land be solely self sufficient and have my own nuclear bomb so I can tell the government, hey, man. Get off my get off my property. And it would be my property, not some fish tissues man made what is it? I mean, we're in twilight zone. This is ridiculous. Always blows my mind when I ponder on it.
[02:26:50] Unknown:
Beliefs are that way? I think you already gave them an ad on bond with that affidavit. They don't know what to do with it. If they fumble with it, it blows up in their face.
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That is paper terrorism.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
It's frivolous. It's frivolous, I say. A frivolous argument.
[02:27:10] Unknown:
It's all man made poopy. That's primarily what it is. It's a fiction. And we go along with their it's a religion too because we go along with it. We pay our dues. And, yeah, if we really want change, we gotta change our currency that we're currently being controlled with. That is a keystone to our servitude.
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And I just wanted to mention one last
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Can't hear you. Go ahead.
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Oh, sorry. I wanted to make say one more thing about, what was expressed by Catherine Austin Fitts. She has the hypothesis that Doge is being brought in and going through all the databases of all these agencies, which is good information, most of it, right, about the citizens. And they are putting it on a c rom and going to privatize it with the new AI to to do more controlling. So, basically, they're trying to privatize the government operation to, get away from the people controlling the government, basically. They're they're gonna privatize it all.
So your representative is No. Exactly. I yield.
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Wouldn't be surprised.
[02:28:56] Unknown:
Hi, Sketch. Hi, Scott. What was that $21,000,000,000,000 amount that those should have gone after?
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Well, they haven't mentioned it. Yes. Skid Catherine Austin Spitz. Okay? And, she tasked, professor Skidmore at one of these universities and their whole class to go through the DOD and the, unfunded liabilities that they supposedly have, and it added up to $21,000,000,000,000. I don't know if you remember Joan on September 10. Good old Donald Rumsfeld says, we have $3,200,000,000 that we can't account for before 09:11. Yeah. So that kinda got swept under the rug. Well, but those those unaccounted, funds have continued since, after 09:11 for, I guess I don't know. But it she they they documented $21,000,000,000,000.
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And did did that 21,000,000,000,000
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go towards the fifth? And it was stolen.
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Did it go toward the fifth? Well, no.
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No. Well, I think it I don't know what it went towards, but, Catherine thinks it it it it that's enough money to create an off world civilization.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Or underground civilization.
[02:30:37] Unknown:
Well, there's plenty of those.
[02:30:39] Unknown:
And, Sketch, if I may ask about, Shahid Bolton, sends a message to the Israelis, and you said something about him saying that Israeli Israel or Israelis are, anti Semite. Does that mean they're against Palestinians?
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Well, you'll have to watch the video. I can't put words I can't explain. I'm not very good explaining it, because of the complexity of the topic that he discusses, but it's the dynamic between The United States and Israel.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Basically, it is project. It was from the beginning, and the DOD just uses that for their, their, increased monetary, you know, the they're they're using all their weapons over there to test them, and they're making bank because they can say, oh, let's keep this war going. Right?
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Yeah.
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And they're using they're using they're using Israel as a as a colonization project, basically. But I I I think you should watch the the videos in the chat. But no it's right in between nurse Hazel and Jay Grant, the last post in the chat.
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Okay.
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It's eighteen minutes, and I think it'll change your perspective if you listen to him carefully. I mean, yet, I think it's, interesting. That's the only reason I bring it up. It might help other people wrap their heads around about the narratives, the competing narratives that we have in our heads. Mhmm.
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Mhmm.
[02:32:37] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Would you kindly, bring that video up so all of us can watch it at once, if that's possible.
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What video is that?
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The one sketch is, talking about it's eighteen minutes. Plus, it'll probably give our heads a chance to cool.
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You mean with, with Catherine who's, having fits? No. No. Shahid.
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Shahid Bolton.
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Whose brother is full of Shaheed.
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Sorry.
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I think so. I'm, I'm I'm I'm working on something at the moment.
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Well, if you want the video, it's the in the chats, it it's the last chat I put in there. It's between nurse Hazel and Jay Grant.
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Okay.
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Chase gets back onto that, spelling US citizen shit thing.
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No. I don't. Stop talking. I was asking a question. I wasn't done talking, Gregory. I was asking a question about the video. Okay. Now I forgot what the question was. Dang it.
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I didn't hear that. Excuse me.
[02:34:27] Unknown:
Hey, Gregory. Anyway, alright. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm I'm okay. So it's it's in the chat. Can you, can you copy it and paste it into the chat so the so the right thing is is at the bottom of the chat? And I'll just go grab it.
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Yes. I will. Just a second.
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Somebody Sir, may I have another? Please, may I have some more? You want some more?
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Insulin child.
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I just did it.
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You'd you you did it? Well, don't let any well, if anybody asks you if if you did it, deny it.
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Admit No. I put the I put the link at the bottom for you. K.
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Whenever you do something, don't, you know, always deny it. Admit to nothing. That's what always works to me works for me.
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Yeah. Oh, do you get my messages, my private messages to you about Wahid?
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No. No. I have not checked the, chat or copied the messages yet.
[02:35:44] Unknown:
No. You'll get a good belly laugh out of him.
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I will.
[02:35:49] Unknown:
And and Andy also. But he's not here. Andy's not even
[02:35:55] Unknown:
yeah. Andy's not even here anymore. Yep. He, he has very little patience for Wahid.
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Yeah. I know.
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They usually don't it doesn't take very long for him to say, it's.
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I was at my shift then also.
[02:36:21] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Okay. So let's see this. Turn that off. Copy. And let me see if I can, the American Journal.
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Thanks, Brent, for putting that in there.
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I'm working on it. If you could address them, what would
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I'm working on it. You know? Can. I'm working on it.
[02:36:58] Unknown:
Competing narratives, I think, is an interesting concept, and he discusses it.
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Alright.
[02:37:10] Unknown:
If you could address them, what would be your message to the Israeli people?
[02:37:15] Unknown:
You know, in the Muslim and the Arab world, we sort of have been taking it as a truism, you know, for years that The United States basically serves Israel, that America is controlled by Zionists, and that the US government will do anything, no matter how much it costs to save and protect Israel. I think there's a lot of Israelis who probably think that way too. But an objective, rational assessment, of the situation would paint a very different picture. I think Israelis need to recognize, if they don't already, that The United States is not your savior.
It's your worst enemy. The US, whether you know it or not and whether Muslims understand it or not, is actually treating Israel the same way that they treat everyone else with complete contempt. I mean, look, they are supporting Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the most unpopular, the most despised, the most corrupt, the most incompetent, the most psychopathic, delusional, and despotic ruler that Israel has ever had. And he's responsible for both prolonging and worsening the conflict with the Palestinians. Netanyahu has made a career, on diverting attention away from the, internal domestic concerns that actually matter, to Israeli citizens, that matter the most to Israeli citizens by endlessly talking about security and the supposed threat, that Israel faces.
And, of course, the domestic problems in Israel just get worse. And the, conflict and the security situation actually just gets worse. And America loves it. They don't care about Israel's domestic issues. They don't care about the, socioeconomic issues, the socioeconomic concerns that Israelis have, the high cost of living, the disparity between rich and poor. They don't care about corruption, in Israeli society and so on. And these are the, predominantly, these are the issues that matter the most to Israeli citizens, to American vote, to, Israeli voters. But as far as America is concerned, the only thing that matters is continuing the strife and conflict. That's all they care about. They don't care about the welfare and the stability of Israel, the safety of Israeli citizens.
You see, Israeli citizens want to treat Israel like an actual country, and they expect it to behave like an actual country. And they think that, their lives and their concerns should matter like they would in an actual country. But to The United States, Israel is a policy instrument. So the Israeli population doesn't matter to them. And what matters to the Israeli population doesn't matter to them. The relationship with The United States, has been incredibly detrimental to Israel despite what everyone thinks. It has prevented Israel from becoming a normal society.
Now part of that is driven by the, by diaspora Jews in The US who, like most, diaspora communities, are generally far more radical and ideological than their people back home. And this diaspora community in the West, particularly in The United States, makes a huge amount of money exploiting, Jewish emotional attachment to Israel, you know, getting them to fund pro Israeli lobbies and so on, which mostly just, makes a handful of American Jews very rich. But it's mostly driven by US policy interests and the utility of Israel, as a vehicle for an endless flow of cash to American defense companies and as an, sort of offshore research and development hub for the Pentagon.
The US does not want, and has never wanted for Israel to be at peace with their neighbors. They've never wanted Israel to integrate into the region. That's not Israel's function as far as America is concerned. It doesn't matter to them that this is the only way for Israel to ever actually become, a normal society. It doesn't matter if this is, in the interest of the Israeli population or not. They don't care. They're using you. They're using you, the Israelis. They're exploiting you. The Americans, the West are using you. And it's absolutely against the interest of your people. Obviously, the only way for Israel to ever progress as a society is to dislodge themselves from The United States, from the West, and to integrate properly into the region.
Until they do that, none of their domestic issues will ever be resolved. None of them even be addressed. Until they do that, they will never be allowed to do anything but, be a policy tool of The US and lose both their lives and their souls in the process. I mean, they're making you do things that are against your beliefs as Jews. They're making you do things that are against your own humanity. They're pushing you to do things that make the world see you as monsters. And more specifically, you're being seen as monsters by the people who are in that part of the world where you are. Properly, Israel should be a global South country. It should be a Middle Eastern country, and it should, share the values and the priorities of the global South and the Middle East.
But because it was, a western colonialist project from the beginning and because it continues to operate exclusively as a colonialist project, it is seen as, it is perceived as, and it sees itself as a western nation. And you're never gonna be able to be a normal country, going forward like that. The only real way forward, is a one state solution. Incorporate all of the occupied territories and all of the inhabitants of those territories into one country with equal citizenship rights. Yes. That will mean that, Israel will have a Palestinian majority and it will no longer be a so called Jewish state, but it can become a normal, healthy society.
I mean, if Zionism means upholding the right of Jews to live in Palestine, well, no one ever said they didn't have that right. No one ever had a problem with that, certainly not the Muslims. But if Zionism means, ethnic Jewish supremacy, Well, I mean, what civilized person would endorse something like that in the twenty first century? There were always Jews in Palestine during the Muslim empire. And there were Jews in Palestine when the Zionists came, and the Zionists fought against them. But if you want your country to ever be normal, then you're gonna have to go back in history and learn from the history of those, Palestinian Jews who knew how to get along with their neighbors and who lived peacefully with the Arabs, who lived peacefully with the Palestinians.
The Jews who rightly saw, the Zionist as colonizers and as people who disrupted their society. Because those same Zionist and that same ideology is disrupting your society today. The Israelis can't possibly like being the way their country is now. There's no way they like that. They're human beings. They hate Netanyahu. And most of them blame the government for what's going on right now, and rightly so. But look how opposed that is to the American narrative. You know, look at how at odds the American narrative is from the way Israelis themselves feel, the western narrative. You need to stop letting America talk for you. They're destroying you. The perspective of the average Israeli, is diametrically the opposite of what the Americans are saying. I mean, look at those kids at the rave when the Hamas attack happened.
And remember that, military service is compulsory in Israel. So that means that all of those kids at that rave were IDF soldiers at one point. And all those kids have military training, but those aren't soldiers. I mean, even the active soldiers of the IDF aren't soldiers. The IDF of 2023 is not the IDF of 1956 or 1967 or even of the of the nineteen eighties. These people don't wanna be warriors. They just wanna live their lives, But America won't let them. I mean, look at the Israelis on TikTok or Instagram. What do you think they would rather be doing with their lives? Do you think they have it in them to, that they're so committed to Zionism that they wanna dedicate their lives to harsh, stoic drills and training all day, self sacrifice, discipline, and so on in order to make Israel a warrior nation. Well, they'd rather be in Dubai.
You know it and I know it. If they had a choice between, the path that Netanyahu and The United States wants for them, which is the path of endless strife and conflict and bloodshed. If they have a choice between that or, following the path of a one state solution that would flood that country with Gulf investment, Gulf money, and would allow them to just basically lay on the beach all day smoking hashish, what do you think they would prefer? No. Israel has to detach itself from The US. They need to start looking, to the BRICS nations for diplomatic resolutions and solve these problems together with the global South. And they need to send this message, to the diaspora and try to deradicalize those people and stop the influx of crazy settler extremists to their country. That's a destabilizing force in your society. I mean, just like always, the Muslims, the Arabs, are giving Jews a way out of western exploitation and violence because that's all the West is doing if you think about it. If you think it through, you can't possibly be foolish enough not to see that. I mean, we've always heard about how smart Jewish people are. So surely, you can see that the West is just, throwing you into violence and suffering and chaos.
They're just using you. But the Arabs, the Muslims, genuinely want peace and stability. But with justice and fairness. You believe in justice and fairness, don't you? You want peace and stability, don't you? Well, the only way that's ever gonna be brought about, is when you disentangle yourselves from The United States, honestly. I think you should enact a law in Israel, in fact, against dual citizenship. Don't let anyone be a citizen of Israel while still holding a passport for another country. Then you can weed out, you know, who's really invested in your society and who isn't. I think at least 20% of Israelis. Last time I checked, I think around 20% of Israelis, hold dual citizenship, and about half of those only live in Israel part time. They are seasonal Zionists.
And these are most likely gonna be, you know, the settler types who are basically sort of a a Jewish Isis, a Jewish dash. You don't want people like that in your society. I mean, it will also be from from the the part time seasonal Zionist. You also have the business people who have divided interests. You need to weed those people out. They're destabilizing. And you certainly shouldn't be allowed to, serve in the government if you have dual citizenship. How can you how can how can you be sure, which country's interests they're serving? Particularly, if they're, American Israelis, if they hold dual citizenship of Israel and and The United States.
Which country are they serving? I mean, how many of these people in the government or elsewhere but especially in the government? How many of these people will be willing to sacrifice their US passport for Israel? Not many. I promise you that. Well, that shows divided loyalty, and that's at least one of the reasons why there's so much corruption in your government. Because most of the people, are serving American interests. Most of the politicians are serving American interests, European interests. While you and I know that, Netanyahu is about 95% more likely to retire in in, Florida than in Israel. So if you can get people who are actually committed to, Israel being a proper normal country, People who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the Israeli people, well, I think you would see peace a lot sooner, and that's obviously in the best interest of Israel.
So you need to get closer to the Arabs. You need to get closer to the Muslims and liberate yourselves from being nothing but an American tool in The Middle East because that's what you are, and that's what they're treating you as. I mean, haven't you ever noticed, that the most enthusiastic supporters of Zionism in the West and in The United States among non Jews are exactly the the, those same groups of people who historically have been the most antisemitic people. While the original Zionist got support from the most Jewish hating segments of Europe back in the day. Everyone knows that. That's not a secret and they haven't changed. The Westerners haven't changed. Those same anti Semitic groups haven't changed. They're just the way they've always been.
They supported Zionism, back then because they wanted Jews to be anywhere else but next to them. And there's they feel the same way today. And their so called support for Israel right now is just as anti Semitic as it has always been. They wanna see you in conflict. They wanna see you in misery. They wanna see you in insecurity and they want you to be dependent and subject. It's nothing but hate. But you fooled yourselves into thinking it's love. You fooled yourselves into thinking it's friendship when they're your worst enemy. They're the same people who persecuted you for centuries and they're persecuting you right now.
Just doing it more cleverly. And the same people who were historically the most welcoming to you and the most kind to you are the same people that they want you to be at war with. I'm telling you, you're getting played. You should be smarter than that. They don't want good for you. They never did. I mean, what good have you gotten, actually? Hundreds of thousands of your sons and daughters right now have been called up to go to the slaughter by America and their sponsored agents in your government. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent only to make you more insecure and line the pockets of your corrupt politicians while average Israelis are struggling with the cost of living, and no one cares.
Your politicians don't care, and who they work for doesn't care, which is The United States. They hate you, and they hate us. You and I both know it. We should more or less be on the same side, but they keep making you do things that make it impossible for us to side with you. And that's the whole trick, and you keep falling for it. We don't have a problem with Jews. We never did. Muslims don't have a problem with Jews and history attests to that fact. But the people who do have a problem with Jews, are the biggest backers of Zionism and we do have a problem with Zionism.
And you should too. Because it's a plot that's against you and not for you. If you think about it, they're tricking you in every which way. The US didn't defeat the Nazis and liberate the concentration camps. Russia did that. Some of the biggest backers of the Nazis were in America. And after the war, they brought over all the top Nazis in Operation Paperclip, and you know it. They brought them over after the war to help them in their science and, engineering and development and so on. Everyone knows that. And right now, they're backing an army, in Ukraine who literally fly the swastika, fighting against the country that ended the holocaust, and you're supporting them. You see how confused you are? Don't you see how they've never changed?
How the West has never changed? Don't you see, how they want you to be against anyone who ever gave you refuge? Anyone who was ever decent to you. And you still think this is support? You still think this is love? You think this is friendship? They're using you and they're ruining you because they never stop being anti Semitic. That's the truth. They never stop being anti Semitic. So my message to, Israelis would be stop being led by the nose by anti Semites and actually make peace with the Semites, with the Arabs, with the Muslims, and get yourselves free once and for all from The United States, from Europe, and from, Zionist anti Semitic manipulation because it's gonna be the death of your country. It's gonna be the death of your society. And like I said, it's gonna be the death of your souls.
Because in order for you to do what The United States wants you to do, you have to do things that are against your belief system. You have to do things that are against your morality. You have to do things that are against your own sense of humanity. And it's gonna destroy your reputation, and it is destroying your reputation all across the world and more importantly across the global South, which is where the future is. So you need to stop, being manipulated by the West. You need to stop being manipulated by The United States and stop being manipulated by the people who are taking money from The United States and lining their pockets with it. They're sacrificing your children. They're sacrificing your sons and daughters. They're sacrificing your quality of life, and they're sacrificing your future just to line their pockets. Everybody knows that, Netanyahu is doing nothing now but trying to save his political career no matter how many lives have to be lost, Palestinian lives or Israeli lives. He doesn't care and neither does America. So you need to wake up and start using that great brain,
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Well, we're gonna help one way or another. I don't know to the degree, but that's what we're here for is to help change the world, hopefully. In the next two hours, we'll take another stab at it. So here we are on the day after the fake April Fool's Day and, the April 2, and, it is the Radio Ranch you've tuned into somehow. I doubt that you stumbled into it, but you may have. And, Roger Sales, your host. Excuse me. And, we're assisted by a number of other, folks who help us extend our reach. The keeper of all these, extra planks or platforms, if you will, is mister Beaner, and we bring him on for to give them the proper credit and recognition for helping us. Don't we, Paul?
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Yes. We do. And, we actually have a a light number of connections. WDRN productions hasn't connected yet. So, we are on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul across the drink. And we're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Radio dot global voice radio dot net. Global Voice Radio Network. The links to those two platforms are on, the matrix docs as well as the links to join us using free conference call. Join us live on the show again. Thousand
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seats. Your butt might as well be in one of them. Mhmm. Sure. We'd love to have you. Next week. We had some new folks yesterday. I'm assuming they're with us again today. William and Tony, are you guys with us? I hope. Maybe you're not in as much of a position as you were working out or driving or whatever you were doing yesterday. Anyway, we hope you're back with us today. William said he would be. We'll see. I also want to address the way the show ended yesterday with Boris giving me a bunch of crap. Boris, listen.
I'm here to teach people facts that wanna be free. I don't tell you to do it. If you want the answers, I'm a I have them duty bound to give them to you. I did encourage people to vote yesterday, but it was a state election in Wisconsin for a Supreme Court seat that might eventually be a pivot point for the whole congress. So, yes, I thought that was important. Nationals are really state citizens, and all politics is local. And I would think you and everybody else would wanna participate in your local politics political elections because those have a direct bearing on you.
And the third thing was my support and like of mister Trump. And, I know there are a lot of people who don't like him, and that's fine, but I don't understand really why. I mean, you know, the guy you were we're sitting at corruption corruption corruption. I was we're talking yesterday at lunch about corruption stops this and corruption. Well, you know, there's one thing, Mr. Crump, I don't believe you can even even glance in his direction on the word corruption. Okay? I mean, he's given for the whole four years he was in before, folks, whether you know it or not, he didn't take a penny for being president. He gave all that money to a family for, dead veterans, I believe is the thing. And I'm pretty sure he's doing it that way again. He doesn't need the money. In fact, he spent much of his personal fortune fighting these bastards.
I would ask any of you, have you ever seen the, interview that Trump did with, oh, I can't believe Oprah Winfrey about thirty five years ago. Paul, have you ever seen that?
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Yeah. Yeah. I've seen Snippets seven.
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I mean, the guy saying the same thing now he was saying thirty five years ago. Roger? Okay. He hadn't changed. Oh, just hold on a minute, Julie. He hadn't changed. Since he's been coming on the national scene, we've, we've had all the Russiagate Russiagate Russiagate crap, which all turned out to be lies. We had all two two impeachments in his last term. Okay. You got a a a a tribe of hyenas and jackals that are after this guy. If they could find one morsel of anything that they could use against him, you it'd been painted over every newscast every day for years. But in in two impeachments, I think it's five trials between that presidency and this, and they've never found a single thing on this guy, Julie. He's gotta be the cleanest guy in America. Who else could undergo that scrutiny?
Okay. He's a ultra successful businessman. He he yeah. Okay. He got started with a little kick start of $40,000,000. His dad left him. Look what he's parlayed that into. Okay? That's success. Okay? I look at, the the here's a guy that's ultra successful, and and he is not corrupt. Yeah. He's got some bad people associated with him. I'll agree with you on that. And but you don't know why. You don't know why if you're succumbing to them or if you've been influenced by Scofield dispensationalism. Hell, they use the Scofield Bible at the Southern Baptist Convention Teaching Center in Dallas.
So there's that influence all over the damn place of people who've been fooled on the word Israel and all that line of crap. So I I don't see how you can be so damn vindictive on somebody that's a pretty clean living guy. Hey. A guy's got five children. He calls every one of his children every day even though he's got all this on his back. K? So you can think what you want. Okay? But I admire somebody like that that will put everything aside to be and go through the crap they put him through for the last ten years just to try and lead the country out of the ditch, which he talked about thirty five years ago with Oprah Winfrey, Julie.
Okay? So now come and tell me about the CDC coins and the new world order. There's gonna be a new world order regardless. Okay? It's just like the Bible says. When when there's a good king, the people rejoice. When there's a bad king, the people moan. Alright? Well, we've been moaning for four years, and it looks to me like we've come out of the woods. Not totally. He still got those influences. And and and I would say to pray for him that he can see the Zionist corrupt bunch that he's, letting influence his administration so much. K? So, anyway, I like him. I'm not telling you to like him. You don't have to. I'm not telling you to go through and file paperwork. If you don't want to, you don't have to. It's everything's voluntary here, and I've got the right to like somebody if I like them with valid reasons behind them.
So okay. Now.
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Me next to doctor Julie.
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Yes. Hello? Okay. Roger, can you hear me? Yep. Yep. So, I mean, like I said, I'm not gonna I don't wanna argue with you, Roger, but, he took hundreds of millions of dollars from APAC and Trump, he himself is a Zionist. His whole family are Zionists. And so, I mean, I'm gonna yield. Like I said, you're a I agree.
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I agree with that. Yep. If somebody's running for president, they're gonna take anybody that's gonna give them money, generally. He also took a hundred million dollars from Sheldon Adelson's widow out there, Miriam Adelson, in Las Vegas. Her husband, now deceased, was a big supporter of Trump. Okay? Gave him the same He also Well, if somebody's gonna get you the Noahide laws. He also signed the Noahide laws, which are horrible. Those are super horrible. Well, guess what? They don't they don't apply to you.
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Right.
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Okay? That's true. That's true. Alright. So that doesn't make a jack shit to me. Okay? But Roger. You're you're saying just Larry, hold on a second, please. Yeah. You're saying, well, he's coming out with CDC's deep coins. Well, to me, he's floating potentially fifty year bonds backed partially by gold. All the gold in the world is rushing to America right now because it looks like he may be back in the currency by gold. That's not CBDCs.
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We're getting a new global current we're getting a new global currency reset for life. Have to. We're gonna have to because they've taken ours to the very end.
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There's too much debt. The debt service can't be serviced. Do you know that it costs more on the interest to this fraudulent debt than the defense department budget? They're spending money on the on defense.
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Roger, the whole world is bankrupt. It's the international bankrupt
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Come on.
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They've done this they've done this worldwide.
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You're not talking to Joe the schoolboy here. Okay?
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Oh, I know. I'm just telling you that it's not I understand all that. I understand why far more than most people.
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Okay? Right. I just like the guy. I'm a glass half full guy. I want hope. I understand the Bible. I've got faith. I'm not one of these stick your head and doom and gloom glass half empty people. That's just not the way I choose to live my life.
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I like them and joking.
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Well, there's all it sure seems like it to me. I I don't mind you bringing back those alright. I don't mind you bringing out those conflicts.
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There's this there's a difference between being a truther versus this has nothing to do with being optimistic or pessimistic. This has to do with the truth, and it has nothing to do with the last half hour.
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Well, you're telling me he's gonna put in CDC coins in every indication. Is he gonna do opposite, Julie? So how about that truth?
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We're going into a digital currency, Roger.
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Well, maybe not totally. Idea. You got well, you know, listen. Hold on, Julie. You're just getting out on a limb and saying stuff you can't back up.
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Okay? Oh, yeah. Because I promised you.
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Ecuador's on the dollar. They tried to float a CDC currency down here when Correa was in. The Ecuadorians wouldn't accept it. There's other countries on the dollar as long goddamn. Will you people at least talk, please? As long as these countries are on the dollar, they gotta keep printing them, Julie.
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Rogers, we're not going to have a CBDC because The United States doesn't have central banks. We have Federal Reserve Bank. So when Trump said no CBDC here, yeah, duh. The foreign countries have central banks. We have some reserve banks here.
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Sorry. We're going on a call. Federal Reserve, Julie. The Federal Reserve is a central bank. Yeah. Quit pissing on me and telling me it's raining. I don't buy it.
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Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm pissing on you.
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Mark, is Mark with us today? He's supposed to be. He's usually here on Wednesdays. Hell, he probably scared away from the microphone now.
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Oh, that's funny. You with us?
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I am. Hard. Okay. Hard. Anyway, I don't like seeing shows like that yesterday. We had a very positive show with two new students. And at the end of the show, Boris jumps in my shit on, though, I think we were off the air at that point, probably just in the back part of the show. No. We weren't. He said, well, you're telling her, you tell us to do vax a bit free and then you're telling us to vote and then you're telling us you like Trump. Yeah. I try and teach the people that wanna be free all this information. Let me ask you, where the hell else you're gonna get it? Where the hell else you're gonna get this information, kiddies?
You're not. You're on time. And I don't care whether you like Trump or not. I do. I admire people that are successful. He's very successful. Hell, he's just about my age. I hadn't accomplished anything like that. And, yes, I told you to vote in a state election, Wisconsin. It may determine the whole direction of our country, that little election in Wisconsin. You're national. That means you're a state citizen. Local politics apply to you. All politics is local. Yes. I told people to do that because they should. But don't jump in my crap about it.
Unless you got some kind of solid proof instead of whimsy, flimsical comments like that yesterday, Boris, because you were all wrong. Now, Larry.
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Yes. Roger, I agree with you that local politics are very important, and here's why. This just came out a couple of days ago in California. I'm kinda out of breath because I was helping a customer. But, anyway, it says California gubernatorial candidate says he'd abolish the state income tax. This was 03/28/2025. Citing a desire to, quote, restore the California dream for all, end quote, a Republican candidate in the 2026 race to become California's next governor says he'd eliminate the state's income tax if he elected. In a video posted to x, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said that he and his team would work immediately on abolishing the income tax for all Californians.
So what kind what national would be against, you know, the elimination of income tax? That's why our low our local, politics are very important.
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Well, all politics is local. Most of it, especially for us, because all that crap they're doing up there in DC, unless they pass a constitutional law, it's nothing they do applies to us. Because they take all those laws and they form them down to a regulatory agency, and they make little laws is what they're called. And they come out in there for the herd. They're for the serfs. Those don't have anything to do with us. But, yeah, the the the whether there's gonna be and I don't still know. I imagine that that gal Crawford probably won that yes, last night yesterday. The Dems were all behind it. The I was sitting across from a guy at lunch from Wisconsin, older guy, probably older than me. And he's he's a liberal, and he's going, oh, must spent millions of dollars. I said, hey. Pritzker and Soros spent over a hundred million dollars in that race, and Elon Musk comes up with two $1,000,000 checks, and you're raising all kinds of hell. Well, I I just don't understand these people.
But, you know, I don't understand a whole lot of things that are going along with people anymore because I they don't think they react. They're all brainwashed. There's so many lies out there. They don't know which one they're following. You can't hardly have a conversation that's grounded with them. And I just throw up my hands. I got I got a couple hours here on my show where I got some sanity, and then I get attacked yesterday.
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Hey, Ranche.
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Yes, Paul.
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Now that my microphone's working again, I think it dropped out. Yeah. I've I've got something to say about yesterday. First of all, we were still on the air. We were on Global Voice Network and and other platforms. And, yes, I did have to, stop the stream. I had to download the audio. I had to create generate the, transcript for the audio so I could search for things like f bombs and, like, the tirade that Bori did and then edit the audio and reupload it, regenerate the transcript, and then republish the program. So Thank you.
I finished that at about quarter after five yesterday. Now I don't mind getting up at 08:00 in the morning and starting to set up the show by 09:00 in the morning so people can start coming in by ten and we can do a show, and then I can wrap it up and finish up by maybe two in the afternoon. I don't mind doing that. It's a labor of love. But when I have to throw three more hours at it just to correct something that never should have happened, that kinda bothers me.
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Well, it bothers me too. That's why I'm talking about it today. I don't like ending on this on this situation like we did yesterday. This is about a month or six weeks ago, I had to do the same crap with Sketch, okay, about some stupid thing that I don't know any damn thing about. And it just escalated. He wouldn't let go. Okay? And it's just pointless. It's senseless. I teach what I teach for fourteen years. Well, more than that. But, on the air for fourteen years, not ever has one person came in and rebutted or or, anything I proved, anything I said was false here in these facts.
Okay? Yeah. That's just a track record that's pretty damn unblemished, folks. Yeah. Well If I wanna have my personal opinions, I can. I'm entitled to that. I'm free. If you don't like it, that's fine. You're entitled to that too. You're free too. But don't come in here and bust my ass on things I'm saying that are totally 100% legitimate.
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Well, it's okay. We get we all know we all know that the federal government does not apply to us, and the state government should apply to us. But we know that the state governments are political subdivisions of the federal government. They're both two sides of the same coin.
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But Well
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they still make decisions that affect us. The health of the currency.
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The the health of the currency. The coin. They're not the same side of the coin if you file an affidavit. Whether they recognize it or not, they're not.
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Well, we that's that's for us. But for everything else, there are two side there are two different sides of the same coin because there's the federal government and then there's the political subdivisions of the federal governments which are the state ofs. But the thing is, they make decisions. The monetary health, the economic health of the country, how much it costs you for a loaf of bread or a gallon of gasoline, all of that affects us. Now all of the elections appear to be state run elections, but they're run by the federal subdivision.
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They're run by the state. It's in the state constitutions. They turn over the electoral process to the state and to the state legislature. They write the laws for their state on how the election is is is is done.
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But every single one of those those politicians, they swore an oath to the constitution of The United States and to the constitution of the state of Florida. That's not Florida state. It's the state of Florida. It's the overlay. So the original republic states, the sovereign states, the states that we're citizens of, they're not populated. They're not seated. None of those bastards that are going to the capitals of every state in the country has anything to say about us because we come before them. We come above them. It goes from god to us to them.
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They don't like recognizing that either.
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No. They don't. But they still make decisions that affect us positively, negatively, or not at all.
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I've always told you that if you want to if you wanna affect something that is direct relation to you is local elections, local and state. You got to You don't wanna do that? I don't care. I don't care. I'm not telling you to do anything here.
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K? You gotta start in your neighborhood. You gotta start in your city, then you gotta start in your county, and you gotta get on board with the sheriff or you gotta get him on board with you. That's where it's coming from. I heard a guy call in,
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Corn Pop. I don't know if y'all listen to Infowars or not, but this guy calls in pretty prevalently. He was on Harrison show yesterday. Corn pop. Remember the comment from Biden about corn pop was a bad dude? Well, this guy's taken on that monitor corn pop. So he's up there. Now the, the principal of one of the high schools, I think, in Augusta, Maine, is refusing to recognize the federal law now about men and women's sports. And, unfortunately, he's the, he he he's the head of the state principals association. So he's affecting the other principals with this absolutely, illegal decision that they've got up there in in, Maine. There was a recent example of it. I don't remember what it was.
So, anyway, Corn Pop is on there going, well, I've I've gone out and I'm, like, I'm out knocking on doors to try and tell people about this, and I'm looking for help. You know? And here's a guy that realizes that's local. It's affecting federal, or at least interacting with federal, and he's out there with flyers knocking on doors and asking people to come help him. That's all politics is local right there. Yeah.
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Okay?
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So I don't care what you think of Trump. You can think he's a demon. I think he's a hell of a good guy to be admired. Has he got his flaws? Yeah. He's human. Who else would you want up there? You want Jesus back? You're gonna find somebody more unblemished than Trump? You better look for Jesus because they damn sure can't find the damn thing on him in five trials and two impeachments. And if they would have had anything on him, believe me, it would have been front page, capital letter news. You know who these people are. They're a pack of hyenas and jackals.
Okay? And boy are they after his ass. Even though he's, working with the other side of the Zionist line. K? So I'm sorry. That's my opinion. And, and those are the reasons, and that just upset me yesterday. I had it on my mind all afternoon, all evening, woke up with it on my mind this morning. I mean, coming from Bory, here's a guy that glommed into this somehow and got on the air about two years ago and said, I wanna publicly thank you for, because of you and the lack of income tax taken out of my checks, I've gone being able to gone go back to Puerto Rico and see my family for the first time. That's what Boris told the whole audience.
And then and then a couple years later, that's how he treats me yesterday.
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Yeah. I think it was the full moon yesterday. Waxing moon. So I like that. Mercury's in retrograde. Hell, who knows? Yeah. I Okay. Might be weird. Well, William, I also did I also did talk about, you know, believe in chicken and all that stuff. Maybe he went and listened and and looked at those two commercials. I hear you. They are absolutely positively demonic.
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Did you did you did you ever drive through Marietta when you were driving there?
[00:25:16] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. A few times. I did try to Have you ever heard? I tried to get to Georgia just because I had to go through Atlanta. I I totally understand that, especially if you're having to drive through the city there.
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But out in Marietta, there's a big deal. Anybody from Georgia will know. There's a there's a Kentucky fried rest chickens there that have forgot sixty, seventy years, I guess, has had this giant chicken built up, and it's called the Big Chicken. And everybody would well, where where is it? Well, it's it's two miles down the road from the Big Chicken. It's the landmark there in Marietta that everybody references. See? And so when you're saying the Big Chicken yesterday, I'll go, well, you've been to Marietta? Have you have you, Paul? Oh, man. But I'm not kidding you. Everybody in Marietta, if you're asking directions, it'll be well, at some direction, the big chicken will be in the answer somewhere.
[00:26:16] Unknown:
Yeah. And Roger. And I do wanna I do wanna share something quickly. If you have not seen those commercials, they are on YouTube. Don't bother going to look at them. I gave a very, very accurate description of what the commercials were about. I watched those, and I felt so icky after I watched them. I felt so icky and so heavy. It took four thirty two hertz music and sage smoke to get the ick out of my house.
[00:26:48] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sorry. Palo Santo. You need some Palo Santo in there to get it down. I apologize. Alright. Now there's there's Sketch trying to come in. Sketch, what have you got to add here to this discussion?
[00:26:58] Unknown:
Well, I just wanted to apologize to Paul or anybody else who saw that video. It was, something that you really can't unsee. But,
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Yeah.
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I do have, a few things to say about yesterday's show. There was somebody that came on that totally disrespected you and your wishes. And, you know who I'm talking about, I hope. He calls in very rarely from a bathroom.
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And Oh, Wahid.
[00:27:29] Unknown:
Yes. And you you have said, you know, please do not butt in. Please. Well, you can't. I need Wahid Wahid doesn't recognize those kind of, requests.
[00:27:40] Unknown:
Right. There's other people around here that don't do that either. And I get emails about it.
[00:27:47] Unknown:
Yes. And I think that's what started off some of the disrespect because he was not cut off like he should have been. And, that set the tone for the show, and I'm sorry that people are coming on here doing that, and I'm sorry I interrupted you guys about Well, I I
[00:28:06] Unknown:
listen. I'm sorry to have to spend the time on the program at the start of the program today going over this crap. We've been talking about it for over twenty minutes, almost thirty minutes. Okay? Right. And I'm sorry for that too, but I wanna get some of these things clarified. I don't want any misconceptions out there. I one of the things that our information does is it makes you think in specificity. You're probably thinking sharper now than you ever have in your lifetime because our information demands it. And then once you start doing it and get in a habit of doing it, then it goes over in the other part of your life. And you start thinking like that in all the kind of places. You know, one of my friends in Argentina down there, he go, well, we'll let let's let let let me listen to Roger and his razor sharp thinking. That was his definition.
And the reason that I can do that is because of this. That's what I'm teaching you guys to do indirectly.
[00:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, I I call I think that you are a distiller of information down to its essence, and you make it simple. The complexities, you are a distiller of of the information, and you you present it as simply as you can. And and that's the benefit of you, and you definitely sharpen my thoughts just like you said. And I appreciate that so much. I do want to change the subject. There's other people before me Good. And I butted in. I wanted to bring up citizenship
[00:29:37] Unknown:
after everybody else makes their comments, so please come back. Alright. Okay. Well, I will. We'll put you on the back burners. Anybody else that wants to say something? William and Tony, I don't know if you guys have come back yesterday if you had to go through and listen to all that crap. I usually don't lose it, especially with students, but kinda did yesterday. So my apologies. But I just I I come on here. I get up earlier than I want to to come in here and give you two hours. I don't charge you a frigging penny, and then that's the kind of crap I get.
[00:30:08] Unknown:
Really? Roger, in a nutshell, what did he say? Did he just come at you with something? I I I missed all of that. Can't he Dan, I almost don't wanna rehash it. He came in. I've been talking about
[00:30:19] Unknown:
I've been talking about several things for just let's just not hash it. It's just there's no need for it, Dan. I'm glad I'm glad you weren't here. Came in. So you didn't have to get to us by this crap because I don't like losing my temper. Okay? But, man, I just get so fed up sometimes. You know, I don't know how to do this any better. I just don't know. I get on Jeff Rents. He's got I guess he's got millions of listeners. We haven't had one new student from two appearances on Jeff Rents. Excuse me?
[00:30:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's strange, man.
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He may have noticed that. And I treasure each and every one of you, and I tell you that, and I tell you why. But will you go out and start talking to people about this stuff? You'll find out why real quick.
[00:31:08] Unknown:
I'm doing that. I'm talking all the time about it, and I get a lot of eye rolls. People don't know what to do, but I just stay at it. Yes. We don't need everyone. No. We just need Well, no. We need the ones that we'd in fact, we hardly need anyone. Barely 1% of us will get this job done. Ultimately, that's my estimate.
[00:31:27] Unknown:
Well, certainly, if we could get well, I'm shooting for 10. If we could get 30,000,000 people I to file these affidavits, they got big problems, folks. Now the other counter problem here is we're about to evidently change systems. We're not gonna have an internal revenue service. We're gonna have an external revenue service probably that polices these tariffs that went into effect yesterday, by the way. Okay? And and so we don't know if that whole oppression thing from the inside is gonna continue. Hopefully not. If Trump gets rid of the IRS, folks, Trump is a historical figure.
He he's a hundred years from now, Trump is gonna be written into the history books as one of the great historical figures. Like George Washington. Napoleon, etcetera, etcetera. Certainly of our country, if he gets rid of the IRS, he'll go down as the greatest president in the history of America just for that.
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Essentially. I don't know why people give people a hard time for digging Trump. He's fallible.
[00:32:38] Unknown:
So what? I'm so what? What do you tell me. Where is the guy okay. He he hangs around with all these Jews and they're influencing him, and they're they're doing stuff in his administration. They are. He doesn't even know about. He'll say he didn't get a kiss right there. He's gonna see that kiss. One of the reporters in a news conference the other day said, what about this girl at Tufts, that that got yanked off the street with mass CIA agents, look like? Hell, it could have been the damn facade for a she gets kidnapped off the street in America because she's a PhD or a PhD student, and she wrote an op ed, for for the Palestinians.
And they're kicking her out of the country. And yet we got murders and all these migrants and everything else going all over the country. I don't think they're even making a damn effort to try and find? Yeah. I don't like that. And he didn't know about it, Dan. The reporters said, ask him he said, I don't know anything about it, but I'll look into it. That's what he said. So these Zionists are taking a lot of liberties in his administration that he doesn't even know about.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
Yep. It's all the way around. He might even know some of it and realize that he serves two masters to some degree and has to play a game for a little while. He knows some. He doesn't know some. It doesn't matter. He'll get sick of it soon enough. And either way, we'll wait and see. Yep. Well, I'll tell you what you better do for mister Trump. You better pray for him.
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And I pray for him almost every night that I can remember to do it. K? So we better hope he does good. This better be a glass half full approach here because the glass half empty approach would
[00:34:18] Unknown:
I I think we've dodged a bullet on the on the glass half empty approach. People should build their spirit and allow themselves to feel that their cup runneth over. It's just let it runneth over for now. It doesn't matter what
[00:34:31] Unknown:
Well, now you got this faction splitting away, and now they've got to their core control, which is England, France, and Germany. K? And now they, because Trump is not supporting them, are starting their own northern NATO and putting their own troops in Ukraine. You can see where the bad guys are right here, folks.
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Tell me about it.
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Okay. I think the serenity prayer Wow. That's a good one too. Comes into play right now. Absolutely. Because there's a lot of stuff we can't change. We just gotta know the difference between what we can and what we can't.
[00:35:09] Unknown:
And the only thing you can change is you. That's why learning the information is so important. That's gonna change you. That though, as I've said before, Tony, I hope you and William are listening. I don't know if you are. I hope you are. Okay? But when this little deal we're in right here, when you file this paperwork, if you decide to do that, and we hope you do, but we're not gonna tell you or make you do it. When you file this paperwork, nothing changes. That your neighbors aren't gonna congratulate you. The cop is not gonna stop you and pull you over and say, hey. Good work on filing that affidavit. You're not gonna hear from the local DA with congratulations.
None of that's gonna happen. So if there's gonna be any change at all, guess where the change has gotta be? It's gotta be you. Yeah. It's the only possibility of any change is you. So the better you learn and have commands of the information, the freer you're gonna be and the better you're gonna be able to, a, defend your position if challenged, b, go out and explain to other people exactly what you've done and and how they may be interested. If you can't if you don't know the information, you can't do that. If you wanna learn the information, the surefire fastest way to do it is to go out and find people, start teaching it to them. You'll learn it quicker that way than any other way. You'll learn what you don't know, go back and brush up on it, strengthen up on it, and go find somebody else.
Okay? And then for the future, if this crashes, we've got to have this information available to rebuild where we don't leave these loopholes in there. That's the reason through all three of those things. And they're every one legitimate. But you've got to be the change here. The world is not gonna change. They don't give up flying ship high in transit. I'm telling you, I've been doing this for thirty something years.
[00:37:15] Unknown:
No. They really don't. And about rebutability, I have yet to find anything on your affidavit I can rebut down to its simplest form, and I have tried. Think you didn't find anything in anything I teach. It's unrebuttable, Roger. It's ironclad it is. With the rebuttal. The proof is The proof is they recognize it. Know.
[00:37:35] Unknown:
And people have got passports with it. And let me tell you what, folks. If you don't know it, you thought the CIA was bad and the FBI, maybe the postal inspectors are even worse. But let me tell you what, these passport people, they take fraud very seriously. And there's never been one instance of anything but a bluff letter from these people making sure that you what? Know your stuff. They're testing you to make sure you know your stuff. Now whether Annavon Wright students and David Strait and all these other people out there when they get those, I don't know what they do because I don't think those people do know what they're doing, quite frankly. K?
Regardless, we strictly
[00:38:21] Unknown:
a David Strait person or an Anavon rights person. Once you're one of those people, you you automatically branch out to be the other people like me. I'm both of those people once upon a time, but I couldn't say that. Well, we get refugees.
[00:38:32] Unknown:
We get good refugees like Julie and Dan and others. You know? There's other people that you you get curious, you stumble on the web. I don't have a high profile on the web necessarily, but those people do. They're in The States. They're out there. Ianna's writing all the time and building her assemblies. David Strait is going around the city to city and fleecing people about as much as he can, as quick as he can. So I don't know too much about those people. I'm down here in South America. I'm in South America for almost seventeen years, and you better be damn glad I'm down here because it was when that voice came to me and said, you need to get out, and it came twice.
And I finally very reluctantly went to the post office to go get a passport form because I was like you. I was scared of interfacing with the federal government too. And when I got home and put my feet on the desk and started reading that DS 11, right there at the top of the very first page is the damn answer I've been looking for for over fifteen years. So you better get what was that? Glad I I asked it out of there and moved down here because that's where I found the answer. Paul?
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I'm straight.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
Well, I thought you were I'm good. I'm just listening to you, man.
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Okay. Well, anyway, our is William and Tony with us today? Now they said they'd be back, and I don't want them to be driven off by all that bullshit yesterday. Are you guys with us today, or have you found something else to do? Y'all following another guru? That's what Ron Brown, my buddy Ron Brown called us. There's somebody. Is that William or Tony?
[00:40:14] Unknown:
Yeah. This this no. This is William. This is William. Yeah. I no. I'm I'm here. You know, give me the website again. I I didn't get the website, yesterday, because my hands were I'm dealing with some stuff.
[00:40:25] Unknown:
Alright. Are you ready to describe Yes. Now? Vmatrixdocs.com. V matrix docs. It doesn't matter how you spell docs. All roads lead to Rome here. The matrix.
[00:40:45] Unknown:
Well, it's .com. It does I'll hold it. It's DOCS or DOX. Don't spell it DOCKS unless you have a fishing plate. Please don't be the one Yeah.
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I I spelled D O C S.
[00:41:00] Unknown:
Okay. Now, William, when you get over there Yeah. There's a section called a new student section. It's got a line around that square or rectangle. And there, the the the for new people, the interviews we recommend are in there. And there's another really important piece in there by a guy named doctor Gene Schroeder. He's, still with us. He's a veterinarian out in Eastern Colorado, and he and nine other researchers, I believe, back in the nineties, just about this time, '94, completed a research program. It's called the War Emergency Powers Act.
Paul has gone through. We got a copy of that and improved the audio because it was a little shaky. And somewhere in your studies here, you need to listen and watch that video. It's called War and Emergency Powers Act. That validates what we're doing here, and it shows you what they did legally behind the scenes at the turn of the fir last century to set this up. You may or may not have seen, but in the trials that I was alluding to earlier against mister Trump, the five of them by people that weren't even qualified were not Jack Smith's a Jew who changed his name. He was working as a prosecutor at the world, the the world court. They brought him back over here. He wasn't approved by congress, and he wasn't approved by the president, yet he had all these suits going on. That's the kind of crap that was going on. Okay?
But during that period of time, Trump made a comment. And he said, they're trying to charge me with a 1917 piece of legislation about espionage. That's what that is all about, The War and Emergency Powers Act. Now what they did, William, in 1917 was they wrote a piece of legislation called the War and Emergency Powers Act, and they named the Germans as the enemy who we were fighting in World War one. In 1933, when they pulled the switch and changed the systems, they brought that piece of legislation forward, and they took out Germans and put in citizens of The United States.
So since 1933, slave citizens of The United States have been declared the enemy by the federal government.
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Hey, Raj? Yes. One quick point of clarification. In the new students page, underneath your picture, there is the phrase, so let's begin. To know how to fix the problem, you first have to know what happened. Yep. Doctor James Schroeder explains the trading with the enemy act and what it means to you.
[00:44:01] Unknown:
Yep. It's a it's a fantastic it's a fantastic piece of work, and some of those people are dead now. And that has long been forgotten. I was familiar with it because it came out right after I got into this within a couple of years. And we're on the air one day talking, it comes up, and all this has subsequently come about. Paul's improved the audio. We've had a small conference call with doctor Schroeder. I hope we can have another one. But he gets pretty busy in the spring. He's got still working. He's got a ranch and cattle, and he's a veterinarian and all that stuff. So hopefully, we'll be able to talk to him again. He's a damn great American.
Okay? And what doctor Schroeder didn't know at the end of that opus, and he says all we need is a president to come in and sign away and and take away the War and Emergency Powers Act, and everything's gone. And he's right. But you see what Gene Schroeder didn't know was what we do. Because we do that same thing, but we don't have to wait for Trump to do it or whoever's in that office. We can do this individually. And if we get enough of us to do this individually, folks, we're a force. We're a force to be contended with. They're scared as hell of this. They got no defense except to take the mask off. They're in checkmate.
They don't like it. And, William, that's why you've never heard my name. They won't put my name out for nothing. So I'm glad you came back today, William.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's trading with me. Muted?
[00:45:39] Unknown:
No. It's listed as the trading with the enemy act. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. We've got a we have a bunch of lines that are unmuted, and there's background noise and stuff. If you're not talking, press star six and mute your line. Because the more lines that we have open on the conference,
[00:45:58] Unknown:
the more difficult it is to find No. Where a noise is coming from. Oh, good point. Good point. Okay. Well, William, since you've had about twenty four hours to noodle on our conversation yesterday, we didn't drive you away. That's good. Do you have any questions or comments at this point? What do you do for a living? Are you a Bitcoin miner like pretty?
[00:46:19] Unknown:
No. No. I ain't Bitcoin media like pretty. I I I have a credit restoration, a credit repair business.
[00:46:25] Unknown:
I see. Okay.
[00:46:27] Unknown:
Yeah. But, I haven't had a chance. I wanted to have more, input today, but I didn't get a chance to look at the site, the, site yesterday. So I'd I'd, you know, I'm gonna take a look at the site tonight. And as you know, when when you say you keep saying student, what what is the student thing about? What what is this?
[00:46:44] Unknown:
Well, I did you know any of this stuff before you got tuned in yesterday? Well, I haven't looked at your website. I mean, I'm very unfamiliar with a lot of stuff, but I just haven't looked at your website. That's why I said I wasn't able to get a call on it. But when you say Maybe maybe maybe when you go in and do that, you'll understand why I call students because these people don't know any of this stuff. I wouldn't have known any of these things were it not that I had John Benson as my law teacher thirty something years ago.
Now let me tell you, William. I'm gonna evidence it for you what kind of a thin thread we're on right here. K? These guys here's what happened. John had been researching law his whole life, his adult life. He loved the law. And he was a civil service, employee, and he got in in with contracts. So he got particularly interested in contract law. And then he got particularly particularly interested in tax law, which was his bailiwick for the rest of his life. Okay? You're gonna hear some of their information on Saturday if you come around. Okay? And so he had been writing all these things and studying all this stuff. And if John would have died back then, all this would have been in his closet and would have gotten thrown away.
Fortunately for us, he got attended a traffic seminar in Bullhead City, Arizona. He had he had one of his students who was an airline pilot with United and could get him free tickets. So he got him a buddy pass to go down to this thing on traffic in Bullhead City, and he met the other guy, Glenn Ambor, who my other teacher who's still with us. William, you ever heard of Roger Staubach?
[00:48:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just I've been using my phone. That's why it told me why to answer stuff. Yeah. They're pulling back.
[00:48:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, my my other teacher, Glenn, tutored him through Annapolis to the Heisman Trophy in an NFL career. Okay? So that was his bailiwick. So these two met at this seminar, and and Glenn, after getting his arm around what John had, this revocation of election thing, he said we can make a business out of this. And so he formed and they got a business made where they were going around the country and teaching for tax law all this stuff that you're gonna hear on Saturday if you listen. Okay? And so what they did in essence was they hadn't had too many meetings, a few. But at the start, they took all their information, and they sent it all to Philadelphia Service Center of the IRS, which at that time dealt with all nonresident alien returns.
And they said, listen. This is what we're gonna be teaching. We're going around the country having seminars. And if you wanna send any of your agents, if they'll show us their ID, we'll let them not only let them in for free, but we'll give them free class materials. And the IRS wrote them back and said, thank you very much. We're gonna turn this over to the education department, which they did. Because shortly thereafter, the education department showed in and kicked their door in and held them on the floor with glocks at their heads for eight hours. Three offices.
Okay? Now the IRS does not move that let me rephrase that. The federal government or any part of it does not move that quick on anything. And this was thirty five years ago. About. K? So, anyway, they're, going around the country after they did that, before they got raided. They're going around the country, and I was just fortunate enough to have a Russian Jew. You don't know this, Dan. A Russian Jew named named Stan Bravi who became very close with us, one of the most amazing men I've ever met. And Stan, because he had been Russian, and he's Jewish, he knew all this stuff. So when we got onto the line on taxes, he's going every time he'd hear, there was a tax meeting. Roger. Roger. There's a tax meeting in town. I go, who is it? Who is it? He goes, I don't know. It's some guy named Benson. Well, I thought it was Bill Benson who wrote The Law That Never Was.
And so I couldn't wait to get over there and see the guy. And it turns out it was this guy, John Benson, and his pal, Glenn. And they went in there for a weekend seminar that had everybody in the room's head spinning just like some of you that stumble into here and get all this for for the first time. Your head's spinning too. Okay? And so I didn't know anything right or wrong. I just knew there was something of great substance there that really moved me. And I decided to go ahead and pay them and not ask for the money back and go through the process. So at that point, there was about let's just say for round numbers, William, there's about 300,000,000 people in the country. That's thirty five years ago. Okay?
Well, at that point, I was one of a few people out of 300,000,000 that had been exposed to this information. And it was only a couple of months later when they raided them and shut the whole thing down in essence. And out of that 300,000,000, I was one person, and I'm the only one. In the time they were teaching, they had 1,200 students, 12 hundred paid students to file this paperwork and be exposed to this stuff. And at that time, after the raid, I was the only one out of those 1,200 that took this further. And look what I found.
That's the chance that you got this information. You out of three fifty million, somehow get turned on to a message from a guy that was one out of 300,000,000 that took this damn information further or none of us would know it. So that's what you're dealing with.
[00:52:42] Unknown:
Now let me oh, okay. Good. Now why why are you out of the country? Are you do you do that by choice? Or
[00:52:48] Unknown:
No. By choice. You know, I was a air force brat, and our, you know, and my dad was an officer. He was a jet jet jockey. And, everybody who's, an officer in the military gets an overseas assignment once in their career. Well, our overseas assignment was an Alaska and Anchorage. Funny, I had two guys from Alaska at the table with me eating lunch yesterday. One of them lived in Homer, Alaska for, I don't know, eight or ten years, which is one of the most beautiful spots I have ever seen on this globe is Homer, Alaska. Okay? So, anyway, we got stationed up there, so that was considered our overseas assignment. And all my friends were all, you know, air force kids, and they would talk about Spain and Japan and Europe and Germany and all these places they'd lived, and I never got to live there. And I was always jealous and always wanted to kinda live outside the country.
Then what happened to William was the feds after they raided John and Glenn, they came up with them. Well, what happened was John got out in they're in Salt Lake. John got out and started running for senator against Orrin Hatch, and Glenn went out running for whoever the representative spot was, and they get out on the campaign trail and start teaching all this tax stuff. Well, they couldn't wait to get them off the street. Okay? So they came after him in in in court, not for anything here, but forever. Now Glenn had 90 charges against him. Not one of them had to do with this. Okay? So they were after them to get them off the street. Alright? And there's another thing. I'm the only one that took it further. Well, they did. They ended up sending them to jail for fifteen and a half years. Glenn for nine and a half or nine and John for about six at 70 years old in bad health, and they sent him to one of the only federal facilities in the whole system that doesn't have air conditioning in Petersburg, Virginia.
Now what happened, Glenn was sent to Minnesota to have minimum security in Upper Minnesota, and he's a very spiritual guy, even more so now. And he wanted to get into this spiritual, some kind of a preacher program or something that BOP was offering. And so here's where the fickle finger of fate comes in. Some bureaucrat at the Bureau of Prisons got that request and brings up all the the facilities that teach that spiritual program, and they send him to the very same facility that John's in in Petersburg, Virginia. So now they're reunited, and they've got, like, four years there to go out every day and talk about all this tax stuff that they kinda had exposure to already but didn't have firmed up. And it was in that four years that the book that they've got on taxes was written.
Okay? And I was coordinating with them all the time. I'm a pretty good typist because my father made me take typing in high school. And I could type 65 words a minute when I was in high school. Okay? So they didn't have access to a typewriter, and so they would write out everything they were coming up with, send it to me in the mail. I would then type it up and send it back to them. Okay? So they were in that position for a while. And, all that has led up to where we are right now, man. So I consider John Benson I consider John Benson my second father.
My first father gave me physical life, but John Benson with his teachings here gave me a life that I could never even dream of. And now I get to have a lot of you people who I know don't know this stuff because attorneys don't even know it because they don't teach it in law schools anymore. They've been in control of America's law schools for a hundred years. I can prove it. And that means they influence curriculum. And they've gone back and brushed a lot of this stuff out of the law book curriculum, law school curriculum. That's why you can go to any of these lawyers and ask them one simple question, William. What's the legal concept behind the word person?
And you I doubt if you'll find any that know that. Now statutes are written for persons, things, or actions, and the majority of them were written for persons. Well, if that lawyer, that judge doesn't know that, how the hell are they supposed to determine what kind of person you are? For God's sakes, it's elementary. So that's what we're gonna expose you to, and that's why I know you don't know it. I know you've never been exposed to it. And that's why if you choose to, you'll be a student. So that's why I refer to you like that. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
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Yeah. No. Okay. I got I got you. So yeah. Because, I like I said, I've been around for a while, and I've dealt with a lot of different, no. Okay. Alright. I'm in the grocery stores. Excuse me. So I'm here I'm here, and then we've talked to Yusefel, Jonah Bay. You've been familiar with them, Yousefel or Jonah Bay? Nope. No. Not the Moors. No. Those are the Moors. Those are the Moors. Those are more in the in the black nationalist perspective. Okay? And so we've dealt with them for a number of years, but everybody I've come in contact with over the oh, I'm sorry.
[00:58:22] Unknown:
Well, just hold on for a second. Don't forget what you're doing. You can keep your place, but we gotta say goodbye to the folks here for a second. We'll be right back. Gotcha. We can continue. Okay? So, Paul, if you would, please.
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We've got to say goodbye to radiosoapbox.com. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com, clicking on either the Global Voice Radio or Euro Folk Radio links, or just go to your browser and type in eurofolkradio.com. Pick us up right after the top of the hour. Thank you for joining us, and we'll catch you right back here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Alright. Thank you, Paul. Okay, William.
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Now about the Moors, that's the last thing I remember.
[00:59:07] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. So we we, myself and Tony, we like, you know, I said like I said, I started back in 1998, and I went through some various groups then. Like, a lot of them, I can't even remember. But, since we've been dealing with we dealt with the Moors, and the Moors had a pretty good program for for for black nationalism, which I'm all for. I'm I'm all for black nationalism, and I'm I support white nationalism. So I'm not against and just being black nationalism doesn't mean we're against white nationalism. We wanna work with you all because we have a lot of common ground that we can work together on.
So but every time we come in contact with new people I mean, we we meet Tony had the call that he does, and we bring a lot of people, what we call the nationalist movement, the the UCC movement, everybody on to share their strategies with us. Even Tony, we got the one the the the black Indian. What's his name? Chief something. And he was he he kinda spoke like you.
[01:00:00] Unknown:
Oh, what? Like Elijah?
[01:00:02] Unknown:
No. No. Tony Tony probably knows the name because that was Tony's hero. But, you know, they they act like they're some fucking god, and then we we just spoke to bow out to them that they know every damn thing. Right. I'm not Yeah. I'm not guy said, I don't give a fuck about oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. I don't get Land. Sorry about that. We don't
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We got Yeah. Do I I try and keep the language clean here. So Gotcha. Give
[01:00:26] Unknown:
me a Okay. The f bombs. Sorry about that.
[01:00:29] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[01:00:32] Unknown:
I'm sorry. I thought I mean, I thought there was some people saying some stuff like that yesterday, but I can work here. Maybe I'm free to express myself in a subjective way. But, anyway, so we've dealt with a lot of different people, and everybody says they're the way. And, you know, it's, they're the only way, and everybody else is discarded. And I say that, look. Everybody's fighting against the system. Maybe people got different strategies, but everybody's fighting against the system, and we all need to figure out a way to work together to do this because, Oh, I agree. Conquer and divide is one of the attack yeah. Conquer and divide, to me, is one of the tactics that they've successfully that we've allowed them to successfully use.
They've used it for and other conquerors have for a long time. It's nothing new. Well, I like you to be aware they as much because it's us that are the problem. We, the people, are the problem because we're not standing up and doing what we're supposed to do.
[01:01:26] Unknown:
Well, wait. Well well and you can't unless you know what we know because you're not free to be able to do that unless you've gone through this process. You see, here's the big Right. I mean, that's what everybody's William, here's the big piece that everybody's missing. This is the feudal system. They don't understand that. You hear people refer to it as neo feudal. You keep people say, well, they're trying to move us into the feudal system. William, we've been in Babylonian captivity for ninety two years, since March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. That's why that trading with the enemy act is so important because they prove that.
K? I can prove it too. They just prove it from another angle. Alright? And so until we get people to understand that, when you know it's the feudal system, the remedy is simple. Okay. Well, you don't have to know much about the feudal system to know there's only two types of serfs. There was an involuntary serf, which was much akin to black slavery in our country, and there was a voluntary serf where you could volunteer in and out. Well, guess what? Voluntary servitude's legal in the constitution. It's lawful too. The thirteenth amendment says neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist in the state unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime.
Well, what's left out? Voluntary servitude. So voluntary servitude, according to the thirteenth amendment, which was lawfully ratified, is legal by omission. Because they didn't expressly outlaw it, then it's considered legal, which it has to be because everything has to be voluntary. So if you volunteer to go into some type of bondage, well, that's your decision, and that's okay. They also say, and I think in the fourth amendment, that they can impair your ability to contract. Well, that action of selling yourself into bondservant is a contract, and they can't impair that. So voluntary servitude is lawful in the constitution in two places, isn't it?
Okay. Well, there's a voluntary servitude. That's what it's gotta be because it's lawful in the constitution. So that means you can volunteer out at any time. So send them a damn affidavit and volunteer out. Take away your permission. You've erroneously given them throughout your lifetime every time they ask you those questions. Okay? And then you got but here's the other tricky part, and even my teachers. This is what I found. I've I didn't like I hate the tax movement. I hate all that tax crap. Okay? But
[01:04:08] Unknown:
I moved on I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm going. I'm I'm move I moved on to jurisdiction.
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Okay? I moved out of tax and moved over to jurisdiction. In other words, what gives that unelected bureaucrat the power to make a man made law called a regulation and impose it and enforce it on me. What gives him that power? Well, that's what we got. And the because it's the feudal system, what people don't know is how you get out of it. Because the secretary of state is the lord of the federal manner that has to do with all issues involving citizenship. Period. K. That's the secretary of state or the attorney general of Florida wrote me that in a letter.
The attorney SOS, secretary of state, has complete authority over all ALL matters concerning citizenship. What does that mean? Well, that means he's the lord of the manor, the federal manor that deals with citizenship. So what does that tell us? That tells us we send our affidavit to him because he's the person responsible for letting us out. And then after you send it to him, you go over and apply for a passport if you're eligible, and you get the highest form of government issued ID in your name, and your the affidavit is attached to and tied to your new status. And many of our folks here, that's the only ID they carry is their passport card.
[01:05:39] Unknown:
Roger, question.
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Okay.
[01:05:45] Unknown:
Would doing a novation of of contract be any useful in your mind to the government, whether it's state or or federal, stating the that you essentially what different different definitions are in your life?
[01:06:06] Unknown:
What now you're gonna have to clarify me. I don't know I don't remember what a novation of contract is. What is that? So
[01:06:14] Unknown:
novation is essentially essentially what I kinda described. Just a it's a essentially, like, a dictionary of terms to the contract. These are the terms that I'm agreeing to, not essentially your terms, but these are the terms as I see them. What a national is. What a
[01:06:33] Unknown:
What they know believe me. They know what one is. So you don't really have to do that if you want to. I'm not gonna tell you not to. But they know they know I've got that two paragraph affidavit. There's no wiggle room in that thing. Have you looked at
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it? Yes. This is Carl of Utah, c I f. Carl, there's no wiggle room there.
[01:06:55] Unknown:
And and and you're thinking it's all these other contracts, like your marriage license and all these other things that you're innovating? Yeah. Same with driver's license. Okay. Well, what you're oh, well, hold on. When you do this, it exposes their fraud. And that negates all of those contracts because they're all based on fraud. Keep it simple, Carl. Don't complicate it. It works.
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K?
[01:07:23] Unknown:
Now if you wanna do that, you go do that. It's alright. But they know what the hell's going on when they receive these letters. Believe me. The clerk might not, but the people behind them do, as evidenced by what happened with, Jerry back about a year ago. You've heard us tell that story. Right? Jerry sends in his paperwork, gets his passport, and then a couple about a month or two later, he does it for his wife. Well, they're getting ready to go on a vacation to Florida for a week with friends, and all of a sudden, the somebody from the passport office calls his wife. And she says, well, I'm in a meeting. Can you call back in fifteen minutes so she could turn it over to Jerry?
And so that happened. And so the guy on the phone says, listen. Your wife's born in Syracuse, New York. She's obviously a citizen of The United States, and we can't issue her a passport, as a national. She's a citizen of The United States. Well, Jerry and him get into this discussion, and Jerry asked him a couple. He says, well, first of all, who am I talking with? And the guy says Hilton. Okay. Maybe that was Pink, the guy from Chicago that owns the Hilton chain. I don't know. Anyway, you wouldn't give him his full name. And, he also said, can I, what's the which is another thing I teach you guys? Anytime you get in these situations, your one of your questions is, what's the next step in my administrative appeal?
And so Jerry says, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? And the guy goes, I'm the last step. Well, that tells you right there it's bullshit because they're not gonna have the ultimate guy in the administrative appeal process calling somebody on the phone and trying to BS them. Okay? So it was nothing but a bluff call. Alright? And somewhere in that call, Hilton told Jerry, he said, you really know your stuff. This is why you need to know it, William. I don't know if this is gonna happen to you, but these kind of things occasionally happen. And the guy at the passport office told good student Jerry, you really know your stuff.
Thank you for the compliment. Okay? And so he goes, well, we can't do this. Do you want me to send the package with the check and everything back to you or what? And he goes, yeah. Go ahead. And we'll and he's thinking in his mind, well, we'll approach this another way because he knows something's wrong. Okay? So they go off to Florida down there by you, go out on one of those islands for a week, and, come back to New York, cold and snowy. And, lo and behold, in the mailbox is the passport card and the passport book she paid for. It was all a bluff.
They can't stop you from doing this. You've got the power. You just don't know it or recognize it because they've stifled it your whole life with SWAT teams and all this other crap. Oh, no. They've got all this power. You gave it to them. Take it away. This is your power they've stolen. It's like I said, I don't know how biblical you are, William. But if you remember Esau Edom, Jacob and Esau, and and and he traded away his birthright because he was first Esau, and he traded away his birthright for a bowl of porridge. Well, they figured out a way to trick you into giving it back to him. That's what's going on here in the big, big picture.
Take it back. It's your power. You're gonna let them steal it from you? You don't like them anymore than I do. You're gonna let them steal it from you? I hope not, William.
[01:11:06] Unknown:
Okay. I mean, I'm I keep wanting to try to respond, but I got it on mute. I wanna make sure you get your your point out. So that's why that's why I give you delayed response here. Okay. Well, great. Well, I'm talking to questions. Okay. You got any questions or comments on that? No. I'm I'm in the Unity with pretty much everything you're saying here. I just wanna go look at the website and everything. Okay. Well, then I want you to And, I want you to listen to
[01:11:29] Unknown:
I want you to listen to a couple of interviews, and I want you to watch that doctor Eugene Schroeder trading with the enemy act. I there all of the ones that are over there in the new student section are good. There are just a couple of these interviews that are better than others for one reason or another. Okay. And one of the ones I'm gonna ask you to look at first is entitled God's Trump Card.
[01:11:52] Unknown:
K? God's Trump Card. Say it again, say it. Say it. God No. Trump Card.
[01:11:56] Unknown:
Trump card. Not referring to our current president. Okay?
[01:12:01] Unknown:
Okay. Pretty women. Hey. My and my hands are I I I pretty right you are you writing that stuff down? Because I'll contact you later and get that information from you. I can't tell you right now.
[01:12:11] Unknown:
Did you call William last night? Did you get a chance to call William Larry? I know you got his phone number yesterday. No. He didn't he didn't get a chance to. I I know I'm a swan, though, too. We're working.
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Okay. Well Well, not yet, but I I will.
[01:12:23] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Larry likes to work with he likes to work with new students too, and he's very pretty knowledgeable, very knowledgeable, and will help you out a lot. Okay? So Oh, okay. But you're but you guys are gonna and first thing you're probably gonna to do is unlearn a bunch of the stuff that you've been exposed to. Because they're just a bunch of stuff in the patriot community that's just absolute total hogwash. That's all cap letters, bold fringe on the flag, all that hatred garbage. It's garbage. Don't get it out of your mind.
I'll replace it with the real stuff that's real that's actionable that will help you. And if you, if you don't I'll tell you what, William. If you don't like it, I've got an ironclad double your money back, no questions asked guarantee.
[01:13:21] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. I I got I can check to see if my phone is on unmuted.
[01:13:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I said if it doesn't matter, I've got if you don't like it, I've got a double your money back, ironclad, no questions asked guarantee. And you know what that's worth? Nothing. What's that? Because I don't because I don't charge you.
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Alright.
[01:13:44] Unknown:
You're gonna pay me. You're gonna pay me, but you're not gonna pay me with fines. You're gonna pay me with budgets. You're gonna pay me with learning this information and helping others to be exposed to it. That's how you pay me.
[01:14:00] Unknown:
And, let me just say, can you hear me?
[01:14:03] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:14:04] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. And see, every and I done deal with a lot of different people, but every group says the same thing that you just said to me, that they the ultimate. They got, you know, they got that's why I look I look at stuff over. I'll make I'll make a decision. Alright. Okay. Well, I'm gonna do. You know? Do do any of those groups have a fourteen year track record with not one single blemish in
[01:14:25] Unknown:
in interacting with the federal government with these types of concepts and ideas and paperwork?
[01:14:30] Unknown:
Do any of them have a Well, you don't know because the people you you don't know. You don't know. They can tell you anything. They can tell you anything. I don't listen to that. I don't give a I don't give a crap about anybody's track record. I but if it works for me, then that's what that's what that's what's fine for me if it works for me. Alright. Well, you know, people do that. Exaggerate. That's what we found. A lot of people do that.
[01:14:50] Unknown:
Of course, they do. They're trying to get get money out of your pocket at some place. You don't have to believe me. I don't care if you do or not. I don't really care if you go through with this right now. The reason for that Right. Right. Is because my duty is to give people like you an opportunity to let you know you've got a choice that you never knew you had before that works. And if you wanna take that, that's fine. But I'm working off of the prophecy in the Old Testament called the watchman on the wall. Are you familiar with that, William? It says, if you're a watchman on the wall, we all are, if you see danger coming and you don't tell your fellow man, then the blood's on your hands.
But if you tell him and he doesn't do anything about it about Bluetooth. Then the blood's on their hands. Okay.
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That's what I do. Went out. I'm sorry.
[01:15:43] Unknown:
Okay. I'm sorry. My Bluetooth went out. Alright. Well, anyway, I was telling you my motivations here, William, and it's not financial. Oh, okay. It's due I'm duty bound here because for whatever reason, God chose to expose me to these men and learn this lesson. I tried to give it off to a whole bunch of other people. Nobody wanted it, and nobody can understand it. And at some point, I said, okay. It's gotta be you. Because it's super important, and it's gotta be out there. This is world changing, potentially life changing information.
It's incredibly important. It's incredibly accurate, and you'll be exposed to concepts that nobody in your whole time in the patriot movement has ever exposed you to before.
[01:16:31] Unknown:
Interesting. Yes. And so you don't know much about the black boys then? Like, you don't know about much about them them and their strategies?
[01:16:37] Unknown:
Well, I I mean, I know they think Jesus is black and all that stuff. I've never really put much time. Oh, no. No. No. That's nonsense. That's all that nonsense. I'm talking about but they're they're they're they're stuck with the paperwork and nationality and things of that nature. No. No. But I can tell you this. Unless they filed it with the secretary of state, it didn't do any good. Yeah. He's the only guy. They do. They they do.
[01:16:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Yep. Tell, say some? Can I say something real quick? Yeah.
[01:17:06] Unknown:
Let me meet on my
[01:17:08] Unknown:
hold on, William. Waiheed? What? They got all these guys charging thousands of dollars at these conventions, and you can go get all that stuff right here with Roger Sales. The guys online with all the conventions, and they gotta I'll be hearing those guys every day on these different conventions. Come to my web convention. Oh, man. That what's that other one? Dave David Strainer, Strainer, Strainer, Strainer, whatever. Straight. Straight and all these characters. And them other ones, Rice and right. What is the name? Rice? Anyway,
[01:17:46] Unknown:
yeah. Just, get the book and Rice McCloud? You talking about Rice McCloud?
[01:17:51] Unknown:
It's some woman. It's a lot of these people. You could just get all that right here. You know?
[01:17:57] Unknown:
But don't spend money on these conventions and all that mess. I ain't saying no wait hold on. I ain't saying about going no damn convention. I'm sorry
[01:18:08] Unknown:
Yeah, that that's a mess.
[01:18:10] Unknown:
I'm gonna start now either
[01:18:12] Unknown:
Okay. I've done all that. I've seen these conventions and things like that. That's a waste of time. Glad you found us. You know where the information is. You go do your own evaluation and make your own decision. Okay? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I've never I've never in all the years I've been doing this told anybody to do this. It's your choice Right. Because your freedom is your choice exactly like your spirituality. And it's not up to me to influence that. It's I I can probably urge you to do it, you know, and all that kind of stuff. I can give you the advantage of it, etcetera, etcetera. But I've never told anybody. Never once.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
That's right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Well, yeah, I I'd like to tell you. I'll look over everything, and, and I'll be I've I've been getting all the calls for sure. And, like, do you say the the Saturday call is a good call?
[01:19:04] Unknown:
Well, this Saturday this Saturday, because of the timing of the year that we're in April, I'm gonna go back and give you all my teachers are the experts in the world on the tax system. K? Mhmm. I'll explain why that happened on Saturday, but I'm gonna explain the whole background of the tax system that we're in. That we're not anymore, but most people are in. And, hopefully, we're getting out of it. What year do you think that started, William?
[01:19:39] Unknown:
Oh, with the tax system? Yeah. Under under civil war with the Lincoln.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
How about December in England?
[01:19:52] Unknown:
Oh, well, no. He actually they probably done it well before that in ancient Egypt.
[01:19:57] Unknown:
Well, yes. But the specific one we're under started in December in England. I'll tell you what it was, how it operated Oh, go ahead. The doc came about and how they've taken the information and moved it over across the pond and changed a few labels and names, and now they're applying it on us. So that's what I'm gonna explain everything there to you on Saturday.
[01:20:20] Unknown:
You got it. Okay. Alright. No problem. Great. Looking forward to that. What time on Saturday?
[01:20:27] Unknown:
Same time. We're we're very we try and be very good customer. Same time.
[01:20:31] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Thank you. Question? Now you yes. There's Annette. Yes, Annette. What do you got, baby? Let me mute up. Well well, no. Mute, William. I got a I have a question for you. Oh, let me unmute again. Okay. I just unmute it. Okay. Go ahead.
[01:20:46] Unknown:
You said that, well, it kind of the question came to me. Have you have you found Remini? Have you not have you or have you not found Remini
[01:20:57] Unknown:
with the ones that you've been listening to? Because it sounds like you've been listening to some doctors for a while. I yield. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I yeah. I was discharging that. I was doing a lot of different things. Like, yesterday, I told you about the OID that I I Mhmm. Was successful in getting a hundred 65,000 from the IRS because they've been ripping us off. So I've I've had some hits and misses over the years. My whole my whole objective here is that I'm I'm fighting against the corrupt banking system and corrupt government, and I'm uniting with people of this of the same like mindset. Okay? Whatever paperwork you use, if it's successful on all four, and if it ain't, just discard it. Let's get on with the business of overthrowing a corrupt banking system and government. Okay. Alright. What we want you to do is understand what you're doing and understand why you're doing it. K? So it's not just give me $500.
[01:21:46] Unknown:
I'm gonna give you the magic sentence. Okay? It's not like that. Oh, yeah. Because when something's like that, here's here's what happens, William. I'm $500 richer. You're $500 poorer. You've paid somebody to do this to you, so you're not gonna go study, are you? Because you paid somebody to do it. Right? Well, guess what? Then nothing changes.
[01:22:10] Unknown:
Because you Oh, yeah. We, yeah, we don't learn yeah. I ain't paying nobody in fifteen years to do any of this stuff, though. I everything that you can do, I can do.
[01:22:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, good for you. I ain't looking to pay nobody nothing. Yeah. I hope I hope this really pisses you and Tony off. K?
[01:22:26] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[01:22:27] Unknown:
I I I truly do. Because and you should be because the black community has been used to enslave the world. They not only enslaved you and brought you out of Africa, and that was them that did it, paid about $20
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a piece
[01:22:44] Unknown:
$20 a piece and sold you for 2,000 and up. There's a little return on investment for you. It's pretty good. Okay? Then they've given you people. Yeah. Black people in this slavery condition of involuntary servitude, and they've given you a new position where they tell you you're free, and hidden under that is the feudal system where they have a property right in you. It's just different. Uh-huh. And now they've used you to enslave all of us.
[01:23:17] Unknown:
I I have I have one more question. Mhmm. What what specifically are you looking to do with banking? Are you looking to, are you looking just strictly to, be a part of, be a part without, well, let's see. I guess I guess what what particular can you be more specific what you're looking for in banking? I guess I could ask. I yield.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
That's that's a that's a real that's a real wide open question there. I mean, the bottom line is I know what the the banks I know what the banks what what we're allowing the banks to do, and we just need to bring a pure form of monetary system that's gonna represent all the people, not just a specific view. Yeah. So I'm speaking in generalities right now. Yes. Yes. Do you realize that what we're talking about, our stuff here,
[01:24:06] Unknown:
you are at the base of the credit system. You've heard the saying there's no money, there's only credit. This is the case of the credit system. When you're born into this system and they issue a birth certificate, that birth certificate acts in two ways. It identifies you and all your vitals as your birth, And underneath it, they're using it as a commercial document called a warehouse receipt. Are you familiar with warehouse receipt?
[01:24:36] Unknown:
Do you know about that? I'm familiar with what you're saying too. We just we just had a different name for it back then, straw man, and things like that. Right. Right. Right. Man, that's not right. You're not a straw man. It's a slave.
[01:24:46] Unknown:
You're you're a servitude. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. I I agree. I'm just saying that's the verbiage that they use, but you're not a slave. It's not a slave. I understand. Well, then they take that birth certificate now using it as a warehouse receipt. We've got proof of this from a hospital in Austin, Texas who told us the whole procedure on issuing a birth certificate, and it fits right in with our thesis. They put it when the birth certificate is generated at the Bureau of Vital Statistics, it's put into an armed bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours a day, seven days a week because it represents you.
Now they take that birth certificate and they attach it to the bonds that they're going to issue. Isn't bond the root word of bondage? Mhmm. Yeah. Makes sense to me. Uh-huh. When they attach it to the birth certificate, now they're selling bonds five years, ten years, twenty years, thirty years. Trump's proposing a fifty year one next year. Okay? And the taxes are extracted to pay the coupon payments on the debt on the bonds to the bondholder, which is the first step of the entire credit system. The whole banking system is built off that right there.
[01:26:08] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:26:09] Unknown:
Broad and deception. You participate in the in your bible in your bible, which is why people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.
[01:26:16] Unknown:
It gets worse. Agree with that. Worse. Do you know what do you know about loans from banks? Now you this is an area you got some specialty in. Brad's gonna be done. Confused. All good.
[01:26:25] Unknown:
Okay. Do you know that banks don't loan you money? You know that. Right? But yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. I know all that. Come on.
[01:26:34] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just meeting you. No. Yeah. I know. I mean, as I tell you, I've been around for a long time. We've done a lot of this stuff. Yeah. We've done a lot of different lanes and things like that as well. So every loan in in and I found out in the world because it's the same thing down here. Every loan in the world through these people is a fraud because they don't loan you money. You give them your signature on a promissory note that creates it.
[01:26:58] Unknown:
Yeah. So that's why I say the the bigger problem is us. Our our compliance with all this nonsense, we could set up and say, look what they're doing, but we're participating. No. I I We're helping them do what they do.
[01:27:09] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's our mandate is to learn this stuff, be able to internalize it where we really understand it, and go help inform the world about what's going on. That's what I consider doing here. Okay?
[01:27:21] Unknown:
Excellent. Yeah. That way you won't have people telling you that you could buy a Rolls Royce with a SyskV trust fund. Please. Please. Send me $500 and I'll and I'll send me $500 send me $500 and I'll teach you how to get a Rolls Royce with your SyskV trully.
[01:27:41] Unknown:
Go back in the bathroom, please. Go tell him. Tell him, Stache.
[01:27:54] Unknown:
Yes. Hello. You said.
[01:27:57] Unknown:
Please please, mitch,
[01:27:59] Unknown:
the other guy. So because your phone is really scratchy and your Oh, let me mute let me mute my probably my background. Yeah. It might be mine. Yeah.
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Well, he Okay. We have certain,
[01:28:12] Unknown:
kind Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's me. I'm here. He's trying to tell he's trying to tell you why he needs to listen. You got two ears and one mouth. What does that tell you?
[01:28:22] Unknown:
We we try and respect Roger. We just don't interrupt Roger. We try and, call on Roger, and he'll call your name while he you just don't interrupt the show. You destroy the flow of the show with your interruptions. I don't know if you're self aware of that. But if you're gonna add to the show, you need to wait your turn, please. Because it's it's it's just, it's kind of about respect.
[01:28:53] Unknown:
Well, it's also know. It's also a distraction, and it causes confusion. And these are some of the things we've tried to straighten out, but Wahid wasn't coming around when we were doing that. So he may not know all this stuff in Wahid's defense. Okay? So, Wahid Yeah. You got some hey, Roger. Don't just butt in and start talking, please. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot to say, hey, Roger. Yeah. I know you did. So does everybody else knows it too. So try and remember next time.
[01:29:22] Unknown:
Please, Wahid. And I would like to circle back to, citizenship.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
And Yeah. You were on wanting to know something about forty five minutes ago, weren't you?
[01:29:33] Unknown:
Well, I I I wanna know what your views on. You live down in, down in Ecuador. And if you had the chance to give up your citizenship of The US, I don't know if you're ever coming back here. I don't know if you're ever coming back here.
[01:29:50] Unknown:
Well, I doubt it, but I might. I I doubt it, but I might. Why would I do that? Why would I give up my citizenship? So I I wanna talk about the commoditization
[01:29:59] Unknown:
of citizenship. We have something now called the golden passport. Okay? Where somebody can buy their citizenship. Yeah. $5,000,000
[01:30:10] Unknown:
or something. Right. Yeah. It's $5,000,000.
[01:30:14] Unknown:
Yes. And, the concept of selling your citizenship
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Who's your country's would the world do that?
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Would you sell your citizenship in The US for $5,000,000?
[01:30:26] Unknown:
Well, that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about some foreigner who doesn't have any grounding I understand. That can come over and stroke them 5 mil and get this passport. We're not the only country to do that. There's all kinds of countries that do that. Some of them are a quarter of a million dollars. Some of them are a hundred thousand dollars. They're in The Caribbean. They're in Europe. There are other places I probably don't even know about. So Right. Why would I I wouldn't be selling my passport. They'd be selling a passport to somebody that's newly being naturalized,
[01:30:59] Unknown:
first of all. It was a hypothetical question. If you could sell your citizenship for 5,000,000, would you?
[01:31:07] Unknown:
Well, I don't think I would. I because I don't care about the money, and I do care about this. And let me explain to William and Tony why this is so damned important, at least to me, because there's only been two countries in the whole history of our world with organized societies where men had god given rights. That was the first two hundred years of Rome and about the first two hundred years of our country. I think that's pretty damn special, and I don't put a monetary value on that. Stretch and sketch, nor would I. Okay? Now that may not be important to you, but it's damned important to me.
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Okay. Well, that's fine. I was just asking if you'd sell your citizenship for $5,000,000 because I understand that isn't the process now. But
[01:31:53] Unknown:
just think if you had the power to sell your citizenship, if you wanted to move somewhere and not return to The United States and not have the protections of The United. I don't have to come back to The United States. I probably never will. I don't have any real reason to come back unless our information really takes off, and I come back on some nationwide tour. We're about I go to six or seven big cities and have, meetings where people could come meet me and say hello and listen to the thing and bring people and all that. But I just I can't you get on one of the hypothetical things that nobody hypothetical thing. Well, sure it is. I can't sell my passport for $5,000,000,000,000.
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For 5,000,000? Billion? Well, what I'm pretty much concept was that
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there's a golden passport that is commodifying citizenship. Would you agree with that?
[01:32:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. But not for Amer would they yes. Well, no. It's not. But it's not for me. It doesn't include me in that.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
It's for foreigners. Oh, I I agree. I agree. Well, then it's hypothetical. And I'm, yes, and I'm trying to make a concept here. Okay. So we get we live in a box that we get information from as far as The United States and all the laws. That is in a box, and that box is being torn apart. Okay? So do you think that we should think outside the box, or should we we just remain in the box that is being torn apart?
[01:33:27] Unknown:
Well, why do you wanna come up with these hypothetical questions that you know are hypothetical?
[01:33:33] Unknown:
Let let me ask a question real quick. Roger, do you believe that a foreigner should be able to buy citizenship in The US for $5,000,000? Do you think they should be able to do it?
[01:33:44] Unknown:
I understand the concept. I I I've never even thought about it quite frankly. And I understand why countries would do that. You get a quick 5 mil. All you gotta do is let somebody in and naturalize them. Hell, that what they don't know is that they're coming in and being slaves coming into the dam. They paid $5,000,000 to be a damn slave.
[01:34:06] Unknown:
So in the end analysis, the only thing that we can be sure of is that, number one, money cannot buy happiness, but number two, it might be able to buy you the kind of misery you could live with for a while. Well, but happiness can buy you the When you guys are
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Go ahead, Wahi.
[01:34:24] Unknown:
Okay. Earlier, there was a break between you and William. Is that that's the guy Tony that's, talking out, a new guy, Tony? Yeah. Tony and Will. Willie's the new guy. Oh, Tony and Will. But, when you and Will had a break in your conversation, I made a joke about the SESK eBay Trust.
[01:34:49] Unknown:
That's all I was trying to do, make a little lighthearted joke. Then please don't bring that crap up around here. That has caused a lot of people to bring their shit a bunch of shit. And I don't know anybody that's ever collected on it. It makes me so damn aggravated. All this Patriot crap. I'm trying to get that out of your head for god's sakes.
[01:35:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I was making a joke about it saying, I figured out a way to get a Rolls Royce. Send me $500, and I'll show you how.
[01:35:20] Unknown:
Fuck you. Not necessary. Thanks anyways,
[01:35:24] Unknown:
But no Back in the bathroom, Mike.
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I wanna continue my thought on the box that we go back into when we're dealing with this information. And we're at the precipice. Go ahead. Go ahead. Please don't what? Say anything more? I don't Don't take us out to Pluto, man.
[01:35:42] Unknown:
You say, what do I think about something that's an impossibility? And then you say it's not hypothetical. Why do you wanna lead us on these rabbit trails?
[01:35:55] Unknown:
I'm I'm trying to think about the future that we're at the precipice of big changes. Yep. Okay. Fine. That's fine. You don't wanna talk about it. Will you would you Hey, Roger. No. No. God. There's that sketch.
[01:36:10] Unknown:
No. I'll talk about things that are real. You wanna come in here and prophesize and hypothesize on things that aren't real, and we're gonna get into some long discussion and waste a bunch of time and probably get aggravated on something that not outside the box. It isn't even feasible.
[01:36:29] Unknown:
Okay. So so so the the golden passport is real. Right?
[01:36:34] Unknown:
That's correct. You got five trill. Okay. So
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Chinese. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Would you would you agree with this this this statement? The concept idea of citizenship is nothing but compartmentalization for the purposes of making domination and oppression more manageable.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
I got nothing. I got nothing. IU times. IU. Thank you.
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Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger.
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Yes.
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I I want I yesterday, I sent, Mirka on her Mirka might be there. I don't know. But I sent her and I could ask this question of you also about David Knight, Alex Jones' sidekick. Remember him?
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I do. David Knight.
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He's got his own podcast
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now. I know.
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And what do you think of it? He seems to have not he's not at all in bed with, Alex.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
I haven't watched his podcast since he split. I remember him being very professional. Something happened between him and Alex. What the hell has that got to do with us
[01:37:51] Unknown:
in this discussion? No. I was just I sent that to Merka, his podcaster. Her, webs her webs what her Telegram Telegram group. In in her Telegram group, and she she put at the bottom, it's she put w t h, and I was wondering if I that was offensive or she didn't like him, or I don't know what her why her response was that way.
[01:38:19] Unknown:
Well, I can weigh in on that. Maybe her response was that because that that podcast has absolutely nothing to do with anything that we're doing, and why are you Why are you asking you her to go on the record?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I need some No. No. No. I I didn't.
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You come out with more left field crap, Wahid, than I think anybody else we've got around here, quite frankly. Roger.
[01:38:44] Unknown:
And I don't think he's in the box. I don't even think he's out of the box. I think he's so far away from the box. He can't even see the damn box. I think I think he's running from that damn pit bull that that guy released on him at the donut shop. Pepper. Oh, yeah. That's how you and I that's how you and I met with the pet bull. It was the pet bull well, I had two incidents to where I had to go to court. The pet bull the jury duty. Remember, the second one that they had on me, and they haven't sent me it's been over a year. They haven't asked me to do any more of that since I put everybody on notice.
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They probably know you'd get thrown out of the jury pool right off.
[01:39:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I put everybody on notice. I sent the notices out. Me and Paul worked on that for, like, three or four hours.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
Alright. Well, Abe, let me go to Larry here. Larry had something to inject, and Larry's usually pretty grounded. Larry, what do you got usually? What do you got, Larry?
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Okay. Like to get back to the previous subjects.
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Please. Listen to that.
[01:39:48] Unknown:
Yeah. So do you believe a lot of these students and patriots that are coming up with all of this stuff that, supposedly, Trump did. Was that during his first administration
[01:40:02] Unknown:
when he probably was a little bit more naive about things and Well, you know, he wouldn't probably he was. Did what? Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:40:13] Unknown:
Well, I mean, like like, a lot of the things that Julie brought up, earlier, was a lot of that stuff done during his first administration in your opinion?
[01:40:23] Unknown:
Well, what can you refresh my memory on what some of those things are?
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FASB 56.
[01:40:35] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't think he I don't think he did that. It may have been done underneath him. I don't think he I just evidenced you. There's all kinds of stuff going on he's not aware of, folks.
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Larry, you can hang up to her brother. Oh, oh, why? He's got
[01:40:53] Unknown:
Swear, I'm gonna just leave, folks. If you can't follow the rules, you're you're gonna do without me because I'm tired of it. Go ahead, Larry.
[01:41:03] Unknown:
Yeah. He signed all this money over to someone, and, of course, there's the Noahide laws that he signed and this, that, and the other thing. Well, that was George Bush. I don't know that he I don't know that Trump did that. I do know George Bush senior did it. Okay? I mean, yeah, I don't I don't know if Trump did any of this either. It all it's all new to me every time I hear this stuff. But, anyway, then the second thing is yesterday when, when William and Tony called up, one of the first things that Tony, asked was, you know, could we ever get a lodial title to property?
And, I I was wanting you to elaborate on that a little bit more. Wow.
[01:41:47] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Alright. I'll tell you what I called him yesterday. I've known one the two people that have gotten a lodeo title to their property. One's out in Oregon. He was a student of Al Attisk, and the other was the late Chris Cave who got that on a peace property in Northern Arizona. I I it's not my Ballywick. I don't wanna own any land. I don't wanna own anything. Okay? So if you guys wanna own your land, I understand that's there. There's people that have been trying to do that successfully for a long time. Our own Samuel here has been trying to do it in his county up there in Placerville for how many years? Samuel, ten years?
He'd been trying to do it. Other people are doing it. I don't know anybody that's ever done it successfully, and it doesn't apply to me personally because I don't want any. So, it that's about all I know about it, Larry. It's one of the peripheral off of what we do. And as of my knowledge yet, we've never had anybody in our circle that successfully accomplished it. Does that mean it can't be accomplished? Probably not. But I don't know. I mean, I've told you. Ask me anything. If I don't know, I'll tell you. I don't know.
[01:43:04] Unknown:
Right. That's that's not the direction I wanted you to elaborate on. So to answer his question, I was wondering if you could elaborate on how, just like Eugene Schroeder teaches, all of all the mortgages were seized in 1933. The state assumes ownership of all the property, and so all we ever get is a certificate of ownership. And then you could elaborate on, how property can't own property, and that's the reason why we get a certificate of ownership. And that property is not really a a, you know, a thing. It's a right to and for a thing. Well, that's what I was gonna say. You think William
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of even knows the definition of proper properly a property? William, do you know the definition of property? Are you still with us, William? I had to unmute. No. Yeah. I'm still here. I'm just muted out. Anyway, I'm in a noisy area. Alright. Well, if I was to say what's the legal definition of property, what would you tell me?
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You're talking to William? Yeah. You're talking to William? No. Oh, I I don't know why you're I'm like you. I'm not I don't care about that owning your land and stuff. I'm like you on it. But go ahead.
[01:44:14] Unknown:
Alright. Well, it it doesn't matter. What we're talking about now is the word property. Do you understand the definition that's being imputed to the word property? Because there's two different definitions. There's one we use among ourselves. And if I said, is this Tony or William I'm talking to? It's William. Right?
[01:44:32] Unknown:
William. I don't know
[01:44:33] Unknown:
I don't know your voices. I don't know your voices. I don't know your I think Tony's still there. Yeah. Okay. Well, good. Well, if I said, William Yeah. You got a nice car out there that's paid for. And you go, yeah. And I say, well, William, is that car your property? And you'd say, yeah. And everybody on this call would know what we're talking about. But in law, that's not right. Property in in law, property, the thing is the car. And the property right is a right in into the thing. So it's different. So that there's a colloquial definition, and then there's a highly technical definition.
They do everything on two levels, just like that. So if you don't know that's the real definition of property, and I tell you the federal government has made you property, and when in the morning when you go in to shave or brush your teeth or whatever the hell you're doing in front of that mirror, you look at yourself and go, I can't that can't be right. I'm not property. Because they don't understand the legal definition of it. It's a right in and to a thing. It's property. Property is a right. It's not a thing. Capisce?
So these are the things that I'm gonna teach you that I don't think you've ever been exposed to that before, have you?
[01:45:54] Unknown:
Okay. Why don't you keep asking me quick? I got my phone muted. I'm sorry. Well, don't well, I'm muted. Alright. Well, I'm gonna No. I'm gonna annoy the area. I'm gonna annoy you. I'm gonna annoy the area.
[01:46:04] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, anyway, if you haven't known that definition of property, that's the legal definition they're imputing in it. So can you see how we're, they were double minded, William. And in James one, eight, back there in the New Testament, it says a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. And that's why I told you that he went the the for doing this to you in your mind and enslaving you. And once you learn that and start working on it, then you get exposed to what they've done, and you understand it better because you know their techniques. So that's the whole reason. There's nothing we do around here that doesn't have a reason behind it.
K? So, Larry, did that cover what you wanted to cover me to cover with William?
[01:46:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Perfect.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
Okay. Hey, Roger. Let make you know, the the the forward to your book,
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the some people will get like me confused about David Strait, the one that No. I can't help that. Kent? I can't help it. My David Strait There's two David Strait. Before I even know that this other charlatan existed. Okay? And I'm sorry. My friend David Strait would be rolling in his grave if he knew that somebody with his same name was out being a p a y triad and feeding people all this shit so they could get their damn money. Because that's exactly what he's doing that I know of. Yes, Annette.
[01:47:42] Unknown:
Just to let everyone know that, that wants to look it up, David Strait, your, your friend, his obituary is online. So if they wanna confirm that that there's two David Strait, they can do that, Aiel.
[01:47:59] Unknown:
Yes. And he owned a company called Eagle's Nest Home. He was a complete self made millionaire. K? He used to own a company with a partner named Lincoln Log Homes. Some of you remember that. Okay? And then he got in. He designed his own prefab home, and he exported those things to 16 different countries. And he was the only manufacturer of prefabricated homes in the world that could import into Germany because their import standards were so strict. K? He was a hell of a guy. We talked every Sunday, and I miss him tremendously all these years later. K? I'm sorry. I'm sorry they had the same name. I'm sorry this charlatan that's running around charging people absorbent amounts of money for stuff that didn't write has the same name as he does. It upsets me, but not a damn thing I can do about it. I think I added a note in the book that it's not the same guy. Yes, Joan?
[01:49:02] Unknown:
What years was, your your David Strait doing those,
[01:49:07] Unknown:
manufactured homes Do you all fit overseas? Oh, well, you can probably I don't know if it's up anymore. His company is called Eagle Nest Homes. You probably got some of them down there in Costa Rica. He he he manufactured what looks like a round home. Well, he did all kinds, but the specialty was, and it's eight sided. It was called a roundhouse. And those things are incredibly, incredibly effective in hurricanes. There had been several hurricanes where he had those houses built, one above Denver, where I think the wind was a 50 miles an hour or something up there over the they had that structure built and had the FAA FAA facility up there. Well, it was the only thing that survived those winds. It's a big hurricane that came through one of the Caribbean Islands. The only thing standing on the island was his homes because they're kind of round and the wind goes around them. It doesn't just blow it down.
But he was a hell of a guy who one of the finest men I've ever met, and I miss him badly. He's a dear friend. Do you remember what year he was doing those manufactured homes? Well, yeah. It was in the nineties and the eighties back in then.
[01:50:22] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Roger. Can I say something? You you what those people that those charlatan type people that wanna offer, they don't accept the c c v k trust fund. They won't wait for that money to come through. The ones that they want you to pay them cash. Right. They don't know much. Right. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get Don't run while he runs. Get him. Get him.
[01:50:51] Unknown:
Drop ins. That's pretty good, Paul. Okay. We got a couple of minutes left in the show. Not many. It's been another challenging show. I'm sorry to say, but it has been. I don't want them to be. I like them to be real nice. Do people come in? They got questions. We can explain it to them, help them understand what's going on here. Yes, ma'am. Was that Annette again?
[01:51:11] Unknown:
I'm sorry for interrupting you. I didn't mean to step on you. That's okay. Yes. I think your friend died, 02/2012. Probably. If I remember yeah. Okay. I yield.
[01:51:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Great guy. Just a great guy. A lot of what we know now here that I know was rehearsed at his house on Thursday nights because I'd go out there every Thursday night at a beautiful home out in Canton, Georgia, and and we'd cook dinner and and then sit there till the wee hours of the night talking this stuff out, and he always played devil's advocate. He loved to play devil's advocate. And a lot of the answers in the early days came from those sessions right there. That's why I allowed him to write the forward. He was chomping at the bit to write the forward. We had to edit it down from 21 pages to eight.
Great guy. I'm sure I sure do miss him. So alright. Who else has got something here at the end of the show today? Constructive, maybe. Roger? Everybody.
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Do you have any respect for Catherine Ochsner, Fitz?
[01:52:21] Unknown:
Do I have any respect or regrets? Respect. Oh, a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I know I got she. I've I've got a ton of respect for her. I think she's wonderful. I wish she get exposed to our information, but she hadn't gone on going to it yet.
[01:52:37] Unknown:
Right. She was I watched the video, and she's she's she did mention that the only way I can protect my freedom is to get you free. So she's Oh, okay. On board, but she doesn't go yet. This was a video yesterday. And, she mentioned, which I sent you a Andy Scheckman
[01:52:57] Unknown:
Yeah. I watched it. About
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Short. About, yeah, about
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Lot of technical stuff in it. The treasury
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and stable coin. And and Catherine Austin Pitts says that they are going to use the stable coin to basically through the treasury to get around the CBD. And the if the if the if the treasury did the CBD, the central bank digital currency, Congress would have control. And Catherine also pitched yesterday said that they're gonna if this is implemented, the stable coin will get around congress's control of the money supply. Also, she mentioned the 21,000,000,000,000 that, did more. And and isn't it funny that Doge isn't going after that money? That's 21,000,000,000,000, and he's and they're just talking about 1,000,000,000,000.
[01:54:05] Unknown:
Well, what they're interesting Well, I think that they not even I think that they gotta do this a little bit at a time in some orderly manner. That was years ago. They're attacking stuff that they're getting at right now, like USAID. Understood. So I'd like to think that when that get they get the plate clean, should they ever get it clean enough that they'd be back looking and talking to mister Skidmore about that. Or they're doing a Doge thing on the Pentagon, aren't they? I think they're already doing that or they've announced one. Well, that's where all that came from was the defense department, the Pentagon.
[01:54:45] Unknown:
Right. I'm just saying it I think it's funny that they're not even mentioning it, you know, that there is this $21,000,000,000,000.
[01:54:53] Unknown:
I mean, I can't
[01:54:57] Unknown:
just put yourself in one of their positions up there and getting all this stuff dumped in your lap. And people go, why haven't you done this yet? Why haven't you arrested people? Why haven't you this or that? By the way, Elon Musk made an announcement last night that they have uncovered the generals who are running this the the the Tesla crap, and they've turned them all the information over to Pam Bondi. So let's see if something happens. Yeah. Hey, Raj. Pam. They got so much crap on their more thing. On their blade sketch. How the hell do they even say grace over it? For God's sake. I understand. Well, I'm not sure you do or you wouldn't ask the question.
[01:55:40] Unknown:
Go ahead. One more one more thing. Catherine also fits brought the FASB, legislation to my to my attention. And she says that it was passed during the Kavanaugh hearing by both houses or the senate, both parties, and it was signed by president Trump. Now do you know what FASB 56
[01:56:07] Unknown:
is about? It's a second set of books. I know that. And I can't imagine them I can't imagine them passing a bill in the senate. It had to go through the house first for them to pass that in the hearings on Kavanaugh to sit on the Supreme Court. You're saying they passed that at the same time? Those are two totally different issues, Sketch.
[01:56:30] Unknown:
No. The the Kavanaugh's was a distraction
[01:56:34] Unknown:
while they passed it. Oh, okay. I got you. And it was signed by president Trump. I I don't know anything about that. I know how to tell people to get out of federal slavery. No. I understand. You think that I'm the great Karnak, but I'm not.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Karnak the magnificent. Hey, Rog? Hey, Roger. Roget. What do you think of general hate no. No. No. No. No. No. I was first. Rog, I think I'd what they're going after Excuse me. I I like to think of it as the boy sticking the finger in the dike. That comes first. Then you start refilling the reservoir. But you gotta plug the dike. They're dealing with stuff that pending payments and and current payments. They're dealing with stopping a hemorrhage.
[01:57:27] Unknown:
What they're trying to do is keep the country on the edge of solvency, maybe, if they can. Mhmm. Because otherwise, it's going over the cliff, folks.
[01:57:39] Unknown:
Yep. Absolutely. Roger. And we're at the end of the program, sir, Wahid. Hang on just a second, and we'll catch you at the end. Mark, same to you, I guess. Unless is there one word to answer?
[01:57:51] Unknown:
Real quick. Yeah. I just wanna tell, Waheed that learning the information is not about learning the information that's distracting, and that's what he's sharing.
[01:58:03] Unknown:
I don't know why he thinks I'm Carnac the Magnificent, man. I'm supposed to know every damn thing in the universe, for God's sakes. I know about how to get you free and hopefully help keep you free from the oppressive federal government that you've been tricked into giving your your your body to. I try to help you out of that. That's my expertise. Yes. Who had something else? Roger.
[01:58:28] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Roger, what's what's the name of your book, and is it hard copy?
[01:58:34] Unknown:
Right. No. You can't get it right now. No. It's not offerable. Hopefully, it will be soon. Sovereign to serve government by the treachery and deception of words is the title. But the whole damn thing is screwed up out of the bit book patch, and that's where we are. There isn't one available now. I'm sorry to say.
[01:58:55] Unknown:
Might be able to find a you Let us know.
[01:58:59] Unknown:
I can borrow I can borrow a package. Ebook. I gave it to Jeff Rentz to put on his website two weeks ago. You can find it over there for free. It's all over the web for ebook, but I can't help you with a with a hardback. Rent. Okay. Rentz, r e n s e dot com.
[01:59:19] Unknown:
You finally got a hold of Rentz?
[01:59:22] Unknown:
You finally were able to talk to Jeff Rens? And I was on his show twice, Waiheb, in the last couple of weeks. Oh my goodness.
[01:59:28] Unknown:
We talked about that last year. Guess what? Guess what, Waiheb?
[01:59:32] Unknown:
We didn't get one person coming to the show from those two appearances on million plus audiences, not one. Ask them, Wahid. Is there anybody in the audience from the Jeff French show? Crickets.
[01:59:51] Unknown:
Mhmm. K?
[01:59:53] Unknown:
I don't think those folks were awake. There may be a bunch of them, but I don't know what the problem is. I didn't have a real chance to talk about our show or anything else, and Rince put put didn't put our information website in. He put Dave and Kaye's website up on the website. So I I don't know. K? But I do know that not one person came from two hours on the Jeff Rint Show, Waebe. That's very true. At this at some point That was
[02:00:20] Unknown:
one of the questions I asked you. I you you said, I can't get on his show. Ask him. Don't ask me. Ask you. Ask Jeff Rint.
[02:00:28] Unknown:
I I finally got on. You got we got a good email address. Bunch of you wrote him emails, and he came back and invited me on the show. He loved the first show. He invited me back, and I got the impression he didn't like the second so so much. I don't know why. I don't really care. Evidently, his audience did not take anything we said seriously, so I had two two appearances on the Jeff French show.
[02:00:53] Unknown:
Mhmm. Roger.
[02:00:56] Unknown:
Larry.
[02:00:58] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm pretty sure, when I was listening to the first show, as soon as you got off the show, they went right into talking about aliens.
[02:01:08] Unknown:
Well, I mean, that's Jeff's orientation. I told you all that. He's always been that way. He doesn't think there's a remedy here. He's not spiritual, so he doesn't believe any biblical ending and any relief there. So I guess that's the way he's oriented, and god go do that. I don't care. Hey, Larry. I want people that are interested in our information. You know if they're interested, don't you, Larry, when you present this to somebody?
[02:01:37] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. Yes, Paul. The email address that actually got Roger on the show was sightings, as in UFO sightings, at mind spring dot com.
[02:01:50] Unknown:
Yeah. He's a big UFO guy, and he's a real contrarian. Remember when he got on and panned the damn, you know, I carry one for all that? That'll kill you. I said, well, nobody in our audience has died from it. So some of his ideas are wacky. I thought that his audience would be open to the message. Boy, was I wrong. Okay. I can accept it. I'm gonna go find somebody who will wants to listen. Okay. So the next target, Waiheed, the next target is Infowars. What do you got, Joan?
[02:02:26] Unknown:
I heard, Jeff Rent, one time say that he thinks that the fake dude the fake dues are, aliens. That that's why they're so weird. That's why they're so Oh, yeah. Not right not right.
[02:02:43] Unknown:
Would would Nephilim fit in that as aliens? Because that's what I think they are.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
I mean, I don't know. But I just remember Jeff Ritz said that back around the time you were right before you went on.
[02:02:58] Unknown:
Okay. Well, it could be. If that's his belief, great. I don't disagree with him. I think they're the Nephilim. If but he's had no biblical orientation. Jeff doesn't that I've ever really seen very much.
[02:03:13] Unknown:
Roger. Hi, Roger. The the, prison planet, Jeff, Alex Jones, I think you'd have better luck with the youngster. What's his name? The other cohost.
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Oh, I think the other one or or or Harrison really is the one that I think would really who would listen. He listens. The others talk. K? Now listen. Y'all have aggravated me for about two damn hours now, and I'm leaving. Okay? So you you you aggravate each other for a while.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
Have a good day, Roger.
[02:03:45] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll see y'all tomorrow. And, you know, some of you some of your minds are unbelievable. Alright. I'll see you tomorrow.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Very fruitful. Fruitful minds that lead to confusing conversations, I guess. Thanks, Raj. And
[02:04:05] Unknown:
poof. Okay. I could Paul Paul Paul. I could Paul, I couldn't think of the young guy's name. The young guy on Alex Jones. The one cohost. What's his guy's name?
[02:04:20] Unknown:
Why don't you take a look on their site and find out?
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Hey. Hey. Hey. How's it going? I haven't heard from him, and, the
[02:04:30] Unknown:
Owen Shroyer.
[02:04:32] Unknown:
I don't think you should hear what I have to say, Mohit.
[02:04:37] Unknown:
I I I do I do say, hey, Roger. I said, hey. Nobody heard me say, hey, Roger before I interrupted. I'm always accused of interrupting, but I I always said, hey, Roger.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Well, you just cut it off at that until you're acknowledged. Let him finish his thoughts first. It's just common respect.
[02:05:06] Unknown:
But will William and Roger there was an in there was an interrupting interruption. They stopped talking. Stopped talking. Him and the the what's the guy's name? The new guy, Larry William. He he had stopped talking, and there was a break. There was a break. And then I said, hey, Roger. But and then I made the CVK Syskebe Trust joke. And and nobody heard me. So I guess they knew him. What what was it was
[02:05:33] Unknown:
it on topic? No. It wasn't on topic. So you just threw a wrench into the conversation that didn't need to be there, Wahid.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
But it it was during an interruption, and it was on topic because they had first they first were talking about No. It wasn't.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
No. It Do you remember?
[02:05:56] Unknown:
It had nothing to do what they were discussing.
[02:06:00] Unknown:
Just because somebody stops to take a breath doesn't mean that's an opening for you to derail the conversation by throwing a joke in there that had absolutely nothing to do with what they were talking about. Nothing. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Zilch. No. No. Spike. Spike. Spike. Lay down.
[02:06:21] Unknown:
Good god. That was how me and Roger met with with the pit bull.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
He don't like you, though. The pit was
[02:06:28] Unknown:
I know. You know, I had two or three of those situations. I don't know what's and I met the guy. The guy the guy that whose pit bull attacked me, not not that the the second pit bull. The, the homeowner, he he parks his car next to our bank. Is somebody making a joke? Is somebody laughing in the background? Anyway, he parks his car next to the bank, and I told him about his dog. And we had a long discussion. He's a pretty nice guy, but, he it scared though. It scared me to death.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Mhmm. Well, he we're crying in pain. Okay?
[02:07:12] Unknown:
Stop talking about the damn dog.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Please please mute. They're robbing the bank. Get out of the bathroom. You might protect the bank.
[02:07:24] Unknown:
Hi, Dane. Andrew,
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Remember the one about the jury duty? Then I had the jury duty situation. Remember that, Paul?
[02:07:33] Unknown:
Yeah. But but but, Wade, this show isn't about all things Wadeed. And everything Wahid ever wondered, pondered about or, what has ever been afraid of. This is not at Wahid's hour. Katherine Austin Fits. We don't care about that. We care about affidavits to the Secretary of State and bowing out of the system by saying thanks, but no thanks.
[02:08:12] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:08:14] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:08:16] Unknown:
Hey.
[02:08:17] Unknown:
Not to get off that conversation, but I do have a question in regards to taxes. And I just kinda was looking for an input from anybody in the in the, audience. So I've helped a friend exit the system, and she just received a notification from the IRS that, they are expecting her tax returns from, '23. She actually did in late twenty two. Any idea? I just told her just to I told her just to resupply them, with more, you know, more affidavits. But, any any other suggestions from anybody?
[02:08:56] Unknown:
No. Absolutely. You send them a cover letter saying this is for your records. This is to remind you that I have already served notice with the attached affidavit, that I am, none, that I am not a citizen of The United States, and I am not a resident. It is never it it is not now or ever has been my intent to avoid paying a tax that I lawfully owe. It is my understanding the only taxes that I am responsible for paying are eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, and neither of those taxes apply. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you. Hugs and kisses.
[02:09:47] Unknown:
Kiss my ass. That's just that's kinda essentially what I told her, but I just thought I would run this past the group to see if anybody else had any anything I had missed. But, anyway, just, what they sent? Just wanted to sign. What they sent her was a confirmed
[02:10:00] Unknown:
was a confirmatory writing. They gave her notice that they expected her to file a return for 2023. And if it's unrebudded, it becomes an agreement that she is bound to, that she has to file one for 2023. She responds to their letter with, I take issue with your letter. I've already put you and your agency on notice that, I am a national. I am not a citizen of The United States. I am not a resident.
[02:10:36] Unknown:
Okay. It's a confirmatory right. What I've told her to do.
[02:10:40] Unknown:
Yeah. And she's gonna do it quickly because they'll proceed as soon as as soon as x number of days go by. After that notice, they'll proceed.
[02:10:52] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:10:53] Unknown:
Well, I don't know. Don't ignore it.
[02:10:56] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. Never ignore anything from the IRS. Yeah. What will he Hey, Paul.
[02:11:03] Unknown:
I know you're gonna really be amazed. I haven't even gotten started on the passport yet. It's been over a year. Not like, you said start off with the passport again. The first thing to do with the and you said there was a new there was a new card, a card type. Last time we spoke on this issue, I've I've been away for about three, four months. But, the first procedure to take as far as the passport is concerned.
[02:11:34] Unknown:
You sent an affidavit to the secretary of state. I believe, MERCA and, Pageant and them helped you with that.
[02:11:43] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yes. They did. So
[02:11:46] Unknown:
And and then you put, notices. You put your local officials on notice. I helped you with that, and now you need to apply for a passport using a 11. So do it.
[02:12:05] Unknown:
I have a I have a friend that, me and her, roommate together, and she she has she has a passport. Will her passport be similar to the one that I'm going to, get?
[02:12:18] Unknown:
Yes. It'll look the same. It'll look the same. The difference will be in the computer system and in the files of the secretary of state. That's where the difference will be. They know who you who and what you are. The passports, for all intents and purposes, will look identical. They may have a couple of different numbers on them or, like, a different number of stars or this, that, or the other thing. What's important is what is on file and in possession of the secretary of state. That's the only thing that's important. Just attach and have that and just impose an affidavit include an affidavit with your DS 11 passport application.
[02:13:03] Unknown:
In other words, I I would put, something I would send them the same when I sent to the secretary of state, and I would also I would inform the passport people that this is already on file. I would inform the passport people. This is already on file with the secretary of state, this, this copy I'm giving you of my, God. I can't think of a word. I don't even think you need to do that.
[02:13:33] Unknown:
I don't even think that you need to do that. Just, just include a copy of the affidavit with the passport application.
[02:13:41] Unknown:
I don't have to I don't have to send them a separate letter telling them this is on file with the secretary of state's affidavit. I don't you said I don't need to do that. Think so.
[02:13:50] Unknown:
Dude, I've read some of your letters. I think it would only confuse them. And lucky for you, you have a roommate that already applied for and got a passport so she can help you with the application.
[02:14:04] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. Correct. Thank you so much, Paul. You and you and Roger selves have been, very valuable, and thank you.
[02:14:12] Unknown:
Well, you're welcome, Wahid. Go forth and be spiffy.
[02:14:16] Unknown:
And and he's very patient with you.
[02:14:20] Unknown:
It only took us, like, four hours to to get the notices straightened out, but it it got done.
[02:14:29] Unknown:
It was a painful four hours, but it got done.
[02:14:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I know Andy was driving across what was it? North North Dakota at the time. He almost went driving off through the bushes. He's getting frustrated.
[02:14:46] Unknown:
I I know this is a hypothetical, but would you sell your citizenship for $5,000,000?
[02:14:54] Unknown:
Sketch sketch sketch. I wanna hear I wanna hear where you're going with that. But, why he kinda stepped on the gentleman before before that? Is there anyone in the audience that has any thoughts concerning the gentleman's what the gentleman asked? I don't wanna hear what you have to say, Sketch, or where you're going. I yield.
[02:15:13] Unknown:
I don't know who that was. I didn't hear it.
[02:15:18] Unknown:
It were you what was I heard?
[02:15:22] Unknown:
I I didn't hear anybody. I don't know who that was. Okay.
[02:15:27] Unknown:
Guy with the friend that, the IRS, is that is that, is that a completed I guess it is. Okay. Go ahead, Sketch. I do wanna hear where you're going with your thoughts. I yield.
[02:15:42] Unknown:
Well, I asked a question. Who here, hypothetically, would sell their Cision ship for $5,000,000, Annette?
[02:15:51] Unknown:
Oh, I I wouldn't because, you know, I I am what I am. I am a national. I don't know if that's my phone that's screeching. If it is, I apologize. I I would not. I yield.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
Say you wanted to move to, let's say, another country. Would you trade your citizenship That for another and you didn't wanna come back to The United States?
[02:16:25] Unknown:
That's an interesting question. I I I would have to have some inner witness that I should do that.
[02:16:35] Unknown:
Right. Well, I'm still talking about the I was just talking I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[02:16:40] Unknown:
Well, no. I'm I'm finished. I just have to I would have something inside of me telling me to do so. You know what I'm saying? I would have to have something more than just my thoughts telling me to do that.
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Right. I know. And it it wasn't a hypothetical, the commoditization of citizenship. It it occurs. And I think if if, say all the there are there are, societies within societies here in America. There are Mexicans. There are are the blacks. There are, you know, the Chinese. Just think what power they had if they could all sell their passports and move somewhere else. They'd have power. It's about power. You know? Mhmm. And it's about thinking outside the box. The only reason I brought up the box was is that we tend to, stay in the box that is falling apart. We I think you we would all agree that the box of The United States is falling apart, and we we go back into the box when we deal with this information.
And I think to move forward, we have to go we have to have new concepts, new ideas. And that's the only reason I'm I think the only reason I bring up interesting or things that interest me to Roger because I value his opinion.
[02:18:10] Unknown:
I think what we're doing is we're we're taping our own box back together again.
[02:18:16] Unknown:
Okay. So I agree this experiment only happened once. But, and we did have supposedly, I don't know, you could say supposedly we had a republic, but I think it was correct from the very beginning. So why stay in that box? Why stay in that box and continue to smuggle with the old information that is presented to us? Why not start new things? Because we're at the precipice now where things are falling apart, and we're gonna have to rebuild. And, the concept of, going back is kind of, I don't know if it's insanity, but thinking you're gonna get a new you're gonna go back in time and use the the old tools that have been corrupted aren't gonna be corrupted again, I think, is is a fallacy.
You know?
[02:19:17] Unknown:
Well, I think the problem with it getting corrupted was people weren't paying attention. If people would have been paying attention, maybe it wouldn't have gone so horribly off the rails. Woman was told, we gave you a republic if you can keep it. That's what the people failed to do. They failed to keep it. And personally, me, I wouldn't sell my citizenship for 5,000,000, maybe 10. Because, you know, 5,000,000 doesn't go as far as it used to. No. I agree. No. I agree. It's not enough. Be a buyer.
[02:19:51] Unknown:
Bring me a buyer. I'm ready. Yeah.
[02:19:55] Unknown:
Hey, Tyrone.
[02:19:58] Unknown:
How are you? Sketch, what got you thinking on that thought?
[02:20:05] Unknown:
Com video, actually. I put it in the chat, today. It is a just a minute. I will look it up. I'll have to, go to another
[02:20:23] Unknown:
No. Another copy.
[02:20:25] Unknown:
His name is just a minute. I have it on my other. His name is just a minute. He is a intellectual. He's a philosopher. His name is Shadid King Bolson. Okay? And he talks about the, con col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col col He he's saying that well, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth, but it it was very valuable to me that, he he he he thinks outside the box, and he changed his perspective my perspective. And I think he'd change your perspective if he watched the video.
I can try and What's the name of the what's the name of the video? I'm sorry for interrupting. What's the name of the video? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The video is called Shahid Bolson. I can spell Shahid Bolson if you want. Sends a message to the Israelis.
[02:21:43] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:21:45] Unknown:
And he it it kinda blew me away, really, because of his his understanding of, that I a perspective I'd never heard about that, I'll let you'll have to watch it, and I I couldn't he he has a way of words. Okay. So I'm just Shahid
[02:22:09] Unknown:
is spelled
[02:22:11] Unknown:
S h a h I d. So s h a h I d.
[02:22:20] Unknown:
And Boleson is b o o
[02:22:23] Unknown:
o s e n. Okay. Thank you. Sends a message to the Israelis. Thank you. And basically, he says that the money powers, the people in control are, they are Semitic, antisemitic. As far as the, well, it's hard it's hard to explain. But listen, what it's only eighteen minutes, and it will change your specific your perspective. I guarantee it. If not I'm sorry. I even brought it up. Alright. No. No. No.
[02:23:03] Unknown:
Oh, okay. So, so what aspects of that made you think about changing citizenship or or selling citizenship?
[02:23:13] Unknown:
Well, the golden passport thinking outside of Boston.
[02:23:16] Unknown:
He brought up the golden passport, and he said that, as, societies, they have power. They have, the buying power. They're consumers. But if they took Hello? The middle man if they took the middle man away, they would have and and negotiated their own, negotiated their own, purchases versus having a middle man, they'd be they'd have much more power.
[02:23:46] Unknown:
Thank you. Thank you.
[02:23:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Ayil.
[02:23:52] Unknown:
Ayil.
[02:23:55] Unknown:
Someone want to just start saying something?
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Is his brother Felicia?
[02:24:03] Unknown:
Say that again? Big o.
[02:24:07] Unknown:
Is his brother Felicia?
[02:24:10] Unknown:
I don't know if he has a brother, but this brother really, changed mine. And I did send it to you, Brent, and I did put it in a private chat today, and I was hoping you'd have an opinion on it.
[02:24:23] Unknown:
I haven't had time to look. I've I've been
[02:24:26] Unknown:
I've been listening to what's been going on here. No. I understand. I but I value your opinion, Brent, and, that's why I sent it to you.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
Well, I was just gonna say, Sketch, I didn't I didn't sell my US citizenship. I gave it away to him. I told, Anthony Blinken at the time that I didn't wanna be one of his freaking slaves. Yeah. And that was freaking
[02:24:57] Unknown:
Right. And maybe a national citizenship would be 10,000. Right? That, Paul wants. You know? Maybe
[02:25:08] Unknown:
Well, no. Is that gonna be is that gonna be gold, silver, or any other kind of precious metal?
[02:25:15] Unknown:
I would say you would want some precious metal to sell your citizenship. Yeah. You don't wanna sell it for Fiat.
[02:25:24] Unknown:
You know, actually No. Actually Oh, I'm echoing. So so, if someone would, instead of monetary, get a what's that called? The deed that they own. I forgot what the deed is. And the property rights to property, that would be worth more. One that's useful. So land with the with the, that that deed that y'all were talking about earlier with the water rights, that would be that would be more valuable, I think, than the money I yield.
[02:26:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like a I'd like a section or two of, some some properties almost anywhere. It's a beautiful planet out there. But, yeah, that's what I always wanted was a section of land be solely self sufficient and have my own nuclear bomb so I can tell the government, hey, man. Get off my get off my property. And it would be my property, not some fish tissues man made what is it? I mean, we're in twilight zone. This is ridiculous. Always blows my mind when I ponder on it.
[02:26:50] Unknown:
Beliefs are that way? I think you already gave them an ad on bond with that affidavit. They don't know what to do with it. If they fumble with it, it blows up in their face.
[02:27:01] Unknown:
That is paper terrorism.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
It's frivolous. It's frivolous, I say. A frivolous argument.
[02:27:10] Unknown:
It's all man made poopy. That's primarily what it is. It's a fiction. And we go along with their it's a religion too because we go along with it. We pay our dues. And, yeah, if we really want change, we gotta change our currency that we're currently being controlled with. That is a keystone to our servitude.
[02:27:42] Unknown:
And I just wanted to mention one last
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Can't hear you. Go ahead.
[02:27:47] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. I wanted to make say one more thing about, what was expressed by Catherine Austin Fitts. She has the hypothesis that Doge is being brought in and going through all the databases of all these agencies, which is good information, most of it, right, about the citizens. And they are putting it on a c rom and going to privatize it with the new AI to to do more controlling. So, basically, they're trying to privatize the government operation to, get away from the people controlling the government, basically. They're they're gonna privatize it all.
So your representative is No. Exactly. I yield.
[02:28:53] Unknown:
Wouldn't be surprised.
[02:28:56] Unknown:
Hi, Sketch. Hi, Scott. What was that $21,000,000,000,000 amount that those should have gone after?
[02:29:08] Unknown:
Well, they haven't mentioned it. Yes. Skid Catherine Austin Spitz. Okay? And, she tasked, professor Skidmore at one of these universities and their whole class to go through the DOD and the, unfunded liabilities that they supposedly have, and it added up to $21,000,000,000,000. I don't know if you remember Joan on September 10. Good old Donald Rumsfeld says, we have $3,200,000,000 that we can't account for before 09:11. Yeah. So that kinda got swept under the rug. Well, but those those unaccounted, funds have continued since, after 09:11 for, I guess I don't know. But it she they they documented $21,000,000,000,000.
[02:30:08] Unknown:
And did did that 21,000,000,000,000
[02:30:11] Unknown:
go towards the fifth? And it was stolen.
[02:30:15] Unknown:
Did it go toward the fifth? Well, no.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
No. Well, I think it I don't know what it went towards, but, Catherine thinks it it it it that's enough money to create an off world civilization.
[02:30:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you.
[02:30:33] Unknown:
Or underground civilization.
[02:30:37] Unknown:
Well, there's plenty of those.
[02:30:39] Unknown:
And, Sketch, if I may ask about, Shahid Bolton, sends a message to the Israelis, and you said something about him saying that Israeli Israel or Israelis are, anti Semite. Does that mean they're against Palestinians?
[02:31:00] Unknown:
Well, you'll have to watch the video. I can't put words I can't explain. I'm not very good explaining it, because of the complexity of the topic that he discusses, but it's the dynamic between The United States and Israel.
[02:31:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay.
[02:31:20] Unknown:
Basically, it is project. It was from the beginning, and the DOD just uses that for their, their, increased monetary, you know, the they're they're using all their weapons over there to test them, and they're making bank because they can say, oh, let's keep this war going. Right?
[02:31:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:31:46] Unknown:
And they're using they're using they're using Israel as a as a colonization project, basically. But I I I think you should watch the the videos in the chat. But no it's right in between nurse Hazel and Jay Grant, the last post in the chat.
[02:32:08] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:32:09] Unknown:
It's eighteen minutes, and I think it'll change your perspective if you listen to him carefully. I mean, yet, I think it's, interesting. That's the only reason I bring it up. It might help other people wrap their heads around about the narratives, the competing narratives that we have in our heads. Mhmm.
[02:32:35] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:32:37] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Would you kindly, bring that video up so all of us can watch it at once, if that's possible.
[02:32:48] Unknown:
What video is that?
[02:32:51] Unknown:
The one sketch is, talking about it's eighteen minutes. Plus, it'll probably give our heads a chance to cool.
[02:33:01] Unknown:
You mean with, with Catherine who's, having fits? No. No. Shahid.
[02:33:10] Unknown:
Shahid Bolton.
[02:33:12] Unknown:
Whose brother is full of Shaheed.
[02:33:21] Unknown:
Sorry.
[02:33:26] Unknown:
I think so. I'm, I'm I'm I'm working on something at the moment.
[02:33:40] Unknown:
Well, if you want the video, it's the in the chats, it it's the last chat I put in there. It's between nurse Hazel and Jay Grant.
[02:33:52] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:33:52] Unknown:
Chase gets back onto that, spelling US citizen shit thing.
[02:33:58] Unknown:
No. I don't. Stop talking. I was asking a question. I wasn't done talking, Gregory. I was asking a question about the video. Okay. Now I forgot what the question was. Dang it.
[02:34:18] Unknown:
I didn't hear that. Excuse me.
[02:34:27] Unknown:
Hey, Gregory. Anyway, alright. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm I'm okay. So it's it's in the chat. Can you, can you copy it and paste it into the chat so the so the right thing is is at the bottom of the chat? And I'll just go grab it.
[02:34:50] Unknown:
Yes. I will. Just a second.
[02:34:52] Unknown:
Somebody Sir, may I have another? Please, may I have some more? You want some more?
[02:35:00] Unknown:
Insulin child.
[02:35:05] Unknown:
I just did it.
[02:35:08] Unknown:
You'd you you did it? Well, don't let any well, if anybody asks you if if you did it, deny it.
[02:35:16] Unknown:
Admit No. I put the I put the link at the bottom for you. K.
[02:35:22] Unknown:
Whenever you do something, don't, you know, always deny it. Admit to nothing. That's what always works to me works for me.
[02:35:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, do you get my messages, my private messages to you about Wahid?
[02:35:39] Unknown:
No. No. I have not checked the, chat or copied the messages yet.
[02:35:44] Unknown:
No. You'll get a good belly laugh out of him.
[02:35:48] Unknown:
I will.
[02:35:49] Unknown:
And and Andy also. But he's not here. Andy's not even
[02:35:55] Unknown:
yeah. Andy's not even here anymore. Yep. He, he has very little patience for Wahid.
[02:36:09] Unknown:
Yeah. I know.
[02:36:11] Unknown:
They usually don't it doesn't take very long for him to say, it's.
[02:36:17] Unknown:
I was at my shift then also.
[02:36:21] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Okay. So let's see this. Turn that off. Copy. And let me see if I can, the American Journal.
[02:36:42] Unknown:
Thanks, Brent, for putting that in there.
[02:36:45] Unknown:
I'm working on it. If you could address them, what would
[02:36:51] Unknown:
I'm working on it. You know? Can. I'm working on it.
[02:36:58] Unknown:
Competing narratives, I think, is an interesting concept, and he discusses it.
[02:37:08] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:37:10] Unknown:
If you could address them, what would be your message to the Israeli people?
[02:37:15] Unknown:
You know, in the Muslim and the Arab world, we sort of have been taking it as a truism, you know, for years that The United States basically serves Israel, that America is controlled by Zionists, and that the US government will do anything, no matter how much it costs to save and protect Israel. I think there's a lot of Israelis who probably think that way too. But an objective, rational assessment, of the situation would paint a very different picture. I think Israelis need to recognize, if they don't already, that The United States is not your savior.
It's your worst enemy. The US, whether you know it or not and whether Muslims understand it or not, is actually treating Israel the same way that they treat everyone else with complete contempt. I mean, look, they are supporting Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the most unpopular, the most despised, the most corrupt, the most incompetent, the most psychopathic, delusional, and despotic ruler that Israel has ever had. And he's responsible for both prolonging and worsening the conflict with the Palestinians. Netanyahu has made a career, on diverting attention away from the, internal domestic concerns that actually matter, to Israeli citizens, that matter the most to Israeli citizens by endlessly talking about security and the supposed threat, that Israel faces.
And, of course, the domestic problems in Israel just get worse. And the, conflict and the security situation actually just gets worse. And America loves it. They don't care about Israel's domestic issues. They don't care about the, socioeconomic issues, the socioeconomic concerns that Israelis have, the high cost of living, the disparity between rich and poor. They don't care about corruption, in Israeli society and so on. And these are the, predominantly, these are the issues that matter the most to Israeli citizens, to American vote, to, Israeli voters. But as far as America is concerned, the only thing that matters is continuing the strife and conflict. That's all they care about. They don't care about the welfare and the stability of Israel, the safety of Israeli citizens.
You see, Israeli citizens want to treat Israel like an actual country, and they expect it to behave like an actual country. And they think that, their lives and their concerns should matter like they would in an actual country. But to The United States, Israel is a policy instrument. So the Israeli population doesn't matter to them. And what matters to the Israeli population doesn't matter to them. The relationship with The United States, has been incredibly detrimental to Israel despite what everyone thinks. It has prevented Israel from becoming a normal society.
Now part of that is driven by the, by diaspora Jews in The US who, like most, diaspora communities, are generally far more radical and ideological than their people back home. And this diaspora community in the West, particularly in The United States, makes a huge amount of money exploiting, Jewish emotional attachment to Israel, you know, getting them to fund pro Israeli lobbies and so on, which mostly just, makes a handful of American Jews very rich. But it's mostly driven by US policy interests and the utility of Israel, as a vehicle for an endless flow of cash to American defense companies and as an, sort of offshore research and development hub for the Pentagon.
The US does not want, and has never wanted for Israel to be at peace with their neighbors. They've never wanted Israel to integrate into the region. That's not Israel's function as far as America is concerned. It doesn't matter to them that this is the only way for Israel to ever actually become, a normal society. It doesn't matter if this is, in the interest of the Israeli population or not. They don't care. They're using you. They're using you, the Israelis. They're exploiting you. The Americans, the West are using you. And it's absolutely against the interest of your people. Obviously, the only way for Israel to ever progress as a society is to dislodge themselves from The United States, from the West, and to integrate properly into the region.
Until they do that, none of their domestic issues will ever be resolved. None of them even be addressed. Until they do that, they will never be allowed to do anything but, be a policy tool of The US and lose both their lives and their souls in the process. I mean, they're making you do things that are against your beliefs as Jews. They're making you do things that are against your own humanity. They're pushing you to do things that make the world see you as monsters. And more specifically, you're being seen as monsters by the people who are in that part of the world where you are. Properly, Israel should be a global South country. It should be a Middle Eastern country, and it should, share the values and the priorities of the global South and the Middle East.
But because it was, a western colonialist project from the beginning and because it continues to operate exclusively as a colonialist project, it is seen as, it is perceived as, and it sees itself as a western nation. And you're never gonna be able to be a normal country, going forward like that. The only real way forward, is a one state solution. Incorporate all of the occupied territories and all of the inhabitants of those territories into one country with equal citizenship rights. Yes. That will mean that, Israel will have a Palestinian majority and it will no longer be a so called Jewish state, but it can become a normal, healthy society.
I mean, if Zionism means upholding the right of Jews to live in Palestine, well, no one ever said they didn't have that right. No one ever had a problem with that, certainly not the Muslims. But if Zionism means, ethnic Jewish supremacy, Well, I mean, what civilized person would endorse something like that in the twenty first century? There were always Jews in Palestine during the Muslim empire. And there were Jews in Palestine when the Zionists came, and the Zionists fought against them. But if you want your country to ever be normal, then you're gonna have to go back in history and learn from the history of those, Palestinian Jews who knew how to get along with their neighbors and who lived peacefully with the Arabs, who lived peacefully with the Palestinians.
The Jews who rightly saw, the Zionist as colonizers and as people who disrupted their society. Because those same Zionist and that same ideology is disrupting your society today. The Israelis can't possibly like being the way their country is now. There's no way they like that. They're human beings. They hate Netanyahu. And most of them blame the government for what's going on right now, and rightly so. But look how opposed that is to the American narrative. You know, look at how at odds the American narrative is from the way Israelis themselves feel, the western narrative. You need to stop letting America talk for you. They're destroying you. The perspective of the average Israeli, is diametrically the opposite of what the Americans are saying. I mean, look at those kids at the rave when the Hamas attack happened.
And remember that, military service is compulsory in Israel. So that means that all of those kids at that rave were IDF soldiers at one point. And all those kids have military training, but those aren't soldiers. I mean, even the active soldiers of the IDF aren't soldiers. The IDF of 2023 is not the IDF of 1956 or 1967 or even of the of the nineteen eighties. These people don't wanna be warriors. They just wanna live their lives, But America won't let them. I mean, look at the Israelis on TikTok or Instagram. What do you think they would rather be doing with their lives? Do you think they have it in them to, that they're so committed to Zionism that they wanna dedicate their lives to harsh, stoic drills and training all day, self sacrifice, discipline, and so on in order to make Israel a warrior nation. Well, they'd rather be in Dubai.
You know it and I know it. If they had a choice between, the path that Netanyahu and The United States wants for them, which is the path of endless strife and conflict and bloodshed. If they have a choice between that or, following the path of a one state solution that would flood that country with Gulf investment, Gulf money, and would allow them to just basically lay on the beach all day smoking hashish, what do you think they would prefer? No. Israel has to detach itself from The US. They need to start looking, to the BRICS nations for diplomatic resolutions and solve these problems together with the global South. And they need to send this message, to the diaspora and try to deradicalize those people and stop the influx of crazy settler extremists to their country. That's a destabilizing force in your society. I mean, just like always, the Muslims, the Arabs, are giving Jews a way out of western exploitation and violence because that's all the West is doing if you think about it. If you think it through, you can't possibly be foolish enough not to see that. I mean, we've always heard about how smart Jewish people are. So surely, you can see that the West is just, throwing you into violence and suffering and chaos.
They're just using you. But the Arabs, the Muslims, genuinely want peace and stability. But with justice and fairness. You believe in justice and fairness, don't you? You want peace and stability, don't you? Well, the only way that's ever gonna be brought about, is when you disentangle yourselves from The United States, honestly. I think you should enact a law in Israel, in fact, against dual citizenship. Don't let anyone be a citizen of Israel while still holding a passport for another country. Then you can weed out, you know, who's really invested in your society and who isn't. I think at least 20% of Israelis. Last time I checked, I think around 20% of Israelis, hold dual citizenship, and about half of those only live in Israel part time. They are seasonal Zionists.
And these are most likely gonna be, you know, the settler types who are basically sort of a a Jewish Isis, a Jewish dash. You don't want people like that in your society. I mean, it will also be from from the the part time seasonal Zionist. You also have the business people who have divided interests. You need to weed those people out. They're destabilizing. And you certainly shouldn't be allowed to, serve in the government if you have dual citizenship. How can you how can how can you be sure, which country's interests they're serving? Particularly, if they're, American Israelis, if they hold dual citizenship of Israel and and The United States.
Which country are they serving? I mean, how many of these people in the government or elsewhere but especially in the government? How many of these people will be willing to sacrifice their US passport for Israel? Not many. I promise you that. Well, that shows divided loyalty, and that's at least one of the reasons why there's so much corruption in your government. Because most of the people, are serving American interests. Most of the politicians are serving American interests, European interests. While you and I know that, Netanyahu is about 95% more likely to retire in in, Florida than in Israel. So if you can get people who are actually committed to, Israel being a proper normal country, People who are genuinely interested in the welfare of the Israeli people, well, I think you would see peace a lot sooner, and that's obviously in the best interest of Israel.
So you need to get closer to the Arabs. You need to get closer to the Muslims and liberate yourselves from being nothing but an American tool in The Middle East because that's what you are, and that's what they're treating you as. I mean, haven't you ever noticed, that the most enthusiastic supporters of Zionism in the West and in The United States among non Jews are exactly the the, those same groups of people who historically have been the most antisemitic people. While the original Zionist got support from the most Jewish hating segments of Europe back in the day. Everyone knows that. That's not a secret and they haven't changed. The Westerners haven't changed. Those same anti Semitic groups haven't changed. They're just the way they've always been.
They supported Zionism, back then because they wanted Jews to be anywhere else but next to them. And there's they feel the same way today. And their so called support for Israel right now is just as anti Semitic as it has always been. They wanna see you in conflict. They wanna see you in misery. They wanna see you in insecurity and they want you to be dependent and subject. It's nothing but hate. But you fooled yourselves into thinking it's love. You fooled yourselves into thinking it's friendship when they're your worst enemy. They're the same people who persecuted you for centuries and they're persecuting you right now.
Just doing it more cleverly. And the same people who were historically the most welcoming to you and the most kind to you are the same people that they want you to be at war with. I'm telling you, you're getting played. You should be smarter than that. They don't want good for you. They never did. I mean, what good have you gotten, actually? Hundreds of thousands of your sons and daughters right now have been called up to go to the slaughter by America and their sponsored agents in your government. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent only to make you more insecure and line the pockets of your corrupt politicians while average Israelis are struggling with the cost of living, and no one cares.
Your politicians don't care, and who they work for doesn't care, which is The United States. They hate you, and they hate us. You and I both know it. We should more or less be on the same side, but they keep making you do things that make it impossible for us to side with you. And that's the whole trick, and you keep falling for it. We don't have a problem with Jews. We never did. Muslims don't have a problem with Jews and history attests to that fact. But the people who do have a problem with Jews, are the biggest backers of Zionism and we do have a problem with Zionism.
And you should too. Because it's a plot that's against you and not for you. If you think about it, they're tricking you in every which way. The US didn't defeat the Nazis and liberate the concentration camps. Russia did that. Some of the biggest backers of the Nazis were in America. And after the war, they brought over all the top Nazis in Operation Paperclip, and you know it. They brought them over after the war to help them in their science and, engineering and development and so on. Everyone knows that. And right now, they're backing an army, in Ukraine who literally fly the swastika, fighting against the country that ended the holocaust, and you're supporting them. You see how confused you are? Don't you see how they've never changed?
How the West has never changed? Don't you see, how they want you to be against anyone who ever gave you refuge? Anyone who was ever decent to you. And you still think this is support? You still think this is love? You think this is friendship? They're using you and they're ruining you because they never stop being anti Semitic. That's the truth. They never stop being anti Semitic. So my message to, Israelis would be stop being led by the nose by anti Semites and actually make peace with the Semites, with the Arabs, with the Muslims, and get yourselves free once and for all from The United States, from Europe, and from, Zionist anti Semitic manipulation because it's gonna be the death of your country. It's gonna be the death of your society. And like I said, it's gonna be the death of your souls.
Because in order for you to do what The United States wants you to do, you have to do things that are against your belief system. You have to do things that are against your morality. You have to do things that are against your own sense of humanity. And it's gonna destroy your reputation, and it is destroying your reputation all across the world and more importantly across the global South, which is where the future is. So you need to stop, being manipulated by the West. You need to stop being manipulated by The United States and stop being manipulated by the people who are taking money from The United States and lining their pockets with it. They're sacrificing your children. They're sacrificing your sons and daughters. They're sacrificing your quality of life, and they're sacrificing your future just to line their pockets. Everybody knows that, Netanyahu is doing nothing now but trying to save his political career no matter how many lives have to be lost, Palestinian lives or Israeli lives. He doesn't care and neither does America. So you need to wake up and start using that great brain,
[02:55:10] Unknown:
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[02:55:58] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Purpose of the Show
Discussion on Local Politics and Voting
Debate on Trump's Presidency and Policies
Importance of Local Elections
The Role of Education in Political Awareness
The Importance of Understanding Legal Definitions
Voluntary Servitude and Legal Rights
Historical Context of Tax Laws
The Role of the Secretary of State in Citizenship
Discussion on Banking and Credit Systems
The Importance of Self-Education
The Role of the Patriot Movement
Citizenship and National Identity
Discussion on Property Ownership
Hypothetical Scenarios and Citizenship
Global Politics and National Interests
Video Analysis: Message to Israeli People
