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In this episode, host Roger Sayles delves into a variety of topics, starting with a discussion on the significance of April Fool's Day and its connection to tax deadlines in the United States. The conversation shifts to the platforms broadcasting the show, highlighting the diverse range of networks and stations involved. Roger and his co-host Paul discuss the peculiar KFC commercials in the UK, which feature bizarre themes like "believe in chicken" and "all hail gravy," sparking a conversation about corporate marketing strategies.

The episode also touches on political issues, including the state of affairs in the UK and the US, with references to historical quotes and current events. Roger shares insights into the complexities of the US tax system, the role of Social Security numbers, and the implications of being a national versus a citizen. The discussion includes listener interactions, questions about legal processes, and the importance of understanding one's rights and status. The episode concludes with a lively exchange among listeners, reflecting diverse opinions and perspectives on the topics discussed.


In this episode, we dive into a lively discussion on a variety of topics, starting with the significance of April Fool's Day and its connection to tax season. The hosts explore the complexities of the U.S. tax system, highlighting the differences between state and federal taxes, and the implications of citizenship status on tax obligations. They also touch on the historical context of the Jim Crow laws and their political implications, emphasizing the importance of understanding legal definitions and the concept of voluntary servitude.

The conversation takes a turn towards the influence of media and corporate interests, with a humorous critique of recent KFC commercials in the UK. The hosts also discuss the role of influential figures like Elon Musk in uncovering governmental and financial irregularities, and the potential impact of political changes in states like Wisconsin. The episode wraps up with a spirited debate on the effectiveness of various legal strategies and the importance of being informed and proactive in asserting one's rights.

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That's right.   We would too. We try to. Six days a week, we put in a couple hours at that. And today,   no fooling around because it's,   April Fool's Day. Four one   twenty five. So how about that? We're not fooling around about your freedom. I can tell you that.   Here at the Radio Ranch, Roger says you're hosted. It's the Tuesday,   April fools. It's it's the false April fools' day. The real April fools' day is about two weeks away,   and that's when people stand in line at midnight at the post office to get their little   return stamped   with the proper date. Don't they, Paul?  

So, we're assisted by a number of platforms, and Paul's the keeper of said platforms. And he's gonna reel them off for us so we can give them their proper recognition   and   credit.  

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See? Thank you, Raj.  

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Yeah.  

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Morning, Raj. It's all I got. Paul. Yeah. April Fool. Don't you're good. You didn't have an April Fool's joke in there for us. That's good.   I I know it's not a April Fools' Day over in,   Dolly Old, and we're with them or they're with us today e either.   And the state of,   England and Europe is,   well, it's downright pathetic. It's what it is. And,   it keep coming to my mind this, quote from JFK and the guy he said, if I remember, I'm I think I'm attributing this correctly.   Those who make   peaceful revolutions impossible   make violent revolutions inevitable.  

Yeah.   Well, I think that's kinda what's going on. It's very accurate. I believe those were spoken   fifty years ago or so by,   president Kennedy, and,   it's damn true.   So, anyway, here we launch off. Yeah. What's your comment there, sir?  

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I do believe that,   I do believe that The UK has their own,   April Fool.   Even though they launched it a bit early,   did you hear about The UK KFC commercials?  

[00:04:57] Unknown:

I'm not sure if I did or not, Paul.  

[00:05:00] Unknown:

Kentucky fried chicken. The UK,   KFC commercials. Their Right.   Their their, their slogan   appears to be,   believe in chicken   and all hail gravy.   They have two commercial spots,   and one of them is ninety seconds long. The other one is two minutes.   And the first one, the,   believe in chicken   is   a bunch of people,   like, they're showing   street,   scenes where a bunch of people seem to be, like, kinda taken over like zombies, and they start doing, like, this chicken dance. And   and,   and there's there's, like, about sixty seconds of that. And then they start gathering   around this round pedestal   in this, like, central square,   and they're gathering around this golden   chicken in the middle. Like, they're like, they're actually Worshiping.  



[00:06:01] Unknown:

Praising it to worshiping it. Worshiping worshiping the worshiping the golden chicken?  

[00:06:07] Unknown:

Yes. Worshiping the golden chicken.   Mhmm. And,   and it's a real chicken. It's like a like a light brown brownish chicken, whatever. Yeah. And then the moniker that comes with a screen Like a red cap.  

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Kinda like a red cap. Go ahead.  

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Kind of. And and then the, the slogan in red bold red letters, I believe, if I remember correctly. It says believe in chicken.   And then that's the end of that one.   And   that one   is disgusting enough, but the other one is even worse.  

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There's two people that are going, let's what are you supposed to believe   in about chicken?  

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I have no idea.  

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Is that just I have no idea. Is that, like, when Obama was running, it was like hope?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Hope Change. You know? But what he meant actually was that we would be left without hope. And,  

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all that ton of change, and you ain't gonna like it.  

[00:07:10] Unknown:

Yes. Well, at the second one, the second one is even worse.   And, I have to give credit to, Sketch for for rooting out these commercials because he was the one that shared the link.   The second one   is called All Hail Gravy,   and there's these,   these people that are in the woods.   So there's, like, this connection to,   oh, I guess, Wiccan symbolism,   maybe.   And there's these people that are,   carrying and   and worshiping this huge golden egg.   It's huge.   The thing is, like,   10 feet tall, 15 feet tall.   And they're lifting it off in the air, and they're carrying it through the woods and all this stuff. And they come to,   like, the shores   of this   body of liquid.  

I didn't say body of water and I didn't say lake because it's not a body of body of water.   What it is is it's gravy.   A body of gravy? There's this there's this female   that is carrying   a male   out into   the gravy,   lifts him up,   tips him, dunks his head and whole body in the gravy,   and he comes out a chicken tender, a breaded chicken tender.  

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There there's gotta be some symbolism.   There's gotta be some real ugly symbolism behind all this. Go ahead. There's there's  

[00:08:52] Unknown:

it's it's basically   baptism by gravy, and you come out with chicken nugget.   And then and the the tagline for that is all  

[00:09:03] Unknown:

hail gravy. Gravy. Wow.   Well, they're getting a little tipsy over there. Do they have too many g and t's or what? I got no idea, but it's I mean, it's a stranger.  

[00:09:17] Unknown:

Now I would never I would never   I would   never interfere   with corporate profit profitability   or anything like that by even remotely suggesting   a global   boycott   of KFC   because they clearly have their head so far up their ass. I would never do that. You  

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ain't getting it. I promise you that,   because it's the most amazing thing. And I've mentioned it on the show before.   Down here,   wherever there's a KFC,   there's a constant line 10 to 12 people deep.   It's just absolutely amazing to me. Now they've got a competitor   down here called Campo de Pollo,   which is,   Camp Of The Chicken.   I don't know if they worship   the king as chicken over there, but they're a Ecuadorian   outfit that kinda goes along   competing with KFC.   And sometimes they do a pretty good job. Sometimes the lines will be equal. But most of the time, anytime you see a KFC here, you're gonna see a freaking line. Not here. Just here. I mean, all over the continent.   Anywhere I've been where there's a KFC,   it must be that MSG that's got those folks hooked on that stuff because, buddy, they love KFC.  

It's amazing to me.  

[00:10:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I I do believe that original recipe is loaded with it. I don't know for sure. I cannot make that claim. Yeah. But I think the original recipe is loaded with it, but I don't know if the extra crispy is.  

[00:10:50] Unknown:

You you know what, what for the audience, it may not know where the der derivation of all this is.   They developed a algae.   It's a synthetic algae,   and it was   developed to eat oil spills. Remember that?   Yeah.  

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Yeah. They were trying to use that in The Gulf.  

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Well, all over the place where they have an oil spill. Well,   this MSG   is that bacteria, that artificially   bacteria, that MSG is its poop.   It poops out MSG.   So that's what you're eating is manufactured   bacteria   algae poop.   I don't know. It doesn't sound very absizing to me, Paul.   But a lot of people love it. It's very addicting.   And it's on the basis of all this stuff. You know? I think they're they're trying to get to Trump to try and stop drinking those damn Cokes every day. I there's a couple of other I don't know if Elon or not is hooked on it, but there's a couple other people that are hooked on it. But, yeah, that's, and we who who can we thank that for?   Bank for that? I guess, more of the correct way. Do you know?  

No. Well, there are unknowns, Paul, and there are knowns, and then there are unknowns that are unknowns. And we don't know about the unknowns that are unknowns that are sometimes unknown.   That didn't ring a bell?   Rumsfeld.  

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Oh, no kidding.  

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Rumsfeld was the head of CIRL   before he got stuck into the government under Reagan, and he's the one that opened the door for all that crap.  

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Yeah. Right.  

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So anyway,   that's part of it, I guess, is the addiction stuff. But, man, they love it. Regardless,   whoever's got the KFC franchise,   man, they they're doing very well.  

[00:12:45] Unknown:

K? Yeah. I my law discovered   accent food   and flavor enhancer. Right. Right. And if you look at the ingredient list on accent   Yep. There is one ingredient,   monosodium glutamate.   Yeah. And that's all it is.   It was pure monosodium glutamate. And I'm telling you, my mom put that stuff in everything.  

[00:13:09] Unknown:

Everything. Yeah. And you liked it too.  

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Well So that's part of it.   Until we started developing a sensitivity to it. I mean, to this day,   MSG gives me a three day headache.  

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Yeah. People get really have reactions to it, makes them sleepy and all that kind of stuff.   Yeah. Excuse me.   So that's the way that is.   Well, try and stay away from it. Probably make you a little bit healthier. It does make stuff taste better, but it's very addicting,  

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they say. So anyway It doesn't make it taste better.   Doesn't make it taste better. It fools the brain because it activates   the central part of the tongue, which is normally dormant.   The the,   yeah, your flavor receptors   on the tip of your tongue, I believe that's sweet, and I believe the back of the tongue is salty.   And the middle of the tongue is is not,   Neutral? Stimulated most of the time. But MSG   specifically targets part of the tongue   that you normally don't hear from. So the brain says, oh, wow. This is amazing.   This is really new and different.  

Give me more.   I don't think so.  

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No. But best to best to probably stay away from that stuff.   I mentioned Elon Musk a second ago. I guess the most notable thing,   if if you're in Wisconsin today,   you   one of the rare times you'll hear me say this, but this you might wanna vote today. It's a state issue.   It's a Supreme Court justice.   I've I've never remember them voting on Supreme Court justices in a state too much. I don't remember it being a   incident in Georgia. I thought they were appointed. That's where I spent a lot of my adult life.   But, anyway, and they do in Wisconsin. Every state can have those differences. And,   there's a there's a female named Crawford that's running. That's the darling of the, idiots.  

And I don't know the her opponent, a guy, but I did see a short debate on them. She's,   like, let let a couple of child molesters   go way under the   suggested sentence time and stuff like that. Now here's the big deal that's going on,   what they're really doing. Now you're you're from Minnesota. Right? That's pretty close to Wisconsin, like, next door. I spent a lot of time in Wisconsin driving through.   Yeah. Visenas.   Neighbors. So,   anyway,   they will take if she gets on the Supreme Court of Wisconsin, they will gerrymander.   There's a good old name from way back.  

Gerrymander   the districts there,   with her liberal   vote and supervision, evidently,   and they will, turn they will take Milwaukee   and do what they've done with all these other states where they have a major metro area and then the rest of the state's all conservative,   is they gerrymander them through the major city and pull those votes out and override and actually overtake   the, red part of the state. So that's a real big deal because that could change two seats in congress,   and and that would give them a lot of upper hand. So if you are in it's a state election. If you are in Wisconsin, I really   would suggest you go try   and throw your weight to the wheel on that today. We don't need that happening when we've got at least some semblance of positiveness   rolling forward.  

And the house is held in a very   slender slender majority.   One or two, something like that.   So anyway, they're looking for any way in hell that next fall, they can, turn things around. Now I don't know   if Trump's executive order   probably hasn't had time to take effect yet where, you know, he's going paper ballots, no machines, and all that stuff.   So it we'll we'll see about that before   fall next year.   Anyway, it's what's going on in Wisconsin today. So Elon because the Republicans have I don't know if they've been, fooling around, but there's been a couple of special state elections, and they lost one in Pennsylvania   in a   traditionally conservative   district.  

And they're about to lose another one, it looks like, in Florida.   So all of a sudden, they wake up on the desperateness   and the   timing of this one in Wisconsin.   So they flew,   Elon up there with one of the, the wonder kin   wonder kindred.   Wanda kindred. You know?   Like big balls, Paul.   It wasn't big balls. It's just like him. You know?   And they went up there and flew up there to Wisconsin and did a, presentation, an hour long presentation on what they found in Social Security. Did you happen to see that?  

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Didn't he hear   is that where he mentioned, like, 400,000  

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stolen Social Security numbers and that there was I could have. I don't know that I it was an hour long   it was an hour long speech. I just heard excerpts of it. I'm not sure I heard that in the excerpt. He could've said that.   I don't know what they went over   was the entire scam that they've uncovered. And the other guy, I think he I can't remember what his name was. I wanna say Garcia. That might not have been it, but   very, very sharp younger man.   And, he was going over. He was the one that was responsible for Social Security,   and, he was crediting. He gave a long accreditation   to the people inside the agency that helped show him a bunch of this stuff.  

There are people that are, you know, inside that are loyal. And he said, I I went from Washington to   border,   offices all the way the border and in between   and all these offices and talked to all these people. And it was amazing how many   people were very, very, very helpful in showing us what was really going on that we might not have understood.   And so what they do is they bring these migrants in.   I'm gonna try and remember this. Okay?   They bring the migrants in,   and they get them with a   they bring them into some sort of a judge, and there's they can either assign them   a   a session with a judge. There's only 750   judges. There's 5,000,000.  

This is one little segment they're talking about. Wasn't the whole ball of wax.   So your case isn't gonna get here for six years minimum.   And then there was another thing you could outright   about asylum. There's two options Social   Security number in the mail.   And then you can go get a driver's license, go register to vote, and, everything else that the Social Security number opens the door to.   And,   and, then you can also,   all well, they could, the the end thing was they could vote, and they actually found some of the people in the group that had gone through the process   that did vote.  

And it's like the guy said those, those   files have already been forwarded to the justice department for prosecution,   which got a big rise from the audience.   And,   so   and that's the deal. And then they, of course, get Social Security benefits. And when they went in to check on the benefits for them, they have a little some kind of a   a little checkbox   thing,   and it says   maximum.   So every one of them get the maximum and everything.   They've already found a bunch of them in   Medicare, and they found a bunch of them that voted in the last election.   So,   the lid's coming off of that.  

Wow. Alright.   Yeah. I mean, it's unbelievable. And and what did he say?   20,000,000   people were being paid erroneously.   I think he said there are 20,000,000   above a 20   that were getting paid erroneously.   Well, they've stopped all that. They're about to stop all these payments to all these aliens,   which is gonna really force them because they're here on the gravy train. All of a sudden, the gravy train stops.   Well, now what do they gotta do? They gotta go out and commit crimes or leech off somebody.   Well, now they commit crimes. Now they're gonna get caught. Now they get thrown in the slam, and now, mister Homan can come and   extradite their butts back to wherever they were enticed to come from.  

The amount of money that they estimated spent on every one of these guys and gals,   they come from whatever country they're in,   like Africa.   They go over there and solicit these Africans.   It costs about $20,000   to get them inside The US.   And, of course, that's all being operated and and,   guided by   well,   the government probably put in the drug cartels in charge.   So drug cartels then get the   profits off of these people that get in here and can get a job with a Social Security number,   and, then they can go in and take Americans Place. Now I can tell you one of the places that this   is becoming hello.  

One of the places that this is becoming real prominent, and it was,   evidenced last week in   Austin, right outside Austin on one of the   freeways.   Paul, now you were a former,   driver. You used to drive 18 wheelers. Right?   Well, now they're not taking people like Paul here. He's having to come struggle here and get the big bucks over here. Well, what they're doing is, the accident was the other day was in Ethiopia.   And they're letting all these illegals in, and then they're sending them to these places   that dispatch trucks,   and they will pay them considerably less than they do the American truck drivers.  

So I think you've had about six of these accidents on the road with the illegal drivers in a 18 wheeler.   So these are the repercussions   of all this migration crap.   And Do you know what I think they should do?  

[00:23:53] Unknown:

Well Instead   of in instead of cutting off the money   and,   and then forcing them to go out and break the law so they can be arrested and then they can be housed and then they can be deported.   They've got FEMA camps all over all over the country.   They have built   so many facilities with the razor wire facing in   that are supposed to be like these family centers and all this stuff. You didn't see the air quotes, but trust me, they were there.   All they've gotta do is just open up those facilities   and just   blanket the news with,   illegal immigration is   considered   a threat to national security. It's considered an invasion an invading force,   and we will find you, and we will intern you for the rest of your life in one of these camps. Leave now. Do you expect the media to do that?  



[00:24:52] Unknown:

Waiheeb, is that you? Do you Yeah. I I can't believe Paul. I can't believe Paul said that. Paul, you think the media that's supporting this is gonna,   turn   turn on the very thing they've been   pushing?  

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They'll be doing it or they'll lose their license.  

[00:25:13] Unknown:

The alternate media will. It doesn't matter what the media says. It matters what Trump says,   and what those guys wanna do. And here's another perfect example, all these judges that are trying to stop these,   deportations.   Well, it seems like there's a civil rule of   a federal rule of civil procedure where those people that they're trying to stop from being exported   have to be bonded,   and they have to be bonded with the potential amount of the crime. And guess what, Paul? They haven't been doing that.   So judges,   federal judges, commie judges, will that I've done that. About this. What a call. It is not Okay. Well, hold on. I'm done. I got my call.  

Hold on, audience. We got too many things going on. Who wants to say something?   Come on. Somebody's sitting there with the mic open. You must have wanted to say something.  

[00:26:08] Unknown:

No. I think they got unmuted by accident.  

[00:26:11] Unknown:

Okay.   Alright. So there's a bunch of that stuff coming out. Trump's gonna win in the end,   and,   because they've got the power of congress, and they've got at least this advantage   until next fall, if in fact it still holds after that.   And they can go in because they've got the power of the purse, and they can go in and defund every one of these judges. Oh, they'll still get paid. They can sit at home and get a fat check, but they're not gonna have any power. They're not gonna have any marshals. They're not gonna have any staff. They're not gonna have any of that stuff.   So if that's the way they wanna play, let them play. I think Trump's coming out and saying the only thing only court we're gonna recognize is the Supreme Court because it's the only real constitutional   court there.  

The rest of the courts are appointed. Now the constitution does give congress the power to set up these judiciary units.   But,   the Supreme Court's the only one that's allowed,   mentioned specifically in the   old venerable   constitution.   So anybody got anything to add to all that oratory here? Just some things that are on the top of my mind this morning as we start the show. There wasn't a whole lot   necessarily   that I saw that happened yesterday. I thought this   I'm the more I see Elon Musk, the more impressed I am with that guy.   I did not know, however, Paul,   that he was only he had only,   stated he was gonna help the administration for a hundred and thirty days.  

So at the we're in about the seventy first day now   is when that when that, expires, is he gonna stick around? Trump said, I'll keep him as long as he can feels he's good here. He's got other big operations that are his to run and,   other responsibilities. So we'll just see. But I sure have gotten to like mister,   Musk.  

[00:28:09] Unknown:

Mhmm. You know? Well, I'm really, really thinking that the whole FEMA camp thing could work   because   they can use them as labor camps. And then maybe we can actually start making some money on these illegals instead of having to spend Right. Billions of dollars to round them up and then deport  

[00:28:29] Unknown:

them. We're gonna have a real we're gonna have a real, opposition there to the Rockefellers   who own all the hold on. The Rockefellers who all all own all the, prisons   and and they sell the goods and utilize that slave labor. You might have a little opposition   from that class. I'm gonna turn to Julie first. Yes, ma'am?  

[00:28:51] Unknown:

How are you this morning here? Are you bringing us an April Fools? Are you bringing us an April fools? No. I don't have anything April fools. I don't have any April fools with this demonic government running our country into the ground in a new world order rolling out. You know, Trump signed the the Noah Hyde laws in 02/2019,   and it's called   Education School Day in April of twenty nineteen. It's on the federal register. You can't make that stuff up. It's right there in plain sight.   So,   I don't know. I don't think that's Trump one point zero or two point zero might be three point zero, but that's   definitely a clone. And, I don't support any person   who wants to   stick   a,   you know, a   mesh in my brain,   a chip in my brain and hook me up to his Starlink   system. And he he's a you know, Doge is a a satanic word, for the Venetians, and and MAGA is the fifth level of state state Satanism.  



[00:29:53] Unknown:

Julia, I love you.  

[00:29:56] Unknown:

Okay. I love you too, man. I mean, people this one world order is rolling out at warp speed with all of the things he's signing and all these executive orders. It's it's nothing but bad, Roger. I hate to be the bare of bad news. Thanks for saying, I don't I'm sorry. I do. I don't consider no. I don't consider it all bad.   Oh, that's horrible.   So let me tell you something. Do you think taking 20,000,000 Let me give you guys a brief selfie. Told it. You think taking 20,000,000  

[00:30:23] Unknown:

people that are falsely receiving   Social Security payments every month, taking them off the rolls, do you think that's evil?  

[00:30:32] Unknown:

We're talking about something that's far more evil than that. He's just doing that to get us to, like, like him and trust him so he can take the bullet constrictor and squeeze it and completely suffocate us. That's just part of the plan, Roger.  

[00:30:46] Unknown:

Alright. Well, you got your opinion. I got mine.   Okay. Take two steps take two steps forward. Take two steps forward and five steps back. Wahib Wahib, you haven't been around here in a while. You asked permission to speak here when I'm having a conversation with somebody else.   Got it?   Go ahead, Julie.  

[00:31:07] Unknown:

So I just wanted to tell everybody that you're a w y e.   If you're interested,   red pill expo dot org. Red pill expo dot org on July,   twelfth and thirteenth. It's a free it's in Tulsa, Oklahoma if you wanna go, but it's free online.   And, it is going to be the author of,   the the creature of Jekyll Island. I can't remember his name, Griffin.   Yeah. And he's out doing tours. Right. Yeah. He's 98 he's 98 years old now, Roger. Okay. Well, good for him.  

[00:31:40] Unknown:

Yeah. He's out doing tours and everything and And you want me to tell you you want me to tell you a g Edward Griffin story, Julie?   Sure. I read his book. I love him. Okay. Alright. Well, did you know that he was hired by the John Birch Society so that people wouldn't go look at Eustace Mahon's book, Secrets of the Federal Reserve, where they point out all designism   involved? G. Edward Griffin don't do that. He doesn't mention it one damn time, Julie. He was hired as a counter agent, Julie.   Okay? Yeah. So you know some of the background here that you're talking about that you obviously   haven't been exposed to yet. When I was in Argentina,   I had a personal relationship with a junior pallet, Salbucci,   who ain't around too much anymore, but he was at that time.  

And he was, got some notoriety,   and he was hired by a big, Canadian financial   operation to come talk to their,   members down in South Florida in the middle of the winter,   back in those years.   And, the other guy that was,   asked to speak was Geever Griffin.   And so I,   I got Adrian. I was really excited. You know? I said, Adrian, when you get to Fort Lauderdale,   go to the post office, get a passport application,   take it and show the oath to g Edward Griffin   that there's two different types of statuses.   You know what g Edward Griffin said?  

[00:33:02] Unknown:

So what? What did he say?  

[00:33:05] Unknown:

So what?   Wow. There's Gee Edward Griffin. Go put a bunch of faith in him. Okay, Julie?  

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Well, he did he did do a good job describing how the banking industry works, so I have a lot of respect for him in that area. About he didn't talk about Jews or Zionism, did he?  

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In the book, he did not. No. No. He did not. Because the John Birch Society   is also a counterculture   organization.   Do you know about the John Birch Society very much, Julie?   I I do. I've I've read about them before. You know, mister Welch that started it used his family owned the Welch Candy Company.   Did you know that? The little little   peppermint  

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swirls you eat at Valentine's Day? Those are those are those are poison. I don't eat that.  

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Okay. Well, okay. Well, he sold the company, guess to who? The Rockefellers.   And they gave him the money that went and started the John Birch Society.   And to this day, they have an overdraft protection bank   account with the Chase Manhattan Bank, which is whatever it is now. So there's mister Welch. Okay. Well, hold it. I'll see you guys. I got plenty of no. No. I got plenty of ammunition here for you. Okay?   So their guy was named their main guy, the first guy that they really hummed onto was a guy named Colonel Jack Moore. Do you know how you ever heard his name before, Julie? Colonel Jack Moore, m o h r.  

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No. I have not.  

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Okay. Well, he was the first guy that had been released by the North Korean communist.   He'd been captured. And here's the John Birch Society. They're anti communism. Right?   Okay. So he gets released,   and they would do all kinds of things. He was quite celebrated.   And,   he,   they do things like 13 times.   They told him he was about to get executed.   So they give him his last rights and all that last meal, and they take him out in the yard and 13 rifles would fall   ready, aim, fire on empty cylinders. They did that to him 13 times.   Okay?  

So then they finally released him.   And when he got   back to The US because John Birch was anti communist, he was the releassee from the communist,   he was automatically   their number one speaker.   Number one speaker in John Birch. He was all over the country.   And he finally figured out the Zionism   deal. And he was in his hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas   at the John Birch Society, and he started talking about Zionism.   And the next day, they kicked him out of John Birch, Julie, and totally def defunded him and took him off the tour.   Now let's go back and reconsider some of these things. Okay?  



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Okay. Can I say can I say something to Julia real quick? Julia, check out what I left for you in the chat.  

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Okay. I I I love you, Roger. We just have a big disagreement   on Trump. That's it, but I still love you.  

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Well, we've got different views on it. And and you're obviously I I see nothing good in that guy at all. So   You you would you take the glass full I told you. I'm saying you are too old. Alright. Well, great. Well, smoochy smoochy.   Okay?  

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I love you too.   Alright?  

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Yeah. Well, let me take the glass hold on. You take the glass half full approach,   and I take the glass half empty approach. That's the difference. Well, you know what? I don't take I don't take the glass anything,   empty or full. I take the truth. That's it. It don't well, it doesn't seem like anything that good happens registers over in your good column. That's just my observation.  

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Well, when it comes to the government, I I wanna end end not the Federal Reserve, end end the Fed, end the federal government. That's what needs to be done.   Well, that ain't gonna happen, so go wish. I know. That's not gonna happen. So, you know, that's my solution, though.  

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Wish upon a star.   Well, if you Get ready for your  

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In that case, it's not gonna happen, Julie, please. The case is not gonna happen. Get ready for your We gotta take Everybody has a digital ID   and a digital currency because the company ID.me   is located right around the corner, and they're rolling out your digital ID at warp speed. You're not gonna be able to get on the Internet without a digital ID.  

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And why isn't he why isn't Trump putting a stop to all of that stuff?  

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Well, we because he's controlled. He's a Zionist. He's a puppet. Oh, he They play both sides to the middle. I got no argument with Julie here. That is the malignant  

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side of Trump   is his association with these damn Zionists. And evidently,   they're happening and doing things without his knowledge and permission, Julie, because some reporter asked him in the press conference yesterday   about the where they kidnapped the gal from Tufts off the street. He said, I don't know anything about it. I haven't heard about it. I'll look into it. So we'll find out about that. So there are these independent Zionists operating. Unfortunately,   that is one of the keys   to getting in the Trump administration. You gotta be a damn Zionist. Now here's the question, Julie. Well, here's the question.   Is that a love of Zionism,   or is that people that have been fooled by dispensationalism   and Scofield Bible crap?  



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Well, this is risk and risk. He did this the first time in administration. He had all Zionists then, and he just risk and risk. He's got all Zionists now against   him.  

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Well, he's gotta lie. Well, you gotta be a Zionist. Well close to him is what I hear. K? And that's true. You can't say something, Robert. You to goddamn it. Why he can you wait?   Shit.   You can't even let people finish. He hadn't been around here for months.   It's one part of him that I don't like worth a damn either, and people don't. And they're criticizing him. And stuff is coming up like on Infowars   where Owen Shroyer had Phil Kearney   from the USS Liberty on in an interview for thirty minutes. And that's a channel that that the people in the Trump administration watch. And Harrison's all against them   and and and talking about the crap they're pulling too. Okay?  

Now, Waheed.  

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I love you, Roger.  

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Waheed,   what do you got to interrupt with now? I'm giving you an open Yeah. I wanted to check I wanted to tell Julia,  

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to check out what I left for her in the chat.  

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It's   Julie.  

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Yes. Julie.   Julie.   I left you something in the chat.  

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Thank you.  

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Okay. Hello?   Yes. Hello.  

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Oh, great. Great. Great.   My name is William Crowley. I'm a friend of Priti Shukla,   and I just came on the call yesterday.   Yeah. How you doing? Oh, boy. I just came on the call yesterday. I'm a I'm a long time painter. I've been in the movie since early two thousand. But, she was telling me about the show, but I just was listening in. And, that was interesting about G. Edward Griffin. I have both G. Edward Griffin's book. I read The Creatures from Jericho Island, and I've read,   Eustace Mullins.   He was inspired by Ezra Pound, by the way. Yeah. To write that book on the Federal Reserve. But,   Creeks from Jekyll Island has the Rothschild formula. They they do address the Zionist question to a certain degree with the Rothschild formula in chapter eight or nine.  



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Okay. Well, all I know is that g Edward Griffin was hired and contracted by the John Birch Society to write that book and to counter the influences of Eustace Mullins, and that's right out of Eustace Mullins' own mouth. Okay, William?   Oh, okay. No. I I understood. I was just Yeah. No. I got to see him about five times in person,   had autograph books of his, and I've been around this shooting match, this rodeo long enough to have had those kind of experiences years ago. Now, William, you're new. Where are you? Where are you in the country? I'm in and you've been I'm in Florida down here with pretty that pretty shupelo I've done here in Florida. And I have my friend, Tony LeGrand, on too, and he's from Florida.   Okay. You're in Hillsdale County there in Tampa?  



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Hillsborough.  

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Hillsborough. Okay. Pretty close. Yes. Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm from Panama City, so I'm I'm Florida. Oh, okay. North North Florida.   Yeah. Well, it's nice to have you, William. I'm glad Pretty is spreading the word here.   Did have you gotten into our information here? Are you or you've got questions or comments  

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or anything? Yeah. I just a little bit about me. I, I was,   I was starting out with Ted Turner back,   before he went down,   back in  

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the Dare to be great? Dare to be great?  

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Dare to be great. Yeah. Well, is that Tim Turner?   But, we I ran his group. I I I we've gone away from his group, and I started, you know, dealing with the, you know, the UCC and security party and everything. I was facing fifty years in prison,   back in 02/2004.   And,   I fired my attorney, and I represented myself. And I got off, of course, because we're writing bills and exchanges.   And, they came on to me saying that I was uttering for forged instruments. I had five counts,   with ten years each of uttering. I'm sorry. Uttering for what are the orange instruments or or something like that?  

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Issuing an utter is something that,   mama cows have.  

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Oh, okay.   Okay.   But, so but when she told me that I'd call to me and her, man, you know, I've been showing her a lot of stuff over the years. But I kinda backed off because a lot of the,   Jewish question and design this issue. And I said, there are a bunch of, damn cowards if you're not dealing with the Zionist Jewish question.   Amen. And then this morning, when I heard y'all talking, I said, not not just the kind of call I like to be on because you're not afraid you don't count around that Jewish issue. No. They're afraid of us because we got them by the shorthairs, William. I got their mojo.  

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I got their mojo, and you can have it too if you want it. And then you can get up in their face and call them anything you wanna call them, and they won't do a thing or lift a finger because you got your mojo.   You got their mojo, and they ain't gonna risk bringing that into any kind of a forum   where a spotlight can be shown on this information   because it totally takes all their power away, a,   and it exposes them for who and what they are at the same time. And the third thing it does is it gives you your freedom from them. So if those things appeal to you, you need to hang around.  

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Yeah. But are you are are are you all familiar with American Free Press or the Barnes Review?  

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Sure.   Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna subscribe for them for fifteen years. I thought that was a pretty good paper. I didn't know if anybody was to borrow. Well, they're all excellent. And then As Louis Louis Carto and his bunch up there, and and, they used to put out a little tabloid called the Spotlight, and you could be a distributor and all that stuff. And then they morphed off Barnes Review, which is still going. Spotlight's not there anymore.  

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But Barnes Review Spotlight Spotlight became American Free Press.  

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Okay. And it's a excellent, excellent,   very slick cover   monthly magazines Yes. On different historical   Yes. Revisions. Excellent. Excellent publication.  

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Highly endorsed. I believe I've, yeah, I that's why I'd want to endorse it here. And I'd like I figured y'all would be familiar with it. So I get on I get on James Edward showing some kind of political cesspool too on Saturday evenings.  

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Okay. I don't know who he is, but I'm gonna hold the series   here.   His former wife what?  

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Oh, no. No. I was just saying he's he's a he's a he's kinda kinda called a white nationalist thing. You know, you know, it's it's,  

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showing it. Yeah. We we like him. We'll make you one too. We'll make you one too.  

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That's alright. Okay. That's alright. But, you know, so, we're going outside. Another one. I I know I've been I've been yelled before.  

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Well, I'll know. I wanna have a conversation with you, but I'm gonna put you on the back burner for just a second because Tom d is trying to say something. He brings a lot of gravitas   to the table here. Tom, what you got?  

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Oh, I was just happy to hear, from William because Priti is a friend of mine who I referred, and now she's referring people. So Yeah. That's he's my first second level ref referral here.  

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Oh, okay.  

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So so say hi to Pretty for me.  

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I'm not sure. What's your name again, sir?  

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Tom d.  

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Tom d? Okay. I'll I'll I'll tell her. Yeah. Yeah. And  

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the,   you know, I work with her with the robocalls.  

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So Okay. Oh, I need to talk with you then. I need to tell you. I'm I'm the one that does the credit repair nationwide.   Oh, okay. Alright. Cool. She probably told you about the way around.  

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Yeah. Okay. I think so. Yeah. I think she mentioned you.   Okay. Roger, I sent you a I sent you another   show about the   Musk in Wisconsin, but the other thing they've that he seems to have latched on to is that the our taxpayer money going to these NGOs, which go to another NGO, then it goes out of the country and goes to a whole bunch of people and then comes back in the Maxine Waters pockets and Schiff,   Pelosi, all that. So,   I hope he completes that,   as he calls, connecting the dots. I hope he connects all those because that's gonna be great.  

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I think they're gonna have all that connected or else he won't leave,   after that hundred and thirty days,   My my prediction. Yep. He's very dedicated to this. And you know why? It is that absolutely depends that The US Of America is there for him to fulfill all of his goals because he can't do it out of any other country.   K? Yep. So he's tied. He's married at the hip. He's married at the hip here. Now, William, I wanna go back to you.   You've been around for a while. You're throwing things out like dare to be great and whatnot. I remember that.   And,   but are you has Purdy been able to explain to you or have you listened to some of our interviews   where you can grasp what we do here?  



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Well, like I said, I'm I'm been involved in the Patriot Movement since February.  

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That doesn't mean that doesn't mean shit. Oh, okay. You you there's so much bad there's so much bad information out there. You could have been totally involved for twenty five years and still be way off.   That's what we're that's what we're trying to correct here. That's what I'm trying to correct here. Oh, okay. Okay?  

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Well well, I know here my my position is, you could do all the paperwork in the world is is is is cool. But to me, I believe that if if the people Trump is Trump and all Elon Musk and all of them are gonna be toothless without us, the people, getting up our finances and doing something in the first place. That's why we want to do it. Paperwork, they're gonna do it.  

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Well, no. This does do it. I know people say that. But I'm not gonna be having the well, you don't believe well, you want would you like to have full access to it?  

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The second amendment?  

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Yes. You don't have full access to it. You gotta go buy a weapon from a licensed dealer and all that crap. Would you like to have full access to it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Well, then listen to what we got here. This is not some off the off the block.   Hey. Look. All my documents say all capital letters, so that means that's gotta be the jurisdiction.   Well, we don't do that. Okay? Mhmm. What you're gonna hear out of us   is the result of over a hundred years   of three men's lives   of legal and historical research. Fortunately for us, one of those guys   was a guy that spent his whole life studying the law, but he didn't do it at law schools. He did it by reading the old books, and the things that they now don't teach in law schools is the reason all of our lawyers and patriots don't know things like, hey, William. What's the legal concept behind the word person?  



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William?   Oh oh, I'm not sorry. I asked a question. Oh, no.   Yeah. I was gonna Yeah.  

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Okay. Well, neither guess what? You ain't alone. Neither does anybody else. Neither does anybody else, including sitting judges.   So you're not alone.  

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Okay? But thank you for Before you before you go any further, though, before you go any further, now I got Tony LeGrand on, and he was asking asking pretty a lot of questions yesterday, and and I told him he probably should ask you all those questions on the show today.  

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Please.   We love well, that's why we're here is to field questions Yeah. From people like you and your  

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that's why I'm here. Tony, go ahead, Tony. Alright, buddy. Tony, go ahead. Tony LeGrant?  

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Oh, Tony LeGrant, you're in Tampa area too?  

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You gotta hit star six to unmute, Tony.  

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Yeah. Hit 6, buddy. Let's have a little social intercourse here.  

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Hello. Hi, guys.  

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Hey, Tony.  

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Hey. How you doing? Yeah. I'm sorry. I I was in a busy environment, so I was I was just leaving it out. Hey. Listen. We're it's just us girls here. It's no big deal.  

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Nice to meet you. Okay? First of all Yes, sir. Nice to meet you guys. I'm glad to have you on board. Would you like to be free?  

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Oh, yeah. Definitely.  

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Okay. Well, we can help you.  

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K? I don't have any problem with that statement.  

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It's unbelievably   simple. When you see how simple this is, you'll freak out. Mhmm. Because it seems so complex. Well, they've made it complex   so that we couldn't figure it out. But at the when it all boils down, it's real simple.   You,   you,   you you remember,   of course, I'm sure the Jim Crow laws, you've heard about them?  

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Yeah. I have.  

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Well, what really happened there were the former black slaves   in the South, which he wasn't exclusively   written for, but they were using them as an excuse. And it certainly was the predominant numbers involved.   But it was the the people in DC and the territories   before the Civil War,   they were stateless.   They didn't have any kind of   stateless.   Oh. There was no federal government to oversee them and give them rights and all the rest of the stuff. There was only the old original state citizens   for the first ninety years of the country. And so after the civil war and the fourteenth amendment got passed,   now we came up with these Jim Crow laws.  

But you see, the Jim Crow laws were not a black and white issue.   They were certainly personified as that. They've tried to everybody ever read or you taught about civil war or anything else, they're gonna say that was it. But the Jim Crow laws were really a political statement   because Whitey and Jim Crow   were the state citizens   who still had god given rights, owed god their duties with total constitutional   protections.   The new federal citizen,   fourteenth amendment, mainly black former slaves,   did not have that.   They got civil rights under the fourteenth amendment.  

So they get their small r rights from the government and owe the federal government their duty. That's where they got their personhood.   So that's what Jim Crow was. Really, it was a political difference,   not a color difference.   Okay?   And that whole thing,   underneath the fourteenth amendment federal citizenship,   was   the feudal system.   And the way they attach that   just remember, these people don't think like we do.   K?   And this is how they think.   We wanna enslave all the people. So what we'll do is we'll take the black man and put him in a halfway position   where he thinks he's free, but underneath it, that position is the feudal system.  

And then eventually, we're gonna trick everybody over into that, and that's what they did in March the ninth of nineteen thirty three with the bankruptcy.   And they put the whole population   in   as sureties   for a bankruptcy. This was in the bond market. K?   They did a bond bankruptcy.   And then for the surety of the debt, who owes this debt,   Though, well, we got this fourteenth amendment citizen there.   Underneath it is the feudal system where we have a property right in them.   And so we'll just take them all and put them in as sureties to the debt.   So that's what happened in 1933.  

And under the feudal system   thank you. Under the feudal system,   when you volunteered   because it has to be voluntary servitude.   There's two places in the constitution where voluntary   servitude   is totally 100%   lawful   and legal.   And that's what they're using here. So in the feudal system that you didn't know you were in,   people in voluntary   servitude,   the board of the manor,   the US federal government had a property right in you.   And so when you and mama   felt like being amorous and you had one night and had a child, nine months later,   the child born to two serfs   is born into the same condition.  

Right?   Like you had a bull and a cow in the pasture and they have a calf, whose calf is it? It's yours. It's my calf.   Yeah. Exactly. Same principle.   So now it goes down generationally to generation since 1933,   and they get you involved in this.   You didn't do anything to do this, but you agreed to it.   So all through your life, have you ever had these two questions asked, William?   It's not the William. It's Tony. I'm sorry.   Hey hey, Tony. Are you a citizen of The United States?  

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Yes. I've always had that question. Are you a resident?   Yes.   But now I know I'm not.  

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Well, then then you signed something, didn't you?   Yeah. W two or w Whatever. Wherever they ask you, you always sign something. What they've got now   is your agreement   to their fraudulent contract.  

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Mhmm.  

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What they put in at birth, your this happens to you at birth.   When your feet come out of mama's birth canal,   you're born into this condition. What's really happening   is Esau Edom has tricked you into giving his birthright back.  

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That's the big picture. I I mean, I don't I don't I don't really dispute none of that that you're saying. I think that's, actually factual.  

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But I have a Absolutely   factual.  

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Okay. Good. Yeah.  

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I have a question for you. So Okay. Now I'm sure you're in North Florida, and I'm sure you heard of, Ron DeSantis. I'm in I'm in I'm in Ecuador. Go ahead.   Okay. Sorry.   I thought you were the gentleman that was in.  

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Well, I I'm from Pasadena, but I I left sixteen years ago. K?  

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Okay.   My my apologies. So, That's alright.   Ron DeSantis here. He's the governor of Florida.   They're coming out with this new, bill,   for getting rid of property taxes.   Yeah. So then my question was,   because before we knew that in order to own the land, you had to get a a a land patent and you had to do other things. Because once you pay off the mortgage,   you still have to pay taxes on property that you own.  

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So he's coming up with this thing No. There's way. There there's a little fallacy there. You don't own it, but go ahead.  

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Yeah. Well, you thought you did, but you really don't. So now he's coming up with this property tax bill, and they're trying to eliminate property taxes.   So then my question was to you and anybody,   that that can answer this.   If   they eliminate property taxes,   do I then need to still apply for or try to get a land patent? Because if that eliminates the taxes,   is that, what did they say when you, you give something up,   like, you you you quit on it. You you give something up.   Like like in the game, you forfeit.   You forfeit   the,   you you forfeit the land when you,  

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so is that what they're saying When you Well, I don't let me ask you. We I I can't,   analyze legislation   before it's written,   so I don't know.   Okay? Because I don't know how they're framing it and how they're terming it. I what you don't wanna be if it it what locks you into the state of Florida   is being a resident.   K? Mhmm. That's the question right there because that's what they write all these laws for, residents.   And so you think it means you live there, don't you?  

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Well, yeah. That's what the normal person Well well well, it doesn't.  

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K?   They they're taking that word from ambassadorial   law   or countries trade ambassadors   and sign a treaty.   And the new ambassador is in The US, for example, in residence.   So here's my question to you.   If the Ecuadorian   ambassador got caught at Dulles Airport with a kilo of cocaine in his diplomatic   pouch,   what would they do to him? Now you're gonna get a second to think about that, Tony,   because with this whistling here, we need to tell our folks in England and our good folks up in Chicago,   I do. So just hold on. Paul's do that, and I'll come back and address you on that question. Okay. What do they do with that ambassador?  

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Paul? Okay. Let's do that. +1 0690   Thank you for joining us for this first hour. Please follow us in at the second hour by going   to eurofolkradio.com,   Global Voice Radio Network, that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net,   or go to the matrixdocs.com   and click on the free conference call link and join us live on the shelf. Thanks.  

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Thanks, Paul. Okay. Tony,   what did they do with the mister ambassador from Ecuador when he got busted with a kilo of cocaine at Dulles?  

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Well, I would think that they would try to colonialize them. And by saying colonialize them, I mean, they would try to establish   jurisdiction over  

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them. But if you have something That's what I'm so that's what I'm, well, that's what I'm trying to explain to you. They don't have That's what I'm going at. Well, they don't have jurisdiction  

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over him. Okay? And here's the try.  

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No. They won't. No. This is very established law for centuries. It's where the word came from. Okay? What they would do is put him on a plane back to Ecuador   because he is a in residence,   which means that the laws of Ecuador apply to him even if he's in The United States.   So when they ask you, are you a resident?   They're asking you, are you under the federal laws of the fourteenth amendment and Washington DC? And you, not knowing what they're asking you, answer yes.   So, again, you volunteered   or at least you've given them permission to govern you in this serve position.   So that's what's going on. I'm just gonna tell both you and William. You may have been around for twenty five years. You more than likely don't know the definitions that they're imputing to these key terms.  

K?   K. And if you don't understand the definition they're imputing, then you don't understand what's happening. And that's what I try and do is straighten all of that out for you.  

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Mhmm. Okay? Yeah. I asked Preeti a few questions yesterday,   concerning the,   national being a, US national.   And can you ask me what is the difference? There's an  

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there's another potential bone of contention.   He around here even.   Just use the word national. Don't use the word US.   Because we don't know exactly how they're using that   still.   Okay. So just use the word national, and you got no problem.  

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Okay. Orange.  

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Alright. Hold on. Paul's got something here for you, Tony. Paul?  

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Okay. I just wanted to circle back for a minute on what Ron DeSantis is doing. Now I don't know if this is what he's doing. This is what he's doing. But if a politician is speaking,   you know he's lying because his lips are moving.   Now he could issue   an actual   executive order. He could put your name on it. He could say,   John j Do,   this is by formal decree and operation of the supreme law of the state of Florida   that   the land of such and such at such and such address   is hereby granted   to,   in a laudial right in perpetuity   for all your successors and assigns   to be held by you   without   obligation or hindrance, limitation,   or   any other encumbrance   throughout   the remainder   of your   your life, your descendants' lives   in perpetuity   forever and ever   Heirs. Except by operation of law.  



[01:02:46] Unknown:

Heirs and assigns.   Tony, your question,   as important as it is,   is not   one word. Thinks okay.  

[01:02:56] Unknown:

That was the point I was trying to make. All of that fluff, the the paragraphs,   the sentences that I said before that   are all immediately and irrevocably   negated by the phrase except by operation of law.   So you read the entire bill.  

[01:03:15] Unknown:

Well, it's not really our ballywook around here, Tony, necessarily a loyal title. We talk about it. There's a few people that are interested in it. It's not the whole group. So it's not something we accent and really concentrate on, but we do know something a little bit about it. Not very many people have ever been successful doing it, but I have met a couple. And, we've got some folks here still striving to do that.   So I can't really answer your question. And when I can't answer a question, I'll tell you. I can't answer it, a, because I don't know what they've written in the legislation.   And you can't know what to do until you see what they've written and what comes out.  



[01:03:55] Unknown:

But, you  

[01:03:58] Unknown:

yes, Paul?  

[01:03:59] Unknown:

I was using that more as an example of how little you can trust these guys that they will put a few words in there as a gotcha.   It doesn't matter if it's chapter and verse, if it's pages and pages or books.   If they have a little catchphrase   in there,   everything else is negated.  

[01:04:19] Unknown:

Don't trust They're very they're very tricky. They're very, very tricky as evidenced by that illustration of ResMed.   Okay? What we can do for you and is oh, okay. Go ahead.  

[01:04:32] Unknown:

I was just gonna say excuse me. I was just gonna say that,   my mindset is of the I I understand. Well, I don't maybe I don't understand, overstand, or understand   enough of what I need to know about what you guys   talk about.   But what I do know is that given the history   of the corporate,   you know, state in which we live in,   there is no such thing as keeping a treaty with them or anything. So I'm of the mindset that just how they came into America and they took over and they colonialized America   over the Indians and the so called black people, the native, people that were already here.   I feel that that's what we have to do. If we feel so wronged by it, then we put them on notice and say, here's my paperwork to let you know this is what it is.  

And if you don't follow it, then   this is what I'm going to do. And you may get shot because it says that in the declaration of independence that Okay. You stop a tyrannical government with force. You can't just waive paperwork, and I I don't know of any nation that have ever has.  

[01:05:36] Unknown:

Alright. Well, let me assure you that to my knowledge, no one here in fourteen years has gotten shot. Okay? I can also tell you that in fourteen years,   to my knowledge,   we've never had one incident of blowback on any student   from the federal government,   period, from any agency,   from any source derived.   K? We have some problems occasionally   with local,   what I call, what fuel systems,   local fiefdoms   of where you got judge Roy Bean as the hanging judge   and Boss Hogg as the sheriff, and they don't like black man Tony coming up and telling them law that they hadn't been exposed to before.   So that's where we have problems. Okay?  

Occasionally. Now Now remember   Now well, hold on. Tony, you're the new student here. I'm the teacher. Let me and I've got I wanna answer your questions for you. I wanna assure any doubt Go ahead. That you have and and and just tell you that we don't have problems generally except for this traffic area. Alright?   I think that probably somewhere around 2,000,000 or more   of my students or people that they've turned on to this have filed this paperwork,   and we've never had one piece of blowback reported to me from the feds.   So let's get that straight. Okay? And they do recognize it, and you don't understand why.  

And if you'd like for me to, I'm about to tell you.   Because everything in this world has to be voluntary.   If it's not voluntary,   it's tyranny,   and there are no other options.   That's why they've gone to all this trouble   over all these years   with all this deception and trickery   to turn everything on a 880 degree scale   so they can ask you those two questions   that you don't understand what they're asking you and get your agreement to their fraud.   So all you gotta do   is untie that and unwind it. You this is how this is how easy   it is to get out of the federal system, and this is from the state department's   own website   in a policy statement.  

I, Tony I have I got it. I, Tony from Tampa,   do solemnly swear my intent to be a national   but not a citizen of The United States.   And you go get that one sentence notarized,   better. You could send it in like that as a declaration.   Better to go get it notarized   and drop it to the secretary of state and then wait a couple of days and, apply for a passport. You'll get it.   And now it's been accepted because they know they can't say no   or they're open tyrant. And that's what we don't know,   generally.   They've taken those two sentences   and our permission not only, yes, I'm involuntary   servitude under the fourteenth amendment. That's basically the first one. And the second one is, do you give us the right to govern you in this condition? And you say yes.  

Well, that's all voluntary. Take it away.   They gotta recognize   there is no other choice   or they're open tyrants.   I  

[01:08:56] Unknown:

I just have,   I just have this to say, though. I forgot the guy's first name, but out there in Arizona, name's Bundy.   I've had the ranch.   And Oh, yeah. Aaron Bundy. He's on Nevada. I think it was Yeah. I think it was in Nevada. Alright. Go ahead. Your name. Yeah. Yeah. Now this guy, he I'm sure it was on on public record. I'm sure that they understood that he owned that land. That land had been in his family for generations. No. No. Hold on. The bureau Tony, hold it. If he hadn't gone through this process,  

[01:09:30] Unknown:

he can't own that land because someone's got a property right on you. You can't own anything.   You can control it.   You can discharge the debt for it with other debt, but you don't own it.   So please But what would thou come up with? This is this, mate. This is this patriot mindset   that I'm a try my best to get out of you.   Okay?  

[01:09:54] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:09:56] Unknown:

So go ahead now with your hypothetical.  

[01:09:59] Unknown:

No. I was just saying whatever happened, whatever became of that because the Bureau of Land Management,   they came and they tried to take his land.   Yeah. I don't know. He he kept his land. He he he kept his land. Well, I But what I'm what I'm saying is it it took him to yeah. Yeah. It took it took him to stand up. He had them on notice, but it it it took him to stand up. Yeah. You can't confirm. You can't encroach.  

[01:10:22] Unknown:

That's right. And and according to judge Learned Hand, a great appellate judge in our system,   he said that to defend one's rights, one must be a belligerent claimant. Mister Bundy was a belligerent claimant. You're gonna make probably need to be one too. And you can't be a belligerent claimant   unless you really understand the information.   If your condition and situation is challenged,   you gotta know this stuff to be able to defend it. Don't you?  

[01:10:49] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:10:50] Unknown:

Well, that's foolish.  

[01:10:51] Unknown:

Okay? Yeah. You gotta stand on your square.  

[01:10:54] Unknown:

Well, that's the a whole bunch of these things wouldn't happen   if people knew what we're teaching here and followed through. I don't believe that any of those people with January 6 that spent so long in jail,   I don't believe if they were nationals, they could have ever put them in jail. But none of them were, so we don't know.   K? Now listen, Tony and Will, let me tell you straight out. I don't care whether you do this or not. Okay? This is your choice. It's your freedom. If you want your freedom and if you don't believe what I'm teaching is right, go off and follow some other people. I don't care. Okay?   I am gonna try and answer all your questions the best I can. I'd love to have you guys over here with us because our strength is not only in what we do, but we're further strengthened by numbers.  

And they're scared to death of this, folks. Neither one of you ever heard my name before, have you?   No. I haven't. Okay. Well, I've been here for four years since he lives on the air teaching people this. Why do you think you hadn't heard my name?   They're scared as hell. I don't know. I guess you get I was gonna say I I guess you do a good job of keeping your head head down. Well, no, man. I've got the truth, and they can't deny it. That's why with these 2,000,000 people that have submitted these affidavits,   we've never had anybody from the state department come back. No. You can't do that. Oh, they'll bluff you. They'll try and see how much you know and send you these letters that'll scare you at first, but it's all just bluff. They've got no power when somebody's done this.  

Okay? Period.   That's why you've never heard my name. They don't want people say, well, who is that son of a gun? And go, well, we'll see what he's about. And they go read this information. They go, holy smokes.   That's exactly why they don't say my name.  

[01:12:42] Unknown:

So it's your position   that   most of us have been doing things the wrong way with filling out paperwork and Well, I I  

[01:12:52] Unknown:

whatever as far as paperwork.   You know, they take passport fraud real serious. Yeah. I never  

[01:13:02] Unknown:

no. I never tried to do a passport, but I did, go the birth certificate route.  

[01:13:08] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that doesn't do But I would just just ask me. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm I'm gonna answer your question. I would do that. Certificate.   The birth certificate   doesn't cause the condition. How what gives that bureaucrat over there the power   to write a man made law? He's unelected.   How can he write a man made law and enforce it on me? That's the question right there.   Okay? The birth certificate does not cause that.   The birth certificate   represents it.   It happens at birth.   All persons   born or naturalized.   That's the fourteenth amendment, born.  

This is what they rest the whole abortion thing on, Tony,   is you're not a person with protections by the law until you're born and your mama's womb.   As long as you're in mama's womb, you're not a person,   so therefore, you're fair game.   That's what's going on. The whole abortion thing's based on that.  

[01:14:08] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:14:10] Unknown:

Gotcha.   So I I would I would just I guess my my bottom line question was, so   when when I was saying earlier that well, a few seconds ago that it's your position, so you think that it's just a matter of the right knowledge as far as filling out Oh, yeah. The right paperwork and knowing where to start.  

[01:14:30] Unknown:

Yes. Have you ever heard the old saying that a Gordian knot has to be untied the way it was tied?  

[01:14:37] Unknown:

Well,  

[01:14:38] Unknown:

understood about a knot. I never heard about a Gordian knot, but yes. A Gordian knot was a knot. Here's what happened. This supposedly true history. Back in Greece Mhmm. They had a lot of problems in the city with crooked politicians and stuff, and they got real fed up with it. And they said, okay.   The next guy that comes into town with a wagon full of apples   drawn by horses is gonna be the mayor.   Wham. The guy drives into town with a wagon full of apples   pulled by horses.   The Gordian knot was the knot that connected the horses to that cart.   And so because of that, they put the cart up and nobody could untie the Gordian knot.  

And Alexander the Great heard about it, and he came down there and he's the one supposedly that untied it. But there's two theories here. Did he take his sword and just slash it?   Or did he go back? The other option   is he went back and pulled the connecting   cog that connected the horse   and the wagon.   And there's the back of the knot, and he undid it from the back.   And that's what we've done. That's what we've done.   We've undone their plan   from the back,   and we present it to you   so you because it's their plan is set up in a 80 degree opposite. That's why the whole world seems upside down. And what we do is we straighten you out with these keywords   in your subconscious mind so your subconscious and your conscious are working together again instead of being separated. Because here's what they do, Tony. They go in when we're very young and through very   sophisticated   Pavlovian conditioning,   you know, like the   the condition response with the dog and the bell.  

And they go in and take these keywords like resident, citizen of The United States,   money. There's the first one right there, money. We we call that money. How stupid are we?   Okay? And they go and condition you   to the opposite definition of that word in your subconscious mind.   And your subconscious   mind controls 90% of your day. So anytime these words come up, your conscious mind may be saying there's something wrong here, but the subconscious mind overrules it. So what we do with you is to go back and take those words   and let you implant   the correct definition   to the words in your subconscious.  

Now your subconscious and your conscious are working together.   And as doctor Bruce Lipson, highly acclaimed scientist researcher,   said on Joyce Riley one time years ago, when the subconscious and the conscious work together,   it is empowering.   That's what we do. You're if you go through this, it's your choice. You go through this and you go back under god's laws   that you were supposed to have at birth that you got cheated out of in in this scheme.   Now you're reconnected,   And the more you learn the information,   the more empowered you get.  

And over a course of time, you're gonna become so empowered that you ain't scared of one son of a bitch on the face of this earth. How's that sound?   Sounds excellent. Sounds great. That's what we alright. Audience, is there anybody in the audience here that disagrees with what I just told Tony?   Star six and tell him I'm a liar.   Okay, Tony. You got people who've been around here fifteen years. K?  

[01:18:19] Unknown:

Okay.   Hey. Well, I appreciate the information, man, and I appreciate the lesson.  

[01:18:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, this one I'm gonna advise you do. I'm gonna give you a little suggestion here. Have you listened to any of my interviews?   No interviews. I just got on yesterday. Alright. Okay. Well, you need to go to the website, thematrixdocs.com.   And over there, there's a section that says new student section.   And you need to click on that and listen to some of those interviews. There's some excellent interviews. One of them with this character that talked a minute ago named Tom d. He's over there. Tom d had been studying this stuff longer than I had, forty years.   And I finally got to him through some intermediaries,   and we got to sit down. And Tom goes, I've been looking for this for forty years.  

And he'll probably come on and tell you the same thing.  

[01:19:13] Unknown:

Forty five years.  

[01:19:14] Unknown:

Okay. Forty five years. Well, there you go, Tony and William. You're, if you're brand new like that, the first thing you need to do is really familiarize yourself with with what we're talking. Because if you don't, everything's backwards and seems weird. But what we're doing is we're straightening the world out for you and allowing you to go forward and become your own full person.   It's totally free. And I will tell you this,   the degree of freedom you have   is gonna be directly correlated   to how well you have control of this information,   and you're able to defend it.  



[01:19:51] Unknown:

Roger.  

[01:19:52] Unknown:

Yeah. Dave talked to Tom William here. Oh, no. You're welcome, man. I I just wanna throw a little bit of levity in here because we talked about the Jews earlier.   My grandson, he's 12.   He sent me a video yesterday, and it's it's a it's a AI,   animated video. It's a song, and it's Hitler   apologizing   to the Jews. It is very funny.   It's a couple minutes long. I wanna give it to Paul   while I got it in my head where the channel is, and then maybe Paul can pull it up at   some point and play it. It you guys will love it. Paul? Alright. If you're on listen.   It's anybody can David, are you listening? Put it in the chat for others.  

So it's that's the I guess it's tilde, the little tilde sign symbol.  

[01:20:44] Unknown:

I'm I'm listening. I'm going away. I'm sorry.  

[01:20:47] Unknown:

You went away from it, Josh. First. Dave, hold it. Tell me when to start looking for it before you tell me what to look for. Go to YouTube.  

[01:20:56] Unknown:

Go to YouTube,   and it's called   Rucka Rucka Ollie is the channel. So it's my phone tells me tilde   Rucka Rucka Ollie.   So I'm guessing it's a tilde symbol.   How do you spell it? I think it's r u c a,   or c c a twice and then ollie. I I don't know. And that but the the song is called Treat   Jew Better.   So Rucka Rucka Ollie on YouTube and then Treat Jew  

[01:21:30] Unknown:

Better. Uh-huh. I like the one that was done by that Jew from Europe, this throw the Jew down the well. I like that one. I don't know where it is. Yeah. That's pretty funny too.  

[01:21:41] Unknown:

Well, this is this is supposed to be my grandson said it's AI, and and after I heard the song a couple times, it's it's Hitler trying to apologize   to the Jews. It's really Alright. Funny. And it's a great little catchy tune. Alright. We'll preview it and see if it's horrible. Animated   cartoon that goes with it that I can't see.  

[01:22:03] Unknown:

Rucker Rucker Ollie.   K. So those don't know Dave.   Better.   Dave is, Dave is legally blind. So you got some limitations. Yeah. This is, yeah, this is William again.  

[01:22:15] Unknown:

Hey, William. And that's the only that's the only sir.   Yeah. That's the only reason why I I, I I I if you can consider this show, because like I said earlier, if you were counting on the Jewish question, I ain't got goddamn time for you. No. No. No. I I ain't my he was a hero. He Hitler's a hero to me.  

[01:22:31] Unknown:

Yeah. I I agree. And we get on here, William, and I call him kikes   and dirty bastards, chimey Jews. And I'd say, please, please   put me at the very top with a bullet of your hate list, southern   sodomy pedophile larceny center there in Montgomery and the ADL up there in New York. And I beg them to put me on their hate list, and they won't do it. Yeah.   Excellent. Excellent. Okay? Yeah. That, time he shows I've got a question to go. Well, they're they're just a bunch of slime. Their whole thing hold on a second, Brent. Their whole thing turns   on them tricking you in this word set with your mind, and you agree into it. Yeah. Their whole deal turns on that. Now this is my old buddy from Atlanta, Brent Bachman, who's now out in Las Vegas, who wants to say a word to you guys.  



[01:23:25] Unknown:

Hey. I'd like to point out a terminological   in exactitude   that you just said.   You said that, you know, people have been here fifteen years.   I've been with you thirty.  

[01:23:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, before I had the show, I'm talking about the show. Brent and I were, were in the same Patriot Group in Atlanta Thirty Something Years ago. We've known each other a long time. K?   And he's a mighty good guy.  

[01:23:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I dealt with Sherry Jackson up there in Georgia.  

[01:23:53] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Well, I know Sherry. I've met her too. You can't get any of those folks. Yeah. No person. I still. Well, they're they're going. Well, tell Sherry Tony, by the way Sherry. Well,  

[01:24:03] Unknown:

Well, Brent tell him Brent is the white sheep of his family.  

[01:24:08] Unknown:

Brent is the white sheep. You talk talking to Tony, or were you?  

[01:24:12] Unknown:

No. Brent, I'm talking to you, Tony. Brent, the guy who just spoke up that Roger says thirty year buddy is, he's the white sheep of his family.  

[01:24:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, okay. Our family.  

[01:24:24] Unknown:

Oh, now what?   I had something to say, and now I've lost it.   Sherry Jackson. Oh, no. Sherry Jackson. Hold on, Joan. Sherry Jackson. Tony, you said you know her?  

[01:24:38] Unknown:

No. William. William. Oh, I'm sorry.  

[01:24:41] Unknown:

William. Whoever. So one of you guys said you know her,   didn't you?   Well, Sherry Jackson Peele was in Atlanta. We met her. She came to one of our meetings. Okay. I'm talking. I I'm I'm muted. I was muted. I'm sorry. Go ahead. You you know her?  

[01:24:56] Unknown:

Yes. I know Sherry Jackson. I got stopped paying taxes in Sherry's program years ago back in 1999.  

[01:25:03] Unknown:

Alright. Would you like for me to tell her and you can enlighten her as to where the law is? Because those folks, her and her and the the the other guy   from California   and and all these IRS ex IRS people, they keep going where's the law. Right? Where's the law? Where's the law? Have you heard that?   Yeah. Uh-huh. Go ahead. Would you like for me to show you the law?  

[01:25:27] Unknown:

Go ahead.  

[01:25:29] Unknown:

You got a search engine there?   26 Oh, I'm I'm I'm my hand is occupied. Tony, you can do it. That's okay. That's okay. I'm a quote it to you. Tony can write it down.   26   CFR,   that's code of federal regulations   Mhmm. 1.1   dash one   parenthesis   small a.   26   CFR   1.1   dash one parenthesis  

[01:26:00] Unknown:

small a. Okay? You want me to Did you get that, Tony?  

[01:26:04] Unknown:

Title, Tony. Well,  

[01:26:06] Unknown:

we can get it we can get it in a noisy environment.  

[01:26:09] Unknown:

Okay. We can get it to you.  

[01:26:11] Unknown:

We can we can get it to you at any time. Don't worry about it. Okay? Okay. I'm gonna quote it to you here, William. It says,   an income tax is owed.   That sounds like a law to me from the start, doesn't it? An income tax is owed   by all individuals.   When you get further along, you'll understand that that's a very important word because they didn't use person. They used individual.   An income tax is owed by all individuals   who are citizens of The United States   or   residents.   And   to the extent   of eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b,   all nonresident   alien   individuals.  

Are you do you think they're relating to referring to Tony the the tomato picker there?   Nonresident alien?   That's the national. They just relabeled it. You're nonresident   to the residency of the fourteenth amendment, and you're alien as a state citizen   to federal citizenship.   There's your law right there.   There's only two statuses.   You're either free   or you're a slave.   And right there in that section I just read you, it identifies   citizens of The United States or residents   as the people responsible for the tax, and we know that they're the slaves. I heard that. I heard that. I heard that. Person. Please hold on. Please hold on.   And the other person, no matter what the label is,   has to be the free one   by deduction.  

There's your law.   K?   Now who is the female that was trying to say something right there?   Now she doesn't wanna say anything?   Okay.  

[01:27:59] Unknown:

So I need to get that. Was me.   I don't know if that was me or not, but I was saying Jose the tomato picker.  

[01:28:06] Unknown:

So Okay. Any any of them. Any of them. Tony or Jose or whoever.   They're trying to lead your mind that that's a foreigner, and it's a you're a foreigner alright. You're a state citizen and not a federal citizen. So did you get that, William?   Well, William's off doing something.  

[01:28:24] Unknown:

I I I mute out, so I would have a background disturbance, so I had to mute back in. I I got it, but I didn't I didn't have a chance to write it down, so I can I have to get at a later show on this Tony moment now? Alright. When they come back tomorrow, we'll give it to you. K? Yeah. William, don't worry about anything.  

[01:28:39] Unknown:

William, I always have to run to the bathroom   to talk.  

[01:28:43] Unknown:

Okay. Does. Hey.   Yeah. I I do need to talk with you, my friend. The gentleman that just said something because, he wanted Tony d or something like that. He wanted,   pretty introduced pretty to the program.  

[01:28:56] Unknown:

Yeah. No. That was No. That wasn't him.  

[01:28:59] Unknown:

This was our Oh, I saw it. In California.  

[01:29:01] Unknown:

Waheed. Waheed,   the bank guard who has to step into the bathroom to talk.  

[01:29:07] Unknown:

Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.   Okay.  

[01:29:12] Unknown:

Okay. Well, we'll be back on tomorrow. I'd like to be able to write it down tomorrow for some reason. Alright. So has anybody got any, anything to give to Tony or William here this morning? Any of the audience like to open up and say something, ask a question, make a comment,  

[01:29:25] Unknown:

whatever. We're totally Yeah. I left a couple of yes. Raj, Raj, you said if we had anything to say to him.   Raj, yes. I said I left a couple of, blog sites in the chat for William.  

[01:29:38] Unknown:

Okay.   There's some blog sites in the chat, guys. If you can get to him, he's fine. He's out in California, by the way. He's got roofs in Louisiana. My friend.   Okay. Well, he he's out there now, dying to get out.  

[01:29:52] Unknown:

So, he's Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:29:55] Unknown:

Alright. Who's got something for William, Tony, or Waheed? Roger, I got a I got a question.   Alright. Here comes somebody. Who's this?  

[01:30:04] Unknown:

Hello. Alan Indiana.  

[01:30:07] Unknown:

Hi, Alan.  

[01:30:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I got a ticket yesterday.   I was wondering,   what is the verbiage for canceling the ticket and giving it to the district attorney?  

[01:30:19] Unknown:

Yeah. You can approach it a couple of different ways, but you're gonna if you're gonna do the   abatement process, you got three days. And I don't I can't give you that information   because I just don't know it. But somebody else probably here can.  

[01:30:34] Unknown:

Well, the not about the abatement where you you draw a line across the ticket and you say, I I do not,   I do not,   contract. I don't want a contract with you.  

[01:30:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Right?  

[01:30:49] Unknown:

I get you on the line. No? Show. Somebody here on the tangent.  

[01:30:54] Unknown:

Show, Alan.   And we can get it. You know, generally, we try not to deal with traffic stuff around here because there's no,   easy answers. What were you doing that you got a ticket for?  

[01:31:07] Unknown:

No registration.  

[01:31:09] Unknown:

Okay. Well, what I tell folks here is that if that's a battle you wanna fight,   you go fight it. Okay?   But, otherwise, if you   don't wanna maintain some sanity and you don't wanna go through all that I don't know. Either pay the ticket when you get it   or else drive carefully.   One of the two. Right. Roger. Yep.   Okay. Yeah, Marika.  

[01:31:32] Unknown:

I'm wondering if you noticed   our law enforcement already.   And if he did, he can renotice them   to remind them that   the notices were sent out and their superior   their superior is on notice,   just to make sure that's covered. Okay. Alan,  

[01:31:52] Unknown:

have you, are you on Merca's Telegram channel?  

[01:31:57] Unknown:

No.  

[01:31:59] Unknown:

It's in the chat. I also put added it in the chat. Welcome, William and Shannon. For you.  

[01:32:04] Unknown:

I understand, but I I for some reason, I can't get on Telegram.   They want me to have a   a a phone with   a Wi Fi, and I don't have that.  

[01:32:15] Unknown:

Yeah. You gotta have a the phone you gotta have it on your phone to be able to put it on your desktop.  

[01:32:20] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't have it. Okay. Anyway but, Well, anyway, someone is gonna put it Someone mentioned to draw a line through the ticket,   and you write on there,   cancel   the contract. I do not   wanna have a contract with you.  

[01:32:42] Unknown:

And comment.  

[01:32:43] Unknown:

Go ahead. Just hold on, Alan. Let's get the comment here. Yes. Who's that?  

[01:32:49] Unknown:

This is Carl in Utah. Two things. Just to finish up with the other gentleman,   he should get on to the website and   download the   nationals handbook   and to review all the videos, everything you've got on there.   There's so much information. He needs to look there first.   And then   about the tickets, I think the ticket issue is best to be discussed   after   the show because it's something that Roger   and you can correct me if I'm wrong. It's not a big thing that you like to talk about.   Well, it's the reason I like We have lots of good information.  

[01:33:27] Unknown:

Any federal situation, I got an answer for. These local fiefdoms,   these people that wanna hijack people, and, like, the the magistrate in Irondale, Alabama says, well, I don't recognize your affidavit. I'm just gonna throw two hundred and fifty years of a stag of his legal precedent out the window. How do you deal with that crap?   Carl?  

[01:33:48] Unknown:

Well, you gotta take it you gotta take the upper courts. The lower courts are gonna Well, we did that. No matter what.  

[01:33:55] Unknown:

Well, we did that. And it didn't do it didn't do any good because he, not having legal experience   and got another ticket in the same time period as he was appealing it, tried to   attach the second one to the first one, and they called time out that he had exceeded the time. So now Mike went to about four or five attorneys.   Not one of them understood what we're talking about here. So how does he take he doesn't have the money to take it to the Supreme Court himself. He can't find an attorney. What the hell is Mike supposed to do?  

[01:34:26] Unknown:

Well, if you can't protect yourself, then Mhmm. You're you're out of luck at that point because, no, the the attorneys aren't gonna help you. Well, yeah, they it's not that they're not gonna help you. They don't understand this. They went through traditional law school.  

[01:34:42] Unknown:

They still think inside the box, and they can't think outside the box.   So there that hadn't happened much. That happened that one time.   But here's a magistrate judge, a female,   throwing two hundred and fifty plus years of of legal lawful precedent,   including Vatel's law of nations, and just throwing it out the window arbitrarily.   That's why I don't like traffic stuff.  

[01:35:07] Unknown:

Roger.  

[01:35:08] Unknown:

Yes.   I'm here to help you get out of the federal system.   K? That's my bailiwick.   Yes.  

[01:35:17] Unknown:

This is Larry.   To answer Tony's question, when he first came on the air, he was asking about property,   if if we're gonna be able to have a lodial title to our property if this if this gets passed in Florida. And based upon what I've been reading,   I think what DeSantis is trying to do is he's just trying to do  

[01:35:39] Unknown:

I'm sorry. He's talking this is William. But is Tony, you still there?  

[01:35:43] Unknown:

I'm hoping he's still there. Yeah. He could listen to the recording, but Okay. Gotcha.  

[01:35:47] Unknown:

Recorded too. Larry's in Florida, by the way, William. Go ahead.  

[01:35:52] Unknown:

Yeah. I think what DeSantis is trying to do is, he's trying to eliminate the possibility   of anyone being,  

[01:36:00] Unknown:

you know I'm still here. I'm just muted out. I'm sorry. My hands are wet, so it's hard for me to try to unmute the phone. Go ahead. Listen in. Go ahead.  

[01:36:08] Unknown:

Yeah. I think what DeSantis is trying to do is he's trying to eliminate the possibility   of anyone,   being escorted off their property because they didn't pay property tax, and it's gonna take a constitutional   amendment to do that. And I think 60%   of the people   need to vote, you know, in favor of it, and that's what he's really pushing. But there's this guy   named Daniel Perez, who's the speaker of the state house,   and he's against he's against DeSantis.   And so you got two opposing views. They they're all wanting to save   tax tax money,   and so Perez wants to save   tax money on behalf of the tourists   and anyone that's   a resident of Florida that spends money. And so they're trying to eliminate or not not eliminate, but to,   bring down the state sales tax, I think, by, like, point 75%   or whatever.  

And that would make up for the for, like, $5,000,000,000   a year annually, I think, is what I was reading.   And so DeSantis wants to eliminate the property taxes because he doesn't like the idea if you don't pay your property tax and you you own your house and you've worked for that thing all your life, and then all of a sudden, you know, you don't pay your thousand dollar bill or your $1,500   bill, that the sheriff could come in and squirt you off your property, and now you got nowhere to go.   And he said that's not even American, you know, to do that. And so I don't know if that's really gonna give anyone a lodial title. I hear a lot of the stuff about a lodial title. I still have not seen any proof, and I've been researching this stuff.   Eugene Schroeder in his video Trading with the Enemy,   he said all the mortgages were seized in 1933.  

Nobody owns anything.   The state owns everything.   And so these few people that claim they got a lodial title,   where's the proof? Why don't you show the proof?   But anyway,   I don't think that's what it's all about. Yeah.   I don't think that's what it's all about. DeSantis just wants to keep people in their homes if they don't pay   their,   their, you know, their their property taxes.  

[01:38:22] Unknown:

What about these HMO people? These people that can't pay these this HMO scam stuff, this home   a h h a m, those homeowners   association,   that's a racket too.  

[01:38:35] Unknown:

Yep. Sure is. And they're gonna lose their apartments if they don't pony up the big dollars. You gotta remember that's voluntary to sign that, Roger.  

[01:38:43] Unknown:

Yep. I understand. If you wanna live in that community,   you gotta sign that contract. And all those things do is they protect   the values of the properties because you don't want someone,   like, for example, in one of those HOAs, it might tell you these are the choice of colors that you could paint your house on the exterior.   They don't want somebody painting it, you know, purple with polka dots.   You know? So you have you have to   give your voluntary consent to sign that. And if you don't agree with it, go move somewhere else.  

[01:39:15] Unknown:

Yep.   So, William, does that answer your question, whatever it was?  

[01:39:20] Unknown:

That was for Tony, but, I'm hoping that's on one Tony. Make sure Tony is on Tony's listening.  

[01:39:26] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:39:27] Unknown:

And I did anybody still talk he's not in Florida?  

[01:39:30] Unknown:

Do what now? He's in Jacksonville up there, Larry.  

[01:39:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Larry, is there any way we can exchange numbers and and communicate with Larry directly at at some point or no?  

[01:39:40] Unknown:

Yo. Yeah. Of course.   Larry, you got an idea how to do this? We've got several ways to do this.  

[01:39:47] Unknown:

Yeah. I just like to talk to them as well.  

[01:39:50] Unknown:

I think, I think Paul has my email. So  

[01:39:55] Unknown:

Yeah.   I just go somebody wanna give it to me or or I'm not on the phone, so I can't go into a chat. Okay.  

[01:40:02] Unknown:

Let me see if I've got your email in my database, Larry.   Take a minute.  

[01:40:08] Unknown:

Sorry. Larry Larry. Let's see.   So just look out for Larry Larry. I can just give you my number or whatever if I can if you want. Yeah. Thank you. Well, if you're not if you're not freaked out to do that, he can take it probably there. No. I'm not I'm not worried about it, though. If I I can I may have my number just 9098? Okay. You ready? 727   You wanna get as soon as  

[01:40:28] Unknown:

Larry, you ready?   He's a he's a FedEx delivery guy, so he may I mean, that's all good. Customer. Okay. Larry, you're there. It's Yeah. I'll just Okay.  

[01:40:40] Unknown:

727.   Is it William?  

[01:40:43] Unknown:

No.   What?  

[01:40:45] Unknown:

79827.  

[01:40:48] Unknown:

Stuff. Hold it. Who's who's talking in the background, please?   Ready. Please stop it. There's enough confusion going on here. Start again, William, and give Larry your phone number. 727.  

[01:41:00] Unknown:

Okay.   77277983092.   That's (727)   798-3092.   Okay. Groovy. You got that, Brad? Thank you. We're He copied. He should reach out to me because me and Tony wanna talk to you a little bit. He well, he will. He loves talking with other students. Okay?  

[01:41:22] Unknown:

Okay. Alright. He's very knowledgeable, so putting you in good hands. Let's put him in my There's also another one of our old time listeners   who's down in Okeechobee named Bob Morgan. No. No. And he always likes to meet the new folks in South Florida. There's enough of you down there. You could probably have a get together.   Okay? And we'll brief you that tomorrow. Who is that is that Larry talking is that Larry talking to a customer?  

[01:41:46] Unknown:

I think it is. I think so. No. No, Roger. It's not me.  

[01:41:50] Unknown:

Oh, it's not Larry?  

[01:41:52] Unknown:

Alright. I threw you on the bus. Larry will pull Please, folks. I mean, you know what? Please. Yeah. Well, watch your mute, please.   You know what? Okay. I'm new now this week. Over. Hold on. You're feeding over into our conversation. It's very distracting.   Please hit your mute.   Thank you.   Boy, we have problems with that. Alright. Now who else has got something for our our new students here, William and Tony?   We love new students, guys.   Now you gotta come back. You gotta come back. You're 10 feet underwater.  

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I think so.  

[01:42:27] Unknown:

Why does the lenses do that? He don't work in your house. Is that Tom? Is that Tom talking to his wife in the background?   Yes. It was.   Oh, there's Hold on. We'll get lady Linda back in a second.   She's got that   I'm underwater deal.  

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She's  

[01:42:46] Unknown:

Oh, I'm   not aware of thirty minutes.  

[01:42:51] Unknown:

No. I'm muted, Roger.  

[01:42:52] Unknown:

It's not Okay. Well, we're gonna listen to somebody else's conversation here.  

[01:42:57] Unknown:

Roger, it's not in, FCC. It's in a different area   because I don't see it.  

[01:43:03] Unknown:

Okay. Seems to be muted now.   May I? Okay.   Yeah. There you are. Now you don't sound so deep.   Thank you. Lady Linda, do you have something for our new do you have something for our new students here?  

[01:43:18] Unknown:

Well,   Paul did a soliloquy   on,   by operation of law.   Paul, where did you find that statement   by operate except by operation of law?  

[01:43:32] Unknown:

Well, I can tell you two places.  

[01:43:35] Unknown:

Go ahead. Right? Places are  

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HR one I think it's h j r. HR senate report s r one ninety two, I think, which was written about thirty days after March   '30 '3. It was in April.   And the end of that first paragraph saying everything's their property,   it says the very last except by operational law. That's the first place I saw it. Now the other place we've seen it consistently   is in bluff letters from the passport office   where they cut and paste all those different paragraphs,   but they always start with the first one the same. It appears by what you've submitted, you're a citizen of The United States. It quotes part of the fourteenth amendment,   says this cannot be unilaterally   waived,   blah blah blah blah blah   except by operation of law. That's the other place I've seen it, Linda.  



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Thank you, dear. I think that's important for William   and Tony   to recognize   as well. Yep. Thank you, Paul. Thank you all. I yield.  

[01:44:35] Unknown:

Yeah. And, guys, get this now. This is very simple for both of you guys. The fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma,   and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma,   are   citizens of The United States   and the state wherein they reside or residents.   That's where the resident word comes in. But notice the fourteenth amendment does not say   all persons born or not naturalized in The United States this out. Are   subject to the jurisdiction. Winter months.  

[01:45:11] Unknown:

I know. They're brand new. They're eights. What's that?  

[01:45:15] Unknown:

Why why do you can you not keep your can you not keep your mute under control?   Winter eights.   All that. You're talking to a female. You've been coming in on our conversation for a couple of minutes, at least ten or fifteen. Can you not keep control of your mute button? What?   That way. Yeah. You.   Can you not set control of your mute button?   Can you find out who this is, Paul?   Hello?   Alright. Tony, William, anything else? How can I help you? It doesn't say   are subject to the jurisdiction thereof.   It says and.   And if there's some that are and subject,   don't there have to be some that are and not   subject to?  

Done there?   Yes. There does.   Okay. Who else has got something here this morning? I'm tickled to death to have you guys. Thank you, Preeti.  

[01:46:16] Unknown:

Yes.   For Tony and William,   I wanted to point out in   title 26   CFR   1.1   dash   one   small a in parenthesis,   that law   that Jerry Jackson says, show me the law. Show me the law if there's a law.   And and what I wanted to point out about that is where it says,   what,   alien   What what's the word?   Resident.   Nonresident   alien.  

[01:46:54] Unknown:

Yes. Non  

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nonresident alien. William N. Coney. That's the national.  

[01:47:01] Unknown:

Yep. That's when That's it. When you  

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that's that's the pointing out the national, but they're disguising it as nonresident   alien.   And what they're pointing out is that there's only two taxes   that nationals   owe. All that other stuff, income tax,   no.  

[01:47:20] Unknown:

No. By the way, those two   that's right. And and I'm just gonna be, so tell you from Joan that both eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, the two individual,   statutes listed there, those are both constitutional   taxes.   So if that confirms it, I can give you other confirmation too. It's just all a big scam.   Everything's a damn scam.   And then you tap  

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right. Right. Scam. Scam. Fraud. Fraud.   And those two, $8.77   and $8.71,   well, gosh. What was I gonna say?   Oh, one is, dividends, like,   dividends on stock. If you're getting dividends from a stock, you will tax on that income, but only on that income.   And   no not   property tax. I mean, excuse me. I'll take that back.   Not anyway,   I just wanted to point that out. And, also,   what's the railroad?   What's something I remember when you and Mark all caps were talking about, something about   railroads. Bush  

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Rail Haber Right. Versus Union Pacific   Railroad,   which was the very first case   on the newly   fraudulently   ratified sixteenth amendment.  

[01:48:43] Unknown:

And but it's just a railroad  

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employees owe a tax, something about that? No. A dividend on railroad bond a dividend on railroad bonds.  

[01:48:53] Unknown:

Oh, okay. So just people who have dividends,   in as income.  

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Correct. And and and   if you really wanna get deep into this, you you if you make cap you bought it for a hundred and you sell it for a hundred and 50, and they paid you a dividend in when you held it, you don't have to pay a tax on the capital gains, 100 to one fifty. You do have to pay a tax on the dividend that was issued to you.   That's from an internal source   of a corporation   which has given its life   by the country.   So that's why you owe the tax.   Okay. Did you get is that what you wanna say, Joan?  

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Thank you. I yield. Yeah. Alright.  

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Now who else has got something for you? Comment for Joan.   Okay.   I heard the other day that some famous baseball player   was vacationing with his whole family down there in on the coast of Rica,   and his young son died   from some,   foodborne illness.   So be careful what you're eating down there. I don't they didn't say what it was, but they said it was definitely something he ate.  

[01:50:05] Unknown:

And I think it was, like, 15 years old or something. And I don't know who the ball player was. I never heard of him. Yes. I remember. I read about that. And it was something that it was something that, when I read exactly what it was, it was not of concern to me. And if I if I reread it, I can't remember what it was, but if I reread it, I would remember. But,   it was thank you. Thank you, Dave.  

[01:50:30] Unknown:

You're welcome.  

[01:50:31] Unknown:

Watch what you eat. Dave, you better watch what the hell you're eating up there in Michigan, buddy.   I tried. Everybody everybody else. You know? So okay. Who's got something? We're here at the tail end of the show. We got a few minutes left. You got any words, pearls of wisdom,   so to speak, for William and Tony?   There's somebody right there. Don Tom, is that you?  

[01:50:54] Unknown:

It's Sketchy Rooney.   I I just wanted to say that you need to, probably,   discard a lot of the stuff you did you have learned   because a lot of it is probably   myth   and bring this information with new eyes   and take it slow.   Take the information very slowly and be thorough with your understanding   of the information that we,   try to Which is. Express here.   And,   be like the turtle, not the rabbit. It's a marathon. It's not a race. You will be able to separate you from the federal government agencies  

[01:51:36] Unknown:

with the exception of those two constitutional   taxes.   Those are the only   regulations out of God knows how many   that you have to pay attention to.   And Roger.   We will also be able to help you get a passport   as a national,   and you can carry that as your ID. Yeah, Larry.  

[01:52:02] Unknown:

As far as you know, the federal government,   cannot give life to a corporation.   It can only do so through its political subdivisions   called the state ofs through the secretary of state. Is that correct? I think I think that's correct, Larry.  

[01:52:17] Unknown:

I've never really investigated   it very much, but it makes total sense   because you generally get   a corporation   through the state secretary of state.  

[01:52:30] Unknown:

Roger, have you ever thought about why they singled out   the federal government singled out eight seventy one b dividends   to be taxed on nonresident aliens? Like, why that particular  

[01:52:42] Unknown:

Well, because you're getting probably a period of ways that could have the source.   It's the source.   The source is a corporation given life by the state,   and you've purchased   stocks,   and they're paying you that dividend if you got a stock that produces dividends.   And because it's coming from an entity attached to the state, given life by the state, you owe that. You don't owe the capital gains because that's market driven. But you do owe the dividends a tax on the dividends   is my understanding,   Larry.  

[01:53:17] Unknown:

Now,   it the Brushaber, that was on bonds. So I guess it's dividends on bonds and stocks. Any any dividends.  

[01:53:26] Unknown:

Yep.   K.  

[01:53:28] Unknown:

But but Tony and William, not on your income from like, if you work and you're doing work or a job or work,   that income   cannot cannot be  

[01:53:40] Unknown:

taxed. Yeah. It can't be taxed. And in fact, if you've been William, you don't sound like a dutiful little slave   that's been filing. You said you've been with Sherry I've been in 1999,  

[01:53:52] Unknown:

so I'm I'm here. Okay. Well, okay. The tax question. Well, I  

[01:53:56] Unknown:

well, I've got I've got you beat. I haven't paid since about the eighties. Okay? So, anyway a little bit. That's right.   Anyway, some people can go through this process.   And if they have been a dutiful little slave in paying their taxes, once you go through this process,   you can apply for the last three years you've paid in, and sometimes you'll get it.  

[01:54:23] Unknown:

Well, I even went so far to do the OID. I got a hundred and 65,000   back,   back in 02/2010 for with the OID, the original issue of discount program   from from the IRS.  

[01:54:34] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:54:35] Unknown:

But, you know, we haven't paid, you know, we haven't paid since 1999.   We withdrew them.  

[01:54:41] Unknown:

Okay. Well, we don't know the IRS is in a state of flux at the minute. We'll find out as we're gonna perform.  

[01:54:47] Unknown:

Yeah. Destroy the motherfucker. That's all I can say.  

[01:54:50] Unknown:

Alright. Amen. Amen. Family show.   Okay. Any anybody,   anybody else got some question for Tony or comment for Tony and William?   Yeah. Are you guys gonna come back?  

[01:55:04] Unknown:

Yes, John. Yeah. I'll be back on tomorrow.  

[01:55:06] Unknown:

Hey, William. It will I Yeah. Is it is it okay for William to tell us Sherry Jackson's,  

[01:55:13] Unknown:

way of how he stopped paying tax? Oh, I didn't I didn't do it with Sherry Jackson. I did it with another group,   back in 1999. I figured out all my paperwork.   But, I didn't do it with Sherry. Came after you? The IRS is not coming after you since? No problem. For the OID moment for for a little bit, but then they back they backed off.   Well, congratulations. Because remember, I went into to get it. I went into court with the or with the bills of exchanges back in, 09/2004.   Maybe I think it's fifty years.  

[01:55:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Don't you don't wanna do that.   Yeah. No. We don't wanna go into a venue. That's true. But, I mean, I've done it. That's done it. I've done with that now. You know? You don't wanna be writing fraudulent paper. You hadn't even gone through this process. You're not an you're not a national yet. No. We did. You're subject you're still subject to their jurisdiction to my knowledge.  

[01:56:05] Unknown:

Well, back then, what we were doing is the security party back then. Everybody we talked to I know everybody we talked to. Everybody everybody the expert, everybody knows everything and all the old programs, the garbage. I don't I don't believe that. I don't I don't seem to believe that because Hey. Well, can I ask you can I ask you a question, Roger?  

[01:56:23] Unknown:

Go ahead. Yes. You can. Why you'd be interrupted? Go ahead.  

[01:56:27] Unknown:

That's   has anybody seen anybody with that   sisuke,   scheme   ever buy a car or a house  

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and able to reverse it? Anybody ever see anybody pull that off? I've never heard anybody being successful at it. We try not to mention that around here. I consider that more patriot mythology.   Okay?   Yeah.  

[01:56:53] Unknown:

Alright. So so, William so, William, you had to go into court to stop paying taxes?  

[01:56:59] Unknown:

No. No.   No. I I went into court for writing bills and exchanges back in 02/2004.  

[01:57:05] Unknown:

Well, how'd you stop paying tax?  

[01:57:07] Unknown:

Oh, we I withdrew from that in 1998.   I got my paperwork. It gets in storage now. I mean, I ain't dealt with that in so long. I I I could I I have to send you the paperwork if you wanna take a look at it. No. Yeah. I would plea please. Based on We know.   Uh-huh.  

[01:57:23] Unknown:

Uh-huh. John, you contact him on the side if you want that information.  

[01:57:27] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. Thank you. Bye. Okay. But, yeah, back in 1998, so I just recommend to do it y'all the way the way y'all do it now.  

[01:57:36] Unknown:

Well, we Can you say the Elodie O'Tidal thing is a fraud too? The Elodie O'Tidal  

[01:57:41] Unknown:

I didn't say that. No.   I've I've only known a couple of people that have ever done it, but I don't think it's a fraud, Wai.   Okay. There's our whistler, and that means we're done for the day. So,   another Tuesday. Good two new good students there. Tony and William, we're tickled to death to have both of you, and, we hope you,   become regulars around here.   But I would suggest both of you go back and go to the new student section   over there on the matrixdocs.com   and go and listen to some of those interviews   so you've got a complete picture of what we do. Okay?  

Because all you're getting is piecemeal on it today.  

[01:58:26] Unknown:

Right. Right.  

[01:58:27] Unknown:

Alright. Okay. No problem. Yeah. I think we'll get it. It's gonna take some homework. You're gonna have to unlearn   some stuff probably.   And, yeah, most of the stuff in the patriot community is bullshit, William. Sorry.  

[01:58:40] Unknown:

Because my Well, I have respect for the patriots, though, because at least they're fighting against the system of some form. I mean, I'm just stooges out there. I'm not saying I didn't respect them. Yeah. And I don't appreciate if I say anything.  

[01:58:50] Unknown:

Here. Let me give you an example.   You read the constitution,   it says they've got equity and admiralty law.   So people don't understand self help remedies.   They see the IRS coming and grabbing their stuff, and they go, we're under admiralty law. And they connect those dots because they seem to connect. But it's not true. We're not under admiralty law. We're under the uniform commercial code, which at its origins is called the Babylonian   merchant code. You're in Babylon, baby. You're a serf. You did it yourself, and you're in Babylon.   You wanna negate all the that part. We did we did do it ourselves. Yeah. Come back tomorrow, and you'll learn how to Okay. Anybody.  



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Alright?  

[01:59:33] Unknown:

Alright. Oh, yeah. And I think alright. Nice to meet both of you guys. A tickled death to have you. I think we're off the air now. Are we not, Paul?  

[01:59:41] Unknown:

Yeah. I just wanted to   respond about the elodiums whether they're real or not. Well, they have a history.   And then in that history,   the   strongest,   most   recognized   allodiums are not purchased.   They come through inheritance.   And us plebes out here, of course,   who weren't born with golden spoons in our mouth   probably don't have that kind of a lineage. However,   the book of the hundreds   points out that as a Christian,   you can take that inheritance through Jesus Christ,   and that's exactly   what I'm gonna   encourage people to consider,   that are Christians.  

If,   like, for instance, the the name of my document is gonna be,   this is   covenant and conditions   for elodium   dash land patent   in common law. It's gonna be the title of the document,   And it's,   basically,   something like this. I'm working on the worded wording yet, but   as a Christian and a national,   one of the people in covenant with Jesus Christ,   I'm a joint   heir with Jesus Christ entitled to inherit the land in Elodium,   free and unencumbered,   and to possess it as a national   under the dominion of Jesus Christ and the common law,   and I claim   the rightful   inheritance of the land in elodium.  

I I'm working on the verbiage, but I think you get the point.   I get into the land patent. Of course, it's got a chain of title.   But   this claim   is as valid   as any legal claim I think you can make, and you can back it up with the scriptures and the Bible.   And you might say that, well, that's not valid. Well,   prove it wrong.   You gotta make the claim. If you don't make the claim, you're never gonna get anything.   Yeah.  

[02:02:08] Unknown:

You're gonna die a US citizen because you aren't making any moves to go forward. All you are   is learning. You're smart as could be, smarter than most of us, but you don't take action.  

[02:02:21] Unknown:

No. I'm writing this out right now as we speak. I just   this is part of the document I'm gonna file at the county.  

[02:02:29] Unknown:

Don't you get that? Done so you can share with the rest of us because we wanna know what you're putting in because   you have taken more notes than anybody.  

[02:02:39] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I'm working on this. This is not I had this all notarized and ready to go in   when I realized   this   this inheritance   through Jesus Christ   was something that needed to be   worked in here.   I had it all ready to go six months ago.   And, yes, I have to procrastinate,   but I'm also working out.   And I intend to file it   relatively soon.   But, you know,   I'm also gonna run it by a few people that I trust   after I think I have it right   and see if they can shoot any holes in it, like my title friend who   also, unfortunately, had a massive heart attack and almost died, so he's been,   indisposed to, talk to regarding this,   etcetera. But,  

[02:03:35] Unknown:

Samuel, you are the procrastinator.  

[02:03:42] Unknown:

Well, you know,   I've also filed my affidavit.  

[02:03:46] Unknown:

Your deep diving into all this stuff, and you pull out some really good stuff. Great nuggets. Thank you. Dave, he's he's I filed my affidavit in 02/2019  

[02:03:57] Unknown:

as well.   It it was notarized on July 4 and sent out on the February   24.  

[02:04:07] Unknown:

Yours in July,  

[02:04:11] Unknown:

Yeah.   I sure did. I I wanted to make a point of it being,   being notarized on the July 4.  

[02:04:21] Unknown:

Samuel, they July 4.   Samuel, they they can't accuse you of not being thorough.  

[02:04:29] Unknown:

Well,   you know,   this   this whole thing in of law didn't really have a lot of an effect on me until I realized the spiritual nature of it.   And,   I think Rich brought up yesterday Viral   Viral,   spear   Spears.   And he certainly considered   the spiritual side and the common law side of things as being extremely important.   And,   I think that if if Vero would have had the book of the hundreds   and   the national status,   he would have ran with   it   in unity as well from   what I could figure out from,   poking into his past through AI yesterday. I spent about two hours looking at him and his book,   Pied Piper   of Babylon.  

Anyways,   just  

[02:05:33] Unknown:

just  

[02:05:35] Unknown:

Sharon, I'm not you know, I'm   I'm working on this thing. I've gotta still attach this to the original document, which   is just purely the land patent.   I've also created my own quitclaim deed because my county wants a quitclaim because   they file one of those so that they make sure there's no   monetary thing happening.   Yet I didn't like their quitclaim deed because the the verbiage is all commercial and screwed up. So I had to produce a quitclaim deed. I mean, it's not just so simple and straightforward.   And and over that six months,   I've made errors in what I thought was correct that are clear errors   in verbiage that I've changed.  

So it's not it's not all been for not.   I should've had it done by now. I'm not making excuses, but, you know, kick me in the buck buzz once in a while and,   you know,   it doesn't hurt.   Thank you all. I'll leave it  

[02:06:47] Unknown:

be.   Another example   of being a terrapin,   low and steady wins the race.  

[02:06:56] Unknown:

Where do you think you're going?  

[02:06:59] Unknown:

That's quite an open question.  

[02:07:03] Unknown:

Well, Sketch, I've been,   I've been taking care of   African saltpeda   tortoise   for the last twenty   seven years.   And,   he's pretty damn quick if   you know anything about tortoises.   This guy,   he's not   a bunny, but   pretty pretty fast.   Amazing   how far he goes in a little ways, especially when it gets loose.  

[02:07:39] Unknown:

Well, Gregory,   just watch your fingers. That's all I can tell you or your heels.  

[02:07:46] Unknown:

There's also a couple   of legal sites in in here, documents,   like Neff versus The US,   that I've tried to look up, but maybe that's something I should run by Mark, see what he finds because he's better at that than I certainly am.   Because it's it's important because it says the above,   described parcel of land being held in absolute elodium   at law cannot be subject to disabilities,   inequity,   and is impervious to collateral attachment   by the city, county, state, or federal government. Now that they cite Neff versus The US   in that thing, and   I've had trouble finding   that case   in application to what's being stated here. So   things take time.  

If you want to do it right,   if you're citing a case in here, you should have that case. You should read that case. You should understand that case. Correct? So   that's another little   hurdle that   I was gonna just let slide. And I says, no. You better know that case or get rid of it and put something in there that's,   you know,   that you do do have access to. And that's where,   Gibson books   comes in great, because he cites a lot of case law in there.   And in fact, I haven't gone into   his book and see if he cites NEF versus The US   either. But again, it just takes time.  

And I'm still working too.  

[02:09:29] Unknown:

Hey, Paul. Did you get a chance to listen to that song?  

[02:09:33] Unknown:

I put it in the chat there for you, Dave.   It's it's it's it's   quite an animation with a big heart   and Hitler on a swing and the other, I guess, the rabbi on the swing.   Yeah. That's that's a goodie.  

[02:09:50] Unknown:

I I really got a kick out of the song.  

[02:09:54] Unknown:

That was a knock on the door, Paul.   Thank you, Baldrick,   for   coming in   and quieting the room.  

[02:10:04] Unknown:

Daniel, what I said, I didn't mean rudely. Just FYI.   I'm just saying get off the pot here.  

[02:10:12] Unknown:

We all need your I We all need your I call. I took it I took it,   in the in the in the nicest light, and you're absolutely right. I'm   I've been sitting on this too long. I need to   I put it right next to my bed so that I at least review it every morning, and I look at what I still need to do. But,   I've got a lot of case law in here   that really should be shepardized   and looked at.   There's   also   it says in here,   because I got this from an old land patent,   allodial title document   in the patriot movement in probably the nineties.   And I showed this to my,   my title guy who's got, like, forty five years in a title experience,   and he read it. Of course, he wouldn't have known these cases either, but he says, wow. That's awesome. And I said, what do you like about it? He says, it's to the   point. It's clear. It's understandable,   and it's absolute. And I said, okay. You know?  

But now I'm adding these other things to it.   It'd be nice to keep it as short as it is. It's only one page. It's gonna end up probably being two.   But there's all these other cases in here too that they cite regarding this. The,   the conveyance of this this said parcel of land   is to be absolute and total,   and it's distinct from the conveyances   of an equitable interest under Admiralty.   And then it cites a whole bunch of cases, like five of them.   Now I should really have all those cases, and I should read all those cases. Well, I haven't done that yet either.   And that's a separate issue from the first case,   NEF versus The US, which they cite   regarding,   a allodial   title.  

Or not elodial title, like, that's what they have in this document, but that should be an elodium or elodial right.   Anyway,   I   think that   they didn't I could take this all down there and be refused as well. I was in 02/2010   when I did the,   the land patent. They wouldn't take it.   If they wanted to   scratch out all the verbiage that would affect taxing the parcel at the time, and I refused to do it. So they refused to document.   But   that was then. This is now. We've got a new, recorder.   My friend who had the heart attack and and is the title officer,   helped get her elected,   believes in the land patents, and believes that she will   take it under this title of a covenant and condition.  

And that's one of the reasons we put that in there   so that she has a rabbit hole that she can   legally put it in and accept it.   He said that they have roughly   12 rabbit holes down here in our county that they like to file things in. So if you make it easy for them to stick them in a in a hole,   it gets done. If you don't make it easy to stick in the hole, you're taking your chances.   So there's been a lot of strategy with this   as well as   other things. So then I'm like, well, covenant conditions, and all of a sudden   I read   this thing about   inheritance through Jesus Christ. And I said, wow. That's gonna fit right into covenant and conditions, isn't it?  

So it's it's   it's evolving in its own   particular way, I guess,   as well.   But I don't   you know, I'm I'm on here to share   whatever other people do is their business.   And,   yes, I've been procrastinating.   And if you wanna kick me,   I I probably deserve it, and I I won't take it badly.  

[02:14:20] Unknown:

Good.  

[02:14:24] Unknown:

I wouldn't call it procrastination   as much as I would call it,   being   extremely   thorough   because you're   you're you're still kicking the ball down the   down the road there. Right, Samuel? Not like me, which, you know, I'm   I'm just,   just kicking back, doing nothing.   Really,   procrastinating.  

[02:14:50] Unknown:

Yeah. I, I when I got in trouble with the law back in the nineties,   I I had a neighbor who,   ran a Hewlett Packard   retail business   and   selling computers and whatever. He was a pretty smart guy, and he   he says he asked me he came over because after all the shenanigans,   you know, deadly force raid   and surrounding my place with yellow tape and everything, sort of let the neighbors know that they had a special neighbor.   So he comes over and asked me what's going on. And I I told him, and he says, what a bunch of bullshit.   And then he says, they're gonna save you serve you with some paperwork. He says, you need to read and look up every word. I mean, and, za, but, if. You look them all up, and you get the legal definition of them. Right?  

And   about fourteen weeks later,   a motorcycle cop rolls up with a stack of papers about eight inches thick   and lays them on me.   So so much for looking up every word.   But   in this document,   I have that opportunity.   I can be careful about   the cases that I cite, that I understand them, and that I can speak to them,   etcetera. So   just   and I I had my signature in here with the UCC thing. I decided to drop that. I wanna stay out of commerce,   not in bring it into a document.   Again, I learned that in the book of the hundreds, that you really don't wanna be   you know, you gotta be careful that you're   you're not serving two masters here. So,  

[02:16:42] Unknown:

anyway. Yeah. That's just it. The,   the law you follow is the master you follow,   and,   we don't like being double minded.   Right?   Because that would make us unsure in all of our things.  

[02:17:02] Unknown:

Yeah. And at at some point, if I want to, I'm gonna make the argument that this should be taking me off the tax rolls.   All the more reason to understand   this thing completely and every word of it   as   and and and my feeling is sort of that,   you know, everything they've done to us isn't law. It's color of law. Our   our registration,   our name,   our citizenship,   All these have taken us away from   the the the law of the land or what was   into color of law. And I think if   if you actually removed yourself from all those things, that would be a way to make an argument with them that they should take you off the tax rules because they no longer have a color of law over you in order to be able to hold you to those things. Because they're holding you through those   those color of law contracts.  

Just a thought, you know,   on how to approach it later. But   and   my goal isn't so much to maybe get myself off the tax rolls. That would be sort of like baptism, you know. Really showing   that you're committed and that you've,   achieved something.   It would do that. But ultimately, it's to protect   myself from ever being removed   from the land   for some who knows what. I mean, the system can make up anything,   or it can make the taxes so burdensome that you can't pay them.   Things like that. That's that's happening to a friend   in a high end   place   on on the Coast Of California.  

They're they're,   you know,   they're they're basically making his I mean, I think he pays something like 5,000 a quarter now.  

[02:18:59] Unknown:

Hi. This is Mary from San Diego.   I just wanted to interject that our   registrar and recorder is completely, like, listed on Dun and Bradstreet in a private   organization I mean, it's a private corporation   where we don't have government anymore.  

[02:19:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I agree.   So And and I'm putting a a noncommercial   clause in this deal as well saying that this is not a commercial transaction that's going on here. This is under common law   with no commercial,   significance because   book of hundreds also pointed out. And when you make a a a record something   at the county seat, that's a commercial activity.  

[02:19:48] Unknown:

Good to know. Thank you.  

[02:19:58] Unknown:

The other thing I wanna do with that document is reference   an attachment, which will be my affidavit   citizenship   status.   Now I'm not sure the county's gonna accept me   doing that, So I have to figure out how they will accept that. So that's another thing I need   to go over with my friend to see if he thinks   that they'll record it   and accept the affidavit as an attachment   or whether it has to be   more incorporated into the document or what. So   because I   I'm I'm making reference to it the way I have it written now as an attachment.   But that may not fly either. So   I don't   you know?  



[02:20:47] Unknown:

Right.   You might wanna incorporate it and make it a notice, just noticing them and just drop it off at their desk.   They don't wanna file it. It's their problem.   Or just send it certified or whatever.   But,   what book were you mentioned a book that had a lot of case law, and I didn't catch the author or the name of the book.  

[02:21:11] Unknown:

Oh, Ron Gibson has a land patent book.  

[02:21:15] Unknown:

Oh, right.  

[02:21:16] Unknown:

And that's full of case law   Okay. On on the land patents.  

[02:21:21] Unknown:

Okay. Thank you.  

[02:21:24] Unknown:

It's worth having that book just for the case law, I think, in there.  

[02:21:30] Unknown:

Great.  

[02:21:31] Unknown:

But I'm hoping that Mark might take me up and look at some of these cases that I have here that I've had trouble   finding.   Not sure I've got the right one and things of that nature.   Miss Dasha helped me a little bit,   regarding this stuff and,   I don't know. It's   in in that one important case, Neff versus US. I just feel like I maybe don't have the right case yet because, you know, these things end up over time. You get more than one case   with   referencing almost the same names and stuff, and it's it gets confusing.  

[02:22:11] Unknown:

What case did you just mention?   NEF versus the US. Yeah. I got that one.   You think that's the most significant?  

[02:22:23] Unknown:

Well, that's the one that   that that that argued the   the allodial   right   cannot be subject to disability and equity and is impervious to collateral attachment by city, county, state, or federal government.   And that's got a whole bunch of numbers behind it, which I certainly don't understand.   165,   2 60 3, 3 70 7.   The next three, the next three, we'll get dressed,  

[02:22:53] Unknown:

then we can go outside, and we'll go in the garage. We'll do some cleanup.   Okay?  

[02:23:00] Unknown:

So when they put those numbers behind the case,   I I think that probably moves it into different areas. I'm not sure. I don't know that that well. So   that's where I think if Mark would to at least take a look at that particular case,   that might be helpful. I think the other ones are are better well known   that have to do with   a a conveyance in equity   or under admiral city law law that you're actually distinguishing this as   not being   in that kind of a conveyance.   And in the quitclaim deed, I'm basically   quitclaiming   it from myself,   the old citizen,   to the new national.  

Another reason to have the affidavit in there   or   at least the one liner   I could use in the document,   that I'm not a fourteenth amendment citizen.  

[02:24:09] Unknown:

Right. Updating our status. And then someone was saying that they filed it in the court, and then it gives thirty days for people, like, to comment and, like, make claim on their property.   He said he would never do like that without   doing that. I forget what that process is, though, what he filed.  

[02:24:28] Unknown:

Who?  

[02:24:30] Unknown:

Gibson? Who? It was someone on a call a long time ago, and he was that that's the only thing he found   wrong with the Ron Gibson stuff was that they don't go in and make claim to the land,   and then you give people thirty days to comment and then, you know, then it's yours after that.  

[02:24:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Like For for the longest time, Ron didn't understand or anything about the national status, and I think   that changes the the whole game. You know?   I have a friend who filed her land patent   exactly according to Ron Gibson,   and I think that's fine.   So I have another friend in the area   that's doing it that way, which   might also be interesting.   But I think   making   the   I think the claim needs to be in here that we're nationals. I think   Ron Gibson's process   and this is just a feeling. It's so arduous and   difficult   because he's basically trying to make a citizen a national in his in his process.  

Where we've just plain our nationals, so we   at, like, say, for instance, this posting of this for sixty days in a public place.   I talked over that with my   friend who's a title officer,   and he says I he says   doesn't think that that's   needed.   He says as a title officer, when we record that, we don't make any public notices.   You know?   But, you know, everybody's got opinions about all of this stuff. And  

[02:26:19] Unknown:

I forgot. Do you know what it is that it's like   you you say, like, you basically make the claim this land is mine, and, you know, if you have any claim against it,   then, you know, contact, you know,   contact me or something. But I forgot what the   what that is to file   because you do it at the court, I think. I wouldn't do anything in the courts  

[02:26:43] Unknown:

personally.   Don't want anything to do with them.  

[02:26:47] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:26:48] Unknown:

Yeah. That's true. My paperwork my paperwork is essentially my court.   And   what I would do though is at some point,   put a notice in the paper of record.   Who I am, what I am,   make sort of in Brose's book, he has what he calls his declaration of independence, and he   states that you should put that in your paper of record,   same place that bankruptcies and everything else go. Right?   Right. And run it and run it for this prescribed period of time that statutes say that you should   to make a legal notice.   In my case, a lawful one, I believe. You know?   And   and that's it. That that's where I would put notice, I think. Yeah. I anything to do with the courts.  



[02:27:40] Unknown:

Oh, that's true. Yeah. I did do one of just being a national and a private not in commerce. I forget the verbiage I used, but I did file mine   and notified everybody   that I could think of   that I'm a national.  

[02:27:57] Unknown:

It's the other feeling I have about our notices. I think those need to be strong legal documents,   stronger than just   handing them your affidavit and assuming that they understand it.   I wanna tell them   what I am, who I am, where I am, and how I expect to be,   summoned to   any anything they've got planned for me.   And if they can't do that, forget about it.  

[02:28:25] Unknown:

I could look it up, but I I when on my notice, I said if you harass me, these are the statutes.   I didn't say it like that, but I put the statutes in and the the laws   that I'm I'm gonna, you know, file a lawsuit personally against you because all of this is personal, like, people   trying to harm you, like, a corporation can't do it. It's like you have to go after the actual people that are doing it, which is getting harder and harder because they're using AI and false people and   and, you know, it has you have to have the grievance   with the lawyer of the DMV or whatever it is. You know what I mean?  



[02:29:04] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's why I like the abatement process because you're serving   the individuals who are coming at you.   Exactly.   And it's not through the court system,   which is   which is according to Stamper and other people I've read, it's an unlawful process, and all the abatement is doing is attacking the process.  

[02:29:30] Unknown:

What's an unlawful process?  

[02:29:33] Unknown:

The whole system.  

[02:29:35] Unknown:

Right. It it is now. I mean, it's they're not even pretending to be government. They're just these corporations lording over us. It's like  

[02:29:44] Unknown:

outrageous. There there you know, Brent talks about due process all the time. Well, where is it?   Yeah. They've got a lot of,   little   songs and dances and scripts for you to go through   to get crucified,  

[02:30:00] Unknown:

but there's no freaking freaking due process as far as I can tell. No. And then they just don't file it. If they don't like what you wrote, like I appealed something,   and,   and, they just wouldn't file the court just wouldn't file it,   like, to the the supreme court.   And that's like a crime.   Yeah. They just don't even want it on record because it's too   explosive. You know?  

[02:30:27] Unknown:

Yeah. And anytime the way I look at it, I I can be real purist about things. You know? Any anytime   you used their system,   you're justifying it.   And I don't wanna I wanna take their power away, not give them some more.  

[02:30:44] Unknown:

Exactly.   Yeah. That's why I like just the notices,   and then,   you know, if they come after you, then, you know, you go after them. But just,   I don't know. It's it's just it's so hard   sometimes. I think,  

[02:31:01] Unknown:

my feeling is I feel so strongly about the name that if I tell them I'm a Christian, you gotta use my Christian name to even bring me into one of your controversies.   I think they're alone. They can't they can't function   because they can only have you there in that name. They can't have you there in your Christian name.  

[02:31:20] Unknown:

Wow. Interesting.  

[02:31:22] Unknown:

So that's gonna be one of the major things in my notice to, like, the attorney general and the prosecutor. You know? If you're gonna   if you wanna talk to me,   you know, you're gonna have to use the proper name. It'd be like   if I'm sending you an email and I decide I'm gonna make that email up any way I want to to address you, it's not gonna get to you. Right?   Mhmm. Same thing here.   I I I believe   very highly that   they can only deal with the fiction in this phony system.   They can't bring in a real flesh and blood person. And but they've   they've got jurisdiction,   so   mopped up is   and Stamper says if you make a an appearance in court, it doesn't make a difference whether that's a special appearance. You can call it whatever you want. They've got jurisdiction   because you showed up.  

So  

[02:32:21] Unknown:

Yeah. But then what do you do? I mean, then your hands are tied. Some of these things you just have to think common sense and,   you know, obviously, you're gonna represent yourself and   and,   defend yourself.   You're not just gonna   not show up and then get arrested or something. I mean Well, there's where there's where you'd use the abatement.  

[02:32:43] Unknown:

So you've already put them on notice. You've already told them all these things that they gotta do to even talk to you,   and they've they're gonna violate them. Right?   Mhmm.   So you immediately   you've got,   you know, stuff to throw into your abatement   on where they're wrong now.   Are they still gonna throw you in jail stuff like that? Well, if you read the book, The Hundreds,   they can be pretty bad about what they wanna do if they wanna do it and when they wanna do it. So it comes down   to really a spiritual matter.  

[02:33:21] Unknown:

Exactly.   And the Christians stand, and you you can't worry about the outcome. You just have to be yourself and with your own knowledge and stand on your own two feet and on the ground and do what you can. What is that how do you get that book of a hundred? I tried to look it up once, and I couldn't find it.  

[02:33:41] Unknown:

Oh, boy. It's it's out there.  

[02:33:44] Unknown:

Oh, really? Who who does it buy?  

[02:33:47] Unknown:

About a group of people.   Let me go   see if I can   find mine and give you the   it's the fourth   edition.   It's   roughly the 300 page version.   The first third of it is like a history from a Christian standpoint of view of what happened to this country.  

[02:34:10] Unknown:

It's called the book of hundred.  

[02:34:13] Unknown:

It's the book of the hundreds.  

[02:34:15] Unknown:

The book of the hundreds.  

[02:34:18] Unknown:

Yeah. It's,   fourth edition revised with updates   under that title and then   containing the progolema,   to Kurt Marshall   rule matters concerning   his lawful assembly, the non statutory abatement handbook   written by several   bond men.  

[02:34:41] Unknown:

And  

[02:34:45] Unknown:

I can't quite read it.  

[02:34:47] Unknown:

When when was it published?  

[02:34:50] Unknown:

In the nineties.  

[02:34:52] Unknown:

Oh, wow.  

[02:34:54] Unknown:

It was done by a group of Southern California   Christian minded   people that didn't want anything to do with the system.  

[02:35:05] Unknown:

Right.   Great.   Hey, Samuel? I think we're all looking for ways to get out, and I think the collective consciousness is really starting to   be more apparent, at least for me. People know these things, at least unconsciously,   you know, even if they're not verbalizing it. I mean, we know the fires in LA weren't   natural.  

[02:35:33] Unknown:

Yeah. It says it's written by several bondmen   and unprofitable   servants   of our lord and savior,   Jesus the Christ.  

[02:35:49] Unknown:

Great. I'm a I'll look it up. Thank you.  

[02:35:54] Unknown:

You're welcome.  

[02:35:56] Unknown:

I just   this is Paul from Kentucky.   Maybe some of you heard,   me on   the radio show before or not, but   I really concur with what you all are saying.   I'm getting ready   to go to a pretrial hearing,   Wednesday   for a trial   in a case   where the plaintiff   has failed to state a claim.   And,   like you all said, when they get you into your their court, they they kinda can have their way with you.   My goal is is   worst case scenario,   keep taking it up to a higher court to hopefully seek remedy.   But everything that you all are saying hits close to home today.   Are you?  



[02:36:55] Unknown:

Samuel,   I'm wondering if if we could use the doctrine of necessity   to go into court   and still not have jurisdiction.  

[02:37:11] Unknown:

What do  

[02:37:13] Unknown:

you what do you think of that angle? About I'm not sure how that would work, but,   you know, I get misunderstood on this doctrine of necessity as if it's I'm refusing their stuff. I'm actually gonna accept it   under necessity,   but not waive my rights as a national.   So  

[02:37:35] Unknown:

Right. So you're going in there to to to keep the peace and not get arrested.   So that's   my only angle on the doctrine of necessity   is like, you say when you show up, they have jurisdiction. Well,   I'm only showing up under the doctrine of necessity.  

[02:37:57] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:37:58] Unknown:

I guess you could make that argument that you really don't you know, you're coming in peace. I think that's always important. I always forget   to to use that. I think it's very important   That's   just a feeling that I get from some of these guys I read that they,   they seem to   I you know, I mean,   the fourteenth amendment has that clause in it. And Stanford brings this up about being in rebellion, and   I truly believe that   that's   us becoming federal citizens   and rebelling against our state and because, you you know, that's pretty much how Stamper puts it.   So as a national,   we are we're going back to being at peace and and being a   a citizen of our countries again,   which would be our states.  

Right.  

[02:38:57] Unknown:

Well, I think the doctrine of necessity would, facilitate coming in peace.  

[02:39:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I I think that could could be an argument. Sure. Yeah. I mean, you're coming because   you don't want to be arrested,   ripped off out of your car and   right?   By somebody who may or may not   care whether he shoots you or not, you know?  

[02:39:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Not to mention the cage,  

[02:39:28] Unknown:

you know?  

[02:39:32] Unknown:

The best way is to not go to court. It would be get yourself ready   to be able to  

[02:39:49] Unknown:

What was that called again?   The doctrine of necessity?  

[02:39:55] Unknown:

Yeah.  

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Necessity knows no law. That's the that's the maxim.  

[02:40:10] Unknown:

And if there is a law, well, it necessitates   that you   go against   their manmade law   in order to   live in peace.  

[02:40:26] Unknown:

Again, I I don't know about going against. What you want to, I think, keep in mind is that you're gonna accept something like the driver's license.   Technically,   it's an adhesion contract. It cannot be changed.   But out of necessity,   you're going to take it, but you're not gonna waive your rights as a national   because you wanna remain at peace   kind of a thing. Right?  

[02:40:54] Unknown:

Exactly.  

[02:40:55] Unknown:

What was that?  

[02:40:57] Unknown:

Oh, I just said exactly and because I think there's misinformation   out there. Like, if I had given up my driver's license and given it back to them, I would have been in jail.   I mean, you have to I mean, I and I paid for it. My my reason in is, hey. I paid for this, and I can use it as,   what do you call it? Just identification   only.   I mean but, you know, so many people rush into this and then give them back the driver's license and end up in jail and their car gone. And, you know, I mean, no wonder why this movement has so many   problems.  



[02:41:38] Unknown:

You know, that's what Terry Lee did, though. He but he he did it in a very prescribed manner. He   he made a list of things that he wanted changed on his license, and I think the main thing was he wanted his Christian name on there.   And   so he went down to his DMV. I think that's Washington or Oregon.   And he asked them to do that. And, of course, they refused.   Then he said, well, then I'm going to volunteer this back to you   with these causes at mind. And he got a   piece of paper from the DMV that said he surrendered   for these reasons.  

And his thinking is   that now   if   a judge is looking him at him at as being lawless,   he's   he can say no, your honor. I tried   license,   but they refused   to put my Christian name on it, etcetera,   so I volunteered it back to them.  

[02:42:42] Unknown:

What what's different with your Christian name? I mean,   it is the name that you give them on your license. I don't get that.  

[02:42:50] Unknown:

Oh, the the all caps name is not the Christian name.  

[02:42:55] Unknown:

Oh, right.  

[02:42:56] Unknown:

And that's the only thing they put on these documents is   they're all caps name.   It's the only way they summons you to court.  

[02:43:06] Unknown:

Right. Well, I had luck with just, you know, revoking my I got a ticket. They took my car and all this,   you know, for driving with a different license plate and,   you know, thank God I had my license. But I revoked the ticket within three days, and   they dropped it at the the   state, you know, the court level.   And then I just had to deal with,   filing a lawsuit against the   the officers involved.   So but it my point is to rescind the ticket. I I don't I forget what the verbiage is on that.   But within three days, you can return the ticket to them.  

[02:43:51] Unknown:

Yeah. You That's That's that's  

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a statutory,   time limit.  

[02:43:58] Unknown:

Right. Exactly.  

[02:43:59] Unknown:

Did you prevail against the officers?  

[02:44:04] Unknown:

Well, what happened was is I had to file it in federal court and   at the San Diego,   you know, downtown, and   they   it was just they gave me judge Simmons   who who actually technically wasn't even a judge,   like, on the bench when I   when they they assigned him to me.   And then and I knew that they were kind of setting me up, so then I, like, I, dropped that lawsuit and then filed again.   And,   and then they still gave me judge Simmons.   And after I served, I first gave them notice and, you know,   sent them because you give them thirty days if they're gonna, like,   voluntarily,   you know, send the thing where they got the the summons,   and nobody did. And so then I hired a process server,   and then he offered he,   he ordered me to reserve the summons. And I thought, you know what? This isn't   you know, I I filed an injunction against the court.  

And then he's like, well, you can't do an injunction against the court. And then I I just dropped it. I mean, I just didn't know further action because I thought if I   pay to reserve the you know, it's just like then I'm into $600   for the appeal, and then I'm into you know, it's just like it was outrageous. But at least I got my   thoughts down, and I there were, like, 18 counts   of crimes   that these people did.   And, you know, at least I was able to articulate just to myself even what   what they did and the, you know, the extortion and the, you know, all this stuff.   It and,   so at least I got it down on paper for myself, and then   I carry it with me in case anybody decides to do it again. I'm going to definitely file, you know, a lawsuit against them   individually, and then I put the DMV on notice that the next time I'm definitely gonna sue the DMV   and the the the lawyer of the DMV and just the people,   you know, the people that are doing this to us because they're just corporations.  

And even in California, the DMV is now,   before   Dun and Bradstreet, I got some records, and they're based in Palm Springs.   In the in the And for long, they have to be in Sacramento.   And it's just it's a big corporation. They divvied it out to cartels or, you know, syndicates or something,   and they they just rake in the money from everybody.  

[02:46:50] Unknown:

In the book of the hundreds in your paperwork,   you have all these things that you're bringing against them, and they're called marks.   Mark basically means fraud. So it's   mark number one, two, and it goes through all of these things   of their illegal process   and putting them on notice.   Interesting.  

[02:47:13] Unknown:

Samuel, there there is a case   and,   the lovely lady that's speaking, there is a case   a woman brought   saying the process   is the punishment,   and she prevailed. She's saying this process was   antiquated and burdensome and harmed her, and she prevailed. I don't know the case. I wish I knew it, but there is a woman who prevailed saying   making the argument that this process is the punishment,   and it shouldn't be that way.  

[02:47:45] Unknown:

I yield.  

[02:47:46] Unknown:

Interesting.  

[02:47:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Roscoe Pound in his book makes he's got more than one, but   and there's a list of books in the book of the hundreds, and that's one of them by Roscoe Pound. He was born in 1870,   died in, like, 1964.   So he saw us go from   the common law into equity,   and he said that,   equity starts out, you know,   trying to make things equitable.   He says,   but it replaced   the common law,   and it got more stringent   than common law ever was   to the point where it's so inflexible.   You can't there is no law. So   that was a guy who saw   us go through it slowly. And in Stamper's book,   they said it was only the, like, mid fifties   when they started   changing from common law pleading to statutory pleading.  



[02:48:48] Unknown:

Who is Stamper again?  

[02:48:52] Unknown:

Well What did you write?  

[02:48:55] Unknown:

Fruit from a Poisonous Tree.  

[02:48:57] Unknown:

Oh, okay. I have that book. Right?  

[02:49:02] Unknown:

If you read just a chapter magicians, which is 40 pages, you get a pretty good idea what Stamper is all about. And he has a also,   an area on elodeon, which   is also on my reading list while I'm doing this paperwork   to read that   again.   But,   you know, a lot of these, a lot of things are also called Patriot mythology.   And I, I think I've been around this stuff for over fifty years and   a lot of these guys I think had good arguments. They just didn't understand   the difference between being a citizen in The United States   is a feudal system,   position.  

I think there are a lot of their arguments were good,   but they were thrown under the bus because they didn't realize   the national status.  

[02:49:56] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:49:58] Unknown:

There's, also a short little piece that   Randy Lee is one of the writers of the book of the hundreds that was part of the community in Southern California.   I think around Thousand Oaks is where these guys were.   So you're really not that far away.   Whether there's a remnant down there or not, you know, I don't know. But,   it's   he specifically   went in front of   a federal judge in federal district court   against   the IRS   and it's a short exchange   by the time Randy was done with them. And most of this   was about Randy not serving two masters   and that his Christian name   was pointed out and how he spelt it.  

And   when Randy sort of gets done,   the judge asked the prosecutor,   well, what do you have to say about this   this claim of,   misidentity,   mistaken identity?   And, the prosecutors   says, well, this guy seems to think that, he doesn't have the obligation   to taxes   depending on how I spell his name.   And   and he he paused, and the judge said,   next case.  

[02:51:32] Unknown:

Wow.   That's powerful.  

[02:51:35] Unknown:

But it   it it was more than that. He he could prove that   he wasn't working for a corporation.   He pointed out he was under the bear flag and his law was the bible, etcetera. He went through   a number of other things, but he did this quickly in a few sentences.   And then he said, you know, I'm gonna remain mute.   He also said before he started, for the record,   and he waited for the judge to say okay.   Judge said okay,   and then he started.   Smart. Randy Randy knows,   I think,   a awful lot because in the book of the hundreds, he's also the commentary   on how how people handle things and why and when and what's good and what isn't, etcetera. So there's there's a lot to be learned there,   I I believe   it. If you're looking   if you're in the right spirit, you gotta be in the right spirit, I think, to get any of this stuff.  



[02:52:39] Unknown:

Right.   My point was just that these judges are liable for violating your rights, and they don't like it. They they,   you know, they don't wanna be a part of that because they're   they're liable.  

[02:52:54] Unknown:

Our judges are just   like   people who are in medicine that know they're doing harm and are doing it for a buck.   Just doesn't matter anymore. Principles, you know, forget about that. I'm making money, and I don't care if I harm you.  

[02:53:14] Unknown:

Hey. Well, I'm sorry about the culture, though. They  

[02:53:18] Unknown:

forget. Yeah?  

[02:53:19] Unknown:

I just wanna remind every y'all everybody that,   according to the original thirteenth amendment,   we're not supposed to call judges your honor.   And any lawyer that uses the word esquire   with their name.   That those   honor and esquire are,   titles or positions or titles of nobility.   And the thirteenth   amendment says,   that's not allowed   here   in this, country,   in this government.   And so,   just   wanted to remind everybody that.   Thank you.   Bye.  

[02:54:02] Unknown:

Yeah. They're a jurist.  

[02:54:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Some people say the only reason that we stood for judges and that became the standard fare was because he walked into the courtroom with a bible.   They were standing for the bible   and the law and justice,   not for the man.   I don't know how true that is,   but it sorta makes sense.  

[02:54:27] Unknown:

That makes a lot of sense.  

[02:54:32] Unknown:

If you read the interview been listening.   And how long have you been listening to us?   A person from San Diego?  

[02:54:43] Unknown:

Oh,   I started listening to Roger about   three or four years ago, and then, I've taken some breaks, you know, and,   especially after that whole thing that happened to me, I just didn't listen for a while. But I, you know, I I learned from various other places as well,   but it's just kind of common knowledge at this point.  

[02:55:10] Unknown:

The hundredth monkey thing.  

[02:55:13] Unknown:

Excuse me?  

[02:55:14] Unknown:

The hundredth   monkey.  

[02:55:17] Unknown:

Exactly.   Exactly. I think there's way more power in the collective consciousness than we realize,   and I think we're getting close.  

[02:55:30] Unknown:

Very close. But how'd you how'd you find out about us?  

[02:55:34] Unknown:

That's a good question.   Probably expose the matrix,   that website.  

[02:55:43] Unknown:

You didn't just happen on it.  

[02:55:46] Unknown:

Oh, it was probably a YouTube video of someone mentioning it. Maybe Bad Wolf   or someone like that.  

[02:55:55] Unknown:

Oh,   okay.   So you were kinda out looking for this?  

[02:56:01] Unknown:

I you know, who really inspired me was Jackie Figg   and, you know, the   the Jack, the mini minivan guy on YouTube.   She inspired me because,   intrinsically,   we know something's   wrong and off.   And,   and then   there's people who have have researched and   and really kind of uncovered a lot of stuff. And it seems like the book of the hundreds   was is a good place to go as well.   You  

[02:56:39] Unknown:

lived in San Diego all your life?  

[02:56:42] Unknown:

No.   Oh.   California all my life.  

[02:56:47] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   I'm sorry.  

[02:56:51] Unknown:

Oh, I love California.   We're getting it back.   That's the good news.  

[02:56:57] Unknown:

Well, I left it back in '82, and I haven't looked back.  

[02:57:04] Unknown:

Hey, Mary. What's the best thing about California?   Thank you.  

[02:57:09] Unknown:

The weather, the beach,   the mountains,   the streams,   Lake Tahoe.   Just oh my gosh. It's so beautiful. And the palm trees and the   just every little place has their own little microsystems.   You know, just every little   city in Santa Barbara and   San Luis Obispo and just and then   San Francisco   and   I just love California.  

[02:57:39] Unknown:

And you're regulated   and revenued out of the enjoyment of it.  

[02:57:45] Unknown:

Well yeah. Well, it's just yeah. It's true.   So I pray for a solution for everyone and burned out and killed and paradise and I mean,   the list goes on.  

[02:57:58] Unknown:

The palace My mother's husband's house   got burnt down   in Altadena.  

[02:58:05] Unknown:

Who's?  

[02:58:06] Unknown:

My mother's husband.  

[02:58:09] Unknown:

Oh, wow.   Oh, no. I'm so sorry for that. Well, I have a friend who lost two two houses   into the Palisades.  

[02:58:18] Unknown:

Wow.   80% of the land and half of the people is conservative.   I know. It's a California, and it's it's just the cities that are running everything because of,   bullshit law like Reynolds versus Sims   that has affected every county in this country, not just California.  

[02:58:39] Unknown:

What does that law say?  

[02:58:43] Unknown:

Well, it was dubbed the, one person, one vote   law. So forget about your republic.  

[02:58:49] Unknown:

The commie law.  

[02:58:52] Unknown:

We're gonna   we're gonna take all of the,   the population of the state and run it from our cities because that's where all the people are and have the rest of the state have no   and their resources   have no representation.   Okay. It passed in 1962   by the Warren Court.  

[02:59:15] Unknown:

Weird.  

[02:59:18] Unknown:

The biggest gerrymandering   thing that nobody knows about.  

[02:59:22] Unknown:

Wow.  

[02:59:24] Unknown:

Did you study under Richard McDonald?   Mary?  

[02:59:31] Unknown:

Me? No.  

[02:59:34] Unknown:

Oh, did you ever hear of him?  

[02:59:36] Unknown:

No.  

[02:59:37] Unknown:

Oh, he was big out there   in the movement.   In fact, he was a fellow student of,   John and Glenn,   with Roger.   How close to Poway are you?  

[02:59:55] Unknown:

It's in the general vicinity.  

[02:59:58] Unknown:

Oh,   you know who the mayor is?  

[03:00:02] Unknown:

No.  

[03:00:04] Unknown:

Steve Voss?  

[03:00:07] Unknown:

Who's he?  

[03:00:10] Unknown:

Who's Steve Voss?   Well, he was a minstrel   of the patriot movement through the nineties.  

[03:00:20] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[03:00:22] Unknown:

Yep.   Then he,   changed his,   show name, I guess, to Buck Audi,   and he got the country music awards.  

[03:00:33] Unknown:

Wow.  

[03:00:35] Unknown:

Yeah.   Then I guess   he was raising his family over in Poway,   and he was on the council, and I guess they made him the mayor.  

[03:00:48] Unknown:

Well, that's good for them.  

[03:00:51] Unknown:

And then they had   a heebie jeebie incident out there, and he kinda   kowtowed.  

[03:00:59] Unknown:

Well, gosh. What I'm concerned about is, like, you know, Robert f Kennedy junior. We are all so excited that he's   on the CDC or the whatever board the,   and the last interview I saw, it looked like he was a it was a mask,   and now he's coming off of the vaccine thing   with the scare in Texas. He was saying you know, he was just not even talking like himself.   So, I mean, the the danger there is they just replace you if they don't like you.   And I don't even know how they got away with it. I mean, they replaced Jane Fonda. They replaced Rob Reiner. They just kinda keep the the alive of these people.   And, it's   it's really alarming. And, you know, same with I anyway.  



[03:01:48] Unknown:

Hey, Mary. Are you saying   that RFK Jr   is now saying, yeah. Get vaccinated?  

[03:01:56] Unknown:

But he had an interview   with a a newspaper, and he and it wasn't,   I I wish I remember. It was was a couple few weeks ago now.   And he said something like, well, the people that are sick who, you know, can't get vaccinated   or something. It's like,   what? You know, RFK? Like, he has been such a stalwart of   the anti vaccine movement, and he knows   he knows what's going on. And he and he he's like a a fountain of information every time he spoke.   And then now he's completely different, and he had an interview   with some guy, and it just he was just saying stuff that just didn't really even matter, and it wasn't like him.   And so I'm concerned   because, you know, even they replaced Papa   Roach,   a band that I I I love. They they replaced them. The singer isn't the same person and, like, what do you do?  

I mean,   what do you do when they take away people and replace them?  

[03:03:07] Unknown:

Now what did you mean?   What did you mean they take they took away Jane Fox? Around in the middle do.  

[03:03:15] Unknown:

What They just they they make masks. They they do a clone. They do you know, whatever they do,   if they don't if someone's saying something that they don't like, they just replace you   with somebody else.   Jane Fonda was saying something that they didn't like? I don't know if she you know, maybe she even just died prematurely, and then they wanted to keep the brand alive. So, I mean, it's clear that lady   masquerading   as Jane Fonda is not Jane Fonda.   Oh. I mean, for the last movie. I mean, you can look up to see her interview. Same with Madonna.   I mean, it was like you could see Madonna and then, yeah, she was, like, concerned because she knew they were gonna, like, take her out. And then they just replaced her with almost like a Latina looking I mean, how do even people get conned into thinking that's the same person? I have no idea.  



[03:04:09] Unknown:

Well, Jane Fonda long. Did you have a loan?  

[03:04:13] Unknown:

Yeah. And Jane Fonda was just on the I don't know. Was it the Oscars   where she presented a whole   speech about something?   You know, we all gotta work together.   We're gonna overcome.   Anyway, she was up there.  

[03:04:31] Unknown:

I didn't see the Oscars this year. Thanks for bringing that up. I  

[03:04:35] Unknown:

I I didn't see it either, but I saw in some news something news that she that she was   there. And so I just looked at her. I just looked at that one five minute, four minute, three minute, whatever speech   just to see what she had to say. See if she's gotten any more,   smarter than she   or whatever.   And, yes, she was right up there,  

[03:05:00] Unknown:

and everybody was clapping for her. Well, you can look at I mean,   at the interviews, and you can see when like, pretty much the year which when they switch these people.   They're not the same people.  

[03:05:14] Unknown:

Yeah. I I I know what you're saying, and I will say that even though she's 80 whatever,   she looked like she was about   60 or 50.  

[03:05:26] Unknown:

Oh, she didn't look like her father when he was in his eighties?   Damn.  

[03:05:34] Unknown:

Right. No.   Well, even, you know, these people deserve   some integrity.   I mean,   I just,   you know, to not have friends and family and to I I just I don't even know how they do it, and they did the same thing with that comedian.   Anyway,   that's a whole other topic. So  

[03:05:57] Unknown:

I don't know if they'd have to switch them or just threaten them, but, you know, Tulsi Gabbard has done that one eighty as well.  

[03:06:04] Unknown:

Well, she's like a I'm I don't even wanna get into it.  

[03:06:09] Unknown:

She's a lieutenant colonel in the army reserve or something like that now.   And what do you expect her to be?   She's in Oliver North.  

[03:06:20] Unknown:

Yeah.   And but, also, she's a some people say she's a man.  

[03:06:26] Unknown:

Might be that too.  

[03:06:28] Unknown:

Well, if when these people rise to power, you know, it's CIA or something. I mean, that wasn't normal   how they get on every show and,   it's just   it's so transparent.  

[03:06:44] Unknown:

Jimmy Doar does a piece on her where he shows her in the past not that long ago   to what she's saying now, and it is   unmistakably   night and day.  

[03:06:57] Unknown:

Is she on,   Epstein's list?  

[03:07:01] Unknown:

I don't know. Maybe as a he.  

[03:07:04] Unknown:

Maybe.   Well, when she was it was in Congress.  

[03:07:10] Unknown:

When was it Democrat?   Nope.  

[03:07:14] Unknown:

Oh my gosh. You need a ultra bolsa?   You need another bolsa?   You need ultra bolsa?  

[03:07:26] Unknown:

What's that?   It's bagged in Spanish.  

[03:07:31] Unknown:

It's she needs another bag.   It looks for.   Oh my gosh.   You need me to order you pizza or anything?   You who? You need any, I can order you pizza. I can order you whatever you want from,   if you want me to order you lunch, I'm happy to do that. You know what?   Okay. You need to use the bathroom. Come on in.   I'm okay. Wow. Look. It looks good. Yeah. That's a good tool. Right? Yeah.   It doesn't take you to the whole thing. Yeah. I like to hold, though, with my fingers. You know? I like to hold like this.   I love that. It's like it's like picking a zit. Yeah. You know, popping a zit. I love to pop zit. I used to love to pop zit. Did you do that ever?  

[03:08:16] Unknown:

Really?  

[03:08:18] Unknown:

T m I.   You in the radio, please?   How many orders in your place  

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Moving  

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on. Why not?  

[03:08:39] Unknown:

Yeah.   My train of thought's been derailed.  

[03:08:43] Unknown:

You can get it back on track.  

[03:08:48] Unknown:

And it's still 27 people on here.  

[03:08:52] Unknown:

The good info is here.   That's why.  

[03:08:58] Unknown:

Lot of dead air now.   Not that we're broadcasting or anything.  

[03:09:06] Unknown:

We're not?   No.  

[03:09:09] Unknown:

Okay. It's just it's just this conference room.  

[03:09:13] Unknown:

Hooray. Hooray for Troy and William, new   from Florida.  

[03:09:19] Unknown:

Yay.  

[03:09:22] Unknown:

Tommy and, William.   Yeah.  

[03:09:26] Unknown:

Oh, thank you.   When I was saying, I said I was thinking, is that right?   Tony. Tony. Tony and William.   I have a cousin I have a cousin named Troy.   I guess that was kinda on my brain too.  

[03:09:44] Unknown:

I have a question if somebody has an answer.   I was just going through my mail,  

[03:09:52] Unknown:

and  

[03:09:54] Unknown:

I filed my revocation of election back in the very January of   well, I filed at the June,   but actually   had the taxes   situated   in February of twenty twenty three. But I just received a notice from the IRS   stating they want me to file my tax returns for 2023.  

[03:10:22] Unknown:

When you filed your replication of election,   did you send your return in with it?  

[03:10:29] Unknown:

My return?  

[03:10:31] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:10:32] Unknown:

You mean for 2022?   I had already filed my 2022 taxes.  

[03:10:37] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Okay.   And you filed your revocation of election with it?  

[03:10:44] Unknown:

I filed my revocation of election   to the fact   and   filed it   with Blinken, and then I also   sent it into the IRS.   I got my return receipt from the IRS,   but I just received this letter   stating that they wanted me to file my 2023.  

[03:11:10] Unknown:

Usually, the revocation of elections done over a for a three year period.  

[03:11:17] Unknown:

I'm sorry. Not my revocation of elect I've I filed my status. I did I've filled out my verification of yeah. My affidavit.   My revocation of election, I haven't finished filling out for the three years.   But I filed my affidavit   with Lincoln and with,   the IRS.   Mhmm. So I didn't think I'd be hearing from them.   Now I planned on filing,   just to just to get a receipt   of filing, so for things like purchasing of a home or property that we plan on purchasing just so I have something, but I hadn't done that yet.   Mhmm. And I didn't think I had a time limit on it.  

[03:12:00] Unknown:

Oh,   did you get a   return receipt with your affidavit from the IRS?  

[03:12:07] Unknown:

Yes.  

[03:12:09] Unknown:

Oh,   well and you filed a notice also. Right?   Right. You know,   you know, what was it?   Notice to the,   whatever   or notice to the agent is notice to the To the principal principal   notice to the principals, notice to the agent, and all that.  

[03:12:33] Unknown:

Right. Okay.  

[03:12:36] Unknown:

Well, they've been notified.   There's better minds on this on here than me.   You'd probably have to, well,   do your taxes   and   put in the replication of election.   And,   and then they go from there.  

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So should I file a ten forty n r?   And then   put together my revocation of election for the last three years? Or   I mean, that was what I had planned on. That's what I planned on doing. I just didn't   realize that the IRS would   be sending me a notice stating that they wanted to receive   a tax return   since I had sent them the affidavit.   Mhmm. I figured they would just leave me alone from there.   Well And then any filing was on was,   you  

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know Well, I guess they don't wanna be   left alone   or leave you alone.   So I would do that, and   you stand to gain money   if you're overpaid.   Well, not even overpaid.   You stand to get all your money back, period.   Unless you had August,   b and eight seventy seven b,   you know, taxed   as,   you know, stocks.  

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No. No stock. No railroad stuff.  

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Oh, well,  

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you stand to get all your money back.   They open their mouth for milk, if you remember that commercial.  

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Like I said, I plan on filing it, but you want us to receive a notice from the  

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stating that   they're looking you know, the   Well They're looking for it. You know?  

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Well, thing is is   they took a gamble   contacting you, and now you have nothing but   to gain.  

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Just  

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And if you needed a down payment for your house,   this definitely is gonna add to it.  

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Right.   Oh,   there's here's a question. Because I   David.   I believe it was February   of twenty twenty three. So there's not much that I paid in in 2023 and paid nothing in in 2024.  

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Mhmm.  

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But   a lot in in 2022,   '20 '20 '1.   Do my three years have to be starting from 2024, or can I can I do 2023, '20 '20 '2, '20 '20 '1?  

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You know? Twenty twenty four's taxes aren't due yet,   so I'd go '23 back  

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Okay.  

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Quickly.  

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Yeah. Actually, quickly.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. I think April 15 would be her cutoff.   Yep. To go go back three years. To to get twenty twenty ones?  

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Yeah. Mhmm.  

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Okay.   And our mailing list is  

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They asked for it. They got it. Toyota.  

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Okeydoke. Well, I've gotta finish   researching into   the ROE. I have gotten that paperwork put together yet,   and I haven't been on the show in a while because  

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grandchildren.   Never been talking about it.  

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You're the one from San Diego?  

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No. I'm in Colorado.   My aunt aunt my aunt Annie Mack, she's she's in San Diego.   Oh, okay. That area.  

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Oh, that was the one on 818.   That was just on.  

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No. That was Mary. Annie Annie's not on today.   Oh, okay. I I looked I looked in the thing. I didn't see her on today. She's usually on.   Okay. He wasn't on today.  

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Yeah. I hear Colorado is a hard nut to crack as far as, the tax thing.  

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Well, the thing is is I continued to pay my state tax.   Mhmm.   I   haven't stopped paying state taxes. That state owes me a lot of money.   I haven't stopped paying state taxes.   For some reason, when,   we did the   did the paperwork with   with, the job. It was just   for the state just kept pulling, and federal   was the one that   I just let it be.   Figuring I would deal with the state later. They don't take nearly as much as federal.  

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But it's the fact that they take it.  

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It is. It is. Well, and I figured that when I   my revocation of election, I could get all of that.  

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I mean, half my file a ten forty n r, I'll get it back. Mhmm. Sure. Well, like I said, Colorado, I hear, is a hard nut to crack.  

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As far as?  

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As far as not paying them.   You know? Oh. They they supposedly   go off of,   well, what's your unadjusted,   whatever you made federally,   you know, because all of them go off of what you pay for federal or you're being paid through federal.   And,   and it should be zero   if you if you've clear clarified your status.  

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Oh, but they but they but they Colorado   Spain's Raleigh. I don't know. I didn't know there was any difference. I think California is the same way. That's where I'm originally from.   They just they go off of what you made, not what you paid for federal.  

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Oh, not paid, but what you were paid through federal.  

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Right.  

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You know, as far as pay, what you put down   for what you make and as to how they tax you,   they go off of that too. Well, if you aren't liable for anything federally,   you aren't liable for anything statewide.  

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Right. And I thought that would I thought that would have just been an automatic, but since it wasn't, then I just let it be. I   Yeah. Just wasn't gonna mess with it at the moment.   Figured if I at least got the federal taken care of, I didn't know why state didn't adjust along with it. You'd think it would.   Now when you put in your paperwork   as far as   which you're gonna claim, state follows along federal. But for some reason, when you go ahead and you remove it completely, state says no, and they just keep pulling money.  

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Mhmm.   I don't know what to say.   Like I said, there's better minds on this than me.   Yeah. I I know nothing.  

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Try and get on and ask tomorrow too. Just just Yeah. Be good.  

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Because Mark should be on tomorrow too.   Yeah.   All on Saturday,   they're gonna heavily talk about IRS.  

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Are they? Okay. I'll try to get on on Saturday as well.  

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Yeah.  

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If I can get all this straightened out and just make sure I'm   doing everything correctly.   I mean, as far as the affidavits are   pretty positive I did all that right.   Got all that filed correctly, but   I I'm still  

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Did you go off the templates on, the matrix docs?  

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Yeah.  

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Oh, okay.  

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I mean, unless they've changed, this was back in 2022 that I did it. But  

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Well, you might check   and compare it to what you've written to what's up there now.   And you there's a few things you probably wanna add, you know, to it,   you know, what's up there now.  

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Because I Should I file it should I send them should I file another affidavit with the IRS?  

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Only if you think   there's something missing.   But if you put in the h or, yeah,   the,   CFR,   twenty six   one dash 1.1,   alpha or a in parenthesis   if that's not in there because they know exactly   what that is.   And if you put that in your,   in your notice,   they know what that's about.  

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Yeah.  

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And there's a notice on there also.   That's a good template.   And, also, it,   quotes Vatel's law of nations,   and they can't dispute that.  

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I see Remind.  

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At one time, somebody had put up a couple of times, in fact,   the   chapter and verse   of,   Vatel's,   you know,   talking about,   we have a right to pick what   political, you know, thing we're under.   And that stood since, what, the fifteen hundreds?  

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Mhmm.   Have to look and have to look and see because  

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I know I filed   my   affidavit, my, you know, notice to the principal's notice to the state  

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as a cover. Notice to the agent.  

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Notice that the principal's notice to the agent. Notice the agent is notice to the principal.   Yep. Okay.  

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You know you have your email address out in the open.  

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I have to go in and fix it. I only noticed that today.   Oh. I don't know how that got put in there instead of just my name.   I have to go into,   the app and fix that.  

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Yep.  

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I didn't notice that until I started searching today.  

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Unless you want it out in the open. You know? But No. That wasn't my intent.   Okay.  

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Okay. Well, thank you very much. That's the only question I had. I'll probably ask again tomorrow, maybe Saturday.  

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Okay.  

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I appreciate your help.  

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Not a problem.   That's what we're here for.   Hey, Sherry. You've had your hand up forever.   Oh, Sherry.  

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Yeah.   I've learned that, just jumping in is the better way to go. I yield.   Mhmm.  

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Yeah. I was gonna break out in the Frankie Valley,   Sherry,   if you didn't answer.  

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I'm sorry. I I walked away for a second.   I don't have my speaker turned up. Please repeat.  

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Oh,   I was gonna break out into that song Sherry by Frankie Valli   if you didn't answer.  

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Oh, no. I prefer the Journey   song, Sherry.   I yield.   And please do not ask me to sing it. I will not.  

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Go for it. I'm not acquainted with it.  

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For a while, I lived next door to the drummer from Journey just before they made it big.  

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And he said   you?  

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Keddle listened to his drum solos   all the time, and I complained, and he was a bit of a dick about it.  

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Did did did y'all hear  

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that   the   woman   preacher   pastor for that crunk pig,   you know, she's got that short blonde hair   And   that he picked for it to be the, I don't know, the the the pastor or the preacher or something of his administration.   Do do y'all even know who I'm talking about?   Anyway,   I heard I mean, I read somewhere   where she has been   divorced   many times,   and one of her   husbands or one of the persons she so called cheated on   while she was married was Journeys.   I don't some member of Journey, the band,   I don't know if it was the main singer or the drummer or who.   But did y'all hear any did y'all know any of that   about that woman preacher that he's got for the,   administration   or whatever she's for? I don't even know.  



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No. But what a journey.  

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Yeah.  

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She ain't right.  

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But no sin better than her,  

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also feminine.  

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You're breaking  

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up. I said those guys were also effeminate. I said, just give me your or somebody like that.  

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Mhmm.  

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Oh, that's good to know.   You.  

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R for the course.  

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That appears to be it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Tuesday edition for April 1.   And, boy, did it turn out to be an April Fool's Day to   end all April Fool's Days.   What a mess.   Anyway, catch us back here 11AM   tomorrow, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com,   global voice radio Net,   and,   homenetwork.TV,   freedom nation TV, go live TV, and stream life.two.   You can also catch us on +1 0690   if you happen to be in the Chicago area   or radiosoapbox.com,   for at least the first hour.   Radio soapbox is brought to   us by our buddy, Paul, from Caught to Green.  

For more information on the topics discussed, I'll be at the usual   topic.   Please go to the matrixdocs.com.   New students, you just click on the new students page. You will find a cherry picked list   of great   resources,   interviews, and information   to support your freedom and,  

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move you forward to a better life  

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and a more meaningful existence, I would think.   I'm Paul from Global Voice Network, shutting her down for the day. Thank you so much for being with us. We'll get you right back here next time   on the Radio Ranch   with Prodger sales.  

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Ciao.   Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.   Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.