In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of navigating the IRS as a national, exploring the differences between filing a 1040 NR and a standard 1040, and the potential for reclaiming taxes from previous years. Our host shares insights into the historical context of tax regulations and the importance of understanding one's status as a national versus a U.S. citizen. We also discuss the challenges and fears associated with transitioning to a non-resident alien status and the importance of proper documentation and communication with the IRS.
Additionally, the episode touches on broader geopolitical topics, including the potential dismantling of the IRS under the Trump administration, the historical context of U.S. taxation, and the implications of political jurisdiction. We also explore the role of the judiciary and the importance of understanding legal definitions and statuses in navigating both personal and business tax obligations. The conversation is enriched with listener questions and real-life experiences, providing a comprehensive look at the complexities of tax law and personal sovereignty.
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Yep. Thank you. So would we. And, we keep trying. Here's another stab at it on Wednesday, the, twenty sixth of, '25. And Roger says you're hosting the radio ranch, the name of our six day a week get together here. And, I did give the date stamp. I think I did there. Paul is twenty sixth, almost at the March. Very important personal month for me over the years, but, we'll see it go when we head into, of course, April with all of its pitfalls and challenges. Anyway, we're joined by a number of people who help us extend our reach all over El Mundo. And, the keeper of said platforms is mister Beaner, and we ask him to come out. And what I usually do, I better not say that. I ask him to come out and give these people, their, the, the recognition actually that they deserve, and we appreciate their help. Don't we, Paul?
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Yes. We do. We give them the just as it's. The GVN bumper wouldn't start. I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but, everything else appears to be working. So, it's all good. At we are on eurofolkradio.com. That, of course, is our flagship station. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We're on Global Voice Radio Network, my project. Working on, on launching a new stream for GVN and, also launching a stream for GVTV.net and, also, Bloody Hell Radio. We're we're going to be, we're gonna be launching that one Who? As well.
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Where did that come from? That's out of left field, Bloody Hell Radio. I think it sounds English a little bit.
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Well, well, it's it's a new pet project of mine. There's, Bloody Hell Radio and Bloody Hell Broadcasting, which will be the parent of Oh my god. Bloody Hell Radio and Bloody Hell TV.
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You may have a a tremendous English contingent over there listening just from the title.
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Yeah. It could be. Alright. And, we're, of course, on RadioSoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul from across the drink and, also one zero six point nine w b o u f m Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services, including homenetwork.TV, freedom nation TV, go live TV, and stream life Tube. And we are also on those platforms as well today. Cool. And Can we start an anti Pritzker? Could we start an anti Pritzker movement over, for Chicago? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Okay.
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Well, they just sure need to shake that fat bastard.
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Mhmm.
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We're, yeah, we're we're we're adding things. We're
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You're damn sure busy when I'm not here.
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Yeah. Well, what can I say? Not too much. This is what I do when I'm home alone and the TV is broken. You get bored and the cat doesn't wanna play.
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Yeah. Or your your laser pointer ran ran out of batteries or something.
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You know what? Those laser pointer batteries, they never last. They used to. They never last anymore. I see. With the cat for, like, twenty minutes. The conspiracy.
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That is that is fun playing with cats with a laser pointer. I gotta admit. Okay. Well, here we go. Ma'arg, are you with us yet? A straw man there? Did you get him out of bed and get him coffeed up and everything?
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Oh, yeah. He's
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he's laughing at him this morning. Alright. Good. Robert Lee Catholic. Glad to see you.
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Good to be here. Let's see. Good to have you as always. We got some we got somebody with questions for you or us. Alright. Michael. He's waiting in the wings here. I was just, of of course, as I'm prone to do, when I have to get up way too early and, get ready for the program here to be with you guys and gals. And, I was watching Harrison this morning, and he was trying to go over all of the executive orders from Trump and stuff yesterday. And, hell, he went in an hour and fifteen minutes or something. It took him to over. I can't certainly repeat all those things. But there were a couple of really, refreshing things. He was being interviewed by somebody and I don't know who the guy was conservative guy. And he he brought up has not been brought up anywhere near enough the demise of Ashley Babbitt and the heinous way that that was handled in the capital there by this goofball black guy that had got a medal for it. He got a raise for it, and he's still in federal employment.
And, he was asking Trump about that, and Trump says, well, I didn't know all that, and I'm gonna look into it. Well, you can color him gone. Okay? And other things, so remind us who Ashley Babbitt was. And she Well, Ashley Babbitt, she's a little diminutive female. She looked to be, you know, middle five feet or something. And she was in that crowd in the capitol where they broke the window in the petition doors into some hall. And and the gun came out with an arm behind it of the office, and it shot her in the chest and killed her. There was four people killed that day, and they were all, a MAGA people. While the the the liars tell us that there's five police killed in all these other lives that they just you know, I mean, look. Go back to Jesus. Go back to, Revelation two nine or three nine, one of them. I don't remember which. They both say the same thing.
Beware of those who say they are, Jews that are not there. The synagogue of Satan. And that that's what both of those verses say. They're red letter. If you've got a red letter Bible, they're attributed to Jesus. Man, he had a lot of foresight two thousand years down the line before Sabbateanism or any of this other stuff to make these statements. Okay? But one of them says they lie. Beware of those who say they're Jews that are not, but the synagogue of Satan, they lie. Well, I mean, that's true. They all they do is lie. They are in I think they're incapable of telling the truth, really. Oh, I'm never part of their religion, basically, that that you can lie to
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advance your, quote, religion?
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Well, you know, yes. And it's even more so with if you don't know this stuff, and I've studied these folks for many years, about thirty years. As long as I've been studying this legal stuff, I studied them. Because I always wondered, you know, the five w's, mark, if you're a detective or an investigative reporter, who, when, what, where, and why. Well, the last two, who and why being the most important in this instance, for sure. So I wanted to go off on a quest, and I've found more than I bargained for. I can promise you that. One of the things that's startling, though, that most people don't understand I saw I saw Charlie Gray speaking to IRS when he was in up on trial there in the Richard b Russell building in Atlanta.
And, he did a very good job on pro se, k, on a criminal trial. And you go in the courtroom, it's packed, jury's empaneled there on the left, The the prosecutor and the defendants, and Charlie's handling his own his own stuff. He he subpoenaed two federal judges and the district director of the IRS and got them on the stand. And that's quite an accomplishment in itself, I'd say, for a pro se. Yeah. I would say so. So any well, I've told the story, you know, about he's, he's got the IRA. Well, the the main part of the story is he started asking one of the Jewish judges if he took the Kol Nidre oath. Well, that's right there in the upper court. Nobody knows who that is. You know what that is for the most part. For the audience, it may not. That is the oath. It's the day of atonement.
I believe it's Rosh Hashanah. There's two really key Jewish holidays. They're always in the fall. One is Yom Kippur, which I believe is the New Year, and Rosh Hashanah is what they call the day of atonement. I'm wanting to sneeze here, so pardon me for a second. Preempt that. So they go into synagogue and, you know, when I was in Atlanta, I used to drive a back way home, and I'd go past this big synagogue. And you on those days in the, in the fall, man, you even though the the synagogue's off by itself, the parking is you can't find any. It's you know, the cars are everywhere. It's a very important Jewish holiday.
And in the old days, it's when you would say this oath called the Kol Nidre. That's k o l. I want you to go check this out. If you don't believe me, you're darn to be exposed to this. K o l, second word n I d r e, Kol Nidre. And they, they all go to that synagogue on that day. You can't you gotta get a ticket. You can't even get in there. Okay? And, to do this day of atonement Kol Nidre thing. And so in the past, I think they changed it, Mark, right around, Sabotage v as it was changed right about that time in history. I don't know the total background behind it, but they used to go there and say this oath to forgive them of all their trespasses, sins, lies, whatever, transgressions the year before.
So it was a day of atonement where you have a, you atone for your sins for the previous year, which makes sense. K? Well, in that period of time, they switched it to the future. So now they go and do a day of atonement for the upcoming year instead of the preceding year. So in essence, they make themselves James Bond. They give themselves a license to lie, kill, and steal. K? And so he was asking this Jewish judge right there in this court, did you take the call and the jail? And I'm sure nobody in the in the whole audience hardly knew what was going on. But, anyway, just to bring in the IRS, and I've told this part of the story before, He gets I think he was a district director, and, he had those little half glasses on. You know? Like, when somebody really wants to intimidate you and they lower their chin and they look at you over the top of those glasses. Have you ever had that happen before?
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No. No.
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Well, I have. Okay? In the record business, I had that happen. It's it's it's kind of intimidating. You know? And, so anyway, he's got this district director. He's got those little half glasses on, reading glasses, I guess. Right. And so the IRS usually when they come after you, if I remember right, they come after you with 60016011 and 6012.
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Isn't that right, Mark? I remember those three. It's been a while since I've had to study that.
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Well, yeah, I know. Me too. But I think he's reading the the the ire the district director's on the stand. Charlie's little diminutive. Charlie's only about five foot four inches. And, so he's questioned this guy and he gets the some question to him. And the IRS, commissioner there, well, he he he he lowers his chin and he looks at Charlie over those glasses. And the the regulation he'd read says, all persons, yada yada yada. And, he looks at Charlie, goes, you look like a person to me.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I'm telling you, you could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom. Now Charlie didn't know what John Benson taught us. He was a John Nelson student. John didn't teach that stuff, unfortunately, for Charlie because he had to go do about a year and a half there club fed in Atlanta. And, but the answer would have been, well well, no, sir. A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. I I get no civil rights from the fourteenth amendment, and therefore, I owe no correlative duties. Well, that would have been great if he'd an had an affidavit on file to back it up. K? Right. But, anyway, that's I just, spurned off on that thinking about Cole Deidre and whatever. Yeah.
So, anyway, we've got a guy that's been yeah. Go ahead, Mark. Put your piece in here.
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The the US code six zero one two. It's 26 USC six zero one two is called persons required to make returns. There you go.
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Of income. I'm sure that person word probably isn't important. Right?
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Oh, so yeah. It's very important. Very, very important.
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Roger.
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All well, there's Joan. Good morning, Joan. How is, life in Costa Rica this morning?
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Pretty pretty pretty nice. I wonder what did the judge say? What did the judge say when that man asked him? Did he take the did the judge take the coronary dose? I you know, I honestly, I don't remember. I can't remember the the dialogue. I just remember the incident. So I'm sorry. My
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my memory is not better, Joan. I'm sorry.
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That's good. Thank you. Have a good day. Okay, sweetie.
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Now, Mark, what I was saying is right before the show, I don't know if you were on or not yet. We've got a a listener, Michael, who's on with us. His mic sounds good. We had a little dialogue there. And, he's been a listener for two years, and he's just starting to step forward and ask some questions. And he said he was motivated by the fact that it was tax season, and he's got some some good old IRS or individuals representing Satan questions. Michael, would you come to care to unmute and step forward?
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Alrighty. Yeah. My name is Michael, from Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. Yeah. That's right. Yep. Do I sound like it?
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A little bit when you said that not as much as some others do. We've got a real good student who used to hang around here. I think he's from the Twin Cities area named Abram. I don't know if he's with us today or not, but you've got some other folks up there.
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Well, I used to listen to him. He come you know, I've been here for two years, so I I used to listen to Abram when he come on here. So yep. Right. Well, he was on just the other day, but we haven't seen him in a while before that. So hopefully, he'll come sticking his nose in again. Go ahead. Okay. So I've been to nationals. Well, in 2024, February, I've sent my first affidavit. I didn't like it. I heard I learned something new from you then I sent my affidavit again in July
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okay and then
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I noticed the IRS and the commissioner I don't know which day, you know, I can't tell you the day. I've done it or what day. Did you do it in 2020? It it was in 2024. Correct. Yep. And then I would say I could I didn't I dragged my feet and did not do any of the notice, is right. I got overwhelmed with how to cc and all that. K. I got overwhelmed. Put it on the back burner. Then I talked to a student a few weeks ago and then we spent the time and he finally got me going and I I re noticed the IRS he didn't he helped me with I re noticed the IRS I didn't notice with the Minnesota revenue department and man he helped me notice the Minnesota AG my local,
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the sheriff's department etcetera.
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Yep. Yeah all of that I mean, he had it all for me. We man, we spent damn near midnight. And, so that is done. And now I've got an appointment with my CPA here because I gotta give her I gotta give her a week to do my taxes. Right? And I can't go to her. I don't wanna go to her and start Do you have any Uh-huh. Do you have any $8.71
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or $8.77 b tax? I think I do. I think I do. Oh, well, if you do that, then you need to take care of it. Yeah. Well, that's fine.
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Explain what it can think.
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I mean, yeah. I let you and Mark he
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knows this better than I do. You you do dialogue here on this with Mark, my Michael. As as a national, Michael, you really only have to file a return once you've noticed the IRS. You really only have to file a return if you've had withholdings that you're trying to recover.
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What I'm trying to recover is my quarterly taxes that I did in 2024 because I didn't I didn't know what I was gonna do right okay so now we're gonna start I'd like to have some questions about the ten forty nr and the oi and how to get my quarterly taxes back Okay. And my lab my last year's ten forty is 23 pages. It's 23 pages.
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Well, we don't need we don't need last year's ten forty. Come up twenty twenty three?
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Yeah. Okay. Well, the the 10 Well, what I'm saying is what I'm saying is my when I go to my CPA, she's gonna expect to do something very similar as last year. Okay. Well, I don't wanna have that dial.
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Well, tell her you got good news for
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her. I got good news. My mindset here is I liked her to do a twenty twenty four ten forty tax return as normal. Tell her not to electronically file at you know just do it as normal I take the paper take it home with me and tell her don't don't don't violate electronically for me I care for the service you don't need to do that you don't you don't anything I need to do that So do you own your own business? Is that why you I am sole I'm sole proprietor. I've been I have I haven't had a w two in since I was 16. Okay. Very good. Now are you filing as a subchapter
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s for your business?
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No. So it all goes straight It's all going through my name and all through my own proprietorship.
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Simple. So proprietor. It's very simple. It would be, let's say, 10 a two page ten forty n r, and and you put your estimated taxes that you paid in Mhmm. You there's a place to put that in, and then you you don't owe a tax, so all that's to be refunded to you. It's right there on the form. It's very simple. If you go to nationalstatus.com Mhmm. There is, under the Remedy internal revenue service, Dave and Kaye give you examples of how to fill that out. And Dave filled his out. Now he was an employee, and he may get on the call today. I think he usually listens. But Dave was an employee.
Yeah. And he just filled out a ten forty n r, as an example on his website, and he got a refund. Now it did it did take a while. Now I've got a a client who's not part of Rogers regular listeners. They're going to try to do electronic filing of their NR. So, Okay. And and, Michael, if if you need direction on that, you can email me at strawman@mark,allcaps,.com. It didn't have to be capitalized. That's just my moniker. M a r k a l l c a p s dot com. Straw man at mark, all caps, dot com. So, you know, you can email me there. I can answer questions about your the the OI form.
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Sure. Can can I ask a few more questions on the ANR? Of of of cool. Lost my train of thought here. Okay. Like I said, my my my, ten forty is 22 pages long. It's got No. Appreciation schedule. It's got all of that. They don't
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You need to forget about that. It's unnecessary.
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Yeah. That was last year. So they don't care about so I don't need to attach any of my schedule c's or schedule f's No. Or r. The r 40 m r is very simple.
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When you're a national, you're a nonresident alien to the United States government's IRS. Okay? K. Now with that and if you look at 26 CFR one dot one dash one, as Roger brought this out and that dot fell out of my chair, you pointed out that US citizens and resident aliens are the ones that owe a tax and that the non resident aliens are exempt except under eight seventy one b as in bravo and eight seventy seven b as in bravo. Eight seventy one b, the first one, that first section, has to do with if you're employed by a railroad company. They have special tax breaks, they have pensions, and so it's a whole different kind of tax thing. So if you're a nonresident alien and you work for a railroad, that income might be taxable depending upon how it's sourced.
Okay? Then you got eight seventy seven b, which initially was saying that if you have dividends from, stock So, like, if you go out and you buy stock from a domestic corporation that's headquartered here in The United States and that particular stock version that you bought, right, maybe it's preferred stock, And it pays out dividends throughout the year just because you own the stock,
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that's considered taxable. What about being part of a cooperative that doing business with their co
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I get I get dividend checks every year. Is it is this what we're talking about? Well, I don't what kind of dividend is it? Is it from a specific stock that you own?
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No. It I believe it's just mutual fund is four zero one k or something like that. I really don't know. But Okay. Very unlikely.
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Dividend? Okay. Could be insurance. You know, there's this I'll have a funny side story to tell you when we're done with this. But, no, it's dividend payments from stock individual stocks that you personally own.
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As if I went and bought Nvidia
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or Yes. Exactly. You went out and bought Nvidia and and they had a preferred stock that pays you dividends and you receive payments, you'll get a $10.99 and it'll show you what your dividend payments were for that year. That's considered US.
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K? Same thing with Do you understand why, Michael? Do you do you understand why, Michael?
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It's
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they're registered with the corporation of the US. For Well, they get their life from the from the government. They have to apply to the secretary of state of their state to get permission to incorporate and all that. And because the state gives them life, then you owe that tax. Just clarify things.
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Right. Right. And then, now you can buy and sell stock and and make money, and that's not taxable. Mhmm. No tax savings. Receiving in Right. It's when when you're receiving income off that domestic stock that you own, that's taxable. Also, interest payments on bonds from domestic corporations. So, I don't know, you remember junk bonds? You had a bunch of corporations that were selling their bonds, which is just IOU. Yep. Michael Milken. He got in trouble for selling a whole bunch of junk bonds. Excuse me. And so if you buy a bond, a corporate, domestic corporate bond, and it makes interest payments to you throughout the year, and then you owe a tax on that.
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Not CDs or No.
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No. No. It's everybody looks for something outside of this, and I'm trying to say, if it's outside of this, it doesn't count. You're not taxed on it. Yep.
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Now that's the key I'm sorry. Go ahead, Roger. For stepping. That's the key thing you're gonna wanna put in front of the CPA if you what what's your goal with the CPA? To get her to understand what you're doing?
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No. My goal is, what if I get pushed back from the IRS eight months later after I do the filing? Oh. Is this gonna be a eight month delay? I'm gonna wander and sit here, wonder. I'm gonna keep coming on Roger's show and keep listening to you talk, and then here comes eight months from now. I get hit with some frivolous, filing
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here. I can't do that anymore. Well, you might get do that either. You you might get scared with a bluff letter or two, but let me open this up to the audience. Any of you that's ever gone through this that notified the IRS ever get any blowback from the IRS of anything substantial? So if so, please open your mic and tell Michael here that you have, because we're trying to sell I've got one guy on on Merca's Telegram group, the Jack Uh-huh. Of Colorado. Okay. Jack's calling. Well, he's dealing with Colorado state, not federal.
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Right. Right.
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Well, my plan is now to you know, I I I believe Minnesota is tied to the IRS as far as if I put zero income, I put zero income on Minnesota.
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And are they gonna squabble about it? Well, we don't know yet. You hadn't done it. Are the are you ready to fight for your freedom?
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I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. Sure.
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Okay. Well, then Did you pay estimated taxes with Minnesota? I did. I did. Okay. Well, that's the only way you can get those back is is by filing for a refund. But here we move forward, I would seriously consider whether you need to make, pre estimated or estimated tax payments if you don't owe a tax. If you and and here's how this works. If you didn't owe a tax for 2024, right? So you fill out your tax forms, $10.40 NR for the federal as a national, you're seen as a non resident alien in relationship to the IRS. And so if you didn't owe a tax last year and you don't expect to owe a tax this coming year, you don't need to make, estimated tax payments.
And then you don't even have to file a return for the next following year unless you What about refund?
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What about all of these ten ninety nines
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that are getting sent to the IRS as I'm doing business throughout the year That gets reported. It doesn't matter. So that's okay. You've put them on notice, so you're changed. So those come in as something that the IRS doesn't now have anything to do with because you've taken yourself out of the arena. That's what I was gonna ask you a minute a second ago and try and key in on this. Is that section that Mark quoted? Now the only reason I know that is because John Benson found it. I'd never found that. K? And early on, that is the one thing that really motivated me to keep going in this, was this nonresident alien thing in that that little regulation right there. And, my thought pattern was they went through a awful lot of trouble to put that there and hide it, didn't they? Well, you bet they did. So it's really important, isn't it? And yet turns out to be real important because the tax mechanism is the key to their whole system, and this section is the key to the tax mechanism.
That's why it's important.
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Yeah. Hey, Roger.
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God. Can you guys let me finish something? Yeah. Go ahead.
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Sorry. I just wanted to head in there. I am actually getting pushback from the feds. They're totally ignoring my ten forty n r. I mean, I think I'm redoing it, but they're acting like now I never sent in a return, and I have this frivolous filing letter saying that I'm trying to figure out how to respond to it. But it's saying if I respond with more Patriot stuff, they're gonna hit me with that $5,000 fee. And so I was thinking, why if they can charge me a tax on eight seventy one b, then why can't they assess a frivolous filing fee to a national?
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Because because you're not a citizen.
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You're you're not a citizen in their eyes.
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Well, yeah, but I'm interacting with them for that eight seventy nine.
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Does not matter. You're a nonresident alien. Think if you live some in another country and you filed a tax return because you had income that would be taxable, as a non US citizen, do they have the authority to to try to stick you with a fine or a penalty?
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No. Well, no. I mean, I guess if I guess if I filed a tax return for August b and did it frivolously, they might be able to say I did that one frivolously. Right? No.
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No. No. No. And no.
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Okay.
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Cannot hit you with the frivolous filing penalty. We already had a person that was over on, the Telegram group who, got hit with frivolous filing, and I directed them to, yeah, threatened. Yeah. Now if you don't respond properly, they'll try to go ahead and attach it, you know, and make try to say that you're, you know, that you owe it. But, I directed this person to the, sovereign education defense ministry dot org, s e d m dot org. Right. They bought a reply letter, a sample response letter to a CP 15, which is the frivolous filing penalty letter. They modified it because they had some stuff in there that really is geared for, I think more like a sovereign type thing that they make reference to a state national instead of just a regular national.
But they modified that letter. It's not a long letter. I think it's only like three or four pages. And as soon as they mailed that in, boom, they dropped all the, you know, threat of, hitting them with penalties. Actually, I think they may have hit them with penalties, but, and I could be wrong. Don't don't don't quote me. But I do know that it went away.
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I know you were talking about making a shorter letter. I don't know if you've Yeah. I just have I've been so busy with,
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you know, my my training classes and so forth. I have not done that. But, you know, primarily, I was just gonna, you know, take a similar style letter and just boil it down to the bare essence, you know. It's like the revocation of election that that I think people should mail in, and not everybody agrees with that, and that's fine. But the revocation of election, sample that's floating out there is 13 pages. Well, I was able to boil it down to one page and one legal researcher was like, no, you can't boil that down to one page and da da da da da. And so I said, Well, here's a copy of it. And they come back and said, Well, I think I'm wrong.
I think you boiled it down to one page. And we've used that one page and the IRS has responded and recognized it. So we confirm receipt of your revocation of election, and we've applied it to your account. So I do know that that it that it is effective. It's been recognized. So what you find is, again, let me let me explain this. And this has been a a running problem in the patriot community. In order for somebody to make money off of you and and they can't just give you a one page document and charge you a thousand bucks for it. So what they're gonna do is try to make it as lengthy as possible, even though it's a cookie cutter, and and try to get you to, you know, pay as much as they can get from it.
That's that's really rampant. And and when you look at the document, it's citing all this law, and and they're educating the person who's supposed to receive this document when it's not necessary, and they're not gonna read the whole 13 pages. I just wanna give them what I'm doing, the authority of what I'm doing, and then it's done. And then if they have a problem with it, they need to let me know. I mean, all of our cards, we're not hiding anything, we're not trying to sneak in and and do some kind of tax loophole or anything like that. We're playing with our cards straight up, and if I'm wrong, point it out how I'm wrong.
[00:36:47] Unknown:
Mark, do you know if you might have that letter done in the next week or so? Because I kinda need I'm up to my thirty days to reply to this, and it might be helpful because, otherwise, I'm just gonna wing it.
[00:36:57] Unknown:
Okay. Well, please, do me a favor, Jack, because, some days, I'm I'm like a a pinball in a pinball machine.
[00:37:06] Unknown:
No. I know.
[00:37:07] Unknown:
Send me an email. Like, first, I I don't know if we confirmed when the due date is on that letter. It's thirty days. So sometimes I'll the tenth.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Say again? It's dated the tenth, but online on IRS, it looks like they sent it on the twenty seventh.
[00:37:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, here's the thing, though. It doesn't matter. What matters is in the letter, and it says you got 30, does it say from the date of this letter or from the date that you received it? I think it's from the date of this letter. Okay. And and That's the tenth. The date of the letter, did you receive it somewhere near the date of that letter so you get your full thirty days? Well, I pulled it out of the mailbox on the tenth.
[00:37:53] Unknown:
So I don't know how they actually put the tenth on there. They said Well, they're advanced dating it. They're advanced dating it. So
[00:38:01] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. So so thirty days. Now be careful. We got thirty one days in this month. So it's not gonna be
[00:38:11] Unknown:
April 10. The tenth.
[00:38:13] Unknown:
It's gonna be the ninth. Yeah. I wanna send it before the ninth. Yeah. Right. Right. So need to put little sticky notes here and there. And, needs to be a daily thing that we're working towards and and getting a simplified letter that you can send off to the IRS. Okay. I'll email you today just to Alright. Just a reminder. Yeah. You're welcome. So back to my letter.
[00:38:37] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. I'll wait. Oh,
[00:38:39] Unknown:
yeah. Let let's finish with Michael first.
[00:38:43] Unknown:
No. I'm good. We we can talk with me. Okay. I didn't expect it to be all two hour. Oh, no. We can talk again on Saturday.
[00:38:52] Unknown:
Yeah. But the the thing is is that that it's scary for most people to make this change. Very scary. Now you're way ahead of the curve because a lot of people blindly went to a CPA for their business and the CPA goes, oh, you need to have a subchapter s. Well, guess what? Now you get to pay them to fill out two tax forms. One for the company and one for you individually. So they just doubled their money. Right? Now if you're a US citizen, a subchapter s or a corporate a subchapter s corporation is a way to write off all your expenses under the business.
And then any payouts through there come to you individually and then you got your personal exemptions and, you know, mortgage interest and all that other stuff that you can deduct off your taxes. You know? So that may, in some in some instances, make sense. But since you've taken direct payments to you individually, you don't have to worry about converting your your subchapter s corporation to to a just a sole proprietorship and having all the funds come straight to you. So you're way ahead of that curve. A lot of people had to painstakingly go and revoke their election to be a subchapter s corporation and then notify the IRS how their LLC or how they want their LLC to be recognized.
[00:40:22] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay?
[00:40:23] Unknown:
So you're you just skip that whole part, and now it comes down to, as a national, what income, what source of income do you have to pay a tax on? And that's really only if it's sourced from within, that's the key word, within The United States. Mhmm. So if you don't have a contract with the feds, you're not getting the dividend or interest payments. In other words, you know, from the domestic corporations like we just previously discussed. For the for the very most part, you're not gonna owe a tax. All those ten ninety nine's, they do show your income, but none of it's taxable. None of that's taxable.
[00:41:09] Unknown:
And Mike, can I interrupt for a second?
[00:41:12] Unknown:
Go ahead. Finish that out. Yes, please. Nationalstatus.com
[00:41:16] Unknown:
has a step by step explanation with examples on that. Now, I just I don't think they I don't think they do the, schedule OI, which is other information, but I think and let me put it this way. We've we've had students have used the o I, and we've had students who haven't used the o I. If I use the Let me finish, please. With the students who didn't use the o I, some of them got a refund without any additional paperwork. Others got paperwork saying we need more information, which was the same information that's on the other information schedule, the OI.
Okay. Basically, that information that was not part of the original filing. So I think if you've included the schedule OI that's attached to the ten forty NR, then you just preempt any delay in getting a refund. If that makes sense.
[00:42:22] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. And now that qualifies you, Michael, to go back and at least put in for a revocation of election if you choose to, and they may honor and they may not. We don't know at this stage. As of next week, I believe we start the external revenue service according to mister Lutnick there on Trump's Trump's counsel. So they're obviously gonna try and phase out the IRS. If you've got this situation, I'd get that in as quick as possible and maybe, quote, unquote, maybe it'll get honored. The point I wanted to make, Michael, was for this clarification and for the newer people. I heard Dan was trying to chime in there a second ago. There's only two statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Is that right?
[00:43:08] Unknown:
That is right. Heard you say it many times.
[00:43:11] Unknown:
Well, so you go to this 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, and it says, that income tax is owed by all individuals. Now notice, they use the word individuals there, not person. Isn't that interesting? An income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States and or residents and to the extent of eight seventy one b, eight seventy seven b, all nonresident alien individuals. Well, there's only two statuses, free or bond, I like to call it. And, we know which one the bonds are, citizens of The United States or residents. If you flip over to the next page there in the CFR, they have a question, who who is a citizen?
And it says anyone born or naturalized and subject to the jurisdiction in The United States and subject to its jurisdiction. Well, that's verbatim fourteenth amendment. K? So we know automatically which one the slave is, So it doesn't matter what they label this other one. We know what it is, don't we? And and you can figure that out and be astute about it and go, okay. Well, I'm alien to the fourteenth amendment, nonresidency nonresidents of the residency. You could say that, and that's what it is. Or you could even go a step further and say, well, let's look at these two sections of the code they're talking and referring to here. What are they?
Well, I'll be darned. They're both constitutional taxes. So tell me, what is Jose the tomato picker, which is who you think this nonresident alien is, what's he doing being responsible for constitutional taxes? Checkmate. They got nowhere to go. So, anyway, just a lesson for everybody. Larry and Dan were trying to say something there. And, okay. Larry, you're you're here. Go.
[00:45:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Concerning, eight seventy one taxes, eight seventy seven is expatriation, and eight seventy one b is the, the dividend tax. And concerning that particular tax, if someone owed that tax, eight seventy one b dividends on on investment stocks that they directly own, would that be represented by and I don't know if you know this or Mark or maybe another student out there. Would that be represented by a student receiving what's known as a $10.99 dash DIV, which obviously stands for dividends?
[00:46:02] Unknown:
I've never seen one of those before. I try to stay away from the stock market, so I don't know. Sounds like it would.
[00:46:14] Unknown:
Mark, would you know?
[00:46:18] Unknown:
Sorry. I had my my microphone on mute. But, yeah, if you receive a $10.99 DIV for dividend, it's an indication that that might fall under a taxable source of income. And you need to look into it, don't just disregard it. Find out where that dividend came from.
[00:46:38] Unknown:
Mhmm. There you go. Dan?
[00:46:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm here, sir, and thank you. Hey, man. That was me. Were you trying to say something? I got a bluff letter.
[00:46:50] Unknown:
Oh, you did? From who? Yeah.
[00:46:53] Unknown:
From the IRS. And it wasn't a letter like a form letter. It was they picked back up the billing that I had formally terminated. Uh-oh. Meaning, I I was in the middle of a tax payment repayment. I could always kept pulling myself into repayment as these years got harder and harder. And, and finally, when I re revoked the light the I revoked my, election. And then paying. I still continue to pay for a while because I was just afraid to turn it off. And then as my funds started getting low, I just switched bank accounts. And I stopped paying a thousand dollars a month. They probably owe me almost a million dollars if I could affect all my tax money. But, the so it's just a it's just another payment coupon saying, hey. Here's a payment coupon.
[00:47:42] Unknown:
So I still have a lot of money.
[00:47:45] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
Go ahead. I just wanna let you know. I just wanna left it alone, and I'm thinking, should I send it back?
[00:47:51] Unknown:
Well, Mark, you might unmute. It seems to me that you had some sort of an altercation with them, and you signed some sort of a payment schedule in a in a what do they call that? An offer and compromise. Right? Years back.
[00:48:06] Unknown:
Not a compromise. Just, when you're when it's under 50,000, you can generally each time send them an offer to a payment plan. As long as it doesn't stretch out any more than five years, they'll take
[00:48:17] Unknown:
it. Yeah. And they did. So How many were you paying on that? Many.
[00:48:22] Unknown:
A thousand bucks.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Well, if if I remember correctly, when you and I don't know about the one you're on. I I don't about offering compromise. And then they may be probably are compromised. Alright. Well, they may be, and they probably are the same. But I know that when you sign one of those agreements with them, like a contract, that in the fine print did you read the fine print?
[00:48:49] Unknown:
Of course, I did not. And
[00:48:51] Unknown:
it says the way it say of course not. It says that you agree to continue to file 10 forties for five years.
[00:48:59] Unknown:
Al, I don't know how far And it was after I got I got into the payment plan that I then finished the revocation of it all.
[00:49:07] Unknown:
So I I in my opinion, I revoked all of that. Well, well, you don't okay. But they might not recognize that. They're desperate for money. Right. Right. What, how long ago was that? You're right. Yeah.
[00:49:22] Unknown:
This was a coup two years ago, two to three years ago, that was the last time I signed anything with them.
[00:49:28] Unknown:
Okay. Push yes, Paul. And then I'm gonna query Mark. Yes.
[00:49:33] Unknown:
How long ago did they send you the the coupon book?
[00:49:38] Unknown:
It was one coupon letter, and it was about twenty days ago.
[00:49:42] Unknown:
Twenty days ago? Okay. Yeah. If they I would think that they're they're baiting you with a confirmatory writing.
[00:49:53] Unknown:
That's what it feels like because they're just asking you to make a payment. There's no other language in there. Hey. Where are you? Hey. You haven't filed these years. Hey. Is that a You need to rifle a response back rebutting that.
[00:50:05] Unknown:
Just remind them, of your revocation. Because if you let that stand and don't object, then they're gonna proceed. Fair enough.
[00:50:17] Unknown:
And and and and now the situation the situation here is different because we don't know how long the IRS is gonna be around. Okay? I mean, literally. So you can I agree? Write that into your whatever you're gonna do in your plan, but just realize that may be an element here.
[00:50:37] Unknown:
Absolutely. Could I get your e could I get your email? And you would rattled off a web address, not nationalstatus.com. I got that, but it was southern something, and I didn't Oh. Get a chance to log in.
[00:50:49] Unknown:
Sovereigneducationdefenseministry.org. S as in Sam, e as in Edward, d as in David, m as in Mary, 0 r g. Yeah. S e g m Dan. Dot o r g. S e d m. Southern
[00:51:07] Unknown:
education Southern
[00:51:09] Unknown:
sovereign defense Sovereign education. Education
[00:51:13] Unknown:
ministry.
[00:51:15] Unknown:
Defense Ministry. That's our buddy, Joshua All Builder. We've known him for a long time. Occasionally, we communicate. He's got another one called famguardian.org for familyguardian.org. It's a sister site, and you may wanna, check into both of those, Dan. There's a lot of information on there. He prefers the written approach to this. I prefer the audio.
[00:51:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm down with both of it. And then your email address, I didn't I didn't get a chance to get that. It's mark?
[00:51:47] Unknown:
It's strawman. Strawman, just like it sounds, all one word, at mark, all caps, dot com. M a r k c a l l c a p s dot com. Does not have to be capitalized. Strawman@mark,allcaps,.com.
[00:52:11] Unknown:
And Mark is m a r k. Right? That's correct. Yeah. And you said call caps, like c a l, like I'm making a phone call? No. No. A l l. A l. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. It's a place spell out all That's too funny. You spell out the word all caps in your in your web address. Yes. Yes. Okay.
[00:52:30] Unknown:
Yeah. This is my moniker when I first, came on Roger's show. My my slogan was that your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction, and I still stand behind that. I didn't Your name in all capital letters does not automatically create a jurisdiction.
[00:52:52] Unknown:
Nope. Guess what else doesn't create a jurisdiction? The freaking stinking number on your driver's license does not create a jurisdiction, and the Or the judge agrees on that. Or Social Security number or any of that other stuff.
[00:53:06] Unknown:
It is you answering those two questions, yes, and signing something that solidifies. They created the jurisdiction under fraud. Those two questions you agree with it and solidify it.
[00:53:19] Unknown:
Absolutely. Is there any spit last thing I'll just ask? Any particular way you suggest I open up that that, letter? Because, I mean, I'll I'll toil over a little bit. Something will occur to me, and then I'll I'll say something good because I always do. But Are you able to scan it and send it to me? Right now, my scanner is broken.
[00:53:35] Unknown:
Okay. Do you have a local FedEx office or even a UPS, station? You can go in and have them, scan it for you and put it on a flash drive.
[00:53:48] Unknown:
And send it to, and I'll send it to that email address. Yeah. I just got by, like, one of those little office supply things and do it. A dollar. Yeah. You know? So, good. Now Awesome. So we take care of you there, Dan?
[00:54:03] Unknown:
I think so. I already revoked my election, so I'm just gonna say my election has been revoked. Why are you sending me a letter? I I rebut this. It's basically something along those lines.
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Well, stretch it out and and play it out because we're in a unique I mean, I never thought I'd be sad to see the IRS go away. Trump, if he accomplishes this, will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country if for only this. Okay?
[00:54:30] Unknown:
Dude, George Washington gave back the continental army, and president Trump,
[00:54:35] Unknown:
gave away the IRS. You gotta love it. Yeah. Right. Got really well. I refer to them as the individuals representing Satan, and that's who they are and do. But we I never thought I'd be sad to say they're go they're potentially going away. They've been my best friend. Our business model. Is that what's happening, Roger? It's their their recruiting abilities is uncanny. Okay?
[00:54:59] Unknown:
Right. Right. Right. I get it. No. I'm with you. Alright. Well, I think I'm all set. And thank you so much, gentlemen. Much love. Thank you, Daniel.
[00:55:06] Unknown:
Okay. We're gonna zip back to Michael in Minnesota here. Michael, what where where are you now?
[00:55:14] Unknown:
What does that mean?
[00:55:16] Unknown:
As my thoughts on the subject? Know? In this discussion and conversation, did you have other things? Are you unsettled about something? Where where are you?
[00:55:25] Unknown:
Well, I'm gonna have to relisten to what Mark has said to me on the on the call. I may have more questions maybe on Saturday. Yeah. My questions, I had a question on the OI. I've got a pre filled form sample that maybe Mark have seen floating on the telegram group. And is Mark there?
[00:55:53] Unknown:
Oh, he's there. Oh, he's here. Okay.
[00:55:57] Unknown:
Okay. So on that oi form, my understanding is when I put zero income on the NR, there's a spot where there, I don't know the line number, but it's it's, I think it's line k of total income exempt by treaty from schedule o I. And and is that what I put on the whole gross income? Yes. Through all my ten ninety nine, 10 90 nine dividends, all of that. Yep. And ten ninety nine INT where the interest I made on, CDs
[00:56:35] Unknown:
and Yep. Well, now you said ten ninety nine dividends. Aren't those an indication of ins inside source income? Didn't you isn't that what that means, Mark?
[00:56:47] Unknown:
Well, yeah. You gotta look I'm saying it's an indication that it might have come from a taxable source. Okay. So you've got to investigate it and decide if it's all determine that. Right. What where it came from. Most of the time, you see people getting it from a bank account that they draw a little interest off of or, you know, a CD or something like that, that's not taxable.
[00:57:14] Unknown:
No. Okay. Oh, I I see I see what you mean, Mark, in that differentiation there.
[00:57:21] Unknown:
Right. So if you get a ten ninety nine dash DID, you need to stop and consider where did that where is that source of income, you know. So unless it ties back to the stocks and bonds from a domestic corporation, then in general, it's not gonna be taxable.
[00:57:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I would have to call that your head around right now. It is a lot.
[00:57:55] Unknown:
And it's a lot of fear, especially during this time of year from January 1 to April 15. All you hear about on the news, radio, television, wherever, is about people that went to jail for violating the tax code.
[00:58:12] Unknown:
How about this? If I overestimated, say, if I don't know what the interest, that dividend interest is coming from, and I just put a number of $3,000 just to get the IRS to not look at it. I over overestimate.
[00:58:26] Unknown:
No. What happens
[00:58:28] Unknown:
don't do that?
[00:58:29] Unknown:
I can't imagine having dividends coming in at that level of $3,000. You gotta have a hell of a wallop that's delivering that.
[00:58:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But Well but don't do that. Your your your offer everything that you're telling me is coming out of fear based. Yep. Yep. Okay. You're afraid the IRS is gonna do this. You're afraid they're gonna do that. You're trying to appease them. And what if I throw this number in? And what if I it's not necessary. This is so simple. I wish people could understand it, but I'm not blaming you. You're not alone. Well, this is my this is why I'm on the call after two years. Yeah. Right? I hear this all the time. I hear this all the time.
[00:59:13] Unknown:
Alright. Hold on. I hear the whistle. Whistler. Let this all set up. Time. Mike, can you hear the whistle all the time? Just hold on, Mike. Hold on, Mark. Paul, front and center.
[00:59:24] Unknown:
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[01:00:01] Unknown:
You know what I have a constant recurring vision of is is that scene in freedom to fascism by, Rousseau when the who Right. And he's interviewing that guy Cohen, who is a former IRS director. Do you remember that scene? Right. They're talking Yiddish. The same. Well, they're talking Yiddish. K? Okay. And, so, he's questioning about the IRS, and Cohen goes, you can't do anything about it. Well, mister Cohen, you're dead ass wrong. We caught your ass thieving, slaving everything you do so well. We caught you dead to rights, and we can do something about it. So just, that scene has always stuck in my mind.
[01:00:54] Unknown:
You see, you I had the pleasure of screening that before it was released to the public in Las Vegas. It was either 02/2004 or 02/2005. Mhmm. And we had a regular size theater that, Aaron Russo, the producer of of the, America Freedom to Fascism, and he was there. And that place was packed. We had to stand out in line just to get in. It was Really? Crazy. Yeah. That's good.
[01:01:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So he's quite a guy. You know what his claim to fame was, don't you? No. No doubt. He discovered Bette Midler.
[01:01:36] Unknown:
Oh, no.
[01:01:39] Unknown:
For whatever that's worth. Okay. We were dealing with Michael, and we get to say goodbye to our Chicagoans, and I don't think the Brit folks are with us today. Anyway, we'll see if we can get back on track. Michael, it's incredible how they have controlled the whole nation through fear of these people right here, the IRS. And and you're such a I mean, there's no slight on you. You're not alone. You're such a good example here on the air of of, and I you should always they're like handling a rattlesnake. I guess you should always handle them carefully, but, they can always bite you. Okay? And sometimes you get the advantage, and that's what we've got here.
So, what what is there anything we can do other than just running it over in your mind is to to bring your confidence out instead of your fear.
[01:02:35] Unknown:
I'm just gonna have to go through my first tax season year as a ten forty n r individual. I'm just gonna have to go through it. Just gonna have to go through and and wait eight months and find out what happens.
[01:02:47] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Because they don't ever react that fast. It ain't gonna be just eight months. They don't react for a couple of years down the line. Yeah. They they do not move fast.
[01:02:57] Unknown:
So then, okay, I do this $10.40 n r. I get my I get my estimated taxes back to me. I stopped filing. I stopped filing in twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. Here we go it's all silent. Then seven eight years from now, boom, They're they send some notice to me.
[01:03:19] Unknown:
Well, seven years is the limit. Hey. You're off the air. What's eight years from now? You're off the air. Well, I you you miss I said seven years is the limit they can go back to my knowledge. Well, what I would do at that point, I hate what ifs. You know? If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Right? But I would confront them with your, notice and and that you sent them, or did this accidentally get lost in your files? Every time you communicate with them, you put that app copy of that affidavit and put it down as exhibit a or schedule a or whatever, and you keep sending them a copy of that along with whatever else you're send replying to. Now the reason for the madness is if you understand the way their system works, you're dealing with a court of record right here, and that's the initial exchange between you and the agency.
And that has to go in an administrative folder because that's the record of the court. K? So as you build on that, you keep sending them copies of that affidavit. If they ever wanted to come after you for failure to file, then anything that's been submitted to them is in that folder, can be brought into the administrative proceeding or court proceeding, and it bypasses the rule of evidence because it's in it coming from a court of record. So it's just one more layer of defense.
[01:04:49] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:04:50] Unknown:
What's worse, not filing or filing a ten forty and RNOI with a bunch of zeros
[01:04:58] Unknown:
every year. You don't have any obligation to file. So you're getting over that. I've always done it, so I gotta do it. Well, there's a way to not do it, and that's what you've moved over to. You've gotta get that confidence built up in yourself. Okay? And and I I I can help you, but I think maybe, but I don't but I I can't do it for you.
[01:05:19] Unknown:
Or maybe even Minnesota is gonna have a tougher time with me because I'm not gonna file it with the IRS. And maybe Minnesota is going to expect something.
[01:05:31] Unknown:
I don't mind people thinking ahead, but it's dealing with all these what ifs that leave you up at night. That is to me an exercise. That's probably not worth going through because they're the chances of them coming after you here. I've been on the air for fourteen years, Michael. We've been helping people understand and go through this as we've grown in that fourteen years, except for Jack here and what's going on with Michael Nail down there in stupid Alabama. Would you there's never been another, problem from IRS ever in all that time.
So I don't know what more I could tell you.
[01:06:12] Unknown:
You gotta you gotta know in your mind that you are no longer within The US, United States jurisdiction. So any income that's not connected directly with The United States it's not taxable and it's really hard because you believe your entire life that you've lived within The United States without knowing what the description or the definition is of The United States. You got a United States Of America which are the individual states that make up a union known as The United States Of America and then you got The United States which appears to be more of a corporate type of entity that is basically operating outside of the constitution.
I think Roger calls it extra legal. Right? So now you're wrapped up in this you're you're wrapped up in this administrative.
[01:07:08] Unknown:
Yes. Hey. Because it's the administrative that came from the switch. It wouldn't be constitutional, but under a bankruptcy, it's extra constitutional. Why? Right. Because every country in the world has bankruptcy laws.
[01:07:25] Unknown:
Yep. And and and you unknowingly have volunteered into that administrative system where you're getting taxed, you're getting punished, you're getting penalized if you don't file tax returns. You are no longer in The United States. If you filled out your affidavit and you send it to the Secretary of State or use it with an application for your passport you are no longer a US citizen, you do not live in The United States and any income that you make that's not sourced from within The United States is not taxable. You can keep coming up with all these scenarios that you think it would be taxable I'm just saying it's not unless you live in The United States.
So Michael you gotta realize you are no longer a US citizen and since you're no longer a US citizen you do not live in The United States.
[01:08:32] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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Unless you live unless you live in the District Of Columbia or maybe you live on federal land that's owned by The United States, then you're inside your jurisdiction. But even then, there's limits to the taxation. You gotta be in in The United States for a certain period of time. Okay. Well, hold on. On Rosendalya.
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We like these what if situations. All the students do. What if you were from the state of Virginia like Julie, and she moved into DC, but yet she was still doing business in Virginia as a national? Just because she lives in DC, they couldn't attach that, could they?
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It's not physical. It's political. Well, it it yes. It has to be attached to The United States. That's correct. Politically? That's correct. Pull yes. That's correct. Okay. Yep. Just a split here as you like to Yeah. It'd be like if you were a Democrat and then it'd be like if you become a Democrat or were a Democrat and you become a Republican, are you holding or beholden to the Democratic party anymore? No. Same thing here it's like like Roger's saying it's political. So if you're no longer a US citizen the does any of their tax laws continue to apply to you?
Maybe only in a very limited situation, like what we've discussed. Reverse the example
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and see if US for a long time, until fairly recently, last few years, was the only country that taxed their citizens on their worldwide income. If you lived abroad and made over so much, you had to pay an income tax. So it's a political thing no matter where you live.
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That's correct. I stand corrected.
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And if you go back to Elk versus Wilkins, which was the, case in '25 '78 or '84, something along that line, when the Indian wanted to come on and and vote as a fourteenth amendment citizen. They wouldn't let him. Went to the Supreme Court, and and they and this is the only case, to my knowledge, still to this day, Mark, believe it or not, that's ever focused on the and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And it was cited again in in Wonkiam Arc, and I know it's been cited since. I don't believe it's ever been, anybody else has visited it. And its statement was very simple. It says subject to the political jurisdiction thereof.
To the total or complete political, jurisdiction. There you go. Interesting enough because here it is. It looks like there's been a a speaking of birthright citizen, one of the congressmen has entered a bill. I heard Harrison speaking about it this morning, where they're gonna clarify birthright citizenship through the congress and go in and say, it's only if one or both parents of yours were, American that you have in that you have, what the heck is, entitled to slavery of birthright citizenship. Okay? And so and that's what's gonna turn on this whole decision with Trump against all the illegal aliens he's trying to deport. And they're going in. It's sitting up at the Supreme Court right now. And what I never realized was that in Elk v Wilkins, Elk's parents were still under the emperor of China, but they were in essence residents.
So they still had Chinese citizenship, but they were residing in San Francisco when they had him. And so that's what got him under the, under the label of birthright citizenship. If they would have not been residing, he would not have been given that, it appears. So that seems what the whole case up there is gonna turn on. And I think personally from my knowledge of this is very valid. Very valid. What's not valid is anchor babies, where mom comes across the river, mom and dad are Mexican nationals, they have the baby on on on the Texas side, gets a citizen of The United States, but they're still Mexican nationals. Doesn't apply there.
Capisce? Are we connected?
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Yeah. We're connected.
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Okay. Okay. Well, when I hear that vast silence, I always worry.
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Just noodling on it, Raj.
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So, anyway, that's probably and that's gonna be very interesting with our insight into this and understanding as this comes down, how they rule and why. And it's you could see right there in that last example, well, that's not legitimate. And that's what Eastman comes out and said, I've seen a couple interviews with him. We played him on the air here, the professor John Eastman of this little college, highly respected constitutional scholar. And he said, I can't find where that came from, birthright citizenship of the net foreign nationals coming in and having the baby. Because the other examples are, if you're royalty from another company, a country, or a visiting ambassador and you have your child, the birthright citizen does not apply to them.
If you're an intruding army and the child is born off of the army while they're intruding in the country, the child doesn't have birthright citizenship. And isn't that what we're dealing with here? Aren't we dealing with a foreign army of these migrants that were hustled in here and and provoked to come in here with incentives? And they don't fit any of those parameters if they've had these children. There's a few hundred children involved in this suit that have been born since this all started. And so I I it's gonna be very interesting to see how the court rules on that, Mark.
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Yep.
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That one that one's in the pressure cooker right now.
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Yep. I agree. So Interesting times.
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Yep. Yep. Boy, Trump is just blazing new new ground everywhere, and he's starting to get real assertive. I heard, they Dume Hitchee this morning. Harrison was going over get this, Mark. There's 15 judges in the Federal District. 5 of them were foreigners who've never been judges before.
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Woah.
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One of them, this, oh, what's her name? She's been real notorious in all this. She's from not maybe Jamaica, One of the islands in the Caribbean. Her father and from a family of communist. And her father and brother were so radical that the local communist party kicked him out. And it's the daughter that's the sitting federal judge. There's another one, and there's all five of them. Never had judicial experience. Couple of them had lit law degrees and stuff. But, Pee, unbelievable. Well, they're fixing to move on something. Speaker of the house came out and the you know, they have the power to do away with the entire federal judiciary. You knew that, Mark?
Yeah. Yeah. The only court that is in the constitution is the Supreme Court. Everything else is a creature of Congress. And, but article one, yes, and article three, judges and stuff. And, they have the power to do away with all that. And they may. They can go into one of these judges like this bad one that I can't remember her name. They could go defund her totally. She'll get all of her court officers and everything. Defund all of it. They still have to pay her, but she's got no impact on me. So there's a number of ways they can approach it, but the speaker of the house was talk threatening to consider doing away with the entire federal judiciary this morning from yesterday.
So, yeah, this is this is this is going going hot here pretty quick, folks. Wow. What now isn't it not interesting to be in this catbird seat here and see all this happening that's so important? And guess what? We understand it.
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Mhmm. Very cool. Brisk.
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Bruce. Well, good morning to you, Bruce.
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It is so far. Appreciate you talking about judges. Yeah. They aren't qualified to be a judge. What about There's a shitload of them. They
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they put 272. Okay. Go ahead. I'll quit interrupting you. I'm getting work out.
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Got those of offices. They're illegal, lawful. How many what? None of them do. How many have their oath of offices in hand along the bench while they're sitting there? They don't. Yeah. Well, you look you can't say oath of office.
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You cannot say that exclusively. There may be some that do. But if they do, it's a small percentage. I would agree with you.
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Yes. Okay.
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Moore?
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Roger. Moss?
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Moss? Yeah. Sketch.
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Yeah. I, is Mark there?
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Yeah. I'm here. I'm sure he is. Yeah.
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I asked this question yesterday with Roger, and I I liked his answer. And I'm just gonna ask you this question. Do we know that, I'm gonna ask it two different ways. Do we know if Joe was recognized as a national by the administrators in his court? And does, and do you believe that was the specific issue that or the specific filing that or whatever you wanna call it that turned his case, and I'm gonna ask it a different way. Now if Joe wasn't a national, do you think with all the circumstances that he had, do you think that the core quote warranto would have, saved his he would have still prevailed in his cases, NI Yield?
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Well, I don't think they recognize, Joe Lusticka's status as a national. They just blazed through everything, has challenged jurisdiction based off his status as a national. They just ignored it. And it went to doing a qua qua ronto, it's a writ of Quo Woronto, which showed their violations as a city basically violating their charter, which is to uphold the constitution. And that is what turned them quickly because Yep. If that goes forward, Joe could strip the city, would no longer be a city, period. And then he could, you know, put up, Lustica City.
You know, the vote of the people got together. They could rename their city and reorganize completely.
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Yep. So The way I understand it goes back to the whole to the whole people, Joe included Yes. If that reversed.
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That's correct. That's correct. So, that's why I kinda reversed it. It said if they voted to name it Lustica City, they could. But, that'd be funny, wouldn't it? It would be.
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Wonder if he could have gambling casinos and stuff.
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But the, the Quo Ronto, I don't think had anything to do whether he was a national or not. Now it's under common law, and I would say he have every right to file that. But that is what turned the city to, basically capitulating and giving him everything that he wanted. I don't know if he's finished that finished completely with them. I had they had one issue, I think, that was remaining. Discovery. They would they came back. The the the attorney that he just beat,
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there came back. So we wanna clean up discovery and some other stuff. We'll visit it. I thought he said in April. May maybe. But, anyway, they're dealing with violations. No. They didn't. They didn't wanna
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they didn't wanna leave any violations that could be held against them. So now think about this. If all that goes away, then the quo were want quo were want say that again. Quo Waranto is moot, and it'll be dismissed. Mark? Yes.
[01:21:37] Unknown:
It's me, Julie. Hi. Julie. Yeah. Hi. I read that the secretary of state for your state you're in is the custodian of all recorded oaths of office, of all arbitrators and judges within your state. That's correct. Well, so if you wanted to find out something for, because most of us since we're nationals are would be in a a state court here, you could do FOIA requests for them to find out if they have their recorded oaths of office. Do you know I don't even think I don't I don't even know if you have to do a FOIA. I think you can just ask them for it if they have it on file. Yeah.
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Come in. This is by us again.
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But hold on. Alright. I'll If you ask for a copy of the if you ask for a copy of an oath and and they just say we don't have it, you really need something in writing. So it'll either fall under your state's Freedom of Information Act or an open records request. In Oklahoma, it's called open records.
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Right. So Alright. Paul was next, then Bruce. Paul?
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I think in some cases, that varies state by state. What you do is you reach out to the secretary of state of the state and you ask them if they are the repository for the judge's oaths of office, or state officers oaths of office. They may tell you that they are, in which case proceed. There's a couple of states, I think, that turned that over to the reference section of the main library. How they wound up doing that, I have no idea, but
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it all starts with questions. Know that. Never heard that before, but check with them and see if they are. If not, ask them who is. Bruce.
[01:23:30] Unknown:
Yes. You go personally to the secretary of state's office. He didn't know you're gonna come there. You demand you want the oath of office of that judge right now. Oh, I got other things to do. No. I'm demanding you get it right now. If you don't have an oath of office, I need a letter from you stating he has no oath of office filed in this case in in this, department, and he's not a duly qualified judge. That's all you gotta do. Go there personally because they'll put you off for another week and do a false affidavit. I mean, open the
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office. Okay. So, obviously, British is a little assertive. Yes, sir?
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Yeah. I'm wondering, you know, when you have a court case, you can, you can, request somehow, I Mark would know this, that they, contact the the US State Department on your status politically and that they have to do that. I'm wondering if we could do that if we have a court case in the state that we can request through due process that the state come in and and produce the judge's oath.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, you could actually if you have a court case, I think you could potentially ask it through a subpoena, a subpoena deuces take them, which is third party records. But I don't know if that would fly because it's not against the opposing party. It's against the judge. So, I don't know about that, you know, asking it through the court. Now as far as your nationality is concerned, yes, you could go to the US Department of State in DC and ask for a certificate of nationality and see if they would mail that to the the court to show that you're a national and not a US citizen.
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But their side of it says it's discretionary whether they do it or not. And from our discussions, the people that have tried it have never gotten a response out of them. Now granted, that was the Biden administration. Maybe Rubio would be different. Don't know. I'd I'd I'd I'd love to see some people try it, see if we couldn't get something like that in a proceeding, but I don't I don't want you in a proceeding to necessarily have to do it. I'd rather keep you in the proceeding.
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Please try to avoid court.
[01:25:59] Unknown:
Do not go to court if you can avoid it. People, they you know, they did is it that they watch too many Perry Mason episodes when they're young or something? They're just dying to go to court.
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Yeah. Of course, that's where we ultimately have to defend our status if it goes there. You know? But I'm when you look at the time, the effort, the effort is just unbelievable. If you don't already have your research tight and and you you just get into a situation where you've never been before and you've never done any research in that area, you you're gonna have a battle. You're absolutely gonna have a battle, and you're gonna be scrambling every step of the way to get your research to to, you know, to, support your position. Are we playing marbles here? Sounds like it. Maybe Tiddlywinks?
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I don't know.
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I got a big steely right here. Going on. They money, money, money, you know?
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Yeah. Could be. Heard that song yesterday. They played it as an intro. Over there oh, I know what else I wanted to talk about. Did did anybody see Kyle Sarafin? He was on both Alex and, Owen yesterday, or do you even know who he is?
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I don't even know who he is.
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He he's a big time FBI whistleblower. He was one of those guys that got thrown out and all the stuff. He's a very interesting guy. He he's got three children. They boy, they treated this guy dirty, man. Anyway, as they have several of these whistleblowers, and he was on there for hours yesterday. Well, one thing he said get this. And he said, you still got friends in the bureau, of course. And one of his friends who's not in the DC office is out in the boondocks somewhere. And, he was trying to do something with a printer, and, and he couldn't get online with the printer and something was added to the printer software all of a sudden. And it was just like a module, like a folder, I guess. And it was all Epstein stuff, and it was 14 terabytes.
Woah. Woah. And he he says, look. The they're working to get this Epstein stuff, but there's there's so damned much of it. They're having so many agents assigned to it. They're going into one computer. They're crashing the computer because so many agents are requesting the same information, or not the same, but out of that area or whatever, that this guy told the story about stumbling onto 14 terabytes of information, all dealing with just Epstein. So there they are working on it. And he said from my contacts inside, I promise you, they're working on this, but this is their obstacle. They're just a damn much of it. And then they're taking everybody that didn't assign anything serious and putting them on this Epstein stuff because they gotta go in there. And then when they see these young minors, they gotta go back and trace that, take their name out, make sure everything that happened to document it, and it's a laborious job.
Yeah. So just tell you what, Sharpen. And he's a sharp guy. He's got his own podcast. He doesn't want to go back to the FBI, and he, got fired because he wouldn't take the jab. And but just a hell of a guy, and he was on he was on both of those for at least two hours or more yesterday. Super sharp guy. Wanted to mention it. Cool.
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Well, I'm waiting for Kash Patel to really get his ducks in a row and start filing complaints with the Department of Justice. And Okay. Well,
[01:29:51] Unknown:
here's what he said was the situation there. He likes both of them. And he said, traditionally, the, director does not really lead the the director's out doing appearances and this, that, and the other, and the person that's really running the show is the assistant director. Okay. But, usually, it's always been people who have been promoted up to those positions or that position because of their time in the in in agency, and they know all the all the tell tales and how to do stuff just right and what to do. There's a lot of pride and historical, stuff in the agency.
But this is the first time they've ever brought somebody in in that assister a system assistant position that doesn't have that FBI experience. And he said that really may cause some confusion till they get it straightened out or whatnot. But this is just these inside tips and views coming from a guy that was a special agent and, knows how everything works over there, and he still got connections, and he's laying all this stuff out. It would it's it's worth going back and listening to some of it, actually. But you probably find it cut down where where he lets Sarafin talk mostly.
But, anyway, it was very entertaining yesterday. I was thrilled to watch it. A great insight. Waiting.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
That that doesn't normally get. You're waiting. That doesn't withstand the fact that, and and, you know, we're still only into, you know, March. Right? So we would got three months of of people getting settled into their offices to to start, you know, working, basically. But Yeah. You know, I'm kinda like holding my breath and seeing, you know, well, look at Comey. They asked Comey to decide whether they wanted to to, press charges against, Hillary. You know? And he said no. So the the director can do whatever they want. Oh, goodness. And if they wanna if they wanna go to the Department of Justice with Bondi and file a complaint with supporting affidavits and supporting evidence enough to the point where she can go get a grand jury to send down an indictment and have that person, have the indictment go before a judge and the judge signs a warrant, you go arrest that person and start your case, I think that could be done right now.
But again, there is a procedure that they gotta do to to go to the Department of Justice and file their criminal complaint.
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I I have no doubt, and I think sheriff voiced an echo that that is on on on on ongoing right now. Right. So Right. Anyway, it but it may take a little while because we have got the extra duty, if you will, to do it correctly. The the the the commies could get away with not doing it correctly like they have been for the last four years, but we don't get that grace period.
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Yep. Well Roger?
[01:33:07] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Who's that? You you brought up,
[01:33:11] Unknown:
mister Epstein. I saw a great meme, and it had his face on it. And it said, raping young American girls to bribe American politicians. And I thought that was just a quick, great understanding of the compromise that Israel has completed over The US political establishment. I don't know if you remember during, nine eleven, but, I forget the reporter of Fox News, but they went into how Israel compromised the telephone, system through Amdocs, where they knew exactly. And now we have mister Goldberg being let in on signal, app here that's they're trying to blow up and put in, the doges and Trump's face and the executive cabinet.
And I just find it quite a, charade and, a setup, basically.
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Well, I thought the little guy that's accredited would let him into that group, and it's a Jewish name. I can't remember which one he is. That guy well, right there, I'd, would I'd be researching him. Right. But, yeah, somebody let good that Goldberg guy in. But now, in all honesty, there were no classified documents in that session that he was included in. So Right.
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Right. I understood that. But if if you try to blow it up
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and make a trade out of it. Well, of course they are. They're gonna do that with anything they can. That's who they are. Beautiful. Well, that's who they are. They're just yes. They're just schlemills. Yes, sir. Is that Samuel?
[01:35:08] Unknown:
Yeah. You know that, that expatriation act that they passed just before the fourteenth amendment the day before? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That turned into more legislation in nineteen o seven. That was repealed in 1920. And then in 1940, they passed the Nationality Act of 1940. And in the summary here, I'm looking at it. And, here, let me just read you a first sentence here. Summary of provisions. Title one. Definitions and general provision definitions. The act defines key terms used throughout this document, such as United States, citizen, and national.
And it goes on, and this goes on for quite a while.
[01:35:56] Unknown:
Yeah. You know what? When I've seen that ever, I've never looked past the first couple of definitions. I've never read a word of it. I didn't have to. Go ahead.
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And why is that?
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Because when they said a national owes total allegiance to a small s state, I knew exactly what it was saying. That that national was a state citizen.
[01:36:22] Unknown:
This gives you a historical contact and impact. It gives you, notable revisions of the case. It talks about, people that are born here, people who aren't born here. It's all about the legislation that you're gonna talk about right now, basically.
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Okay.
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Well, you know, if you dive into that, that's your deal. I want I want you to. You know? And, yeah, it's very topical. And it's a wonderful word with some of the few people that really understand this thing. Those thing, folks, even mister Eastman, thinks he does, but he really doesn't understand it totally. And it's totally and accomplished as he is.
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Title one talked about the citizen and the national. And then title two, it's it's nationality at birth, citizenship by birth, defines who is eligible for citizenship through birth, including those born in the Continental US, its territories, and abroad. I mean, it it's pretty detailed the way it looks. And this has probably been revised. I'm not real sure about that, but but it's been tweaked. It's not been, like, repealed like the nineteen o seven and the 1920 version of the expatriation act.
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Yes. It was. It was, it was a very little slick slide of hand here right at the start of World War two, just like they ran through the United Nations when World War two was happening. They used those distractions for these really important deal, and they either put the hook at the front or the back. Either as I as, by operational law, that's the one at the tail. And whatever it is, they're always putting the hook at the front. Here's a perfect example. Nationality Act of 1940. Before they ever even say a word at the act, there's about seven or eight definitions there. Definition a, a nationalist total allegiance to a smallest state.
Right there at the very first is the hook. K? Look, we're talking this morning about 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a right at the start of the code of federal regulations. On the first page at the top right, that's pretty close to the start. You can go over you can just go through these example after example, and the hook's always right at the front. So, obviously, their thinking is that we're gonna put it here because they'll never be looking for it there when they're sitting there with a book that's two, three hundred pages long, gobbledygook, and they think the answer's there.
So they're not gonna be paying attention at all right at the first. All persons born or naturalized. All persons born. Boom. There it is. Right at the first. The hook's almost always at the first. If it's not there, it's at the last. FYI, if, corruption hunters, this is their MO, flashing lights. This is how they do thing, and they do it over and over and over again. Why? Because it's always worked. So they're gonna use it because they're dictated to use it that way because it's always worked. They're predictable. This is an Achilles heel.
Yeah.
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Good stuff. Good stuff.
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I don't know anybody else that's ever observed that, Mark. So, and that, I guess, is part of, you know, what does the good lord say? Above all, seek understanding. Not knowledge, but the knowledge is what gives you the understanding. And and I swear over all these years, the more you pack that brain with stuff is when it starts delivering you answers. All these things I've talked to you about here are just things ideas that just came to me because I had the underlying knowledge. So that's where you gotta learn. You gotta learn it. Your your freedom is directly correlated to how, how much of that you've achieved, getting to the understanding where you can, without even blinking, Michael, defend your position with the IRS.
You know, you might have to think about it a little bit, but there's no hesitation. There's no qualms. You've overcome all that. They've been exposed. And now you've changed, but it's because you had the information that gave you the understanding that allowed you to become empowered, which is what we're striving for all of us.
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Unfortunately I'm telling you, I
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Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:41:26] Unknown:
I'm just saying, unfortunately, most of this is just done through letters. You know, so it's not like you're on the spot, have to make a response unless you're, you know, potentially in court. And again, we want to avoid court. But most all of this is just done administratively through letters.
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Yep. It's nonthreatening. Non confrontational.
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And it's not like you they only give you three days to respond. They usually give you at least two weeks, but more likely, it's gonna be thirty days. Yeah. So you have time to research, reach out to people like myself and others to to get some help. Cool. And, Michael, I I do hope you'll reach out to me about that that payment agreement that you entered into because I may have a way around that. Dan. Dan. It was Dan. Oh, was it Dan in Minnesota?
[01:42:20] Unknown:
No. Dan. That was Michael, but it was Dan that had the the pre agreement. He's up in Massachusetts.
[01:42:27] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Dan. Yeah. Dan, if you had that pre agreement with the IRS to to make payments, please I got a please contact him.
[01:42:35] Unknown:
I got a question for Dan. Dan, did you go watch any of brother Kapner yet? Dan, are you still there? I hope you are. Well, I'm dying to see what he thinks about brother Kapner, so I'll keep bugging him about it. And we got a few minutes left here, about eighteen, seventeen, something. Is there anybody else out there that needs servicing?
[01:43:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I still have another question, miss Michael. Great. Well, great, Michael. Come on. Let's see. I've been listening. I I listen to you all day every day, all morning, every day, Roger. Oh, great. Well, thank you. Every morning. Hey. I love you. The dip what is the difference?
[01:43:17] Unknown:
And let me tell you, Michael, what a joy it is to meet somebody who's been lurking that long and is finally ready to come back. I am lurking. Kind of establish a little bit of a relationship, and it's great. So go ahead.
[01:43:31] Unknown:
Okay. What is the difference between, I send an ROE and I understand the, getting three years back taxes. Right? That's what that's what we're all after. Again, those three years back. Right. I understand that. What have you been paying? But what is the what is the difference between, did you just notice IRS with our notice in the affidavit. Right? And then that ROE, what's what are what is the two difference? What is the difference? Other than the three trying to get the three year? I know one takes you got I know the ROE takes the three year, it allows you to get those three years back. I don't forget about that.
What's in each what's in that document that is stronger or, I don't understand it.
[01:44:21] Unknown:
You mean the the affidavit sent to the IRS?
[01:44:25] Unknown:
No. I don't understand the ROE. Alright. Revocation What makes that ROE so powerful?
[01:44:31] Unknown:
There's a couple of sections in the, regulations there, and I do not remember which ones they are that go over that if you change status, you can go back three years. You can apply and go back and pay and receive back three years that you paid in under the other status. So that's what John and Glenn founded all of this on because it was built into a they had it built into a company where, they charge you $1,500 to go through that weekend seminar, which, boy, back in '92 was a lot of money, and I didn't have it. But I was so hungry for the information that I was going to be deceitful and go through the weekend seminar and ask them for my money back because they said there was no questions asked.
And after that weekend seminar, I couldn't even think about that, Michael, without feeling so guilty. And so I I didn't do it. I didn't ask for my money back. And then we filled out all the paperwork and stuff at the end of that weekend. It was probably about seven, 08:00 on Sunday night after two full days of all this high power legal stuff you never been exposed to. And that sending in that was the revocation of election. Remember that we didn't know anything about the affidavit and the secretary of state back then. If we would've and, honestly, if John wouldn't have been so focused on the tax issue, he they may have figured this out themselves, what I figured out, the jurisdictional issue.
But if they would have figured it out back then, we we might live in a different world today. That's how powerful that is. Okay?
[01:46:25] Unknown:
So are you saying essentially essentially when I when all of us sit or I don't know if all of us have done it, but when when I noticed the IRS commissioner and the other IRS agent, I I did it twice to the Minnesota state, IRS commissioner, and then there was some I I can't I don't have it in front of me. I did it three times. Are you saying that is very that's like an ROE?
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Well, you could call it that.
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You know, you could call it that. I'm severing the ties. Oh, alright. Let let's go back here. You you've really always volunteered into being a citizen of The United States, haven't you? So you've elected even though you didn't understand that you've elected to do that. So, technically, you could call the severance with the IRS on the first round a revocation of election, but we didn't know about it back then. When they were laying this process out, they didn't know about this affidavit and stuff. That's what I'm saying. If John Glenn would have known that, we may live in a different country right now. That's how powerful that was. And that's what allowed the IRS to slam the door on them and because we were only filing the affidavits in the property records office of where we lived or where we were born.
Well, that isn't it. You gotta file it with the secretary of state. We didn't know that. So that's why they slammed the door on us and started doing all those, what were back then, $500 frivolous filing penalties. It's the only club they got left in their bag. Capiche?
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Mhmm.
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So they called the filing for the three past years revocation of election. So that's how I think of it and I see. And label it. It may it it but but we didn't know about the affidavit back then. See? But you could consider the affidavit a revocation of election, technically, couldn't you?
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Yes.
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Okay. So that's where I think some of the confusion's coming from here.
[01:48:42] Unknown:
Thanks, Roger.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
Yeah. But, Michael, go ahead. Try and get this in as quickly as you can. And I'd say get that request for an ROE in it that you may get it. You may not. Depends now on not necessarily whether they wanna send it to you or not, if on whether they're around or not. A lot of people certainly say and including the world be a lot nicer place without those bastards in it.
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That's for sure.
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Okay, Roger. I've seen people commit suicide. I've seen them murder people. I've seen divorces, bankruptcies, families being broken up, and and all the results of these bastards right here. Okay, Michael. Any other stuff you wanna jaw about?
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No?
[01:49:41] Unknown:
Well, I I I'm on the spot. I for I forgot what I was gonna ask. It takes me a moment.
[01:49:47] Unknown:
Okay. Well, can I ask you what kind of would it be too much of an intrusion to ask what business you are in as a young farmer?
[01:49:55] Unknown:
Livestock and grain farmer. Livestock and grain farmer. So the the gross income is high, but when you take all the expenses to farm, farmer gets low at net. So when I gotta put my gross income on that OI as exempt, it's it's quite a bit. But when you factor all the expenses and inputs,
[01:50:19] Unknown:
farmer don't make much. Yeah. Well, are you gonna be better off not paying taxes without losing the write offs and everything? Absolutely. That little that little,
[01:50:29] Unknown:
that the little net income I make, and then you take away by having to pay taxes, boy, that really helps the living. Well,
[01:50:37] Unknown:
glory to God for Michael. I think we've improved his lifestyle.
[01:50:43] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, and the other aspect is what gets my brain thing is I don't have to go buy a tractor to try and lower my income tax. I could instead of buying a tractor I don't need, I can spend it on, living expenses or Yep. Some of the farmers out there, they they they they buy equipment, they buy stuff just to play the Uncle Sam game, Yeah. And then they got very little they are low end.
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Does that make sense? Yes. Yeah. Because they own the damn tractor factory.
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Well
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Two. So anyway well, hey, man. Say a prayer. Be gratitude. You're out of it. And I know you're still got some nervousness about it. But That's so very oh, yeah. Mhmm. Well, just, you know, try not to be and try and fill that that nervousness with facts
[01:51:39] Unknown:
Yeah. And underpin your position. Okay? And you can look at other people's experiences that have been here. I don't know of anybody who filled out their forms properly that got any blowback from the IRS. They got refunds for that current tax year. Yep. So, now, so far, I've yet to talk to anybody who's able to go back to three years and get refunds. Not saying it hasn't happened, I'm not saying it can't happen, I just have not had anybody confirm that they were successful in that department.
[01:52:15] Unknown:
So, but And that we're not success did you say we're not successful?
[01:52:19] Unknown:
That's correct. Hey Mark? Correct. Hold on, hold on. I'm just saying that that I don't know of anybody who's been successful. Okay? I'm not saying they're not out there, but if you don't at least file an amended tax return asking for those last three years to be refunded to you, then you're certainly not gonna get it. So, you know, you got three years from the filing date of that tax year to request a refund through an amended return.
[01:52:52] Unknown:
Ten forty x. So your students that has used your ROE and that you've helped, that you have not seen any of them get a refund yet because it's No. They're too fresh. They're too fresh as students. No. No. It has nothing to do with freshness. It has to do with
[01:53:09] Unknown:
with are they able to get a refund for the previous three years. Now they've got refunds where they haven't filed a 10 a regular ten forty, like in the position you are. So so last year, you have twenty twenty four taxes you have not filed a tax return on, and you're filing a fresh ten forty n r for the first time for 2024. We've seen people in that type of situation get their refund. But where they've already filed a standard ten forty and then attempted to amend that and file a ten forty n r in place of that standard ten forty, I have not seen anybody get a refund
[01:53:57] Unknown:
for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're not they're not looking at that 10 they're not accepting that $10.40 x to They're not saying anything. They're not saying anything. Limbo. They'll They're just completely silent.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Yeah. We've got I know Dave in Alabama has has put in for a refund like that. And initially, they just said we need another sixty days, and I think they just gone silent.
[01:54:25] Unknown:
So I can give you an update on that, Mark.
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Alright. Dave. Hey, Dave.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Hey. How you doing? Yeah. So, yeah, I've I've got my full withholdings back for 2023 where I hadn't filed any kind of ten forty prior to that. It was just my, w two and a ten forty n r. Right. Twenty one and '22, I had filed, the x along with the NR and the, previous return. Right. And they bounced it back to me and said, hey. You used the wrong form. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I looked, and I had used the 2023 in our form for 2122, and you gotta remember you gotta remember that each one Yes. Each year has its own form. Well, duh.
And just an amateur, error. So I retracted that. I wrote them back, and I I retracted those. And so I'm still able to resubmit for 2122, and I would assume that that would be successful. I'm kinda pondering whether I want to because 2023 was a nice paycheck. And, anyway, so that's where I'm at with that. And, I just wanted to, give kudos to Mark, by the way, before he the show ends of his him helping so many folks with the IRS piece of this because there's not too many voices who understand this down to the detail he does. And just from my end, I spoke to, like when I was digging into the IRS, I spoke to, like, four or five CPAs, and you can't count on the CPAs. And in their defense, they may know what a nonresident alien is, but they don't they don't know how to connect it to the national status because they don't know what the national is.
Right. So so you're kinda you're kinda barking up a tree there. In fact, when I brought up, hey. I'm a nonresident alien to a CPA, they said, well, you were born in this country. I said, yes. Well, you're a citizen. I said, well, no. Look. You're this have and they just, you know, with their eyes crossed, they didn't know what the heck I was talking about. In fact, and if I may, I did find a CPU who specifically helps nonresident aliens, believe it or not, but it was kinda I would call it the traditional nonresident alien that is under a treaty. They come from another country and under a treaty. Well, that's different than what we are.
In fact, on my forms, I put non not applicable in the treaty section. So but I anyway, I just wanted to make you aware that you trust you have trust and faith in your CPA, but they just don't know this stuff. So that's why Mark's input and his knowledge is so great, with this stuff. And just one more item too. Whenever I have correspondence with the IRS and they send me something, I package up my previous documents with a little cover sheet with each one saying what it is, meaning my affidavit, and that's to Roger's point earlier. I sent them another copy of my affidavit, with its cover letter that I sent to them previous along with the certified mail showing that copy of that and my ROE. So they can't say they didn't get it or they don't have it because they're gonna get it every dang time.
[01:57:49] Unknown:
So but that's all I have. Sorry for taking up so much time. Thanks. Really good points, and I think Julie tried to chime in there. I wanna get back to her. But on thank you, Dave. One thing I really appreciate about Dave on his website, and this is what I I harp on quite a bit, is I wanna put my documents on a silver platter so that whoever receives them at the IRS has everything they need to review my doc or review my documents and and not have to dig up a a computer database to find out what's in it. So and and Dave even goes to the extent he provides his proof, his certified, mail proof that that was delivered and then the document that he wants them to to show, right, or that he wants to show them. So it's very logically laid out and, you know, the cover letter, everything that's referenced, he's got that laid out and, and that's what I preach is because don't count on a government's, what do you call them, lackey.
Don't count on a government lackey to to go to the trouble to look up the stuff that they that they should look up. Give it to them on a silver platter. Yeah. I don't agree. Exhibits to to prove what you put in your letter. If you're if you're saying you're a national, say see exhibit a. Now here's a copy of my affidavit of citizenship evidence. So give it to them as subtle platter. So I guess when we get through the end of the show, we'll we'll go back. I think it was Julie that was trying to chime in. Catch miss Julie. So hang on, Julie. And,
[01:59:31] Unknown:
yeah. Well, that's the whistlers in the background. That means that we signify the end of another one of our two hour sessions together. I wanna thank Michael for after all these years stepping forward and getting vocal and that we we we love meeting, especially a farmer, and and out there trying to increase his lifestyle. Michael, welcome. We're glad to speak with you and have you, buddy. And I bet there's a lot of other folks out there that probably are in the same position, been listening for a while, didn't believe it, and they just hang back there and listen.
It's real. We're real, their faults, and we expose their fraud on how they got this power. Mhmm. And we take it back, and then we empower ourselves like we were meant to be from the good Lord. And they had this little blanket thrown over us at birth and stole the birthright back that they gave away so willingly for a bowl of porridge. We're getting it back, folks. Thank you. I'm glad you're, on board, and, I hope you're becoming empowered. It's quite a transition. And, I've undergone it, and I've seen a bunch of you undergo it right here on this show. So thank you. Glad to be able to offer this to you. We're a tight little band, and we got some real good folks and some real powerful mojo.
So we're gonna lay our body bound, be back tomorrow on the Thursday edition. See you. Bye. We'll let mister Beaner do his magic there. Now we're still being recorded, of course, I believe, on his channel that records all the after shows. Julie, you still with us, I hope, sweetie. Right?
[02:01:22] Unknown:
Yes. I am. Thank you.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Do you have a query for us?
[02:01:30] Unknown:
I I have a question just because I've just been reading and researching a lot. And I was, I know you're probably not gonna want to like this conversation too much,
[02:01:41] Unknown:
but I have to bring you I'll just I'll just leave.
[02:01:44] Unknown:
No. Don't. Please stay here. Please stay here, Roger. So there's a there's a IRS form 56 that notifies the IRS of the creation of a fiduciary relationship. My understanding is that this form is optional. And it it it says, I didn't know, Mark, if you you had ever tackled this because it says note that if the notice of fiduciary relationship is not sent to the IRS, the IRS will simply continue sending its notices, demands, and assessments to the quote last known address of the taxpayer and depend on the taxpayer to forward the IRS's paperwork to the fiduciary.
And, this is basically stating that, by sending the IRS a Form 56, identifies the natural person, your lowercase name, as the fiduciary for the taxpayer, the upper capital's name, complete with a brand new address. And it says our fiduciary hypothesis would be supported if the IRS stopped addressing its correspondence to the all caps names and instead addressed it to the lower caps names. And it goes into your definition here of a person. You know, it specifically says, it's exactly as you've described it to us. It says note that you can be a fiduciary for any and it has quote person. And it says the meaning of a person includes artificial entities like trusts, corporations, etc.
So, it says on here that it's possible for a natural person, your lowercase name to be all, you know, only one letter capitalized to assume a fiduciary relationship to an artificial entity named your all caps name. So, named your all caps name. So, so they're talking on here That's Patriot Mythology. Wherever you got the source of that
[02:03:39] Unknown:
is Patriot stuff, and it does not apply to a national. That's people that are still trying to dance around with the IRS and The United States not knowing what a national is. So they're looking for every way out to separate themselves. They're using their all cap name and their lower case name and thinking that some type of relationship, but it's not. It's not.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
Is the straw man having a seizure over in the corner?
[02:04:10] Unknown:
Well, he's dancing around because he's really stalking his. My straw man loves this kind of stuff. Julie's being detrimental to the straw man's health. Yeah. He said now now to make it complete, when you find it, you need to put a 2¢ stamp on it and and your thumbprint in red ink and then sign across the stamp and then make sure in the upper right hand corner that that you have a picture of The US flag with gold fringe on it.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
That that completes it. And and no. No. It's not complete until there's an owl sitting on the flag.
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:04:55] Unknown:
Okay. I'm sorry. I
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I got off the rack here. It doesn't apply. It could have been Does not apply at all. That is that is patriot mythology looking for ways to separate you from the IRS. Right? So this doesn't apply to a national, that's that's way off in the weeds and unfortunately, we got we got patriots out there, p a y triots, p a y triads that are, you know, asking for money for this kind of information. And this is what I love about Rogers' information. It's so simple. It is so liberating. It's so empowering. And you are free once you wrap your mind around how simple this is. Yep. You can do away with almost all of that Patriot baloney
[02:05:45] Unknown:
because that's what it is. And switch. It's basically a bait and switch.
[02:05:50] Unknown:
You're welcome, Julie. Everybody's looking for another solution outside of what Roger's given them, and you don't have to do it. You don't have to do it. It's not necessary. And it's not just for you, Julie. I'm just the listening audience in general. It just amazes me how many people hear Roger's message, and they're still looking for some other magic bullet. Roger's given it to you. Affidavit of citizenship evidence is your ace. Literally, affidavit of citizenship evidence is the acronym for ace. And Right? Don't what? Yes. It is.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
Your sleeve, and almost nobody else understands it. That's good, Mark. I hadn't thought of that before. Mhmm. Yeah, man. I mean, I kept trying to hammer it on rinse. I hammer it into y'all all the time. Michael, who what who you are, what set of laws you live under is your choice, not theirs. If they say, Michael, you gotta live under these sets of laws here, they're open tyrants, and they'll never be that. They'll always have plausible deniability or some set of these nebulous regulations behind them, tricking you and backing them up. Well, they don't have that anymore. They've been stripped of that.
[02:07:06] Unknown:
Yep. Roger, you know what really tends to seem to back them down really quick is when we respond yes. Exactly. Exactly. If you're telling me I have no other choice but to be a US citizen, then you're in violation of the thirteenth amendment against slavery.
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Now get this from Jones. I put in parentheses,
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involuntary servitude.
[02:07:32] Unknown:
You know, they were trying to take, say, they own Jones's name out of these court things. And they can and he came back and tried to use that defense, and they came back and said Jones didn't have access to the thirteenth amendment. How about that? There's your answer, Alex. There's your answer. It's right in front of you. You didn't see it.
[02:07:56] Unknown:
You know, we need to get about, I don't know, about 10 copies of your book and send it down there and then have, some letters with, QR codes where they go find some of your interviews. Just click with their phone and boom, go see your interview and see what, see what happens or go down there personally and deliver them. You know? But here's the other thing, Ron. I was trying to buy another copy of your book, and I can't find it available on the book pack. Well, it's not. It's not available. Well, let's get it with somebody else, man. It's not hard. Yeah. Well, I did. I keep
[02:08:30] Unknown:
I I understand. I I had an account with an Amazon just, same day at one time. I can't remember the name of them. But, but people keep saying how they get keep getting screwed with Amazon. I don't care necessarily about the money. I probably need to do that. Here's part of the other problem. Sketch, you, Mike, can help with this, is I don't think I've got the file with the cover in it. I might can go back and look, but I've changed through gone through a couple of hard drives, and it's on there somewhere, but I'm not sure I can find it. But if not, I need to get a new cover for it. I've got the Yeah. Roger was
[02:09:11] Unknown:
It was years ago, I I converted a, I believe it was a Word document that an author out of Texas had put together a book on I don't know if it was recipes, it was kind of like keto recipes, but I put it all together and they never used it but I had it in Kindle format too. So and it was linkable. So they got the Kindle version, they could click on a link and it'd take them to that page. So it's, you know, it can be done and I don't think, since it's electronic, I don't think they charge you a monthly fee to have your books available print on demand or digital through Kindle on their website. It's only when you have a physical product that they got a warehouse is when you start paying a monthly fee.
And then we could and and then also because you've already got it published, you've already got the, ISBN number, you could we could find other print on demand services.
[02:10:17] Unknown:
So Okay. Well, I know I had it with one and, you know, I I I the the this whole project, all I've had is people lie to me and steal from me that were working with me. And the people that set up the girl that did the cover on the thing originally and her boyfriend was, I thought, an old friend of mine. And, they ended up putting it on print by demand over on this Amazon site. And somebody said, well, I got I ordered one, and I got it back, and it wasn't from the book patch. And so we traced that back. I just contacted them, said these people are stealing my work. And Right. It got yeah. Yes, Julie. Anyway, it's been nothing but problems with this thing, and I will not if unless I absolutely have to, go back to the book patch because I will not work with a company that's got that big a piece of crap as the head guy ever ever. I just don't wanna work with them. K? I'd rather have it better than
[02:11:15] Unknown:
yes, George. Roger, remember I'm the one that tracked them back for you back to Arizona. I do. Address. And let me tell you something. They're using print on demand right now. It took almost three weeks for me to get two two two books I ordered, from that site. That's not somebody who has their books in stock. They're using an external print on demand. I published my own book a long time ago. There's so many online places that will do that print on demand way faster than what Book Patch did that we can find for you, and then we can put your book on the main site, the matrix doc. Well, they somebody else found the Book Patch. I didn't know the background of it. I was
[02:11:58] Unknown:
all in it because it was Victor Strovsky, a guy that used to be a Mossad officer. He's a Canadian Jew. He wrote a couple of books against the Mossad. They marginalized him, and that's why he started this. But now his wife has passed. Hold on. His wife has passed. He's in dementia. His daughter is overseeing the company, and this idiot named Steven is running it, doing quote, unquote, customer service. Well, this this guy is just bad news. I've never dealt with anybody as bad at communications or attitude as this guy. They got some other computer problems too, but they've stolen, I don't know how many royal royalties they've stolen from us. I can't get an audit. I can't find out. It's just a nightmare.
K? So when something like that happens to me, what my when something like that happens to me, my general tendency is to just turn my back on it and ignore it. Then that's where I am with this right now. So it should be possible. You you got a team. We we could take care of it. Okay. And so I can't have any of that shit. Okay? There's nothing to any involved with getting this thing up online that I that I'm capable of handling. And I'll tell you right out front. K? So somebody's trying to say something for a couple of minutes. Who is the guy?
[02:13:18] Unknown:
Well, you that I I thought I heard my name,
[02:13:23] Unknown:
involved with the book, and you might be mistaken. I didn't have anything about the book. I thought I thought I heard my name. No. No. You did. I was thinking because you're an artist that you might know something about getting a replacement cover done. That was my fault.
[02:13:38] Unknown:
I gotcha. Well, I I I'd be honored to do a a a, cover for that. But I just wanted to mention to to Michael that, we love hearing you, and we love farmers. And I do hope you're a lunatic farmer just like Joel Skalson.
[02:13:58] Unknown:
There you go. Somebody's Skype drinking.
[02:14:05] Unknown:
Hey.
[02:14:10] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure it's not me.
[02:14:12] Unknown:
Hey.
[02:14:15] Unknown:
Alright. There we go. We won't be here in a month in a few days. Yes, sir.
[02:14:23] Unknown:
Yeah. A little while ago, Mark said, he has not heard of anyone getting there three years back. And I was wondering if you could take a minute to remind the audience, including Michael and any other lurkers, that there is one man. His name is John Garland. If you could just go over that story, like, really quick.
[02:14:43] Unknown:
Well, John, they heard us talking about it one day. Here's what happened. I'd forgotten all about all that stuff. It came up one day. And while we were talking about it on the air is when the idea hit me, I said, well, hell. This is the key to the whole thing. We've got now with the affidavit to the secretary of state. That's why they came down on John and Glenn and shut everything down because we didn't have that bit of knowledge. We got it now. And so I was just talking about it, and John, who's a very sharp guy, took it on his own, did all the research, and submitted and got three years back of big numbers. Okay? I'm not at liberty to tell you how much, but I'm telling you, it's big numbers.
And, so that's what happened. He came and told us about it. And so that's what restarted all this. Okay? Is that short enough? And and then because he inherited a farm and his uncle, he had to go assume his uncle's line of credit, and he couldn't get a banker that had worked with him unless he had three years tax returns. So he had to take that sizable amount of cash and go back and give it back to the IRS
[02:15:57] Unknown:
to get the line of credit. I think it's baloney.
[02:16:00] Unknown:
I don't think So how can the IRS take all that money back when you do an ROE?
[02:16:05] Unknown:
Well, they'll take any money you're gonna give them, buddy.
[02:16:08] Unknown:
You can voluntarily pay them if you want. Yes. You can. We'll have a donation form. You can donate any amount of money you want to the IRS.
[02:16:17] Unknown:
Yep. So, anyway, that's the story that Larry was asking me to get across. Well, that's the only man. That's the Well, hold. Let me tell you. There there's a little bit more to that. What his job was was that he maintained the security cyber shield over the secretary of state website where all the foreign embassies checked in and did business every day. And then when he filed his affidavit, he told them this. It was through a subcontractor. And, basically, it they they one day, he went in to, chime in his credentials. Didn't work anymore. They won't tell him why.
[02:17:06] Unknown:
Yep. I know why. He's an asshole. Who was it? It was a nonresident. Linda? Linda? Lady Linda.
[02:17:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Please.
[02:17:16] Unknown:
As I was thinking of, Trump, hopefully, eviscerating the IRS, how is, folks going to how are folks going to get loans if the requirement is tax forms for the last three years, if that indeed becomes a moot subject.
[02:17:35] Unknown:
Well, they that's with a traditional underwriter, and, I'd say go. You can find other sources of money if that's the case. Well, hold on. Why do you think they want your tax returns?
[02:17:48] Unknown:
Why do you think they want your tax returns? Generally, they wanna know that you're filing tax returns and the IRS isn't gonna come back and put a lien on your house that they can't clear or don't wanna clear, which would be money out of their pocket if you can't pay it. The other one is possibly proof of income which you could go to your bank and show deposits for a year, past three years and show your proof of income. You can get a home loan without tax returns. There are mortgage companies, mortgage brokers that will, do a document loan, like I said, with proof from your bank of what you deposit on an annual basis.
So, you know, if if a bank's gonna turn you down and, you know, for not having three years tax returns and you don't have a filing requirement. I say, look, I don't have a filing requirement. And if they're still demanding or they're not gonna give me a loan without, you know, three years tax returns, I'm looking for another lender. And go to a mortgage broker. Mortgage brokers are phenomenal resources to help you find a mortgage company that will fit your needs.
[02:19:08] Unknown:
Correct. Correct. I agree with you, Mark. It's just that John Garland who's very clever, he had to reimburse the IRS in order to get his three years of tax return.
[02:19:21] Unknown:
With that. Hold it. You're missing something. He wasn't looking for a loan. He was looking for lines of credit.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Yeah. But but even then but even then, I don't understand why didn't he just shows ten forty n r.
[02:19:39] Unknown:
You listen. I don't know.
[02:19:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Me neither. I'm sure we we could talk with him. It's a huge farm,
[02:19:47] Unknown:
and and he, I guess, that dwarfed anything we're talking about here, and he just went and gave full attention to the operation.
[02:19:56] Unknown:
By the way, Roger, real just real quick. I've had people that were farmers that have asked about, would they still qualify for certain subsidies and grants? And surprisingly, nonresident aliens qualify for a lot of the grants that the The US Farmers qualify for. So I was really kinda surprised in seeing that because I was expecting the opposite. So are you Uh-huh. Interesting.
[02:20:24] Unknown:
Dave?
[02:20:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi. Paul? Hi. I I know, one of one of my close friends works for a farmer, and everything is line of credit. They don't take out loans. Yeah. They have operating, you know, whatever they call it, but it's all a line of credit. And Yep. Just like, Michael was saying, you know, you gotta buy these guys have to buy new equipment almost every year, and the the equipment's like a million dollars. The equipment's like a million dollars for a tractor. Right? These guys are they got no money, but they got tons of cash to buy stuff, and they got all kinds of toys and and whatnot. Maybe not all farmers, but they got very little, to operate with, you know, because they gotta keep paying back that line of credit with what they make of farming. So it it's a pain.
[02:21:18] Unknown:
There's probably a way around it, but, you know, I don't know what it is. Well, that's a continuous continuous backing of the bank is what a line of credit is Yes. Regardless of circumstances for the most part, and loans are different things. So that may be the difference, lady. And I think it's an important difference in the question and the situation we were discussing. Now, Paul.
[02:21:45] Unknown:
I think it has to something to do with the, promissory note and, them being able to monetize it, sell it to the Federal Reserve just like they do with the birth certificate bonds and all that stuff. I'm thinking that no bank wants to go on the hook for a million dollars to back the guy if they can't run off to the Federal Reserve and
[02:22:09] Unknown:
buy it back. No. I I don't have any idea on how they handle that internally. I just think there's a big difference between a loan and a line of credit. K? I don't think banks loan any of their own money. Well, they don't have money at all. They have you sign a promissory note. They don't loan
[02:22:26] Unknown:
them. And the sticking point is why why do they need three years tax returns? See? So think about this. If they if they do away with the Internal Revenue Service and individuals no longer have to file a tax return Yeah. It'll be a lot of money. They're gonna stop giving out loans? No. They're not gonna stop it. All they're wanting is is to proof of income and know that there's not gonna be a tax lien on your on your house if they loan you money.
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And they wanna keep everybody locked into the system.
[02:22:57] Unknown:
Yeah. And by the way, this AI is regulation. Yeah. This AI is taking over the whole credit system, and they're gonna be able to line up things very quickly, and the computer will determine whether you're a good credit risk or not. Yeah. Well, guess what? The guy they were talking about putting AI over the DC Judges who are replacing the judges with AI.
[02:23:22] Unknown:
Okay. There were several people trying to say something. Larry was one It's Larry and Roger. Roger, I've been trying to get in for a while. Okay. Go ahead, Samuel.
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I just sort of wanted to go back to nationality, and, you know, they they they they they hooked the national to allegiance, yet they don't define allegiance. But if you read the allegiance oath to, let's say, become a citizen, man, that thing sounds like servitude,
[02:23:59] Unknown:
feudal servitude. That's what it sounds like. Well, that's what it is. I I guess it sounds like it because that's what it is. Samuel Larry?
[02:24:07] Unknown:
Yeah. About a week ago, I found, this on a, an actual mortgage broker's website, and it's it's titled Options for Mortgage Loan Without Tax Returns. And there's just there's several options. There's there's bank statement loans. There's profit and loss statement loans. Yep. There's DSCR, which stands for debt service coverage ratio loans. There's asset based mortgages. And finally, there's what's known as a ten ninety nine loan. So there's always options out there.
[02:24:43] Unknown:
May I say something?
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Yes, please. Murder.
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I just wanted to say in in, John's case, the line of credit was he had to take the reins of his uncles, his deceased uncle's line of credit. It wasn't like he was going out and getting some other line of credit on his end. So that made a big difference. And, I guess he still hasn't sued Marshy Moshi Garfinkel for stealing his name. Right?
[02:25:13] Unknown:
I guess not. I don't.
[02:25:15] Unknown:
Alright. Okay. Thanks.
[02:25:18] Unknown:
Alright, Murr. How the chickens doing?
[02:25:21] Unknown:
Oh, I have no chickens. Everybody's died. So now I cater to the wild critters. I got a bunch of big bunnies living around here and birds and stuff. So
[02:25:32] Unknown:
Why don't you go buy you some chicken, some little chiclets?
[02:25:36] Unknown:
Nah. I don't I don't need anybody else. That's that's fine. That's that's over. And, you know, I don't even eat eggs. Right? So I lost my taste for it. Don't you? Okay. Well, that's too bad. Mhmm. No. Nature's fruit food will get there. Tomatoes and sandwiches. Thank you. I'm addicted to lettuce and tomato sandwiches.
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Alright.
[02:25:56] Unknown:
Alright. Well, thank you. Good to hear your voice, and we know you're out there working.
[02:26:01] Unknown:
Mark Anderson show at, the top of the hour on RBN. We're gonna gonna talk about this JFK stuff.
[02:26:09] Unknown:
Oh, Bruce.
[02:26:11] Unknown:
Hi, Bruce.
[02:26:12] Unknown:
Hey. I got an idea for you. Yeah? Do you know the people that have, blood type b?
[02:26:23] Unknown:
No. I don't, don't think so. Go ahead.
[02:26:27] Unknown:
Rabbit meat is their remedy. Oh. They can't eat other they cannot eat any other beef. Whatever it is, rabbit is the only thing they can eat and stay steady. They'll get pissed off at you in a second with with, you eating beef or whatever. Got it. Or whatever.
[02:26:47] Unknown:
That's usually Well, I know. I'm I'm I'm I'm b negative, and I don't I don't eat any rabbit. I have one time.
[02:26:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That's b negative. That's right. It was, what's her face In the the murders murders thing in the middle of the nineties there. Both the husband and wife had negative a b, which was interesting.
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So Boy, that's super rare.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But I don't I don't, you know, eat any of that stuff. But my big cat, when he was alive, my big 20 pound cat did try to share a bunny with me once. Yeah.
[02:27:24] Unknown:
Well, I'm just giving you what I got from a lady that had vitamin had b type blood, and she would get angry. And and she would actually actually go after her brother and beat the crap out of him. They couldn't pull her off because she just got to eating regular beef, you know, meat. Wow. She can whatever. I know. She got angry. It made her angry. Well, one thing we don't take into consideration
[02:27:46] Unknown:
is all the hormones in the animals and stuff too. And if you ever listen to Tom in Utah, the, No. No. The fact that animals is for higher temperature, and so that's that's why we get clogged arteries and stuff.
[02:28:01] Unknown:
Yeah. But no. That's that's not what she she was an iridologist. Mhmm. Yeah. You got me? She did not know about the vitamin I mean, the Viva, blood type had to eat, you know, whatever I was talking about. Anyway, so rabbit meat is what they had to give her to not go crazy after she ate the meat other meat.
[02:28:28] Unknown:
Well, that's that's good to know. You ever hear of, Marjorie Wildcraft? That's one of the things she she teaches is, keeping rabbits. And at the conferences, she would show how to how to butcher one.
[02:28:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure. It's good meat. It's very good meat. It's a delicacy down here.
[02:28:47] Unknown:
Yeah. It's tender. Yeah. Roger, I gotta go. I got lots of too.
[02:28:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you, Mark. Bye bye, guys. Thank you. Y'all enjoy the after show. Everybody go to the rest of the week. Yep. See you, Mark, on Saturday, bud. If we don't Alright. Thank you. See the rest of you, rascals,
[02:29:06] Unknown:
tomorrow. And, I think Hold up one second here. Robbie in the, Robbie in the chat says that rabbit meat is unclean according to the Bible. She's right. Well, it doesn't fit the Leviticus.
[02:29:19] Unknown:
True. Yep. But it's pretty damn tasty. So and easy to raise for people. You know, if you're looking for sustenance, self sustenance, you rabbits will raise themselves real quickly.
[02:29:32] Unknown:
A whole bunch of them. Yeah. They're they're breeders, buddy.
[02:29:36] Unknown:
Alright. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Ciao.
[02:29:38] Unknown:
Mark, Mark, before you leave, Mark, I hope you discussed the 3,000 j f j f k files that are did not get released.
[02:29:49] Unknown:
I'm not sure just what all Mark has about that, but, we're into this, he was he this was a plan. He wasn't killed. So, you know, but they're buffaloing people. And if you think about it, right, what did he say? And maybe it was a speech writer, but he said, I ask not what the country your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country, and he deserted his country. That was his retirement plan. That was all staged and everything. But, and yeah, Israel was in on it. But, this is also how God works, Ones that have sort of turned over the money changers tables, he's he has protected. We see that with Trump because in his first administration, he, had his energy efficient even exporting gas was down to a dollar 89 right at the pump, and he didn't start any new wars. And, I thought the butler thing was fake at first. I had to show the next day, but by the next week, I've learned more and I don't think it was fake.
But before that, back Andrew Jackson. Right? We know about the two pistols that didn't go off, but then when they examined them, they were fine and Jackson beat the guy with his cane. But, Michael Gaddy did some research and four other times there were attempted, Assassinations of him and what was his motto? I killed the banks. He wanted it on his tombstone and he did kill the banks Of course, they retaliated and regrouped and brought the so called civil war upon us because of that. But and then we have Adolf Hitler who, all the lies about him, but his first two laws were enacted were, no pornography and no interest.
Alright? And so they wrote off the debt and had no usury and that's why they're demonized to this day. But he also lived in South America until he died a natural death on 02/13/1962. So we have examples of this. And Christ actually turned over the money changers tables twice. John chapter two and Mark chapter 11. And you'll see right after he did the first miracle, turn in the water to wine in Canaan, He and his, mother and brethren went up to Jerusalem and, wow. Somebody got champagne? What's going on? That's No. I think somebody just,
[02:32:16] Unknown:
just shot a bunch of whipped cream on their, cappuccino.
[02:32:20] Unknown:
That's what it sounds like. Marco Rubio's listening?
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Does anybody know, the blood type of the because cazarians?
[02:32:29] Unknown:
Oh, I think it it varies, but I think there are a lot of, orange negative.
[02:32:34] Unknown:
Thank you, Mark.
[02:32:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'll let you guys go. Thank you. I I couldn't resist getting in there to say because the line of credit, we're not just talking about going out and getting a new one. He had to pick up the reins of his uncle's line of credit, so that made all the difference.
[02:32:51] Unknown:
And and, Murr, I'm gonna put in the chat here in a second about the, an article about the 3,000, files that didn't get released. I know you might question him, but I think he has good information.
[02:33:04] Unknown:
Mhmm. Well, like I said, and now, one thing we're gonna talk about that Mark wasn't aware of, we were on the phone and, Vanity Fair article that came out, November nineteenth of last year. And, they had a rehearsal, basically. They filmed Kennedy's death at Hammersmith Farm. Jackie liked to direct movie. And we gotta remember, neither of them lived moral lives. Alright? They both had many affairs. And Jack was bisexual, and so, therefore, he was, you know, rapid fireman, not much fun in bed, you know. But, yeah, there's a whole story there. But his boyfriend, Lynn Billings, even had a room in the White House. But, you know, that aside, there there was all this stuff going on, but this Vanity Fair thing is very interesting. It was in September of sixty three.
And, they basically did, like, a rehearsal and staged it. They had Heinz ketchup, even called it Heinz, you know, as the blood.
[02:34:07] Unknown:
Do do you do you know that Madeline Monroe was a man?
[02:34:13] Unknown:
Run that by me again.
[02:34:15] Unknown:
Do you know that Madeline Monroe was a man?
[02:34:20] Unknown:
I'm not sure what name you're saying there.
[02:34:22] Unknown:
Madeline Monroe. Madeline Monroe.
[02:34:26] Unknown:
Oh, Monroe. Oh, oh, I don't know about that. I hadn't hadn't figured that one out yet, but she was she was a foster child in many different homes, and she was apparently like MK Ultra kind of thing, you know, a sex kitten programming. And, and she was she was hotshot by, a Jewish doctor is, how she died. Yeah.
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She was abstained. Mhmm.
[02:34:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Alrighty, guys. I'm gonna go and pretend I know what I'm doing. Nice talking with you and hearing from y'all. Check the chat. K. Let me see what we got here.
[02:35:10] Unknown:
George Webb. Marilyn Monroe was Epstein. That means she's still alive? I yield.
[02:35:17] Unknown:
Remember, her real name is, Norma Jean Baker. Okay? I mean, there's a whole thing going on there. But, actually, a Freud descendant and this doctor, and I'm trying to think what his name, Greenspoon or something. I forget what it was. But, anyway, they were lurking to, take over her estate, and they did.
[02:35:40] Unknown:
Didn't Alton and John sing a song about her?
[02:35:44] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Candle on the wind.
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And then he rewrote it for Diana.
[02:35:55] Unknown:
Yep. Mhmm. And there were questions about what sex she was too. So, yeah, not bad at rumors.
[02:36:05] Unknown:
You never know with those royals.
[02:36:07] Unknown:
Man, I'll tell you. There's so many. And if you look at some of the wives of the presidents of this country going back through time, like, woah. Some blood shoulders on that one.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
That's pretty neat. I don't know what it's worth. Bush?
[02:36:22] Unknown:
Oh, I don't know. Probably. Who knows? I just and she was supposed to be Crowley Crowley's daughter. Right? Alastair Crowley.
[02:36:35] Unknown:
And so so was Betty White. They were sisters. What? Oh, really? Betty White. Barbara Bush and Betty White were sisters. Oh, wow. Apparently apparently, what I heard, I don't remember where from, but Betty White did the West Coast and Barbara Bush did the East Coast.
[02:36:58] Unknown:
That sounds about right. Because if you get down to the underlying bedrock there, it's a Luciferian brotherhood, and they do have, high priestesses that are in different quadrants. Read this stuff on Timothy Charles Holmeseth, but you can put about anything in that search engine about Jessie Sabota or in the affidavits she's written. She was scheduled and being raised to be the the head mother of darkness, the crone position, and apparently, they have not replaced her. So they'll be hurting. Their hierarchy will be hurting.
Yeah. Yeah. But it gets into mass quantities of sacrificing children and all kind of horrible stuff, and that's what keeps the usury system going, and that's how it has always been, you know, when they were kicked out over there out of Spain. Zarco, who went by Columbus, wasn't just for the money, it, you know, the mammon. It was sacrificing children. And, apparently, Christopher was the name of the last one. And, you know, so Christopher Columbus. But Christians in particular is what they like to do. And apparently, they do one a day, some way or other, child, baby, grown up in, Asheville at Biltmore. You know? And the pedesta art, you see that tile there? Well, that's that pool on the Second Basement.
And that's where if you like I said, Timothy Charles Olmstead, and you can put in affidavits or Elon Musk or whatever, and you'll find that over a two day period, there were five boys, 12 years old, that had to go through this ritual of blaspheming. And, cardinal Dolan is the one that doled out the the rape with the statue of Jesus and a phallus attached and dipped in blood and both anally and orally. And then they were given, injections that kept them erect and, adrenochrome. And there were, you know, naked young girls strapped over there hanging, on the side of the side of that tile pool, and, they tore them apart. You know? Raped them and tore them apart, barely cannibalized. And Golan left because he was glad to see them become men.
[02:39:21] Unknown:
Or is Bruce again?
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Yeah.
[02:39:25] Unknown:
I had a Christmas tour going through the Biltmore House. My wife and I went up there and just to check it out because we were trying to get out of the hang on the get some new, regeneration. And, we spent the night up there and went skiing, and it's wintertime. It's Christmas. It was all decorated for Christmas. Mhmm. And we went to basically the big rooms that they had to show off and stuff, and and they took us down to the kitchen. Now I'm standing there in that kitchen, and it ain't your normal regular house kitchen.
It was a butcher kitchen. Woah. I mean, they had yes.
[02:40:07] Unknown:
Thank you. Verification.
[02:40:10] Unknown:
I'm serious. They had I don't remember leaving. Everything they could do to butcher a a cow or anything. Mhmm. And I'm just sitting there going, what the heck is this? This isn't a kitchen.
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Mhmm.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
Yeah. So anyway
[02:40:25] Unknown:
Thank you. That's really verification. Yep. Mhmm. That's the world we live in. I don't
[02:40:35] Unknown:
I don't know if you you think of Candace Owen, but she got a cease and desist from Mac the Macrons about
[02:40:41] Unknown:
her talking about Macron's wife. Well, yeah. Yeah. I I really have enjoyed some of the series that I watched, things she's done. And she's kinda laid back a bit after shmooly and all that nonsense about you know? But it inevitably, the Jews come up in the other stuff. Right? And, she she even campaigned to be antisemite of the year last year, which she got. And, but she said she grew up, I think, New York in a Jewish neighborhood and and, has a lot of friends there. And they didn't they didn't quit her when all this happened. They, you know, knew her who she really was. And and so, you know, that goes on. But she also did an interview with e Michael Jones, and he always, you know, puts interviews back on his website too.
But, they kept it, out of circulation. And now that it is, it's under a paywall, behind a paywall at her site. So, but they were reviewing Libido Domonandi, the book about, you know, sex as a weapon, really, dominated by your libido. So and she said, every all men should read this. Every every person probably, but I don't have any of his books. I don't know if I'll ever get any. I I do really enjoy watching his, videos and interviews and things. So and reading reading things on culture wars on his website there. So it's very interesting. But there again, I think he, it just seems to me that there's too much emphasis on the corporation, the Catholic church.
You know, it's about Christ. It's not about, you know, because the Catholics very often they have the intermediary. You have to have a priest. You have to have a confessor and all this and no. Jesus is all that. John fourteen six, I'm the way, the truth, and the life, and there's no way to the father but through me. So this is an individual thing. And, and and when he'll, e Michael Jones will be talking and he'll talk about, oh, and that they, you know, broke the sixth commandment. Well, the sixth commandment is thou shall not kill. He means the seventh commandment, thou shall not commit adultery, but Catholics have removed the second commandment, which is thou shall not make unto thee any graven images.
And instead to keep it 10, they split the last one, thou shall not covet into two. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife. Thy thou shall not covet thy neighbor's stuff. But they took out two because they're making graven images unto themselves. Hey, Mer. Ma'am? Robbie here. How are you doing? Robbie. I saw your post. What's that? I saw your post about the rabbits, Robbie. Oh, okay. No. I was gonna ask you. Did you get that email I sent you about that, that, segment on Alex Jones about the latest, audio, from Lyndon Johnson's, closest friends about about confirming about Lyndon Johnson? What were your thoughts on that?
I don't think I saw that email. When did you send that? Because I know for your email. It's been a it's been a while. Okay. Well I'll send it again. Yeah. Pretty pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the more I learned too, you know, JFK was not killed. Okay? He was shot, and that's why you need to see my god, I'm hit. It's at, IMDB and also on Bitshoot. But, and this was done several years ago. Brian, Dave Brian David Anderson, s e n, and then Mark Anderson joined with him in in this research and is carrying it forward because Brian died 11/01/2022. But, he the secret service heard him say, my God, I'm hit. He didn't expect to be hit at all. Okay? This was his retirement plan, But they did shoot him in the shoulder, and it was apparently Robert Oswald, brother to Lee Harvey, who was a crack shot. Right? And he actually used the Mauser, not the other rifle that they actually talked about the other rifle before it even happened. You know, one of those things jumped the gun like they did on 09:11 with the Building 7.
That's a whole another topic. All those buildings came down, not just three. Yeah.
[02:45:17] Unknown:
Hey, Murph. This is Jesse.
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Hey, Jesse.
[02:45:20] Unknown:
That was a great interview, the German, 96 year old.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
What one?
[02:45:27] Unknown:
The one that you did an interview to the German guy. Oh, thank you. 96.
[02:45:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Interesting. Poldy. Poldy. Yeah. He's he plans to publish a Bible, Leopold's Bible.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Where he corrects me last week. I would like to look at that Bible.
[02:45:43] Unknown:
Me too. Me too.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
But he's pretty short for '96. To have somebody still he's very interested to hear somebody still alive from that time and from your perspective. And the other gentleman they called was also interested.
[02:45:57] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. David and then James. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting all of that. I thank you for noticing. Yeah. And listening. Yeah. I really that was, yeah, really enjoyed that. Yeah. But his, you know, opinion, it's much like boy scout camp, Hitler youth. You know, there was always something to do and they were kept busy doing whatever field of work they were in and, you know, some drill team type stuff. And but, you know, no drinking or smoking or, you know, any of that stuff. That how in the world do you turn around a whole country, a society when it's been like Vimerica is right now?
[02:46:47] Unknown:
It's so funny. It's so funny and so sad that supposedly, they're dominating all these terms. And what are we doing to our kids? We need that system here.
[02:46:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Really. Really. And they're still guiltifying. You know, they have that that treaty from 1949 secret treaty that, Germany is a vessel of this country until 2099. And people don't realize that at all. What are what are they doing in Germany? You know, well, they're doing whatever we make them do. And, of course, we're doing whatever Israel makes us do. So there you have it. Okay. I guess I better go and see if, Julie over there at RBN got my message in the Skype. Hope this goes off alright. And I talked about this too on, Blackbird Snack Shack. He had me on Saturday night, and I saw in Brissom's Block Spot that they had you know, they keep carry his Snack Shack. And I thought, oh, look. There's five comments, and most of them were from one person, and they were all negative. I'm like, oh, never mind.
But you'll get that. You know? People don't wanna be disturbed with the truth. They wanna trust their government, sadly. Like we know here with the nationals. Right? We know kinda all about that stuff.
[02:48:23] Unknown:
Well, Murr, look how long it took us to wake up.
[02:48:27] Unknown:
Right. Right. And and there's so many and that's what they say. I mean, it takes, like, seven to 14 times to hear about something, and it has to be from different people and not anyone you're close to before it really registers. You know what I mean? I mean, that's how and we're so impressionable, and we don't even realize it. I mean, you really should never have a television set at this point. Never.
[02:48:52] Unknown:
You know? I mean, you can see what find whatever you need to see on the Internet and just, you know. In in my case, twenty years ago, I tried to tell some family members and friends and whatever, like all of us, about the pharmakeia, about the corruption, and everything that we know. Right. And they thought that was crazy. Now they call me twenty years later, and they forget when I used to tell them. And now why? You heard what is happening? Our food supply is all messed up. Look what the, Trump is doing.
[02:49:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But they told to call you. I do. Yeah. In the back of their mind, they know they can trust you because you told them, but but you didn't get angry and walk away. You're still available.
[02:49:34] Unknown:
Well, some some didn't wanna talk to me because I tried to tell them, explain to them with facts and not but it's just just funny. You know? Twenty years later, fifteen years later, they just, they get so excited to me. So, okay. I already heard that news many times. Okay. I'll I'll try to hear you, but it's fine. But I guess it's better late than there if people are waking up in in certain areas.
[02:49:55] Unknown:
Well, you know what? There's only two kinds of people in the world, believers and nonbelievers. That's what it boils down to. So you can accept truth when it comes to you and you can be peaceful about it. And not that you don't expect suffering because you'll have more suffering probably than the average bird, but, you know, you look to see why. You know? What what am I being shown here? What is he showing me that I need to know? You know?
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Hey, Merv.
[02:50:24] Unknown:
Ma'am?
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Hi. I've never heard you before. My name is Julie. How are you? Hi, Julie. I've I've I've been lurking I've been lurking on Pod Homes, so I've heard you a couple of times. Oh, I love, what you had to say. I missed a couple of things. What did you have to say about, Trump? It's it's just all part of the same establishment is my opinion. Is that what yours is too?
[02:50:48] Unknown:
Well, it's not that cut and dried, just like any of us. You know, God works through all of us. I mean, if you look at Nebuchadnezzar and you really see that when he when Trump put that thing on his social, right, at the, with the golden statue of himself and Yep. You know, Trump Gaza, like Trump Plaza and who put it together? It might have been something to be against him, so he just puts it up there for everybody to see. And no, he's very imperfect. But look what happened to Nebuchadnezzar. Right? He had that statue. And, for seven years, God put him out the path pastor literally. He was out there grazing and growing talents and everything.
But he did come back to his senses. You know? And and so, you know, there's lessons to learn everywhere and none of us are perfect and we're all being he's working through us whether we know it or not. Even if it's Satan doing something, Satan belongs to God. You know? He says, you know, so yeah.
[02:51:44] Unknown:
Well, thank you. Hey. Hey, Murr.
[02:51:47] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, sir.
[02:51:49] Unknown:
This is Larry in Jacksonville. Do you, do you believe that Biden was a clone? And can you speak on that? And I even heard some some people out there, that that kind of follow the stuff that that you, that you talk about, that even Trump is a clone. So maybe you could speak on those two things. Well, I think they all have doubles.
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That's kind of essential. You know? And some said that the that crash in DC that the helicopter you know, this is probably remotely controlled. You know, they blame it on the woman pilot or whatever. But, I think that was remotely controlled. And they said, that his, his, double was in there. You know? So there's maybe that. And with Biden, now if you watch, Good Lion films on Rumble, Greatest Show on Earth, and it goes through this, salute, with these military that don't have any patches or anything. And, they think, ours, you know, purported in this film. And I think Derek Johnson may have been had something to do with some of that, but, that Biden was killed back then or he died anyway.
And it's been, not so much clones as actors wearing masks, you know, and they can mock the, you know, mock the voice. But the the last one they used was about four inches taller than the one they'd used before.
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Yeah. That's correct, Murs. Murs, Biden received what is the three cannon volley salute at his funeral. That's a, military funeral. I actually was at the inauguration, and what was displayed on the televised vision was not what was reality when I was down there in DC because I was at a friend's house, a huge high rise building overlooking the Capitol. And we were having mimosas and, and bagels and and lamenting over this, the stolen election. And it was so funny because I recorded the whole inauguration on my DVR when I got home. I was like, it was not sunny if there was no sun. That is not that is not reality, what I just experienced.
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Yep. Well And
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yeah. So I I believe that, you know, I I think I agree with you with masks, but I also think that these I've studied a lot on these cloning facilities. That is not Trump in the office compared to 2021. I've seen too many pictures for that to be him. It's it's either a mask or or a or a
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Yeah. A picture. Yeah. Could very well be. And, apparently, Chelsea is known to have some sort of cloning business or service. You remember that Hilda Beast, was shuttering and everything and this large black, secret service, which he never has around her. Right? But whenever it was a clone, it was him. You know, they were it was using like a laser pointer. And anyway, they kept her in the van like a side of beef. Right? And they went where? They went to Chelsea's. Why did it go to Chelsea's? Well and then he had this fake woman that wasn't her at all come out waving and with the grandchild and whatever.
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You know? Well, then you've got the, person who traffics kids called Chelsea Handler.
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Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Leamer?
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Yeah. You mentioned Timothy Holdsmith that I don't know if you've seen his latest, but they he has his latest article is on human animal hybrids.
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Yep. Yep. Well, Jesse Saboner talks about that. They actually, operate on in utero and put, like, hooves and snouts on babies and, yeah, that it's just just unbelievable. Yeah. But timothy charles holmeseth dot com and his videos are on bit shoot at the, high command.
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So yeah. I've watched I've watched them all every Tim Timothy Holmes set. Seth, I've watched all those. That that guy is an incredible source.
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Mhmm. Mhmm. And and people were always kind of like, are you sure this guy's not a screwball? You know? And, I I guess he can't really help the way he looks, you know? But he's been on this for years and they've been after him for years too. He I haven't read his book. But And then
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Yeah? Yes. Then we have Michael McGreevy or McGreevy who was on Twitter with that, pink pig icon. They suicided him. He's gone. Mhmm. He ran for Congress and he exposed all the pedophilia, and then there's that other guy who exposed all the pedophilia with pence, and they and they poisoned him.
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Yeah. Yeah. Tory Smith, I believe. And I I played the clip. I filled in for Robert Raybo one night and played a clip from that. Yep. I think that was I forget when that was. Whenever it was. Yeah. So
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me. I
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guess I better get it's I've only got five minutes to see if she's gonna try to Oh, go ahead.
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Yeah. One last thing. Who did you say you believe died in the, recent plane crash between I think you're talking about the, the airliner and the, the helicopter.
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Right. You said that you can see there's a double that died in that thing? Who who's that? There there was that rumor went around, so I don't know if it was true, but, doubled for Trump. One of his doubles was in that in that helicopter. So they say, I don't know. But that you know, some were trying to say, oh, that was fake and everything. But, if you watch Penguin six on Bitshoot, this guy that lives there and he's a photographer and, you know, credentialed for White House and stuff. But, he goes around, Knows the place really well in this Yeah. I know him. I know him and Nancy Nancy Brady and, and Mustang medic, and I see them downtown all the time. Oh, great. Great. So there's a lot to learn from all these people that are sharing what they do. Yeah. You're saying that they're they're saying that the crash did not occur?
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Like, something happened, but it was an airliner
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Well, that was Yoichi Shimatsu. When it first happened, he he had a whole another theory. But, you know, after seeing the wreckage in the water and then taking it out and, you know, that that helicopter blade just chewed that fuselage up of the plane, you know. And they apparently did finally they had a whole bunch of area down there where he couldn't go and but they apparently did finally locate all the bodies. So and that was, a lot of them were, professional figure skaters and children. And they were coming back from, you know, a kind of camp type of thing with that. And, one couple had been Russian professional skaters. And and, thing was they had moved to Connecticut from Russia to raise their son.
And, and they were killed. Now he he's still alive, but yeah. And I I couldn't help but wonder if that wasn't something to do with, some peace type stuff between them and with Trump for Putin, you know, but that never got to materialize. Okay. I better scoot. I'll talk to you guys later. Thanks. Been fun.
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Paul, are you still monitoring the comm?
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Well, did anybody,
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for my interview was.
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This is Rich in Alabama. I was I was trying to find out if, Paul was still, on monitoring the channel.
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I'm saying he's probably out to lunch.
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No. I'm not out to lunch, but lunch is in the grill. Lunch is in the grill cooking.
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My doorbell.
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Whose doorbell? Your doorbell or my doorbell? My doorbell just went off.
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Okay. I'm out.
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Alright. Sayonara.
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Can I
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be? Miss Robbie.
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Yep. Thank you. So would we. And, we keep trying. Here's another stab at it on Wednesday, the, twenty sixth of, '25. And Roger says you're hosting the radio ranch, the name of our six day a week get together here. And, I did give the date stamp. I think I did there. Paul is twenty sixth, almost at the March. Very important personal month for me over the years, but, we'll see it go when we head into, of course, April with all of its pitfalls and challenges. Anyway, we're joined by a number of people who help us extend our reach all over El Mundo. And, the keeper of said platforms is mister Beaner, and we ask him to come out. And what I usually do, I better not say that. I ask him to come out and give these people, their, the, the recognition actually that they deserve, and we appreciate their help. Don't we, Paul?
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Yes. We do. We give them the just as it's. The GVN bumper wouldn't start. I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but, everything else appears to be working. So, it's all good. At we are on eurofolkradio.com. That, of course, is our flagship station. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We're on Global Voice Radio Network, my project. Working on, on launching a new stream for GVN and, also launching a stream for GVTV.net and, also, Bloody Hell Radio. We're we're going to be, we're gonna be launching that one Who? As well.
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Where did that come from? That's out of left field, Bloody Hell Radio. I think it sounds English a little bit.
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Well, well, it's it's a new pet project of mine. There's, Bloody Hell Radio and Bloody Hell Broadcasting, which will be the parent of Oh my god. Bloody Hell Radio and Bloody Hell TV.
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You may have a a tremendous English contingent over there listening just from the title.
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Yeah. It could be. Alright. And, we're, of course, on RadioSoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul from across the drink and, also one zero six point nine w b o u f m Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services, including homenetwork.TV, freedom nation TV, go live TV, and stream life Tube. And we are also on those platforms as well today. Cool. And Can we start an anti Pritzker? Could we start an anti Pritzker movement over, for Chicago? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Okay.
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Well, they just sure need to shake that fat bastard.
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Yes. Yes. Quite. And, we're also on a free conference call, so you can join us live on the show, and the links to Euro Folk Radio, Global Voice Radio, and FCC are on our website, thematrixdocs.com.
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Mhmm.
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We're, yeah, we're we're we're adding things. We're
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You're damn sure busy when I'm not here.
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Yeah. Well, what can I say? Not too much. This is what I do when I'm home alone and the TV is broken. You get bored and the cat doesn't wanna play.
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Yeah. Or your your laser pointer ran ran out of batteries or something.
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You know what? Those laser pointer batteries, they never last. They used to. They never last anymore. I see. With the cat for, like, twenty minutes. The conspiracy.
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That is that is fun playing with cats with a laser pointer. I gotta admit. Okay. Well, here we go. Ma'arg, are you with us yet? A straw man there? Did you get him out of bed and get him coffeed up and everything?
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Oh, yeah. He's
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he's laughing at him this morning. Alright. Good. Robert Lee Catholic. Glad to see you.
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Good to be here. Let's see. Good to have you as always. We got some we got somebody with questions for you or us. Alright. Michael. He's waiting in the wings here. I was just, of of course, as I'm prone to do, when I have to get up way too early and, get ready for the program here to be with you guys and gals. And, I was watching Harrison this morning, and he was trying to go over all of the executive orders from Trump and stuff yesterday. And, hell, he went in an hour and fifteen minutes or something. It took him to over. I can't certainly repeat all those things. But there were a couple of really, refreshing things. He was being interviewed by somebody and I don't know who the guy was conservative guy. And he he brought up has not been brought up anywhere near enough the demise of Ashley Babbitt and the heinous way that that was handled in the capital there by this goofball black guy that had got a medal for it. He got a raise for it, and he's still in federal employment.
And, he was asking Trump about that, and Trump says, well, I didn't know all that, and I'm gonna look into it. Well, you can color him gone. Okay? And other things, so remind us who Ashley Babbitt was. And she Well, Ashley Babbitt, she's a little diminutive female. She looked to be, you know, middle five feet or something. And she was in that crowd in the capitol where they broke the window in the petition doors into some hall. And and the gun came out with an arm behind it of the office, and it shot her in the chest and killed her. There was four people killed that day, and they were all, a MAGA people. While the the the liars tell us that there's five police killed in all these other lives that they just you know, I mean, look. Go back to Jesus. Go back to, Revelation two nine or three nine, one of them. I don't remember which. They both say the same thing.
Beware of those who say they are, Jews that are not there. The synagogue of Satan. And that that's what both of those verses say. They're red letter. If you've got a red letter Bible, they're attributed to Jesus. Man, he had a lot of foresight two thousand years down the line before Sabbateanism or any of this other stuff to make these statements. Okay? But one of them says they lie. Beware of those who say they're Jews that are not, but the synagogue of Satan, they lie. Well, I mean, that's true. They all they do is lie. They are in I think they're incapable of telling the truth, really. Oh, I'm never part of their religion, basically, that that you can lie to
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advance your, quote, religion?
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Well, you know, yes. And it's even more so with if you don't know this stuff, and I've studied these folks for many years, about thirty years. As long as I've been studying this legal stuff, I studied them. Because I always wondered, you know, the five w's, mark, if you're a detective or an investigative reporter, who, when, what, where, and why. Well, the last two, who and why being the most important in this instance, for sure. So I wanted to go off on a quest, and I've found more than I bargained for. I can promise you that. One of the things that's startling, though, that most people don't understand I saw I saw Charlie Gray speaking to IRS when he was in up on trial there in the Richard b Russell building in Atlanta.
And, he did a very good job on pro se, k, on a criminal trial. And you go in the courtroom, it's packed, jury's empaneled there on the left, The the prosecutor and the defendants, and Charlie's handling his own his own stuff. He he subpoenaed two federal judges and the district director of the IRS and got them on the stand. And that's quite an accomplishment in itself, I'd say, for a pro se. Yeah. I would say so. So any well, I've told the story, you know, about he's, he's got the IRA. Well, the the main part of the story is he started asking one of the Jewish judges if he took the Kol Nidre oath. Well, that's right there in the upper court. Nobody knows who that is. You know what that is for the most part. For the audience, it may not. That is the oath. It's the day of atonement.
I believe it's Rosh Hashanah. There's two really key Jewish holidays. They're always in the fall. One is Yom Kippur, which I believe is the New Year, and Rosh Hashanah is what they call the day of atonement. I'm wanting to sneeze here, so pardon me for a second. Preempt that. So they go into synagogue and, you know, when I was in Atlanta, I used to drive a back way home, and I'd go past this big synagogue. And you on those days in the, in the fall, man, you even though the the synagogue's off by itself, the parking is you can't find any. It's you know, the cars are everywhere. It's a very important Jewish holiday.
And in the old days, it's when you would say this oath called the Kol Nidre. That's k o l. I want you to go check this out. If you don't believe me, you're darn to be exposed to this. K o l, second word n I d r e, Kol Nidre. And they, they all go to that synagogue on that day. You can't you gotta get a ticket. You can't even get in there. Okay? And, to do this day of atonement Kol Nidre thing. And so in the past, I think they changed it, Mark, right around, Sabotage v as it was changed right about that time in history. I don't know the total background behind it, but they used to go there and say this oath to forgive them of all their trespasses, sins, lies, whatever, transgressions the year before.
So it was a day of atonement where you have a, you atone for your sins for the previous year, which makes sense. K? Well, in that period of time, they switched it to the future. So now they go and do a day of atonement for the upcoming year instead of the preceding year. So in essence, they make themselves James Bond. They give themselves a license to lie, kill, and steal. K? And so he was asking this Jewish judge right there in this court, did you take the call and the jail? And I'm sure nobody in the in the whole audience hardly knew what was going on. But, anyway, just to bring in the IRS, and I've told this part of the story before, He gets I think he was a district director, and, he had those little half glasses on. You know? Like, when somebody really wants to intimidate you and they lower their chin and they look at you over the top of those glasses. Have you ever had that happen before?
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No. No.
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Well, I have. Okay? In the record business, I had that happen. It's it's it's kind of intimidating. You know? And, so anyway, he's got this district director. He's got those little half glasses on, reading glasses, I guess. Right. And so the IRS usually when they come after you, if I remember right, they come after you with 60016011 and 6012.
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Isn't that right, Mark? I remember those three. It's been a while since I've had to study that.
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Well, yeah, I know. Me too. But I think he's reading the the the ire the district director's on the stand. Charlie's little diminutive. Charlie's only about five foot four inches. And, so he's questioned this guy and he gets the some question to him. And the IRS, commissioner there, well, he he he he lowers his chin and he looks at Charlie over those glasses. And the the regulation he'd read says, all persons, yada yada yada. And, he looks at Charlie, goes, you look like a person to me.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I'm telling you, you could have heard a pin drop in that courtroom. Now Charlie didn't know what John Benson taught us. He was a John Nelson student. John didn't teach that stuff, unfortunately, for Charlie because he had to go do about a year and a half there club fed in Atlanta. And, but the answer would have been, well well, no, sir. A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. I I get no civil rights from the fourteenth amendment, and therefore, I owe no correlative duties. Well, that would have been great if he'd an had an affidavit on file to back it up. K? Right. But, anyway, that's I just, spurned off on that thinking about Cole Deidre and whatever. Yeah.
So, anyway, we've got a guy that's been yeah. Go ahead, Mark. Put your piece in here.
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The the US code six zero one two. It's 26 USC six zero one two is called persons required to make returns. There you go.
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Of income. I'm sure that person word probably isn't important. Right?
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Oh, so yeah. It's very important. Very, very important.
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Roger.
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All well, there's Joan. Good morning, Joan. How is, life in Costa Rica this morning?
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Pretty pretty pretty nice. I wonder what did the judge say? What did the judge say when that man asked him? Did he take the did the judge take the coronary dose? I you know, I honestly, I don't remember. I can't remember the the dialogue. I just remember the incident. So I'm sorry. My
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my memory is not better, Joan. I'm sorry.
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That's good. Thank you. Have a good day. Okay, sweetie.
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Now, Mark, what I was saying is right before the show, I don't know if you were on or not yet. We've got a a listener, Michael, who's on with us. His mic sounds good. We had a little dialogue there. And, he's been a listener for two years, and he's just starting to step forward and ask some questions. And he said he was motivated by the fact that it was tax season, and he's got some some good old IRS or individuals representing Satan questions. Michael, would you come to care to unmute and step forward?
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Alrighty. Yeah. My name is Michael, from Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. Yeah. That's right. Yep. Do I sound like it?
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A little bit when you said that not as much as some others do. We've got a real good student who used to hang around here. I think he's from the Twin Cities area named Abram. I don't know if he's with us today or not, but you've got some other folks up there.
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Well, I used to listen to him. He come you know, I've been here for two years, so I I used to listen to Abram when he come on here. So yep. Right. Well, he was on just the other day, but we haven't seen him in a while before that. So hopefully, he'll come sticking his nose in again. Go ahead. Okay. So I've been to nationals. Well, in 2024, February, I've sent my first affidavit. I didn't like it. I heard I learned something new from you then I sent my affidavit again in July
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okay and then
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I noticed the IRS and the commissioner I don't know which day, you know, I can't tell you the day. I've done it or what day. Did you do it in 2020? It it was in 2024. Correct. Yep. And then I would say I could I didn't I dragged my feet and did not do any of the notice, is right. I got overwhelmed with how to cc and all that. K. I got overwhelmed. Put it on the back burner. Then I talked to a student a few weeks ago and then we spent the time and he finally got me going and I I re noticed the IRS he didn't he helped me with I re noticed the IRS I didn't notice with the Minnesota revenue department and man he helped me notice the Minnesota AG my local,
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the sheriff's department etcetera.
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Yep. Yeah all of that I mean, he had it all for me. We man, we spent damn near midnight. And, so that is done. And now I've got an appointment with my CPA here because I gotta give her I gotta give her a week to do my taxes. Right? And I can't go to her. I don't wanna go to her and start Do you have any Uh-huh. Do you have any $8.71
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or $8.77 b tax? I think I do. I think I do. Oh, well, if you do that, then you need to take care of it. Yeah. Well, that's fine.
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Explain what it can think.
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I mean, yeah. I let you and Mark he
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knows this better than I do. You you do dialogue here on this with Mark, my Michael. As as a national, Michael, you really only have to file a return once you've noticed the IRS. You really only have to file a return if you've had withholdings that you're trying to recover.
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What I'm trying to recover is my quarterly taxes that I did in 2024 because I didn't I didn't know what I was gonna do right okay so now we're gonna start I'd like to have some questions about the ten forty nr and the oi and how to get my quarterly taxes back Okay. And my lab my last year's ten forty is 23 pages. It's 23 pages.
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Well, we don't need we don't need last year's ten forty. Come up twenty twenty three?
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Yeah. Okay. Well, the the 10 Well, what I'm saying is what I'm saying is my when I go to my CPA, she's gonna expect to do something very similar as last year. Okay. Well, I don't wanna have that dial.
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Well, tell her you got good news for
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her. I got good news. My mindset here is I liked her to do a twenty twenty four ten forty tax return as normal. Tell her not to electronically file at you know just do it as normal I take the paper take it home with me and tell her don't don't don't violate electronically for me I care for the service you don't need to do that you don't you don't anything I need to do that So do you own your own business? Is that why you I am sole I'm sole proprietor. I've been I have I haven't had a w two in since I was 16. Okay. Very good. Now are you filing as a subchapter
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s for your business?
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No. So it all goes straight It's all going through my name and all through my own proprietorship.
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Simple. So proprietor. It's very simple. It would be, let's say, 10 a two page ten forty n r, and and you put your estimated taxes that you paid in Mhmm. You there's a place to put that in, and then you you don't owe a tax, so all that's to be refunded to you. It's right there on the form. It's very simple. If you go to nationalstatus.com Mhmm. There is, under the Remedy internal revenue service, Dave and Kaye give you examples of how to fill that out. And Dave filled his out. Now he was an employee, and he may get on the call today. I think he usually listens. But Dave was an employee.
Yeah. And he just filled out a ten forty n r, as an example on his website, and he got a refund. Now it did it did take a while. Now I've got a a client who's not part of Rogers regular listeners. They're going to try to do electronic filing of their NR. So, Okay. And and, Michael, if if you need direction on that, you can email me at strawman@mark,allcaps,.com. It didn't have to be capitalized. That's just my moniker. M a r k a l l c a p s dot com. Straw man at mark, all caps, dot com. So, you know, you can email me there. I can answer questions about your the the OI form.
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Sure. Can can I ask a few more questions on the ANR? Of of of cool. Lost my train of thought here. Okay. Like I said, my my my, ten forty is 22 pages long. It's got No. Appreciation schedule. It's got all of that. They don't
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You need to forget about that. It's unnecessary.
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Yeah. That was last year. So they don't care about so I don't need to attach any of my schedule c's or schedule f's No. Or r. The r 40 m r is very simple.
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When you're a national, you're a nonresident alien to the United States government's IRS. Okay? K. Now with that and if you look at 26 CFR one dot one dash one, as Roger brought this out and that dot fell out of my chair, you pointed out that US citizens and resident aliens are the ones that owe a tax and that the non resident aliens are exempt except under eight seventy one b as in bravo and eight seventy seven b as in bravo. Eight seventy one b, the first one, that first section, has to do with if you're employed by a railroad company. They have special tax breaks, they have pensions, and so it's a whole different kind of tax thing. So if you're a nonresident alien and you work for a railroad, that income might be taxable depending upon how it's sourced.
Okay? Then you got eight seventy seven b, which initially was saying that if you have dividends from, stock So, like, if you go out and you buy stock from a domestic corporation that's headquartered here in The United States and that particular stock version that you bought, right, maybe it's preferred stock, And it pays out dividends throughout the year just because you own the stock,
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that's considered taxable. What about being part of a cooperative that doing business with their co
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I get I get dividend checks every year. Is it is this what we're talking about? Well, I don't what kind of dividend is it? Is it from a specific stock that you own?
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No. It I believe it's just mutual fund is four zero one k or something like that. I really don't know. But Okay. Very unlikely.
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Dividend? Okay. Could be insurance. You know, there's this I'll have a funny side story to tell you when we're done with this. But, no, it's dividend payments from stock individual stocks that you personally own.
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As if I went and bought Nvidia
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or Yes. Exactly. You went out and bought Nvidia and and they had a preferred stock that pays you dividends and you receive payments, you'll get a $10.99 and it'll show you what your dividend payments were for that year. That's considered US.
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K? Same thing with Do you understand why, Michael? Do you do you understand why, Michael?
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It's
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they're registered with the corporation of the US. For Well, they get their life from the from the government. They have to apply to the secretary of state of their state to get permission to incorporate and all that. And because the state gives them life, then you owe that tax. Just clarify things.
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Right. Right. And then, now you can buy and sell stock and and make money, and that's not taxable. Mhmm. No tax savings. Receiving in Right. It's when when you're receiving income off that domestic stock that you own, that's taxable. Also, interest payments on bonds from domestic corporations. So, I don't know, you remember junk bonds? You had a bunch of corporations that were selling their bonds, which is just IOU. Yep. Michael Milken. He got in trouble for selling a whole bunch of junk bonds. Excuse me. And so if you buy a bond, a corporate, domestic corporate bond, and it makes interest payments to you throughout the year, and then you owe a tax on that.
[00:27:29] Unknown:
Not CDs or No.
[00:27:32] Unknown:
No. No. It's everybody looks for something outside of this, and I'm trying to say, if it's outside of this, it doesn't count. You're not taxed on it. Yep.
[00:27:42] Unknown:
Now that's the key I'm sorry. Go ahead, Roger. For stepping. That's the key thing you're gonna wanna put in front of the CPA if you what what's your goal with the CPA? To get her to understand what you're doing?
[00:27:55] Unknown:
No. My goal is, what if I get pushed back from the IRS eight months later after I do the filing? Oh. Is this gonna be a eight month delay? I'm gonna wander and sit here, wonder. I'm gonna keep coming on Roger's show and keep listening to you talk, and then here comes eight months from now. I get hit with some frivolous, filing
[00:28:16] Unknown:
here. I can't do that anymore. Well, you might get do that either. You you might get scared with a bluff letter or two, but let me open this up to the audience. Any of you that's ever gone through this that notified the IRS ever get any blowback from the IRS of anything substantial? So if so, please open your mic and tell Michael here that you have, because we're trying to sell I've got one guy on on Merca's Telegram group, the Jack Uh-huh. Of Colorado. Okay. Jack's calling. Well, he's dealing with Colorado state, not federal.
[00:28:49] Unknown:
Right. Right.
[00:28:50] Unknown:
Well, my plan is now to you know, I I I believe Minnesota is tied to the IRS as far as if I put zero income, I put zero income on Minnesota.
[00:29:03] Unknown:
And are they gonna squabble about it? Well, we don't know yet. You hadn't done it. Are the are you ready to fight for your freedom?
[00:29:15] Unknown:
I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. Sure.
[00:29:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then Did you pay estimated taxes with Minnesota? I did. I did. Okay. Well, that's the only way you can get those back is is by filing for a refund. But here we move forward, I would seriously consider whether you need to make, pre estimated or estimated tax payments if you don't owe a tax. If you and and here's how this works. If you didn't owe a tax for 2024, right? So you fill out your tax forms, $10.40 NR for the federal as a national, you're seen as a non resident alien in relationship to the IRS. And so if you didn't owe a tax last year and you don't expect to owe a tax this coming year, you don't need to make, estimated tax payments.
And then you don't even have to file a return for the next following year unless you What about refund?
[00:30:16] Unknown:
What about all of these ten ninety nines
[00:30:19] Unknown:
that are getting sent to the IRS as I'm doing business throughout the year That gets reported. It doesn't matter. So that's okay. You've put them on notice, so you're changed. So those come in as something that the IRS doesn't now have anything to do with because you've taken yourself out of the arena. That's what I was gonna ask you a minute a second ago and try and key in on this. Is that section that Mark quoted? Now the only reason I know that is because John Benson found it. I'd never found that. K? And early on, that is the one thing that really motivated me to keep going in this, was this nonresident alien thing in that that little regulation right there. And, my thought pattern was they went through a awful lot of trouble to put that there and hide it, didn't they? Well, you bet they did. So it's really important, isn't it? And yet turns out to be real important because the tax mechanism is the key to their whole system, and this section is the key to the tax mechanism.
That's why it's important.
[00:31:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey, Roger.
[00:31:26] Unknown:
God. Can you guys let me finish something? Yeah. Go ahead.
[00:31:31] Unknown:
Sorry. I just wanted to head in there. I am actually getting pushback from the feds. They're totally ignoring my ten forty n r. I mean, I think I'm redoing it, but they're acting like now I never sent in a return, and I have this frivolous filing letter saying that I'm trying to figure out how to respond to it. But it's saying if I respond with more Patriot stuff, they're gonna hit me with that $5,000 fee. And so I was thinking, why if they can charge me a tax on eight seventy one b, then why can't they assess a frivolous filing fee to a national?
[00:32:05] Unknown:
Because because you're not a citizen.
[00:32:08] Unknown:
You're you're not a citizen in their eyes.
[00:32:12] Unknown:
Well, yeah, but I'm interacting with them for that eight seventy nine.
[00:32:15] Unknown:
Does not matter. You're a nonresident alien. Think if you live some in another country and you filed a tax return because you had income that would be taxable, as a non US citizen, do they have the authority to to try to stick you with a fine or a penalty?
[00:32:38] Unknown:
No. Well, no. I mean, I guess if I guess if I filed a tax return for August b and did it frivolously, they might be able to say I did that one frivolously. Right? No.
[00:32:49] Unknown:
No. No. No. And no.
[00:32:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[00:32:51] Unknown:
Cannot hit you with the frivolous filing penalty. We already had a person that was over on, the Telegram group who, got hit with frivolous filing, and I directed them to, yeah, threatened. Yeah. Now if you don't respond properly, they'll try to go ahead and attach it, you know, and make try to say that you're, you know, that you owe it. But, I directed this person to the, sovereign education defense ministry dot org, s e d m dot org. Right. They bought a reply letter, a sample response letter to a CP 15, which is the frivolous filing penalty letter. They modified it because they had some stuff in there that really is geared for, I think more like a sovereign type thing that they make reference to a state national instead of just a regular national.
But they modified that letter. It's not a long letter. I think it's only like three or four pages. And as soon as they mailed that in, boom, they dropped all the, you know, threat of, hitting them with penalties. Actually, I think they may have hit them with penalties, but, and I could be wrong. Don't don't don't quote me. But I do know that it went away.
[00:34:21] Unknown:
I know you were talking about making a shorter letter. I don't know if you've Yeah. I just have I've been so busy with,
[00:34:28] Unknown:
you know, my my training classes and so forth. I have not done that. But, you know, primarily, I was just gonna, you know, take a similar style letter and just boil it down to the bare essence, you know. It's like the revocation of election that that I think people should mail in, and not everybody agrees with that, and that's fine. But the revocation of election, sample that's floating out there is 13 pages. Well, I was able to boil it down to one page and one legal researcher was like, no, you can't boil that down to one page and da da da da da. And so I said, Well, here's a copy of it. And they come back and said, Well, I think I'm wrong.
I think you boiled it down to one page. And we've used that one page and the IRS has responded and recognized it. So we confirm receipt of your revocation of election, and we've applied it to your account. So I do know that that it that it is effective. It's been recognized. So what you find is, again, let me let me explain this. And this has been a a running problem in the patriot community. In order for somebody to make money off of you and and they can't just give you a one page document and charge you a thousand bucks for it. So what they're gonna do is try to make it as lengthy as possible, even though it's a cookie cutter, and and try to get you to, you know, pay as much as they can get from it.
That's that's really rampant. And and when you look at the document, it's citing all this law, and and they're educating the person who's supposed to receive this document when it's not necessary, and they're not gonna read the whole 13 pages. I just wanna give them what I'm doing, the authority of what I'm doing, and then it's done. And then if they have a problem with it, they need to let me know. I mean, all of our cards, we're not hiding anything, we're not trying to sneak in and and do some kind of tax loophole or anything like that. We're playing with our cards straight up, and if I'm wrong, point it out how I'm wrong.
[00:36:47] Unknown:
Mark, do you know if you might have that letter done in the next week or so? Because I kinda need I'm up to my thirty days to reply to this, and it might be helpful because, otherwise, I'm just gonna wing it.
[00:36:57] Unknown:
Okay. Well, please, do me a favor, Jack, because, some days, I'm I'm like a a pinball in a pinball machine.
[00:37:06] Unknown:
No. I know.
[00:37:07] Unknown:
Send me an email. Like, first, I I don't know if we confirmed when the due date is on that letter. It's thirty days. So sometimes I'll the tenth.
[00:37:19] Unknown:
Say again? It's dated the tenth, but online on IRS, it looks like they sent it on the twenty seventh.
[00:37:25] Unknown:
Okay. Well, here's the thing, though. It doesn't matter. What matters is in the letter, and it says you got 30, does it say from the date of this letter or from the date that you received it? I think it's from the date of this letter. Okay. And and That's the tenth. The date of the letter, did you receive it somewhere near the date of that letter so you get your full thirty days? Well, I pulled it out of the mailbox on the tenth.
[00:37:53] Unknown:
So I don't know how they actually put the tenth on there. They said Well, they're advanced dating it. They're advanced dating it. So
[00:38:01] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. So so thirty days. Now be careful. We got thirty one days in this month. So it's not gonna be
[00:38:11] Unknown:
April 10. The tenth.
[00:38:13] Unknown:
It's gonna be the ninth. Yeah. I wanna send it before the ninth. Yeah. Right. Right. So need to put little sticky notes here and there. And, needs to be a daily thing that we're working towards and and getting a simplified letter that you can send off to the IRS. Okay. I'll email you today just to Alright. Just a reminder. Yeah. You're welcome. So back to my letter.
[00:38:37] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. I'll wait. Oh,
[00:38:39] Unknown:
yeah. Let let's finish with Michael first.
[00:38:43] Unknown:
No. I'm good. We we can talk with me. Okay. I didn't expect it to be all two hour. Oh, no. We can talk again on Saturday.
[00:38:52] Unknown:
Yeah. But the the thing is is that that it's scary for most people to make this change. Very scary. Now you're way ahead of the curve because a lot of people blindly went to a CPA for their business and the CPA goes, oh, you need to have a subchapter s. Well, guess what? Now you get to pay them to fill out two tax forms. One for the company and one for you individually. So they just doubled their money. Right? Now if you're a US citizen, a subchapter s or a corporate a subchapter s corporation is a way to write off all your expenses under the business.
And then any payouts through there come to you individually and then you got your personal exemptions and, you know, mortgage interest and all that other stuff that you can deduct off your taxes. You know? So that may, in some in some instances, make sense. But since you've taken direct payments to you individually, you don't have to worry about converting your your subchapter s corporation to to a just a sole proprietorship and having all the funds come straight to you. So you're way ahead of that curve. A lot of people had to painstakingly go and revoke their election to be a subchapter s corporation and then notify the IRS how their LLC or how they want their LLC to be recognized.
[00:40:22] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay?
[00:40:23] Unknown:
So you're you just skip that whole part, and now it comes down to, as a national, what income, what source of income do you have to pay a tax on? And that's really only if it's sourced from within, that's the key word, within The United States. Mhmm. So if you don't have a contract with the feds, you're not getting the dividend or interest payments. In other words, you know, from the domestic corporations like we just previously discussed. For the for the very most part, you're not gonna owe a tax. All those ten ninety nine's, they do show your income, but none of it's taxable. None of that's taxable.
[00:41:09] Unknown:
And Mike, can I interrupt for a second?
[00:41:12] Unknown:
Go ahead. Finish that out. Yes, please. Nationalstatus.com
[00:41:16] Unknown:
has a step by step explanation with examples on that. Now, I just I don't think they I don't think they do the, schedule OI, which is other information, but I think and let me put it this way. We've we've had students have used the o I, and we've had students who haven't used the o I. If I use the Let me finish, please. With the students who didn't use the o I, some of them got a refund without any additional paperwork. Others got paperwork saying we need more information, which was the same information that's on the other information schedule, the OI.
Okay. Basically, that information that was not part of the original filing. So I think if you've included the schedule OI that's attached to the ten forty NR, then you just preempt any delay in getting a refund. If that makes sense.
[00:42:22] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. And now that qualifies you, Michael, to go back and at least put in for a revocation of election if you choose to, and they may honor and they may not. We don't know at this stage. As of next week, I believe we start the external revenue service according to mister Lutnick there on Trump's Trump's counsel. So they're obviously gonna try and phase out the IRS. If you've got this situation, I'd get that in as quick as possible and maybe, quote, unquote, maybe it'll get honored. The point I wanted to make, Michael, was for this clarification and for the newer people. I heard Dan was trying to chime in there a second ago. There's only two statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Is that right?
[00:43:08] Unknown:
That is right. Heard you say it many times.
[00:43:11] Unknown:
Well, so you go to this 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, and it says, that income tax is owed by all individuals. Now notice, they use the word individuals there, not person. Isn't that interesting? An income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States and or residents and to the extent of eight seventy one b, eight seventy seven b, all nonresident alien individuals. Well, there's only two statuses, free or bond, I like to call it. And, we know which one the bonds are, citizens of The United States or residents. If you flip over to the next page there in the CFR, they have a question, who who is a citizen?
And it says anyone born or naturalized and subject to the jurisdiction in The United States and subject to its jurisdiction. Well, that's verbatim fourteenth amendment. K? So we know automatically which one the slave is, So it doesn't matter what they label this other one. We know what it is, don't we? And and you can figure that out and be astute about it and go, okay. Well, I'm alien to the fourteenth amendment, nonresidency nonresidents of the residency. You could say that, and that's what it is. Or you could even go a step further and say, well, let's look at these two sections of the code they're talking and referring to here. What are they?
Well, I'll be darned. They're both constitutional taxes. So tell me, what is Jose the tomato picker, which is who you think this nonresident alien is, what's he doing being responsible for constitutional taxes? Checkmate. They got nowhere to go. So, anyway, just a lesson for everybody. Larry and Dan were trying to say something there. And, okay. Larry, you're you're here. Go.
[00:45:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Concerning, eight seventy one taxes, eight seventy seven is expatriation, and eight seventy one b is the, the dividend tax. And concerning that particular tax, if someone owed that tax, eight seventy one b dividends on on investment stocks that they directly own, would that be represented by and I don't know if you know this or Mark or maybe another student out there. Would that be represented by a student receiving what's known as a $10.99 dash DIV, which obviously stands for dividends?
[00:46:02] Unknown:
I've never seen one of those before. I try to stay away from the stock market, so I don't know. Sounds like it would.
[00:46:14] Unknown:
Mark, would you know?
[00:46:18] Unknown:
Sorry. I had my my microphone on mute. But, yeah, if you receive a $10.99 DIV for dividend, it's an indication that that might fall under a taxable source of income. And you need to look into it, don't just disregard it. Find out where that dividend came from.
[00:46:38] Unknown:
Mhmm. There you go. Dan?
[00:46:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm here, sir, and thank you. Hey, man. That was me. Were you trying to say something? I got a bluff letter.
[00:46:50] Unknown:
Oh, you did? From who? Yeah.
[00:46:53] Unknown:
From the IRS. And it wasn't a letter like a form letter. It was they picked back up the billing that I had formally terminated. Uh-oh. Meaning, I I was in the middle of a tax payment repayment. I could always kept pulling myself into repayment as these years got harder and harder. And, and finally, when I re revoked the light the I revoked my, election. And then paying. I still continue to pay for a while because I was just afraid to turn it off. And then as my funds started getting low, I just switched bank accounts. And I stopped paying a thousand dollars a month. They probably owe me almost a million dollars if I could affect all my tax money. But, the so it's just a it's just another payment coupon saying, hey. Here's a payment coupon.
[00:47:42] Unknown:
So I still have a lot of money.
[00:47:45] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
Go ahead. I just wanna let you know. I just wanna left it alone, and I'm thinking, should I send it back?
[00:47:51] Unknown:
Well, Mark, you might unmute. It seems to me that you had some sort of an altercation with them, and you signed some sort of a payment schedule in a in a what do they call that? An offer and compromise. Right? Years back.
[00:48:06] Unknown:
Not a compromise. Just, when you're when it's under 50,000, you can generally each time send them an offer to a payment plan. As long as it doesn't stretch out any more than five years, they'll take
[00:48:17] Unknown:
it. Yeah. And they did. So How many were you paying on that? Many.
[00:48:22] Unknown:
A thousand bucks.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Well, if if I remember correctly, when you and I don't know about the one you're on. I I don't about offering compromise. And then they may be probably are compromised. Alright. Well, they may be, and they probably are the same. But I know that when you sign one of those agreements with them, like a contract, that in the fine print did you read the fine print?
[00:48:49] Unknown:
Of course, I did not. And
[00:48:51] Unknown:
it says the way it say of course not. It says that you agree to continue to file 10 forties for five years.
[00:48:59] Unknown:
Al, I don't know how far And it was after I got I got into the payment plan that I then finished the revocation of it all.
[00:49:07] Unknown:
So I I in my opinion, I revoked all of that. Well, well, you don't okay. But they might not recognize that. They're desperate for money. Right. Right. What, how long ago was that? You're right. Yeah.
[00:49:22] Unknown:
This was a coup two years ago, two to three years ago, that was the last time I signed anything with them.
[00:49:28] Unknown:
Okay. Push yes, Paul. And then I'm gonna query Mark. Yes.
[00:49:33] Unknown:
How long ago did they send you the the coupon book?
[00:49:38] Unknown:
It was one coupon letter, and it was about twenty days ago.
[00:49:42] Unknown:
Twenty days ago? Okay. Yeah. If they I would think that they're they're baiting you with a confirmatory writing.
[00:49:53] Unknown:
That's what it feels like because they're just asking you to make a payment. There's no other language in there. Hey. Where are you? Hey. You haven't filed these years. Hey. Is that a You need to rifle a response back rebutting that.
[00:50:05] Unknown:
Just remind them, of your revocation. Because if you let that stand and don't object, then they're gonna proceed. Fair enough.
[00:50:17] Unknown:
And and and and now the situation the situation here is different because we don't know how long the IRS is gonna be around. Okay? I mean, literally. So you can I agree? Write that into your whatever you're gonna do in your plan, but just realize that may be an element here.
[00:50:37] Unknown:
Absolutely. Could I get your e could I get your email? And you would rattled off a web address, not nationalstatus.com. I got that, but it was southern something, and I didn't Oh. Get a chance to log in.
[00:50:49] Unknown:
Sovereigneducationdefenseministry.org. S as in Sam, e as in Edward, d as in David, m as in Mary, 0 r g. Yeah. S e g m Dan. Dot o r g. S e d m. Southern
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education Southern
[00:51:09] Unknown:
sovereign defense Sovereign education. Education
[00:51:13] Unknown:
ministry.
[00:51:15] Unknown:
Defense Ministry. That's our buddy, Joshua All Builder. We've known him for a long time. Occasionally, we communicate. He's got another one called famguardian.org for familyguardian.org. It's a sister site, and you may wanna, check into both of those, Dan. There's a lot of information on there. He prefers the written approach to this. I prefer the audio.
[00:51:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm down with both of it. And then your email address, I didn't I didn't get a chance to get that. It's mark?
[00:51:47] Unknown:
It's strawman. Strawman, just like it sounds, all one word, at mark, all caps, dot com. M a r k c a l l c a p s dot com. Does not have to be capitalized. Strawman@mark,allcaps,.com.
[00:52:11] Unknown:
And Mark is m a r k. Right? That's correct. Yeah. And you said call caps, like c a l, like I'm making a phone call? No. No. A l l. A l. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. It's a place spell out all That's too funny. You spell out the word all caps in your in your web address. Yes. Yes. Okay.
[00:52:30] Unknown:
Yeah. This is my moniker when I first, came on Roger's show. My my slogan was that your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction, and I still stand behind that. I didn't Your name in all capital letters does not automatically create a jurisdiction.
[00:52:52] Unknown:
Nope. Guess what else doesn't create a jurisdiction? The freaking stinking number on your driver's license does not create a jurisdiction, and the Or the judge agrees on that. Or Social Security number or any of that other stuff.
[00:53:06] Unknown:
It is you answering those two questions, yes, and signing something that solidifies. They created the jurisdiction under fraud. Those two questions you agree with it and solidify it.
[00:53:19] Unknown:
Absolutely. Is there any spit last thing I'll just ask? Any particular way you suggest I open up that that, letter? Because, I mean, I'll I'll toil over a little bit. Something will occur to me, and then I'll I'll say something good because I always do. But Are you able to scan it and send it to me? Right now, my scanner is broken.
[00:53:35] Unknown:
Okay. Do you have a local FedEx office or even a UPS, station? You can go in and have them, scan it for you and put it on a flash drive.
[00:53:48] Unknown:
And send it to, and I'll send it to that email address. Yeah. I just got by, like, one of those little office supply things and do it. A dollar. Yeah. You know? So, good. Now Awesome. So we take care of you there, Dan?
[00:54:03] Unknown:
I think so. I already revoked my election, so I'm just gonna say my election has been revoked. Why are you sending me a letter? I I rebut this. It's basically something along those lines.
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Well, stretch it out and and play it out because we're in a unique I mean, I never thought I'd be sad to see the IRS go away. Trump, if he accomplishes this, will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country if for only this. Okay?
[00:54:30] Unknown:
Dude, George Washington gave back the continental army, and president Trump,
[00:54:35] Unknown:
gave away the IRS. You gotta love it. Yeah. Right. Got really well. I refer to them as the individuals representing Satan, and that's who they are and do. But we I never thought I'd be sad to say they're go they're potentially going away. They've been my best friend. Our business model. Is that what's happening, Roger? It's their their recruiting abilities is uncanny. Okay?
[00:54:59] Unknown:
Right. Right. Right. I get it. No. I'm with you. Alright. Well, I think I'm all set. And thank you so much, gentlemen. Much love. Thank you, Daniel.
[00:55:06] Unknown:
Okay. We're gonna zip back to Michael in Minnesota here. Michael, what where where are you now?
[00:55:14] Unknown:
What does that mean?
[00:55:16] Unknown:
As my thoughts on the subject? Know? In this discussion and conversation, did you have other things? Are you unsettled about something? Where where are you?
[00:55:25] Unknown:
Well, I'm gonna have to relisten to what Mark has said to me on the on the call. I may have more questions maybe on Saturday. Yeah. My questions, I had a question on the OI. I've got a pre filled form sample that maybe Mark have seen floating on the telegram group. And is Mark there?
[00:55:53] Unknown:
Oh, he's there. Oh, he's here. Okay.
[00:55:57] Unknown:
Okay. So on that oi form, my understanding is when I put zero income on the NR, there's a spot where there, I don't know the line number, but it's it's, I think it's line k of total income exempt by treaty from schedule o I. And and is that what I put on the whole gross income? Yes. Through all my ten ninety nine, 10 90 nine dividends, all of that. Yep. And ten ninety nine INT where the interest I made on, CDs
[00:56:35] Unknown:
and Yep. Well, now you said ten ninety nine dividends. Aren't those an indication of ins inside source income? Didn't you isn't that what that means, Mark?
[00:56:47] Unknown:
Well, yeah. You gotta look I'm saying it's an indication that it might have come from a taxable source. Okay. So you've got to investigate it and decide if it's all determine that. Right. What where it came from. Most of the time, you see people getting it from a bank account that they draw a little interest off of or, you know, a CD or something like that, that's not taxable.
[00:57:14] Unknown:
No. Okay. Oh, I I see I see what you mean, Mark, in that differentiation there.
[00:57:21] Unknown:
Right. So if you get a ten ninety nine dash DID, you need to stop and consider where did that where is that source of income, you know. So unless it ties back to the stocks and bonds from a domestic corporation, then in general, it's not gonna be taxable.
[00:57:46] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I would have to call that your head around right now. It is a lot.
[00:57:55] Unknown:
And it's a lot of fear, especially during this time of year from January 1 to April 15. All you hear about on the news, radio, television, wherever, is about people that went to jail for violating the tax code.
[00:58:12] Unknown:
How about this? If I overestimated, say, if I don't know what the interest, that dividend interest is coming from, and I just put a number of $3,000 just to get the IRS to not look at it. I over overestimate.
[00:58:26] Unknown:
No. What happens
[00:58:28] Unknown:
don't do that?
[00:58:29] Unknown:
I can't imagine having dividends coming in at that level of $3,000. You gotta have a hell of a wallop that's delivering that.
[00:58:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But Well but don't do that. Your your your offer everything that you're telling me is coming out of fear based. Yep. Yep. Okay. You're afraid the IRS is gonna do this. You're afraid they're gonna do that. You're trying to appease them. And what if I throw this number in? And what if I it's not necessary. This is so simple. I wish people could understand it, but I'm not blaming you. You're not alone. Well, this is my this is why I'm on the call after two years. Yeah. Right? I hear this all the time. I hear this all the time.
[00:59:13] Unknown:
Alright. Hold on. I hear the whistle. Whistler. Let this all set up. Time. Mike, can you hear the whistle all the time? Just hold on, Mike. Hold on, Mark. Paul, front and center.
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You know what I have a constant recurring vision of is is that scene in freedom to fascism by, Rousseau when the who Right. And he's interviewing that guy Cohen, who is a former IRS director. Do you remember that scene? Right. They're talking Yiddish. The same. Well, they're talking Yiddish. K? Okay. And, so, he's questioning about the IRS, and Cohen goes, you can't do anything about it. Well, mister Cohen, you're dead ass wrong. We caught your ass thieving, slaving everything you do so well. We caught you dead to rights, and we can do something about it. So just, that scene has always stuck in my mind.
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You see, you I had the pleasure of screening that before it was released to the public in Las Vegas. It was either 02/2004 or 02/2005. Mhmm. And we had a regular size theater that, Aaron Russo, the producer of of the, America Freedom to Fascism, and he was there. And that place was packed. We had to stand out in line just to get in. It was Really? Crazy. Yeah. That's good.
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Yeah. Yeah. So he's quite a guy. You know what his claim to fame was, don't you? No. No doubt. He discovered Bette Midler.
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Oh, no.
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For whatever that's worth. Okay. We were dealing with Michael, and we get to say goodbye to our Chicagoans, and I don't think the Brit folks are with us today. Anyway, we'll see if we can get back on track. Michael, it's incredible how they have controlled the whole nation through fear of these people right here, the IRS. And and you're such a I mean, there's no slight on you. You're not alone. You're such a good example here on the air of of, and I you should always they're like handling a rattlesnake. I guess you should always handle them carefully, but, they can always bite you. Okay? And sometimes you get the advantage, and that's what we've got here.
So, what what is there anything we can do other than just running it over in your mind is to to bring your confidence out instead of your fear.
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I'm just gonna have to go through my first tax season year as a ten forty n r individual. I'm just gonna have to go through it. Just gonna have to go through and and wait eight months and find out what happens.
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Yeah. No. Because they don't ever react that fast. It ain't gonna be just eight months. They don't react for a couple of years down the line. Yeah. They they do not move fast.
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So then, okay, I do this $10.40 n r. I get my I get my estimated taxes back to me. I stopped filing. I stopped filing in twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. Here we go it's all silent. Then seven eight years from now, boom, They're they send some notice to me.
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Well, seven years is the limit. Hey. You're off the air. What's eight years from now? You're off the air. Well, I you you miss I said seven years is the limit they can go back to my knowledge. Well, what I would do at that point, I hate what ifs. You know? If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Right? But I would confront them with your, notice and and that you sent them, or did this accidentally get lost in your files? Every time you communicate with them, you put that app copy of that affidavit and put it down as exhibit a or schedule a or whatever, and you keep sending them a copy of that along with whatever else you're send replying to. Now the reason for the madness is if you understand the way their system works, you're dealing with a court of record right here, and that's the initial exchange between you and the agency.
And that has to go in an administrative folder because that's the record of the court. K? So as you build on that, you keep sending them copies of that affidavit. If they ever wanted to come after you for failure to file, then anything that's been submitted to them is in that folder, can be brought into the administrative proceeding or court proceeding, and it bypasses the rule of evidence because it's in it coming from a court of record. So it's just one more layer of defense.
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Mhmm.
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What's worse, not filing or filing a ten forty and RNOI with a bunch of zeros
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every year. You don't have any obligation to file. So you're getting over that. I've always done it, so I gotta do it. Well, there's a way to not do it, and that's what you've moved over to. You've gotta get that confidence built up in yourself. Okay? And and I I I can help you, but I think maybe, but I don't but I I can't do it for you.
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Or maybe even Minnesota is gonna have a tougher time with me because I'm not gonna file it with the IRS. And maybe Minnesota is going to expect something.
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I don't mind people thinking ahead, but it's dealing with all these what ifs that leave you up at night. That is to me an exercise. That's probably not worth going through because they're the chances of them coming after you here. I've been on the air for fourteen years, Michael. We've been helping people understand and go through this as we've grown in that fourteen years, except for Jack here and what's going on with Michael Nail down there in stupid Alabama. Would you there's never been another, problem from IRS ever in all that time.
So I don't know what more I could tell you.
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You gotta you gotta know in your mind that you are no longer within The US, United States jurisdiction. So any income that's not connected directly with The United States it's not taxable and it's really hard because you believe your entire life that you've lived within The United States without knowing what the description or the definition is of The United States. You got a United States Of America which are the individual states that make up a union known as The United States Of America and then you got The United States which appears to be more of a corporate type of entity that is basically operating outside of the constitution.
I think Roger calls it extra legal. Right? So now you're wrapped up in this you're you're wrapped up in this administrative.
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Yes. Hey. Because it's the administrative that came from the switch. It wouldn't be constitutional, but under a bankruptcy, it's extra constitutional. Why? Right. Because every country in the world has bankruptcy laws.
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Yep. And and and you unknowingly have volunteered into that administrative system where you're getting taxed, you're getting punished, you're getting penalized if you don't file tax returns. You are no longer in The United States. If you filled out your affidavit and you send it to the Secretary of State or use it with an application for your passport you are no longer a US citizen, you do not live in The United States and any income that you make that's not sourced from within The United States is not taxable. You can keep coming up with all these scenarios that you think it would be taxable I'm just saying it's not unless you live in The United States.
So Michael you gotta realize you are no longer a US citizen and since you're no longer a US citizen you do not live in The United States.
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Mhmm.
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Unless you live unless you live in the District Of Columbia or maybe you live on federal land that's owned by The United States, then you're inside your jurisdiction. But even then, there's limits to the taxation. You gotta be in in The United States for a certain period of time. Okay. Well, hold on. On Rosendalya.
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We like these what if situations. All the students do. What if you were from the state of Virginia like Julie, and she moved into DC, but yet she was still doing business in Virginia as a national? Just because she lives in DC, they couldn't attach that, could they?
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It's not physical. It's political. Well, it it yes. It has to be attached to The United States. That's correct. Politically? That's correct. Pull yes. That's correct. Okay. Yep. Just a split here as you like to Yeah. It'd be like if you were a Democrat and then it'd be like if you become a Democrat or were a Democrat and you become a Republican, are you holding or beholden to the Democratic party anymore? No. Same thing here it's like like Roger's saying it's political. So if you're no longer a US citizen the does any of their tax laws continue to apply to you?
Maybe only in a very limited situation, like what we've discussed. Reverse the example
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and see if US for a long time, until fairly recently, last few years, was the only country that taxed their citizens on their worldwide income. If you lived abroad and made over so much, you had to pay an income tax. So it's a political thing no matter where you live.
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That's correct. I stand corrected.
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And if you go back to Elk versus Wilkins, which was the, case in '25 '78 or '84, something along that line, when the Indian wanted to come on and and vote as a fourteenth amendment citizen. They wouldn't let him. Went to the Supreme Court, and and they and this is the only case, to my knowledge, still to this day, Mark, believe it or not, that's ever focused on the and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And it was cited again in in Wonkiam Arc, and I know it's been cited since. I don't believe it's ever been, anybody else has visited it. And its statement was very simple. It says subject to the political jurisdiction thereof.
To the total or complete political, jurisdiction. There you go. Interesting enough because here it is. It looks like there's been a a speaking of birthright citizen, one of the congressmen has entered a bill. I heard Harrison speaking about it this morning, where they're gonna clarify birthright citizenship through the congress and go in and say, it's only if one or both parents of yours were, American that you have in that you have, what the heck is, entitled to slavery of birthright citizenship. Okay? And so and that's what's gonna turn on this whole decision with Trump against all the illegal aliens he's trying to deport. And they're going in. It's sitting up at the Supreme Court right now. And what I never realized was that in Elk v Wilkins, Elk's parents were still under the emperor of China, but they were in essence residents.
So they still had Chinese citizenship, but they were residing in San Francisco when they had him. And so that's what got him under the, under the label of birthright citizenship. If they would have not been residing, he would not have been given that, it appears. So that seems what the whole case up there is gonna turn on. And I think personally from my knowledge of this is very valid. Very valid. What's not valid is anchor babies, where mom comes across the river, mom and dad are Mexican nationals, they have the baby on on on the Texas side, gets a citizen of The United States, but they're still Mexican nationals. Doesn't apply there.
Capisce? Are we connected?
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Yeah. We're connected.
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Okay. Okay. Well, when I hear that vast silence, I always worry.
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Just noodling on it, Raj.
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So, anyway, that's probably and that's gonna be very interesting with our insight into this and understanding as this comes down, how they rule and why. And it's you could see right there in that last example, well, that's not legitimate. And that's what Eastman comes out and said, I've seen a couple interviews with him. We played him on the air here, the professor John Eastman of this little college, highly respected constitutional scholar. And he said, I can't find where that came from, birthright citizenship of the net foreign nationals coming in and having the baby. Because the other examples are, if you're royalty from another company, a country, or a visiting ambassador and you have your child, the birthright citizen does not apply to them.
If you're an intruding army and the child is born off of the army while they're intruding in the country, the child doesn't have birthright citizenship. And isn't that what we're dealing with here? Aren't we dealing with a foreign army of these migrants that were hustled in here and and provoked to come in here with incentives? And they don't fit any of those parameters if they've had these children. There's a few hundred children involved in this suit that have been born since this all started. And so I I it's gonna be very interesting to see how the court rules on that, Mark.
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Yep.
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That one that one's in the pressure cooker right now.
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Yep. I agree. So Interesting times.
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Yep. Yep. Boy, Trump is just blazing new new ground everywhere, and he's starting to get real assertive. I heard, they Dume Hitchee this morning. Harrison was going over get this, Mark. There's 15 judges in the Federal District. 5 of them were foreigners who've never been judges before.
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Woah.
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One of them, this, oh, what's her name? She's been real notorious in all this. She's from not maybe Jamaica, One of the islands in the Caribbean. Her father and from a family of communist. And her father and brother were so radical that the local communist party kicked him out. And it's the daughter that's the sitting federal judge. There's another one, and there's all five of them. Never had judicial experience. Couple of them had lit law degrees and stuff. But, Pee, unbelievable. Well, they're fixing to move on something. Speaker of the house came out and the you know, they have the power to do away with the entire federal judiciary. You knew that, Mark?
Yeah. Yeah. The only court that is in the constitution is the Supreme Court. Everything else is a creature of Congress. And, but article one, yes, and article three, judges and stuff. And, they have the power to do away with all that. And they may. They can go into one of these judges like this bad one that I can't remember her name. They could go defund her totally. She'll get all of her court officers and everything. Defund all of it. They still have to pay her, but she's got no impact on me. So there's a number of ways they can approach it, but the speaker of the house was talk threatening to consider doing away with the entire federal judiciary this morning from yesterday.
So, yeah, this is this is this is going going hot here pretty quick, folks. Wow. What now isn't it not interesting to be in this catbird seat here and see all this happening that's so important? And guess what? We understand it.
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Mhmm. Very cool. Brisk.
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Bruce. Well, good morning to you, Bruce.
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It is so far. Appreciate you talking about judges. Yeah. They aren't qualified to be a judge. What about There's a shitload of them. They
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they put 272. Okay. Go ahead. I'll quit interrupting you. I'm getting work out.
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Got those of offices. They're illegal, lawful. How many what? None of them do. How many have their oath of offices in hand along the bench while they're sitting there? They don't. Yeah. Well, you look you can't say oath of office.
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You cannot say that exclusively. There may be some that do. But if they do, it's a small percentage. I would agree with you.
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Yes. Okay.
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Moore?
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Roger. Moss?
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Moss? Yeah. Sketch.
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Yeah. I, is Mark there?
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Yeah. I'm here. I'm sure he is. Yeah.
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I asked this question yesterday with Roger, and I I liked his answer. And I'm just gonna ask you this question. Do we know that, I'm gonna ask it two different ways. Do we know if Joe was recognized as a national by the administrators in his court? And does, and do you believe that was the specific issue that or the specific filing that or whatever you wanna call it that turned his case, and I'm gonna ask it a different way. Now if Joe wasn't a national, do you think with all the circumstances that he had, do you think that the core quote warranto would have, saved his he would have still prevailed in his cases, NI Yield?
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Well, I don't think they recognize, Joe Lusticka's status as a national. They just blazed through everything, has challenged jurisdiction based off his status as a national. They just ignored it. And it went to doing a qua qua ronto, it's a writ of Quo Woronto, which showed their violations as a city basically violating their charter, which is to uphold the constitution. And that is what turned them quickly because Yep. If that goes forward, Joe could strip the city, would no longer be a city, period. And then he could, you know, put up, Lustica City.
You know, the vote of the people got together. They could rename their city and reorganize completely.
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Yep. So The way I understand it goes back to the whole to the whole people, Joe included Yes. If that reversed.
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That's correct. That's correct. So, that's why I kinda reversed it. It said if they voted to name it Lustica City, they could. But, that'd be funny, wouldn't it? It would be.
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Wonder if he could have gambling casinos and stuff.
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But the, the Quo Ronto, I don't think had anything to do whether he was a national or not. Now it's under common law, and I would say he have every right to file that. But that is what turned the city to, basically capitulating and giving him everything that he wanted. I don't know if he's finished that finished completely with them. I had they had one issue, I think, that was remaining. Discovery. They would they came back. The the the attorney that he just beat,
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there came back. So we wanna clean up discovery and some other stuff. We'll visit it. I thought he said in April. May maybe. But, anyway, they're dealing with violations. No. They didn't. They didn't wanna
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they didn't wanna leave any violations that could be held against them. So now think about this. If all that goes away, then the quo were want quo were want say that again. Quo Waranto is moot, and it'll be dismissed. Mark? Yes.
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It's me, Julie. Hi. Julie. Yeah. Hi. I read that the secretary of state for your state you're in is the custodian of all recorded oaths of office, of all arbitrators and judges within your state. That's correct. Well, so if you wanted to find out something for, because most of us since we're nationals are would be in a a state court here, you could do FOIA requests for them to find out if they have their recorded oaths of office. Do you know I don't even think I don't I don't even know if you have to do a FOIA. I think you can just ask them for it if they have it on file. Yeah.
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Come in. This is by us again.
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But hold on. Alright. I'll If you ask for a copy of the if you ask for a copy of an oath and and they just say we don't have it, you really need something in writing. So it'll either fall under your state's Freedom of Information Act or an open records request. In Oklahoma, it's called open records.
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Right. So Alright. Paul was next, then Bruce. Paul?
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I think in some cases, that varies state by state. What you do is you reach out to the secretary of state of the state and you ask them if they are the repository for the judge's oaths of office, or state officers oaths of office. They may tell you that they are, in which case proceed. There's a couple of states, I think, that turned that over to the reference section of the main library. How they wound up doing that, I have no idea, but
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it all starts with questions. Know that. Never heard that before, but check with them and see if they are. If not, ask them who is. Bruce.
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Yes. You go personally to the secretary of state's office. He didn't know you're gonna come there. You demand you want the oath of office of that judge right now. Oh, I got other things to do. No. I'm demanding you get it right now. If you don't have an oath of office, I need a letter from you stating he has no oath of office filed in this case in in this, department, and he's not a duly qualified judge. That's all you gotta do. Go there personally because they'll put you off for another week and do a false affidavit. I mean, open the
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office. Okay. So, obviously, British is a little assertive. Yes, sir?
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Yeah. I'm wondering, you know, when you have a court case, you can, you can, request somehow, I Mark would know this, that they, contact the the US State Department on your status politically and that they have to do that. I'm wondering if we could do that if we have a court case in the state that we can request through due process that the state come in and and produce the judge's oath.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, you could actually if you have a court case, I think you could potentially ask it through a subpoena, a subpoena deuces take them, which is third party records. But I don't know if that would fly because it's not against the opposing party. It's against the judge. So, I don't know about that, you know, asking it through the court. Now as far as your nationality is concerned, yes, you could go to the US Department of State in DC and ask for a certificate of nationality and see if they would mail that to the the court to show that you're a national and not a US citizen.
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But their side of it says it's discretionary whether they do it or not. And from our discussions, the people that have tried it have never gotten a response out of them. Now granted, that was the Biden administration. Maybe Rubio would be different. Don't know. I'd I'd I'd I'd love to see some people try it, see if we couldn't get something like that in a proceeding, but I don't I don't want you in a proceeding to necessarily have to do it. I'd rather keep you in the proceeding.
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Please try to avoid court.
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Do not go to court if you can avoid it. People, they you know, they did is it that they watch too many Perry Mason episodes when they're young or something? They're just dying to go to court.
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Yeah. Of course, that's where we ultimately have to defend our status if it goes there. You know? But I'm when you look at the time, the effort, the effort is just unbelievable. If you don't already have your research tight and and you you just get into a situation where you've never been before and you've never done any research in that area, you you're gonna have a battle. You're absolutely gonna have a battle, and you're gonna be scrambling every step of the way to get your research to to, you know, to, support your position. Are we playing marbles here? Sounds like it. Maybe Tiddlywinks?
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I don't know.
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I got a big steely right here. Going on. They money, money, money, you know?
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Yeah. Could be. Heard that song yesterday. They played it as an intro. Over there oh, I know what else I wanted to talk about. Did did anybody see Kyle Sarafin? He was on both Alex and, Owen yesterday, or do you even know who he is?
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I don't even know who he is.
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He he's a big time FBI whistleblower. He was one of those guys that got thrown out and all the stuff. He's a very interesting guy. He he's got three children. They boy, they treated this guy dirty, man. Anyway, as they have several of these whistleblowers, and he was on there for hours yesterday. Well, one thing he said get this. And he said, you still got friends in the bureau, of course. And one of his friends who's not in the DC office is out in the boondocks somewhere. And, he was trying to do something with a printer, and, and he couldn't get online with the printer and something was added to the printer software all of a sudden. And it was just like a module, like a folder, I guess. And it was all Epstein stuff, and it was 14 terabytes.
Woah. Woah. And he he says, look. The they're working to get this Epstein stuff, but there's there's so damned much of it. They're having so many agents assigned to it. They're going into one computer. They're crashing the computer because so many agents are requesting the same information, or not the same, but out of that area or whatever, that this guy told the story about stumbling onto 14 terabytes of information, all dealing with just Epstein. So there they are working on it. And he said from my contacts inside, I promise you, they're working on this, but this is their obstacle. They're just a damn much of it. And then they're taking everybody that didn't assign anything serious and putting them on this Epstein stuff because they gotta go in there. And then when they see these young minors, they gotta go back and trace that, take their name out, make sure everything that happened to document it, and it's a laborious job.
Yeah. So just tell you what, Sharpen. And he's a sharp guy. He's got his own podcast. He doesn't want to go back to the FBI, and he, got fired because he wouldn't take the jab. And but just a hell of a guy, and he was on he was on both of those for at least two hours or more yesterday. Super sharp guy. Wanted to mention it. Cool.
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Well, I'm waiting for Kash Patel to really get his ducks in a row and start filing complaints with the Department of Justice. And Okay. Well,
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here's what he said was the situation there. He likes both of them. And he said, traditionally, the, director does not really lead the the director's out doing appearances and this, that, and the other, and the person that's really running the show is the assistant director. Okay. But, usually, it's always been people who have been promoted up to those positions or that position because of their time in the in in agency, and they know all the all the tell tales and how to do stuff just right and what to do. There's a lot of pride and historical, stuff in the agency.
But this is the first time they've ever brought somebody in in that assister a system assistant position that doesn't have that FBI experience. And he said that really may cause some confusion till they get it straightened out or whatnot. But this is just these inside tips and views coming from a guy that was a special agent and, knows how everything works over there, and he still got connections, and he's laying all this stuff out. It would it's it's worth going back and listening to some of it, actually. But you probably find it cut down where where he lets Sarafin talk mostly.
But, anyway, it was very entertaining yesterday. I was thrilled to watch it. A great insight. Waiting.
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That that doesn't normally get. You're waiting. That doesn't withstand the fact that, and and, you know, we're still only into, you know, March. Right? So we would got three months of of people getting settled into their offices to to start, you know, working, basically. But Yeah. You know, I'm kinda like holding my breath and seeing, you know, well, look at Comey. They asked Comey to decide whether they wanted to to, press charges against, Hillary. You know? And he said no. So the the director can do whatever they want. Oh, goodness. And if they wanna if they wanna go to the Department of Justice with Bondi and file a complaint with supporting affidavits and supporting evidence enough to the point where she can go get a grand jury to send down an indictment and have that person, have the indictment go before a judge and the judge signs a warrant, you go arrest that person and start your case, I think that could be done right now.
But again, there is a procedure that they gotta do to to go to the Department of Justice and file their criminal complaint.
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I I have no doubt, and I think sheriff voiced an echo that that is on on on on ongoing right now. Right. So Right. Anyway, it but it may take a little while because we have got the extra duty, if you will, to do it correctly. The the the the commies could get away with not doing it correctly like they have been for the last four years, but we don't get that grace period.
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Yep. Well Roger?
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Yes, sir. Who's that? You you brought up,
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mister Epstein. I saw a great meme, and it had his face on it. And it said, raping young American girls to bribe American politicians. And I thought that was just a quick, great understanding of the compromise that Israel has completed over The US political establishment. I don't know if you remember during, nine eleven, but, I forget the reporter of Fox News, but they went into how Israel compromised the telephone, system through Amdocs, where they knew exactly. And now we have mister Goldberg being let in on signal, app here that's they're trying to blow up and put in, the doges and Trump's face and the executive cabinet.
And I just find it quite a, charade and, a setup, basically.
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Well, I thought the little guy that's accredited would let him into that group, and it's a Jewish name. I can't remember which one he is. That guy well, right there, I'd, would I'd be researching him. Right. But, yeah, somebody let good that Goldberg guy in. But now, in all honesty, there were no classified documents in that session that he was included in. So Right.
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Right. I understood that. But if if you try to blow it up
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and make a trade out of it. Well, of course they are. They're gonna do that with anything they can. That's who they are. Beautiful. Well, that's who they are. They're just yes. They're just schlemills. Yes, sir. Is that Samuel?
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Yeah. You know that, that expatriation act that they passed just before the fourteenth amendment the day before? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That turned into more legislation in nineteen o seven. That was repealed in 1920. And then in 1940, they passed the Nationality Act of 1940. And in the summary here, I'm looking at it. And, here, let me just read you a first sentence here. Summary of provisions. Title one. Definitions and general provision definitions. The act defines key terms used throughout this document, such as United States, citizen, and national.
And it goes on, and this goes on for quite a while.
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Yeah. You know what? When I've seen that ever, I've never looked past the first couple of definitions. I've never read a word of it. I didn't have to. Go ahead.
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And why is that?
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Because when they said a national owes total allegiance to a small s state, I knew exactly what it was saying. That that national was a state citizen.
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This gives you a historical contact and impact. It gives you, notable revisions of the case. It talks about, people that are born here, people who aren't born here. It's all about the legislation that you're gonna talk about right now, basically.
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Okay.
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Well, you know, if you dive into that, that's your deal. I want I want you to. You know? And, yeah, it's very topical. And it's a wonderful word with some of the few people that really understand this thing. Those thing, folks, even mister Eastman, thinks he does, but he really doesn't understand it totally. And it's totally and accomplished as he is.
[01:37:07] Unknown:
Title one talked about the citizen and the national. And then title two, it's it's nationality at birth, citizenship by birth, defines who is eligible for citizenship through birth, including those born in the Continental US, its territories, and abroad. I mean, it it's pretty detailed the way it looks. And this has probably been revised. I'm not real sure about that, but but it's been tweaked. It's not been, like, repealed like the nineteen o seven and the 1920 version of the expatriation act.
[01:37:43] Unknown:
Yes. It was. It was, it was a very little slick slide of hand here right at the start of World War two, just like they ran through the United Nations when World War two was happening. They used those distractions for these really important deal, and they either put the hook at the front or the back. Either as I as, by operational law, that's the one at the tail. And whatever it is, they're always putting the hook at the front. Here's a perfect example. Nationality Act of 1940. Before they ever even say a word at the act, there's about seven or eight definitions there. Definition a, a nationalist total allegiance to a smallest state.
Right there at the very first is the hook. K? Look, we're talking this morning about 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a right at the start of the code of federal regulations. On the first page at the top right, that's pretty close to the start. You can go over you can just go through these example after example, and the hook's always right at the front. So, obviously, their thinking is that we're gonna put it here because they'll never be looking for it there when they're sitting there with a book that's two, three hundred pages long, gobbledygook, and they think the answer's there.
So they're not gonna be paying attention at all right at the first. All persons born or naturalized. All persons born. Boom. There it is. Right at the first. The hook's almost always at the first. If it's not there, it's at the last. FYI, if, corruption hunters, this is their MO, flashing lights. This is how they do thing, and they do it over and over and over again. Why? Because it's always worked. So they're gonna use it because they're dictated to use it that way because it's always worked. They're predictable. This is an Achilles heel.
Yeah.
[01:40:01] Unknown:
Good stuff. Good stuff.
[01:40:03] Unknown:
I don't know anybody else that's ever observed that, Mark. So, and that, I guess, is part of, you know, what does the good lord say? Above all, seek understanding. Not knowledge, but the knowledge is what gives you the understanding. And and I swear over all these years, the more you pack that brain with stuff is when it starts delivering you answers. All these things I've talked to you about here are just things ideas that just came to me because I had the underlying knowledge. So that's where you gotta learn. You gotta learn it. Your your freedom is directly correlated to how, how much of that you've achieved, getting to the understanding where you can, without even blinking, Michael, defend your position with the IRS.
You know, you might have to think about it a little bit, but there's no hesitation. There's no qualms. You've overcome all that. They've been exposed. And now you've changed, but it's because you had the information that gave you the understanding that allowed you to become empowered, which is what we're striving for all of us.
[01:41:21] Unknown:
Unfortunately I'm telling you, I
[01:41:25] Unknown:
Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:41:26] Unknown:
I'm just saying, unfortunately, most of this is just done through letters. You know, so it's not like you're on the spot, have to make a response unless you're, you know, potentially in court. And again, we want to avoid court. But most all of this is just done administratively through letters.
[01:41:44] Unknown:
Yep. It's nonthreatening. Non confrontational.
[01:41:50] Unknown:
And it's not like you they only give you three days to respond. They usually give you at least two weeks, but more likely, it's gonna be thirty days. Yeah. So you have time to research, reach out to people like myself and others to to get some help. Cool. And, Michael, I I do hope you'll reach out to me about that that payment agreement that you entered into because I may have a way around that. Dan. Dan. It was Dan. Oh, was it Dan in Minnesota?
[01:42:20] Unknown:
No. Dan. That was Michael, but it was Dan that had the the pre agreement. He's up in Massachusetts.
[01:42:27] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Dan. Yeah. Dan, if you had that pre agreement with the IRS to to make payments, please I got a please contact him.
[01:42:35] Unknown:
I got a question for Dan. Dan, did you go watch any of brother Kapner yet? Dan, are you still there? I hope you are. Well, I'm dying to see what he thinks about brother Kapner, so I'll keep bugging him about it. And we got a few minutes left here, about eighteen, seventeen, something. Is there anybody else out there that needs servicing?
[01:43:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I still have another question, miss Michael. Great. Well, great, Michael. Come on. Let's see. I've been listening. I I listen to you all day every day, all morning, every day, Roger. Oh, great. Well, thank you. Every morning. Hey. I love you. The dip what is the difference?
[01:43:17] Unknown:
And let me tell you, Michael, what a joy it is to meet somebody who's been lurking that long and is finally ready to come back. I am lurking. Kind of establish a little bit of a relationship, and it's great. So go ahead.
[01:43:31] Unknown:
Okay. What is the difference between, I send an ROE and I understand the, getting three years back taxes. Right? That's what that's what we're all after. Again, those three years back. Right. I understand that. What have you been paying? But what is the what is the difference between, did you just notice IRS with our notice in the affidavit. Right? And then that ROE, what's what are what is the two difference? What is the difference? Other than the three trying to get the three year? I know one takes you got I know the ROE takes the three year, it allows you to get those three years back. I don't forget about that.
What's in each what's in that document that is stronger or, I don't understand it.
[01:44:21] Unknown:
You mean the the affidavit sent to the IRS?
[01:44:25] Unknown:
No. I don't understand the ROE. Alright. Revocation What makes that ROE so powerful?
[01:44:31] Unknown:
There's a couple of sections in the, regulations there, and I do not remember which ones they are that go over that if you change status, you can go back three years. You can apply and go back and pay and receive back three years that you paid in under the other status. So that's what John and Glenn founded all of this on because it was built into a they had it built into a company where, they charge you $1,500 to go through that weekend seminar, which, boy, back in '92 was a lot of money, and I didn't have it. But I was so hungry for the information that I was going to be deceitful and go through the weekend seminar and ask them for my money back because they said there was no questions asked.
And after that weekend seminar, I couldn't even think about that, Michael, without feeling so guilty. And so I I didn't do it. I didn't ask for my money back. And then we filled out all the paperwork and stuff at the end of that weekend. It was probably about seven, 08:00 on Sunday night after two full days of all this high power legal stuff you never been exposed to. And that sending in that was the revocation of election. Remember that we didn't know anything about the affidavit and the secretary of state back then. If we would've and, honestly, if John wouldn't have been so focused on the tax issue, he they may have figured this out themselves, what I figured out, the jurisdictional issue.
But if they would have figured it out back then, we we might live in a different world today. That's how powerful that is. Okay?
[01:46:25] Unknown:
So are you saying essentially essentially when I when all of us sit or I don't know if all of us have done it, but when when I noticed the IRS commissioner and the other IRS agent, I I did it twice to the Minnesota state, IRS commissioner, and then there was some I I can't I don't have it in front of me. I did it three times. Are you saying that is very that's like an ROE?
[01:46:52] Unknown:
Well, you could call it that.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
You know, you could call it that. I'm severing the ties. Oh, alright. Let let's go back here. You you've really always volunteered into being a citizen of The United States, haven't you? So you've elected even though you didn't understand that you've elected to do that. So, technically, you could call the severance with the IRS on the first round a revocation of election, but we didn't know about it back then. When they were laying this process out, they didn't know about this affidavit and stuff. That's what I'm saying. If John Glenn would have known that, we may live in a different country right now. That's how powerful that was. And that's what allowed the IRS to slam the door on them and because we were only filing the affidavits in the property records office of where we lived or where we were born.
Well, that isn't it. You gotta file it with the secretary of state. We didn't know that. So that's why they slammed the door on us and started doing all those, what were back then, $500 frivolous filing penalties. It's the only club they got left in their bag. Capiche?
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Mhmm.
[01:48:11] Unknown:
So they called the filing for the three past years revocation of election. So that's how I think of it and I see. And label it. It may it it but but we didn't know about the affidavit back then. See? But you could consider the affidavit a revocation of election, technically, couldn't you?
[01:48:33] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:48:34] Unknown:
Okay. So that's where I think some of the confusion's coming from here.
[01:48:42] Unknown:
Thanks, Roger.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
Yeah. But, Michael, go ahead. Try and get this in as quickly as you can. And I'd say get that request for an ROE in it that you may get it. You may not. Depends now on not necessarily whether they wanna send it to you or not, if on whether they're around or not. A lot of people certainly say and including the world be a lot nicer place without those bastards in it.
[01:49:12] Unknown:
That's for sure.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Okay, Roger. I've seen people commit suicide. I've seen them murder people. I've seen divorces, bankruptcies, families being broken up, and and all the results of these bastards right here. Okay, Michael. Any other stuff you wanna jaw about?
[01:49:39] Unknown:
No?
[01:49:41] Unknown:
Well, I I I'm on the spot. I for I forgot what I was gonna ask. It takes me a moment.
[01:49:47] Unknown:
Okay. Well, can I ask you what kind of would it be too much of an intrusion to ask what business you are in as a young farmer?
[01:49:55] Unknown:
Livestock and grain farmer. Livestock and grain farmer. So the the gross income is high, but when you take all the expenses to farm, farmer gets low at net. So when I gotta put my gross income on that OI as exempt, it's it's quite a bit. But when you factor all the expenses and inputs,
[01:50:19] Unknown:
farmer don't make much. Yeah. Well, are you gonna be better off not paying taxes without losing the write offs and everything? Absolutely. That little that little,
[01:50:29] Unknown:
that the little net income I make, and then you take away by having to pay taxes, boy, that really helps the living. Well,
[01:50:37] Unknown:
glory to God for Michael. I think we've improved his lifestyle.
[01:50:43] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, and the other aspect is what gets my brain thing is I don't have to go buy a tractor to try and lower my income tax. I could instead of buying a tractor I don't need, I can spend it on, living expenses or Yep. Some of the farmers out there, they they they they buy equipment, they buy stuff just to play the Uncle Sam game, Yeah. And then they got very little they are low end.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Does that make sense? Yes. Yeah. Because they own the damn tractor factory.
[01:51:16] Unknown:
Well
[01:51:19] Unknown:
Two. So anyway well, hey, man. Say a prayer. Be gratitude. You're out of it. And I know you're still got some nervousness about it. But That's so very oh, yeah. Mhmm. Well, just, you know, try not to be and try and fill that that nervousness with facts
[01:51:39] Unknown:
Yeah. And underpin your position. Okay? And you can look at other people's experiences that have been here. I don't know of anybody who filled out their forms properly that got any blowback from the IRS. They got refunds for that current tax year. Yep. So, now, so far, I've yet to talk to anybody who's able to go back to three years and get refunds. Not saying it hasn't happened, I'm not saying it can't happen, I just have not had anybody confirm that they were successful in that department.
[01:52:15] Unknown:
So, but And that we're not success did you say we're not successful?
[01:52:19] Unknown:
That's correct. Hey Mark? Correct. Hold on, hold on. I'm just saying that that I don't know of anybody who's been successful. Okay? I'm not saying they're not out there, but if you don't at least file an amended tax return asking for those last three years to be refunded to you, then you're certainly not gonna get it. So, you know, you got three years from the filing date of that tax year to request a refund through an amended return.
[01:52:52] Unknown:
Ten forty x. So your students that has used your ROE and that you've helped, that you have not seen any of them get a refund yet because it's No. They're too fresh. They're too fresh as students. No. No. It has nothing to do with freshness. It has to do with
[01:53:09] Unknown:
with are they able to get a refund for the previous three years. Now they've got refunds where they haven't filed a 10 a regular ten forty, like in the position you are. So so last year, you have twenty twenty four taxes you have not filed a tax return on, and you're filing a fresh ten forty n r for the first time for 2024. We've seen people in that type of situation get their refund. But where they've already filed a standard ten forty and then attempted to amend that and file a ten forty n r in place of that standard ten forty, I have not seen anybody get a refund
[01:53:57] Unknown:
for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're not they're not looking at that 10 they're not accepting that $10.40 x to They're not saying anything. They're not saying anything. Limbo. They'll They're just completely silent.
[01:54:10] Unknown:
Yeah. We've got I know Dave in Alabama has has put in for a refund like that. And initially, they just said we need another sixty days, and I think they just gone silent.
[01:54:25] Unknown:
So I can give you an update on that, Mark.
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Alright. Dave. Hey, Dave.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Hey. How you doing? Yeah. So, yeah, I've I've got my full withholdings back for 2023 where I hadn't filed any kind of ten forty prior to that. It was just my, w two and a ten forty n r. Right. Twenty one and '22, I had filed, the x along with the NR and the, previous return. Right. And they bounced it back to me and said, hey. You used the wrong form. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I looked, and I had used the 2023 in our form for 2122, and you gotta remember you gotta remember that each one Yes. Each year has its own form. Well, duh.
And just an amateur, error. So I retracted that. I wrote them back, and I I retracted those. And so I'm still able to resubmit for 2122, and I would assume that that would be successful. I'm kinda pondering whether I want to because 2023 was a nice paycheck. And, anyway, so that's where I'm at with that. And, I just wanted to, give kudos to Mark, by the way, before he the show ends of his him helping so many folks with the IRS piece of this because there's not too many voices who understand this down to the detail he does. And just from my end, I spoke to, like when I was digging into the IRS, I spoke to, like, four or five CPAs, and you can't count on the CPAs. And in their defense, they may know what a nonresident alien is, but they don't they don't know how to connect it to the national status because they don't know what the national is.
Right. So so you're kinda you're kinda barking up a tree there. In fact, when I brought up, hey. I'm a nonresident alien to a CPA, they said, well, you were born in this country. I said, yes. Well, you're a citizen. I said, well, no. Look. You're this have and they just, you know, with their eyes crossed, they didn't know what the heck I was talking about. In fact, and if I may, I did find a CPU who specifically helps nonresident aliens, believe it or not, but it was kinda I would call it the traditional nonresident alien that is under a treaty. They come from another country and under a treaty. Well, that's different than what we are.
In fact, on my forms, I put non not applicable in the treaty section. So but I anyway, I just wanted to make you aware that you trust you have trust and faith in your CPA, but they just don't know this stuff. So that's why Mark's input and his knowledge is so great, with this stuff. And just one more item too. Whenever I have correspondence with the IRS and they send me something, I package up my previous documents with a little cover sheet with each one saying what it is, meaning my affidavit, and that's to Roger's point earlier. I sent them another copy of my affidavit, with its cover letter that I sent to them previous along with the certified mail showing that copy of that and my ROE. So they can't say they didn't get it or they don't have it because they're gonna get it every dang time.
[01:57:49] Unknown:
So but that's all I have. Sorry for taking up so much time. Thanks. Really good points, and I think Julie tried to chime in there. I wanna get back to her. But on thank you, Dave. One thing I really appreciate about Dave on his website, and this is what I I harp on quite a bit, is I wanna put my documents on a silver platter so that whoever receives them at the IRS has everything they need to review my doc or review my documents and and not have to dig up a a computer database to find out what's in it. So and and Dave even goes to the extent he provides his proof, his certified, mail proof that that was delivered and then the document that he wants them to to show, right, or that he wants to show them. So it's very logically laid out and, you know, the cover letter, everything that's referenced, he's got that laid out and, and that's what I preach is because don't count on a government's, what do you call them, lackey.
Don't count on a government lackey to to go to the trouble to look up the stuff that they that they should look up. Give it to them on a silver platter. Yeah. I don't agree. Exhibits to to prove what you put in your letter. If you're if you're saying you're a national, say see exhibit a. Now here's a copy of my affidavit of citizenship evidence. So give it to them as subtle platter. So I guess when we get through the end of the show, we'll we'll go back. I think it was Julie that was trying to chime in. Catch miss Julie. So hang on, Julie. And,
[01:59:31] Unknown:
yeah. Well, that's the whistlers in the background. That means that we signify the end of another one of our two hour sessions together. I wanna thank Michael for after all these years stepping forward and getting vocal and that we we we love meeting, especially a farmer, and and out there trying to increase his lifestyle. Michael, welcome. We're glad to speak with you and have you, buddy. And I bet there's a lot of other folks out there that probably are in the same position, been listening for a while, didn't believe it, and they just hang back there and listen.
It's real. We're real, their faults, and we expose their fraud on how they got this power. Mhmm. And we take it back, and then we empower ourselves like we were meant to be from the good Lord. And they had this little blanket thrown over us at birth and stole the birthright back that they gave away so willingly for a bowl of porridge. We're getting it back, folks. Thank you. I'm glad you're, on board, and, I hope you're becoming empowered. It's quite a transition. And, I've undergone it, and I've seen a bunch of you undergo it right here on this show. So thank you. Glad to be able to offer this to you. We're a tight little band, and we got some real good folks and some real powerful mojo.
So we're gonna lay our body bound, be back tomorrow on the Thursday edition. See you. Bye. We'll let mister Beaner do his magic there. Now we're still being recorded, of course, I believe, on his channel that records all the after shows. Julie, you still with us, I hope, sweetie. Right?
[02:01:22] Unknown:
Yes. I am. Thank you.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Do you have a query for us?
[02:01:30] Unknown:
I I have a question just because I've just been reading and researching a lot. And I was, I know you're probably not gonna want to like this conversation too much,
[02:01:41] Unknown:
but I have to bring you I'll just I'll just leave.
[02:01:44] Unknown:
No. Don't. Please stay here. Please stay here, Roger. So there's a there's a IRS form 56 that notifies the IRS of the creation of a fiduciary relationship. My understanding is that this form is optional. And it it it says, I didn't know, Mark, if you you had ever tackled this because it says note that if the notice of fiduciary relationship is not sent to the IRS, the IRS will simply continue sending its notices, demands, and assessments to the quote last known address of the taxpayer and depend on the taxpayer to forward the IRS's paperwork to the fiduciary.
And, this is basically stating that, by sending the IRS a Form 56, identifies the natural person, your lowercase name, as the fiduciary for the taxpayer, the upper capital's name, complete with a brand new address. And it says our fiduciary hypothesis would be supported if the IRS stopped addressing its correspondence to the all caps names and instead addressed it to the lower caps names. And it goes into your definition here of a person. You know, it specifically says, it's exactly as you've described it to us. It says note that you can be a fiduciary for any and it has quote person. And it says the meaning of a person includes artificial entities like trusts, corporations, etc.
So, it says on here that it's possible for a natural person, your lowercase name to be all, you know, only one letter capitalized to assume a fiduciary relationship to an artificial entity named your all caps name. So, named your all caps name. So, so they're talking on here That's Patriot Mythology. Wherever you got the source of that
[02:03:39] Unknown:
is Patriot stuff, and it does not apply to a national. That's people that are still trying to dance around with the IRS and The United States not knowing what a national is. So they're looking for every way out to separate themselves. They're using their all cap name and their lower case name and thinking that some type of relationship, but it's not. It's not.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
Is the straw man having a seizure over in the corner?
[02:04:10] Unknown:
Well, he's dancing around because he's really stalking his. My straw man loves this kind of stuff. Julie's being detrimental to the straw man's health. Yeah. He said now now to make it complete, when you find it, you need to put a 2¢ stamp on it and and your thumbprint in red ink and then sign across the stamp and then make sure in the upper right hand corner that that you have a picture of The US flag with gold fringe on it.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
That that completes it. And and no. No. It's not complete until there's an owl sitting on the flag.
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:04:55] Unknown:
Okay. I'm sorry. I
[02:04:57] Unknown:
I got off the rack here. It doesn't apply. It could have been Does not apply at all. That is that is patriot mythology looking for ways to separate you from the IRS. Right? So this doesn't apply to a national, that's that's way off in the weeds and unfortunately, we got we got patriots out there, p a y triots, p a y triads that are, you know, asking for money for this kind of information. And this is what I love about Rogers' information. It's so simple. It is so liberating. It's so empowering. And you are free once you wrap your mind around how simple this is. Yep. You can do away with almost all of that Patriot baloney
[02:05:45] Unknown:
because that's what it is. And switch. It's basically a bait and switch.
[02:05:50] Unknown:
You're welcome, Julie. Everybody's looking for another solution outside of what Roger's given them, and you don't have to do it. You don't have to do it. It's not necessary. And it's not just for you, Julie. I'm just the listening audience in general. It just amazes me how many people hear Roger's message, and they're still looking for some other magic bullet. Roger's given it to you. Affidavit of citizenship evidence is your ace. Literally, affidavit of citizenship evidence is the acronym for ace. And Right? Don't what? Yes. It is.
[02:06:29] Unknown:
Your sleeve, and almost nobody else understands it. That's good, Mark. I hadn't thought of that before. Mhmm. Yeah, man. I mean, I kept trying to hammer it on rinse. I hammer it into y'all all the time. Michael, who what who you are, what set of laws you live under is your choice, not theirs. If they say, Michael, you gotta live under these sets of laws here, they're open tyrants, and they'll never be that. They'll always have plausible deniability or some set of these nebulous regulations behind them, tricking you and backing them up. Well, they don't have that anymore. They've been stripped of that.
[02:07:06] Unknown:
Yep. Roger, you know what really tends to seem to back them down really quick is when we respond yes. Exactly. Exactly. If you're telling me I have no other choice but to be a US citizen, then you're in violation of the thirteenth amendment against slavery.
[02:07:27] Unknown:
Now get this from Jones. I put in parentheses,
[02:07:30] Unknown:
involuntary servitude.
[02:07:32] Unknown:
You know, they were trying to take, say, they own Jones's name out of these court things. And they can and he came back and tried to use that defense, and they came back and said Jones didn't have access to the thirteenth amendment. How about that? There's your answer, Alex. There's your answer. It's right in front of you. You didn't see it.
[02:07:56] Unknown:
You know, we need to get about, I don't know, about 10 copies of your book and send it down there and then have, some letters with, QR codes where they go find some of your interviews. Just click with their phone and boom, go see your interview and see what, see what happens or go down there personally and deliver them. You know? But here's the other thing, Ron. I was trying to buy another copy of your book, and I can't find it available on the book pack. Well, it's not. It's not available. Well, let's get it with somebody else, man. It's not hard. Yeah. Well, I did. I keep
[02:08:30] Unknown:
I I understand. I I had an account with an Amazon just, same day at one time. I can't remember the name of them. But, but people keep saying how they get keep getting screwed with Amazon. I don't care necessarily about the money. I probably need to do that. Here's part of the other problem. Sketch, you, Mike, can help with this, is I don't think I've got the file with the cover in it. I might can go back and look, but I've changed through gone through a couple of hard drives, and it's on there somewhere, but I'm not sure I can find it. But if not, I need to get a new cover for it. I've got the Yeah. Roger was
[02:09:11] Unknown:
It was years ago, I I converted a, I believe it was a Word document that an author out of Texas had put together a book on I don't know if it was recipes, it was kind of like keto recipes, but I put it all together and they never used it but I had it in Kindle format too. So and it was linkable. So they got the Kindle version, they could click on a link and it'd take them to that page. So it's, you know, it can be done and I don't think, since it's electronic, I don't think they charge you a monthly fee to have your books available print on demand or digital through Kindle on their website. It's only when you have a physical product that they got a warehouse is when you start paying a monthly fee.
And then we could and and then also because you've already got it published, you've already got the, ISBN number, you could we could find other print on demand services.
[02:10:17] Unknown:
So Okay. Well, I know I had it with one and, you know, I I I the the this whole project, all I've had is people lie to me and steal from me that were working with me. And the people that set up the girl that did the cover on the thing originally and her boyfriend was, I thought, an old friend of mine. And, they ended up putting it on print by demand over on this Amazon site. And somebody said, well, I got I ordered one, and I got it back, and it wasn't from the book patch. And so we traced that back. I just contacted them, said these people are stealing my work. And Right. It got yeah. Yes, Julie. Anyway, it's been nothing but problems with this thing, and I will not if unless I absolutely have to, go back to the book patch because I will not work with a company that's got that big a piece of crap as the head guy ever ever. I just don't wanna work with them. K? I'd rather have it better than
[02:11:15] Unknown:
yes, George. Roger, remember I'm the one that tracked them back for you back to Arizona. I do. Address. And let me tell you something. They're using print on demand right now. It took almost three weeks for me to get two two two books I ordered, from that site. That's not somebody who has their books in stock. They're using an external print on demand. I published my own book a long time ago. There's so many online places that will do that print on demand way faster than what Book Patch did that we can find for you, and then we can put your book on the main site, the matrix doc. Well, they somebody else found the Book Patch. I didn't know the background of it. I was
[02:11:58] Unknown:
all in it because it was Victor Strovsky, a guy that used to be a Mossad officer. He's a Canadian Jew. He wrote a couple of books against the Mossad. They marginalized him, and that's why he started this. But now his wife has passed. Hold on. His wife has passed. He's in dementia. His daughter is overseeing the company, and this idiot named Steven is running it, doing quote, unquote, customer service. Well, this this guy is just bad news. I've never dealt with anybody as bad at communications or attitude as this guy. They got some other computer problems too, but they've stolen, I don't know how many royal royalties they've stolen from us. I can't get an audit. I can't find out. It's just a nightmare.
K? So when something like that happens to me, what my when something like that happens to me, my general tendency is to just turn my back on it and ignore it. Then that's where I am with this right now. So it should be possible. You you got a team. We we could take care of it. Okay. And so I can't have any of that shit. Okay? There's nothing to any involved with getting this thing up online that I that I'm capable of handling. And I'll tell you right out front. K? So somebody's trying to say something for a couple of minutes. Who is the guy?
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Well, you that I I thought I heard my name,
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involved with the book, and you might be mistaken. I didn't have anything about the book. I thought I thought I heard my name. No. No. You did. I was thinking because you're an artist that you might know something about getting a replacement cover done. That was my fault.
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I gotcha. Well, I I I'd be honored to do a a a, cover for that. But I just wanted to mention to to Michael that, we love hearing you, and we love farmers. And I do hope you're a lunatic farmer just like Joel Skalson.
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There you go. Somebody's Skype drinking.
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Hey.
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I'm pretty sure it's not me.
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Hey.
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Alright. There we go. We won't be here in a month in a few days. Yes, sir.
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Yeah. A little while ago, Mark said, he has not heard of anyone getting there three years back. And I was wondering if you could take a minute to remind the audience, including Michael and any other lurkers, that there is one man. His name is John Garland. If you could just go over that story, like, really quick.
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Well, John, they heard us talking about it one day. Here's what happened. I'd forgotten all about all that stuff. It came up one day. And while we were talking about it on the air is when the idea hit me, I said, well, hell. This is the key to the whole thing. We've got now with the affidavit to the secretary of state. That's why they came down on John and Glenn and shut everything down because we didn't have that bit of knowledge. We got it now. And so I was just talking about it, and John, who's a very sharp guy, took it on his own, did all the research, and submitted and got three years back of big numbers. Okay? I'm not at liberty to tell you how much, but I'm telling you, it's big numbers.
And, so that's what happened. He came and told us about it. And so that's what restarted all this. Okay? Is that short enough? And and then because he inherited a farm and his uncle, he had to go assume his uncle's line of credit, and he couldn't get a banker that had worked with him unless he had three years tax returns. So he had to take that sizable amount of cash and go back and give it back to the IRS
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to get the line of credit. I think it's baloney.
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I don't think So how can the IRS take all that money back when you do an ROE?
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Well, they'll take any money you're gonna give them, buddy.
[02:16:08] Unknown:
You can voluntarily pay them if you want. Yes. You can. We'll have a donation form. You can donate any amount of money you want to the IRS.
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Yep. So, anyway, that's the story that Larry was asking me to get across. Well, that's the only man. That's the Well, hold. Let me tell you. There there's a little bit more to that. What his job was was that he maintained the security cyber shield over the secretary of state website where all the foreign embassies checked in and did business every day. And then when he filed his affidavit, he told them this. It was through a subcontractor. And, basically, it they they one day, he went in to, chime in his credentials. Didn't work anymore. They won't tell him why.
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Yep. I know why. He's an asshole. Who was it? It was a nonresident. Linda? Linda? Lady Linda.
[02:17:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Please.
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As I was thinking of, Trump, hopefully, eviscerating the IRS, how is, folks going to how are folks going to get loans if the requirement is tax forms for the last three years, if that indeed becomes a moot subject.
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Well, they that's with a traditional underwriter, and, I'd say go. You can find other sources of money if that's the case. Well, hold on. Why do you think they want your tax returns?
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Why do you think they want your tax returns? Generally, they wanna know that you're filing tax returns and the IRS isn't gonna come back and put a lien on your house that they can't clear or don't wanna clear, which would be money out of their pocket if you can't pay it. The other one is possibly proof of income which you could go to your bank and show deposits for a year, past three years and show your proof of income. You can get a home loan without tax returns. There are mortgage companies, mortgage brokers that will, do a document loan, like I said, with proof from your bank of what you deposit on an annual basis.
So, you know, if if a bank's gonna turn you down and, you know, for not having three years tax returns and you don't have a filing requirement. I say, look, I don't have a filing requirement. And if they're still demanding or they're not gonna give me a loan without, you know, three years tax returns, I'm looking for another lender. And go to a mortgage broker. Mortgage brokers are phenomenal resources to help you find a mortgage company that will fit your needs.
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Correct. Correct. I agree with you, Mark. It's just that John Garland who's very clever, he had to reimburse the IRS in order to get his three years of tax return.
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With that. Hold it. You're missing something. He wasn't looking for a loan. He was looking for lines of credit.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Yeah. But but even then but even then, I don't understand why didn't he just shows ten forty n r.
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You listen. I don't know.
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Yeah. Me neither. I'm sure we we could talk with him. It's a huge farm,
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and and he, I guess, that dwarfed anything we're talking about here, and he just went and gave full attention to the operation.
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By the way, Roger, real just real quick. I've had people that were farmers that have asked about, would they still qualify for certain subsidies and grants? And surprisingly, nonresident aliens qualify for a lot of the grants that the The US Farmers qualify for. So I was really kinda surprised in seeing that because I was expecting the opposite. So are you Uh-huh. Interesting.
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Dave?
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Yeah. Hi. Paul? Hi. I I know, one of one of my close friends works for a farmer, and everything is line of credit. They don't take out loans. Yeah. They have operating, you know, whatever they call it, but it's all a line of credit. And Yep. Just like, Michael was saying, you know, you gotta buy these guys have to buy new equipment almost every year, and the the equipment's like a million dollars. The equipment's like a million dollars for a tractor. Right? These guys are they got no money, but they got tons of cash to buy stuff, and they got all kinds of toys and and whatnot. Maybe not all farmers, but they got very little, to operate with, you know, because they gotta keep paying back that line of credit with what they make of farming. So it it's a pain.
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There's probably a way around it, but, you know, I don't know what it is. Well, that's a continuous continuous backing of the bank is what a line of credit is Yes. Regardless of circumstances for the most part, and loans are different things. So that may be the difference, lady. And I think it's an important difference in the question and the situation we were discussing. Now, Paul.
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I think it has to something to do with the, promissory note and, them being able to monetize it, sell it to the Federal Reserve just like they do with the birth certificate bonds and all that stuff. I'm thinking that no bank wants to go on the hook for a million dollars to back the guy if they can't run off to the Federal Reserve and
[02:22:09] Unknown:
buy it back. No. I I don't have any idea on how they handle that internally. I just think there's a big difference between a loan and a line of credit. K? I don't think banks loan any of their own money. Well, they don't have money at all. They have you sign a promissory note. They don't loan
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them. And the sticking point is why why do they need three years tax returns? See? So think about this. If they if they do away with the Internal Revenue Service and individuals no longer have to file a tax return Yeah. It'll be a lot of money. They're gonna stop giving out loans? No. They're not gonna stop it. All they're wanting is is to proof of income and know that there's not gonna be a tax lien on your on your house if they loan you money.
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And they wanna keep everybody locked into the system.
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Yeah. And by the way, this AI is regulation. Yeah. This AI is taking over the whole credit system, and they're gonna be able to line up things very quickly, and the computer will determine whether you're a good credit risk or not. Yeah. Well, guess what? The guy they were talking about putting AI over the DC Judges who are replacing the judges with AI.
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Okay. There were several people trying to say something. Larry was one It's Larry and Roger. Roger, I've been trying to get in for a while. Okay. Go ahead, Samuel.
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I just sort of wanted to go back to nationality, and, you know, they they they they they hooked the national to allegiance, yet they don't define allegiance. But if you read the allegiance oath to, let's say, become a citizen, man, that thing sounds like servitude,
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feudal servitude. That's what it sounds like. Well, that's what it is. I I guess it sounds like it because that's what it is. Samuel Larry?
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Yeah. About a week ago, I found, this on a, an actual mortgage broker's website, and it's it's titled Options for Mortgage Loan Without Tax Returns. And there's just there's several options. There's there's bank statement loans. There's profit and loss statement loans. Yep. There's DSCR, which stands for debt service coverage ratio loans. There's asset based mortgages. And finally, there's what's known as a ten ninety nine loan. So there's always options out there.
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May I say something?
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Yes, please. Murder.
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I just wanted to say in in, John's case, the line of credit was he had to take the reins of his uncles, his deceased uncle's line of credit. It wasn't like he was going out and getting some other line of credit on his end. So that made a big difference. And, I guess he still hasn't sued Marshy Moshi Garfinkel for stealing his name. Right?
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I guess not. I don't.
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Alright. Okay. Thanks.
[02:25:18] Unknown:
Alright, Murr. How the chickens doing?
[02:25:21] Unknown:
Oh, I have no chickens. Everybody's died. So now I cater to the wild critters. I got a bunch of big bunnies living around here and birds and stuff. So
[02:25:32] Unknown:
Why don't you go buy you some chicken, some little chiclets?
[02:25:36] Unknown:
Nah. I don't I don't need anybody else. That's that's fine. That's that's over. And, you know, I don't even eat eggs. Right? So I lost my taste for it. Don't you? Okay. Well, that's too bad. Mhmm. No. Nature's fruit food will get there. Tomatoes and sandwiches. Thank you. I'm addicted to lettuce and tomato sandwiches.
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Alright.
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Alright. Well, thank you. Good to hear your voice, and we know you're out there working.
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Mark Anderson show at, the top of the hour on RBN. We're gonna gonna talk about this JFK stuff.
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Oh, Bruce.
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Hi, Bruce.
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Hey. I got an idea for you. Yeah? Do you know the people that have, blood type b?
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No. I don't, don't think so. Go ahead.
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Rabbit meat is their remedy. Oh. They can't eat other they cannot eat any other beef. Whatever it is, rabbit is the only thing they can eat and stay steady. They'll get pissed off at you in a second with with, you eating beef or whatever. Got it. Or whatever.
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That's usually Well, I know. I'm I'm I'm I'm b negative, and I don't I don't eat any rabbit. I have one time.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's b negative. That's right. It was, what's her face In the the murders murders thing in the middle of the nineties there. Both the husband and wife had negative a b, which was interesting.
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So Boy, that's super rare.
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Yeah. Yeah. But I don't I don't, you know, eat any of that stuff. But my big cat, when he was alive, my big 20 pound cat did try to share a bunny with me once. Yeah.
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Well, I'm just giving you what I got from a lady that had vitamin had b type blood, and she would get angry. And and she would actually actually go after her brother and beat the crap out of him. They couldn't pull her off because she just got to eating regular beef, you know, meat. Wow. She can whatever. I know. She got angry. It made her angry. Well, one thing we don't take into consideration
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is all the hormones in the animals and stuff too. And if you ever listen to Tom in Utah, the, No. No. The fact that animals is for higher temperature, and so that's that's why we get clogged arteries and stuff.
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Yeah. But no. That's that's not what she she was an iridologist. Mhmm. Yeah. You got me? She did not know about the vitamin I mean, the Viva, blood type had to eat, you know, whatever I was talking about. Anyway, so rabbit meat is what they had to give her to not go crazy after she ate the meat other meat.
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Well, that's that's good to know. You ever hear of, Marjorie Wildcraft? That's one of the things she she teaches is, keeping rabbits. And at the conferences, she would show how to how to butcher one.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure. It's good meat. It's very good meat. It's a delicacy down here.
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Yeah. It's tender. Yeah. Roger, I gotta go. I got lots of too.
[02:28:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you, Mark. Bye bye, guys. Thank you. Y'all enjoy the after show. Everybody go to the rest of the week. Yep. See you, Mark, on Saturday, bud. If we don't Alright. Thank you. See the rest of you, rascals,
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tomorrow. And, I think Hold up one second here. Robbie in the, Robbie in the chat says that rabbit meat is unclean according to the Bible. She's right. Well, it doesn't fit the Leviticus.
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True. Yep. But it's pretty damn tasty. So and easy to raise for people. You know, if you're looking for sustenance, self sustenance, you rabbits will raise themselves real quickly.
[02:29:32] Unknown:
A whole bunch of them. Yeah. They're they're breeders, buddy.
[02:29:36] Unknown:
Alright. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Ciao.
[02:29:38] Unknown:
Mark, Mark, before you leave, Mark, I hope you discussed the 3,000 j f j f k files that are did not get released.
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I'm not sure just what all Mark has about that, but, we're into this, he was he this was a plan. He wasn't killed. So, you know, but they're buffaloing people. And if you think about it, right, what did he say? And maybe it was a speech writer, but he said, I ask not what the country your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country, and he deserted his country. That was his retirement plan. That was all staged and everything. But, and yeah, Israel was in on it. But, this is also how God works, Ones that have sort of turned over the money changers tables, he's he has protected. We see that with Trump because in his first administration, he, had his energy efficient even exporting gas was down to a dollar 89 right at the pump, and he didn't start any new wars. And, I thought the butler thing was fake at first. I had to show the next day, but by the next week, I've learned more and I don't think it was fake.
But before that, back Andrew Jackson. Right? We know about the two pistols that didn't go off, but then when they examined them, they were fine and Jackson beat the guy with his cane. But, Michael Gaddy did some research and four other times there were attempted, Assassinations of him and what was his motto? I killed the banks. He wanted it on his tombstone and he did kill the banks Of course, they retaliated and regrouped and brought the so called civil war upon us because of that. But and then we have Adolf Hitler who, all the lies about him, but his first two laws were enacted were, no pornography and no interest.
Alright? And so they wrote off the debt and had no usury and that's why they're demonized to this day. But he also lived in South America until he died a natural death on 02/13/1962. So we have examples of this. And Christ actually turned over the money changers tables twice. John chapter two and Mark chapter 11. And you'll see right after he did the first miracle, turn in the water to wine in Canaan, He and his, mother and brethren went up to Jerusalem and, wow. Somebody got champagne? What's going on? That's No. I think somebody just,
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just shot a bunch of whipped cream on their, cappuccino.
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That's what it sounds like. Marco Rubio's listening?
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Does anybody know, the blood type of the because cazarians?
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Oh, I think it it varies, but I think there are a lot of, orange negative.
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Thank you, Mark.
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Yeah. Well, I'll let you guys go. Thank you. I I couldn't resist getting in there to say because the line of credit, we're not just talking about going out and getting a new one. He had to pick up the reins of his uncle's line of credit, so that made all the difference.
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And and, Murr, I'm gonna put in the chat here in a second about the, an article about the 3,000, files that didn't get released. I know you might question him, but I think he has good information.
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Mhmm. Well, like I said, and now, one thing we're gonna talk about that Mark wasn't aware of, we were on the phone and, Vanity Fair article that came out, November nineteenth of last year. And, they had a rehearsal, basically. They filmed Kennedy's death at Hammersmith Farm. Jackie liked to direct movie. And we gotta remember, neither of them lived moral lives. Alright? They both had many affairs. And Jack was bisexual, and so, therefore, he was, you know, rapid fireman, not much fun in bed, you know. But, yeah, there's a whole story there. But his boyfriend, Lynn Billings, even had a room in the White House. But, you know, that aside, there there was all this stuff going on, but this Vanity Fair thing is very interesting. It was in September of sixty three.
And, they basically did, like, a rehearsal and staged it. They had Heinz ketchup, even called it Heinz, you know, as the blood.
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Do do you do you know that Madeline Monroe was a man?
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Run that by me again.
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Do you know that Madeline Monroe was a man?
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I'm not sure what name you're saying there.
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Madeline Monroe. Madeline Monroe.
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Oh, Monroe. Oh, oh, I don't know about that. I hadn't hadn't figured that one out yet, but she was she was a foster child in many different homes, and she was apparently like MK Ultra kind of thing, you know, a sex kitten programming. And, and she was she was hotshot by, a Jewish doctor is, how she died. Yeah.
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She was abstained. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Yeah. Alrighty, guys. I'm gonna go and pretend I know what I'm doing. Nice talking with you and hearing from y'all. Check the chat. K. Let me see what we got here.
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George Webb. Marilyn Monroe was Epstein. That means she's still alive? I yield.
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Remember, her real name is, Norma Jean Baker. Okay? I mean, there's a whole thing going on there. But, actually, a Freud descendant and this doctor, and I'm trying to think what his name, Greenspoon or something. I forget what it was. But, anyway, they were lurking to, take over her estate, and they did.
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Didn't Alton and John sing a song about her?
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Oh, yeah. Candle on the wind.
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And then he rewrote it for Diana.
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Yep. Mhmm. And there were questions about what sex she was too. So, yeah, not bad at rumors.
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You never know with those royals.
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Man, I'll tell you. There's so many. And if you look at some of the wives of the presidents of this country going back through time, like, woah. Some blood shoulders on that one.
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That's pretty neat. I don't know what it's worth. Bush?
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Oh, I don't know. Probably. Who knows? I just and she was supposed to be Crowley Crowley's daughter. Right? Alastair Crowley.
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And so so was Betty White. They were sisters. What? Oh, really? Betty White. Barbara Bush and Betty White were sisters. Oh, wow. Apparently apparently, what I heard, I don't remember where from, but Betty White did the West Coast and Barbara Bush did the East Coast.
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That sounds about right. Because if you get down to the underlying bedrock there, it's a Luciferian brotherhood, and they do have, high priestesses that are in different quadrants. Read this stuff on Timothy Charles Holmeseth, but you can put about anything in that search engine about Jessie Sabota or in the affidavits she's written. She was scheduled and being raised to be the the head mother of darkness, the crone position, and apparently, they have not replaced her. So they'll be hurting. Their hierarchy will be hurting.
Yeah. Yeah. But it gets into mass quantities of sacrificing children and all kind of horrible stuff, and that's what keeps the usury system going, and that's how it has always been, you know, when they were kicked out over there out of Spain. Zarco, who went by Columbus, wasn't just for the money, it, you know, the mammon. It was sacrificing children. And, apparently, Christopher was the name of the last one. And, you know, so Christopher Columbus. But Christians in particular is what they like to do. And apparently, they do one a day, some way or other, child, baby, grown up in, Asheville at Biltmore. You know? And the pedesta art, you see that tile there? Well, that's that pool on the Second Basement.
And that's where if you like I said, Timothy Charles Olmstead, and you can put in affidavits or Elon Musk or whatever, and you'll find that over a two day period, there were five boys, 12 years old, that had to go through this ritual of blaspheming. And, cardinal Dolan is the one that doled out the the rape with the statue of Jesus and a phallus attached and dipped in blood and both anally and orally. And then they were given, injections that kept them erect and, adrenochrome. And there were, you know, naked young girls strapped over there hanging, on the side of the side of that tile pool, and, they tore them apart. You know? Raped them and tore them apart, barely cannibalized. And Golan left because he was glad to see them become men.
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Or is Bruce again?
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Yeah.
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I had a Christmas tour going through the Biltmore House. My wife and I went up there and just to check it out because we were trying to get out of the hang on the get some new, regeneration. And, we spent the night up there and went skiing, and it's wintertime. It's Christmas. It was all decorated for Christmas. Mhmm. And we went to basically the big rooms that they had to show off and stuff, and and they took us down to the kitchen. Now I'm standing there in that kitchen, and it ain't your normal regular house kitchen.
It was a butcher kitchen. Woah. I mean, they had yes.
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Thank you. Verification.
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I'm serious. They had I don't remember leaving. Everything they could do to butcher a a cow or anything. Mhmm. And I'm just sitting there going, what the heck is this? This isn't a kitchen.
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. So anyway
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Thank you. That's really verification. Yep. Mhmm. That's the world we live in. I don't
[02:40:35] Unknown:
I don't know if you you think of Candace Owen, but she got a cease and desist from Mac the Macrons about
[02:40:41] Unknown:
her talking about Macron's wife. Well, yeah. Yeah. I I really have enjoyed some of the series that I watched, things she's done. And she's kinda laid back a bit after shmooly and all that nonsense about you know? But it inevitably, the Jews come up in the other stuff. Right? And, she she even campaigned to be antisemite of the year last year, which she got. And, but she said she grew up, I think, New York in a Jewish neighborhood and and, has a lot of friends there. And they didn't they didn't quit her when all this happened. They, you know, knew her who she really was. And and so, you know, that goes on. But she also did an interview with e Michael Jones, and he always, you know, puts interviews back on his website too.
But, they kept it, out of circulation. And now that it is, it's under a paywall, behind a paywall at her site. So, but they were reviewing Libido Domonandi, the book about, you know, sex as a weapon, really, dominated by your libido. So and she said, every all men should read this. Every every person probably, but I don't have any of his books. I don't know if I'll ever get any. I I do really enjoy watching his, videos and interviews and things. So and reading reading things on culture wars on his website there. So it's very interesting. But there again, I think he, it just seems to me that there's too much emphasis on the corporation, the Catholic church.
You know, it's about Christ. It's not about, you know, because the Catholics very often they have the intermediary. You have to have a priest. You have to have a confessor and all this and no. Jesus is all that. John fourteen six, I'm the way, the truth, and the life, and there's no way to the father but through me. So this is an individual thing. And, and and when he'll, e Michael Jones will be talking and he'll talk about, oh, and that they, you know, broke the sixth commandment. Well, the sixth commandment is thou shall not kill. He means the seventh commandment, thou shall not commit adultery, but Catholics have removed the second commandment, which is thou shall not make unto thee any graven images.
And instead to keep it 10, they split the last one, thou shall not covet into two. Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife. Thy thou shall not covet thy neighbor's stuff. But they took out two because they're making graven images unto themselves. Hey, Mer. Ma'am? Robbie here. How are you doing? Robbie. I saw your post. What's that? I saw your post about the rabbits, Robbie. Oh, okay. No. I was gonna ask you. Did you get that email I sent you about that, that, segment on Alex Jones about the latest, audio, from Lyndon Johnson's, closest friends about about confirming about Lyndon Johnson? What were your thoughts on that?
I don't think I saw that email. When did you send that? Because I know for your email. It's been a it's been a while. Okay. Well I'll send it again. Yeah. Pretty pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the more I learned too, you know, JFK was not killed. Okay? He was shot, and that's why you need to see my god, I'm hit. It's at, IMDB and also on Bitshoot. But, and this was done several years ago. Brian, Dave Brian David Anderson, s e n, and then Mark Anderson joined with him in in this research and is carrying it forward because Brian died 11/01/2022. But, he the secret service heard him say, my God, I'm hit. He didn't expect to be hit at all. Okay? This was his retirement plan, But they did shoot him in the shoulder, and it was apparently Robert Oswald, brother to Lee Harvey, who was a crack shot. Right? And he actually used the Mauser, not the other rifle that they actually talked about the other rifle before it even happened. You know, one of those things jumped the gun like they did on 09:11 with the Building 7.
That's a whole another topic. All those buildings came down, not just three. Yeah.
[02:45:17] Unknown:
Hey, Murph. This is Jesse.
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Hey, Jesse.
[02:45:20] Unknown:
That was a great interview, the German, 96 year old.
[02:45:25] Unknown:
What one?
[02:45:27] Unknown:
The one that you did an interview to the German guy. Oh, thank you. 96.
[02:45:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Interesting. Poldy. Poldy. Yeah. He's he plans to publish a Bible, Leopold's Bible.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Where he corrects me last week. I would like to look at that Bible.
[02:45:43] Unknown:
Me too. Me too.
[02:45:45] Unknown:
But he's pretty short for '96. To have somebody still he's very interested to hear somebody still alive from that time and from your perspective. And the other gentleman they called was also interested.
[02:45:57] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. David and then James. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting all of that. I thank you for noticing. Yeah. And listening. Yeah. I really that was, yeah, really enjoyed that. Yeah. But his, you know, opinion, it's much like boy scout camp, Hitler youth. You know, there was always something to do and they were kept busy doing whatever field of work they were in and, you know, some drill team type stuff. And but, you know, no drinking or smoking or, you know, any of that stuff. That how in the world do you turn around a whole country, a society when it's been like Vimerica is right now?
[02:46:47] Unknown:
It's so funny. It's so funny and so sad that supposedly, they're dominating all these terms. And what are we doing to our kids? We need that system here.
[02:46:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Really. Really. And they're still guiltifying. You know, they have that that treaty from 1949 secret treaty that, Germany is a vessel of this country until 2099. And people don't realize that at all. What are what are they doing in Germany? You know, well, they're doing whatever we make them do. And, of course, we're doing whatever Israel makes us do. So there you have it. Okay. I guess I better go and see if, Julie over there at RBN got my message in the Skype. Hope this goes off alright. And I talked about this too on, Blackbird Snack Shack. He had me on Saturday night, and I saw in Brissom's Block Spot that they had you know, they keep carry his Snack Shack. And I thought, oh, look. There's five comments, and most of them were from one person, and they were all negative. I'm like, oh, never mind.
But you'll get that. You know? People don't wanna be disturbed with the truth. They wanna trust their government, sadly. Like we know here with the nationals. Right? We know kinda all about that stuff.
[02:48:23] Unknown:
Well, Murr, look how long it took us to wake up.
[02:48:27] Unknown:
Right. Right. And and there's so many and that's what they say. I mean, it takes, like, seven to 14 times to hear about something, and it has to be from different people and not anyone you're close to before it really registers. You know what I mean? I mean, that's how and we're so impressionable, and we don't even realize it. I mean, you really should never have a television set at this point. Never.
[02:48:52] Unknown:
You know? I mean, you can see what find whatever you need to see on the Internet and just, you know. In in my case, twenty years ago, I tried to tell some family members and friends and whatever, like all of us, about the pharmakeia, about the corruption, and everything that we know. Right. And they thought that was crazy. Now they call me twenty years later, and they forget when I used to tell them. And now why? You heard what is happening? Our food supply is all messed up. Look what the, Trump is doing.
[02:49:21] Unknown:
Yeah. But they told to call you. I do. Yeah. In the back of their mind, they know they can trust you because you told them, but but you didn't get angry and walk away. You're still available.
[02:49:34] Unknown:
Well, some some didn't wanna talk to me because I tried to tell them, explain to them with facts and not but it's just just funny. You know? Twenty years later, fifteen years later, they just, they get so excited to me. So, okay. I already heard that news many times. Okay. I'll I'll try to hear you, but it's fine. But I guess it's better late than there if people are waking up in in certain areas.
[02:49:55] Unknown:
Well, you know what? There's only two kinds of people in the world, believers and nonbelievers. That's what it boils down to. So you can accept truth when it comes to you and you can be peaceful about it. And not that you don't expect suffering because you'll have more suffering probably than the average bird, but, you know, you look to see why. You know? What what am I being shown here? What is he showing me that I need to know? You know?
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Hey, Merv.
[02:50:24] Unknown:
Ma'am?
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Hi. I've never heard you before. My name is Julie. How are you? Hi, Julie. I've I've I've been lurking I've been lurking on Pod Homes, so I've heard you a couple of times. Oh, I love, what you had to say. I missed a couple of things. What did you have to say about, Trump? It's it's just all part of the same establishment is my opinion. Is that what yours is too?
[02:50:48] Unknown:
Well, it's not that cut and dried, just like any of us. You know, God works through all of us. I mean, if you look at Nebuchadnezzar and you really see that when he when Trump put that thing on his social, right, at the, with the golden statue of himself and Yep. You know, Trump Gaza, like Trump Plaza and who put it together? It might have been something to be against him, so he just puts it up there for everybody to see. And no, he's very imperfect. But look what happened to Nebuchadnezzar. Right? He had that statue. And, for seven years, God put him out the path pastor literally. He was out there grazing and growing talents and everything.
But he did come back to his senses. You know? And and so, you know, there's lessons to learn everywhere and none of us are perfect and we're all being he's working through us whether we know it or not. Even if it's Satan doing something, Satan belongs to God. You know? He says, you know, so yeah.
[02:51:44] Unknown:
Well, thank you. Hey. Hey, Murr.
[02:51:47] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, sir.
[02:51:49] Unknown:
This is Larry in Jacksonville. Do you, do you believe that Biden was a clone? And can you speak on that? And I even heard some some people out there, that that kind of follow the stuff that that you, that you talk about, that even Trump is a clone. So maybe you could speak on those two things. Well, I think they all have doubles.
[02:52:10] Unknown:
That's kind of essential. You know? And some said that the that crash in DC that the helicopter you know, this is probably remotely controlled. You know, they blame it on the woman pilot or whatever. But, I think that was remotely controlled. And they said, that his, his, double was in there. You know? So there's maybe that. And with Biden, now if you watch, Good Lion films on Rumble, Greatest Show on Earth, and it goes through this, salute, with these military that don't have any patches or anything. And, they think, ours, you know, purported in this film. And I think Derek Johnson may have been had something to do with some of that, but, that Biden was killed back then or he died anyway.
And it's been, not so much clones as actors wearing masks, you know, and they can mock the, you know, mock the voice. But the the last one they used was about four inches taller than the one they'd used before.
[02:53:21] Unknown:
Yeah. That's correct, Murs. Murs, Biden received what is the three cannon volley salute at his funeral. That's a, military funeral. I actually was at the inauguration, and what was displayed on the televised vision was not what was reality when I was down there in DC because I was at a friend's house, a huge high rise building overlooking the Capitol. And we were having mimosas and, and bagels and and lamenting over this, the stolen election. And it was so funny because I recorded the whole inauguration on my DVR when I got home. I was like, it was not sunny if there was no sun. That is not that is not reality, what I just experienced.
[02:54:05] Unknown:
Yep. Well And
[02:54:07] Unknown:
yeah. So I I believe that, you know, I I think I agree with you with masks, but I also think that these I've studied a lot on these cloning facilities. That is not Trump in the office compared to 2021. I've seen too many pictures for that to be him. It's it's either a mask or or a or a
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Yeah. A picture. Yeah. Could very well be. And, apparently, Chelsea is known to have some sort of cloning business or service. You remember that Hilda Beast, was shuttering and everything and this large black, secret service, which he never has around her. Right? But whenever it was a clone, it was him. You know, they were it was using like a laser pointer. And anyway, they kept her in the van like a side of beef. Right? And they went where? They went to Chelsea's. Why did it go to Chelsea's? Well and then he had this fake woman that wasn't her at all come out waving and with the grandchild and whatever.
[02:55:05] Unknown:
You know? Well, then you've got the, person who traffics kids called Chelsea Handler.
[02:55:10] Unknown:
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Leamer?
[02:55:14] Unknown:
Yeah. You mentioned Timothy Holdsmith that I don't know if you've seen his latest, but they he has his latest article is on human animal hybrids.
[02:55:23] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. Well, Jesse Saboner talks about that. They actually, operate on in utero and put, like, hooves and snouts on babies and, yeah, that it's just just unbelievable. Yeah. But timothy charles holmeseth dot com and his videos are on bit shoot at the, high command.
[02:55:45] Unknown:
So yeah. I've watched I've watched them all every Tim Timothy Holmes set. Seth, I've watched all those. That that guy is an incredible source.
[02:55:54] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. And and people were always kind of like, are you sure this guy's not a screwball? You know? And, I I guess he can't really help the way he looks, you know? But he's been on this for years and they've been after him for years too. He I haven't read his book. But And then
[02:56:12] Unknown:
Yeah? Yes. Then we have Michael McGreevy or McGreevy who was on Twitter with that, pink pig icon. They suicided him. He's gone. Mhmm. He ran for Congress and he exposed all the pedophilia, and then there's that other guy who exposed all the pedophilia with pence, and they and they poisoned him.
[02:56:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Tory Smith, I believe. And I I played the clip. I filled in for Robert Raybo one night and played a clip from that. Yep. I think that was I forget when that was. Whenever it was. Yeah. So
[02:56:46] Unknown:
me. I
[02:56:50] Unknown:
guess I better get it's I've only got five minutes to see if she's gonna try to Oh, go ahead.
[02:56:56] Unknown:
Yeah. One last thing. Who did you say you believe died in the, recent plane crash between I think you're talking about the, the airliner and the, the helicopter.
[02:57:07] Unknown:
Right. You said that you can see there's a double that died in that thing? Who who's that? There there was that rumor went around, so I don't know if it was true, but, doubled for Trump. One of his doubles was in that in that helicopter. So they say, I don't know. But that you know, some were trying to say, oh, that was fake and everything. But, if you watch Penguin six on Bitshoot, this guy that lives there and he's a photographer and, you know, credentialed for White House and stuff. But, he goes around, Knows the place really well in this Yeah. I know him. I know him and Nancy Nancy Brady and, and Mustang medic, and I see them downtown all the time. Oh, great. Great. So there's a lot to learn from all these people that are sharing what they do. Yeah. You're saying that they're they're saying that the crash did not occur?
[02:57:54] Unknown:
Like, something happened, but it was an airliner
[02:57:58] Unknown:
Well, that was Yoichi Shimatsu. When it first happened, he he had a whole another theory. But, you know, after seeing the wreckage in the water and then taking it out and, you know, that that helicopter blade just chewed that fuselage up of the plane, you know. And they apparently did finally they had a whole bunch of area down there where he couldn't go and but they apparently did finally locate all the bodies. So and that was, a lot of them were, professional figure skaters and children. And they were coming back from, you know, a kind of camp type of thing with that. And, one couple had been Russian professional skaters. And and, thing was they had moved to Connecticut from Russia to raise their son.
And, and they were killed. Now he he's still alive, but yeah. And I I couldn't help but wonder if that wasn't something to do with, some peace type stuff between them and with Trump for Putin, you know, but that never got to materialize. Okay. I better scoot. I'll talk to you guys later. Thanks. Been fun.
[03:00:10] Unknown:
Paul, are you still monitoring the comm?
[03:00:19] Unknown:
Well, did anybody,
[03:00:22] Unknown:
for my interview was.
[03:00:34] Unknown:
This is Rich in Alabama. I was I was trying to find out if, Paul was still, on monitoring the channel.
[03:01:00] Unknown:
I'm saying he's probably out to lunch.
[03:01:04] Unknown:
No. I'm not out to lunch, but lunch is in the grill. Lunch is in the grill cooking.
[03:01:10] Unknown:
My doorbell.
[03:01:15] Unknown:
Whose doorbell? Your doorbell or my doorbell? My doorbell just went off.
[03:01:22] Unknown:
Okay. I'm out.
[03:01:30] Unknown:
Alright. Sayonara.
[03:01:45] Unknown:
Can I
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be? Miss Robbie.
Introduction and Radio Ranch Overview
Global Voice Radio Network and New Projects
Discussion on IRS and Taxation
Listener Questions and IRS Experiences
Nonresident Alien Tax Status
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Political Jurisdiction and Citizenship
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