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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles dives into a variety of topics, focusing on the intricacies of national status and the implications of the 14th Amendment. The discussion explores the historical context of jurisdiction in the United States, highlighting the differences between de facto and de jure governance. Roger and his guests delve into the impact of historical court cases like Downs v. Bidwell, emphasizing the importance of understanding the legal framework to protect personal and business assets. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in legal research and the ongoing struggle for personal freedom and sovereignty.

The episode also covers current events, including the political climate surrounding protests and the involvement of the National Guard. Roger discusses the influence of figures like Elon Musk and Sasha Stone, and the potential implications of their actions on society. The conversation is peppered with insights into the challenges of living under a system influenced by both historical and modern legal interpretations. Additionally, the show addresses the significance of gold and silver in the current economic climate, offering listeners a comprehensive view of the ongoing financial landscape.

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Englishmen   and Englishmen everywhere.   There's another one that ten years after guy, Alvin Lee. Good morning. It's Thursday.   And, it's the Radio Ranch, of course. The date stamp is June.   And,   Roger says your host, and we've got our our English   amigo there on the line here, and we'll   see if we can go on into the program.   Mister Beaner, if you would come out, we'd like to give the other platforms to assist us   in our reach, the proper recognition and credit for their contribution. So that man is mister Beaner that does that. So, Paul, if you would, do the graces.  

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Oh, and we do have a full compliment   today.   Yay. Excellent.   We're on one zero six point nine WVOU   FM in Chicago. Thanks to   the net family of broadcast services. We're also on radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the drink.   We're on eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James. He brings the anchor platform to us.   We're on Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   Links to EuroFolk   Global Voice and free conference call to join us live on the show or on our website, thematrixdocs.com.   But, also, today,   we have the remainder of the platforms for the Net family of broadcast services driven by WDRN production sport Collins Colorado.  

And those are homenetwork.tv,   freedomnation.tv,   golivetv,   and streamlife.tube.   Lots with   a very, very large audience on Stream Life. Couple million people. It's He's everywhere. He's everywhere.   Yeah. Absolutely.   And so and that's everything I've got. As Alright. A matter of fact, I think we got Paul with us, don't we? We we do. And now before we continue in that,  

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conversation, Paul, if you would allow me,   been quite negligent this week. We've had some very important dates that we didn't even hardly recognize much less talk about.   One being d day over there when we ostensibly went to   fight the finest people in Europe according to general Patton.   And,   the of course, is the USS Liberty that   still amazes me out of a fellow of a friend of mine at at in our expat group who's from Louisiana. Grew up in New Orleans.   And, I was asking if you ever heard of the USS Liberty. No. Never heard of it.   Still to this day, you're somebody that's in the air force and all that. Never even heard of it, of course. And the commemoration of that, I believe, was the eighth.  

Isn't it June 8? If I'm not incorrect, I believe that's the day   which should live in infamy, but hell, it's the day very few people unfortunately know about.   When we were turned on by those greatest allies of ours over there and thirty four, 35 people were killed on the USS Liberty. And it was almost sunk yet by the grace of God. The,   the finale that they planned to put it under when they brought a u boat over or not a u boat, a little   a cruiser, a little one of those little fast boats and,   whipped a torpedo on them. And by the grace of God, once again, it hit one of the ribs of the ship and bounced off. It didn't explode and go into the ship that would have brought her down   more than likely.  

And, so I did wanna go back and touch on those things because they both of them should be important to us. We have, Paul English with us today, which is a rare treat from the start of the show here.   And we were, trying to figure out if I'm gonna make up for the missed appearance last week over there. And I think we're gonna do that this afternoon.   Paul, you can facilitate that with me, I hope, because   I'd oh, yeah. I I used StreamYard once, but I don't even know if I've got the program loaded and all that kind of stuff. We can work on that. It's it's easy to get into. I'll not only get you into it, but I'll also put a shortcut on your desktop so you can get into it yourself in the future. Alright. Good. So now that is four to six eastern time, Paul, you said for the for the audience here. Well, I'm on central, so it'd be three to five for me. And, that'll be perfect right in the middle of the afternoon. I was very remorseful   that some, errant Ecuadorian   ran into a telephone pole or whatever the hell they did last week to screw up our Internet for the   whole time of that scheduled appearance. But, here, we're back. We're back.  

And I guess we'll do it this afternoon. Looking forward to having a little social intercourse with you over there, Paul.  

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Me too, Roger. Yeah. We were all very sad last week when that Yes. Ecuadorian maniac destroyed your electrical system. I'll tell you, sir. You can't control them.   No.   No. Well, as I was just mentioning there preshow, although we we kinda jumped the gun. Not that I was looking at my dates. You were just talking about dates then. But,   June,   which is what, three days from now? That's what, Sunday? Sunday.   Sunday   is the eight hundred and tenth anniversary of Magna Carta.   Not that there'll be too much   yelling about it over here. I think there was quite a bit for the eight hundredth. There was. But, but there you go. It's still quite relevant. And,   we had some   came across some pretty juicy documents. There was a thing called the the Winchester   declaration,   which was delivered by a group called the New Chartist Movement in 02/2016,   which had some really great stuff in it, and I've been following them up. I've been trying to get in touch with them to get somebody to come on.  

Believe you me, chasing people up and getting them to respond is   not fun. Yes. It's extremely exhausting.   You just go, look, just pick up the phone and call me and turn up. Let's just get on with things. But everybody's got they've got to go shopping and things and stuff. Look, I'm just making it up. I've not even I've not even made connection with them yet. But, there are these things I've got a sense of urgency sometimes that I don't think shared by others, and it Yes. It kind of irks me a bit. Maybe you feel a similar sort of I do. Thing, but   but I do. I I can't understand why people don't have urgency about this stuff. And,   but nevertheless, they've they've done some pretty good work. And,   yet again, you know, these challenges that so few people are aware of these things that,   that seems to me, as you know, it's my little sort of the bee in my bonnet is to get it to a certain size where it can begin to organically grow,   which is probably just a daydream or a fantasy at the moment, but we keep pounding away. So   but, yeah, that that went pretty well. I can't really stay with you for the entire show today It's okay. No. Because I've got I've got to run off and prep my own. I've got Well, we would we would cover  

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we would cover things here even inadvertently that we need to save for your show.   Yeah. So Yeah. We would. I mean, redundancy. That's what we hear about all the time these days, redundancy. Let's not do that.   No. No. It does have its place. You know, repetition,   breeds learning. So   drill practice rehearse is the only way we learn.   Paul, thank you for the invitation. I look forward to sharing some time with you this afternoon and discussing for your audience. So some of these things we discuss here in Wholesale, Deer, and that are so   unbelievably important, which may not appear so on the surface, but boy, down deep they are. This is their whole power deal.  



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I agree with you. I agree with you. I've got a nice picture of a banker for today's show anyway. I've actually got a picture of,   Lionel Barrymore playing mister Potter from It's a Wonderful Life. It's a Wonderful Life. Lord have mercy.   I know. I loved him as an actor. I used to think he was English, but I checked out he wasn't. But he sort of came across to me as sort of so English in a way, but he isn't. So you can be proud of him. He's a great guy. And he it's, of course, he's not really the true   proper caricature of a banker as you well know, so we just have to make do. But it's, it's quite good. He typifies certain things. How big a nurse, how big a nurse does he have?  

Not big enough. Oh,   okay. Gotcha. It's far too small and tiny. I could barely see it. Where's the What about  

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coded language?  

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Yeah. Nose language. The new nose code amongst white people is terrible. They're evil. You know?   Oh,  

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lord have mercy. Well, good. Thanks for issuing the invite here publicly even, and, we'll, look forward to spending  

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a a couple hours with you and your bunch over there today. I look forward to you. Keeping the same do you have the same crew with the laughing guy and, the guy from the laughing guy? Should be there. Eric, you mean. Yeah. I get it. Eric. Yeah. He'll just tell a lot of fart gags and toilet humor. It's just impossible to stop him. He's like a for a force of nature.   I you know, I can't edit people down, and he's just so buoyant. And he's and he's always got something to say about everything. He's great, is Eric. He's wonderful. So he's the guy that lives out at Fockham Hall,   as you well know. This is the English propensity for double entendres. So he lives at Fockem Hall.  

And,   you know, we have to be we have to be rude and cheeky. We can't be anything else. I'll I'll I'll be sure not to ask any questions about the leading questions.   Oh, I'm sure you will. Don't worry. You'll get drawn in. It's just a whirlwind of double ontonas and innuendos. Once it gets going, it's a shocking state of affairs. There is no way to avoid it.   Okay. There's no way to avoid it, Roger. If you're easily embarrassed, don't turn up because it's gonna get awkward.  

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The the only way you could possibly avoid it would be to limit yourself to only using words that have vowels in them.   Okay. Yes. Or that are made up made up entirely of vowels.  

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It's the only way. Yeah.  

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But,   Paul picture.   The program will be simulcast.   The program will be simulcast on GVN, and it will also be shared to the PPN Radio Ranch chat group. But, Paul, please tell people how to get how to get to your show directly.  

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Sure.   Well, the website for it is paulenglishlive.com,   and there are links to YouTube, which we're still managing to go out over.   That's   I'm wishing be able to maintain well, yeah, because   we're under a certain sort of censorship implications over here. They're not overt, but we understand.   So everybody's briefed to not go full time on certain topics. I don't you know, at I was quite cross about that, but I thought, actually, let's just let that go. The the listeners that understand the score fill in all the blanks,   so that's fine. And the people that don't understand it are not gonna understand it if we go at them directly anyway. This is my kind of take. Generally, they they all get a bit, oh, I've got to get out of here type thing.  

So we're not doing too bad, with that and it's growing quite rapidly on YouTube. I realized just how much more   whether we like it or not, you know, people are creatures of habit. They go to a certain place and if it's not there, they don't bother. I was talking to someone about it the other day and they said, oh, I go to YouTube immediately now. I'm going, why?   You know, I just don't but then I'm thinking it's not down to me. If that's where they're going, that's where I need to be. So we're gonna try and maintain it for as long as we can.   And we're talking really about political things in a way and historical things and,   trying to create a space. It's a bit it's not dissimilar to what you do here in the sense that, you know, I kind of in my mind imagine that we're all actually in the pub. We're just actually having a more focused conversation.  

I've just gotta go. Hold on. I'll be back in a  

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Okay. Well, there you go.   Was that somebody saying something? A female?   I know he's coming in. Oh, it's Paul in the background. Okay. Yeah. That's Paul in the background. Away from there. Well, well, that's a a nice pleasant surprise.   I'll be joining him and the group this afternoon because I enjoy   Paul so much and talking with him. So,   we've got a whole bunch of stuff to talk about right here. Boy, did I get a big theory, a thesis,   idea validated over the last couple of days.  

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You you may Sorry about the disturbance there. I'm That's okay. I'm back. Okay. Good enough.  

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I was just telling the audience I've had a,   a suspicion that I've had for many years confirmed, I think, over the last couple of days,   and that being about the true   personality and actions of one   slimy little bastard over on our side of the pond named   Mark Levin.   Life, Liberty and Levin, you may have. He's a constitutional attorney.   And I I don't know if you and I have ever discussed this or not, Paul, but I I knew,   personally knew   Sean Hannity in Atlanta. We we were well friends at least, and our cross passed there when he got the job. And,   he'd take me out to lunch on his all his trade outs and stuff. And because I had all this radio and broadcast background, background, and he was relatively new to the industry at that point.  

So he couldn't get enough of me. And and, I'd been over to his house and everything and knew when he was the reason Sean had the meteoric   rise that he did   was because Rush Limbaugh's brother was his agent.   Okay?   And I was back then, and they would pull him up from Atlanta to New York and do a weekend cable, obscure   weekend cable shows, and they could check his   veracity with the audience.   And so he passed muster, and they moved him up there, gave him a a big job on, ABC.   The flagship of the ABC network is New York, and he had an afternoon drive show. There still does,   I think. And, the TV show, Hannity and Combs. Well, I I I was sitting at home with her. He'd been up there much one day, and the phone rang on Saturday Sunday afternoon. And and he's going, hey, Roger. Sean.  

I was going, Sean, what what are you doing working? You ought to be off with the family or something. He said, man, I'm working harder than I've ever worked in my life. Well, in those early days is when his sidekick,   Levin,   kinda showed up.   And, with his constitutional eye, a constitutional   attorney. Well,   now we're seeing his true colors. I'd always said on the air that I thought he was,   Hannity's Mossad handler,   which it turns out that he probably is. I don't know if you've seen this, but they're desperately beating the war drums over there.   And, of course, as I've mentioned on here, the Israelis,   they're they're they're, chicken ship high in transit bastards.  

Okay? And so they gotta get The US to go do this Iran dirty work, and they won't do it themselves, which is so typical of these people. Alright? And so the other day, it was,   it wasn't announced or somebody talk about it that Levin   got a audience with Trump and was in there soliciting Trump   on on them going to war for Iran. And,   and now it's even he's back in the picture and all all of this kind of stuff. So I think that probably,   verifies my my thesis that, mister Levin is a Mossad agent   and Sean Hannity's handler. So, anyway, I thought that was, because it's finally come out. I've been saying that for years,   and it's finally come out over the desperateness of these people. Now evidently yesterday, Paul, I wonder if you've heard this. I just heard it on Harrison   Smith this morning before we joined you guys.  

You know, Netanyahu's got more problems than a Chinese trigonometry   teacher. You know that. Right? I mean, he's got problems with the they're trying to dissolve the Knesset.   They came close yesterday or day before   with the Orthodox faction because   Netanyahu   is trying to enforce,   the draft basically on the Orthodox,   and they don't wanna go fight. It's against the way they view the religion.   And so,   he's on trial for all this other skullduggery   and and and things and no telling what all.   And he gets into an hour into his testimony yesterday or day four. I think it was yesterday, and he got sick. So, well, we had to call the doctor and stop the trial because mister Netanyahu was sick on the stand   probably when it got to an area of some really,   really, really sensitive   questioning. He's got two big billionaires that he's   I just heard this a minute ago. Two big billionaires that are somewhat affiliated with this, proceeding.  

One of them is a is a Australian billionaire   that does not have a Jew name.   But the other one is the guy that got them is, credited, I guess, with the smuggling   the fuses out for their nuclear program for the nuclear bombs. Milchan, I believe, is his name. He's a big Hollywood   creep.   So both that's what that trial is over and probably other things too. So, those are a couple little catch up to date on our, on our buddies over there. The ones that want to, bring bring the light to the world,   the light of a nuclear explosion. They don't tell you that, of course.   But, that's what's going on. So you got anything on to read on that, Paul?  



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No. I didn't. All that was new to me. Sorry to disappoint. It was, actually. I'm not I I'm not sort of on that   sheet news wise. I don't I'm actually not gleaning much news. I've sort of got my head really sort of still in historical books and things like this.   Although what you say doesn't really surprise me. I am getting poorly.   Oh, poor poor Benjamin.   Hey.   That's that's really quite sad.   I mean, what we've got going on over here is being lectured by,   some ex Ukrainian minister that,   English mothers must get used to their sons dying to fight against Russia. I mean, it's just it's bizarre. Oh, I hate that. They actually print these things in the Daily Mail and stuff. And you just look at it and you're going   and what I've had a a few exchanges with people. They said if you don't do this, NATO's finished. So I think my comment was, oh, well Yay. NATO's done then. Okay. Bye. What a good You said. But but, yeah, someone responded   in a just another thread. It's not in a major place. It's just saying that they weren't so sure because they thought people were so completely hypnotized   that they were and, you know, I've got to admit that there is that aspect to it. There's a   the fog,   it's not even the right word to describe it. The sort of the unwillingness to really   look at the issue   among certain people is almost permanent, and it's,   that's the bit that continues to really   unsettle me. Yeah. It's a bit like, you know, being surrounded by not all people are like that. And there was a discussion, you know, that thing about mass formation psychology,   which is very true, all of that stuff that came about around the COVID stuff Yeah.  

Is that I think it breaks down that roughly thirty percent of people are completely unreachable.   Another thirty percent   are absolutely   got their eyes open and are looking. You'd include us in that.   And the middle ground, the forty percent, is the bit that we're we're scrapping over. Oh, okay. And it's to try and seduce or whatever word you wanna use or to bring that forty percent into a condition where   they they choose to not go to sleep. And I think it's it's important. We we've got   there's no   there is very little logic in anything that's being communicated or managed here nationally.   They And the fury over here with regards to the the political class is off the charts. It's all overpriced.  

Yeah. It's just   and it's all downplayed as if people are just slightly crossed. Slightly crossed is really serious if you're English. If people get a bit cross, it's really we're almost going to DEFCON three. It's a bit like what? People get  

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they get a bee in their bonnet about stuff, and it needs that fired, in my view, needs to be Stokes. Long overdue. It really does. Yeah. It is. It's it's long, long overdue. So Thank you. Anyway, we'll see how it goes. Well, they continue to shoot themselves in the foot. And by that, I mean, they they always morph into the snake eating its tail symbol. You know, as they get their lies and everything, bring them to a point and they start to get exposed and they got to do some more lying and the people know they're lying the time and it exposes them. So that is their habit   of Hudspa pushing the envelope. We'll get this,   you know, here we've got the new election and we got the new,   all these officials in there. And then we've got all these crimes that everybody knows happened. You know, the jailing of all the Jan six people and all the crap that these, communists did when they were in control. Right?  

And so now we've got all these riots breaking out, you know, all over the place in LA and and planned for all over the country, I guess, Saturday, the day before,   the commemoration of the Magna Carta.   12:15   on the fields Of Runnymede.   But get this. Guess what? Pam Pam Cabondi comes out. She hadn't done anything with Epstein. She hadn't done anything with any of this stuff, really.   They got a couple of Tesla   scratchers   off for forty years.   Yesterday,   she gets on Fox News,   and she's railing on a cafe   that is,   won't serve Jews   and has cooked up a new coffee   that commemorates something or somebody.  

And she's sitting there on Fox News come absolutely expanding all that. Can you believe they made a coffee name, Paraiba, blah, blah, whatever it was? And,   boy, all these other things, and here's Bondi. Well, we know who's pulling her strings. And once again, anybody that can connect two dots   knows who's pulling the strings, and it shows to me desperation.   These people are really desperate. They're really getting exposed big time, and they know it. And that's why they had another,   they had another bill on antisemitism,   passed the house the other day, and it was like,   whatever.  

Two 356   to two. Well, one of the two was Marjorie Taylor Greene.   And she comes out in a public statement and says, but she's only been in congress a couple of terms. Okay?   She's this is the 20   anti Semite bill I've voted on since I've been here.  

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It's just it dominates the process. Doesn't the whole of the communication space   gets crammed, rammed full of things that are of and level importance. They're not important. And it's avoidance and they're always dramatic, these things. And they always have to have a lot of emotional   communication around them. And they manage to take over the airways for three or four days, And then they go, well, that one's exhausted. Now we'll do this one. So that you can never it's like being at a meeting or something and you wanna get to the actual issue, but you can't get to it. And then this has been going on for hundreds of years, it seems. Yeah. It's a permanent communications attack.   And people just go, oh, this is very important. Let's just deal with this No. Let's not. Let's forget all these. These are not minor issues, they will say. No. They are. They're minor. There's some fundamental things. The foundations of the building are rotten. I'm not bothered about what color curtains you wanna put up. I'm not we're not interested in these these other details. Can we sort out the building? But, of course, if no one's willing to talk about it, they won't talk about it. And it's it's a problem. And they'll only talk about it, the ones that are controlled on one side, of course. And that's what made that so glaring yesterday to me.  



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And, you know, they continue to do that. All they do is continue to expose themselves to the masses. They are their own worst enemy,   and, they are in the process of eating their tails. So it's kinda like, what did Napoleon say? Don't interrupt your enemy when he's in the process of defeating himself or something of that nature. A mistake. Yeah. You're right, guys. But, that's what they're doing. Yes, Paul?  

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What they're doing is they're they're following the old advertising   game moniker. Yes. Yes. If they wanna keep   if they want to keep their agenda moving, they have to keep it visible, and they have to keep reminding the people   of all these things that are horribly, horribly wrong. And they're they're just trying to whip up dissent is what they're trying to do.  

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Yep.  

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Well, they're trying to cover their tracks and misdirect and all the other little tricks that they use, but it's failing on them. And I would have to go back to the interview I saw years ago, part of it with the the late and great Eustace Mullins,   who,   said   God was merciful on us and he gave us the Internet.   Yeah. There's a lot of truth to that right there.  

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Well, they gave us the Internet. They screwed up because they were they were so shortsighted. They had no idea what we would do. Well,  

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Newt Gingrich,   the speaker of the house at the time wrote a and I lived in his district in Georgia, not too far from his office. And,   he, wrote a forward to a book called The Turning   by the Tofflers,   I believe,   married couple.   And in that, he laid it out and he said, this Internet thing,   you're making a big mistake because it avoids your filters.   And they're in there, you know, but it's gonna control everything. Hotspot. Hotspot. So they continue to go on, and   now it's turning around to bite them in the bottom  

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as they'd say over there in your part of the world on the bottom, Paul. Yes. And bite them right in the very bottom in the heart of their brains, really. So Right. Right. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. It's Call me. Well, we there's still much for us to do, I think, and there are all sorts of people doing things at all sorts of levels. And,   if people just keep pounding away,   why not? I mean, what else are you gonna do? That's why I keep thinking, oh, I can't think   pound away, and then we're just we'll get breakthroughs at certain points. There's so many things that they are going quicker, as you say, and they are making mistakes.   But it's also kind of a a more alarming time because you people, even normal people, begin to sense they're completely out of control. We Yep. We have a situation over here where   the caliber of the individuals involved in the government   is so low. Oh. It's they're so   I mean, mediocre is to praise them. They're not even that. No. It's   it's a   disaster's the wrong word because it's planned this way. We've been furnished with goofballs intentionally.  

Nearly everybody that's involved in the cabinet over here, none of them have ever had a proper job. They don't understand business at all.   We've just I've got to look into this today, but apparently, there's some new budget that's been announced, some great big spending splurge where they're gonna spend £2,000,000,000,000.   And, of course, I look at these things and go,   well, why don't we just create that money ourselves? Because this that aspect of the discussion will never come up. And until it does,   this sort of circus   will go on, and they've managed to have it go on for hundreds of years. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess it's because, you know, people immediately next to the trough, oh, well, you'll get paid Oh, well, we're all for it then. And that's as far as people tend to see. So   we we have,   and we've had a thing today. You know?  

Nigel Farage's party reform   is turning out to be exactly as we knew. It's a complete joke.   They're looking probably to sub to supplant the conservatives. Somebody's gonna organize this so the conservative party dies for a bit, and reform will become the alternative to the Labour Party. But they've had their spokesman or their home secretary   say yesterday, and I'll be talking about this tonight,   that this country, England, is built on immigration.   It's just insane.   We're dealing with people that basically will say anything. There's no logic behind any of it, and yet it gets such traction,   and it's this repetitive power of it. And because people it seems to be huge numbers of people don't have the capacities   to exercise their own critical thought.  

They're not falling about laughing enough. I fall about laughing, then I look around and see that everybody else isn't. And then I get worried. I'm going, good grief. People are swallowing this nonsense. It's non stop. Yeah. So,   you know,   Farage is not   the the knight in shining armor. He's useless in my I'd love to go and have a beer with him and I laugh. But as the leader of a political party, he's a complete what they call it, he's a Trojan horse. I will. And that's what he's been put in there for. I I like him so much from his public persona. I really want. Yeah. Me too. He's he's he's legit, be real, and  

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all that. And I keep getting these indications   that's not the case, and it, disappoints me.  

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There is no political solution other than the oversight. I came to that conclusion a long time ago. You know that. I know. But you have to watch what they're doing. They're interfering with all our kith and kin all the time. We keep swallowing this stuff. I mean, that's the main thing. You know, my my thing would be to get everybody to literally not vote. I was trying to plan something out.   I can't remember what it was in the last election, but something like 18,000,000   people didn't vote at all.   So I decided in my own mind that they'd voted for me. I didn't mean that literally. I'm just saying what we need to do is we need to corral the nonvoters and form so I have this little thing called the political party that does not exist, but that you may wish did exist once you've heard what it has to say. And because it's not a political party, of course, you can't vote for it, which is good. I don't want you to vote for me. I don't want you to vote for anybody. I don't want you to vote for any parties at all. Why would you think it's going to change just because you voted for a political party?   So   it's difficult as well because in the end, I I go, well, what kind of tow bags have we got? Like, you know, what are the points in the kit? There's only a couple of things. Really, there's a couple of thing there's two primary things. One, as you know, one for me is the bank, and the other one right now for us, of course, is unbridled,   unwarranted,   and immigration, which nobody here ever consented to. We never gave our agreement for this. No. And   they can't talk about it or bring it up because   the plan is to, you know, undermine and destroy the culture in every way and to demoralize the people, and it's very effective at doing that.  

And if no one is gonna have the courage to speak out about it,   and that we can't rely on politicians of it because they'll lose their career. That means they don't get paid and they can't keep payments up on their mortgage. So, you know, it's just logic when you look at it. Why are you paying attention to these people? They can't help you. They just keep saying they can, but they never have.   And so this new guy that they've dropped in in the reform party,   it was a complete fruit as well. I mean, he's just a joke.   And, it just comes out with this nonsense. Oh, yeah. This country is built on immigration. No. It's actually the complete opposite of that. It's being destroyed on immigration.  

Right? And, we don't need anybody because that these are the arguments they use over there. Well, we need all these people to staff all these things. We go, no. We don't. We don't need any of them.   And, not that I'm a Guinam or forum, either way. But what it's doing is it's running the actual   indigenous people down into the ground, which is obviously what it's intended to do. Yep. So that that strikes me as being extremely racist, you know, to flip it around, which is which is correct. But yours and Ireland's and all those countries' pension funds are so down that they need these people  

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to come in and bolster the pension funds, and the thing they do is get on get on welfare. They don't go get a job.  

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No. No. They don't. And they don't. They're taking over I mean, there's been some house burning in Ireland, recently because of a Oh, yeah. A girl that was raped by two young migrants and everything, so they just burnt their houses down. And I speak to people, they go, oh, well, this is awful. I'm going, it's unavoidable.   Yes. But they haven't read history. I mean, you do know that this is unavoidable now. We're being pushed into this situation.   And, it could easily be relaxed if the political class could tell the truth, but you can't they never ever will. They can't do that. But we're trying to force the truth. The political class.   Yeah. So   anyway, look, Roger, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. It's been great.  



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We've chilled the soil pretty good. There's some earthworms, some nightcrawlers right there on top. If we grab them, we can go get us some fish.  

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So Yeah. I'll look forward to baiting the hook with you about, 03:00 central time this afternoon. Look forward to it. Have a have a good rest of I'll be tuning in while I post around and make notes and do things. But thanks for having me. I look forward to you complete it goes out on Eurofolk Radio as well, does the show as well. So anybody that tunes into that, we bomb it around wherever we can, but that would be great. So I look forward to Sure. Sure. Always welcome and appreciated here. So, we'll look forward to seeing it on your side over there this afternoon. And, again, thank you for the invite.   Wonderful. Alright. Yep. Brilliant. Alright. Thanks, Paul, for setting everything up. I'll be in touch later. Yep. Have a good show, Roger. See you soon, Paul. Bye for now. See you in a couple hours. We'll have some Yep. Rich discussions over there with our buddies across the pond.  



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So back here on our side of the,   of   the Earth, El Mundo. Yes, Paul?  

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If I could put my form of icing on the cake and Yes.   The last discussion.   This is sour cream. Those who make peaceful revolution   impossible   make violent revolution   inevitable.  

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Yep. That's mister Kennedy said that.   I always the one I like that gets obscured quite a bit.   I keep it pops into my mind as I'm seeing all these things,   news stories covered on TV,   like the Pam Bondi incident. To know who rules over you, look to who you cannot criticize. That was mister Voltaire.   He also said something very important to Voltaire   that is right up our alley here. And he goes, before we discuss, let us define our terms.   He understood   what they were doing. K. You can tell by that statement.   So good morning, audience. They're a little,   respite with Paul, our buddy. Looking forward to that this afternoon. It's always interesting.  

I just like Paul so much personally. I he's one of the   just one of the most enjoyable people I think I've ever worked with, really. So I always appreciate our interactions.   Our show over here, which is directly attributable to Paul and his efforts where we can get into these   long two hour conversations with no commercial interruptions so we can dig deep into the details of their skullduggery   as possible, made possible by Paul English also. So give him proper credit.   However, our show is for us and,   people in the rest of the world, we can give them some pointers and and point them off in a direction, but none of those other countries have these clear cut to political statuses that we can delineate and and, and and   show you how to get on the one you're supposed to be in you wanna be in.  

So, if, if there's any new folks in the audience this morning, god, because the show's for you, for people with questions,   We can talk, sit here, talk about enjoyable conversations about all kinds of things and issues.   But, really, the heart of the show is for the new folks so that we can clear up any, ambiguities,   and there's a lot of ambiguities in this scam,   for you. So if there's anybody like that, please,   unmute and step forward, and we'll give you a to do that. And if there's none of you, we'll go off in another direction. So   we'll give you a here. All you have to do is unmute star six, say, hey, Roger,   and we will recognize   you.  

Okay. Doesn't seem to be any of theirs. Oh, oh, oh, oh, hold on. Paul has something.  

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I really, really need the, the Jeopardy sound bite for that. I really Yeah. Yeah. That would be good. A little drop in.  

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So, does anybody have anything that particular there's somebody right there. Yes. Who is that, please?  

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Yeah. It's it's William in Augusta.  

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Hey, William.   Morning. Hey.  

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Morning.   I forgot to mention something the other day that was very interesting.   So back when the Helene   hurricane came through   our area Oh, yes. Last September last   Right. It was last year. FEMA was yeah. FEMA offered, $750   for, immediate needs assistance.   And,   all you had to do was go online and fill out the form, and that's what I did.   Just a just an experiment.   And,   and then they asked for,   they said my application was pending, that I needed to upload   a passport or ID. So I uploaded my passport and ID,   and that was back in September or October.   And,   last week, I got a letter,   electronically and said, hey. Your application's been approved.  

We're gonna deposit $7.50 in your bank account, and it hit hit my bank account Monday.  

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Really?   Now what are your, what are your obligations with this? Do you have to pay it back? Is it accumulating interest? Do you have to give them your firstborn male child upon default, any of that stuff?  

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No. It's not even taxable because it's, disaster assistance.  

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Yep. Well, I guess that,   and that was $750.   And where where your fellow Georgian, Stacey Abrams, got 2,000,000,000. Do you feel slighted?  

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Right. I just thought it was interesting because I uploaded my passport   and,   as ID.   And,   you know, I'm a national, and they Yeah. They gave me the money. So this is is an interesting  

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incident. It is.   It is.  

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That's, quite insightful. I guess the presumption the presumption,   worked out in my favor this time.  

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Well, good, man. Well, maybe that makes up a little bit for the ad valorem tax that you're not gonna get back.  

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Right. I just wanted to hear I just wanted to share that. I thought that was interesting.  

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Okay, William. Well, thanks. Well, don't   spend it all in one place.  

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That's right. And,  

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congratulations,   I guess. Well, I've got a very dear friend right there in Augusta.   Just gusta as I refer to it affectionately.   And,   he had a lot of, property damage at his house. And then he was trying to do it all himself and all this. I said, Billy, Billy,   go hire a learn an attorney. We learned this in Florida on the last big hurricane, Michael,   that was through there and all the other people that have   had experienced so much damage, and that was a very powerful hurricane.   They went and hired lawyers and got more than they had   needed. And my mom,   in her old age trying to fight this herself and do   it, was straight with USIA, and and   we got,   well, we got screwed with a capital f, if you wanna put it that way. She did.  

Okay. So, anyway, I said, go get a lawyer. Let seek the lawyer on him. You know?   Yep. I don't know whether he did or not because Skype has extinguished my connection with him, but I'll get it back here eventually.   So, yeah, there was a lot of damage inland.   I Augustus   how far are you away from the coast? You're a bit away from the coast there, aren't you? Yeah. I'm a couple hours driving. Yeah.   Yeah. And so that hurricane veered back in,   and covered Augusta and went on up and did the big dump. I forgot   how many   gallons of water it was   predict or not predicted,   but estimated   fell up there? Like, a trillion and a half gallons of water are on North Carolina or something? It obliterated  

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it obliterated Asheville   in that area,   Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee.  

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So sad. So sad. That's one of the reasons I'm real glad to be out of Florida.   If I never have to deal with another hurricane, I'll be tickled to death.  

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Yeah. They were they were still finding bodies. They were still finding bodies a few months ago up that way. Really? Oh my lord. Yep. I'm sure they're quite deteriorated.  

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So okay. Well, anything else, William? You got okay, Bruce. Hold on. Let me polish off with William and see. Anything else you wanted to add to that, William?  

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No. No. I just thought I wanted to share it. I thought it was interesting.  

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Okay.   Alright, buddy. Well, thank you. And for everything you do, thank you.   Bruce, what do you got? Now you're you're welcome, buddy.   Bruce, you're from down there around South Carolina, right in the area we're talking about. What you got to add here?  

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I'm from Abbeville,  

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South Carolina. Yeah. And,  

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I'm right across the river, Savannah River from Augusta, Georgia.  

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Oh, you're right there by Aiken? The Grantham   Abbeville is right there by Aiken.   Okay.  

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With   Aiken. Yeah.   McCormick's next to  

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Aiken, and Abbeville is on the other side of McCormick.  

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Uh-huh. And right there for the audience that might not know, they've got a,   the Savannah nuclear plant or whatever is the name of it is. They've got a nuke plant there.  

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That's it.  

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And they, are the ones that deal with this really, really high problematic,   results of nuclear fusion. I forget this all the nomenclature,   but it's these rods are a lot more dangerous.   And, they were the rods that they had shipped out of there, I believe.   It's one of the few plants that does that, my understanding.   And they had shipped them for storage over to Fukushima,   and those were a lot of the rods that were in those pools on top that have given so much problems since were from, the Savannah River plant, I believe it's called.   Right there. So you got the masters. You got the Savannah River plant. You've got Abbeville where's   the civil war, if you will, the war against northern aggression,   was, started kinda.  

So, yeah, what you got to add for us, Bruce?  

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Well, I just congratulate you in finding us, and,   be free to   speak up.  

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Okay.  

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It's like hometown.  

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Alright. Anyway,  

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that's it. Thanks for calling me.  

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Okay, Bruce.   So who else? Somebody got up some topic we can,   get   talking about or something that anybody got anything to bring on? We got a pretty hellacious weekend coming up. It would appears Larry is gonna,   give us something. Yes, sir. How you doing, Larry?  

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Good.   Ron Ron DeSantis   said   in a press conference that if any rioters   surround your vehicle   and you fear that your life is,   being put on the line,   that   you have his permission   that if you have to flee and you   run over one of them, that you will not be held accountable. That will be on them.  

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Cool.  

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Well, I tell you, DeSantis knows how to play both sides of the fence, doesn't he?  

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For sure.   Another thing I'd like to say is,   god had mercy on us and gave us the Internet,   but he used,   Al Gore   to support its development   and,   implementation.  

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Yes. Yes. We have Al to thank.   That works.  

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These people. One more thing. What was it that that William   received back from the   in in the form of a check?  

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Yeah. His $750   from her from hurricane relief for last year.  

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Okay.  

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Yep. That's all I got right now. You know, they give, Israel billions, and they give you 750.   Don't forget the Lahainans,   out there in Hawaii on the island   of Maui,   had the same   exact experience,   the exact same amount of money. What do you think you can build in Hawaii for $750?   Not you might can have a very elaborate   sand castle on the beach.  

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Okay? And, Roger,   it's a good thing William didn't need that money for hurricane relief when when the hurricane happened. Right?   Yeah. How long ago was that?  

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About a year.   How was he? I think he said he applied good time. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. K. Applied in October,   September, October. Just got it back. So, anyway, there's this there's the speed and veracity of the federal government right there. Of course, it's very interesting because it will be in particular.   Pardon me?  

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Say for its people.   When it comes to its people, they don't give a shit. But when it's when it's Israel or or the Ukraine, you know, we're we're handing it over. Oh.   Hand over   You know, like yesterday.  

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They can't get it in the wire transfer portal quick enough. I can tell you that. For them, it ain't got that right.  

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So  

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so yeah. So William got his cash, and that's cool. So it doesn't have to be paid back. You don't have to even pay taxes on it. So I hope that's worth whatever the experience of that hurricane did for you. Maybe you can   you can't even hardly get a tree up for seven hundred and fifty dollars. My buddy had a tree fall on his house. So,   anyway, just be I'm just glad to be out of the state of the we just had to buy a new car battery. $220.   Is that right? Yikes.   Yeah.   Well,   car battery is more than $220.   Uh-huh. Well, pretty soon you're gonna get those batteries. So I don't guess you'd be using a lithium battery in your car, would you?   But the silver   addition to the lithium battery components of that,   are going to change the whole   world's battery   components, eventually.  

Don't know how long that's gonna take. You should start seeing it   in EV autos, I think, next year,   is when they were planning on it. '26 or '27, probably '26.   So we'll see about that. That also should guide you to   maybe the decision of acquiring even small amounts of silver because, boy, when that all that starts happening, it's gonna   really drive the price of silver sky high.   So we'll see.   But, you know, I was talking, I was talking at lunch yesterday. Oh, there's somebody wanting to say something about Jeffy, Jesse Livermore.   Yep, Bruce. Yes, sir?  



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I was gonna just gonna remind everybody that all our legislative branches,   people are Israel's,   residents.  

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There's some   Israel.  

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Dual dual citizen dual Dual citizens. They sure won't tell you how many are in there. There was a retired attorney from Boston that's been trying to find that out for years. And he's tried every approach, and he knows how to try it. They will not give him that information.   I think that vote on antisemitism   the other day is fairly indicative though out of the entire house. There's only two people. I don't even think Marjorie Taylor   Greene voted against it. She just said present,   you know, abstain add.   Abstaincha. So, anyway, there's only two of them out of the whole congress that voted or didn't vote, for this little measure.  

So that gives you some indication. They literally control the congress, senate, and house folks.   And that's the big unbalance. Just like we read the downs b Bidwell   site yesterday with Mark, and he was saying there there's the constitution, then there's congress.   And that that's what they've done is they've gone over and taken over congress court.   And as Louis t McFadden said almost a hundred years ago,   they control every important office here in Washington.   That's right out of his mouth. It was ninety years ago, a little less.   So, anyway, that's, what we gotta do is just continue to expose them. We've got the ultimate exposure here, and that's why we keep trying to get keep trying to get our foundation,   solid and grown and growing.  

And,   at some point, it's we can tip the scales,   I think.   That's what I'm going on anyway.   I know nothing else in history has ever been able to get them to shut up, and this makes them stand absolutely 100%   totally mute. And I don't believe they've got any of their,   little Jew excuses for it. Oh, it's just an accident we ask you those two questions.   Oi. Oi.   No. We're tired of Babylonian   captivity.   We're tired of being   slaves to these sorry   moralist   ethical   ethics less   no ethics.   No morals.   All totally Machiavellian   Jew bastards   in name only.  

And,   I I will not.   I would I I couldn't stand another day of being in servitude to the bastards even though you don't even   realize it. You know?   I was talking about this. We had a nice lunch yesterday with the guys, and   we're talking about it. And and, one,   Walt, my,   my,   jazz musician buddy goes, well, I don't feel slave.   I said, well, that's the trick. You know? This is, Goethe. Goethe. Remember Goethe?   Well, probably didn't even really know about Goethe. He was a German philosopher. He wrote a a a opera called   Faust where a young kid made a deal with the devil.  

You think that may be what we're doing here?   And,   the other thing was, of course, his,   his famous quote, there are none so helplessly   enslaved as those who falsely   believe they're free. And and even though they know they're a slave,   they will not do something to come out of that condition because it's comfortable for   them. Oh, I don't pay any taxes anyway. Well, it's not about taxes. That's the surface issue, obviously.   Everybody's concerned with their pocketbook, but it's that down deep underneath that that obligates you to,   oh, agencies and whatnot   on regulations   and all the crap.  

So, anyway,   I was going to launch into a minute ago because we were talking, I think yesterday about Jesse Livermore.   Right?   I've mentioned him before. He's just somebody that's always captured my imagination.   He was the famous investor in the twenties.   The Great Gatsby   was, fashioned after him,   I've heard.   And,   he made and lost a fortune eight times in ten years, I think.   A little over, a little less, whatever.   Went through eight wives.   And,   one of them, he had bought a bunch of jewels for her when he was on the high side, and then he wanted to get the jewels to sell them to start again after he lost everything. And she wouldn't give him the jewels, and so he divorced her little butt and and got him a new one.   But he was so famous in those days in New York.  

His I guess he drove a very unique car. I don't know what model or anything.   But back in those days in New York, they didn't have traffic lights. They had traffic towers.   It'd be a big tower at the intersection, and they would direct traffic from there. And they could see his car and recognize it coming, and Jesse Livermore never   stopped   for a red light.   Never. They would change the traffic lights   to allow him to go through unimpeded.   So that is,   that is, local fame up there on quite a level, I would say. Anyway, Jesse Livermore's,   somebody asked him what's the secret   to success in investing. And Jesse said,   buy right,   sit tight.  

Buy right,   get that gold and silver now while you can still get it, if you can, if your dealer's got any,   and sit tight and wait.   Just sit tight.   It's a coming, folks,   and,   they can disguise it. And should we go into if nobody's got any questions or comments, I should stop a call for that. Can we go,   maybe over into the BIS and talk about the,   Basel three agreement and what the effects of that are gonna be as we go down this road? Does anybody have any questions or comments   at this point?   Nobody.   Okay.   I heard it. Where did I hear it yesterday? I was very surprised,   listening to the pleasantly,   listening to the hour   of Harrison,   and he had Mel Kaye on. I'm assuming that most of you   have some familiarity   familiarity   with, Mel Kaye. Right? Paul, do you?  

Oh, Paul.   Now he's off doing something.  

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Aren't you? I'm I'm trying to figure out why magic why UPS doesn't have my magicJack yet that they say was shipped on the twenty seventh of last month. So Yikes. Alrighty.  

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Not not paying attention. You're chasing. Okay. Well, I hope mine was shipped Tuesday,   as they say, and I'll get it here and get some of these obstacles out of the way.   Are you familiar with Melkay?  

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Yeah.   Kinda.  

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Okay. Well, she's, evidently Kaye is some Jewish name, but she's pretty level headed Jew if that's the case.   She's got a you'll see her all the time over on BitChute and whatnot, and she's interviewing different people. I guess she's built quite an audience   over the years.   But she was, has a new book out. She was on Harrison yesterday   and, talking about what's going on and promoting her book, and I was shocked. I mean, I was shocked at how many times she mentioned the BIS.   She's pretty well on top of it. Okay?   I have to say from the standpoint of who's running stuff and how it's structured and how it runs, and the whole thing emanates down from the BIS,   which, stands for   the Bank of International Settlements.  

It's in Basel, Switzerland. It's another one of these   Vatican,   DC,   City Of London type affairs   where they got total sovereignty. You can't serve on papers. You can't come on the lot. You can't they got their own passports and their own laws in essence right there, and they control all of the   all of the,   or the majority   of the stock markets,   futures markets,   penny markets,   all   commodity markets, all this. The stock markets, they control almost all that in the world on top of most of the central banks.   And, they're very powerful entity. They were started in the thirties. If you really   have a big curious about this,   and I'm I wish I knew which chapter it was.  

But in the Lewis T. McFadden   book that we've got on the website for download and   the 31 collective speeches of Louis T. McFadden. Those   were right out of the congressional record between '31 and '33.   And then they finally   they killed him on the attempt. They poisoned him   at a dinner at the Waldorf   Waldorf Astoria in New York City.   But one of the chapters in that book or one of the speeches that he gave to the house of representatives   as the chairman of the house banking committee   was a whole speech on the formation and the   the use of the BIS.  

And like I said, when I got that book and got my hands on it in the very early days of my Patriot life,   Unfortunately, I was so green that I really a lot of it went over my head,   and I've never gone back and reread it. But,   but I still do carry that book with me. It's with me here in South America.   One, the Bible and and this book and one or two other smaller books is that's how important I thought it was. But there's one whole chapter on there on the BIS.   Had they were forming it back in those days. Is that the Whistler? Good lord. Well,   Chicago and whoever, I'm afraid you're gonna have to, unless you join us, miss the back part of this, very   insightful   information on the Bank of International Settlements. But Paul   is chomping at the bit to get on here and tell you bye bye. So I'm I'm ready.  



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Yes. I am kind of. One zero six point nine WBOU   FM Chicago.   Thank you for joining us for the hour. Please do follow us into the hour. You can go to eurofolkradio.com,   Global Voice Radio Network through   the radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   Or if you'd like to join the discussion, go to the matrixdocs.com   and use the free conference call links there. Thanks.   Ciao.  

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We'd like to have some discussion. See you.   So if they took off, I'm sorry that they're gonna miss the last of this if they haven't heard it. I've gone over it before on the air. It's just a very timely topical subject   because whatever's coming, these guys are involved in.   K? And, they control all of the rest of the major financial stuff on the planet, basically, and you can't confront them.   They've got total anonymity over there in their little   sacred area and,   all of that stuff. Well, they came out with a   well, they called it the Basel three accords.  

Somebody might look up. I think that was about 2016   when they did that, the Basel three accords.   And that has set the stage for what all is going now with the all these banks and wealthy individuals and investors buying.   You you virtually can hardly get any gold.   The the   London   Metals Exchange over there, Paul,   if you were used to, you could buy   metals through them,   and it would be whatever your order day is, and you got   delivery the next day.   You know? Day   order day plus one.   This is a Andy Shekman information here.   And now it's a order day plus eight weeks.  

Do you get that? It used to be one day, and now it's eight weeks for your delivery.   That has got to show you something.   K?   Because there's   a there's a FUBAR in there somewhere.   And the FUBAR is that they've oversold gold,   you know, especially a bunch of these ETFs.   It was I was talking to somebody the other day, and he goes, oh, yeah. I got some, you know, gold ETF. And I went, oh, jeez.   That's just another way where they can hold the gold, and you're gonna buy they're gonna sell it to you. You think you own it, but what you don't know is they've sold it a 100 times over you.   So there's a 101 owners of that.  

Now who do you think is gonna get it?   Well, it ain't gonna be any of you. K?   So, that's how they do a lot of this stuff. Do not do not get ETFs and paper, gold or silver,   because the their synagogue buddies get delivery in the metal, and you get   the old shaft.   Remember the old country song,   Paul?   Yeah. I got the   what?   She got the mine, and I got the shaft, something like that.   So in 2016, since none of you are gonna come up with a date for me, I think that's when the basal accords were passed.   And one of the things they did in that   is that they   switched around what they call the assets. And the   banks, I suppose central and otherwise,   have three tiers of assets, tier one, tier two, tier three. And the, importance of that is from the inception of the old bank   almost a hundred years ago. It was in the early thirties.  

Since the inception of that,   gold has been a tier three asset. Now what does that mean? If you've not heard this before, what does that mean?   The relationship   is between you having the asset on the books of your establishment   and   what you can carry percentage wise of the amount of the wealth of it   over to your balance sheet that you present to your shareholders.   So the three stages, tier one, two, and three, were 100%,   75,   and 50%. What I'll explain to you is the   since its inception in the early thirties for almost a hundred years,   the tier one assets have always been what's considered to be the most liquid of assets, cash, of course,   bonds,   stocks,   whatever they, the equity is that they've got there in tier one.  

And there's classes of them, you know, what they were that they could carry there.   And if they had any of those things in their balance sheet, they could carry a 100% of the value over to the balance sheet.   So they got full faith and credit for these lick liquid liquid   assets.   And the type two, level two, and I don't know what those would have been. I can't give you an example, unfortunately.   But they're less less,   liquid.   So where they would carry over a 100% to the balance sheet from tier one, they only carry over 75%   of the tier two assets   to the balance sheet. The tier was three where gold has always been   as evaluated by the Bank of International Settlements. Since   its inception,   They   recalibrated   gold   from a 50   tier three asset   up to a tier one asset. And to give the banks now plenty of incentive   to go out and get as much of it as they can get their hands on because they can carry the value a 100% over to the balance sheet now instead of 50%.  

And they have been responding to that for a long time, many years,   and, buying as much gold as they can get their hands on. Still happening today.   And when you hear these people in the metals market talk about this,   you you or or other people that are commenting on this. You never   hear them say they're buying Cybercoins   and Bitcoin.   They're buying gold.   Okay?   And I don't even think silver as much, but just gold. Yeah. There's somebody right there. Who's got something to add?  

[01:06:10] Unknown:

Yeah. +1 988 and was put in force by the g ten countries   in 1992.  

[01:06:17] Unknown:

Was it that far back?   Really? That's Basel three, of course. Okay. Well, I'm not gonna argue with that. I thought it was a little later, but they've been doing it for a long time. And, you know, I had a friend in Atlanta named Tom Cloud,   who's retired now, sold his business. He was one of the top 20 coin dealers in the world   and,   very recognized inside those communities. And,   I called Tom one day. He was handling all my stuff, trying to get it down to South America and everything else, which is a story in itself.   But I called Tom one day. I said, Tom, how you doing? You know? He says, man, Roger, I am so busy.  

He said, I have got banks   absolutely jumping all over me. Now this was at the time remember the v the gorilla economist? Remember that guy that was around for a while? He was a fraud, by the way.   He didn't he wasn't v the gorilla economist. He had a friend who was somebody that he knew was that traitor, and he just took on his identity   and presented himself to the patriot community   as this,   top   Wall Street guy. Well, he wasn't. He was a fraud. K?   And and before everybody knew that, I had him on a program over on, the MicroFX, actually, and this subject came up. I just had that conversation with Tom Cloud.   And,   and Vikram comes on there and says, oh, central banks aren't buying gold.  

And I'd and I just had this conversation with one of the top dealers in the world. He's telling me he's inundated with banks, OneGold.   And I confront, no. No. They're not doing that. Okay. Well, we know you're a fraud now.   So, anyway, Tom had told me that. He said, Roger, I'm dealing with banks back before he sold his company. He said, I'm just absolutely swamped.   And they've still been doing anybody from that,   the area from the gold silver business, your talk is banks are buying as much as they can get their hands on. That's why that metric   of order day plus one for delivery   to order day plus eight weeks is so significant.  

They've got to go out and fulfill those orders and then get you that gold. The people that had allocated gold that they thought was allocated,   which mean they had it in a storage place, and it was identified as their bar.   And when they go to get the bar back, they don't get the bars that they put in. They're not the same manufacturers. If there's near numbers and stuff involved, they're not the same. So these people are playing all kinds of three card Monte in the background here. Okay?   And that's what the,   you're seeing right now. And it doesn't matter to them that it's price gone up to over $3,000.  

They're still buying it hand over fist. Okay? As much as they can get, they'll buy. Chinese are buying it.   Anyway, there's a there's a a shortage out there, at least just what it appears from some of the data that we see.   And if your dealer and you've got any extra Federal Reserve notes, Babblebucks,   If you got any extra babble bucks laying around there in a pension fund or something,   it would be very, very prudent of you to look at this one. I'm gonna tell you, there was an interview with a guy that was the previous   he was a Dutch guy. I don't remember his name.  

That had been the previous,   head of the BIS,   and he was explaining   this,   Basel three agreement to an interviewer. He was retired at that point. He said, oh, yeah. We saw this coming. Well, of course, they're bankers. They see this coming. They know how faulty the whole system is and the usury and the fact that if all the debts were paid, there wouldn't be any circulating babble box.   And so he said, yeah. We had this planned out a long time. What we'll do is when the thing   goes under, we'll just,   we'll we'll reevaluate   gold to whatever the difference is, and then the bank   will give the shareholders   worthless shares   because the money you put in there is not yours anymore. It's theirs. They they'll return it, but you'll get worthless shares of a bankrupt bank.  

And they'll get all the gold and everything will be reevaluated, and we'll just sail on into the sunset. And all the debt is   yeah. It's just like Lewis McFadden and his,   speech is one of the most famous ones you'll see on the Internet. The the Jews have all the gold, and the Gentiles have all the paper.   That was the speech,   and that's what's happening.   So be very wise. Be very prudent. You got time still. If you've got availability and   accessibility   in the,   in the way of having some extra babble bucks around,   it would be very prudent. I mentioned the story again the other day,   the one that Robbie Noel used to tell,   about in, like, Baden Baden, one of these big spa spas in Germany. They got a number of them over there. And the,   the bellhop that worked there had some regular customers, and when they left, they tipped him a gold coin. And he went back and went home and put the gold coin in a drawer and forgot about it, which is best. You know, my right, sit tight.  

And,   he found it   in the middle of the hyperinflation,   and he took the gold coin and went back and bought the spa,   hotel, all of it.   So there's your example. You may too can advance yourself in some way like that. Very wise to have some of that stuff around.   And, one of the reasons that we can do this show the way we can do is because years ago,   I had a incredible cash flow situation when I was working with, doctor Flick in Silverlawn.   And,   I just had all this cash around and knowing this stuff because I knew not all of it, but I knew a lot of it back then, twenty   twenty,   twenty five years ago. So and I just went and bought gold. And, every all the gold I have, I bought at $300   at an ounce and less.  

So buy right, sit tight. It's now valued at 33,   give or take. So the question is, really, has the price of gold gone up   as it appears?   Well, not really.   It's the price of the paper. The value of the paper has gone down, and now you get to see the gauge of how much it's gone down. And we're not finished yet   because it's gonna get more intense   and acute. And at some point,   you're gonna have to revalue gold   to try and make up for all of this   paper that's been printed.   There's all there's several printing presses around the world,   that print dollars,   unauthorized.  

One was in the basement of the embassy in Iran,   when they the the, quote, unquote, students overran it years ago in the seventies,   and the other one was in, Russia.   And we know that from a,   talk and a book called Major Jones   Major James, Major   Jones Diaries? What is it?   Major Jones Diaries, I think.   If you've never heard that,   and it's a talk probably to, like, a John Birch audience or something with this guy.   I'm pretty sure that's it. Is it Major Jordan? Jordan. Thank you. That's it. Jordan. I was close. Major Jordan's diaries, and you can go listen to that and hear his story. And he tells you right there. He found, found the printing press in a plane being shipped to Russia because that was his job to oversee all these shipments back to Russia,   after World War two, and they wouldn't let him. It was in a locked bag or something, and they wouldn't let him see it. And he literally pulled the 45 and said, I'm gonna see this. It's my job. And in there was a a printing press or parts of it and the plates, the $100 plates where they could   run off as many $100 bills as they want.  

So we don't know how many are circulating out there where we could go, well, we've got this much gold. Of course, everybody lies about that. And then we've got this much paper, and what should be the,   the value here? Well, the late Jim Sinclair,   who knew where the skeletons were buried. He used to be Jim Holter's partner. He was the guy that Paul Volcker back in the early eighties when he was appointed to head the Federal Reserve and bring down Jimmy Carter's inflation. Some of you weren't even born back then.   But it and and they raised interest rates. They put this big foot gal galoof six foot eight Paul Volcker in charge,   and he went back and,   raised the interest rates to 22%,   okay, to get that Jimmy Carter's   inflation under control.  

And,   when when all that was, going on, mister Volker   hired this guy, Jim Sinclair,   to go in and unwind the Hunt Brothers silver   position.   The Hunt Brothers had tried to   corner the market on silver and start their own Federal Reserve, and they came in and put a stop to that, of course.   That's when silver reached $50 an ounce, the highest it's ever been.   Last week,   silver I mean, not in gold. It was silver.   Last week, silver hit the highest it's ever been in history.   That 50 and other slightly above it and $36,   I think, 37 something last week.  

is the highest, amount it's ever been in history.   So, you, if you internalize any of that and realize what the conclusion would be, you might want   to   get as much of that stuff as you can afford in the smallest denomination you can purchase, which   all everybody wants the small denominations   because they don't have to worry about change in a barter situation.   So, anyway, there's a little rundown on the market currently. I, enjoy,   personally overseeing,   this market and having that knowledge because, that's very important. So   it's the whole base of everything, this wealth thing.  

And,   it's just a wise information to know, and it was at the time for me because I was able to make that decision.   And I've been able to hold on to some of it at least through all these accidents and the hospital visits and everything else I've incurred   down here over the years.   But, I'd encourage you to acquire some of that. You will be very grateful down the road, I believe.   So anybody got any comments on that? That was a that was a, a bunch of information right there   acquired over a lifetime.   Roger? Adult lifetime. Yes, sir, Dave?  

[01:16:58] Unknown:

Yeah. When I was a elementary school kid,   in the mid to late sixties, I don't remember exactly when, but,   you know, few years after we moved out of Detroit, my dad, you know, we lived in Detroit really close to where those sixty seven riots   were about to come on, and we moved in '64,   '63.   Yeah. You know, into the suburb.   Farmland,   you know,   bulldozed down, and they built a mile square subdivision. You know?   And,   my dad was an engineer. He went to night school after,   you know, military and and,   and he worked in the space industry,   and he got laid off.  

And he got a job at the NBD,   the National Bank in Detroit,   Downtown Detroit   in the Penobscot   Building, real famous   high rise brick building, block building,   you know, real beautiful architecture.   Anyway, he told us he he counted money in the basement.   And I I as you were talking, I I'm picturing my dad, right, in the basement.   He sorted coins.   He was sorting out the gold and silver coins out of   the circulated money.   You know, because of Nixon coming up in '71 to shut us off of that was there gold gold window. Yep.   Yep.  

And my dad was sorting through   change.   And, you know, we while he was laid off,   you know, and I don't know what I don't remember exactly what what the time frame was, but one of his friends, his name was Kelly.   And I don't know if they bowled with this guy. It was the time I ever made a met a man named Kelly.   He was in Amway,   and he was, you know, trying to sell us cleaning, you know, stuff in the sixties. And,   Kelly had this this old step van that he converted to an ice cream truck,   and we used to pile in that truck after my dad got off of work and ride up to the the local park,   and he would sell ice cream. And he   he sorted through all the coins.  

You know, when people would buy ice cream from him Sixties. And,   my my neighbors across the street,   they   I still talk to one of them guys.   Their dad had an old coin collection, and he never told them kids nothing about it,   but they knew about it. They used to go and and steal coins out of it and come and buy ice cream. And when the Oh, yeah. The truck would be parked in the driveway,   you know, when while my dad was at work, and we'd be selling ice cream out the back door.   Yeah. My brothers and I. And,   the neighbors always came and spent them them coins.  

[01:20:02] Unknown:

Yeah. And they were looking for those old silver $3.64   silver coins. That's what they were looking for. Yes.  

[01:20:09] Unknown:

Absolutely.  

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You can still find some of those occasionally. Memories.   Right. We'll say, can you tell somebody you'll find those?   And and evidently, what you just said is somebody the kids going in and finding the father's coin collection and boosting a couple of them, not knowing what they're worth and going out and spending them as if they face value.   You can take one of those silver. How much is gas?   How much is gas? So it's 3  

[01:20:35] Unknown:

would we just pay $3.00 7 or something?  

[01:20:39] Unknown:

Okay. 9. Well, if you take a if you take a an old pre '64 quarter   and and break it down on whatever the percentage of silver is versus the price of silver,   and you can go pay for a tank of gas for a quarter. You know? It used to be a quarter, a gallon.   But, you you see the value of these metals if you do comparisons like that.   So, yep,   smart, if you've got them, there are still some people with junk silver,   dealers.   I've heard Checkmans   say they had get some occasionally   of what's called junk silver.   But that's 64 and pre 64,   dimes,   quarters, and half dollars.  

Right. And then after 64,   for a couple of years, at least one or two,   the Kennedy half dollar was 50%   silver.   But after that, they shut that off. Now the biggest obstacle they had   to be able to do that, which is to get that silver that's circulating,   and they want it,   in instead of having it circulate, of course.   And, the biggest obstacle,   for them to accomplish that was Dave, do you know?  

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Well, I they had to devalue it in the people's minds. They called it junk  

[01:22:04] Unknown:

silver. Well, that's not it. The before they could pull that and and switch to the copper   nickel coins, the sandwich coins,   they had to get   a way where the vending machines   would recognize them. Oh.   Because of the lightness and the difference in the weight between silver and the Copro nickel Right. Points. And it was some guy in Chicago that figured it out. And the minute they got that figured out, they they did the switch.   Trying to get all the switch your father was probably involved with getting those,   64 dimes, nickels, and halves out of the, circulation.  



[01:22:42] Unknown:

So just for g FYI. You know, Raj, I remember in in the seventies,  

[01:22:49] Unknown:

somebody came up with some slugs.   You know, they they were silverish in color. I don't know what they were made out of, but they worked in  

[01:23:00] Unknown:

the trick those. Yeah. They trick those machines. Right.   Oh,  

[01:23:05] Unknown:

yeah. Yep. So, anyway, this metal bunch of those kids in the neighborhood. We had a handful of them. You know? Yeah. And we went up to the local mall, you know, where we kinda hung out up there, and and, they had a an arcade.   And, we used some slugs   in the in the arcade. And one day, we were up there hanging out, you know,   having a burger and just junior high.   And, this payphone there was a payphone in there, and it started ringing.   And my sister was with us, and I told her, go answer that and tell him I'm not I'm not here right now.   And she picked up that phone, and Roger,   quarter start pouring out of the slot, the return money slot.  

Yeah.   We got, like, man, more than $20. I can't remember what it was. It was, like, $19.71   or something. You know? Yeah. But I'm telling you,  

[01:23:56] Unknown:

the the corners just poured out of that thing. I was like, wow.   We thought you're at the projector. Like like you're at the casino. Vegas.   Yeah. I guess, like cell phones are not I mean, pay phones are nonexistent. Right? We touched on that the other day. I I don't see them down here,   at all, but they may not have been here before. I imagine they were. I just don't know.   But, I you can see they're not anywhere up there. Right?  

[01:24:26] Unknown:

Right. Oh, they were on every corner, there was a they made them where you could sit in your car now, you know, and they were you could sit right up to one, you know, in a little Yes. Half box or   Uh-huh. Yep. And you could sit in your car and Is he from America? Yeah. He's from Florida.   Anyway,   yeah. When and a phone call used to be a dime. You used to put a dime, silver dime in the white phone.   And,  

[01:24:50] Unknown:

yep. And The merchant   Louisiana   Louisiana was the last state to have nickel phone calls.   They prided themselves on that. When you were paying a dime, they were only paying a nickel there, Dave.   So, but I don't know why  

[01:25:07] Unknown:

can't come to the rescue.  

[01:25:09] Unknown:

It's Superman can't come to the rescue. That's right. Now where's Superman? Although there's a new super there's a new Superman movie, Lisa. Don't speak too soon.  

[01:25:18] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[01:25:20] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:25:21] Unknown:

I'm seeing it. Black black and gay. Right? I no. I know. I think he's a white guy, and I don't know much else. I've just seen the clips and the promotion for it.   But he has no Yeah. I know. They're they can't come up with anything new in Hollywood. They've gotta go remake all this old old crap. Who? Yes, ma'am. Was that you again, Lisa? We haven't heard from you in a while.  

[01:25:41] Unknown:

Yeah. I says, but he has no phone booths to go change in. So how's it gonna work?  

[01:25:46] Unknown:

Right. Yikes. You'll have to go in the closet, I guess.  

[01:25:51] Unknown:

Soup soup in the closet. Just keep us stay out of the liquor closet there, Superman.  

[01:25:56] Unknown:

Come   out of that closet, Superman. Come on.   No telling. No telling. I can promise you I will not be spending any of my babble bucks to go see it even if even if it shows down here.   We do get some of those American movies down here. So who else is that? You, Nancy, talking about Superman changing and not having a place to change?  

[01:26:21] Unknown:

No. You were right It's Lisa.  

[01:26:24] Unknown:

Oh, hey, Lisa. Well, we haven't talked to you in a while. How are you doing?  

[01:26:29] Unknown:

I'm alright.  

[01:26:31] Unknown:

Oh, you said that with some hesitation.   Okay. Well, we're Lisa, folks, if you don't know, because she's very quiet now. She used to be   eject herself a bit more earlier, but Lisa's been one of the old how long you've been following me since the micro effect or something   or before that? I don't know. Long Bennett Bennett RBN.   Yeah. Well, there you go. And and, we don't it doesn't hardly miss a show. So we love you, girl. She's up there   around Cleveland. Right? Northern Ohio?  

[01:27:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm about an hour south of Cleveland. But, yeah, Northeast Ohio.  

[01:27:10] Unknown:

Alright.   Listen. This is one thing I wanted to bring up that I thought about. Does does any of you have any connections, or did anybody have any connections to Jim, Jim Ram's widow?   I was just curious   because I know Jim dabbled in a bunch of this stuff, and his goal was to have this million dollar catamaran   sailboat and go sailing around the world and and all these, aspirations and goals. And I know I heard him mention her, but I never heard him   mention I don't even know what her name is. But I was wondering with all that stuff and his untimely passing,   if all   if the estate is can can can she get in and get all that cyber coins and stuff? Did he do adequate preparation   for her?  

I just wonder. I I don't this crossed my mind a couple of times, see if anybody knew had those connections, and I hope that,   Jim had taken care of a lot of it. Yeah. Well, I I don't either. So,   I hope everything, turned out alright. Most of us don't think we're gonna die, and then something happens like happened to Jim and you get caught,   well, unexpected.  

[01:28:26] Unknown:

So, anyway All I know about any of that is that his wife wasn't is an RN,   and and, you know, he was very much into natural healing. And Yeah. So I know   they had some kind of struggles  

[01:28:39] Unknown:

per se there. You know? Well uh-huh. Well, I know that she wasn't having no part of no catamaran sailboat. I remember him making that comment. That was Jim's   big dream. So I'm sorry. Maybe he's up in the big catamaran in the sky now,   and we'll miss him. I just wondered that. It's just a,   that's a good lesson for all of us. If you haven't made plans,   and you've got something worth planning for then or,   people around you that are worth planning for, then that's a real good thing to not put on the back burner too long.   So,   thank you, Lisa.  

Always nice to talk to you. It's been a while.   So who else is out there that's got something this morning? We got about,   I don't know, thirty minutes left or so.   In the program, I've been running my mouth the whole time on stuff we've talked about before, but it's   extremely important.   So anybody, you got something there? I hear a mic open. Do I?  

[01:29:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Hi, Roger. It's Mary from San Diego.   Hey, Mary. While you were talking.   Hi.   I was thinking about I don't know if you've ever heard of James Rink super soldier talk.  

[01:29:58] Unknown:

I have not. That's totally new to me.  

[01:30:02] Unknown:

Yeah. If you haven't, there's a,   an interview with a woman named Mary Beaver about a month ago.   And it's just interesting   because she's talking about the the trusts and,   how they're just controlling all of us with this paper money.   And, really,   we're incarnated   king and queens,   and and we're royalty, and we're, like, fighting back for our   heritage.   Anyway, you know, she talks about the black credit card and,   the the some people get that you if you do get the black credit card, you you have to, like, sell them   or give them back everything else, and then everything is run by the International Monetary Fund. And there's, like, 50   undocumented   countries outside of the little circle of where we live on our   plane. I don't know. I just thought I'd mention it because it kinda goes along with everything that you're saying, and it's kind of a a little quantum leap from the discussion, but I just find it very interesting.  



[01:31:10] Unknown:

Okay. Well, thank you, Mary. I'm not familiar with any of those people. I do agree with them on one count, though. The big, big picture here   is Esau Edom has tricked us into giving him the birthright back.   I I mean, that's really what's going on here. Okay? Yeah. And and don't let him do that. Yeah.   Did she?   Don't let him do that. You've got the opportunity to remove yourself from that situation and break the chains.   And if you you don't have to do it, I'm not telling you to do it. You gotta do it on your own because it's gotta be voluntary. But,   if you do wanna do that, we can help you, get out of Jewish slavery,   which I would think everybody would wanna do. But then again, when I think that, I'm always disappointed because some people just   because some people just like it.  

They like it.   Unfortunately,   that's the way it is. So consider yourself lucky that you,   a, crossed paths with this information, and b, that it resonated with you and   motivated you to learn more. And as you learn more, you   learn more. Boy, do you. So,   anyway and then you get empowered and everything's cool. So, Mary, great to hear from you. You got anything else?   There's a there's a bunch of problems going on in San Diego, I know, like everywhere else, I guess.  

[01:32:29] Unknown:

Right. You know, I I see it on the,   the Internet and stuff, but everything is peaceful. I think the more we can cultivate peace and love in our own reality and,   just sending lots of love and, kindness and peace to everybody there. And in Jesus' name, God bless us all.  

[01:32:49] Unknown:

Well, thank you, Mary.   I think those people could use a little Jesus,   as much as they abhor him.   So thank you.   Anybody else got a report?   I had seen this guy. You know, you got that guy down in San Diego, and I can't remember his name. He's,   kinda loosely affiliated with Infowars, and he's got those long dreadlocks.   He's always confronting the city council and all that stuff. He's real loud.   And, I've just seen him recently going over what they're doing there in some kind of a common area. Where you used to have food and stuff, and now they've run all the vendors in there. And they're taking money away from the restaurants, and they're screwing with the parking   and all this other stuff because of this. You got a a Sugar Bridge's mayor, don't you?  

I I'm sorry. I don't really pay too much attention to that. So Okay. Well, anyway, he was talking about it. I wouldn't know about it if I hadn't heard him talking about it. But,   like many other cities, you've got one of these wackos   running the show.   So, anyway, well, thank you, Mary. Appreciate it.   Sure. I I don't I'm not familiar with those people. Probably some in the audience are, but listen. I got so much. I'm just trying to keep up and trying to watch the things that you kind listeners send me to get backed up in a queue.   And, I generally and then my own life that I like to have and live. So   I'm pretty crunched in the listening and going around the net looking for stuff.  

But, anyway, well, thank you for bringing that to our attention. Okay?  

[01:34:30] Unknown:

Sure. You're welcome. My pleasure. Alright. Okay. Thank you.  

[01:34:35] Unknown:

Feel free to drop in anytime.   Who else has got something they'd like to inject here this morning   besides the COVID vaccine?  

[01:34:45] Unknown:

Hello, Roger?  

[01:34:46] Unknown:

Yes.   It is? Is that Robin? This is Rose from   no. This is Rose from Texas. I called. You were there the other day. Yes.   Yeah. I remember last week. Ago.  

[01:35:01] Unknown:

Yes, ma'am. Well, good to see you again.  

[01:35:05] Unknown:

Yes. Good to hear you all again.   I just have a question.   Do people that have a felony, can they file for national affidavit?  

[01:35:16] Unknown:

Yes. They can.   You can volunteer in and out any time.   Yes. Exactly. And I think what, you know, brings up an interesting question, doesn't it? Because generally people that have been convicted of a felony can't have firearms.   But what's happening here in the big picture have you ever heard of your legal personality,   Rose?   What's happened is you're changing your legal personality. Okay. Your legal personality   is where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties.   And you you know, this goes back to that little formula that's so important. It's very simple. It's just important.   R plus d equals r.  

Rights plus duties equal remedies. And the way you find out what type of a person you are, the word person or what your legal personality   is,   is you go back and find out where you get your rights and to whom you owe your correlative duties.   In the case of this, you were in a served condition. You were did something you were convicted of,   and you have that on your record.   But now you're changing your legal personality.   You can do that even under those circumstances.   So the question is, under your new legal personality,   does that old legal penalty still apply?  

And I don't know the answer to that. It shouldn't. I don't know we ever had anybody press the envelope on it and get something definitive for us.   It shouldn't matter. You're a new person.   You shouldn't have those restrictions on you anymore. Whether you do or not, I don't I don't know how they would,   effectuate that and enforce it. But, yeah, it's a very good question and quite astute on your part.  

[01:37:03] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:37:08] Unknown:

Yes.   I I guess,   the other question was, is this show archived?   Like, can I go back to  

[01:37:16] Unknown:

Paul?   Where did you find the dark? Hold on. Hold on. We're gonna get our midwife for you. Paul, are you there?   Paul?   Paul, are you still arguing?   It's on the website, Rose,   and we've got a new Okay. A new archive deal, and it's kinda neat. I I have not experienced it. I've heard Paul talk about it, and he'll come back here in a minute.   I don't know if he likes me calling him a midwife or not.  

[01:37:46] Unknown:

But, No. I don't think so. Okay. Well, I do.  

[01:37:51] Unknown:

I think not.  

[01:37:52] Unknown:

Could you please, could you please enlighten Rose on how to,   access the archives and tell her about the little deal? Because we got a new little AI deal, Rose, that even can help old folks like us,   that don't know anything about that kind of thing. Paul, would you, instruct her, please?  

[01:38:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd be happy to do that.   You can go to,   the matrixdocs.com.   It is the matrixdocs.com,   and just click on the global voice radio link there.   And what that will do is that will put you right in the,   that'll put you right in the the,   the show   archive   page.   There will be a link for any live radio programs that happen to be going on at the moment,   And,   the whole list of programs is right there, including any lives that are scheduled,   lives that are currently live,   and,   all 1,092   episodes that we have up there so far.  

[01:39:00] Unknown:

Yikes.   Okay.  

[01:39:02] Unknown:

We got some archives. And and I did Now,  

[01:39:05] Unknown:

Rose, I wanted to tell you, this is kinda neat.   Okay. Let me just interrupt here so I don't wanna lose. You there's a way, and I want Paul to tell you that you   can well, AI has joined in here,   and you can ask   AI what the program is, and it will give you an unbelievably   accurate readout of all the things we covered. And you can see if that's something that interests you or just got something you're looking for. So that's a little icing on the cake for all you folks. So, Paul, how does she do that?  

[01:39:37] Unknown:

All she's gotta do is just click on the title of any of the episodes   that are listed there   on that page, and it will show the disc the title   and the description   of that episode. Like, for example,   from June 11,   the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales,   that was,   the title is from Downs v Bidwell to Modern Protests, a Legal Perspective.   It's episode 1,092,   and the show notes of what we talked about   is in this episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. The discussion centers around the intricacies of national status,   implications of the amendment, and the historical   context of jurisdiction in The United States.  

Roger and his guests delve into the complexities   of the legal system,   exploring the differences between de facto and Azure governance   and the impact of historical court cases like Downs v Bidwell.   The conversation also touches on the role of AI in legal research   and the importance of understanding the legal framework   to protect personal and business assets. The episode also covers current events, including the political climate surrounding protests   and the involvement of the National Guard.   The host discussed the influence of figures like Elon Musk and Sasha Stone and the potential implications of their actions on society.   The conversation is peppered with insights into the challenges   of living under a system influenced by both historical and modern legal interpretations   and the ongoing struggle for personal freedom and sovereignty.  



[01:41:20] Unknown:

I I I'm shocked. Every time Paul reads one of these, Rose, I'm shocked at how accurate those, those descriptions are.  

[01:41:28] Unknown:

And the Yes. Only the description,   but also a full transcript   and also a list of chapters with the time offsets   for when we talked about what. Like,   we talked about federal and state jurisdiction   thirty six minutes into the program,   national status and legal identity fifty four minutes into the program,   legal research and resources one hour and forty eight minutes into the program,   and current events and political commentary two hours and eleven minutes into the program.   It's all right there.  

[01:42:05] Unknown:

It's just unbelievable that we've got this. Our fingertips are pretty comprehensive, isn't it?  

[01:42:11] Unknown:

Very. Yes.  

[01:42:14] Unknown:

So, anyway, all that's right there, Rose. So you can access that. And if you   have problems, you come back and ask again. We'll go over it again for you. Okay?  

[01:42:24] Unknown:

The link is on the matrixdocs.com.   Okay.  

[01:42:28] Unknown:

And I've been meaning to set up or log in to Telegram because I think,   that was   advice for me to do last time I called.  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

Yes. You can join, Merck. To have   I was gonna say just a If I if I could if I could interrupt you, Rose. I'm sorry. You hold where you are.   Merck,   we've had students that are moved by the information here, and they wanna contribute.   And so we've got a number of resources for folks like yourself. Merck's Telegram group is one.   National   status freedom,   three separate words, and you can tap into that.   Merc is very motherly about her group over there, and she's gonna have to okay you to join, but it's a pretty simple process.   She'll send you a message.  

The other one is, Dave and Cade down in Southern Alabama,   have set up a pretty impressive website called nationalstatus.com   or nationalstatus.info,   and they've got a whole regimen over there. They've attached AI to their program, and it will help you generate documents. And there's a whole bunch of stuff over there. You've also got on the website,   Devin's   national handbook   handbook for nationals,   which is a comprehensive   71 page, very detailed,   organizational,   the,   book that he wrote going over all this. You can print and give to people, and there's other resources there. Gary and Gina's three page little folder, and they're just all there's several things that to assist folks in this   that our own students have generated. And I   I I if I left anybody out, I'm sorry. Okay? But there's there's number of places you can go you can go stick your head in and look around. Yes, Paul?  



[01:44:25] Unknown:

On the matrix stocks,   there's two ways you can get at the Radio Ranch archives. There's one you can click on Global Voice Radio Network,   and that's   up to the left of the red text, new students click here   That's to the left of that. Mhmm. Then down below that is the free conference call information where you can join with free conference call. Below that is another link for the Radio Ranch archives. It's Radio Ranch archives click here.   But what Roger's talking about now   is right below that under other resources,   there are two chat rooms. There is the Roger sales tango chat room plus the exposethematrix.room.  

There is also document resources   where those are docs.exposethematrix.com.   The link for that is right there.   And also the telegram groups. There's a PPN Radio Ranch telegram group and a National Status Freedom   telegram group. All the links for all the resources that Roger's talking about are right there under other resources.  

[01:45:35] Unknown:

Yep. So, Rose, do you feel like you just got a drink of water out of the fire hydrant?   Yes.   Okay.   Well, don't let it overwhelm me. Thank you. Don't don't let it overwhelm me. You were ask gonna ask me another question, and we keep interrupting you to make sure you're up to speed on your question there and get all the details.   So what's the part here we need to address?  

[01:46:00] Unknown:

Well well, maybe I need to go in here and and look at this information,   like, under the national status freedom. But what am I supposed to expect anything in the mail after I filed?  

[01:46:12] Unknown:

From the state department with a naked affidavit, nobody ever gets anything back to my knowledge.   Where you may get something back, including a passport is in the passport application.   And they have a section where they say and I guess we got it clarified somewhat the other day. If it's an original   copy of your affidavit, like, in blue ink that you send them,   the passport people should send you that back.   It'll be under separate cover,   in other words, a different mailing than your passport or the passport card.   Also, you,   they they,   well, that comes from their own instructions in the back. They may not send it. They may send it back. I didn't know the other day. Somebody said if it's an original, they'll send it back. That's never been clarified to me before, but that makes good sense.  

But it shows you they'll accept a copy too, and I'd send the copy and keep the original.   Right.   Okay. Yes. So you'll get back, well, you may get back a bluff letter. Don't freak out if you do. Okay.   Occasionally, they'll send something out. They just appear to   pick you arbitrarily. For what reason? I don't know.   And, exactly. But they will send you a letter   challenging your knowledge of saying, like, something like, well, it said it appears by what you've submitted, Rose,   that you   are a citizen of The United States, and they quote part of the amendment.   They say something like this is cannot be waived unilaterally   and blah blah blah. They'll put a bunch of scare stuff in there. And what they're really doing is testing to see how much you know.  

And should you get one of those, you come back and talk to us.   We'll tell you how to address it. You got 90.   And, we've never had anybody that didn't get their documents back that got into that situation.   So don't freak out. It's, a fairly common place. Yes, Paul.  

[01:48:18] Unknown:

Now when she sends in a naked affidavit, she may get a bag of bluff letters saying   that,   there is no way to add,   documents to an existing passport record, which at that point, there wouldn't be one.   Just keep a copy of that letter and then respond to that letter with a thank you for confirming receipt of my citizenship   evidence.   Correct. Now keep a copy   of your thank you letter. Keep a copy of their letter disputing the fact that they cannot add your affidavit to that   and your copy of your affidavit and just attach that to your passport application. Send it all in. Throw it right back at them and cram it down their throat.  

[01:49:00] Unknown:

And it's interesting, Lewis, because some people that get that affidavit,   that letter have never had a passport before. And what they're telling is you can't add something to an existing passport. Well, I didn't never had one before, idiots. See, these are just across the board bluff letters. I got you, Merica. Hold on. And,   so don't freak out should you get one of those. They're all addressable. And, again,   I don't know of anybody but one person that does not gotten their documents when they're challenged.   And that person made a mistake   of not going into this without   hardly any preparation, just her daughter telling her, oh, I want to do that too. And she sent the affidavit in and she didn't keep the copy.  

And so when they told her they couldn't do that, she didn't have anything to confront them with.   So we just let it slide.   Keep copies of everything you send. This is very important.   Do it diligently.   Okay?   Now hold on. Let's see what Merca's got for you here, Rose. Yes, Merca?  

[01:50:06] Unknown:

Good morning. Thank you.   Good, welcome, Rose. And,   they do they do that to confuse people, Roger.  

[01:50:15] Unknown:

So they they can see where they are. See what you They worry about not getting their passport or something. They wanna see what you know. That was a missus Robinson letter that Paul was quoting. It didn't have anything to do with passport application.   It's just another one of their knee jerk reactions thinking they're gonna scare us away, and we're not gonna be scared by a bunch of lying, thieving, murdering, slaving Jews. We're not gonna be afraid. We've got your game. You have to stand silent. We've got you by the shorthairs.   Now we might not have the numbers yet, but one day we will. And one day, this is gonna catch up with you. Okay? Go ahead, Mirka. I was gonna tell I was gonna tell Murk that I'll look for her name, if she gets on there so I can help her. Yes. Okay. Mirka, how do you spell your name?  



[01:51:04] Unknown:

M I r k a.  

[01:51:07] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:51:08] Unknown:

And and on Telegram, you'll see a message from m x.  

[01:51:13] Unknown:

Okay. That's her. Okay? Alright. Thank you. There you go. Alright, Rose. We're gonna shift the attention back to you. No. Don't sign off. We wanna talk to you.   Are there any other things we could help clarify for you and your husband?   Because I wanted to say something for you that came to me. I don't know if we talked about it. One thing you you said you've got your property that you two   ostensibly own.   You've got two sons. Is that right? One of them is ex military   is going to say, well go ahead mom and do that and I'll see how you do. Right?   Okay. Well, here's your question. Here's your question for him. How long are you going to wait?  

You're gonna wait and see how I do. How long are you gonna wait? So you need to ask him that.  

[01:51:58] Unknown:

On the I think he's afraid to lose his,  

[01:52:01] Unknown:

VA benefits. Or he won't lose your VA benefits. No. You won't lose any of that stuff. Nobody ever has.   In fact, we've had people go back and claim their VA benefits that they had never claimed, my friend Harvey Wysong.   And and he had extensively never gone in and claimed because he hates the bastards,   and he got in a financial position and start having to apply to all that stuff. Man, they couldn't send him enough money.   Okay?   So, no. The answer to that question is no. Now here's the other aspect you may wanna consider.   You may wanna think about   putting your property, the house,   and your land, I assume,   into a trust. And you might wanna think about initiating a trust as a vehicle for that. Then you'll avoid probate when when you and   when it comes time, and that property will be passed seamlessly   and privately to the beneficiaries   that you name, which I would think would be your sons. So, anyway, that's something else I thought about after our last conversation. I wanted to be sure. We've got our paralegal, Mark, who's just north of you in Oklahoma,   and he's, helping people do trusts   and sets up a very extensive trust class   where you know exactly what you're doing and you do it yourself with proper guidance.  

So should you wanna participate in that, you let us know, and we'll bird dog you in the right direction. Okay?  

[01:53:32] Unknown:

Okay. Do do   does one fill out a a national affidavit for children?  

[01:53:39] Unknown:

You can.   Yes. As long as they're the guardian. Okay. As long as they're the guardian. If you there there's a divorce and there's split custody and stuff, then,   you should have both of them.   So hopefully, there's none of those problems. But, yes, you can dictate for them even   well, hell, I guess even before they're born, really. But even after they're born, you can do all that and free them from any   potential   involvement with CPS.   The worst federal agency   in the federal government is CPS.   We had a girl. You can go on   well, Merca, if you go on Merca and get in Merca's, you she'll send it to you. We got an eighteen   minute testimonial   from Sarah who,   wrestled her rebellious daughter who was in their custody   away from a children's hospital.  

She was in a meeting with three attorneys, the CPS official, and the hospital administrator.   She walked in and plopped the affidavits down,   and they said leave the room for five minutes.   And they came out and said you and your daughter are free to go.   I've never heard of anybody getting a child out of CPS before. K?   Wow. No. Yeah. That's Okay. So it works.   So yep. Although, what else, Mary, can we help you with?  

[01:55:02] Unknown:

One question.   Oh, for Merica. Got a question. Oh, for Merica. Merica, do you have an a sample affidavit   that a expectant   parent   can file prior to the birth of the child,   claiming that when that child is born, it will automatically be a national and not a citizen?  

[01:55:27] Unknown:

They can type one up themselves.   As a mother and father,   they can write it out for the child,   you know,   their future,   baby,   that that's gonna be born here soon and just dictate that on an affidavit. Yeah. Send them a copy of the sonogram.  

[01:55:46] Unknown:

Send send them a copy of the sonogram so that you have your right with the sex. Right?  

[01:55:51] Unknown:

That That's true. Yeah. Would be an awesome template to have, Mirka. I think that would be an often awesome example. Yeah. You  

[01:55:59] Unknown:

and everybody can dig they can type up their own little affidavit and just make whatever, you know, whatever they wanna say because everybody's gonna be   you know, everybody has a different thought of wording   their affidavits   in a certain way.   You know?   So, you know, it is just an example.   Yep. So we can help them. We can help them with that.  

[01:56:22] Unknown:

Rose, did you know that the whole abortion Roe v Wade thing is based on the amendment?  

[01:56:29] Unknown:

No. I didn't know that.  

[01:56:31] Unknown:

Well, you're not a see, all persons born are naturalized.   See, you're in under the amendment, if you're still in mother's womb,   you're not born yet. So you're not a person yet. So you don't get any protections.   That's why you're in the mom's womb. You're fair game.   The RV Wade decision, I believe, was 270   pages, 200 and something pages long, and it's the only decision from the Supreme Court   that never cited another case.   They never referred to another case of 270   pages of   his wife, Blackman, I think. Blackman's wife is the one that controlled him   because Brent Winters   got to, go to two talks of of Blackman.  

And when they come up and ask a question, otherwise,   after the show, the wife would get in the middle of them and hear.   So it was the evidently, the wife   hen pecking the husband, Blackmon, that wrote that decision that was recently overturned. Thank goodness. It wasn't overturned. It was sent back to The States.   That's the way it should have been handled in the place. And this goes back to the formation of the country. And, they they said, look. It's set up. So if you're in one of these states that wants to okay abortion and you're totally object to that, well, you'd move to another state that doesn't and outlaws it. K?   So, that was original constitutional thinking. Rose, thank you for checking back in. It's so nice to hear from you. And as you grow in this information   and have other questions, you don't hesitate to please come back and see if we can answer them for you. Okay? Because you're the reason we're here. Roger.  

Thank you. Larry Larry's gonna chime in here pretty quick. Thank you, Rose. You don't have much time. Yeah. She,  

[01:58:23] Unknown:

was that Mary that you're talking to? Rose.   Rose. Rose. Oh, okay. Yeah. Rose,   you could maybe Paul could tell Rose   that we we spent about an hour last week   talking about,   these new and improved bluff letters from the state department.   When when a student submits their passport application,   they may get a new and improved bluff letter.   And, so that's something that she can   might expect to come back. Because she asked, is there anything I should expect in the mail? So   that might be one thing   that she can expect, and she can listen to that show.  

[01:59:03] Unknown:

Well, percentage wise, very few people get those, Rose, I think. But you may be, you may be lucky enough to get one. And it's wonderful because it allows you to respond   and learn and understand your power position more. So it strengthens you even though it might,   startle you at   Listen. When I get letters from the IRS, my knees start knocking. I remember the way I was. So I know people are in that mindset, but they all go away, Rose. When you do this, they all just go away,   or else they do what you want them to do. You're welcome, sweetie. We'll look forward to hearing from you. Again, you and hubby are in together on this. Right?  

[01:59:46] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. Absolutely.  

[01:59:48] Unknown:

Wonderful. Fantastic.   Well, maybe we'll get to speak with him one of these days too. So nice to talk to you again. Glad you called in. Thanks for checking.   And, that means, signifies that we're about finished with today's   little session here.   And,   and don't forget, I'm gonna be on should you care to listen. I'll be on with Paul this afternoon.   Paul English, paul English live.com.   And they're I don't know what all we'll talk about. He'll probably,   allow me to get some of our stuff on there because it's important.   Finally, after all these years, I think Paul's starting to understand it, Paul.  

So,   you probably assisted in that possibly. So thank you. Anyway, we'll be over there this afternoon. It should be a lot of fun. And I don't know what happened to the guy from last week, Kevin Hoyt,   that Julie had set us up with. I haven't heard back from him, so   I'm awaiting some kind of,   answer, Julie.   But we can talk about that later. Okay?   That guy from what you wrote me, he's the one that needs our stuff, and he needs it now.  

[02:00:53] Unknown:

So, anyway, hopefully, that'll get sent. It was. And Yep. Yeah. Hold on. We're He's on the run. We're about. Okay. We're about to shut down here. He's on the run. Yikes. So, yes, Paul. What do you got to add right here at the last minute? I have an update on the magicJack. If you order one and you get your confirmation email that they shipped it, check that tracking number. UPS still doesn't have mine from last month.  

[02:01:17] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I may go back and check with them. I want my magicJack.   We'll see. Yeah. Well, I You got a letter you got a confirmation   letter that it had been shipped also?  

[02:01:27] Unknown:

Yeah. I got an email. I I ordered it on the twenty fifth. I got an email on the twenty seventh   that they shipped it. I still hadn't seen it. I went back to the original email, and I checked the tracking number, and UPS doesn't have it yet.   They created the shipment, but they never delivered the product to UPS. My lord. Okay. Well, I have to go back and  

[02:01:49] Unknown:

double check on it. If not, I can't do anything about it. You can't call them. Jack, if they call them, you get India.   Jack had to call them for something a couple weeks ago. He said, hell, Roger. I spent three hours on the phone with them and never did get it done. So I had a lot of problems with the order website the time it went through this time. I'm gonna cross my fingers that   that lady luck is on my shoulder here.  

[02:02:12] Unknown:

I hope so.   Because,   they had to escalate my trouble ticket. I've got two trouble tickets in, and they escalated both of them. So we'll see what happens.  

[02:02:23] Unknown:

Well, I'll screw with it, but it probably won't be this afternoon if I don't get it. And she'll get it on the next trip. Yes. Who's Paul in there? Bori.  

[02:02:32] Unknown:

It it's it's me. It's Bori. Hi, Paul.   I was gonna tell you, you're looking for a phone? Because I use Burner,   and it's an app in the phone. It's just $5.   It's everything unlimited,   and it lets you call everywhere, and it's just $55.   It's on the App Store. It's called Berner,   b   u   r Berner. N e r.  

[02:02:57] Unknown:

Okay. Berner.  

[02:02:59] Unknown:

If you need a phone   Okay. And other thing that was gonna tell you, you're welcome. Helium is another phone service. It's a new service.   It's unlimited everything, and it's just $30 a month.   It's not too.  

[02:03:16] Unknown:

Okay.   Well, we got a bunch of people as I predicted once Skype did this that there'd be a bunch of people trying to jump into this space because   outside of magicJack, I didn't know of any of these other, possibilities, but I'm already committed on that end. So, anyway, thank you, Bory.   Okay. Anybody else? I'm gonna go,   powder my nose and, get ready for, the, Paul English show here in a couple hours. I think Mirka was trying to get in there.   I was just gonna say how fun, Roger. Sounds like a a nice episode with Paul. It is. It's always nice to be on with Paul. It it's always fun to be on with Paul.   So, anyway,   he's such a good guy. So, anyway, I'll see y'all, tomorrow, and tomorrow is Friday. So we'll have Brent and Franny onboard.  

And as all of you know, there's just no telling what a Friday show ends up being about. So we'll we'll wait and see.   But if you've got any legal questions, that might be a good day to,   ask that and get Pete's opinion.  

[02:04:22] Unknown:

We are still on,   we we fell off at Eurofolk radio a few minutes ago. We're still on Global Voice Network,   probably be on Global Voice Network until 2PM eastern.   I'll be taking that stream down to prepare for mirroring Paul English live.   So,   anybody that wants to continue the conversation during the show, go ahead. Please don't mention anything illegal, immoral, or fattening.  

[02:04:47] Unknown:

Thank you. That's right. Paul so, Paul, I'm gonna leave the compute the portable up   so you can come in and do whatever you need to do. Okay?  

[02:04:57] Unknown:

Alright. I will make sure you are connected. I'll I'll leave it open. Okay?  

[02:05:02] Unknown:

So good enough. I'll see some of you this afternoon. If the others have not, we'll see you tomorrow.  

[02:05:08] Unknown:

And if you would periodically,   before showtime,   walk up to the laptop. If it goes to sleep, just wiggle the mouse and and wake it up for me if you you will. It will go to sleep. That's for sure. I'll try and and keep it up. If it goes to sleep, you can't access it? No. I cannot. If it goes to sleep, I I cannot. Just wiggle the mouse Alright.   Thirty minutes before 03:00.  

[02:05:34] Unknown:

Oh, it'll it'll go okay.   At least thirty minutes before. Alright. I'll try and do that. Alright. And, if not, call me or call Jack and have him call me or something. K? Okay. Will do. Alright. Good enough. See y'all tomorrow or later. Ciao.  

[02:05:49] Unknown:

You're welcome. Thanks for asking.  

[02:05:54] Unknown:

Okay, guys. I'm stepping away. You have the ball.   Unless you're not gonna talk about anything, in which case, I'll take the stream down right now.  

[02:06:22] Unknown:

I think somebody fumbled the ball, Paul.  

[02:06:25] Unknown:

I think they did.   About that. Not an not a maverick in the group.   What about Iceman?   Iceman cometh?  

[02:06:51] Unknown:

Was that a that was in a movie. Right? Top Gun. Iceman?  

[02:06:59] Unknown:

Yep. Yep. Marvel?   Maverick and Iceman.   Maverick, Iceman,   the what what other ones   are there? They were the call signs in the used in the movie.  

[02:07:13] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:07:22] Unknown:

The they also had the call sign goose,   but they killed him off during the movie, so I think it's unlikely he's gonna come in here and have anything   to  

[02:07:35] Unknown:

I remember Goose Gossett,   the pitcher.   I forget who we played for.  

[02:07:43] Unknown:

Well and then there was Lewis Gossett junior who,   actually starred in the movie Iron Eagle,   another,   another air force,   fighter,  

[02:07:57] Unknown:

pilot type guy. Right?  

[02:07:59] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:08:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I remember him.  

[02:08:11] Unknown:

That was a good movie.  

[02:08:16] Unknown:

Right?  

[02:08:25] Unknown:

So I guess if anybody's,   you know, hard pressed for something to occupy their time, they could probably look for those. They're probably free on YouTube movies these days.   Get out for a while.  

[02:08:40] Unknown:

Oh, there's a lot of stuff that   is not free   that you would think would be because it's ancient   or it should be.  

[02:08:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   And because they're greedy.  

[02:08:56] Unknown:

Boy, are they ever.  

[02:08:57] Unknown:

Yep. I got a question.  

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Go ahead, Samuel. I was  

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I was wondering,   if you got your local,   gold or silver spot price for that day,   what would you expect to pay over that in your local, like, little coin shops and stuff like that that deal in gold and silver?  

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$3.  

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That's it?  

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Yep.  

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Is there a range? High or low?  

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Yeah. Probably.  

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Some could   you know, there's some real greedy guy out there, but I've heard guys paying, you know, five or more, eight, even 10.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. If I were you, figure out what you wanna buy and and and go price shop it. Call a bunch of dealers in your local town as well as the online ones and ask them what they would charge you. You know, if you were to buy,   they tell them if you wanna buy a thousand dollars of, Silver Eagles,   you know, or whatever you want and price shop them and then go with the lowest price because they don't offer any value added services anyway. They're just shipping a product to you.  

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Okay. Another question. What would you expect to pay for junk silver?  

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You know, the premiums on junk silver were extremely high before, and I wouldn't do that. I would just buy   the cheapest silver that you can find and I would buy the coins. I know other people will tell you the bullions. I wouldn't buy those. I'd just buy the cheap silver coins   and,   and talk it over, with   whoever you are, you know, going to consider getting price quotes from. But definitely   figure out an amount you want to spend. And then, like I said, price shop them because they are all over the place. I know Kirk Elliott charges an enormous amount   of a premium   over the wholesale, which is ridiculous. I spoke to Andy Shechtman on the phone a long time ago, and he said if he's charging that much over wholesale, I could have retired buying now. And and Yeah. And,   10%. Name, Kirk Elliott will tell you that he will buy your your silver back from you,   with no premiums   at all. Yeah. Right, Kirk. That's if your company is still in business. How do you know you're going to be in business when somebody wants to buy it back? And 8% over wholesale   is a lot of a premium to be charging. So, like I said, I go   look at what your   local   dealers in your town, that's probably where you're gonna get the cheapest premium, but maybe not necessarily, and then price shop some of the other ones and negotiate with them over the phone. It's too much. I'm not gonna pay over this for a premium and see what they come back.  



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10% is a pretty good average.   It's on the high side. Yes. But you're gonna see a lot of that. Beginning there.  

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You cut out in the beginning, though.  

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Don't forget.   Shipping   is not cheap.  

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Right.  

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Well, that that's why I'd use a local dealer.  

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Yeah. Get it locally. 10% is about what you can expect. Negotiate from there. They're probably gonna throw that out. And if you think about it, if silver spot is $32,   you know, 10% is $3.20,   and that's about right. That's what Dave said, $3.  

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So And also,   a lot of them give you free shipping. So, as the problem you have is that if you wanna trade it back in and you want them to buy it back from you, that's where you run into difficulties because technically speaking, you should pay   shipping and insurance on those. And insurance is extremely expensive when you're looking at what the value is, as well as what the weight of that package is. I have friends here who are federal expressing this stuff back with only tracking,   no insurance and nothing. And they've got tens of thousands of dollars   of silver. And I just think that that is just very risky to do. So I yield that then that will that will if you pay for insurance and shipping back to a dealer who buys it back from you, that will cut down on your rate of return that you get because that stuff is expensive.  



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That   shipping is reflected in their margin.   It has to come pay be paid by somebody, and it isn't gonna be the the vendor.  

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And, also, it depends on the volume you're gonna buy.   So sometimes the best thing is fine.   What is the price they give you for each unit?   And the Eagles   or anything, the Maples, it's gonna be more expensive than you get what you call the rounds.   Silver rounds, Populos, or or imitation of Eagles, It's gonna be Shibrands, the same thing, point nine nine.   And,   usually, in my case, so in the old days, I can't do it now. Gainesville Gainesville Coins   and,   Going Kai.  

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No. Going Kai, if if I remember right.  

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Someone will be with free shipping, but then the price for each unit will be much higher.   And so you need to see if you're gonna get a two to 20.   If you're possible, you could get a a 500,   then each will cost you much less. So sometimes, not just a premium. That's what you're gonna get from the unit. But the cheapest one will be around, and usually, it's the buffalo.   So whatever company that produces a buffalo round.  

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I carried some silver rounds out the door the other day for 2% over spot.  

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Hey, Joe. While you're here,   I've got   a banger,   and I've got some,   water glassing at about 40%   solution.   16 ounces be enough to put in that block to seal head gasket?  

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I would think so.  

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Okay. And you said leave I've got the thermostat out. I think you said leave the thermostat out. Right? No. Leave the radiator cap on  

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deal. Don't let it pressure.   It might for a while.  

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Oh, leave the radiator cap off, you're saying? Well,  

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you wanna put the radiator cap on, but you wanna put it on the click. You don't wanna screw it all the way down.   Okay.  

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And then run run it up to temperature, how for how long?  

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Oh, I don't know. 100 miles.   K. Whatever whatever comes handy.  

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Well, most of them, you know, when you're talking about this stuff, they   some some tell you to have the car sitting still   and bring it up to temperature and let it be there for, you know, thirty minutes, forty five minutes,   and then turn it off, let it cool down, and then drive. But When the sodium silicate hits air, that's what sets it up.  

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Okay.   It's, you know, it's gonna continue to circulate through the system, but when it hits the air,   that's what.  

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So that 40%   solution, is that the same one that you would use in,   in preserving eggs?  

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You're kinda catching me off guard here. I'm I'm   Okay. That's not on my mind right now, Samuel. I'm I thought it was, like, a 100% stuff,  

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and it it it obviously comes in different grades because   I found 40% as being pretty calm, and I I didn't know that before.   Yeah.   So, anyway, just throwing it out there. Thanks, Joe. You bet.  

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What are you talking about, Samuel?  

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Water glassing eggs or sealing a head gasket?  

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With what?  

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With the water glassing solution.  

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I've never even heard of it. Sodium silicate.   Sodium. I heard of that.  

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Yeah. If you take a if you take an egg that that you don't take the bloom off the egg. If you have head and crap or something like on it, you flick that off. But if you put them in a solution of this, it seals the pores   that are naturally in the calcium on the egg. And without refrigeration, that egg will they say it'll last up to a year   Okay.   If you if you put them through that process.  

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Yeah. I heard you could do that with mineral spirits as well.  

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You know? Thing, I guess, that would close that pore, but, the water glassing is an old technique. It's   was used in the olden days.  

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What did they say the sodium silicate?   Isn't that sand?  

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It is.   Well,   I don't know exactly what it is. And I'm not even sure I've I've got the term right.  

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It's not sand.   Sand is silicate.  

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Right.   Isn't it a form of sand? Silicate?  

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Well, it's probably like some kind of a salt, I would guess.  

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Well, with the sodium, it's gotta be a mixture. Right?   Yeah.  

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Don't put any mineral spirits on your eggs. It's mineral oil.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. The the water glassing of eggs isn't   tried and true.   You know? And even if you have a, like, a root cellar, they'll probably even last longer than a year as long as you keep that temperature lower. You know? Mhmm.   So if you get a good deal on eggs,   well, the problem is is you don't want them washed. It's best to buy them from a local guy who's   not cleaning them   because they don't they they they don't really want you they want they want you to have the bloom still on the egg.  

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Samuel, if,   once that seals,   I would drain that solution   and put in my antiphase. I wouldn't leave it in there permanent.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. Tried all kinds of mechanic in the can,   including the, the head gasket test and, it was a diesel. So   it said it would work on either exhaust,   and I wasn't detecting anything.   I'm wondering if I might have a,   my water pump or an old small component or something like that   pumping air into the system, and it's not actually the head gasket.   Because what happens is it   I get the bubbles in the in the water,   and   when it gets hot, that pushes the water out almost like it's steam. Right?   And,   I can't figure it out. It it you would think it's a head gasket, but that chemical test where it's supposed to turn a color to let you know if there's exhaust in there   isn't working. So   Yeah.  

Somehow, there's being air pumped into the coolant system.   I've never seen that before and not be a head gasket, but   I don't know.   Stymied.  

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Are you making water or are you making oil?  

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No. There's there's nothing getting into the oil   part of the system.   There's just air in the water system   being pumped into the water system.   Yep. Okay.   I'm wondering if it could be somehow the water pump   is pushing air in somehow. In fact, I was gonna just disconnect the belt on the water pump and see if it stops   as a test.   Yep. But I've got some old disconnected smog crap on this thing. It's an '82   Datsun diesel.   And   the guy who owned it originally   took all the smog stuff off, so I have no idea what that stuff could be doing.   If it failed and there's well, I can open one way,   you know,   coming into the water jacket somehow.  

Could be that. You know?  

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Here's what you do. That's a very good idea.   Do that and see what happens. And regardless,   a water pump is easier to get to and much less expensive.   Just change it out and see what happens   because you don't wanna pull the head on that. Not unless that is absolutely it and it's defined.  

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Yeah.   Well, I have another reason to pull ahead if I if I wanted to, but, I've got   poor valve seals too.  

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But If you if you need to pull ahead, pull ahead   and fix it because,   you know,   the what the water glass on a diesel   is a whole bunch different than on a gas line because of the compression ratios.  

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Right.  

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And,  

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I don't know But, Joe, see, I'm not even sure I'm not even sure it's the head gasket. That's the problem because I'm not getting an emission   indicator on the chemical test. Well, the thing is, though,  

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if you pull the head and put a new head gasket on it and and   do it properly,   then you know you've gotta go someplace else if it still does it.   That's a long way to get to there. Well wanna do it. But you said you need you need to pull the head anyway.  

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So Well, I could do the valve seals without pulling the head, but it would not be another reason.   It'd be easy to do with you. Otherwise, I've gotta get something to, you know, keep that keep the valves from falling in there,   pressurize each hole and, you know, all that shit. So  

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You stuff a rope in the hole.   Yeah. Eject or stuff a rope in the hole.  

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Yeah. I've seen that technique. I don't know if I trust it.  

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It works.  

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It works. How do you know you got enough rope down there?  

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When you can't poke anymore in.   Yeah.  

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Well, if you have some experience at that, I'd feel more comfortable with it, but I've never done that before. I've usually just compressurize   pressurize the whole to hold the valves up and then   get it. So and I wouldn't have to pull the head, of course,   for that. But, you know, I'm sorry. I I'm at work. I should get back to it. Appreciate all the help.   Okay.  

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Daniel, before you go Yeah.   I had you at Georgia, Idaho. Had you guys,   anybody yourself included, ever heard of   kinda novating a contract   by   trying to pay with, $20,   money order to, you know, kind of as earnest money toward a bill.   And, because it's, you know,   still silver or whatever, the US postal money order supposedly,   Basically, they won't answer you,   and the bill goes away,   because you're basically so you're not questioning   the the debt under the   the public debt you are or,   you are, you know, still   trying to pay.   You're kinda changing the terms of the contract   with the latest response. You know, they send you an invoice or a bill, then you send them   payment in gold and silver, if you will.  

So I I don't know if anybody's heard of that. I mean, it's over $20, so it'd require jury trial.   They were gonna proceed to  

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yep.  

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If they I have no no idea about any of that,   but   I am getting this book ordered,   by Benjamin and Shipman on common law pleadings.   It's over 600 pages,   and it's it it covers everything, including abatements,   which   I'm curious to see more about the abatements and how they were handled at common law.  

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Right. So, yeah, this is kind of a a way to do, you know, dating any bill, not just something that you have a ticket or something, but actually   any, you know, contractual   relationship   that became part of the amendment franchise. You know? Because I can't Well, there's gotta be something to the postal money orders because Brose  

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says that once you're out of that amendment deal, once you do your declaration what he calls your declaration of independence,   that at that point, you should,   never pay a bill across state lines unless it's with a postal money order, and you should never have a interest bearing account,   bank account.   Those two things.  

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And, you know, so that you know, this this is why I wanted to ask you particularly because I know you studied it. And   but I thought it was really interesting is you're actually novating the contractual relationship,   with the way they were doing this,   this letter.   And if they can't answer it, you know, they have no answer because   they've got to be in the franchise or corporation or whatever.   So but you're, you know, you're   all caps name or whatever is   a franchise. But if you're paying on the, you know, on demand side of things, you're actually making a good effort to pay. And, again, I wouldn't do this in a man to man thing, but in a corporate thing, you know, I'm like, jeez. This really this fits in with what we've been talking about, you know, with the $20   back to the common law and also with,   you know, the study that you've you've brought to the table with, the fact that postal money orders are still good, you know, wealth of money.  



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Well, maybe that's that's the   assumption, but I'm not sure it's what how valid it is anymore today. But I've known guys in the past to try to discharge the IRS out of their life. They've they'd offered them gold and silver.   And, of course,   that was, an attempt to pay,   and, they couldn't take it. And that way, they discharged that debt. So   but, again, I don't know personally people who did that. That's just,   you know, party information as well from a really good source, but   nonetheless,   no personal experience.  

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Well, it's interesting on that note. I heard a story the other day that somebody paid monopoly money and the IRS went away. Because, basically, that's all that it is. Right? Is, you know, $1 if you look on the back of a real $1,   it's got the seal. But then if you look at the The bucket   rest rest of the money,   you know, the $5 bill doesn't have a seal on it. So it's a a dollar. The $10 is a dollar, you know, and so on and so because it's just fractionated. Right? Everything's just fractionated.   So  

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Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.   Okay.  

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Thank you.  

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Do do y'all know about UCC three dash six zero three?   Tender of payment.   ECS3.  

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I heard about that.   I heard about that the other day in reference to a, call I was listening to. Go ahead.  

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And well, anyway, that has to do with that tendering of payment with silver and gold.   But it there's also another one. And I didn't read all of it. But   the 31 CFR   three twenty eight point six,   requirement   of endorsement   that goes with that.   But anyway, just   Thank you. Having to do having to do with that  

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payment.  

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And there's also 42 US code 1994.   Pee peonage   abolished.  

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Wow. That's huge. What year is that from?  

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I'm not I'm not sure, but I think it's 1994.  

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Yeah. That's typically how they do this. You know?  

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The holding of any person to service or labor under the system known as peonage   is abolished   and forever prohibited in a territory or state of The United States,   and all acts, laws, resolutions,   orders, regulations,   or usages   of any territory or state.   That's 42 USC   nineteen ninety four, peonage   abolished.  

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And and what does that mean again?  

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That they can't hold us,   and I say us, The US Of America,   under slavery.   Peonage. Peonage is like peons.   O u peon.   You'd have to look it up and study it. So  

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I don't trust anything in the UCC code as being used by us   to get a remedy.   I think we have I agree. To that. You gotta live really what   You know? So  

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that I can't see all of it, but at the end of it, it says all of these are null and void.   Like I say, we study this stuff, but they don't they don't   they would get whatever   in a quarter or whatever   for whatever reason.   I   don't   know.   They they only go by, oh, you owe us money, so you gotta pay.   We're gonna   hold   you we're gonna hold you in contempt. You gotta pay.   And but wait a minute.   So you're saying my if I don't pay, you're holding me to slavery?   Well, it's   abolished. amendments abolishes   it in your system.   So how am I I'm I'm just saying.   I'm not very steady, man.  

But that other one that,   UCC three six zero three,   I say the law the   them.   And when I say them,   all government officials, police power,   sheriffs,   they they operate under those   that systems. I know that we,   US noncitizen nationals,   don't have to, but they don't know that we're noncitizen   nationals.   Everyone I brought this up to, let's say,   like, tax season. You know? Oh, man. I gotta pay   I gotta pay $10,000   in taxes. I said,   that's your that's your business.   You wanna know how to get out of it? Yeah. How do I get out of it? Well, this is this. Yeah. But yeah. But   I don't know. Look. I'll give you Roger's number. Listen to him. Listen to the the,   you guys.  

So   you wanna complain that you owe $1,012,000   dollars.   You don't wanna do anything about it. You wanna just keep giving them your money.   Well, I don't wanna keep   handy under slavery. I don't wanna keep handing them my money.   But you, on the other hand, wanna complain, bellyache,   this and that, but and then you don't wanna do nothing about it. When somebody brings a good   some good information, do your own homework. I agree. Do your own homework,   but do it.   Don't just sit on your hands and not do nothing about it.   Like, Roger was talking about, still we're going up, and it's going up. It's almost $37   an ounce right now.  

Well, if I had a got in when he said over there and bought all that   small increments,   I'd be getting myself   protecting myself   out of that slavery system   for when I do send them a silver coin   and they send it back, so that UCC three code   603,   I just tendered the payment,   rejected it.   So as far as I'm concerned, I consider it paid, and then they're gonna start coming after me saying, oh, you owe taxes. No. I don't. I sent you. Here's the documentation that I sent you, and you sent it back. You rejected me.   So now you're saying that I'm so now you're being dishonor.   You're in dishonor   under 31 CFR   three twenty eight point five.  

I'm sorry. UCC three dash five zero five   evidence of dishonor.   And you're   saying that you rejected my payment   as tender,   and now you're coming and attacking me?   Let's let's   let's have a discussion about it. I don't wanna argue about it. If I owe you, I owe you. But if I don't,   then you're gonna pay.  

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And how did you try to pay?  

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I'm sorry?  

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Sorry. How did you try to pay? I didn't catch that.  

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I tried to pay in in a dollar a silver dollar, a silver coin.   Mhmm.   And they rejected.  

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So yeah. So the method that they were talking about on when I was listening to this method and they had some they had some, instruction sheets with it, was to pay with the money order. Then when they reject it, then you you do a cum la cure on them. You know,   you come back. Okay.   So you're you're no babying the agreement. You know? So you're   coming up with a new agreement.   So it's not just I mean, I've gone through a window in or in court, and I've tried to pay with different things, but I never, like, finished off the notating the contract by, alright.   You know, get it, like, an affidavit. Send them certified mail, you know, just confirming that you're I'll give you ten days or whatever to to accept this payment.  

You know, you submit it again, then they don't do it. You know, everything's three times. Right? Then they   don't do it again. And   so   Right. That that magical three times.  

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Right.   The three time the the, three strike rule.   Correct. And that was and that goes back to the biblical times.  

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Three Yes. In fact yeah. In fact,   you basically in court, you say, you know, what, say   because they're using the they're using the all caps, you know, corporate   person person that we think we are. So you're in a court. You say, you know what?   Say three times does the state register   people. You know? Well, no. They they would never admit to that. Just register as events. They won't answer the question. You say it three times, and you just say the our father.   Get on your knees. Just say the our father. And just keep saying the our father, and they'll let you out of there.   Can't do anything.  



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I agree with that.   Three. The numb the numbers mean numbers mean something. Three means something. Seven means something. Six means something.   One, two, three, four, five,   seven.  

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Right. Because that that's like say you know, all the statues and stuff is kinda like Satan's kingdom. You know?   We have to kinda get get by Satan in order to   because he's the ruler of the earth. Okay?   God   God allows him here. So but to get to God, we gotta kinda go through Satan. Yeah. And,   some have said that birth certificate,   is a kind of Christ. You know? For it's a it's a forgiveness of death,   like, as above, so below. Right?   On earth as it is in heaven.   But they kinda they kinda set up the system to   we can accept just like we accept the Lord. You know? We accept Christ.  

We accept the birth certificate,   but it's gonna be on the terms that we   that we tell them. You know? So   just like accepting crisis on our our own terms, it's our free will. Right?   So Mhmm. Pretty interesting   way to look at things.   You know? So   we have the esoteric as well as the forget the opposite of esoteric, but  

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Oh, I agree. Does not the blood of Christ pay this debt?  

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The blood of Christ pay this debt. Pay the debt.  

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Right. And when you think about it, they take that what is that? Gurney car card or something? They take the the baby's,   blood.   And then when you're doing a marriage certificate to get a blood test,   what's that all about? You know?  

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That's that's covering their   that's covering their actions.  

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Right. So Everything everything  

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everything that Christ did, Satan's gonna try to mimic.  

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Correct.  

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So if they're taking blood from us, they're saying that our blood is gonna be the covering over that   marriage or that,   birth or that   so we're taking it upon ourselves, men, as men,   to be on that other side,   good and evil.   We got them two angels, the good angel on the right side and the bad angel on the left side. Hey. Do this. Do this. Hey. Don't do that. Hey. Do this. Do this. Hey. Don't do that.  

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Right.  

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So the idea is that you accept the birth certificate, then you surrender it to the county, you know, in the county,   and then you are able to make the claims. You know? You have a claim to handle it.   You're one with Christ now. You know? And you're you're in his kingdom, you know, on earth as it is in heaven. You're not   you're not trying to fight the death the death death world.  

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Right. Because, yeah. When I was talking about that,   I forget who oh, it's Carl Carl in Utah.   He said that,   either,   Julie or Nancy or somebody told him about   when you apply for that long form birth certificate from whatever state you are,   then you send it back to the   to that state where you were born and get it I forgot what he said it was. So,   purified or   five or something like that. Authenticated  

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or office deals.  

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And then and then have it sent you get it back, and then you send it to the state as you know, here's here's your   here's your   here's all your paperwork. I don't want nothing to do with it. Keep it.   I don't I don't need it. And I noticed that when I sent them   when I got this passport   because I live in Carlsbad, New Mexico, but that passport card has nothing to say about that me   living in in Carlsbad, New Mexico.   And then I'm born in Texas.   Oh, yeah. That's where I was born.   That   that passport card has nothing to   do with and now I'm using that as my   my identification card.  

ID and and registration one. This is all I got. Yes. Yeah. It's, I think you meant to say the word apostille,  

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o p o s t I l l e. I think that's the same thing as an authentication   certificate,   which is basically part of the nineteen sixty one Hague Convention.   If your country is part of that, you need an   apostille.   Otherwise,   you can get an authentication   certificate,   if that makes any sense.   A  

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p o  

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s t I l l e. I think that was what was discussed before whether you want to get   authentication   or   apostille.   And it says that the country is part of the nineteen sixty one Hague Convention,   you will need   an apostille.   And then it says that the process depends varying on the state where the birth certificate was issued. So, in California, the California Secretary of State can issue   an apostille for birth certificates issued in California.   And you usually have to I think you've got to go to the,   the vital records,   and then,   you get a,   copy of your birth certificate with a raised or a stamped seal,   and you just fill out the application form and pay the fees. And then,   you wait for the processing. It can take a few days,   if that makes sense.  



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No. It does. I'm I'm just saying I did it. I did all that passport stuff without doing all that, and I yeah. I could still go back and do it.  

[02:44:11] Unknown:

Right. And I just got my marriage certificate too because I wanna either   claim that under the UCC   or,   use it as part of my, renovating of,   paying the like, the idea of paying with a $20,   money order,   paying, off the if they accept it at the mortgage servicing company. And when they don't, then go to make that thing go away by,   the common law default.   But I want to send the marriage certificate because I wanna prove that I'm I have an interest in the,   you know, in in the slavery that they're doing under under my wife by she using the Federal Reserve System.  

[02:44:52] Unknown:

Right. And you can go to YouTube.   They have, videos that say how to office steal a state of California birth certificate,   and then they also have videos on how to get PSA authenticated birth certificate   as well.   So I yield.  

[02:45:12] Unknown:

Yes. I'm gonna authenticate   my marriage   certificate the same way as I do doing my birth certificate   just so that they know. And then whatever notary that you use, you get there, say, I've got an Idaho notary, then I could send up their notarial to get that authenticated. That's a legitimate,   you know, justice of the peace, if you will, or a peace officer   law officer.   Because it's one thing to have the notary stamp, but really you want that authenticated as well.  

[02:45:52] Unknown:

If I may, sorry to go back in time. I had a phone call.   I started to write down. A gentleman was talking about a UCC one something   about   paying   or being tendered and refused. Can I please have that string of numbers again, please?  

[02:46:17] Unknown:

Yeah. I think that was New Mexico six, something 603.  

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UCC3Dash603,   and it's tender of payment.   But there's several others that go with it. I I I just found these out yesterday or last night.   I didn't go through all of them, but,   31   CFR   twenty   eight and six,   requirement of endorsement,   your signature or your   x.   And   it's   a 31 CFR   three twenty eight   point five   forms of endorsements.   UCC three dash   five zero five   evidence   of dishonor.   And I didn't go through all of them,   but I'm going to.  

[02:47:24] Unknown:

Okay.   Your your name, sir, please?  

[02:47:29] Unknown:

Jerry Garcia.  

[02:47:30] Unknown:

Oh, Jerry. Hi. This is Sheldon. Okay. You sound different. I'm on a different phone now.   Okay. I would just I'll be like I'll be listening for more and check those as much stuff if I can. Thank you very much.  

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Yes, sir. I would just like to interject my paranoid,   view of all of that stuff is   this government,   from everything I've read,   looks at everything they've done   as a benefit to us.   And if it's a benefit to us in their mind, when you use it, you owe them   something   back.   So when it comes to using UCC,   doing trusts,   any of this stuff, using using Babylon to fight Babylon, I think   could not   potentially be I mean, even we discussed one day,   why don't we just make up our own forms? We got a form to file. Like, I'm doing a a quitclaim deed. Well, I made my own form up because I didn't want their form. I didn't want an AP number and all that crap on there, which is standard practice,   which is a taxation number.  

You know? I mean, remember Obama, the arrogant SOB, when he said that   American business didn't really build anything? It's all because the government did it.   I mean, that's how these guys think. I even read where if you take home delivery, that's a freebie.   Well, because it's a freebie, that gives them jurisdiction.   So Yeah. You owe.   Oh, just be careful and just think about it. And  

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anything that you create,   you control.   Yes. They've created   everything   us, unbeknownst to us, under under guys,   under mask,   under hoods,   under they've they've created all these forms. They've created them.   And we,   it through whatever you wanna call it, ignorance or   knowledge or whatever,   you go over there and we sign their forms, and that puts us in their   in their, like you say, jurisdiction.   Well, I agree with you. Why don't we create?   I'm gonna I'm gonna start trying to learn how to create my own stuff. That way, I can control it. My own trust,   my own   passport, my own I'm gonna make my own.  

That way, I can control it. I'm not gonna send it to anybody, but I'm gonna show them if I create it,   then I control  

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You know, Richard McDonald uses the term, like, when he's in court and stuff, that it's his wish.   And   and it and it's his will   that they need to follow.   And I think if we just kept that in mind as state citizens   and started   living more like that instead   of having one foot in Babylon and one foot in state citizen,   we we might do better in   turning the tide because,   let's face it, they control everything. I mean, I couldn't chime in the other day on the ZIP code and all that stuff, but if you read the Buck Act,   which I did a long time ago,   Pretty clear   that those things help give them jurisdiction. The abbreviation of the state,   they own that.  

The ZIP codes, they own that.   So   if you're not putting a parenthesis around it,   etcetera,   then you're using their stuff.   And   I just   what is the harm   in having a a location instead of an address   and   trying not to be a resident as much as you can possibly,   you know, do in that regard to   ward that off, I think,   you know, the lower   people in this circus aren't gonna know this,   but I think as you get higher up in that system, they do.   And the whole idea is to get this   these notices out to people who are in the know, like   our attorney generals of our states   and,   a solicitor general of our states and our   local prosecutors. Actually, we give them some case law to go by.  

They really don't have an excuse   that way if they've been properly noticed   not to take notice and to leave us to hell alone.   You know? Or at least we have a good cause against them if they do try to attack us. So   and that would include the name in that as well. So,  

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anyway,  

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I should be working. I got myself locked out by my client, so   took me a while to get in. I had to take the door off the hinges today.  

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I see what you mean, Samuel.   If they don't use it right off, it's always something in their back pocket   about what you said earlier a couple pages back. I I understand the risk.  

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That's why that judge could say to Joe, hey. You put gas in your car?   I got jurisdiction.   You're in commerce.   I mean, how clear could it be?   Yeah. These these these guys think they own us.  

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No. They know they own us.  

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Are you Somebody We've been scared to be owned.  

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George, even Roger was saying earlier,   oh, man. I was scared to death of the of the IRS coming up to my front door. Well, why why we   why? Why? My I got I have my my cousin is the same way. Oh, no. I'm gonna pay him because I don't want the IRS   coming and knocking on my door. You know what? I want I wanna invite them to come over here and knock on my door.  

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Here. Knock on my door. Let's  

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let's have a discussion.   Yeah. Most people don't. Why? Because they're afraid. They fear. They don't they don't go by what the Bible says. God God Jesus Christ says you don't don't fear. You have nothing to fear.   You fear because you do not believe.   I fear. Yeah.   Help me believe. I wanna believe.  

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Yeah. I wanna believe. A good point, Jerry. I appreciate that point.   But I I've had run ins with these characters, and I just assume avoid as many of them as possible.  

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So so would I? But the thing is, are we gonna be just caved up as hermits in our in our own little caves?   Even Adam left. Even even Adam left his cave   because, he got tired of Eve saying, hey. Build me this. Build me a house. Build now I need a car. Now I need furniture.   He went out and got a thing and built it for her. Here you go.  

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My people suffered her for lack of knowledge.  

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People feared for the lack of knowledge. Exactly.   Through you guys,   I get a lot of knowledge. I don't understand it.   But you know what? I'm not gonna be scared of these guys coming.   I   mean, my wife fears these guys.   I tell you, honey, I you know, I'm I'm the man. I'm here to protect like   Brent Winter says.   The man protects. And when the man's away from the house,   the men protect. And when if the women have grown children,   they help her protect the the territory.   Well, this is my house. I keep saying this is my house. This is my land.   You didn't you didn't help me pay for it. Where were you when my kids were getting sick?  

Where were you when my kids needed food? Where were you when well, ain't that what the Bible says?   Lord, let me in. Let me in. Well, where were you? Who are you? I don't know. You get away from me. Oh, man. Lord, don't do that to   me. Where were you? Where were you?   City council member? Where were you, state representative, when I sent you that letter and you ignored me and didn't send me nothing? Where were you, attorney general, when I sent you my citizenship   affidavit   and and all I got was that return receipt? How come you didn't answer me? When were you when I called you and said, hey. Look. These people murdered a man right here in my city, and you're not doing enough nothing about it. Why?   You didn't you won't answer my phone. And then I I called the FBI,   and I get well   well, you need to obey. What? Who who do I need to obey?  

You need to do your job. You don't even wanna do your job, FBI,   man.   And now they won't even answer my calls.   I have so much junk going on right here in my poor little city   of Carlsbad, and I try to help these people.   They just like, all these riots that are going on. Shut up. You're you're just a ignorant dumb old Mexican. Go go back into your house and stay there. Okay.   Oh, 10,000.   Okay.   Let's   here's here's some literature. Read it. Here's some stuff on on how to get your   I did I put my I put my little acre and a quarter right here in Carlsbad, New Mexico under   that man's land patent.  

They haven't messed with me yet.   You know what I mean?   Because I thought it belonged to me.   But, no, it was under a warranty deed.   What does a warranty deed   grant you? The warranty deed only grants you equity.   Equity interest in that. And now the warranty deed my warranty deed here says joint tenant. Wait wait a minute.   My wife's not my tenant.   Wife is my wife. Who am I a joint tenant with? Well, I'm a joint tenant with the city of Carlsbad, New Mexico Corporation.   And you gotta pay. No. I don't.   Started studying on how to do that land patent, and I did it, and I recorded it. Now   go over there   and look that it's recorded in the county  

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Yeah.  

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Under my   name.  

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Hello. Anyway,  

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how are you?  

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Lovely. I'm doing that very traditional   program that tried to work.   And then two years later,   they had a new member as a board.   They changed everything. And so the boys used to wear khakis or native pants and and the girls used to wear any of their   It's   Nike quartz. White Nike.   The worst vision, which I'm like, wait.  

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Correct.  

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Exactly.   And I'm like, wait. That doesn't mean that.  

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Once a land patent is issued, it stands as the highest evidence of legal title.   A patent to land is the judgment   of the land department   and the conveyance of the title in execution of it to the party adjudged   entitled.   And when the land described   was in the jurisdiction of the subject to the deposition   of the land department,   it is impervious   to collateral attack.   Ness   versus United States.   One six five f two seven three   two seven seven   nine one   t c a two forty one.   A patent is recognized as the highest evidence of title conclusive   against the government and all claiming under junior titles   under junior patents   or treaties   until it is set aside or annulled by some judicial   tribunal.  

United States v Mullen,   10 f seven eight five   seven nine two,   Vayner v   Stanley   one three f   two one seven   two two three.   Are you?  

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Gary, there's one caveat there that I would like to mention is property can't own property.  

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This I understand very well.  

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So when you make your when you make your claim,   you will you need to let them know who you are. So   I'm attaching my affidavit to my quitclaim.  

[03:03:36] Unknown:

I'm attaching I attached all affidavits, and I make extra copies.   And with everything that I do from now on, there'll be an affidavit.  

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I'm I'm,   I'm quitclaiming the old the old me to the new me,   by the way, and then attaching,   the affidavits   along with   my statement   of landfatt and then elodeon   attached to the quick claim. Is a quick claim the only things my county will recommend or   recognize as something that they can file,   but they don't have restrictions on attachments that you can put onto that document.   So as strict as crazy as California is, I would assume that you got at least that much leeway within all their states out   there. So that's the way I think   would be a proper approach.  

So because   when Roger said that,   it's the thing I thought about   was my future   attempt in 2010   to do the land patent then.   I realized that it was meaningless   based just on that.   Yeah. I yield.  

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Like I say, it's a huge creative,   and I'm I'm I'm working on it myself because I'm still you know?   We're all gonna struggle,   Like, just like the Bible just like the Bible says.   On this earth, you'll   you'll be have trial and tribulations,   and it's it's gonna be a struggle.   Are we are we any better than Jesus Christ to not think   that we're gonna suffer that that even all them   the suffrages   I forgot what it was.   Women's suffrage,   with all this, you know, LGBTQ, all the alphabet letters,   all the flags going up, and   and then we get this   this president   and   all the whole the whole assembly   has a prayer over him.  

And, and what does the Bible tell us? I said, when when any brothers or sisters are struggling,   all all the those believers in Christ come together and pray over him.  

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Then  

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and then he will be healed.   Our land our land   land is not here. Our land is in total   decay.   And we,   we say we believe, need to come together   even in our own, even on this   station,   even on this communication. We need to come together and pray together   so that our land will be healed.   When the king when the king,   does his own thing   and gets away from   of,   God,   the land   decays.   But when a righteous king comes in, boy, the people rejoice. Oh, look at dude. Look at all the good things he's doing, and then he turns away.  

[03:07:19] Unknown:

Jerry, that's the other thing I'm doing in my document. It's,   on the one that's the land patent and the elodio   right claim.   I'm taking that   through Jesus Christ as a Christian as my inheritance.  

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As an inheritance.  

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And where I got that is out of the book of the hundreds.   They talk about land. They talk about the land patents. They're pretty much of the view that   the land patent itself is   is their stuff, and it's sort of meaningless where the elodeums   are real.   And all land in this country according to Libros is elodeal.   But, again, you can't be property to own property.   And the book of the hundreds says that you can take that inheritance because true elodiums are only by inheritance. You cannot pay for them according to them, and they have some law to back it up.   So   but you can take that inheritance through   the one that owns it, and that's Jesus Christ.  

But if you wanna mighty. But if you wanna see the wording for that, Jerry, get the copy of the book of the hundreds and look in the area where it has,   definitions.   There's about a page and a half on land.   I think that would be helpful for you to do do what you wanna do.  

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Look. All through the Bible, God tells he told Abraham, go to this land that I'm gonna give you as an inheritance. He told Joshua, go to this land   that I'm gonna give you as an inheritance.   Well, it's a command to take dominion. Right? Command to take dominion over what? Over the land.  

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Yeah.  

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And everything in under his under his authority, not some man made   I call him a Jacobite.   They come and say, oh, you you owe taxes.  

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If some Looney Tunes judge in a black robe   wants to,   disagree with the creator, he can do that all day long as far as I'm concerned.  

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The problem is they're dragging us   in with them.   And most of us don't wanna stand up.   If if you lose just one right, you don't have any rights   according to their laws, to their,   statutes,   and and and their, judgments.   The Supreme Court said, if you don't know your right,   you don't have any rights   in several in several cases.   Well, that's why we're being dragged in as citizens and residents and thanks to Roger.   With that one sentence and showing us that non citizen   ship affidavit on that travel.state.gov,   and then they come back   your passport book.  

They put you down as a poor me. They put me down with that letter p as a poor dead Mexican. They can't own nothing because I'm property. Well, wait. You're you're defaming me now. So now under that UCC   three   six zero three oh, no. Not 603. I'm sorry.   Twenty eight six. I'm gonna go I'm gonna sue the state department   for defaming me by making me a popper. I'm not a popper.   I'm not a poor dead anything,   and I am not property.   And that's the way I'm on the word, and then I'm gonna send them again. I've already sent them three   citizenship affidavits.  

I sent them another one. Here here's   told you this is what I am. I am a noncitizen   national.   I'm assuming that that's what that card that when I went to the airport and I told them,   they stuck it in that one   computer, then they made me move over to that other   line.   And they stuck it in that computer, and then, you know, they had their discussion and whatever. I'm assuming that they saw something and said, well,   we better let this Mexican go through and put whatever. I'm not you know? I'm just saying. We better let him go through   and and not cause a bruise. You know?  

But what I'm upset about is that that passport,   book.   Why are you defaming me by putting that letter p? I'm no proper,   and I'm not property   according to your 12 presumptions of court. Number seven.   Proper like you say, property can't own property, so they're still considering me their property. Well, I'm not their property.   And I'm gonna write up another.   It'll be nice, but it'll be kinda   another letter.   And then I'm gonna put my affidavit again, and then I'm gonna put not just that, but I'm gonna put that   USP fifteen one one.  

Trust   I trusted you to do the right thing,   and I'm gonna put this,   UCC three five zero five evidence.   Now you're acting in dishonor   in your position.   Have that   and I'm gonna stick that citizenship affidavit in there again   and wait for a response.   Anyway  

[03:13:44] Unknown:

Why would you say you're a noncitizen national? Isn't that applicable to   the Samoa,   islands?  

[03:13:54] Unknown:

Once I say that?   No. Because that's   that's that certificate. It says   citizen of non   nationality,   the   certificate.   That's what it states.   Certificates of noncitizen   nationality.   And when I signed that, I I turned one of those in too. I I made a copy of that one.   They didn't send that back.   They kept   it with my when I filed for my passport.   And I had that one noted on us too.  

[03:15:01] Unknown:

Yeah. But I thought that we are not   I thought a non   citizen national is someone born in American Samoa,   and that   that's not applicable to us unless we were born there.  

[03:15:17] Unknown:

No. Because the paragraph on that   says all   US citizens are   US nationals.  

[03:15:27] Unknown:

Yeah. That doesn't make any sense to me because The US national is property.  

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Exactly.  

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That's why they put that on my passport, the letter Right. Right. But I think that, Rogers said they hide national behind.   They hide the actual just national   status behind one of those terms. And I I think it's The US national or the nonces the national that it's hidden behind.   And there again, if they're hiding something Yep. They are. They're hiding it on there on that passport application. I remember him saying they they took it off, and now it's hidden behind one of those terms so that we can't figure out which one.  

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And I cannot what he said If they're hiding if they're hiding that stuff, I just I just committed,   a a degree felony by citing a fraudulent contract.  

[03:16:18] Unknown:

Well, you didn't because if they're,   omitting   information,   that's fraud on their part.  

[03:16:25] Unknown:

Right.   I'm just saying.   I know I'm grabbing the straws, but   if we don't get out of not becoming their property,   then we'll always be somebody's property.   And, like,   or Samuel was saying property can't own property.   So all this property that I think I own, I don't own it still,   including myself.   And I don't own a bunch of property.  

[03:17:23] Unknown:

You could pretty much,   kill any presumption by saying, does the state,   register   people?   They will not answer that. If they answer yes, it's involuntary servitude. If they answer   no, then you just say, what am I doing here?  

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What was that? Does the state   own any property?  

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Does the state register people?   Referring to the birth certificate. Does the state register people?   If they say yes, then it's involuntary servitude.   If they say no, say, what am I doing here? Because they register an event.   So you they're you're not in you're you're not in.   Your   birth certificate is.  

[03:18:11] Unknown:

Right.   Do y'all catch me in there, like you said?  

[03:18:17] Unknown:

In other words,  

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yep.  

[03:18:40] Unknown:

I gotta run off the call quick.  

[03:18:43] Unknown:

I'm I'm with all you guys.   Help. I need somebody   help. Not just anybody.   When I was younger, so much younger than today.   I never needed anybody's   help in any way.   Help me now because I'm dumb and stupid.