In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles dives into the complexities of navigating the legal system as a national, focusing on the challenges and strategies involved in dealing with traffic violations and the broader implications of personal sovereignty. Brian Howard joins the discussion, sharing his personal experiences with traffic court and the lessons he's learned over 15 years of challenging the system. The conversation touches on the importance of understanding legal nuances, the role of affidavits, and the potential pitfalls of engaging in legal battles without adequate preparation.
Listeners are also introduced to various perspectives on the legal system, including insights from other callers who share their experiences and strategies for asserting their rights. The episode emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility and the potential benefits of opting for a more pragmatic approach to legal challenges. The discussion is enriched by contributions from regular callers and experts, offering a comprehensive look at the intersection of law, personal freedom, and the complexities of the modern legal landscape.
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As would we, and, we do take a attempt at it on a pretty predictable regular basis. It's another one of those days. It's the Tuesday edition of the Radio Ranch. Date stamped to June through this month, and, which is gonna prove to be volatile. And, Roger Sales, your host here at the radio range. So, we're as of today as opposed to yesterday and Saturday, We have a full compliment, I think, of folks helping us. And to identify them and give them their proper credit that they have earned, mister Beaner comes forward and recognizes them.
Yeah. We need some we need some heraldry music or you know, something like
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that. Oh, yeah. Okay. I've I got that covered.
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Alright.
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But we'll do that another day.
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So,
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yeah, WDRN was with us yesterday. The only platform that wasn't with us yesterday was radiosoapbox.com, and they are never ever here on Mondays. On Monday. Yeah. So we're Paul's got
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Go ahead. Paul's got something special going for them on Monday?
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I don't know. There's just something else in the schedule. I don't know. Oh, okay. Oh, yes. I would be listening to that, but, of course, I'm doing this. So I can't. Anyways because we WDRN productions brings us the net family of broadcast services, including one zero six point nine WVOU FM in Chicago, our terrestrial radio station. He also brings us homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. Those are, multiple independent networks with their own, audiences and platforms. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink, our flagship station where it all began, or at least this iteration of the program and because Rogers mentioned many ex wives before, other platforms that have come and gone, we're on eurofolkradio.com.
Thanks to pastor Eli James. Yeah. And we appreciate him a great deal. Greatly greatly for sure. We're on Global Voice Radio Network, and, that's my pet project. And that is also syndicated, through Mhmm. Pod Home, Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon Music. It's it's it's, syndicated, in a number of places. That's cool. We're also using free conference calls so people can join us live on the show. And that link is on our website, thematrixdocs.com. Mhmm. Thematrix Yeah. Sure. E0cs.com. Where you can go and find all kinds of information, downloadables, resources, exhibits, interviews.
Oh my god. It's it's literally a treasure trove of information. So check it out. Bring popcorn.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. More than that. I got more I got more ex wives than Donald Trump and Joe DiMaggio. Of course, one of them wasn't Marilyn Monroe or, you know, all that. But, anyway, yep. Here we go on. And I'm that even accentuates my happiness to be here and associated with the balls, not only mister Beaner, but mister English. And the fact that we can have these wonderful two hour long discussions and and, question and answer sessions without interruption, which is particularly annoying in this, stream of information because it is complex. And I don't wanna sell your ears, and we don't wanna have to break for two or three minutes. Although they may be fine products or services or whatever, it's just your line of concentration is what I want to keep. And that's why I'm particularly happy with Paul even though Paul English has even tried to get me as suggested, let's say, suggested that we play a musical interlude like he does on his.
Kinda like maybe having sherbet after a meal to clean your palate, something like that. Give a little, a little separation. But yet, I just I we get in these discussions. I look up and it's time to end the show, you know, and, I just I like having the two hour contiguous time frame with no interruptions. And, there's there's not too many places you can do that on a, well, let's say the kind of level we're doing it. Right. Because everybody has, has expenses, and people like to eat and things and, like, have a roof over their head. And it's just been a a series of events that have allowed us to do this and, the way we do it. And I hope you appreciate it because you won't find it too many places out there otherwise. Oh, yeah. So for, yes, Paul? Will you
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running or something? We run into other, groups that are doing well, they they think it's similar to what we do, but, from what I've been able to determine, it it's nothing, like what we do. I mean, Bruce Bruce brought us a website yesterday. He, told us about an an interview or a a program on Coast to Coast AM
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Oh, yeah. Before last. Our guy out of Canada.
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Right. Okay. And, the guy's website is the freedompeople.org. Well, it doesn't take very long. After you go to that website, you see that they're selling a five part series. They call it the five pillars of freedom. It's it's actually six, weeks of material, and they're selling it for over $300. And I swear to god, I don't I don't know how or where on the website, but I could've swore I saw the name Ysoft somewhere on that website.
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You saw the name what? Ysoft?
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Ysoft. It wasn't wasn't he the guy that founded the Illuminati or some shit like that? I don't know. Weiskopf.
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Weiskopf. Yes. Yeah. I believe he was a, a German Jew who well, he'd been kicked out of the Jesuits. And now, you know, so the so the question immediately arises, how big a piece of crap do you have to be to get kicked out of the Jesuits?
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Yeah. Yeah. I guess. Well, I mean, they're doing a number of different things. They've got Express Trust. They've got private membership associations. Oh, you're right. Double authentication courses. These guys are, like, trying to be the go to for all things freedom and I He's he's Canuck. Right? He's Canadian, though. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Well, they're totally different than us.
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Okay. They don't have a secondary status up there that they can clearly identify, and it was used to pivot them into, set into slavery. Anyway yeah. And and, well, I dare say nobody's got what we've got because, you know, all these other folks didn't have John Benson as their law teacher. And if you don't know that old law, you don't really understand what you're doing because you can't read anything and extrapolate a meaning and without a correct definition, and they've totally buffaloed people on that. Right. So it's just one of the unique things. I don't know. I'm not saying I'm so great or anything. I just happened to be guided by the hand that, had me cross paths with John and Glenn in the six months they were teaching, thirty well, 1992.
How many years ago was that? Thirty three? So thirty three years ago, as a matter of fact, just about just about this time of year, a little bit later, was when that happened. Nobody else has that experience. And, all the other people that went through the, John and Glenn course there were there for taxation. I didn't have a tax problem till I met John and Glenn. And, That's funny. I mean, it's true, you know? And, boy, I had a big one right pretty quick afterwards, but, nobody's got that knowledge. And even the people that went through the course, Vamoosed when they got raided, because they their motivation was different. Their motivation was to get away from something, which is the, the grabbing hands of the individuals representing Satan.
And mine was just because I'd had a curiosity for about twenty years at at that point already that something was wrong. And, here I had a thread that I could start tugging on, and so I stuck. And the other 1,199 people didn't. And, so there you go. It says a lot about motivation in this life too, doesn't it?
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You were you were seeking truth.
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They were I was truth seeking. That's correct. All those things are correct. See, and isn't that an interesting, look on and a perspective on, motivation. So anyway, and here and then I just couldn't shake it. I couldn't shake it for all those years. I just kept thinking about it and thinking about it. I'll tell you, I've told y'all before, and it'd been a while, what really drove me through that is my mind would constantly go back to 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, which is the jurisdictional statement of the IRS. And John had that nailed. Nobody else has ever found it. Oh, and been able to identify it as evidenced by, well, some of the finest attorneys in the country, Larry Beecraft being one of them. If you wanna look at the tax, the tax area, he's one of the most recognized tax attorneys in the country or was at one point, won some pretty big cases.
And even Larry Beecraft didn't didn't see this. You know, he was going around the country with a pal of his, a an ex military JAG officer, constitutional attorney, up at least at least by by claim. And, I I got the feedback at some of their meetings. People had stand up and asked them about my stuff, and they go, nah. That doesn't work or whatever their comment was. They're quite negative on it. So not everybody sees this. And, if you do, if you're here, if you're, bitten by the bug as it were and you take your time out of the daily, routine to come listen to us, which some do, because, man, if you're the right person, once this bites you, it's gotcha.
And you can't shake it. It's just not something like I don't wanna do that anymore. It's like you can't. Because your your body just keeps coming in your mind back to this area, and I kept at it and kept at it. And and for a while, before I understood it, I was trying to set up my life, Paul, where I do things that would keep me out of what I considered a, a contract type situation that would nexus you back into the system because I still thought that's the way it worked. And that went on for a few years, you know, driving with a a a a bogus tag on the car and, just all kinds of stuff. And it was always, well, what is this gonna get me back into the system? Do I need to avoid that? And that was, of course, the error of my thinking at the time, and then a lot of people still think that, especially when they're new here.
And, that's why you gotta go in and kinda whitewash all that. The the contract is a presumption. It comes at your birth, and it is for a fraudulent, no doubt, apothecated debt of the, that these scoundrels pulled off in the bond market. So they, they just did a little international buy. We're about to go through that again. You know, I mean, we did a talk the other day, Paul, on bonds, did a little little teaching on it, and it's still coming up. And, the Japanese inflation over there finally catching up with them, which means they've got to raise the price of their bonds. Did you been 0% bonds? You could go over there as a big as a big time Jew and, or or whatever your company was, you know, one of these scoundrels and you go over there, not all of them, a bunch of others did it too.
But they go over and with their wherewithal borrow, well, let's just say for round numbers sake, you know, a bill a billion dollars, a million dollars, a billion dollars, whatever the amount was. And they would come and take that and then invest it in European or US bonds at three or 5%. Now that's called the carry trade. And it has been the stalwart of our entire capital system worldwide for couple of decades at least, well, it's unraveling. It's unraveling right now. Japan's having to go back and raise that interest rate from zero to cover the inflation they're going through. And as that happens, all these people that have got their loans out, they they gotta pay the new interest rate. Okay? And it's unwinding the world economy. That's what's going on. It's the bond market.
And so, anyway, we can we can look forward to that. If you got anywhere with all of us, I tell you. Everybody else will tell you. I don't care who you buy it from, if you can find it. I'll tell you who you ought to buy it from is who you trust the best you can, who or where you can find something you can purchase. Because there's gonna be a time when, gold and silver are, they're called you know, there's a specific name for them, Paul. I don't know if you've ever heard it or not, but there will be a time when gold and silver will be classed as unobtanium.
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Uh-huh. Yep. Okay?
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Absolutely. And, and so, do it now. If you got that and you're able to, I'm I'm sure all of our people already have. But, boy, there's some great opportunities out there. I told the story the other day that Robbie Noel used to tell about the the kid over in Europe. He worked as a as, like, a car hop, a bellhop, or whatever at one of these fancy spas like Baden Baden. And, one of his customers that knew him gave him a tip of a gold coin. And he went back home, and he put it in a drawer and forgot about it. And then the hyperinflation came, in Germany, and he found the coin or remembered it or whatever and brought it out and went and bought the hotel with it.
There you go. That's the kind of opportunities that are gonna be presenting themselves with people. Yes, Paul. Now now, Raj, I I wanna mention I mean, I did talk about that website. Can you talk right right in the microphone, Paul? You're a little off the side. Yeah. I'm sorry.
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Okay. Thank you. I got it turned down a little bit. Otherwise, I create an echo in it and and a back talk or a Okay. Willie, you're fine. We you're audible. Okay. I mentioned that website a little, a little bit ago, and I wanna be clear that I'm not picking on that website. I mean, god love them. You know, they're they're touching on, like, the important, things that people should be touching on, you know, personal sovereignty, freedom, personal responsibility, freedom from tax debt, PMAs. They're touching the hot buttons. Okay? So I don't wanna pick on them because what really irritates me is when freedom and, patriotic movements, just slam each other.
I mean, the one thing that the the globalists and the powers that be have over us is they have the ability to work together. We don't have that. We're separated, segregated, and fighting each other. Now if we can ever get together, they've got no they've got no chance. So we gotta work together.
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He told us we were stiff necked people, and he's correct.
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Exactly. K. So I'm not picking on the website. You know, even though there is a graphic on there that looks like a sun with rays, out with an I in the middle, That's kinda creepy. I'm just just saying, but I'm not picking on the website anyway.
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Okay. That that was all I wanted to say. I wanted to clarify I'm not picking up. I you know, the only my big problem with people is like with the late David Strait. To me, it was a charlatan. And he was, trying to justify the prices he was charging people by writing, like, 31 page documents that you file. Right. You know? So would you rather pay him and file a 31 page document that has errors in it, like identifying yourself as a sovereign citizen, or would you do or rather get it your information for free and do one sentence?
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Well, I think what that group did was they did it to themselves because they have within their group the the, agents and methodologies necessary to attack other groups. Anybody that tries to come into David Street's group and and proposes anything different, they are ostracized. They might as well be honest because they're shunned.
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Okay. Well, hey. Oh, I see that, and I know about that. And it's unfortunate because well, look. We get these refugees here occasionally, not daily, but we get refugees from both of those other and some other ones too. And, they're just being taught wrong wrong information. And I don't know the reasons for that. I don't really know the individuals behind them personally or could ascertain their motives, but they all include paying them something. And some of them are huge dollars, amount, especially in times like these when things are short for families and ordinary circumstances.
But I don't build put them down to build us up. I I I show you what they're doing and then counter it with the the reality of what the the law really is and what this thing that we're battling really is. And see if you know what it is, you can beat it. I'm not sure they ever beat it, quite frankly. Alright. So, anyway, that's where we are. If you're, tired of being under, under the yoke of Jewish slavery, Revelation two and three nine slavery, which is what the whole world is for the most part, then we got an answer for you. If you wanna listen to it, if you wanna exercise it, that totally is up to you. We've never told anybody to do this. It's gotta be voluntary.
If there's one lesson that I've learned at all this is that right there. The other lesson would be that, to realize that we've got the power. We've always had the power. They tricked us out of it. That's why they've got it accumulated over hundreds of millions of people giving it to them. Yeah. Do this to us. Do this to us. Yep. Here's my okay on it. You can go you can governors this way. And, you know, that's the way it is. So take it back. You've got the power. You were cheated out of it fraudulently. That negates any contracts involved.
Take it back. Mhmm. We don't have too many people fighting. Now I did have, our our listener, Dan, out in Oregon, Paul. And, you may remember this. About a year and a half ago, he had the situation with his dog where the lady was coming to go walk in her in something that will I don't know. I remember all of it. There's a woman that walked part of it on his territory, part of it not on his territory, and his dog came out bitter.
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There was a right of way to a public walking trail
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Kind of. That Something like that. On his property or something. Yeah. Well, he went ahead and did that. He got contacted by one of these TV things. You know, hey. Would you like to have your case tried on TV? This, that, and the other. And Dan thought he could expose the national thing, so he did that. And we didn't know, what if they played it or not until, he sent me a copy of it this morning. And Oh, really? The yeah. And, the three, I I mean, I can shoot it to you, Paul, if you wanna play it. It's not there's not much notable there, you know, quite frankly. I mean, you I you we can do that if you wanna do it. It's not very long. But, anyway, what they showed, they had a three judge panel up there. He must have had to come to some agreements before they shot it.
And so the whole the judges were, of course, concentrating on the dog and the bite, and they had both him and the female that was bit right there in front of him. And, you know, a few feet of farts so they couldn't swing at each other. And, so they had pictures of the bite, and there was a puncture wound and all that stuff. And I didn't see on this snippet, they didn't have anything about the trespassing or any of that. And then at the very last, he tried to bring up the fact that he was a national. He didn't think that should apply to him. Well, I didn't see, and I don't know because I don't know the whole story if there was stuff in the paperwork for him to do this thing if they didn't say, well, you can't bring in other exhibits or whatever else. And as I've said for many years, this is a very difficult concept to bring up and get across in sound bites.
K? It's just very difficult because it goes against everything these people have ever been exposed to for the most part. And so at the last, they kinda overruled him and charged him $5,000 for, the dog bite. And, so but my point being is you can't just say I'm a national and have all these people that have never been exposed to this. It's so cattywampus, upside down, back ass ass words because of the equivocation and all that stuff. You gotta get somebody's attention. Well, they'll sit down. You can feed them a little bit. You know? And so, anyway, that happened today, and he sent it to me this morning. And, I guess he got had to boost $5 out of that for the dog bite. Okey. Okey the dog.
So, anyway, I got that this morning, and, that was kinda interesting. It just reinforces what I already know. You can't go into a court, especially if you haven't filed affidavits. You should put that on the record, and it may be a little memo, legal brief, or something with it, etcetera. You can't expect these judges to know what you're talking about. And, of course, that's why we try and encourage you. What part of our game here is to do the best we can, but keep your butt out of a courtroom.
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Right. But, Raj, all those all those TV shows like the People's Court and Judge Judy and all that happy crap. Before you even get in the door, you have to agree to grant the court jurisdiction. They make the rules. They don't work on constitutional
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law. They work on private law. Yeah. It's TV. Law. It's TV. Come on. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm sure all those things by the way, she's now the attorney general of this DC. So give judge Janine a little credit here.
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No. I I said judge Judy.
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Oh, judge Judy. You know that irritating So, anyway, he sent me that this morning. I can send it to you. You can play it if you want. It's only and I said it's pretty fairly short, but there's nothing really substantial in there I don't know. Except to say that you don't wanna bring this up in sound bites. And and I'm sure he'd have more leeway in a courtroom because he could have probably entered some of those things in in into his defense. But regardless, sorry, Dan. And, you got yeah. He was he was trying to be very good intention and going, I've got a chance here to get the national thing into this, situation might be on television. And it was, but it didn't expand on it or give it any kind of glorification
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that it deserves at least. Right. So what anyway What it what it did do is it it enabled him to get out from underneath the issue, and the show paid her the $5 because they took it out of his compensation for being there. There. Okay. Well, that's probably true. They probably paid him 5 and gave it to her. Okay. Yep. Yep. Exactly. So
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Well, anyway, thanks, Dan. Good effort. Probably, if somebody's gotten a a chance to do that, make sure you're you're a little on on a little firmer ground. Yes. Is that Alan right there that's, trying to say something?
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It's Dan, actually. Hey, Dan. In Oregon. Hey, Dan. Yeah. So, you know hey there. It's good talking with you. You know, that issue was over the whether Okie needed a dog license or not because once this happened, the animal control got involved and and, I resolved it with them. Animal control dropped it. Yeah. So, yeah, in their that court, that was how the national status got involved. And I did supply my affidavit and all that, but it was a little bit mixed as far as a separate issue than, the claim for the dog bite.
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I see. So yeah. So it went. Yeah. Absolutely. I see. They interrogate. Well, I'm kind of interesting that they put it in the clip, but they weren't gonna follow it anywhere. And so you're not gonna get that exposure from that from that, angle, I think. But good work. Good try. And, and, did they, did you have to come out of pocket on that fine? Did you come out of pocket on that fine or did they pay it?
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Yeah. No. Paul was right on that. That was part of the deal was they paid the the loss or you know? So yeah. No. That didn't come out of pocket. That's kinda one reason I did it as well, but, I'm glad it's over. I mean, that's over a year and a half ago that they Yeah. It was quite a while. I thought they weren't even gonna air it. Yeah. And the strangest thing, I mean, I never watched TV in the afternoon, but it was hot. And I'm telling you, oh, what's on at 04:00? And some begun there. There you were. Show that they had, and and it looked like me.
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Well, it's too bad. No. That's Too bad you didn't get to put okie on the stand.
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He's be such a sweet dog. He'd warm her heart over. I
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see. What'd he buy her for? Anyway.
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What'd he buy her for? She provoked it. I I I didn't even see you know, I think that's still questionable. You know, had we gone to a real trial, I would have got her medical records and done fang marks on her bite versus his jaw and different things like that. Because there's no when they show the bite, there's no reference like a quarter as far as, you know, spacing and you know? And she there are things she said, better to the bone, and she was pretty chunky. And if it was in the thigh, I'd have a hard time to believe that you reached the bone. But, Matt, she changed her appearance when she walked in court, man. I could not believe it was the same person that I saw on the hill, that day. But, Yeah. Anyway Hey. She was going now what?
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Dan, let's let me get this straight. There's a your property has a there's a right of way to on the property to it it shares land with a trail, a public trail for hiking or something. That's what she was going on. Is that correct? If I remember right or wrong. Yeah. It was
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yeah. It wasn't actually even a public trail. It was National Forest, and it's up behind my house, but, the driveway leads up there. So she would have had to come up the driveway and then cut up, and then she's in National Forest a few Mhmm. Ten, twenty feet up into past the driveway.
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Yeah. So yeah. And all poor poor Oakley. Heart disease. Somebody was on his master's land there, and he didn't like it. Right?
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Yeah. I I when I heard him bark, I thought it was deer up there because that's who you see usually up there. There's Usually. Okay. I've been here, twenty years, and there's been two incidents of people back there where this happened. I mean, people just it's not a public trail. It's not a popular trail. It's just a firefighting trail. You know? They they put a line in in case they gotta fight fight a fire. But, yeah. So why didn't they come on the trespassing?
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Why did why didn't they bring up trespassing in your little, short trial?
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Well well, they did. There was another portion of that. They had, like, two parts, part one, part two, and they did bring it up. She's basically lying. I mean, she says, oh, no. I never walked on private property as in is that she was in a dress. It was in summer. There's poison oak all over and and, you know, unless you're on a path, you're not gonna be bush wacky to look for this cat for two months that's been missing for two months. That was the other thing. Yeah.
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She was looking for a cat? Two months.
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Yeah. She's looking for a cat. Her impetus or reason for being there. So, anyway, I'm I'm glad all that's behind me. And, I'm young. I I just was shocked that they let me even stay national while we didn't get to go into it. Yeah. But and my final thing was, well, if you don't recognize, national status, maybe I'm in the wrong venue. So,
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Well, no. You were in the right place and you had the right position. You just didn't get the chance to argue it, and you couldn't overcome their ignorance and that situation in in sound bites. And they wouldn't let you anyway. They're not gonna let you get on there and go, hey. This is the TV show that exposes the fraud. But good try, Dan. Good try, man. That was
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Well, I appreciate that. Hey. Yeah. To bring up Yes. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Keeps in touch. So, you know, I was gonna try to do a group leader for Brent's upcoming class.
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Do you have to But,
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after looking what's involved, I'm gonna have to, renege on that intention. Oh, that's unfortunate. And Okay. You know? Yeah. It's slow they're doing it a little different than they had in the militia course. The the price goes up. Group leader pays a 180. Nine more people pay $90, and that's kind of a pretty big amount to collect from everybody. Nine different people can send indigenous one payment and take care of sending books out if they wanna book. So it's kind of a busy time of year for me. So that's the main reason is I understand.
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Understand.
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So Well, let Go ahead. I think I let I told Chris. I think I told Chris that I would do that. So but I'm gonna not.
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So Well, they've changed the, specifics, and this is on the upcoming comparative law class that Brent's given. And he does ask for a donation. And, man, I know Brent, you know, works his butt off on this stuff, and he's got sheriff Dar there, and he's got all the rest expenses and the websites and webmasters and all the rest of that stuff. So it does take funds. That's why I'm so thrilled about what we've got going here is we don't necessarily have to have that. We welcome it. It helps us if we get it, but we don't necessarily have to exist on fumes. So, good.
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Okay, Dan. Well, thanks. What else? No. You got anything else, Ed? Yeah. Just, appreciate those show. And, it you know, at one point we're wondering how come more people aren't being nationals in, like, within my own family, they're I get treated like,
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you know A leper. You're a leper. Right.
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Yeah. But, I did get one brother to to look at the site. At least I gave him the site to look at. I'm not sure if he's looked at yet. But, and my sister, you know, she goes, oh, Trump's gonna take care of all that tax stuff and oh, brother.
[00:35:17] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, you know, and that's the thing, of course, is is not just about taxes. The threshold is much bigger, but sometimes you can't see that threshold till you get in on the tax issue. That's why we've always used taxes as such a, a come on for folks. But, you know, I've told Jeff, and it's one of my biggest surprises, Nan, over this, is I just thought the line to do this would back up to Omaha. You know? And, boy, it just doesn't. And that's a shock. You know? Things like being on Jeff Rentz for two hours and not getting one single person out of it on pretty darn good interviews.
I I don't understand, and I it it's still, is, quizzical for me, but I know that it's powerful. I know it works. I know there's people that need it and want it and are interested in it, and I'll continue to put one foot in front of the other till till probably I put both feet underground, because I know how powerful this is. It's a game changing, could be a world changing, piece of information. You know, we've got several listeners that are pretty bright that, that think that and have told me that they think this is the most important message in the world. Well, I I have too, but I wouldn't come out and said that, but it's pretty damn important.
[00:36:44] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree and, appreciate you, a lot that you put this to you know, given this to us so freely.
[00:36:52] Unknown:
Well, I I learned a lot from you, Roger. Enjoy my own. Well, you're welcome, Dan. That's what I'm evidently put on the earth here to do. This is kind of my calling, my Ballywick, and I couldn't nobody else could understand it. I kept trying to get other people to Here, try and try this on for size. No. No. It's way too big. And, at some point, well, it's gotta get out there. And I'm and and evidently, I'm the one that's supposed to do it. So that's when I started one at a time. You know, I've been given this message pretty continuously and predictably since, the fall of nineteen ninety two.
Don't remember exactly when, October, November, maybe September, somewhere around in there. But when the guy in Atlanta that was a Mormon guy, and he was an insurance guy, and he is the one that had the contact initially to have the meeting in his office. And that was all fine and good until, as they say in Spanish, until his wife found out he was playing with IRS and, that she who must be obeyed put a stop to that crap real quick. And so it was either we weren't gonna have any kind of a meeting or information exchange unless I did it.
And I was teaching. I was inspired by the information. I've been looking for a thread for all those years, decades, really. And I said, well, okay. Here we go. And I mean to tell you, in the old days, we had a any of you familiar with Atlanta. I know Paul is. We Spaghetti Junction, out there in Norcross at, I 85 and 285 is is just one of those intersections, you know, that you see that that's why they call it Spaghetti Junction. And there was a big, office complex right next to there called the Koger, k o g e r, center. And, and that is, we were very close to there, and, we started having meetings. They had a meeting room. If you had an office in the complex, they'd give you a free meeting room anytime you wanted it. And there was a, after the thing got closed and we couldn't use his office anymore, there was a, a retired bird colonel, army bird colonel West Point graduate who, was a really good guy, and he was really into it and us doing it. So he had an insurance business in in that building, gave us that office to use. That meeting room, and it's on the Northeast Side of town. I lived over in Marietta on the Northwest Side of town. That's about a thirty minute drive each way.
Well, I'd get there every Wednesday night, I think. Tuesday night, I forgot. And we would, ride over there, and whoever show up, we'd give a three hour presentation. I didn't know it this well. And I would present it from an entirely different direction from the bottom up totally. And, some take about couple hours, three hours usually. And, sometimes there'd be nobody show up at all. And I have to pack up all the stuff and put it in the car and drive thirty minutes back home. One time, one guy showed up, and I sat there and gave him a three hour presentation of one guy. So, my dedication to the information has been very strong for a long time, and it's only through teaching it over and over and over and over again that I have become so proficient at it and gone along the path and been able to find the things that I was wrong on back then and correct them and put them and incorporate them into our teaching, platform here. But, man, that's the kind of commitment I've had to this.
Never once have I asked anybody for any money, so or any currency. So, anyway, that's where we are. We've come a long way, and, we're very pleased with where we are. We wish we were further. Wish we had more folks. Should have. Can't really put my finger on why not, but I gotta be pleased with where we've come. As I look back over my shoulder and look at the, look at the road we've taken. You know, Brent talks about you never you always look ahead when you're on the tractor. You don't ever look behind because then you get zigzagging. Well, that's the same way with boats. If you're if you're in a boat and you're going at some speed, if you continue to look forward, you'll have a straight line behind you on your on your, prop wash and all that stuff. And if you keep looking back, you're gonna keep having zigzag stuff.
So we keep our eyes to the forefront, and we continue to, bang the drum. We got enough people now where if everybody is out there talking to people about it, we ought to start to get into exponential growth. And, we've seen a number of new folks here around here lately, and that's good. And so all I know to do is just keep putting one foot in front of the other and, trying to find the people that the information resonates with. You listening here are obviously more than likely one of them. And, congratulations on who you are because you you gotta be somebody real special that this information resonates. That's what I've come to conclude.
[00:42:13] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[00:42:15] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
[00:42:18] Unknown:
I'm back.
[00:42:22] Unknown:
Who's that? Is it Brian? It's Brian. Hey, Troy. Alright, man. Okay. Well, you came in this morning here. Good to hear your voice on the show. This is Brian Howard. He's one of the guys from years ago. Used to have his own little show on our network for a while and then realized the demands that are involved with something like that. And he's got a family with two two girls and stuff like that and other obligations. And it takes a commitment to do this. Okay? I gotta get up every morning, even though I don't want to some mornings and get up and come up here with you guys because there may be somebody on the program here that's wanting to get out from Jewish slavery. And if you wanna get out from under the Jewish yoke, then I wanna help you. Okay?
And we'll both go to Happy Land when we can flip a bird at those son of a bitches and say you murdering lions, thieving, satanic, slaving bastards. Okay. So, Brian is the one that brought us a couple of real important press the envelope issues. One on the driver's license issue in Idaho, which was an interesting ordeal. That was the one. And then he went to the hospital there in Austin with got the straight scoop on the, on on the procedure that they use when a child's born in one of the hospitals in The US, and I guess they've all got the same protocol on, producing the birth certificate and, entering them into this world. So while you, decided to come back and say hello. So for the audience who's probably never heard Brian, I don't think you've been on the program in years, Brian Howard. So, thank you. Another one of these warrior type guys that, got no too much fear and plunges ahead. You know?
[00:44:12] Unknown:
Morning, Raj. Yep. Morning, everybody. It has been a little while. Yep. Pardon my, absence, but life gets busy. And Okay. Sure. More, you interact with these with this fraudulent system, the more I've learned that there for a while, I thought I had some things figured out, but, a couple more years actually, a few more years and a few more, run ins, I guess, I'll call those. It's just beyond obvious what a fraud the system is. I listeners listeners don't know, but I recently got a, I got a ticket, basically jammed up in traffic court again. And, I started this in 2013 when I heard Roger on, the Joyce Riley Show. She was taking a break, and Yeah. I just moved to Idaho and heard, Roger, and that's when we met. But, been in touch over the years.
Last few years, I've lost a little distance just because I, like I said, got busy and at some point kinda just put things aside and down. I thought I had, but I got basically trapped up in another ticket, which was a county court instead of a city court. City courts are very easy to deal with. They don't, right, they don't issue warrants, etcetera. But the county court, that's the state. That's actually a a Yeah. You know, basically a corp subcorp of the state corporation. They're all subcorps, but the cities are much lean. You know, they don't get jammed up as much. They don't have time for it. But the city courts are super corrupt, and I ran into a super corrupt judge here. And, if I would not have, you know, put some things in the affidavit and pepper them up, they would have tried to body slam me every which way but loose. They grossly violated due process.
[00:46:09] Unknown:
Yep. I wanna say we got a little delay here in the back on this platform, but let me just say that Brian has relocated, and you live in Tennessee now. So let's just put it that way. Yeah. I'm in there.
[00:46:24] Unknown:
I'm in the volunteer state of Tennessee, which is good and bad, just like most states. They're all corrupt at the end of the day. Yeah. Some are better than others. But, regardless, whatever. I had a Uh-huh. A traffic ticket situation that came up and I had to defend myself, to the point that I actually had to hire an attorney because it was gonna turn into a situation where they were gonna try to put a bunch of charges on me and they were attempting to, but I cut them off at the old Okay Corral. And, I had to lawyer up, which I did not wanna do and you know, had real reservations about it, but think think my creator, I actually maybe got a decent honest bulldog that wasn't gonna let anybody trounce on my do anything further what they did, but they and I don't know how detailed or in it I'll go into here or maybe at another time, but they they they tried everything again once once again under the books and tried to finagle and hush you and, you know, threaten you and do all the things that they're gonna do in these small courts, but I think I've learned a valuable lesson at this point, and it's not worth it. And Well, one thing I appreciate you saying not worth it.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
For one thing is you're going into I'll I'll identify the city you're in. I don't think it's any big deal. You're now in Murfreesboro, which is about halfway to the Alabama border there from Nashville, give or take, isn't it?
[00:47:58] Unknown:
About somewhere about halfway between Roughly, it's it's like 40 about forty minutes from, Nashville, thirty five, forty minutes.
[00:48:08] Unknown:
Just a basically a commuter town, sister commuter town. Yeah. Nice old town. So we got we got some other good, listeners in in Tennessee now. And, one of them had a real interesting problem with a birth, a little bit involved. He's over in the eastern part of the state. And, I can't go into the whole story because I can't remember it all, but he finally got it resolved. And one of the things they did was we pointed him. He came on the air with the problem. We got a brain trust here, Brian, now, and, people giving him suggestions. And somebody had an organization they suggested he contact that is affiliated with, like, let's just say constitutional oriented lawyers.
And he found somebody to help him, and I believe they got that, situation with the baby all, cleared up. You didn't come to us in time here, with yours, so we could suggest that to you, but you found one anyway. Good for you. How'd you find him?
[00:49:05] Unknown:
I I did. I well, it's actually, I've honestly, by pure luck, I believe. It was just Wow. This is all god stuff here. K? But how how did you locate No doubt. You cross paths? No doubt. I've I just found them on, basically, a lawyer referral site called SuperLawyers. But, I had you know, I looked into it. I didn't wanna get a young attorney that's, you know, trying to prove himself or really just doesn't know somebody. Make his mark. Yeah. Yeah. Not interested in that. It was beyond way beyond that at this point, and the the judge had physically threatened me. I basically went into the court, and I'll just give a a quick thing. No. I can't put all the details in this one call, but, I didn't wake up yesterday. I know all about the bonds. I know how the whole system works and how they trick you in with the all just everything. The from the straw man name, which is an Endsley just fiction.
And I basically took you know, attempted to take control of the hearing and ordered the judge and the and the clerk to basically bring the bond because, there was a bond with a QSAT number on it, and I'm the beneficiary of that of this basically hearing. And they don't wanna hear it, and a lot of people may agree or not, but it it is what it is. There's no doubt there's a financial transaction taking place. They try to hoodwink you. They do it all day long, with basically announcing a name that sounds like you're but we all know that the there's an all caps name is not a proper English name. It's not your name. It's basically similar to yours. There's a whole financial trap set up around it. And, the judge didn't like that, so he heard me out of the room real quick. So nobody else in the room heard it. There were probably 45 to 50 people in there going through the same process of getting abused and used.
And, I was about the person they called up to the bench, and he got me out of the courtroom real quick and then told me to wait to talk to the state literally, which there's no such thing as the state. There's no there's never an injured party. There's no corpus delecti. There's no charge that they can bring against anybody. That's even, that's even lawful. They're all, it's all fraud. But unless you know what you're doing and you can firmly put those things on the record, then they're gonna steamroll you. Even if you do, they're still gonna steamroll you, which is what my point is. This is not worth it.
After, you know, twenty after about a, I'd say, a fifteen year process, I'll honestly say that now that, you're just playing with fire. There's way better ways to go about this and protect yourself than, you know, Brian. You know, let them basically try to steal you.
[00:51:55] Unknown:
As I've told you, we've talked a couple of times here on the side since you had this arise. And, I tell the audience, you know, I've I certainly applaud. And Brian Howard is the absolute epitome of what I'm talking about, the fearless warrior that wants to go in and do the battle and press the envelope. And he's proven that on several different occasions in several different circumstances. But Brian, all these years down the road, has come the same conclusion I had is that if I I can't tell you not to do that because I it's a real, it's a real, positive thing for you that you're that type of warrior individual, you know? But when you're going into these circumstances and you've never done it before, if you don't know what's required for you to get in there and do that and all the stuff you don't know and the technicalities they throw at you and you gotta put your whole life on the back burner to get that win.
And even if you get the win, they've stolen your life from you. Yep. K? Pay the funds for the most part. Now I'm I'm not gonna tell you absolutely to do this. I'm just saying it's better on your karma, your peace of mind, your your battling mind, and all that to go ahead and pay the pay the fine. Whatever it is, I mean, I will wait. There's a limit again, I guess, course to that. But usually, they're pretty minimal in these traffic incidents and learn the lesson and go back and come back to fight another day. That's just believe me. And I hate to tell you that, but it's the reality of the situation. So unless you're well, unless you're very unusual like Joe Lustica.
Do you do you've have you heard his name come up, Brian? Joe Lustica? I don't think so. Maybe you might have mentioned that in one of our recent conversations. I think I ring him up. I did. I think, but you don't know who he is. Well, Joe came No. I haven't. Brought to us. Research yet. Well, he was brought to us by one somebody that got a hold of me about the same time you did, many years ago, which Kaye and and Paul, and they had moved to Connecticut. She lost her house, went into court on the foreclosure thing in o eight with no legal nothing and nothing, just going into court to try and keep her house from getting stolen. Well, I don't have to shouldn't have to tell you. They just rolled over her like a deep 10 caterpillar.
Okay? And so, anyway, they moved back east for to take care of grandchildren. And, the young grandchild, the the son, was taking guitar lessons, and Joe's a professional guitar instructor. And the he was, a grand son's instructor. So that's how we found him. And, he she sent him over here. And well, Jake's, Joe, excuse me. He just had a situation. You'd love this, Brian. He just got a situation where he was about to take the town he lives in back from the state of New Jersey. And what he did was he he's a real good researcher. The guy just got a talent in this area. Okay?
He had originally been stopped by a cop who had a penis erectus for him there in his little town and his makeshift tag and charged him with things like having snow on the roof of his car. And so he tries to go in and fight him. He tries to go and fight him at the local level and jurisdiction, and he gets into a nice discussion with the judge. And, the judge finally goes, do you buy gasoline? And he goes, yes. Yeah. I've got jurisdiction. And so so he starts appealing it and all that stuff. And, and, and he, and then the appeal level wouldn't answer him. And so he starts digging into the old, back to the beginnings of the city And he found in the city charter, will they have to recognize the constitution in New Jersey and The U S and they weren't doing it. And he filed a quo, quo, quiet, A quo warranto, I think. Quo warranto. One of those Yep. Are up, one of those types of suits, and he copied the governor, the attorney general, and all the courts. Well, hell, all of a sudden, they're banging on his door. We're live we're dropping these charges, but but we gotta go in and get this discovery stuff cleaned up. So they didn't want anything hanging out where he could come back and say they didn't follow procedure.
And so they but they bended, man, like a straw in the wind. And the eventuality would have been that he got to get the city back and share it with the rest of the people in the city because they weren't following their original charter. Okay? Now that's a hell of a way to approach this, but that's exactly what happened. And the minute that thing hits somebody's desk that understood what was happening, I go, no. No. No. No. Drop these charges. Let's get this guy. We don't want any part of this. Okay? So, that was what happened. And, pretty interesting.
Pretty interesting. But these traffic things are different. Okay? And it's just because, like, in what's the county you're in up there, Brian?
[00:57:16] Unknown:
Rutherford County. Rutherford County.
[00:57:19] Unknown:
Okay. So Rutherford County's, boss Hogg and Roy Bean, the hanging judge, they they do have jurisdiction over the streets and roads in the county. That's called subject matter jurisdiction. But they don't have jurisdiction over Brian because he's filed this, and that's in persona jurisdiction. And when we use the same jurisdiction, we need to go in there and separate those two because you can't blend them. Alright? So they may have subject matter jurisdiction, but you don't have any persona. Okay? And so, anyway, just a little interruption to your story and what Brian you you you got them on a technicality.
You wanna go into that?
[00:58:04] Unknown:
Yeah. They're basically always gonna be a technicality from the minute that you're pulled over. And like I said, there's so many elements of it that they're just gonna steamroll you, you know, no matter what really what you do. But that yeah. And that because they can. There's no there's no recourse. The lower courts don't give a rats. You know what? They Right. They're gonna do it just to do it. And then the system's set up so the round in appeals, which no one really ever gets to, or it's this long expensive thing. So the odds are that the the odds are already really stacked.
[00:58:38] Unknown:
And that's what the place you get real law. By the way, the place you get real laws at the appellate level. Okay. Now hold it, Brian. I'm gonna put you on the back burner. At the lowercase. I gotta put I gotta put you on the Howard back burner for just a because you gotta say goodbye to some folks here in just a Paul's gonna come on, and we, we have, we got a couple of places, one over in England, a network in England, and, a FM, sit station in Chicago that carry the hour hour of the show thanks to people helping us out. And this whistler signifies that we're about to tell them bye bye. And the guy to do that is one Paul Biner, who you don't know either that you're about to meet. Paul? That would be me. Hey, Brian.
[00:59:26] Unknown:
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[01:00:00] Unknown:
limey friends. I don't mean to give you a head fake there. I thought we were getting I thought you were leaving. Yes, Paul. Through Friday, both hours. Okay. Well, I can't if it changes, I can't keep up with it. That's why part of why you're here, we just wanna pay you the big bucks anyway. Go ahead. You said you had something to add? It started out just as one hour,
[01:00:21] Unknown:
but, actually, they filled out the schedule. They gave us the hour as well. One thing I wanted to mention, I just love hearing Brian. And, anybody familiar with the film Nothing But Trouble from 1991? Mm-mm. Not me. Okay. Nothing But Trouble from 1991 was, Dan Aykroyd's directorial, debut. It starred Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, and Emmy Moore. And it's, it's based on a story by his brother, Peter. It stars Aykroyd and John Candy, both in dual roles along with Chevy Chase and Demi Moore, and tells the tale of two yuppies played by Chase and Moore, and clients of one of them who are taken to court for running a stop sign in the bizarre financially bankrupt hamlet of Vulcanvania, which is dominated by a 106 year old judge played by Aykroyd.
[01:01:22] Unknown:
What's the name of that? What's the name of the movie? Called Nothing But Trouble,
[01:01:27] Unknown:
and it is this judge that sits high upon a bench above a, basically, a scrapyard where where people are they're brought in by, Dan, by John Candy who who plays the cop. And, they're basically killed because this is this is a, oh my god. This is judge Roy Bean and stuff on steroids. I mean, basically. Upon release, the film was largely panned by critics for its humor, screenplay, tone, and direction, and was also a box office bomb. Critics compared the film's tone to that of movies such as Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Psycho, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and the Rocky Horror Picture Show in the Monsters. Godzilla.
Ackroyd received the worst supporting actor, Razzle, at the twelfth Golden Raspberry Awards. But I think the reason I mean, the movie is pretty good. It's kinda funny. I mean, it's stupid humor, but I think the reason that they demonized it to the extent that they did was because it actually tells the very real story that the only law that exists in a small town is the law of the small town. Don't expect to get any justice. Don't Don't Don't Don't Don't expect a fair shake.
[01:03:03] Unknown:
Is somebody trying to talk over you there? Okay. Now give the movie one more time. This might be required homework. What's the what's the title of the movie again? Hey. It's so old. I'll bet you can get it on YouTube free movies. It's called Nothing But Trouble from 1991,
[01:03:19] Unknown:
and it stars talking about one of my ex wives. Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, and Demi Moore. A great movie.
[01:03:29] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. And it There you go. Tells exactly what we deal with with the local thieves. Nothing? Exactly. Nothing but troubles. Well, what Brian was, and he had as he said, lawyer up and go find this guy, which you're lucky to find a bulldog like that. And he you beat him on a technicality. And what when Brian was telling me this the other day, and I said, well, that's where most of our Patriot victories come from technicalities, and the Patriot community as a whole doesn't understand this stuff enough, and they just go, well, we gotta win. Well, it was a win on technicality. It wasn't a win on law. I mean, it was a win. I agree with that. But, short you know, it's just not the, well, the long lasting satisfactory win of beating him on law and having him admit it.
K? Right. But, anyway, it's a victory and it took a lot. Brian was, well, he had a little weight on his shoulders about this, and it relieved him of a lot of weight off his shoulders so that if nothing else than your perspective in life is, is worth the price of admission. Right, Brian?
[01:04:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I would agree. The there's couple of things that I think are really important to get across because it's not only the technicalities, which nine times out of 10 are enough to get rid of any ticket if it's done delicately because they just make mistakes. There's process. Yeah. There's just tons of mistakes whether the the process is wrong. The time they they just little things, little things that happen. Yeah. But most importantly Well was, like, questions
[01:05:05] Unknown:
from the get Roger, can you hear me hear me? Yeah. I can hear you. We got this little delay, and I'm wanting to add something that it's technicalities like, well, the cop that was subpoenaed to come testify against me that wrote me the ticket didn't show up.
[01:05:20] Unknown:
Okay. That's
[01:05:22] Unknown:
a great example. Is that minor or major? Well, that's pretty damn major, but it's a technicality. And that one is, I guess, you could say it is on law because them having to be confronted with your accuser is law, and he's not he or she isn't there. So you got nobody to accuse you. So, see you later. We're cutting you loose.
[01:05:44] Unknown:
Right. That and most of the time, they'll lie. The one of the biggest traps with that little thing is if you do not appear, which I didn't appear for one of them. I was told basically that the county court did not handle a city court tickets. So there there are a bunch of little loophole things that, you know, would have probably gotten it dismissed. But on the law side of it, I do think there was actually more heavily weighted to the law because once they got me back into the court and I, contested the judge openly and on the record, I contested the the jurisdiction. I've mentioned that extreme due process violations had taken place.
I mentioned that the court did not have jurisdiction. And most importantly, because there's no corpus of the electa, there's no injured party. There's no injured party mentioned in the citation. There's none of that. Therefore, it's not a crime, period. The end. There is no well, we're gonna do this, that, the other. Go right ahead. But, on any appeal, that would get thrown out. That was one of the main things, but I think the real teeth of the matter was that I went downstairs while they tried to get me out of the courtroom. I went and put four affidavits into the court record clearly defining who I am, what I'm not, my proper name, the issue with the all caps, basically birth record, etcetera.
Call it a birth bond, whatever. Who I don't You can get all sideways on that conversation, but there's definitely a a basically a transaction, a a business transaction that is taking place. Even the judge walked in and before any of this happened, he was, you know, they say, all rise. The judge is coming into the courtroom or something, whatever. Well, he walks in and very arrogantly basically smirks and says, alright. I'm here ready to do some business today. Well, he just admitted that it's a business transaction. Sure did. And he said that right off the get go on top of physically threatening me, refused to tell me the prosecutor's name, which is another sheer serious violation, refused to identify who the prosecutor was. Record. Screamed at me, Tony. Record. Well That's gotta be public record of the prosecutor.
Exact it it has to be. It has to be, but they just hide behind oh, that's the district attorney. They refused to tell me his name. He just said that's the DA. Well, I have to have his name because under due process, I have to be able to serve him with notice and other things. But the key is I put affidavits in the record that they did not want to have, discussed or or openly brought what they have to once they're them recognized.
[01:08:19] Unknown:
If they talk about it, they recognized them.
[01:08:22] Unknown:
The then they recognized it, and that's what was gonna happen at the hearing. Well, I've had the attorney out because in the fine print of the whole matter, they're basically you know, they were gonna try to put additional charges on me, which could have put me in, you know, behind bars for, about a year. And so that was extremely stressful, and I basically just Now had to I lawyered up to do just that to protect me when I went back in so that they wouldn't railroad me. And It wasn't about a once you presented that.
[01:08:54] Unknown:
Yep. It wasn't about a ticket necessarily. Wasn't there some driver's license issues that were behind that?
[01:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The the basically, the driver's license, I haven't had a driver's license for years and honestly didn't plan on getting it, but I do now have a driver's license, and I'm not ever gonna let that thing go. It's not worth it. But, you know, there are ways to work around this where, you know, that can be more delicately done. I probably should have handled it a little bit better. But in all honesty, I've been at this for fifteen years and, you know, just emotionally done with it. And if there's one thing I can try to help at this point is just be an advocate for how you go about the process because I've done it. I've been involved in it, and I've probably seen it to a deeper degree than most people, understand, but there are specific things that once are you once are brought into the court record, it's a hot potato, and they do not want that on the record because there's the liability.
And if they address them, then there's definitely liability. So what they try to do, they try to then create a diversion or somehow try to get it. But thank goodness my attorney did a good job. And once they realized that I had gotten my license, then they hot potatoed it and just dismissed the entire thing. They didn't charge me with anything. They dismissed the entire case without court fees and basically hope that, you know, I'll go away and never come back. So,
[01:10:23] Unknown:
So let me ask you. What was the court It worked out with. The fee what was the fee if you would have just paid it? What would it have been opposed to you hiring, well, you told me a couple of grand for, for the mouthpiece and the other things involved. So would the fine have been over too, Brian?
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It could have been. The fine is this is where you get into the gray area, which is really shady. So when the court when the county writes you a ticket, specifically, this was for driving on a suspended driver's license, driving on an invalid license. So too much details there. I've had a few of them over the years, but they were multistate jurisdictions. So I had to clean up basically a spider web to get my Texas driver's license just back to the status of it not being revoked where then I could go get my license here. So I did all that. I cleaned it up, you know, really nice and clean. But my point is there's points there that, your question was what the fee would be. Well, here's the gray area, which was strange because the ticket they could have written me a ticket for, like, $350, on top of court fees. So the court fees is basically this gray area that then the the clerk can basically decide what they wanna charge you. They coulda charged me up to $3,000 up to $3,000 court cost, but they they didn't. I I assumed that they were going to because they were really pissed once I challenged the judge. And he he became infuriated to the How dare you? No. He isn't How dare you challenge him? Infuriated to the point his face, like, swelled up like a red
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Did you tell me his hands were shaking?
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His hands were shaking. His hands were shaking by the time because he knew that I knew what they were up to, and, basically, the emperor had no clothing at that point. Well, you'd know. You fit the profile of a terrorist at that point. A 100%. In their book, is a is a defiant surf slave that somehow got out of the box, and now they had to basically play the, oh, I don't know what you're talking about game. I don't know. The judge even said this when I said, I demand that you bring the bond so that I can personally view it and sign it and rescind it because I'm the beneficiary of the trust, and you can't do this without my consent. Well, he flipped out right at that point and basically said, oh, hell no. You're not bringing that crap into this courtroom.
And and then quickly, very quickly, she got me out of the courtroom so that, you know, it didn't disturb the reg all the other stuff that was going on. Oh, yeah. Well, when I went out into the whole into the waiting waiting room, it then became obvious, Roger. It was kinda like the one in Austin that I did years ago where they then, you know, changed the venue and reseated everything and started over as if the accusation was never made. And I think that's what they tried to do. But thank goodness, I had walked downstairs and went and put these affidavits in the record and had them stamped Yeah. Time stamped everything, embossed. And, the clerk read them and she goes, her exact words. She was sitting there reading them, and she was like, what what is this? And I said, I just remain silent. And she goes she read it, turned the page over. She goes, oh, lordy.
I'm gonna have to run this upstairs. Oh, lordy. Basically, she she read it, and it had, it was notice of fraud that they couldn't move forward. They didn't have jurisdiction that the prosecutor here's what they do. And this is, I think, what I've learned is the judge protects all parties of the fraud. So there's a there's a a scam going on. It's a white collar criminal felony scam that takes place in every court proceedings and specifically talking about traffic tickets. Other things different, but this is just on the traffic issue, which is definitely the main sticky point in all this status and everything else. Well, what the judge does, and I've seen it now in multiple personal experience, the judge protects all the parties, specifically the clerk and the prosecutor.
That's normally at when you go into the hearing, the the prosecutor's never even present, which is that should be get thrown out right there, but nobody challenges it. The prosecutor literally waits outside and waits for you to accept a, and verbally get into a plea agreement. So the judge says, calls your name out and says, you are you're charged with driving on a suspended driver's license. Do you wanna go talk to the state? Well, that's an offer to a plea deal. So by doing that, you you admit some type of guilt, and then you go do a quick plea deal, which is the easiest way to for them to just do a quick transaction, get the money, and move on to the next case. What they do wrong and where this is technically wrong, if it is ever challenged is, one, the prosecutor is not present, The one the one bringing the charge, neither is the accuser, neither is in the in the initial, citation or affidavit.
There's no mention of an injured victim or any monetary damages. It's always just Brian Howard was viewed driving on an invalid, driver's license, and that's the chart. It'll have a a code, right, you know, statute code, but there's never any mention of the real element of the jurisdiction, and that's a that's a crime, an injured man or woman and monetary damages. And that's that's where you get them because it's never there. They're never gonna put it in there because there is no crime. There's no there's never an injured party. The state can't be injured. I didn't physically injure or damage or do anything to this corporation called the state, nor could they ever prove it. And once I openly challenged that and told them right you know, basically, verbally to his face, And I said, your honor, you you know and I both know that on a on an appeal, this case would be dismissed immediately because there is no injured party, and and this prosecutor could never ever produce an injured party. We all know that. And he just immediately shut it down and then screamed at me to get out of the courtroom. And that was the end of the one. So
[01:16:39] Unknown:
Oh, I have someone in my yep. Go ahead. I think that's is that Joe? Or no. It's Tom. Hey, Tom. Tom. How's it going?
[01:16:48] Unknown:
Alright. Hey, Ed. Brian, this is on the line to where you guys are discussed. What's that?
[01:16:54] Unknown:
I said, Brian, this is Tom. He's the guy that was tapped with the overseeing RBN after Stap Miller died. Go ahead.
[01:17:04] Unknown:
Hello, Tom. So I got a ticket. Hey. How are you? That's a great that's some great information that you're handing out. That's really good. I got a ticket once long time ago for, not wearing a seat belt. Alright? So when I got into the court, the judge, told me she just, you know, you've been for, got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. You know? How do you plead? I said, well, what the shit's wrong with you people? Crazy drivers out here. Sorry. So I said, well, I said, I when I wear a seat belt, it distracts me from driving. It it actually interferes with my drive, makes me distracted. Well, you know, you're gonna, you know, you get an injury and all that, and, you know, you're gonna get, go through a windshield or something like that. I said, well, that's why I have insurance. I I was trying to direct him into that conversation, and he and he says, you you know, it's gonna cost you. I said, well, that's why I have insurance. Well, yeah, but you're gonna cost money and, you know, everybody's rates are gonna I said, so so the purpose of this isn't my safety. The purpose of this of the seatbelts is to protect the profits of the insurance company. Is that what you're telling me? Well, yeah. Well, just just wear your seat belt and then, dismissed. There you go. That's so good. They the the the whole room went just like went, oh. And I don't know how many other people use that after me, but,
[01:18:24] Unknown:
you know It's a good it's a point. That's a good point you bring up, and that it's exactly what my overall, learning lesson, I guess, is in all this. It's at the end of the day, they are conducting a business. It has nothing to do with the law. It's a private ad ministerial court, and all they're doing is Raising, raising protecting. That's all it is. Yeah. That's why the Department of Transportation in Tennessee is managed by the Department of Revenue.
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I'm I'm can I just bring in one point here? The only reason all of y'all know this stuff is because I was wearing a seat belt in 2010 in Argentina when I caused that accident because I would not have lived through it otherwise. Just throwing that in there. K? And I've learned
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to wear a seat belt now. K? Because it saved my life. I'm on Can I throw in something real quick? No. I got I got just the opposite for you, Roger, because I was in an accident once where I tried to avoid hitting the dog. And it Yeah. And if I had the seat belt on, the steering wheel would've would've, probably killed me because I hit through that corner and just push the whole dash right into the truck. Yeah. I know. I know. It wasn't the point so much that. It was just that, you know, what I said to the judge. And, and if anybody has lived ever lived in Philadelphia, in the city of Philadelphia, they they know of the Philadelphia parking authority.
And it used to be that they could write you a ticket, for parking, and, you know, you didn't really have a whole lot of recourse. So I got some I got a ticket one day for doing something, you know, to help somebody. And I went and dug dug in the statutes, and I found out that all their tickets were supposed to be sworn. So they, so they wrote me a ticket. I went down. I found out that they weren't sworn. I got a copy of it the day before the trial. The next day, I called up and said I'm sick. I can't make it. Okay. You're gonna have to you know, we're gonna find you guilty, and you have to come in and, you know, and appeal it. So I did all that the day before the appeal. I went and got another copy of it. The thing's still not sworn. Went into the office with the guy. He turns on the tape recorder. I brought my attorney friend with me, and we made a little side bet that if I could beat him, that he'd buy me lunch. And if I lost, I'd buy him lunch. And my son was sitting in the audience.
He we go into this guy's office. He turns on the tape recorder, says date and time and all the people. He says, what can I do for you? I said, I'd like to have verified copies of these complaints. And he turns the recorder off. He goes, you want what? I said, I want verified copies of these complaints. I'll be right back. And he left the room, and he went out. And he was gone, like, good five minutes or more. And he comes back in, and he says, oh, the, microfiche is down, dismissed. So my lawyer and I are looking at each other like, what? So we go out and my son we pick up my son, and he goes, what the hell happened in there? He says I said, what? He says, I thought they're gonna arrest you. I said, what are you talking about? He's just he was out there talking to the to the guard or the cop who's a you know, he's a like a cop, a local cop. And I said, they're gonna arrest you or something. I said, oh, no. The guy was going to get a copy of the tickets. I said, you mean he didn't go behind the back of room? He just stood there and talked to the cop? I said I he says, yeah. Yeah. I went, holy mac or so. We figured it out that they knew that they couldn't, you know, they couldn't provide the correct ticket with a sworn, you know, the officer's signature on under oath, and they just dismissed it. But then they changed then they changed the statutes there that says that they could they could do unsworn declarations.
So but, you gotta read their rules and and fight them with their own rules sometimes. So, anyway,
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that's my story. Thank you. Okay. And you're sticking to it. Yeah.
[01:22:11] Unknown:
Oh Okay. Yeah. You know, Paul was talking about that movie Paul was talking about that movie Nothing But Trouble, but he missed the most important part was that the that the problem was when Chevy Chase got up in front of the judge, and and he says he's looking at his ID, and he goes, oh, banker. I go, no. I'm a financial publisher. Okay. Banker. And his uncle his grandfather got shamboozled by bankers, that turned the whole town into a a burning oil pit. And that was his that was, what he hated was anybody that had anything to do with the banks. So I think that was kind of a little hidden, innuendo there in the movie,
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but it was great to watch
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it. I I I agree with you. I got a room, guys. I'm gonna go get blood work. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Good luck on your blood work. Hold on, Brian. I think Dave from the thumb is gonna try to get you a hold of a minute. There you go. Thank you, Tom. Dave.
[01:23:08] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Hey, Brian. Great great information. And what you said about the DOT and the Department of Revenue, absolutely. The definition of traffic is commerce.
[01:23:22] Unknown:
Correct. Yeah. The federal definition and that at at some point, we would have gotten into all the little nuances, and I was prepared to do that. But I think most importantly, upfront, you, you don't stand a chance unless you put affidavits into the court record. You're not ever gonna go in and argue a point. It has to be in writing via affidavit under penalty of perjury and clearly defining, what you are, what you're not, and what they've done wrong. You know, you have to put them the onus on them. So, basically, in any contesting of jurisdiction, and I as I mentioned, what I've think well, I I I know now from personally witnessing it is it's, basically, it's a conspiracy that takes place. The judge, the clerk, and the prosecutor are all three involved in what is a felony, a felony, basically, financial transaction.
And all it takes is just someone to go contest it. Maybe I'm that guy. I don't know. But something's gonna come out of it eventually because, what eventually originally happened when I met Roger and told him why I decided to contest the tickets was originally I walked in in Texas on a hot summer day into a DMV office to go pay a ticket that I had agreed to pay, and I was making payments on it. And it was basically set up so that when I would make the payment, it would stall the payment, and I'd get fees put on it. And I was like, this is crazy. I'm paying the ticket, and it just seems like it's never going away. And I went in to try to clear it up, and and that's when I saw about 50 brown skinned people with their heads down, and they were paying the man. And I said, this is a damn racket. Now you remember that, Robert?
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Well Yeah.
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The kind of the same thing is what I'm trying to get across is that the point of going in and challenging the judge and all that, it's never gonna work. The only thing that has some teeth are basically when you enter things into the court record because that's when they, one, they either have to address them or they have to hide and and create a diversion. Only two things can happen. If they don't address those and, you know, later let's say later on, I basically got convicted or something happened. Well, you can go back and contest a a a charge at any time over jurisdiction. Right? And they never approve it. Well, my point is the judge is always going to protect the other co coconspirators in a fraud. Right? Bank robber a, b, and c are gonna protect you know, member c is gonna protect a and b is what I'm getting across. And they do that by never having the prosecutor in the courtroom at the beginning so that you'll hopefully just plea out of it and they do a quick transaction.
Or two, that the the accuser is never there. And most importantly, the the elements of any crime, this is constitutional law. It's the US Supreme Court. It matters not what case you're in, whether you're in a, whatever crime that they're accusing you of, there has to be a corpus delecti, an injured man or woman, not a corporation, and damages, physical, basically, monetary damage has to be established. And that's what they will always try to hide. And that's Right. The one thing I stood on on top of, accusing them of basically trying to defraud my bond and use my all caps name, which is not me. It was registered in the state of Arizona four days after I physically was born. It's you're not you don't have a birth date. The birth date is the the creation of the of the instrument.
Your born on date is when you physically came out of your mother. Right? Physically out of flesh. They take that, they create that birth record, that bond, and then they register it, which is the actual real creation date is its registration date. Just like when you title a vehicle, when you go title, anything, it's basically when you go and create that agreement, which is nothing more than a trust agreement. There's three parties to a trust. So that's my point. There's a lot more details there, but I don't wanna bore you in. Well, what you know don't I my point is this, Roger, real quick is all this, I'm glad that I did it. I have zero regrets, but I also too, understand the value of time now a little bit better. And literally over a $150 ticket initial ticket, I created, you know, years of really just unnecessary trouble. Maybe I do believe that it was on there was absolutely a reason. I had to figure things out because I I know now how to handle all types of other, you know, run ins with these, basically, you know, corrupt corporations is all it is. All it is is contract law, people. That's all this is. There's no Well, it's Babylonian merchant. Contract. But it's Babylon barb Babylonian merchant code. It's all based on contract. It was Babylon's
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great contribution
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to the world
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was they reduced everything in the society down to the abstract form of contract. And here, in this forum, sometimes it's a lot more abstract than you think, like a silent generational contract in the feudal system that goes on un unbeknownst unbeknownst to you that you agree with every time they ask you. You're a citizen of The United States? You're a resident? Yes. Yes. Sign something. Now they got your consent. Okay? Normally, Brian, we've tried to get away from. Hold on a Could you, Julie, please? Brian, we've tried to keep traffic crap off the show because it's all these jurisdictions. They might have different rules. They got different personnel.
It's always some horror story. There's a bunch of details. The audience can't follow it all. It's complicated. And just try not to do that anymore. But it's you, and I I I wanted you to go over that today. And, I'm a chance to have a chance to meet you girls. Could you wait and let me finish, please? And, and and so that's why we went into this. My advice to everybody is you're wanting to be a national. You're wanting to be free. Well, that includes self personal responsibility. You're not in group and responsibility anymore. You're in personal responsibility.
And you ought to take that very seriously even more so now when you've gone through this process than before. And, if you screw up, belly up to the buy damn bar and pay the fine. This national ain't a get out of jail free card on everything, folks. Sometimes you do something stupid and but drive consciously under the speed limit and be, be responsible. K? Don't go out there being wrecked. I'm a Nash. I'm a go get in a wreck and test this thing. Don't do that, please. Okay? Julie, you are This is one of our newer students here, Brian. Julie, what do you got for Brian, Julie?
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I think that was Julie, wasn't it? I I it wasn't me. It wasn't me. So I think it was Myrka.
[01:30:41] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, I heard Myrca, but I thought there was somebody before her, and I thought it was you. Okay. Myrca?
[01:30:48] Unknown:
I have, like, a few questions for Ryan. Good morning. Just wanted to say wanted to ask, do do you own your vehicle? When this happened, was your vehicle yours?
[01:31:05] Unknown:
Yes and no. That's actually one of the that's a brilliant question because that's really the underlying contract. So, two parts to that. I was driving an old Jeep of mine that I own, but I had originally financed it and it was done normally through the state of Texas. So it was bought at a dealership. It was titled and registered at the point of sale, which is how they handle it. And then years later, I had paid the Jeep off and, had requested, the original bill of sale from the dealership. They refused to give me a bill of sale because they knew what I was after. And I expressed that the MSO was the true basically the true chain of title. So I recently bought another automobile, and I paid cash for it. And that's the only way to ever get the MSO. They went sideways.
I'm not gonna give all the details, but I basically, you know, had, things prepared where I could buy the buy the automobile, let's say, here in the state and take it to Texas to pay lower taxes if I was going if I was going to do that. Long story short Right. I had the dealership assign the MSO to me, so I technically was the owner of one of them, during this process. But the the actual, automobile or I will say vehicle because it still has Texas plates on it, and it still showed up when the cop ran, you know, my license, basically plate numbers. He came back with my driver's license. So that's how they attach it. So I've I've looked at both ways. I'm, 100% advising, do not go put, private plates on a car or anything. If you if you really if you really wanna, play whack a mole, that's what you're gonna do. But you will you may get away with it once or twice. You may do this or that. But at the end of the day, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. You're putting your life in danger, and you may you may beat it, but you also may get shot dead on the street. Yep. Let me have Marco, hold on. Hold hold on. Hold on a minute, please. Yeah.
[01:33:16] Unknown:
Well, I forgot what I was gonna ask. I think you and I discussed Joe Lusticka's DOT thing with our conversation the other night. Did we not?
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Yes. A little bit, I think.
[01:33:31] Unknown:
Well, he that is, I would think, for people like you that was this a new car did you pay for a new car new, or is this a used car that you got somehow?
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The Jeep the Jeep that I got pulled over in the ticket was my old Jeep. No. No. No. No.
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The one you paid cash for. Yes.
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There's a new one that's been bought, and I basically got the MSO and have a copy of it. So that's Good for you. If I wanna put it into the trust. Absolutely. Well, it's a you gotta basically pay cash for it. It's not, you know, it's just not an easy way to do it. I I understand. That's why I was asking that you sent me out there with I still went and registered. I still went and registered it because I'm at the point that, look, it's just not worth it. You know, it's you can do all this, but they can also, to escalate something once you've had a certain number of tickets in their code, they can basically call you a habitual,
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renegade or an outlaw. Stop drive us. Well, be responsible. Stop driving crazy. Okay? But Joe Lustig's situation
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very carefully.
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Okay. Well, Joe Lustig's process seems to be fit perfectly for someone like yourself, And he's got it on Rumble. You can go over there to his channel and go through it. He shows you step by step. He does it a little bit different for himself there than you probably would. He has it set up in a foreign trust or something. But, regardless, you go and go through the DOT site, and they'll issue you a number. Now what we found out lately, or at least I have, due to conversations on the show, is the number's for you. And then you can go get, a display somehow or get a license tag made with it, and there's your I'm not in commerce, and the vehicle isn't either.
So, anyway, just to throw that out. Percent. I'm not I'm not dis,
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I'm not disagreeing with that. You can do that Right. A 100%. You can get a a, through the Department of Transportation.
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You can get it basically exempt, and there is a way to do that. Yes. I'm just at at the point that it's cost me enough time and money and You wanted to Obviously, I've got joints and other things that I just can't do it for that. No. I understand, Tony. Yeah. And also to default. I'm just saying for a for other people that are are well, let me see if I can put it this way, dumb Brian. For other people who are as full of piss and vinegar and testosterone as you were fifteen years ago, that may be something they want to do. Okay. But you now matured a little bit.
Well, that's the predicament I'm in. I can't stop you from doing it. We'll help you every way we can. But sometimes the prudent way is, you know, the old an old patriot told me something years ago in Atlanta. He said, don't fight battles you don't know you can't win. You know you can't win or you don't know you can't win. Go go for the battles you know you can win. What's one? Filing an affidavit with the secretary of state and getting a passport. We know that battle and that is the battle is all automatic. Yeah. There ain't no question whether you won or not. Now before Merck, I turn it back over to Merck. I've been wanting to ask you this for a couple of minutes.
If you are familiar with the work of one of your fellow Texans named Eddie Craig out there.
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I know Eddie Craig. He's a good guy. Okay.
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Okay. He seems to be on his videos. He doesn't he doesn't think our stuff's worth the crap, but be so be it. One of his things when I looked at one of his videos was that all of the and he used to be a state trooper, I believe, Texas state trooper or something. But one of the things is all the signs and everything are for commerce. All the speed signs and all the all that's for commerce for trucks and doesn't apply to you. Now that's his statement. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. Makes sense to me, but I was just wondering if you were familiar with that. Me or you? There? Who? Yeah. No. You. You. No. No. I'm not asking Merca. I'm asking Yes.
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Well, remember, Eddie Craig is I like Eddie. I've known him a long time back when, Roger when I woke up. Remember before I moved to, Idaho Idaho. Yeah. There was a great little bookstore in Austin, man. They rent they went out of business, but it was a Brave New World, Brave New
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Brave New World Books or Brave New Books or something. It was in the basement. Because Austin. It was in because Austin is because Austin has already moved into the Brave New World, so they shuck the bookstore. Well,
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it was. Well, it was like this it was a great place because it was people of like minded that were all
[01:38:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sorry. I just got a chuckle out of that.
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It was great, though. It was one of the best places I've ever been for open minded people, but Eddie Craig was doing a traffic seminar class every Sunday from, like, noon to, like, 03:00. Well, I was there for a a month or two every Sunday, taking notes and learning. That's where I started to get exposure to what the law is really saying. Then it's like, oh, okay. Well, then I'm not doing anything wrong. They're basically committing fraud. But Eddie Eddie Craig is a good guy. I've I've lost contact with him literally over the years, but my point is this. If you're ever gonna go in and argue those elements, then you're kind of already behind the eight ball because Yep. and foremost is there ain't no injured party. So what the hell are we doing here talking about what?
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Well, it's Serious. It's it's
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Challenge the it's challenge the corpus delacti.
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I don't I didn't see you with the deer, but I caught you hunting on the king's land.
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Right. So if you're gonna go in and argue a bunch of elements of traffic citations, signs, I wasn't going that fast. I was only going this fast. Well, it's already over. But Please. Just try to of the entire thing is, and foremost, it's I'm a national. I'm not a US citizen. I declared this on the open record. I'm not a US citizen. I don't live in the country. I even said that, and the judge looked at me like, who the hell is this guy? I don't live in Washington, DC. Washington, DC is a is a corporation, basically, a Yeah. A basically a nation state that has no boundaries and doesn't have any of the rules that the other 50 states have.
And I'm not a resident. Just like I'm not a resident. Oh, that's in the affidavits. You don't have.
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The laws of Washington, DC don't don't apply to you. So I'm just throwing that in there, Brian. Correct.
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Okay. Let me I don't wanna line in all the affidavits or I'm not a US citizen.
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Or per The U The Roger, this is from the original affidavit that I did appointee the For for the audience, what Brian's doing is he's taking a negative approach. I'm not this. Instead of saying I am this, both of them are alright. I'm just making a point because I've made it on the show before. You can approach it from I'm not this, a negative approach. And one of the reasons for doing that is because it's almost impossible to disprove a negative. K? So bar or you can make a definitive statement. I'm a national. Either way. K?
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Very statement in the affidavit is Yeah. Go ahead.
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America, listen, I know you got,
[01:41:04] Unknown:
several questions. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry to No. No. Brian's been trying to read the sentence of his affidavit for five minutes. Let's let him get that out, and then we can go ahead. Well, I I thought he did. Go ahead, Brian.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Okay. And it just it's basically playing on confirming what you're teaching, Rogers. The end result here is, and foremost, all the drivers, tickets, all these other little jam ups, they're secondary. Yep. The most important thing is is who you are and who you are not. And that's the line of all the affidavits is per the US state department, I am not a citizen or a or or and or a resident of any state. Yep. There. It's clearly defined in an affidavit. That prosecutor then has to, somewhere down the line, has to contest what is in that affidavit. If they don't, then they hid evidence. They didn't discuss it, and that thing will get thrown out. But, hey. Long story short, pay the tickets, get your driver's license, and go about Yeah.
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All all of these intricacies is why I try and instruct you, Brian of Greek. Stay out of that venue. Go pay. Drive responsibly. If you screw up, pay the damn fine and go on about your life.
[01:42:26] Unknown:
For Brian, so I'm assuming that you're not you weren't in Commerce. Right? So, I was wondering if you used your passport to identify yourself.
[01:42:39] Unknown:
Good question. Yes. I did use my passport when I got originally pulled over. I I never carry a driver's license on me, and it was old and expired anyways. But the original Texas driver's license was in a, invalid, revoked state because I had gotten a ticket out of state, and they all their systems talk to each other. So they'll try to that state wants to clean out their books. So to answer your question, I presented a US passport that was evidence in the ticket. Somewhere in one of the tickets, it basically said that I produced a, a US passport.
So, technically
[01:43:19] Unknown:
They should have left the phone with Yeah. Well yeah. But that that guy on the street doesn't, you know, know what Well, he just knows what he's getting off his shift today. You can't say that because it varies place to place whether they've got access to that database or not to run that thing. K? So that's why traffic is such a bitch as you can't overall say it's the same time thing and and result in every jurisdiction. Now we had one of these discussions the other day, and someone volunteered this. The cops said, why did you give me the passport? And the one of the things that came out of that discussion was you could have said, well, I gave you the passport.
I have a driver's license, but I gave you the passport because I'm not in commerce.
[01:44:08] Unknown:
Right.
[01:44:10] Unknown:
Now that's a good answer. No. That was Thursday, Brian, if you wanna listen to me. Last week. It came up last week. Anyway, good thing. Okay, Mirka. What's your next question?
[01:44:20] Unknown:
Another thing I wanted to point out to, Brian is that if you own the one the two vehicles, one that you did your loan on, you paid it off. Right? Did they give you your, title right away and, release of lien that you were the legal owner?
[01:44:42] Unknown:
On the old Jeep, yes. Once I paid it off, just like any normal process, they send you the certificate of title. That's right. It's just a certificate. It's an image of that of that, basically, bond that they create once they receive the MSO. So as you know, the MSO is the actual real chain of title. It was, one was given to me. But for example purposes in this, no. The white Jeep, I paid it off. They gave me a certificate of title, and they released a lien from my bank or the credit union I'd I'd done business with for a long time. And, so all that was fine. But, you know, long story short, the state still owns that, property. So here's just a a a a little deeper, information grab on that.
Where they get you in commerce and all of that is simply because you are operating a piece of property that the state claims that they have ownership to, and they do. The only way to get the only way to get around that is to get the MSO, to go put it in a trust and have layers upon layers Yeah. Upon things to protect it. There's It's complicated. Does everybody gotta do it? Probably not.
[01:46:00] Unknown:
There's a way to get around that. Buy a used car and get a bill of sale. The bill of sale would act as the MSO.
[01:46:11] Unknown:
I have an example for, Brian. You know, you can put you know, that your cars are paid off, you can put them on an affidavit of fact and put your the VIN number, you know, when they're you know, whatever date that you paid it or, bought them and it was released. The you know, I'm talking about the two cars and put that you're the legal lawful owner of your autos. And now they have no authority over your property or yourself. I sent an affidavit to the DMV, and they were, trying to threaten me with the registration. And I, you know, told them I was not, you know, I sent I didn't talk directly to the DMV department. I talked directly to the director and the attorney general and secretary of state of DC to put it on the record that I am I am not in commerce. I am, driving in the private in my private, you know, personal capacity.
And these are this this these two VIN numbers are my property, and they have no authority. The state of the DMV law enforcement have no authority or authorization to use my, you know, expired license or, my VIN numbers for any citation. So, you know, I just put it on an affidavit of fact, and I send it out to them. They at before giving them that affidavit of fact and lawful legal notice, they were sending me, threatening, notices that they were gonna get my car towed and that the Mhmm. Officer can pull you over and tow your car or whatever. As soon as I sent distortion. As soon as I sent that affidavit and lawful legal notice to those to those agencies, specifically, secretary of state of DC because it's you know, I want it on the record with him, the AG and DMV director.
They stopped sending me those notices.
[01:48:33] Unknown:
Good job. But the d but hold on. Dee, you're not in DC. You're in California. Why did you why didn't you send them to California?
[01:48:41] Unknown:
I know exactly why.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
I I sent it I sent it to also, two other people, state of state of secretary the secretary of state of the state of California and the state of California controller. What's crazy there is that I think, each state may have something similar, is that they have a little section on on their website for the state controller where it says that they, they take care of property unclaimed property, until someone claims it. So I sent the affidavit to them too.
[01:49:23] Unknown:
I know I know exactly what you say.
[01:49:26] Unknown:
That's it. They they do that because, technically, they are the trustee of the trust, and all property was assigned to the US corp because of the bankrupt. And that's basically they're they're assuming they're under the assumption until you stand up and say, I'm this and I'm not that, then you broke the assumption because they're technically the you're technically a ward of the state until you go reclaim your status, and that's exactly what Rogers taught is to stand up and say, I am this and not that. I'm a national. Yeah. That's very true. The amendment served that Okay. Was created when four and a half black men were brought into the union and given a new secondary status to be basically
[01:50:12] Unknown:
privileges. So that's the whole gist of what Roger's taught. Very, very good point. Well, and I Yeah. But I've never taught to on this auto stuff to do something like notice DC. That's why I was asking the question. Obviously, it worked. Right, Erica? Well, yeah. Paul Paul's got an observation too, but
[01:50:29] Unknown:
Go ahead. I know exactly why it worked. Let's see. Alright. Hold on. Paul's gonna inform us. Finish. Well Let me can I please finish, sharing what I was sharing with you today? One second, Mirka. I think it's time to to recognize your brilliance because what you did by claiming ownership of those VINs and by claiming that you were outside their system and notifying DC through the secretary of state's office, you notified them that the state of California was perpetrating a fraud and that you were specifically opting out of it. It's brilliance.
[01:51:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've never taught that before, so that's why I wanted to comment on it, Myrka. Go ahead.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Yeah. The the reason I did that was because remember, Roger, and I always say this, we once we we become a national private individual national, we are no longer under their authority. So what I did and- and I thought, you know, I'm like, oh my God, they're gonna hate this, but I don't care. They need to know and be reminded that they have- no longer have authority over me or my property. And that's what I told them. Like, I am not gonna be participating in commerce. I am in my private, personal capacity, traveling, and, and I did include a fee schedule.
I did tell them, like, you know, once if if, you know, someone in any affiliated, agency or department that is working with DMV or law enforcement is, is trespasses, you know, decides to trespass on me, this this fee schedule is activated. Okay. So I told them, like, you have no authority Oh. The state of or all the, all the other people that I mentioned in there. All the department's agencies.
[01:52:23] Unknown:
What what do you use as a tag on? You have a tag on the automobile?
[01:52:29] Unknown:
I don't have anything on there right now. I have the old plates, without the sticker. I'm gonna remove those soon, but I'm just driving around. So there's, like, they don't have an excuse to try to Have you pull you over and say, you know, hey. You don't have a license plate kinda thing. Right. I'm working on that. But the state yeah. The state of the state of the secretary of state of DC is important to make sure that you do include him in all your notices because he has to see or they have to see what's going on and it's on the record. And it's proof to them that they are not, recognizing your status. And and if needed, you can probably try to request one of those, 15 o two tickets. But Yeah. But I really don't wanna do that either. So I really I really don't want The United States involved at all except for the part to making sure that they know that they have no authority.
[01:53:34] Unknown:
One more time. Well, they still do have a little authority over you on those two sections of the internal revenue code, so you can't say none, but it's very slim. Okay. Yeah. Paul, were you gonna say something? I wanna But that's not part of The United States, though, is it, Roger?
[01:53:48] Unknown:
Wow. The IRS?
[01:53:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they are to the extent that that those are constitutional taxes. K?
[01:53:59] Unknown:
They they also recognize my affidavit. They sent me a letter telling me Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They no. They sent me a a correspondence, confirming that they got the affidavit of citizenship.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. I we're pretty close to the end of the program. I was wanting to open up the phone to see if anybody wanted to ask Howard, the other question, but but we're kinda slim now. Yes, Brian? Yes.
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Hey, hey, Roger.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:54:32] Unknown:
Oh, I'm a new caller. My name is Dave. I had a question. Got some time. Oh, hey, Dave. I thought you're Brian.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Oh, lord of mercy. No. Sorry about that. Well, we don't you sound similar. We, we don't have time to get into anything like that today, Dave. Are your time, we've discussed anything with you? I was just waiting for a good time to jump in there. But Yeah. We've been it's been a brisk conversation today. Where where in the country are you, Dave?
[01:55:00] Unknown:
I'm in Kansas.
[01:55:02] Unknown:
Okay. And, how'd you find us?
[01:55:07] Unknown:
Friend of mine, John, ex gentile,
[01:55:10] Unknown:
told me about you. Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright. I think I know that guy from Missouri. Right? Well, can you call back tomorrow? I mean, we're here six days a week. Saturday's a good day. I I almost abhor traffic discussions because there's not a clear cut solution on a lot of them. So we discourage people from being there. My job I I think my job is to help keep people out of those situations, but sometimes it's hard to get in there. So, so you can come back, like, tomorrow or Thursday or Saturday or something. Right? Alright. Sounds good. Will do. Alright. It was a traffic situation?
Yeah. Well, there's no quick thing in traffic. I don't think Roger. Go ahead. Give hold on, Larry. Go ahead, Dave. Please give us what you're wanting to call about. A synopsis.
[01:56:04] Unknown:
Oh, long story short, I've I'm getting ready to do the revoke my election process, and I own a small business, out of my house. And I was just wondering if there's any other thing any else I and if what's gonna stop the IRS from coming and wanting money from me that I'm a business owner?
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Well, depends on there's a lot of questions here. What what what what status is your business in? Is this a subchapter s? Have you elected to be taxed as a corporation? All those things. We've got he's not with us today. We've got a paralegal that comes around a couple of days a week named Mark from Oklahoma. He's been a paralegal for over twenty five years, and, he's giving trust classes and helping people write their own trust right now. And that may be something you might wanna look into. Okay? Yeah. If you want me in business here Okay. Well, that's alright. That's alright. Out of my house. Well, I yep. Well, that's alright. You wanna be protected where none of those things can happen. This is one of those ways to cover your assets. And, you can drop him. He'll be here he should be here tomorrow. He's usually here on Wednesdays and Saturdays, or I can give you his email address, and you can shoot him an email a day. But that's one way to approach your situation.
The other is the IRS hadn't done that in fifteen years with any of our students, so I don't expect them to start doing that now. Although there are people that are justifiably concerned about it because you don't understand all the nuances of the situation when you change status. But, that hadn't happened yet if that assures your mind at all. So Yeah. You can put it in a trust. You can learn. You can, they're sending out by the way, I got another notice, email today that somebody had received one of these CP 59 letters that are computer generated.
And, evidently, that's the latest tactic is to send you one of those. We haven't received your tax return for the year 2023, etcetera, etcetera. We talked about it a bit yesterday. That is a confirmatory writing, and I just told the guy I would respond back to him. It's not it's not important that you do it in ten days necessarily, but I would do this one particularly a little sooner than the others that have ninety days. And, just send them a copy of your original letter with your notification of of, putting them on notice about your affidavit being filed. And just resend that, and and I doubt if you'll hear from them again. But this is just another wrinkle. They're just trying to scare some people. So, anyway, Dave, come back and visit with us some more. We'll give you more info when we got more time. And today is not a good day for me to hang around. So, if you if you're able to be with us, you're a one man show. You ought to control your own time. We're here six days a week. Okay?
[01:59:10] Unknown:
Alright. I appreciate the info. Will do. Reach out to man.
[01:59:14] Unknown:
Reach out to strawman@mark,allcaps,.com. Strawman@mark,allcaps,writtenout,all1word,.com. And, just, just quickly detail, you know, what what your questions are, and that way, he'll be able to research those before the show tomorrow and could very quickly have an answer for you. Yeah. Well, he probably wouldn't have to research it. I'm gonna make one more comment on Go ahead. I'm gonna make one more comment on what Mark did By noticing the secretary of state of The United States, she allowed them to clarify that the state of California is indeed a political subdivision of the federal government.
So, he's the lord of that man or two. So notice them all.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Alright. Well, if you pretty brisk conversation. Good to hear you on the show, Brian. And, you're welcome to come back with us anytime you've got the time. But, we appreciate, you giving us your story and your success story and also your very important words of after all these years, I've learned to just pay the thing and go on about my life because there's bigger battles to fight that have bigger, bigger consequences. K? So, anyway, that's it for today. We'll be back tomorrow on Wednesday, and maybe Mark and Dave will be with us. I can alert Mark. So that's what I'll do as we got hey, Dave. Try and come back tomorrow. I'll, make sure Mark knows you're lurking there on the question. Okay?
[02:00:57] Unknown:
Was that Dave or Dan?
[02:01:00] Unknown:
I thought it was Dave. Wasn't it Dave? Was it Dave or Dan? Okay. We gotta cut off now. We're gonna leave you hanging. Roger? Yeah. Yes.
[02:01:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I have to respond to a couple of calls. Can you hear me?
[02:01:17] Unknown:
I hear you. Is it Larry or Dave, or who am I talking with? Yeah.
[02:01:22] Unknown:
It's Larry.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Okay. That's what I thought. Yes. Yes, Larry. You wanna do what? I
[02:01:29] Unknown:
I wanna respond to a couple of things, that was said on the show that I don't think is accurate or true. thing is, when Brian got on the show, he said all he said, they are all corrupt speaking, I think, of the courts, and that is not true. Corporations are not corrupt. Individual people are. And that's because evil is only found in men's hearts. Inanimate things or thick fictitious things cannot be corrupt. And then another thing is, there are bad apple actors in every apple bushel. So, you know, that's another reason not to say all these people are corrupt like over here in this one group. Well I was taught in grammar school not to use the words always and never.
Always contains the word all because those are two extremes. So
[02:02:25] Unknown:
that's the thing. And then I I Go ahead. Larry, I think can I yeah? Can I say something? I think we all have a tendency to generalize. I'm very guilty of that by just including everything under the lump heading of Jews, and we all have our nuances in that. And we learn here, hopefully, that specificity is what's important and to try and get around the generalizations. But I agree with you. Go ahead.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
Right. But yeah. But we gotta be careful about these generalizations. We've got a lot of new students listening. Different people come in here. And when you generalize like that, I mean, you're affecting their thinking. We have to be specific. Not all politicians are bad. Not all judges are bad. You know? Not all people that are CEOs and corporations are bad. I mean, I I I enjoy eating chicken salad chick. I mean, that that's a corporation, and they're not bad. You know? So, anyway, Brent Winters teaches and believes that the state, as a sovereign, has a duty to use its police powers to enforce and prosecute traffic violations.
That's another thing. And he mentioned that, I think it was last show or the week or the show before that. If someone wants to go back and relisten. And, I wanna respond to what Tom said about not wearing a seat belt. I I don't think that's that's a good thing to do to drive down the road without a seat belt, especially, these days. And, I got a couple of statistics here. Seat belts have saved an estimated three hundred and seventy four thousand two hundred and seventy six lives from 1975 to 2017, and that source is the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's or administration.
And seat belts reduce the risk of fatal injury to front seat car occupants by forty five percent and by risk at, of moderate to critical injury by fifty percent. And as far as the costs involved, there's, in 2019, failure to wear a seat belt cost society 11,000,000,000 in preventable injury related costs.
[02:04:43] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Thank you. I get your point. I told you. You wouldn't be exposed to this information if I wouldn't add one on ten fifteen years ago one day. So, anyway, I today's Tuesday. I'm gonna go about my business here because, because it's Tuesday. And, Ryan, thanks a lot for being with us. Good to hear your voice again. And there's there's some things we've got would have disagreements on, but I didn't confront you with them, and we can talk about them another time. So, thank you, buddy, and everyone who listened today. I hope you got something out of the show, and, we will see you, bright and somewhat early tomorrow.
Come in. So unless anybody's got something for me.
[02:05:27] Unknown:
I've I have something very quick, and I think, Roger, you'll agree that I think what Tom was trying to express was the importance of knowing the laws and knowing the procedures that they're going to be throwing at you. So if they do it wrong, you can point it out. I don't think for a moment he was advocating cutting the seat belts out of your car with a pocket knife. I think he was saying, know your stuff before you get hooked up.
[02:05:56] Unknown:
Okay. I'm gonna put my pocket knife up in. This is you you're telling me. Okay.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Well, I'll have it ready and have the draw tomorrow. Alright? But you should have a pocket knife if you're in a rollover accident. Your seat belt is is not going to be able to be unbuckled. So you need a pocket knife to cut that ditch so you can get out of the car. Very accurate.
[02:06:14] Unknown:
Very accurate. A really sharp one.
[02:06:18] Unknown:
Yes. Really. This goes to show you that every little decision you make can have profound consequences, and they're all important. See you tomorrow, kiddos. Love you. Ciao.
[02:06:30] Unknown:
We are where we are because of decisions we have made.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
So Is Brian still with us? Brian?
[02:06:41] Unknown:
Darn.
[02:06:42] Unknown:
Darn. Roger, real quick. You know when he played for UT?
[02:06:46] Unknown:
He's already gone. He's gone too. He has his finger. He literally has his finger on the exit ramp before he says ciao.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. I know. I wanna know if Howard was if, Brian Howard was related to Moe Howard or Curly Howard and and, if he played at UT while I lived in Texas because I know if he'd I'm sure my brothers know who he is because they are sports fanatics, and I'm sure they know who he is. I I can't wait to tell them
[02:07:23] Unknown:
who I was on a call with.
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Uh-huh. That's pretty awesome. Well, ask them. Ask them. Hey. Do you know what I mean by now?
[02:07:33] Unknown:
Right. Right.
[02:07:34] Unknown:
Okay. Does anybody else have anything to add from today's topic or can I take the stream down?
[02:07:41] Unknown:
Thanks, Paul. Great show.
[02:07:43] Unknown:
Thank you, Dave. Okay. Well, it sounds like about it. Sounds like it's time to, put this thing to bed. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Rogers Sales, the Tuesday edition for, 06/10/2025. Catch us here tomorrow, 11AM to 1PM eastern. We're here Monday through Saturday, eleven to one. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is the matrixdocs.com. You'll find links to exhibits, downloadables. You'll find radio streams. You'll find new student sections. You'll find links to telegram groups, to chat groups. Oh my god. The list is long but distinguished. Thanks for joining us. I'll catch you back here tomorrow, 11AM, on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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As would we, and, we do take a attempt at it on a pretty predictable regular basis. It's another one of those days. It's the Tuesday edition of the Radio Ranch. Date stamped to June through this month, and, which is gonna prove to be volatile. And, Roger Sales, your host here at the radio range. So, we're as of today as opposed to yesterday and Saturday, We have a full compliment, I think, of folks helping us. And to identify them and give them their proper credit that they have earned, mister Beaner comes forward and recognizes them.
Yeah. We need some we need some heraldry music or you know, something like
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that. Oh, yeah. Okay. I've I got that covered.
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Alright.
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But we'll do that another day.
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So,
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yeah, WDRN was with us yesterday. The only platform that wasn't with us yesterday was radiosoapbox.com, and they are never ever here on Mondays. On Monday. Yeah. So we're Paul's got
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Go ahead. Paul's got something special going for them on Monday?
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I don't know. There's just something else in the schedule. I don't know. Oh, okay. Oh, yes. I would be listening to that, but, of course, I'm doing this. So I can't. Anyways because we WDRN productions brings us the net family of broadcast services, including one zero six point nine WVOU FM in Chicago, our terrestrial radio station. He also brings us homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv, golivetv, and stream life.tube. Those are, multiple independent networks with their own, audiences and platforms. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink, our flagship station where it all began, or at least this iteration of the program and because Rogers mentioned many ex wives before, other platforms that have come and gone, we're on eurofolkradio.com.
Thanks to pastor Eli James. Yeah. And we appreciate him a great deal. Greatly greatly for sure. We're on Global Voice Radio Network, and, that's my pet project. And that is also syndicated, through Mhmm. Pod Home, Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon Music. It's it's it's, syndicated, in a number of places. That's cool. We're also using free conference calls so people can join us live on the show. And that link is on our website, thematrixdocs.com. Mhmm. Thematrix Yeah. Sure. E0cs.com. Where you can go and find all kinds of information, downloadables, resources, exhibits, interviews.
Oh my god. It's it's literally a treasure trove of information. So check it out. Bring popcorn.
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Yeah. Uh-huh. More than that. I got more I got more ex wives than Donald Trump and Joe DiMaggio. Of course, one of them wasn't Marilyn Monroe or, you know, all that. But, anyway, yep. Here we go on. And I'm that even accentuates my happiness to be here and associated with the balls, not only mister Beaner, but mister English. And the fact that we can have these wonderful two hour long discussions and and, question and answer sessions without interruption, which is particularly annoying in this, stream of information because it is complex. And I don't wanna sell your ears, and we don't wanna have to break for two or three minutes. Although they may be fine products or services or whatever, it's just your line of concentration is what I want to keep. And that's why I'm particularly happy with Paul even though Paul English has even tried to get me as suggested, let's say, suggested that we play a musical interlude like he does on his.
Kinda like maybe having sherbet after a meal to clean your palate, something like that. Give a little, a little separation. But yet, I just I we get in these discussions. I look up and it's time to end the show, you know, and, I just I like having the two hour contiguous time frame with no interruptions. And, there's there's not too many places you can do that on a, well, let's say the kind of level we're doing it. Right. Because everybody has, has expenses, and people like to eat and things and, like, have a roof over their head. And it's just been a a series of events that have allowed us to do this and, the way we do it. And I hope you appreciate it because you won't find it too many places out there otherwise. Oh, yeah. So for, yes, Paul? Will you
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running or something? We run into other, groups that are doing well, they they think it's similar to what we do, but, from what I've been able to determine, it it's nothing, like what we do. I mean, Bruce Bruce brought us a website yesterday. He, told us about an an interview or a a program on Coast to Coast AM
[00:07:31] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Before last. Our guy out of Canada.
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Right. Okay. And, the guy's website is the freedompeople.org. Well, it doesn't take very long. After you go to that website, you see that they're selling a five part series. They call it the five pillars of freedom. It's it's actually six, weeks of material, and they're selling it for over $300. And I swear to god, I don't I don't know how or where on the website, but I could've swore I saw the name Ysoft somewhere on that website.
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You saw the name what? Ysoft?
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Ysoft. It wasn't wasn't he the guy that founded the Illuminati or some shit like that? I don't know. Weiskopf.
[00:08:20] Unknown:
Weiskopf. Yes. Yeah. I believe he was a, a German Jew who well, he'd been kicked out of the Jesuits. And now, you know, so the so the question immediately arises, how big a piece of crap do you have to be to get kicked out of the Jesuits?
[00:08:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I guess. Well, I mean, they're doing a number of different things. They've got Express Trust. They've got private membership associations. Oh, you're right. Double authentication courses. These guys are, like, trying to be the go to for all things freedom and I He's he's Canuck. Right? He's Canadian, though. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Well, they're totally different than us.
[00:09:00] Unknown:
Okay. They don't have a secondary status up there that they can clearly identify, and it was used to pivot them into, set into slavery. Anyway yeah. And and, well, I dare say nobody's got what we've got because, you know, all these other folks didn't have John Benson as their law teacher. And if you don't know that old law, you don't really understand what you're doing because you can't read anything and extrapolate a meaning and without a correct definition, and they've totally buffaloed people on that. Right. So it's just one of the unique things. I don't know. I'm not saying I'm so great or anything. I just happened to be guided by the hand that, had me cross paths with John and Glenn in the six months they were teaching, thirty well, 1992.
How many years ago was that? Thirty three? So thirty three years ago, as a matter of fact, just about just about this time of year, a little bit later, was when that happened. Nobody else has that experience. And, all the other people that went through the, John and Glenn course there were there for taxation. I didn't have a tax problem till I met John and Glenn. And, That's funny. I mean, it's true, you know? And, boy, I had a big one right pretty quick afterwards, but, nobody's got that knowledge. And even the people that went through the course, Vamoosed when they got raided, because they their motivation was different. Their motivation was to get away from something, which is the, the grabbing hands of the individuals representing Satan.
And mine was just because I'd had a curiosity for about twenty years at at that point already that something was wrong. And, here I had a thread that I could start tugging on, and so I stuck. And the other 1,199 people didn't. And, so there you go. It says a lot about motivation in this life too, doesn't it?
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You were you were seeking truth.
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They were I was truth seeking. That's correct. All those things are correct. See, and isn't that an interesting, look on and a perspective on, motivation. So anyway, and here and then I just couldn't shake it. I couldn't shake it for all those years. I just kept thinking about it and thinking about it. I'll tell you, I've told y'all before, and it'd been a while, what really drove me through that is my mind would constantly go back to 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, which is the jurisdictional statement of the IRS. And John had that nailed. Nobody else has ever found it. Oh, and been able to identify it as evidenced by, well, some of the finest attorneys in the country, Larry Beecraft being one of them. If you wanna look at the tax, the tax area, he's one of the most recognized tax attorneys in the country or was at one point, won some pretty big cases.
And even Larry Beecraft didn't didn't see this. You know, he was going around the country with a pal of his, a an ex military JAG officer, constitutional attorney, up at least at least by by claim. And, I I got the feedback at some of their meetings. People had stand up and asked them about my stuff, and they go, nah. That doesn't work or whatever their comment was. They're quite negative on it. So not everybody sees this. And, if you do, if you're here, if you're, bitten by the bug as it were and you take your time out of the daily, routine to come listen to us, which some do, because, man, if you're the right person, once this bites you, it's gotcha.
And you can't shake it. It's just not something like I don't wanna do that anymore. It's like you can't. Because your your body just keeps coming in your mind back to this area, and I kept at it and kept at it. And and for a while, before I understood it, I was trying to set up my life, Paul, where I do things that would keep me out of what I considered a, a contract type situation that would nexus you back into the system because I still thought that's the way it worked. And that went on for a few years, you know, driving with a a a a bogus tag on the car and, just all kinds of stuff. And it was always, well, what is this gonna get me back into the system? Do I need to avoid that? And that was, of course, the error of my thinking at the time, and then a lot of people still think that, especially when they're new here.
And, that's why you gotta go in and kinda whitewash all that. The the contract is a presumption. It comes at your birth, and it is for a fraudulent, no doubt, apothecated debt of the, that these scoundrels pulled off in the bond market. So they, they just did a little international buy. We're about to go through that again. You know, I mean, we did a talk the other day, Paul, on bonds, did a little little teaching on it, and it's still coming up. And, the Japanese inflation over there finally catching up with them, which means they've got to raise the price of their bonds. Did you been 0% bonds? You could go over there as a big as a big time Jew and, or or whatever your company was, you know, one of these scoundrels and you go over there, not all of them, a bunch of others did it too.
But they go over and with their wherewithal borrow, well, let's just say for round numbers sake, you know, a bill a billion dollars, a million dollars, a billion dollars, whatever the amount was. And they would come and take that and then invest it in European or US bonds at three or 5%. Now that's called the carry trade. And it has been the stalwart of our entire capital system worldwide for couple of decades at least, well, it's unraveling. It's unraveling right now. Japan's having to go back and raise that interest rate from zero to cover the inflation they're going through. And as that happens, all these people that have got their loans out, they they gotta pay the new interest rate. Okay? And it's unwinding the world economy. That's what's going on. It's the bond market.
And so, anyway, we can we can look forward to that. If you got anywhere with all of us, I tell you. Everybody else will tell you. I don't care who you buy it from, if you can find it. I'll tell you who you ought to buy it from is who you trust the best you can, who or where you can find something you can purchase. Because there's gonna be a time when, gold and silver are, they're called you know, there's a specific name for them, Paul. I don't know if you've ever heard it or not, but there will be a time when gold and silver will be classed as unobtanium.
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Uh-huh. Yep. Okay?
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Absolutely. And, and so, do it now. If you got that and you're able to, I'm I'm sure all of our people already have. But, boy, there's some great opportunities out there. I told the story the other day that Robbie Noel used to tell about the the kid over in Europe. He worked as a as, like, a car hop, a bellhop, or whatever at one of these fancy spas like Baden Baden. And, one of his customers that knew him gave him a tip of a gold coin. And he went back home, and he put it in a drawer and forgot about it. And then the hyperinflation came, in Germany, and he found the coin or remembered it or whatever and brought it out and went and bought the hotel with it.
There you go. That's the kind of opportunities that are gonna be presenting themselves with people. Yes, Paul. Now now, Raj, I I wanna mention I mean, I did talk about that website. Can you talk right right in the microphone, Paul? You're a little off the side. Yeah. I'm sorry.
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Okay. Thank you. I got it turned down a little bit. Otherwise, I create an echo in it and and a back talk or a Okay. Willie, you're fine. We you're audible. Okay. I mentioned that website a little, a little bit ago, and I wanna be clear that I'm not picking on that website. I mean, god love them. You know, they're they're touching on, like, the important, things that people should be touching on, you know, personal sovereignty, freedom, personal responsibility, freedom from tax debt, PMAs. They're touching the hot buttons. Okay? So I don't wanna pick on them because what really irritates me is when freedom and, patriotic movements, just slam each other.
I mean, the one thing that the the globalists and the powers that be have over us is they have the ability to work together. We don't have that. We're separated, segregated, and fighting each other. Now if we can ever get together, they've got no they've got no chance. So we gotta work together.
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He told us we were stiff necked people, and he's correct.
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Exactly. K. So I'm not picking on the website. You know, even though there is a graphic on there that looks like a sun with rays, out with an I in the middle, That's kinda creepy. I'm just just saying, but I'm not picking on the website anyway.
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Okay. That that was all I wanted to say. I wanted to clarify I'm not picking up. I you know, the only my big problem with people is like with the late David Strait. To me, it was a charlatan. And he was, trying to justify the prices he was charging people by writing, like, 31 page documents that you file. Right. You know? So would you rather pay him and file a 31 page document that has errors in it, like identifying yourself as a sovereign citizen, or would you do or rather get it your information for free and do one sentence?
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Well, I think what that group did was they did it to themselves because they have within their group the the, agents and methodologies necessary to attack other groups. Anybody that tries to come into David Street's group and and proposes anything different, they are ostracized. They might as well be honest because they're shunned.
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Okay. Well, hey. Oh, I see that, and I know about that. And it's unfortunate because well, look. We get these refugees here occasionally, not daily, but we get refugees from both of those other and some other ones too. And, they're just being taught wrong wrong information. And I don't know the reasons for that. I don't really know the individuals behind them personally or could ascertain their motives, but they all include paying them something. And some of them are huge dollars, amount, especially in times like these when things are short for families and ordinary circumstances.
But I don't build put them down to build us up. I I I show you what they're doing and then counter it with the the reality of what the the law really is and what this thing that we're battling really is. And see if you know what it is, you can beat it. I'm not sure they ever beat it, quite frankly. Alright. So, anyway, that's where we are. If you're, tired of being under, under the yoke of Jewish slavery, Revelation two and three nine slavery, which is what the whole world is for the most part, then we got an answer for you. If you wanna listen to it, if you wanna exercise it, that totally is up to you. We've never told anybody to do this. It's gotta be voluntary.
If there's one lesson that I've learned at all this is that right there. The other lesson would be that, to realize that we've got the power. We've always had the power. They tricked us out of it. That's why they've got it accumulated over hundreds of millions of people giving it to them. Yeah. Do this to us. Do this to us. Yep. Here's my okay on it. You can go you can governors this way. And, you know, that's the way it is. So take it back. You've got the power. You were cheated out of it fraudulently. That negates any contracts involved.
Take it back. Mhmm. We don't have too many people fighting. Now I did have, our our listener, Dan, out in Oregon, Paul. And, you may remember this. About a year and a half ago, he had the situation with his dog where the lady was coming to go walk in her in something that will I don't know. I remember all of it. There's a woman that walked part of it on his territory, part of it not on his territory, and his dog came out bitter.
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There was a right of way to a public walking trail
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Kind of. That Something like that. On his property or something. Yeah. Well, he went ahead and did that. He got contacted by one of these TV things. You know, hey. Would you like to have your case tried on TV? This, that, and the other. And Dan thought he could expose the national thing, so he did that. And we didn't know, what if they played it or not until, he sent me a copy of it this morning. And Oh, really? The yeah. And, the three, I I mean, I can shoot it to you, Paul, if you wanna play it. It's not there's not much notable there, you know, quite frankly. I mean, you I you we can do that if you wanna do it. It's not very long. But, anyway, what they showed, they had a three judge panel up there. He must have had to come to some agreements before they shot it.
And so the whole the judges were, of course, concentrating on the dog and the bite, and they had both him and the female that was bit right there in front of him. And, you know, a few feet of farts so they couldn't swing at each other. And, so they had pictures of the bite, and there was a puncture wound and all that stuff. And I didn't see on this snippet, they didn't have anything about the trespassing or any of that. And then at the very last, he tried to bring up the fact that he was a national. He didn't think that should apply to him. Well, I didn't see, and I don't know because I don't know the whole story if there was stuff in the paperwork for him to do this thing if they didn't say, well, you can't bring in other exhibits or whatever else. And as I've said for many years, this is a very difficult concept to bring up and get across in sound bites.
K? It's just very difficult because it goes against everything these people have ever been exposed to for the most part. And so at the last, they kinda overruled him and charged him $5,000 for, the dog bite. And, so but my point being is you can't just say I'm a national and have all these people that have never been exposed to this. It's so cattywampus, upside down, back ass ass words because of the equivocation and all that stuff. You gotta get somebody's attention. Well, they'll sit down. You can feed them a little bit. You know? And so, anyway, that happened today, and he sent it to me this morning. And, I guess he got had to boost $5 out of that for the dog bite. Okey. Okey the dog.
So, anyway, I got that this morning, and, that was kinda interesting. It just reinforces what I already know. You can't go into a court, especially if you haven't filed affidavits. You should put that on the record, and it may be a little memo, legal brief, or something with it, etcetera. You can't expect these judges to know what you're talking about. And, of course, that's why we try and encourage you. What part of our game here is to do the best we can, but keep your butt out of a courtroom.
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Right. But, Raj, all those all those TV shows like the People's Court and Judge Judy and all that happy crap. Before you even get in the door, you have to agree to grant the court jurisdiction. They make the rules. They don't work on constitutional
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law. They work on private law. Yeah. It's TV. Law. It's TV. Come on. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm sure all those things by the way, she's now the attorney general of this DC. So give judge Janine a little credit here.
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No. I I said judge Judy.
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Oh, judge Judy. You know that irritating So, anyway, he sent me that this morning. I can send it to you. You can play it if you want. It's only and I said it's pretty fairly short, but there's nothing really substantial in there I don't know. Except to say that you don't wanna bring this up in sound bites. And and I'm sure he'd have more leeway in a courtroom because he could have probably entered some of those things in in into his defense. But regardless, sorry, Dan. And, you got yeah. He was he was trying to be very good intention and going, I've got a chance here to get the national thing into this, situation might be on television. And it was, but it didn't expand on it or give it any kind of glorification
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that it deserves at least. Right. So what anyway What it what it did do is it it enabled him to get out from underneath the issue, and the show paid her the $5 because they took it out of his compensation for being there. There. Okay. Well, that's probably true. They probably paid him 5 and gave it to her. Okay. Yep. Yep. Exactly. So
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Well, anyway, thanks, Dan. Good effort. Probably, if somebody's gotten a a chance to do that, make sure you're you're a little on on a little firmer ground. Yes. Is that Alan right there that's, trying to say something?
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It's Dan, actually. Hey, Dan. In Oregon. Hey, Dan. Yeah. So, you know hey there. It's good talking with you. You know, that issue was over the whether Okie needed a dog license or not because once this happened, the animal control got involved and and, I resolved it with them. Animal control dropped it. Yeah. So, yeah, in their that court, that was how the national status got involved. And I did supply my affidavit and all that, but it was a little bit mixed as far as a separate issue than, the claim for the dog bite.
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I see. So yeah. So it went. Yeah. Absolutely. I see. They interrogate. Well, I'm kind of interesting that they put it in the clip, but they weren't gonna follow it anywhere. And so you're not gonna get that exposure from that from that, angle, I think. But good work. Good try. And, and, did they, did you have to come out of pocket on that fine? Did you come out of pocket on that fine or did they pay it?
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Yeah. No. Paul was right on that. That was part of the deal was they paid the the loss or you know? So yeah. No. That didn't come out of pocket. That's kinda one reason I did it as well, but, I'm glad it's over. I mean, that's over a year and a half ago that they Yeah. It was quite a while. I thought they weren't even gonna air it. Yeah. And the strangest thing, I mean, I never watched TV in the afternoon, but it was hot. And I'm telling you, oh, what's on at 04:00? And some begun there. There you were. Show that they had, and and it looked like me.
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Well, it's too bad. No. That's Too bad you didn't get to put okie on the stand.
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He's be such a sweet dog. He'd warm her heart over. I
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see. What'd he buy her for? Anyway.
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What'd he buy her for? She provoked it. I I I didn't even see you know, I think that's still questionable. You know, had we gone to a real trial, I would have got her medical records and done fang marks on her bite versus his jaw and different things like that. Because there's no when they show the bite, there's no reference like a quarter as far as, you know, spacing and you know? And she there are things she said, better to the bone, and she was pretty chunky. And if it was in the thigh, I'd have a hard time to believe that you reached the bone. But, Matt, she changed her appearance when she walked in court, man. I could not believe it was the same person that I saw on the hill, that day. But, Yeah. Anyway Hey. She was going now what?
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Dan, let's let me get this straight. There's a your property has a there's a right of way to on the property to it it shares land with a trail, a public trail for hiking or something. That's what she was going on. Is that correct? If I remember right or wrong. Yeah. It was
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yeah. It wasn't actually even a public trail. It was National Forest, and it's up behind my house, but, the driveway leads up there. So she would have had to come up the driveway and then cut up, and then she's in National Forest a few Mhmm. Ten, twenty feet up into past the driveway.
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Yeah. So yeah. And all poor poor Oakley. Heart disease. Somebody was on his master's land there, and he didn't like it. Right?
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Yeah. I I when I heard him bark, I thought it was deer up there because that's who you see usually up there. There's Usually. Okay. I've been here, twenty years, and there's been two incidents of people back there where this happened. I mean, people just it's not a public trail. It's not a popular trail. It's just a firefighting trail. You know? They they put a line in in case they gotta fight fight a fire. But, yeah. So why didn't they come on the trespassing?
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Why did why didn't they bring up trespassing in your little, short trial?
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Well well, they did. There was another portion of that. They had, like, two parts, part one, part two, and they did bring it up. She's basically lying. I mean, she says, oh, no. I never walked on private property as in is that she was in a dress. It was in summer. There's poison oak all over and and, you know, unless you're on a path, you're not gonna be bush wacky to look for this cat for two months that's been missing for two months. That was the other thing. Yeah.
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She was looking for a cat? Two months.
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Yeah. She's looking for a cat. Her impetus or reason for being there. So, anyway, I'm I'm glad all that's behind me. And, I'm young. I I just was shocked that they let me even stay national while we didn't get to go into it. Yeah. But and my final thing was, well, if you don't recognize, national status, maybe I'm in the wrong venue. So,
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Well, no. You were in the right place and you had the right position. You just didn't get the chance to argue it, and you couldn't overcome their ignorance and that situation in in sound bites. And they wouldn't let you anyway. They're not gonna let you get on there and go, hey. This is the TV show that exposes the fraud. But good try, Dan. Good try, man. That was
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Well, I appreciate that. Hey. Yeah. To bring up Yes. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Keeps in touch. So, you know, I was gonna try to do a group leader for Brent's upcoming class.
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Do you have to But,
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after looking what's involved, I'm gonna have to, renege on that intention. Oh, that's unfortunate. And Okay. You know? Yeah. It's slow they're doing it a little different than they had in the militia course. The the price goes up. Group leader pays a 180. Nine more people pay $90, and that's kind of a pretty big amount to collect from everybody. Nine different people can send indigenous one payment and take care of sending books out if they wanna book. So it's kind of a busy time of year for me. So that's the main reason is I understand.
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Understand.
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So Well, let Go ahead. I think I let I told Chris. I think I told Chris that I would do that. So but I'm gonna not.
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So Well, they've changed the, specifics, and this is on the upcoming comparative law class that Brent's given. And he does ask for a donation. And, man, I know Brent, you know, works his butt off on this stuff, and he's got sheriff Dar there, and he's got all the rest expenses and the websites and webmasters and all the rest of that stuff. So it does take funds. That's why I'm so thrilled about what we've got going here is we don't necessarily have to have that. We welcome it. It helps us if we get it, but we don't necessarily have to exist on fumes. So, good.
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Okay, Dan. Well, thanks. What else? No. You got anything else, Ed? Yeah. Just, appreciate those show. And, it you know, at one point we're wondering how come more people aren't being nationals in, like, within my own family, they're I get treated like,
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you know A leper. You're a leper. Right.
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Yeah. But, I did get one brother to to look at the site. At least I gave him the site to look at. I'm not sure if he's looked at yet. But, and my sister, you know, she goes, oh, Trump's gonna take care of all that tax stuff and oh, brother.
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Oh, yeah. Well, you know, and that's the thing, of course, is is not just about taxes. The threshold is much bigger, but sometimes you can't see that threshold till you get in on the tax issue. That's why we've always used taxes as such a, a come on for folks. But, you know, I've told Jeff, and it's one of my biggest surprises, Nan, over this, is I just thought the line to do this would back up to Omaha. You know? And, boy, it just doesn't. And that's a shock. You know? Things like being on Jeff Rentz for two hours and not getting one single person out of it on pretty darn good interviews.
I I don't understand, and I it it's still, is, quizzical for me, but I know that it's powerful. I know it works. I know there's people that need it and want it and are interested in it, and I'll continue to put one foot in front of the other till till probably I put both feet underground, because I know how powerful this is. It's a game changing, could be a world changing, piece of information. You know, we've got several listeners that are pretty bright that, that think that and have told me that they think this is the most important message in the world. Well, I I have too, but I wouldn't come out and said that, but it's pretty damn important.
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Yeah. I agree and, appreciate you, a lot that you put this to you know, given this to us so freely.
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Well, I I learned a lot from you, Roger. Enjoy my own. Well, you're welcome, Dan. That's what I'm evidently put on the earth here to do. This is kind of my calling, my Ballywick, and I couldn't nobody else could understand it. I kept trying to get other people to Here, try and try this on for size. No. No. It's way too big. And, at some point, well, it's gotta get out there. And I'm and and evidently, I'm the one that's supposed to do it. So that's when I started one at a time. You know, I've been given this message pretty continuously and predictably since, the fall of nineteen ninety two.
Don't remember exactly when, October, November, maybe September, somewhere around in there. But when the guy in Atlanta that was a Mormon guy, and he was an insurance guy, and he is the one that had the contact initially to have the meeting in his office. And that was all fine and good until, as they say in Spanish, until his wife found out he was playing with IRS and, that she who must be obeyed put a stop to that crap real quick. And so it was either we weren't gonna have any kind of a meeting or information exchange unless I did it.
And I was teaching. I was inspired by the information. I've been looking for a thread for all those years, decades, really. And I said, well, okay. Here we go. And I mean to tell you, in the old days, we had a any of you familiar with Atlanta. I know Paul is. We Spaghetti Junction, out there in Norcross at, I 85 and 285 is is just one of those intersections, you know, that you see that that's why they call it Spaghetti Junction. And there was a big, office complex right next to there called the Koger, k o g e r, center. And, and that is, we were very close to there, and, we started having meetings. They had a meeting room. If you had an office in the complex, they'd give you a free meeting room anytime you wanted it. And there was a, after the thing got closed and we couldn't use his office anymore, there was a, a retired bird colonel, army bird colonel West Point graduate who, was a really good guy, and he was really into it and us doing it. So he had an insurance business in in that building, gave us that office to use. That meeting room, and it's on the Northeast Side of town. I lived over in Marietta on the Northwest Side of town. That's about a thirty minute drive each way.
Well, I'd get there every Wednesday night, I think. Tuesday night, I forgot. And we would, ride over there, and whoever show up, we'd give a three hour presentation. I didn't know it this well. And I would present it from an entirely different direction from the bottom up totally. And, some take about couple hours, three hours usually. And, sometimes there'd be nobody show up at all. And I have to pack up all the stuff and put it in the car and drive thirty minutes back home. One time, one guy showed up, and I sat there and gave him a three hour presentation of one guy. So, my dedication to the information has been very strong for a long time, and it's only through teaching it over and over and over and over again that I have become so proficient at it and gone along the path and been able to find the things that I was wrong on back then and correct them and put them and incorporate them into our teaching, platform here. But, man, that's the kind of commitment I've had to this.
Never once have I asked anybody for any money, so or any currency. So, anyway, that's where we are. We've come a long way, and, we're very pleased with where we are. We wish we were further. Wish we had more folks. Should have. Can't really put my finger on why not, but I gotta be pleased with where we've come. As I look back over my shoulder and look at the, look at the road we've taken. You know, Brent talks about you never you always look ahead when you're on the tractor. You don't ever look behind because then you get zigzagging. Well, that's the same way with boats. If you're if you're in a boat and you're going at some speed, if you continue to look forward, you'll have a straight line behind you on your on your, prop wash and all that stuff. And if you keep looking back, you're gonna keep having zigzag stuff.
So we keep our eyes to the forefront, and we continue to, bang the drum. We got enough people now where if everybody is out there talking to people about it, we ought to start to get into exponential growth. And, we've seen a number of new folks here around here lately, and that's good. And so all I know to do is just keep putting one foot in front of the other and, trying to find the people that the information resonates with. You listening here are obviously more than likely one of them. And, congratulations on who you are because you you gotta be somebody real special that this information resonates. That's what I've come to conclude.
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Hey, Roger.
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Yes, sir.
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I'm back.
[00:42:22] Unknown:
Who's that? Is it Brian? It's Brian. Hey, Troy. Alright, man. Okay. Well, you came in this morning here. Good to hear your voice on the show. This is Brian Howard. He's one of the guys from years ago. Used to have his own little show on our network for a while and then realized the demands that are involved with something like that. And he's got a family with two two girls and stuff like that and other obligations. And it takes a commitment to do this. Okay? I gotta get up every morning, even though I don't want to some mornings and get up and come up here with you guys because there may be somebody on the program here that's wanting to get out from Jewish slavery. And if you wanna get out from under the Jewish yoke, then I wanna help you. Okay?
And we'll both go to Happy Land when we can flip a bird at those son of a bitches and say you murdering lions, thieving, satanic, slaving bastards. Okay. So, Brian is the one that brought us a couple of real important press the envelope issues. One on the driver's license issue in Idaho, which was an interesting ordeal. That was the one. And then he went to the hospital there in Austin with got the straight scoop on the, on on the procedure that they use when a child's born in one of the hospitals in The US, and I guess they've all got the same protocol on, producing the birth certificate and, entering them into this world. So while you, decided to come back and say hello. So for the audience who's probably never heard Brian, I don't think you've been on the program in years, Brian Howard. So, thank you. Another one of these warrior type guys that, got no too much fear and plunges ahead. You know?
[00:44:12] Unknown:
Morning, Raj. Yep. Morning, everybody. It has been a little while. Yep. Pardon my, absence, but life gets busy. And Okay. Sure. More, you interact with these with this fraudulent system, the more I've learned that there for a while, I thought I had some things figured out, but, a couple more years actually, a few more years and a few more, run ins, I guess, I'll call those. It's just beyond obvious what a fraud the system is. I listeners listeners don't know, but I recently got a, I got a ticket, basically jammed up in traffic court again. And, I started this in 2013 when I heard Roger on, the Joyce Riley Show. She was taking a break, and Yeah. I just moved to Idaho and heard, Roger, and that's when we met. But, been in touch over the years.
Last few years, I've lost a little distance just because I, like I said, got busy and at some point kinda just put things aside and down. I thought I had, but I got basically trapped up in another ticket, which was a county court instead of a city court. City courts are very easy to deal with. They don't, right, they don't issue warrants, etcetera. But the county court, that's the state. That's actually a a Yeah. You know, basically a corp subcorp of the state corporation. They're all subcorps, but the cities are much lean. You know, they don't get jammed up as much. They don't have time for it. But the city courts are super corrupt, and I ran into a super corrupt judge here. And, if I would not have, you know, put some things in the affidavit and pepper them up, they would have tried to body slam me every which way but loose. They grossly violated due process.
[00:46:09] Unknown:
Yep. I wanna say we got a little delay here in the back on this platform, but let me just say that Brian has relocated, and you live in Tennessee now. So let's just put it that way. Yeah. I'm in there.
[00:46:24] Unknown:
I'm in the volunteer state of Tennessee, which is good and bad, just like most states. They're all corrupt at the end of the day. Yeah. Some are better than others. But, regardless, whatever. I had a Uh-huh. A traffic ticket situation that came up and I had to defend myself, to the point that I actually had to hire an attorney because it was gonna turn into a situation where they were gonna try to put a bunch of charges on me and they were attempting to, but I cut them off at the old Okay Corral. And, I had to lawyer up, which I did not wanna do and you know, had real reservations about it, but think think my creator, I actually maybe got a decent honest bulldog that wasn't gonna let anybody trounce on my do anything further what they did, but they and I don't know how detailed or in it I'll go into here or maybe at another time, but they they they tried everything again once once again under the books and tried to finagle and hush you and, you know, threaten you and do all the things that they're gonna do in these small courts, but I think I've learned a valuable lesson at this point, and it's not worth it. And Well, one thing I appreciate you saying not worth it.
[00:47:46] Unknown:
For one thing is you're going into I'll I'll identify the city you're in. I don't think it's any big deal. You're now in Murfreesboro, which is about halfway to the Alabama border there from Nashville, give or take, isn't it?
[00:47:58] Unknown:
About somewhere about halfway between Roughly, it's it's like 40 about forty minutes from, Nashville, thirty five, forty minutes.
[00:48:08] Unknown:
Just a basically a commuter town, sister commuter town. Yeah. Nice old town. So we got we got some other good, listeners in in Tennessee now. And, one of them had a real interesting problem with a birth, a little bit involved. He's over in the eastern part of the state. And, I can't go into the whole story because I can't remember it all, but he finally got it resolved. And one of the things they did was we pointed him. He came on the air with the problem. We got a brain trust here, Brian, now, and, people giving him suggestions. And somebody had an organization they suggested he contact that is affiliated with, like, let's just say constitutional oriented lawyers.
And he found somebody to help him, and I believe they got that, situation with the baby all, cleared up. You didn't come to us in time here, with yours, so we could suggest that to you, but you found one anyway. Good for you. How'd you find him?
[00:49:05] Unknown:
I I did. I well, it's actually, I've honestly, by pure luck, I believe. It was just Wow. This is all god stuff here. K? But how how did you locate No doubt. You cross paths? No doubt. I've I just found them on, basically, a lawyer referral site called SuperLawyers. But, I had you know, I looked into it. I didn't wanna get a young attorney that's, you know, trying to prove himself or really just doesn't know somebody. Make his mark. Yeah. Yeah. Not interested in that. It was beyond way beyond that at this point, and the the judge had physically threatened me. I basically went into the court, and I'll just give a a quick thing. No. I can't put all the details in this one call, but, I didn't wake up yesterday. I know all about the bonds. I know how the whole system works and how they trick you in with the all just everything. The from the straw man name, which is an Endsley just fiction.
And I basically took you know, attempted to take control of the hearing and ordered the judge and the and the clerk to basically bring the bond because, there was a bond with a QSAT number on it, and I'm the beneficiary of that of this basically hearing. And they don't wanna hear it, and a lot of people may agree or not, but it it is what it is. There's no doubt there's a financial transaction taking place. They try to hoodwink you. They do it all day long, with basically announcing a name that sounds like you're but we all know that the there's an all caps name is not a proper English name. It's not your name. It's basically similar to yours. There's a whole financial trap set up around it. And, the judge didn't like that, so he heard me out of the room real quick. So nobody else in the room heard it. There were probably 45 to 50 people in there going through the same process of getting abused and used.
And, I was about the person they called up to the bench, and he got me out of the courtroom real quick and then told me to wait to talk to the state literally, which there's no such thing as the state. There's no there's never an injured party. There's no corpus delecti. There's no charge that they can bring against anybody. That's even, that's even lawful. They're all, it's all fraud. But unless you know what you're doing and you can firmly put those things on the record, then they're gonna steamroll you. Even if you do, they're still gonna steamroll you, which is what my point is. This is not worth it.
After, you know, twenty after about a, I'd say, a fifteen year process, I'll honestly say that now that, you're just playing with fire. There's way better ways to go about this and protect yourself than, you know, Brian. You know, let them basically try to steal you.
[00:51:55] Unknown:
As I've told you, we've talked a couple of times here on the side since you had this arise. And, I tell the audience, you know, I've I certainly applaud. And Brian Howard is the absolute epitome of what I'm talking about, the fearless warrior that wants to go in and do the battle and press the envelope. And he's proven that on several different occasions in several different circumstances. But Brian, all these years down the road, has come the same conclusion I had is that if I I can't tell you not to do that because I it's a real, it's a real, positive thing for you that you're that type of warrior individual, you know? But when you're going into these circumstances and you've never done it before, if you don't know what's required for you to get in there and do that and all the stuff you don't know and the technicalities they throw at you and you gotta put your whole life on the back burner to get that win.
And even if you get the win, they've stolen your life from you. Yep. K? Pay the funds for the most part. Now I'm I'm not gonna tell you absolutely to do this. I'm just saying it's better on your karma, your peace of mind, your your battling mind, and all that to go ahead and pay the pay the fine. Whatever it is, I mean, I will wait. There's a limit again, I guess, course to that. But usually, they're pretty minimal in these traffic incidents and learn the lesson and go back and come back to fight another day. That's just believe me. And I hate to tell you that, but it's the reality of the situation. So unless you're well, unless you're very unusual like Joe Lustica.
Do you do you've have you heard his name come up, Brian? Joe Lustica? I don't think so. Maybe you might have mentioned that in one of our recent conversations. I think I ring him up. I did. I think, but you don't know who he is. Well, Joe came No. I haven't. Brought to us. Research yet. Well, he was brought to us by one somebody that got a hold of me about the same time you did, many years ago, which Kaye and and Paul, and they had moved to Connecticut. She lost her house, went into court on the foreclosure thing in o eight with no legal nothing and nothing, just going into court to try and keep her house from getting stolen. Well, I don't have to shouldn't have to tell you. They just rolled over her like a deep 10 caterpillar.
Okay? And so, anyway, they moved back east for to take care of grandchildren. And, the young grandchild, the the son, was taking guitar lessons, and Joe's a professional guitar instructor. And the he was, a grand son's instructor. So that's how we found him. And, he she sent him over here. And well, Jake's, Joe, excuse me. He just had a situation. You'd love this, Brian. He just got a situation where he was about to take the town he lives in back from the state of New Jersey. And what he did was he he's a real good researcher. The guy just got a talent in this area. Okay?
He had originally been stopped by a cop who had a penis erectus for him there in his little town and his makeshift tag and charged him with things like having snow on the roof of his car. And so he tries to go in and fight him. He tries to go and fight him at the local level and jurisdiction, and he gets into a nice discussion with the judge. And, the judge finally goes, do you buy gasoline? And he goes, yes. Yeah. I've got jurisdiction. And so so he starts appealing it and all that stuff. And, and, and he, and then the appeal level wouldn't answer him. And so he starts digging into the old, back to the beginnings of the city And he found in the city charter, will they have to recognize the constitution in New Jersey and The U S and they weren't doing it. And he filed a quo, quo, quiet, A quo warranto, I think. Quo warranto. One of those Yep. Are up, one of those types of suits, and he copied the governor, the attorney general, and all the courts. Well, hell, all of a sudden, they're banging on his door. We're live we're dropping these charges, but but we gotta go in and get this discovery stuff cleaned up. So they didn't want anything hanging out where he could come back and say they didn't follow procedure.
And so they but they bended, man, like a straw in the wind. And the eventuality would have been that he got to get the city back and share it with the rest of the people in the city because they weren't following their original charter. Okay? Now that's a hell of a way to approach this, but that's exactly what happened. And the minute that thing hits somebody's desk that understood what was happening, I go, no. No. No. No. Drop these charges. Let's get this guy. We don't want any part of this. Okay? So, that was what happened. And, pretty interesting.
Pretty interesting. But these traffic things are different. Okay? And it's just because, like, in what's the county you're in up there, Brian?
[00:57:16] Unknown:
Rutherford County. Rutherford County.
[00:57:19] Unknown:
Okay. So Rutherford County's, boss Hogg and Roy Bean, the hanging judge, they they do have jurisdiction over the streets and roads in the county. That's called subject matter jurisdiction. But they don't have jurisdiction over Brian because he's filed this, and that's in persona jurisdiction. And when we use the same jurisdiction, we need to go in there and separate those two because you can't blend them. Alright? So they may have subject matter jurisdiction, but you don't have any persona. Okay? And so, anyway, just a little interruption to your story and what Brian you you you got them on a technicality.
You wanna go into that?
[00:58:04] Unknown:
Yeah. They're basically always gonna be a technicality from the minute that you're pulled over. And like I said, there's so many elements of it that they're just gonna steamroll you, you know, no matter what really what you do. But that yeah. And that because they can. There's no there's no recourse. The lower courts don't give a rats. You know what? They Right. They're gonna do it just to do it. And then the system's set up so the round in appeals, which no one really ever gets to, or it's this long expensive thing. So the odds are that the the odds are already really stacked.
[00:58:38] Unknown:
And that's what the place you get real law. By the way, the place you get real laws at the appellate level. Okay. Now hold it, Brian. I'm gonna put you on the back burner. At the lowercase. I gotta put I gotta put you on the Howard back burner for just a because you gotta say goodbye to some folks here in just a Paul's gonna come on, and we, we have, we got a couple of places, one over in England, a network in England, and, a FM, sit station in Chicago that carry the hour hour of the show thanks to people helping us out. And this whistler signifies that we're about to tell them bye bye. And the guy to do that is one Paul Biner, who you don't know either that you're about to meet. Paul? That would be me. Hey, Brian.
[00:59:26] Unknown:
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[01:00:00] Unknown:
limey friends. I don't mean to give you a head fake there. I thought we were getting I thought you were leaving. Yes, Paul. Through Friday, both hours. Okay. Well, I can't if it changes, I can't keep up with it. That's why part of why you're here, we just wanna pay you the big bucks anyway. Go ahead. You said you had something to add? It started out just as one hour,
[01:00:21] Unknown:
but, actually, they filled out the schedule. They gave us the hour as well. One thing I wanted to mention, I just love hearing Brian. And, anybody familiar with the film Nothing But Trouble from 1991? Mm-mm. Not me. Okay. Nothing But Trouble from 1991 was, Dan Aykroyd's directorial, debut. It starred Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, and Emmy Moore. And it's, it's based on a story by his brother, Peter. It stars Aykroyd and John Candy, both in dual roles along with Chevy Chase and Demi Moore, and tells the tale of two yuppies played by Chase and Moore, and clients of one of them who are taken to court for running a stop sign in the bizarre financially bankrupt hamlet of Vulcanvania, which is dominated by a 106 year old judge played by Aykroyd.
[01:01:22] Unknown:
What's the name of that? What's the name of the movie? Called Nothing But Trouble,
[01:01:27] Unknown:
and it is this judge that sits high upon a bench above a, basically, a scrapyard where where people are they're brought in by, Dan, by John Candy who who plays the cop. And, they're basically killed because this is this is a, oh my god. This is judge Roy Bean and stuff on steroids. I mean, basically. Upon release, the film was largely panned by critics for its humor, screenplay, tone, and direction, and was also a box office bomb. Critics compared the film's tone to that of movies such as Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Psycho, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and the Rocky Horror Picture Show in the Monsters. Godzilla.
Ackroyd received the worst supporting actor, Razzle, at the twelfth Golden Raspberry Awards. But I think the reason I mean, the movie is pretty good. It's kinda funny. I mean, it's stupid humor, but I think the reason that they demonized it to the extent that they did was because it actually tells the very real story that the only law that exists in a small town is the law of the small town. Don't expect to get any justice. Don't Don't Don't Don't Don't expect a fair shake.
[01:03:03] Unknown:
Is somebody trying to talk over you there? Okay. Now give the movie one more time. This might be required homework. What's the what's the title of the movie again? Hey. It's so old. I'll bet you can get it on YouTube free movies. It's called Nothing But Trouble from 1991,
[01:03:19] Unknown:
and it stars talking about one of my ex wives. Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, and Demi Moore. A great movie.
[01:03:29] Unknown:
Yep. Okay. And it There you go. Tells exactly what we deal with with the local thieves. Nothing? Exactly. Nothing but troubles. Well, what Brian was, and he had as he said, lawyer up and go find this guy, which you're lucky to find a bulldog like that. And he you beat him on a technicality. And what when Brian was telling me this the other day, and I said, well, that's where most of our Patriot victories come from technicalities, and the Patriot community as a whole doesn't understand this stuff enough, and they just go, well, we gotta win. Well, it was a win on technicality. It wasn't a win on law. I mean, it was a win. I agree with that. But, short you know, it's just not the, well, the long lasting satisfactory win of beating him on law and having him admit it.
K? Right. But, anyway, it's a victory and it took a lot. Brian was, well, he had a little weight on his shoulders about this, and it relieved him of a lot of weight off his shoulders so that if nothing else than your perspective in life is, is worth the price of admission. Right, Brian?
[01:04:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I would agree. The there's couple of things that I think are really important to get across because it's not only the technicalities, which nine times out of 10 are enough to get rid of any ticket if it's done delicately because they just make mistakes. There's process. Yeah. There's just tons of mistakes whether the the process is wrong. The time they they just little things, little things that happen. Yeah. But most importantly Well was, like, questions
[01:05:05] Unknown:
from the get Roger, can you hear me hear me? Yeah. I can hear you. We got this little delay, and I'm wanting to add something that it's technicalities like, well, the cop that was subpoenaed to come testify against me that wrote me the ticket didn't show up.
[01:05:20] Unknown:
Okay. That's
[01:05:22] Unknown:
a great example. Is that minor or major? Well, that's pretty damn major, but it's a technicality. And that one is, I guess, you could say it is on law because them having to be confronted with your accuser is law, and he's not he or she isn't there. So you got nobody to accuse you. So, see you later. We're cutting you loose.
[01:05:44] Unknown:
Right. That and most of the time, they'll lie. The one of the biggest traps with that little thing is if you do not appear, which I didn't appear for one of them. I was told basically that the county court did not handle a city court tickets. So there there are a bunch of little loophole things that, you know, would have probably gotten it dismissed. But on the law side of it, I do think there was actually more heavily weighted to the law because once they got me back into the court and I, contested the judge openly and on the record, I contested the the jurisdiction. I've mentioned that extreme due process violations had taken place.
I mentioned that the court did not have jurisdiction. And most importantly, because there's no corpus of the electa, there's no injured party. There's no injured party mentioned in the citation. There's none of that. Therefore, it's not a crime, period. The end. There is no well, we're gonna do this, that, the other. Go right ahead. But, on any appeal, that would get thrown out. That was one of the main things, but I think the real teeth of the matter was that I went downstairs while they tried to get me out of the courtroom. I went and put four affidavits into the court record clearly defining who I am, what I'm not, my proper name, the issue with the all caps, basically birth record, etcetera.
Call it a birth bond, whatever. Who I don't You can get all sideways on that conversation, but there's definitely a a basically a transaction, a a business transaction that is taking place. Even the judge walked in and before any of this happened, he was, you know, they say, all rise. The judge is coming into the courtroom or something, whatever. Well, he walks in and very arrogantly basically smirks and says, alright. I'm here ready to do some business today. Well, he just admitted that it's a business transaction. Sure did. And he said that right off the get go on top of physically threatening me, refused to tell me the prosecutor's name, which is another sheer serious violation, refused to identify who the prosecutor was. Record. Screamed at me, Tony. Record. Well That's gotta be public record of the prosecutor.
Exact it it has to be. It has to be, but they just hide behind oh, that's the district attorney. They refused to tell me his name. He just said that's the DA. Well, I have to have his name because under due process, I have to be able to serve him with notice and other things. But the key is I put affidavits in the record that they did not want to have, discussed or or openly brought what they have to once they're them recognized.
[01:08:19] Unknown:
If they talk about it, they recognized them.
[01:08:22] Unknown:
The then they recognized it, and that's what was gonna happen at the hearing. Well, I've had the attorney out because in the fine print of the whole matter, they're basically you know, they were gonna try to put additional charges on me, which could have put me in, you know, behind bars for, about a year. And so that was extremely stressful, and I basically just Now had to I lawyered up to do just that to protect me when I went back in so that they wouldn't railroad me. And It wasn't about a once you presented that.
[01:08:54] Unknown:
Yep. It wasn't about a ticket necessarily. Wasn't there some driver's license issues that were behind that?
[01:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. The the basically, the driver's license, I haven't had a driver's license for years and honestly didn't plan on getting it, but I do now have a driver's license, and I'm not ever gonna let that thing go. It's not worth it. But, you know, there are ways to work around this where, you know, that can be more delicately done. I probably should have handled it a little bit better. But in all honesty, I've been at this for fifteen years and, you know, just emotionally done with it. And if there's one thing I can try to help at this point is just be an advocate for how you go about the process because I've done it. I've been involved in it, and I've probably seen it to a deeper degree than most people, understand, but there are specific things that once are you once are brought into the court record, it's a hot potato, and they do not want that on the record because there's the liability.
And if they address them, then there's definitely liability. So what they try to do, they try to then create a diversion or somehow try to get it. But thank goodness my attorney did a good job. And once they realized that I had gotten my license, then they hot potatoed it and just dismissed the entire thing. They didn't charge me with anything. They dismissed the entire case without court fees and basically hope that, you know, I'll go away and never come back. So,
[01:10:23] Unknown:
So let me ask you. What was the court It worked out with. The fee what was the fee if you would have just paid it? What would it have been opposed to you hiring, well, you told me a couple of grand for, for the mouthpiece and the other things involved. So would the fine have been over too, Brian?
[01:10:43] Unknown:
It could have been. The fine is this is where you get into the gray area, which is really shady. So when the court when the county writes you a ticket, specifically, this was for driving on a suspended driver's license, driving on an invalid license. So too much details there. I've had a few of them over the years, but they were multistate jurisdictions. So I had to clean up basically a spider web to get my Texas driver's license just back to the status of it not being revoked where then I could go get my license here. So I did all that. I cleaned it up, you know, really nice and clean. But my point is there's points there that, your question was what the fee would be. Well, here's the gray area, which was strange because the ticket they could have written me a ticket for, like, $350, on top of court fees. So the court fees is basically this gray area that then the the clerk can basically decide what they wanna charge you. They coulda charged me up to $3,000 up to $3,000 court cost, but they they didn't. I I assumed that they were going to because they were really pissed once I challenged the judge. And he he became infuriated to the How dare you? No. He isn't How dare you challenge him? Infuriated to the point his face, like, swelled up like a red
[01:12:02] Unknown:
Did you tell me his hands were shaking?
[01:12:05] Unknown:
His hands were shaking. His hands were shaking by the time because he knew that I knew what they were up to, and, basically, the emperor had no clothing at that point. Well, you'd know. You fit the profile of a terrorist at that point. A 100%. In their book, is a is a defiant surf slave that somehow got out of the box, and now they had to basically play the, oh, I don't know what you're talking about game. I don't know. The judge even said this when I said, I demand that you bring the bond so that I can personally view it and sign it and rescind it because I'm the beneficiary of the trust, and you can't do this without my consent. Well, he flipped out right at that point and basically said, oh, hell no. You're not bringing that crap into this courtroom.
And and then quickly, very quickly, she got me out of the courtroom so that, you know, it didn't disturb the reg all the other stuff that was going on. Oh, yeah. Well, when I went out into the whole into the waiting waiting room, it then became obvious, Roger. It was kinda like the one in Austin that I did years ago where they then, you know, changed the venue and reseated everything and started over as if the accusation was never made. And I think that's what they tried to do. But thank goodness, I had walked downstairs and went and put these affidavits in the record and had them stamped Yeah. Time stamped everything, embossed. And, the clerk read them and she goes, her exact words. She was sitting there reading them, and she was like, what what is this? And I said, I just remain silent. And she goes she read it, turned the page over. She goes, oh, lordy.
I'm gonna have to run this upstairs. Oh, lordy. Basically, she she read it, and it had, it was notice of fraud that they couldn't move forward. They didn't have jurisdiction that the prosecutor here's what they do. And this is, I think, what I've learned is the judge protects all parties of the fraud. So there's a there's a a scam going on. It's a white collar criminal felony scam that takes place in every court proceedings and specifically talking about traffic tickets. Other things different, but this is just on the traffic issue, which is definitely the main sticky point in all this status and everything else. Well, what the judge does, and I've seen it now in multiple personal experience, the judge protects all the parties, specifically the clerk and the prosecutor.
That's normally at when you go into the hearing, the the prosecutor's never even present, which is that should be get thrown out right there, but nobody challenges it. The prosecutor literally waits outside and waits for you to accept a, and verbally get into a plea agreement. So the judge says, calls your name out and says, you are you're charged with driving on a suspended driver's license. Do you wanna go talk to the state? Well, that's an offer to a plea deal. So by doing that, you you admit some type of guilt, and then you go do a quick plea deal, which is the easiest way to for them to just do a quick transaction, get the money, and move on to the next case. What they do wrong and where this is technically wrong, if it is ever challenged is, one, the prosecutor is not present, The one the one bringing the charge, neither is the accuser, neither is in the in the initial, citation or affidavit.
There's no mention of an injured victim or any monetary damages. It's always just Brian Howard was viewed driving on an invalid, driver's license, and that's the chart. It'll have a a code, right, you know, statute code, but there's never any mention of the real element of the jurisdiction, and that's a that's a crime, an injured man or woman and monetary damages. And that's that's where you get them because it's never there. They're never gonna put it in there because there is no crime. There's no there's never an injured party. The state can't be injured. I didn't physically injure or damage or do anything to this corporation called the state, nor could they ever prove it. And once I openly challenged that and told them right you know, basically, verbally to his face, And I said, your honor, you you know and I both know that on a on an appeal, this case would be dismissed immediately because there is no injured party, and and this prosecutor could never ever produce an injured party. We all know that. And he just immediately shut it down and then screamed at me to get out of the courtroom. And that was the end of the one. So
[01:16:39] Unknown:
Oh, I have someone in my yep. Go ahead. I think that's is that Joe? Or no. It's Tom. Hey, Tom. Tom. How's it going?
[01:16:48] Unknown:
Alright. Hey, Ed. Brian, this is on the line to where you guys are discussed. What's that?
[01:16:54] Unknown:
I said, Brian, this is Tom. He's the guy that was tapped with the overseeing RBN after Stap Miller died. Go ahead.
[01:17:04] Unknown:
Hello, Tom. So I got a ticket. Hey. How are you? That's a great that's some great information that you're handing out. That's really good. I got a ticket once long time ago for, not wearing a seat belt. Alright? So when I got into the court, the judge, told me she just, you know, you've been for, got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. You know? How do you plead? I said, well, what the shit's wrong with you people? Crazy drivers out here. Sorry. So I said, well, I said, I when I wear a seat belt, it distracts me from driving. It it actually interferes with my drive, makes me distracted. Well, you know, you're gonna, you know, you get an injury and all that, and, you know, you're gonna get, go through a windshield or something like that. I said, well, that's why I have insurance. I I was trying to direct him into that conversation, and he and he says, you you know, it's gonna cost you. I said, well, that's why I have insurance. Well, yeah, but you're gonna cost money and, you know, everybody's rates are gonna I said, so so the purpose of this isn't my safety. The purpose of this of the seatbelts is to protect the profits of the insurance company. Is that what you're telling me? Well, yeah. Well, just just wear your seat belt and then, dismissed. There you go. That's so good. They the the the whole room went just like went, oh. And I don't know how many other people use that after me, but,
[01:18:24] Unknown:
you know It's a good it's a point. That's a good point you bring up, and that it's exactly what my overall, learning lesson, I guess, is in all this. It's at the end of the day, they are conducting a business. It has nothing to do with the law. It's a private ad ministerial court, and all they're doing is Raising, raising protecting. That's all it is. Yeah. That's why the Department of Transportation in Tennessee is managed by the Department of Revenue.
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I'm I'm can I just bring in one point here? The only reason all of y'all know this stuff is because I was wearing a seat belt in 2010 in Argentina when I caused that accident because I would not have lived through it otherwise. Just throwing that in there. K? And I've learned
[01:19:13] Unknown:
to wear a seat belt now. K? Because it saved my life. I'm on Can I throw in something real quick? No. I got I got just the opposite for you, Roger, because I was in an accident once where I tried to avoid hitting the dog. And it Yeah. And if I had the seat belt on, the steering wheel would've would've, probably killed me because I hit through that corner and just push the whole dash right into the truck. Yeah. I know. I know. It wasn't the point so much that. It was just that, you know, what I said to the judge. And, and if anybody has lived ever lived in Philadelphia, in the city of Philadelphia, they they know of the Philadelphia parking authority.
And it used to be that they could write you a ticket, for parking, and, you know, you didn't really have a whole lot of recourse. So I got some I got a ticket one day for doing something, you know, to help somebody. And I went and dug dug in the statutes, and I found out that all their tickets were supposed to be sworn. So they, so they wrote me a ticket. I went down. I found out that they weren't sworn. I got a copy of it the day before the trial. The next day, I called up and said I'm sick. I can't make it. Okay. You're gonna have to you know, we're gonna find you guilty, and you have to come in and, you know, and appeal it. So I did all that the day before the appeal. I went and got another copy of it. The thing's still not sworn. Went into the office with the guy. He turns on the tape recorder. I brought my attorney friend with me, and we made a little side bet that if I could beat him, that he'd buy me lunch. And if I lost, I'd buy him lunch. And my son was sitting in the audience.
He we go into this guy's office. He turns on the tape recorder, says date and time and all the people. He says, what can I do for you? I said, I'd like to have verified copies of these complaints. And he turns the recorder off. He goes, you want what? I said, I want verified copies of these complaints. I'll be right back. And he left the room, and he went out. And he was gone, like, good five minutes or more. And he comes back in, and he says, oh, the, microfiche is down, dismissed. So my lawyer and I are looking at each other like, what? So we go out and my son we pick up my son, and he goes, what the hell happened in there? He says I said, what? He says, I thought they're gonna arrest you. I said, what are you talking about? He's just he was out there talking to the to the guard or the cop who's a you know, he's a like a cop, a local cop. And I said, they're gonna arrest you or something. I said, oh, no. The guy was going to get a copy of the tickets. I said, you mean he didn't go behind the back of room? He just stood there and talked to the cop? I said I he says, yeah. Yeah. I went, holy mac or so. We figured it out that they knew that they couldn't, you know, they couldn't provide the correct ticket with a sworn, you know, the officer's signature on under oath, and they just dismissed it. But then they changed then they changed the statutes there that says that they could they could do unsworn declarations.
So but, you gotta read their rules and and fight them with their own rules sometimes. So, anyway,
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that's my story. Thank you. Okay. And you're sticking to it. Yeah.
[01:22:11] Unknown:
Oh Okay. Yeah. You know, Paul was talking about that movie Paul was talking about that movie Nothing But Trouble, but he missed the most important part was that the that the problem was when Chevy Chase got up in front of the judge, and and he says he's looking at his ID, and he goes, oh, banker. I go, no. I'm a financial publisher. Okay. Banker. And his uncle his grandfather got shamboozled by bankers, that turned the whole town into a a burning oil pit. And that was his that was, what he hated was anybody that had anything to do with the banks. So I think that was kind of a little hidden, innuendo there in the movie,
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but it was great to watch
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it. I I I agree with you. I got a room, guys. I'm gonna go get blood work. Okay. Thank you, Tom. Good luck on your blood work. Hold on, Brian. I think Dave from the thumb is gonna try to get you a hold of a minute. There you go. Thank you, Tom. Dave.
[01:23:08] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Hey, Brian. Great great information. And what you said about the DOT and the Department of Revenue, absolutely. The definition of traffic is commerce.
[01:23:22] Unknown:
Correct. Yeah. The federal definition and that at at some point, we would have gotten into all the little nuances, and I was prepared to do that. But I think most importantly, upfront, you, you don't stand a chance unless you put affidavits into the court record. You're not ever gonna go in and argue a point. It has to be in writing via affidavit under penalty of perjury and clearly defining, what you are, what you're not, and what they've done wrong. You know, you have to put them the onus on them. So, basically, in any contesting of jurisdiction, and I as I mentioned, what I've think well, I I I know now from personally witnessing it is it's, basically, it's a conspiracy that takes place. The judge, the clerk, and the prosecutor are all three involved in what is a felony, a felony, basically, financial transaction.
And all it takes is just someone to go contest it. Maybe I'm that guy. I don't know. But something's gonna come out of it eventually because, what eventually originally happened when I met Roger and told him why I decided to contest the tickets was originally I walked in in Texas on a hot summer day into a DMV office to go pay a ticket that I had agreed to pay, and I was making payments on it. And it was basically set up so that when I would make the payment, it would stall the payment, and I'd get fees put on it. And I was like, this is crazy. I'm paying the ticket, and it just seems like it's never going away. And I went in to try to clear it up, and and that's when I saw about 50 brown skinned people with their heads down, and they were paying the man. And I said, this is a damn racket. Now you remember that, Robert?
[01:25:09] Unknown:
Well Yeah.
[01:25:12] Unknown:
The kind of the same thing is what I'm trying to get across is that the point of going in and challenging the judge and all that, it's never gonna work. The only thing that has some teeth are basically when you enter things into the court record because that's when they, one, they either have to address them or they have to hide and and create a diversion. Only two things can happen. If they don't address those and, you know, later let's say later on, I basically got convicted or something happened. Well, you can go back and contest a a a charge at any time over jurisdiction. Right? And they never approve it. Well, my point is the judge is always going to protect the other co coconspirators in a fraud. Right? Bank robber a, b, and c are gonna protect you know, member c is gonna protect a and b is what I'm getting across. And they do that by never having the prosecutor in the courtroom at the beginning so that you'll hopefully just plea out of it and they do a quick transaction.
Or two, that the the accuser is never there. And most importantly, the the elements of any crime, this is constitutional law. It's the US Supreme Court. It matters not what case you're in, whether you're in a, whatever crime that they're accusing you of, there has to be a corpus delecti, an injured man or woman, not a corporation, and damages, physical, basically, monetary damage has to be established. And that's what they will always try to hide. And that's Right. The one thing I stood on on top of, accusing them of basically trying to defraud my bond and use my all caps name, which is not me. It was registered in the state of Arizona four days after I physically was born. It's you're not you don't have a birth date. The birth date is the the creation of the of the instrument.
Your born on date is when you physically came out of your mother. Right? Physically out of flesh. They take that, they create that birth record, that bond, and then they register it, which is the actual real creation date is its registration date. Just like when you title a vehicle, when you go title, anything, it's basically when you go and create that agreement, which is nothing more than a trust agreement. There's three parties to a trust. So that's my point. There's a lot more details there, but I don't wanna bore you in. Well, what you know don't I my point is this, Roger, real quick is all this, I'm glad that I did it. I have zero regrets, but I also too, understand the value of time now a little bit better. And literally over a $150 ticket initial ticket, I created, you know, years of really just unnecessary trouble. Maybe I do believe that it was on there was absolutely a reason. I had to figure things out because I I know now how to handle all types of other, you know, run ins with these, basically, you know, corrupt corporations is all it is. All it is is contract law, people. That's all this is. There's no Well, it's Babylonian merchant. Contract. But it's Babylon barb Babylonian merchant code. It's all based on contract. It was Babylon's
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great contribution
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to the world
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was they reduced everything in the society down to the abstract form of contract. And here, in this forum, sometimes it's a lot more abstract than you think, like a silent generational contract in the feudal system that goes on un unbeknownst unbeknownst to you that you agree with every time they ask you. You're a citizen of The United States? You're a resident? Yes. Yes. Sign something. Now they got your consent. Okay? Normally, Brian, we've tried to get away from. Hold on a Could you, Julie, please? Brian, we've tried to keep traffic crap off the show because it's all these jurisdictions. They might have different rules. They got different personnel.
It's always some horror story. There's a bunch of details. The audience can't follow it all. It's complicated. And just try not to do that anymore. But it's you, and I I I wanted you to go over that today. And, I'm a chance to have a chance to meet you girls. Could you wait and let me finish, please? And, and and so that's why we went into this. My advice to everybody is you're wanting to be a national. You're wanting to be free. Well, that includes self personal responsibility. You're not in group and responsibility anymore. You're in personal responsibility.
And you ought to take that very seriously even more so now when you've gone through this process than before. And, if you screw up, belly up to the buy damn bar and pay the fine. This national ain't a get out of jail free card on everything, folks. Sometimes you do something stupid and but drive consciously under the speed limit and be, be responsible. K? Don't go out there being wrecked. I'm a Nash. I'm a go get in a wreck and test this thing. Don't do that, please. Okay? Julie, you are This is one of our newer students here, Brian. Julie, what do you got for Brian, Julie?
[01:30:34] Unknown:
I think that was Julie, wasn't it? I I it wasn't me. It wasn't me. So I think it was Myrka.
[01:30:41] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Well, I heard Myrca, but I thought there was somebody before her, and I thought it was you. Okay. Myrca?
[01:30:48] Unknown:
I have, like, a few questions for Ryan. Good morning. Just wanted to say wanted to ask, do do you own your vehicle? When this happened, was your vehicle yours?
[01:31:05] Unknown:
Yes and no. That's actually one of the that's a brilliant question because that's really the underlying contract. So, two parts to that. I was driving an old Jeep of mine that I own, but I had originally financed it and it was done normally through the state of Texas. So it was bought at a dealership. It was titled and registered at the point of sale, which is how they handle it. And then years later, I had paid the Jeep off and, had requested, the original bill of sale from the dealership. They refused to give me a bill of sale because they knew what I was after. And I expressed that the MSO was the true basically the true chain of title. So I recently bought another automobile, and I paid cash for it. And that's the only way to ever get the MSO. They went sideways.
I'm not gonna give all the details, but I basically, you know, had, things prepared where I could buy the buy the automobile, let's say, here in the state and take it to Texas to pay lower taxes if I was going if I was going to do that. Long story short Right. I had the dealership assign the MSO to me, so I technically was the owner of one of them, during this process. But the the actual, automobile or I will say vehicle because it still has Texas plates on it, and it still showed up when the cop ran, you know, my license, basically plate numbers. He came back with my driver's license. So that's how they attach it. So I've I've looked at both ways. I'm, 100% advising, do not go put, private plates on a car or anything. If you if you really if you really wanna, play whack a mole, that's what you're gonna do. But you will you may get away with it once or twice. You may do this or that. But at the end of the day, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. You're putting your life in danger, and you may you may beat it, but you also may get shot dead on the street. Yep. Let me have Marco, hold on. Hold hold on. Hold on a minute, please. Yeah.
[01:33:16] Unknown:
Well, I forgot what I was gonna ask. I think you and I discussed Joe Lusticka's DOT thing with our conversation the other night. Did we not?
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Yes. A little bit, I think.
[01:33:31] Unknown:
Well, he that is, I would think, for people like you that was this a new car did you pay for a new car new, or is this a used car that you got somehow?
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The Jeep the Jeep that I got pulled over in the ticket was my old Jeep. No. No. No. No.
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The one you paid cash for. Yes.
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There's a new one that's been bought, and I basically got the MSO and have a copy of it. So that's Good for you. If I wanna put it into the trust. Absolutely. Well, it's a you gotta basically pay cash for it. It's not, you know, it's just not an easy way to do it. I I understand. That's why I was asking that you sent me out there with I still went and registered. I still went and registered it because I'm at the point that, look, it's just not worth it. You know, it's you can do all this, but they can also, to escalate something once you've had a certain number of tickets in their code, they can basically call you a habitual,
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renegade or an outlaw. Stop drive us. Well, be responsible. Stop driving crazy. Okay? But Joe Lustig's situation
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very carefully.
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Okay. Well, Joe Lustig's process seems to be fit perfectly for someone like yourself, And he's got it on Rumble. You can go over there to his channel and go through it. He shows you step by step. He does it a little bit different for himself there than you probably would. He has it set up in a foreign trust or something. But, regardless, you go and go through the DOT site, and they'll issue you a number. Now what we found out lately, or at least I have, due to conversations on the show, is the number's for you. And then you can go get, a display somehow or get a license tag made with it, and there's your I'm not in commerce, and the vehicle isn't either.
So, anyway, just to throw that out. Percent. I'm not I'm not dis,
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I'm not disagreeing with that. You can do that Right. A 100%. You can get a a, through the Department of Transportation.
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You can get it basically exempt, and there is a way to do that. Yes. I'm just at at the point that it's cost me enough time and money and You wanted to Obviously, I've got joints and other things that I just can't do it for that. No. I understand, Tony. Yeah. And also to default. I'm just saying for a for other people that are are well, let me see if I can put it this way, dumb Brian. For other people who are as full of piss and vinegar and testosterone as you were fifteen years ago, that may be something they want to do. Okay. But you now matured a little bit.
Well, that's the predicament I'm in. I can't stop you from doing it. We'll help you every way we can. But sometimes the prudent way is, you know, the old an old patriot told me something years ago in Atlanta. He said, don't fight battles you don't know you can't win. You know you can't win or you don't know you can't win. Go go for the battles you know you can win. What's one? Filing an affidavit with the secretary of state and getting a passport. We know that battle and that is the battle is all automatic. Yeah. There ain't no question whether you won or not. Now before Merck, I turn it back over to Merck. I've been wanting to ask you this for a couple of minutes.
If you are familiar with the work of one of your fellow Texans named Eddie Craig out there.
[01:36:51] Unknown:
I know Eddie Craig. He's a good guy. Okay.
[01:36:54] Unknown:
Okay. He seems to be on his videos. He doesn't he doesn't think our stuff's worth the crap, but be so be it. One of his things when I looked at one of his videos was that all of the and he used to be a state trooper, I believe, Texas state trooper or something. But one of the things is all the signs and everything are for commerce. All the speed signs and all the all that's for commerce for trucks and doesn't apply to you. Now that's his statement. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. Makes sense to me, but I was just wondering if you were familiar with that. Me or you? There? Who? Yeah. No. You. You. No. No. I'm not asking Merca. I'm asking Yes.
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Well, remember, Eddie Craig is I like Eddie. I've known him a long time back when, Roger when I woke up. Remember before I moved to, Idaho Idaho. Yeah. There was a great little bookstore in Austin, man. They rent they went out of business, but it was a Brave New World, Brave New
[01:37:58] Unknown:
Brave New World Books or Brave New Books or something. It was in the basement. Because Austin. It was in because Austin is because Austin has already moved into the Brave New World, so they shuck the bookstore. Well,
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it was. Well, it was like this it was a great place because it was people of like minded that were all
[01:38:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sorry. I just got a chuckle out of that.
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It was great, though. It was one of the best places I've ever been for open minded people, but Eddie Craig was doing a traffic seminar class every Sunday from, like, noon to, like, 03:00. Well, I was there for a a month or two every Sunday, taking notes and learning. That's where I started to get exposure to what the law is really saying. Then it's like, oh, okay. Well, then I'm not doing anything wrong. They're basically committing fraud. But Eddie Eddie Craig is a good guy. I've I've lost contact with him literally over the years, but my point is this. If you're ever gonna go in and argue those elements, then you're kind of already behind the eight ball because Yep. and foremost is there ain't no injured party. So what the hell are we doing here talking about what?
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Well, it's Serious. It's it's
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Challenge the it's challenge the corpus delacti.
[01:39:16] Unknown:
I don't I didn't see you with the deer, but I caught you hunting on the king's land.
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Right. So if you're gonna go in and argue a bunch of elements of traffic citations, signs, I wasn't going that fast. I was only going this fast. Well, it's already over. But Please. Just try to of the entire thing is, and foremost, it's I'm a national. I'm not a US citizen. I declared this on the open record. I'm not a US citizen. I don't live in the country. I even said that, and the judge looked at me like, who the hell is this guy? I don't live in Washington, DC. Washington, DC is a is a corporation, basically, a Yeah. A basically a nation state that has no boundaries and doesn't have any of the rules that the other 50 states have.
And I'm not a resident. Just like I'm not a resident. Oh, that's in the affidavits. You don't have.
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The laws of Washington, DC don't don't apply to you. So I'm just throwing that in there, Brian. Correct.
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Okay. Let me I don't wanna line in all the affidavits or I'm not a US citizen.
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Or per The U The Roger, this is from the original affidavit that I did appointee the For for the audience, what Brian's doing is he's taking a negative approach. I'm not this. Instead of saying I am this, both of them are alright. I'm just making a point because I've made it on the show before. You can approach it from I'm not this, a negative approach. And one of the reasons for doing that is because it's almost impossible to disprove a negative. K? So bar or you can make a definitive statement. I'm a national. Either way. K?
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Very statement in the affidavit is Yeah. Go ahead.
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America, listen, I know you got,
[01:41:04] Unknown:
several questions. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry to No. No. Brian's been trying to read the sentence of his affidavit for five minutes. Let's let him get that out, and then we can go ahead. Well, I I thought he did. Go ahead, Brian.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Okay. And it just it's basically playing on confirming what you're teaching, Rogers. The end result here is, and foremost, all the drivers, tickets, all these other little jam ups, they're secondary. Yep. The most important thing is is who you are and who you are not. And that's the line of all the affidavits is per the US state department, I am not a citizen or a or or and or a resident of any state. Yep. There. It's clearly defined in an affidavit. That prosecutor then has to, somewhere down the line, has to contest what is in that affidavit. If they don't, then they hid evidence. They didn't discuss it, and that thing will get thrown out. But, hey. Long story short, pay the tickets, get your driver's license, and go about Yeah.
[01:42:11] Unknown:
All all of these intricacies is why I try and instruct you, Brian of Greek. Stay out of that venue. Go pay. Drive responsibly. If you screw up, pay the damn fine and go on about your life.
[01:42:26] Unknown:
For Brian, so I'm assuming that you're not you weren't in Commerce. Right? So, I was wondering if you used your passport to identify yourself.
[01:42:39] Unknown:
Good question. Yes. I did use my passport when I got originally pulled over. I I never carry a driver's license on me, and it was old and expired anyways. But the original Texas driver's license was in a, invalid, revoked state because I had gotten a ticket out of state, and they all their systems talk to each other. So they'll try to that state wants to clean out their books. So to answer your question, I presented a US passport that was evidence in the ticket. Somewhere in one of the tickets, it basically said that I produced a, a US passport.
So, technically
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They should have left the phone with Yeah. Well yeah. But that that guy on the street doesn't, you know, know what Well, he just knows what he's getting off his shift today. You can't say that because it varies place to place whether they've got access to that database or not to run that thing. K? So that's why traffic is such a bitch as you can't overall say it's the same time thing and and result in every jurisdiction. Now we had one of these discussions the other day, and someone volunteered this. The cops said, why did you give me the passport? And the one of the things that came out of that discussion was you could have said, well, I gave you the passport.
I have a driver's license, but I gave you the passport because I'm not in commerce.
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Right.
[01:44:10] Unknown:
Now that's a good answer. No. That was Thursday, Brian, if you wanna listen to me. Last week. It came up last week. Anyway, good thing. Okay, Mirka. What's your next question?
[01:44:20] Unknown:
Another thing I wanted to point out to, Brian is that if you own the one the two vehicles, one that you did your loan on, you paid it off. Right? Did they give you your, title right away and, release of lien that you were the legal owner?
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On the old Jeep, yes. Once I paid it off, just like any normal process, they send you the certificate of title. That's right. It's just a certificate. It's an image of that of that, basically, bond that they create once they receive the MSO. So as you know, the MSO is the actual real chain of title. It was, one was given to me. But for example purposes in this, no. The white Jeep, I paid it off. They gave me a certificate of title, and they released a lien from my bank or the credit union I'd I'd done business with for a long time. And, so all that was fine. But, you know, long story short, the state still owns that, property. So here's just a a a a little deeper, information grab on that.
Where they get you in commerce and all of that is simply because you are operating a piece of property that the state claims that they have ownership to, and they do. The only way to get the only way to get around that is to get the MSO, to go put it in a trust and have layers upon layers Yeah. Upon things to protect it. There's It's complicated. Does everybody gotta do it? Probably not.
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There's a way to get around that. Buy a used car and get a bill of sale. The bill of sale would act as the MSO.
[01:46:11] Unknown:
I have an example for, Brian. You know, you can put you know, that your cars are paid off, you can put them on an affidavit of fact and put your the VIN number, you know, when they're you know, whatever date that you paid it or, bought them and it was released. The you know, I'm talking about the two cars and put that you're the legal lawful owner of your autos. And now they have no authority over your property or yourself. I sent an affidavit to the DMV, and they were, trying to threaten me with the registration. And I, you know, told them I was not, you know, I sent I didn't talk directly to the DMV department. I talked directly to the director and the attorney general and secretary of state of DC to put it on the record that I am I am not in commerce. I am, driving in the private in my private, you know, personal capacity.
And these are this this these two VIN numbers are my property, and they have no authority. The state of the DMV law enforcement have no authority or authorization to use my, you know, expired license or, my VIN numbers for any citation. So, you know, I just put it on an affidavit of fact, and I send it out to them. They at before giving them that affidavit of fact and lawful legal notice, they were sending me, threatening, notices that they were gonna get my car towed and that the Mhmm. Officer can pull you over and tow your car or whatever. As soon as I sent distortion. As soon as I sent that affidavit and lawful legal notice to those to those agencies, specifically, secretary of state of DC because it's you know, I want it on the record with him, the AG and DMV director.
They stopped sending me those notices.
[01:48:33] Unknown:
Good job. But the d but hold on. Dee, you're not in DC. You're in California. Why did you why didn't you send them to California?
[01:48:41] Unknown:
I know exactly why.
[01:48:43] Unknown:
I I sent it I sent it to also, two other people, state of state of secretary the secretary of state of the state of California and the state of California controller. What's crazy there is that I think, each state may have something similar, is that they have a little section on on their website for the state controller where it says that they, they take care of property unclaimed property, until someone claims it. So I sent the affidavit to them too.
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I know I know exactly what you say.
[01:49:26] Unknown:
That's it. They they do that because, technically, they are the trustee of the trust, and all property was assigned to the US corp because of the bankrupt. And that's basically they're they're assuming they're under the assumption until you stand up and say, I'm this and I'm not that, then you broke the assumption because they're technically the you're technically a ward of the state until you go reclaim your status, and that's exactly what Rogers taught is to stand up and say, I am this and not that. I'm a national. Yeah. That's very true. The amendment served that Okay. Was created when four and a half black men were brought into the union and given a new secondary status to be basically
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privileges. So that's the whole gist of what Roger's taught. Very, very good point. Well, and I Yeah. But I've never taught to on this auto stuff to do something like notice DC. That's why I was asking the question. Obviously, it worked. Right, Erica? Well, yeah. Paul Paul's got an observation too, but
[01:50:29] Unknown:
Go ahead. I know exactly why it worked. Let's see. Alright. Hold on. Paul's gonna inform us. Finish. Well Let me can I please finish, sharing what I was sharing with you today? One second, Mirka. I think it's time to to recognize your brilliance because what you did by claiming ownership of those VINs and by claiming that you were outside their system and notifying DC through the secretary of state's office, you notified them that the state of California was perpetrating a fraud and that you were specifically opting out of it. It's brilliance.
[01:51:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've never taught that before, so that's why I wanted to comment on it, Myrka. Go ahead.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Yeah. The the reason I did that was because remember, Roger, and I always say this, we once we we become a national private individual national, we are no longer under their authority. So what I did and- and I thought, you know, I'm like, oh my God, they're gonna hate this, but I don't care. They need to know and be reminded that they have- no longer have authority over me or my property. And that's what I told them. Like, I am not gonna be participating in commerce. I am in my private, personal capacity, traveling, and, and I did include a fee schedule.
I did tell them, like, you know, once if if, you know, someone in any affiliated, agency or department that is working with DMV or law enforcement is, is trespasses, you know, decides to trespass on me, this this fee schedule is activated. Okay. So I told them, like, you have no authority Oh. The state of or all the, all the other people that I mentioned in there. All the department's agencies.
[01:52:23] Unknown:
What what do you use as a tag on? You have a tag on the automobile?
[01:52:29] Unknown:
I don't have anything on there right now. I have the old plates, without the sticker. I'm gonna remove those soon, but I'm just driving around. So there's, like, they don't have an excuse to try to Have you pull you over and say, you know, hey. You don't have a license plate kinda thing. Right. I'm working on that. But the state yeah. The state of the state of the secretary of state of DC is important to make sure that you do include him in all your notices because he has to see or they have to see what's going on and it's on the record. And it's proof to them that they are not, recognizing your status. And and if needed, you can probably try to request one of those, 15 o two tickets. But Yeah. But I really don't wanna do that either. So I really I really don't want The United States involved at all except for the part to making sure that they know that they have no authority.
[01:53:34] Unknown:
One more time. Well, they still do have a little authority over you on those two sections of the internal revenue code, so you can't say none, but it's very slim. Okay. Yeah. Paul, were you gonna say something? I wanna But that's not part of The United States, though, is it, Roger?
[01:53:48] Unknown:
Wow. The IRS?
[01:53:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they are to the extent that that those are constitutional taxes. K?
[01:53:59] Unknown:
They they also recognize my affidavit. They sent me a letter telling me Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They no. They sent me a a correspondence, confirming that they got the affidavit of citizenship.
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. I we're pretty close to the end of the program. I was wanting to open up the phone to see if anybody wanted to ask Howard, the other question, but but we're kinda slim now. Yes, Brian? Yes.
[01:54:28] Unknown:
Hey, hey, Roger.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:54:32] Unknown:
Oh, I'm a new caller. My name is Dave. I had a question. Got some time. Oh, hey, Dave. I thought you're Brian.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Oh, lord of mercy. No. Sorry about that. Well, we don't you sound similar. We, we don't have time to get into anything like that today, Dave. Are your time, we've discussed anything with you? I was just waiting for a good time to jump in there. But Yeah. We've been it's been a brisk conversation today. Where where in the country are you, Dave?
[01:55:00] Unknown:
I'm in Kansas.
[01:55:02] Unknown:
Okay. And, how'd you find us?
[01:55:07] Unknown:
Friend of mine, John, ex gentile,
[01:55:10] Unknown:
told me about you. Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright. I think I know that guy from Missouri. Right? Well, can you call back tomorrow? I mean, we're here six days a week. Saturday's a good day. I I almost abhor traffic discussions because there's not a clear cut solution on a lot of them. So we discourage people from being there. My job I I think my job is to help keep people out of those situations, but sometimes it's hard to get in there. So, so you can come back, like, tomorrow or Thursday or Saturday or something. Right? Alright. Sounds good. Will do. Alright. It was a traffic situation?
Yeah. Well, there's no quick thing in traffic. I don't think Roger. Go ahead. Give hold on, Larry. Go ahead, Dave. Please give us what you're wanting to call about. A synopsis.
[01:56:04] Unknown:
Oh, long story short, I've I'm getting ready to do the revoke my election process, and I own a small business, out of my house. And I was just wondering if there's any other thing any else I and if what's gonna stop the IRS from coming and wanting money from me that I'm a business owner?
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Well, depends on there's a lot of questions here. What what what what status is your business in? Is this a subchapter s? Have you elected to be taxed as a corporation? All those things. We've got he's not with us today. We've got a paralegal that comes around a couple of days a week named Mark from Oklahoma. He's been a paralegal for over twenty five years, and, he's giving trust classes and helping people write their own trust right now. And that may be something you might wanna look into. Okay? Yeah. If you want me in business here Okay. Well, that's alright. That's alright. Out of my house. Well, I yep. Well, that's alright. You wanna be protected where none of those things can happen. This is one of those ways to cover your assets. And, you can drop him. He'll be here he should be here tomorrow. He's usually here on Wednesdays and Saturdays, or I can give you his email address, and you can shoot him an email a day. But that's one way to approach your situation.
The other is the IRS hadn't done that in fifteen years with any of our students, so I don't expect them to start doing that now. Although there are people that are justifiably concerned about it because you don't understand all the nuances of the situation when you change status. But, that hadn't happened yet if that assures your mind at all. So Yeah. You can put it in a trust. You can learn. You can, they're sending out by the way, I got another notice, email today that somebody had received one of these CP 59 letters that are computer generated.
And, evidently, that's the latest tactic is to send you one of those. We haven't received your tax return for the year 2023, etcetera, etcetera. We talked about it a bit yesterday. That is a confirmatory writing, and I just told the guy I would respond back to him. It's not it's not important that you do it in ten days necessarily, but I would do this one particularly a little sooner than the others that have ninety days. And, just send them a copy of your original letter with your notification of of, putting them on notice about your affidavit being filed. And just resend that, and and I doubt if you'll hear from them again. But this is just another wrinkle. They're just trying to scare some people. So, anyway, Dave, come back and visit with us some more. We'll give you more info when we got more time. And today is not a good day for me to hang around. So, if you if you're able to be with us, you're a one man show. You ought to control your own time. We're here six days a week. Okay?
[01:59:10] Unknown:
Alright. I appreciate the info. Will do. Reach out to man.
[01:59:14] Unknown:
Reach out to strawman@mark,allcaps,.com. Strawman@mark,allcaps,writtenout,all1word,.com. And, just, just quickly detail, you know, what what your questions are, and that way, he'll be able to research those before the show tomorrow and could very quickly have an answer for you. Yeah. Well, he probably wouldn't have to research it. I'm gonna make one more comment on Go ahead. I'm gonna make one more comment on what Mark did By noticing the secretary of state of The United States, she allowed them to clarify that the state of California is indeed a political subdivision of the federal government.
So, he's the lord of that man or two. So notice them all.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Alright. Well, if you pretty brisk conversation. Good to hear you on the show, Brian. And, you're welcome to come back with us anytime you've got the time. But, we appreciate, you giving us your story and your success story and also your very important words of after all these years, I've learned to just pay the thing and go on about my life because there's bigger battles to fight that have bigger, bigger consequences. K? So, anyway, that's it for today. We'll be back tomorrow on Wednesday, and maybe Mark and Dave will be with us. I can alert Mark. So that's what I'll do as we got hey, Dave. Try and come back tomorrow. I'll, make sure Mark knows you're lurking there on the question. Okay?
[02:00:57] Unknown:
Was that Dave or Dan?
[02:01:00] Unknown:
I thought it was Dave. Wasn't it Dave? Was it Dave or Dan? Okay. We gotta cut off now. We're gonna leave you hanging. Roger? Yeah. Yes.
[02:01:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I have to respond to a couple of calls. Can you hear me?
[02:01:17] Unknown:
I hear you. Is it Larry or Dave, or who am I talking with? Yeah.
[02:01:22] Unknown:
It's Larry.
[02:01:24] Unknown:
Okay. That's what I thought. Yes. Yes, Larry. You wanna do what? I
[02:01:29] Unknown:
I wanna respond to a couple of things, that was said on the show that I don't think is accurate or true. thing is, when Brian got on the show, he said all he said, they are all corrupt speaking, I think, of the courts, and that is not true. Corporations are not corrupt. Individual people are. And that's because evil is only found in men's hearts. Inanimate things or thick fictitious things cannot be corrupt. And then another thing is, there are bad apple actors in every apple bushel. So, you know, that's another reason not to say all these people are corrupt like over here in this one group. Well I was taught in grammar school not to use the words always and never.
Always contains the word all because those are two extremes. So
[02:02:25] Unknown:
that's the thing. And then I I Go ahead. Larry, I think can I yeah? Can I say something? I think we all have a tendency to generalize. I'm very guilty of that by just including everything under the lump heading of Jews, and we all have our nuances in that. And we learn here, hopefully, that specificity is what's important and to try and get around the generalizations. But I agree with you. Go ahead.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
Right. But yeah. But we gotta be careful about these generalizations. We've got a lot of new students listening. Different people come in here. And when you generalize like that, I mean, you're affecting their thinking. We have to be specific. Not all politicians are bad. Not all judges are bad. You know? Not all people that are CEOs and corporations are bad. I mean, I I I enjoy eating chicken salad chick. I mean, that that's a corporation, and they're not bad. You know? So, anyway, Brent Winters teaches and believes that the state, as a sovereign, has a duty to use its police powers to enforce and prosecute traffic violations.
That's another thing. And he mentioned that, I think it was last show or the week or the show before that. If someone wants to go back and relisten. And, I wanna respond to what Tom said about not wearing a seat belt. I I don't think that's that's a good thing to do to drive down the road without a seat belt, especially, these days. And, I got a couple of statistics here. Seat belts have saved an estimated three hundred and seventy four thousand two hundred and seventy six lives from 1975 to 2017, and that source is the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's or administration.
And seat belts reduce the risk of fatal injury to front seat car occupants by forty five percent and by risk at, of moderate to critical injury by fifty percent. And as far as the costs involved, there's, in 2019, failure to wear a seat belt cost society 11,000,000,000 in preventable injury related costs.
[02:04:43] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Thank you. I get your point. I told you. You wouldn't be exposed to this information if I wouldn't add one on ten fifteen years ago one day. So, anyway, I today's Tuesday. I'm gonna go about my business here because, because it's Tuesday. And, Ryan, thanks a lot for being with us. Good to hear your voice again. And there's there's some things we've got would have disagreements on, but I didn't confront you with them, and we can talk about them another time. So, thank you, buddy, and everyone who listened today. I hope you got something out of the show, and, we will see you, bright and somewhat early tomorrow.
Come in. So unless anybody's got something for me.
[02:05:27] Unknown:
I've I have something very quick, and I think, Roger, you'll agree that I think what Tom was trying to express was the importance of knowing the laws and knowing the procedures that they're going to be throwing at you. So if they do it wrong, you can point it out. I don't think for a moment he was advocating cutting the seat belts out of your car with a pocket knife. I think he was saying, know your stuff before you get hooked up.
[02:05:56] Unknown:
Okay. I'm gonna put my pocket knife up in. This is you you're telling me. Okay.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Well, I'll have it ready and have the draw tomorrow. Alright? But you should have a pocket knife if you're in a rollover accident. Your seat belt is is not going to be able to be unbuckled. So you need a pocket knife to cut that ditch so you can get out of the car. Very accurate.
[02:06:14] Unknown:
Very accurate. A really sharp one.
[02:06:18] Unknown:
Yes. Really. This goes to show you that every little decision you make can have profound consequences, and they're all important. See you tomorrow, kiddos. Love you. Ciao.
[02:06:30] Unknown:
We are where we are because of decisions we have made.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
So Is Brian still with us? Brian?
[02:06:41] Unknown:
Darn.
[02:06:42] Unknown:
Darn. Roger, real quick. You know when he played for UT?
[02:06:46] Unknown:
He's already gone. He's gone too. He has his finger. He literally has his finger on the exit ramp before he says ciao.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. I know. I wanna know if Howard was if, Brian Howard was related to Moe Howard or Curly Howard and and, if he played at UT while I lived in Texas because I know if he'd I'm sure my brothers know who he is because they are sports fanatics, and I'm sure they know who he is. I I can't wait to tell them
[02:07:23] Unknown:
who I was on a call with.
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Uh-huh. That's pretty awesome. Well, ask them. Ask them. Hey. Do you know what I mean by now?
[02:07:33] Unknown:
Right. Right.
[02:07:34] Unknown:
Okay. Does anybody else have anything to add from today's topic or can I take the stream down?
[02:07:41] Unknown:
Thanks, Paul. Great show.
[02:07:43] Unknown:
Thank you, Dave. Okay. Well, it sounds like about it. Sounds like it's time to, put this thing to bed. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Rogers Sales, the Tuesday edition for, 06/10/2025. Catch us here tomorrow, 11AM to 1PM eastern. We're here Monday through Saturday, eleven to one. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That is the matrixdocs.com. You'll find links to exhibits, downloadables. You'll find radio streams. You'll find new student sections. You'll find links to telegram groups, to chat groups. Oh my god. The list is long but distinguished. Thanks for joining us. I'll catch you back here tomorrow, 11AM, on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
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[02:08:59] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Introduction
Broadcast Platforms and Syndication
Discussion on Freedom and Sovereignty
Historical Context of Legal Systems
Economic Insights: Bonds and Inflation
Legal Challenges and Sovereignty
Case Study: Dog Bite Incident
Personal Motivation and Truth Seeking
Guest Introduction: Brian Howard
Traffic Court Experiences
Legal Strategies and Affidavits
Vehicle Ownership and Legal Implications
Listener Questions and Legal Advice
Closing Remarks and Reflections
