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Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.

And as would we, and we're gonna try again here on the I think it's the Thursday edition today, isn't it? This is Thursday.

Thursday. Okay. Yes.

Hueves. Hueves in Spanish,

j u e v e s, Hueves.

And, Roger Sales here at the Radio Ranch on the August

14.

Boy, August is just streaming right by.

Okay. And,

we're gonna, try another

swing at the big fat softball that the new world order is throwing us over the plate. I'd like to hit a grand slam and knock their ass out of the game.

Good morning, Paul. Hope you and everyone are doing well. Could you give us a list a listing

of our associates? Now today's Thursday, of course, which means Paul is doing double duty today because he's got the Paul English show, and I really

want some feedback on if, Paul is out now that he's single again. Is he out, like,

whistling and catcalling women and joggers? I really need to know. I don't think so.

Never hurts to ask. And there's an active bonus to today, Roger, that Paul can tell you about. There's a what?

Yeah. I'm I'm actually going to be playing triple duty today. We've got the Radio Ranch from ten to one,

and, hopefully, you'll be able to stick around

this afternoon

for a little while

because,

at,

01:00 eastern at noon your time,

we're expecting,

pastor Eli James to be joining us because

he actually

drafted

an additional

amicus curiae brief

and had it put in the case because he came across another brief

that,

mentioned something that

that Eli didn't catch.

So Eli actually took the information in the other brief, and he drilled down even deeper

and filed another one. And he's gonna be talking about that. So it's a busy busy

a busy little beaver he's been. Yeah. So, basically,

I'm gonna be busy today from 10:00 in the morning because I have to set up the show all the way up

to 06:00

or later all the way through the Poll English live show, which happens today at 3PM eastern.

Well, you know, the good thing that's happened is gonna

maybe have a bearing on that, Paul, is there's no income tax on overtime

now with mister Trump.

Right.

Okay. But still,

you know, even if I was in the 50% tax bracket, 50% of nothing is still nothing.

Oh, don't let the secret out, please.

Okay.

We're on, of course, radiosoapbox.com,

which is another platform that Paul English live will be on.

I might actually have to,

either delay my joining Paul English live or,

cut off the the Radio Ranch after show,

with a few minutes so I can, you know, switch gears and change connections. But,

I'll get that handled. Do we have any idea who, who Paul's guest is today? Does he inform you of that ahead of time, or does he even know?

No. He probably doesn't even know.

But if he if he does have,

any ideas,

it will be it should be on his website today.

So just go to paulenglishlive.com,

and it'll talk about Uh-huh. Alright. What, or you can just wait or you can wait and be surprised.

Well, yeah. Could do.

Yep. Definitely could do.

Yeah.

So we're on, of course, eurofolkradio.com.

Thanks to pastor Eli James, who will be joining us later.

And we're on Global Voice Radio Network.

And,

we're connected to a 1,000 seat free conference call line Mhmm. Where people can join us live on the show, and many do.

And, the links for Euro Folk Global Voice

and

FCC are on the matrixdocs.com.

Mhmm. I'd be willing to bet Todd and some of the new folks aren't haven't been exposed to Amicus

Eli yet. That's his new name. Amicus Eli.

But he's one of the guys that started all this, and he's a identity pastor,

man of a man of books, and and and the spoken truth, and a good friend. And

years ago,

he used to be on,

RBN on Sunday mornings. That's where I first met Eli.

And, then,

Statt Miller did something and bumped him out of there for some reason.

Another great programming

move from old John.

And,

and so then I left over there, the first ex wife, and went over to, the second ex wife, the micro effect.

And they didn't have anything like Eli, and so I got Eli a job over there. And he was doing Sundays over there on the micro effect, and then our past deviated again for a few years. And,

then what really happened, Paul, if you want some of the

succinct exact history here,

is,

I, I got popped off my third ex wife.

It was tough going through those babies.

And I got popped off my third ex wife over there at Truth Frequency

and, was looking for some for a home.

And I was gonna go over to Spreaker.

And, Paul called me,

and said, we I don't remember if we'd talked many times or not, but I had been simulcasted

on Eli's station here because of a gal that knew me and

suggested me to Paul, and they just would simulcast. And Paul came in and said, you wanna start your own

network? He said, you know, you you think about going over there with the tribe. We can do this, this, that, and the other. So

that's where the People's Patriot Network started.

Okay? Or attempted to start. It didn't go too far. I never could get enough people to commit. All you need, if you got your own network,

really all you need is twelve good solid hours a day,

and then you just flip it for the other twelve hours of the day. You know?

And,

unfortunately,

even,

you look at it, it's so hard for Alex to get good committed people. You know? And it's difficult. Brian Howard was one of those early guys. He did it for a while. And,

we had DJ who may pop in on us some time here and promote something she's promoting. She's another

national.

And, we had a few, but we couldn't get anybody to really consistently

do it. And so that's when it oh, here's what really happened. You'll appreciate this, Paul. There was some kind of a software glitch in the network software,

and Paul just said, well, look. We haven't done enough with this for me to take all the time to go in and find this particular glitch and get this going again.

So we kinda scrapped PPN, and I moved over here full time. So that's how I got here with the

I was already being simulcast, but now it's a primary broadcast outlet. Mhmm. And so always tickled to death to work with Eli and speak with him and all that. He's a good man. But it was he crossing paths somehow

with Paul.

I don't remember how if it was out of a I just don't remember how. I've I heard the story, but I don't remember it. And he and Eli crossed paths, and that was when the

invasion of of, Europe was happening with all the,

Sub Saharan Nubians.

And,

they started Eurofolk Radio as a opposition to the,

to the migrants invading Europe. So that's, for those of you who are new, that's a little history of where we are. And, of course, Paul found a way. He spent about a year and a half. This is

people sacrifice again. They don't get talked about but need to be recognized.

Paul spent about a year and a half. He

initially

had a house stolen

in some sort of a foreclosure game.

And, he said, well, I just noticed everybody that I came up against was a member of the tribe.

And so,

he started thinking about how can we do things, get, some sort of media exposure.

Spent about a year and a half looking at freeware and reading all the instructions to make sure everything would work. Well, that's a talent in itself,

by the way.

And,

and put together where we could stick these networks up for a ridiculously

small amount of money, honestly.

So, here we are. No commercials. Don't have to sell your ears. We got

nice uninterrupted,

broadcast, and,

hopefully, we

using those,

advantages, we can hammer the word home.

So we've been hammering ever since, Paul.

Yeah. And I I think I don't know. Paul might be able to share with us how he and Eli crossed paths.

Oh, I know he would. I just forgot whether it was on a website or something. Anyway, they started talking.

Out of all that came Eurofolk Radio, the flagship of Paul's networks. He's set up

four now, I guess.

And,

two of them are operating.

This one and a radio soapbox over there that were on occasionally, maybe today. I don't know if I don't remember if you named them or not.

Are we on are we on the old soapbox today? I thought it was, like, not on Mondays, but the whole two hours the rest of the week. Right? Yeah. We're on radiosoapbox.com.

I mentioned that Oh, you got it. Out of the gate.

Yeah. Well, it's about time for dinner over there. So do you have some fish and chips for us,

please.

How do you how do you get around how do you get around

calling a French fry a chip?

Because originally, they just slice the slice the potatoes and fry them that way, like, more like a potato chip, I wonder? I have no idea. I mean, I think that,

that the English

abhor the French a great deal more than Americans do.

So when Americans adopted French fries,

they

they just,

Well you know, their hair stood up in the back of their neck and said, it's no bloody way. We're calling it that.

You know? We're not going to give them that much credit. You you might have a point. You might have a point.

So, anyway, well, what's, what's going on in the world here? We got, the show is, for those of you who might be interested in, removing yourself from,

fake Jew slavery,

and we do a pretty good job of that here. And, if you're interested in removing yourself from the oppressive nature of these

cretins what do you what do you call these people?

My god. They're just unbelievable. Look what's the the the way god Parasites.

Parasites.

Thank you, Todd. Bring me back to my roots.

That's better than any. Okay?

And, they,

have

got this control over the world with these little word tricks, and, we have been able to, through the grace of God, figure out what they were doing. And,

I have a mandate, a duty to,

I've received all these wonderful gifts from the big man. Why? I'm not sure.

But, anyway, I'm gonna bestow them on all of you.

So, those who are who are,

acceptant, some of you aren't acceptant. You change the dials. They got what are those idiots talking about?

Go on and listen to something on National Public Radio.

So here we are in another,

swing, and it's Thursday edition, which is usually a little bit slower.

Thursday and Saturday is a little different.

So I hope everybody's doing good. If there's any new students, anybody that's got a question or comment, we'll just because we're we're here for you. Okay?

And, at the start of the show here and say, hey.

Hey, you out there in radio land. You got a question or a comment on your freedom?

Do you? I know I'm coming. Yes. There's one. We got one to the surface.

Hi.

Hi. Yes.

So I I go by lioness

and

Lioness. My

You know one of the

Go ahead. I'll shut out. Well, I was just gonna say, you found the pride of your fellow type a lionesses.

So congratulations.

I'll shut up and let you talk. I wish you would tell us what your name is. Lionesses is what how you prefer to be addressed, so we got that out of the way.

Where where are you in the country,

and how did you are you part of Todd's group?

Or if not, that's fine. Todd's group. Okay. Well, then I'll let you know

where where you are in the country.

I'm in Oklahoma.

I lived in Texas for thirteen years, but I moved here a year ago. I live off grid

in the mountains

Okay.

Outside of, Tallahina. I don't know if anybody knows where that is. Is that the Eastern or the Western part?

It's the Eastern. I'm about an hour and a half to Fort Smith, Arkansas.

Uh-huh. So you're right in McGrath territory, aren't you?

So I am let's see. I don't know where that is, but I'm, like, in the middle, like, in between

It's a Supreme Court case that came down a couple of years ago

having to do with Oklahoma

and the fact that you're now over there in tribal land. And that part of the state is run by the tribes. And

Oklahoma, the the government doesn't like it because they can't get their greedy little hands on all those taxes.

So, that was a very important decision. Now good on you

because we've got some really good listeners in Oklahoma.

One being outside Oklahoma City a little bit there is Mark, our paralegal.

And Joe, who lives, I think, on the East on the Western part of the state, is always hanging around. He's an old timer with a lot of good information and all that kind of stuff. So you may meet them along the way here.

So the lioness,

Joseph in North Central.

North Central.

North Central. Okay. Above Oklahoma City, I guess. So we've got a number of Oklahoma folks on board already, lioness.

So congratulations.

Maybe y'all can get enough folks there where you can

have a meetup. You know, those are always nice. Everybody gets to meet each other.

So anyway, we'll welcome. First of all, if you were in Texas, you'll know Bienvenidos.

So bienvenidos.

And,

how can we help you today?

So I started,

well, I I kinda learned about going into the private

several years ago, but I never

I read that, you know, the straw man book.

And then I had my children removed by CPS,

two years ago. And

that's when I kinda, like, I kinda started learning more actually back in January.

I I'm an insurance agent. Actually, I'm not anymore. I've quit doing insurance because I don't wanna be on the public side.

But

they, you know, they use

the insurance to get access to your SESQV trust and stuff. I mean, that goes through insurance too, and I didn't know that until I was doing insurance. But

I started moving into the private side, but, apparently, I did it wrong because

every that I

filed in land records never got recognized. I put it in my court case, and then I found your show and Todd, and I talked to Sheldon. And he's like, no. You gotta mail it to the secretary of state. I never did that. I wrote everything right, but I never mailed it.

So I just mailed it off, and it's supposed to arrive today.

Okay. And there's a bunch of people Yeah. That are in the same same

situation as me that are also involved in CPS cases that where their kids were fraudulently

k. Stolen, including a mom

that just had her baby stolen,

two Sundays ago out of a hospital by CPS.

They're, Robert Barnes says they're the worst, worst see up there in DC. I don't doubt it. Are you familiar with our experience

with CPS with our good student, Sarah? Have you heard about that yet? Yeah. I,

yeah, I did hear about that. So my thing is is like, okay. So

I mean, we're getting all of our status updates done correctly now because,

we I think a lot of us just never properly mailed it or knew how to make them invoice it once. Linus, nobody knew nobody knew but me. I'm the only one in the whole Patriot community that's ever had this information.

Ridiculous as it says.

Okay. So the first thing, I heard you mentioned a couple of buzzwords, k vest a trust and all that kind of crap.

First thing you need to do is wipe all that out of your memory because it's all

I think it's all crap. Okay?

And it doesn't have any bearing on what we do is getting free of the system.

And I believe that's all true. You are here's

what the reality of it is. There's only two political statuses, Lyon. That's you're either free or you're a slave.

Okay?

So it wasn't a straw man. It wasn't all this other stuff. You were a slave.

You were involuntary

servitude

because you agreed with it every time they asked you throughout your whole adult life. They said, are you a citizen of United States? Are you a resident? And I'll bet you answered yes every time, didn't you, and signed something.

So you I did up until recently. Right. Well, see, you're agreeing

with their fraudulent contract.

That's what that is. That made you a a what's called the English variety of slavery

because it was only voluntary.

And,

it was as if that was,

if you're in voluntary servitude, you're in servitude,

which is a form of slavery.

K?

And so what we're doing with our paperwork

is we're removing you from being involuntary

servitude where someone has a property right on you,

which makes you that's another one of these words. We can get into it.

But when they have a property right on on you like that, then they control you. It doesn't matter what percentage.

It doesn't matter if it's point OOO one or point O9999.

You're still a serve either way. K?

So someone has a property right in you. Do you understand

the differential in that word, the definitions,

Linus?

Yeah. Yeah. I do. Okay. Well, good. Well, you're you're that that one, we got out of the way.

So, anyway, that's what's going on. There's no kind of patriot stuff.

Just

get that out of your out of your mind if you can if you can. Being the operable phrase is very difficult,

with some folks.

But regardless, that's what you're doing. You're moving from being a with someone who had a property right in them in this fraudulent setup they got going that you agreed with every time they ever ask you, and you're moving over to being a free person.

That that's what's going on. It's not complex.

It doesn't have anything to do with all that stuff that the patriot community's been valuing

because quite frankly, no one knew that it was the feudal system.

That's the big piece of the puzzle that everybody's missing.

When you understand it's the feudal system and how you they they're implementing it, well, all the answers are right there.

K? K. And they all work. They've been working for fifteen years

without a flaw.

K?

So my my question for you is, like, okay. So once you

come out of that system, and I'm I'm hoping that I can get my I have a passport. I don't know where it is, but

I was told that it's probably just better to just go apply for a new one since I,

since I'm gonna be a national now instead of a citizen instead of trying to make a change. Well, let me say this. Is that correct? Doing now is you're you're taking your actionable

affidavit.

Are you sending them what you sent in file before, or are you using our suggested one?

I I used your suggested one. Thank you. Thank you very much. It's much better. I don't know what you wrote before, but, generally, those patriot things are

well, they just all you gotta do is use one sentence here because it's just not what you say

necessarily.

It's the fact that what you do put on that paper

rebuts the presumption that you're a serf.

That's what's important.

K?

And so I'm glad that you used that. Did you send it with just the cover letter to the secretary of state first? And now you're thinking about going back and doing a passport application. Right, Linus?

Yeah. So I sent it I sent it to the passport.

Wait a minute.

I hope I hope I didn't lose you. I clicked off my screen. I sent it to the pass

okay. I sent it to the passport place first, and then I sent it also

to,

the Homeland Security.

Okay. Well, alright. Could I not Just send it straight to the secretary of state. No passport office yet. Yeah.

Okay? Okay. Yeah. I sent it to them first, and then I sent a couple days later, I sent a cover letter to because my daughter is in CPS custody, so I sent it to the depart of the the head of health and human services in Washington, DC Yes.

Like, to all of the government offices there, the IRS.

Uh-huh. With but I didn't send the whole letter. I just sent a cover letter saying, hey. My status has been changed. Here's the the tracking number. Please update your records, basically.

Your daughter is still in CPS custody?

Yeah. I got my boys back, but they're refusing to give my daughter back. And I've I've learned a lot about it, and I know that it all has to do with title four funding fraud, which is through the Social Security Administration.

And they get a ton of money when they get a job. So There's all kinds of kickbacks going on.

I don't know Oh, yeah. This will work for you ex post facto.

K? Now Sarah had already filed the paperwork and all that, knew it, and confronted him in the hospital

with that. I I assume you've heard that little eighteen minute

testimonial. If not, you should listen to it.

But, I'm Yeah. I did. I did.

So the three lawyers, the hospital administrator, and the CPS official, they she presented her affidavits. They said, please leave the room. Five minutes later,

they came out and said you and your daughter are free to leave.

I hope and pray you'll have that same type of success, but I can't promise you that because it's ex post facto.

For the people that are not Right. With us on this,

the incident and the seizure of the daughter and everything happened

before

Lyon has

filed her paperwork.

So therefore,

now to then, it's called an ex post facto.

And I don't know if it'll work. It may. It may not. I don't know. So don't rely on whether our program works

on this one incident, I guess, what I'm trying to get across, Linus.

Roger.

Alright. Yes, Mirka?

Mirka, meet my for her.

Hello.

Welcome.

And I wanted to let her know that, when she put in her affidavit,

she needs to do them for children too,

so that they're protected.

Yeah. I already did that. My kids are in a trust, and I am like, my church, I have a five zero eight p one a. It's the,

it's the trustee for the trust that

the kids are doing. Lying this. Boy, somebody's been feeding you a load of bunk.

You can't to my knowledge,

I wish Mark was here. I don't know. You can put your children in a trust.

Yeah. So there's a girl on Telegram

who got her kids back by putting them in a trust, and she had them taken four kids taken care of for that without a doubt. Tomorrow. You come back tomorrow. I have Brent Winters, a a practicing attorney for over twenty years,

a man of great,

great knowledge

who specializes

in trusts.

And tomorrow when he's on, we will ask him if you can put human beings into a trust. I don't believe you can no matter what the girl on Telegram did.

But, you know, sometimes Roger, you you can

you can put children into a trust. Joe Lusica does it. Thor, is that right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's because the birth certificate

is, a receipt that does go into a trust. It becomes a it's it's it's a whole, like,

commercial transaction.

Make it better this year. Yeah.

Yeah. So, it can be done. You have to you have to do it very specifically

in English fingerprints and stuff. But yeah. Thank you, Thor. Good to hear your voice. How's it doing? Good?

Oh, this is America. This is a this is a newer student too.

Oh, I thought this was Thora, our girl Thora.

Oh. Okay. Well, listen. I'll tell you what. I'm gonna wait and reserve that and hear it from Brent tomorrow because,

I've never heard of that before. K?

And,

so we'll see. Or maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I I

yeah. Because trusts are a property vehicle.

So you're already saying, well, I guess the children would be your property if you had access to them. But under the status, if it's not changed, the children are the state's property.

Correct.

K.

Alright. Well, that's new to me. We'll ask Brynn about it tomorrow. Okay?

So,

go let's go ahead with lioness here and see if we can figure some of this stuff out.

Okay. Yeah. So

what I what I what I did was I put my babies in an ecclesiastical

trust,

which I had learned that that was the top law of the land. And then,

and then I plan I intend on taking it to Delaware because that's where Delaware Chancery is. And

I have another friend that's actually taking her her case to Delaware Chancery in a couple weeks to try to get her daughter back going that route because it's the only, court of equity. And from what I understand, did you file it?

Oh, I can't remember what it's called. It's some kind of affidavit.

Inequity, I guess, is what it's called.

Proving that you have you hold the title to the birth certificate, and then you take it to them, which I have not done that right now. My route is what I've been working on is filing circular two thirty claims and going through the IRS, letting them know that these people have trespassed on my trust res,

on my daughter's

that's Can you come back tomorrow and write this past bread, please? Yes. For sure. Alright. So what else? So what

for what else? Because I don't know about any of that, and I'm skeptical right off the bat.

So if it we could go on with the questions that you have for us that I do know something about because I'm off in la la. Roger,

the affidavit should work.

Well, I know it should work. Enough.

K.

So,

so the first thing you will wanna do is to,

file this with the secretary of state, not the passport office,

the secretary of state's office.

Now you wanna go for a passport.

You say you already have one.

Is it open, or is it expired?

It's expired. It expired probably about five years ago. Okay. Well, you still need it

if you've got it. Okay. Because when you submit, they're gonna want they're gonna well, you better find it. Okay? Or the alternative

is not too difficult.

If you can't produce that and send it to them in your new application for renewal,

then,

they're going to ask you to file a lost or stolen report.

And if you file a lost or stolen report, now you automatically go back to a d s 11.

If you can find it and include it, you're gonna use a d s 82,

which means that you don't have to be in front of an administrative

official to sign it.

You can mail it yourself.

You don't have to include an original copy of your birth certificate,

and they don't ask you a couple of questions like, were your parents citizens of The United States? Those are the differences.

K?

So you need to go hunt it up,

and,

it is best to do the renewal. If not, you're gonna have to take a couple extra steps. Okay?

So, that's that process.

You don't have any skeletons in your closet, do you? You hadn't been pulled over for drunk driving or any any altercations with cops that would have any kind of,

charge laying dormant in the background. Do you?

No. No. My my record my dad was the sheriff of the county that I grew up in. Is that right? Oh, that's pretty cool.

So okay. Well, then you could go ahead as fast as you want to and do the passport. The reason for that, of course, is it is the

highest,

it is the highest form of

identification

issued by the federal government.

And,

it will be attached to your affidavit that you include in the package. So

we've had some pretty interesting results from people.

Many of our students just carry the passport I the card as their ID. And you don't have to get a whole new book either, Lyon. If you want, you can just renew and get a card. Unless you're gonna do international traveling, it doesn't sound to me like you've got

international travel plans in your future with children. Right?

Not not at this time. However, I mean, there's times where I'm like, man, I just need to leave this country, but hopefully but Todd keeps telling me, oh, just get free, and then you won't feel that way anymore. Well, you may or may not. We don't know what the future brings. But,

if you, if you've got the funds to be able to escape, it's not like I had a guy in Atlanta.

He had he he had gotten big inheritance and stuff and he on this information. I don't think he's still ever filed an affidavit. And he goes,

well, Roger, when I get ready to leave, I'm just gonna go get my ticket and stop by the bank to get my money and go to the airport and leave. No. You're not. That doesn't work like that. Okay?

So all kinds of stuff. If you got more than $10,000,

which you probably would in that instance if you were leaving,

you're gonna wanna declare it.

If you declare it, they won't do anything to you. If you carry over 10,000 and don't declare it, you're susceptible

to arrest. You're susceptible to seizure of your assets

and everything else. But if you declare it, evidently, nothing happens because my friend that owned property in Argentina,

he carried a quarter of a million dollars down to Argentina because everybody that wants to sell property wants dollars.

And so they don't want the rotten at Argentine pesos. Okay? So he went all the way down there with a quarter of a million dollars. He said, Rogers, like, nobody said a word peeped a word to me. K?

So if you're gonna carry more than 10,000,

declare it.

And,

but you're not gonna snap your fingers and go, I'm leaving the country. I don't think.

My experience is it's a lot more it's a lot more involved than that, but go ahead, Lioness. So,

you're So I was just gonna say that I I met a guy who, he does tours in Colombia, and, apparently, he knows somewhere where you can get a airline ticket for $12.

So when I heard that, I was like, maybe I should move to Colombia.

Oh my gosh.

Okay. Well, that's like the postage the zero postage thing.

I I okay. Well, I may be, but I've never heard of a flight for $12 either.

So Me neither. So you're bringing all kinds of new territory around here, Elias.

Roger?

Yes. Debbie,

Julie, do you know of $12,

tickets to South America?

I I don't I don't, but I wanted to know how I can get in touch with Linus because I know all about the trust res, and I know all about that trinity where you have the 5508

c one a and the ecclesiastical

ecclesiastical

trust and the PMA, and I know exactly what you're talking about with the trust res. How would I get in touch with you?

Well, I don't mind giving you my phone number. You can text me, and I can send you my contact link on,

I think I should do it. Yeah.

It's (830)

212-1536.

Okay. (830)

212-1536?

Yeah. And then,

yeah. Of course. Touch with you. Yeah. Because I know exactly what you're talking about with the IRS and all of that stuff. I definitely wanna talk to you about that. Okay. Yeah. And then there's

there's one other thing I wanted to talk to Roger about because,

I've been going down this

hole on the post office

with their,

EPS

system, which is a business you can get a business account, but you can also open it up for a trust, which I did.

And so I started mailing

all of my stuff

using my,

my EPS account.

But in order to get international backing, you have to mail it with

via registered mail

because they keep a lifetime

record of your mailings. And I guess certified only does it for a year or two, so you can only, like, you only have proof for, like, a year or two. And then the other thing okay. So I do that. Log it in my firm book because you can that'll stand up in court, like, if you ever have to go to court if it's in the firm book, which I know you know about. I heard you talking about it yesterday or the day before. Right.

But so I was curious because I have heard

conflicting stories about mailing stuff. Some people say

never use certified mail, always use registered mail because registered

is considered for

non US citizens,

but certified pulls you back into that jurisdiction. No. No. No. You heard a bunch of crap. Okay? I used to work for Pitney Bowes. We affectionately referred to as Pitney Bowes. Do you know who they are?

I sure do.

Well, I used to work for them

I used to work for them for a couple of years,

and we knew more about postal regulations

than the people at the post office did because we had to go out and sell that mailing equipment. Okay?

Registered mail, the red thing.

The reason that you have to tape every

on a package, you've got a cover tape with every seam.

K?

The reason is because registered mail is only for things with intrinsic

value. Stocks, bonds, bearer bonds, gold, all the gold and silver dealers

use the post office to send their stuff, and it's always registered.

And this is the reason.

Because it's got intrinsic value,

everyone that touches it has to sign for it.

That it takes longer.

It costs more.

If it's

if it lands in a post office overnight,

they have a locked caged area that they put all of the registered mail in

because everybody that touches it has to sign it.

K? I don't I don't know about keeping records indeterminately

or what that matters as long as you got proof of mailing and proof of receipt

and to actually at the post office.

The way the IRS works,

lioness,

is they send you something. They're trying to corner you, and they send it to the last known address.

You may not live there in twenty years,

but it's considered received

the minute they put it in the post office.

So you wanna use the cheaper,

green certified is fine.

And once the postal clerk takes a stamp and stamps the package or the envelope,

it's considered received

just like the IRS stuff.

So, again Okay. My spiny senses say you've been fed a whole bunch of Patriot crap. Okay?

So that's what I've heard the whole time we've been going through this conversation

to me. Alright? But I do know about the post office, and I do know about registered mail. Some people just have to have to do that. I do not understand why. They think it's

they think it's better or whatever. It's not. Okay?

It's for things with intrinsic

value.

Alright. Now hold it. Somebody's gonna try and interrupt me and say different. Who was the guy? Was that Dave?

I thought there's a guy trying to say something.

Okay. So that's what I've learned. I I I worked for Pitney Blows for a couple years. Okay? So

I I I have a I have serious. We have a former postal

employee who would be with us normally these last couple days, Jeff,

for twenty something years, and he could tell you the same thing, but,

that's the accumulation

of our experience.

Okay? So take that bit of patriot mythology

and swish it right out of your mind.

Okay. I have one more question for you. Yes.

Okay. So now after after I do the status update, and I know that you can tell the IRS that you are no longer a taxpayer.

So if I

become a national, which I have, they should get it today.

Does that prevent me from, like,

starting a business with the EIN and things like that?

No. I'd suggest you start a business. I don't know what you're talking about, but with a private membership association.

Right. Okay. Okay. And then and then you are are behind that.

I'm not sure about an EIN. It wouldn't make any difference. You could get one. Even if you notify the IRS, you'll still be a potential taxpayer

because two sections of the tax code that you're responsible for, eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b,

you may not have those taxes this year. But if you did have them, like dividends on stocks or bonds, you'd be a taxpayer, wouldn't you?

Those are both Right. Yeah. So I would just

Those are both constitutional taxes.

So this word taxpayer,

again, patriot mythology

does does not automatically mean that's you. You can be a national and still be a taxpayer.

K? Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. Because people are telling me, oh, if once you do this, you can't use your Social Security number for anything. I well, there's more Patriot crap. There's more Patriot crap

right there that anybody in the world can sign up for Social Security. If you go to this website and go,

for the form a s s five or whatever it is,

they'll say, are you a national?

And the then there's a pull down that says what country.

So anybody in the world can contract with Social Security. That is not the nexus to the system. Again,

get that out of your mind.

I submitted my affidavit

fifteen years ago in Argentina

when I opened my account and I've been getting checks for fifteen years. Okay?

Total

Patriot. Well, that's good stuff. People are looking for what we've got here.

That is the feudal system and how to deal with it and how to get out of it. Since they don't know that, they say things see things like, well, everybody has social security number. That must be the connection. They connect those dots.

Now, normally in the old days, now they assign you one at birth that came in GATT in the nineties in a treaty. Okay. That's why you get one automatically at the hospital now.

But, before that you had to wait till you were working age.

So do you think they're going to let somebody wait until they're 16, 17 and 18

to develop the nexus to attach them to the system?

No, they do it at birth.

You see, if you really think these things through and you know some of this stuff, you see how absurd some of these patriot conclusions are.

They're just wrong.

Right.

Okay?

So don't worry about that. Wanna tell you.

Okay. Go ahead. Much talk. I do wanna tell you I do wanna tell you a testimony because,

so

the reason why I lost my kids was because my ex husband called in a whole bunch of false,

CVS cases on me.

And

after they get, you know, 30 cases in a month, they remove your kid. Like, they don't care if you're telling the truth or not anymore. He did that? And your children abused your children as pawns in that?

Yep. He sure did. That's some bitch ought to be flogged.

Yep. And they're planning on sending my daughter to him right now, and I'm really ticked because he's abusive.

And, yeah, it's it's a nightmare.

But let me tell you that I did get my boys back. How old are you? They were pledged. How old are you? She just she just turned 16, and she wants to come home. But the but there's a conspiracy

between

all of the guard because they get more money if they don't send her back to me. If they send her back to me, they lose out on the money. Yep. Yeah. So they have

bullied my daughter, forced her, told her, like, threatened her, retaliated,

like, it's a mess

against her for saying that she wanted to come home.

Anyway

but I know that even though

they did not recognize my standing,

in the court files, I know that the I know the intention means a lot, and I could tell at the last two court hearings that it made something. Of course, the last hearing, he tried to make me sound like I was crazy when I said I was a national,

but, the judge did anyway.

But I my ex husband actually sent CPS out to my property here in

Oklahoma back in April.

And I showed up out there, you know, with a cease and desist and

told them I was a national

and told them to leave my property. And at first,

they,

they threatened to arrest me. The officer said that I I would be investigating with an with an or I would be interfering with an investigation if I didn't let them talk to my boys.

But

they came back in in May.

And when they saw all my no trespassing signs and my, you know, my cease and desist that I have posted on my fence and everything, they didn't even

attempt to come up to my property, and they've completely left me alone.

So I know that there is that even though it wasn't done correctly, which it is now,

it did have some kind of weight,

on them because they've left me alone.

Well, they didn't know they don't know this stuff. You know half of it.

And and and they better I I think they said probably BaccOff is the better part of honor because there's no

lines that they could potentially cross.

Are you familiar with a site called Copper Moonshine still,

Linus?

I am.

Okay. Well, good.

Was guy out of Arkansas, evidently, his stuff works. I don't know why. Because he tells his people to lie on the passport application,

which for me is a big no no.

But he's got some great court sites over there. And one of them, at ones I'd never seen, actually, and one of them says I think it was an appellate level.

And it says, unless a person can prove

they're not a citizen of The United States, so you they're asking you to prove a negative.

Unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States,

the IRS can move on to assessment

assessment collection, something of that.

The important part of it is, the first, unless you can prove the only way you can prove you're not a citizen of The United States, the only way, period,

is to send some sort of documentation,

either a declaration, preferably an affidavit,

in the hands of the secretary of state.

Now this goes back, Lyonus, to an 1835

case. It's on the website.

The pertinent site is.

Ubudutu

v DRC

is the style.

There was no secondary citizenship

yet. It was before the civil war.

And the site says

a passport

is a document

drawn up under somebody's sniffing their nose there.

Some drawn up under the laws of nations,

Patel's law of nations, we talked about a bit yesterday,

and it is an ex parte

document. In other words, the passport

is a separate part

of what we're talking about here. And then it says, but if the question is a matter of citizenship,

it's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary,

if admissible in a court of law,

should be considered the higher and better evidence.

So you had not done that, so you were not free.

The guys you're confronting don't probably know anything about this. They probably never heard of National before.

So anyway,

if we can get sounds like you're on the straight and narrow now.

But that's what you gotta do, and it doesn't matter. See all these people in the patriot community for all these years, they get into a court situation

and they challenge jurisdiction

because they they probably they don't know which jurisdiction. They don't know subject matter or a person, but they challenge jurisdiction. And the and the, supposedly,

if jurisdiction is challenged,

then nothing can move forward until that challenge is satisfied.

So but they can never get it totally satisfied, and the judges come up with all these weird ways to get it and say they got it, but nobody ever brings up that it had to be on file with the secretary of state.

Okay?

So, there's just all this confusion in the patriot

community for all these decades

because they don't know we're dealing with the feudal system.

If you know that key and you understand the feudal system,

you the the whole all the answers are right there in front of you. But because no one has ever known that,

that that that that's the advantage we've got right here, Linus. Okay? So you're being instructed on how to do this correctly.

The proof in the pudding is that it's worked flawlessly for almost fifteen years.

We've never had a recorded case

of blowback

from the federal government. We get a couple of bluff letters every now and then just to test you, see if you know what you're talking about. But we've never had any blowback

of these people stepping over the line. Okay?

Hey, Roger. It's Brian. Can I add to that real quick? There's Brian. Was that you snorting there?

Yeah. No, sir. I don't I don't I don't know who that was. Yeah. Well, you're a Longhorn. I thought you're snorting.

Linus and audience, Brian Howard, one of our old time students

who chooses to come back around lately here, which is good.

Do you, do you wanna,

add 2¢ here,

Brian?

Yeah. A quick 2¢. That's it. Just on the jurisdiction

for anybody that's new. There's

there's a simple way to always deal with it no matter what the charge, no matter what the venue, no matter what.

If you're ever,

arrested, given a ticket, a summons, whatever, if you choose to walk into that courtroom,

you have to have your

ducks in a row and be ready to execute exactly,

how to

use your jurisdiction, and it's very simple. K. Before

anything yep. Go ahead. I'm just gonna say what what I'm my my,

goal is to keep your ass out of court.

K? But occasionally,

mostly tied to traffic crap,

people get in there. Go ahead.

Yeah. And that I'm gonna do a general with no mention of traffic because it's just too much of a wormhole. But this is just a general jurisdiction,

you know, practice it. Everybody listening should,

think about have your documents

prepared and have your basically, just, you know, like a folder ready if you ever if anything ever comes up so you don't have to go back and, you know,

recreate stuff. Just Oh, yeah. Do it ahead of time and have your obviously, have your status corrected just like Roger's teaching. First and foremost, that's the fir very first step.

If you ever go into a venue, whatever, for whatever whatever, you know, could be tax, it could be anything,

you immediately,

challenge the name that they call to stand up, and walk up, address the judge, and address that there's an error. The court has made an error, and your due process has been grossly violated,

and say that the court does not have jurisdiction.

There's two forms of jurisdiction.

You need to figure those out and memorize them. I'm not gonna teach that, Roger.

It's very simple. Two forms of jurisdiction. You challenge it. You immediately ask the court. The judge is gonna, you know, immediately do what he's gonna do. You interject.

You object to anything he said, and you ask who is the clerk in the court. And they have to identify themselves. If they don't, the case is immediately dismissed on any, you know, any kind of stuff that's happened to me where they refuse to identify themselves, other things like that.

Immediately,

you,

address and say I have,

affidavits and evidence. I I want to read into the court record and just start reading them. They're gonna try to stop you. They can't. That's a violation that dismisses any case.

And to approach the clerk and immediately have your status,

your,

whatever. There's four or five. I can go into detail, not right now, later.

Also a a trick that has worked, and I've proven it now multiple times.

If you're ever pulled into a court for any anything

before that court you know, before you walk into there, you go right into the clerk and you put those documents in and have them added to the court record, have it stamped with the embossed deal, pay,

ask to pay, make sure that you pay something so they give you a receipt.

Sometimes they won't. They'll try to do it. And that's where they hide documents. They're always gonna hide those documents. If you show up, they're gonna say, oh, yeah. It's in there, but they're not in the court record.

You get them in there. You get them stamped. When you walk into the court, you do just what I said to do. You challenge jurisdiction.

Then you end you basically have a second copy. You put them in you hand them to the, the clerk of the court, and that's the end of it. They have to they have to prove jurisdiction. If they don't,

the deal is a dead deal, and they're not ever gonna challenge your status. They are never ever gonna want challenging it because that that exposes the whole damn thing. You know, Brian I have a question. Marga. Hold on, Mark. Brian came up. Brian Mark came up with a good idea.

If you stay like you're there in where you are in Tennessee,

and you don't go off out of town or whatever,

you could go into the court and file a declaratory

judgment.

And you put the facts of being a national in there, and they then have to decide on whether it's right or not.

So before anything ever happens, you file this declaratory

request for declaratory judgment

and put them right into a corner before the start before anything happens.

We try and keep that at court. Let I'll I'll let's keep it simple on Linus here. She's which I'm trying to straighten this stuff out with her. Oh, Todd, Todd, how do you get so many of these gals with these damn problems, man?

You got Ziggy with a nightmare. Well, no. No. No. And now we meet Linus. I only teach your way. The thing is, Roger, the only thing is is that you know how it rolls. So you rerun into people who don't know anything, who are scared to do anything, and others that like myself that used to we've been taught so many things. We're so especially when you have,

important things like what Lioness is going through in her life. She used to do anything to get her kids back, and she's very educated. It's just, we have to re regroup,

kind of forget some things, but I only teach your way. And,

and she's just doing great. So I hope, a lot of people will thank you for reaching out to her.

We're always students. But, yeah, I no. I love anybody coming, Raj. Anybody else helps. Yeah. No. I understand.

I just we hadn't had but a couple of these in in a number of years, and here we get two from you. There's probably some others maybe lurking in your group there. Linus, we would like to try and get you straightened out, girl. Okay? As much as possible. Question for Alright. Myrca Myrca, female to female is gonna talk to you here. Go ahead, Myrca.

Well, for it was for the question was for Brian. When you are in court and do all that,

and if they don't recognize it, what do you do?

How do you respond to the emergency object Do you appeal and, ask them to.

But when you're in court,

Brian, would

how would you respond?

Am I muted, or can you hear me? No. You can hear me. I can hear you.

Oh,

your question was, what do you do in court is basically

somewhat of what I said.

You never

agree to anything and all you do in the initial thing is one thing, you challenge

jurisdiction.

That's all you do.

The court that that ends any the court or the prosecuting attorney most importantly. Because remember, the the judge is supposed to be,

an independent third party unbiased, but that's obviously not the case.

But you you

never ever ever lose your temper, be very kind. Yep.

And you challenge the jurisdiction and you you look at the judge and you say specifically, and I said this,

there's no way that this court can move forward.

Fraud has occurred. Right. There's no way that this the fraud has occurred, and there is no way that this prosecuting attorney

could ever prove that there is an injured party.

Right. And I did not I demand immediate I demand immediate evidence of the injured party, to be brought forth. Now I will add to it before any of that happens,

I'm not going down the traffic thing. But before that, if you ever do get a summons for something, you don't wait. You immediately

send in those,

affidavits and all that to the clerk

and demand that they send you immediately,

information and evidence of an injured party, a corpus delecti. Okay? That's the whole that that that ruins the whole thing. They have to immediately produce evidence of a injured

man or woman, not a corporation, a corpus delecti, living man or woman. If that's not produced, it in that, you have a default judgment that's in the affidavit. I can provide all these to anybody that needs them. You have a default statement that says that the court does not,

respond within x amount of days that you,

that you, will put in a default judgment. And by having it notarized by a notary,

then that's

that's official. And so Just to make an administrative part.

Absolutely. You get a default judgment before you even ever step into place. Then you challenge jurisdiction, and you basically

create a a hornet's nest where they go like, oh, hot potato. Get this person out of here. Okay. Right. So, I know that I remember Ryan giving that.

Can we get back to him? I wish we're getting way off a field here. Yeah. And, I guess, I'll get back to him on her phone. Roger.

Really quick. Ryan did that a a long time ago, one of Roger's students,

and he got his, case dismissed also.

So yeah. Well, the problem is you're live you're you you're if you're talking traffic crap, you're talking every jurisdiction's gonna handle it differently

for the most part. And you can't get any consistency

here.

That's why I don't like getting into it. I can solve everything with the feds. We've never had a piece of blah back.

This traffic thing's a nightmare.

Drive carefully and be conscientious.

You're wanting to be a national with total personal responsibility?

Act like

it. Hey, Roger. Hey, Roger. I'm not mentioning traffic. I'm mentioning if you had a, if you had a trespass,

if you had a,

assault, if you had a, child support, this is not traffic. It's a general jurisdiction statement. It has nothing to do with, traffic tickets. Can we Andre, I posted my Telegram link in there for Lyoness because I wanted to help her with the, notices if she,

wants to reach out. Linus, there's several different folks, Mirka being one, Dave and Kaye,

Devin,

Gary and Gina. There have been a bunch of people that have contributed to what we do

by putting up resources. Mirka has a Telegram channel.

She just put the if you've got Telegram,

she's, just put that in one of the chats.

Excuse me.

And,

Dave and Kaye is nationalstatus.com.

They've got a whole website set up with AI attached. They can do your documents for you, all kinds of fancy stuff over there.

We've got a handbook that Devin spent a lot of time on that's downloadable from the website that you can

get and hand print and hand out to people. Gary and Gina

excuse me.

Gary and Gina set up a trifold thing

that that you can,

also print and handouts. There's a lot of people that are bellied up to the bar

and out of their own,

initiate,

initiation,

have gone ahead and set these up for people like you. Okay? Now I wanna get back to where we were originally.

Bob's trying to say something. All these people wanna talk about court stuff. We're just trying to get you on the straight and narrow here. Okay?

And Mark no. Cash has showed up. I'll see you back just so you know. Showed up. Oh, you're in Oklahoma, I'll betcha.

Another Oklahoma person for you here, Mark. Thanks for calling me out. Well, with

a with a ton of, with a ton of baggage.

So anyway With your big thumbs up in the chat? Okay. Bob was trying to say something a minute ago. Bob, what did you have?

A couple of general observations, particularly for the new students.

It's obvious to some and not others, but I've heard some people d s eleven. What was that? B s d s v no. It's department of state. B s, department of state.

Just if you have that in your brain, you know, it's it's easier to remember if you know why they call it that. Yeah. Well Secondarily, when you came up when you're

I'm just gonna say, like, Social Security is s s five. Social Security.

D s 11 d s dog dog dog doo doo.

D as in New York, and the last one. And dog doo doo 80

something. Anyway pop.

I just heard I just heard somebody couldn't

here three or four days ago, they were trying to get it, and they were just questioning, you know, the

the b? No. It's not a b. It's a d for department.

DS.

Okay.

The second thing is just an observation.

You you mentioned copper moonshine stills and the fact that they tell you to lie on the passport application, and

you really I I was I won't say glossed over it, but the reason they do that is because they don't understand the feudal system. Exactly.

They assume.

I'm imputing this. I'll I'll admit, but it's pretty obvious. They're assuming

that since

you're

in this condition, you got it from your parents,

and that's not true.

You coulda got it from the great grandparents or the great great great grandparents, but the fact is it's a presumption

before you ever

ever have a chance to validate it or not.

Anyway,

they're

they're telling you to lie because they don't understand the process.

You might illuminate

that a little bit more. Interesting thing is why hasn't the passport office come back on passport fraud

on them?

Well, that's a good question. I mean, I assume they probably could. Well, they probably could, but they don't wanna bring this issue into a spotlight. Exactly. Because they're scared as hell of it because it strips them of all their power and they can't do anything about it.

Right.

Okay. Well, I just wanted to bring that forward as to why. I'm pretty confident that's why they do it and it's invalid.

But anyway

Okay.

System folks, Voluntary. You got you got a new Oklahomian here, it's lioness, Mark. She's over there in Indian

territory,

a McGrath territory. Yeah. She's down there in Tallahina.

I've I've been through Tallahina several times.

I had a, a girlfriend who lived there.

And Tallahina, Roger, just just so you get an idea, is kind of in the Southeast

Corner Of Oklahoma,

and it's just a hop, skip, and a jump to Mena, Arkansas.

Oh, boy. Let's go get her and get us a couple of kilos.

Mhmm. Have you heard about Little Dixie?

The Dixie Mafia? Well, that's right there. I'm here. I'm here. Okay.

Of that part of Oklahoma. So Okay.

Cool. Well, Linus got our keys over

Oklahoma City. He's our, onboard,

paralegal guy. He doesn't usually

visit with us on Thursdays as of late because he's having to take care of his folks, and he's got a lot on his plate. But I guess we summoned him up today when we said Oklahoma

and Tallahina.

Yeah. I was,

yeah, I was driving and it was,

I was running some errands for mom and dad. And

and it was 10:00, so I I,

listened in.

And then when I got back home and got them

all taken care of, I sat down and and,

logged in. Okay. Fantastic. We're glad to have you on board here. Linus,

we're gonna circle back to you. We have Roger? Yeah. Go ahead, John. Before we before we go to Linus, I wanna follow-up with what Bob just said.

And

I used to falsely believe that when I was born,

I was

a national

or

a free, some status of being free.

I I didn't call it national. I just called it American

of The United States Of America. Right?

I didn't

this is when I was just first learning about the,

you know, I understand better about

the federal

jurisdiction

laying over top of the states and so forth. And so,

I falsely

believed

that when I was

born, I was free.

And then, I got entrapped

with, you know, the signatures and the social security number and all that stuff, which we've learned is,

you know, completely bogus.

But the feudal system

was when the day you explained the feudal system, that was the first time I heard it.

And I jumped out of my chair and did a happy dance because for me,

that was like the big missing piece of the puzzle.

If you don't understand the feudal system,

this really doesn't make much sense.

Okay.

Because in the feudal system,

once a man pledges him and his family

to the lord of the manor, which was a person over a geographical

area,

and he pledged

his allegiance

in return for protection,

protection

then from that point on, if that husband and wife had children,

if they had existing children, they immediately became property of the Lord of the manor.

And any future children they have, as soon as that child's born, it's property

of the Lord of the manor. And now the same thing is here. Now we kind of make a reference to anchor babies.

But

in a sense, if your parents

are

US citizens

and you're born,

you're automatically a US citizen. Period.

Okay?

Now

you have to,

you know, you have to correct that status.

But it's my opinion

that if your parents are a US

citizen,

before anything's done,

you're automatically a US citizen

with whatever civil rights

you might have as a US citizen

unless that presumption is

corrected, I should say.

Because your parents don't know any better,

They mark you down as a US citizen right from the get go.

And that's how it's put forward on the birth certificate and so on and so forth. And then from that day forward, you're signing all kinds of documents.

You know, I'm a US citizen.

And you sign it

all throughout your young adult life,

even before you turn

18.

So, that's, I just wanted to follow-up with Bob on that because

I believe

that because of the feudal system that we're under,

as soon as you're born

and your parents are US citizens, that automatically

makes you a US citizen.

And it may it may go so far.

If your parents are both nationals,

when you have that children, a child at least initially,

it may be under the presumption still. I don't that's a fine point. I've never discussed it, but Tom Sram had a hell of a time trying to get a passport for his son who

was born out of the hospital. And the only way they it's unbelievable.

He went and applied for a passport. They said, well, you you need a birth certificate. I want you to go to the Bureau of Vital Statistics here in Georgia.

And it just happened to be

that the year his son was born was a census year. And it was born at Bent Tree, a subdivision up in the low mountains above Atlanta.

And,

the census taker came by

and registered the baby in the census that year, and it showed up in vital statistics.

But

the presumption was that it was a citizen of The United States. Now the thing is is Tom Why would they know the name of the baby and the birth? You know, I I don't I don't know any of that, Mark. I'm just telling you the part of the story I know. And Tom, being stubborn as he is, would never

take my suggestions because it was me. And so he never was totally free. Thought he was, but he wasn't.

And, so that's just one of these little gray areas. I don't know. But this is also interesting, lioness.

If your baby comes out, like,

is out of the birth canal up to the knees,

is that child born yet?

No. I don't think so.

It's only when his feet come out of the birth canal

that he is considered born. And under the fourteenth amendment, all persons

were you listening when we went over the legal person stuff, lioness?

On the fact that all persons well, that doesn't mean just persons. It means all persons under the fourteenth amendment

or otherwise.

K. It's from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties.

So it's not a baby,

a per a baby until the feet are out of the canal. It's not a person.

And so that's where all the abortion stuff comes from. When you're in mama's womb, you're not born and you're free game because you're not a person yet. And you're not a person receiving rights and protections and owing duties,

which is when the whole butt baby comes out. And then the birth certificate, which is so tossed around,

John Benson always thought it was a warehouse receipt, a doubling

of the usage of the of the document,

and a commercial warehouse receipt, a commercial document. Do you know anything about those things, Linus?

A little bit.

Well, let me tell you what I know, and you can see if it judges with what you've been told.

A a warehouse receipt this is why these guys use merchant law. They don't wanna use admiralty law. They can't do anything in admiralty law like this.

They can take this commercial document called a warehouse receipt, which has got a totally valid usage for

God knows centuries of millennia,

and it represents

the good.

And the Brian Howard's on with us today. He's the one that verified this with the hospital in Austin.

Okay? When the child is born,

they fill out a document called a verification of facts. Hair color, eye color, etcetera, weight, etcetera.

It has a place to be signed by the parents. At the bottom, it's never signed.

It because they're property. It's not their baby. It's the federal government's baby.

They take that verification of facts over to a computer terminal that's put in every hospital in the country by the federal government for this express purpose,

and they put input that information on a very crude operating system like DOS.

They send it over to the Bureau of Vital Statistics

where the birth certificate

is then printed off of that information,

and then, Lyoness,

it's put into a bank safe

with armed guards

twenty four hours, seven days a week.

It's

being used I'll get you in a second, Brian. It's being used as a warehouse receipt.

In that commercial

capacity,

the paper

takes on the qualities

of the good.

The person now becomes the paper.

They have a CUSIP number on it, which is for tracking,

and then they take that warehouse receipt representing you and your future labor,

and they attach it to bonds

to be issued and sold in the bond market. Isn't bond the root word of bondage?

Yes. It is.

Yes, Brian.

Quick on that hospital thing. You know, we discovered a lot of that, but

now knowing what we know, the I think it's a little bigger. If you have a child or if you give birth to a

human boy or a man or woman in a hospital,

you're basically

already in what is called a ward. Yep. Look at the word, the origin of the word ward, and you're basically born on a ship at sea,

under admiral two law. Brian, please don't bring all that in because I don't teach that. I don't agree with it, and I don't teach it. So please. Okay? What I'm trying to say is

Please don't do that. You're born in a the the corporation is the hospital is basically a corporation. So,

that's all I'm saying. Please don't teach any of this here. I don't want this on my program, please.

K? Okay, Roger.

Alright. You can go over on the student section in the new student section on the website,

and we've got an article from the British press

from right at the start of COVID.

And the mom has had the baby in the hospital,

and they started trying to put that long

Q tip up its nose. It was very painful.

The child starts screaming.

The mother objects

and the nurse, not the administrator,

not the doctor,

the nurse says,

you cannot object

that baby is our property.

Right there

from the British health service. K? You can go see the article.

So, anyway, I just don't agree with any of that stuff, Brian. So if you wanna follow it, but I don't want it on this program, please. Okay?

Now I I sent you a message the other day and asked you for your lawyer's name

that you used in your case there

because we've got a listener, Tess,

who moved to Tennessee, I don't know how long ago, from Colorado.

And the guy that was,

hauling her U Haul or her trailer

bent the frame and a whole bunch of other stuff, and she's going nuts trying to get somebody to help her get this straightened out or else she's gonna have to be in a deformed trailer. And she's new, and she didn't know any lawyers. And I was thinking maybe if your guy might know somebody over in Eastern Tennessee or could give her a lead on who she might could get that was a good attorney.

So if you'd shoot me his name and number, I'll feed it to Tess. Okay?

Yeah. Happy to. Did you send me a message on

email or text? No. What's I sent you on WhatsApp.

Okay. Let me I probably haven't checked it. Alright. I'll call you back to the next don't check it too often. So let's get back to Lioness here.

Uh-huh.

Yeah. Yes, Larry. Lioness. I'm sorry. Yeah. Go ahead, Larry.

Yeah. I was just curious,

the student, Brian.

Brian, what are your credentials and what successes have you had I've been pleased. Missing Chase. No. Let's get no. Larry, please. Let's get back to lioness. That's who we're with. Okay?

Lioness, let's get back to you.

What, where where were we with you with all this extra information

that's got you drinking water out of a fire hydrant?

I think you answered all my questions. I really appreciate you, and I'm really thankful that,

that Todd told me I needed to come

listen in and ask my questions. Because

like I like I said, I was talking about the, you know, the difference between mailing certified and registered, and you answered that question.

So that was I mean, I think that was my last question. I I think you answered everything that I had. Okay. So I really appreciate

well, we I'll tell you what we didn't even touch on, though,

is taking after you've got this into the secretary of state and you've applied for your passport,

you need to somewhere

of in the front end of this, you need to now what we call weaponize this, be like a porcupine,

and you need to start, notifying all your state officials of this change because you live in Oklahoma.

You don't live in the secretary of state's office. Okay? So you'll wanna write and take a copy of your affidavit. Do you know about this yet?

Yeah. I do. I that's the part that I'm at now because I think it's gonna arrive today. So I'm gonna start sending it out. And

my daughter is in

is in Texas, and I'm in Oklahoma. So I I'm from what I understand, I have to mail it to every place between here and there and

also to Idaho because if they send her to her dad, that that's where he is.

I don't know. Am I am I we're gonna no. It's just frustrating because we're getting this ex post facto.

And and how do you go back and and realign all this when it may or may not even apply? K?

I'm talking about

just notifying

you on your you haven't changed her status,

and you cannot change your children's status

unless you've got total custody of them, which you must not have because you said they're wanting to send the daughter back to dad.

I believe if you're gonna try and get them to be nationals as minors, you need both parents

or both whoever's got responsibility over the children, both gotta sign

it. If not, you got solo, you can do it. If not, you're probably doesn't sound like gonna get your husband's agreement on this.

Well, I have a affidavit where he relinquished his rights, and, I have that signed and notarized from him that he filed in the court case. And

yeah. And on top of that, there is no lawful court order on my case. I've pulled the whole entire file. There's no court orders, not even the court order of my boys being commanded to return. The whole case is fraudulent. Uh-huh. The only court order that that exists

is, our divorce decree, which gave me full custody of the kids.

And Well, then you may be able to do that. Because of abuse.

Sounds like Martin sounds like she ought to be able to do that.

Mark, you still with us?

Yeah. I'm still here. Can you hear me? Yeah.

Well, yeah. First thing I do is get a certified

copy of that order of your divorce decree order,

and I would serve that on the other parties, your opposing parties, letting you know that the that the father,

has relinquished his,

parent

status.

He doesn't want anything to do with that.

And then provide them a certified copy of his of David that was in the court record.

So, you know, he's already relinquished all his rights to the child.

And then, you know, I'd have to look at some some documents but,

you know, if they're refusing to give your child back and they don't have a good cause,

like abuse or whatever,

then they've stolen your property. And I forgot who it was. Was it Carl

who had had some success with basically

challenging,

through the court,

challenging CPS that they stole

the parents' property. Now the parent would go in and represent themselves,

and they would say, this is my property. Give it back.

I'm pretty sure that's in Sarah's story and that's what she used. And we're not big back. No. Not Sarah. No. There was somebody else who's kinda got it. This is kinda their little niche is child protective

services.

And I I wanna say it was Carl what's his last name? I don't know. Out in Utah?

Young Carl?

No. I thought he was out on the East Coast.

Lance. Lance.

Oh, Lance. So that he wasn't with us. He's just another real good attorney guy. He's up in Michigan, I think. Yeah. He was a he's a legal researcher.

He's not an attorney.

And,

but it seems like he was having success with,

doing that. The other thing too, I think he could probably

follow some of Joe Lustica's

experience with his traffic ticket and, you know, you can look at doing,

potentially a writ of prohibition.

If you see something in the law that says they got to do a certain thing, the government agency, and they don't do it,

you can petition a higher court

and demand that they do what they're supposed to do under

under law.

And they can get in trouble if they don't do that.

Same thing with

a writ of mandamus and a writ of prohibition.

A writ of prohibition means stop doing this, you're not authorized to do that by law.

A writ of mandamus says you must do this

under

the law.

Yep. So and then

the other thing too, Roger, when when you tell people to mail it in, mail their affidavit into the secretary of state, I'm please tell them it's in Washington, DC because every state has a secretary of state's office and,

you know, I'd I'd like to follow-up with secretary of state.

Of America had that happened before.

Yeah. Because the secretary has said nothing but give open businesses, corporations, etcetera. They're gonna say, do you have an account with us? You owe us some money. Yeah. What about fees?

And it has nothing to do with them. So we shift it to the attorney general because they're the head law official in the state and all the people Right. Go ahead, Mark.

Right. Right. So,

anyway, I, you know, you just got an uphill fight.

I would still do my affidavits for my children because

it it's not gonna hurt a thing. Well, it sounds like she can. She got full well, if she got full custody, she can.

Yeah. Yep. So I mean.

Anyway, I would I would look at at go ahead and doing that

and and and as you're the sole parent with full rights.

And you can also attach that

Certified

copy of the court order has a lot of power.

And the same thing with certified copy

of the father's affidavit.

So that backs up everything that you're trying to tell these other parties.

And if you may get full custody of the children, which it sounds like you have,

then that that court order and a certified copy of the court order and a certified copy of the father's affidavit

should be all it takes for them to not no longer consider

transferring the daughter to the husband in a different state.

Okay. I don't know how they get the daughter in a different state right now. What what authorizes them to take them take her out of

Oh, Linus. Linus moved. Okay. Linus moved from Texas to Oklahoma. Linus,

this is something you need to write down.

K? So pen, pencil, or keyboard,

strawman,strawman,@mark,allcaps,

doesn't have to be in all caps, mark, all caps,

dot com.

Strawman@mark,allcaps,.com,

and you'll get Mark's email. So remember, he's real busy. He's got a lot of stress on him right now with his parents and the situation. Okay?

But that's how you get ahold of Mark should you need to when he's not on the show. K?

Okay. Thank you. May I say something? Paul. Roger. I wanna hold on. I've been trying to call him for a half hour.

Okay. Good. Paul then. Go ahead.

K. I don't know if I would,

if I would bring the affidavit that the father filed

to light right away,

because

that might force CPS to switch directions

and,

plan to just put the daughter in foster care Good day. And not even consider sending the daughter to him. And in the event that they did send the daughter to him, he's already relinquished

any parental rights to the child,

and she has

the divorce decree granting her full custody.

So

she already has in her possession everything she would need to get the daughter from him.

Hopefully. What a mess.

And,

let's see. What else? Oh my god. I I had so many things to say over the last half hour.

Well, let Mur talk a minute. We'll come back to you if you remember. Mur, what do you got?

Oh, thank you.

Greetings, Linus. Nice to hear you, and it's kinda family like here.

And, your daughter is how old?

16.

She's 16. And just to clarify,

that affidavit that he signed to relinquish his rights, he gave to CPS, but the the judge refused to grant him the,

removal.

That's his right.

And and where is the daughter now? In which state?

Yeah. You know what this is? You know what you're dealing with? You're dealing with administrative

court.

Yeah. And she's in she's in Houston, Texas. She's in a residential treatment center right now, and they are not

good to her.

But her dad, when she went to visit him last summer, he threw her out. So I can't even believe that they're gonna send her back there. Oh, dear. It does have shades of Sarah's story going on there. But, what I wanted to say is, Roger, what is it you say how they'll get us with words? Right? How what?

They'll get us with words. I don't know how to say that. If I can recite this.

Sticks and stones can break my bones,

but words can just enslave me.

Excellent.

Well, what I hear here, and I've heard it before and I've talked about it.

To begin with,

the line is says I had my children

taken by c b c p s c p s, the procurement

services.

And, we're taking

spells on ourselves. We never used to conjugate the words like that. We would say, my children were taken from me.

We would never say I had my children. You see what I'm saying?

They kind of do this. Words we use create a reality. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. And they've got us saying this. I've heard this from other people whose children were taken. I had. As if it's

brownie points in a victim society or something we've got from Jews. I don't know. But Well, it is. If you're

had a property right on them, and they could do anything they want. That's what she and her family and others don't know that we're trying to get the word out so we can take these bastards down.

They're slave And I'm not just saying this I'm not just saying this to Linus. I'm saying this to everybody because there's a large audience here. There's when there were 63 when I came in. And it's very important because like I said, I've heard this before. We just commonly say I had I had when it's not, we're taking responsibility

for something that was done to us. Now, Myrtle, let me even take that a step further.

This is what happens when we use the wrong definition on these words where they've implanted a dialectic.

I say, well, I need some money.

Well, it's not money.

Money's gold and silver, Bitcoin, land, etcetera.

This is debt. It's currency.

So the minute you say money,

you've enforced their scam. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Mhmm.

K. So this is how when I tell you go a day,

one day. I used to say a week. Go one day and every time you catch yourself using the word money,

stop and substitute the word currency.

Or if you've already used it and realized it after it, go back and restate it and use the word currency.

You will see

how Babylonian,

Pavlovian

conditioned

we are.

Right. Right. And it really, really helps us to use the right form of speech. Yep. And, I mean, even referring to others. She had her children taken. You know, it's just it's embedded in us. And they do this so easily. They manipulate us into casting spells on ourselves. This little trick

of using an opposite definition. And then when you use that word, you're creating that reality.

Yeah. If you correct yourself in dealing Children were kidnapped

by the state.

Just excuse me. Right. You can say kidnap.

But I'm

I'm saying just change it around. They were taken from me, not I had.

Take yourself out of that equation.

I yield.

Okay.

Lisa was in there. Paul's probably remembered something else. Hell, I hope you're strapped in there, Linus. Go ahead, Paul.

Okay.

Because I've been trying to get in here for about a half hour, this was a topic that was being covered a half hour ago.

But it but it's important and it bears,

stating.

If you're challenging jurisdiction in a court, the judge is gonna lie right to your face, and he's gonna say, I have jurisdiction.

But he's not gonna say what jurisdiction.

The or the only court that the jurors or the only jurisdiction the court has is the jurisdiction to determine whether or not they have jurisdiction.

So if he says I have jurisdiction,

and he means I get to decide whether I have jurisdiction or not, and you drop the challenge,

bang, you gave him jurisdiction.

If he says I have jurisdiction,

ask him,

for the record,

what

jurisdiction

do you have?

It's either the jurisdiction to determine whether or not he has it

or in personam jurisdiction, which means he has authority over you, the person,

or subject matter jurisdiction,

he has authority over the subject matter of the case.

Because when you get him to say

what jurisdiction he has, then you can immediately counter that with an with an objection

because you already have facts and evidence because you've already filed the paperwork

in the case.

So

don't just take them at their word. They are lying

pieces of crap. Especially with her because she's not gonna be the judge. She's dealing with an administrative

judge that's on the CPS circuit. The judge probably gets a kickback out all that money that's greasing the skits also.

Exactly. And the one more thing gonna happen.

I just wanna add, I'll get out of here. I'm praying for you and your family. And, you can go now by gas. You're in commerce. There you go. Now, Linus, are you familiar with baby Cyrus up in Idaho

couple of years ago? Can I say one more thing quickly before she answers that?

Yeah. I guess so. The reason

that people come

to the radio ranch with problems is because they don't know anything's wrong until their ox gets gored.

That's why they show up with baggage.

Well, you're so wrapped up in the tsunami and molasses that you can't get out.

Okay? Okay. No. I'm done. See, what we try and do here is preempt everything

because that's the only way you beat them cleanly. Once you dancing with them like you are lioness, boy, it's damn hard to get out of that dance.

K?

So we try and do everything preemptively. You've got these problems because you didn't find us or we didn't find you soon enough.

Right.

Okay? Now Baby Cyrus. Question.

Baby Cyrus in Idaho, do you remember that case couple years ago?

I I it sounds familiar, but I don't remember it off the top of my head. Child child of a patriot was a grandchild

of one of the patriots up there. It's pretty well known.

And I don't remember which of the one of the guys it was, but he was associated with one of those things in Nevada, like the ranches and all those skirmishes they had. The Bundy ranches. Sorry about that. Bundy ranches. I think it's one of the Bundy's grandchildren.

And they snatched it.

I don't remember all the specifics on why. It was a weird situation,

and they didn't know anything about this. And so they wrapped it up. She was breastfeeding, and they were claiming the baby wasn't healthy.

Okay. And the baby was healthy, but it wasn't big and fat like they get on formula. Yeah.

See, lioness, you get this is like the Radio Ranch AI.

We just asked the a myr, k, or anybody else.

We've got as big a resources

grunge

or whatever it is. Regardless,

they didn't know any of this stuff, and they got up in front of an administrative judge. She was a Jew.

And you know damn well they're getting a kickback out of this too. So the this is for the audience, especially for Todd's stuff. This is this administrative state. This is what we call the deep state. It's not a court. It's not a district court. It's an administrative

tribunal.

That's what Lyoness is locked up in.

K?

So, Lyoness, I'm

I know we've given you a drink big drink of water out of a fire hydrant here.

Can we simplify and say that you've got

a a lot of this, at least what you needed out out of this discussion?

Yeah. So, I mean, my I have been studying

since I mean, like, really, really studying, learning this stuff and even all about the title four since

January.

Again, you can study till the cows come home. And if you don't study the right stuff, you don't know jack shit.

Right.

Okay? So it doesn't matter how long you've been studying. It matters what you've been studying.

Yeah. So I've learned a lot about the title four funding fraud, and I'm really hoping that I can use that to try to I mean, to try to get my daughter home. Uh-huh. I did the status update for all of us, so, hopefully, it has some kind of power, and hopefully, it changes things. But I know that the the big part is actually getting them to enforce enforce

it. So hopefully, after I send notices to all the other

places, that'll help. Okay. Well, let me just tell you here about this because you I wanna straighten you out on this.

When you file this paperwork you already have,

disregarding

your daughter's situation, just for you,

the world doesn't change.

Nobody's gonna stop and congratulate you. Nobody's gonna try and buy you a drink

in celebration.

None of that's gonna happen.

The world doesn't change.

So if there's gonna be any change,

it's got to be you.

So the more you input

correct information and have understanding

to get to a point where at least a minimum

that you can defend your position if it's challenged,

and you can turn around and help explain it to other people

to buttress your position.

Because it's like John Benson used to say on that stage in those seminars.

He'd say, lioness,

the only way I can protect your liberty

my liberty is to help you protect yours.

So we're a family that grows

on self protection.

And the more people we get that are up to speed and with us, the stronger we become. It's like the fasci,

that little symbol behind

the podium in the senate where it's got it's a Roman symbol where it's got all the reeds with the little ax

sticking out the end, that's the fascii.

And that's for strength for many reeds.

And that's what we're doing. Okay?

So those and the more you get that information

correct

that's in there,

now because what's happened is the big picture here I don't know if you're spiritual or not.

The big picture here Yeah. I am. Okay. Well, the big picture here

is Esau Edom has tricked us into getting his birthright back.

And what you're doing when you file the affidavit is you're taking it back away.

They've tricked you into giving Esau Edom the birthright

by you answering those two questions

and all this stuff they did

from the mid eighties on up to when they flipped the switch in '33.

K? Then the then the whole system changed. And because it's the feudal system and everyone was put into that fourteenth amendment condition with the property right on them, just like they were saying earlier. Now every time a child is born, it's born into the same condition.

Exactly as if you had a bull and a cow out behind your house in a pasture, they have a calf, that calf is yours.

Same principle.

And because it has to be voluntary,

that's the big hurdle they had to cross to that's why they turned everything around to ask you questions.

Everything's got to be voluntary.

The constitution

says

that they can't impair the ability to contract.

With contract

is if you were contracting your services in bondservant.

So that's a contract. They can't impair that. It's voluntary.

In the thirteenth amendment, neither slavery nor involuntary

servitude shall exist in a state unless a person has been duly convicted, yada yada.

Voluntary

servitude is left out

because they can't take your rights away,

but you can give them away.

So this is the condition they've got you in and everyone,

And then they

solidify it

by asking you the two leading questions.

Are you a citizen of The United States?

Well, notice they don't say,

are you a citizen of The United States or a national?

So there's there's lack of full disclosure.

That's the first layer of fraud.

Underneath that, notice

they don't ask you. Have you ever been asked, are you a resident of Texas? Are you a resident of Oklahoma?

They don't.

They just ask you, are you a resident?

Because you don't understand, you're telling them that you're a fourteenth amendment citizen and under the laws of Washington, DC,

federal, and the fourteenth amendment.

And then you sign that

giving them plausible deniability

that, well, hell, we ask her what she was.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. A girl is sharp as lioness.

Hell, she ought to know what she is.

See how this is all structured?

It's not difficult. You don't have to go into complex shit. You don't have to go out into the universe

and try and pull theories and attach them with dots that look like they might be right.

None of those things

affect that condition

of being assigned

a property at birth and represented

by a warehouse receipt. That's why they put it in a bank safe.

And then it's attached

to the bonds

that are the debt. The I think we what? Just crossed

37,000,000,000,000

this week already?

37,000,000,000,000.

That's an outstanding debt in the bond market where these birth certificates are attached

for three months, six months, five year, ten year, twenty year, thirty year. Even now they're talking fifty year bonds.

So all they're doing is taking your

future labor,

and they're advancing it out and securitizing it and collateralizing

it to the debt of the country.

So what happens

when you file this paperwork,

the best I can tell,

two things happen

immediately

and simultaneously.

One

is you become free.

A dream Now, I mean, the the importance of this.

Todd, I don't know that we've gone over this with your people

because people say, well, what's a big deal about that? So what does it make any difference?

Right? Have you heard that? I'm sure you have.

Now, Bob's here with me, so I'm gonna have to defer to him a bit.

But in the entire history of the world,

the first two hundred years of Rome,

and with the exception Bob says then they're wandering off in the forest and stuff, I'd like to simplify this,

Two hundred years of Rome

and two hundred years of our country,

those are the only times in the history of the entire planet of civilization

that men have had God given rights.

Now if that's not important to you,

well, that's fine, but they're important to me.

Okay?

And so if nothing else, you've got that.

Secondly,

when you get your freedom,

the dialectics here are beautiful. When you get your freedom, they're automatically

exposed.

You can't get your freedom without them being automatically

exposed.

So those two things, bam, same time.

Now what you've got to do

is get in your new freedom and start doing things like

I gotta catch myself when I'm using these words

because I'm creating a reality. I wanna use the word currency. I don't wanna use the word money. I don't wanna use the word citizen of The United States. I wanna use The United States Of America.

If somebody asked me, am I a resident? I'm gonna ask them, are you imputing a geographical or a political definition to that term?

And do things and present this dialectic that's enslaved you your whole life that you're now out of. And now you're gonna expose it. And that's one way you expose it to people.

K? Because you start using the correct definitions on the correct words.

So those two things happen automatically,

but then you've got to input this information.

Just because,

lioness,

just because the word free is in the word freedom,

it ain't free.

At go go ask Thomas Jefferson of the founding fathers. Those who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be.

Same here.

You're only as free as you can defend your position because there's a bunch of them that are gonna test you if they get the chance, and they're gonna try and trick you sometimes, especially in your condition and position.

So you

have got to be the change. And the only way that happens

is by learning the information. I wish it for you particularly,

I wish we could do this. I could record it, put this under your pillow, and tomorrow you'd know everything. Well, that ain't gonna happen. Sorry.

Wish it was.

You've got to go back. You've already been studying. You just haven't been studying people that knew what they're talking about. We're dealing with some really slick son bitches here. Satan is one deceitful

piece of garbage, And that's these people's marching master. Okay? And boy, they go to incredible

lengths here. Although it's very simple.

On the surface, it's just a bait and switch.

But boy, when you get into these minutiae's of how this has been done and what these definition of words are and how this equivocation

stuff works. And you gotta undo kind of all of that to get back to the area and go, well shit, this is simple.

It's real simple. They ask you a question. It was a leading question. You know, if you're like Perry Mason,

objection, leading question,

fraud.

Are you a citizen of The United States or are you a national? That's what they need to ask you,

but they didn't. So and there's layer upon layer upon layer of fraud here. And these are some real ugly people.

And for you to get to a level where you can stand toe to toe with the biggest, baddest son of a bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth, because that's who we're dealing with here. The biggest, baddest, richest son of a bitches of Satan's shit that have ever walked the face of the earth is who we're dealing with. And lioness,

we beat them

just like David did Goliath.

We beat them with one stone

placed right in the right place. A dagger to their heart, their scheme, their fraud, all of the negative slavery,

lying, thieving,

all the crap that you can assign to them.

One

sentence

on one piece of paper

to one guy.

That's all it takes, and they're totally defanged.

Totally.

The only thing they can do

is to take the mask off and come at you, and then they're open tyrants. And they'll never do that because they know what happens to open tyrants.

As John Benson would say, they know history, and they know the bible one hell of a lot better than we do.

And he was right.

You know, the old Jorge Santillana,

those who

failed to learn their lessons from history are destined to repeat them. You know, that old old saying, lioness. I'm sure you've heard it. Those who don't learn their lessons from history are destined to repeat them. Right?

But John said Or you're gonna be going around the same mountain over the top of the mountain. Let me tell you how my law teacher stated that. Those who do learn their lessons from history can repeat it over those who don't in half the time.

True.

And so that's what we're doing. We're catching up, and there's a lot of catching up to do, a lot of things we've never even known. And I wouldn't know these to tell and teach you if I didn't have John w Benson as my law teacher.

He's just a brilliant man. Just somebody that just spent his whole life.

He's a, you know, not impressive, not

big Superman guy, short, portly.

He just studied the law his whole life because he liked it.

And he studied the old books.

And what they've done is they've controlled the curriculums of our law schools since before they officially took the country over in '33.

They've been taking control of an organization called the American Association

of Colleges and Law Schools,

so much so that they could move their annual convention

in 1933

to instead of Palm Springs to Chicago on New Year's Eve.

So that some Jew from the Department of Agriculture

could come give this speech telling them what they were planning on doing. It's called experimental jurisprudence

and the new deal, and you can go look it up on the Internet and read it. I I when I've discovered this,

I was doing shows with Al Attisk. I don't know if you know who he is or not or Al is still with us. And I I sent that to Al, and he said, he said, Roger, that's the most damning piece of government publication I've ever read.

It was that speech because the colleges and law schools could move their convention up there so he could give it to, no doubt, the one a handful of people there.

But they we gave it.

See, this is their plausible deniability

stuff.

So, anyway, that's, where we are. Your congratulations

on finding us and being part of Todd's group.

I'm sorry you got all these situational problems.

I don't know if we can help. If we can, we will, and

we'll advise you. If we do since seek to give you suggestions,

we'll give you the best we can. I just plugged you into Mark who's,

pretty good in this stuff. He's been a paralegal over twenty years.

And I'm grateful our paths crossed as well as everybody's.

You know?

Even Earth Linus, we'll see what we can do. We wish you the best and pray for you. Okay? But I will promise you, you've found the mother lode.

Put it as much as you can, put all that stuff

that is on the back burner.

And for now, learn our stuff. Alright. And you'll find a lot of that stuff doesn't apply and incorrect.

Okay. I've been running my mouth to my mouth. Line is Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Line is we go we Go ahead. Linus, we go through Rogers we go through Rogers website and process live almost every day on Discord.

You're always welcome to join.

Yep. And then they hang around till the wee hours of the night sometimes afterwards. So you got that to tap into too. So what you found here on top of your Todd family, you found your Radio Ranch family. K?

So welcome. Rochester.

Okay. Hold on. Somebody's wanting to tell you something. Is that Christian?

Yes, sir. Hey, Christian. Boy, you you got a good

you got a good ear, brother,

to to know these voices. Hey.

You started to tell

when you get that affidavit sent to the secretary of state and you said, and send it to every

who do you send it to, basically?

Okay. Well, it depends, I would say. And that depends on you. Do you want to remove yourself from IRS?

Christian? I don't have much problem with them at all. Well, do you wanna remove yourself from them anyway, whether you got problems from them or not? They're you know what IRS stands for. Amen. You know what IRS stands for? Yeah.

Individuals

represent Satan.

Yeah. Oh, wow.

Okay. That's good. That's good. So let's say you live down there in Texas on some property. I think you got any, you want to like build a pond out there and EPA has been giving you a bunch of crap. Well, you might wanna put them on notice. K?

Now if you do those guys,

I I and I people generally don't want to, but I was thinking about it. And if you're gonna do one of those other agencies,

you'll probably wanna do a little different chain of command when you put them on notice.

You'll wanna notice the head guy, the head of the agency.

You'll probably wanna cc the the regional director,

find out who he is.

You go down and cc the the district director,

if and find out who he is. And then if you know the agent's information, you cc him too. So it's a little bit different structure from the way I've thought it through, but you could do that with EPA

or or or any of them. You know?

So it's up to you Okay. With respect.

I've never thought of. I did think of one thing, though, that might be additional on the IRS one.

You cc your state

taxing authority.

Because, generally,

with very few exceptions I've ever found or am aware of,

What you owe on the federal, those numbers are carried over to the state

to compute the state income tax.

So if there's no federal

because you're out of their system and you don't have any of those other two, eight seventy seven, eight seventy one b taxes,

then you don't have anything to bring down to the state

form either.

So you wouldn't know anything there. I think it's a good idea for us to start,

having that cc'd from the state taxing authority

off of what your IRS notification

is because we have had a few situations, no, not many, where people

cross paths with the state taxing authority

and there was wrong information given and stuff. So this may alleviate any of those problems, and I think it'd just be a good idea. K?

So then Thank you very much. You're you're welcome. And then you go back to the state. And, I mean, you could how many people do you wanna notify?

You you hell, you could send these emails out like like a like ballot, like they send out illegal ballots,

Christian.

And,

go ahead.

What about the environmental?

That that would be, you know, that they they put this,

managing your sewage system as a aerobic system, and then they'll charge you

every year for, for

having to keep that up. And that's for your septic tank?

Uh-huh. That's that's actually the new one, the aerobic system. Okay. So they kind of put you in charge. Well, you ought to be relieved of that tax for one thing because those are man made laws that are regulatory

enforced, and they don't reply to you anymore.

That's right. They wanna lose them on notice. K?

Say I'm not responsible for this tax, and I'm not paying it anymore.

And just but then again, see, when you make this change,

you're you're really stepping forward and going,

I wanna be personally responsible.

And so if that's what you're saying, whether you are aware of that or not see, some people think, well, hell, I'll do this, and then I can just go speeding down Main Street at a 100 miles an hour on Saturday night. Well, that's not what this is for.

K?

And that's why I insist on

on it.

Yeah. That's why you know, the reason we use taxes is because everybody's

conscious of their pocketbook, and it's a common denominator

issue. And you get them in and the tax thing, you know, well, it's important, obviously,

but they get exposed because, see, it's the larger thing of liberty that's really important here. But it's hidden for a lot of people because they're like Goethe.

You know, Goethe's saying,

you you know Goethe was Christian?

German guy?

I don't think so. G o e r t e t h e, I think is how they spell it. He was a philosopher

along back then

with the

Hegel and some of those folks. He wrote a very famous

opera called Faust,

you may have heard of, about a kid that makes a deal with the devil.

Gerta's famous Oh, yeah. Famous saying

is and this is where they've got us. See?

There are none so catch the adjectives here.

There are none so helplessly

enslaved

as those who falsely

believe they are free.

There are none so helplessly

enslaved

as those who falsely believe they're free. Now folks, that right there is where the hell they've had us.

Wow.

You know, you was talking about Alice in Wonderland and and and,

and and the guy mixed it up with, Wizard of Oz. And then I just thought in Tombstone,

when they did that play in Tombstone,

with Val Kilmer,

says she's coming to he's coming to make a deal with the devil. Well, I tell you, you're putting it all together, brother. Well, it's all right in front of you. You just gotta be able to pull those pieces together.

And that's why I work on a conceptual approach because it's easier for most people to take these big pieces and put those pieces together than go in and learn a bunch of minutiae. If you wanna learn a bunch of minutiae later, that's great. But I'm trying to get you things that confuse you out of the way initially.

K?

So once you yeah. Once you wanna do something else, you can do it. I'm not telling you not to. Yeah, Larry.

Yeah. I just like to add to your list another nationality that has god given rights besides those of Roman America. Do you know who they are?

No. I I don't have any idea. Bob thinks his people wandering in a desert. What do you got?

American Samoans. That's what you've always told us. Yeah. But they've been been around two hundred years yet.

I think they were acquired around the turn of the last century.

Nineteen o one to be specifically. But they're not a big organized society. They're a little island

with just a few people. You know you cannot fly to American Samoa on a one way airline ticket?

They require anyone coming to have a leave

route and and already.

So that's how small they are down there, Larry.

And we are small to the effect that we just got a couple of seconds left in the broadcast.

So see you tomorrow on Friday with Brent. Bye.

Alright.

Now, lioness, the after show

begins.

And there ain't no damn telling how long that'll go.

Oh, probably about an hour.

Somehow Oh, I thought we had Eli today.

Yeah. He's dry. He hasn't connected yet.

Okay.

Yeah. He was with us for over an hour yesterday in the after show.

Oh, is he?

Yeah. We were we were talking about all kinds of things.

Mhmm. So let me go back to Lioness here. You're this feature of the whole program today, which I just love,

and new people getting introduced to what we do and helping you

achieve some discernment

on what's real and what's not

so you can properly plot your course

with no aberrations.

Okay?

And so,

thank you for coming and nice to meet you. And I hope you'll be back, and I hope you found some family here

And maybe even some answers and some clarity even though your situation is quite clouded.

And,

so did you have anything else you wanted to ask us while you were here today?

I think you covered everything.

I really appreciate you. Thank you for,

letting me ask you questions. I know that you're busy. I've listened in a couple times. I just

hadn't spoken out yet. So Well, do you have a over here. Well, let me just really explain it to you. I'm here for you.

The reason I'm here is you and Todd and and

Terry and Mary and,

Julie and Paul, everybody. We're just one big family. And see, what you're gonna find is

the we're a very small group. I don't know why,

but we're

this message

resonates with a relatively small percentage of the populace.

And so we're tickled to death when we find some new people. And we come in here to this family because you can't just go out and talk to

people about this.

You you can't, you know, at the at the grocery store. You can't hey. Well, you could drop little little nuggets, you know, like, hey. Do you know there's two types of citizenship in this country?

And then when you go in there over a period of time, you build up, some sort of conversation with a clerk maybe that you got to be relate you know, related with and,

all I anyway,

this is a place we can all gather

and discuss these really

sometimes complex

facets of real truth.

What you have found

is the mother lode vein to my knowledge in the world

of pure truth right here.

So congratulations.

And I believe thank you, Roger, for bringing this to us and Paul English.

You're never gonna find

a forum like this Uh-huh. Where, like, it was said at points, there was a little over 60 people.

Everyone

there has a potential to open their mic at any time and chime in. And as you experienced a couple times, sometimes we get a little excited, and you'll have a few of us jump in at once,

but we usually are very respectful

of each other,

step back, let whoever speak.

But it's so unique and and Yeah. So refreshing,

and all of us are really just looking for truth. And I always recognize,

if I can, the ladies first lioness.

Because if I didn't, my late mother

would

whip my ass, basically.

So, anyway,

we just got protocols. Just trying when you got you got a question, raise your hand or you can butt in and say, hey, Roger,

whatever.

But, Todd, any of your other group got any questions today? We were so,

narrow,

paying attention to lying us here as a new new little person around.

Anybody else got I think the they'll I think we I let them know all the time to jump up. I think they're pretty content because they're familiar with quite a bit and just learning more like myself each day. But we're in there after your show. You do almost every day live in the Discord,

only going through your your way and, your your website and so forth. So anybody's welcome. Thank you, Roger, so much. And you you

can go off on other stuff. You know, Brian was trying to bring some of that birth certificate stuff in. I don't agree with that, but I'm not gonna tell Brian not to study it if he wants to. But just get the basics down. And then what you'll be able to do is things that come along like that, you should be able to pair them and find out which is the truth.

But you've got a baseline now. Okay? And I guarantee you this one's true and is pride and is proven with the enemy for

fifteen years with not one blemish on our record to my knowledge.

K. So that's what you found. Congratulations.

Yeah. Larry? Yes, sir?

Yeah. Maybe now's a more appropriate time to ask my two questions. Speaking of Brian,

who is he a part of Todd's group? What are his credentials, and has he had any

personal successes with his own court cases?

He has a success with a traffic court case. That's how we got to be kinda

reconnected. Brian was one of the early guys years and years ago who heard me on,

on Joyce Riley,

then searched me down and went through the process

and has done a couple of very ballsy things. He's probably not with us now. I don't know. He's done a couple of ballsy things that helped us very early on. Remember me telling the story about the birth certificate

in Idaho

all the way up to the director of transportation for the state of Idaho and the exchange?

And they found out in the very last one, he never would sign one. There's three of them and told us that, well, we can only issue a driver's say the issue driver's license to someone who's a resident. That was the big secret.

K? That was Brian.

And the hospital thing in Austin, that was Brian.

So Brian's big a big big contributor around here because he validated the thesis.

I don't know if I can validate the the feudalism

thesis any better than what the hospital told him in Austin.

Hey, Raj. One other way. One other way.

Cyrus, what was the tragedy and hope?

Carol Quigley

Yep. Who was allowed into the CFR's

private files for two years. And in that book, he says the world's financial powers

met in in secret

annually or semiannually

and structured the world's financial system

in a feudalist

fashion.

I I don't know how much more validated you can get. You can't have a feudalist fashion

financial system globally

without having service.

Right. So Hey, Raj.

Yes.

One thing that, they gave Brian by not giving it to him

was they gave him the determination

that they won't give him

a driver's license

because he's not qualified to have one. He's not a resident.

So they can't

run him up a flagpole upside down

for not having a driver's license

when

the state's own attorney said, nope. We can't give a nonresident Nope. A driver's license. It was the head of transportation.

It wasn't the AG.

So head of transportation

in the state of Idaho.

And, long long years ago and I suggest now, you know, that

the traffic thing can be such a nightmare

at times.

Just,

you know, I'd if you wanna fight that battle,

you know, I I'm not gonna tell you not to.

If you're that full of piss and vinegar

and you wanna go

jousting at windmills in many

situations,

but even Brian would tell you now ten years later

that he wouldn't do it.

He was just full of piss and vinegar back then.

He said, now I just wouldn't do it. I'll try and comply with the traffic and all that stuff. It's just not worth what you gotta put up. If you do win,

they win because they've stolen your life for you to get a win that doesn't make a whole bunch of difference, really.

Right.

Your decision,

but I'm trying to warn you. And doesn't create precedent.

Uh-huh. I Ryan wasn't around for years, Larry.

I don't know where he picked up some some of the stuff that he's talking about now,

but, you know, I know that it's not a b e r t h certificate.

And he proved it with his example, his own experience

at the hospital.

I I see, I still believe

if I might, I still believe based on

how they hold

those,

you know, in the basement under armed guards.

I don't know why he he associates it with the b e r f as as you say.

But I I think him doing that is is, you know, is why he put so much credence into that document

being

a a always been hung up on the birth

he's always been hung up on the birth certificate.

He was doing trying to do stuff on his own.

That's when he went to his children and went to this approach with the hospital.

And it does not

it does not

represent the nexus.

You being born. It doesn't say in the fourteenth amendment, all persons born with a birth certificate.

It says all persons born.

Okay?

And the birth certificate

represents the condition.

It does not create

the nexus.

And the proof I agree with you. Article.

Proof is that article from England with the nurse tell that newborn baby that they were swabbing

did not have a birth certificate.

I promise you.

But the baby's their property.

What would you?

So so, Roger, what would you say about so it's not a nexus of the condition

of of involuntary

servitude and the serfdom. Voluntary.

Not involuntary. Voluntary. Okay. Voluntary. Sorry. I misspoke there. But what about it

I mean, it's very, very strongly tied into the monetary system. Of course. Well, that's the way. The

warehouse receipt is the answer.

It's the only answer. It doesn't they don't have to haul your ass around Wall Street saying, you wanna buy some some of her their future labor, do you?

They just they do it all with paper.

And they do it just like everything else from the start. What's the start?

Your feet come out of mama's birth canal. Now under

their person, fourteenth amendment, you've got rights, civil rights. That's why they can't kill you. Although they'll try they're trying to get it too. Okay? Yeah. But trying.

They're trying. But that document, it allows them to do this all flawlessly under the surface.

It's a warehouse receipt. It represents you. That's the legal court rulings.

The paper

takes on the qualities

of the good,

a ball bale of cotton or a person,

and the bale of cotton or a person

take on a shadowy

existence

in relation to the paper.

That's the commercial definition and usage. It's got fantastic valid uses.

They just know this commercial law because they're the merchants and the merchants of the earth. What other law you think they're gonna use? They use the merchant law.

We call it the UCC.

And they know all these old quirks and quimmies where they can take these things and weaponize them.

And here,

they use this warehouse receipt. It's also a birth certificate.

It's got Alicia, you're the ones that looked up when we this was a while back. You looked up

on search and said there there were states that had birth certificates

before the feds did.

Well, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yep. Yep. K? I But I guarantee you in that capacity,

they were birth certificates, and I doubt that they were using them as collateral.

The states were. But, boy, when the bankers got control

and they can see how this fit into their scheme

of backing the entire financial system.

These are the requisites

that create credit.

They've got something to sell, and, therefore,

they've got to pay back with interest.

So it's

it's just the way to me as plain as the nose on your face if that's what's going on here.

But, boy, would you get you're having these drug huge groups of people, I guess, that get out there and have meetings, and and members

think that the birth certificate is the

document

that creates the nexus.

It does not. It represents

the nexus.

You're right.

Yes.

Some of the things that Brian was saying, and I'm not I'm not agreeing with him. I'm just

I'm just mentioning some of the things he was saying. The doctor,

the water, the ward, the hospital.

It doesn't so much have anything to

do with admiralty

or merchant law.

It has to do with contracts

because your admission

paperwork

that you signed,

You signed yourself into their care

so they can make life and death

decisions

on your care. Well, you did well, you were you were there before you could sign anything. It's when your feet came out of mama's canal, you had all that.

Right. But you're also creating a definite contract between you and the hospital.

And you don't get your full rights Can can can we please just stick to basics and not bring this stuff in there? But you you don't get your full rights back until you are discharged

from the hospital.

Hey. Can I say something? Yes, ma'am. Please.

Okay. So I,

I have a friend that well, she's someone that I recently met that is going through a situation where she had the state,

forced her to relinquish her rights on one child,

And, she was pregnant.

They, like, literally had fraudulent doc documents

on her.

And

I told her, like,

about a month ago, hey. You need to start listening to this guy. You need to do your status change before this baby gets born. And she did not listen partially because

her, husband

was not on board with the whole status change thing. He was afraid of it.

And they went from Texas to

Missouri to have the baby.

And I was like, no. That do not go to Missouri. That's a huge title for funding,

state. You need to go to a small town in, like, Arkansas or somewhere where they don't have a huge

where they don't have a whole lot of title four funding, fast tracking, and fraud being committed.

And she ended up at Mercy Hospital in Arkansas. And

three days after her baby was born, they came in and took the baby, and she refused the Social Security card, the birth certificate, everything.

And so now I've also been trying to help her fight to get her baby back. She can't. But, anyway, I just wanted to mention that. So you're right. They somehow got something. Well, I yeah. Let me ask you a question. I've never heard of title four funding. You've mentioned it about 10 plus times.

I'm

a open the door here. What is title four funding?

So it's through the Social Security Administration.

It's, something that,

Bill and Hillary Clinton

it's an act that they did through the children through, it's through title four of the Social Security Act.

And it's where they get these CPS workers get bonuses. They get

all kinds of thing all kinds of monetary bonuses to remove kids out of homes. And every time a child gets moved Well, I know what that is. Yeah. And I know that happens. Okay?

So but you're telling me not every state

allows CPS in there to ravage their federal citizens?

No. They do. Well, I don't know about I mean, apparently, from what I understood from Sarah's story that once you're a national, they don't have jurisdiction. Well, they don't. They don't. But they're in all 50 states. Missouri is not exempt. You told them not to go to Missouri. No. But to my knowledge,

well, this is federal.

This is federal, and they're dealing with federal citizens of which almost everybody is under presumption of being one.

So Right.

So what I had what I had told this girl to do was to go come to Oklahoma where I am and to wait until she was in full blown labor and then go to the Indian hospital, but she didn't listen. And her husband wanted her to go to a big hospital, and Mercy Hospital is notorious

for fast tracking CPS cases for removals.

I had recommended that she go to a small town in Arkansas,

far away from any big town to have the baby. That way, she could avoid

the the removal, but Yeah. She went to a huge hospital. Well, it's too bad she didn't have the husband on board. She could've done it at home with a Beulah,

or what the call Exactly. And I recommended that too. Yeah. I recommended that too.

Well, do you know as, as, doctor,

what was her name? Doctor Sarah,

the gal used to have a talk show. We're all where we are because of choices we've made.

Yes.

K?

So she Laura Schwesterner.

Or she bad picked a bad husband or whatever.

Unfortunate. But she still can undo some of that for herself.

And, well, she probably can't do it for the baby without the husband's agreement. If he's scared of this,

you know, just

you can tell him there's never been any blowback on it to my knowledge in fifteen years. I'm not trying to sell you something, so I'm not lying to you. Okay?

Yeah.

Hey, Roger.

Yeah. We're we're also always yeah. Okey dokey.

We're also here because of choices other people have made for us that we had no knowledge of. Well, I guess you could say that's true too, but I'm talking about adults.

How are you doing Eli?

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, us adults allow people to make choices for us on a on unwittingly. Right? Yeah. I got a new I got a new nickname for you.

Okay.

Amicus Eli.

There you go.

Yeah. I've been prowling around the courthouse.

Right?

Yeah. You didn't get any fleas over there, did you?

No.

No. But the the the stench is hard to remember. I like to appreciate that.

Yeah. You go through that, that that device that that, is supposed to, yeah, it's a metal detector. Right? Oh, wait a minute. Let me get let me kill a Telegram here. Uh-huh. Oh, well, that's whenever

Are you gonna go I have to see you.

Yeah. There we go. I have to quit Telegram because it makes noise when somebody

there we go. There we go. Okay. So

yeah.

So, so I've I've filed another amicus brief.

The first one was accept. I'm not sure if this one has been accepted yet, but it probably will be

because, you know, they already have filed one of mine, and,

the deadline for updates is the end of this month. Yeah. So, y'all, you're ahead of the deadline. Boy, that's good. Commendation.

Yeah.

Just make sure, Todd

Todd, do you and your bunch know about Eli here?

I don't know. We have no, I haven't met him.

Oh, okay. Eli, this is a new one of our interviews across the group with a number of people in it and they like what we got to say. They've been hanging out over here. Right. And, the kind of the leader of it is this fellow right here named Todd. So Todd meeting you. Okay. He's he's all spiritual. Hi. And, so Not a leader. Business lead. Nice to meet you, Eli.

Yeah. Yeah.

So anyway, Eli is one of the guys that helped start all this few years back.

And, we owe him a great deal of thanks for that.

You might wanna give them a little background on what you're filing these things for because they don't Yeah. Been exposed to this.

Yeah. Okay. So the first amicus brief I filed, because, you're probably all familiar to Donald Trump

is trying to institute

the International

Holocaust Remembrance Alliance

definition

of antisemitism

as a I don't know if he's trying to try to make it law, which it can't be a law because

the first amendment is totally opposed

to anything that forces

free you know,

forced speech upon us. Put it that way. Okay?

And so but it's

as an executive order,

as I understand executive orders, Roger, maybe you can correct me, that it would apply to federal employees,

but not become,

federal law. I I How do you understand that? It's probably true, Eli, but I don't know Okay. Sure, and I've never really studied it. I think the original executive orders

were done by Washington,

and they were for his cabinet officials.

Uh-huh. Okay.

Well, if your entire cabinet and the government follows that, you're pretty much it's pretty much law. Right?

You'd be hard pressed as a as an individual.

Yeah. Okay? Here's for here's the line of definition now is we're

dealing with, of course, man made laws, which apply to federal citizens. K?

Yeah. There you go. There you go. So and, of course, we're all federal citizens if we allow it. Right? I gotta step away for a second. Be right back. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll just elaborate on my first one,

because it was an attempt by Donald Trump

to establish

the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism.

Okay?

And so my first amicus brief stated very clearly

that the word if you don't know what the word Shemite means,

how can you define the word antisemite?

And so if you go around the country,

even to a law office and ask you ask me, what does the word Shemite mean? Okay? And maybe I can just throw that out there for does anybody here know what the word Shemite means?

Descendants of Shem.

Descendants of Shem. That's ex bloodline of Shem. That's absolutely correct. That's what Do I get a cookie or a box of toffees?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, come on down here. I'll buy you a steak

Right. That's exactly what it means. Okay?

And

but, if you go to

Genesis twelve one through three

You'll find out. Well, abraham was a shemite

and he married, three women all of whose descendants are therefore Shemites.

That includes the descendant of Keturah,

Sarah,

and Hagar. They're all Shemites.

And these are the people to whom the prophecies

you will be nations and companies of nations,

and the world

will be blessed by you,

etcetera, etcetera. Okay? Well, none of these things have been fulfilled by Jews,

and Abraham was not a Jew. They try to tell us thanks to Scofield

that Abraham was a Jew. No. He was not. He was he was a Shemite.

And if the word Jew comes from the word Judah in the Old Testament,

then only the descendants of Judah could be called Jews.

Okay? But Judah was all but he never called himself a Jew. The Bible does not call any of those tribes Jews, and the Jew the word Jew does not appear in scripture until second Kings sixteen six

over a thousand years after

Yeah, after Moses

Okay, or I certainly after Abraham. Okay,

so that a false representation of the Jews representing themselves as semites

it's out

easily proven false. So so I basically argued if you don't have a clear definition of Shemite,

you can't have a clear definition of anti semite.

So what are we talking about here?

Okay. Who's an anti semite?

Okay. So it's it's legally vague,

and you can't have such vague language.

It's because they claim to be direct descendants

of Judah,

and they're not okay, and I labor elaborated on that as well. So Genesis twelve one through three the word Jew does not exist there and you cannot claim

to be,

Abraham was a Jew

That's a false claim. Yes. That was actually stated by Scofield first. C I Scofield was the first one to assert that. Okay?

Pastor Eli? Yeah. Yeah. This is Mark and the straw man in Oklahoma.

Hi, Mark. I was wondering as you were explaining this,

could it also not be challenged that,

the state is trying to implement a

religion

in violation of the first amendment also?

Because the things like they're going out of their way to

provide these protections against a specific religion,

and I think that could be said that they're actually implementing it.

They're trying to implement it. Right. And, this was the actually stated in the original filing by Darryl McClanahan

of Missouri.

I said you're you're infringing on our freedom of religion and freedom of speech

when you tell us we can't criticize Jews because it's antisemitism.

Well, they're not Shemites. Yeah. Right?

And you're violating the the First Amendment, both freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Okay?

So I wrote this amicus brief to clarify the issue. Well, who's a Semite? And if unless the Zionist can

define the word antisemitism,

legally,

it's a it's really a lost cause.

Yeah. Because you have to have exact definitions when you go to court.

Right.

Pastor Eli, what what

what is the title of the case that you're

writing the amicus brief? And is there a place that we can see it or download the brief? Yeah. Yeah. You can go to the the federal court records and the case number

is 3Colon25DashCVDash05025DashMDH.

I'll I'll type it into the chat area as well. Okay. Okay. That's the Thank you. That's the original filing by Daryl Leon McClanahan the third versus Donald j Trump. Okay?

And so Yes. Now and then in the in the second case,

I I basically say

that what's really going on here

is you're using a

what I found out was in fact, this is let me just start reading from my second,

and then I can type it in the chat room, those numbers in the chat room shortly.

But, comes now Eli James, a minister of the Christian identity faith and pursuant to federal rule of civil procedure 24,

respectfully moves this court for leave to file the attached amicus curiae brief number two

in support of plaintiff Darryl Leon McClanahan third.

In support of this motion, Eli James states to follow us. Okay.

We can oh, okay. Because this is important.

I am a minister within the Christian identity movement whose theological interpretations and expressions are directly implicated

by federal actions that may target specific religious viewpoints.

I possess a compelling interest in ensuring that executive orders thirteen

eight ninety nine and fourteen one eighty eight, and those are the executive orders by Trump,

Do not impermissibly

chill or penalize dissenting religious speech

by adopting an un American international statement on antisemitism,

namely the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's twenty sixteen statement.

This statement is an attempt to provide a legal definition

of antisemitism.

Okay?

So

so this attached amicus

curiae brief

addresses the following issues. I have to turn the page here.

Okay.

First amendment's protection of religious and political speech as you just brought up. Okay.

Where where's number two?

Hold on. I must have turned too many pages.

Oh, yeah. Proposed brief. Okay. Hatches.

Okay.

Okay. So testimony.

So in the in following the developments of the case filed by mister McClanahan against Donald Trump,

I was made aware of a recent amicus curiae filing by Mark Bachra,

a Coptic Christian on behalf of Daryl,

and, that, and he brought up this following point.

Said, namely,

that the

that the,

the the statement by the international

committee,

on antisemitism

stated

that

it's it's a lie

to say that the Jews killed Christ.

Okay. That's part of their definition of antisemitism.

Anyone who says that the Jews killed Christ is therefore an antisemite.

So I said, okay. I missed that the first time around.

So I decided well what I'm going to do

Is prove that the jews killed christ

and put it in a court record.

Okay?

So here we go

anyway from his brief, he says seeking both a declaratory and preliminary injunction against the IHRA definition

for its use of, quote,

Jews didn't kill Christ, unquote,

an endorsement a government endorsed viewpoint of discrimination against anyone who says so,

and the entire I AHRI definition is subject to APA. I'm not sure what APA means here.

Administrative Procedures Act.

Oh, okay. Very good. Very good. So, I mean, let let me just throw it out there.

Should you be

legally

subject to some fine or whatever by Donald j Trump

as a,

a federal citizen,

and it's gonna apply to federal citizens.

Then, if you Only. Yeah. Only. Only. Right? If you say the Jews killed Christ, should you be subject to harassment, legal legal penalties, or anything else?

Well, of course you shouldn't. But you if you're a federal citizen and you're under their control and jurisdiction,

and so therefore they can make these and apply them to you. That's the other half of why this is so important.

They tie the birth certificate. Eli, you probably heard some of that. Yes. I heard it. Yes. Original

credit spout. That's where, you know, you're there's no money. There's only credit. Well, that's where it comes from. Okay? And the other thing is now that they've got a property right in you, they can erect government agencies

in regulatory

configuration

and get unelected

bureaucrats

to reinterpret

legislation,

call public policy,

and apply it and enforce it on little

o u, the dumb That's right. Voluntary serve.

Yeah. So if you step out of line just as people stepped out of line with COVID,

the government's gonna come in and then jab you anyway.

You know, we got Todd. Todd is from Massachusetts. Well, I told you we had a little group of Boston guys there for a while, Lewis and a couple of his buddies. And during COVID,

he filed the affidavit,

and he had to go in the Federal Building. And he called the girl ahead of time and said, well, I'm a national. She was telling him stuff. He says, well, I'm a national. She said, oh, well, in that case, you don't have to wear a mask.

How about getting jabbed?

You don't have to get jabbed, do you? Oh, no. Of course not. But this is just going in the Federal Building.

So Right. That's good. And and and one of the clerks

told him the difference.

Okay.

You don't have to wear a mask. Between what? Between you and other people. They do have to wear a mask. Yeah.

Well, okay. Very good. Very good.

Wait. No. No. No. No. This is You know how I am.

Well, this is important stuff. If they can make you wear a mask, they can call you an antisemite for telling the truth. What what what's Voltaire?

Those who can make you believe absurdities

can make you commit atrocities?

There you go. Exactly.

Okay.

So so I decide, okay. Well, I can prove that the Jews killed Christ from from scripture very easily.

And so here we go. Okay.

New Testament verses that accuse the Jews not the Romans because how many millions of times have you heard the ADL and other Jewish organizations and rabbis

say the Romans killed Christ not the Jews.

Barabbas

Barabbas Right.

Right. Crucify him crucify him crucify him, right? They wanted Jesus. Okay. It wasn't the romans who wanted to kill Jesus. It was the jews as the bible clearly states. So, yeah, so

we said, okay. This is for the record number one in the four gospels. Matthew reports on how Herod king of the Jews

sought to kill baby Jesus, and I'll just cut to the place where the

the,

the people from,

not Sumeria from the Mesopotamia

who were the wise men,

were told by an angel, don't go back to Herod because he wants he wants to kill baby Jesus. So

we don't we don't we don't want you to tell him where Jesus is.

Okay? Is it Matthew two twelve?

And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod,

they departed into their own country another way. Okay? So that's the first clue that it was a Jews namely under Herod who wanted to kill baby Jesus

and other verses in Matthew that impugn the Jews are twenty six three three four Oh, I just won't bother all others. There's all kinds of I'm gonna see if I can get this published and and shared

So then in the gospel of Mark, Mark three six, and the Pharisees went forth and straightaway took counsel with the Herodians

against him how they might destroy him. Yeah. That's Mark three six.

And that's who we're dealing with today, folks, is the modern day Pharisees.

We call them Pharisees

around here. Yeah. That's that's good. I like that word, Phariseite.

It's

it attacks your abdomen too. Well, you know what it does. It is meant to do is to separate them because they always run hide behind mama's coat tail, the Jews. And

you can't identify them or separate them. Well, this Yeah. I get this came from my,

my friend in Argentina who was a shaman kind of guy working on it. Okay. He goes, okay. And he and he goes, well, they're the ancient Pharisees.

And yet they've got all of this modern new technology and methods and things like double entry bookkeeping and fancy stuff like that. Yes. Yes. And they're parasites,

so they're the Pharisees.

So that's where There you go.

Very good. Very good. So there's, I mean, there's a global awakening about this stuff too. Oh, boy. Is there?

Yeah. Okay. So,

people are getting fooled are not getting as fooled as they used to be. In fact, that even Donald Trump said to some Judy the other day said, my people are are turning against you. Yep. You know that under 40, Eli

Okay. You won't find one person

that gives a crap about Israel or wants to give them money. The younger generation

coming up

is one, it appears,

one of the most conservative generations the country's ever produced.

Yeah. Because they don't trust anybody.

They know they ain't got no future unless there's changes, and they wanna know the future's how we got here. That's right. Okay? Yes. And, I had somebody tell me a while back, guy that was retired from the state department

that, heard all this out, and he says your market is the younger generation.

Well, hell, all of us are along the teeth that get attracted to it right now. But once this spreads through

that segment of demographic.

Right. That may be the the the the thing that pushes it over the cliff. You just don't know. And that's why I don't know. They're waiting. They're waiting for this message, that generation.

Amen. They're they're all waiting for the truth to come out. Okay? But, you know, the truth is in the Bible and the Judeo Christians don't know what the Bible contains because they've been fed lies, not only by the Jews, but by the Judeo Christian ministry.

The whole

what's what should I call it? The greatest global

go ahead. Go ahead. In in in,

of of Ted Wyland's book We're both speechless.

God. I know. I'm just trying to think of Ted. So you know Ted Wyland. Right? You're familiar with Ted. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Sure. In his book, God's Chosen People yesterday, today, and forever, how he has those little five by for Todd and his people, boy, if you want to get the definitive book on this Jewish question, it's here.

His site is missiontoisrael.org.

He's an identity preacher like Eli.

Missiontoisrael.org.

And the name of the book is God's covenant people yesterday,

today, and forever.

And I think it's not the Jews.

No. I would no. No. I think you'd buy the paperback for about $10. I'm gonna quote you something out there that was triggered when you said that. In the section on because he breaks everything down in

in in different like, antisemitism,

all these things. And then he gives you a bunch of the Jews quotes, and then he goes in and gives you a bunch of Christian quotes. And the back of the book has got a

glossary where you can trace those words

back to the quotes.

So Right. Anyway but if you go into Judeo Christian,

one of the quotes in there was it was the greatest

coup of the twentieth century.

Right.

For people to believe that there is such a thing as Judeo But they could mix it all. They're so totally different. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the the founding fathers of this country didn't hear of that word. They never used it. Of course. It's Christianity against the bankers.

Yeah. The the, you know, the Federal Reserve. Well, not the Federal the Bank of England in those days. Okay. Yeah.

So this is the most gigantic charade, global charade, both political, economic, and religious the world has ever seen,

and most Christians are subject to it. They don't realize they're being lied to about everything. Are you kidding me? They don't know they're slaves.

And just like Tran Russell said, they'll enjoy their slavery.

I want, I want to sidetrack this whole memory pin. I got to ask you a question, Eli.

Have you seen

the Tucker Carlson interview with the guy on the Shroud of Turin?

No. I haven't.

Go wherever you go. Get a Tucker Carlson fix.

And as soon as you've got two hours, you sit down and watch that.

Is this jaw dropping?

He he almost

he almost more done. Yesterday, it was awesome.

Okay. Alright. Very good. I mean, if you got anybody that's wavering on their faith, you sit them down and call that. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why it's not receiving any real publicity. Okay. It's because

the Judeo Christian don't want Christians to believe in Jesus. They want them to believe in this gay,

powerless,

homosexual,

lesbo loving Jesus.

Right? Yeah. That's just being promoted by the churches. Yeah. So you can get you go to one of those with a You're gonna love that show that he's talking about then. Yeah. And, and and get upon your your new vegetarian,

minister. Right.

Right. Right.

How did you pronounce that? Vegetarian?

That almost sounds like There's a Freudian slip. It's a Freudian slip. Right.

That's right.

So, anyway, we have, the the biggest global charade and but it was prophesied in the bible. This would happen.

Okay?

Second Thessalonians chapter two, Paul says, just before the second coming of Christ, there would be a tremendous falling away from the true faith by the Christians themselves.

Tabernacle.

Okay. Tabernacle. Yeah. It's happening, folks. But the good news is it's starting to reverse.

Right. Yeah. There will be an awakening too. That's predicted in the book of Ezekiel.

Believe it's chapter 37.

First of the,

when the, Israelite, the

the dead man's bones come back to life. Okay?

So I'm anticipating a great joy of, life giving truth

to our people in the near future. It's happening already, as you just said. Okay. So and then there's, in Mark, I just quoted Mark three six, and then there's other,

one, two,

three, four, five, six other verses in Mark that say the same thing. That's the Jews, not the Romans.

Gospel of Luke.

I'm just gonna count the verses here real quick. One, two, three, four,

five

verses in Luke that say the Jews wanted to kill Christ. I'm gonna quote Luke twelve one. It says, in the meantime,

when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people in so much that they trod upon one another,

he, that is Jesus, began to say unto his disciples, first of all, beware ye the leaven of the Pharisees,

which is

hypocrisy.

Is that the only place he uses that phrase, the leaven of the Pharisee, Or does he use No. It's used many times. Okay. It's used many times. Now you want me to give you a good example of that? Okay. Sure. Ever ask you about that?

Not really.

No. Well, what is leaven? Well How many times? A lot of people don't even 11. A lot of people don't even know what leaven is. That's the key to the whole thing. Right. Yeah. Well It's the key. Well, of course. Yeast.

Yeast makes bread rise.

That's right. You want me to show you the leaven of the Pharisees?

When the first bronze was attached

to the to the first birth certificate used in this capacity,

from that point,

they've leavened up $37,000,000,000,000

worth of debt.

There you go. There you go. There's the leaven of the Pharisees Okay. Right there. Yes.

Is that why the bailiff says all rise when the judge comes in?

I don't know. I just remember grandmother said, don't you run through the Christian when I got bread in the oven.

There you go. There you go. Right?

So,

and then,

so many verses in Luke,

the scribes and Pharisees were the main instigators against Jesus, but the Herodians

and the Sanhedrin were all part of the plot

to destroy him.

Gospel of John. Jesus would not walk in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him. That's 71.

Do I need to elaborate on that one? No, man. I think you pretty well covered enough for us to understand that you got a handle on you got a handle on this.

Yes. Yes. And then you can know if this has been accepted or not, Eli?

I was gonna call, Daryl this morning, but I've been so busy. I didn't have a chance. But, I'll find out later today, you know, and let you guys know. Okay? Okay.

So

+1

77198

+1, 2345. I don't know the six, seven verses. Okay. The the next,

piece of evidence, the illegal trials.

The the Jews, the Pharisees,

and the Herodians,

but it's primarily the Pharisees,

had six illegal trials totally contrary to Mosaic law.

Before Annas, that's John eighteen twelve and thirteen,

Before Caiaphas, John eighteen nine through through 24. Caiaphas. Before the Sanhedrin, Matthew twenty seven one and two. Before Pilate, John eighteen twenty eight through 38.

Before Herod, Luke twenty three six one. And before Pilate again, Luke eighteen thirty nine and nineteen forty five to 48. You were gonna say something there. Well, I was. I was gonna say, wasn't Cherifus the head rabbi?

Yes. He and he was appointed.

Okay? These people were not descendants of the house of Judah. They were illegitimate priests pretending

to be the priesthood of Judah.

Okay? You know, Eli, let me pose this question to you. We can discuss it later. I don't wanna interrupt you. Yeah. Can you find out when

did the Jews start, doing the maternal line of herettoman?

In other words, when was it that your mother had to be a Jew for you to be a Jew? When did that start?

Well, the the Edomites brought that with them because

they worship this goddess.

I forget what they called her, but Astarte, the the Right. Right.

So called goddess of the pagans. Right? And they worship Moloch.

And Moloch and, who? Remphan,

the various

gods and goddesses that they worship. And they brought that with them to Palestine

when John Hyrcanus

circumcised these Edomites and allowed them to become citizens

of Judea, but not,

they couldn't be Israelites because that's a hereditary thing. Uh-huh. Okay. Well, here's why I asked you that question. And it's it's a critical question, really.

If you go to Genesis,

how many pages paid front and back, both columns. You put over on the Exodus, bunch more pages. So and so begat so and so begat so and so. Right. Yeah. Well, there's a thousand or more generations there, and that's male lineage.

That's right. It's all Abraham,

Isaac, and Jacob.

Where did the female

only heretic

and tap off of that line of a thousand male

to male Oh, it didn't. Passages. It didn't. Well, that's what I'm trying to get at.

In the Talmud, it did, but not in the Bible. So you see, they're impostors.

Most of them are impostors.

Yes. All of them are impostors.

Unless they're an actual Israelite managed to crawl in the woodwork there. You can't drag a female her adamant line off of a total male her adamant line.

That's right. And that's what you ever get in a discussion with some of these people? You pose that to them. I had a a a Jewess on here one day when I did it with her, and she just went,

I know.

Yeah.

She said I know? Yeah. She did. That's true. She said, like, I know what you're inferring was what she

was. Right. And she had no idea. Later converted one. A guy that came on with, Paul,

Daniel from Idaho converted her. So anyway Maybe. That is not I've never heard anybody post that before.

But isn't that a really interesting perspective

to look at this whole Jewish question with? Yeah. Well, I I've said many times the average Jew has no idea

that Judaism is a fake religion. Yeah. If they actually believe it's the religion of the Old Testament.

Okay. They they like it. Better than Christians do. Because they their their

parents do and fathers teach them to lie, cheat, and steal, that this is their prerogative, and this is their territory, and this is how they rationalize it.

Right. Right. Yeah. And so I'm just gonna because we're running out of time here, and I I really have to go too. Matthew twenty seven twenty four, when Pilate saw he he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, He took water washed his hands before the multitude

saying I am innocent of the blood of this just person

Right. And speaking to the Jews see ye to it. Yep. Okay. Yep. Alright.

The Jews did it not not Pilate.

And note note Matthew twenty seven one, when the morning was come, all the chief priests and the elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death. No Romans involved.

Twenty seven two. And when they had bound him, they led him away and delivered him to Pontius Pilate, the government the governor. Okay? And so I'm just gonna jump straight to,

John 19

because the the crux of the matter is in John nineteen eleven.

I'll just read a couple of verses from John 19,

verse four. Therefore, Pilate went forth again and sayeth unto them to the Jews,

Behold, I bring him forth to you that ye may know that I faint. I find no fault in him.

How many times has your minister quoted these passages to you?

Then came Jesus forth. Yeah. Right. Never happened. Right?

Then came Jesus forth wearing a crown of thorns and the purple robe, which is a robe signifying guilt or or,

shame.

And Pilate said unto them, behold the man.

Here he is.

When the chief priests and therefore

officers saw him, they cried out saying, crucify him. Crucify him.

Pilate say it's unto them, take you him and crucify him for I find no fault in him. I won't do it. You have to do it.

Verse seven. Oh, I I just read that. Sorry.

Verse 12. And from this forth, Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out saying, if thou let this man go, thou art no art not Caesar's friend,

whosoever maketh him king speaketh against

Caesar.

Oh,

Pilate realized that, well, these Jews because they were partners in row with Rome in the occupation of Judah,

they were gonna accuse him to Caesar, and it wouldn't be good for Pilate.

Right? This was a threat.

This is intimidation.

This is extortion.

This is blackmail.

Okay?

That's the only reason that, Pilate consented to to the the murder. Okay? And what else would you and what else would you expect out of this crowd?

That's right. That's right. So John nineteen eleven.

Okay.

Oh, actually, it's on the next page. I have to turn the page.

Okay. So

Jesus and Pilate are having a conversation in John nineteen eleven.

And it's verse 10. Then saith Pilate unto him. This is privately. He went in into the,

into the hall to speak with him privately.

Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee and have power to release thee?

Nineteen eleven, Jesus answered, thou couldest have no power at all against me except it was given thee from above.

Therefore,

he that delivered me unto thee

hath the greater sin.

So we just found out it was the Pharisees

and the Sanhedrin that delivered him to Pilate.

So he's telling us that whoever delivered him to Pilate

hath the greater sin. Who could that be?

See, there's there's no argument here. The Bible clearly says that Jews killed Christ. Okay? You got it pretty well nailed down, Eli.

I would hope so. Yeah.

Right. And these these so called priests were not Israelites.

They were not Israelites. Nobody knows that either. You want me to give you a tidbit out of that shroud thing?

Okay. Sure. When they when they said they drag the cross,

back in those days, they didn't drag the upright portion. They just drag the cross section.

Oh, okay. Heavy enough. A 100 or a 120 pounds maybe,

around that range.

And it says he stumbled,

collaborated by several of the gospels. Right?

Right.

In Turin,

they picked up the soil

that was on his knees,

hands Oh, okay. Tip of his nose.

Oh, wow. It was

soil

that is only in Jerusalem,

and it had pollen in it that the only place in the world where it is

is in Jerusalem in the spring.

Yes. It's a good year. On on Shroud Research. Yeah. That that show is gonna freak you out. K? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm very familiar with the Shroud of Turin. I've been following that for years. Well, you've you've never seen it presented like this because it recently Okay. The Savoy family, which controls it, it's in a cathedral in Turin, I guess.

Allowed five researchers to spend five days with it. And they found all kind of what is on that cannot be replicated. They don't know what it is. It can't be replicated.

Well, he he tells what it is. He tells how much

electricity that it would take to cause that. And that could only because

they are speculating,

of course, by the resurrection of Jesus, that that is the resurrection of Christ. And just there's all kinds of past all kinds of fascinating stuff in there, and you'll like it. Yes. I'll just tell you that. Well, here again, the the the Christian,

denomination

should be on top of this, spreading this to their followers, but they're not.

Yep.

It just shows you how perverted they have become. Well, but it's under ultimately the pope's control,

and they speculate on there that the reason the Catholics don't pawn it or try and get it

validated more or anything else is because they don't want it to be proved false.

Right. It can't be proved false. Everything happening is proved true. That's why this,

it's this is a really important

interview from Tucker and this guy Yeah. Whose his whole career Allegedly. Revolved around the shroud.

Right. Right. Anyway, I know the real reason watch it. You'll appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I know the real reason the Vatican don't doesn't wanna, you know, put this makes this stuff public. It's because Exactly. It's obvious that Jesus is a white man

from from everything that's that's been, you know, presented.

Right.

K. In that, in that book by Ted Weiland, he dug up a letter from the Vatican archives

of one of the soldiers

that depicted the whole crucifixion. It was in the archives in the Vatican, I guess. And they said he had brown hair and blue eyes.

The soldier

wrote the report.

Yeah.

Yeah. And they don't wanna offend the Jews because the Catholic church has been controlled by This is not a fence.

People. Who you can't offend just to know who rules over you. Screw those facts.

That's right. That's right. And they're gonna be screwed really soon. The the the day of judgment is fast approaching,

and but anybody who

falsely believe that the Jews are god's chosen people

is gonna have to account for themselves before Jesus at their judgment say I wanna confront that.

Chosen by who and for what?

Yes. Right. I'm not gonna take I'm not gonna take the surface on that statement. Excuse me. I'll bite. Chosen by which god and for what? Right. That's right. Exactly.

Right. And but you're still believing lies. It was

be not deceived.

How many times did he say that? Yo. Five times in Matthew deceived? Five times, Matthew 24.

Yeah. And don't believe those lying priests. There's No.

Sheep in wolf's clothing. You want the you want the validation? Them? You want the validation on that god's chosen people thing?

Sure. Sure. In 02/2008,

when they were stealing all the houses,

Lloyd Blankfein, then the head of Goldman Sachs got up in front of an audience, and somebody asked him about it. And he said, we're doing God's work.

Yeah. Which God? And now in the newspapers the next day in the articles, it was capital g God. They knew exactly which God they were doing work for. That's right. Go back to the synagogue

and laugh their asses off.

That's right. That's right. For the time being,

we know who lasts last. Yep. Okay, guys. I just thought, present this to you that, you know, freedom of speech is paramount in the republic

and in the Bible. Well, attach your meet you. Thank you.

Attach your affidavit to that, Eli.

Okay.

Right.

Okay, guys. And I'll Alright, buddy. Well, thanks for dropping by. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Now be careful. Gotcha. Bye.

Alright. There goes,

Amicus Eli.

He's great, Roger. Only nine that they don't that's the only team that they don't lie about.

They got sentenced to do it because it's their god. They don't lie.

Well,

yeah. This is, Todd. This is his network.

He and Paul put this idea together and germinated it, and he has his own, show on the weekends. I'm ashamed to say I can't tell you when, but you can probably get it off the website.

He's a very strong identity pastor. As you can see, he knows his stuff inside and out and,

doesn't, mind talking about it.

Always refreshing to find a good pastor.

Yeah.

We've got Brent tomorrow. Don't forget.

Yeah. And,

so Paul, what did you say? Where what what what's his name I would look for on the site? Or are you guys gonna thank you for all the work you guys? Eli

James.

Yeah. Just go to eurofolkradio.com

and look at the schedule.

That'll tell you when you're done. Perfect. Thank you. Yeah.

My favorite one of my favorite sites. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And he has been through our process. I finally

got him over there years ago and got on and explained it to him and his audience. And I don't know that he moved on, and I'm not sure when he did, but I believe that he has.

He used to live up in Chicago,

and we were all over him to get the hell out of there as quick as he could. And he finally did what he needed to do and whatever that was and moved,

further down south, I believe.

Good guy.

And I like that.

The the

the case number,

is

in the chat, and I don't know if Mark is still here.

Like, Mark had to leave, so I'll just email it to him. He wanted the,

he wanted the case Okay. To Creds. Good deal. Somebody was saying, Roger?

Yeah. This is Sketch. Just wondering, didn't you, get in touch with Anne?

I called, and she told me she left me a little message,

and my stupid,

what do you call those? Not a cell phone. The other one.

And it speeds up the message, you know, where you listen to things, then people send you voice messages.

Kinda like that. She said,

call me before call me after 03:00.

And I wrote her back and said,

what time zone? She said, eastern.

So I waited till 02:30,

called her, rang rang rang. She didn't answer,

and, I left her a message,

saying, sorry. I missed you, something like that.

And I see she's checked it, but I hadn't heard back from her. So Okay. Who knows who knows what her schedule I meant to start the show out with that.

Who knows what her schedule's like?

So I don't know. I I'm not gonna chase her.

She's gonna have to come back and play

play professional and with me. Okay?

Blessings, Roger. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure she's involved in no telling what all. Okay? So I'll just wait my turn and,

again, turn it over to the big guy. And when you're ready to open the doors,

we're ready. Okay? So, that's where we are. We're marking time.

We got our our implements are sharp, both edges

there, sketch.

And we got the latest

Alex Jones dagger knife

on our belt.

Uh-huh.

I'll,

anybody else got anything for me?

I'm about talked out.

There. I just sent the, I just sent the case number to, Mark. To Marky? Okay. Yeah. Mark Dadsdale. Alright. Well, Linus, welcome.

Got a bunch of female Linus. We got a whole pride

of female Linus' around here.

And us Yeah. The Us males, you get Thank you, Royer. Thank you for all your blessings.

Thank you, Boris.

Hey, Paul.

Yeah. Paul.

Yeah. So the case number is 3Colon25DashCVDash02025.

Is that correct? MBH?

I copied it directly from the Zoom chat and pasted it in the FCC chat.

So what I gave you was what Eli typed in.

K.

Paul, we need to get it on this magicJack thing. I'm gonna drove back you say that's the best way to do it is with the portable. Right?

Yep. Okay. Well, then I'm then I'm now I gotta do some other stuff, but where am I gonna put it and all that shit?

Okay. Well,

we'll get to it one one of these days soon. Okay? Okay.

Alright.

And then you can get in and explain how Skype how I can go in and get all those numbers.

Didn't they say somewhere in all those instructions that you could just download them off of the web before the end of the year, up until the end of the year, I think? Do you remember that?

Yeah.

You you should still you should still have Skype credits, so you should be able to log on to Skype my Skype on?

Okay. Well, I I don't I don't know about that.

I don't know that I got any more Skype credits left. My Well

annual recurring thing went out in

June. Well There may be a little

We put Teams on the portable,

and all of your contacts would have been replicated down to Teams on the portal.

Alright. So now Skype on the big computer where I can read it, and it it I I think it happened there too because the same account.

So alright. We'll fool with it. I'm gonna go try and figure out how I wanna get this portable

where I need it, and,

we'll deal with it another day. I'm sorry to say.

Okay.

I have,

I have a remote license

set up for another portable, so I'll be able to remote into it and set it up.

Alright. I'll just email you the link k. To it. Alright. It was the original

computer that I loaded everything to do the show in the early days. So banana

and all that stuff will be on there. So,

that's where we'll be.

Okay.

Alright. Let me go do stuff. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Love you. Welcome, Linus.

Love you too, Ryan. For bringing them along, Todd.

Oh, Todd, did you did you get with the lady Linda

on gift? Absolutely. She's wonderful.

The weather was, bad. We're gonna reschedule.

Daniel wasn't available. It was, not meant to be. We're gonna reschedule. But thank you so much for everything.

She's a sweetie, isn't she? Yeah.

And listen to your folks almost like, of no other.

Yeah. If if your folks are trying you're trying to talk to other people about this and say join the show and all,

it's hard for somebody that doesn't know really what we're talking about to get thrown into the program here because we're talking stuff way out of their league.

So the first thing Roger. What what happened was she I I've been begging her to call she's a good friend from a long time ago. I'm begging her to get to the Discord because anybody in here that's in our family that's in Discord

Uh-huh. Is is similar you know, is familiar with what you're doing because that's the line. But just do it like you. I don't need to rewrite the wheel. No. And I wouldn't aim it at that. I'm just saying if any of your people, like she was saying, she talked to this girl and this and the other,

Don't just throw them in the show because we've had people do that and they come that's a bunch of crap they're talking about. You know? So give them the the video I suggest

is the one that's in the new student section,

and it's the, God's Trump card,

the interview with badass uncle Sam.

Sure. I just particularly like that. I think it's a little more effective.

And let them watch that first, and then

they won't be lost if they come on the program.

You got it, brother.

Okay.

So You got it. Outside of that, I'll see you wonderful, lovely people tomorrow. Have a absolutely fabulous day. Very good program today. Thank you, lioness.

You stimulated all of it. We get to go back over the old stuff and the basic foundational stuff,

and everybody likes it. K? So, you can't I maintain that you can't hear these foundational

concepts.

You can't hear them enough times. K?

Even I learn new stuff occasionally these days after thirty three years.

So

there's there's a method to the madness.

See you tomorrow. Love y'all.

Ciao.

Take care, Raj.

Wow. We have a whole bunch of people that are interested in the trust class.

I am building the list. So,

I just have a bunch of people, a bunch of emails that I have to

gather together.

Well, if you want me to put that link in the Discord, I will. Is it on the can you just I know I probably it's probably somewhere right now with the link for that course if anybody wants to come.

Yeah.

It's,

I'm gonna be sending out a blast email

with instructions on how to sign up for it. And once you signed up for it,

you can either,

join the group classes

that,

I'll be holding

where

I'll just be playing an episode

of the course,

one of the, lessons.

And then people can be in that group, and then we can have, like, discussion afterwards.

Or you can go Can I give you my email?

Or

just send just send me an email with trust in the subject line.

Okay. You got it. Thank you. And then once you once you get that information, then you can spread it out,

to your Discord

people.

Send an email to pgbeaner,pgpapagolfbravo,[email protected].

And then I'll be sending out those emails

shortly.

Today is a really today is a really, really busy day to be doing that though. So,

but I am working on it even as we speak.

Sorry. You didn't get you were unable to get all those questions in. I know it's kind of,

all over the place, but

I don't think you got, like, a couple of your questions you didn't even get to ask,

Or or information providing is what I mean.

Is that a question for me?

No. I was just I was just saying I just well, I I thought you're paying a little that you were trying to get some information out. That's all. Just just acknowledgment. That's all.

Yeah.

Yeah. We just just had,

12 more people.

Alright. Let me let me see how many people are actually in the trust folder here. Where is it?

Folders. Folders. Folders.

Trust.

Looks like there is 73

people that have reached out about the trust class.

So, yeah, it's gonna take me a little bit to put that list together.

Alright.

Wow.

I

don't even know if Google will let me send an email to Hey, Paul. Is this a live class, the trust class?

No. It's a canned class. So you can either

you can either join the rebroadcast

of it,

week by week.

We'll do it in, Zoom and free conference call,

or you can just go straight to commonlawyer.com,

and you can take whatever classes, is whatever trust classes, episodes that you wanna take. You can you can do it, personal study or or as a group. So

your decision.

There's absolutely no difference

in signing up as the Radio Ranch Trust Group,

or

signing up yourself on commonlawyer.com

without the Radio Ranch Trust Group. The only difference is is if you do it as part of our group, it's $30 for the course. If you do it alone, it's a 175.

But you join our group for 30,

you can still do everything that you could do if you did the $1.75.

You can you can accelerate through the course. You can take the whole damn thing in twelve days if you want.

Don't

or

if you don't So it's all it's all recorded. And how many episodes are there? 12.

There are 12 episodes.

Alright. So if 75

people are in the group at one time, does that mean

they can only listen? They won't be able to ask each other questions at the end?

You'll be able to ask one question

at a time,

and we will go through,

like,

anybody that wants to come in with a question, they can ask one question. We get that question answered. We go to the next person. They can ask one question, and then we just go through the list of people until we run out of questions. Alright?

Who's answering the questions?

It will be the other people in attendance.

And,

I will,

I will also see what I can do about

forwarding questions on to Brent

so,

he can,

so he can answer those.

If nobody else can answer it So the next episode

will have the answers. Right?

No. Then well, the next Not necessarily, Larry. That's not what he said.

He just said if he'd forward some questions to Brent, if they're not answered in the group, I take it they'll be answered

during the next session. Query. He will query

Brent if he's open to that is what Paul said. Brent has not agreed to that.

Right.

So

but I will pass any unanswered questions

off to Brent,

and he will probably

answer them

to me via email,

and

then I will send that email out to the people that are in the group.

So

that is if if Brent consents to do that.

Because,

because all 12 episodes are prerecorded,

and the course materials are already set and all that stuff. So,

and many cases Each show is also two hours. Right, Paul?

It's about about ninety minutes.

Okay. An hour and a half. Okay. It'd be ninety minutes for the video and then thirty minutes for discussion following it,

And we'll wrap up as close to two hours as we can.

And approximately when do you wanna do this? Like, in a month or so?

I'm

I'm trying to get that email out before the end of this week. And then once you guys got the email, you got the instructions, you can go straight to commonlawyer.com,

and you can sign up right away and start taking the course immediately.

But we'll be doing,

one episode at a time,

via Zoom, like, probably, like, 08:00 on a Wednesday or some something like that.

And it'll be in Zoom and in free conference call for those people that don't have Zoom.

So and and that's another thing that I have to set up. I have to be able to,

play the video

on Vimeo,

share the screen for the video,

audio and video

to Zoom and a free conference call, and it will be recorded

on both Zoom and a free conference call.

So

there there's still some moving pieces I gotta put in place.

The the the first order of business is sending an email out to about 73 people.

So bear with me.

Okeydoke.

Have a great day.

Earlier, I wanted to get in and and comment on Brian Howard's,

jurisdictional statements.

That was he was doing a good job there,

and I think that's the most important thing.

I'd like to read you though how Stamper would put it.

He says, I

simply he's talking to the judge,

I simply do not understand the nature and cause of the accusation with regard to the elements of personal jurisdiction,

venue, and the nature

of the action

until the prosecution

properly alleges them.

I'm therefore unable to enter a plea to the charge

until I've had an opportunity to raise a meaningful defense against these elements.

I cannot rebut

an unstated

presumption.

That's it.

These guys got nowhere to go.

Okay. And that's in what stamper book and what page?

That's in his abatement book

or his abatement process

document,

the abatement at common law.

Abatement at common law. Okay.

There's,

there's a lot of Stamper stuff available up on, Google Drive.

And the search for Google Drive doesn't work.

I mean, I can go in and search my drive for anything I want if you log in to your Google account and you go to Google Drive, even if you follow the link from the matrix docs, soon as you put something in the search bar, it's only gonna search your Google Drive.

It's absolutely

stupid.

But,

most of the stuff is in the docs folder.

If it's a book, it'll either be,

if it's one of many books, it will be under the name of the author,

or it will be in a folder called books.

And then you can sort those by by alphabet, and then you can go straight to the title that you're looking for. And then you can, view or download those to your heart's content. So

they're either in the docs folder,

a folder named

with

named Stamper,

for example,

or in a folder named books.

It's there.

Trust me. There are hundreds of gigabytes of stuff up there. It's there. Trust me.

Just finding it's like finding a needle in a bloody haystack.

The the nice thing about this document, it's about 50 pages long. It's a big it's a common law, and he he takes the time to explain what he means by all of these things and how we got here

and what you're doing when you're doing it,

etcetera.

Yeah. He's still in court, which I'm not sure is a good idea.

The book, The Hundreds, would say that you don't even go there. You do a non statutory abatement.

And everybody's been sending me the Don Quixote thing.

I guess I'll have to download that and read it and see what that one's about because that seems to come up a lot. So let's That's up there. 88 pages.

So

Okay. There's a folder

there's a folder on Carl Miller.

That's important to be able to find that stuff. The folder name is Carl Miller, and there's, like, 25 or

25 or more items in there.

Carl Miller interviews,

videos,

PDFs,

that's that, you know, the thing. I mean, there's a Mullins folder,

and there is a Stamper folder.

And Stamper folder has

come on.

Come on. Open it up.

It has fruits from a poisonous tree,

high priest of treason, jurisdiction,

and abatement,

and a lawsuit is an act of war.

Let me see if there's more stuff by Stamper.

Maybe I can move it. Paul, just for fun. Just for fun because I like to do this sometimes. The Mullein folder is based on Eustace

and not on the benefits of the Mullein plant.

Yeah. It's not even spelled the same.

It's not. I know. I know. I I just like to have a little bit of fun sometimes.

Right.

So there's Stamper under its jurisdiction

and abatements.

That's in the recents folder. I'm gonna move that to Stamper.

Mel Stamper repudiation

letter,

Stamper on jurisdiction and abatements, there's two copies of that.

Okay. So

Yeah. The one I'm on, Paul, has that second second big title, comments from the professor

on traffic citations,

an introduction to abatement.

That's the one I need.

Okay. I'm gonna search for abatement,

and we'll see

what is there. Search title only.

There is common law abatement,

common law abatement for a court case,

common law abatement objections for a court case,

stamper on jurisdiction and abatements,

abatement at common law

PDF. That's in the recent folder.

Let me let me move the

abatements at common law to the stamper folder.

That would be good

because

that's that's the one I'm looking at, and if more people would get interested in that, you know, I've got a lot of questions about it, but there's nobody to talk to about it. So

Yeah. Okay. And common law abatement,

that's in books. Let's see who that's by.

That's the Don Quixote School of Law.

That's the common law abatement,

and,

that's in the books folder.

I'll leave I'll leave that one in the books folder because it's the Don Quixote one, but the title is common law abatement.

There is common law abatement for a court case

and common law abatement objections for a court case. That's in the Ed George 44 folder.

See what that is.

Oh, that's a that's a doc x.

So,

common law abatement for a court case, it is,

two

two pages.

That's that's from

that's from Ed George's,

abatement information.

Objections for a court case. Let's see what that is.

Common law abatement statement. Did this document, he would have put a more step by step,

kind of a thing like the book of the hundreds did so you know exactly what you did gonna do and when and what the timing is, you know, the procedure.

It Well That's where I get confused in this document.

I don't know if the Edgeworth stuff follows

the stamper abatement,

but,

the, common law abatement statements to say in court,

that is pretty much a,

a how to, a step by step.

Judge, I'm willing to appear in this matter to settle this matter. I'm going to do it by my divine special appearance,

challenge the court's jurisdiction as a living soul calling

for a constitutional court of record by a trial

by jury of my peers.

Then you say, I demand this court dismiss all charges as outlined in the common law abatement nullifying plaintiff's pleadings against alleged abatement,

defendant

for the following reasons stated in the common law abatement in numbers one through

seven.

If the judge denies your current law, baby, then stick to that.

I I think, Paul, if you just stick stick to that short,

you know, sample that I you know, nature and cause,

venue, you know,

jurisdiction, and,

you can't proceed and you can't make a plea because, see, they want you to plea to put the rubber stamp on their jurisdiction.

So if you can you can tell them that you need to know what they're talking about before you can respond,

they're not gonna be able to tell you. So it could be the end of it right there. So in one sentence, you could be dismissed.

Right. But,

if the judge denies your common law abatement, you say before I can proceed in this matter, I must have answers to the following questions so I can properly address this matter.

Questions to the judge of this case are,

a, judge, do you claim to derive your authority over me based upon statute?

Yes or no?

Judge, do you claim to derive your authority over me based upon

parents' petri

a? Yes or no? It would all come under nature and cause, Paul.

Judge, do you claim to derive your authority over me based on your oath of office and any other requirement of the state? Yes or no?

If the judge will not answer the questions,

statement four and on the record, the judge's name has the judge's name has refused

to,

identify

their authority and the court's jurisdiction.

If your common law abatement is denied, that is a violation of the fifth, sixth, and seventh amendments.

Fifth amendment you then invoke the fifth, sixth, and seventh amendments as follows.

It's just, you know, one one page little ditty.

Give it a read. See, One thing wrong the basic one basic thing wrong with that is you shouldn't be even addressing the judge. You should be telling the judge the prosecution

is the guy here who's accusing me,

and he needs to give me some nature and cause

and a venue

so that I can even make a plea. I don't know what this is about. This all looks very

strange to me. You know? So

Mhmm. Right. The judge is supposed to be there as an impartial party, and if he and Stammers talks about all this, right, in this document.

If he gets an attitude

and then you

sort of have to nicely say to him your honor I'm,

I'm not addressing you with any disrespect

I'm addressing the prosecutor

and,

I simple simply wanna know the nature and and cause of this,

how it's derived.

I need venue, you know, personal jurisdiction,

the nature and action.

Right. And they can't come up with it. So Nature and color. Smart, he dismiss it.

He just he dismiss it right there.

Right.

Okay. Well,

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