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In this episode, we dive into a lively conversation with Brent, who shares his journey from Los Angeles to various parts of the United States, including his time in the Marine Corps. Brent discusses his experiences and roles during his service, highlighting his time in Okinawa and his interactions with fellow Marines. The conversation is rich with personal anecdotes and reflections on military life, political activism, and the journey of self-discovery. The episode also explores the concept of national status and the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), with Brent and other participants discussing their experiences and strategies for financial independence and personal sovereignty. The dialogue covers a wide range of topics, including the challenges of navigating the UCC, the importance of preparedness, and the role of community and trust in achieving financial security. The conversation is peppered with humor, camaraderie, and a shared commitment to exploring alternative ways of living and thinking.

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Is everybody gone? Yep. No. We're still here.  

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Oh, okay. And, Brent, you Brent We we Hey, Brent. You you you you were here down here, you in the South or the Southeast, and you moved out to, Vegas?  

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Alright. I   I was born in LA,   went in the service,   got out,   went out to Massachusetts,   then I moved down to Georgia,   then I moved back out here.  

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Oh, okay. Okay. You're born in LA?   Yeah.   Yeah. I I moved out there in '75 and graduated from Maniards High School and went to the Marine Corps back in '75   to '70 until about '85. I think I did about ten years of No shit. Out there. What what was your MOS?   Oh, I was 30, 50 one out there, you know, just, and by mainly going in there to become a lawyer, I'd go into college and pay for all my schooling. Wow. So I took the easiest one I could take.  

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I was a O151   slash 3043   slash 8531.  

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Damn.   You had to cut out even more as yourself?  

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Yep. And I only stayed, six and a half years from June   till 12/31/1981.  

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Oh, okay. Well, I went in at seventy eight and got out around eighty five or eighty six, something like that. Oh, you boot ass mofro.   Hey. I'm a no good hour, man.   I  

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I spent my last eleven months over there.  

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What what what what what a bass? I'm the suave. Over at,  

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as in Macamanado   or, Kinzer.  

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Oh, Kinzer. Okay. Well, I was I was there in '80 I went in '80 in '80 and '81. I was there. No shit.  

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Yeah. What what's your last name? Because,  

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Crowley. Alright. Crowley, c r c r o w l e y.   Yeah. I was there in, I went there in 1980.  

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Did   you were under Colonel James? Were you working for a third FSSG?  

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No. I did the swab I did the swab though.  

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Yeah. But you were at CIP,   Schwab. Right?  

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Yeah. Yeah. At the central issue point?  

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Yeah. Alright. My office ran your   thing. I was SMU   admin under Colonel James. Remember him?  

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Damn. Well, it's been so long. I can't well, you you would it's been long for you too. I don't remember it. I don't remember who it was. Like, I'm just a kid. I was 17 years old then.  

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Oh, well, I was   well, when I was working for colonel James, I was 23.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah. You're a little bit older than me. Okay. Yeah. Wow, man. And then I was at 22 Area on at Pendleton.  

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I was at 21 Area for admin school over there in '75.  

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Oh, so oh, yeah. You were in yeah. I wasn't even in then. I didn't get in there till '78.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and I went to Hollywood High.  

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Oh, you went to Hollywood? Okay. Well, I went to Manurex.  

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Yep.  

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I was in good, man. I was in South Central, buddy.  

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Well, I lived I lived up in your Florence in Normandy for a while.   Oh, you did? '13.   Yep.  

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Okay. Well, I was on an exposition in Western in Normandy. Right there, Exposition Western Normandy, Tinker?  

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Yep. Yep.  

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Yeah, man. But, you know, I came out there from Missouri. I moved up to Missouri in 1975   to California. It was, obviously, like, a country boy coming to the big city.   Yeah, man. It was a shock.   It was a shock.   Yes, sir.   Then I got involved with, the Black Panthers out there. Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Jerlamo Pratt, and all of them.   Uh-huh. I got involved with them. When I left when I left the Marine Corps, I moved up to Oakland in 8586.   That's when I got involved with the, Black Panther Party and the WHO movement.   Damn. And they the one that they the one that started to politicize me, and then we came here. Only reason I'm in Florida is because the national office of the African People's Socialist Party, we relocated   in 1992   from Oakland   to to, Saint Saint Petersburg, Florida.  

So the national office is here now, but I'm no longer with them. But, you know, I was with them at the time.   Mhmm.   Yeah, man.  

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Yes, sir.   That was a guy that was involved with the Panthers that,   was speaking on he'd be a guest for Joyce Riley   and for Alex Jones at times,   back in the early aughts. Okay.  

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Okay. Really?  

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Yeah. I I forgot his name.   And I guess when he went to prison and stuff,   Pickney. You know,   they, you know, he was unifying the prisoners   as opposed to, you know, people being split up in groups. Larry Pickney? They did they did not like that.  

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You talking about, you talking about who, the the Black Panthers? Larry Pinckney.  

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Who? Brent Larry Pinckney.   Yeah. Brent? Yeah.   Did you know him?  

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No. What's the name again?  

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Larry Pinkney.  

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Oh, Larry Pinkney. Yeah. I know I never met him, but I know of Larry. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Okay. When he was on you know, big time. Yeah. Oh, and he oh, okay.   He was on Alex for years, and, Joyce Riley had him on as a guest host and stuff.  

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I don't know much about Joyce Riley. I'm very familiar with with Alex Jones. I didn't really particularly care for Alex Jones. He seemed like a sensationalist. I didn't you know, William Cooper summed him up at one Uh-huh. Term, but he Yeah. He he he he's come around now, I think, a little bit better. But, anyway, go ahead.  

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No. It's an act.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.   But Joyce is probably not a way of getting her.  

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Yeah. She was,   big,   during the nineties and early aughts, and she died of cancer in, like, 2015.   Oh. But she but she her show was, like,   I think, number three or something   on the national ratings chart.   You know? And Alex was the way up there too.  

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Yeah. We called him a steal for the Jews.  

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Well, more than likely, he is a Jew. Well, his wives are penitueces   every time.  

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Yeah. Well, that's interesting, man. That's interesting.   So which show which shows do you get on, Brent? You say you go to the one   right after this show   in the app Oh, well, on on Thursdays mainly. But sometimes,  

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you know, if it's lame on here, then I'll jump over to,   your d or   your DIY   health.   And, your  

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Your Your  

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Uh-huh.   DIY   health.   And it's on free conference call also on that app.   And, that's Jim Ram,   and he's he's also a national.   You know? But, you know,   the time conflict and stuff, you know, he hardly ever comes on here anymore.  

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Oh, okay.   So tell me a little bit about you now. How'd you get involved in this here? This stuff here, Brent?  

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I met Roger at a gun show in Georgia.  

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Oh, okay.  

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I had just gotten off a grayhound route,   and,   I knew that was a gun show. And I had a chance to go to it, and   there's Roger at the table selling,   shortwave radios.   And he invited me to his group,   and I went to it. And,   you know, I went as much as I could, and then he started talking about, you know, the national status.  

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What year was that?  

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About '93  

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or '4. Ninety '3 or '94?  

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Yes.  

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Oh, okay. Do you get in touch? You've been with Roger Long? His his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his  

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his   you know, it wasn't polished.  

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Hey. You're kinda breaking up, you're kinda breaking up, Brent.  

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Oh,   alright.   Can you hear me now?  

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Yeah. I can hear you a little better now, I think. Yeah. Go ahead. You were saying somebody was polished now or he would wasn't polished then or something like that?  

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Yeah. Back then, he was new to the information,   and he was trying to impart something he didn't totally understand.   Mhmm.   You know? But it's a whole lot better now.  

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Whole lot better now. And you you're a national. Right? Yep. Okay. Okay.   Alright.  

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You know, I'm trying to teach a few people out here.  

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And out there in Vegas?  

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Yep.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah. I was wondering if any, any black folks were on the show.   So I'm I'm kinda glad that, he he called you out.   Because I said, are we the only black folks on the show?   Me and Tony?   Because I wanna know how people were,   how receptive they were to it.  

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Hey, Brent. Tell, William about how you became a national.   Like, what how you filed your paperwork  

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and all that.  

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Oh, okay. I caught it. I came in on the tail end. Sorry. Oh, I just filed it.  

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And I'm back in what I need. Yeah. Oh, it's like it's easy.   Hey. You're breaking up again, Ron.   Office.  

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Hey, Brent. You're breaking up. We weren't clear on who to send what.   Okay.   We weren't clear as to who to send what to back then.   I sent mine in in 2019.   You know? Okay. A lot of us send our stuff in right around that time.   And we knew we knew who to do it with.   And, also,   we started note doing notifications,   you know, around a little after that time, you know, hitting the,   IRS.   And, well,   you really wanna hit them, you know, along with secretary of state,   but, you know, your state, local,   and wherever you're gonna be dealing with, you know, them.  

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Oh, okay.   Interesting. Okay.  

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So far, I haven't notified,   you know, state or local.   But   my my philosophy is don't start no shit. It won't be no shit.   I'm sure you're acquainted with that one.  

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Oh, yeah. I didn't I came around a little bit late. I came around in 1999,   with this information. I started running a group in February   I would wanna say, 02/2006   or '7, I think it was,   right here in,   in Clearwater area. One of the largest patriot groups in the India   in Florida at that time.   And, Diane, what did you call Nightline came down and interviewed us.   Dan Lieberman   and Diane Sawyer, but, I had a big run-in with them afterwards because they they put me on the show, and they only put a they interviewed me for three hours as the leader of the group,   but then they only only thing to put on the show was I had mentioned that they have guns, we have guns. And that's the only thing they put on out of the three hour interview they did, that's the only thing they put up the footage of me on the on Nightline.  

Yep. So if you go into Nightline, you see me Yeah. They're looking for that cut.   Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   And so they put that on Nightline, then everybody thought, oh, you're the flavor of the mouth,   black revolutionary and all that stuff.  

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Have you heard of Mark from Michigan?  

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Mark from Michigan? No. I haven't heard of him.  

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You haven't?   His name is Mark Kornke.   You haven't heard of him?  

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No.   Tony, you heard of him? Really?  

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Yeah. Goodbye.   No. He's a white guy.   Okay.   You have you seen a video called America in Peril   parts one, two, and three?  

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America in Peril. No.  

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Hey. This is Tony. Yeah. I heard of Mark from Michigan, but I'm not too familiar with his work, but I've heard of him. Oh, well, I've been hanging with him for about thirty years too.  

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Okay?   And I think he's straight up. He's former army.  

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You know what army stands for, don't you? No. But I'm pretty sure you're about to tell me.  

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Oh, of course I am. You know what marines do. It it means ain't ready for marines yet or aren't really men yet.  

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Hey. Don't don't don't be too hard, Joe. You know what? I'm I'm glad you said even in the coast guard. Real glad you said that. I'm really glad you said that to the jar head over there because I was in the navy. He always tries to Oh, you are a squid,   Yes,  

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sir. You know what squids are, don't you? Man.   You know what squids are,   don't you?  

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No. I don't.  

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The lower the lower forms of marine life.  

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Alright. That's okay.   That's okay.  

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At least we were free. This one guy I've worked free.   Yeah.   This one guy I've worked with, he had been, in the navy. And I said that to him, and he turned back around so quick. He said, ain't nothing lower than marine life.   I get to the floor laughing.  

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Yeah. Oh my goodness.  

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I just remind I remind I remind   Will every time he says that. I remind him that, hey. Listen. You guys always are hitching rides off of us.   Whenever you need to go somewhere, we're taking you.  

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Yep. Marine stands for my ass rides in navy equipment.  

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Exactly.   Well, he got all the acronyms down, don't he?  

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Yes, sir. And I love it. Wow.  

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Right. Tony, now hey, Brent.   Now you, you you came from Atlanta. Right, Brent? Or you were in Atlanta for a while? Tony was with,   the Nawabians down there in Atlanta.  

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With who?  

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Malachi z York.  

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Malachi z York, the ancient Nuwabian nation of Moors.   Didn't see them. They were in they were in Edenton, Georgia.   Really?   Yeah. Big o' big o' group, man. Big black racist cultural group. That's what the people like to name them, and they had Little Egypt in Atlanta.   That was what we were famous for. For. It was Little Egypt and Atlanta, and we had people coming from all over,   the state coming to see, you know,   what we built. They called it Little Egypt and Atlanta.  

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Now what what years, Tony?  

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Oh, this was back in,   '98,   '2 thousand, '2 thousand and '1.   Yeah.  

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02/2001,   I was on my way out of Georgia. I was there from   June   until   right before 09/11.  

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So you didn't never hear about the?  

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And then the the ATF and the FBI did a raid, a helicopter raid on them and everything.  

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Damn.  

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Yeah. Yeah. They would but now now hey.   Hey, Brent. They were they were meeting with queen queen Bertahesi   and Jacob Dick. They were they were trying to come over to the   UCC slash nationals. Yeah. The Ouachita. Right? Yeah.   Mhmm.   So they would, they was trying to explore,   you know, the national stuff at that time.   Mhmm. That would yeah. And then that's when, shortly thereafter, they had some other contradictions. Right, Tony? They had a raid from the the FBI.  

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Yeah. Who was the rap thing in the group?  

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It was a couple of it was a couple of them. It wasn't just one. It was a couple of them, and I think they were, what do you call it? They were disgruntled,   because the the saying goes that, you know, he was kinda like, baby dealing   a bunch of the younger kids.   Oh, shit. They they really couldn't tell if it was or was not,   but, you know,   lot of lot of people were telling their accounts and stuff, but then some of them retracted it. But by then, the FBI was already saying, oh, it's too late. So so sorry.   You know? So  

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When I when I was at 85,   I was there for martial art.   Have you heard of the Boochan Khan?  

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No. I haven't.  

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Oh. No. I haven't heard of them either.  

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Oh, were you in the martial arts back at that time? Oh, no. I never was in the martial arts. No. Okay. Oh,   I I got out of the Marine Corps to do that martial art.  

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Oh, okay.  

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Yeah.   You know, because they were sending you all over the place except for where you wanted to be, and it's like Yeah. Okay. I gotta I gotta get out of here.   And,   my first class,   you you'll never guess.   Like, I'm a Hollywood Marine   to start with. Okay? Well Yeah. I know. You you'll never guess where my first class in the Bujin Con was.  

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Not not in a not in,   Not in The States. No. I'm I'm thinking of, I'm thinking  

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I'm I'm thinking of the m c r   d. No. It was at MCRD   San Diego   where I had started   seven years previously.  

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Yeah. That's where we went to boot camp.  

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Yep. And Yep. Yep. It's like, damn.   It's a small world. And there was a cap the guy was a captain at the time   that was running the class.   Uh-huh. And that's where I started doing that martial art.  

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When you were then, you say that after you got to court?  

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Yeah. It was in,   June.   Eighty '2? Okay. Yep. In fact, in June, it's gonna come up on, fifty years since I stood on the yellow footprints.  

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Wow. We we we just we crossed paths, man. We just didn't, because I was there, and I was in the Oceanside   in '80, went to, you know, boot camp at '79 there.   And in '80,   I was '79 to '80. I was there on the Oceanside before I deployed for,  

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Ogan Allen. Were were you there in May of eighty?  

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Yeah.  

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I was at the 1980,   Western Division matches over on Polgus   or Flores,   wherever the rifle range is or was at that time.  

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Which one then?   Porges?   The rifle range?  

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Yeah. I think it was there. They had the western division matches.   That's that's where I picked up the, eighty five thirty one PMI.   Okay.  

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Yeah. Wow, man. Yeah. We we would we were there on the same taco. You went in before me, but, yeah, out there. Mhmm. Around that time. Also,  

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the 0151,   that's an admin clerk.   And what they had me doing was files and directives.   That that was my specialty,   and I got meritorious corporal out of that.   Oh, wow.   Well, the the cut and score for for o ones was so damn high.   You know? Like, I I could've   I could've beat the grunts,   three times over with what my composite score was.   Oh, here's what they had me doing   as the only black guy in the frigging office in Charlie 17.   I did the racial statistical   report   and the promotion board.   You know what what hell I went through. Right?  

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Oh, yeah.   Oh, yeah.  

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Wow.   And I couldn't do statistics   to save my ass.   You know, I figured out, you know, how to do it, but,   you know, like, now   Mhmm.   And, you know, brothers is coming up to me all the time. Man,   big racist towards me and this, that, and the other.   And Yeah. Of course, having been the  

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know Brent.  

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Brent, as I sit here and listen to you, man, you know, I can't help but laugh because you ever see that cartoon that come on Comedy Central   called South Park.  

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I I've seen it. I I don't Yeah. You remind me remind me of the chef, the black chef.   I forgot. Isaac Hayes. But  

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Isaac Hayes. Yes.  

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Yep. Yeah. What's your name, though?  

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He he I forgot what his name was on the cartoon, but he took out It was Jeff. Hayes. They called him they called him chef.   Yeah. Chef. Okay.   Yeah. You just the voice puts me in that mindset of,   that that guy on it on South Park.  

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Mhmm. Well,   again, having been the,   files and directives clerk, of course, I had read the complete   promotion order for the Marine Corps, you know, their manual.   And   so I just laid it down to them. I said, well, you need to get along with your your,   fire team leader, your squad leader,   your platoon sergeant, and your platoon commander, and they'll recommend you if you do good work for them.   You know, them being grunts and what have you.   And,   you know, if they don't like you, they aren't gonna put you up. You know? And   they had to deal with that.  

You know? It wasn't   they may have harbored feelings or whatever, but there were other blacks that got promoted in that company.   You know? Yeah.   And some of them had pretty high status in the company.   So it wasn't a racial thing. It was Yeah. Yeah.   You know? Yeah.  

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That's what it is. Interesting. Interesting.   So we all had different paths coming into this,   into this, work.   Mhmm.  

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And and we've had other marines in here and stuff. One guy, he's   he's about to turn 82.   You're familiar with you're familiar with one nine, aren't you? You've heard of them. Everybody in the corps just about sort of one nine.   Oh, one nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Walking   Dead.   This guy   went to Vietnam,   as a second lieutenant.   Notice I didn't say butter bar. I'll never refer to him as   as that ever.   He was a second lieutenant,   and he made first lieutenant later.   But,   he went to Vietnam   in very July   of,   '67.   And he wasn't assigned to a platoon yet, but he, you know, was with Bravo Company.   And he said, well, I'll go over to this hill and watch, you know, Bravo Company in action.  

And he stood on that hill, and he proceeded to watch what was called the wipeout.   One   bravo one nine   was wiped   out.   Their m sixteens   jammed.   They got brand new m sixteens, not a ones,   but m 16, the bare bones.   And   sixty four of them died   and about fifty some were wounded.   There were 18   able-bodied   afterwards  

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that had to clean the battlefield up. Well, you wait a minute. When you came in though, Brent, you was with the m 14.   They were just transitioning to the m 16 when I came in.  

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No. We had,   we had inoperable   rifles   at m c at MCRD,   Then we had working models at the rifle range   and,   working models at ITS.  

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Okay. Yeah. Because I never shot the m 14. I when we we did it when I got in, they said we were just transitioning from the m m six m 14 to m 16.  

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They they were lying. They had m sixteens all throughout the core. The last base to get,   m 16   a ones was Barstow.   You know how I know that?   Yeah.   I was stationed there when they came in. Uh-huh. And we had to we had to clean and we had to clean the cosmoline   off of them. They were brand spanking new, and that was in, like, that that was, like, '79   or '80  

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Uh-huh.  

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When they finally got those over to them. But,   you know   you know, they had him sixteens there and stuff,   but,   you know, they were old, flunky models and stuff.   Mhmm.   Interesting.   And I got my third and fourth award experts off of, those.  

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I you broke up. You got your third and fourth what?  

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Expert awards.   X award.   Expert.  

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Oh, expert. Expert. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Because your phone was going in and out there.  

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Oh, okay.   Okay. It hasn't moved.   Okay.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. Okay, Brent. So you say you're talking to a group of people out there on regarding the national status? Not not groups. It's just onesie, twosies.  

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There's a girl at work.   I gotta listen to Roger on, Jeff Rentz on his first interview.   And I'm shocked and amazed   she took in the information.   You know? She was able to spout it you know, spout questions back at me and everything and   you know?   But, you know, she's a pretty smart cookie anyway. And,   you know, she knows something's wrong. And,   you know, I don't know if she's feeling it in her life, but, you know, but she watched it   or listened to it.   Mhmm.   And I'm hitting her with a few other things and stuff just to round her out on things,   you know, that there's a problem,   and   you probably need to address it.  

Yeah.   Then there's a few other people, but   it's not getting through. You know, they have their ideas and what have you, and you you can't do anything about that.   You know, everyone's   ox has to be gored a certain way,   you know, for them to act.  

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Mhmm. Mhmm.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. But Yeah. But there's but there's one guy,   that was in Vietnam and stuff.   His name's Harvey.   And you know how people felt about officers and stuff in the corps. Right?   They didn't like them.   I'll tell you to this day,   the guys in one nine   revere   Harvey Y Song.   They called him all the time.   They have him over his house.   They they tell stories to their family   while he's there and stuff   that he's the reason why they exist.   Really?   Yeah.   Harvey is a very good guy. I'll I'm going out east   in a couple of weeks.   There's a gathering out there in, Alabama   with,   Mike Gaddy and, you know, some of the guys.  

And Uh-huh. It's it's it's open.   You know, if you listen to several other shows,   you know, like, he's on RBN also on Saturdays   and for an hour on Sunday.   And, you know, you can gather a lot of information off those also.   You listen to RBN?  

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Heard of it, but I haven't been on there, I think, in years.  

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Oh.   Yeah. I do. I mean You are you familiar with John Stattmiller?   Not me. Tony, you?  

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You've you've heard the name, though. Right? I don't even think I do. See, I heard the name. John Stattmiller?  

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Yeah. He he was the founder of RBN, and he died back in '21.   Oh. But   I I knew John from about '96   until he died.  

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Uh-huh.  

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Yeah.   And he had he he he died of a triple what they call a triple a,   abdominal   aortic aneurysm.   Mhmm. You know, his shit just popped.   And Right. And he and he dropped.   But he was a vet.   You know, he'd been a helicopter mechanic in the army,   you know, during Vietnam.   And,   you know, but he never went to the doctor or nothing.   And right after that happened, I had a VA appointment and told my provider,   you know, what happened to him, and they had me scanned for a AAA.   You know, I didn't have one or any signs of one,   but Mhmm.  

You know, VA will hook you up. I don't know, you know, if you go to the VA.  

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Yep. Yeah. Me and Tony both. Okay.  

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Cool. Yeah. They they  

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you know, over here in Vegas, they hook you up. Yeah. They hooked Tony up. I ain't got hooked up. I get $1.75 a month from him.  

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Oh, man. I don't get shit from him, but, you know, I don't have anything wrong.  

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Yeah.   And same here. I don't really have anything wrong, but I I kinda got that on default. I got the $1.75 months on default, actually. I guess you would call it that.  

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Really?   Yeah. Yeah. Because,   A PTSD   thing or what?  

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No. Well, I wouldn't call that then when while we were in,   I just did hearing. Hey. You got the tinnitus thing. Yeah. Tinnitus. Is that what they call it, Tom?  

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Not tendonitis.   Tinnitus.  

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Tinnitus. Ringing in the ears.   Yeah.   Oh,   shit.  

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Yeah. They give you one second. Give anybody $1.75   of that.  

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What what what was it,   that you did? What was your MOS again?  

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I was doing thirty one. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I don't think how you get tonight is out of a warehouse.  

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Because nobody could get it.  

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Anybody can get it. I'm telling you, they some crash. Well, it can rain.  

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Yeah. Because remember it ain't going to rain.  

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Well, shit. I I was when I, did the Western Division matches,   imagine   five days a week for a month   shooting the m 14 and pistols.  

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Well, that ain't too late.  

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Long. Besides, I wanna do it.  

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Nah. I'm not gonna do it.  

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Nah. Yeah. Not now. No. No need to now.  

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Well, actually,   Harvey   is making bank off their ass.   Yeah. Harvey.   Yeah.   The guy from that was in in 01/09,   the lieutenant. Oh.  

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Oh, okay.   Yeah. Tony Tony is too Shoot. Tony made  

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a bank. But he's not making bank. Like  

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that. He's not doing a PTSD thing. That what that'll do, if you get PTSD,   they'll knock you out of having firearms   because they say, oh, you got a mental disorder.   You know? Screw that. Oh, really?  

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Yeah. Yeah. It's a trap. I love you anyway.  

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Yeah. It's a trap. This is okay, Brad. We love you anyway.  

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Damn. Okay. So 35 people on here listening still.   We're we're back. Really?  

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Yeah. Hey, Brad.  

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Yeah. We better get back to the subject matter then.  

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Yeah. There's no 30  

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You mean there's a subject matter now?  

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Yeah. Well, damn.   We were just talk we were just brainstorming   about military that I know 35 people are.  

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Uh-huh. Hey, Brad. But, actually,   actually, it's 36,   and, we're still streaming.  

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Wow.   Yeah. Well, I won't say anything about cremating   or ask anything that way.   Oh my goodness. We have fun.  

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Oh, that's that's good. That's interesting now. Okay.  

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Oh,   here's something. After,   Mike Gaddy's show tonight,   like, what he'll do, he'll dump everybody off. You know, it'll say goodbye.   What me and another person or whoever else wants to, we dial right back or go right back in.   And we we end up talking for, like, six hours until the system dumps us off.  

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Okay. Hey. I'm I'm down for that now. What no. What time let me see if I got the time here,   for the show. I I got let me go back in my thread here. What time is the actual show? You said 08:00 our time, eastern time?  

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Yep. Eight until It's 05:00 your time?  

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Yep. Okay. So 08:00.   Tony, let's get on there, right, tonight. Yeah. Okay.   But let me see. Where where did that,   Julie put in the thread, but I'm trying to find  

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I,   I put it,   on the chat and, you know, Julie,   I don't know who's on what,   but somebody can copy it and get it to you guys.  

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If you could just text it to me right quick, that'd be cool, just so I have it. Well, alright. Well,  

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here's what you can do. You got a pencil or pen?  

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Oh, Neil. Hold on.   Tony, you got one?  

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No. I'm just gonna text it in the group chat.  

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Well well Oh, he's not in our group chat.  

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Oh, ready to copy?   No. No. No. No. Here here here's my phone number.   (626)   676-9276.   Got it? Good.  

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Okay. 662-6976?  

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No. No.   (626)   676-9276.   9 2 7 6.   And that's the cell phone. Don't say nothing else.  

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Okay.   Oh, miss Tony. Okay. Tony, I just put it in the chat.   Now now Sorry. Brent, I'm gonna text you and then,   wait a minute. Julie Julie put something.  

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I just put it in the chat.  

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Okay. Let's see. Oh, I just put in there too, Tony. Because we put we both put it in there.   Okay. But the link,   I know I got the your dudiyhealth.com.  

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I got that. Diyhealth.  

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Yeah. That's the oh, that's the that's the one we we dialed that tonight?  

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No. No. That's 38   And, are you able to put, the FCC   app on your phone?  

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I'm sure I can. Let me try try do it right now. FCC app. Let me go to my Yeah. It's the free pre conference call. That I'm on the app myself.   Okay. FCC app?   Yeah. FCC   search.  

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You're the 727   number. Right?  

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Yes. 727798   Yeah. 3092.  

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Yeah. I got it here on the,   like, they have a list, and it has the phone numbers and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Let me get Oh, no problem.  

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I mean, Julie did put okay. Free comp well, I can just call into the,   the 6266   oh, no. That's that's, Julie, you put the number in too, Julie. Let's hook it.   Free conference call app. Yeah.  

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And there's William. Right? Dial Yeah. William. Uh-huh.  

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You can dial in by phone, or you can connect with a computer, smartphone, or tablet using the free conference call app.   That way you can see the chat. Is that Larry? You can see,   you know, all the people that are there. You can see how many people are on and stuff.  

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Right. Three   that that's Larry. Right?  

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No. Come No. No. There's no call.   No. No. No. This is Oh, no. No. That's, Paul.  

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Oh, about a Raider. They sound like. Okay.  

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What? What?  

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Alright.   Okay. I got the FCC now. Let me install that right quick here.   Okay.   Yeah. I'd rather get on the app. Then I can see you got more action on the app. And I can see that I can go into the,   chat. Yeah. I can go into the chat and everything then.   See, back in day, we all get a little free conference calls.  

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Either you've got a really, really bad speaker on your phone or you're tripping.   I don't sound like Larry.   Larry don't sound like me.  

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You guys all sound the same.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was about to say.   That's what I was about to say.   Dimplexion. Hey. I'm a be I'm a be on it at night, though. I'm gonna get on a call tonight there. They'd be,   it's 08:00 call.   05:00 with, western time.  

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Oh, here's a here's a quick question.   What was the first communist party   in this country   and when?  

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The first communist party in this country.   Oh, I know Karl Marx was dealing with Lincoln.  

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And he Wasn't it wasn't it something to do with, the black people?   No. Because it was a lot of black people in the organization.  

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No.   No.   You you were right, William.   Lincoln was dealing with Marx.  

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Yep. Lincoln is the party.   Yep.  

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Yep. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You lost me.   How was He did. What what was the question again?  

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What was the first communist party   and when?  

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So you're saying that the Republican Party that Lincoln was   in Yep. That was the front of communist party?  

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Yep.   Ripebond, Wisconsin.  

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Yep.   Wait a minute. Say it. I I'm familiar with Lincoln's correspond with with Ingalls and Marx, but when you you said Wisconsin,   clarify that.  

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That's where all the German emigre,   went. A lot of  

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them. Oh, to Midwest there. To Wisconsin.   Homeboy,   Mississippi. In Oklahoma.  

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Hi, baby. Well, they were called the forty   they were called the forty eight ers.  

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Yeah. The forty eighters. Now the forty eighters,   they they were the ones that tried to lead the the failed revolution,   communist revolution in in, Europe.   And after the revolution, then they ran over here because they said, oh, America would be more sympathetic to us than than these guys in Europe. Yeah. They called us forty eight is. It was it was in German,   the Germany, Prussia, and they lost. So they migrated,   and they joined the party of,   Abraham Lincoln. Most of the generals were ex military.   So now I tell you my source. So go ahead. I'm sorry.  

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So that makes you   that makes you say that, so that   that says that,   well,   because   the '48 ers came over here and joined,   the Republican   Party, that makes you say that the Republican They started it.  

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That was when the Republican Party was started around that time.  

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It's not the same thing now compared to that time. Yeah. Yeah. No. They flip they just flip. They flipped.  

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And remember, they didn't have Lincoln. What about   well, what about Nixon   and   and those guys?  

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Can you say it again, Tony? Republican.  

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They weren't Republican  

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back then. Wait a minute, Tony. Say that again. I didn't hear you. I was asking about Andrew Jackson. Oh, no. No. Yeah. Andrew Jackson was a heroic figure, but, no, they weren't the did it it wasn't the republicans then. They were the wigs then.   Mhmm.   Yeah. Abraham Lincoln also was Jewish this time.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Abraham Abraham   Abraham Springsteen.  

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Yeah. It makes sense. Hey. Hey. Brent, are you the gentleman just talking? What source did you get that from? Because I got my source from,   was it Michael Kennedy, Tony?  

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The name of that Red Republicans?  

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Is Red Republican.   Yeah. The Red Republican? Lincoln and Lincoln's Mark. It's by Walter Kennedy.   Yeah. Walter Ken  

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Somebody  

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Benson junior. Somebody Yeah. Me and Tony are reading that currently reading that right now. We're doing a study on that.  

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Oh, wow. You might wanna bring that up to Mike.   In fact, if you call in   at about 07:30   or or get on,   the app at, 07:30   tonight, your time Uh-huh.   Mike will be on doing prep,   and a few of us will be on there. I come on at 04:30   myself   and, you know, 07:30 your time.   And, you know, we chitchat about different   stuff.  

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Oh. Now also also I'm cross referencing that particular book with Everything You Were Taught About the Civil War Is Wrong,   and that's by Lachlan Seabrook. He talks a lot about   those things as far as and then also there's,   a book by another book that I'm cross so right now, I'm cross referencing three books,   and another one. The third one is Mike s King,   Dixieland   Deceived.   So it's talking about again and stuff. So that's why you'll you'll often times hear us when somebody just pops off and says something like, I think her name was Mirka.   She was saying something about the,   We The People thing.  

You will often hear us say, well, quote your source or give a source because   we're readers. We like to read and find out where you historically and where it's written at, where you where you got that from.  

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Yeah.   Mike's big into that too. Well,   he has   cases   of certified,   you know, stamp stuff from,   National Archives.  

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Can you say that again? He has what now?  

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He has cases   of documents   that are seal you know, signed, sealed, and, you know, stuff from the National Archives.   Okay.   The stuff you hear him talk about   is right from those documents.  

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Okay.   Oh, interesting.   Well, here, Mike, I'm gonna send you the book right quick that we're reading on that we're studying from,   out of it.  

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Or is it available in PDF?  

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I'm so Well, I don't know. I I think I got a book.  

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Yeah. I I do too, but I'm suffering the Italian malady.   My funds are low.   What's that? I see. Vision and Gotcha. My fun my funds are low. Mafunza low. Oh, oh, oh,  

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shit.   I got you.   Okay.   Well, here,   we get a we get a we use mil our military discount, and we buy most of our books from the American Free Press and the Barnes Review.   And so we get the military discount.  

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Uh-oh.   I didn't know they had one. Damn.  

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Yeah. I'll I'll I'll bring a military discount every chance I get.  

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Oh, hell. Yeah. Yeah. That that's paying off nowadays.   Oh, yeah. Happen  

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over here in Vegas. Do this. Hey. Why don't we do this?   If Bren is interested, man,   at one point or another, we can give Jason a call over there at the Barnes Review   or American Free Press. And then   and and if you you know,   talk to him while he's on the phone with us so that way we can make sure he gets that discount.  

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Mhmm. Yeah. We could do that. Mhmm. Brent, check your text real quick. I just sent it to you.  

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Oh, okay.   Yeah. Not any time   soon,   on talking to him because I'm, you know, prepping for this trip and,   you know, it's gonna be costly. So, you know,   but family.   Yeah.   That's   well, you're up in the you're over near,   where the Panhandle,   ends.   Well, no. When it starts going south.  

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No. I'm Tampa. Clearwater area? Yeah. Yeah. We're in Clearwater Tampa. Yeah.  

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Yeah. That that's about at that crook.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah.  

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Yeah. It's a couple hundred miles across that panhandle, though.  

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Damn. Well, you might you and Alabama, we might come up there and meet you up there.  

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Yeah. It's in Gadsden.   You know, about 50 miles north of Birmingham.   Okay. Well, I've been there before. And and they'll they'll talk about it tonight.   What what? They'll talk about what tonight?   That Audi.   It's gonna be on,   it's gonna be on Sunday, the twenty seventh.   All of April?  

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Yep. Okay.  

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Yeah. I'm a get off work,   the twenty first, which is a Monday   because I work Saturday, Sunday, Mondays,   you know, because I'm old.   And,   I'm gonna take off, you know, that way.  

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Oh, okay.   Okay. Well, real real quick, though, Brent. Do you see the book I sent to you? The very republican Marxism in the Civil War by Walter Kennedy and Oh, okay. Now I'm a take I'm a tell you the problem I have with this book, though. I'm a tell you the problem.   He he he he denounces Hitler, which to me, I I like Hitler, by the way. He denounces Hitler,   and he also says he always he   he keeps referring throughout the book   on Hitler and comparing it to Marxism when he seems to not understand that Hitler was fighting against communism.   Hitler was not a communist. He was fighting against it, but he never   well, I'm gonna say never because I've seen parts of it now commented about about the fifth or sixth chapter.  

The Bolshevik   revolution is what he should have been referencing,   Lenin, Trotsky,   and those forces.   But I think you're trying to stay away from critic criticizing Jews   in the in the book to a certain degree.  

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May I interrupt  

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I'm sorry. Go ahead.  

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You're chopping up I don't know if it's my phone, but you're chopping up really bad. It's your phone. I'm sorry.  

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It's my phone.  

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Yep. He sound fine. It's your phone.  

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Mhmm.   Yeah. Because I I can barely hear you too. I heard you say something, but then it became destroyed.  

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She left.   She Oh. She she'll probably do that. Paul  

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this is this is Paul Larry?  

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Yes. This is Paul.  

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Hey. Actually, why don't you guys go to Florida, swing by, say hello to Larry, and then you'll understand  

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how I don't sound like him. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Because he definitely got a New York accent.  

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You know what? That's what I'm gonna need to do. I'm not gonna talk without a u New York accent ever again.  

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Oh, man.   Oh, okay. I got you I got you down now, Paul. I got you. Okay. But, yeah, I I we like the book, though, because we got it from the like I said, the Barnes Review and American Free Press, they've they've really given us a lot of information on the populist movement and and,   you know, the communism and and stuff like that. So and and Especially a lot of stuff on Hitler. A lot of stuff on Hitler.  

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Yep.   Oh, he's No. Side note, Will.   Side note, Will. There was a, remember the,   the YouTube   video that I put in of Hitler's speech is the speech, and it was in English.   Mhmm. Yeah. And you could actually understand what he was talking about.   I I don't know. I think   we should put that in somebody's chat, man, so people could really Oh, yeah. Let me do that right now. Thank you. I got it. I've heard that. Was actually I've heard that, but it's the kind of thing that you cannot hear too many times.  

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He was looking out for he was he was protecting his people  

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from Yeah.  

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From,   predators.  

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Predatory lenders. Yeah. Well, the Versailles treaty would really gave rise to Hitler, the Versailles treaty, and the Jewish connection with that.  

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Well, the pornography   and child trafficking Well, yeah. The Weimar Republic. They were pulling. Yep.  

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Yep. That's the Weimar Republic.   Mhmm. Yeah. It was Can you guys tell me Let me put that let me get send that to you all right quick. I wish I could put it in the chat, but I'm on the phone. So hold on. Let me just   Tony had sent that to me, and I thought it was really it was really,   enlightening.   Is Hitler giving it if you know, it's trans can translate over to English.   Word to word, though, they say. I think I heard a German   guy.  

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The yeah. There's one guy, that   is on here a lot.   He had,   put up a a YouTube thing that had Hitler's speeches,   you know, giving it in English,   you know, unadulterated.  

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Yes. Yes.   Yes.  

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And I the problem is I don't think those speaker.  

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He was. Problem is I don't think those channels are gonna be up long,   especially if they they paint Hitler in a light that's opposing to the official narrative.   YouTube will can will censor those guys. So  

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Yeah.   Yeah. That's true.   Now one thing I one thing I I did like that Larry brought up well, I mean, not Larry,   that, Roger brought up. When we first went somebody was talking about the creature from Jekyll Island, and he said that,   there was no real references to to the Jewish question in there, and I I beg to differ on that. But   when he when he went into depth on, who G. Edward Griffin was and talking about you Eustace Mullins' viewpoint of him, I went and did some research. And I do have Eustace Mullins' book, and I'm a big fan of Eustace Mullins because I'm the big fan of Ezra Pound.   And Ezra Pound is that's how I learned about Eustace Mullins was through Ezra Pound because I got all Ezra Pound's material.  

And so I I looked at this video, and I've got it now, the interview   where where you Eustace Mullins is saying that,   talking about g Edward Griffin and coming from the,   John Birch Society   and writing the book and, I guess, downplaying the,   the Jewish influence   on the creation of the Federal Reserve.   So that was that was that was I didn't I didn't know that at at the beginning. I, you know, I was already ranted and raved about G. Edward Griffin   and Eustace Mullins, but no most people weren't familiar with Eustace Mullins, so I always referred to a G. Edward Griffin.  

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But if you've read, Eustace Mullins, you know he ain't too hot on us.   He ain't too hot on us.  

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Yeah.   But you know you know what, though, Britt? That kind of stuff doesn't bother me because I'm not too hot on them.   Okay.   To be to be honest,   who would  

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No. Lie to me a little bit more.  

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I mean, the white liberals what I can't stand, I can't stand the white liberals. The white that's why I when I got on the phone and they were dealing with the Jewish question, that's the only reason why I stayed is because y'all weren't kowtowing around the Jewish question.   Oh, we don't tiptoe around those terms. Yeah. And but I found that most of most of the patriot groups do tiptoe around the Jewish question.  

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Mhmm. I'm not sure that's even a question.  

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True.   True.   True.   And I wanna say I do like Candace Owens. I like what Candace Owens is saying. Does anybody agree or no?  

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Yep.   She's getting with it. It's killing it. Yeah.  

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Hey. I got something.   Go ahead. You guys ready?  

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Yeah. Go ahead.  

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Docs.exposethematrix.com.   If you're into books Okay.  

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Somebody put that in there. But wait a minute. Before you go further, Paul that's Paul. Right? Yep.   Yeah. Before you go any further, somebody put that in the chat. I'm looking for this Hitler thing. Somebody put that in the chat. Tony, put that in the chat. What what is it called?  

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Docs.exposethematrix.com.  

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Make sure you get it, Tony. Brent, you're familiar with that? Yeah.   Okay.  

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I just pulled up that link, and it's a Google Drive of all the files. It's pretty sweet.  

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Yeah. Not it's not coming up?  

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No.   I think yeah.   They well, I had dots spelled the wrong way. I put it with a x instead of a a c. No. It's d o c s   Mhmm. That exposed the matrix to the cloud. It's just it's it's telling me that it can't be reached.   Can't be found. What?  

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Wait a minute. Hang on just a second.   Oh, wait a minute.  

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It might be something on my end.  

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Yeah. I think so. Let me see. Because if it's not something on your end, it would be something on my end,   and that would be a problem.  

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I was able to tell it, are you able to hear me? I couldn't get to it. I can't get Paul, send it directly to me right quick then. Let me see if I can do it that way. Just send it directly to me, Paul.  

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So Oh, no. Came up. Now it came up. I just posted it, William. Tell me. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm looking at I'm in another site right now. I'm trying to find this hidden thing. I just posted it. The last one the last one that you put in came up. The first the the first one did not. Yeah. Because I put HTTPS  

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in the second one.  

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Okay.   Okay. Thanks, Julie. I'm trying to Tony, where'd you put that damn thing? When I put this in?  

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I saved it in my Dropbox, but,   I would have to  

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Just send a text thread. I wanna send it to Brent right quick and then or you put in the chat. Well, I can't put in the chat   because I'm on the phone, so I have to send it to people individually.  

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You can just copy from the chat. Copy paste.  

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But I'm not in the oh oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. I'll send it to you. I'll send it to put it in our chat, then you can copy paste. Put it in wasn't real? It was a Hitler one.   Damn it. You know, about about what was it? Like, about a hour or how long was it? Yeah. Yeah. About a hour. About a hour. A little bit over an hour. That's one of my favorite speeches. That's why I'm pissed off I can't find. It's in the thread here. I just I'm just not   March.   White people never   what's that? White people that's what Russell sent. I don't know. Lies about race. Oh, that bullshit that Russell that race shit that Russell talks about.  

Your buddy Russell.  

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They got you know, they they also got a d A b I. A d I. Minecraft, speech in here too.  

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Well, get the book. I tell people, did you get the book?   I got the book.  

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Nowadays,   I try and do audiobooks,   you know, because I got all kinds of crap going on in life and,   you know, tomorrow isn't promised.   So,   you know, I try and listen to things, you know, as I'm doing other things.   And I find that this and I find that listening   is just about as you know, it sticks as much as reading.  

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Yeah. I agree.   Oh, by the way, y'all, that's on rumble.com.   It's the Hitler speech about the Jewish question in English. It's on rumble,rumble.com.   But, Judy, I'll send it. I'll put it I'll put it in the chat. I found it. But let me I'll copy and paste it, Julie. I'll put it in the, in our group text,   and then you can send it put it in the   other one.   Okay. There. I'm in Julie.   Okay. Julie, here it comes.   Paste.   Okay, Julia. I just put it in there. And, Brent?   Yeah. Okay. You said you got the book?  

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Yeah. I I I got your,   text. Okay.  

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Yep. And I'm gonna send these other things to you too, Brent, right quick here, the Hitler speech. I just sent that to you. That's the   when when you can listen to.  

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Okay. Cool.   Have you seen a video series called   Europa,   the last battle?  

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I haven't seen the series, but I have heard of it.  

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The first the first part of it talks about the Bolsheviks.   It's only an hour long.   Oh,   man. I I read a book   back in when I was 15,   that was eons ago.   But Yeah. What's the I tried to find the   I tried to find the smallest book I could find that would explain communism   because back then Uh-huh. All you heard was communist this, communist that, but nobody would explain   what the hell it was,   and I wanted to know.   And so,   you know, I found this book in the school library,   and   I wasn't able to talk to anybody   for over forty years   about what I read in that book   because nobody   had the background   to talk about it   until I saw Europa.  



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Wow.   Wait a minute. You talking about the movie?   Yeah. Or a book?  

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I I had got a book   back when I was 15   out of the school library and read it. You know? I just wanted a quick definition   of communism   Right. Or explanation.   And I wasn't able to talk to anybody about what I read in that book   for over forty years because nobody had the background   or or mindset   to talk about it Isn't that until I saw   that movie Europa.  

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I'm gonna now I wonder if I can get that on, when can I see that on, Netflix?  

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It's   well, I put I posted it on VX,   you know, the Russian Facebook,   and,   I have some other links and stuff, you know, I can get to you.  

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Oh, yeah. Get to it. Get yeah. Send it to me then,   Brent. When you get a chance, send that stuff to me because I would anything on the Bolshevik revolution, I'm very much interested in. Because   Yeah. And I'll tell you why. Let me tell you why, Brent. Because I have a lot of Jewish peep people I play I'm a pickleball player, and a lot of Jewish folks a lot of liberal Jews or Jews in general play pickleball with me. And we get into debates all the time about the Holocaust.   And they they call me a Holocaust denier, and I said, no. I'm not a Holocaust denier.   I do question a lot of this stuff that goes on with it. And I said, there's Jews that have written books   that have disputed the Holocaust.  

The one one   was, Arthur Butz who wrote the book, the big I think it is I'm paraphrasing. The biggest hopes of the the greatest hopes of the twentieth century or nineteenth century was the presumed extermination of German Jewry written by Arthur Butz. And then there was a transfer agreement by Arthur Black I mean, Evan Black Yep. Both Jews.   Now I read both of those books, and then after you study the Bolshevik Revolution and you see that the Jews who came to power   massacred   over   40 to 60,000,000   white Christians.   And they got the nerve to talk to me about 6,000,000 Jews when they murdered sixty, forty to 60,000,000   white Christians in Europe and Russia?  



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Yeah. Wait a minute. And so million Jews And then   on the 6,000,000   number, they were trying   to, throw that on people from the late   eighteen hundreds  

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all the way to World War two, and it finally stuck. In World War two, it finally stuck. Yeah. Because I've got it where they where they tried to do it in World War one.  

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Yep. Even before that in the eighteen eighties and stuff.  

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Yeah. I like to see that because I know I I got information that takes me back to World War one, but I didn't have it from back to the eighteen eighties or whatever. So I'd like to see that. If you got a source on that, shoot it to me when you get a chance.  

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Yeah. As far as in Europa. Got, in, MS King's book on that Rothschild planet, Rothschild volume one and two, he talks about that in in volume one where he talks about this this number six six thousand six million. It's all the number, and they used that back in the eighteen hundreds as well. And then it finally stuck.  

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You've got Europa right now.  

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Okay. You sent it to me?   Yep. Let me see let me see here. Hold on, Brent. Let me go make sure. Okay, Brent.  

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Don't forget to tell me this. Or  

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No, Brent. I don't see it yet.  

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It should be there. It says sent.  

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Okay. Let me give it a second or two then we okay. Yeah. Let me ask you, please.  

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It is coming cross country. So   Okay.  

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Julie, what did Julie just put in here? The Holocaust was one big lie   just like Sandy Hook, Nine One One Oklahoma City Bombing.   I don't know if I necessarily   I I know the Holocaust was a big lie. I just don't know about this. The I know nine one one was well, yeah. I have to agree with you. I just didn't know much about Sandy Hook, but I know about nine one one over on the city too. Sandy Hook was a lot too. Sandy Hook was a lot too. Well, I just didn't like that.   Alec Jones Alec Jones was pushing that narrative, and I didn't really have too much confidence in his,   his sensational.  



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It it wasn't it wasn't just Alex Jones, but it was also they they were actors.   Some of the actors that,   the the the parents,   they were in some other Uh-huh. Hit shows   that were red flags too. And he was like, well, wait a minute. You guys got good luck or they just you you know, something is wrong.  

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And they visited the white folks' house before   that happened.  

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Yeah. I see. I've been really looking at Sandy Hook, but I know about the other ones. Brent, hey. It still hasn't come through, and I really wanna make wait a minute. Let me see. Okay. No. I did. It just came through. I'm sorry, Brent. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. It says delivered. It says delivered now. Yep. I got it.   Okay. I'm a put it in our group chat to to Tony so you can see it too, you and Julie.   Mhmm. Julie just put that in. That's why Julie had put the, information about the,   the hoaxes.  

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Yep.  

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Hey, William.  

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Hey, William. Yes, ma'am.  

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You know, when you were mentioning your what you said to your pickleball   players  

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Oh, yeah.  

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About,   oh, don't tell me about the Jews being killed 6,000,000. What about the 60,000,000?  

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It is So I want that Wait a minute. Do you You're breaking up. I wanna hear you breaking up. Come close to the phone or something.   Okay. Go ahead, Dana.  

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Okay. Your your pickleball players, when you told them,   why are you talking about 6,000,000   Jews being holocausted when the Jews   before that, the Jews holocausted   60,000,000   people.   Did your do you remember actually saying that? And did you actually hear a reply from them on that?  

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No. That's when they shut up and get quiet. And one lady one Jewish lady asked me, well, how do you know about that? I said, what do you mean how do I know about that? Because I study and I read, and I know how you Jews are.   You lie about every damn thing. You're behind nine one one. They were the specific primary ones behind nine one one and the murder of Kennedy.   Yep. But, but we, we have some pretty discussion with the Jews.  

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I wonder if any of those Jew pickleball player I wonder if any of those Jew pickleball players will come around   to the truth  

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that you shared with them. Oh, yeah. Because remember Julie. Remember what I mean, not Julie. What's what's your name?  

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Joan.  

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Joan.  

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Is it Jill? Joan.  

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Joan, j o a n.  

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Oh, Joan. Okay, Joan. No. But Joan,   what I was saying was that,   oh, what was I saying? Oh, gosh. I want that was important too. What did you just ask me again, Joan? I I said, did any of them come did any of those pickleball Jew players   come around to the truth after you told them these truths? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because what I do is I give them references from their own people. That's why I told them about Arthur Butts and, Edwin Black. I said, well, go read their material.   Or I say, even look at the even look at,   the protocol of Larnell's design, which I'll dismiss as a hoax, but Victor Marsden was a reputable person who presented that. He was a he was a, what was it, a British journalist   in Russia, a Russian correspondent or whatever.  

But the but the,   the the protocol that the elder learned elder Zion, you could even take a look at that. And they always try to write it off as a hoax or or these people don't know what they're talking about. I'm saying, no. That's not true.   Yeah. They said it's challenge that.   Yeah.  

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But so but not one of the but not one of them have come around to ask you, oh, William, what you said was so good.   Can you tell me more can you tell me more?  

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Not one. Yeah. I'm   glad you said that, man. Jew   Uh-huh.   Go ahead. Go ahead, Brent. I'm sorry. Go ahead. No. No. I understand that. Jew Uh-huh.  

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The way this one Jew put it at work, when he used to work with us,   he'd go and mention the hola hoax,   and then I mentioned the transfer agreement.   He went   and shut up.  

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And did does people on his phone know about the transfer agreement? Because that's Edwin Black.   And that's what happened. And there weren't 6,000,000 Jews in all of Europe in the first place. But the Jews that did what what most of those Jews were that they say were holocaust that were transferred to the state of Israel.   That's what the that's what the transfer agreement with Edwin Black is about.   And he's a Jew. Yep. You know, we,  

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we were familiar with that about four years ago. It was brought up on here, and we talked about it for nearly a week.  

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Oh, it's a it's a dynamic subject. A matter of fact, let me tell you how I stumbled upon it. But because I wrote I I got a book from the thrift store for 25¢.   It was Rudy.   Yeah. What's the name, Tony? Rudy,   Rudy something big. Tom Donovich or something like that. Yeah. Rudy Tom Donovich with a I bought the book for 25¢ at a thrift store, and it had the star David on the front. And it said that this guy had a meat packing business   in the Midwest somewhere,   and his family was supplying the school systems of the Midwest or even I think in the country with the beef,   in the around the in the eighties.  

And somehow the other,   overnight,   his,   his his family business that they had for generations of supplying the meat to the schools in the in,   in   the nation   suddenly went belly up. And he said, well, how'd that happen?   And why they they they imprisoned the guy and they had accused him of all kind of falsehoods. But,   Tony, get the name of that book. You at the house, Tony? Oh, it's called The Score.  

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It's called the Score  

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by Okay. The Score. But but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but whatever is Yeah. Yeah. Screen shot it right quick if you can. But yeah. So I would the Score. And that they the one that he's the one that turned me on to Artabutts,   Edwin Black, and even Jean Racine. I can't maybe I'm castrating the name of mispronounced.   But Jean Racine,   the genocide myth. Carmen. Hold on. Yeah.  

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Go ahead. I'm sorry. The Stanko people came from Nebraska, and they,   Thank you. Thank you. They came from Nebraska.   They went   they bid a contract to supply the ground base for the United States Armed Forces.   And Excellent.   Great. That's where that it it all went downhill from there.  

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Thank you. Now what what what is your source? Did you get that how do you know about that? I've read the book.   What is the book that that would talk to the score? Rudy  

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Stanko. Butch was his nickname.   His grandfather   came   from I'm not gonna say, but,   his granddad   and his dad all had they had a packing business in Nebraska,   and they Exactly.   Oh, okay. It's been And and a year I've read it. No.  

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As a side in the book is where I first learned about   black slave owners.   When he mentioned that, I was like, wait a minute.   And I had to go back and go find out. So he was the first person   that mentioned it. He he kinda mentioned it in his book, and then I went and found other sources, and I was like, wow.  

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Have you read a, article   called We Thought They Were White?  

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Say it again, Brett.  

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There's a, article called   We Thought They Were White.  

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Oh, that that no. No. No. They were white, and they were slaves by Michael Hoffman.  

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No.   No. No. No. No. This is a different one. Roger had turned me on with several years ago,   and I went and PDF ed it. And I have it in the file on my computer,   and I've sent it to a few people.   But, you know, it hadn't been many people that wanted it. So No. I'd like to have it. Me and Tony want it.  

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Okay.   Yeah. Anything with the black slave on it so we could shut this crap up about slavery.   Well Blacks being the only slaves.  

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It it it it,   it talks about,   you know,   you know, black slavery,   but it talks about who really were the slave   dealers.   Oh, the Jews.   Uh-huh.   Yep. Correct them on. No. Fact  

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matter of fact, they're the good books.   Brent, they're the good book by the Nation of Islam about the secret relationship between blacks and Jews, volumes one, two, and three of the show. Louis Farrakhan,  

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Mike Gaddy talked about he did, like, a couple of shows on that.   Like, a couple of hours each.  

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That's a that would have been a great show. I would have loved to have been on that show.  

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Yep.   Do you have any dealings with, Louis Farrakhan   or any connections to it?  

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I knew Khalid Mohammed personally, but he died. So,   but we know people that that can get we know people that, I mean, like I said, Khaled was my man. Khaled,   you know, really spoke out.   Him and Moscow. But Khaled, I knew but, as far as Farrakhan, Tony, you have contacts. Right?  

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No. Roger's   Roger has been trying to get that this information   to Farrakhan.  

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Oh, we can get it to him, though. Status.   Oh, we can get that information to him. I don't know how receptive he'll be of it, though.  

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Uh-huh.   But that that that was some of his lieutenants.  

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Yeah.   Tony, what's the guy that is on,   on Syneda show all the time, the the young Muslim brother?   We can get in touch with him.   Mhmm. You know, the one they always he'd update you know, he'd always talk about   African history and,   Islamic history.  

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Young guy. He got he got a few of them, but I think I know you're talking about,  

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Ali. Yeah. Yeah. That's him. That's him.   But   but Brent, we can try to get in touch with Ali and try to see about, giving them   a  

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connected.  

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Yeah, man. Yeah. Get them get them to the website   and Roger's videos.  

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It'd be good if he can show something, you know, talk about the race question. You know? Because the nation Islam is all into that race nationalism as well.   Not not not as well as you are. You you know, you you're not you're not nationalist.   You're nationals.  

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Yep. But We're we're we're all inclusive.  

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Right. Right. And, you know, the nation, you're gonna have to you're gonna have to be able to talk to them from their their perspective first, and then we can kinda,   you know.  

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Well, I I I kinda think I I think that the the nation of Islam would be on the opposite side of what,   I don't know. What what what were you saying? Nationalist versus national?   Because they had Yeah. National. Yeah.   Yeah. They had secret,   relationship with the KKKs   as well, the KKK back in the sixties.   That's why they weren't bothered too much by the KKKs   back in the sixties. I mean, they had a relationship with them.   So I I don't know if we can look at them as black national   black nationals   versus nationalist.  

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Hey, Tony.   Hey, Tony.   Are you saying   are you saying that Farrakhan   had a   relationship No. A good I'm saying with the original KKK top people? Oh. No. I'm saying that  

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I'm no. I'm saying that Elijah Muhammad   Elijah Muhammad,   Farrakhan didn't come on until later in the scene.   In the sixties, there was,   the honorable Elijah Muhammad.  

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Uh-huh.  

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He was the leader of the organization   by,   master Farah Muhammad   who him and, who who actually organized it. But   Elijah Muhammad was the one who had,   a relationship with the KKK.  

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A good relationship.  

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Yes.   A business type of relationship.   A a political type of relationship.  

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They liked each other. Comment, please.   Go ahead.  

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You know, I've   I grew up when Farrakhan was in the news.   And while I am not in agreement with his   religious   standing,   never heard anything else politically that he ever said that I did not agree with.   I thought he's an upstanding man myself.  

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Yeah. Well, now we have our we have our disagreement with him in in the in the so called in the black community because   he was,   he was the one that called for the death of Malcolm. And Malcolm X was our hero   because he exposed he exposed,   Elijah Muhammad's,   hypocrisy   and and,   Farrakhan was Elijah Muhammad's stooge.   So Farrakhan called for the death of Malcolm. That's the thing that we didn't like in in the black community.   But other than that, I have to agree with you. I do I do unite with a lot of stuff that Farrakhan says politically.  

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Now also take note   that   as long as back then, as long as the,   black man was calling,   you know,   white man,   the devil, and, you know, this and that and the third, everything was   copacetic.   Everything was fine.   Only then when Malcolm x,   came back   from, what was it?   Mecca. Mecca. Mecca. When he came back from Mecca and he had a new idea and a new strategy, only then,   you you know,  

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was he killed off. Well, he was making it, yeah, he was making his transition before the end tone because Yeah. Remember   yeah. And then yeah.  

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But then when he came back, he had met   others over there who were not of his skin color. And they were, you you know, and it was like, wait a minute. And the same thing, I think, would apply to,   Martin Luther King as well. It was only when   they started to form a relationship that things got worse.  

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So does Malcolm x have some followers who would be that y'all know about that would be interested in Rogers   and your message?  

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That would mean ancient now.  

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Yeah. That Malcolm x is dead.  

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Yeah. But his I thought maybe some, you know,   followers   through the generations.  

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No? No followers? I will say say your question again. Would he have followers that would what? Does does he does Malcolm x have followers?  

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Or, I mean,   generations   from from before that have followed   Malcolm x's   thing,   that are still around?  

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Are there Oh, yeah. You see it you see it all the time on social media. People are posting whatever Malcolm X said back then.   You know, posting is Good. Reason.  

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How about would they be receptive to Roger's message?  

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Yeah.   Would they?  

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I don't know.  

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Are they your   are did I mean, do you get along with do you get along with those  

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followers? Well, let me   Malcolm Yeah. Let me put it yeah. Let me put it this way.   Me and Tony,   I come from the African I come from the Black revolutionaries, the Black Panther Party and the African People's Soldiers Party. So I'm more associated with them, where Tony   is more associated with not not the Nation of Islam,   but the, the Moors.   So Okay. We look we're much more aggressive. The Nation of Islam is nothing but a a Christian church. It's a bunch of Christian pacifist church, and I can't stand Christian pacifist.   But that's all the Nation of Islam. I mean, they talk a big game, but they're not gonna do anything from a revolutionary perspective.  

Whereas   the Moors are the the, the black revolutionaries   whom we're more in contact with   would be more probably prone   to accept this type of ideology because it's, it's action oriented. It's not just praying to some god in the sky or praying to Allah or whomever,   abstract sense. Like, for instance, Christians,   I can't stand these Christians running around here talking about, you know, they know the Bible, but they're not rebelling against the system. They're just living fine with the corruptness of the system. Romans the thirteenth chapter   draws that distinction   and even,   given to Caesar that which is Caesar, that would that's taken totally out of context as well to me. Yeah. And Christians, to me, aren't revolutionary   enough   whether we wanna stand up on these principles. Every Christian should be part of y'all program. Every Christian should be a national.  

Agree.  

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Yeah. And at one point in time so to go back to your question,   I mean, when I had mentioned even earlier,   well, late last week when I had mentioned to Julie about all of the names of the people who we have dealt with when it comes to   whether it be national,   UCC,   correction status, or whatever it was, at some point in time, they were Moores as well.   So to answer your question,   Moors would be   probably   more receptive   to the information   at hand now to the subject matter at hand now. Moors would probably be because, like I said earlier, I came from the Niobean Nation of Moors, and we were trying to claim   indigenous status coming up through Ouachita Nation,   which were people who were here first.  

And so we had we we were receptive   to the ideology   of status correction   and and things like that.   No longer calling yourself a citizen, but being indigenous,   having the indigenous rights and things like that. So the Moors would probably be more receptive, but that's not to say   some of the black Hebrew Israelites that I've dealt with   or,   you know, people of that have they or nation of Islam, they won't be receptive because you you just never know. But,   they were more on a religious side of it where, like, Will just said that   if you follow the bible and if you are a true Christian,   you should be more action oriented.  

Matthew five and thirty eight tells you  

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You lost your connection. Go ahead and repeat.  

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I'm sorry. So,   I don't know what was the last thing you heard, but I would just say Matthew  

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five eight?  

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Yeah. Matthew five and thirty eight tells you that, and that's why I stopped.  

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So you mentioned UCC.   What is their focus?  

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So UCC is dealing, I think, in my opinion, and Will may be able to help me along a little further. But in my opinion, I think the UCC   deals with,   public policy,   in order to be in in in the public.   I mean, you you so where they talk about a straw man, and you learn how to deal with the straw man, and you learn how to stay   pub, private.   Whereas with the UCC, you learn how to deal with public   policies, but on a public side by using UCC.  

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And you need to stay  

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private side. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.  

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I'm I'm   I'm done.  

[01:24:22] Unknown:

Okay.   So so let's say if if,   someone because I I'm thinking now that,   the the nationals   should   be business owners because,   if   if,   we're creating creating,   creating something, a,   and since, all the investments basically are owned by   the brokers,   that would be a way   of,   investing in something that had value   and hopefully retaining some ownership.   So the the those ones that focus on the UCC,   would that be   beneficial to a national   because of that? Because you're trying   to build something   of value   and may wait maintain   some ownership of it in your opinion?   I'm not hearing anything.  

Hello?   Are are you there?  

[01:25:21] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm sorry. Somehow or another, I got muted out. I don't know what just happened.  

[01:25:25] Unknown:

Okay. I didn't I didn't hear I didn't hear your response.  

[01:25:28] Unknown:

Yeah. I think I was muted out.   I'm sorry.   Thing I last heard you say something about ownership.  

[01:25:35] Unknown:

Well, you know, you know how our our investments   through, like,   different, four zero one k's are really the the ones that get re reimbursed if something goes up   is the brokers or whoever owns the you know? And so I I've been thinking recently, we should as nationals, we all should kind of look towards   having some type of business   in order to create something that we can maintain some some measure of   ownership,   maintain some type of ownership.   And so the UCC   people,   is that a good avenue for nationals is in your opinion?  

[01:26:17] Unknown:

I think it is, but I think, one, you should always strive to be a business,   a business owner because I think that's your duty.   You you you have a duty   to to be able to stand or should be able to stand on your own two feet   and not depend I mean, you you have a right to contract, and that's essentially what we are doing when we go to work for these corporations.   You go and you contract with them,   but you give a lot, you give away a lot of your freedoms.   So I I mean, like I said, maybe Will can help me out a little bit more than that, but I think that, as a as a free man on land, I guess, you can say, as a national,   you could use   the UCC as a strategy   to help you win this endeavors.  



[01:27:02] Unknown:

Can you hear me? Uh-huh.   Oh, good. Okay. I kept going in and out. I didn't mean to cut you off, Tony, but I want I did wanna chime in on that. Yeah. I Okay. Pretty much and I didn't say nothing else. Okay. So so   if I'm if I'm answering your question, right, do you see that's why see, I come from the UCC movement. Okay? And that's why I started out with my whole thing was primarily   finances finances at the time.   But then after reading The Creature from Jekyll Island,   and then studying Ezra Pound and Eustace Mullins   and others of that magnitude, I started to gravitate towards, wait a minute. This is a way of living for us. This is not I just don't wanna   just free myself from debt. It's one aspect of it, but I've got to learn to internalize it. I've got to live as a free man. I got to encourage those around me to live as a free person too because this system is what is corrupt.  

But then if you look at the Bible   in Ephesians six and twelve, it talks about the and I'm paraphrasing.   It talks about the distinction between   the flesh and the blood and the fictions that we've created.   So we are the flesh and the blood. We give guidance to all of this fiction. All of this is fiction to me, not just the monetary system, but the whole political system, the corporate system, etcetera.   It is all fiction and we have to give it direction.   But since we haven't given it direction, it's become our Frankenstein, I guess you would say, or our rulers, our enslavers.   But we're the ones ultimately   responsible for it. Now in the UCT movement, like I said,   they just focus on as you most of you know probably is just the financial aspect which is in itself   a strength because I was discharging debt. We were discharging homes, we were discharging cars.  

Of course, I ran into a a problem where I was, you know, accused of uttering forged instruments and facing fifty years of prison back in 02/2003 and 02/2004.   And so I kinda backed off of it, but what we didn't understand at the time in Queen Bernadette, Jacob Bick brought my attention to it was that once you discharge the debt, and we should be discharging all of this all of our these so called belonging. We should discharge all this stuff and put it in some to some type of trust   and to protect it. But we should we shouldn't just leave and let them enrich themselves off of us.   We need to probably   attack them from a UCC perspective to cripple their economy.  

So to answer your question, I think that UCC is very beneficial   in this nationalist,   or this national viewpoint or this national strategy that you have.  

[01:29:38] Unknown:

Okay. So,   if I wanted   to have an understanding of the UCC where I could,  

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benefit from it, where what would you where would I start? Okay. You start in the right place because you became a national first, so you're not going to into it for materialistic   reasons. Okay?   But Howard Freeman   wrote the UCC connection. Any anybody on the call familiar with Howard Freeman?  

[01:30:00] Unknown:

Yep.   Howard I think it was one of the first things I read.  

[01:30:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay. Brent Brent, you could probably expound on that better than me then. But I I've read that I was really impressed with Howard Freeman's the UCC connection.  

[01:30:13] Unknown:

Well, I was a novice   back then,   and, I'd have to dig it out if I even still have it.   But, you know, it Okay. Spurred me to move.  

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Actually, I hope that What's the lady's name? Okay. You have it. Do you have it? I do. I do. I haven't read it yet, but I I will start there. I do have it.  

[01:30:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Please. Please. Look at that. I mean, because I think that he he he's critical of the UCC as well as in informing as well as informing us of the real tangible   aspects of it. He he he he gives the equal   or balanced   perspective of it, in other words.   Howard Freeman, the UCC connection.   Okay. I appreciate it. That it yeah. I don't think we should totally discard that. I've heard Roger say that as well.   And I I don't I don't you know, I think that there's some element of, viability   to the UCC connection.  

[01:31:08] Unknown:

Okay. Thank you. Mhmm. Then also and then also, Will, to add to what you were just saying earlier   about once you discharge those debts   and learning, we we we have to learn how to move in because we put ourselves in this box.   So now we learn how to to strategy   strategically   move   in the public system. And so one of the things you said earlier was using trust,  

[01:31:34] Unknown:

And that was the young lady, Nicole, when we talked to late last year, she was talking about the five zero one c three and the five zero eight c one a. And Now wait a minute. Wait right there. Hold on just a minute. And if anybody knows about the five zero eight c one a, I think just Tony mentioned, please chime in because I'd like to hear more of that from a different perspective. Go ahead, Tony.  

[01:31:52] Unknown:

Yeah. So and I think   once we get rid of those or discharge those debts, we need to be putting our things,   in a trust.   Just like,   what is his name? Rockefeller did when he came out with the famous   Yeah. Kennedy and Rocco. Yeah. Yeah. Kennedy and Rocco. I own nothing. Control everything.   So, I mean, we wanna be able to step outside of the box, but still be able to control the box.  

[01:32:22] Unknown:

And and just to note,   they're gonna come after you when you do the UCC because what the UCC is really about is we're going after the Federal Reserve banking system. Okay? That's what we that's that's what we're going about. Most of us don't know that. We just think we're getting some type of financial relief.   But in reality, you are fighting against the Federal Reserve system   banking system or the central banks, and they don't play about their money. And like Raja   said, give me control of the nation's economy, and I care not who writes its laws.   Oh, I can hear you. Go ahead. I was ranting and raving. I'm sorry. Go ahead.  



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Can you hear me? Hello?  

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I can hear  

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you.  

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Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? I I can hear you. Can anybody else hear you? We can hear you. 12.   1 2 1 2.   Oh, he probably can't hear us. Can you hear me now? We can hear you. We can hear you, but you can't hear us. I think that's what it is.   Okay.   Hey. Now the young lady that asked about the UCC connection,   also, Brett, I don't know if you've read   Peter Kirchow, Economic Solutions.  

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No.  

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Oh, okay. That was another good one too. That's kinda like it it it should explain the monetary system and the tax system in the 05/2001,   with the 05/2001 c three   I think that how the church would become c three or five way c one a?   No. No. The five zero one c three would that's what he extensively goes in that and talks about how the churches   all become five zero one c threes, and that's actually a compromise. That that's a contradiction.  

[01:33:53] Unknown:

Mhmm. The five zero one to do it.   They could've stayed the way they were and been free of everything and talk about what they want.   Under the c three, they can't do jack.  

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Can't do jack. To the five zero eight c one a,  

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you can. You're just putting Are you familiar are you familiar with that,  

[01:34:13] Unknown:

Brent or anybody else? No. I've never heard of it till now.  

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Say it again slowly.   Five what?  

[01:34:21] Unknown:

Okay. Go ahead, Tony. Man, I didn't say so many numbers. I didn't confuse myself. What did I say? 505081   Yeah. 5081   It's an extension of the 503,   but it has exceptions.   And one of the exceptions is   I don't have to follow this 5011,   508,   what is it? (505)  

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015-0138  

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or whatever they're not. One of the the exceptions.   I'm telling you, it's basically telling the IRS   as putting them on notice to say, hey. I'm telling you   that   I am a 508 c one a, and I don't have to follow the rules of a 501 c, c three,   basically.   And everything that you and everything that I do going forward is private.  

[01:35:10] Unknown:

Really? Wow.   Yes.  

[01:35:12] Unknown:

Well, we now what we can do is Tony had Tony does a conference call. We we do a conference call too, and we talked about that on our conference call. We can bring the lady on.  

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Right. And and   what what Will was saying earlier is that we can use this strategy   because we know ultimately   right now to be brutally honest, we're not in a position to   to we're not in a position to fight back   right now. People and when I say position testing one, two.  

[01:35:41] Unknown:

Okay. Wait a minute. Yeah. We can testing, we can hear you.  

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I think he's gotta press, like,  

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Star six.  

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To unmute itself.  

[01:35:51] Unknown:

Star hit 6. No. Because we wouldn't be able to hear him if he was star six because he'd be muted. He wouldn't hear him at all. Hey. That's my bad. I didn't realize I was I'm trying to start my Zoom chat, so my apologies. Okay. I do have a question about taxes, though, once you guys are done talking.  

[01:36:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. So what what I was just saying was that to be brutally honest, I mean, when I said the mindset,   it's just that we're all not there yet.   And the ultimate goal is to take back control of your your your government.   And before we can do that, be these are just strategies that we can use.   You know, there's more than one way to skin a cat.   So being a national is one of them. Using the UCC is another one. Putting everything in a trust until that faithful time comes is another one.   So so these are all things that we can use   because there is gonna be a time where we're gonna have to take action. And I I mean, that's all I really had to say. Well, let  

[01:36:48] Unknown:

but let let me say more on that because   that's what I like about this. Y'all the national,   perspective is because the Moors come from that same perspective too. When I was in the UCC,   I frowned upon the Moors what the Moors were doing because the Moors were telling me, oh, you gotta know your nationality. You gotta know national. Well, they they said nationality. I I understand the distinction between national and nationality now, and I appreciate the lady saying that earlier. But the the Moors were about,   the national status, your national status, which I just discarded, totally discarded then. And but I'm revisiting it now after understanding UCC perspective, and now I can understand the national perspective. That's why I like that's why I'm so,   keen on what you all are doing. I like this because it's not this material   grief aspect   that you're approaching it from. You're approaching it from, look this is a way of life for us.  

This is a way of life. And that's what I always have tried to impress upon people after I got rid of that greed factor or neutralized the greed factor.   Now I can say, wait a minute. This national thing has some   relevance to it that I need to start to,   you know, to,   internalize.   So I like that that, that you I like you all's approach.   And then as a secondary thing, the UCC can be in be incorporated,   but the national approach, I think, is the ultimate approach because we can all come together, blacks, whites, and everybody else. We come together and say, Look we're nationals   and we are trying to correct the ills of the government that we created because we were so lazy and ignorant in the first place and that's how it got out of hand. It's because we were lazy and ignorant and any other derogatory phrase we can use that's what we are that's why the government is corrupt right now is because of us,   because we're not doing what we're supposed to. Thomas Jefferson said and I'm paraphrasing what did it take for tyrannical government to exist? For good men to do nothing.  

And that's why this government's like it is right now and that's why we're fighting against it because our forefathers and foremothers   have done just that. They sat on their asses and done nothing, and that's what we're doing as well until,   of course,   us as a group here come together and said, okay. We need to make some changes.  

[01:39:03] Unknown:

I I I go ahead. The The Economic Solution what was the name of the author?  

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Peter Kershaw,   k e r s h a w.  

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It's a small Peter  

[01:39:14] Unknown:

Yeah. The pamphlet. I call it an abbreviated version of The Creature from Jekyll Island because most people didn't wanna read that extensive book. So I told them, get well, get the get the Peter Kershaw Economic Solutions.   It's a condensed version of The Creature from Jekyll Island, and I guess you probably would even say,   Eustace Mullins' book, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve. And I know what you're gonna say, Brent.   Oh, man.   That I think a guy wanted to think about taxes. I think some money. Did did someone then the guy then the gentleman have a question on tax or comment on taxes or something?  

[01:39:51] Unknown:

I thought he said he had a question.  

[01:39:53] Unknown:

I think he had a question. Gee. I do have a question then on the taxes put put the national debt on the phone.   Are y'all really   are y'all getting any blowback? Are is there is this all what it said said to be, or are you getting blowback?   Not yet.   Okay. Alright.  

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And I probably   stepped in the dog pile   probably   worse than anyone just about.   And,   you know, I'm trying to rectify it or rectify it, but,   you know,   I haven't gotten any letters or anything yet.   How long have you been doing it, Brent?   Well, I did something asked backwards, and I'll say it privately   to you. Okay. Yeah.   I I took an attitude that I shouldn't have, and I'll give you the history of it and everything.   But   but everyone else has done it pretty much correctly, and   there hasn't been any problem.   You know, they've sent a few bluff letters, and, you know, they have retorts to that.  

[01:41:06] Unknown:

And so that's what I like about yeah. Okay. That's what I like about this here, but Mike Tyson put it plain and clear. And I've and those of you who know what I'm talking about. Mike Tyson, everybody got a plan   until they get hit in the mouth.   No. I wanna talk to the one that been hit in the mouth. I want to talk to the one that been hit in the mouth. I don't wanna care nothing about nobody that sits up and talk about, oh, everything's fine with me. I haven't had no blowback or anything like that. Everything's just fine. I said, I I well, I don't need to talk to you then. I wanna know the people that have been through the fire and are still there. Because I was facing fifty years in prison back then. I'm still here doing it. I'm still here.  

[01:41:43] Unknown:

Now,   so well,   on on, like, you know, someone takes out a loan and,   the bank once they pay it off, the bank,   does a if I'm if I understand it right, a $10.90   and claims the money   $10.99   and claims the money   for that that was   part of that loan.   So so let's Okay.   Go ahead.  

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What once you if you did lady that we I told about the UCC connection. Right? How Yes, sir.   Okay. Alright. Now read the negotiable instrument section of the UCC so you can understand how debt really works because that's what you're getting into   now. But I we we can talk about it still, but I just wanna make sure you specifically go to the negotiable instrument section of the Uniform Commercial Code.   Okay.   And Howard Freeman gonna talk talk about that as well in his in the UC connection.   But you have to understand how this this debt program works.  

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But go ahead. I'm sorry. No. No. No. No. That that was it. Okay.  

[01:42:52] Unknown:

Okay. So we we just discharged the debt. We came in. That's what appealed to me. I had a massive debt from child support   to to, student loans,   cars. We haven't had a home yet, but we have people that came to us to have their homes discharged.   And we did discharge some homes and cars,   but then they monetized the debt because   once you discharge a debt, you have to protect that asset.   Okay? And putting it in the trust would have years later, like, when when, Brent was just saying he did something to ask backwards, well, we did something to ask backwards too. Yes. We were discharging the debt according to House Joint Resolution one ninety two and   all the language that they used back then and you with the UCC.  

But once we see once we had that asset discharged,   we just let it sit there. We said, well, they can't touch it because it's discharged. The debt has been satisfied.   But now that we understand   the Rothschild formula where they say, give me control of the nation's economy. I care not who writes its laws.   We weren't we weren't privy to that then. So we said, okay. What's it's free and clear, so we're not doing anything. You have to do something to protect those so called assets.   So what are the Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. No. No. Go ahead. Was after it was discharged   through the UCC process,   then   then we said, okay.  

Let's put it in a trust. We didn't know that then. So everything was what they call monetized or whatever I think is is the correct verbiage, where they just reversed it and and,   put us back into debt with them. But we allowed them, put it that way. But it's been a long time now since I've done, and I've heard so many different   strategies now that,   I like the national. I do like the what y'all doing from the national perspective, but I think that the UCC needs to be considered.  

[01:44:40] Unknown:

Mhmm. Thank you. I hear you. Not only that, but trust too as well.  

[01:44:45] Unknown:

Well, yeah, that's an aspect of it. That's what that's what that's what I was just saying, Tonya. Once you discharge the debt,   then,   put it in a trust.   But now I did the OID.   Remember I told you I did the oh, we did the OID too.   And at the original issue discount from the IRS,   we got a hundred and 65,000   back, but, of course, the CID came to our door. They the criminal investigative division of the IRS came to our door. But, you know, I'm I'm I'm courageous. I I I stand up to them. And, like, Roger say, you don't wanna go into their courts, but if you have to, then go. If you have to, you're gonna you know, they call you in. Sometimes you have to go, and that's what we did back then. We went in there in them courts. And luckily, I was one of the ones that survived   up to this day. But I went into the IRS too. I went in there and, you know,   challenged them with the OID because they were asking us how we how we did what we did through the OID. And I said, we didn't do anything. We just submitted the paperwork to you all. You all did it. So you need to investigate it yourselves. You don't need to investigate us.  

I don't know if anybody familiar with the OID on the phone.  

[01:45:52] Unknown:

No. Not really. No. Oh, okay. Okay. So most y'all come from the We listen to, hold on, Will. I don't mean to interrupt you, but No. Go go go. You can go. Those who are not familiar with the OID,   there's a person by the name of,   Gene Keaton.   Now he was an expert   at that craft that particular craft.   He was on a few shows. He was, like, top tier   person with this UCC stuff and ten ninety nine OIDs and o I,   ABCs, I think it was.   So he was really top tier in that. So if you wanna or if you're interested in knowing about that, Jean Keating,   k e a t I n g,   was a person, j e a n, Jean Keating.  

He was one of the   foremost persons to know about that subject matter.  

[01:46:45] Unknown:

Appreciate it.  

[01:46:47] Unknown:

Now I got a question.   Mhmm. For the now most of the people on the phone is going through the national process. You are considered Christians. Is that correct? Mhmm.  

[01:46:56] Unknown:

Some are something.   Uh-huh.   Some are. Some are.  

[01:47:00] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. But for the I think the majority probably come from a Christian mindset, in other words, for sure. Mhmm. Okay. So when when I was in the UCC movement and I was kinda gravitating towards the national national status, I start when I started reading the bible with my eyes open,   okay,   understanding, okay, this is a lot about contracts, and this is how we should be,   this is how we should be communicating with the fictions that we've created, being the government, the financial system, the corporate system, etcetera.   If I am   if I'm the Christian,   then I don't need to submit any paperwork to anybody   to tell them my status because I'm going off the creator's what the creator had meant for me to do in the first place.  

So   as Christians,   why would y'all,   you know, so y'all become as nationalist as nationals, Nash become a national and submit paperwork   asking   them for permission to do what we're supposed to be doing already as Christians anyway. That's the redemption process.   I hear you.   So yeah. But I I I'm I'm really curious as to why because my position is why not just why not we just use the Holy Bible   and say, okay. We're standing on the principle of the Holy Bible. I don't need to submit any paperwork to you or anything. You are fiction. I created you. Mhmm.  

[01:48:18] Unknown:

Well,   putting them on notice.  

[01:48:21] Unknown:

Putting the fiction on notice that I created?  

[01:48:24] Unknown:

Well, the thing is they assume and presume   that we're US citizens   upon birth,   and   it's incumbent on us to let them know   otherwise.   We aren't requesting anything. We  

[01:48:41] Unknown:

if I think I understand what you're saying, Brent. So I guess it would be sorta like if I create a computer, and a computer is like this AI type of thing.   Right? And the computer is self learning,   and then it says, oh,   query.   You guys are citizens.   Yes?   And   there's no reply from us. There's no   there's acquiescence.  

[01:49:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And the computer says query concern.  

[01:49:11] Unknown:

Yeah. And the computer says query. You're a citizens. Right?   And again,   acquiescence.   So now they presume,   oh, okay. They're citizens, and they start acting as such.   Now we have to come back now to to Will's point. Why would I have to go and tell them,   hey, listen.   Why I created you. Why should I have to tell you anything?   Because now   when I did the two queries or the three queries,   you acquiesced.   And I have put all of these public policies in place,   and you've been following them   for a hundred years.   So now because you're following them,   I have to put you on notice again   to say I think I understand what you're saying, Brent, but that's just my thinking about it. But he said it's some assumption.  



[01:49:59] Unknown:

Yeah. I see what you're saying. But okay. Let me let me let me let me let me throw this in there. Okay. So anybody here familiar with the Dead Sea Scrolls?  

[01:50:07] Unknown:

Mhmm. Well, no. Okay. I I've heard of them, but I don't know I don't I haven't read them.  

[01:50:13] Unknown:

Okay. And so nobody anybody else anybody else heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls or read them?  

[01:50:18] Unknown:

Because I'm not found in Qumran.  

[01:50:20] Unknown:

Well, yeah. That that that was the copper scroll that were found in Qumran, the copper scroll.   But the Dead Sea scrolls were found in the Dead Sea, you know, in that area there. But here's the thing where I'm trying to get to. Okay.   Christians should really   look at the Dead Sea scrolls because that's what the true early Christian that were persecuted by Paul   and the Sanhedrin   and the the Pharisees   and somewhat the Sadducees.   The true Christians were forced on the ground. They had the Dead Sea Scrolls.   The Pauline version that we're looking at today is the watered down Pharisee version   of the Dead Sea Scrolls. In the Dead Sea Scrolls,   you it was a whole different it's a whole different setup there, but you have to go and read them for that's why I say it wasn't anybody familiar with them because on Tony's   show, we did a study of Dead Sea Scrolls.  

And professor Eisenman out of Long Beach, California there, professor Eisenman   now I've got about 15 different authors on the Dead Sea Scrolls.   Professor Eisenman seems to have broken it down really well. He's a a Jewish scholar, of course, a professor, but he went into the Dead Sea Scrolls and dissected them. He said and he showed me. And even but Acts the twelfth chapter I mean the twenty first chapter   of Acts   shows   how Paul is the enemy, but yet and still Christians of today are upholding Paul as though he's some heroic figure when he was an   in enemy to both Jesus, the Zealot, the Zadokites, the Ethanites,   and to James, who James was the leader of the church once Jesus left. And Paul knew that and Paul tried to kill James, but that's even in a fragmented version. It's in a fragmented version of the King James version in Acts the twenty first chapter.  

But in but in reading the Dead Sea Scrolls   you'll be you'll be a little bit more   forceful with your perception of this whole religious   spiritualist   religious dynamic that we have because Paul was talking about faith alone   is what does it.   And that's what the paperwork with the NASA's movement or the national movement said the paperwork alone does it and that's not true. James   who said faith with work without works is dead.   And even even our illustrious or even our enemies, the communists say   that that, theory without practice is dead. I agree with that.   Theory is one thing but it's like Mike Tyson said, you everybody got a plan until they get hit in the mouth.  

The early Christians had a plan and they revolted after their presentments   to the Sanhedrin,   to the the, the Romans,   and they attacked.   That's what the Dead Sea Scrolls Incorporated. But most most Christians aren't familiar with the Dead Sea Scrolls and that is where your true Bible come from. Those were the Christian those were the people that were persecuted   by the Christian. Paul came up with the name Christians. They would never call Christians.   They would sell it.  

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Well, I'd say our actions   are,   you know, the notification   and affidavit   and,   you know, just notifying,   you know,   the hierarchy and what have you as to the status change.   Other actions might come into play later on, but   so far Uh-huh.   That seems to stop the problem.   But then again, you don't go up showing your ass and stuff. Well, I'm a national. I'm a do what the hell I want to.   And Right. You know, because they're perceiving   what we're doing   as,   you know, an endangerment   to their public.   And, you know, if someone's out, you know, driving erratically and, you know, like a fool or whatever, you know, again, don't start no shit. Won't be no shit.  

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I like that comment, Paul. You said you said that a couple of times I mean, Brent, you said it a couple of times a day.   But yeah. You know what? But the thing is that we are starting we are starting shit. When you when you when you say you're saying you're   you're a national. You're no longer their slave.   That's starting something.  

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Oh,   well,   the thing is just don't go showing your ass and stuff afterwards.  

[01:54:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. But we're gonna eventually I mean, what what are we doing this for? Like, the UCC, we say, okay. We're gonna discharge debt.   Then what? Well, we should have put it in trust, then we could protect our assets, and then we could have been financing the movement to take on a more,   proactive stance.   Because right now, we're defensive   posture. We need we need to become more proactive.   I think the the the hindsight twenty twenty.   Ain't hindsight   twenty twenty? Twenty twenty. Yeah.   Yeah. But but we, you know, we have started,   and we're gonna have to we're gonna have to finish the job   eventually. And and and that's if historically,   from the zealot movement and the Dead Sea Scrolls   up until the the Egyptian Empire, up until the Roman Empire, the Greeks, you know, all empires in the past, they've   all be it deteriorated from within.  

Mhmm. And so and the same thing happening right now. It's deteriorating from within. And and luckily, the national the nationals,   we can do something to make a change.  

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Well, they're talking about crashing the economy and stuff.   Yeah. They should. What are you what are you gonna do about that? Are you taking safeguards   for that? You know, protecting your family and, you know, food,   protection   devices,   supplies,   this, that, and the other. You were a warehouseman.   You you know supply.  

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You know? And I was  

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help you help me crash the system. At Saint Don't help me crash the system. I want to Well,  

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the thing is is you need to protect you and yours   from the repercussions.  

[01:56:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   But I think listen. But let me ask you to post it from this perspective, Brent. Okay. Yeah. We should be preparing for doomsday or whatever you wanna call it,   and Julie is the expert on that, the doomsday narrative.   But we we do need to be protecting ourselves from that, but what we're we're we're slaves on a plantation right now. We're slaves on a plantation,   and we're talking about, well, we don't we shouldn't burn down the slave master's house because we gotta protect ourselves afterwards. Well, the first thing I wanna do is I wanna burn down the slave master's house. I wanna get rid of the banking system because that's what's crushing me right now. That that's, to me, worse than doomsday.   I think once the system implodes,   we'll be in a better place because we're gonna be able to we're gonna be able to dictate, okay, what monetary system are we gonna use? The web of debt goes into my of a web Ellen Brown, the web of debt. That's a great book to talk about alternative money system that we probably need to be putting in place now.  



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Hey. Well, I gotta comment to Brent what what Brent asked when you're done.  

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No. Go ahead. I mean, you go and tell me tell me now. I was talking about say,  

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remember, Brent, when we were younger   and,   your mom   or your dad asked you to do something several times,   some of us didn't get the several warnings.   Some of us, our moms and dads just asked us or told us to do it one time.   And if we didn't do it and we sat on our ass,   you reaped the repercussions   of whatever it was that you got.   And so   when you ask the question about   what are we gonna do when the economy crashes,   if we're gonna be brutally honest with each other? Because I do remember Trump saying   it's gonna be rough. When he first got in and when he was   elected and all this other stuff and they had all this fanfare,   I think he said something to the effect of it's gonna be rough, but we'll get through it. So all I'm saying is if we're brutally honest with ourselves,   we were warned   years ago. We were warned when the Biden administration was in, and we saw everything going to hell then. We were warned way back when when we started,   you know, dipping into this UCC,   national   stuff. We we were warned then, but we just failed to adhere   to the to the to the signal signs. Now the time is on us.  

Now we're panicking.   I told you to clean your room. You're not cleaning your room. You're not going anywhere.   And so now you're gonna get this ass whooping.   And I'm sorry to say it like that so bluntly,   but that's what it is. We were warned,   but we failed to look at the signs. And those of us who adhere to it,   we'll be okay. It's gonna be rough, but we'll be okay.   For those who did not, amen. I don't know.  

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Well, the nationals are preparing, though. Go ahead. Right? I mean, they're at least Hey. Hey. If we are if they're preparing  

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with the paperwork, okay. There you go.   Listen. You need you need food because the paperwork ain't gonna do it alone. You need food.  

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If the economy crashes,   you need food. You need That's a lot of transportation.  

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Yeah. You need all of that stuff. And if you haven't been preparing   for that day, then   good luck with that paperwork.   And to all of the view listeners who are on, if you heard me earlier,   last week, that was the argument that I was trying to get across.   I wasn't trying to say that it doesn't work because it is a tool to put them on warning,   but they don't care about the warnings. They just gonna do whatever they wanna do. So that my question was just okay. So when that time comes,   do we got ammunition? Do we got guns?   Do we got food supplied? Do we have, you know, a a link to that? Do we have any of that stuff? Do we have a barter system in place for it? Because I guarantee you none of that UCC stuff gonna work.  



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Yep.   They   when it comes time, who's gonna honor the paperwork?   Nobody. Exactly.   If you wanna talk more about preparedness   and stuff,   I'm a willing participant.   I love talking about it. And if Me too. Me too.   And, William,   if you took note of what my MOSs   were and what,   they focused on  

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Yeah.  

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The the Marine Corps   prepped me for preparedness,   mindset.  

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Yes. We're yes. We're interested in talking more about that. Yes. We are. Yes. We are. Definitely. Because I I'm looking at  

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some ammunition. I'm looking to buy more ammunition   as we speak right now.   I have one, two, three. I I have   a few firearms, and I have a shotgun, and I'm looking to get a rifle. I'm looking to get a hunting rifle. So yes. We we don't need to know specifics.  

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What we don't know doesn't hurt you.   What you don't know doesn't hurt us.  

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Okay. I'll I'll thank you, sir.  

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But just remember, what was the second amendment? The second amendment was to what?   Keep and bear arms.  

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To do what? To get friends.  

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And to do what?  

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To provide   security.  

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That's right. Yeah. Most Somebody said it. Most people steer clear of that. It's Somebody said it. Tyrannical government. Yeah. There you go. That's what that's what it's really about.  

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That's exactly what it's for.  

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But they don't see themselves as that. That's okay. They're fictions. We don't expect them to.   Yep. We're the brainchild of this operation. We're gonna have to give they they gonna get instructions from us.  

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Yep. And you know what? I I got a question. I got a question, man. And I just thought about this when somebody said that.   What when when Merka what's her name, Merka? When she was on the line earlier,   and she said there's a thing about this We The People, and that's not how it's supposed to be.   You know, I'm wondering if they are teaching these young students in the classrooms nowadays   that We The People   are representatives   of us and not us.   So that constitution or that second amendment right doesn't apply to us. I wonder if that's what   I wonder if that's what they're trying to that one.  



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They tried to say that it was the that it was the National Guard, but the National Guard was formed in the eighteen nineties.  

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That's good.  

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But They dropped that argument in the Supreme Court one time.  

[02:03:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, Brent,   is she still on the phone, but you said that this gentleman's gonna is, he talks about that on his show tonight.   Do you have a book or a reference or something that you could send to me? I'd like to read up on that if I could, what he was saying because I didn't get the whole gist of it. I'm gonna get on the show, but it's a book or something out. Well, I can forward you,  

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a couple of his emails,   and you can kinda get a flavor for him.  

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And Okay. I'd like to have him go to the show tonight.  

[02:03:46] Unknown:

Hey, Brian.   Yeah. You just put your email in, the, Okay. I'll text it to you. On my text. Yeah. Yeah. And  

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Substack?   Mike Substack?  

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Yeah. Oh   oh, wait a minute. What was that now? I'm sorry. Say it again.  

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Mike has a Substack. Brent, you wanna,  

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relay relay that to him? Yeah. I'm gonna send that to him.  

[02:04:10] Unknown:

Okay.   Yep. Okay, Brent. I just sent you my email too. Okay.   And and send me send me the thing. I'd like to see but go ahead. Go I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well,  

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Mike kinda brings up   the writings   between the federalist   and the anti federalist.   Yes,   ma'am. Thinking   yeah. What their thinking was, and that's where it comes from that's where his perspective comes from from their writings. I hear you.  

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I can listen. I'm glad you said that because I resonate with with the anti federalist, not the federalists. Okay? I look at the federalists as the true communist.  

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Most of us do.   Oh, good. Good. Yeah. That's  

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Patrick Henry. That's Thomas Paine. And to some extent, I'd say Thomas Jefferson, but but I think that but but the biggest influence on Thomas Jefferson was Thomas Paine anyway.   But but the two answer Martin. About  

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Yeah. About Roosevelt Martin, do you know about him?  

[02:05:09] Unknown:

No. I don't know much about him. He was an anti federalist?   Yep. Okay. Because I'm reading Ketchum's book on the anti federalist the anti federalist papers.  

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Well, here's some have   Here's some quick insight.   He was the longest serving   state attorney general   ever in history.   And you go to Maryland   to mask elected officials, especially lawyers and, you know, their their justice department.   They have no clue of who he was.  

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Yeah. I would like to know more about it myself. I'm sure he's in the anti federalist papers if I catch him. Mhmm. But Gentleman.   I'll go ahead. Sorry.  

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If you like understanding,   knowledge,   you'll like Mike Gaddy. I yield.   Mhmm.  

[02:05:56] Unknown:

Well, I I gotta get on the show then. I definitely got I'll be on the show tonight, though. I wouldn't I'd I'd I'd definitely wanna have some discourse within them because I'm I'm of the anti federalist position anyway.  

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When when you find out what his background is,   be ready to pick your jaw up off the floor.  

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Well, it it can't be anymore anymore than me and Tony. I mean, we come from the we come from the the black racist. I mean, the black masses are, are nothing but racist, really.   We ain't white people, so people you know, we came we came a long way ourselves.  

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But you know what? Okay.   Isn't it more that you love your own?  

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I agree with that because See, see, I agree.  

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Not. No.  

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No. No. It is. Well, no. No. Let me let me clarify that because I come from the revolution. And that's what that's what the revolutionary   movement is about, is loving yourself,   loving your people first.  

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And who can be against that?  

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Right. I agree. Now, Tony, you disagree with that. Go ahead. I wanna hear your position on that so I can question. I I that's just the we're supposed to love our own and take care of our own.   First. Yes. And we have to love the nature.  

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Yeah.   Okay.  

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I I don't know, guys. I don't know about that one. I mean, I   listen. Whoever loves me, I'm loving them back.   I don't care if you black,   yellow.  

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Nah. I just wanna write it right. I don't care what you are. I get it.  

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I get it. I get it. All I'm all I'm just saying is that when I look   at our youth today,   I and you say aren't you supposed to, you know, love your own, it's it it makes it difficult.   Well,   it it makes it very difficult.  

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What's being put into them, it's   it's,   intentional.   It's   it's a crime.   It's criminal what's being put in. You know what I'm saying? If if they had the opportunity,   to to to,   have good things put into them and then have a choice,   that's different.  

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Well, I What's your name? To your and to your point, when you said what's being put into them, they're mamas and daddies, because they mamas and daddies ain't putting it into them. So I'm let's start there. Well well, we have to  

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for a long   time, it's been intentional. Our understanding has been darkened. You know? With what what what we've been given as facts is not quite accurate.   So so, and, also, our   what our entertainment   has been bent towards   not being productive   and not,   being strong as a person. So   so,   unfortunately,   you know,   a lot of our own   is suffering from that.  

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Okay. But what's your name? What's your name, Annette?  

[02:08:49] Unknown:

My name's Annette.  

[02:08:50] Unknown:

Annette Annette, let me just say I mean, and I'm I'm   not trying to hurt anybody's feelings, but, again, I am at the same time. Mhmm. We've gotta stop playing the victim. Okay? We are the one we are the one the people on this phone, we are the ones that are responsible for the past generation, the way they are. If we wanna call them,   the delusional,   whatever,   it's our fault. We on this phone. It's us on this phone. It's our fault. We haven't done what we're supposed to do in the first place. That's why the youth are like they are. You attacking my you attacking my victimhood.   This is yeah. Exactly. Hey. Hey. I That's  

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I I   absolutely agree about not being a victim. Absolutely.   100%   agree.  

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Yeah. But we are the one that fought here. We are we this is our fault, and we are going to have to if if things are gonna change, we have to change.   Correct. We have to change. It's all our fault. That's the way I look at it. All my fault. It's my fault. Look in the mirror.  

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And so so I've been stepping on these papers with Fred. No. No. No. I I don't see it as stepping on tape. But to to the point of y'all saying we're we come from hate,   well, you know,   you're you're, you're probably hating that your people are in the fixer end is probably a better way. Is that a better way of saying it?  

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Well   well, we hate that yeah. People our people got in the fix that we're in because we put ourselves in the fix that we're in. That's true. Yeah. We we all yeah. We didn't we didn't read we didn't read history. We didn't say no. We should've said  

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no. Yeah.  

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Right. And and not only that, let's go a bit further back. Black people love to cry about well, blacks and Jews fight play victim more than anybody, but I see I see it in everybody. But Black Jews love to play victim play a little phony holocaust   and Blacks love to play victim of this little phony enslavement that we that we were uh-uh   that was imposed upon us for three hundred years. But yet still   historically, you go back to the ancient African civilizations.   We enslaved the white race for over two thousand years. The black race did. Okay? So I tell black people, shut the hell up about somebody enslaving   somebody.  

Our slavery upon the white race was unregulated.   You're forgetting about the other seven hundred years when we invaded Spain. That that comes much later. That comes much later. I that comes much later. I I'm gonna get to that but I wanna make sure that people understand that the ancient Africans enslaved the Europeans, the whites,   for over two thousand years. The Black race yet still we we introduced   racism   because we used to systematically kill white people because we thought they were diseased.   We used to we used to we enslaved them. Unregulated slavery. The slavery that we had here in America was the greatest slavery that any man could have. This was regulated.   That's why that's why the white southerners wanted to get rid of it. They had to take care of the damn slaves, they had to feed them, provide health care and all that. Hell I don't want to do that for a damn slave, they had a slave. But that's what that's what happened in here. But the Moors, when they imposed slavery upon this on Spain   from the July to 1400,   that was just that was even more brutal than what was imposed upon the black slaves that were here in America that our people sold us into in the first place. Have you heard of something called the Hazard   Circular? Yes. I've heard of this. I've got information on the Hazard Circular.  



[02:12:11] Unknown:

Yeah. My my daddy talks about it also.  

[02:12:16] Unknown:

Okay. That's a great piece. That's a great piece. Oh, yeah. I talked about that on your show. Tony, I talked about that on your show.  

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Okay.   Yeah. Mike Gaddy talks about it. If you come on, before Mike's show comes on, like, half an hour before,   you know, he's doing show prep, you know, making sure stuff works and that he can be heard and everything because he has technical problems.   But thing is, he'll get into that with you. In fact, it might end up becoming the topic.  

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Well, let let's I mean, I'd love to talk about that tonight. Tony, I'm a send you some information on it. But, Tony, I talked about that on your show,   back in, last year, I think, sometime, Tony. You may not remember it all, but the the hazardous circular, that that's a great piece.   That's a great piece. And I don't wanna say no more until we get on the show if possible. I need to refresh it. I wanna be able to give it all the information I have on that. But that's a that I'm glad you bumped it up, Brent. That's a good piece.  

[02:13:19] Unknown:

Yeah. And on Thursdays,   DW   is on on Mike's,   you know, presentation   on, you know, your DIY health,   and he's kind of an expert on it too.  

[02:13:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay. Well, that that that's why me and Tony got on this show because we Tony Tony Tony had a show here. He brought on as a speaker, but him and my son rushed.   And we were trying to organize black people   to understand look here. White people are not your enemy. Your enemy is yourself. Okay. First of all, let's get that clear on this show.   And then we started delving into the monetary system,   nationalism,   And then we then we came to the conclusion, well, we need to just unite with the nationalists out there, the nationals out there, because they're the ones that understand the Jewish question and understand that something needs to be done other than what we're currently doing. And so that's what that's why we gravitated toward toward this show, but I would have never stayed on this show if they if they couldn't correctly to me, couldn't correctly identify the Jewish question as a as one of our concerns.  

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The audience was trying to question.  

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I guess you didn't know. You didn't some point.   No. Hell no. And and so but even more detrimental than the Jewish question is understanding   what we've contributed to it. The Jewish question only   has grown exponentially because of our lack of lazy   attitude and and our, you know, our complacency.   We've allowed it to grow   in this   nature by not doing by just doing nothing.   Yep. That's why the Jewish question is such a detrimental aspect right now because   what we are the people, people, whatever. Y'all correct me tonight on that.   We have sat around,   grown fat and lazy and ignorant.  

Hosea four six in the bible says my people are destroyed by lack of knowledge. Now I know there's more of that verse than that, but that that that that's what resonates with me is my people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.   And we are going to have to stop being so   pitifully ignorant   and then start taking responsibility for our actions and understand that all this nonsense that's happening is a result of our complacency.  

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You're here? Yep.  

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Oh, shoot. But, yeah, we didn't want I think we'd get off the show. We just we we we, we had some other things to do, but we were gonna get back on the show. We weren't,   just totally offended,   because of our,   misunderstanding with, Roger. Because we know Roger has a lot of information. It's just that we wanna let people know we know the information works. Not only do we believe the information works, we know it works. Because if it works from a UCC perspective,   the national perspective is much simpler than the UCC because the UCC, we try to become a bank and discharge debt. Y'all not doing that in the national movement. Right?  

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Mm-mm.  

[02:16:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Some people are trying to play with that, says the whatever   trust and,   you know, there's people going off on tangents and what have you.   Being free  

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is enough for me. Yeah. Yeah. I like that being free is enough for me. Yeah. I want I want I wanna be a little bit more than free, though. I wanna I want I want as long as the system exists, I'm not free. That's the way I look at it.  

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Right.  

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So I wanna   I wanna do something about this this corruptness. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Is Gene Keaton still with us in the living? Tony.   Tony? Tony knows more about Gene than me. Oh, okay. He probably got phone muted.  

[02:16:50] Unknown:

No. I just unmuted. I just unmuted.   No. I think I think Gene Keaton passed.  

[02:16:56] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Thank you. But now, Gene, refresh my memory. Now what Gene would you say he was keen on the OID and what and the UCC process, Tony? Because UCC and the OID are different.  

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Yes. But he was teaching in that that field.   Okay. Those fields.   And remember remember he,   Yusebelle had a morning show, and then,   it's a lady. I forget her name.   She was, he was on her show too on talk shoe on talk shoe radio.   She interviewed him, and then, you said, well, we were all listening in on that that particular show that one time when he came on as a special guest to you.   So yeah. And he was talking about the OIDs   and why not having success with the OIDs  

[02:17:42] Unknown:

when it comes to the tax thing, and he was talking a little bit about UCC stuff too. Okay. Yeah. The Gene Keaton's yeah. I'm more familiar with Ryce McLeod and Victoria Joy. I dealt with all of them back in the, nineties.   Brent, you familiar with them or any anybody? Victoria Joy or Ryce McLeod?   No. Nope.   Oh, okay. Well, they were they were more on the on the UTC side like Jean Keaton, I believe.  

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Bryce McLeod too, the other lady?  

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Victoria Joy.   I used to go to their conferences and workshops and everything back in the late nineties and early two thousand.   Sherry now Sherry remember I told you, I know Sherry Jackson, but Sherry Sherry was never in the UCC movement. Sherry was just a tax lady. That's all she was.  

[02:18:25] Unknown:

Sherry Pill Jackson? Yeah. But they came after. They treated her like she was.   They put her in the middle of that prison.  

[02:18:32] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. So,  

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She was a turncoat to them.   They made an example of her.  

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They sure did. I think the lady was saying something.  

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Oh,   so,   maybe maybe the UCC is not where I need to   look if they if they go after. But I I think I do wanna,   look look think about a business because that's how,   to kinda create   to build something for myself.   Anyways, I can't talk about that.  

[02:19:04] Unknown:

Well, at least read the UCC connection by Howard Freeman. I would love to hear your feedback from that. Okay. Okay. Do Okay. Do you like to give back to the community? I'm sorry. What was your name? Annette.  

[02:19:14] Unknown:

Oh, okay, Annette. You like to give back to the community?  

[02:19:18] Unknown:

Well, I I'm not, like,   volunteering a whole bunch, but I have a little bit here and there.  

[02:19:24] Unknown:

Okay. Well, start your own church. It ain't gotta be a church per se. It just, you you know,   thing   Tony. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Oh, let me take it back. Ministry.   Start your own ministry.  

[02:19:36] Unknown:

And do it at 05:08 though. Right, Tony?  

[02:19:39] Unknown:

Yeah. You could do it up under the 5081,   and you could put it as the trust.   And then you can have, you you know, you can do things that way. Mhmm.   The only difference the only well, that's not the only difference, but the the if you were looking to get money, say, like, from charity organizations that would donate to you,   that give you operating money because you wouldn't, you know, then then you would need to be a 501C13.   But if you would just look into, say,   have your own ministry because you wanna   be able to operate freely and be tax free, say, like, if you designate   your house as your place of worship, you know, because it says that you gotta have, you know, a room and all this such. You designate your house as   a place of worship,   then guess what?  

You can qualify   as,   what was it, property taxes? Your property taxes you don't have to pay property taxes.   Yeah. So and then if you and if you put if you turn over the electric bill out of your name and just put it in the business name, you see how you're operating now? You're just taking everything out your name. You're putting it over into the ministry, and then that ministry is in the trust.   Mhmm.   So   yeah. But  

[02:20:53] Unknown:

those those matters.   Let let me ask this into,   to Brent. What's the lady? What's your name again, ma'am? Annette.   Annette. To Brent, Annette, and whoever else. Because these are nationals, Tony.   What are y'all doing as far as   the question that you're asking me about financial security, I mean, that's that that is involved in the in the national movement. Right? I mean, what what are y'all   what are y'all doing to address the, the financial situation in the world? Or or  

[02:21:23] Unknown:

I or I meet that Well, so Oh, good. The place the place I work requires   I work well, anyways, I don't wanna be too specific, but it requires   fine. Being part of their,   what's that called?   Retirement.   You know?   So so I'm into that because I work at a place.   But, you know,   I was thinking, you know, okay. Retire or or old foe you know, when I become become where I no longer can work, because I'd like to work until I can't.   You know, I I need to start thinking about that.   So I was thinking, you know, what do I invest in? Because everything well, I can't think of much of anything that   is not owned by somebody else   if things go down. In other words, it's not gonna be me that get reimbursed. It's the brokers that get reimbursed.  

You see what I'm saying? Like like,   the brokers   of, let's say if you own stock,   the person who who buys the stock thinks they own. If they don't, the broker   is the one that gets the,   what's that called, insurance money.   Yeah. They they get they're the ones that are covered with the insurance if things go belly up. Not and so I'm not what can I   you know,   I'm think I'm thinking I'm wanting to but I I I'm I'm just starting? I have no clue which direction I'm gonna go. But I think I think a business of some sort is probably what I should invest in   in order to have something viable long term,   you know, like money coming in. You know?  



[02:23:04] Unknown:

But what okay. But not but but my question was so as a nationalist, though, what   what is your outlook on that? I mean, what how do how are y'all addressing it?  

[02:23:14] Unknown:

Well,   I'm I'm not really asking the the group. I haven't really brought it up to the well, I haven't really brought it up to the group,   So I'm just kinda thinking out loud. You know? Me as an individual. But I think I think national should. I think we all should be now that I'm starting to look at things, I think we all should have little businesses and   you know?   Because we would be we would be creating,   we'd be creating having something in a creative mode   instead of  

[02:23:46] Unknown:

I don't I don't know. I know what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying it real well. Yeah. Real. Okay. Well yeah. Okay. So because I'm trying I'm trying to make the distinction here between the national and the UCC. Because UCC movement, that our thing was we we're preparing for retirement. We and we we're gonna   we're gonna deal with this system,   I guess you would say,   dealing with the gold standard. And we're saying, listen. Do you go back on the gold standard? We're just gonna discharge debt. So we're gonna accumulate all these all our possessions,   and we're gonna discharge them according to House Draft Resolution one ninety two. Mhmm.  

That's what that's what our plan was in the in the UCC movement. But now Okay. But they come after you. They do come after you. And so that's why I'm so used to the resistance   that you all don't seem to confront as much as the UCC movement because UCC movement, we're going right after our money system. We're saying we're not paying you in Federal Reserve notes because that's a violation of the constitution and it's also committing treason against this country.   So we're gonna discharge debt until we go back onto the gold standard because we have no real money. We don't have no real legal money to pay you with. Mhmm.   So, therefore, we're gonna discharge all debts. And we're gonna send it to the Department of Commerce, and you're gonna discharge it through my Social Security number or whatever verbiage that they're using because it's kind of different strategies that they use. Just like when you go to the when you go to the store, you're gonna use credit card, Visa, Mastercard. You're gonna do checking account. You're gonna do cash. Well, same thing, UCC movement. We got different ways of discharging debt, but we are but we all are discharging debt. That's our our primary objective.  

Mhmm.  

[02:25:20] Unknown:

Is it And then you to deal with debt. I do have a question. You kinda brought up that we didn't put it after we discharged the debt, we didn't put it or we didn't put it in a in a trust.   So that's kind of implying that there was something still hooked   tied into the property   that was discharged.  

[02:25:39] Unknown:

Well, one thing   yeah. Remember,   we we we understood   that, okay, Rothschild said, give me control of a nation's economy, and I care not who writes his laws. Monetary laws or whatever laws, they don't they don't care. The bankers will resort to brute force if they have to. So we understood. We said, okay. Yes. We've discharged the debt. That's why Tony was me and Tony were both going in with with Roger last week because we said, yes. Okay. You got the paperwork. You submit the paperwork.   But these people   eventually are gonna say, forget the paperwork. We're coming after you with brute force. I don't give a goddamn if you're a US national or whatever. We're after you. We know they're gonna they they will do that. They don't care if you're a national or not. So we understood it from the UC perspective. We said, okay. Once we discharge the debt, once the debt is discharged,   oh, is it free and is it just free and clear now? It is ideologically or or, theoretically, it's free,   But the practical aspect is, okay, but we know who these people are, and they don't they don't care nothing about contracts and treaties.  

So therefore, let's protect these assets. Trust seem to be, well, with a viable solution to protect that asset. Once you discharge it, you know, charge it off, charge the debt off, discharge it, then you protected it by putting it in the trust. Don't trust them. Yeah. Don't set up and trust them and say, okay. Well, it because when y'all tell us that, we kinda laugh at y'all. We say, oh, I submitted the paperwork. They're not gonna do nothing to me. Oh, you oh, you think not, You think not, Okay.   Well, let's just wait and see then because I know they came back to us. Yeah. Yeah. I gotcha. I gotcha. Okay. Thank you. I I appreciate it. That was clear. I understand.  

Okay. So so so so so so my my question, though, again, like like I said, so y'all really not doing anything with the monetary system? You already, like, have businesses in place and things, and y'all just becoming a national. That's that's what you're saying? Yes.   Oh, okay. Yeah. Because in our in the in the UCD movement, no. We're preparing for the future. We're preparing for doomsday. We're saying we're gonna we're gonna get these assets. We're gonna discharge them, and we're gonna take possession of them.  

[02:27:47] Unknown:

So how many,   how   how how often is y'all's members going to jail?  

[02:27:54] Unknown:

Oh, I'm not in the UCC. I kinda gave up on the UCC movement because I was I'm looking for some other things right now. But a lot of them go to jail. A lot of them do. I was facing fifty years.   Okay. But I went in I went in and I've defended myself, and I just see. Okay. Here, let me just let me just say it this way. Okay. When you submit a bill of exchange, and that's what we did. I did I did bill bill of exchanges, and I used Victoria Joy's ACV   program, acceptance for value.   In other words, we all understood that on the house during resolution one ninety two, the the system would the country went bankrupt, so there's no way for us to pay our debts,   anything but gold and silver. So when we submitted our paperwork,   we submitted it to the the secretary the treasury department, and we said discharge our instrument   utilizing my exemption to my Social Security number with the Department of Commerce.  

Okay. We gave them those explicit instructions.   Now when I sent my bills of exchanges out,   the the recipient   just disregarded the verbiage I put on the on the bill of exchange by saying, you know, taking it to the Department of Commerce and discharging and utilizing Mike Dibs to my Social Security number, all that,   u c UCC verbiage.   They took they took our bill of exchange and went to the bank.   Now it became a criminal offense when they did that, but it wasn't a criminal criminal offense criminal offense instigated on my behalf because I had explicit instructions on the bill of exchange on how to how how they can satisfy this debt, Yeah. By going through the Department of Commerce, but they   they just disregarded that process and took it straight to the bank and said, hey. You uttering a forged instrument. And so when I went into court, I said, no. I'm not uttering a for a forged instrument.  

I had explicit instructions.   If they had followed those explicit instructions like they have in the past   on other instruments that we've even other people have done, you will see that it works.  

[02:29:46] Unknown:

Mhmm.   You know, there there is a few people that own businesses   that on the on, national this group here, and they do private memberships, and they've had good success with private memberships.  

[02:30:00] Unknown:

Say more. Or or do you need do do you do a call on that or something, or is there anybody we could talk to about that?  

[02:30:06] Unknown:

I forgot her name.   Hold on. Hey, Brent. Do you remember her name? I forgot her name.  

[02:30:12] Unknown:

Who's this?  

[02:30:14] Unknown:

The doll the lady,   about,   six   well, maybe it's been nine months ago, that her husband is an anesthesiologist.   And,  

[02:30:26] Unknown:

he   Thora.  

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Thora. Thora.   Yeah.   He he left the medical,   hospital system and now has   his own practice.   And   they they do, they're they're nationals,   and they have private memberships. And they have, like, meetings that they get together. I don't know if the meetings are in person   or if and I think they're are that a Pennsylvania?   Is that right? Something like that?  

[02:30:56] Unknown:

I think Virginia.  

[02:30:58] Unknown:

Virginia. Okay.   And,   they have they have groups that meet and  

[02:31:03] Unknown:

talk about private memberships, and and they've had good success with it. Well well, I would love to do that because, yeah, I don't wanna be poor and broke. I don't want I'm not coming to this movement to be poor and broke. And we've wanted to gave them all their all their luxury anyway.   Correct. If you understand the birth certificate, we, you know, we cap we call it capturing the straw man. Okay? Because they're using our name to gather all these you know, I don't know all the verbiage now. It's been so long. But nevertheless, we capture the straw man. We say, yep. I wanna play the game too. And so from now on, when you call on me, this person that that you that you this corporate person,   I'm the flesh and the blood. I'm capturing the corporate person. I'm taking I'm I'm taking a jurisdiction over it. So anytime you wanna deal with my corporate entity, you must go through the flesh and the blood,   which is me.  

But we had to make that distinction. That's why we said that's why we use the verbiage of becoming a secured party.   Okay. I'm becoming a secured party so that I'm a stop the government because the government's using my name at the corporation, and they're making all these untold   billions of dollars or whatever the case may be. So, yeah, I I would like to know what the nationals are doing. That's why I came up with I wanna know what the nationals are doing as far as the financial aspect.  

[02:32:15] Unknown:

Yeah. That that that that seems very I'm sorry, Brent. Very vi viable.  

[02:32:20] Unknown:

I get it, Brent. Hey, William. What is it?   Did you check your text? I sent a picture of a book that I have,   And,   that guy that guy survived the Argentine,   collapse back in twenty o one.  

[02:32:36] Unknown:

Oh, okay. I know. I'm looking at it. Can I read it out loud, or do you want me to just keep it to myself here? Yeah. Yeah. You I I've told people on here before. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let me okay. I'd like to get that based on the per okay. So it's the the modern survival manual, surviving the economic   collapse.   Based firsthand experience of the two thousand one economic collapse in Argentina.  

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Yep.  

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You read you what do you think about it?  

[02:33:01] Unknown:

I haven't gotten to read it yet, but I'd heard a lot about it and heard the guy interviewed and stuff.   And, you know, I knew that that collapse was really bad,   and,   you know, that's probably   a very worst case scenario.   You know? And so that would probably be the template we'd use.  

[02:33:26] Unknown:

Okay. Alright. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna take a look at that.   I'll I'll now that I'll order that today, I'm gonna take a look at that. And,   see, now the Web of Debt is another good one,   Brent, because they talk about alternative currencies and stuff.   Mhmm. That's what Ellen Brown wrote the Web of Debt, and it's revisiting the Wizz of Oz the movie The Wizz of Oz. It was really about monetary reform.   Yeah.   And so but but she she did she that's what the book is about, The Wizard of Oz and talking about true the true first march on Washington for monetary reform, and she goes into,   how we got to where we're at, which he says that we're all familiar with how, you know, the creation of the Federal Reserve banking system and,   the collapse in 1933.  

And then she talks about the alternative currencies that we can use, that we as patriots can use today   Mhmm. To escape,   this   system. So I'm I'm gonna definitely take a look at that too. I'm gonna send you I'm gonna send you web Ellen Brown booked in too. Let me send that to you. Okay.  

[02:34:25] Unknown:

I wish you guys had come on   days earlier or something or even on the weekend because because we're on here on the weekends and stuff too.   And on.   Yeah. But,   thing is I have a pressing engagement   right now after I'm helping somebody with something. If you heard what was talked about yesterday yesterday with John Casera,   I I he's in town, and I need to go and help him out with some things.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. Oh, never mind. We're gonna do a building project. That's as much as I'll say.  

[02:35:03] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.   Well,   yeah, check your text. I'm getting ready to send you the book,   that I want you to this one here is a good one too for you to check out. It's it's called The Web of Debt, the Shocking Truth About Our Money System and How We Can Break Free   by Ellen Hodgson   Ellen Brown, in other words.   Yeah.   Yeah. So okay. Alright. I'll send it to you now.   Alright. I'll see you tonight. You go you'll be on there tonight. Right?  

[02:35:31] Unknown:

Of course.  

[02:35:32] Unknown:

I don't miss Alright. Let him oh, yeah. Let him know you got some you you invited some guests.  

[02:35:37] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Oh, he'll he'll be he'll be he'll be overjoyed.  

[02:35:43] Unknown:

You know? Because we  

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we're there's only about 17 of us that show up on there, and the more the merrier, and you guys have knowledge.  

[02:35:53] Unknown:

Well, I appreciate appreciate that. Okay. But, okay, young lady, some lady was gonna say something. Annette, was that you, Annette?  

[02:35:59] Unknown:

Yes. Brent, remind me again. I I you gave me the number, and it didn't work. But how's the other way to get on   to this program?  

[02:36:08] Unknown:

I you don't have the phone number?  

[02:36:11] Unknown:

The phone number, it's long it's international for me, and my my phone is   yeah.  

[02:36:18] Unknown:

I thought it was like a Maryland number or something like that.  

[02:36:22] Unknown:

Go ahead and give it to me again. Maybe I got it wrong.   I have to go and dig it out. Oh, don't worry, man. Another another another day. Go ahead and go.  

[02:36:32] Unknown:

No. No. No. I   I I can do it.   Just let me dig it out. You guys can talk about something.  

[02:36:39] Unknown:

Okay. Hey, Brent. Also, send me the back. I send you I always like to send front and back of a book so you can kinda read what what it's about. Send me the back of the cover that book. Uh-huh. I will. And I just sent you I just sent you the web of debt. Okay. As a matter as a matter of fact, is this Annette Annette, you still here? I am.   You should take a look at these two books that me and,   me and Brent are exchange.  

[02:37:03] Unknown:

The web of debt, and the other one I have listed down was economic,   solutions.  

[02:37:09] Unknown:

Economic yeah. That'd be I'm Peter Kurzoff. But then Surviving the Economic Collapse Okay. And that's by Fernando okay. Surviving the Economic Collapse   by Fernando   Aguirre,   but he got a he got a nickname in there. Fairfall.  

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Fairfall.  

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Fairfall. Okay. And so those two, to the Web of Debt by Ellen Brown is another great one. I just sent the front and back of that to, Brent, but that's a that's a book that Tony on Tony's show, we discussed that in its entirety.  

[02:37:42] Unknown:

Excuse me, sir. Explore. The last name of that author? Which one?   The Gireway. Surviving   Economic Collapse.  

[02:37:51] Unknown:

Oh, Aguirre.   Aguirre?   Oh, Aguirre. Oh, I'm I'm way off.   Go ahead.  

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Yeah. It's a g g   u I r   r,  

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e, I believe. Okay. Thank you. I can hear it.   Okay. I appreciate it.  

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H u u I r r e.  

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Okay. Thank you.   You know,   while Brent if,   Brent just chime in at any point about the the phone number.   But,   you know, if if people that were in a community, because I think it only would work in a community,   that was on to have like mind. You know?   They they could have an alternative system. Now they wouldn't wanna talk too much about this because that would attract attention.   But   they they could have,   I would recommend both. They if they could set up their own,   code   and have a way of,   having a ledger,   and   each person that does work   creates   a note with a number serial number tied to that person's work.  

And then they they, amongst themselves, exchange those bills.   Eventually eventually,   then they would have some type of economic,   viability   in in the future, but they would each have to have some portion of the economic,   Like,   one does, like, lumber, you know, mill milling. The other one does,   you know, welding. Another one does Yeah. You know, carpentry.   But, you know, if if someone but they would have to have it separate,   like, write a code that   if it's possible, that   entities   have a hard time dealing with,  

[02:39:48] Unknown:

then that would be more of a oh, go ahead. I yield. Yeah. No. No. But but see, that that's where the Dead Sea Scrolls with the zealot movement.   They what it's called communal living. It's not communism. It's called communal living.   And in the book that we had mentioned earlier,   red, Marx what do you call it? Red red Marxists or red Republicans.   It shows how the early   prior to the American Revolution and the Civil War,   it showed that the communal living aspects   of of   Christian people and just, you know, just non Christians who were living in co ops and doing things that's similar to what you're just what you're espousing right now.  

[02:40:31] Unknown:

Well, I I was thinking, you know,   getting outside of the current system is what I was thinking.  

[02:40:38] Unknown:

Yeah. And that's what they that's what they were doing. Is it also  

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called communitarianism?  

[02:40:45] Unknown:

Oh,   you'd have to I I haven't I'm just on the sixth chapter.   So   what was there's some names of those groups. I mean, you know, it don't necessarily have to be exactly like that, but, you know, yeah, we need to we need to work in some type of,   you know, grouping or whatever where we can kinda   exchange our talents and our skills and   be able to make a living.   I mean, I like the UCC where we say, let's let's go to their system, and let's just let's just discharge everything from their system. I like that approach.  

[02:41:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know that I wanna spend   time of my life with courts. Yeah.  

[02:41:24] Unknown:

Yeah. And that's the thing. That's the   that's the thing that I got tired of myself.   Yeah. So, yeah, alternative I mean, WebAdette and the one or two that we just recommend, I think that those probably should be   looked at in this to some degree because I think that they will offer some solutions.   And you she offers a lot of different programs in her book, The Web of Debt, and that's current day. She got public banking and all kinds of stuff in there.  

[02:41:51] Unknown:

And she by tying it by tying it to someone's   work,   there's actual value being done.  

[02:41:59] Unknown:

I I don't know. I don't know if that  

[02:42:01] Unknown:

yeah. I don't know if that's viable, but I think   you're you're creating the bills of exchange   tied to   someone doing work.   Yeah.  

[02:42:12] Unknown:

I see. I see. Well, I mean, yeah, I I I'd love to hear back from you,   on what your perception is of some of that material that that we I shared with you as well. Mhmm.   Because   yeah. That that's one of the primary things. My my biggest problem too is,   let's figure out how we can let's let's be you know, we gotta have our livelihood. We gotta be able to survive.   Yeah. So you know? And and and you're right. You see, with the UCC, you're gonna end up at court most of the time because you're you're playing in their in their courts. You're playing in their system. This is their system.   Yeah. I don't want that. Yeah. But I'll be hit now when you say that you don't want that, that's what we're doing right now. We're participating in their system right now. We're being crushed.  



[02:42:56] Unknown:

I I would like to get out of it, but, boy, it sure is sticky. You know, you pull out of one area and up, you got,   you know, several other, you know,   that that's, you know, like like the the,   what's that called? I'm required well, employment. And then I'm required to have a, what's that called?   Retirement fund. And so that has that has,   you know, stuff tied to it. So  

[02:43:26] Unknown:

There's a guy on I I follow him because I like   I don't necessarily and I don't I don't subscribe to Hebrew Israelite,   but he's a Hebrew Israelite. He's the pastor of his community.   Do you know his pastor?  

[02:43:40] Unknown:

Hebrew Israelites   us us us stay away from,  

[02:43:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Well you're familiar with him? Okay.  

[02:43:47] Unknown:

Well, he what what to speak to what you're talking about, though, he he's a Hebrew Israelite. His name is pastor Dow.   He's on YouTube. He has a channel on YouTube, and he has a pretty good following. And when you guys are speaking about the communal living   and, you know, things of that nature, he's actually doing it. They have lands. They actually have   different spots.   I think they got a spot in Mississippi,   maybe Alabama, something in Tennessee or something like that. But they're actually doing it. He has acres of land,   and they they have   their members,   and they live on the land.  

And   what you're describing, they do something similar to that. And they're doing it they're they're doing it with the trust. They're doing it with trust. Oh,  

[02:44:35] Unknown:

I'm completely against communal. I I would wanna be a part of communal living because oh my goodness. I would say each person separately in their own place. I yield. Oh, that's what I'm a  

[02:44:46] Unknown:

it isn't a kaboot, is it?  

[02:44:48] Unknown:

It isn't a what?  

[02:44:50] Unknown:

It isn't a kibbutz, is it?  

[02:44:53] Unknown:

Oh, no. You talking about you talking about the Jews in Israel?  

[02:44:56] Unknown:

Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. This this everybody has their own house.   Mhmm. You know, and everybody works on the land and whatnot.   I'm sure you have other people that go out. You you know what I'm saying? But they   they have   a thriving community.   It's just that,   instead of you live over here in, say, California and another person lives in New York or New Jersey or something,   we we live on the land. I mean, they have over hundred acres of land, if not better,   and everybody has, you you know, they actually build the homes.   The the guys in the community build the homes for each other,   And then you and your family go live in at home according to the family size.  



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Mhmm.  

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The men go out and make the money and do all of those things that you talked about. But it's it's easier because it's on their land, on their property,   and they do it through a trust. That land is on their trust. It's in a trust.  

[02:45:56] Unknown:

K. So this is a net this is a with NASA.   Go ahead. Go ahead. So the net NASA's the more the national's the more   opposed to it from individual perspective, though, I think. I think that's what I'm the gist of understanding I'm getting.  

[02:46:11] Unknown:

I think so. I think so. I think you're right. Hey. Yeah. Did you, get the text I sent?   Oh, maybe. I would have to hang up. I'm on a flip phone, so I'd have to hang up to the tip.  

[02:46:23] Unknown:

But, well, I'm I'm hurt. Burner.  

[02:46:27] Unknown:

I'm gonna hang up, Brent, and I'll call you right back. Okay?   Alright. Here we go.  

[02:46:33] Unknown:

So, Brent,   did I did I, analyze that correctly? So it's pretty much you just you become a national, but just out there on your own after that?  

[02:46:42] Unknown:

Pretty much.   I I work for a company.   You know, and in fact, I hope it's the last job I ever have to have.   You know, I've been there ten years, but, Uh-huh. You know?   And, you know, I'm drawing socialist insecurity,   you know, as a national.  

[02:47:04] Unknown:

So see, we gotta we gotta have some some   we gotta find deal with this from a financial perspective too. That's what drew me to the UCC movement is that I I wanna be able to you know, I I I don't know if I wanna live in a commune or not either. I I I mean, I just wanna be able to survive,   you know, and outside the system. I don't wanna be connected to it at all. And I have a yeah. I have a national nationwide credit repair business, but I'm a car I wash I wash cars during the week. Mhmm. And my boss is on the phone.  

[02:47:35] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[02:47:36] Unknown:

Hey. You better be careful, boy. I crack that whip on you.  

[02:47:42] Unknown:

So two days a week, I worked hard with with my with my buddy Tony, but I got a credit card for the AT and T. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's be clear. It's not cars.  

[02:47:51] Unknown:

It's shuttle buses for the Tampa International Airport. Thank you.  

[02:47:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Okay.  

[02:47:58] Unknown:

I know someone with a gig like that with Hertz out here in, well, not in Vegas, but over in the Southern California area.   He washes,   cars.  

[02:48:09] Unknown:

In fact, he's a a boot camp buddy. I got it for you. Oh, okay. And then had to get off the phone to get you a message and get back on?  

[02:48:20] Unknown:

Yes.  

[02:48:21] Unknown:

We're gonna work with you on that, Neil. We're gonna have to help you out there.  

[02:48:29] Unknown:

There. My handy my handy dandy flip phone.  

[02:48:35] Unknown:

I didn't even know they meant those phones anymore.   Yep.   Oh my goodness.   Yep.   Oh, yeah. We were I was asking,   Brent   a few more questions on that. So you pretty much as a national, you're just out there on your own financially   after you, attained your freedom or whatever doing your paperwork?  

[02:48:55] Unknown:

You you can,   but, you know,   you know, I don't have a gig going on right now. I'm working on a couple of angles, you know, for myself.   But, you know, for right now, I gotta work with the man.   You know, I I have a CDL,   so I'm licensed to drive   and you know?   And Sounds good.   Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's a meal ticket.   You know? They have plenty of driving jobs in town. So   if this one ends,   you know, I go to another. But I prefer the setup with this, you know, because   in commercial driving,   you know, there's different brands of BS   with different companies.  

And I think I mesh well with the brand of BS I'm in.  

[02:49:50] Unknown:

Wow. Yeah. Don't get you laughing.  

[02:49:54] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:49:56] Unknown:

That's funny. Well, who got a net of that, Tony? That's me. That's me.  

[02:50:02] Unknown:

No. It is funny, though, what he said that you, you know, to be able to blend in with the BS.   Yeah.  

[02:50:09] Unknown:

You know, I I don't I don't I am well past having to get up at all hours   of the more you know, early morning and stuff.   With this company, I've had a set schedule   the whole time I've been here.   You know,   it's like I can set my clock by it just about. And with my abbreviated work period in retirement or semi retirement,   you know, I have three days a week and it leaves the rest of the week for myself,   you know, to do what I choose to do. And I did leave it open to them. Hey. If you need somebody in, just give me, you know, two and a half, three hours of lead time.   And I have clothes all laid out, and I'll come in for you. You know, it's extra money   and,   you know, but thing is I'm not obligated   to be there,   you know,   like, five days a week. You know, that that's a bit much.  



[02:51:13] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep.   Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay.  

[02:51:18] Unknown:

Yep. Because they were trying they have been trying the past couple of months.   Hey. You sure you don't wanna do, four or five days?   Nope. I'm fine with three. But if you need someone,   you know, give me a call.   I'm a phone   call away,   and the phone's always near me. I'll answer your call.   You know?   But I I just don't wanna be obligated because once they get you into that, you're stuck.   Yeah. And I and I and I see life.   Life.  

[02:51:51] Unknown:

Yep. I mean, all this people are I know a guy, Will, when I first started into this business, hauling gas, I know a guy, old guy named Johnny. He said that he was with a company just like how Brenna's,   explained him.   And he said he he he was out on the road   two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, and he told him, hey. Listen. I gotta go home. I got a wife. I I need to go home.   And they said, okay. Yeah. We'll get you the load coming back in, and they never did. They always kept him out. So one day, he just pulled his truck over on the side of the road when he got close enough, like, another stayed out. He pulled his truck on the side of his road, and he told his wife,   to come get him.  

And he pulled the whole truck and trailer over there because they wouldn't they wouldn't trying to hear what he was saying. Mhmm. And that's how he left.  

[02:52:39] Unknown:

Yep.   And, you know, don't get me wrong.   I'm home every night and stuff. I just don't wanna have that time obligated   because   I can't spend time like this with you guys or, you know, going out and, you know, seeing guys that come into town and stuff   and,   you know,   interacting with them. I I wanna be free sometime.  

[02:53:03] Unknown:

Mhmm. Same here. I'm a see, I'm a reader. I love reading. I got over 6,000 books, and I I love reading and and researching.   That's what I wanna do. And I think it I You know? Go ahead.  

[02:53:17] Unknown:

Oh, I was that way for quite a while,   and, well,   I can't do that anymore.  

[02:53:25] Unknown:

Right. I know you're   you're saying something earlier.   What's that that you have again?  

[02:53:33] Unknown:

Say again?  

[02:53:35] Unknown:

What's that did you have? You said some some type of, sophisticated   scientific,   definition of an ailment that you have?  

[02:53:43] Unknown:

No.   I don't remember that. Oh, no.   Oh, my.   My fun's a low. Yeah. That's  

[02:53:54] Unknown:

what it was.   So  

[02:53:57] Unknown:

that's why they all get No. It's a it's an it's an,   yeah, it's an Italian malady.  

[02:54:04] Unknown:

Oh, okay.   Okay.   So,   yeah, I just I mean, I I wanna be I love researchers. I've done whenever peep whenever people think I'm on the call, I'll just jump, well, give me your source so I can go get that book or that pamphlet or go listen to that show or go meet that person, and let me get some more clarity on, this particular subject matter.   That's why you hear me and Tony always say, well, give me the source. What's the source? What's the source?  

[02:54:32] Unknown:

Yeah. If you get on the,   on the app,   you'll see the chat and stuff, and there's guys typing away.   They   I I create   emails   about every two or three days   full of the links that these guys put up there.   Yeah.   It's too much to get to, but at least I have it in a recorded form on a on an email.   And if I happen to have time, I can go back to it and refer to that stuff or watch the videos   and get the PDFs and all kinds of stuff.  

[02:55:13] Unknown:

Well, guys, I'm gonna head out. Y'all have a good one.  

[02:55:16] Unknown:

Alright. You too, Annette. Catch you tonight.  

[02:55:19] Unknown:

I'm I'm gonna try. I'll try.  

[02:55:21] Unknown:

Alright.   Bye.   You know, I need to   get moving, you know, to help this guy out and stuff. And,   you know,   and it's probably gonna be several days and stuff. But, you know, I'm tuned into this until,   about 05:00. You got the,   the text, for Mark from Michigan show.  

[02:55:47] Unknown:

The Yeah. I did get that. I got that.  

[02:55:49] Unknown:

Yeah. He comes on in about half an hour. Well, about eighteen minutes now.   And,   it'll be two hours, then there's an hour break, and then he comes on for the last hour.   And today is communications   Tuesday.   And, you know, they talk about communication   forms. But then again, they'll talk about weaponry and   supplies   and all kinds of stuff. Anything   preparedness,   militia   oriented,   they talk about.   Okay. Militia. Okay.   Yeah. Yeah.   And   they don't talk about getting stupid like some of these people   creating an incident, but thing is is being ready for one.  

[02:56:38] Unknown:

Right. Right. Right. Yep. Okay.   Alright. Well, then we'll now that that's Mark. But you the show, we're talking about David Gaddy. What's your name?  

[02:56:46] Unknown:

Mike Gaddy.  

[02:56:48] Unknown:

Mike Gaddy. Yeah. And I'll be on here tonight.   I gotta do two  

[02:56:53] Unknown:

before that. Mhmm. Yep. And I let me see here.  

[02:56:59] Unknown:

Oh, shoot. I call you too, Brent. We wanna kinda talk to you off the records.  

[02:57:04] Unknown:

Yeah. We can do that, sometime.   Let me go to this thing.   Shoot. I had it for Annette, and I should have sent it to you.   That way you can get on the app a lot easier.  

[02:57:20] Unknown:

Oh, wait a minute. You told me to find the free you got that's all about the FCC one, are you?  

[02:57:25] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said that's what I that's what oh, you did? Oh, okay. And you found 38  

[02:57:33] Unknown:

that room? Wait a minute. Let me let me hold on. Let me let me do it right quick here. FCC.  

[02:57:39] Unknown:

Hold on. Yeah. I'll send you a picture of it and,  

[02:57:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Send me a pic yeah. Yeah. Send me a picture of it and I can be able to find it. Yeah.   That'd be good. Freedom. Yeah. Freedom.   Yeah. Just all that. I don't know what that crap.  

[02:57:54] Unknown:

Okay.   I don't know what I was thinking, but, you know, I should have sent that to you. I'll send the, Radio Ranch one to you also.   And,  

[02:58:04] Unknown:

because I think Somebody sent Radio Ranch. Hold on. Hold on. Somebody did send Radio Ranch to us. Hold on.   Okay. That would be I think Julie sent that, hold on. Tony? Julie? Oh, Tony just put the book in there. Yeah. That's it. Oh, let me send that to, I'm a send that to,   Brent, Tony. Yeah. Rudy Rudy Stanko.   And I'm glad that one gentleman chimed in and said he had read that because that's that's where that's the book that led me onto the journey of the Jewish question.  

[02:58:31] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. That's Joe from MOCA.  

[02:58:34] Unknown:

He's a great guy. Oh, wait a minute. You you sent me send me a text? Let me see. Brent?  

[02:58:39] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm sending you one. Yep. Oh, okay. Now you have Radio Ranch and 38 Rebel Madman.   Okay. Now I got it. And if you can't get in if you can't get through the app, you can get through the number and,  

[02:58:52] Unknown:

you know Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I thought I I thought download the FCC   with Freedom   Freedom Conference Call or something like that?  

[02:59:02] Unknown:

It's FreedomConferenceCall.com.   It's up at the top of the picture if you take a look, and   then,   you know, it'll ask, you know, what you wanna, you know, join and put that in there and, you know, 38 rebel madman and,   bam, you're there.  

[02:59:20] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. I'm waiting for it to get the thing to download. I'm a yeah. I got my suite of copy stuff.   Okay. Or we can call in. Either way, we can call in too. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You can do that. Okay. Alright. I got it then, buddy. Alright. Cool. Alright. I'll talk to you tomorrow. I mean, tonight. Oh. I'll see you then. Okay. Okay. Alright, buddy. Take it easy. Bye. Well,  

[02:59:43] Unknown:

that was a rousing call.   Well, I gotta get getting on here.   I'll catch you guys sometime.   Bye.  

[02:59:51] Unknown:

Good to see you, Brett.  

[02:59:53] Unknown:

Uh-huh.   Andy had put something in the, chat here. I'm copying it. Make sure I have it.   Okay.   Got the bitch. Shoot one. Cool.  

[03:00:05] Unknown:

Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

[03:00:11] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle. Bye. You're breaking the  

[03:00:16] Unknown:

awakening.