In this Saturday edition of Roger Sales Radio Ranch on the Global Voice Radio Network, we opened the phones for a lively Q&A focused on national status, passports, and practical steps for navigating IDs, driver’s licenses, and vehicle registration as a newly-declared national. A new caller, Alma from New Jersey, sparked a deep dive into handling DMV renewals, passport cards for everyday ID, mailing strategies (FIRM book), and notifying authorities, while the crew shared real-world stories, tactics to avoid unnecessary court entanglements, and the importance of moving at your own pace. We also welcomed Rachel from Arizona with trust and property questions (deferring details to Brent’s trust course), fielded CDL and address issues from Minnesota, and heard community perspectives on lawful travel, insurance considerations, notices, and educating local officials. The after-show ranged widely—from local sovereignty tactics and mailing formats (nondomestic mail stop) to broader discussions on sound money, public banking ideas, and community self-governance. Resources mentioned by callers include Joe Lustica’s Rumble channel for DOT-tag approaches, notice templates, community sites, and guidance on national status processes, plus tips for passport card usage, ID alternatives, and how to keep peace on the road while asserting rights.
Overall, it was a candid, practical session for newcomers and veterans alike—emphasizing prudence, education, and steady progress over confrontation, with an open door to continue learning throughout the week (except Thanksgiving Day).
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Well, alrighty. And we we'd like to change it enough that we'll get out of bed on on the weekend on Saturday and come do a radio show in case there's any new folks that couldn't join us during the week that can on Saturday. We'd like to answer your questions. Good morning. Roger Sales Radio Ranch, Saturday edition. November 22, very significant day, and I think we have a very abbreviated list of helpers here today. Very abbreviated. Is that correct, Paul? I think it is. Right?
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Yeah. Eurofolk radio dot com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Global Voice Radio Network, that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Homenetwork.tv, and freedomnation.tv, go live tv, and stream life.tube. They are not with us today, but, we are on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net, which is happy for sure. I love it. That's it. Our website, thematrixstocks.com, and that's where you find all the good stuff.
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Well, it may be alright. You the last few Saturdays, we've had exemplary shows, I thought, with, folks that don't join us during the week because they can't. Come on. Tom was there last week, and we had a good show. And if I remember correctly, the Saturday show before that was, in my eyes, very good. I'm a, you know, I kinda critique these things. You know, when you had a good show, and we've had some good ones lately. Had a number of new new folks lately and maybe the same today. Don't know. But, anyway, shows for use for people that wanna get out from under the burden of, well, shall I say Jewish slavery? That's what it is.
And, we'd love to help you and thumb your nose at them and go. So, if there's any of you like that, it's a good time to step forward and, or you might be too shy here at the very start, Paul. They might be too shy. They might wanna see what goes on here before they stick their toe in the big pool. So whenever you do, just star six and and hey, Roger. And got a question or comment or something. Love to meet you. I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions, like, where are you in the country and, how'd you find us? Those kind of things which interest me.
And, so, anyway, happy Saturday, Paul. I guess you sent me an email last night. We had a, I I was not in attendance. I left a little early yesterday. Man, y'all wow. Yeah. Just for hours hours you'd go on. And, they had a a little makeshift, what do they call those? A mock trial? A little mock trial yesterday like in law school. Not quite like in law school, but kinda. And, the, there there was one Ferris that was, the the defendant. He didn't get a chance to say anything, but, it came to a point that, man, it's just overwhelming. Ferris is the people just people on the board here, the regulars just don't like your ass. And I have a very, I it really puts me in a very, very precipitous position in the middle because I'm really a free speech guy. I want you if you got something to say to come on, but you always come on and blow it. I mean, every time. So I I I I yeah. It's the most contentious thing that I've seen in all my years of broadcasting is Farris.
K?
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Well, I did because he wasn't here. I did enter a proxy vote of yes for him, but then again, I voted no, so that negated that. So I see. But I I didn't just enter a proxy vote for him. So he bled not guilty? He didn't have a chance to plead. He wasn't here. So I bled not guilty for him. Well, that's what I mean. You were a proxy not guilty.
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And, Farris, if you do, you don't very rarely do you ever have anything to add to the constituency of what we do around here. Something we're talking about true. Yeah. You may in just a second, please.
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And it was straight to 12.
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Just straight to 12,
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at least. Okay. Anyway, it was severely you were severely downvoted that people just they don't like you coming in and disrupting our program, Farris. I have a place of warm I have a warm spot in my heart for you because I think all dissenting opinions need to be listened to. I just went through something like this with these yahoos down here, the Israeli firsters. So, you've got a little bit of my empathy here, Farris, but you keep destroying it. Okay. So it's something in your defense.
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So was Jesus Christ, voted down by everyone. You say something. Don't even
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think about it.
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I didn't compare myself. Why don't you be quiet for a minute and let me speak?
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Well, you know how that works out when you tell people to be quiet. I hear you. Don't you?
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Fair enough. You're your own worst. You're your own worst enemy. Now Paul, let him know here first. Let's see. Just how far, just how far he goes over the line. Okay. We can't all talk at once, Ferris. I think you've learned you're a Mensa guy. You should have learned by now we all can't talk at once. Okay. Now I'm gonna turn it over to you, and I want you to say your piece.
[00:08:20] Unknown:
Yeah. The most valuable thing I can offer today is the speech to the Dearborn, Michigan city council dated November 18. If you go to your YouTube on your TV and you type in this, first name, Jake, and I'll give you the last name in a minute. But he's a man who stepped up to the Muslims in the different city council and talked for all of his three minutes with all of the confidence and eloquence of of, the great orders, Cicero, we explained why Muslims in Dearborn who have just in this country, should get the f out. Now let me give you his name just so that you might, have an opportunity to hear the greatest thing that's now recorded YouTubes.
Now I have trouble remembering this guy's last name. First name, Jake. And when the city councilman calls on, his formal name is Edward. So let me see if this might be oh, yes. I have it for you. It is Lang, spelled l as in lesbian, a n g. G. Lang. And if you go to YouTube and type in the following words, Jake Lang, get the fuck out. You this recording. And you will be amazed if this you can see you're you're you're a great communicator, and you will be in awe of this example, and you will learn from this, young man who was incarcerated in Washington DC as a j sixer for a year, took his freedom through solitary confinement because he was a a real man. He went down there to support his president.
And now he's telling the all the Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan to get the fuck out. And it's only three minutes, so don't deny this, don't deny your this opportunity to hear Jake Lang, youtube.com on your TV.
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I saw part of this. Saw part of it on some clip. You don't wanna miss it's only a it's only,
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it's only a three minute speech. There are some partials out there. You wanna avoid the partial videos. You wanna get the entire video because it's always a better look. And this is this is a this is a speech that has spurred, men to action. And and it will probably bring about a civil strife and a war in that town. And, hopefully, it will spread throughout the country so that we can fight. We now have an opportunity to fight the war that must be fight. Some things are worth dying for. And one is The United States Of America. And this kid let leads the charge. The views on it, I when I saw it, there were 684 views in the morning. I looked that night, and it was 17,000.
I looked last night, and it was 70,000. So this thing is going like wildfire. Catch it if you can and yield.
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Okay. Ferris, I want you to apologize to your friend. You brought Pam, I think, yesterday then. But and I hope I don't know if she's with us today or not, but I hope she understood and you informed her that you were, well, a controversial character to some extent around here. K? Because I don't want her to think like we act every we don't treat anybody, Ferris, like we treat you. Okay? I mean, really. And it's just because of whatever it is in your personality that well, we got a little sandpaper action going on. It's like you great people, like number extra large sandpaper.
So anyway, that was not bad. Totally awful, well, you know, but it's alright. I understand it's topical. So okay. Thank you. You've minded your p's and q's. Go ahead. He didn't hear that.
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He didn't hear that because the moment he said I yield, he left.
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So he didn't he didn't hear that, but I was ready to move him to a neutered room with the third f bomb, and I was waiting for it. So But just an unusual character. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Here, the the dialectic of Farris is lady Linda. Where's lady Linda been? We hadn't seen or heard from her in a couple of weeks. She's the one that pointed him over here and then had to apologize profusely because her husband doesn't even want him coming around their house anymore. So, as I said, Ferris is a controversial character. I've never seen anyone disrupt a a broadcast program like this guy does.
So anyway Well, well, he's he's back now. And Okay. Well, anyway, there you said you were on your p's and q's, and you didn't thanks for the information. We've seen the incident. And, yeah, very courageous to get up there in front of them. We don't as much battle the Muslims around here as we do the Jews. Okay? And the feds. So Farish, we can't both talk at the same time. Mister okay? So, anyway, that's, that's my read on that. So so I don't wanna spend the whole show on Ferris. Okay? I just wanna mention nobody else is out front, and this is a controversial thing. And and and and Paul did a little little extra judicial work after the show yesterday and sent the recording to me. So it was interesting.
You know? Ferris, I'm in your I'm one of the only ones around here that's in your corner, buddy, to some extent. Okay? So just mind your p's and q's.
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When when you called him out yesterday and gave him the floor, all of my moderators left. Mark was in here, and he hung up. And I don't know who else left the program when I'm curious to understand. You actually called on him. When you come on, some of our key people just leave.
[00:15:05] Unknown:
That's the umbrage that they have for you with all your crap that you've brought us. So, you really put me in a bad position, Farris. You really did. He keeps moving himself out of Room 1.
[00:15:20] Unknown:
Next time I have to move you, Ferris, I'm gonna move you to another state. Okay?
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Alright. Next time I have to move you back to Room 1, I'm gonna move you to another state. We may have new people listening here, and we're having to put up with this shit, and they're going, what the hell is this? So just understand, this is a very unusual guy, and he has created a very unusual situation. And, he just offends people. Okay? And he seems to revel in it. So anyway
[00:15:52] Unknown:
Alright. You are welcome to listen. This morning. You're welcome to listen to the program. We're on Global Voice Network. We're on Eurofolk Radio. We're on Rumble. There's plenty of opportunity for you to listen to the program. But people don't like it when you when you speak. So So please knock it off. Let's try and turn turn Let's make lemonade out of lens. Forward. Okay. We can go go somewhere.
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So are there any of our, folks that are new wanting to ask a question about the normal things we do around here? We can take the show and get it off on a little more positive direction, please? I mean, I got out of bed on a Saturday morning to come do this. Nobody? Well, how many folks we got on the board there this morning, Paul? 38. Okay. Well, yes. Yes. There's a female. Yes, ma'am. This is Alma here from New Jersey. Hey, Alma. How are you doing, babe?
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I am well. Thank you so much. How are you guys doing?
[00:17:00] Unknown:
Pretty good. There's a little thing here with this guy that's to the north of you up, a bit. And he's just, he's an unusual situation, and I hate it. I don't know how to deal with it, honestly. It it kind of perplexes me. Anyway, let's get over to you because there's people like you that the show's about, not him. Because you're new. You're you were a Mexican national, you naturalized, you got your husband and your family here, you stumbled on to my name in a in a in some kind of symposium. Somebody mentioned it to you. You went out diligently and tracked it down, and you found us.
And and we love that, Alma.
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Yes. Yes. I I have a comment and a couple of questions. So I am still receiving the note I mean, the green papers for the notices that I send out for myself, my husband, my two kids. Mhmm. And I received back from let's see. It's from because I'm New Jersey. Right? So from the state of the Department of Treasury, because I notified them. I notified, like, 16 different places.
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Okay. Well and and
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and I
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wish we'd you'd ask us. We could've saved you a little money on that, but go ahead. So the tray Department of the Treasury of New Jersey wrote you back?
[00:18:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they didn't wrote back to me. They they just send me the whatever I sent to them, you know, the notice and with the copy that I sent to the secretary of state, and they just send it back, but with a sticky note, that says we do not handle this type of information in this office. And it was only for both of my kids. So my cousin and I have not been returned.
[00:18:55] Unknown:
Okay. Well, they're not they're right. What you'd wanna notify in New Jersey is not the treasurer. I didn't know each state has a treasury. I guess they do. But you'd wanna notify the taxing authority of New Jersey. And what we've kind of come to the conclusion conclusion of is that you when you're doing your notices and you send a notice IRS that you're leaving their little wonderful little family, and then the same time you do that CC thing for the state of New Jersey taxing authority, and then they'll see that you've notified the IRS. And I think that might save us some grief. It's just another it's one of those things. This process, Alma, we used to just have people send the affidavit in to for the passport office.
And that's where you did it for first few years. And then that situation came up and we had to rethink it and we altered it. We send the cold affidavit to the secretary of state first and how you do these cc's and how you had them with those phrases that are important and all that. It's just been a process that we've developed over all these years. So that's the latest wrinkle is on the notification to IRS. You'd cc the state taxing authority, New Jersey taxing, whatever. And I think that might help us out a bit. So, yes, you've been, for anybody else, if you're listening to Almond, I'm gonna use you to go to school for these folks.
There's a thing at the post office called a FIRM book, f I r m. I'd never heard of it before. Hell, I used to work for Pitney Bowes, the postal people. I'd never heard of that. You can ask the people at the post office. And instead of all those, what are those return receipt cost? 10 or $11 a piece now. Right? Something like that. It used to be $2. You know? Well, you you instead of doing all those individually, you can incorporate them all into this firm book, and they kinda group do them for you is my understanding. If for anybody else that's out there that's gonna approach doing this instead of spending what copious amounts of money, $10.10, $11 a piece on the green certified redeem return receipt requested.
You can do it all through this firm book. You can save yourself probably with a situation like yours with children, husband, and wife. You can probably save yourself a a a nice little pile of chains there and doing it that way. Anyway, Alma, you did it the other way and just getting them back and you got this letter back. It's meaningless from the treasury because they're right. They don't have anything to do with that. K? So, what else can we, help you with in your process here?
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Okay. Now the question is about the driver's life driver's license and the plates on the car. Like like because soon, it will be the time to renew the, registration and then my driver's license and my husband's, I think, is good for another two years. So what do we do with that? Do we wait until they expires and then we let it go? Or how would that work?
[00:22:13] Unknown:
You know, this is how let me ask you this question. With your newfound freedom, how far do you wanna press it? Do you wanna accept what you got, or you wanna continue to press it along these lines? And that's what you're doing. I'm not telling you not to do it. K? But the tag and the driver's license and all that, because that opens you up potentially for some problems. I'm not saying you'll have them. You may not. I'm not sure how friendly New Jersey is for us, but Joe may Joe up there in Northern New Jersey may have set a precedent for you.
[00:22:50] Unknown:
I can speak on that. So okay. What what what what I can speak on that. Was that When you get the driver's license, you're entering into an adhesion contract. And even if you don't renew your driver's license, the contract is still understood, presumed to be enforced. And when you register a motor vehicle, you transfer ownership over to the state and that transfer doesn't expire and revert back to you if you let the registration lapse. The only thing they do is throw another charge on you driving after suspended registration or expired registration. They turn it into a crime.
Depend just decide what hill you're gonna die on. And if renewing your driver's license and renewing your license plates on your car, as long as it's inspectable and it's otherwise operable within the confines of man's law, go ahead and do that. It will save you a ton of trouble. You will sleep well at night. And if push comes to shove and they do try to violate your rights, you have your national status so you can address that in court and get your life back, hopefully.
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Alma, this is one of the really sticky areas of this because of local jurisdiction and policemen that don't have any idea what you're talking about, and they think they own everybody and everything, and they don't like you telling them law stuff. So I can't tell you, nobody can, which decision to make, but I can show you the other side. Sometimes people keep their driver's license because your driver's license really is for driving and you're you're technically driving in commerce. K? That's the the illusion that they've got you under and how they can control you. So they think you're driving in commerce and you're not. But sometimes you might be.
I mean, we've got students that sometimes do use their automobiles for commerce. And so, legitimately, if they were doing that, they'd need a driver's license because that's what that gives you permission to do. We had an interesting situation. I don't remember who it was, but they got pulled over. And most of our students will use their passport card as ID. And, so, and and so the cop goes back, says you got a driver's license. And the guy goes, yeah. But I wasn't in commerce. So he just gave him the passport ID. In other words, the the the driver's license could have some viability if you did drive in commerce. I don't know if, you know, just different examples.
But, and on the tag, this is another Joe. The guy in New Jersey that's such a a wonderful addition to our family here is named Joe Lustica Alma. He lives up, I think, up in Northern New Jersey. And, Joe has his own Rumble channel, rumble.comfront/joe Lustica, just like it sounds, l u s t I c a. And Joe's done some wonderful pioneering work here. I don't know if we you've heard us mentioned, Joe. He almost got his city back from the state of New Jersey. So they stopped him driving. He pursued it through several levels of appeals and everything else. He went back to the original, paperwork when the city was founded and said that they'd adhere to the constitution, this, that, and the other, and he caught him not doing that. So he filed a type of suit and then he served the governor and the attorney general of the state.
And all of a sudden they came back and wanted to drop all the charges and be real play real nicey nicey. So the next step was Joe and the citizens of the I don't know. I don't even know what town it is, but they would own the town and all these civil people that had broken law would be out. So we had that happen that close in your state by this guy, Joe Lustica. Well, one of the other things Joe, came up with was how to get a department of transportation number for a private vehicle. So do you on the car, do you own the car? Have you is it paid off, or are you still paying for it?
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No. My car, I'm still paying for. My husband's, truck is paid off.
[00:27:45] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I think you could do it on the paid off vehicle because there's no lien on it or or other ownership by the bank. But you can go. There's he's got videos over on the Rumble channel, rumble.comfront/joelustica. And some people go and get that DDT number or whatever it is, DMT number, some number, and make it into a license tag and put that on the back of their car. So there's several things you can do, but it really depends on you. And I, I when is your license due to renew?
[00:28:27] Unknown:
I think it's on on 2028. Maybe on sometime in the 2020 a year.
[00:28:35] Unknown:
Listen. You got plenty of time. You don't have to make this decision right now. Go ahead and get everything else online. And as you grow into the information and feel more comfortable, you can make those decisions. If it's two years away, you got plenty of time. K? I mean, the way things are going, there's no telling what the situation will be in two years, quite frankly.
[00:28:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I guess, you know, then, my question is if if they will not, you know, go back to me and say, hey. But you still renew your driver's license. You still renew your registrations on your cars and your vehicles. And you say you're a national. So No. They'll never our jurisdiction.
[00:29:20] Unknown:
No. No. No. That won't that that you can't do that to override your affidavit with the secretary of state because you're under threat, duress, and coercion. In other words, the reason you do this because you might get pulled over by a guy on the side of the road with a less than a 100 IQ and a Glock on his hip, and you don't wanna fight that battle there. Okay? So you're doing it under threat, duress, coercion. Some people put that above their signature, t d c. There's other ways around that. But that you that will not negate your national status. Okay?
[00:29:58] Unknown:
Okay. I see that then. It'll be probably now I'm thinking the same for my husband's because, I don't know if I mentioned that he likes to hunt, so he, gets a hunting license and also, fishing license. So to, let's say, avoid while you mentioned that while we get confident on on the information and then, you know, learn more, then, if he wants to renew that, he it's okay, and he will not lose, like, you know No. No. What we just got because we definitely want to you know? We want our freedom.
[00:30:38] Unknown:
Alma, there's nothing that you can do except put in another affidavit saying I don't wanna be a national anymore. I wanna be a citizen of The United States on the fourteenth amendment. That would switch you back. To my knowledge, that's the only way because here's something you're missing. Everything's gotta be voluntary. K? So if you have to go get a license or something under threat again of trying to go out and hunt and confronting with killing the king's deer or whatever. All these things are under some kind of threat and nothing you can do except negate it. It can can turn your status around.
Everything's gotta be voluntary. Now here here's a case for you. Here's a case for you. Afryom, a f y o a f r y o m, Afryom, I think. Somebody can spell it out for, versus Rusk. It was a nineteen sixty sixties case. It overturned a previous Supreme Court decision from the fifties. Now here's the situation. Afraheim was a Hungarian Jew. He immigrated over here voluntarily. He naturalized went through the naturalization pro process like you did and your family. And, then they caught him voting in an Israeli election, which at that time was illegal. And so they came back and they tried to take his rights away, his newly acquired US fourteenth amendment rights.
And they, they actually had the precedent from the supreme court, and they revisited the issue. And they came back and said, no. You can't take his rights away even though he violated a regular relation rule, whatever it was. Now what they didn't tell you so much as come right out and say it is the reason they can't take his rights away is because everything's gotta be voluntary. Now we have had found one what's brought this up. They can take your citizenship rights away if you lied on the documents that you filled out coming into the country. Because they ask you, are you a member of a wanna overthrow the US government? However they ask you.
And that this new mayor up there answered no. And they were already planning to do that years earlier. So under that auspice, they could go in because he lied on his insurance documents and take his rights away and send me back to wherever the hell he came from. Okay? But that's the only way, and I didn't know they could do that until recently. Otherwise, everything's gotta be voluntary. You've gotta give them away. What they didn't tell Afraim was that he could give his fourteenth amendment rights and become a natural. He could give them away and become a national. They didn't tell Afraim that.
But these are the all these little nuances in what you're you're involved in now that you need to understand because they give you some background. So no. Don't worry about it. Don't lose sleep at night, Alma. They can't take those away from you.
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Okay?
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K.
[00:34:30] Unknown:
Does that make you feel better?
[00:34:33] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Because I was trying to figure out what we're going we were going to do. You know. And and and, I mean, I'm I'm not afraid if I have the information and I have the knowledge. That's something I am not, you know. Otherwise, I wouldn't have, you know, completed this and and then move on.
[00:34:56] Unknown:
That's why I'm so glad to see you around here as often as you have been. And I want you to continue as best you can to hang out with us, and you will learn this stuff. There's a lot to learn. You don't have to learn it all at once, and there's really nothing to be scared of. Let me just ask the audience. Have any of you run into anything in your national life that are are we're talking about being scared about? I I doubt if you'll have anybody on the 38, 40, whatever people we got here that'll answer anything because we just don't hear anything. Excuse me. We don't hear anything like that. And the as I've said 44 now.
44 on the board. Hey, Tom. You got any, suggestions for Alma here?
[00:35:43] Unknown:
Well, after having lived in New Jersey, my first suggestion would be to move. But, hey. I'll tell you what. It's been a it was a couple of time a couple of times, you know, if I hadn't been friends with the colonel or the state police, I'd have been behind bars a couple of times, you know, just for, you know and not really doing anything wrong. You know, one for one's for having a a loaded gun in New Jersey and, you know, another one for, I don't know, doing something dumb, speeding or something, I think, or made a wrong turn or I don't know. I can't remember. It was such a long time ago, but, you know, keep your friends close, your enemies closer.
Yeah. You weren't a national. Yeah. New Jersey. Right? Yeah. No. No. No. I wasn't. You know, that was, you know, my other other methods of keeping my butt, free. But New Jersey, probably the only state that I can think of that's worse than New Jersey is North Carolina. I mean, just, you know, in New Jersey, you can tell a cop, a thousand times that two plus two is four, and he's gonna say, no. It's not. It's five. And, you know, there's nothing you're gonna do to change your mind, you know, unless you bring a box of Dunkin' Donuts with you or something. I don't know. You know, I know that's that's not really true, but,
[00:37:08] Unknown:
you know me hungry, Tom.
[00:37:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. But it's, no. I can't stand New Jersey.
[00:37:18] Unknown:
So Well, Alma lives down in South.
[00:37:20] Unknown:
And New Jersey is pretty bad. Just just, you know, I I, you know, I'm I'm 70 now, so I'm not even worried about trying to fight. You know, I did my fights with the traffic laws and stuff way back during the Tupper Saucy days. I probably a lot of people don't know who or what that is, but, you know, I had my I had my, wins with that, but it's it's you know, do you wanna go about your life? You know, are you busy? Are you working? You know, you're trying to, you know, make a living? Then you don't need that extra hassle.
[00:37:53] Unknown:
It's just like just because you've got a driver's license does not make you a citizen of The United States. Because it's under threat, duress, coercion, and you don't wanna fight those battles, at least I wouldn't I don't wanna fight those battles. K? If you still have a driver's license and just, drive, responsibly under the speed limit, don't run red lights. Don't press the envelope because this is an area. The reason ALMA is not because we're not right. It's because we're dealing with people that are ignorant but control the area.
Now they have what's called jurisdiction. So the roads and stuff inside their territorial jurisdiction, the county, whatever it was, they've got jurisdiction on that, but it's a different type of jurisdiction. It's called subject matter because it's the roads and they're in that county that built, paid for, and maintains the roads. But now you and all of us do not have personal jurisdiction that they control. They control the subject matter, but they don't control the personal jurisdiction. We've changed that. And some these people just don't understand this. They've never run into other people like this before, generally. They've heard about them. They wanna call you a sovereign citizen and misidentify you and all that stuff. But the reason is is the local people don't understand this, and they don't like you telling them that they don't know their job and that they don't have, authority over you. And so that's, to me, where the conflict comes in. And it just depends. So which like Tom said, which hill do you wanna die on?
Okay? Because if you get into that and you try and start fighting them in their arena, you're they're gonna steal your life. Because I'm assuming, Alma, you don't know too much about court procedure and all that, do you? No. No. Well, so you gotta go in and learn all that to go in there and battle them. And even if you win, they kinda steal your life because you've had to spend so much time learning what they do. So this is one of those that I just say put on the side. Don't worry about it right now. Just do everything. Here, you you folks wanna be nationals.
With that choice comes personal responsibility. And and I think I was saying it yesterday or day before, you know, some folks get into this, some of these young bucks, and they go, I'm gonna press the envelope. So they drive a 100 miles an hour in Downtown Main Street and run two traffic lights. Well, I'm a national. Well, that's just stupid. Okay? Mhmm. And and we don't wanna act like that. We wanna be responsible. That's what we represent. And if we're gonna represent our position to others, we want them to see the goodness in it. And the goodness in it is being personally responsible. Because see, that's what you're really doing is you're becoming personal responsible for all your actions.
You can't go back on suck on government tit. Okay? So that's kinda what's going on. And as a new person with a family, take it slowly, Alma. We we will guide you by the hand, and we will help you make a decision that is best for you where you can sleep good at night. Because I'm assuming that you like to sleep good at night. Is that correct? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. Well, just well, just calm down. Take a step at a time. You've got the ball. I want you to be comfortable dribbling it. These these things you brought up today, especially with two year time window down the road, let's worry about them later. K?
[00:41:57] Unknown:
Okay. Comment.
[00:41:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright. Tom.
[00:42:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, just to give you a little perspective on it, I mean, I've been in this battle for forty five years or more. Longer than I have. Well, yeah. Well, I wish I had met you a long time ago, Roger, but, it's, you know, it's a big, long road of education. I mean, you're, you know, you're you're proficient in, you know, adding, subtracting, and multiplication and division, but now you're gonna you're just gonna go jump in and start doing calculus or trigonometry. You gotta do it. You have to have the training. So the only what I can suggest is is that I've heard people, and I haven't been pulled over in I don't know how many years, but if you get pulled over something, you know, you make a mistake, you know, you roll through a stop sign or something or whatever.
Give them your give them your passport card. You know, when you get your did she get, did she get her, passport and passport card yet? I'm pretty sure she's wife. Well yeah. Yes. I guess, still haven't gotten them yet. But I will. Yeah. Well, I've just thought about it. I figured, like, if I get pulled over, I'm gonna say, oh, damn. I I forgot my wallet. Oh, wait a minute. Here. I got my here's my passport card. And give that to him and see what happens. You know, I've heard from other people that said they've given it to him and they go like, okay. Well, you know what? Just slow down or, you know, make a full stop next time, you know, and, you know, they give you a warning and let you off. You know? That's that's the the probably the best outcome I can think of. You know? You you don't you really don't wanna get into a court battle because they will run you over, like, you know, you'll just think, you're the coyote and they're roadrunner.
[00:43:44] Unknown:
So Let let me ask Alma something here. Alma, have you ever been in a court situation before?
[00:43:52] Unknown:
No. Maybe maybe wants to pay a fine for, you know, driving while I was trying to on my phone looking for an address, and they were thinking that I was using the phone or something like that. Uh-huh. Yeah. But, no. Nothing big. It was just, you know, like yeah.
[00:44:11] Unknown:
It's just I promise you. It's just no it's no fun unless you gotta be in there or you really wanna be to learn. Now that was a very popular thing in the early days, my early days in this movement, because the fines and the penalties are fairly low. You never can run up a big one, and it's a good place to go in and get we used to be in in a courtroom, so you're not so, unaware of what's happening and unknowledgeable about it. You're not scared because you can't hardly go in there and not be scared. Some people may be able to. It's just no reason to put yourself in that. And one of the things we try and do excuse me. My stomach is acting up. One of the things we try and do is keep you out of court because it's just it's not a lot of fun, and it's, it's just not a lot of fun.
So and they see but my thing is even if you win, you've had to put so much of your life on the back burner to learn rules and how to do stuff and what to do and serving people and all that crap. By the time you've learned all that, they've won because they've stolen your life. And it's just not worth it to me. Now you Mhmm. Will be able to make that decision for yourself, but you don't have to make it right now. Drive carefully. K?
[00:45:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Alright. Anybody got any other words of advice for Alma here? Hey, Roger. Yeah, Roger. Hey, Roger. The only thing I can, the only way I can comment about that is that the tickets are made the the the fines the amount of the fines are made on what they think people will pay but not to the point where it's too much where people will say, you know what, this is too much. I'm gonna fight it because like you said, you gotta take a day off work, you may lose a pay's pay, You gotta stand in line. You gotta wait. You're gonna lose you're just gonna waste the whole day maybe more trying to get, you know, fight a ticket like that. Now the other side of that coin is if everyone that got a ticket, I don't care if it's a parking ticket or, you know, speeding a 100 mile an hour on Main Street and running two red lights like you said. If everybody that ever got a ticket fought it, the whole system would collapse because they depend on people just saying, you know what? This $150 ticket is not worth me losing a day or I might get, you know, I'm gonna have to ask my boss for a day off or I gotta take away off of work. All of the crap that you gotta put up with, it's just not it's, you know but if everybody in the world, everybody in The United States, they gotta take it for it, the thing the system would crumble because they just couldn't they wouldn't be able to deal with it because it is a it is a criminal offense.
And, and, you know, and you do have the right to a speedy trial. So the NCBA wouldn't be able to come, you know, they wouldn't be able to to be able to deal with that. But, you know, when I the first time I ever did it, I did it with a I did it I did it with a parking ticket. I I went and got a parking ticket and I went into the judge and that was back, like I said, in the Tupper saucy days and I and I actually won because I told the judge, judge, I don't I don't have any dollars. I said, I I wasn't gonna put counterfeit coins into the machine there. I said, that's gonna swallow. And he kinda looked at me, he goes, okay. Dismissed.
And I don't know whether I I he understood what I was yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I was fighting the money issue back then. That was with the Tupper Saw f Tupper Sawcy. His book, Miracle on Main Street. And, he had it was yeah. Unfortunately, it didn't work for everybody.
[00:47:50] Unknown:
Yeah. It got him ten years on the on the road and a failure to file charge.
[00:47:58] Unknown:
You know, you go to the top of the list. That's a that's a another whole debacle.
[00:48:02] Unknown:
Most of these folks have never even heard of the bomb.
[00:48:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You'll see. I'm here every day and learn, and you'll you'll pick all this stuff up. You'll hear other people's experiences, and you can decide for yourself whether you wanna, you know, you wanna pick a bigger battle, but you need some education first. Like I said, I've been doing it forty five years, and it's a lot. So Because
[00:48:23] Unknown:
But welcome to the show.
[00:48:25] Unknown:
Yep. Now you're self government.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Yes, lad.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
That's right. That's what we're talking about. You're talking about self government. It really is labeled technically, I'll get you a second, Samuel. Is labeled our anarchy. They've turned people's minds where they think anarchy is somebody throwing Molotov cocktails at buildings, but it's not. It's self government. And it's the real opposite end of the scale of communism, which is where they own you and everything else. Not it's not communism and fascism left and right. Those are both somewhat similar systems of government. The real political scale is communism on the left and anarchy on the right.
Now, Samuel, what have you got here for the lovely Alma?
[00:49:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I, I have an approach that I gonna use, and I think it's middle ground, and I think it's substantive. You know, when you go and buy a gun, they recommend you don't buy one bullet. And I think you have to weaponize yourself with your notices when you apply those. What I'm gonna do with my notices is, once I have all my paperwork done and get it recorded at the county, my my elodeon, my land patent, attached to that is my affidavit and my declaration of independence. Once those are there and the declaration is run-in my local paper, I'm gonna take that sandwich of, documents.
And then I'm gonna notice the the people like the AG, the sheriff. I'm very rural, so I'm usually gonna be dealing with him and a local district attorney as you've recommended. But it within that, I'm gonna tell them who I am, where I am, and what I am, and what they have to do to if they wanted to speak to me and what the rules are. So I'm a Christian. They need a Christian name. Okay. They need a proper location for me, not an address. And if they can't do that, then they're breaking the rules unless they can come back at me and tell me why they object. And if in so many days they haven't objected, it's gonna be in there that they're in agreement with me.
When it comes to the driver's license, I think we can use the doctrine of necessity. No. Now that they know who you are, I'm gonna say that with the doctrine of necessity, because for me, I'm going to make the claim that a driver's license is a matter of life and death. And I'm gonna tell them that out of necessity, I'm going to keep that driver's license, but I'm not waiving any of my rights as that man that I am that I've just explained to him that I am. And if they have a objection to that, again, I'm gonna ask them for a response, or they're in agreement with me. That's how I'm gonna handle a lot of this.
I think that way you've loaded your gun. You've got extra ammo. I'm gonna send that registered mail, so have chain of custody to those main three people. And if if if I get pulled over or whatever, I can hand them those documentation to say your agency's been put on notice, sheriff department. Anybody else? The district attorney's been put on notice. That's how I think I'm gonna handle it for myself.
[00:52:21] Unknown:
So, Alma, he's trying to get, his land off the property rules also. I don't think that's part of your goals here. And Samuel's very knowledgeable, and he's, very detail oriented as you could tell. And, good on you. Anybody else got something they'd like to tell Alma, encouragement or whatever?
[00:52:44] Unknown:
Roger. Nobody?
[00:52:46] Unknown:
Well, there's somebody. Jesse wants to yak with you, Alma. Young probably talk in Spanish. Go ahead, Jesse.
[00:52:53] Unknown:
Well, Baskets, if she could talk Baskets. But, anyways okay. And I don't know that either. But anyways, you know, we gotta look at this a long term. And, I've been realizing, you know, when Jesus came, he he got 12 disciple and and Christianity expanded from 12 men forward. And that's sort of the same thing that you started many years ago. And everybody, all those patriotic men, they have piece of the puzzles. It's been a long time to get to this situation. And like you said, there was 1,000 people there in the audience, and you took this and kept on going. And, long term, every individual comes here.
Sometime we're just looking at the mirror to ourself and what how this help us with the taxes or driver license. But, you know, in our case or many cases, now it's not just the older generation. It's the middle, and it's the younger one. Many have come here with 20 years old, 18, I think. And now the third generation, in our case, I have three generations that's in national. And now it's even has gone even further because it's not just being a national, but no, no Social Security, no birth certificate, and you still get your passport. The only the only obstacle that we have going forward sorry about that.
The only problem that we have in the future is ignorance. Every time you face a police officer and stingers and, and face it on these officials that don't know nothing in including your family, your coworkers, and so on. If you look forward, we have started something that we might not see everything in the next year or two years. But twenty years, thirty years, fifty years from now, we have started something that's is beautiful to see. And I I give thanks to the Lord, and I give thanks to Roger and to all the community here. So we should not be worried too much how fast we learn this based on your skills and your needs.
Just keep on going forward and eating this, elephant one bite at a time.
[00:55:12] Unknown:
Yeah. And another hat that we wear, Alma, is we've gotta educate these people. Like, if you're talking about the not the guy on the side of the road with the gu Glock, but if you follow through on that, you're gonna have paperwork in. And all along that way, how, you're gonna be helping to educate those folks in government because they don't know this. It's it's not unusual if you understand why they think we're crazy. Because here, they've been through their whole life. They're professionals. And and they've never they they they never even imagined this. I had an attorney that I was staying in the same house with for about a month down in Buenos Aires.
He was from Indiana or something. He'd been a, assistant CEO of a corporation or whatever, and he wanted to make some money. So he went to law school and went out into personal injury law. And, hell, he made $30,000,000 on his first case. And he had gotten freewheeling, and he had been charged with and convicted of failure to file. And they stripped him of his bar license, but he'd made millions of dollars. He spent about six months in a country club hotel, and he was just out traveling the world. And he knew about these guys that I knew in Buenos Aires, and he was down there. So well, I gave him I had a few copies of my book, not many, and I gave him one. But, boy, we got into a huge, huge argument about this with him trying to play devil's advocate. He's just saying, if this was real, all of my friends would have told me about it. Well, they don't know either.
We've got to be educators. So, Al, it's not only that you learn all this other stuff, and the more you learn and understand, the freer you are, but you gotta use that to be able to educate others too. Not only people that may want to come do this, but also people that we're coming up against that think we're crazy sovereign citizens and have a third eye on our forehead. So I just wanna tell that story. I don't know if I've ever told it before. I don't remember his name, but boy did we get into a heated argument one night. I've often thought about him. That was years ago.
And and I, well, wonder if you've realized how how bad it was, you know. One of the other guys down there, Jackson, that kinda ran the show, and, he's a big Trump man. But and we try and get in these discussions, and I explain this stuff to him. He go, no, Roger. The country couldn't been in bankruptcy because there's no bankruptcy court to go to. Okay? So anyway, you go, no. No. No, Roger. There's no shadow government. He's always just nega well, after Trump, after they stole the election, I got a hold of him. I said, there are no shadow government. He goes, I don't mess with politics anymore. Yeah. That's right. Get caught. You don't know what you're talking about. Pick up your marbles and go home.
So, anyway, it's interesting. I've run into a lot of that stuff. These people just flat don't know. You know what Jackson told me? One time, we were sitting on his balcony over there by where, Evita Peron is buried, her her grave close to that. And and and he goes, Roger, I'll believe what you're telling me when I read it on the as a headline in the New York Times. Now you wanna talk about somebody that's fooled right there? Woo hoo. That's not So anyway no. It's not. Poor old Jackson. Boy, did I rub his nose in that. I got something for Alma.
Satisfaction. Yes. Merc has got something for Alma. We can get back serious.
[00:59:12] Unknown:
I know. Good morning. Hi. Good morning. The whistler's gonna come on, but I wanted to explain to her, that we it it it does take time to get empowered. It does take time to take to understand what you need to do. And the renewal, if if you go back and listen to the past, maybe 2021 through 2023 on Castbox, there's a few experiences shared where people are sharing their passport card, which is what we should be using. I put the DMV on notice, and I kept, attorney general, in the loop because they are he's he is, responsible for his agents and, secretary of state of DC.
So it is important to understand why to why you should be using a passport card, and I can help you with that. But the driver's license, it it brings you into the loop with a lot of other US, United States, corporation contracts, or they try to. They're gonna presume you're still participating. So it's up to us to rebut that presumption and, let you know, and renotice them when they trespass. And if they do not, agree or they try to still roll on roll over you, you have to, you know, hold their feet to the fire like Roger has always said. So it's important to un to be able to, review all the codes and informations. In that way, you will see that they are for their residents and their US citizens, and it's up to us to rebut that.
And they do leave you alone. I don't have my I don't drive with a driver's license. But there are, you know, other options you can use to Hey. Travel. You know?
[01:01:22] Unknown:
And then there's another there's another aspect wrinkle to this too. If you're using your passport card, it depends on what type of, of cop is stopping you. Because if you're giving the card, some of those police departments don't have the ability to tap into that national database where they can get the information that's attached there. So that's another element, it appears. So, Alma, don't be headstrong. You're not gonna roam one built in a day. Be take one baby step in front of another, and let's grow you into your self empowerment. Okay?
[01:02:05] Unknown:
So I Roger, the main thing is to protect her children.
[01:02:09] Unknown:
I understand. I wouldn't worry about well, that's even more a necessity to probably stay with the driver's license. She's gonna have her children in her car. You wanna drive carefully when the children are in the car with you, don't you? So be self responsible. Everything will work out. Don't get anxious about anything. They can't take your national status away.
[01:02:30] Unknown:
K?
[01:02:33] Unknown:
Boy, poor Alma. She's getting thrown so much stuff. We're throwing so much stuff at her. So just, you you you can learn. Just go slowly. K? Now you may be super smart and gonna learn overnight, but you still have to grow into it, and it just takes a little time. That's one of our biggest problems, Alma, is that you're changing people's worldview in life, turning it back right side up. And when you do that for somebody, they just don't get used to it immediately. You you you grow into it. Believe me. It's a process. So keep hanging around.
Keep asking questions. Keep absorbing the things that we talk about and that you expose yourself to, and you'll get there. Alright? I can tell you're very determined. If you're determined, you'll get there because we're gonna make sure you do. Okay?
[01:03:34] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[01:03:36] Unknown:
Alright. Yes. Who was the Hey, Roger, Gary? Was that you?
[01:03:40] Unknown:
It's Jack in Colorado.
[01:03:42] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Jack. You're one of our Saturday guys. This is one of our new gals, Alma, naturalized Mexicans, live in Jersey, been here twenty, twenty five years. She's got a family and a cousin with family and all that, and she's relatively new. Jack's been around a while. Yeah.
[01:04:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I listen every day, Roger. So, for a couple two, three years now. I have a question. Did we ever find out what happened with Bruce when he was gonna go arrest the cop that gave him a ticket?
[01:04:13] Unknown:
I haven't heard from Bruce back yet. Since then, I no. He had he hadn't done it when I asked him about it on Tuesday. That's a pretty bold move. That's a pretty bold move. I'm a tell I wouldn't I wouldn't do that.
[01:04:29] Unknown:
I wouldn't either, but I was wondering what happened. So if he's on, I'd love to hear about it.
[01:04:34] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, we'll bring it up again next week, Jack.
[01:04:40] Unknown:
Or even the idea of it too. That's a good idea too.
[01:04:45] Unknown:
Sure. I I would like to hear Bruce's idea of what what he's planning on doing and how to try. Arrest the try and arrest the citizen's arrest of the officer that's giving him all that crap. So I don't advise pressing the envelope like that. If you got a bunch of testosterone and full of piss and vinegar, you go do it. K? Now, Jack, you had something else to ask?
[01:05:09] Unknown:
No. That's it. I was just thinking about that. I I thought that that would be a pretty entertaining story to hear how that ended up, but that's all I have for now.
[01:05:16] Unknown:
Okay. I have a feeling that was a little a little boastfulness, and it didn't get carried out. But the reason he might not be here is he may be in jail. Who knows? So who else has got something for Alma? For America? Ray, how you doing?
[01:05:35] Unknown:
Who you calling to? Hello? You.
[01:05:38] Unknown:
Hello? Athena? Are we all on the same bandwidth here? Hello. This is Roger. Who are you? I'm I go by Ray also, but my name is Rachel. I have some questions. Rachel, you were on the other day. Yeah. You're from Northern Arizona. You were on the other day.
[01:05:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That's me.
[01:06:01] Unknown:
Okay. Good deal. Glad you came back. How are you doing?
[01:06:05] Unknown:
I'm doing great. Doing great. We're actually getting some precipitation lately here, so that's good. That's always nice. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're high desert. You know? Uh-huh. And Great. It's a great and
[01:06:19] Unknown:
it's a wonderful high desert. I lived in high desert in Argentina. It's very there's a lot of very desirable things about it.
[01:06:28] Unknown:
Very much so, especially because we have very pure water here. We have the Coconino. And, my well just happened to only be a 100 the water was only a 140, feet down, and they went to one seventy five. And it's very pure.
[01:06:46] Unknown:
It's like Oh, good for you. Sounds like you should be in a good spot, Raech. Hi, Jen. Very grateful. Oh, well, we Well, you found a good spot here. So let's see if we can nerd in here a little bit. What are your questions? Hey, Roger. One second. Very interesting. Well, up up up. Hold on. Paul's Hold on one second. Injection.
[01:07:07] Unknown:
Well, hold on one second, Rachel. We're we'll take care of you first, but there was another guy that jumped in there, was trying to get Roger's attention. Can we get your name, please, so we can call on you when we get Rachel Dinger?
[01:07:21] Unknown:
Well, it was Danny. Danny.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
Danny. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Danny on the Don't forget, we gotta circle back to Danny when we're done with Rachel. Okay. I who could forget? Are you sure
[01:07:32] Unknown:
you wanna take me first? I'm okay with No. Rachel, we have a rule around here that
[01:07:38] Unknown:
ladies go first. So we're trying to, follow that because if my mother was still alive and I didn't do it, she'd be very, very mad with me. So, I we will address your questions. And two, because Danny's been around for a while. You're new. So let's, see what we can do for you first here.
[01:07:57] Unknown:
Thank you. I appreciate that. I haven't dealt with my trust in a while. This was part of that trust. And I I wanted to make a comment because Brent and I had a very interesting conversation about anarchism, and I am a self professed anarchist now. Only we now go by the term agorist, which is important to us because it's a it's a for for the more modern anarchists, it simply means being able to trade in the open air freely. So so it's important these guys don't like they will, a lot of them, like g Edward Griffin, Eric Burrows, Mark, what's his name, Mark Passio.
There's a lot of them, and they're really wonderful. And they have some really good stuff, and they've been at this for a while as well. But I think they they lean more toward the, you know, the sovereign citizen thing. And I'm just curious once I approach them with this information, I'm curious to see, you know, if if they're aware of that. Are you familiar with g Edward Griffin?
[01:09:18] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[01:09:19] Unknown:
Oh my goodness. He's been around for a long time. A creature from Bethel Island.
[01:09:25] Unknown:
He has. I could tell you a story. This information, it just surfaced, was put right under his face, and he turned his nose up at it and said, so what? So go ahead. Oh, wow. Okay. Very interesting. Well, see, you can't see this on the generally, when you're looking on the surface, you can't see this. It's very deep. K? You you could see some of the inconsistencies and stuff, and that's what we try, of course, and focus on to show you that there as Anne Rand said, there's no there are no such things as coincidences.
[01:10:00] Unknown:
Right. And, I have a local group that I'm involved with that I would like to, you know, get this information
[01:10:08] Unknown:
to. Well, all I've learned to able to do with it, you can't force people into this. It'll never work. Doesn't make any difference. Some people see it. Some people don't. There's some kind of a differentiation in people that it does oh, hell. I resonate with are we still on? Yes. I'm here. Okay. My electricity my electricity just went off. It's third time twice last night.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
I have my own electricity. I produce my own electrical.
[01:10:39] Unknown:
Well, anyway, let's see. Back to where I was going. All you can do is put this in front of people and see if it resonates with them. And if not, you can see. I'm
[01:10:49] Unknown:
gonna I'm gonna try on a more local level.
[01:10:53] Unknown:
Okay. I I've done it on local, national, international, all that, all these levels for many years. I'm telling you what I've learned is that most people are scared. It doesn't resonate with them. They don't believe it, whatever. And it's only a small percentage of people that this will resonate with that want to ask questions and lead further. Now with all those others, you're planting seeds. So it's not like that that they may something will happen and they'll germinate later and they'll come back and, hey. Remember that when you were asking me? But there's a lot of techniques of using this to talk to people. If you can get them to sit down and watch one of those interviews like the one with badass uncle Sam or something, that that that will that will work. If they will listen, you you just I wish everybody resonated to it.
[01:11:47] Unknown:
Rachel, I would have thought this information
[01:11:50] Unknown:
would I was shot. I'm like, fifteen years ago, first time I got on Joyce Riley's big morning show with this information, I would have thought that, it would have gone through the populace like shit through a goose, and we turned the country around immediately. Man, was I wrong.
[01:12:10] Unknown:
K? So crazy. But, I have a I have a as I told Brent, I have a background in marketing and business management. Uh-huh. You know, there's a I have connections, and I'm gonna see what happens with that. I really am, Wow. Encouraged by it. And I'm but I'm gonna peruse more of the information and kind of get some of the information more, you know, so that when I'm talking to them about it, I know what I'm talking about, and they get that I'm confident.
[01:12:44] Unknown:
You've been around here a couple of days. This is a process. Now the event was when you and Will, I believe has turned you on to this and and, you you you learned about it. The rest of the time that you will be involved with it, it's a process. And all you're gonna do is continue to grow and understand. And and you're you've turned what we've done for you is turned your life right side up. You've lived upside down your whole life not knowing it. Now we've turned you a 180 degrees the other direction, and you're just not gonna acclimate to it immediately.
[01:13:22] Unknown:
Well, I was fortunate that I had a family that was more freedom minded, and my uncle in particular was a a conspiracy researcher from way back, and his best friend was Ralph Epperson. The I'm sorry. Yeah. I spoke with him. I spoke with Ralph years ago. Have you? Yeah. He's a good guy.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
Yeah. He's big on free I think I spoke to him about Freemason stuff.
[01:13:48] Unknown:
Absolutely. Yeah. He'll he'll tell you all about that. And he and he goes into the history of the Vietnam War and drugs in The US and also, Billy the Kid, this, you know, the true history of Billy the Kid and the Masonic orders. Anyway, very fascinating. So the thing is I'm not new to any of this, and I've been wanting to get out. And, obviously, I I have because I've moved in this direction, but I have this issue. Once I and I divorced in 2018, and I was with this man for thirty three years who became a big time enabler. I have five sons. I homeschooled for ten years. I was, you know, kind of homesteading half one foot in and one foot out. So I'm no stranger to this the thought of being self sufficient and, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a homeopathic and holistic, unlicensed.
I don't need a license. God gave me that gift, so I don't need a license to practice that. And so I'm, oh, sorry. Hold on a second. My husband's looking for the keys to the car. Here you go, honey. Goodbye. So, I was, sort of homesteading. I've always had a garden. I had chickens. I had a goat. You know? So I've I've been in this mindset for a long time, and I've been looking for ways out. I when I divorced, I had an annuity that I I traded him the house for this annuity. Then I went ahead and, to in an effort to get out of that system because I didn't feel good about them managing my money. And it was a good annuity too. It's just that it went against the grain of what I had always wanted to accomplish, which was I always wanted a homestead.
I've always wanted to be all the way out. So I rolled that over into the best that I could do at the time because I didn't know any better. And I researched and I thought, well, how can I get my money out of this annuity without incurring a huge tax debt? And that was to roll it over into a solo four zero one k and create, like, a business. I'm a sole proprietorship, and I'm created in LLC, a Wyoming LLC. And so now it's kind of and this property is supposed to be a a, what do you call it? It's it's an income property. It's supposed to be an income property. You can legally
[01:16:48] Unknown:
do that. Is is the question you're leading up to having to do with this property in a trust?
[01:16:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:16:57] Unknown:
How will that jive with? And I know Brent is gonna be helping me. I'm already enrolled in his course. So Okay. Well next one. Yeah. I'm I this is I would never give you even suggestions on this because it has to do with your wealth and my ignorance on this subject. I want you to talk to them. Now they're and and let them give you some really good professional advice. Okay?
[01:17:23] Unknown:
I'm just curious if anybody else done this. Has there been any other people in the group that Bunch of people have done trusts. They're all different. All the circumstances
[01:17:33] Unknown:
are different, so you can't automatically say yes to this and compare it. Sure. That's why I say you're gonna have to talk to Brent, and and that's a a conversation about your personal wealth and those things I assume you'd like to keep private and him and his professional, advice and that relationship between you two. So if you got any questions on the process here or any of these things that are affecting you and not this situation with some trust and property, k? Then I I think we can answer them and address them. So do you have any of those?
[01:18:10] Unknown:
On, well, you know, it all I thought that, I appreciated Alma's input there and everybody else. And I would love to, watch Joe's information. You said that he's on, he's on,
[01:18:29] Unknown:
rumblerumble..com. Rumble.comfront/joelustica, l u s t I c a. And I think he's got a number of videos over there. He's real good at this. You talk about somebody that just has a natural knack for all of this kind of stuff. Your boy is him. Mhmm. He is just a bulldog, so god bless him. Yeah. I I would I feel very comfortable steering anyone in Joe Lusticka's direction.
[01:19:02] Unknown:
I would love to find the gentleman. I don't know if you guys have recently seen that video of that young man that was in his car, and he gets pulled over by a cop. And, man, he just and by the end of that conversation that, he he had won the cop over. The cop was like, hey. Can I Yeah? Get your information? And he goes, I'm gonna hold you to a man of evil that you're a man of evil word. And he ended up giving the cop his card.
[01:19:32] Unknown:
Very, very interesting. Well, people are so you know, things things have gotten so bad and a lot out front to people that they're starting to have open minds and ask questions and want to know about these things. That's the difference is you gotta have somebody that wants to know about this. And the reason is because if you're gonna be free, you gotta learn the information. If you don't wanna be free, you're not gonna spend the time and effort to learn and then bring the information and make it yours. And if you don't do that, you're not free. So that's why you can't go chase people with this stuff. It doesn't work. It's not a pain amount of pridefulness
[01:20:12] Unknown:
and arrogance too that you're trying to overcome. You know, it's unbelievable.
[01:20:17] Unknown:
Well, what did Mark Twain say? It's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled. Exactly what you just said. Pride. That's the truth. Ego. Pridefulness and arrogance. Okay. So listen. Let me if you don't have a specific question, then,
[01:20:32] Unknown:
with what we do here, and I'm gonna say nice to speak with you again. Glad you're on board. Just stick around. Wait. I I do have one other question. My question, of course, would be Yes, ma'am. Do I need to before I start this process, which I I want to start it immediately, But before I start this process, do I need to get with Brent first
[01:20:55] Unknown:
about all this other stuff? Because I don't know how that's gonna affect my trust in four zero one k. No. You can always alter that to streamline with what you wanna be. But if you wanna be free, you gotta go to this first.
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. Alright. So just Okay. Just go by the directions on the website and just start the process.
[01:21:21] Unknown:
The trust the trust course, you mean?
[01:21:25] Unknown:
The trust course, I'm gonna take anyway, but, no, I'm talking about the documentation.
[01:21:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, well Yeah. Get an affidavit, get it notarized, and learn what you're doing, understand what you're doing. It's not just follow I want people to know why all of this works. And and I know there's a lot of stuff here. It's overwhelming. You're new. But, yeah, it's first thing you do is make up your mind you wanna do it. Then you go through it, and that means going and getting a sample affidavit. You go on and getting it one or 10 or however many copies you want original. Go get them notarized. You can do it as a declaration, and it'll work.
And you can also, if you don't wanna do a notary, you can use two witnesses for each one, and that is counts as notarized. So all all those little things, and then you send it to the secretary of state of The United States. And and, then you can go ahead and fulfill. There's a whole protocol of what we do here, on how to roll this out. And it just take it slow. K? Okay. You're gonna have to unlearn if you've been around this that this stuff that long, you're gonna have to unlearn some stuff along the way too. I just don't know what yet. Alright? But you're you're headed in the right direction.
K. Sounds good. Alright? Okay, girl. Alright. Good to talk to you again. Paul, did you have something to say to Rach there?
[01:23:00] Unknown:
Yeah. You can go to the download section on the matrix docs and the instruction how to file a national affidavit is right there. Right. Read through that. I got it. And then, that should be that should be it. And if you want an example, go to notice.paulbiener.com, paulbiener.com. Notice.paulbiehner.com. That's my three page, notification package. Starts with a cover letter for all agencies and has a copy of my affidavit and a fee schedule. And that's up here on the Internet. Ready for Is there a link on your website to this No. There is. As well? No. You have to type it in you have to type it into the the address bar. Just type notice dot paul beaner, one word, dot com.
[01:24:03] Unknown:
How do you spell your last name? I'm sorry. It was too fast.
[01:24:08] Unknown:
It's just like Wiener with a b.
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Okay. Good.
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There you go. Alright.
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Got And there's also notice.paulbiener.com or dot Yep.
[01:24:20] Unknown:
Anything. Now, Rachel, there's a couple of resources you've got at your disposal. Mirka, who you heard talk a minute ago, has got a Telegram group. If you've got Telegram loaded, you can join her group, and there's over 500 people on there, students. It's national space status space freedom. National status freedom. Three separate words. Marco will get you in, clear you. And then there's a website that Dave and Kaye have put up called nationalstatus.info. Nationalstatus.info. And it's a nice maneuverable website that'll print documents for you and do all that. It's attached to AI, and a lot of people are very impressed with it. So there's two things right there that you can reach out that can help you in this process. Okay?
[01:25:20] Unknown:
Okay. And what about this we the people2.us? What,
[01:25:28] Unknown:
somebody else can do that? I have no idea who that is. Never heard of it. No. Okay.
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Terrific. Okay.
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Alright. Okay. Very good. So That's it. And we're here six days a week, so just feel free to pop in and ask questions.
[01:25:45] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. You you said that a lot of people how many people have done this
[01:25:51] Unknown:
in this group? I would assume I would estimate about 2,000,000 from my efforts.
[01:25:58] Unknown:
Wow. Oh my goodness. That's pretty good, Roger. Well That's that's impressive, actually. Industrious.
[01:26:08] Unknown:
Well, I can I can I tell you why I estimate that? When we were in, Danny, I'll get to you in a minute. When we were in, the school with them, in that six months, there's 1,200 people went through there and filed these affidavits. When they finally excuse me. They came after John and Glenn, my teachers, just to get them off the street. He's all on all kinds of other charges. But this was certainly part of it. And Glenn told me later that the US attorney stood up and opened court in Salt Lake City and said that the IRS had received over 100,000 of these affidavits when only 1,200 people paid to go through the course.
So there's your Patriot community right there. Okay? So I've been doing this. They were teaching it for six months. I've been on the air with it for fifteen years. I guarantee you that it's a minimum of 2,000,000 people off of my efforts and other people that I never even talked to and that kind of stuff. Where they They know they're coming in. They they have they we've had a couple of examples where they were testing some of our folks to see what they knew. Okay? So they're aware of it. Alright. Now I'm gonna go over to did anybody have anything to add on this conversation with the rates here?
I thought I heard somebody say something a minute ago. Comment. Okay. Go ahead. Danny, I hadn't forgot you. Go ahead.
[01:27:51] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Larry. I believe this is Rachel. Is that correct? Yes. Yes. Alright. Yeah. So something she said, just caught my ear, and I just, I learned this in Brent's trust class, and we gotta be very careful about the words we use. She said that she wants to put her property in a trust, and I get what she's saying. If it's not in a trust, it's still your property. But the thing that we need to understand is once that property has been transferred to a trustee, it's no longer your property. You can never refer to it again as my property in a trust, especially if you set it up as as you being the beneficiary. Right. You you get equitable title, and the trustee has legal title.
He owns the property. The trustee owns the property. You'd you'd relinquish ownership of the property, and that that's the proper way to look at it going forward because if you were ever in a deposition and you said, well, I put my property in a trust and I'm the beneficiary, that's that could be very, you know, detrimental to your
[01:29:07] Unknown:
If if it's never it was never my property. This was bought in the LLC in the name of the LLC, and the LLC is owned by the trust.
[01:29:17] Unknown:
Okay. It's okay. I'll just say that in general, though. Just When we get some technical stuff, plea please talk to somebody that knows knows. Okay?
[01:29:26] Unknown:
Sure.
[01:29:27] Unknown:
Brit Brit is here in March. Here. He's correct. Okay. Alright.
[01:29:32] Unknown:
Good enough. Now, Danny, anything else, Larry, or are you finished? You finished. Danny. That's all. That's all. Took us a couple of minutes to get there, Danny, but we're there. Oh, Danny. Danny, did you get PO'd and leave or what? Maybe he nodded off. Danny, wake up. Danny, can you hear us?
[01:30:07] Unknown:
Guess not. Okay. Well, who else is there? Yeah. He's there. He's unmuted, but I don't hear nothing. L Benny. Me. Shane, we're not hearing
[01:30:17] Unknown:
you. That's Shane.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Yes, Roger. Yes, Shane. This is Shane. Welcome aboard, Alma.
[01:30:28] Unknown:
We just had to state that Roger, I think you can hear me now. Yeah. I'm coming through. Alright, Shane. Hold on. We'll get back to you in a minute. Danny woke up. Yay, Danny. Voice is a trying day today here.
[01:30:46] Unknown:
Danny, you cut out again.
[01:30:48] Unknown:
Hello?
[01:30:49] Unknown:
There you are. Danny, we hear you.
[01:30:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not hearing y'all.
[01:30:55] Unknown:
Okay. Uh-oh. If you if you're on a Bluetooth, get rid of it. Hang it up. Get rid of the Bluetooth.
[01:31:00] Unknown:
Get rid of the Bluetooth, Danny. No Bluetooth.
[01:31:06] Unknown:
Thanks. It's no bueno.
[01:31:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I can just hold on, Shane.
[01:31:12] Unknown:
No freaking good.
[01:31:16] Unknown:
Danny, Danny, Danny.
[01:31:20] Unknown:
Alright. Let's go to Shane. Danny can sort out you, Shane. What he's got going on. You want to Hello? From Alma. Hello? Oh, you hear me now? Yes. Where are you now? Yes.
[01:31:32] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. Danny.
[01:31:35] Unknown:
Yeah. While you're doing traffic, things a while ago, and I'll bring up my I'll bring up my point because, people talk about the driver's license mostly because that's what you have problems with. But the real problem starts with the licensing of the car for use as a vehicle. Because the legal definition of vehicle, it's a thing used in commerce, transportation. And here's the definition in the Tennessee code and much the same thing in, all the other states that I've checked. It says vehicle and freight motor vehicle means every device in a phone or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway accepting devices moved by human power are used exclusively upon stationary rails.
Now who really understands that? Do you think any of the police understand that? Of course. I've asked them to explain how they came to a conclusion that my car, satisfied the, legal definition of vehicle. And, you know, they they I don't think they're even aware that there is a legal definition. But if you check the codes, they all apply to vehicles, not automobiles in general or pickup trucks in general. It's a very specialized technical definition. It's a classification of things according to how they're used, and the use is, in commerce.
And, if you allow that to go by, well, yeah, you were in commerce if you were in a, either actual use for transporting, something for pay or, you had the license that allowed it to be used for that purpose. There is no obligation to register your car for use as a vehicle if you're not gonna use it that way. If you're not gonna be making any money with it going down the road, well, then that's not you. And, I had to go look in the previous code. The current Tennessee code is called the, Tennessee code annotated. And, previously, it was, the tennis the code of Tennessee 1932.
And there is really clear what the, licensing of, of automobiles was about. Now there's a they had an article as titled privileges taxable and, registration of cars and things under that, is where that that that occurs. And it says in the first section of this, article, it says privileges, the occupations, businesses, and business transactions deemed privileges are to be taxed and not pursued without license and so be such as are declared by this code or by legislative acts which are not not to be deemed repealed by the enactment of this code. So licensing the, car for use as a vehicle is like a business privilege that you buy by paying a tax.
And if it's not that, and the thing to do, I think, is go to the, different bodies, the, city councils, county, the county officials, legislative officials, and point out that the police are not being taught what this means, and they're misapplying it. And put it on them that now that they know what's been happening, they have a duty to, to, take care of it, to see to it that their all their law enforcement know how to use the, def legal definition of vehicle in order to apply it properly. And if they refuse to do that, now you can sue them for intentionally not training their their, personnel in this.
[01:35:54] Unknown:
And, Alma, this is what I said about us needing to be educators. But these these people, the local authorities, they just maybe a small percentage understand, but not many. Hey, Danny.
[01:36:10] Unknown:
Hello? Yes?
[01:36:12] Unknown:
Yes? Okay. Yeah. This is Bob.
[01:36:15] Unknown:
Okay. Hey. In a minute, Shane. Go ahead, Bob.
[01:36:19] Unknown:
You've been listening long enough. I'm sure you remember Tom Schramm's example of if he was going and getting gizzard shad and selling them at the local bait store that his car was being used in commerce. Do you remember that from eight or ten years ago?
[01:36:33] Unknown:
I don't know if he was around back then.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Well, here's the thing. At least in Florida and under the uniform code, I'm guessing everywhere, that's not true. If you don't specifically bill for that activity, I e the transportation of the gizzard shed, it is not commercial.
[01:36:54] Unknown:
Oh, you guys have an invoice and a payment and everything. Okay.
[01:36:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I was I was delving into the code here a month ago, and I got into that deal with the taillight or the tag light. And exactly what you're saying, Danny, and you're a 100% correct. Vehicle is a commercial term. And, in in in going through all the minutiae of the vehicle and all the commercial thing, it came to light that if you had a truck transporting goods, but you weren't billing for the transport, it was just accessory to get the product to market, you could claim it was not commercially used. Even though it was being used to further the commercial activity, it wasn't being billed for that particular purpose. I thought that was interesting.
I yield.
[01:37:45] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Bob. And that's interesting. All those SRAM's examples were still illustrated, but he just didn't have the technical part of it correct. Thank you. Now, Shane.
[01:37:59] Unknown:
Yes, Roger. I would just like to welcome, Alma to, the club. And, also, I'd like to say that in order to, get a license or permission to do something which is otherwise illegal is to get, in not not insurance, but by a a bond. $25 $2,500, bond in, like, your insurance agencies. That's a form of, collateral, and you can use that as a, insurance. And, yes, the state has your, ID. Like, here in California, it's California ID. There would be New Jersey ID. So, yeah, it is stuff that you shoot over, and, I'm over. I'm done.
[01:39:01] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Shane. Let's see who else have we got this morning here. How much time? Aya, Caramba. We got over to somebody. Okay. Somebody else got something to add. How do you Roger. Just had to reboot my computer from that electrical outage, and it boots up and the mouse and the pointer in there. Anything you can do, Paul, for that?
[01:39:27] Unknown:
I don't know why. Think of right off the bat? The pointer's not there?
[01:39:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's weird. Alright. Go ahead, Larry. It's just one goddamn
[01:39:36] Unknown:
You can try unplugging What? Try unplugging the mouse and plug it back in again.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Alright. Let's see. Anyway, it came back. I just did the control, alt, delete, and it came back. Okay, Larry. Yes, sir?
[01:39:51] Unknown:
So so I think there's something a lot of students aren't, considering when they're attempting to drive without a license, and that is, most states require you to have a license in order to get insurance. And, and the thing is, if you even let it expire, like, you know, just to have it as a form of ID, most insurance companies are smart enough because they don't wanna have to pay out claims. They're smart enough that in their policy, they have it written that they reserve their right to deny a claim if it's found out that a license was expired, suspended, or the person was driving without a license.
So, you know, that's something you need to consider and consider wisely because, you know, if if you damage someone's property and, you know, and there's hospital bills involved or even a death, you know, and it and you had some semblance of fault in the situation, I mean, they could come and take your property, your home, you know, so something to consider.
[01:41:05] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. Boy, I'm glad I don't have to have a car. Yes. Yes. Who's that? Azan? Samuel. Oh, yeah. Okay, Samuel.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, in in the core documents along with the affidavits, I mentioned the declaration of independence. Well, that's from Lee Bros USA, the house, the the republic, the house that nobody lives in. And that really gets into the detail of being public and private. And that notice that he recommends is called the declaration of independence. In one paragraph, it denounces all of these documents, these adhesion contracts that we have gotten into. It says, any and all past and present political ties implied by separate by operation of law or otherwise or otherwise in trust with the democracy is hereby dissolved.
So all those detailed things that we may not even know about that we entered into by that statement and then publish again in the paper of record puts you outside of your and a good notice for all your local authorities in and you get a certified, report from the paper saying that this was published according to state statute for the period of time that it was supposed to be posted.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Don't doesn't your affidavit take care of all that? All those things are based on fraud because you were, fraudulently
[01:42:49] Unknown:
used. And your system is the reinforcement,
[01:42:51] Unknown:
Roger, locally. Okay. Well, if somebody wants to okay. If somebody wants to do it, go do it. K?
[01:42:59] Unknown:
And then that that gets you put in the stack with the affidavits and the the the land patent, the elodium, you know, and it's sent to the AG. Listen, guy. This is this is who I am, and please respect me. And, you know, don't try to contact me outside of the rule book here. And if you have a problem with it, please answer me within a certain period of time. Otherwise, I I'm gonna find you an agreement with me. Right? So you're so. You're you're re you're arming yourself to be that droid they don't want to touch.
[01:43:46] Unknown:
K.
[01:43:48] Unknown:
These aren't the Well, the good side is, you know, if the new world orders plans come through, none of you will have a car in a couple of years anyway.
[01:43:59] Unknown:
Exactly. That's really what I'm preparing for is what they're going to do to to confiscate land, to confiscate things like cars, etcetera. It just a preemptive like, okay. You know? I mean, I'm different. I'm just saying I'm different, and I'm and ultimately, all my documents prior to the constitution, I have the lord first, that document second, etcetera.
[01:44:31] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
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50 cows and offenders.
[01:44:36] Unknown:
What is this? Microsoft always wants to screw with you somehow. I hate these people. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Alright. I got a couple of minutes left. What's going on? I assume there's no no need people for Shane. Well, good. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Who Yep. And you are?
[01:45:10] Unknown:
Can you hear me? This is Rachel?
[01:45:13] Unknown:
Yes. It's Rachel. Okay. Cool. Didn't recognize your voice yet. She's got a question for you, Shane.
[01:45:20] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:45:21] Unknown:
Okay. Shane, do you have this documentation somewhere that if people people could and an explanation of it so that if somebody decided to do that, they could easily, you know, peruse your stuff and and copy it for themselves and utilize it.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Never, thought about it like that, but the affidavit is for me and, for my personal capacity. And, no. I I I cannot answer your question. Sorry. I I I have never thought about
[01:46:05] Unknown:
He's about He doesn't have anything. He doesn't have anything like that, Rachel. So I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Thank you. Alright.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
So who else? Sorry. I thought it was a good question anyway. Yeah. You know, Edward, no
[01:46:18] Unknown:
no no harm. No foul. Yep. Who else is wanting to say something there?
[01:46:24] Unknown:
I I hope people, copy what I write what I wrote down, but to each their own. K, Rachel?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
I'm here. Uh-huh.
[01:46:39] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:46:40] Unknown:
So you haven't done that. You're saying that that might be a good idea to do that?
[01:46:48] Unknown:
Yes. If you'd like to, we can talk about this after the show.
[01:46:53] Unknown:
Sure.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
Sure. Why not? K. Thank you. Which is got a few more minutes left, and then, nobody's got anything else dying you want to bring up here today? So, if you don't, can we talk about anything private
[01:47:10] Unknown:
after the show? If anyone wants to talk about anything private at the end of the show, I will turn on the ability to switch rooms. And if you dialed in, dial 31, and that'll put you in Room Number 1. Or 32, that'll put you in Room Number 2. Or if you're, in by the client, you can go into, your, like, little menu thing. I'm not exactly sure how you move from room to room. I think you just open the participant list and click on your three dots next to your name and select move to, and it'll move you to another room. The main room is the only one that's recorded and broadcast.
So wanna talk about something private made off in another room, and you guys will have your own private little corner. Just saying.
[01:48:01] Unknown:
Very interesting. Okay. Thank you for that info.
[01:48:04] Unknown:
You're welcome. Mister mister wizard there. Yeah. Mister wizard. Well, I didn't know if you didn't hear from Dan. Dan in Alaska. Alaska Dan, our new guy, was it John in Idaho we spoke with last week? He's I ain't popped his head up since. It was great to hear from Tom last week to start the show with his, successes. And, so we just you never know weekend to weekend. Of course, this is the Saturday before Thanksgiving. Next week will be abbreviated week, and, we'll probably, just just play a replay, Paul, at least Thursday.
And I can't imagine having a show on Saturday next week with the taking people not be with their family or friends on the holiday. So you think we ought to have a live show next Saturday or not? I don't know. Why don't you noodle on it? Noodle on it. We'll make the decision in a few days. For sure, we won't have one on Thursday, but we will have one on Friday, with, Brent, of course. And we just don't like missing those. And I don't know what the hell I'd do with four days on my hands, quite frankly. So, interesting time of the year. We go into the holidays.
I think didn't somebody say Christmas and New Year's are on Thursday this year? Yeah. We discussed that the other day. Okay, so we'll have the same basic scenario. Thursday off and, we'll roll on. So the, New Year's, we will I don't know if we'll have a show that Saturday or not. As, Ted Kennedy said, we'll drive off that bridge when we get to it. So nobody else has got anything you want to inject here? I know. I'm a poor taste kinda guy at times. That was a Yes, Julie. But not like not like our not like our wallflower, Julie. Yes, Julie. Good morning.
[01:50:14] Unknown:
Good morning. Happy Saturday to everybody. Can you hear me okay?
[01:50:18] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Loud and clear.
[01:50:22] Unknown:
So there's a guy that was on the fourth news. His name is, I think Jordan Maxwell. Are you familiar with him? He's dead now. Yes. I am. Yep. He, his video was playing, like, at the top, and then it just got removed. And, I was just listening to some old speeches that he gave. And, then all of a sudden when I went back, the video had been removed, but I found it on YouTube. I found all the stuff that he said extremely relevant for everything we're going through right now, and thank God we're nationals. Because basically what he said was he said if you hire an attorney
[01:51:13] Unknown:
that you're known as a client by law No. No. And that Don't don't Hey. Jordan Maxwell knows a lot about symbols, but he don't know shit about law, in my opinion. He also gonna tell you you're an admiralty law and all that stuff. He doesn't know this stuff. He's the expert on symbols. I got no quib quibbles with him there, Julie. But a lot of his law stuff, he don't know what the shit he's talking about. Okay?
[01:51:41] Unknown:
Well, it was kind his most of the stuff was, about, the the concept of where the word god came from, and it was mostly about religions. But, he also mentioned the book, the 1984 book where Julian Huxley wrote the foreword. And and the foreword was written so long ago, and it basically said as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase, and the dictator, unless he needs canon father or or families with which to colonialize empty or conquered territories will do well to encourage that freedom in conjunction with the freedom to daydream under the influence of narcotics, radio, television, and the movies, and it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude, which is now their fate.
And so he was just I find it interesting that they were talking about this all the way back then. But his, he talks a lot about words, and you're right, and symbols and stuff, and talks about the divine being and goes back to all of the Greek and the ancient Egyptian religions and stuff like that. So it's very, very interesting Well listening. She wasn't really talking that much about law in here.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
Well, he has at times. Other videos earlier, he has. And he's gonna tell you you're an admiral to law and you're a ship sailing on the land and all that bullshit. K? So, he but he knows a lot about symbols. But let me ask you this. Why didn't he ever pick up or put out or put together that the pyramid was the symbol of feudalism?
[01:53:37] Unknown:
He does that. He did that in this video. Oh, did he? Okay. I never heard him do that or in the sign. Video. He did. He talks about the triangle. He talks about the triangle on top of the pyramid. It was very interesting. It wasn't he only said something that was funny in the beginning, Roger. He basically said if you hire an attorney, you're known as a client by law. Clients are called, wards of the court in regard to the relationship with their attorney, and he said black law black law defines a ward of a court as an infant or a person of unsound mind. Therefore, if you hire an attorney by law, you're an idiot. It was really funny the way he said it. And then he was like, if you had any brains, you wouldn't be in court. Why do you why do you have to go to court? You play tennis on a court with a racket. And he says the whole thing's a racket. I mean, it was just really funny, how he started out his his speech, but it's over two hours long.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Yep. He's a very good guy. He had an uncle who was, in The Vatican when he was young, who would every couple of years come back to The US and sit down and tell him all this stuff. And that's where he got all his Cymbals knowledge or at least the initiation of it. So, yeah, he died
[01:54:48] Unknown:
three, four years ago, I think, if I remember right. Yeah. It was, like, four years ago, I think he died. Yeah. But, anyway, I they're trying to take down his videos. I just found the one today was I thought the one today was just excellent. And again, most of the time he was talking about, people, listening but not hearing and people seeing but not comprehending what's going on. And he was just he's really he's been a theologian, whatever, theologian at with astronomy for so many years. And I just found it very, very interesting to get here from a different a different perspective from somebody else. Yep.
[01:55:27] Unknown:
There there there's an awful lot of people, that have laid down their life in this effort that if you're new, you have no idea of some of the stories. Yes. Who is the guy there?
[01:55:39] Unknown:
With Samuel, I had a question for Julie. I was wondering if, she got the Rick Wilds piece on the Fintranet?
[01:55:49] Unknown:
I think I did, and I didn't haven't had a chance to watch it yet,
[01:55:52] Unknown:
Samuel. I like your opinion when you have a chance. I'm going to watch that. Thank you. It's not a video. It's it's it's script. You have to read it. Okay. Yep. Thank you. You're welcome. Who sent it to you? I couldn't because I didn't have your email.
[01:56:07] Unknown:
I have it. I I download it from, I can't remember which site. So if anybody needs it, I can forward it to them. It's Rick Wiles, if you got the right one. Yep. It's Rick Wiles. Yep. That's the one. Yep. Good good guy, Rick Wiles.
[01:56:23] Unknown:
So who else has got, something to add or ask here at the closing minutes of the Saturday, the twenty second? We hadn't even mentioned it one time. On November 22 Roger.
[01:56:36] Unknown:
I've got something quick. Commemoration
[01:56:39] Unknown:
of the assassination of John f Kennedy.
[01:56:42] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. What's your website again? Something.paulbiener.com?
[01:56:47] Unknown:
Notice.paulbiener.com.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Alright. There were several people. Dave being one of them. Dave? Wouldn't that Dave want to say something?
[01:57:02] Unknown:
That was Larry. Yeah. Ralph. Okay. I I had pulled up a anyway, my phone. Hi, everybody. So for Alma, you know, she said her husband likes to hunt and fish. I would highly recommend, you know, I don't know what what your finances look like, but, you know, if you can get your own hunting property with a pond, you know, and, instead of going out shooting the king's deer and stealing his fish, you know, with a with a license, you, you know, you just have your own property. You take care of your own needs, you know, fishing for fun or food or, you know, gathering, you know, venison for food, you know, learn how to process it yourself. You ain't gotta worry about those, you know, the the king sheriffs and and all of his men trying to steal Humpty Dumpty all over again.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Okay. Good idea. Well, there's you. Alright. Larry, there's the whistler, but go what your question's short on?
[01:58:11] Unknown:
Oh, it's short. So all an attorney is is an agent. We learned that in Brent's first trust class, and that's exactly what it says in in, Black's law. The definition encompasses both private agents authorized by power of attorney, which is an attorney in fact, and those authorized to act in a legal capacity. Its core definition is one who is appointed to act for another in their place.
[01:58:41] Unknown:
In their stead. There you go. More patriot mythology dashed along the edge of the road. Correct. Our, little week's almost over, but not quite, Paul.
[01:58:53] Unknown:
Not yet. Not yet. Before the show ends, don't forget. Don't forget, the matrixstocks.com. The upper left hand corner, there is a link for give sand go forward slash radio ranch support. Think about sending a coffee or something like that. I've come to the realization that I need uninterrupted power sources to keep this stuff from failing. Just like Rogers has one, and it kept him on the air during his power outage. There he is. Also, go to Gibson Go and, look at Rogers Sales Dental Journey. And, check that one out too. Thank you everybody for all your support and contribution. Have
[01:59:36] Unknown:
a great abbreviated weekend. We'll see you on Monday, hopefully. Okay. Ciao. Hey. Rach, you and, Shane can go at it. I'm gonna go, do other things. And unless anybody's got anything pressing for me, I am g o n e. Roger.
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Well, you forgot. I forgot. I have one other question. Okay. It has to do with my passport. I have a current passport. What do you do about that?
[02:00:08] Unknown:
You you have a well, you just do what do you have? A passport or a passport?
[02:00:16] Unknown:
Yes. I have a passport.
[02:00:19] Unknown:
Alright. Then and and how many years has it got left?
[02:00:25] Unknown:
Well, up to twenty twenty seven, I think.
[02:00:28] Unknown:
One moment. Okay. Well, you can do two things. You can go ahead and get a new book and and and but what you're wanting this time is a passport card, particularly. Have you tried do you travel internationally? I have. Mhmm. I would like to continue to Well, if you well, if you have plans to or whatever, you're gonna need the book. So you'll get both. You can just get a renewal, d s 80 2, and pay $30 and get a card right now. And then when your other book expires, you can get another book. K? But it doesn't matter when you're traveling internationally if you're a national or not. That passport card is used for inside The US and our activity. Some people, it's the only ID they carry is that passport card.
K?
[02:01:20] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Very good. Yeah. Well, I cannot find the book. I've lost it somehow. Uh-oh. But I know.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
Well, you better you you need to you need to find that out because they're going to want you to send that book, I think, in with the application to get a passport card. And if you don't have it, then you're gonna have to fill out a form called the lost or stolen form. And even though you've already got a passport, they're gonna make you go back to the D S 11, the first one, and start all over again. So you need to find out if you've lost it or if you've misplaced it.
[02:02:05] Unknown:
I've misplaced it. I just have no idea where I have looked, how I'm looking for it. I moved when I was building this house.
[02:02:13] Unknown:
Right. And every Well Yeah. Now, Rach, there's 8,000,000 stories in the naked city. Alright. If you can't find it, you're gonna have to tell them it's lost or stolen, and then or they won't process just a card. You'll have to go back to D S 11. Okay? So you noodle on that and see where you need to go, but that is nothing to it. It's not complex, but you're gonna have to have that passport that's open or else report it lost or stolen. K? Now there was a guy trying to say something through that whole explanation there.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
It's it's me, Roger. Alma again. Alma. Alma. Yes, Alma. Yeah. Just a quick, comment. As the, the show was progressing, we received our mail, and we just got our kids' passports.
[02:03:06] Unknown:
My son and dad's passport. So You're not interested in buy them books? Did you get books or just cards?
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Books. Books. They got their books. I didn't get cards for them. For because any of us, we got books and cards.
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then this is what I would suggest that you might wanna look into. How old are your children?
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Ricardo, our son, is 15, and Sol, our daughter, she's 10.
[02:03:34] Unknown:
You can go in every state will have ID cards that are just like a driver's license that they issue to Friday. Take an affidavit and go to the driver's license division, and and you you use in the in the process, give them the affidavit for a for an ID, and then they'll be on that'll be in the records in the state of New Jersey as an ID, and they'll have an ID as a national.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:04:09] Unknown:
okay. So I go to the DMV, take the affidavit, and then request an ID. And I give the affidavit,
[02:04:18] Unknown:
so they can issue an ID as an Well, they're gonna ask a bunch of well, they're gonna they're gonna charge you a few dollars, not much. They're gonna ask you questions. Are you a citizen? Are you a resident? Where do you live? And then you're gonna get your picture taken if this is the process still. And then you're gonna have a New Jersey ID for your children, but in the background, it'll be tied to your their affidavit in the records.
[02:04:45] Unknown:
Oh, thank you. That's Yep. That's nice to know that. You could also
[02:04:50] Unknown:
well, and you could also, do the same thing and just go back and and do a renewal with with their passport and just order a passport card, and that'll cost you about $30. So you could do either one. Okay?
[02:05:06] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, one thing that I noticed in their passports, I don't know if this, you know, something, like, that they just updated in their data, but their old passports don't have don't start with the letter. Now these ones, it starts with the letter.
[02:05:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't have any idea on their nomenclature and stuff. Sometimes, you know, they have numbers and series of numbers on the passport card that will, at times, we think, denote a status. O nine is actually American Samoa, but they use it for nationals. We've seen people identified as ambassadors at large. We've seen people, identified as couriers with the nomenclature. So they don't always put national, but those other things would be equivalent to a national. Mhmm. So there's a good few things for you to think about. Alright? Sure. Thank you. You're so welcome, Alma. We're glad to have you.
Okay. Anybody else for me?
[02:06:17] Unknown:
Roger. Hey, Roger. This is Kathy. I'm a first time caller.
[02:06:22] Unknown:
Hey, Kathy. Where you been? Oh, we were looking for you. I'm in Minnesota. We're looking for you during the show. Well, okay. You have what? A question?
[02:06:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got a question. So, I've been a professional driver my entire life until I had a work comp injury, so I haven't driven I haven't been gainfully employed since 2007, but I plan to drive again if in the near future, Everything all the trucks aren't robotic by that time, which they may be. I'm 65 years old. So but I wanted to maintain my commercial driver's license, my class a license. Okay. My driver's license expired on my birthday, 01/08/2025. In December, I went in to get it renewed. I had a name change and an address change. I the address I used was, a postal mailbox at the UPS store. Now it took me a whole year to get all of my documents, bank statements, and everything I needed transferred over to that, postal mailbox address so that I would have all the documents I needed for the name change and the address change. They gave me my paper temporary driver's license, but they would not give me my card, my driver's license card. They sent me a letter saying that I needed to have my resident's address on there, and I've been battling them for ever since then. My temporary paper driver's license has expired, and I'm having really difficulty doing things such as banking.
It's really, really getting to be problematic. I was I'm kinda tired of fighting with them over the driver's license. I was thinking of going directly to getting a passport. What do you think about that idea, and what's the quickest way I can get a passport?
[02:08:38] Unknown:
Well, go to get a passport application, send it in, and and you could expedite it. But my advice is that if you pay extra for that to have a travel plans, Norm, do you want to line to them? Going somewhere. I yeah. I I mean, I I I'm not sure about how to tell you to say to help you, quite frankly. The problem is the state driver's license. First of all, they who who won't accept that you don't have a residence on it?
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Kathy did sent me a letter. The DMV did or whatever. So somebody somebody suggested I go down there in person and ask them to show me the statute or the law that says I must have a residence address.
[02:09:41] Unknown:
Kathy, I'm not sure what to tell you. Also the the
[02:09:46] Unknown:
the requirements for a commercial driver's license changed in, like, February, and I got my, you know, renewal done in in December. So those changes shouldn't have been in effect then. I'm driving right now, so I don't, I don't recall what all the changes are. But
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Comment?
[02:10:11] Unknown:
I I have a I don't Kathy, I don't know how to how to help you. Julie, can you help me?
[02:10:16] Unknown:
I have a post office box address on my driver's license, so I'll try to look up the law. I don't think there is a law that you have to actually have to have a physical, address on your driver's license. I just think they have to have that in their system, but they could've put it be a PO box. I've had a PO box forever.
[02:10:34] Unknown:
They they want it to be a PO box. This is at the U UPS store. So it's a it's a physical address at the UPS.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
They want it especially if you're trying to buy a firearm, Julie. They wanna know where you live. So we had somebody, he wouldn't sell him a firearm because it didn't all he gave him was a passport card, no address on it. So he went next door to the fishing license and bought a fishing license. And on the license, he put his address, and he went back to the gun shop and showed him the fishing license with the address, and they sold it to him.
[02:11:13] Unknown:
The driver's license has so many books and caveats. The commercial driver's license. I tried to get No. Well, the the commercial driver's license is an extension of the, the US DMV or DOT. What they what they want to know is they wanna know that you're a resident of the state, so all the statutes, tax, codes, and bullshit that goes along with that driver's license actually applies to you. And so what they're trying to do is they're trying to establish residency. So, if you want, you can go in and renew your driver's license right now. Go in and renew it. Take your paper driver's license. You can tell them that tell them that I need to renew this license because you refused to send me the plastic license unless I use my physical domicile location.
I do not have an address, the domicile location. And then within three days of getting your your, your renewed license, just send a send send a notice to your state DMV saying that I don't waive any of my rights. I don't agree to any hidden contracts. And if they pulled a license, then, you're not gonna be driving commercially, which I don't think you're gonna wanna be doing anyways because, all the trucks are, satellite and Qualcomm equipped. They have both front facing and rear facing cameras. They're gonna be watching everything you do, and your entire life is going to be rigidly, rigidly managed by the US Department of Transportation and the, FMCSA.
Kathy,
[02:13:04] Unknown:
Kathy doesn't even know what they're asking her when they ask if she's a resident, okay? So this is after the last show of the week. So, Kathy, we're here six days a week, dear. People will stick around here, can help you. But like I said, you don't even understand what they're asking you when they ask are you a resident. K? So
[02:13:27] Unknown:
if you're driving around with
[02:13:29] Unknown:
story. Oh, god. I mean, yeah, you can you can get that information, but you're not gonna get it out of me today. But hang around next week. Come back any day, six days a week. We're almost always here. Next Thursday, of course, no. But we'll school you up on all this. Okay?
[02:13:48] Unknown:
And I'll have you on
[02:13:49] Unknown:
the subject of this.
[02:13:51] Unknown:
Okay. Sounds good. Alright. Thank you. Dave, you're gonna CDL Wait a minute. Dave's gonna school you up a little bit. Fast forward story. Okay. I'm go ahead, Dave.
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Okay. I know a guy in Colorado. He's been a a owner operator for twenty years or so. He naturalized. He got his passport card, and he got in an accident in his truck. It was his fault. He he, state cops showed up. He handed him his passport card, and the cops said, what's this? He said, they told me to use that now. So he takes the card to his car. He comes back. I guess in Colorado, they when you get a ticket, they print it out like a cash register receipt out of some machine or something in his car or something, and it it rolls up. You know? He said he walked up to him. The cop did, and they was standing outside. The cop, his jacket had a top pocket on it, a chest pocket.
The cop rolled up that ticket. He you're supposed to sign a ticket in Colorado. He rolled it up. He shoved it in the guy's top pocket, and then he told them what to do to get out of the ticket. And then after that, he helped him secure, you know, the h bumper behind your trailer? Yes. He that thing was swinging out into traffic, and he helped him resecure that to his truck. It took about twenty five or thirty minutes, and and then he let him go. He didn't call the DOT for an inspection on the side of the road to look for a 100 violations and give him a bunch of tickets for it, he sent him on his way.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
So That was a nice cop. I didn't know there were many left.
[02:15:55] Unknown:
Well, there's a few out there. They're not all rogue. And this this probably happened. He got his, he did the he did his passport back in around 2019, and, that happened not long after he did that. It was probably in 2019 when it happened. And, I haven't spoken with the guy, you know, since then. So I don't know, you know, what's transpired over the time frame, but, that's just one story. Like Roger says, there's 8,000,000 stories in the the naked city. So
[02:16:35] Unknown:
Dave, the he might have been told to be nice.
[02:16:40] Unknown:
Mhmm. Say it again.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
He might have been told to be nice when he looked it up.
[02:16:47] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. When he looked up that, he this man was a national, and he had a do not detain, and he must help him in his travels. So he never this guy had never experienced anything like that in the twenty years he was behind the wheel. You know, you get in a wreck. Oh my god. They got DOT all over your vehicle looking for violations to nail you with. And he didn't I'm sure he had them, but he didn't he didn't look for them. He sent them on his way. Mhmm. I mean, it's a rare story that don't happen to everybody, but I you I'm pretty sure it was that that passport card being a national was what made all that transpire, and I yield.
[02:17:33] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:17:37] Unknown:
He's gone.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Roger's gone?
[02:17:45] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:17:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Because, who is the student asking about, getting a license renewed? Who is this?
[02:17:54] Unknown:
Kathy in Minnesota.
[02:17:56] Unknown:
Are you wanting to renew your CDL?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Well, I wanted to.
[02:18:02] Unknown:
Yes. That's what I did when I Yeah. So you you can't university. You you can't use, Julie's idea of a PO box with a CDL. You have to have a physical street address, and you must provide two proofs of residence. And that's because the state's Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requires a physical address for the CDO, and it must be verifiable with documents like a rental agreement, your if you have a utility bill or voter registration card, etcetera. So, yeah, that that I know because on the That's the problem. All my
[02:18:44] Unknown:
paperwork has my UPS store address. I would have to get all my paperwork changed. I'd have to have my bank. I'm not gonna change all my paperwork.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
Well, then you you could get a regular license, but you you may be able to get another I can't say for sure. You may be able to get a regular license, but you certainly won't be able to get a a CDL. I know that as a fact because one time I moved and you got so many weeks to
[02:19:16] Unknown:
report. This was going way back when. Why did they give me the paper temporary one then? That's my issue. They gave me the paper temporary one.
[02:19:27] Unknown:
They gave you a temporary commercial driver's license?
[02:19:30] Unknown:
Yes. I have the paper one, but then they wouldn't send me the card. Well well, they may have not
[02:19:36] Unknown:
when it's expired. They may they may have been going on old information and just issued that out of a courtesy without really investigating the fact, but you definitely gotta have a physical address on a commercial driver's license. I know that as a fact. So Well, I You know? And if you ever move, you have to report it within a certain period of time.
[02:19:58] Unknown:
The UPS store is a physical address, though.
[02:20:02] Unknown:
No. Hey, Kelsey. No. I'm a see, I'm a CDL holder. I've been driving for for about twenty seven years, and, I mean, I know what I'm talking about. Is that all? And, anyway not. But but at any rate If you you have to have your home address on that CDL.
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Over here in Nevada, a friend of mine, he's deceased now. He had a UPS store address, and he had a CDL b with a p endorsement, and they were fine with it. And I think the UPS store does serve as a physical address.
[02:20:42] Unknown:
They can't tell. There's a big difference between a a b and an a, Brent.
[02:20:49] Unknown:
Well, whatever. But I think that'll work. Have you used the Minnesota address before, or how long have you had the right long in
[02:21:04] Unknown:
for about fifty years.
[02:21:07] Unknown:
Okay. Well, why isn't it working now? They're
[02:21:13] Unknown:
They're starting I don't know because I had a name change and an address change. I used to be in the safe at home address confidentiality program, and I'm no longer in that. And then I had a name change, so I had to have documents from this column and documents from that column. I had to have all these documents. And, I had all the documents, and now they say that address I can't use that address.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
So I I kind of Do you have any do you have any friends with a house
[02:21:45] Unknown:
that you can use their address? Know, but then I'm gonna have to get all of my documents changed over to my friend's address.
[02:21:53] Unknown:
Kathy, can I ask you? What do you haul? Do you are you an owner owner operator, or do you work for somebody else?
[02:22:01] Unknown:
I'm currently not driving because I'm disabled, but I plan to go back to driving.
[02:22:07] Unknown:
And and what do you wanna haul? Because I I got a buddy in South Dakota. He he he drives a semi for a an owner. Right? This guy owns a farm, and he hauls hay, and he hauls that guy's own stuff, and he don't need a CDL.
[02:22:30] Unknown:
No.
[02:22:31] Unknown:
You know, if you work for the owner of the of the of the truck and you haul his goods, you don't need a CDL.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Well, I used to work for the City of Minneapolis Public Works department for twenty some years. That's where I had my work in the county. Yeah. You need one for that.
[02:22:53] Unknown:
Yeah. What I've what I've what I've been doing when they insist on a, physical, and I call it a location because an address is a commercial term, I give them my meets and bounds. Certified recorded document from the county that says exactly where I am according to survey. That's a real location. That's not a phony address. They're all phony.
[02:23:23] Unknown:
I would give them the meets and bounds of the UPS store then?
[02:23:28] Unknown:
Oh, no. I would be giving them the meets and bounds if they're refusing that address because I would use that first so. Of my my land.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
Well, I don't want the pigs on my property at all. Both my mother and my husband were put into fraudulent guardianships where they were both murdered. I got a real aversion to having pigs on my property. I don't want them anywhere around that property. I get that. I don't wanna give them my anything to do if they've been chomping at the bit to find out my address since I got out of the safe at home program. And Okay. You got I'm not gonna play their game. I'll give up my my CDL before I'll list anything where I physically am
[02:24:23] Unknown:
Can you speak right into the microphone?
[02:24:27] Unknown:
Clean up. Sure. Am I And that's the beauty
[02:24:30] Unknown:
and that's the beauty of the passport card. It doesn't have an address on it. Oh, hey.
[02:24:38] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
And now we got we got pulled over in our, you know, our automobile. My wife did, and she handed this it was the state cop in Michigan. She handed him her passport card, and he said, you know, what's this? Why, you know, what is this? And she said, well, that's my ID. That's what I use. He said, why? And she said, because it doesn't show my location. And he said, that's smart. And he we had a center light out, you know, brake light in the back, and he let us go.
[02:25:21] Unknown:
K. I like I said, I think that's the route I'm gonna go. Thank you, guys.
[02:25:36] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome. I
[02:25:37] Unknown:
yield.
[02:25:40] Unknown:
Now someone had a question for me, Shane. I got my pen and paper out ready.
[02:26:07] Unknown:
I think that was Rachel wanting to ask you, Jane. Rachel.
[02:26:11] Unknown:
I'm here. Alright. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And we all know the pen is mightier than the sword.
[02:26:19] Unknown:
It does. Thank you.
[02:26:22] Unknown:
May I, before Rachel and Shane
[02:26:27] Unknown:
Sure.
[02:26:28] Unknown:
Exchange information. I just want everybody to know that I changed my mailing address, you know, to the carrier route and, point of delivery as Joe Lustica suggested. And I got my first registered mail and that was no problem. But then I got a notice from the postmaster and he informed me that I needed to use my 911 emergency address. And so I found that quite notable and interesting that your address is under the 911 system. Has anybody else encountered that, known about it? And now that Samuel has said that you used your meets and bounds, I'm not I'm not sure I wanna do that but it seems like an option to rebut what he has said.
And I think, receiving mail already at that rural route number that that's prima facie evidence. They know. So, anyway, any thoughts in that regard would be much appreciated. I yield.
[02:28:03] Unknown:
Yes. I believe that the meeting bounds are for the census. The census is pretty much like they do all kinds of documentation on you, you as the, person for them to make them money. So we need some balance, within the census. There's, disidentification. How much to tax you? How much to get money from you? Where your water's coming from? What are you all this stuff?
[02:28:53] Unknown:
I'm out.
[02:28:55] Unknown:
Sherry, did you say you did a nondomestic post office mail stop with your rural route?
[02:29:07] Unknown:
Well, they don't have, blocks on the change of address for all of that. I just did the rural route number, which is your carrier route number, and then, the point of delivery being the box number.
[02:29:27] Unknown:
We changed our address from an address to a rural route, nondomestic post office mail stop. It's right in the postal regulations right out of their book. And Oh, okay. They haven't walked at it.
[02:29:47] Unknown:
Okay. So, Dave, how how did you, insert all that onto the change of address form?
[02:29:55] Unknown:
I don't know. I just know we did it.
[02:30:00] Unknown:
Would Pam know? Because I just put R R and,
[02:30:08] Unknown:
I can barely hear you.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sorry. You know, my cell phone will not allow me to hear the call anymore.
[02:30:17] Unknown:
I can call in, but I can't hear anything. Uh-huh. Wow. You need to get a TracFone. Get a TracFone. They're $20. $20 a month, unlimited calling, texting. And if you want Internet, you get four gigs for $20. If you want more, you get you know, each $10 increment, you get more gigs of data.
[02:30:41] Unknown:
Well, thank you for that. And it works.
[02:30:43] Unknown:
And I live out in the country, and, yeah, it it works perfectly everywhere on my property, in my basement, anywhere.
[02:30:53] Unknown:
What I do for my UPS type location is, I use in care of nondomestic, but then the rest of the address is pretty much standard fare except, punctuation and brackets on things.
[02:31:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Look up nondomestic post office mail stop, and that's what everybody should do at their homes or their houses. Non domestic post office mail stop.
[02:31:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't use anything for that address ever. I keep it at that post office so that it's off the land.
[02:31:45] Unknown:
You're you're, not really understandable there, Samuel.
[02:31:51] Unknown:
I could hear him clearly.
[02:31:53] Unknown:
Can you? Uh-huh.
[02:31:55] Unknown:
So it's nondomestic post office mail stop. Is that what you said, Dave? And look up the regulations regarding that.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Yes. Nondomestic post office mail stop.
[02:32:11] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you very kindly. You know what was brought to my mind when rural free delivery? You know, there used to be a shift. RSD. Mayberry RSD. Yep. So and it hasn't went away, So it has to be there. But, It's still there. Correct. And so what you're saying here is is the same thing as RFD, rule free delivery. They still have to deliver it. Okay.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
My thinking that. My thinking about it is when you put in care of nondomestic, what you're saying is you're not routing it through the federal government's post office. Correct.
[02:33:01] Unknown:
Correct. We don't use a we don't use a ZIP code.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
I put mine in parentheses. I put my suite number in parentheses because it's the same stuff. And then the rest is punctuation that these things are separated by colons and semicolons to show that they're all by themselves and not one thing. That's the way team law does it. That's where I got a lot of that from. The the the newest thing I added though to The United States Of America is to your lowercase u in square brackets because that donates the articles confederation and the original constitution used it that way. That wasn't changed until our buddy, Lincoln.
[02:33:57] Unknown:
My wife said that Joe Lustica has a training on the nondomestic post office mail stop on his Rumble channel. I yield.
[02:34:17] Unknown:
And for commercial drivers, I think you can apply the doctrine of necessity there as well. It's a necessity that you drive, but you're not waiving your rights as a state national or a state citizen. I think that gives you if you tell them that and they don't refute it or you do what Terry Lee did, and he went down to the his DMV, I think, is in Washington state. And he, he asked them to put a Christian name on his driver's license and maybe a few other things. And when they refused, he had cause to say, okay. Understand.
Just give me a certified letter that you refused to change these things, and then he uses that if he ends up in a quarter that he he did not want a license. He wanted to be recognized as a Christian. So that's that's the long way around. I think if you use a doctrine of necessity, and you word that properly, you can you're making a claim that, okay, I'm doing this because I have to survive. That's that's a necessity for sure. And then you tell them that you're not waiving your rights according to your affidavit as that state citizen.
[02:35:53] Unknown:
What about travel, license?
[02:35:58] Unknown:
We're traveling. We're not we're not You can make that in your statement in your doctrine, Bruce. You can just tell them that you're not a resident, which would would give you that license anyways. You're a traveler, but in in the commercial sense, you are a driver. But so you have to word it appropriately. Right?
[02:36:20] Unknown:
Just become a travel agent. Use your travel agent license.
[02:36:28] Unknown:
That's the thing about that's the thing about prior to Lincoln's bullshit, we could, as individuals, be in or out of commerce at will. Right. And we were protected by Swift versus Tyson. And that's another thing that if you read Brosse to work and you can get that through your head about the public and the private, that we can claim Swift versus Tyson and that we're outside of commerce. But that's a whole another can of worms that's even more difficult to explain.
[02:37:03] Unknown:
And speaking of Tyson, they just closed the largest beef processing plant in America.
[02:37:12] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's probably owned by the Chinese, isn't it?
[02:37:24] Unknown:
I heard it was Tyson.
[02:37:26] Unknown:
Or the hippies bought it.
[02:37:28] Unknown:
I think Tyson was bought by the Chinese. Some of the big ones were were for sure. What was the big one out of Chicago that said we we process everything but the squeal? Who was that? Back in the Upton Sinclair days.
[02:38:02] Unknown:
That's the pork processors. That's Obama allowed that, Chinese sale to go through. I can't remember who the hell it is. It's the,
[02:38:16] Unknown:
I'm blanking out on it too.
[02:38:18] Unknown:
Yep. I just talked was talking about it last night. I can't remember the darn name of the pork company, but, yeah, they Frostdale Armor? Smithfield. What? It's Smithfield. What? Smithfield. Yeah. That's it.
[02:38:44] Unknown:
I think the the most important thing is that you make these claims, and then you tell them to refute them or be in agreement with them. Give them a period of time, and at least gives you, you know, some some weapons to refute what they wanna do to you when they think you're in the wrong and you've already told them, and they've agreed with you.
[02:39:20] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. You still got your ears on?
[02:39:40] Unknown:
The poor boy's got no ears.
[02:39:51] Unknown:
I'm wondering why we even need their agreement. Just says confirmation to show
[02:40:06] Unknown:
Well, be because otherwise, they presume that you're a fourteenth amendment citizen.
[02:40:12] Unknown:
Yes. A feudal system. Leads man to the leads lord.
[02:40:26] Unknown:
We're the black sheep.
[02:40:29] Unknown:
No. You don't understand the game. They're one of those. They want us to be one of them too.
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Point one. I think I understand their game pretty well.
[02:40:41] Unknown:
How dare you, crab. Crawl out of the pot. We're not gonna let you.
[02:40:54] Unknown:
You know, they think they got the upper hand because they got badge.
[02:40:59] Unknown:
And a gun.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
They have a lot of force, but they don't have any power.
[02:41:07] Unknown:
Well, now forced to go backwards too. You know?
[02:41:11] Unknown:
Live by the sword, die by it. Power is the truth. Power is the word of God. And that I'd rather They have none of that.
[02:41:29] Unknown:
I'd rather fill fill them full bullet of truths truth bullets.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
Some lady had a question for me. Who is she?
[02:42:07] Unknown:
Her name is Rachel. I'm not really familiar with her, but she was wanting to know what your affidavit consisted of. That's what she was seeking. And I got on the call late, so I'm not sure if she read it on the air or not.
[02:42:26] Unknown:
Yeah. If it's Rachel, Shane, she you you were gonna discuss things with her after the show. Right?
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I'm here.
[02:42:35] Unknown:
Well, then Did you read your gonna discuss it with you after the show.
[02:42:40] Unknown:
Right. But did you Yeah. Did you read your affidavit on the recorded call?
[02:42:48] Unknown:
Did I read my affidavit? No.
[02:42:51] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's the information she was seeking.
[02:42:54] Unknown:
What you Alright. I've written several affidavits and not necessarily for my political status. I wrote an affidavit for my, cryptocurrencies to president Donald Trump, and, I'm just waiting for it.
[02:43:17] Unknown:
Well, I'm not sure what that she was speaking of that she was wanting the information contained therein.
[02:43:25] Unknown:
Alright. Alright.
[02:43:38] Unknown:
Oh, you're the cat.
[02:43:43] Unknown:
Is she still here?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
I have no clue. I'm in by I can't see the list of participants. I yield.
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. After you said that, Shane, Paul also pointed out how you can get into a different room for a private conversation. But she's gone, I think, because she hasn't piped up.
[02:44:10] Unknown:
Or she's in Room 1 waiting for you. I don't know. Star 31.
[02:44:16] Unknown:
Well, it's not to me like they were gonna share information and call each other. Okay. There she is. I'm I'm still here.
[02:44:26] Unknown:
Sorry. I'm I'm very busy. I have a homestead here, and I'm still processing stuff that I, you know, took out of my garden. And, it's, you know, it's good. It's a good life. It's just that I, you know, I have to do I have to talk to you guys both in between my between my other tours. So
[02:44:56] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:44:59] Unknown:
Somewhat. Okay. You're you're not able to hear me very well?
[02:45:05] Unknown:
I hear you fine.
[02:45:07] Unknown:
Okay. Good. And this is Shane?
[02:45:10] Unknown:
My name is Shane. And your name is? I'm Rachel. Hi.
[02:45:17] Unknown:
I'm up here in Northern Arizona in Northern Land, LVS Land. Not I'm not LDS myself, but a lot of my good friends are.
[02:45:33] Unknown:
I'm in, communist California.
[02:45:36] Unknown:
Oh, oh, California. Some place I don't care to go to anymore. Yeah. Ever since the pandemic. Did you want to contact me privately or do you wanna continue talking on the group? Because I don't care either way. Because if somebody can learn something from whatever we're gonna talk about, that's fine.
[02:46:06] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Let's leave the system open. I'm, free. Oh, I'm, consent.
[02:46:18] Unknown:
Okay. So what repeat again what you were talking about on the show.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:46:30] Unknown:
Are you a national?
[02:46:32] Unknown:
I am a American national. Yes.
[02:46:35] Unknown:
Okay. American national. And you did all of that paperwork that they're talking about?
[02:46:42] Unknown:
Necessary. Yes.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
K. What was your process? Like, you did the affidavit. You applied for the card, the the, passport. Right? You have the card? Yes.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
I have a book.
[02:47:00] Unknown:
I have a book too. I just I need to find the darn thing. I'm really upset that I can't find it. It'll show up. I know what happened to it, and, it's not good. I I think my I tried to help my son. Quick story. And, I think he took it. I think he took it. He took some other very valuable things as well. No good deed goes unpunished.
[02:47:31] Unknown:
Right?
[02:47:33] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:47:35] Unknown:
Okay. So you have a book, but you don't have the card. Aren't you needing to get the card? How long have you been in American National?
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Probably about eight and a half years. I have to renew it. My birthday next year.
[02:47:55] Unknown:
And you have a pass are you saying you have to renew the passcode?
[02:48:00] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. And, also, I have a ID, California ID, which has my affidavit.
[02:48:11] Unknown:
Okay. Then how did you go about doing that?
[02:48:17] Unknown:
I simply went to I caught the I drove to the DMV. I got in line. I went to the, doing all that necessary stuff of of, stand. I did all the necessary stuff, and I simply placed my, affidavit into my application.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
I attached my affidavit. Trouble or anything? No trouble at all.
[02:48:59] Unknown:
Well, I'm hoping because Arizona and they're all thinking about Arizona. This isn't a lot, I suppose, because a lot of states have their areas that are very conservative, so to conservative, so to speak. And, Arizona the Northern part of Arizona is very conservative, while Tucson and Phoenix are very liberal. Mhmm. I myself do not participate in the two party system. But, you know, a lot of people here do, up here. You know? Yeah. We're trying you know, we've tried with our group to educate people, but to care more. And I think a lot of the people in the group got fired from dealing with it. So okay. So now you got your card. I mean, you got, yeah, you got your state ID, then you got your passbook.
Right?
[02:50:06] Unknown:
And Yeah. C n CLD. I don't have a CID ID. I simply have a a ID. Cal California ID. Yes. Sorry.
[02:50:17] Unknown:
Yes. CID. That's what it's called, the CID?
[02:50:21] Unknown:
No. I I don't know.
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Company ID. Yes. It is. Who's talking about doing? Because he talked about informing different, state officials in the information on the website. So did you do some of that? And is that what you were speaking of?
[02:50:47] Unknown:
Yes. I was speaking strictly for my ID and my passport.
[02:50:54] Unknown:
Okay. Who did you who else did you notify for that?
[02:51:02] Unknown:
The I the voting. I simply put my when I turn in my voting register where it is, I attached to my, affidavit to it, and I handed it in with to the lady. And she simply, ran it to some kind of printer and gave it back to me and said thank you. I simply, go about my life knowing that I am a US national. I'm not a United States citizen. And, also, I I tested this, within the, my, I'm no longer, voting as a United States citizen. I vote as a, what do you call that?
[02:52:03] Unknown:
Elector.
[02:52:04] Unknown:
Elect yeah. Elector. Thank you.
[02:52:12] Unknown:
Okay. So you wrote as an electrics. So now what were you talking about specifically on the show just this previous event?
[02:52:26] Unknown:
Yesterday?
[02:52:28] Unknown:
No. No. Today, you were speaking of something. But I thought it was because I was, of course, doing something else. And I just caught the tail end of your of your conversation, and it sounded like you were talking about the possibility of notifying other people so that you might not have as much of a hassle.
[02:52:52] Unknown:
Okay. Our system is built on, like, different levels of superiority or, feudal system, whatever you wanna call it. Mhmm. I, no noticed my, president of The United States. I noticed to the, I'm I'm not I noticed the passport. I noticed that the California ID, DMV, those are the only ones I, put on notice.
[02:53:33] Unknown:
Oh, You gave them a document. You issued them a document of notice.
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I simply copied, I gave them the same copy in which I gave the, the, US passport. I simply changed the cover letter or letterhead to each, who I was applying to.
[02:54:02] Unknown:
Now you're speaking of your affidavit. Right? Yes. And a copy of your passbook. Yes. Okay. Very interesting. Very interesting.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
Alright. As it says as it says right here can you get over there?
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sure. Mhmm.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
And it says right here on the, application for US passport, it says on the bottom, it says, warning, false statements not knowingly or willingly in passport application, including affidavits or other documents subject to support this application are partial by by fine and or imprisonment under US law, including the provisions of 18 USC 1,001. I'm, 18 it goes on and on.
[02:55:20] Unknown:
Wait. Where is that? Is that on your card?
[02:55:24] Unknown:
Yes. It is. It's a d s eleven two thousand, 2013.
[02:55:33] Unknown:
Okay. So what, so you took a copy of that?
[02:55:42] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:55:45] Unknown:
And you sent it with the affidavit.
[02:55:50] Unknown:
To the secretary of state. Yes.
[02:55:53] Unknown:
To the secretary of state. Now was that when you were applying for your American National when you were electing when you were doing your election?
[02:56:12] Unknown:
This is from the application for US passport.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:56:24] Unknown:
And then underneath that is downhill. It's
[02:56:29] Unknown:
See, the the thing is that I already have that's what I was telling Roger. I already have a passport on record, but I don't have, you know, I don't have the physical passport. This is really common. Anyway, I'm gonna have to, I guess, reapply for that before I can get the card. I'm gonna go on their website, and I'm gonna try to ascertain what I need to do to do that.
[02:56:58] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:56:59] Unknown:
But I have to do the affidavit first. Right?
[02:57:04] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:57:07] Unknown:
Well, I'll start there. And once once again, when you fill out the, when you get the affidavit, I guess, what they call that they call it, what do you call it when they stamp it and they say you you're Mhmm. That's a notarized notarized No. Yeah. Notarized. Thank you. Yeah. When you get it notarized, then you send it to the head honcho, secretary of state. Once you receive your passport back from him, then you use that same affidavit, and you give it to the DMV. You give it to the state the IRS. You give it to the state state, assembly.
Oh, wow. Oh, I can show.
[02:58:01] Unknown:
And when you did that, did anybody contact you back or anything like that?
[02:58:11] Unknown:
When I contracted with with that, I received nothing back.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
Nothing.
[02:58:18] Unknown:
Wow. Nothing. I I received nothing back from them. That means silence deems consent.
[02:58:26] Unknown:
Okay. That's interesting. Okay. So so do you have a driver's license? No. No. And have you ever been called over?
[02:58:42] Unknown:
No.
[02:58:43] Unknown:
No. That's good. I have, unfortunately. Yeah. Feeding up here. It's a big thing because these guys get a lot of revenue. Like Roger was saying, you know, well, god forbid they should lose their their, you know, their revenue from tickets from harassing their local citizens on road, you know, backwards where, you know, I was going 80 miles an hour on a road that you won't see anybody. It's ridiculous. And I did try to actually fight that, and it didn't work for Sydney. So but I'm looking forward to having this designation so that I don't have to pass it. But I am watching my students, and I'm getting better about that.
Okay. Well, hey. Thank you for, for, being available to answer my questions. I really appreciate that.
[02:59:56] Unknown:
If I could be of any help, yes.
[02:59:59] Unknown:
What's your what's your name again?
[03:00:04] Unknown:
Shane. Shane.
[03:00:06] Unknown:
Okay. Shane. As I said, Jamie was saying. Shane. Okay.
[03:00:12] Unknown:
I Or watch the movie.
[03:00:14] Unknown:
Because I wasn't hearing it properly. At times, I heard Lane and then and I'm like, okay. Which one was okay. That's good. Yeah. I am assuming that our phone numbers are on there. I like being, you know, being able to access this group. You know? Are you on here often?
[03:00:39] Unknown:
Yes. I've been here since, every day since
[03:00:45] Unknown:
Very cool. 2016. Oh, wow. Wow. You've been with this group for that long. That's great. Wow. Well, I'm I'm happy to be a part of it, and now I need to get more of my toys done. So but, what a pleasure being part of your group. Thank you, guys.
[03:01:05] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome.
[03:01:07] Unknown:
Alright, Shane. You have a very blessed day.
[03:01:11] Unknown:
Thanks. You do the same.
[03:01:13] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Take care. God bless.
[03:01:16] Unknown:
Bye. For the lady that's talking?
[03:01:20] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here.
[03:01:21] Unknown:
Just just FYI, all the shows are recorded. Hold on. Missed something during you missed it during the show, but you can surely go back and listen to the recordings.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Listen to what recording?
[03:01:37] Unknown:
The show recordings.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
So if you miss a show or Hold on. How do you go about
[03:01:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So if you miss a show or you, want to relist to something because you didn't quite capture it or you need to make some more additional notes Mhmm. They're all available on Roger's website. Just a matter of going there, and then it's the you click on the EuroFolk Network
[03:02:07] Unknown:
link. That's what that is.
[03:02:09] Unknown:
Okay. The first page. It's right. Everything's right there. We gotta look for it, but it's network.
[03:02:17] Unknown:
What she needs to do is go to the matrixdocs.com.com.
[03:02:24] Unknown:
I I'm already on it.
[03:02:27] Unknown:
It's Listen. Pod home.
[03:02:31] Unknown:
PodHome?
[03:02:33] Unknown:
Well, there's a link there. I've never clicked on it, so I'm not familiar. But Okay. The archives are at the PodHome.
[03:02:44] Unknown:
Oh, Pod Home. So if you're on Ma'am? Globalvoiceradionetwork.net, which is radio which is the the matrixdocs.com, the state code. Matrixdocs,
[03:02:55] Unknown:
there's a link that says archives. If you go to that, you'll get to the archives. It's not on Eurofolks.
[03:03:01] Unknown:
Oh. Thank you, Lee.
[03:03:03] Unknown:
So I have probably there is a link that says Global Voice Radio Network. That's where I go. And then for merits, it's got all the podcast listed.
[03:03:16] Unknown:
But that's how I find it. I don't know of another way. Yeah. That's true. That will get you there also. The Global Voice, that that'll that'll take you to the archives also. But I'm pretty sure there's a link on there that says archives.
[03:03:28] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'll work around in there for sure.
[03:03:33] Unknown:
I'll find I have a question.
[03:03:35] Unknown:
I have a question for you. Sure. Okay. Are you calling in, or are you using the computer?
[03:03:45] Unknown:
I am using my phone right now. Originally, I was on my computer, but, like, right now, I'm talking on my old iPhone. This is not this doesn't have a it's not connected to a network. It's connected to my, my, you know, my router. Yeah. It's it is a cell phone, but it is I'm utilizing my Wi Fi to be able to do this. Yeah. Alright. It's a little more private, I think. You know? So and it doesn't tie up my other phone. So that's fine. It's a good thing. That's a good thing. Well, you fine, folks. I got some work to do. So, hopefully, we'll talk again now. It's not tomorrow. Right? It's Monday. Correct?
Yes. Okay. Very cool. I'll I'll try to listen in on Monday too.
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Alright.
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Alright. You all have a great, what's left of the day.
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Thanks. Thank you. Likewise, I'm sure.
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Thank you. Take care.
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Bye for now.
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Bye now.
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Earth to Paul Beener.
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Yeah. He coulda walked away.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Who's on the after show? Who's here?
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I am.
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Hi.
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Who's the We all are here.
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We all are. We all. All we. Morning.
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Afternoon. I got this ABC Radio on here, and, they just announced in Greece, brown bears and wolves, are are, they've come back. You know? They brought them back due to good conservation and, you know, efforts of whoever, but but the farmers and ranchers and people are in fear of their lives and their livelihoods because they're eating all their livestock and killing people. But that's okay because, yeah, it we're we're saving the planet for the brown bears and the wolves. Isn't that special?
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You said in Greece?
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Well, Dave, they gotta eat too.
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Yeah. Your children. And, yes, Shane, Greece. But check out, you know, Wyoming and, you know, all the the Rocky Mountain States. They've reintroduced this, Canadian Timberwolf. It weighs like 200 pounds, and they are vicious and voracious. And they attack, pregnant elk, and they tear the baby out of the out of the womb and eat that first while the mother's laying there watching it. Isn't that special?
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That sounds like a demonic animal in my opinion.
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I know my brother is a werewolf, and he's human or half human.
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Not only demonic, but GMO, genetically modified.
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So where where did you see these, bear, bears, coyotes eating, I guess, livestock.
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I didn't see it. I just heard, you know, stories from ranchers about it. You know, locals in in all those states, they've been releasing these timberwolves for about ten years now. And, Yeah. It's a it's a big problem. You know, the they part of agenda twenty, thirty, or twenty fifty is to rewild America. By 2030, they want 30% of all the land in America that people live on to be, given back rewilded and given to the states or the feds. And by 2050, they want 50%, and they're gonna put everybody in these dumbed down mind controlled lab rat smart cities, fifteen minute cities.
And, yep, if we don't stand up, it's coming. Already on its way. It's here in many places.
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Hey, Andy. The link you put in the chat, I get, this page doesn't exist. Try searching for something else.
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Yeah. I would like to see the wolfs or were werewolves, eating, livestock. You know? What's wrong with the little blood?
[03:13:58] Unknown:
Yeah. The werewolves of London should be eating the royalty. But, unfortunately, once they run out, they'll be looking for more food.
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Well, I have not actually will not get, like, the, elite.
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Yeah. King Charles is a direct descendant of Vlad the Impaler. I mean, it's freaking Count Dracula. He lives in, in, Transylvania.
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What do the castles have? They had moats.
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They also had they also had their stools were, over a hole, that drug that dropped right into the river, and the peasants were all bathing downstream.
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Dung. Human dung.
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Yeah. They call it humanure, and they actually sell organic humanure at Home Depot and and, Lowe's and and the like. And it it on the ingredients, it says, biosolids in the ingredients list. And it all comes from, you know, the these, septic tank cleaners. They they run that stuff out in their fields, and then they recollect it, and and they sell it as organic humanure.
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It might come from, like, public outhouses also, you know, when they go and have people empty those.
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And you know Oh, absolutely. Know what pharmaceuticals those people are taking. That's filtered. Yeah. Right.
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Fluoride.
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Well, I would hazard a guess that most people have that in their system unless they filter their water.
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Yeah. Don't forget plastic. The plastic we have, the blood the plastic we have in our blood.
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Right. But any manure that you use in your garden should only come from, vegetative animals, you know, like cows. But since they the feed contains a ground up pieces of the cow. They have made, you know, what's it called when you eat your own? I can't think of the word right now. But I wouldn't use any mammal.
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That cow's pretty mad.
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Yeah. But what what's it called when you eat your Pyrenees.
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Cannibalism?
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Yeah. When the cows eat their eat their brains
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cannibalized, the cows of the country for the most part.
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Yep. They've cannibalized the people that, Rabbi Finkelstein told that preacher on that New York radio show that they kidnap all the children, you know, the missing children on the milk cartons in America. They kidnap them. They they take them in the basements of their synagogues. They drain their blood. They mix it in their matzah balls, and they, drink Havah and Megillah Right. Or drink Manischewitz and sing the hava nigella.
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They do far worse before, the blood even
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Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But then they they own all the meat packing plants, and they they grind up that meat, and they sell it back to all the restaurants and feed all that meat back to the people. I said it right on the radio. Rabbi Finkelstein.
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Very
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sick.
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Well, it's my understanding in Mexico, they are using the bio, manure as well for their avocado trees and their corn and all of that. So unless you put it yourself, you don't know where it's come from and what has been put upon it. I yield.
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All I want is a pathogen of pantry.
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Thanks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Did you ever get the the cop arrested?
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No. No. I didn't do that. I got an airplane to do. Something very, very oh, boy.
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And you can't share until after?
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No. I'll do it when I get ready to do it. That's all.
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Okay. No. Fair enough.
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No. No. It's just a simple it's a simple thing. It's gonna stop them in the tracks. It's a simple thing. It's gonna stop them in the tracks. I gotta formulate it first, but, it works on other things too. So it's an estoppel.
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Yeah. What can I can I can name in the cop as a counterclaim defendant?
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Do what now?
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Calling a counterclaim.
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No. No. No.
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No. This is gonna stop
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them. Alright.
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Can't wait to Shut them down. It'll shut them down. It'll shut them down because all every official that's holding the office in the in the state has been notified. And then it's all cured. You know, the affidavit was cured too way before that. No. So, anyway, they're all gonna get a shot. Now I've they wanna and the playboy that that labeled me as a a cell as, cell okay. I can't remember what he said to call me. I can't anyway.
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He called you a sovereign citizen. Right? Is that what you're trying to think of? Yeah. Sovereign citizen.
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That's, that that's gonna be his fault, not mine.
[03:22:23] Unknown:
I tell him I was a national. There's no such thing as a sovereign citizen. You look like a sovereign citizen to me. And see, the guy and I and my, the the girl I'm taking care of, she went in she's she's a national too. She said, I'll help Bruce with the, bill. Just let us know. And he said, okay. We'll do that. And, so, anyway, he's supposed to get an estimate and send us information or send us a bill, and we'll pay for it. But it's nothing but a little scrape on the bumper. You can't even see what my car my car didn't get anything with a little dust on it. He had a brand new truck, and, all I did was the the side bumper went around. Just that little part right there is what I touched.
And then when I started saying I'm a national, they said, do well, what do you mean? I said, well, I I'm on car. I don't have it registered here. I don't have to. I'm a national, and, I'm free. He said, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, well, it's, something that you might wanna know about, and, I can help you understand it. And he said, well, I don't know. And he said, you don't have a license you don't have a license? I said, no. So I don't need a license to to travel around. I'm a traveler. And, so he called the place,
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and they came up. That was the trigger phrase.
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I don't have a license.
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Do what now? That was the trigger phrase for the man that you scratched his bumper. When you said you don't have a license, he said, oh, no.
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No. No. No. I didn't have the right tag on my car.
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No. First, what you just got done saying was that you told him you didn't have a license, and that's when he called the police. I'm telling you, people look at you like, oh, well, you're not going along with what we have to do. And if we're doing it, they want you to do it as well. And if you're not, they'll punish
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you. And that's Okay. I was there. You wasn't. I told them I didn't have I had a South Carolina, tag on my car. I had it for three years up here. I had it, in South Carolina. Four became a national on that tag. This is is is a a tag was supposed to be a a a I, when you first sign up for a tag, you know,
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up here. Anyway, it was paper tag. Did not say that when you told him you didn't have a driver's license is when he called the police.
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No. I had already told him I didn't have a driver's license. Okay. I have a I I have an ID. That's what I heard you say. He accepted it. He he accepted that. I showed him my ID. Okay. I said this is my property, and I I'm gonna take care of your your situation. He he agreed with me. Okay. That's no problem. Now what I said was a national is what king cheated him off.
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Oh, okay. That's what I was getting ready to ask. What was it that was said that prompted his call to 911?
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Yep.
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I mean, he wasn't jumping on me or nothing like that. He was just kinda like, I guess, thinking that I was trying to get away with something. You know? And I was just telling him the truth. Standing there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And so we'd already agree agreed. He he accepted it that we would pay him, you know, out of our pocket. And, he said, okay. You know? And when I I said I was a national, so is she. And we'll take care of our our, you know, debts, and that's what we do.
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It's just a little scraping on his brand new dollars in your pocket, and you handed it to him and said,
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does this make thing right? No. No. No. No. I I wanted it I wanted an estimate from him so I could do what I needed to do to make his car whole again.
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I wasn't gonna offer him that, Bruce, but do you have an idea in your mind what it would cost? I
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No. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. It's it's just a little scraping. So I'm sure it would've covered that scratch,
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but they don't make bumpers like they used to, do they? Exactly. Uh-huh. I remember, I had a '95 Intrepid, and I got broadsided, and the bumper needed to be replaced. Anyway, they wanted to put, just a a fascia bumper and not the original bumper back on. And it was the body shop. It was he was a friend of mine. So he called me and he said, do not let the insurance company get away with this. Yeah. Once that bumper put back. And Right. Yeah, so it was a little more costly. But, anyway, it just you have to make decisions right, and I get that. But I also backed up into somebody one time, and it really didn't do anything, you know, because it was an old Ford station wagon, and I was in a scout.
But I just handed him a $150, and he said, we're we're fine. So Okay.
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No. I didn't offer him any money. I told him we we we would pay for it. Sam, I helped this lady with one one leg, and, she was the only one I was the only one. She wanted me to help him. So as they, got I got employed by the people that do that kind of service here in the homeland home, solution. And, they've given me, let's see, two pay raises because of what I'm doing with her. I go over there in the middle of the night, in the middle of the early morning. I'll check on her three times, before we wake up during the night and morning. Make sure she's still in the bed because she's taking meds that just kinda get her off off line. You know?
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Anyway.
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So Well, my thing is if you can, rectify the situation and make it right right there on the spot about a third party, the better off you are. So and it usually just requires cash.
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That's all. Yeah. I understand that. But he he agreed to what we were gonna do. You know? And I said, I would I I'm a caretaker, a woman, and she's a national too. And let me get on the phone to see if she would help too to own the bill. You know? And he said, well, okay. So I got on the phone. They talked, and I talked to him. I said, see, I'm the primary, so I'll pay for it. You know? But she's gonna help, whatever it costs. So, see, I had backing. And then when I said I'm a national, that's when it went sideways on him.
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Well, I'm just saying pulling cash out of your wallet would have changed his mind. That's just my thinking, and that's my experience. Now I Yeah. And that's been many years ago.
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So Well, see, the thing was, I was trying to be the most honest I possibly could, not bribe him into taking the money and forget about it. It's not a bribe. It's making it right right then and there. That's all. Well, I know it's gonna be $200 worth of damage. You know? That's the problem. Leave him hanging for the bill. You know? That's not right. I mean, it's not. I wouldn't do that to anybody.
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I I bet you it's gonna be a whole lot more than $200. He's probably gonna take it to the dealer where he bought it. It's brand new, and he wants it brand new again. That's gonna cost a pretty penny at the dealer.
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Mhmm. Whatever.
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Right? We currently
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Just saying.
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I'll make I'll make payment somewhere. How about that? Or I'll make the police do the payment because I'm gonna charge them a bunch of money what they did to me.
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AJ Poll.
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Are you still traveling about in that same conveyance that they said they were gonna
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strip from you next time they sell you? Just curious. No. They took the tag off, the South Carolina tag on there. I just let them do what they wanna do, you know, because they're gonna do it anyway. You don't do it out there in the middle of the road.
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Yeah.
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Samuel.
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I wanna give you some shit.
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You wanna what? Give me some shit?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Back in the nineties, I bought a book on humanure. Yeah. And and the subtitle is shit in a nutshell. And it the the guy says that what he he he couldn't find anybody who would print it, so he finally got enough money out of print it himself. And he and the minimum printing, he figured, well, they're all gonna rot in my garage. Right? And the Internet being a very popular book, and it's in its fourth edition now.
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Wow.
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And you know what? Think about it. What difference is it than animal manure? We put that on our crops all the time. Right? Now if you've got people full of pathogens and they're not well nutritioned, like, I figure all the Youngevity and other stuff I take, that stuff's pretty valuable. Right. And if it's processed right and you know the source, it's like anything else. I think it can be usable. I generally use it on things I'm not gonna eat, But if I had to, I think I would trust it. Because the process it goes through, like, first for me, the, the worms turned it into worm castings.
And then after that, you can put it in the sunlight and stuff like that. And, you know, just by putting it on top of the soil, and let it sit there for a while before you work it in. So or you can just like, if you're putting it around trees or shrubbery or whatever, you can, you can just let the rain drive it in. You know?
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But I would agree with you, Samuel, except for using animal manure that are something other than herbivores. And they've even turned the herbivores into cannibals. So
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Well, if you really wanna get your bang for your buck with with any thing like that, you wanna compost it so you're breaking it down more for plants. And it's more being more purified through that process of heat and bacterial
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deposition.
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I wouldn't disagree, but, do you put meat into your compost? No. You don't. So why would you put manure from an animal who eats meat into your compost?
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That doesn't make sense to me. I'm not necessarily putting it in my compost, but I'm saying you can compost it to break it down more. That's all I'm saying.
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Okay. I I'm just saying that you should stick to herbivore animals, manure rather than carnivores.
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Well, yeah. That's be because people are afraid of humanure because for that reason, and the that's what this book is about if anybody's interested. It's it's still out there and it's like $20.
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So So he says that you can compost your own manure, so to speak?
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Well, it's not the whole book is about humanure. Yeah.
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Okay. What's the other book?
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Well, I guess if it's your own and you know what you're eating and know what you're putting through your system, it would be a different matter than just buying it at Home Depot.
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Yeah. Because people are loading themselves up with pharmaceuticals, and who knows how well that breaks down. Right?
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And plastic.
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Well, it doesn't break down, and I'll tell you why. Because they're petroleum based.
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Right. Yep.
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So I I think there's, you know, there's there's reality and there's limitations as with most anything. You know? But the book is about how to do this, and it's it's sort of a survival book itself. You know, when the shit hits the fan.
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Yeah. Literally and figuratively.
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These are these are some options you might have that you haven't considered. Right? Yeah. That's the name of the book. Humanure. The Humanure Handbook. Shit in a Nutshell by Joseph Jenkins.
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Humanure Jenkins?
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The Humanure Handbook.
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I guess we could use that language on the patrol people. They're humanoids.
[03:37:49] Unknown:
Just remember, forever chemicals and the worst one is fluoride, hydrofluorosilicic acid. It is the most caustic acid known to man, and it is deadly.
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Yeah. It doesn't break down either. Very difficult to get out of anything.
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Right. But it would, break down your compost pile pretty quickly.
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I'm gonna start calling all the officials humanoids.
[03:38:26] Unknown:
So, Dave, why did you recommend omega three for my friend's problem?
[03:38:34] Unknown:
Well, because all skin issues come from an omega three deficiency, and and it it's all it's it's almost when you have a gluten tolerance and you're 82 years old, you know, you're the inside of your, small intestine looks like the inside of an old garden hose. So if you can't absorb if you're taking omega threes and you got issues on your skin, that means you're not absorbing, and it's it's a big clunky, nutrient, and it's easy to absorb. So you gotta heal that gut,
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and you need What else do I have? Well, the best way to heal the gut
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is probiotics, prebiotics, postbiotics, and, aloe. The the gel from an aloe plant, it's very healing on the gut.
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And skin.
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And I would also add that dairy products.
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It's the urge What about dairy products?
[03:39:43] Unknown:
Dairy products, your cheese, your your cream, your milk, your butter. If you cut that out, it tends to help with eczema if that is what you all are speaking of. Yeah. Well, dairy dairy products are superfoods,
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and if you get them from organically fed, grass fed cows, you know, it's a whole lot better than that crap you buy at the store. But, yeah, the everybody wants everybody to stop eating dairy, and dairy is a superfood.
[03:40:14] Unknown:
No. What I'm saying is have him take that out of his diet for three to five days and see if it alleviates the issue. And how many people, Dave, I'm just saying, I I can't afford organic. And even if you buy organic, does it is it truly organic? So what I found is that your eczema, your skin problems in that regard tend to go along with how much dairy you take in. So he could keep I suggest everybody keep a food journal and, know what you put in and then monitor the results. And that's really simple. And if it's helpful, great. And that's Yep. Very simple, and it's very important. And it doesn't cost you anything to do that. Right. Just a little time.
Uh-huh. So and I think the dairy, you know, like you buy at the store, the RBGH, might cause even more issue in that regard. So like you said, Dave, if you're not eating organic, but I still think that
[03:41:50] Unknown:
because they call it organic, doesn't make it so. And how would you know unless you're there? Oh, I agree. But we gotta eat, and, you're better off with the organic than not. And check out eatwild.com. Eatwild.com.
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Yep. Joyce Riley.
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Eatwild.com.
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Yeah. They'll give you the organic, farmers and, ranchers or whatever in your area. But in the meantime, lift it up. Lift it up to the almighty. He can cleanse anything. Be thankful and ask him to make it a reward for your body with anything you eat. I yield.
[03:42:53] Unknown:
It's been a long time since I've looked at that book, but I'm pretty sure that they, they discuss in there all the cultures that have used human waste in their crops, especially the Asians.
[03:46:13] Unknown:
Hey. Can y'all hear me?
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I can.
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. I finally figured out how to use this thing.
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Alright.
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I think I'll be calling in next week. I've got, well, I think to be some pretty good news, but I don't wanna, put it down too much because I mean, plowing to it too hard because I need to have Roger's approval on it. But, I really appreciate all the learning y'all have given everybody, including myself. I'm in Savannah, Georgia. This is Jean. And so, I guess I'll be talking to you soon and get back on Monday. Or, no, it'll be Tuesday for sure. Alright. That's it. Star six button. That's what I was needing.
[03:47:23] Unknown:
You don't wanna give us a preview, Yes. Welcome.
[03:47:33] Unknown:
Alright. Let me ask you all a question. Do you know how to run the country with no debt? The country would be totally out of debt.
[03:47:54] Unknown:
Do we know how to what?
[03:47:56] Unknown:
Do you do you know how to run the country? To and the the country would be totally out of debt.
[03:48:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Print your own currency.
[03:48:05] Unknown:
No use reattached. Don't borrow your own money.
[03:48:12] Unknown:
Alright. I agree with the first answer. And not only would be out of debt, but we would also have no taxation. The the part about no usury, that would be something that is would have to be monitored or evaluated what is currency in today's economic reality. But if you don't have interest attached to money, you don't have any time value of money, and then you wouldn't be able to loan money because you need to keep all the money you have. Right?
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So
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I think you need a little more definition.
[03:48:59] Unknown:
Currency is manmade. Notes are, God God given, like, gold, silver, and copper and all that good stuff. That that's God's money. And, what you're using as currency, shoots the, the ball right right out of the park. So I'm not I don't know, Jane, if I agree with that totally. Current c
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is water, electricity. It's energy. Current c is energy.
[03:49:37] Unknown:
Well, one of the problems I have with I bought I bought a hook, line, and sinker when I first studied it studied this stuff long time ago. You know, gold and silver is great, but it's finite. So, therefore, there's limited amount. So when when people borrow money in society, if all there was was gold and silver, you wouldn't be able to pay it back. You wouldn't have anything to pay back the interest. So you need something that's flexible, and that's where your promissory notes come in. So that gives you time to pay it back.
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So we would See, if you cut out the usury, then no one can build a business for loaning money. We're not supposed to, go to a business for that. I was raised that
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Usury isn't interest. It's excessive interest.
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Say it again, please.
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Usury is not interest. It's excessive interest. You know, like loan sharks and stuff like that. Look at the credit cards. They're allowed to charge, like, 50% interest now. I mean, if that ain't you, I don't know what is.
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Okay. So I was raised my mom and dad saved money for what they wanted to buy. They didn't go alone except for their home. That was the only thing that they paid interest on. And back in the early sixties, the interest rate was so minimal. No. And now we have Pay cash for the car? We They pay cash for everything else.
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But now we have excessive taxation. We've got welfare, our money given away to people that don't work. We've got so many violations of this economic these good economic principles. So what we need to do is establish public banks. And there's a thing called the public banking institute by, you know, Ellen Brown. She's part of it. The Bank of North Dakota, but they're not really totally public banks yet because they're still using Federal Reserve notes. But if we could establish local public banks, and phase them into the, society society, then the interest on the mortgages would pay for the government.
So the government, they would need to spend money to pay for their operating expenses, but when they spend money, that's inflationary. Now when they loan money, it takes that instead of taxing it out of circulation, we would just the government would loan the money to the people, and then the interest would would be deflationary. So it balanced out. And then the government's budget should eventually once it gets totally phased in, their budget should, equal the interest on the mortgages or the loans that the government makes to the people. What do y'all think about that?
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Thank you. To Ellen Brown talk about those things. It's benefit. It's benefit, but, and it's interesting. And are you also familiar with the, Bank of North Dakota?
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Yeah. You mentioned That's what I was saying. They they they're still using federal reserve notes. But you see, here's the problem. See okay. You look at the fourteenth amendment, and it says, you can't question the national debt. So that's a nail in our coffin. So who can support that when they support the US constitution? That that's ridiculous. But don't forget now. Go go go look at, I'll tell you what. Go to The US debt clock, at usdebtclock.org, and it shows you how how the national debt goes up every second. But then in the upper right hand corner, if you click that little secret door right there, it gives you a, a timeline.
There's a basic timeline is what of what has happened economically throughout The United States. And, and also not quotes Ben Franklin. I I really don't trust Ben Franklin because, you know, he's one of them, hellfire boys. You know? But, where's my notes? Where's my notes here? Not a showman. That's right. In 1793, this is what they say he said. Who knows what he said? He said, the the colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea, and that's another thing. What kind of revolution is that throwing tea into the harbor? That was just a masonic skit to throw us off to put a benchmark in history that they could point to to throw us off the track. That's not really what the revolution was about. This is what it was.
The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George the third and the international bankers was the prime reason for the revolutionary war.
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And on April 19 eighteenth or seventeen seventy five, they they came to take the guns and the powder. And that's when the war started.
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Yep. And then guess what? We lost it. We lost the war again when they met behind closed doors. We don't know who was really there. We don't know who was really saying what or writing down what because they burnt the archives to the constitutional convention and came out with that US constitution. And right in there in article one section 10, where they got us patriots thinking that gold and silver coin is is good currency, it's only partially good currency because you need the notes. And here's what really killed us. No state shall coin money, emit bills of credit, make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender in payment of debt.
So right there, we lost the war all over again right there. Am I making sense? They took our power away. They gave it to the central government. And are they obeying that right there? Yeah. I'll
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I, I agree with that. Yep. That when you take the power from the people, the right to do business with whom they choose, and they, the government starts regulating it. Did anyone hear Edwin Viera on Jeff Rent this past week? He is from Virginia, and he said this may be his last stand and it has to do with the shifting of government in Virginia and Virginia's constitution superseded even the declaration of independence. So, anyway, I find it quite interesting, but the people need to stand up and we don't no. No. No. We just need to stand up and say no. I do not consent.
So and Yeah. And do not count on your neighbors just to stand with you. That's probably not gonna happen. But the almighty, if he be for you, who could be against against you? So stand with him in truth and honor. And that's what we have now. That's my thinking, anyway.
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Mhmm. Well, I I had called, Paul before I went to work one day and told him what I was talking about and gave him a couple of websites. And I think he referred that to Roger. And that same day, he was asking basically for me to call in. I don't know if you remember that day, but I was I was going to work. I didn't know they thought I was gonna call in that day.
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But, Your name, please? I missed it.
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This is this is Jean Carl Savanna.
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Well, I'm not familiar with that day or, you know, Roger expecting you to call in. So, but you're here now, and that's what's important. So thank you.
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Yeah. So, be thinking about it. Any questions or any problems with the idea? I think it's a good model. I think it's what they don't want us to do, and I think that's one reason why we need to do it. But it's scary because, you know, it's like a pipe dream.
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What your model is for us to participate in?
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If the government was the bank, would they need any taxes? No. Eric, I really don't wanna bring up Eric. Who are you? Because he was like, another Roger Sales, but I think he's passed away by now. I've no I know people have called in and mentioned his name. I know people have talked to, you know, about a lot of things, but we haven't concealed on an economic model that would plight these guys. And but, see, Eric, who are you? Came up with it. Eric Williams, also known as Eric. Who are you? He came up with this and he also wrote a proposed twenty eighth amendment to the US Constitution, which allowed basically public banking at all levels of government and each each, county, city, state, federal, we get a piece of the action of the interest.
So that's one possibility you would have to pass an amendment to the US Constitution, I guess. The other solution, I think, is that we cut the feds out of it entirely because I'm tired of them telling us that we got to do what they want us to do. And if we don't, then we don't get that. What do they call it, that revenue sharing that they send back to the states that they already took from us.
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You know, their bribes. But they've already That's that carrot. Their power to administrative. That's why we have all these, agencies governing us. Why and every court administrative is a bank in and of itself. So just off the top of my head, I'm not so sure that I would want to consolidate that with the beds. That's that's my thinking. We need to go back to local
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and
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Yeah. Buying and selling local with our neighbors.
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And
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The Ithaca dollar still exists.
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That's right. That's what yeah. Say again.
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They said the Ithaca the Ithaca dollar still exists. And I don't believe it does. It does not. I I looked at that not that long ago. We were talking about on the show, and and and they don't use it anymore. I think it's been about ten years at least. Really?
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I thought they still used it.
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Well, let's talk about it. What backed the Ithaca dollar? It was basically
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Labor.
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Yeah. People.
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The the trust of the people. Hartford Van Dijk wrote a book called creating currencies for local communities.
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Basically, the the dollar. We ought to get that.
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Yep.
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And whatever the people decide to accept as remuneration using the legal word,
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I don't wanna use gold and silver because I can't replace it.
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Oh. Well, I don't mind using
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a silver, pre nineteen sixty three minute coins because it is, recognizable to others, and it is tradable. And so I don't have any problem with that. And
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How about tally sticks?
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That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter what you use. It just be has to be accepted by Right. Whom you're trading with or bartering with.
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That's all. I have.
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And it takes out any third party. And third parties are the problem with everything.
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I have a suggestion.
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Sure.
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In, and something you might also look at as part of this, but, in my quest to find out what the canon of the Old Testament is or should be, you come across this book called Jubilees, which talks about this economic system that God said they should be using and the Sabbath and the Jubilees, etcetera, is being part of that. And I think that could be incorporated into and it is one of the reasons I think the Pharisees got rid of the book is because they were money hug lovers and were getting rich, and that book would have gotten in their way.
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I think this is gonna be a a hot topic to reinforce what Roger's been doing. I don't want it to interfere what he's been doing, but it might give it some new life. But we we we need to market every day, hand out flyers every day, and, keep it moving. And, also, think of, you know, how can we create an economic model and work together and, maybe create more than one economic model
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with different ideas and see what we can do about it. Be be because of my interest in Jubilees, I I bought this book, called Ecosystems of Jubilees, and it's about economic ethics for the neighborhood. It's written by Adam Gustein and, Jose mum Humphreys. I don't know if these two guys are communist yet, but,
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That's one thing that, Bank of North Dakota was having problems with when they tried to get started. A lot of people were calling them communist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Knowing you're giving your liver some relief. But, you know, bad money drives out good money or bad currency drives out good currency. So that's why people hoard the gold and the silver. So this would allow us to trade amongst ourselves with gold and silver when we saw fit because we would have more money. We'd have more currency. We would have less taxes, no taxes. Eventually, once the day is fully implemented, and if we created a budget, they said they couldn't spend more than what they took in an interest.
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This is five senior But we get back in
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back in the eighteen twenties, the whole reason they, when we had congressman who really cared, they passed a land patent, law, and that was to keep the wealthy from buying all the good land up. They wanted to make sure that that could be held free and clear of debt and taxes in order to make sure that the community was built up with with people who are producing on their own land, and it worked great.
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So
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so it's sort of it's very much like Jubilees. It really is.
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Right. And just like when the trash out we would loan our friend or a family member money. We didn't charge usury. We didn't charge interest. Why should interest ever come in in that regard? And as long as you keep it local, then usury interest, it should not play a part in that transaction.
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An asthma attack can strike any anytime.
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Be prepared with quick acting primacy Anybody else talk in that regard? I don't know why usury or interest, you know, when the commandment is love your neighbor as your own self, why would you expect interest back from your neighbor? You're helping them out. And if they pay you back, fine. But when you give them the money or currency to begin with, you give it out of love. And so I've never loaned anybody money. I give it to them. If they bring it back, hallelujah. And if they don't, then you know not to do that again. And what shame comes upon them?
So and that's my thought about the interest thing. It should not exist. And it does not exist in our almighty's plan for us. I guess. But but but what I
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think about that is a lot of times the bad people take advantage of the good people. And the interest is kinda like a way of, well, you know, when you're just a loan of money on a friendship basis, that's another story.
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Well, what I'm saying is that you pivot if it comes back right because it doesn't make you know not to do that again. And that's where the thing
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from him. And I think
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they'll the word will get around that he's not a man of his word. So
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Like, TitleMax here in Georgia, they charge in 300% interest a year.
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I know. And they have to put that on their just a little card, you know, when you walk into their window. Well, that used to be what it was back in the nineties anyway. Then, they had to tell you what the history was.
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I couldn't believe it until I saw somebody that hawked their car to title, and then it's like, oh my god. Mhmm.
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No. So that's why usury is wrong. What's that line? Was never supposed to be a business. It was supposed to be amongst friends and family, neighbors. And you just speak to your neighbors and did nothing in return. And if they could return it, hallelujah. That's all I could say about that. Mhmm. In the meantime, you know, it's like giving money to your children. Do you expect them to pay back? You know they're not going to, and why hold that over their head? Here you go. As long as you're doing the right thing with it.
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Mhmm.
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The usury thing is what is the joy? So many relationships, and a business has been built on it.
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That's me. Do we do we have a moderator that can stop that noise?
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Well, it seems I could stop now. I yield.
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Alright.
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I just feel totally totally inadequate to be able to, move this idea forward. So I hope everybody, if they like it, they they they also promote it because I'm not the only one that can do it by myself.
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Here's a comment from AI on Jubilees. It says, contrary to common myths that Jubilees involved outright debt forgiveness, the system function more as a debt repayment mechanism where the value of the land's future crops was used to settle obligations effectively paying off the debt over time. But you got the land back. That was the thing every fifty years. It would be returned, but it wasn't just a debt forgiveness. It it was a challenge for you to be productive, produce, and pay off debt.
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Correct. And there's a jubilee every seven years for the land itself. Yep. And its production.
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These are one of the reasons they were taken into captivity because they weren't keeping these. And, a lot of and that's why I think this is a a Pharisee deal to pull the book from the canon because it was in their face on almost everything, including the money system.
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Yeah. Correct. But I don't think I don't think everything
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that they wanted to do. I yield.
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Alright. I got a question. How would how would you eliminate all taxes if you had that system? Jubilee. I don't understand. How would the government pay for itself?
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Well, essentially, you become the government. The you know, in Jubilees, there is no there is no government. It's it's God based. Right? The theocracy. I had this all right. Well, that's the own there is no Cain. There is there is no like like, when they wanted a king, Samuel told them this is what God says is gonna happen to you. You're gonna be taxed. Your sons are gonna be taken to war, etcetera, etcetera.
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Yeah.
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And his word remains truth, and we're seeing it, and we're living it.
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That's true. Yeah. But I gotta I gotta keep on authority,
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to do anything in that regard.
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My model
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field. My model says no taxation. I gotta have a I gotta have a government that has no taxation, So I gotta fund the government with interest on the mortgages because we need the money. We need the loans so we can build our houses.
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What happened to the time where, you paid for your own wood, you know, at the sawmill, and then your neighbors come over and help to raise the building?
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Yeah. That that's that was still going on in the mid eighteen fifties, housing barn raisings. Uh-huh. The armies do that. The men knights do that. I mean, this is closer again to a biblical system, and if we could incorporate that and eliminate the government as we go I agree, Samuel. Goal in mind government. You know?
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Do do they help you to raise anything?
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No. We're we're hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt according to some people. You're never gonna pay that bet. And a note is a promise to pay. It's not a debt forgiveness.
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I agree.
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And there's your money. There's your currency. Let's put it the right way.
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I agree with Dave when he says it's just energy, and it matters not where the energy comes from. Your neighbor's labor in helping you to raise a
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building? And you don't you A cherry, if I may. Okay. You you gotta start somewhere. You know, if you don't have the money to build a house, what are you gonna do? Live in a hole?
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Oh, no. What I'm saying is that you barter with the local sawmill. First of all, get your wood.
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Well
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in. I mean, that While you're building your house, where are you gonna live?
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What?
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Where do you live while you're building your house? Just outside?
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I don't know. There's such a thing as a tent. My mom and dad Well They're outbuilding. Why they built this one? You gotta buy a tent. Wasn't it wasn't posh. You know? It it took a little effort and extra time to to provide meals, you know, and bathing and all that.
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And most most of the costs in building a house go to the government and interest. Bottom line.
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Thank you. Well, yeah. And because I mean And the biggest proceeds
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and the biggest proceeds to reserve. And the biggest proceeds Well, that is that the government gets is from war. Yes. War. Unsanctioned war.
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I agree. I I don't disagree with that.
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You know what, Eric, you are you said? He said Nope. The Federal Reserve isn't all bad. We gotta take it over.
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Yeah. So It's a Pharisee system. It's no different than what they were doing in the temple. That's what it is. And that's why they had to get rid rid of the book of Jubilees.
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I believe in the type value of money, but we need to have an a reasonable amount of interest that's regulated by the government or the people.
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Interest interest at all.
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Well, then you can't you can't Yeah. That that doesn't mean
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Usury is not interest. It's excessive interest. There has That's what you mean. If somebody lends you money, they gotta get paid for it, you know, not just back what they gave you. They gotta make something on it. I don't know.
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I gave my children money and didn't expect extra That doesn't no. That that you're a mother, not your children. My sister. A banker. Family, and I've done it for my neighbors. Never expected anything extra in return. Well Why is that a problem? Why does everybody expect interest for doing a good deed? That's not a problem. Have to have a return.
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You have to have a return on your money. That's what investors do. Instead of business instead of being neighborly.
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Well, yeah. We're talking about
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we're talking about an economic model for the government, not amongst neighbors.
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Why do we need a government?
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Well, that's another story.
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When the scripture already tells us how to deal with each other, and interest is not even part of the plan.
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I know. I I understand what you're saying, but right now we have a government people build their own homes two hundred years ago.
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Was there interest charged back then? No. Because there was no bank and anyway, I yield. It really kinda irritates me because I don't mind helping others. And if it comes I give what I can without any return at all. If it doesn't come back to me, I'm okay with that. And if it does, hallelujah.
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But I'm not sure why part of the deal
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because that just seems wrong to me.
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The interest is a way of of of analyzing
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opportunity. I yield.
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It's a way of analyzing opportunity. Because anytime you, embark on an enterprise, you have costs, and you have to analyze what are what is the opportunity cost. What do I lose versus what do I gain? Do I make any money, or do I lose money? You can't you're not an empty I mean, you you're not you don't have money to loan to everybody. You can only do that to your friends and family, to people that, you know, are dear to you without interest. When it's when it's out there in the real world and in the government, you've gotta have interest. It's the time value of money. Otherwise, it just puts a is a slave to the lender.
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Never be a borrower. And that needs to be something that, Americans live by. That's your point. You know, they could just pay for it their own self.
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That's your point. Road.
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And the borrowing is the problem. And if you all can't do that, because the borrowing is what builds the business for the lender. And soon, they will be your controller. And not just yours, but everybody's.
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That's how it is now.
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Correct. And what Sherry, do you buy food in a grocery store? Say it again, please. Do you shop in a grocery store?
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I do.
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Do you think there's interest in there? No. You think they just give you food for free? Problem with people making money
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to, provide food. Right. That's interest. But they're providing no. No. It is Yes. It is. Money. If you think purchasing product, what are you purchasing with a loan of money? There's no product there.
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You have to work to make the money that you buy that product with, and the company that's selling you that product is making interest off of what you just bought because they're not selling it to you for the price they paid for it.
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I do not disagree with that. I'm talking about the banking system, which is wholly different
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from, Yeah. Well, guess what? Everybody can't have a neighbor like you or a mom like you that's gonna give them all this money to do everything they need to do with Well, don't think I just give it away for Well, you just said you did.
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No. What I You did? They're no. I just don't foolishly give them things
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that, they're not gonna use it. Now we're talking about being foolish?
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Well, yeah. And foolishness is taking out a loan for 300% interest. You don't call that Of course it is.
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That's usury. That's usury. That's not what he's talking about. 300% interest.
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Saying is you you don't count on the government government in that regard. That's all I'm saying. We can do it amongst ourselves, and that should be sufficient.
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One of the biggest problems that we've we've allowed the government to get so damn big, we we can't just extinguish it overnight, but part of a a a sound plan to me would be it slowly gets strangled to death over time. And like like right now, Dave, you're mentioning, you know, if you go to the store and you buy that food, think about how much taxes on there to everybody who's put that piece of food in that store from the government and restrictions and everything else and quality of it. It's all screwed up because of the government.
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Because of the bankers that control the government.
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Yes. And it's a it's a Pharisee system.
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We need to control the government. We want to be the bank. If I'm gonna play the mosque, let me be the banker.
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That's why Jubilees worked because everything was based on the land. Everything we have in our homes and we drive around in came from the land. And we don't own it in this country anymore. They do.
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And we came from the land. That's what we leave out of it.
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We're so stuck on thinking like they think that you got to go to the Lord and and see the difference on what was done. And then maybe we have a chance to begin to implement systems that would slowly eliminate that government and establish sound policies that are in our neighborhoods.
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Okay. Ezra chapter seven verse 24. Also, we certify you at touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, or ministers of this house of God. It shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom upon them. So I see what I think is that we need a system that eliminates all taxation and gets our government out of debt away from these bankers.
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Yeah. Yeah. Bankers are the are a big problem. There's I mean, they're the root of it.
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No doubt. And the bankers are the government. We gotta get rid of that word government. We don't want government. That's mind control. We supposed to control our own minds, self governing. We're supposed to control the minds of our public servants. We gotta get back to basics.
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Yeah. So go check out theusdebtclock.org and click that button in the upper right hand corner. And, also, if you look on the clock, it'll tell you the savings per adult per year. And the way I look at it, we would be saving about $40,000 per person per year if this was put into, effect immediately. It's just, you know, approximation. Yeah.
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No. I like it. I'm just saying that, look into Jubilees and that the system that they were under and why and how it worked. It I mean, modern economists are are still used Jubilees as a way for there to be more equality in how things are are run-in the economic system. I don't think you we should overlook it. That's all I'm saying.
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Yep. Try to incorporate it into what I'm trying to develop here. Let's see. It's a government see, right now, the bankers of the bank. If the government was the bank, would they need any taxes? No. Banks don't need taxes. Be the bank.
[04:27:20] Unknown:
Why why do you want a third party in that regard?
[04:27:25] Unknown:
We would be the bank. We want local control. We wanna be the bank and audit the bank. We wanna be the bank. If you accept that, the government as,
[04:27:35] Unknown:
formed by the people. But as it stands right now, they're a corporation. No difference. You want McDonald's running your life?
[04:27:44] Unknown:
We're gonna be McDonald's. We're gonna be the bank. Do you think do you think they're gonna, do you think we're not gonna get any resistance with this? We might lose our heads.
[04:27:56] Unknown:
Of course, they're gonna give you resistance to make you think that that's what you want. I'm telling you, you do not want the government in control as a bank in your life.
[04:28:11] Unknown:
Well, tell me how you can run the cover government with no debt and no taxes then.
[04:28:17] Unknown:
Go home. Well, that's one solution. There. Did did you, have any loss when the federal government was shut down?
[04:28:29] Unknown:
Some people did, but I didn't.
[04:28:31] Unknown:
Say it again.
[04:28:33] Unknown:
Some people did, but I didn't.
[04:28:36] Unknown:
Okay. So how much does the government provide for you that you wanna give them all this power?
[04:28:44] Unknown:
No. It's taken away power. Because right now, the bankers of the government it. You're shifting it. That's all. I'm shifting it from the bankers to us.
[04:28:57] Unknown:
Yeah. But you're presuming that the government is us. And it
[04:29:02] Unknown:
is That's part of the plan. I'm not presuming. I'm saying that's part of the action plan. We have a right to audit the bank. We have right to, the officers in the bank because the bank's gonna be us in the government. When I was in high school, I don't know what I got. I got this award. I was a banker for a day, and they sent me to a bank. I met the president of the bank, shook his hand, looked around in his office. He had all these regulations and law books in his office. I asked him, do you read all this stuff? He shook his trunk, his shoulders, and walked out of the office and had me sit in his chair, And he came back an hour later, and it was time for me to go home. That's ridiculous.
[04:29:52] Unknown:
Take a mortal man. What? Put him in control. Watch him become a god.
[04:30:01] Unknown:
What year was that, please, if you don't mind me asking?
[04:30:06] Unknown:
Probably around 1970 or something like that.
[04:30:12] Unknown:
Well, so it was before they closed the gold window. Correct? And
[04:30:22] Unknown:
I can't remember those dates, but that's why I say I feel totally inadequate for this. But somebody's gotta bring it to the forefront. I don't see it really brought there in the discussion yet. I think we've danced around it, but I think we need to bring it out and, see what happens. I'm interested in that Harvard Van Dyke creating currency book that Dave mentioned. Dave, you know how to get that?
[04:30:52] Unknown:
Well, I mentioned it here a while back, and there's a website. It's called 4cornersdoctrine.wordpress.com. And there was a Hartford Van Dyke, link that you clicked on, and all of his books were there. And somebody went there from here and said it was they were the links were there, but they were all empty. And I was on a call with the guy who created that website probably, I don't know, maybe five or six months ago. And, I told him that, and he clicked on it, and then he said it's all still there. So is the number four is is the number four spelled out? Yep. The numeral four Oh. Cornersdoctrine.wordpress.com. Okay. Look up Hartford Van Dyke.
[04:31:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[04:31:51] Unknown:
And it's creating currencies for local communities. He also wrote Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. I've read that. Yeah. And Hartford Van Dyke wrote that, and he signed it. His, pen name was the backwards date of, Pearl Harbor because he was there when it happened. And his father discovered these Japanese men in their homes planning Pearl Harbor while he was in the living room selling their wives' pots and pans.
[04:32:31] Unknown:
David, another way to finance a home, let's say, something like that? Mhmm. You look for private money. Go out Right. Put an ad in the paper. Say, you know, I'm I've got the need, and I I I prefer not to get into thirty year mortgage and, you know, whatever and, look for private money.
[04:32:53] Unknown:
Oh, that'll be interesting. Involved.
[04:32:56] Unknown:
What? Another thing. I'm sorry. Go ahead. There'll be interest involved.
[04:33:01] Unknown:
Well, yeah, you could even state how much you're willing to pay because that's what you're gonna be good for and not what what what does I mean, look what the system did because they're so greedy. How the the debt they put on children now for for loans for education. Right. And they got a monopoly on that baby. Education. Yeah. We're gonna brainwash you. You're gonna be dumber than dirt. And we're gonna do we're gonna charge you to the Hilton.
[04:33:32] Unknown:
Right? Turn you into a lab rat.
[04:33:37] Unknown:
Maybe Not only not only that. If if we establish a public bank, we'll be able to change the way interest is calculated. Because right now, it's like compound interest and all of your interest is paid up in the first five or seven years before you even start paying a lot of your principal. You know? Right. We could change that formula,
[04:33:57] Unknown:
and that'd be a big help right there. Right.
[04:34:00] Unknown:
Because that's absorbing it. That's crazy. So what we're doing is we're we're cutting out usury. We're having interest, reasonable interest, so it'll function, but we're gonna get rid of the usury and rid of the taxation. And the country will be out of debt. A lot of the people will be out of debt. No taxation. To me, that's the rules that we gotta use, the principles that we have to use to establish what we wanna do. So, Eric, who are you?
[04:34:35] Unknown:
Another thing that, is intriguing to me is, I heard a statistic on The Philippines. Supposedly, 86% of the population doesn't have a bank account. So, obviously, they don't have thirty year loans. How are they financing their homes? They're good And they're good at through right now.
[04:34:59] Unknown:
Samuel, right now, there's a million people displaced from a typhoon that hit, Cebu, one of the big islands in, The Philippines, because they their houses are shit.
[04:35:18] Unknown:
Even my buddy.
[04:35:20] Unknown:
Even my my mother guys might know Don from this call, in Northern Michigan. He married a Filipina, and he built them a home, a block home because their home was destroyed by a freaking, you know, typhoon. And, most people, yeah, they may not have bank accounts, but they don't have homes like we have.
[04:35:43] Unknown:
Exactly. They're they're shantytowns.
[04:35:46] Unknown:
Yes. That's right. But I don't wanna live like that. I mean, I I I'm glad I was able to, you know, get a mortgage to buy a home because I couldn't afford to build it myself or, you know, I didn't have the money to do. I didn't have the skills to do, you know, we've had five homes that we bought and and paid for and sold. And and, you know, we knew about the we learned about the usury and, the I forget what you call it. You buy it down. You know, you pay the you make double payments and pay the principal with a whole check, and, you know, you can cut that time in half or more by not, you know what do they call it?
I just had it, and it slipped away again. But, anyway, there's ways to get around those 300% interest rates. You know, when you pay off a house, you know, you don't pay it off in thirty years. You pay it off a lot sooner by, you know, doubling up on payments and stuff. Most people aren't in their house for more than seven. And that that's what they say.
[04:37:02] Unknown:
Correct. And But I've been in two houses for fifteen. They wanna do is a fifty year mortgage.
[04:37:08] Unknown:
Yeah. That's what Trump wants. Unbelievable. It's just a What a big What a freaking pig.
[04:37:17] Unknown:
Oh, do you think that comes from him or the bankers?
[04:37:20] Unknown:
Well, he's he's spewing it. He's the front man telling us. That's right. He's just the front man. He's the front man. He's just as bad, just as culpable. He's got that little knee pillow. Agree with that. We gotta get to the root of the problem. He's got the the little knee pillow when Satan Yahoo comes to visit. He's on his knees in front of him. You know And one of his favorite presidents is Lincoln. Us Jesus. Yeah. Exactly. So what a joke. How many how many white principles did did Lincoln murder 700,000 white Christian Americans. That was the precursor to the Bolshevik revolution.
Then they went and slaughtered two two million white Christian Armenians, then they went and slaughtered 60,000,000 white Christian, Russians. And then they had World War one and World War two, and we got about 80,000,000 white Christians that got slaughtered in that. And then they started killing the brown people after that. They didn't bring in a mirror to kill us. And it was all done on borrowed money. Oh, right. Exactly.
[04:38:29] Unknown:
The bankers.
[04:38:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't care who Better believe it's the bankers. Is. The bankers are still doing it. And it then there's still the government.
[04:38:41] Unknown:
Synagogue of Satan.
[04:38:43] Unknown:
That's right. Still killing. You are of your father, Satan. Europeans.
[04:38:50] Unknown:
So they're still killing the Christians. It hadn't changed, Dave. Nothing new under the sun.
[04:39:00] Unknown:
Yeah. In general, we should just be listening to God a lot more and interest, if you wanna pay it, I think is really allowed in the Bible, but you've got to be careful about how this is done, and putting mammon before God is is where it really starts to kill a society. I will. It loses its justice.
[04:39:27] Unknown:
To provide.
[04:39:28] Unknown:
Once it starts losing its justice and fairness, you know, Katie bar the door. Then right now, we're living in an absolutely lawless country.
[04:39:40] Unknown:
Yeah. So I I think this is a step doctrine
[04:39:43] Unknown:
dictates a contract. And if you contract, then you pay your contract. You keep your word. And and, the almighty has no problem with you making a contract, but he will also warn you, be careful what you ask for, especially from a third party, and I yield.
[04:40:06] Unknown:
It's it's really not fair right now with the property taxes the way they are, but I I I met a black lady in Savannah. She had a triplex, and she paid zero property taxes, and she wasn't no whiz like Steve Emerson. Not only that, she got the city of Savannah to work on her house for free and fix it up. Talk about inequitable situations. You know?
[04:40:34] Unknown:
And then I found She did she did she clue you in on her secret? How did she do that?
[04:40:43] Unknown:
I don't know, man.
[04:40:46] Unknown:
But, also, I saw Do you have a pee pillow?
[04:40:51] Unknown:
I saw a mansion.
[04:40:53] Unknown:
Whose benefits do you ask for?
[04:40:58] Unknown:
That's right. I saw a mansion, but it was old and get run down. But I could not locate that property and the property record cards for the life of me. I think it was totally off the books. Now that lady's property was on the books. She had a property record card. You could see I verified it. No property tax on it. But the other mansion was totally wouldn't even know. I couldn't find it in the in the record cards. Yeah. So there's a lot of stuff we don't know about, but, I don't know. The working man does all the work, and the rest of them enjoy the fruits of our labor.
So
[04:41:45] Unknown:
that's where we work. Do not consent anymore. Yeah. We it's incumbent on us to stop the harm being done.
[04:42:02] Unknown:
Yep.
[04:42:05] Unknown:
Our government is in in total contradiction with its own self. It it basically in short, the government says it supports private lending, but it doesn't like competing with it. So instead of supporting it like they should and making it even better for lending, they oppose it through legislation.
[04:42:29] Unknown:
The government wants to be They've blown up in The Caribbean saying that they're bringing drugs in. That's competition to them. I yield.
[04:42:39] Unknown:
And the government wants to be everything except the bank.
[04:42:47] Unknown:
They already are the bank.
[04:42:51] Unknown:
Actually, the bank is the government that. They already are the bank. No. The bank is the government. The bank is the hidden government. What you said? No. You said the no. It's the opposite. The government
[04:43:10] Unknown:
Is that what you're pointing out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I just call them synonymous. They're one in the same.
[04:43:22] Unknown:
When when when Lincoln want to kill people, he had to float all these bonds to to raise the money. So what he did is because at the time, we had a state banking system. So he made it 1010% more expensive, to get your state bank money over the national money where he was pushing his bonds, and he put something like 2,500 agents out to sell this system. I mean, it this guy was the antichrist. He really was. Yeah.
[04:43:59] Unknown:
He was a little doubtful. You know, I I heard what you were saying about it, and I looked I found a website. There's he had the ten forty bonds, but he also had about four or five other bonds too. Oh, yeah.
[04:44:11] Unknown:
Yeah. You bet he did. And and then the the greenbacks created all the inflation because they weren't backed by anything, gold or silver. Right? So they traded, like, 25% inflation on top of it. But it was a small part. It was more like 15 to 20% of the money raised. The rest of it was in all these bond schemes and the elimination of the state banks for a federal system. Mhmm. The first IRS, the first income tax on everybody, not just employees of the federal government, everybody.
[04:44:55] Unknown:
I wanna I wanna get that, where where I think you used AI to get that answer. Right? But we need to we need to find the source. Right?
[04:45:06] Unknown:
Well, the original source that I got it out of and got me interested in looking more is the book of the hundreds.
[04:45:13] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:45:14] Unknown:
They talk about his bonds and and and it's in in there, and that book is all footnoted with sources. Printed it I printed it out, but I still haven't had a chance to read it. I started reading it a long time ago. But All you have to do is go to page two, and you look at the money the government made on each war it ran.
[04:45:37] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[04:45:46] Unknown:
Like every war, they they went from under a million before the war of eighteen twelve, and then it started to spike, and it spiked and it spiked everywhere thereafter. And then you've got all these spikes already, then when you hit World War three or two, you still hit a a 3000% spike. Even with all that additional stuff ahead of it, that's how much extra money the federal government made. 3000% more than it had prior to the war. That federal government got so powerful and strove so strong. We we hung ourselves with bigger and bigger federal government.
They had the money to implement all this crap.
[04:46:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm looking at page two.
[04:46:41] Unknown:
I'm looking on page two right now. I see the percentage increase, annual increase of, the annual receipts.
[04:46:50] Unknown:
Yep. Look where they start out up to $18.12. It was under a million dollars.
[04:47:02] Unknown:
Yeah. 869,000.
[04:47:07] Unknown:
Yeah. So in that book, there there's was the first indication that, Lincoln started the bond scheme and created the inflation with the greenback. Of course, there's there's sources. If you look throughout that book, you'll see everything numbered. And at the bottom of the page, there'll be a backup source for their statements.
[04:47:43] Unknown:
It's funny. You know, we we we we study and we learn stuff, and then we think about it. We come back later and look at it again with some more knowledge and go, wow. It's even more facets to it than I thought the first time.
[04:47:59] Unknown:
Well, it's like like Roger never knew that, they raised bonds, and that was 75% of of the money raising was done through bonds. At least 75, maybe more. The greenback was the rest and the income tax. That was a biggie, actually. The income tax is a big chunk too because they nailed everybody, and they did it it was on income from land or everything was I mean, why the why the North supported that war just blows me away.
[04:48:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I remember when I was a kid, I had these, for Christmas, I got these toy soldiers, and that was the blue versus the gray. And we had round cannons that would suit little ball cannonballs, and we had the elongated cans. This was some neat toys now. And I was on the blue side, man. I lived in Pennsylvania back then too. You know? But then, like, once in a while, I would I would trade sides and play the other guys. You know? Little things like that make an impression on you. Don't forget. And if you ever been to Gettysburg, that'll make you cry.
[04:49:23] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:49:29] Unknown:
Yep. Well, there's a lot to learn, a lot to read, and we all gotta make a living in the meantime. I I gotta work. So I just thought I would introduce it. I was gonna do it today, but I didn't know how to get in. I forgot about star six. I just pressed 941. I thought I'd raise my hand. That'd be good enough.
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Okay. George.
[04:49:53] Unknown:
Jean, you just mentioned, the Gettysburg address or Gettysburg. You guys remember Andy Vashago? He was the guy that was in project Pegasus, in the being teleported as a second or third grader around the country, and he was the kid. There's photographic evidence of him at the Gettysburg address, wearing dark sunglasses, and he's wearing shoes that are like, you know, adult shoes. He was a second grader, and and he was wearing this coat. He was wearing clothes of an old man, and it was, like, what, November 19 or something. It was cold, and he said he was just on, I was flipping through on, alt media the other day.
It's a phone number you call, and there's 15 you can click on 15 different shows. Clyde Lewis, Ground 0. I don't know if you guys know who he is. They were playing some kinda, commercial free, old episode that Clyde had from the '20 like, before 2015, I think. It might have been 2014 or '15. And Andy was running for president in 2016. And, he had him on. It was that show or one of those shows from then. And I thought it was live, and I had just was on an RBN show last Sunday. And we were talking about this guy, Andy Vashago, because for time travel and and all that and, Tesla.
And then all of a sudden, I I heard him on that Clyde Lewis show, and it was like, wow. It brought back a lot of neat memories of him talking about how he got time traveled around the country.
[04:51:54] Unknown:
And that's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales for the Sabadell edition. I thought I'd let it ring a little longer because, well, we're not gonna have a show tomorrow, and they were talking about interesting things. So I figured I'd leave the leave the stream running for a while. It catches here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern at least on eurofoolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, and, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you so much for joining us today. They are still talking in the after show, so go to the matrixdocs.com and join us using free conference call. Ciao.
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[04:52:57] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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[00:02:22] Unknown:
Well, alrighty. And we we'd like to change it enough that we'll get out of bed on on the weekend on Saturday and come do a radio show in case there's any new folks that couldn't join us during the week that can on Saturday. We'd like to answer your questions. Good morning. Roger Sales Radio Ranch, Saturday edition. November 22, very significant day, and I think we have a very abbreviated list of helpers here today. Very abbreviated. Is that correct, Paul? I think it is. Right?
[00:02:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Eurofolk radio dot com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Global Voice Radio Network, that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Homenetwork.tv, and freedomnation.tv, go live tv, and stream life.tube. They are not with us today, but, we are on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net, which is happy for sure. I love it. That's it. Our website, thematrixstocks.com, and that's where you find all the good stuff.
[00:03:31] Unknown:
Well, it may be alright. You the last few Saturdays, we've had exemplary shows, I thought, with, folks that don't join us during the week because they can't. Come on. Tom was there last week, and we had a good show. And if I remember correctly, the Saturday show before that was, in my eyes, very good. I'm a, you know, I kinda critique these things. You know, when you had a good show, and we've had some good ones lately. Had a number of new new folks lately and maybe the same today. Don't know. But, anyway, shows for use for people that wanna get out from under the burden of, well, shall I say Jewish slavery? That's what it is.
And, we'd love to help you and thumb your nose at them and go. So, if there's any of you like that, it's a good time to step forward and, or you might be too shy here at the very start, Paul. They might be too shy. They might wanna see what goes on here before they stick their toe in the big pool. So whenever you do, just star six and and hey, Roger. And got a question or comment or something. Love to meet you. I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions, like, where are you in the country and, how'd you find us? Those kind of things which interest me.
And, so, anyway, happy Saturday, Paul. I guess you sent me an email last night. We had a, I I was not in attendance. I left a little early yesterday. Man, y'all wow. Yeah. Just for hours hours you'd go on. And, they had a a little makeshift, what do they call those? A mock trial? A little mock trial yesterday like in law school. Not quite like in law school, but kinda. And, the, there there was one Ferris that was, the the defendant. He didn't get a chance to say anything, but, it came to a point that, man, it's just overwhelming. Ferris is the people just people on the board here, the regulars just don't like your ass. And I have a very, I it really puts me in a very, very precipitous position in the middle because I'm really a free speech guy. I want you if you got something to say to come on, but you always come on and blow it. I mean, every time. So I I I I yeah. It's the most contentious thing that I've seen in all my years of broadcasting is Farris.
K?
[00:06:13] Unknown:
Well, I did because he wasn't here. I did enter a proxy vote of yes for him, but then again, I voted no, so that negated that. So I see. But I I didn't just enter a proxy vote for him. So he bled not guilty? He didn't have a chance to plead. He wasn't here. So I bled not guilty for him. Well, that's what I mean. You were a proxy not guilty.
[00:06:41] Unknown:
And, Farris, if you do, you don't very rarely do you ever have anything to add to the constituency of what we do around here. Something we're talking about true. Yeah. You may in just a second, please.
[00:06:56] Unknown:
And it was straight to 12.
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Just straight to 12,
[00:07:01] Unknown:
at least. Okay. Anyway, it was severely you were severely downvoted that people just they don't like you coming in and disrupting our program, Farris. I have a place of warm I have a warm spot in my heart for you because I think all dissenting opinions need to be listened to. I just went through something like this with these yahoos down here, the Israeli firsters. So, you've got a little bit of my empathy here, Farris, but you keep destroying it. Okay. So it's something in your defense.
[00:07:36] Unknown:
So was Jesus Christ, voted down by everyone. You say something. Don't even
[00:07:42] Unknown:
think about it.
[00:07:43] Unknown:
I didn't compare myself. Why don't you be quiet for a minute and let me speak?
[00:07:49] Unknown:
Well, you know how that works out when you tell people to be quiet. I hear you. Don't you?
[00:07:54] Unknown:
Fair enough. You're your own worst. You're your own worst enemy. Now Paul, let him know here first. Let's see. Just how far, just how far he goes over the line. Okay. We can't all talk at once, Ferris. I think you've learned you're a Mensa guy. You should have learned by now we all can't talk at once. Okay. Now I'm gonna turn it over to you, and I want you to say your piece.
[00:08:20] Unknown:
Yeah. The most valuable thing I can offer today is the speech to the Dearborn, Michigan city council dated November 18. If you go to your YouTube on your TV and you type in this, first name, Jake, and I'll give you the last name in a minute. But he's a man who stepped up to the Muslims in the different city council and talked for all of his three minutes with all of the confidence and eloquence of of, the great orders, Cicero, we explained why Muslims in Dearborn who have just in this country, should get the f out. Now let me give you his name just so that you might, have an opportunity to hear the greatest thing that's now recorded YouTubes.
Now I have trouble remembering this guy's last name. First name, Jake. And when the city councilman calls on, his formal name is Edward. So let me see if this might be oh, yes. I have it for you. It is Lang, spelled l as in lesbian, a n g. G. Lang. And if you go to YouTube and type in the following words, Jake Lang, get the fuck out. You this recording. And you will be amazed if this you can see you're you're you're a great communicator, and you will be in awe of this example, and you will learn from this, young man who was incarcerated in Washington DC as a j sixer for a year, took his freedom through solitary confinement because he was a a real man. He went down there to support his president.
And now he's telling the all the Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan to get the fuck out. And it's only three minutes, so don't deny this, don't deny your this opportunity to hear Jake Lang, youtube.com on your TV.
[00:11:02] Unknown:
I saw part of this. Saw part of it on some clip. You don't wanna miss it's only a it's only,
[00:11:10] Unknown:
it's only a three minute speech. There are some partials out there. You wanna avoid the partial videos. You wanna get the entire video because it's always a better look. And this is this is a this is a speech that has spurred, men to action. And and it will probably bring about a civil strife and a war in that town. And, hopefully, it will spread throughout the country so that we can fight. We now have an opportunity to fight the war that must be fight. Some things are worth dying for. And one is The United States Of America. And this kid let leads the charge. The views on it, I when I saw it, there were 684 views in the morning. I looked that night, and it was 17,000.
I looked last night, and it was 70,000. So this thing is going like wildfire. Catch it if you can and yield.
[00:12:06] Unknown:
Okay. Ferris, I want you to apologize to your friend. You brought Pam, I think, yesterday then. But and I hope I don't know if she's with us today or not, but I hope she understood and you informed her that you were, well, a controversial character to some extent around here. K? Because I don't want her to think like we act every we don't treat anybody, Ferris, like we treat you. Okay? I mean, really. And it's just because of whatever it is in your personality that well, we got a little sandpaper action going on. It's like you great people, like number extra large sandpaper.
So anyway, that was not bad. Totally awful, well, you know, but it's alright. I understand it's topical. So okay. Thank you. You've minded your p's and q's. Go ahead. He didn't hear that.
[00:12:55] Unknown:
He didn't hear that because the moment he said I yield, he left.
[00:13:00] Unknown:
So he didn't he didn't hear that, but I was ready to move him to a neutered room with the third f bomb, and I was waiting for it. So But just an unusual character. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Here, the the dialectic of Farris is lady Linda. Where's lady Linda been? We hadn't seen or heard from her in a couple of weeks. She's the one that pointed him over here and then had to apologize profusely because her husband doesn't even want him coming around their house anymore. So, as I said, Ferris is a controversial character. I've never seen anyone disrupt a a broadcast program like this guy does.
So anyway Well, well, he's he's back now. And Okay. Well, anyway, there you said you were on your p's and q's, and you didn't thanks for the information. We've seen the incident. And, yeah, very courageous to get up there in front of them. We don't as much battle the Muslims around here as we do the Jews. Okay? And the feds. So Farish, we can't both talk at the same time. Mister okay? So, anyway, that's, that's my read on that. So so I don't wanna spend the whole show on Ferris. Okay? I just wanna mention nobody else is out front, and this is a controversial thing. And and and and Paul did a little little extra judicial work after the show yesterday and sent the recording to me. So it was interesting.
You know? Ferris, I'm in your I'm one of the only ones around here that's in your corner, buddy, to some extent. Okay? So just mind your p's and q's.
[00:14:43] Unknown:
When when you called him out yesterday and gave him the floor, all of my moderators left. Mark was in here, and he hung up. And I don't know who else left the program when I'm curious to understand. You actually called on him. When you come on, some of our key people just leave.
[00:15:05] Unknown:
That's the umbrage that they have for you with all your crap that you've brought us. So, you really put me in a bad position, Farris. You really did. He keeps moving himself out of Room 1.
[00:15:20] Unknown:
Next time I have to move you, Ferris, I'm gonna move you to another state. Okay?
[00:15:25] Unknown:
Alright. Next time I have to move you back to Room 1, I'm gonna move you to another state. We may have new people listening here, and we're having to put up with this shit, and they're going, what the hell is this? So just understand, this is a very unusual guy, and he has created a very unusual situation. And, he just offends people. Okay? And he seems to revel in it. So anyway
[00:15:52] Unknown:
Alright. You are welcome to listen. This morning. You're welcome to listen to the program. We're on Global Voice Network. We're on Eurofolk Radio. We're on Rumble. There's plenty of opportunity for you to listen to the program. But people don't like it when you when you speak. So So please knock it off. Let's try and turn turn Let's make lemonade out of lens. Forward. Okay. We can go go somewhere.
[00:16:21] Unknown:
So are there any of our, folks that are new wanting to ask a question about the normal things we do around here? We can take the show and get it off on a little more positive direction, please? I mean, I got out of bed on a Saturday morning to come do this. Nobody? Well, how many folks we got on the board there this morning, Paul? 38. Okay. Well, yes. Yes. There's a female. Yes, ma'am. This is Alma here from New Jersey. Hey, Alma. How are you doing, babe?
[00:16:57] Unknown:
I am well. Thank you so much. How are you guys doing?
[00:17:00] Unknown:
Pretty good. There's a little thing here with this guy that's to the north of you up, a bit. And he's just, he's an unusual situation, and I hate it. I don't know how to deal with it, honestly. It it kind of perplexes me. Anyway, let's get over to you because there's people like you that the show's about, not him. Because you're new. You're you were a Mexican national, you naturalized, you got your husband and your family here, you stumbled on to my name in a in a in some kind of symposium. Somebody mentioned it to you. You went out diligently and tracked it down, and you found us.
And and we love that, Alma.
[00:17:44] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. I I have a comment and a couple of questions. So I am still receiving the note I mean, the green papers for the notices that I send out for myself, my husband, my two kids. Mhmm. And I received back from let's see. It's from because I'm New Jersey. Right? So from the state of the Department of Treasury, because I notified them. I notified, like, 16 different places.
[00:18:13] Unknown:
Okay. Well and and
[00:18:16] Unknown:
and I
[00:18:17] Unknown:
wish we'd you'd ask us. We could've saved you a little money on that, but go ahead. So the tray Department of the Treasury of New Jersey wrote you back?
[00:18:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they didn't wrote back to me. They they just send me the whatever I sent to them, you know, the notice and with the copy that I sent to the secretary of state, and they just send it back, but with a sticky note, that says we do not handle this type of information in this office. And it was only for both of my kids. So my cousin and I have not been returned.
[00:18:55] Unknown:
Okay. Well, they're not they're right. What you'd wanna notify in New Jersey is not the treasurer. I didn't know each state has a treasury. I guess they do. But you'd wanna notify the taxing authority of New Jersey. And what we've kind of come to the conclusion conclusion of is that you when you're doing your notices and you send a notice IRS that you're leaving their little wonderful little family, and then the same time you do that CC thing for the state of New Jersey taxing authority, and then they'll see that you've notified the IRS. And I think that might save us some grief. It's just another it's one of those things. This process, Alma, we used to just have people send the affidavit in to for the passport office.
And that's where you did it for first few years. And then that situation came up and we had to rethink it and we altered it. We send the cold affidavit to the secretary of state first and how you do these cc's and how you had them with those phrases that are important and all that. It's just been a process that we've developed over all these years. So that's the latest wrinkle is on the notification to IRS. You'd cc the state taxing authority, New Jersey taxing, whatever. And I think that might help us out a bit. So, yes, you've been, for anybody else, if you're listening to Almond, I'm gonna use you to go to school for these folks.
There's a thing at the post office called a FIRM book, f I r m. I'd never heard of it before. Hell, I used to work for Pitney Bowes, the postal people. I'd never heard of that. You can ask the people at the post office. And instead of all those, what are those return receipt cost? 10 or $11 a piece now. Right? Something like that. It used to be $2. You know? Well, you you instead of doing all those individually, you can incorporate them all into this firm book, and they kinda group do them for you is my understanding. If for anybody else that's out there that's gonna approach doing this instead of spending what copious amounts of money, $10.10, $11 a piece on the green certified redeem return receipt requested.
You can do it all through this firm book. You can save yourself probably with a situation like yours with children, husband, and wife. You can probably save yourself a a a nice little pile of chains there and doing it that way. Anyway, Alma, you did it the other way and just getting them back and you got this letter back. It's meaningless from the treasury because they're right. They don't have anything to do with that. K? So, what else can we, help you with in your process here?
[00:21:46] Unknown:
Okay. Now the question is about the driver's life driver's license and the plates on the car. Like like because soon, it will be the time to renew the, registration and then my driver's license and my husband's, I think, is good for another two years. So what do we do with that? Do we wait until they expires and then we let it go? Or how would that work?
[00:22:13] Unknown:
You know, this is how let me ask you this question. With your newfound freedom, how far do you wanna press it? Do you wanna accept what you got, or you wanna continue to press it along these lines? And that's what you're doing. I'm not telling you not to do it. K? But the tag and the driver's license and all that, because that opens you up potentially for some problems. I'm not saying you'll have them. You may not. I'm not sure how friendly New Jersey is for us, but Joe may Joe up there in Northern New Jersey may have set a precedent for you.
[00:22:50] Unknown:
I can speak on that. So okay. What what what what I can speak on that. Was that When you get the driver's license, you're entering into an adhesion contract. And even if you don't renew your driver's license, the contract is still understood, presumed to be enforced. And when you register a motor vehicle, you transfer ownership over to the state and that transfer doesn't expire and revert back to you if you let the registration lapse. The only thing they do is throw another charge on you driving after suspended registration or expired registration. They turn it into a crime.
Depend just decide what hill you're gonna die on. And if renewing your driver's license and renewing your license plates on your car, as long as it's inspectable and it's otherwise operable within the confines of man's law, go ahead and do that. It will save you a ton of trouble. You will sleep well at night. And if push comes to shove and they do try to violate your rights, you have your national status so you can address that in court and get your life back, hopefully.
[00:24:07] Unknown:
Alma, this is one of the really sticky areas of this because of local jurisdiction and policemen that don't have any idea what you're talking about, and they think they own everybody and everything, and they don't like you telling them law stuff. So I can't tell you, nobody can, which decision to make, but I can show you the other side. Sometimes people keep their driver's license because your driver's license really is for driving and you're you're technically driving in commerce. K? That's the the illusion that they've got you under and how they can control you. So they think you're driving in commerce and you're not. But sometimes you might be.
I mean, we've got students that sometimes do use their automobiles for commerce. And so, legitimately, if they were doing that, they'd need a driver's license because that's what that gives you permission to do. We had an interesting situation. I don't remember who it was, but they got pulled over. And most of our students will use their passport card as ID. And, so, and and so the cop goes back, says you got a driver's license. And the guy goes, yeah. But I wasn't in commerce. So he just gave him the passport ID. In other words, the the the driver's license could have some viability if you did drive in commerce. I don't know if, you know, just different examples.
But, and on the tag, this is another Joe. The guy in New Jersey that's such a a wonderful addition to our family here is named Joe Lustica Alma. He lives up, I think, up in Northern New Jersey. And, Joe has his own Rumble channel, rumble.comfront/joe Lustica, just like it sounds, l u s t I c a. And Joe's done some wonderful pioneering work here. I don't know if we you've heard us mentioned, Joe. He almost got his city back from the state of New Jersey. So they stopped him driving. He pursued it through several levels of appeals and everything else. He went back to the original, paperwork when the city was founded and said that they'd adhere to the constitution, this, that, and the other, and he caught him not doing that. So he filed a type of suit and then he served the governor and the attorney general of the state.
And all of a sudden they came back and wanted to drop all the charges and be real play real nicey nicey. So the next step was Joe and the citizens of the I don't know. I don't even know what town it is, but they would own the town and all these civil people that had broken law would be out. So we had that happen that close in your state by this guy, Joe Lustica. Well, one of the other things Joe, came up with was how to get a department of transportation number for a private vehicle. So do you on the car, do you own the car? Have you is it paid off, or are you still paying for it?
[00:27:38] Unknown:
No. My car, I'm still paying for. My husband's, truck is paid off.
[00:27:45] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I think you could do it on the paid off vehicle because there's no lien on it or or other ownership by the bank. But you can go. There's he's got videos over on the Rumble channel, rumble.comfront/joelustica. And some people go and get that DDT number or whatever it is, DMT number, some number, and make it into a license tag and put that on the back of their car. So there's several things you can do, but it really depends on you. And I, I when is your license due to renew?
[00:28:27] Unknown:
I think it's on on 2028. Maybe on sometime in the 2020 a year.
[00:28:35] Unknown:
Listen. You got plenty of time. You don't have to make this decision right now. Go ahead and get everything else online. And as you grow into the information and feel more comfortable, you can make those decisions. If it's two years away, you got plenty of time. K? I mean, the way things are going, there's no telling what the situation will be in two years, quite frankly.
[00:28:58] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I guess, you know, then, my question is if if they will not, you know, go back to me and say, hey. But you still renew your driver's license. You still renew your registrations on your cars and your vehicles. And you say you're a national. So No. They'll never our jurisdiction.
[00:29:20] Unknown:
No. No. No. That won't that that you can't do that to override your affidavit with the secretary of state because you're under threat, duress, and coercion. In other words, the reason you do this because you might get pulled over by a guy on the side of the road with a less than a 100 IQ and a Glock on his hip, and you don't wanna fight that battle there. Okay? So you're doing it under threat, duress, coercion. Some people put that above their signature, t d c. There's other ways around that. But that you that will not negate your national status. Okay?
[00:29:58] Unknown:
Okay. I see that then. It'll be probably now I'm thinking the same for my husband's because, I don't know if I mentioned that he likes to hunt, so he, gets a hunting license and also, fishing license. So to, let's say, avoid while you mentioned that while we get confident on on the information and then, you know, learn more, then, if he wants to renew that, he it's okay, and he will not lose, like, you know No. No. What we just got because we definitely want to you know? We want our freedom.
[00:30:38] Unknown:
Alma, there's nothing that you can do except put in another affidavit saying I don't wanna be a national anymore. I wanna be a citizen of The United States on the fourteenth amendment. That would switch you back. To my knowledge, that's the only way because here's something you're missing. Everything's gotta be voluntary. K? So if you have to go get a license or something under threat again of trying to go out and hunt and confronting with killing the king's deer or whatever. All these things are under some kind of threat and nothing you can do except negate it. It can can turn your status around.
Everything's gotta be voluntary. Now here here's a case for you. Here's a case for you. Afryom, a f y o a f r y o m, Afryom, I think. Somebody can spell it out for, versus Rusk. It was a nineteen sixty sixties case. It overturned a previous Supreme Court decision from the fifties. Now here's the situation. Afraheim was a Hungarian Jew. He immigrated over here voluntarily. He naturalized went through the naturalization pro process like you did and your family. And, then they caught him voting in an Israeli election, which at that time was illegal. And so they came back and they tried to take his rights away, his newly acquired US fourteenth amendment rights.
And they, they actually had the precedent from the supreme court, and they revisited the issue. And they came back and said, no. You can't take his rights away even though he violated a regular relation rule, whatever it was. Now what they didn't tell you so much as come right out and say it is the reason they can't take his rights away is because everything's gotta be voluntary. Now we have had found one what's brought this up. They can take your citizenship rights away if you lied on the documents that you filled out coming into the country. Because they ask you, are you a member of a wanna overthrow the US government? However they ask you.
And that this new mayor up there answered no. And they were already planning to do that years earlier. So under that auspice, they could go in because he lied on his insurance documents and take his rights away and send me back to wherever the hell he came from. Okay? But that's the only way, and I didn't know they could do that until recently. Otherwise, everything's gotta be voluntary. You've gotta give them away. What they didn't tell Afraim was that he could give his fourteenth amendment rights and become a natural. He could give them away and become a national. They didn't tell Afraim that.
But these are the all these little nuances in what you're you're involved in now that you need to understand because they give you some background. So no. Don't worry about it. Don't lose sleep at night, Alma. They can't take those away from you.
[00:34:28] Unknown:
Okay?
[00:34:29] Unknown:
K.
[00:34:30] Unknown:
Does that make you feel better?
[00:34:33] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Because I was trying to figure out what we're going we were going to do. You know. And and and, I mean, I'm I'm not afraid if I have the information and I have the knowledge. That's something I am not, you know. Otherwise, I wouldn't have, you know, completed this and and then move on.
[00:34:56] Unknown:
That's why I'm so glad to see you around here as often as you have been. And I want you to continue as best you can to hang out with us, and you will learn this stuff. There's a lot to learn. You don't have to learn it all at once, and there's really nothing to be scared of. Let me just ask the audience. Have any of you run into anything in your national life that are are we're talking about being scared about? I I doubt if you'll have anybody on the 38, 40, whatever people we got here that'll answer anything because we just don't hear anything. Excuse me. We don't hear anything like that. And the as I've said 44 now.
44 on the board. Hey, Tom. You got any, suggestions for Alma here?
[00:35:43] Unknown:
Well, after having lived in New Jersey, my first suggestion would be to move. But, hey. I'll tell you what. It's been a it was a couple of time a couple of times, you know, if I hadn't been friends with the colonel or the state police, I'd have been behind bars a couple of times, you know, just for, you know and not really doing anything wrong. You know, one for one's for having a a loaded gun in New Jersey and, you know, another one for, I don't know, doing something dumb, speeding or something, I think, or made a wrong turn or I don't know. I can't remember. It was such a long time ago, but, you know, keep your friends close, your enemies closer.
Yeah. You weren't a national. Yeah. New Jersey. Right? Yeah. No. No. No. I wasn't. You know, that was, you know, my other other methods of keeping my butt, free. But New Jersey, probably the only state that I can think of that's worse than New Jersey is North Carolina. I mean, just, you know, in New Jersey, you can tell a cop, a thousand times that two plus two is four, and he's gonna say, no. It's not. It's five. And, you know, there's nothing you're gonna do to change your mind, you know, unless you bring a box of Dunkin' Donuts with you or something. I don't know. You know, I know that's that's not really true, but,
[00:37:08] Unknown:
you know me hungry, Tom.
[00:37:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. But it's, no. I can't stand New Jersey.
[00:37:18] Unknown:
So Well, Alma lives down in South.
[00:37:20] Unknown:
And New Jersey is pretty bad. Just just, you know, I I, you know, I'm I'm 70 now, so I'm not even worried about trying to fight. You know, I did my fights with the traffic laws and stuff way back during the Tupper Saucy days. I probably a lot of people don't know who or what that is, but, you know, I had my I had my, wins with that, but it's it's you know, do you wanna go about your life? You know, are you busy? Are you working? You know, you're trying to, you know, make a living? Then you don't need that extra hassle.
[00:37:53] Unknown:
It's just like just because you've got a driver's license does not make you a citizen of The United States. Because it's under threat, duress, coercion, and you don't wanna fight those battles, at least I wouldn't I don't wanna fight those battles. K? If you still have a driver's license and just, drive, responsibly under the speed limit, don't run red lights. Don't press the envelope because this is an area. The reason ALMA is not because we're not right. It's because we're dealing with people that are ignorant but control the area.
Now they have what's called jurisdiction. So the roads and stuff inside their territorial jurisdiction, the county, whatever it was, they've got jurisdiction on that, but it's a different type of jurisdiction. It's called subject matter because it's the roads and they're in that county that built, paid for, and maintains the roads. But now you and all of us do not have personal jurisdiction that they control. They control the subject matter, but they don't control the personal jurisdiction. We've changed that. And some these people just don't understand this. They've never run into other people like this before, generally. They've heard about them. They wanna call you a sovereign citizen and misidentify you and all that stuff. But the reason is is the local people don't understand this, and they don't like you telling them that they don't know their job and that they don't have, authority over you. And so that's, to me, where the conflict comes in. And it just depends. So which like Tom said, which hill do you wanna die on?
Okay? Because if you get into that and you try and start fighting them in their arena, you're they're gonna steal your life. Because I'm assuming, Alma, you don't know too much about court procedure and all that, do you? No. No. Well, so you gotta go in and learn all that to go in there and battle them. And even if you win, they kinda steal your life because you've had to spend so much time learning what they do. So this is one of those that I just say put on the side. Don't worry about it right now. Just do everything. Here, you you folks wanna be nationals.
With that choice comes personal responsibility. And and I think I was saying it yesterday or day before, you know, some folks get into this, some of these young bucks, and they go, I'm gonna press the envelope. So they drive a 100 miles an hour in Downtown Main Street and run two traffic lights. Well, I'm a national. Well, that's just stupid. Okay? Mhmm. And and we don't wanna act like that. We wanna be responsible. That's what we represent. And if we're gonna represent our position to others, we want them to see the goodness in it. And the goodness in it is being personally responsible. Because see, that's what you're really doing is you're becoming personal responsible for all your actions.
You can't go back on suck on government tit. Okay? So that's kinda what's going on. And as a new person with a family, take it slowly, Alma. We we will guide you by the hand, and we will help you make a decision that is best for you where you can sleep good at night. Because I'm assuming that you like to sleep good at night. Is that correct? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. Well, just well, just calm down. Take a step at a time. You've got the ball. I want you to be comfortable dribbling it. These these things you brought up today, especially with two year time window down the road, let's worry about them later. K?
[00:41:57] Unknown:
Okay. Comment.
[00:41:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright. Tom.
[00:42:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, just to give you a little perspective on it, I mean, I've been in this battle for forty five years or more. Longer than I have. Well, yeah. Well, I wish I had met you a long time ago, Roger, but, it's, you know, it's a big, long road of education. I mean, you're, you know, you're you're proficient in, you know, adding, subtracting, and multiplication and division, but now you're gonna you're just gonna go jump in and start doing calculus or trigonometry. You gotta do it. You have to have the training. So the only what I can suggest is is that I've heard people, and I haven't been pulled over in I don't know how many years, but if you get pulled over something, you know, you make a mistake, you know, you roll through a stop sign or something or whatever.
Give them your give them your passport card. You know, when you get your did she get, did she get her, passport and passport card yet? I'm pretty sure she's wife. Well yeah. Yes. I guess, still haven't gotten them yet. But I will. Yeah. Well, I've just thought about it. I figured, like, if I get pulled over, I'm gonna say, oh, damn. I I forgot my wallet. Oh, wait a minute. Here. I got my here's my passport card. And give that to him and see what happens. You know, I've heard from other people that said they've given it to him and they go like, okay. Well, you know what? Just slow down or, you know, make a full stop next time, you know, and, you know, they give you a warning and let you off. You know? That's that's the the probably the best outcome I can think of. You know? You you don't you really don't wanna get into a court battle because they will run you over, like, you know, you'll just think, you're the coyote and they're roadrunner.
[00:43:44] Unknown:
So Let let me ask Alma something here. Alma, have you ever been in a court situation before?
[00:43:52] Unknown:
No. Maybe maybe wants to pay a fine for, you know, driving while I was trying to on my phone looking for an address, and they were thinking that I was using the phone or something like that. Uh-huh. Yeah. But, no. Nothing big. It was just, you know, like yeah.
[00:44:11] Unknown:
It's just I promise you. It's just no it's no fun unless you gotta be in there or you really wanna be to learn. Now that was a very popular thing in the early days, my early days in this movement, because the fines and the penalties are fairly low. You never can run up a big one, and it's a good place to go in and get we used to be in in a courtroom, so you're not so, unaware of what's happening and unknowledgeable about it. You're not scared because you can't hardly go in there and not be scared. Some people may be able to. It's just no reason to put yourself in that. And one of the things we try and do excuse me. My stomach is acting up. One of the things we try and do is keep you out of court because it's just it's not a lot of fun, and it's, it's just not a lot of fun.
So and they see but my thing is even if you win, you've had to put so much of your life on the back burner to learn rules and how to do stuff and what to do and serving people and all that crap. By the time you've learned all that, they've won because they've stolen your life. And it's just not worth it to me. Now you Mhmm. Will be able to make that decision for yourself, but you don't have to make it right now. Drive carefully. K?
[00:45:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Alright. Anybody got any other words of advice for Alma here? Hey, Roger. Yeah, Roger. Hey, Roger. The only thing I can, the only way I can comment about that is that the tickets are made the the the fines the amount of the fines are made on what they think people will pay but not to the point where it's too much where people will say, you know what, this is too much. I'm gonna fight it because like you said, you gotta take a day off work, you may lose a pay's pay, You gotta stand in line. You gotta wait. You're gonna lose you're just gonna waste the whole day maybe more trying to get, you know, fight a ticket like that. Now the other side of that coin is if everyone that got a ticket, I don't care if it's a parking ticket or, you know, speeding a 100 mile an hour on Main Street and running two red lights like you said. If everybody that ever got a ticket fought it, the whole system would collapse because they depend on people just saying, you know what? This $150 ticket is not worth me losing a day or I might get, you know, I'm gonna have to ask my boss for a day off or I gotta take away off of work. All of the crap that you gotta put up with, it's just not it's, you know but if everybody in the world, everybody in The United States, they gotta take it for it, the thing the system would crumble because they just couldn't they wouldn't be able to deal with it because it is a it is a criminal offense.
And, and, you know, and you do have the right to a speedy trial. So the NCBA wouldn't be able to come, you know, they wouldn't be able to to be able to deal with that. But, you know, when I the first time I ever did it, I did it with a I did it I did it with a parking ticket. I I went and got a parking ticket and I went into the judge and that was back, like I said, in the Tupper saucy days and I and I actually won because I told the judge, judge, I don't I don't have any dollars. I said, I I wasn't gonna put counterfeit coins into the machine there. I said, that's gonna swallow. And he kinda looked at me, he goes, okay. Dismissed.
And I don't know whether I I he understood what I was yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I was fighting the money issue back then. That was with the Tupper Saw f Tupper Sawcy. His book, Miracle on Main Street. And, he had it was yeah. Unfortunately, it didn't work for everybody.
[00:47:50] Unknown:
Yeah. It got him ten years on the on the road and a failure to file charge.
[00:47:58] Unknown:
You know, you go to the top of the list. That's a that's a another whole debacle.
[00:48:02] Unknown:
Most of these folks have never even heard of the bomb.
[00:48:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You'll see. I'm here every day and learn, and you'll you'll pick all this stuff up. You'll hear other people's experiences, and you can decide for yourself whether you wanna, you know, you wanna pick a bigger battle, but you need some education first. Like I said, I've been doing it forty five years, and it's a lot. So Because
[00:48:23] Unknown:
But welcome to the show.
[00:48:25] Unknown:
Yep. Now you're self government.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Yes, lad.
[00:48:29] Unknown:
That's right. That's what we're talking about. You're talking about self government. It really is labeled technically, I'll get you a second, Samuel. Is labeled our anarchy. They've turned people's minds where they think anarchy is somebody throwing Molotov cocktails at buildings, but it's not. It's self government. And it's the real opposite end of the scale of communism, which is where they own you and everything else. Not it's not communism and fascism left and right. Those are both somewhat similar systems of government. The real political scale is communism on the left and anarchy on the right.
Now, Samuel, what have you got here for the lovely Alma?
[00:49:19] Unknown:
Yeah. I, I have an approach that I gonna use, and I think it's middle ground, and I think it's substantive. You know, when you go and buy a gun, they recommend you don't buy one bullet. And I think you have to weaponize yourself with your notices when you apply those. What I'm gonna do with my notices is, once I have all my paperwork done and get it recorded at the county, my my elodeon, my land patent, attached to that is my affidavit and my declaration of independence. Once those are there and the declaration is run-in my local paper, I'm gonna take that sandwich of, documents.
And then I'm gonna notice the the people like the AG, the sheriff. I'm very rural, so I'm usually gonna be dealing with him and a local district attorney as you've recommended. But it within that, I'm gonna tell them who I am, where I am, and what I am, and what they have to do to if they wanted to speak to me and what the rules are. So I'm a Christian. They need a Christian name. Okay. They need a proper location for me, not an address. And if they can't do that, then they're breaking the rules unless they can come back at me and tell me why they object. And if in so many days they haven't objected, it's gonna be in there that they're in agreement with me.
When it comes to the driver's license, I think we can use the doctrine of necessity. No. Now that they know who you are, I'm gonna say that with the doctrine of necessity, because for me, I'm going to make the claim that a driver's license is a matter of life and death. And I'm gonna tell them that out of necessity, I'm going to keep that driver's license, but I'm not waiving any of my rights as that man that I am that I've just explained to him that I am. And if they have a objection to that, again, I'm gonna ask them for a response, or they're in agreement with me. That's how I'm gonna handle a lot of this.
I think that way you've loaded your gun. You've got extra ammo. I'm gonna send that registered mail, so have chain of custody to those main three people. And if if if I get pulled over or whatever, I can hand them those documentation to say your agency's been put on notice, sheriff department. Anybody else? The district attorney's been put on notice. That's how I think I'm gonna handle it for myself.
[00:52:21] Unknown:
So, Alma, he's trying to get, his land off the property rules also. I don't think that's part of your goals here. And Samuel's very knowledgeable, and he's, very detail oriented as you could tell. And, good on you. Anybody else got something they'd like to tell Alma, encouragement or whatever?
[00:52:44] Unknown:
Roger. Nobody?
[00:52:46] Unknown:
Well, there's somebody. Jesse wants to yak with you, Alma. Young probably talk in Spanish. Go ahead, Jesse.
[00:52:53] Unknown:
Well, Baskets, if she could talk Baskets. But, anyways okay. And I don't know that either. But anyways, you know, we gotta look at this a long term. And, I've been realizing, you know, when Jesus came, he he got 12 disciple and and Christianity expanded from 12 men forward. And that's sort of the same thing that you started many years ago. And everybody, all those patriotic men, they have piece of the puzzles. It's been a long time to get to this situation. And like you said, there was 1,000 people there in the audience, and you took this and kept on going. And, long term, every individual comes here.
Sometime we're just looking at the mirror to ourself and what how this help us with the taxes or driver license. But, you know, in our case or many cases, now it's not just the older generation. It's the middle, and it's the younger one. Many have come here with 20 years old, 18, I think. And now the third generation, in our case, I have three generations that's in national. And now it's even has gone even further because it's not just being a national, but no, no Social Security, no birth certificate, and you still get your passport. The only the only obstacle that we have going forward sorry about that.
The only problem that we have in the future is ignorance. Every time you face a police officer and stingers and, and face it on these officials that don't know nothing in including your family, your coworkers, and so on. If you look forward, we have started something that we might not see everything in the next year or two years. But twenty years, thirty years, fifty years from now, we have started something that's is beautiful to see. And I I give thanks to the Lord, and I give thanks to Roger and to all the community here. So we should not be worried too much how fast we learn this based on your skills and your needs.
Just keep on going forward and eating this, elephant one bite at a time.
[00:55:12] Unknown:
Yeah. And another hat that we wear, Alma, is we've gotta educate these people. Like, if you're talking about the not the guy on the side of the road with the gu Glock, but if you follow through on that, you're gonna have paperwork in. And all along that way, how, you're gonna be helping to educate those folks in government because they don't know this. It's it's not unusual if you understand why they think we're crazy. Because here, they've been through their whole life. They're professionals. And and they've never they they they never even imagined this. I had an attorney that I was staying in the same house with for about a month down in Buenos Aires.
He was from Indiana or something. He'd been a, assistant CEO of a corporation or whatever, and he wanted to make some money. So he went to law school and went out into personal injury law. And, hell, he made $30,000,000 on his first case. And he had gotten freewheeling, and he had been charged with and convicted of failure to file. And they stripped him of his bar license, but he'd made millions of dollars. He spent about six months in a country club hotel, and he was just out traveling the world. And he knew about these guys that I knew in Buenos Aires, and he was down there. So well, I gave him I had a few copies of my book, not many, and I gave him one. But, boy, we got into a huge, huge argument about this with him trying to play devil's advocate. He's just saying, if this was real, all of my friends would have told me about it. Well, they don't know either.
We've got to be educators. So, Al, it's not only that you learn all this other stuff, and the more you learn and understand, the freer you are, but you gotta use that to be able to educate others too. Not only people that may want to come do this, but also people that we're coming up against that think we're crazy sovereign citizens and have a third eye on our forehead. So I just wanna tell that story. I don't know if I've ever told it before. I don't remember his name, but boy did we get into a heated argument one night. I've often thought about him. That was years ago.
And and I, well, wonder if you've realized how how bad it was, you know. One of the other guys down there, Jackson, that kinda ran the show, and, he's a big Trump man. But and we try and get in these discussions, and I explain this stuff to him. He go, no, Roger. The country couldn't been in bankruptcy because there's no bankruptcy court to go to. Okay? So anyway, you go, no. No. No, Roger. There's no shadow government. He's always just nega well, after Trump, after they stole the election, I got a hold of him. I said, there are no shadow government. He goes, I don't mess with politics anymore. Yeah. That's right. Get caught. You don't know what you're talking about. Pick up your marbles and go home.
So, anyway, it's interesting. I've run into a lot of that stuff. These people just flat don't know. You know what Jackson told me? One time, we were sitting on his balcony over there by where, Evita Peron is buried, her her grave close to that. And and and he goes, Roger, I'll believe what you're telling me when I read it on the as a headline in the New York Times. Now you wanna talk about somebody that's fooled right there? Woo hoo. That's not So anyway no. It's not. Poor old Jackson. Boy, did I rub his nose in that. I got something for Alma.
Satisfaction. Yes. Merc has got something for Alma. We can get back serious.
[00:59:12] Unknown:
I know. Good morning. Hi. Good morning. The whistler's gonna come on, but I wanted to explain to her, that we it it it does take time to get empowered. It does take time to take to understand what you need to do. And the renewal, if if you go back and listen to the past, maybe 2021 through 2023 on Castbox, there's a few experiences shared where people are sharing their passport card, which is what we should be using. I put the DMV on notice, and I kept, attorney general, in the loop because they are he's he is, responsible for his agents and, secretary of state of DC.
So it is important to understand why to why you should be using a passport card, and I can help you with that. But the driver's license, it it brings you into the loop with a lot of other US, United States, corporation contracts, or they try to. They're gonna presume you're still participating. So it's up to us to rebut that presumption and, let you know, and renotice them when they trespass. And if they do not, agree or they try to still roll on roll over you, you have to, you know, hold their feet to the fire like Roger has always said. So it's important to un to be able to, review all the codes and informations. In that way, you will see that they are for their residents and their US citizens, and it's up to us to rebut that.
And they do leave you alone. I don't have my I don't drive with a driver's license. But there are, you know, other options you can use to Hey. Travel. You know?
[01:01:22] Unknown:
And then there's another there's another aspect wrinkle to this too. If you're using your passport card, it depends on what type of, of cop is stopping you. Because if you're giving the card, some of those police departments don't have the ability to tap into that national database where they can get the information that's attached there. So that's another element, it appears. So, Alma, don't be headstrong. You're not gonna roam one built in a day. Be take one baby step in front of another, and let's grow you into your self empowerment. Okay?
[01:02:05] Unknown:
So I Roger, the main thing is to protect her children.
[01:02:09] Unknown:
I understand. I wouldn't worry about well, that's even more a necessity to probably stay with the driver's license. She's gonna have her children in her car. You wanna drive carefully when the children are in the car with you, don't you? So be self responsible. Everything will work out. Don't get anxious about anything. They can't take your national status away.
[01:02:30] Unknown:
K?
[01:02:33] Unknown:
Boy, poor Alma. She's getting thrown so much stuff. We're throwing so much stuff at her. So just, you you you can learn. Just go slowly. K? Now you may be super smart and gonna learn overnight, but you still have to grow into it, and it just takes a little time. That's one of our biggest problems, Alma, is that you're changing people's worldview in life, turning it back right side up. And when you do that for somebody, they just don't get used to it immediately. You you you grow into it. Believe me. It's a process. So keep hanging around.
Keep asking questions. Keep absorbing the things that we talk about and that you expose yourself to, and you'll get there. Alright? I can tell you're very determined. If you're determined, you'll get there because we're gonna make sure you do. Okay?
[01:03:34] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[01:03:36] Unknown:
Alright. Yes. Who was the Hey, Roger, Gary? Was that you?
[01:03:40] Unknown:
It's Jack in Colorado.
[01:03:42] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Jack. You're one of our Saturday guys. This is one of our new gals, Alma, naturalized Mexicans, live in Jersey, been here twenty, twenty five years. She's got a family and a cousin with family and all that, and she's relatively new. Jack's been around a while. Yeah.
[01:04:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I listen every day, Roger. So, for a couple two, three years now. I have a question. Did we ever find out what happened with Bruce when he was gonna go arrest the cop that gave him a ticket?
[01:04:13] Unknown:
I haven't heard from Bruce back yet. Since then, I no. He had he hadn't done it when I asked him about it on Tuesday. That's a pretty bold move. That's a pretty bold move. I'm a tell I wouldn't I wouldn't do that.
[01:04:29] Unknown:
I wouldn't either, but I was wondering what happened. So if he's on, I'd love to hear about it.
[01:04:34] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, we'll bring it up again next week, Jack.
[01:04:40] Unknown:
Or even the idea of it too. That's a good idea too.
[01:04:45] Unknown:
Sure. I I would like to hear Bruce's idea of what what he's planning on doing and how to try. Arrest the try and arrest the citizen's arrest of the officer that's giving him all that crap. So I don't advise pressing the envelope like that. If you got a bunch of testosterone and full of piss and vinegar, you go do it. K? Now, Jack, you had something else to ask?
[01:05:09] Unknown:
No. That's it. I was just thinking about that. I I thought that that would be a pretty entertaining story to hear how that ended up, but that's all I have for now.
[01:05:16] Unknown:
Okay. I have a feeling that was a little a little boastfulness, and it didn't get carried out. But the reason he might not be here is he may be in jail. Who knows? So who else has got something for Alma? For America? Ray, how you doing?
[01:05:35] Unknown:
Who you calling to? Hello? You.
[01:05:38] Unknown:
Hello? Athena? Are we all on the same bandwidth here? Hello. This is Roger. Who are you? I'm I go by Ray also, but my name is Rachel. I have some questions. Rachel, you were on the other day. Yeah. You're from Northern Arizona. You were on the other day.
[01:05:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That's me.
[01:06:01] Unknown:
Okay. Good deal. Glad you came back. How are you doing?
[01:06:05] Unknown:
I'm doing great. Doing great. We're actually getting some precipitation lately here, so that's good. That's always nice. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're high desert. You know? Uh-huh. And Great. It's a great and
[01:06:19] Unknown:
it's a wonderful high desert. I lived in high desert in Argentina. It's very there's a lot of very desirable things about it.
[01:06:28] Unknown:
Very much so, especially because we have very pure water here. We have the Coconino. And, my well just happened to only be a 100 the water was only a 140, feet down, and they went to one seventy five. And it's very pure.
[01:06:46] Unknown:
It's like Oh, good for you. Sounds like you should be in a good spot, Raech. Hi, Jen. Very grateful. Oh, well, we Well, you found a good spot here. So let's see if we can nerd in here a little bit. What are your questions? Hey, Roger. One second. Very interesting. Well, up up up. Hold on. Paul's Hold on one second. Injection.
[01:07:07] Unknown:
Well, hold on one second, Rachel. We're we'll take care of you first, but there was another guy that jumped in there, was trying to get Roger's attention. Can we get your name, please, so we can call on you when we get Rachel Dinger?
[01:07:21] Unknown:
Well, it was Danny. Danny.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
Danny. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Danny on the Don't forget, we gotta circle back to Danny when we're done with Rachel. Okay. I who could forget? Are you sure
[01:07:32] Unknown:
you wanna take me first? I'm okay with No. Rachel, we have a rule around here that
[01:07:38] Unknown:
ladies go first. So we're trying to, follow that because if my mother was still alive and I didn't do it, she'd be very, very mad with me. So, I we will address your questions. And two, because Danny's been around for a while. You're new. So let's, see what we can do for you first here.
[01:07:57] Unknown:
Thank you. I appreciate that. I haven't dealt with my trust in a while. This was part of that trust. And I I wanted to make a comment because Brent and I had a very interesting conversation about anarchism, and I am a self professed anarchist now. Only we now go by the term agorist, which is important to us because it's a it's a for for the more modern anarchists, it simply means being able to trade in the open air freely. So so it's important these guys don't like they will, a lot of them, like g Edward Griffin, Eric Burrows, Mark, what's his name, Mark Passio.
There's a lot of them, and they're really wonderful. And they have some really good stuff, and they've been at this for a while as well. But I think they they lean more toward the, you know, the sovereign citizen thing. And I'm just curious once I approach them with this information, I'm curious to see, you know, if if they're aware of that. Are you familiar with g Edward Griffin?
[01:09:18] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am.
[01:09:19] Unknown:
Oh my goodness. He's been around for a long time. A creature from Bethel Island.
[01:09:25] Unknown:
He has. I could tell you a story. This information, it just surfaced, was put right under his face, and he turned his nose up at it and said, so what? So go ahead. Oh, wow. Okay. Very interesting. Well, see, you can't see this on the generally, when you're looking on the surface, you can't see this. It's very deep. K? You you could see some of the inconsistencies and stuff, and that's what we try, of course, and focus on to show you that there as Anne Rand said, there's no there are no such things as coincidences.
[01:10:00] Unknown:
Right. And, I have a local group that I'm involved with that I would like to, you know, get this information
[01:10:08] Unknown:
to. Well, all I've learned to able to do with it, you can't force people into this. It'll never work. Doesn't make any difference. Some people see it. Some people don't. There's some kind of a differentiation in people that it does oh, hell. I resonate with are we still on? Yes. I'm here. Okay. My electricity my electricity just went off. It's third time twice last night.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
I have my own electricity. I produce my own electrical.
[01:10:39] Unknown:
Well, anyway, let's see. Back to where I was going. All you can do is put this in front of people and see if it resonates with them. And if not, you can see. I'm
[01:10:49] Unknown:
gonna I'm gonna try on a more local level.
[01:10:53] Unknown:
Okay. I I've done it on local, national, international, all that, all these levels for many years. I'm telling you what I've learned is that most people are scared. It doesn't resonate with them. They don't believe it, whatever. And it's only a small percentage of people that this will resonate with that want to ask questions and lead further. Now with all those others, you're planting seeds. So it's not like that that they may something will happen and they'll germinate later and they'll come back and, hey. Remember that when you were asking me? But there's a lot of techniques of using this to talk to people. If you can get them to sit down and watch one of those interviews like the one with badass uncle Sam or something, that that that will that will work. If they will listen, you you just I wish everybody resonated to it.
[01:11:47] Unknown:
Rachel, I would have thought this information
[01:11:50] Unknown:
would I was shot. I'm like, fifteen years ago, first time I got on Joyce Riley's big morning show with this information, I would have thought that, it would have gone through the populace like shit through a goose, and we turned the country around immediately. Man, was I wrong.
[01:12:10] Unknown:
K? So crazy. But, I have a I have a as I told Brent, I have a background in marketing and business management. Uh-huh. You know, there's a I have connections, and I'm gonna see what happens with that. I really am, Wow. Encouraged by it. And I'm but I'm gonna peruse more of the information and kind of get some of the information more, you know, so that when I'm talking to them about it, I know what I'm talking about, and they get that I'm confident.
[01:12:44] Unknown:
You've been around here a couple of days. This is a process. Now the event was when you and Will, I believe has turned you on to this and and, you you you learned about it. The rest of the time that you will be involved with it, it's a process. And all you're gonna do is continue to grow and understand. And and you're you've turned what we've done for you is turned your life right side up. You've lived upside down your whole life not knowing it. Now we've turned you a 180 degrees the other direction, and you're just not gonna acclimate to it immediately.
[01:13:22] Unknown:
Well, I was fortunate that I had a family that was more freedom minded, and my uncle in particular was a a conspiracy researcher from way back, and his best friend was Ralph Epperson. The I'm sorry. Yeah. I spoke with him. I spoke with Ralph years ago. Have you? Yeah. He's a good guy.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
Yeah. He's big on free I think I spoke to him about Freemason stuff.
[01:13:48] Unknown:
Absolutely. Yeah. He'll he'll tell you all about that. And he and he goes into the history of the Vietnam War and drugs in The US and also, Billy the Kid, this, you know, the true history of Billy the Kid and the Masonic orders. Anyway, very fascinating. So the thing is I'm not new to any of this, and I've been wanting to get out. And, obviously, I I have because I've moved in this direction, but I have this issue. Once I and I divorced in 2018, and I was with this man for thirty three years who became a big time enabler. I have five sons. I homeschooled for ten years. I was, you know, kind of homesteading half one foot in and one foot out. So I'm no stranger to this the thought of being self sufficient and, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a homeopathic and holistic, unlicensed.
I don't need a license. God gave me that gift, so I don't need a license to practice that. And so I'm, oh, sorry. Hold on a second. My husband's looking for the keys to the car. Here you go, honey. Goodbye. So, I was, sort of homesteading. I've always had a garden. I had chickens. I had a goat. You know? So I've I've been in this mindset for a long time, and I've been looking for ways out. I when I divorced, I had an annuity that I I traded him the house for this annuity. Then I went ahead and, to in an effort to get out of that system because I didn't feel good about them managing my money. And it was a good annuity too. It's just that it went against the grain of what I had always wanted to accomplish, which was I always wanted a homestead.
I've always wanted to be all the way out. So I rolled that over into the best that I could do at the time because I didn't know any better. And I researched and I thought, well, how can I get my money out of this annuity without incurring a huge tax debt? And that was to roll it over into a solo four zero one k and create, like, a business. I'm a sole proprietorship, and I'm created in LLC, a Wyoming LLC. And so now it's kind of and this property is supposed to be a a, what do you call it? It's it's an income property. It's supposed to be an income property. You can legally
[01:16:48] Unknown:
do that. Is is the question you're leading up to having to do with this property in a trust?
[01:16:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:16:57] Unknown:
How will that jive with? And I know Brent is gonna be helping me. I'm already enrolled in his course. So Okay. Well next one. Yeah. I'm I this is I would never give you even suggestions on this because it has to do with your wealth and my ignorance on this subject. I want you to talk to them. Now they're and and let them give you some really good professional advice. Okay?
[01:17:23] Unknown:
I'm just curious if anybody else done this. Has there been any other people in the group that Bunch of people have done trusts. They're all different. All the circumstances
[01:17:33] Unknown:
are different, so you can't automatically say yes to this and compare it. Sure. That's why I say you're gonna have to talk to Brent, and and that's a a conversation about your personal wealth and those things I assume you'd like to keep private and him and his professional, advice and that relationship between you two. So if you got any questions on the process here or any of these things that are affecting you and not this situation with some trust and property, k? Then I I think we can answer them and address them. So do you have any of those?
[01:18:10] Unknown:
On, well, you know, it all I thought that, I appreciated Alma's input there and everybody else. And I would love to, watch Joe's information. You said that he's on, he's on,
[01:18:29] Unknown:
rumblerumble..com. Rumble.comfront/joelustica, l u s t I c a. And I think he's got a number of videos over there. He's real good at this. You talk about somebody that just has a natural knack for all of this kind of stuff. Your boy is him. Mhmm. He is just a bulldog, so god bless him. Yeah. I I would I feel very comfortable steering anyone in Joe Lusticka's direction.
[01:19:02] Unknown:
I would love to find the gentleman. I don't know if you guys have recently seen that video of that young man that was in his car, and he gets pulled over by a cop. And, man, he just and by the end of that conversation that, he he had won the cop over. The cop was like, hey. Can I Yeah? Get your information? And he goes, I'm gonna hold you to a man of evil that you're a man of evil word. And he ended up giving the cop his card.
[01:19:32] Unknown:
Very, very interesting. Well, people are so you know, things things have gotten so bad and a lot out front to people that they're starting to have open minds and ask questions and want to know about these things. That's the difference is you gotta have somebody that wants to know about this. And the reason is because if you're gonna be free, you gotta learn the information. If you don't wanna be free, you're not gonna spend the time and effort to learn and then bring the information and make it yours. And if you don't do that, you're not free. So that's why you can't go chase people with this stuff. It doesn't work. It's not a pain amount of pridefulness
[01:20:12] Unknown:
and arrogance too that you're trying to overcome. You know, it's unbelievable.
[01:20:17] Unknown:
Well, what did Mark Twain say? It's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled. Exactly what you just said. Pride. That's the truth. Ego. Pridefulness and arrogance. Okay. So listen. Let me if you don't have a specific question, then,
[01:20:32] Unknown:
with what we do here, and I'm gonna say nice to speak with you again. Glad you're on board. Just stick around. Wait. I I do have one other question. My question, of course, would be Yes, ma'am. Do I need to before I start this process, which I I want to start it immediately, But before I start this process, do I need to get with Brent first
[01:20:55] Unknown:
about all this other stuff? Because I don't know how that's gonna affect my trust in four zero one k. No. You can always alter that to streamline with what you wanna be. But if you wanna be free, you gotta go to this first.
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Okay. That's fine. Alright. So just Okay. Just go by the directions on the website and just start the process.
[01:21:21] Unknown:
The trust the trust course, you mean?
[01:21:25] Unknown:
The trust course, I'm gonna take anyway, but, no, I'm talking about the documentation.
[01:21:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, well Yeah. Get an affidavit, get it notarized, and learn what you're doing, understand what you're doing. It's not just follow I want people to know why all of this works. And and I know there's a lot of stuff here. It's overwhelming. You're new. But, yeah, it's first thing you do is make up your mind you wanna do it. Then you go through it, and that means going and getting a sample affidavit. You go on and getting it one or 10 or however many copies you want original. Go get them notarized. You can do it as a declaration, and it'll work.
And you can also, if you don't wanna do a notary, you can use two witnesses for each one, and that is counts as notarized. So all all those little things, and then you send it to the secretary of state of The United States. And and, then you can go ahead and fulfill. There's a whole protocol of what we do here, on how to roll this out. And it just take it slow. K? Okay. You're gonna have to unlearn if you've been around this that this stuff that long, you're gonna have to unlearn some stuff along the way too. I just don't know what yet. Alright? But you're you're headed in the right direction.
K. Sounds good. Alright? Okay, girl. Alright. Good to talk to you again. Paul, did you have something to say to Rach there?
[01:23:00] Unknown:
Yeah. You can go to the download section on the matrix docs and the instruction how to file a national affidavit is right there. Right. Read through that. I got it. And then, that should be that should be it. And if you want an example, go to notice.paulbiener.com, paulbiener.com. Notice.paulbiehner.com. That's my three page, notification package. Starts with a cover letter for all agencies and has a copy of my affidavit and a fee schedule. And that's up here on the Internet. Ready for Is there a link on your website to this No. There is. As well? No. You have to type it in you have to type it into the the address bar. Just type notice dot paul beaner, one word, dot com.
[01:24:03] Unknown:
How do you spell your last name? I'm sorry. It was too fast.
[01:24:08] Unknown:
It's just like Wiener with a b.
[01:24:11] Unknown:
Okay. Good.
[01:24:13] Unknown:
There you go. Alright.
[01:24:14] Unknown:
Got And there's also notice.paulbiener.com or dot Yep.
[01:24:20] Unknown:
Anything. Now, Rachel, there's a couple of resources you've got at your disposal. Mirka, who you heard talk a minute ago, has got a Telegram group. If you've got Telegram loaded, you can join her group, and there's over 500 people on there, students. It's national space status space freedom. National status freedom. Three separate words. Marco will get you in, clear you. And then there's a website that Dave and Kaye have put up called nationalstatus.info. Nationalstatus.info. And it's a nice maneuverable website that'll print documents for you and do all that. It's attached to AI, and a lot of people are very impressed with it. So there's two things right there that you can reach out that can help you in this process. Okay?
[01:25:20] Unknown:
Okay. And what about this we the people2.us? What,
[01:25:28] Unknown:
somebody else can do that? I have no idea who that is. Never heard of it. No. Okay.
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Terrific. Okay.
[01:25:36] Unknown:
Alright. Okay. Very good. So That's it. And we're here six days a week, so just feel free to pop in and ask questions.
[01:25:45] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. You you said that a lot of people how many people have done this
[01:25:51] Unknown:
in this group? I would assume I would estimate about 2,000,000 from my efforts.
[01:25:58] Unknown:
Wow. Oh my goodness. That's pretty good, Roger. Well That's that's impressive, actually. Industrious.
[01:26:08] Unknown:
Well, I can I can I tell you why I estimate that? When we were in, Danny, I'll get to you in a minute. When we were in, the school with them, in that six months, there's 1,200 people went through there and filed these affidavits. When they finally excuse me. They came after John and Glenn, my teachers, just to get them off the street. He's all on all kinds of other charges. But this was certainly part of it. And Glenn told me later that the US attorney stood up and opened court in Salt Lake City and said that the IRS had received over 100,000 of these affidavits when only 1,200 people paid to go through the course.
So there's your Patriot community right there. Okay? So I've been doing this. They were teaching it for six months. I've been on the air with it for fifteen years. I guarantee you that it's a minimum of 2,000,000 people off of my efforts and other people that I never even talked to and that kind of stuff. Where they They know they're coming in. They they have they we've had a couple of examples where they were testing some of our folks to see what they knew. Okay? So they're aware of it. Alright. Now I'm gonna go over to did anybody have anything to add on this conversation with the rates here?
I thought I heard somebody say something a minute ago. Comment. Okay. Go ahead. Danny, I hadn't forgot you. Go ahead.
[01:27:51] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Larry. I believe this is Rachel. Is that correct? Yes. Yes. Alright. Yeah. So something she said, just caught my ear, and I just, I learned this in Brent's trust class, and we gotta be very careful about the words we use. She said that she wants to put her property in a trust, and I get what she's saying. If it's not in a trust, it's still your property. But the thing that we need to understand is once that property has been transferred to a trustee, it's no longer your property. You can never refer to it again as my property in a trust, especially if you set it up as as you being the beneficiary. Right. You you get equitable title, and the trustee has legal title.
He owns the property. The trustee owns the property. You'd you'd relinquish ownership of the property, and that that's the proper way to look at it going forward because if you were ever in a deposition and you said, well, I put my property in a trust and I'm the beneficiary, that's that could be very, you know, detrimental to your
[01:29:07] Unknown:
If if it's never it was never my property. This was bought in the LLC in the name of the LLC, and the LLC is owned by the trust.
[01:29:17] Unknown:
Okay. It's okay. I'll just say that in general, though. Just When we get some technical stuff, plea please talk to somebody that knows knows. Okay?
[01:29:26] Unknown:
Sure.
[01:29:27] Unknown:
Brit Brit is here in March. Here. He's correct. Okay. Alright.
[01:29:32] Unknown:
Good enough. Now, Danny, anything else, Larry, or are you finished? You finished. Danny. That's all. That's all. Took us a couple of minutes to get there, Danny, but we're there. Oh, Danny. Danny, did you get PO'd and leave or what? Maybe he nodded off. Danny, wake up. Danny, can you hear us?
[01:30:07] Unknown:
Guess not. Okay. Well, who else is there? Yeah. He's there. He's unmuted, but I don't hear nothing. L Benny. Me. Shane, we're not hearing
[01:30:17] Unknown:
you. That's Shane.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Yes, Roger. Yes, Shane. This is Shane. Welcome aboard, Alma.
[01:30:28] Unknown:
We just had to state that Roger, I think you can hear me now. Yeah. I'm coming through. Alright, Shane. Hold on. We'll get back to you in a minute. Danny woke up. Yay, Danny. Voice is a trying day today here.
[01:30:46] Unknown:
Danny, you cut out again.
[01:30:48] Unknown:
Hello?
[01:30:49] Unknown:
There you are. Danny, we hear you.
[01:30:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not hearing y'all.
[01:30:55] Unknown:
Okay. Uh-oh. If you if you're on a Bluetooth, get rid of it. Hang it up. Get rid of the Bluetooth.
[01:31:00] Unknown:
Get rid of the Bluetooth, Danny. No Bluetooth.
[01:31:06] Unknown:
Thanks. It's no bueno.
[01:31:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I can just hold on, Shane.
[01:31:12] Unknown:
No freaking good.
[01:31:16] Unknown:
Danny, Danny, Danny.
[01:31:20] Unknown:
Alright. Let's go to Shane. Danny can sort out you, Shane. What he's got going on. You want to Hello? From Alma. Hello? Oh, you hear me now? Yes. Where are you now? Yes.
[01:31:32] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. Danny.
[01:31:35] Unknown:
Yeah. While you're doing traffic, things a while ago, and I'll bring up my I'll bring up my point because, people talk about the driver's license mostly because that's what you have problems with. But the real problem starts with the licensing of the car for use as a vehicle. Because the legal definition of vehicle, it's a thing used in commerce, transportation. And here's the definition in the Tennessee code and much the same thing in, all the other states that I've checked. It says vehicle and freight motor vehicle means every device in a phone or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway accepting devices moved by human power are used exclusively upon stationary rails.
Now who really understands that? Do you think any of the police understand that? Of course. I've asked them to explain how they came to a conclusion that my car, satisfied the, legal definition of vehicle. And, you know, they they I don't think they're even aware that there is a legal definition. But if you check the codes, they all apply to vehicles, not automobiles in general or pickup trucks in general. It's a very specialized technical definition. It's a classification of things according to how they're used, and the use is, in commerce.
And, if you allow that to go by, well, yeah, you were in commerce if you were in a, either actual use for transporting, something for pay or, you had the license that allowed it to be used for that purpose. There is no obligation to register your car for use as a vehicle if you're not gonna use it that way. If you're not gonna be making any money with it going down the road, well, then that's not you. And, I had to go look in the previous code. The current Tennessee code is called the, Tennessee code annotated. And, previously, it was, the tennis the code of Tennessee 1932.
And there is really clear what the, licensing of, of automobiles was about. Now there's a they had an article as titled privileges taxable and, registration of cars and things under that, is where that that that occurs. And it says in the first section of this, article, it says privileges, the occupations, businesses, and business transactions deemed privileges are to be taxed and not pursued without license and so be such as are declared by this code or by legislative acts which are not not to be deemed repealed by the enactment of this code. So licensing the, car for use as a vehicle is like a business privilege that you buy by paying a tax.
And if it's not that, and the thing to do, I think, is go to the, different bodies, the, city councils, county, the county officials, legislative officials, and point out that the police are not being taught what this means, and they're misapplying it. And put it on them that now that they know what's been happening, they have a duty to, to, take care of it, to see to it that their all their law enforcement know how to use the, def legal definition of vehicle in order to apply it properly. And if they refuse to do that, now you can sue them for intentionally not training their their, personnel in this.
[01:35:54] Unknown:
And, Alma, this is what I said about us needing to be educators. But these these people, the local authorities, they just maybe a small percentage understand, but not many. Hey, Danny.
[01:36:10] Unknown:
Hello? Yes?
[01:36:12] Unknown:
Yes? Okay. Yeah. This is Bob.
[01:36:15] Unknown:
Okay. Hey. In a minute, Shane. Go ahead, Bob.
[01:36:19] Unknown:
You've been listening long enough. I'm sure you remember Tom Schramm's example of if he was going and getting gizzard shad and selling them at the local bait store that his car was being used in commerce. Do you remember that from eight or ten years ago?
[01:36:33] Unknown:
I don't know if he was around back then.
[01:36:38] Unknown:
Well, here's the thing. At least in Florida and under the uniform code, I'm guessing everywhere, that's not true. If you don't specifically bill for that activity, I e the transportation of the gizzard shed, it is not commercial.
[01:36:54] Unknown:
Oh, you guys have an invoice and a payment and everything. Okay.
[01:36:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I was I was delving into the code here a month ago, and I got into that deal with the taillight or the tag light. And exactly what you're saying, Danny, and you're a 100% correct. Vehicle is a commercial term. And, in in in going through all the minutiae of the vehicle and all the commercial thing, it came to light that if you had a truck transporting goods, but you weren't billing for the transport, it was just accessory to get the product to market, you could claim it was not commercially used. Even though it was being used to further the commercial activity, it wasn't being billed for that particular purpose. I thought that was interesting.
I yield.
[01:37:45] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Bob. And that's interesting. All those SRAM's examples were still illustrated, but he just didn't have the technical part of it correct. Thank you. Now, Shane.
[01:37:59] Unknown:
Yes, Roger. I would just like to welcome, Alma to, the club. And, also, I'd like to say that in order to, get a license or permission to do something which is otherwise illegal is to get, in not not insurance, but by a a bond. $25 $2,500, bond in, like, your insurance agencies. That's a form of, collateral, and you can use that as a, insurance. And, yes, the state has your, ID. Like, here in California, it's California ID. There would be New Jersey ID. So, yeah, it is stuff that you shoot over, and, I'm over. I'm done.
[01:39:01] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Shane. Let's see who else have we got this morning here. How much time? Aya, Caramba. We got over to somebody. Okay. Somebody else got something to add. How do you Roger. Just had to reboot my computer from that electrical outage, and it boots up and the mouse and the pointer in there. Anything you can do, Paul, for that?
[01:39:27] Unknown:
I don't know why. Think of right off the bat? The pointer's not there?
[01:39:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's weird. Alright. Go ahead, Larry. It's just one goddamn
[01:39:36] Unknown:
You can try unplugging What? Try unplugging the mouse and plug it back in again.
[01:39:41] Unknown:
Alright. Let's see. Anyway, it came back. I just did the control, alt, delete, and it came back. Okay, Larry. Yes, sir?
[01:39:51] Unknown:
So so I think there's something a lot of students aren't, considering when they're attempting to drive without a license, and that is, most states require you to have a license in order to get insurance. And, and the thing is, if you even let it expire, like, you know, just to have it as a form of ID, most insurance companies are smart enough because they don't wanna have to pay out claims. They're smart enough that in their policy, they have it written that they reserve their right to deny a claim if it's found out that a license was expired, suspended, or the person was driving without a license.
So, you know, that's something you need to consider and consider wisely because, you know, if if you damage someone's property and, you know, and there's hospital bills involved or even a death, you know, and it and you had some semblance of fault in the situation, I mean, they could come and take your property, your home, you know, so something to consider.
[01:41:05] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. Boy, I'm glad I don't have to have a car. Yes. Yes. Who's that? Azan? Samuel. Oh, yeah. Okay, Samuel.
[01:41:18] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, in in the core documents along with the affidavits, I mentioned the declaration of independence. Well, that's from Lee Bros USA, the house, the the republic, the house that nobody lives in. And that really gets into the detail of being public and private. And that notice that he recommends is called the declaration of independence. In one paragraph, it denounces all of these documents, these adhesion contracts that we have gotten into. It says, any and all past and present political ties implied by separate by operation of law or otherwise or otherwise in trust with the democracy is hereby dissolved.
So all those detailed things that we may not even know about that we entered into by that statement and then publish again in the paper of record puts you outside of your and a good notice for all your local authorities in and you get a certified, report from the paper saying that this was published according to state statute for the period of time that it was supposed to be posted.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Don't doesn't your affidavit take care of all that? All those things are based on fraud because you were, fraudulently
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used. And your system is the reinforcement,
[01:42:51] Unknown:
Roger, locally. Okay. Well, if somebody wants to okay. If somebody wants to do it, go do it. K?
[01:42:59] Unknown:
And then that that gets you put in the stack with the affidavits and the the the land patent, the elodium, you know, and it's sent to the AG. Listen, guy. This is this is who I am, and please respect me. And, you know, don't try to contact me outside of the rule book here. And if you have a problem with it, please answer me within a certain period of time. Otherwise, I I'm gonna find you an agreement with me. Right? So you're so. You're you're re you're arming yourself to be that droid they don't want to touch.
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K.
[01:43:48] Unknown:
These aren't the Well, the good side is, you know, if the new world orders plans come through, none of you will have a car in a couple of years anyway.
[01:43:59] Unknown:
Exactly. That's really what I'm preparing for is what they're going to do to to confiscate land, to confiscate things like cars, etcetera. It just a preemptive like, okay. You know? I mean, I'm different. I'm just saying I'm different, and I'm and ultimately, all my documents prior to the constitution, I have the lord first, that document second, etcetera.
[01:44:31] Unknown:
Yes, sir.
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50 cows and offenders.
[01:44:36] Unknown:
What is this? Microsoft always wants to screw with you somehow. I hate these people. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Alright. I got a couple of minutes left. What's going on? I assume there's no no need people for Shane. Well, good. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Who Yep. And you are?
[01:45:10] Unknown:
Can you hear me? This is Rachel?
[01:45:13] Unknown:
Yes. It's Rachel. Okay. Cool. Didn't recognize your voice yet. She's got a question for you, Shane.
[01:45:20] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:45:21] Unknown:
Okay. Shane, do you have this documentation somewhere that if people people could and an explanation of it so that if somebody decided to do that, they could easily, you know, peruse your stuff and and copy it for themselves and utilize it.
[01:45:45] Unknown:
Never, thought about it like that, but the affidavit is for me and, for my personal capacity. And, no. I I I cannot answer your question. Sorry. I I I have never thought about
[01:46:05] Unknown:
He's about He doesn't have anything. He doesn't have anything like that, Rachel. So I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Thank you. Alright.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
So who else? Sorry. I thought it was a good question anyway. Yeah. You know, Edward, no
[01:46:18] Unknown:
no no harm. No foul. Yep. Who else is wanting to say something there?
[01:46:24] Unknown:
I I hope people, copy what I write what I wrote down, but to each their own. K, Rachel?
[01:46:35] Unknown:
I'm here. Uh-huh.
[01:46:39] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:46:40] Unknown:
So you haven't done that. You're saying that that might be a good idea to do that?
[01:46:48] Unknown:
Yes. If you'd like to, we can talk about this after the show.
[01:46:53] Unknown:
Sure.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
Sure. Why not? K. Thank you. Which is got a few more minutes left, and then, nobody's got anything else dying you want to bring up here today? So, if you don't, can we talk about anything private
[01:47:10] Unknown:
after the show? If anyone wants to talk about anything private at the end of the show, I will turn on the ability to switch rooms. And if you dialed in, dial 31, and that'll put you in Room Number 1. Or 32, that'll put you in Room Number 2. Or if you're, in by the client, you can go into, your, like, little menu thing. I'm not exactly sure how you move from room to room. I think you just open the participant list and click on your three dots next to your name and select move to, and it'll move you to another room. The main room is the only one that's recorded and broadcast.
So wanna talk about something private made off in another room, and you guys will have your own private little corner. Just saying.
[01:48:01] Unknown:
Very interesting. Okay. Thank you for that info.
[01:48:04] Unknown:
You're welcome. Mister mister wizard there. Yeah. Mister wizard. Well, I didn't know if you didn't hear from Dan. Dan in Alaska. Alaska Dan, our new guy, was it John in Idaho we spoke with last week? He's I ain't popped his head up since. It was great to hear from Tom last week to start the show with his, successes. And, so we just you never know weekend to weekend. Of course, this is the Saturday before Thanksgiving. Next week will be abbreviated week, and, we'll probably, just just play a replay, Paul, at least Thursday.
And I can't imagine having a show on Saturday next week with the taking people not be with their family or friends on the holiday. So you think we ought to have a live show next Saturday or not? I don't know. Why don't you noodle on it? Noodle on it. We'll make the decision in a few days. For sure, we won't have one on Thursday, but we will have one on Friday, with, Brent, of course. And we just don't like missing those. And I don't know what the hell I'd do with four days on my hands, quite frankly. So, interesting time of the year. We go into the holidays.
I think didn't somebody say Christmas and New Year's are on Thursday this year? Yeah. We discussed that the other day. Okay, so we'll have the same basic scenario. Thursday off and, we'll roll on. So the, New Year's, we will I don't know if we'll have a show that Saturday or not. As, Ted Kennedy said, we'll drive off that bridge when we get to it. So nobody else has got anything you want to inject here? I know. I'm a poor taste kinda guy at times. That was a Yes, Julie. But not like not like our not like our wallflower, Julie. Yes, Julie. Good morning.
[01:50:14] Unknown:
Good morning. Happy Saturday to everybody. Can you hear me okay?
[01:50:18] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Loud and clear.
[01:50:22] Unknown:
So there's a guy that was on the fourth news. His name is, I think Jordan Maxwell. Are you familiar with him? He's dead now. Yes. I am. Yep. He, his video was playing, like, at the top, and then it just got removed. And, I was just listening to some old speeches that he gave. And, then all of a sudden when I went back, the video had been removed, but I found it on YouTube. I found all the stuff that he said extremely relevant for everything we're going through right now, and thank God we're nationals. Because basically what he said was he said if you hire an attorney
[01:51:13] Unknown:
that you're known as a client by law No. No. And that Don't don't Hey. Jordan Maxwell knows a lot about symbols, but he don't know shit about law, in my opinion. He also gonna tell you you're an admiralty law and all that stuff. He doesn't know this stuff. He's the expert on symbols. I got no quib quibbles with him there, Julie. But a lot of his law stuff, he don't know what the shit he's talking about. Okay?
[01:51:41] Unknown:
Well, it was kind his most of the stuff was, about, the the concept of where the word god came from, and it was mostly about religions. But, he also mentioned the book, the 1984 book where Julian Huxley wrote the foreword. And and the foreword was written so long ago, and it basically said as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase, and the dictator, unless he needs canon father or or families with which to colonialize empty or conquered territories will do well to encourage that freedom in conjunction with the freedom to daydream under the influence of narcotics, radio, television, and the movies, and it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude, which is now their fate.
And so he was just I find it interesting that they were talking about this all the way back then. But his, he talks a lot about words, and you're right, and symbols and stuff, and talks about the divine being and goes back to all of the Greek and the ancient Egyptian religions and stuff like that. So it's very, very interesting Well listening. She wasn't really talking that much about law in here.
[01:53:13] Unknown:
Well, he has at times. Other videos earlier, he has. And he's gonna tell you you're an admiral to law and you're a ship sailing on the land and all that bullshit. K? So, he but he knows a lot about symbols. But let me ask you this. Why didn't he ever pick up or put out or put together that the pyramid was the symbol of feudalism?
[01:53:37] Unknown:
He does that. He did that in this video. Oh, did he? Okay. I never heard him do that or in the sign. Video. He did. He talks about the triangle. He talks about the triangle on top of the pyramid. It was very interesting. It wasn't he only said something that was funny in the beginning, Roger. He basically said if you hire an attorney, you're known as a client by law. Clients are called, wards of the court in regard to the relationship with their attorney, and he said black law black law defines a ward of a court as an infant or a person of unsound mind. Therefore, if you hire an attorney by law, you're an idiot. It was really funny the way he said it. And then he was like, if you had any brains, you wouldn't be in court. Why do you why do you have to go to court? You play tennis on a court with a racket. And he says the whole thing's a racket. I mean, it was just really funny, how he started out his his speech, but it's over two hours long.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Yep. He's a very good guy. He had an uncle who was, in The Vatican when he was young, who would every couple of years come back to The US and sit down and tell him all this stuff. And that's where he got all his Cymbals knowledge or at least the initiation of it. So, yeah, he died
[01:54:48] Unknown:
three, four years ago, I think, if I remember right. Yeah. It was, like, four years ago, I think he died. Yeah. But, anyway, I they're trying to take down his videos. I just found the one today was I thought the one today was just excellent. And again, most of the time he was talking about, people, listening but not hearing and people seeing but not comprehending what's going on. And he was just he's really he's been a theologian, whatever, theologian at with astronomy for so many years. And I just found it very, very interesting to get here from a different a different perspective from somebody else. Yep.
[01:55:27] Unknown:
There there there's an awful lot of people, that have laid down their life in this effort that if you're new, you have no idea of some of the stories. Yes. Who is the guy there?
[01:55:39] Unknown:
With Samuel, I had a question for Julie. I was wondering if, she got the Rick Wilds piece on the Fintranet?
[01:55:49] Unknown:
I think I did, and I didn't haven't had a chance to watch it yet,
[01:55:52] Unknown:
Samuel. I like your opinion when you have a chance. I'm going to watch that. Thank you. It's not a video. It's it's it's script. You have to read it. Okay. Yep. Thank you. You're welcome. Who sent it to you? I couldn't because I didn't have your email.
[01:56:07] Unknown:
I have it. I I download it from, I can't remember which site. So if anybody needs it, I can forward it to them. It's Rick Wiles, if you got the right one. Yep. It's Rick Wiles. Yep. That's the one. Yep. Good good guy, Rick Wiles.
[01:56:23] Unknown:
So who else has got, something to add or ask here at the closing minutes of the Saturday, the twenty second? We hadn't even mentioned it one time. On November 22 Roger.
[01:56:36] Unknown:
I've got something quick. Commemoration
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of the assassination of John f Kennedy.
[01:56:42] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. What's your website again? Something.paulbiener.com?
[01:56:47] Unknown:
Notice.paulbiener.com.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:56:52] Unknown:
Alright. There were several people. Dave being one of them. Dave? Wouldn't that Dave want to say something?
[01:57:02] Unknown:
That was Larry. Yeah. Ralph. Okay. I I had pulled up a anyway, my phone. Hi, everybody. So for Alma, you know, she said her husband likes to hunt and fish. I would highly recommend, you know, I don't know what what your finances look like, but, you know, if you can get your own hunting property with a pond, you know, and, instead of going out shooting the king's deer and stealing his fish, you know, with a with a license, you, you know, you just have your own property. You take care of your own needs, you know, fishing for fun or food or, you know, gathering, you know, venison for food, you know, learn how to process it yourself. You ain't gotta worry about those, you know, the the king sheriffs and and all of his men trying to steal Humpty Dumpty all over again.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Okay. Good idea. Well, there's you. Alright. Larry, there's the whistler, but go what your question's short on?
[01:58:11] Unknown:
Oh, it's short. So all an attorney is is an agent. We learned that in Brent's first trust class, and that's exactly what it says in in, Black's law. The definition encompasses both private agents authorized by power of attorney, which is an attorney in fact, and those authorized to act in a legal capacity. Its core definition is one who is appointed to act for another in their place.
[01:58:41] Unknown:
In their stead. There you go. More patriot mythology dashed along the edge of the road. Correct. Our, little week's almost over, but not quite, Paul.
[01:58:53] Unknown:
Not yet. Not yet. Before the show ends, don't forget. Don't forget, the matrixstocks.com. The upper left hand corner, there is a link for give sand go forward slash radio ranch support. Think about sending a coffee or something like that. I've come to the realization that I need uninterrupted power sources to keep this stuff from failing. Just like Rogers has one, and it kept him on the air during his power outage. There he is. Also, go to Gibson Go and, look at Rogers Sales Dental Journey. And, check that one out too. Thank you everybody for all your support and contribution. Have
[01:59:36] Unknown:
a great abbreviated weekend. We'll see you on Monday, hopefully. Okay. Ciao. Hey. Rach, you and, Shane can go at it. I'm gonna go, do other things. And unless anybody's got anything pressing for me, I am g o n e. Roger.
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Well, you forgot. I forgot. I have one other question. Okay. It has to do with my passport. I have a current passport. What do you do about that?
[02:00:08] Unknown:
You you have a well, you just do what do you have? A passport or a passport?
[02:00:16] Unknown:
Yes. I have a passport.
[02:00:19] Unknown:
Alright. Then and and how many years has it got left?
[02:00:25] Unknown:
Well, up to twenty twenty seven, I think.
[02:00:28] Unknown:
One moment. Okay. Well, you can do two things. You can go ahead and get a new book and and and but what you're wanting this time is a passport card, particularly. Have you tried do you travel internationally? I have. Mhmm. I would like to continue to Well, if you well, if you have plans to or whatever, you're gonna need the book. So you'll get both. You can just get a renewal, d s 80 2, and pay $30 and get a card right now. And then when your other book expires, you can get another book. K? But it doesn't matter when you're traveling internationally if you're a national or not. That passport card is used for inside The US and our activity. Some people, it's the only ID they carry is that passport card.
K?
[02:01:20] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Very good. Yeah. Well, I cannot find the book. I've lost it somehow. Uh-oh. But I know.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
Well, you better you you need to you need to find that out because they're going to want you to send that book, I think, in with the application to get a passport card. And if you don't have it, then you're gonna have to fill out a form called the lost or stolen form. And even though you've already got a passport, they're gonna make you go back to the D S 11, the first one, and start all over again. So you need to find out if you've lost it or if you've misplaced it.
[02:02:05] Unknown:
I've misplaced it. I just have no idea where I have looked, how I'm looking for it. I moved when I was building this house.
[02:02:13] Unknown:
Right. And every Well Yeah. Now, Rach, there's 8,000,000 stories in the naked city. Alright. If you can't find it, you're gonna have to tell them it's lost or stolen, and then or they won't process just a card. You'll have to go back to D S 11. Okay? So you noodle on that and see where you need to go, but that is nothing to it. It's not complex, but you're gonna have to have that passport that's open or else report it lost or stolen. K? Now there was a guy trying to say something through that whole explanation there.
[02:02:49] Unknown:
It's it's me, Roger. Alma again. Alma. Alma. Yes, Alma. Yeah. Just a quick, comment. As the, the show was progressing, we received our mail, and we just got our kids' passports.
[02:03:06] Unknown:
My son and dad's passport. So You're not interested in buy them books? Did you get books or just cards?
[02:03:14] Unknown:
Books. Books. They got their books. I didn't get cards for them. For because any of us, we got books and cards.
[02:03:20] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then this is what I would suggest that you might wanna look into. How old are your children?
[02:03:28] Unknown:
Ricardo, our son, is 15, and Sol, our daughter, she's 10.
[02:03:34] Unknown:
You can go in every state will have ID cards that are just like a driver's license that they issue to Friday. Take an affidavit and go to the driver's license division, and and you you use in the in the process, give them the affidavit for a for an ID, and then they'll be on that'll be in the records in the state of New Jersey as an ID, and they'll have an ID as a national.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
Oh,
[02:04:09] Unknown:
okay. So I go to the DMV, take the affidavit, and then request an ID. And I give the affidavit,
[02:04:18] Unknown:
so they can issue an ID as an Well, they're gonna ask a bunch of well, they're gonna they're gonna charge you a few dollars, not much. They're gonna ask you questions. Are you a citizen? Are you a resident? Where do you live? And then you're gonna get your picture taken if this is the process still. And then you're gonna have a New Jersey ID for your children, but in the background, it'll be tied to your their affidavit in the records.
[02:04:45] Unknown:
Oh, thank you. That's Yep. That's nice to know that. You could also
[02:04:50] Unknown:
well, and you could also, do the same thing and just go back and and do a renewal with with their passport and just order a passport card, and that'll cost you about $30. So you could do either one. Okay?
[02:05:06] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, one thing that I noticed in their passports, I don't know if this, you know, something, like, that they just updated in their data, but their old passports don't have don't start with the letter. Now these ones, it starts with the letter.
[02:05:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't have any idea on their nomenclature and stuff. Sometimes, you know, they have numbers and series of numbers on the passport card that will, at times, we think, denote a status. O nine is actually American Samoa, but they use it for nationals. We've seen people identified as ambassadors at large. We've seen people, identified as couriers with the nomenclature. So they don't always put national, but those other things would be equivalent to a national. Mhmm. So there's a good few things for you to think about. Alright? Sure. Thank you. You're so welcome, Alma. We're glad to have you.
Okay. Anybody else for me?
[02:06:17] Unknown:
Roger. Hey, Roger. This is Kathy. I'm a first time caller.
[02:06:22] Unknown:
Hey, Kathy. Where you been? Oh, we were looking for you. I'm in Minnesota. We're looking for you during the show. Well, okay. You have what? A question?
[02:06:33] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got a question. So, I've been a professional driver my entire life until I had a work comp injury, so I haven't driven I haven't been gainfully employed since 2007, but I plan to drive again if in the near future, Everything all the trucks aren't robotic by that time, which they may be. I'm 65 years old. So but I wanted to maintain my commercial driver's license, my class a license. Okay. My driver's license expired on my birthday, 01/08/2025. In December, I went in to get it renewed. I had a name change and an address change. I the address I used was, a postal mailbox at the UPS store. Now it took me a whole year to get all of my documents, bank statements, and everything I needed transferred over to that, postal mailbox address so that I would have all the documents I needed for the name change and the address change. They gave me my paper temporary driver's license, but they would not give me my card, my driver's license card. They sent me a letter saying that I needed to have my resident's address on there, and I've been battling them for ever since then. My temporary paper driver's license has expired, and I'm having really difficulty doing things such as banking.
It's really, really getting to be problematic. I was I'm kinda tired of fighting with them over the driver's license. I was thinking of going directly to getting a passport. What do you think about that idea, and what's the quickest way I can get a passport?
[02:08:38] Unknown:
Well, go to get a passport application, send it in, and and you could expedite it. But my advice is that if you pay extra for that to have a travel plans, Norm, do you want to line to them? Going somewhere. I yeah. I I mean, I I I'm not sure about how to tell you to say to help you, quite frankly. The problem is the state driver's license. First of all, they who who won't accept that you don't have a residence on it?
[02:09:17] Unknown:
Kathy did sent me a letter. The DMV did or whatever. So somebody somebody suggested I go down there in person and ask them to show me the statute or the law that says I must have a residence address.
[02:09:41] Unknown:
Kathy, I'm not sure what to tell you. Also the the
[02:09:46] Unknown:
the requirements for a commercial driver's license changed in, like, February, and I got my, you know, renewal done in in December. So those changes shouldn't have been in effect then. I'm driving right now, so I don't, I don't recall what all the changes are. But
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Comment?
[02:10:11] Unknown:
I I have a I don't Kathy, I don't know how to how to help you. Julie, can you help me?
[02:10:16] Unknown:
I have a post office box address on my driver's license, so I'll try to look up the law. I don't think there is a law that you have to actually have to have a physical, address on your driver's license. I just think they have to have that in their system, but they could've put it be a PO box. I've had a PO box forever.
[02:10:34] Unknown:
They they want it to be a PO box. This is at the U UPS store. So it's a it's a physical address at the UPS.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
They want it especially if you're trying to buy a firearm, Julie. They wanna know where you live. So we had somebody, he wouldn't sell him a firearm because it didn't all he gave him was a passport card, no address on it. So he went next door to the fishing license and bought a fishing license. And on the license, he put his address, and he went back to the gun shop and showed him the fishing license with the address, and they sold it to him.
[02:11:13] Unknown:
The driver's license has so many books and caveats. The commercial driver's license. I tried to get No. Well, the the commercial driver's license is an extension of the, the US DMV or DOT. What they what they want to know is they wanna know that you're a resident of the state, so all the statutes, tax, codes, and bullshit that goes along with that driver's license actually applies to you. And so what they're trying to do is they're trying to establish residency. So, if you want, you can go in and renew your driver's license right now. Go in and renew it. Take your paper driver's license. You can tell them that tell them that I need to renew this license because you refused to send me the plastic license unless I use my physical domicile location.
I do not have an address, the domicile location. And then within three days of getting your your, your renewed license, just send a send send a notice to your state DMV saying that I don't waive any of my rights. I don't agree to any hidden contracts. And if they pulled a license, then, you're not gonna be driving commercially, which I don't think you're gonna wanna be doing anyways because, all the trucks are, satellite and Qualcomm equipped. They have both front facing and rear facing cameras. They're gonna be watching everything you do, and your entire life is going to be rigidly, rigidly managed by the US Department of Transportation and the, FMCSA.
Kathy,
[02:13:04] Unknown:
Kathy doesn't even know what they're asking her when they ask if she's a resident, okay? So this is after the last show of the week. So, Kathy, we're here six days a week, dear. People will stick around here, can help you. But like I said, you don't even understand what they're asking you when they ask are you a resident. K? So
[02:13:27] Unknown:
if you're driving around with
[02:13:29] Unknown:
story. Oh, god. I mean, yeah, you can you can get that information, but you're not gonna get it out of me today. But hang around next week. Come back any day, six days a week. We're almost always here. Next Thursday, of course, no. But we'll school you up on all this. Okay?
[02:13:48] Unknown:
And I'll have you on
[02:13:49] Unknown:
the subject of this.
[02:13:51] Unknown:
Okay. Sounds good. Alright. Thank you. Dave, you're gonna CDL Wait a minute. Dave's gonna school you up a little bit. Fast forward story. Okay. I'm go ahead, Dave.
[02:14:03] Unknown:
Okay. I know a guy in Colorado. He's been a a owner operator for twenty years or so. He naturalized. He got his passport card, and he got in an accident in his truck. It was his fault. He he, state cops showed up. He handed him his passport card, and the cops said, what's this? He said, they told me to use that now. So he takes the card to his car. He comes back. I guess in Colorado, they when you get a ticket, they print it out like a cash register receipt out of some machine or something in his car or something, and it it rolls up. You know? He said he walked up to him. The cop did, and they was standing outside. The cop, his jacket had a top pocket on it, a chest pocket.
The cop rolled up that ticket. He you're supposed to sign a ticket in Colorado. He rolled it up. He shoved it in the guy's top pocket, and then he told them what to do to get out of the ticket. And then after that, he helped him secure, you know, the h bumper behind your trailer? Yes. He that thing was swinging out into traffic, and he helped him resecure that to his truck. It took about twenty five or thirty minutes, and and then he let him go. He didn't call the DOT for an inspection on the side of the road to look for a 100 violations and give him a bunch of tickets for it, he sent him on his way.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
So That was a nice cop. I didn't know there were many left.
[02:15:55] Unknown:
Well, there's a few out there. They're not all rogue. And this this probably happened. He got his, he did the he did his passport back in around 2019, and, that happened not long after he did that. It was probably in 2019 when it happened. And, I haven't spoken with the guy, you know, since then. So I don't know, you know, what's transpired over the time frame, but, that's just one story. Like Roger says, there's 8,000,000 stories in the the naked city. So
[02:16:35] Unknown:
Dave, the he might have been told to be nice.
[02:16:40] Unknown:
Mhmm. Say it again.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
He might have been told to be nice when he looked it up.
[02:16:47] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. When he looked up that, he this man was a national, and he had a do not detain, and he must help him in his travels. So he never this guy had never experienced anything like that in the twenty years he was behind the wheel. You know, you get in a wreck. Oh my god. They got DOT all over your vehicle looking for violations to nail you with. And he didn't I'm sure he had them, but he didn't he didn't look for them. He sent them on his way. Mhmm. I mean, it's a rare story that don't happen to everybody, but I you I'm pretty sure it was that that passport card being a national was what made all that transpire, and I yield.
[02:17:33] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:17:37] Unknown:
He's gone.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Roger's gone?
[02:17:45] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:17:47] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Because, who is the student asking about, getting a license renewed? Who is this?
[02:17:54] Unknown:
Kathy in Minnesota.
[02:17:56] Unknown:
Are you wanting to renew your CDL?
[02:18:00] Unknown:
Well, I wanted to.
[02:18:02] Unknown:
Yes. That's what I did when I Yeah. So you you can't university. You you can't use, Julie's idea of a PO box with a CDL. You have to have a physical street address, and you must provide two proofs of residence. And that's because the state's Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requires a physical address for the CDO, and it must be verifiable with documents like a rental agreement, your if you have a utility bill or voter registration card, etcetera. So, yeah, that that I know because on the That's the problem. All my
[02:18:44] Unknown:
paperwork has my UPS store address. I would have to get all my paperwork changed. I'd have to have my bank. I'm not gonna change all my paperwork.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
Well, then you you could get a regular license, but you you may be able to get another I can't say for sure. You may be able to get a regular license, but you certainly won't be able to get a a CDL. I know that as a fact because one time I moved and you got so many weeks to
[02:19:16] Unknown:
report. This was going way back when. Why did they give me the paper temporary one then? That's my issue. They gave me the paper temporary one.
[02:19:27] Unknown:
They gave you a temporary commercial driver's license?
[02:19:30] Unknown:
Yes. I have the paper one, but then they wouldn't send me the card. Well well, they may have not
[02:19:36] Unknown:
when it's expired. They may they may have been going on old information and just issued that out of a courtesy without really investigating the fact, but you definitely gotta have a physical address on a commercial driver's license. I know that as a fact. So Well, I You know? And if you ever move, you have to report it within a certain period of time.
[02:19:58] Unknown:
The UPS store is a physical address, though.
[02:20:02] Unknown:
No. Hey, Kelsey. No. I'm a see, I'm a CDL holder. I've been driving for for about twenty seven years, and, I mean, I know what I'm talking about. Is that all? And, anyway not. But but at any rate If you you have to have your home address on that CDL.
[02:20:23] Unknown:
Over here in Nevada, a friend of mine, he's deceased now. He had a UPS store address, and he had a CDL b with a p endorsement, and they were fine with it. And I think the UPS store does serve as a physical address.
[02:20:42] Unknown:
They can't tell. There's a big difference between a a b and an a, Brent.
[02:20:49] Unknown:
Well, whatever. But I think that'll work. Have you used the Minnesota address before, or how long have you had the right long in
[02:21:04] Unknown:
for about fifty years.
[02:21:07] Unknown:
Okay. Well, why isn't it working now? They're
[02:21:13] Unknown:
They're starting I don't know because I had a name change and an address change. I used to be in the safe at home address confidentiality program, and I'm no longer in that. And then I had a name change, so I had to have documents from this column and documents from that column. I had to have all these documents. And, I had all the documents, and now they say that address I can't use that address.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
So I I kind of Do you have any do you have any friends with a house
[02:21:45] Unknown:
that you can use their address? Know, but then I'm gonna have to get all of my documents changed over to my friend's address.
[02:21:53] Unknown:
Kathy, can I ask you? What do you haul? Do you are you an owner owner operator, or do you work for somebody else?
[02:22:01] Unknown:
I'm currently not driving because I'm disabled, but I plan to go back to driving.
[02:22:07] Unknown:
And and what do you wanna haul? Because I I got a buddy in South Dakota. He he he drives a semi for a an owner. Right? This guy owns a farm, and he hauls hay, and he hauls that guy's own stuff, and he don't need a CDL.
[02:22:30] Unknown:
No.
[02:22:31] Unknown:
You know, if you work for the owner of the of the of the truck and you haul his goods, you don't need a CDL.
[02:22:42] Unknown:
Well, I used to work for the City of Minneapolis Public Works department for twenty some years. That's where I had my work in the county. Yeah. You need one for that.
[02:22:53] Unknown:
Yeah. What I've what I've what I've been doing when they insist on a, physical, and I call it a location because an address is a commercial term, I give them my meets and bounds. Certified recorded document from the county that says exactly where I am according to survey. That's a real location. That's not a phony address. They're all phony.
[02:23:23] Unknown:
I would give them the meets and bounds of the UPS store then?
[02:23:28] Unknown:
Oh, no. I would be giving them the meets and bounds if they're refusing that address because I would use that first so. Of my my land.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
Well, I don't want the pigs on my property at all. Both my mother and my husband were put into fraudulent guardianships where they were both murdered. I got a real aversion to having pigs on my property. I don't want them anywhere around that property. I get that. I don't wanna give them my anything to do if they've been chomping at the bit to find out my address since I got out of the safe at home program. And Okay. You got I'm not gonna play their game. I'll give up my my CDL before I'll list anything where I physically am
[02:24:23] Unknown:
Can you speak right into the microphone?
[02:24:27] Unknown:
Clean up. Sure. Am I And that's the beauty
[02:24:30] Unknown:
and that's the beauty of the passport card. It doesn't have an address on it. Oh, hey.
[02:24:38] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
And now we got we got pulled over in our, you know, our automobile. My wife did, and she handed this it was the state cop in Michigan. She handed him her passport card, and he said, you know, what's this? Why, you know, what is this? And she said, well, that's my ID. That's what I use. He said, why? And she said, because it doesn't show my location. And he said, that's smart. And he we had a center light out, you know, brake light in the back, and he let us go.
[02:25:21] Unknown:
K. I like I said, I think that's the route I'm gonna go. Thank you, guys.
[02:25:36] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome. I
[02:25:37] Unknown:
yield.
[02:25:40] Unknown:
Now someone had a question for me, Shane. I got my pen and paper out ready.
[02:26:07] Unknown:
I think that was Rachel wanting to ask you, Jane. Rachel.
[02:26:11] Unknown:
I'm here. Alright. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And we all know the pen is mightier than the sword.
[02:26:19] Unknown:
It does. Thank you.
[02:26:22] Unknown:
May I, before Rachel and Shane
[02:26:27] Unknown:
Sure.
[02:26:28] Unknown:
Exchange information. I just want everybody to know that I changed my mailing address, you know, to the carrier route and, point of delivery as Joe Lustica suggested. And I got my first registered mail and that was no problem. But then I got a notice from the postmaster and he informed me that I needed to use my 911 emergency address. And so I found that quite notable and interesting that your address is under the 911 system. Has anybody else encountered that, known about it? And now that Samuel has said that you used your meets and bounds, I'm not I'm not sure I wanna do that but it seems like an option to rebut what he has said.
And I think, receiving mail already at that rural route number that that's prima facie evidence. They know. So, anyway, any thoughts in that regard would be much appreciated. I yield.
[02:28:03] Unknown:
Yes. I believe that the meeting bounds are for the census. The census is pretty much like they do all kinds of documentation on you, you as the, person for them to make them money. So we need some balance, within the census. There's, disidentification. How much to tax you? How much to get money from you? Where your water's coming from? What are you all this stuff?
[02:28:53] Unknown:
I'm out.
[02:28:55] Unknown:
Sherry, did you say you did a nondomestic post office mail stop with your rural route?
[02:29:07] Unknown:
Well, they don't have, blocks on the change of address for all of that. I just did the rural route number, which is your carrier route number, and then, the point of delivery being the box number.
[02:29:27] Unknown:
We changed our address from an address to a rural route, nondomestic post office mail stop. It's right in the postal regulations right out of their book. And Oh, okay. They haven't walked at it.
[02:29:47] Unknown:
Okay. So, Dave, how how did you, insert all that onto the change of address form?
[02:29:55] Unknown:
I don't know. I just know we did it.
[02:30:00] Unknown:
Would Pam know? Because I just put R R and,
[02:30:08] Unknown:
I can barely hear you.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sorry. You know, my cell phone will not allow me to hear the call anymore.
[02:30:17] Unknown:
I can call in, but I can't hear anything. Uh-huh. Wow. You need to get a TracFone. Get a TracFone. They're $20. $20 a month, unlimited calling, texting. And if you want Internet, you get four gigs for $20. If you want more, you get you know, each $10 increment, you get more gigs of data.
[02:30:41] Unknown:
Well, thank you for that. And it works.
[02:30:43] Unknown:
And I live out in the country, and, yeah, it it works perfectly everywhere on my property, in my basement, anywhere.
[02:30:53] Unknown:
What I do for my UPS type location is, I use in care of nondomestic, but then the rest of the address is pretty much standard fare except, punctuation and brackets on things.
[02:31:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Look up nondomestic post office mail stop, and that's what everybody should do at their homes or their houses. Non domestic post office mail stop.
[02:31:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't use anything for that address ever. I keep it at that post office so that it's off the land.
[02:31:45] Unknown:
You're you're, not really understandable there, Samuel.
[02:31:51] Unknown:
I could hear him clearly.
[02:31:53] Unknown:
Can you? Uh-huh.
[02:31:55] Unknown:
So it's nondomestic post office mail stop. Is that what you said, Dave? And look up the regulations regarding that.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Yes. Nondomestic post office mail stop.
[02:32:11] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you very kindly. You know what was brought to my mind when rural free delivery? You know, there used to be a shift. RSD. Mayberry RSD. Yep. So and it hasn't went away, So it has to be there. But, It's still there. Correct. And so what you're saying here is is the same thing as RFD, rule free delivery. They still have to deliver it. Okay.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
My thinking that. My thinking about it is when you put in care of nondomestic, what you're saying is you're not routing it through the federal government's post office. Correct.
[02:33:01] Unknown:
Correct. We don't use a we don't use a ZIP code.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
I put mine in parentheses. I put my suite number in parentheses because it's the same stuff. And then the rest is punctuation that these things are separated by colons and semicolons to show that they're all by themselves and not one thing. That's the way team law does it. That's where I got a lot of that from. The the the newest thing I added though to The United States Of America is to your lowercase u in square brackets because that donates the articles confederation and the original constitution used it that way. That wasn't changed until our buddy, Lincoln.
[02:33:57] Unknown:
My wife said that Joe Lustica has a training on the nondomestic post office mail stop on his Rumble channel. I yield.
[02:34:17] Unknown:
And for commercial drivers, I think you can apply the doctrine of necessity there as well. It's a necessity that you drive, but you're not waiving your rights as a state national or a state citizen. I think that gives you if you tell them that and they don't refute it or you do what Terry Lee did, and he went down to the his DMV, I think, is in Washington state. And he, he asked them to put a Christian name on his driver's license and maybe a few other things. And when they refused, he had cause to say, okay. Understand.
Just give me a certified letter that you refused to change these things, and then he uses that if he ends up in a quarter that he he did not want a license. He wanted to be recognized as a Christian. So that's that's the long way around. I think if you use a doctrine of necessity, and you word that properly, you can you're making a claim that, okay, I'm doing this because I have to survive. That's that's a necessity for sure. And then you tell them that you're not waiving your rights according to your affidavit as that state citizen.
[02:35:53] Unknown:
What about travel, license?
[02:35:58] Unknown:
We're traveling. We're not we're not You can make that in your statement in your doctrine, Bruce. You can just tell them that you're not a resident, which would would give you that license anyways. You're a traveler, but in in the commercial sense, you are a driver. But so you have to word it appropriately. Right?
[02:36:20] Unknown:
Just become a travel agent. Use your travel agent license.
[02:36:28] Unknown:
That's the thing about that's the thing about prior to Lincoln's bullshit, we could, as individuals, be in or out of commerce at will. Right. And we were protected by Swift versus Tyson. And that's another thing that if you read Brosse to work and you can get that through your head about the public and the private, that we can claim Swift versus Tyson and that we're outside of commerce. But that's a whole another can of worms that's even more difficult to explain.
[02:37:03] Unknown:
And speaking of Tyson, they just closed the largest beef processing plant in America.
[02:37:12] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's probably owned by the Chinese, isn't it?
[02:37:24] Unknown:
I heard it was Tyson.
[02:37:26] Unknown:
Or the hippies bought it.
[02:37:28] Unknown:
I think Tyson was bought by the Chinese. Some of the big ones were were for sure. What was the big one out of Chicago that said we we process everything but the squeal? Who was that? Back in the Upton Sinclair days.
[02:38:02] Unknown:
That's the pork processors. That's Obama allowed that, Chinese sale to go through. I can't remember who the hell it is. It's the,
[02:38:16] Unknown:
I'm blanking out on it too.
[02:38:18] Unknown:
Yep. I just talked was talking about it last night. I can't remember the darn name of the pork company, but, yeah, they Frostdale Armor? Smithfield. What? It's Smithfield. What? Smithfield. Yeah. That's it.
[02:38:44] Unknown:
I think the the most important thing is that you make these claims, and then you tell them to refute them or be in agreement with them. Give them a period of time, and at least gives you, you know, some some weapons to refute what they wanna do to you when they think you're in the wrong and you've already told them, and they've agreed with you.
[02:39:20] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. You still got your ears on?
[02:39:40] Unknown:
The poor boy's got no ears.
[02:39:51] Unknown:
I'm wondering why we even need their agreement. Just says confirmation to show
[02:40:06] Unknown:
Well, be because otherwise, they presume that you're a fourteenth amendment citizen.
[02:40:12] Unknown:
Yes. A feudal system. Leads man to the leads lord.
[02:40:26] Unknown:
We're the black sheep.
[02:40:29] Unknown:
No. You don't understand the game. They're one of those. They want us to be one of them too.
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Point one. I think I understand their game pretty well.
[02:40:41] Unknown:
How dare you, crab. Crawl out of the pot. We're not gonna let you.
[02:40:54] Unknown:
You know, they think they got the upper hand because they got badge.
[02:40:59] Unknown:
And a gun.
[02:41:01] Unknown:
They have a lot of force, but they don't have any power.
[02:41:07] Unknown:
Well, now forced to go backwards too. You know?
[02:41:11] Unknown:
Live by the sword, die by it. Power is the truth. Power is the word of God. And that I'd rather They have none of that.
[02:41:29] Unknown:
I'd rather fill fill them full bullet of truths truth bullets.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
Some lady had a question for me. Who is she?
[02:42:07] Unknown:
Her name is Rachel. I'm not really familiar with her, but she was wanting to know what your affidavit consisted of. That's what she was seeking. And I got on the call late, so I'm not sure if she read it on the air or not.
[02:42:26] Unknown:
Yeah. If it's Rachel, Shane, she you you were gonna discuss things with her after the show. Right?
[02:42:33] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I'm here.
[02:42:35] Unknown:
Well, then Did you read your gonna discuss it with you after the show.
[02:42:40] Unknown:
Right. But did you Yeah. Did you read your affidavit on the recorded call?
[02:42:48] Unknown:
Did I read my affidavit? No.
[02:42:51] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's the information she was seeking.
[02:42:54] Unknown:
What you Alright. I've written several affidavits and not necessarily for my political status. I wrote an affidavit for my, cryptocurrencies to president Donald Trump, and, I'm just waiting for it.
[02:43:17] Unknown:
Well, I'm not sure what that she was speaking of that she was wanting the information contained therein.
[02:43:25] Unknown:
Alright. Alright.
[02:43:38] Unknown:
Oh, you're the cat.
[02:43:43] Unknown:
Is she still here?
[02:43:48] Unknown:
I have no clue. I'm in by I can't see the list of participants. I yield.
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. After you said that, Shane, Paul also pointed out how you can get into a different room for a private conversation. But she's gone, I think, because she hasn't piped up.
[02:44:10] Unknown:
Or she's in Room 1 waiting for you. I don't know. Star 31.
[02:44:16] Unknown:
Well, it's not to me like they were gonna share information and call each other. Okay. There she is. I'm I'm still here.
[02:44:26] Unknown:
Sorry. I'm I'm very busy. I have a homestead here, and I'm still processing stuff that I, you know, took out of my garden. And, it's, you know, it's good. It's a good life. It's just that I, you know, I have to do I have to talk to you guys both in between my between my other tours. So
[02:44:56] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:44:59] Unknown:
Somewhat. Okay. You're you're not able to hear me very well?
[02:45:05] Unknown:
I hear you fine.
[02:45:07] Unknown:
Okay. Good. And this is Shane?
[02:45:10] Unknown:
My name is Shane. And your name is? I'm Rachel. Hi.
[02:45:17] Unknown:
I'm up here in Northern Arizona in Northern Land, LVS Land. Not I'm not LDS myself, but a lot of my good friends are.
[02:45:33] Unknown:
I'm in, communist California.
[02:45:36] Unknown:
Oh, oh, California. Some place I don't care to go to anymore. Yeah. Ever since the pandemic. Did you want to contact me privately or do you wanna continue talking on the group? Because I don't care either way. Because if somebody can learn something from whatever we're gonna talk about, that's fine.
[02:46:06] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Let's leave the system open. I'm, free. Oh, I'm, consent.
[02:46:18] Unknown:
Okay. So what repeat again what you were talking about on the show.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:46:30] Unknown:
Are you a national?
[02:46:32] Unknown:
I am a American national. Yes.
[02:46:35] Unknown:
Okay. American national. And you did all of that paperwork that they're talking about?
[02:46:42] Unknown:
Necessary. Yes.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
K. What was your process? Like, you did the affidavit. You applied for the card, the the, passport. Right? You have the card? Yes.
[02:46:58] Unknown:
I have a book.
[02:47:00] Unknown:
I have a book too. I just I need to find the darn thing. I'm really upset that I can't find it. It'll show up. I know what happened to it, and, it's not good. I I think my I tried to help my son. Quick story. And, I think he took it. I think he took it. He took some other very valuable things as well. No good deed goes unpunished.
[02:47:31] Unknown:
Right?
[02:47:33] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:47:35] Unknown:
Okay. So you have a book, but you don't have the card. Aren't you needing to get the card? How long have you been in American National?
[02:47:47] Unknown:
Probably about eight and a half years. I have to renew it. My birthday next year.
[02:47:55] Unknown:
And you have a pass are you saying you have to renew the passcode?
[02:48:00] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. And, also, I have a ID, California ID, which has my affidavit.
[02:48:11] Unknown:
Okay. Then how did you go about doing that?
[02:48:17] Unknown:
I simply went to I caught the I drove to the DMV. I got in line. I went to the, doing all that necessary stuff of of, stand. I did all the necessary stuff, and I simply placed my, affidavit into my application.
[02:48:49] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:48:50] Unknown:
I attached my affidavit. Trouble or anything? No trouble at all.
[02:48:59] Unknown:
Well, I'm hoping because Arizona and they're all thinking about Arizona. This isn't a lot, I suppose, because a lot of states have their areas that are very conservative, so to conservative, so to speak. And, Arizona the Northern part of Arizona is very conservative, while Tucson and Phoenix are very liberal. Mhmm. I myself do not participate in the two party system. But, you know, a lot of people here do, up here. You know? Yeah. We're trying you know, we've tried with our group to educate people, but to care more. And I think a lot of the people in the group got fired from dealing with it. So okay. So now you got your card. I mean, you got, yeah, you got your state ID, then you got your passbook.
Right?
[02:50:06] Unknown:
And Yeah. C n CLD. I don't have a CID ID. I simply have a a ID. Cal California ID. Yes. Sorry.
[02:50:17] Unknown:
Yes. CID. That's what it's called, the CID?
[02:50:21] Unknown:
No. I I don't know.
[02:50:25] Unknown:
Company ID. Yes. It is. Who's talking about doing? Because he talked about informing different, state officials in the information on the website. So did you do some of that? And is that what you were speaking of?
[02:50:47] Unknown:
Yes. I was speaking strictly for my ID and my passport.
[02:50:54] Unknown:
Okay. Who did you who else did you notify for that?
[02:51:02] Unknown:
The I the voting. I simply put my when I turn in my voting register where it is, I attached to my, affidavit to it, and I handed it in with to the lady. And she simply, ran it to some kind of printer and gave it back to me and said thank you. I simply, go about my life knowing that I am a US national. I'm not a United States citizen. And, also, I I tested this, within the, my, I'm no longer, voting as a United States citizen. I vote as a, what do you call that?
[02:52:03] Unknown:
Elector.
[02:52:04] Unknown:
Elect yeah. Elector. Thank you.
[02:52:12] Unknown:
Okay. So you wrote as an electrics. So now what were you talking about specifically on the show just this previous event?
[02:52:26] Unknown:
Yesterday?
[02:52:28] Unknown:
No. No. Today, you were speaking of something. But I thought it was because I was, of course, doing something else. And I just caught the tail end of your of your conversation, and it sounded like you were talking about the possibility of notifying other people so that you might not have as much of a hassle.
[02:52:52] Unknown:
Okay. Our system is built on, like, different levels of superiority or, feudal system, whatever you wanna call it. Mhmm. I, no noticed my, president of The United States. I noticed to the, I'm I'm not I noticed the passport. I noticed that the California ID, DMV, those are the only ones I, put on notice.
[02:53:33] Unknown:
Oh, You gave them a document. You issued them a document of notice.
[02:53:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I simply copied, I gave them the same copy in which I gave the, the, US passport. I simply changed the cover letter or letterhead to each, who I was applying to.
[02:54:02] Unknown:
Now you're speaking of your affidavit. Right? Yes. And a copy of your passbook. Yes. Okay. Very interesting. Very interesting.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
Alright. As it says as it says right here can you get over there?
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm sure. Mhmm.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
And it says right here on the, application for US passport, it says on the bottom, it says, warning, false statements not knowingly or willingly in passport application, including affidavits or other documents subject to support this application are partial by by fine and or imprisonment under US law, including the provisions of 18 USC 1,001. I'm, 18 it goes on and on.
[02:55:20] Unknown:
Wait. Where is that? Is that on your card?
[02:55:24] Unknown:
Yes. It is. It's a d s eleven two thousand, 2013.
[02:55:33] Unknown:
Okay. So what, so you took a copy of that?
[02:55:42] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:55:45] Unknown:
And you sent it with the affidavit.
[02:55:50] Unknown:
To the secretary of state. Yes.
[02:55:53] Unknown:
To the secretary of state. Now was that when you were applying for your American National when you were electing when you were doing your election?
[02:56:12] Unknown:
This is from the application for US passport.
[02:56:22] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:56:24] Unknown:
And then underneath that is downhill. It's
[02:56:29] Unknown:
See, the the thing is that I already have that's what I was telling Roger. I already have a passport on record, but I don't have, you know, I don't have the physical passport. This is really common. Anyway, I'm gonna have to, I guess, reapply for that before I can get the card. I'm gonna go on their website, and I'm gonna try to ascertain what I need to do to do that.
[02:56:58] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:56:59] Unknown:
But I have to do the affidavit first. Right?
[02:57:04] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:57:07] Unknown:
Well, I'll start there. And once once again, when you fill out the, when you get the affidavit, I guess, what they call that they call it, what do you call it when they stamp it and they say you you're Mhmm. That's a notarized notarized No. Yeah. Notarized. Thank you. Yeah. When you get it notarized, then you send it to the head honcho, secretary of state. Once you receive your passport back from him, then you use that same affidavit, and you give it to the DMV. You give it to the state the IRS. You give it to the state state, assembly.
Oh, wow. Oh, I can show.
[02:58:01] Unknown:
And when you did that, did anybody contact you back or anything like that?
[02:58:11] Unknown:
When I contracted with with that, I received nothing back.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
Nothing.
[02:58:18] Unknown:
Wow. Nothing. I I received nothing back from them. That means silence deems consent.
[02:58:26] Unknown:
Okay. That's interesting. Okay. So so do you have a driver's license? No. No. And have you ever been called over?
[02:58:42] Unknown:
No.
[02:58:43] Unknown:
No. That's good. I have, unfortunately. Yeah. Feeding up here. It's a big thing because these guys get a lot of revenue. Like Roger was saying, you know, well, god forbid they should lose their their, you know, their revenue from tickets from harassing their local citizens on road, you know, backwards where, you know, I was going 80 miles an hour on a road that you won't see anybody. It's ridiculous. And I did try to actually fight that, and it didn't work for Sydney. So but I'm looking forward to having this designation so that I don't have to pass it. But I am watching my students, and I'm getting better about that.
Okay. Well, hey. Thank you for, for, being available to answer my questions. I really appreciate that.
[02:59:56] Unknown:
If I could be of any help, yes.
[02:59:59] Unknown:
What's your what's your name again?
[03:00:04] Unknown:
Shane. Shane.
[03:00:06] Unknown:
Okay. Shane. As I said, Jamie was saying. Shane. Okay.
[03:00:12] Unknown:
I Or watch the movie.
[03:00:14] Unknown:
Because I wasn't hearing it properly. At times, I heard Lane and then and I'm like, okay. Which one was okay. That's good. Yeah. I am assuming that our phone numbers are on there. I like being, you know, being able to access this group. You know? Are you on here often?
[03:00:39] Unknown:
Yes. I've been here since, every day since
[03:00:45] Unknown:
Very cool. 2016. Oh, wow. Wow. You've been with this group for that long. That's great. Wow. Well, I'm I'm happy to be a part of it, and now I need to get more of my toys done. So but, what a pleasure being part of your group. Thank you, guys.
[03:01:05] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome.
[03:01:07] Unknown:
Alright, Shane. You have a very blessed day.
[03:01:11] Unknown:
Thanks. You do the same.
[03:01:13] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you. Take care. God bless.
[03:01:16] Unknown:
Bye. For the lady that's talking?
[03:01:20] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here.
[03:01:21] Unknown:
Just just FYI, all the shows are recorded. Hold on. Missed something during you missed it during the show, but you can surely go back and listen to the recordings.
[03:01:34] Unknown:
Listen to what recording?
[03:01:37] Unknown:
The show recordings.
[03:01:40] Unknown:
So if you miss a show or Hold on. How do you go about
[03:01:46] Unknown:
Yeah. So if you miss a show or you, want to relist to something because you didn't quite capture it or you need to make some more additional notes Mhmm. They're all available on Roger's website. Just a matter of going there, and then it's the you click on the EuroFolk Network
[03:02:07] Unknown:
link. That's what that is.
[03:02:09] Unknown:
Okay. The first page. It's right. Everything's right there. We gotta look for it, but it's network.
[03:02:17] Unknown:
What she needs to do is go to the matrixdocs.com.com.
[03:02:24] Unknown:
I I'm already on it.
[03:02:27] Unknown:
It's Listen. Pod home.
[03:02:31] Unknown:
PodHome?
[03:02:33] Unknown:
Well, there's a link there. I've never clicked on it, so I'm not familiar. But Okay. The archives are at the PodHome.
[03:02:44] Unknown:
Oh, Pod Home. So if you're on Ma'am? Globalvoiceradionetwork.net, which is radio which is the the matrixdocs.com, the state code. Matrixdocs,
[03:02:55] Unknown:
there's a link that says archives. If you go to that, you'll get to the archives. It's not on Eurofolks.
[03:03:01] Unknown:
Oh. Thank you, Lee.
[03:03:03] Unknown:
So I have probably there is a link that says Global Voice Radio Network. That's where I go. And then for merits, it's got all the podcast listed.
[03:03:16] Unknown:
But that's how I find it. I don't know of another way. Yeah. That's true. That will get you there also. The Global Voice, that that'll that'll take you to the archives also. But I'm pretty sure there's a link on there that says archives.
[03:03:28] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'll work around in there for sure.
[03:03:33] Unknown:
I'll find I have a question.
[03:03:35] Unknown:
I have a question for you. Sure. Okay. Are you calling in, or are you using the computer?
[03:03:45] Unknown:
I am using my phone right now. Originally, I was on my computer, but, like, right now, I'm talking on my old iPhone. This is not this doesn't have a it's not connected to a network. It's connected to my, my, you know, my router. Yeah. It's it is a cell phone, but it is I'm utilizing my Wi Fi to be able to do this. Yeah. Alright. It's a little more private, I think. You know? So and it doesn't tie up my other phone. So that's fine. It's a good thing. That's a good thing. Well, you fine, folks. I got some work to do. So, hopefully, we'll talk again now. It's not tomorrow. Right? It's Monday. Correct?
Yes. Okay. Very cool. I'll I'll try to listen in on Monday too.
[03:04:48] Unknown:
Alright.
[03:04:50] Unknown:
Alright. You all have a great, what's left of the day.
[03:04:54] Unknown:
Thanks. Thank you. Likewise, I'm sure.
[03:04:58] Unknown:
Thank you. Take care.
[03:05:03] Unknown:
Bye for now.
[03:05:05] Unknown:
Bye now.
[03:05:48] Unknown:
Earth to Paul Beener.
[03:06:02] Unknown:
Yeah. He coulda walked away.
[03:06:07] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:06:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Who's on the after show? Who's here?
[03:07:01] Unknown:
I am.
[03:07:03] Unknown:
Hi.
[03:07:08] Unknown:
Who's the We all are here.
[03:07:12] Unknown:
We all are. We all. All we. Morning.
[03:08:05] Unknown:
Afternoon. I got this ABC Radio on here, and, they just announced in Greece, brown bears and wolves, are are, they've come back. You know? They brought them back due to good conservation and, you know, efforts of whoever, but but the farmers and ranchers and people are in fear of their lives and their livelihoods because they're eating all their livestock and killing people. But that's okay because, yeah, it we're we're saving the planet for the brown bears and the wolves. Isn't that special?
[03:08:53] Unknown:
You said in Greece?
[03:08:55] Unknown:
Well, Dave, they gotta eat too.
[03:09:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Your children. And, yes, Shane, Greece. But check out, you know, Wyoming and, you know, all the the Rocky Mountain States. They've reintroduced this, Canadian Timberwolf. It weighs like 200 pounds, and they are vicious and voracious. And they attack, pregnant elk, and they tear the baby out of the out of the womb and eat that first while the mother's laying there watching it. Isn't that special?
[03:09:50] Unknown:
That sounds like a demonic animal in my opinion.
[03:09:57] Unknown:
I know my brother is a werewolf, and he's human or half human.
[03:10:03] Unknown:
Not only demonic, but GMO, genetically modified.
[03:11:44] Unknown:
So where where did you see these, bear, bears, coyotes eating, I guess, livestock.
[03:11:58] Unknown:
I didn't see it. I just heard, you know, stories from ranchers about it. You know, locals in in all those states, they've been releasing these timberwolves for about ten years now. And, Yeah. It's a it's a big problem. You know, the they part of agenda twenty, thirty, or twenty fifty is to rewild America. By 2030, they want 30% of all the land in America that people live on to be, given back rewilded and given to the states or the feds. And by 2050, they want 50%, and they're gonna put everybody in these dumbed down mind controlled lab rat smart cities, fifteen minute cities.
And, yep, if we don't stand up, it's coming. Already on its way. It's here in many places.
[03:13:10] Unknown:
Hey, Andy. The link you put in the chat, I get, this page doesn't exist. Try searching for something else.
[03:13:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I would like to see the wolfs or were werewolves, eating, livestock. You know? What's wrong with the little blood?
[03:13:58] Unknown:
Yeah. The werewolves of London should be eating the royalty. But, unfortunately, once they run out, they'll be looking for more food.
[03:14:17] Unknown:
Well, I have not actually will not get, like, the, elite.
[03:14:34] Unknown:
Yeah. King Charles is a direct descendant of Vlad the Impaler. I mean, it's freaking Count Dracula. He lives in, in, Transylvania.
[03:14:48] Unknown:
What do the castles have? They had moats.
[03:14:56] Unknown:
They also had they also had their stools were, over a hole, that drug that dropped right into the river, and the peasants were all bathing downstream.
[03:15:25] Unknown:
Dung. Human dung.
[03:15:39] Unknown:
Yeah. They call it humanure, and they actually sell organic humanure at Home Depot and and, Lowe's and and the like. And it it on the ingredients, it says, biosolids in the ingredients list. And it all comes from, you know, the these, septic tank cleaners. They they run that stuff out in their fields, and then they recollect it, and and they sell it as organic humanure.
[03:16:17] Unknown:
It might come from, like, public outhouses also, you know, when they go and have people empty those.
[03:16:26] Unknown:
And you know Oh, absolutely. Know what pharmaceuticals those people are taking. That's filtered. Yeah. Right.
[03:16:36] Unknown:
Fluoride.
[03:16:40] Unknown:
Well, I would hazard a guess that most people have that in their system unless they filter their water.
[03:16:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Don't forget plastic. The plastic we have, the blood the plastic we have in our blood.
[03:17:11] Unknown:
Right. But any manure that you use in your garden should only come from, vegetative animals, you know, like cows. But since they the feed contains a ground up pieces of the cow. They have made, you know, what's it called when you eat your own? I can't think of the word right now. But I wouldn't use any mammal.
[03:17:44] Unknown:
That cow's pretty mad.
[03:17:47] Unknown:
Yeah. But what what's it called when you eat your Pyrenees.
[03:17:53] Unknown:
Cannibalism?
[03:17:54] Unknown:
Yeah. When the cows eat their eat their brains
[03:17:58] Unknown:
cannibalized, the cows of the country for the most part.
[03:18:03] Unknown:
Yep. They've cannibalized the people that, Rabbi Finkelstein told that preacher on that New York radio show that they kidnap all the children, you know, the missing children on the milk cartons in America. They kidnap them. They they take them in the basements of their synagogues. They drain their blood. They mix it in their matzah balls, and they, drink Havah and Megillah Right. Or drink Manischewitz and sing the hava nigella.
[03:18:37] Unknown:
They do far worse before, the blood even
[03:18:41] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But then they they own all the meat packing plants, and they they grind up that meat, and they sell it back to all the restaurants and feed all that meat back to the people. I said it right on the radio. Rabbi Finkelstein.
[03:19:02] Unknown:
Very
[03:19:08] Unknown:
sick.
[03:19:21] Unknown:
Well, it's my understanding in Mexico, they are using the bio, manure as well for their avocado trees and their corn and all of that. So unless you put it yourself, you don't know where it's come from and what has been put upon it. I yield.
[03:20:07] Unknown:
All I want is a pathogen of pantry.
[03:20:13] Unknown:
Thanks.
[03:20:15] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:20:19] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:20:20] Unknown:
Did you ever get the the cop arrested?
[03:20:24] Unknown:
No. No. I didn't do that. I got an airplane to do. Something very, very oh, boy.
[03:20:34] Unknown:
And you can't share until after?
[03:20:38] Unknown:
No. I'll do it when I get ready to do it. That's all.
[03:20:41] Unknown:
Okay. No. Fair enough.
[03:20:43] Unknown:
No. No. It's just a simple it's a simple thing. It's gonna stop them in the tracks. It's a simple thing. It's gonna stop them in the tracks. I gotta formulate it first, but, it works on other things too. So it's an estoppel.
[03:21:04] Unknown:
Yeah. What can I can I can name in the cop as a counterclaim defendant?
[03:21:15] Unknown:
Do what now?
[03:21:17] Unknown:
Calling a counterclaim.
[03:21:19] Unknown:
No. No. No.
[03:21:21] Unknown:
No. This is gonna stop
[03:21:26] Unknown:
them. Alright.
[03:21:27] Unknown:
Can't wait to Shut them down. It'll shut them down. It'll shut them down because all every official that's holding the office in the in the state has been notified. And then it's all cured. You know, the affidavit was cured too way before that. No. So, anyway, they're all gonna get a shot. Now I've they wanna and the playboy that that labeled me as a a cell as, cell okay. I can't remember what he said to call me. I can't anyway.
[03:22:12] Unknown:
He called you a sovereign citizen. Right? Is that what you're trying to think of? Yeah. Sovereign citizen.
[03:22:19] Unknown:
That's, that that's gonna be his fault, not mine.
[03:22:23] Unknown:
I tell him I was a national. There's no such thing as a sovereign citizen. You look like a sovereign citizen to me. And see, the guy and I and my, the the girl I'm taking care of, she went in she's she's a national too. She said, I'll help Bruce with the, bill. Just let us know. And he said, okay. We'll do that. And, so, anyway, he's supposed to get an estimate and send us information or send us a bill, and we'll pay for it. But it's nothing but a little scrape on the bumper. You can't even see what my car my car didn't get anything with a little dust on it. He had a brand new truck, and, all I did was the the side bumper went around. Just that little part right there is what I touched.
And then when I started saying I'm a national, they said, do well, what do you mean? I said, well, I I'm on car. I don't have it registered here. I don't have to. I'm a national, and, I'm free. He said, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, well, it's, something that you might wanna know about, and, I can help you understand it. And he said, well, I don't know. And he said, you don't have a license you don't have a license? I said, no. So I don't need a license to to travel around. I'm a traveler. And, so he called the place,
[03:24:01] Unknown:
and they came up. That was the trigger phrase.
[03:24:05] Unknown:
I don't have a license.
[03:24:07] Unknown:
Do what now? That was the trigger phrase for the man that you scratched his bumper. When you said you don't have a license, he said, oh, no.
[03:24:17] Unknown:
No. No. No. I didn't have the right tag on my car.
[03:24:24] Unknown:
No. First, what you just got done saying was that you told him you didn't have a license, and that's when he called the police. I'm telling you, people look at you like, oh, well, you're not going along with what we have to do. And if we're doing it, they want you to do it as well. And if you're not, they'll punish
[03:24:45] Unknown:
you. And that's Okay. I was there. You wasn't. I told them I didn't have I had a South Carolina, tag on my car. I had it for three years up here. I had it, in South Carolina. Four became a national on that tag. This is is is a a tag was supposed to be a a a I, when you first sign up for a tag, you know,
[03:25:07] Unknown:
up here. Anyway, it was paper tag. Did not say that when you told him you didn't have a driver's license is when he called the police.
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No. I had already told him I didn't have a driver's license. Okay. I have a I I have an ID. That's what I heard you say. He accepted it. He he accepted that. I showed him my ID. Okay. I said this is my property, and I I'm gonna take care of your your situation. He he agreed with me. Okay. That's no problem. Now what I said was a national is what king cheated him off.
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Oh, okay. That's what I was getting ready to ask. What was it that was said that prompted his call to 911?
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Yep.
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I mean, he wasn't jumping on me or nothing like that. He was just kinda like, I guess, thinking that I was trying to get away with something. You know? And I was just telling him the truth. Standing there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And so we'd already agree agreed. He he accepted it that we would pay him, you know, out of our pocket. And, he said, okay. You know? And when I I said I was a national, so is she. And we'll take care of our our, you know, debts, and that's what we do.
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It's just a little scraping on his brand new dollars in your pocket, and you handed it to him and said,
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does this make thing right? No. No. No. No. I I wanted it I wanted an estimate from him so I could do what I needed to do to make his car whole again.
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I wasn't gonna offer him that, Bruce, but do you have an idea in your mind what it would cost? I
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No. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. It's it's just a little scraping. So I'm sure it would've covered that scratch,
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but they don't make bumpers like they used to, do they? Exactly. Uh-huh. I remember, I had a '95 Intrepid, and I got broadsided, and the bumper needed to be replaced. Anyway, they wanted to put, just a a fascia bumper and not the original bumper back on. And it was the body shop. It was he was a friend of mine. So he called me and he said, do not let the insurance company get away with this. Yeah. Once that bumper put back. And Right. Yeah, so it was a little more costly. But, anyway, it just you have to make decisions right, and I get that. But I also backed up into somebody one time, and it really didn't do anything, you know, because it was an old Ford station wagon, and I was in a scout.
But I just handed him a $150, and he said, we're we're fine. So Okay.
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No. I didn't offer him any money. I told him we we we would pay for it. Sam, I helped this lady with one one leg, and, she was the only one I was the only one. She wanted me to help him. So as they, got I got employed by the people that do that kind of service here in the homeland home, solution. And, they've given me, let's see, two pay raises because of what I'm doing with her. I go over there in the middle of the night, in the middle of the early morning. I'll check on her three times, before we wake up during the night and morning. Make sure she's still in the bed because she's taking meds that just kinda get her off off line. You know?
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Anyway.
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So Well, my thing is if you can, rectify the situation and make it right right there on the spot about a third party, the better off you are. So and it usually just requires cash.
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That's all. Yeah. I understand that. But he he agreed to what we were gonna do. You know? And I said, I would I I'm a caretaker, a woman, and she's a national too. And let me get on the phone to see if she would help too to own the bill. You know? And he said, well, okay. So I got on the phone. They talked, and I talked to him. I said, see, I'm the primary, so I'll pay for it. You know? But she's gonna help, whatever it costs. So, see, I had backing. And then when I said I'm a national, that's when it went sideways on him.
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Well, I'm just saying pulling cash out of your wallet would have changed his mind. That's just my thinking, and that's my experience. Now I Yeah. And that's been many years ago.
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So Well, see, the thing was, I was trying to be the most honest I possibly could, not bribe him into taking the money and forget about it. It's not a bribe. It's making it right right then and there. That's all. Well, I know it's gonna be $200 worth of damage. You know? That's the problem. Leave him hanging for the bill. You know? That's not right. I mean, it's not. I wouldn't do that to anybody.
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I I bet you it's gonna be a whole lot more than $200. He's probably gonna take it to the dealer where he bought it. It's brand new, and he wants it brand new again. That's gonna cost a pretty penny at the dealer.
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Mhmm. Whatever.
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Right? We currently
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Just saying.
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I'll make I'll make payment somewhere. How about that? Or I'll make the police do the payment because I'm gonna charge them a bunch of money what they did to me.
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AJ Poll.
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Are you still traveling about in that same conveyance that they said they were gonna
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strip from you next time they sell you? Just curious. No. They took the tag off, the South Carolina tag on there. I just let them do what they wanna do, you know, because they're gonna do it anyway. You don't do it out there in the middle of the road.
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Yeah.
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Samuel.
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I wanna give you some shit.
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You wanna what? Give me some shit?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Back in the nineties, I bought a book on humanure. Yeah. And and the subtitle is shit in a nutshell. And it the the guy says that what he he he couldn't find anybody who would print it, so he finally got enough money out of print it himself. And he and the minimum printing, he figured, well, they're all gonna rot in my garage. Right? And the Internet being a very popular book, and it's in its fourth edition now.
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Wow.
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And you know what? Think about it. What difference is it than animal manure? We put that on our crops all the time. Right? Now if you've got people full of pathogens and they're not well nutritioned, like, I figure all the Youngevity and other stuff I take, that stuff's pretty valuable. Right. And if it's processed right and you know the source, it's like anything else. I think it can be usable. I generally use it on things I'm not gonna eat, But if I had to, I think I would trust it. Because the process it goes through, like, first for me, the, the worms turned it into worm castings.
And then after that, you can put it in the sunlight and stuff like that. And, you know, just by putting it on top of the soil, and let it sit there for a while before you work it in. So or you can just like, if you're putting it around trees or shrubbery or whatever, you can, you can just let the rain drive it in. You know?
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But I would agree with you, Samuel, except for using animal manure that are something other than herbivores. And they've even turned the herbivores into cannibals. So
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Well, if you really wanna get your bang for your buck with with any thing like that, you wanna compost it so you're breaking it down more for plants. And it's more being more purified through that process of heat and bacterial
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deposition.
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I wouldn't disagree, but, do you put meat into your compost? No. You don't. So why would you put manure from an animal who eats meat into your compost?
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That doesn't make sense to me. I'm not necessarily putting it in my compost, but I'm saying you can compost it to break it down more. That's all I'm saying.
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Okay. I I'm just saying that you should stick to herbivore animals, manure rather than carnivores.
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Well, yeah. That's be because people are afraid of humanure because for that reason, and the that's what this book is about if anybody's interested. It's it's still out there and it's like $20.
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So So he says that you can compost your own manure, so to speak?
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Well, it's not the whole book is about humanure. Yeah.
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Okay. What's the other book?
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Well, I guess if it's your own and you know what you're eating and know what you're putting through your system, it would be a different matter than just buying it at Home Depot.
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Yeah. Because people are loading themselves up with pharmaceuticals, and who knows how well that breaks down. Right?
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And plastic.
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Well, it doesn't break down, and I'll tell you why. Because they're petroleum based.
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Right. Yep.
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So I I think there's, you know, there's there's reality and there's limitations as with most anything. You know? But the book is about how to do this, and it's it's sort of a survival book itself. You know, when the shit hits the fan.
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Yeah. Literally and figuratively.
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These are these are some options you might have that you haven't considered. Right? Yeah. That's the name of the book. Humanure. The Humanure Handbook. Shit in a Nutshell by Joseph Jenkins.
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Humanure Jenkins?
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The Humanure Handbook.
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I guess we could use that language on the patrol people. They're humanoids.
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Just remember, forever chemicals and the worst one is fluoride, hydrofluorosilicic acid. It is the most caustic acid known to man, and it is deadly.
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Yeah. It doesn't break down either. Very difficult to get out of anything.
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Right. But it would, break down your compost pile pretty quickly.
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I'm gonna start calling all the officials humanoids.
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So, Dave, why did you recommend omega three for my friend's problem?
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Well, because all skin issues come from an omega three deficiency, and and it it's all it's it's almost when you have a gluten tolerance and you're 82 years old, you know, you're the inside of your, small intestine looks like the inside of an old garden hose. So if you can't absorb if you're taking omega threes and you got issues on your skin, that means you're not absorbing, and it's it's a big clunky, nutrient, and it's easy to absorb. So you gotta heal that gut,
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and you need What else do I have? Well, the best way to heal the gut
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is probiotics, prebiotics, postbiotics, and, aloe. The the gel from an aloe plant, it's very healing on the gut.
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And skin.
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And I would also add that dairy products.
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It's the urge What about dairy products?
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Dairy products, your cheese, your your cream, your milk, your butter. If you cut that out, it tends to help with eczema if that is what you all are speaking of. Yeah. Well, dairy dairy products are superfoods,
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and if you get them from organically fed, grass fed cows, you know, it's a whole lot better than that crap you buy at the store. But, yeah, the everybody wants everybody to stop eating dairy, and dairy is a superfood.
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No. What I'm saying is have him take that out of his diet for three to five days and see if it alleviates the issue. And how many people, Dave, I'm just saying, I I can't afford organic. And even if you buy organic, does it is it truly organic? So what I found is that your eczema, your skin problems in that regard tend to go along with how much dairy you take in. So he could keep I suggest everybody keep a food journal and, know what you put in and then monitor the results. And that's really simple. And if it's helpful, great. And that's Yep. Very simple, and it's very important. And it doesn't cost you anything to do that. Right. Just a little time.
Uh-huh. So and I think the dairy, you know, like you buy at the store, the RBGH, might cause even more issue in that regard. So like you said, Dave, if you're not eating organic, but I still think that
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because they call it organic, doesn't make it so. And how would you know unless you're there? Oh, I agree. But we gotta eat, and, you're better off with the organic than not. And check out eatwild.com. Eatwild.com.
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Yep. Joyce Riley.
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Eatwild.com.
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Yeah. They'll give you the organic, farmers and, ranchers or whatever in your area. But in the meantime, lift it up. Lift it up to the almighty. He can cleanse anything. Be thankful and ask him to make it a reward for your body with anything you eat. I yield.
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It's been a long time since I've looked at that book, but I'm pretty sure that they, they discuss in there all the cultures that have used human waste in their crops, especially the Asians.
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Hey. Can y'all hear me?
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I can.
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. I finally figured out how to use this thing.
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Alright.
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I think I'll be calling in next week. I've got, well, I think to be some pretty good news, but I don't wanna, put it down too much because I mean, plowing to it too hard because I need to have Roger's approval on it. But, I really appreciate all the learning y'all have given everybody, including myself. I'm in Savannah, Georgia. This is Jean. And so, I guess I'll be talking to you soon and get back on Monday. Or, no, it'll be Tuesday for sure. Alright. That's it. Star six button. That's what I was needing.
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You don't wanna give us a preview, Yes. Welcome.
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Alright. Let me ask you all a question. Do you know how to run the country with no debt? The country would be totally out of debt.
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Do we know how to what?
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Do you do you know how to run the country? To and the the country would be totally out of debt.
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Yeah. Print your own currency.
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No use reattached. Don't borrow your own money.
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Alright. I agree with the first answer. And not only would be out of debt, but we would also have no taxation. The the part about no usury, that would be something that is would have to be monitored or evaluated what is currency in today's economic reality. But if you don't have interest attached to money, you don't have any time value of money, and then you wouldn't be able to loan money because you need to keep all the money you have. Right?
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So
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I think you need a little more definition.
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Currency is manmade. Notes are, God God given, like, gold, silver, and copper and all that good stuff. That that's God's money. And, what you're using as currency, shoots the, the ball right right out of the park. So I'm not I don't know, Jane, if I agree with that totally. Current c
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is water, electricity. It's energy. Current c is energy.
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Well, one of the problems I have with I bought I bought a hook, line, and sinker when I first studied it studied this stuff long time ago. You know, gold and silver is great, but it's finite. So, therefore, there's limited amount. So when when people borrow money in society, if all there was was gold and silver, you wouldn't be able to pay it back. You wouldn't have anything to pay back the interest. So you need something that's flexible, and that's where your promissory notes come in. So that gives you time to pay it back.
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So we would See, if you cut out the usury, then no one can build a business for loaning money. We're not supposed to, go to a business for that. I was raised that
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Usury isn't interest. It's excessive interest.
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Say it again, please.
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Usury is not interest. It's excessive interest. You know, like loan sharks and stuff like that. Look at the credit cards. They're allowed to charge, like, 50% interest now. I mean, if that ain't you, I don't know what is.
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Okay. So I was raised my mom and dad saved money for what they wanted to buy. They didn't go alone except for their home. That was the only thing that they paid interest on. And back in the early sixties, the interest rate was so minimal. No. And now we have Pay cash for the car? We They pay cash for everything else.
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But now we have excessive taxation. We've got welfare, our money given away to people that don't work. We've got so many violations of this economic these good economic principles. So what we need to do is establish public banks. And there's a thing called the public banking institute by, you know, Ellen Brown. She's part of it. The Bank of North Dakota, but they're not really totally public banks yet because they're still using Federal Reserve notes. But if we could establish local public banks, and phase them into the, society society, then the interest on the mortgages would pay for the government.
So the government, they would need to spend money to pay for their operating expenses, but when they spend money, that's inflationary. Now when they loan money, it takes that instead of taxing it out of circulation, we would just the government would loan the money to the people, and then the interest would would be deflationary. So it balanced out. And then the government's budget should eventually once it gets totally phased in, their budget should, equal the interest on the mortgages or the loans that the government makes to the people. What do y'all think about that?
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Thank you. To Ellen Brown talk about those things. It's benefit. It's benefit, but, and it's interesting. And are you also familiar with the, Bank of North Dakota?
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Yeah. You mentioned That's what I was saying. They they they're still using federal reserve notes. But you see, here's the problem. See okay. You look at the fourteenth amendment, and it says, you can't question the national debt. So that's a nail in our coffin. So who can support that when they support the US constitution? That that's ridiculous. But don't forget now. Go go go look at, I'll tell you what. Go to The US debt clock, at usdebtclock.org, and it shows you how how the national debt goes up every second. But then in the upper right hand corner, if you click that little secret door right there, it gives you a, a timeline.
There's a basic timeline is what of what has happened economically throughout The United States. And, and also not quotes Ben Franklin. I I really don't trust Ben Franklin because, you know, he's one of them, hellfire boys. You know? But, where's my notes? Where's my notes here? Not a showman. That's right. In 1793, this is what they say he said. Who knows what he said? He said, the the colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea, and that's another thing. What kind of revolution is that throwing tea into the harbor? That was just a masonic skit to throw us off to put a benchmark in history that they could point to to throw us off the track. That's not really what the revolution was about. This is what it was.
The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George the third and the international bankers was the prime reason for the revolutionary war.
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And on April 19 eighteenth or seventeen seventy five, they they came to take the guns and the powder. And that's when the war started.
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Yep. And then guess what? We lost it. We lost the war again when they met behind closed doors. We don't know who was really there. We don't know who was really saying what or writing down what because they burnt the archives to the constitutional convention and came out with that US constitution. And right in there in article one section 10, where they got us patriots thinking that gold and silver coin is is good currency, it's only partially good currency because you need the notes. And here's what really killed us. No state shall coin money, emit bills of credit, make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender in payment of debt.
So right there, we lost the war all over again right there. Am I making sense? They took our power away. They gave it to the central government. And are they obeying that right there? Yeah. I'll
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I, I agree with that. Yep. That when you take the power from the people, the right to do business with whom they choose, and they, the government starts regulating it. Did anyone hear Edwin Viera on Jeff Rent this past week? He is from Virginia, and he said this may be his last stand and it has to do with the shifting of government in Virginia and Virginia's constitution superseded even the declaration of independence. So, anyway, I find it quite interesting, but the people need to stand up and we don't no. No. No. We just need to stand up and say no. I do not consent.
So and Yeah. And do not count on your neighbors just to stand with you. That's probably not gonna happen. But the almighty, if he be for you, who could be against against you? So stand with him in truth and honor. And that's what we have now. That's my thinking, anyway.
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Mhmm. Well, I I had called, Paul before I went to work one day and told him what I was talking about and gave him a couple of websites. And I think he referred that to Roger. And that same day, he was asking basically for me to call in. I don't know if you remember that day, but I was I was going to work. I didn't know they thought I was gonna call in that day.
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But, Your name, please? I missed it.
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This is this is Jean Carl Savanna.
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Well, I'm not familiar with that day or, you know, Roger expecting you to call in. So, but you're here now, and that's what's important. So thank you.
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Yeah. So, be thinking about it. Any questions or any problems with the idea? I think it's a good model. I think it's what they don't want us to do, and I think that's one reason why we need to do it. But it's scary because, you know, it's like a pipe dream.
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What your model is for us to participate in?
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If the government was the bank, would they need any taxes? No. Eric, I really don't wanna bring up Eric. Who are you? Because he was like, another Roger Sales, but I think he's passed away by now. I've no I know people have called in and mentioned his name. I know people have talked to, you know, about a lot of things, but we haven't concealed on an economic model that would plight these guys. And but, see, Eric, who are you? Came up with it. Eric Williams, also known as Eric. Who are you? He came up with this and he also wrote a proposed twenty eighth amendment to the US Constitution, which allowed basically public banking at all levels of government and each each, county, city, state, federal, we get a piece of the action of the interest.
So that's one possibility you would have to pass an amendment to the US Constitution, I guess. The other solution, I think, is that we cut the feds out of it entirely because I'm tired of them telling us that we got to do what they want us to do. And if we don't, then we don't get that. What do they call it, that revenue sharing that they send back to the states that they already took from us.
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You know, their bribes. But they've already That's that carrot. Their power to administrative. That's why we have all these, agencies governing us. Why and every court administrative is a bank in and of itself. So just off the top of my head, I'm not so sure that I would want to consolidate that with the beds. That's that's my thinking. We need to go back to local
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and
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Yeah. Buying and selling local with our neighbors.
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And
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The Ithaca dollar still exists.
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That's right. That's what yeah. Say again.
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They said the Ithaca the Ithaca dollar still exists. And I don't believe it does. It does not. I I looked at that not that long ago. We were talking about on the show, and and and they don't use it anymore. I think it's been about ten years at least. Really?
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I thought they still used it.
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Well, let's talk about it. What backed the Ithaca dollar? It was basically
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Labor.
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Yeah. People.
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The the trust of the people. Hartford Van Dijk wrote a book called creating currencies for local communities.
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Basically, the the dollar. We ought to get that.
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Yep.
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And whatever the people decide to accept as remuneration using the legal word,
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I don't wanna use gold and silver because I can't replace it.
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Oh. Well, I don't mind using
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a silver, pre nineteen sixty three minute coins because it is, recognizable to others, and it is tradable. And so I don't have any problem with that. And
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How about tally sticks?
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That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter what you use. It just be has to be accepted by Right. Whom you're trading with or bartering with.
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That's all. I have.
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And it takes out any third party. And third parties are the problem with everything.
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I have a suggestion.
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Sure.
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In, and something you might also look at as part of this, but, in my quest to find out what the canon of the Old Testament is or should be, you come across this book called Jubilees, which talks about this economic system that God said they should be using and the Sabbath and the Jubilees, etcetera, is being part of that. And I think that could be incorporated into and it is one of the reasons I think the Pharisees got rid of the book is because they were money hug lovers and were getting rich, and that book would have gotten in their way.
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I think this is gonna be a a hot topic to reinforce what Roger's been doing. I don't want it to interfere what he's been doing, but it might give it some new life. But we we we need to market every day, hand out flyers every day, and, keep it moving. And, also, think of, you know, how can we create an economic model and work together and, maybe create more than one economic model
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with different ideas and see what we can do about it. Be be because of my interest in Jubilees, I I bought this book, called Ecosystems of Jubilees, and it's about economic ethics for the neighborhood. It's written by Adam Gustein and, Jose mum Humphreys. I don't know if these two guys are communist yet, but,
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That's one thing that, Bank of North Dakota was having problems with when they tried to get started. A lot of people were calling them communist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Knowing you're giving your liver some relief. But, you know, bad money drives out good money or bad currency drives out good currency. So that's why people hoard the gold and the silver. So this would allow us to trade amongst ourselves with gold and silver when we saw fit because we would have more money. We'd have more currency. We would have less taxes, no taxes. Eventually, once the day is fully implemented, and if we created a budget, they said they couldn't spend more than what they took in an interest.
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This is five senior But we get back in
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back in the eighteen twenties, the whole reason they, when we had congressman who really cared, they passed a land patent, law, and that was to keep the wealthy from buying all the good land up. They wanted to make sure that that could be held free and clear of debt and taxes in order to make sure that the community was built up with with people who are producing on their own land, and it worked great.
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So
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so it's sort of it's very much like Jubilees. It really is.
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Right. And just like when the trash out we would loan our friend or a family member money. We didn't charge usury. We didn't charge interest. Why should interest ever come in in that regard? And as long as you keep it local, then usury interest, it should not play a part in that transaction.
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An asthma attack can strike any anytime.
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Be prepared with quick acting primacy Anybody else talk in that regard? I don't know why usury or interest, you know, when the commandment is love your neighbor as your own self, why would you expect interest back from your neighbor? You're helping them out. And if they pay you back, fine. But when you give them the money or currency to begin with, you give it out of love. And so I've never loaned anybody money. I give it to them. If they bring it back, hallelujah. And if they don't, then you know not to do that again. And what shame comes upon them?
So and that's my thought about the interest thing. It should not exist. And it does not exist in our almighty's plan for us. I guess. But but but what I
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think about that is a lot of times the bad people take advantage of the good people. And the interest is kinda like a way of, well, you know, when you're just a loan of money on a friendship basis, that's another story.
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Well, what I'm saying is that you pivot if it comes back right because it doesn't make you know not to do that again. And that's where the thing
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from him. And I think
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they'll the word will get around that he's not a man of his word. So
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Like, TitleMax here in Georgia, they charge in 300% interest a year.
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I know. And they have to put that on their just a little card, you know, when you walk into their window. Well, that used to be what it was back in the nineties anyway. Then, they had to tell you what the history was.
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I couldn't believe it until I saw somebody that hawked their car to title, and then it's like, oh my god. Mhmm.
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No. So that's why usury is wrong. What's that line? Was never supposed to be a business. It was supposed to be amongst friends and family, neighbors. And you just speak to your neighbors and did nothing in return. And if they could return it, hallelujah. That's all I could say about that. Mhmm. In the meantime, you know, it's like giving money to your children. Do you expect them to pay back? You know they're not going to, and why hold that over their head? Here you go. As long as you're doing the right thing with it.
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Mhmm.
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The usury thing is what is the joy? So many relationships, and a business has been built on it.
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That's me. Do we do we have a moderator that can stop that noise?
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Well, it seems I could stop now. I yield.
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Alright.
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I just feel totally totally inadequate to be able to, move this idea forward. So I hope everybody, if they like it, they they they also promote it because I'm not the only one that can do it by myself.
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Here's a comment from AI on Jubilees. It says, contrary to common myths that Jubilees involved outright debt forgiveness, the system function more as a debt repayment mechanism where the value of the land's future crops was used to settle obligations effectively paying off the debt over time. But you got the land back. That was the thing every fifty years. It would be returned, but it wasn't just a debt forgiveness. It it was a challenge for you to be productive, produce, and pay off debt.
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Correct. And there's a jubilee every seven years for the land itself. Yep. And its production.
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These are one of the reasons they were taken into captivity because they weren't keeping these. And, a lot of and that's why I think this is a a Pharisee deal to pull the book from the canon because it was in their face on almost everything, including the money system.
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Yeah. Correct. But I don't think I don't think everything
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that they wanted to do. I yield.
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Alright. I got a question. How would how would you eliminate all taxes if you had that system? Jubilee. I don't understand. How would the government pay for itself?
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Well, essentially, you become the government. The you know, in Jubilees, there is no there is no government. It's it's God based. Right? The theocracy. I had this all right. Well, that's the own there is no Cain. There is there is no like like, when they wanted a king, Samuel told them this is what God says is gonna happen to you. You're gonna be taxed. Your sons are gonna be taken to war, etcetera, etcetera.
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Yeah.
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And his word remains truth, and we're seeing it, and we're living it.
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That's true. Yeah. But I gotta I gotta keep on authority,
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to do anything in that regard.
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My model
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field. My model says no taxation. I gotta have a I gotta have a government that has no taxation, So I gotta fund the government with interest on the mortgages because we need the money. We need the loans so we can build our houses.
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What happened to the time where, you paid for your own wood, you know, at the sawmill, and then your neighbors come over and help to raise the building?
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Yeah. That that's that was still going on in the mid eighteen fifties, housing barn raisings. Uh-huh. The armies do that. The men knights do that. I mean, this is closer again to a biblical system, and if we could incorporate that and eliminate the government as we go I agree, Samuel. Goal in mind government. You know?
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Do do they help you to raise anything?
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No. We're we're hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt according to some people. You're never gonna pay that bet. And a note is a promise to pay. It's not a debt forgiveness.
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I agree.
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And there's your money. There's your currency. Let's put it the right way.
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I agree with Dave when he says it's just energy, and it matters not where the energy comes from. Your neighbor's labor in helping you to raise a
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building? And you don't you A cherry, if I may. Okay. You you gotta start somewhere. You know, if you don't have the money to build a house, what are you gonna do? Live in a hole?
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Oh, no. What I'm saying is that you barter with the local sawmill. First of all, get your wood.
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Well
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in. I mean, that While you're building your house, where are you gonna live?
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What?
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Where do you live while you're building your house? Just outside?
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I don't know. There's such a thing as a tent. My mom and dad Well They're outbuilding. Why they built this one? You gotta buy a tent. Wasn't it wasn't posh. You know? It it took a little effort and extra time to to provide meals, you know, and bathing and all that.
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And most most of the costs in building a house go to the government and interest. Bottom line.
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Thank you. Well, yeah. And because I mean And the biggest proceeds
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and the biggest proceeds to reserve. And the biggest proceeds Well, that is that the government gets is from war. Yes. War. Unsanctioned war.
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I agree. I I don't disagree with that.
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You know what, Eric, you are you said? He said Nope. The Federal Reserve isn't all bad. We gotta take it over.
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Yeah. So It's a Pharisee system. It's no different than what they were doing in the temple. That's what it is. And that's why they had to get rid rid of the book of Jubilees.
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I believe in the type value of money, but we need to have an a reasonable amount of interest that's regulated by the government or the people.
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Interest interest at all.
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Well, then you can't you can't Yeah. That that doesn't mean
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Usury is not interest. It's excessive interest. There has That's what you mean. If somebody lends you money, they gotta get paid for it, you know, not just back what they gave you. They gotta make something on it. I don't know.
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I gave my children money and didn't expect extra That doesn't no. That that you're a mother, not your children. My sister. A banker. Family, and I've done it for my neighbors. Never expected anything extra in return. Well Why is that a problem? Why does everybody expect interest for doing a good deed? That's not a problem. Have to have a return.
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You have to have a return on your money. That's what investors do. Instead of business instead of being neighborly.
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Well, yeah. We're talking about
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we're talking about an economic model for the government, not amongst neighbors.
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Why do we need a government?
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Well, that's another story.
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When the scripture already tells us how to deal with each other, and interest is not even part of the plan.
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I know. I I understand what you're saying, but right now we have a government people build their own homes two hundred years ago.
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Was there interest charged back then? No. Because there was no bank and anyway, I yield. It really kinda irritates me because I don't mind helping others. And if it comes I give what I can without any return at all. If it doesn't come back to me, I'm okay with that. And if it does, hallelujah.
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But I'm not sure why part of the deal
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because that just seems wrong to me.
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The interest is a way of of of analyzing
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opportunity. I yield.
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It's a way of analyzing opportunity. Because anytime you, embark on an enterprise, you have costs, and you have to analyze what are what is the opportunity cost. What do I lose versus what do I gain? Do I make any money, or do I lose money? You can't you're not an empty I mean, you you're not you don't have money to loan to everybody. You can only do that to your friends and family, to people that, you know, are dear to you without interest. When it's when it's out there in the real world and in the government, you've gotta have interest. It's the time value of money. Otherwise, it just puts a is a slave to the lender.
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Never be a borrower. And that needs to be something that, Americans live by. That's your point. You know, they could just pay for it their own self.
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That's your point. Road.
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And the borrowing is the problem. And if you all can't do that, because the borrowing is what builds the business for the lender. And soon, they will be your controller. And not just yours, but everybody's.
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That's how it is now.
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Correct. And what Sherry, do you buy food in a grocery store? Say it again, please. Do you shop in a grocery store?
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I do.
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Do you think there's interest in there? No. You think they just give you food for free? Problem with people making money
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to, provide food. Right. That's interest. But they're providing no. No. It is Yes. It is. Money. If you think purchasing product, what are you purchasing with a loan of money? There's no product there.
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You have to work to make the money that you buy that product with, and the company that's selling you that product is making interest off of what you just bought because they're not selling it to you for the price they paid for it.
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I do not disagree with that. I'm talking about the banking system, which is wholly different
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from, Yeah. Well, guess what? Everybody can't have a neighbor like you or a mom like you that's gonna give them all this money to do everything they need to do with Well, don't think I just give it away for Well, you just said you did.
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No. What I You did? They're no. I just don't foolishly give them things
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that, they're not gonna use it. Now we're talking about being foolish?
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Well, yeah. And foolishness is taking out a loan for 300% interest. You don't call that Of course it is.
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That's usury. That's usury. That's not what he's talking about. 300% interest.
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Saying is you you don't count on the government government in that regard. That's all I'm saying. We can do it amongst ourselves, and that should be sufficient.
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One of the biggest problems that we've we've allowed the government to get so damn big, we we can't just extinguish it overnight, but part of a a a sound plan to me would be it slowly gets strangled to death over time. And like like right now, Dave, you're mentioning, you know, if you go to the store and you buy that food, think about how much taxes on there to everybody who's put that piece of food in that store from the government and restrictions and everything else and quality of it. It's all screwed up because of the government.
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Because of the bankers that control the government.
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Yes. And it's a it's a Pharisee system.
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We need to control the government. We want to be the bank. If I'm gonna play the mosque, let me be the banker.
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That's why Jubilees worked because everything was based on the land. Everything we have in our homes and we drive around in came from the land. And we don't own it in this country anymore. They do.
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And we came from the land. That's what we leave out of it.
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We're so stuck on thinking like they think that you got to go to the Lord and and see the difference on what was done. And then maybe we have a chance to begin to implement systems that would slowly eliminate that government and establish sound policies that are in our neighborhoods.
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Okay. Ezra chapter seven verse 24. Also, we certify you at touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, or ministers of this house of God. It shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom upon them. So I see what I think is that we need a system that eliminates all taxation and gets our government out of debt away from these bankers.
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Yeah. Yeah. Bankers are the are a big problem. There's I mean, they're the root of it.
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No doubt. And the bankers are the government. We gotta get rid of that word government. We don't want government. That's mind control. We supposed to control our own minds, self governing. We're supposed to control the minds of our public servants. We gotta get back to basics.
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Yeah. So go check out theusdebtclock.org and click that button in the upper right hand corner. And, also, if you look on the clock, it'll tell you the savings per adult per year. And the way I look at it, we would be saving about $40,000 per person per year if this was put into, effect immediately. It's just, you know, approximation. Yeah.
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No. I like it. I'm just saying that, look into Jubilees and that the system that they were under and why and how it worked. It I mean, modern economists are are still used Jubilees as a way for there to be more equality in how things are are run-in the economic system. I don't think you we should overlook it. That's all I'm saying.
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Yep. Try to incorporate it into what I'm trying to develop here. Let's see. It's a government see, right now, the bankers of the bank. If the government was the bank, would they need any taxes? No. Banks don't need taxes. Be the bank.
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Why why do you want a third party in that regard?
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We would be the bank. We want local control. We wanna be the bank and audit the bank. We wanna be the bank. If you accept that, the government as,
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formed by the people. But as it stands right now, they're a corporation. No difference. You want McDonald's running your life?
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We're gonna be McDonald's. We're gonna be the bank. Do you think do you think they're gonna, do you think we're not gonna get any resistance with this? We might lose our heads.
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Of course, they're gonna give you resistance to make you think that that's what you want. I'm telling you, you do not want the government in control as a bank in your life.
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Well, tell me how you can run the cover government with no debt and no taxes then.
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Go home. Well, that's one solution. There. Did did you, have any loss when the federal government was shut down?
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Some people did, but I didn't.
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Say it again.
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Some people did, but I didn't.
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Okay. So how much does the government provide for you that you wanna give them all this power?
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No. It's taken away power. Because right now, the bankers of the government it. You're shifting it. That's all. I'm shifting it from the bankers to us.
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Yeah. But you're presuming that the government is us. And it
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is That's part of the plan. I'm not presuming. I'm saying that's part of the action plan. We have a right to audit the bank. We have right to, the officers in the bank because the bank's gonna be us in the government. When I was in high school, I don't know what I got. I got this award. I was a banker for a day, and they sent me to a bank. I met the president of the bank, shook his hand, looked around in his office. He had all these regulations and law books in his office. I asked him, do you read all this stuff? He shook his trunk, his shoulders, and walked out of the office and had me sit in his chair, And he came back an hour later, and it was time for me to go home. That's ridiculous.
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Take a mortal man. What? Put him in control. Watch him become a god.
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What year was that, please, if you don't mind me asking?
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Probably around 1970 or something like that.
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Well, so it was before they closed the gold window. Correct? And
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I can't remember those dates, but that's why I say I feel totally inadequate for this. But somebody's gotta bring it to the forefront. I don't see it really brought there in the discussion yet. I think we've danced around it, but I think we need to bring it out and, see what happens. I'm interested in that Harvard Van Dyke creating currency book that Dave mentioned. Dave, you know how to get that?
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Well, I mentioned it here a while back, and there's a website. It's called 4cornersdoctrine.wordpress.com. And there was a Hartford Van Dyke, link that you clicked on, and all of his books were there. And somebody went there from here and said it was they were the links were there, but they were all empty. And I was on a call with the guy who created that website probably, I don't know, maybe five or six months ago. And, I told him that, and he clicked on it, and then he said it's all still there. So is the number four is is the number four spelled out? Yep. The numeral four Oh. Cornersdoctrine.wordpress.com. Okay. Look up Hartford Van Dyke.
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Okay.
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And it's creating currencies for local communities. He also wrote Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. I've read that. Yeah. And Hartford Van Dyke wrote that, and he signed it. His, pen name was the backwards date of, Pearl Harbor because he was there when it happened. And his father discovered these Japanese men in their homes planning Pearl Harbor while he was in the living room selling their wives' pots and pans.
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David, another way to finance a home, let's say, something like that? Mhmm. You look for private money. Go out Right. Put an ad in the paper. Say, you know, I'm I've got the need, and I I I prefer not to get into thirty year mortgage and, you know, whatever and, look for private money.
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Oh, that'll be interesting. Involved.
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What? Another thing. I'm sorry. Go ahead. There'll be interest involved.
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Well, yeah, you could even state how much you're willing to pay because that's what you're gonna be good for and not what what what does I mean, look what the system did because they're so greedy. How the the debt they put on children now for for loans for education. Right. And they got a monopoly on that baby. Education. Yeah. We're gonna brainwash you. You're gonna be dumber than dirt. And we're gonna do we're gonna charge you to the Hilton.
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Right? Turn you into a lab rat.
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Maybe Not only not only that. If if we establish a public bank, we'll be able to change the way interest is calculated. Because right now, it's like compound interest and all of your interest is paid up in the first five or seven years before you even start paying a lot of your principal. You know? Right. We could change that formula,
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and that'd be a big help right there. Right.
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Because that's absorbing it. That's crazy. So what we're doing is we're we're cutting out usury. We're having interest, reasonable interest, so it'll function, but we're gonna get rid of the usury and rid of the taxation. And the country will be out of debt. A lot of the people will be out of debt. No taxation. To me, that's the rules that we gotta use, the principles that we have to use to establish what we wanna do. So, Eric, who are you?
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Another thing that, is intriguing to me is, I heard a statistic on The Philippines. Supposedly, 86% of the population doesn't have a bank account. So, obviously, they don't have thirty year loans. How are they financing their homes? They're good And they're good at through right now.
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Samuel, right now, there's a million people displaced from a typhoon that hit, Cebu, one of the big islands in, The Philippines, because they their houses are shit.
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Even my buddy.
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Even my my mother guys might know Don from this call, in Northern Michigan. He married a Filipina, and he built them a home, a block home because their home was destroyed by a freaking, you know, typhoon. And, most people, yeah, they may not have bank accounts, but they don't have homes like we have.
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Exactly. They're they're shantytowns.
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Yes. That's right. But I don't wanna live like that. I mean, I I I'm glad I was able to, you know, get a mortgage to buy a home because I couldn't afford to build it myself or, you know, I didn't have the money to do. I didn't have the skills to do, you know, we've had five homes that we bought and and paid for and sold. And and, you know, we knew about the we learned about the usury and, the I forget what you call it. You buy it down. You know, you pay the you make double payments and pay the principal with a whole check, and, you know, you can cut that time in half or more by not, you know what do they call it?
I just had it, and it slipped away again. But, anyway, there's ways to get around those 300% interest rates. You know, when you pay off a house, you know, you don't pay it off in thirty years. You pay it off a lot sooner by, you know, doubling up on payments and stuff. Most people aren't in their house for more than seven. And that that's what they say.
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Correct. And But I've been in two houses for fifteen. They wanna do is a fifty year mortgage.
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Yeah. That's what Trump wants. Unbelievable. It's just a What a big What a freaking pig.
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Oh, do you think that comes from him or the bankers?
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Well, he's he's spewing it. He's the front man telling us. That's right. He's just the front man. He's the front man. He's just as bad, just as culpable. He's got that little knee pillow. Agree with that. We gotta get to the root of the problem. He's got the the little knee pillow when Satan Yahoo comes to visit. He's on his knees in front of him. You know And one of his favorite presidents is Lincoln. Us Jesus. Yeah. Exactly. So what a joke. How many how many white principles did did Lincoln murder 700,000 white Christian Americans. That was the precursor to the Bolshevik revolution.
Then they went and slaughtered two two million white Christian Armenians, then they went and slaughtered 60,000,000 white Christian, Russians. And then they had World War one and World War two, and we got about 80,000,000 white Christians that got slaughtered in that. And then they started killing the brown people after that. They didn't bring in a mirror to kill us. And it was all done on borrowed money. Oh, right. Exactly.
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The bankers.
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Yeah. I don't care who Better believe it's the bankers. Is. The bankers are still doing it. And it then there's still the government.
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Synagogue of Satan.
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That's right. Still killing. You are of your father, Satan. Europeans.
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So they're still killing the Christians. It hadn't changed, Dave. Nothing new under the sun.
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Yeah. In general, we should just be listening to God a lot more and interest, if you wanna pay it, I think is really allowed in the Bible, but you've got to be careful about how this is done, and putting mammon before God is is where it really starts to kill a society. I will. It loses its justice.
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To provide.
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Once it starts losing its justice and fairness, you know, Katie bar the door. Then right now, we're living in an absolutely lawless country.
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Yeah. So I I think this is a step doctrine
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dictates a contract. And if you contract, then you pay your contract. You keep your word. And and, the almighty has no problem with you making a contract, but he will also warn you, be careful what you ask for, especially from a third party, and I yield.
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It's it's really not fair right now with the property taxes the way they are, but I I I met a black lady in Savannah. She had a triplex, and she paid zero property taxes, and she wasn't no whiz like Steve Emerson. Not only that, she got the city of Savannah to work on her house for free and fix it up. Talk about inequitable situations. You know?
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And then I found She did she did she clue you in on her secret? How did she do that?
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I don't know, man.
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But, also, I saw Do you have a pee pillow?
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I saw a mansion.
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Whose benefits do you ask for?
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That's right. I saw a mansion, but it was old and get run down. But I could not locate that property and the property record cards for the life of me. I think it was totally off the books. Now that lady's property was on the books. She had a property record card. You could see I verified it. No property tax on it. But the other mansion was totally wouldn't even know. I couldn't find it in the in the record cards. Yeah. So there's a lot of stuff we don't know about, but, I don't know. The working man does all the work, and the rest of them enjoy the fruits of our labor.
So
[04:41:45] Unknown:
that's where we work. Do not consent anymore. Yeah. We it's incumbent on us to stop the harm being done.
[04:42:02] Unknown:
Yep.
[04:42:05] Unknown:
Our government is in in total contradiction with its own self. It it basically in short, the government says it supports private lending, but it doesn't like competing with it. So instead of supporting it like they should and making it even better for lending, they oppose it through legislation.
[04:42:29] Unknown:
The government wants to be They've blown up in The Caribbean saying that they're bringing drugs in. That's competition to them. I yield.
[04:42:39] Unknown:
And the government wants to be everything except the bank.
[04:42:47] Unknown:
They already are the bank.
[04:42:51] Unknown:
Actually, the bank is the government that. They already are the bank. No. The bank is the government. The bank is the hidden government. What you said? No. You said the no. It's the opposite. The government
[04:43:10] Unknown:
Is that what you're pointing out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I just call them synonymous. They're one in the same.
[04:43:22] Unknown:
When when when Lincoln want to kill people, he had to float all these bonds to to raise the money. So what he did is because at the time, we had a state banking system. So he made it 1010% more expensive, to get your state bank money over the national money where he was pushing his bonds, and he put something like 2,500 agents out to sell this system. I mean, it this guy was the antichrist. He really was. Yeah.
[04:43:59] Unknown:
He was a little doubtful. You know, I I heard what you were saying about it, and I looked I found a website. There's he had the ten forty bonds, but he also had about four or five other bonds too. Oh, yeah.
[04:44:11] Unknown:
Yeah. You bet he did. And and then the the greenbacks created all the inflation because they weren't backed by anything, gold or silver. Right? So they traded, like, 25% inflation on top of it. But it was a small part. It was more like 15 to 20% of the money raised. The rest of it was in all these bond schemes and the elimination of the state banks for a federal system. Mhmm. The first IRS, the first income tax on everybody, not just employees of the federal government, everybody.
[04:44:55] Unknown:
I wanna I wanna get that, where where I think you used AI to get that answer. Right? But we need to we need to find the source. Right?
[04:45:06] Unknown:
Well, the original source that I got it out of and got me interested in looking more is the book of the hundreds.
[04:45:13] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[04:45:14] Unknown:
They talk about his bonds and and and it's in in there, and that book is all footnoted with sources. Printed it I printed it out, but I still haven't had a chance to read it. I started reading it a long time ago. But All you have to do is go to page two, and you look at the money the government made on each war it ran.
[04:45:37] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[04:45:46] Unknown:
Like every war, they they went from under a million before the war of eighteen twelve, and then it started to spike, and it spiked and it spiked everywhere thereafter. And then you've got all these spikes already, then when you hit World War three or two, you still hit a a 3000% spike. Even with all that additional stuff ahead of it, that's how much extra money the federal government made. 3000% more than it had prior to the war. That federal government got so powerful and strove so strong. We we hung ourselves with bigger and bigger federal government.
They had the money to implement all this crap.
[04:46:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm looking at page two.
[04:46:41] Unknown:
I'm looking on page two right now. I see the percentage increase, annual increase of, the annual receipts.
[04:46:50] Unknown:
Yep. Look where they start out up to $18.12. It was under a million dollars.
[04:47:02] Unknown:
Yeah. 869,000.
[04:47:07] Unknown:
Yeah. So in that book, there there's was the first indication that, Lincoln started the bond scheme and created the inflation with the greenback. Of course, there's there's sources. If you look throughout that book, you'll see everything numbered. And at the bottom of the page, there'll be a backup source for their statements.
[04:47:43] Unknown:
It's funny. You know, we we we we study and we learn stuff, and then we think about it. We come back later and look at it again with some more knowledge and go, wow. It's even more facets to it than I thought the first time.
[04:47:59] Unknown:
Well, it's like like Roger never knew that, they raised bonds, and that was 75% of of the money raising was done through bonds. At least 75, maybe more. The greenback was the rest and the income tax. That was a biggie, actually. The income tax is a big chunk too because they nailed everybody, and they did it it was on income from land or everything was I mean, why the why the North supported that war just blows me away.
[04:48:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I remember when I was a kid, I had these, for Christmas, I got these toy soldiers, and that was the blue versus the gray. And we had round cannons that would suit little ball cannonballs, and we had the elongated cans. This was some neat toys now. And I was on the blue side, man. I lived in Pennsylvania back then too. You know? But then, like, once in a while, I would I would trade sides and play the other guys. You know? Little things like that make an impression on you. Don't forget. And if you ever been to Gettysburg, that'll make you cry.
[04:49:23] Unknown:
Yeah.
[04:49:29] Unknown:
Yep. Well, there's a lot to learn, a lot to read, and we all gotta make a living in the meantime. I I gotta work. So I just thought I would introduce it. I was gonna do it today, but I didn't know how to get in. I forgot about star six. I just pressed 941. I thought I'd raise my hand. That'd be good enough.
[04:49:51] Unknown:
Okay. George.
[04:49:53] Unknown:
Jean, you just mentioned, the Gettysburg address or Gettysburg. You guys remember Andy Vashago? He was the guy that was in project Pegasus, in the being teleported as a second or third grader around the country, and he was the kid. There's photographic evidence of him at the Gettysburg address, wearing dark sunglasses, and he's wearing shoes that are like, you know, adult shoes. He was a second grader, and and he was wearing this coat. He was wearing clothes of an old man, and it was, like, what, November 19 or something. It was cold, and he said he was just on, I was flipping through on, alt media the other day.
It's a phone number you call, and there's 15 you can click on 15 different shows. Clyde Lewis, Ground 0. I don't know if you guys know who he is. They were playing some kinda, commercial free, old episode that Clyde had from the '20 like, before 2015, I think. It might have been 2014 or '15. And Andy was running for president in 2016. And, he had him on. It was that show or one of those shows from then. And I thought it was live, and I had just was on an RBN show last Sunday. And we were talking about this guy, Andy Vashago, because for time travel and and all that and, Tesla.
And then all of a sudden, I I heard him on that Clyde Lewis show, and it was like, wow. It brought back a lot of neat memories of him talking about how he got time traveled around the country.
[04:51:54] Unknown:
And that's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales for the Sabadell edition. I thought I'd let it ring a little longer because, well, we're not gonna have a show tomorrow, and they were talking about interesting things. So I figured I'd leave the leave the stream running for a while. It catches here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern at least on eurofoolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, and, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you so much for joining us today. They are still talking in the after show, so go to the matrixdocs.com and join us using free conference call. Ciao.
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[04:52:57] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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