In this Saturday “freebie” edition of the Radio Ranch, I catch up with co-hosts and callers across our many streaming platforms for a wide-ranging, caller-driven conversation. We open with light post‑Halloween banter and quickly dig into the core theme of political status, elections, and jurisdiction—covering national vs. federal citizenship, local vs. federal voting implications, and how to educate officials using affidavits and lawful notices. Listeners share practical experiences with voter registration as “nationals,” navigating licenses while maintaining private status, and using cover letters, citations, and process tips.
We then pivot to IRS interactions for non‑filers and nationals, walking through how to respond to CP notices, the function of Form 15103, the meaning of “suspension” vs. “termination” via revocation of election (IRC §6013(g)), and tactical letter‑writing to rebut “taxpayer” presumptions. Callers trade strategies on 1040‑NR/OI exempt income handling, fee schedules, and documenting status changes. A robust health segment examines vaccine studies, mandates, and informed consent, with resources like “An Inconvenient Study” and commentary on regulatory agencies. We close with community updates on media figures challenging establishment narratives and reminders on tools (affidavits, notices, case cites) to secure and defend your private rights.
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Well, we're gonna take another stab right here on the old Saturday edition, the freebie freebie of the week. And here we go on the November. Hope everybody survived Halloweeny. I don't know what has happened since and because I just got distracted yesterday, so I'm a look for some of you to fill me in newsworthy wise. Roger Sales, who your host at the radio ranch. Good morning, Paul. I
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hope you're Good morning.
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Well, this morning, you survived Halloween y, did you?
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Oh, yeah. I did. I had a Okay. Rather distasteful thing that I had to do, but it it wrapped up shortly after sundown. And I was able to come home, have myself a piece of pizza and a beer, and it was all good.
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Yeah. There's no trick or treaters that came by your crib last night last night? No.
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I haven't had a trick or treater in three years.
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So Man, that's good. Well, here we go. It's a little bit different edition today because it's Saturday, especially because of the day that it is, one one one. Paul, we've got a very abbreviated, coalition of folks that help us today, I think.
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I'll say.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It saves you all kinds of time here on the front end.
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Well, actually actually, no. The the WDRN productions, feeds I mean, he comes into Zoom, he grabs the feed, and he sprays it to five different places. So it really doesn't, you know, tax me at all. I still have all the other platforms that I do, which I believe is four or six of them. We're on, eurofolk radio dot com, which is, brought to us by pastor Eli James. We're on Global Voice Radio Network. It's radio.globalvoiceradio.net. We are on Soapbox TV, the GVRN channel, and we're also on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. We're on Twitch. We're on d live.
We're kinda sorta all over the place. Our, website is thematrixstocks.com, which is where you'll find the link to free conference call so so you can join us live on the show. You can join us via computer, smartphone, tablet, or landline dial up. And if you have a problem with your cellular carrier thinking that you should not be able to camp out on conference lines without out of network charges, just text call me to the free conference call number, which is (609) 663-1976. And what do you know? The thing will call you right back.
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Pretty slick.
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Good thinking. Be slick.
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Mhmm. You know, there's one of those that I just really personally don't like, and that's dLive. And the reason I don't like it is just so damn cluttered that you can't even find something as simple as the volume or I I can't. I can sometimes. I can't most of the time. It just aggravates me, and that's the that's the network and, of course, the platform Brent's on that aggravates me because I can't find the volume. I know it's there. I just can't find it. So, anyway, that's just a commentary. It's been on my mind. You mentioned that I thought about it. Good morning. Paul, hope everything's good for you. So you had a little pizza and a little nice Friday night deal. Hope everybody else's was calm. I don't think that the and I wonder maybe some of y'all can tell me that live in more of that traditional neighborhood.
Do did did the kids still, like, go around in groups all over the neighborhood? I can remember that when I was young in New Mexico, particularly. And, man, it's just like all these groups of kids. I'll bet that doesn't happen like that anymore, does it? Could somebody enlighten me enlighten me?
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I think it's mostly parents just taking their own kids out.
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I'll tell you what, it'd have to be a pretty unaware parent to let your kid go out by themselves in these these days, I would think. Anyway Mhmm. Right. All that candy and all that stuff. And back then, everything was fairly wholesome except I mentioned it the other day. Remember trick or treating for UNICEF? Do you remember that?
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Yeah. We were talking about that earlier in the month, you know, just in the passing discussions that are offline and stuff. Trick or treating for UNICEF. Yep.
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Yeah. And I don't remember what you're supposed to do. Well, March of Dimes is probably better than UNICEF, although I'm sure most of them are all corrupted. I think the only one of those charities that people that research it say that is your money goes or your donation goes to where mostly it should be Salvation Army. And hell, who knows, they may have been corrupted by now. It's a damnedest thing what this, what this monetary system does and how it very subtly corrupts. Because even though people don't understand it and how it works, they just know they have to run harder on the wheel to get to where they used to get easier.
And, and it pits everybody against each other and it pits everything against, like, the bottom line on corporations. So how we gotta do this quarter? That's what what about last quarter? What about last year? Everything's very short term. And, it's just very it's it's corruptive, and it's very corrosive, the, debt monetary system. Oh my goodness. Well, I think just started lawnmower. I don't know if you heard that or not. No. I I think that for the most part,
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I used to be of the mind that for the most part that I think the charities pretty much do what they're supposed to do. They they put the money where it's supposed to be or where you intended it to go when you donated. For the most part, that would have been my attitude. But now I'm thinking that it's just a bunch of nepotistic, organizations where, powers that be take, friends, neighbors, and kin and put them in positions to get fat paychecks and, you know, like, is it that the March of Dimes means that the dime is the only thing that charity gets after after you give them a dollar? No. It might be. I could So I'm a say, if you wanna contribute to something, contribute directly, you know.
If you've got a, like, an animal rescue or a humane society locally or whatever, You know? Don't send your money to, ASPCA. Just send it directly to your own local animal shelter.
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Well You know? Yeah. Now that that's that's a bit more direct than certainly you know it's going to the right place then. What, I keep thinking, you know, boy, they tug on your heartstrings, man. These people that pervade that stuff. And there's there's one that's on, the of course, I've been watching a lot of college football and football in general, I guess. And so I'm seeing commercials and stuff and and PSAs as these are called public service announcements, if that's what they are. But this one is a ship. They've got like a a small old cruise ship, and they've turned it into a hospital, couple of surgical reams. And they go around the world and help people with children with cleft lips.
Mhmm. And and they show all these children, these beautiful young children with the with that cleft lip and saying, oh, so much is for fifteen minutes can change a child's life. And you'd you'd love to believe that that's what's going on, you know? And I hope it is. I'm not saying I know different. I'm just saying that that sort of thing always puts me on edge. Anyway, here we go on Saturday. We're trying to get a bunch of people free. And about five years ago, we were all locked down or a lot of people were, and and, there there are people that still had a job even though they're probably wearing masks. And, we said, you know, there's probably people that are really wondering at this situation and looking for answers, and here we are with them. And, so what we'll do is we'll put on a show on Saturdays for the people that work.
But we've been doing it ever since.
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Do we have anybody with us that normally works during the during the week? Hey, Roger.
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Well, there might be somebody right there. Yes. Good morning.
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Good morning. It's Daniel in Alaska.
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Look at that, Daniel in Alaska. Hey, buddy. How are we doing up there?
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Pretty good.
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K. Have you, had a chance to get those correspondents off we talked about the last time we spoke?
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Yeah. We've got all our affidavits drafted up. We're we're just about ready to send them out. I'm, wanted to ask about the cover letter. I know I think I've heard you say the cover letter, you know, it's good to, like, personalize it just a little bit so they know that this is you as a real person, not just something that you copied somewhere. And, yeah, I just wanted to, like, go over your, what, like, what are the points that I should really hit in the cover letter?
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Alright. Well, I'd say something like, and I keep try and keep it very brief. The meteor correspondence, you're not trying the case in the letter. You're you got them given them the case right there with the attachments and believe me, they know what they are. So you're just saying, so please, you know, please, find the enclosed affidavits of citizenship evidence. Please, change, let's see how you could say that. Please alter or or change my status in inappropriate areas. We used to say put it in my administrative folder, but they don't I guess that's old time terminology before computers as much. Please adjust your records accordingly. Something like that, and, you let them go.
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They know what it is.
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And, you've got on the top of the the cover letter there, legal lawful notice, I would put there. And, then when you copy the IRS, you wanna also and you wouldn't necessarily do it on that letter, although you could, but we do it I get we've always done it separately. After you send it to them, then you go back and put the IRS on notice, and you'll put at the top of the cover letter, legal lawful notice. And then there's a phrase that we developed because of some of their actions that says not to be considered or construed, not to be considered a filing quota and put filing in quotes because they used to come back and try and threaten you with a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty, but you're not filing anything. You're putting them on legal notice.
And when you do your, IRS one, another kind of a new wrinkle, you may want to also cc at the bottom the Alaskan, taxing authorities.
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Okay. Like, well, we don't have a state income tax here.
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Oh, that's right. Because of the, excess from the North Slope.
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Right.
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Okay.
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Well, don't do that then for the normal person that has a taxing authority in their state that is recommended. It just saves you another mailing. Then you're gonna have to go back later and deal with the state and copy them. They just do it at one time. I think it's probably better. So what else, Daniel? All this stuff is really pretty simple. You're not trying to do as Brent would say, don't try the case in the letter.
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Right. Right. So when I'm sending notice to state or local people like, state attorney general, should I is there any merit to, you know, quoting, a a cases
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or or, you know, trying to say I'm a state citizen and I, you know, I owe allegiance to the state and, you owe me protection or something like that? Well, you could if you wanted to, but remember, you what you're doing is what your power is. I'm saying what I am. You're not trying to prove it to him necessarily if you find some of those things. Right. I'll tell you if you wanted to, the in my original affidavit that John and Glenn wrote up for us that we sent in thirty something years ago, and it's been reprinted in the back of the book. There's about two or three pages of case sites, Slaughterhouse, Wong Kim Ark, all all those in there. If you wanna cherry pick through those and throw something in there, you can't, you know, be wrong.
But you're really boy, if you wanna do it, do it.
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See, there's really I I
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There's there's not a right or wrong here except that you don't do it would be, you know, if you want to, wrong. So, there's nothing you can do in this correspondence that's gonna advantage you too much more, I don't think. And certainly, there's nothing there that's gonna be there to your detriment. I'm sorry. I'm a little distracted. I've got a lawnmower going on outside the window here, and it'll stop in a minute. It's not a big yard, but they're obviously gonna have a little fiesta here, my landlord's side. So
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Yeah. I I can't hear it. So, thanks, Roger. There's, yeah, another thing I wanted to ask about. So, I got to talk to Eli, my local compatriot here, since since last time I came on the show. He was home briefly between his, hunting trips. He's he's back out again for a bit now. But, yeah, you know, I was talking to him about, you know, being a Alaska resident, quote, unquote, and all the licenses and stuff. And, you know, for his, hunting guide business, he has all kinds of licenses and permits from the state, as well as even from the forest service, because he takes people on federal land to hunt. And, he said that, you know, according to his understanding, his right as a private citizen is always reserved by his affidavit, and he can choose to enter these contracts or these licenses with the state.
You know, if it's convenient to him, he can step in and out of the public sphere in that way. And so he continues to do so because, you know, at this point, making his case that he doesn't need any of those would would be very time consuming for him for his business. And so he just chooses to to keep using those knowing that it's it's a sort of a artificial thing that that he's entering into with with the state.
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Well, the thing is is he is engaging in commerce. He's selling his services to people there. So that would apply kinda like a truck driver. You know, when he parts his rig and gets in the car to go home, he's not in commerce. When he's driving the truck, he was. So Right. And and it, you know, so there's a lot of those little duplicity things here, and I think he's right. My only concern was that the and I don't they probably wouldn't even catch it. Honestly, Daniel, it's just the way my mind thinks here at this stage was that you might not get your goodies at the end of the year from the residency pot.
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Eli's stance on that was that he he doesn't apply for that because he considers it kind of insulting how how little money he thinks it is compared to, the amount that the oil companies are getting.
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Okay. But,
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he did say that he feels like it's important not to be registered to vote. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Well, yes. I do. And we've discussed it an awful lot around here previously, especially up to the Trump election, the last one. You see there's a statement that says all politics is local. So you're who you elect for mayor and city council, though, those people make decisions that directly affect you and your family. And so you should be able to participate in who makes those decisions. Don't you think? Yeah. Well, and and what we did, Dave and Kaye I'd be glad when they stop this lawnmower thing. Dave and Kaye, really pressed the limit on this in Alabama a few years ago.
And, they got a hold of the head attorney at the secretary of state that oversees state elections and a correspondence exchange information, etcetera, he put them on the voting roles as nationals. Wow. He held Zerny. And then they went back to their local registrar and filed a new registration card and attached the affidavit to it.
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Well, so they got, like, kind of a custom entry.
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Yeah. And nobody else has really done it. It's it's another one of these areas. It's really pretty important. I mean, I haven't voted since the Gore hanging chad election in Florida. It's been many years for me. But I do if you're there and and and those city council and all those things are very important. What they say, you got children. Three three children. Right, Daniel? Yep. Yep. Okay. Well, then the the there's some bearing there, and I'm gonna let you make that decision. But I don't necessarily, know that I agree with Eli, unless we could differentiate and say both of us would say there's no sense in voting in the presidential federal election.
But the state and the local elections would seem to have significance. Thank you. The lawnmower stopped.
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Right. So so Dave and Kaye went that route because the I'm guessing the, you know, the form for for registering to vote, you know, only has a box for US citizen. No no national.
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Yes. That's correct. But yet if you go over to the state department website and go to that certificate of non citizen nationality there, and it says all US citizens are US nationals. So with that insight, am I a US citizen in that respect? They they they did register them when all the proof was put in front of this guy and he had to face it. In Alabama, he did register them himself, in internationals. Yeah. Well, there's Dave right there, Daniel. So you can hear it straight from the horse's mouth right here. Hey, Dave. Hey, Daniel. Or Dave? How you doing? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
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yep. Sorry. Let me get on here. Yeah. So our the entire process, including the forms and, the communication and all that is on the website, which illustrates what we did. And, my wife and I kinda especially me, I guess, kinda like the gentleman who spoke this morning from California. He you know, we like to, push the button, so to speak, to see how far without getting ourselves in trouble, how far we can go with certain things. And the voting piece was something that, when we went and took ourselves off the voter registration rolls when we became nationals, and I approached the local registrar about that. You know, she was very adamant.
She didn't really even understand. When I mentioned political status, she thought, she was thinking political affiliation, Democrat, Republican, all that. So she had no clue. And so she said, we'll do whatever the, secretary of state tells us to do, and they have a election division up there. So I approached them directly, and I, sent them a copy a new copy, a new registration to test my affidavit and actually reference the affidavit and, some other things, and they actually, put us back on the voter rolls. And I know that they it went through the channels, because I have the email communicate and email trail.
And they signed off, initialed each and every page of everything that I sent them because I FOIA or I I did a a document request, and they had initialed everything. And so I have a copy of that, as well as and I had that in my back pocket this last election just in case. Right? So but, anyway, yeah, they, they put us back on the, voter rolls, and we went from there, and that's where we stand now.
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That's great. Thanks for sharing that. That's that's really cool.
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Yeah. And Well, I was thinking to your other
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I I just say it came up because it's one of those areas. It's kinda fringy. And then in the last election, yeah, it's just important for everybody to try and did you vote in the the presidential vice presidential slot on that, Dave?
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Yes. Yes. I did. Okay. And, you know, they didn't, they in fact, I I have a direct email from the supervisor up there in Montgomery because I was very specific. Hey. Does this mean I can vote in both state, local, and, federal elections? And, the you know, as a national, and I got a affirmative on that. So I've got it in writing. And, yeah. And like I said, I I they initialed all the base, and it was on file in my in my administrative file. And just to note, for the gentleman, you know, on the website, under the remedy section, we've we've got the, you know, the all the processes from the standpoint of the affidavit notices, passport, and you have to go down go to that, section and then go down, and it's in those gray drop down boxes. And you'll find a lot of examples of our verbiage, of what we put on those documents, those forms, those cover letters, all that stuff. So that's something you can browse through and maybe get some ideas of how you wanna approach it.
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Thanks.
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Yeah. I'll check one out.
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Yeah. I will work you on the website. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, go ahead, Dave. You you have him where you I'm sorry, Roger. Sorry. Yeah. No. Go ahead. Just, yeah.
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Yep. It's nationalstatus.com or nationalstatus.info. Those are two different domain domains, but they both go to the same website.
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Cool. Thanks.
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You're welcome. Good luck. And it just seemed it came up. We talked about it. What, you would probably want to do is initially go to your supervisor of elections there. What's the name of your little town? Williamson? Petersburg. Petersburg. Well, you've got a supervisor of elections. Just go in. We'll carry a copy of your affidavit. She won't know what you're talking about. Okay? Just say, I've changed my political status. I'm I'm now a national, and I'd still I'd like to still be registered to vote, but I wanna change my registration. Maybe that's the way to approach it. You could go look at what Dave and Kaye did, but I think that, is where they started with the supervisor of election, if I remember right. And they just blossomed from there.
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Right. Okay.
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So cool. What else, Daniel? Okay. There's Mark. Yeah. You got something for us, Mark?
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I just wanted to share. I I good morning. I've been, looking at all the, information with all the local state officials. And their what their oath says is that they have, they have an oath under the state of the state, which is, like, for me, state of California. Right? So it's the corporation that they're pledging their oath to. And I don't see like, so far, I've seen that Texas is protecting their people, you know, both citizens, of The United States and the private. On in the California, you know, how I got that response from Rob Bonta, He's like, you know, we are unable to, you know, represent or give you a legal advice or analysis.
Right. I understand what he's saying, but it doesn't even say, like, like, the Texas one says that he he's there to protect, you know, all citizens. Right? On on Bonta's, it doesn't say that. But I know that if when you impose you, enforce your claim as a national, they they understand that. They see you as a private individual, and they do. I I think he like, I don't have confirmation, but from the behavior of our notices and, like, how some of them leave me alone, They do, like, acknowledge that you're private, and they back off, from what I'm feeling and seeing.
But the oath says you know, just wanted to point this out. They have an oath to the state of the state, which is Quinta Corporation. That And it says United States on there. On their oath, it says United States. Doesn't even say United States Of America,
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which I think it's understood that they're sitting in a chair and wearing both hats, though. They may not understand it. Some of the judges I agree with that.
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But we need to educate them and tell them, hey. You know, we're in the private. You know, you have no authority over, you know, our private life, but they they do have to show us show the difference to the whoever the people that are imposing things on us, their laws, regulations, while we, rebut their presumptions. Yeah. And they they should respect that. And so far from what I've seen, they back off. But Yeah. Most of them do. Some of them won't.
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Yep. Some of them won't occasionally. Boy, that's an understatement. Or could you have a good Halloween? Yeah. Hold on here, Julie. Let me check on does Lou LaBelle like Halloween?
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We didn't re there was not a lot of, you know, people walking around yesterday. It was it was kinda weird. Maybe they're just trying to stay safe. That. And then one more thing, Roger, on, the state of, and the voting thing. They specifically say it's for United States citizens, and it's not for the private. So everything that they're doing and this is what how I see it in some other one other people do too. And we've been researching it for a while, you know, along, you know, in my group in National Status Freedom, and talking about it. Because we the the voting is for their public.
It's not for the private. Right. And it's a it's us to enforce our claim as a private and rebut their presumptions.
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It's it's one more of the things that they did to set up your pull political theater.
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Right. Right. You're
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a citizen of The United States. It's just political theater to you because it doesn't matter who the hell you elect. And it doesn't really matter what the hell legislation they pass In this situation, the administrative agencies can turn it into anything they want.
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Right. Then so this is quite bitter
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to to to reinforce the illusion to you and to get you to go in and reconfirm once again that you're a serf because you're only a citizen of The United States to participate.
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Right. Right. Right. So that's why it's up to us to enforce it and hold them, you know, their feet to the fire like you always say, and make sure that they, you know, respect and don't trespass on your private individual rights. Yeah. Our lawful legal notices and affidavits. Mhmm. Yeah. The lawful legal notices and affidavits are important to use, and that's our tool right there. Not the voting, the lawful legal notices and the affidavits holding them liable and keep them on check because they are our public servants.
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Should be doing it. Yes, Julie. I know you're right there, dear. How did you have a nice Halloween? Did you get tricked or treated?
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No. I don't ever I keep my gate closed, and I keep all my lights off. I don't celebrate that satanic holiday. You do you have a do you have a little arrow that says go down to
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go down to the Supreme Court justice's house, Mary Cohen and Barrett?
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No. I don't. Fly shoes here. Go out. I want nothing to do with any of that stuff. But, Margera, I wanted to comment about what Mark is saying. I have to agree with her on everything. I'm I'm not voting. We're still using Dominion Voting machines. Everything's still connected to the Internet. It's still electronic. We're working we're we're voting for a corporation. And, keep in mind that Darryl Link did go to court one day and represent himself proper. And, he told the court, you don't have jurisdiction over me. I'm a national. And the judge said, did do you vote? Did you vote? And he said, yes. And the judge turned around and looked at him and said, I have full jurisdiction over you. So just an FYI.
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No. I think there's more there. Okay. Interesting. Hi, Roger. Oh, boy. Here we got two or three. We got Shane coming in. Larry's out there. Let let's deal with Shane. We don't hear from him too often. Morning, Shane.
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Hey. Good morning, Henry. Sorry. Roger. We had a bunch of kids, like, three different, like, blocks of kids, you know, come by the trick or treating, episode. So, yeah, pretty good, turnout. Okay. This is Well, now, Shane you?
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Shane Shane lives out in San Jose. So all of you that's out there in the Bay Area, across the Bay, I guess. Okay, Shane. You doing alright?
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Yeah. Yeah. We're right here right now. Yes.
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Okay. Good to hear from you.
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Pardon me? I would like to say is that, when my boating, I'm very, important. You know? I love voting. I'm part of my, duty. You know? It's part of my, you know, responsibility. And, I no longer vote as a United States citizen. I vote as a United States delegate or, I'm not, a citizen or a resident. I'm a delegate when when I vote.
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Okay. And they gave you any problems about that?
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Absolutely none. They come they welcome me in with open arms. And, yes, I I did have to go out and go down to the voting office. And, yes, I had to do all that particular change of status and change of, how to represent me. And, it it all worked out. It's all voluntary.
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Well, we know that Oh, yeah. For sure. Okay. Well, thank you. Larry, you got something for us?
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Blair? Yeah. Oh, you're supposed to do your deal today, aren't you? Okay. Yeah. We're gonna do that. We're gonna do that in just a minute. Yeah. We'll do it in a little bit. Alright. Yep. We'll do that maybe past the the noon hour. Alright. But, anyway Yeah. Uh-huh. Merca Merca brought up how the, the state representatives in California, they they, file an oath to the state of California. And I just like to point out and I don't know really what to think of this because I know I know a lot of students believe there's there's definitely a difference.
At least we think there's definitely a difference between the state of, and then if you say the state and then you use a small s state to describe it. For example, I live in Florida, so my allegiance is to Florida state, which is the land, of course, the land, the borders, the meets and bounds that make up the this particular country called Florida state. But I like to point out that the only problem with what Mirka was saying, is both constitutions in California are titled the same. There's a little bit of a difference in the second constitution, which is the current constitution, but the first constitution of California was ratified in 1849 before statehood, and the second the second current constitution was adopted in 1879.
The 1849 constitution is titled like this, constitution of the state of California 1849 is in parenthesis, and all of those words are in all caps. The 1879 constitution says this, constitution that's and that word is in all caps of the, those two words are upper and lowercase, and then state of California, those three words are all caps. And so when when she says that the representatives in California have to take, you know, an oath to the state of California, and she's calling that the corporation. Well, they're doing that because that is the way that both constitutions have titled that particular state. They call it the state of California.
So it automatically follows that they're going to take an oath to the state of California. So, just throwing that out there. I don't know what to make of it. I'm still kinda researching this whole thing between the state of and the smallest state, but I just thought that was interesting.
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Roger? I think that all the and I I was still watching a trial during COVID when they were doing everything on Zoom. Mhmm. And I forget what the issues were, but the judge was saying, well, I need to know that so I decide which way we're gonna go. Well, what she mean which way we're gonna go? Under common law or or or over under the California state of California under somebody that's, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So my feeling, and it's always been this, is those people all are wearing two hats. Vast majority of them don't understand it. I mean, let's get serious. It's been a very effective scheme and scam they've run here.
But I think that they can switch a second. I think they can just switch hats out myself depending on the circumstances and the quote, unquote person situations they're dealing with. Was that I know Mark, or you had something to say. Was that Rick sitting in the background?
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No. No. That was me. It was you, Paul. Okay. Yeah. I turned my mic down so I wouldn't be so obnoxiously loud. I think there's a preponderance of evidence to indicate that the state of California is a political subdivision irrespective of how they named it or or stated it What they called. In their constitutions. I don't think they drilled down that deep into actually understanding the the subtle nuances behind the naming the title of the document. I don't think it's something that we really need to belabor. And, I don't know. I just I I wouldn't wanna wet in Mirka's Wheaties, because by and large, she is absolutely correct. Political subdivision, and that is evidenced by the fact that if you owe no federal income tax, you owe no state income tax.
And by their own rule right.
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It goes to evidence of statement I make to y'all occasionally that you can take any one of these points and you can discuss them for hours. That's how deep we're going into this crevice right now, and it's just fascinating. I'm not saying good or bad. I think it should be discussed. It helps all of our understanding. But, boy, the the scam that they have laid out here, boy, it is slick. Yes, Martha?
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So so, yeah, Paul, exactly, what he said. He the state of, if you look it up, it is the corporation for whatever state you're talking about, state of Texas, state of California, they're the corporations under the municipality of The United States who is controlled by District of Columbia. If you're participating with this bankruptcy.
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In bankruptcy.
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Yeah. When you're participating with these, municipal municipalities because they're under District of Columbia, you're participating with the foreign entity that controls it. And that's what's keeping people, all the masses, you know, under their thumb and control because they don't know the difference between the words that they're using, the the dialect and the equivocation that they're using. So, you know, we, as private individuals, we need to understand that. We need to take that in and understand that we are now in the private, and our power is behind our affidavit of citizenship evidence that we rebutting their presumption and using our lawful legal notices and the affidavits to hold them to their to their feet to the fire. So Yeah. I mean, it's up to us to educate, them, and I've been asking questions with, you know, local areas, you know, people that were, mixed into dealing with, you know, like the bank or whatever.
They're following federal regulation. Well, they're They're not following the the private. You know, they're not respecting the private. They're just rolling over you with the federal regulations
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and imposing it on you, but it's up to us to rebut and Yeah. I You know, live If you want carry ourselves that way. I'm gonna I'm gonna take everything Merkin just said and boil it down. If if one wants to defend one's rights, one must be a belligerent claimant.
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Quick comment.
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Period. Yes, Paul.
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Mhmm. Seeing as we we seem to love to Google shit and read it on the air, I think I'm gonna do the same thing. What we're forgetting about is another definition that Charlie, our sweetie from Colorado came up with is the phrase Where has she been? This state. The phrase in this state legally means the physical location within the defined borders of a specific state and can also include territories owned by or ceded to The United States within those borders. The precise definition could vary slightly depending on the specific law or context, but it always always refers to the geographical boundaries of that state. Now when they're saying in this state, in any legal document, they're saying that they consider you within the territorial boundaries of the state of California, the legal subdivision of The United States.
In this state is what we need to pay more attention to than just state of California. Where they have
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subject matter jurisdiction, you've got to separate that to personum and separate yourself from that presumption that you're involved in that. May I ask you now? Well, hold on a second. Two, three, p. Matt wants to say something. I think Larry does, MRCA does. Matt.
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Yeah. So I just wanna I I'm in a complete agreement with with what MRCA and Paul are saying, and I just wanna add one more thing. When you think about it, in every state and and in this state, I've used out of my documents in the state or in the state, you can actually look up like in California and that taxation and revenue code, they actually define it in there in two different places and it is within the federal territory. The other thing to consider is, everybody that votes, the only people that can vote in any state are federal citizens, AKA US citizens.
Yes. So everything is federal, both geographically that they're talking about and anybody that votes has to be a US citizen to vote AKA federal citizen.
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So with that, I Well, now now Dave and Kaye have proven that to be an incorrect presumption because the head attorney for the state Alabama registered them as nationals. And then the supervisor local level took their reregistration with their, affidavit attached.
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So Roger, what what what
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we're talking about is this shift and this illusion where they've got both of them as the same entity. All the US citizens are US nationals. And then they only refer to the US citizens.
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Roger, a question for you. Did we ever get an a correct a confirmation saying that they are on there as a national? Not the tracking, not the,
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like Who who are you talking about?
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About Damon Kaye.
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Well, yes. They got they corresponded with the head attorney at the state of Alabama's election division. He's the one that put him on the list.
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Right. But did he write it out as you are confirmed as a voter, as a national?
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Or they let them be nothing like that. We Oh, I'm gonna let Dave answer you right here. Yeah. We didn't get that, specificity, but what we did was have them initial off on the attached affidavit, which clearly stated we were national. So, no, we didn't get anything that that yes. We're letting you vote as a national. Although I although I did get an email where I asked specifically that question, and I got an affirmative. So I think we're pretty close to having, an official document And that's just them signing.
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They probably just added you as a, added you, but still consider showing you as a US citizen
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on their affidavit attached to his registration, Mirka.
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Right. But if if if you're participating and they're still considering you a US citizen, it doesn't mean anything because when they vote, their votes don't count. It's just a suggestion. You're not doing anything to move anything in the voting as a US citizen. And even though they did local.
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They're participating, especially in their local election when it comes to local officials Right. Which have a direct vote on them. So I say you're wrong.
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Well, I see I see it as they're just it's just a suggestion as any other US citizen voter. And there there is not they're not taking it seriously. And the only thing that they're gonna take seriously
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is the court of record that we have. Oh, okay. Well, but you said we gotta educate. They educated the head attorney in the state of Alabama at the secretary of state's election division. Isn't that accomplishing something?
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They have They it's showing them that there's a difference. Said he registered them, and the supervisor's
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now aware, and he made the corrections at the local level. So I don't know. It may not be worth it may be like peeing up a rope. Okay? But it's just to me one of these things that was important, especially couple years ago when Trump was running. K? So Yeah. They're aging now. Whoever that's where Matt. I Their aging now knows that they're nationals. That's good. Okay. Hold hold on. Who's who's the person there, the guy? Matt.
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Matt. Oh, Matt. Yeah. Okay. I just Yeah, man. So even even if even if, say, let's just
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assume David and Kaye are correct and it's working. My point is all the state elections, everything, it's it's done by federal citizens. And maybe it's only done by 99.99999% of federal federal citizens, but it's still it's all federal citizens with maybe with the exception of David and Cade. So I think, you know, there's something to consider. There's no separation. It gets that's my point. There's a zero separation. It's federal citizens that are deciding every state election.
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Yeah. And the whole thing is the presumption of federal citizenship. That's what filing an affidavit and how it separates us. And then again, if you wanna it depends on how belligerent you wanna get and how far you wanna press this personally. K? In the end, doesn't it? There was a couple other people trying to say something a month ago. One of them well, alright, Larry. Let's Paul first. Go ahead. We'll get Larry after.
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Okay. Larry, I'll give it to you in just a second. The only elections that could be state elections would be specifically and exclusively for state actions, like, representatives, assembly members, and all that happy stuff. It's not a federal election at that point. But any any election that is associated with anything federal, you know, even senators and congressmen, that is a federal only election, and it covers everything in a blanket. So if you can find a local state election that only deals with you and your state, go ahead and vote. But, otherwise, stay home.
Forget your sticker that says I voted. Thank you, Larry.
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Joe voted. Quadra, I was just gonna say, I was just gonna say that, Grant made the comment at least two times over the last year that there's nothing wrong with state or federal governments being seen as corporations. The corporation allows them to have elite personality in court in case they need to bring a lawsuit against you, like in a like in a criminal, like, murder trial, like the state against so and so, or if you need to bring, you know, an action against them in terms of a civil action.
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Yeah. I I tend to agree with Brent. Who else got something wanna weigh in on this? Yes. Daniel, we left we left Daniel. Daniel, you see what your question where your question's taken?
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Oh oh, I'm here. Yeah. It's fascinating. It's it's really interesting to hear the whole debate. Now this is great. I'm going to tear up a poop storm.
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Who was trying to say something there when you stepped on it? A sketch? Is that sketch?
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Yeah. Then there's the question. Yes. Then there's the question question that Shane brought up. He votes as a delegate. Now
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True. That
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is the sticky wicket.
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Yeah. There is the sticky wicket. Well, it's But for the most part. Shane Shane's kind of a sticky wicket. For the most part, if voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. If it mattered, they wouldn't trust you with it.
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Well, then the question is, are they still voting in the franchise?
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It the whole the that all these systems and institutions have been so totally corrupted. There ain't no telling what they're doing. I think our hope and prayers should be that Trump is gonna make some inroads and straightening this out. They've already been successful in some areas, and they are pushing to see if they can get as many jurisdictions as they can to go back to paper ballots by, I think, next year this time. So, anyway, let's hope that happens.
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May I? That's hope of Israel. Ma'am. That's no reality.
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And the constitution
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doesn't refer to people Hold on a second. They can get some of it done boring. I don't know how much. I didn't say the whole country, but that's what they're aiming for, and that's their goal. Now who's the female?
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Lisa. Lisa. For.
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Oh, r r. Lisa, please.
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Lisa's trying to get in there. Yeah. I'm gonna put on.
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Somebody's got a mic open to the conversation in the background. If you could please
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thank you. I got that. That was Harold. Your mic was open. But in the constitution, doesn't it refer to the people as electors and not voters?
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Well, there's electoral college, then there's voters. They're different. And that's what the Dems are trying to get away get get taken away now is the electoral college, where it makes a democracy on how many people voted for what candidate. The way it's structured, we're a republic, and those voters who boil down to electors, and it's the electoral college and those votes that dictate who wins. The way I understand it, Lisa.
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The, constitution says refers to electors, electing the house of rep your federal house of representatives. It's in there. Well, that that's what here here's what started all of this.
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Back after, John and Glenn were raided in Vegas, they moved back up to Salt Lake City, and John started running against Orrin Hatch. It was an election season, and Glenn was running running against whoever the local representative was. And before they went and got registered and started to qualify and run as candidates, they went Glenn told me they went down to their super bar supervisor and got themselves registered as electors. I mentioned it on the air. That's my knowledge of what he told me still, and, that that was possible. So I suggested some people, they wanna go see if they could get their registration changed to electors. I believe that's where all this started.
And I'd kinda forgotten about the electors part, but you just brought it to my memory there, Rick. Thank you.
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Mark is with us also, Roger.
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Mark Arge is here. We'll add an Arge in. You know, an Arge is like his, face scan. Arge. There he is. Hey, man.
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What's up? Interesting
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conversation this morning. Well, we're delving into the aspects of voting. Well, speaking of that fine points of it. Yes, sir.
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There was a gentleman man, I'm gonna forget his his country. I wanna say Bosnia or Hungary, but he was on a a private jet headed to The United States to testify about the the voting machines and how that these are manipulated overseas. So our votes, what was the name of the voting machine? Help me out, guys. It's been a while since I've
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Dominion. Dominion. Dominion. Dominion. The American voting machine.
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Yeah. I think he actually worked for Dominion. And, so he's got basically inside information about how that's that's totally corrupted.
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Yes. And it was handled the the the headquarters to do all the shifty work was over Slovenia or someplace. Yeah. Slovakia, somewhere in Europe.
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Yeah. And I think flying in from? Where were they where were that's headquartered? Where were they tabulate all these votes? And Yeah. You know, do their thing. Anyway, that's he's flying in, I guess, to testify before congress.
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Well, fantastic. Back up again again. Fantastic. The answer answer me is riddle me riddle me this, Batman. Did did they get all of this food stamp crap taken care of yesterday or they're gonna be could should we look for riots? I didn't get a chance to know. They were talking about some kind of nuclear nuclear,
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deal at the end of the day. Heard that. I've not heard that. I know that they're the Democrats are crying that all the White House has to do is take the, I guess they've got excess funds that are in reserve for emergencies and use that to, you know, pay for SNAP benefits. Well, it comes to light that that will only last, like, two to three weeks. Yeah. So now what's even worse, I'm trying to think who I saw this from, they were running down the the oh, it was Patrick Bet David. Patrick Bet David. Yeah. Awesome show. He, they were breaking down this whole snap EBT debacle.
Ready for this 75% of the food stamps just the food stamps are going to illegal immigrants. 75% and when they named off the billions of dollars it would save if they cut them out, it was just crazy. So and this is what the this is what the Democrats are fighting for to keep those people supplied with funds.
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And So and under Obamacare too.
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Yes. Yes. That too. So they're acting like it's all the Republicans' fault, but, you know, you you had to have what is it? I forgot what type of majority it is. It can't be just 51% in the in the senate. It's the filibuster
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level, 60.
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Okay. Okay. That's what they're talking
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about. Trump Trump was asking him to lift the filibuster yesterday in passing. I didn't know if that happened or not.
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Not to my knowledge, but I haven't I haven't slept since then, and I haven't looked any further today. I've been Uh-huh. Busy doing my duties this morning. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Good to have you stop by, though, in the midst of all that. Thank you. Right. Yeah. You're welcome. The the other thing too that I caught yesterday was, on on on, Infowars. They had they had what's his name? Del Bigtree. Yes. I see. And they were talking about they were talking about RFK Jr. And just going through and, I mean, he's just taking the whole FDA to task and the who and, you know, he he is, you know, he's he's part of the or he's the head of the was it HHS?
Health and human services, I think? Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's the Well, he is just he is just wrecking their system. And
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Go ahead.
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I was gonna say it's happening over at Justice with that chick that's the head the lady that's the head of the, civil rights division. Her name starts with an m, and she's basically equal to Pam Bondi in that position. I think she had to be certified by congress, and they're pressing somebody, oh, Fulton County, on the election and all from the last cycle that they would not respond to on previous subpoenas. And and they got delivered one from, the Department of Justice yesterday. So they, you know, they are making moves. Alright?
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Yeah. Yeah. The, Dell Bigtree was talking about the vaccines, and this is kind of a Roundup junior and leading over, well, that, you know, RFK was talking about banning the use of Roundup or glyphosate, and he immediately banned all the the, dyes, the food dyes that are in our foods. And I started looking at the vaccines, and Del Bigtree just happened to talk to, a scientist who's who's part of the Henry Ford Foundation or Scientific Research Department.
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It's a it's some Henry Ford named organization.
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Now Yes.
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Don't get the wrong impression. Like, we we hear the Ford Foundation, you think that's affiliated with Ford. It wasn't. It was set up by the enemies after Ford left. They do very, very diabolical things, I e, La Raza. La Raza started when the Ford Foundation printed up a bunch of comic books and shipped them down to Southern Mexico about twenty five years ago.
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Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, the scientists had heard Del Bigtree talk about there's never been a double blind study with these vaccines.
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Yes.
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So he was ticked off because that was his area of interest. And so he was gonna prove Del Bigtree wrong, and they had, set a, I guess, a dinner date or a meeting to talk about it. And the scientist was gonna show up and disprove Del wrong. And when they sat down, he told him, you know, I just knew you were wrong on pro vaccine. And then I went back to look at, you know, the documents, for the studies of all these vaccines. And you're right. There was never a double blind study, no placebo group. So they had nothing to go by.
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So The news of the movie. It's a documentary. It's called an inconvenient study, and I think you can still watch it for free on inconveniencestudy.com.
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Oh, is that right? That's correct. Anyway, just to finish up, the guy said he said, I'm shocked. I'll do the study. And, yeah, Big Tree held his feet to the fire and said, will you publish it? And he said, yes. And then he stalled and stalled for a couple of years. They go and get him to do it, and then he won't publish it. They had to go put his feet to the fire on that.
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Yeah. And he still didn't publish it. So the only release of that information was the film Incon An Inconvenient Study.
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Yep.
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No. He still didn't publish it because people were telling him people were telling him that, this could not only end your career, but end your family's fortune, but it can end your life Yeah. If you publish this study. And he just didn't have the stones to do it.
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Yep. So
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I was very impressed with Big Tree. I don't think I'd ever seen him for, like, an hour, like, on Alex yesterday, man. He was, he was almost beside himself in his oratory.
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Right.
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Right. Well, anybody that can overtalk Alex.
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Because
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he was, Alice was butting in a couple of times before Dale had finished his thought and he just elevated his voice and talked over to the top of him.
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I saw somebody was interviewing be able to do that and overcome him the other day. I don't remember who it was, but he just continued forcefully saying what he was saying and kinda over Right. Overrode Alex a bit. So good for him.
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I'll I'll see if I can find the start of that, with the the interview with Dale Bigtree, and and, Paul is correct. It's inconvenientstudy.com is where you can go watch it. And Dale explained how, you know, that they had donors, and I guess he's got a foundation, and all their costs were covered. And so he wants this out far and wide. And, on top well, here's what was fascinating. I'm not gonna forget this the representative's name. But Dale had another meeting with the scientists who come back and he'd done the report. And he said, he gave the report to Dell and he said, I'm not releasing this.
And gave his reasons why. And Dell was like, but you promised. He said, you're at the end of your career. So that probably kind of tells me what Paul is saying. He knows it'd probably be his life if he, you know, let that go. So Dell's sitting there with this full report, and he goes, I can't publish it because it's copyrighted. He's worried about getting sued for copyright infringement. So he shows a congressman and I forget his name, darn it. But the congressman says, oh, I don't have a problem publishing it under the public good. So for the public good, I can publish it. And then once he published it, Dale could take it and publish it from there.
Ron Johnson. Anybody. It becomes a public document at that point. So that's how they they got this report out into the public.
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And Andy said it was Ron Johnson.
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Yes. That's correct. Ron Johnson. Thank you, Andy. Guy from Wisconsin.
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Doctor. Which is Yeah. Was somebody trying to say something? They're in the who? Yes. Well, there's Merica. Yes.
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Do you remember, when we talked about the voting and how it contracts you into all these other contracts as a US citizen?
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No. I don't.
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Because it it's connected to the license, and it's connected to something else. I forget what. But, from what Ken Ken, reminded me, and Daryl has said this before, that it's a contract when you're voting, and then they presume that you're gonna obey their whatever they're they're imposing on you after the voting is done. So, you know, that's one thing to think about.
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It's a it's gonna be an uphill battle for people that participate. All those all all those are connected through through federal citizenship, so I don't know that voting has anything special otherwise to do with it. So, anyway, so, let where were we when before that, we were off talking about Dale Bigtree and this, autism convenient study. Yeah. Do you know and I was shocked. Even preemies, they insist on giving a hepatitis b shot too. And that's a sexual shot. Oh, good. That your frontage. Heartbreak. Oh, man. You said the nurses can sit there with the preemie. Pardon me. Like what?
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And I it's it's sexually transmitted or dirty needle, so drug users. Well, let's back up.
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For people who may not know this, when a when a newborn is, you know, first born, the hospitals are mandated to give them a hepatitis b vaccination. And the problem with that is that is a sexually transmitted disease. So the likelihood of that that newborn being born with hepatitis B is almost nil unless the mother was infected. So there's really no cause for them to give them this hepatitis b. And if it's a premature and they give them the hepatitis b, they have a high rate of death. And the nurses in the preemie yeah. The the nurses in the preemie wards, know that when they get ready to give them that shot, they bring in a, you know, special what they call a crash cart in case the baby goes into cardiac arrest.
But they've watched with their own eyes when they give them that shot and they start squirming and they're in pain. And and often it will cause the brain to swell and they die or gives them a heart attack. So, you know, I have a couple acquaintances that never vaccinated their kids. Not, one of them some of them had them at a hospital, others had them at home, but they never vaccinated their kids. Those kids were some of the healthiest kids you ever seen. Bright eyed, smart, sharp, you know, just unbelievable. And and what Dale was saying when they've done this study is, you know, we're the most highly vaccinated country in the world, and we're the sickest sickest. So it's it's pretty interesting what's going on.
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Paul? There was another thing in that, in that movie. There were a number of maladies, a number of ailments that they could not recognize because the unvaccinated group had zero occurrences of that ailment. So Right. They could not even compare the twenty three, affected vaccinated children as opposed to the zero affected. Those they just pulled those, instances right out of the study. They could only show a difference in infection between, numbers greater than one or whatever because then that didn't qualify as a representative sample just based on the rules of how they set stuff up. So there were a number at at least a half a dozen or more ailments that unvaccinated children had never ever ever been diagnosed with ever. Comment.
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Comment. Comment.
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Yeah. Yeah. And one of the reasons that the the, guy at Ford said he wouldn't publish it was because of what happened to the doctor Peter McCullough and all the other doctors that were blacklisted and and and had their license taken away.
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And
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license. Yes. And last night, Lisa brought to me did my attention a Mike Rowe interview and, a a guy who's deep in statistics, and he went over the ingredients of a lot of the vaccines, and it is appalling.
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Appalling what they're putting in. Sketch, I believe that guy is a criminal investigator, I think, is what he actually does that wrote that book.
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Thank you, Lisa, for bringing that forward.
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Victory is saying that they went and maybe Mark can help me with this. You've got a real good recall of that conversation yesterday. They went back and did a whole worldwide study on, or or search on research that has been done already that had been kinda hidden. And the 70% of all of these, I forget how many there were, but there was a huge percentage, were already saying the connections with the vaccines for autism. So this is about to even though it's pretty exposed now, I think it's gonna get even more exposed to the public as we go forward. These guys are getting exposed on every damn corner of their vector of their agenda.
All of them.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And here we sit with what we've got.
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Here's the solution. Here's the solution. File your affidavit, declare yourself a national, put everybody on notice, including the public health official for your state. And if you are expecting a child, file a preemptive affidavit for that child, file it with the secretary of state, have a copy of that and a fee schedule that you can present to the hospital, denying their ability to vaccinate the child at all ever with a very healthy fine for if they do. $1,000,000 for hepatitis b vaccine. Put them on notice.
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Unless there's a a complications in the pregnancy, why don't you just get a doula and have it at home?
[01:15:09] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, another thing that's interesting is they mentioned that ROK Junior is taking away the mandates and that's that it's going to be, you know, an an informed decision. But it's going to be a decision and not just you got to take this. You got to give your kid this.
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You know?
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So it was really good. I just posted the link in the chat, and I'm gonna go over to, the number two radioranch dot chatango dot com. That's numeral two radioranch dot chatango. That's ch a t a n g o c h a t a n g o dot com. And I'm going to post, I'm just now posting it over there as we speak. But I really highly recommend you really get the nutshell version in that interview. And, I mean, your mouth will open, especially when they talk about vaccinating babies. Oh, my gosh. It's criminal. And then Dale has something very interesting.
Yeah. It is. Well, it's demonic, really. And Dale is a is a devout Christian and he brings in the Christian aspect of it. Boy, you wanna talk about opening your eyes real quick? It's kind of a shocker. So I would I would strongly recommend going over there.
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Mark, if you go listen to that Mike Rowe interview also, and it's interesting. It's very convenient because if you would just wanna hear this man speak of because he talks about a lot of government lies through over the years, all the cover ups and stuff. But that list of ingredients in these vaccines is right at the one hour mark. I mean, it's right at the one hour mark. Yeah. So it makes it very convenient if you just wanna go to that. And I have another comment too. I wonder about the vitamin k, which they've done that to newborns. So right after birth, within the first day, anyways, and they've done that since '61.
And that's the only vaccine that my granddaughter had, and she still has, well, she had egg allergy, but now with age, she grew out of that. But she still has a very high nut allergy and eczema issues, and that's the only vaccine she ever had. That'll be darned.
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Hey. No pharma key.
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Roger, you mentioned about them being exposed. I don't know if you're aware, but APAC is warning their donors now not to donate through APAC. They're Yes. So so so ruined that they're saying do it individually now.
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One some of these people that are starting to appear and run for office, the question they're being asked is, are you taking any money or plan to from APAC? They're having to shift it over to other through other channels to get it to them. Boy, now that's a really good sign right there. You you know, that that I I can never even remember dreaming about anything like that happening, and to see it as a reality is it's pretty darn inspiring to me. So the people are finally waking up.
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Yes. They are. You know, Charlie's Kirk's assassination
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really brought a lot of things to life. It really did. Here's a trick. Boy, you wanna talk about a tipping point? Holy smokes. Was that a tipping point?
[01:18:54] Unknown:
Yeah. It's amazing. But, hey, Roger. I know this we're, you know, seventeen minutes past the hour, and, you know, we might ask if there's any any new students who might have a question in there. I know we're all kind of talking political stuff. Yeah. And we've also got,
[01:19:12] Unknown:
Larry is gonna give us a more measured, definition and showing people how to do a fifteen one zero three. I think we also had that on the agenda today. Are you still for that, Larry?
[01:19:28] Unknown:
Roger? Yeah. I'm, I'm I'm getting off work in ten minutes, and we could do it in about ten minutes.
[01:19:34] Unknown:
Alright. We'll check back in with this. Just say, hey. Now's a good time, and we'll let you roll. Other than that, I believe go go get ready to clock out, and let's talk to Robbie. I believe that was Robbie, wasn't it?
[01:19:47] Unknown:
Yes. Good morning. Good morning. I just wanted to bring some more good news. You probably, saw the Tucker Carlson versus Christian Zionism. I have an article, from a evangelical standpoint. Tucker Carlson claims Christian Zionism is the biggest threat to Christianity, hates it more than leftist writers, Islamic terrorists, Nazis, Chinese communists, says Christian Zionists are heretics, not Christians, and claims evangelicals worship Israel over scripture and prioritize foreign entanglements.
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God bless him. Well, they're coming after him. Well, good on you, Tucker. And they're coming after him with claws open over this, Nick Fuentes interview this week. And so, boy, Tucker is really talking the talk and walking the walk, and God bless him. And he's somebody you might wanna pray that God gives him a protection
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at night. Yes. We have the Tres Amigos now. We have, Tucker. We have Nikki, and we have miss Candace, which I don't know if you discussed because I haven't been on much this week. But if you listen to her first, well, any interviews after she was gone for a few weeks, Man, she's really bringing it out about the Charlie Kirk thing. Praise the lord.
[01:21:20] Unknown:
Well, I haven't heard any of those personally. We've I think somebody mentioned them. We haven't talked about them enough by any means. So I'm glad to see that she's being vocal. I did hear she said she wasn't going to, cow tail to that judge's, cease and desist order on talking about it.
[01:21:40] Unknown:
Oh, she's letting it all hang out. So if you go to her YouTube, my only complaint about her is she does get millions of hits, so she has lots of ads to to reap as much money as she can out of it. But I, you know, I don't know if I can blame her, but it's horrible listening to her YouTubes with all the ads. But all of the videos since she came back are explosive.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
Have you, what browser do you watch it on? Have you tried Brave? Brave may stop some of those ads. Oh.
[01:22:15] Unknown:
Well, I usually use Mozilla, but I do have Brave. So I'll I'll check that out. Try try Brave and see if it doesn't strip them for you. K?
[01:22:23] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. There you go. Where else? Well, Larry's gonna come back in just a minute. Anybody else got anything to bring up on what we've, the brisk brisk conversation we've had today? Well, there's somebody right there. Hello?
[01:22:39] Unknown:
Hey. It's it's Daniel again. Hey, Daniel. I just I just had one more, little question. So, in Morco's Telegram group, she shared a really interesting screenshot from, the federal style manual, I think it was, where it shows the the the the demonyms, you know, the what you're supposed to call people of different nationalities, and it has all the states listed, Alaskan, Alabaman, you know, and and, you know, Tennessean, Ohioan, all of these things. And then it says Hawaii resident. Fascinating because I I wonder if that edition of the federal style manual was from the time when Hawaii being the last state, you know, was still a territory. So you couldn't be a
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Hawaii, and you had to be a Hawaii resident. Well, that's that was gonna be my guess. That was gonna be my guess as to what happened. They just hadn't updated it.
[01:23:46] Unknown:
Right. And and and so just seeing that was really fascinating. Kinda help bolster my my belief that it is possible to be something other than a resident, because because there were a moment there where I was I was just, you know, reading through the Alaska statutes as they are today. You know, they give you this really simple geographical definition that that says, you know, you live in Alaska. You are a resident. And, I'm just wondering if there's anywhere I can find, like, a PDF of the federal style manual, maybe one of the older editions, or if there's, you know, a newer edition that you don't have to buy. I'm I'm really curious to to look at that a little more.
[01:24:26] Unknown:
I don't know. Go go search and then find it if, and let us know if you find one. Send it to Paul. He'll put it up there. They, like, there's another one called the Chicago Styles manual, I believe. And it's a little blue book. We had it in paralegal school. Mark, you remember that? And it's, how do you do all this stuff correctly with the punctuation and the capitalization You remember that little book?
[01:24:53] Unknown:
No. I never saw that book. We just had a, you know, we just had a legal research and writing, book in our instructor, but I don't ever recall seeing any style manuals taught.
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Mhmm. Yeah. It's kinda what, what they've used to anyway, but good honor. I did Marco. Where'd you find that, Marco? Just searching around or what?
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Well, I think it, what's his name?
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McDonald.
[01:25:23] Unknown:
Oh, Richard McDonald? Well, then you know it was old because Richard McDonald's been dead for twenty years or more.
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Yeah. He's the one that's there. He got the
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but also,
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I Daniel, that comes
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for the manual myself because I think I had a call
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so I just need to find it. Okay. And then I'll share that video with, Daniel so he can listen to it. Alright.
[01:25:48] Unknown:
Richard McDonald, I met him years ago in the with John and Glen. He came to their Las Vegas Conventions where I met him. And then I was in California one time and stopped out there and saw him. And he had the most interesting house. He was between the canyons, you know, like this canyon and that canyon in the woods as you go from one to the other. And he had a law library that was built around a tree. There's a little big old tree, old tree, didn't wanna cut it. And he built this law library around it in a circle. And, Chris, our listener from California, has got all or part of that law library.
And that was sir Richard McDonald was his name, Daniel, and he was a delightful gentleman. He was California state citizen guy and just a real character. And I'm I'm I'm pleased to have met him and known him a little bit. So that's where that she mentioned that's where it came from.
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Great. Thanks. That's fascinating.
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Yep. Well, some of the people that have gone before us that you folks that are new just have no idea of the stories and the sacrifices and the casualties and fatalities and tragedies that have gone into this battle ever since I've been in it for thirty something years. So, and here we are. We got the answer. Everything man, you do this and all the storm settles and the the the waves get real glassy and you got a nice following wind and you just go about your life. Amazing. Thank you, Lord.
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Hey, Rob. I've got a question for Robbie. Okay. I'm looking at the Candace Owens, YouTube channel, and there's only one video that she did seventeen hours ago. The most recent beyond that was one month ago. Candace, versus Milo, the rise of the gay tragedy.
[01:28:03] Unknown:
Yeah. That's not the same thing I saw, Paul. Let me let me go to where I have it and take a look. Maybe it's a different channels.
[01:28:11] Unknown:
There's a real real Candace O with 5,500,000 subscribers and 1,500 videos. Oh, there's candace owens dot com. Maybe there's,
[01:28:28] Unknown:
more on here. It's it's candace owens as far as I know, but I'm checking, Paul. Give me a minute here.
[01:28:35] Unknown:
Yeah. It's the one with five point May I just ask checking and Maybe Yes. Maybe YouTube's already scrubbed them.
[01:28:44] Unknown:
No. I was on it today. Hold on. Well, I can't find it. Oh, lord. Help me. Come on. Come on now. Oh, please.
[01:28:56] Unknown:
So lovely. Yeah. My The seventeen hour video was Candace Owens and Norman Finkelstein. Half of Israeli Jews believe Israel should commit a genocide.
[01:29:10] Unknown:
Okay. I I'm on it all. It's Okay. The YouTube channel the YouTube channel is called Candace Owens, and I'm gonna flip back to the,
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So look at the videos list and tell me if if you're seeing different videos, Senaya. Yeah. Because the most recent was seventeen hours ago, and the next recent was one month ago.
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How the hell is Candace Owens allowed to do that on YouTube?
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Hey. That's right.
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Where the hell have you been, Dave? We haven't seen you in days.
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I I've been lurking, but, she had a lot going on. I've been trying to get in here waiting for a moment, but
[01:29:56] Unknown:
I just have that. Computer's freezing my computer's freezing up, Paul. So
[01:30:03] Unknown:
Dave, that's called control opposition, Dave. Exactly. Thank you.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, I agree with what Paul and Mark have said about the voting stuff. I yield.
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K. So, Mark, I have a question.
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Shane, go ahead, buddy.
[01:30:23] Unknown:
Yeah. What's the name of that movie again? Inconvenient Study. Come
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Study. Inconvenient Study. Study.
[01:30:32] Unknown:
An,an,inconvenientstudy,all1word,.com. Yeah. You can not only watch the video, but you can also download it.
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It's,
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thank you, Paul. I put a link in the chat for Rumble for a Candace Ellen podcast. Okay. And it has one from seventeen hours ago, twenty hours ago, a day, two days.
[01:30:57] Unknown:
That's all over on Rumble?
[01:30:59] Unknown:
Yep. And I put a link in the chat. Three days, four days, and then it goes to twenty two days.
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Just Candace. Candace Ellen.
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Okay. Podcast. No. It's Candace Show podcast. I'm sorry. Candace Show podcast.
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Okay. I put the YouTube over in, the chat. I'm getting ready to put it over at Chateango.
[01:31:21] Unknown:
Roger Barnes. She's not one of Barnes' favorites, but I think everybody else seems to I like her. Yes, Marco?
[01:31:31] Unknown:
I just shared a link for Richard McDonald's educated law website, and he has a federal style manual in there.
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Okay.
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So I already shared it with him. Richard.
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He he was like, he you know, he almost had, like, the the personality of a leprechaun. He's just this jovial little guy, and he dressed in interesting ways. He was a very, very unique individual. And, yep. God bless him. And he'd been in this stuff for years before we met him. Sir Richard McDonald. Quite the guy. I told John about him. John never heard about him and went over there and met him, sat down with him. He's still alive. I've got a picture of him together somewhere. Anyway, yep. Gotta give give recognition that have gone before.
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Yeah. He passed in 2021.
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That's what I remember.
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Recent. Oh, could be. Okay. Yep. He was a hell of a guy. Well, I'll tell you when we met, and there was another guy. I'm not if he was a California state senator. Usually, I could remember his name. But he he was through that class, and he was very renowned out there in California. And, one day over on Statt Miller's show when he used to have Joe, Joanne Rosencrantz, or whatever her name was, and Pete and and, the other guy, Peter t Nettle or and, she was going, well, here's a really good solid piece of legislation. She read this statute, and she and it was that same senator that had written that.
And he was John Glenn's student. So there were some people that went through, that. I'm just really glad it took with me.
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We all are.
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Maybe. Yes. And, Mark, I'm the most unlikely candidate, but I sure am grateful.
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K? I understand.
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I mean, I was thinking last few days about all the stupid bullshit I did when I was younger and, hell, all the crap I put my parents through and money I cost them and, you know, this kid's not gonna be any good and amount to anything and all that. Well, you know, looking back, I kinda have to just shake my head a little bit. I guess I had to go through that those incidents to get where I am. But, man, I sure did some stupid things. I mean, I'm not I did some things I wouldn't be even anywhere near comfortable talking about on here. Right. Right. Well, you know, one thing
[01:34:24] Unknown:
I wanna just point out real quick on that styles manual, remember that that's not law. No. It's not law. It's just an indication of what something might be. So if you see, the big thing that they all talk about is is the all capital letters is a corporation. And that may not necessarily be true. So, you have to look at the facts that support whatever your legal theory is. But the style manual, again, is not law and if you see something in all capital letters it might be an indication of it being a corporation or whatever else the style manual says it should be.
So just and and the other thing too, in the courts, when you walk into a court, and I had a good discussion with Charlie on this, and it wasn't until, Brent Winters clarified it for me about jurisdiction. I've seen several court cases, I need to go back and pull them up, but when you walk into court under just a general appearance you are walking into a court of equity. Now if the facts support common law then you can point that out that these particular facts is it's an issue of common law jurisdiction. And Charlie said she talked to a law professor who said that it was like a big blender. You put all these jurisdictions into a big blender and, didn't really quite explain how to determine what the jurisdiction is that you're in, but you're, and Rogers explained this before, we don't have a court for every jurisdiction like they do in England.
In The States, they didn't have the money to have all these multiple courts and multiple judges, so they allowed each judge at the county level to preside over certain jurisdictions. And most of that is equity and common law. So it really depends upon the facts and the way Brent Winters said it, and then my light bulb went on, he said, you don't find common law, common law finds you. Now that's kind of a roundabout way of saying it's the facts of the case that determine the jurisdiction. If I'm, contracting with a fishing boat or I'm working on a fishing boat under some type of contract I'm probably going to be under some type of maritime law. Okay?
Same thing with, I'm trying to think of some of the other ones, I don't know about Admiralty really, but you also have military. Depending upon the facts, you may end up in a military court. I'm trying to think of the acronym to use it. I'm gonna say it's under the UCMJ, but I don't know what the courts are called. Oh, let me Judge Advocate General, tribunal. Right. Yeah. So so there it's it's really the it's the facts of your case that determine the jurisdiction, but you're probably gonna have to clearly point it out to the judge that this is a matter of common law, but the facts have to support it. It. I yield.
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I mentioned, San Francisco. One California gals kept nut gently nudging me, and I finally went and got it scanned is a handout they gave us back when we were going through these classes, and it goes over this very thing that Mark's talking about. When you can find it, Paul, do you I don't know if you remember where you put it on the website. But for newer students, this might help you. And one of the ways you could tell, I could take Mark over to London and blindfold him and spin him around and take him into one of those buildings. Each building represented a different jurisdiction. And we'd get in there, and I could leave the blindfold on. And Mark, with his knowledge and understanding, would be able to tell which building I took him in determined by what they call the presiding person.
Sometimes it's the judge. Sometimes it's the chancellor. Sometimes it's something else. K? And on the actions that were being taken, because let's say I took him into the King's Bench. Well, the King's Bench is the highest common law court in England, and they'd know that that's a judge. They'd address him as such. They would use the terminology of the eight major forms of actions in common law, debt, debt new. There there's eight major major actions, and then there's subactions under those. But they'd know by the terminology of the things that were being thrown around that it was the king's bench. And then they'd really know because all of them also have separate remedies.
K? And so determined on what they called him, what the actions were, and and what the remedy ends up, Mark would easily know that he was in the king's bench, because all the other ones are different. Now where is the only two? There's about eight of them. I I can't remember them all. There used to be Admiralty and Maritime used to be separate, and the Brits merged them at some point. I remember John saying, I don't remember the time frame. But, interestingly enough, let's concentrate on the remedy side of that. And the only place that self help remedies were ever a remedy were in the law merchant, which is the UCC, so what they used to call it, still do, law merchant and the mineral law because the manners and this is all, before, I guess, the Westphalian agree agreement in the sixteen hundreds.
But before that, when it was all feuds and and and individual of, landholds with this feudal system, they, they used the merchant, law merchant on the manor because that's what they used in the traveling trade fairs that would go around all of Europe. And they were exposed to the law merchant, and they adopted it on the manor. And the the the law merchant and the mineral law are the only bodies where self help remedies have ever been applicable. Hey, Raj. Or in the mineral law.
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That's what the UC is. Go ahead. Go ahead. Are you talking about the nature or character of the various substantive systems of law, that two pages that you scanned that you sent to me. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. That's when Okay. That's up in, Google Drive, docs.exposethematrix.com. The name of the document is types of law PDF, and I just dropped the link in the free conference call chat.
[01:41:52] Unknown:
Hey. That's a really important document. I don't know that you could ever find John compiled that. I I don't know that you could ever find that compiled anywhere. To have that and see the distinct illustration of those really important characteristics that define what body of law you're dealing with. You know, we keep hearing the rule of law. Bring back the rule of law. We follow the rule of law. What damn law? There's eight of them right there.
[01:42:27] Unknown:
Roger?
[01:42:28] Unknown:
Yes. Robbie.
[01:42:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Real quick. I just wanted to tell Paul the mystery salt on that Candace Owen YouTube channel. You have to click on live, Paul. Click on the live button at the top there, and those are her live shows.
[01:42:44] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Alright. Well, I just, grabbed I'm I'm working on downloading, three, six, nine, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, 21, 24, 25 videos from her on Rumble on her, Candace podcast, Candace Show podcast channel. That's got all of it. Larry. Yeah. We need we need to get Larry in here. Yeah. You you you clocked out.
[01:43:18] Unknown:
Real quick, I may know sorry, Larry. But, Roger, I I emailed you the rumble link for Candace Owens.
[01:43:25] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Lisa. I appreciate it. I do like the gal. Larry, how much time you got? Can you do this in the time we got left? Yeah. I can do it really quick. Sure. Was how was the traffic over there today? You didn't have to deal with any of that game traffic or could you not deal with it?
[01:43:44] Unknown:
Well, it's traffic was starting to get picked up it was starting to pick up, when I was going through 95, which cuts through downtown. So Yeah. But it wasn't too bad. Okay. Just curious.
[01:44:00] Unknown:
Yep. You wanted to give me seven in the do you get this in the I'm gonna try to do this.
[01:44:07] Unknown:
Oh oh, I should be done before then. Alright. So, yeah, Mark Mark brought us this form, 15103, and he went over it one time on the show a few weeks ago. And, this form, is usually included with a CP 59, a c p 515, a c p five one six, or a c p five one eight. And these are a series of non filer compliance alerts that escalate over time, becoming more urgent with each which with each letter. So the one the form one five one zero three is called a form ten forty return delinquency, and you are receiving a notice because the IRS has no record of a required form ten forty income tax return being filed for a specific tax year. This means their records indicate you have an income filing requirement but have not met it. Now, as as everyone knows on this platform, when you file your affidavit with the secretary of state and and declare yourself a national, you're no longer under the jurisdiction of the US government, and its agency is now the the IRS is not an agency. It's a bureau of the Department of the Treasury.
However, they they no longer have jurisdiction over you like any other agency. I believe the Department of the Treasury is an agency, and so, therefore, the federal government and its agencies no longer the and include a copy of your affidavit, and you're letting the commissioner know that on such and such date, I placed my affidavit of citizenship evidence in the mail, and it's considered received on that date, And that's when I declared myself to be a national, and I'm no longer a resident to the residencies. It's, you know, blah blah blah.
And, and, you know, you're no longer required to file any 10 forties. However you wanna word it to the commissioner. You could be as creative as you want. I always encourage people to keep things to one page if at all possible. You know, you don't want you don't want these agents to, you know, have a short attention span and be flipping through, you know, multiple pages. So keep your cover letter to one page, if at all possible, and attach whatever documents that you that you sent to the Secretary of State. So some students have received this, the this, form ten forty return delinquency, which is connected to one of these CP, notices that I just talked about just mentioned a little while ago.
And, and so the IRS is getting you is trying to get you to file a tax form. Now when you first filed your first ten forty, that's when you made the election as a US citizen. In my case, it was it was it was a long time ago, over forty years ago, when I started working, I filed a ten forty e z, and so I made the election to to, you know, consistently and regularly file these 10 forties. I was I I put myself under the requirement to file a, a ten forty every year. It's a self renewing contract with the IRS. So if you fail to file for a year, they could they could come back with notices on you. Well, obviously, when you become a national, you're taking yourself out from all of that.
But, occasionally, you'll still get these notices in the mail, like some of our students have been experiencing. And I think it's because a lot of these these, notices are computer generated. And, and so AI is just reaching out to you to try to get you to file a ten forty so they can get some some more free money from you in the form of a gift because that's what the code calls it. When you when you give your withholdings to the federal government, specifically the, Department of the Treasury, you're gifting your wages away. But, anyway, some students have received the return delinquency, notice.
And, you know, Mark Mark, went over this, like I said, a while ago, and he said, just fill it out. And then, Mark, I am not a mark on the, the form that I am not a US citizen. You could even put an explanation down, and you could fill out the form and all that and sign it. But there's some students on the platform that, like MRCA, they encourage us to just write out legal lawful notices and not to use the government forms. And I don't have a problem with using government forms as long as it's as long as I could use it to get me out of a a situation. I'm gonna use whatever's at my disposal.
Kinda like MacGyver, you get yourself into a situation, and he's gonna he's gonna use whatever he can to take care of the problem. And so, you know, an example of not having a problem using government forms is when we, file our ten forty n r's along with the OI and, you know, that's a government form. And you can't just send the IRS a legal lawful notice saying, hey. I want I want my withholdings back. They're just they're just gonna ignore you, so you have no choice but to use their government forms in that case, in that situation.
So, and in in another another example would be, like, I have a CDL. Every four years, I have to renew it. I have to take out what's called a hazmat test, and I have to use their government forms. That's in this case, it's a state government, but it's still under it's still under the authority of the federal government because in The US constitution, the states have authorized the the US federal government to regulate commerce. And so if I want to provide for my family, I have no choice but to use their forms if I'm gonna keep my job. Now I have a choice to just walk away and not use their forms, but I'm not gonna be a driver. I'm gonna have to go do something else.
So, I mean, I don't have a problem with using government forms, and like Roger's always taught us, like, in my situation, when you punch in, you know, you're you're in commerce, you're in the public, but when I punch out on the time clock, I'm in I'm in the private and I could use my passport if I get stopped, etcetera. So anyway, I try I'm trying to find some middle ground, and I think I came I came across a good way to to, fill out this form, this one five one zero three, and and try to have some middle ground between two extremes. Mark having no problem filling out the form, in its entirety, and and and students like Merca saying, no. We shouldn't be using their forms. We should just use legal lawful notices. Roger,
[01:51:24] Unknown:
he's, he's he's taking, what I'm saying out of context. It's about keeping your when you're removing yourself from the IRS and sending in that you are exempt I wasn't done. I was Okay. Well, I need to correct your your, whatever we say. Correct. Margaret, can you correct him afterwards? We're gonna try and use this It's
[01:51:47] Unknown:
it. To illustrate? Or you're just gonna insist on talking?
[01:51:51] Unknown:
No. I'm just gonna correct him in saying that when we are telling the IRS we're no longer you with citizens, that's what I'm talking about, is sending your IRS notice showing them that we're exempt. He's taking it out of context, and it's it's clearly, explained on my Telegram group.
[01:52:12] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. No no where I was at. Okay. So I'm trying to find some middle ground. There's one thing on the the one five one zero three that is a fact, and that is that one checkbox on page one, that says I am not a US citizen or permanent resident. And, what's interesting is there's a there's a big space between qualified widower and, I am not a US citizen. You could actually put your own box in there, and you could put down, nonresident alien individual, you know, check mark your own little box, nonresident alien individual, status effective. And in my case, it would be 02/11/2023.
Or if you send in a revocation of election, you could put, nonresident alien individual status effective according to the ROE, and you could put, per US Congress, IRC sixty thirteen g four a. But, what you can do is, you could take this form and where it says taxpayer name, you could put form not required. Just get you, like, a a marker, a black marker. The IRS likes their forms filled out in black ink. You could sign them in blue, but they like them filled out in in black. But you can get you a big Sharpie, and you could write form not required under taxpayer name.
And then under under address, you could put let me just finish this real quick, and then then everyone could offer commentary. And under address, you could you could write c revocation of election or c legal lawful notice, date it, and in my case, 02/11/2023. And then under the next section, if you already filed a tax return, you could put with your Sharpie not applicable. And, of course, like I just mentioned, you could check mark the box, I am not a US citizen, because that's a fact. That's probably the only fact that's relevant on this two page form. And then on page two, where it has the signature line, you can write not applicable, and you can write see attached legal lawful notice and affidavit of citizenship evidence, no signature required because your signature is on your affidavit of citizenship evidence and that confirms your identity and it also confirms the fact that you know you're not required to file another ten forty.
And, and so you can you can fill out that form just like that. You've not divulged any private information. The only fact that you put on that form is I am not a US citizen or a permanent resident in that check mark box, and if you wanna add your own box. And then one this is the last thing. On on this on page two, there's the the first third of the page, has the signature line and some other some other things to be filled out. And then the last two thirds is all empty space, and this is where you could actually, you know, you could actually write something in. And Roger always you always teach us that we're educators.
And so, you know, I come up with, something that you could fill that empty space with, and anybody can do this. They could just, you know, just be a little creative and just just tell your story. And if you wanna throw a few codes in there because they have to abide by their own codes. And so I'll read this real quick, and I'll be done. So here's what I would write in on the bottom two thirds of page two. Legal lawful notice and explanatory statement in support of form one five one zero three, reason for not filing at the bottom of page one.
Dear sir or madam agent of the IRS, I am an American national, eight, United States code, paragraph 15 o two, who was born in one of the several states of the union of the constitutional republic and otherwise referred to in the IRC as a nonresident alien individual. 26, United States code, paragraph seventy seven zero one b one b, because I am described to be neither a citizen of The United States or a resident of The United States. That's in quotes, starting at neither. I have always worked for a private company and not for the federal government, which means that in 2022, and this you could put whatever year you've got this return for this delinquency for return, and you can put whatever year that they're trying to get you to file a return. You could put it right there. I was not and have not been engaged in a trade or business in The United States, which is defined as the District Of Columbia and its territories according to the IRC.
Please ref please also reference 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a and the highlighted section of table a one c on page seven of the enclosed ten forty NR instructions. Let me point out that according to this quote section of the Internal Revenue Code, that's what it says in the in the, in the, NR instructions. My income is exempt from US federal income tax. If the agent who receives this notice and explanatory statement does not understand the information and documentation contained herein, please immediately forward this filing to the floor manager and our legal department for further processing. I better just skip this paragraph because the whistler came on. I am merely using form one five one zero three to indicate that I'm not a US citizen and to provide this brief explanatory statement concerning my political status, which was changed from a US citizen to a national, affected the date of my affidavit of citizenship evidence, which when placed in the mail was received by The United States secretary of state. Thank you and regards.
That is my suggestion.
[01:58:35] Unknown:
You should never hear from them again. That's a lot of detail, Larry. You're a real detail oriented kind of guy. If you wanted to ever come back and get this, don't forget we've got the AI attachment to the archives, and you can tap that over into a transcript and get it instead of having to try and follow Larry Gibbet. Thank you, Larry. We got quite a crowd here, don't we? Yep. Alright. We'll just, we'll be finished. Just a second. Julie, go ahead. What do you gotta say?
[01:59:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Larry, could you just please repeat what you said for US Congress, IRC sixty three thirteen or something like that, and what relevance that is, please?
[01:59:16] Unknown:
Well, hold on. Let us dump off the air, and then you can do all that stuff that you want. Okay? We're about to close out the week, our little six day endeavor for the, week of Halloween, and we'll see what in the hell next week brings. It poses to be very volatile. We'll see you soon. Have a good weekend. Now, Julie. But I'm gonna go watch football. So love all of you, Mark. Good to see you, buddy. And, alright. We'll see you on Monday. Y'all have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. And, hopefully, they're not rioting in your neighborhood, Julie.
[02:00:01] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger.
[02:00:02] Unknown:
Yep. Ciao, babe. If if they do, she's got an iron gate.
[02:00:10] Unknown:
Can't get in.
[02:00:12] Unknown:
Yeah. She's got an iron gate and 50 cals on the corner braces. Alright. Thank you, Raj. Okay. Let's,
[02:00:24] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:25] Unknown:
Larry? Yeah. Great show to Yeah. I'm here. Go Yeah.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
I just wanted you to go over that US Congress IRC 63, whatever you said. I can't I couldn't write fast enough.
[02:00:41] Unknown:
I'm trying to think, what I've refer I referenced several codes. Which one? Oh, okay. Let's see. A sixteen thirteen g? 6013 g?
[02:00:56] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it was you said per US Congress, IRC something something.
[02:01:05] Unknown:
Well, the if if you go to United States code section sixty thirteen g, that that's the whole code that deals with the, revocation of election. So you just have to read it over. There's a there's a section in there that talks about terminating the election. That's that's the part you're relying on. Does that answer your question?
[02:01:26] Unknown:
Yep. I think terminating the election to be a US citizen. Correct?
[02:01:30] Unknown:
You're terminating the election, that you you know, you're revoking the election. You're you're turn when you revoke the election, you're terminating it, and that's according to the IRS's own language in a flowchart that's on their site that I discovered. When you send in your legal lawful notice, the account is suspended when they realize you're no longer a US citizen or resident. When you send in because a lot of people, they they're trying to figure out what's the difference between sending in our legal lawful notice and a revocation of election.
Well, according to this flowchart, which is a flowchart, like I said, listed on the inter the IRS website, it's a training flowchart that's used to teach the agents how to respond and deal with nonresident alien individuals. And in that flowchart, like, a couple of pages into it, it talks about if if the, if the the person the individual you're dealing with is not a US citizen or resident, then the account must be suspended. Like, if it's found out, if they if they had elected into the system and they were filing 10 forties because foreign nationals from other countries, if they have a spouse, that is a US citizen or US resident alien in The United States, and they are already filing 10 forties, the the foreign national can make the election to file a joint return, a joint ten forty return, and so they can elect to do that. Well, if circumstances change, they can they can obviously revoke the election like what we do, like an ROE according to sixty sixty thirteen g.
But if circumstances change in other ways and it's found out by the IRS that they're no longer a US citizen or resident, the IRS agent is instructed to put to make the account suspend it. That's the word they used. It's suspended. That's the difference. When you send in your legal lawful notice, that's not it's kinda like an ROE, but it's not. Because you're no longer required to file a ten forty n r when you send in your legal lawful notice, letting them know that you're a a national. You're no longer under the jurisdiction of the of The United States and its agencies, which includes the Bureau of the Internal Revenue Service. And so when, when you do that and they find out, they're supposed they're supposed to suspend the account.
Do they do it all the time? I don't think so. My my working theory is the reason a lot of students continue to get bombarded with, you know, you're required to file, notices from the IRS is because the immediate staff around the commissioner didn't do their job, and this is just my opinion in theory. They didn't do their job and properly put you in the system as a nonresident alien individual. And so what happens is the AI computer, which is very sophisticated with the IRS, it it it it it hasn't been updated with the proper information or the wrong information.
And that's why students, like, three years later, after they filed an illegal offer notice, they will get a they will get a, you know, some type of notice from the IRS. Hey. You didn't file for 2022, and here it's 2025. And so that's why I always encourage students to put that other code that I found where you're changing the status of your Social Security number from a taxpayer status to a nonresident alien individual status. And I think that's what they're supposed to be doing when you alert the commissioner. I I don't think the commissioner is reading all of these hundreds and even thousands of letters, I think, and notices. I think he has a supporting staff like any like any principal in a in a company.
And, and so it's it's stay it's the it's the it's the supporting staff that has to, you know, update the the data in the in the computers. And so I don't think they're doing it properly. They might be doing it erroneously. They may not even be doing it at all. They might just, you know, put your, notice in in the in the filing, like it's in your transcript, but that's about it. It depends on what their training is, you know. Not everyone knows how to do everything. Sometimes when you call any type of company, you will get a knowledgeable agent, and sometimes you'll get an ignorant one where you gotta ask for a manager or a supervisor because they don't know what the heck they're doing.
So, anyway, when you send in your legal lawful notice, they're they're supposed to suspend the account. And when you send in a revocation of election, that according to the flowchart, information, that terminates the account. And you can never re you can never make another election for the rest of your life. It's a once in a lifetime choice, and that's according. That's a quote from the the, IRS website. So, anyway, that's just my 2¢ on on the whole thing.
[02:06:36] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:06:41] Unknown:
That's Bruce.
[02:06:46] Unknown:
Go for it. Go for
[02:06:48] Unknown:
it. Go for it. Okay.
[02:06:51] Unknown:
Okay. Why don't you put a fee schedule?
[02:06:53] Unknown:
If they don't honor or see it and they got a time limit, charge them. They charge you when you have you you have penalties against you. You're gonna penalize them with your fee schedule.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
Okay. A friend of mine discovered, that there is a code or a, a statute that talks about how if the if the IRS and, I mean, I guess you could apply apply this in in different ways, but more specifically, if if you fail to get your withholdings back in the in the form of a refund, there's a code that says the IRS, they have to pay you interest and fees on it. And just like I I, asked on behalf of that of another student, the what the you know, when I went over my last presentation, the IRS actually paid her for two years interest and fees, you know, almost $800.
They paid her interest and fees for wasting her time and for delaying the the refund. And so
[02:08:00] Unknown:
What I'm saying is your your, this this isn't on what it cost you to be in, included. They didn't they didn't, do their job. This is you, not them. Get your your payment back. You're charging them for all the crime they have done to you and everything else. It's your choice, not theirs.
[02:08:26] Unknown:
I I agree with you. The the only thing is we've covered this many times. You know, fees if we give out fee schedules, you know, even on if we give them out on the state level or even on the federal level for for agents trespassing on on our rights, then, you know, how many times has has anyone ever had success? Rogers even mentioned that. You know? The the way you get success and remedy is in federal court. If they persist on some matter, you could actually bring a lawsuit against them, for not doing their job. Now you will you will succeed and prevail in federal court, you know, most of the time, I I would guess, if if you can if you can, you know, state the facts of what what they're doing to you. So
[02:09:19] Unknown:
Yeah. They're damaging you all the way down the line. They're scandals.
[02:09:26] Unknown:
Well, they're not damaging you. They're they're wasting your time,
[02:09:30] Unknown:
and your time is money. And, also, if you double and first.
[02:09:38] Unknown:
Brent, you're breaking up real bad.
[02:09:41] Unknown:
Mister Roboto.
[02:09:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Also, if you know the definition of person. Point? Did you get that?
[02:09:56] Unknown:
Got that.
[02:09:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We did. Loud and clear.
[02:10:00] Unknown:
Got that. And not even robotic. The thing is they're wasting your time, And, your time is worth money, and only you can decide how much it's worth. You know, if responding to, to an errant letter, You know, if they're gonna give you a $5,000 frivolous filing penalty just for, declaring, who and what you are, you turn right around. If they send you a a, confirmatory writing or whatever, you just send a bill right back to them for $5,000 for a frivolous communication. Turn around on them.
[02:10:50] Unknown:
That's your freedom. That is what your freedom is all about, protecting yourself with their your freedom, not their freedom, your freedom.
[02:11:08] Unknown:
Personally, if if I had to take the time to draft a letter rebutting a presumption just because they decided to push a button on a computer, if I had to respond to that letter, I'm gonna get at least $5,000 for responding to it. We're at bastards.
[02:11:27] Unknown:
Okay. Is Merka out there? I was trying to find out what what she disagreed with.
[02:11:36] Unknown:
Merka?
[02:11:40] Unknown:
I don't know if she's still here. She usually doesn't hang out, very long after the show ends. Oh, yeah. She is there. She is there, but, she's muted. Mirka, are you there?
[02:11:59] Unknown:
This is Chris.
[02:12:01] Unknown:
And she must have sent away. Go ahead. Go ahead, Chris. We'll kill a little time. Give Marco a chance to unmute.
[02:12:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Toward the end, you used the word income. I've dealt with the IRS, not for myself because I've never had the problem. But, I put in I have no income to report because I have no income. I never have income. I've never had income. I'll never have income again. That's their word. I don't use that word. That's it.
[02:12:35] Unknown:
Okay. Chris, let let me take a moment to share with you. Your microphone is right in front of your face. So when you, like, do a pee or breathe or whatever, it creates a pop. So just pull the microphone off to the side of your mouth just a little bit, and you'll we'll still be able to hear you and, and it won't mess with the, the auto gain control because every time you make a pop, it turns your volume way down and then it's gotta come back up. Give that a shot. Just pull it away from your mouth a little bit and say something.
[02:13:10] Unknown:
Let me respond to to Chris in California. The you you are correct. It they the definition that the IRS gives to income is not what we think. And the problem is the, the courts will look at those arguments as frivolous arguments, and they always rule in favor of the IRS and The United States, you know, when there when there's a lawsuit. And, so the only thing that gets you out of their jurisdiction, as we all know, and as we're we've all been taught, is filing that affidavit showing that we're volunteering out of the feudal system. We are not a US citizen. We are not a resident of the state, and, you know, they no longer have jurisdiction. That's it. Period.
That's the whole nexus. And, you know, they're gonna they're gonna define their their their their, terms the way they want, and they don't even they don't even abide by their own definitions. I've read various IRS court cases, and they use the same arguments. They they would show what income really is. And, you know, the courts would just look at that, and they just would still rule in favor of The United States. So but I do understand what you're saying. And by the way, we we don't mark we have income, at least taxable income on the when you're filing a ten forty n r, line one a gets a zero.
Your income is considered exempt, and that's where you put the total amount from the OI. You put that on one k, and, that's what gets you your refund back.
[02:15:10] Unknown:
Do you mean the total amount of withholdings or the total amount of, of other, incomes? Nontaxable income.
[02:15:21] Unknown:
Well, well, your your total wages should be on one one a, ordinarily, but because we're claiming all of our wages are exempt from federal taxation, you're going to fill out the OI. And in that little chart chart, I think it's an l the chart that's labeled l as in Larry Larry. You're gonna put your total income in that chart, and you're gonna transfer that to one k on the NR. And that's what shows that your that your entire amount of income is exempt
[02:15:59] Unknown:
exempt. Right. But what you put in one k, as exempt income is only the total of any ten ninety nines or w twos that you've received from your employer. Those total amounts. Any any other amounts that they don't know about, they don't need to know about.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. You know, I mean, if you're doing something on the side, I mean, you're paying you cash. I mean, that's that's yours. But, let's just say you can't
[02:16:35] Unknown:
one case reflect it. One one case should reflect the total amount of, income that was reported to the IRS previously to you filing that. That's
[02:16:49] Unknown:
that's correct. Okay. And, the the the here's here's another example. If you worked for the federal government and say you're collecting a salary of $50,000 a year, and then you also had another job for a private corporation, And whether you're getting, w twos or ten ninety nines, now you're gonna have to show on line one a of the of the 10 r or of the ten four ten forty n r. You're gonna have to show you got $50,000 income because that came from the the federal government, and you do have to pay a federal income tax on that. But if you made $50,000 from a private corporation, let's just say it was in the form of a a w two, So then you would put $50,000 on on the o I, the other information form, and you would put it in the l section that on the chart.
And and you'd also complete that chart just like I laid out in the last presentation. And then that amount, you put on line one k of the NR. So now you're gonna show on your ten forty NR. One a is gonna have $50,000 from the federal government, and you're going to have on one k, the $50,000 that's exempt that you received from a private corporation. And of course, you're going to include your w twos or ten ninety nines or whatever to show that proof. And, then you just complete the NR and follow the mathematics on it, and then it'll it'll you'll be able to determine how much income tax is owed to the federal government, and, of course, everything else would be exempt.
[02:18:36] Unknown:
Groovy. Thank you. Larry? Hey. We done oh, oh, there's Julie.
[02:18:48] Unknown:
Hey, Larry? Go for it. Yeah.
[02:18:50] Unknown:
Where does it say in the code that you only have a one time election?
[02:18:59] Unknown:
I was taking a drink of water. It says that, I found it on in the IRS on on one of their, pages in on their website. I could dig it up for you if you give me a second.
[02:19:15] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:19:23] Unknown:
Well, I think I think it's probably pretty difficult to believe that you could elect to pay taxes then revoke that election, and they won't ever let you elect to pay taxes again. I'm I just don't think that's I don't think that's that's right because they're out of agreement.
[02:19:43] Unknown:
I agree with you.
[02:19:46] Unknown:
Now they may not allow you now they may not allow you to file a revocation of election more than once. So if you elect elect again, they may not recognize a subsequent revocation of election that basically locks you into their shit. You know? Okay. Well, alright. We get the the first time you didn't know about this, and then you figured it out and you revoked your election. But then you elected again. So you obviously now know what that election responsibility was, so there you go. We'll be safe from you till you die.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Say what, Brent? Face of Farmer John.
[02:20:37] Unknown:
Explain.
[02:20:40] Unknown:
John in Georgia and Indiana?
[02:20:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. I Paul. Know if he can do a do another revocation. Yeah, Larry.
[02:21:00] Unknown:
Yeah. My buddy Don is on here, and he's trying to figure out how to get in to the trust course. How does he pay over there at common lawyer lawyer? Can't find it. He goes to come. Walk him to get on. You there?
[02:21:18] Unknown:
All you do is go to commonlawyer.com, you click on the donate button, and you put in $30 as your donation amount, you put in your name and your email address, and you send that donation, and then you use the email contact form on commonandlawyer.com and say who you are, what your email address is, and say that you just made a contribution of $30 to be part of the Radio Ranch Trust Group, the Radio Ranch Trust Group. And that's all he's gotta do. It's just two steps and it Okay. Just goes to commonlawyer.com as a general donation. That's why you have to follow-up with an email for what that donation was for.
[02:22:05] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Paul.
[02:22:07] Unknown:
And when does that start? Wednesday or Monday?
[02:22:11] Unknown:
Starting, starting this week. This coming week, I haven't actually, nailed down exactly when yet. I've gotta put together the first, put put together the first course curriculum and all that. So but I will I will let people know. Talk about Wednesday evenings. Is that
[02:22:29] Unknown:
still a possibility?
[02:22:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Wednesday evenings is the most likely suspect. Yes.
[02:22:35] Unknown:
Perfect. Alright. Thanks. And, Paul, you're gonna not notify everybody?
[02:22:41] Unknown:
Yes. I am. You're gonna notify everybody by email.
[02:22:45] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Thanks, Paul.
[02:22:47] Unknown:
You're welcome. Larry, did you, did you have something?
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I found, to answer Julie's question, this is on the IRS website. I think this might be found in that flowchart, but I'm not sure. It says ending the choice. Once made, the choice to be treated as a US resident for federal income tax and withholding purposes applies to all later years unless suspended, there's their word again, as explained above, or end it in one of the way shown above below. So in other words, the exception is suspended. So you can you can, you when you file your your legal lawful notice, the account is supposed to be suspended, which means if you want to participate again, you can elect to start paying federal income taxes.
That's what that that word suspension has to do with. So they give four reasons, that what I just said applies except for one of the reasons below, and the first one listed is revocation by either spouse. So that account will no longer be considered suspended. It instead, it's gonna be considered terminated. And then it goes on to say for a more detailed explanation of these items, refer to blah blah, and it says this. This is the important part, caution. If the choice is ended for any of the reasons listed above, and there's four reasons. The first one is revocation by either spouse.
The if the choice is ended for any of the reasons listed above, neither spouse can make this choice in any later tax year even if married to a different individual. It is a once in a lifetime choice.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
Yeah. That's not what I've heard, and that's just in a flowchart. Right?
[02:24:44] Unknown:
It's in a flowchart from the IRS.
[02:24:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a chart. That's not, in my opinion, part of the, code because I've heard of other, people teaching these courses that where people have, filed made a revocation filed and then, made a subsequent, and they're in the tax system again, and they've made a revocation again and they're out.
[02:25:10] Unknown:
Say that again? You've heard what?
[02:25:12] Unknown:
I said I am, there's other course people teaching these types of revocations of elections without people being nationals, meaning they have these people are still federal citizens, but they have actually filed revocation of elections with the IRS, and they ended up filing, and then they just filed, and so they ended up filing for three there's this one couple that ended up filing for three years in a row, and then, they elected not to file. And it was the second revocation of election that they filed, and they're not filing, and they haven't been filing for, I don't know, two or three years again. So I it I've that's what I've heard. I've heard. You are you have the right to self determination, and you have the right to contract with the IRS if if you want to and you have the right to not contract with them if you don't want to. They can't force you into signing a contract and when you check that ten forty box, you're in commercial law, you've contracted with them and they can't force you to contract with them. That's what I'm being told in this other class I'm in.
[02:26:13] Unknown:
The thing is, if you've never proven to the IRS that you're no longer a US citizen or resident, which can only be proven through your affidavit of citizenship evidence, they could still determine a tax liability. And, you know, if you send in a revocation of election, you know, as a US citizen, that might still be considered, you know, irrelevant to the to the IRS.
[02:26:40] Unknown:
I don't know, Larry. All I know is that there's another class I'm in, and none of these people are nationals. None of them are. They don't pay taxes. The guy who leads the class hasn't paid taxes in nine years. And they have the same issue that we have with all these forms coming back, these computerized forms coming back. And he's got, former IRS attorneys that used to work for the IRS and former IRS employees that used to work for the IRS on his team that are basically saying that ten forty form is a contract, and they can never force you to enter into any contract that's extortion.
And that is, that makes anything null and void. So I'm just letting you know what, another parallel group is saying. And none of those people who are, filing, revocations of elections with the IRS are nationals. They're still under the fourteenth amendment, and they're not paying taxes. I'm just saying. I'm just a
[02:27:43] Unknown:
messenger. Okay. If Okay. If Oh, you're not supposed to shoot the messenger. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I had that wrong.
[02:27:51] Unknown:
Thanks, Larry, for hurting me today.
[02:27:54] Unknown:
I I hurt you. So I'm just trying to I'm trying to process what you're saying.
[02:28:11] Unknown:
I don't have a copy of the revocation of election. I'm supposed to be getting one, but their revocation of election is much more detailed than the one page revocation of election that we send in. Theirs is way more complicated. It cites, I think, a lot more things than IRS code, and it's all just about that ten forty or ten forty easy form. Any form that you check and then you sign under perjury, you've contracted with them. And nobody can force you to contract with them. Even if you wanna remain a federal citizen, that doesn't mean that you have to file for taxes.
If you are not a, you know, he's using, I will tell you this, their definitions of a resident meaning in the geographical sense and their definitions of working for the federal government. But I I'm new to this, other thing. So I have to I'm trying to get a I'm trying to get a copy of a revocation of election that they send in to the, IRS. And once I get it, I'll let you know what it says. But, I just know that there are many people who have, needed mortgages like that guy from John John out of, I think it was Georgia, and they needed tax returns. And so they decided to file, for for loans that they needed. And, and then they decided again once they got the house not to file, and they've done that successfully. And these people are not even nationals. They're still federal citizens. They just use the revocation of election argument with the IRS.
[02:29:55] Unknown:
Okay. When you when you when you make your first when you file your first ten forty, you are making the election. And like I said, when the on the Radio Ranch, before I end it, it's a self renewing yearly contract. It self renews, and it will stay that way until you revoke it. And I think US citizens, I think Rogers mentioned many times, he doesn't understand how Wise Paris, for example, can get, you know, their students out of filing 10 forties. And it's it's because, 26 United States code sixty thirteen g g is was was put in place by Congress, and it's a means for, really, anyone to revoke the election.
But I think what keeps us more, secure in that decision is because we volunteered out of the feudal system. We we proved to the IRS IRS that we're not a US citizen and resident with our affidavit of citizenship citizenship evidence.
[02:31:05] Unknown:
Right. But I think but I think the point I think the point that Julie is trying to make is and it and it, buttresses your point is when you file a ten forty form, when you file the first ten forty form, you are entering into a self renewing adhesive contract, and you're agreeing to file periodic 10 forties for the rest of your life. Now when you do a revocation of election, that cancels that account. It closes it. But if you want to elect to file taxes again, if you file another ten forty form, you are entering into a new contract and creating a new account.
And you should be able to revoke that election as well because Correct. Yeah. Basically, what you're doing hasn't. You're starting over. You're starting over with a brand new contract. So the same rules would apply again and again and again and again and again. Yeah. You you have the right to self determination.
[02:32:17] Unknown:
You can, write in that you don't wanna be a national anymore if you don't want to. And then you can write, oh, I wanna be a national again. I don't want to be subject to your jurisdiction. I'll be subject to it. I don't. I will. And you can and those ten forty, IRS forms are all contractual documents. You're not they can't force you into contracting with them for the rest of your life. That's, that is fraud. That makes everything null and void. That's under duress. They don't make the rules like that because it's a it's contract law, commercial law.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
Well, I I mean, I agree. I'm just telling you what the, the flowchart
[02:32:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a flowchart. But the IRS I wouldn't rely on any flowcharts in in a, IRS room for these IRS agents to,
[02:33:00] Unknown:
rely upon. I think we need to rely on the Commercial. Okay. Let me correct let me just correct what I'm saying. I'm not relying on it, but they have to rely on it. Those are their own rules and policies. Kinda like, you know, when you go into the post office Yeah. And, and they say, oh, you can't film in here. Like, you're carrying a camera and you're filming because you're in a public space. Well, you know, their policy is maybe they can't, film in the post office because they're an employee there, but that's not for us. That's for them.
But if they're doing what they're supposed to do, they should be following their own rules. And when they get a revocation of election, their own rules say that it's a once in a lifetime, event. And, I know we've had, the, you know, John the farmer on our platform who claims he got back a substantial amount doing a revocation of election, but then he went back in. He he made the election again. Right. And, and so, you know, how how do you how do you explain that? Well, obviously, they're not following their own guidelines in that are outlined in their own rules. Well, no. I even worked told me to make of it, Josie. I really don't.
[02:34:15] Unknown:
The IRS will gladly take your money at any time at any point in time. They will gladly take that money. And, you know, I don't know. I'm just like I said, I'm I'm I'm relaying experiences of other people in another group that are not even nationals And we're and then they moved to a more expensive area and they needed a more and where and then they moved to a more expensive area and they needed a mortgage. They didn't have tax returns. So they rented and they, they rented and then they went back into the system, filed tax returns so they could get the mortgage. And then they filed a revocation of election again because they're older now. They're gonna retire, and they're not gonna need a mortgage again. So I'm this is just a couple that I heard their story about that I wanted to relay. I yield.
[02:35:10] Unknown:
You know, Roger has talked about the IRS before, and I don't know. You know? But he says to his knowledge, nobody has ever tried it. I have to look at a note. But he calls it that that the IRS regulations that are put out there were put out there as the interpretive regulations. So like the CDC and their mask mandates, they're only supposed to be applied internally to so to IRS employees.
[02:35:44] Unknown:
The only problem is the flowchart the the flowchart is made for IRS employees or agents that are dealing with nonresident alien individuals. It's a it's a teaching chart telling them how they go about, responding to them and correcting, you know, whatever data is in is in the computer is is in the computer informational database.
[02:36:11] Unknown:
Yeah. My only argument to that is that no and and with using the Chevron deference case, that Lisa just brought up, which she indirectly brought up, nobody can force you to contract with them. Nobody can force you to sign a contract if you don't agree with the terms. And so you they cannot force you to file tax returns even if you wanna opt in and opt out so that you can get a mortgage on a home because most of those banks require a tax return in order to qualify you for a lower rate. And, yeah, I understand what Roger says that there's other lending institutions out there, but those are usually hard money lenders, and they charge a significant higher interest rate, sometimes double what the going market rate is. And with, you know, interest rates having gone up over the last, you know, four years or three years, whatever, this couple had to move to a more expensive area and needed a mortgage. So they were not they lived in the Midwest somewhere.
They had been not filing for many years, then they decided they took contract with the IRS so they could have one year. All they needed was one instead of two because they were putting down a substantial amount of money on their new home. And so they did this rent to own, with the seller. So they rented from the seller and then owned after they got, one year of tax returns filed. Soon as that was done, they filed a revocation of election, and they're not even nationals. They're federal citizens. They didn't do the affidavit of citizenship evidence, and so I'm just saying that I don't think that flowchart maybe they are required that the flowchart for their rules and regulations, but where does it say in the IRS code specifically that you once you make an election, file a revocation of election, you could never do that again because I think that would be fraud and null and void. That's just what I'm saying because then they were saying you have to contract with the IRS for the rest of your life.
Maybe that would still hold up in court, Larry, since we have nothing but lawlessness judges and lawlessness courts and lawlessness cases that, you know, like you said about the word income and Chris brought up, I don't have income, Yeah. Well, the IRS judges are ruling that, yeah, that is income, and it's not income according to their own definition, but we just have lawlessness. I yield.
[02:38:32] Unknown:
Yeah. We certainly have lawlessness. That's for sure.
[02:38:40] Unknown:
More hemp.
[02:38:45] Unknown:
Is somebody there? Hello?
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[02:39:17] Unknown:
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[02:39:18] Unknown:
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[02:39:34] Unknown:
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[02:39:37] Unknown:
We have a lot of jalapenos or No.
[02:39:42] Unknown:
Buenas nachos is good nachos. Bonus nachos is extra nachos.
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Okay.
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Nachos.
[02:39:55] Unknown:
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[02:40:00] Unknown:
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[02:40:12] Unknown:
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[02:40:17] Unknown:
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[02:40:38] Unknown:
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[02:40:41] Unknown:
Bottle. Not in call. It's got an echo.
[02:40:47] Unknown:
Not there. Can anybody hear me?
[02:40:51] Unknown:
Yes. Hang on a minute. Yes. Sir, are you the one looking for me?
[02:40:58] Unknown:
No. Name's David.
[02:41:00] Unknown:
David? Well, hello, David.
[02:41:03] Unknown:
Yes. Oh, I've been trying to for some reason, I just had trouble connection connecting. Today was a busy day. I was trying to get in, but, you know, it was it was pretty hectic. I I filed my app. I have a question for somebody that can answer me. I've I'm actually a long time listener. I've, you probably remember my my brother Gary from Tampa. I'm an old I know Brent's still there and Benders Murr and Mesa and all y'all are old timers. But I'm Gary's brother, and I filed my affidavit back in, August of of twenty one and, got real busy. Got to change my my job I had. They sent me to field, and I was in the field for a number couple years and went on disability then.
And, now now I've retired, at at the 65. I'm retired. And, now the IRS is coming back at me wanting wanting my wanting me to file saying I haven't filed for tax year '21, '22, '23, or '24, and they're needing you know, they're hounding. I'm getting pounded with these. So I haven't filed for all those years, and now they're coming back with, you know, with threatening letters of, you know, how it is.
[02:42:39] Unknown:
But Did when when you filed your affidavit in '21, did you put the IRS on notice?
[02:42:46] Unknown:
Yes. I did. I put I put everything on notice. I did I did everything by the book. I got my return receipts. I had I even had my brother witness, and I got a he he filled out an affidavit saying he witnessed me put it put it all together and draw get it get it notarized and drop it in the mailbox. Everything was by I sent it in with my passport, never heard anything. I put the IRS on notice. I put my county sheriff's office on notice.
[02:43:16] Unknown:
I did I went every I went every Okay. Okay. We're we're talking specifically about the IRS now. So, you put them on notice. You sent them a copy of your affidavit, declaring yourself a nonresident alien individual. So if you have a copy of that affidavit and copy of the evidence of mailing and receipt by their office, just send them a letter back. You have to answer every letter they send to you because if they send you a letter, claiming that you're a taxpayer by, by addressing you as dear taxpayer, which they love doing that because that becomes a rebuttable presumption. If you don't rebut it, then that presumption becomes fact.
And and that's just one of the tricks they love to do. So, just write them a letter back saying, please note the enclosed, affidavit of citizenship evidence as well as the proof of service, in, such and such date, 2021. I am a nonresident alien individual and, therefore, am only responsible for paying eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b taxes, which I have none, which I have no applicable income. Okay. Was it 71 b and eight seventy seven b? Eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b. Eight seventy one b is any, income that you received as being an employee of the federal government or like an annuity or like a dividend from something that is guaranteed by the federal government like a railroad, like railroad stocks and shit like that.
And then the other one is an expatriation tax.
[02:45:12] Unknown:
Paul, Marcus says that eight seventy one, b is for all US source based income. We gotta figure what that is. So that would include Social Security, is my understanding, US source. No. It wouldn't. Okay. I've got to figure that out because he also said if you invest in any individual stocks, we're not talking about mutual funds here, or four zero one ks's or IRAs. But if you if you invest in any individual stocks, let's say you have an account with Fidelity and you go and buy some shares of Microsoft. If you have a capital gain on that or you receive dividend income from that, that is considered taxable income under eight seventy one b. I have not verified that. That is just what I have heard. So ideal.
[02:45:55] Unknown:
Okay. Well, if he doesn't have any of those things, what he's gotta do is he's gotta answer their confirmatory writing. First of all, rebutting the fact that he is not a taxpayer. He is a nonresident alien individual and, that they have already been put on notice of his political status. Please correct your records and your agents records, immediately because any subsequent communication will be accompanied by a bill for $5,000 for drafting any return correspondence. Your quick, your prompt attention to this matter is appreciated. Here's to never hearing from you again.
Hugs and kisses, so and so. Mhmm. Whatever. You just send a letter back to them, and and you can actually make photocopies of that letter. And if they send you another one, just send them the same information back, but add a bill, a statement for $5,000 for services rendered, in response to a frivolous communication. Then let him send you a check.
[02:47:26] Unknown:
Little rat. Is this on matrix? Is there is there something like this, on the matrix box?
[02:47:33] Unknown:
No. Okay. No. But my explanation of that will be on the transcript on the archive for the program, which you can find by going to radio.globalvoiceradio.net, or you can go to our website, thematrixstocks.com, and click on Radio Ranch archives, right on the right on the top of the page. And then just go to this episode, the Saboteau edition, and, and just look at the transcript. Like, two hours and forty minutes into the program.
[02:48:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. It includes this too then. Okay.
[02:48:17] Unknown:
Yeah. It will include this too. Our stream is still up and, AI is still diligently, recording every word we say. Yeah. Joe, how's that for creepy?
[02:48:31] Unknown:
Yeah. It is.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Big big brother's watching.
[02:48:35] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes, Sketch.
[02:48:38] Unknown:
He could, personalize Al Addict's, what is it, 66 questions and and include that.
[02:48:45] Unknown:
That's how Yeah. You could do that too. You could set up, like, on the matrix docs down in the download section, near the bottom of the download section, there is Aladask's 66 questions sent to the IRS. You can send them back and then give them twenty one days to respond to those questions. Or, your lack of response will be considered acquiescence and that this, matter is concluded. You just go ahead and put that time bomb in there. Yeah. Sixty sixty six uncomfortable questions that they have to answer if they wanna send an email to you or send a message to you again or another letter. Good. No.
Aladette them to work. 66 questions. Okay. Yeah. Just just read through, and those are fun. Those are fun.
[02:49:45] Unknown:
Just I would probably personalize it, though. Take out Al's name. Oh, yeah. For sure.
[02:49:52] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to recreate that document, but, or you just cherry pick the the most tasty questions that you want answers to. You know? Mhmm. Just put them in your response. Okay. That's it. Boy, I am so glad I didn't take the take the stream down forty five minutes ago like I was gonna.
[02:50:14] Unknown:
He? Oh, yeah. My my brother's gonna start tuning back in. He's got his CDL, and he's gonna, be home. So we'll start hearing from him again.
[02:50:26] Unknown:
Cool.
[02:50:27] Unknown:
And and us, both of us.
[02:50:30] Unknown:
Mhmm. Oh, alright. Yeah. I I have a CDL. I don't use it, but I had it just in case I need it.
[02:50:40] Unknown:
Oh, you went and took the course and everything and did the whole meal deal.
[02:50:53] Unknown:
I've I've had a CDL for twenty years. You didn't have to go through any of that bullshit when I had mine. That's why that's why I refused to let go of it because there's no way I could get it again, once it it lapses. So, so I'm just I don't allow it to lapse. I, I pay the $150 every time I need to renew it just to Yeah. Just to keep it. I did have, at one time, I had a bunch of endorsements, but Minnesota, when, when they renewed it once, they dropped the endorsements and I would have to go and apply for the endorsements again. But I had tanker, doubles and triples, I had hazmat, I had passenger.
I had every endorsement but motorcycle. So, oh, well, at one time, I could drive anything, anything with more than two wheels.
[02:52:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I had my my bike license, but I I just quit riding. Didn't feel comfortable on it anymore. It's crazy. All the crazies out there now. Oh, yeah. Kids on self consume.
[02:52:18] Unknown:
Well, I think it would be fun. But I would I would do the, three wheeler thing. I would do the Can Am just because they're big enough. They perform kinda like a motorcycle, but they're big enough to actually be seen. You know? Mhmm.
[02:52:40] Unknown:
Seen and heard.
[02:52:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Seen and
[02:52:45] Unknown:
heard.
[02:52:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've seen the bumper stickers. Loud pipes save lives. Yeah. Yep. Alright. So if we don't have anything more on the taxes or whatever, I suppose I could take the stream down and start processing the archive. Anybody got anybody, have anything else to add today? It's easy for me to say. Right? K. Well, then in the immortal acquiescence agreement, That's it for the radio's ranch with Roger Sales, the seven o edition for, Saturday, 11/01/2025. Boy, how many people actually thought we were gonna make it to this point in the calendar when the with the way the year started or with the way the last three or four years started for that matter. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. We're on eurofoakradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network. We're on Rumble, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net.
We're all over the place. Check out our website, thematrixdocs.com, for more information on how to obtain and defend your freedom. Thanks for joining us. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:54:30] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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