In this engaging episode of the Radio Ranch Sabado edition, host Roger Sayles navigates a lively discussion with new guest Austin, a metals dealer from Santa Monica. The conversation delves into the intricacies of U.S. citizenship, the implications of the 14th Amendment, and the concept of voluntary servitude. Roger passionately explains the historical context and legal nuances that underpin the current system, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's legal status and the potential for reclaiming personal sovereignty. The episode also touches on the broader implications of these legal frameworks, including their impact on taxation and personal freedom.
Throughout the episode, Roger and his guests explore various historical and legal references, including the significance of the 1933 bank holiday, the role of the Federal Reserve, and the concept of jurisdiction. The discussion is enriched by contributions from regular listeners and participants, who share insights and personal experiences related to the topics at hand. The episode concludes with a reflection on the broader socio-political landscape, including recent developments in the Epstein case and its potential impact on political figures. This episode is a thought-provoking exploration of legal status, personal freedom, and the power dynamics within the U.S. legal system.
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I know you're connected. Hello, Rog. Okay. Good morning. Welcome to the Radio Ranch Sabado edition for, Saturday, 07/12/2025. Roger just joined us a few minutes ago and giving him an opportunity to, get his morning coffee together and whatever, fruity veggie drink that he starts his day off with. In the meanwhile, we have a number of platforms that help us, support what we do. Here he is eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Euro Folk Radio covers, broadcast Monday through Saturday, all six days in both hours. We have Global Voice Radio Network, which also does Monday through Saturday, both hours, plus after show.
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Morning, Paul.
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Good morning, Rick. Hi, Paul. Good morning, Paul. Morning, everybody. Hi, Joe. Joe, I've got a I got a a document. I don't know if Sheldon's with us this morning, but I've got a book that, that, you might be interested in. It's, magnesium batteries. Talks about, like, the electrolyte solutions, the the anode and cathode materials, and stuff like that. Sheldon was talking about that. He'd taken a lead acid battery and converted it to a magnesium battery. That would be interesting. Very much so. I've been reading it this morning. You know? Kind of fun.
Let's see. Roger's still not unmuted. Okay. We'll, we'll get this we'll get this show on the road. The Thursday Paul English live show is very interesting. It was fun. You can find that on Global Voice Network on the archive list on Podom. And, also, the Friday edition of the Radio Ranch with, Roger Sales and Brent Winters, That was an awesome show yesterday. If you if you didn't catch it, the archive is there. There were a couple of missing archives through the week. They were, they were ones that fell through the cracks, and, I was able to, pull them out of history recordings and then upload those.
So, Mike, if you're with us, all episodes should be available. And, fully prim proper and all that happy stuff. I normally, we have, Mark
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There's and the straw man joining us on Saturdays. Morning.
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Mark's here.
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Yeah. Mark just showed up a minute ago. He's probably still listening to the entry recording. And Roger's still muted. Oh, okay. Oh, that's fine. First time that's ever happened, but then again, he only connected to Zoom, oh, about three minutes before showtime. He normally does that thinking he's got time to get ready. Morning, Mark. Good to see you joined us. Morning, Paul. Check. Check. Check. How's my microphone? Hey. You sound way better than average. Alright. Good. You you sound fine. Just to let everybody know, we have on a couple occasions I have on a couple of occasions forgotten to hit the right buttons, just because the way I had audio routing. Well, I changed that routing.
Roger is listening directly to the conference room, so there's minimal delay. Should make communication smoother, but I listen to the conference room over the feed that goes out over the broadcast. So if I can't hear you guys, I know to click a right button and turn it back on. So, we haven't we haven't had any any technical trousers, snafus, hiccups, or otherwise, misadventures in in quite a while. So at least that worked. How are you doing today, Mark?
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I'm doing pretty good. It's been, last, what, up until Thursday was a blaze. Or, actually, till Friday morning was busy busy as you well know.
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Uh-huh. But I I hear that was awesome. I hear it was successful. Yeah. It was,
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We'll have to leave it at that. Yep. But, you know, inside little inside baseball going on. So, anyway, good to be here. And, hopefully, Roger will get connected with us soon. So but, yeah, it's been really interesting, especially in our our trust classes, and I'm excited about, you know, joining, Brent's trust classes. Mhmm. Because like I was telling everybody, I mean, one, you can't be what was it? $30? And then two, you just never know what kind of little nuggets you might learn, you know. And I was sharing, you know, previously that, although I know a lot about court jurisdiction, and the last appeal that my research and writing won was on jurisdiction in Texas.
So I know a little bit about jurisdiction. But one thing that I always kinda got confused until our our friend Charlie, who used to be on the show, about a year ago or so, she we were talking about jurisdiction and she said she had a professor tell her that it was like taking all the different jurisdictions except for military and throwing it in the a blender and whatever comes out of that is what you get. Now that wasn't real super helpful until Brent said, basically, the same way in a different way or same thing in a different way. He said, it depends on what you get out of the court.
And and I think he further expanded if I recall correctly. It's it's really the facts of the case. See, I was under the false impression, now this is wrong, okay, but I was under the false impression that you could only get one jurisdiction at a time in court. Like, the whole court proceedings could only go, like, under common law. That's what I was after. But that's not true. You have different blends of law inside there. I'll give you an example. If you look at equity, equity law, which is actually what every court in The United States you go into any court, and it's presumed to be operating under equity unless, a party pushes for a different type of jurisdiction and the facts support like let's give an example, maritime law. So if you're out here doing, like, this deep sea fishing, and you're out on a boat, you're under maritime law.
Well, they don't have courts out there in the deep sea. So if there's any kind of legal issue when you get back to land, you go to a court and you have to invoke that the facts line up with maritime law. And the judge would have to make a ruling under maritime law. But in most Subject matter. Most instances
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pardon me? Subject matter. Depends on the subject matter. Exactly.
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Exactly. So if, if you, but if you're in a typical courtroom environment with the typical stuff, like typical lawsuits, usually, it's for some type of damage or money, then you're walking into a court that's presumed right up front to be a court of equity. And most people don't understand that. I'll give you an example that that equity could come into play and it's people are starting to pick up on it is in, foreclosures. So there's been some court rulings where people who've had a larger interest, and this also includes tax, property taxes have been forwarded, from a property sale, a tax sale, because the homeowner has a much larger interest in the equity of the property that's involved in the lawsuit than does the other party, the creditor, who's trying to foreclose on the property.
So let's say a property had $220,000 or was as valued at 220,000. Excuse me. And the debt that was being, you know, pursued was, say, $20,000. Well, the the the creditor doesn't have as much interest in the property, and there's a maximum of law in equity, and you'll you'll ever want you'll usually see it, in law books. It'll say, maximum of equity, and you'll have all these different maximums of law. One maximum of law we talked about, you cannot prove a negative. That's been a very long standing of law that I can't ask you to prove something that is not. That's an impossibility. So the burden shifts back to the party who's alleging that negative fact. It's it's based it's upon them to prove it.
So, in this instance, the maximum law is equity cannot do any harm without a remedy. In other words, you can't harm the party that has the largest interest. And there's some cases that are coming out. So, really, if you got a piece of property, you got a large amount of equity, way more than the little property tax they're asking for, they shouldn't be able to hold a foreclosure sale or a tax sale on that property. So that's pretty pretty fascinating area of law that I'm I'm, you know, discovering. This has been around for a long time, but very few people, I would say even attorneys, don't know that they're walking into a court of equity.
But that's supposed to be what's what's fair and equitable, and it's totally up to the judge's decision.
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So, anyway, pretty pretty interesting stuff. Thank you, Mark. So are you still trying to join us? No. I'm here. I I I guess I looked at my clock, my little cell phone thing, and I must have thought it said thirty eight, and I must have been fifty eight because I was in mixing a drink and stuff and came back when you were talking. So sorry.
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But, glad you're there, Mark. To go. Where's Roger?
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Yeah. Right. Well, thank you for, picking up the ball and dribbling there, Mark. Morning, Paul. You bet. Morning, audience. Good morning. I don't know if you know this or not, but I have,
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I have, some depressing news. And I believe the date was the July 7. Diana Spingola left us.
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Oh, I'm so sorry. So sorry. Deanna was, I did several interviews with her. John and Glenn, did an interview with her. If y'all wanna go back in our archives and try and find something from John and Glenn years ago, they did an interview with her on the tax stuff, and, she was a great valiant warrior. I do you do you do you feminize that? Warrior. And, her husband never, to my knowledge, got on board. And, but she pioneered and and plowed forward and wrote books and investigated all this, and she was just a hell of a gal. I'm sure sorry to hear that. Paul, you're right. It is depressing. A gal that was in the, knitting business, if you don't know her background The knitting business? In the knitting or some kind of fabric business, and that's where she stumbled on. Styles. Okay. Thank you. Textiles. Textiles.
And stumbled on the, effects of these people in their control of that industry and started asking questions. And like a true truth seeker, ended up, well, probably almost giving everything away, including her health. And, I'm sorry to hear it eventually caught up with her. That's, that's bad news. But God bless you, Deanna, for the warrior that you were and the things that you contributed on this exposure of these monsters. They're just freaking monsters. They've been that way for over two thousand years, Mark. I'm gonna I haven't sent it to you yet. I got a Cody sent me, you know, one of those little squares so they got the guy's picture and the saying next to it. I I sent you a Cicero.
It's a hundred years before they crucified Christ talking about him. K? Yeah. So yep. Incredible. And they have gone to great lengths to hide and have, these little triggers like like you heard Eric on here. We had one of our local Jewish guys came on and tried to do a debate about this. And listen. You're not you're not gonna win any debate about this with me. I know too much. I know more about your freaking role your quote, unquote religion and your activities than you do. K? So, and I think, Paul, I we were having that discussion with Eric, and the last question I heard the other day was, do you believe in the holocaust? And I said, no. Not at all.
And, at least not in the way it's presented. And then we, I did the little, it's a trick. We always use it in my little, my little Jewish invitation voice, but damned if you didn't have it on file there and pulled it out and played it for us. Thank you very much. And I I would imagine that, that Eric probably left about that time. See, they can't win. But, boy, they'll keep trying just like that quote that that, Murr put out the Hitler, Hitler about trying to talk with them same way still. So anyway, that happened this week. I don't know how much you know about that, Mark, but Jack, my old friend, Jack, of thirty two plus years, kicked me out of the, Tuesday lunch group for talking about the Jews. Three or four other people Yeah.
Nagging him, you know, baby baby. They're like the hyenas and jackals that they are, and, Jack succumbed to it. I was, very disappointed.
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So, anyway People don't understand, Roger, that, you know, there's there's and the Bible calls it the wheat and the tares. Yes. That's what I told you. Going on. That's what I accused him. I said, hey, Eric. You're you're they're God's coming down to take the terrors. That's what I told him the other day. Right. Right. But people don't understand that verse. But No. Or that scripture because it talks about where an enemy came in and basically sowed weeds in somebody's wheat field. Yeah. And the wheat field is talking about the wheat is referred to or is referring to the Hebrew Israelites, the apple of God's eye, his chosen people.
The weeds are some other group. Right? Some other group. And and we have our, you know, opinions on who they are. But when it was in the parable, it was like, well, does the farmer go out and just, you know, burn down his field? Well, no. He can't because he loses the wheat. And we're in that same dichotomy right now. We've got we've got true Hebrew Israelite, the apple of God's eye, and then we got some group that I, in my opinion and I'm I'm not the most studied person on it. And it took me a long while to come around and realize what was going on. But and it it lines up biblically. That's all I can say. Oh, boy does. You got a group that's come in and co opted that, and they've they've pushed this name out on everything as Jewish.
And so and then they incorporated that into the Christian community. And now the way I hear it is people refer to them as Zionist. What was interesting when the Palestinian protests were going on here in The United States, They had some Palestinian students here in Oklahoma City, and they got on television, and, the girl that was doing the speaking for the little group, they she said, we're not anti Semitic. We're anti Zionist. And she said it twice. I was like, wow, she gets it. She knows what she's talking about. So anyway, I, you know, I just asked everybody to put down their stones.
Everybody's got a different opinion. And if if you have a different opinion, that's okay. You know, I still love you. You know, you might do a little bit more investigation. But just realize you got God's people that's been co opted. You got we got real Hebrew Israelites and then we got fake Jews. And the Bible talks about fake Jews. And so again, put down your stones. You know, we're here to talk about the national status and daily events and things like that. And especially on Saturday, that's when we want students who aren't able to make the the program during the week live, maybe because they're at work. Now they can come on and ask a question about the national status and how it might relate to everyday life, including trust.
I cover that in our in our teaching, Roger, where there's certain certain situations, especially when it's involving taxation, that being a national is really advantageous, especially in a trust because there's no taxation when property gets transferred to a party. So lot of benefits from that. And, our students, one, Jack from Colorado, and then a couple other has some interesting situations involving LLCs and, you know, how to handle the tax stuff on that. So that's it's always a fun discussion, and it, you know, helps expand my brain a little bit. So, anyway, that's, you know go ahead, Paul.
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My question is, what is the fundamental difference between a trust and the ability for a trust to transfer property and a simple survivorship clause on a deed and the automatic transfer from one person to another on the person's passing?
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Sure. Now the survivorship clause on a deed, like real estate, unless a surviving spouse fills that out in advance, it's just gonna go to the estate. Right? And so the the interested parties in the estate show up. And usually, that surviving survivorship clause is a surviving spouse. And so the surviving spouse would, go to the the county court clerk's office and and their land records and present their death certificate of their spouse and whatever information they need, and then they'll transfer the deed into that surviving spouse's name. Now an LLC, it can transfer excuse me. A trust can transfer property into another trust.
If if a trust document gives the trustee authority to create trust in the name of that trust, it can do it. So you could have a trust. Now I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend doing that like it. It's funny that you asked that because our friend, Julie, had had a similar question, based on a real life experience where the parents left, had a family trust that become irrevocable upon the surviving spouse's death, which is usually the the wife. And then they had two siblings. And one sibling was, at the time of her death, he was the successor trustee and he became the the trustee and one of the two beneficiaries, if that makes sense. So you get the trustee who has to execute the trust according to what's written in the trust to the best of their ability and in the fiduciary responsibility of of the benefit of the beneficiaries.
So if the trust doesn't specifically cover something or an odd situation shows up, the trustee is supposed to handle that in the best interest of the beneficiaries. Okay. In this instance, you got one of the trustees is also one of the of the two beneficiaries. So now the trust instructions are to create for the trust to create two trusts, equally divide up all the property and half goes into one trust and half goes in the other. Right? So it would have been a lot better if instead of doing it that way, in my opinion, when this was a a trust that would have been set up by an attorney, I it would have been simpler had the when the the parents set up the original trust, if they wanna went ahead and just created two more trust and put their their kids as the beneficiary. So you can have a trust, and you can have anything to be a beneficiary.
Could be a church, could be your children, could be an LLC, could be a corporation, and could even be another trust. So in this particular scenario, we got one sibling fighting. Of course, there are the non trustee siblings fighting that that that's not the way the trust is written. Now check this out. The attorney's dead, and the paralegal is gone. And there's no more office for them to go back and go, well, how did you mean for this to be done? Right? And that's why they try to make these trusts so complicated pages and pages and pages so that they know that when the surviving family members, the estate gets the trust, they're like, Oh, Oh, I need an attorney. And what are they going to do? They're going to look down on the paper and the the attorney's information is going to be in the footer on every page. So who do you think they're going to call?
They're going to call the attorney who wrote the trust. And guess what? He's gonna charge them money by the hour. So it's a built in income stream, the way they got this set up. So, anyway, did that answer all your questions, Paul?
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Yeah. It did. And you can't beat repeat business, can you? No. It's like stapling your business card to the paperwork. Well, that's how you build a business. That's how you build a business is repeat business.
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Yeah. And and the other thing too, attorneys used to I don't know what they do today, but used to as common practice, they would practically give away a will. If you wanted to do a will, no problem. $50. And then they charge your estate, you know, $250 an hour to represent them in probate court. And on that will, guess what? It's gonna have that attorney's name and phone number and address all over everything at the foot of every every document will be his contact information because he knows your state's gonna come back and go, oh, well, you know, mom had this will drawn up by this attorney, so let's use them.
That's just common practice.
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Yep. If you don't do a trust and you've got property, you you might reconsider. Mark. Well, there's Julie. Good morning, Julie. How are you? All the all the crew here. Before you launch off, let me just say I was a little bit late here this morning. So at least as Mark said, I wanna cover it. The the Saturday show particularly is for new students, and so I don't know if Yeah. I have a new student for you today. Oh, fantastic.
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How exciting. Yes. But I Go ahead. I don't know if he's on. Austin, are you on?
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Austin might not have made him.
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He would be on. You have to hit 6, Austin.
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six. Well, Austin may just wanna listen for a little bit. He is this guy you told me about in the email? The the the metals guy that you caught? Thank you, Julia. Yes. Star six. Oh, yay. Austin. Alright. Welcome, Austin. Alright. Well, Austin, my name is Roger Sales. I run the, Radio Ranch here and have pioneered all this stuff. So welcome on your Saturday, and we're mighty glad to have you. Yeah.
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Yay, Austin. I'm so happy you're on. So, Roger, I just have to preface this. Yesterday, you know, Austin is in the metals business for anybody. You know how much Roger is promoted getting gold and silver. So, Austin called me up yesterday, and we had a great, we had a great, conversation. And I said, hey. By the way, do you pay taxes? And he said, yeah. Why why wouldn't I? I said, you need to get on Roger's show. So I red pill them, and I said, you need to come on tomorrow on Saturday because we love new students. And so I'm just gonna let you talk to Austin, Roger, and I'll just mute myself.
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Okay, Austin. As I said, I've been in this thirty three years this month, I think. I was fortunate enough in the six months that they were teaching the tax stuff, my two mentors, teachers. I was fortunate enough to cross paths with them back in 1992. I never had a tax problem. I just had I knew something was wrong, and I never knew what it was. And so it was crossing paths with them that put me on this path. And my law teacher particularly was an extremely, excellent legal guy because he had studied the law his whole adult life, but not in law school. And he would go back to the old authors and the old law.
And what we found is they've covered that up in our law schools. Okay? And I can give you a number of examples. But, anyway, that's where I came from, and then they got raided by IRS, six months into teaching back in 1992 now. The federal government doesn't act that quick on anything. And so they, raided all through their offices with glocks at their heads and ended up sending them to federal prison for about fifteen and a half years, nine and a half on one and six on the other. And, so, not on any tax charges, just on to get them off the street. K? I think they had 90 charges against one of my teachers, Glenn Ambor, who's still alive, actually.
So, anyway, that's where I became associated with this, and it was the tax question or part of it that kept driving me for all these years. And now after thirty years, I finally understand why. And the tax system is the Achilles heel of their entire system because they create the credit initially. You know, you've heard there's no money. There's only credit, Austin.
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I have not heard that.
[00:31:05] Unknown:
You've never heard that? Well, there is no money. There's only credit. We're in a debt Well, I'll I'll tell you what. I believe it. Okay. Well, yeah, because you all you're the alter ego. You sell the opposite. You sell Austrian. We're in Kinsey. Okay. And, like, I've got this little trick that I developed years ago and I carry a $19.95 silver dollar with me. No. I don't now. I used to, which makes it look very used. You know? And so, and then I'd have a dollar bill. My wife had a very, very popular consignment store she owned in North Atlanta. It was the second or third most popular consignment store in the whole city of Atlanta.
And she had a lot of she's a very devout Christian, had a lot of Christian gal friends and stuff. And so, I would mainly do this in in her store a lot. I'd be in the store for some reason and one of their friends and they go, Roger, Roger, come show them your trick. So what I do, Austin, is take the silver dollar on on a metal preferably a metal surface because it rings out so nice, and you know this. You're in the metals business. You flip that thing and let it spin, and as it settles out, there's there's just no sound like that in the world, really.
And, so they pick it up, and they go, wow. I bet this is old. And I say, well, what's the date on it? Go 1995. I say, what's, what is it in big letters on the front in God We Trust? What I can't remember what else is on the front, but on the back, it says one ounce fine silver, $1, United States Of America. So the best thing is to get them holding that in their one of their hands. And then you hand them a dollar bill, and you go, well, what does it say? You've seen a few of these before. Yeah. What's it say in big letters on the front? Some folks will pick up Federal Reserve note. Most won't.
And and because I emphasize big letters. You know? United States Of America, $1. So I go, well, they both say United States Of America, and they both say $1. Correct? I go, yeah. They got them in each hand now. Correct. And, and you go, and you gotta take my word from it for that they come both come from the treasury and the the mint mint department department of minutes. And they go, okay. And then back then when I started this, I would say, why does it take seven of these dollars to buy one of these dollars? And they're sitting there with both of them in their hands, and they're presented with the dialectic right there. And I've seen my mother, particularly when she was alive and I showed her this, I saw the her eyes roll into the back of her hand.
Okay? And so today, when I use that, and I've used it a little bit recently in the situation I'm in down here in Ecuador. And, I, I say, why does it take 45 of these dollars to buy one of these dollars? So what you're confronted with is the Austrian system and the Kinsey and system. Head up. And you if you play with that and practice it, you'll you'll freak people out, man, because they have no idea of this discrepancy and disparity. So, anyway, that's one way to illustrate the purpose. Where do we start? Let me let me go back and start, Austin, with you, and you can get this information on the website. I did a, probably, one of the better interviews I've ever done with, Badass Uncle Sam. Do you know who Badass Uncle Sam is?
[00:34:30] Unknown:
I have not heard of Badass. I mean, Uncle Sam. Yes. Badass uncle Sam unfamiliar.
[00:34:35] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he's a guy, older guy down in New Orleans, and he takes a cart with all kinds of freedom stuff, pamphlets, and he goes down by the market in the French Quarter dressed up in some kind of Uncle Sam outfit and just talks to people on the street. K? He's, he's on Band. Video. There he's one of the although on the fringe, one of the, InfoWars guys. He's got his own channel over there. He heard me, and he wanted to do an interview. And that that's what I'm gonna suggest if you go back and wanna listen to this, which I'm pretty sure you probably will. You that's the one I'd suggest to listen to. Now the reason that one's so important, there's a number of good ones on there.
John b Wells and the gal that Paul alluded to, Diana Spingola that just recently passed. There's a real good interview with her a couple years ago, and some others, Tom Dee, who may or may not be with us today that runs RBN. And he'd been he'd been messing with this stuff for forty years. Okay? And when he finally people kept urging us. Hey. Listen to Roger. Listen to Roger. So finally, I got his attention, and and he said, I've been looking for this for forty years. I've got the answer that the whole patriot community is looking for. K? On how here's the question. How does that unelected bureaucrat over there, some agency, how does he have the power to take existing legislation, re, reconfigure it to his his perceptions, and then put it out in the form of regulation and attach that and enforce it on me.
What gives him that power? That's the question, really. K? So without jumping right into that, I'm gonna tell you that it's very confusing because of the way they've set it up. Austin, how how old are you? I'm 32. Oh, man. So wonderful. I'm just so grateful. Julie, thank you so much. Austin, where do you live? What part of the country?
[00:36:38] Unknown:
So I'm over here in, Santa Monica, which is the West part of, Los Angeles.
[00:36:44] Unknown:
Okay. So you're out there on the Left Coast. Okay. I'm not gonna ask you. Hey. If you wanna plug your company if you wanna plug your company, I'll I'll be happy to let you do that here, okay, for our audience. But let's get into this a little bit. When was the first time you remember seeing Alice in Wonderland?
[00:37:04] Unknown:
Oh, I I feel like every other kid growing up on Disney in the nineties.
[00:37:08] Unknown:
So I'd say mid nineties, maybe late nineties. I believe it came out in the sixties. I it was one of their first ones. Right? Oh, well, Disney? Well, the story's been around for some time, but, yeah, I guess. I don't know the history. I thought it was earlier than that. But Alice in Wonderland has everything in it that our current situation is based on. Okay? Let me, go into a little bit of background on there's a guy, a professor pardon me? You you need sleep?
[00:37:39] Unknown:
Just saying a deep sleep. Oh, boy. No. No. No. No. The the the story of Alice in Wonderland just
[00:37:47] Unknown:
sorry. I I didn't mean to interrupt. Well, that's okay. I'm gonna just tell you what you're not seeing there. The original working title of Alice in Wonderland was through the looking glass, looking glass being a mirror. Right? So if you're through the looking glass on the opposite side, everything would be opposites, wouldn't it? Yes. Okay. Well, that's what's going on. It's that simple, really. That's why people say, well, that's exactly the opposite of what's going on. That's because of this. Okay? And, so, the idea was was written by a guy named Lewis Carroll. That's his pen name. I don't remember his name. He had two daughters.
And he lived pretty close to Oxford evidently because his best friend, was a a guy named Russ Ruskin, John Ruskin. You probably never heard his name. He also, was the teacher that taught a guy named Cecil Rhodes, and taught him about a plan to try and take over the world and install the English empire back to its former glory. Now he would go over once a week to Lewis Carroll's house and teach his daughters watercoloring. Well, no doubt he stayed around and had tea with, with their dad. So, if you go into, into Alice in Wonderland, I'm gonna give you a couple of quotes out of there. Okay?
And I'm gonna tell you what they're doing. Alice, at the first of the movie, if you look at the Disney one, she's being tutored by her teacher down at the bottom of a sloping green hill. And at the top, there's a big tree with a little branch parallel big branch parallel to the ground. And, she daydreams like many students do, and she daydreams herself up onto that branch. And she's got her cat with her. And the dialogue goes like this. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be.
You see? K. Now let's go back over that slower. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is, the illusion, because everything would be what it isn't, the reality. And then what it is, the illusion, it wouldn't be. You see? Now you see it probably a little bit better. I'm gonna tell you how they're doing this in just a second. Humpty Dumpty and in a dialogue with Alice later on in the movie Mhmm. And he says let me take a little poetic liberty here. When I use, the word resident, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I say it means, no more, no less.
But the question is, said Alice, how can you make the word resident mean so many different things? The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who's to be master? That's all. It's a political document, and they're telling you the what their plan is in there, and they totally base it on opposites. Now you can go look this up. You can go look this up on the Internet and put in lady Rothschild's costume ball. It was back in the eighties or something. The Rothschilds had a costume ball and and, shows pictures of their gaudy outfits and eating pies made in the shape of humans and stuff like that.
And, at in one of the articles in the first paragraph, it says, lady Rothschild was so clever. She wrote the invitations backwards, so you'd have to look at them in a mirror. Opposites. Opposites. Opposites. Everything's opposite. It's really important because their whole game plan this is the foundation. This is why everything seems opposite because it is, and it's done to fool you. Okay? Now what are they doing and how are they doing it? The, thanks to a listener. The, name of what they're doing, if you wanna go look it up, is called equivocation.
Equivocation. You know, when you say you're equivocating between three or four different options for a question, you can't make up your mind? Well, that's equivocating. This is equivocation, and they always do it in the exact same way. And it take whatever the the the word is, and they go and get a 180 degree opposite definition. That's really important. It's always totally in the opposite direction. K? And so this is a tool for us now that we know what they're doing is you go and and use this formula to undo it. It's real simple. K? And I'll show you show you what they're doing. They're taking keywords, and they're assigning opposite definitions to them.
And with very sophisticated Pavlovian conditioning, condition response, they implant the opposite definition in your subconscious. Now the biblical route to this is James one eight, and it says a double minded man is uncertain in all, not some, not part, all of his ways. A double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways, and that's what they've done. They've made us all double minded. We're all carrying opposite definitions. Your sub your conscious at 10% of your consciousness may recognize it, but your subconscious with this implanted in it, 90% overrides it. That's why people have some sort of a you know, they don't know it. They're not aware of it, but there's just confusion of the mind. Alright?
So what you do is you find these words, sis United States resident. Oh, here's a good one right up your alley. Hey, money. You ever talk about money, Austin? Yeah. Do you call it money or do you call it debt, what it is? How can money positive go and silver what you sell? How can it be debt? How can it be debt? Yet we call it money. You say? I do. It depends on the conversation, but I know where you're headed. Okay. So that's what I'm telling you. I'm giving you a little bit of a paving so that when I tell you what they've done, you'll understand it better. You won't be as confused. Because what I'm gonna do with you, if you and I continue the conversation, which you're here and I figure we will, is is I'm gonna turn your world from being upside down.
I'm gonna turn it to being right side up. Now because you're in an illusion. We've all lived in illusion. We call these were we call debt money, and we say we're free. Well, those are the two principles their whole illusion's based on. Okay? So, so, anyway, that's the part mainly, I guess, about I think I covered most of it about the, the Wizard of Oz and how they've done this or Alice in Wonderland, I mean, and how they've done this because now you know what they've done. Now I'm gonna show you how and how they've done it. Okay? So, Austin, let me ask you a couple of questions, if I could. You've been asked them all your life. Okay?
And if you would, and I know you're an honest guy. You seem like a great guy, a young guy. Are you do you consider yourself a truth seeker?
[00:45:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You know, it's really hard to turn a blind eye once you once you see, a lot of the things out there that have especially transpired here in the past five years. But Yeah. I'd say, you know, 2008 was a, or yeah, September 11 was a a pretty big eye opener. Yeah. And, kind of a I I was definitely a little too young to really kinda put the puzzle pieces together, but I did stumble upon a few videos, that seemed at that point, not really well done, but kind of having some friends, mention a few things, and then I kind of got a little bit more back into it. I think what they did to Bernie Sanders was really the eye opener, had him succeeding to, Hillary Clinton there for the, the Democratic nomination.
Mhmm. And at that point, it was just eyes wide open. COVID happened. Looking about a lot of, what do you call, reporters getting snatched in China. A lot of the links and nothing really made sense and really all the charades that followed it. So now it's full steam ahead and trying to just make sure I, don't stumble upon it in into anything that's
[00:46:42] Unknown:
not by my own doing. Well, I'm gonna try and keep you out of some of that stuff and and and and try and pull you out of the illusion and, you being the victim of this. Okay? So could I ask you, if you would answer these two questions the way you always have? And be honest. I know you're honest. I'm just asking you, and I I know you will be. Okay? So are you a citizen of The United States? Yeah. Are you a resident? I am.
[00:47:10] Unknown:
As far as I'm knowing.
[00:47:12] Unknown:
Okay. Notice they never ask you a resident. Normally, I would say yes, but I'm kind of like But now you're on now you're on thin ice. Right? Now. We're not going to bust your testicles. Did you notice that they never asked you, are you a resident of California? Do they, they just ask you if you're a resident and then underneath those two questions, which most people would be afraid to answer no, they ask you to sign something, don't they? They always want you to sign something. For for which party get up? Are you they ask two questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Answer yes or no. And so and then a signature. Oh, yes. Yes. Right? Mhmm. Okay. Well, unknowingly, you've been tricked.
And when you say yes, and I'm gonna illustrate that in just a second, what you've done is you've agreed to their fraudulent contract that you're in a condition of voluntary servitude. Now let me ask you those two questions. Well, let me just ask you this one. What is a citizen of The United States, Austin? You agreed that you are one. What is it? Oh,
[00:48:18] Unknown:
yeah. Good question, four.
[00:48:21] Unknown:
Okay. Well, let me I'm a help you. It's a it's a great question. Oh, yeah. It's an important question. Okay. Let me rephrase those questions. Okay? Are you a citizen of The United States? And I'll tell you exactly where this comes from, fourteenth amendment, first clause. Austin, are you in the same political status as former black slaves after the Civil War who were assigned federal citizenship with civil rights? Would you answer that question yes?
[00:48:49] Unknown:
I I would have to say yes.
[00:48:52] Unknown:
You are? Just just based off of what I know. Okay. Well, you Yeah. Well, listen. Whatever you are is your choice. You've got the power. That's one of the things I'm gonna show you. So if if you're adamant as I had a guy go, no. I'm a citizen United States. Well, hell, I'm not gonna argue with you if you wanna be a slave. If you wanna listen and see if that's what you are, let me ask you the same question I asked Austin here. Can you define the citizen of The United States? No. Well, look, we've got we've got a couple of the brothers on here with us, old friends of mine, but you don't sound very black to me, Austin. So this is a political question. And the question is, where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties? And we can get into that a little bit deeper. This is the law part of it. But let's go back to the fourteenth amendment here and see if I can go over that.
First clause is all we ever mess with, really. All persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside. There's the resident question. But it doesn't mean where you live. K? You don't know what it means. It means what set of laws do you live under. K? So let's go back. There's eight legal landmines in that sentence. You'd never spot them. They don't teach a lot of them in law school. We've got one of my favorite questions is to ask a patriot guy. So what's the legal meaning behind the word person?
And do you know we've got students here who've asked sitting judges, and they don't know that? They do not understand. They've not been taught the legal meaning behind the word person because it doesn't mean us. It's legal person. From where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties? If you're a federal citizen, you get your rights from the fourteenth amendment, that little clause I just gave you right there, and they're not rights. They're civil rights, capital, small r, and it's the rights that we have among the other citizens in the society. Now we've always been taught that we have god given rights, haven't we, Austin? And we got constitutional
[00:51:07] Unknown:
protection. Uh-huh. Absolutely.
[00:51:09] Unknown:
Well, if not, if you're under the fourteenth amendment, you're under the federal government. Because if you're under the constitution, you have natural god given rights and you owe god your duties, and they can't make all these little bullshit laws and attach them to you because they don't have any jurisdiction over you. You gave them the jurisdiction and the authorization when you answered those two questions, yes, and signed something. You told them, hey. Yes. I I I agree that, I I'm a federal citizen under these layers of fraud. And the second one, are you a resident?
You're you're really, telling them, yes. You can govern me under the laws of Washington DC, the federal laws. But what we wanna do is get you if you want to. If you don't want to, I don't I don't care, you know, honestly. But in the big picture. But we're get you from that federal citizenship back to the original one under God, which was called in the old days a state citizen. Now it's referred to and labeled as a national. Another one of these word word trick things. So Austin, are are I've I've just scratched the surface on this. I'm trying to just hit the high points for you. Okay? But, please, if you've got any questions up to some point, let me know, and we'll try and address them because I'm gonna show you now how they did it. Okay?
So are are we on the same page up to this point? We are. The, the one thing that I do wanna reference
[00:52:41] Unknown:
here, that, a friend of mine back in the day had, pointed the light to is, it it's when we sign the back of our Social Security card. Right? That's when you kind of transfer over your rights. Am I on the same page there? No. That's not in that's not correct. That's not what answers the question.
[00:52:59] Unknown:
You having a Social Security card or signing it or having an account does not give the bureaucrat the power to do all that. K? It's just another contract. And if you go back to, actually to the Social Security page, you can go back. It's called an SS five, I think. And, they'll ask you, are you a national? One of the questions. Ask citizen of The United States or not. And then they'll ask you, are you a national? And you got a little pull down arrow there, and they'll say, of which country? So you see, anybody can contract with Social Security. And that doesn't give them if you've got an account and you're a Frenchman, and you did this for whatever reason, that doesn't give them the authority to come over and enforce American man made laws on you. So it is a way I can show you what this is. I could get off into an explanation we found, but this goes all the way back to Jesus' time in the Pharisees.
They had a social system in the Pharisees' time in Jesus' time too. Yeah? And if you became a Christian, by the way, they kicked you out of it. So what they've done is we can go back to from the start of the country, we had the First Bank of the United States, the Second Bank of the United States, which, of of, Andrew Jackson squashed. And then, then then we didn't have another attempt at least well, they did. They had another attempt right before the civil war. I could tell you that story. I don't wanna sidetrack us at this point, but if you keep coming back, I'll I'll tell it. He's a really important story about it it revolves around Thomas Jefferson, actually.
So then we had this, conflagration called an I I it's a war of northern aggression is what it was. They call it a civil war. There's nothing civil about it. I have come to the conclusion after all these years of research that the civil war was instigated and fought so that they could get the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments in the constitution so they could control our country eighty years later. And through the reserve currency of the world, the US dollar, which we as slaves are collateral for, they control the world. So I think that they cooked up the civil war. That's why nobody, I don't believe, has ever been able to give you a definitive answer on what caused it. This behind in the aggravation, I believe, my belief, I think I can give you a strong strong evidence on that thesis that, they did this so that they could control the world through it because they knew exactly what they were doing.
K? And the my proof to that, to buttress it, is just about the same time. Have you ever heard of Cyrus Scofield?
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It rings a a saint bell.
[00:55:46] Unknown:
This this Scofield Bible, would that ring it louder?
[00:55:50] Unknown:
He was a Darryl preacher. Bit more. You said the Scofield Bible?
[00:55:55] Unknown:
Yes. That's the whole basis of a Okay. Of a religious tenant they call today dispensationalism. And that's this thing that Israel's gonna be the great country and this, that, and the other. They picked up a itinerant preacher, I guess. He was quite a scoundrel. He had had two or at least two families and left him. He'd been, you know, drinking and all this stuff. Well, the bad guys found him and totally took him to New York, groomed him, made him a member of the Lotus Club, a very exclusive club up there. Well, I know where we are now. Are we saying goodbye to anybody, Paul, or no? No. We're not saying goodbye to anybody. Sorry about that. So, Cyrus Scofield was commandeered, if you will, and taken to New York, and he he wrote a Bible called the Scofield Bible. And the Scofield Bible is his a Bible that he interpreted, but it's not in the Bible. It's in the footnotes.
And it's in the footnotes to the Scofield Bible that all this Israel this, Israel that. And, you know, if you don't bless Israel, you'll won't be blessed. And all the garbage that they pull out, like, just like Ted Cruz did on the Tucker Carlson thing recently. So so what they're, doing there, and I kinda lost my train of thought with that. So give me just a second. I'll see if I can get back on thought on track. They started the civil war so they could set these things up knowing this is a very long term project. Okay. So the Civil War and after the Civil War, here's where this citizen of The United States comes in.
Because before the Civil War, there was no federal political status. In essence, the people that lived in DC and the territories were stateless. They didn't have any kind of governing thing. It was a bunch of people. Usually, they had backgrounds to the states and the state citizenship. But of all the people that were born and raised in DC and the territories, they they there was nothing that they could cling to where I get my rights here and owe my duties here because they were stateless. There wasn't a a a form, a structure over them. There was only the other earlier called the state citizen that got their laws from god and owed their duties to god. And then that's what the part of the civil war did, was it took all of the slaves and that that, that our good brethren, the Jews, brought over.
200 of, the Jewish slave trade. That's what it was. 90% of the ships were owned by Jews. They had Jewish captain and they had Jewish crews. That was for two hundred years. And to the effect that all the slave markets in North And South America, Savannah, up there, Newport, Rhode Island was one of the first ones. Any slave port, North or South, hemisphere were closed on Jewish holidays. K? So they brought all these slaves over and sold them. They had about $20 in them. Boy, you'll like this being a being a money guy. They had about $20 in them and rum or whatever they traded for them. Usually, it was the blacks on the coast that would go in and raid the other tribes that they were rivals with, and they'd capture them and bring them and sell them off into slavery and get rid of them. Well, that's a pretty good way to get rid of your enemies, I guess.
But, anyway, they had about $20 in each one, and they sold them for an average of 2,000 when they hit the slave markets. That's pretty good ROI, Austin?
[00:59:28] Unknown:
I think so. Okay.
[00:59:30] Unknown:
So that's what they did. And, you know, most of the, plantations, there's only a few, the minuscule 1%, maybe two, that had even more than a couple of slaves. Some of them had just one or two, and if they'd spend that kind of money in that kind in those days, excuse me, to acquire a slave, they're not gonna get out there and beat them up and stuff. They got a lot of money in them. It's like your pet dog, man. You got your pet rare breed there. You're gonna take real good care of it. Comb it all the time. Keep it washed, all that kind of stuff. Well, that's what they did. A lot of those blacks became part of the families.
Actually, and and almost all of the Jews owned owned 40 to 50 slaves, actually. So, anyway, that was what led up to the civil war. And after the civil war, they they came back and said, well, it's to give these people who had no political rights at all, they were slaves, to give them a new form of citizenship. Well, really what they did was they took them off of the southern plantation, and they put them on the federal plantation, in essence. I I mean, did you hear Trump say the other day the fourteenth amendment was for the children of slaves?
He said it twice. Yes. You did what he he has no idea how damned accurate he is. He has no idea how accurate he is. Now what was your comment? I stepped on you there. No. No. No. No. I was, I was also confirming that he has been saying that a lot recently just due to the,
[01:01:01] Unknown:
what was it, the, the immigration laws.
[01:01:04] Unknown:
Well, it was from the court case that dealt with this, national injunctions on birthright citizenship. Now this isn't birthright citizenship. We're gonna get into that in a minute. But it's the migrants that have had babies since they came up there, and their their parents were illegal here. So how can the child be legal? And that was the question. The Supreme Court settled it. It'll they gave them options around it. One New Hampshire judge is already starting to set up a class action. They gave them a couple of, options to get around it. But regardless, Fred, this point, the children of the immigrants are not citizens. Now, evidently, this birthright citizenship thing in it is really important.
This birthright citizenship thing is gonna go on being discussed and possibly litigated, and we're gonna see it next year. And we're overjoyed here because this is a really important thing that really hadn't been discussed much in over a hundred years, about a hundred and twenty years or so, actually, since, 1898. So, so that's going on, and that's where that was from. And I do hope they explore it. But the principle is, originally, that you had some sort of presence here in the country and that you, had a child. And the child was born, and it it there's two ways to pass a regimen, Austin.
One is called jus sangenius, and the other is called jus tierra or they sometimes say jus sole. And one is by blood, sangui in in Spanish is blood. Sanginius is that means your parents were this is why if you, have a heritage in Greece, Spain, Italy, Poland, I think think there's a couple other ones over there. If your grandparents, for exist example, were Polish, you get a Polish citizenship. That's because it's transferred through the generations by blood. K? The other one is by hereditament. The other one is where you're born. That's just Tierra land. Tierra's land in Spanish. And, it's just Tierra. Just, j u s is law, by the way, Austin. So just Tierra means that where you're born is where the country of where you get your rights and all that stuff. K?
So, this is what the whole premise of anchor babies you you're familiar with the term anchor babies?
[01:03:36] Unknown:
First time.
[01:03:38] Unknown:
No? Really? Okay. Well, it's been a big deal for quite a while. Yeah. I'll be you don't live next to the border, kinda. But here with this birthright citizenship and this fourteenth amendment, all persons born in The United States okay. That's what it says. Even though that's not The United States and Arizona, Arizona is, it's in The United States Of America, but it's not The United States because The United States is strictly federal territory and its influence over that through a term called jurisdiction, which is gonna become very important. K? And so, anchor babies are when, let's say, a Mexican mom wades across the river. She's about to have her water break. She does and has the child there in Arizona or Southern California, but the parents are still Mexican nationals, aren't they? The child's a citizen of The United States, but the parents are Mexican nationals.
And now they can bring in 25 family members and everything else. Right? Well, that's Anchor Babies. Okay? And what we're finding out Okay. I never read you follow me. What we're finding out that I never even realized is, through one of your good California law professors at a small school out there, professor Eastman, constitutional professor, lawyer, and, he's looked into this deeply. And in one of his talks, he said, I can't find where this started applying to anchor babies. He said, it appears that it happened in the fifties, the late fifties, or the sixties. You don't understand what's going on yet. That's a really important part of the timeline.
Okay? But that's what he said. He said, I could only find it very vaguely here. If you go back to the previous examples that have been litigated, some very famous cases out of the Supreme Court on this, and the one primarily, there's several, but, this one is called US versus Wong Kim Ark. And, it came out of California. And this is the main case that all the Obama birthers you're probably a a little bit younger back then to pay attention to that stuff, but, you know, there's a big thing. Obama doesn't have a birth certificate. And, so this was the case that all the Obama birthers used. It's probably the preeminent case in the history of the country on, on these issues, citizenship, denizenship, etcetera, etcetera. And, so, this question, it probably going to be, I hope, litigated more in at least the next term of the Supreme Court, but that's the question. And Wong Kim Ark said here, I'll tell you the story.
Wong Kim Ark's parents were Chinese. They immigrated to The US. They were here, I don't know how long, at least established themselves. I don't know whether they were technically residents. I don't know what the laws were for that sort of thing back then, but they were in that huge Chinese, invasion, basically. A lot of Americans thought that, made San Francisco what it was. K? And so, they came over. They had Wong. Wong grew up a bit, wanted to go back. They're still Chinese citizens, but they've got an established presence in San Francisco. And so, Wong wanted to go see the grandparents. So he went back to China, came back. No problem. Let him in. Couple of years went on, and at that point, the, uplash backlash from the Chinese immigration and there was a lot of discrimination on those folks. It was really a pronounced situation.
And the Chinese well, what happened was that was building. Wong went to China again a second time, came back, and they wouldn't let him in. He's I'm a citizen of The United States. I was born here. You let me in before. Nope. Things have changed. So the Chinese, the only thing they had as a potential remedy was to file court suits, and they filed them by the thousands. 10,000 or more were blocking up and plugging up. You can imagine what the jurisdiction what the court system was back, you know, a hundred and twenty years ago. Had the court system dockets totally, totally jammed up. And so two cases, there's another one that doesn't really have the impact on what we do that that we do, but this other one and Wong Kim Ark made it to the Supreme Court.
And, they decided that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of The United States. Okay? And, it's a super important ruling, and that's what we're dealing with now. We're we're the parents these migrants, when they came over, were they established? Well, no. They broke the law getting into the country. And so they've got a kid that is now a citizen. Well, how do you get somebody that's illegal legal, you know, when they're here illegally? So this is the big contention, man. It's it's it's topical right now. Okay? So, that was the rule. Now underneath this, the only place in history of the world that this just tiara has been applicable up to now.
By the way, Canada just instituted birthright citizenship last week. First time. So, what what is underneath this, the only other society in history that ever had this as one of its fixtures was the feudal system. How much do you know about the feudal system, Austin?
[01:09:24] Unknown:
I'm gonna safely assume not as much as you.
[01:09:27] Unknown:
That would be a that would be a very safe assumption. The feudal system arose out of the downfall of Rome. And as the Gosse and the Visigoths came down to and and prayed on the Romans, they mainly didn't go down into Rome. At first, they cut off the cities to Gaul. Gaul is Spain. And, there along the Mediterranean, they would come down and what they do is they cut off the road to the city and they'd put the little town or whatever it was, they'd sequester it and surround it and put it under siege. The people that could get out, they had two choices. They'd go jump in the Mediterranean because that's all along the Mediterranean there. They could, French Riviera, you'd call it now. They could jump into the Spanish. They could jump into the Mediterranean and swim with the sharks.
Not probably a too desirable an option. Or they could go inland. As they went inland back into lower reaches of Europe, most of the land was owned by former Roman statesmen and Roman generals. They'd give them land as a reward for their victories. And so the people trying to flee the Gosse and the Visigoths would go to the people that owned the land, and they go, the not Gosse and the Visigoths are coming. They're really killing people and stuff. I need some protection. And and, the guy that owned the land goes, well, damn. I think I need it too. So I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. I'll give you protection if you give me allegiance.
And that is the formula that's still applicable today. That is the root formula of that mysterious word called jurisdiction. Protection for allegiance. Allegiance for protection. It's an yeah. And, Austin, have you ever seen those old movies where where the guy has his has his chest chest armor on? He and he's talking to the the guy, and he bangs his fist on this armor. He goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. Well, that's what's going on here. K? Liege Absolutely. L l l e I g e is the root word of this word, allegiance. And allegiance for protection and protection for allegiance, I cannot impress upon you how important this is.
Because when you bring in one of those elements, the other is brought in automatically. K? And that's what you told them when you signed those things. You said, I give you I give you allegiance. I'm a citizen of United States, and you signed it. Well, hell Austin ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no damned excuse. I'm gonna take him at his word. If you tell me that you are in the same condition as a former black slave, Austin, I'm gonna believe you. Yeah. Here. Here's the deal. See, here's the big secret. Here's the big secret. We've got the power. They don't have the power.
We've got it. We've been tricked out of it in this little scheme. Now they've got it because we gave it to them. It's voluntary. It has to be voluntary to be constitutional. Take it away. It's real simple. They hide it real well, very effectively, and I'm just so fortunate to have been to my knowledge, I'm the only guy that's ever beat these son of a bitches in history Okay? And, so take it away. They can't say anything. It take this is what it takes to get out of the federal system, the taxation system, all of it. Austin, you're not going to believe it. But I promise you it's true. I can show you on a state department website.
K? I, Austin the metals kid, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national but not a citizen in The United States. And you can either send it in like that, you can go get it, notarized, but you send it to the secretary of state, and you're out of the federal system, Austin. All of it except for two obscure sections of the Internal Revenue Code, eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, which are both constitutional taxes. And if you owe those taxes, you need to pay them. But all the other tax code, all your capital gains, and everything else, you don't owe anymore. How's that sound?
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It's a it's a taxpayer, taxpayer's dream.
[01:13:46] Unknown:
Well, it's a it's a non taxpayer's dream. It's kinda like a wet dream Alright. People. Okay? And, but that's what it is. And I'm gonna show you I'm gonna show you in a minute after I explain a little bit more to you. I'm gonna show you where that is. Okay? So you can go look at this. You go check it out. You can ask your tax oh, they won't know. They won't believe you. K? But, anyway, I'll show you where that is in just a second. And once you go through this whole process, that here's what happens to you. People say, well, what are the advantages of being a national? Well, first thing it does is it sets you back under god's law and authority where you were meant to be at your birth, but this whole scheme has stolen that from you at birth.
All persons born applying just tiara, which is the feudal system underneath. So you're born because your parents were in this condition. We've all been in the condition since March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. You remember? Oh, boy. Well, this is so right up your alley, Austin. Do you remember when Roosevelt took the gold? Well, I mean, I know you don't remember. You've heard about it. Right? Right. Absolutely. Okay. What happened that day? They the bankruptcy of The United States in the bond market. Okay? Now let's go on that premise. So Yeah. Let me explain this to you just a little bit. I'll show you two different approaches to it.
You sell gold. That's your business. Well, gold is real money. Okay? And free people get to use gold because it's real, and they don't have an encumbrance or a citizen any any kind of encumbrance on them. They're free people. They use real money to go buy things that they own. Right? Free people use real money to buy things, not discharge the debt to actually purchase it because they don't have a property right on them. They can actually buy things, pay for them, and own them. K? So this is pre March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. Now that was called the bank holiday. Have you heard stuff about this since you've been in this business?
Yeah. I I could touch on a few points there. Okay. Well, let's just go over it and just make sure we're confirmed with both of us agreeing. Okay? Because I'm just showing you technically what happened. Now if you go to Black's Law Dictionary and look under the bank holiday of 1933, it will tell you and I can't give you all the verbiage here. I'll give you the important part paraphrasing a bit. The, the banks were all closed for five days and later reopened under regulations issued by the secretary of the treasury. But if you had gold in your safe deposit box when you went back to the bank, whatever value of gold you had at $20 an ounce, they'd left you paper, Federal Reserve notes.
[01:16:32] Unknown:
Right.
[01:16:33] Unknown:
And so do you know that there wasn't a secretary of the treasury before March in 1933, and there were no such thing as regulations? Because there were no agencies. So this a pivotal day right here. Correct. And the banks opened, and they came back with Federal Reserve notes. Now Federal Reserve note, unbeknownst to the people at the time and even today, is you're the collateral for those. When it says, when it says, how does it say on the front? Legal tender, etcetera, etcetera. And it says it's a a oh, I'm getting a little a little lost in my thoughts. Legal tender for all debts public in private? Well, it says that, and and it says, well, it's a guarantee.
It's a guarantee that the money is good, and I just can't think of it. But Full faith and credit of The United States. Well, I heard that, but that's not what I'm looking for. Okay? But underneath that dollar, for every bill that's put out into circulation, there's a bond. Well, there's your full faith and credit of The United States is the bond. The bondholders are gonna get their payment. It's not on the dollar. The dollar is represented by the bond. And underneath it says, like like, Paul just said, and they guarantee your dollars. Well, that's not the dollar you're spending. It's the bond underneath because the bond market is the big kahuna.
You know, I'm sure, Austin, in your line of work, that the bond market is five to 10 or more times bigger than the stock market. The bond market's the big kahuna. Austin, isn't bond the root word of bondage?
[01:18:19] Unknown:
You can make that correlation.
[01:18:20] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm pretty sure it's the root word of it. So we've got $38,000,000,000,000 worth of outstanding debt now, and it's all in the bond market. K? So here is the big kahuna is the bond market right here. And so maybe if you wanna come back another day, we can get into how the whole monetary system is set up. It's information, I would think, would be very beneficial for you because I doubt if you know all this. Okay? Absolutely. So what they've got now, we'll go back to the fourteenth amendment, all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Notice, Austin, it does not say all persons born in The United born or naturalized in The United States, comma, are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, does it? It says and.
If there's some that are and subject, doesn't that automatically mean there's some that are and not subject?
[01:19:20] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:19:21] Unknown:
Well, that's who we are. We're the ones that are not subject to it because we didn't answer the two questions and sign something. And then we went back if we had, which all of us have our earlier life, we went back and corrected them that that that may have been our choice at the time, but it ain't anymore, and we're gonna volunteer out. And do you know the most marvelous thing, Austin? They can't do a damn thing about it. Tell me. It's in their laws. It's basic our choice. There's tons of layers of fraud involved. So fraud vitiates any contract ab initio from the beginning. I'm sure you know.
Know. So all we have to do is tell them that we wanna be this. It exposes their fraud. They not only can't say no because we've got the power they've tricked it out of us, but also because it's the truth. And so we submitted to the highest authority in the land. And do you know what the biggest, baddest son of a bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth? You know what they do, Austin? They stand totally mute. They don't say anything. They don't object. They don't come bust your eggs. They don't do anything because they can't or else they'll be open tyrants. And they know what happens to open tyrants far better than we do. K?
Right. So this is what happened.
[01:20:42] Unknown:
Yes, Paul. Go ahead. Can I make one suggestion? There's a movie. It's called the Jones Plantation, and it weighs out everything from the beginning from slavery all the way through what the government has done to trick all of us into being slaves. It talks about the currency. It talks about, the deceit, the deception, the fear, the, the pitting, part of the population against the other, you know, kinda like the old crabs in a bucket. You know, one tries to climb out, the rest of them are grabbing him to pull him back. And pulling back in. Well, that's just exactly what I experienced this week here in Ecuador
[01:21:27] Unknown:
with this group of expats, maybe up to occasionally forty, fifty people. But there's these three or four people that were the crabs that tried to pull me back in and I broke away and they asked me to leave and that's fine. But I'm gonna go I'm gonna identify and point out the truth to everybody I can. And if you don't like it, you don't believe it, you've been propagandized, you got all kinds of crap in your subconscious. Oh, there's your god shows the people. I don't care because I got the truth. Then when I make a And it's all brother Jim. Pardon me?
[01:22:02] Unknown:
They wants to make us all brother Jim.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
Okay. She's some awesome okay. So, Austin, this is what's going on. In March after the civil war, they they went ahead and let this lie and and laid down their foundation. Back interestingly enough, the period of the country's some of its greatest prosperity was in the eighteen seventies to the nineteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds when we were on a tariff system. Okay? It was incredibly productive. In fact, I saw a cartoon back in the eighteen seventies, and it showed the well of the senate there. And and and the well in the bottom of the senate was all full of alligators.
And there was so much excess money that they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate off of off of tariffs. So, So, of course, that's what Trump's trying to move us into. Well, then they got rid of that on 1913, and we came in with the Federal Reserve Act and which Woodrow Wilson passed the sorry traders bastard. And, I hear then they took about, oh, ten about fifteen or a little more years until 1933. They bankrupted the stock mark they bank they did the stock market crash. They opened up the oh, hell. Microsoft. I see you.
Okay. Boy, I love Microsoft. So they, they waited until 1913. They got control of the Congress. They passed it. I'm sure you know the story of the Federal Reserve Act, Creature from Jekyll Island or Secrets of the Federal Reserve, more, more more accurate. So they got that in, and then they took about, almost twenty years to go up to March '19 '33. They bankrupted the country in the bond market and not the stock market. Didn't do it. This doesn't have anything to do with the stock market crash. There's a bond market crash, which, every country has bankruptcy laws. And though they didn't go through, to my knowledge, any any court type procedure, they, of course, wanted it quiet. They just bankrupted the country in the bond market. I've got a you know who congressman Louis t McFadden was? Have you heard of him, Austin?
[01:24:14] Unknown:
Louis t McFadden. Which state was he from?
[01:24:17] Unknown:
From Pennsylvania. The Northeast section was his district. He was a former banker. He'd worked his way up from infancy trash cans to the president of the bank. He ran for congress, got elected in about 1915. And back then, the house had a bank a bank committee. He was the president of the bank committee from when he got elected until either what what I've read, they killed him or somebody, Larry, said that he got voted out. It's hard for me to imagine him them being powerful enough to vote him out because one of the things I read about him, Austin, is kinda incredible. The last time he ran for congress, he was nominated by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Populist Party.
All three parties in his district nominated the same guy. I've never heard of that happening before. K? He's the one if you go look him up on the Internet, and he'll you'll see some of his famous speeches. One like the Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper. So he was very oriented. He was quite outspoken. We've got a book, that is one of my favorite books I've ever read in this since I've been in this. Paul's got it on the website in a PDF. It's called the 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden, and they pulled 31 speeches to the house between 31 and '33. It's all on this, how the BIS was was started. All all this stuff's in there. So if you really wanna dig deep and get a very accurate historical perspective, the collective speeches of Lewis t McFadden is the book. K? It's it's just fantastic. In fact, in there, McFadden says one of his speeches says, ladies and gentlemen, the house of the United States is bankrupt. The English auditors are in the treasury. There's 21 French limousines waiting outside.
There's your bankruptcy. K? He also said in one of his speeches, they're erecting a Machiavellian feudal system, which is what we have. When you're born, all persons born, you're automatically because of the bankruptcy and the debt, we've got this straight from the bad guys pen, they put all of us in, all of our parents or grandparents as sureties for this debt under the fourteenth amendment as citizens of The United States because buried underneath birthright citizenship is the feudal system. Now they have a property right in you. You have been put into a position at birth of voluntary servitude, which is lawful in the constitution in two places.
If I told you slavery was was lawful in the constitution, you probably wouldn't agree with that. Okay? Might might not. You could come back and say, yeah. I'm a financial slave. Nobody. You're a lot more than a financial slave. You're actually a it's called the English variety of slavery. It's the feudal system. It's gotta be voluntary. K? And I can go into the reasons for that. I won't right now. There's a lot of depth here in these these things. We could talk about them for twenty or thirty minutes or hours. Okay? So but underneath hidden underneath the fourteenth amendment, all this birthright citizenship is the feudal system. They let it sit there and wait all the way through the eighteen sixties until 1933.
The country was bankrupt. Now they pull out the fourteenth amendment and put everybody in there as sureties for the debt. So everyone in was put in there automatically at one time, and then every child born since has been born into the condition. That's why they ask you the two questions to get your your confirmation and your consent. So, there's so much here to talk about, you know, really. But here's the deal. The fourteenth amendment is a two prong legal test. I I doubt that you've probably delved much into law or have you, Austin? Surprise me, please.
[01:28:30] Unknown:
Unfortunately, I cannot set the universe.
[01:28:34] Unknown:
I I I think that's really good on one respect because you got a clean slate. You haven't been mucked up with a bunch of crap that's out there. So that's good because I got you first. So I'll fill you full of correct stuff if you wanna be. So the fourteenth amendment says all persons born in that all persons born are naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside. Now let me show you the land mines in here. Person? A person? What person? Is that a person like you and me, or is that a legal person? This is a legal person. You're under the fourteenth amendment. Your legal personality is where you get your rights to know your duties. And if you're a federal citizen, you get them from the fourteenth amendment, and they're called civil rights, not god given rights.
So that's the first one. Person's born. We already gone under born a little bit. Underneath it hidden under a couple of layers is the feudal system, which they're putting you in when you agree to it or at birth and then agree to it. Born or naturalized. Well, used to be they naturalized people when you came on in The States because there wasn't a federal, entity. And now you're all naturalized under the federal thing, which means you automatically are naturalized under the fourteenth amendment. Born or naturalized in The United States. Well, which United States? The the the is it The United States, or is that The United States Of America?
Well, it's The United States. It's the federal United States. The nation is The United States Of America. And that, when you file this paperwork, is what you go back to and you remove yourself from the federal zone and from federal jurisdiction. And then comma, so there's a lot of, there's a number of different meanings to the word United States. It could be taken in a number of different ways. Go back and look in a Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition or before. They'll quote you a Supreme Court case that tells you that. So that's the first clause. Now if you get into law, Austin, a lot of times they'll say, well, if we're trying to achieve and identify this result, we'll have a number of tests.
Was the guy on this land? Did he have a gun? And if all those tests, then yes, that applies to him. Well, we're gonna do the same thing here. The fourteenth amendment is a two pronged, two test sentence. You gotta be born or naturalized in The United States first, and then you gotta be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Remember, it says and the subject. It doesn't say our subject. If it was our subject, we'd all be in it. Correct. But it's and. So somebody's got a choice somewhere because you've gotta do something to make yourself subject to it. That's a big question that's come up in here as of late with this stuff. So you're hearing people, lawyers, educated people supposedly get out and discuss these things, and most of them don't know what the hell they're talking about. I'm a tell you right right on. K? Because they don't even know what a damn person is.
A person legally is is here's a little law class for you, Austin. And the we got listeners other listeners out there. I can't impress upon you how important this is. And only reason I know it's because John Benson was my law teacher. K? A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties, an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. So, example, if you are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, then your legal personality is under the fourteenth amendment as a federal citizen because you receive civil rights under the fourteenth amendment, and you owe the federal government the duty, like filing your taxes, obeying the regulations, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But if you file this paperwork, you're gonna move out of that. You see, it's not am I a person, which is what most of our patriot community people think because they don't even teach this concept in law schools evidently anymore. We got sitting judges that don't know what I'm showing you right now. K? So if you're not that legal, it's not are you a person, it's which person are you. So if you file this paperwork, you will, on your own power and your own discretion, you're gonna move and change your legal personality, and now you're gonna get it back to where it was supposed to be where you received god given rights and you owe god your duties.
So, Austin, let me just ask you as a neophyte here, you don't you have been exposed to a little bit. Would you rather live under god's laws and duties, or do you wanna live under all the federal government and the monsters that run it? Which one would you rather do?
[01:33:18] Unknown:
Well, after being reborn, I've I've definitely learned that regardless whether we want to or not, we're living under God's laws.
[01:33:26] Unknown:
Well, let's put it this way. Once did want to, Okay. Great. Let me just say this. Once you make up your mind what you are, then that's what you are. All you're doing by this other action with paperwork is you're confirming it in a in a a way that they have to recognize and understand. And I love what you said since you've been saved because I I you just you I can tell why you're here. Okay. So now please ask your question or comment. Yes.
[01:33:56] Unknown:
What what I wanted to cover, is the situation at hand that I find myself in. Am I gonna have to go back and revoke some of these?
[01:34:06] Unknown:
No. No.
[01:34:08] Unknown:
No. You do it with the app. Contract or just going forward? Don't click the boxes.
[01:34:13] Unknown:
Well, all of those contracts, remember, any contract that involves fraud is is, ab initio from the beginning. It's void. So any of these other things that you perceive as a contract, if they're based on fraud, they're all void. So your one piece of paper with the secretary of state takes care of all of that. You don't have to do that. And we've never had anybody. I've been teaching this on the air in one way, shape, or form. The reason I understand it is because I've been teaching it so long. You know, if you wanna understand something, teach it. Right? It's because I've been teaching this to these folks for fifteen years.
And do you know we've never had one blowback from the federal government on it? Oh, they try and pull some little bluff stuff, and they're gonna test you maybe if to see if you really know this or if you're just filing paper. But, we've never had one blowback. Well, the IRS never, they try. They didn't know what to do for a number of years because I nail them on their jurisdictional statement. I'll show you that in a minute. But, we've never had anything from them. They're not coming and breaking into people's houses or season stuff. Well, they can't now, and I'll show you by their own regulations.
But, at this point, that's what is going on is they stick you into this at birth. Then as you get to be of age, they ask you the two questions to get your agreement. Now you've agreed to their fraud and given them what they really covet is the consent of the governed. That's why they had to go through all these years and and subterfuge and flipping meanings of words so they can ask you those two questions and get your agreement. Now they've got what they really crave, the consent to govern you in that capacity. And even more so than that, they've got this thing called plausible deniability. Oh, Austin told us he was a slave. We're gonna take his word for it. He signed his his signature.
That's what's going on. They've turned the world upside down so that they can ask you those two questions and get your commitment and your authority to govern you in the capacity of a person in voluntary servitude. There's two places in the constitution, Austin. One is in earlier. I think it's four or five, article four or five, and they say that they can't impair your ability to contract. Right? You know, you're familiar with you've heard that?
[01:36:44] Unknown:
Can can you say that once more? Yes. They can't impair
[01:36:48] Unknown:
your ability to contract. K. Well, if you if you volunteer I'm gonna show you another one just a second. It's it's much clearer. If you enter into a voluntary condition of being in servitude, it's voluntary and you got some kind of agreement with the guy you're volunteered into, don't you? Well, they can't impair that. They can't stop you from doing that. They cannot impair your federal government, the constitution, your ability to contract. So that's what voluntary servitude is by its own nature. Its own definition, it's a contract. K? And you're volunteering to go into this guy's authority to do whatever you agree on with you as a voluntary serf. Now at that point, whatever the percentage of of ownership makes no difference.
O o o o 1%, you're a slave. Well, you're still a slave. Now on the opposite, the dialectic side of that, to be really free, you've gotta be 100% free and can't be any slave. So it doesn't matter what the percentage is. It matters that they've got this on you. Let me ask you. Here's another real this is where all this trickery comes in, Austin. If I were to say to Julie Austin paid off his car last last month. It's in the driveway. That car is his property. And Julie would know what I was talking about. You'd know what I was talking about, and I'd know what we're talking about. We're on the same page. Right? Unfortunately, legally, that's not the case.
Legally, property is a right, and the car is a thing. It's not the property. It's a thing. Mhmm. And your property is a right in and to the thing. So your property is a right. You've heard property rights. Your property is a right, not a thing. So this is another one of these deals where they screw up our minds. And they they stick these colloquial definitions into us, and then they come use a really highly specialized word against us. They set us up with generalities, and they zap us with specificity. K?
So, that basically is what's going on. Now I we could go into, also, we could go into hours on digging into this thing on these different things.
[01:39:15] Unknown:
But do you get the overall concept that I'm that we're teaching here? I do. You've you've been a great teacher so far, and I do like how, you know, every every time I feel like we're going off course, you always bring it back. So I do appreciate your tutelage.
[01:39:28] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I used to be a teacher. I love doing this. It's one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done. God, for whatever reason, blessed me with this knowledge and brought me down this path over many years. And, it's my duty to teach it. I don't charge you. You're gonna have to if you wanna follow this path, you gotta pay a price, but it's not monetary, and it's not to me. You're gonna have to learn the information. You're gonna have to start and think. You're gonna have to get rid of the errors in that they've planted in your mind, and you're gonna have to replace that with a real truth. And that takes time. It takes a little effort, and you gotta get your synapses firing again. Okay? So that's the price you're gonna pay because your freedom and the amount of it is directly correlated to how well you can defend your position.
So it's how much of this information do you wanna absorb and understand? You know, God says above all, seek understanding. How much of it can you understand? And that's gonna directly correlate to how free you are. If you can't defend your position, you ain't gonna be very damn free, are you? No. So that's the price you're gonna pay. But the you're gonna enlarge it. You're getting closer to your god. You're gonna start getting what what's going on in the big picture here, Austin? The biggest picture is Esau Edom has stolen his birthright back. Are you familiar with that story? You know, which one, Esau Edom. On the birthright back? Yes. On the birth this is when they were born.
Esau was born first. And and then Jacob evidently, came out holding his ankle. They evidently the story I've heard, they tied a red string around Esau's ankle to show and benefit that he was born first and got the birthright. And then later on, he didn't want the birthright, and he sold it for a a bowl of oatmeal porridge. And he sold it to Jacob. What they've done is they've stolen that back with this. Now they've got the birthright. Oh, just take it back. That is really, honestly, what's going on here. They've tricked you into giving them back the birthright that they sold. So you wanna be free, Austin?
I I I I'm I don't try and convince people. I just lay facts out there. If you can follow them and this interests you, you're you're a person of interest and you ought to follow-up on this. And if it doesn't mean anything to you and you wanna stay a slave and believe I'm an asshole like some of these people do down here, well, then that's your choice, and I'm alright with it. Okay? But I my job is to let you know you've got a choice you didn't know you had. If you're interested, I explain it to you and and and grab your hand and walk you down the road to freedom because that's what we do with folks. I don't charge you a penny. K?
But if you wanna get me on a personal consultation stuff, I'm gonna charge you for it. Charge you a $150. Okay? But that's why I have the radio show. So people like you can come on here and ask these questions without having to do that, and that the whole rest of the audience can benefit off these answers. Because these folks that are here with us today, it doesn't matter how many times they've heard this. Every time they hear it, they hear something different because they've grown underneath. And something that they didn't have the ability to put into its proper context before, now that they've learned a little bit, they go, oh, god. I didn't see that the first time. So that's why they hang around here because it doesn't matter. You cannot be exposed to these basics enough times. You can't do it. Now okay. Let's open up the audience here because there's, is is there anything I've forgotten that's important, Julie?
Anybody else wanna talk to young Austin?
[01:43:20] Unknown:
Hi, Roger. Hello, Susan. Hey, Austin. I I Austin, I just wanna say that, Austin, I know you work during the week, but all these calls are recorded. We are on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday from eleven to one, and then there's an after show afterwards that some of us are on for another two hours. So Oh, lord. For stuff, if you back and listen to things, but, also, just try your best to be on here on Saturdays if you can't make it during the week because because that's what we're all here for. We love new students because we the more we take out of the system of this slavery system that they've bestowed upon us so fraudulently, the more, you know, the better this country will be because, as I told you yesterday, the IRS is not even a federal government agency. It's owned by the Crown, and the headquarters are in Puerto Rico, and they're just stealing from us left and right. And you're so fortunate at how young you are.
We all, probably, a lot of us on here wish we were your age and had this opportunity to get out of the system at your age. I think that's it, Roger. I mean, there's just so much background to this, but the more you learn about the fourteenth Amendment and what those words and the meanings behind them are, because you wanna think resident is a geographical area, not yes, it is, sometimes in the context in which it's used, but not in the usage of the fourteenth Amendment. It means are you subject to their political jurisdiction, which means their laws, rules, regulations, codes, statutes, and everything.
Once you get out of that, they don't have any jurisdiction over you, which means the IRS doesn't have jurisdiction over you. And a bonus to being part of this group, Austin, is that we have some amazing lawyers in here. So if you really want to I shouldn't use the word protect your assets, protect your wealth. We use estate planning purposes, but they will teach you how to put your house, your car, and your bank accounts into trust. And they're you don't own them, but you control them, and nobody can touch them. So if you get a lawsuit against you, good luck. You're not collectible. So that's all I wanna say, but I'm so happy you came on today, Austin, because I've invited so many people on, and they don't show up. They don't show happy you're here. Yep. And I would like to be in that you're And I appreciate it, Julie. You
[01:45:41] Unknown:
Go go ahead, Austin.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Thank you. I was gonna say thank you for the invitation, Julie. This is, you know, you really, kind of blew me away, you know, because there's a there's a lot of people that can speak on these topics, but you were referencing dates, certain, certain articles. You were referencing the the different acts, and I'm just kind of like, this woman is
[01:46:03] Unknown:
sharp. And, Roger, you have to option. I have to I have And I do appreciate you being here. Yeah. I have to interrupt you here because, honestly, I learned it not only from Roger, but I learned it from the entire group members here. We have websites on here. Mirka has a Telegram channel when you get on Telegram that you can join, and there's also another one called nationalstatus.info, and that is Dave and Kate's site, and we're one big happy family here. We help everybody. Everybody in here, I love them to death, and they're my new family. I mean, we're all on the same page here, and everybody wants everybody to be happy here given the, corrupt world we're in right now. So I'm just so happy you showed up, and I hope you come back on again on Saturday. Or if you're if you have an an hour to hop on during the week to listen during your lunch hour, you wanna come on and listen because, like I said, they're all recorded. You can go back and listen to them, and we're all here to help you.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
I just comment. Yes. There's a Mercury right there in a comment. Let me let me tell Austin something right now. I'll turn it over to you guys. Austin, you're a metals dealer. Because I've been in this so long and one of the first things I started because I like economics. We studied the economic side of this and figured out the difference between Keynes and and and Austrian. And and I got very fortunate right around the year February, a little bit before, I I I had a monopoly on a wonderful product called a silver plated bandage by the guy that, well, invented it or that patented it and all that. I was the only salesman for that in the world. And I was at a unique time in my life when I married a gal, moved in with her and her mother, and I didn't have any overhead. So I was out of the tax system. I have this wonderful cash flow situation, and I got no overhead at all.
K? So, over a couple of years, there were, you know, thousands of dollars were rolling through. And because I understood this stuff, I had a I had well, one of my friends there in Atlanta was one of the top 20 coin dealers in the world. He's retired now. His name was Tom Cloud. And, so Tom was right there in town, and so I'd go down and just buy gold hand over fist. You're gonna like this right here, Austin. I bought all my gold at under $300 and under. In a period, you may have heard referred to as Brown's bottom. Have you heard of Brown's bottom? Have you heard that term?
[01:48:31] Unknown:
You keep throwing these at me, Roger. And I I keep hating to disappoint, but I haven't heard of Brown's bottom before. Brown's bottom. Billton Brown was the head president of the exchequer.
[01:48:42] Unknown:
And in about nineteen o one, you can go check it out. I don't remember. He sold half of England's gold supply to the lowest bidder at an auction.
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02/2001.
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Okay. 02/2001.
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And, of course, we don't know. We won't tell us the Rothschilds bought it. That's pretty obvious who he sold it to. That's why they call it Brown's bottom. So all I've done is sit on that, and it's it's now worth what? Well, you're probably up on it more than I am. What? $33.50 or something else? Okay. So it was this knowledge that allowed me to make that play. That's the point I'm trying to make. Okay? Yeah. So, alright. We yeah. Hold on, Merc. I know you're there, honey. Okay. Merc is chomping at the bit. Merca, what do you have to say to Austin? She's right out there by the You probably
[01:49:32] Unknown:
welcome welcome, Austin. And I wanted to I think you covered this, Roger. We are as a private individual national, we are gonna be under national law. We are no longer a US citizen who is in the public with with The United States corporation. So it's to that's where the jurisdiction is. And, also, god. I forgot what I was gonna say. I had something quickly for him. But, he can reach out at national status freedom dot com. I mean, national status freedom on Telegram, and, we can give him more information. But, yeah, we are we are back under the private versus, the public. That's what I was gonna say. Comment.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Okay. Now we got Paul. Paul is our engineer here. He makes all this magic happen so that I can convey these fabulous concepts of freedom to all of you. Paul, what do you have to add? Hello, Austin. Welcome to the show. Have you been taking notes?
[01:50:38] Unknown:
I've been having a lot of windows open. Okay. If that counts. Alright.
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Make a make a note of go to the matrixstocks.com. Give that web page up. Oh, yes. Juliet,
[01:50:53] Unknown:
turned me yes. She had a Okay. Me onto this website. I did have that one pulled up actually. At
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the right underneath the free conference called links is a, are some other links in the center of the page. I think they're bonus materials or whatever. In there, you will find the link to Merca's national status freedom telegram channel. You will also find a link to, the Radio Ranch Chateango chat channel. You will also find the links to the PPN Radio Ranch Telegram channel. You will also find the link to docs.exposethematrix.com. When you click on docs.exposethematrix.com, it will open a new window or a new tab, and that will put you in our document repository.
Now when you're there, I want you to search for two things. I want you to search for, Lewis t McFadden or just search for Lewis. It'll come up. And then you there you will find the book that Roger referred to, Federal Reserve Exposed, the 31 collective speeches of congressman Louis t McFadden. You will find that PDF. You will also put in Jones. Just put in the name Jones. And, you may find a link to, the Jones Plantation movie so you can get the backstory of exactly everything in the movie and how it overlays over
[01:52:38] Unknown:
what you've known your entire life. Yeah. It's kinda animated. It's it's it's very effective.
[01:52:45] Unknown:
And another thing, there is a books folder up there. There are literally buckets of books up there. Austin.
[01:52:57] Unknown:
Austin, do you feel like you're getting a drink of water out of the fire hydrant here?
[01:53:01] Unknown:
There is also a folder called t y n a s. There's also a folder called t y n a s that is twelve years not a slave, and there are over a thousand years in there.
[01:53:18] Unknown:
Has he been referenced to the Eugene Schroeder?
[01:53:22] Unknown:
No. Not yet. Trade fiction. Ghetto. Yeah. Poor boy's over his head already.
[01:53:27] Unknown:
Well, I believe if you search for Schroeder, s c h r o d e r, s c h r o d e r. You will also find the Eugene Schroeder, video. War and Emergency Powers. You will find the book new students.
[01:53:47] Unknown:
Don't know. That used to be new students. Start here. Yeah. It is in new students.
[01:53:53] Unknown:
It is in new students, but it's also, I not only have a copy of the book, War and Emergency Powers, but I also have the m p three file, the Eugene Schroeder interview that we did when he was on this program, and you'll also find a copy of the m p four file, the video presentation.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
It's all up there. Docs. Expose the matrix. I wanna tell Austin what we're talking about is very important. Okay? He's a he's a veterinarian in Colorado. He's still with us. His name's doctor Eugene Schroeder. Thirty one or two years ago, him and the nine other people did an intense research thing on this bankruptcy thing. And they produced this work, the Warren Emergency Powers Act. And that is the foundation that we build on. And if you had any doubts that there was a bankruptcy, they show you 85 exhibits in that two hours. It's extremely important. K?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
Wow. I just gave you the drink out of the fire hose.
[01:54:58] Unknown:
Yeah. You did. Now there was who's who's the female? It was Lisa. Lisa was trying to ask him something. One one of our fire girls is gonna come to the rescue. Well, Lisa, what were you trying to get to Austin? That it was that that, Eugene Schroeder trading with the enemies act because that's very vital and understanding. Are we at the end of the show? Yeah. Bruce, twenty seconds.
[01:55:20] Unknown:
Roger, I kinda question you about what started the civil war, and now I realize that the people in Abbeville found that out, what you were telling about the Civil War. And they wrote a document to concede from the nation
[01:55:36] Unknown:
because of that reason. Wow. And I realize that now. Cool. Well, Bruce, one of our listeners who's from Abbeville, South Carolina, where a lot of that stuff started, with the civil war anyway. Thank you, Bruce. Austin, we can continue. The show's over. We're not on the air now, but we can certainly continue to have our discussion today if you choose. If we hadn't just absolutely flat ass overwhelmed you. Let me tell you, this is this is not an event. It's a process. The event was when you Julie told you this, and it sparked your interest. The rest of the time you're dealing with it, it's gonna be a process because I'm gonna tell you, I've been immersed in it for thirty three years this this month, and I've still learned things I didn't know. Like, that this is, I think, the back, the reason for the civil war.
Nobody's ever come up with that before except maybe Bruce's people. Now I'll shut up for a second. Yes, sir.
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But when I go, we have trouble with Spectrum, we can use this phone.
[01:56:38] Unknown:
Hold it. Chris, are you talking to us?
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About what we talked about last night, Rodney McKinney
[01:56:45] Unknown:
helping to get this, diesel bus out of the road. I hey, Roger. Yeah. Hey, Bob. I think Chris is still off on that other conversation. Hey, buddy. This is one of our old time listeners here, Austin. Bob, he's down in he's down around Alligator, Alcatraz.
[01:57:01] Unknown:
Not too far. In fact, I'm even closer right now than where I live. I'm down we're There you go. Closer to hey, Austin. Welcome. Several items since I think you've got your browser open and have sweet fingers. Check out 28 USC fort sorry. 28 USC seventeen forty six. Unsworn declarations under penalty of perjury called a jurat. It's the most shining example of an admission or claim of the difference between or or showing a difference in law, that's in air quotes, in the statute, in the code of the difference between The United States and The United States Of America.
I'll let you read it. You've got that down, I'm sure, 28 USC seventeen forty six. Yeah. Good example. Also, also and I was away for a few minutes. Roger may have already gone over this, but, do you go over CFR 26?
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I didn't get to that point yet. We ran out of time.
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But we we're gonna do it with the 1.1
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dash one a, and it will show you that if you're not a citizen on a resident, you're not liable for income tax. Oh, it's the big thing I wanna tell you, Bob O'Malley. For tax, but only two but only two that are constitutional. You're subject to them, but you probably won't. Well, you might be. Who knows? But regardless, they're constitutional. Pay them. No big deal, but not income tax. And one other item, Roger. Yep. And that would be 11 or sorry. Eight CFR. Sorry. 88 USC 11 o one, eight USC 11 o one, a twenty and twenty one. And it will show you the difference between, in the code, a state citizen, which is a national, and a non state citizen.
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Yeah.
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Right there in the code. See right here.
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Oh, awesome. All of those are probably in the matrix stocks, etcetera, etcetera. I'm only pointing you to those three because those three in my mind
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put
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a bow on the whole thing. When you do understand that they are aware and have it in the code, that The United States, United States Of America are not the same, and most people roll their eyes and say, oh, that's just patriot pathology. No. It's right there in the code. When you understand that this is who owes the income tax and others don't, and it's right there in the code. And when you understand, what was the third one? Who's a resident and who's a state citizen, also known as a private individual, as Mirca put out. When you see those three brought out in stark contrast to the pink cloud, it just gives validity and certitude to the whole thing,
[02:00:14] Unknown:
and I rest my case. That's something for what Bob shared, Roger. Do what now? He that code the seventeen forty six code that Bob shared, I like, that's one of my favorite codes. Yeah. And I noticed before right. Right. That's what I was gonna say. I noticed before, you know, before I even learned anything about this, that there I mean, there was I didn't know there was a difference. And they sometimes the notaries don't ask you. So then when you do learn about it, you say, you know, we're doing this affidavit notarizing this affidavit without
[02:00:55] Unknown:
The United States. They don't want it. That's kinda awesome too. Notaries are somebody that goes to a state and gets this notary and this seal. Right. And all they are there to do is to verify and witness that the person signing the document is the person they say they are and have identification. That's their only function. They don't have to be lawyers. They don't need to be lawyers. In fact, they shouldn't be given legal advice. Okay? So that's all they do. Right. Alright. Now, Austin. Yeah. They don't ask you if if you want it with or without.
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So it's up to us to do that. And one more code for him. One of my other another favorite one is 8 Just what he needs. Another favorite one is that the eight USC 11 O13, that one says that we are alien to The United States.
[02:01:48] Unknown:
And so even though we're in the country, we're alien to the federal government. Your state government's alien to the federal government. Now, Austin, I'm gonna double back. I want Bob said something real important about this 26 CFR. That's code of federal regulations. Those are the, the Bibles, the guidebooks for the agencies. That's where they promulgate regulations. So let me explain to you what's going on here because I'll bet you don't know or don't understand the at to this level. We elect representatives. We send them to Washington.
They meet and pass laws, and, they're supposed to be representing us. You know? And, oh, I got stuff going on here. So, what happens after that, because we're in this bankruptcy, the congress, according to Jim Trafficante, is actually trustees over the bankruptcy, But they pass the laws. And then once they've passed the laws and they're signed by the president, they go into, there's three different law books, sets of law books in the law library. They go into the first one. And then they're shuffled over according to subject matter. Like, if it's something to do with environment stuff, then whatever the legislation is will be transferred over to the EPA, Environmental Protection Agency.
They will read the legislation, evaluate it, and then reinterpret it into what is called public policy. I'm sure you've heard that phrase. Public policy is man made bureaucrat laws for the served class. That's what it is. So they come in and totally regurgitate this legislation. Used to be in any direction because the agencies were considered authorities. They that just recently changed last session of the, Supreme Court. The Chevron, thing they call it. Right? Well, that's what that overturned is the ability of the agency to wide rangingly reinterpret these these, regulations.
And so then they publish them. There's a specific protocol of that. I'm not gonna go over that with you now. You can be exposed to that later. And then they publish them in what's called the legal organ of the federal government. That's the federal register. And after certain procedures, they take effect. Okay? But only on the serfs, except for those two real weird rare exceptions that we're gonna cover in just a second. But what this does is it nullifies the jurisdiction of all federal agencies over you. Does that sound like something you might wanna look into, Austin?
[02:04:35] Unknown:
Yeah. I could definitely give that a a look here. Okay. Well, then let we'll let lot of stuff to to get to today, though. Yeah. Oh, you gotta take off. Do wanna apologize to you guys if I'm cutting this. Yeah. I I I do wanna apologize, but I didn't wanna be rude at the same time. But But I do appreciate everything that you guys have, have brought to light for me here. Okay. A lot of these links are gonna be in the website. A few, I'm not too sure about, but I have the tabs open still, so I wanna have to write those down. Uh-huh. But other than that, all you guys have been very helpful. And, yeah, I'm gonna definitely tune in next week and, interested to see what else we can uncover here Okay. Well if I may.
[02:05:16] Unknown:
Okay. Real quickly. Quickly, Austin. If if if you're a Christian, I would recommend the book of the hundreds, giving you a a Christian Book of the hundreds. Standpoint of where this country was, what it did, and how we got where we are.
[02:05:32] Unknown:
Real real quickly on the matrix docs, you'll see Radio Ranch archives and a question mark and the word here. If you click on that, it'll go to the episodes page of the archives. And if you click on the title of today's show, you will find tabs on that page for the transcript, the show notes, and the chapters. This program will be separated into chapters by AI, so you can go straight to whatever you want to refer to, like the information that Bob gave and the information that Merka gave and Roger gave. It'll all be right there. So you can very quickly go right to the right spot and review it. And I I was I haven't even gotten a hold of this. This is very handy.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
I haven't even gotten to the real crux, which which I will get to at another time, which is their their jurisdictional statement on the tax issue. And I wanted to say that in there is shows you their deceptiveness. And that is one of the things that really kept me going all these years to find an answer is the link they went to in that one particular instance to hide this free status. They call it a nonresident alien, and we'll go into that at another time. Okay? But that's where you found it. I I just thank God that John Benson was my law teacher because these things are all the things that he taught us. I took it, stood on their shoulders, and found the ultimate answer.
What you've been presented with today is the result of over one hundred years of historical and legal research in three men's lives. Please don't take it lightly.
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Right. Mhmm. Absolutely.
[02:07:30] Unknown:
Alright. Well, we'll see you sometime soon then. You got any questions? You've reached Julie. You can come back on here. If you really have a burning question, you can probably dial back in, and there more than likely be people on this channel sometimes in the middle of the night. So, so all that's up here, Austin. And, if not, we'll hopefully see you, real soon. Go at my Roger. Video that I wish you'd watch is called God's Trump card. That was with this guy, badass uncle Sam. And I I think that's probably the best and most effective interview I've done in all these years. Now you you're not gonna go yet because Larry wants to talk to you. Yeah. I was just going to clarify something.
[02:08:16] Unknown:
You've assigned me a homework, some homework to study the life and political career of Louis t McFadden. Yes. And, he yeah. I'm staying in Northeast Pennsylvania, but when he was alive, his his district was located in Southwestern Pennsylvania. Oh. So Pennsylvania is like a big rectangle. Yes. And he would be down at the western corner. Pittsburgh.
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Closer to Pittsburgh.
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Yeah.
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So I got his, I got his counties here. He was by the way, he was elected four times and he died after his reelection. So he was in the Fourteenth Congressional District. Of poisoned
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at the Waldorf Astoria on the fourth attempt. Go ahead.
[02:09:11] Unknown:
Yeah. So he was elected four times, and it his political career started in 1914, and then it ended in 1920. So he was a member of the Fourteenth Congressional District, and that includes the counties of Fayette County, Greene County, and Washington County, and most of Indiana, Westmoreland, and Somerset Counties. And so, like I said, he was reelected four times and then after his fourth election, they they re they did this redistricting and so it became the Fifteenth Congressional District.
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Yep. Anyway, but I'll ask
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you he's just giving that to us. You go on about your way if you got things to do, and we'll we we really glad to have you. And and hopefully, we'll look real forward to the next time we get to speak with you again. Is that fair? Yes. And the pleasure is all mine. You guys have a blessed weekend. Thank you for letting me take a part in this. Amigo. We do it six days a week. We'll see you soon.
[02:10:19] Unknown:
What a delight. Julie. Julie, thank you so much for bringing us this very, well adjusted, wholesome young man. God, I love you. Amazing. I had an amazing conversation with him yesterday over the phone, and I said, I'm begging you. Please come on the call tomorrow. I know the number by heart. I said, just please, I'm begging you. I said, you're in a perfect position right now to get out from underneath slavery, and we'll show you how to do this, and you can't, they can't bust you. They can't do anything to negate this. So we have Nope. We have lawyers. We have amazing people that write rebuttal letters if you get any of these, you know, bluff letters from the IRS. And I said and I just it was well, we had a great conversation. I I, he called yesterday. I wish he didn't come on your show to plug his, medals, but maybe next time when he's on live on Saturday, if anybody's looking to get any medals, I told him maybe if we have a group of enough people that are still wanna purchase that you could give us a discount because you're talking to a big group of people on the show. And so, you know, we didn't talk about that, but maybe next Saturday, he can.
But come on here to plug his show. I'll just let you know that I found it funny because I was like, oh my god. Metals. That's Roger. Yeah. Well, I would love for him to be able to plug his, his availability in that area because I think everybody
[02:11:37] Unknown:
could sense you're dealing with an honest guy. So, and I wanted to just you know, you you give we could talk we could've kept him on this phone for six to eight hours. Well, I told him that. I said you'll you could end up being on this,
[02:11:51] Unknown:
show and not work for a whole entire week, take a vacation and just be on the or on your sales show. And you still have questions after the week.
[02:12:01] Unknown:
Well,
[02:12:02] Unknown:
I'm sure the last came on. I told people before. Everywhere I go, I tell people I've got shirts out with the matrix docs on it. I say, why are you paying taxes? I do custom t shirts. And, I have I have just nasty government shirts that I wear everywhere, and I get stopped by people. And I tell them the number all the time, and I tell them to please get on, and I'm so happy he came on this time. Myself.
[02:12:25] Unknown:
I'm just not good at it. K? That's why I gotta have secondhand people, do it because you're much more effective. It's much more effective on whoever you're talking to. Now I've thought quite a bit, and next week, we're gonna give him a couple of days to calm down here. But, get a schedule back if possible. But we're gonna start a program on one Chase Geyser at, infowars.com and Harrison Smith. And I think we can get to Harrison through Chase. They're good friends. And I think that this may be what we've been looking for. Now the other side of the coin is, look at all this Epstein and other shit built in.
Holy crap. Trump has really stepped in it right here. And he's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't. And you can see the control over him, and the base wants answers. They're even going out to media outlets and saying, if you don't quit covering this, we're not gonna give you access, you know, the reverse blackmail shit and all that. They are freaked out about this, and it just keeps coming out and it's gonna keep coming out, I e. Did anybody see the fourth hour of Owen sitting in for Alex yesterday and the twenty minutes with the with the victim? I did.
[02:13:46] Unknown:
Yes. I did, Roger. And, also, can I just please add to that? Everybody needs to get on before it's news.com. And there's two amazing interviews. One is one with Benjamin Fulford. He I know he's controversial, but he's like, that's not the Trump that we saw in 2020 or 2021. He said there's been a coup over the government that's a clone. It's very interesting. And then there's another interview with Kim Goygan. I'm not a fan of hers, but the one she just posted is extremely interesting. It's about the one world order, the one world government, and the fight that is ensuing between Trump and Musk, because Musk was promised that his Doge would become an actual department in our fake government, but he was also promised to, for him to be head of the world government along with the United Nations. So Julie, did you say
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Goygen?
[02:14:45] Unknown:
Goygen, g u o y g g u e n or something. You can't miss her last name. Her name first name is Goygen. Okay.
[02:14:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Can we can we say pronounce her name. Can we can we can we say Gefelte fish?
[02:15:02] Unknown:
I think her name is actually Guggen.
[02:15:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Like Googanheim. Googan. Like the Googanheim Museum or something, maybe. Yeah. It's another branch of a branch of the tribe, folks. A branch of the tribe.
[02:15:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Kim Googan. She's, I don't know.
[02:15:21] Unknown:
Hi, Candy. I know who she is. I say the same thing, Paul. She said you were like, I'm not watching her, but something God told me to watch her today, and I watched her. And I was like, this is the most interesting interview I've ever you know, podcast I've ever heard her and the most interesting statements I've ever heard come out of her mouth before. So I was blown away by it. So, you know, I love the Fort Snooze, you guys, because that site is an aggregator, and it ranks the top 50 sites, which buy the most viewed. And so, yeah, some of them, like, the number one is, what's his name?
The metals guy who transported all of the gold for all of the elites or whatever. Charlie Ward. I'm not a fan of his. His video is number one on before it snooze. And so but, you know, to each his own. What I like is that you know who's viewing what, and and some of the interviews are just incredible. So I yield.
[02:16:20] Unknown:
Oh, you people are so wonderful.
[02:16:24] Unknown:
I wanna go back and get Roger, don't forget. Don't forget. I'm sorry to I'm I'm I'm unyielding. Don't forget you're on, confirmed this I know next Wednesday. I got it. I got it. I wanna send all the links to Paul ahead of time so that if you have issues, we this doesn't happen again, and you get your two hours with Kevin. Okay. Great. Well, we I'll look forward to talking with him.
[02:16:50] Unknown:
I forgot where I was going. All this stuff, the the fourth, segment of Alex with Owen hosting yesterday, if you have not seen it, We've only seen a couple of these girls ever interviewed. Well, this one did a twenty minute interview. She's a victim from, I guess, South Africa. Cute little brunette and, has a child now. She's scared to go outside of her front door. She was going over all the girls that have been killed, and and all that stuff. And she identifies this twice. At least, she said, Jeffrey told me he worked for CIA. K?
And she gave a description how they go all over the world, and they never give an advance warning to say pack your bags. We're going to Paris. Boom. Or whatever. And, it's worth watching. It's not going away. It very well may destroy the Trump presidency. It's certainly already his ratings have tanked. Between the Iran thing and this, they've tanked because they showed, oh, I forgot. The best, best pollster in the world, showed their latest results on that yesterday also. So it's a whiz bang of a week, folks, and unbelievable with the times we're living in.
They're caught right in the freaking corner. So here yes. Just second Joan. So as this continues to build, and it's gonna, and here we are underneath with our little information, and now we got what may be a possible access to a big platform through somebody that knows some of this already but doesn't know the, specifics. It's it is a good I'm not a betting man, but I sure feel good about it. And so next week, we'll, we'll we'll convene on that and initiate it. Yes, Joan.
[02:18:53] Unknown:
Roger, when you just said Jeffrey, did you mean Jeffrey Epstein?
[02:18:57] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
I think. Okay. Good. Thank you.
[02:19:02] Unknown:
Yeah. This this Epstein thing, it ain't going away. And now with all these other pieces and them going out to media and say, don't talk about this. We won't let you have access to the White House. And Owen Stroyer, god bless him, said, I will not do that and puts this girl on the air and does a couple hours on this Epstein Epstein thing this week. God bless you, Owen. K? See, this is the opposite of what I went through here in a much smaller scale is, people here stab me in the back. They'd rather go and believe all that shit. They don't wanna know the truth. So that's good. At least, I don't particularly like being around people that aren't truthful people, quite honestly. You know, totally truthful like we are here and know what we know. So, anyway, that's the way we're going. Anybody else have any questions for me? Great. Julie, I'm bringing Austin in. He'll, he'll I feel he'll be somewhat of a semiregular as much as he's able.
Okay. Anybody else got something for me? Because I gotta go pee.
[02:20:10] Unknown:
Roger. Roger, thank you. You're the best. And everybody else in this room, you're the best. I've learned from all of you, and I'm gonna just keep on trying to get the word out there and get more students for you. So God bless everybody, and I hope everybody has a nice weekend. Listen. If we can get on one of these big
[02:20:27] Unknown:
person. Yeah. Of of of fifth you know, even a a really hot Alex Jones show on one of these topics probably get more than 50,000,000 extended looking at archives and stuff, passing it around, etcetera. So of, let's say, 50,000,000 people, how many folks in that audience do you think would want to follow-up and possibly go through this? A bunch is my feeling. K? I thought that about Jeffrey. I thought it about Rents. I was wrong. But about this his audience, we might could pull these back. With everything else that's going on, the timing on this, if con if merged with all this other shit, especially Epstein, we could take these bastards down, folks.
[02:21:13] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yes. I wanted to just, recommend something to you. And this is just based on me and my personal experience because keep in mind, I found you forced. You're forced on the chain. So the first person I found online about all this stuff was Anna Von Wright. The second one was Bobby Lawrence. The third one was David Strait, and I was so confused, and I did nothing. I think when you are on these shows, you should tell them that your your system and your methodology doesn't have anything to do with those three. It's totally different, and it's way simpler, and it's a one page affidavit. And that will pique everybody's interest because a lot of people have heard from this, and they're afraid to do it because they've been exposed to those wrong, those wrong educational systems from those three people. That's just my only recommendation to you. Could somebody say, oh, it's another national thing, and that these people ended up in jail, blah blah blah. That's what I was And it's free.
Yeah. Rob is not p a y for you. And you need to say it's free and that you and I think you should add what you said to Austin. Not once have we ever been has anything been garnished or seized or levied from somebody
[02:22:27] Unknown:
using your system. That's what I would say. I feel I I do try and get those things in. Each conversation is kinda unique. I don't necessarily have a canned version, but yet I have a general outline version I try and follow depending on who you're talking to. Who else was saying something there besides Julie?
[02:22:46] Unknown:
I have a comment. I have a comment. Okay. Do you hear me? I do. Yes. This is Shane. I know exactly who it is. Yes. Hello, Shane. It's Shane. Yes. Hey. I have a question in regards to your, books. Best thing to do is get the books out there. Do you have a a printer for the particular books
[02:23:08] Unknown:
Not right now. For selling this? Now, Shane. I used to.
[02:23:13] Unknown:
I have.
[02:23:14] Unknown:
I believe people that I was with were, I don't know. They weren't they weren't satisfactory. Shane, can you listen for a second? Yes. That's them. It's not there anymore. And I haven't put it up on a new one yet, but I need to, and I will. Stay tuned. Okay? Otherwise, the PDFs out there found one. What you Yes. You found what? Somebody that's selling my printed book? Found that.
[02:23:40] Unknown:
No. It's called, I'm willing to go with, ebooks Visionary Publishing. It's called [email protected].
[02:23:56] Unknown:
Okay. Well, send it to me in an email. Look into it? Well, you send it to me in an email. When it comes time, the problem is I don't have a cover for it. I've got the book. I don't have the damn cover. And I I I'm not sure where it was, and I gotta have probably have somebody draw one up like Sketch, who's one of our regular guys, used to hang around here. I just just haven't gotten to it yet. Alright. Anyway, the PDF's out there. So good to hear from you. I hope you're doing well. Okay? Okay. So anybody else? I hadn't heard from Shane Virtue. And, actually, Shane's the one that opened the door for us confronting the IRS.
So, not just an average old listener from the past. He initiated all that. Now it's the letter that's on the website that I wrote him back was for Shane. And you've never heard from him, have you? Of course not. So, anyway, get interesting to hear your voice, Shane. He lives right down the street from Athens. Alright. Good. It's been years. Yep. Okay. Anybody else got something for me?
[02:25:02] Unknown:
Raj, if I can get a physical copy of Sovereign to Surf, I can scan the existing cover in high definition.
[02:25:14] Unknown:
Okay. Well, somebody that's got a I've got a written copy of it. I don't know how the hell I'd get it up there in Ecuador. Says, anybody here have a copy of the book? I do. Of the You who do? Who who does? I do.
[02:25:27] Unknown:
Oh. Paul knows where.
[02:25:29] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:25:30] Unknown:
Who who Okay. Was that Rick?
[02:25:33] Unknown:
If I That's Andy. If I can, if I can get a physical copy of the book, I can scan the front cover, back cover, and the spine, and we can make it happen.
[02:25:45] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then we'll move forward. Somebody else sent me a a possible vendor. Send me that in email, Shane. The book Tree, as Lauren sent. So she evidently knows the guy that runs it or something. I hadn't investigated it yet, but I know it's there. So maybe we could pull this together. So thanks for asking about it, Shane. Yeah. I I have the I ISBN number. Okay. Well, we'll get it. It's on it's on the one, that, that Alan has. K? Thank you, Shane. Thank you, buddy.
[02:26:15] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger.
[02:26:17] Unknown:
Alright. Well, you're certainly welcome. So, who else? Shane's an interesting character. Blessings, Roger. And there's Sketch. Sketch. Hey, Sketch. Well, you sound exceptionally you sound exceptionally good today. Your little speaker phone is sounds very clear. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, thank you. And I yep. So, alright. Well I'm I'm
[02:26:42] Unknown:
I just wanted to say I'm still here.
[02:26:44] Unknown:
Okay. Good to hear you, buddy. I wondered about you. And Mark Mark comes with us today, and then I totally this Austin thing totally, took us another direction. He's probably left by now. Have you, Argh?
[02:26:56] Unknown:
No. He had to, he had something come up, and he had to Uh-huh. Duck out almost an hour ago. So he he will hopefully be here Wednesday.
[02:27:06] Unknown:
Well, yeah, hopefully, he's got his plate full. God bless him. So, anyway, that's where we are. Again, anybody with any, final stuff for me, or I'm gonna go have an abbreviated weekend here. Alright. Well, I'll see y'all, hopefully, bright and early Monday morning. We'll see what the Epstein story develops over the weekend. It it is explosive, folks, and it ain't gonna nowhere near go away, and it's only gonna get bigger. Trump is in the vice right now.
[02:27:36] Unknown:
Alright. I'll see y'all Monday. We'll see what happens. Yes, sir. Have a have a good day and a half of your weekend.
[02:27:43] Unknown:
There you go. Thank you, Bruce. That's about what it is. I will. Clouds are already moving in now. Hey. Hey. Yes, ma'am. Roger, real quick too. I heard a a a
[02:27:53] Unknown:
a take it for what it is. You know, this is Lisa. Trump not releasing that? Well, now he's holding the blackmail card over all these people, isn't he?
[02:28:04] Unknown:
Yes. It's a really interesting situation. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't, it appears. So we'll be part of it. We may you see, it's that's why this thing you know, God and his timing, and and this comment by Chase sitting in for Harrison on vacation, that tells me he knows a little bit about this, but he doesn't know what we know and that he's a open minded guy. I know Harrison is, and we got a shot at getting this information on that network. We do. Uh-huh. Yes. Yes, Julie.
[02:28:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to say on that, before news interview with Kim Goygan. She she has explosive stuff she states. She says that after these people all get into their positions, and I think even Ben Fulford said this today too, after all these people who are of of significance in significant importance in any of these cabinet positions. After they get selected, all of the, blackmail and all of the evidence that they have on these people is shown to them, and they are told you will do, and vote as we say. So I just yield there. It's getting this movie is really honestly becoming, a nightmare movie, but it's getting so interesting with all the twists and turns. And by the way, on Telegram, I don't know if it's CGI, there is a video of Epstein escaping from the prison and him running out into a back alley into a black SUV with dark windows in it. And everybody, all these people, including Virginia Giuffre, has stated that, he didn't die, and he is a Mossad and a CIA asset. He works for both, and that she believes he's living in Israel right now.
[02:29:53] Unknown:
I yield up. Wouldn't surprise me one little bit. There's nothing that you can these people are most deceptive sneaky some bitches that have ever walked the earth. So, let's see. Now was there some of the another gal that was trying to say something when Julie's talking? Trump Trump bit off more than he can chew.
[02:30:12] Unknown:
Uh-oh.
[02:30:14] Unknown:
I it would appear so, Joan. And the thing some of the things that he's doing, he just in the last day or two, like, something in endorsing Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton. And Tom Cotton is right now trying to formulate a bill that is going to totally, gut Tulsi Gabbard's power and switch all that power back to the CIA. So Trump's Trump's just right in bed with him. You know? I'm shocked. I'm just shocked. We'll see how it develops. I tell you, man, after what Roger. After what Jack Abercrombie did to me this week, it shouldn't it shouldn't shock anything anybody do to you. Yes.
[02:30:55] Unknown:
Yeah. So if you, review the videotape, there's a minute and I think two seconds missing. And when the, when the when the missing minute expires and the video resumes, it shrinks just a little bit. And then in the upper right hand corner of the video, you could see editing software cutoff. What it appears to be editing software. Oh, yeah. So that whole thing was tampered with. Yep. No doubt. Yep. No doubt. I heard somebody else going into some depth on that.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they're just scared as shit. They're having to try and put this stuff in front of you, and the people are too aware, and they're too sharp. And, they're they're not gonna be able to pull this, over anybody's eyes. I don't believe. But, boy, it is gonna be interesting to watch. The bigger it gets, the more impact we could have with our information coming in on the side. Say a prayer. K. Maybe what, is this isn't God's timing. It's not mine. All I'm supposed to do, I guess, is keep doing what I'm doing, trying to get the best I can at it, and be ready when one of these types of situations present themselves. And, boy, would I go absolutely nuts. I'd be so happy.
We'll see, folks. Have a great weekend and a half. And, Larry, you gotta be back to work on Monday, don't you?
[02:32:18] Unknown:
I'm flying back to Florida on Monday, and then I go back to work on Wednesday.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, be safe. Hope you've enjoyed your vacation. And, we'll see all y'all Monday. God willing and shit doesn't happen. Okay? So no other questions? Yeah. I just love each and every one of you, really. Especially now, I mean, you know, I knew it before, of course, but, boy, in the last couple of days is that brought home on who you can trust and who you can't. And I I I just wanna be around people I can be honest with that see the truth, want it, and and that we can communicate.
[02:32:55] Unknown:
And, it's just, boy, it's been a shocker for me this week. I mean, really. I appreciate it. Be blessed, Sawyer. Be blessed. Be blessed. And I'm happy that you could see the light. I am, ladies
[02:33:06] Unknown:
and gentlemen. I got all you folks here. We got the truth. We got we got the biggest son of a bitch, baddest bastard ever walked the earth. We got him right by the nuts? Oh, what a fabulous that's what makes me have so much hubris and be able to say, look who's doing this. Here's how they're doing it. And people don't wanna hear it. They'll hate you for it. K? They do not wanna know the truth about the world they they think they live in. So I can't help them overcome that. I'm not don't wanna alienate them, but they take an alienation approach because they don't wanna hear about it. So, you know, don't shoot the messenger, boys. Right. Their father is the devil, right, their father is the devil. That's why they don't believe in the truth. And these people that are Gentiles, they're not even Jews that are the they're defending all this stuff and and all this slander and shit on me. They're they're just proselytites.
It's they're over here defending this propaganda that these monsters have for however put in their their brains. It's a hell of a situation, man. The deeper into it, the more mystified I am with it at times. So it's been an interesting week, exposed an awful lot, and, we'll see. The waters may may edge over down the road. These guys are gonna fall. There ain't no way they're not gonna get exposed. And they've got so much going. They're so evil. Ukraine, Israel and Iran, all the crap going on in The US, all the Epstein stuff, one after one after one.
And, Trump is going to be, in essence, unable to govern because he's trying to take care of all these fires and put them out. It's my my feeling. So, anyway, we're we're in the middle of it. We'll all live through it. I'll, unless somebody's got something for me, I'm gonna take off. I have one more thing for you.
[02:35:09] Unknown:
I looked up both of the, the links on book publishing. The booktree.com, we specialize in metaphysical, spiritual, and controversial books from San Diego, California. Kinda looks like they're I don't know. They might be a little too woo woo for for the the subject matter of your book. But the other one that Shane brought up, ebookvisionarypublishing.us. That looks very interesting. They look like a a full service, book publishing. They, let's see. They, grammar and style checks keep it consistent. Consistency across chapters because flow matters. Fact checking for your for accuracy because details matter. Formatting for Amazon ebooks and beyond, and, how how they make your book shine. They polish it up, design stops to scroll, formatting that just feels right, ISBN ISBN copyright and illegal stuff. They handle all the registrations.
They print it, publish it, and sell it, and they market it because readers won't just find your book. I just sent you the links to both of those web pages in your email.
[02:36:36] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Paul. Also, I want I I have you know, Brent sends me all his stuff, Thursday stuff for years, and I've never listened to any of it, quite frankly. And I wanna listen to this one, and I went to look at what he sent. You gotta go on to Vimeo and and register and all kind of stuff. And it's hard for me to read on the I didn't have to.
[02:36:59] Unknown:
You did? I I didn't have to do that. All I did was just click on it, and it opened right up. So,
[02:37:07] Unknown:
Alright. Well, listen. After you get when you if you get a minute over this afternoon or tonight or tomorrow, if you get a hold of me somehow, and, I I'd if I can get some direction on that, I'd like to see if we could get that done and a couple other things I could have done stand to have done if you got time. I hate to infringe on you, but that's the way it is. So, anyway, if you do that, I'd appreciate it. I really wanna hear this. I might go back and fool with it again, but I got some kind of a page with all kinds of stuff on it.
[02:37:40] Unknown:
Well, what tone what what came up on mine was the the the you're not a spam bot certification. Yeah. And it's just a little box with a little spinning whirly gig, and then it turns into a check mark, and then you put a check mark in the box, and then it opens up the Vimeo page. That's the only thing I had to do to watch that. So I I was I was kinda dismayed that the video was on Vimeo because it's it's it's not a very user friendly platform, really, but it is what it is.
[02:38:23] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, John. Roger? Yeah. Uh-huh. It's Mer. Oh, Mer. We do sound a little alike. Yeah. I just wanted to add in here. I put the Chitango address in the, free conference call, and there's a couple articles. And I guess there'll be a follow-up third one. I don't know how many, but, they've come up with an interesting name. We're always looking for names. Well, the acronym is Jizz, j I c z. And it's depicting exactly what you might think Jizz is. But, anyway, it's Jewish Israeli zealous. I think it's pretty accurate. Another acronym.
[02:39:00] Unknown:
Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Murr. I'll, well, see problem. The problem is, Paul, I can't get ahold. I can't even call you like I could on Skype before. At least I can't from this end. I probably can. Just don't know how to do it.
[02:39:19] Unknown:
You should be able to call me. Well, I could just remote into the portable, and I can use the link that, Brent sent me
[02:39:32] Unknown:
and pop it up on the portable. I mean, you wouldn't be able to release Well, then I gotta I gotta transfer it over to the other desktop on the big monitor. So, well, you might could send it in an email. Yeah. I could probably I I just do that. I can send you what what I get from you. It wasn't just there's a whole bunch of Vimeo this, Vimeo that, sign in, and all kind of shit. And I just the page is with my eyesight, it's hard to read it and hard to deal with it. Okay? I gotta blow some some stuff up so big for me to read it that it isolates me from the rest of the page and a lot of the other context. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but that's the best way I can describe it. Okay. Alright.
[02:40:18] Unknown:
Okay. What is this? Weird. Okay. Too. I can,
[02:40:24] Unknown:
damn monkey on this shit, you bastards.
[02:40:28] Unknown:
Let me, let me try to send you a, a remote invitation so I can remote into your desktop. Alright. Then
[02:40:41] Unknown:
we should be able to get that. Through, Jitsi? You could do it through Jitsi too, share screens.
[02:40:47] Unknown:
Right. No. I what I would need to do is I would need to send you the link, launch it, and then figure out what you're seeing, And then, take the appropriate action. So Jesus. I'll send you I'll send you the invite.
[02:41:00] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'll see all all this damn technical shit. I'll see y'all on Monday. Love you.
[02:41:07] Unknown:
Okay. Alright.
[02:41:09] Unknown:
Ciao. Love you, bro.
[02:41:12] Unknown:
He bails. He he bails as soon as soon as he says ciao. His finger is on the mouse button. Let me see if I can actually get the remote software to work. I don't think I have the memory available to do that. Not launching. Anyway, guys, we're still on the air. If you wanna continue talking for a little while, I'll take the stream down in about ten minutes. Awesome.
[02:41:38] Unknown:
Hooray. Hooray for Julian Austin.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Hee haw. Right.
[02:41:46] Unknown:
You crack me up, Joan. Hee haw.
[02:41:51] Unknown:
Seemed like you used the California number.
[02:41:54] Unknown:
Explain this? Yeah. He's from Santa Monica.
[02:41:57] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
Do you have the number? If you can text it to me, that would be great.
[02:42:06] Unknown:
No. I don't have it. I just Okay. I was looking for who was calling
[02:42:17] Unknown:
You're rubber banding, Brent.
[02:42:21] Unknown:
Can you hear me now? Yeah. That's much better.
[02:42:24] Unknown:
Rubber banding. I don't think I've ever heard the term rubber banding.
[02:42:30] Unknown:
I just saw the number. I just saw the number, and then I noted the guy's name, and that's all. I didn't copy it or anything. I don't see it.
[02:42:46] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, he'll continue to come on when he can, and hopefully, he will do the paperwork.
[02:42:54] Unknown:
How old's the guy? 32. Oh, wow. And he does gold and silver.
[02:43:02] Unknown:
Yeah. He works for, is it American Hartford Gold? I think it's American Hartford Gold. What you said. Yeah. I have a question, on the towel's law of nations. I have the book. Does anybody know, what the what section of the book or what section of the law gives us the right to self determination?
[02:43:38] Unknown:
Does anybody have that section handy? I I find it, but I don't think that exact verbiage has been, found in there. I think what that where that phrase comes from is the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Okay. You're right. I think that quote was taken from
[02:44:00] Unknown:
Do you know where that is? I'm Do you know where that is? At all, but you could probably Google Universal Declaration of Human Rights
[02:44:07] Unknown:
and maybe It's clear. Get a copy of it. Beginning. It's right at the beginning. Hold on.
[02:44:17] Unknown:
That was that was somebody that had, the chapter she's
[02:44:27] Unknown:
not on here, though.
[02:44:29] Unknown:
Lisa Hedden.
[02:44:31] Unknown:
Oh, Lisa. Lisa, do you have it? Pretty, please. You might not be here still.
[02:44:36] Unknown:
No. She just Googled it or looked at, you know, use search engine, look it up. Thanks, Bruce.
[02:44:42] Unknown:
Just look up self determination and bible quote. It's loaded.
[02:44:46] Unknown:
Thank
[02:44:50] Unknown:
you. By the way, I was sort of at the end there, Julie, with, Austin, if you might remind him if he's a Christian, that book of the hundreds. Yep. I I heard you. Yeah. Might be some of value to him. Lots and lots and lots of, footnotes in there, and it has a lot to do a lot to do with case law, but that case law usually comes back to Christianity.
[02:45:22] Unknown:
And that was Rick, not Bruce, Julie.
[02:45:26] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. They sound the same, the same voice. I always I don't know what it is about me. I always get Sam Uell mixed up with sketch. Well, I think it's a geographic thing because
[02:45:39] Unknown:
both, because both Bruce and Rick are not so far away. They're in the Southeastern, part of the country. And if and you go over to the Left Coast, that's where Samuel and Sketch are at. They're over there.
[02:46:00] Unknown:
You know what? I'm getting better, but they just sounded so alike. I was like, who is this? Are you Sketch or are you Sam u l?
[02:46:07] Unknown:
I think it's geographic, really.
[02:46:12] Unknown:
I think it's where they reside.
[02:46:15] Unknown:
Oh, good lord. Don't give us that residence thing again.
[02:46:26] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
Paul, this is this is Rich in Huntsville. Can you hear me?
[02:46:33] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:36] Unknown:
Hey. Did did you ever, get an opportunity to download that, that, book, America throw off the yoke?
[02:46:49] Unknown:
No. I think I actually had to buy a physical copy of it.
[02:46:53] Unknown:
Yeah. You told me it was $600. I'm I'm like I'm like, oh my god.
[02:47:01] Unknown:
No. I think I bought a copy of it, but I didn't pay that for it. There's no way I would ever pay that much for a book. And it's not that big. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be scannable. I just don't have the time to do it.
[02:47:17] Unknown:
Okay. Because, yeah, I was, a long time ago, I think I might have mentioned it, when I, when I was in the service over in Germany, it was in 1987 period. I I had a craving to go over to Czechoslovakia, to Prague. I wanted to go to Prague. So I didn't have a passport because I was I was overseas as a soldier, so we didn't have passports. We just had the, sofa agreement cards, which is basically basically our ID cards. But, anyway, I read that, my my father had given me that that book, America Throw Off the Yoke. And I when I was reading, and it was it was differentiating, the, difference between Washington DC and, citizenship and the, several states. So when I filled out my passport, overseas in Europe, there was that, 28, USC, seventeen forty six, I believe it was, that I remember looking at. And based upon that America threw off the yoke, I checked without The United States.
So, yeah. I got my passport. I went to Prague. And, then years later, I I hear, you know, Roger talking about, this and then that that form, it reminded me of that form. So I've I've actually filled up that form back in '87 without The United States. So I noticed that also when I came back to The States, and I had transitioned out of the military and I became a civilian over there working for the, working for the government. When I got back to The States here in Huntsville, I remember they somebody, told me that I had to I had to fill out a a a another form, and I was told that I had to put with, with The United States where I couldn't, remain employed.
So I did that. And and then I hear Roger talking about it, and I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, it's like ping pong, within, without, within, without. So, I'm without again. But, yeah. I just wanted to say that they, emphasized me do within The United States when I got back to The States or I wouldn't be able to be employed.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
I yield I had another guy that had that situation before also. Roger told the story about what they whipped him in that office so quick it put his neck snapped.
[02:50:50] Unknown:
And there's and, also, for any of you folks out there in California, which, which is where I started, I began, my my, basically, my life out there in San Diego. There's a guy. He's an attorney. He's a he's a lawyer in, Los Angeles. And I saw some videos on YouTube about ten years ago of him fighting him fighting the judicial system there in California because he's he was talking about how corrupt it was. His name is, Richard Fine. And, apparently, he they California, they forced him to, I I guess he spent about a year in jail or prison, and they let him out. But this guy, I mean, I've seen video of video footage of him, and, all of the people that were, you know, being exposed to what he was trying to expose the judicial system in California about that, yeah, that's the same thing that we're, we're trying to expose the matrix with the the the judicial system and how, how corrupt it is. But, I'm kinda curious if he's still, active and alive.
I haven't really seen anything looking looking about, on YouTube. But does anybody know if if if this Richard Fine attorney, out of LA, Hollywood? I I guess he apparently, he represented a lot of the, Hollywood folks, back in the day. But, yeah, he like I say, he went to jail for about a year. But he's he's, he had a following. I'm still curious if he's still active or a lot or alive because he he might have passed away for all I know. I yield.
[02:53:02] Unknown:
I know nothing. I'm in the Bay Area Of California.
[02:53:08] Unknown:
Fine and attorney is two strikes.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Yeah. It was That's a it was on YouTube. I think I might even send a link, to to you, Paul, a couple days ago.
[02:53:21] Unknown:
Okay. That's I found another term in the book of the hundreds that I wasn't aware of. It's called the right of avoidance, which basically means that you can use that to remove yourself from a contract where it wasn't disclosed properly, it was fraudulent, etcetera, etcetera. That's the first place I really looked into the, also the doctrine of necessity. The book is really loaded with I mean, I really need to read it all over again because there's just so much in there that boggles the mind. The footnotes alone, there's hundreds and hundreds of footnotes and a lot of case law.
[02:54:00] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce. Bruce, can you hear me?
[02:54:17] Unknown:
Yes. I can hear you. Hey, Bruce.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
What did you say to to Roger, today about, your hometown?
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. What?
[02:54:30] Unknown:
About the the that's why they succeed. What what did Roger had said that you said that's why?
[02:54:37] Unknown:
I was questioning in my mind what he was saying all along. And today, it really probably came through to me that they could they I didn't know the reason why they were, you know, writing the documents that's sustained from the nation. But now I think it was their intention before, and then this civil war came, and then they finally put it in the fourteenth, you know, amendment. It was true. You know? And they knew what was going on. John c Calhoun was fighting him. And when he was grew up in South Carolina, and also he was vice president. He was fighting when doing stuff like that. So, anyway, we raised the gun to go.
[02:55:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. And so you're saying they succeeded for what is that reason, though?
[02:55:33] Unknown:
I think they saw it coming. Saw what's it coming? What Roger was talking about.
[02:55:38] Unknown:
Fourteenth amendment. Right.
[02:55:43] Unknown:
And All this all the entities that they were doing was leading them into what Roger was talking about, and we we saw it because we had such a, you know, like, gym of a guy that put his cell phone line, you know, in in, you know, in in the scope of arguing with them, you know, thirty and forty years before the civil war started. He saw it coming
[02:56:13] Unknown:
So don't ask me now. Go ahead. Sorry. What?
[02:56:19] Unknown:
He saw the the thing that Roger was talking about. They was planning that years ago even before they did it.
[02:56:26] Unknown:
So so Abbeville Abbeville saw
[02:56:32] Unknown:
The people in Abbeville saw that what he was fighting for, Tennessee Calhoun.
[02:56:38] Unknown:
Oh, so which was what?
[02:56:41] Unknown:
It was a he was representing South Carolina in in Washington, and also he was vice president.
[02:56:48] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And so he was fighting for states. Right? Or I mean, what was he fighting for?
[02:56:53] Unknown:
I can't understand. You got northern background.
[02:56:56] Unknown:
Okay. That's not from me.
[02:56:59] Unknown:
Somebody's hammering something. Okay, Nessa. I guess it's dead now. Go ahead.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
So so Abbeville people saw that John c Calhoun was fighting for states' rights or
[02:57:11] Unknown:
not Yes. They have a they have a college here in Huntsville, Alabama, John c Calhoun. It's a community college.
[02:57:20] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. We have a road named by him, John c Calhoun. Yep. We have a highway, John c Calhoun in, South Carolina.
[02:57:37] Unknown:
We gave him, let's see. His his father was a wagon train master.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Go
[02:57:44] Unknown:
go to Louisiana, the king's territory, and they the king gave him land in in the territory, and they went right at the border. I mean, at this at the, middle of the shoe, you'll see Abbeville, Missouri. I mean, not Missouri, Louisiana. And they had this the the shrimp festival, largest festival in the world, the shrimp Every year.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Bruce.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
Oh, you're welcome.
[02:58:19] Unknown:
Joan, are you back in, The USA, or are you still down down south? I'm still in Costa Rica
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Woo. Because I'm doing a house because I'm still doing a house renovation down here. It takes way longer here than in South Carolina.
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Wow.
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So you are you renovating the house yourself?
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Well, it's it feels like it feels like it. I mean, I have to be attend I have to be attentive to every detail or it can go wrong.
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How how far are you from the ocean? Two blocks. Oh my god. Any surf where you are? Any surfing?
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Famous for surfing here. Quite famous for surfing, fishing, yoga.
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Oh, wow.
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Hang not hang gliding. What do you zip lining? Horseback riding?
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So so so do you like it there, or are you, are you I guess you do if if if you're, if you're down there right now.
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Well, I'm I'm mainly here for the warm weather in the when it's wintertime in South Carolina.
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Uh-huh.
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I'm I'm here for that six months of winter, and then I go back to South Carolina for six months of summer. Usually, but not
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Not right now.
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And Joan, do you speak fluent Spanish? Hi.
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You know what? I would have under I apologize. Promise I promise I would have understand that understood that if my phone or somebody's connection didn't break
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up a couple of times.
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For real. I found that, I found that, YouTube, video or one of them that, I had brought up earlier about this Richard Fine, saved California taxpayers multimillion dollars fighting corruption. And, yeah, this this this Richard Fine guy, Yeah. He literally he went to prison, jail in California for a year, but he was a prominent, attorney. And he was he was exposing the, the corrupt, system and the judicial system that goes on in in California. And I I was just kinda curious if, anybody out there in California had had heard of them or or known about what he's been, what he had been trying to fight against there in California.
Because, you know, as I say, I grew up in San Diego, and my my father was, my father was in the, he worked for the San Diego chef, sheriff's department. And he, he worked in the, court system. He was a patrol officer. He worked jail, transporting prisoners. He did all of it. They they they rotate you, throughout the, law enforcement system. But, yeah, I remember my dad telling me that they, he used to he used to pass, pass out these, what were they called? I'm trying to remember what the title was. It was, informed citizens, on the judicial system. They were little little pamphlets, but, I I think that they they had, they they squash that, information.
And, this Richard Fine guy, I'm sure is part of that, informing the public about the the judicial system and the, fully informed jury association type, information. But this, this YouTube channel that it's called Richard Feidn save California taxpayers multimillion dollar dollars fighting corruption. And it's, by, it says PA voter information network. So that's the, I guess the person that probably put this out. But anyway, I I I yield.
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Yeah. Like I said, if you go to thank you for sharing that, by the way. If you go to YouTube, there's so many amazing videos of this attorney. He talks about how he knocks off the judges. He's exposing them. In fact, I think when one of the interviews he's interviewed by I'm not sure who. I'm not gonna say. I thought Alex Jones maybe. Anyway, he's talking about lawless America, and he, he's a former US, prosecutor, and he's also an expert on international law. He's been held in solitary, coercive confinement because he's exposing all the fraud. You guys ought to just go look up all the amazing videos about this guy on YouTube. I just typed in Richard Fine attorney, and I see all these amazing interviews. So it talks about his imprisonment, and it talks about, oh, it's just it's he he's a patriot. He's a he's an amazing man. Thank you for sharing that.
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Yeah. I'm just I Julie, this is Rich in Huntsville. I'm just curious if he's also still still with us because, the videos that I remember watching for are are from, like, ten years ago at least. And back then, I think he was, like, seven in his seventies. So he's probably in his eighties now, and I'm I'm hoping he's still alive and with us because, you know, I just heard Roger talk about Diane, Spengola, passed passed away, and I didn't know that. I used to listen to her every, every day, actually. So, I hope this this attorney, Richard Fine's still alive and with us, and fighting out there in California and and, get a hold of a second. I know that, he was freed from jail.
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I think that he was freed from jail on but he was 70 years old at the time, and it was 02/2010. So you're, he would be ninety, ninety five today. I don't think he's with us anymore.
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Can you put can y'all put it in the chat?
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I'm not on I'm not on, can somebody else do that? Because I'm only on my phone. I don't have, I'm on the FCC, app right now. If somebody can type that in, that would be great for me. Thank you.
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I've got it on my I've got it pulled up on YouTube, but I don't know how to share it in the chat.
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I'm, There's a there's a, there's a button, Rich, with that says share. You just hit, press on the button share, and then you can copy and paste, in the chat room.
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Yeah. I'm not, Yeah. I'm sorry, but I'm literally technically illiterate when it I'm not in the chat room or any I'm just on the phone and
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Okay. I'll just, I'll get on I'll get on FCC, and I'll post it there for you guys.
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Okay. Thank thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah. I hope you still have
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It it'd be good to have a middle initial and the spelling of the last name.
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The last name is Fine, f as in Frank, I n e, like fine wine or a fine steak meal.
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Middle initial?
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I don't have one. I just he's not listed with an initial. You can just type in Richard Fine, attorney, California.
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Yeah. He was a federal attorney, by the way. It's a pretty common name is all I'm saying.
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Yeah. He got, he was in he was on a quest to restore due process in the California judicial system, And he was only the only attorney of 208,000 California attorneys with the courage to challenge the California judiciary.
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That's what the abatement process does. It challenges it because it's unlawful.
[03:07:35] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, his middle initial is I as in Idaho. Attorney Richard I Fine.
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Okay. Thanks.
[03:07:46] Unknown:
Thank you. He was, he's never been convicted of a crime. He was jailed for following an attempt to disqualify judge David Piyafi from sitting on a case where he had accepted payments from a party on the case. And the fact that judge Yaffe refused to step down from the case and instead presided on the case where he himself was involved and then ordered fine to jail, has been verified by the judge's own court test testimony. So it's in it's all about the corruption.
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Hi, boys and girls. This this is Shane.
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Hi, Shane.
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Alright. Now I would like to know how to get on to, tango.com. I would like to know how, I can follow through with this, information and be presented rather than just words. I would like some how to get on to to tango. Is it shatango.com or to tango.fm?
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It's on the website.
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Dotcom or ..fmdot, .com? I'm not sure.
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The metricsdocs.com. Oh. Do you have anything?
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Yes. Fine Fine was thrown in jail in solitary confinement for fourteen months for contempt of court. He was never charged with anything else.
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These judges rule like little tin gods. Shane, the chat room is numeral two radioranch.chitango.com.
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Okay. 2radioranch.chatango.com.
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And Chatango is chat and go, c h a t a n g o.
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Chat and go. Chat and go. It's c h a t a n g o.
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Alright.
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Yeah.
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Two radio ranch dot chatango.
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Right. .Com.
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Thank you. Mhmm.
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Yeah. They frown on their club members breaking the rules.
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What happened to that judge? What happened to the judge that put that man in jail for fourteen months?
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What do you think? Nothing.
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That's what I thought. But Bruce had sure. You know?
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Well, Big Samper says the judge could do anything that court he wants to do short of, disturbing the peace. That's our due process according to Brent.
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Due due process.
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So isn't that why it's important for everybody to that that's that knows about those flim flam in the judicial system to, fill out an affidavit and file it in the county courthouse of their respective, jurisdictions?
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Well, of course, the first the first thing you do is you put it to secretary of state for it to have it meaning anywhere else. Right?
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Yeah. The we're talking. Yeah, correct. We're talking about federal, but then I'll see. That's what, that's what I did. That's what was my interpretation is is send that to affidavit that Roger Ed, wrote up and then, after you sent it to the secretary of state and, I, I got my, missus Robinson letter. But I went down. I went down and, filed it at the county Court courthouse. So if there's any kind of any kind of trouble that I run into, and I have to go to court, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him, like, what was it? Three days before you actually go to court, get in contact with the, what do they call it? The, the court the the clerk of that the clerk of the judge and and make sure that they get that filing that that you have at the county courthouse.
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Yeah. Roger, I think, it wanted us to send it to the district attorney and the AG and the sheriff. Those three were coming in.
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I think all I think that was also, saturated saturate everybody so there's there's no wiggle room for them. Yeah. I'm I'm currently trying to get mine,
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recorded in the land records, along with my affidavit and stuff. And then, when I do my notices, I'll let them know that it's sitting there as well, provided they record it, that is. You know?
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Yeah. I I remember years ago, people in the in the movement were talking about how you would also send the allodial title, I think, or anything for that matter. When you publish it in the local paper for, like, what is it, thirty days, and it doesn't get rebutted, then it stands as, you know, also law or, you know, evidence in a court. The only thing is, I guess, the newspaper kinda gone by the way of the dodo bird. So, I guess that would,
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yeah, I don't know if there's any newspapers at all. Gibson has you posted sixty, I think, one days in a public area, like a library, or you pick a spot that's public and you do it that way. And then you go record it at the county seat.
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Okay.
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Everybody's got these different I mean, I talked it over with my, my title guy, and he says, so if you get it recorded at the county level, that's all you need to do. You don't he says, when we transfer all these different properties for different people, there's no notice other than it's put in the county record, and everybody knows that's where you look if you wanna find out anything.
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Mhmm. Right. But what what but you got it folks out there, you gotta be careful because, when I I had to go I had to go to, court here a few months back, and, I went down to the county courthouse. I think it was a couple of days before I had to go to court, and I wanted to, I asked them. I said, do you have this, filing? And, they told me no. They couldn't find any filing. And, and then, I told them I told them I said, you gotta be kidding me. I filed I paid $25 for you to file this affidavit, and you can't find it. And I then I re then I told them I I said, I think it is being filed in, what they call, oh my gosh. What's the term?
It's it's a I can't think of the term now. I'm I'm having a a a dummy attack. It's it's like an accessory. It it it's the accessory file. It's it's not the main file. In other words, they put it at the back of the dagum file cabinet. Assume. Miscellaneous. Miscellaneous file. That's where they hit that's where they hit it. And I reminded them. I said, you need to take a look at the miscellaneous file. And, yeah, they they, then they then they came up and they, they said, okay. Yeah. We found it. And I said, could I could I, I would like a few more copies of that, by the way.
So they made a couple more copies and gave it to me so I can use it, you know, and prove that it had been filed at the county courthouse a couple years back.
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Yeah. That's the nice thing about it. It's been record corded in the land records is because then you're, getting a, of course, it will serve first be notarized, and then it it will be stamped by the recorder and then potentially mailed back to you as well with the address that you give them.
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Yep. That's right.
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So it's pretty hard to deny that doesn't exist or we can't find it. You know? That's that's the cool thing. It's even better than the paper of record, I think, but I am probably also gonna publish Gross's declaration of independence in the paper as he suggests. But I'm also trying to get a file that document in the land records.
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Well, you you being out you being out there in California. Yeah. No matter how much people talk about how rotten and bad that California has become, I still miss I still miss San Diego. And, you know, I I've I've traveled I've traveled the whole state. I mean, I've seen the whole state of California. And it's just a view it's a beautiful state. It's it's got the it's got so much variety to it. Unfortunately, all the, liberal liberal, Marxists, they all moved out to California back in the sixties.
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Well, you know, this this rot is in every state. You know, they've
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it's
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and and and one thing, you know, when Murka submitted her, paperwork to the AG, they they said we, we honor our private citizens. We look out for them. They know. You just have to claim it. You know?
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Oh, absolutely. Thanks for bring and thanks for bringing that up too, about, quote, private citizen because I've noticed all this controversy and stuff going on about, like, going after Hillary Clinton, for example. Shoot. I noticed I noticed that, the, people on mainstream media when they were addressing how, you know, Hillary Clinton, being involved when she was working in the system, they all didn't say that she was a US citizen. They all said that she was in a private citizen. So that told me right there that these people within the main mainstream media, when they they mentioned that word private citizen, Yeah. That kinda told me right there that she's trying to slimeball her way out of, all the harm that she did back when she was in the in the system.
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Yes. The lives the lives she had lost.
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What was that last statement?
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The lives that she has had lost. What was it? In Bosnia? What was that? Like, Syria? Yeah. Pretty bad.
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Gaddafi.
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Yeah.
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I keep on here I keep on hearing that, Gaddafi was actually turning turning his his, that North Africa into a a jewel, creating, all kinds of construction. There was no debt. I guess their banking system there was was, well, one of the one of the systems that they had to try to take down because it was, it was a user you know, it was a nonusory type of, banking system. And
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Yeah. Competition. Yes.
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There was a couple called the McDonald's that were over there working prior to this in the oilfield business. They had a, like, a bacteria that ate up oil sludge and stuff like that, and they were helping clean up some of these older sites. They tell a great story about how wonderful that country was, the people, the system, and they were hosted on TrueNews. The last guy to host them, I told Michael Herzog about it, and he I think he had them on once or twice, but they paid a heavy price for doing that as well. The third largest underground aquifer in the world underlies Libya.
Yeah. Wow. And he was bringing it up to the surface. Wow. They bombed us from the first NATO bombed the crap out of. I know a lady that who had a brother that worked for him and, said it was Greg over there until our intervention. Yes. My My my understanding that Gaddafi still was living in a tent because he said he's gonna live in a tent until absolutely everybody in the country is housed. That's correct.
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We had to bomb them back into freedom.
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Irony. If anybody haven't heard that McDonald's testimony about that country, it's worth hearing. The Mc the McDougall's. McDougall's. Thank you, Brent. Who interviewed them? Wasn't the first
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one Joyce Riley Joyce Riley did.
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Okay. I told Herzog about it so that if there's an RVN post for him and his he didn't have that many shows, so you should be able to find it there too. Weren't the McDougall's from Arkansas?
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Something like that. No. I think you're thinking of the Clinton ones maybe, but possibly.
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Alright. Yeah. I remember some McDougall. I I could've sworn that that McDougall sounds familiar. Like, it was goes back to
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the to the Clint's Susan McDougall.
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I don't know. It just sounds familiar. It sounds like some type of an association, back at or some of the McDougal's, didn't they go to jail or something? Yeah. Yeah. And they wouldn't they really wouldn't they wouldn't talk about it because I guess they didn't wanna be in the body count supposedly.
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Well, the guy died. Okay.
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I believe that was Jim and Susan McDougall. That couple you're talking about was on Joyce that couple you're talking about was on Joyce repeatedly, Brent. Yeah. They were frequent guests. They were on every two weeks there for several months back, you know, I don't know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, not too long before she died.
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Yep.
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So are they both gone now?
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No idea on the Clinton McDougall's. I don't I had never kept track of them.
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Jim McDougall was yeah. He died quite a while ago.
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Did you guys see that, that reality series family? The Chrisleys, Julie Chrisley and the Chrisleys know best that they were sentenced to prison for a very long time for mortgage fraud and that Trump just pardoned them so he must know that the mortgage fraud is all one big joke too. Too bad he doesn't know that, too bad he doesn't want to release files. As Larry said, there was, about a little bit over a minute of that video that was doctored and that's the time where Epstein was shown leaving the prison system. I don't know if that video is real or not. Could be CGI, but it really looks real.
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Trump is probably on the Epstein list.
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Hey, Joan. I I I think you could be correct, but I have, uncovered rape cases against him that never went to trial because the the victims were paid off. So I think these people are all compromised in these, big positions and destroyed that.
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Yeah. How could Trump be guilty of rape when he's a germophobe?
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I thought that was Obama.
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No. He was a booty buster and still is. But Trump doesn't like being around strange germs.
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But he also but he also, Brent, likes to grab him by the so how much of a germaphobe is he was he? I don't know. I'm going by what Alex said. Wow. Yeah. Haven't you seen that where he said that way back in the day?
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Yeah. You can guys talk all kinds of cash crap as far as doing is a different deal.
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I know, but I'm just saying some of the little clips I've seen over the years of them, that was one of them being quite young saying, yeah. He's whatever. He can just go up and grab him by the that's not much of a germaphobe to me. But you're I I know. Doing it is different. I know. I just there's a lot of gold diggers out there. So so you know? Yeah. Mhmm. 24 karat. Excuse me?
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24 karat.
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Oh, yes. And even aside from gold diggers when they're young like that, I mean, I guess you call them that. They're just out to have a good time and party it up with some people with money, men with money.
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Now what about, what about this Diddy, Diddy thing? Supposedly, he's they should make it sound like he's skating basically out of this. But doesn't he have a whole bunch of hundreds more, quote, lawsuits
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against him? So doesn't that mean he's gonna have to shoot the He's got he's got he got skated out of the criminal, and now he's just got civil. So it's just all one big hoax because all the look at who the prosecutor was. Comey's daughter? I mean, come on.
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Right. But my my question is, even though he's he's gone through, quote, one, a trial, aren't there, like, a whole bunch of other people in line to take him to court? Yeah. For
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civil civil, and he's got all this stuff in trust. So good luck trying to get anything out of him. He doesn't own anything.
[03:27:55] Unknown:
Well, I honest to god, I I would think that if if if somebody drops a roofie or whatever they call it back, you know, in your drink unknowingly, that's like poisoning the that's like poisoning the truth. That's the same that's the same thing that this one soldier did back when I was over in Germany and and, one of the other battalions that this this guy was this guy was, he was urinating in the daggy orange juice vat, and he got caught. And he, he got court martialed, and I think he spent, like, ten years in the brig. So it kinda sounds similar to you know, like, if you're if you're gonna drop a roofie in somebody's drink and they don't know it, and they next thing you know, they they they wake up, three days later and they don't know where the hell they are, kinda sounds like to me that, that's a crime.
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Isn't isn't that exactly what they railroaded Bill Cosby for? I'm almost certain that is what he was accused of was drugging.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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But didn't he didn't he supposedly admit that he did that?
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I don't know. But I know Bill Cosby, one of his things was and I'm not I don't I don't know enough about the story, but I know the alternative side of that was like, and I can't think of his name now. Denzel Washington also will come out a lot and speak out about the degradation of the black family, and that's really been the fall of the black communities. It is them taking down the family units, and and and black men need to stand up and take responsibilities for their family. Am am I saying it right, mister Rockman?
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Yeah. I'm on the way to work. So but, yeah, Cosby was gonna buy 10 BC, and the tribe put a halt to it.
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So all that was a lie? That was a lie about Bill Cosby or the truth?
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That was the truth. And he did Represent. I have a I I have a distant family member who was one of the 25 women on the cover of the Time magazine who was affected by him.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Yeah. It, it it sounds to me I don't think they need They should ever let this Epstein thing go because it's connected to everything that it's it's the dots are gonna connect to the whole reason why we've had all these world wars, in the military industrial complex, the whole thing. It's I think it goes that deep and that far.
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Well, there's also a lot of very, very huge money laundering aside from the human trafficking and that stuff. The money laundering stuff going on there with that man. Like, I watched a pretty good video, I don't know, one day this week that had a lot of stuff about him. And and that guy in Columbus, Ohio, Wex Wexner? Wex him?
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You know? He's he owns Victoria's Secrets or used to.
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Right. Right. And, Epstein was given absolute I mean, he that man signed over his whole fortune to Epstein. Gave him complete control of his finances. Who the heck was that man?
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For a dollar? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's a Really? Hear about a deck of submarine, submarine base underneath the, underneath the, Little Saint James.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Max just just Lane Maxwell was a submarine? I don't know what they're called. Pilots, private Pilot.
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Yep.
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Does anybody know if there's a archive of Joyce Riley's Power Hour shows? Uh-huh. Samuel, did you freeze? Or Yeah. I was just wondering if there's any power hour archives.
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Oh, I thought you said there are.
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No. I didn't.
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I don't know. Let me I'll look real quick.
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The the only place I know you could probably get an interview with the McDougall's was Michael Herzog did, I think, one or two of them while he was on RBN the second time. After Stap Miller had passed, he came back on.
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You can still find them, on RBN. They've got an archive that, you should be able to pull that stuff up.
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Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I was just wondering if there's one for Joyce as well because they she obviously was the first one that I know of to do these interviews. She had, I guess, quite a few of them. Anyway, it's if you have never heard of the McDougall's talk about Libyots, it's worth hearing it. They had Aspipa as a country for the what the benefits were for the people beyond imagination. Like, 27¢ gas and any education in the world that you wanted, they'd send you to other countries, housing, food, you name it. It was all supplied by the government's oil riches.
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I remember I remember when Beyonce, when she was kinda just, starting and she started to become well, actually became, you know, pretty well known in the music industry. So I'm not if I'm not, pretty certain that she went oh, she did a tour over there. She played for, Gaddafi. And I I could've sworn I saw that on, like, sixty minutes. Like, this is probably about fifteen years ago or something. But, yeah. Does does anybody ever remember anything about Beyonce going and performing for, colonel Gaddafi back in the day? And and do we, also, do we know what month that was that, the McDougal's were on the, show?
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The only the only The what show? Oh, go ahead.
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What did you say? Hoyts Hoytsog?
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Hoytsog?
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Herzog. Yeah. Michael Herzog.
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Yeah. Do you so when you go into the archives on RBN, don't you kinda have to know around what month period that the, McDougall's were on?
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Well, Michael was on the second time after sometime after John had passed because they had, a falling out. So I know it's it's after after he came back, I guess.
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So are we talking about '22?
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I'm not real sure what year, but that seems like it'd be about right. This is the same period of time that Herzog was causing all the stir on the on the wand as well, which was unfortunate. I used to like that guy a lot until he started doing that crap, which was wrong. But, and then he disappeared and went on, did his own thing. I probably still have his email. I could probably, ask him if he knows if that's in the archives or not. Maybe he'll let me know.
[03:36:15] Unknown:
Doesn't, Tom, I don't I don't know what Tom's last name is that that do you yeah. Doesn't, I mean, isn't he kinda running RBN now?
[03:36:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I think so. Or at least, they give him that title. I don't know how involved he really is. But Yeah. He could probably he could probably,
[03:36:38] Unknown:
pull it up or find out. Or
[03:36:40] Unknown:
Yeah. He comes on every once in a while too, so any time to ask him. Murder probably also find out since he's a host.
[03:36:48] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Because I used to listen to RBN, almost twenty four seven. But, yeah. When when Roger when Roger came back, and I guess around '22, I'm like I said to myself, I remember him from back back in, like, '20 what was it? 2010 or 2012? And, I had wondered where he had gone off to. So then, you know, now that now that Roger's back on the air, I started I've been listening to him, every day instead of, RVN. So I need to I need to go into the archives and and try to listen to RVN and see what's going on on on their side of the spectrum.
[03:37:44] Unknown:
So, Samuel, did you say you thought it might be when he came back and was posting the national intel report?
[03:37:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Herzog came back after John passed.
[03:38:00] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[03:38:01] Unknown:
John had kicked him off when he was alive, so he had some kind of a falling out, and then he he came back quite a bit time after John passed.
[03:38:11] Unknown:
Maybe Yeah. What it's showing is all I'm getting for archives for Herzog is it's starting in '23, and it's with him as a special host for Stab Miller. But I also
[03:38:24] Unknown:
I also gone more than that. Getting descriptions. You know? So Stab Miller been Stab Miller died before 02/2023.
[03:38:34] Unknown:
Yeah. So this is but you said there was a while after he passed. I'm just telling you what the archives are showing for me. Okay. Without But does it it's doesn't it have, shows for the individual hosts
[03:38:47] Unknown:
listed?
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Some, but
[03:38:53] Unknown:
So I would think NerdDog would have a list of shows for a certain period of time, and in there, you you would as a title, you would probably see it under McDougal McDougal interview or something like that, I would think. But I've never really been in those archives to to have any No. Real appreciation
[03:39:11] Unknown:
for how they're set up. I have, and I and I looked a little bit. I haven't been over here at all for a long time, really. But all I'm seeing, like, as far as hosts is Michael Herzog, and he just did the the host. You know? It's not and I think his show was called The American Awakening.
[03:39:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably. Mhmm. That rings a bell. I thought he was a great host. I thought he did a good job always, and I used to always follow his show, but he didn't stay on very long.
[03:39:43] Unknown:
Yeah. At a at a point, I thought he actually left because of health issues, and then there was another point where he and John, I thought he and John first had a whole falling out, and then and then he came back, and then he had health issues. Herzog did and left, and then he came back for a bit, like you said, after John died, maybe. But I I didn't listen to it much. I quit listening before John died, actually, a lot. Because Mhmm. Because of that, you could you would start liking a show, and they would be on there for no time, and then they're replaced. And they were just flipping hosts like pancakes.
[03:40:27] Unknown:
John was a pretty difficult character. I he he was I tried to give him a little helpful information one time, and he just rode up one side of me and down the other. And I says, hey. Wait a minute, dude. I'm on your side. I guess that's how you get an aneurysm in your gut.
[03:40:53] Unknown:
Maybe. Yeah.
[03:40:55] Unknown:
It's been too much pressure on your gut.
[03:40:57] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:40:58] Unknown:
Getting all cranked up about stuff that doesn't matter. You know? Yeah. I know. And take everything so personally. Yeah.
[03:41:08] Unknown:
My daughter has a new learn to be a duck. Gotta learn to be a duck. Just let stuff roll off your back.
[03:41:16] Unknown:
All I was doing is I was pointing out and I did it privately. I would did call in the show and confront them or anything. I did it through an email or a phone call. I forget which. And, I just told him that he made an error in his statement on one of the shows, and he might wanna correct it. Well, he sure as hell didn't wanna hear that. He starts grilling me like crazy. And then he says, hey. Wait a minute. I'm on your side. I'm just pointing something out here. You know? No big deal. A
[03:41:49] Unknown:
lot of these guys have too much ego. That's all that is to me. Yeah.
[03:41:57] Unknown:
It's not really ego. It's power.
[03:42:00] Unknown:
You think? I don't think in the in the in respect of the things in the world that I would view John Stapmiller as having all that much power, but he had quite an ego.
[03:42:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he was never wrong, obviously.
[03:42:22] Unknown:
Oh, that's a narcissist, isn't it? You can't admit the wrong. Gotta label people.
[03:42:32] Unknown:
That's how we get over this. I can't remember what it was about. It was something that, he said about, what was the big host there in the middle of the day for the longest time for years?
[03:42:47] Unknown:
Rivera.
[03:42:48] Unknown:
Michael Rivera. Rivera. Michael Rivera. Mike he said something about Michael Rivera that wasn't correct, and I got it from Michael Rivera. And I told him about it, and that's what he couldn't accept. That he said something about Michael Rivera that wasn't accurate, and I had asked Michael Rivera about it. So
[03:43:08] Unknown:
Michael Rivera was one that I liked, didn't like. He he he seemed, you know, he was pretty informative, but he was very stuck on and could not see the corruption in some things. But he had a long show, like, three hours, and he hardly ever had guests. Like, how much can a person like to hear their own voice? Wowee. Yeah. But every now and then, he would have guests, and he was a very good interviewer most of the time also. I always wished he he would have had more of a guest oriented show.
[03:43:43] Unknown:
He usually ran up as if I remember correctly, the current events, and I sorta like that for a show because I don't watch any other, at the time, any other news. So he sort of brought it up to date every day. But, yeah, he's he, there are a number of things that he was not going to discuss.
[03:44:03] Unknown:
The Jews and the national debt.
[03:44:08] Unknown:
And anything NASA. Anything NASA, possible corruption because he whatever was affiliated with them at some point. So Yeah. That's true.
[03:44:18] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:44:19] Unknown:
Well, I'll see you all later. I'll talk to you tomorrow or, I mean, Monday. Alright? Bye bye.
[03:44:27] Unknown:
Bye. Nice hearing you again.
[03:44:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd love to have a copy of one of those interviews. I mean, I looked online, and there is just nothing. The McDougall's, Olivia, Joyce Riley, not a don't exist. They're they're pretty good. And I'm sure you on that one. You looked Yandex? Yes. And Brave through the, a AI. Nothing.
[03:44:55] Unknown:
You know, Jim Ram used to record all of Joyce Riley's shows when she sold them, you know, each segment of every show. Remember when she used to sell those?
[03:45:06] Unknown:
I don't.
[03:45:07] Unknown:
Yeah. She would advertise, you know, each segment of her daily show was for sale. And I don't know how much she charged, but Jim Ram was the guy that was recording all those for her on disc.
[03:45:20] Unknown:
Wow. I never knew that, Dave. I never knew that. Yeah. It's pretty wild.
[03:45:26] Unknown:
Jim was doing these, you know, expos for years, you know, selling ammo and stuff like that, you know? And, and he would sell those shows for her at those expos, and she sold them on her show. I I remember her advertising those long before I knew Jim, you know, and then he was the guy doing that. That blew me away.
[03:45:55] Unknown:
I just went because I know there had been times over the years since Joyce died, and and the PowerMall was still up. You know? Yeah. Yep. And I I just clicked over there, and and the site's still the powermall.com, and it and it shows some weird products and stuff down there, but this thing comes up at the top with a little sign on it like a closed door. Sorry. We're closed forever.
[03:46:21] Unknown:
Oh, really? Yeah. Well, remember when that, Dave Krieger took over the show? He
[03:46:29] Unknown:
was the Krieger wasn't Dave Krieger her ex husband?
[03:46:33] Unknown:
Nope. That was Dave,
[03:46:35] Unknown:
Von Klein.
[03:46:36] Unknown:
Yep. Von Kleist. There you go. Yeah. He was there on RBN just, you know, like, last year, and then he moved over to, Red Pill Radio or something like that. He's on there now. Red State. Red State. Thank you, Samuel. Yep. He he replaced, that Preston guy because his show cut I don't know what was going on with his show. He'd he had so much dead air.
[03:47:03] Unknown:
I think I think Davon Plaist is who Roger had run ins with down in Argentina.
[03:47:09] Unknown:
It is. Yeah. Roger blamed him for stealing a ounce of silver from or gold from him or something like that.
[03:47:17] Unknown:
And his passport. Wasn't it also his passport? Yeah. He might have yeah. Yeah.
[03:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Never found out what happened to Preston. He just went boomp, and he was gone.
[03:47:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Is he who is Preston? Was he the one that was doing the California state. Doing the California state stuff. Yeah. Yep. Yep. He was a school principal or something. He's just gone?
[03:47:41] Unknown:
Just went away. Gone. I I've heard him interviewed a couple times since the show disappeared, and Von took over that time slot. But I've heard Paul interviewed on Dave Hodges' show a couple of times since he disappeared, and they act like his show's still out there, but it's not on Red State Radio anymore.
[03:48:01] Unknown:
I thought that movement was starting to really and base you used to follow them a lot, Samuel, and I thought that was really starting to take precedent in California getting a lot of attention and based on all the farm counties versus these couple counties where the cities are that run the state. I thought they were starting to get some real good traction on that.
[03:48:26] Unknown:
What's the gal that was on RVN with the name of Rose?
[03:48:32] Unknown:
She threw Paul Preston under the bus pretty good, a couple of her shows. I don't remember other the only I can think of is Rosa Corey, and she was at the agenda 21, but I don't never knew of her having a show.
[03:48:44] Unknown:
That was perfect. She was a Zionist.
[03:48:47] Unknown:
Maggie Rose?
[03:48:48] Unknown:
Maggie Rose. She she threw Preston under the bus. She said he was never a principal. He was a janitor.
[03:48:55] Unknown:
I you know, I never liked her when she took over that, for, Bennett, Jeffrey Bennett. She was filling in in his show for him and I she's a Zionist, man. Her and that dude she has on from, Oregon or something, they're both Zionist, big time Zionists.
[03:49:15] Unknown:
Okay. Are we talking about Maggie Rose or Rose DeCory? Because Joe joined me with you. Okay. Maggie knows who I'm talking about. Who Rosa Corey is also. Right? Yeah. I do. But she's and she's not a Zionist.
[03:49:29] Unknown:
She's part of the movement Democrats Against Agenda twenty one, I think.
[03:49:33] Unknown:
She's dead now. She's a lesbian.
[03:49:36] Unknown:
Maggie Rose said Paul Preston was never a principal of anything. He was the janitor at the school.
[03:49:42] Unknown:
Yeah. She's a Zionist. She's a pig. I don't believe her for a second.
[03:49:49] Unknown:
Oh, it's like, woah.
[03:49:51] Unknown:
Where's Paul? I want to talk to Paul, you know? Yeah. Well, he's got the power because he disappeared off of that red state, man. Just like, you know, you couldn't hear me. He would he would say something and then he he would be gone, you know, and the whole show would be just dead air. Yeah. He definitely had a technical problem. I you know, and he supposedly had stage four cancer and went through the whole killing routine and survived that. So
[03:50:19] Unknown:
Wow. He was probably a pretty tough dude, but maybe all that came back too, I figured. Maybe. Well, Reese, I'm telling you. I heard him not too long ago,
[03:50:29] Unknown:
on, Dave Hodges show, and he he promoted Preston's show, but he didn't say what the platform was that I remember.
[03:50:38] Unknown:
Okay. We'll have to look for him again then. So Yeah. He's still out there as far as I know. I talked to him a couple times on the phone about, you know, the, our status. And wouldn't it be wonderful if we can bring in the new state and give everybody that education to make a decision on what they want to be.
[03:50:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That'd be huge.
[03:51:02] Unknown:
Yeah. That's quite a while ago, and he was like, well, man, I so I've got so many fish to fry already. It seems to do. So plus, he used to keep me up on, Lake Oroville as well because he he lives right his studio was right below it. When that thing topped, he was up there watching what was going on and reported on it. I missed what you said. Are are you talking about the dam? Yes. Okay. Yep. That's something like three and a half square miles of water behind, an earthen dam, and it they didn't even crush the rock when they packed it. It's all marbles.
It's all river rock from the, hydraulic mining that went on in that area. I would never What reporting Never lived below a dam, especially that one.
[03:51:57] Unknown:
You know, Samuel, as much reporting as I've heard on that dam that it was, you know, gonna blow any minute. Have you been there to visit it? Is it really gonna blow, or is that all just fear mongering?
[03:52:11] Unknown:
Well, I think it's got some issues, but they did they did it over over a billion dollars worth of repair. When if they would have kept the maintenance up, from what I understand, it would have been $250,000 that they just didn't do. And so when that thing topped, it was really vulnerable. Some of the gates didn't even open. They're all rusty and stuff. So they did a big uplift to it. They they paved the whole side of it so it that used to be ground. So if it ever tops again, it's not just gonna erode, you know, soil away. It's it's mostly covered with concrete now. So if it's spillway or it goes over the top, it's gonna be contained by a lot more concrete work. But Mhmm.
Preston brought a lawsuit against them for when they were doing that fix because they were using a lot of explosives, and he did not feel that that was wise. So he brought a lawsuit against him and stuff. So, you know
[03:53:23] Unknown:
It sure seemed like they wanted that thing to fail.
[03:53:26] Unknown:
I wouldn't be surprised. Right. The governor is against this this governor is against dams. He's trying to move. Well,
[03:53:38] Unknown:
you know, dams Walla calls them dam dams, you know, because they block the minerals from flowing, and, you know, they cause a lot of problems, but, they have, you know, I'd rather have electricity than not. And because they you know, when before we lived here, we couldn't have solar in our community. They wouldn't allow it. You had to have permission, you know, even in a even a national, you know, where where I lived in them cities in the suburbs, there's no way you could I I don't believe even being a national would you be able to get away with doing what they don't want you to do and what your neighbors believe you're not allowed to do. You know? You gotta be out in the county to be able to exercise your rights.
[03:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. When I I showed the paperwork to the county that I wanna file, she made a point to telling me that, to not just put, my county name, but the an unincorporated
[03:54:45] Unknown:
part of the county. It's an unincorporated part. She made a big point of that. So are you are you ready to share that with us, or have you file recorded that yet?
[03:54:58] Unknown:
I'm still refining it a little bit and I'm adding that declaration of independence. Okay. So
[03:55:05] Unknown:
I'm gonna be filing Have you put your affidavit to the Department of State yet?
[03:55:10] Unknown:
Pardon?
[03:55:11] Unknown:
Have you sent your affidavit to the Department of State yet? Yeah. I did that in 02/2019.
[03:55:16] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's gonna be one of the attachments to my quick claim.
[03:55:21] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:55:22] Unknown:
So it'll be that'll be filed at the county, My covenant and conditions of my land patent and the lodium will be filed with it as a separate one and then that declaration of independence. So I'm attaching three documents to get them filed on a quitclaim because they accept that, and they don't have any place to put those other documents. So they're telling me to attach whatever I want to to the quitclaim. So that's what I'm doing.
[03:55:55] Unknown:
Sounds good.
[03:55:56] Unknown:
My my title guy warned me. He says they only got 12 pigeonholes in this in this county to stick things, so it's gotta be something that they understand or they if they don't have a pigeonhole for it, they won't file it. I was when I was down there, I told them the story about Daryl Wayne. When he went down to file his affidavit in his county in Alabama, he sat down with the clerk, and they were having a little conversation. He pushed the document across to her. And, after he talked for quite a while, he said, why aren't you gonna read it? And, she says, it's none of my business.
I told that story down at at my county, clerk's office, and they had a they had a little laugh with me. In other words, we're gonna file anything you give us. We're not even gonna look at it. Right? We're here. It it it it'll probably be scrutinized and then given to a a group of attorneys to look at it. Right? So if it gets filed, I figure it's, God's business, not mine because I probably don't stand, much of a chance without that The way I look at it, it's gonna be divine recording, if it's recorded at all.
[03:57:17] Unknown:
I wonder how many documents have been recorded by the county into the trash can.
[03:57:25] Unknown:
Well, you know, if they say they're gonna do it and they stamp that document, it's a done deal. And it it does have a lot of, Christian reference in it. So I'm thinking that if there's Christians reading it and that the attorneys maybe are Christian, that it probably would stand. We'll see. You know? I love my documents regardless of whether they record them or not. They'll be in my possession, and, I'll still probably run some stuff in the paper, and then I'll do my notices. But I'd like to do my notices if they could get if they're recorded in the county level and I can state that in my notices, that's all the much more better for me, right, all the way around.
So try that first. See what happens. And even my, my friend who worked in the title company, she told me she said, you know, there's there's El Dorado County that I'm in, and just to the south of us is Amador. She's worked in both counties as a title officers. And she says, El Dorado believes they're very special. She says, recording in Amador County is so much more straightforward and easier to do than it is in in El Dorado. So it's a even in the state, it's a county and a county thing. And then I've read a lot of stuff about law in this, state. And supposedly from the beginning, the states gave the counties a lot of autonomy and a lot of power, which is probably not bad, but, you know, but then, El Dorado County both butts right up in the on the western edge, I got up against Sacramento County, and that, of course, is the county that is the state capital, and it's the agenda 21 and agenda 30, bastion of lawmaking.
So I think the closer you are to that Sacramento, the more, the more bleed over you have about all this stuff that's wrong, unconstitutional, etcetera. They they can call it the, the agenda 2,030 county. So very progressive about all of this crap. Like, for instance, I think the city of Sacramento is, is already got the law on the books. It's got a time frame when you just can't have a gas appliance in your house.
[04:00:07] Unknown:
Crap like that. Did Paul take the channel down? Did Paul take the channel down? He must have.
[04:00:15] Unknown:
Why would why would it matter?
[04:00:18] Unknown:
Oh, I, I remember, seemed like earlier, he said something about he was gonna take the channel down in about ten minutes. So I don't know if he, I never heard the recording of taking the channel down. So I was just kinda curious. And the and the reason why is because, if you hadn't taken the channel down, then, these late conversations that we're having, you can go back and listen to them. But if he takes the channel down, I don't think he can. I yield.
[04:00:56] Unknown:
Dave, are you still here? I just looked up Paul Preston. It said he passed away 11/04/2023. I didn't have a clue. I had looked that up earlier, and I couldn't find anything posted, but I found it today. Complications of cancer treatment is what it said.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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I know you're connected. Hello, Rog. Okay. Good morning. Welcome to the Radio Ranch Sabado edition for, Saturday, 07/12/2025. Roger just joined us a few minutes ago and giving him an opportunity to, get his morning coffee together and whatever, fruity veggie drink that he starts his day off with. In the meanwhile, we have a number of platforms that help us, support what we do. Here he is eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Euro Folk Radio covers, broadcast Monday through Saturday, all six days in both hours. We have Global Voice Radio Network, which also does Monday through Saturday, both hours, plus after show.
Just depends on what's being discussed and what's happening. We also, normally have radiosoapbox.com during the week, and, one of our other net family of broadcast services, including WDRN productions and WVOU FM Chicago. They have not been with us for a little while, but, we expect them back soon. So, good morning, everyone. Roger's still, Roger's still just sitting there. I'm maybe he's, you know, indisposed for one reason or another. Good morning, everyone. How is everybody?
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Morning, Paul.
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Good morning, Rick. Hi, Paul. Good morning, Paul. Morning, everybody. Hi, Joe. Joe, I've got a I got a a document. I don't know if Sheldon's with us this morning, but I've got a book that, that, you might be interested in. It's, magnesium batteries. Talks about, like, the electrolyte solutions, the the anode and cathode materials, and stuff like that. Sheldon was talking about that. He'd taken a lead acid battery and converted it to a magnesium battery. That would be interesting. Very much so. I've been reading it this morning. You know? Kind of fun.
Let's see. Roger's still not unmuted. Okay. We'll, we'll get this we'll get this show on the road. The Thursday Paul English live show is very interesting. It was fun. You can find that on Global Voice Network on the archive list on Podom. And, also, the Friday edition of the Radio Ranch with, Roger Sales and Brent Winters, That was an awesome show yesterday. If you if you didn't catch it, the archive is there. There were a couple of missing archives through the week. They were, they were ones that fell through the cracks, and, I was able to, pull them out of history recordings and then upload those.
So, Mike, if you're with us, all episodes should be available. And, fully prim proper and all that happy stuff. I normally, we have, Mark
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There's and the straw man joining us on Saturdays. Morning.
[00:05:32] Unknown:
Mark's here.
[00:05:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Mark just showed up a minute ago. He's probably still listening to the entry recording. And Roger's still muted. Oh, okay. Oh, that's fine. First time that's ever happened, but then again, he only connected to Zoom, oh, about three minutes before showtime. He normally does that thinking he's got time to get ready. Morning, Mark. Good to see you joined us. Morning, Paul. Check. Check. Check. How's my microphone? Hey. You sound way better than average. Alright. Good. You you sound fine. Just to let everybody know, we have on a couple occasions I have on a couple of occasions forgotten to hit the right buttons, just because the way I had audio routing. Well, I changed that routing.
Roger is listening directly to the conference room, so there's minimal delay. Should make communication smoother, but I listen to the conference room over the feed that goes out over the broadcast. So if I can't hear you guys, I know to click a right button and turn it back on. So, we haven't we haven't had any any technical trousers, snafus, hiccups, or otherwise, misadventures in in quite a while. So at least that worked. How are you doing today, Mark?
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I'm doing pretty good. It's been, last, what, up until Thursday was a blaze. Or, actually, till Friday morning was busy busy as you well know.
[00:07:13] Unknown:
Uh-huh. But I I hear that was awesome. I hear it was successful. Yeah. It was,
[00:07:21] Unknown:
We'll have to leave it at that. Yep. But, you know, inside little inside baseball going on. So, anyway, good to be here. And, hopefully, Roger will get connected with us soon. So but, yeah, it's been really interesting, especially in our our trust classes, and I'm excited about, you know, joining, Brent's trust classes. Mhmm. Because like I was telling everybody, I mean, one, you can't be what was it? $30? And then two, you just never know what kind of little nuggets you might learn, you know. And I was sharing, you know, previously that, although I know a lot about court jurisdiction, and the last appeal that my research and writing won was on jurisdiction in Texas.
So I know a little bit about jurisdiction. But one thing that I always kinda got confused until our our friend Charlie, who used to be on the show, about a year ago or so, she we were talking about jurisdiction and she said she had a professor tell her that it was like taking all the different jurisdictions except for military and throwing it in the a blender and whatever comes out of that is what you get. Now that wasn't real super helpful until Brent said, basically, the same way in a different way or same thing in a different way. He said, it depends on what you get out of the court.
And and I think he further expanded if I recall correctly. It's it's really the facts of the case. See, I was under the false impression, now this is wrong, okay, but I was under the false impression that you could only get one jurisdiction at a time in court. Like, the whole court proceedings could only go, like, under common law. That's what I was after. But that's not true. You have different blends of law inside there. I'll give you an example. If you look at equity, equity law, which is actually what every court in The United States you go into any court, and it's presumed to be operating under equity unless, a party pushes for a different type of jurisdiction and the facts support like let's give an example, maritime law. So if you're out here doing, like, this deep sea fishing, and you're out on a boat, you're under maritime law.
Well, they don't have courts out there in the deep sea. So if there's any kind of legal issue when you get back to land, you go to a court and you have to invoke that the facts line up with maritime law. And the judge would have to make a ruling under maritime law. But in most Subject matter. Most instances
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pardon me? Subject matter. Depends on the subject matter. Exactly.
[00:10:37] Unknown:
Exactly. So if, if you, but if you're in a typical courtroom environment with the typical stuff, like typical lawsuits, usually, it's for some type of damage or money, then you're walking into a court that's presumed right up front to be a court of equity. And most people don't understand that. I'll give you an example that that equity could come into play and it's people are starting to pick up on it is in, foreclosures. So there's been some court rulings where people who've had a larger interest, and this also includes tax, property taxes have been forwarded, from a property sale, a tax sale, because the homeowner has a much larger interest in the equity of the property that's involved in the lawsuit than does the other party, the creditor, who's trying to foreclose on the property.
So let's say a property had $220,000 or was as valued at 220,000. Excuse me. And the debt that was being, you know, pursued was, say, $20,000. Well, the the the creditor doesn't have as much interest in the property, and there's a maximum of law in equity, and you'll you'll ever want you'll usually see it, in law books. It'll say, maximum of equity, and you'll have all these different maximums of law. One maximum of law we talked about, you cannot prove a negative. That's been a very long standing of law that I can't ask you to prove something that is not. That's an impossibility. So the burden shifts back to the party who's alleging that negative fact. It's it's based it's upon them to prove it.
So, in this instance, the maximum law is equity cannot do any harm without a remedy. In other words, you can't harm the party that has the largest interest. And there's some cases that are coming out. So, really, if you got a piece of property, you got a large amount of equity, way more than the little property tax they're asking for, they shouldn't be able to hold a foreclosure sale or a tax sale on that property. So that's pretty pretty fascinating area of law that I'm I'm, you know, discovering. This has been around for a long time, but very few people, I would say even attorneys, don't know that they're walking into a court of equity.
But that's supposed to be what's what's fair and equitable, and it's totally up to the judge's decision.
[00:13:29] Unknown:
So, anyway, pretty pretty interesting stuff. Thank you, Mark. So are you still trying to join us? No. I'm here. I I I guess I looked at my clock, my little cell phone thing, and I must have thought it said thirty eight, and I must have been fifty eight because I was in mixing a drink and stuff and came back when you were talking. So sorry.
[00:13:50] Unknown:
But, glad you're there, Mark. To go. Where's Roger?
[00:13:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Well, thank you for, picking up the ball and dribbling there, Mark. Morning, Paul. You bet. Morning, audience. Good morning. I don't know if you know this or not, but I have,
[00:14:06] Unknown:
I have, some depressing news. And I believe the date was the July 7. Diana Spingola left us.
[00:14:20] Unknown:
Oh, I'm so sorry. So sorry. Deanna was, I did several interviews with her. John and Glenn, did an interview with her. If y'all wanna go back in our archives and try and find something from John and Glenn years ago, they did an interview with her on the tax stuff, and, she was a great valiant warrior. I do you do you do you feminize that? Warrior. And, her husband never, to my knowledge, got on board. And, but she pioneered and and plowed forward and wrote books and investigated all this, and she was just a hell of a gal. I'm sure sorry to hear that. Paul, you're right. It is depressing. A gal that was in the, knitting business, if you don't know her background The knitting business? In the knitting or some kind of fabric business, and that's where she stumbled on. Styles. Okay. Thank you. Textiles. Textiles.
And stumbled on the, effects of these people in their control of that industry and started asking questions. And like a true truth seeker, ended up, well, probably almost giving everything away, including her health. And, I'm sorry to hear it eventually caught up with her. That's, that's bad news. But God bless you, Deanna, for the warrior that you were and the things that you contributed on this exposure of these monsters. They're just freaking monsters. They've been that way for over two thousand years, Mark. I'm gonna I haven't sent it to you yet. I got a Cody sent me, you know, one of those little squares so they got the guy's picture and the saying next to it. I I sent you a Cicero.
It's a hundred years before they crucified Christ talking about him. K? Yeah. So yep. Incredible. And they have gone to great lengths to hide and have, these little triggers like like you heard Eric on here. We had one of our local Jewish guys came on and tried to do a debate about this. And listen. You're not you're not gonna win any debate about this with me. I know too much. I know more about your freaking role your quote, unquote religion and your activities than you do. K? So, and I think, Paul, I we were having that discussion with Eric, and the last question I heard the other day was, do you believe in the holocaust? And I said, no. Not at all.
And, at least not in the way it's presented. And then we, I did the little, it's a trick. We always use it in my little, my little Jewish invitation voice, but damned if you didn't have it on file there and pulled it out and played it for us. Thank you very much. And I I would imagine that, that Eric probably left about that time. See, they can't win. But, boy, they'll keep trying just like that quote that that, Murr put out the Hitler, Hitler about trying to talk with them same way still. So anyway, that happened this week. I don't know how much you know about that, Mark, but Jack, my old friend, Jack, of thirty two plus years, kicked me out of the, Tuesday lunch group for talking about the Jews. Three or four other people Yeah.
Nagging him, you know, baby baby. They're like the hyenas and jackals that they are, and, Jack succumbed to it. I was, very disappointed.
[00:17:49] Unknown:
So, anyway People don't understand, Roger, that, you know, there's there's and the Bible calls it the wheat and the tares. Yes. That's what I told you. Going on. That's what I accused him. I said, hey, Eric. You're you're they're God's coming down to take the terrors. That's what I told him the other day. Right. Right. But people don't understand that verse. But No. Or that scripture because it talks about where an enemy came in and basically sowed weeds in somebody's wheat field. Yeah. And the wheat field is talking about the wheat is referred to or is referring to the Hebrew Israelites, the apple of God's eye, his chosen people.
The weeds are some other group. Right? Some other group. And and we have our, you know, opinions on who they are. But when it was in the parable, it was like, well, does the farmer go out and just, you know, burn down his field? Well, no. He can't because he loses the wheat. And we're in that same dichotomy right now. We've got we've got true Hebrew Israelite, the apple of God's eye, and then we got some group that I, in my opinion and I'm I'm not the most studied person on it. And it took me a long while to come around and realize what was going on. But and it it lines up biblically. That's all I can say. Oh, boy does. You got a group that's come in and co opted that, and they've they've pushed this name out on everything as Jewish.
And so and then they incorporated that into the Christian community. And now the way I hear it is people refer to them as Zionist. What was interesting when the Palestinian protests were going on here in The United States, They had some Palestinian students here in Oklahoma City, and they got on television, and, the girl that was doing the speaking for the little group, they she said, we're not anti Semitic. We're anti Zionist. And she said it twice. I was like, wow, she gets it. She knows what she's talking about. So anyway, I, you know, I just asked everybody to put down their stones.
Everybody's got a different opinion. And if if you have a different opinion, that's okay. You know, I still love you. You know, you might do a little bit more investigation. But just realize you got God's people that's been co opted. You got we got real Hebrew Israelites and then we got fake Jews. And the Bible talks about fake Jews. And so again, put down your stones. You know, we're here to talk about the national status and daily events and things like that. And especially on Saturday, that's when we want students who aren't able to make the the program during the week live, maybe because they're at work. Now they can come on and ask a question about the national status and how it might relate to everyday life, including trust.
I cover that in our in our teaching, Roger, where there's certain certain situations, especially when it's involving taxation, that being a national is really advantageous, especially in a trust because there's no taxation when property gets transferred to a party. So lot of benefits from that. And, our students, one, Jack from Colorado, and then a couple other has some interesting situations involving LLCs and, you know, how to handle the tax stuff on that. So that's it's always a fun discussion, and it, you know, helps expand my brain a little bit. So, anyway, that's, you know go ahead, Paul.
[00:21:55] Unknown:
My question is, what is the fundamental difference between a trust and the ability for a trust to transfer property and a simple survivorship clause on a deed and the automatic transfer from one person to another on the person's passing?
[00:22:13] Unknown:
Sure. Now the survivorship clause on a deed, like real estate, unless a surviving spouse fills that out in advance, it's just gonna go to the estate. Right? And so the the interested parties in the estate show up. And usually, that surviving survivorship clause is a surviving spouse. And so the surviving spouse would, go to the the county court clerk's office and and their land records and present their death certificate of their spouse and whatever information they need, and then they'll transfer the deed into that surviving spouse's name. Now an LLC, it can transfer excuse me. A trust can transfer property into another trust.
If if a trust document gives the trustee authority to create trust in the name of that trust, it can do it. So you could have a trust. Now I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend doing that like it. It's funny that you asked that because our friend, Julie, had had a similar question, based on a real life experience where the parents left, had a family trust that become irrevocable upon the surviving spouse's death, which is usually the the wife. And then they had two siblings. And one sibling was, at the time of her death, he was the successor trustee and he became the the trustee and one of the two beneficiaries, if that makes sense. So you get the trustee who has to execute the trust according to what's written in the trust to the best of their ability and in the fiduciary responsibility of of the benefit of the beneficiaries.
So if the trust doesn't specifically cover something or an odd situation shows up, the trustee is supposed to handle that in the best interest of the beneficiaries. Okay. In this instance, you got one of the trustees is also one of the of the two beneficiaries. So now the trust instructions are to create for the trust to create two trusts, equally divide up all the property and half goes into one trust and half goes in the other. Right? So it would have been a lot better if instead of doing it that way, in my opinion, when this was a a trust that would have been set up by an attorney, I it would have been simpler had the when the the parents set up the original trust, if they wanna went ahead and just created two more trust and put their their kids as the beneficiary. So you can have a trust, and you can have anything to be a beneficiary.
Could be a church, could be your children, could be an LLC, could be a corporation, and could even be another trust. So in this particular scenario, we got one sibling fighting. Of course, there are the non trustee siblings fighting that that that's not the way the trust is written. Now check this out. The attorney's dead, and the paralegal is gone. And there's no more office for them to go back and go, well, how did you mean for this to be done? Right? And that's why they try to make these trusts so complicated pages and pages and pages so that they know that when the surviving family members, the estate gets the trust, they're like, Oh, Oh, I need an attorney. And what are they going to do? They're going to look down on the paper and the the attorney's information is going to be in the footer on every page. So who do you think they're going to call?
They're going to call the attorney who wrote the trust. And guess what? He's gonna charge them money by the hour. So it's a built in income stream, the way they got this set up. So, anyway, did that answer all your questions, Paul?
[00:26:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It did. And you can't beat repeat business, can you? No. It's like stapling your business card to the paperwork. Well, that's how you build a business. That's how you build a business is repeat business.
[00:26:42] Unknown:
Yeah. And and the other thing too, attorneys used to I don't know what they do today, but used to as common practice, they would practically give away a will. If you wanted to do a will, no problem. $50. And then they charge your estate, you know, $250 an hour to represent them in probate court. And on that will, guess what? It's gonna have that attorney's name and phone number and address all over everything at the foot of every every document will be his contact information because he knows your state's gonna come back and go, oh, well, you know, mom had this will drawn up by this attorney, so let's use them.
That's just common practice.
[00:27:27] Unknown:
Yep. If you don't do a trust and you've got property, you you might reconsider. Mark. Well, there's Julie. Good morning, Julie. How are you? All the all the crew here. Before you launch off, let me just say I was a little bit late here this morning. So at least as Mark said, I wanna cover it. The the Saturday show particularly is for new students, and so I don't know if Yeah. I have a new student for you today. Oh, fantastic.
[00:27:51] Unknown:
How exciting. Yes. But I Go ahead. I don't know if he's on. Austin, are you on?
[00:27:57] Unknown:
Austin might not have made him.
[00:28:00] Unknown:
He would be on. You have to hit 6, Austin.
[00:28:04] Unknown:
six. Well, Austin may just wanna listen for a little bit. He is this guy you told me about in the email? The the the metals guy that you caught? Thank you, Julia. Yes. Star six. Oh, yay. Austin. Alright. Welcome, Austin. Alright. Well, Austin, my name is Roger Sales. I run the, Radio Ranch here and have pioneered all this stuff. So welcome on your Saturday, and we're mighty glad to have you. Yeah.
[00:28:31] Unknown:
Yay, Austin. I'm so happy you're on. So, Roger, I just have to preface this. Yesterday, you know, Austin is in the metals business for anybody. You know how much Roger is promoted getting gold and silver. So, Austin called me up yesterday, and we had a great, we had a great, conversation. And I said, hey. By the way, do you pay taxes? And he said, yeah. Why why wouldn't I? I said, you need to get on Roger's show. So I red pill them, and I said, you need to come on tomorrow on Saturday because we love new students. And so I'm just gonna let you talk to Austin, Roger, and I'll just mute myself.
[00:29:07] Unknown:
Okay, Austin. As I said, I've been in this thirty three years this month, I think. I was fortunate enough in the six months that they were teaching the tax stuff, my two mentors, teachers. I was fortunate enough to cross paths with them back in 1992. I never had a tax problem. I just had I knew something was wrong, and I never knew what it was. And so it was crossing paths with them that put me on this path. And my law teacher particularly was an extremely, excellent legal guy because he had studied the law his whole adult life, but not in law school. And he would go back to the old authors and the old law.
And what we found is they've covered that up in our law schools. Okay? And I can give you a number of examples. But, anyway, that's where I came from, and then they got raided by IRS, six months into teaching back in 1992 now. The federal government doesn't act that quick on anything. And so they, raided all through their offices with glocks at their heads and ended up sending them to federal prison for about fifteen and a half years, nine and a half on one and six on the other. And, so, not on any tax charges, just on to get them off the street. K? I think they had 90 charges against one of my teachers, Glenn Ambor, who's still alive, actually.
So, anyway, that's where I became associated with this, and it was the tax question or part of it that kept driving me for all these years. And now after thirty years, I finally understand why. And the tax system is the Achilles heel of their entire system because they create the credit initially. You know, you've heard there's no money. There's only credit, Austin.
[00:31:03] Unknown:
I have not heard that.
[00:31:05] Unknown:
You've never heard that? Well, there is no money. There's only credit. We're in a debt Well, I'll I'll tell you what. I believe it. Okay. Well, yeah, because you all you're the alter ego. You sell the opposite. You sell Austrian. We're in Kinsey. Okay. And, like, I've got this little trick that I developed years ago and I carry a $19.95 silver dollar with me. No. I don't now. I used to, which makes it look very used. You know? And so, and then I'd have a dollar bill. My wife had a very, very popular consignment store she owned in North Atlanta. It was the second or third most popular consignment store in the whole city of Atlanta.
And she had a lot of she's a very devout Christian, had a lot of Christian gal friends and stuff. And so, I would mainly do this in in her store a lot. I'd be in the store for some reason and one of their friends and they go, Roger, Roger, come show them your trick. So what I do, Austin, is take the silver dollar on on a metal preferably a metal surface because it rings out so nice, and you know this. You're in the metals business. You flip that thing and let it spin, and as it settles out, there's there's just no sound like that in the world, really.
And, so they pick it up, and they go, wow. I bet this is old. And I say, well, what's the date on it? Go 1995. I say, what's, what is it in big letters on the front in God We Trust? What I can't remember what else is on the front, but on the back, it says one ounce fine silver, $1, United States Of America. So the best thing is to get them holding that in their one of their hands. And then you hand them a dollar bill, and you go, well, what does it say? You've seen a few of these before. Yeah. What's it say in big letters on the front? Some folks will pick up Federal Reserve note. Most won't.
And and because I emphasize big letters. You know? United States Of America, $1. So I go, well, they both say United States Of America, and they both say $1. Correct? I go, yeah. They got them in each hand now. Correct. And, and you go, and you gotta take my word from it for that they come both come from the treasury and the the mint mint department department of minutes. And they go, okay. And then back then when I started this, I would say, why does it take seven of these dollars to buy one of these dollars? And they're sitting there with both of them in their hands, and they're presented with the dialectic right there. And I've seen my mother, particularly when she was alive and I showed her this, I saw the her eyes roll into the back of her hand.
Okay? And so today, when I use that, and I've used it a little bit recently in the situation I'm in down here in Ecuador. And, I, I say, why does it take 45 of these dollars to buy one of these dollars? So what you're confronted with is the Austrian system and the Kinsey and system. Head up. And you if you play with that and practice it, you'll you'll freak people out, man, because they have no idea of this discrepancy and disparity. So, anyway, that's one way to illustrate the purpose. Where do we start? Let me let me go back and start, Austin, with you, and you can get this information on the website. I did a, probably, one of the better interviews I've ever done with, Badass Uncle Sam. Do you know who Badass Uncle Sam is?
[00:34:30] Unknown:
I have not heard of Badass. I mean, Uncle Sam. Yes. Badass uncle Sam unfamiliar.
[00:34:35] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he's a guy, older guy down in New Orleans, and he takes a cart with all kinds of freedom stuff, pamphlets, and he goes down by the market in the French Quarter dressed up in some kind of Uncle Sam outfit and just talks to people on the street. K? He's, he's on Band. Video. There he's one of the although on the fringe, one of the, InfoWars guys. He's got his own channel over there. He heard me, and he wanted to do an interview. And that that's what I'm gonna suggest if you go back and wanna listen to this, which I'm pretty sure you probably will. You that's the one I'd suggest to listen to. Now the reason that one's so important, there's a number of good ones on there.
John b Wells and the gal that Paul alluded to, Diana Spingola that just recently passed. There's a real good interview with her a couple years ago, and some others, Tom Dee, who may or may not be with us today that runs RBN. And he'd been he'd been messing with this stuff for forty years. Okay? And when he finally people kept urging us. Hey. Listen to Roger. Listen to Roger. So finally, I got his attention, and and he said, I've been looking for this for forty years. I've got the answer that the whole patriot community is looking for. K? On how here's the question. How does that unelected bureaucrat over there, some agency, how does he have the power to take existing legislation, re, reconfigure it to his his perceptions, and then put it out in the form of regulation and attach that and enforce it on me.
What gives him that power? That's the question, really. K? So without jumping right into that, I'm gonna tell you that it's very confusing because of the way they've set it up. Austin, how how old are you? I'm 32. Oh, man. So wonderful. I'm just so grateful. Julie, thank you so much. Austin, where do you live? What part of the country?
[00:36:38] Unknown:
So I'm over here in, Santa Monica, which is the West part of, Los Angeles.
[00:36:44] Unknown:
Okay. So you're out there on the Left Coast. Okay. I'm not gonna ask you. Hey. If you wanna plug your company if you wanna plug your company, I'll I'll be happy to let you do that here, okay, for our audience. But let's get into this a little bit. When was the first time you remember seeing Alice in Wonderland?
[00:37:04] Unknown:
Oh, I I feel like every other kid growing up on Disney in the nineties.
[00:37:08] Unknown:
So I'd say mid nineties, maybe late nineties. I believe it came out in the sixties. I it was one of their first ones. Right? Oh, well, Disney? Well, the story's been around for some time, but, yeah, I guess. I don't know the history. I thought it was earlier than that. But Alice in Wonderland has everything in it that our current situation is based on. Okay? Let me, go into a little bit of background on there's a guy, a professor pardon me? You you need sleep?
[00:37:39] Unknown:
Just saying a deep sleep. Oh, boy. No. No. No. No. The the the story of Alice in Wonderland just
[00:37:47] Unknown:
sorry. I I didn't mean to interrupt. Well, that's okay. I'm gonna just tell you what you're not seeing there. The original working title of Alice in Wonderland was through the looking glass, looking glass being a mirror. Right? So if you're through the looking glass on the opposite side, everything would be opposites, wouldn't it? Yes. Okay. Well, that's what's going on. It's that simple, really. That's why people say, well, that's exactly the opposite of what's going on. That's because of this. Okay? And, so, the idea was was written by a guy named Lewis Carroll. That's his pen name. I don't remember his name. He had two daughters.
And he lived pretty close to Oxford evidently because his best friend, was a a guy named Russ Ruskin, John Ruskin. You probably never heard his name. He also, was the teacher that taught a guy named Cecil Rhodes, and taught him about a plan to try and take over the world and install the English empire back to its former glory. Now he would go over once a week to Lewis Carroll's house and teach his daughters watercoloring. Well, no doubt he stayed around and had tea with, with their dad. So, if you go into, into Alice in Wonderland, I'm gonna give you a couple of quotes out of there. Okay?
And I'm gonna tell you what they're doing. Alice, at the first of the movie, if you look at the Disney one, she's being tutored by her teacher down at the bottom of a sloping green hill. And at the top, there's a big tree with a little branch parallel big branch parallel to the ground. And, she daydreams like many students do, and she daydreams herself up onto that branch. And she's got her cat with her. And the dialogue goes like this. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be.
You see? K. Now let's go back over that slower. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is, the illusion, because everything would be what it isn't, the reality. And then what it is, the illusion, it wouldn't be. You see? Now you see it probably a little bit better. I'm gonna tell you how they're doing this in just a second. Humpty Dumpty and in a dialogue with Alice later on in the movie Mhmm. And he says let me take a little poetic liberty here. When I use, the word resident, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I say it means, no more, no less.
But the question is, said Alice, how can you make the word resident mean so many different things? The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who's to be master? That's all. It's a political document, and they're telling you the what their plan is in there, and they totally base it on opposites. Now you can go look this up. You can go look this up on the Internet and put in lady Rothschild's costume ball. It was back in the eighties or something. The Rothschilds had a costume ball and and, shows pictures of their gaudy outfits and eating pies made in the shape of humans and stuff like that.
And, at in one of the articles in the first paragraph, it says, lady Rothschild was so clever. She wrote the invitations backwards, so you'd have to look at them in a mirror. Opposites. Opposites. Opposites. Everything's opposite. It's really important because their whole game plan this is the foundation. This is why everything seems opposite because it is, and it's done to fool you. Okay? Now what are they doing and how are they doing it? The, thanks to a listener. The, name of what they're doing, if you wanna go look it up, is called equivocation.
Equivocation. You know, when you say you're equivocating between three or four different options for a question, you can't make up your mind? Well, that's equivocating. This is equivocation, and they always do it in the exact same way. And it take whatever the the the word is, and they go and get a 180 degree opposite definition. That's really important. It's always totally in the opposite direction. K? And so this is a tool for us now that we know what they're doing is you go and and use this formula to undo it. It's real simple. K? And I'll show you show you what they're doing. They're taking keywords, and they're assigning opposite definitions to them.
And with very sophisticated Pavlovian conditioning, condition response, they implant the opposite definition in your subconscious. Now the biblical route to this is James one eight, and it says a double minded man is uncertain in all, not some, not part, all of his ways. A double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways, and that's what they've done. They've made us all double minded. We're all carrying opposite definitions. Your sub your conscious at 10% of your consciousness may recognize it, but your subconscious with this implanted in it, 90% overrides it. That's why people have some sort of a you know, they don't know it. They're not aware of it, but there's just confusion of the mind. Alright?
So what you do is you find these words, sis United States resident. Oh, here's a good one right up your alley. Hey, money. You ever talk about money, Austin? Yeah. Do you call it money or do you call it debt, what it is? How can money positive go and silver what you sell? How can it be debt? How can it be debt? Yet we call it money. You say? I do. It depends on the conversation, but I know where you're headed. Okay. So that's what I'm telling you. I'm giving you a little bit of a paving so that when I tell you what they've done, you'll understand it better. You won't be as confused. Because what I'm gonna do with you, if you and I continue the conversation, which you're here and I figure we will, is is I'm gonna turn your world from being upside down.
I'm gonna turn it to being right side up. Now because you're in an illusion. We've all lived in illusion. We call these were we call debt money, and we say we're free. Well, those are the two principles their whole illusion's based on. Okay? So, so, anyway, that's the part mainly, I guess, about I think I covered most of it about the, the Wizard of Oz and how they've done this or Alice in Wonderland, I mean, and how they've done this because now you know what they've done. Now I'm gonna show you how and how they've done it. Okay? So, Austin, let me ask you a couple of questions, if I could. You've been asked them all your life. Okay?
And if you would, and I know you're an honest guy. You seem like a great guy, a young guy. Are you do you consider yourself a truth seeker?
[00:45:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. You know, it's really hard to turn a blind eye once you once you see, a lot of the things out there that have especially transpired here in the past five years. But Yeah. I'd say, you know, 2008 was a, or yeah, September 11 was a a pretty big eye opener. Yeah. And, kind of a I I was definitely a little too young to really kinda put the puzzle pieces together, but I did stumble upon a few videos, that seemed at that point, not really well done, but kind of having some friends, mention a few things, and then I kind of got a little bit more back into it. I think what they did to Bernie Sanders was really the eye opener, had him succeeding to, Hillary Clinton there for the, the Democratic nomination.
Mhmm. And at that point, it was just eyes wide open. COVID happened. Looking about a lot of, what do you call, reporters getting snatched in China. A lot of the links and nothing really made sense and really all the charades that followed it. So now it's full steam ahead and trying to just make sure I, don't stumble upon it in into anything that's
[00:46:42] Unknown:
not by my own doing. Well, I'm gonna try and keep you out of some of that stuff and and and and try and pull you out of the illusion and, you being the victim of this. Okay? So could I ask you, if you would answer these two questions the way you always have? And be honest. I know you're honest. I'm just asking you, and I I know you will be. Okay? So are you a citizen of The United States? Yeah. Are you a resident? I am.
[00:47:10] Unknown:
As far as I'm knowing.
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Okay. Notice they never ask you a resident. Normally, I would say yes, but I'm kind of like But now you're on now you're on thin ice. Right? Now. We're not going to bust your testicles. Did you notice that they never asked you, are you a resident of California? Do they, they just ask you if you're a resident and then underneath those two questions, which most people would be afraid to answer no, they ask you to sign something, don't they? They always want you to sign something. For for which party get up? Are you they ask two questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Answer yes or no. And so and then a signature. Oh, yes. Yes. Right? Mhmm. Okay. Well, unknowingly, you've been tricked.
And when you say yes, and I'm gonna illustrate that in just a second, what you've done is you've agreed to their fraudulent contract that you're in a condition of voluntary servitude. Now let me ask you those two questions. Well, let me just ask you this one. What is a citizen of The United States, Austin? You agreed that you are one. What is it? Oh,
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yeah. Good question, four.
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Okay. Well, let me I'm a help you. It's a it's a great question. Oh, yeah. It's an important question. Okay. Let me rephrase those questions. Okay? Are you a citizen of The United States? And I'll tell you exactly where this comes from, fourteenth amendment, first clause. Austin, are you in the same political status as former black slaves after the Civil War who were assigned federal citizenship with civil rights? Would you answer that question yes?
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I I would have to say yes.
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You are? Just just based off of what I know. Okay. Well, you Yeah. Well, listen. Whatever you are is your choice. You've got the power. That's one of the things I'm gonna show you. So if if you're adamant as I had a guy go, no. I'm a citizen United States. Well, hell, I'm not gonna argue with you if you wanna be a slave. If you wanna listen and see if that's what you are, let me ask you the same question I asked Austin here. Can you define the citizen of The United States? No. Well, look, we've got we've got a couple of the brothers on here with us, old friends of mine, but you don't sound very black to me, Austin. So this is a political question. And the question is, where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties? And we can get into that a little bit deeper. This is the law part of it. But let's go back to the fourteenth amendment here and see if I can go over that.
First clause is all we ever mess with, really. All persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside. There's the resident question. But it doesn't mean where you live. K? You don't know what it means. It means what set of laws do you live under. K? So let's go back. There's eight legal landmines in that sentence. You'd never spot them. They don't teach a lot of them in law school. We've got one of my favorite questions is to ask a patriot guy. So what's the legal meaning behind the word person?
And do you know we've got students here who've asked sitting judges, and they don't know that? They do not understand. They've not been taught the legal meaning behind the word person because it doesn't mean us. It's legal person. From where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties? If you're a federal citizen, you get your rights from the fourteenth amendment, that little clause I just gave you right there, and they're not rights. They're civil rights, capital, small r, and it's the rights that we have among the other citizens in the society. Now we've always been taught that we have god given rights, haven't we, Austin? And we got constitutional
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protection. Uh-huh. Absolutely.
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Well, if not, if you're under the fourteenth amendment, you're under the federal government. Because if you're under the constitution, you have natural god given rights and you owe god your duties, and they can't make all these little bullshit laws and attach them to you because they don't have any jurisdiction over you. You gave them the jurisdiction and the authorization when you answered those two questions, yes, and signed something. You told them, hey. Yes. I I I agree that, I I'm a federal citizen under these layers of fraud. And the second one, are you a resident?
You're you're really, telling them, yes. You can govern me under the laws of Washington DC, the federal laws. But what we wanna do is get you if you want to. If you don't want to, I don't I don't care, you know, honestly. But in the big picture. But we're get you from that federal citizenship back to the original one under God, which was called in the old days a state citizen. Now it's referred to and labeled as a national. Another one of these word word trick things. So Austin, are are I've I've just scratched the surface on this. I'm trying to just hit the high points for you. Okay? But, please, if you've got any questions up to some point, let me know, and we'll try and address them because I'm gonna show you now how they did it. Okay?
So are are we on the same page up to this point? We are. The, the one thing that I do wanna reference
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here, that, a friend of mine back in the day had, pointed the light to is, it it's when we sign the back of our Social Security card. Right? That's when you kind of transfer over your rights. Am I on the same page there? No. That's not in that's not correct. That's not what answers the question.
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You having a Social Security card or signing it or having an account does not give the bureaucrat the power to do all that. K? It's just another contract. And if you go back to, actually to the Social Security page, you can go back. It's called an SS five, I think. And, they'll ask you, are you a national? One of the questions. Ask citizen of The United States or not. And then they'll ask you, are you a national? And you got a little pull down arrow there, and they'll say, of which country? So you see, anybody can contract with Social Security. And that doesn't give them if you've got an account and you're a Frenchman, and you did this for whatever reason, that doesn't give them the authority to come over and enforce American man made laws on you. So it is a way I can show you what this is. I could get off into an explanation we found, but this goes all the way back to Jesus' time in the Pharisees.
They had a social system in the Pharisees' time in Jesus' time too. Yeah? And if you became a Christian, by the way, they kicked you out of it. So what they've done is we can go back to from the start of the country, we had the First Bank of the United States, the Second Bank of the United States, which, of of, Andrew Jackson squashed. And then, then then we didn't have another attempt at least well, they did. They had another attempt right before the civil war. I could tell you that story. I don't wanna sidetrack us at this point, but if you keep coming back, I'll I'll tell it. He's a really important story about it it revolves around Thomas Jefferson, actually.
So then we had this, conflagration called an I I it's a war of northern aggression is what it was. They call it a civil war. There's nothing civil about it. I have come to the conclusion after all these years of research that the civil war was instigated and fought so that they could get the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments in the constitution so they could control our country eighty years later. And through the reserve currency of the world, the US dollar, which we as slaves are collateral for, they control the world. So I think that they cooked up the civil war. That's why nobody, I don't believe, has ever been able to give you a definitive answer on what caused it. This behind in the aggravation, I believe, my belief, I think I can give you a strong strong evidence on that thesis that, they did this so that they could control the world through it because they knew exactly what they were doing.
K? And the my proof to that, to buttress it, is just about the same time. Have you ever heard of Cyrus Scofield?
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It rings a a saint bell.
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This this Scofield Bible, would that ring it louder?
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He was a Darryl preacher. Bit more. You said the Scofield Bible?
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Yes. That's the whole basis of a Okay. Of a religious tenant they call today dispensationalism. And that's this thing that Israel's gonna be the great country and this, that, and the other. They picked up a itinerant preacher, I guess. He was quite a scoundrel. He had had two or at least two families and left him. He'd been, you know, drinking and all this stuff. Well, the bad guys found him and totally took him to New York, groomed him, made him a member of the Lotus Club, a very exclusive club up there. Well, I know where we are now. Are we saying goodbye to anybody, Paul, or no? No. We're not saying goodbye to anybody. Sorry about that. So, Cyrus Scofield was commandeered, if you will, and taken to New York, and he he wrote a Bible called the Scofield Bible. And the Scofield Bible is his a Bible that he interpreted, but it's not in the Bible. It's in the footnotes.
And it's in the footnotes to the Scofield Bible that all this Israel this, Israel that. And, you know, if you don't bless Israel, you'll won't be blessed. And all the garbage that they pull out, like, just like Ted Cruz did on the Tucker Carlson thing recently. So so what they're, doing there, and I kinda lost my train of thought with that. So give me just a second. I'll see if I can get back on thought on track. They started the civil war so they could set these things up knowing this is a very long term project. Okay. So the Civil War and after the Civil War, here's where this citizen of The United States comes in.
Because before the Civil War, there was no federal political status. In essence, the people that lived in DC and the territories were stateless. They didn't have any kind of governing thing. It was a bunch of people. Usually, they had backgrounds to the states and the state citizenship. But of all the people that were born and raised in DC and the territories, they they there was nothing that they could cling to where I get my rights here and owe my duties here because they were stateless. There wasn't a a a form, a structure over them. There was only the other earlier called the state citizen that got their laws from god and owed their duties to god. And then that's what the part of the civil war did, was it took all of the slaves and that that, that our good brethren, the Jews, brought over.
200 of, the Jewish slave trade. That's what it was. 90% of the ships were owned by Jews. They had Jewish captain and they had Jewish crews. That was for two hundred years. And to the effect that all the slave markets in North And South America, Savannah, up there, Newport, Rhode Island was one of the first ones. Any slave port, North or South, hemisphere were closed on Jewish holidays. K? So they brought all these slaves over and sold them. They had about $20 in them. Boy, you'll like this being a being a money guy. They had about $20 in them and rum or whatever they traded for them. Usually, it was the blacks on the coast that would go in and raid the other tribes that they were rivals with, and they'd capture them and bring them and sell them off into slavery and get rid of them. Well, that's a pretty good way to get rid of your enemies, I guess.
But, anyway, they had about $20 in each one, and they sold them for an average of 2,000 when they hit the slave markets. That's pretty good ROI, Austin?
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I think so. Okay.
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So that's what they did. And, you know, most of the, plantations, there's only a few, the minuscule 1%, maybe two, that had even more than a couple of slaves. Some of them had just one or two, and if they'd spend that kind of money in that kind in those days, excuse me, to acquire a slave, they're not gonna get out there and beat them up and stuff. They got a lot of money in them. It's like your pet dog, man. You got your pet rare breed there. You're gonna take real good care of it. Comb it all the time. Keep it washed, all that kind of stuff. Well, that's what they did. A lot of those blacks became part of the families.
Actually, and and almost all of the Jews owned owned 40 to 50 slaves, actually. So, anyway, that was what led up to the civil war. And after the civil war, they they came back and said, well, it's to give these people who had no political rights at all, they were slaves, to give them a new form of citizenship. Well, really what they did was they took them off of the southern plantation, and they put them on the federal plantation, in essence. I I mean, did you hear Trump say the other day the fourteenth amendment was for the children of slaves?
He said it twice. Yes. You did what he he has no idea how damned accurate he is. He has no idea how accurate he is. Now what was your comment? I stepped on you there. No. No. No. No. I was, I was also confirming that he has been saying that a lot recently just due to the,
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what was it, the, the immigration laws.
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Well, it was from the court case that dealt with this, national injunctions on birthright citizenship. Now this isn't birthright citizenship. We're gonna get into that in a minute. But it's the migrants that have had babies since they came up there, and their their parents were illegal here. So how can the child be legal? And that was the question. The Supreme Court settled it. It'll they gave them options around it. One New Hampshire judge is already starting to set up a class action. They gave them a couple of, options to get around it. But regardless, Fred, this point, the children of the immigrants are not citizens. Now, evidently, this birthright citizenship thing in it is really important.
This birthright citizenship thing is gonna go on being discussed and possibly litigated, and we're gonna see it next year. And we're overjoyed here because this is a really important thing that really hadn't been discussed much in over a hundred years, about a hundred and twenty years or so, actually, since, 1898. So, so that's going on, and that's where that was from. And I do hope they explore it. But the principle is, originally, that you had some sort of presence here in the country and that you, had a child. And the child was born, and it it there's two ways to pass a regimen, Austin.
One is called jus sangenius, and the other is called jus tierra or they sometimes say jus sole. And one is by blood, sangui in in Spanish is blood. Sanginius is that means your parents were this is why if you, have a heritage in Greece, Spain, Italy, Poland, I think think there's a couple other ones over there. If your grandparents, for exist example, were Polish, you get a Polish citizenship. That's because it's transferred through the generations by blood. K? The other one is by hereditament. The other one is where you're born. That's just Tierra land. Tierra's land in Spanish. And, it's just Tierra. Just, j u s is law, by the way, Austin. So just Tierra means that where you're born is where the country of where you get your rights and all that stuff. K?
So, this is what the whole premise of anchor babies you you're familiar with the term anchor babies?
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First time.
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No? Really? Okay. Well, it's been a big deal for quite a while. Yeah. I'll be you don't live next to the border, kinda. But here with this birthright citizenship and this fourteenth amendment, all persons born in The United States okay. That's what it says. Even though that's not The United States and Arizona, Arizona is, it's in The United States Of America, but it's not The United States because The United States is strictly federal territory and its influence over that through a term called jurisdiction, which is gonna become very important. K? And so, anchor babies are when, let's say, a Mexican mom wades across the river. She's about to have her water break. She does and has the child there in Arizona or Southern California, but the parents are still Mexican nationals, aren't they? The child's a citizen of The United States, but the parents are Mexican nationals.
And now they can bring in 25 family members and everything else. Right? Well, that's Anchor Babies. Okay? And what we're finding out Okay. I never read you follow me. What we're finding out that I never even realized is, through one of your good California law professors at a small school out there, professor Eastman, constitutional professor, lawyer, and, he's looked into this deeply. And in one of his talks, he said, I can't find where this started applying to anchor babies. He said, it appears that it happened in the fifties, the late fifties, or the sixties. You don't understand what's going on yet. That's a really important part of the timeline.
Okay? But that's what he said. He said, I could only find it very vaguely here. If you go back to the previous examples that have been litigated, some very famous cases out of the Supreme Court on this, and the one primarily, there's several, but, this one is called US versus Wong Kim Ark. And, it came out of California. And this is the main case that all the Obama birthers you're probably a a little bit younger back then to pay attention to that stuff, but, you know, there's a big thing. Obama doesn't have a birth certificate. And, so this was the case that all the Obama birthers used. It's probably the preeminent case in the history of the country on, on these issues, citizenship, denizenship, etcetera, etcetera. And, so, this question, it probably going to be, I hope, litigated more in at least the next term of the Supreme Court, but that's the question. And Wong Kim Ark said here, I'll tell you the story.
Wong Kim Ark's parents were Chinese. They immigrated to The US. They were here, I don't know how long, at least established themselves. I don't know whether they were technically residents. I don't know what the laws were for that sort of thing back then, but they were in that huge Chinese, invasion, basically. A lot of Americans thought that, made San Francisco what it was. K? And so, they came over. They had Wong. Wong grew up a bit, wanted to go back. They're still Chinese citizens, but they've got an established presence in San Francisco. And so, Wong wanted to go see the grandparents. So he went back to China, came back. No problem. Let him in. Couple of years went on, and at that point, the, uplash backlash from the Chinese immigration and there was a lot of discrimination on those folks. It was really a pronounced situation.
And the Chinese well, what happened was that was building. Wong went to China again a second time, came back, and they wouldn't let him in. He's I'm a citizen of The United States. I was born here. You let me in before. Nope. Things have changed. So the Chinese, the only thing they had as a potential remedy was to file court suits, and they filed them by the thousands. 10,000 or more were blocking up and plugging up. You can imagine what the jurisdiction what the court system was back, you know, a hundred and twenty years ago. Had the court system dockets totally, totally jammed up. And so two cases, there's another one that doesn't really have the impact on what we do that that we do, but this other one and Wong Kim Ark made it to the Supreme Court.
And, they decided that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of The United States. Okay? And, it's a super important ruling, and that's what we're dealing with now. We're we're the parents these migrants, when they came over, were they established? Well, no. They broke the law getting into the country. And so they've got a kid that is now a citizen. Well, how do you get somebody that's illegal legal, you know, when they're here illegally? So this is the big contention, man. It's it's it's topical right now. Okay? So, that was the rule. Now underneath this, the only place in history of the world that this just tiara has been applicable up to now.
By the way, Canada just instituted birthright citizenship last week. First time. So, what what is underneath this, the only other society in history that ever had this as one of its fixtures was the feudal system. How much do you know about the feudal system, Austin?
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I'm gonna safely assume not as much as you.
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That would be a that would be a very safe assumption. The feudal system arose out of the downfall of Rome. And as the Gosse and the Visigoths came down to and and prayed on the Romans, they mainly didn't go down into Rome. At first, they cut off the cities to Gaul. Gaul is Spain. And, there along the Mediterranean, they would come down and what they do is they cut off the road to the city and they'd put the little town or whatever it was, they'd sequester it and surround it and put it under siege. The people that could get out, they had two choices. They'd go jump in the Mediterranean because that's all along the Mediterranean there. They could, French Riviera, you'd call it now. They could jump into the Spanish. They could jump into the Mediterranean and swim with the sharks.
Not probably a too desirable an option. Or they could go inland. As they went inland back into lower reaches of Europe, most of the land was owned by former Roman statesmen and Roman generals. They'd give them land as a reward for their victories. And so the people trying to flee the Gosse and the Visigoths would go to the people that owned the land, and they go, the not Gosse and the Visigoths are coming. They're really killing people and stuff. I need some protection. And and, the guy that owned the land goes, well, damn. I think I need it too. So I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. I'll give you protection if you give me allegiance.
And that is the formula that's still applicable today. That is the root formula of that mysterious word called jurisdiction. Protection for allegiance. Allegiance for protection. It's an yeah. And, Austin, have you ever seen those old movies where where the guy has his has his chest chest armor on? He and he's talking to the the guy, and he bangs his fist on this armor. He goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. Well, that's what's going on here. K? Liege Absolutely. L l l e I g e is the root word of this word, allegiance. And allegiance for protection and protection for allegiance, I cannot impress upon you how important this is.
Because when you bring in one of those elements, the other is brought in automatically. K? And that's what you told them when you signed those things. You said, I give you I give you allegiance. I'm a citizen of United States, and you signed it. Well, hell Austin ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no damned excuse. I'm gonna take him at his word. If you tell me that you are in the same condition as a former black slave, Austin, I'm gonna believe you. Yeah. Here. Here's the deal. See, here's the big secret. Here's the big secret. We've got the power. They don't have the power.
We've got it. We've been tricked out of it in this little scheme. Now they've got it because we gave it to them. It's voluntary. It has to be voluntary to be constitutional. Take it away. It's real simple. They hide it real well, very effectively, and I'm just so fortunate to have been to my knowledge, I'm the only guy that's ever beat these son of a bitches in history Okay? And, so take it away. They can't say anything. It take this is what it takes to get out of the federal system, the taxation system, all of it. Austin, you're not going to believe it. But I promise you it's true. I can show you on a state department website.
K? I, Austin the metals kid, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national but not a citizen in The United States. And you can either send it in like that, you can go get it, notarized, but you send it to the secretary of state, and you're out of the federal system, Austin. All of it except for two obscure sections of the Internal Revenue Code, eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, which are both constitutional taxes. And if you owe those taxes, you need to pay them. But all the other tax code, all your capital gains, and everything else, you don't owe anymore. How's that sound?
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It's a it's a taxpayer, taxpayer's dream.
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Well, it's a it's a non taxpayer's dream. It's kinda like a wet dream Alright. People. Okay? And, but that's what it is. And I'm gonna show you I'm gonna show you in a minute after I explain a little bit more to you. I'm gonna show you where that is. Okay? So you can go look at this. You go check it out. You can ask your tax oh, they won't know. They won't believe you. K? But, anyway, I'll show you where that is in just a second. And once you go through this whole process, that here's what happens to you. People say, well, what are the advantages of being a national? Well, first thing it does is it sets you back under god's law and authority where you were meant to be at your birth, but this whole scheme has stolen that from you at birth.
All persons born applying just tiara, which is the feudal system underneath. So you're born because your parents were in this condition. We've all been in the condition since March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. You remember? Oh, boy. Well, this is so right up your alley, Austin. Do you remember when Roosevelt took the gold? Well, I mean, I know you don't remember. You've heard about it. Right? Right. Absolutely. Okay. What happened that day? They the bankruptcy of The United States in the bond market. Okay? Now let's go on that premise. So Yeah. Let me explain this to you just a little bit. I'll show you two different approaches to it.
You sell gold. That's your business. Well, gold is real money. Okay? And free people get to use gold because it's real, and they don't have an encumbrance or a citizen any any kind of encumbrance on them. They're free people. They use real money to go buy things that they own. Right? Free people use real money to buy things, not discharge the debt to actually purchase it because they don't have a property right on them. They can actually buy things, pay for them, and own them. K? So this is pre March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. Now that was called the bank holiday. Have you heard stuff about this since you've been in this business?
Yeah. I I could touch on a few points there. Okay. Well, let's just go over it and just make sure we're confirmed with both of us agreeing. Okay? Because I'm just showing you technically what happened. Now if you go to Black's Law Dictionary and look under the bank holiday of 1933, it will tell you and I can't give you all the verbiage here. I'll give you the important part paraphrasing a bit. The, the banks were all closed for five days and later reopened under regulations issued by the secretary of the treasury. But if you had gold in your safe deposit box when you went back to the bank, whatever value of gold you had at $20 an ounce, they'd left you paper, Federal Reserve notes.
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Right.
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And so do you know that there wasn't a secretary of the treasury before March in 1933, and there were no such thing as regulations? Because there were no agencies. So this a pivotal day right here. Correct. And the banks opened, and they came back with Federal Reserve notes. Now Federal Reserve note, unbeknownst to the people at the time and even today, is you're the collateral for those. When it says, when it says, how does it say on the front? Legal tender, etcetera, etcetera. And it says it's a a oh, I'm getting a little a little lost in my thoughts. Legal tender for all debts public in private? Well, it says that, and and it says, well, it's a guarantee.
It's a guarantee that the money is good, and I just can't think of it. But Full faith and credit of The United States. Well, I heard that, but that's not what I'm looking for. Okay? But underneath that dollar, for every bill that's put out into circulation, there's a bond. Well, there's your full faith and credit of The United States is the bond. The bondholders are gonna get their payment. It's not on the dollar. The dollar is represented by the bond. And underneath it says, like like, Paul just said, and they guarantee your dollars. Well, that's not the dollar you're spending. It's the bond underneath because the bond market is the big kahuna.
You know, I'm sure, Austin, in your line of work, that the bond market is five to 10 or more times bigger than the stock market. The bond market's the big kahuna. Austin, isn't bond the root word of bondage?
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You can make that correlation.
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Okay. Well, I'm pretty sure it's the root word of it. So we've got $38,000,000,000,000 worth of outstanding debt now, and it's all in the bond market. K? So here is the big kahuna is the bond market right here. And so maybe if you wanna come back another day, we can get into how the whole monetary system is set up. It's information, I would think, would be very beneficial for you because I doubt if you know all this. Okay? Absolutely. So what they've got now, we'll go back to the fourteenth amendment, all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Notice, Austin, it does not say all persons born in The United born or naturalized in The United States, comma, are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, does it? It says and.
If there's some that are and subject, doesn't that automatically mean there's some that are and not subject?
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Yes.
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Well, that's who we are. We're the ones that are not subject to it because we didn't answer the two questions and sign something. And then we went back if we had, which all of us have our earlier life, we went back and corrected them that that that may have been our choice at the time, but it ain't anymore, and we're gonna volunteer out. And do you know the most marvelous thing, Austin? They can't do a damn thing about it. Tell me. It's in their laws. It's basic our choice. There's tons of layers of fraud involved. So fraud vitiates any contract ab initio from the beginning. I'm sure you know.
Know. So all we have to do is tell them that we wanna be this. It exposes their fraud. They not only can't say no because we've got the power they've tricked it out of us, but also because it's the truth. And so we submitted to the highest authority in the land. And do you know what the biggest, baddest son of a bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth? You know what they do, Austin? They stand totally mute. They don't say anything. They don't object. They don't come bust your eggs. They don't do anything because they can't or else they'll be open tyrants. And they know what happens to open tyrants far better than we do. K?
Right. So this is what happened.
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Yes, Paul. Go ahead. Can I make one suggestion? There's a movie. It's called the Jones Plantation, and it weighs out everything from the beginning from slavery all the way through what the government has done to trick all of us into being slaves. It talks about the currency. It talks about, the deceit, the deception, the fear, the, the pitting, part of the population against the other, you know, kinda like the old crabs in a bucket. You know, one tries to climb out, the rest of them are grabbing him to pull him back. And pulling back in. Well, that's just exactly what I experienced this week here in Ecuador
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with this group of expats, maybe up to occasionally forty, fifty people. But there's these three or four people that were the crabs that tried to pull me back in and I broke away and they asked me to leave and that's fine. But I'm gonna go I'm gonna identify and point out the truth to everybody I can. And if you don't like it, you don't believe it, you've been propagandized, you got all kinds of crap in your subconscious. Oh, there's your god shows the people. I don't care because I got the truth. Then when I make a And it's all brother Jim. Pardon me?
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They wants to make us all brother Jim.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
Okay. She's some awesome okay. So, Austin, this is what's going on. In March after the civil war, they they went ahead and let this lie and and laid down their foundation. Back interestingly enough, the period of the country's some of its greatest prosperity was in the eighteen seventies to the nineteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds when we were on a tariff system. Okay? It was incredibly productive. In fact, I saw a cartoon back in the eighteen seventies, and it showed the well of the senate there. And and and the well in the bottom of the senate was all full of alligators.
And there was so much excess money that they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate off of off of tariffs. So, So, of course, that's what Trump's trying to move us into. Well, then they got rid of that on 1913, and we came in with the Federal Reserve Act and which Woodrow Wilson passed the sorry traders bastard. And, I hear then they took about, oh, ten about fifteen or a little more years until 1933. They bankrupted the stock mark they bank they did the stock market crash. They opened up the oh, hell. Microsoft. I see you.
Okay. Boy, I love Microsoft. So they, they waited until 1913. They got control of the Congress. They passed it. I'm sure you know the story of the Federal Reserve Act, Creature from Jekyll Island or Secrets of the Federal Reserve, more, more more accurate. So they got that in, and then they took about, almost twenty years to go up to March '19 '33. They bankrupted the country in the bond market and not the stock market. Didn't do it. This doesn't have anything to do with the stock market crash. There's a bond market crash, which, every country has bankruptcy laws. And though they didn't go through, to my knowledge, any any court type procedure, they, of course, wanted it quiet. They just bankrupted the country in the bond market. I've got a you know who congressman Louis t McFadden was? Have you heard of him, Austin?
[01:24:14] Unknown:
Louis t McFadden. Which state was he from?
[01:24:17] Unknown:
From Pennsylvania. The Northeast section was his district. He was a former banker. He'd worked his way up from infancy trash cans to the president of the bank. He ran for congress, got elected in about 1915. And back then, the house had a bank a bank committee. He was the president of the bank committee from when he got elected until either what what I've read, they killed him or somebody, Larry, said that he got voted out. It's hard for me to imagine him them being powerful enough to vote him out because one of the things I read about him, Austin, is kinda incredible. The last time he ran for congress, he was nominated by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Populist Party.
All three parties in his district nominated the same guy. I've never heard of that happening before. K? He's the one if you go look him up on the Internet, and he'll you'll see some of his famous speeches. One like the Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper. So he was very oriented. He was quite outspoken. We've got a book, that is one of my favorite books I've ever read in this since I've been in this. Paul's got it on the website in a PDF. It's called the 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden, and they pulled 31 speeches to the house between 31 and '33. It's all on this, how the BIS was was started. All all this stuff's in there. So if you really wanna dig deep and get a very accurate historical perspective, the collective speeches of Lewis t McFadden is the book. K? It's it's just fantastic. In fact, in there, McFadden says one of his speeches says, ladies and gentlemen, the house of the United States is bankrupt. The English auditors are in the treasury. There's 21 French limousines waiting outside.
There's your bankruptcy. K? He also said in one of his speeches, they're erecting a Machiavellian feudal system, which is what we have. When you're born, all persons born, you're automatically because of the bankruptcy and the debt, we've got this straight from the bad guys pen, they put all of us in, all of our parents or grandparents as sureties for this debt under the fourteenth amendment as citizens of The United States because buried underneath birthright citizenship is the feudal system. Now they have a property right in you. You have been put into a position at birth of voluntary servitude, which is lawful in the constitution in two places.
If I told you slavery was was lawful in the constitution, you probably wouldn't agree with that. Okay? Might might not. You could come back and say, yeah. I'm a financial slave. Nobody. You're a lot more than a financial slave. You're actually a it's called the English variety of slavery. It's the feudal system. It's gotta be voluntary. K? And I can go into the reasons for that. I won't right now. There's a lot of depth here in these these things. We could talk about them for twenty or thirty minutes or hours. Okay? So but underneath hidden underneath the fourteenth amendment, all this birthright citizenship is the feudal system. They let it sit there and wait all the way through the eighteen sixties until 1933.
The country was bankrupt. Now they pull out the fourteenth amendment and put everybody in there as sureties for the debt. So everyone in was put in there automatically at one time, and then every child born since has been born into the condition. That's why they ask you the two questions to get your your confirmation and your consent. So, there's so much here to talk about, you know, really. But here's the deal. The fourteenth amendment is a two prong legal test. I I doubt that you've probably delved much into law or have you, Austin? Surprise me, please.
[01:28:30] Unknown:
Unfortunately, I cannot set the universe.
[01:28:34] Unknown:
I I I think that's really good on one respect because you got a clean slate. You haven't been mucked up with a bunch of crap that's out there. So that's good because I got you first. So I'll fill you full of correct stuff if you wanna be. So the fourteenth amendment says all persons born in that all persons born are naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside. Now let me show you the land mines in here. Person? A person? What person? Is that a person like you and me, or is that a legal person? This is a legal person. You're under the fourteenth amendment. Your legal personality is where you get your rights to know your duties. And if you're a federal citizen, you get them from the fourteenth amendment, and they're called civil rights, not god given rights.
So that's the first one. Person's born. We already gone under born a little bit. Underneath it hidden under a couple of layers is the feudal system, which they're putting you in when you agree to it or at birth and then agree to it. Born or naturalized. Well, used to be they naturalized people when you came on in The States because there wasn't a federal, entity. And now you're all naturalized under the federal thing, which means you automatically are naturalized under the fourteenth amendment. Born or naturalized in The United States. Well, which United States? The the the is it The United States, or is that The United States Of America?
Well, it's The United States. It's the federal United States. The nation is The United States Of America. And that, when you file this paperwork, is what you go back to and you remove yourself from the federal zone and from federal jurisdiction. And then comma, so there's a lot of, there's a number of different meanings to the word United States. It could be taken in a number of different ways. Go back and look in a Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition or before. They'll quote you a Supreme Court case that tells you that. So that's the first clause. Now if you get into law, Austin, a lot of times they'll say, well, if we're trying to achieve and identify this result, we'll have a number of tests.
Was the guy on this land? Did he have a gun? And if all those tests, then yes, that applies to him. Well, we're gonna do the same thing here. The fourteenth amendment is a two pronged, two test sentence. You gotta be born or naturalized in The United States first, and then you gotta be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Remember, it says and the subject. It doesn't say our subject. If it was our subject, we'd all be in it. Correct. But it's and. So somebody's got a choice somewhere because you've gotta do something to make yourself subject to it. That's a big question that's come up in here as of late with this stuff. So you're hearing people, lawyers, educated people supposedly get out and discuss these things, and most of them don't know what the hell they're talking about. I'm a tell you right right on. K? Because they don't even know what a damn person is.
A person legally is is here's a little law class for you, Austin. And the we got listeners other listeners out there. I can't impress upon you how important this is. And only reason I know it's because John Benson was my law teacher. K? A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties, an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. So, example, if you are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, then your legal personality is under the fourteenth amendment as a federal citizen because you receive civil rights under the fourteenth amendment, and you owe the federal government the duty, like filing your taxes, obeying the regulations, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But if you file this paperwork, you're gonna move out of that. You see, it's not am I a person, which is what most of our patriot community people think because they don't even teach this concept in law schools evidently anymore. We got sitting judges that don't know what I'm showing you right now. K? So if you're not that legal, it's not are you a person, it's which person are you. So if you file this paperwork, you will, on your own power and your own discretion, you're gonna move and change your legal personality, and now you're gonna get it back to where it was supposed to be where you received god given rights and you owe god your duties.
So, Austin, let me just ask you as a neophyte here, you don't you have been exposed to a little bit. Would you rather live under god's laws and duties, or do you wanna live under all the federal government and the monsters that run it? Which one would you rather do?
[01:33:18] Unknown:
Well, after being reborn, I've I've definitely learned that regardless whether we want to or not, we're living under God's laws.
[01:33:26] Unknown:
Well, let's put it this way. Once did want to, Okay. Great. Let me just say this. Once you make up your mind what you are, then that's what you are. All you're doing by this other action with paperwork is you're confirming it in a in a a way that they have to recognize and understand. And I love what you said since you've been saved because I I you just you I can tell why you're here. Okay. So now please ask your question or comment. Yes.
[01:33:56] Unknown:
What what I wanted to cover, is the situation at hand that I find myself in. Am I gonna have to go back and revoke some of these?
[01:34:06] Unknown:
No. No.
[01:34:08] Unknown:
No. You do it with the app. Contract or just going forward? Don't click the boxes.
[01:34:13] Unknown:
Well, all of those contracts, remember, any contract that involves fraud is is, ab initio from the beginning. It's void. So any of these other things that you perceive as a contract, if they're based on fraud, they're all void. So your one piece of paper with the secretary of state takes care of all of that. You don't have to do that. And we've never had anybody. I've been teaching this on the air in one way, shape, or form. The reason I understand it is because I've been teaching it so long. You know, if you wanna understand something, teach it. Right? It's because I've been teaching this to these folks for fifteen years.
And do you know we've never had one blowback from the federal government on it? Oh, they try and pull some little bluff stuff, and they're gonna test you maybe if to see if you really know this or if you're just filing paper. But, we've never had one blowback. Well, the IRS never, they try. They didn't know what to do for a number of years because I nail them on their jurisdictional statement. I'll show you that in a minute. But, we've never had anything from them. They're not coming and breaking into people's houses or season stuff. Well, they can't now, and I'll show you by their own regulations.
But, at this point, that's what is going on is they stick you into this at birth. Then as you get to be of age, they ask you the two questions to get your agreement. Now you've agreed to their fraud and given them what they really covet is the consent of the governed. That's why they had to go through all these years and and subterfuge and flipping meanings of words so they can ask you those two questions and get your agreement. Now they've got what they really crave, the consent to govern you in that capacity. And even more so than that, they've got this thing called plausible deniability. Oh, Austin told us he was a slave. We're gonna take his word for it. He signed his his signature.
That's what's going on. They've turned the world upside down so that they can ask you those two questions and get your commitment and your authority to govern you in the capacity of a person in voluntary servitude. There's two places in the constitution, Austin. One is in earlier. I think it's four or five, article four or five, and they say that they can't impair your ability to contract. Right? You know, you're familiar with you've heard that?
[01:36:44] Unknown:
Can can you say that once more? Yes. They can't impair
[01:36:48] Unknown:
your ability to contract. K. Well, if you if you volunteer I'm gonna show you another one just a second. It's it's much clearer. If you enter into a voluntary condition of being in servitude, it's voluntary and you got some kind of agreement with the guy you're volunteered into, don't you? Well, they can't impair that. They can't stop you from doing that. They cannot impair your federal government, the constitution, your ability to contract. So that's what voluntary servitude is by its own nature. Its own definition, it's a contract. K? And you're volunteering to go into this guy's authority to do whatever you agree on with you as a voluntary serf. Now at that point, whatever the percentage of of ownership makes no difference.
O o o o 1%, you're a slave. Well, you're still a slave. Now on the opposite, the dialectic side of that, to be really free, you've gotta be 100% free and can't be any slave. So it doesn't matter what the percentage is. It matters that they've got this on you. Let me ask you. Here's another real this is where all this trickery comes in, Austin. If I were to say to Julie Austin paid off his car last last month. It's in the driveway. That car is his property. And Julie would know what I was talking about. You'd know what I was talking about, and I'd know what we're talking about. We're on the same page. Right? Unfortunately, legally, that's not the case.
Legally, property is a right, and the car is a thing. It's not the property. It's a thing. Mhmm. And your property is a right in and to the thing. So your property is a right. You've heard property rights. Your property is a right, not a thing. So this is another one of these deals where they screw up our minds. And they they stick these colloquial definitions into us, and then they come use a really highly specialized word against us. They set us up with generalities, and they zap us with specificity. K?
So, that basically is what's going on. Now I we could go into, also, we could go into hours on digging into this thing on these different things.
[01:39:15] Unknown:
But do you get the overall concept that I'm that we're teaching here? I do. You've you've been a great teacher so far, and I do like how, you know, every every time I feel like we're going off course, you always bring it back. So I do appreciate your tutelage.
[01:39:28] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I used to be a teacher. I love doing this. It's one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done. God, for whatever reason, blessed me with this knowledge and brought me down this path over many years. And, it's my duty to teach it. I don't charge you. You're gonna have to if you wanna follow this path, you gotta pay a price, but it's not monetary, and it's not to me. You're gonna have to learn the information. You're gonna have to start and think. You're gonna have to get rid of the errors in that they've planted in your mind, and you're gonna have to replace that with a real truth. And that takes time. It takes a little effort, and you gotta get your synapses firing again. Okay? So that's the price you're gonna pay because your freedom and the amount of it is directly correlated to how well you can defend your position.
So it's how much of this information do you wanna absorb and understand? You know, God says above all, seek understanding. How much of it can you understand? And that's gonna directly correlate to how free you are. If you can't defend your position, you ain't gonna be very damn free, are you? No. So that's the price you're gonna pay. But the you're gonna enlarge it. You're getting closer to your god. You're gonna start getting what what's going on in the big picture here, Austin? The biggest picture is Esau Edom has stolen his birthright back. Are you familiar with that story? You know, which one, Esau Edom. On the birthright back? Yes. On the birth this is when they were born.
Esau was born first. And and then Jacob evidently, came out holding his ankle. They evidently the story I've heard, they tied a red string around Esau's ankle to show and benefit that he was born first and got the birthright. And then later on, he didn't want the birthright, and he sold it for a a bowl of oatmeal porridge. And he sold it to Jacob. What they've done is they've stolen that back with this. Now they've got the birthright. Oh, just take it back. That is really, honestly, what's going on here. They've tricked you into giving them back the birthright that they sold. So you wanna be free, Austin?
I I I I'm I don't try and convince people. I just lay facts out there. If you can follow them and this interests you, you're you're a person of interest and you ought to follow-up on this. And if it doesn't mean anything to you and you wanna stay a slave and believe I'm an asshole like some of these people do down here, well, then that's your choice, and I'm alright with it. Okay? But I my job is to let you know you've got a choice you didn't know you had. If you're interested, I explain it to you and and and grab your hand and walk you down the road to freedom because that's what we do with folks. I don't charge you a penny. K?
But if you wanna get me on a personal consultation stuff, I'm gonna charge you for it. Charge you a $150. Okay? But that's why I have the radio show. So people like you can come on here and ask these questions without having to do that, and that the whole rest of the audience can benefit off these answers. Because these folks that are here with us today, it doesn't matter how many times they've heard this. Every time they hear it, they hear something different because they've grown underneath. And something that they didn't have the ability to put into its proper context before, now that they've learned a little bit, they go, oh, god. I didn't see that the first time. So that's why they hang around here because it doesn't matter. You cannot be exposed to these basics enough times. You can't do it. Now okay. Let's open up the audience here because there's, is is there anything I've forgotten that's important, Julie?
Anybody else wanna talk to young Austin?
[01:43:20] Unknown:
Hi, Roger. Hello, Susan. Hey, Austin. I I Austin, I just wanna say that, Austin, I know you work during the week, but all these calls are recorded. We are on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday from eleven to one, and then there's an after show afterwards that some of us are on for another two hours. So Oh, lord. For stuff, if you back and listen to things, but, also, just try your best to be on here on Saturdays if you can't make it during the week because because that's what we're all here for. We love new students because we the more we take out of the system of this slavery system that they've bestowed upon us so fraudulently, the more, you know, the better this country will be because, as I told you yesterday, the IRS is not even a federal government agency. It's owned by the Crown, and the headquarters are in Puerto Rico, and they're just stealing from us left and right. And you're so fortunate at how young you are.
We all, probably, a lot of us on here wish we were your age and had this opportunity to get out of the system at your age. I think that's it, Roger. I mean, there's just so much background to this, but the more you learn about the fourteenth Amendment and what those words and the meanings behind them are, because you wanna think resident is a geographical area, not yes, it is, sometimes in the context in which it's used, but not in the usage of the fourteenth Amendment. It means are you subject to their political jurisdiction, which means their laws, rules, regulations, codes, statutes, and everything.
Once you get out of that, they don't have any jurisdiction over you, which means the IRS doesn't have jurisdiction over you. And a bonus to being part of this group, Austin, is that we have some amazing lawyers in here. So if you really want to I shouldn't use the word protect your assets, protect your wealth. We use estate planning purposes, but they will teach you how to put your house, your car, and your bank accounts into trust. And they're you don't own them, but you control them, and nobody can touch them. So if you get a lawsuit against you, good luck. You're not collectible. So that's all I wanna say, but I'm so happy you came on today, Austin, because I've invited so many people on, and they don't show up. They don't show happy you're here. Yep. And I would like to be in that you're And I appreciate it, Julie. You
[01:45:41] Unknown:
Go go ahead, Austin.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Thank you. I was gonna say thank you for the invitation, Julie. This is, you know, you really, kind of blew me away, you know, because there's a there's a lot of people that can speak on these topics, but you were referencing dates, certain, certain articles. You were referencing the the different acts, and I'm just kind of like, this woman is
[01:46:03] Unknown:
sharp. And, Roger, you have to option. I have to I have And I do appreciate you being here. Yeah. I have to interrupt you here because, honestly, I learned it not only from Roger, but I learned it from the entire group members here. We have websites on here. Mirka has a Telegram channel when you get on Telegram that you can join, and there's also another one called nationalstatus.info, and that is Dave and Kate's site, and we're one big happy family here. We help everybody. Everybody in here, I love them to death, and they're my new family. I mean, we're all on the same page here, and everybody wants everybody to be happy here given the, corrupt world we're in right now. So I'm just so happy you showed up, and I hope you come back on again on Saturday. Or if you're if you have an an hour to hop on during the week to listen during your lunch hour, you wanna come on and listen because, like I said, they're all recorded. You can go back and listen to them, and we're all here to help you.
[01:47:00] Unknown:
I just comment. Yes. There's a Mercury right there in a comment. Let me let me tell Austin something right now. I'll turn it over to you guys. Austin, you're a metals dealer. Because I've been in this so long and one of the first things I started because I like economics. We studied the economic side of this and figured out the difference between Keynes and and and Austrian. And and I got very fortunate right around the year February, a little bit before, I I I had a monopoly on a wonderful product called a silver plated bandage by the guy that, well, invented it or that patented it and all that. I was the only salesman for that in the world. And I was at a unique time in my life when I married a gal, moved in with her and her mother, and I didn't have any overhead. So I was out of the tax system. I have this wonderful cash flow situation, and I got no overhead at all.
K? So, over a couple of years, there were, you know, thousands of dollars were rolling through. And because I understood this stuff, I had a I had well, one of my friends there in Atlanta was one of the top 20 coin dealers in the world. He's retired now. His name was Tom Cloud. And, so Tom was right there in town, and so I'd go down and just buy gold hand over fist. You're gonna like this right here, Austin. I bought all my gold at under $300 and under. In a period, you may have heard referred to as Brown's bottom. Have you heard of Brown's bottom? Have you heard that term?
[01:48:31] Unknown:
You keep throwing these at me, Roger. And I I keep hating to disappoint, but I haven't heard of Brown's bottom before. Brown's bottom. Billton Brown was the head president of the exchequer.
[01:48:42] Unknown:
And in about nineteen o one, you can go check it out. I don't remember. He sold half of England's gold supply to the lowest bidder at an auction.
[01:48:51] Unknown:
02/2001.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
Okay. 02/2001.
[01:48:54] Unknown:
And, of course, we don't know. We won't tell us the Rothschilds bought it. That's pretty obvious who he sold it to. That's why they call it Brown's bottom. So all I've done is sit on that, and it's it's now worth what? Well, you're probably up on it more than I am. What? $33.50 or something else? Okay. So it was this knowledge that allowed me to make that play. That's the point I'm trying to make. Okay? Yeah. So, alright. We yeah. Hold on, Merc. I know you're there, honey. Okay. Merc is chomping at the bit. Merca, what do you have to say to Austin? She's right out there by the You probably
[01:49:32] Unknown:
welcome welcome, Austin. And I wanted to I think you covered this, Roger. We are as a private individual national, we are gonna be under national law. We are no longer a US citizen who is in the public with with The United States corporation. So it's to that's where the jurisdiction is. And, also, god. I forgot what I was gonna say. I had something quickly for him. But, he can reach out at national status freedom dot com. I mean, national status freedom on Telegram, and, we can give him more information. But, yeah, we are we are back under the private versus, the public. That's what I was gonna say. Comment.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Okay. Now we got Paul. Paul is our engineer here. He makes all this magic happen so that I can convey these fabulous concepts of freedom to all of you. Paul, what do you have to add? Hello, Austin. Welcome to the show. Have you been taking notes?
[01:50:38] Unknown:
I've been having a lot of windows open. Okay. If that counts. Alright.
[01:50:44] Unknown:
Make a make a note of go to the matrixstocks.com. Give that web page up. Oh, yes. Juliet,
[01:50:53] Unknown:
turned me yes. She had a Okay. Me onto this website. I did have that one pulled up actually. At
[01:50:59] Unknown:
the right underneath the free conference called links is a, are some other links in the center of the page. I think they're bonus materials or whatever. In there, you will find the link to Merca's national status freedom telegram channel. You will also find a link to, the Radio Ranch Chateango chat channel. You will also find the links to the PPN Radio Ranch Telegram channel. You will also find the link to docs.exposethematrix.com. When you click on docs.exposethematrix.com, it will open a new window or a new tab, and that will put you in our document repository.
Now when you're there, I want you to search for two things. I want you to search for, Lewis t McFadden or just search for Lewis. It'll come up. And then you there you will find the book that Roger referred to, Federal Reserve Exposed, the 31 collective speeches of congressman Louis t McFadden. You will find that PDF. You will also put in Jones. Just put in the name Jones. And, you may find a link to, the Jones Plantation movie so you can get the backstory of exactly everything in the movie and how it overlays over
[01:52:38] Unknown:
what you've known your entire life. Yeah. It's kinda animated. It's it's it's very effective.
[01:52:45] Unknown:
And another thing, there is a books folder up there. There are literally buckets of books up there. Austin.
[01:52:57] Unknown:
Austin, do you feel like you're getting a drink of water out of the fire hydrant here?
[01:53:01] Unknown:
There is also a folder called t y n a s. There's also a folder called t y n a s that is twelve years not a slave, and there are over a thousand years in there.
[01:53:18] Unknown:
Has he been referenced to the Eugene Schroeder?
[01:53:22] Unknown:
No. Not yet. Trade fiction. Ghetto. Yeah. Poor boy's over his head already.
[01:53:27] Unknown:
Well, I believe if you search for Schroeder, s c h r o d e r, s c h r o d e r. You will also find the Eugene Schroeder, video. War and Emergency Powers. You will find the book new students.
[01:53:47] Unknown:
Don't know. That used to be new students. Start here. Yeah. It is in new students.
[01:53:53] Unknown:
It is in new students, but it's also, I not only have a copy of the book, War and Emergency Powers, but I also have the m p three file, the Eugene Schroeder interview that we did when he was on this program, and you'll also find a copy of the m p four file, the video presentation.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
It's all up there. Docs. Expose the matrix. I wanna tell Austin what we're talking about is very important. Okay? He's a he's a veterinarian in Colorado. He's still with us. His name's doctor Eugene Schroeder. Thirty one or two years ago, him and the nine other people did an intense research thing on this bankruptcy thing. And they produced this work, the Warren Emergency Powers Act. And that is the foundation that we build on. And if you had any doubts that there was a bankruptcy, they show you 85 exhibits in that two hours. It's extremely important. K?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
Wow. I just gave you the drink out of the fire hose.
[01:54:58] Unknown:
Yeah. You did. Now there was who's who's the female? It was Lisa. Lisa was trying to ask him something. One one of our fire girls is gonna come to the rescue. Well, Lisa, what were you trying to get to Austin? That it was that that, Eugene Schroeder trading with the enemies act because that's very vital and understanding. Are we at the end of the show? Yeah. Bruce, twenty seconds.
[01:55:20] Unknown:
Roger, I kinda question you about what started the civil war, and now I realize that the people in Abbeville found that out, what you were telling about the Civil War. And they wrote a document to concede from the nation
[01:55:36] Unknown:
because of that reason. Wow. And I realize that now. Cool. Well, Bruce, one of our listeners who's from Abbeville, South Carolina, where a lot of that stuff started, with the civil war anyway. Thank you, Bruce. Austin, we can continue. The show's over. We're not on the air now, but we can certainly continue to have our discussion today if you choose. If we hadn't just absolutely flat ass overwhelmed you. Let me tell you, this is this is not an event. It's a process. The event was when you Julie told you this, and it sparked your interest. The rest of the time you're dealing with it, it's gonna be a process because I'm gonna tell you, I've been immersed in it for thirty three years this this month, and I've still learned things I didn't know. Like, that this is, I think, the back, the reason for the civil war.
Nobody's ever come up with that before except maybe Bruce's people. Now I'll shut up for a second. Yes, sir.
[01:56:33] Unknown:
But when I go, we have trouble with Spectrum, we can use this phone.
[01:56:38] Unknown:
Hold it. Chris, are you talking to us?
[01:56:41] Unknown:
About what we talked about last night, Rodney McKinney
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helping to get this, diesel bus out of the road. I hey, Roger. Yeah. Hey, Bob. I think Chris is still off on that other conversation. Hey, buddy. This is one of our old time listeners here, Austin. Bob, he's down in he's down around Alligator, Alcatraz.
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Not too far. In fact, I'm even closer right now than where I live. I'm down we're There you go. Closer to hey, Austin. Welcome. Several items since I think you've got your browser open and have sweet fingers. Check out 28 USC fort sorry. 28 USC seventeen forty six. Unsworn declarations under penalty of perjury called a jurat. It's the most shining example of an admission or claim of the difference between or or showing a difference in law, that's in air quotes, in the statute, in the code of the difference between The United States and The United States Of America.
I'll let you read it. You've got that down, I'm sure, 28 USC seventeen forty six. Yeah. Good example. Also, also and I was away for a few minutes. Roger may have already gone over this, but, do you go over CFR 26?
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I didn't get to that point yet. We ran out of time.
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But we we're gonna do it with the 1.1
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dash one a, and it will show you that if you're not a citizen on a resident, you're not liable for income tax. Oh, it's the big thing I wanna tell you, Bob O'Malley. For tax, but only two but only two that are constitutional. You're subject to them, but you probably won't. Well, you might be. Who knows? But regardless, they're constitutional. Pay them. No big deal, but not income tax. And one other item, Roger. Yep. And that would be 11 or sorry. Eight CFR. Sorry. 88 USC 11 o one, eight USC 11 o one, a twenty and twenty one. And it will show you the difference between, in the code, a state citizen, which is a national, and a non state citizen.
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Yeah.
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Right there in the code. See right here.
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Oh, awesome. All of those are probably in the matrix stocks, etcetera, etcetera. I'm only pointing you to those three because those three in my mind
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put
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a bow on the whole thing. When you do understand that they are aware and have it in the code, that The United States, United States Of America are not the same, and most people roll their eyes and say, oh, that's just patriot pathology. No. It's right there in the code. When you understand that this is who owes the income tax and others don't, and it's right there in the code. And when you understand, what was the third one? Who's a resident and who's a state citizen, also known as a private individual, as Mirca put out. When you see those three brought out in stark contrast to the pink cloud, it just gives validity and certitude to the whole thing,
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and I rest my case. That's something for what Bob shared, Roger. Do what now? He that code the seventeen forty six code that Bob shared, I like, that's one of my favorite codes. Yeah. And I noticed before right. Right. That's what I was gonna say. I noticed before, you know, before I even learned anything about this, that there I mean, there was I didn't know there was a difference. And they sometimes the notaries don't ask you. So then when you do learn about it, you say, you know, we're doing this affidavit notarizing this affidavit without
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The United States. They don't want it. That's kinda awesome too. Notaries are somebody that goes to a state and gets this notary and this seal. Right. And all they are there to do is to verify and witness that the person signing the document is the person they say they are and have identification. That's their only function. They don't have to be lawyers. They don't need to be lawyers. In fact, they shouldn't be given legal advice. Okay? So that's all they do. Right. Alright. Now, Austin. Yeah. They don't ask you if if you want it with or without.
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So it's up to us to do that. And one more code for him. One of my other another favorite one is 8 Just what he needs. Another favorite one is that the eight USC 11 O13, that one says that we are alien to The United States.
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And so even though we're in the country, we're alien to the federal government. Your state government's alien to the federal government. Now, Austin, I'm gonna double back. I want Bob said something real important about this 26 CFR. That's code of federal regulations. Those are the, the Bibles, the guidebooks for the agencies. That's where they promulgate regulations. So let me explain to you what's going on here because I'll bet you don't know or don't understand the at to this level. We elect representatives. We send them to Washington.
They meet and pass laws, and, they're supposed to be representing us. You know? And, oh, I got stuff going on here. So, what happens after that, because we're in this bankruptcy, the congress, according to Jim Trafficante, is actually trustees over the bankruptcy, But they pass the laws. And then once they've passed the laws and they're signed by the president, they go into, there's three different law books, sets of law books in the law library. They go into the first one. And then they're shuffled over according to subject matter. Like, if it's something to do with environment stuff, then whatever the legislation is will be transferred over to the EPA, Environmental Protection Agency.
They will read the legislation, evaluate it, and then reinterpret it into what is called public policy. I'm sure you've heard that phrase. Public policy is man made bureaucrat laws for the served class. That's what it is. So they come in and totally regurgitate this legislation. Used to be in any direction because the agencies were considered authorities. They that just recently changed last session of the, Supreme Court. The Chevron, thing they call it. Right? Well, that's what that overturned is the ability of the agency to wide rangingly reinterpret these these, regulations.
And so then they publish them. There's a specific protocol of that. I'm not gonna go over that with you now. You can be exposed to that later. And then they publish them in what's called the legal organ of the federal government. That's the federal register. And after certain procedures, they take effect. Okay? But only on the serfs, except for those two real weird rare exceptions that we're gonna cover in just a second. But what this does is it nullifies the jurisdiction of all federal agencies over you. Does that sound like something you might wanna look into, Austin?
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Yeah. I could definitely give that a a look here. Okay. Well, then let we'll let lot of stuff to to get to today, though. Yeah. Oh, you gotta take off. Do wanna apologize to you guys if I'm cutting this. Yeah. I I I do wanna apologize, but I didn't wanna be rude at the same time. But But I do appreciate everything that you guys have, have brought to light for me here. Okay. A lot of these links are gonna be in the website. A few, I'm not too sure about, but I have the tabs open still, so I wanna have to write those down. Uh-huh. But other than that, all you guys have been very helpful. And, yeah, I'm gonna definitely tune in next week and, interested to see what else we can uncover here Okay. Well if I may.
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Okay. Real quickly. Quickly, Austin. If if if you're a Christian, I would recommend the book of the hundreds, giving you a a Christian Book of the hundreds. Standpoint of where this country was, what it did, and how we got where we are.
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Real real quickly on the matrix docs, you'll see Radio Ranch archives and a question mark and the word here. If you click on that, it'll go to the episodes page of the archives. And if you click on the title of today's show, you will find tabs on that page for the transcript, the show notes, and the chapters. This program will be separated into chapters by AI, so you can go straight to whatever you want to refer to, like the information that Bob gave and the information that Merka gave and Roger gave. It'll all be right there. So you can very quickly go right to the right spot and review it. And I I was I haven't even gotten a hold of this. This is very handy.
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I haven't even gotten to the real crux, which which I will get to at another time, which is their their jurisdictional statement on the tax issue. And I wanted to say that in there is shows you their deceptiveness. And that is one of the things that really kept me going all these years to find an answer is the link they went to in that one particular instance to hide this free status. They call it a nonresident alien, and we'll go into that at another time. Okay? But that's where you found it. I I just thank God that John Benson was my law teacher because these things are all the things that he taught us. I took it, stood on their shoulders, and found the ultimate answer.
What you've been presented with today is the result of over one hundred years of historical and legal research in three men's lives. Please don't take it lightly.
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Right. Mhmm. Absolutely.
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Alright. Well, we'll see you sometime soon then. You got any questions? You've reached Julie. You can come back on here. If you really have a burning question, you can probably dial back in, and there more than likely be people on this channel sometimes in the middle of the night. So, so all that's up here, Austin. And, if not, we'll hopefully see you, real soon. Go at my Roger. Video that I wish you'd watch is called God's Trump card. That was with this guy, badass uncle Sam. And I I think that's probably the best and most effective interview I've done in all these years. Now you you're not gonna go yet because Larry wants to talk to you. Yeah. I was just going to clarify something.
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You've assigned me a homework, some homework to study the life and political career of Louis t McFadden. Yes. And, he yeah. I'm staying in Northeast Pennsylvania, but when he was alive, his his district was located in Southwestern Pennsylvania. Oh. So Pennsylvania is like a big rectangle. Yes. And he would be down at the western corner. Pittsburgh.
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Closer to Pittsburgh.
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Yeah.
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So I got his, I got his counties here. He was by the way, he was elected four times and he died after his reelection. So he was in the Fourteenth Congressional District. Of poisoned
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at the Waldorf Astoria on the fourth attempt. Go ahead.
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Yeah. So he was elected four times, and it his political career started in 1914, and then it ended in 1920. So he was a member of the Fourteenth Congressional District, and that includes the counties of Fayette County, Greene County, and Washington County, and most of Indiana, Westmoreland, and Somerset Counties. And so, like I said, he was reelected four times and then after his fourth election, they they re they did this redistricting and so it became the Fifteenth Congressional District.
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Yep. Anyway, but I'll ask
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you he's just giving that to us. You go on about your way if you got things to do, and we'll we we really glad to have you. And and hopefully, we'll look real forward to the next time we get to speak with you again. Is that fair? Yes. And the pleasure is all mine. You guys have a blessed weekend. Thank you for letting me take a part in this. Amigo. We do it six days a week. We'll see you soon.
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What a delight. Julie. Julie, thank you so much for bringing us this very, well adjusted, wholesome young man. God, I love you. Amazing. I had an amazing conversation with him yesterday over the phone, and I said, I'm begging you. Please come on the call tomorrow. I know the number by heart. I said, just please, I'm begging you. I said, you're in a perfect position right now to get out from underneath slavery, and we'll show you how to do this, and you can't, they can't bust you. They can't do anything to negate this. So we have Nope. We have lawyers. We have amazing people that write rebuttal letters if you get any of these, you know, bluff letters from the IRS. And I said and I just it was well, we had a great conversation. I I, he called yesterday. I wish he didn't come on your show to plug his, medals, but maybe next time when he's on live on Saturday, if anybody's looking to get any medals, I told him maybe if we have a group of enough people that are still wanna purchase that you could give us a discount because you're talking to a big group of people on the show. And so, you know, we didn't talk about that, but maybe next Saturday, he can.
But come on here to plug his show. I'll just let you know that I found it funny because I was like, oh my god. Metals. That's Roger. Yeah. Well, I would love for him to be able to plug his, his availability in that area because I think everybody
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could sense you're dealing with an honest guy. So, and I wanted to just you know, you you give we could talk we could've kept him on this phone for six to eight hours. Well, I told him that. I said you'll you could end up being on this,
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show and not work for a whole entire week, take a vacation and just be on the or on your sales show. And you still have questions after the week.
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Well,
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I'm sure the last came on. I told people before. Everywhere I go, I tell people I've got shirts out with the matrix docs on it. I say, why are you paying taxes? I do custom t shirts. And, I have I have just nasty government shirts that I wear everywhere, and I get stopped by people. And I tell them the number all the time, and I tell them to please get on, and I'm so happy he came on this time. Myself.
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I'm just not good at it. K? That's why I gotta have secondhand people, do it because you're much more effective. It's much more effective on whoever you're talking to. Now I've thought quite a bit, and next week, we're gonna give him a couple of days to calm down here. But, get a schedule back if possible. But we're gonna start a program on one Chase Geyser at, infowars.com and Harrison Smith. And I think we can get to Harrison through Chase. They're good friends. And I think that this may be what we've been looking for. Now the other side of the coin is, look at all this Epstein and other shit built in.
Holy crap. Trump has really stepped in it right here. And he's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't. And you can see the control over him, and the base wants answers. They're even going out to media outlets and saying, if you don't quit covering this, we're not gonna give you access, you know, the reverse blackmail shit and all that. They are freaked out about this, and it just keeps coming out and it's gonna keep coming out, I e. Did anybody see the fourth hour of Owen sitting in for Alex yesterday and the twenty minutes with the with the victim? I did.
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Yes. I did, Roger. And, also, can I just please add to that? Everybody needs to get on before it's news.com. And there's two amazing interviews. One is one with Benjamin Fulford. He I know he's controversial, but he's like, that's not the Trump that we saw in 2020 or 2021. He said there's been a coup over the government that's a clone. It's very interesting. And then there's another interview with Kim Goygan. I'm not a fan of hers, but the one she just posted is extremely interesting. It's about the one world order, the one world government, and the fight that is ensuing between Trump and Musk, because Musk was promised that his Doge would become an actual department in our fake government, but he was also promised to, for him to be head of the world government along with the United Nations. So Julie, did you say
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Goygen?
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Goygen, g u o y g g u e n or something. You can't miss her last name. Her name first name is Goygen. Okay.
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Yeah. Can we can we say pronounce her name. Can we can we can we say Gefelte fish?
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I think her name is actually Guggen.
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Yeah. Like Googanheim. Googan. Like the Googanheim Museum or something, maybe. Yeah. It's another branch of a branch of the tribe, folks. A branch of the tribe.
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Yeah. Kim Googan. She's, I don't know.
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Hi, Candy. I know who she is. I say the same thing, Paul. She said you were like, I'm not watching her, but something God told me to watch her today, and I watched her. And I was like, this is the most interesting interview I've ever you know, podcast I've ever heard her and the most interesting statements I've ever heard come out of her mouth before. So I was blown away by it. So, you know, I love the Fort Snooze, you guys, because that site is an aggregator, and it ranks the top 50 sites, which buy the most viewed. And so, yeah, some of them, like, the number one is, what's his name?
The metals guy who transported all of the gold for all of the elites or whatever. Charlie Ward. I'm not a fan of his. His video is number one on before it snooze. And so but, you know, to each his own. What I like is that you know who's viewing what, and and some of the interviews are just incredible. So I yield.
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Oh, you people are so wonderful.
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I wanna go back and get Roger, don't forget. Don't forget. I'm sorry to I'm I'm I'm unyielding. Don't forget you're on, confirmed this I know next Wednesday. I got it. I got it. I wanna send all the links to Paul ahead of time so that if you have issues, we this doesn't happen again, and you get your two hours with Kevin. Okay. Great. Well, we I'll look forward to talking with him.
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I forgot where I was going. All this stuff, the the fourth, segment of Alex with Owen hosting yesterday, if you have not seen it, We've only seen a couple of these girls ever interviewed. Well, this one did a twenty minute interview. She's a victim from, I guess, South Africa. Cute little brunette and, has a child now. She's scared to go outside of her front door. She was going over all the girls that have been killed, and and all that stuff. And she identifies this twice. At least, she said, Jeffrey told me he worked for CIA. K?
And she gave a description how they go all over the world, and they never give an advance warning to say pack your bags. We're going to Paris. Boom. Or whatever. And, it's worth watching. It's not going away. It very well may destroy the Trump presidency. It's certainly already his ratings have tanked. Between the Iran thing and this, they've tanked because they showed, oh, I forgot. The best, best pollster in the world, showed their latest results on that yesterday also. So it's a whiz bang of a week, folks, and unbelievable with the times we're living in.
They're caught right in the freaking corner. So here yes. Just second Joan. So as this continues to build, and it's gonna, and here we are underneath with our little information, and now we got what may be a possible access to a big platform through somebody that knows some of this already but doesn't know the, specifics. It's it is a good I'm not a betting man, but I sure feel good about it. And so next week, we'll, we'll we'll convene on that and initiate it. Yes, Joan.
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Roger, when you just said Jeffrey, did you mean Jeffrey Epstein?
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Yes.
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I think. Okay. Good. Thank you.
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Yeah. This this Epstein thing, it ain't going away. And now with all these other pieces and them going out to media and say, don't talk about this. We won't let you have access to the White House. And Owen Stroyer, god bless him, said, I will not do that and puts this girl on the air and does a couple hours on this Epstein Epstein thing this week. God bless you, Owen. K? See, this is the opposite of what I went through here in a much smaller scale is, people here stab me in the back. They'd rather go and believe all that shit. They don't wanna know the truth. So that's good. At least, I don't particularly like being around people that aren't truthful people, quite honestly. You know, totally truthful like we are here and know what we know. So, anyway, that's the way we're going. Anybody else have any questions for me? Great. Julie, I'm bringing Austin in. He'll, he'll I feel he'll be somewhat of a semiregular as much as he's able.
Okay. Anybody else got something for me? Because I gotta go pee.
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Roger. Roger, thank you. You're the best. And everybody else in this room, you're the best. I've learned from all of you, and I'm gonna just keep on trying to get the word out there and get more students for you. So God bless everybody, and I hope everybody has a nice weekend. Listen. If we can get on one of these big
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person. Yeah. Of of of fifth you know, even a a really hot Alex Jones show on one of these topics probably get more than 50,000,000 extended looking at archives and stuff, passing it around, etcetera. So of, let's say, 50,000,000 people, how many folks in that audience do you think would want to follow-up and possibly go through this? A bunch is my feeling. K? I thought that about Jeffrey. I thought it about Rents. I was wrong. But about this his audience, we might could pull these back. With everything else that's going on, the timing on this, if con if merged with all this other shit, especially Epstein, we could take these bastards down, folks.
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Hey, Roger. Yes. I wanted to just, recommend something to you. And this is just based on me and my personal experience because keep in mind, I found you forced. You're forced on the chain. So the first person I found online about all this stuff was Anna Von Wright. The second one was Bobby Lawrence. The third one was David Strait, and I was so confused, and I did nothing. I think when you are on these shows, you should tell them that your your system and your methodology doesn't have anything to do with those three. It's totally different, and it's way simpler, and it's a one page affidavit. And that will pique everybody's interest because a lot of people have heard from this, and they're afraid to do it because they've been exposed to those wrong, those wrong educational systems from those three people. That's just my only recommendation to you. Could somebody say, oh, it's another national thing, and that these people ended up in jail, blah blah blah. That's what I was And it's free.
Yeah. Rob is not p a y for you. And you need to say it's free and that you and I think you should add what you said to Austin. Not once have we ever been has anything been garnished or seized or levied from somebody
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using your system. That's what I would say. I feel I I do try and get those things in. Each conversation is kinda unique. I don't necessarily have a canned version, but yet I have a general outline version I try and follow depending on who you're talking to. Who else was saying something there besides Julie?
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I have a comment. I have a comment. Okay. Do you hear me? I do. Yes. This is Shane. I know exactly who it is. Yes. Hello, Shane. It's Shane. Yes. Hey. I have a question in regards to your, books. Best thing to do is get the books out there. Do you have a a printer for the particular books
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Not right now. For selling this? Now, Shane. I used to.
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I have.
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I believe people that I was with were, I don't know. They weren't they weren't satisfactory. Shane, can you listen for a second? Yes. That's them. It's not there anymore. And I haven't put it up on a new one yet, but I need to, and I will. Stay tuned. Okay? Otherwise, the PDFs out there found one. What you Yes. You found what? Somebody that's selling my printed book? Found that.
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No. It's called, I'm willing to go with, ebooks Visionary Publishing. It's called [email protected].
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Okay. Well, send it to me in an email. Look into it? Well, you send it to me in an email. When it comes time, the problem is I don't have a cover for it. I've got the book. I don't have the damn cover. And I I I'm not sure where it was, and I gotta have probably have somebody draw one up like Sketch, who's one of our regular guys, used to hang around here. I just just haven't gotten to it yet. Alright. Anyway, the PDF's out there. So good to hear from you. I hope you're doing well. Okay? Okay. So anybody else? I hadn't heard from Shane Virtue. And, actually, Shane's the one that opened the door for us confronting the IRS.
So, not just an average old listener from the past. He initiated all that. Now it's the letter that's on the website that I wrote him back was for Shane. And you've never heard from him, have you? Of course not. So, anyway, get interesting to hear your voice, Shane. He lives right down the street from Athens. Alright. Good. It's been years. Yep. Okay. Anybody else got something for me?
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Raj, if I can get a physical copy of Sovereign to Surf, I can scan the existing cover in high definition.
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Okay. Well, somebody that's got a I've got a written copy of it. I don't know how the hell I'd get it up there in Ecuador. Says, anybody here have a copy of the book? I do. Of the You who do? Who who does? I do.
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Oh. Paul knows where.
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Yep.
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Who who Okay. Was that Rick?
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If I That's Andy. If I can, if I can get a physical copy of the book, I can scan the front cover, back cover, and the spine, and we can make it happen.
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Okay. Well, then we'll move forward. Somebody else sent me a a possible vendor. Send me that in email, Shane. The book Tree, as Lauren sent. So she evidently knows the guy that runs it or something. I hadn't investigated it yet, but I know it's there. So maybe we could pull this together. So thanks for asking about it, Shane. Yeah. I I have the I ISBN number. Okay. Well, we'll get it. It's on it's on the one, that, that Alan has. K? Thank you, Shane. Thank you, buddy.
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Thank you, Roger.
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Alright. Well, you're certainly welcome. So, who else? Shane's an interesting character. Blessings, Roger. And there's Sketch. Sketch. Hey, Sketch. Well, you sound exceptionally you sound exceptionally good today. Your little speaker phone is sounds very clear. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, thank you. And I yep. So, alright. Well I'm I'm
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I just wanted to say I'm still here.
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Okay. Good to hear you, buddy. I wondered about you. And Mark Mark comes with us today, and then I totally this Austin thing totally, took us another direction. He's probably left by now. Have you, Argh?
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No. He had to, he had something come up, and he had to Uh-huh. Duck out almost an hour ago. So he he will hopefully be here Wednesday.
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Well, yeah, hopefully, he's got his plate full. God bless him. So, anyway, that's where we are. Again, anybody with any, final stuff for me, or I'm gonna go have an abbreviated weekend here. Alright. Well, I'll see y'all, hopefully, bright and early Monday morning. We'll see what the Epstein story develops over the weekend. It it is explosive, folks, and it ain't gonna nowhere near go away, and it's only gonna get bigger. Trump is in the vice right now.
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Alright. I'll see y'all Monday. We'll see what happens. Yes, sir. Have a have a good day and a half of your weekend.
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There you go. Thank you, Bruce. That's about what it is. I will. Clouds are already moving in now. Hey. Hey. Yes, ma'am. Roger, real quick too. I heard a a a
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a take it for what it is. You know, this is Lisa. Trump not releasing that? Well, now he's holding the blackmail card over all these people, isn't he?
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Yes. It's a really interesting situation. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't, it appears. So we'll be part of it. We may you see, it's that's why this thing you know, God and his timing, and and this comment by Chase sitting in for Harrison on vacation, that tells me he knows a little bit about this, but he doesn't know what we know and that he's a open minded guy. I know Harrison is, and we got a shot at getting this information on that network. We do. Uh-huh. Yes. Yes, Julie.
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Yeah. I just wanted to say on that, before news interview with Kim Goygan. She she has explosive stuff she states. She says that after these people all get into their positions, and I think even Ben Fulford said this today too, after all these people who are of of significance in significant importance in any of these cabinet positions. After they get selected, all of the, blackmail and all of the evidence that they have on these people is shown to them, and they are told you will do, and vote as we say. So I just yield there. It's getting this movie is really honestly becoming, a nightmare movie, but it's getting so interesting with all the twists and turns. And by the way, on Telegram, I don't know if it's CGI, there is a video of Epstein escaping from the prison and him running out into a back alley into a black SUV with dark windows in it. And everybody, all these people, including Virginia Giuffre, has stated that, he didn't die, and he is a Mossad and a CIA asset. He works for both, and that she believes he's living in Israel right now.
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I yield up. Wouldn't surprise me one little bit. There's nothing that you can these people are most deceptive sneaky some bitches that have ever walked the earth. So, let's see. Now was there some of the another gal that was trying to say something when Julie's talking? Trump Trump bit off more than he can chew.
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Uh-oh.
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I it would appear so, Joan. And the thing some of the things that he's doing, he just in the last day or two, like, something in endorsing Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton. And Tom Cotton is right now trying to formulate a bill that is going to totally, gut Tulsi Gabbard's power and switch all that power back to the CIA. So Trump's Trump's just right in bed with him. You know? I'm shocked. I'm just shocked. We'll see how it develops. I tell you, man, after what Roger. After what Jack Abercrombie did to me this week, it shouldn't it shouldn't shock anything anybody do to you. Yes.
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Yeah. So if you, review the videotape, there's a minute and I think two seconds missing. And when the, when the when the missing minute expires and the video resumes, it shrinks just a little bit. And then in the upper right hand corner of the video, you could see editing software cutoff. What it appears to be editing software. Oh, yeah. So that whole thing was tampered with. Yep. No doubt. Yep. No doubt. I heard somebody else going into some depth on that.
[02:31:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they're just scared as shit. They're having to try and put this stuff in front of you, and the people are too aware, and they're too sharp. And, they're they're not gonna be able to pull this, over anybody's eyes. I don't believe. But, boy, it is gonna be interesting to watch. The bigger it gets, the more impact we could have with our information coming in on the side. Say a prayer. K. Maybe what, is this isn't God's timing. It's not mine. All I'm supposed to do, I guess, is keep doing what I'm doing, trying to get the best I can at it, and be ready when one of these types of situations present themselves. And, boy, would I go absolutely nuts. I'd be so happy.
We'll see, folks. Have a great weekend and a half. And, Larry, you gotta be back to work on Monday, don't you?
[02:32:18] Unknown:
I'm flying back to Florida on Monday, and then I go back to work on Wednesday.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Okay. Well, be safe. Hope you've enjoyed your vacation. And, we'll see all y'all Monday. God willing and shit doesn't happen. Okay? So no other questions? Yeah. I just love each and every one of you, really. Especially now, I mean, you know, I knew it before, of course, but, boy, in the last couple of days is that brought home on who you can trust and who you can't. And I I I just wanna be around people I can be honest with that see the truth, want it, and and that we can communicate.
[02:32:55] Unknown:
And, it's just, boy, it's been a shocker for me this week. I mean, really. I appreciate it. Be blessed, Sawyer. Be blessed. Be blessed. And I'm happy that you could see the light. I am, ladies
[02:33:06] Unknown:
and gentlemen. I got all you folks here. We got the truth. We got we got the biggest son of a bitch, baddest bastard ever walked the earth. We got him right by the nuts? Oh, what a fabulous that's what makes me have so much hubris and be able to say, look who's doing this. Here's how they're doing it. And people don't wanna hear it. They'll hate you for it. K? They do not wanna know the truth about the world they they think they live in. So I can't help them overcome that. I'm not don't wanna alienate them, but they take an alienation approach because they don't wanna hear about it. So, you know, don't shoot the messenger, boys. Right. Their father is the devil, right, their father is the devil. That's why they don't believe in the truth. And these people that are Gentiles, they're not even Jews that are the they're defending all this stuff and and all this slander and shit on me. They're they're just proselytites.
It's they're over here defending this propaganda that these monsters have for however put in their their brains. It's a hell of a situation, man. The deeper into it, the more mystified I am with it at times. So it's been an interesting week, exposed an awful lot, and, we'll see. The waters may may edge over down the road. These guys are gonna fall. There ain't no way they're not gonna get exposed. And they've got so much going. They're so evil. Ukraine, Israel and Iran, all the crap going on in The US, all the Epstein stuff, one after one after one.
And, Trump is going to be, in essence, unable to govern because he's trying to take care of all these fires and put them out. It's my my feeling. So, anyway, we're we're in the middle of it. We'll all live through it. I'll, unless somebody's got something for me, I'm gonna take off. I have one more thing for you.
[02:35:09] Unknown:
I looked up both of the, the links on book publishing. The booktree.com, we specialize in metaphysical, spiritual, and controversial books from San Diego, California. Kinda looks like they're I don't know. They might be a little too woo woo for for the the subject matter of your book. But the other one that Shane brought up, ebookvisionarypublishing.us. That looks very interesting. They look like a a full service, book publishing. They, let's see. They, grammar and style checks keep it consistent. Consistency across chapters because flow matters. Fact checking for your for accuracy because details matter. Formatting for Amazon ebooks and beyond, and, how how they make your book shine. They polish it up, design stops to scroll, formatting that just feels right, ISBN ISBN copyright and illegal stuff. They handle all the registrations.
They print it, publish it, and sell it, and they market it because readers won't just find your book. I just sent you the links to both of those web pages in your email.
[02:36:36] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Paul. Also, I want I I have you know, Brent sends me all his stuff, Thursday stuff for years, and I've never listened to any of it, quite frankly. And I wanna listen to this one, and I went to look at what he sent. You gotta go on to Vimeo and and register and all kind of stuff. And it's hard for me to read on the I didn't have to.
[02:36:59] Unknown:
You did? I I didn't have to do that. All I did was just click on it, and it opened right up. So,
[02:37:07] Unknown:
Alright. Well, listen. After you get when you if you get a minute over this afternoon or tonight or tomorrow, if you get a hold of me somehow, and, I I'd if I can get some direction on that, I'd like to see if we could get that done and a couple other things I could have done stand to have done if you got time. I hate to infringe on you, but that's the way it is. So, anyway, if you do that, I'd appreciate it. I really wanna hear this. I might go back and fool with it again, but I got some kind of a page with all kinds of stuff on it.
[02:37:40] Unknown:
Well, what tone what what came up on mine was the the the you're not a spam bot certification. Yeah. And it's just a little box with a little spinning whirly gig, and then it turns into a check mark, and then you put a check mark in the box, and then it opens up the Vimeo page. That's the only thing I had to do to watch that. So I I was I was kinda dismayed that the video was on Vimeo because it's it's it's not a very user friendly platform, really, but it is what it is.
[02:38:23] Unknown:
Yes. Yes, John. Roger? Yeah. Uh-huh. It's Mer. Oh, Mer. We do sound a little alike. Yeah. I just wanted to add in here. I put the Chitango address in the, free conference call, and there's a couple articles. And I guess there'll be a follow-up third one. I don't know how many, but, they've come up with an interesting name. We're always looking for names. Well, the acronym is Jizz, j I c z. And it's depicting exactly what you might think Jizz is. But, anyway, it's Jewish Israeli zealous. I think it's pretty accurate. Another acronym.
[02:39:00] Unknown:
Yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Murr. I'll, well, see problem. The problem is, Paul, I can't get ahold. I can't even call you like I could on Skype before. At least I can't from this end. I probably can. Just don't know how to do it.
[02:39:19] Unknown:
You should be able to call me. Well, I could just remote into the portable, and I can use the link that, Brent sent me
[02:39:32] Unknown:
and pop it up on the portable. I mean, you wouldn't be able to release Well, then I gotta I gotta transfer it over to the other desktop on the big monitor. So, well, you might could send it in an email. Yeah. I could probably I I just do that. I can send you what what I get from you. It wasn't just there's a whole bunch of Vimeo this, Vimeo that, sign in, and all kind of shit. And I just the page is with my eyesight, it's hard to read it and hard to deal with it. Okay? I gotta blow some some stuff up so big for me to read it that it isolates me from the rest of the page and a lot of the other context. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but that's the best way I can describe it. Okay. Alright.
[02:40:18] Unknown:
Okay. What is this? Weird. Okay. Too. I can,
[02:40:24] Unknown:
damn monkey on this shit, you bastards.
[02:40:28] Unknown:
Let me, let me try to send you a, a remote invitation so I can remote into your desktop. Alright. Then
[02:40:41] Unknown:
we should be able to get that. Through, Jitsi? You could do it through Jitsi too, share screens.
[02:40:47] Unknown:
Right. No. I what I would need to do is I would need to send you the link, launch it, and then figure out what you're seeing, And then, take the appropriate action. So Jesus. I'll send you I'll send you the invite.
[02:41:00] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'll see all all this damn technical shit. I'll see y'all on Monday. Love you.
[02:41:07] Unknown:
Okay. Alright.
[02:41:09] Unknown:
Ciao. Love you, bro.
[02:41:12] Unknown:
He bails. He he bails as soon as soon as he says ciao. His finger is on the mouse button. Let me see if I can actually get the remote software to work. I don't think I have the memory available to do that. Not launching. Anyway, guys, we're still on the air. If you wanna continue talking for a little while, I'll take the stream down in about ten minutes. Awesome.
[02:41:38] Unknown:
Hooray. Hooray for Julian Austin.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Hee haw. Right.
[02:41:46] Unknown:
You crack me up, Joan. Hee haw.
[02:41:51] Unknown:
Seemed like you used the California number.
[02:41:54] Unknown:
Explain this? Yeah. He's from Santa Monica.
[02:41:57] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
Do you have the number? If you can text it to me, that would be great.
[02:42:06] Unknown:
No. I don't have it. I just Okay. I was looking for who was calling
[02:42:17] Unknown:
You're rubber banding, Brent.
[02:42:21] Unknown:
Can you hear me now? Yeah. That's much better.
[02:42:24] Unknown:
Rubber banding. I don't think I've ever heard the term rubber banding.
[02:42:30] Unknown:
I just saw the number. I just saw the number, and then I noted the guy's name, and that's all. I didn't copy it or anything. I don't see it.
[02:42:46] Unknown:
Well, hopefully, he'll continue to come on when he can, and hopefully, he will do the paperwork.
[02:42:54] Unknown:
How old's the guy? 32. Oh, wow. And he does gold and silver.
[02:43:02] Unknown:
Yeah. He works for, is it American Hartford Gold? I think it's American Hartford Gold. What you said. Yeah. I have a question, on the towel's law of nations. I have the book. Does anybody know, what the what section of the book or what section of the law gives us the right to self determination?
[02:43:38] Unknown:
Does anybody have that section handy? I I find it, but I don't think that exact verbiage has been, found in there. I think what that where that phrase comes from is the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Okay. You're right. I think that quote was taken from
[02:44:00] Unknown:
Do you know where that is? I'm Do you know where that is? At all, but you could probably Google Universal Declaration of Human Rights
[02:44:07] Unknown:
and maybe It's clear. Get a copy of it. Beginning. It's right at the beginning. Hold on.
[02:44:17] Unknown:
That was that was somebody that had, the chapter she's
[02:44:27] Unknown:
not on here, though.
[02:44:29] Unknown:
Lisa Hedden.
[02:44:31] Unknown:
Oh, Lisa. Lisa, do you have it? Pretty, please. You might not be here still.
[02:44:36] Unknown:
No. She just Googled it or looked at, you know, use search engine, look it up. Thanks, Bruce.
[02:44:42] Unknown:
Just look up self determination and bible quote. It's loaded.
[02:44:46] Unknown:
Thank
[02:44:50] Unknown:
you. By the way, I was sort of at the end there, Julie, with, Austin, if you might remind him if he's a Christian, that book of the hundreds. Yep. I I heard you. Yeah. Might be some of value to him. Lots and lots and lots of, footnotes in there, and it has a lot to do a lot to do with case law, but that case law usually comes back to Christianity.
[02:45:22] Unknown:
And that was Rick, not Bruce, Julie.
[02:45:26] Unknown:
Oh, sorry. They sound the same, the same voice. I always I don't know what it is about me. I always get Sam Uell mixed up with sketch. Well, I think it's a geographic thing because
[02:45:39] Unknown:
both, because both Bruce and Rick are not so far away. They're in the Southeastern, part of the country. And if and you go over to the Left Coast, that's where Samuel and Sketch are at. They're over there.
[02:46:00] Unknown:
You know what? I'm getting better, but they just sounded so alike. I was like, who is this? Are you Sketch or are you Sam u l?
[02:46:07] Unknown:
I think it's geographic, really.
[02:46:12] Unknown:
I think it's where they reside.
[02:46:15] Unknown:
Oh, good lord. Don't give us that residence thing again.
[02:46:26] Unknown:
Hey, Paul.
[02:46:29] Unknown:
Paul, this is this is Rich in Huntsville. Can you hear me?
[02:46:33] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:36] Unknown:
Hey. Did did you ever, get an opportunity to download that, that, book, America throw off the yoke?
[02:46:49] Unknown:
No. I think I actually had to buy a physical copy of it.
[02:46:53] Unknown:
Yeah. You told me it was $600. I'm I'm like I'm like, oh my god.
[02:47:01] Unknown:
No. I think I bought a copy of it, but I didn't pay that for it. There's no way I would ever pay that much for a book. And it's not that big. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be scannable. I just don't have the time to do it.
[02:47:17] Unknown:
Okay. Because, yeah, I was, a long time ago, I think I might have mentioned it, when I, when I was in the service over in Germany, it was in 1987 period. I I had a craving to go over to Czechoslovakia, to Prague. I wanted to go to Prague. So I didn't have a passport because I was I was overseas as a soldier, so we didn't have passports. We just had the, sofa agreement cards, which is basically basically our ID cards. But, anyway, I read that, my my father had given me that that book, America Throw Off the Yoke. And I when I was reading, and it was it was differentiating, the, difference between Washington DC and, citizenship and the, several states. So when I filled out my passport, overseas in Europe, there was that, 28, USC, seventeen forty six, I believe it was, that I remember looking at. And based upon that America threw off the yoke, I checked without The United States.
So, yeah. I got my passport. I went to Prague. And, then years later, I I hear, you know, Roger talking about, this and then that that form, it reminded me of that form. So I've I've actually filled up that form back in '87 without The United States. So I noticed that also when I came back to The States, and I had transitioned out of the military and I became a civilian over there working for the, working for the government. When I got back to The States here in Huntsville, I remember they somebody, told me that I had to I had to fill out a a a another form, and I was told that I had to put with, with The United States where I couldn't, remain employed.
So I did that. And and then I hear Roger talking about it, and I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, it's like ping pong, within, without, within, without. So, I'm without again. But, yeah. I just wanted to say that they, emphasized me do within The United States when I got back to The States or I wouldn't be able to be employed.
[02:50:31] Unknown:
I yield I had another guy that had that situation before also. Roger told the story about what they whipped him in that office so quick it put his neck snapped.
[02:50:50] Unknown:
And there's and, also, for any of you folks out there in California, which, which is where I started, I began, my my, basically, my life out there in San Diego. There's a guy. He's an attorney. He's a he's a lawyer in, Los Angeles. And I saw some videos on YouTube about ten years ago of him fighting him fighting the judicial system there in California because he's he was talking about how corrupt it was. His name is, Richard Fine. And, apparently, he they California, they forced him to, I I guess he spent about a year in jail or prison, and they let him out. But this guy, I mean, I've seen video of video footage of him, and, all of the people that were, you know, being exposed to what he was trying to expose the judicial system in California about that, yeah, that's the same thing that we're, we're trying to expose the matrix with the the the judicial system and how, how corrupt it is. But, I'm kinda curious if he's still, active and alive.
I haven't really seen anything looking looking about, on YouTube. But does anybody know if if if this Richard Fine attorney, out of LA, Hollywood? I I guess he apparently, he represented a lot of the, Hollywood folks, back in the day. But, yeah, he like I say, he went to jail for about a year. But he's he's, he had a following. I'm still curious if he's still active or a lot or alive because he he might have passed away for all I know. I yield.
[02:53:02] Unknown:
I know nothing. I'm in the Bay Area Of California.
[02:53:08] Unknown:
Fine and attorney is two strikes.
[02:53:10] Unknown:
Yeah. It was That's a it was on YouTube. I think I might even send a link, to to you, Paul, a couple days ago.
[02:53:21] Unknown:
Okay. That's I found another term in the book of the hundreds that I wasn't aware of. It's called the right of avoidance, which basically means that you can use that to remove yourself from a contract where it wasn't disclosed properly, it was fraudulent, etcetera, etcetera. That's the first place I really looked into the, also the doctrine of necessity. The book is really loaded with I mean, I really need to read it all over again because there's just so much in there that boggles the mind. The footnotes alone, there's hundreds and hundreds of footnotes and a lot of case law.
[02:54:00] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce. Bruce, can you hear me?
[02:54:17] Unknown:
Yes. I can hear you. Hey, Bruce.
[02:54:20] Unknown:
What did you say to to Roger, today about, your hometown?
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. What?
[02:54:30] Unknown:
About the the that's why they succeed. What what did Roger had said that you said that's why?
[02:54:37] Unknown:
I was questioning in my mind what he was saying all along. And today, it really probably came through to me that they could they I didn't know the reason why they were, you know, writing the documents that's sustained from the nation. But now I think it was their intention before, and then this civil war came, and then they finally put it in the fourteenth, you know, amendment. It was true. You know? And they knew what was going on. John c Calhoun was fighting him. And when he was grew up in South Carolina, and also he was vice president. He was fighting when doing stuff like that. So, anyway, we raised the gun to go.
[02:55:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. And so you're saying they succeeded for what is that reason, though?
[02:55:33] Unknown:
I think they saw it coming. Saw what's it coming? What Roger was talking about.
[02:55:38] Unknown:
Fourteenth amendment. Right.
[02:55:43] Unknown:
And All this all the entities that they were doing was leading them into what Roger was talking about, and we we saw it because we had such a, you know, like, gym of a guy that put his cell phone line, you know, in in, you know, in in the scope of arguing with them, you know, thirty and forty years before the civil war started. He saw it coming
[02:56:13] Unknown:
So don't ask me now. Go ahead. Sorry. What?
[02:56:19] Unknown:
He saw the the thing that Roger was talking about. They was planning that years ago even before they did it.
[02:56:26] Unknown:
So so Abbeville Abbeville saw
[02:56:32] Unknown:
The people in Abbeville saw that what he was fighting for, Tennessee Calhoun.
[02:56:38] Unknown:
Oh, so which was what?
[02:56:41] Unknown:
It was a he was representing South Carolina in in Washington, and also he was vice president.
[02:56:48] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And so he was fighting for states. Right? Or I mean, what was he fighting for?
[02:56:53] Unknown:
I can't understand. You got northern background.
[02:56:56] Unknown:
Okay. That's not from me.
[02:56:59] Unknown:
Somebody's hammering something. Okay, Nessa. I guess it's dead now. Go ahead.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
So so Abbeville people saw that John c Calhoun was fighting for states' rights or
[02:57:11] Unknown:
not Yes. They have a they have a college here in Huntsville, Alabama, John c Calhoun. It's a community college.
[02:57:20] Unknown:
Wow. Yeah. We have a road named by him, John c Calhoun. Yep. We have a highway, John c Calhoun in, South Carolina.
[02:57:37] Unknown:
We gave him, let's see. His his father was a wagon train master.
[02:57:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Go
[02:57:44] Unknown:
go to Louisiana, the king's territory, and they the king gave him land in in the territory, and they went right at the border. I mean, at this at the, middle of the shoe, you'll see Abbeville, Missouri. I mean, not Missouri, Louisiana. And they had this the the shrimp festival, largest festival in the world, the shrimp Every year.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Bruce.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
Oh, you're welcome.
[02:58:19] Unknown:
Joan, are you back in, The USA, or are you still down down south? I'm still in Costa Rica
[02:58:26] Unknown:
Woo. Because I'm doing a house because I'm still doing a house renovation down here. It takes way longer here than in South Carolina.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:58:39] Unknown:
So you are you renovating the house yourself?
[02:58:42] Unknown:
Well, it's it feels like it feels like it. I mean, I have to be attend I have to be attentive to every detail or it can go wrong.
[02:58:54] Unknown:
How how far are you from the ocean? Two blocks. Oh my god. Any surf where you are? Any surfing?
[02:59:03] Unknown:
Famous for surfing here. Quite famous for surfing, fishing, yoga.
[02:59:10] Unknown:
Oh, wow.
[02:59:13] Unknown:
Hang not hang gliding. What do you zip lining? Horseback riding?
[02:59:18] Unknown:
So so so do you like it there, or are you, are you I guess you do if if if you're, if you're down there right now.
[02:59:29] Unknown:
Well, I'm I'm mainly here for the warm weather in the when it's wintertime in South Carolina.
[02:59:36] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:59:37] Unknown:
I'm I'm here for that six months of winter, and then I go back to South Carolina for six months of summer. Usually, but not
[02:59:46] Unknown:
Not right now.
[02:59:50] Unknown:
And Joan, do you speak fluent Spanish? Hi.
[03:00:11] Unknown:
You know what? I would have under I apologize. Promise I promise I would have understand that understood that if my phone or somebody's connection didn't break
[03:00:21] Unknown:
up a couple of times.
[03:00:25] Unknown:
For real. I found that, I found that, YouTube, video or one of them that, I had brought up earlier about this Richard Fine, saved California taxpayers multimillion dollars fighting corruption. And, yeah, this this this Richard Fine guy, Yeah. He literally he went to prison, jail in California for a year, but he was a prominent, attorney. And he was he was exposing the, the corrupt, system and the judicial system that goes on in in California. And I I was just kinda curious if, anybody out there in California had had heard of them or or known about what he's been, what he had been trying to fight against there in California.
Because, you know, as I say, I grew up in San Diego, and my my father was, my father was in the, he worked for the San Diego chef, sheriff's department. And he, he worked in the, court system. He was a patrol officer. He worked jail, transporting prisoners. He did all of it. They they they rotate you, throughout the, law enforcement system. But, yeah, I remember my dad telling me that they, he used to he used to pass, pass out these, what were they called? I'm trying to remember what the title was. It was, informed citizens, on the judicial system. They were little little pamphlets, but, I I think that they they had, they they squash that, information.
And, this Richard Fine guy, I'm sure is part of that, informing the public about the the judicial system and the, fully informed jury association type, information. But this, this YouTube channel that it's called Richard Feidn save California taxpayers multimillion dollar dollars fighting corruption. And it's, by, it says PA voter information network. So that's the, I guess the person that probably put this out. But anyway, I I I yield.
[03:03:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Like I said, if you go to thank you for sharing that, by the way. If you go to YouTube, there's so many amazing videos of this attorney. He talks about how he knocks off the judges. He's exposing them. In fact, I think when one of the interviews he's interviewed by I'm not sure who. I'm not gonna say. I thought Alex Jones maybe. Anyway, he's talking about lawless America, and he, he's a former US, prosecutor, and he's also an expert on international law. He's been held in solitary, coercive confinement because he's exposing all the fraud. You guys ought to just go look up all the amazing videos about this guy on YouTube. I just typed in Richard Fine attorney, and I see all these amazing interviews. So it talks about his imprisonment, and it talks about, oh, it's just it's he he's a patriot. He's a he's an amazing man. Thank you for sharing that.
[03:04:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm just I Julie, this is Rich in Huntsville. I'm just curious if he's also still still with us because, the videos that I remember watching for are are from, like, ten years ago at least. And back then, I think he was, like, seven in his seventies. So he's probably in his eighties now, and I'm I'm hoping he's still alive and with us because, you know, I just heard Roger talk about Diane, Spengola, passed passed away, and I didn't know that. I used to listen to her every, every day, actually. So, I hope this this attorney, Richard Fine's still alive and with us, and fighting out there in California and and, get a hold of a second. I know that, he was freed from jail.
[03:05:18] Unknown:
I think that he was freed from jail on but he was 70 years old at the time, and it was 02/2010. So you're, he would be ninety, ninety five today. I don't think he's with us anymore.
[03:05:33] Unknown:
Can you put can y'all put it in the chat?
[03:05:37] Unknown:
I'm not on I'm not on, can somebody else do that? Because I'm only on my phone. I don't have, I'm on the FCC, app right now. If somebody can type that in, that would be great for me. Thank you.
[03:05:51] Unknown:
I've got it on my I've got it pulled up on YouTube, but I don't know how to share it in the chat.
[03:05:58] Unknown:
I'm, There's a there's a, there's a button, Rich, with that says share. You just hit, press on the button share, and then you can copy and paste, in the chat room.
[03:06:13] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm not, Yeah. I'm sorry, but I'm literally technically illiterate when it I'm not in the chat room or any I'm just on the phone and
[03:06:25] Unknown:
Okay. I'll just, I'll get on I'll get on FCC, and I'll post it there for you guys.
[03:06:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thank thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah. I hope you still have
[03:06:35] Unknown:
It it'd be good to have a middle initial and the spelling of the last name.
[03:06:40] Unknown:
The last name is Fine, f as in Frank, I n e, like fine wine or a fine steak meal.
[03:06:48] Unknown:
Middle initial?
[03:06:50] Unknown:
I don't have one. I just he's not listed with an initial. You can just type in Richard Fine, attorney, California.
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Yeah. He was a federal attorney, by the way. It's a pretty common name is all I'm saying.
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Yeah. He got, he was in he was on a quest to restore due process in the California judicial system, And he was only the only attorney of 208,000 California attorneys with the courage to challenge the California judiciary.
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That's what the abatement process does. It challenges it because it's unlawful.
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Yep. Oh, his middle initial is I as in Idaho. Attorney Richard I Fine.
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Okay. Thanks.
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Thank you. He was, he's never been convicted of a crime. He was jailed for following an attempt to disqualify judge David Piyafi from sitting on a case where he had accepted payments from a party on the case. And the fact that judge Yaffe refused to step down from the case and instead presided on the case where he himself was involved and then ordered fine to jail, has been verified by the judge's own court test testimony. So it's in it's all about the corruption.
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Hi, boys and girls. This this is Shane.
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Hi, Shane.
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Alright. Now I would like to know how to get on to, tango.com. I would like to know how, I can follow through with this, information and be presented rather than just words. I would like some how to get on to to tango. Is it shatango.com or to tango.fm?
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It's on the website.
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Dotcom or ..fmdot, .com? I'm not sure.
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The metricsdocs.com. Oh. Do you have anything?
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Yes. Fine Fine was thrown in jail in solitary confinement for fourteen months for contempt of court. He was never charged with anything else.
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These judges rule like little tin gods. Shane, the chat room is numeral two radioranch.chitango.com.
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Okay. 2radioranch.chatango.com.
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And Chatango is chat and go, c h a t a n g o.
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Alright.
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Yeah.
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Two radio ranch dot chatango.
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Right. .Com.
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Thank you. Mhmm.
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Yeah. They frown on their club members breaking the rules.
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What happened to that judge? What happened to the judge that put that man in jail for fourteen months?
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What do you think? Nothing.
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That's what I thought. But Bruce had sure. You know?
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Well, Big Samper says the judge could do anything that court he wants to do short of, disturbing the peace. That's our due process according to Brent.
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Due due process.
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So isn't that why it's important for everybody to that that's that knows about those flim flam in the judicial system to, fill out an affidavit and file it in the county courthouse of their respective, jurisdictions?
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Well, of course, the first the first thing you do is you put it to secretary of state for it to have it meaning anywhere else. Right?
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Yeah. The we're talking. Yeah, correct. We're talking about federal, but then I'll see. That's what, that's what I did. That's what was my interpretation is is send that to affidavit that Roger Ed, wrote up and then, after you sent it to the secretary of state and, I, I got my, missus Robinson letter. But I went down. I went down and, filed it at the county Court courthouse. So if there's any kind of any kind of trouble that I run into, and I have to go to court, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him, like, what was it? Three days before you actually go to court, get in contact with the, what do they call it? The, the court the the clerk of that the clerk of the judge and and make sure that they get that filing that that you have at the county courthouse.
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Yeah. Roger, I think, it wanted us to send it to the district attorney and the AG and the sheriff. Those three were coming in.
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I think all I think that was also, saturated saturate everybody so there's there's no wiggle room for them. Yeah. I'm I'm currently trying to get mine,
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recorded in the land records, along with my affidavit and stuff. And then, when I do my notices, I'll let them know that it's sitting there as well, provided they record it, that is. You know?
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Yeah. I I remember years ago, people in the in the movement were talking about how you would also send the allodial title, I think, or anything for that matter. When you publish it in the local paper for, like, what is it, thirty days, and it doesn't get rebutted, then it stands as, you know, also law or, you know, evidence in a court. The only thing is, I guess, the newspaper kinda gone by the way of the dodo bird. So, I guess that would,
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yeah, I don't know if there's any newspapers at all. Gibson has you posted sixty, I think, one days in a public area, like a library, or you pick a spot that's public and you do it that way. And then you go record it at the county seat.
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Okay.
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Everybody's got these different I mean, I talked it over with my, my title guy, and he says, so if you get it recorded at the county level, that's all you need to do. You don't he says, when we transfer all these different properties for different people, there's no notice other than it's put in the county record, and everybody knows that's where you look if you wanna find out anything.
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Mhmm. Right. But what what but you got it folks out there, you gotta be careful because, when I I had to go I had to go to, court here a few months back, and, I went down to the county courthouse. I think it was a couple of days before I had to go to court, and I wanted to, I asked them. I said, do you have this, filing? And, they told me no. They couldn't find any filing. And, and then, I told them I told them I said, you gotta be kidding me. I filed I paid $25 for you to file this affidavit, and you can't find it. And I then I re then I told them I I said, I think it is being filed in, what they call, oh my gosh. What's the term?
It's it's a I can't think of the term now. I'm I'm having a a a dummy attack. It's it's like an accessory. It it it's the accessory file. It's it's not the main file. In other words, they put it at the back of the dagum file cabinet. Assume. Miscellaneous. Miscellaneous file. That's where they hit that's where they hit it. And I reminded them. I said, you need to take a look at the miscellaneous file. And, yeah, they they, then they then they came up and they, they said, okay. Yeah. We found it. And I said, could I could I, I would like a few more copies of that, by the way.
So they made a couple more copies and gave it to me so I can use it, you know, and prove that it had been filed at the county courthouse a couple years back.
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Yeah. That's the nice thing about it. It's been record corded in the land records is because then you're, getting a, of course, it will serve first be notarized, and then it it will be stamped by the recorder and then potentially mailed back to you as well with the address that you give them.
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Yep. That's right.
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So it's pretty hard to deny that doesn't exist or we can't find it. You know? That's that's the cool thing. It's even better than the paper of record, I think, but I am probably also gonna publish Gross's declaration of independence in the paper as he suggests. But I'm also trying to get a file that document in the land records.
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Well, you you being out you being out there in California. Yeah. No matter how much people talk about how rotten and bad that California has become, I still miss I still miss San Diego. And, you know, I I've I've traveled I've traveled the whole state. I mean, I've seen the whole state of California. And it's just a view it's a beautiful state. It's it's got the it's got so much variety to it. Unfortunately, all the, liberal liberal, Marxists, they all moved out to California back in the sixties.
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Well, you know, this this rot is in every state. You know, they've
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it's
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and and and one thing, you know, when Murka submitted her, paperwork to the AG, they they said we, we honor our private citizens. We look out for them. They know. You just have to claim it. You know?
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Oh, absolutely. Thanks for bring and thanks for bringing that up too, about, quote, private citizen because I've noticed all this controversy and stuff going on about, like, going after Hillary Clinton, for example. Shoot. I noticed I noticed that, the, people on mainstream media when they were addressing how, you know, Hillary Clinton, being involved when she was working in the system, they all didn't say that she was a US citizen. They all said that she was in a private citizen. So that told me right there that these people within the main mainstream media, when they they mentioned that word private citizen, Yeah. That kinda told me right there that she's trying to slimeball her way out of, all the harm that she did back when she was in the in the system.
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Yes. The lives the lives she had lost.
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What was that last statement?
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The lives that she has had lost. What was it? In Bosnia? What was that? Like, Syria? Yeah. Pretty bad.
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Gaddafi.
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Yeah.
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I keep on here I keep on hearing that, Gaddafi was actually turning turning his his, that North Africa into a a jewel, creating, all kinds of construction. There was no debt. I guess their banking system there was was, well, one of the one of the systems that they had to try to take down because it was, it was a user you know, it was a nonusory type of, banking system. And
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Yeah. Competition. Yes.
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There was a couple called the McDonald's that were over there working prior to this in the oilfield business. They had a, like, a bacteria that ate up oil sludge and stuff like that, and they were helping clean up some of these older sites. They tell a great story about how wonderful that country was, the people, the system, and they were hosted on TrueNews. The last guy to host them, I told Michael Herzog about it, and he I think he had them on once or twice, but they paid a heavy price for doing that as well. The third largest underground aquifer in the world underlies Libya.
Yeah. Wow. And he was bringing it up to the surface. Wow. They bombed us from the first NATO bombed the crap out of. I know a lady that who had a brother that worked for him and, said it was Greg over there until our intervention. Yes. My My my understanding that Gaddafi still was living in a tent because he said he's gonna live in a tent until absolutely everybody in the country is housed. That's correct.
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We had to bomb them back into freedom.
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Irony. If anybody haven't heard that McDonald's testimony about that country, it's worth hearing. The Mc the McDougall's. McDougall's. Thank you, Brent. Who interviewed them? Wasn't the first
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one Joyce Riley Joyce Riley did.
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Okay. I told Herzog about it so that if there's an RVN post for him and his he didn't have that many shows, so you should be able to find it there too. Weren't the McDougall's from Arkansas?
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Something like that. No. I think you're thinking of the Clinton ones maybe, but possibly.
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Alright. Yeah. I remember some McDougall. I I could've sworn that that McDougall sounds familiar. Like, it was goes back to
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the to the Clint's Susan McDougall.
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I don't know. It just sounds familiar. It sounds like some type of an association, back at or some of the McDougal's, didn't they go to jail or something? Yeah. Yeah. And they wouldn't they really wouldn't they wouldn't talk about it because I guess they didn't wanna be in the body count supposedly.
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Well, the guy died. Okay.
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I believe that was Jim and Susan McDougall. That couple you're talking about was on Joyce that couple you're talking about was on Joyce repeatedly, Brent. Yeah. They were frequent guests. They were on every two weeks there for several months back, you know, I don't know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, not too long before she died.
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Yep.
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So are they both gone now?
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No idea on the Clinton McDougall's. I don't I had never kept track of them.
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Jim McDougall was yeah. He died quite a while ago.
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Did you guys see that, that reality series family? The Chrisleys, Julie Chrisley and the Chrisleys know best that they were sentenced to prison for a very long time for mortgage fraud and that Trump just pardoned them so he must know that the mortgage fraud is all one big joke too. Too bad he doesn't know that, too bad he doesn't want to release files. As Larry said, there was, about a little bit over a minute of that video that was doctored and that's the time where Epstein was shown leaving the prison system. I don't know if that video is real or not. Could be CGI, but it really looks real.
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Trump is probably on the Epstein list.
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Hey, Joan. I I I think you could be correct, but I have, uncovered rape cases against him that never went to trial because the the victims were paid off. So I think these people are all compromised in these, big positions and destroyed that.
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Yeah. How could Trump be guilty of rape when he's a germophobe?
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I thought that was Obama.
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No. He was a booty buster and still is. But Trump doesn't like being around strange germs.
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But he also but he also, Brent, likes to grab him by the so how much of a germaphobe is he was he? I don't know. I'm going by what Alex said. Wow. Yeah. Haven't you seen that where he said that way back in the day?
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Yeah. You can guys talk all kinds of cash crap as far as doing is a different deal.
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I know, but I'm just saying some of the little clips I've seen over the years of them, that was one of them being quite young saying, yeah. He's whatever. He can just go up and grab him by the that's not much of a germaphobe to me. But you're I I know. Doing it is different. I know. I just there's a lot of gold diggers out there. So so you know? Yeah. Mhmm. 24 karat. Excuse me?
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24 karat.
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Oh, yes. And even aside from gold diggers when they're young like that, I mean, I guess you call them that. They're just out to have a good time and party it up with some people with money, men with money.
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Now what about, what about this Diddy, Diddy thing? Supposedly, he's they should make it sound like he's skating basically out of this. But doesn't he have a whole bunch of hundreds more, quote, lawsuits
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against him? So doesn't that mean he's gonna have to shoot the He's got he's got he got skated out of the criminal, and now he's just got civil. So it's just all one big hoax because all the look at who the prosecutor was. Comey's daughter? I mean, come on.
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Right. But my my question is, even though he's he's gone through, quote, one, a trial, aren't there, like, a whole bunch of other people in line to take him to court? Yeah. For
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civil civil, and he's got all this stuff in trust. So good luck trying to get anything out of him. He doesn't own anything.
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Well, I honest to god, I I would think that if if if somebody drops a roofie or whatever they call it back, you know, in your drink unknowingly, that's like poisoning the that's like poisoning the truth. That's the same that's the same thing that this one soldier did back when I was over in Germany and and, one of the other battalions that this this guy was this guy was, he was urinating in the daggy orange juice vat, and he got caught. And he, he got court martialed, and I think he spent, like, ten years in the brig. So it kinda sounds similar to you know, like, if you're if you're gonna drop a roofie in somebody's drink and they don't know it, and they next thing you know, they they they wake up, three days later and they don't know where the hell they are, kinda sounds like to me that, that's a crime.
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Isn't isn't that exactly what they railroaded Bill Cosby for? I'm almost certain that is what he was accused of was drugging.
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Yep. Absolutely.
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But didn't he didn't he supposedly admit that he did that?
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I don't know. But I know Bill Cosby, one of his things was and I'm not I don't I don't know enough about the story, but I know the alternative side of that was like, and I can't think of his name now. Denzel Washington also will come out a lot and speak out about the degradation of the black family, and that's really been the fall of the black communities. It is them taking down the family units, and and and black men need to stand up and take responsibilities for their family. Am am I saying it right, mister Rockman?
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Yeah. I'm on the way to work. So but, yeah, Cosby was gonna buy 10 BC, and the tribe put a halt to it.
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So all that was a lie? That was a lie about Bill Cosby or the truth?
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That was the truth. And he did Represent. I have a I I have a distant family member who was one of the 25 women on the cover of the Time magazine who was affected by him.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Yeah. It, it it sounds to me I don't think they need They should ever let this Epstein thing go because it's connected to everything that it's it's the dots are gonna connect to the whole reason why we've had all these world wars, in the military industrial complex, the whole thing. It's I think it goes that deep and that far.
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Well, there's also a lot of very, very huge money laundering aside from the human trafficking and that stuff. The money laundering stuff going on there with that man. Like, I watched a pretty good video, I don't know, one day this week that had a lot of stuff about him. And and that guy in Columbus, Ohio, Wex Wexner? Wex him?
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You know? He's he owns Victoria's Secrets or used to.
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Right. Right. And, Epstein was given absolute I mean, he that man signed over his whole fortune to Epstein. Gave him complete control of his finances. Who the heck was that man?
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For a dollar? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's a Really? Hear about a deck of submarine, submarine base underneath the, underneath the, Little Saint James.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Max just just Lane Maxwell was a submarine? I don't know what they're called. Pilots, private Pilot.
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Yep.
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Does anybody know if there's a archive of Joyce Riley's Power Hour shows? Uh-huh. Samuel, did you freeze? Or Yeah. I was just wondering if there's any power hour archives.
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Oh, I thought you said there are.
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No. I didn't.
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I don't know. Let me I'll look real quick.
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The the only place I know you could probably get an interview with the McDougall's was Michael Herzog did, I think, one or two of them while he was on RBN the second time. After Stap Miller had passed, he came back on.
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You can still find them, on RBN. They've got an archive that, you should be able to pull that stuff up.
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Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I was just wondering if there's one for Joyce as well because they she obviously was the first one that I know of to do these interviews. She had, I guess, quite a few of them. Anyway, it's if you have never heard of the McDougall's talk about Libyots, it's worth hearing it. They had Aspipa as a country for the what the benefits were for the people beyond imagination. Like, 27¢ gas and any education in the world that you wanted, they'd send you to other countries, housing, food, you name it. It was all supplied by the government's oil riches.
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I remember I remember when Beyonce, when she was kinda just, starting and she started to become well, actually became, you know, pretty well known in the music industry. So I'm not if I'm not, pretty certain that she went oh, she did a tour over there. She played for, Gaddafi. And I I could've sworn I saw that on, like, sixty minutes. Like, this is probably about fifteen years ago or something. But, yeah. Does does anybody ever remember anything about Beyonce going and performing for, colonel Gaddafi back in the day? And and do we, also, do we know what month that was that, the McDougal's were on the, show?
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The only the only The what show? Oh, go ahead.
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What did you say? Hoyts Hoytsog?
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Hoytsog?
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Herzog. Yeah. Michael Herzog.
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Yeah. Do you so when you go into the archives on RBN, don't you kinda have to know around what month period that the, McDougall's were on?
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Well, Michael was on the second time after sometime after John had passed because they had, a falling out. So I know it's it's after after he came back, I guess.
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So are we talking about '22?
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I'm not real sure what year, but that seems like it'd be about right. This is the same period of time that Herzog was causing all the stir on the on the wand as well, which was unfortunate. I used to like that guy a lot until he started doing that crap, which was wrong. But, and then he disappeared and went on, did his own thing. I probably still have his email. I could probably, ask him if he knows if that's in the archives or not. Maybe he'll let me know.
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Doesn't, Tom, I don't I don't know what Tom's last name is that that do you yeah. Doesn't, I mean, isn't he kinda running RBN now?
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Yeah. I think so. Or at least, they give him that title. I don't know how involved he really is. But Yeah. He could probably he could probably,
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pull it up or find out. Or
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Yeah. He comes on every once in a while too, so any time to ask him. Murder probably also find out since he's a host.
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Okay. Yeah. Because I used to listen to RBN, almost twenty four seven. But, yeah. When when Roger when Roger came back, and I guess around '22, I'm like I said to myself, I remember him from back back in, like, '20 what was it? 2010 or 2012? And, I had wondered where he had gone off to. So then, you know, now that now that Roger's back on the air, I started I've been listening to him, every day instead of, RVN. So I need to I need to go into the archives and and try to listen to RVN and see what's going on on on their side of the spectrum.
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So, Samuel, did you say you thought it might be when he came back and was posting the national intel report?
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Yeah. Herzog came back after John passed.
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Uh-huh.
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John had kicked him off when he was alive, so he had some kind of a falling out, and then he he came back quite a bit time after John passed.
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Maybe Yeah. What it's showing is all I'm getting for archives for Herzog is it's starting in '23, and it's with him as a special host for Stab Miller. But I also
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I also gone more than that. Getting descriptions. You know? So Stab Miller been Stab Miller died before 02/2023.
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Yeah. So this is but you said there was a while after he passed. I'm just telling you what the archives are showing for me. Okay. Without But does it it's doesn't it have, shows for the individual hosts
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listed?
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Some, but
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So I would think NerdDog would have a list of shows for a certain period of time, and in there, you you would as a title, you would probably see it under McDougal McDougal interview or something like that, I would think. But I've never really been in those archives to to have any No. Real appreciation
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for how they're set up. I have, and I and I looked a little bit. I haven't been over here at all for a long time, really. But all I'm seeing, like, as far as hosts is Michael Herzog, and he just did the the host. You know? It's not and I think his show was called The American Awakening.
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Yeah. Probably. Mhmm. That rings a bell. I thought he was a great host. I thought he did a good job always, and I used to always follow his show, but he didn't stay on very long.
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Yeah. At a at a point, I thought he actually left because of health issues, and then there was another point where he and John, I thought he and John first had a whole falling out, and then and then he came back, and then he had health issues. Herzog did and left, and then he came back for a bit, like you said, after John died, maybe. But I I didn't listen to it much. I quit listening before John died, actually, a lot. Because Mhmm. Because of that, you could you would start liking a show, and they would be on there for no time, and then they're replaced. And they were just flipping hosts like pancakes.
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John was a pretty difficult character. I he he was I tried to give him a little helpful information one time, and he just rode up one side of me and down the other. And I says, hey. Wait a minute, dude. I'm on your side. I guess that's how you get an aneurysm in your gut.
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Maybe. Yeah.
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It's been too much pressure on your gut.
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Yeah.
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Getting all cranked up about stuff that doesn't matter. You know? Yeah. I know. And take everything so personally. Yeah.
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My daughter has a new learn to be a duck. Gotta learn to be a duck. Just let stuff roll off your back.
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All I was doing is I was pointing out and I did it privately. I would did call in the show and confront them or anything. I did it through an email or a phone call. I forget which. And, I just told him that he made an error in his statement on one of the shows, and he might wanna correct it. Well, he sure as hell didn't wanna hear that. He starts grilling me like crazy. And then he says, hey. Wait a minute. I'm on your side. I'm just pointing something out here. You know? No big deal. A
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lot of these guys have too much ego. That's all that is to me. Yeah.
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It's not really ego. It's power.
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You think? I don't think in the in the in respect of the things in the world that I would view John Stapmiller as having all that much power, but he had quite an ego.
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Yeah. Well, he was never wrong, obviously.
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Oh, that's a narcissist, isn't it? You can't admit the wrong. Gotta label people.
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That's how we get over this. I can't remember what it was about. It was something that, he said about, what was the big host there in the middle of the day for the longest time for years?
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Rivera.
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Michael Rivera. Rivera. Michael Rivera. Mike he said something about Michael Rivera that wasn't correct, and I got it from Michael Rivera. And I told him about it, and that's what he couldn't accept. That he said something about Michael Rivera that wasn't accurate, and I had asked Michael Rivera about it. So
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Michael Rivera was one that I liked, didn't like. He he he seemed, you know, he was pretty informative, but he was very stuck on and could not see the corruption in some things. But he had a long show, like, three hours, and he hardly ever had guests. Like, how much can a person like to hear their own voice? Wowee. Yeah. But every now and then, he would have guests, and he was a very good interviewer most of the time also. I always wished he he would have had more of a guest oriented show.
[03:43:43] Unknown:
He usually ran up as if I remember correctly, the current events, and I sorta like that for a show because I don't watch any other, at the time, any other news. So he sort of brought it up to date every day. But, yeah, he's he, there are a number of things that he was not going to discuss.
[03:44:03] Unknown:
The Jews and the national debt.
[03:44:08] Unknown:
And anything NASA. Anything NASA, possible corruption because he whatever was affiliated with them at some point. So Yeah. That's true.
[03:44:18] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:44:19] Unknown:
Well, I'll see you all later. I'll talk to you tomorrow or, I mean, Monday. Alright? Bye bye.
[03:44:27] Unknown:
Bye. Nice hearing you again.
[03:44:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd love to have a copy of one of those interviews. I mean, I looked online, and there is just nothing. The McDougall's, Olivia, Joyce Riley, not a don't exist. They're they're pretty good. And I'm sure you on that one. You looked Yandex? Yes. And Brave through the, a AI. Nothing.
[03:44:55] Unknown:
You know, Jim Ram used to record all of Joyce Riley's shows when she sold them, you know, each segment of every show. Remember when she used to sell those?
[03:45:06] Unknown:
I don't.
[03:45:07] Unknown:
Yeah. She would advertise, you know, each segment of her daily show was for sale. And I don't know how much she charged, but Jim Ram was the guy that was recording all those for her on disc.
[03:45:20] Unknown:
Wow. I never knew that, Dave. I never knew that. Yeah. It's pretty wild.
[03:45:26] Unknown:
Jim was doing these, you know, expos for years, you know, selling ammo and stuff like that, you know? And, and he would sell those shows for her at those expos, and she sold them on her show. I I remember her advertising those long before I knew Jim, you know, and then he was the guy doing that. That blew me away.
[03:45:55] Unknown:
I just went because I know there had been times over the years since Joyce died, and and the PowerMall was still up. You know? Yeah. Yep. And I I just clicked over there, and and the site's still the powermall.com, and it and it shows some weird products and stuff down there, but this thing comes up at the top with a little sign on it like a closed door. Sorry. We're closed forever.
[03:46:21] Unknown:
Oh, really? Yeah. Well, remember when that, Dave Krieger took over the show? He
[03:46:29] Unknown:
was the Krieger wasn't Dave Krieger her ex husband?
[03:46:33] Unknown:
Nope. That was Dave,
[03:46:35] Unknown:
Von Klein.
[03:46:36] Unknown:
Yep. Von Kleist. There you go. Yeah. He was there on RBN just, you know, like, last year, and then he moved over to, Red Pill Radio or something like that. He's on there now. Red State. Red State. Thank you, Samuel. Yep. He he replaced, that Preston guy because his show cut I don't know what was going on with his show. He'd he had so much dead air.
[03:47:03] Unknown:
I think I think Davon Plaist is who Roger had run ins with down in Argentina.
[03:47:09] Unknown:
It is. Yeah. Roger blamed him for stealing a ounce of silver from or gold from him or something like that.
[03:47:17] Unknown:
And his passport. Wasn't it also his passport? Yeah. He might have yeah. Yeah.
[03:47:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Never found out what happened to Preston. He just went boomp, and he was gone.
[03:47:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Is he who is Preston? Was he the one that was doing the California state. Doing the California state stuff. Yeah. Yep. Yep. He was a school principal or something. He's just gone?
[03:47:41] Unknown:
Just went away. Gone. I I've heard him interviewed a couple times since the show disappeared, and Von took over that time slot. But I've heard Paul interviewed on Dave Hodges' show a couple of times since he disappeared, and they act like his show's still out there, but it's not on Red State Radio anymore.
[03:48:01] Unknown:
I thought that movement was starting to really and base you used to follow them a lot, Samuel, and I thought that was really starting to take precedent in California getting a lot of attention and based on all the farm counties versus these couple counties where the cities are that run the state. I thought they were starting to get some real good traction on that.
[03:48:26] Unknown:
What's the gal that was on RVN with the name of Rose?
[03:48:32] Unknown:
She threw Paul Preston under the bus pretty good, a couple of her shows. I don't remember other the only I can think of is Rosa Corey, and she was at the agenda 21, but I don't never knew of her having a show.
[03:48:44] Unknown:
That was perfect. She was a Zionist.
[03:48:47] Unknown:
Maggie Rose?
[03:48:48] Unknown:
Maggie Rose. She she threw Preston under the bus. She said he was never a principal. He was a janitor.
[03:48:55] Unknown:
I you know, I never liked her when she took over that, for, Bennett, Jeffrey Bennett. She was filling in in his show for him and I she's a Zionist, man. Her and that dude she has on from, Oregon or something, they're both Zionist, big time Zionists.
[03:49:15] Unknown:
Okay. Are we talking about Maggie Rose or Rose DeCory? Because Joe joined me with you. Okay. Maggie knows who I'm talking about. Who Rosa Corey is also. Right? Yeah. I do. But she's and she's not a Zionist.
[03:49:29] Unknown:
She's part of the movement Democrats Against Agenda twenty one, I think.
[03:49:33] Unknown:
She's dead now. She's a lesbian.
[03:49:36] Unknown:
Maggie Rose said Paul Preston was never a principal of anything. He was the janitor at the school.
[03:49:42] Unknown:
Yeah. She's a Zionist. She's a pig. I don't believe her for a second.
[03:49:49] Unknown:
Oh, it's like, woah.
[03:49:51] Unknown:
Where's Paul? I want to talk to Paul, you know? Yeah. Well, he's got the power because he disappeared off of that red state, man. Just like, you know, you couldn't hear me. He would he would say something and then he he would be gone, you know, and the whole show would be just dead air. Yeah. He definitely had a technical problem. I you know, and he supposedly had stage four cancer and went through the whole killing routine and survived that. So
[03:50:19] Unknown:
Wow. He was probably a pretty tough dude, but maybe all that came back too, I figured. Maybe. Well, Reese, I'm telling you. I heard him not too long ago,
[03:50:29] Unknown:
on, Dave Hodges show, and he he promoted Preston's show, but he didn't say what the platform was that I remember.
[03:50:38] Unknown:
Okay. We'll have to look for him again then. So Yeah. He's still out there as far as I know. I talked to him a couple times on the phone about, you know, the, our status. And wouldn't it be wonderful if we can bring in the new state and give everybody that education to make a decision on what they want to be.
[03:50:59] Unknown:
Yeah. That'd be huge.
[03:51:02] Unknown:
Yeah. That's quite a while ago, and he was like, well, man, I so I've got so many fish to fry already. It seems to do. So plus, he used to keep me up on, Lake Oroville as well because he he lives right his studio was right below it. When that thing topped, he was up there watching what was going on and reported on it. I missed what you said. Are are you talking about the dam? Yes. Okay. Yep. That's something like three and a half square miles of water behind, an earthen dam, and it they didn't even crush the rock when they packed it. It's all marbles.
It's all river rock from the, hydraulic mining that went on in that area. I would never What reporting Never lived below a dam, especially that one.
[03:51:57] Unknown:
You know, Samuel, as much reporting as I've heard on that dam that it was, you know, gonna blow any minute. Have you been there to visit it? Is it really gonna blow, or is that all just fear mongering?
[03:52:11] Unknown:
Well, I think it's got some issues, but they did they did it over over a billion dollars worth of repair. When if they would have kept the maintenance up, from what I understand, it would have been $250,000 that they just didn't do. And so when that thing topped, it was really vulnerable. Some of the gates didn't even open. They're all rusty and stuff. So they did a big uplift to it. They they paved the whole side of it so it that used to be ground. So if it ever tops again, it's not just gonna erode, you know, soil away. It's it's mostly covered with concrete now. So if it's spillway or it goes over the top, it's gonna be contained by a lot more concrete work. But Mhmm.
Preston brought a lawsuit against them for when they were doing that fix because they were using a lot of explosives, and he did not feel that that was wise. So he brought a lawsuit against him and stuff. So, you know
[03:53:23] Unknown:
It sure seemed like they wanted that thing to fail.
[03:53:26] Unknown:
I wouldn't be surprised. Right. The governor is against this this governor is against dams. He's trying to move. Well,
[03:53:38] Unknown:
you know, dams Walla calls them dam dams, you know, because they block the minerals from flowing, and, you know, they cause a lot of problems, but, they have, you know, I'd rather have electricity than not. And because they you know, when before we lived here, we couldn't have solar in our community. They wouldn't allow it. You had to have permission, you know, even in a even a national, you know, where where I lived in them cities in the suburbs, there's no way you could I I don't believe even being a national would you be able to get away with doing what they don't want you to do and what your neighbors believe you're not allowed to do. You know? You gotta be out in the county to be able to exercise your rights.
[03:54:29] Unknown:
Yeah. When I I showed the paperwork to the county that I wanna file, she made a point to telling me that, to not just put, my county name, but the an unincorporated
[03:54:45] Unknown:
part of the county. It's an unincorporated part. She made a big point of that. So are you are you ready to share that with us, or have you file recorded that yet?
[03:54:58] Unknown:
I'm still refining it a little bit and I'm adding that declaration of independence. Okay. So
[03:55:05] Unknown:
I'm gonna be filing Have you put your affidavit to the Department of State yet?
[03:55:10] Unknown:
Pardon?
[03:55:11] Unknown:
Have you sent your affidavit to the Department of State yet? Yeah. I did that in 02/2019.
[03:55:16] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's gonna be one of the attachments to my quick claim.
[03:55:21] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:55:22] Unknown:
So it'll be that'll be filed at the county, My covenant and conditions of my land patent and the lodium will be filed with it as a separate one and then that declaration of independence. So I'm attaching three documents to get them filed on a quitclaim because they accept that, and they don't have any place to put those other documents. So they're telling me to attach whatever I want to to the quitclaim. So that's what I'm doing.
[03:55:55] Unknown:
Sounds good.
[03:55:56] Unknown:
My my title guy warned me. He says they only got 12 pigeonholes in this in this county to stick things, so it's gotta be something that they understand or they if they don't have a pigeonhole for it, they won't file it. I was when I was down there, I told them the story about Daryl Wayne. When he went down to file his affidavit in his county in Alabama, he sat down with the clerk, and they were having a little conversation. He pushed the document across to her. And, after he talked for quite a while, he said, why aren't you gonna read it? And, she says, it's none of my business.
I told that story down at at my county, clerk's office, and they had a they had a little laugh with me. In other words, we're gonna file anything you give us. We're not even gonna look at it. Right? We're here. It it it it'll probably be scrutinized and then given to a a group of attorneys to look at it. Right? So if it gets filed, I figure it's, God's business, not mine because I probably don't stand, much of a chance without that The way I look at it, it's gonna be divine recording, if it's recorded at all.
[03:57:17] Unknown:
I wonder how many documents have been recorded by the county into the trash can.
[03:57:25] Unknown:
Well, you know, if they say they're gonna do it and they stamp that document, it's a done deal. And it it does have a lot of, Christian reference in it. So I'm thinking that if there's Christians reading it and that the attorneys maybe are Christian, that it probably would stand. We'll see. You know? I love my documents regardless of whether they record them or not. They'll be in my possession, and, I'll still probably run some stuff in the paper, and then I'll do my notices. But I'd like to do my notices if they could get if they're recorded in the county level and I can state that in my notices, that's all the much more better for me, right, all the way around.
So try that first. See what happens. And even my, my friend who worked in the title company, she told me she said, you know, there's there's El Dorado County that I'm in, and just to the south of us is Amador. She's worked in both counties as a title officers. And she says, El Dorado believes they're very special. She says, recording in Amador County is so much more straightforward and easier to do than it is in in El Dorado. So it's a even in the state, it's a county and a county thing. And then I've read a lot of stuff about law in this, state. And supposedly from the beginning, the states gave the counties a lot of autonomy and a lot of power, which is probably not bad, but, you know, but then, El Dorado County both butts right up in the on the western edge, I got up against Sacramento County, and that, of course, is the county that is the state capital, and it's the agenda 21 and agenda 30, bastion of lawmaking.
So I think the closer you are to that Sacramento, the more, the more bleed over you have about all this stuff that's wrong, unconstitutional, etcetera. They they can call it the, the agenda 2,030 county. So very progressive about all of this crap. Like, for instance, I think the city of Sacramento is, is already got the law on the books. It's got a time frame when you just can't have a gas appliance in your house.
[04:00:07] Unknown:
Crap like that. Did Paul take the channel down? Did Paul take the channel down? He must have.
[04:00:15] Unknown:
Why would why would it matter?
[04:00:18] Unknown:
Oh, I, I remember, seemed like earlier, he said something about he was gonna take the channel down in about ten minutes. So I don't know if he, I never heard the recording of taking the channel down. So I was just kinda curious. And the and the reason why is because, if you hadn't taken the channel down, then, these late conversations that we're having, you can go back and listen to them. But if he takes the channel down, I don't think he can. I yield.
[04:00:56] Unknown:
Dave, are you still here? I just looked up Paul Preston. It said he passed away 11/04/2023. I didn't have a clue. I had looked that up earlier, and I couldn't find anything posted, but I found it today. Complications of cancer treatment is what it said.
[04:01:18] Unknown:
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[04:02:27] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Greetings
Discussion on Magnesium Batteries
Technical Issues and Audio Setup
Trust Classes and Jurisdiction
Tribute to Deanna Spingola
Discussion on Zionism and National Status
Introduction of New Student Austin
Explanation of Citizenship and Jurisdiction
Bankruptcy and the Fourteenth Amendment
Discussion on Trusts and Property Rights
Listener Interaction and Questions
Historical Context and Legal Discussions
Reflections on Past Radio Shows
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
