In this engaging episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates through a myriad of topics, from the intricacies of the IRS processes to the significance of understanding trust law. The conversation delves into the importance of knowing the legal distinctions between common law and the law of the city, emphasizing the empowerment that comes with understanding one's legal status and rights. Roger shares personal anecdotes and insights, highlighting the necessity of being informed about legal processes to protect oneself from potential overreach by authorities.
Listeners are treated to a lively discussion on the contentious topic of the all caps name, a subject that sparks debate among participants. The episode also features a heartfelt welcome to new listener Christian, who expresses gratitude for the clarity provided by the show. Throughout the episode, the importance of being well-informed and cautious in legal matters is underscored, with Roger and his guests offering valuable advice and sharing resources for further learning. The show concludes with a reminder of the power of knowledge in reclaiming one's rights and freedoms.
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They're chomping at the bit to communicate today. I can tell. I thought you'd chase the world. Yep. When they're when they're talking when they're talking over the intro, there's a there's conversation to be had, so stay tuned. Here we go. Oops. Here we go on the you can already tell it's Saturday. Here we go on the Saturday edition near the Radio Ranch, and it, Roger Sales, your host, and then the date stamp is June 21. So there we go. I think we've got a very, very light compliment. We probably don't have to test mister Beaner too bad today. Is that correct, Paul?
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Yeah. We have a very light compliment today, but it's basically been the compliment we've had all week. Yeah. We're we're just, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Euro folk and Eurofork, Eurofork and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. And also the link to free conference call is on that website as well as well as a host of other things. Fun stuff. Yeah? Yeah. People are just talking to just chopping at the bit to get talking. They're talking over intros and everything else. Holy smoke. There was there was some conversation going on. I got right in under the wire this morning. It is Saturday morning. I did sleep in just a bit,
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much to my detriment on the timing issue, but I did sneak in early enough to hear some conversation between Chris and and Mark about something they were getting posted. What was that, if you don't mind catching all of us up here, boys?
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Sure. Sure, Chris. And I blame it all on Chris for the Okay. You know, talking over the intro this morning. Okay. Alright. He's the one who instigated it I see. Suspectingly.
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Well, come on.
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But Chris was telling us about a video he just seen called, some to sell us on war and Iran, Trump no. That's not it. Sorry. Sorry. The real reasons for The US Israeli war on Iran explained. Now there's a a shortened version, I thought, that was twenty two minutes. And I'm sorry. That's to sell us war on Iran. That's the one I accidentally copied, I think. Yep. But, anyway, the that particular video that Chris is talking about, and Lisa confirmed, it's, one hour and six minutes.
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Okay. And who are Chris, who are the people on the video talking about this?
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It's, a lot of excerpts from Netanyahu, from Trump, and from many other people in the political scene of the complete tape takeover that they have planned and that they're now beginning to execute.
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Well, you know, it's funny. It's
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detail.
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Tom Zeesch. Detail. Okay. Somebody dropped me that. I'd appreciate it. It's a topic, obviously. We're gonna talk about it today too a bit. I was just watching, judge Napolitano and, John Mearsheimer, a, my on the other side critic of Israel. He Mearsheimer, and he had a partner that wrote a paper that got the amen corner real upset years ago. And, so it's very interesting. I would like to see that and keep up with it there. Folks, we are seeing Israel lose. They've lost they lost against Hezbollah in Lebanon a numb about eight years ago or something like that. They had a little skirmish.
And Lebanon, with their hills of Lebanon, has been evidently building underground, silos for all these missiles. The ballistic missiles that Iran is whipping on them right now. Well, they've been supplying Hezbollah over in, Lebanon just north of Israel with that too. And I've been kinda surprised that in the midst of all of this exchange between Israel and Iran, that Hezbollah hasn't come out and started giving them, you know, a little, a little flanking maneuver with a bunch of missiles coming down from the north. I guess they're holding off because with Syria toppled now, they probably cannot get resupplied, especially in the current situation. So they may be just holding off, but amazingly and I watched a little bit with us. Tom, are you with us this morning?
Tom d? Tom sent me an email, and it was a former English ambassador. And he was in Lebanon, and he was overlooking and and and going over the new embassy we're building in Lebanon. It's the second largest embassy in the world behind the Iraqi one, and they've got 5,000 employees. I mean, the guys going, look, and the the these don't happen to embassies. They only need about 500 for everything, and they've got pictures of the construction. And going over all the numbers, I didn't watch the whole thing, but it was stunning to me. Why why are they doing that in Lebanon? K? So, anyway, yep.
Israel is losing. Hallelujah. And, the more pressure than any of us can put on Trump, whether it's if you wanna do that and go that far, either calling the White House or sending, whatever. But no. Just no. No. No. No. Don't go. No. Don't go. And, Israel has put themselves out on a limb, it appears, big time. So we'll see how it develops. Very interesting situation, but, they're losing as it stands right now. And, that is is music to my ears. Boy, I hate you. If you're listening, you bastards, I hate you son bitches. And boy, are you getting your comeuppance for a change. So hallelujah.
So that, we certainly discussed that today. Mark's with us, which is a pleasure, always. And, so does anybody have anything topical, to bring up and discuss today? Any kind of legal stuff? We got a couple of new listeners. I don't know that they're with us today, newer that have contacted me, Norma out in California. Norma, so shout out to you if if, you're listening. She's a naturalized American. I don't know from what country. But, anyway, she's wanting to go through the process and tickled to death to find us and all that kind of stuff. So welcome. We got Christian who just showed up this week and who seems to be, pretty, pretty enthusiastic about what we do here and the things we cover. So welcome to him, and there may be some other new ones out there.
It's the you know, I don't know if it's these war times and stuff that draw people to us or whatever. But, anyway, however you found us and and and, whatever tickled tickled, the your insides to resonate with this message. We're very grateful, and always remember this is the platform where you get your questions answered. And we'd love to meet you too. The group of the family here likes to to meet the new folks and say hi. Is that somebody wanting to say hi right there? No. I didn't hear anything. Oh, I thought I heard something. Well, I'm getting old, so bear with me. Oh,
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no. You're getting older. Yeah. Getting old kind of getting older kind of kinda makes it sound like it's it's gonna take a while.
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Well, I hope it will. I don't wanna check out just yet. You know? Yes, Mark.
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As my grandfather used to say, getting old ain't for sissies.
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Ain't for sissies. That's right. It ain't everything is cracked up to be too. Is that Bruce? I'm here and there. I wanna talk to Bruce. Bruce, are you there? Yes. I do. Yes, sir. I gotcha. Well, guess what, man? I saw last night on, Mark shot me, shot me message, check out Alex today. Well, I I listen to Alex every day. So, anyway, one of the people he had on did you catch this, on that show yesterday with this guest, this guy that's running against sugar britches? Do you know about this, Bruce? No. Guy from Greenville, is gonna run against sugar britches. His name Mark Lynch. I wanna say Mark Lynch. Oh, shoot him.
He's Mark Lynch. Is that right? He's, well, he ain't a spring chicken. He's probably up there in his sixties. I would imagine late fifties. Got two Mhmm. Daughters. He's from Greenville. He's got some sort of a successful business up there. Very, very Christian oriented guy, and they're already showing him, leading the polls already, even though there are, few people in the state know about him yet. So you may wanna go over and check out the the third, third third or fourth fourth hour of Alex yesterday. And he does about thirty, forty minutes with him and, good guy. Good guy. So, that's good.
No. I don't think he is.
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No. Not an attorney.
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Wonderful. Yeah. That's the right direction. Yeah. Well, go listen to what he's gotta say. You know? He's it sounds like a good replacement. And, boy, they read some damning letters that his campaign has found with, Podesta talking about that Lindsey Graham will be the Republican on our side and all this kind of stuff. You really need to listen to that whole segment. I think it'll perk you up a little bit. Okay. Yep. Well, I'll Well, I call I just wanna say, I was just gonna do this. Boo. Everybody wake up and get in here. Alright. I'm gonna wake up the masses.
Okay. Alright. Well, amen. You know, the the the ones that are interested will get up and and join us. This program originally, of course, we started Saturdays during the Biden administration when things were when they were driving people to us. You know? And, the Saturday show was added because for people at work during the week and couldn't, get on here and ask questions or communicate should they want to. And we had an example of that a couple weeks ago with Tom from California. I wish he'd come back and join us. That was a nice show a couple weeks ago, and there was a couple of things I figured out after the program. I would like to have told him to talk to his attorney friend.
But, maybe he'll show up again here sometime. That's for you folks. And if you don't show up or you don't wanna communicate with us, then we'll we'll we'll just go off and have our own conversation. That's what we'll do. There's always stuff to talk about, but we'd rather talk about than the the primary things that we do here, which is trying to get your little honky ass free. That may not be may be some that aren't honkies. Okay? But if you'd like to get out from under Jew slavery, in which you've been in your whole life and you've agreed to every time they ask you, if you'd like to get out from Jew slavery, these damn monsters, throughout history, we can help you. Okay.
So anyway, the open invitation was honk honk, somebody's honk honk and come on through. You said you just said honkies. Yeah. Honkies. Yeah. Well, that's what it's the you know, it's these white supremacists, man. We wanna get out from under the damn, Jew slavery yoke. You know?
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I don't think you can call a honkie a white supremacist if you know the origins of being called a honkie.
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Well, I must be missing something. You wanna, you wanna expand it for me?
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Well, the the gentleman who who were dating the black women would pull up outside and give a honk for them to come down. They wouldn't get out of the car. They were in a black neighborhood and they were scared. Yeah. And they would just do the honk, honk, honk. And, and, the guys in the neighborhood started calling them, you know, white honkies.
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Well, that is the, you know, I'm almost at the ripe age of 77 and I've never heard that before. So good for you, Mark. Wow. Learn even an old dog can learn a new trick. You didn't who who was that?
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I I heard that from, a guy who used to party with Timothy Leary. Worked with him, and he's from California. Uh-huh. And, he worked at Seagate. He was a California transplant, hysterical, funny guy. I can't really quite call him a hippie. Yeah. He had short hair but he was more like almost like a little combat rock guy. He liked the Clash and some of those groups. But he was big into music, I'd you know, and I was too. And I I learned a lot from him as just, just an interesting gentleman.
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You remember Timothy Leary's gentleman loosely. Right. You you remember Timothy Leary's famous statement? He said when that joy when that jail door slams, you get an you get an instant education.
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That's I bet so. Yeah.
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So, well, where can we go this morning? Has anybody got any specific direction you'd like us to pound on or answer or just say hi?
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Come on, you nationals. Step up.
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Come on. Especially you That's a national question. Yeah. Come on. This Saturday show is for the people that can't join us during the week. And I and, it's hard for me to believe that people won't avail themselves of this opportunity to communicate with us. So please, if you're out there and you you want to be a national, you got questions, you you just wanna make sure we're for real? Come on.
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I have one for you. You do? Hey, Chris. As as nationals as nationals, I'm working on this right now as a matter of fact, silently in the background. We need to learn how to use our status in the law to, demolish or get rid of any lawsuits that someone may use to throw at us.
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Well, that'd be good. What if you're what if you what if you deserve the lawsuit?
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They have no
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jurisdiction. Yeah. They do. Well, if you, if you,
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if they're damaged, I'm, yeah. Roger. Go ahead. Go ahead. Roger. Chris is being awfully vague. So who is bringing the lawsuit against you determines whether they ultimately have jurisdiction. So who are you referring to as bringing the lawsuit?
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Well, any any, frivolous lawsuit or any lawsuit where somebody sues somebody, because they make some claim that they're owed something based upon some theory of law that's, and and they're attacking you in your upper case in an upper case persona.
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Well, Chris, could I say we've been on the air for fourteen years at this point, and that has never happened. So it's a long reach on a hypothetical. I I it's pretty evident that once we change status, these people understand it because they don't wanna come after you. And what I think is going on here, and one of the reasons that will keep them obeyed is because they don't want they're scared as hell of this information, and they do not want or would they ever put it in a spotlight where other people could find out about it? I think that's one of our best, adversaries. I mean, our best, you know, aspects here.
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So Let me I'd like to address that on several levels. First off, anybody can sue anybody for any reason at any time. However, whether that lawsuit sticks or not, deter you know, it depends on several things. Now if you're talking about where maybe you ran over somebody's mailbox and you damaged their property, they have a right to come into court and file a complaint against you. Okay? And it doesn't matter whether they spell your name in all capital letters or not it has nothing to do with the way your name is spelled. You are the individual who caused the damage.
And and if the court has subject matter jurisdiction, in other words they hear that type of case for instance, some courts can't hear any any cases where the the judgment that's being sought is over $10,000 Okay? So, a family court can't hear an auto accident, right? If it's a family court judge, their jurisdiction is over family matters and if you bring in an automobile accident, they can't even hear it. So it really depends on, you know, you've got several, I shouldn't say several, there's three primary legs of jurisdiction. And so in that instance yes, it doesn't really matter how you spell your name. I say because I go by mark all caps because your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction.
It just doesn't do it. It's what you answer to.
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You know? What what the biggest jurisdiction is what you consent to.
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That's right. Not necessarily. Not necessarily. No. No. No, Chris. No. I didn't have a contract when I accidentally ran over my neighbor's mailbox. And if I don't pay him, are you telling me that
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That's actual visible, measurable damage. I'm not talking about that kind of situation. I'm talking about where people come up with some theory of law where they want to sue you, and there is no physical damage.
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Okay.
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That would be Again, your your name has your name in all capital letters has nothing to do with that. Well, you I tell you Nothing. I I
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I know, man. I know. It's Patriot Mythology. I hate to tell you this, but it's Patriot Mythology. Here here, Chris, this is what I came up with the other day. What if you took your affidavit and you said, I, Chris, from California, and you put Chris from California in all cap letters, would they accept that affidavit or not?
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I don't know.
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I would.
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I I I wouldn't I wouldn't test them on that. I wouldn't do that.
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Okay. Tell tell us what kind of proof you have of this all cap letter stuff. You've been in this rodeo a while. It's not it's not it's not the capital letters thing. Well, that's what you said. Main thing.
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I did say that as one part of it, but the real part of it is whether or not a corporation can take jurisdiction over a living, breathing man.
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No. Well, it only depends if you got a contract with them.
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That's what I said. That's just In a roundabout
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vague way, we're finally getting there after playing 20 questions. You know, you're being very vague in the very beginning. That's why I'm asking. You gotta be more specific. So, again, let's talk about a corporation in general and I know you you probably believe that The United States is a corporation And that may be true if they sure seem to function kind of in that way. It does come down to not only contracts, but also jurisdiction of whether you're a US citizen or not. So I would and that's not let me back up and say it this way. You have to look at how do they treat non resident aliens because if I'm a non resident alien in respect to the United States government and I'm out here shipping products that I make in Oklahoma and I ship them to California, I'm involved in interstate commerce, I might be subject to federal laws.
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Maybe. I'd have to research it. Yeah. I I think that's questionable. I think that not everything that goes across state lines is necessarily interstate commerce.
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Well, it depends. It depends on who's who's responsible for the shipping. Now here's a little tip. If you're involved in that type of situation, a famous case of that right now is Amos Miller, the Amish farmer. Correct. He's shipping products out of Pennsylvania to other members. And the state of Pennsylvania said they couldn't stop him from doing that, but they could prohibit him from, or I shouldn't say prohibit temporarily prohibit him from selling inside Pennsylvania but they had no jurisdiction to stop him from transferring product into another state. Okay?
So one way around that if you're trying to avoid interstate commerce is that the the buyer is responsible for the shipping from your place to theirs and not the other way. So you're not the responsible party who's shipping the item. You're just selling it wherever you're located and the seller is responsible for transferring it to their location which if it's in another state then it's all on them. Now me as a seller I'm not involved in interstate commerce. The buyer is the one who orchestrated the transfer of that property from my state to their state.
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Well, it's it's actually simpler than that. And I've, I had a company called EasyMover. I moved people all over America. Cool. And I moved for the military also. No DOT number, no commercial license, nothing. And I never had a problem. And there's a reason why. Because the way it was set up, whenever I was transferring anything, I was transporting my own load Yeah. Until I got to the end where I was gonna drop it, then it changed to their load.
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Yeah. Because then it's private property that you're transporting. That's right. Yes. Yeah. I and I know truckers who've done that successfully, actually, very, very successfully for many years.
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And what's interesting about
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hauling They had all the documentation to show that they were what they were carrying was private property. Exactly. Yes. Now, Chris, do you think that if they stopped you, or forced you to into the scales and you were I'm just saying if they did
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Yeah. They did.
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Okay. If you were they did. Okay.
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Hold on. I'm giving you a scenario, Chris. Okay. So so if they pulled you into the scales, even though you're you're private and your truck was overloaded, in other words, you exceeded the weight limit, do you think that they should have the right to give you a ticket?
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I've not I know I was never overloaded.
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Well, I'm just asking you a scenario. They did weigh me. We're we're playing hypothetical for hypothetical.
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That, if if the truck is overloaded, that's that's a problem. That's not responsible. I understand. That's why I'm asking. And under the criminal law, you know, you have to be responsible.
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Right. So so would your status as a national have anything to do with driving an overloaded truck on the road with the public, the general public at large?
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I wouldn't do that.
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Well, I know you wouldn't. But if you were a national and you accidentally overloaded a truck and got stopped and they discovered that you're overloaded, wouldn't you expect them to have the right to issue you a ticket?
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That would never happen.
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Okay. Well, thank you. You're just avoiding the question.
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Chris, Preston,
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if I Mark? If I sin if I sin, I deserve to be judged.
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Okay.
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It's as simple as
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that. Hey, Mark. Well, is there any law on private property? There's no weight limits on the road since there's only for commercial. Right? Right?
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The weight limits. Well, the gross weight limit is right in the door of the truck. Okay. Well, I'm not that's not the question I'm answering,
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Chris. I'm Paul, you were a truck driver. Do, do common people have weight limit restrictions?
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The weight limit is assigned to the vehicle and its maximum safe load carrying capacity and the strain that that vehicle would exert on a public roadway. So they certainly do have the ability to write a ticket for a person, whoever they are, for endangering the public at large and stressing the road they're on. You can't take a 10 ton truck over a five ton bridge, let it collapse, and then walk away from it scot free. You cannot do that. Okay. Well, I just didn't know. It's a honest question. I didn't know. Okay?
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Now Hold on. Let's keep it was go ahead. Hold on, Roger. Keep in mind
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keep in mind if they're driving a big truck like that, they also have a CDL even if they're hauling private property. I yield. Okay.
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Yeah. I didn't.
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I didn't have to have a driver's license. They have to have a CDL to pull haul private property, Mark. That's new to me too.
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And a semi truck?
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Oh, I didn't drive a semi. It was a That's a different scenario then. Yeah. It's a moving truck.
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It's a three Okay. Like a box like a big box truck. Like a U Haul box truck. Exactly. Yes. Gotcha. Gotcha. Exactly.
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It was a beacon's truck. It was a beacon truck that I bought from beacons.
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Alright. Cool. That's a little different scenario.
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So does a person have in a U Haul, they rent a U Haul, and and do they have to stop at the scales?
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No. No.
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Okay. So Alright. That's interesting. Mirka, you were trying to say something?
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Me, Roger. I was just gonna ask well, you guys went on a little bit. So I was just gonna say when it's a private carrier and you're carrying your personal property, they have no say on what you're doing. As long in of course, the national needs to, travel responsibly and honorably. But I wanted to hear what Chris was gonna share because I I think he was were, he has, like, a story or something to tell us about his thoughts on what he's doing on this lawsuit.
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And it would be good to hear. I'll tell you yeah. I'll tell you something that I've done. I've done it for many years. Chris, talk right in your microphone, Chris. Talk right in your microphone. You're you're always really faint. Now?
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Well, a little bit better, but still faint. Go ahead. It's early in the morning. I'm barely awake. What do you want? Okay. Okay. Sorry.
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Well, are you on speaker phone or a headset or what? Okay.
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Move that speaker a little closer to you. Okay. How's that? Is that better? Better. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Have you heard of the refuse for cause without dishonor?
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Yes.
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Yeah. It's worked every time for me.
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Refuse for cause.
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Without dishonor? I haven't heard,
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yeah, I haven't heard it, but can you explain it? Two two UCC codes Okay.
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Got it. That you put on it you put it diagonally across whatever it is you received or whatever it is they give you, traffic citation, anything, immediately, you send it back by registered mail only. No. No. Not certified mail. Yeah. It won't work. Registered mail. And they might try to send it back to you a second time. You send it right back to them immediately again, and it'll just disappear.
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Awesome. But, I mean, you said that there was gonna be a lawsuit or something. What are you gonna take them to court or something for that?
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No. I don't I avoid the court like a plague. Okay. So you're doing registered mail? I do everything administratively. Yeah. I'm very successful with administrative law procedures with countermeasures administrative countermeasures. And you require things of them that they can't give you and they go away.
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Well, yeah. You're you're using your private power, your the power of paper and your notices or whatever it is that you're sending them affidavits.
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Notices. Yes. Always notices. Public notices. Yeah. Verified jurisdictional challenge, and a list of questions that they can't answer.
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Right.
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Having having to do with, their their authority, having to do with their connections to their own commercial enterprise that they are corporation and have a Dun and Bradstreet number. And, also the, so they have a conflict of interest and also their oath of office.
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Awesome. Yeah.
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That's what you do. They go right for their neck. They never come back.
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You handle it in the private, and
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they just don't know what to do with that. As as a Exactly. Living breathing man upon the land, not as one of their slaves. Right. Right. Exactly.
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Right. Yeah. I agree with
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you. Good job. It's worked every time. I do That's awesome. Too. It works every time.
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Well, that's great. If you're having repeatable success, not only for yourself but for other people, then I'd say you're on the right track. Over a thirty year period, by the way. Oh, cool. Because a lot of people that's hit or miss. You know? But, again, if you're having repeatable success with every person that you're assisting with what you're, refused say that again. Refuse for cause without Refuse for cause. For cause. Thank you. Yeah. Refuse for cause with what was it? Objection? Without dishonor. Without dishonor. My mistake. I'm sorry. I didn't write that down. But, you know, if if, again, if you're having repeatable success, not only for yourself, but also with other people, then, you know, hey. I think you are definitely onto something big.
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Well, I'm not I'm not the sole, originator of this. Bob Schafer had a lot to do with it. Yeah. Even, Richard McDonald had a lot to do with it. Yeah. But I went I went beyond where they both were and added things that I learned from a couple of other very sharp people as
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well. Because you have to stay on the right side of the fence all the time. Right. Well Thank you. Again, again, Chris, in fourteen years, we've never had one of those situations come up to my knowledge around here. And, and just probably status has a lot to do with the that procedure too, I would imagine.
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Yes. It does. You declare the status right up front. Even though I didn't have paperwork in and so forth, is the Supreme Court said you are who you say you are. So that's what we've been saying. No. No. You get no. The
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the the only way that you can do it is have an affidavit on file with the with the, secretary of state. That that's that appellate level. Unless the I r unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, the IRS can move on to assessment and collection. There's only one way to prove it. You can't do it at the district court level. You can't do it in paperwork. You can claim it. It's just not legitimate. Well, that goes back to 1835 Supreme Court case, Chris.
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. Yep. Didn't matter what the passport is. It's an ex parte document. The only thing that matters, especially if it's a judicial question, is what paperwork is in possession of the secretary. That's almost 200 years old.
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Yeah. I agree with you. No. I didn't always know that, but I agree with you at this point.
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Well, it's just agreeing with the facts. I mean, that's I never found that case. Some wonderful listener sent it to me. Thank you very much, whoever you are. Know about it. Well, it's on the website. On your site? Yes. Good. Yeah. I've got Yep. I wanna go take a look. Well, it's the one that nobody can ever pronounce. Ubute Ubuteetu v d r c, d hyphen a r c y.
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Roger, you're you're you're the affidavit having it on file with secretary of state, of DC makes you the authority, and we're the private individual now. And what Chris just shared is an example of what we can do living in the private
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and, protecting themselves and defending themselves. All that stuff he went out is for the guy that's still a slave.
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They're not in the private yet. They they're trying to impose their federal regulations on a private individual, and that's just not gonna work. When you're living responsibly and honorably, it should
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you should be able to handle it that way. As I said, we've been teaching people this stuff for fourteen years, and not one instance of that's ever come up. So
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that's what it is. Great example. K? So, Thanks, Chris.
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Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Chris. Anybody got anything to add to that discussion?
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You could try it on your next traffic ticket, but you have to be very prompt.
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Okay.
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Yep. I agree.
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Well, of course, what we do is always encourage people to have all their, you know, maintain your vehicle, make sure your lights aren't out or any of that other crap that they can pull you over for and drive under the speed limit. You'll probably never have any of these problems. K? And for the a lot of the people that do go through this process, man, they don't wanna go to court, you know? And we try our best we can to keep you out of there. Everybody always wants to use court as an example, but we honestly try and keep you out of there. And very few of our people ever have to get in there. And where where does it always come from?
Traffic. So anybody else got something they want to, talk about today? Yeah. Hey. There's old Samuel. Hey, man. How you doing?
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Hi. Good. What Christmas? I just wanted to say something about the name. If you if if you go to Stamper's book, Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, at the end of the book, he has a summary. It's five pages long. Right. Three pages are dedicated to just the name and why it's important. And, of course, we've got the example of Randy Lee disputing it with the IRS in court and district court along with his you know, it's a major, major thing, but along with everything else. And the judge doesn't just dismiss the case. He says next case. That's because there wasn't a case, and Randy proved it because he wasn't in their jurisdiction, because he wasn't claiming the name, he wasn't claiming that he worked for any of their entities, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Okay. Because, Samuel, let me ask you the question I asked Chris a minute ago. If you submitted an affidavit and his same were from California in all cap letters, would they accept that or would they send it back?
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I would never do it.
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Well, that's not the question. I'm trying to smoke something else out here, which is this all cap letters crap. If you send an affidavit in saying you were a national and you put your name in all caps, would they accept it? Isn't that the question? Isn't that where the rubber meets the isn't that where the rubber meets the road? When I apply
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when I apply for my passport, I'm gonna make it a point of contention that they spell my name in a Christian manner. Okay. And I'll tell them how to spell it. Alright. Now that's in the record. Now if that changes the numbers on that passport, we might know something.
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May I? Yes. If you send in an affidavit in your whole camp's name, the secretary of state, is not going to send you a letter back saying, sorry. You used all capitals. That is a United States citizen, and you can't do that. But they're never gonna do that. No. They're They're never gonna challenge the fact that you you sent in an affidavit in all capital letters.
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Yeah. I'm telling you, you cannot get that out of people's minds. Once it's in there, you can't get it out.
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Come on, folks. Let's be real about this. Show me the law. Show me a case, an opinion from a higher level court that specifically says that your name in all capital letters is some type of corporate entity.
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Find one on a national. I'll give I'll give you Find one on a national. I'll give you something from a higher court. Can I wait a minute, please?
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Can you let well, if you'll waive your order, you can. Let let let Chris Okay. Fill in the debts.
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What higher court, Chris? If you walk through a cemetery if you walk through a cemetery and look at the tombstones, you have your answer.
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Okay. Alright. Gary. Alright. Thanks, Chris. Did did you find a court case that's got that in it, by the way? Who was the other person trying to say something? That was Gary. Well, you folks, I'm telling you. You get this stuff in people's minds, and I've told you, it you can't get it out of there with 20 with a team of 20 mule, team borax pulling on it. Gary, what's your, observation here?
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If you study the law of agency, you'll find out that you're acting as the agent for the all caps name. Simplest way to prove that is look on your checking account at the microprint underneath the signature line. You are the agent and you accept agency responsibility for that all cap name. Your name, your Christian name, and the all cap name are two separate entities. However, when you sign to something that's got an all caps name, you're acting as the agent for that individual, that entity.
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That's all I got. How do you like my idea, Gary, of sending in an affidavit with your name in all caps and see if they reject it or accept it? How about that?
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They're gonna accept it. It's your choice. You're still acting in the the status of an agent, whether you send it in in all caps, lower caps, lower initial. It doesn't matter. You're acting for as an agent for that entity. Okay. Period. I wanna tell you.
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And this is Oh. If I may, Roger,
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this is from Stanford. He said under legal name. And and when he's talking legal, he's talking common law. Under common law consists of one Christian name and one surname, and the insertion omission or mistake in the middle name
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or an initial
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is immaterial. The legal name of the individual consists of the given baptismal name usually assumed at birth and a surname deriving from the common name of the parents. Black's Law's Dictionary, page eight ninety six. So demanding a a common law Christian name puts you in law, not outside of it. When you have that all caps state, you're outside of the law. You you don't have the protections of even being what you were born, and they later change. And now Stanford's summary goes through and including what what Gary just said. That summary is only five pages. It's all you gotta read. And if you wanna take this in a court of law, a fair trial, there's so much evidence here that I can't see how you could refute any of it. A lot of it's from Black's Law. He's got two sites from Black's Law in here. I mean, I think you're tempting the whole system to be a national and then remain in their jurisdiction by using the all caps name. That's, I think, what the mistake is.
You're making a voluntary thing against what you're saying you're not.
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That's all. Thank you. It's contract.
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Hey, Roger?
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Yes. Danny. I don't think that's Danny. Right?
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Yeah. Another another thing, I think would be related to that is a friend of mine was telling me about some years ago, he's putting in for a new bank account, and he goes through the whole thing. And then at the signature line, they have the x at the start of the line. They scribbled the x out and signed it. And after a little while, the clerk came back and said, they wanted him to to do do it again. So he did, and he got the signature line. He scribbled out the x and signed it and turned it in and, came back and told him that if he kept doing that, they weren't gonna give him an account. So that's like he's the witness for the incompetent or the whatever it is, that's taken out the bank account like an officer for a corporation.
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Okay.
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Roger, do you remember when when, Joe Lustica went ahead and copyrighted the names that he wanted to use? Very smart. All of a sudden, the court totally changed its its opinion about Joe.
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Well, the first few times, they changed the the way they addressed him. They they changed the name on the paperwork, and then they just gave up because he just kept on trademarking every name they would use.
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Could I add something or
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kinda Yes. Who are you first? Yes. Who are you, first of all?
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George, I'd have.
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Oh, hey, George. Talk right in the phone, please.
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Yeah. I'm gonna take a so, Chris, I was curious if you had, any,
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dealing with your toast. In that.
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George, talk right in talk right in the microphone, please. You're still very polite.
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If if you had any dealings with mortgage service companies and, and using any kind of, any kind of, methods around that, you know, returning with with without dishonor. Are you?
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I I have I I've heard about that. I haven't tried that yet. I might have an opportunity here in the near future.
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Great. Thank you.
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Okay.
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We got our West Coast morning voices over here. Sorry.
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Yeah. Well, Chris is almost Chris is always kind of faint. You know? Go ahead, Chris. Go ahead.
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Well, you know, for years, I was with Capitol Records touring around The United States, and we I didn't go to bed till sunup.
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Yeah.
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So you know what that's all about. Yep.
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Sure do.
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So, But I like the show so much. I I like to make sure I get up. Okay.
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I doze off halfway through and wake back up again. Right. Well, I know it's a little tough on the left coasters out there, and, it'll get better here around November. I if in fact we have daylight savings time anymore, there was a rumor that Trump had executive ordered it out. So I don't know where we stand on the, time change now.
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Oh, that would just screw everything up. People are too used to it. That would that would do what, Paul? That would screw everything up. People are too used to complaining about it.
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Well, it's been a real pain in the butt for me, but, whatever. I'd just sleep an hour later. I That's because think it's a pain in the butt, but I think in the winter, it wouldn't get light until about 09:00 in the morning if we don't do it. And that would equally be quite weird.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, I live on the Equator. It's the same all the time. So, it's just that I have to shift my whole schedule because they don't change here. Right. So, anyway, well, what else can we, kick around this morning?
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Well, I've got something.
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Okay.
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Couple of days ago, I talked about, like, dissension between the ranks and things like that, and, we were in another room last night. We were talking about it. And, basically, what has happened is, throughout the course of the Radio Ranch history in the preshow and the aftershow discussions, there could be, personality conflicts. There could be people having bad days that cause riffs, that cause people to leave and, like, set up another room. And, basically, that didn't support the group. Well, then recently, there was a, misunderstanding, a a personality conflict, a clash that even caused a separation from one of the separated rooms.
And Good lord. I'm going, okay. No. We can't do this. You know? Like, the solution to people getting along is not just creating a million little sub places where people can kinda hide in their hide out, you know, you know
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Yeah. You off there, you're by yourself. Hell, I guess you don't have anybody to not get get along with. So here's the deal.
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I am I am giving an open invitation Okay. For everyone that has used any other rooms, because of the conflict, the clash, or whatever. I am inviting them back into the main room, and I'm talking effective 6AM to midnight. The and we will just take our lumps, and we'll figure it out as we go along. But the strength of the group and the message and being available for new people that could come and go and not find someone in the main room to answer a question, we can't do that. That that can't happen. And we have to learn how to be indivisible as a group because that's what the bad guys wanna do is divide us. And if we let them accomplish that, they win.
We don't They don't they don't
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even have to to make an effort. We can't get along with each other as a community. For hell, I've been dealing with it for thirty something years. Yeah. God said we're a stiff necked people. And, boy, I'm gonna tell you, if the patriots are his people, they're stiff necked.
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Yeah. Well, there is and the most recent separation, okay, the most recent division, left people that remained missing person, missing their input, missing their value. And, it it started we we started with a discussion, well, how do we bring this person back? Okay? How do we how do we make make allowances or or make a place for this person to come back to our group? And then we just decided, well, wait a minute. What the hell? Why fix segregation? Do away with it. So that is why the open invitation now stands for everybody to congregate in PPN Radio Ranch.
The main FCC room from 6AM to midnight. Come on down. Knock yourselves out. Let's figure out how to get along. And that was the only thing I had.
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Kinda run you from Saturday. To learn a little tolerance. Sorry, Roger.
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That's alright. That's alright. I still, you see, I keep going back to this all caps thing that people just keep beating on and beating on. Does if if I've got an affidavit on file and something and they and I got a document with all caps, does that override my affidavit? It
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it depends. Absolutely not.
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Well, no. It depends on it. If if that all caps name is on a contract and you signed it agreeing to the terms of that contract, well, hell yes. You're acting as the agent.
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Well, I'll bet if you went back and acted with them after that in your in in your other capacity, that would not never come up. That does not cause jurisdiction, and I just I'm amazed. I'm just amazed on that. Oh. My my experience is honestly over all these years, with all these things that I call and and and look at as patriot mythology, once that's in somebody's head, man, it's almost impossible to get it out of there. Well, here's the deal. Look at Brian Howard. Look at Brian Howard still thinking that the birth certificate causes everything.
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Okay. Alright. He's been for a long time. There's always a restricted signature by colon your name
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Oh, boy. Or,
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and then the all caps name. Oh. Go for it. I mean, that's that is that sets you up as as the agent, but not responsible for that name. Hey. Attorneys sign their documents by colon their name dot dot dot.
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Why? Why would they do that? Well, I've never seen that, Paul, ever. So Roger. Sherry. Just, so okay. Yeah. Well, let let's go see what Dave's got to offer here. Where's Sherry been? We've been here in a long time. Yeah. Dave. Your affidavit in all caps. What now? Start again.
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It's your affidavit in all caps.
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What about it? Was mine? Yeah. No. Why not? Well, because I just go on with my life the way I always have. I've never signed my name. All they're saying.
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Our name isn't in all caps. It never was. Our our parents didn't name us in all caps. Why would the government name us in all caps? They have to have a purpose for that. It's not just to trick us into thinking that, oh, let's send them down this little rabbit hole over here. You know? No. They have a absolute
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purpose for it. And and so does that does that give them jurisdiction?
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Only an alternative to answer that.
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Well, why not?
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Because I don't have all the answers. But I know I would not send my affidavit in all capital name
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because I've I've never signed my name in all capital letters. But but the example is through them to say, no. This is all capital. You can't be free. That's what I'm trying to get out of you people with this example. If you put your name in all caps and put it on affidavit, would they accept it or would they reject it?
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They would probably accept it.
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They have to. Because the minions the minions
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that work for the government, they are the government, and they do what what you know, they're they're not I don't believe that they're looking at that. Oh, hey. Here's all caps, you know, affidavit. I'm guaranteed. Handle this special.
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I just about guarantee you they're not.
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Right. They don't know their behinds from a hole in the ground. They just are working for a job, you know, for the money, and they think they're the government. Now some of them might like the guy who called that guy in New York and said, hey, you know, your your wife's, a US citizen, you know, whatever. Right? But the guy knew what he was talking about, so it it was already in the mail when they when he bought them. So I I do believe that that all capital name, they use it for a purpose. I don't know exactly what it is, but I know it's nefarious.
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Okay. Mirka, you got your way in. Is nefarious. You wanna weigh in, Mirka? I yeah. I'll just Chris.
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I was I was thinking, maybe me as an agent can send in the affidavit for my all caps name and make it a national.
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Is straw man quivering over in the corner? No. I He's about to ask I thought Mark, is he having orgasms or what? I thought that very thing, like, fifteen minutes ago. What if you filed an affidavit in the all caps name for the all caps name? Make it a natural with a private all caps name. Touche, Myrka. Oh, and by the way, the answer about Sherry, she's indisposed. She's fine. And that, attorney signing documents, by calling their name dot dot dot. She worked for attorneys as a legal secretary, and they always always sign their documents that way. She she testified to that, years ago.
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Okay. But I I wanna And think I can Brent if he signs his stuff that way next Friday?
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I asked him on a show. I gave him the specific example, and he said, yeah. That is the most correct way to sign.
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He said it. I I must thought I must not have been there because I didn't hear that. Do what, Lisa? I always thought it just meant they're always yelling at us because you know the all caps signifies you're yelling. Yes. Right. Correct. So so they're always just all these government and these corporations, they're always yelling at us. Yeah. I wonder if Janet signed her name in all caps.
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You know? Janet Yellen?
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Okay. Well, I I I oh, okay. Gotcha. Hopefully, she won't be hopefully, she won't be signing her name at all for very long.
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This this is Chris. I have a question.
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Alright, Chris. Come on.
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Okay. Someone mentioned about reading the last five pages of Stamper's book. Is that cracking the code?
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No. That wasn't Stamper. That was a bartender from Seattle. To the poisonous tree.
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True to the poisonous tree. Okay. Thank you.
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Could we adopt the all caps name?
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Do what? Adopt the all caps. I'm I'm sorry. Some of y'all have got really poor phone connections, and we just can't hear you, or I can't many times anyway. So that's why it's like, duh. Could could you ask the question again? I think it was George. Right?
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Yes. I was gonna say, could we adopt the all caps name as a ministry? It's a person. We're not supposed to be persons in the Bible,
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but we could adopt it and turn it into a ministry. Plate. Not not don't don't start with that Bill Richardson crap.
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As long as you don't have to send it to college.
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It says not to be persons in the Bible. Right, George? Is that Bill Richardson? Than adoption.
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That's different than adoption.
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I I don't I don't know about adoption. It says, just stay away from persons who are evil. That's what that guy quoted to me on the radio show from his book saying you don't wanna be a person. He doesn't have any idea what a legal person is. And if you're gonna say that, then I we need you and I need to go back, and let's go over that because you clearly don't understand it.
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He was talking about adopting the cap's name. Roman
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Roman adoption of the slave. It's a slave. It's all in caps. That's, everybody in Rome was all in caps when they're slave. My own father, Roman Catholic educated, always printed in all caps. It's, like, ingrained in people. It's cultural. It's like it's probably in the styles, man.
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Well, all I know is it doesn't have any effect on the secretary of state accepting that affidavit. To my knowledge, we've never had any example one way or the other of it. They've always accepted them. So, in my mind, there's no connection there. I know some of you just can't get that splinter out of your mind, but I don't know what to do about it. K? So you if that's the way you feel, you go on feel that way. That's fine. But does it have any effect on if my document if my passport has all cap letters on it and I've got the affidavit on file, that it doesn't override it.
The affidavit in the secretary's possession is what matters, period. It doesn't matter if if how the hell they do my name. So, anyway, if y'all wanna go along with that, great. My I I don't put much credence in it, personally.
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You wanted a spicy Saturday. Here we are.
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Boy, I guess. What about the gold French flag? Can we pull that up and discuss it too?
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Only if it's in all caps. Or only if it has an eagle on the top.
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Alright. Has to have an eagle. Yeah. This is a close look. Roger.
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Do what now? Heard of the book? Have any anybody ever heard of the book entitled The Law of Names?
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No. Randy Lee used it a lot. Somewhere I have a copy of it, and it goes into detail about some of these things. Alright. Well, why not somebody put it Paul, you're good at that. The law of making sure. Can you see if we can find a copy of that? Good morning, Julie. We'll look for it. Sketch was cursed. Alright, sketch. We buried you. Hold on, girls. Hold on. Sketch was there. Yes, sir. I don't know if,
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I don't know if this was
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done. I just wanted to say that, it's the relationship to the identity that I think is the problem because Christians have a Christian name, and they don't identify with the all caps name because it's not a Christian name. So it's identity. Like, just like the, the Christian identity feature that we had on our Pastor p p pastor Pete Peters is who we were talking about. Yeah. I just I think it's it's it has it's the relationship, of the identity. Now they do use identity to to, identify us in the passport. So I think there's there's that, the rub. I yield.
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I yield. Yes. Now there are two or three gals trying to say something. Let's go back to Julie. She'd been new, and she's hanging there. Julie.
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Morning. Hi. So I wanna say that there is definitely something regarding the all caps name, and I know we don't like to discuss this. But here's the We've been talking about it for an hour, so go ahead. I know. Well, you go to go look at you go look at your the the the woman this goes back to the birth certificate trust. The woman, the man born in The United States created an estate upon their birth. And so your you have an agency agreement between yourself, your living self, and the British crown, the Vatican, and the bar members.
And, your birth cert and and so an estate was the lifetime labor value of you in your all caps letter. So, a trust was created where your estate was placed in trust with the United States Attorney General operating as the alien property custodian pursuant to trading with the enemy act. Ever since, president Franklin d Roosevelt. So your all caps letters is represent representative of the estate and the trust. And, we are the grantor, the trustor, the beneficiary, the executor, of and the signatory for the all caps name, which is our estate and trust. So and the birth certificate is the representative certificate of said deposit, which connects to the American Depository Receipt System, which is all about our corporation being a bankrupt since day one.
And it all connects and you can go look at Title 31, Code of Federal Regulations three sixty three, which has, all of our legacy accounts where we bank. And and this all goes back to all of the SESTA KB trust accounts that we've been discussing in the SESTA case of '22, Roger. Sorry. I mean, this this stuff exists. This is real.
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Alright. What does it have to do with us filing an affidavit and get free?
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Tell me, please. I knew you were gonna ask me that. There well, I mean, when it comes to jurisdictions and stuff and you go into a court and, on your court papers and all that stuff that you get, your name is an all caps letter versus you as a living, breathing woman. It's there it's it's, again, like what Samuel was talking about here. In the Stanford's book, it discusses all this stuff in fruit from a poisonous tree. What does it have to do with jurisdiction? I think I don't know the answers like he says to everything, but I think it has something to do with jurisdiction
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depending on what the situation is. Oh, well, alright. What does it have to do with us filing an affidavit? That's what I care about because that's what I teach, and I don't care about one bit of that other shit you just went over. Not one.
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Okay. It has never affected you. Filing an affidavit. I don't think it has anything to do with that, but I think you when you put yourself in the as as a as a national Uh-huh. And So your and your look. Even Matt even Matt in California went to the courts and corrected his name from his all caps to lowercase. Look at what Joe left the pen when he's trademarking his name as Samuel brought up or somebody else did. This all caps name does have something to do with you being born, dead at sea. They took they they took your big performance bonds and big performance bonds in your name. They create securities out of that all caps name. They they they they attach ten ninety nine a's to your tax returns when you submit them and are creating securities in your name without your permission when they're not securities dealers and signing, stuff, creating identity fraud. We've discussed this on the show yesterday at the after show at great length. Okay. I'm glad I missed it.
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The after show is the place for it.
[01:08:36] Unknown:
Yep. I don't know. You have some group members that were all together on this stuff. Rogers, the weekend. That's that's alright with me. I I don't I just don't I don't see the connection,
[01:08:48] Unknown:
and I I don't recognize it. I don't wanna hear it. You start bringing all that crap on, there's somebody new here, you just lost them. I've tried tried for fifty years to make places as simple as possible so that it can be spread faster and new people can uptake it. You start throwing that crap you've been going over for the last five minutes, they're done.
[01:09:12] Unknown:
Well, I don't think any of us ever I don't think any of us ever recommended this when it came to new students, Roger. I'm just saying that, your, your all caps name doesn't have anything to do with you becoming a national. You're correct about that. But it still intertwines with all of this stuff that they've done unlawfully towards us where they, you know, we had to rebut a presumption, and they Okay. They just threw us through the fourteenth amendment without us
[01:09:44] Unknown:
Oh, somebody's trying to talk over. You can't talk over other people. That's right. Okay? If you hadn't learned that yet, learn it. Alright? Mark, is is straw man over in the corner flatlining or what?
[01:10:03] Unknown:
This is a new listener.
[01:10:04] Unknown:
Oh god. Please please disregard everything you're hearing.
[01:10:11] Unknown:
Yes. Roger, thank you for thank you for thank you for that because
[01:10:16] Unknown:
that was blowing me away. Yes. Alright. Point point point excuse me, new listener. Point made. Point made. Okay. Sir, what's your name? Where are you in the country? And how did you find us? Is that it's not Christian again, is it? Yeah. It is.
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Oh. Yes. Yes. It's Christian Christian Hansen.
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Hey, Christian.
[01:10:39] Unknown:
I joined the club, Julie. Roger.
[01:10:41] Unknown:
Join the club, Julie. Join the club, Julie.
[01:10:44] Unknown:
The Ferris shut up, bro.
[01:10:46] Unknown:
We've gotten rid of you. I mean, can't you go find another program? I'll be quiet. Thank you. Are you Christian? Are you? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Well, what you just said that was go thanks for stopping that discussion. Right?
[01:11:02] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Yes. God bless you.
[01:11:06] Unknown:
Thank you, sir. Was my was my, assessment right that people like that, it just you wanna just go away because it's so confusing and overwhelming?
[01:11:18] Unknown:
Yes. Yes.
[01:11:20] Unknown:
Yes. That was that was wonderful. That was Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Okay, Christian. Now if you wanna if you wanna test the waters here, if you I don't know if you filed an affidavit or not or yet, but when you do, put your name in all capital letters, and let's see if they refuse it.
[01:11:39] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Well
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because you're playing both sides of the fence there.
[01:11:46] Unknown:
I I would I would go either way you the way you said. I would stick with I would stick with the wisdom.
[01:11:55] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a contentious issue. There's a couple of those out there. This girlfriend, Flyads, is one of them. The birth certificate is another one. That was Tim Tim whatever his name was. He used to go around from city to city in the middle of Turner in the middle of the night. And, they said that's a b e r t h certificate because you're a a a ship sailing on the land. Please disregard all that crap. Please. I saw an I saw an interview I saw an interview with a guy named Billy out in California on Arizona who had bought that crap hook, line, and sinker. And a sheriff's department guy came up to his fence and talked to him at the gate about something, and he was starting to spout that crap. And he ended up getting shot and killed dead by that sheriff's department.
K? It's just, for for something that wrong and that much bullshit, this guy lost his life, and he had a family with young children. K? Wow. That's why I get so agitated at this. Does it have anything to do with what we're doing that's been proven over and over and over again for fourteen years fourteen and a half years now? It doesn't have anything to do with this. K? It may be interesting. You wanna go speculate on it. Okay. So if I've got because I don't correct it. So my passport with my name in all caps, the is it not is it not right? Am I not a national?
No.
[01:13:38] Unknown:
Man, I I'm a listener. I'm just I'm just learning what I can, bro.
[01:13:43] Unknown:
It doesn't make a damn bit of difference. And the reason is an 1835 case that came up a minute ago, the site's on the website, Ubudu two, as best I can say it, v d hyphen r c eighteen thirty five. It's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, which is the higher and better evidence and should be introduced in a court of law. That's what it says. Almost 200 years old. Before Wow. There was a second status. There wasn't a second status. That was before the civil war. K? So, anyway, it's contentious. It could be argued back and forth. There's, I just don't know. I know it doesn't have any bearing on what we do. Now you see, here's the thing. I had a chance to challenge this in Argentina, Samuel.
And it was because after the accident, when all my stuff, including my passport, was stolen by Americans, by the way, I had to get a new passport to apply for and open my Social Security account, which I needed to do because I was tired of selling gold. K? And so, but I did not have it's an interesting story. I did not have a original copy of my birth certificate. Now I'd only had this passport that got stolen in two years. So anything that was given to them, like the original copy of a birth certificate, etcetera, should have been on file.
But when I've ran into this problem of not being able to open Social Security my Social Security account because I didn't have a passport, and I couldn't get a passport because I didn't have a, original copy of my birth certificate, and they would not accept a JPEG or a picture. They had to have the original. And I told the girl, I said, you mean Obama doesn't have this is right when Obama stuff is going on. Obama doesn't have to have a a damn birth certificate, and I do? Yeah. That's right. And so, anyway Wow. I I yeah. Yeah. No kidding. And so, finally, I applied for it, and I got it. Now where I was, there wasn't a DHL store.
And the embassies all exclusively use DHL to and fro. They want you to use it too. So when I had to send all that stuff, I had to go a 150 miles up to Mendoza City and go poking around up there until I found the damn DHL sore. And, so I go up there and get it. And when they send it back, I I had to go up there to get it. And so, that's about a three hour bus ride each way. And so, I I get up there and I open it up, and it's got the stuff in all caps. Now there's a form where if they've made a mistake on your passport, you can do this form and send it back and request to change.
But I wanted to get that damn Social Security open, and I wasn't gonna even quibble over, argument with them if there would have been one or the extra time that it took to submit it from Argentina all the way up there to see if they'd take my all caps name and make it lower and upper case. So I had a chance to change that. And because of the situation, I I preferred to get my Social Security account open. K? So but, I I don't think it would have made any difference. And you can go back with your passport. If any of you wanna try this, you can take your passport and find out what form that is and send it back to them and say you want your name in lower and upper case. See if they do it.
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Okay. That sounds that sounds good.
[01:17:50] Unknown:
So, Christian, you got any questions or anything? Well, you're a new guy. We wanna hear from you. You're the reason we're here, really.
[01:17:59] Unknown:
So what can we help you with? Well, I have I have I have you know, y'all y'all kinda broke the ice yesterday when he was talking about trust, and I know that's your class coming up. I wanna get that I wanna get in into that class because I don't want I don't wanna lose I don't wanna lose anything that I have. And then, if there's a way, you know, and it was talking about, what a trust was not going to it has to be done a certain way by mister Winters. A certain way. We're we're talking about, you know, a load of your titles, I guess, or
[01:18:43] Unknown:
something that No. No. Not necessarily. Now let me make something clear for you. We got two trust people going on here. Mark, who's with us today, is with us from Oklahoma City. He's our paralegal, and he started doing trust classes couple of months ago. He's I think he's in a second class. And then, folks that found that that are a little more restricted in their finances, wanted to see if Brent would set up a class for them too at a little bit cheaper price. So we got two of these things going on. Okay?
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Yes, sir. Alright.
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That's what I wanna I wanna really interested in that. I know
[01:19:22] Unknown:
I have a real good friend that's probably gonna be in touch with y'all pretty soon. She has done everything she is. They've tried to take her land away from her. She's been fighting this land patent. Her land patent was her land patent was
[01:19:39] Unknown:
all the way back from uh-oh. You wanna say something about I was just gonna say, no. There's other people. Samuel's into that. A couple of people are into that. You're talking about a loyal title stuff. And, it's it's not something we really cover because it doesn't really pertain to everybody. There are certain people that pursue it. And, you say it sounds like what she's doing. Is that why they're trying to take her land away from her? They don't wanna recognize it or what?
[01:20:05] Unknown:
Yeah. They don't wanna recognize it. Okay. She's also, done her, her land now in trust, with gold and silver.
[01:20:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I don't know about any of that, but I know it's very difficult to get a loyal tile recognized. It's I know it can be done because I met a guy in Oregon who did it, and, there's a whole story we've got on that. But, it's exceedingly difficult, and you gotta have every I dotted and every t crossed Boom. And really know what you're doing. Okay? Who was, who was our guy that did that did a loyal title that had the heart attack a while back out there out West? Is he okay? Did he die? Does anybody know? I think it was Daniel Fish you're referring to? No. No. No. It was the the the Okay. Guy the guy that fell. Samuel, who's your guy out there for a loyal title?
Oh, Samuel. Ron Gibson. Thank you. Ron a guy named Ron Gibson was helping people, had been for a while. He I thought somebody said he had a heart attack a while back. I don't know of his disposition. But, he was probably about the best in the country at it. Here, let Samuel add his 2¢. Samuel?
[01:21:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Ron is particularly on land patents, but the allodial, claim is a different animal. That comes by inheritance.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Well, that was just two things I mentioned. Yeah. Okay. That you you straighten that up real quick. So, yeah, she'd been fighting with her land before her land was there before Texas was a
[01:21:58] Unknown:
Through and through and through inheritance, Christian?
[01:22:03] Unknown:
Yes. She's American.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
No. No. Did she have inheritance to the land from her family that owned it back then? Is there a clear chain of title to her?
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Clear chain of title.
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From the original land And chain of people. Chain of title puts you in the land patent, then the elodial, it it should be you can't really buy the elodial. It has to come through inheritance. So in the book in the book of the hundreds, they're saying that you can take that inheritance through Jesus Christ.
[01:22:35] Unknown:
Wow. Powerful, man.
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Okay. Samuel, did you inherit your land?
[01:22:42] Unknown:
No. Okay.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
It's they're like I said, Christian, there's a few people that are interested in this. It's probably not the majority of the audience. We talk about it occasionally. Nobody Samuel's been trying to get it done out there in California. How many years you've been trying to get that done, Samuel?
[01:23:03] Unknown:
Well, it's not that I've been working on it, you know, continuously. But in 02/2010, I made an attempt and, but I was still property. And so that's why I'm redoing it, Roger, because of you. It's all your fault.
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Thank you. Well, I'll accept I'll accept full responsibility for that.
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Anyway, it's a I wanted to I wanted to pass a case on to Mark that I would like him to get into and take a look at. Yeah.
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Mark, are you still with us, or do we do we drive you away, or are you still there?
[01:23:38] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure he left when Ferris spoke up. He does that. I wish he wouldn't.
[01:23:44] Unknown:
Well, let me figure out if there's such a wonderful effect on my audience.
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Ah. It's called Hansen versus Deckler. Deckler or d e n c k l a. It it says it deals with the fourteenth amendment jurisdiction. The trust in dispute was a private trust set up according according, to public municipal law for private purposes in the state of Delaware without any third party relationship. This is from Bros, and, I think it probably would be an interesting thing for Mark to take a look at.
[01:24:26] Unknown:
What what kind of case is it? Appellate level, Supreme Court, district, what?
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Well, let me go go go to where the site is
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because he's got reference here as a Samuel Samuel, it was a it was regarding personal jurisdiction in the context of assets held in the trust.
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And Hansen versus Deckla, 357 US
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335. 33519 19 458. Alright. Supreme Court. Yep. Held by The US. That's US reporter. Okay. Cool. But is that it the the determined with somebody's personal status who was interacting with a trust was what was the setup for the case? Circumstances?
[01:25:19] Unknown:
Let me see here. Julie just gave it to you. The fourteenth amendment jurisdiction, it says the trust in dispute was a private trust set up according to public municipal law for private purposes in the state of Delaware without a cert any third party relationship. Okay. And it's it's it's how did your see, the the claim that Stamper's making on that upper case name, basically, Roger, is that's a trust, and they have part ownership in it, the the the government. Right? And And what's that? Yes. And it's inequity. It's not in law. So they enter into our our business through that trust.
So,
[01:26:04] Unknown:
anyway, I'll just leave it at that. We've talked enough about it. Anyway, Christian, we got two very, very exceptionally competent people that do these. Mark, who's a paralegal, gives really hands on classes. We don't know how how Brent has already set his up from the standpoint that the lectures on the trust are already on his website, k, that he did a while back. Alright? So, Mark takes you in a little I I think he's a little more hand holding, and and whatnot. If he was here, he could explain the difference, but he's not. And, and then they're just in the, initial stages of setting up some sort of a class with Brent. So I'm not sure how the two compare head to head, but there's two different schools, and both of them are exceptionally competent. You could do one or both. Okay?
[01:27:00] Unknown:
You know, Roger, it was mentioned this morning by Paul. I'm kinda thinking Paul might be off doing something right now. Yeah. But he said Mark he thinks Mark wants to, do Brent's.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
Yeah. He does. So I don't know if just for, like, a cross reference or something. But Let's give let me give, Christian here a little more background because I had a, a listener. Well, she's been on with us here recently a few times, Robbie. And she wrote me an email and said, could you ask Brent to if if he knows any attorneys that he could recommend that, that for me to get a trust written? A fair question. And Brent came back. He said, no. And and and the a lot of the reason for that is because you I don't know how long you've been in this rodeo, this Patriot stuff, but at least for thirty three years, there's been people hawking trusts throughout the community.
And, the problem with it is you're putting a lot of, hopefully, valuable property one or the other in this trust. And if so, you wanna make damn sure there's no loopholes and it's written correctly. Right? Yes. Christian? Okay. Definitely. Well well, how do you know that if you don't know about trust yourself? You're just gonna go hire an attorney? How do you know he hadn't written something in or whatnot? I'll give you an example. We talked about touched on it, the other day. South Dakota has become a real beacon from all over the world for people doing this type of activity, trust and whatnot. They've evidently decided to make it a staple of their state.
Well, there was a case that came up about a year and a half, two years ago. Guy and his wife had started a company, had become very successful. They had, they had a a a split, and she was on the trust as the trustee. And he went out and found him a younger model, and he went in because there was no prohibition on the laws of South Dakota. And they went in and changed the trustee to whoever, the new wife or whatevers. But the problem was in in South Dakota law, they didn't have to notify the old trustee that she wasn't the trustee anymore. So if you don't know that, you're gonna go go write a a a a trust in South Dakota and get something happen like that to you. So the point being is that you really personally need to know what the hell the trust is, how it's written, how it's presented, all that kind of stuff. And that's why he said, I can't give you an attorney to go to. Go take my course. And she came back and said, I don't have time to take your course.
Well, do you have time to throw all your wealth away because you don't know what the hell you're who the hell you're dealing with and what they've written for you? You see the point I'm making here, I hope?
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Never say is after being. The point being
[01:30:07] Unknown:
Hey. Listen. No is. Okay. Listen. If I could grab you by the neck, I'd slap you in the next week. Okay? Leave my show. We all you do is drive my damn listeners away. K? You've been an asshole on here since the first time you ever came on. You've alienated a good part of the audience, and I don't want you here. Christian, I'm not that way to everybody. This is the only person that I've ever reacted to like that is this guy right here. Go away. Go find another program. Go call Alex Jones for god's sakes. Yeah. He was interrupting you. I I couldn't I couldn't talk to you. I wanna kick his ass.
K? Him and his He runs. Mensa. All these men oh, I'm a Mensa member. You're a egotistical piece of crap. Lee, go find another radio show. Raj.
[01:31:07] Unknown:
What? There are three people to characteristically, there are three people that dial in as anonymous. He is one of them. Julie is another, and so is Sherry when Sherry joins us using her home phone. I'm suggesting a program wide moratorium on anonymous callers.
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Okay.
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Julie, start using the right he speaks up and identifies himself, he is the one with Roger. He believe. But but well, we try to remove him, but being these other anonymous is Narc's not here, and he has all his paralegal experience because this guy right here
[01:31:45] Unknown:
ejects something, and people dislike him so much, they leave the damn program.
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Roger?
[01:31:52] Unknown:
Yes. Roger?
[01:31:54] Unknown:
Mark's not here. He texted me. He's been up since 05:30 this morning. He's exhausted. He needs to take a nap before the 04:00, private membership group. Okay. Training starts Alright. At 4PM. So that's why he's not here. Julie, don't call in on anonymous anymore. Please find another way to do it. I know. I'm I I well, that's not always me doing that. That's also my phone provider that I'm having issues with as well. So I do try not to, but sometimes my number comes up as unavailable. I get pulled this by other people that I speak to using my landline. They say that my number came up,
[01:32:31] Unknown:
unavailable or blocked, and I didn't do anything. I just picked up the phone and dialed. So I apologize when that happens. That's okay. I just hang up. We dialed in again. But, you know, I'm sorry we gotta resort to these kind of deals, but that that that is the cause of it as far as. Okay?
[01:32:46] Unknown:
He he absolutely I understand that, but we we shouldn't give him that much power to get I try not to.
[01:32:54] Unknown:
I try not to. I will I beg him to go away.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
I beg him to go away. We don't want your blood we don't want your blood pressure going up, and we don't want your blood to be boiling, especially on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. He's not worth it. And I don't know. It's just better off that we just ignore him and,
[01:33:13] Unknown:
and and hang up on him and move forward. As if this As if and and that's what we do. As if this damn show is not contentious enough, I have to get grammar tips from mister freaking Mensa member.
[01:33:27] Unknown:
Raj. Raj, I have kicked out I have kicked out five anonymous calls in the last forty five seconds. So anonymous caller, your line has been muted. Anonymous callers are not allowed on this program. You must hang up now or you will be removed and do not call back. Unblock your number or download the app and come in with a name. Anonymous callers are no longer allowed on the radio ranch, period. Have a nice day, Ferris.
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We have to go through these links to Ferris proof our program.
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Bye bye.
[01:34:09] Unknown:
All caps then. Okay. Please for no. That's good. Oh oh oh, good lord.
[01:34:16] Unknown:
Okay. Now that was funny, Raj. That was funny. What? Oh, well, I'm sorry. I got that was funny. Okay. And no. Your name doesn't have to be in all caps.
[01:34:32] Unknown:
Oh, shit.
[01:34:36] Unknown:
Well, Christian I'll see if we can get this back on the rails here. Christian, my point being is you could you or your lady friend could do either or or of these. I'm not sure what Mark meant. You can find out as we go forward. Obviously, he's well, Mark's got taken care of two elderly parents. And as he told us the other day, his mom's set a point where she can't even cook anymore. So he's having to do double duty on that, and it's I I can't believe. I'm sure it's very, very, very demanding. So God bless Mark for taking care of his parents like he's supposed to, and, we'll just have to, work with the circumstances.
I'm sorry he isn't around here as much as he used to be because he's a big addition to what we do here, you know, especially for me. Uh-huh. So, anyway, the the the trust thing is gonna be available. We'll make, make notices of the things as they change or as they come together. If you want to, I'm what's his he's got a specific trust website and email. But, but I can give you Mark's email when you're ready to do that, or you can ask him himself or whatever. He'll be back. So, Chris, how else can how else can we help you?
[01:35:59] Unknown:
I believe it's [email protected] or your family
[01:36:06] Unknown:
legacy. Julie, do you anyway, you can just send him one at straw man. He'll get it there too. But, anyway, he'll come back on. We can ask him specifics. He not gone for forever. So, yeah, what else can we help you? Yes, sir?
[01:36:20] Unknown:
Well, we got a we got a website yesterday, and and I hate to say this. He said it, I think, three times, but I did not get the,
[01:36:31] Unknown:
mister Wrench. Okay. I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it to you. It's real easy.
[01:36:36] Unknown:
Commoncommonlawyer.com. Okay. Now the one I was talking about is the one that's trying to get, many as many people for that, to, to, to make it a price.
[01:36:54] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that would be, That would be Paul, and he's right here with us. Paul? Which which website was that? No. Brent's is what he was looking for. Brent's common lawyer dot com. Well, that's what
[01:37:09] Unknown:
I said. Yeah. I But but to do the trust, I think you if you want to get involved with Brent's trust class, you email Paul. Yeah. Email me. Yeah.
[01:37:19] Unknown:
That may be, but Christian may wanna listen to him on his service tomorrow too. That's all on commonwealth.com. That's what he asked for. Okay. Yeah. Everything that he did on this morning.
[01:37:31] Unknown:
That's perfect. That's perfect. Okay. Hey. And I wanna I wanna thank you that you got you know, I figured there you got a lot of, spies trying to come in and enter intercept what you are doing, and you had you knew that right away. Thank god for that. Well, no. I I I
[01:37:49] Unknown:
Farris is a disruptor. I don't think he's a government agent, but boy sure disrupts the program. I've never seen anybody disrupt a radio program like this guy ever. K? So Now on the on the rest of it, Paul is putting together something to do with Brent's course. Brent's course on the trusts and Magna Carta, almost a whole year of two hour programs on the Magna Carta. He he he he does all these programs with a sheriff up in Barrow County, I believe, Michigan, and his name is sheriff Dar Leaf. And he's a constitutional sheriff. He's been in office twenty years. He's got all the posse and all that stuff in his county, and he does these shows with Brent, okay, on all these things that are in the can.
He's getting ready to do one that we're all really excited about. He did one on the on the the, second amendment. He and Darleaf went through all the militia and the second amendment stuff on one of them. The one he's fixing to do is comparative law, which is comparing the common law to the law of the city. Okay? Now Brent is very good, exceptionally good, at taking very complex situations and boiling them down to some simplicity. So what he has been able to get across to us, you know, anything you can get in an either or situation, if there's only two options, your your decision is much easier. Right?
Right. So you can get it down into these either. Are you a slave or are you not a slave? Okay. Well, this is is it common law or is it the other? Well, the common law he refers to as the law of the land because it's the law of nature, nature's god, and and and and all that. K? So the other is the law of the city, and all of those other bodies of law are all the law of the city because they're all based on the Babylonian merchant code. So whether it's Judaism, whether it's Catholicism stuff, or, whether it's UCC, all those things are all lumped in in law of the city. So now you only got two options, law of the land, law of the city. That's pretty easy, isn't it?
That is. Okay. Very simple. Well, now you go back and find out that the only real way that you can talk about the common law, which is so important to all of us around here, is when you can compare it to the law of the city. And so, in fact, the the the the preeminent work on the common law is Blackstone's commentaries. I'm assuming you're familiar with those or at least have heard of them. Right? Yes. Yes. Well, that Blackstone's commentaries were the first time the common law had ever been written down. Did you know that? I didn't. Okay. And what happened there was a very wealthy Jew hired Blackstone to go into Oxford and teach the law of the city.
And so Blackstone very cunningly said, well, I can't teach the law of the city without comparing it to the law of the land. So he went in and did the commentaries on the common law, and that was written down. And that's where it came from. And so as Brent says, the only way that you can really grasp those, and I'll give you a synopsis in a second, is when you compare the two. So here's the comparison. In the common law, we concentrate and insist on process. If all the processes are done correctly, the outcome will be correct no matter what it is. So you see that line of reasoning?
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Yes.
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Okay. Well, the law of the city is just the opposite. They're not interested in process as much as they're interested in outcome. So they gear the process to achieve the outcome they desire. So there's the difference in the two bodies. Okay? So, anyway, he they're he's gonna start in July, one of these every Thursday, two hours on with sheriff Darr on that, the comparative law between the two. He's got a book of 900 and something pages that you can, give a gift and get one. All that's on his website, commonlawyer.com. But Brent is a treasure. He's a national treasure. I've never met anybody like him before in this movement, and I am tickled to death to be associated with him at least one day a week.
And we've never missed. Yeah. You know? In over fifteen almost fifteen years, we've never met. Wow. So yeah. And, just, he's a wonderful asset of for the program. And, well, it's just he's just And you are asset. He's a wonderful program. Well, I'm doing this just strictly out of duty. And, but your Yes. There's somebody. Is that Joan?
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That's No. That's Lisa. Oh. How did you and Brent cross paths?
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Might I ask story. So when we were at the MicroFX, you may have been listening back then. Lisa's a long time listener. Almost whole time one of the places I had lost you at. Okay. Well, I fell in a black hole up there, I'll admit. And, so on the truth, on the, micro effect was a attorney named Larry Beecraft. You've heard us mention his name around here. Pretty infamous in the Patriot Commutment. Good guy. Really good guy. Can't think outside the box, but he's a hell of a guy. So, Beecraft had a show on Saturday, and he would send out an email on who he had on the program.
And I was on that list. And so Beecraft sends out an email, so I'm gonna have, this guy, Brent Winters, on Saturday. He's an expert in the common law. Well, now I knew we were into the common law through this process. Nobody seems to know much about it. Have you ever have you noticed? And so here's some guy, according to another attorney who I know and respect, that's supposed to be an expert on it. Well, the only expert on it I knew was John Benson. He was still alive back then. And so what I wanted to do was to combine a show with John Benson and Brent Winters on the common law.
And that unfortunately, John was sick so sick at that end that he just couldn't do it. And so I said, well, hell. Let's do a show. And so the very first time Brent and I were ever on the radio together, there was, this chemistry that's there. And, you know, I've been around broadcasting long enough to recognize it. We you see it on interviews when people have got good chemistry. And Brent and I had chemistry from the start, and both of us recognized it, actually. And what was happening was with my background and knowledge, he'd be we'd be talking about something, and I'd say something that he didn't know.
And so that would spark something in him, and he'd come back with something that I didn't know. And we just have this constant, back exchange of, basically trying to trigger each other's database. And we both liked it. And so we've been continuing those shows ever since. We neither one of us remember how long it's been, but it's happened to have been at least twelve or more years. And I doubt we've missed a few Fridays and not many. Sometimes even when I didn't have electricity down here when we're going through that stage, Brennan, come on. Take the show over. And we never know because we don't ever set anything up on whether it's gonna be a legal discussion or a spiritual discussion or going into all these, nuances of words in the Bible and the correct Greek and all that stuff.
And it just depends on which way the show goes. But they're all good. I can tell you one, Christian. I'll tell you something that came out of one of the early shows here that freaked both of us out. Okay? And that is there was a, a guy that got my a copy of my book and did the first review on it was a guy that worked for, a big big computer outfit. I forget right now. He was the international merchandising head of that department, Cisco. Had big computer out there. And somehow, he's big Christian and, with brother brother Gregory out there and his flock out there on the West Coast. And so, anyway, he wrote got ahold of my book. I still don't know how he got ahold of a copy of it, quite frankly.
I think it was through Henry Macaw or something. But, anyway, he got a copy of my book and wrote a, book review on it. And it was on the probably still is on the Dollar Vigilante site. You probably still go back and find that in his archives, I'd imagine. And so Gary, then wrote another article that he put on there. He had a connection to, to Dollar Vigilante guy, Jeff Berwick. And, it was, Jesus it was an anarchist. A pretty interesting title. And because I already knew about Gary, I was reading that article. And, in it, he talks about a word that's only mentioned twice in the Bible called Corban. Have you ever seen that word in I think it's twice in the New Testament, Christian. Corban, C O R B A N. Are you familiar with that? I think so.
Okay. Well, I wasn't either. And so I've got kinda curious because in the article, it mentioned it, that Jesus mentioned it twice and that the parasites were were, utilizing Corban. Well, I got curious about it. I went on the web. Yes. I remember that. Okay. Well, I went on the web and tried to look through there. See, I couldn't really still get my arms around it. The the something they were bypassing the laws of Moses and and and this, that, and the other. Well, I mentioned that one day on the show with Brent. And Brent goes, well, let me see what I wrote about it here in my study bible.
And so he reads it out, and, this is what was going on. In those days, Christian, you'll probably have find this hard to believe. In those days, the Pharisees or the Pharisees, they were the Pharisees, were corrupting the youth. And they corrupted the youth to the point to where when they saw anything of value in the house, you know, the kids are supposed to take care of the parents, law Moses, and the parents have, through their lifetime, save up something so that they can be taken care of in their old age, and the children are supposed to sell that and go do take care of their parents. Well, the Pharisees were declaring the stuff Korban, which meant that it was the property of the temple.
And so the chill the kids would tell them what was valuable in the homes. The Pharisees would declare core ban and come and seize it, just like self help remedies, lean lever, garnishment, and seizure. Okay? And so that's what Jesus was railing about. And guess what happened? If you converted to Christianity by the way, they would take that and sell it so that they could finance their social system. And if you converted to Christianity, you got kicked out of Social Security. Oh, I mean, their social system. They're doing the same damn thing they were doing two thousand years ago.
Golly. Now how rare is that in? How rare how rare is that insight right there? Boy, that's
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rare. Wow. That's what they're doing now. It's corrupting the youth.
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And stealing your valuables. That's right. They just come and grab it. And even They do it they do it with a series of laws or a this is part of the Babylonian merchant code. This is the kind of stuff I want you to know and understand, Christian. K? Because nobody does. This is from
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the the wicked as Bible said, they're wicked from the womb all the way back to Babylon. They are. I believe that. Okay? I think it's in their genes. K?
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But, Yes. The what the things you need to understand that like our listener, oh, it's Michael. He's a farmer up in Minnesota. He may be listening today. And he goes, I'm I I I wake up in the night and lay awake at night thinking about filing this paperwork and the IRS kicking my door in, taking my stuff. Now I see what Michael doesn't know because he hasn't been in this. He hasn't spent all the years we have trying to understand it and fight it. They don't work like that. It may appear that they do, but they don't work like that when they come and start grabbing stuff. Those actions are called lien levy garnishment and seizure.
Those are called self help remedies. And the they call them self help remedies. This is directly from the Babylonian merchant code, the UCC. But there's a great deal of process they have to get through before they can come garnish your wages or grab your car or any of that stuff. So it appears that they've got all this power that they don't really have. First of all, you've given it to them because you've let them agreed with their jurisdictional trap. And now after they've gone through these procedures for one of their serfs, then they can come and do that kind of stuff. But that takes, man, it takes you, months at bottom or over a year or more at most.
There's all kind you gotta be offered a chance to go to tax court, and you gotta do this, and you you got to get a series of letters here and they got to wait ninety days here and all that. So there's a long time and a lot of process that goes through before they can exercise these self help remedies, but they're there and like, with a car. Okay? And so if you go buy an automobile, there'll be a clause in that contract. And, it's it's called a recognizance clause. And what that does is it sets up where if you don't pay you that car payment until the 60 or after the sixtieth day, depending on the state, if you hadn't paid a car payment in two months on the sixty first day, they can come grab your car.
But what you did Yeah. When you signed that financing agreement, you didn't read all the print in the contract, and you probably wouldn't understood it if you did. But in that contract, that's what you signed. You signed it. It has this clause called a recognizance, which comes from recognize, and that means that you agreed that you would abide by whatever the terms and conditions the state legislature had already set up and written into the statutes on car payments. So when the sixty first day comes and you hadn't paid, that that recognizance goes, well, the state says we can come seize it. Well, they don't have to go to court. They don't have to get on a docket. They don't have to impanel a jury and all that to see if you've paid your car payment or not because you might be in Tierra Del Fuego by that time. Okay? So they put this cost justifiable and justifiably in that car contract.
So it's got, like everything else, legitimate uses. And then they, being the merchants of the earth, using the merchant code for two thousand years or more, know all the little twists and turns and intricacies of all these little things like remedies. And so that's where they turn these and weaponize them against us.
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K?
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God, Lee. That's the kind of stuff I want to teach you. Okay? So now you understand that, yeah, by well, you agreed to it. You signed the contract.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Didn't didn't want you had to go to had to go to lunch and and didn't have time to to read the contract. Well
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have a lawyer before. Well or and quite frankly, you'd probably almost have to have a lawyer or be some sort of a pair of pair of whatever yourself to understand some of those terms and what they mean. K? But my point being is they have a long process before they can do that. And here's where I think it really affects countries that they're utilizing this in, which is all over the earth, is because people don't understand that they've got a lot of process to go through or that they signed a contract with them, allowing them to do this in the first place originally. You just look at it as they've got all this power where they can come and grab people's stuff just like Korban back there in our example.
But they don't. They don't have that power. They and that's where you'll usually beat them if if in that process, they did something incorrectly or they didn't do something they were supposed to do. That's generally how you can beat them if you find one of those. You don't beat them on law. You beat them on procedure. But just that kind of stuff is the kind of thing that I want to teach because you know what? Nobody else in the whole patriot community understands it because nobody else had John Benson as their law teacher. John Benson, my law teacher, that y'all are becoming the beneficiaries of his sacrifices, spent his whole adult life studying law.
And not the law from law schools, but going back to the old books. And what we found out is that they've been controlling the law schools in America for about a hundred years, and they don't teach this stuff in law schools anymore or else very rarely. So there's where our advantage is, Christian, right there.
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Well, I wanna I wanna thank you for going through that for me that you took a lot of your time. And and but you know what? I just thank Danny Murphy too for for getting me on this, on this new
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new knowledge here in wisdom. So I appreciate you, Roger. Well, thank you, Christian. I appreciate you. And and what what we've got to do, if you've been in this for a while, is we're gonna very gently go take an eraser and try and erase a lot of that patriot crap out of your mind and get good substantive concepts, facts in there so that you'll really get your hands around this. And until you get those in your mind, you won't start being empowered. But as you get rid of this other stuff and you get this new stuff in here, at some point, if you continue to learn, you're gonna become empowered. And what you're what's happening, I think, is that you're being reconnected with your creator. You're you're taking your birthright back, and the more information he you fill your vessel with, the more empowerment he's gonna give you and the more connection you're gonna have back to him the way you were supposed to have if they wouldn't have stolen and put this system in place at your birth, all of our birth.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Well and I do it because I consider it to be a duty, Christian. I mean, yeah, Larry. I know you're there. Let me just say this for Christian. That thirty three years ago, next month or early August, I ran across these guys in 1992. And, I never had a tax problem till I met them. I had one pretty quickly after that. But that was my second life there. And, ran across these guys, I didn't have any tax problems or anything else, but I did have a curiosity. Could I always known that something was wrong since the sixties when you and I were kids. And, now I had a thread for, boy, I started yanking on it. So they were teaching their stuff for six months. It was $1,500 to go through the course back then.
And, there was 1,200 students that paid to go through the course. 1,100 after they got raided, because the IRS came and raided them within six months of them teaching, closed all three offices and etcetera, etcetera. And, everybody else left. Out of those 1,200, I was the only one that took this further. And if I wouldn't have done this, we wouldn't know any of this. We'd still be a bunch of idiot patriots bumbling around stumbling on false concepts instead of being able to take an arrow and shoot it straight at the target and hit the bull's eye where we make the most powerful sons of bitches, Satan, with children that have ever walked the face of the earth, we make them stand mute.
Nobody else has ever had that power, Christian, to my knowledge.
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You just you just cleared that up for me because what I, and I asked forgiveness for calling Danny Murphy, a John Paul Jones. Brent Brent yesterday said patriots are dangerous, and I didn't you just answered that question for me. Yep.
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Yeah. It's not because of bad intentions. It's because they're looking for what we've got. Everybody's looking to connect the dots to to answer the question, what allows that unelected bureaucrat over there the power to regurgitate legislation in a different form and apply it and attach it to me and enforce it on me? What gives him that power? That's the question they're looking to answer, and nobody's ever been able to answer it before to my knowledge. We got it square in the sights. And I wouldn't I could not do this if I had not been schooled by John Benson. And I was a good student. He was a good teacher, and he had the right information. And nobody else took it further. Okay? So that's where we are, Kristen. That's what you've latched on to here. Now, Larry, well, you were trying to say something a second ago.
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Yeah. So there's a number of correspondence that the IRS will send to an individual before the actual five letters that are the main letters that they send out before they, you know, send you a letter with their intent to, collect. And so I I found this that explains it. If you have an unpaid tax liability, the IRS will give you time to respond and correct the problem. However, if you continue to ignore it, they will send additional collection notices in the mail. You should receive five letters before they actually freeze and seize your accounts and assets. And here's here's the five letters. The c p 14, which is a notice of unpaid taxes, CP five zero one, remind of unpaid taxes, CP five zero three, second reminder of unpaid taxes, CP five zero four, notice of intent to levy.
State tax refunds can be seized after they after this levy notice. They have that in parentheses. And then the final one is called an l t one zero five eight or l t 11, final notice of intent to levy and notice of right to appeal. And this is from, this is from a it looks like, amproject.org. It's something related to tax, you know, tax filings.
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And one of them is what's called a ninety day letter in there, which is the, invitation for you to take them to tax court. So every one of those letters they send you, they gotta give you a certain number of days to respond. I think ninety is probably the typical response. They they want you to volunteer back into the system. They don't wanna necessarily use you as an example, but they will, especially if it's around tax time and it's real egregious where they can hang you out to dry in the public and scare the public into filing. But each one of those has a response time. There's over a year and or a year and a half easy just right there. All those letters and all the time, allotted for a response not to not to even bring into the pay case the, incapacity of the screwed up IRS bureaucracy. Yes, Paul.
Point made. Thank you, Larry.
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Larry, what were the the three letters in the middle that were notices of unpaid taxes, reminder of unpaid taxes.
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Yeah. C p 14, notice of unpaid taxes. C p five zero one, reminder of unpaid taxes or or they have remind of unpaid taxes. I don't know if that's a misspelling. And then CP five zero three reminder, second reminder of unpaid taxes, and CP five zero four notice of intent to levy. And I also read on another website that does that that has to do with taxes. It's at this point that they could actually, seize your state income tax refund.
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Okay. No. The point I was state. I'm at state. The Yeah. And the point I was I was getting to is the power of three. You heard of the power of three? You say something three times, three times unrebutted, it becomes fact. There's three notices of unpaid taxes. They're making the declaration that they presume you have unpaid taxes. And if you don't answer that and cover that rebuttal or rebut that presumption, then they proceed as law. They proceed as fact. So if those three letters in the middle, that's the linchpin right there.
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What were the three letters? I was doing something else.
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Notice of unpaid taxes. And if you don't say, I don't owe taxes, then they presume that you un you have unpaid taxes. I I thought there's three letters in there. Oh, you have three letters in the middle. BC. No. There's three letters in the middle, and they all reference unpaid taxes. They all make the presumption.
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Yep. So, and that may be for failure to file.
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That may be for Well, it it was the first three, Paul.
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Okay. Okay. Fine. Okay. Then that's where the lynchpin is. Roger? The power of three? Yes. Yes. Who's, hey, Roger there?
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Roger? For for a benefit of a Christian.
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So so you have to rebut you have to rebut every one of those, won't it?
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Well, you should. You should. You should. Especially the first of fifty nine is the the one that you should rebut within ten days just out of the concept that's behind it, we think, is, dear Christian, we haven't received your tax return for 2023. If you've already filed this, disregard this notice. If not, we might ask you to bring in some of your books and records. K? That one, have you ever seen one of those? No. Okay. Well, if you haven't filed, then that's what you'll get. That'll be their first contact. And what most of our people do, Christian, is they take that and throw it in the trash can.
Now unbeknownst to them, what my teacher John thought, I've never seen him be wrong, okay, was that that was a specialty kind of contract in the uniform commercial code, the Babylonian merchant code, in specialty contracts, which is called a confirmatory writing. And that is when one merchant writes to another merchant, and they're both surprised to know the contents of the writing. And if you don't expressly deny that in ten days, then it's considered accepted. And what they thought is because the tax system is voluntary, that this is the way they get you in a contract if you haven't filed at the front end of the process.
That allows them down the line when the computer stops because you don't have a ten forty on file. You didn't file, remember. And that allows them to insert what's called a substitute for return or in our community, a dummy return. And then that's where they say, well, we've come up with all this like they did with me. Well, we've come all up on all this, and and we're gonna say he owes us $35,000. And then they put that in there even though you didn't sign it. You you you got a contract on the front end, so the agent does it. Now there's a ten forty in the process, and it goes on to assessment and collection.
That's the pivot point right there, and that one letter is what it seems allows them to do all that. K? You have tenders to respond. They don't respond. It means they accept. Chris, are you trying to say something? Because you're really faint. I was
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I was trying to say something. Okay. I'm sorry. I'll let you. Scripture that I wanted to share. Okay. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Gotta talk right into your phone. Here's the scripture. It's Corinthians seven verse 21. Out the art thou called being a servant, share not forth. So if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
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Okay. What what was the first line of that? Says
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another version says, when you were a slave, when god called you, let not that weigh on your mind. And yet if you can get your freedom, take advantage of that opportunity. Oh, there you go. Right there straight from the big book.
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So, Christian, hope that helps you out. We can go into all kinds of stuff. These little remedies, these little self help remedies here, they are really important to understand because that's what changed Rome. Rome, for the first two hundred years, had a very like a common law. They did the 12 tablets. And then through the trade, the growth of the empire and the merchants coming to Rome who used the merchant code, and the Romans saw them doing this self help remedy things and over 200 got the praetor to incorporate the uniform commercial code into the Roman common law. Guess where that is in our system? That's The United States code.
The United States Code is Roman civil law, and it's got both common law and it's got this Babylonian, merchant code in it. So every you know? But you know the old saying, those who don't learn their lessons from history are destined to repeat them. That was Jorge Santayana. You're you're familiar with that, George? Yes. I mean Christian. I'm sorry. Well, so John, my teacher turned that around a bit and he said, those who do know history can repeat it over those who don't in half the time.
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You know? Very, very active. Very. Yes. There's there's times that you, you are really coming through clear real clear, but I think people are trying to say something,
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as you're talking, and it really causes a Well a conflict in which you're trying to tell me. It does, and I'm sorry for it. It's a necessity with what we're doing. And to get the clarity, there's a slight delay, a half a second delay. And that's why we ask people to say comment or whatever, and and we'll recognize you. We try our best to get back to you. But we can't both talk at the same time, and that causes that confusion you're alluding to right there, I believe. Raj. May I? Yes. Let Paul get in there first, Joe. I will let Joe go first. Alright, Joe.
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It was Erby. Erby. Erby. Oh, I agree. Well, maybe I should go before him.
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Because when he starts talking, he keeps going. I wanna circle I wanna circle back. I wanna circle back. Roger was telling the story, and I think it would be good to put her on this one broadcast to Christian of how the light bulb moment for you when it all came together when you were doing your own affidavit and saw those phrases in the paperwork, and it was a light bulb moment that said, It I'm not We're we're well, the reason we're here is because I had a little voice back in about 02/2007, second time it's come to me in my life, telling me I needed to get out. That's all it said. You need to get out. Obama was running, and I didn't do anything with it. And and and so I waited, just put it on the back burner. Well, a little while later, it came again, said the same thing. And I learned at that point when you get that little voice twice, you better pay attention to it. And so, through a series of events, I decided to move to Argentina, and I finally had to go get a passport.
And I reluctantly went to our little post office and picked up the forms and came home and started reading the d s 11, the orange one. And there at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for about ten years. And that's why we're here today. Warning. You can you can attach documentation, including affidavits, but you better not lie. And that's the warning box that's in both forms today. And when I I saw that, I knew I had him. It had secretary of the state of The United States Of America at the top. I knew that he was the I knew, but it I hadn't put it all together. I had known since the early days that he was the, final arbiter of all matters concerning citizenship in the country. That had stuck in the back of my mind from a letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida. When I asked him for a letter stating I was a Florida State citizen, he wrote me back. He said, I can't do that, son. You're the Secretary of State of The United States has all final authority over all matters concerning citizenship. That stuck in my mind.
And that, when I saw that affidavit when I saw that, pay that passport application, both of those things, the warning box and the secretary of state of The United States Of America were both at the top of the first page. And I went, holy shit. This is what I've been looking for. And it it has been. Everything stemmed from that moment.
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That's something.
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Yeah. Well, see, here's what they're doing. Well, now I can analyze it a little bit better because I understand what they're doing. All they're doing is taking the same concept with us, and they change the label on it. They just label it something different, and we go off chasing. Oh, there's a whole there's a brand new pig. We all go off chasing it. But it's the concepts. That's why I teach concepts. Because once you get the concept, it doesn't matter what they label it. You can tell what it is. Now I think that's the reason they buffaloed our whole community all these years, quite frankly, or one of the main ones. There's several different things they do. That's one of them. They change the definition of words. That's another one.
Yeah. And so you, you know, you look through You're looking through the code and trying to figure this out, and they got over in title 42. It says the citizens of The United States are have all the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. White citizens, what do you mean? That's in The United States code. Well, there it is right there. You go over to title 28 with the jurats, the penalty of perjury. Well, there's one inside The United States and one outside The United States. You go over to the Internal Revenue Code, and they call it a nonresident alien. You go over to title aid, and they call it a territorial citizen. So there they are just changing the label on the same damn thing.
So you've really got to know your stuff here, and that's why I drill you guys on basics. Basics. Basics. Basics. You learn those basics, and they can never fool you again.
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Hey, Raj.
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Yes. Just like
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watch this hand while the other hand That's exactly that's exactly what they do. Like the guy at the county fair, which thimble is the pea under. That's exactly what they're doing.
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We've got something go we've got something going on with, FCC. There's a high pitched squeal, and that is no doubt interfering with the box between collars. I've been trying to identify it. I cannot find it yet. We're actually fifteen minutes over showtime because I shut off the, whistler at the top of the, of the first tower and forgot to turn it back on. Okay. But I did also while I was hunting for the, the law of names, I have not been able to, locate that document. However, I did find one that references the Chicago style manual that says, law is extremely precise. Every letter, capitalization, punctuation mark, etcetera, in a legal document is utilized for a specific reason and has legal, I e, deadly force consequences.
If, for instance, one attempts to file articles of incorporation in the office of the secretary of state of a state, if the exact title of the corporation down to every jot and tittle is not exactly the same in each and every time the corporation is referenced in the documents to be filed, the secretary of state will refuse to file the papers. This is because each time the name of a corporation is referenced, it must be set forth identically in order to express the same legal entity. The tiniest difference in the name of the corporation identifies an entirely different legal person.
Capitalization matters. It identifies an entirely different legal person, not necessarily you.
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Okay. Well, on that note, I'm gonna go off and enjoy my weekend, and you guys can scrabble over that all you want.
[02:18:39] Unknown:
I well, I just thought I'd throw that in.
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Okay. Yes. Chicago style, man. Roger. Is recognized. Yes, sir. Who's that?
[02:18:47] Unknown:
This is Sleepless Michael.
[02:18:50] Unknown:
Hello, Sleepless Michael. How are you doing? Michael. I hope you found a I've got a tranquilizer or something for that.
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We've been talking about trust and then we now we talk about IRS. Oh, we've been all over the map today. Yeah. Been all over the place. Is it necessary for me to keep thinking about making a trust to protect myself from the IRS? Well, it'd be wise. Is it necessary?
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Well, it's not necessary, but it'd be wise to be protect your assets. And it's certainly worth something looking into.
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Well, if that after isn't the affidavit gonna do that? Keep shoving the affidavit? Well, it should.
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It should. But but what if, somebody what if your tractor goes through the fence and injures the I'm only running on the air. Let's only stay on the subject of the IRS. Well, I'm still Not all the lawsuits. To give you another reason to have a trust. Might not be IRS. Oh, I'll I'll do it for estate purposes planning only. Let's stay on IRS subject. Is IRS
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and having an irrevocable trust necessary as a national?
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Well, I don't think so, but some people like to have the assurance of it. So I can't make that decision for individuals. It's your decision. I'd we've never seen the IRS crash this. I think lately, Michael, where we had another Michael in his group of FedEx workers call in last week or week or three. Did you hear that? Okay. Well, I think I'm here every day. Okay. Well, I think what happens is well, that's good. What happens is with that, that's why I asked you, anybody else gets, has that happened? Please let us know. Let's see if this is a concerted all across the board or if this is some isolated example for some reason.
But you see, that would make perfect sense to me that they might come and mess with your withholding because they're you're they like to be real how powerful we are and how all that stuff, their chutzpah. So they come back. They can't go after you because we got them by the balls. They're not gonna take that into court, but they'll come back and go, well, we're gonna make your your employer take you with maximum withholdings out. Okay. Well, big deal. Next year and on April 15 or before, I'll file a ten forty n r and get all that back. Okay. So I don't know whether it's an isolated incident or a whole new policy, but they can't do anything about us.
And that's got them freaked out. This is the big hitch. This tax thing is the big hitch because that's how they go back and satisfy the origins of the credit monetary system. And if they don't do that, the bond market crashes, which, incidentally, it's doing right now. Roger? All them damn nationals not paying taxes. Well, no. It's it's all the, the these damn bastards killing or going around the world and pulling all this shit they've been pulling for decades. And the rest of the countries in the world getting pissed off about it to the point that they start a whole gold standard, monetary system called bricks, which an awful lot of people are fleeing to right now because of what's going on in Iran.
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Yeah. Mirka and then Julie. Mer, Mirka first and Julie.
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Thank you. What I can say, Roger, you know, for Michael to understand is that the IRS has no authority unless, you know, you you owe some taxes, federal taxes that if you're employed by them or if it's the 81 eight seventy one and eight seventy seven. And I was gonna say, Roger, on Monday, maybe we should talk about a little bit about the authority
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that they that The United States system has over us now that we're not a U US citizen. The only the only authority private individual. Well, the only authority they've got off of us are those two sections of taxes you just mentioned. Right.
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So, it's important to understand that, you know, as a private individual, they we we are not no longer under their authority. I know, but Michael to us to to it's up to us to carry ourselves.
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Michael is. He's a farmer. He's understanding. He hadn't spent his time studying all this stuff, and he just hadn't come to that conclusion, sure enough, in his mind yet. I think he will eventually, but I I can't. And we had to come on here and say, Michael, if you're not certain about this, I wouldn't file an affidavit yet. K? So, it's very rare that I tell people not to do this, but if you're really not sure what you're doing since everything's voluntary and it's your choice, I don't think you ought to do it until you're a little more certain. And that's no construct on Michael or anything else. I understand he's what he's going through. But, the the it's this is a serious thing, really, and I I want people to take it seriously.
So I'm glad that Michael has got this hesitation and these questions. K? Cool. So, Michael, glad that you're there. I'm glad to know you're there all the time. Julie, next. Can I say something, Roger? Yes, ma'am. You may. Of course.
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Oh, this is for Michael. Michael, you asked and you wanted this specific to the IRS. And my whole thing is it's better to have it not need it than need it and not have it. And the reason why I'm saying that is we just have utter lawlessness going on in this country, in every way, shape, and form when it comes to these courts and these lawyers and these judges. And so, I mean, I don't know if you guys followed, the recent court case about a, Down syndrome, girl by the name of Grace who was murdered at a hospital since Right. Right. That's the judge ruled against, against him. He was kicked out of the hospital. They murdered her. They used drugs on her. They signed a do not resuscitate, that they were not supposed to, and the judges ruled against him and for the and the jurors ruled against him and said, nope. The hospital was found not guilty, not liable for murder. It's outrageous what they do. But why, Julie? That takes answer in Washington. Are US citizen. Because they are US citizens. They are not nationals. That's why they lost.
I I think that was an addition of that. Today that was blatant murder. I've I've read the whole case. I followed that thing from inception. Even if you're not even if you're a a US citizen, they literally murdered that Down syndrome girl and Wasn't. The drugs they used without authorization, and we have utter lawlessness here. I'd say protect yourself, better be better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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According to the trading agency in the act. Got them. According according to the Washington wasn't that a state of Washington case? It wasn't a federal case. It was a state case, wasn't it?
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I think it was, Roger. I just really felt I really feel horrible for him because it's I mean, it's how can you find him I mean, these people were bought off, obviously. How could you not find them liable for all of they just it was, like, 10 things that they did, and they even admitted during their deposition. They contradicted themselves during the depositions when they were asked specific things, and they also lied during their deposition. And here, you know, I don't know. I just don't trust any of these these courts even if you are national. They are It's getting not cut out. It was happening to break yesterday. Right now.
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Okay. We lost you. By the way,
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by the way, Roger, you really ought to go to Rumble and listen to the latest two hour interview with one zero seven who I don't really care for. However, that guy knows something. He talks about what's going on with the SES inside the government and all these shadow governments and all of the fraud that's going on with all of the intelligence agencies and stuff. And the stuff that he was divulging was very interesting. It was reminding me of a, interview that Chihuahua always has with, Martin Armstrong. This was one of the better interviews that I've heard from clandestine information.
He's on beforenews.com. If you go to that website, it's the top video. They rank the videos by viewership. It's the fur it was the first one on there this morning when I woke up. It's probably still there. It was number one. Got it. It's a fascinating educational
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Okay. Video to watch. Alright. Thank you. I haven't even had the chance to listen to
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Martin Armstrong. This got recommended earlier this week. Yes, Paul? Yeah. He's you can listen to that one too, Roger. That one's incredible.
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I don't I can't listen to all this stuff. I just don't flat have the time and have a life. I can't do both. Paul, what do you want? Julie,
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that child died because that child was a citizen of The United States, an an enemy of the state pursuant to the trading with the enemy act of 1933. And the hospital is an agent of the government because the hospital is the one that is the informant when a child is birthed in their hospital.
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Every hospital in the country has a government federal terminal in it to start this birth certificate process. Okay. I get it. You're right. Alright. You're right on that. I stand corrected. Yeah. And you see and see, here's interesting. Julie knows what we're talking about. She's been around about six six, seven months now. And she goes, it's just lawless. It's just lawless. Well, it isn't lawless. If you're one of theirs and you got these privileges called civil rights, they can do anything they want to you in the end in the end analysis.
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But I still say, Roger, that is lawless because they are not functioning under law. They're functioning under code. No. They're a funk they're legally. They're doing it legally, not lawful. Right. Right. Right. So it is lawless. It's legal, but it's lawless. Okay. Well, that's what it says in the in the footnote of Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars.
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Julie, I'm sure with all your background research, you've come across that. And one of the footnotes My friend my my friend's private weapons for for whatever word, that's a Deborah Tavares document. She reports that all the time. Well, it's not her document. It came out of a government sale. But regardless of that Right. The point I'm trying to make is in one of the footnotes, it says, what we do will not always be lawful, but it will always be legal.
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Right. But I think
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Alright. Now I've got Just FYI, if I may.
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Yes,
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sir. So my dear friend, Hartford Van Dyke. Yeah. He's that guy. Look him up. If you haven't ever heard of him, he wrote silent weapons for quiet wars after he read the report from Iron Mountain. That book, that pamphlet, that that, whatever. He it was found inside of a copy machine at an airport base in in Oregon where Hartford was with he picked up a young man hitchhiking. He had 600 copies. He just came from the printer. He had 600 copies of that book in the back of his car, and he sees a guy hitchhiking on the highway in full military dress. And he says, you never see that. He pulled over, and he said, what's wrong? And the guy says, I'm three hours late to duty station, and I'm three hours away.
Hartford says, get in. I'll drive you. He explains the whole book to him, and then as they pull up to the base, they come up to the gate the guard shack. He the gate in Hartford reaches in the back, and he pulls out a book, and he hands it to the kid. The kid gets out. He watches and walk through the the ends of the shack. He turns around and he leaves. Sometime later, his buddy called him and said, Hartford, you better take ownership of your book because the government is claiming that they wrote it because it got found in a copy machine that was sold off of that, that base that you gave to that kid. And Deborah was telling this story for years, and I kept hearing it. And then in 02/2015, I was on a conference call, this Friday night call that I've been on since that was my first night there. Hartford Van Dyke was the the the guest speaker that night, and it was his first time. And he told us his life story, and it all started in Hawaii six weeks before Pearl Harbor. And, oh my god, what a freaking, it was unbelievable. He just recently died.
He did. Last year, April, it's been a little over a year now. And I I was we were very close. And, he he's born on doctor Wallach's birthday. They're the same age, and they were so much alike. Unbelievable. Their idiosyncrasies were identical. They could have been like twins. You know? But doc is five foot four and Hartford was six foot three, and he he was a hundred and thirty pounds. I put 20 pounds of muscle on that guy with longevity, and, it prolonged his life, I know, for several years. So, anyway, I yield. But, yeah, check that out, man. I I'm Well, it did. Telling the truth, and I know it's back. I've I've heard the story out of the copier, you know, how they
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change copiers and they put those things out for sale and somebody bought it and they opened it up and there's this document in there. Okay. But the point I was trying to make was at the bottom, it separates clearly the law of the city and the law of the land. One is lawful. The other is legal. Yes. Julie what?
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Yeah. He's right. I'm on stopthecrime.net, and you can get this document. And it specifically says the following document dated May 1979 was found on 07/07/1986 in an IBM copier that had been purchased at a surplus sale. Yep. Top secret silent weapons for Quiet War's operations research technical manual, TMDashSW7905Dot1. This publication marks the twenty fifth an anniversary of the third world war called the Quiet War, and you can you can get it on stopthecrime.net.
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Okay. There you go. So, anyway, filled all kinds of fascinating stuff in our industry in this history, and we found the loophole to get out of it. Count your blessings. Alright? Does anybody else have anything for me? Because I've got to do things, and I got a housewarming party to go to and all that stuff.
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Anybody got anything for me? Just watch the fresh fruit.
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Okay. I will, and we will leave it at Robert. Roger, be blessed, Roger. Oh, thank you. Have a good one. Thank you. I'm still doing this. Do okay. Have a good day, Roger. Yep. Yep. See you Monday.
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Bye, Raj. Hey. So that was it. The Radio Ranch with Procter Sales, the Sabado edition on eurofolkradio.com, well, up to about thirty four minutes ago, and Global Voice Radio Network. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. You'll also find links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Hopefully, I'll be able to get rid of that high pitched squeal. It's making me crazy. It's making me nuts. You can also find downloadables, exhibits, interviews, all kinds of stuff. Great links. You really, really, really need to pack a lunch and stay the day. Thank you so much for joining us. Our archives are on archivedot, globalvoiceradio.net, or you can find the link right there on the on the web page. There's bonus materials, in in red, on the first page that also has links to our telegram groups, National Status Freedom and PPN Radio Ranch and also chetango.com.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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They're chomping at the bit to communicate today. I can tell. I thought you'd chase the world. Yep. When they're when they're talking when they're talking over the intro, there's a there's conversation to be had, so stay tuned. Here we go. Oops. Here we go on the you can already tell it's Saturday. Here we go on the Saturday edition near the Radio Ranch, and it, Roger Sales, your host, and then the date stamp is June 21. So there we go. I think we've got a very, very light compliment. We probably don't have to test mister Beaner too bad today. Is that correct, Paul?
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Yeah. We have a very light compliment today, but it's basically been the compliment we've had all week. Yeah. We're we're just, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Euro folk and Eurofork, Eurofork and Global Voice are on our website, thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. And also the link to free conference call is on that website as well as well as a host of other things. Fun stuff. Yeah? Yeah. People are just talking to just chopping at the bit to get talking. They're talking over intros and everything else. Holy smoke. There was there was some conversation going on. I got right in under the wire this morning. It is Saturday morning. I did sleep in just a bit,
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much to my detriment on the timing issue, but I did sneak in early enough to hear some conversation between Chris and and Mark about something they were getting posted. What was that, if you don't mind catching all of us up here, boys?
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Sure. Sure, Chris. And I blame it all on Chris for the Okay. You know, talking over the intro this morning. Okay. Alright. He's the one who instigated it I see. Suspectingly.
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Well, come on.
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But Chris was telling us about a video he just seen called, some to sell us on war and Iran, Trump no. That's not it. Sorry. Sorry. The real reasons for The US Israeli war on Iran explained. Now there's a a shortened version, I thought, that was twenty two minutes. And I'm sorry. That's to sell us war on Iran. That's the one I accidentally copied, I think. Yep. But, anyway, the that particular video that Chris is talking about, and Lisa confirmed, it's, one hour and six minutes.
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Okay. And who are Chris, who are the people on the video talking about this?
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It's, a lot of excerpts from Netanyahu, from Trump, and from many other people in the political scene of the complete tape takeover that they have planned and that they're now beginning to execute.
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Well, you know, it's funny. It's
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detail.
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Tom Zeesch. Detail. Okay. Somebody dropped me that. I'd appreciate it. It's a topic, obviously. We're gonna talk about it today too a bit. I was just watching, judge Napolitano and, John Mearsheimer, a, my on the other side critic of Israel. He Mearsheimer, and he had a partner that wrote a paper that got the amen corner real upset years ago. And, so it's very interesting. I would like to see that and keep up with it there. Folks, we are seeing Israel lose. They've lost they lost against Hezbollah in Lebanon a numb about eight years ago or something like that. They had a little skirmish.
And Lebanon, with their hills of Lebanon, has been evidently building underground, silos for all these missiles. The ballistic missiles that Iran is whipping on them right now. Well, they've been supplying Hezbollah over in, Lebanon just north of Israel with that too. And I've been kinda surprised that in the midst of all of this exchange between Israel and Iran, that Hezbollah hasn't come out and started giving them, you know, a little, a little flanking maneuver with a bunch of missiles coming down from the north. I guess they're holding off because with Syria toppled now, they probably cannot get resupplied, especially in the current situation. So they may be just holding off, but amazingly and I watched a little bit with us. Tom, are you with us this morning?
Tom d? Tom sent me an email, and it was a former English ambassador. And he was in Lebanon, and he was overlooking and and and going over the new embassy we're building in Lebanon. It's the second largest embassy in the world behind the Iraqi one, and they've got 5,000 employees. I mean, the guys going, look, and the the these don't happen to embassies. They only need about 500 for everything, and they've got pictures of the construction. And going over all the numbers, I didn't watch the whole thing, but it was stunning to me. Why why are they doing that in Lebanon? K? So, anyway, yep.
Israel is losing. Hallelujah. And, the more pressure than any of us can put on Trump, whether it's if you wanna do that and go that far, either calling the White House or sending, whatever. But no. Just no. No. No. No. Don't go. No. Don't go. And, Israel has put themselves out on a limb, it appears, big time. So we'll see how it develops. Very interesting situation, but, they're losing as it stands right now. And, that is is music to my ears. Boy, I hate you. If you're listening, you bastards, I hate you son bitches. And boy, are you getting your comeuppance for a change. So hallelujah.
So that, we certainly discussed that today. Mark's with us, which is a pleasure, always. And, so does anybody have anything topical, to bring up and discuss today? Any kind of legal stuff? We got a couple of new listeners. I don't know that they're with us today, newer that have contacted me, Norma out in California. Norma, so shout out to you if if, you're listening. She's a naturalized American. I don't know from what country. But, anyway, she's wanting to go through the process and tickled to death to find us and all that kind of stuff. So welcome. We got Christian who just showed up this week and who seems to be, pretty, pretty enthusiastic about what we do here and the things we cover. So welcome to him, and there may be some other new ones out there.
It's the you know, I don't know if it's these war times and stuff that draw people to us or whatever. But, anyway, however you found us and and and, whatever tickled tickled, the your insides to resonate with this message. We're very grateful, and always remember this is the platform where you get your questions answered. And we'd love to meet you too. The group of the family here likes to to meet the new folks and say hi. Is that somebody wanting to say hi right there? No. I didn't hear anything. Oh, I thought I heard something. Well, I'm getting old, so bear with me. Oh,
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no. You're getting older. Yeah. Getting old kind of getting older kind of kinda makes it sound like it's it's gonna take a while.
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Well, I hope it will. I don't wanna check out just yet. You know? Yes, Mark.
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As my grandfather used to say, getting old ain't for sissies.
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Ain't for sissies. That's right. It ain't everything is cracked up to be too. Is that Bruce? I'm here and there. I wanna talk to Bruce. Bruce, are you there? Yes. I do. Yes, sir. I gotcha. Well, guess what, man? I saw last night on, Mark shot me, shot me message, check out Alex today. Well, I I listen to Alex every day. So, anyway, one of the people he had on did you catch this, on that show yesterday with this guest, this guy that's running against sugar britches? Do you know about this, Bruce? No. Guy from Greenville, is gonna run against sugar britches. His name Mark Lynch. I wanna say Mark Lynch. Oh, shoot him.
He's Mark Lynch. Is that right? He's, well, he ain't a spring chicken. He's probably up there in his sixties. I would imagine late fifties. Got two Mhmm. Daughters. He's from Greenville. He's got some sort of a successful business up there. Very, very Christian oriented guy, and they're already showing him, leading the polls already, even though there are, few people in the state know about him yet. So you may wanna go over and check out the the third, third third or fourth fourth hour of Alex yesterday. And he does about thirty, forty minutes with him and, good guy. Good guy. So, that's good.
No. I don't think he is.
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No. Not an attorney.
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Wonderful. Yeah. That's the right direction. Yeah. Well, go listen to what he's gotta say. You know? He's it sounds like a good replacement. And, boy, they read some damning letters that his campaign has found with, Podesta talking about that Lindsey Graham will be the Republican on our side and all this kind of stuff. You really need to listen to that whole segment. I think it'll perk you up a little bit. Okay. Yep. Well, I'll Well, I call I just wanna say, I was just gonna do this. Boo. Everybody wake up and get in here. Alright. I'm gonna wake up the masses.
Okay. Alright. Well, amen. You know, the the the ones that are interested will get up and and join us. This program originally, of course, we started Saturdays during the Biden administration when things were when they were driving people to us. You know? And, the Saturday show was added because for people at work during the week and couldn't, get on here and ask questions or communicate should they want to. And we had an example of that a couple weeks ago with Tom from California. I wish he'd come back and join us. That was a nice show a couple weeks ago, and there was a couple of things I figured out after the program. I would like to have told him to talk to his attorney friend.
But, maybe he'll show up again here sometime. That's for you folks. And if you don't show up or you don't wanna communicate with us, then we'll we'll we'll just go off and have our own conversation. That's what we'll do. There's always stuff to talk about, but we'd rather talk about than the the primary things that we do here, which is trying to get your little honky ass free. That may not be may be some that aren't honkies. Okay? But if you'd like to get out from under Jew slavery, in which you've been in your whole life and you've agreed to every time they ask you, if you'd like to get out from Jew slavery, these damn monsters, throughout history, we can help you. Okay.
So anyway, the open invitation was honk honk, somebody's honk honk and come on through. You said you just said honkies. Yeah. Honkies. Yeah. Well, that's what it's the you know, it's these white supremacists, man. We wanna get out from under the damn, Jew slavery yoke. You know?
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I don't think you can call a honkie a white supremacist if you know the origins of being called a honkie.
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Well, I must be missing something. You wanna, you wanna expand it for me?
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Well, the the gentleman who who were dating the black women would pull up outside and give a honk for them to come down. They wouldn't get out of the car. They were in a black neighborhood and they were scared. Yeah. And they would just do the honk, honk, honk. And, and, the guys in the neighborhood started calling them, you know, white honkies.
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Well, that is the, you know, I'm almost at the ripe age of 77 and I've never heard that before. So good for you, Mark. Wow. Learn even an old dog can learn a new trick. You didn't who who was that?
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I I heard that from, a guy who used to party with Timothy Leary. Worked with him, and he's from California. Uh-huh. And, he worked at Seagate. He was a California transplant, hysterical, funny guy. I can't really quite call him a hippie. Yeah. He had short hair but he was more like almost like a little combat rock guy. He liked the Clash and some of those groups. But he was big into music, I'd you know, and I was too. And I I learned a lot from him as just, just an interesting gentleman.
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You remember Timothy Leary's gentleman loosely. Right. You you remember Timothy Leary's famous statement? He said when that joy when that jail door slams, you get an you get an instant education.
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That's I bet so. Yeah.
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So, well, where can we go this morning? Has anybody got any specific direction you'd like us to pound on or answer or just say hi?
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Come on, you nationals. Step up.
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Come on. Especially you That's a national question. Yeah. Come on. This Saturday show is for the people that can't join us during the week. And I and, it's hard for me to believe that people won't avail themselves of this opportunity to communicate with us. So please, if you're out there and you you want to be a national, you got questions, you you just wanna make sure we're for real? Come on.
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I have one for you. You do? Hey, Chris. As as nationals as nationals, I'm working on this right now as a matter of fact, silently in the background. We need to learn how to use our status in the law to, demolish or get rid of any lawsuits that someone may use to throw at us.
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Well, that'd be good. What if you're what if you what if you deserve the lawsuit?
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They have no
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jurisdiction. Yeah. They do. Well, if you, if you,
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if they're damaged, I'm, yeah. Roger. Go ahead. Go ahead. Roger. Chris is being awfully vague. So who is bringing the lawsuit against you determines whether they ultimately have jurisdiction. So who are you referring to as bringing the lawsuit?
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Well, any any, frivolous lawsuit or any lawsuit where somebody sues somebody, because they make some claim that they're owed something based upon some theory of law that's, and and they're attacking you in your upper case in an upper case persona.
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Well, Chris, could I say we've been on the air for fourteen years at this point, and that has never happened. So it's a long reach on a hypothetical. I I it's pretty evident that once we change status, these people understand it because they don't wanna come after you. And what I think is going on here, and one of the reasons that will keep them obeyed is because they don't want they're scared as hell of this information, and they do not want or would they ever put it in a spotlight where other people could find out about it? I think that's one of our best, adversaries. I mean, our best, you know, aspects here.
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So Let me I'd like to address that on several levels. First off, anybody can sue anybody for any reason at any time. However, whether that lawsuit sticks or not, deter you know, it depends on several things. Now if you're talking about where maybe you ran over somebody's mailbox and you damaged their property, they have a right to come into court and file a complaint against you. Okay? And it doesn't matter whether they spell your name in all capital letters or not it has nothing to do with the way your name is spelled. You are the individual who caused the damage.
And and if the court has subject matter jurisdiction, in other words they hear that type of case for instance, some courts can't hear any any cases where the the judgment that's being sought is over $10,000 Okay? So, a family court can't hear an auto accident, right? If it's a family court judge, their jurisdiction is over family matters and if you bring in an automobile accident, they can't even hear it. So it really depends on, you know, you've got several, I shouldn't say several, there's three primary legs of jurisdiction. And so in that instance yes, it doesn't really matter how you spell your name. I say because I go by mark all caps because your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction.
It just doesn't do it. It's what you answer to.
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You know? What what the biggest jurisdiction is what you consent to.
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That's right. Not necessarily. Not necessarily. No. No. No, Chris. No. I didn't have a contract when I accidentally ran over my neighbor's mailbox. And if I don't pay him, are you telling me that
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That's actual visible, measurable damage. I'm not talking about that kind of situation. I'm talking about where people come up with some theory of law where they want to sue you, and there is no physical damage.
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Okay.
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That would be Again, your your name has your name in all capital letters has nothing to do with that. Well, you I tell you Nothing. I I
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I know, man. I know. It's Patriot Mythology. I hate to tell you this, but it's Patriot Mythology. Here here, Chris, this is what I came up with the other day. What if you took your affidavit and you said, I, Chris, from California, and you put Chris from California in all cap letters, would they accept that affidavit or not?
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I don't know.
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I would.
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I I I wouldn't I wouldn't test them on that. I wouldn't do that.
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Okay. Tell tell us what kind of proof you have of this all cap letter stuff. You've been in this rodeo a while. It's not it's not it's not the capital letters thing. Well, that's what you said. Main thing.
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I did say that as one part of it, but the real part of it is whether or not a corporation can take jurisdiction over a living, breathing man.
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No. Well, it only depends if you got a contract with them.
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That's what I said. That's just In a roundabout
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vague way, we're finally getting there after playing 20 questions. You know, you're being very vague in the very beginning. That's why I'm asking. You gotta be more specific. So, again, let's talk about a corporation in general and I know you you probably believe that The United States is a corporation And that may be true if they sure seem to function kind of in that way. It does come down to not only contracts, but also jurisdiction of whether you're a US citizen or not. So I would and that's not let me back up and say it this way. You have to look at how do they treat non resident aliens because if I'm a non resident alien in respect to the United States government and I'm out here shipping products that I make in Oklahoma and I ship them to California, I'm involved in interstate commerce, I might be subject to federal laws.
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Maybe. I'd have to research it. Yeah. I I think that's questionable. I think that not everything that goes across state lines is necessarily interstate commerce.
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Well, it depends. It depends on who's who's responsible for the shipping. Now here's a little tip. If you're involved in that type of situation, a famous case of that right now is Amos Miller, the Amish farmer. Correct. He's shipping products out of Pennsylvania to other members. And the state of Pennsylvania said they couldn't stop him from doing that, but they could prohibit him from, or I shouldn't say prohibit temporarily prohibit him from selling inside Pennsylvania but they had no jurisdiction to stop him from transferring product into another state. Okay?
So one way around that if you're trying to avoid interstate commerce is that the the buyer is responsible for the shipping from your place to theirs and not the other way. So you're not the responsible party who's shipping the item. You're just selling it wherever you're located and the seller is responsible for transferring it to their location which if it's in another state then it's all on them. Now me as a seller I'm not involved in interstate commerce. The buyer is the one who orchestrated the transfer of that property from my state to their state.
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Well, it's it's actually simpler than that. And I've, I had a company called EasyMover. I moved people all over America. Cool. And I moved for the military also. No DOT number, no commercial license, nothing. And I never had a problem. And there's a reason why. Because the way it was set up, whenever I was transferring anything, I was transporting my own load Yeah. Until I got to the end where I was gonna drop it, then it changed to their load.
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Yeah. Because then it's private property that you're transporting. That's right. Yes. Yeah. I and I know truckers who've done that successfully, actually, very, very successfully for many years.
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And what's interesting about
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hauling They had all the documentation to show that they were what they were carrying was private property. Exactly. Yes. Now, Chris, do you think that if they stopped you, or forced you to into the scales and you were I'm just saying if they did
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Yeah. They did.
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Okay. If you were they did. Okay.
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Hold on. I'm giving you a scenario, Chris. Okay. So so if they pulled you into the scales, even though you're you're private and your truck was overloaded, in other words, you exceeded the weight limit, do you think that they should have the right to give you a ticket?
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I've not I know I was never overloaded.
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Well, I'm just asking you a scenario. They did weigh me. We're we're playing hypothetical for hypothetical.
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That, if if the truck is overloaded, that's that's a problem. That's not responsible. I understand. That's why I'm asking. And under the criminal law, you know, you have to be responsible.
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Right. So so would your status as a national have anything to do with driving an overloaded truck on the road with the public, the general public at large?
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I wouldn't do that.
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Well, I know you wouldn't. But if you were a national and you accidentally overloaded a truck and got stopped and they discovered that you're overloaded, wouldn't you expect them to have the right to issue you a ticket?
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That would never happen.
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Okay. Well, thank you. You're just avoiding the question.
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Chris, Preston,
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if I Mark? If I sin if I sin, I deserve to be judged.
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Okay.
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It's as simple as
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that. Hey, Mark. Well, is there any law on private property? There's no weight limits on the road since there's only for commercial. Right? Right?
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The weight limits. Well, the gross weight limit is right in the door of the truck. Okay. Well, I'm not that's not the question I'm answering,
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Chris. I'm Paul, you were a truck driver. Do, do common people have weight limit restrictions?
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The weight limit is assigned to the vehicle and its maximum safe load carrying capacity and the strain that that vehicle would exert on a public roadway. So they certainly do have the ability to write a ticket for a person, whoever they are, for endangering the public at large and stressing the road they're on. You can't take a 10 ton truck over a five ton bridge, let it collapse, and then walk away from it scot free. You cannot do that. Okay. Well, I just didn't know. It's a honest question. I didn't know. Okay?
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Now Hold on. Let's keep it was go ahead. Hold on, Roger. Keep in mind
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keep in mind if they're driving a big truck like that, they also have a CDL even if they're hauling private property. I yield. Okay.
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Yeah. I didn't.
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I didn't have to have a driver's license. They have to have a CDL to pull haul private property, Mark. That's new to me too.
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And a semi truck?
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Oh, I didn't drive a semi. It was a That's a different scenario then. Yeah. It's a moving truck.
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It's a three Okay. Like a box like a big box truck. Like a U Haul box truck. Exactly. Yes. Gotcha. Gotcha. Exactly.
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It was a beacon's truck. It was a beacon truck that I bought from beacons.
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Alright. Cool. That's a little different scenario.
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So does a person have in a U Haul, they rent a U Haul, and and do they have to stop at the scales?
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No. No.
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Okay. So Alright. That's interesting. Mirka, you were trying to say something?
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Me, Roger. I was just gonna ask well, you guys went on a little bit. So I was just gonna say when it's a private carrier and you're carrying your personal property, they have no say on what you're doing. As long in of course, the national needs to, travel responsibly and honorably. But I wanted to hear what Chris was gonna share because I I think he was were, he has, like, a story or something to tell us about his thoughts on what he's doing on this lawsuit.
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And it would be good to hear. I'll tell you yeah. I'll tell you something that I've done. I've done it for many years. Chris, talk right in your microphone, Chris. Talk right in your microphone. You're you're always really faint. Now?
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Well, a little bit better, but still faint. Go ahead. It's early in the morning. I'm barely awake. What do you want? Okay. Okay. Sorry.
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Well, are you on speaker phone or a headset or what? Okay.
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Move that speaker a little closer to you. Okay. How's that? Is that better? Better. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Have you heard of the refuse for cause without dishonor?
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Yes.
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Yeah. It's worked every time for me.
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Refuse for cause.
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Without dishonor? I haven't heard,
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yeah, I haven't heard it, but can you explain it? Two two UCC codes Okay.
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Got it. That you put on it you put it diagonally across whatever it is you received or whatever it is they give you, traffic citation, anything, immediately, you send it back by registered mail only. No. No. Not certified mail. Yeah. It won't work. Registered mail. And they might try to send it back to you a second time. You send it right back to them immediately again, and it'll just disappear.
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Awesome. But, I mean, you said that there was gonna be a lawsuit or something. What are you gonna take them to court or something for that?
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No. I don't I avoid the court like a plague. Okay. So you're doing registered mail? I do everything administratively. Yeah. I'm very successful with administrative law procedures with countermeasures administrative countermeasures. And you require things of them that they can't give you and they go away.
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Well, yeah. You're you're using your private power, your the power of paper and your notices or whatever it is that you're sending them affidavits.
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Notices. Yes. Always notices. Public notices. Yeah. Verified jurisdictional challenge, and a list of questions that they can't answer.
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Right.
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Having having to do with, their their authority, having to do with their connections to their own commercial enterprise that they are corporation and have a Dun and Bradstreet number. And, also the, so they have a conflict of interest and also their oath of office.
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Awesome. Yeah.
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That's what you do. They go right for their neck. They never come back.
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You handle it in the private, and
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they just don't know what to do with that. As as a Exactly. Living breathing man upon the land, not as one of their slaves. Right. Right. Exactly.
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Right. Yeah. I agree with
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you. Good job. It's worked every time. I do That's awesome. Too. It works every time.
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Well, that's great. If you're having repeatable success, not only for yourself but for other people, then I'd say you're on the right track. Over a thirty year period, by the way. Oh, cool. Because a lot of people that's hit or miss. You know? But, again, if you're having repeatable success with every person that you're assisting with what you're, refused say that again. Refuse for cause without Refuse for cause. For cause. Thank you. Yeah. Refuse for cause with what was it? Objection? Without dishonor. Without dishonor. My mistake. I'm sorry. I didn't write that down. But, you know, if if, again, if you're having repeatable success, not only for yourself, but also with other people, then, you know, hey. I think you are definitely onto something big.
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Well, I'm not I'm not the sole, originator of this. Bob Schafer had a lot to do with it. Yeah. Even, Richard McDonald had a lot to do with it. Yeah. But I went I went beyond where they both were and added things that I learned from a couple of other very sharp people as
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well. Because you have to stay on the right side of the fence all the time. Right. Well Thank you. Again, again, Chris, in fourteen years, we've never had one of those situations come up to my knowledge around here. And, and just probably status has a lot to do with the that procedure too, I would imagine.
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Yes. It does. You declare the status right up front. Even though I didn't have paperwork in and so forth, is the Supreme Court said you are who you say you are. So that's what we've been saying. No. No. You get no. The
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the the only way that you can do it is have an affidavit on file with the with the, secretary of state. That that's that appellate level. Unless the I r unless a person can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, the IRS can move on to assessment and collection. There's only one way to prove it. You can't do it at the district court level. You can't do it in paperwork. You can claim it. It's just not legitimate. Well, that goes back to 1835 Supreme Court case, Chris.
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. Yep. Didn't matter what the passport is. It's an ex parte document. The only thing that matters, especially if it's a judicial question, is what paperwork is in possession of the secretary. That's almost 200 years old.
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Yeah. I agree with you. No. I didn't always know that, but I agree with you at this point.
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Well, it's just agreeing with the facts. I mean, that's I never found that case. Some wonderful listener sent it to me. Thank you very much, whoever you are. Know about it. Well, it's on the website. On your site? Yes. Good. Yeah. I've got Yep. I wanna go take a look. Well, it's the one that nobody can ever pronounce. Ubute Ubuteetu v d r c, d hyphen a r c y.
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Roger, you're you're you're the affidavit having it on file with secretary of state, of DC makes you the authority, and we're the private individual now. And what Chris just shared is an example of what we can do living in the private
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and, protecting themselves and defending themselves. All that stuff he went out is for the guy that's still a slave.
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They're not in the private yet. They they're trying to impose their federal regulations on a private individual, and that's just not gonna work. When you're living responsibly and honorably, it should
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you should be able to handle it that way. As I said, we've been teaching people this stuff for fourteen years, and not one instance of that's ever come up. So
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that's what it is. Great example. K? So, Thanks, Chris.
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Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Chris. Anybody got anything to add to that discussion?
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You could try it on your next traffic ticket, but you have to be very prompt.
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Okay.
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Yep. I agree.
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Well, of course, what we do is always encourage people to have all their, you know, maintain your vehicle, make sure your lights aren't out or any of that other crap that they can pull you over for and drive under the speed limit. You'll probably never have any of these problems. K? And for the a lot of the people that do go through this process, man, they don't wanna go to court, you know? And we try our best we can to keep you out of there. Everybody always wants to use court as an example, but we honestly try and keep you out of there. And very few of our people ever have to get in there. And where where does it always come from?
Traffic. So anybody else got something they want to, talk about today? Yeah. Hey. There's old Samuel. Hey, man. How you doing?
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Hi. Good. What Christmas? I just wanted to say something about the name. If you if if you go to Stamper's book, Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, at the end of the book, he has a summary. It's five pages long. Right. Three pages are dedicated to just the name and why it's important. And, of course, we've got the example of Randy Lee disputing it with the IRS in court and district court along with his you know, it's a major, major thing, but along with everything else. And the judge doesn't just dismiss the case. He says next case. That's because there wasn't a case, and Randy proved it because he wasn't in their jurisdiction, because he wasn't claiming the name, he wasn't claiming that he worked for any of their entities, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Okay. Because, Samuel, let me ask you the question I asked Chris a minute ago. If you submitted an affidavit and his same were from California in all cap letters, would they accept that or would they send it back?
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I would never do it.
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Well, that's not the question. I'm trying to smoke something else out here, which is this all cap letters crap. If you send an affidavit in saying you were a national and you put your name in all caps, would they accept it? Isn't that the question? Isn't that where the rubber meets the isn't that where the rubber meets the road? When I apply
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when I apply for my passport, I'm gonna make it a point of contention that they spell my name in a Christian manner. Okay. And I'll tell them how to spell it. Alright. Now that's in the record. Now if that changes the numbers on that passport, we might know something.
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May I? Yes. If you send in an affidavit in your whole camp's name, the secretary of state, is not going to send you a letter back saying, sorry. You used all capitals. That is a United States citizen, and you can't do that. But they're never gonna do that. No. They're They're never gonna challenge the fact that you you sent in an affidavit in all capital letters.
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Yeah. I'm telling you, you cannot get that out of people's minds. Once it's in there, you can't get it out.
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Come on, folks. Let's be real about this. Show me the law. Show me a case, an opinion from a higher level court that specifically says that your name in all capital letters is some type of corporate entity.
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Find one on a national. I'll give I'll give you Find one on a national. I'll give you something from a higher court. Can I wait a minute, please?
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Can you let well, if you'll waive your order, you can. Let let let Chris Okay. Fill in the debts.
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What higher court, Chris? If you walk through a cemetery if you walk through a cemetery and look at the tombstones, you have your answer.
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Okay. Alright. Gary. Alright. Thanks, Chris. Did did you find a court case that's got that in it, by the way? Who was the other person trying to say something? That was Gary. Well, you folks, I'm telling you. You get this stuff in people's minds, and I've told you, it you can't get it out of there with 20 with a team of 20 mule, team borax pulling on it. Gary, what's your, observation here?
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If you study the law of agency, you'll find out that you're acting as the agent for the all caps name. Simplest way to prove that is look on your checking account at the microprint underneath the signature line. You are the agent and you accept agency responsibility for that all cap name. Your name, your Christian name, and the all cap name are two separate entities. However, when you sign to something that's got an all caps name, you're acting as the agent for that individual, that entity.
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That's all I got. How do you like my idea, Gary, of sending in an affidavit with your name in all caps and see if they reject it or accept it? How about that?
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They're gonna accept it. It's your choice. You're still acting in the the status of an agent, whether you send it in in all caps, lower caps, lower initial. It doesn't matter. You're acting for as an agent for that entity. Okay. Period. I wanna tell you.
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And this is Oh. If I may, Roger,
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this is from Stanford. He said under legal name. And and when he's talking legal, he's talking common law. Under common law consists of one Christian name and one surname, and the insertion omission or mistake in the middle name
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or an initial
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is immaterial. The legal name of the individual consists of the given baptismal name usually assumed at birth and a surname deriving from the common name of the parents. Black's Law's Dictionary, page eight ninety six. So demanding a a common law Christian name puts you in law, not outside of it. When you have that all caps state, you're outside of the law. You you don't have the protections of even being what you were born, and they later change. And now Stanford's summary goes through and including what what Gary just said. That summary is only five pages. It's all you gotta read. And if you wanna take this in a court of law, a fair trial, there's so much evidence here that I can't see how you could refute any of it. A lot of it's from Black's Law. He's got two sites from Black's Law in here. I mean, I think you're tempting the whole system to be a national and then remain in their jurisdiction by using the all caps name. That's, I think, what the mistake is.
You're making a voluntary thing against what you're saying you're not.
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That's all. Thank you. It's contract.
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Hey, Roger?
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Yes. Danny. I don't think that's Danny. Right?
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Yeah. Another another thing, I think would be related to that is a friend of mine was telling me about some years ago, he's putting in for a new bank account, and he goes through the whole thing. And then at the signature line, they have the x at the start of the line. They scribbled the x out and signed it. And after a little while, the clerk came back and said, they wanted him to to do do it again. So he did, and he got the signature line. He scribbled out the x and signed it and turned it in and, came back and told him that if he kept doing that, they weren't gonna give him an account. So that's like he's the witness for the incompetent or the whatever it is, that's taken out the bank account like an officer for a corporation.
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Okay.
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Roger, do you remember when when, Joe Lustica went ahead and copyrighted the names that he wanted to use? Very smart. All of a sudden, the court totally changed its its opinion about Joe.
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Well, the first few times, they changed the the way they addressed him. They they changed the name on the paperwork, and then they just gave up because he just kept on trademarking every name they would use.
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Could I add something or
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kinda Yes. Who are you first? Yes. Who are you, first of all?
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George, I'd have.
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Oh, hey, George. Talk right in the phone, please.
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Yeah. I'm gonna take a so, Chris, I was curious if you had, any,
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dealing with your toast. In that.
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George, talk right in talk right in the microphone, please. You're still very polite.
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If if you had any dealings with mortgage service companies and, and using any kind of, any kind of, methods around that, you know, returning with with without dishonor. Are you?
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I I have I I've heard about that. I haven't tried that yet. I might have an opportunity here in the near future.
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Great. Thank you.
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Okay.
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We got our West Coast morning voices over here. Sorry.
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Yeah. Well, Chris is almost Chris is always kind of faint. You know? Go ahead, Chris. Go ahead.
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Well, you know, for years, I was with Capitol Records touring around The United States, and we I didn't go to bed till sunup.
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Yeah.
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So you know what that's all about. Yep.
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Sure do.
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So, But I like the show so much. I I like to make sure I get up. Okay.
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I doze off halfway through and wake back up again. Right. Well, I know it's a little tough on the left coasters out there, and, it'll get better here around November. I if in fact we have daylight savings time anymore, there was a rumor that Trump had executive ordered it out. So I don't know where we stand on the, time change now.
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Oh, that would just screw everything up. People are too used to it. That would that would do what, Paul? That would screw everything up. People are too used to complaining about it.
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Well, it's been a real pain in the butt for me, but, whatever. I'd just sleep an hour later. I That's because think it's a pain in the butt, but I think in the winter, it wouldn't get light until about 09:00 in the morning if we don't do it. And that would equally be quite weird.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, I live on the Equator. It's the same all the time. So, it's just that I have to shift my whole schedule because they don't change here. Right. So, anyway, well, what else can we, kick around this morning?
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Well, I've got something.
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Okay.
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Couple of days ago, I talked about, like, dissension between the ranks and things like that, and, we were in another room last night. We were talking about it. And, basically, what has happened is, throughout the course of the Radio Ranch history in the preshow and the aftershow discussions, there could be, personality conflicts. There could be people having bad days that cause riffs, that cause people to leave and, like, set up another room. And, basically, that didn't support the group. Well, then recently, there was a, misunderstanding, a a personality conflict, a clash that even caused a separation from one of the separated rooms.
And Good lord. I'm going, okay. No. We can't do this. You know? Like, the solution to people getting along is not just creating a million little sub places where people can kinda hide in their hide out, you know, you know
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Yeah. You off there, you're by yourself. Hell, I guess you don't have anybody to not get get along with. So here's the deal.
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I am I am giving an open invitation Okay. For everyone that has used any other rooms, because of the conflict, the clash, or whatever. I am inviting them back into the main room, and I'm talking effective 6AM to midnight. The and we will just take our lumps, and we'll figure it out as we go along. But the strength of the group and the message and being available for new people that could come and go and not find someone in the main room to answer a question, we can't do that. That that can't happen. And we have to learn how to be indivisible as a group because that's what the bad guys wanna do is divide us. And if we let them accomplish that, they win.
We don't They don't they don't
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even have to to make an effort. We can't get along with each other as a community. For hell, I've been dealing with it for thirty something years. Yeah. God said we're a stiff necked people. And, boy, I'm gonna tell you, if the patriots are his people, they're stiff necked.
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Yeah. Well, there is and the most recent separation, okay, the most recent division, left people that remained missing person, missing their input, missing their value. And, it it started we we started with a discussion, well, how do we bring this person back? Okay? How do we how do we make make allowances or or make a place for this person to come back to our group? And then we just decided, well, wait a minute. What the hell? Why fix segregation? Do away with it. So that is why the open invitation now stands for everybody to congregate in PPN Radio Ranch.
The main FCC room from 6AM to midnight. Come on down. Knock yourselves out. Let's figure out how to get along. And that was the only thing I had.
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Kinda run you from Saturday. To learn a little tolerance. Sorry, Roger.
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That's alright. That's alright. I still, you see, I keep going back to this all caps thing that people just keep beating on and beating on. Does if if I've got an affidavit on file and something and they and I got a document with all caps, does that override my affidavit? It
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it depends. Absolutely not.
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Well, no. It depends on it. If if that all caps name is on a contract and you signed it agreeing to the terms of that contract, well, hell yes. You're acting as the agent.
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Well, I'll bet if you went back and acted with them after that in your in in your other capacity, that would not never come up. That does not cause jurisdiction, and I just I'm amazed. I'm just amazed on that. Oh. My my experience is honestly over all these years, with all these things that I call and and and look at as patriot mythology, once that's in somebody's head, man, it's almost impossible to get it out of there. Well, here's the deal. Look at Brian Howard. Look at Brian Howard still thinking that the birth certificate causes everything.
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Okay. Alright. He's been for a long time. There's always a restricted signature by colon your name
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Oh, boy. Or,
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and then the all caps name. Oh. Go for it. I mean, that's that is that sets you up as as the agent, but not responsible for that name. Hey. Attorneys sign their documents by colon their name dot dot dot.
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Why? Why would they do that? Well, I've never seen that, Paul, ever. So Roger. Sherry. Just, so okay. Yeah. Well, let let's go see what Dave's got to offer here. Where's Sherry been? We've been here in a long time. Yeah. Dave. Your affidavit in all caps. What now? Start again.
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It's your affidavit in all caps.
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What about it? Was mine? Yeah. No. Why not? Well, because I just go on with my life the way I always have. I've never signed my name. All they're saying.
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Our name isn't in all caps. It never was. Our our parents didn't name us in all caps. Why would the government name us in all caps? They have to have a purpose for that. It's not just to trick us into thinking that, oh, let's send them down this little rabbit hole over here. You know? No. They have a absolute
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purpose for it. And and so does that does that give them jurisdiction?
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Only an alternative to answer that.
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Well, why not?
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Because I don't have all the answers. But I know I would not send my affidavit in all capital name
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because I've I've never signed my name in all capital letters. But but the example is through them to say, no. This is all capital. You can't be free. That's what I'm trying to get out of you people with this example. If you put your name in all caps and put it on affidavit, would they accept it or would they reject it?
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They would probably accept it.
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They have to. Because the minions the minions
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that work for the government, they are the government, and they do what what you know, they're they're not I don't believe that they're looking at that. Oh, hey. Here's all caps, you know, affidavit. I'm guaranteed. Handle this special.
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I just about guarantee you they're not.
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Right. They don't know their behinds from a hole in the ground. They just are working for a job, you know, for the money, and they think they're the government. Now some of them might like the guy who called that guy in New York and said, hey, you know, your your wife's, a US citizen, you know, whatever. Right? But the guy knew what he was talking about, so it it was already in the mail when they when he bought them. So I I do believe that that all capital name, they use it for a purpose. I don't know exactly what it is, but I know it's nefarious.
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Okay. Mirka, you got your way in. Is nefarious. You wanna weigh in, Mirka? I yeah. I'll just Chris.
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I was I was thinking, maybe me as an agent can send in the affidavit for my all caps name and make it a national.
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Is straw man quivering over in the corner? No. I He's about to ask I thought Mark, is he having orgasms or what? I thought that very thing, like, fifteen minutes ago. What if you filed an affidavit in the all caps name for the all caps name? Make it a natural with a private all caps name. Touche, Myrka. Oh, and by the way, the answer about Sherry, she's indisposed. She's fine. And that, attorney signing documents, by calling their name dot dot dot. She worked for attorneys as a legal secretary, and they always always sign their documents that way. She she testified to that, years ago.
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Okay. But I I wanna And think I can Brent if he signs his stuff that way next Friday?
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I asked him on a show. I gave him the specific example, and he said, yeah. That is the most correct way to sign.
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He said it. I I must thought I must not have been there because I didn't hear that. Do what, Lisa? I always thought it just meant they're always yelling at us because you know the all caps signifies you're yelling. Yes. Right. Correct. So so they're always just all these government and these corporations, they're always yelling at us. Yeah. I wonder if Janet signed her name in all caps.
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You know? Janet Yellen?
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Okay. Well, I I I oh, okay. Gotcha. Hopefully, she won't be hopefully, she won't be signing her name at all for very long.
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This this is Chris. I have a question.
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Alright, Chris. Come on.
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Okay. Someone mentioned about reading the last five pages of Stamper's book. Is that cracking the code?
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No. That wasn't Stamper. That was a bartender from Seattle. To the poisonous tree.
[00:59:27] Unknown:
True to the poisonous tree. Okay. Thank you.
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Could we adopt the all caps name?
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Do what? Adopt the all caps. I'm I'm sorry. Some of y'all have got really poor phone connections, and we just can't hear you, or I can't many times anyway. So that's why it's like, duh. Could could you ask the question again? I think it was George. Right?
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Yes. I was gonna say, could we adopt the all caps name as a ministry? It's a person. We're not supposed to be persons in the Bible,
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but we could adopt it and turn it into a ministry. Plate. Not not don't don't start with that Bill Richardson crap.
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As long as you don't have to send it to college.
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It says not to be persons in the Bible. Right, George? Is that Bill Richardson? Than adoption.
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That's different than adoption.
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I I don't I don't know about adoption. It says, just stay away from persons who are evil. That's what that guy quoted to me on the radio show from his book saying you don't wanna be a person. He doesn't have any idea what a legal person is. And if you're gonna say that, then I we need you and I need to go back, and let's go over that because you clearly don't understand it.
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He was talking about adopting the cap's name. Roman
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Roman adoption of the slave. It's a slave. It's all in caps. That's, everybody in Rome was all in caps when they're slave. My own father, Roman Catholic educated, always printed in all caps. It's, like, ingrained in people. It's cultural. It's like it's probably in the styles, man.
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Well, all I know is it doesn't have any effect on the secretary of state accepting that affidavit. To my knowledge, we've never had any example one way or the other of it. They've always accepted them. So, in my mind, there's no connection there. I know some of you just can't get that splinter out of your mind, but I don't know what to do about it. K? So you if that's the way you feel, you go on feel that way. That's fine. But does it have any effect on if my document if my passport has all cap letters on it and I've got the affidavit on file, that it doesn't override it.
The affidavit in the secretary's possession is what matters, period. It doesn't matter if if how the hell they do my name. So, anyway, if y'all wanna go along with that, great. My I I don't put much credence in it, personally.
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You wanted a spicy Saturday. Here we are.
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Boy, I guess. What about the gold French flag? Can we pull that up and discuss it too?
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Only if it's in all caps. Or only if it has an eagle on the top.
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Alright. Has to have an eagle. Yeah. This is a close look. Roger.
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Do what now? Heard of the book? Have any anybody ever heard of the book entitled The Law of Names?
[01:02:45] Unknown:
No. Randy Lee used it a lot. Somewhere I have a copy of it, and it goes into detail about some of these things. Alright. Well, why not somebody put it Paul, you're good at that. The law of making sure. Can you see if we can find a copy of that? Good morning, Julie. We'll look for it. Sketch was cursed. Alright, sketch. We buried you. Hold on, girls. Hold on. Sketch was there. Yes, sir. I don't know if,
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I don't know if this was
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done. I just wanted to say that, it's the relationship to the identity that I think is the problem because Christians have a Christian name, and they don't identify with the all caps name because it's not a Christian name. So it's identity. Like, just like the, the Christian identity feature that we had on our Pastor p p pastor Pete Peters is who we were talking about. Yeah. I just I think it's it's it has it's the relationship, of the identity. Now they do use identity to to, identify us in the passport. So I think there's there's that, the rub. I yield.
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I yield. Yes. Now there are two or three gals trying to say something. Let's go back to Julie. She'd been new, and she's hanging there. Julie.
[01:04:06] Unknown:
Morning. Hi. So I wanna say that there is definitely something regarding the all caps name, and I know we don't like to discuss this. But here's the We've been talking about it for an hour, so go ahead. I know. Well, you go to go look at you go look at your the the the woman this goes back to the birth certificate trust. The woman, the man born in The United States created an estate upon their birth. And so your you have an agency agreement between yourself, your living self, and the British crown, the Vatican, and the bar members.
And, your birth cert and and so an estate was the lifetime labor value of you in your all caps letter. So, a trust was created where your estate was placed in trust with the United States Attorney General operating as the alien property custodian pursuant to trading with the enemy act. Ever since, president Franklin d Roosevelt. So your all caps letters is represent representative of the estate and the trust. And, we are the grantor, the trustor, the beneficiary, the executor, of and the signatory for the all caps name, which is our estate and trust. So and the birth certificate is the representative certificate of said deposit, which connects to the American Depository Receipt System, which is all about our corporation being a bankrupt since day one.
And it all connects and you can go look at Title 31, Code of Federal Regulations three sixty three, which has, all of our legacy accounts where we bank. And and this all goes back to all of the SESTA KB trust accounts that we've been discussing in the SESTA case of '22, Roger. Sorry. I mean, this this stuff exists. This is real.
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Alright. What does it have to do with us filing an affidavit and get free?
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Tell me, please. I knew you were gonna ask me that. There well, I mean, when it comes to jurisdictions and stuff and you go into a court and, on your court papers and all that stuff that you get, your name is an all caps letter versus you as a living, breathing woman. It's there it's it's, again, like what Samuel was talking about here. In the Stanford's book, it discusses all this stuff in fruit from a poisonous tree. What does it have to do with jurisdiction? I think I don't know the answers like he says to everything, but I think it has something to do with jurisdiction
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depending on what the situation is. Oh, well, alright. What does it have to do with us filing an affidavit? That's what I care about because that's what I teach, and I don't care about one bit of that other shit you just went over. Not one.
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Okay. It has never affected you. Filing an affidavit. I don't think it has anything to do with that, but I think you when you put yourself in the as as a as a national Uh-huh. And So your and your look. Even Matt even Matt in California went to the courts and corrected his name from his all caps to lowercase. Look at what Joe left the pen when he's trademarking his name as Samuel brought up or somebody else did. This all caps name does have something to do with you being born, dead at sea. They took they they took your big performance bonds and big performance bonds in your name. They create securities out of that all caps name. They they they they attach ten ninety nine a's to your tax returns when you submit them and are creating securities in your name without your permission when they're not securities dealers and signing, stuff, creating identity fraud. We've discussed this on the show yesterday at the after show at great length. Okay. I'm glad I missed it.
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The after show is the place for it.
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Yep. I don't know. You have some group members that were all together on this stuff. Rogers, the weekend. That's that's alright with me. I I don't I just don't I don't see the connection,
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and I I don't recognize it. I don't wanna hear it. You start bringing all that crap on, there's somebody new here, you just lost them. I've tried tried for fifty years to make places as simple as possible so that it can be spread faster and new people can uptake it. You start throwing that crap you've been going over for the last five minutes, they're done.
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Well, I don't think any of us ever I don't think any of us ever recommended this when it came to new students, Roger. I'm just saying that, your, your all caps name doesn't have anything to do with you becoming a national. You're correct about that. But it still intertwines with all of this stuff that they've done unlawfully towards us where they, you know, we had to rebut a presumption, and they Okay. They just threw us through the fourteenth amendment without us
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Oh, somebody's trying to talk over. You can't talk over other people. That's right. Okay? If you hadn't learned that yet, learn it. Alright? Mark, is is straw man over in the corner flatlining or what?
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This is a new listener.
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Oh god. Please please disregard everything you're hearing.
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Yes. Roger, thank you for thank you for thank you for that because
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that was blowing me away. Yes. Alright. Point point point excuse me, new listener. Point made. Point made. Okay. Sir, what's your name? Where are you in the country? And how did you find us? Is that it's not Christian again, is it? Yeah. It is.
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Oh. Yes. Yes. It's Christian Christian Hansen.
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Hey, Christian.
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I joined the club, Julie. Roger.
[01:10:41] Unknown:
Join the club, Julie. Join the club, Julie.
[01:10:44] Unknown:
The Ferris shut up, bro.
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We've gotten rid of you. I mean, can't you go find another program? I'll be quiet. Thank you. Are you Christian? Are you? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Well, what you just said that was go thanks for stopping that discussion. Right?
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Yes. Yes. Yes. God bless you.
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Thank you, sir. Was my was my, assessment right that people like that, it just you wanna just go away because it's so confusing and overwhelming?
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Yes. Yes.
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Yes. That was that was wonderful. That was Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Okay, Christian. Now if you wanna if you wanna test the waters here, if you I don't know if you filed an affidavit or not or yet, but when you do, put your name in all capital letters, and let's see if they refuse it.
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Okay. Okay. Well
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because you're playing both sides of the fence there.
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I I would I would go either way you the way you said. I would stick with I would stick with the wisdom.
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Yeah. That's a contentious issue. There's a couple of those out there. This girlfriend, Flyads, is one of them. The birth certificate is another one. That was Tim Tim whatever his name was. He used to go around from city to city in the middle of Turner in the middle of the night. And, they said that's a b e r t h certificate because you're a a a ship sailing on the land. Please disregard all that crap. Please. I saw an I saw an interview I saw an interview with a guy named Billy out in California on Arizona who had bought that crap hook, line, and sinker. And a sheriff's department guy came up to his fence and talked to him at the gate about something, and he was starting to spout that crap. And he ended up getting shot and killed dead by that sheriff's department.
K? It's just, for for something that wrong and that much bullshit, this guy lost his life, and he had a family with young children. K? Wow. That's why I get so agitated at this. Does it have anything to do with what we're doing that's been proven over and over and over again for fourteen years fourteen and a half years now? It doesn't have anything to do with this. K? It may be interesting. You wanna go speculate on it. Okay. So if I've got because I don't correct it. So my passport with my name in all caps, the is it not is it not right? Am I not a national?
No.
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Man, I I'm a listener. I'm just I'm just learning what I can, bro.
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It doesn't make a damn bit of difference. And the reason is an 1835 case that came up a minute ago, the site's on the website, Ubudu two, as best I can say it, v d hyphen r c eighteen thirty five. It's what paperwork is in the possession of the secretary, which is the higher and better evidence and should be introduced in a court of law. That's what it says. Almost 200 years old. Before Wow. There was a second status. There wasn't a second status. That was before the civil war. K? So, anyway, it's contentious. It could be argued back and forth. There's, I just don't know. I know it doesn't have any bearing on what we do. Now you see, here's the thing. I had a chance to challenge this in Argentina, Samuel.
And it was because after the accident, when all my stuff, including my passport, was stolen by Americans, by the way, I had to get a new passport to apply for and open my Social Security account, which I needed to do because I was tired of selling gold. K? And so, but I did not have it's an interesting story. I did not have a original copy of my birth certificate. Now I'd only had this passport that got stolen in two years. So anything that was given to them, like the original copy of a birth certificate, etcetera, should have been on file.
But when I've ran into this problem of not being able to open Social Security my Social Security account because I didn't have a passport, and I couldn't get a passport because I didn't have a, original copy of my birth certificate, and they would not accept a JPEG or a picture. They had to have the original. And I told the girl, I said, you mean Obama doesn't have this is right when Obama stuff is going on. Obama doesn't have to have a a damn birth certificate, and I do? Yeah. That's right. And so, anyway Wow. I I yeah. Yeah. No kidding. And so, finally, I applied for it, and I got it. Now where I was, there wasn't a DHL store.
And the embassies all exclusively use DHL to and fro. They want you to use it too. So when I had to send all that stuff, I had to go a 150 miles up to Mendoza City and go poking around up there until I found the damn DHL sore. And, so I go up there and get it. And when they send it back, I I had to go up there to get it. And so, that's about a three hour bus ride each way. And so, I I get up there and I open it up, and it's got the stuff in all caps. Now there's a form where if they've made a mistake on your passport, you can do this form and send it back and request to change.
But I wanted to get that damn Social Security open, and I wasn't gonna even quibble over, argument with them if there would have been one or the extra time that it took to submit it from Argentina all the way up there to see if they'd take my all caps name and make it lower and upper case. So I had a chance to change that. And because of the situation, I I preferred to get my Social Security account open. K? So but, I I don't think it would have made any difference. And you can go back with your passport. If any of you wanna try this, you can take your passport and find out what form that is and send it back to them and say you want your name in lower and upper case. See if they do it.
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Okay. That sounds that sounds good.
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So, Christian, you got any questions or anything? Well, you're a new guy. We wanna hear from you. You're the reason we're here, really.
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So what can we help you with? Well, I have I have I have you know, y'all y'all kinda broke the ice yesterday when he was talking about trust, and I know that's your class coming up. I wanna get that I wanna get in into that class because I don't want I don't wanna lose I don't wanna lose anything that I have. And then, if there's a way, you know, and it was talking about, what a trust was not going to it has to be done a certain way by mister Winters. A certain way. We're we're talking about, you know, a load of your titles, I guess, or
[01:18:43] Unknown:
something that No. No. Not necessarily. Now let me make something clear for you. We got two trust people going on here. Mark, who's with us today, is with us from Oklahoma City. He's our paralegal, and he started doing trust classes couple of months ago. He's I think he's in a second class. And then, folks that found that that are a little more restricted in their finances, wanted to see if Brent would set up a class for them too at a little bit cheaper price. So we got two of these things going on. Okay?
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Yes, sir. Alright.
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That's what I wanna I wanna really interested in that. I know
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I have a real good friend that's probably gonna be in touch with y'all pretty soon. She has done everything she is. They've tried to take her land away from her. She's been fighting this land patent. Her land patent was her land patent was
[01:19:39] Unknown:
all the way back from uh-oh. You wanna say something about I was just gonna say, no. There's other people. Samuel's into that. A couple of people are into that. You're talking about a loyal title stuff. And, it's it's not something we really cover because it doesn't really pertain to everybody. There are certain people that pursue it. And, you say it sounds like what she's doing. Is that why they're trying to take her land away from her? They don't wanna recognize it or what?
[01:20:05] Unknown:
Yeah. They don't wanna recognize it. Okay. She's also, done her, her land now in trust, with gold and silver.
[01:20:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I don't know about any of that, but I know it's very difficult to get a loyal tile recognized. It's I know it can be done because I met a guy in Oregon who did it, and, there's a whole story we've got on that. But, it's exceedingly difficult, and you gotta have every I dotted and every t crossed Boom. And really know what you're doing. Okay? Who was, who was our guy that did that did a loyal title that had the heart attack a while back out there out West? Is he okay? Did he die? Does anybody know? I think it was Daniel Fish you're referring to? No. No. No. It was the the the Okay. Guy the guy that fell. Samuel, who's your guy out there for a loyal title?
Oh, Samuel. Ron Gibson. Thank you. Ron a guy named Ron Gibson was helping people, had been for a while. He I thought somebody said he had a heart attack a while back. I don't know of his disposition. But, he was probably about the best in the country at it. Here, let Samuel add his 2¢. Samuel?
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Yeah. Ron is particularly on land patents, but the allodial, claim is a different animal. That comes by inheritance.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Well, that was just two things I mentioned. Yeah. Okay. That you you straighten that up real quick. So, yeah, she'd been fighting with her land before her land was there before Texas was a
[01:21:58] Unknown:
Through and through and through inheritance, Christian?
[01:22:03] Unknown:
Yes. She's American.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
No. No. Did she have inheritance to the land from her family that owned it back then? Is there a clear chain of title to her?
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Clear chain of title.
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From the original land And chain of people. Chain of title puts you in the land patent, then the elodial, it it should be you can't really buy the elodial. It has to come through inheritance. So in the book in the book of the hundreds, they're saying that you can take that inheritance through Jesus Christ.
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Wow. Powerful, man.
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Okay. Samuel, did you inherit your land?
[01:22:42] Unknown:
No. Okay.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
It's they're like I said, Christian, there's a few people that are interested in this. It's probably not the majority of the audience. We talk about it occasionally. Nobody Samuel's been trying to get it done out there in California. How many years you've been trying to get that done, Samuel?
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Well, it's not that I've been working on it, you know, continuously. But in 02/2010, I made an attempt and, but I was still property. And so that's why I'm redoing it, Roger, because of you. It's all your fault.
[01:23:16] Unknown:
Thank you. Well, I'll accept I'll accept full responsibility for that.
[01:23:23] Unknown:
Anyway, it's a I wanted to I wanted to pass a case on to Mark that I would like him to get into and take a look at. Yeah.
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Mark, are you still with us, or do we do we drive you away, or are you still there?
[01:23:38] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure he left when Ferris spoke up. He does that. I wish he wouldn't.
[01:23:44] Unknown:
Well, let me figure out if there's such a wonderful effect on my audience.
[01:23:49] Unknown:
Ah. It's called Hansen versus Deckler. Deckler or d e n c k l a. It it says it deals with the fourteenth amendment jurisdiction. The trust in dispute was a private trust set up according according, to public municipal law for private purposes in the state of Delaware without any third party relationship. This is from Bros, and, I think it probably would be an interesting thing for Mark to take a look at.
[01:24:26] Unknown:
What what kind of case is it? Appellate level, Supreme Court, district, what?
[01:24:36] Unknown:
Well, let me go go go to where the site is
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because he's got reference here as a Samuel Samuel, it was a it was regarding personal jurisdiction in the context of assets held in the trust.
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And Hansen versus Deckla, 357 US
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335. 33519 19 458. Alright. Supreme Court. Yep. Held by The US. That's US reporter. Okay. Cool. But is that it the the determined with somebody's personal status who was interacting with a trust was what was the setup for the case? Circumstances?
[01:25:19] Unknown:
Let me see here. Julie just gave it to you. The fourteenth amendment jurisdiction, it says the trust in dispute was a private trust set up according to public municipal law for private purposes in the state of Delaware without a cert any third party relationship. Okay. And it's it's it's how did your see, the the claim that Stamper's making on that upper case name, basically, Roger, is that's a trust, and they have part ownership in it, the the the government. Right? And And what's that? Yes. And it's inequity. It's not in law. So they enter into our our business through that trust.
So,
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anyway, I'll just leave it at that. We've talked enough about it. Anyway, Christian, we got two very, very exceptionally competent people that do these. Mark, who's a paralegal, gives really hands on classes. We don't know how how Brent has already set his up from the standpoint that the lectures on the trust are already on his website, k, that he did a while back. Alright? So, Mark takes you in a little I I think he's a little more hand holding, and and whatnot. If he was here, he could explain the difference, but he's not. And, and then they're just in the, initial stages of setting up some sort of a class with Brent. So I'm not sure how the two compare head to head, but there's two different schools, and both of them are exceptionally competent. You could do one or both. Okay?
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You know, Roger, it was mentioned this morning by Paul. I'm kinda thinking Paul might be off doing something right now. Yeah. But he said Mark he thinks Mark wants to, do Brent's.
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Yeah. He does. So I don't know if just for, like, a cross reference or something. But Let's give let me give, Christian here a little more background because I had a, a listener. Well, she's been on with us here recently a few times, Robbie. And she wrote me an email and said, could you ask Brent to if if he knows any attorneys that he could recommend that, that for me to get a trust written? A fair question. And Brent came back. He said, no. And and and the a lot of the reason for that is because you I don't know how long you've been in this rodeo, this Patriot stuff, but at least for thirty three years, there's been people hawking trusts throughout the community.
And, the problem with it is you're putting a lot of, hopefully, valuable property one or the other in this trust. And if so, you wanna make damn sure there's no loopholes and it's written correctly. Right? Yes. Christian? Okay. Definitely. Well well, how do you know that if you don't know about trust yourself? You're just gonna go hire an attorney? How do you know he hadn't written something in or whatnot? I'll give you an example. We talked about touched on it, the other day. South Dakota has become a real beacon from all over the world for people doing this type of activity, trust and whatnot. They've evidently decided to make it a staple of their state.
Well, there was a case that came up about a year and a half, two years ago. Guy and his wife had started a company, had become very successful. They had, they had a a a split, and she was on the trust as the trustee. And he went out and found him a younger model, and he went in because there was no prohibition on the laws of South Dakota. And they went in and changed the trustee to whoever, the new wife or whatevers. But the problem was in in South Dakota law, they didn't have to notify the old trustee that she wasn't the trustee anymore. So if you don't know that, you're gonna go go write a a a a trust in South Dakota and get something happen like that to you. So the point being is that you really personally need to know what the hell the trust is, how it's written, how it's presented, all that kind of stuff. And that's why he said, I can't give you an attorney to go to. Go take my course. And she came back and said, I don't have time to take your course.
Well, do you have time to throw all your wealth away because you don't know what the hell you're who the hell you're dealing with and what they've written for you? You see the point I'm making here, I hope?
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Never say is after being. The point being
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Hey. Listen. No is. Okay. Listen. If I could grab you by the neck, I'd slap you in the next week. Okay? Leave my show. We all you do is drive my damn listeners away. K? You've been an asshole on here since the first time you ever came on. You've alienated a good part of the audience, and I don't want you here. Christian, I'm not that way to everybody. This is the only person that I've ever reacted to like that is this guy right here. Go away. Go find another program. Go call Alex Jones for god's sakes. Yeah. He was interrupting you. I I couldn't I couldn't talk to you. I wanna kick his ass.
K? Him and his He runs. Mensa. All these men oh, I'm a Mensa member. You're a egotistical piece of crap. Lee, go find another radio show. Raj.
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What? There are three people to characteristically, there are three people that dial in as anonymous. He is one of them. Julie is another, and so is Sherry when Sherry joins us using her home phone. I'm suggesting a program wide moratorium on anonymous callers.
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Okay.
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Julie, start using the right he speaks up and identifies himself, he is the one with Roger. He believe. But but well, we try to remove him, but being these other anonymous is Narc's not here, and he has all his paralegal experience because this guy right here
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ejects something, and people dislike him so much, they leave the damn program.
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Roger?
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Yes. Roger?
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Mark's not here. He texted me. He's been up since 05:30 this morning. He's exhausted. He needs to take a nap before the 04:00, private membership group. Okay. Training starts Alright. At 4PM. So that's why he's not here. Julie, don't call in on anonymous anymore. Please find another way to do it. I know. I'm I I well, that's not always me doing that. That's also my phone provider that I'm having issues with as well. So I do try not to, but sometimes my number comes up as unavailable. I get pulled this by other people that I speak to using my landline. They say that my number came up,
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unavailable or blocked, and I didn't do anything. I just picked up the phone and dialed. So I apologize when that happens. That's okay. I just hang up. We dialed in again. But, you know, I'm sorry we gotta resort to these kind of deals, but that that that is the cause of it as far as. Okay?
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He he absolutely I understand that, but we we shouldn't give him that much power to get I try not to.
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I try not to. I will I beg him to go away.
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I beg him to go away. We don't want your blood we don't want your blood pressure going up, and we don't want your blood to be boiling, especially on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. He's not worth it. And I don't know. It's just better off that we just ignore him and,
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and and hang up on him and move forward. As if this As if and and that's what we do. As if this damn show is not contentious enough, I have to get grammar tips from mister freaking Mensa member.
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Raj. Raj, I have kicked out I have kicked out five anonymous calls in the last forty five seconds. So anonymous caller, your line has been muted. Anonymous callers are not allowed on this program. You must hang up now or you will be removed and do not call back. Unblock your number or download the app and come in with a name. Anonymous callers are no longer allowed on the radio ranch, period. Have a nice day, Ferris.
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We have to go through these links to Ferris proof our program.
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Bye bye.
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All caps then. Okay. Please for no. That's good. Oh oh oh, good lord.
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Okay. Now that was funny, Raj. That was funny. What? Oh, well, I'm sorry. I got that was funny. Okay. And no. Your name doesn't have to be in all caps.
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Oh, shit.
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Well, Christian I'll see if we can get this back on the rails here. Christian, my point being is you could you or your lady friend could do either or or of these. I'm not sure what Mark meant. You can find out as we go forward. Obviously, he's well, Mark's got taken care of two elderly parents. And as he told us the other day, his mom's set a point where she can't even cook anymore. So he's having to do double duty on that, and it's I I can't believe. I'm sure it's very, very, very demanding. So God bless Mark for taking care of his parents like he's supposed to, and, we'll just have to, work with the circumstances.
I'm sorry he isn't around here as much as he used to be because he's a big addition to what we do here, you know, especially for me. Uh-huh. So, anyway, the the the trust thing is gonna be available. We'll make, make notices of the things as they change or as they come together. If you want to, I'm what's his he's got a specific trust website and email. But, but I can give you Mark's email when you're ready to do that, or you can ask him himself or whatever. He'll be back. So, Chris, how else can how else can we help you?
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I believe it's [email protected] or your family
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legacy. Julie, do you anyway, you can just send him one at straw man. He'll get it there too. But, anyway, he'll come back on. We can ask him specifics. He not gone for forever. So, yeah, what else can we help you? Yes, sir?
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Well, we got a we got a website yesterday, and and I hate to say this. He said it, I think, three times, but I did not get the,
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mister Wrench. Okay. I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it to you. It's real easy.
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Commoncommonlawyer.com. Okay. Now the one I was talking about is the one that's trying to get, many as many people for that, to, to, to make it a price.
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Okay. Well, that would be, That would be Paul, and he's right here with us. Paul? Which which website was that? No. Brent's is what he was looking for. Brent's common lawyer dot com. Well, that's what
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I said. Yeah. I But but to do the trust, I think you if you want to get involved with Brent's trust class, you email Paul. Yeah. Email me. Yeah.
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That may be, but Christian may wanna listen to him on his service tomorrow too. That's all on commonwealth.com. That's what he asked for. Okay. Yeah. Everything that he did on this morning.
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That's perfect. That's perfect. Okay. Hey. And I wanna I wanna thank you that you got you know, I figured there you got a lot of, spies trying to come in and enter intercept what you are doing, and you had you knew that right away. Thank god for that. Well, no. I I I
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Farris is a disruptor. I don't think he's a government agent, but boy sure disrupts the program. I've never seen anybody disrupt a radio program like this guy ever. K? So Now on the on the rest of it, Paul is putting together something to do with Brent's course. Brent's course on the trusts and Magna Carta, almost a whole year of two hour programs on the Magna Carta. He he he he does all these programs with a sheriff up in Barrow County, I believe, Michigan, and his name is sheriff Dar Leaf. And he's a constitutional sheriff. He's been in office twenty years. He's got all the posse and all that stuff in his county, and he does these shows with Brent, okay, on all these things that are in the can.
He's getting ready to do one that we're all really excited about. He did one on the on the the, second amendment. He and Darleaf went through all the militia and the second amendment stuff on one of them. The one he's fixing to do is comparative law, which is comparing the common law to the law of the city. Okay? Now Brent is very good, exceptionally good, at taking very complex situations and boiling them down to some simplicity. So what he has been able to get across to us, you know, anything you can get in an either or situation, if there's only two options, your your decision is much easier. Right?
Right. So you can get it down into these either. Are you a slave or are you not a slave? Okay. Well, this is is it common law or is it the other? Well, the common law he refers to as the law of the land because it's the law of nature, nature's god, and and and and all that. K? So the other is the law of the city, and all of those other bodies of law are all the law of the city because they're all based on the Babylonian merchant code. So whether it's Judaism, whether it's Catholicism stuff, or, whether it's UCC, all those things are all lumped in in law of the city. So now you only got two options, law of the land, law of the city. That's pretty easy, isn't it?
That is. Okay. Very simple. Well, now you go back and find out that the only real way that you can talk about the common law, which is so important to all of us around here, is when you can compare it to the law of the city. And so, in fact, the the the the preeminent work on the common law is Blackstone's commentaries. I'm assuming you're familiar with those or at least have heard of them. Right? Yes. Yes. Well, that Blackstone's commentaries were the first time the common law had ever been written down. Did you know that? I didn't. Okay. And what happened there was a very wealthy Jew hired Blackstone to go into Oxford and teach the law of the city.
And so Blackstone very cunningly said, well, I can't teach the law of the city without comparing it to the law of the land. So he went in and did the commentaries on the common law, and that was written down. And that's where it came from. And so as Brent says, the only way that you can really grasp those, and I'll give you a synopsis in a second, is when you compare the two. So here's the comparison. In the common law, we concentrate and insist on process. If all the processes are done correctly, the outcome will be correct no matter what it is. So you see that line of reasoning?
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Yes.
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Okay. Well, the law of the city is just the opposite. They're not interested in process as much as they're interested in outcome. So they gear the process to achieve the outcome they desire. So there's the difference in the two bodies. Okay? So, anyway, he they're he's gonna start in July, one of these every Thursday, two hours on with sheriff Darr on that, the comparative law between the two. He's got a book of 900 and something pages that you can, give a gift and get one. All that's on his website, commonlawyer.com. But Brent is a treasure. He's a national treasure. I've never met anybody like him before in this movement, and I am tickled to death to be associated with him at least one day a week.
And we've never missed. Yeah. You know? In over fifteen almost fifteen years, we've never met. Wow. So yeah. And, just, he's a wonderful asset of for the program. And, well, it's just he's just And you are asset. He's a wonderful program. Well, I'm doing this just strictly out of duty. And, but your Yes. There's somebody. Is that Joan?
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That's No. That's Lisa. Oh. How did you and Brent cross paths?
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Might I ask story. So when we were at the MicroFX, you may have been listening back then. Lisa's a long time listener. Almost whole time one of the places I had lost you at. Okay. Well, I fell in a black hole up there, I'll admit. And, so on the truth, on the, micro effect was a attorney named Larry Beecraft. You've heard us mention his name around here. Pretty infamous in the Patriot Commutment. Good guy. Really good guy. Can't think outside the box, but he's a hell of a guy. So, Beecraft had a show on Saturday, and he would send out an email on who he had on the program.
And I was on that list. And so Beecraft sends out an email, so I'm gonna have, this guy, Brent Winters, on Saturday. He's an expert in the common law. Well, now I knew we were into the common law through this process. Nobody seems to know much about it. Have you ever have you noticed? And so here's some guy, according to another attorney who I know and respect, that's supposed to be an expert on it. Well, the only expert on it I knew was John Benson. He was still alive back then. And so what I wanted to do was to combine a show with John Benson and Brent Winters on the common law.
And that unfortunately, John was sick so sick at that end that he just couldn't do it. And so I said, well, hell. Let's do a show. And so the very first time Brent and I were ever on the radio together, there was, this chemistry that's there. And, you know, I've been around broadcasting long enough to recognize it. We you see it on interviews when people have got good chemistry. And Brent and I had chemistry from the start, and both of us recognized it, actually. And what was happening was with my background and knowledge, he'd be we'd be talking about something, and I'd say something that he didn't know.
And so that would spark something in him, and he'd come back with something that I didn't know. And we just have this constant, back exchange of, basically trying to trigger each other's database. And we both liked it. And so we've been continuing those shows ever since. We neither one of us remember how long it's been, but it's happened to have been at least twelve or more years. And I doubt we've missed a few Fridays and not many. Sometimes even when I didn't have electricity down here when we're going through that stage, Brennan, come on. Take the show over. And we never know because we don't ever set anything up on whether it's gonna be a legal discussion or a spiritual discussion or going into all these, nuances of words in the Bible and the correct Greek and all that stuff.
And it just depends on which way the show goes. But they're all good. I can tell you one, Christian. I'll tell you something that came out of one of the early shows here that freaked both of us out. Okay? And that is there was a, a guy that got my a copy of my book and did the first review on it was a guy that worked for, a big big computer outfit. I forget right now. He was the international merchandising head of that department, Cisco. Had big computer out there. And somehow, he's big Christian and, with brother brother Gregory out there and his flock out there on the West Coast. And so, anyway, he wrote got ahold of my book. I still don't know how he got ahold of a copy of it, quite frankly.
I think it was through Henry Macaw or something. But, anyway, he got a copy of my book and wrote a, book review on it. And it was on the probably still is on the Dollar Vigilante site. You probably still go back and find that in his archives, I'd imagine. And so Gary, then wrote another article that he put on there. He had a connection to, to Dollar Vigilante guy, Jeff Berwick. And, it was, Jesus it was an anarchist. A pretty interesting title. And because I already knew about Gary, I was reading that article. And, in it, he talks about a word that's only mentioned twice in the Bible called Corban. Have you ever seen that word in I think it's twice in the New Testament, Christian. Corban, C O R B A N. Are you familiar with that? I think so.
Okay. Well, I wasn't either. And so I've got kinda curious because in the article, it mentioned it, that Jesus mentioned it twice and that the parasites were were, utilizing Corban. Well, I got curious about it. I went on the web. Yes. I remember that. Okay. Well, I went on the web and tried to look through there. See, I couldn't really still get my arms around it. The the something they were bypassing the laws of Moses and and and this, that, and the other. Well, I mentioned that one day on the show with Brent. And Brent goes, well, let me see what I wrote about it here in my study bible.
And so he reads it out, and, this is what was going on. In those days, Christian, you'll probably have find this hard to believe. In those days, the Pharisees or the Pharisees, they were the Pharisees, were corrupting the youth. And they corrupted the youth to the point to where when they saw anything of value in the house, you know, the kids are supposed to take care of the parents, law Moses, and the parents have, through their lifetime, save up something so that they can be taken care of in their old age, and the children are supposed to sell that and go do take care of their parents. Well, the Pharisees were declaring the stuff Korban, which meant that it was the property of the temple.
And so the chill the kids would tell them what was valuable in the homes. The Pharisees would declare core ban and come and seize it, just like self help remedies, lean lever, garnishment, and seizure. Okay? And so that's what Jesus was railing about. And guess what happened? If you converted to Christianity by the way, they would take that and sell it so that they could finance their social system. And if you converted to Christianity, you got kicked out of Social Security. Oh, I mean, their social system. They're doing the same damn thing they were doing two thousand years ago.
Golly. Now how rare is that in? How rare how rare is that insight right there? Boy, that's
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rare. Wow. That's what they're doing now. It's corrupting the youth.
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And stealing your valuables. That's right. They just come and grab it. And even They do it they do it with a series of laws or a this is part of the Babylonian merchant code. This is the kind of stuff I want you to know and understand, Christian. K? Because nobody does. This is from
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the the wicked as Bible said, they're wicked from the womb all the way back to Babylon. They are. I believe that. Okay? I think it's in their genes. K?
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But, Yes. The what the things you need to understand that like our listener, oh, it's Michael. He's a farmer up in Minnesota. He may be listening today. And he goes, I'm I I I wake up in the night and lay awake at night thinking about filing this paperwork and the IRS kicking my door in, taking my stuff. Now I see what Michael doesn't know because he hasn't been in this. He hasn't spent all the years we have trying to understand it and fight it. They don't work like that. It may appear that they do, but they don't work like that when they come and start grabbing stuff. Those actions are called lien levy garnishment and seizure.
Those are called self help remedies. And the they call them self help remedies. This is directly from the Babylonian merchant code, the UCC. But there's a great deal of process they have to get through before they can come garnish your wages or grab your car or any of that stuff. So it appears that they've got all this power that they don't really have. First of all, you've given it to them because you've let them agreed with their jurisdictional trap. And now after they've gone through these procedures for one of their serfs, then they can come and do that kind of stuff. But that takes, man, it takes you, months at bottom or over a year or more at most.
There's all kind you gotta be offered a chance to go to tax court, and you gotta do this, and you you got to get a series of letters here and they got to wait ninety days here and all that. So there's a long time and a lot of process that goes through before they can exercise these self help remedies, but they're there and like, with a car. Okay? And so if you go buy an automobile, there'll be a clause in that contract. And, it's it's called a recognizance clause. And what that does is it sets up where if you don't pay you that car payment until the 60 or after the sixtieth day, depending on the state, if you hadn't paid a car payment in two months on the sixty first day, they can come grab your car.
But what you did Yeah. When you signed that financing agreement, you didn't read all the print in the contract, and you probably wouldn't understood it if you did. But in that contract, that's what you signed. You signed it. It has this clause called a recognizance, which comes from recognize, and that means that you agreed that you would abide by whatever the terms and conditions the state legislature had already set up and written into the statutes on car payments. So when the sixty first day comes and you hadn't paid, that that recognizance goes, well, the state says we can come seize it. Well, they don't have to go to court. They don't have to get on a docket. They don't have to impanel a jury and all that to see if you've paid your car payment or not because you might be in Tierra Del Fuego by that time. Okay? So they put this cost justifiable and justifiably in that car contract.
So it's got, like everything else, legitimate uses. And then they, being the merchants of the earth, using the merchant code for two thousand years or more, know all the little twists and turns and intricacies of all these little things like remedies. And so that's where they turn these and weaponize them against us.
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K?
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God, Lee. That's the kind of stuff I want to teach you. Okay? So now you understand that, yeah, by well, you agreed to it. You signed the contract.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Didn't didn't want you had to go to had to go to lunch and and didn't have time to to read the contract. Well
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have a lawyer before. Well or and quite frankly, you'd probably almost have to have a lawyer or be some sort of a pair of pair of whatever yourself to understand some of those terms and what they mean. K? But my point being is they have a long process before they can do that. And here's where I think it really affects countries that they're utilizing this in, which is all over the earth, is because people don't understand that they've got a lot of process to go through or that they signed a contract with them, allowing them to do this in the first place originally. You just look at it as they've got all this power where they can come and grab people's stuff just like Korban back there in our example.
But they don't. They don't have that power. They and that's where you'll usually beat them if if in that process, they did something incorrectly or they didn't do something they were supposed to do. That's generally how you can beat them if you find one of those. You don't beat them on law. You beat them on procedure. But just that kind of stuff is the kind of thing that I want to teach because you know what? Nobody else in the whole patriot community understands it because nobody else had John Benson as their law teacher. John Benson, my law teacher, that y'all are becoming the beneficiaries of his sacrifices, spent his whole adult life studying law.
And not the law from law schools, but going back to the old books. And what we found out is that they've been controlling the law schools in America for about a hundred years, and they don't teach this stuff in law schools anymore or else very rarely. So there's where our advantage is, Christian, right there.
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Well, I wanna I wanna thank you for going through that for me that you took a lot of your time. And and but you know what? I just thank Danny Murphy too for for getting me on this, on this new
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new knowledge here in wisdom. So I appreciate you, Roger. Well, thank you, Christian. I appreciate you. And and what what we've got to do, if you've been in this for a while, is we're gonna very gently go take an eraser and try and erase a lot of that patriot crap out of your mind and get good substantive concepts, facts in there so that you'll really get your hands around this. And until you get those in your mind, you won't start being empowered. But as you get rid of this other stuff and you get this new stuff in here, at some point, if you continue to learn, you're gonna become empowered. And what you're what's happening, I think, is that you're being reconnected with your creator. You're you're taking your birthright back, and the more information he you fill your vessel with, the more empowerment he's gonna give you and the more connection you're gonna have back to him the way you were supposed to have if they wouldn't have stolen and put this system in place at your birth, all of our birth.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Well and I do it because I consider it to be a duty, Christian. I mean, yeah, Larry. I know you're there. Let me just say this for Christian. That thirty three years ago, next month or early August, I ran across these guys in 1992. And, I never had a tax problem till I met them. I had one pretty quickly after that. But that was my second life there. And, ran across these guys, I didn't have any tax problems or anything else, but I did have a curiosity. Could I always known that something was wrong since the sixties when you and I were kids. And, now I had a thread for, boy, I started yanking on it. So they were teaching their stuff for six months. It was $1,500 to go through the course back then.
And, there was 1,200 students that paid to go through the course. 1,100 after they got raided, because the IRS came and raided them within six months of them teaching, closed all three offices and etcetera, etcetera. And, everybody else left. Out of those 1,200, I was the only one that took this further. And if I wouldn't have done this, we wouldn't know any of this. We'd still be a bunch of idiot patriots bumbling around stumbling on false concepts instead of being able to take an arrow and shoot it straight at the target and hit the bull's eye where we make the most powerful sons of bitches, Satan, with children that have ever walked the face of the earth, we make them stand mute.
Nobody else has ever had that power, Christian, to my knowledge.
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You just you just cleared that up for me because what I, and I asked forgiveness for calling Danny Murphy, a John Paul Jones. Brent Brent yesterday said patriots are dangerous, and I didn't you just answered that question for me. Yep.
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Yeah. It's not because of bad intentions. It's because they're looking for what we've got. Everybody's looking to connect the dots to to answer the question, what allows that unelected bureaucrat over there the power to regurgitate legislation in a different form and apply it and attach it to me and enforce it on me? What gives him that power? That's the question they're looking to answer, and nobody's ever been able to answer it before to my knowledge. We got it square in the sights. And I wouldn't I could not do this if I had not been schooled by John Benson. And I was a good student. He was a good teacher, and he had the right information. And nobody else took it further. Okay? So that's where we are, Kristen. That's what you've latched on to here. Now, Larry, well, you were trying to say something a second ago.
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Yeah. So there's a number of correspondence that the IRS will send to an individual before the actual five letters that are the main letters that they send out before they, you know, send you a letter with their intent to, collect. And so I I found this that explains it. If you have an unpaid tax liability, the IRS will give you time to respond and correct the problem. However, if you continue to ignore it, they will send additional collection notices in the mail. You should receive five letters before they actually freeze and seize your accounts and assets. And here's here's the five letters. The c p 14, which is a notice of unpaid taxes, CP five zero one, remind of unpaid taxes, CP five zero three, second reminder of unpaid taxes, CP five zero four, notice of intent to levy.
State tax refunds can be seized after they after this levy notice. They have that in parentheses. And then the final one is called an l t one zero five eight or l t 11, final notice of intent to levy and notice of right to appeal. And this is from, this is from a it looks like, amproject.org. It's something related to tax, you know, tax filings.
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And one of them is what's called a ninety day letter in there, which is the, invitation for you to take them to tax court. So every one of those letters they send you, they gotta give you a certain number of days to respond. I think ninety is probably the typical response. They they want you to volunteer back into the system. They don't wanna necessarily use you as an example, but they will, especially if it's around tax time and it's real egregious where they can hang you out to dry in the public and scare the public into filing. But each one of those has a response time. There's over a year and or a year and a half easy just right there. All those letters and all the time, allotted for a response not to not to even bring into the pay case the, incapacity of the screwed up IRS bureaucracy. Yes, Paul.
Point made. Thank you, Larry.
[02:03:48] Unknown:
Larry, what were the the three letters in the middle that were notices of unpaid taxes, reminder of unpaid taxes.
[02:03:59] Unknown:
Yeah. C p 14, notice of unpaid taxes. C p five zero one, reminder of unpaid taxes or or they have remind of unpaid taxes. I don't know if that's a misspelling. And then CP five zero three reminder, second reminder of unpaid taxes, and CP five zero four notice of intent to levy. And I also read on another website that does that that has to do with taxes. It's at this point that they could actually, seize your state income tax refund.
[02:04:37] Unknown:
Okay. No. The point I was state. I'm at state. The Yeah. And the point I was I was getting to is the power of three. You heard of the power of three? You say something three times, three times unrebutted, it becomes fact. There's three notices of unpaid taxes. They're making the declaration that they presume you have unpaid taxes. And if you don't answer that and cover that rebuttal or rebut that presumption, then they proceed as law. They proceed as fact. So if those three letters in the middle, that's the linchpin right there.
[02:05:16] Unknown:
What were the three letters? I was doing something else.
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Notice of unpaid taxes. And if you don't say, I don't owe taxes, then they presume that you un you have unpaid taxes. I I thought there's three letters in there. Oh, you have three letters in the middle. BC. No. There's three letters in the middle, and they all reference unpaid taxes. They all make the presumption.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
Yep. So, and that may be for failure to file.
[02:05:48] Unknown:
That may be for Well, it it was the first three, Paul.
[02:05:51] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Fine. Okay. Then that's where the lynchpin is. Roger? The power of three? Yes. Yes. Who's, hey, Roger there?
[02:06:01] Unknown:
Roger? For for a benefit of a Christian.
[02:06:06] Unknown:
So so you have to rebut you have to rebut every one of those, won't it?
[02:06:10] Unknown:
Well, you should. You should. You should. Especially the first of fifty nine is the the one that you should rebut within ten days just out of the concept that's behind it, we think, is, dear Christian, we haven't received your tax return for 2023. If you've already filed this, disregard this notice. If not, we might ask you to bring in some of your books and records. K? That one, have you ever seen one of those? No. Okay. Well, if you haven't filed, then that's what you'll get. That'll be their first contact. And what most of our people do, Christian, is they take that and throw it in the trash can.
Now unbeknownst to them, what my teacher John thought, I've never seen him be wrong, okay, was that that was a specialty kind of contract in the uniform commercial code, the Babylonian merchant code, in specialty contracts, which is called a confirmatory writing. And that is when one merchant writes to another merchant, and they're both surprised to know the contents of the writing. And if you don't expressly deny that in ten days, then it's considered accepted. And what they thought is because the tax system is voluntary, that this is the way they get you in a contract if you haven't filed at the front end of the process.
That allows them down the line when the computer stops because you don't have a ten forty on file. You didn't file, remember. And that allows them to insert what's called a substitute for return or in our community, a dummy return. And then that's where they say, well, we've come up with all this like they did with me. Well, we've come all up on all this, and and we're gonna say he owes us $35,000. And then they put that in there even though you didn't sign it. You you you got a contract on the front end, so the agent does it. Now there's a ten forty in the process, and it goes on to assessment and collection.
That's the pivot point right there, and that one letter is what it seems allows them to do all that. K? You have tenders to respond. They don't respond. It means they accept. Chris, are you trying to say something? Because you're really faint. I was
[02:08:40] Unknown:
I was trying to say something. Okay. I'm sorry. I'll let you. Scripture that I wanted to share. Okay. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Gotta talk right into your phone. Here's the scripture. It's Corinthians seven verse 21. Out the art thou called being a servant, share not forth. So if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
[02:09:06] Unknown:
Okay. What what was the first line of that? Says
[02:09:10] Unknown:
another version says, when you were a slave, when god called you, let not that weigh on your mind. And yet if you can get your freedom, take advantage of that opportunity. Oh, there you go. Right there straight from the big book.
[02:09:27] Unknown:
So, Christian, hope that helps you out. We can go into all kinds of stuff. These little remedies, these little self help remedies here, they are really important to understand because that's what changed Rome. Rome, for the first two hundred years, had a very like a common law. They did the 12 tablets. And then through the trade, the growth of the empire and the merchants coming to Rome who used the merchant code, and the Romans saw them doing this self help remedy things and over 200 got the praetor to incorporate the uniform commercial code into the Roman common law. Guess where that is in our system? That's The United States code.
The United States Code is Roman civil law, and it's got both common law and it's got this Babylonian, merchant code in it. So every you know? But you know the old saying, those who don't learn their lessons from history are destined to repeat them. That was Jorge Santayana. You're you're familiar with that, George? Yes. I mean Christian. I'm sorry. Well, so John, my teacher turned that around a bit and he said, those who do know history can repeat it over those who don't in half the time.
[02:10:58] Unknown:
You know? Very, very active. Very. Yes. There's there's times that you, you are really coming through clear real clear, but I think people are trying to say something,
[02:11:12] Unknown:
as you're talking, and it really causes a Well a conflict in which you're trying to tell me. It does, and I'm sorry for it. It's a necessity with what we're doing. And to get the clarity, there's a slight delay, a half a second delay. And that's why we ask people to say comment or whatever, and and we'll recognize you. We try our best to get back to you. But we can't both talk at the same time, and that causes that confusion you're alluding to right there, I believe. Raj. May I? Yes. Let Paul get in there first, Joe. I will let Joe go first. Alright, Joe.
[02:11:52] Unknown:
It was Erby. Erby. Erby. Oh, I agree. Well, maybe I should go before him.
[02:11:58] Unknown:
Because when he starts talking, he keeps going. I wanna circle I wanna circle back. I wanna circle back. Roger was telling the story, and I think it would be good to put her on this one broadcast to Christian of how the light bulb moment for you when it all came together when you were doing your own affidavit and saw those phrases in the paperwork, and it was a light bulb moment that said, It I'm not We're we're well, the reason we're here is because I had a little voice back in about 02/2007, second time it's come to me in my life, telling me I needed to get out. That's all it said. You need to get out. Obama was running, and I didn't do anything with it. And and and so I waited, just put it on the back burner. Well, a little while later, it came again, said the same thing. And I learned at that point when you get that little voice twice, you better pay attention to it. And so, through a series of events, I decided to move to Argentina, and I finally had to go get a passport.
And I reluctantly went to our little post office and picked up the forms and came home and started reading the d s 11, the orange one. And there at the top of the first page is the answer I've been looking for for about ten years. And that's why we're here today. Warning. You can you can attach documentation, including affidavits, but you better not lie. And that's the warning box that's in both forms today. And when I I saw that, I knew I had him. It had secretary of the state of The United States Of America at the top. I knew that he was the I knew, but it I hadn't put it all together. I had known since the early days that he was the, final arbiter of all matters concerning citizenship in the country. That had stuck in the back of my mind from a letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida. When I asked him for a letter stating I was a Florida State citizen, he wrote me back. He said, I can't do that, son. You're the Secretary of State of The United States has all final authority over all matters concerning citizenship. That stuck in my mind.
And that, when I saw that affidavit when I saw that, pay that passport application, both of those things, the warning box and the secretary of state of The United States Of America were both at the top of the first page. And I went, holy shit. This is what I've been looking for. And it it has been. Everything stemmed from that moment.
[02:14:37] Unknown:
That's something.
[02:14:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, see, here's what they're doing. Well, now I can analyze it a little bit better because I understand what they're doing. All they're doing is taking the same concept with us, and they change the label on it. They just label it something different, and we go off chasing. Oh, there's a whole there's a brand new pig. We all go off chasing it. But it's the concepts. That's why I teach concepts. Because once you get the concept, it doesn't matter what they label it. You can tell what it is. Now I think that's the reason they buffaloed our whole community all these years, quite frankly, or one of the main ones. There's several different things they do. That's one of them. They change the definition of words. That's another one.
Yeah. And so you, you know, you look through You're looking through the code and trying to figure this out, and they got over in title 42. It says the citizens of The United States are have all the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. White citizens, what do you mean? That's in The United States code. Well, there it is right there. You go over to title 28 with the jurats, the penalty of perjury. Well, there's one inside The United States and one outside The United States. You go over to the Internal Revenue Code, and they call it a nonresident alien. You go over to title aid, and they call it a territorial citizen. So there they are just changing the label on the same damn thing.
So you've really got to know your stuff here, and that's why I drill you guys on basics. Basics. Basics. Basics. You learn those basics, and they can never fool you again.
[02:16:18] Unknown:
Hey, Raj.
[02:16:19] Unknown:
Yes. Just like
[02:16:21] Unknown:
watch this hand while the other hand That's exactly that's exactly what they do. Like the guy at the county fair, which thimble is the pea under. That's exactly what they're doing.
[02:16:34] Unknown:
We've got something go we've got something going on with, FCC. There's a high pitched squeal, and that is no doubt interfering with the box between collars. I've been trying to identify it. I cannot find it yet. We're actually fifteen minutes over showtime because I shut off the, whistler at the top of the, of the first tower and forgot to turn it back on. Okay. But I did also while I was hunting for the, the law of names, I have not been able to, locate that document. However, I did find one that references the Chicago style manual that says, law is extremely precise. Every letter, capitalization, punctuation mark, etcetera, in a legal document is utilized for a specific reason and has legal, I e, deadly force consequences.
If, for instance, one attempts to file articles of incorporation in the office of the secretary of state of a state, if the exact title of the corporation down to every jot and tittle is not exactly the same in each and every time the corporation is referenced in the documents to be filed, the secretary of state will refuse to file the papers. This is because each time the name of a corporation is referenced, it must be set forth identically in order to express the same legal entity. The tiniest difference in the name of the corporation identifies an entirely different legal person.
Capitalization matters. It identifies an entirely different legal person, not necessarily you.
[02:18:31] Unknown:
Okay. Well, on that note, I'm gonna go off and enjoy my weekend, and you guys can scrabble over that all you want.
[02:18:39] Unknown:
I well, I just thought I'd throw that in.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. Chicago style, man. Roger. Is recognized. Yes, sir. Who's that?
[02:18:47] Unknown:
This is Sleepless Michael.
[02:18:50] Unknown:
Hello, Sleepless Michael. How are you doing? Michael. I hope you found a I've got a tranquilizer or something for that.
[02:19:00] Unknown:
We've been talking about trust and then we now we talk about IRS. Oh, we've been all over the map today. Yeah. Been all over the place. Is it necessary for me to keep thinking about making a trust to protect myself from the IRS? Well, it'd be wise. Is it necessary?
[02:19:22] Unknown:
Well, it's not necessary, but it'd be wise to be protect your assets. And it's certainly worth something looking into.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
Well, if that after isn't the affidavit gonna do that? Keep shoving the affidavit? Well, it should.
[02:19:37] Unknown:
It should. But but what if, somebody what if your tractor goes through the fence and injures the I'm only running on the air. Let's only stay on the subject of the IRS. Well, I'm still Not all the lawsuits. To give you another reason to have a trust. Might not be IRS. Oh, I'll I'll do it for estate purposes planning only. Let's stay on IRS subject. Is IRS
[02:20:01] Unknown:
and having an irrevocable trust necessary as a national?
[02:20:05] Unknown:
Well, I don't think so, but some people like to have the assurance of it. So I can't make that decision for individuals. It's your decision. I'd we've never seen the IRS crash this. I think lately, Michael, where we had another Michael in his group of FedEx workers call in last week or week or three. Did you hear that? Okay. Well, I think I'm here every day. Okay. Well, I think what happens is well, that's good. What happens is with that, that's why I asked you, anybody else gets, has that happened? Please let us know. Let's see if this is a concerted all across the board or if this is some isolated example for some reason.
But you see, that would make perfect sense to me that they might come and mess with your withholding because they're you're they like to be real how powerful we are and how all that stuff, their chutzpah. So they come back. They can't go after you because we got them by the balls. They're not gonna take that into court, but they'll come back and go, well, we're gonna make your your employer take you with maximum withholdings out. Okay. Well, big deal. Next year and on April 15 or before, I'll file a ten forty n r and get all that back. Okay. So I don't know whether it's an isolated incident or a whole new policy, but they can't do anything about us.
And that's got them freaked out. This is the big hitch. This tax thing is the big hitch because that's how they go back and satisfy the origins of the credit monetary system. And if they don't do that, the bond market crashes, which, incidentally, it's doing right now. Roger? All them damn nationals not paying taxes. Well, no. It's it's all the, the these damn bastards killing or going around the world and pulling all this shit they've been pulling for decades. And the rest of the countries in the world getting pissed off about it to the point that they start a whole gold standard, monetary system called bricks, which an awful lot of people are fleeing to right now because of what's going on in Iran.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Mirka and then Julie. Mer, Mirka first and Julie.
[02:22:28] Unknown:
Thank you. What I can say, Roger, you know, for Michael to understand is that the IRS has no authority unless, you know, you you owe some taxes, federal taxes that if you're employed by them or if it's the 81 eight seventy one and eight seventy seven. And I was gonna say, Roger, on Monday, maybe we should talk about a little bit about the authority
[02:22:54] Unknown:
that they that The United States system has over us now that we're not a U US citizen. The only the only authority private individual. Well, the only authority they've got off of us are those two sections of taxes you just mentioned. Right.
[02:23:10] Unknown:
So, it's important to understand that, you know, as a private individual, they we we are not no longer under their authority. I know, but Michael to us to to it's up to us to carry ourselves.
[02:23:23] Unknown:
Michael is. He's a farmer. He's understanding. He hadn't spent his time studying all this stuff, and he just hadn't come to that conclusion, sure enough, in his mind yet. I think he will eventually, but I I can't. And we had to come on here and say, Michael, if you're not certain about this, I wouldn't file an affidavit yet. K? So, it's very rare that I tell people not to do this, but if you're really not sure what you're doing since everything's voluntary and it's your choice, I don't think you ought to do it until you're a little more certain. And that's no construct on Michael or anything else. I understand he's what he's going through. But, the the it's this is a serious thing, really, and I I want people to take it seriously.
So I'm glad that Michael has got this hesitation and these questions. K? Cool. So, Michael, glad that you're there. I'm glad to know you're there all the time. Julie, next. Can I say something, Roger? Yes, ma'am. You may. Of course.
[02:24:30] Unknown:
Oh, this is for Michael. Michael, you asked and you wanted this specific to the IRS. And my whole thing is it's better to have it not need it than need it and not have it. And the reason why I'm saying that is we just have utter lawlessness going on in this country, in every way, shape, and form when it comes to these courts and these lawyers and these judges. And so, I mean, I don't know if you guys followed, the recent court case about a, Down syndrome, girl by the name of Grace who was murdered at a hospital since Right. Right. That's the judge ruled against, against him. He was kicked out of the hospital. They murdered her. They used drugs on her. They signed a do not resuscitate, that they were not supposed to, and the judges ruled against him and for the and the jurors ruled against him and said, nope. The hospital was found not guilty, not liable for murder. It's outrageous what they do. But why, Julie? That takes answer in Washington. Are US citizen. Because they are US citizens. They are not nationals. That's why they lost.
I I think that was an addition of that. Today that was blatant murder. I've I've read the whole case. I followed that thing from inception. Even if you're not even if you're a a US citizen, they literally murdered that Down syndrome girl and Wasn't. The drugs they used without authorization, and we have utter lawlessness here. I'd say protect yourself, better be better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
[02:26:07] Unknown:
According to the trading agency in the act. Got them. According according to the Washington wasn't that a state of Washington case? It wasn't a federal case. It was a state case, wasn't it?
[02:26:19] Unknown:
I think it was, Roger. I just really felt I really feel horrible for him because it's I mean, it's how can you find him I mean, these people were bought off, obviously. How could you not find them liable for all of they just it was, like, 10 things that they did, and they even admitted during their deposition. They contradicted themselves during the depositions when they were asked specific things, and they also lied during their deposition. And here, you know, I don't know. I just don't trust any of these these courts even if you are national. They are It's getting not cut out. It was happening to break yesterday. Right now.
[02:26:58] Unknown:
Okay. We lost you. By the way,
[02:27:01] Unknown:
by the way, Roger, you really ought to go to Rumble and listen to the latest two hour interview with one zero seven who I don't really care for. However, that guy knows something. He talks about what's going on with the SES inside the government and all these shadow governments and all of the fraud that's going on with all of the intelligence agencies and stuff. And the stuff that he was divulging was very interesting. It was reminding me of a, interview that Chihuahua always has with, Martin Armstrong. This was one of the better interviews that I've heard from clandestine information.
He's on beforenews.com. If you go to that website, it's the top video. They rank the videos by viewership. It's the fur it was the first one on there this morning when I woke up. It's probably still there. It was number one. Got it. It's a fascinating educational
[02:28:04] Unknown:
Okay. Video to watch. Alright. Thank you. I haven't even had the chance to listen to
[02:28:09] Unknown:
Martin Armstrong. This got recommended earlier this week. Yes, Paul? Yeah. He's you can listen to that one too, Roger. That one's incredible.
[02:28:16] Unknown:
I don't I can't listen to all this stuff. I just don't flat have the time and have a life. I can't do both. Paul, what do you want? Julie,
[02:28:24] Unknown:
that child died because that child was a citizen of The United States, an an enemy of the state pursuant to the trading with the enemy act of 1933. And the hospital is an agent of the government because the hospital is the one that is the informant when a child is birthed in their hospital.
[02:28:50] Unknown:
Every hospital in the country has a government federal terminal in it to start this birth certificate process. Okay. I get it. You're right. Alright. You're right on that. I stand corrected. Yeah. And you see and see, here's interesting. Julie knows what we're talking about. She's been around about six six, seven months now. And she goes, it's just lawless. It's just lawless. Well, it isn't lawless. If you're one of theirs and you got these privileges called civil rights, they can do anything they want to you in the end in the end analysis.
[02:29:23] Unknown:
But I still say, Roger, that is lawless because they are not functioning under law. They're functioning under code. No. They're a funk they're legally. They're doing it legally, not lawful. Right. Right. Right. So it is lawless. It's legal, but it's lawless. Okay. Well, that's what it says in the in the footnote of Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars.
[02:29:42] Unknown:
Julie, I'm sure with all your background research, you've come across that. And one of the footnotes My friend my my friend's private weapons for for whatever word, that's a Deborah Tavares document. She reports that all the time. Well, it's not her document. It came out of a government sale. But regardless of that Right. The point I'm trying to make is in one of the footnotes, it says, what we do will not always be lawful, but it will always be legal.
[02:30:11] Unknown:
Right. But I think
[02:30:14] Unknown:
Alright. Now I've got Just FYI, if I may.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
Yes,
[02:30:20] Unknown:
sir. So my dear friend, Hartford Van Dyke. Yeah. He's that guy. Look him up. If you haven't ever heard of him, he wrote silent weapons for quiet wars after he read the report from Iron Mountain. That book, that pamphlet, that that, whatever. He it was found inside of a copy machine at an airport base in in Oregon where Hartford was with he picked up a young man hitchhiking. He had 600 copies. He just came from the printer. He had 600 copies of that book in the back of his car, and he sees a guy hitchhiking on the highway in full military dress. And he says, you never see that. He pulled over, and he said, what's wrong? And the guy says, I'm three hours late to duty station, and I'm three hours away.
Hartford says, get in. I'll drive you. He explains the whole book to him, and then as they pull up to the base, they come up to the gate the guard shack. He the gate in Hartford reaches in the back, and he pulls out a book, and he hands it to the kid. The kid gets out. He watches and walk through the the ends of the shack. He turns around and he leaves. Sometime later, his buddy called him and said, Hartford, you better take ownership of your book because the government is claiming that they wrote it because it got found in a copy machine that was sold off of that, that base that you gave to that kid. And Deborah was telling this story for years, and I kept hearing it. And then in 02/2015, I was on a conference call, this Friday night call that I've been on since that was my first night there. Hartford Van Dyke was the the the guest speaker that night, and it was his first time. And he told us his life story, and it all started in Hawaii six weeks before Pearl Harbor. And, oh my god, what a freaking, it was unbelievable. He just recently died.
He did. Last year, April, it's been a little over a year now. And I I was we were very close. And, he he's born on doctor Wallach's birthday. They're the same age, and they were so much alike. Unbelievable. Their idiosyncrasies were identical. They could have been like twins. You know? But doc is five foot four and Hartford was six foot three, and he he was a hundred and thirty pounds. I put 20 pounds of muscle on that guy with longevity, and, it prolonged his life, I know, for several years. So, anyway, I yield. But, yeah, check that out, man. I I'm Well, it did. Telling the truth, and I know it's back. I've I've heard the story out of the copier, you know, how they
[02:33:13] Unknown:
change copiers and they put those things out for sale and somebody bought it and they opened it up and there's this document in there. Okay. But the point I was trying to make was at the bottom, it separates clearly the law of the city and the law of the land. One is lawful. The other is legal. Yes. Julie what?
[02:33:34] Unknown:
Yeah. He's right. I'm on stopthecrime.net, and you can get this document. And it specifically says the following document dated May 1979 was found on 07/07/1986 in an IBM copier that had been purchased at a surplus sale. Yep. Top secret silent weapons for Quiet War's operations research technical manual, TMDashSW7905Dot1. This publication marks the twenty fifth an anniversary of the third world war called the Quiet War, and you can you can get it on stopthecrime.net.
[02:34:16] Unknown:
Okay. There you go. So, anyway, filled all kinds of fascinating stuff in our industry in this history, and we found the loophole to get out of it. Count your blessings. Alright? Does anybody else have anything for me? Because I've got to do things, and I got a housewarming party to go to and all that stuff.
[02:34:40] Unknown:
Anybody got anything for me? Just watch the fresh fruit.
[02:34:44] Unknown:
Okay. I will, and we will leave it at Robert. Roger, be blessed, Roger. Oh, thank you. Have a good one. Thank you. I'm still doing this. Do okay. Have a good day, Roger. Yep. Yep. See you Monday.
[02:34:59] Unknown:
Bye, Raj. Hey. So that was it. The Radio Ranch with Procter Sales, the Sabado edition on eurofolkradio.com, well, up to about thirty four minutes ago, and Global Voice Radio Network. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixd0cs.com. You'll also find links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Hopefully, I'll be able to get rid of that high pitched squeal. It's making me crazy. It's making me nuts. You can also find downloadables, exhibits, interviews, all kinds of stuff. Great links. You really, really, really need to pack a lunch and stay the day. Thank you so much for joining us. Our archives are on archivedot, globalvoiceradio.net, or you can find the link right there on the on the web page. There's bonus materials, in in red, on the first page that also has links to our telegram groups, National Status Freedom and PPN Radio Ranch and also chetango.com.
Thanks. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Discussion on US-Israeli Relations and Middle East Politics
Listener Interaction and New Audience Members
Legal Discussions and Jurisdictional Issues
Private Property and Transportation Laws
Community Dynamics and Group Cohesion
Debate on Legal Names and Capitalization
Personal Stories and Listener Engagement
Trusts and Asset Protection
Closing Remarks and Announcements
