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In this episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles, the discussion centers around the intricate web of legal and political maneuvering in the United States. The host, Roger Sales, delves into the complexities of voluntary servitude and the implications of the 14th Amendment, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's legal status and rights. The conversation touches on historical and contemporary issues, including the role of the judiciary, the concept of citizenship, and the influence of political and legal systems on personal freedoms. The episode also highlights the significance of self-education and awareness in navigating these systems.

Listeners are encouraged to explore the nuances of legal definitions and the impact of historical precedents on current legal frameworks. The episode features discussions on the role of the judiciary, the manipulation of legal systems, and the importance of personal empowerment through knowledge. With contributions from various callers, the show provides a platform for exploring the intersection of law, politics, and personal rights, urging listeners to critically engage with the systems that govern their lives.

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Yep.   As would we, and we keep trying here on six days a week.   Two hour segments of trying to get the truth out, trying to get you free, trying to get important things covered,   dissected,   discussed, analyzed,   and all those different things. And maybe if you are the others here at the Radio Ranch, Roger Sales, your host. It's the Saturday   or Sabado   edition, and we're   date stamped April 26. Boy, we're pretty close. Next week is Mayday.   And, so so be it. I think we have a extremely,   extremely abbreviated,   list of contributors today.   Yes.  

So Paul really didn't have to say too much. You don't have to work too hard today. But Yeah. Go ahead and commence.  

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I can dive back under   the under the stairs   pretty quickly this morning.  

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Mhmm.   We have Or under the covers. Oh, I'm gonna sleep late.  

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Yeah.   We have   eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James,   and we have Global Voice Radio Network,   my pet project.   Uh-huh. And   we're   on free conference call. That's how   Mhmm. Of our,   listeners, callers, participants,  

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contributors Contact us. Uh-huh. Join Check-in.  

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The show.  

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Yeah.   And, So we're   we're very lean today.  

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Yeah. We we're we're very lean today. I was Okay. I was sorry. I was I was a little distracted there. I was   adjusting some levels, things like that.   Alright. Go to the matrixstocks.com.   You'll find the link to pre conference call there. You can join us live on the show. We've got plenty of room. Come on down.  

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Alrighty.   About   the third sip of my second cup of coffee here this morning.   Oh, boy. Where do we start? Mark Mark's supposed to be with us today. Are you with us today there, Mark? You and Straw?  

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Sounds ominous.  

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He's probably topping off the coffee cup. Yeah. He probably that's what I was gonna say if you're pouring him another one, something in the kitchen.   Well, the show then, is for new people. I don't know if we have any of those.   We have them occasionally here lately.   And, and so, really, it's for you. That's why we get up early and, well, not too early.   But we get up early and come here and turn this on and service you. Who is that? Somebody grunting in the background, going through some kind of pain? It feels really early to me, Raj.   Yikes. Well, I know. I know. I could sleep later too, and tomorrow I get   to. But we get up in the in the morning here in the daylight savings time segment of our year, which may be the last time we ever deal with it,   and,   say,   wow. I bet there's some people that like to be free out there in this world, and let's see if we can run up the flag and get their attention and see who salutes as they   say, Paul.  



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Right. I love the flagpole.  

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Hey. Did you did you catch the Paul English live show from last Thursday? I have I've not had a chance. Usually, I'll listen to Paul's show on the weekends because there's not other stuff. No. I haven't had a chance to yet. You wanna give us give us some,  

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titillating incentive to do so? The only thing I can say is   it was a tremendous   ton of fun.   It was.   Yeah. It was. It it went,   it went serious. It went madcap. It went serious. It went madcap again.   Mhmm. And it was   never a dull moment. I'm pulling this live.  

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Okay. Well, I haven't had a chance to. I'll try to   over the weekend. So,   anyway,   there's,   boy, I just got finished. Julie, is Julie with us this morning? Did she sleep in, or is she with us this morning? Julie, you there?  

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Did you get my my email?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I just got finished watching it here right before you went on the show.   And, I wanna   sorry about, sorry about the loss last night, but I guess, really, you gotta give Montreal something, and and they hadn't won a playoff game. They hadn't played a playoff game or maybe won one in ten years at home. So   they were somewhat beside themselves   last night.   And, up for the up for the game playing at  

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a playing an away game. So, you know, you got the Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Always always.  

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Yep. Always makes a difference. We'll see what they do Sunday night.   But,   Ovi Ovi got a goal, so that's good.   Yep. Alright. So I watched that last night. Julie thought about you. And,   then I sent yesterday, I mentioned on the show,   about this third hour of Harrison Smith on Thursday.   I sent it to Mark and Brent,   and, and I talked about it with you guys, but I don't know if any of you watched. Did anybody go back and watch that?  

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Robbie was trying to find it, and so was,   Yeshua Faith.   She wouldn't they were trying to find the, the third hour of the episode.  

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Yeah. Well, I just Did you watch the video I sent you on, Stu Peter?  

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We did now what, Julie? You weren't. I didn't hear exactly.   Well, something about Stu Peters   and Elon Musk. Do what?  

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No. No. No. Stu Peters came out with his own crypto coin. Oh, yeah. JPRO.   Yeah. JPRO. It got it got censored.  

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And they censored his coins get censored.   I gotta tip my hat to Stu Peters. You know, really, he's doing a tremendous job. So,   Julie's sending me some of his latest things, and he's on   a bash the Jews campaign, which   boy, I sure wish I could join in that parade, but, we have to do Got a website.  

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He's got a website, www.don'tbeajew.com,   and it's banned in Germany because you're not allowed to talk about the holocaust over there. You go to jail.  

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Oh, yeah. For years. For years. They'll send you to jail if you're 90   years old over   there because they did that with the gal recently. The  

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first crypto coin, it's been censored.  

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They're, well,   you see, they don't go to these extremes unless they're really concerned.   They're really concerned that the people are rising up and finding out who they are and what they've done and a lot more than they ever knew before.   And they are, as a large segment, not quite as complacent with the,   with the,   Jewish race,  

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really. Yeah. Well And, so that's good.  

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That's very disconcerting. He watched all of his stuff. He he brings the goods. He's got the receipts. It's pretty, evident what's going on here. Yeah. So No. So he was, he was a private investigator before he started doing this stuff. Did you know that? You know who was really, really bashed? Bounty Hunter. Yeah. Okay. You know who really, really bashed   Stu Peters at the first? I don't listen   too much anymore, but was Jeff Rents. Jeff Rents used to bash the hell out of Stu Peters. And now Stu's come around and right a be right ought to be a co engineer in the in the engine room of the, anti u train with Rents,   and me, by the way.  

Except those guys, well, Rents see, Rents didn't get what I was saying, so he didn't think about it deep enough. You just can't get one exposure on this stuff. I'm sorry. That's the way it is, but it's just the way it is. You gotta spend some time with this and let it absorb into your mind and and get you changed over in your thinking a little bit, and then you realize, hold it. This is the whole ball game right here.  

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Okay. You you watch subtle. Watch this documentary,   over overtaken, and, you know, it's it's very evident what's going on. But, yeah, I wish you would change the word Jew to Zionist because as we've all said on this show before,   not all Jews are bad. It's it's just the Zionists and the Jesuits and the Well Nazis   that we're really talking about here.  

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Right. Well, mostly, that's right. But, some of the Orthodox people are pretty freaking weird too, Julie.   I mean, they come and take your son and bite bite the sir the foreskin of his penis off with their mouth. And because they've been eating   lox and bagels and gefelta fish, they get the kid infected,   and they take him to court.   This is in court. This is a court case in New York. This is not something I'm pulling out of thin air here.   It's the way you said it. The paper I'm sorry. Dan well, Dan, fortunately, our our our Jewish listener here and participant, if he's with us today,   he understands perfectly that we don't mean there there are some fine Jewish people, and I'm I've known them throughout my lifetime, especially when I was in the record business. Man, the record business got more Jews in there than Hollywood.  

Okay?   So, yeah, I had some some I had some dear friends that were Jewish. They're they're very, very good to me.   Harvey Wysong's   father   was real close to a Jewish family in Atlanta. So, and, they really,   really helped him out a lot. And he was   a professor of engineering at Georgia Tech   and literally invented   the,   the the way that they can synchronize   machine guns,   where they won't   fire   it through, propellers and stuff.   And he he came up with all that. I believe that's what it was, something to that effect. And,   they gave him an honorary commission in the navy for it. But they had a very   good Jewish family. It was very, very good to him early in his life. So, yeah, there's some fine Jewish people. It's just these radical.  

And I believe if you go back, Jesus had it nailed two thousand years ago, Revelation two and three nine. There are Jews that say they're Jews, but are not. They are the synagogue of Satan.   That's about as good as succinct definition and and and of them as I've as you've   I believe you'll find, quite frankly.   So,   anyway, that's a big topic. It's obviously gonna get bigger. Oh,   stop it.   Just stop it. That was my   I'm gonna sleep late this morning.   Thirty   extra minutes.   So did Mark show up yet? Because I'm anxious to query him about that.   Listen. The the way   there he is. He's here.  

The the the way for the Robbie and the gals that couldn't find it, I mean,   there's a number of different sites that do hour by hour   all the Infowars during the day and then a full show at the end. The one that I usually go to is just because I'm familiar with this guy named Ron Gibson   over on on Rumble, and just go to last Thursday's third hour. It'll be the American experience right there.   I could   I could probably send a link to Paul. Maybe he could post it somewhere.   But, Mark, I sent that to you. Did you get a chance to watch that yet? No. No. I was pretty much away from the computer yesterday.   Okay. Well, I sure was hoping you had.  

It's quite interesting. The guy's not a lawyer,   but he has learned to become one over the last couple of years chasing all this information.   Remember what happened,   the attorney general in New York,   Tish   Leticia James? Yeah.   Yeah. Or Leticia Crap. Oh, excuse me. James?   Yeah. You know what I'm talking about with the mortgage scams that she's doing?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I was, it's kinda interesting. It looks like she's gonna be facing some more charges that she tried to lay on Trump.  

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Well, you need to watch this thing I sent you because guess who else is?   Jamie Raskin,   Adam Schiff,   Adam,   Weiss,   Weissman, Andrew Weissman, that little creep,   judge   Brauburg.   They have uncovered a whole nest of this.  

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I love it. I heard Barnes say that they just basically,   oh, what do you call it? When you're calling somebody out on something,   it's usually something you are familiar with, that you've done it yourself.   So   it's they're   projecting their own sin upon somebody else.  

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And so That's what's kinda going on here.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're they're going after Trump for the real estate stuff when in fact, they've they've all done it themselves.  

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Well, I'm sorry.  

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Anything Trump did was,   really unlawful when it come to his real estate deals and  

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No. Not at all. Over overinflating  

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on the value of it, and the bank goes in and they do their own assessment. So   it's crazy.  

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Well, I think that I think he paid back Deutsche Bank forty million dollars in interest on one of those loans they're trying to Well, yeah. They got on say something. They got on the stand and said they'd do it again.   Yeah.   I,   I   guess so. If I can get somebody sign a promissory note and me making tens of millions of dollars, hell, I'd do it all day long, which is what they do.   Yeah.   Now I should have put a note on there and asked you to watch that because I wanted to talk about it today.   It's about,   forty five minutes long, and the guy is a Jewish guy. His name's Goodman, I think. Really, really good. He's one of these good Jewish guys right here, and he's investigating the bad Jewish guys and calling them out. And he's got the goods on him   because of us   I don't even it's quite detailed oriented,   his whole story there, and I can't   give you accurate enough rendition, I don't think. I don't want to bluster it up, but they're doing the same damn thing. They're for the example,   preeminently   was Adam Schiff.  

Right. Adam Schiff was a   of Representatives guy   before   he before they   fraudulently got him elected as a senator this last time against you know who he wrote, who he ran against was Garvey,   the little Los Angeles Dodgers,   shortstop, I think.   Yeah. Steve Garvey.   And, anyway, I'm think I think Garvey would have won, really, but they cheated him into it, of course. Well, they went back and found that he's got one of these loans like Leticia James   in Maryland for his house,   and he claimed it as his private residence.   So he wasn't legitimately   in congress.  

Wow.   That's just one little edge of the curtain there,   the carpet they're pulling up. But and we don't know where it leads, but it sure involves a lot of really   high profile Jews,   evidently. And we'll see because this guy's got the goods on them. I really encourage you to watch it. You and the audience go find it somewhere.   I I would say go over and just go to, like, Rumble and put in our bit shoot and and put in Ron Gibson.   And his channel will come up, and that show will be there among the others there. So you can find it that way.  

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Yes? I really like,   what Ron Gibson does. He's got a backup channel called General Shepherd, and that's the one I use.   But I love it because it cuts out all the commercials.   Yep. So you take,   you know, three hour, four hour show. It gets chopped down.   And then I play it back. If you learn how to go into your settings, your video settings on Rumble,   you can   pull up the video and look for   either a gear or three dots.   It depends on what you're using it on device.   And you open that up and it'll have it,   you can play it back faster at a faster speed like 1.25   or 1.5.  

And then if you're if you're using your phone's   internet screen,   you can take the quality down to a lower one and it won't buffer.   So if you're trying to watch it at ten eighty   high resolution,   it might buffer if you start trying to play it at a higher speed.   So I'll take my my because they're just mainly talking. They don't normally show a lot of graphics.   So I usually take it down to three sixty,   resolution.   And then I crank it up to 1.25   or 1.5. That helps me get through that video quicker.   You know, I mean,   when you got videos that are two hours, three hours, you know, it doesn't take much of those and your day is gone.  

So,   I try to cut those down as much as possible.   I also took your link that you sent me on,   on Skype, and I I   posted it on the Chitango channel. That's Yeah. The number two, numeral two, radio ranch   dot chitango   dot com.  

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Paul, could you go over there and grab that and maybe just play a couple of minutes of this?   I mean, just arbitrarily,   about twenty after or something. Just flip in and just if you could just put a couple of minutes of this up and see what it covers and,   folks to get an idea of this because my sense   is that this is really important.   Can you do that at all?  

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So you put the link in in,   Chitango.  

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Yeah. And FCC.  

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You put it in FCC.  

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FCC. So you have two different places you can  

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Okay.   Can you drop it in there again so it's in the bottom?  

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In the on the FCC?  

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Yeah. Just drop it in FCC again so the link is at the bottom.  

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Okay. Hang on. Yeah. Some people have posted in front of me. Nope. That's not it. Yeah. There's there's a whole bunch  

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of bunch of folks listening. Oh, wait a minute. Well, there's the third hour Jason Goodman. You talking about that? Yeah. That's it. That's it.   Okay.  

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Yeah. Just dial up somewhere 20 after or something at the top of the hour and just see we'll we'll just cut into their conversation. I don't want to play the whole thing. It's almost forty five minutes long, but it's really   I my sense is this the whole their whole scam is unraveling. That's why the Jews are so apoplectic   is they're getting exposed, their whole deal's getting exposed, and, they can't handle it.   The only thing they knew need know to do is to lash back. And the more they lash back, the more they expose themselves. It's the   snake eating the tail.  

So, anyway, I, as again, my sense is this may turn out to be something very important, and I want y'all to get a taste of it. So   have you been able to get that, Paul?   He's feverishly working. I can tell. I am feverishly working.   The sweat from his brow is coming through my Zoom connection. What, Mark?  

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The other interview I'm really interested in and haven't had a chance to watch it was,   Tucker   interviewed   Patrick Lancaster, who's a journalist, and he's on the front lines in the Russian,   army,   watching this Ukraine war and reporting on it, but nobody will interview him.   Oh. Send me a link to that, please. I will. I'm getting ready to post it. So   but, yeah, I think that's gonna be an exciting interview,   and I'm pulling it up on YouTube right now.  

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Uh-huh. Okay.  

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I'm  

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there for all of us. Oh, I will. I will. Brent. But Yep. But,  

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on the road again?  

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American Journal. Where? Three or three Tuesday, 04:24.  

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Yeah. Where are you and your sojourn there, Brent? What part of the country are you in now? Mississippi, Alabama,   Louisiana?  

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I'm over in I'm in West Memphis on the cusp, for my last leg.  

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Okay.   Alright. Well, you you drive careful. K? Which I know you will, but I'm gonna tell you anyway.   Paul, do you have that thing queued up a little bit? Got it. Let's do it. Okay. I mean, you're exactly right about the the cabal that's operating  

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in the judiciary,   in America these days. And we've we've covered it, especially in certain districts, like the District Of Columbia. A third or half the judges aren't even American born. And then when you look into their background,   they were never judges before appointed to the one of the highest courts, like, the second highest court in the land. They were,   like, exclusively left as activists. They're lawyers, but they worked for, like, the ACLU or the SVLC. I mean, they were left as activists   until Obama came along and put a judge robe on them, and now they're stopping Trump's agenda,   you know, across the board. So the there has been a very long campaign to install these people knowing that they're friendly. And I think this is fascinating because when people used to ask me, you don't hear a lot about the Illuminati anymore because now the evil is just out in the open. But back in the day, people would ask me, like, what do you mean Illuminati? And I'd always say, like, well, think about this.  

The rich people know these tricks. They know how to, like, keep money off shore in The Bahamas and not pay taxes on it and avoid the legal consequences of that.   And you can't get into you can't do that without knowing these people. You have to know the right lawyers. You have to know the one. You have to be welcomed into their club, and then they'll give you access to these secrets, where to hide your money, how to play the game, how to cover it up, who you need to know. And until you're in that circle and until they, you know, feel like sharing this stuff with you, you know, you gotta just play a little with the rules with the rest of us. So I think there's an aspect to that. And then you add this this Okay. Let's see what he does. I was gonna say go a little further. I wanna get in the meat of it, but let's see where he goes here, Paul.   Different angle of and what they're doing is illegal and can be used as blackmail in the future. So I I I think all of this is is it makes total sense to me.  



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Yeah. Well, let's talk a little bit more about the district court in Washington DC. You rightly bring it up. It's one of the most dangerous districts   in the country for precisely the reason you just described. One of the judges there, Burrell Howell, was also in the Eastern District Of New York, US Attorney's Office with Andrew Weissman.   They also minted Loretta Lynch,   deranged Jack Smith. It's a viper's pit, that Eastern District Of New York. And that is the US attorney's office that allegedly brought down the mafia. I I think it was   the Colombo family,   but I don't think they brought it down. I think what they did is   they used informants   that they favored. They you know, these confidential human informants   are granted what's called   OIA   status.  

They are specifically   allowed   to engage in otherwise   illegal   activity. This is in the Department of Justice   handbook, and there are two tiers of that. One is misdemeanors.   The other is felonies up to murder. So in the case of Whitey Bulger and people like this, the FBI, including   Andrew Weissman and, you know, some of these people that we're talking about, this is how they think. This is how they operate. Who decides? Okay. This guy can commit murder, and that guy over there is gonna get murdered. Like, how do they decide that? Now Andrew Weissman is talking to Vicky Ward about how upset he is that an MS thirteen gang member isn't receiving   due process.  

There's another rogue in the DC District,   Jeb Bozberg, James E Bozberg.   People have heard a lot about him lately, and this ties to our buddy Adam Schiff. And in my opinion,   is more evidence of this lawfare network that I'm talking about. By the way, you mentioned Barack Obama installed these judges. You're right. Guess what he is? Also a lawyer. Right. Isn't that interesting?   Trump is not a lawyer.   So,   Bozberg,   you know, we've got this signal gate case. Right?   That is also   lawfare. So the lawfare loan scam and the lawyers that we're talking about who are associated,   that's just one part of this. I have been a victim of lawfare for the past seven and a half years. That's how I learned about all this. I never went to law school. I didn't say, I'm not gonna sit down and study lawfare. I just they destroyed my business, tried to destroy my life, and I had to it was do or die. I had to dig myself out of this hole. So I've kinda become this, like, I am not a lawyer, but I'm kinda like a jailhouse. You know? Yep. I'm a pro se, and I've been doing a lot of stuff.  

So when I saw that single gate case, the plaintiff in it is a nonprofit   called American Oversight. Right. And a lot of people who watch crowdsource the truth know that my longest standing cohost and one of my closest associates is Charles Ortel,   who is a very serious financial expert and a complex fraud investigator,   who I never knew anything about nonprofits or any of this stuff, but Charles taught me about all of that.   And this American oversight that is suing Pete Hegseth   and the other members of Trump's cabinet   for sending a text message in an application that the Department of Defense and the CIA told them,   use this when doing these types of communications.  

American oversight is suing for that. And when I read the lawsuit, I said to myself, wait a minute. This thing is a public charity. It's a five zero one c three nonprofit Oh, good. Organized under section one seventy b one a six.   That means there are strict laws around what it can do with the money that people donate to it. If you donate   to a public charity like that, you can write off on your taxes the full amount. So if you're a millionaire, if you're Reid Hoffman or George Soros, you give a million dollars to this thing, you get a million dollar tax write off, and now these lawyers don't have to pay taxes on either. They can pay somebody a million dollar salary. So you're basically getting 40% more lawyer Yeah. For your million bucks.   The other problem so oh, sorry. So   this American oversight,   since its inception eight years ago,   has only ever sued Donald Trump and people in the Donald Trump cabinet, you know, people working for the Trump administration.  

One of the restrictions on a five zero one c three is that it cannot engage in politically   partisan activity. You have to become a five zero one c four or some other type of corporate legal structure   to do that, and it is strictly illegal.   They are not allowed to engage in politically partisan activity. So I made an argument   in an application to file as an amicus in the case, meaning I'm an outside party. I'm not related to this case, but I have certain specific information   that will help the court in deciding this properly. May I please enter the case? So I file a motion asking to enter and then a proposed motion saying, hey. Here's my amicus brief. If you allow me in, here's what it's gonna say. And in that brief, I said, these guys don't have standing to sue because they're breaking the laws by which their corporation was set up. Right. And then that goes to the federal rules of procedure   where if your corporation is not legally organized, it cannot be a corporate plaintiff. So I'm saying they should be disqualified from suing, a,   and,   b, the law, the statute that they've selected to sue Pete Hegseth with is the Federal Records Act. Now this is not a criminal statute.  

It is not a civil tort. You know, Harrison,   if somebody you guys had the horrible tragedy of one of your coworkers   being killed recently, and you can't,   as a private citizen,   invoke criminal action. I mean, you can make a police report, but you can't sue somebody   for murder because it's a criminal statute.   If you get into a contract with somebody and they take your money and leave,   the cops might not necessarily do anything because they say, well, he didn't steal it from you. You were in this position. You gotta sue this guy. That's a civil tort. This Federal Records Act is neither criminal   nor civil. It's an administrative   statute that only   the National Archives can take court action to enforce.  

So I put all of these things into an amicus brief saying, hey. You gotta end this case right now   because of these reasons.   And it didn't get entered onto the docket.   So after a couple days, I called the court,   and I said, what's going on? And the clerks, they shouldn't have told me this. They said, oh, the judge told us not to enter it on the docket.   And I said, that's fine and everything, but the judge is not the emperor Right. And the judge is not the king.   And the law and the constitution   say that the first amendment grants me the right to petition the government, which the court is part of. That gives me the right to ask if I can enter the case. Yeah. They could say no,  

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but it's gotta gotta be on the dock. Right. So But but, of course, they're they're not gonna let you enter it because it sounds like you have a slam dunk case. More on the other side. Stay with us. We'll be back in a few minutes after a quick Do we okay. Do we let it run?  

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It ends the story because it's pretty interesting, or do we leave this as   a, oh, a, an an   instigator to get people to go listen to full interview? Which do we do here? It's one of those really decision.   Oh, okay. Another few minutes. Is that you? Is that you, Dan? That's Dan. Yeah. Okay. This is an interesting time. I wanna talk about standing afterwards. Yeah. You're you're you're gonna like it. You're gonna like this. I'm a let it run through this story, and then you guys can go fair the rest of it out on your own. As you can tell already,   my sense of this is important. I bet some of you feel that too and that it's worth listening to on our Saturday show for a few minutes. Go ahead, Paul.  



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Okay.   Is is the audio level and quality Yeah. The audio is fine. Yes. Fine. Alright.  

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Quick commercial break. Jason Goodman is my guest. This is this is really bombshell stuff, and I mean He's a good guy too. Using lawfare to destroy us, we've gotta fight on that ground and beat them there because they can't actually win if they're forced to follow the rules. We'll be right back, folks. Stay with us. Welcome back, folks. This is the American Journal. I'm your host Harrison Smith having an incredible conversation right now with Jason Goodman from Crowdsource the Truth. You can find Jason on his personal x at jason goodman n y c.   Crowdsource the truth can be found on x@jgunderscorecstt.  

Let me say that again. At j g underscore c s t t. And it's j g for Jason Gord Jason Goodman and c s t t for Crowdsource the Truth. I try to emphasize this because I always get comments, people going, What was that again? So I'll say it again.   Jggcstt,   crowdsourcetruth   dot org, crowdsourcetruth.   Subsac dot com. And I'm so I I can't wait to pick up the conversation where we left it off because, you know, I I brought you on talking about this this mortgage stuff. I'm so glad that we've gotten into these other topics because this is something that I've been saying. I wasn't really sure how important it was that   we hear about the judges making these decisions. We hear about Boseberger or these others making these decisions about illegal immigrants or whatever else.  

And I always point out there, they can't do that unilaterally. There has to be a case brought. So the cases are being brought by these leftist organizations   that often have   preexisting   relationships with the judges they're putting this in front of. So to me, and I don't have any proof of this, but my assumption is, okay, they get information about something Trump is gonna do. They go to their judge buddy and they coordinate and go, k. What do we need to put forward to stop this? You know, what what do you need to justify a decision of an injunction or or some sort of, you know,   measure to to limit things? And then that's what they do. And it's it all seems very orchestrated and coordinated to me because you have a lot of these judges coming out of these very same organizations that are now suing the Trump administration.  

I love what you said about American oversight,   because that's that's how they get away with this law fair. They have five zero one c threes, but then they don't follow the rules to do to comply with that. They you know, the judges are just dismissing   objections even though they're valid. I mean, they're doing it out in the open, and they're giving it the color, the shade, or the appearance of legal proceedings, but it's really all in flagrant violation of the law. So, I mean, that's just fascinating. So they just completely   ignored your amicus brief even though they were obligated by law to accept it. It gets better.  



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Well, at first, they did. You're gonna love where this goes because you were super dialed in. Everything you're saying is absolutely correct, and I'm gonna fill in some blanks that you're gonna   so   Yeah. He   the clerk tells me the judge told him not to enter it on the docket. I said you can't do that. Got a big kind of argument, and the clerk hung up the phone.   I then filed a motion. Oh, sorry. No. Then later that day, this was also stupid. I don't know why he did this, but he put Bozberg   put on the docket, not a filing,   but what's called a minute order, which you have to go into the text of the docket to read. It's not it's kind of hidden on the docket.  

And it said,   motion,   motion for leave. So that's my asking to let me in the case.   Denied,   Jason Goodman.   And I was like, oh my god. I can't believe the guy put my name on the docket, and I don't know legally if this is right. But in my head, I was like, well,   now I have standing to enter another motion because there's my name on the docket. Right. So I put in a motion under rule 59 e,   which is a motion for reconsideration   when you can point out an error in fact or law. And I said, hey,   Jeb.   Obviously, I wrote it, you know, legally sounding, but I basically said, look. You are denying my constitutional   rights. I I don't deny your,   right and your judicial discretion   to deny   the amicus brief,   but you can't take my motion before it gets entered in public and stick it in your desk drawer forever. You have to put it on the docket and say something like,   this is a super serious case, and we just will not accept,   amicus briefs   from pro se litigants. Mister Goodman should hire an attorney   and then reapply.  

If he had said that   and if he had just put the motion seeking leave without the proposed amicus brief, I would have had   probably no ability whatsoever to do what I did. But instead, and this was shocking,   he granted   the 59   e,   the motion   for correction, you know, the motion for reconsideration. He said, you're right. I violated your constitutional rights.   Enter   Goodman's motion. So he says that on April 9. Now we need some lawyers out there to answer this question for me, but we might not be able to get to the answer because sometimes lawyers have an understanding about procedure in a particular court, and it varies   from the rules, the law, what should happen. But the point is, it says on the docket,   filed,   that's when you send it to them.  

Entered,   that's when they put it on the docket,   and terminated is when the judge has ruled on it, and this is no longer part of the case. So the 59 e motion, the reconsideration   motion saying, hey. You violated my rights,   That   was filed,   entered,   and terminated on the ninth. Meaning,   the clerks now were ordered by the district court judge   to enter   my   motion.   And they waited five days, and they didn't realize what was happening at the time, but this was an incredibly strategic delay.   Because on April 10,   when my motion should have been on the docket in public,   there was a status conference.  

And in the public galley in the court, you had New York Times,   Washington Post. Everybody   would have seen this motion, and people would have said, wait a minute. Oh, Jason's right. This plaintiff doesn't have standing. This whole case is defective.   But   they didn't enter it until April 14, and that took another argument with the clerks where I called,   and   I can tell they were doing shenanigans. I mean, you know, Harrison, when you confront someone, if the guy said, What? Oh, I don't know. And he came back and said, oh, sir. We found it, and because of this nonstandard process didn't go, and I'm sorry. He didn't do that. He, like, went away from the phone and came back all nervous, like, oh, it's the guy. He's calling. You know? And he was like, oh, they're gonna put it on later. I said, what do you mean later? You gotta put it on right now. You've been ordered by a federal judge. You're violating my constitutional rights. Now you're violating a court order. Put it on the docket now. And the guy was like,   hung up the phone.  

Wow. And then later that day, it went on the docket, and now it's been on the docket for over a week. Where are Pete Hegseth's defense attorneys?   Why didn't they seize upon this and say, alright. Don't let Goodman in. Who cares? We're gonna write a motion to dismiss on exactly this legal theory. They didn't do that. You know who acted, Harrison?   Adam Schiff.   Two days ago, he said, I am calling on the National Archives to enter this case. Why did he say that, Harrison?   He's curing the defects   that I have pointed out. The National Archives are the only ones who can bring a case under the Federal Records Act, and the idiot lawyers working in American Oversight paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the likes of Norm Eisen and other law fair scumbags.   How did they not know that? Or maybe they don't care because they know doesn't matter what the law is. Doesn't matter what the rules are. We're in the law fair network. Whatever the hell Jeb wants, that's what's gonna happen.  



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Right. They they'll do what you let them do. What they can get away with is what they can do, basically. That so that's incredible. I wonder if the IRS could be   you know, play a part here. I mean, if it's the five zero one c three thing they're violating, wouldn't that be the IRS?  

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Yes.   Paul stopped it. Y'all y'all   you you wanna discuss what we've heard?   Let's leave it dangling out there. You can tell it's a very enticing interview and   some very, very titillating   subjects and uncovering a major   maybe a major you talk about a big Rico suit. Woo hoo.   Yeah.   So, you wanna let's do that. Some peep couples yeah. Somebody wanted to Dan wanna talk about Stanley. Brent   wanted something, I think. I'd like to get Mark's opinion on what we've heard,   but I'm gonna defer to Dan first. Hey, Dan.   No. He's not there either.   Okay. Brent, did you have Roger. Any  

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yes. There you are. Yeah. I'm here. I was muted.   I'm just this whole thing is intriguing. I mean, I couldn't gather every single detail as they were ripping through it at all.   Yeah. I noticed   on on,   there was a a something on Tucker too that I think it was Tucker,   that that revealed something very similar.   I I'm trying to find I was trying to find on YouTube about what was going on. But Well, you've got this standing. The the blueprint is They're talking about the archives?  

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No. Well, they're in this particular thing, the overall thing here is not this. This just came out as a side conversation.   The main thing revolves around what they're doing with Leticia James,   with her situation of having a home in Virginia   where she said she was a resident.   And that particular one, she said that her her father and her were married so they could get a lower interest rate, and she declared it her primary residency to get a lower rate.   That means she can't run into your attorney general. That's total mortgage fraud. Well, of course. And then in Brooklyn, she's got a of a building with five apartments,   and she refinanced   it.  

And there's a line at four. If you got four or less, it's a lower mortgage rate. If you got five, it's considered commercial.   And she lied about that. She's gotten caught about that. So the other thing is she can't be attorney general   when her residency is Virginia.   That this little scenario   right here, he's pinned on Schiff.   My my one of my very favorites up there, Jamie Raskin,   also judge Bromberg,   and,   maybe one or two others. Like I said, you'll have to go back and listen to the whole interview, but   it's just It's a little Well, like I said, my sense   is my sense is this is really important.  

And what bothers me is him coming in and doing the legal work on what he told we talked about. And   then the government attorney's not even picking up on it and filing it.  

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So Well, it's They're either incompetent  

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or there's big it's either incompetent  

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or or or they're paid off. One of the two. So anyway, Dan, I'll shut up and let's hear what you got to say here. I'll shut up. I'm just wondering how to working for the beast. I never I don't I you know what? I'm getting a little sick of, but I understand it for political purposes why people throw out the option up. They're either incompetent or they're crooked.   You know, we've given too much deference to the possibility of incompetence.   Low level   clerks, people that don't know anything and are paid 20 to $30 an hour only.   Some of those cats, I will agree to a certain amount of incompetence, but those aren't the cats making the decisions.  

So, you know, generally speaking,   it's not incompetence   nine times out of 10, in my opinion, on big things like this. What are the attorneys doing? Just leaving that out there. And how is it that I I see what he was saying, attempt to cure   the to cure the the ills of what he was bringing up? I'm not sure how Adam Schiff is supposed to cure it if the archives department is the one bringing this. And we know how it is. There's an administrative agency for everything. There could be a chancery administrative   item for the freaking   center of the town's   town square chancery court. You walk down  

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and now there's an administrative problem you're going to jail. Here's their problem is this suit was filed a while back. So now all this way down the road with all these other questionable things happening,   do you call in the,   the the agency, the only agency that can file this suit   after the fact and say and join us? They can't refile it. All they can do is join it. Wouldn't you say Mark?  

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See if Mark Well, yeah. They can't refile it. They can dismiss their case and turn right around and refile it.  

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Well, that I agree. They probably could.  

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Well, I meant they they if they went back and refiled it   as a whole new case,   then it would   show the the deficiency from the start that they're covering it up.  

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No. That's what Shif was writing to them. Or you wanted   to he wanted to change and that's it. You can't amend it.   So we got a lot of background noise. Where's the noise coming from?  

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Little flavors that look it's like a little bunny scratching.  

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It's gone.   Thumper.  

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Alright. Thumper took off down the rabbit hole. Go ahead, brother. Filed  

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they could have filed a motion to amend or complaint and fix the deficiencies. That happens all the time.   Alright. Okay. And when some cases of federal court federal court will dismiss their case and give them   a leave of court to amend and refile their case.  

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Okay. Well, then I'm sure if that is possible, that that's probably what's gonna happen.   If she especially if Schiff's trying to crack the whip on it.   So, Dan, what else you got?  

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Well, the the last thing I was just gonna say is is a meditorial comment that I am sick to death   of so much of the legal incompetency   in these high levels that are supposed to know the stuff that that even we know, Roger. Mhmm. It's killing me, and I many of them know it, and they're not Some of them know it and they're not doing anything about it. And it's killing me. It's, And you get upset.  

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These people don't recognize your status position in argument?   Mark, what do you think of this?  

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Say say that again.   What was the  

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Just about the lawyers in general, these legal professionals,   somewhere in amongst this whole pig Hagsat team, there's somebody who knows,   and especially since it got pointed out.   And and then they just don't do anything about it. For the same reason, Barnes doesn't talk about what it is to be sovereign for the same thing. All the civil rights lawyer guy, he's really good. He brought up us something about a Supreme Court case recently   that's showing up on this coming Tuesday, and it's a big deal. I'll find it and send it into the group.   And they don't they don't they don't take that last step and be like, hey. You know, there's two different jurisdictions. And if you're smart, you'll hop into this one where you get all your, bill of rights back.  

Nobody  

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is coming to say You were talking about the competency of attorneys,   And there's a there's an old saying that really, I think, holds true   that 97%   of the lawyers   give the other 3% a bad name.  

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Nice. That's true.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   And so my mentor Richard Cornforth used to say, he put these in his writings,   in his court documents.   He would call out the other side of their attorney and say, well, he's either a liar,   incompetent, or   both.   Damn. Then he would get chastised by the court for putting that in his documents.   And and Richard's   point of view was at least they read it.   There you go. They read that much. I know they probably read the entire document because judges are notorious   for not reading your documents. You show up at a court hearing, and they're like, well, I don't know what happened. What what are you talking about? You put it in a motion.   You know, it's it's irritating   and they they need to be called out on it   and there needs to be some accountability.  

But that's our biggest problem right now and and you know we were trying early in the days with, our our research group in Oklahoma City. It's called Jaccus which means I Accuse.   It's French.   It was about the Emile Zola   story which actually was an Academy Award winning   movie, I think, from the late 40s, early 50s.   I think it was actually in the 40s. Really good movie,   can be a little slow in certain areas,   but we were trying to work with jail for judges.   And jail for judges were, you know, really trying to figure out a way to hold judges accountable.   And, you know, one day it dawned on me,   the the the judicial system   is our last hope   for peaceful   resolution   of our grievances.  

And when you have judges in a court system   that are   not going by the law   and they become political in the 90s. There was this big switch over   and and the court system started becoming   all about politics. So when the attorney showed up in court,   the judge was gonna give whoever the stronger political party was,   they would get what they wanted   unless it was really flagrantly the opposite way. But if you could kinda if it was a case that could kinda go either way,   then the the attorney who walked in who had the highest political   value   in that jurisdiction,   they were gonna win the case.  

Come hell or high water, the judge is gonna   lean it their way just because   they were politically strong.   Yeah. I'll give you an example.   I had a coworker   whose wife was divorced.   She had children,   and she didn't get custody of her children, which is, you know, that just never happens.   Very unusual. And so   I asked him a little bit more, and he goes, well, her her ex husband went out and hired   an attorney   who used to be a state representative.   Excuse me. I don't think he was a state representative, but he was an attorney who lobbied   the the state legislator here in Oklahoma   to give all the judges in the state a raise.  

So whenever he walked into a courtroom,   every judge knew that he was responsible for giving them a raise,   and everything went his way.   Everything.   So   that's that's how ugly the court system is. This is why I say try to stay out of the court system   at all costs. Try to stay out because   it just it will chew you up, it'll grind you down, and it'll take all your money.  

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Please let me repeat it again. Edward Gibbons,   the first engine of the the rise and fall of the Roman Empire,   the first engine of tyranny is a corrupt judiciary.   And who's the most powerful person in that structure too,   is the prosecutor. They've got no checks and balances.   They can free wheel and go real as as aggressive as they want.   Hence, the guy's name that was mentioned earlier, Andrew Wiseman,   who is a snake. I he he was,   he was over the Enron case.   He was Mueller's   chief prosecutor.   He,   used to be the as this guy said right there, which I didn't know, the   U   USA, in, Eastern District in New York,   notoriously   corrupt.  

Yeah. These are some big fish we're talking about right here.   Just a now why could they be doing this? And this mortgage scam, Dan,   at max would have saved somebody like Adam Schiff a hundred and 50, 2 hundred dollars a month. They didn't dangle all this and do all that for just that. There's something else here.   Leticia James too.   You think she risked all that unless she either knew it wasn't gonna get caught or a a great chance it wasn't gonna get caught,   balance it against her job in New York as attorney general. I can't see that, but   there's something more here.  



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Well, I heard Barnes, and I just recalled the the the term. It's It's called confession   through projection.   And then when somebody   has committed some type of crime and they're not so   self aware of it, but there's a psychological   reason they'll project that onto another person   when it's them who's actually committing the crime.   Yep.   Or the wrongdoing. Doesn't necessarily have to be a crime, but   you you have that with individuals. They've done something wrong,   socially wrong,   and then they turn around and project that same thing. You know, the same thing they're guilty of, they they assume that other people are guilty of it too.  

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I guess over and over and over again, they use it. Joe, you were trying to say something, I think, a minute ago, weren't you?  

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Just quick comment in that the 97%   of the attorneys those bad attorneys give the other 3%   a job.  

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Yeah. A job.   Yep. A high paying job. Hey.  

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Do you do you know the difference between have I ever asked you this before? You know the difference between a lawyer and a rooster?   I haven't heard that one. No.   The rooster clucks   defiance.  

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Think about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got you.  

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There's another one I like is what's the difference between a lawyer,   or I'm sorry. Catfish and a lawyer.   One's a bottom feeding scum sucker, and the other one's a fish.  

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There you go. There you go. Go. Don't let that don't let that ambulance stop too quick.   Who else has got something they'd like to bring forward on what we heard there from mister Harrison Smith? If you're not familiar with Harrison, maybe you just get a little glimpse. I just the I he's to me, he's get got to be my favorite Roger.   My favorite person over there at Infowars. He's just got this boyish   charm, but he's yet I'll get you a second, Dave. He's very serious,   and he's got a very quizzical mind. And,   of the three over there, are he may be the most receptive   to our information. Yes, Dave?  

Little more levity. What happens when an attorney takes Viagra?   He gets taller.  

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Probably just boys.  

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Good one, Dave. Well,   I guess we'll break break down into lawyer's jokes. Good lord. There's enough of them, and they're almost all funny. And they're no it's not funny if it's not true. Okay? So,   generally.   So anybody in the audience got anything they wanted to discuss about what we heard or or any of the other stuff here we've covered this morning?   Is he are y'all all still in bed? Bruce is there. Hey, Bruce. Bruce got up. Hey.  

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Yeah. Pretty much so.   I I went back to sleep,   around 06:00 and woke up here a little while ago. Anyway Yeah. When you get in the in the in the court and the judge is in his position,   you ask him to give you   a,   well,   his oath of office and read it off on the minutes.   They don't have that oath of office. They're not a judge. They can't hear the case.  

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Okay.   Sounds like a stopper to me. Roger.   Not very few people use that, certainly. Yes. Julie Julie, I heard you, sweetie. Yes.  

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At the height of a political corruption trial, the prosecuting attorney attacked a witness and said, isn't it true that you accepted 5,000   to compromise my this case? And the witness sat there, stared out the window as though he didn't hear the question.   And the prosecutor said again, isn't it true that you accepted $5,000   to compromise   my the case? The witness still didn't respond. Finally, the judge leaned over and said, please answer the question. And the witness said, oh, I thought he was talking to you.  

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That's a good one, Julie. I've never heard that. By the way, y'all may or may not have heard. There were two, they weren't federal judges. They were state judges that were arrested and perp walked out and changed yesterday.   Did y'all hear about that? Mark, you hear about that?   No. He's not right here. State with it?   Wisconsin   and New Mexico.   One was a female. I think her name was Doval Duval.   It's something along those lines. It started with a d. She was,   well, she wasn't particularly pleasant to look at. She's kind of a,   a, an ugly face and a rather overweight body. But here listen to what happened here.  

She's trying some   in in court's in session.   She's trying some,   MS thirteen or IDV   member, whatever, Tringa Diagua, what whatever it is.   And the ICE agents come in to arrest him, and they kick him out of the courtroom and put him out in the hall.   She stops the proceeding and goes out in the hall   and   scowls them up one side and down the other. She says, you go you need to go talk to the chief judge. And while they go off, she goes back in the courtroom,   pulls the defendant off the stand along with his defense attorney,   brings him in camera into her office, and shows him a backdoor on how to get out and lets him go.  

And the FBI caught him. They had to run him down, but they caught him. All that. So she's perped out. That was in Milwaukee,   by the way. 88. Okay. Well,   I think, yes. Exactly.   I don't think, we got anybody   to say goodbye to you today. Right, Paul?   Bye bye. Some nice whistling.   Yeah. You're right. Very Yeah. We don't we don't have anyone to say goodbye to. So let's It's nice whistling. It's good for his talent. Okay. The other one was a guy and his wife in New Mexico, sitting judge,   who had at least one   of these creeps living with them.  

And the judge would take their guns, m,   m sixteens, the whole nine yards, and they'd go out to the range. And some cops were out at the range, and they noticed all the tattoos on these guys.   And they went they arrested both the judge and the wife and showed them purping them off in handcuffs.   Okay?   So it's not up to the federal level yet, but there's activity. And my understanding is they there is a   ton of work going on behind the scenes.   And   they're gonna do it as right as they can, obviously.   You're   facing some of the slickest   attorneys that whose minds have ever   been awarded with a certificate to practice law, unfortunately.  

These people are just slime. This Andrew Wiseman guy. I mean, he's just slime.   Go look into his background. You know?   Anyway, maybe there'll be a a climax. The other side is,   you know, if if Trump bends over much more for the Jews, he's gonna break in too.   It's   oh, these people.   That's why our folks, again, our information is so powerful. It's the only thing that stops them.  

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Hey, Rod.  

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And it exposes them at the same time,   and it gives us our freedom simultaneously.   It's a powerful weapon. It may not look that way. You may initially think it's just another piece of paper, but it's not. I promise.   Yes. He was trying to say something right there.  

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Hey. That's been William Rogers.  

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Hey, William.  

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What's up, buddy?   Hey. I I got my one of my sons on, today too.   And another friend I spoke to. I I do a lot of speaking engagements. I brought a one of the ladies on from the speaking engagement that I had, done earlier this week as well.   Just kinda let them see what's going on. My son did take a look a little bit of,   me view the website a little bit this morning, but he probably he probably just gonna be listening in today.   But I I do have a,   a I do have a question,   on that ID. Now, Tony Tony, if you're there, you might wanna chime in. Tony sent me something on this,   the ID.  

And Julie, she put it in the, in our group text too,   regarding,   Ron Ron Paul was discussing the the IDs.  

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Are you talking about the real ID?  

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The real ID. Yes. Yeah. That's it. Okay. Mhmm. There's a simple remedy to that. The national   go ahead. Go ahead. That's why I'm gonna say the national status would supersede that.  

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Yeah.   Because   all it says is if you don't wanna get a a star ID, go get a passport.   Play right into your hands.  

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Right. That's what I thought. Okay. Okay. Okay. But, Tony, you can expound on it if you want to. Or, Julie, if you don't wanna expound on it other than what Roger just said, but I guess it's pretty much that's cut to dry.   Yep. And, Savion, Savion, you just send it to me to my son. He just sent it to me so I'd wanna   if you had a question on it too, Savion.  

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Uh-huh. They're they're, that's a really important step in this. You don't have to get a whole passport book.   You can just get a passport card.   I'm sure that will suffice. It's only $30.   Well, hell, man. $30 ain't very much for the highest   rated   form of identification   in the federal government.   And it's not only that, but it's also attached to your affidavit if you include it. So,   yeah, it's a no brainer play right there, and then you avoid all that other crap.   You know, William, you you hadn't been around too long, you and Tony and your bunch there,   but, we've we've had people that that's the only thing they carry as an ID is their passport card.  

Get stopped, use a passport card, have a nice day, drive safe,   a number of incidents along the way.  

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Roger Bruce again?  

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Yes. Bruce again.  

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Alright.   Guess who's the this most powerful   card you can play   with them. Is you yourself knowing the information.  

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They can't jump over that. It's too high for them to jump.   I I don't   I don't know how many times I or ways I can say it, but the your your degree of freedom, if you wanna put it that way, how free you wanna be,   is directly proportional   to how well you make this information yours.   That's where your ability to defend your position and all the other positive things come from that right there. It's not gonna happen overnight. This I know we're all we're all conditioned to instant gratification.   You know, got a headache? Take this aspirin. You want that over there? Here. Go charge it. We we're we're all conditioned to instant gratification,   but you can't do that this way. And I'm sorry, and and I don't charge any money for the hundred plus years of research   that I put in front of you, not just me, but my two teachers.  

But you're gonna have to pay something for your freedom. Just because free is in the word freedom,   it doesn't necessarily   come free. There's always something you gotta do. You're gonna have to sacrifice   and   get your brain cells working again. Okay? Learn something.   Grow something. You're gonna increase that attachment as you do to the to the big guy up above who you we were supposed to have his rights from the start. We were told that we did. And underneath the covers is this little trick where Esau Edom stole his birthright back. That's all it is. Okay?   And,   but that you want that and you wanna really become powerful,   you you learn this information where it's second nature to you. And that it'll it'll take time, but it's it'll come.  

And when that happens, you will not believe   the re empowerment   that you gain.   I'm telling you. It's I I saw it in me   over the years. But when I started doing these radio shows and got people on,   that that also really grew,   rapidly in front of you, and you could see I could see what I already knew in me and other people. And when I did that, I could identify it. And this is this connection to me back to the big guy and the powers we were supposed to have at birth have been stolen from us. We're we've got access to those again. And now,   like a wound, this regrowing nerves or something, you've gotta regrow those connections to him. And the way you do it is you immerse yourself in the information.  

And by doing so, you become as free as you can be. I I don't know any other way to do it.   You you can't do this by paying people.   This is why that I don't charge. One of the reasons is because then everybody's got an excuse. Oh, he's just in it for the money. And that that that. Well, it wasn't in it for the money. I don't give a damn about money. Okay? Quite frankly. But,   I I I did know these things. And then if you do go that route, however,   and you go find some guru that you like, he's gonna baffle you, and you're gonna go, boy, this is really   complex.  

I can't understand it. So you don't understand it. They're gonna charge you $4,500,   2 thousand, trust, whatever.   They're gonna charge you. You're gonna get the document done. You're gonna get it filed.   You're not gonna go study.   You got no incentive to study. You paid somebody to do this for you. He's supposed to be the guy. Well, what if he's not available when you need him? Okay?   So this is that   that,   then the problem is when the other side of this   is when you file this paperwork, William,   the world doesn't change.   People aren't gonna stop you on the street and shake your hand and tell you congratulations,   and, it's not gonna happen.  

So if the world's not gonna be the change and there's gotta be a change,   who's the change?   You.   And you can't change your life and thoughts   without learning the information.   It always comes back to the same source.   So it's up to you. I can't make you do it.   And that's one of the other reasons this has been so difficult is I gotta go out there and find you people. I gotta find somebody that you know or yeah. I was on some show you watched or somebody mentioned my name in a a list of chats or something. Okay? But you had to seek this. And you see, that's an interesting look on power, isn't it?   Because dark power,   their power,   has to reach out and touch you to be effective, doesn't it? Or you got to fly into the net somehow, the matrix net.  

Well, white power or good power, if you will,   is has to attract.   That's the moth to the flame.   Okay? So   I gotta put out this information and hope that it registers with people and they wanna go through it, learn it, talk about it, whatever, but help spread the word. Because, boy, when we spread the word,   our enemies are scared as hell of us just in sheer numbers of ignorant   people. Man, can you imagine   a a small army of folks like us that are all are are,   iron sharpens iron on this material right here and can combat any of their crap. You back them so tight in the corner. The only thing they can do is take the mask off and be an open tyrant.   They know what happens when that happens. That's why they haven't done it. That's why they do it under this soft velvet glove that they worked   a hundred years or more to set up where everything's backwards,   where they can get you to answer those two questions and sign something, and we'll we'll just gotcha.  

Gotcha. Oh, you don't understand that? Well, we got plausible deniability.   No. You don't.   Not here. Not now. Not anymore.   Mhmm. K. So sorry. I'm subject to Alex Jones. Yes. Larry.   Yes, Larry.  

[01:10:17] Unknown:

Can you hear me?  

[01:10:18] Unknown:

Yeah, man. Can you hear me? Yeah. Well, I'll I'd like to  

[01:10:23] Unknown:

yeah. I'd like to offer a suggestion. You brought up the passport to William.   It's always a good idea to,   make copies of the front and back of your passport and maybe laminate them and have a couple of copies.   And then if if you get stopped by law enforcement,   do not hand them your   your actual passport. Hand them a copy and let them run the numbers   if they have the capability. And if they don't,   you can tell them to call up ICE,   and ICE can run the numbers.   And, you know, you should be listed as a national   in their database if everything was done properly.  

And the reason I say that is because   last summer,   on the after show,   and Paul knows about this, we had a student in I think it was South Carolina   who who was stopped by law enforcement,   and they I guess they were after his wife because there's an arrest warrant out for her. And I think he said they stopped him because   they were trying to get information.   And, but, anyway, he handed over his passport card,   and they they confiscated it. And then he had to go through all of these loops, these these hoops   to try to get a new one or whatever.   And, he's the guy that liked to be identified as a foreign national.  

Now I don't necessarily agree with that, but he would when he was stopped by the officer, he kept referring to himself as a foreign national Yeah. And quoting he was just quoting all of these   laws and statutes on the side of the road of this officer, which I don't think the officer had any idea what this guy was talking about. No. But, anyway Yeah. The point of the story is don't hand over your actual passport card, hand over a copy,   because if they confiscate that, then you're flat out of luck.  

[01:12:15] Unknown:

Okay. Let me make a couple of suggestions. We suggest   anybody down here, all of us, do that because you don't wanna carry your passport   because you don't wanna lose it or have it stolen.   Because if you do, it is a royal pain in the ass to get it replaced   because I had that happen. Okay?   So instead of doing the hundred and 40 or $50   passport book, which Larry's referring to, just do the $30   card.   Now you can take that card and take it to the copy shop and have it in large, copy both sides, and laminate it, and not give them the actual card. Just give them a facsimile thereof,   and what you've done is you've saved yourself over a hundred dollars. If that's important to you, you may wanna know that and understand it. If it's not important to you, do whatever you wanna do. But a passport will take the place   of this,   this ID, this new ID they're talking about.  

And you only need it to fly. You need it to fly, and you need it to get into government buildings. That's the only two restrictions   to my knowledge.   Argh, I wanna recognize Mark first.  

[01:13:25] Unknown:

Well, you gotta be careful when you're making copies of these identifications   because they could, if they wanna really get nasty, try to jack you up   for making copies.   Right? Forgeries. So,   one way around that is I think it's twenty five percent larger or smaller   than the original.   The other thing too is you can make it a black and white. Or I would even suggest if you make a color copy,   either write in red ink across somewhere copy.   So there's no   there's no confusion whether that was presented as an original or not.  

[01:14:07] Unknown:

Just saying. Now that may be an aspect up there. It doesn't mean jack crap anywhere else in the world. They'll they'll look at it and accept all that stuff. So no question. Well, I'm talking about in the state. Sit there. In the state. I know. I'm   differentiating for the audience. Yep. Yes, pal.  

[01:14:23] Unknown:

Go to a notary   and have the notary make a copy, and the notary will   will notate that it is a certified  

[01:14:32] Unknown:

copy of the original. Of the original. Yep. There you go. That's even better. There you go. So there there's always ways around these what appear to be, you know, obstacles.   Roger.   So, yes, there's Solari again, I believe.  

[01:14:47] Unknown:

Yeah. It I don't know if you misunderstood me, but he did give the officer a passport car, not a pass port book. It was a passcode card. Misunderstand you. That's why I said just make a copy of it.  

[01:15:00] Unknown:

Right. Okay.  

[01:15:04] Unknown:

The problem is the The reason the cop seized the card is because he did it under the presumption it was a forgery.   Okay.  

[01:15:14] Unknown:

Well, there's some real good forgeries you can go to you can go to New York and probably get one for $200.   You can get any other kind of ID up there.   Yes. Who wants to say something there?  

[01:15:27] Unknown:

Yeah. That's this is William again. Larry.   Oh, yeah. My son, Xavier, I'm one one of my son, Xavier, I was trying to get in.   Savio, I just I just hit star six, and that that should unmute you.  

[01:15:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Hello? Savio?  

[01:15:42] Unknown:

Is that your son's name,  

[01:15:44] Unknown:

Savio? Can you hear me? Yeah. Hi, Savio. The s a p. In?  

[01:15:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah, man. Hear you fine. Yeah. Hey. I'm doing nice to meet you. Great. Great. Thanks thanks for having me on the show, guys. I just wanted to inquire about the potential issues if passport verification procedures fail to fail due to inadequate police training regarding   rights of citizens  

[01:16:06] Unknown:

or national I don't know. I I I don't have any idea about that. We haven't had anybody confronted with something like that.   But, the passport   card and the passport   book are pretty hard to forge. They're not impossible,   but they're pretty hard to.   We've never had any kind of of question about it, honestly,   except for this little thing in South Carolina.   What happens, it seems,   and for the people that have the passport card and they get stopped by some type of local, law enforcement,   they don't have access to the database   that can read the card and give them the information they need. And it's like somebody else said earlier,   ask them to hook up to somebody like ICE that does have that capability.  

K? I'm not sure if I hope I answered your question, Sabian, but we don't have any of those kind of complications like that to my knowledge.  

[01:17:05] Unknown:

K. And what about just   observing your right to remain silent during an investigative detention?  

[01:17:12] Unknown:

Well, you can do   that.   You've got actually, see, if you go through our process, you've got more what you call rights than you had before   because all the rights you've had up to this point were civil small r rights. And when you file this paperwork, you are deciding to move back over under the original   god given, capital r and capital d, duty rights.   So you get more   protections once you've gone through this than you have when you don't.  

[01:17:46] Unknown:

And I'm kinda new to this, but with the paperwork, are you requesting to,   kinda   just kinda walk away from the system, or are you demanding, hey. Look. I I no longer wanna be a part of the  

[01:17:59] Unknown:

What you're doing is exercising your right all the way back to Vatel's law of nations,   which says every man has the right   of personal,   political,   self determination.   That is echoed verbatim   in the UN charter. That's why we've had one of the the foundations this migrant problem we've got came from. But you, here's what you gotta learn, Savion, and and everybody does. Me too. I'd learned this too.   They don't have the power. You've got the power.   You gave them your power when they tricked you into answering those two questions. Yes. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? And signing something.   Then you gave them your power, and you're now in a totally lawful and legal constitutional   condition   called voluntary   servitude   because you did it. Okay?  

And so,   that's the deal. You volunteered   into it,   and that means you can volunteer out of it. And that's all we do is we show you how to do just that.   And it is and can be   this simple.   From a State Department website, this is not coming from me,   If you go and get a piece of paper and say, I, Sabian,   do solemnly swear my intent to be a national   and not a citizen of The United States,   you can either send that in as a declaration or you can go get it notarized.   That's all it takes to get out of the federal system,   and they've got to recognize it. They have no other choice or they're open tyrants   because the power is yours to make the choice.  

You don't know that you got frauded   into the condition   with those two questions and you agreeing   with their fraudulent contract.   Now I don't know if that made sense to you. K? But that's what's going on.   Well, that's what's going on.   That makes complete sense. Thanks for taking my questions. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. The here's the big piece, Xavier. Here's the big piece everybody's missing.   It's the feudal system.   They brought in the feudal system   so they can get a property right on you. They don't think like we do. You'll never find that in a law case anywhere specific,   But when the feudal system had serfs   in Europe, they were either   involuntary   serfs or voluntary serfs.  

And the involuntary   serfs were outlawed   in the thirteenth amendment, neither slavery nor involuntary   servitude.   Well, when they went over William the Conqueror conquered England, he only brought the voluntary serf position with them. And that's what we're in is called the English variety   of slavery.   They get a property right on you. This is the basis of the entire financial system.   They you're born into the condition.   They   they recognize that and represent it with a birth certificate   that represents your condition.   You're in a condition of voluntary servitude from birth. They take that and use it as a commercial   document   called a warehouse   receipt   where the paper actually takes on the quality of the good. You can go study this stuff up and look it up. And in that capacity,   they attach it as collateral   to the bonds that are sold to the world in the bond market.  

Isn't bond the root word of bondage?   This is the origin of the credit spout.   Then everything else is hypothecated   credit credit credit credit   credit all the way up the line. So one of the reasons they did this is so they could do that. That way they're not spending their own money. They're not even risking their own wealth. They're just doing this thing hypothecated all on credit. And the origin of it is right there. With you as property,   they extend your future work and labor   as collateral,   and that's what your income tax does, is it takes the money out of your pocket and goes to pay the bondholders   their coupon payments.  

K? The other side   is that allows them with a property right on you.   It allows them to erupt erupt   erect erect   a   well, let's see. Thomas Jefferson said it best in the Declaration of Independence.   They have erected   swarms   of offices   and sent hither   swarms of officers   to harass us and eat out our substance.   It's exactly the administrative   state right there, right from the Declaration of Independence and Thomas Jefferson's   ends.   Also, I meant to use another   Jefferson quote a little bit earlier when I was talking about   understanding and well, you really wanna make this information yours. Okay.  

The more you do that, the better off you are.   And, Thomas Jefferson's famous statement is, those who expect to be ignorant and free   expect what never was   and never will be.   Straight from the Tim, pen of TJ, and absolutely   dead accurate.   So, Savion,   welcome. I hope you'll come back and and look into this deeper.   I think you're gonna find how old are you, Savion?   Are you there?   Yeah.   Is that you, mutant?   William, how old is your son?  

[01:24:00] Unknown:

Bam, I hope we didn't lose him in the middle of that explanation. Yeah. I I I have my phone muted now. I was doing Okay. Save me on we have put save me on twenty sixth.   Should be 26 of it. So now I got so many kids.  

[01:24:13] Unknown:

Fantastic, Savion. You're so fortunate that this information has crossed your path at a a relatively young age.   And, you follow-up on it to your satisfaction,   and we're always here six days a week to answer your questions. Okay?   Roger. Alright. Yes. Larry. Hey, Roger.  

[01:24:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Wow. It almost sounded like maybe,   maybe   Sabian could clarify   if he's still there. It almost sounded like he used the word nationalist   instead of national.  

[01:24:46] Unknown:

Well, he might have. His father was thinking that Christian nationalism   and stuff when they came around. Yeah. I'll get you in a minute, yeah, Dubin Hetje. Yeah. Go ahead, Savion.  

[01:24:59] Unknown:

I think we may owe what he he Go ahead. Citizen Savion, you said? Instead of,  

[01:25:04] Unknown:

yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah. I hear you, please. Somebody just wants to step on you. You know? Okay. Yeah. How would you Your dad may be talking at the same time. I hear you, Savion. Go ahead, please.  

[01:25:15] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. I think what I was saying was,   instead of a citizen,   I said nationalist because the the terminology is citizen meaning that you are a US citizen. So when I said I wanted to clarify with nationalist or nationalistic   Mhmm. Whatever terminology you all use.  

[01:25:31] Unknown:

Well, let me use muddy the water a little bit for more for you. You are a citizen. You're just a capital c citizen of The United States Of America   and not a small c citizen of the federal United States.   So you still are a citizen, but it's a very specific   type. You have to learn   specificity here.   They've tricked us with they set us up with generalizations,   Xavier, and then they come in and use these little tricks and and hog tie you with specificity.   So you gotta start thinking specificity   and learning it that way. Okay?   So, anyway, I hope you follow-up on this. It's life changing information.  

And,   I, you know, I keep expecting the black community to get absolutely   more pissed off than they are. They're pissed off in the wrong way. And, to realize that they've used you folks to enslave everybody.   That if I was black, it'd piss me off.  

[01:26:33] Unknown:

Exactly. Exactly.  

[01:26:34] Unknown:

You you went from the southern plantation   to the federal plantation,   and they're taking you at least 60%   of your wealth.  

[01:26:43] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep.   And then on top of that   on top of that, because the dollar   based on all this is the our world's reserve currency,   they've used it and us to enslave the rest of the world.  

[01:26:59] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:27:03] Unknown:

I was trying to say yes. Let's look who's here.   Yes, sir. Go ahead.   You're not it's Saturday, so I know you're not in the bathroom.  

[01:27:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm at the I'm at the other job site. Can you contrast the difference between a serf and a slave?  

[01:27:27] Unknown:

Well, that yes. In in this respect, it doesn't matter if you're in any type of servitude.   You see, here's the dialectic, the opposites of   slave and free.   If you because it's got a dialectic within the dialectic.   So let's say if you're free,   you've gotta be 100%   free.   You can't even be point o o o o o o o o one slave or you're not free.   So if you're free, you gotta be totally free.   But if you're a slave of whatever variety and label they put on it, you're a slave even if you're point o o o o o 1%   slave.   So there's a dialectic in the dialectic. Okay. You get  

[01:28:11] Unknown:

it? Let me take a crack. I hear you. But can I ask one more question? Can I ask one more okay?  

[01:28:17] Unknown:

Hold on, Wajid. Mark's saying hold on. We'll get to you, buddy. We got time. Mark?  

[01:28:22] Unknown:

Let me let me give a crack at this definition. Okay?   A slave is involuntarily   a slave.   Okay? They're in involuntary   servitude.   A serf   under the,   feudal system   is a voluntary   slave, if you will.   They can opt in or out of that relationship.   Yep. That is the biggest difference between a serp and a slave.  

[01:28:53] Unknown:

And a serp even still has some rights.   They're, you know, not pronounced, but there's some rights associated with serfdom that the other varieties don't have at all.   Yeah. Okay? So does that help? Alright, Wadi.   What's the second question?  

[01:29:12] Unknown:

Okay.   Hello. Hello. Okay. Let me let me go back to the other question.   A friend of mine texted   that that,   to ask   because I texted him and I said,   you would have to understand the full context, but I'm just gonna answer him I'm just gonna give you the answer I gave him.   Because he was we were in a discussion about white and black slaves.   And I and I text him back, and I would also add the majority of supposed white slaves were majority convicted criminals sent to the colonies   or so called slaves. Would you agree or disagree with that statement that I sent him in reply? Well, no. There certainly were those, sir.  

[01:29:53] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[01:29:54] Unknown:

I thought you were asking me that question. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. There certainly were those.  

[01:30:00] Unknown:

Well, I'm sure there were those, but there were also the There were the the criminals.   You don't wanna let me answer?   Yes. There certainly, I'm sure were those,   but there were also the young kids that were,   parentless or ruffians walking around, running around London, stealing stuff, doing crimes. Well, they just grabbed them by the nape of the neck and go throw them on the ship to America.   So they weren't all convicted. Okay?   And I've used the example before.   The Irish slaves   outnumbered   the black slaves because they were pretty much free. The black slaves were $2,000   a piece or more depending on male, female condition, physical, whatever.  

But, there's a lot of difference there. Okay? So the black slaves would work in the house   and the Irish slaves work in the fields.   Now you wanna get the definitive   information and background on this, Wahid?   Go get a book called They Were White and They Were Slaves.   And that is by,   oh, who's our revisionist   district? Michael Hoffman. Thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent book.   And and Michael Hoffman said when he wrote that book and he was going along around the country to colleges   giving talks on it that the most offended people were the blacks in the audience because they was taking away their victimhood.   K?  

So, that's an excellent book, well researched. They were white and they were slaves. Excellent.   Excellent resource. And there's another guy. Oh, I was thinking of the black guy, Tony Martin, I think is his name, that was, professor Tony Martin. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He was a professor up at one of the women's colleges,   and he wrote the book on how the Jews control the slave trade.   Another another excellent source that was on the black side of things,   but there's plenty of information out there on that.   And the get this. Back in history, I had a book, a PDF I found, William,   that was called The King's Jews.  

And back in wherever this time in Renaissance England,   the king owned the Jews. Just like they owned us, he owned them back then. They've just switched the tables.   So who save you and welcome, man. Glad to have you. Love to have the younger generation here that gives us all all us old timers long in the tooth. It gives us a bunch of hope, and you sound and seem obviously very sharp, and we're very glad to have you. Please explore the information.   You'll thank me. Okay? Now who was else is trying to say something there a minute ago?  

[01:32:53] Unknown:

That was I think that was me, Roger. This is William again. Yeah. William. What, man?  

[01:32:58] Unknown:

On that, that sort of king the kings and the Jews, who who wrote that, or do you have a author of that? I don't. You know, I don't. I I've I've lost it in all these hard drive crashes and crap I've been through. Okay. But you could probably look it up on a search. It might come up. I know Diana Spingola has a copy because I sent her a copy. She was extremely interested in it, but she not around too much anymore, unfortunately.  

[01:33:24] Unknown:

Yeah. I would like I'd like like to have that. And, you know, when you do a search on Google now, they'd always give you that watered down crap. So Go to Zendesk. Somebody has it out there.  

[01:33:33] Unknown:

Go to Zendesk. Oh, Zendesk?   Yeah. The rush Okay. The Russians the Russians aren't skewing the algorithm.   By the way, Google may go through some changes here. They got ruled against as a monopoly last week.   They're gonna be breaking up Google,   probably having to sell off YouTube and some of these things. So there may be some changes ahead. I don't know if it would be in their search engine necessarily or not. But   and they're also evidently I've heard Robert Barnes say they're about to write a really big fat check to Rumble too because they've been screwing with Rumble. Did you ever latch on to Robert Barnes? I know we touched on it, William. Had have you ever gotten latched up with him yet?  

[01:34:22] Unknown:

He's the No. I haven't I haven't yet. I'm sorry. I know. You know, when I well, I was talking about the Barnes review and Willis Cardo.  

[01:34:30] Unknown:

Yes. Willis Cardo, who I've met before, by the way.  

[01:34:34] Unknown:

Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. That's that's I was getting that misconstrued with the with the barn that you were talking about. You were we weren't talking about the same barn. I was talking about the barn just because I loved it. Yeah. You do that. You're gonna you're gonna love Robert Barnes. Okay? And he's  

[01:34:48] Unknown:

He's   on with another guy called Viva Frei,   f r e I, who's a Canadian attorney not not practicing   with all his wild hair and stuff. And they have a, well, a partnership, if you will, looks like. And,   they, do a show every Sunday night   going over and analyzing the week's late, legal activity around the country, state and federal.   If you're into that sort of thing, I believe you'd really like them. Wherever freedom is challenged,   Robert Barnes will appear.  

[01:35:23] Unknown:

Okay. Robert Barnes, what's the the the fry? You said fry?  

[01:35:27] Unknown:

Fry, the other guy's f r e I. Their, site,   if you is, vivabarneslaw.locals.com.   Viva,   all one word, vivabarneslaw.locals.com.   And they they've got Dot locals. Shows and   they got a what what what do you say? They've got a hundred thousand members in their community over there.   And I I know there's some real sharpens, a lot of   yeah. Something. A whole bunch are are over there Hey, Seth.  

[01:36:04] Unknown:

So, anyway, check it out. You want it? Yep. Yes. Yep. Let me get clarification on it. Veeva and then b a r n e s or b a r n s?  

[01:36:13] Unknown:

No. Barneslawes..localsOkay.  

[01:36:18] Unknown:

Com.  

[01:36:19] Unknown:

And then they're on every sat every Sunday night from about,   what, five, six to eight or so, Mark, something like that early evening, late afternoon. Five central time. From five central time till about seven.  

[01:36:35] Unknown:

Okay. So And Well, they'll they'll  

[01:36:37] Unknown:

do about they'll do about an hour on on Rumble, and then they switch over to their paid members. They call it after show.   So they go or after party, I guess, is what they call it. So they have an after party,   and they continue the conversation over there. I may join back with them because   Barnes has started teaching about different aspects of law.   Where before, it was just I don't know. I didn't find very much value out of being a paid member.   But now that he's got these,   segments where Barnes is teaching about different aspects of the law, I'll probably join back.   But it's only $10 a month.  



[01:37:16] Unknown:

He's a Okay. Okay. He's a very impressive attorney. I believe you'll really like him if you can find him there, William.  

[01:37:24] Unknown:

Good guys. He's a  

[01:37:27] Unknown:

Chattanooga boy. He's,   moving back to Chattanooga from Las Vegas,   here, this year too. So probably in process of that right now.   Anyway,   I highly recommend it. He,   has been around a long time. He's got a real good sense. People know who he is. He's effective.   He's a very effective communicator,   and I think Mark would agree that,   at least I am, I'm just amazed with his   totality   of command   of every damn thing that seems to be happening all over, not only The US, but the world.   So, anyway, go check that out. I believe you'll like him.  

[01:38:06] Unknown:

That's impressive.  

[01:38:08] Unknown:

So, William, you got any other questions? You, I see I guess you're coming along Yeah. Getting your arms around our stuff. Right?  

[01:38:16] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Just one other comment that I I adamantly disagree with Roger on, and that is when you and I'm just I'm kinda joking in a way, but I don't like to use the word what they're doing to us. I believe it's what we're allowing them to do to us. We're allowing them. We're just as guilty   of it as they are.  

[01:38:34] Unknown:

Well, they are, but we are. I I don't agree with that statement, but they're doing it all with fraud on stuff we didn't understand.   You didn't understand when you signed those two questions and and checked them yes and signed something what you were doing and what what it implicated to you. So in a sense, you're right, but it goes back to the craftiness, the deceptive, the trickery,   and the the absolute out and out layers of fraud these guys use to accomplish. They're totally Machiavellian.   The ends justifies the mess.   You know? And see the thing You've got the marine corps. People about this, you gotta say you gotta remind them. Say, look.  

If you're gonna you wanna discuss this, you gotta agree with me that they don't think like we do.   Okay? Because if you don't admit that, you're gonna know that couldn't be. No. That could look. They don't think like us, but they know how we think. And they've been studying us for centuries.   And they knew in the eighteen   sixties   that they were gonna ask you those two questions a hundred years later, and they knew that you'd answer yes and sign something.   That's who that's our enemy right there.  

[01:39:48] Unknown:

Roger, they don't follow any social norms either.   So No. It it is you know, when I don't think people really quite grasp what it means by,   the means justifies the ends.   That means they are willing to do anything, break the law,   violate God's law,   and cheat, steal, lie, kill   to get what they want. You know what I mean? Typically   and typically, the conservatives   won't do that. They will, you know, they'll be try they'll try to be respectable,   honorable,   and go by the rules.  

[01:40:26] Unknown:

Right. And that's our weakness, and they take advantage of it. You know where that came from, don't you, Mark?   No.   The prince.   That's why they call it Machiavellian.  

[01:40:36] Unknown:

Oh, the book.  

[01:40:38] Unknown:

Probably it's Bruce? Yep. Yes, Bruce.  

[01:40:41] Unknown:

It's a new form of slavery.  

[01:40:44] Unknown:

It's what they're in. No. It's an old form of slavery.   Goes back to October   or before.  

[01:40:50] Unknown:

But when you discover it, it's new to you.  

[01:40:54] Unknown:

Well, yes. But people sense it. You know, you'll hear I'm a financial slaver. I feel like I've heard I've heard Barnes say this. They act like they own you.   Well, guess what, Robert? They do.   Hopefully, one of these days, we'll be able to get past your filters and get that message to you because I think it ever man, can you imagine, Mark, what this information   implanted in Barnes' mind would do?   Yeah. Talk about focus.  

[01:41:25] Unknown:

Well, it'll take a physical book. It'll take Devin's book, and I think we could unleash him.   You know? I I think he would he would wise up really quick.  

[01:41:36] Unknown:

Oh, I you know, it's,   one of these days, our day's coming, folks.  

[01:41:41] Unknown:

And Yeah.  

[01:41:43] Unknown:

I just Right. I I I'm I'm having to yeah. Hold on a second. I'm having to go slow,   and,   and that's good because that means we'll have a very adequate strong foundation.   And that's what we want. We don't want a flash in the plan. Yes. Samuel.  

[01:42:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Are are any of   Mark, are you familiar with Bay's Afro Hymn, this is a case, versus Dean Rusk?  

[01:42:09] Unknown:

No. Afro Afro Hymn.   Afro Hymn v Rusk. Sure. We've talked about it on the show a number of times.  

[01:42:18] Unknown:

That should be in our case law pages,   I think.  

[01:42:22] Unknown:

Well, wouldn't be a bad idea.   It's an extremely powerful case. Let's brief up William and Savion and those guys that don't know what we're talking about. This was in 1964   or '6. '1 of the two is in the '67.   Remember? Okay. '67. Right there. Okay. Afraim was a Hungarian Jew   who immigrated to The US, went through all the requirements, got naturalized,   and then they caught him voting in an Israeli   election,   which at that time   was illegal,   and they tried to take away his rights that he had just immigrated into.   And the, the defendant   in the case was Dean Rusk,   who used to be from Georgia,   quite a renowned   statesman. I remember when I was young that I heard his name a lot,   but, he was secretary of state.  

And so there had been a previous Supreme Court case in the late fifties,   which had said they they could take away his rights.   And this one, in the sixties   said, no. You can't take away his rights.   So for for the reason they can't take away his rights,   even though he violated some sort of a man made law there,   is because you have to give them away.   They are voluntary.   You take them on voluntarily.   They can't take them away unless you give them away.   And that's what we're doing when we file the affidavit. We're saying, no. We're not this. We're this over here. And they can't say no.   They have to recognize it.  

And all you do is back them into a corner.   And they have to recognize it   every time   because you've got the power. They're recognizing   that you've got the power that you never knew you had before.  

[01:44:23] Unknown:

There's another going on? In that case, Roger.  

[01:44:26] Unknown:

Yeah. Is there Samuel? What's that? I've not read it.  

[01:44:30] Unknown:

Yeah. It says,   it is here's the quote. It is subsequently   acknowledged by several members of this court   that a central purpose of this of the citizenship   clause, of course, in the fourteenth amendment. Right?   Yeah. Was to create an independent   basis for of federal citizenship   and thus to overturn the doctrine of primary   citizenship   state citizenship.   Ah. That's why it needs to be in those cases   that we're using   to prove  

[01:45:08] Unknown:

why we wanna be state citizens and the validity of it. Well, what and for for saving and for William and other new folks that may be here,   the fine line that we're dissecting now is the two ways on which here adamant is passed. William said he had a bunch of children, Sabian being one of them. And,   so,   ordinarily,   that would have been passed because he was your son by blood.   Okay? That's called jus j u s sanguineus.   And the only other way is by assigning you a political status   on where you're born,   not who your parents were. And that's where they got you because hidden underneath that is the feudal system. That's where the connection is that everybody's missed. And I'm it's not that I'm so brilliant,   but I did have a law teacher that was brilliant that studied all this stuff his whole life. And, actually, he lived his life in the fifteen hundreds. K?  

That's just the way John was.   And,   that's the only reason I know this.   I can verify it nine ways from Sunday, and, I can also tell you that   in fourteen plus years, we've never had one blowback from the federal government on anybody.   And there's probably been,   my guess, at least 2,000,000 people have filed this affidavit because of my efforts,   maybe more. K?   So that's pretty good track record.   But good. I'm glad you brought that case, Samuel. I was thinking about it the other day, actually.   Very important case. And,   of course, our buddy from, Georgia there, from Dallas,   around Dallas is the one that brought us. His name escapes me at the moment because he hadn't joined us lately. Alan.  

Alan was the one studying on all this stuff, taking my word, verifying the things that I was saying, and he's the one that pulled that case out of   some somewhere in the state department,   site.   If I remember.   So, anyway, people come in. They get educated. They get they get feeling. They go off and live their life, and that's okay. Yeah, Wahid. What's next?   Wahid.  

[01:47:30] Unknown:

It it takes so it takes so long for the mic to unmute. It takes so long. But, anyway,   in the chat, me and a friend of mine got into where that question that I asked you earlier originated from.   It originated from   a post from a preacher that   I put on a chat in another   program.   And somebody responded to it. And he said, why don't you pose that question that the preacher discussed   to you? And I   I,   put in the chat   the comments of that preacher. And I want to know if you have the same reaction as that preacher to that response.  

[01:48:19] Unknown:

I I don't know if you tell me what was I I I can't read. I got my eyes on them on a portable.   So you tell me what his reaction is. Well,  

[01:48:29] Unknown:

he was no. The person   that wanted me to pose that question to you was reacting to something   that I posted in another chat.   And we have a group chat on another,   anyhow. And I just wanted to know I just put in the chat where that where the this all originated from. This has nothing to do with the topic that you guys were discussing. He wanted me to pose a question as to the con Well contrasting   black and white, serve, slave, and so that so I posted into the chat where it all originated from. This one preacher   state made a statement.  

And so I posted that statement that he made, which caused What? This other   discussion What's the statement?  

[01:49:17] Unknown:

Good. You're you're we're chasing our tails here, Wahid. What's what is the I'm just saying I I mean, I you would have to play the tape.  

[01:49:25] Unknown:

You don't have to play it over again to see if Okay.  

[01:49:29] Unknown:

Well, I'm we're not gonna do that. We're I'm not gonna chase my tails.   I I gave you the answer. I don't remember what the question was to the best of my ability. So I can't help what somebody else thinks about it.   That that's all I know. So here we go.  

[01:49:45] Unknown:

Well, he was asking what's the difference between a serf and a slave. And I feel like it's very simple. A serf is a voluntary   slave   and a slave is an involuntary   slave. I don't know how much simpler I could make that.  

[01:50:02] Unknown:

And the the position that you're looking at. The   person   that's listening to this, he doesn't understand it. Apparently.  

[01:50:11] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that could be.   The,   the   condition we're in is totally constitutional,   not only in the, I think it's the fourth or fifth amendment where it says they can't impair your ability to contract.   When you're going into voluntary servitude, it's a contract. You're selling yourself to this guy, but you're initiating it. Okay? But yet, Wahib, and whoever this mystery person is,   the the condition   is called   the English variety   of slavery.   It's a nice upscale   slavery because you agreed to it.  

[01:50:51] Unknown:

Okay. Now that that is a general slavery intended for everyone  

[01:50:55] Unknown:

under that term. Well, it can be if you volunteer into it. It can be for anyone. It's your decision.   It doesn't stipulate. No. If you're no. If you're black, you can't volunteer in the service. You gotta go over here and pick that cotton.   Well, it's not like that.   Anybody can volunteer into servitude.   Even today,   you can make yourself a bond servant, but it's voluntary.   It's your choice.   Everything's   got to be voluntary.   If I could impress one thing on young Savion   here today with us for the first time,   go learn that principle.   Everything's   got to be voluntary.  

If it's not voluntary,   it's tyranny.   If they're telling you what you are or telling you what you gotta do,   then then then it's tyranny. Or you volunteered into it   to be a federal citizen. They can control you with regulations.   That's the other half of this is so they can get unelected bureaucrats   in these key bureaucrat agency positions,   and they can interpret the legislative law that's given to them in any damn way they want to, and that unelected bureaucrat can then enforce those regulations on you. He can attach them to you, and he can enforce them on you.   If you're not a citizen in The United States, you can't do that.  

It's that's why you're getting it.  

[01:52:27] Unknown:

And that's why you need your property in a trust.   Because if if you get some rogue agency trying to enforce their unconstitutional last   thing they could take would be to put you in jail.   But that's very difficult for them to do unless it's It is.  

[01:52:49] Unknown:

It is. Because we don't have debtors per year.   Liberty is locomotion. Got a question for Liberty. Liberty is locomotion.   Is that correct? Yes.   Yes. The new pope must be the new pope must be the Canadian, Mark Ouellet,   o u e l l e t.   Okay. I don't give a flying crap. Okay? Don't care.   So, Fraud just Bruce. Alright. Bruce, what you got? Right.   Well, hold on, Bruce. Just first. Go ahead.  

[01:53:21] Unknown:

Your mother and father volunteered to be a slave.   Yeah. And then you were born under   that rule rule.   Correct. And you didn't deny it. You went to   hitch driver's license.   You're a US citizen. You said, yeah.  

[01:53:40] Unknown:

No idea. Well, yeah, we've we've volunteered.  

[01:53:43] Unknown:

Yep. We don't understand. See, this is where they use that mind trick and put those opposite definitions. And all that's done   to get you to answer those two questions, yes, eventually and sign something.  

[01:53:55] Unknown:

Who is trying to that as soon as you I would say as soon as you come out of the womb, you're a US citizen.   Absolutely. And then you further   affirm that by the documents that you sign as an adult.  

[01:54:07] Unknown:

Yep.   And the presumption that you're under from birth,   and you're probably a national,   Mark until your feet totally come out of mama's birth canal. Bam. And then they got the blanket thrown over you.  

[01:54:23] Unknown:

I don't know either.  

[01:54:25] Unknown:

Yes. I'm just speculating. Yes. Yeah. I thought Samuel wanted to say something.  

[01:54:30] Unknown:

I got a question for Mark. Have you ever read the fourteenth amendment   with it as being a trust in mind and looking for trust terminology.  

[01:54:41] Unknown:

No. I haven't. Not not from that aspect.  

[01:54:45] Unknown:

Give it a go. See what you think. It won't take you that long, but Alright. I I think there's trust terminology in there.  

[01:54:54] Unknown:

Okay. Who else has got something here, for me? What I can of it. Great, Mark. Anybody   else got anything here as we get to the tail end of the the Saturday show, bringing on the very abbreviated weekend   for   Roger.  

[01:55:11] Unknown:

Yes. Lady Linda will be  

[01:55:14] Unknown:

Yes. Hello, dear.  

[01:55:17] Unknown:

First, I'd like, William and Xavier to know that the   book that you recommend, The King's Jews, is by Myra   Von Seca.   And I sent it to Paul. It's a PDF.   So Paul is here with the   and secondly,   yesterday,   Brent   said there was no such thing as a fourteenth amendment citizen.   Am I the only one that heard that? No. Did anyone else hear that?  

[01:55:47] Unknown:

You know, when it comes to these subjects, a lot of times, Brent marches to a different drummer. I don't understand it. I'm not gonna argue with it,   with him on it. I can tell   you that I think Brent just can't get over the fact that's that   he I told him one day on the air here. I said, Brent, you've got to be able to think like they do. And he goes, but I don't wanna think like them.   And I said, you don't have to think like them, but you've got to know how they think. And I think that's something he's never   accomplished.  



[01:56:21] Unknown:

Okay. Because if a new person was on yesterday's show,   that   that kind of conversation would put them in a tailspin.  

[01:56:30] Unknown:

Well, I was sorry that I was sorry that Larry brought that up and had to rehash it and get into emotional stuff, but it happened. So there wasn't much I could do about it.  

[01:56:42] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that's all I wanted to say because,   I questioned it, and I just thought I could not be the only I question that. I I can tell you this.  

[01:56:53] Unknown:

His wife, Sue, and Francine, her good buddy that's with us,   they both filed affidavits,   and I believe Brent has too. Okay?   But that was couple years ago. I can't say for sure and it's his business. Alright?   But,   yes, I caught it and  

[01:57:11] Unknown:

It's his business and No, I just want the newbies to to be confused. That's all. Do you let me let me tell you what, Linda.  

[01:57:19] Unknown:

For the first five years, we had Brent on the air.   We had to gang up on him on Fridays.   And sometime, it would be Chris who's no longer with us, Chris Cave,   Daryl, myself,   and Today. Even others. We gang up on Brent   on the show, and and he still wouldn't admit it.   And then one day he slipped, and he said I was down by the border, and I got stopped by border patrol. And he said, are you a citizen of The United States? And Brent said, no. I'm a national. He said, okay. Go ahead.   But he just has a hard time accepting that he got tricked by scratch.   That's best I know, Linda.  



[01:58:02] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I just want the newbies not to be dazed and confused when we ask someone we value so much. Okay.  

[01:58:10] Unknown:

Well, we appreciate it. And it's not Xavier. It was Savion.  

[01:58:15] Unknown:

Oh, Savion?   Yes. Okay. That's a great thing.  

[01:58:19] Unknown:

That's a lot of it. Hey, Roger.   Okay. Yeah. Larry and somebody else. You're welcome, Linda. Yes, Larry.  

[01:58:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Pretty sure I've been listening a lot to John Benson, and   he was or he was going over the fourteenth Amendment   because Glenn said that he is very knowledgeable, obviously, about the fourteenth Amendment.   And John Benson said that the fourteenth amendment was only written for the freed black slaves. It was not written for state citizens.  

[01:58:51] Unknown:

Well, that's true.   But it wasn't only written for free black slaves because you can't tell me   that in DC and all the territories,   everybody that's lived and was born there were black slaves. There were other ethnicities   and there had to be some whites in there. But you see, until the fourteenth amendment, they were stateless   because they weren't state citizens.   They lived and were born in DC,   but they weren't black slaves.   So I I I I've never heard anybody discuss that fine point, but they couldn't have all been black slaves. But all the court cases   that follow Slaughterhouse on   recognize   them as   almost exclusively   black. So it's just something I've thought about over the years. There's a little wiggle room in there, and I don't know what the answer is, Larry. And I've never heard anybody talk about it or discuss it, and I don't know how we would find out about it. I got another one of those little,   dilemmas that I've stumbled on lately with the thirteenth amendment, and maybe we can talk about that, next week one day.  

Because I've been it's on my mind. Hey, hey, Roger.  

[02:00:01] Unknown:

Roger.   When it come when it comes to black codes and Jim Crow,   what is your take on that?  

[02:00:09] Unknown:

It's a well,   yeah. It happened. It was ugly, but it wasn't black and white. It was political.   The new Jim Crow, the black guy, he was a guy that was the new federal citizen with civil rights.   Whitey was the old state citizen with god given rights. So it wasn't necessarily a black and white deal. It was a political difference.   Noodle on that, Wybie. So,   okay. Well, we're gonna find the cost of freedom here   and, and and have an abbreviated weekend. The sun's come out here. It was cloudy and cool earlier, so that's very welcome.   And,   there's a bunch of hockey on this weekend.  

And whatever else that might be the focus of your attention,   I hope you do it, get great gratification from it, and are very safe in engaging in it.   So we'll see you, Monday.   Ciao.   There you go.   Another one in the can, Paul.   Almost. Almost. I know. I know.   Alright. So who else has got Savion? Welcome to the group. I think you'll find the information   incredibly   empowering. Okay.   Oh, yes. So,  

[02:01:30] Unknown:

so, oh, god.  

[02:01:31] Unknown:

Hold on.  

[02:01:33] Unknown:

Hello?   Roger?   Yes?   Hi. It's Rich in, Huntsville.   Hello, man. Question.   Do you know the name   or the year   and the court case or the judge or whoever   on that,   case that you were talking about   for that couple that divorced   from Germany over,   over their child, and their parents came from Germany over to Huntsville. And you you know what court case that was? Or I I is there any way even know.   Information about Woah. Woah. No.   Now I've no. I don't know.   Because I had a long time ago, and it was some   local there. And you'd have to go and get the names, and I don't know them. And,   that's about all I know, Rich. Sorry.  

That was too long ago.   K? About ten, twelve twelve, thirteen years ago. But I do know what you're talking about.   Yes. Who else?   Either. Noob.   Julie. Julie came in right under the wire. Yeah, Julie.  

[02:02:46] Unknown:

I just had a FYI. Do you know who Letitia,   James has hired for her attorney?  

[02:02:54] Unknown:

Oh, Letitia James?  

[02:02:57] Unknown:

Yeah. But her name is spelled l e t I t I a, so I call her Latitia.  

[02:03:02] Unknown:

Okay. Latitia   James. Okay.  

[02:03:05] Unknown:

That big knock Well, let's see.  

[02:03:08] Unknown:

Couldn't have couldn't have been Alan Dershowitz, could it?  

[02:03:12] Unknown:

No. It's the same lawyer that represented the Hunter Biden gun case.   Okay. Another sleazebag. Alright. Another sleazebag. Yep. I yield.  

[02:03:21] Unknown:

Yeah. I I think I think this is a a real important it's too it's too funny.  

[02:03:27] Unknown:

Got made out there.  

[02:03:30] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, there's this and the RC. Okay.  

[02:03:34] Unknown:

Spelled her name differently. It's   Tia.  

[02:03:38] Unknown:

Oh, okay. I guess so. There's some mark sentences. This is brilliant. I think you mean jugateria.   I will I'd like to see that bitch do the perp walk. Thank you. Me and her arrogance.   So,   anyway, I'm gone bye bye unless anybody's got something for me.   Julie, good luck Sunday night.   I I think it actually is I know we you know, winner winners take dinner Sunday night, garage. Yeah. Yeah. You do. Do what? Do what, Paul?  

[02:04:11] Unknown:

I I think it actually is Leticia because if it was Leticia, it would be l e t t I a.  

[02:04:18] Unknown:

Okay. I'm not I'm not commenting on women's   I'm not commenting on women's anatomies here publicly.   So   I'll see you Monday.  

[02:04:29] Unknown:

Alright.   Weekend.   Alright. Anybody,   anybody want to, continue   the conversation, or do we take the string down   and let down our hair as it were?  

[02:04:48] Unknown:

I will tell you what I hear.  

[02:04:50] Unknown:

I wanted to make a comment.   And I didn't wanna do it well, Roger, because I don't wanna upset Roger. But how many of you out there caught that Brent said there are no fourteenth amendment citizens yesterday?  

[02:05:02] Unknown:

I heard him.   Yep.  

[02:05:08] Unknown:

It it shows you where he's coming from. This national status has never been anything to him, and,   you know, I'm sure he believes in a state citizen.   But if he can't recognize that you're born into this fourteenth amendment citizenship   by law,   according to that fourteenth amendment,   that   and if you if you don't object to that, if you don't make a statement against it,   it's presumption  

[02:05:37] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:05:38] Unknown:

Forever.  

[02:05:39] Unknown:

And presumption, unrebutted   stance.  

[02:05:42] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:05:45] Unknown:

And Roger didn't say nothing   even to for a, to clear it up for new listeners. He didn't  

[02:05:52] Unknown:

do any clarification on that. Actually, if you go back and listen to the replay, Roger agreed with him.  

[02:05:58] Unknown:

Yeah. He did.   I don't get   I I you know, I mean, I can see Roger wants to be kind to the guests, and he has a lot of respect for Brent,   but he should have at least given it a   a college try objection.   In my opinion.  

[02:06:23] Unknown:

Is that a humble opinion?  

[02:06:26] Unknown:

What would that college try objection look like, please?  

[02:06:31] Unknown:

Guess I could put one one   or not. You know?  

[02:06:36] Unknown:

I think it would be something like put them up. Put them up.  

[02:06:43] Unknown:

Well,   I I guess you just go back to the way Roger explains it. You know, the fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized,   and subject or are   and,   and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are,   citizens of The United States and   the   state in which they reside.   Well, whose end and whose end not, and what's the difference?   It's a presumption.   Does a presumption   of law stand   if it's unrebutted?   So,   if you allow them to continue to presume that you're a fourteenth amendment citizen and you don't rebut it because you feel that there's no need to rebut it because you immediately discount the fact, no. I'm not an I'm not a US citizen. I'm a national and or an American national.   But if you don't tell them what you are,   then they're never gonna know.  

So  

[02:07:50] Unknown:

it's really up to you. And You'd have to you'd have to admit they exist.  

[02:07:56] Unknown:

Right?  

[02:07:57] Unknown:

Anyway, I have a little paragraph here from Pearlstone I'd like to read because he really feels this thing as a trust, the fourteenth   amendment.   Samuel.   Yeah.  

[02:08:08] Unknown:

Before you read that, I think both sides   of the coin are correct. It's one coin. It's a quebbication.   There are no more   federal citizens that   that that it is referring to the free black slaves. But at the same time,   because it says all persons born and no one can tell you who you are, you agreed to the presumption   all your life until you rebutted it. So I think both sides could be true at the same time.  

[02:08:37] Unknown:

No. You in order to change something, you have to recognize something. And That sounds like attorney talk.   Yeah. He didn't recognize anything.   Here's what Prosthesis.   Under the fourteenth amendment, the citizen   who does not make his choice known   for or against the trust relationship   is assumed to be a beneficiary   because he or she has not stated otherwise.   As a beneficiary,   you are an outlaw   as far as the constitution is concerned.   You are operating outside of the constitution.   While operating   outside the constitution,   you only have relative rights under the Bill of Rights   and the constitution   because private   contract law   takes pry over priority   over constitutional   law.  

You have that choice to contract, and that's what you're doing if you don't object.   And if and and that's how these courts are running, and he thinks there's due process   in these courts.   Also,   you can't have both.   You can't have this fourteenth amendment ruling over the citizenship   and not recognize there's not a due process there that used to be.   So if you object to it   procedurally,   they don't have lawful procedure.   It's  

[02:10:05] Unknown:

that's why the abatement works. We're trying to start in Ireland.  

[02:10:09] Unknown:

Anyway, I'll I'll leave it at that.  

[02:10:11] Unknown:

That's every single time they come at you as a US citizen.   You correct them right then and there, and there's your power. If they don't believe it and you got that affidavit in front of them, then they are liable for suit.   They can't determine your denominator of what you are.  

[02:10:36] Unknown:

Hey, Linda. Are you still there?   Lady Linda.  

[02:10:45] Unknown:

Yes, Paul. What I sent you did not get to you?  

[02:10:49] Unknown:

No. What you sent me was just a picture of the cover. It wasn't the book. Yeah. Because every time I attempted to send it to you, it was,  

[02:10:57] Unknown:

steel mated.   So then I sent you what I sent Julie. I forwarded   it went through when I sent it to Julie. Let's put it that way.   But, I I'll keep trying.   But all you have to do is, duck, duck, go and put the book in,   the King's Jews,   and it will come up.   And I thought you received it. So when I stated that comment that I had sent it to you,   I looked   closely and it did not reach you.   Mhmm. So,   forgive me. I'll I'll attempt to do it again, but I'm I think on your end, you can do it easily enough.  

[02:11:36] Unknown:

Are you trying to are you trying to send a physical book or a link to the book?  

[02:11:41] Unknown:

I was sending you the physical   book.  

[02:11:45] Unknown:

Okay. Well, it's probably too big to not doing It's it's probably too big to   send by text.  

[02:11:52] Unknown:

Well, it said eight pages. So I went to Julie without an issue. So,  

[02:11:58] Unknown:

Oh, I don't know.  

[02:12:00] Unknown:

Yeah.   But all those that are listening, all they have to do is put in the key. Let it let it  

[02:12:08] Unknown:

Yes, dear. That's because you and I have iPhone. I tried to email it to Paul.   Paul, I I tried to text it to him. It wouldn't go through. I think he's on Android, so I can email it to him.   Oh, thank you, dear. I appreciate you. Okay. Paul, I also, Paul, I also emailed you the Leticia case as well in case you wanna post it somewhere.  

[02:12:29] Unknown:

Okay.   Thank you.  

[02:12:34] Unknown:

Hey,  

[02:12:36] Unknown:

lady Linda.   Lady Linda Lubriz.   Yes, Joan.  

[02:12:42] Unknown:

Just wanna let you just wanna let you know I sent you an iMessage   about three weeks ago.  

[02:12:48] Unknown:

Just wanna let you know. About that   horrible,   whatever. Yeah. I, I apologize for not getting back to you.   I'm just been   Oh, I am okay? I just didn't know if you saw it. I didn't know if you saw it, about Yeah.   On a Saturday. Yeah. I've known that character for over ten years now, and,   he's just not my cup of tea. And I didn't know that until I introduced him to this community.   And I'm just embarrassed by his behavior. And even though he does have great knowledge,   his attitude is so arrogant. It's like listening to Jazzy Crockett. Do you ever listen to that girl?  

[02:13:36] Unknown:

I mean,  

[02:13:38] Unknown:

she is. She's another embarrassment.   And that other   woman from Texas,   Jackson.   And these people,   they're just an embarrassment that there are leaders.   And this guy,   he's an embarrassment.   I can't even consider him to be my friend. I mean, he's just   over the line. So but,  

[02:14:02] Unknown:

I agree.  

[02:14:03] Unknown:

You agree with what?  

[02:14:05] Unknown:

I agree that you said,   it's interesting and revealing.   You know?  

[02:14:12] Unknown:

I I made a positive   comment.  

[02:14:14] Unknown:

Yes. You did. Yes. You did. Okay. Yeah.   But,   over the years,   face to face and   etcetera,   he's just not my company. So,   it took me all these years to find the real it's like,   will the real Slim Shady please stand up? I mean, he's like a Slim Shady to me. I mean, just   and he revealed who he was, and   he's not my cup of tea. So   I I don't ever respond to his,   comments any anymore   because I just don't wanna even have him in my he's toxic to me, so I I just can't   let him continue   to have that permission to connect with me.   So I've had to excommunicate them.  

And it's not, I'm not interfering with his freedom of speech. I'm not doing any of that. It's just that I don't have to listen to people that I don't respect. So   that's all I have to say at this point. But, yes, your comments were very well taken.   But for me, personally,   I've had to excommunicate   that personality   from my life.  

[02:15:27] Unknown:

I don't hold it against I don't hold it against you. You know you know, I think you're the best. You know that.  

[02:15:34] Unknown:

Thank you, sweetheart.   Okay. Bye.   Thank you, dear.  

[02:15:45] Unknown:

And by all means,   don't say his name three times. Just like the devil or Beetlejuice, you will summon him.  

[02:15:58] Unknown:

I like you thinking you must talk.  

[02:16:01] Unknown:

Well,   matter of fact, I don't think Betelgeuse was as much trouble.  

[02:16:09] Unknown:

I think they're related.  

[02:16:11] Unknown:

Yeah. He at least had,   he at least had this,   very stylish red and white striped   jacket.   Oh, okay.   That's close enough.   It's time to take this,   time to take this showdown,   and thank you so much for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Sabadeau edition.   Mini weekend,   this is the start of it right here.   We won't be back until Monday 11AM eastern   where, hopefully, we'll be on the full suite   platforms,   hopefully.   For more information on the topics discussed, go to the matrixstocks.com.   You can find the links to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. Press 6 to mute or unmute,   and,   you'll find the streams for Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice Radio Network.  

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[02:17:36] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.