In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates through a myriad of topics with his audience, touching on historical events, personal anecdotes, and the intricacies of citizenship status. The show begins with a discussion about the significance of April 19th, known as Patriot Day, and its historical connections to events like the Oklahoma City bombing and the Waco siege. Roger shares personal stories, including his experiences with local eateries and jazz nights in Quito, Ecuador, highlighting the cultural differences and his appreciation for the local scene.
The conversation shifts to more serious topics, including the complexities of U.S. citizenship and the legal nuances surrounding it. Roger and his listeners delve into the intricacies of the Buck Act, the implications of social security numbers, and the concept of national versus citizen status. The episode also touches on the potential dangers of chemtrails and environmental pollutants, with listeners sharing insights and personal experiences. Throughout the show, Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's legal status and the empowerment that comes with knowledge, while fostering a sense of community among his listeners.
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And there we go. We're gonna take one more stab at it here on a very, very important day. Happens to be Saturday. Radio Ranch is the name of our program. Roger Sales, your host here, and the date is April 19. And that is Patriot Day best. I remember, Paul, would you, please come forward? And I think we have a real abbreviated, list of contributors today. It's pretty short. We could you'd probably do it in one breath.
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You can say that again. Yes. We have a severely abbreviated, list of platforms. Let me just a couple of levels here. Thank you. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and, we're on, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Of course, our website is thematrixdocs.com. You can go there. You can grab the link to Euro Folk Global Voice or a free conference call. You can actually dial in and join us, live on the show.
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Okay. That's cool. Fantastic. Well, little progress little progress, it seems. Saturday edition, of course. I didn't realize until after the show yesterday that we were on Good Friday yesterday.
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Wow. And it turned out to be a Good Friday. It was a great show. Oh,
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okay. On the show. Yeah. Of course. You can't do a bad show with Brent Winters. Come on. But, I have a little a little place that I go on Fridays. They have a it's a little Colombian couple, and they have a little restaurant in in downtown in the little town. I'm kinda on the fringe of the little town I'm on, and and they have a a whole hamburger. They only otherwise, they have a standard menu. You can go in and get a it's not a a great helping, but you can get a three course meal and a drink and a dessert for $3.75.
K? Oh my god. Hey. I know it's ridiculous. Well, on Fridays, they have a, a hamburger special. And so it's like hamburger drink, fries, coleslaw, and a dessert for $4.25. And I like it. It's a good hamburger, believe it or not. And so I've been going over there the last four or five weeks. And so, well, I get off the show, and I'm hungry for a hamburger. I'm thinking about it. It's Friday. I go over there. Well well, hell, it's Good Friday in a Catholic country. Come on. Everything's closed. I mean, virtually everything's closed.
All the everything I wanted to do really was closed. So I went found did find some place to eat and came home. And then, our friend, Walt, Walt Symansky. Symansky says his name. He's a Polak, born in Detroit, internationally famous jazz trumpet player. I think I mentioned to you. Remember remember the show America's Got Talent? He he he wrote all the scores for that. Correct. I mean, he's not only gifted players, he's a real gifted composer. And, there's a big show. Mark, you were out in Vegas. There's a big show. They took and did an, a a a show for for Las Vegas. They may make it into a movie. Hell, who knows? And it's a Tony Bennett and and Lady Gaga.
They they put out an album here, I guess, a while back. Not that I'm into that anymore would know it, but Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga put out an album, and they've done a Las Vegas show about it. And Walt wrote all of that. So he's a very talented guy and, good friends. And, so he still plays a bit. And last night Quito doesn't have a huge jazz scene, but it's got a a a small one. And, so he had put together a little group, and they were playing last night, at a Quito jazz club. So we went up there. It's up in Quito, which I don't like going to particularly, especially at night. But, anyway, it was just real nice and had a nice evening. And, went and sat down. We had a table reserved me and a couple of that, that that is in our group. And, and, man, sat down. There's two lovely single women sitting right there. I mean, incredible. You know?
And so we had a really nice company right there by the stage, and it was just a really nice evening. You know? So, anyway, here we go this morning. It's very unusual for me to go out at night down here, but, last night was different. And then he's playing at one of the got a really nice mall here, called Scala. And I'm not a mall rat by any means, but it's very nice. It's really well designed, well run, all that. Well, he's playing. They're having a jazz night over there next week one night, and he's one of the bands. And so, anyway, we get to see Walt and hear some real good jazz. And, so it's a nice evening.
But here we go. We roll into, and I get up this morning and look. I go, holy smoke. It's April 19. Well, that's the day. By the way, yesterday was the anniversary of, Paul Revere's ride. Yes. It was. So, that we I didn't know that either. So Owen was talking about it. So we're in a rich historical segment of, dates here. And today, of course, is Patriot Day, the shot heard around the world for one thing. And then we had, we had, the Oklahoma City bombing, I believe on on today, wasn't it? I believe it was. And there's and then they seem to stage stuff on on this day to hyphen it up. But today is Patriot Day, so all you folks that have cleared all the garbage and and found the the I what I believe is the right path and have followed through on it, today's your day.
The other people, I guess yes, sir. I guess there's some people still fighting it, but I don't know. Yes. Dave, what do you got, buddy? Good morning, Roger.
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Yes. Happy Patriots Day. It is the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, and it's also the anniversary of Waco.
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Yes. That's I thought so. Thank you, Dave. I thought those two fell on the same day. I know They did. When I was going out to Vegas and John and Glenn would have their conferences out there, one one of the times I was coming home was when the first time they tried to bomb the World Trade Centers, put the bomb in the basement and blame it on the blind sheik and all that stuff. You know, the FBI switched out the bombs and let them go live. And that was one, because I saw the on the flight back. I'd I'd see it in Dallas, you know, or we're at the airport. And then the other time was Waco. So two of those times were like right at this time of the year that I was coming back from Las Vegas for John and Glenn's stuff. So, anyway, there's a little background on today if you didn't know about it. And, our movement has a rich history, and, a lot of it centers around this day right here. This date, I think is more accurate.
So, here we go. I think yeah. Yesterday.
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Yeah. So ABC News Radio this morning actually gave homage to this date being Patriot's Day and the start of the revolutionary war, April nineteenth seventeen seventy five, and five militiamen were were killed by the British. And, the the militias, you know, fought back, and, there's supposed to be tens of thousands of people celebrating and commemorating this date, on both sides, there in Concord in Massachusetts. I was pretty shocked that they they actually made it sound like, you know, it was a good thing instead of a Libtard, you know, going after I'm I'm surprised they even mentioned it.
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I know I see radio. Well, I I am too. I am too, actually, Dave. Yeah. Yeah. There's a man. And then there's a whole big deal today, this big nationwide. It's I don't remember the name of it, but it's good to be white kind of day. It said there's a big I don't know how big it's gonna be, but it's set up by one of the Jan six guys. I heard Owen talking about it, not yesterday, but the day before. And he was putting out an alert because the the guy that is, evidently organized and set this up is, well, not the not the most representative patriot of our movement. Let's say that.
Owen, of course, being a Jan six guy, he's got all those connections and everybody that he talks to, lawyers and, JLs, say this guy is really bad news setting this up, and he put his name in there. I don't remember what his name was. He had his name on the flyer, but they were just saying if you're around any of that today, be very cautious about this guy that's setting this up because he's well, he's just not an honest guy and not an honest patriot is the impression that, that I got from what Owen was saying. Then he went back and mentioned it again yesterday. What is all of these things they're sending me?
Okay. Well, whatever. Anyway, so be careful of that if you're out there around one of those things today. And otherwise, and that, of course, tomorrow's Easter and, important day, to say the least. And, well, just a real key part of the year. You know? A lot of things going on in the spring here. Looks like we're in our summer season. We went from winter to summer with no in with no transition. So that, hopefully, that will continue. We've got the clouds and the rain behind us. All those very nice. You need rain to make it green and things grow like they are here. Did anybody happen to see the third hour of of Owen on Thursday?
On Thursday with Mike Adams that came over and took the whole hour with his hundred thousand dollar microscope. Did any of y'all see that?
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Pretty heavy. Pretty heavy stuff. Doctor Jane Ruby, who lived down in Palm Beach, has a garden with tomatoes and stuff in it, and she had a plastic covering over it. And there was all kinds of dust and stuff on there, so she just grabbed it and sent it to Mike. And he started going in and looking at it under his 2,000 power microscope, and they started finding stuff that they were totally unfamiliar with. And he went in, and he's incubating it at what the exact same environment would be of your lungs. Dark, warm, moist.
And you wouldn't believe what's coming out of that thing. He shows it right there on on the on the tube, and and and and they're growing. Incubating it is growing. And, Mike thinks it's part of the what what are they terraforming the earth for alien species. I mean, it's really worth going back and watching, folks. You'll probably see more of it as it comes further along, but it was it's pretty freaky to see all that stuff at that high power magnification. You might wanna go back and Yes. Yes, Julie. Did you see that, dear?
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Yeah. But, I listened to Dan Cooper on ninoscorner.tv, and Dan Cooper is part of he worked for the deep state, and he did time traveling. And he said our planet is protected by these alien species, and that's not happening. So just an FYI. Gotcha. He said there's over 900 alien and alien species, and that the dracon dracon or whatever and the, greys, which are the really bad ones that we Yeah. Other greys. Right? Yeah. We were promised a million, they would eat us. They we were they promised them a million and somehow some firmament has been put over and some treaty has been signed, and that's not happening. So I don't know, but they've been talking about ETs and aliens now invading us for a long time. Wow. Boy, you can count count on Julie to get it out of left field and bring it to us.
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Mom.
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She's she's a little weird. You know? Put a woo woo here.
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When things yeah. We're not usually woo woo around here. But, you know, when things come up that are woo woo around here, I go back and I go, God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. That middle line is where we are to change the things I can. And I know we can change this, and I don't I try not to concentrate on all that kind of stuff because you don't know if it's real or whatever. But, you can't do anything about it anyway. So, I just try and stay in the reality of my world. But Mhmm. Some people are out there on the fringe with all that, and that's alright. You know?
This, information from the Pyramids from about a month ago of that whole power supply and a whole big another room and all the rest of that stuff. It lends credence to what you're talking about, Julie. But I just can't go there. I wanna concentrate on getting as many of you updated, educated, free, where we can have some sort of a consortium that's that that's that little language from the Woodrow Wilson piece, consortium of patriots who've got the truth and have got these bastards by the shorthairs and can back them right into a wall. That's what my goal is. So I'm somewhat, a one trick pony.
But thank you. Julie, you were due to give us a book report on, the Buck Act. Were you over not studying the Buck Act and listening to this woo woo stuff or what?
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No. I actually did study the Buck Act, and I did, I did call Larry and bother him for help. I was, like, very bothered after I read that.
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What Okay. Can you hear me? Why? Why were you bothered when you read that?
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Why was I bothered? Bothered?
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You were bothered when you read what? The Buck Act or this stuff about all these grays?
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I was bothered by the Buck Act when I read a bunch of stuff about the Buck Act because it looks like they basically made every state, a federal area. Larry says to me not to worry about it because we don't have they don't have jurisdiction over us anymore, but, I don't know. I don't know. It basically says on here, though, that if you, if you do business with, if you have a driver's license, a motor vehicle registered in your name, a federal bank account, anything related to a Social Security number, those are contracts implied in fact that would place you within a federal area and, thus, within the territorial jurisdiction of the municipal laws of Congress.
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Well, I So I don't might be, you know, in in I know in Georgia, they spell out federal lands, and and I I think they do in most state constitutions. In Georgia, it's for its arsenal and needful buildings, and I believe that's the language that's in most of those state constitutions. So, yeah, when you walk in the post office, you're in Washington DC. When you walk on a military base, you're in Washington DC, and those types of situations. But I doubt if the legislators, when they were, considering all this, the legislature didn't really know what these guys had done underneath.
They didn't know about that they'd switched the systems in '33 and that everybody had been put into that condition, and they were still in some sort of a transition from '33. Like yesterday, we talked about Erie Railroad quite a bit, in '38, and they were still in remember, Plessy was still active. Plessy wasn't overturned yet. Okay? So you still had all the way up to 1954, you still had, legitimately, those two statuses that were separate but equal. And and so those are some of the things I'm sure that the congress that voted on that didn't understand what was going on underneath. Would be my feeling, Julie. Okay, Bruce. We're gonna get you. We're gonna we're gonna have a big discussion on this. Just hold on. Yeah. But I wanted to can I just before, can I just say something? It says if if you
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if you are involved in any activity and these activities are not just going into a a, United States Postal Service Office. It's it's it's having a social security number. It's having a driver's license. It's having a motor vehicle registered in your name, and it says, if you are involved in any one of those activities, it makes you subject to federal laws. Oh, okay. Well, you got a motor vehicle that is it, Julie? That's not specifically in the Buck Act. Somebody's interpreting that. Okay. They give cases, Mark. Mark, they give cases. They have all these cases. Who's who's they, Julie? This this website.
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Okay. So what I'm saying is you gotta be careful. You're interpreting somebody else's or excuse me. You're taking to heart somebody else's interpretation. Right. And you gotta be careful because they don't always get it. So I would strongly recommend that you go out there and read the Buck Act line by line paragraph. We weren't
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we weren't finished with their transition yet. They say you're entering into contracts there. You're already they're not asking you at that point, are you a citizen of The United States yet? Because Plessy is still in play. Get it? They still had separate but equal. In World War two, they had divisions of the army and the armed services that were black only. So the Jim Crow laws were still in effect in World War two even though everybody had been put into that very quietly and secretly in 1933. So you they could interpret that and say, yeah, those are all separate contracts, but they were they're not binding contracts because you were already in the binding one from '33.
They had just not finished their transition to equalize Plessy and the two statuses and put the 54 code in place. They were still in transition in these cases we're talking about. So their foundation was not complete yet. So I can understand how people would say that, but, you know, okay. I I entered into a contract with Social Security number, but anybody else in the world can do that. Yeah. I guess if you got a driver's license and you said you were a resident or whatever. By the way, driver's licenses had not been around very long when Buckhat came along. Do you know how they got driver's licenses in, Julie?
Have you co we covered that with you yet? I'm sure some other sort of asked if they if they asked. No. No. No. No. No. It was very slick. They made they gave you a discount on your car insurance if you had a driver's license.
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Oh my god.
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K. That's the way they work right there. Okay? So, yeah, you told them you had a motor vehicle and all that stuff. It adhered to what they were gonna do. They wanna take away your liberty. You literally didn't have any liberty anyway because you'd been made an enemy of the state in 1933. So, anyway, there's a lot of ambiguous stuff that these people all these years in our community that have looked at these things and tried to interpret it. First of all, realize everybody that's doing that is trying to find what we have. K? Exactly. And and and I see where they they don't have they don't know it's a feudal system. Nobody knew that virtually.
And and so they're looking for dots to connect that looks like it might be the answer to how does that unelected bureaucrat over there get to make man made laws and attach them and enforce them on me. That's the question, isn't it? Yes. It is. Yes. So, anyway, well, what else did Mark, you got something to add on this?
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Well, I you pretty much followed up with what I was gonna say. I would really I was listening to yesterday's Alex Jones show, and, of course, it's sometimes it's pretty hard for me to listen to him just because of his bravado.
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Sometimes it's hard for almost everybody to listen to him, I believe. When he gets on this pontification, and I did this and I did that. I'm not bragging, but I did this and I did I'm not bragging. Yeah. And that's what I get here. Part is is it's like over the top
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kinda loudness, and it's and I heard somebody pointed out one time, and I went, oh, that's exactly what it comes across as. It sounds like a a pro wrestler. You know. Like, they're they're hyping up a match, you know, and it's just so over the top. Now I do get what Alex says is he says that wakes people up, but I and and it and it did. It woke me up, what, fifteen years ago. Listened to a little pirated FM station here in Oklahoma City. Knew the gentleman actually ended up meeting the gentleman who ran it. It was pretty interesting. But, yeah, it kinda snaps you out of it because he's like over the top.
But once you get past that, it's kinda hard to listen to it. But I have found a channel on Rumble, and I posted it in the, pre conference called chat, section. And I also posted it in the number two radio ranch dot chatango dot com. That's two. That's numeral two radio ranch period chat, c h a t a, n as in Nancy, g o dot com. And we have a lot of different posts. Sometimes people will post stuff that was from the show out there, but I posted a link that's right around the first after the first hour, in Alex's show.
And I found a rumble channel called, General Shepherd. And what he does is it's actually his guy's name is Ron Gibson. It's a secondary channel. Actually, I listen to him too. I watch all Ron Gibson stuff too. Yeah. So what he does is on this General Shepherd, it's all Infowars stuff. And he takes their three shows every day, cuts out the commercials and then uploads them to the to his channel, to the General Shepherd channel. So what I do is I go in and listen to that because Alex just has some great news guys between Yeah. Between, I can't remember the guy's name in the morning.
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But Harrison. Between him
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Harrison, thank you. Between Harrison, Alex Owens, and and Chase Geyser. Those guys are cranking out news before you'll ever hear it on mainstream Totally agree. Media. And and let and and you may never hear it on mainstream media. So but what I like to do is I can go in on my rumble channel. There's a settings. I can click on that. I, I take my resolution down to a lower level. If you have, you know, if you're watching it on your phone or you got kind of slower Internet access, you can take the resolution down to a smaller amount. But I'll listen it at 1.25 playback speed or sometimes even 1.5, and you just get through it much faster.
To me, it sounds better. But you take, you know, Alice has got what? Four hours? It's crazy. He's got a four hour show,
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and he can't imagine. Himself. You cannot imagine the strain of being on the air four hours. Straight. Yeah. Four hour straight's ridiculous. It's very draining. About it. Yeah. Yeah. Two hours One hour is not enough. Three hours is too many. Two is about the sweet spot for me. Yep. I agree. I agree. But I would encourage everybody to go back and listen to yesterday's
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show on ounce shows. Again, I put the link in the free conference call chat box. I put it out on 2radioranch.chitango.com, and I started it right at that second hour. And again, it's that guy,
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dark journalist? Yeah. Daniel. Daniel. Yeah. He's very sharp guy.
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It's it's it's mind blowing. And the other thing Daniel come across, and and this kind of reinforces what you talked about, other people looking for all these ways to get free from government, and they haven't discovered Rogers information yet. And, one of those things Daniel touched on was, you know, you've got a regular conspiracy and then you got junk conspiracy, which is just a bunch of misinformation to keep people off the tracks. And and people buy into it, and and I understand people are desperately looking for some way to get untangled from this federal government beast, and they haven't stumbled across Roger's information yet. And so Mark people are still looking
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go ahead, Roger. I was just gonna say out of all these years, don't you think it's really significant that and I've never seen another patriot researcher land on this, the two questions. Nobody's ever brought that up before, And it's one of the key things in the whole thing. And ever all of us have been asked that our whole lives, our whole adult lives, and nobody brings it up and nobody sees the connection. And it's the key because that's where they get your your agreement to the fraud. Not only do they get your agreement to the fraud, but then you give them the consent to govern you in that capacity.
The are you a resident is do you do you do you give us the consent to govern you in this capacity? You go, yeah. Yeah. Here I am. Please do it. Beat me. Beat me. Don't just stop at 40 lashes. Put four four or five more on there.
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And I want everybody to understand, I was in those same shoes back in 1999. Even a little bit before that, I read a book called Nundere I call it conspiracy, which is a big Right. Right. Yeah. One of the sixties. It's from the sixties. Yeah. Yeah. Great book. But that really got the wheels rolling in my mind. But by 1999 in my first meeting with Dan Meador, I was getting indoctrinated with all the gold French flag stuff and an admiralty law and you know yada yada yada. And it just stuns me that we're still quoting those same things not knowing any better. I knew better because as I got into the law and started studying and reading on my own, you're just I just walked away from the patriot community. They're just ridiculous.
And it's just really just by the grace of God. It wasn't and Charles tried to point me in the Chuck Ward tried to point me in the right direction, kept coming. No. Roger. Roger.
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Years. I mean, for a couple of years.
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He Yeah. Acting on. Yeah. I guess maybe. And, I I wasn't paying attention. I was I was just done with all that stuff, and I was like, oh, it's a bunch of pain. What does a stupid what does a stupid beekeeper know? Yeah. Well, no. Chuck's pretty sharp, but, he he had a little bit of indoctrination too, but he kept looking. That's the important part. He kept searching, right, for the truth. And it was really by the grace of God, and it must have been because I had no interest in what, you know, Chuck Chuck was trying to tell me. But because I just wrote it off as being patriot mythology and then I heard Roger on our bn show who had Ralph's Winroad show Ralph passed away Ralph was very big on the IRS and he had really nailed it down to that the IRS code is just internal housekeeping, doesn't apply to the general public. You know? I'm really good on that.
And I helped cohost with Ralph for for about a year. And then, I was I I left his show. About a year went by. He had COVID, went to the hospital, and, of course, they killed him. And about another year went by I think or yeah and I was sitting home on a Sunday evening thinking, I wonder who took Ralph's show. I mean just out of the blue the thought hit my head. I'm looking at the clock. Oh, it's 05:00 Sunday evening central time. That's when Ralph used to be on. I thought, oh, sitting here doing nothing. Let me tune in. And it was Roger. And I'm like, yep. Oh, I think this guy's on to something. And then of course I found out that you were on daily. So I started listening daily and I was like, oh my gosh.
Here I am back in the fray, but from a whole different angle that is backed by law and and can be totally supported. And even to this day though I get people are like have you checked this guy's information out have you you know they're still trying to find something else that would make sense of all this and there's two things that made sense to me Roger the The U. S citizen part the the the right the freedom to determine your citizenship status otherwise you're just a slave and then the feudal system. Those things locked it in for me.
When you talked about the feudal system that was my big missing piece of the puzzle. Everybody. Matter of fact Yeah. Matter of fact, in the first hour of Alex's show yesterday, he referred
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that we're still in the feudal system. Yes. He did. He said that that's the most popular way of government.
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Yeah. I'm like, woah. He's so close. He doesn't even know it.
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Has been around he has really hit around it. I've heard it a number of times live on the program, and he's all over it and all around it, but he doesn't get it yet. And hopefully, he will, you know, because he is aware of that. That's for sure.
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Right. So I, you know, I still get a few people here and there that'll that'll email the straw man wanting to know if I've heard of somebody else's materials. And I'm like, have they heard about Roger's materials? That's the question. Because it freed me, Roger. I'm I'll be forever thankful. Well, it's freed all of us. Yeah. Yeah. But but I for for people out here that are still I don't know what you're looking for outside of what Roger's given you, because it is the ultimate freedom. And yes, we're entering into contracts. Social Security is used around the world.
Here, I don't know how many months ago, you had a program on and somebody was talking about social security. They're trying to connect The United States with The United Kingdom like we're still under their control, and they use the social security as some some like a treaty with The UK about Social Security. And I dug into that. What it was is we had made some changes to the Social Security system, US, and The United Kingdom didn't quite agree with those. So we had two, like, ambassadors who went to The UK and spoke before their parliament and explained the changes, and they kinda negotiated a little bit, and they locked it in.
So The UK is participating in our social security system. I believe Japan is also, if I recall correctly, is from one of our researcher conferences back in 02/2002 with Dan Meader and a bunch of other people, but Jack Cohen, who's passed since passed away, he was a law professor. I could listen to Jack Cohen teach all day long.
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I haven't heard of him.
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Yeah. And anyway, Jack was just a brilliant legal mind and he was sharing how the social security system, they have it in Japan. And it's part of so it's not just United States. It's it's global. Any government that wants to participate in it with its citizens can sign up. So it is a contract. It's definitely a contract, but it doesn't make you a federal citizen.
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No. There's no nexus to to the control. Right.
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Yeah. It'd be no different than you opening up some, stock broker account. You got a contract with that stock broker or mutual fund company or or insurance company with an annuity. There's no difference whether you use a social security number or not or any kind of tax identification number. It's just a plain old contract.
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Everything comes from the birth assignment of you as a surety for a fraudulent bankruptcy. Everything springs from there. K? Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, it's too bad.
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Brian, I'm sorry. Alex said something very interesting too. He talked about the Federal Reserve and the IRS is their lapdog. I went, oh, so close.
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Oh, there's a big battle with Treasury. Have you heard about this internal battle at Treasury between whatever the secretary of the treasury, I can't remember his name, and Elon Musk, and they're going to batter. Do you know that we have three? No. Not Powell. Another guy. The, Elon Musk and and Brit Breenes or whatever his name is. I haven't got it down yet. But do you realize Bessette. Bessette. Do you realize we had three heads of IRS last week? No. They went through three people last week heading IRS. Wow. Yeah.
Wow. So there's a lot of turmoil inside over something. I think it's over the, the Doge expedition in the treasury, but I don't know all the details. I've just heard it alluded to. What, Paul? Do you have an observation, Paul?
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No. No. I'm sorry. I I was talking to myself. I had my mic open. Sorry. Okay. Well, that's how much better the audio is on your mic.
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So, anyway, important day. Lot of stuff swirling around. I was shocked yesterday, and I don't know, Mark. You probably didn't hear us talking about this yesterday. You know this Garcia El Salvadorian guy? Yes. Yes. Know all about it. And all the hubbub, even Hillary Clinton is coming up, bellying up to the bar on this for an El Salvadorian m s thirteen member? That's crazy. You got
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He he got caught doing human trafficking. Him and a and a female had six kids Yes. That got caught, I think, in Texas.
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No. No. Tennessee. No luck.
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Tennessee. Tennessee. Oh, Tennessee. Yeah. They got pulled over in Tennessee. He didn't have a driver's license. Right. And then they got six kids, and nobody has luggage.
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And and the FBI contacts the Tennessee State Patrol within two hours of them being pulled over. Yeah. Yeah. Says take care of every federal
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there are some federal actors, you know, in on that.
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This guy's a player, and somehow, he was seems to me he was the connection to the Democratic party in some sort of this child trafficking stuff for senators, congressmen, but who who knows? Okay? Anyway, excuse me. The FBI called the Tennessee State Patrol within two hours in which Brent, when I was talking about it yesterday, says they got no jurisdiction to do that, and he's totally right. Yeah. And, a traffic stop in Tennessee brings the FBI into it. And so, anyway, he, of course, gets deported. Now the senator of Maryland has flown down there. Do you know this, Mark?
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No. Oh, the senator of Maryland Maryland. Yeah. I did see that. Has flown down there and and
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staged a big photo op in front of the prison. Well, I was very disappointed to see that Bucelli let that guy out in their custody. There were pictures yesterday of them having margaritas at some bar, talking to the attorney that's been hired to represent the wife, this senator, and Garcia, and they let him out. Well, you know, I would think if this guy's a key, you'd wanna keep him away from them so that they couldn't say don't let this guy's name out or whoever he's connected to or to try and squash the whole thing. We'll give you a million dollars or whatever. You know? Yeah. We'll take care of your kids or your ex wife that you beat the crap out of or whatever their bait was. Why did Bucelli let him out into their custody? That's what kinda upset me yesterday.
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But, anyway Well, but they this leads to Was that was just for the interview, or did they release him?
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No. They didn't release him. Just in their custody for this interview. Interview. Okay. And, evidently, man, they this guy's got some real information somewhere. K? Because they had they the Democratic party wouldn't get all the way to send this senator down there and then have Hillary Clinton, of all people, belly up to the bar on this too. And the senator so long. Was a sitting senator. Mark, did you happen to see that press conference from, the White House with one of the there's two, white gals killed by this MS thirteen group in Maryland, and they had one of the mothers up there and told the whole story.
I wouldn't even tell that story on this radio show. Wow. Did did you happen to see that?
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I mean, you would talk about see where Trump had kinda had them in the in the White House, and they were telling their story. It was a still image picture of him. He had his he had his hand on her arm, and he goes, Yep. Just
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so. Was probably revolving around this press conference while she was there. But, man, it was just an ugly, ugly Yeah. Whoever did this to this mother of five, 37 year old mother of five, and, man, what a heinous crime. I mean, it's just heinous. Make you sick just listen to it. And that lady, the mother had to get up there and tell it in front of this press conference of these goons that keep pressing the button on this Garcia guy. Well, the senator had no contact with either one of those families, but the MS thirteen member who's not even a citizen of The United States in a El Salvadorian jail, and he goes down there and spends days and go into this extent, and he ignored the murdered people and the victims.
Is this a real there's something really ugly here.
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Yeah. K? Yeah.
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So we'll see as it unfolds. Owen and his and I heard I remember you're wanting to say something. I'll get you in a second. The, the Owen and his attorney, and I can't remember his name. He's a good attorney up there in Connecticut, constitutional attorney. They filed a FOIA suit, with Tennessee and said, they should get all that information back on the FOIA next week on the traffic stop and what all they found and what all they'll let them see. So it's a continuing story, and we'll see where it goes. He was trying to say something there, and I know Bruce. I I hadn't got to you yet. Sorry. Who was the guy right there?
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Hey, Larry. It's Larry. Hey. Good morning. So, the mother of the murdered daughter did get up, and I it looked like the White House that there's, like, White House, you know, signs or whatever in the background, and she did have a response with that senator, you know, going down to visit this, MS thirteen guy. And she said that and and she was very troubled by it, and she did say that he the senator barely acknowledged her Yes. And her situation. So, yes, that is true. And another thing I wanna mention is getting back to what you had mentioned before that we've gone through three IRS commissioners.
Actually, we're up to five, and there will be a sixth commissioner. So But you you missed 20. You
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missed three three in one week.
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Oh, is that what you said? Okay. Yes. Well, so all of this took place in 2025. So you have Werfel. He resigns on January 17, and then Doug O'Donnell resigns on February 28 after 20 or after thirty eight years of service with the IRS, and then Melanie Kross, k r a u s e, takes the job and then she resigns around April 9. And according to the Hill, they said this, acting Internal Revenue Service IRS commissioner Melanie Cross is resigning after a deal was made to share immigrants tax data with immigration and customs enforcement, which is known as ICE.
And then you had your fourth IRS acting commissioner that stepped into the role and that's Gary Shapley aka Hunter Biden whistleblower. So he only had the job for two days and then the next one in line was just a couple of days ago. Deputy treasury secretary Michael Falk Falkender, f a u l k e n d e r, and he's gonna take over for Shapley. And so this implies and he's just acting as the acting commissioner. Right. So that implies that there's gonna be a sixth, and I think that's where Billy Long is gonna get the position that Trump wanted him to have. That's just my guess.
Okay. So, anyway, FYI.
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Well, if you hadn't gathered it yet, there's a lot of confusion at the IRS right now. Okay? And now, evidently, I don't know the I don't know the basis of it, but, evidently, whoever the treasury secretary is and Elon Musk are going at it right now over something Doge is doing with treasury. So there's still a lot of dust flying out there, and it's kinda interesting. Now let me get back to Bruce. Bruce wanted to say something forty minutes ago, and, well, we've just been yacking. Bruce, what did you have? Do you remember?
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Yeah. I remember. That's okay. It didn't matter so much about the Social Security card. It's not your your card. You gotta send it back when you die.
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Well, yes. It's not your number either. But, you know, I'll tell you what John used to say. He says, I have an account with Social Security. They identify it with a number, but it's not my number. Argue with that. Okay. A lot of discussion this morning. There's an awful lot of real important things going on, as usual here, this, 2025 year. Anybody in the odd by any chance, do we have any new students on with questions today? By any chance? By any slimmest, the slimmest Alright. Of chances?
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Well, yes, Julie. You're not new, but we always like to hear from you. Well, yeah. But I, I sent all stuff out to a bunch of my neighbors yesterday and told them to get on the call. So I don't know if any of them are on the call. Oh, okay. Yeah. What was that, ma'am? Get on she's on the phone or call or not, but she's my neighbor. Uh-huh. I don't see her here, though.
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Uh-huh. Vicina. She's your Vicina.
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Yeah. Vicina. Me, Vicina Seyama Kathy. Yeah. So, they're like, hey. Star king. And and you're no star king, Roger. You're no shape, Puerto.
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Alright. Well, you're gonna lose the audience off in a swamp somewhere. If they're all in the people and you're just kinda shy and she's never even lived in a Spanish country. She just learned all this there, and that's pretty impressive. If you're, there and cat got your tongue or whatever, we're we don't bite. We'd if you just wanna get the gist of this, don't get over your head, and think it's way above you. You'd understand it if you had the background. And if you're curious about being free, this is a good place to hang out. Even if you just wanna listen, we've had a couple of people lately, two Michaels, one in Rhode Island and one in Minnesota here lately that have been listeners for quite some time and had never even spoken up. So, that's good. Nice to know you're out there.
We continue with the the things that we can talk about and that come up, topical discussion, law lessons, etcetera, etcetera. I'm glad to have you. But if you do wanna come forward, we won't bite. I can tell you that. Yeah. Also, Bruce, if you'll remember on the Social Security card, it says at the bottom in red, not to be used for identification. Yeah. I'm sure it's not. So, who else has got something, topical or timely or important you'd like to bring up? Or it doesn't even have to be any of those things. It would just be general discussion. It's just us girls here on Saturday.
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Hey, Roger.
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Here's Bob. Hey, Bob.
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Yeah. I find it kind of interesting. I happen to be reading on Citizen Free Press at the same time that you and Mark were discussing the idea of Social Security being international or Yeah. Available internationally. And the article I'm reading on center and and, CFP is about a woman in Spain who had faked mutism after a work related incident attacked by a customer, and she collected disability for, like, sixteen years before they figured out it was a scam, and she was collecting Social Security. This happened in Spain. She's speaking Spanish.
Yep.
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I don't know. I didn't hear it. All all all all of whatever you You did. You really affected the quality of everyone's audio, it seems. So thank you, Paul.
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Yeah.
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Sorry. The heat there all about them.
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Pardon me? I mean, just A little reverb on there.
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I thought it was the Twilight Zone.
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The cyber Sorry. Sounds
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everybody sounds very up close and clear, and it's a nice change. So, whatever you did, Paul, adds up to you, bud.
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Alright. Thank you.
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Hey. Hey, Paul. We pay you that's why we pay you the big bucks.
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Paul, can you boost Roger's volume a little bit? Because he seems like he's lower than everybody else.
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Yes. I can.
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Alright. Thank you.
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Alright. There we go.
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Okay. Is that better? Now, Bob, what were you saying, my friend?
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Well, I was just making the observation that, ironically, coincidentally, I was reading that article at the same time you guys are talking about Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, Social Security was international, internationally available. And I I just found that to be highly unusual that I was reading that point.
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You could put that in front of some patriots, and they'd still would deny that it that it's not the Nexus. I mean, that's how persuasive, and I know Brent went off on it yesterday too. And it's one of my pet peeves is all this stuff in the patriot movement. I'm not saying the people that came up with it originally had bad intentions. I I like to think most of them had good intentions. They just didn't have complete information. They see something. You know, it's like you get you're putting a puzzle together and you pick up a piece and you see a hole, you go, well, that looks like it fits there and you're by god, when you're gonna force it in there whether it fits or not. Right? Well, that's what's going on. There.
So, anyway, so who else has got something this morning? We're about halfway through the show. I don't even know if we'll Paul will play the little top of the hour, see you later, Chicago and whoever. No. No. Okay. So we don't even do that today. So we're it's just us girls. So, who else has got something to bring forward? Is it like this? But yeah. Yeah. And that's Sheldon had something. Right?
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No. It's
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Thomas. Oh, hey, Thomas. Okay. What you got, bud? Did anybody ever, bone up on the Buck Act? I what what's it Well, that's what we're covering at the first of the program. Julie was reading it reading about it. We had a short discussion. Okay. Well, shame on you. Now, Thomas, something else came up though that you ought to look at. Did you happen to see the third hour of Owen Shroyer on Thursday with Mike Adams? No. I I no. No. No. Well, if I you live down around Palm Beach, Boca Raton, don't you?
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Oh, yeah. I can open the shop anytime I want. Half an hour drive.
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Alright. Well, I would, if they let you in, I would go over and check out the third hour of Owen Stroyer on Thursday with Mike Adams about doctor Jane Ruby lives down by you and has her own garden, and she had a plastic covering over the tomato plants. And there's a bunch of dust and stuff on there, so she just sent it off to Mike Adams. And he goes over it with his 2,000 power microscope, and there's all kinds of really, really negative stuff in there. It picked up unbelievable amounts of lead, barium. He goes over the whole thing. If you live there, you you ought to go listen to that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Roger?
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Hold on, Julie. Go ahead. Very recently, just within within the last week or so, there's a thing that's going through the, motions in the Florida in our Florida government where they want to ban any form of spraying the chemtrails. Oh, right. And I don't know how far it's gone, but it's gone through a couple different hurdles and I think they may pass it And then we'll hopefully, get out of that. You know? We see them. We see them all the time. I see the tic tac toe.
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And, you know? Well, there's also not just chemtrails. There's some kind of fog that they can generate and put this stuff into. So I would especially you living down there right in the vicinity where this was happening. He shows well, he shows organic forms that they can't identify that are growing, and he's been incubating them in a, a space comparative to your lungs. Warm, moist, dark. And, and they're growing. Okay? And he shows them. He shows them on the, on the thing. So go back and listen to that. I encourage all of y'all to. It's pretty startling information. I'm sure we'll hear more on it, but that was a first impression, show, and he shows you live right at well, right there with his hundred thousand dollar microscope.
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Hey, Roger. I just posted the link starting at the third hour of Owen's show, in the pre conference call chat box. Uh-huh. Also on 2radioranch.patango.com.
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So it's there. Thank you, Mark. It really is I was
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Yeah. Go ahead, Mark. It was brought to my attention. We have a forum section at nationalstatus.com. You can go over there, and across the top, you'll see a link to forums. So there's different topics over there. And matter of fact, somebody had posted one about matriopathology or matriate. I'll say, I really should stop drinking. Spit that spit that out, Mark. A patriot mythology. Somebody wanted to know about some of the the patriot mythology, and I said, well, the number one is the gold French flag.
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There you go. And No. It's all cap letters. All cap letters. Don't I don't want straw man to have a cardiac arrest over there in the corner. Okay? So talk quiet.
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So anyway, yeah, if you if you wanna join the conversation, you know, after hours, after the show, that's a great place to to do that. And and, of course, right here on free conference call, almost around the clock, you got people, you know, talking about different topics. So Right. Almost.
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Larry, you wanna add something, and then I've got something I wanna ask Mark. So and Larry? I yield. I yield.
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Hey, Roger. Roger,
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you know how you're suggesting that we, we students, when we get, responses from federal and state officials that we should start including president Trump and Bondi in in as, you know, cc ing them in our notices?
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Well, I think that'd be a real good idea.
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Exactly. So the other day, some students were looking for those addresses and emails and fax numbers because I, was able to, you know, do some research and acquire all of that information. So I just sent Paul an email and, they they wanted it stuck in the chat. So Okay. Paul, we don't take that email and put it in the chat so everyone could have access to those to those, addresses, you know, they could use it for their notices.
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Yeah. And I think with this new bunch up there, although they're obviously snowed under, but it just couldn't hurt to put them on notice and see if you can get it in front of some clerk or secretary's nose and go, what is this? You know? Don't know. It's another wild shot in the dark. Who was that Sheldon or who was saying Roger there that wanted to start talking when Larry did?
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That was me, Thomas, again. Oh, Thomas. Okay. Yeah. No. I was just just I'm kinda shooting from the hip here, but I'm sure that's true. The the the stuff that falls down if you if you catch it. A guy up in Central Florida who owns a vitamin, business and has all of his own vitamins, done through jobbers, and he's very conscious about having his product tested all the time to make sure that they're consistent with what he does. He did the same thing. He put some, some dishes out, caught stuff up in Colt County, had them look at it. He said, no. All that stuff they say is in there is in there. It's in Ted Brower. He he owns Health Masters vitamins. But no. But here's the other thing. If that's actually true, that means that not only am I breathing the air down here, we have a huge Jewish population down here breathing that air. Marco Rubio lives thirty minutes from me. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and the Trumpsters, a thirty minute drive right up. We're all we're all breathing it. So I guess they're not discriminating as to who they're killing. They're killing everything.
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Well, that's why he said that's why he said that the Earth was being terraformed. K? So, we'll see. It was it was startling information. Who was the Hey Roger there?
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Alan from Indiana.
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Oh, hey, Alan. Had a special
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Mike Adams had a special. I think it was a yesterday or the day before for a minute on his website about the, investigating the the things that are in the rain from Florida. He also found heavy not heavy, but he found, the radiation molecules that are from an atomic bomb.
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I I don't know if it's strontium 90
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or strontium 90 or one thirty seven. I forget what it what it was, but he talked about it, yesterday or the day before yesterday. Okay. Well, he didn't mention that on it.
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Yeah. He didn't mention that. Yeah. Just a second. He didn't mention that on Owen, but he probably found it subsequently. But their hell there still may be, that kind of, isotope floating around from Chernobyl, for god's sakes. I've you know, theoretically. Oh. Yes, Julie.
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I think he means are you meaning c v m one thirty seven?
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Okay. Yes.
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Yeah. I mean, you can, I follow Doctor? Jane Ruby a lot. She has her own rumble show. It's just Doctor. Jane Ruby, all one word, no spaces. So she was talking about what you were talking about. Roger, with respect to all the, film that was on her greenhouses that she was sending off to Mike for testing. And, there's your favorite person, Todd Callender, and and the medical rebel, and Doctor. Lee Vliette.
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Right.
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They have their own websites for protocols, and the medical rebel, she was basically themedicalrebel.com, Doctor. Lee Merritt, she was basically saying everybody needs to be on chlorine dioxide and drinking a liter of that a day with respect to getting those metals out of your body because they're spraying them everywhere. I know they're not discriminating for against congress here because I think I counted 49 chemtrail planes yesterday when I was out and about, and that doesn't include the times that they were spraying when I wasn't looking up in the sky. So it's very bad. It's horrible.
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Yeah. I'm sure sorry you guys are having to go through that. I don't believe we're having that down here, but, jeez almighty. Just be careful. Any any of these tips, drinking a liter of of that water, or or whatever. Your health is super important. You can have all the rent. You can be free. You have it. You can be out of the country. You can be wealthy. You can be spiritually sound. And, boy, if you don't have your health, you don't have a whole lot.
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I think maybe we ought to shop all on your doorstep in, Ecuador.
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I welcome I welcome y'all to come anybody to come down here. It's a lovely spot. You know, this girl, one of the girls, those two, attractive girls, both of them, gals, that I sat next to last night. One of them, the one I was sitting right next to, the brunette, had been married to an American and lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Both of them spoke English. Pretty unusual down here to find that. Pretty good English. And, but she was saying she said, I hated it up there. People don't talk to each other. They're you know, it's just they're shut off. They're walking around with their cell phones and this, that, and the other, and I can relate to what she's talking about. You know? They've they've got you guys, like Pavlov's dog in that third stage.
You know? Catatonic state stuff with most people, not you here, but but but many of them. I mean, you tell Julie's not in a catatonic state. Okay? So so,
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anyway I think all of your citizens on here, we're all one big family. We're not none of us are in a catatonic state, Roger.
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No. It's because you're the truth seekers. You're the ones that seek the message out. I didn't go lasso you off the damn street and drag you in here. I mean, you're here because you had the motivation.
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So, and that's why I tell you that my life off that that's so it's off the street like a.
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That's right. A. Well, that's why I tell all of you that I love you so much. It's because I understand, that you're here by divine providence. Okay? Which you're just some whoever you are, wherever you are, you're some kind of unique personality or else you wouldn't be interested in this to the point where you'll spend your Saturday listening to a couple hours of people talking. Mark, I wanted to ask you. Do you know and I don't know then remember that we've discussed this before. Do you know my the guy that I really I met and really liked up there from your area, Charles Key? Is he still around? Do you know him? Yeah.
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I I've met him, but, just, you know, just
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a once, you know, once Impassions. Meet.
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Yeah. Listen. That the bomb up on city bombing, which the anniversary is today. Oh, that's right. Are they gonna have some sort of a get together up there? Oh, they always do. They always do. Yeah. We have an inclement weather today, so they're Oh, okay. Moving it inside. And they usually have a marathon race today, and it's become a very big thing. People all over the world have come to be in that race. Okay. Marathon. And, so, yeah. I remember when that happened. I lived out in West Oklahoma City, and I remember, I thought it was a sonic boom. My bedroom windows faced west away from the blast, and it rattled my windows. I woke up, and I thought, wow, that must have been a sonic boom because not too far from the airport, which is silly because commercial jets don't make sonic booms.
But, anyway, in my mind, it just was a lot like a sonic boom. And I went back to sleep. And about two hours later, I was working evening shift. About two hours later, I got up and turned on the news and was like, oh, my gosh, you know, unbelievable. My dad here's the scary part a couple of years before that, my dad and my mom had been down there signing up my dad for social security. And he was working his job, he had his own little business and it was a mobile servicing business, And he was about maybe three miles, four miles from downtown Oklahoma City and he happened to be standing outside and he says to this day he heard two booms.
It was a boom. Right. So I'm sure he did.
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They had to have the bomb is what caused that. You're sadly mistaken. Yo. You're you're please come back to reality. Well, there were other bombs, and they caught Strassmeier, of course, wire and plastic explosives there. Yes. And people identified him. So they had to to give the impression that the AMFO caused all the damage, so they almost had to have two explosions at the same time. For the audience, Charles Key, Indian, and I met him several times at these meetings we'd have, and they flew him down because of his high profile after the Oklahoma City bombings. He as a as a he was in the insurance business, probably still is. And, as that he got, wanted to run and got elected to the Oklahoma State legislature, and he was one of the ones who was really pushing the envelope on all these questions. By the way, who do you think the feds put over, OKC at that point? You know, Mark?
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Bush, I think. One of the Bushes. How about Merrick Garland?
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Oh, well,
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you know, the interesting thing too, Frank Keating happened to be the governor of Oklahoma during the time. Right. And he had formally been in the FBI.
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He was high level FBI. He was high high level FBI.
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Yep. And so they made everybody stand or the governor had everybody stand down and let the FBI come in. And so it was a very control and controlled investigation. Yeah. And in two weeks, less than two weeks, they had that whole place cleared out and buried.
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Yep. Just like after nine eleven, they had the steal from nine eleven on ships to China within weeks. It was all gone. Wow. Wow. Okay. So, but Charles Key, if any of y'all ever get a chance to meet him, he is one of the nicest, cordial, polite, genuine people you'll ever meet in your life. Yeah. He just I I didn't wasn't around him long, but he and I just really connected. And he he his comment about me was I love to hear you talk. And,
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Charles just a really good guy. So, anyway, he That kinda goes both ways because Charles Well a really good speaker as well. You know? He was Yes. He is. What? State senator? Yeah. He really tried to spearhead an investigation into the Plum City bombing.
[01:11:03] Unknown:
Yeah. And, also, just as I think about it, because I thought about it last night, didn't think about it yesterday, was the sixty first commemoration of the it probably wasn't the same date, but the Good Friday Alaskan earthquake that I was in, which was the second or third biggest earthquake ever recorded, and since they got the scale, and all of the, listen. I can I can recall scenes from that moment like it was yesterday? K? Yeah. It made a indelible effect on me at a at a young impressionable age. Quite an event. So, anyway, hope that one I would not like to repeat necessarily.
So, anyway, I just been wanting to ask you about Charlie because he says I haven't heard his name in years, but the impression he left on me was such that I'd bring his name up all these years later and ask you if you had any communication or knowledge with each other. No. If you do run across him, please. Well, please give him my regards if you cross paths with him over there, Mark. Will do. You heck of a nice guy. Where else, can we go here morning, kids? We got about fifty minutes left. Well, there's Julie. Hey, Jules. Yeah. What we got?
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Yeah. I wanted to, comment again on Merrick Garland and the, the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995? Yes, ma'am. She he's, Merrick Garland we know is the state, but, what people don't maybe might not remember is there's a lady by the name of Gorlick, g o r e l I c k. She was the mastermind, but behind the policy where they enacted and created a wall between the FBI and all the other intelligence agencies when it came to terrorist threats. So that's why no one connected the dots when they when they led up to the catastrophe of nine eleven. And to make sure that she never got the blame, she got appointed to to coauthor of the report of the nine eleven commission.
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Uh-huh. Agorilek. Nice Jewish name.
[01:13:15] Unknown:
Yeah. She was actually though, she was actually Merrick Garland's college buddy
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or he. Sorry. Big surprise. You know what his real name is, don't you?
[01:13:26] Unknown:
No. I don't. What is it?
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Moshi Garfunkel.
[01:13:31] Unknown:
Oh my god. Oivet.
[01:13:33] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. Oivet. They're they're getting exposed, folks, big time. They're desperate. And they you can see by their moves, that they're really, really concerned with all the exposure they're getting from Netanyahu and the, and the Gaza incident on on top of everything else. So something's coming to a head. I don't know how long it'll take to get there. Maybe we can help accelerate it a little bit. But, but the it's coming. It's pretty soon, it's gonna be gelding time at the Okay Corral. Okay?
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Gelding. Roger?
[01:14:14] Unknown:
Yes, sir. How well, look at there, Samuel. Hey, man.
[01:14:18] Unknown:
Hey. Yeah. I was wondering, didn't didn't general Parton also comment on Oklahoma City?
[01:14:25] Unknown:
Oh, that was where he came to fame. Yes. You know, he came in the very first day of that. People like Bill Cooper was one of the first ones to talk about it that I heard on that night. And he go, we got the expert's expert in The US on on, munitions. Well, that's been pardoned. He wrote that report. He went in and wrote a report that, mathematically, the AMFO in the car would that far away from the building. It it can do damage, but it loses its power real quickly, AMFO. And so he calculated mathematically that it didn't have the power to bring the front of that Murrah Building down. And he wrote a very detailed scholarly report on it. And at that point, he lived you know where Kings Cove is over there? I'm sure you do, Julie. Right? Kings Cove in Virginia? It's Yeah. I think it's a pretty probably pretty risky subdivision. Right? Well, he lived in Kings Cove. General Parton did. And he drove, over there to Washington and hand delivered that report to every house member and senator in the congress, personally, to their office, general Parton.
So anyway, yes, Samuel. That's right.
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Have have you ever seen him, there's a video of him, explaining and demonstrating out in the desert the continuous filament of rocket or round?
[01:15:58] Unknown:
I've never seen that. No.
[01:16:01] Unknown:
You know, on what laser bomb He went out in the desert, and he dug out Right. He dug out Right. A hole, I bet you, maybe a hundred feet in diameter. Yeah. And then he lined it with aluminum sheet metal as if it was the skin of an airplane because he was saying this is how that flight over Manhattan was taken down by this weapon. And then, he, he ignited this weapon. And what it does is it puts out this this long ribbon of magnesium, and it just sliced all that sheet metal immediately. And he said that that was a weapon we we built to be able to take down bombers because rockets and stuff like that might punch holes in them not but not put them down, but this was built to cut the holes in half.
[01:16:53] Unknown:
Wow. Well, you know, the laser guided munitions we've got, all that is directly responsible to General Patton.
[01:17:04] Unknown:
The reason why is is when when you have a blast, every foot the pounds per square inch of the air pressure drops in half correct so when you get very far out you just don't have the Damaging forces as you have right, you know, on top of the bomb. So the ANFO that Roger is referring to is ammonium nitrate. It's a fertilizer bomb that they created and it was really a diversion. And if you watch I can't think of the name of the video. I believe the gentleman who produced it was Chris Emery about the Oklahoma City bombing. He they talked about how the the the guys that come in and rig the the place charges around these huge steel reinforced concrete pillars.
Right. Well, let me back and say this. That the same evening of the bombing or it might have been the second evening, they had one of the engineers who designed the Murrah bombing or the Murrah Building. And it was it was right in, I think, the middle of the Vietnam War. And they designed that building to take a blast. Wow. They designed that building to take a blast. The engineers specifically said that. And so that truck bomb did not do that. And then, of course, in the in the actual video, I think you still find it on info wars, for sale.
But they said that they had a group in I think from Germany who were placing, charges on, you know, in the column so they shear them off. And they the people in the building that happened to stumble across it when it's going down, they were told that they were running new telephone wires. Yep. There was some he was doing it in the parking lot. You you remember the guy's name? Andre Strassmeier?
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Yes. Yes. And he's the son of a German diplomat or politician?
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Mhmm.
[01:19:12] Unknown:
And he's working for the Southern Poverty Law Center. They controlled all that. I'm I'm gonna tell you, you know, all this Ray Up stuff about December 6? I'm a if if that information comes out, I will bet anybody here a dollar to a donut that Ray Epps was hired for the Southern Poverty Law Center. Oh, wow. Could be. I'll bet you his what your highest last name? Strassmeier. I I don't know I don't know how to spell that to say it. Parton. How do you spell it? P a r t o p a r t o n, Benton. He was an air force lieutenant general, retired, Benton, b e n t o n, Parton, p a r t o n. What a great American that guy was. I'm I'm pretty sure his commentary was that that truck bomb would have probably taken out the planters in the front of the building, and that's about it. Something like that. Yeah. But not knock the front of it off. So just obviously, it's another false flag. They're talking about I'll get you a second. They're also talking about having a commission on 09:11.
That's come up here as of late with some people behind it. Now, who who who was wanting to say something right? Sheldon's been trying to get in here for quite a while. Well, you gotta search yourself on a day like today. Yeah. Who was that?
[01:20:30] Unknown:
It's Brent. K. Brent. Yeah. You were, you said he's lieutenant general. He was too efficient. He was only a brigadier general. Okay. I'm sorry. Alright. I stand I stand corrected.
[01:20:46] Unknown:
Okay. I stand corrected. He's probably smarter and better American than he does other ones with all kinds of stars. Yes, sir. Comment.
[01:20:58] Unknown:
Hey there.
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Hello? Yes?
[01:21:03] Unknown:
Who are you? It's, Tom d. Tom d. Oh, hey, Tom. Sorry. I'm being recognized. I'm mobile mobile at the moment. Yeah. I I sent you a, I sent you a little, Skype message with, Oklahoma stuff on it, you know, from the web I found. I thought you'd be interested in it, but it's got Strassmeier and everything in it. But you know what? Whatever happened to the reporter from the local, TV station there, Jana Davis, she was all over that thing, and then she got shut down. Well, she was she was on top of it.
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There was also another, I believe it was a black policeman that they found out in a field that they ruled suicide when they even had the crap beaten out of him and he stabbed red bull holes in him or something. I don't remember his name. I just remember the incident. Terrace Yakee. Yep. That was Duluth. Thank you. Yes. Yankee. That's Yakee, I think, is the way you pronounce it. Yankee. It's like, well Yankee. Yeah. Yeah. Y E K E E is almost how you'd think it would be spelled. Well, the good news is that, some of the the cans on these things may be opened up as we go forward. Poor old Pam Bondi. Blondi.
She's under a lot of pressure right now, that girl. Blondi. Blondi. That's good. And have you Mark, have you heard about Leticia James? Have you heard all that? Yes.
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Yes. Oh, is that sweet? Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey
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They could grab and do that too, I'm sure. But, anyway, y'all is karma, bitch. Okay? And so there's that's gonna be very interesting to see her get drugged over the coals. And, just all kinds of things happening, and it seems like Trump's taken a little bit. I was very pleased, very, very pleased to hear the inside story on the Iran situation. And Netanyahu was over there last week. Netanyahu was over there last week to try and coerce Trump into him and his allies there in Trump's cabinet into bombing Iran. And, the who's the gal that's his clerk, chief one, and Tulsi Gabbard, and Vance, and one or two others voted against it.
P and that's why we're gonna have a another, talk in Rome. So they overrode Netanyahu and the rabid mad dog Zionist internally. That folks, thank you. You're right. Maybe there's hope. Yes.
[01:24:06] Unknown:
I wanna get Sheldon in here because he's at the top Sheldon, come on. With crappy cell service, and he drops out frequently. Well So Sheldon Okay. Front and center. Sheldon, well, I'm sorry. These are how we get rolling here. And if anyway, what do you got for us, Sheldon?
[01:24:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, nothing much of consequence compared to the conversation of late, but you and I had this thing about what what it means to cut a rug last week. And I dove into that, and it hearkens back to the roaring twenties. But you gotta forget I just said that. This isn't about people who had that much financial wherewithal. They would have house parties. Now maybe that's where that started, but they never used to call them that. They would have house parties, and they would dance, and they always happened they they always went to the biggest room because of the most people. Sure. And what you would do back then if you were a good dancer, one of the adjectives would be cut or slice.
And that's how where it came from. It was for the youth. It's youth slang is what it is. And it takes place in Middle America, the less fortunate who can't go out with the flappers and the roaring twenties and have the bathtub den and stuff. That's where it came from.
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It it remind about that same era. Remember the movie, the man who loved cat dancing, which was about that you do who who could dance the longest and wanna be sleeping on the other one trying to stay in the comp competition and stuff. Pretty interesting. Well, thank you, Sheldon. Thanks for looking back into that.
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Okay. Well, sorry to be so elusive.
[01:25:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That gal I was sitting next to last night, she's a big dancer too. She's danced tango and all kinds of stuff. So, pretty interesting. So who else has got something this morning? Yes. There's somebody. Who's that? I know the voice. I can't call her. Yeah. Hi, Raj.
[01:26:06] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Ezana. I Ezana, I spoke with you from the Austin area. I spoke to you a couple of times a while back ago.
[01:26:13] Unknown:
Okay. Now talk right into the mic. Give me the name again. Ezana?
[01:26:18] Unknown:
Ezana. Yeah. Ezana.
[01:26:21] Unknown:
Boy, I don't remember calling that name, Ezana. Anyway, nice to meet you. Go ahead. I'll quit interrupting you.
[01:26:29] Unknown:
Yes. And that's okay. I I I I'm the one that mentioned you to Barnes and Barnes Show.
[01:26:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Some few months ago. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. Yeah. You put a little message in there. Yeah. Cool. Somebody told me they read it. Thank you. Well, nice to hear from you again.
[01:26:46] Unknown:
Alright. Good to hear from you. I just found something that I'd like to share, just I thought I'd share. So, US code, US code, title eight, chapter 12, sub chapter three, part two, fourteen fifty two says a certificate of citizenship or US non citizen national status procedure. It's got two parts. A, a, part a has application to attorney general or certificate of citizenship or proof of oath, proof sorry. My my eyes are failing me, and I'm looking at it in my phone, zooming in zooming in. No problem. I can understand that. Of yeah. Oath of allegiance. So Yeah.
Application so this would be application to attorney general for certificate of citizenship. I am naturalized citizen, so I went through this procedure. And I remember giving the allegiance as well, me along with 500 other people. Uh-huh. So the judge to the federal judge stood up and says all the things that you all have done to get to this point, it's irrelevant, like passing the test and going through all the procedure and the application. I was eligible to apply for citizenship for five years, before I decided to become a citizen. So all it you go through the process to become a citizen. So I took my time, and it was funny. That kinda sunk with me, you know, when the guy said, all of it is irrelevant up until they say the allegiance.
We all had to stand up, put our hands on our chest, and then the the federal judge administrated, the the, the procedure oath. And it was it just for some reason, I was thinking, what if I lied? What if I didn't mean to? How would that change things? And it's going through your, your learn finding you know, learning about this, feudalism system. I guess it wouldn't matter whether I'm telling the truth or not. I just learned that now. But, it was kind of a a surreal moment when he was saying that I had my three kids with me. My wife also is being naturalized. So it was kind of a very interesting, experience.
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He said everything this paragraph everything everything you've done up to that time was irrelevant until you took the oath. Is that I gather that I'm trying to correct. Oath. Yes. There you go. Well, there's the allegiance. The email. When you did that Yeah. What did you get? What did you get? He didn't say it. It just happened automatically. You automatically got the protection of the federal government. Boom. Protection. Yeah.
[01:29:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Boom. I and so, you know, it's that that experience to me was incredibly surreal. And but the the fact that the judge jokingly put he was pretty stern and serious. You all have to stand up. You all have to be present here. We don't really care whether you have all your paper on file or not. At this moment, you're here, and your allegiance, if you don't say your allegiance,
[01:30:12] Unknown:
it doesn't matter what you've done to this point. Well, that's how important. Clear. For everybody in the audience, that's how important this concept is to really grasp. K? Because it's the basis of everything, and he's proven it to you in a naturalization service. Go ahead.
[01:30:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. So that's that. And then it goes to how a person receives a certificate. And I got my certificate of citizenship. It's it's a very pretty, paper. It's got all these stamps and beautifully stamped, an art of work you know, work of art, I mean. And, so it's a person who claims to have a a derived US citizenship through the naturalization of a of a parent or through the naturalization or citizenship of a a husband, and it goes on and on and on and on. It talks about all the details on how one becomes a citizen. Uh-huh. Let's go to part b.
Okay? Part b, one is US citizenship. That's how you get a certificate. B is an application to the secretary of state for certificate of non citizen national status.
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Woah. Yep.
[01:31:25] Unknown:
Proof of, it says proof oath of allegiance. Both require oath of oath of allegiance. Okay? Now this one is kind of specific, so I'm gonna read this one out loud. The person who claims to be a national but not a US citizen
[01:31:43] Unknown:
Okay. That's American Samoan. That's American Samoan. Just to put everybody straight. A national but not a citizen. See, we're both. That's the difference. Go ahead.
[01:31:55] Unknown:
Okay. So a person who claims to be a national but not a citizen of The United States may apply to the Secretary of State of a certificate of noncitizen national status upon
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Mhmm.
[01:32:12] Unknown:
In nationals yeah. Upon, one, proof to the secretary of proof to the satisfaction of the secretary of state that the applicant is a national, but not a citizen of The United States.
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Correct. Now And two Alright.
[01:32:36] Unknown:
Uh-huh. And then it goes through the else. Twos. You have to do the all space. I'm not gonna read the whole thing. Okay. Now number one is you have to prove to the satisfaction of secretary of state.
[01:32:46] Unknown:
Correct. Now what their that relates to what you're reading us relates to that certificate of noncitizen nationality that we refer back to so often around here. And it basically bookends with what you're talking about. And, it it it says we we used to put out these certificates of noncitizen nationality, but, you know, the cost of the paper and the cost of the ink have gotten so absorbent that they don't send them out anymore and that they, suggest that people that are wanting something of that caliber to apply for a passport. Now if the American Samoan, that we're talking about here applies for a passport, it looks just like ours, no difference, up to the first visa page.
And on the first visa page, there's a big stamp that says this person is not a citizen of The United States. So now that policy statement that's got so many other rich nuggets in it refers to just going and having these people get a passport. So that that's what I would add. Do you have any more from that? Now you we've it's come up around here. I don't. Okay. Well, let me then let me continue because I'm on a bit of a roll. Just a second. It has come up Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Here that we yeah. You can suggest a one of those.
If you're in some sort of a court case or some sort of an administrative dispute where there might be a question of your status that you are able to request, at least request, that document from the secretary of state, but him sending it is optional, evidently.
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So we wonder Yeah.
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It that that the whole thing, of course, revolves around American Samoans, but we've gotta be in there, okay, for them to make it legitimate. So we should be able to take advantage of some of these. And, you know, I think it's come up with whoever's having some kind of court problem that they go ahead and request that right now, because we got Trump officials in and not Biden officials. If it's optional and you were doing it during the Biden administration, you're wasting money even sending a request, k, unless you want just want it in the file. But, regardless, that's what I'd add about what you're saying here.
[01:35:31] Unknown:
Yeah. So what I was gonna say, I had that actually queued up to read as well what you just said, but I don't wanna take everyone's time. But I'll say it's title eight chapter 12, sub chapter three. Part four fifteen o two says exactly what you just said. If there's a request, the secretary of state could provide a certificate through the court. Yes. In the back end, basically, they they'll handle that.
[01:35:58] Unknown:
Well and, you know, I didn't know about that until relatively recently, and it's gonna be incorporated with the process that we talk to people about if anybody should get in these problems. Mark, have you ever done that with anybody, any of your cases or anything? Did you know about this?
[01:36:16] Unknown:
Well, I I've known about it, you know, recently, but nobody's really in a position to ask for that, I don't think.
[01:36:25] Unknown:
Well yes.
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We'll be pulling it out of the just to finish.
[01:36:31] Unknown:
Something will come up. Sorry. Just And we'll be pulling that's okay. Well, something will come up as we go forward, and we'll be pulling that one out of the quiver. Go ahead, please.
[01:36:41] Unknown:
Yeah. What I was gonna say was that the way I read this, and I was thinking about this for the last, few days. The way I read this is, obviously, this all of this in code writing and all of that is not done for the benefit of, American Samoa, which make up, but, what, 56, 60 thousand people.
[01:37:06] Unknown:
And and as a fact, 360,000,000
[01:37:09] Unknown:
people. Right? Yeah. So they didn't do it for American Samoa. Obviously, American Samuans are a cover. Right? And, it's, and so so really, this the way I read it is that if if if we read this as if to mean that it was meant to be for American Samoans, then we're screwed. Right? If we read this to mean that if as a as nationals that we need some sort of evidence to demonstrate that we are nationals
[01:37:53] Unknown:
Right. Your evidence is your app evidence is available. Well, the the evidence is used That's how I read it. Telling them in some sort of a piece of paper. That's all that has to happen. It doesn't have to be an affidavit. It can be just a declaration. But that's the evidence of your that's why they call that internally when they're processing a passport. And you can go online and see where the process is as it goes along, and they call your affidavit citizenship evidence. Hey, Rogers. William. That's the proof. Yeah. Yes. Yes, William. Just something to add real quick that 15 o two section says the secretary of state is authorized to issue in his discretion and and in accordance with the rules and regulations prescribed by him, a certificate of nationality for any person not a naturalized citizen.
Oh. What do you mean? So you oh, not? I well, there you go. I would think even okay. Well, that's cool. Thank you, William. We'll at some point, now that we know this, we'll we'll direct an arrow up there with somebody's situation and see how they respond. I wanna add that. I I Oh, alright. Hold on. I wanna add Mark. I think that's Mark. Right?
[01:39:16] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Well, keep in mind Mark. Go ahead.
[01:39:20] Unknown:
Keep in mind now, we're talking about using the passport now and what we just read about the certificate of non citizenship status, that they talk about it's at the discretion of the Secretary of State, right? Well, keep in mind and we talk about the passport now, they don't want to print up a bunch of these certificates, they just include it as part of your identification through your passport book, which means somebody has to electronically look it up. But in Orta Tiki versus DRC, and we've talked about this before, your passport is not absolute evidence of your citizenship status.
Nope. And keep that in mind. It's really what you say you are. Nobody has authority to say anything differently. If you say you took an allegiance to a small s state, then you're a national.
[01:40:18] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:40:19] Unknown:
And so it's really up to up to your say so, not anybody else. That's what we maintain. Or
[01:40:27] Unknown:
go ahead, man. I'm sorry. No. I was just gonna say we've maintained for a long time, and I think it was Daniel Fish that first came up and got me thinking about this, Paul. And and he said, look. Well, I was a national when I decided in my mind I was. And then when I filed the paper, that's just representing the decision that I'd come to in my mind already, and that makes it official.
[01:40:49] Unknown:
I agree. Yeah. Now let me read off a couple of the citations from Orta Tiki versus DRC. I posted this over in the FCC chat, the pre conference call chat, with the link to Google Scholar if you want to read some of the case citations. But here's two that were really big. Now this and I want I want to also clarify this. I believe it was Jerry in New York who talked to the passport office. Yes. And they were kinda arguing about his status, whether he was US citizen or not. And Jerry just said, do you have my affidavit? Oh, yeah. It's right here. He goes, then I don't care what you put on my passport.
Yeah. That was Bob. And how That was Bob. Was a Bob? Okay. So how could Bob make that statement? Because it's your freedom of choice. They can't lock you in to a certain citizenship status or it's a violation of the thirteenth amendment against what? Involuntary servitude.
[01:41:52] Unknown:
It has to be voluntary. As we go over that, and I know this is all old news to you, but just look at the trouble, the patience, the twisting of law they've had to get this thing to where they could turn it around a 80 degrees where they can ask you those two questions and get you to to agree with them. Just look at that and think about it. It's incredible what they went through for 80 hell, almost a hundred years to get everything set up where they could do that.
[01:42:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Let me read your citations from this real quick. Okay. Yeah. Let's see. Let's get Mark here real quick. Or Tatiqi versus DRC thirty four US Supreme Court six nine two eighteen thirty five. And in their decision, they held specifically upon the general and abstract question whether the passport per se was legal and competent evidence of the fact of citizenship, we are not I'm sorry. We are of opinion that it was not. And the second quote, similar, in general, a passport granted by the secretary of state is not evidence in a court of justice that the person to whom it was given was a citizen of The United States.
[01:43:14] Unknown:
It is merely an ex parte document Yeah. Issued under the law of nations. If in a court of law, what paperwork is in possession of the secretary should be presented as the higher and better evidence.
[01:43:35] Unknown:
Mark?
[01:43:36] Unknown:
Samuel.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
Hi. Have have you ever looked up section three zero two of public law 94 dash two forty one?
[01:43:47] Unknown:
No. I have not. Repeat that thing. He looks at it every days. I bet you look at that every day, don't you, Mark? It's there
[01:43:56] Unknown:
section section three zero two, public law 94 dash two forty one.
[01:44:04] Unknown:
Dash two forty one. Got it. No. I I can't say that I've ever looked that up.
[01:44:09] Unknown:
It says here, if a person believes they are eligible eligible under the law as a noncitizen national to The United States and complies with the provisions of section three forty one b of the immigration and nationality act, the INA, they may apply for a passport that would be, delineated and and and certify their status as a national but not a citizen of The United States.
[01:44:40] Unknown:
Oh, nice. Yep. Nice. Okay. By the way, I'd like to commend Samuel yesterday for, I think, was a very interesting insight on looking at, Plessy versus Ferguson and the swift person versus Tyson cases from the from the viewpoint of the fourteenth amendment citizen. I think that was very interesting.
[01:45:07] Unknown:
Now I I was thinking it and you'll bring it It was. It it was. And, you know, Brent brings some facts on that case. Well, hell, I didn't know any of that stuff before he said it the first time. But remember, at that point, that was, like, 1938. Right? So he they did not have their game completed yet. They had not overcome Plessy. And so he he he that differential was still there, and they had not overcome it to the point where he could be just one delineated status. So Right. I figure that into your thinking too as you go over it, Samuel.
[01:45:48] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. And and it's Yes. Yeah. In my opinion, this is where Brent has a little bit of a blind spot into,
[01:45:55] Unknown:
you know, thinking that when you're born Brent has some blind spot. Mark, you should have been around here years ago when when Chris and and Daryl and those guys were around, and we would literally gang up on him every week. He would refuse to believe that he that this thing is the way we've got it structured. And I think what it is is it's just inbred in him that he cannot admit that he was tricked by old scratch.
[01:46:28] Unknown:
No. That's possible. I was under the I mean, I've learned a lot from Brent Winters. Don't get
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Oh, absolutely. Me too.
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His his knowledge of, quote, common law, I really would would just tell everybody, go back and listen to a rogers show yesterday especially the second hour and he gets into the common law because I was of the opinion for the longest time now mind you I've I've been through you know professional training as a paralegal. I've had intro to law, legal research and writing, civil procedures, a bunch of other classes. That have to do with being a paralegal. But and then getting involved in the quote patriot community and hearing that I always thought that a court, I'm talking about in The United States or in your state, either one, was it could only be one jurisdiction at a time.
Ah, okay. And our our dear friend Charlie who, is in Colorado, she used to be on our show quite a bit.
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Where has she been lately, by the way? Pardon me? I wonder where she's been lately. She was a regular
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her own battles.
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So Okay. Yeah.
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Anyway, Charlie said that she had a law professor said that the jurisdiction of these courts is like a big blender. You just throw them all in there and you kind of get what you get depending upon the facts of your case, you know what I'm like? Correct. That didn't quite make sense to me. But then Brent brought it out one day because I think I may have asked him. And he said, oh, no. The the the courts, it depends on the facts of the case. At any moment, your the facts could support common law or they could support, you know, equity. Now that's Correct. That's the two jurisdictions that you're gonna primarily face in court.
And he even talked about it yesterday about courts of equity. And and I've read cases where it just it's automatically presumed when you walk into a court that it's a court of equity as opposed to common law. But I would really encourage everybody to go back and listen to Brent's explanation of common law yesterday because it was brilliant. And I love what he said when people say common law, and he asked them, well, what is the common law? And they have no great response to that. You know? So you can tell Brent's done a lot of studying on what common law is.
And I would be You guys just encourage you to go back and listen to that second hour from yesterday.
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Lucky to have it. We are so lucky to have that relationship with him, this long running relationship, and it was on it's a big family, and it's just really one we're very fortunate. Yeah, Bob. Roger. Okay. Just a second. Go ahead, Marcus. Okay. Merc?
[01:49:27] Unknown:
Hey, Bob. I'm just wanting to remind people that they need to have, take time and individually take time to learn the information because having command of the information
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is what helps you in the private. That's your that's your Freeman. That in essence, that's the freedom, isn't it? Having command of the information and being able to no. No. I'm not that. That'd be a belligerent claimant. And to get to see eventually, that's what goes over and changes your all that stuff that's keeping your subconscious and conscious mind from working in tandem. And as we do that and learn this, this is the empowerment of getting the powers that God meant us to have at birth that Esau and Edom stole from us. It's a it's a critical element.
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Yeah. At the same time, it keeps us out of court. It keeps us, you know, from using all the other resources that we have to use or even get The US system involved. We knowing the information, learning the information, having command of it, you know, everybody at their own individual level, it's important for us to live that way. We have to have command.
[01:50:39] Unknown:
Well, you gotta live what you are or else you're a hypocrite. That's the dilemma that these people that pay someone to do this for them, that's a dilemma they get in. They don't know what did. They paid somebody to do it. They're not gonna study this. They can't explain it. They can't defend their position, and they certainly can't help after this thing crashes whenever that may be to add these pieces of the puzzle. So, hopefully, the wider spread we get this, the better chance we have of getting this information into a rebuilding process. And and close the holes in these pieces of garbage can never do this again.
Thank you, Bob. Roger. Comment. Well, you know, Bob was after Merca. Hold on. He was courteous enough to give Merca the way. Bob
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Well, this exemplifies what I was putting forward to this gal at the state department eight years ago when she says, you know, we don't we don't we don't we we're not gonna allow that. We're not gonna recognize it. I mean, I already understood, and I'm not gonna be able to advise. That's not the point.
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Ma'am, are you giving me I had internalized
[01:52:01] Unknown:
the fact that it's my choice. So I simply said, as Mark already mentioned, you know, what's in my do you have it in my file? Is it recorded? She said, yes. I said, I don't care what you call me. Send me the documents. You know, this whole day, so to speak, this whole program's kinda been a trip down memory lane because I had an uncle who was John Bircher. Honestly, don't know if he was a member or not, but he got the publication, the new American. And as a youngster, I saw it laying around the his house, their house, and I probably spirited one away one evening or something, you know, and was reading it.
At any rate, I had written off and gotten a subscription to the New American. Never joined. Just got the publication. Had a lot of incredibly good information in it. They they do. Didn't necessarily agree with a lot of things they were putting forward, but a lot of it, I did. And '92, we had Ruby Ridge in August, which then rewarded Ron Huayuchi for being an assassin.
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Yep.
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You can do your own research on that. Yep. Not quite a year later in April, something about April 19. I'm not quite sure. Waco conflagration in ninety three burned the Davidians to the ground. And then in my own personal life, my mother died. I honestly can't recall. I think it's the day after. I think it's tomorrow. I'll have to get with my siblings and research and remember, but, you know, it's been long enough ago. But it was then one year, she died of a a stroke
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very,
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very sudden. And so that kinda piles right in there on that date. And a year later, I'm traveling down I 70, and I'm listening to the radio. I'm reflecting on the fact that mom died a year ago, and the news comes on that the Murrow Building has been bombed. And I gotta tell you, the first thing I thought of was is this this is a setup. It just I I'm just innately suspicious of anything like that.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Yep. And,
[01:54:33] Unknown:
my goodness. The, whole the whole, well, Benton, Parton and all, that was all brought forward through the New American. They talked to him. They interviewed him. They had I wish I knew where those magazines were. It was a wealth of information. Terrence Yakey delved into that whole thing extensively. Elohim City, the informants, Hal, Strassmeier, though though it it was just it stank so bad. I could smell it in Kansas. Sure. It was just terrible. And, yeah, when you you know, it is thirty years on, thirty four, whatever it is now, it's still, there's you know, as far as Brent Brent having a blind spot, we all have blind spots.
True. We all have blind spots. We all have deficiencies, and grace is such a great thing. We need to have it with each other. We need to have it to some degree with our enemies because I'm a firm believer that it will the accounts will be settled in due time.
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Oh, they got theirs coming.
[01:55:50] Unknown:
And, you know, I've there's so many things that I coulda, woulda, shoulda done looking back in hindsight, things I already understood that I didn't act on because it was just inconvenient. Family, business, friends, you know, everybody. No. Well, no. Sorry. Nobody lives in a vacuum. I mean, all my personal wants and desires kinda get, weighed against family, business, friends Yeah. You know Yeah. Etcetera. And it's you you you feel like you're compromising every day and knowing what to do or what you should do, what you can't do, what you won't aren't willing to do, and you regret, but yet you've got your reasons.
And, yeah, you know, I I have plenty of differences with Brent. I have a great amount of respect for his study and his teaching. I do disagree with him vigorously on several things, but I don't see it as something that I need to end my my listenership or anything over because the fact is I agree, and I can relate so much with his upbringing because I had a very similar upbringing on a farm and, you know, can really relate to the agricultural nature of a lot of his reflections. So it's yeah. Anyway, just I Know the information.
I look at permission. Right.
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I look at Brent's body of work and continuing work, and I'm just astounded. I feel lazy as a
[01:57:28] Unknown:
I don't know how he's got time. With kids and family and everything. Like nine children of their own and all those grandchildren already? Yeah. Yeah. Yikes.
[01:57:39] Unknown:
Makes me feel like I've squandered a lot of time somewhere, and I haven't figured out where. You know, with a minute the first time Brent and I ever did a show, there was just instant chemistry there, and it's been there ever since.
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And I was pretty much there for all of that.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
I remember. Yeah. Where are you back? Remember that. That was that was micro effect days.
[01:58:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The old old fella up in Idaho. I can't remember his name, but the guy that ran it. Yeah.
[01:58:08] Unknown:
I'm trying to forget his name intentionally. What follow are you gonna say?
[01:58:13] Unknown:
Well, that's why you have a bunch of kids. Bastard. That's why you have a bunch of kids is to share the workload in your later years. And I I did I did wanna say something, and I wanna get it in before the end of the show. With respect to what Mirca said about learning the information, we have been conditioned to if we don't feel right, trust the white coat. If the car doesn't run right, trust the mechanic. If the septic backs up, trust the guy with the backhoe. But this is one thing. We need to be our own experts at and defending your freedom.
No one else is gonna do it for you. There is no professional that you can call in and go back to the couch and watch finish watching the game. There is no shortcut.
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Learn it. And see this. Believe it. That's what makes John to make us a living bonded network of brotherhood, a family, whatever you wanna call it, was, John's statement. The only way I can protect my liberty is to help Bob and Paul and Julie and all you protect yours. And that's the purpose of this program.
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Speaking of John
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people, getting folks up to speed, answering questions, and starting to form that network. Yes. Okay. Quick, Paul.
[01:59:38] Unknown:
Speaking of John, Larry nagged me and reminded me and nudged me to dig out the taxes voluntary interview that John and Glenn did with, with those two Canadians. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna describe them any more than that. It's a it's a YouTube. It's on it's over on YouTube somewhere. No. It's not. It's been scrubbed from everywhere that you could possibly scrub it from. However Good. Yes. Somebody found it. No. I found it. I found it, way back in my history. I've had it since 2022. So I uploaded it to PodHome. There is a transcript. There is a description.
It is a very recent episode.
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Okay.
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That interview is up there.
[02:00:29] Unknown:
Okay. Good. We'll thank both of you for that. And that's worth nagging him about, Larry. Yes, Samuel?
[02:00:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I just wanted to be clear about that, thing that I I pointed out to Mark there, that public law. You know, again, in the first paragraph of that, they simply talk about the national and, versus the citizen of The United States. But you get down further. Now they're talking about the noncitizen national. So, you know, they just can't leave anything alone.
[02:01:04] Unknown:
Yeah. There's a They're There's a link in there, Samuel, that explains that it's about The US National. The the The non citizen national. Yeah. At some moment. This whole thing is designed so slippery.
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It's it's amazing that God led us to the answer. Thank you. See you on Monday.
[02:01:23] Unknown:
Thank you, Marco.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I wanna thank all of you. Just, such a special people. You're welcome, Julie. And, you know, with the show, it's interesting because over time, people drift in and they hang around for a while, and then they go off somewhere. You don't hear from them again for or or maybe ever. So it's this constant new change of people here, and it's, pretty fantastic, actually. And I love all of you. So,
[02:01:55] Unknown:
thank you. Thank you, Roger.
[02:01:58] Unknown:
You're like my children. I mean, really?
[02:02:04] Unknown:
Well, thank you, Roger.
[02:02:05] Unknown:
Wow.
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So my uncle. Anyway,
[02:02:10] Unknown:
you do what? Was that Mark? You're like my uncle, uncle Roger. There you go. Uncle Tia. Tia. Tia Rojario. Okay. Well, you guys go have a nice Easter weekend. Hope you got family to spend that with. And, it's funny. That whole show yesterday with Brent, we never even mentioned Good Friday. I look back on it. Wow. You know? So, anyway, pay attention to the significance, and, I'll see you on Monday. And I hope everything's just real crackerjack with you over Roger. Weekend. Yes. Larry.
[02:02:51] Unknown:
This is Larry. I love you, Roger. You're the highlight of my FedEx day every day.
[02:02:56] Unknown:
Thank you, man. Yeah. Well, your questions are the highlight of many programs.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
K?
[02:03:01] Unknown:
So, thank you too. And, see, will will you get bonded together on this level? And I don't even ever need any of you hardly. It's really special. K? Mhmm. It's really special. So, y'all have a great weekend. I'll see you Monday.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. Hey, Raj. The the episode yesterday, including after show was three hours and fifteen minutes long or something like that. I mean, Brent was around for some time for quite a while Yes. He was. Even after you left. You might wanna grab the third hour of that maybe and just give it a listen if you've got time this afternoon. Thank you. I might. It's a
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well, what a what a guy Brandon is. I I I I don't think I've ever met anybody like him before hardly.
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Mhmm.
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So Yeah. Anyway or any of the rest of you are all you need, obviously. But, boy, his body of work, jeez. You know, it reminds me of Thomas Edison. You know, Thomas Edison hardly ever slept. He had a couch, a chair in his studio there, and he'd go maybe sleep for four hours. And he said there's just not enough time. There's not enough time. And that seems to be how Brent is driven.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
Well, it it was the last hour of yesterday's program. It was Brent. He was, talking to Larry. Larry was, presenting very, very good questions on, what exactly is going on if, you have to get to the appellate level before you actually get due process. I mean, you're funneled into an administrative tribunal, and Yep. From that moment on from that moment on, from the moment that the cop scratches his name on a ticket and hands it to you to the point where you get to the appellate level and you can overturn the actual raping that they gave you with the the lower levels, your life is completely upside down. It costs you it costs you money to defend yourself.
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Why do you think I preach to you guys to try and stay out of that shit?
[02:05:28] Unknown:
Right. Well, there there is some cases where they'll actually drag you into it. I know. You know? They'll lock you up right on the side of the road.
[02:05:37] Unknown:
If at all possible, don't do that. Don't don't speed intentionally to get a damn ticket so you can go fight them in court. Nobody. There's got listen. There's yin and yang to everything, and there's yin and yang to that situation too. If you're really hell bent for leather and that's your personality, I'm a pit bull. I'm not gonna hold you back. I just want you to be damn well aware of what you're going into as you're making that decision. At that point, I'd throw my hands up because I can't argue with you. You don't have to be a scofflaw. You don't have to be a scofflaw to get in trouble with a code enforcement officer.
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They are looking they can write you a ticket for just being there. They don't need an excuse.
[02:06:22] Unknown:
They have a book. Six inches And they can lie. Codes you. Whatever. You know, it's just, try and stay out of there. And and be able to a defend your position. Yeah, Larry.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Here are. As far as that video that Paul uploaded, thank you for doing that, Paul. I started listening to it, and I think the first forty six minutes are just chitchat between these two Canadians.
[02:06:48] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. No. The the first forty six minutes has been edited out. It is now Okay. The version of five minutes long.
[02:06:58] Unknown:
Okay. The I started listening to it yesterday, and there's there's a version. Maybe you edited it, but it was, like, o almost three hours. And Yeah. It took me, like, the first forty five minutes to realize they were just chit chatting, waiting for John and Glenn to get on the air. So did you change that, or is that just another version?
[02:07:21] Unknown:
I changed that in the POD home edition. The video that I uploaded to the videos folder or the Recent files. That's where I found it. Okay. The video I uploaded, that was the the original video in its entirety. But the version that got put up on Tom on Pod Home was audio corrected, so it's easier to hear and understand John and Glenn. And it was shortened by that forty six minutes of idiotic banter at the beginning. Okay. I'm sorry. I said it. Those guys
[02:07:59] Unknown:
yeah. Those guys are their their Yeah. Yeah. They're, hilarious. Their their accents, it's just amazing.
[02:08:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd when I was trying to scan through where they were talking, you don't even wanna know how many times I said, get on with it, hoser.
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Yeah.
[02:08:23] Unknown:
Thank god. I know. That's funny. Well, that Have you shown up there? Everyone would've got a laugh. If you got that one, that's a rare the the I don't know of hardly any recordings of them together doing the tax stuff, so that's a real rare find, whoever found it. Thank you, Paul. Thanks for what you did for it, obviously.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
I went hunting four years ago when you mentioned it.
[02:08:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. There's some Roger, I'll just go ahead.
[02:08:48] Unknown:
Go ahead. One more thing, and I'll let Julie have the floor. A lot of times, I'm I'm helping students with these traffic violations. And the thing I'm finding is it always comes down to they were they were in either a hurry or there's something wrong with their vehicle, and that's why they got stopped. And so I don't think the, officers want to stop you for the most part. I mean, I'm sure you got some bad apples, but something brought attention to the officer. So, you know, like, there's this one student that, you know, didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Yeah. And, you know, another student had a some type of light burned out on the back of her car. You have to check your vehicle over and make sure everything's working. No. Make sure you come to a complete stop.
You know, don't bring attention to yourself, and you'll be fine.
[02:09:37] Unknown:
I that's what I'm trying to preach to people. Yeah?
[02:09:41] Unknown:
Yeah. And if you do get a ticket, I agree with you. If it's a hundred bucks, pay it and move on with your life. It ain't worth, you know, twenty five, forty hours of your life to try to fight that thing.
[02:09:52] Unknown:
It's just not. But, again, that's everybody's individual decision, but that's the conclusion I came to long ago after that court case I had with the IRS. So, anyway, that's exactly right. Julie, what'd you have, sweetie?
[02:10:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Hi. Paul, I'm on the website. I'm on the matrix doc, and I'm trying to find out where did you upload the PodHome? What do I click on on there? The GBN on PodHome, and it'll be uploaded there, The IRS interview?
[02:10:22] Unknown:
No. Just click on Global Voice Network or click on, Radio Ranch archives. Click here.
[02:10:29] Unknown:
Okay. Global Voice Radio Network? Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. And then if you click on the title
[02:10:39] Unknown:
if you click on the title of that episode, that will take you to the web page for that episode, and that's where you can see the transcript and the chapters because it was also split into chapters.
[02:10:54] Unknown:
Okay. So I'm on the global I'm on serve.podhome.fm, and then I just search for the No. Just scroll down. The historic interview with Glenn Amboort and John w Benson. I see it. Thank you so much. It's great. Click on the title. Now click on the title. Right.
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And that page that comes up, scroll down a little bit, you'll see a tab for chapters and transcript.
[02:11:19] Unknown:
Wow. Amazing. Thank you for all you do, Paul. You're welcome. Also download He get he gets the big bucks, Julie. Where do you download it?
[02:11:29] Unknown:
Okay. There's there's, if you look underneath the timeline, there's,
[02:11:35] Unknown:
you can advance to the and forth. Thank you. That's it, Mark. Thank you.
[02:11:40] Unknown:
Julie, there's a trick to that. You have to do a right click and save as. Okay. It'll it'll open up a window where you can save it in a folder of your choice. But I love this pod home. You're welcome, Julie. And I love this pod home because the transcript Like, I I was looking through yesterday's transcript with Brent, and, it just made it so much faster. I just zip through all the junk. I shouldn't say junk. The discussions. The the general discussion at the beginning.
[02:12:12] Unknown:
The peripheral issues.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
Yes. I skipped through that. Now I went back because I didn't catch the first hour. So it allowed me to kinda go back, read through the transcript, and get to where Brent got into the common law. So
[02:12:29] Unknown:
And I think what what Paul did on here, what Paul did with the switching over to Podholm, it's it's it's it's so much better. It's an amazing interface that it's just so much easier. And so thank you, Paul, for all your hard work.
[02:12:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, hopefully, we finally found an archive somewhere where we can compile everything. It's got some bells and whistles even on the older shows. That's a very positive development.
[02:12:54] Unknown:
Right. So cool. Well, all the older shows are there Well, going back three years, it didn't pick up the, it didn't pick up the episodes from, from, Castbox, but I do have those locally here on my, on my disc. Well, can you get them up on Pod Home when you get a chance or they didn't wanna take them? Yeah. I'd have more. I I can get them up there, but I have to do it one at a time.
[02:13:29] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Okay. Good lord. Alright. Well, we just got, you know, few chores around the place.
[02:13:34] Unknown:
One one one feature and and benefit of the transcript is if you scan through the transcript and use and you come across something that you wanna see, just click on that the beginning of that paragraph, and it should automatically cue the player at that point and then start playing right there.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Oh, wow. Yes. It's so cool. Very cool.
[02:14:00] Unknown:
Very cool. Well, I don't know about AI, but the little I've been exposed to it, I'm pretty impressed with it with its capabilities. I know it can be good and bad. So, who else has got something here before we check out for Easter weekend?
[02:14:16] Unknown:
Roger?
[02:14:17] Unknown:
You mean AI? Sketch.
[02:14:20] Unknown:
Legislatures are now using AI to write legislation.
[02:14:26] Unknown:
Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. We've got Jewish law firms that are contributing billions of dollars in pro bono work to write all the new anti Semitic laws that are coming. Oh my gosh. It's such a violation of the first amendment. Listen, they if they get Trump they get roped in and get in Trump. I swear these little slick bastards. Yes, Bob.
[02:14:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Yesterday, you were searching for the name of Robert's buddy over in UK in in European Union. Ambassadorship, that would be Norm Eisen
[02:15:02] Unknown:
or Yes. Norm Eisen. That's him. A real scum. Yeah. A real piece of work. Yep. Yep. Norm Eisen. That's correct, Bob. Thank you for being there. I, I made a phone call yesterday to the, circuit court and realized it was Good Friday, and they were closed. So I guess I'll see what happens Monday. Yeah. Well, I tell you, y'all gotta be grateful. Our high school was closed on Good Friday sixty one years ago. I would probably not be here. Yes, Julie?
[02:15:32] Unknown:
Yeah. House House Bill sixty ninety, antisemitism awareness act of 2023 when Biden was in. And, now they've got new stuff out here that US Congress passed a bill laying groundwork to criminalize all criticism of Zionism, Israel, or Jews in any context. These are the Noahide laws.
[02:15:55] Unknown:
Good. You go ahead and pass them because you're giving us a hell of a weapon when you do that. So you go ahead and pass them, you slimy bastards.
[02:16:05] Unknown:
Yep. And it prohibits criticism of Israel and Jews. Unbelievable.
[02:16:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Well, we walk around and be able to do it. You wanna press the envelope on envelope on an issue, it might be right here. Because you can go out and do that, and they won't lay a glove on you. Yes. Okay. Mark, who's that?
[02:16:23] Unknown:
Yeah. I was, gonna send Mark a case, but I I think I've got a well, I've got a a an email address for you, Mark, that has, like, document or something in it. Is Oh, that's that's gonna work. My personal one. But if you wanna email anybody, if you wanna email the straw man, you can reach him@strawmanatmark,allcaps,.com.
[02:16:47] Unknown:
Straw man, just like it sounds, @markallcaps.com. That's my that's the best place to email me if you got questions about the national status or anything to do with our show or or legal stuff.
[02:17:06] Unknown:
Hey, Raj. Quickly. Paul? Let me, let me hit you with the, AI generated description of the, John and Glenn interview. In this episode of MNR TV, we delve into the complex world of income taxes with our special guests, Glenn Amborth and John w Benson. The discussion centers around the concept of taxation by misrepresentation, exploring how taxes are levied and the impact of central banking systems on natural national economies. Glenn and John provide insights into the differences between income and sales taxes and how these affect individuals in both The United States and Canada. They also discuss the historical context of taxation and the influence of powerful banking families on global financial systems.
Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we explore the broader implications of financial control, including the role of central banks in perpetuating economic servitude. Glenn and John share their experiences and knowledge about the legal intricacies of tax laws, the influence of the Federal Reserve, and the potential for systemic collapse. The episode also touches on the controversial topics of government control, the influence of pharmaceutical companies, and the potential for global economic reset. Join us for a thought provoking discussion that challenges conventional understanding of taxation and economic sovereignty.
[02:18:38] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. Well, y'all are very fortunate. I'm glad somebody found that. I didn't. I knew there's other stuff out there. I'd I'd seen this interview. It used to be on YouTube. You said it was pulled.
[02:18:52] Unknown:
Yeah. It was scrubbed. Too bad. Yeah. I I searched high end low for it. The only place I was able to find it was Mhmm. In a, archive overflow folder on my 37 terabyte disk array. And it took some time searching just to pull it out of there. Uh-huh. But I did find it because I had it to begin with.
[02:19:15] Unknown:
Okay. Cool. Well, we're fortunate to have that. You guys can get a taste of John on that and Glenn also, of course. And, great. Well, thank you very much for cleaning up the audio and editing it and all that stuff.
[02:19:31] Unknown:
So anybody else? Yes. There's Larry. He's got something. Yeah, Larry. Yeah. I think on the after show yesterday, one of, the big concerns of Samuel find any case law that uses the term national to describe what we are. And so I think you avoid using that term and resort to using the term state citizen, small s, capital c, because there I guess there is case law that uses state citizen. And I'm thinking, well, there's plenty of, you know, United States codes and and, regulations not regulations. Regulations, I found the word national in, and even the INA, that, you know, use the term national. What are your thoughts on that?
[02:20:19] Unknown:
I I would say you're never gonna see a court case with hardly either one of them. And the evidence of that is the two cases by American Samoans. They've tried to get to the Supreme Court to write what they see as a wrong of not being able to have a this US citizenship and have access to the goodies. And the reason you're never gonna see any case higher than that is they're not gonna let it get that high. The same thing's gonna happen that happened in both of those. It got squashed at the appellate. The the, it it went through the DC circuit, and it went through the appellate level, and they wouldn't grant tertiary.
And then a couple of years later, the guy, a an American Samoan because there's a lot of American Samoans in Utah. You know, evidently Mormon stuff. And so they're hampered. There's a community of them out there around Salt Lake, and they have limitations on themselves. They can't be an officer if they join the service, the military. They, you can't in civil service stuff, they can only get so high grade, and they can't go any higher. They feel like that's discrimination. They brought a suit there with an American Samoan attorney and try and the judge if you hadn't heard this, Larry, your audience this is interesting.
A couple of years ago within the last, probably five years ago. Okay? And so somebody saw an article on it, and it was, an interview with the that was an American Samoan attorney, and he had a secondary attorney in DC. Because I went and called the circuit court or the district court and found all this stuff and tried to contact them. Okay? So, anyway, they bring it up in Salt Lake. They rule in their favor at the district court level there, federal district court. You wanna see why you're never gonna see it? So, the next morning, there were two amicus jury briefs, at their desk. One of them was from the federal government, and the other one was from American Samoa.
And I predicted at the time that it would get overturned at the tenth circuit, which it did. That's why you're never gonna see any. They're not gonna let them get up there because either one potentially exposes the fraud. So don't be concerned that it's in a court case. Be glad you got it in a a public laws, nationality act of 1940, definition a, over to title eight, they can't refuse it. Oh, are yeah. Are you is somebody worried that they're gonna refuse your affidavit?
[02:22:55] Unknown:
No. Not me. I've got a message for American Samoa if they're still thinking they want the goodies
[02:23:03] Unknown:
because goodies already.
[02:23:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they've got the goodies that matter. Here's the deal. American Samoa, if you're listening, and I certainly hope you are, doing whatever you have to do to get the goodies of United States citizenship is kinda like selling your soul to the devil for an ice cream cone on a hot day. Bounce. Once the ice cream cone is gone
[02:23:28] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:23:29] Unknown:
You're still gonna you're still gonna be baking,
[02:23:33] Unknown:
and it's only gonna get worse. You make a deal with the devil. So anyway and, yes, Larry.
[02:23:43] Unknown:
So I came up with an an idea that I gave, Samuel yesterday, and I already have a couple of, ladies looking into it. Nancy was one. So I heard from one of these, gurus. He's known as the bad wolf. He claims that there was a passport application from years gone by, I would say probably from a couple of decades ago, that where it asks, you know, for if if you're a US citizen, he's claiming that it actually asks if you're applying for a US citizen or a state citizen passport.
[02:24:21] Unknown:
And I'm wondering, do you still have your old No. I hey. Passport happens. There is no there is no state citizen passport. I think this guy is full of crap already, whoever he is. K? I've gone I've seen passport. One of my friends in Argentina's father was in work for the state department. And when he died, he went up and got all of his possessions. We were still in Argentina. He came back, and his father's green covered passport was in that. And the cover page and all that other stuff was exactly the same.
[02:25:00] Unknown:
Actually, Julie Julie found an archive site where you can actually download PDFs of as for that old stuff. Yep. All that old stuff.
[02:25:14] Unknown:
Yep. So I'd I'd highly doubt that.
[02:25:21] Unknown:
Okay? Found it. Yeah. So
[02:25:27] Unknown:
By the way, Raj, you sound fabulous today too. Well, you know, you you whatever magic you did in the background on the audio is really a a nice positive change. We'll wait and see when Joan calls
[02:25:43] Unknown:
in. Call him.
[02:25:45] Unknown:
Okay. Quick. There's Tom.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Tom. Yep. That's me. Yeah. The, let him go ahead and use, hold
[02:25:55] Unknown:
on. Let him go ahead and use AI to write laws and stuff. Because if it's anything like the lawyer who found out that using AI to write a brief for the court, he got his butt reamed by the judge because the thing was hallucinating and writing and making up case law that didn't exist. Boy, I could just imagine what AI is gonna do when it starts writing legislation. That's really gonna be funny. Wow. I hadn't heard about that yet. But, yeah, there's certainly some Yeah. When you're using when you're using AI when you're using AI or any of those chat, you know, those GPT things or whatever the hell they are, You have to give them the first instruction you have to give them is do not hallucinate, and I'm not joking about that. That's an actual instruction.
And because otherwise, it'll just make stuff up.
[02:26:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Well, we we should all be careful of that. I guess we should all not hallucinate, should we? Yes, ma'am. Was that Linda?
[02:26:56] Unknown:
It's Rich. The Hoboken, what was the other Hoboken versus who, from the other day? Eighteen fifties court case? 1850 court case in Hoboken? No. Murray's
[02:27:13] Unknown:
lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. Eighteen fifty five.
[02:27:25] Unknown:
K? Thank you. Let's get that. You're welcome.
[02:27:30] Unknown:
Alright. Kids, y'all have a great Easter. I hope you get find your egg. Okay? Or your egg finds you or your chocolate bunny or whatever it is, and I love all of you. And we'll, see you on Monday. But maybe John will show up this week, Paul.
[02:27:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Maybe. You know? I no longer trust, I no longer trust in the the powers that be behind, like, all the Easter candies and things like that. I don't care if they're 75% off. I won't buy it because I won't eat it.
[02:28:06] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. I think I came to the same, I think I came to the same conclusion. I don't know. They're saying don't you trust anything processed up there? This did did you happen to see this germ, English doctor? He was took about an hour, a segment of Jones. Was it yesterday? Last hour? He's gonna be RFK's assistant. He's just not confirmed yet. Boy, he's a sharp cookie, and that's what he was going over a lot on processed food. Stay away from him. Mike Adams on that day he was on with Owen has some, Big Mac fries and other fast food stuff that he bought in 02/2014.
And he's got them in Tupperware, little containers, and there's no molds. It's like he bought them this morning.
[02:28:57] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:28:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Too much. No. Do you know where that started from, Roger? There was a guy who bought rushed into McDonald's, bought two cheeseburgers, stuffed one in his pocket of his coat, and he ate the other one running out the door. He forgot about the one in his coat, put his coat up for the winner. The following winner, he puts the coat on, sticks his hand in there and goes, what's this? Pulls it out and it's the cheeseburger with no mold on it whatsoever. Had not That's right. Mold and no mold. Yep. And that started the whole
[02:29:31] Unknown:
investigation into the food that McDonald's comes out. And do you know what the most significant part of that is?
[02:29:39] Unknown:
What?
[02:29:41] Unknown:
There were no chew marks in the burger. You put food in a closet over winter. I don't care if you have mice or not. There's gonna be chew marks in the burger. Yeah. They wouldn't eat it.
[02:29:55] Unknown:
Well, don't you either?
[02:29:57] Unknown:
That's been a real blessing we've got down here. It's, it's just lovely being down here. What, Mark? Natural food. I don't know if it's true or not, but I've been told that if you set out a dish of butter and a dish of margarine, animals won't touch the margarine.
[02:30:14] Unknown:
I'm sure that's true.
[02:30:16] Unknown:
Yep. And also, if you set out an heirloom corn cob and a GMO corn cob, squirrels won't touch the GMO cob.
[02:30:26] Unknown:
Wow. Really? Wow.
[02:30:28] Unknown:
Nope. Yeah. Well, speaking of food, I gotta go.
[02:30:32] Unknown:
Well, I think so too. You're making me hungry, Paul. Well, even if it's about stuff I can't eat. Alright, y'all. I'll see you Monday. Love each and every solid one of you. Have a great, Easter with, your family. And if you don't have one of those, have it by yourself. And, we'll see, Monday. Let's see what's that twenty first. Okay. Happy Patriot's Day.
[02:30:54] Unknown:
Yes. Take care, Raj. Thank you. That's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on radio.globalvoiceradio.net and eurofolkradio.com. During the week, we are also on one zero six point nine WVOU FM Chicago, radio soapbox dot com, home network dot TV, freedom nation dot TV, go live TV, stream life Tube. We're literally almost everywhere. Almost. And we're still waiting on Infowars. Catch our website, thematrixdogs.com, for the link to the live streams as well as the links to the archives, interviews, downloadables, exhibits.
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[02:32:05] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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