In this episode of Roger Sayles Radio Ranch, we delve into the intricate history and current implications of the tax system in the United States. Roger Sales, alongside his co-host Paul, explores the origins of the tax system, tracing it back to the English statute de Mercator bus and the Jewish shettar, which have influenced modern tax practices. The discussion highlights how these ancient systems were adapted into the U.S. tax code, particularly focusing on the role of the IRS and the voluntary nature of tax compliance. Roger emphasizes the importance of understanding one's legal status and the implications of being a U.S. citizen or resident, as well as the potential benefits of declaring oneself a state citizen.
Listeners are encouraged to consider the historical context of taxation, including the transition from tariffs to income taxes and the impact of federal subsidies on farmers. The episode also touches on the legal intricacies of tax compliance, the role of the IRS, and the potential for legal remedies when challenging tax obligations. Roger and Paul engage with listeners' questions, providing insights into how to navigate the complex tax landscape and the importance of legal documentation in asserting one's rights. The episode concludes with a reminder of the sacrifices made by those who have sought to uncover and share this knowledge, urging listeners to take proactive steps in understanding and asserting their legal status.
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Alrighty. Well, that's also, and we keep trying six days a week. We take a stab at it. This is the Saturday edition of that. And it is April, and I mistakenly thought it was May and got Cinco de Mayo ed on my mind this morning. But it's just a month a month ahead, so you're now, you're you're you're alerted. So here we go. Roger Sales Radio Ranch, Saturday edition. And I don't we got a very light compliment of, assistance today, don't we, Paul?
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Yes. Very light compliment. We've got radiosoapbox.com, euro folk radio Com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Radio Soapbox dot com, of course, thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink, who is with us, for the moment, but he may have to drop off and and then join us through Zoom later. I've I've got him hooked up through Microsoft Teams. Yes. I have crossed over to the dark side, left Skype, and went to Teams. Oh my god. I'm thinking that I won't be able to get the ick off with battery acid and a Brillo pad, but we'll see. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network. Pod home is up and happy. Everything is running swimmingly. Yikes. Our website is global or is thematrixdocs.com, where you can find the links to free conference call. Join us live on the show. We got room for about a thousand of you. Come on down pack a lunch. Stay the day. Hey, baby. It's Saturday morning. Most of them are probably still sleeping.
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I'm going to reach out to Todd, who is, Jeff Rents' compliment of you. And, because he was he was bitching. When I was on there, he said, man, I've got, like, 6,000 phone numbers in Skype, and I wanna find you as you can imagine, I'll find out what the heck they, are planning on doing, and I'll let you know. So somebody's gonna come up with a solution for all this. How do you like it so far, Paul? Are you orienting towards tools?
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I've had I've had Teams loaded for about twelve hours now. Wow. Uh-huh. I did have to reboot my computer for it to work. Okay. And, and I have virtually nothing running on my workstation, which is probably why Teams is functioning. I have no idea if it's gonna be better or worse than Skype. I don't think anything can be worse than Skype because I think the problem with Skype is because they started out with something they bought, and then the Microsoft developers, they just started adding modules to it and then changing things. So they all so they had the overhead and the baggage from so many different versions where Teams is pretty much something new. They were able to build the core with, hopefully, something more intelligent and more efficient.
So that's what I'm hoping.
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Okay. Well, I'll I'll query the case. Well, I'll query as we go get into it because that's a decision some of us are gonna have to make. And, I I mean, we'll we'll find out. Okay. Anyway, it's Saturday edition here on the fifth. It was promised. I hope we got a nice compliment of folks out there. Because of the timing of the year, I generally don't do this presentation, but about now once a year. And and, of course, the way things are going, we may not be doing it at all here in a year or two, because there may not be an individuals representing Satan around. Maybe.
I'm kind of in one way, I'm, some unbelievable for me to think that I would be that I would be sad about the IRS leaving our lives. But, but, hell, they're my best recruiter, for folks like you out there in the audience and, your friends that have gotten turned on to this. Anyway, we'll see where it goes. I don't know how that's gonna open up. I keep thinking, how are they going to? And, of course, we don't have any ideas. We switch over to a tariff based system and that, making up for generating the are they gonna have a an opening of that the nationals don't have to or is there gonna be something left for nationals in that scene? So I don't know, you know, of course.
But, but it could be very interesting. So we'll see as we go forward. I'll tell you one thing. Trump gets rid of the IRS. He'll go down as the greatest president in the history of the country, period. Just from that right there, I would imagine. The hated and dreaded IRS and, what you're gonna find out today oh, okay. Go ahead, Paul. It's
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possible that he may go down as the greatest president ever unless he winds up replacing the IRS with something infinitely more evil. Well, I don't I don't know how that's changed.
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Well, we do in a sense. We've got some history here that we know about tariffs and mentioned it a couple of times. You know, we use tariffs from the eighteen seventies up till they passed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, and then the system was beginning to be set to switch to the tax system. K? Instead of tariff paying the taxes, and I've told the story. It I wonder how many people remember a book that was out, gosh, twenty five years ago called Goodbye April 15. It was written by a guy under the moniker of Boston Tea Party. I met him. I know his real name, and I met him at one of the expos. Really nice guy.
And, in that book, he had a a a cartoon, a political cartoon from the eighteen seventies. And it was a picture of the senate drawn hand drawn, the senate well. And down in the well, it was full of alligators. And the the the point was that they were making so much money that they thought it was gonna corrupt the senate, Paul. So there you go. Okay? So, no, it's viable. There's history here. And so we'll see as it go forward. It it's a wonderful thing, and it may be that, it is, well, gets a lot of these peoples in their clutches out from our lives. And mainly, if it goes the way I anticipate it and the way it's laid out, there's not gonna be an IRS, internal revenue, system, service. There's gonna be an external revenue service.
So send them bastards offshore. Okay? So, anyway, those are the things that are ahead of us, and and and it may negate the this system that we're gonna cover today, as evil as it is, as embedded as it's been in our lives for decades, ninety something years, it, it's bears knowing about it because it really, again, exposes our enemy. So okay. Go ahead. Comment.
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Okay. Now let me play devil's advocate here. And, and I try to be a glass half full guy. I really do. I really do. But, so what we can expect with the tariffs is the tariffs are going to be applied to imports as well as exports. But, the widgets that come over from China are gonna have a tariff on them. Well, not the widgets, but the but the bigger the bigger ticket items. But for for for an example, let's say something comes in from China and there's a tariff on it, a 50% tariff on it. The person the the, distributor that imports that, the importer, they're gonna have to pass that cost on to the next person down the line, which will eventually be the consumer.
Now it over time, it will work out because import and export tariffs will eventually balance. But when in history has a temporary increase in pricing or a temporary increase in taxation ever led to an eventual decrease? No. It it it goes Oh, yeah. If something goes up 10 or 20%, it tends to stay there. It may come back down five.
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Paul, with the ends, it's not the pricing. That's the incentive here or the endgame. It's to get the factories that are making those units to move to The US and produce internally so they can avoid the taxes, and that's already happening. K? So there's no debate here. It's already happening. Ford, came out yesterday. They've moved some of their, factories overseas. Right? And Ford came out yesterday, and for those cars that are now manufactured overseas that are brought back in and have to bear this tariff, anybody that goes to Ford and buys a Ford car gets their employee pricing.
So it's already happening, man. The trillions of dollars have already been pledged by people like Apple and these huge chipmakers to to start these factories in The US. So it's already happening. There there really isn't any debate here. K? And it's gonna increase because I think and all Trump did look. All he did was reciprocal. He said, if these countries are charging us something, we're gonna reciprocate. And he didn't even reciprocate at the full amount. He started out below the full amount and gave them that kind of a grace period. I I think it's a brilliant move, and I think we're gonna see it be very positive. One of the things is probably gonna go away is this tax system that I hope I can get around to talking about here. K? Correct. Okay. I don't wanna get in discussion on tariffs, please, to heat up our time. Go ahead, Joe.
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Well, I think it was Toyota that I heard on the news this early this morning is committed to building a new steel mill Yep. Just for auto production.
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Absolutely. Got, all those plants are in there. More coming and all that industry that these guys moved out of here with their Michael Milken junk bonds thirty years ago, are are many of them are gonna be moving back. And what's wrong with the reciprocal tariff? And I agree with Trump a %. These people have been charging these things, and we've had this World Trade Organization free trade crap, and we can't charge them tariffs. Well, all he does is if you're charging us, we're gonna charge you the same amount, which equals out at at net zero. And they're bitching about that? You know how much Paul, do you know the percentage that Japan, our buddy Japan, has been charging us on rice imports?
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Paul?
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Paul doesn't have an a guess? Not even a WAG? I'll give you the set the figure. Japan has been charging a 700% tariff on rice. 700%. Okay? So now, okay, you've been charged in stat. Well, we're gonna charge you 700% on stuff. And they're a friend of ours. It's like Trump said, he was friend or foe. And in many instances, the friends are the ones that are sticking it real far up our barracks bag there. K? So, anyway, let's get on to what the, schedule thing was. There's people, I think, that may be here that were told we're gonna talk about the tax system, and we haven't even touched on it yet. So let's get into it. This is John and Glenn's work. I'll be first to tell you, and as many of you have heard that their specialty was taxes. This is the accumulation of their work. It's probably a well, it's a description of the tax system that very few people on in the world understand, especially on our side.
And so that was the gift that they gave us. And, of course, after John died and Glenn got aggravated and all include that part of the story today if I can remember too. And they just turned everything over to me. Okay? So, anyway, that's, where we'll start. In the story, I think I'd like to start not with them but with me. And, that would be the very first piece of definitive information I ever stumbled on. I had been to Phil Marsh meeting. Some of you old timers remember who Phil Marsh was. Picked up some I was poor as a church mouse back then, generally. I didn't have a lot of expendable cash and picked up some all the free stuff he had to offer there. And I, spit out enough cash to buy his book, which I devoured.
And so, in in that, reading of that, that was my first exposure. And so, after that, we didn't have an Internet. This is in 1992, probably August of nineteen ninety two. And, I went down to the only resource I had available at the time, which was the Cobb County Library. I was living in Cobb County, Georgia on the Northwest Suburbs there. And, so I popped down to Downtown Marietta. So, a small little library, a lot of windows overlooking a really, really, picturesque Southern cemetery there from the civil war with a lot of, people that never should have died that are interned there.
Anyway, I went to the, reference part of the library, and I was looking through there. And I already because I'd read Phil Marsh's book, I already knew a little bit. And so I knew about the Federal Reserve already, and and I I went in and started looking for things in the reference section that might dovetail with that. Well, I found I remember it was red. I found a red book that said it's a collection of of, historical legal documents. That's pretty interesting. I said, well, I'll go and look around 2019, '15, and '13, around in there.
And so I did, and this is the document that popped up. You can go look at it on the Internet if you want to. It's the search term would be Woodrow Wilson repudiation of dollar diplomacy. Woodrow Wilson repudiation of dollar diplomacy. It's a very short document. You might wanna by the way, I hope some of you may wanna have a pencil and paper and take notes on some of this stuff. You go look at it later instead of missing what we're talking about here. Anyway, that was a very interesting thing. It must have been very early in Woodrow Wilson's, presidency. They didn't really have their hooks into him yet.
And, as the document tells you, it says, well, we were approached by a consortium. That's a nice word. A consortium of bankers. And, they wanted us to cosign this loan to China, so that they could help build railroads. This is around the turn of last century when the Rothschilds were building railroads all over the world in countries and and putting up their resources as collateral. So, anyway, it goes on and and talks about it. Just sell it's only a couple of paragraphs, really. I mean, there's only one paragraph that's really key that I'm getting at here. And it just gives the backstory. We're gonna loan, China a hundred million dollars here, for the, railroads so that they can build these railroads. And, we were looking for you to to cosign it. What do they want a cosigner for? Well, they want the muscle.
They want the muscle for when the, everything isn't paid back that they can send the military in there and put the pressure on them. And that's what they were asking Wilson to do, and Wilson said no. And then in that document, tax system that's going to be foisted upon the Chinese people. And and, boy, if this isn't accurate language, any of you that really messed with IRS should really appreciate this. Is Mark with us today? I hope he is. He's usually here on Saturdays. Anyway, said, the, the tax system that is projected is burdensome and antiquated.
Burdensome and antiquated. Doesn't that perfectly describe the tax system and title 26? Burdensome and antiquated. But here's the kicker right here. And administered by foreign agents. Administered by foreign agents. So if you've heard that the IRS is not part of the government, you'd you're you've heard correctly. K? They're not. They're pseudo, and they're under the department secretary of the treasury. They're at treasury. He controls all the IRS functions from an overhead. And, that position, secretary of the Treasury, of course, as we've discussed, was never there before the bankruptcy on March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. And, it says right there in Black's Law Dictionary, if you go look at bank holiday of nineteen thirty three, and it says the banks closed for five days, and they reopened under regulations by the secretary of the treasury.
Well, there wasn't a secretary of the treasury. There was a treasurer of the nine United States, but there wasn't a secretary of the treasury with all this power. And, there weren't any regulations because we never had administrative procedures before the bankruptcy. That's when the whole thing changed because now they had serfs. They didn't have serfs. They had freemen before that. And so there there it is and everything really that happened. And, that little document is quite revealing. In fact, the, I saw a gal that runs the bond, there's a big bond, I don't wanna a company, I guess, some sort of corporate structure, and they handle bond bonds and debt from all over the world. I heard saw her twice, on Epic Times stuff.
And, she said, well, I went and met with president Trump, and he knows this is the situation. Now what happened there, just to give you a short insight, is when, the Chinese, were given Hong Kong back by the Brits and that treaty well, when they signed that treaty, they paid off all the British bondholders on this loan to the Chinese that's referenced in this Woodrow Wilson document. Evidently, it was part of their deal, but they didn't pay off the Americans. There's about 20,000 bondholders in The United States that have never been paid a penny. Of course, China hates The US, and they're never gonna get paid a penny. I'm pretty sure.
So, she said, I've talked to president Trump about this, and the the 20,000 bondholders in The US that have never been paid a penny from that, that well, this was a couple years ago during COVID. It was worth 1,700,000,000,000.0 at that point. It had compounded. You wanna know about compound interest? There it is right there from nothing to 1,700,000,000,000.0 in a little over a hundred years. And, so here's what could happen if Trump really wants to be shrewd. And she said, I've been in his office and told him about this, that lady that ran this bond. She's an attorney, ran this bond thing. She said, we trade debts every day. K? That, Trump could go in, buy those bonds for a nickel or a dime on the dollar. Those people are never gonna see a penny out of them.
And go back and feed the Chinese bonds back to the Chinese as payments for our debt, and we'd still have some of their bonds left over. Back then when these numbers were more accurate before the interest has gone up, I believe we owed China One Point Two Billion trillion, and we had 1,700,000,000,000.0 in their defaulted bonds. So I've never heard it did any discussion about it, but it was real freaky because I was very familiar with this document. And then a couple years ago to see it brought up again in that context in this big political picture here. So it's kinda interesting. You may wanna go back and read it. Taxes are quite interesting. Most people, I find, don't know anything about them per se.
There's many there's two different varieties, direct and indirect. A direct tax is called a capitation tax. Capitation because it's on your head and it's on your body. And the other is an indirect tax, and that's called an that's called an excise tax. So you've got direct taxes, capitation, and excise taxes, indirect taxes. In the constitution, the founders put checks and balances in there in this tax system. Because supposedly, any direct tax, capitation tax or on your body tax, has to be apportioned by Congress. What does that mean?
That means that in those days, they wanted to buy this was one of the reasons the census was formed, by the way, was if there was a capitation tax passed by Congress, and capitation meaning everybody had to pay the same amount. And that's what the portion thing is for. Because there's a lot fewer people in, say, Rhode Island and Connecticut than there are in Pennsylvania or New York. But yet if there's a capitation tax levied by Congress, everybody in all the states pays the same amount, and that's a check and balance. And here's why.
If you're going along and we, you know, they had a pass, a direct tax, and it was, $5. And you go, well, we hadn't had to pay one of these in a while, but, $5 isn't too bad. And so they fork it up and pony it over to DC. Well, then the next year or two, we get caught in some war over the damn desert or over in Europe or some crap. And now they've gotta come in with a capitation tax, and it's not $5. It's $5,000. And everybody simultaneously in the country stands up and says, what the hell are you guys doing up there? So it's a check and a balance that was bit built into the system by the framers.
That's really important. And I don't know that I've ever heard anybody but John talk about that, quite frankly. So those are direct taxes. They have to be apportioned. Everybody has to pay the same. On the other side are excise taxes. They're indirect taxes. And what their requirement is, they have to be uniform. So unless you use federal gas tax. Okay? So even if you're down in Houston next to one of the refiners, and you've got federal tax and state tax probably too built into that gallon of gas you just bought. Well, because it's close to the refinery, you don't have a lot of transportation costs and all the other thing as would someone, let's say, in the interior of Alaska.
Well, the price is gonna be a lot higher, but the percentages of those taxes out of the cost of a gallon of gas will be the same. It'll be 20% in Texas, and it'll be 20% in Alaska. Uniform. And, excise taxes are often called indirect taxes. And that's what our, our our forefathers and these guys that were putting this new plan in had to get around. They had to get around all of that. And, boy, they, they've they've done it. You know? They did it real slick with the, with the, the way this whole thing has progressed. So, that basically are some of the background on taxes. Now if you like taxes, and there are people that really do, it's an interesting subject. It's it's it's really guided the world for a long time in this taxation issue. It's been used maliciously and offensively by our enemies, of course.
And you've heard all the sayings, death and taxes and etcetera, etcetera. Well, they wanted to bring this in. And, actually, what they did with this system was supplant the tariff system that we were discussing there at the head of the show. They didn't want all the other countries paying the tariffs and paying the any debt that they had, which they didn't have very much. They wanted this tax system brought in where you're they don't have to put money out because now in the new system, you're the property, and all they do is forward and collateralize your labor and then come back and make you pay that. And it's a direct tax, but it's not apportioned, and it can go all over the place. And so they use it very offensively as not only as a way to pay the bondholders, but as a way to penalize their enemies.
If they've got a a a competing company over there on the other side of the river, and they're gonna come in and lower all those EPA regulations and everything on their competitors, and their, company is right across the river is gonna dump stuff in the river, and they'll never even lift a finger towards them. So they use it economically and politically as well as to pay them the debt and put you under the yoke of that responsibility where they can get their thumb on you. So that's what that was all about. If you'd like to, find out more about taxes and do a little extracurricular activity, there is a, I'm sure he's probably no longer with us. He was an American that moved to Canada named Charles Adams, and he wrote a a very interesting book back in the it was published in the nineties. I saw him on one night. I'm sitting at home flipping around. There's nothing on TV, and I'm flipping through the channels.
And they're on on, space what? Space trash? C Span was, that they had a program probably still do called bookends where they have different authors come on and talk about their book. Well, I was watching, and here comes this guy, Charles Adams, with his book that's just recently published called The Effect of Taxation on the Rise and Fall of Civilization, something to that effect. You can find him and his work over at Lou Rockwell, l e w, rockwell dot com. Just put Charles Adams in. I believe there's a audio interview there about an hour long on his book. And this, well, it's pretty damn interesting topic on going through the history of civilizations all the way back to Egypt and showing you how the situation built up and how the taxing, policy had destroyed the country. And he goes through every civilization from Egypt up to us. And it's if you care about taxes or wanna know about any of that stuff, it's pretty darn interesting, and it's extremely thorough.
Okay? So Charles Adams, and you can go access his, his work. So that was something I stumbled on in the nineties, which was, quite interesting. And I wanted to give you all the information so you can access it. But, here's here's what happened with this information that I'm about to present to you. John, you know, I keep telling you about the sacrifices that have been made to get us here, and this is one of them. I don't talk about it too much. Forget about it, really. But John was in a group of Patriot guys out there in Denver, and I know one of the members of the group was John Nelson, who's a another Patriot researcher of some renowned. He hadn't had much of a profile in a number of years because, well, supposedly, they had a contract out on him.
He lived in, probably still does Durango, Colorado. Although Colorado's gotten so funky, he might have moved out. Anyway, he was in, John Benson was in that group there, and he had become estranged from his wife and children as many patriots have over this issue over the years, unfortunately. And, so he was right in a lot of the heavy part of his research years ago. And, one of the guys in the group owned a carpet company that had a warehouse in back. And so John got a mattress and threw it on the concrete in the warehouse, and for sixteen months, lived in that warehouse in Colorado and Denver area and, did nothing but mostly read, court cases, supreme court cases, with eyesight so bad he had to use a magnifying glass about as thick as a Coke bottle.
And that's what John did for sixteen months. I wonder if any of you would do something like that that dedicated and that sacrificial. But, anyway, it was in that time that he stumbled on a really important court case that, leads up to everything we're gonna talk about because it's the one that tells the story. And the name of the case, the style, is Murray's lessee Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. I don't know the site. Sorry. You can go look it up. It's all over the web. Still an active case. I mean, active from the standpoint of it's being cited, and it was in 1855.
Now this came up the other day on the show. It was what's called a jeopardy assessment. And it's one of the things where the IRS can go and grab stuff, where they look where it looks like it's admiralty law. So in this Murray's lessee case, and this goes back to tariffs, Paul. K? What had happened was the the head tax collector for the Port Of New York had been embezzling funds from that account and had embezzled even in those days over a million dollars in 1855. And, so tariffs work, buddy. There wasn't money there, he wouldn't have anything to embezzle. So the, Murray's lessee case had to do with a jeopardy assessment from a guy that run ran the port in New York City, embezzled over a million dollars, and he went out and bought land. And then whoever he bought land from had sold it. That's what this case was about, a jeopardy assessment when there's some danger of somebody leaving the country with something they've stolen, and they can come put a clamp on it. Okay? That's the only time they can do that without process.
Jeopardy assessments. There's a number of cases in the repertoire of tax cases. One other one is US v Bull, which you see, cited occasionally in tax stuff. So, anyway, John's reading this, case on Murray Murray's lessee, and they go, I kinda mentioned it yesterday. They say, well, you know, there's nothing in the constitution where we have any kind of direction or instruction on what to do on these types of cases. So the only thing we can do is to revert back to our country of origin and see how they handled it. And so in that dialogue, there were several footnotes at the bottom there as they included supreme court cases as references, and they referenced several writers who wrote on the XChecker. One was a guy named Chitty, c h I t t y, and another guy was a guy named Price. There was a couple of other ones. I just don't remember what their names were.
Well, what, John and Glenn did was they took those names, and back then, we didn't have the Internet. And they went to the only thing the closest thing they had was the interlibrary system. And, so you can go search all the libraries in the country. And so they went with all those authors and put them into the interlibrary search. And, Paul, you may or may not be surprised, they could only find two books in the entire United States of all that they requested. Oh, I'm not surprised. Now these guys pardon me?
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I'm not surprised.
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Of course not. One was at one was at Texas A and M, I believe, and the other was at the Library of Congress or something. And, so, they got into the rest of everything, and they started crossing swords with the IRS and got raided and all that stuff. So all that kinda got put on the back burner, okay, because of all the things they were spinning around. So anyway, it got to a point where they were being prosecuted by the federal government and, not for any of this stuff. It was they were just gonna get them off the street. Okay? Because they were out there running for Congress. John was running for senator against Orrin Hatch, and Glenn went out to run for the representative position against whoever. And they got out on the con campaign trail, and they started teaching all this tax stuff.
And that, I think, is what motivated the IRS to just get them off the street. So, anyway, all that was happening. Then they finally got access to some of the books as more and more books appeared on the Internet. It took them about five years, to, finally convict them and send them off to their respective prisons there. So they had some time at least to gather the books and read them and stuff and, at least absorb them to some extent. And then they got sent off to prison. Glenn was in Upper Minnesota, in, minimum security. And John, I I mentioned the other day, put him in a one of the only unairconditioned facilities in the entire BOP system in in the, of, when it's not Richmond, but it's I'll think of it a second. One of the one of the Virginia towns.
And, so Glenn, being very spiritual, wanted to get enrolled in a Petersburg, Virginia, wanted to enroll in a ministerial pros, program that the Bureau of Prisons offered. So he applied, and this is one of those things where whoever the bureaucrat was, I guess there were several facilities around the country that taught that, but the fat finger of fate intervened here. And whoever the bureaucrat was sent Glenn to the same Petersburg facility that John was in. And so they had read these books, and for those four years, they got to be together every afternoon for about four hours out in the exercise yard. Glen said, well, there's a big tree down at one end down there, some football field or some kind of exercise field. And he said, John was in a wheelchair, and I we limbed there under that tree and in that shade for hours a day.
They discuss what they remembered from reading these books. And that experience led to John's book called Taxation by Misrepresentation, The Truth About Taxes in Plain English. Now that book is available over on the book patch, and, you just put taxation without representation, it'll show up. It's not a page turner. It's condensing all this information that they learned and discussed and came to understand from these other authors that wrote books on the exchequer. The exchequer is the English variety of the Treasury. K? And so it's all that activity that had led us up to where we're gonna start here today, but that background was important for you to understand.
K? I think, anyway. So what happened that brought this tax system down upon us, quite frankly, was us, and we lied. We go into our common law courts, which is the only venue available at the time, and they would lie. They'd bring their buddies in, and they'd lie in open court. And the Jewish merchants that were bringing goods to England would get cheated out of their profits. And after a little bit of that, you can imagine with that bunch, it didn't take too long until they said they retaliated somehow. And they said, okay. Well, if you're gonna do that to us, we're just not gonna come back. Because, of course, England's got stuff they they have in abundance. Paul could probably list them off for us, but wool and oats and other different things that people in the world wanted and needed, but yet they didn't have lemons and limes and and and other things that tobacco spices that these merchants could come and exchange with them. Trade is the basis of all this stuff. Do y'all realize that's one of the only things there's a few. It's one of the only things that differentiates from us from other animals.
We trade. Okay? And that's the basis of this. And who's it say throughout the entire Bible? The merchants of the earth. Well, they're involved in trade. Wow. I wonder what laws they use. Man, I'll bet that's admiralty laws that those merchants are using. No. No, please. It's the Babylonian merchant code that they have been they have been immersed in for their whole lives in two thousand years. And they know every way you could twist it, turn it, weaponize it. All these laws have legitimate purposes, but they're just used and twisted and turned and weaponized against us. That's why they use the Babylonian merchant code.
Okay? Because they know it so well, and they can do this stuff to us. They come out and grab somebody's stuff, and they don't know anything about some of the things we're gonna talk about here today or or the Babylonian merchant code or law in general. And they go, well, that's gotta be Admiralty. They're just grabbing my stuff. Well, that's a prize, and there's no procedure. There's a bunch of procedure here. We're gonna talk about it today. Okay? So to alleviate the problem of the English not being able to get all the things that they needed in trade, there was a law passed over there in jolly old in December.
Twelve '80 '5. That's not too far after William the conqueror took over the country. Okay? October is December. Excuse me. And in English laws, they'll have 27 Elizabeth something something. And that's the way they identify like we would with statutes. That's the way they identify where the laws passed. So it was in the twenty seventh year of Queen Elizabeth, and it's this statute. So that was this statute called the statute de Mercantorius. May may Mercantorius, I believe. Merchants is what that means. Translation for merchants. The statute de mercantoribus.
And it was passed to try and alleviate this situation that had been brought about by Englishmen bringing in their pals and lying in court. And the Jews not getting their profits. And they got so disgusted, they said, well, we ain't coming back. Put that in your smoke and pipe it. So now they had to go in and try and figure out a way to alleviate that problem where we could get the merchants to the earth coming back so that we could exchange our goods and get rid of the things we've got in abundance and get the things that we don't have any of or a little of. K? And so what they did to turn that around in this statute, De Mercatoribus, again, I'll repeat it again if you wanna write it down. December was the year.
And and the statute took what they called and, identified as staple towns. And they would put this act in effect in those towns because staple towns are like staples, thing you things you need. So this was the trading centers of England, and I'm I probably don't know all of them. I know some of them. That's why I was happy Paul was with us. Certainly, London was one. Certainly, Southampton, down there close to where Paul lives, was one. Bristol was another one. I'm not sure where Bristol is. Manchester and Liverpool, no doubt, were were were ones.
And it was towns like that around England that the statute applied to. Now what they did was they made the mayor of every one of these identified staple towns called the mayor of the staple. So they gave him an extra title. He wasn't just the mayor. He was now the mayor of the staple. And so if there was ever a dispute in any one of these trading disputes, they brought the dispute to the mayor, and the mayor would put the case under seal. I'm gonna explain what that is in a minute. They would put the case under seal. And in this process, basically the same one we're dealing with today, the person that had the debt became the property of, here, the mayor of the staple.
And so the debt was on his body now. It wasn't just a debt. It was on his body. Okay? And anything that came into his hand, whether it was from rents, whether it was from sale of property, whether it was from inheritance, whether it was from regular business, any profits that were excess that came into his hands were grabbed by the mayor of the staple of the city, mayor of the may staple mayor, and then he would pay the creditor until the debt was paid off, and then the document was lifted. K? And so then he was free again. The debt was paid. Everything went on. Well, it not only cured the problem, it did such a wonderful job over a fairly short amount of time that, down the line, we had a king named Henry the eighth.
Pretty colorful king there in England, wanted to couldn't get a male heir, wanted to divorce and kill his wives that wouldn't give him a male child. He was fighting with the pope. He was fighting with the everybody to try and get money. And he looked over and saw how well the exchequer was handling this problem and how much they were making and said, well, I'm gonna take that system and come and apply it to my taxation collection. So it was Henry the eighth that took the system set up by the Statute des Mercantorum bus, incorporated it into the exchequer.
And that was the system that ran I'm just probably still running England, Paul. Okay? And this is the system they brought over to our country. So there's some of the background of it. Now what would happen after the exchequer got a hold of this system is they would go out into the countryside. I'm not sure if they announced it. There were people knew it was a regular occurrence or they went and bang flyers on a post or something. But they'd say the exchequer is gonna be in your area from this day to this day and at such and such a place. And what they would do is they'd get a table, big table, and they'd throw a checkered table cloth over it.
And that's how the treasury came to be named the exchequer, was because the table cloth that they would put over the tables when they were out doing their voluntary tax collection in England. Okay? So they would go out. And if you had taxes, you'd come talk to them, see how much you owed, however you want to work that out. It was in the people that didn't file that they had a problem because then they could use the same kind of techniques the IRS uses today. They could go they could go talk to Ferris's neighbor and go, how does that guy you have that big mansion over there with all those big cars and all the big parties he throws. He must be having some outside income. And so, they would go around and talk to your neighbors and all that kind of stuff, just like the IRS does, and they would take that information back to the exchequer.
And in the exchequer, there was an office that they would gather in, and then below it was the assessment office where they had the assessment roles. So they would come in and try and verify this that you hadn't filed and voluntarily, ponied up for, and they would try and come up with a tax that they thought you owed. And then they would take that and roll up the paper, and between their office and the office underneath them, which was called the office of the pipe, the office of the pipe. And they had a connecting pipe from that upper office down to the assessment office somewhat like a, you know, when you go to the bank and you're out there on the edge and you put that little tube in, sucks it up to the teller, something like that. Okay? Except it was gravity fed, obviously.
And so they would take the, amount that they had assessed, whoever it was, and they'd roll it up and shove it down this pipe to the assessment office below. And then because they can't come after you to pay something until you've been assessed. Okay? And so then they would take the amount, and they'd put it on the assessment roll. And then, boom, you were owed that. At that point, you owed that. Now here's where one of the places they changed it in our system. At that point, if you were in that situation, you could go in and contest this amount.
And so the way that you'd contest it is by having a trial, a common law trial with a jury of your peers, and they would have to verify the debt, and then it could be put on the collection and etcetera, etcetera. So here's the big difference. In our system, what do you do? They send you what's called in the patriot community a ninety day letter. Some of you have probably seen those. And they go, we got ninety days to either clear this up or you can, you can apply to tax court. Oh, boy. There's a fun trip for you. K? Because notice here, as they've changed the rules to protect the guilty, if you don't agree with it and pay it, then you can go to tax court. But if you go to tax court, you have to be the moving party.
You have to bring the action into tax court, which means now you have the burden of guilt. You've gotta prove that. And the only thing you can bring up in tax court is the amount. You can't bring up anything else about the tax system. The only thing is with the amount that they say you owe is the only thing you can argue. K. It's one of the ways they've made an important change here. So it was that system I'm trying to remember if there's anything else I forgot to tell you about it. It was that system that was brought over to our country in 1913 or the beginnings of it.
And, you can see from one of the one of the court cases, US v Wong Kim Ark, in the dissent there with chief justice Fuller and, John Harlan, the great dissenter, and they just lay it flat out that it's this feudal system. If this is done according to the rule, they're talking about the 10 the nineteen eighteen sixty five Civil Rights Act 1866, which turned into the fourteenth amendment. If the rule is dictating these, it was the relationship between a liege man and his liege lord. It was absolute and unbending and unchanged by time or space.
And it was brought into our country just as England was relieving itself of its inconveniences. That's right out of the descent in Wonkhiem Arc. K? So this is when they brought it over to us, and it was just being gotten rid of by England. Now at this point, is there anybody that's got a question or a comment? Oh, they can't unmute themselves. I'm sorry, Paul. I forgot. Okay. Well, let's just roll on then. K. And so, it was this system, and it all revolved around a document from the uniform commercial code. It's not admiralty law, folks. No no proximity of admiralty law.
So anybody that's told you that was relying on somebody else that told them and they believed it and passed it along and it's erroneous. K? So the document that was the centerpiece of all this activity that I just went over has a name. It's called a Jewish shetar, and that's spelled s h e t a r, a Jewish sheatar. Now at the time that this was being done, and I remember John making this comment, there was some English politician or somebody, and he said, this document goes back to time out of mind. So this document, this Jewish sheatar, went back to time out of mind even in the December because it was very ancient and evidently been used for a long time.
What is a Jewish sheatar? Well, a Jewish sheatar, if you go look under the uniform commercial code today, it's over in the under specialty contracts in the merchant code. And it says on this particular contract to fulfill the duties as a Jewish sheatar, and I'll give you the other names in a minute, to fulfill its duties and and application as a Jewish sheatar, it had two requirements. It had to have a recognizance a recognizance from the root word recognize, and it had to be signed under seal. A recognizance, it also has another thing called the defeasance in there, but the recognizance means, like defeat, the recognizance means that you in a somewhere in that document that you're gonna sign under seal, there is a paragraph which refers to laws outside of the document.
So for instance, another name for Jewish sheatar is a ten forty form. K? And in the ten forty form, the recognizance will be, I agree to abide by all the terms and conditions of title 26. Well, that's title 26 in the code and in the code of federal regulations. So in that document, you agree to abide by all of the terms and conditions in title 26. They also use this technique, a recognizance, in, especially in auto loans, but because the recognizance will be that you agree to abide by all of the codes in the state legislature as it applies to your payment on that on that agreement.
So in the state legislature, they decide, well, if they don't pay it on the sixty first day, you can go grab the car. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to get put on the docket. You don't have to get in front of a jury of your peers. You don't have to wait for a judgment. You don't have to wait for it to be filed before you can go exercise your remedy. The remedy is written into the contract, and it's spelled out in the well, let's say the official code of Georgia annotated. So you can go back to the official code of Georgia annotated and go through these payment, requirements in the state, and they'll say, well, if you didn't pay it within sixty days, you can go grab it.
And so, boy, on the fifth sixty first day, there's the the repossession team, the repo man, comes out with that long flat thing and boost your little lock on your door, and they get in and hotwire, and they're gone. And and you're screaming, Roger, Roger, Roger, they're taking my car. That really happened. Okay? And, and they don't have to tell you anything. And that's where I think that people get the idea they're in admiralty laws. They just come and grab stuff. But they don't realize that there's always process behind that. There's this. They've given you notices. They've done this. They've given you deadlines.
They've done all this stuff. That's process. There is none of that in admiralty law. K? Period. I accept the process in admiralty law as I drag down the flag of the country that I'm wanting you to think on my ship's part of. And right before I board you, I'm gonna throw up the Jolly Roger and let you know you've been had. That's the only process in Admiralty Law. K? So these are the principles here, the uniform commercial code that undergird our entire society, everyone on the world. It's all done on trade. That means finance. These are the these are the masters of both. They're the masters of money. They're the masters of merchant law. They're the masters of all this financial stuff. And those are things we don't have in our common law.
Okay? We don't have all these intricacies on what happens with finance and this, that, and the other. Somebody doesn't pay a contract and void. They they don't have all that stipulation. So, therefore, when we as societies get into these conditions where these things are brought forth, we don't have any way to cover it under common law generally. And so that's how partially we get these two bodies of law mixed, the law of the city and the law of the land. And and they're mixed in the first time they did it was in Rome, over a period of two hundred years, and it came from what's called the Juss, j u s, Juss Seville, J U S C I V I L E, and it changed it over two hundred years to the Juss Ginsum. And that's got a funny spelling but spelling, but it means the law of the foreigner. K? And let me see where where are we on time here.
Okay. We probably got enough time. Let me go into this because the same thing happened in our United States code. I was on the air here one day and said, oh, somebody get on your computer if you would out there and do find out where where we got the United States code when? Well, I think it was Sketch that came back and said, well, it started in the twenties. So The United States code, that centerpiece of our law that they love to use, wasn't even started until the nineteen twenties. Wow. Well, why is that? It's because they were setting up what was coming.
Now here's what happened in Rome. Rome and the Jeuseville, the first two hundred years of Rome, the, people lived under what's called the 12 tablets. And we don't know we've never found any of the tablets evidently, but we kinda know what was on them. And it was, you know, like, more or less a common law setup. It was a formal thing. You had to get a charge, come into a a somewhat of a common law court, face your accuser in front of other people, get a judgment, etcetera, etcetera. So it was kind of oriented in a common law way for the first two hundred years of Rome.
Then what happened was as Rome grew into an empire, they started getting out into the outreaches of the lands they'd conquered. Well, then the merchants of action was, man. It was the center of the empire. And so we get these foreign merchants that would come to Rome, and they are under the Babylonian merchant code. That's what they've been using. Okay? So that's what they bring with them is the Babylonian merchant code. And in the Babylonian merchant code, there's a thing, you know, we talk about law being rights, duties, and remedies. Okay? And so in the Babylonian merchant code, there's a particular way of dealing with remedies where it's got these elements in it where it takes you out of having to go through formal proceedings and the remedy is written into the contract.
Okay? So those are called self help remedies. Now if there's man, this is so important for you, especially for you new people. Self help remedies. If I ask you one of the some of the new folks about self help remedies, could you tell me about them? And they they wouldn't know. Probably. But if I said, for example, hey, William. Can you, one of our newer guys, him and Tony, could you guys tell me about self help remedies? And they go, not not I don't know that I've ever heard of those. But if I came back and said, hey, Tony and William, can you tell me about lien levy garnishment and seizure? There you go. Oh, yeah. We know about those. Okay. That's when they come grab your goodies. Right?
Well, that's a process. K? And what happens, it deals with this contract, this Jewish Shetar contract and this thing called a recognizance. And so if you don't perform what you're supposed to do with the contract, they come and grab the goods. It's built into the contract, and you agreed to it when you signed it. Just like your automobile contract, you agreed to pay those payments, so much principal, so much interest on this day of the month or up to this day of the month. And if you didn't play those, after sixty days, the car guy comes and grabs your car. Because if they had to go through that very formal jury, peers, indictment, all that stuff, well, you might be in Timbuktu with that car by the time it got out and they got access to it. So these things are not negative, but they're very positive. They're just being used negatively.
K? They've been weaponized. And it's been my thought for a long time. Just a second, Paul. It's been my thought for a long time that these are the beginning, appearances of tyranny is when they start bringing the UCC on you and start coming grabbing your stuff. And you, not understanding all this, automatically impute all the power into these guys. Well, they don't have the power. You gave it to them. You signed the document, and then you didn't fulfill it. So they came and grabbed it just as it's prescribed. It's totally a good remedy. Okay? But it's been misused. Yes, Paul.
[01:03:17] Unknown:
You know where else, you can find examples of, recognizance? No. The driver's license application and the motor vehicle registration where you agree Uh-huh. To abide by the motor vehicle code.
[01:03:36] Unknown:
Yep. Well, there's all kinds of these things out there. That doesn't necessarily make that a statute staple, though, because it's gotta be signed under seal. That's the other requirement. But I'm just setting you up on this recognizance thing and showing you what happened in Rome and how these situations conflagurate our laws. So in Rome, the attorney general was a guy named the the, praetor. And his you've heard of praetorian guards? Well, those were his private army, and and they ended up controlling who was put into the leadership positions of Rome eventually. But regardless, in those early days, the praetor was the attorney general.
Then Rome was smart enough to know that that position acquired a lot of power, and so they appointed a different praetor every year. And so the new incoming praetor would generally go back and recognize all of the previous praetor's work in a body of law, and they very rarely would make any real substantial changes. So what happened after the foreign merchants came to Rome and they brought with them their Babylonia merchant code and they brought with them these self help remedies? Well, the Romans being under the common law, if you will, or a more burdensome process, looked at these foreigners that were coming into their town and this easy way of remedy and this easy way of satisfying a fraudulent or somebody defaulting on a contract, and they started putting pressure on the praetor.
We want that. We want that. And over a period of two hundred years, their influence, along with the foreign merchants on Rome's, trade, the praetor brought the Babylonia merchant code and these self help remedies in and incorporated them with the 12 tablets. That is the Roman civil law referred to. Where does it mimic in us? In The United States code. Same damn thing. This is why in The United States code, you have positive and nonpositive law. Okay? Positive law being constitutional and nonpositive law being, well, for instance, title 26. I'm sure some of you may be surprised to know that title 26 was never passed by the senate or signed by the president, and it doesn't show up in the organic statutes at large.
It was brought in through the house because the house has exclusive jurisdiction over Washington, DC. That's the federal government. That's who was was bankrupt, the federal government. And, and and that's why title said '26 and the regulations were slipped into the the code without being passed by the senate and without being passed by assigned by the president. So it's only applicable to Washington DC. So let me ask you the the question again. Are you a resident? Mhmm. Are you a resident? Because now if you yes. You've agreed to being under the laws of Washington, DC, and that's how title 26 applies to you.
[01:06:47] Unknown:
Hey, Raj.
[01:06:49] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:06:50] Unknown:
Two things. We are in lecture mode, but if somebody has a question or a comment, you can raise your hand by dialing 941 if you're on the phone or by going to the reactions button and raising your hand there if you're connected by smartphone or computer. And, with respect to title 26, title title 26 was only passed by the house because the house has exclusive jurisdiction over Washington, DC.
[01:07:21] Unknown:
Correct. And that's the federal government, and they're the ones that are bankrupt. And because you said and answered the question, yes, I'm a resident, that means that you agreed to be under the laws of Washington DC. So guess what? It applies to you. Do you see how these shifty bastards work? They're real slick. Okay? So, yeah. If anybody's got any questions, this would probably be a good time to ask if you've got one. If not, I'll just roll on here. So, No hands up yet. Okay. So, we get the, the the Roman civil law, a combination of Babylonian and common law type principles.
Well, that's what happened in December. In December, they brought the Jewish Sheatar in England. Let me ask I wonder if Paul's with us. Paul, is are do they refer to these, instruments in England at all today? Statute staple bond or statute staple contract?
[01:08:25] Unknown:
I don't believe he's with us. No. He's not. He had to drop out of teams because he had a radio soapbox issue to deal with.
[01:08:34] Unknown:
Okay. Well, anyway, I'm sorry Paul isn't. But, but these were that that same Jewish sheatar as it was applied in England was called a statute staple bond or contract. So when the when there was a dispute in the staple towns, they would take the dispute to the mayor, and the mayor would issue one of these statute staple bonds and put it on the guy that owed the debt. And when he had satisfied the debt, it was lifted. In that interim, he was the property of England or the mayor of the city. K? And it that's how they get to the point where anything that comes into the debtor's hands is relieved to satisfy the debt.
They have to have a property right on you to do that. K? So a property right goes along with this document also. So in England, for all those years after December all the way up to whenever, it was referred to as a statute staple, bond, or contract. We refer to it as a ten forty form. Same document. Same instrument. Under seal, signed with a recognizance. You could write a ten forty out and send it to the IRS and say I owe you a trillion dollars. I will pay and satisfy the entire national debt. And if you don't sign it, they'll send it back to you. It's got to be signed under seal. What is seal?
Penalty of perjury. K? So there's the whole scope and the origin of how this tax law, this body of tax law applies to us. And I promise you, folks, it's the same tax law in every Rothschild central bank country of the world. Same thing. K? And so, so that's where we are. Now what happened with me was, as, I was doing this a while, the book came out and I got on with Al Attisk there for I guess, Al and I did shows for about a year and a half. I sure did enjoy it. And, so, in in that period of time, Al knew somebody that was an expert on IRS manuals.
And the IRS has these internal manuals. Some of you have probably seen them along the way, and they tell you everything they're doing internally with with what they call codes and push codes. K? And so, this guy was a master. I cannot remember his name. But anyway and now I had on my side, I had Glenn left who knew this entire old English process I would just describe to you. So we put those two together. And and boom, fireworks start happening. As he compared all the things they do internally with this process that I just described to you and all kinds of things came out of it for them, understanding. And so, you know, what's the Bible say? Above all, seek understanding.
And so, then they gone I think it was through, the other fellas' side. They had a case in Southern California, a doctor in San Diego, who had been charged with two charges of failure to file. And so they got a hold of the law firm, and, they explained the situation to them. And the law firm was open to using these ideas and bringing this information forward, which is not in you can't hardly find it in The US, Paul. K? So you wonder why judges and lawyers don't know anything about this stuff? So, they've the the law firm agreed to utilize the thing, and John Glenn wrote all the process. They didn't even have to write the process. He'd write it all.
He's brilliant. He's brilliant in that area. K? And, so they went through the trial, and the guy was convicted. And and failure to file, you gotta have a jury. K. This is preponderance of the evidence. And so because there's criminal stuff involved, criminal penalties. And so they, found the poor doctor guilty there, and they appealed it to the ninth circuit. And the ninth circuit agreed with their rulings, and and Glenn got so disgusted that he turned his back and walked away and and and doesn't wanna mess with this anymore. He's off doing other stuff Because it's what he told me. He said, Roger, not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it.
And so after that trial, however, and the appeal, whoever the attorney general was at that point, put a nationwide moratorium on push code o nine. You cannot go to any federal court in The United States and bring up push code o nine from the IRS. It is a moratorium on that subject, to my knowledge, still today. So what is and why is push code o nine so important? Now let's go from the old process to the new process. And this has something to do with more with people who did not file than people that did file, and they're gonna come and audit you. Because it's you non filers that they don't wanna get in there even though, apparently, the system is voluntary.
K? And so what they do is if you haven't filed, they will, send you we had somebody with one of those letters the other day on the show here, I think this past week. I said, oh, dear Paul. Dear Paul Beaner, we haven't received your tax returns for 2019 and 2020. If you've already sent those in, please disregard this message. However, if you haven't, we may contact you and ask you to bring in some of your books and records. Any of y'all ever seen one of those? I was very Any friends that did? You get have you ever gotten one of those, Paul? Well, no. You're probably a dudefull. Oh, yes.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
Oh, no. No. No. Actually, I did get one of those, and like an idiot, I did file.
[01:15:23] Unknown:
Okay. So here's what they're telling you. Again, this is speculation by John Benson. I've never found anything that he speculated about that what didn't didn't turn out to be true. K? So if you go back and look in that area where we found the Jewish sheatar in specialty contracts on the UCC. There there's another contract, and it's called a confirmatory writing. A confirmatory writing. And that is what they're using on us, and it's how these guys can manipulate the UCC is the, the letter is considered a confirmatory writing, at least that's what John thought. And if you go and look at the confirmatory writing, it says a letter but between merchants who are both apprised to know the contents of the writing.
And if you don't expressly deny the writing within ten days, then it's agreed you've accepted it. So it's a contract that you're supposed to know about that if you do not if you, like, throw it in the trash can like most of our Patriot friends do, well, in ten days, now you're locked into the front end of a voluntary system with a voluntary contract that you didn't understand. Pretty slick.
[01:16:55] Unknown:
Very slick. So And sneaky. So now
[01:16:58] Unknown:
oh, of course. Well, that's their MO. Now they start the process. And when you go up to, William forgot where the IRS is up to Williamsburg, West Virginia or someplace up there. Anyway, that's where the IRS computer is, and and the computer is programmed correctly. And so for it to operate and go through its process, there has to be a ten forty involved. That's why they did this confirmatory writing thing. And so when it gets to that point in the process and the computer stops, it can't go any further forward because there's not a ten forty fine filed. So that's when the IRS comes in, and they exercise something out of the manuals called push code o nine.
So the agent goes in, and they do push code o nine. And it stops the process and opens it up and allows a substitute for return or an SFR or a dummy return, as they're called in the Patriot Movement, it allows that agent to insert the dummy return that you never signed. But they've assessed you did because you didn't answer back, and you agreed with the contract on the front end. So now they've got the ten forty in with the numbers that the IRS agent wants to put on them, and then they unleash the computer. Now a ten forty has been filed. So just like the, office of the pipe, now it goes through the pipe over to assessment, and they assess whatever the numbers are, and then they start issuing deficiencies and everything else. And that, after they've sent you a number of those and stuff, is when they can start come grabbing your stuff, which appears to be admiralty law but is not. There's tons of process behind it. K?
So that is the important part of that. And as I said, I think I forgot to say this last time I did this lecture, that after this case in the ninth circuit in San Francisco, the Department of Justice put a national moratorium through the entire federal district court system, you cannot bring up push code o nine in any district court in The United States.
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Right.
[01:19:31] Unknown:
I think they think I think they take it pretty seriously, Paul, and I think we've got the Achilles heel right there. K. Yes. What's your comment or question, Paul?
[01:19:42] Unknown:
Okay. Richard has his hand up, and I'll unmute him in a moment. But I do think that Admiralty Law does exist in at least one place in this country, and that is in traffic court because there is no due process. All you have to do is show up and trust me. They kick your ass, and they take your stop. Well, I but but you signed the driver's license, so you agreed to voluntarily.
[01:20:09] Unknown:
So it's not admiralty law. So don't don't mingle and muddy the water here too much. We're trying to get these folks straight. Richard, did you have a question or comment?
[01:20:22] Unknown:
Come on. Oh, Richard. Well, his hand is up. I unmuted him. You got him all unmuted. Oh, Richard. Locally.
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Richard? Oh, Richard. Pots and pans banging around? Are you cooking breakfast? You hear me? Yeah. Barely. Barely.
[01:20:45] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought you had us all, on mute.
[01:20:53] Unknown:
You yeah. I unmuted you because you had your hand up.
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Okay. Yes. That push code 0 9 that you were talking about earlier?
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No. Yeah, sir.
[01:21:09] Unknown:
Okay. I did not I found out that H and R Block filed for me. And I think that's maybe what also started that, inquiry about my, not filing.
[01:21:33] Unknown:
Richard, H and R Block doesn't push code o nine. They're an outside company that does tax returns for people. They don't go in and do that. Sorry, sir. I think you I think you're a little off there. I
[01:21:47] Unknown:
well, no. What I'm saying, Roger, what I was what I was looking into, why the IRS is saying that I owe them this much money back in 2018. I went to H and R Block for them to do my taxes. When they told me that I owed the IRS, a certain amount of money, I immediately stopped what I was doing with H and R Block. I went down and took a local, I went down and took a local, loan. I made it into the bank fifteen minutes before they closed. And then the next day, I sent that check off, to the IRS, and I never went back to,
[01:22:34] Unknown:
Hold it. H and R. Hold it. You you told them to send that amount of money to the IRS. Did you have a ten forty form with it? No. I just screwed send them with a check. Richard. Richard, you screwed up. Go ahead. Try to snap again.
[01:22:52] Unknown:
Okay. And I never went back and filed. I never went back and, paid H and R Block because they told me that it was gonna cost me $300 for them to do my taxes to tell me that I had to pay the IRS, what was it? 1,700 and something dollars. Because I took the early withdrawal from my, Thrift Savings Plan. So I haven't, I'm starting to get all these letters for each of these co taxable years.
[01:23:28] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:23:29] Unknown:
Well, I don't know what happened there, but if you didn't if you send them a check through the bank without a ten forty form, you messed up with a capital f. Did they send the check back to you?
[01:23:40] Unknown:
No.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
Okay. They didn't. Well, you you screwed up, Richard.
[01:23:47] Unknown:
Okay. Sorry. Okay.
[01:23:49] Unknown:
Live and learn. Live and learn. What what I thought was kind of unusual is why did the, H and R Block send a ten forty to the IRS when I never
[01:24:02] Unknown:
Well, they it wouldn't have mattered if they did. Richard, it wouldn't have mattered if the H and R Block sent a ten forty. You didn't sign it. If it's unsigned, it means nothing. Right. And, yeah, that's what I told you. I don't know why this is. Richard, I I hardly understand you. You're, like, real garbled, and it sounds like you're in a kennel somewhere.
[01:24:26] Unknown:
Yes. Alright. I'll sign off then. Thanks for taking the call. Bye. Alright. Thank you, Richard. Go feed the puppies.
[01:24:35] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else got, while we're to pause here, anybody else got a comment or a question?
[01:24:41] Unknown:
No other hands up right now. No other hands up. Okay.
[01:24:45] Unknown:
Well, anyway, that's kind of the, the system right there and the way it works and the way that we know it works. And, of course, we refer back to '26 CFR. Now this is very interesting, Paul. It is a voluntary system. That's what the guy got in front of Congress. Now your ATF taxes, they're mandatory, but your IRS taxes are voluntary. That was in front of Congress, alright, years ago. So, here is where you go down to 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, and and it says all an income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States and residents. Well, that sounds mandatory to me, doesn't it, to you?
[01:25:32] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:25:33] Unknown:
Well, I I don't understand how you get a voluntary tax system out of that. Okay. So there there's a little bit of confusion on my end, Steven. Okay. Well, let me finish. Okay. It's easy. I'm waiting. Okay.
[01:25:50] Unknown:
An inventory, an an income tax is owed by all citizens and residents where it's voluntary. Volunteering to be a citizen and identifying yourself as a resident, then it becomes mandatory. Well But your status as a citizen is voluntary.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
Okay. What about if the guy that's a citizen or resident doesn't file and they have to go in voluntarily, and they gotta go in and trick him with this confirmatory writing? And I don't know the answer to this quite frankly. I've toyed with it over the years a time or two. Anyway, that's one little inconsistency in there, but that appears to be a law to me. Okay? If you're one of those, you do this. Okay? So, anyway, that's kind of the tax system. And, of course, what we do is go in and get you to file this paperwork saying that you're a state citizen because they are still under the original coverage of the constitution, and you still have this, all all, direct taxes have to be, apportioned.
Well, that applies to you now, and that's why they can't apply the income tax to us. And then that little jurisdictional statement there as it goes on, it says, however, the, 08/1877 b taxes are owed by all nonresident alien individuals. Well, if you go back and look at those taxes, they're both constitutional taxes. So, anyway, it's a they have done a masterful job of setting this up. They've been working on making this a very difficult to, navigate, settle laws, the the the the eternal revenue service laws, you know, burdensome and antiquated is what Woodrow Wilson called them.
There was a senator in when they were writing that tax book, John and Glenn stumbled on this quote. It was from a senator in the forties named Barclay, very, very evidently highly respected. They were talking about running him as a vice presidential candidate. And, he he he resigned from the senate, and the whole senate wrote him a letter and cosigned it and asking him to come back, and he did. And, he was the head of at that point, the senate had a ways and means committee for some reason where all the money's cooked up. And so his statement was he was the head of the ways and means committee.
His statement was every year, we get together and the folks from Treasury come over, and we try and explain to them that we want to simplify and reduce the tax code.
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And every year And every year, it gets bigger.
[01:28:42] Unknown:
The folks from Treasury come back, and they deliver us something that only Solomon and all of his wise men could interpret. Antiquated and burdensome and confusing, meant to be that way so they can fleece your ass, turn you up by the ankles, and shake you out every year.
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And administered by foreign agents.
[01:29:10] Unknown:
Administered by foreign agents. So, that's why if you go around to the IRS, you'll find they're never in government buildings. They're always in they have to go rent all of their facilities around the country. So that's our buddies over there at the Internal Revenue Service. That's the tax system that they're using. It goes back to, according to that Englishman, time out of mind. The same document with different labels is included, a Jewish sheatar, a statute staple bond or contract, and a ten forty form. Now if you wanna validate this, you can go online. We used to have it over on the other website. We probably ought to get it on ours again, Paul.
There was a, a a very scholarly, article. It was written by a Jewess named Judith Shapiro, and it was published in the very prestigious Georgetown Law Review. And the title, the best I can remember it, is how the Jewish sheatar invaded the English common law. And it's, I don't know, fifteen, twenty pages. It's quite a scholarly tome. It's very accurate on its historical, facts, but miss Shapiro or missus Shapiro, the good Jewess, doesn't tell us in that article that a Jewish sheatar is also referred to as a ten forty form. Somehow, she forgot that.
If you wanna learn more of the explicit details on what we've covered just in an overview today, the how the English sheatar invaded the English common law, written by Judy Judith Shapiro. You can find it online. K? So if you wanna validate the things I've told you, it's all in there. Much more detail. So, now who who else can we talk to? I can't believe Mark hadn't been with us this week at all. You think he's hope he's not sick and a relapse. I hadn't heard from him. Anyway, it wasn't here Wednesday, and I I thought he'd be with us today. I think he knew we were gonna do this, and he wasn't familiar with a lot of this. So he'll probably get it on the replay or on the, archives.
Now if we can interrupt, we got about, I don't know, thirty minutes left. I don't I can't think of anything that I was gonna say that I haven't. So, if you've got questions or comments, I'd love to entertain them. So, Paul, go ahead and unmute everybody, and we can get into a free for all or wherever we're going here today. Here we go. Let the fuck kind of a weird all participants are needed, and they can unmute themselves. Yeah. It's been a weird week already. Well, there's a comment right there. Hey, Joe.
[01:32:16] Unknown:
Roger, I wanna thank you for your the history that you bring forth. It's unfortunate that younger people are not aware of these historical events and aspects, And I don't think that many realize the importance. They're listening, but they don't realize just how much gravity these things this history has on how we go forward.
[01:32:47] Unknown:
Yep. And I think Well, it is come I it is you're welcome, Joe, and it's my pleasure. I'm just tickled to be have the knowledge that I can put out there that hadn't been lost yet. Because, I mean, really, if it wasn't for John and Glenn, none of us would know any of this stuff. So, I I hope you people are gonna try and enforce on you and impress on you the sacrifices that have been made by John Benson, Glenn Amboard, and me over all these hundred plus years to be able to bring this information to you with accuracy and credibility. K? Because the these men spent the whole adult part of their lives along with me on investigating it and trying to put all these things together where we could have a remedy that worked, that was understandable, that is easily passed. In other words, here's here's the what I've been trying to do is to simplify this complex stuff as much as possible where I could get it down to a basic understanding.
Like, remember the Jim Crow laws? Yeah. Well, they tricked us all into being Jim Crow. Now that's pretty damn simple. Okay? And you need to understand some stuff to really understand it, but it's pretty damn simple on a description of what they've done here. And so, I'm I just, I'm so grateful to God for having me in the six months those guys were teaching, crossed paths with them. I mean, what are the chances of that thirty something years ago? K? And and and to have been the one person out of the whole shooting match, 1,200 students that took this further, everybody else dropped off.
And now I continue to doggedly pursue it, and look what we found. Look what we found. And that causes me often to go back and look at that situation and try and analyze it a bit. I'm an analytical type of person. And, so I I I I I look at it like, man, what if we wouldn't have known this? K? I I mean, what if my path wouldn't have crossed them in that six months If I wouldn't have been and I went over the statistics on this the other day with William and Tony. About 300,000,000 people in the country at that time, estimate. So in six months, twelve hundred out of 300,000,000 paid to go through this course.
And out of that 300,000,000 and that 1,200, I was the only one that took this further because they were all in there because the tax issue. I didn't have a tax problem till I met these guys. K? I had a curiosity. I'd always known that something was wrong, and that's what hooked me. And you see, I think they were being driven to it by heat at the back of their pants. And I was being sucked to it out of curiosity and a a a a dying a search for truth and understanding. And I think that's the difference right there, really. Okay. We have another hand up. Regardless of whatever that was, you better be damn grateful, a, that it happened. And damn grateful that I left the country back in 02/2007, decided to, and applied for a passport and found the key to the whole thing that I'd been looking for for fifteen years that I could never isolate because they changed the label on the object concept.
And that's what messed me up. K? And on that passport application, because of that letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida telling me, no. I can't issue you a letter of citizenship for the state of Florida because the secretary of state has all authority over all matters concerning citizenship. And right underneath that was the warning box, which doesn't say you can attach the why. It's you can attach documents including affidavits. It doesn't tell you why. It just tells you because they've gotta put it in there. There you have a responsibility at law, and they do follow some these laws, folks.
They don't want that warning box in the passport application, But it's a general app it's a, information gathering request to the public. And because of Watergate and the paperwork reduction act, all public information gathering requests have to have an OMB number, which means they've gotta go through the Office of Management and Budget and and fit all these very strict guidelines and check marks. And they'll issue them that document with an OMB number, and then they can put it out to gather information. That's why that warning box is in there. If that law wouldn't be passed, it wouldn't be in there, folks. And it's in the original DS 11 and in a DS 82, renewal because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time.
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There it is right in front of you. Now who had the hand up? Paul, please. We have another hand up. Scott in New York. I am unmuting you. You will have to mute yourself again after you're done talking by pressing star six. Hi, Scott. Hi, Scott. Yeah. I I see my chair is so creaky. I made a creak with the chair and you needed me. Yeah. How is everybody doing? I've been through a lot. I finally got my cases well, the case of the guardianship dismissed after seven years, January third. So I'm gonna try to get my Good. Yeah. Yeah. I really appreciate.
Now I can really, like, really do stuff, not stress. But I just tried to wand my water this morning to take some iodine, and it shorted out and started going how do you open these things? Has anyone ever taken one apart? The the blue part twists off, and then you have this little tiny little thing. It seems like it's glued together. Anybody ever dismantle one? It's the switch that broke.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
I I haven't, and I'd write a, email to John Kacera whose email address is right there on the website.
[01:39:00] Unknown:
Okay? Oh, he's actually taken on part. I didn't know he was handy also.
[01:39:04] Unknown:
No. No. No. I didn't say you're taking him apart. I said that you need to email him, and I don't know of anybody. There's probably a couple of folks that have taken him apart, but I'd rather have questions on what we're doing here today. Yeah. I know. I I'll hug you. Thank you so much. I'm back, though. Okay. Alright. Now who was the other person that had a hand up there, Paul?
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That was it.
[01:39:25] Unknown:
Bruce. I'm Oak. Yeah. Bruce. I've been up for a while.
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Do you hear me? Okay. Yeah. We're here to service you, man.
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Okay. I I had my hand up, and you didn't call me out. So I was gonna be patient with you. See it. Paul has the vision. I don't see it. Hand isn't okay. Your your hand isn't Well, I'm just asking.
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Paul says your hand isn't up. Bruce, he said your hand wasn't up.
[01:39:56] Unknown:
Okay. I just I don't know. Do you have a question? Okay. Well, let's let's go. I got a question.
[01:40:01] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm dying to hear it.
[01:40:05] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. What you read to us applies to The US citizen, not the, of what we are. Now
[01:40:16] Unknown:
residents.
[01:40:17] Unknown:
Citizen or resident.
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Okay. So we're nationals, and we're out of their jurisdiction.
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Correct.
[01:40:29] Unknown:
Okay. That's what I wanna find out. How do we handle it with this IRS and with this affidavit and whatever we're doing with them? They got they get noticed. Is that going to relieve our duties to pay taxes to them?
[01:40:50] Unknown:
Well, yes. It does. It's unless you owe eight seventy one and eight seventy seven b taxes. It's right there in the regulation. I've probably cited it a hundred or more times on the show. Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Just wanna clarify the the motive of what we're doing here. Okay. Well, just read this read the regulation. It's pretty self explanatory, I'm pretty sure, Bruce. An income tax is owed by all individuals. Now the important thing is maybe not yeah. It's important that they didn't use the word person there. An income tax is owed by all persons who are citizens of The United States or or or residents and to the extent of those two sections, all nonresident alien individuals. Now why didn't they use the word person there?
[01:41:49] Unknown:
Why didn't they use person?
[01:41:52] Unknown:
Why didn't they use the word person and use the word individual?
[01:41:58] Unknown:
I don't know. That's beyond my favorite. Corporations,
[01:42:03] Unknown:
trusts, partnerships, etcetera, etcetera, and they've got their own separate schedules over there. Part one is for individuals. That an individual comes from the root word indivisible. And the reason they use that word specifically is because you get your rights and duties, the individual in the same entity. Corporations do not. They get the rights, and the duties are over in the board of directors. Okay? So it's very interesting that they use that word individual there instead of person. Just something I've noticed over the years. Our newer people probably don't get the grasp of this.
And, I'm not sure. We got a little bit of time here. It's an important module, the law background here. The formula that runs the world is probably more for William and Tony and any of the newer people that are on than than the older folks because you've heard this before. The in the formula that runs the world, it's a very simple formula, is called r plus d equals r. Rights plus duties equal remedies. And so the type of legal person that you are, as it's just talking about here with this regulation, is a person. This is what none very few of your judges and probably none of your lawyers know, unless they're Jewish. I bet if they're Jews, they get exposed to this.
An entity, a person this is the definition. Here's where you need your notepad. The definition of person is, quote, an entity, e n t I t y, an entity to whom the law assigns rights and duties. So that's the left side of that pair of that, formula, r plus d, rights plus duties. Now some people will teach you. Brent would argue. He's been an attorney for twenty years, very knowledgeable. He would, argue that a duty arises from a right. Yeah. It's not wrong. Okay? Ed Vieira, the scholarly Harvard guy with all the PhDs from up there, a a good patriot, says that a right and a duty are the same thing.
Well, that may be true too. But you people being new to this stuff here, I try and teach you that they're correlative, that a right and a duty every right has a correlative duty. I have a right to life, and I have a duty not to take your life. So every right has a correlative duty. And then the right side is a remedy. And isn't it interesting that one the remedy is equal to both the rights and the duties on the left side of the equation? And that's where you can come in and use this formula and use the knowledge. Well, you gotta probably work with it a bit, get a little bit fluent at it. But, Jeff Rents asked me the question. He said, well, I hear this Admiralty Law. Can you explain it? I said, Jeff, it's real easy. I said, e r plus d equals r, formula that runs the world, explained it to him. And I said the rights and the duties in this question, we're gonna switch over to remedies.
So let's go to remedies in all of the bodies of law, and we have this page on the inter on our website somewhere, Paul. You direct them to it, but it's got every body of law in the world, the common law with the king's bench. Somebody mentioned the king's bench the other day. It was yesterday when Paul was here. He was in front he was on the king's bench in his in his house thing over there. Then you got equity. Then you got, you might have maritime. Then you might have admiralty. Then you might have, something else. There's about seven different bodies of law. And how do you know which one applies to you? That formula, legal person.
Where does you, the entity, get your rights and know your duties? Well, wherever you get it from is where you owe is what kind of person you are. Okay? The fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized. Well, does that mean everybody? No. That's legal persons. So they're telling you, if you're a fourteenth amendment person, you're born or naturalized, and you go to the fourteenth amendment, you get your civil rights, and you owe your duties like filing your income tax form and following the regulations from all these wacko agencies. So that's the person you are. You're a fourteenth amendment person, all persons. Doesn't apply to everybody. That's why in the next thing, it says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It doesn't say all persons born or naturalized in The United States are subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's definitive.
This is and. There's a choice there. If there's some that are and subject and you've gotta do something to do it, then there are some that are and not subject. So there's where you come back, go to the constitution and say, well, voluntary servitude is legal by omission in the thirteenth amendment and where they say they can't impair the ability to contract. That's a contract. They can't stop you from volunteering into servitude. Well, what are the only two lawful and legal places in the constitution which allows servitude or slavery? If you wanna put it more bluntly. It's voluntary.
Well, the thirteenth amendment and that one. So it's voluntary that you've got to do something and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, here's your two questions. Well, hey. Are you a citizen of The United States? Oh, yeah. I'm gonna check it. Yes. Are you a resident? Oh, I live right over there. Just painted my house last summer. Ain't it pretty? Yes. And you signed something. Now you volunteered in all that. You being a fourteenth amendment person, you're under their control. You go, I never entered any any contract with the federal government. Well, you didn't enter into it. They entered you with fraud, but you endorsed it and you agreed with it and you signed something.
Every time they ever asked you, your whole damn adult life, those two questions, I guarantee you every one of you said yes to both of them and you signed your name to it. You gave them their power. Take it away. Take it away. It's real simple. And Tony's on the other day. So what about when they come and kick your door in? Tony, man, they don't kick your door in if they don't have authority over you. You and you didn't know these differences, so you see that and you think they're gonna do that to everybody, and they're just not.
That's our experience. I've got fourteen years of experience with the public of teaching people these things and not having their door kicked in. In fact, we've had sheriff's departments down in Florida, just about where you are, come to the house and have the occupant show them the affidavit, and they leave. They didn't kick the door down. They left because we do everything up front the correct way, and they've already been put on notice of our status change. And so now they've been put on legal notice. That's due process. You've done it correctly. You did it with the secretary of state. You've gone back and weaponized your position with your local state and area, and now they've been put on notice. You say it's a piece of paper? It is, but it's a damned important concept. Because if they think that's just a piece of paper and come kick your door in after they've been put on notice, guess what happens?
They just lost their cloak of immunity and became private citizens, exercising unlawful things against you, and the state cannot defend them. The county can't defend them, and you can go sue them personally for everything they've got. So there's your check and balance right there. Now we've got that in process right now with Joe Lustica up in his town in New Jersey where some cops started screwing with him because he didn't like him, and he didn't have a tag on his car. And they went through this whole series of total crap that I won't belabor you with at this stage. And Joe, being an excellent researcher and and law guy, went in and went back to the origins of the city and the things that they agreed to when they incorporated the city and all those things, and he went back and proved that they had not been adhering to them. And he not only filed a key cam suit with the city of New Jersey that he's in. He also sent it to the state attorney general and the governor of the state.
And in short order, the court came back to him and said, listen. We're gonna drop all these charges against you, but we gotta love we need to tail this out. I got a little discovery we gotta take care of, and then we'll just close the case and everything's done. He was about to take over this city. He was about to take over the city, Tony. So please tell me this paperwork doesn't work because I know it does. What, Paul?
[01:51:44] Unknown:
The cop won't even look him in the eye now.
[01:51:47] Unknown:
Nope. And I hope Joe goes after the judge. Finally, judges, he's in there, questioning jurisdiction. And the judge is squirming like a worm in hot ashes. And he's sitting there and he finally goes, do you buy gasoline? And Joe goes, yeah. Yeah. I've got jurisdiction. And that's how they went on. Well, mister Judge has got his little ass up. It it it being personally responsible now too along with this cop, along with the prosecutor that allowed them to prosecute this case all the way up to the levels it went to. All those people, they're now personally liable.
And Joe is that case isn't closed up yet. Probably about right now, it should be. But I hope Joe goes after them hook, line, and sinker. Because what we need is a scalp on our belt from somebody like this judge and this cop and this prosecutor. When anybody else tries this damn crap around the country, you're gonna point them to that and go, do you want that to happen to you? Do you? So please don't tell me this doesn't work until you've really immersed yourself in the information. Man, it works. K? And it's not just a piece of paper. It's your declaration under two hundred and fifty plus years of law as to what you are, and they can't override that without being open tyrants.
They'll never be open tyrants unless they've got control of the country like they did in Soviet Russia. Okay. They'll be open tyrants then, but they won't be before that. Yes, Paul.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
I think what we've got going on here is throughout the course of time, particularly in the patriot movement, everybody's been looking for that for that that key, looking for, the root cause behind it and have been throwing paperwork and documentation at the powers that be trying to convince them that they have no authority over a person, but they're still begging. They're still asking permission to be free. The difference with us is we're not asking for permission. We're declaring a fact. They don't have jurisdiction over us, period.
[01:54:23] Unknown:
They they just can't deny it. Now you get some squirrelly cases. We got one case. I'm sorry to say it. It just it shocks me. Comes out of Alabama by a female magistrate who probably doesn't know her behind from a hole in the dirt, who when Joe or Mike Nail comes up to her in on a speeding ticket and hands her the affidavit, and she'd already submitted it and given notice. And this female magistrate says, well, I I I don't recognize your affidavit. Excuse me? Female? Ma'am? What which law school did you graduate from? Woodrow Wilson correspondence school?
You just overturned two hundred and fifty years or more of established legal and lawful precedent, and you're gonna sit there like that, you bitch. Excuse me. But
[01:55:19] Unknown:
but, Raj, that is not a court of law. It's not a court of record. It's an administrative
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process. It doesn't matter. She's did everything right. She's got to admire she's got to recognize that. And she's the one that ought to be impeached. Okay? And then and then Mike, bless his heart, he he's a guy that works in in a in a lumber, company there. And and so he goes out and tries to appeal it well because he's a layman. He, tries to attach another incident to it, barely gets it in under the wire. So now the appellate court says, nope. Sorry. You missed your twenty days. Well, Michael goes on and further investigates it. He goes out and tries to talk to a couple of lawyers about what we do here. Hell, they don't understand it. They can't think outside the box. And so then he can't do he can't appeal it to the Supreme Court himself. It's expensive.
You gotta know what you're doing. And he doesn't have the money to do that because she's garnishing all his damn money and put him on a payment plan. And now the Alabama tax authorities are after him. All that because a magistrate judge doesn't know her butt from a hole in the ground about law. And she wants to get up there and show you how powerful she is over you.
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I would bet you that she or somebody that she knows
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is who sicced the state tax authority on it. Could have been. Could have been. I don't know any of I just know it's ugly, and that's the only case that's happened like that in fourteen years to my knowledge. Joe Lustica is exactly the opposite, where he almost got the city back. And they freaked out when that happened. K? So anyway, well, there's our day, and I hope you got something out of it that you didn't know before. And, I hope it suits you, and go take a short weekend. And, we'll be back Monday with John Kasarab. And, he would be Scotty, you wanna know about your wand, call back Monday when John's here. He's the guy that could probably answer that for you.
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Okay? Yeah. I'll I'll try.
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Okay. Otherwise, than that, I'm gonna go enjoy what is a beautiful day in Ecuador this morning and probably grab a little lunch and, watch a bunch of basketball this evening. So, anyway, I don't know what you're gonna do, but I hope you do it safely. And I hope you got something out of our show. And, you as you know, as I tell you often, I love each and every one of you. You don't understand what I've gone through to find you. Hey. K? So, anyway, we're a big gather hands and sing Kumbaya, and we'll regather on Monday and see if we can solve the problems of the world, Paul.
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Alright. Thank you, brother.
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My age. We have, buddy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sorry, Mark wasn't with us today. I'm a have to follow-up and see what's going on with him. Boom. That's it. Okay. Now does anybody have any questions for me? Well, there's all kinds of hands up there. I got one. Okay. Yeah. I told you.
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So we're muted through the whole thing, so what do you expect?
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Well, I'm glad Not through the whole thing. This last half hour, it was open.
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Just Well, I can't tell if I did it or not, so I'm a liar.
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Okay. What you've been doing is already I
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wanted to ask you as a national, do you think when we're talking about our state, we should say the state of or California state?
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Oh, I think you probably use the latter if you wanna be really accurate.
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So California state.
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Yeah. I don't know that it makes any difference. There are probably laws. I mean, you guys have found laws in California written for state citizens. I know Richard McDonald had. You get a letter back from your attorney general saying we always, recognize our private citizens or something to that effect. So I I either one would do. If you wanna be technical, I'd say the latter.
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Roger, Bruce.
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Bruce?
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You're a Californian. That's the smallest state. Like, I'm a New Yorker.
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Okay. Thank you, Scotty. What you got, Bruce?
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South Carolina. Just that. What did I do? South Carolina. That's what the Confederates did. South Carolina.
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And you are a South Carolinian.
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Boy, is he.
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Yes. Okay. I'm a South Carolina. Else?
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Alright. Now has anybody else got anything for me before I Roger. Yes.
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Yeah. This is Michael. Minnesota.
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Oh, hey, Michael. How you doing? You get a little bit out of the show?
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Yes? Minnesota. Did? Yeah. Good show this morning. I have a few more questions regarding the IRS. What would you do? Continue to file each year with a ten forty n r or stop filing altogether? I've stopped filing altogether. I don't know anything. Stop. I've got eight After noticing them, after
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Okay. After notice them, that's all you need to do. This is who So they're gonna continue
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they're gonna continue sending, non filing notices in the mail letters. Right?
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You just What I would do stick your affidavit. Okay. What I would do every time is I would answer those if that's that confirmatory writing letter. I would address it by answering them and saying, again, here's a copy of my affidavit and the date it was sent in and the people the date you were notified. And I'd leave it right there. Because every time you answer that way, that affidavit goes into your administrative file again. And if they ever wanna come after you, you can go in and request those documents, and they can't keep them out of a court administrative or otherwise because they're already in a court of record, your administrative file.
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They're never gonna be Do you have any Well, you can Do you have any student so you have no students over the past ten years or so that went 14. Had to go that far. 14 had to go that far through a court.
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Not that I know of. Wow. And believe me, the first time anybody gets a freaking letter or something, who do you think they contact first, Michael?
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I know. I know. I know. I know. You've said it many times. Now my next question is state of state of Minnesota requires a ten forty included with the Minnesota revenue form. So if I don't file with it with the IRS, there's nothing to include. They they want, they want an IRS, they want the Minnesota form each year, even non residents are supposed to file every year. So how do I what do I do before I file it with Minnesota? Get a ten
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forty n r? I don't know. Again, a ten forty n r, put all zeros, attach that to your Minnesota state in the package with no zeros because they take what you owe. Even if I don't give one to the IRS?
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Even if the IRS doesn't get one?
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Michael, I don't know. I've never had anybody ask me these questions before. I'm getting I I would say, contact Mark, a, about it. But if you don't owe any federal, you don't owe any state, why don't you put Minnesota on notice that you file that? If you have any 871 or 877 b taxes on the federal level, you will be sure to include it and go through the Minnesota processes prescribed.
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Mhmm. I have another question. You know I'm a farmer. And you know that Yes. Do you know that farmers are heavily subsidized by The US
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with Well, that's a that's a problem for you. Are you?
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Yeah. Almost every farmer's got is subsidized with the government, whether it's crop insurance. Hell, even while Trump was president the first term and all that tariff war with China, the farmers were getting payments, during when corn and bean prices tanked and the tariffs were up with the trade war, farmers were getting payments to offset the low grain prices.
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Well, then you could say if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty and if you're getting subsidized by the federal government, you owe the tax on it. Again, please please contact Mark. He's much more up on this than I am. I hate the tax situation, and I personally have not filed a return since the early nineties. K?
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I got I got another subject. I put the, the police, county attorney, the Minnesota AG, all they're all on notice. Right? All the ones that you've said, hey. Yeah. You ought to notice them while I did it. K? Yep. Guess what? The sheriff, was it the deputy under the sheriff, and the county attorney of my county. Right? I noticed them by mail, then I also included a PDF attachment and emailed all of them, and they blocked my email. I can't even email them. What does that tell you?
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After I emailed them, they blocked Have they come and arrested you?
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No. No. But what what does that tell you that I can't even tell you that?
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Well, it tells me that the I put that they're probably ignorant of the fact, and you may wanna write them another letter and say, my email appears to be blocked. What is the reason for that action? Okay. Alright. What other what other Minnesota state citizens are have you blocked on their emails?
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Mhmm. Interesting.
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May I ask? Alright. So for all of you that say this is a piece of paper doesn't make any difference, I hope you're hearing this.
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This is Bruce.
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Yeah, Bruce.
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They recognize the affidavit that you sent them, and they don't wanna deal with it. They didn't know what it is. True.
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Yeah. But I you know, you might wanna continue to poke them a little bit. And I don't know about your subsidizing from the federal government. I it it falls under the mantra, I think, Michael, of if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty. But please confer with Mark on that, and don't just take my observations.
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Mhmm. But you recommend not even filing
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after putting them all on notice. Don't file. Don't Why why would you know, again, why would you file if you don't owe them anything? Alright. You know? And in your court That's a question. To either one of them, I would put those little sentences. I intend to pay each and every lawful constitutional tax that I ever owe. Something to that effect. Because see, you're disarming them right there. They've gotta put those correspondence in your in your administrative file. When you write them something and they send you something, it's gotta be in that file. So what you're doing is you're just packing your file with stuff like that.
Okay?
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Thank you.
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Yes. You're welcome, Michael.
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I have a question. Who who else? Paul, would you add a comment? Anybody else got anything for me? If I made freedom of speech, they're interfering with this freedom of speech. Now go for that. Why are you interfering with my freedom of speech?
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Okay. Anybody else got anything?
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I've got something for him. Now how is the firm set up? Is it set up as a sole proprietorship, or is it its own entity and you're an employee?
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Sole. It's all in my name. Okay.
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So if it's all in your name, then you need to talk to Mark and find out what of what impact the federal subsidies would have on you. And then make no other decisions on ten forty and ours or anything until you have that answer. You need that answer first. Yeah. You may have to put the farm in its own entity, either in an LLC or a trust, and then do it as a pass through. And then you as an employee would not be taxed on any of the income. But it it's that is way above our pay grade. The questions that you've got, you need to talk to Mark, and I would say probably also talk to John Kasarab because he has, experience with financial planning.
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Okay. I you might be thinking about putting that in a trust or or something. Yes, Larry.
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Yes. These forms called, whatever NRs that are filed with the state. Every state has their version, like the federal version of an NR. And though all of those forms from what I have seen, because I've I've looked at a lot of different states, and those are for nationals of other countries. They're not dealing with us, a national of The United States Of America. So when when Michael says you gotta you know, the rules the the state rules say you have to attach a federal return to the NR Minnesota NR return. That's talking about nationals of other countries who are working in the state of Minnesota.
That's not talking about us.
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There you go. Okay. I'm a go start my weekend. Y'all got my full efforts today,
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and I will see you on Monday. Have a great weekend, and, we'll see you then. I hope. Yes. Comments? Thank you, Roger. I have one more thing to add. I think Michael would benefit from that, two page document of case law. It's called US Citizens or Property. Yeah. US It's on the website. State citizens or not. He should get that because it it cites the, IRS cases as well as everything else.
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Yep. I'm just not sure of those subsidies, Michael. I'm sorry. I just hadn't dealt with people that were getting them before. So, anyway, I'm a go take a short weekend. You guys do the same. Thank you. I hope you got something out of today, and I'll see you on Monday with John. So, see y'all then.
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Ciao, Paul. See you. Also, the right to a petition for grievances to their block.
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Alrighty. Well, that's also, and we keep trying six days a week. We take a stab at it. This is the Saturday edition of that. And it is April, and I mistakenly thought it was May and got Cinco de Mayo ed on my mind this morning. But it's just a month a month ahead, so you're now, you're you're you're alerted. So here we go. Roger Sales Radio Ranch, Saturday edition. And I don't we got a very light compliment of, assistance today, don't we, Paul?
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Yes. Very light compliment. We've got radiosoapbox.com, euro folk radio Com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. Radio Soapbox dot com, of course, thanks to Paul, our buddy across the drink, who is with us, for the moment, but he may have to drop off and and then join us through Zoom later. I've I've got him hooked up through Microsoft Teams. Yes. I have crossed over to the dark side, left Skype, and went to Teams. Oh my god. I'm thinking that I won't be able to get the ick off with battery acid and a Brillo pad, but we'll see. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network. Pod home is up and happy. Everything is running swimmingly. Yikes. Our website is global or is thematrixdocs.com, where you can find the links to free conference call. Join us live on the show. We got room for about a thousand of you. Come on down pack a lunch. Stay the day. Hey, baby. It's Saturday morning. Most of them are probably still sleeping.
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I'm going to reach out to Todd, who is, Jeff Rents' compliment of you. And, because he was he was bitching. When I was on there, he said, man, I've got, like, 6,000 phone numbers in Skype, and I wanna find you as you can imagine, I'll find out what the heck they, are planning on doing, and I'll let you know. So somebody's gonna come up with a solution for all this. How do you like it so far, Paul? Are you orienting towards tools?
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I've had I've had Teams loaded for about twelve hours now. Wow. Uh-huh. I did have to reboot my computer for it to work. Okay. And, and I have virtually nothing running on my workstation, which is probably why Teams is functioning. I have no idea if it's gonna be better or worse than Skype. I don't think anything can be worse than Skype because I think the problem with Skype is because they started out with something they bought, and then the Microsoft developers, they just started adding modules to it and then changing things. So they all so they had the overhead and the baggage from so many different versions where Teams is pretty much something new. They were able to build the core with, hopefully, something more intelligent and more efficient.
So that's what I'm hoping.
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Okay. Well, I'll I'll query the case. Well, I'll query as we go get into it because that's a decision some of us are gonna have to make. And, I I mean, we'll we'll find out. Okay. Anyway, it's Saturday edition here on the fifth. It was promised. I hope we got a nice compliment of folks out there. Because of the timing of the year, I generally don't do this presentation, but about now once a year. And and, of course, the way things are going, we may not be doing it at all here in a year or two, because there may not be an individuals representing Satan around. Maybe.
I'm kind of in one way, I'm, some unbelievable for me to think that I would be that I would be sad about the IRS leaving our lives. But, but, hell, they're my best recruiter, for folks like you out there in the audience and, your friends that have gotten turned on to this. Anyway, we'll see where it goes. I don't know how that's gonna open up. I keep thinking, how are they going to? And, of course, we don't have any ideas. We switch over to a tariff based system and that, making up for generating the are they gonna have a an opening of that the nationals don't have to or is there gonna be something left for nationals in that scene? So I don't know, you know, of course.
But, but it could be very interesting. So we'll see as we go forward. I'll tell you one thing. Trump gets rid of the IRS. He'll go down as the greatest president in the history of the country, period. Just from that right there, I would imagine. The hated and dreaded IRS and, what you're gonna find out today oh, okay. Go ahead, Paul. It's
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possible that he may go down as the greatest president ever unless he winds up replacing the IRS with something infinitely more evil. Well, I don't I don't know how that's changed.
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Well, we do in a sense. We've got some history here that we know about tariffs and mentioned it a couple of times. You know, we use tariffs from the eighteen seventies up till they passed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, and then the system was beginning to be set to switch to the tax system. K? Instead of tariff paying the taxes, and I've told the story. It I wonder how many people remember a book that was out, gosh, twenty five years ago called Goodbye April 15. It was written by a guy under the moniker of Boston Tea Party. I met him. I know his real name, and I met him at one of the expos. Really nice guy.
And, in that book, he had a a a cartoon, a political cartoon from the eighteen seventies. And it was a picture of the senate drawn hand drawn, the senate well. And down in the well, it was full of alligators. And the the the point was that they were making so much money that they thought it was gonna corrupt the senate, Paul. So there you go. Okay? So, no, it's viable. There's history here. And so we'll see as it go forward. It it's a wonderful thing, and it may be that, it is, well, gets a lot of these peoples in their clutches out from our lives. And mainly, if it goes the way I anticipate it and the way it's laid out, there's not gonna be an IRS, internal revenue, system, service. There's gonna be an external revenue service.
So send them bastards offshore. Okay? So, anyway, those are the things that are ahead of us, and and and it may negate the this system that we're gonna cover today, as evil as it is, as embedded as it's been in our lives for decades, ninety something years, it, it's bears knowing about it because it really, again, exposes our enemy. So okay. Go ahead. Comment.
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Okay. Now let me play devil's advocate here. And, and I try to be a glass half full guy. I really do. I really do. But, so what we can expect with the tariffs is the tariffs are going to be applied to imports as well as exports. But, the widgets that come over from China are gonna have a tariff on them. Well, not the widgets, but the but the bigger the bigger ticket items. But for for for an example, let's say something comes in from China and there's a tariff on it, a 50% tariff on it. The person the the, distributor that imports that, the importer, they're gonna have to pass that cost on to the next person down the line, which will eventually be the consumer.
Now it over time, it will work out because import and export tariffs will eventually balance. But when in history has a temporary increase in pricing or a temporary increase in taxation ever led to an eventual decrease? No. It it it goes Oh, yeah. If something goes up 10 or 20%, it tends to stay there. It may come back down five.
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Paul, with the ends, it's not the pricing. That's the incentive here or the endgame. It's to get the factories that are making those units to move to The US and produce internally so they can avoid the taxes, and that's already happening. K? So there's no debate here. It's already happening. Ford, came out yesterday. They've moved some of their, factories overseas. Right? And Ford came out yesterday, and for those cars that are now manufactured overseas that are brought back in and have to bear this tariff, anybody that goes to Ford and buys a Ford car gets their employee pricing.
So it's already happening, man. The trillions of dollars have already been pledged by people like Apple and these huge chipmakers to to start these factories in The US. So it's already happening. There there really isn't any debate here. K? And it's gonna increase because I think and all Trump did look. All he did was reciprocal. He said, if these countries are charging us something, we're gonna reciprocate. And he didn't even reciprocate at the full amount. He started out below the full amount and gave them that kind of a grace period. I I think it's a brilliant move, and I think we're gonna see it be very positive. One of the things is probably gonna go away is this tax system that I hope I can get around to talking about here. K? Correct. Okay. I don't wanna get in discussion on tariffs, please, to heat up our time. Go ahead, Joe.
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Well, I think it was Toyota that I heard on the news this early this morning is committed to building a new steel mill Yep. Just for auto production.
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Absolutely. Got, all those plants are in there. More coming and all that industry that these guys moved out of here with their Michael Milken junk bonds thirty years ago, are are many of them are gonna be moving back. And what's wrong with the reciprocal tariff? And I agree with Trump a %. These people have been charging these things, and we've had this World Trade Organization free trade crap, and we can't charge them tariffs. Well, all he does is if you're charging us, we're gonna charge you the same amount, which equals out at at net zero. And they're bitching about that? You know how much Paul, do you know the percentage that Japan, our buddy Japan, has been charging us on rice imports?
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Paul?
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Paul doesn't have an a guess? Not even a WAG? I'll give you the set the figure. Japan has been charging a 700% tariff on rice. 700%. Okay? So now, okay, you've been charged in stat. Well, we're gonna charge you 700% on stuff. And they're a friend of ours. It's like Trump said, he was friend or foe. And in many instances, the friends are the ones that are sticking it real far up our barracks bag there. K? So, anyway, let's get on to what the, schedule thing was. There's people, I think, that may be here that were told we're gonna talk about the tax system, and we haven't even touched on it yet. So let's get into it. This is John and Glenn's work. I'll be first to tell you, and as many of you have heard that their specialty was taxes. This is the accumulation of their work. It's probably a well, it's a description of the tax system that very few people on in the world understand, especially on our side.
And so that was the gift that they gave us. And, of course, after John died and Glenn got aggravated and all include that part of the story today if I can remember too. And they just turned everything over to me. Okay? So, anyway, that's, where we'll start. In the story, I think I'd like to start not with them but with me. And, that would be the very first piece of definitive information I ever stumbled on. I had been to Phil Marsh meeting. Some of you old timers remember who Phil Marsh was. Picked up some I was poor as a church mouse back then, generally. I didn't have a lot of expendable cash and picked up some all the free stuff he had to offer there. And I, spit out enough cash to buy his book, which I devoured.
And so, in in that, reading of that, that was my first exposure. And so, after that, we didn't have an Internet. This is in 1992, probably August of nineteen ninety two. And, I went down to the only resource I had available at the time, which was the Cobb County Library. I was living in Cobb County, Georgia on the Northwest Suburbs there. And, so I popped down to Downtown Marietta. So, a small little library, a lot of windows overlooking a really, really, picturesque Southern cemetery there from the civil war with a lot of, people that never should have died that are interned there.
Anyway, I went to the, reference part of the library, and I was looking through there. And I already because I'd read Phil Marsh's book, I already knew a little bit. And so I knew about the Federal Reserve already, and and I I went in and started looking for things in the reference section that might dovetail with that. Well, I found I remember it was red. I found a red book that said it's a collection of of, historical legal documents. That's pretty interesting. I said, well, I'll go and look around 2019, '15, and '13, around in there.
And so I did, and this is the document that popped up. You can go look at it on the Internet if you want to. It's the search term would be Woodrow Wilson repudiation of dollar diplomacy. Woodrow Wilson repudiation of dollar diplomacy. It's a very short document. You might wanna by the way, I hope some of you may wanna have a pencil and paper and take notes on some of this stuff. You go look at it later instead of missing what we're talking about here. Anyway, that was a very interesting thing. It must have been very early in Woodrow Wilson's, presidency. They didn't really have their hooks into him yet.
And, as the document tells you, it says, well, we were approached by a consortium. That's a nice word. A consortium of bankers. And, they wanted us to cosign this loan to China, so that they could help build railroads. This is around the turn of last century when the Rothschilds were building railroads all over the world in countries and and putting up their resources as collateral. So, anyway, it goes on and and talks about it. Just sell it's only a couple of paragraphs, really. I mean, there's only one paragraph that's really key that I'm getting at here. And it just gives the backstory. We're gonna loan, China a hundred million dollars here, for the, railroads so that they can build these railroads. And, we were looking for you to to cosign it. What do they want a cosigner for? Well, they want the muscle.
They want the muscle for when the, everything isn't paid back that they can send the military in there and put the pressure on them. And that's what they were asking Wilson to do, and Wilson said no. And then in that document, tax system that's going to be foisted upon the Chinese people. And and, boy, if this isn't accurate language, any of you that really messed with IRS should really appreciate this. Is Mark with us today? I hope he is. He's usually here on Saturdays. Anyway, said, the, the tax system that is projected is burdensome and antiquated.
Burdensome and antiquated. Doesn't that perfectly describe the tax system and title 26? Burdensome and antiquated. But here's the kicker right here. And administered by foreign agents. Administered by foreign agents. So if you've heard that the IRS is not part of the government, you'd you're you've heard correctly. K? They're not. They're pseudo, and they're under the department secretary of the treasury. They're at treasury. He controls all the IRS functions from an overhead. And, that position, secretary of the Treasury, of course, as we've discussed, was never there before the bankruptcy on March the ninth of nineteen thirty three. And, it says right there in Black's Law Dictionary, if you go look at bank holiday of nineteen thirty three, and it says the banks closed for five days, and they reopened under regulations by the secretary of the treasury.
Well, there wasn't a secretary of the treasury. There was a treasurer of the nine United States, but there wasn't a secretary of the treasury with all this power. And, there weren't any regulations because we never had administrative procedures before the bankruptcy. That's when the whole thing changed because now they had serfs. They didn't have serfs. They had freemen before that. And so there there it is and everything really that happened. And, that little document is quite revealing. In fact, the, I saw a gal that runs the bond, there's a big bond, I don't wanna a company, I guess, some sort of corporate structure, and they handle bond bonds and debt from all over the world. I heard saw her twice, on Epic Times stuff.
And, she said, well, I went and met with president Trump, and he knows this is the situation. Now what happened there, just to give you a short insight, is when, the Chinese, were given Hong Kong back by the Brits and that treaty well, when they signed that treaty, they paid off all the British bondholders on this loan to the Chinese that's referenced in this Woodrow Wilson document. Evidently, it was part of their deal, but they didn't pay off the Americans. There's about 20,000 bondholders in The United States that have never been paid a penny. Of course, China hates The US, and they're never gonna get paid a penny. I'm pretty sure.
So, she said, I've talked to president Trump about this, and the the 20,000 bondholders in The US that have never been paid a penny from that, that well, this was a couple years ago during COVID. It was worth 1,700,000,000,000.0 at that point. It had compounded. You wanna know about compound interest? There it is right there from nothing to 1,700,000,000,000.0 in a little over a hundred years. And, so here's what could happen if Trump really wants to be shrewd. And she said, I've been in his office and told him about this, that lady that ran this bond. She's an attorney, ran this bond thing. She said, we trade debts every day. K? That, Trump could go in, buy those bonds for a nickel or a dime on the dollar. Those people are never gonna see a penny out of them.
And go back and feed the Chinese bonds back to the Chinese as payments for our debt, and we'd still have some of their bonds left over. Back then when these numbers were more accurate before the interest has gone up, I believe we owed China One Point Two Billion trillion, and we had 1,700,000,000,000.0 in their defaulted bonds. So I've never heard it did any discussion about it, but it was real freaky because I was very familiar with this document. And then a couple years ago to see it brought up again in that context in this big political picture here. So it's kinda interesting. You may wanna go back and read it. Taxes are quite interesting. Most people, I find, don't know anything about them per se.
There's many there's two different varieties, direct and indirect. A direct tax is called a capitation tax. Capitation because it's on your head and it's on your body. And the other is an indirect tax, and that's called an that's called an excise tax. So you've got direct taxes, capitation, and excise taxes, indirect taxes. In the constitution, the founders put checks and balances in there in this tax system. Because supposedly, any direct tax, capitation tax or on your body tax, has to be apportioned by Congress. What does that mean?
That means that in those days, they wanted to buy this was one of the reasons the census was formed, by the way, was if there was a capitation tax passed by Congress, and capitation meaning everybody had to pay the same amount. And that's what the portion thing is for. Because there's a lot fewer people in, say, Rhode Island and Connecticut than there are in Pennsylvania or New York. But yet if there's a capitation tax levied by Congress, everybody in all the states pays the same amount, and that's a check and balance. And here's why.
If you're going along and we, you know, they had a pass, a direct tax, and it was, $5. And you go, well, we hadn't had to pay one of these in a while, but, $5 isn't too bad. And so they fork it up and pony it over to DC. Well, then the next year or two, we get caught in some war over the damn desert or over in Europe or some crap. And now they've gotta come in with a capitation tax, and it's not $5. It's $5,000. And everybody simultaneously in the country stands up and says, what the hell are you guys doing up there? So it's a check and a balance that was bit built into the system by the framers.
That's really important. And I don't know that I've ever heard anybody but John talk about that, quite frankly. So those are direct taxes. They have to be apportioned. Everybody has to pay the same. On the other side are excise taxes. They're indirect taxes. And what their requirement is, they have to be uniform. So unless you use federal gas tax. Okay? So even if you're down in Houston next to one of the refiners, and you've got federal tax and state tax probably too built into that gallon of gas you just bought. Well, because it's close to the refinery, you don't have a lot of transportation costs and all the other thing as would someone, let's say, in the interior of Alaska.
Well, the price is gonna be a lot higher, but the percentages of those taxes out of the cost of a gallon of gas will be the same. It'll be 20% in Texas, and it'll be 20% in Alaska. Uniform. And, excise taxes are often called indirect taxes. And that's what our, our our forefathers and these guys that were putting this new plan in had to get around. They had to get around all of that. And, boy, they, they've they've done it. You know? They did it real slick with the, with the, the way this whole thing has progressed. So, that basically are some of the background on taxes. Now if you like taxes, and there are people that really do, it's an interesting subject. It's it's it's really guided the world for a long time in this taxation issue. It's been used maliciously and offensively by our enemies, of course.
And you've heard all the sayings, death and taxes and etcetera, etcetera. Well, they wanted to bring this in. And, actually, what they did with this system was supplant the tariff system that we were discussing there at the head of the show. They didn't want all the other countries paying the tariffs and paying the any debt that they had, which they didn't have very much. They wanted this tax system brought in where you're they don't have to put money out because now in the new system, you're the property, and all they do is forward and collateralize your labor and then come back and make you pay that. And it's a direct tax, but it's not apportioned, and it can go all over the place. And so they use it very offensively as not only as a way to pay the bondholders, but as a way to penalize their enemies.
If they've got a a a competing company over there on the other side of the river, and they're gonna come in and lower all those EPA regulations and everything on their competitors, and their, company is right across the river is gonna dump stuff in the river, and they'll never even lift a finger towards them. So they use it economically and politically as well as to pay them the debt and put you under the yoke of that responsibility where they can get their thumb on you. So that's what that was all about. If you'd like to, find out more about taxes and do a little extracurricular activity, there is a, I'm sure he's probably no longer with us. He was an American that moved to Canada named Charles Adams, and he wrote a a very interesting book back in the it was published in the nineties. I saw him on one night. I'm sitting at home flipping around. There's nothing on TV, and I'm flipping through the channels.
And they're on on, space what? Space trash? C Span was, that they had a program probably still do called bookends where they have different authors come on and talk about their book. Well, I was watching, and here comes this guy, Charles Adams, with his book that's just recently published called The Effect of Taxation on the Rise and Fall of Civilization, something to that effect. You can find him and his work over at Lou Rockwell, l e w, rockwell dot com. Just put Charles Adams in. I believe there's a audio interview there about an hour long on his book. And this, well, it's pretty damn interesting topic on going through the history of civilizations all the way back to Egypt and showing you how the situation built up and how the taxing, policy had destroyed the country. And he goes through every civilization from Egypt up to us. And it's if you care about taxes or wanna know about any of that stuff, it's pretty darn interesting, and it's extremely thorough.
Okay? So Charles Adams, and you can go access his, his work. So that was something I stumbled on in the nineties, which was, quite interesting. And I wanted to give you all the information so you can access it. But, here's here's what happened with this information that I'm about to present to you. John, you know, I keep telling you about the sacrifices that have been made to get us here, and this is one of them. I don't talk about it too much. Forget about it, really. But John was in a group of Patriot guys out there in Denver, and I know one of the members of the group was John Nelson, who's a another Patriot researcher of some renowned. He hadn't had much of a profile in a number of years because, well, supposedly, they had a contract out on him.
He lived in, probably still does Durango, Colorado. Although Colorado's gotten so funky, he might have moved out. Anyway, he was in, John Benson was in that group there, and he had become estranged from his wife and children as many patriots have over this issue over the years, unfortunately. And, so he was right in a lot of the heavy part of his research years ago. And, one of the guys in the group owned a carpet company that had a warehouse in back. And so John got a mattress and threw it on the concrete in the warehouse, and for sixteen months, lived in that warehouse in Colorado and Denver area and, did nothing but mostly read, court cases, supreme court cases, with eyesight so bad he had to use a magnifying glass about as thick as a Coke bottle.
And that's what John did for sixteen months. I wonder if any of you would do something like that that dedicated and that sacrificial. But, anyway, it was in that time that he stumbled on a really important court case that, leads up to everything we're gonna talk about because it's the one that tells the story. And the name of the case, the style, is Murray's lessee Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. I don't know the site. Sorry. You can go look it up. It's all over the web. Still an active case. I mean, active from the standpoint of it's being cited, and it was in 1855.
Now this came up the other day on the show. It was what's called a jeopardy assessment. And it's one of the things where the IRS can go and grab stuff, where they look where it looks like it's admiralty law. So in this Murray's lessee case, and this goes back to tariffs, Paul. K? What had happened was the the head tax collector for the Port Of New York had been embezzling funds from that account and had embezzled even in those days over a million dollars in 1855. And, so tariffs work, buddy. There wasn't money there, he wouldn't have anything to embezzle. So the, Murray's lessee case had to do with a jeopardy assessment from a guy that run ran the port in New York City, embezzled over a million dollars, and he went out and bought land. And then whoever he bought land from had sold it. That's what this case was about, a jeopardy assessment when there's some danger of somebody leaving the country with something they've stolen, and they can come put a clamp on it. Okay? That's the only time they can do that without process.
Jeopardy assessments. There's a number of cases in the repertoire of tax cases. One other one is US v Bull, which you see, cited occasionally in tax stuff. So, anyway, John's reading this, case on Murray Murray's lessee, and they go, I kinda mentioned it yesterday. They say, well, you know, there's nothing in the constitution where we have any kind of direction or instruction on what to do on these types of cases. So the only thing we can do is to revert back to our country of origin and see how they handled it. And so in that dialogue, there were several footnotes at the bottom there as they included supreme court cases as references, and they referenced several writers who wrote on the XChecker. One was a guy named Chitty, c h I t t y, and another guy was a guy named Price. There was a couple of other ones. I just don't remember what their names were.
Well, what, John and Glenn did was they took those names, and back then, we didn't have the Internet. And they went to the only thing the closest thing they had was the interlibrary system. And, so you can go search all the libraries in the country. And so they went with all those authors and put them into the interlibrary search. And, Paul, you may or may not be surprised, they could only find two books in the entire United States of all that they requested. Oh, I'm not surprised. Now these guys pardon me?
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Of course not. One was at one was at Texas A and M, I believe, and the other was at the Library of Congress or something. And, so, they got into the rest of everything, and they started crossing swords with the IRS and got raided and all that stuff. So all that kinda got put on the back burner, okay, because of all the things they were spinning around. So anyway, it got to a point where they were being prosecuted by the federal government and, not for any of this stuff. It was they were just gonna get them off the street. Okay? Because they were out there running for Congress. John was running for senator against Orrin Hatch, and Glenn went out to run for the representative position against whoever. And they got out on the con campaign trail, and they started teaching all this tax stuff.
And that, I think, is what motivated the IRS to just get them off the street. So, anyway, all that was happening. Then they finally got access to some of the books as more and more books appeared on the Internet. It took them about five years, to, finally convict them and send them off to their respective prisons there. So they had some time at least to gather the books and read them and stuff and, at least absorb them to some extent. And then they got sent off to prison. Glenn was in Upper Minnesota, in, minimum security. And John, I I mentioned the other day, put him in a one of the only unairconditioned facilities in the entire BOP system in in the, of, when it's not Richmond, but it's I'll think of it a second. One of the one of the Virginia towns.
And, so Glenn, being very spiritual, wanted to get enrolled in a Petersburg, Virginia, wanted to enroll in a ministerial pros, program that the Bureau of Prisons offered. So he applied, and this is one of those things where whoever the bureaucrat was, I guess there were several facilities around the country that taught that, but the fat finger of fate intervened here. And whoever the bureaucrat was sent Glenn to the same Petersburg facility that John was in. And so they had read these books, and for those four years, they got to be together every afternoon for about four hours out in the exercise yard. Glen said, well, there's a big tree down at one end down there, some football field or some kind of exercise field. And he said, John was in a wheelchair, and I we limbed there under that tree and in that shade for hours a day.
They discuss what they remembered from reading these books. And that experience led to John's book called Taxation by Misrepresentation, The Truth About Taxes in Plain English. Now that book is available over on the book patch, and, you just put taxation without representation, it'll show up. It's not a page turner. It's condensing all this information that they learned and discussed and came to understand from these other authors that wrote books on the exchequer. The exchequer is the English variety of the Treasury. K? And so it's all that activity that had led us up to where we're gonna start here today, but that background was important for you to understand.
K? I think, anyway. So what happened that brought this tax system down upon us, quite frankly, was us, and we lied. We go into our common law courts, which is the only venue available at the time, and they would lie. They'd bring their buddies in, and they'd lie in open court. And the Jewish merchants that were bringing goods to England would get cheated out of their profits. And after a little bit of that, you can imagine with that bunch, it didn't take too long until they said they retaliated somehow. And they said, okay. Well, if you're gonna do that to us, we're just not gonna come back. Because, of course, England's got stuff they they have in abundance. Paul could probably list them off for us, but wool and oats and other different things that people in the world wanted and needed, but yet they didn't have lemons and limes and and and other things that tobacco spices that these merchants could come and exchange with them. Trade is the basis of all this stuff. Do y'all realize that's one of the only things there's a few. It's one of the only things that differentiates from us from other animals.
We trade. Okay? And that's the basis of this. And who's it say throughout the entire Bible? The merchants of the earth. Well, they're involved in trade. Wow. I wonder what laws they use. Man, I'll bet that's admiralty laws that those merchants are using. No. No, please. It's the Babylonian merchant code that they have been they have been immersed in for their whole lives in two thousand years. And they know every way you could twist it, turn it, weaponize it. All these laws have legitimate purposes, but they're just used and twisted and turned and weaponized against us. That's why they use the Babylonian merchant code.
Okay? Because they know it so well, and they can do this stuff to us. They come out and grab somebody's stuff, and they don't know anything about some of the things we're gonna talk about here today or or the Babylonian merchant code or law in general. And they go, well, that's gotta be Admiralty. They're just grabbing my stuff. Well, that's a prize, and there's no procedure. There's a bunch of procedure here. We're gonna talk about it today. Okay? So to alleviate the problem of the English not being able to get all the things that they needed in trade, there was a law passed over there in jolly old in December.
Twelve '80 '5. That's not too far after William the conqueror took over the country. Okay? October is December. Excuse me. And in English laws, they'll have 27 Elizabeth something something. And that's the way they identify like we would with statutes. That's the way they identify where the laws passed. So it was in the twenty seventh year of Queen Elizabeth, and it's this statute. So that was this statute called the statute de Mercantorius. May may Mercantorius, I believe. Merchants is what that means. Translation for merchants. The statute de mercantoribus.
And it was passed to try and alleviate this situation that had been brought about by Englishmen bringing in their pals and lying in court. And the Jews not getting their profits. And they got so disgusted, they said, well, we ain't coming back. Put that in your smoke and pipe it. So now they had to go in and try and figure out a way to alleviate that problem where we could get the merchants to the earth coming back so that we could exchange our goods and get rid of the things we've got in abundance and get the things that we don't have any of or a little of. K? And so what they did to turn that around in this statute, De Mercatoribus, again, I'll repeat it again if you wanna write it down. December was the year.
And and the statute took what they called and, identified as staple towns. And they would put this act in effect in those towns because staple towns are like staples, thing you things you need. So this was the trading centers of England, and I'm I probably don't know all of them. I know some of them. That's why I was happy Paul was with us. Certainly, London was one. Certainly, Southampton, down there close to where Paul lives, was one. Bristol was another one. I'm not sure where Bristol is. Manchester and Liverpool, no doubt, were were were ones.
And it was towns like that around England that the statute applied to. Now what they did was they made the mayor of every one of these identified staple towns called the mayor of the staple. So they gave him an extra title. He wasn't just the mayor. He was now the mayor of the staple. And so if there was ever a dispute in any one of these trading disputes, they brought the dispute to the mayor, and the mayor would put the case under seal. I'm gonna explain what that is in a minute. They would put the case under seal. And in this process, basically the same one we're dealing with today, the person that had the debt became the property of, here, the mayor of the staple.
And so the debt was on his body now. It wasn't just a debt. It was on his body. Okay? And anything that came into his hand, whether it was from rents, whether it was from sale of property, whether it was from inheritance, whether it was from regular business, any profits that were excess that came into his hands were grabbed by the mayor of the staple of the city, mayor of the may staple mayor, and then he would pay the creditor until the debt was paid off, and then the document was lifted. K? And so then he was free again. The debt was paid. Everything went on. Well, it not only cured the problem, it did such a wonderful job over a fairly short amount of time that, down the line, we had a king named Henry the eighth.
Pretty colorful king there in England, wanted to couldn't get a male heir, wanted to divorce and kill his wives that wouldn't give him a male child. He was fighting with the pope. He was fighting with the everybody to try and get money. And he looked over and saw how well the exchequer was handling this problem and how much they were making and said, well, I'm gonna take that system and come and apply it to my taxation collection. So it was Henry the eighth that took the system set up by the Statute des Mercantorum bus, incorporated it into the exchequer.
And that was the system that ran I'm just probably still running England, Paul. Okay? And this is the system they brought over to our country. So there's some of the background of it. Now what would happen after the exchequer got a hold of this system is they would go out into the countryside. I'm not sure if they announced it. There were people knew it was a regular occurrence or they went and bang flyers on a post or something. But they'd say the exchequer is gonna be in your area from this day to this day and at such and such a place. And what they would do is they'd get a table, big table, and they'd throw a checkered table cloth over it.
And that's how the treasury came to be named the exchequer, was because the table cloth that they would put over the tables when they were out doing their voluntary tax collection in England. Okay? So they would go out. And if you had taxes, you'd come talk to them, see how much you owed, however you want to work that out. It was in the people that didn't file that they had a problem because then they could use the same kind of techniques the IRS uses today. They could go they could go talk to Ferris's neighbor and go, how does that guy you have that big mansion over there with all those big cars and all the big parties he throws. He must be having some outside income. And so, they would go around and talk to your neighbors and all that kind of stuff, just like the IRS does, and they would take that information back to the exchequer.
And in the exchequer, there was an office that they would gather in, and then below it was the assessment office where they had the assessment roles. So they would come in and try and verify this that you hadn't filed and voluntarily, ponied up for, and they would try and come up with a tax that they thought you owed. And then they would take that and roll up the paper, and between their office and the office underneath them, which was called the office of the pipe, the office of the pipe. And they had a connecting pipe from that upper office down to the assessment office somewhat like a, you know, when you go to the bank and you're out there on the edge and you put that little tube in, sucks it up to the teller, something like that. Okay? Except it was gravity fed, obviously.
And so they would take the, amount that they had assessed, whoever it was, and they'd roll it up and shove it down this pipe to the assessment office below. And then because they can't come after you to pay something until you've been assessed. Okay? And so then they would take the amount, and they'd put it on the assessment roll. And then, boom, you were owed that. At that point, you owed that. Now here's where one of the places they changed it in our system. At that point, if you were in that situation, you could go in and contest this amount.
And so the way that you'd contest it is by having a trial, a common law trial with a jury of your peers, and they would have to verify the debt, and then it could be put on the collection and etcetera, etcetera. So here's the big difference. In our system, what do you do? They send you what's called in the patriot community a ninety day letter. Some of you have probably seen those. And they go, we got ninety days to either clear this up or you can, you can apply to tax court. Oh, boy. There's a fun trip for you. K? Because notice here, as they've changed the rules to protect the guilty, if you don't agree with it and pay it, then you can go to tax court. But if you go to tax court, you have to be the moving party.
You have to bring the action into tax court, which means now you have the burden of guilt. You've gotta prove that. And the only thing you can bring up in tax court is the amount. You can't bring up anything else about the tax system. The only thing is with the amount that they say you owe is the only thing you can argue. K. It's one of the ways they've made an important change here. So it was that system I'm trying to remember if there's anything else I forgot to tell you about it. It was that system that was brought over to our country in 1913 or the beginnings of it.
And, you can see from one of the one of the court cases, US v Wong Kim Ark, in the dissent there with chief justice Fuller and, John Harlan, the great dissenter, and they just lay it flat out that it's this feudal system. If this is done according to the rule, they're talking about the 10 the nineteen eighteen sixty five Civil Rights Act 1866, which turned into the fourteenth amendment. If the rule is dictating these, it was the relationship between a liege man and his liege lord. It was absolute and unbending and unchanged by time or space.
And it was brought into our country just as England was relieving itself of its inconveniences. That's right out of the descent in Wonkhiem Arc. K? So this is when they brought it over to us, and it was just being gotten rid of by England. Now at this point, is there anybody that's got a question or a comment? Oh, they can't unmute themselves. I'm sorry, Paul. I forgot. Okay. Well, let's just roll on then. K. And so, it was this system, and it all revolved around a document from the uniform commercial code. It's not admiralty law, folks. No no proximity of admiralty law.
So anybody that's told you that was relying on somebody else that told them and they believed it and passed it along and it's erroneous. K? So the document that was the centerpiece of all this activity that I just went over has a name. It's called a Jewish shetar, and that's spelled s h e t a r, a Jewish sheatar. Now at the time that this was being done, and I remember John making this comment, there was some English politician or somebody, and he said, this document goes back to time out of mind. So this document, this Jewish sheatar, went back to time out of mind even in the December because it was very ancient and evidently been used for a long time.
What is a Jewish sheatar? Well, a Jewish sheatar, if you go look under the uniform commercial code today, it's over in the under specialty contracts in the merchant code. And it says on this particular contract to fulfill the duties as a Jewish sheatar, and I'll give you the other names in a minute, to fulfill its duties and and application as a Jewish sheatar, it had two requirements. It had to have a recognizance a recognizance from the root word recognize, and it had to be signed under seal. A recognizance, it also has another thing called the defeasance in there, but the recognizance means, like defeat, the recognizance means that you in a somewhere in that document that you're gonna sign under seal, there is a paragraph which refers to laws outside of the document.
So for instance, another name for Jewish sheatar is a ten forty form. K? And in the ten forty form, the recognizance will be, I agree to abide by all the terms and conditions of title 26. Well, that's title 26 in the code and in the code of federal regulations. So in that document, you agree to abide by all of the terms and conditions in title 26. They also use this technique, a recognizance, in, especially in auto loans, but because the recognizance will be that you agree to abide by all of the codes in the state legislature as it applies to your payment on that on that agreement.
So in the state legislature, they decide, well, if they don't pay it on the sixty first day, you can go grab the car. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to get put on the docket. You don't have to get in front of a jury of your peers. You don't have to wait for a judgment. You don't have to wait for it to be filed before you can go exercise your remedy. The remedy is written into the contract, and it's spelled out in the well, let's say the official code of Georgia annotated. So you can go back to the official code of Georgia annotated and go through these payment, requirements in the state, and they'll say, well, if you didn't pay it within sixty days, you can go grab it.
And so, boy, on the fifth sixty first day, there's the the repossession team, the repo man, comes out with that long flat thing and boost your little lock on your door, and they get in and hotwire, and they're gone. And and you're screaming, Roger, Roger, Roger, they're taking my car. That really happened. Okay? And, and they don't have to tell you anything. And that's where I think that people get the idea they're in admiralty laws. They just come and grab stuff. But they don't realize that there's always process behind that. There's this. They've given you notices. They've done this. They've given you deadlines.
They've done all this stuff. That's process. There is none of that in admiralty law. K? Period. I accept the process in admiralty law as I drag down the flag of the country that I'm wanting you to think on my ship's part of. And right before I board you, I'm gonna throw up the Jolly Roger and let you know you've been had. That's the only process in Admiralty Law. K? So these are the principles here, the uniform commercial code that undergird our entire society, everyone on the world. It's all done on trade. That means finance. These are the these are the masters of both. They're the masters of money. They're the masters of merchant law. They're the masters of all this financial stuff. And those are things we don't have in our common law.
Okay? We don't have all these intricacies on what happens with finance and this, that, and the other. Somebody doesn't pay a contract and void. They they don't have all that stipulation. So, therefore, when we as societies get into these conditions where these things are brought forth, we don't have any way to cover it under common law generally. And so that's how partially we get these two bodies of law mixed, the law of the city and the law of the land. And and they're mixed in the first time they did it was in Rome, over a period of two hundred years, and it came from what's called the Juss, j u s, Juss Seville, J U S C I V I L E, and it changed it over two hundred years to the Juss Ginsum. And that's got a funny spelling but spelling, but it means the law of the foreigner. K? And let me see where where are we on time here.
Okay. We probably got enough time. Let me go into this because the same thing happened in our United States code. I was on the air here one day and said, oh, somebody get on your computer if you would out there and do find out where where we got the United States code when? Well, I think it was Sketch that came back and said, well, it started in the twenties. So The United States code, that centerpiece of our law that they love to use, wasn't even started until the nineteen twenties. Wow. Well, why is that? It's because they were setting up what was coming.
Now here's what happened in Rome. Rome and the Jeuseville, the first two hundred years of Rome, the, people lived under what's called the 12 tablets. And we don't know we've never found any of the tablets evidently, but we kinda know what was on them. And it was, you know, like, more or less a common law setup. It was a formal thing. You had to get a charge, come into a a somewhat of a common law court, face your accuser in front of other people, get a judgment, etcetera, etcetera. So it was kind of oriented in a common law way for the first two hundred years of Rome.
Then what happened was as Rome grew into an empire, they started getting out into the outreaches of the lands they'd conquered. Well, then the merchants of action was, man. It was the center of the empire. And so we get these foreign merchants that would come to Rome, and they are under the Babylonian merchant code. That's what they've been using. Okay? So that's what they bring with them is the Babylonian merchant code. And in the Babylonian merchant code, there's a thing, you know, we talk about law being rights, duties, and remedies. Okay? And so in the Babylonian merchant code, there's a particular way of dealing with remedies where it's got these elements in it where it takes you out of having to go through formal proceedings and the remedy is written into the contract.
Okay? So those are called self help remedies. Now if there's man, this is so important for you, especially for you new people. Self help remedies. If I ask you one of the some of the new folks about self help remedies, could you tell me about them? And they they wouldn't know. Probably. But if I said, for example, hey, William. Can you, one of our newer guys, him and Tony, could you guys tell me about self help remedies? And they go, not not I don't know that I've ever heard of those. But if I came back and said, hey, Tony and William, can you tell me about lien levy garnishment and seizure? There you go. Oh, yeah. We know about those. Okay. That's when they come grab your goodies. Right?
Well, that's a process. K? And what happens, it deals with this contract, this Jewish Shetar contract and this thing called a recognizance. And so if you don't perform what you're supposed to do with the contract, they come and grab the goods. It's built into the contract, and you agreed to it when you signed it. Just like your automobile contract, you agreed to pay those payments, so much principal, so much interest on this day of the month or up to this day of the month. And if you didn't play those, after sixty days, the car guy comes and grabs your car. Because if they had to go through that very formal jury, peers, indictment, all that stuff, well, you might be in Timbuktu with that car by the time it got out and they got access to it. So these things are not negative, but they're very positive. They're just being used negatively.
K? They've been weaponized. And it's been my thought for a long time. Just a second, Paul. It's been my thought for a long time that these are the beginning, appearances of tyranny is when they start bringing the UCC on you and start coming grabbing your stuff. And you, not understanding all this, automatically impute all the power into these guys. Well, they don't have the power. You gave it to them. You signed the document, and then you didn't fulfill it. So they came and grabbed it just as it's prescribed. It's totally a good remedy. Okay? But it's been misused. Yes, Paul.
[01:03:17] Unknown:
You know where else, you can find examples of, recognizance? No. The driver's license application and the motor vehicle registration where you agree Uh-huh. To abide by the motor vehicle code.
[01:03:36] Unknown:
Yep. Well, there's all kinds of these things out there. That doesn't necessarily make that a statute staple, though, because it's gotta be signed under seal. That's the other requirement. But I'm just setting you up on this recognizance thing and showing you what happened in Rome and how these situations conflagurate our laws. So in Rome, the attorney general was a guy named the the, praetor. And his you've heard of praetorian guards? Well, those were his private army, and and they ended up controlling who was put into the leadership positions of Rome eventually. But regardless, in those early days, the praetor was the attorney general.
Then Rome was smart enough to know that that position acquired a lot of power, and so they appointed a different praetor every year. And so the new incoming praetor would generally go back and recognize all of the previous praetor's work in a body of law, and they very rarely would make any real substantial changes. So what happened after the foreign merchants came to Rome and they brought with them their Babylonia merchant code and they brought with them these self help remedies? Well, the Romans being under the common law, if you will, or a more burdensome process, looked at these foreigners that were coming into their town and this easy way of remedy and this easy way of satisfying a fraudulent or somebody defaulting on a contract, and they started putting pressure on the praetor.
We want that. We want that. And over a period of two hundred years, their influence, along with the foreign merchants on Rome's, trade, the praetor brought the Babylonia merchant code and these self help remedies in and incorporated them with the 12 tablets. That is the Roman civil law referred to. Where does it mimic in us? In The United States code. Same damn thing. This is why in The United States code, you have positive and nonpositive law. Okay? Positive law being constitutional and nonpositive law being, well, for instance, title 26. I'm sure some of you may be surprised to know that title 26 was never passed by the senate or signed by the president, and it doesn't show up in the organic statutes at large.
It was brought in through the house because the house has exclusive jurisdiction over Washington, DC. That's the federal government. That's who was was bankrupt, the federal government. And, and and that's why title said '26 and the regulations were slipped into the the code without being passed by the senate and without being passed by assigned by the president. So it's only applicable to Washington DC. So let me ask you the the question again. Are you a resident? Mhmm. Are you a resident? Because now if you yes. You've agreed to being under the laws of Washington, DC, and that's how title 26 applies to you.
[01:06:47] Unknown:
Hey, Raj.
[01:06:49] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:06:50] Unknown:
Two things. We are in lecture mode, but if somebody has a question or a comment, you can raise your hand by dialing 941 if you're on the phone or by going to the reactions button and raising your hand there if you're connected by smartphone or computer. And, with respect to title 26, title title 26 was only passed by the house because the house has exclusive jurisdiction over Washington, DC.
[01:07:21] Unknown:
Correct. And that's the federal government, and they're the ones that are bankrupt. And because you said and answered the question, yes, I'm a resident, that means that you agreed to be under the laws of Washington DC. So guess what? It applies to you. Do you see how these shifty bastards work? They're real slick. Okay? So, yeah. If anybody's got any questions, this would probably be a good time to ask if you've got one. If not, I'll just roll on here. So, No hands up yet. Okay. So, we get the, the the Roman civil law, a combination of Babylonian and common law type principles.
Well, that's what happened in December. In December, they brought the Jewish Sheatar in England. Let me ask I wonder if Paul's with us. Paul, is are do they refer to these, instruments in England at all today? Statute staple bond or statute staple contract?
[01:08:25] Unknown:
I don't believe he's with us. No. He's not. He had to drop out of teams because he had a radio soapbox issue to deal with.
[01:08:34] Unknown:
Okay. Well, anyway, I'm sorry Paul isn't. But, but these were that that same Jewish sheatar as it was applied in England was called a statute staple bond or contract. So when the when there was a dispute in the staple towns, they would take the dispute to the mayor, and the mayor would issue one of these statute staple bonds and put it on the guy that owed the debt. And when he had satisfied the debt, it was lifted. In that interim, he was the property of England or the mayor of the city. K? And it that's how they get to the point where anything that comes into the debtor's hands is relieved to satisfy the debt.
They have to have a property right on you to do that. K? So a property right goes along with this document also. So in England, for all those years after December all the way up to whenever, it was referred to as a statute staple, bond, or contract. We refer to it as a ten forty form. Same document. Same instrument. Under seal, signed with a recognizance. You could write a ten forty out and send it to the IRS and say I owe you a trillion dollars. I will pay and satisfy the entire national debt. And if you don't sign it, they'll send it back to you. It's got to be signed under seal. What is seal?
Penalty of perjury. K? So there's the whole scope and the origin of how this tax law, this body of tax law applies to us. And I promise you, folks, it's the same tax law in every Rothschild central bank country of the world. Same thing. K? And so, so that's where we are. Now what happened with me was, as, I was doing this a while, the book came out and I got on with Al Attisk there for I guess, Al and I did shows for about a year and a half. I sure did enjoy it. And, so, in in that period of time, Al knew somebody that was an expert on IRS manuals.
And the IRS has these internal manuals. Some of you have probably seen them along the way, and they tell you everything they're doing internally with with what they call codes and push codes. K? And so, this guy was a master. I cannot remember his name. But anyway and now I had on my side, I had Glenn left who knew this entire old English process I would just describe to you. So we put those two together. And and boom, fireworks start happening. As he compared all the things they do internally with this process that I just described to you and all kinds of things came out of it for them, understanding. And so, you know, what's the Bible say? Above all, seek understanding.
And so, then they gone I think it was through, the other fellas' side. They had a case in Southern California, a doctor in San Diego, who had been charged with two charges of failure to file. And so they got a hold of the law firm, and, they explained the situation to them. And the law firm was open to using these ideas and bringing this information forward, which is not in you can't hardly find it in The US, Paul. K? So you wonder why judges and lawyers don't know anything about this stuff? So, they've the the law firm agreed to utilize the thing, and John Glenn wrote all the process. They didn't even have to write the process. He'd write it all.
He's brilliant. He's brilliant in that area. K? And, so they went through the trial, and the guy was convicted. And and failure to file, you gotta have a jury. K. This is preponderance of the evidence. And so because there's criminal stuff involved, criminal penalties. And so they, found the poor doctor guilty there, and they appealed it to the ninth circuit. And the ninth circuit agreed with their rulings, and and Glenn got so disgusted that he turned his back and walked away and and and doesn't wanna mess with this anymore. He's off doing other stuff Because it's what he told me. He said, Roger, not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it.
And so after that trial, however, and the appeal, whoever the attorney general was at that point, put a nationwide moratorium on push code o nine. You cannot go to any federal court in The United States and bring up push code o nine from the IRS. It is a moratorium on that subject, to my knowledge, still today. So what is and why is push code o nine so important? Now let's go from the old process to the new process. And this has something to do with more with people who did not file than people that did file, and they're gonna come and audit you. Because it's you non filers that they don't wanna get in there even though, apparently, the system is voluntary.
K? And so what they do is if you haven't filed, they will, send you we had somebody with one of those letters the other day on the show here, I think this past week. I said, oh, dear Paul. Dear Paul Beaner, we haven't received your tax returns for 2019 and 2020. If you've already sent those in, please disregard this message. However, if you haven't, we may contact you and ask you to bring in some of your books and records. Any of y'all ever seen one of those? I was very Any friends that did? You get have you ever gotten one of those, Paul? Well, no. You're probably a dudefull. Oh, yes.
[01:15:17] Unknown:
Oh, no. No. No. Actually, I did get one of those, and like an idiot, I did file.
[01:15:23] Unknown:
Okay. So here's what they're telling you. Again, this is speculation by John Benson. I've never found anything that he speculated about that what didn't didn't turn out to be true. K? So if you go back and look in that area where we found the Jewish sheatar in specialty contracts on the UCC. There there's another contract, and it's called a confirmatory writing. A confirmatory writing. And that is what they're using on us, and it's how these guys can manipulate the UCC is the, the letter is considered a confirmatory writing, at least that's what John thought. And if you go and look at the confirmatory writing, it says a letter but between merchants who are both apprised to know the contents of the writing.
And if you don't expressly deny the writing within ten days, then it's agreed you've accepted it. So it's a contract that you're supposed to know about that if you do not if you, like, throw it in the trash can like most of our Patriot friends do, well, in ten days, now you're locked into the front end of a voluntary system with a voluntary contract that you didn't understand. Pretty slick.
[01:16:55] Unknown:
Very slick. So And sneaky. So now
[01:16:58] Unknown:
oh, of course. Well, that's their MO. Now they start the process. And when you go up to, William forgot where the IRS is up to Williamsburg, West Virginia or someplace up there. Anyway, that's where the IRS computer is, and and the computer is programmed correctly. And so for it to operate and go through its process, there has to be a ten forty involved. That's why they did this confirmatory writing thing. And so when it gets to that point in the process and the computer stops, it can't go any further forward because there's not a ten forty fine filed. So that's when the IRS comes in, and they exercise something out of the manuals called push code o nine.
So the agent goes in, and they do push code o nine. And it stops the process and opens it up and allows a substitute for return or an SFR or a dummy return, as they're called in the Patriot Movement, it allows that agent to insert the dummy return that you never signed. But they've assessed you did because you didn't answer back, and you agreed with the contract on the front end. So now they've got the ten forty in with the numbers that the IRS agent wants to put on them, and then they unleash the computer. Now a ten forty has been filed. So just like the, office of the pipe, now it goes through the pipe over to assessment, and they assess whatever the numbers are, and then they start issuing deficiencies and everything else. And that, after they've sent you a number of those and stuff, is when they can start come grabbing your stuff, which appears to be admiralty law but is not. There's tons of process behind it. K?
So that is the important part of that. And as I said, I think I forgot to say this last time I did this lecture, that after this case in the ninth circuit in San Francisco, the Department of Justice put a national moratorium through the entire federal district court system, you cannot bring up push code o nine in any district court in The United States.
[01:19:30] Unknown:
Right.
[01:19:31] Unknown:
I think they think I think they take it pretty seriously, Paul, and I think we've got the Achilles heel right there. K. Yes. What's your comment or question, Paul?
[01:19:42] Unknown:
Okay. Richard has his hand up, and I'll unmute him in a moment. But I do think that Admiralty Law does exist in at least one place in this country, and that is in traffic court because there is no due process. All you have to do is show up and trust me. They kick your ass, and they take your stop. Well, I but but you signed the driver's license, so you agreed to voluntarily.
[01:20:09] Unknown:
So it's not admiralty law. So don't don't mingle and muddy the water here too much. We're trying to get these folks straight. Richard, did you have a question or comment?
[01:20:22] Unknown:
Come on. Oh, Richard. Well, his hand is up. I unmuted him. You got him all unmuted. Oh, Richard. Locally.
[01:20:33] Unknown:
Richard? Oh, Richard. Pots and pans banging around? Are you cooking breakfast? You hear me? Yeah. Barely. Barely.
[01:20:45] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought you had us all, on mute.
[01:20:53] Unknown:
You yeah. I unmuted you because you had your hand up.
[01:20:58] Unknown:
Okay. Yes. That push code 0 9 that you were talking about earlier?
[01:21:06] Unknown:
No. Yeah, sir.
[01:21:09] Unknown:
Okay. I did not I found out that H and R Block filed for me. And I think that's maybe what also started that, inquiry about my, not filing.
[01:21:33] Unknown:
Richard, H and R Block doesn't push code o nine. They're an outside company that does tax returns for people. They don't go in and do that. Sorry, sir. I think you I think you're a little off there. I
[01:21:47] Unknown:
well, no. What I'm saying, Roger, what I was what I was looking into, why the IRS is saying that I owe them this much money back in 2018. I went to H and R Block for them to do my taxes. When they told me that I owed the IRS, a certain amount of money, I immediately stopped what I was doing with H and R Block. I went down and took a local, I went down and took a local, loan. I made it into the bank fifteen minutes before they closed. And then the next day, I sent that check off, to the IRS, and I never went back to,
[01:22:34] Unknown:
Hold it. H and R. Hold it. You you told them to send that amount of money to the IRS. Did you have a ten forty form with it? No. I just screwed send them with a check. Richard. Richard, you screwed up. Go ahead. Try to snap again.
[01:22:52] Unknown:
Okay. And I never went back and filed. I never went back and, paid H and R Block because they told me that it was gonna cost me $300 for them to do my taxes to tell me that I had to pay the IRS, what was it? 1,700 and something dollars. Because I took the early withdrawal from my, Thrift Savings Plan. So I haven't, I'm starting to get all these letters for each of these co taxable years.
[01:23:28] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:23:29] Unknown:
Well, I don't know what happened there, but if you didn't if you send them a check through the bank without a ten forty form, you messed up with a capital f. Did they send the check back to you?
[01:23:40] Unknown:
No.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
Okay. They didn't. Well, you you screwed up, Richard.
[01:23:47] Unknown:
Okay. Sorry. Okay.
[01:23:49] Unknown:
Live and learn. Live and learn. What what I thought was kind of unusual is why did the, H and R Block send a ten forty to the IRS when I never
[01:24:02] Unknown:
Well, they it wouldn't have mattered if they did. Richard, it wouldn't have mattered if the H and R Block sent a ten forty. You didn't sign it. If it's unsigned, it means nothing. Right. And, yeah, that's what I told you. I don't know why this is. Richard, I I hardly understand you. You're, like, real garbled, and it sounds like you're in a kennel somewhere.
[01:24:26] Unknown:
Yes. Alright. I'll sign off then. Thanks for taking the call. Bye. Alright. Thank you, Richard. Go feed the puppies.
[01:24:35] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else got, while we're to pause here, anybody else got a comment or a question?
[01:24:41] Unknown:
No other hands up right now. No other hands up. Okay.
[01:24:45] Unknown:
Well, anyway, that's kind of the, the system right there and the way it works and the way that we know it works. And, of course, we refer back to '26 CFR. Now this is very interesting, Paul. It is a voluntary system. That's what the guy got in front of Congress. Now your ATF taxes, they're mandatory, but your IRS taxes are voluntary. That was in front of Congress, alright, years ago. So, here is where you go down to 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a, and and it says all an income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States and residents. Well, that sounds mandatory to me, doesn't it, to you?
[01:25:32] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:25:33] Unknown:
Well, I I don't understand how you get a voluntary tax system out of that. Okay. So there there's a little bit of confusion on my end, Steven. Okay. Well, let me finish. Okay. It's easy. I'm waiting. Okay.
[01:25:50] Unknown:
An inventory, an an income tax is owed by all citizens and residents where it's voluntary. Volunteering to be a citizen and identifying yourself as a resident, then it becomes mandatory. Well But your status as a citizen is voluntary.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
Okay. What about if the guy that's a citizen or resident doesn't file and they have to go in voluntarily, and they gotta go in and trick him with this confirmatory writing? And I don't know the answer to this quite frankly. I've toyed with it over the years a time or two. Anyway, that's one little inconsistency in there, but that appears to be a law to me. Okay? If you're one of those, you do this. Okay? So, anyway, that's kind of the tax system. And, of course, what we do is go in and get you to file this paperwork saying that you're a state citizen because they are still under the original coverage of the constitution, and you still have this, all all, direct taxes have to be, apportioned.
Well, that applies to you now, and that's why they can't apply the income tax to us. And then that little jurisdictional statement there as it goes on, it says, however, the, 08/1877 b taxes are owed by all nonresident alien individuals. Well, if you go back and look at those taxes, they're both constitutional taxes. So, anyway, it's a they have done a masterful job of setting this up. They've been working on making this a very difficult to, navigate, settle laws, the the the the eternal revenue service laws, you know, burdensome and antiquated is what Woodrow Wilson called them.
There was a senator in when they were writing that tax book, John and Glenn stumbled on this quote. It was from a senator in the forties named Barclay, very, very evidently highly respected. They were talking about running him as a vice presidential candidate. And, he he he resigned from the senate, and the whole senate wrote him a letter and cosigned it and asking him to come back, and he did. And, he was the head of at that point, the senate had a ways and means committee for some reason where all the money's cooked up. And so his statement was he was the head of the ways and means committee.
His statement was every year, we get together and the folks from Treasury come over, and we try and explain to them that we want to simplify and reduce the tax code.
[01:28:39] Unknown:
And every year And every year, it gets bigger.
[01:28:42] Unknown:
The folks from Treasury come back, and they deliver us something that only Solomon and all of his wise men could interpret. Antiquated and burdensome and confusing, meant to be that way so they can fleece your ass, turn you up by the ankles, and shake you out every year.
[01:29:08] Unknown:
And administered by foreign agents.
[01:29:10] Unknown:
Administered by foreign agents. So, that's why if you go around to the IRS, you'll find they're never in government buildings. They're always in they have to go rent all of their facilities around the country. So that's our buddies over there at the Internal Revenue Service. That's the tax system that they're using. It goes back to, according to that Englishman, time out of mind. The same document with different labels is included, a Jewish sheatar, a statute staple bond or contract, and a ten forty form. Now if you wanna validate this, you can go online. We used to have it over on the other website. We probably ought to get it on ours again, Paul.
There was a, a a very scholarly, article. It was written by a Jewess named Judith Shapiro, and it was published in the very prestigious Georgetown Law Review. And the title, the best I can remember it, is how the Jewish sheatar invaded the English common law. And it's, I don't know, fifteen, twenty pages. It's quite a scholarly tome. It's very accurate on its historical, facts, but miss Shapiro or missus Shapiro, the good Jewess, doesn't tell us in that article that a Jewish sheatar is also referred to as a ten forty form. Somehow, she forgot that.
If you wanna learn more of the explicit details on what we've covered just in an overview today, the how the English sheatar invaded the English common law, written by Judy Judith Shapiro. You can find it online. K? So if you wanna validate the things I've told you, it's all in there. Much more detail. So, now who who else can we talk to? I can't believe Mark hadn't been with us this week at all. You think he's hope he's not sick and a relapse. I hadn't heard from him. Anyway, it wasn't here Wednesday, and I I thought he'd be with us today. I think he knew we were gonna do this, and he wasn't familiar with a lot of this. So he'll probably get it on the replay or on the, archives.
Now if we can interrupt, we got about, I don't know, thirty minutes left. I don't I can't think of anything that I was gonna say that I haven't. So, if you've got questions or comments, I'd love to entertain them. So, Paul, go ahead and unmute everybody, and we can get into a free for all or wherever we're going here today. Here we go. Let the fuck kind of a weird all participants are needed, and they can unmute themselves. Yeah. It's been a weird week already. Well, there's a comment right there. Hey, Joe.
[01:32:16] Unknown:
Roger, I wanna thank you for your the history that you bring forth. It's unfortunate that younger people are not aware of these historical events and aspects, And I don't think that many realize the importance. They're listening, but they don't realize just how much gravity these things this history has on how we go forward.
[01:32:47] Unknown:
Yep. And I think Well, it is come I it is you're welcome, Joe, and it's my pleasure. I'm just tickled to be have the knowledge that I can put out there that hadn't been lost yet. Because, I mean, really, if it wasn't for John and Glenn, none of us would know any of this stuff. So, I I hope you people are gonna try and enforce on you and impress on you the sacrifices that have been made by John Benson, Glenn Amboard, and me over all these hundred plus years to be able to bring this information to you with accuracy and credibility. K? Because the these men spent the whole adult part of their lives along with me on investigating it and trying to put all these things together where we could have a remedy that worked, that was understandable, that is easily passed. In other words, here's here's the what I've been trying to do is to simplify this complex stuff as much as possible where I could get it down to a basic understanding.
Like, remember the Jim Crow laws? Yeah. Well, they tricked us all into being Jim Crow. Now that's pretty damn simple. Okay? And you need to understand some stuff to really understand it, but it's pretty damn simple on a description of what they've done here. And so, I'm I just, I'm so grateful to God for having me in the six months those guys were teaching, crossed paths with them. I mean, what are the chances of that thirty something years ago? K? And and and to have been the one person out of the whole shooting match, 1,200 students that took this further, everybody else dropped off.
And now I continue to doggedly pursue it, and look what we found. Look what we found. And that causes me often to go back and look at that situation and try and analyze it a bit. I'm an analytical type of person. And, so I I I I I look at it like, man, what if we wouldn't have known this? K? I I mean, what if my path wouldn't have crossed them in that six months If I wouldn't have been and I went over the statistics on this the other day with William and Tony. About 300,000,000 people in the country at that time, estimate. So in six months, twelve hundred out of 300,000,000 paid to go through this course.
And out of that 300,000,000 and that 1,200, I was the only one that took this further because they were all in there because the tax issue. I didn't have a tax problem till I met these guys. K? I had a curiosity. I'd always known that something was wrong, and that's what hooked me. And you see, I think they were being driven to it by heat at the back of their pants. And I was being sucked to it out of curiosity and a a a a dying a search for truth and understanding. And I think that's the difference right there, really. Okay. We have another hand up. Regardless of whatever that was, you better be damn grateful, a, that it happened. And damn grateful that I left the country back in 02/2007, decided to, and applied for a passport and found the key to the whole thing that I'd been looking for for fifteen years that I could never isolate because they changed the label on the object concept.
And that's what messed me up. K? And on that passport application, because of that letter from the secretary of state of the state of Florida telling me, no. I can't issue you a letter of citizenship for the state of Florida because the secretary of state has all authority over all matters concerning citizenship. And right underneath that was the warning box, which doesn't say you can attach the why. It's you can attach documents including affidavits. It doesn't tell you why. It just tells you because they've gotta put it in there. There you have a responsibility at law, and they do follow some these laws, folks.
They don't want that warning box in the passport application, But it's a general app it's a, information gathering request to the public. And because of Watergate and the paperwork reduction act, all public information gathering requests have to have an OMB number, which means they've gotta go through the Office of Management and Budget and and fit all these very strict guidelines and check marks. And they'll issue them that document with an OMB number, and then they can put it out to gather information. That's why that warning box is in there. If that law wouldn't be passed, it wouldn't be in there, folks. And it's in the original DS 11 and in a DS 82, renewal because it's the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time.
[01:37:56] Unknown:
There it is right in front of you. Now who had the hand up? Paul, please. We have another hand up. Scott in New York. I am unmuting you. You will have to mute yourself again after you're done talking by pressing star six. Hi, Scott. Hi, Scott. Yeah. I I see my chair is so creaky. I made a creak with the chair and you needed me. Yeah. How is everybody doing? I've been through a lot. I finally got my cases well, the case of the guardianship dismissed after seven years, January third. So I'm gonna try to get my Good. Yeah. Yeah. I really appreciate.
Now I can really, like, really do stuff, not stress. But I just tried to wand my water this morning to take some iodine, and it shorted out and started going how do you open these things? Has anyone ever taken one apart? The the blue part twists off, and then you have this little tiny little thing. It seems like it's glued together. Anybody ever dismantle one? It's the switch that broke.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
I I haven't, and I'd write a, email to John Kacera whose email address is right there on the website.
[01:39:00] Unknown:
Okay? Oh, he's actually taken on part. I didn't know he was handy also.
[01:39:04] Unknown:
No. No. No. I didn't say you're taking him apart. I said that you need to email him, and I don't know of anybody. There's probably a couple of folks that have taken him apart, but I'd rather have questions on what we're doing here today. Yeah. I know. I I'll hug you. Thank you so much. I'm back, though. Okay. Alright. Now who was the other person that had a hand up there, Paul?
[01:39:24] Unknown:
That was it.
[01:39:25] Unknown:
Bruce. I'm Oak. Yeah. Bruce. I've been up for a while.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
Do you hear me? Okay. Yeah. We're here to service you, man.
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Okay. I I had my hand up, and you didn't call me out. So I was gonna be patient with you. See it. Paul has the vision. I don't see it. Hand isn't okay. Your your hand isn't Well, I'm just asking.
[01:39:49] Unknown:
Paul says your hand isn't up. Bruce, he said your hand wasn't up.
[01:39:56] Unknown:
Okay. I just I don't know. Do you have a question? Okay. Well, let's let's go. I got a question.
[01:40:01] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm dying to hear it.
[01:40:05] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. What you read to us applies to The US citizen, not the, of what we are. Now
[01:40:16] Unknown:
residents.
[01:40:17] Unknown:
Citizen or resident.
[01:40:21] Unknown:
Okay. So we're nationals, and we're out of their jurisdiction.
[01:40:28] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:40:29] Unknown:
Okay. That's what I wanna find out. How do we handle it with this IRS and with this affidavit and whatever we're doing with them? They got they get noticed. Is that going to relieve our duties to pay taxes to them?
[01:40:50] Unknown:
Well, yes. It does. It's unless you owe eight seventy one and eight seventy seven b taxes. It's right there in the regulation. I've probably cited it a hundred or more times on the show. Yeah.
[01:41:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay.
[01:41:03] Unknown:
Just wanna clarify the the motive of what we're doing here. Okay. Well, just read this read the regulation. It's pretty self explanatory, I'm pretty sure, Bruce. An income tax is owed by all individuals. Now the important thing is maybe not yeah. It's important that they didn't use the word person there. An income tax is owed by all persons who are citizens of The United States or or or residents and to the extent of those two sections, all nonresident alien individuals. Now why didn't they use the word person there?
[01:41:49] Unknown:
Why didn't they use person?
[01:41:52] Unknown:
Why didn't they use the word person and use the word individual?
[01:41:58] Unknown:
I don't know. That's beyond my favorite. Corporations,
[01:42:03] Unknown:
trusts, partnerships, etcetera, etcetera, and they've got their own separate schedules over there. Part one is for individuals. That an individual comes from the root word indivisible. And the reason they use that word specifically is because you get your rights and duties, the individual in the same entity. Corporations do not. They get the rights, and the duties are over in the board of directors. Okay? So it's very interesting that they use that word individual there instead of person. Just something I've noticed over the years. Our newer people probably don't get the grasp of this.
And, I'm not sure. We got a little bit of time here. It's an important module, the law background here. The formula that runs the world is probably more for William and Tony and any of the newer people that are on than than the older folks because you've heard this before. The in the formula that runs the world, it's a very simple formula, is called r plus d equals r. Rights plus duties equal remedies. And so the type of legal person that you are, as it's just talking about here with this regulation, is a person. This is what none very few of your judges and probably none of your lawyers know, unless they're Jewish. I bet if they're Jews, they get exposed to this.
An entity, a person this is the definition. Here's where you need your notepad. The definition of person is, quote, an entity, e n t I t y, an entity to whom the law assigns rights and duties. So that's the left side of that pair of that, formula, r plus d, rights plus duties. Now some people will teach you. Brent would argue. He's been an attorney for twenty years, very knowledgeable. He would, argue that a duty arises from a right. Yeah. It's not wrong. Okay? Ed Vieira, the scholarly Harvard guy with all the PhDs from up there, a a good patriot, says that a right and a duty are the same thing.
Well, that may be true too. But you people being new to this stuff here, I try and teach you that they're correlative, that a right and a duty every right has a correlative duty. I have a right to life, and I have a duty not to take your life. So every right has a correlative duty. And then the right side is a remedy. And isn't it interesting that one the remedy is equal to both the rights and the duties on the left side of the equation? And that's where you can come in and use this formula and use the knowledge. Well, you gotta probably work with it a bit, get a little bit fluent at it. But, Jeff Rents asked me the question. He said, well, I hear this Admiralty Law. Can you explain it? I said, Jeff, it's real easy. I said, e r plus d equals r, formula that runs the world, explained it to him. And I said the rights and the duties in this question, we're gonna switch over to remedies.
So let's go to remedies in all of the bodies of law, and we have this page on the inter on our website somewhere, Paul. You direct them to it, but it's got every body of law in the world, the common law with the king's bench. Somebody mentioned the king's bench the other day. It was yesterday when Paul was here. He was in front he was on the king's bench in his in his house thing over there. Then you got equity. Then you got, you might have maritime. Then you might have admiralty. Then you might have, something else. There's about seven different bodies of law. And how do you know which one applies to you? That formula, legal person.
Where does you, the entity, get your rights and know your duties? Well, wherever you get it from is where you owe is what kind of person you are. Okay? The fourteenth amendment says all persons born or naturalized. Well, does that mean everybody? No. That's legal persons. So they're telling you, if you're a fourteenth amendment person, you're born or naturalized, and you go to the fourteenth amendment, you get your civil rights, and you owe your duties like filing your income tax form and following the regulations from all these wacko agencies. So that's the person you are. You're a fourteenth amendment person, all persons. Doesn't apply to everybody. That's why in the next thing, it says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It doesn't say all persons born or naturalized in The United States are subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's definitive.
This is and. There's a choice there. If there's some that are and subject and you've gotta do something to do it, then there are some that are and not subject. So there's where you come back, go to the constitution and say, well, voluntary servitude is legal by omission in the thirteenth amendment and where they say they can't impair the ability to contract. That's a contract. They can't stop you from volunteering into servitude. Well, what are the only two lawful and legal places in the constitution which allows servitude or slavery? If you wanna put it more bluntly. It's voluntary.
Well, the thirteenth amendment and that one. So it's voluntary that you've got to do something and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, here's your two questions. Well, hey. Are you a citizen of The United States? Oh, yeah. I'm gonna check it. Yes. Are you a resident? Oh, I live right over there. Just painted my house last summer. Ain't it pretty? Yes. And you signed something. Now you volunteered in all that. You being a fourteenth amendment person, you're under their control. You go, I never entered any any contract with the federal government. Well, you didn't enter into it. They entered you with fraud, but you endorsed it and you agreed with it and you signed something.
Every time they ever asked you, your whole damn adult life, those two questions, I guarantee you every one of you said yes to both of them and you signed your name to it. You gave them their power. Take it away. Take it away. It's real simple. And Tony's on the other day. So what about when they come and kick your door in? Tony, man, they don't kick your door in if they don't have authority over you. You and you didn't know these differences, so you see that and you think they're gonna do that to everybody, and they're just not.
That's our experience. I've got fourteen years of experience with the public of teaching people these things and not having their door kicked in. In fact, we've had sheriff's departments down in Florida, just about where you are, come to the house and have the occupant show them the affidavit, and they leave. They didn't kick the door down. They left because we do everything up front the correct way, and they've already been put on notice of our status change. And so now they've been put on legal notice. That's due process. You've done it correctly. You did it with the secretary of state. You've gone back and weaponized your position with your local state and area, and now they've been put on notice. You say it's a piece of paper? It is, but it's a damned important concept. Because if they think that's just a piece of paper and come kick your door in after they've been put on notice, guess what happens?
They just lost their cloak of immunity and became private citizens, exercising unlawful things against you, and the state cannot defend them. The county can't defend them, and you can go sue them personally for everything they've got. So there's your check and balance right there. Now we've got that in process right now with Joe Lustica up in his town in New Jersey where some cops started screwing with him because he didn't like him, and he didn't have a tag on his car. And they went through this whole series of total crap that I won't belabor you with at this stage. And Joe, being an excellent researcher and and law guy, went in and went back to the origins of the city and the things that they agreed to when they incorporated the city and all those things, and he went back and proved that they had not been adhering to them. And he not only filed a key cam suit with the city of New Jersey that he's in. He also sent it to the state attorney general and the governor of the state.
And in short order, the court came back to him and said, listen. We're gonna drop all these charges against you, but we gotta love we need to tail this out. I got a little discovery we gotta take care of, and then we'll just close the case and everything's done. He was about to take over this city. He was about to take over the city, Tony. So please tell me this paperwork doesn't work because I know it does. What, Paul?
[01:51:44] Unknown:
The cop won't even look him in the eye now.
[01:51:47] Unknown:
Nope. And I hope Joe goes after the judge. Finally, judges, he's in there, questioning jurisdiction. And the judge is squirming like a worm in hot ashes. And he's sitting there and he finally goes, do you buy gasoline? And Joe goes, yeah. Yeah. I've got jurisdiction. And that's how they went on. Well, mister Judge has got his little ass up. It it it being personally responsible now too along with this cop, along with the prosecutor that allowed them to prosecute this case all the way up to the levels it went to. All those people, they're now personally liable.
And Joe is that case isn't closed up yet. Probably about right now, it should be. But I hope Joe goes after them hook, line, and sinker. Because what we need is a scalp on our belt from somebody like this judge and this cop and this prosecutor. When anybody else tries this damn crap around the country, you're gonna point them to that and go, do you want that to happen to you? Do you? So please don't tell me this doesn't work until you've really immersed yourself in the information. Man, it works. K? And it's not just a piece of paper. It's your declaration under two hundred and fifty plus years of law as to what you are, and they can't override that without being open tyrants.
They'll never be open tyrants unless they've got control of the country like they did in Soviet Russia. Okay. They'll be open tyrants then, but they won't be before that. Yes, Paul.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
I think what we've got going on here is throughout the course of time, particularly in the patriot movement, everybody's been looking for that for that that key, looking for, the root cause behind it and have been throwing paperwork and documentation at the powers that be trying to convince them that they have no authority over a person, but they're still begging. They're still asking permission to be free. The difference with us is we're not asking for permission. We're declaring a fact. They don't have jurisdiction over us, period.
[01:54:23] Unknown:
They they just can't deny it. Now you get some squirrelly cases. We got one case. I'm sorry to say it. It just it shocks me. Comes out of Alabama by a female magistrate who probably doesn't know her behind from a hole in the dirt, who when Joe or Mike Nail comes up to her in on a speeding ticket and hands her the affidavit, and she'd already submitted it and given notice. And this female magistrate says, well, I I I don't recognize your affidavit. Excuse me? Female? Ma'am? What which law school did you graduate from? Woodrow Wilson correspondence school?
You just overturned two hundred and fifty years or more of established legal and lawful precedent, and you're gonna sit there like that, you bitch. Excuse me. But
[01:55:19] Unknown:
but, Raj, that is not a court of law. It's not a court of record. It's an administrative
[01:55:26] Unknown:
process. It doesn't matter. She's did everything right. She's got to admire she's got to recognize that. And she's the one that ought to be impeached. Okay? And then and then Mike, bless his heart, he he's a guy that works in in a in a lumber, company there. And and so he goes out and tries to appeal it well because he's a layman. He, tries to attach another incident to it, barely gets it in under the wire. So now the appellate court says, nope. Sorry. You missed your twenty days. Well, Michael goes on and further investigates it. He goes out and tries to talk to a couple of lawyers about what we do here. Hell, they don't understand it. They can't think outside the box. And so then he can't do he can't appeal it to the Supreme Court himself. It's expensive.
You gotta know what you're doing. And he doesn't have the money to do that because she's garnishing all his damn money and put him on a payment plan. And now the Alabama tax authorities are after him. All that because a magistrate judge doesn't know her butt from a hole in the ground about law. And she wants to get up there and show you how powerful she is over you.
[01:56:38] Unknown:
I would bet you that she or somebody that she knows
[01:56:42] Unknown:
is who sicced the state tax authority on it. Could have been. Could have been. I don't know any of I just know it's ugly, and that's the only case that's happened like that in fourteen years to my knowledge. Joe Lustica is exactly the opposite, where he almost got the city back. And they freaked out when that happened. K? So anyway, well, there's our day, and I hope you got something out of it that you didn't know before. And, I hope it suits you, and go take a short weekend. And, we'll be back Monday with John Kasarab. And, he would be Scotty, you wanna know about your wand, call back Monday when John's here. He's the guy that could probably answer that for you.
[01:57:26] Unknown:
Okay? Yeah. I'll I'll try.
[01:57:29] Unknown:
Okay. Otherwise, than that, I'm gonna go enjoy what is a beautiful day in Ecuador this morning and probably grab a little lunch and, watch a bunch of basketball this evening. So, anyway, I don't know what you're gonna do, but I hope you do it safely. And I hope you got something out of our show. And, you as you know, as I tell you often, I love each and every one of you. You don't understand what I've gone through to find you. Hey. K? So, anyway, we're a big gather hands and sing Kumbaya, and we'll regather on Monday and see if we can solve the problems of the world, Paul.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Alright. Thank you, brother.
[01:58:12] Unknown:
My age. We have, buddy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sorry, Mark wasn't with us today. I'm a have to follow-up and see what's going on with him. Boom. That's it. Okay. Now does anybody have any questions for me? Well, there's all kinds of hands up there. I got one. Okay. Yeah. I told you.
[01:58:32] Unknown:
So we're muted through the whole thing, so what do you expect?
[01:58:36] Unknown:
Well, I'm glad Not through the whole thing. This last half hour, it was open.
[01:58:42] Unknown:
Just Well, I can't tell if I did it or not, so I'm a liar.
[01:58:45] Unknown:
Okay. What you've been doing is already I
[01:58:49] Unknown:
wanted to ask you as a national, do you think when we're talking about our state, we should say the state of or California state?
[01:58:57] Unknown:
Oh, I think you probably use the latter if you wanna be really accurate.
[01:59:02] Unknown:
So California state.
[01:59:04] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know that it makes any difference. There are probably laws. I mean, you guys have found laws in California written for state citizens. I know Richard McDonald had. You get a letter back from your attorney general saying we always, recognize our private citizens or something to that effect. So I I either one would do. If you wanna be technical, I'd say the latter.
[01:59:30] Unknown:
Roger, Bruce.
[01:59:32] Unknown:
Bruce?
[01:59:33] Unknown:
You're a Californian. That's the smallest state. Like, I'm a New Yorker.
[01:59:39] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Scotty. What you got, Bruce?
[01:59:43] Unknown:
South Carolina. Just that. What did I do? South Carolina. That's what the Confederates did. South Carolina.
[01:59:53] Unknown:
And you are a South Carolinian.
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Boy, is he.
[01:59:58] Unknown:
Yes. Okay. I'm a South Carolina. Else?
[02:00:01] Unknown:
Alright. Now has anybody else got anything for me before I Roger. Yes.
[02:00:07] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Michael. Minnesota.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Michael. How you doing? You get a little bit out of the show?
[02:00:14] Unknown:
Yes? Minnesota. Did? Yeah. Good show this morning. I have a few more questions regarding the IRS. What would you do? Continue to file each year with a ten forty n r or stop filing altogether? I've stopped filing altogether. I don't know anything. Stop. I've got eight After noticing them, after
[02:00:38] Unknown:
Okay. After notice them, that's all you need to do. This is who So they're gonna continue
[02:00:44] Unknown:
they're gonna continue sending, non filing notices in the mail letters. Right?
[02:00:49] Unknown:
You just What I would do stick your affidavit. Okay. What I would do every time is I would answer those if that's that confirmatory writing letter. I would address it by answering them and saying, again, here's a copy of my affidavit and the date it was sent in and the people the date you were notified. And I'd leave it right there. Because every time you answer that way, that affidavit goes into your administrative file again. And if they ever wanna come after you, you can go in and request those documents, and they can't keep them out of a court administrative or otherwise because they're already in a court of record, your administrative file.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
They're never gonna be Do you have any Well, you can Do you have any student so you have no students over the past ten years or so that went 14. Had to go that far. 14 had to go that far through a court.
[02:01:44] Unknown:
Not that I know of. Wow. And believe me, the first time anybody gets a freaking letter or something, who do you think they contact first, Michael?
[02:01:57] Unknown:
I know. I know. I know. I know. You've said it many times. Now my next question is state of state of Minnesota requires a ten forty included with the Minnesota revenue form. So if I don't file with it with the IRS, there's nothing to include. They they want, they want an IRS, they want the Minnesota form each year, even non residents are supposed to file every year. So how do I what do I do before I file it with Minnesota? Get a ten
[02:02:28] Unknown:
forty n r? I don't know. Again, a ten forty n r, put all zeros, attach that to your Minnesota state in the package with no zeros because they take what you owe. Even if I don't give one to the IRS?
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Even if the IRS doesn't get one?
[02:02:44] Unknown:
Michael, I don't know. I've never had anybody ask me these questions before. I'm getting I I would say, contact Mark, a, about it. But if you don't owe any federal, you don't owe any state, why don't you put Minnesota on notice that you file that? If you have any 871 or 877 b taxes on the federal level, you will be sure to include it and go through the Minnesota processes prescribed.
[02:03:11] Unknown:
Mhmm. I have another question. You know I'm a farmer. And you know that Yes. Do you know that farmers are heavily subsidized by The US
[02:03:20] Unknown:
with Well, that's a that's a problem for you. Are you?
[02:03:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Almost every farmer's got is subsidized with the government, whether it's crop insurance. Hell, even while Trump was president the first term and all that tariff war with China, the farmers were getting payments, during when corn and bean prices tanked and the tariffs were up with the trade war, farmers were getting payments to offset the low grain prices.
[02:03:55] Unknown:
Well, then you could say if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty and if you're getting subsidized by the federal government, you owe the tax on it. Again, please please contact Mark. He's much more up on this than I am. I hate the tax situation, and I personally have not filed a return since the early nineties. K?
[02:04:15] Unknown:
I got I got another subject. I put the, the police, county attorney, the Minnesota AG, all they're all on notice. Right? All the ones that you've said, hey. Yeah. You ought to notice them while I did it. K? Yep. Guess what? The sheriff, was it the deputy under the sheriff, and the county attorney of my county. Right? I noticed them by mail, then I also included a PDF attachment and emailed all of them, and they blocked my email. I can't even email them. What does that tell you?
[02:04:55] Unknown:
After I emailed them, they blocked Have they come and arrested you?
[02:04:59] Unknown:
No. No. But what what does that tell you that I can't even tell you that?
[02:05:03] Unknown:
Well, it tells me that the I put that they're probably ignorant of the fact, and you may wanna write them another letter and say, my email appears to be blocked. What is the reason for that action? Okay. Alright. What other what other Minnesota state citizens are have you blocked on their emails?
[02:05:24] Unknown:
Mhmm. Interesting.
[02:05:27] Unknown:
May I ask? Alright. So for all of you that say this is a piece of paper doesn't make any difference, I hope you're hearing this.
[02:05:36] Unknown:
This is Bruce.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Yeah, Bruce.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
They recognize the affidavit that you sent them, and they don't wanna deal with it. They didn't know what it is. True.
[02:05:47] Unknown:
Yeah. But I you know, you might wanna continue to poke them a little bit. And I don't know about your subsidizing from the federal government. I it it falls under the mantra, I think, Michael, of if you receive the benefit, you owe the duty. But please confer with Mark on that, and don't just take my observations.
[02:06:09] Unknown:
Mhmm. But you recommend not even filing
[02:06:13] Unknown:
after putting them all on notice. Don't file. Don't Why why would you know, again, why would you file if you don't owe them anything? Alright. You know? And in your court That's a question. To either one of them, I would put those little sentences. I intend to pay each and every lawful constitutional tax that I ever owe. Something to that effect. Because see, you're disarming them right there. They've gotta put those correspondence in your in your administrative file. When you write them something and they send you something, it's gotta be in that file. So what you're doing is you're just packing your file with stuff like that.
Okay?
[02:06:56] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:06:57] Unknown:
Yes. You're welcome, Michael.
[02:06:59] Unknown:
I have a question. Who who else? Paul, would you add a comment? Anybody else got anything for me? If I made freedom of speech, they're interfering with this freedom of speech. Now go for that. Why are you interfering with my freedom of speech?
[02:07:11] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else got anything?
[02:07:15] Unknown:
I've got something for him. Now how is the firm set up? Is it set up as a sole proprietorship, or is it its own entity and you're an employee?
[02:07:26] Unknown:
Sole. It's all in my name. Okay.
[02:07:29] Unknown:
So if it's all in your name, then you need to talk to Mark and find out what of what impact the federal subsidies would have on you. And then make no other decisions on ten forty and ours or anything until you have that answer. You need that answer first. Yeah. You may have to put the farm in its own entity, either in an LLC or a trust, and then do it as a pass through. And then you as an employee would not be taxed on any of the income. But it it's that is way above our pay grade. The questions that you've got, you need to talk to Mark, and I would say probably also talk to John Kasarab because he has, experience with financial planning.
[02:08:18] Unknown:
Okay. I you might be thinking about putting that in a trust or or something. Yes, Larry.
[02:08:25] Unknown:
Yes. These forms called, whatever NRs that are filed with the state. Every state has their version, like the federal version of an NR. And though all of those forms from what I have seen, because I've I've looked at a lot of different states, and those are for nationals of other countries. They're not dealing with us, a national of The United States Of America. So when when Michael says you gotta you know, the rules the the state rules say you have to attach a federal return to the NR Minnesota NR return. That's talking about nationals of other countries who are working in the state of Minnesota.
That's not talking about us.
[02:09:15] Unknown:
There you go. Okay. I'm a go start my weekend. Y'all got my full efforts today,
[02:09:24] Unknown:
and I will see you on Monday. Have a great weekend, and, we'll see you then. I hope. Yes. Comments? Thank you, Roger. I have one more thing to add. I think Michael would benefit from that, two page document of case law. It's called US Citizens or Property. Yeah. US It's on the website. State citizens or not. He should get that because it it cites the, IRS cases as well as everything else.
[02:09:51] Unknown:
Yep. I'm just not sure of those subsidies, Michael. I'm sorry. I just hadn't dealt with people that were getting them before. So, anyway, I'm a go take a short weekend. You guys do the same. Thank you. I hope you got something out of today, and I'll see you on Monday with John. So, see y'all then.
[02:10:11] Unknown:
Ciao, Paul. See you. Also, the right to a petition for grievances to their block.
[02:10:16] Unknown:
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[02:11:04] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Program Overview
Discussion on IRS and Tax Systems
Historical Context of Taxation
The Role of Tariffs and Taxes in History
The Jewish Shetar and Its Impact
The Exchequer System and Its Evolution
The United States Code and Tax Law
Push Code 09 and IRS Procedures
Legal Definitions and Their Implications
Listener Questions and Closing Remarks
