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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, we navigate through a myriad of topics ranging from the intricacies of legal status and citizenship to the cultural dynamics in Japan. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the legal nuances surrounding the concept of nationality and citizenship, particularly focusing on the implications of the 14th Amendment and the distinctions between state and federal jurisdictions. The conversation delves into the complexities of legal documentation and the importance of understanding one's legal status, with insights from various participants including legal experts and those with personal experiences in the field.

As the episode progresses, the focus shifts to cultural observations from a recent trip to Japan, highlighting the unique societal norms and the impact of foreign influences on Japanese culture. The discussion touches on the challenges faced by Japan in maintaining its cultural identity amidst globalization and demographic shifts. The episode also briefly touches on geopolitical issues, including the potential implications of recent political developments in the United States and their global impact. This episode provides a rich tapestry of legal, cultural, and geopolitical insights, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of the interconnectedness of these themes.

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Yes. We'd all love to change the world for sure. Thank you, Alvin.   This is the Sabadell edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.   He hasn't shown up yet, but,   I'm sure he will shortly.   Yes. His   his,   portable is up and open.   He probably just lost track of time. I'm gonna take this opportunity   to mention   a couple of things. The   websites that,   that support our message, that would be thematrixdocs.com.   Thematrixd0cs.com.   That   will is where you will find the links to eurofolkradio.com,   Global Voice Radio Network,   and,   also free conference calls so you can join us live on the show.  

Another website of note,   Dave and Kaye's website,   nationalstatus.com   and nationalstatus.info,   two different ways to get to the same awesome website.   On there, you will find   amazing things,   literally   amazing things.   We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM.   This is, as I said, the Sabado   edition for 08/09/2025.   And I do see that Roger found us. Yeah. Probably   probably electricity  

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Electricity went off in the middle of the night. It just came back on right at   the 09:58.   So I   just jumped on. Let me go get a cup of coffee. Okay. If you'll continue on, Paul, and I'll at least get my eyes open because I was still in   bed. Okay. And we'll have a believe it or not, we'll have a radio show, which I didn't think we're in a half today. So give me a second. I'll be right back with you. Okay?  

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Alright. Absolutely.   I wonder if Mark is with us this morning.   Let me, kinda scroll through the list here real quick and see if he's   joined us in   FCC   yet.  

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Hey, Paul. This is David.  

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Yeah, David. I wanted  

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I just wanna mention Mark. I did, speak to Mark,   and, he's having some more additional challenges with his parents. You know, he takes care of them. So he just wanted me to mention that. He may he may try and get on today, but maybe not. That's all I have. Okay. Yeah. I don't see him in the list. But,  

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oh,   yeah. I don't I don't see him in the list, but   we'll,   we'll leave the light on for him for sure.  

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I did mention at the beginning of the program, nationalstatus.com   and nationalstatus.info.   I did,   I did edit the trifold brochure.   I left everything else that Gary and Gina had done,   as they did it because that was awesome. I just changed the references   on page.  

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But the only thing I did was I mentioned nationalstatus.com   as a website.   What on there what on that website would you   think   are the key, the most important   elements, particularly   for new students?  

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Yeah.   I I think that the academy,   Paul, would probably be key.   You know, we want them to understand the concepts, of course, before they jump into the process   with documentation.   So I would say,   the academy   is probably   the number one   so folks get up to speed. And then second to that, excuse me, would be the remedy section,   which actually has the step by step process and examples of forms and so forth,   would be second.   So, yeah, I would just say, yeah, if they could check out the academy,   the learning center. They actually, the academy is under the learning center along with some other items, but,   that's a place they can take courses   and learn all about the concepts. So, again, it's real important folks understand the concepts before they dive head first over.  

Thanks.  

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Right. Because   the matrix stocks is kind of a kind of a drink of from a fire hose.   It was   it was a a very quick site that was put up, and, basically, its its original intent was to replace,   Roger   having to   actually answer individual emails from people with requests for information. He would have a document that he would copy and paste into the email,   but he had to touch every single send button.   And,   I, I just   I saw a need, and I filled it. And over the course of time, it has grown,   and it has done so kind of like,   kind of like a wild bush,   out in the yard.  

It it eventually will take over.  

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Your website's like the Library of Alexandria as it applies to Nationalist.   Right?   It just it it's kudos to you that you have been able   to save and,   you know, all those documents, all those things. It's just incredible.   Yeah. I mean, sometimes a little challenge to find things, but we   we pull from your,   reservoir of information all the time. So thank you.   And we   try and put it in a format that it's easier to find. So,   you know,   absolutely, you've done a great job in in tracking all that stuff to the point where at least it's stored,   and it's in one place. So thank you so much.  



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Well, thank you. Thank you for saying that. I wonder if Roger's got his coffee yet. Roger,   are you with us?   Nope. Not yet. He's still muted.   And we don't have,   we don't have Mark here yet.   Let's talk about the tribute page for Roger on nationalstatus.info   or nationalstatus.com.   Is that is that page filling out? Are are people showing up there and leaving their kudos for Roger? You know, we're seeing we're seeing a lot of visitors to the site checking it out, but,  

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for whatever reason, we're not getting a lot of,   tribute voice messages   or   written thank yous, but we're we were hoping to and, you know, maybe it's just have some we have need to have some patience and people will do that. But,   again, the site is built,   as a tribute to to Roger, a tribute website.   So it's rogersales.com,   and it's say l e s, by the way.   Mhmm.   So, yeah, we're getting a lot of visitors, Paul. But   for whatever reason, folks aren't leaving messages. And it may be due to folks don't wanna leave,   their name, and they really don't need to leave a a real name. All we need is email address,  

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actually. Right.  

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And so, anyway, yeah, it it goes through,   some of Roger's history,   and it really does take the place in many respects to the website he had that,   is no longer out there, Sovereign to Serve. So Right. Anyway, yeah, check it out, folks.  

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Then   that website,   I wanna wanna mention that we are officially,   divorced   from the website sovereigntosurf.com   because   the last time I went there, it it   forwarded to, like, a, like, a landing page for   a, a video game, an adult,   a a pseudo adult themed video game. I mean, I don't think it's, like, super adult theme, but it is.   It it goes in that then. So I would like to officially claim that we are officially divorced from sovereigntosurf.com   and have absolutely no administrative   or technical control over that website. So,  

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Nope.  

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Hey, Paul. That day is over.   Yes, Larry.  

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Yeah. So can you go over once again   any and all websites that are associated with RogerSales?   Like, can you just briefly go over?   Is it just because there used to be several. Right? No. There was just one more. It's now gone. Right. There there was Okay. So all we have is matrix stocks. Correct? The matrix stocks and national And national status. They just went over it. Yeah. We just talked about it.  

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The matrixstocks.com   and nationalstatus.com   or nationalstatus.info.   Both,   pages point to the same website. It's kinda like expose the matrix and and, the matrix docs used to go to the same website.   And the only other website that has now been added,   thanks to Dave and Kaye, is rogers sales dot com.   And it's really amazing that they were able to grab that domain name without, like, any funky imaginations   or anything like that.   So it's Yeah. The matrixstocks.com,   nationalstatus.com,   and rogersales.com.   That is it. Yep.  

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That's it.   And the other one that had never it hadn't had a change on it. Sovereign to serve hadn't had a change on it for years. There's really not much it the only thing that was on there was resources.   Okay? I just I did not like you know, you just don't like working with people. Sometimes you just,   oil and water.   Yeah. And that's the way, it was for this guy. And finally, I didn't even like calling him to try and get him to change things and talking to him. So   finally, I just jettisoned that he was charging me to have the sites hung on his server.   And, you know, after a couple thousand dollars, I got over it. Okay?  



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Right.  

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Well, I don't know how to have a website, Paul, when we met.  

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Right.   I I don't know what he's doing or how he's actually managing or maintaining   any websites he's got up, but it's really not that expensive.   I mean, you can get a hosting account for $10 a month.   And,   especially if you don't have a ton of traffic that you have to,   Yeah. Accommodate the The main  

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thing was I just didn't like working with a guy. K? Mhmm. So, anyway, that's all. Doesn't even come up for me anymore. Sorry. Right? Do what do what now, Lisa?  

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Sovereign to serve won't doesn't even come up for me anymore when I try to go there.  

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Okay.   So it's just  

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it's over.   Yeah, Larry.  

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So exposing the matrix that used to be a website and that you got rid of that one a while back. And what was the difference   between that and the matrix docs?  

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Expose the matrix.com   and the matrixdocs.com,   pointed to the same website.   It's just like nationalstatus.com   and nationalstatus.info   points to the same   website.   Exposethematrix.com   is still alive. We still have it. It is a development site   where the new matrixstocks.com   is being developed,   and then it will be ported over, and then the two will once again point to the same web address.   But they're actually on   two different hosting accounts   on two different continents,   so that is why I did that. I want the websites to be multi homed   in multiple portions   of the world. So   if anything happens in one area, there's another one to fall back to, to fail over to. And most people don't like all that technical information. So Yeah. I know. I know Roger chided me yesterday about it, but I just want people to understand that we have the live website. We have a development website. We're working on the development website, and hopefully, we'll come up with something very pretty and very functional.  

So  

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Yes. Hopefully. So these are the bumps in the road.   And the reason is because I've I've always tried to do it on low budget. You know? Right.   So, anyway, that's behind us. I'm I'm a little bit awake. I've got a little bit of a cup of coffee down here this morning. Sorry for my end. It just,   you know, I listened at night when I sleep, I listened to storms. I have storms on in the background.   Mhmm. And the middle of the night when the electricity goes off, everything goes off and you wake up because of the silence.   And,   and it just didn't come back on for a long time. So the alarm went off. The electricity wasn't on. I said, well, I get a chance to sleep today.  

So, anyway, here we are. Sorry.   Happens.   Don't know why, you know, obviously,   But, it's not any of this stuff we had a year or so ago down here with this rolling blackout  

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crap we had to go through. Well, I didn't know that you were going to be here eventually   because   your battery backup keeps your Internet live and your portable,   as   it was up, and I was able to remote into it if I wanted to, though I didn't.   Yeah. So I knew you were on the planet somewhere.   Yeah. So I wasn't worried.  

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It's always some kinda, you know, snafu like this. So anyway, good morning, guys. I guess we're a little bit late here. What is it? One   fifteen minutes after. Too bad.   So we got, some folks with us, I hope.   Boy, there's a lot of crap happening. Let me get my brain together. There's a whole bunch of stuff going on that's worth talking about. But Saturdays when we usually, if we do have any, have new students that wanna ask questions and stuff because you're not working. So if there's any of those on there is Austin with us today by any chance?   Or is he off camping again before the season ends? Hey, Roger.  



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Yes.  

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This is Tom in Los Angeles. Hey, Tom. I'm glad you called back. How are you doing? I'm doing well. My, my wife had our our fourth child six weeks ago. Oh, wow. Well, congratulations. Blinked. And, you know, here I am.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   Well,   glad to have you back. Thought about you a few times. How's your attorney friend? Do you ever get over the hump with him?  

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Yeah. That's what that's what I was calling about. I've Oh, cool. Been a little backed up. Yeah. But my my goal was to take the,   citizenship handbook and condense it into the least amount of space as possible   Yes, sir. With links and facts so that I can go through it step by step from zero to a 100 with my attorney friend. Okay.   And I've I was wondering I just have a couple of questions where I'm looking for some evidence, and I was gonna post it to the chat and see if the brain trust here could help me find some of these,  

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evidence points I need. We'll be happy to try.   I was gonna tell you because I've thought about you and that incident between then and there. Yeah. One thing you could show him is, the fourteenth amendment says and the subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It doesn't say are   subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's a very important key thing right there for people, especially like him.  

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Yeah.   Yep.   So my my   actually, I'll post it to the chat in FCC in case anybody wants to to take a look at it. I've highlighted,   where I need or where I'm kinda looking for help on evidence, and I'll I'll run it by you to see.   Okay.   I just posted it. The first one is, were you referred to a small s state   as one of the   independent several states? Correct.   Do you know where that's listed in the in the codes? I don't know. Regulations?  

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I don't know. There you you kinda gotta have to find that and spot it out. I can tell you a couple of if you look right down   on the document from the state department website,   certificate of non citizen nationality.   If you'll look beyond the   that's a very important document for you in this situation.  

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Okay?  

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First of all Yes. And depending on which document you choose, there's a number of different versions. It's either in the first or the the second, or third paragraph.   And it starts out   according to the IMA,   that's the Immigration Naturalization   Act,   all US citizens   are US nationals.   But only a few   US nationals   are not US citizens.   Those are American Samoans.  

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K? Yep. Because they that time. Are nationals,  

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but they do not get the birthright citizenship   because they left American Samoa   unincorporated.   It's the only unincorporated   territory in the entire system.   So therefore, they have their natural rights. Right?  

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Mhmm.   But they didn't get And then it says a national incorporated them so they don't get birthright citizenship.  

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If they come to The US and a number of them do,   a lot of them go to Utah because I guess the Mormons have been real good down there.   And when they come to Utah and they get there, they might get into a civil service job or something. There's always a ceiling   if they want to,   that they can't get through without naturalizing.   If they wanna be an officer in the military, they've got to naturalize.   So even the American Samoans born into the system as nationals, they call them non citizen nationals,   have these limitations on them because they're not birthright citizenship.   Okay? So that's a very important concept that's tied right there.  

That's the only place I've ever seen that   ever.   And it's one of the most honest   documents you're ever gonna see coming out of the federal government. K?   Now below that   policy statement, if you will because what they're doing there,   if you read it, it'll say, we used to give out these certificates,   but, you know, Tom, the cost of paper and ink has gotten so absorbent that we just can't budget it anymore.   And so what we ask you to do is to apply for a passport.   Now if an American Samoan gets a passport   on the first page of the visa pages,   there's a big stamp. This person is not a citizen of The United States.  

K? Mhmm. Now below that policy   yes. Yes, Paul.  

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Very quickly,   that paragraph   is where the the sentence,   a national owes permanent allegiance to a small s state. It is right there in that paragraph.  

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It was right there, but I don't know about in the body. But below that, they break down the INA.   And that   statement,   a national owes total allegiance to a small s state   is incredibly   important.   Incredibly.   Now the first place that shows up, that's,   that first place that shows up   when the book was out,   I was having an exchange   with Larry Beecraft.   And,   and and be and and national came up and Beecraft I didn't know all this. I thought the noncitizen national in the passport was us   for for a couple of years. Okay?   And, so,   anyway,   Beecraft and I exchanged emails and, he sends me back   the nationality   act. This you might wanna write down for your lawyer friend.  

The nationality   act of 1940.   That's where they did it.   Now knowing these guys and how they do things,   they always wait till there's something they can distract you from. Like, oh, World War one start. That's okay. We're gonna put this over here in the statutes.   Okay? So that's what excuse me. That's how they hide stuff.   And so, one way anyway.   And so that   is in the statutes at large, which means it's organic   constitutional law. And this is where they flipped it and hid it,   hid the state citizen behind this, label.   And so if you go to the nationality act in 1940,   it starts out with a bunch of definitions.  

Cool. You know, before like Voltaire, before we, discuss,   let us define our terms.   And so this piece of legislation   has a number of definitions right under the heading of the acts, the nationality act.   Definition a,   that one right there.   That's,   a nationalized total allegiance to a small less state. Now this is something I've realized.   We've commented on it before. I've I've never heard anybody   get into this stuff in this depth where they can identify this   technique,   they always put the hook at the front   just like that.   Yeah.  

Definition   a, all persons born in the fourteenth amendment. Boom. There it is.   Twenty six one point one dash one a, first page. Bam. There it is. They always put the hook at the front. K?   So that right there Yeah. Was carried over into the nationality   act that they're referring to in that document,   and that's what it is. They pull that out of there underneath when they're breaking the doc   the,   breaking down some of this stuff under the policy statement. And it says right there that statement, a a nationalized total allegiance to a small estate. Now   for   our new people   that haven't gotten   a a lot of this background and foundation yet,   the most important word in that sentence is allegiance.  

If you don't understand the allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance,   you'll read right over that and not even know what it's talking about. That's what Larry Beecraft did. Okay?   Yeah. So but I was schooled by John Benson. It sticks out like a neon sign to me. So a national   owes total allegiance, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance   to a small s state. Now further down a couple of paragraphs,   you'll see them break down federal states, and they're all capital s. So there there's one way you can tell it. You wanna know another one?   Go you can go back to IRS,   back to the internal revenue code   and look at the definition of states or they're in a definition, but where they give you examples   of states.  

And then when Alaska and Hawaii   got added as states, they had to remove them from that list.   K? So there's another way if you go back a ways you can find it. I don't know that they ever really define these things.   But there is the best way, modern way, as you see, the smallest state is at the top, allegiance for protection, and national identifies it. Couple of paragraphs down, it shows the federal states, and they're all capitalized.   Puerto Rico, Guam, etcetera, etcetera.   That's the best way I can tell you right off the heck right off the tip of my tongue when I'm still haven't finished a cup of coffee yet.  

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Okay.   And then,   my next question is is direct proof of, the capital s state means the federal government. Well, there it is. I just And I found a link to the US code   in title 28,   and it's, item   14. It's a capital s. Means any of the several states,   the District Of Columbia   Yeah. And then it goes on to say Puerto Rico and Marianas. Yeah. Yeah. Is The way they'll the way they'll District of Columbia.  

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It's federal. Let me show you how they trick you with this. They use the word includes,   and they'll say a federal states include.   And that just give you the and and you'd think it means all the states, but it just means the federal territories.   That word includes. When they use includes,   they only it only encompasses the things that are listed after it.   These guys are real sneaky. K? Your your lawyer friend knows that.   He does that damn slick thing. Yeah.   But the best one, it was the one I told you originally was a and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Now look at it this way.   Just the fourteenth amendment as it stands. Boy, I've never heard anybody else come up with that either. K?  

They'll you'll hear them talking here lately. You're gonna hear more of it as we go forward because birthright citizenship's on the table. Okay?   We had a we had a ruling with it in the last term, and you still hear people say, they've gotten rid of birthright citizenship.   That was only for the illegal   immigrants that had children while they were here illegally.   That's what that Supreme Court case was about last term.   Now they're gonna go in and try and approach evidently birthright citizenship   period,   which comes from all persons born, fourteenth amendment. And, And, of course, the reason they did it was because they could hide the feudal system underneath it. K? Mhmm. Excuse me. So you think they might scale it back  

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to immigrants that are established   in The United States, but they'll never take away birthright   citizenship for established immigrants because then they take away feudalism?  

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The whole system goes if they take it away.   They don't have any way to start their financial system or their agencies to deal with.   See, that's the reason they did all this is because, a, this is the root of the credit system. You know, you've heard there's no money. There's only credit.   But we're we're our labor is the root of the damn whole credit system. It's all based on that and that birth certificate   being,   fabricated and used as a warehouse receipt, commercial document.   And, that means that the paper have we have you have we gone over that? It's very important.   K? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, for the rest of the audience,   John thought, and I've never heard anything he thought wasn't true,   that the birth certificate see, our people think that the birth certificate causes   the   the condition.  

It doesn't. Right. It represents   the condition.   You were born in the condition the minute your feet came out of mama's birth canal. K?   And so just like your new daughter, she was born into the condition. Well, not if you follow your paperwork. You wouldn't   necessarily.   Anyway,   is the birth certificate   is represented as a warehouse receipt. That's why  

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Actually, have you explored that? The he he, he's my fourth son.   All my kids were born at home. Oh, uh-huh. But  

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I've got birth certificates for the first three. You got four boys. Four boys. Boy, you got swimmers, don't you?  

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But we have not for this one, we have not filed the the paperwork yet. And I I assume   we should, and then we can we can,  

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revoke the federal citizenship. Right. Well, I will tell you this. They will consider him whether he has a birth certificate or not.   They will consider him a birthright citizenship until you correct it. K? Yeah. That we found out through a friend of mine's son that was the same way.   Yeah. Fighting fighting the state department to get a passport. Anyway,   we go back to this fourteenth amendment. And, if you look at it and you could propose it to your attorney friend like this because he'd realize he'll he'll relate to this.   In law, they talk about a situation. Well, it's this if it meets these tests.  

Okay?   It didn't meet test a, test b, etcetera, than it is. Okay. Well, there, let's take that same,   way of looking at things and approach the fourteenth amendment with it. So all persons born or naturalized in The United States.   That's the first prong of the test.   You gotta be born or naturalized in The United States. Now   if you're born   and that go back to person, all persons, here's that person word again.   So all fourteenth amendment persons who get their rights and other duties to the fourteenth amendment who are born, If you're born now, that, absolutely applies to you or naturalized. If you naturalize   see, before they used to naturalize people in The States,   and we've got examples of that. Okay?  

But after the fourteenth amendment, it all moved federal.   So when you naturalize, you automatically take on the fourteenth amendment rights.   Period. K?   So this is all if you're born or naturalized in The United States, and they're gonna presume your fourteenth amendment because everything's based on presumption now   and subject to the jurisdiction whereof. Well, that's the second prong.   So   ask your attorney   what do you do   to become subject? Because if there's some that are and subject,   there's gotta be some that are and not subject. Don't doesn't there?  

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Right.  

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Of course. Yeah. Of course. So there it is right there. So if you do become subject,   then you're a citizen of The United States and the state where you and you reside. But there's the loophole,   and   and subject. Alright. Well, what about those who are and not subject? Who are they?   Well, that's us.  

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Right.  

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K? Right. Because even if somebody And it'll never be explicit for him. If even if somebody comes in as a migrant and gets a green card,   they're green carded. That's why they want you to be a resident.   So you fall under their jurisdiction of their laws. Yeah. Just like me being here in Ecuador, I'm I'm, my presidency thing,   long story screwed up. I I don't have any problem getting it back. I just don't have the qualifications   right now. But right now,   I can't be charged with the unless there's damage.   Damage somebody you can be charged. But otherwise, in that, they can't apply their laws to me. If I was caught speeding,   I go up, tourista.  

Okay. Go on. Be careful. You know?   So that's why they want you to become subject even as a immigrant is your as a legal resident, you're those laws apply to you like tax.   Income taxes owed to all by all individuals who are citizens of The United States or residents.   Okay?   So that's why they want you to do all that. And so, of course, the question is, how do you become subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Well, you answer two questions. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Oh, and you signed it? Well, hell, I guess you're subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and that means you're a citizen of The United States or a resident, doesn't it? Right.   Well, there it is. Well, that's where they confirm the presumption. Whole ball of wax is right there and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, really. Right.  



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Right.   And then ultimately,   it the burden the the proof comes from the performance.   Correct. That   And then you know, you have you have your logical case. You you've laid it out. And then if it works, we can assume it's true. Well, that's alright. I guess you could call that Occam's razor or something. Right?  

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Now the other thing is important with a guy like him   is pull out and have a copy of the passport application with you with the instructions.   And go to the oath.   And it says,   I swear to penalty of perjury. I'm a citizen of The United States or a noncitizen national.   They used to say that twice,   but I think they've dropped it to once so that they don't have the possibility of people catching it.   I listen. They've changed the oath and the passport since I started teaching this.   Hey. I gotta figure it takes something pretty big wampum to make them change something like the oath on the passport application because of our information, and they did. K?   Yeah. So it used to say,   I swear under penalty of perjury. I'm a citizen of The United States or   a,   or a noncitizen national. And it would say, and have not since acquiring US citizenship   or noncitizen   nationality,   broken any of the terms and conditions listed on page so and so of the instructions,   parenthesis,   unless explanatory   statement is attached.  

I swear under penalty of perjury, I must the, the foregoing is true and correct. Now   why   would they tell you to attach a, explanatory   statement   when in the previous   right before that, you got these two nebulous   noncitizen   nationality things and these differences in status, and they don't tell you to attach anything.   Why why would that be? It's right there in the oath.   K? Yeah. And now what they've added   is after you get through the oath and there's about four or five other little check boxes,   I also agreed at   and the last one is I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so of the instructions.  

Oh,   okay. Well, what's that warning box? You know, like pharmaceuticals,   black box warning. Mhmm. Well, it doesn't have the black right rectangle. It's just got the big warning letters.   And if you go in there and look in the instructions,   used to be they put it at the top of the page. This is where I found all this originally, Tom. When I was going to Argentina and had to have a passport, I was scared of interacting   with the federal government too. So I went and got the applications, came home, and on the first page at the very top is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years, and it's that warning box.   K? At the top of the page, it says United States Of America Secretary of State. I knew that he was the head guy,   although I'd it had been implanted in my subconscious from a letter I'd received fifteen years earlier from the secretary of state of Florida.  

K?   Now I can't give you a letter saying you're a state citizen because the secretary of state of The United States has all final authority over all matters concerning citizenship.   That stuck in my mind for fifteen years until I looked at that piece of paper. And there it is right at the top, secretary of state. And in those days, I've still got a copy of that around here somewhere.   At those days, right at the first page was the warning box   because the where you sign,   where it would mean something to you is that the opposite end of the four pages of documents in the application,   they never referred to it at all. It just had warning.  

You can attach documentation,   comma,   including affidavits,   comma, but you better not lie or we're gonna hit you with seven sections of the United States code.   So I saw the word affidavit. Right above it is secretary of state. I said, my god. I've got these guys.   Finally. That's where it came from right there. The reason we're here today is because that happened.  

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K?   Yeah.   Yeah.   Well, I have two more quick questions.  

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So you ask him you ask him. Here's what you ask your or lawyer friend attorney friend. Yeah. What are they telling you to attach documents for that are so severe they're gonna send you to jail if you lie on them? So they never tell you what for. They just tell you you can't. Right. So what what is that? And you know you know the reason for this,   Tom. Paperwork Reduction Act. Are you familiar with it? Yes. I I've heard you mentioned it on on the on the chat. This is for the other students. K? Then we got some new folks around here these days. I hope.   Watergate,   like, we're about to have another one.  

We're right on the verge. Roger, you're blowing the interrupt. Blowing the lids. Just so you know.   Pardon me? Go pardon me? Go who what?  

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But just in case because you keeps wondering if we're here. You got 30 of us listening, and, you got a lot of your other people listening. I know that for a fact. So go. We love you. Okay. Todd, meet Tom. Okay. So anyway,   Tom, I actually messaged you because I like your thinking and I think I can help a lot. We don't I don't know if we really have to go towards lawyers or attorneys unless they have good hearts and they wanna free themselves. Well, what is it? Being free.  

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Right. Well,   Tom here is fairly new and came around curiosity.   He's a very analytical guy, obviously looking for proof, and he's got a friend   out there in the LA area who's an attorney. And, obviously, these attorneys don't wanna know they're working in a fiction.   Okay? Most of them. Some of them would love to, but most of them don't because it threatens their whole damn career potentially to them.   So, anyway, I've kinda forgotten where I was, Tom, but it it goes back this '14 I completely apologize. Well, that no, that's okay, Todd. That's okay. So it goes You were talking about the OMB number? Right. Okay. So the OMB number came out of Watergate   and the after Watergate with the constant of,   of, of, let's get transparency,   transparency.  

One of the ledge piece of legislation is called the paperwork reduction act.   You may have heard of it. It said there's a section in the instructions   of the passport say paperwork reduction act. And then it used to say, I think they've changed this too.   You'll like this, Tom. It said,   we have to follow these instructions on the paperwork reduction act. And often, this is difficult to do because our citizenship   laws are very complex.   They actually said that in the damn instructions. And when I saw it, I called Glenn. He was out of jail. I read it to Glenn. He goes, boy, I'll say they're complex. They sent you to jail for nine and a half years for just trying to teach them.   So anyway, that's, where this came from. And, the paperwork reduction act means that any agency   that puts out a p any kind of paper requesting information from the public, it's called an information   gathering   request.  

So if an agency is putting out a piece of paper that it it seeks information from the public, they've got to run it through OMB,   Office of Management and Budget, and it goes through a very strict checklist   that meets all the requirements to be constitutional.   And when it goes through and meets those checks, they issue it an OMB number. And when they issue an OMB number, then they can put it out in the public.   So that that's one of the reasons I'm sure they changed this thing. They had to cover their ass as quick as possible when and so if you have any doubts about them listening, hell, that was ten, ten, twelve years ago. Okay.   Yeah. So, they went in and changed it and put that checkbox in there. I have read and understand the warning box on page so and so the instructions   to cover their slaving   asses is why they did that.  



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Right.  

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So that that has happened. It was their reaction, and I think it shows you you're on track. You could also   tell your,   tell your attorney friend. They take passport fraud really   seriously.   Now have you heard that story? Okay. They take it very seriously. Like, post office guys take screwing with the post office very seriously. Okay?   And,   Yeah. So,   that,   that tells you right there when you   apply any piece of paper. By the way, on the bottom of that   citizen,   certificate of noncitizen   nationality,   there's a one sentence   disclaimer. Did you see that?  

I'm on the page right now. You said Okay. Well, at the bottom of the paragraph, I call it fluff   because all we're doing is   rebutting the presumption.   But they've got an example in there above this sentence. You wanna read it? Which one is it? It's a bottom paragraph   on the page.  

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And any person who becomes a citizen of The United States solely by virtue of the provisions in section three zero one? Yes.   May within six months after the effective date of that section or within six months after reaching the age of 18 years,   whichever date is later, become a national but not a citizen of The United States by making a declaration under oath   before any court established by the constitution or laws of The United States   or any other court of record in the Commonwealth in the form   as follows, I, being duly sworn, hereby declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. That's all you need to send him right there.  

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Now what I think is going on here is I believe in the states specifically, that's for Northern Mariana Islands.   And I think that somehow Northern Mariana Islands used to be incorporated with American Samoa in this,   non birthright citizenship stuff. I've I've that's why I'm speculating. But in the end analysis,   knowing what we know that all you're doing is rebutting a presumption   that's been with you since you were born,   That that one sentence rebuts the presumption. So, Todd, you and your gang, you wanna know how simple getting out of this is?   That sentence, I,   Todd,   do solemnly swear United   States.  

You're out. That's breaking the presumption.   That's all you got to do. You don't have to get in. I know you've been studying legal stuff for a while, and you wanna show how much you know, and you wanna go, this is sui juris and pro propaper sauna, and you wanna use all the legal worms and show how smart you are. Don't do that.   Just use that one sentence if you wanna make it simple. I, whatever your name is, do solemnly swear my intent   to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. That's all you need to send them.   Get it notarized,   send it. You're golden.  

That's why they're so paranoid. This is why   every time anybody   sticks up and challenges these guys,   they try and bang the nail down as quick as possible.   They realize what this is fraud and how simple it is to get out of it, and they don't ever want anybody standing up that can gather momentum   and possibly find this. Well, we got it now. K?   All you're doing is breaking the presumption that was set upon you at birth   because of a fraudulent bankruptcy.   And it's fraud after   fourteenth amendment that Congress was never brought back in fraud.   But, the the the the 1916,   nineteen thirteen, the the,   sixteenth amendment, seventeenth amendment. All of it's damn fraud. Okay? And then that's why one of the reasons they've got to recognize this.  

So where else, Tom, do you got any comments or questions on that? Yes.  

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Quick quick couple of questions is I I found where in The US code, it says The United States is a federal corporation.   Is there a location of proof where it says, The United States is located in the District of Columbia?  

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I don't know. I've never looked into all that stuff. Most company in most countries are formed as corporations.   We've talked about this with Brent on Fridays before.   That's not a big deal to me like it is to other people.  

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Yeah.   And then,   is there a definition of The United States Of America   where it says it's   Yes. The the unit the Yes. 28  

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USC   section seventeen   forty six.   Your attorney friend will recognize this.   Those are called jurats.   We refer to them as,   penalties of perjury,   and they've got one within The United States   and one without The United States.   And the one without The United States says United States Of America,   and the one within The United States just says United States.   That's the federal one.   K? So, yeah, even not only does it give you the distinction,   it gives you the distinction in the very important area of called juror hats or penalties of perjury,   or you could say under seal. They also say under seal. You know? There's a word referred to is a way to legally refer to that. Roger, can I ask Tom a question? Yeah. Go ahead, please.  



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Hey. Thank you so much. Hey. Nice to meet you, Tom. Hey.   Hey. I just feel I like your mind, the way you're thinking. I just had a couple of quick questions.   Do   are you did you do the are you,   are you free yet? Did you get free?  

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Yes. I filed my affidavit with the Secretary of State and all my notices and my passport.  

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Oh, okay. That's great, Todd. Congratulations, Tom. Congratulations,  

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dude. I just wanted to say one more thing. The the thing I was texting you about, Tom, is well, first, I wanted to tell you I   dude, but I'm pretty savvy with this,   the USB codes and the, lots of stuff you're asked to Roger. If you can't get all your questions out, I'd love to talk to you.   And congratulations on your freedom. I don't think people realize   what that really means and what I am. Kind of role you're playing at a higher level, and you gotta walk in honor. I mean, I don't think they realize what's going on here. Yeah. You know?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I've heard Mirka say that, and I thought it was one of the best things I've heard that there's a responsibility.   If you get your if if you're a national and now you get your rights from God and not the government,   you have to You're unalienable  

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rights. Did you ever read those or the amendments? I'm doing that on my Discord. I go through everybody's state and say, listen. Now you're not the state of New York. You're Massachusetts State. Why don't you get into their constitution because they're the ones that are protecting you now? Learn your amendments. Learn your unalienable   rights. It's powerful after knowing all that. You walk around with your head up. You fear no man, but you're still walking in honor. You you take on the mantle of total personal self responsibility.  

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Right.   Right.   Okay. And it's inspiring because it it almost it almost requires you to be,   more moral   and have a higher character and and walk with that responsibility. Yeah. It absolutely does.  

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And that's why TikTok. Really in the system.  

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Help other people get free. Right. And I  

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insist on on people learning the information. I can't make you learn it. You can just go file paper more about your life if you want. But should you do that?   It's quite detrimental on you   because nothing changes.   You've got to be the change here.   The the the world's not gonna change. They're not athlete until there's,   millions of us, they're not gonna change. But you've got to be the change. And the only way you're gonna change is to input the information   and replace truth with the crap you   like, oh, I'm free. I'm free. Go see sing with Lee Greenwood at the basketball game. You know?  

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You're not free. You've been a slave. You've been tricks, and you gotta come out of that. Your votes don't count. You've been a slave the whole time. Your family's been you know what I yeah. Absolutely.   I mean, people don't know the power they have that they can go help others. When I say help others get free, I mean, that means you get free from   if somebody's wrongly in jail, court. If somebody has their kid tell tell me you don't hear this every day from people who are suffering. They took my kid.   They think it's their baby. I can't even do use my own blood because of 2020. I'm a little worried. I don't know if they're using they wanna use theirs, and they say they have to because they own the kid.  

This is ridiculous. Yeah. It is. Kids are missing they're in jail for no victimless crimes.   The   the, you know, even the courts, even the judge some judges, believe it or not, and cops are good, and they just need help with learning what's going on for the truth and still reading their oath. They learned how to beat and shoot. Yep.   It's all programming.  

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This, have,   Todd and your group may not have heard you're talking about children and Tom, you too.   Have you heard Sarah's story,   with Colorado with CPS?   We we've got it on the website somewhere. I got Some Yeah. If you haven't heard that right now that you went through that with you. You And, you know, you talked about it. Tell tell me of any other example you've ever heard about these people getting their their child out of the clutches to CPS.   I mean, I've heard Robert Barnes,   Robert Barnes referred to it as the single worst agency in Washington DC is these people.  

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Oh  

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gosh. So nobody's ever gotten there. What was the baby Sarah   baby?   When Cyrus up there in Idaho a couple years ago where the grandfather's   a big patriot, and they take the grandson and they had thrown it through all these administrative   hearings with some   US judge and all that. I don't remember what. They finally got some sort of a resolution out of it. But if they'd known this, they wouldn't had the problem in the first place.  

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When everybody learns that we don't have to fight the United States government because that's not what it's supposed to be, everything's actually in place, we're just consenting and being chosen. We chose. We have dual citizenship. We chose to be The United States citizen. We're all in Washington like every 50 states is. They're just sitting there with no all the offices empty and all The US citizens sitting in Washington, DC.   I'm surprised the Washington the country doesn't sink. There's so much shit in Washington, DC. It should sink all the way down a 100 feet into the ground. It's Sodom and Gomorrah on the Potomac. No doubt about it. And,  

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so anyway, that's a very powerful   powerful thing here, especially for people with children. You want to get their attention. I can totally insulate you from CPS with your family,   play in a Sarah's story. I mean, there's three attorneys in that room.   There's three attorneys, the administrator of the hospital and the CPS official in that room.   Sarah walked in through their through her affidavits down to admit her statements,   and they said step out of the room for five minutes. They came out and said you and your daughter are free to go. Have you ever heard of anything? So a little bit. Happening like that? I think no.   Why? And why? See, here's why.  

We preemptively   defeat their presumption   with the app Audibly. When it's filed. Now you get into these situations.   You pull that out. There's no kind of attachment because you've preemptively   broken that presumption.  

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No. And then out of the jurisdiction.   Well, that You don't have to shut gold court and fight jurisdiction   anymore.   Well, okay. You are in trouble.  

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That that that administrator,   that hospital, those attorneys   knew that if they didn't make that decision,   they could take them to the cleaners   big time.  

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Mhmm. That's why that happened. Let's get her polish her up so they don't know we'd meet her and get them back to them right now. Hurry up, guys. Boom.  

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Anyway, we've had some proof over the years.   But, you know, we had a guy on here from LA. He was an actor guy. Ryan was his name years ago, and he he came on here. He says, well,   where are some of your victory   papers?   I'd never had anybody ask that before or since, really.   And so I had to think about it for a minute. I said,   we don't really have any of those   because we never get challenged.   Now we've had a few subsequently,   Joe Lustica,   who almost took his city back there in New Jersey, And all of a sudden, the officials there go, let please let's drop these charges. And then knees are knocking.   He was gonna take over the city. He could've taken over that entire city and turned it back over to the citizens.  

So, yeah, we've had some proofs, but for the most part,   there are no proofs because we're in the right and everybody does what does what we want them to do.   Occasionally, it's Well, the yeah. On the track Go go ahead, Tom. Let's get back to you here. See, you had a couple other questions.  

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Yeah. Well, I was just gonna say the the track record is the is   the final arbiter Yep.   Or whether this is true or not. And that's what's so powerful about your radio show and the work that that you and Paul do to document it. That's the ultimate,   yeah, way way to know whether this is true or not. Well, our best thing question is Hold on. Let me tell you. I'm Marty Samuel, Dela Californian  

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for you up there north   and came in. So when are we gonna see some court cases with nationals in there? Do you really think they're ever gonna let this issue get into a court?  

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Right.  

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I mean, do you really? Are you that naive?  

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Roger They'll go over it with, state citizen, Roger, not Nash not just a state citizen,  

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Capital c. Okay. Well, if you wanna see state citizen, you can go back in the old court cases. It's replete.   There is in all kinds of court cases back in the eighteen hundreds.   Hi, Roger. Yeah. Good morning. Is that Gigi? Is it my Gigi girl? Hey, girl.  

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Yes. It is. How are you? I'm still waking up. Fine.  

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If you don't mind, I have a question for Tom if he doesn't mind. Okay. Well, Tom, you wanna entertain that or get yours answered and entertain it later?  

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Yeah. Can I can I just do my last question real quick and then Yeah? Then go to the next question? Okay. Thank you.   Roger, when it says, all persons born or naturalized,   it   it it's I assume it's speaking of the geography of The United States?   Well, originally And so that's why I was asking about the location.  

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Yes. It is. And and and see, here's where after the civil war, the federalism   overrode the states.   Because really what who's the fourteenth amendment for, but former Negro slaves that were in the South mainly. K?   And and so it automatically   is talking about going into the states because they're talking about blacks that were in on southern plantations.   What they did was they took the blacks off the southern plantation,   and they put them on the federal plantation, and they were still enslaved   because the feudal system's underneath, but nobody ever knew it.  

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And then but it doesn't matter if you're not born in the District of Columbia   because your parents   are citizens, and so then you  

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In the bankruptcy,   they took all the assets of The United States. The fourteenth amendment was sitting there,   So they were already   property.   There was already people, that were object their property rights, and all they did was just include everybody in that. You wanna get that for your lawyer friend. I'm not sure where on the website it is. I know it was in my book.   Was the piece of paper that was found in Woodrow Wilson's effects that was from Colonel House.   Have you seen that, Tom?   And, of course, for those who haven't,   at the top, the very first sentence, it said we will attach them as sureties. I'm paraphrasing.  

We will attach them as sureties   by invoking the ancient pledge.   But what's the ancient pledge?   That's the oath of fealty. That's the feudal system.   So he's telling you right there what they're doing. And then it goes down through,   describing the things is and then at the bottom, it says,   but   if one or two people ever figure it out, we've got plausible deniability.   Well, Colonel House,   what about if 20 or 30 or 50,000,000   people find out about it? Do you still have plausible deniability?   Probably not. Okay.   So that's very important because it tells you what they're doing. And, of course, Beecraft writes back and goes, that's patriot mythology. Well, I'm sorry, but the whole thing spells out exactly what they're gonna do, Larry, who can't think outside the box.  



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Yeah. I guess I just don't quite get it. If you're if you're immigrants and you're going for birthright citizenship,   how is it that if you give birth in in California,  

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you become a national citizen? It's because the whole country's under bankruptcy.   You're all sure it's you. That's right. Okay.  

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Got it. And so that takes the geography   the geography it includes the whole geography? Yeah. Definitely?  

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Well, it does except for American Samoa. They're not birthright citizens. They gotta come now,   go to The US and and and immigrate,   basically   from The United States Of America to The United States   Of America   and naturalize. Yeah.   And it pisses them off. See? There's been two cases, talking court cases,   there's been two cases on this   that I know of. The first one was right after I got the book published around 02/2011.   You can go look this up.   It is called,   oh, what do they call it? Up up up   there was a plebiscite.   That's   the word I'm looking for, a plebiscite   where people in the,   country or whatever vote on something.  

And it was in American Samoa and they were trying to get birthright citizenship.   See, they're pissed off   because without birthright citizenship, they hit those ceilings I referred to earlier.   And on top of that, they can't get the all the goodies.   You gotta be a citizen of The United States to get all the goodies. They want the goodies and they can't get them and they don't know why. Mhmm. K? Mhmm. And we've had American Samoans on the program before. I I don't remember his name. He's from Arizona. He's been in The States thirty years, and it's his,   family   that's gonna send to the,   governorship of the island. They they down there, because they have these natural rights, they own their pro their own property.  

And whoever's the biggest property owner   is runs the government and it is his family   that's getting ready to when the next change comes run American Samoa. None of them know anything about this.  

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Yeah.  

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So,   so, yes, very very very interesting that one little thing. But those people down there, they've got to naturalize, go through the however many years and go through the ceremony and do all that.   Then   they're they're giving up their national status and God given rights   to become birthright citizens.   How about that for irony?  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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So, okay, Tom, let's get on. I get off on these tangents cause we're hitting this new area and Todd's people, while many of them there are, have not even had a chance in the ten days they've been hanging around   to get into the American Samoa thing. And what they did was around nineteen o one, they took over American Samoa. They let they had a battle with Germany.   Germany   was was a Samoa. They had that territory.   The US and Germans were fighting over it. They finally, in 02/2001,   they basically, I guess, gave Samoa to Samoans,   but they took American Samoa,   which is a little island right to the east of Samoa that looks like an almond. It's very small. They got a lot of they got tuna   factories there and stuff, and,   they left it unincorporated.  

So this tells you a little peek. You wanna lift the rug up on the edge.   This shows you that they were already planning to do what they did in 1940   in nineteen o one when they set up American Samoa.   This shows you how far these guys think ahead. Okay?   And so they set it up. It's not incorporated.   It's never been incorporated.   So all the people there have natural god given rights.   Because it's not a incorporated member of the federal government,   they've got these rights,   and they don't give them birthright citizenship. Now that here's where I was going. It's been taken to the supreme court, at least tried twice.   The first time was this plebiscite thing. And when the plebiscite didn't work, you can go look it up, plebiscite   American Samoa, you'll get the story.  

By the way, where do you think you're speaking how the federal government works here.   Do you know who's got the authority over American Samoa, Tom? I'm I mean, it's a rhetorical question. I know you don't know.   Who's got the authority over American Samoa where they send a representative   down to the islands for that plebiscite?   The Department of the Interior?   That's where they gave authority to America, the Department of the Interior?   Well, let's look a 180 degrees at the answer. Okay? I mean, yeah, when you start picking this thing apart, you really learn how these guys work.   Okay. So anyway, they sent a representative down there and after that and they voted no. And then they got PO'd and they tried to take a case to the Supreme court because their territory,   it had to go through Washington DC.  

So it it it got up to where they,   they were ruled against at the district court. They ruled against at the appellate level, and then they applied for certiorari, which is the supreme court, and supreme court wouldn't take the case. If they'd have taken this case, it'd blown the whole thing wide open.   Then a couple of years ago,   out of,   Utah where a bunch of them go and they were tired of being restricted from, going up the ladder or wherever they were doing, so they got an American Samoan attorney.   And, they filed a case in this is very interesting.   District court of Salt Lake City,   and the judge ruled in their favor.  

Within twenty four hours, there was two amicus curie briefs   that were submitted to the court. One was from the federal government, and the other was from American Samoa.   And I predicted at the time here I sound like Alex Jones now. I predicted at the time here   that, that they it wouldn't get past the tenth circuit.   Lo and behold,   it got overturned at the tenth circuit.   Yeah.   K. So, anyway, there's a couple of examples when people did try and get it in the courtroom. They're not gonna let this in court. Yeah. Right.   Yeah. There's Samuel again. Let let me just see. Tom, you got any comment on that?  



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No. I thank you so much for your time and your feedback. I'm gonna keep working on my end, and I yeah. I'm grateful for for you, and and I I listen to all the shows, and the Brain Trust here is amazing. So Oh, yeah. It is. Yeah. Thanks thanks to everybody. Okay. Now did that get all your questions?  

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Yes. Okay. Well, Samuel, I'm gonna go to you, but Gigi was first. Go ahead,   Samuel, to get you out of the way. What you got? Yeah. This has to has to do with the question.  

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When you're talking   about these guys   looking at different territories and, jurisdictions, etcetera, you gotta look at what United States they're talking   distinctions.   It's   The case is called Hoven   and Ellison versus   Abbott.   And   there you're going to see the differences   and which one you were born into, etcetera.   Sorry. I'm losing my voice.  

[01:05:29] Unknown:

I'll yield.  

[01:05:31] Unknown:

Todd, you remember the other day we're talking about Black's Law dictionaries. You said you had an eight.   Well, I think it's in six, the green cover where if you go to The United States, they'll have this site that Samuel's talking about.   And the seventh forward, they've taken it out. Okay? And it just says basically,   well, this term has several meanings. Are you talking about The United States like in the United Nations?   Are you talking about The United States as in the federal government? Or are you talking about The United States as a whole country?   But they took that out. K?  

But they didn't negate the case, obviously. They just took it out of blocks.   But, yeah, this term has several meetings that it goes right back to Tom's question.  

[01:06:13] Unknown:

Which one? Yeah. One is the person that played Washington DC.  

[01:06:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Am I not a person? That's no it's which person am I? So it's same thing. Which United States are we talking about here? K?  

[01:06:26] Unknown:

Exactly. Everything's an entity.  

[01:06:28] Unknown:

Yep.   And they're just sneaky. These guys are just sneaky.   I mean, they really are. K? Well, money in the world that Steve has never thought that we would ever figure it out, but look where we are. That's well, that was for colonel House's statement. If one or two people figure it out, we got plausible deniability. Well, sorry, buddy. You ain't got that. That's long gone.  

[01:06:49] Unknown:

We got your ass fixed. That in a few things I read, but   they never they never thought we'd figure this out, and we did.   We need as many people to do this to get free because when you're free, your vote counts, then we can get them out of there. Well, that's I never voted before because I know my vote didn't count. Right. We just gotta get them to a point where they get this exposure  

[01:07:09] Unknown:

on a huge level of a lot of people.   Now there here's something else there. Now, Roger. Do you know what happened yesterday   with the IRS? No.  

[01:07:18] Unknown:

So Anybody? Nobody knows. Some people get I do. I do. I do. I do. Julie,   what happened with the IRS? The commission they fired the commissioner.  

[01:07:29] Unknown:

And who's the new commissioner?   The new one I I saw on it. I can't remember the name. Besant. They fired up. Besant. He made Besant not only the secretary of the treasury, but he's over the IRS. He was over it anyway,   but now he's the commissioner.   So he's the secretary of the treasury   and the commissioner of IRS.   Now some people say and Trump has said he wants to get rid of the IRS. I'm begging him not to. Hell, they're my best recruiter for God's sakes.  

[01:08:00] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. I got a quick question. Did you say,   Descent? Like, as an example, Desante? Because or do you mean Mark Rubio? Only because I asked if he's from the same area, Mark Rubio's secretary. Vers Bassant  

[01:08:12] Unknown:

is the ex Soros   employee. Okay. Who was named the secretary of the treasury. Now if you go into The United States code,   I think again, it's title 28. I don't remember the section,   but there's a statement. The secretary of the treasury   is the governor of the fund.   He's not paid by The United States.   He's paid by the International Monetary Fund.   The governor of the fund. What fund? The International Monetary Fund, which holds the bankruptcy.   If you're gonna take over a country   through this approach, you're gonna bankrupt the country,   then you gotta have control of the money and you gotta have control of the laws, don't you? Well, the Department of Justice is the same way.  

Pam Bondi works for the International Monetary Fund,   just like Barr used to. When Trump was being in that election and they were going to Barr, go, why can't you find any fraud? There's fraud everywhere. He goes, well, it's due to certain internal policies of the justice department.   Really? Like what?   Like, you're attached to the International Monetary Fund, and they don't want your fraud exposed? Is that what's going on? Exactly.   Now they did that, and this is I'm a give you the source.   The great researcher named John Nelson.   Most of you have never heard of him. He hadn't been around in a while.  

They they had a contract on him evidently,   and they murdered his sister who was an attorney in DC. I don't know any details.   But John Nelson   probably still does live, if he's alive with us, in Durango, Colorado.   And at one point, he had almost the whole city of Durango,   small as it is, I'm sure, using silver as money.   And, it was John Nelson. He said they did this one in a treaty, and I don't know the treaty.   They did the secretary of the treasury on March 9 on the bankruptcy.   That's in Black's Law Dictionary   under the bank holiday of 1933,   and it tells you what happened there. Okay?  

In fact, that's the first place that regulations   came into the picture because it says the when the banks reopen,   they reopened under regulations promulgated by the secretary of the treasury. Well, they don't tell you. There was never a secretary of the treasury before then, and there weren't regulations because there weren't SERPs. So that's where the secretary of the treasury comes in, but, they did the   DOJ evidently through a treaty. I wish I had more information.   I just don't. K? But you can logically think this through. If you're gonna take over a country, you gotta have control of the money and you gotta have control of the laws.   That's why DOJ makes screwy ass decisions   that don't seem like they should be making,   especially here with, blondie, blondie.  

Now   do we Samuel back. We got that covered?   I'll get into some of these details, see, and I forget where we started.   But I do know that Gigi is hanging in the wings, and we don't wanna let her hang out to dry too long. So, Gigi, what was your question?  

[01:11:31] Unknown:

If if you don't mind getting Tom back on. I just had a question.   Tom. He hadn't gone anywhere. Yep. I'm here. I'm here. Hey. So, Tom, I know you said that you,   sent out your   affidavits and your cover letters and stuff to all three departments. Correct?  

[01:11:48] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:11:48] Unknown:

Okay. So did you   in the process, did you get your passport before you sent it off   to,   the other two departments, which would be the IRS and the   attorney general, or  

[01:12:03] Unknown:

did you wait until you sent them all off at I I waited until I got my passport back, but I as I understand it, I didn't have to do that. No. You didn't. Oh,  

[01:12:15] Unknown:

so   do you know if,   on your passport, did it change your status when you when you redid it? Did you go in? You're never gonna see it. You're never gonna see that, Gigi.  

[01:12:27] Unknown:

Some people say it's got stars and this, and we do know there are some numerical sequences on the card   that will designate Mhmm. O nine,   o o nine. Mhmm. If you go look at the internal documents, it's on our website on how they put those things on there. They will list o nine as American Samoan.   This is why I wanted y'all to be aware of this, you new folks, because you get this confused because you see noncitizen nationally. Yeah. Well, that's me. Well, no. It's not.   They took the American Samoans intentionally   and gave them that designation   so they could hide national   behind them.  

There's the American Samoans or non citizen national,   and we're just nationals,   and they hide us behind them. And I've actually seen this work   with a guy, our friend our Dave buddy here knows him from the old days. He's a host on RBN.   His name is Ron Avery.   Do not ever follow this guy. He had me on for an hour. First of all, you you think you can go over this in an hour with eight eight or ten minutes of spots? There's no way to cover this in an hour.   So I was on there. He didn't believe it from the start. He was just trying to appease his audience.   And so he gets us on there and he didn't know I had a show on RBN on Tuesday, Sunday nights at that point. And so we got to the end or to the first. I said, listen, I'm not gonna be able to explain this, but I've got this program over here. So if you'll come over Sunday night, we can extend this show, and I'll show you all this, this stuff. He goes, okay. We'll come Sunday night,   and he the board guy calls him, and he won't answer the phone.  

He comes on. He said, well, he does not answer his phone. I said, well, keep calling him. So finally, he picked up, and he goes, no. I, I canceled. Well, no. You didn't cancel. He never sent me any cancellation or anything. And so Dave knows him. And, Dave called him after that. He said, why don't you go on Roger's show? And he said, I didn't wanna argue with him. So then he comes out and he tells his his audience,   no. Roger's wrong. The national is America is is noncitizen   national. They're American Samoans.   So he literally bought the head fake. This is a guy that supposedly knows the law and he had two cases taken to the Texas Supreme Court and obviously he lost both of them. But he took the head fake right there in front of his audience.  

They put the American Samoans there, call them noncitizen   because they are, so they could hide the national status   behind them.   It's very important. Don't take the head fake on that.  

[01:15:08] Unknown:

So, Roger, I know on, probably about a week ago,   in the application in the upper right hand corner before you get down to the part of the application. Application?  

[01:15:19] Unknown:

Don't write in there. Yeah. Don't write in there. Excuse me?   Do not write in there.   Doesn't it I think that's for official use only.   Just for the passport application. No. No. No. No.  

[01:15:34] Unknown:

No. It's the part where you had on your website, the eight fam and,   the barriers, and,   you said there was a box,   that you check off   on there at the in at the top. No. I don't I never said that.  

[01:15:50] Unknown:

All I've ever said is include an affidavit in with the in with the don't   write in anything that says official area only.   All you gotta do, the only way you can official area. Okay. The only way you can screw this up the only way you can mess this up with a capital f is to not include the affidavit in with the package.   Okay. Alright?   Otherwise, the actual   answer everything honestly.   Do not lie to them.   It's a very simple form. They ask you if your parents were citizens of The United States. If they hadn't filed an affidavit, they were. So check yes.   Okay. Am I right?  

Otherwise, not answer honestly. Include the affidavit in with the package,   and you shouldn't have any problems.  

[01:16:36] Unknown:

Perfect. Okay? Yeah. I see Mark here today too.  

[01:16:41] Unknown:

Oh, is Mark with us today?  

[01:16:43] Unknown:

Argh, are you here? Yeah.  

[01:16:45] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm here. I come in late. Well, hey, man. Welcome. Being in Venetos.  

[01:16:50] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:16:51] Unknown:

Well Well, in a while yourself. Well, it is. Well, I want you because I gotta go get some water, I want you to introduce yourself. Okay. And then I'm gonna be gone for just a second. Okay?  

[01:17:02] Unknown:

Alright. Alright. Well,   my name's Mark. And, I go by Mark, all caps,   because your name in all capital letters does not   convey jurisdiction.   So,   I'm a practicing paralegal.   I've,   my my research and writing has been responsible for winning four   excuse me, four state appeals in four different states   in four different areas of law. So I've got a a broad knowledge of how to do research and so forth. And so,   I I came up into the,   I guess, ranks of the truth seekers,   through Dan Medder in 1999.   And then,   I just kind of left   that that whole scene because,   you had these patriots who believe that the gold French flag met Admiralty Law and a bunch of other nonsense   and not that they you know, they're well meaning, people believe that are well meaning, but it's just not true.  

And I used to say the same thing until my eyes got opened to what was going on.   And   so I just kind of walked away from that whole   group   and an acquaintance of mine, Chuck had   started telling me about Roger's materials.   And Roger this and Roger that and so on and so forth.   And he really was trying to get me connected with Roger because of my paralegal background.   And,   I just was like, yeah. Yeah. It's another patriot. You know, it's my was my attitude.   And so,   I had co hosted,   for, I don't know, about nine months.   I co hosted a show on RBN with Ralph Winter Road who   passed away here a couple of years ago.  

And   so I guess this has been,   wow I'm trying to think now, I guess it's been more than a couple of years ago he passed away with covid.   So anyway I'm sitting at home, it's a Sunday evening when Ralph's show used to be on.   And   I said, I wonder who took Ralph's spot? It was about a year after Ralph had passed away.   And I tuned in and there was Roger.   He was, had that time slot.   And I started listening to Roger and I was like, I think this guy's on to something.   And then I discovered, you know, he had a daily show and I started joining that and was in a position where I could, you know, join daily and   and   had my own schedule that I could write and work around   and so   and then the you know it just all started clicking together. Roger had all the missing pieces of the puzzle   He had all the law to back up his his position   and the, you know, the light bulb come on. I was like, Oh my gosh, this is it. And then the one day when Roger explained the feudal system   and how that we're born into this feudal system but we can voluntarily   opt out of it that was my happy dance day that was the final piece of the puzzle   that made total sense to me.  

And so   I was ecstatic and   you know started consuming Rogers material and information and   try to help people the best I can   and here lately   what I've been doing since about March is I started a   class on trust   and you know if you're going to get into this it's not just for this battle   but you know to help give yourself a layer of protection   you really don't want to be owning property in your name. You want that property in the name of a trust   so that whatever might happen to you whether it be an automobile accident or a lawsuit or whatever   could be government interference   they can't attach your property.  

So that's what I've been doing we went through two classes now and I know   that Brent Winters   is,   I don't know if he's teaching a class or if it's pre recorded   but I know that there's   Paul had put together a group   that, is going through his information right now. So,   anyway, that's a little bit about me. I've been practicing   paralegal since 02/2001.   So a little over, what,   twenty four years now.  

[01:21:31] Unknown:

Something like that. You're welcome,  

[01:21:35] Unknown:

Mark. Thank you, Tom.   Funnier than I thought it was. Can I ask you a question? Before Hold on a second. Tom is just possible for putting Roger in that time slot is my understanding. So Yeah. Tom, do you I just I feel like it was the   I I just feel like it's the providence of God that,   you know, I'm sitting here and on a Sunday evening, not doing much of anything. And the the thought,   right, that's the unction of the Holy Spirit says, I wonder who took Roger's spot.   And, of course, I tuned in, and there's Roger. And then I discovered later that that was the Roger sales that my friend Chuck was trying to get me connected with. That's where I was going. So, you know, apparently, it was meant to happen.   I mean, Chuck pestered me. He and he had every right to, but he pestered me. I'm like, oh, this is just another one, those Patriot belongings. I don't want no part of it. Yeah. Yada yada yada. And Chuck goes, but it's so simple. It's so simple, you know. And I've seen all the junk from   people like David Strait and some of these other people, Annabon Wright and so forth.  

And I just didn't want any piece of that at all, you know.   And then,   and then, like I said, I just feel like it's the province of God for me to have found Roger and RBN. And, as they say, the rest is history.  

[01:22:57] Unknown:

Yep. We're happy to have him. Go, Mark. Have him.  

[01:23:00] Unknown:

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Good to be here. Sorry. Was that you, Roger?  

[01:23:04] Unknown:

Yes. I was chiming in. Just saying. I'm tickled the bill. Okay. See, the two editions,   for years, it was just me. Okay? And I was having to run everything and all this stuff. And and, the the two big additions, of course, are Mark and Paul.   And,   you know, I gotta believe God sent them to me. K? So,   they added tremendous,   parameters and and depth to the program   and just tickle the more we grow to have the expertise Mark's learned over the years. And, also, Paul, look at Paul with all his wizardry wizardry   on the electronic and technical stuff. So, anyway, now somebody I'll get out of the way. Does somebody have questions for Mark or comments?  



[01:23:47] Unknown:

This was Gigi.   So, Mark,   I've been on the show.   I was invited by Todd,   with his group.   And,   I had   went over a situation,   with Roger and he told me to reach out to you. Okay. He thought that my situation was a little bit unique and,   he referred me to you.   So   my question is, I went ahead and sent off my,   first letter and cover letter, affidavit and cover letter already to the state department.   Okay. But I was letting,   Roger know on the show about a week ago   that I was pulled over here in Michigan   by the police,   and I've been just pretty much gangstopped  

[01:24:39] Unknown:

from there from this point on. This is the ex post facto part of the story, Mark. Okay. Go ahead. Objection.  

[01:24:46] Unknown:

Yeah. So,   I had a passport,   a national well, I'm not sure what it was,   but,   I presented them with the passport because they were   talking about arrest   arresting me   if I didn't get them identification   and things of that nature. It was late at night,   and I told them was they registered to do business with me because my name is registered.   And I asked them where they registered, and they said, well, we work for the state. This is our property. You're on our territory, whatever.   They end up busting out my window,   when I went to pick up. I asked to speak to a supervisor prior to that happening.  

The supervisor then   instructed them to bust my window out because I picked up my phone and said I'm gonna call my attorney.   They   proceeded to pull me out of the vehicle,   while I was in my seat belt And,   they were like, stop resisting. Stop resisting. And I'm just standing there, like I'm like, are you serious? Like,   you know? And so they,  

[01:25:55] Unknown:

Gigi, they tried to pull you out of the car and you still had your seat belt on?  

[01:26:00] Unknown:

Yeah.   So they actually bust my window out and open the vehicle from the inside   because I have a Mercedes, so you you can't open it from the outside. You I will have to open it from the inside.   And then he was mad because I wouldn't   pull pull my window all the way down. I I had it cracked.   And I said, well, I can hear you and you can hear me. I don't feel safe rolling my window all the way down.   So because I was asking them a gang of questions,   they proceeded to do what they did.   They didn't have a female officer come and,   pat me down and search me and,   pretty much took me to,   they arrested me,   searched my vehicle,   had it impound,   took me to their station, fingerprinted me, took my picture, all that,   and kept my property   at their precinct,   and then took me to county where I had to get fingerprinted again   and picture taken again.  

When I went when I got out the next day,   I went to the precinct to get my belongings. They told me I had to pay to get that before I can go get my vehicle. Did that.   I asked for where I can pick up the police report. The detective then comes out and say, oh, you can't get a police report because until the case is closed. I said, well,   that's   that's violating my due process. I said, how am I supposed to be able to,   argue what whatever was said   in in court. And it was like, well, you can't get the police report until after the case is closed.   So I've gotten arrested four different times from this particular judge,   and he kept calling that department to come and pick me up.  

So they put me down they have it down for,  

[01:27:54] Unknown:

resisting arrest. Why did they arrest you four times? Why did they arrest you for four times? So I heard it appear?  

[01:28:01] Unknown:

I went, and he arrested me. The first time I went, he didn't.   He was threatening to, put me in jail because I kept objecting to things that he was saying, the judge.   Okay.   Then I didn't go back. No. I went back again.   He locked me up for contempt of court.   Then I didn't go back. Then when I went back again,   he locked me up for contempt again.   Now   since then, he's created, like, three different cases,   with the same charges.   Everything that I've sent in affidavits for them to,   answer back, they acquiesce. So at this point in time,   they   have this fake warrant on their   page,   on their which is that business is closed because I pulled them up on Duns And Bradstreet,   and   the court that I went to is out of business,   and they're operating out of another,   name.  

I haven't gotten any more,   solicitations   in the mail from them in a while.   So,   I just wanna clear my record   so that I can get my passport because they end up having the passport people take my passport.  

[01:29:26] Unknown:

Now she's back into the situation where the guy from California was.   She applies, and they keep her money and reject her for application   because she's got these charges lurking in the background.   So you can see this why I sicced her sicced her on you, Mark. It's a really convoluted situation,   and I'm still waiting to hear what kind of a bank of, court  

[01:29:51] Unknown:

goes bankrupt and doesn't operate anymore. Yeah. They're still in the same building, but operating under another name. But,   when I pulled up their Duns and I even reported them to Duns and Broad Street,   and they didn't do anything.   And I seen that I got the printout that they're out of business and they're open they're operating under another name.   And I've been working with Merka as well   before   I didn't know you were coming on the show today. So I've been just kinda, like, you know, still continuing on putting in my affidavits   and see what happens   now that I'm trying to change my status.  



[01:30:31] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, I would just probably say continue with Mercka's administrative process. You know? I mean,   I'm I'm kinda in the box when it comes to   challenging,   you know, criminal complaints and so forth. And criminal criminal,   law is not my specialty. I'm more into the civil   side of law. Okay.   So,   you know, when you get into traffic stuff it's really   kind of a   they say it's quasi criminal but it's criminal.   It's ultimately criminal.   So,  

[01:31:07] Unknown:

I I don't know why you got pulled over to begin with, but, you know They told me because of my private plate. Yeah. So they pulled me over for my private plate. Then when I gave them my identification,   it went they escalated it. Okay. What private plate is Jasmine?  

[01:31:23] Unknown:

Gigi, what what did you have the DOT number?  

[01:31:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Mhmm. And they took those.  

[01:31:31] Unknown:

Oh my lord. Well, they they're tromping all over you. Go ahead, Mark.  

[01:31:35] Unknown:

Well, you know, to me, one of the quickest ways you could potentially handle it is   remove it to federal court   and you got a DOT number on the car that it's non commercial   and you could but you got to remove it within so many days. Now so far I haven't met anybody that's been in the position that we could do that with.   You know? So   you got to challenge jurisdiction right up front if you show up in court and you answer or respond   without   making note that you're there under special appearance only  

[01:32:11] Unknown:

then you wait  

[01:32:12] Unknown:

okay well good good so yeah I did that Okay. Well, then you got you could potentially file a motion to dismiss  

[01:32:20] Unknown:

based on a jurisdictional challenge, whether they have jurisdiction over you or not. He he said he wasn't doing nothing. It was his court, and it goes the way he wants it to go.  

[01:32:30] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I said I said the wrong court. You're in the wrong jurisdiction.   You're not listening to what I'm saying.   Is you follow so this is where where,   pro seis who who aren't trained   in the art of law just don't know what they're doing in court.   Now there's an administrative side where you just file notices   and you never file an answer you never you know   you're not you're not moving the court to do anything and you're trying to stay outside of their jurisdiction. That's one approach is to try to do it administratively.   Where my my   my approach is where I can do it inside the court. The last the last   appeal that I won was in Texas and it was on jurisdiction.  

And   and so I filed a motion to dismiss upfront,   this is in a state court,   and they denied it. And   fortunately the attorney   off the bat before I got involved   had been making special appearances   every document every court hearing he would do it under special appearance   and so   the   my client who kept asking his attorney,   he goes, well file a motion to dismiss if they don't have jurisdiction. His attorney was like, well it doesn't work like that. Well yeah it does work like that and the attorney wanted to carry the whole thing out   you know arguing that they're there under special appearance so he could make money   and then appeal it. Yeah.  

You know that's ridiculous.   So cut it off right at the pass and so   there was three   claims against the   gentleman   and two of those were dismissed and the court was really leaning to dismiss the last one but the third and final claim was only valued at maybe $900   And so eventually   we won the two big claims that were like well over $100,000   and   the third claim which was a tort,   you know actual damage   for interfering with their business allegedly.   It was only valued at maybe $900   and so eventually they dropped that and   the big corporation   dropped their entire case.  

So I know a little bit about jurisdiction   and but my approach is a little bit more inside the box   and when it comes to the driving   I'm like you know   these guys are just bandits they want your money.   They're dying to fight. And having   having a tag on your car   and having a driver's license   does not waive your status.   You know, now if you're just bound and determined to take it take that battle on then you know more power to you but you're gonna you're fighting a very big uphill battle   and I'd rather not waste my time and energy trying to overcome that system.   And I'll support anybody who is you know, trying to do that. And I'll say God bless you.  

We may all be in your shoes someday   having to deal with driving issues or traveling issues. Right?   But there is a case from the Supreme Court that says   while you have the right to travel, the states have a right to regulate it, even if you're a non resident alien.   Now, I had to look that case up again so I don't have it on the top of my head.   But, they are agreeing.   I agree with that. Well, well, here's the reason why. You're you're you're in a car   and it's and it's a danger. It's a potential danger to everybody on the road.   Right?  

So   I if it doesn't affect   my status as a national   then I'm just gonna work my way through it the best that I can. The way I do it I put my car in a trust   and I register it.   Okay?   Now the DOT you can still have a DOT number   because it says you're not commercial so if you do end up getting a ticket   you could go down the non commercial path if you're ready to do that. If you got your research done and can prove that all their traffic laws are based on   you being in commerce and want to make that challenge   but what I would do   is instead of waiting for the court the state court   I would remove the federal court and file a motion to dismiss because   you weren't in commerce.  

And   their state laws are all about commerce but you've got to prove it. So far I haven't had too many people be able to prove that.   Can you prove that the traffic laws   in your state   are solely based upon   commercial   activity?   Now if you can,   then more power to you because if you're showing that you're a you're acting in a non commercial capacity   then you should be able to win that case almost every time unless you have an accident and you know, just the injury. Document  

[01:37:40] Unknown:

from the secretary yeah. I have a document from the secretary of state that states that,   I have a noncommercial  

[01:37:50] Unknown:

ID.  

[01:37:51] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's okay. But my point is,   can you prove that the the traffic whenever they wanna pull you over and give you a traffic citation or a ticket,   can you prove that all those traffic laws in   Michigan are operating under the pre pretend that you're in in a commercial   activity,   hauling cargo for pay or hauling people for pay compensation?  

[01:38:18] Unknown:

This is my feeling. This is just not a battle. On the big the big scope of what we're doing here I know this specific to you, Gigi.   But on the big scope, I   I don't think this is a battle worth fighting myself.   K? You've already beaten the beast. This is a minor thing. Pay if there's a fine or something. But the overall thing is   you're we talked about it earlier. You're taking on a new mantle   of personal responsibility when you choose to go through this process. Live it.   Don't go out and try and press the envelope to see if some cop is gonna deal with you on saying you're non you're noncommercial   and some judge.  

You get into these situations like Gigi is. If you just paid the fine from the start, you wouldn't have all these damn problems.   I'm not telling you not to do never gave me a  

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they never gave me a fine. That's the thing.  

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Oh, jeez.   Well, your your situation Well, I had to give that to you. Some reason. They can't arrest you for no good cause.  

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So they arrested you for some cause,   and I'm betting that's the plates on your car.  

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Mhmm.  

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Yeah.   Well, I already have a tort claim. I already filed a tort claim and the DOJ got involved. So,   in federal court.   So,   yeah. The DOJ   the DOJ reached out to me,   last year   and basically told me that the,   people that I had involved in my tort claim were private actors.   And,   he would write a stipulated order on my behalf   because I when I submitted my,   my 95 form   and my color of law and my evidence or my   exhibits,   the DOJ reached out to me   and,   asked me if I can,   get them off of my tort claim.   And I said, well, it wasn't meant for you guys to be on my tort claim, but I said it said to reach out to   a   federal government agency. So   he   drew up a stipulated   order to have them removed and to keep the   private   actors on the,   tort claim,   which the judge federal judge still has not even,   dismissed them from it yet.  



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Wow.  

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Okay.  

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So,   I've I've done   I have plenty of I've done   plenty of, research and pulled up   plenty of evidence   to present in court to win. So,   at this point, I'm pretty much not worried about it. I was just waiting for   you to come on just so you can   see,   so I can share the story with you.   Okay. Because Roger   pretty much asked me to talk to you when you came back. So,  

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you you got to the point where you're saying poor try the business. I said, I think you need to talk to Mark.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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So I think I think that the notices are gonna make it a lot stronger for you. You're gonna have more power   in,   your new status here as a private individual.   So I we just need to notice them,   everybody involved   that,   hurt you, injured you,   and,   continue with our lawful legal notices   so they don't mess with you   again,  

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because now they're Yeah. I haven't been getting them. I haven't gotten bothered by them  

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as of today. Yeah. Now they're gonna lose their cloak of immunity   if they even try to trespass   or threaten you. You can   now hold them liable, personally liable.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. I've been working with Marca,   Roger.   So we've been, like, aggressively getting on things. And like I said,   I just have to send out my last two letters to the IRS and the AG.   And from there,   we're just gonna keep moving until it's it's all settled.  

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Okay. Well, I we I wish you the best. It sounds like they just have run all over Thank you. Got a legitimate claim.   But let me also say this Yeah. Our forum here, we generally don't come on these types of situations. It's quite rare.   And, and we don't really have the expertise. We can brain trust and maybe help you, but we're here to get everybody free and maybe to help you avoid situations like this, a better way to put it. But these people are clearly out of their, lane.   Sounds like to me. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. They they just they just bulldozed over her, Roger. Yeah. And, you know, that's what they do with a lot of people. So Of course. That's what I'm gonna say. Because they're US citizens.  

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And, well, the county next door might not do this, but the county she was in did and did and does. Right. So that's why my complaint with these traffic things, I I tell you, look, you're taking on a mantle of personal responsibility,   act like it. You know? Don't drive under the speed limit a little.   Be be extra cautious when you stop at a stop sign. That's what the mantle you've taken on.   Don't try and run the stop sign when there's a cop sitting right there and go, I'm a national. And then you come back, Roger. Roger. What do I do? Don't do it in the first place.   Be responsible.  

That's part of what we are. That's the that's the game we're taking on, the rules of the game that you're,   taking on when you file that and make the decision to file that affidavit.   So Mark, by the way, is generally on with us or at least the schedule he's kind of plowed out is Wednesdays and Saturdays.   But you've got a big responsibility, and I guess yours has been a little extra heavy burden here lately too, Mark. So glad you came on. Yeah. It has,  

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ended up having both parents in the hospital and Oh my gosh. Thankfully at at different times. But,   thankfully, both of them were nonlife threatening, but, nonetheless, they had to go to hospital. And   then dad was in rehab, and we just got him back yesterday. And   the last Saturday, mom,   ended up in the hospital, and they released her on Monday. So we're,   you know, just kinda getting back into the swing of things.  

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See how things go. He's got a big burden, and, kudos to you for taking it on and doing it. I I know it's not it really is hard on on the person that is thrust into this, role.   So good on you, Mark.  

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Well, thank you. I mean, I'm   you know, we have our moments and just like every family does. And Yeah. Nobody can push your buttons like your parents can. Boy, ain't that the truth.   I do my best   then. Unfortunately, my mom has become more frail. So where   she could kind of, like, help my dad move around and get up and and move from one place to the other,   you know, go to the bathroom, you know, she she could handle that. And I was just here kind of like emergency and I would help with a little cooking and   do some stuff around the house that they didn't have to do, you know, stuff like take out the trash and   you know, just that kind of stuff. And so,   but now she's become so frail that she can't really do that and it's difficult for her to even cook.  

So,   you know, I'm really having to step up and my next my next thing is I'm gonna try to find some   some in home long term help,   and and hopefully, that'll  

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that'll free me up during the daytime. Mark, do you have mom as a beneficiary?  

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Do what?  

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Do you have mom as a beneficiary yet?  

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No.  

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You can you're the trustee and your your job is to take care of her at all costs. And you should be paid for taking taking care of that trust. No?   I don't know, and I don't wanna discuss it over the air. I can't wait to talk to you, brother. I'm so proud of you. It's a breath of fresh air. Oh. I had one thing to say. That's all. Oh, sorry, Roger. Just wanted to I've been bitten my tongue here.   It's a breath of fresh air and a miracle that you found, Roger. Thank god for Roger. And that I've been studying law for ten years, but I've been doing it in my home.   You are telling me that you are actually studying   in the in the in their system, but you have such a good soul and a good intuition   that you are learning and taking the best and leaving the rest and then getting free and freeing others. Is that what you're telling me? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And and I've got I've actually got formal education  

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in law. I've had intro to law   civil procedures one and two   you know court rules and civil procedures   I've had legal research and writing   you know I pretty much aced all that stuff and so   and other classes,   you know, that are all related to law. But that's kind of like your I've always said that if an individual really wants to get into law   and understand it and have a good direction   of how to research,   They need intro to law,   legal research and writing,   and court   rules and civil procedure.   State and federal. If you put those three things under your belt,   there's really, especially with AI now,   there's really not much that you couldn't tackle.  

It's really amazing and AI has really helped reduce my research time down tremendously.   But, yeah, thank you, Todd. I appreciate those comments,   and I,  

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you know, I'm really extremely excited to talk to you, dude. I think it's gonna be absolutely   biblical.   So I can maybe help you.  

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To I went through paralegal school too, Todd, when in Atlanta,   because I was teaching at the Art Institute of Atlanta, the music stuff, and they I could go to the paralegal school, which they own for free. So I just went over and went through that. Quite interesting.   The only time the common law was ever mentioned in the whole   deal was one sentence. Common law is case law in legal research. It's the only time it was ever mentioned. Yeah. So, anyway, I'll tell you the other thing. One of the teachers, they're all practicing attorneys, got up there, told ours our little class said, when you graduate from here, you'll know more about the law than the attorney you're working for.   Yeah.  

There you go. That's,  

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that can be true. You know, all my professors were all practicing attorneys,   and my I'm really blessed because the,   the attorney, Carl Franklin,   who taught our civil procedures   class,   he was very down to earth and was just like   back   this is kind of funny, I'm trying to think what year it was. I think it was in the early nineties.   Oh, you know, University of Oklahoma got busted. There were people selling   degrees out the back door for like $30,000   you just get a degree. They'd write it up, put you into the system.   And nobody would be the wiser. Well, they got busted.  

And   and our professor,   Carl Franklin,   he said he wished that was going on when he was there or that he knew about it. He goes, because I would have run straight to that window. He goes, because I almost used nothing that I learned out of law school Right. In the real world.   They all the courts have their own procedures. Each judge has their own ways. They like things done   and so on and so forth. And so,   you know, he said   I would have gladly paid that over having to go to law school and pay for that for three years.   And,   but anyway, it was, it was pretty funny. And unbeknownst to me when I signed up,   that Carl Franklin knew my cousin. They had done some work   in,   I think it's Lindsey, Oklahoma. Pretty bad   as far as crime and drugs and so forth.  

And so my my cousin worked with juvenile delinquents and he knew Carl Franklin.   And somehow,   I don't know how they, you know, come up with that I was in his class, but they put two and two together pretty quick.   And, but yeah, really good attorney. He had two sons and he promised his wife he wouldn't work more than I think he said like sixty hours a week.   And he said, so you all think you're going to be an attorney and make big money, you know, big six figure income? He goes, that doesn't happen.   Because you're you're going to be putting   in eighty, ninety hours at the office   and you've got to drum up business and you're earning points to become a partner.  

Now once you get to the partner level, then you might see some big six figure income.   But he was a private practicing attorney   and he made a promise to his wife he would never work more than sixty hours and he wanted, you know, family time. And I think he said he only made like $80,000   a year. I mean he was really open with it. So   it's a really rough gig. I don't know if I'd want to be an attorney or not. But   anyway,   if let me put it this way. There's a joke   that 97%   of the attorneys   give the other 3%   a bad name.   And that is so true. That's right.  

If you find an attorney   who really knows what they're talking about, they can Really difficult.   Yeah. It's hard to find them. But when you do, it doesn't take but a moment to figure out the person you're looking for. I just did this morning because of Roger and you. Yeah. Yeah. So   I I had a chance to talk to an attorney in Denver.   His first name is Tom, and he specialized in contract law.   And, oh my gosh, this guy was so sharp. He really knew his stuff. And then I got introduced to him through a mutual friend.   And I was like blown away. I'm like, this guy's really on top of it, you know. Good morning. So, but it like you said, it's it's really hard to find an attorney that knows their stuff.  



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Could you somehow ask him if he even knew about the silent contract that runs generationally   in the feudal system?  

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If he'd ever been exposed to that concept?  

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I I haven't talked to him in a long time. Okay. Okay. That'd just be interesting.  

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Let me say, you know, great show today, Tom. Good to hear back from you and all the discussion   we've had. Mark shows up. Gigi gets a little more off her chest to mark here. So good good foundational show today.   But there's so many things going on all of a sudden in the last couple of days.   All these in, indictments, so they're coming not gonna come out. You you have probably haven't heard much news, have you, Mark,   about all the grand juries that are being set up and this   they appointed this bulldog   guy. I can't remember his name. He's got a real high reputation,   and he is now over   the they gave him a billion dollars and 800   employees   to go after Schiff   and and Leticia James on the mortgage stuff.  



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That one wasn't was his name Ed Martin or somebody else? Yes. Yes. Something like that. It's Chris Ed Martin. Everybody raves about the guy. Okay?  

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So Yeah. That's going on. They're looking for like he should have been the AG. Well, he would if they tried to make him the AG of DC, and they they wouldn't allow it because he was gonna go after Schiff and them. So what Trump did was pull him off of that, and he was gonna make him an at large kinda AG over the whole country. And now he's got him in this role going after these two, especially Schiff. Yeah. How sweet that is. Yeah. A billion special commission. How much how much could you do with a billion dollars and 800 people working? Oh my gosh.   That's crazy. Now then they got another grand jury going up. You're gonna they're gonna go back and try and impeach Obama   post his presidency   because he's the one that initiated the whole Russiagate thing. They've got the absolute receipts of goods, and they're gonna go after, evidently,   Hillary Clinton,   Comey,   Brennan, Clapper,   and and maybe others. But all those are going up in front of a grand jury right now. So there's so much Wow. Law stuff. I you know, I didn't wanna wait till Monday to even mention it because that's a day and a half from now. Hell, there's all likely to be a whole new set of discussion points. You know? But,   we're missing all right in our wheelhouse   in a sense.  

And, and and something you'll wanna keep up with. Don't worry. It's gonna be in the news for a while.   The other thing   is Israel   is in the latest Gallup poll, the number one most hated country in the world.  

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Yeah. I'm not surprised. You know, this morning, I was thinking   all these Palestinians   that are over there.   Yeah. They do have a terrorist group as a government,   or that controls their government.   But you're telling me that Jesus would have gone into Gaza and slaughtered all these   innocent men and women and children?   Is that what you're telling me? No. Not at all. You know? It's just it's ridiculous.  

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Not at  

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all. Harass you. You don't know. I pay attention to the state, to the the government and stuff, of course, but I don't know unless I see it. I don't know if it's true or false from them. I just wanna free myself and my family and, you know, and God's gonna take over anyway. Our most high never loses.  

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Right.   Right.  

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I agree. Well, what is that?  

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I'm sure. Whistler coming on. Okay. Well, we'll hang around for a minute, but the whistler's   signifying, and we're on the end of the broadcast,   end of this. So but go ahead, Larry. We'll titillate them with whatever you gotta  

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say. Yeah.   So Mark mentioned, Mark, you mentioned you won four different cases on appeal, and I just have three questions out of curiosity. And you can answer them when we go on the after show. What was the subject matter?   Did you exclusively   draft all the arguments in the filings? And have you ever posted   the case numbers anywhere?   Thank you.  

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Yeah. I did. I did all the drafting and the outlines for the the research for those.   They were in different areas of law. The first one had to do with arbitration   on a credit card contract.   The second one was   usury.   And that was an interesting case that was in New Jersey.   It had to do with a company that would give out loans   to only do commercial loans and then their   interest rates were above the usury level.   And I found   a case that would, overturn that. So,   it's a it's a long story, but it's really fascinating. And I found this case and,   the guy that I was helping was up against corporate attorneys and they got shot down,   and that was on a on a, an appeal too. And then the other one was,   a, it's a, it was a foreclosure case out of South Carolina.  

And it's kind of weird how it happened   because   I I got brought in, like, after the foreclosure was already occurred in the county level, which is I really hate to do people wait to you know consult with me until after the fact.   And then my hands are kind of tied to what you can do.   So   anyway, when we put in an affidavit   into   the appellate court and explained what happened and filed similar in the county court,   Bank of America showed up and dismissed their case in the county,   notified the appellate court of South Carolina   that they dismissed the case and our appeal was moot, m o o t, moot.  

And and so they dismissed the appeal. So I count that as a win. That gentleman is still in his house.   And then the last one was in Texas on jurisdiction.   So,   you know, if you want that information I could I could give it to you, you know,   off air.   You can email me at strawmanmark   all caps dot com   and you don't have to spell that in all capital letters but that was my moniker when I first come on to Rodger's show.   So because my my thing was your name in all capital letters doesn't automatically   convey jurisdiction   And, you know, most people that have been in the patriot movement,   they don't understand that.  

I was like, you know, hard and heavy after the patriot mythology, like the gold fringe flag,   and your name in all capital letters, and so on and so forth. So And he's got his own straw man too.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. So   I my   my imaginary   straw man goes with me. And whenever people start talking about Patriot Mythology, he starts dancing around and and gets happy.  

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May I?   Sure, Paul. My bent's on the old cap, sir. And Mark?  

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My bent's on the old Hold on, Paul.  

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Hold on. Paul's got the floor.  

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Paul's got the floor.  

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Your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction. They have jurisdiction   under   the entity they created   and represented   by your name in all capital letters.   What conveys jurisdiction   is you voluntarily   accepting responsibility   for that entity you never created   that doesn't represent you   or by presumption   because you didn't rebut   that presumption.   They claim that that all caps name is you. And if you don't rebut it,   then they have jurisdiction because   you failed   to stand up for your own sovereign rights.   So there is an entity   that is represented in all caps.  

It is not you. It's something you never created.  

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They did. Slave. It was a slave, and you're not in that slave position anymore.   Doesn't matter. And and here's the question I keep asking these people, Mark. Why don't you submit an affidavit   with your name in all capital letters to see if they refuse it?   Yeah. They won't. Okay. They won't. I promise you that they won't. Tom, it was Tom was trying to say something a minute ago?   Who was it that was trying to say something?   Alright.   Well, I don't know who you are. So Hey. Come on.  

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Danny in Tennessee. Oh, Danny. Okay. Warren, you said something about proving that all all the traffic cases and the all the traffic laws in the   state   are commerce.  

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Right.  

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What about a statement by the legislature   in that's in the code that says commerce includes trade traffic and transportation?  

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Well, they're just being a little more more specific about identifying it in Tennessee evidently. Well,  

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yeah, that   it it varies from state to state. I don't know if that is,   you know, good enough to to say, I mean that's, you're saying   you have a, a legislator   that made that comment? Was that in? No, it's in the code. In the code. It's in the code.   Well, I'd I'd have to research that a little bit. I would recommend that you look at that. Try to find case law that backs it up.   That that basically says, you know, the difference between commerce and non commerce, and whether the state has a right to regulate   travel,   not commerce, not driving,   but does the state have the right   to regulate   travel even by non resident aliens? Well And unfortunately,   I do have a US Supreme Court case that says exactly that, that   that states have the right to regulate travel even if it's a nonresident alien.  



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Well, give me a second. I'll see if I can look it up. The other thing is is they've got there's two types of jurisdiction. You got personum,   and then you got, the the other type. What's   escaping my mind a second.   But the courts claim Subject matter. Subject matter jurisdiction   over all the roads in the county.   Yep.   So so there's a little way to look at it. It's just not folks, it's not a battle I suggest you fight. If you wanna go put your armor on and mount your horse with your long stick there and go fight it, you go ahead. We'll support you. But it's just   it's not a battle. Once you know, you can't stop. You have I can't stop. So You can get in so deep that you even though you might win,   they win because they steal your life   for whatever As far as the  

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registering for license plate,   I've looked at the codes   from before the current one,   and there it's very clear that the,   registering a car or anything   to be used as a vehicle is a special business privilege   that includes a tax and a license.  

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Correct. You're a user. They own it. You're using it. Well, why aren't they fixing it and paying gas for it?   Because you've got If you don't pay the loan if you pay off the loan and think you if you pay off the loan and think you own it, they're and you don't pay your taxes, they'll come and get it. So no one really owns it. Because you got possess because you've got possession of it. That's why they can do that. If they had possession of it, they'd be responsible for those things.  

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But this is an instance where you, as a serf,   don't own anything because you've got a property right on you. That's why your title is a certificate of title,   etcetera, etcetera. So it's And I understand the difference and got look. If you wanna go fight that battle, you go fight it. But it may be you may have bit off more than you could chew.   I'm just telling you. Experience   here.  

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Experience.  

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Roger?  

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Yes.  

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Larry. Yeah. Question from Mark. What do you agree with,   everything that Mark or everything that Paul was talking about? That's the all capital name is a separate entity,   and you represent it. Do you agree with that, Mark?  

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No. Not really.   I I don't the way he presented it, no. I wouldn't say I don't agree with it. I mean, I respect his opinion. I respect his opinion.   And maybe he could change my mind, but I'm always open to that too, some direction.   I'm not saying I'm right about everything. So, you know, you you gotta  

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If you just gotta be  

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you gotta have a bit of an open mind because you can run across stuff and be proven wrong, and I'm open to that, you know.   I could be proven wrong. I did find that case as negative.   I'll post it in the chat box there.   But it's called Hendrick versus Maryland   Supreme Court from  

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1950 to '19. There's a little bit of an echo.   Several people with their mutes open problem that's causing that.   I come back to the to the example I gave you, Larry. If   you submit an affidavit with your name in all caps, would they reject it? And the I guarantee the answer is no.   So   just like the three days of the show we spent with Abraham arguing over   a US citizen is a national   or US national   is a American Samoan or is it as it says in that certificate of noncitizen   nationality,   is it the same thing as a US citizen?   And all and the whole thing, we spent two days in in sometimes heated argument over that, and it doesn't make any difference. It's just   you're spinning your wheels   You're spinning on on these fine points. Do they make a difference? Fine?  

No. Okay. Well, you know what it says in the protocols? You ever heard the protocol, Larry?   Larry?   Right. Are you making a delivery?  

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No. I have I have a I have a Well, in the protocols,  

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it says in there in one statement, one section,   we will get them arguing   over issues of little   difference.   That's what that is.   K? Just like it says in the protocols. Just like it says caught.   Deny deny deny.   You're gonna hear a whole bunch of people deny deny denying.   They got them dead to rights. K? Yeah.   But they're gonna deny anyway.   They're gonna deny. Because that's what the protocols   instructions to do. Protocols.   Okay?   Hey, Roger. Just to weigh in on that. Yes, sir?  

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Could I get could I get the,   the, straw man the,   to get ahold of Mark?  

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Yeah. Mark, you wanna give him your email again? Yeah. Just email me at straw  

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man, all one word, just like it sounds, strawman@mark,allcaps,.com.   Now you don't have to capitalize it. Doesn't matter how you spell it, upper or lowercase.   But strawman@mark,allcaps,caps,.com.  

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Yep. Yep. Thank you. Yes. And and for all the newer folks, we were about to offer when Paul puts it together,   in, I guess, in combination with Mark to some extent that,   another trust class   where it's gonna be very affordable   for people that are tied on cash right now. So stay tuned for that. We'll fill you in on that.   Yes? Miss Julie? Yes, ma'am?  

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Yeah. I just wanna let people know.   It's   m a r sorry. Straw straw man, s t r a w m a n at   m a r k   a l l   c a p s dot com. The very first time I emailed him, I emailed   [email protected]   with mark in all caps. You have to spell out   all caps.   And by the way, Mark don't talk to Mark about the straw man. He does not believe in that. But even though he has that as an email,  

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I yield. It's all a poke. That's It's all a poke at Patriot. He will soon. Go ahead.  

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Mark, you were I I see Yeah. That was that was just my kind of poking fun at all the,   patriots that believed in that.   So yeah.  

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K. Well,  

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Amazing show, Roger.  

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Well, thank you very much. We it's been a Hi, Trevor. It's a love labor of love Of love. Over 14   well, fifteen years now.   So, and we've grown very slowly.   We've got a pretty solid foundation,   probably much larger than I realized.   And,   we're just waiting to pop the pork on the champagne bottle,   which may be in next week. Who knows?   We're we're real close, I feel like. So, Joan, was that you?  

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Yes. What what does it what does   it what does it say to you that Barrett   is the new commissioner of the IRS? Well, I'd say  

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well, I don't know. They're talking about people maybe phasing it out. I don't think that they're gonna be able to phase it out. I don't think these tariffs are ready to take over that entire   area, which is what's happening, you know, really, if you analyze it a bit. We're switching systems again. We had late eighteen from eighteen seventies on,   we were under a tariff system. It was incredibly   effective way to run the country.   And as I've told you, there was a any of you remember Boston Tea Party wrote a book back in the nineties called Goodbye April 15.   And he had a a cartoon of the day from eighteen seventies in his book. And it was the senate,   and the well of the senate was full of alligators.  

And the caption was, the Arabs were bringing in so much money, they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate.   Okay?   So that was the way the country was run very effectively. Obviously,   the bankers came in here with another plan with the slave system plan because then they don't have to invest any money. All they get is their precious user.   Okay? Because we're the generation.   We're taking the place of the other foreign country   paying the tariff, and we're paying the tampon payments, and we're paying our back.   It's reason   I got a an echo coming. It's a little difficult. Anyway Miss Gigi.  

System,   they switched that system   and and and put us all in slavery, so we're   the capital.   They by having a property right in us, they can take control of our labor. Future too in futures. See how they do everything in the futures market? They're suppressing the price of gold and silver in the futures market. They're always playing futures markets. And when you can control the future, I guess you control the present, don't you?   K? And so they brought this system in so that they could enrich themselves. It's just like Colonel House said in that little memo. He said, we'll become wealthy beyond our wildest dreams.   Well, they have,   and it's off our backs.  

And so now now Trump's coming in, and he's trying to replace   the income tax system with the the tariff system and get us back to that 100   fifty years ago,   pro profile.   And   the big problem that we had never I'd never thought about   before John,   our great student that came on and spent some time with us yesterday. Mark, you didn't hear this.   None of the countries want any of our produce because there's all GMO.   And here, he's got that huge farm where he grows not organic, but they're not GMO.   Corn, mainly his customer was like Jim Beam, I think.   But now all of a sudden, because none of the countries   want the GMO stuff, his market has collapsed too.  

So, yeah, you may be getting some tariffs, but we got some problems with exports   as evidenced by what he told us yesterday.   Nobody wants the GMO stuff.  

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Roger.  

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Did that answer your question, Joan? I'm not sure if it did or not.  

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Yeah. It,   yes. And I think it Okay. I   I think it was Trump who told FEMA   not to give aid to the state who boycott   who boycott Israel.  

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Oh, yeah. No. That it was Trump. Of course.   They they won't give states any emergency stuff if they boycott Israel.   Now you know where that came from?   It came from DHS   and a committee of a subcommittee or a committee of DHS,   which is the one they recently put Mark Levin on.   That's where that came from.   Now you asked me about IRS.   I don't know with him putting   Bassan in   as the official commissioner   of IRS,   if that dooms   if that deems its extinction   or tells you it's gonna be around for a little while. I don't think they can make that transition   abruptly.  

I think it's gotta be phased.   K?   So my situation is I hope it's around for a while   because they're our best recruiter.  

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Comment. Yes. Well, there you are. Hey, man. Hey, Tom. Yeah. I'm I'm back here in the corner just listening,   you know, and enjoying all of it's a really great show today.   The,   you know, what's gonna happen is is that if if they do get this   accomplished and they abolish the IRS   and they start living off of the tariffs, eventually,   unless they keep raising the tariffs, they're going to outgrow that budget because they're gonna say, oh, we got all this extra money, so let's spend it and find some other departments and Well the things that we can spend the money on. Eventually, they'll outgrow that   income, and then they'll say, oh, we gotta bring the income tax back. Well, there's no doubt about that.  



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Democrats get involved, they'll probably do it. Hopefully, as that goes down the line, our information gets exposed, and we'll get some of those scoundrels out of there.   That's just a wish and a Hunter. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yes, Larry. Yeah. A couple of facts about Billy Long.   So   he said that he's excited.  

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Who's he?  

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The commissioner   that was   fired.  

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Oh, okay.   I didn't know. I don't know who he is. Yeah. Go ahead.  

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Wait. I thought you and Julie went over that earlier in the show.  

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I only know any I'd have any idea who Billy Long is. I thought he was maybe,   you know, the kingfish's   great grandson or something.  

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Roger, he was the one that just got fired.  

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Okay.  

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But, boy, I'm glad that the point was that Besson was put in as commissioner. I had no idea who Billy Long was. Acting commissioner.   Okay.  

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Yeah. That's it. Yeah. But, anyway,   Billy Long just said,   recently   that he's excited to take on my new role   as the ambassador to Iceland.   He did not address his departure from the IRS.   And then get this,   Long and this might be the reason why he was fired.   Long was an unorthodox   pick   to lead the IRS given his limited   tax experience,   his ties to a fraud   riddled tax credit,   and his past support   for abolishing the agency,   but there weren't any public signs in recent weeks that the Trump loyalists'   future   at the IRS was in jeopardy.  

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Well, I can tell you one thing. If they really wanna put you deep in the back closet, they'll make you the ambassador to Iceland.   That's not exactly a high profile position.   Anyway, things are changing. Equivalent of going to Siberia?   Kind of. As a Russian. It's like being it's like being in the air force and you're stationed to Minot, North Dakota.   Or the other big one is Thule Thule, Greenland. There's an air force base there.   Thule, Greenland.   So anyway  

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And they're gonna build the and they're gonna build the embassy in Iceland under the ice like they tried to do with that,   military base. They tried to hide underneath the ice, and I said, no. You don't.  

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Could be.   Who knows what these bastards are up to?   So I do know under the circumstances   of today with the electricity and coming on right   actually into the show, thank you, Paul, for picking up the front end,   that I had no chance to get anything in my stomach or anything, and I'm pretty hungry. And I hadn't even had a second cup of coffee yet. So does anybody have anything for me? And you guys can carry on if you want. No?   Tom, good to see you again.   I hope your attorney friend gets the message here.   Gigi, glad you got to tell your story. Mark, glad we got to introduce you to all these there's a bunch of new people there,   that are listening supposedly. So,   this is Mark, and, that's what we do six days a week. This is a little more freewheeling   because of the nature of Saturday. We don't you know? It seems like Thursday and Saturday   seemed like different days to do the show. Anyway, it was a good one today. Hey, Ross. Thank you all for, being on board, and I hope you got something out. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.  



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Okay. Alright.   Not so fast.   This is Adana from Austin. I was in Japan. I just, for several weeks, I finally came back. I just, missed your voice and just, wanna tell you hi and hi to everyone. Uh-huh.   Just the next time, I'll tell you more about, what my experience was and Well, you know It's great to hear your voice. The there's these two juke twins called the Krasenstein  

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brothers. I keep hearing them referred to interviewed occasionally. They're both liberals, obviously.   And one of them or both of them just went to Japan too.   And they came back and I go, why isn't our country being run like this? It's clean. It's neat. It's, you know, problems, no crime, etcetera, etcetera. So I'm sure you experienced that. Right?  

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Oh, yeah. It was tremendous. It's unbelievable. There's no country like like Japan in the world. I I dare say that.   They're very unique people. It's just something something   something weird to get in there. So that not weird, but it's very, very different. In a good way to change. Something to aspire to in some aspect. Something to aspire to. Yeah. They have the the   the man, the   respect and   adoration that they have to mankind   to to to one another.   It's it's they're hard, hard, hard people. Don't get me wrong. But,   but it that hardness comes from doing the right thing.  

You know? So they they're very,   appropriate on that. You know,  

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you've heard us talk and you may be familiar with Eustace Mullins,   the great patriarch of our movement.   You familiar with him?  

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No. No. I'm not.  

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Well, he's written a whole bunch of books. Paul's got a number of them on there. He was,   when he was a young man I'll go into the story a little bit for everybody.   He's one of the real patriarchs of our movement because he tapped into Ezra Pound.   Ezra Pound was a very Mhmm. Influential guy who, edited four or five Nobel pry Hemingway and a couple other ones.   He's the one that knew what was going on.   And he he during World War two, he went over   to Italy and was broadcasting shortwave on back into The US on what was going on in the bankers and all that. Well, they sent a brigade over there and literally kidnapped him and brought him back to The US and put him in a insane asylum   called Saint Elizabeth's Hospital outside of DC.  

Eustace Mullins was a young man in college, and one of his professors   knew   Ezra Pound personally.   So he would send Eustace out there every Friday afternoon   and spend the whole afternoon talking and getting this information from Ezra.   And Eustace on the side   worked at the Library of Congress.   And so when he was at the Library of Congress, he found a room   in the basement that was,   basically, a little suite,   bed, bathroom, kitchen.   And so what he'd do is he'd go there on Friday afternoons   and go down in the basement in that room, and they'd lock up the Library of Congress,   and he'd come out and he had free reign   over all of the information   that had never been publicized   yet.  

And so he wrote a book called The Secrets of the Federal Reserve. This was in the early fifties.   And Eustace went I saw I saw him speak several times, shook up, shake his hand, heard him tell this story, so I can relate it to you. And so he went to 22 publishers in New York with the, with the book. They all accepted it, and every one of them called back the next day and and and revoked the contract.   He finally had to take it over to Germany to get printed.   And as they were loading at it on the, on the concourse there in pallets,   and they came and burned the pallets. It's the first only book burned in Germany   since World War two.  

K? So this is Eustace Mullins,   and and he wrote a number of books and   very prolific writer. He wrote the only history of the American Medical Association.   It's called murder by injection,   like COVID.   That's all. Paul's got that on the website, the curse of Canaan, the new world order,   just rape of the judiciary.   So he's got one on law there about the rape of justice or something.   Very prolific. Just a great guy.   And, anyway, that was his his contribution and all this stuff. I forgot what I was gonna tell you about him. But, that is about there's something about him in Japan.   Oh, yeah. Thank you. That's right. He his his most popular market in the world was Japan.  

I heard him say that. Very interesting. Yes. It was to me too.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. So and Japan is still a beautiful country because they doesn't have no dark skinned people. All the countries that have dark skinned people, they are all horrified. Look at Europe right now. Yeah. That's the proof. Yeah. Well It's not being racist. It's the truth.   It's it's just you see around and you see how they got  

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Europe right now, they destroying that country. It's it you almost say destroy. You can almost put it in past tense.  

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Yeah. So, actually, it's it's it's so we went to Japan to be serviced and enjoy the Japanese culture and,   feel and understand,   you know,   the way of life over there.   Not knowing that, say, my wife and I wanted to rent a kimono,   and, you know, the traditional dress you put on and, you know, you can walk around, have photos taken.   So not realizing that it was actually the Chinese people that provided that service to us.  

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So  

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so it is now Japan is overtaken by foreigners, especially,   Chinese   and   other nations, Malaysia and all of that. So I we took a private private tour, and and the guy that he says   the tour the tour guide is and I thought it was Japanese, but he kept referring to the Japanese people them.   And then I was like, they, them. And I was like, why do you keep referring? Well, he goes,   I am,   40%   Japanese and 60%   Indonesian.   So I'm not really a Japanese. So it's really not my country,   40%.   So   that's a you know, but you live here, right? You work here. You go to school here.   Yeah. So there is something about,   you know, Japan for Japanese people. So it is my personal experience has been,   that they unfortunately,   they opened the door to so many international people, and you see it everywhere.  

And it was so one of my Japanese friend, I told him Japan for Japanese. You know? And,   apparently, they had their own MAGA election while we're there.   And,   I'm sorry. They had their election and their MAGA party,   got 14%,   which is a land slide, 14%   in an overall parliament's election and all of that. I don't quite understand it.   Apparently, it's a land slide.   And the one thing they stand for is Japan for Japanese people. Yeah.   It is it is getting taken over, and and it's kind of a sad so whatever Europe is experiencing, they're experiencing it there. They come to terms with it. And I'll tell you the Roger. As many of those people are Chinese,  

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and the Japanese and the Chinese have a ancient rivalry. K? They don't like each other. Do you know? Yeah. Yeah. Robbie, was that you? Yeah.  

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Yes, sir.   I don't know where I heard it, Roger, but,   there was ranking of IQ in the world. China is number one.   The United States Of America is 40   something.  

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Wouldn't surprise me and the lady. Yeah.  

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It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. But but they they they they, they mill those people. In in China, it's not really a fair comparison because they they, they mill that. In other words,   their education and everything is drive, drive, drive, drive, drive. Memorize, memorize, memorize, memorize. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. If you, you know, if you do that by the mass scale,   it's gonna tip the numbers.   Well, thanks for the report. It's a very interesting I wanted to tell you Okay. Yes. Yeah. I wanted I was hoping to find I was hoping to meet someone that I can have this conversation with   and,   you know, about nationality from Japan, but I was hoping to have that. I I didn't have that, unfortunately.  



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Yeah.   But, Well, you know, here's what you tell me. This is one of the questions that got me into this originally.   Does Sony stand for Standard Oil of New York?   And I came to the conclusion   that it did and does.   K?  

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Now and I can tell you why, but who was the other person who was trying to say something? Just then? Well, you know, after after after after the bomb was dropped and, the nation was wiped out, if they have to,   bring them up to life, they have to come to life, right, have to rebuild.   I mean, you know, it's only logical for the winning nation to   leverage That   manpower in Japan.  

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These these creeps that run our country, you don't think they wouldn't take that over? Yeah. I mean, come on. When when Rockefeller   sold Rockefeller sooner, who'd you sell it to? Sony.   Yeah. Okay. Now what happened with that,   at that time,   I was teaching at the Art Institute of Atlanta. And I had a boss who was my roommate that got me the job. Thank you, Louis. He's a Jew, by the way. Lived with me for five years.   And, and then there was another Jew named Marty Blytheld   who's from Indianapolis. He'd married a,   a gentile girl. Very nice.  

Very attractive.   And, so she   when the Bank of Japan opened up a branch   in Atlanta,   she was the head guy's   secretary.   She was the highest ranking female   in the world   at the Bank of Japan.   So one day as I'm stumbling into all this, the Sony means Standard Oil in New York,   I went into Marty. I said, hey, Marty. Could you ask Linda when she's at work   if about this? If Sony   stands for Standard Oil New York. And then I was in the office in about a month later or so, and I go in, and he grabs me, pulls me in his office,   and he sets the door. Alright, guys. Let me tell you what's going on with this.  

And so Linda went to work and started asking.   And one of the guys that had just come over from Japan   said, I don't know,   but Japoni   has no kanji   in Japanese. Now I don't know if you picked up on kanji when you were over there, but evidently, it's in their language   that all of their language relates to something in the culture.   And he goes,   Sony has no kanji   in Japanese.   So she went to the next highest guy, the guy right underneath the president,   and he goes,   you know, I don't know, but it's very unusual how such a small company   as obscure could become so big and powerful after the war.  

And the only guy to ask left was her boss. And she said, I ain't asking him.   Yeah. Yeah. So I came to the conclusion that it definitely does   stand for Standard Oil New York. They put it right in front of your face.  

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Well, we we we went to the spot where they actually on Hiroshima, where they actually dropped the bomb. Right. Memorial   right at the spot. And,   it's the most surreal experience. You you see people from from all over. It stirs   your emotions. And   and it's a big park, and you see some people actually kneel down and cry. And I see that a couple of times. I saw that a couple of times. And   it's it's overwhelming.   Okay? It's overwhelming.   And and it's,   it's total complete devastation.   And,   and and then they were only women and children. It was just a city. It's a far up city. It was just a city. Yep.  

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Well, I'm glad that they had a safe trip over and back. It sounds like you learned some stuff as you come and realize more things and put it together. If you do, as we go forward, please bring it to us. I think that's an interesting Alright. Comparison into a Thank you, Roger. Very unique culture.   Very and what's happening with them right now   is because they're having to raise their interest rates. You know all about that? You know, the carry trade? Yeah. I'm aware of that. Yes. Okay. Yes. So all that has gotta have some effect on their economy, and that may be   why,   because they're having to make the inn worth more with the interest. That may be why you're getting so much tourism over there. Yeah. Yes.  



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It's a good time to go. Yeah. It's definitely.  

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Okay. Well, great. Thanks for the report, Russell.  

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Thank you.   Thank you. Who's the gentleman speaking, Roger? Who's the gentleman speaking? He This is the is on is on a is on a is on a from Austin. I'm in Austin. Area.   Okay. Yeah.  

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And Are you aware of James Corbett?  

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Good. Good point. Corbett. Why does that   The Corbett report?  

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The Corbett report. Yeah. Yes. As as I just You're familiar with him? I do. He's a Canadian who he's a Canadian who went to Japan   to be an English teacher and ended up marrying a Japanese lady   and has several children, and he does his reports from the sunny climbs   of Western Japan as he says every time. Right.   Very, very thorough researcher. Got a lot of good information. I was just curious if you were aware of him. He's excellent. Y'all are not aware of the Corbett Report. It's the corbettreport.com.  

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He's got some fabulous   documentaries on World War one, all these different subjects. He's exceptionally   good. So good point, Bob. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. Yep.  

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Yeah. It's, it's I'll tell you more as weeks come on. I know it's kind of a little past your time, but I just wanted to tell you that I'm back and Okay. Over my,   my butt lag and   and, so I missed everyone. I missed the show. Yeah. It's been a long time. That west to east jet lag, boy, that'll that'll slap you upside the head.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was hard. Yeah. It takes two three or four days to get over it. So, okay. Anybody else got anything for me? My stomach is saying Roger, Roger, please. Thank you.  

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Okay. Roger. Yeah.  

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Yes, Larry.  

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Yeah. I was wondering if you could spell Corbett   as in Corbett rep report. C o r b  

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e t t, I think?  

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T t. Correct. Double.  

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Double t? Boy, he's good. Are you not familiar with him, Larry?   Boy, get get familiar with this guy. Go watch that centrist.   Go go watch that documentary on World War one. It will blow you away.   Okay?  

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It's actually I think he's actually got a two parter at this point. Yeah. I'm not sure. Yeah. It's excellent. Any of any of his stuff is excellent.  

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K? Very   fastidious   researcher as Bob said.   Okay. I'm gonna head off into my short weekend and, abbreviated somewhat.   And I will see you guys on Monday, and Lord knows we'll see what develops   between now and then. It's fertile ground. You also know I guess you've heard   that Trump is meeting Putin next Friday   in Alaska   to to settle this,   supposedly the, Ukraine deal.   Interesting. They do it in Alaska.   K?  

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You're darn tooting. Yeah. So,  

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I'll see y'all, Monday. Have a super weekend and all the well new people, welcome.   And, just if you feel like you're getting a drink of water out of the wire wire fire hydrant, just   stand steady. You'll get it. Okay?   So Roger? Yes, Larry.  

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Yeah. One more thing before you go. Can you ponder something over the weekend? I don't know. And,   consider offering an explanation   to the INA,   material.   Do you know how you always you're always using the   the the last statement   as your statement to file a an affidavit of citizenship evidence? And that statement is,   I I being duly sworn,   hereby declare my intention to be a national, but not a citizen of The United States. Yeah. And I was just noticing that that the context   of that of that declaration   is   within   the context of   those   those,   that the subject matter that has to do with the Mariana Islands  

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Well, no. Like, they're they're given tent lines and all this kind of stuff. But in the big picture, it rebuts the presumption. It's that simple. I use it as an illustration   to show people how simple it is to to get out of this. I suggest you use the doubt have affidavit   we've got because it's got that second paragraph   into the IRS,   and that's where we can really hit their weak Achilles heel. So that but I use the other simply as an illustration how simple it is to, rebut the presumption.   So I don't have to talk or anything over the weekend. I can tell you right there the reason. Okay?   Thank you. I'll see you little students   and boys and girls on Monday, and go   contemplate  

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being free.  

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Okay. Thank you, Bori. Love each and every one of you, even the new ones we haven't spoken to yet. So come back. It'll all become clear if it's confusing to you   one bite at a time.   K? So welcome to your new freedom, and I'll see you on Monday. Hopefully, good lord willing the electricity doesn't go out. See you.  

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I have an interesting factoid,   if anybody's interested.   Decades ago, I took over the payments on my mother's car. It was a Vega. If anybody remembers the Vega, they were famous for   aluminum blocks which cracked.   But, anyway, my   Vegas block cracked,   and we put an ad out to sell it. Some guy came and his girlfriend or wife came. Remember, this was decades ago, so I I don't remember all the details.   What I do remember   is the guy said   that his grandfather,   I believe,   was the one that bop dropped the bomb on Hiroshima.   I don't know. But what he did say is that   afterwards, he became tremendously   mentally ill.  



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That was Paul Tibbets.  

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The grandfather became  

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And those were Christian   cities.  

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The grandfather became  

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And, no, he did not he did not become mentally ill. He was happy with with what he did all the way to his death.   That's a wives' tale.  

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Mhmm.  

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Probably from the exposure from the bomb.  

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Well, it's a piece, Nick, that are trying to say he had remorse. No. He didn't.  

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The the the you know, Steve Bannon had a a show on,   when was it, August 6 on the eightieth?   He had   a little bit of a snippet about, how, things transpired.   You know, so it took it took several guys to haul it out in preparation for the,   for the b 52 to fly out there.   And,   all the engineering that went on to deliver.  

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B 29.  

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Yeah. B 29. Sorry.   And,   and and and it's you know,   I've always wondered why that city, why that location.   And Nagasaki   was actually way up in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the   far, far away.   Why that city?   I mean and then the excuse that they give, the reason they give is,   because those cities didn't have any POW.  

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That's They did have POWs,   and   they were Chris well, Nagasaki was a Christian city.  

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Yeah.  

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A lot the same go with goes with Dresden in Germany.   Similar circumstance.  

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And who picked the targets for,   the nukes?  

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Yeah. Three guesses,  

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and two of them are wrong.   You know who did it.   Who do you think did it? You know who did it. They do all the skullduckery.  

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They use  

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A rectamunda.  

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Anyone in anyone in particular,   Brent?  

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No.   It was more than likely one of them.   They were in power,   period.  

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We stayed   we stayed at a farm   for four days.   I mean, I I could we couldn't communicate. We had to have, like, a Japanese to English translator and just speak but didn't translate.   But it was just, you know, farm to table type of situation   and Japanese, everything Japanese.   So my wife and I and   just the loveliest people.   I mean,   it's just   just wonderful.   We were in their   care. They just took care of us.   Like,   really, we could have been their children. They're in their seventies,   late seventies.  

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My my understanding  

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Why?   Yeah. Go ahead, sir.  

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My understanding   is that,   Nagasaki was a secondary city to bomb.   Kokoro was first, and it was more military.   But the weather conditions weren't good, so the second choice was Nagasaki.  

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And it's no coincidence,   like,   I was, saying to Roger earlier about solving. We're talking about. It's no coincidence   that, coincident that,   the top,   the top 10 car manufacturers,   best cars in the world that we utility.   They're all from  

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Japan. And if I may, Hosanna, I I got a couple comments.   Well, one question. What what are your thoughts on   those   Nagasaki and Hiroshima being Christian   cities and then Henry Ford   allowed the   the Toyota family into the Rouge   plant in Detroit   and they they lived there for like six months or something. And he showed them all of every aspect of his manufacturing.   You know, he built the entire car there except for the rubber tires. He tried to   grow rubber plants, you know, down in South America somewhere, but that failed.   But he wanted to build the entire car, every aspect. He made his own steel   and they did that at the Rouge plant and and they shared all that with the Toyota family. What do you know about that, Niyo?  



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I I I don't know. I don't know anything about about that, but I would say about the the w about, being a Christian nation, I'm totally even surprising.   And it's,   I would say that,   wherever you go in the world,   for some reason, Dave Lukut,   from their perspective,   the Christians are the renegades   to be,   you know, gotten rid of.   So,   wherever you see wars,   in Africa   and in anywhere else, the casualties are immediately on the Christians.   And,   and it's no coincidence that a Muslim   religion just takes, like, wildfire,   all everywhere.  

I   think that was intentional.   My 2¢.  

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So being 40%   Japanese, Hosanna, did you know   that those two cities were Christian cities?  

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Oh, no. No. I'm not I'm not forty first I'm not 40%.   I'm actually from Africa,  

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Oh, I thought you said you were   Indonesian and Japanese.  

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No. No. No. The the the the the tool guide that we hired.   Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Forgive me. And he he keeps referring to he we thought he was Japanese. He keeps referring to the Japanese people as.   I was like, I mean, why are you doing that? And I I asked him,   Edgar. And he finally explained and was like, okay. So you live here, you go to school here, university student.   Japan has given you everything you've got and, you know, we refer to them as they and them, and I'm just kind of sort of kinda kinda rubbed me off the wrong way.   But he really   acted up when he starts bashing Trump.  



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Well, you could chalk that up to the lip charts that   different level. You could chalk that up to the lip charts that control  

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all of the universities   and colleges around the world.  

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Yes.   That's exactly so I I asked her, so what do you study?   And so so what's so he is a PhD student. I found out he's a PhD student. I was like, wow. So that's pretty cool. So this guy   must be very smart. So   why are you doing, you know, tour tour guide if you're a PhD student? Shouldn't you be, like, doing your studies or whatever?   Why are you doing this?   And he goes, well, I gotta I gotta make a side hustle so I can raise some cash.   And I said, okay. Makes sense. So then what are you studying for your PhD?   He goes,   my research is about   impact of   slavery in a Japanese community.  

You   know, Japanese people, enslaved people, and then I wanted to   so my research,   my PhD is about the impact that slavery has on on on on   communities and and and Japanese community on both sides.   I was like, okay. Now I understand why you're bashing from.  

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Another thing it could another thing it could be is,   you know, in in Japan,   it doesn't matter if you're 40 or 60%,   70, even 80%, 90,   they do not accept you or that you are one of them.   That. So maybe that's why he also doesn't consider himself   a complete Japanese because,   you know, in Japan, 99%   are   that live there   are are culturally Japanese,   a 100%.   So anything in between that, they basically don't think they're part of their own tribal.   They accept you even if you speak a Japanese, even if you were born there, but they do not accept you a 100% part of their other tradition, their family, or in the culture.  

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Yeah. And and my my and then I I agree. I agree to that   completely. And I would say that we all should do that.   You know, so if you go to Ethiopia, for example,   and if you see another Africans like the Kenyans or Uganda or Nigeria,   and they go to Ethiopia and they start pretending to be Ethiopians,   I will tell you. That ain't it's not gonna go well for them.   Okay? Is there is  

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there any such thing as a   a half black German? And that's what people do not understand.   Yeah. So No. You're either you're either one. It's not their fault. Whoever's   a mixed race Yeah.   Is not their mixed race because   all this government for centuries   are are destroying humanity.   But the truth is,   we all should be very proud from wherever we come from,   black, white, green,   yellow, whatever we are, and and we should advocate for that. But, you know, the elites or whatever you wanna call them, they want us to lose our identity. Because once we lose our identity,   they control us. Because then you don't have no passion and no no,   linkage to your to your kind.  

So you I think that's the end game. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the tower Of Babel means confusion.   So what's happening to us now is a reverse. It's not that God that's   given different language or or changed our land. It's we're building this tower in reverse by,   mixing with everybody else, and then we have problem also in our family or as as individual   and all these things, and that's not good. So probably that,   Japanese young man between the college and between all this liberalness   plus the culture, he he he doesn't have an identity.  

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Yeah. And and, you know, I understand all of that. That's correct. And, you know, I I say that I personally, you know, like I said, I'm from Africa. My wife is Mexican, so we're a mixed family.   And a woman in The U. S. Where everybody's from somewhere else. I think,   you know,   cultural identity is one thing. It's   and then we all should honor and respect different cultures.   And Japanese should respect their Japanese culture. Ethiopia should respect and honor and   have their culture and cultural identities thrive.   Mexicans the same way. Everyone should do that.  

But this mixing and whitewashing,   like, everybody and you're just   so we're all   equal. We're all equal as humans, but we're all different.   And and that, to me,   is is, nefarious.  

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I agree with you. Can you tell us,   what were the majority,   of the people there,   aside from Japanese, the the top three or four national ethnicities?  

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Yeah. Chinese.   Chinese is pretty much   took a like wildfire. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. It's,   yeah. It's it's it's  

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What she's talking about? Very weird.   And what what region, city, or state she's talking about?  

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Japan. Well, we Yeah. Japan.  

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Today is Is it hard is it hard to tell the difference?  

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Is it hard to tell the difference? I hope that's not a stupid question.  

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No. It's not. It's it's not hard.  

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It's not hard. Today is the eightieth anniversary of Nagasaki,   by the way.  

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Oh, today is the okay. The other day was   Hiroshima. Yeah. Okay.  

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Yeah. And their their primary   target was Kokura. I looked it up.   They had a lot of problems   with that flight to start with. They were low on fuel.   There was a lot of, overcast   and   smog and and smoke from prior bombings of a nearby city to Kokura.   But,   that they they had,   clear rules that they could only bomb if they had clear sight. It wasn't overcast. So   that's why they moved to Nagasaki.  

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I was But you're You know  

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Go ahead.  

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Oh, yeah. I was gonna say, you know, you they didn't have like, they don't at that time, they were just manually flipped a switch to drop the the the cap.   Right?   So it just so happened   that, I kid you not, it just dropped   maybe,   I don't know, 50 feet from the edge of the water.   That's a, it's a   pretty big sized river.  

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You know, if they had it it actually got dropped where it was from what I understand is there was a break in the clouds. Otherwise, if there wasn't a break in the clouds, they couldn't have dropped it. So they dropped it where the break was.  

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Mhmm. Yeah. I hit a land. Could've landed in the water.  

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Terrible as it   was, you know, we we when one night a bombing took Tokyo with incendiary bombs,   we killed 80,000 people, and we didn't think a thing about it. Right?  

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Yeah. And all civilians.   Yeah.  

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Weaponry that wasn't even lawful.  

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Weaponry that wasn't even lawful.  

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Well, the incendiary  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That one. Yeah.   Mexico, who are these people? Who who who who's doing all of this? I mean, you know  

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I was always told it was because   it was the cultural center of Japan,   and it was to demoralize the Japanese people as much as anything   and to take that. That's what I was always taught.  

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Yeah. And and and, I'm sure   okay. Yeah. You mean   I'm sure that that would be the net effect.   But,   you know, if you were in a military   conflict, you go after the military. And civilians, they would have known as civilians have really   if you understand anything about Japanese culture,   its hierarchy is everything.   So civilians had just no say. These are just farmers   in their daily life, women and children. I mean,   mute   during war. Okay. Militarians are fair games. Civilians?  

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The the problem with the Japanese culture is you could, their mindsets, by what he's saying, is the,   the samurai   mentality is in the service in the emperor.   So that has transferred for thousand   years into that mentality.   They're warriors. Yeah. Yeah. They're warriors and, and the father and, and the the they're I don't like I don't like saying the word Spanish, but they you're   right. You know? They basically walk in line. The father, the father, the grandfather, the head of it, and so on and so on. But it's complete control over a century.   Even before,   World War two and then after World War two, it just got worse. All the corporate   has control. You know, from Sony, the it's really under the wings of the Rockefellers and all these things. And they have destroyed   the the tradition in so many ways, but they still keep   the   the tradition and the women and men.  

And now there's a very big deep population   because, 70%   of of the men or young men don't wanna get married.   And, they want it because it is so expensive   to to have a wife and to have a living   day. It's, sort of like dishonor if they cannot provide or maintain. So they prefer not to get married, and now they're all,   with all these gadgets.   They've been, addicted to it. And now they're paying by what I see or what I understand. Now they're paying,   Oregon. I think they just passed a law going to pass a law that, they're gonna tax all single people because they want,   the woman and men to become,   reproductive   again because they are they are one or the,   most in trouble in population decline in the world. That's all by design too. That's yeah. And and,  

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they're   they're they're going next state. And my understanding is that   the   so the last one that the the the the straw that broke the camel's back   was, because of the growing population of elderly people   and fewer young people, the government passed a law to increase the rate   of the taxation,   income tax   to support the elderly.   And they just had a massive blowout on that.   And so that the MAGA party that just recently won   total sweep,   is the   is the   is a reaction from that. And I think the young people are finally   getting the music that just something is up with this thing. And,   there's a movement   to change that. But they're they're heading towards extinction, definitely.  

And it's by  

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design. I think the whole world, in Europe, and everywhere is having the same thing. Even in Latin America and the,   there in the beginning are almost shrinking   also because they all want to,   follow the big papa western mentality through their movies and all this and modernize and then also go into that direction?   As, Joe said,   it's all by design.  

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Yeah.   I'll I'll tell I'll tell you a funny story. So we were,   we were we were at a at   a at a farm site in the middle of nowhere, and,   you know, in the morning, they, we paid for breakfast service, Japanese   breakfast first just for us. And there was a British guy sitting on the dining table when we came down to eat.   And I'm surprised to see him, like, you know, where'd you come from? Right? So, yeah, I started to strike conversation   and, you know, we're sitting on the dining table.   So, yeah, he says that I found out that there's this farm that does breakfast, so I came to to   to experience this. So he,   you know, he pay he found out about it   through contacts, and he came to eat along with us. I was like, oh, okay. Great experience.  

That's where you're from. You know? You know? To England, we talked about what part what part of England is from stuff like that. So we're striking a conversation.   And, I just found out that he had just, quit his job   and saved as much as he could   and,   just came to Japan to clear his mind   for six weeks.   Just a young man. Turns out he was 24 years old. He looks looks he looked a lot older than that. And,   so my wife   my   wife was next to me, and she doesn't like to have a political conversation. So I was hoping that she would leave. But I really I was itchy to tell him that   y'all need to bring back the guillotine   and,   line up all your politicians   and just   butcher one at a time.  

It's what data to   UK in general is unforgivable.   And it's   it's, it's   it's just there's this total complete destruction of that nation,   and,   they need to reset the clock.   At least we have Trump here.   Nigel Farage   is,   making a change in there. He's,   I guess there's some movement there, but they're just sabotaged   to people   severely over there. Can't even recognize England.   London is some areas of London is like   some Middle East city. I mean, it's just ridiculous.   It's not even funny. And I say that as an immigrant.   Yeah, I mean, you can't do that. If you go   to one of those pick any   third world country.  

Pick one. And   populate that third world country   with some neighboring nation.   They polarize up,   and it would be a total catastrophe.   This is not allowed. It's not allowed anywhere.   Why is it these Europeans   doing   doing the very thing that is not supposed to happen to the wonderful people of Europe? What's the end game?   I don't know. Same thing to Japan.   See that. I don't understand it.   Yeah. Immigration some immigration is good. I think it's, you know,   there's benefits to letting certain level of integration,   occur.  

But that's not   all we're talking about. This is total complete bastard.  

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And They want to join the white people.  

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I don't know what the, tribe member's name is. It's a woman, but she was bragging about it several years ago that she's bringing all the micro or,   Islamics in   into Europe.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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Barbara Lerner Spector probably,  

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Well, everything needs to be homogenized   both religiously   and   in in groups of strong thinking units like nations   so that it can be all blended into this new world order. Right?   Can't have any holdouts. So why would any country be allowed to   have its own people who all think,   culturally one way? Right? It's not happening.  

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Why then I'm missing Africa?   North Africa,   they're taking white people there invading the country.  

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Because Africa is a desert. Oh, all it. Yeah. But no. Ethiopia,  

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Somalia, all those countries. What happened with them? Why they don't pull white people? Because nobody wanna live there.  

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Well,   no.   The whole Africa was colonized. Right? All all all there are 55 I don't see white people running to Africa  

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anyways.  

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Oh, you know.   They don't. But there is Resources. Natural resources to be extracted.   Yeah.   No.   I mean, you know, you know, it's,   it's all about that. Now China is filling that,   old  

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knowledge. In in fact, there's people who say that that whole desert in Northern Africa could be gotten back. All's it have to do   is give the people of Africa enough oil so that there was stop burning wood.   No. That's simple. Do you think anybody cares about that? Yeah.  

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No. Yeah.   Gaddafi did. Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. Got him a gold star.  

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Yeah. Fun, fun. I mean, it was,   there's just a lot going. I mean, they they got people   people out there who are our betters have better plan for us  

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while we'd see it. I just put in a chat room,   while you were saying this happened in different country. And, this,   young man,   he went to, Germany,   and he videoed what's happening in the city.   And,   and you will not recognize with all the immigrants,   all the drugs, everything. And, yeah, I think he took a little risk,   going through that city. If anybody's interested, you should look, and it's very,   educational.  

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Yeah.   They were   you know, Roger talks about   Europa, right, that show? I think that's where I saw it somewhere in there. Yeah. That's serious. Yeah.   Yeah. But later, it's and and the later episodes,   it's got a it's got a scene in there,   where the camera's rolling   and this,   Arab guy is telling a German German man,   something to the effect   of,   we're gonna we're gonna take over your country.   I don't know. I'm paraphrasing. We're taking take over our account your country,   by,   overpopulation.   You marry   and he says you marry and you have one child, maybe two. But our men marry,   10 women   and each one having 10 kids.  

What are you gonna do about it? In your in his face is what are you gonna do about it? Look at Minnesota.   Look at Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah.  

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I just put in the chat room also a Japanese,   Australian.   He was born in Australia.   He went to school. He was the only one in Japanese.   He speaks fluently   with no accent whatsoever   Japanese.   And,   I saw this one a couple of weeks ago.   And,   and, everywhere he goes, they treat him like a a foreigner because he doesn't look like Japanese.   But he is like a Japanese.   He,   he talks like Japanese.   He knows every,   every   part of the culture because he was born there, he went to school,   and they still do not accept him as a Japanese.   And they freaked out when he said they always said, wow. You're Japanese. Very good. He said, I am Japanese,   technically.  

Even though he knows, he's he looks he looks very smart.  

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Yeah. My my opinion on that,   I'll tell you that   I I have   I'm on the other side of the argument.   So,   yeah.   I I completely acknowledge that from   okay. So,   language,   we all have perception. We all perceive.   We all perceive perception has been a very important,   aspect of,   humanity,   right? It's part of survival. You have to have certain level of perception.   And you have to be able to discriminate   good things from bad things.   Things that you're familiar with, things you're not familiar with.   And and then you also have to prejudge.   It's called prejudice. To prejudge. You can prejudge certain outcomes.  

Right? And,   so but all of that is comes from   cultural experiences.   Right?   So,   you know, I really have a hard time blaming a Japanese   Perth   community,   having certain context, certain way of life.   And then someone, just because they speak the language,   and and maybe   somewhat looks like them,   and and,   know how to,   you know, conduct themselves correctly in the culture but look different.   I mean, it's only natural for,   you know, just   a monolithic   community to perceive that this is probably someone from somewhere else.  

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I I think I I agree with you. You when you can, if you if you could grab the chat room,   link,  

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And Mhmm. This time Yeah. I can see it. Mhmm. It's in the showroom.  

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It is it is so hilarious.  

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They hire him. Oh, I see.  

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They hire him, and now he's a baseball broadcaster.   And,   nobody knows he's behind that,   whatever that box or window.   And he   he, announces everything on the baseball game   and they all think he's Japanese until he comes out of the room.   And the perceptions, they change it completely.   So you're absolutely right. But, he says, there's a woman that's interviewing him and he goes everywhere. He buys food and everything. Say it doesn't bother you then? He says, no, it doesn't bother. So he has a very good attitude. But, but I I guess that's few in between then, you know. I guess his parents were there and maybe military. I don't know. And, he was born there and he'd go to school and everything. He was the tallest of all Japanese. I think he's, like, six four. So when you did put a picture   of all the   classmates,   and and he's just he stands out, you know, when he's going to school. So so,   yeah. It's you're right. It's perception. That that sense,   is for all the protection God gave us.  



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Yeah.   Oh, I, bought you the video. Is that him? Oh, where do you look? Yeah. Yeah. It it look it looks like Australia.  

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Okay. Yeah. Portland, Maine. The mayor of Portland, Maine is a woman from Somalia.   My buddy said she looks like she's dressed in living in Mogadishu,   and she just said that she's gonna do everything in her power to help Somalia,   you   know, as a Portland, Oregon mayor.  

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Yeah. Yeah. And then that '82, that Nuna took two and then the house of representatives  

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that, Oh, yeah. With In Minnesota. To  

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in Minnesota.   That's I love that guy, that basketball player.   He tried to   he tried to,   replace Clovishar. So he won he ran against Clovishar.   Man, I forgot   his name.   Yeah. But, yeah, it's crazy. These people are loonies. I mean, you know, they they have handlers, and they're they're regurgitating   what they're told to do. Yeah. You know? But,   it's weird.   And then   yeah.   Anyway, just,   I'm gonna mute for a little bit.  

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Hey, Dave.   What is the best thing for,   a family member for the that you think is,   or you can recommend for the blood pressure, high blood pressure? And she's a woman. Fashion fruit juice.   Repeat that.  

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Passion  

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fruit juice.  

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No. I don't know. I don't understand what you're saying.  

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You know?  

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Okay. Yeah.   Now I understand.  

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Yeah.   That pulls your pressure your blood pressure down.  

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Just to be clear, are you saying passion fruit?  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. That's what I understood.  

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Yeah. Passion fruit.  

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Now I was trying to ask David because he probably has some,   some minerals or something from his,  

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longevity. Would be the,   osteo effects, the   the classic, the mighty 90, and the mineral and the vitamins together,   and then maybe some additional mineral   that would be sort of the bottom   line.  

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We think that,   she was running Gedien because,   many years ago, she had,   mercury   in her teeth and, in her root canal. And when you go and you follow the 32,   medium,   the one that's affecting that tooth is the one that's probably giving her high blood pressure.  

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Yeah. And supposedly,   one of the best ways to detox from heavy metals and stuff is the full   boat of, the vitamins and minerals so that your body   self detoxes. It does it on its own when it has the   building block to do it. That's what doctor Glidden realized. He was doing the EDTA   detox for a lot of his clients, but he when he switched over to Wallach, he realized that was doing a better job of it than EDTA.  

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Magnesium.  

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Well, that would be one of the mighty 90. Right?   But supposedly   full spectrum is   good for all everything,   you know, across the board. I was willing to try different things, you know. I'll definitely get some passion fruit and give it a go too.  

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And they're not trying to kill us. Right? The food is not poison. Mercury does not glow in your teeth.   We don't have no chemtrail falling on top of it.  

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Herbicides and pesticides, that's gonna be an open field completely. The only thing they're gonna need is EPA approval. And, of course,   you know,   they go from one agency to the other and run it. So that's gonna be just open house and no way to sue them.  

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And the and the women,   you need to be equal as the man.   Go take a career, delay all your   your protective.   It's just incredible.   So, Samuel, is Kennedy doing a good thing removing all the   chemical from our food, or he hasn't gone far out yet?   We we removed the dye supposedly and then in the food supply.  

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Couple of days ago. Idea what he's doing or whether he can get anything done or not, I doubt it.   There should you know,   what Joe said the other day, a total agreement. We're basically in a fascist country where these corporations are gonna do anything they want that makes them money regardless of our health.  

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If you are insured on   health policy, the only thing you need to do is go to one of those grocery   chain. And then if there's, I don't know, twenty, thirty rolls of,   they, have on those different foods supposedly in their shelf, you probably have to eliminate   80 of them.   80%   of that because that's those food and those packages did not exist a hundred years ago.  

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Alright.  

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I think they say stick to the perimeter of the   of the food stores and stay out of the aisles   in general.  

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I like that one.   You know, sometimes I get thirsty and I because I'm traveling and I stop one of those I call it a pit stop or gas stations,   and I feel bad for the truck drivers.   Because boy, they're eating there and you see them. And they're tough men. Usually, truck drivers are tough, hardy men.   Look, like, you see their health is   way, way out of hand. But when you stand in one of those refrigerator with all the different type of colors of   of soda and juice and that, and you and   I sometimes I stand and I start looking one by one to see if I could buy something   that,   that, I could enjoy without drinking any chemical. And every time I do that, I come out of there   not even buying one thing.  

It's less incredible, but but they are drinking all those, and they just don't understand. They're just killing themselves, probably even worse than cigarettes.  

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Something without corn syrup  

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is hard to find. And they go to the fountain, then they just refill and refill, and they get the biggest one, one or three months, whatever.   Keep on and and it's it's just,   you know, everybody worry about a six pack of alcohol, but I see people taking   12 packs of, different type of soda and all. And you when you look at them physically, they're not doing good. And, when I was very busy twenty five years ago at 30, sometimes I did a mistake too. And it   trust me. All this insomnia, diabetes,   and headaches, and all the things. And by the time you get to 40, 50, you think you're just getting old. No. You're not getting old. There's all that junk in your system that's is destroying you. And when you're young,   you'll just keep on accumulating that and keep on and by the time it goes ten, twenty years, you're in trouble.  



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