Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

Share on social media:

In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles navigates a wide array of topics, engaging with listeners and sharing insights on the intricacies of national status, trust management, and the broader implications of governance. The discussion opens with a reflection on the show's growing reach and listener engagement, highlighting the importance of platforms like EuroFolk Radio and Global Voice Radio Network. Roger shares updates on the show's performance metrics, noting a significant increase in unique listeners and downloads, which underscores the expanding interest in the topics covered.

As the episode unfolds, Roger is joined by various guests, including Mark, who discusses the importance of trust management in estate planning, and Frank, who shares a real-world example of the complications that can arise from inadequate planning. The conversation also touches on the historical and cultural contexts of governance, with insights into the dual sovereignty doctrine and its implications. Listeners are encouraged to consider the broader impacts of law and governance on personal freedoms, with a focus on the importance of understanding one's legal status and the potential benefits of trust management. The episode is rich with historical references and practical advice, providing a comprehensive look at the intersection of law, governance, and personal liberty.

[00:00:21] Unknown:

This mirror stream is brought to you in part by mymymyboost.com   for support of the mitochondria like never before.   A body trying to function with sluggish mitochondria   is kinda like running an engine that's low on oil. It's not gonna work very well. It's also brought to you by PhatPhix,   p h a t p h   I x,   dot com. And also iTero Planet for the terahertz frequency wand by Preif International.   That's iTeroPlanet.com.   Thank you, and welcome to the program.   Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

[00:01:37] Unknown:

Oh.   Alright. Well,   we too and, taking another swing at it here on the Saturday edition, Sabado,   Saturday edition of the old Radio Ranch.   Roger Sales, your host, and, it is the date stamp of May 17.   May seventeenth. So,   anyway,   I think here, what we usually do, of course, our protocol is to bring,   bring mister Beaner out and Yes. Let him go over the people that are extending our reach. But today, I think we're a little light on that contingent. Are we not?  

[00:02:20] Unknown:

Yeah. We're a little light on the contingent of platforms this morning. We have   EuroFolk Radio and Global Voice Radio Network. No. But two very important  

[00:02:31] Unknown:

big sticks as they say.  

[00:02:33] Unknown:

Well, they were   they were   and, like, Eurofolks,   was the first   plant,   and   Global Voice has been there for the last three years. As long as I've been here, GVN's been there. So Well, we're glad to have all. It's a big temp message.   Well, yeah,   especially considering,   downloads are up 39%   over the last week.   Really? Unique listeners   up 17%   in the last week.   Total downloads of our program since,   parking ourselves on Pod Home is, like, 17,   18,000.  

[00:03:20] Unknown:

Really?  

[00:03:22] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean,   the pod   Pod home server is actually   doing pretty well.  

[00:03:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, of course, what do you have echoed there on this matter of unique visitors, I think, is the terminology.   And   worldwide was first picked up a couple of months ago by David Kaye   Yep. Down there in Abalama. And,   with the,   nationalstatus.com   website.   And, they shot me an email and said, man, we stumbled into this. It   was amazing.   Hell, I think probably some of those countries I never even heard of. Uh-huh. But there's a bunch of them. Okay? And that's of course, that makes you wonder what   who and why and and wherefore. You know?   But regardless, we're happy to have you. And,   hopefully,   even if you're just   on the periphery of the message here and still trying to go, is this guy really know what he's talking about? Yes. Of course. If you're in that era right there, that little area, then, you know, just keep looking and prodding and kicking   kicking the cow patties and see if steam comes out. You   know? Mhmm. If you know if you know what I mean.  

So anyway, well, I think on Saturday, you're supposed to have Mark. Mark, are you with us yet?   Usually, Mark's with us on Wednesday   and Saturday. You there, Mark?   Okay. No Arget. I imagine he'll show up.   We'll see. We were supposed to have Moe back, though.   Yesterday, we dug up a gym, a new a new little, unpolished gym of wanting to be free and very interesting gal. The little we spoke with her from the Bay Area on the Left Coast.   And,   she I'm interested to talk with her a little bit more because she was really pointed in this direction since she'd been looking and, boom, of course, she stumbles on us. And I think she got a little bit of an earful yesterday. And You think? I couldn't. I I probably and I I I couldn't answer a question because it was already in the after show, and   she wanted to know on some of the ways to move forward. And I like to take those subjects when we have them   arise   and do it for the whole audience because the whole audience can learn all these people that have been downloading,   programs and visiting and all that. They don't wanna come on and talk with us. They're scared or something, apprehensive, whatever. It's alright. It's alright.  

But they can get that filled in a little bit more. So I was hoping Moe and don't forget, she's gotta get up early because she's out there on the left side. You know? And I and I understand that.   And she also said she worked two jobs.   If I remember correctly, Paul.   Yep. So You do. Moe, did you have you made it up? Does Moe made it? Hold on. Let's just see. We'll we'll, we'll do a   call here, a clarion call. Moe, have you, made it up yet?   Ain't got your coffee down or anything?   Well, I'm sure hoping she shows up today. I like new students as you know. And, of course, she was,   this is this one's very interesting   because   she's an she's an immigrant who naturalized.  



[00:06:40] Unknown:

Naturalized at an early age.  

[00:06:42] Unknown:

Yes. Naturalized. And usually that see, this is something I don't know. If it's is there some age on a child where when the parents naturalized, the child is automatically naturalized? Does the child have to go through the whole procedure? See these things, I just don't know. You know? I am. We   never really well, that's one of the reasons I wanted to speak with her. And she said she'd done a privacy request and went back in all of those documents. I don't know how long ago that happened,   but all of those documents were in her file, and they they reflected it in her privacy.   And that makes me let me tell you why that makes me mad.  



[00:07:20] Unknown:

Why?  

[00:07:21] Unknown:

When I was in Argentina, you know, after when the car wreck happened,   and a couple of Americans got into my,   house and stole some gold and it's just all kinds of stuff, man, including my passport.   And so, I just had it. You know? I hadn't had it a year hardly yet.   And so, then I had to get a replacement. That's why I say if you get a passport stolen,   oh my lord. It's a nightmare.   Yeah. You you gotta you gotta go back. You gotta, first of all, put in a lost or stolen thing. Now that automatically   triggers you back to a d s 11, the first one. Yep. And, so I'm dealing with the,   I'm dealing with the embassy down there in VA   and on this.  

But and the critical element was because I turned 62 and became eligible for Social Security.   And I was gonna get that Social Security so I didn't have to sell gold to live. K? So that that was my motivation.   Well, I was highly motivated.   Paul, I was I was highly motivated. Yeah. So,   anyway,   I talking back and forth with the embassy, and   because you put a lost and stolen thing in, now it automatically   goes back to a d s 11.   If you go back to a d s 11, you've gotta have a certified copy of your birth certificate for one thing. You don't have to have it after that, but you gotta have it for that. Even though I'd had it to get the original passport and it was only two years old, and I'm dealing with the person down there at the embassy, I said she said, well, you gotta have an original copy of your birth certificate. Well, I didn't have one. You you're gonna go travel internationally. You always carry a certified copy of birth certificate, don't you, Paul? Of course, you do. Yeah. Only after.   Oh, crap. So, anyway,   she says, well, you gotta have that. I said, look. I just got this two years ago.  

And and you should still have now we throw that. We get rid of that stuff.   And and so when that conversation,   she said, well, you gotta have a certified copy of your birth certificate. I said, well, Obama doesn't have to have one. Why do I have to have one? Oh, good lord. Back in the in the Obama years.  

[00:09:33] Unknown:

And,  

[00:09:34] Unknown:

the whole birth certificate thing was a hot issue. You know? She said, nope. You gotta have one. So that delayed everything because then I had to get   somebody from The States to send them down there. Anyway, this is the kind of stuff you go through in this passport thing if you get one lost or stolen, and you gotta go through and get all these really fundamental documents again. And   when you're at I said, can't won't can't a JPEG copy do? Nope. Nope. It's gotta be a copy of the original.  

[00:10:03] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:10:04] Unknown:

Oh, no. We don't keep that stuff except for with Moe. When she naturalized as a young girl, they've kept everything, and she got it. More lies out of these people.  

[00:10:14] Unknown:

You know?  

[00:10:15] Unknown:

Well,   the what that means is that the person that you talked to just didn't wanna be bothered to go look it up.  

[00:10:24] Unknown:

Probably true. And, you see, what you don't understand is a lot of times   when you're dealing with a foreign embassy,   they hire, especially The US, they hire local people in those administrative positions,   not as the head, but as the assistant maybe, etcetera.   So a lot of times you're dealing with them. Hell, they're not even American.   You know, I had another one. And and back then, I used to actually get checks sent.   And   that's all revolves around Argentina.   Nobody will wire money in Argentina.  

[00:10:55] Unknown:

Oh, no.  

[00:10:57] Unknown:

Oh, hell. They don't even they don't Apple won't even open up a store down there. Okay?   So, anyway, you've got all that baggage and all that stuff. And,   it is, it can be quite challenging. I'm gonna tell you.   So and that was eventually one of the reasons I left,   was   the getting funds   into Argentina. It was just a nightmare, man. Yeah. So if you if you   if I went to the ATM, which they have all those ATMs, I could have tapped into the   account. But when you get your funds, they give you the government exchange rate instead of the open market exchange rate, which can be when you're talking about, you know, a little bit of a little bit of wherewithal.   It can be substantial, that difference right there. It'll shock you. Okay? So if you go to the ATM, you get the government rate. And, so you don't go to the ATM. So it's just a nightmare, man.  

I love Argentina.   I had a great time down there. It's a wonderful   country. Unfortunately, as as I was saying at at Tango, it's dancing, you know, Tango down there. And we were at practice or something one night, Paul, and there's an older couple   there. And the   when you're a foreigner in these countries, they're always very curious.   They they wanna know,   what do you like about it here? Why are you here? You know, all that kind of stuff.   And so, they were,   I was talking to them through a translator, and,   and I was telling them how much I liked their country. You know? And the the gentleman said,   Argentina   is a fine country.  

It's just too bad it's so full of Argentinians.  

[00:12:38] Unknown:

Yeah.   Hey. Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Oh, Mark showed up. I got two things. I got two things. First of all, when Moe showed up yesterday   Yeah. I cannot tell you how every single fiber of my being wanted to ask her how Larry and Curly were.  

[00:12:57] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. But you didn't. You held yourself. I didn't. I didn't. I held back.  

[00:13:03] Unknown:

And but call. I'm glad you got some restrain.   Yes. But,   mister straw man, mythology   king,   tell us today   what crap you will bring.  

[00:13:15] Unknown:

Oh, I know. See, I know what crap he's bringing today.   And, and I was kinda gonna   I was gonna I was gonna don't don't hit my eye. Well, I'll put my fingers up there.   I was, hoping you'd come on, Mark, and kind   of tap dancing, hopefully, till you got here.   But   what I was gonna say, maybe some of the early folks drift in,   you know, on Saturday.   They might still be going to the bathroom or getting a cup of coffee or something. Yeah. The numbers are going up. So you Okay. Okay. Well, this I think this   slow. Well, I think this announcement   that I received and forwarded to you and Paul last night is important. I researched that.  

Yeah. And, well, I know the source.   But when I, I wanted to get enough people on board because it's kind of a I think you'd probably both agree it's kind of an important announcement. Right? For some people, certainly.  

[00:14:15] Unknown:

Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:14:18] Unknown:

So, Mark, how are you doing this morning?  

[00:14:21] Unknown:

Well, I just, wrapped up cooking. I sat down and tried to put my lapel mic on, and this wouldn't connect right to my apron.   So that's my my chef's apron that I use. I'm no chef, but Yes, sir. Yes, sir.  

[00:14:35] Unknown:

Anyway You know,   a beer? Yeah. So are you on the lavalier now, or did you use the mic? Oh, you're on the lavalier because it sounds good right now. Okay. Okay.   I'm just having the right spot then. And, you know, the other thing is as we get older, it's good to have that apron on because as we get older, and I noticed this constantly,   I am always spilling crap on myself. I didn't used to do that when I was younger, but I feel like the the old guy. You know, you look down, there's all half your meals on your shirt. You know? Yeah.   And and it's, you know, it compounded, of course, by my by my eyesight.  

Mark, do you remember   seeing,   any of these emails? They were around about thirty years ago. What this one in particular.   And it was a list of things that you talk about when you're young   and then you talk about when you're old. Right?   Okay.   Do you remember those?   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, the one that stuck in my mind is when you're young,   you talk about political movements.   And when you're old, you talk about bowel movements.   That's true. That's very true. And the reason the reason that's so funny to me is because it's true. Okay? Yeah. All the things that are funny are really true. You know?  

[00:15:55] Unknown:

So anyway, that sticks in my mind occasionally. I'm I'm more along the lines of what's what I'm always thinking about is we're completing the cycle. You know, you, you come in this world naked, hungry and, and, you know, wearing diapers and that's pretty much the way you leave. You go out. Yeah.  

[00:16:13] Unknown:

Yeah.   So  

[00:16:15] Unknown:

Oh, lordy. Yeah. From diapers to diapers.  

[00:16:18] Unknown:

Yeah. Right.   And everything in between.  

[00:16:23] Unknown:

Did Mo Now they call it now they call it disposable  

[00:16:26] Unknown:

underwear, but it's basically the same thing. Oh, we're just changing the labels again. Did Moe make it, with us yet? Is Moe showed up yet, or do we we're we're gonna tap dance, and, hopefully, she shows up. She works two jobs. Right. She seemed to think yesterday she could fit that into   our schedule today. And, of course,   oh, if you don't make it today, we can do this pretty much anytime except for Friday, generally.   But, I'd I'd love to help you out, and you sound like a wonderful student to work with. So we'll just await your   arrival. In the interim, though, we yes, sir. Yes, sir. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step on you. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say in the interim, maybe we ought to make this announcement because I I don't want the folks that are here hanging on the thread. And   that's a pretty damn important announcement. And so I got it   I got it from, my teacher, Glenn Ambor, last night who   doesn't mess around with this stuff too much anymore,   but does still have those tentacles in it, obviously,   because he sent out this little email last night. I had not heard this mentioned on any of the shows I listened to. I don't go chasing headlines and stuff anymore because of my eyesight.  

But,   anyway, fairly significant announcement. You want   to, I'll give you the drum roll, Mark.  

[00:17:47] Unknown:

Well,   Trump has really laid into the IRS.   Excuse me just a second.   Clear my throat.   Yep.   But,   they were Reuters sent out several,   press releases,   over the past couple of days.   And so,   Trump's initiated   layoff.   They've implemented layoff at the IRS with reports indicating that approximately   6,000 to 7,000   IRS employees were laid off starting February 20.   These layoffs were primarily targeted for patient employees   with less than one or two years of service   and were part of the broader effort to reduce the federal workforce through the Department of Government Efficiency,   DODE,   led by Elon Musk. Now here's the further cut that you're   referring to.  

Sources indicate that the administration   aims to reduce the IRS workforce significantly   with plans to cut up to 20 to 25%   of the agency's   approximately   100,000   employees   by mid May.   We're already in mid May,   potentially affecting 20,000   to 25,000   workers,   and that includes the initial six to 7,000 layoffs.   So around 5,000 employees who took buy or excuse me.   About 500 employees,   took buyout and additional plan reduction.   And then on top of all of this,   let's see where this is stuck.  

[00:19:26] Unknown:

Freeze on IRS audits on January 20. That's what I was waiting for. That's what I'm waiting for right there. Yeah.  

[00:19:34] Unknown:

Yeah. And this was,   see who this is from.   This is also from, Thompson Reuters,   and the article that was pulled from was journalofaccountancy.com.   And so they reported that on 01/20/2025,   president Trump signed an executive order imposing a federal hiring freeze,   which applies   indefinitely   to the IRS until the treasury sector secretary   in consultation with other officials listed.   This freeze has led to the cancellation of job offers   and has halted new hiring   exacerbating,   staffing shortages.   And let me let me just to find we're talking about the audit. Impact on audit operations.   The layoffs and audit freeze,   I guess I skipped that part.  

Oh here it is, memorandum   described as cease and desist, order was issued to the IRS,   freezing audits to protect middle class families   and small businesses   from increased scrutiny.   This action   announced around January 22 is intended to remain in effect   until the Treasury Secretary determines   it is in the national interest to lift it. The freeze is linked to concerns about the IRS's ten ninety nine ks   reporting scheme which critics argue burdened gig workers   and small businesses. So the gig workers are the people   who drive for Uber and and do those,   just   kinda   Disc jockeys.  

Yeah. They deliver food and, yeah, gig workers like that. Some of them just do independent work over the Internet.   So they're saying that this ten ninety nine k,   is burdensome   to those gig workers and small businesses.   If I'm not mistaken,   you know, when   if you're a small business, maybe you   have reported to the IRS, you wanna be considered   a subchapter as sole proprietorship,   you gotta fill out a 10 k on on that. So,   you know, it's this is Roger why why your program is so   awesome because you can   just sidestep all that baloney. I mean, it's it's awesome.   We've got a few people listening on here that   2024   was the last year they'll ever file   a business tax return.  

They rescinded, they revoked   their subchapter s status   and set it up so that all all money flows directly to them instead of going to the subchapter s.   So there's a lot of people on here that's now totally sidestepped   that that   filing requirement for the business, and it simplifies any   potential   requirements for filing that they may have personally.  

[00:22:33] Unknown:

Congratulations   to you folks that that is affected by this.   And I would like to thank somebody, you know, we've had, like, Michael on lately that was really terrified of these people and couldn't get over that. I understand that. Not putting him down at all. But this should ease your mind a little bit. If they've cut,   what, twenty, twenty five thousand out of a hundred thousand employees,   they're they're all those extracurricular   activities that they used to do,   those are probably pretty much gonna be totally halted,   be my guess. Yeah. K? Yeah.  

Along along with the audience audits, of course. Now the   I guess you could get your get across with these people over an audit differential. Generally,   that's not too bad. You know, when they audited Alex   here on these trials and stuff,   the IRS gave 4 and a half   4 and a half million dollars back. Did you know that, man? Yeah.  

[00:23:33] Unknown:

It went straight to his creditors.  

[00:23:36] Unknown:

Right.   Yeah.   But, okay. We're we got an echo that came into somewhere. What what's going on here, Paul? I think that's me.  

[00:23:45] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:23:45] Unknown:

You're fired.  

[00:23:48] Unknown:

Yeah. No. No. No. No. You're not. You're not.  

[00:23:52] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:23:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I didn't well, I don't I've I've just been having a terrible time with computers this morning. I mean, nothing is working right. Nothing. Uh-huh. So,  

[00:24:03] Unknown:

anyways feel your pain.  

[00:24:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Now   I don't okay. Yeah. Yeah. Trump is commander in chief and all that happy stuff, and he is the CEO of the corporation. Whatever.   But the IRS is an individual   agency,   isn't it? It's an agency.  

[00:24:22] Unknown:

It is. It's quasi.   K? And you've green sperm when he was up there. I said, well, it's a unique type of agency, and they can't fire us and this, that, and the other, and they are.   They're unique in the fact that they had to give them some sort of an, agency presence   to be able to pull off the scam that they're foreign agents.   Right. K. But under all their foreign agents, and they're under the total directives   of the secretary of the treasury who is totally locked in as the governor of the International Monetary Fund   Right. And oversees the country in bankruptcy that Brent doesn't think we're in. You know? Okay. So so the secretary of the treasury  

[00:25:05] Unknown:

is the head of the International Monetary Fund, and that over The gov the gov the governor is what it says in the code. Okay. He's the governor of the International Monetary Fund, and the IMF is over   the federal   or over the IRS.  

[00:25:23] Unknown:

Or is the IMF over the Federal Reserve? No. No. The secretary reserve the secretary of the treasury is over the IRS totally and completely,   and that's the governor of the fund. So that's how they're locked into the International Monetary Fund.  

[00:25:36] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:25:37] Unknown:

Who pays them?  

[00:25:39] Unknown:

But they're still at arm's legs. International  

[00:25:41] Unknown:

Monetary. Government. Yeah. I don't know. I've never seen one of their paycheck stubs, Dave. I don't know whether they pay them. I would imagine they probably pay them through the treasury,   but there's still, directives of the International Monetary Fund. Go ahead, Paul.  

[00:25:56] Unknown:

Well, if but they're still at arm's length to the federal government, so the federal government would have limited control over it at the agency level.  

[00:26:04] Unknown:

Well, they got enough control over it to do what they're doing right here evidently, and I'm sure Bassant is in agreement with this or they wouldn't have announced that because, ultimately, it's his call the way I understand it. And I've heard people inside the IRS say that.   Okay. If I may?  

[00:26:21] Unknown:

Alright. I was just curious. Ma'am? How  

[00:26:25] Unknown:

member member o Biden appointed   87,000   new   IRS agents? How did he do that?  

[00:26:35] Unknown:

Well, he did go to Congress. I'd be well, they have to evidently they have to evidently get the congress's approval to do that kind of stuff. He did it. I don't know what Trump has done with them. The best idea I had for any of those creeps, and I think maybe   some of them that did stay on were sent down to the southern border, okay,   which would be fantastic. Do you know that one of those groups, of course, they're trained in firearms and stuff,   and they were on the training range,   with an instructor. And one of the IRS,   people shot the instructor accidentally.  



[00:27:10] Unknown:

Right. I remember you saying that. Hey. And while Trump's at it, he should lay off the Supreme Court.  

[00:27:18] Unknown:

Well, two thirds of them anyway.   So,   Roger. Regardless,   I wanted to I wanted to make that announcement on Trump,   infringing upon the IRS. And,   I can't imagine why anybody on our side wouldn't wouldn't love mister Trump at this point,   but I'm sure there's some that don't. Larry, how are you doing this morning, bro? What you got?  

[00:27:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Good morning.  

[00:27:45] Unknown:

What did Dave say that Biden appointed how many IRS workers? Eighty seven eighty seven thousand. Remember they're gonna put in 87,000   new IRS workers there at the end of the Biden term?  

[00:27:58] Unknown:

Yeah. I believe I read an article a few months ago that Congress would not approve that.  

[00:28:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I don't remember whether they did or not. He was trying to appoint them though, and I thought they had already been appointed.   I I don't know. I I just don't know the specifics on this. But I do know that one of them, they must have got appointed, Larry, because one of them accidentally shot the shooting instructor at the range. That made   news.  

[00:28:25] Unknown:

Yeah. And to answer, Paul's question,   you and I are both aware of that court case   that during the during,   the interrogatories,   I think it was request for admission.   Yeah. It was a medals case. Something that was IRS would not admit that they were an agency of the US government. It went go on the official,   government website, it says that they are a bureau of the Department of the Treasury.  

[00:28:51] Unknown:

Correct. Under this, secretary of the Treasury, and,   it was the interrogatory.   That admission was not from the IRS.   The person being   deposed was a US Attorney.   That was from a US Attorney.  

[00:29:07] Unknown:

Yes. You are correct.  

[00:29:09] Unknown:

And the answer for the audience who may not know this, this was Ralph Winter Root's research,   and he went back and found a deposition   of a court case. It was the one the the defendant was a metals   company of some sort.   I I don't I don't know what they diversified metals or something.   And in that exchange, they asked her in the deposition, is the IRS a government agency? And the US Attorney came back and said no. K? And they're not totally a government agency. They're under the International Monetary Fund. Just like Woodrow Wilson said about the tax system that was proposed for the Chinese   a hundred and twenty years ago that were attached to that loan   and administered by foreign agents.  

There it is.  

[00:29:59] Unknown:

Capit? Roger, that was that's diversified   metal products versus   T Bow Company Trust. T Bow is t dash b o w.   And we actually had a a certified,   copy of that with Dan Nutter.  

[00:30:15] Unknown:

With Dan. Yep.   Yep. So there's a deal, and and that's their blueprint back to that. That's why that original   find of mine so many years ago, the very first thing I ever found that really nailed this for me. I'd already read Phil Marsh's book. I'd seen Phil Marsh. I had a back at least a basis of this time frame, etcetera,   and, I already knew about the Federal Reserve and all that. And so I go to the Cobb County Library. None of this stuff is on was on the Internet yet. Internet was in its fledgling   start of email and bulletin boards and all that stuff. This is in the early nineties, '90 '2.  

And so,   I went down to Cobb County Library, which I can never think of the Cobb County Library   without thinking of the one whole wall of that is windows,   and it oversees   a   well, it's a lovely,   Confederate   cemetery   there, quite large, actually,   and, kinda rolling hills like North Georgia is and and and the solemnness   of having to look at that. Anyway,   I went to the research, part of the library,   and and I found a book. It was red. It had a red cover on it. It said historical legal documents.   And so I already knew the time frame, so I went in and started looking around   1930.  

And boom, there it was. And there's this Woodrow Wilson document   with the whole blueprint right there. It's called if you're new and heard this, it's called,   Repudiation   of Dollar   Diplomacy.   Woodrow Wilson,   repudiation   of dollar diplomacy, and it's about a loan that was he was approached by a consortium of New York bankers, four or five of them. You can usually you can pretty well guess who they were. And, they wanted him to un to cosign on this loan to China of a hundred million dollars. They're floating a bond. And and so,   what, they they did is Woodrow Wilson would not sign it. It was early in his administration,   I believe.  

And this is a very short document. It's only a couple paragraphs, and this one is all about the tax system. He says it was this is just such accurate language.   The tag the proposed tax system is burdensome   and antiquated.   Burdensome   and antiquated. Boy, if those aren't two good descriptors   of the tax   code, you'll never find the better ones.   Burdensome and antiquated   and administered by foreign agents.   That's what with Wilson put in there, and that's why he declined that loan.   Now you wanna tell you that further   with all of this, world   geopolitical stuff that's going on, physical wars, real wars, kinetic wars, and then wars like this right here.  

Because what happened with that hundred million dollars is the bankers went ahead and loaned it to China.   It was supposedly to build the railroad,   and the Chinese never made   one payment.   Now this is what you're dealing with with the Chinese.   This was before the communist took over. They never paid one payment.   And so at the   point where   the Brits gave Hong Kong back to China,   is that thirty, forty years ago, back before February   at some point.   And they gave Hong Kong and, back to China, and part of that agreement was the Chinese had to pay off the British bondholders,   which evidently they did, Rothschilds. I don't know how many there were, but I do know that I was watching a program called China's Tonight with that kid Phillips,   that kinda runs the epic time stuff,   and he had a gal on there. I've talked about this before. It's really important, though. And nobody else knows this because of that one piece of paper that I found so far ago, long ago, that deals with this very issue right here. And so,   she was the head. She was an attorney. She's the head of a   company that trades   bonds. They trade debt between countries.  

And,   she stated   that she was aware of that debt. It was still owed to the Americans.   They didn't they paid off the British when they got Hong Kong, but they hate America. They ain't paying off any Americans.   And, evidently, there was 20,000   American bondholders in that loan.   20,000.   Okay? Well, they've never been paid a penny.   Not a not a not a single   Lincoln penny.   And so what she said on there was, I have   been in with president Trump, and he knows about this.   So from the first term,   Trump knows about this.   And so those 20,000   bondholders   with not one payment being paid to them over all this hundred plus years,   that you wanna know about compound interest and why they call it the eighth wonder of the world?  

I don't know if it was $50.50, if that was $50,000   they 50,000,000 they put into this loan or whatever.   Or they're responsible for that 20,000 American bondholders,   but it has compounded   into, and this was a couple years ago now,   1,700,000,000,000.0.   So that   50,000,000   has compounded   over the time to 1,700,000,000,000.0.   They've never made a payment on that to the American bondholders.   It's still open, and the the gal there says, oh, yeah. We trade debts like this every day, you know, between countries.   And so here's what the possibility   could be, and Trump's never mentioned this, but obviously knows about it.  

She said twice that she'd been in front of him with it.   So what Trump could do is take that   20,000   bondholders that have never received a single penny,   pay them 5 to 10¢ on the dollar, found money for them. They're never gonna see anything out of it.   No telling what it would accumulate to.   But regardless, they get something for it. They they give their,   nonperforming   bonds   over to mister Trump, and then mister Trump feeds back 1,700,000,000,000.0   in debt   to the 1,200,000,000,000.0   that we owe the Chinese.   Every month, just feed them back their own debt.   That's all it has to do. Of course, it'd probably crash   the whole world financial system, but, but that's sitting out there just awaiting. And the only reason we know about it and understand it is to really   well, I don't know. What do you call them? You know? What do you call them when I go into a library and find that piece of paper right there? That whole damn library, and that's what it is, a blueprint   for what they do.  

And then,   watching,   Phillips that night when he's interviewing this gal on the bond stuff. The only reason you could put all that together. So   it's an interesting situation. It's still sitting out there. Virtually nobody knows about it except us and a few people on the inside that may be privy   to this information.   But, I thought that's pretty interesting, Mark.   So we come out a half a trillion dollars ahead with China.  

[00:37:44] Unknown:

Wow. That's amazing.  

[00:37:46] Unknown:

It is, isn't it? Yeah. 50,000,000   to 1,700,000,000,000.0.   You wanna know why Einstein called compound interest the eighth wonder of the world?   That that right there right there is the example for you.  

[00:38:01] Unknown:

Roger. I would agree.  

[00:38:03] Unknown:

Larry, what you got on your mind this morning? We hadn't seen Moe pop up. Moe, are you out there?   Okay. Moe didn't make it. Go ahead, Larry.  

[00:38:13] Unknown:

Yeah. So a little while ago, you brought up your disagreement with Brent on the bankruptcy. And from what I heard,   Brent believes and argued that the federal government being a sovereign,   cannot be in bankruptcy. He said the US government has the authority to create courts   like the bankruptcy   courts. And so his conclusion was the sovereign or creator cannot be subject to its creation.  

[00:38:37] Unknown:

And it appears that you disagree with that, yet Brent makes a very good valid point. Well, he does. And I'm not saying Brent see, here's the problem with all these things with Brent. He looks at these strictly from a lawyer. Is there a statute or something that says you're bankrupt?   Well, no. There's not. They've hidden it.   Now there is one that shows about a month after the bankruptcy.   I think it's HH   r or h j R 90 2. It's from the the house joint resolution or something with the senate, and they came out and said all the property in The United States is is owned by   the United States government, by the federal government. And then there's that famous little sentence. Hold on. There's that little sentence at the end of the paragraph that says,   except by operation of law.  

K?   So and and but but I we see, here's the problem. I've told Brent cannot think like our enemies think. He refuses to do it.   And if you don't think like they think and understand their MO, you you you're not gonna see this because they don't put it right there in the surface. They don't want you to know. They didn't bankrupt it domestically,   Larry. They bankrupted it in the bond market.   Inter that's an international market.   Okay? And I don't know all the intricacies   of it, but I do know, and I told Brent this one time before in in congressman Lewis t McFadden's book,   there, one of the chapters,   it says,   it's and don't forget, he was the head of the bank House Banking Committee at that time and had been from the time he was in congress for fifteen years at that point. A former banker   gets up in front of congress and says, ladies and gentlemen, the congress of the United States is bankrupt.  

The English auditors are in the treasury. There's 21 French limousines waiting outside,   etcetera, etcetera. And Brent's response to that was McFadden's a politician.   Well, McFadden wasn't it was not his politician. He was a statesman,   evidenced by the fact that the last time that he got elected, he was nominated by the Democrats,   the Republicans,   and the populist party. All three parties nominated the same guy. Tell me any other time that's happened to anybody.   So I take mister McFadden at his word. I as I explained,   the the basic of it is we were on a gold standard, and we went to a paper standard. What happened?  

They switched the systems.   Free people use real money. They can buy things and own them because no one has a property right on them. When they took the gold away, that's the significance of the changing of the system. Now we what was it say in blacks?   Reopen five days later with regulations under the secretary of the treasury. Well, boy, that's interesting, isn't it? We didn't have a secretary of the treasury before. There weren't, to my knowledge, regulations.   Okay?   And and the the and the, the the the   the the G. G. Schroeder   piece says that right after '33,   what was the first thing that happened? They started instituting   licenses   in the area of agriculture   for people in the wholesale part of agriculture.  

They never had to have licenses before. What does all that tell you, Larry? Do I have to have a damn statute that says The US is bankrupt, Or do I have the mental acuity to put all those things together and come up with a conclusion?   Larry,   hold on.   I'm answering Larry's question. Larry, did that answer your question?   Brent, as I've told y'all, Brent cannot   think like these people think.   He can't admit that old Scratch has tricked him.  

[00:42:30] Unknown:

Yeah. I I just I keep an open mind is all. You know? I do see Brent's perspective, and I do see yours. I understand what you're saying. And I don't want I lean toward   agreeing with Eugene Schroeder, by the way. So Yeah. But Brett did make a good point.  

[00:42:46] Unknown:

How can you take all this evidence to just show do you think the people that are gonna bankrupt the country are gonna put it in some kind of a damn statue? The US is bankrupt?   They do all this under the sly, man.  

[00:43:00] Unknown:

Well, it goes along the same lines as, you know, everyone's trying to look for state citizen   or, I mean, the national status in all of these court cases.  

[00:43:11] Unknown:

And even if it was, it was probably sealed. You won't find it. Right? You Tom, you don't think they're gonna put this out there where you can read, oh, yeah. Roger was right. Look at this. You think they're gonna do that, really?   Are you are you that naive at this point?   Is the question.   We know how these guys work.   Right. And also, why if it isn't true,   why have we gone fourteen years without one single issue issue of blowback from the federal government, Larry?   If this was wrong, buddy, they'd have been all over us years ago.   They won't Oh, I agree. 10 foot pole. Okay?  

Alright. So enough of that. Who, who was a female there? Was it John? Or  

[00:44:00] Unknown:

No. Julie.  

[00:44:02] Unknown:

Oh, yes. Julie. Okay. Hello.   Good morning. Hi, Heather. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry about,   so there's always next year. Go ahead. Yep. That's okay.  

[00:44:12] Unknown:

You're right. Roger's a % right right. Our country's in,   receivership,   and Brent is wrong, and the government is the debtor, and we are the sovereigns.   And,   speaking of the IRS, that ties in to I know you don't like this, our all caps name. If you go to dunandbradstreet.com   and you type in internal revenue service, you'll see that the internal revenue service, capital I, lowercase,   n t e r n a l, capital r, lowercase e v e n, and then capital s, lowercase rest.   That's the subsidiary organization   on,   Constitution Avenue that I pass when I go to the caps games, and that is,   functioning as a bureau   under the Department of Treasury. But then you're gonna see   so many more that are in their all caps names. So there's the internal revenue service in in 77   K Street Northeast, Washington DC. And if you look at who the principal is there, it's a guy who was in charge of accounting   and auditing.  

And then you'll see that all caps internal revenue services has branches all over, not only The United States, but they're in all every single country.   And then, by the way, h r HJR one ninety two, as long as as well as the public law that went along with that were both repealed.   I have the evidence.   So we are, they're using us, as you have said all the time,   correctly,   as warehouse house receipts in our labor   to finance everything,   through the IRS is through those payments and everything that they're stealing from us.  

[00:45:48] Unknown:

Yep.   So all those meticulous things I mean, okay. All cap letters.   Does all cap letters have anything to do with their jurisdiction over me?  

[00:46:01] Unknown:

Well, not not if you're a national, but I think if you're not a national, then  

[00:46:06] Unknown:

it's  

[00:46:09] Unknown:

just it's not a point to me. I've been dealing with it for thirty something years. K?  

[00:46:14] Unknown:

So I'm really digging into the stuff that I told you I was gonna dig into.   Okay. Roger, so I'm You're what you're talking about. So I'm not gonna say anything. I'll you just wait till I have all my dot i's already in my t's. Alright. The what does that denote?  

[00:46:30] Unknown:

And when I get my passport back after   putting in the national thing, it's got all cap letters on it. So what does that mean? That overrides my affidavit?  

[00:46:41] Unknown:

No. It's it means that you haven't taken control of your minor estate. You're still there's still Well, I don't have it. I've got total I've got control over my minor and my major  

[00:46:51] Unknown:

estate, and it's sitting in a safe deposit box down in Uruguay.  

[00:46:58] Unknown:

I'm talking about, you know, the corrupt banks that are functioning as utility companies. Your your real minor estate is,   that was it was down in the treasury department at Puerto Rico and then with Basel three. They took all your individual,   Okay. CUSIP,   minor estates, and they pulled them together like they do mortgages. And they're now hiding it under the   Okay. Well under the IMS.  

[00:47:24] Unknown:

As long as that paper's in possession of the secretary, I don't give a damn what they do, quite frankly.   Okay? And there's nothing I can do that's gonna change them from doing what they would have done otherwise Sure. In my mind. So my deal is, just like I said, when they stole $5,000   more out of my house closing than I owed according to them, the apothecated   bullshit,   and they wrote me back a letter and said, we took 5,000 more than you owe. So   it's just because of what we think you might owe in the future.   Now I could have gone back to court and gotten that. K? I believe.  

See the But I was so glad to be rid of these   parasitic pieces of crap. I call them the individuals representing Satan because that's what they are. Okay? I was so glad to get those bastards out of my life. I said, you take your 5,000.   I'll get it back later. And guess what, Julie? When you and Larry and everybody else pulled themselves out of the tax system,   I got just a little   bit back on that huge amount they owe me because I got penalties and interest too.   So that's where it stands.   So I take their nose   I take their nose like the puppy that crapped on the carpet   and rub it right in it.  

Yes, Paul.  

[00:48:46] Unknown:

I'm looking for  

[00:48:47] Unknown:

bastards.  

[00:48:48] Unknown:

I'm looking for Wilson's repudiation of dollar diplomacy,   and,   it's very difficult to find. I'm I was weird. It's  

[00:48:58] Unknown:

always come up with first thing for me, Woodrow Wilson, you could put it in quotations and then repudiation of dollar diplomacy and   quotations. I've it's it's out there somewhere. It's always come up for me unless they've scrubbed the web of it, which I think Well, I could've I could've sworn that I had it. And  

[00:49:17] Unknown:

the only thing that I can come to that's close   is,   when   when I search for,   Wilson dollar diplomacy.   While Woodrow Wilson did not directly implement a dollar diplomacy policy as president William Howard Taft did, he did have a foreign policy approach that was influenced by it and eventually replaced it. To clarify,   dollar diplomacy was primarily associated with Taft and his administration   from nineteen o nine to 1913.   Wilson's moral diplomacy was later a later approach   that emphasized moral and ethical principles in foreign policy shifting away from the economic focus of dollar diplomacy.   Instead of focusing on economic influence as dollar diplomacy did, moral diplomacy   aimed to promote democracy and self determination,   especially in Latin America.  

That was that was the AI overview of it.  

[00:50:20] Unknown:

Alright.   Well, all I know is it used to come up. I saw the piece of paper in the book originally. I've looked talked about it on the air a number of times over the years. Every time we've ever brought it up and you put it in a search engine, it popped right up. So that's all I know. And, well, I'm I could've sworn that I found  

[00:50:40] Unknown:

I located   and found it and put it in the   archives here, but I can't find it.  

[00:50:49] Unknown:

Well, we're getting so much information. There's so damn much information on this stuff out there, and you you get start throwing it on the website.   And, it just all of a sudden, it almost becomes unorganized because there's just a ton of information out there.   But, again, you gotta know what you're looking for.  

[00:51:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Tell me about it.   And it's just keeping, keeping all this stuff straight as a full time job.  

[00:51:14] Unknown:

Yep. Yeah. Well, that's when we pay you the big bucks, Paul. That's when we pay you the big budget.   Yes. Is that Sam?  

[00:51:23] Unknown:

Samuel.  

[00:51:25] Unknown:

Senor   Buenas.  

[00:51:28] Unknown:

Yeah. You know, the other day, Brent also qualified that statement by saying that   the nation, or whatever you want to call this behemoth, is sovereign.   I take that as blasphemy.   The only sovereign in this particular country   is the political   collective of the people, and preferably those people who didn't sell out to the fourteenth amendment.   But that's the true sovereign in this country. We didn't elect a kingship   and a rulership.   It's our will that's supposed to be done here, and we're the images   of God,   not some corporation.  

I don't know where Brent's coming from on that one.  

[00:52:09] Unknown:

Well, I don't know. He made the statement that the all the original fourteenth amendment citizens are dead.   Well, but, man, the original ones, but, hell, everybody's still answering the question yes when they ask you. If you're one, it's in the damn constitution.   So,   that we just see, Brent pursues this   on he doesn't wanna admit that they've tricked him. They pulled this off.   And he wants to see things stated because he's an attorney. He, doesn't have the ability to think like our enemies think. And that's what I've been telling him for years. You know, we had this those discussions years ago. Samuel, I don't even remember if you were privy and around back then. I think you probably were. But one day, I said to Brent, I said, Brent,   you've got to think like they think.  

Now is that a true statement? Yes.   And Brent's response,   but I don't wanna think like they think.   I understand.   But you don't have to think like they think. But you do have to know   how they think. If you don't, you're gonna approach these situations   and and not see it.   If you don't know their MO, you don't know their plausible deniability   fall back, and you don't know all that, you won't he understand it as easily. Because you gotta admit, we don't think like they do. And Brent's a victim of that right there. Brent doesn't wanna go out and traffic babies. Brent doesn't go out I'll go out and drink baby's blood. He doesn't wanna go out and lie, cheat, and steal. That's the way they think. We don't think like that.   So that's my piece.  

I wish he'd come home. Think you will learn something by being a politician, wouldn't you? Well, god, for all these years, he's been on the show with us. I mean, Samuel, I've told y'all. We used to jump on him and beat him up.   I was surprised he didn't leave the show, but between I was one of those. Chris, Dave, and I was Yeah. You okay. Well, I didn't know. But, you know, you'd then you know and participated   in that. We beat the hell out of him up on the show over   this. And he's never changed. He's never come across on it. Well, this is what I can tell you. But Brents Ferry keeps his cards   close to his vest. Okay.  

I can tell you that his his wife and and Francine have both signed affidavits.   And I can tell speculate that I believe Brent has too, even though he doesn't wanna admit this publicly   for whatever   reason.   Okay?  

[00:54:42] Unknown:

That's just too funny.  

[00:54:45] Unknown:

Alright. Okay.   And I say that because one time we were talking and he said, I'm working on,   editing your affidavit.   That's what he told me.   K?   So whether you listen, folks, you can't deny. You can come in and speculate over all this, put your opinion up. No. It's not right.   But the set federal government recognizes it and they recognize it every time. And they've recognized it every time for at least for over fourteen years. Isn't that worth something?   But pardon me, they take passport fraud   real damn seriously.   If this wasn't right, you don't think they'd come after somebody in fourteen years?  

Come on.   Proof is in the pudding. What what, Samuel, would you have to say?  

[00:55:40] Unknown:

It's it's a little off topic, but it's an all awfully interesting statistic, and it, maybe shows you how God works.   But we dot the Israelis   dropped,   40,000   bombs on that little strip called Gaza   weighing   between   500, a 2,000   pounders.   Now if you take the average of a 40,000,   you get about $3,000,000   worth of ordinance because 10% of them are duds that didn't go off   that now that   Hamas group has more men than beginning of this   and more explosive   weaponry   and machine parts than they've ever had. They got, like, 3,000,000 pounds of high explosives.  

[00:56:27] Unknown:

Well, I wish they could lob it. I love to see him lob it right over the Knesset.   I was just listening here, interestingly enough, to a,   this morning, Saturday. You know? So there's a little low in information flow, and I was going back over   judge Napolitano's   channel. I don't know if any of y'all listen to the good judge   with any regularity, though, but it's judging freedom.   And I was listening to him interview a colonel Wilkerson,   I believe,   retired air force guy that's in the   mix of all those kind of big time retired military people. And judge asked me, he said,   have you ever had the chance to be around b b Netanyahu?  

He said, that's the most arrogant son of a bitch I've ever met in my whole life. That was Wilkerson's reply.   And that's what everybody says about   Netanyahu. He's just a maniac.   You know?   Well, him and Trump have split. I don't think it's fake.   And,   at least maybe Trump is getting a little bit more of a full picture than the whole country has received before because   we've been under this umbrella of   of of of Israel lie   lie, I emphasize lie, propaganda   for so many decades that the truce never gotten out.   And they were never allowed to talk with anybody in leadership   without somebody from the tribe right there. Remember, in Trump's first term, when he went into went over to Moscow and had that meeting with Putin, and he gave him the soccer ball,   that when they they even thought of those two meeting privately, would   symphaneicons   into absolute outrage.  

They can't stand   to know   what's happening that they don't have their big nose in. And to   further buttress that,   I think I've asked Paul this before. Maybe I'll ask Mark. Mark, do you know are you there, buddy? You know what Yeah. I'm here. When they when they bomb the King David Hotel   and they kick the, the British out, Remember Right. What the first thing they did? Do you know the first thing they did after that? No.  

[00:58:41] Unknown:

No. I don't.  

[00:58:42] Unknown:

Took over the telephone system.   They've got to know what's happening   everywhere.  

[00:58:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay?  

[00:58:53] Unknown:

And that doesn't show somebody that's strong. To me, it shows somebody that's incredibly weak and knows they're on real, real shaky footing to do things like they do. Well, they're blackmailing everybody.  

[00:59:05] Unknown:

And,   I if you wanna get a little taste, I mean, just a tiny taste   of   the the Mossad and how infiltrated   they've gone everywhere,   watch watch the maybe the first two seasons of The Black List with James Spader.   And it's a FBI task team, and they've got an agent working for them that is undercover Mossad.   White telling.  

[00:59:30] Unknown:

Yes. Of course. Of course. They're everywhere.   Paul, could you pot down the whistle? We're not saying   lovely whistling. I love the whistle.   We're not saying a dude to anybody.   We're trying to get our arms up and go, welcome. Welcome. Where's Moe?  

[00:59:45] Unknown:

Okay. Paul been?  

[00:59:47] Unknown:

No. I'm I'm still trying like, Eddie. No. I'm still trying to get computers to respond here. Hang on. Give me just a second.  

[00:59:55] Unknown:

Well, it'll be over just a second.   Just in time for it to end the   Alright. Well, missed it by that much. I I missed it by that much. Well, okay. You'll get it next time. Now, Mark, what were you saying, buddy?  

[01:00:10] Unknown:

Well, I was gonna switch gears a bit.  

[01:00:13] Unknown:

Yeah. We can do that. We  

[01:00:15] Unknown:

we we finished up our our trust class,   and,   one of our members,   Frank, I, you know, I don't know how   seriously he was taking,   you know, the the importance   of the trust. He had some estate planning that he was   doing for himself and his family,   and then he got smacked right in the face   through an example of   somebody he knows that dropped dead.   And they didn't have anything in place   to, you know,   have anything in place to protect the family,   protect his business partners. And   I invited Frank to come on today   to just kinda share a little bit of that   and, maybe a little bit about what he's learned   about our our trust classes. So   if you don't mind just a couple of minutes of Frank sharing that, I'd like to No. We would love to hear from you. Come on board with us. Is this is this Frank in Colorado?  



[01:01:17] Unknown:

Good morning, sir.  

[01:01:18] Unknown:

Good morning, Frank. Can you speak up a little bit, Frank?  

[01:01:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Can you hear me now? I had to get the microphone out from underneath my beard.  

[01:01:25] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:01:26] Unknown:

Okay. Is this better, Roger? Handle? Yeah. That's fine. Frank,  

[01:01:30] Unknown:

is this the Frank in Colorado?  

[01:01:32] Unknown:

Yes, sir.  

[01:01:33] Unknown:

Okay. I know you are now.  

[01:01:36] Unknown:

Yeah. No. As,   Mark,   in introduced there,   I I   was   had a lot on my plate even before the most recent event happened to me and kinda had to set priorities. And I would I would listen to Mark's class though not necessarily actively participate.   I've got all the materials. It's just a matter of when I get a chance   to sit down and actually take it in and make it happen.   But that aside,   as Mark alluded, I I think I'm I'm I'm looking right in front of me,   a real case study   of how   and why it's so important to have trusts   in   place.  

And   the   just some of the background without going into the details,   I,   I walked in and discovered my boss dead   on the   floor.   He had health problems. And so   the result   he was President of the company,   and I'm neither   an officer of the company and a shareholder or principal, nothing like that. I'm just literally an observer   and I'm seeing what's out playing out in front of me because my boss   had nothing  

[01:02:53] Unknown:

planned, nothing at all, Not even How old was he, Frank? How how Frank, how old was he?  

[01:03:00] Unknown:

Thick,   just turn with the 62. Not that old. Well, shame on him.   Yes.   Absolutely.   But the mess that is left behind   for company   and the transition   of the   principals,   the partners, the shareholders in the company,   they're the ones   in this case study that I'm observing because   I'm learning more about how mismanaged the company was. And   the people who are receiving the company need to dig themselves out of a hole, but that's a different story.   Mhmm. The officers of the company who are gonna be, for lack of a better term, inheriting the company through the succession plan,   their prop their personal property, if they don't have a trust, is subject to   to to risk if something should happen.  

What I'm getting at is that our company has to square away its bank loans and its debts.   We don't even know if those debts are gonna be incurred by the   principals in the company. But   if they are assuming that they are subject to the liabilities,   if they don't have their home assets and squared away with a trust,   they could be on the hook for for the debts owed to banks, engineers, and the creditors.  

[01:04:20] Unknown:

The officers of the company   are subject   to their personal assets being sucked into   whatever bankruptcy   stuff might be revolving around the company. Am I hearing that right?  

[01:04:33] Unknown:

If the banks go after the officers and the partners and they're not protected in their own personal   home situation like Mark is teaching us.   Yeah. I don't know. I'm just it it it's one person I know. They   they got kinda go with the flow. They were made partner in the company,   and   that's fine and dandy, but I don't believe that they put their personal assets in a trust such as the situation that's now being presented.   If banks, debtors, creditors, whoever needs money   Uh-huh. It's possible they could go after them if our assets and equity in the company are not enough to cover the debts. It's it's Wow.  

[01:05:14] Unknown:

Well, it's not How would they  

[01:05:16] Unknown:

how would they move forward on this, Mark? Are they with the Well, obviously, his personal stuff could go through probate, but this business stuff is a horse of a different color. Right?  

[01:05:26] Unknown:

Correct. Well, a little bit.   Here's here's the thing that Frank didn't tell you was   the spouse   of his boss   immediately thought she owned the business.   And the boss bought their commercial property in his personal name.  

[01:05:44] Unknown:

Oh.  

[01:05:46] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. And I believe also the automobiles that the company uses.   Mhmm. Now   now here's the thing that most people don't know.   They think an LLC   or a corporation   protects them from liability.   If you are a partner of an LLC,   then you have   the debt can fall on you personally.   Okay.   If you're part of a corporation,   all the shareholders   are responsible for the debt of the company.   And I didn't think that was possible   until one of my early cases when I was a paralegal   that I was helping research   was that the gentleman, he was out of Tulsa,   he had a sole proprietorship   corporation,   and he got sued by a security company because he failed to pay them. And they they put his name   with the business name on the lawsuit. He's like, I have my name shouldn't be on there and blah blah blah blah blah. And I'd always heard that. So now as I'm digging into this,   looking at various Oklahoma law, which is pretty standardized across the country,   a Sole Proprietor   is individually responsible   for his company's debt and they will   almost always   sue the company   and the individual owner and that goes to corporations.  

So you take a c,   c chapter or c corporation,   then, you know, you're thinking like some of these big companies, they have shareholders.   And those shareholders   share in the ownership   of that company by their stock certificates that they that they purchased.   Well, now if that company goes belly up and it owes more than the assets it has,   all those stockholders   are now responsible.   If the stockholder that  

[01:07:41] Unknown:

I'd I'd like to debate that,   at some point.  

[01:07:47] Unknown:

It's not debatable to me, but,   thanks for interrupting.  

[01:07:52] Unknown:

What   is not debatable?  

[01:07:55] Unknown:

Not debatable? What I'm telling you Can we appreciate it? Is my experience as a Did you we we have a protocol around here, Betty.  

[01:08:04] Unknown:

We don't interrupt when people are in there. We ask to speak.  

[01:08:09] Unknown:

Please. Shoot me.  

[01:08:12] Unknown:

So Ken, Ed, you're Anyone You know what, Ferris? I I'd like to drown your ass out there in the Atlantic. You've never been anything but a disruptor to this show. Go find somebody else to listen to.   I don't want you in my audience.   You got it?  

[01:08:29] Unknown:

Vico deuce.   Vico deuce. Please.  

[01:08:32] Unknown:

And stay away.   Go ahead, Mark. I'm tired of that crap.  

[01:08:39] Unknown:

So in in the corporate world, and this is what the corporate raters, you remember the corporate raters back in the eighties and nineties,   they would look for a company whose assets were worth more than their stocks.   But the opposite of that   is if their assets   aren't worth the it doesn't cover the amount of debt that's owed.   Well now that debt extends to the shareholders. I've read multiple cases about that.  

[01:09:04] Unknown:

So it's not quite as cut and dry as people have been just Oh, okay. Can I ask can I ask you a question, Mark? Does that include both, like, there's different kinds of shareholders, preferred stock, common stock,   all kinds of different does that   go to a specific type of shareholder   or in general to your knowledge?  

[01:09:25] Unknown:

I I don't know on that. Yeah. Okay. I just know that the, you know, from my experience,   whatever   stockholders   that own shares and it depends on what that that share of stock would relate to,   you know, like you said.   But,   I imagine if it's preferred, those are the ones that are gonna be on the hook because they usually get paid dividends out of their profits.   So  

[01:09:48] Unknown:

that's one thing we've discussed here. So I don't know if If I remember right,   some type of shareholders do not receive dividends where a preferred  

[01:09:57] Unknown:

a shareholder might, a common shareholder might not. Right. Right. You you may be right on that. I've never looked into which   stockholders,   would be most profitable.   Right. Right. Right. But, nonetheless,   you know, people think that a corporation gives them ultimate protection, and it just simply doesn't.   You just got to be real careful and know what you're doing.   Well, and that's why you wanna have a trust.  

[01:10:24] Unknown:

Well, yeah. Okay.  

[01:10:26] Unknown:

If if if you as a stockholder   or an owner of a company,   if you had   your personal property sitting in a trust,   which is what I hope that these business partners will do immediately   for what? Estate planning purposes   only.   You know, they just saw a business partner died and they're worried about, you know, their estate,   and they put everything   to into a trust.   So,   anyway,   it's it's it's just amazing amazing that that that   the the company   that Frank works for   really didn't sound like they had any kind of written agreement about their partnership or the way it was structured or whatever.   And so now they've got an outside,   you know, spouse of their boss who's saying that they they own the company or they own the property.  

And and they think they own the the company, which they obviously don't.   But now the the business partners   really have a fight on their hands. And   this this kind of leads into my next,   area area of our trust classes   is I'm gonna I'm gonna add a module   for businesses.   So a sole proprietorship, we're gonna give them   training on how to protect their assets inside the company.   Okay. And there's a couple of different ways you can do that successfully.   And if it's done properly,   the company itself pretty much won't own anything.   Mhmm. It will lease everything.  

And then each each owner of the company, whether it be one or multiple owners of the company,   will have their property in their own trust   and,   asset protection vehicles.   So Now   could the company  

[01:12:17] Unknown:

be put Pardon me? Could the company be put in a trust put in a trust?  

[01:12:25] Unknown:

It it could, but I don't think that serves the right purpose because you end up paying taxes.   If the company is working inside that trust, now the trust is gonna be involved in taxes and so on and so forth. So Okay. I I we've   well, trust me. Julie has put me to the test. She's tried to stump me several different ways  

[01:12:45] Unknown:

about trust. She's very good at that.  

[01:12:48] Unknown:

And and it's great because here's what, lady Linda Louise talked about,   the power of our group. We gotta bring trust, just kinda similar to what you got here on the show.   And, you know, we we can bounce ideas off each other.   Some people like Lady Linda Louise said, you know,   somebody will ask a question that I never even thought to ask. I didn't even know I needed to know that. But, you know, it came,   at the right time. And,   so she has a lovely testimony about our trust class, her her and Julie.   But the next module that I'm gonna add on to our trust classes   is for business owners.  

And   they, you know, teach them how they they can minimize   their risk in their business.   And then on top of that with their trust classes,   they shouldn't have any problems going down the road.   So Okay. Anyway, we're still taking we're still taking some members.   We've got quite a few people that signed up. We're still open for some more.   If you're interested in the trust   classes that we have in our private membership association   which is called Your   Legacy Trust Club.   You can email me at [email protected].   That's y o u r your   legacy l e g a c y   trust, t r u s t,   dot o r g. Not dot com. It's [email protected].  

I'll give you some more information. What our class is about?   Got a couple of links if you wanna listen to kind of a deep discussion that we initially did on Roger's show that   I was like,   it become a trust class that that Saturday, I think it was, and we're joking that Roger could've just went back to bed.   We got a ton of of trust questions.   So if you if you wanna kinda get an idea of what our classes are like, that'll be great. Now the other thing I'm doing too, Roger, I just did this. I didn't really announce it. But at the end of the trust class class, I'm giving every student their own software where they can   they can create privately   their own trust documents at home.  

So I'm I'm sharing that with our our members  

[01:15:20] Unknown:

And so that's that's   yes, Julie? I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just have to chime in here and say, again, how great this class is, you guys. It's unbelievable.   I don't I'm not getting any payment for this. Number two, that software, it does more than just create trust. You can actually generate your own quick claim deeds when you're taking property and you're taking it, you know, from where it's at right now and you're putting it in a trust.   It's incredible.   Sign up. Just put it on. Figure out where to put it on a credit card. Figure out what to do because when you get into these classes, it's a brain trust like Mark said. We are all in this together as one big family, and I can't speak highly,   enough about this. And, also, the other thing I wanted to add, Mark, that you said was,   you know, you are correct. Just because you do have a c corp or an LLC, you're not a % protected.  

Roger, in an LLC, there are general partners and limited partners. If you're a limited partner in an LLC and you don't have anything to do with the management of that LLC,   I do believe you're   protected.   But here's how You're safe. But here's how yeah. But here's how you're not.   Most of these LLCs and c corp do not file,   do not hold their annual meetings, and do all of the   minutes and all of the stuff that they're required to on an annual basis. They might just file their annual report.   I'm guilty of that. And so what happens is if a lawsuit doesn't sue, they can actually pierce the corporate veil of either a c corp or an LLC and then go after those,   partners' individual assets. And I believe even if their limited partners were not involved in the general,   you know, day to day operations of that particular business. But, anyway,   I yield yeah. Everybody needs to sign up for Mark's class as Frank needs to contact all the places. LLCs   LLCs have general members. They're not called partners, Julie. They're called Okay. General members. Whether they're limited members in general You just refuse to leave, don't you?  



[01:17:22] Unknown:

It's okay. You just refuse to leave.   I like to help. It's okay. I like to help. You what? You like to help? I like to help. Disrupting my goddamn show every time? You like to help?  

[01:17:35] Unknown:

It's okay. I'm gonna be ready for that. Even allowed in Linda Louise's home anymore,  

[01:17:40] Unknown:

that she's the one that turned, unfortunately,   us onto you. I beg you to leave.   All you do is disrupt.   Go away. Go away.   I've never asked a listener in my whole career to ever do that, but you, Farris, that's how abrasive you are. You are.  

[01:18:02] Unknown:

Mark, I'll be definitely recommending my colleagues to you when the dust settles on all of this.  

[01:18:07] Unknown:

Well, I'm Frank, I wouldn't wait, and I wouldn't wait for them to even join the class. I would say they need to   walk, I mean, run, not walk, to their nearest nearest  

[01:18:19] Unknown:

attorney attorney,  

[01:18:20] Unknown:

or legal professional to get their   their estates over into a trust like ASAP.  

[01:18:28] Unknown:

I'll, stress it highly on that. That's good advice. One of the things, Mark, that I discovered   about taking your class, and this ties into Roger's class.   As you said, I I've had a lot on my plate, and I didn't keep up with the actual work, but I was listening in.   And it's the same concept that Roger teaches.   Learn the concepts because granted, I couldn't be necessarily active in your class. But just by listening, I was picking up the concepts of the class. Just like Roger says   on becoming a national, learn the concepts, and then you can get into the minutia and the nuts and bolts later. And, Mark, that's what I gotta do with my trust. But as far as the understanding of it,   it makes sense. And even more so is that how Roger would always say,   paraphrasing,   the people that he's teaching for the national status, the people that I walk around, the majority of people don't know that they're slaves. If they don't know   what they don't know, they can't solve the problem. And it's the same thing for people that don't have a trust. It's one thing to be aware of a trust and not get one set up. It's another thing to not be aware of it and,   obviously not get it set up. There's so many correlations   between what I'm learning from you, Mark, and this overall national status seminar zero.  



[01:19:49] Unknown:

Well, appreciate that, Frank. How much did I pay you to say that?  

[01:19:56] Unknown:

Mark, I here's the thing. I'm putting this together. I when I allow myself to kinda relax because the past   ten days, I've been a whirlwind   to say the least. I understand.   Even though I'm not involved in it, I'm observing it. I'm seeing it play out. Yeah. Anyway,  

[01:20:14] Unknown:

I yield. Thank you, folks. Good good to talk to you again, Roger. Thank you. Frank, good to hear from you. I'm a tell your brother hello.   And,   what would happen if now the creditors, let's say you didn't know the situation of the business. Right?   What the loans were, he personally bought everything under his name. If those payments can't be made,   then the creditors come back on the company. Right?  

[01:20:37] Unknown:

Yes. That's  

[01:20:39] Unknown:

correct. Spend the company through probate.   I guess you'll send it through this period of discovery.  

[01:20:47] Unknown:

Well, no. The the now we're talking about the real estate. They recently bought some property,   and, unfortunately,   the the title to that commercial property was put in the president's name.  

[01:20:59] Unknown:

Wow. And it really messed this up big time. But But did he have insurance with it? In the in the question whether he had insurance with it, his death will pay off the property?  

[01:21:09] Unknown:

Well, yeah. But   if it does,   it's still not in the name of the company. I don't know the   the other partners don't have any   say so in it because they they didn't they're not it was   it should have been purchased in the company's name. Right. And if that partner wanted to be the cosigner for it, then that would have worked.   Right?   But hold on, Julie. But but, you know, in this instance, it looks like they're just kinda   flying by the seat of their pants. And the the president, they look for a new place to, you know, open shop,   and they left their old old business or their old,   their old place of business, I should say,   bought a new place.  

But it appears that they did it all underneath the the owner's   personal name   and now the spouse thinks that they own everything.   So it is it's a real world example that happens way too many times   than you would imagine.   So if you're in business especially,   you need to really, you know, structure your business so that everybody's protected. And, you know, a lot of businesses, if they have somebody, a partner,   and they figure out what their kind of interest is in the partner and how much they   might lose if that partner die,   they'll insure each other as a partner of our business so that if that partner dies,   you know, whatever percentage of ownership that they had in the company is covered.  



[01:22:44] Unknown:

So anyway yeah. Julie Mark, here's the thing also in this is that be even if they were protected, even everything in terms of the company structure was every t t crossed, every I dotted,   even if that were in place. Right now, they're trying to determine that because there's so many unknowns. But even if everything was in place that in the end, all of the shareholders, principals, etcetera, are eventually protected,   Think of the peace of mind that one would have if their personal items were already in a trust. I'm hoping and I'm confident that as much of a mess it is,   it's going to work out. But I see my colleagues and they're they've got the WTH   written all over their forehead because they don't know the anxiety of their own property.  

That could all go away if it was in a trust. Yes.  

[01:23:34] Unknown:

And and, Frank Frank, the other thing that's really compounding matters is if in fact that commercial property was in his name, he's the spouse and he passes, his his assets pass on to the wife. So now she owns that commercial property, and then if there's a mortgage on it, she's responsible for the payment of that. And if she was relying on his income to pay the mortgage and his income is no more, that even complicate  

[01:23:58] Unknown:

matters even more even more. Yeah. This is all I need to do. He didn't even have a will or there was nothing from my understanding   of a cosigner,   tenant joint tenants or whatever it is that you title property. None of this, you know, and none of it is in place.   We don't need to get into details, but it's a mess. Yeah. Well, with no will. Wife.  

[01:24:19] Unknown:

Yeah. If he didn't have that, it typically go to the wife. So  

[01:24:22] Unknown:

Yes. And with no will, it'll automatically go to probate.   Probate. Decided by a probate judge.  

[01:24:29] Unknown:

Yep. It's a mess. So this is real world, guys. This is Mark. Mark. This is a   not a, a isolated   incident that's, you know, crazy. This happens all the time.   I think Samuel was there. Go ahead, Samuel.  

[01:24:45] Unknown:

Yeah. Thanks.   Yeah. You know, I'm not big on on   doing trust, but that doesn't mean that they're they're they're not for other people, and I understand that.   Have have you ever done a a transfer on death's deed? That's that's legal in California and avoids probate, and it's good to add   a an affidavit of,   there as well   of what your will is   to go with it.   Okay. But have you done any of those before? What what did you call that? The death deed? Transfer on death's deed.  

[01:25:24] Unknown:

Ah, okay.  

[01:25:25] Unknown:

So it so you have your beneficiary   listed so that when you pass,   it's an automatic trans like, almost like a quitclaim. Right? I've done it, Samuel.  

[01:25:36] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm not k. I'm not familiar with that. But because I put stuff in trust, there's no  

[01:25:42] Unknown:

Yeah. The transfer Well, it's still one of the things that they recommend the most, really. You know? I mean Yep. Yeah. But, Samuel, you have a t o it's called a TOD. You can put that on all your bank accounts and all all of your,   your   if you trade stocks and your crypto accounts and stuff, you could have it COD. But that doesn't protect that account from creditors coming after it. If there's some sort of debt you owe, they still have a claim against it. That's why market class is so important. If you have your if you have the trust and you name your beneficiaries in the trust, the creditors cannot get access to that, and and it goes the same way without risk.  

[01:26:17] Unknown:

Unfortunately  

[01:26:18] Unknown:

I wouldn't be passing on a liability to anybody as a favor. You know? Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:26:23] Unknown:

What what I appreciate about Samuel, he looks from a biblical view, which he's excellent at doing.   And he was right. If you if you were honorable, you wouldn't need a trust. Nobody would need a trust.   But the problem is we got snakes, liars, and thieves out there   looking and a lot of them are in your own family.   And when somebody dies, and if they got any kind of assets,   I mean the fangs come out.   And so you're not dealing with   Christian   individuals   who are honorable.   They, you know, they just see assets, they see money, whatever   and it gets ugly really quick. It's it's shocking.  



[01:27:06] Unknown:

Absolutely. Shocking.  

[01:27:08] Unknown:

I mean, I've seen it in my own face. I  

[01:27:10] Unknown:

had a saying I heard a while back, Mark. It said money doesn't give a man character,   but it certainly exposes it. Comment. Absolutely. Yeah. Yes, Paul. Paul.  

[01:27:22] Unknown:

Re experience I've ever had with,   the the events surrounding the recent passing of a loved one   is the remaining family members usually wind up giving   buzzards and vultures a bad name.  

[01:27:37] Unknown:

Yep. Very true.   I've lived that in the last couple of years.   Yeah. Well, I don't know why I'm here. So much. Oh, give me all that money.   I don't   care.  

[01:27:50] Unknown:

Well, I don't have to belabor the story. I wanna thank Frank for coming on and sharing that with everybody because Well that's really, you know, important.   And on our trust classes,   well, we're gonna,   well, first off, like Frank mentioned, he was able to go back and listen to those because we do have replays of the actual training classes.   And then we have, open q and a sessions later that week where people can ask whatever question that was related to that week's training. Yeah. And and, the other thing too is our next classes will start   I plan on starting them on June 3.  

So you've got about two weeks.   If you wanna sign up, you've got   I just lost my calendar.  

[01:28:34] Unknown:

Come on, calendar. Yeah. About two weeks.  

[01:28:37] Unknown:

Yeah. I see. One, two. Yeah. Just a little over two weeks to get signed up.   And, again, I'm giving away well, I'm not giving away free. But at at the end of the class,   I'm gonna give you the software   that you can use to create your own, trust.   And then we're, I'm just about   finished with a platform   that will also have some self paced   do it yourself training. So you can go into our membership site   and then go through some videos and slideshows.   And and, you know, if you're if you miss a training, that's not a problem.   You can go back and listen to a recording.  

We'll have documents and things that you can download from the website. So I, was hoping to have that finished before our first class or in the middle of it, but the platform I tried, I wasn't satisfied with. I didn't like the way it looked and function. But this new one's really cool because you can actually check off your sections.   So if you go through module one when you're done with it you can click done   and it'll let you know that you're done so you don't accidentally double back over something you already studied.   So anyway I'm excited about that that platform   and it's called Go Higher Level   And if you're into membership sites or putting any kind of group together, especially a private membership association,   I would I would suggest looking into that that program. I've got a couple of friends who use that for their training,   and, they switched over from another company and went to this GoHigh level. So that's what I'm working on.  

You got two weeks.   I got two weeks that I wanna get this platform up and running.   And,   like I said, you'll have downloads,   replays,   webinars,   documents you can download. The very first thing once I train them,   on the initial trust basics,   I'm giving you an automobile   trust template.   And so we've already had people, our members have been transferring vehicles into its own separate trust   so that it's not tied to their primary trust. Because that's one of your biggest liabilities with an automobile. If you're an individual out there and   you're traveling   in your automobile,   it's a it's a huge risk. And if you put that in with your house as all part of a trust, well guess what?  

Now whatever's in the trust   can be held liable for whatever happened with the automobile. So anyway,   that's kind of the first thing we do so you get a taste and flavor   of transferring   a piece of your property   into a trust, which is important to do as quickly as possible. So, anyway, I just just wanna let you know about that. And and,   anybody wants to sign up, we got about two weeks. Yeah. You can email me at [email protected].  

[01:31:34] Unknown:

Yes. Who's trying to say something there?  

[01:31:37] Unknown:

It was Larry? Watch.  

[01:31:38] Unknown:

Larry, you can go.  

[01:31:41] Unknown:

I was just gonna say, Mark, I take it you can put a a farm in a trust. How complicated is that? And can you,   describe how that process would would take place?   And, also, the second question is, can you assign beneficiaries   who do not exist yet?  

[01:32:00] Unknown:

Yes. You can. You can.   Well, as far as transferring the farm into a trust,   it kinda really depends on the structure of that farm. If we're just talking land, are we talking equipment?   You know I would have to know a lot more than just simply can you put in a trust.   But theoretically, yes, you can put your farm into a trust, your farm property into a trust. And yes,   you can actually name   beneficiaries   that haven't even been born yet.   So it goes through your lineage. And you can say to you know, if if you haven't had children yet and that's your you know, who you wanna leave your estate to,   then you could put to your   your minor or adult children in the future that are related to you. You can even put in your your,   you put in your trust that it would require a paternity test if you want. I mean, you can you can really lock it down so that, only the people that you want to inherit   property out of the trust will actually get it. So There you go. Pretty neat on how much you can do, and and this is a private trust. This is not registered with the county.  

Nobody knows what's inside of it. And when when the   grantor, the person who created the trust, passes away,   then the trustee   steps in,   and they execute the trust. So if the trust says this person gets this property, they get that property. This person   is supposed to get cash, then they get cash. And the trustee,   who's in charge of the trust,   make sure that the directions of the trust are followed.   You can even hold back money. So if you say, okay. Well,   for for all my children,   whenever they reach 25, they get a percentage of whatever's in this bank account.   And, you know, you can they call it the was it the the hand from the grave?  

Yeah. You can literally be dead, and your trust will still be following your desires.   So you can say,   upon the birth of a grandchild,   you want that, family member to get x amount of dollars.   So it can be very creative in it. So,   that's the exciting part. And it's private.   Nobody knows what your property is. If you have a,   trust that's been registered with the county,   it's a statutory trust, and it's gonna have legal requirement   to execute that trust.   If you have a will or you don't have a will,   then that that will end up going through probate.   So then everybody in the world gets to see what property you own.  

There's a lot of people that you are   shenanigans go on in probate. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've just seen that with my parents' neighbor   that passed away   about two years ago.   And it's just   just crazy. No will,   nothing. And so   his his daughter ended up having to deal with   putting everything through probate.  

[01:35:15] Unknown:

Oh, no. And and now you gotta go pay $20,000   to an attorney.  

[01:35:21] Unknown:

Exactly. And the attorney does everything they can to drag it out because they get billable hours. Because they're yeah. Billable hours. Yeah. And then the sad part is is when it's all said and done,   everybody   the courts now check this out, Roger.   If a probate court sells property inside that probate, they get a cutout of it.  

[01:35:42] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:35:44] Unknown:

So   they have invested interest to It's a feeding trough.  

[01:35:50] Unknown:

Yes. It's a feeding trough.  

[01:35:52] Unknown:

And so at the end of the probate, typically,   there's a big hunk   of a chunk of money that's been taken out of the estate.   And too many times   the people that are inheriting this ends up with really nothing.   It all goes towards the lawyers and the courts.   So your private   this private trust will   sidestep all of that.  

[01:36:18] Unknown:

Yep. And   just make the whole process a lot smoother, a lot cheaper Yeah. A lot better. Period. And I'm glad you're doing that, Mark. And   I I like to see our core program grow in here and you offering this and   all the other folks that offer, you know, resources, Dave and Kaye and Merca and Devin Right. Everybody else. And it's just wonderful to see all of you because I never told any of you to do anything. You know? It's all your idea, your motivation, and I really appreciate that. Now when Larry asked his question, there was another guy I thought at the same time.   Yeah. Yeah. It was it was me. He's on a from Austin area. Robert Okay. What's your name now? Put up after Azana. My name is Izana. Izana.  

Izana. Izana.   Okay. Hi, Izana. That's an Indian area.  

[01:37:06] Unknown:

Alright. I think yeah. I've called a few times. Probably daughter by my Okay. Well, I think I vaguely remember. Go ahead.  

[01:37:14] Unknown:

That's okay. Well, no. I I was I would I'd like to second everyone as I joined Mark Mark's class,  

[01:37:20] Unknown:

as well. I I did as well, and and Mark is such an honorable man. I've gotten to know him. I've gotten to know Julie.   I've gotten to know David   Lee, and it's it's been just an amazing,   good   organization.   And I am just so delighted and honored to be a member of that, and we all came together,   under you, Roger, and I've been listening to you for the last,   a year. Actually, a a little over a year.   I remember this show. And,   I just   just want you to know that that has been such an impact, such a profound,   impact on me and my family and all this knowledge and my children. They're learning.   And, it's been, it's been a tremendous experience, and I'm like, second one.  



[01:38:09] Unknown:

So that that's that's my first comment. And Well do have a second comment. I'm I'd like it. If I could if if I could just sideline you for a second and try and describe the warm fuzzy   that that information and feedback gives me. Thank you very much. So go on if you would, please.  

[01:38:27] Unknown:

I do. No. It's it's   a it's a pleasure is   totally my   and ours.   So oh, okay. The second thing I wanted to to comment about was, was,   just a few weeks ago, you you you made a comment about,   tie the the the,   about title 42 civil rights.  

[01:38:51] Unknown:

Yes, sir.  

[01:38:53] Unknown:

Where the part the part where it says, as is enjoyed by white citizens.  

[01:38:58] Unknown:

Yes, sir. And,  

[01:39:00] Unknown:

and and and I've I've been meditating on it over the last couple of weeks, and it's it's right there. I think last time when you commented, on that, I,   I think you you may have gotten the numbers wrong.   But it is right there. It's in, 1981   to 1996   on title 42, so chapter one. Yeah.   Uh-huh. And, so   so I was I was thinking about that last couple of weeks that I happened to be at a at a a bar and talking to this man, and this conversation came up. And, there were a couple of black guys sitting in there.   And, we were having a chat, and I I found to know Uh-huh.   Yeah.  



[01:39:39] Unknown:

Tell people where you're from originally.  

[01:39:42] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Okay.  

[01:39:44] Unknown:

Because you can't tell by your voice. Okay?  

[01:39:47] Unknown:

Alright. Okay. Yeah. I was, I was born and raised in Ethiopia.   I was, I'm a graduate to be up to here to go to high school,   and, I just got a a full ride scholarship, right, to study electrical engineering at one of the Catholic universities here. So so it's safe to say that it's safe to say that you have very dark brown skin.  

[01:40:11] Unknown:

It is safe to say that. Yeah. Alright. Alright. So now we get the we get the picture now. Let's go back to the let's go back to you, at the cigar bar. Hey. You can't hear me, guys. Patron.  

[01:40:24] Unknown:

Yeah. I told the story to to Mark earlier this week.   Yeah. And and my wife is Mexican, and I married her to Mexico who traveled out here.   So so we were we were we were at the cigar bar. We were chatting with this with this guy, and he happens to be an attorney.   And I approached him, and I said, hey. Do you happen to know that there's, there's actually two,   classes of citizenship in the nation?   And he goes paused a little bit, and he goes,   heard about that. What what do you mean?   Anyway, that started a conversation. I told him about,   you or Roger, the site, and everything.  

He was very curious and eager to learn and wanted to know. And, anyway, towards the end, there were a couple of guys in there sitting.   And, so I brought this up, title 42.   And,   and by then, I have I've been thinking about it. It's been frustrating in my mind for some time. And it occurred to me that,   that it   the it's it wasn't actually   the African Americans   who got rights   that is equal to the whites.   It was the whites that were,   unbeknownst to them using the African American, which make up about 3013%   of the pop you said to 13% of the population.   They were used to take away   rights unbeknownst to the white folks. Oh, absolutely.  



[01:42:00] Unknown:

And  

[01:42:02] Unknown:

and it is so the understanding of that and I was I was talking to Mark earlier. The understanding of that was so profound to me. And I was thinking about k we were laughing about how the KKK if they had just known this,   the joke was actually on them. And it was it you know, it's   it's incredible.   And   I pointed to him is that they use them to rob you   of your natural right.   That's what I told Otter. Yep.  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

Yep. And I say that on the air, you know, it that,   they've used the black community   ought to be pissed off   on top of everything else.   Here, they've used them to go and enslave everybody else.  

[01:42:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And and and it it was it was funny because I I was telling the attorney, you know, you hear me before that, he was asking me where I was from and so on and so forth. I'm here.   Came from Africa yesterday, and I'm telling you this right now as a black man.   Yep. To you, I told him. Yep. And now I understand it.  

[01:43:16] Unknown:

Mark That's incredible. That was an incredible experience. It's It it's like all you you're exposed to this stuff, and like you said, you noodle on it for a while. It's like a splinter in your mind. And all of a sudden, it comes to you, and you it ding, and the light comes on.  

[01:43:32] Unknown:

Yeah. K. And and then it starts And as you study it more and more, it starts oozing out of you. Somebody you know, a situation will come up like what Ezana was facing. And, you know, he was able just to, you know, tell them give them the facts, explain how it happened,   and really enlighten them in a in a very short conversation.   So I really have to get, you know, hats off to Zana for opening hopefully, opening some people's eyes whether they do anything about it or not. It's that's pretty awesome.  

[01:44:02] Unknown:

And and see for the if if you're new or whatever,   the if you don't understand the information, you can't have these experiences and affect these people.   And you just never know   who somebody else knows.   You never know who that lawyer that you're talking to in that bar in Austin, Texas,   who he's related to, who he knows.   Hey. Look at what I've been turned on to, and this thing spreads. I mean, he may be,   the the the he may be related to the guy that runs Jones's place over there. You know?   You just never know. And so I appreciate everybody doing that. The base thing is if you don't learn the information, you can't do that.   So, anyway, I appreciate the story, and thank you, Arizona, and and, tickled to death that you're   coming along as well as you are. K? Yeah. Thank you very much, Roger. Well, we're we're here to help. We're here to help. I'm grown to love you and appreciate you. Thank you very much.  

Y'all are my family now. You know?   So,   it's very important to me.   As each and every one of you are, and I tell you constantly,   and now when you go out and start talking to people about this, at some point, you're gonna understand why I say that. K? Because you're gonna be shocked as you do at the people and the responses that you get from some of them.   He he was lucky right here.   Everybody in the vicinity seemed to be interested. Well, you'll come to situations where that's not the case.   K? I mean, I've been called every name under the book. Every ugly name you could call anybody. People have called me over this. Okay?   So I know.  

Anyway, we're making progress. We're growing. It's the evidence is everywhere,   And,   and we're just continuing to build   until we get to that critical mass point. I don't know when that's gonna be, but we're a lot closer to it than we were yesterday or a year ago or five years ago, etcetera.   And, boy, it's a wonderful thing. I I   I don't know if I can express in words   how much I love, this show,   this audience,   and what we do here and the purpose   that it gives my life.   Because if you if you've lived a life chasing Federal Reserve notes or something, and all of a sudden you get to a point where you're serving others   and you have this purpose in your in your life, man, it just makes your life so satisfying.  

The first time I ever heard Got it. Was a guy yes. The first time I ever heard this, just a second,   was a sales trainer named Tom Hopkins.   You know, Zig Ziglar and all those guys. Tom Hopkins is one of those. And he said something that really stuck me. He's guided me my whole life since I was in my twenties.   And and that is   the only way to get what you want   is to help enough others get what they want.   And that's what I try and do here. I try and help anybody that comes, as many as we can, get free, and that just reinforces   all of us and gives us a   it gives us a stage and a platform, folks, that they can't   they can't diminish.  

They can't demolish.   They can't do anything but fear and respect.   That's what I'm trying to do, affect change. That's all I wanna do. I wanna expose these son of a bitches that for two thousand years been or more been plaguing the earth, and I wanna nail them dead tonight to rights, and I wanna try and affect change. That's my whole goal. I don't care about your currency. I don't care about anything else. I care about that right there.   Because I hate these son of a bitches.   Sons of Satan   bitches. Okay? And they got all this power, and it's all in this little trick right here.   All based on fraud. Now somebody was trying to say something there a second ago. Who was it?  

Yes. George Idaho. Hi, Roger. Yeah. I got Hey, George. To receive equity. Right? So Pardon me? You can talk right in the phone. Talk George, talk right in the phone.  

[01:48:14] Unknown:

Yes. Give equity to receive equity. It's the law of equity. Right? Okay. I guess so. Yes.   Yep. Yeah. The,   couple comments. One, Mark, I didn't know if other states have it, but, I had put some time ago a   vehicle into   a a trust, and I don't have to it's like permanent tags.   Right. So I don't know if all all states have that, but   the Montana trust that I had done, you know, basically 11 year old   trucks   or trailers, all that kind of stuff. So   Yeah. And then,   just on,   you know, I think as Trump had   made safe haven for some South Africans, I think, you know, the end result of a multicultural   culture is kinda what we have in South Africa. And I just a warning, you know, what's bad for the Europeans is and we're that European stock, that's the founding of our nation, is bad for,   the world. And I think   we're kinda   we're kinda the result of that through of, obviously, the civil war and all that,   but,   very true statement that the gentleman from Ethiopia made.  



[01:49:24] Unknown:

George, do you remember a guy named Schweitzer,  

[01:49:29] Unknown:

I believe?  

[01:49:30] Unknown:

Doctor.   Yes.   He's he went down there and lived in Africa for years. His statement was these two races cannot live together.   Right. Now I'd like to think that's that is not correct   because, man, I love some of our black folks. You know, I've had very close black friends throughout my life. And I because my father taught me and raised me to take a man for what he is, not what color he is. Okay? So I've always basically mimicked Martin Luther King,   the content of a man's character.   But it's not the blacks that people don't like as much as it's their culture.   And their culture has been so affected and so skewed   by the efforts to turn all them against us. Okay? And that's what me and others don't like is that gangsta rap and and all the crap that comes with it. But, man, I love our black listeners. K?  

And in fact, many times, I'll bend over backwards more for them than I would for one for a white person.  

[01:50:34] Unknown:

K? And it's a shame too because the black community,   when they come out of the the civil war,   they started getting very successful.   Tulsa, they had a what they call Black Wall Street.   And I'm not sure what triggered it off and and I don't know, you know, they make it sound like it was genocide. I don't know about that. But nonetheless,   they had some kind of riot that broke out, and a lot of black people were killed. And it ended   their very successful   community   of very  

[01:51:08] Unknown:

well-to-do black people. And, folks, that was in Oklahoma. What town was that in, man? Tulsa.   Tulsa. It was in Tulsa. Okay. Yeah. And that's where they had the riots, and they were very successful.   What happened to the blacks is the the is the Democrats   wanting to use them and even further use them than they already had bringing them over out of Africa. Now in all fairness,   a lot of the slaves that were left Africa and came to this part of the world and were sold were captured by their own people.   It was the blacks and the rivalries of the tribes that were going out and capturing rival tribes and selling them off. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. So It's The the whole thing's just so misunderstood.  

[01:51:51] Unknown:

Yeah. It's actually there's there's far more discrimination   and, you know, racism and all of that in Africa that   far, far, far 10, maybe a thousand times worse than you'd ever see in any other continent.   Yeah. And they're horrendous   to one another. Arrondis.  

[01:52:11] Unknown:

Well, I might challenge that with India.   India has their caste system.   Oh, it does. You know, they've got Yeah. They got a they got a low lower cast, the bottom of the rung   that if their shadow touches another higher   cast person,   they can go to jail.   Oh my god. It's it's just they don't even get they don't they don't even get to use a reusable if they're in public and they wanna drink a drink of water,   they can't even use somebody's reusable cup like at a restaurant.   They give them this little clay cup   and when they're finished drinking, you know, the it gets thrown away.   That's just Oh my god. Yeah. It's unbelievable.  



[01:52:52] Unknown:

It's yeah. There there's nothing nothing here in terms of racism and all of that. Now people seek opportunity   here, and then you'll see people join me for opportunity,   and someone else will point that out to say as racism. Yeah. It has nothing to do with you you have no idea what racism is. There's nothing here. I'm yet to see war.   Now there's interest in under conflict, and, there's these things do happen, but it doesn't have to be a race thing.   But now you go somewhere else. The race thing is real.   So I no. I I,  

[01:53:28] Unknown:

and so Oh, I thought it was interesting that Laura Logan and I mentioned it yesterday when she was being interviewed by Alex the other day on this. And I didn't know there were three separate types of white groups in South Africa. There are. Two of them kinda band together   and but they hate each other. This is her words. The English and the Afrikaners   hate each other more than the blacks or their hate of either one of them.  

[01:53:54] Unknown:

No. It's   not.  

[01:53:58] Unknown:

Hello. So, anyway, I was shocked at that, and I didn't know   that there were French Huguenots down there. I don't know why. I just didn't know it. K? So, I was kinda surprised at that too. But,   listen, all of our black folks, and we got some new ones lately and probably some that are listening now, and we just welcome you. I don't care what color you are. I care about if you are interested in freedom and you wanna achieve it at no matter what the price, because the price is   nothing. Okay? But you gotta have that kind of mindset when you get into this. You're the people that it really sticks with.   The because you're the truth seekers just like me. And I didn't understand all this stuff that first weekend that I was in front of John and Glenn either. But by the time the weekend was over, I didn't know what was going on, but I knew it was something of great, great substance.  

K? And many of you have the same feelings.   You don't understand it. It's very confusing. It takes a little bit of time, but, you know, there's something they're worth pursuing.   And I bless you. Bless you.  

[01:55:00] Unknown:

You're the This is Chris from California.  

[01:55:03] Unknown:

Hey, Chris.  

[01:55:05] Unknown:

How are you doing?  

[01:55:06] Unknown:

Hanging in.  

[01:55:08] Unknown:

Sounds good. Sounds good. Okay. Yeah. I had something that just happened here, and I'm gonna just throw this out for comment or anybody has any ideas.   I was given a traffic citation   for unlicensed   driver   and,   nothing else.   On the citation, it says,   it it has two boxes,   appear in court at 8AM   on a particular date, or the box that's checked, which says, respond to citation before   the same date.   So,   the,   the unlicensed   driver thing, of course, I didn't have it was, the license   that I had is way way expired. But California put down a license that I had   twenty five years ago   in California that I canceled.  

And,   so I was wondering about,   just taking the citation back to CHP   and just giving it back to them, refusing it.   Or I have some other things in mind that have worked in the past, but it takes a little more paperwork.  

[01:56:25] Unknown:

It I did when did this happen? Chris, when did this happen?  

[01:56:29] Unknown:

Yeah. It happened just within the last,   within the last two weeks.  

[01:56:34] Unknown:

Okay. Well, if I think if you're gonna try and do an abatement, you need to do it within three days. Is that right, Mark? I don't know a whole lot about it. You and Samuel know about more than I do, I think. Abatements   is just an administrative   process saying this doesn't apply to me is what I understand.  

[01:56:51] Unknown:

Yeah. You got three business days to respond, like, if you're gonna resend a loan or resend a signature,   whatever. Now I'm not familiar with the abatement process,   but, and Samuel could probably tell you better than I can. But generally speaking, you wanna try to do whatever you need to do in about three business days. So you Well, I've done yep. I've done that's what I've done in the past, but, we had a real,  

[01:57:16] Unknown:

a real harrowing workday,   and we were stopped because there was no front bumper on the car   and,   broken glass window on the side that a neighbor   hit with you know, beat out with it with a,   a baseball bat for a stupid reason.   And,   he saw us coming down, so he he pulled us over.   And he said we also had a brake light that was out. And he he said this was, like, gonna be a fix it ticket. I didn't even know he was doing anything about the unlicensed driver   until actually today,   because, of course, I just and the ticket to my wife because the fix it stuff was, like,   a registration and the taillight.  

And,   so the first time I had time to look at the ticket, I asked to say, let me see that ticket. I read it today, and there's none of that on it. The only one thing on it is me, a licensed driver.   So, normally, I would have I would have handled it within three days for sure. But now we're past three days.   Yeah. But now we're past the three days, so I might still do that.   But, there are other things I can do. Also, I could,   I could use my affidavit. And,   is anybody here familiar with,   Harry Baldwin's work?  

[01:58:34] Unknown:

Nope. Out of Ohio?  

[01:58:37] Unknown:

Nope.  

[01:58:40] Unknown:

Nope. I can comment on the abatements.  

[01:58:43] Unknown:

Yep. Go ahead, Samuel. Go ahead.  

[01:58:46] Unknown:

Yeah. If if if it's, well, I'm not sure. You know,   Stamper did his he called it a common law abatement, but I still think you would have to file that in three days.   Now the non statutory   abatement that's in the book of the hundreds,   they say you can go right up to the court date on filing that.   Or you're actually not filing it. You're serving it on the parties.   You're not entering the court system.   You're doing service to, say, the officer, the judge, and the prosecutor.  

[01:59:22] Unknown:

How much longer for the court date? Chris, what was court date they gave you? It's the  

[01:59:27] Unknown:

the date is, September   2.  

[01:59:30] Unknown:

Oh my lord. You got eons.  

[01:59:34] Unknown:

Yeah. Respond.   So I was gonna respond outright.  

[01:59:39] Unknown:

Okay. But basically, what the abatement process is is it's,   you're you're disputing   their process as being lawful   and pointing out all these, they call them marks, which are basically frauds.   Nice name for saying fraud. And you list all of them,   and then you send that or you,   you you make sure they get that by service.   You serve them.   They have a time to respond.   If they don't respond, they go into default, then you send a default,   and then you go to small claims and collect on them.  

[02:00:22] Unknown:

Mhmm. We've got about,   thirty seconds   left to this show.  

[02:00:27] Unknown:

If if that much. Well, thank you guys, everybody that that joined in today. And I thought we're gonna be dealing with Moe and teaching her some stuff, but she didn't show. Hopefully, Moe will show on another day, and we can do that. Otherwise,   hope you got something out of all the   various issues that we touched on today. Thanks, Mark. Always great to have Mark along.   And,   we'll be back after somewhat of an abbreviated weekend here, clouding up again.   And we'll be back again on Monday, same time with,   hopefully, John Kocera. He's usually with us on Monday. So I trust you'll have a great weekend with you and your family. We love you, and we'll see you soon one way or the other.  



[02:01:09] Unknown:

Ciao. Go to go to docs.exposethematrix.com   and search for book of the hundreds.   I was trying to get that in before we went off air. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I I have it. I have my copy.  

[02:01:23] Unknown:

Okay. The other other caveat there, of course, is you gotta be Christian   to execute that according to the book of the hundreds. Chris  

[02:01:30] Unknown:

Chris fulfills that requirement.  

[02:01:34] Unknown:

Yes.   But Well, we also we also have the issue of  

[02:01:38] Unknown:

yeah. We also have the issue of the all cap name,   which I could do a lot with that,   the all cap name and and also the, my affidavit.  

[02:01:50] Unknown:

Yeah. You got some powerful tools in your in your quiver. You could put all those down in it.  

[02:01:57] Unknown:

Yeah. I would assume.  

[02:01:59] Unknown:

Yeah. The important thing with the all cap name   is that's just an entity they created, and it only applies to you if you agree   that it applies to you. So you need to rebut your connection between you and the all cap.  

[02:02:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Well, you can't spell a Christian name that way, can you?   Only after you're deceased.  

[02:02:21] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:02:23] Unknown:

Right. Right. Hey, Samuel.  

[02:02:27] Unknown:

Yeah?   Hey.  

[02:02:30] Unknown:

Can you,   explain   what it means to serve a party   if you're doing abatement?   What does that involve?   Hiring a process server  

[02:02:40] Unknown:

or something else? There's two ways that they suggest that they haven't in the book of the hundreds, you you might notice too. It's it's not really easy to notice when you do your first reading through there   is they have an old method and a new method, and the paperwork changes from the old method and the new method.   In the old method,   they would   have their paperwork changed a little bit, and they could either use   what they call a brother two brothers   to serve it,   or you go down to the sheriff's department   and you file   a service notice with them, and you give them your paperwork to serve it to the parties that you want served. That's the way they were doing it in there. And I don't know if if that see, they were doing that in the late nineties,   whether the sheriff's department still does those in the different counties.  

They were from California, Southern California.   I'm not sure anymore, but,   if you've got other   people who would serve it for you, you you could do it that way too. But, again, they should be Christians.  

[02:03:49] Unknown:

And they're the choirs. I've  

[02:03:51] Unknown:

used registered mail to serve these things.  

[02:03:57] Unknown:

I suppose Yeah. I'm not I'm not sure about that. I mean, they're they're real specific about what they want you to do and dot the I and cross the t   if you want them to guarantee it's gonna work. So I'm not sure that method is in there or not.  

[02:04:14] Unknown:

I would I would say personal service because   even with registered   mail   or certified mail,   unless it requires a signature for receipt and the intended recipient is actually who received it,   then,   you can prove that they actually had it in their hands.   But with a process server, they have to put it in the hand.   You know? Here. This is for you.  

[02:04:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Don't forget the sheriff's departments can serve too. You just gotta pay them to do it.   Yeah.  

[02:04:55] Unknown:

Well,   Paul,   when when a   when a process server serves it   or   a a third party   acting in the capacity of a process server, they have to file an affidavit into the court   Correct.   That's showing proof of service.   Correct. And I'm wondering if that's the same thing what Samuel's talking about too. If there's no court, what's the proof that it was served?  

[02:05:23] Unknown:

Two witnesses,   I would say.   Yeah. And paperwork that that they're filling out that they've served it.   So you're probably gonna get a signature from whoever you gave it to, those two witnesses. Right? That would be proof of service, wouldn't it?  

[02:05:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Witnesses. So  

[02:05:43] Unknown:

Yep. Okay. Anybody else got anything for me? You got a lot of time to fool around with that, Chris, but might be good to start on it right now.   Anybody else got anything for me?  

[02:05:54] Unknown:

Roger?  

[02:05:56] Unknown:

Yes. Alright. Yeah. Yes.  

[02:06:00] Unknown:

Yes.   So earlier, Samuel voiced his disagreement with Brent's referring to the government as a sovereign, and I tried to respond to that,   but the subject matter changed abruptly, and I'm plus I'm also at work. And I just wanted to say that what Brent was referring to is known as the dual sovereignty doctrine.   It distinguishes the federal government from the state governments   in The United States by allowing both to prosecute   individuals for the same crime   even if the individual has already been prosecuted   for the same act by the other government.  

The doctrine stems from the idea that the federal and state governments are separate sovereigns   with their own distinct legal systems and interests.  

[02:06:44] Unknown:

Okay.   Alright.   Isn't that funny? I don't I don't disagree with that.   Do you what, Julie?  

[02:06:53] Unknown:

I said, isn't that funny how they wanna have federal territories over all the states, to make it part of the federal government, but then when it comes to prosecuting individuals,   they wanna separate them so that they can tarnish us blade, you know, double.  

[02:07:08] Unknown:

Yep. They're they're very   all this   stuff they do.  

[02:07:13] Unknown:

The only way they have sovereignty is in this country is through people.   The word the sovereigns as a collective body politic,   they   you know? I mean,   they're   They create them. They're   overstepping their bounds when they create an entity that we never made them.   Because it's like blasphemy to me to to to put anything before the creator.  

[02:07:43] Unknown:

They know that. They just think they're God. Well, they they built they put they put the federal government in place of God, and he issued out civil rights.   Who was trying to say something there?   Roger. Can you hear me? I hear you. Who is it?  

[02:07:59] Unknown:

Hey,   Tirebinder. Hey. This is, Tim from Tucson. I've been under a rock for a while. Hey, Tim. Lord have mercy. Where in the world have you been? Yeah.   How are you? Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, I've been I've been flying in the federal zone,   a lot.   Yeah. And then keeping my head down.   I've been getting help from,   Merca's group and also,   all caps, Mark.   Hats off to both of you.   Been dealing with the IRS and,   the, withholding BS.   Ultimately,   that is, turned into kind of a they're gonna withhold anyway, and I just gotta do a ten forty n r at the end. Ten forty n r the next year. Yep. You you fly for you wanna Yeah. Say say who you fly for? They won't cooperate with this? You wanna say who they are, your employer? They won't they will not cooperate. Yeah. And, of course, you gotta go through one of those online,   ADT type of things   for   The, you know, paycheck payroll. Yeah. But, yeah, I, I've been trying to listen to some of your old shows, but I guess there are some technology issues that   I've been incompetent at. And I guess you had some electrical issues down there in the Oh my god. Around the Equator.  



[02:09:15] Unknown:

So Yeah. Well, we yeah. I think we had, in terms of elect election electrical problems.   But let's go. Are you having problems with the new,   with the new platform? Paul, can you help Tim out here, here, our good listener, Tim? Well,  

[02:09:31] Unknown:

I'm I'm working on that, conference what is it? Conference free conference thing. It seems to be working right now. I guess you all can hear me five five square arrow. Five five five. Yep. We're fine. Yeah. I guess that's working.  

[02:09:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Alright. And Well, I think, Paul, you're   good to hear your voice.   Well, it's great to hear you spoke speak with you. Is there some problem with you accessing the archives? Here's the man to ask that question to that can explain it. The the archives from 01/01/2025  

[02:10:02] Unknown:

to the current date,   those are on,   PodHome.   And how you get there is go to the matrixdogs.com   and click on the Global Voice Radio Network link. That'll, that'll take you straight to the   list of archives   and   all of the other archives,   pre,   01/01/2025   were imported into that site. They just don't have the,   the show notes and and the AI and the transcriptions   done on the older   programs, but they're all there.  

[02:10:40] Unknown:

All Well, I appreciate it. Of them. Yeah. You're right. Hey, Tim. You're you're a cornerstone all this. Yes. The the cool thing is you can go and have AI and get a transcript of the show,   and they're amazingly accurate. Oh, yeah.   Oh, that's good. I'll figure that out. I'm not sure Paul got there's a way to do it. I don't know how you do it, but I know the stuff he's read to us that it generated.   Well, it kinda shocked me with this accuracy, quite frankly.  

[02:11:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, good. Well, in my absence, I have been able to, recruit a few over,   over towards,   Mercka's,   Telegram there, and I'm sure they've been listening to you.  

[02:11:24] Unknown:

Right. Now listen. Now have you gone to Dave and Kay's website yet, Tim?  

[02:11:31] Unknown:

Dave and Kay's.   Yes. That's your fault. Dave and Kay's website? No. No. No. That's not what's going on. I have been there. That it's it's that yes. It is,   it's very well done. I I I Okay. Really am quite impressed.   Yes.  

[02:11:48] Unknown:

Well, me too.   So I just wanna make sure you knew about that one.  

[02:11:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Absolutely.   Yes. And, if you get anybody in,   in Arizona,   shoot them my way because I definitely can point them   in the right direction in that state.  

[02:12:06] Unknown:

Okay.   We need somebody in that state. I know there's some people or somebody that was gonna want to start some meetings, and I've just never heard from them again. So it's still hanging out there on the end of the limb at this point, Tim. But should that arise, I'll remember it as best I can. Sure. They're  

[02:12:24] Unknown:

probably hiding under rocks too because Could've been. Anybody that knows Tucson knows that's pretty much everywhere. Oh, yeah. That's just that's where I lived in Argentina. They compared it to Tucson.   Oh, good lord. Sorry to hear that.  

[02:12:38] Unknown:

Yeah. No. It was delightful. Yeah. I like it out of the rock, though.   Yeah. No. The high desert climate is   is is really nice. I've never lived in a totally dry climate before, and it was really nice. I liked it.   But it has It's really not dry. It's really dry. It's the  

[02:12:57] Unknown:

the snowbirds are starting to leave right about now. Oh, okay. Right. And then they'll come back in around October.  

[02:13:04] Unknown:

Right. Right. Right.   God bless them.   So, Tim, what else? Did you have some other questions we can deal with for you?  

[02:13:14] Unknown:

No. Not not as of right now.   It's,   I just wanted to touch base with you with you all  

[02:13:23] Unknown:

and, and just say hello. So Thank you, man. It was great to hear your voice, and I'm good to know you're still out there and that your efforts are hopefully being rewarded.   And you come back and visit with us whenever you're   not flying in the federal zone, I guess.  

[02:13:40] Unknown:

Tim? Will do.   Hey, Rogers for you.  

[02:13:44] Unknown:

Oh, there's William. Here's another fly boy, Tim. Hold on. Paul's got something to add.   Okay.  

[02:13:51] Unknown:

Oh, I just I just have a question for Tim. Did you catch the Friday show from yesterday?  

[02:13:58] Unknown:

No. I did not. You did not? Okay. Well I'll check out Global Voice.  

[02:14:02] Unknown:

Yeah. Global Voice Network. It's radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   The link is on the matrixdocs.com.  

[02:14:13] Unknown:

And if you go there Yeah. I haven't been there in a while. I in fact, I think that's where I caught a few of,   the English Paul's  

[02:14:22] Unknown:

Yeah. Sessions  

[02:14:24] Unknown:

or, you know, his his jobs.  

[02:14:26] Unknown:

Yeah. Right. Well well, the show notes for Friday   and I didn't write these. Yeah. Hey. I did. The show notes for yesterday were Right. In this episode of the Radio Ranch hosts, Roger Sales and Brent Allen Winters delve into   a wide variety of topics, exploring the intricacies of common law, property taxes, and the concept of sovereignty.   They discuss the historical context and implications   of property taxes, the differences between common law and the law of the city, and the significance of due process.   The conversation also touches   on the cultural and religious   influences on government systems, particularly   in relation to The United States and Mexico.  

Additionally, the hosts engage with listeners' questions about naturalization,   the process of becoming a national, and the implications of the 1933   bankruptcy   on the American financial system.   The episode is rich with historical references and legal insights, providing listeners with a deeper understanding   of the legal and cultural frameworks that shape governance and personal freedoms.   The discussion is both educational and thought provoking,   encouraging listeners to consider   the broader implications   of law and governance in their daily lives.  

[02:15:50] Unknown:

Well said.  

[02:15:52] Unknown:

Just sounds like Elon Is it?   Sounds like Elon talking himself, doesn't it?  

[02:15:59] Unknown:

It sure does. On another note, can you guys confirm that the iTero   one guy,   Sarge, passed away?  

[02:16:08] Unknown:

Yes. He  

[02:16:10] Unknown:

did. Oh, yeah. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. Yes. We all were. Yep.  

[02:16:15] Unknown:

Yep. Good guy.   Had had health problems, I think, probably most of his later adult life   and finally succumbed to him. I was kinda shocked myself.   And all that stuff we're talking about, primate and everything else, when we're talking about, I couldn't help but think about his wife. That's now got all that stuff dumped in her lap and all of his MLM deals and,   everything else. And, don't tell him how well Jim set that up. So,   hopefully, it works very smooth. William, meet one of your fellow, fly boys, if you will. This is Tim.   He flies for Southwest. I so out there, and he's out at Tucson. William has a well, tell him what you do there in Augusta, William.  



[02:17:01] Unknown:

Yeah. I fly for a $1.35 charter operator. We're a small I call it small. We got only got four or five airplanes.   But,   I went through the with our company because we have ADP, and,   I submitted the WABEN.   And,   they submitted it to the accountant. The accountant pushed back and said, no. You need to fill out a w four.   And I said, no. I'm a nonresident alien individual. This is the form I need to fill out. And she said, oh, okay. And processed it, and it stopped Social Security,   FICA.   Oh, really? Federal and state with   this. Not very easy. Wow. Yep. Did I It was really weird, like, I was at I w  

[02:17:42] Unknown:

what's that? Did you fill it out the way, just, Joe Lustica,  

[02:17:47] Unknown:

kinda did it? No. Well, I watched I watched his video I watched his video on it. I just I didn't do brackets and all that weird stuff. I just filled it out,   you know, with with my local address,   because, you know, they they try to conflate, you know, where your domicile didn't   that being your residency, and that's that's not what it is. So they're two separate things.  

[02:18:12] Unknown:

Tim, I just wanted to say on the online stuff where you go in I don't know who which system it is, but we had a fellow who had a pretty high income job there in Dallas and went through this. And he said all he did was go in. You've got control of it to some extent.   And he found the option that says exempt and checked it, and they immediately   stopped taking everything out. And I don't believe he's never called back saying it didn't work.  

[02:18:38] Unknown:

I I did that to start with. Okay. Yeah. Because because we had a That did work for about a year.  

[02:18:44] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay. I that's when I started getting the barrage   of, letters from   the IRS.   It's from their withholding agent   in Connecticut.   And,   that's where I was working with,   Mark Olkaps   on. And, again, thanks, Mark. Well And then I have been going back and forth back and forth with them. And then finally, they just keep saying, well, we are   requiring your employer to withhold.  

[02:19:18] Unknown:

So that's where I have to do the ten forty And and so that's not your hold it. That's not your employer saying that. Is that somebody associated with another accountancy or what?  

[02:19:31] Unknown:

No. That is,   the   the IRS   withholding,   department Oh, okay. And over   NASS, I guess. NASS.   Yeah. That's what we're I'm sure they're requiring the employer.  

[02:19:46] Unknown:

If your people at at human resource or whoever does all that stuff, if they get that from the IRS, they're going to adhere to it, would be my guess.  

[02:19:56] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. But if But I'll try that 9.  

[02:20:00] Unknown:

Yeah. If you do the 8 e n and they don't accept it,   Joe Lustica's got a form where you can file a complaint against your employer as a withholding agent   for not accepting your your forms.  

[02:20:13] Unknown:

There's another option, Tim. You might wanna see if you can get a hold of the IRS outfit that's doing this and ask them what's your next step in your administrative appeal.  

[02:20:25] Unknown:

Yeah.   That's yeah. That was in one of my letters to them, and I sent it to,   both   both addresses. One going to an Andover   and the other one going,   to Fresno, I believe it was. Mhmm.  

[02:20:42] Unknown:

Mhmm. Because I had I had a different boss before, and, I actually got his position about six months ago. So   our accountable executive   I just was like, hey. I need to get this to the accountant   because,   you know, we don't have a HR department or anything like that. We're too small.   But,   my other boss, you know, he I hold a one nineteen position with the FAA, which is   the way aviation   companies are managed, they're highly regulated, and the government   requires,   approval of your senior management positions. So, like, your director of operations, your safety manager,   your chief pilot,   all those have to be approved by the government. They're you're they're your employees at the company, but they all have to be approved by the government. And adhere to,   part one nineteen is super highly regulated.  

I like it. And so so my previous boss was he was like, oh, you can't hold a one nineteen position if you're not a citizen. Like, that's a requirement. And I was like, I am a citizen. I'm a state citizen. You know? So,   he and I were kind of at odds and butting heads on it. And,   so I just did the withholding on the w four on the ADP website and just did exempt   and just went ahead and paid the FICA. And then,   he ended up   resigning about six months later, and that's when I got I got in his position in   as the director of operations. And I was like, this is how it's gonna be. So Okay. Good for you. I got my Yeah. Good. I got my Thank you. It's privileges, will you?   It does. Yeah. So I sent my w a b in,   and I explained it to our accountable executive, you know, some of this stuff. And she's like, oh, man. This is freaking me out. You know, I've been in her mind a little bit.  

But,   but, yeah, that's what I ended up having to do. It it it didn't work. You know, I couldn't get the w eight b n to start with, but, once I got it in there,   my w two this year actually looked kinda weird,   because it has it as other income that's not taxable.   So, like, the first half of the year,   I had income in what they call box four, and then   now I've got income. I forget what box number it's in, but it's not really income. It's like other   like other payments.   Yes. It's really it's really kinda strange. So it is accounted for on the w two, then that made me feel a little better.   Like, if I were gonna try to get a loan or something like that, they want they want your w two. And I said, man, if I do this w eight b n, I'm not gonna have any any sort of documentation that I'm being paid   at all. So but it does. It shows up in a weird box on there.  



[02:23:23] Unknown:

It's just not Can you not report nonreported income? That's what it is. Nonreported income. William. William, I just His fellow. I just have abbreviators. On my address. Yeah. I was gonna say y'all ought to get each other's contact information. That's what I was gonna try and inject. Yeah.  

[02:23:39] Unknown:

Oh, I don't know how it would work with that. Thing out  

[02:23:42] Unknown:

I was gonna say know how the hilarious thing out of all this back and forth with the IRS.   After all those letters, I I get a survey sent to me on how how their how the customer experience was.  

[02:23:58] Unknown:

Oh, boy.   Oh, boy.  

[02:24:02] Unknown:

Yeah.   As you as you say so eloquently,   Roger, individuals representing Satan. So that was a that was a survey from Satan.  

[02:24:11] Unknown:

There you go.   Isn't that accurate? That was an old patriot in Atlanta that came up with that. I kinda borrowed it from him. I'm pretty sure he's probably not still with us, but,   it's a great phrase because it's so descriptive.   So descriptive.   William, I was thinking, I I don't I think I probably got your email   address in my database.   I could put you two together that way.   But Yeah. That'd be good. Without looking, I'm not totally   serious. If you just wanna exchange emails here, we're off the air except for Paul's reporting it. Yeah. My email is just my full name. It's williamscottwith2t'[email protected].  

[02:24:58] Unknown:

It's long, but it's long.  

[02:25:00] Unknown:

Did you get that, Jim?  

[02:25:03] Unknown:

Yes.   William Scott with two ts. What's the rest of it? Robert, so o b  

[02:25:09] Unknown:

e r t s o n.  

[02:25:11] Unknown:

Did you say Scott or dot?  

[02:25:14] Unknown:

Scott.  

[02:25:15] Unknown:

Okay. I'm I'm guessing. William Scott Robertson at   Yahoo dot com. And that was at Yahoo. Okay.  

[02:25:23] Unknown:

Yep. Yahoo.   Alright. Well, I always encourage y'all to hook up with each other, especially   you get some kind of a profession   as exact as aviation.  

[02:25:35] Unknown:

Well, it's just there's so much government. Involvement.  

[02:25:39] Unknown:

Yes. And, William, you can check the, the   three conference call chat session there. I d d d m'd you my address.  

[02:25:49] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:25:51] Unknown:

Alright. Perfect. Cool. Alright. Yep.  

[02:25:53] Unknown:

So and Moe never did show up, unfortunately?   I'm kinda disappointed at that. I was hoping to speak with her more at length today.  

[02:26:04] Unknown:

I did I did wanna mention, Roger, the all the TikTok videos I put up from I told you about the other week.   They've garnered over 50,000 views, and I now have, like, 3,000 followers.  

[02:26:17] Unknown:

Holy smokes. That may be where some of this traffic on the website's coming from.  

[02:26:22] Unknown:

I've been directing everybody to the website and to the, radio show and posting the number.   And,   you know, there's been some people commenting on there, some of the straw man crap,   all caps name. And   Yeah. Yeah. They'll go to national what do they call it? It's Americanstatenational.com   or whatever, and Yvonne Wright's site.   I'm like, no. No. Don't go there.  

[02:26:44] Unknown:

No. Please.  

[02:26:46] Unknown:

And they're like, oh, David Strait talked about this, and I'm like, don't listen to him.  

[02:26:50] Unknown:

Dave David Strait ain't talking about too much anymore.   Right.   Unfortunately for him. But fortunately for the country,   they're not being exposed to that anymore.  

[02:27:03] Unknown:

And I even posted Sarah's story from,   child protective notices. I've been through fantastic.  

[02:27:08] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:27:10] Unknown:

So it's it's  

[02:27:12] Unknown:

maybe we'll get a little exposure and momentum over there. William, you're you're performing over and above the call of duty, and I and everyone else appreciate it. And may they mimic your example.  

[02:27:23] Unknown:

K? I hope so.  

[02:27:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Me too, man. We'll get there. You know, I feel honestly, I feel like Martin Luther King sometime. You know?   We'll we'll get to the promised land. I may not be there with you.  

[02:27:35] Unknown:

Yeah. I got an argument with I won't call it an argument. It was a discussion with a guy, and I'm pretty sure he might have been an agent from IRS because   he used those exact words that IRS uses. Like, these arguments have been,   constantly   rejected by the courts. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep.   And I was like, well, what about this? What about this? Oh, you're just twisting the legal terminology there. I'm like, I'm not twisting anything.  

[02:28:03] Unknown:

Who's where who is this you were discussing this with?  

[02:28:06] Unknown:

There's just some guy on, let me see if I can even find it on TikTok now. But Oh, okay. He was a comment. Exchange.   Yeah. He was on a TikTok comment thread.  

[02:28:18] Unknown:

And, you know,  

[02:28:21] Unknown:

he was he was, you know, coming back with, you know, the same old arguments that they have. Sure. And I was I was putting forth the arguments that we have,   you know, with, your tiki versus the RC.   Yeah. And he's like, oh, that just relates to,   you know, passport status, you know, passport and citizenship. And I was like, yeah. Exactly. You're you're exactly correct. Thank you.  

[02:28:44] Unknown:

Well, cool. That's  

[02:28:47] Unknown:

cool. But yeah. So maybe we're getting some exposure there that'll lead some people over.   Because I've been pointing on I've been pointing on the Merca's group. You know, I've been pointing on Merca's group. I'm like, hey. If you're on Telegram, search up National Status Freedom,   and Merca can help you out. Because some people are like, oh, I got this particular situation.   They're commenting. One guy said, I'm having issues in Kentucky. And I was like, well, if you guys, you know, particular situations, you need to reach out  

[02:29:13] Unknown:

to to Merca or come on the show and ask your question. Yeah. Yeah. We're right here six days a week and and love to entertain that kind of stuff. Well, I just wanna thank you, William, for,   the the complete ground you're covering, how you're doing it, and all the efforts you're putting into it. I know it takes personal   sacrifice. We really appreciate it. And everybody else that's doing whatever you're doing and you're able to do. And, many hands Even   even Michael Nail reached out on there, and, I think Joe Lusticka commented on there. So Oh, cool. It's pretty neat. There's two people from our group on there. Yeah. That is cool. Well, many many hands make for light work, and I don't know. I didn't know where this was going when I got on the air with it fourteen years ago. And I've just doggedly pursued it, and it has really, really reaped   some some some great benefits.  

And,   and I'm so pleased,   and, us and well, you become a family for me. And, you know, my mom is passing, and my brother's sticking it up my ass. I never wanted to speak to him again.   So, you guys are it whether whether you like it or not.  

[02:30:23] Unknown:

Well, I appreciate everything, Roger. You've changed my life. I came to you thing. I came to you through John Garland. And, Yes. I knew that. In the past past two years have just been,  

[02:30:32] Unknown:

life changing to me. It's empowering. You know? You tell why you're so here.  

[02:30:37] Unknown:

Yeah. I've been free since 02/2022  

[02:30:41] Unknown:

Yep. When I ran into you. Yep. Well, I'm just tickled to death. That's what I am. I I believe that's what God put me on this earth to do. K? And trained me my whole adult adult life to do this right now,   right here. And I'm tickled to death to answer the call. Okay? Y'all y'all were talking about South Africans earlier. One of  

[02:31:02] Unknown:

my good FOs, he's he's had heart trouble, so we've had him in administrative duties. But,   he was he's from South Africa and, immigrated here in the late eighties, early nineties.   And he was telling me, yesterday about his brother   got killed. I got murdered down there.   He was in the phone booth calling his girlfriend. It was before cell phones. And,   and some of those came up behind him and slid him ear to ear and and robbed him and killed him in the Sheesh. Phone booth there. And then his mom, who still lives over there,   was shot in the stomach and carjacked and left for dead.  

And, she survived.   And then, he's been with several people that had his daughter kidnapped and raped and killed,   and,   and they just stay down there.   It's just unreal. Unreal, some of his stories. And, he was he was born in present day Zimbabwe, and he fought in the South African army. And he's just got Right.   Crazy stories, and,   it's just unreal.   People just don't know.  

[02:32:01] Unknown:

That's the problem   with invasion through immigration.   Because we've got a lot of people that are trying to come into this country   that come from a completely different culture and a completely different,   respect or disrespect,   whichever,   for human life,   for, personal property,   for everything else. As far as John Garland,   he's a rock star. And if you,   take away from his situation   anything,   take away the fact that he actually   peppered   all of his local agencies with notices.   He did not hold back.   He let everybody know who he was and what he was. Very critical.  

[02:32:44] Unknown:

That right there.   Absolutely. Hey, Roger. Yeah. Well yeah. Hey, Willie. It's Bob. Hey, Bob. Bob.  

[02:32:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Hey. I wanted to piggyback on William. Congratulations.   Love your effort.   Longtime listener here,   and it's very nice to hear,   your, let's say, growth and, evolution,   into somebody who isn't just a listener but an active participant. Gotta take my hat off to you. Very much appreciated.   In reference to the South African situation, we have had my brother and I have had h two a workers from South Africa since 02/2003.   And,   yeah, the bad things that they talk about and that the mainstream media dismisses as hearsay   is absolutely true. It's been true for decades now since everybody got woke down there.  

And, yeah, it's it's just atrocious. It's,   it's it's   it's it's stupefying   to me. And I mean that in the most literal sense, it just makes you drop your jaw that there can be that kind of disparity.   You know.   Well, I mean, it can't be racist because they're white.   They're not arguing about whether it's done,   being done, whether or not it exists. It's just that, well, it's they've earned it.   And it's it's   pathetic.   And the whole   the whole   South African   story   is very misunderstood.   That the the black's trying to say that they're just taking back what was rightfully theirs.   There was basically nobody there when the Dutch showed up.  

And they did purchase it from the people who were there, who were happy to get rid of it.   And yeah. It's   this this colonialism   bullshit,   it's it's   invalid in this case.   And,   these   these,   people stirring the pot   are rewriting history, essentially.   And, yeah, it's it's just atrocious. I get to talk to them on a daily basis. We don't necessarily because you get tired of it. You know?   But I've got six of the South Africans here.   Right now, they've been here since the middle of,   March, basically,   and we'll be here through the December.   And one of them,   I think this will be his eleventh or twelfth season with us. So,   gotten to know him quite well,   and,   they can tell you some stories.  



[02:35:40] Unknown:

And they're not all good. Hey. Thank you, Bob. He told me that,   that he went up he'd go in the war in the North Congo, and   he said he came back and they were handing the keys of the kingdom to Mandela. And,   he said that's when he knew he had to leave. You know?  

[02:35:54] Unknown:

Yeah. He's It's interesting that   clear back in 1988,   I was working a job South of Fort Worth, Dallas,   in Midlothian, Texas.   And I met a fellow   from Zimbabwe,   a white guy,   an expatriate from Zimbabwe. He was working there on the dairy farm,   putting himself through a and p school, which would be near and dear to your heart, William.   And he now works for Turbomeca.   And he's been in their management now for twenty five years or thirty.   For those that don't know, Turbomeca is a French owned,   turbine engine manufacturer   with an international presence in aviation and others.  

And   he said the reason I'm no longer in Zimbabwe is because it's no longer Zimbabwe.   That's right. It he lost his father, one brother   to the fighting.   If they were in Ireland, they could call it the troubles.   But, he's actually a virus extraction.   But,   yeah. He he and one brother and a sister are in The US and I don't know. I think his mother at that point would and several brothers and a sister were still   in,   what well, sorry. I misspoke. The reason he was no longer in Zimbabwe is because it is Zimbabwe. It had been Rhodesia. I was I made my point wrong.   It was   it was an export.  

You know? I mean, it was a net exporter.   And   within five years under,   oh, gosh. What was the guy's name? Joseph, Mugabe.   Mugabe, I believe. Yeah. Mugabe. Yeah. The butcher.   Within five years under him, they couldn't feed themselves,   much less export.  

[02:37:57] Unknown:

And it got worse, and it got worse, and it got worse. They were the breadbasket of Africa while the whites were in control of this world. Yeah.  

[02:38:05] Unknown:

Exceptionally fertile,   well organized, etcetera, and it just took it to the mat.   Yep. Anyway, yeah, it's, it's tragic.   But, well, congratulations, William. Very glad to hear your progress and your your journey and your your, your evangelical nature.   Yes. Thank you, Bob. The word.   Appreciate it.  

[02:38:27] Unknown:

IU. Yep. Thank you, Bob. Bob Bob, things have really changed around here since you first started hanging around, haven't they?  

[02:38:37] Unknown:

Yeah. With Sarge's passing, I was reflecting on that because you know the story, and many of them have have heard me say the first day I called in   was the day that Sarge had told you that he had received his passport.  

[02:38:51] Unknown:

Oh, oh, really? Okay. Boy, that was a long time ago.  

[02:38:54] Unknown:

Yep. That was back in, like, '14, I think, 2014  

[02:38:58] Unknown:

or something like that. You were still on the micro effect at that point. Well, I was real sorry to see him make that decision he made where we kind of, you know, didn't   as much in contact as we used to be, but   so be it. You know?  

[02:39:14] Unknown:

Yeah. I was on the sidelines for all that. I really didn't know what happened. I because I don't remember. There was some Yeah. I'm not I'm not gonna rehash it here, but it always revolved around. My point. I'm just Revolved. I'm just saying that I wasn't even aware of what happened because Right. It happened during the midst of a change in in, where the shows were at and everything. And by the time I figured out where everybody was, they weren't all the same place.  

[02:39:39] Unknown:

Yeah. There's still a lot of questions I have about that, but I just kinda let dead dogs lying go on. You know?   Yeah. So,   anyway, thank you, Bob, for being as loyal as you've been for all these years.   Was that Samuel?  

[02:39:54] Unknown:

Yeah.   Missouri Liberty Radio is gonna   you know, they Jim was on there, and they're gonna keep,   they're gonna be replaying reruns there of Jim's work   Yeah. Just so people who wanna if they didn't hear Jim before, they or they wanna keep up.   Because I didn't go to that station   really and never listened to Jim. I always listened to him on his other program,   after yours.   I guess he had the other show earlier in the morning.   But,   so that would probably all be new stuff for me. At some point, I'm gonna try to go there, and they seem to be   good Christian folk. They were at his memorial.  

I think   the the owner's name is Sam and his wife is Trish.   And, they said a lot of nice things about Jim and   what he did for their for their group.  

[02:40:49] Unknown:

You know something, Samuel?  

[02:40:51] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:40:52] Unknown:

That couple, they're both blind.  

[02:40:55] Unknown:

Oh, really? Yes. Totally blind.  

[02:40:58] Unknown:

Good for them.  

[02:41:00] Unknown:

Yep. Doc introduced me to them,  

[02:41:03] Unknown:

some years back  

[02:41:05] Unknown:

to help them out with their when they got into Youngevity.  

[02:41:10] Unknown:

Yeah. The other thing, Roger, is Jim wasn't really suffering any health problems. I mean, he had a lot of problems   when he was still in the allopathic medicine at 40. He he he pretty much said he'd they'd almost killed him by then.   And he,   he went rogue and went alternative, and taught himself alternative stuff, and   totally changed all his conditions. If you go to his website, yourdoityourselfhealth.com,   he talks about that there. He had like 12 life threatening and miserable conditions including   bone on bone, in his knees. He rebuilt all that with the longevity.   And that's the Yeah. The really weird thing about Jim's passing is he was in excellent health.  



[02:41:54] Unknown:

Excellent Yeah. They just kinda came out of nowhere. Sounded like from what we talked about, it might have been some type of heart failure.  

[02:42:02] Unknown:

But Well, what happened is he about two months ago, Roger, he started out with a little bit of a cough,   and then that turned into   more and it and it affected his voice and then his lungs, then he started retaining water,   and then I think that just  

[02:42:18] Unknown:

overloaded his heart, you know. Spiraled into that. Well, that's well, Jim will be missed. He,   did did the Lord's work while he was here, and he was well respected and liked and helped a lot of people.   That's   a hell of an obituary right there in itself.   So,   listen. Do anybody got anything else for me? I think I'm gonna go start my abbreviated weekend. Tim, it's really good to see you pop in with us. And maybe,   if you got time in the future, you can do that more often. We love talking with you, all of you.   So   we're making nice progress, I guess.  

Just   pray for Donald Trump.  

[02:43:06] Unknown:

Hey, Ross. Did,   I think his name's Angelo up at Spring Hill, Florida. Did he ever get in touch with you?  

[02:43:13] Unknown:

I have not heard from him. No. And I think there was two Angelos out of Florida. There was a young one and an older one.   He, I believe, was the older one.  

[02:43:24] Unknown:

Well, the one I talked about at Spring Hill was the younger one. I think he was in, like, '25 or something. I've been trying to reach out to him, but I hadn't hadn't gotten any response. I'm just curious if you ever gotten ahold of you with a Well with an He didn't. And we've never heard him back on the show since, but maybe one of these days we will, Bob.  

[02:43:44] Unknown:

And, though, no big deal. You just never know around here. You know? I mean, I would've never expected to hear from Tim today, and here he is with us. And so,   and take it a day at a time. Yes. There's Dave. He's always here. Yes, sir.  

[02:43:59] Unknown:

Scotty,   let me, read something before you split. When you started today about when I got on a little late, you told me about comedy and,   about,   talking about bowel movements. Anyway, this is a little thing about,   red skeleton   and his last performance.   He made a little bit of a speech. He stopped and spoke as the man, as not as the comedian.   And it's for a paragraph, if you like me to read it.  

[02:44:30] Unknown:

It's from Vincennes,   Indiana.   I believe Brent has illuminated us. Go ahead, Scotty.  

[02:44:37] Unknown:

Alright. So if you ever listen to what Red Skelton said during his final performance, you'd understand why his legacy still resonates so deeply.   That night in Atlanta, the legendary clown gave the world one last show filled with laughter,   warm memories, and an unexpected wave of heartbreak.   He brought back his most beloved characters,   Freddy the Freeloader, the Seagulls, and others. Each welcomed like an old friend. The energy in the room was joyous, just like so many times before, but something shifted near the end.   With about fifteen minutes remaining, Red gently stopped,   holding Freddie's warm brown hat in his hands.  

He stepped forward. The crowd fell silent. In that moment, he wasn't a clown or a performer.   He was simply a man with something sincere to share. In a soft even voice, Red reflected   on how comedy has changed.   His tongue wasn't angry, just sorrowful.   He recalled a time when humor was uplifting,   when it built people up rather than tore them down.   He mourned the loss of innocence and laughter.   That evening, Red Skelton didn't just say goodbye.   He issued a heartfelt plea, a plea to preserve what he called   clean   comedy,   the kind that didn't need shock or cruelty to be funny, the kind that he had devoted his life to. His voice cracked slightly as he urged us to protect it. To never forget the humor, when rooted in kindness,   could be powerful.  

It was a message   not only to his audience that night, but to generations   of entertainers to come. As the curtain lowered, red bowed, not just as Freddie or a clown, but as a man who had carried the torch for something rare and beautiful.   His final words weren't a punchline,   but a parting gift. A reminder that comedy with heart can comfort, connect,   and heal.   And that   that the truest form of humor.   One of the that honors both the comic and the crowd,   which will never go out of style. So I thought that was fitting with your little comedy bit. Well, it's very interesting. Like, humor's coming back,  

[02:46:56] Unknown:

now that we've gotten some some sanity.   But during those those Biden years, if you'll remember, there wasn't any humor.   Yeah. Communism is just flat dark. Okay?   So it's good to be seeing some humor. Julie sent me something I watched a little bit of this morning,   over in Abu Dhabi. It's kinda funny, and and it's coming back. So the world's changing, and and it's just like Trump said yesterday, I believe, the   the the,   America's getting to be respected again.   K?   Around the world, people are starting to respect America again, and, by golly, they fear Trump.   K?  

So he's just a he's a historical   figure   that I'm just so pleased to be living   when he's in governing the country, especially   in this second term.   However,   I'm not sure   that Julie still feels that way. Yes, ma'am?  

[02:47:56] Unknown:

It's me, Julie.  

[02:47:57] Unknown:

I know.  

[02:47:59] Unknown:

Hey, Roger.   I was gonna,   Antonio, I think, reached out to me in the chat room. I think the younger Antonio was on your show today.   I'm not sure which one that   yeah.   Okay. So I'm not sure which one. I think he was just lurking in the in the silence and in the quiet arena and didn't really wanna talk. So I'm gonna email him. You you know my old saying, Julie. I turned a phrase on this one.  

[02:48:27] Unknown:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.   So when he's ready to think, he'll come to the trough.  

[02:48:37] Unknown:

Roger. I I No. I think I think he's thinking.   He just doesn't have any questions.  

[02:48:43] Unknown:

Hey. Lurking is good. Okay. Okay. I'm not putting him down. I just I don't I never push anybody.   You've got to do this at your own speed and comfort level.   Larry, what do you have  

[02:48:56] Unknown:

to insert? Yeah. Regarding, mister Ram passed away very suddenly and inexplicably,   can we rule out that he didn't have any enemies in high places in the pharmaceutical industry?  

[02:49:08] Unknown:

Oh, I,   I don't know that you couldn't rule that out, but I it doesn't seem to be any suspicious   kind of nature to his passing that I've seen anybody or heard anybody voice, Larry.  

[02:49:23] Unknown:

So You can't rule it out? And No. Samuel, didn't you mention that you heard Jim say   he thought he may be targeted?  

[02:49:32] Unknown:

No. What I heard I think I heard it, but I'm not sure. But Mirka reinforced   it, so I'm probably   heard it from Jim because she heard the same thing that Jim encountered   some of that strange fog.  

[02:49:50] Unknown:

Mhmm. I remember that now. Yep. What? Don't forget that Saris Passa. Saris Passa was also taken out suddenly, and he was actually in hiding for two years prior to that.   So   it's it's not   just a a loan incident. I I Check check the toxicology  

[02:50:10] Unknown:

report.  

[02:50:11] Unknown:

Hey, Brent. I don't see them doing that to any of us. I mean,   I just don't. I know everybody's suspicious every time somebody passes, and I know the enemy is like that. But I don't think they had any ax to grind with Jim necessarily other than   being a Youngevity   distributor.   So, anyway, if you do feel feel how you want,   I I tend to not look at the suspicious side of things like Jim's passing,   But may have been. Don't know.   I do know that   I do know that my weekend,   as short as it is, is is shortening. Yes, sir?  

[02:50:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Larry, again. Yeah. I remember reading some articles   from years ago.   There is a rash of,   cancer doctors,   these that they apply all natural remedies,   and there's a rash of,   you know, mysterious,   you know, deaths behind a lot of these doctors. Yes. And, you know, so it it seems   yeah. It's it seems like it appears that the pharmaceutical industry is keeping an eye on on, you know, different people.  

[02:51:31] Unknown:

Could be. Don't know. I'm not saying it's not possible. I just don't tend to look at things like that that way. If there's some suspicious outward things about it, it'd be different, but I don't believe there is.   Anyway, does anyone else have any did Mo ever show up?  

[02:51:48] Unknown:

Or   Roger,   Mo Mo did say, I think, she had to work today. So that's probably why she's not here. Well, she says she works two jobs.  

[02:51:58] Unknown:

And,   then I asked her again if she could squeeze in. She said she thought she could. Evidently, she couldn't. That's fine. It she's obviously interested, and   my   my theory is she'll pop back up there, mister Sketch.  

[02:52:13] Unknown:

Yep. And and I just wanna say we're really blessed to have you on this Sabado, so enjoy the rest of your day.  

[02:52:20] Unknown:

Alright. A little what's left of it, and, tomorrow I can sleep late and all that kind of stuff. So,   I'll see y'all on Monday,   god willing, and we'll see what happens in the world over the next day and a half.   So great to see all of you. Glad you're along. You're very welcome,   and, I'll talk with you again soon.   Ciao. Thanks, Rod. Thank you, Rod. You're very all of you are very welcome. Bye bye.  

[02:52:47] Unknown:

See, you gotta get a bib to put two weeks to flatten the curve. Well, a bib will protect the curve when you eat.   Mhmm.  

[02:52:57] Unknown:

Okay.   Sounds like a plan. Does anybody else have anything to add to, what we talked about?  

[02:53:07] Unknown:

One last thing.   I'm not a MENSA member,   but I know that somebody   that is a MEN   MEN MENSA member   just can't get the message.   And, obviously,   he doesn't deserve being a MENSA   member.   I yield.  

[02:53:28] Unknown:

See, I was gonna say we almost had Moe. We definitely had Larry, and Roger kicked off Curly Joe.  

[02:53:36] Unknown:

That is true.   Alright.   Okay. Well, if nobody's got anything to add to today's program, let's,   put this baby to bed. Thank you so much for joining us for the Sabado edition of the Rogers Sales Radio Ranch,   and   that,   occurred   just a moment ago   on   05/17/2025.   Don't forget the matrix starks.com   and, the links to Eurofoc Radio, Global Voice Radio, the links to the archives,   the links to the new student section, the links to free conference calls so you can actually join us live on the show. We've got plenty of room for you. Pack a lunch, bring some popcorn,   sit down,   and stay a while.  

Thanks for joining us. We'll catch you right back here Monday   with the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and cohost,   John Kasarab.   Bye now.   Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

[02:54:57] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming  

[02:55:03] Unknown:

king.