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Ah, Alvin, as would we. And we will take another attempt at it here on a, oh, a Monday.

Monday, Monday. Can't trust that day. Here we go with the Radio Ranch on the August

11,

almost halfway through August. Unbelievable.

With Roger Sales. Good morning.

Hope you had a good weekend.

At this point, we generally bring Paul out.

Mondays, we usually don't have any affiliates too much anyway with us, but we'll see who we got and get them identified and recognized and all that kind of good stuff as we start off the week here. Morning, Paul. Hope you had a good weekend.

Yeah. Yeah. I did. Pretty good.

Hope yours your abbreviated weekend was good.

Pretty quiet.

Well, that's a good thing.

Mine was quiet yesterday too. It was very hot, but it was quiet. So,

we're on eurofolkradio.com.

Thanks to pastor Eli James,

and

we're also on Global Voice Radio Network. That's radio.globalvoiceradio.net.

Our website

is the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com.

You'll find a bunch of stuff. It's like a drink out of a fire hose. There is another website,

David and Kay's website, nationalstatus.com.

That one,

very clean.

Nice nice website, lots of information.

Use free conference call to, join us on the show. You'll find the links to FCC, I believe, on both websites,

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and global voice,

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You'll find those links. You can

either dial us up by landline telephone. You can send a text message to the number, and the system will call you back in case your provider charges you out of network

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You know, there is some,

cellular providers that are charging their customers a,

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to be connected to conference lines.

It's ridiculous.

Absolutely stupid.

I guess unlimited talk and text doesn't mean unlimited

anymore.

But, anyways,

you can also join us by smartphone, tablet, or computer.

And the links are all right there on the website.

Mhmm. Check the definitions, Paul. Check the definitions.

Redefined prints and the terms and conditions. Yes. That's always good when you're dealing with banditos.

Could you go over I had a question that I couldn't really answer right now from one of our old listeners. I'm gonna incorporate two things here as we start.

Tess, one of the

one of the,

gals from Colorado,

quilting session out there, and she has relocated

to Tennessee.

And,

part of the problem is that she had a mobile home towed

to Tennessee, and whoever did the towing

just about wrecked the mobile home.

Bent the frame, all kinds of stuff, and she's been there,

I don't know, a year or so. And, anyway, she's new, and

she can't find an attorney. And, the statute of limitations is about to run out on this. And I know one time before,

we had our, our pregnant couple that had had

you know, they'd flown the baby up to Knoxville in the helicopter, and the mother was there, and the mother-in-law and all that stuff. And somebody had an organization

in Tennessee

in their hip pocket, which would help

patriots and stuff. So,

if anybody's got,

some kind of a good attorney, particularly in the Eastern Part Of Tennessee or an organization

that tests,

might could contact on this,

shoot me a email. I guess best way to do it or else come on the air and tell us. And, I don't know if she's listening, though.

But we'd like to see if we can get, test some help there in Eastern Tennessee with an attorney

to fight this, thing on this mobile home transfer before the statute of limitation runs out. K? Now the other thing Tess asked me was where is the

where are the archives on the web page? And quite honestly, I'm embarrassed to say I couldn't exactly tell her. Paul, could you inform the audience who I I told her it was down where the,

around where the listen live and all that information is. Is that correct?

Yeah. It's the,

it's the global voice radio link,

that goes straight to the archive page.

Okay. Is it identified or labeled? Is that labeled as archives at all, or is it just the global voice radio link? Well, the Global Voice Radio link goes there, but, also,

there is a link,

directly under the free conference call links that says,

Radio Ranch archives question mark.

Click here.

Alright. Okay. Good. And then right below that is the link to the,

GVN

resources

page where the my battle book is

hosted and

where we'll be putting more

audiobooks

as Okay.

As time and resources allow.

Mhmm. But, yeah, they're all right there on the yeah. It should come up on the the main screen for, the matrix stocks

right under your picture.

K. Well, I thought that's where it was, and I told her to look in that area.

But I just wasn't quite sure. So,

anyway, there we go.

We'll start this the week going. Now if you're new and somebody

queued you into our little get together here. We're we're here to fight Jewish slavery,

and they've enslaved the whole world for the most part, particularly our country and used our country to enslave the whole world with the dollar because we're the collateral for that. That's what your taxes are.

Tax issue

alert. They're saying we're gonna get rid of the income tax. We'll see.

But, I just want to let you new folks know that we, we're here to combat and over and defeat, which we do,

Jewish slavery,

which you're in, you're in fake Jewish slavery.

And if you'd like to get out of it, stick around. We'll show you how.

So good morning. Yikes.

I just saw a clip speaking of our wonderful ethnic partners.

You know, and they've got number of factions too in in there. Like, any,

well, any religion, for sure, has got different factions in the organization.

Sometimes it does.

Regardless, these folks have different factions, and, of course, one of them is the Orthodox

with the weird hats and the long garb, and they all dress alike and all that.

Well, I saw a clip on,

Harrison this morning.

Seems as if, things have gotten a little expensive in Brooklyn,

And a number of the,

Hasidic,

what do they call it? Assad Hassad Leibovitz,

I think. Remember the guy that came up out of the

sidewalk when the in New York when the tunnels were busted here couple years ago. Yeah. Yeah. It was like that those guys.

And it seems as, life has gotten a little expensive in Brooklyn, and they've taken off to New Jersey, Paul.

What? And, they were I know. I know. It's hard to believe, but it's evidently true.

If what I saw this morning here on this video in the,

back half of the second hour of Harrison and, a guy in Mammoek,

New Jersey,

that's that's a city, I believe, in New Jersey. I'm not sure where New Jersey it is. Mammoek,

New Jersey.

He's got a house there.

And he, looked out his back window and there was smoke. He could see smoke coming up. It's wooded back there, so, obviously, he was concerned.

So what he did, Paul, was he walked out there, and

he ran across a group of about 50 of these

with their little caps and all that. And immediately when he came up, they started diffusing.

Okay?

And it turns out they were had done some sort of a sacrifice back there,

and they had gotten a deer.

And and there I don't know whether it was sticks or what, but it was a number of sticks that were stuck in him. He was piled on a pallet,

and they were burning the poor old deer like the red heifer, I guess.

And,

watch out, folks. They're on the move.

These people are just so weird. It, usually, you wanna defer to the Orthodox as some sanity

as compared to the Zionist faction, which is totally insane.

Okay?

This is

the Sabotage

v,

Jacob Frank Zionist faction.

They're lunatics,

but these other people are grounded. Well, they're they're not quite normal either. They've got a whole,

saw a thing a while back. There's a bunch of them that moved down to Nicaragua

because the lax laws and stuff, and they've got this child abusing sect

that,

and I just don't know the specifics. I just know that was them. They've moved to New Jersey, and they got caught.

And here these people are. They've moved down to Mammoth, New Jersey, and they're

I wonder if they had a license to poach that deer.

It wouldn't make any difference because I doubt it. Make any difference because they're Jews, so they get off automatically anyway. You know? Yeah. They're clear where they're just freedom then. They're they're just weird. You know, I mean, here's there was a case. Now this came from a court case in New York City.

And, you know, of course, the circumcision.

Right?

And so they had the rabbi

circumcised the young boy,

and he bit off his the what they call that. There's a word for it in Yiddish. It's called putz.

That's the end of your foreskin that gets taken off when they circumcise you. That that's gotta be a hell of a traumatic event for a young kid.

K? Mhmm. There's no there's no telling what that does to people at that age. Anyway, they were doing this circumcision,

and the rabbi

bites off the foreskin with his teeth.

It's not bad enough that they lop off part of, you know,

pretty important member to a young man,

but, but he does it with his teeth. He bit it off, literally chewed and bit the foreskin of his penis off. And the reason it got to court was because

the guy had not even done his mouth with mouthwash, and he infected the child with some disease

that transferred from the circumcision. It came out in a court case in New York City.

So listen, these people are not normal. Alright?

What we consider normal, they're not.

Alright?

So, anyway, that's just

heck of a way to start the show this morning, but I just saw it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Over and over and over again. Radio.

Yeah. They walk out, you know, and here's the guys. They all scatter. They diffuse real quick, and he walks a little bit more. And here's,

I guess it's supposed to be the red heifer or some sort of

sacrifice.

These people are just weird. Okay?

And it seems to be all you wanna give them a little bit of a benefit of it now. Well, the Orthodox aren't as bad, but they're weird too.

K?

So, anyway, well, good morning. I don't know. That's a hell of a way to start your Monday.

I guess we'll be expecting mister Casara belong here.

We hope he shows up. He's got a meeting,

some kind of marketing thing before our show, which is pretty early

for the Left Coast anyway. I've I've got something to share.

Alright. Well, good. Is it does it equal at any way, shape, or form my,

circumcision or burning deer story?

Well, no. It doesn't equal it, but it's disgusting for entirely different reasons. Oh, you're gonna just start us off total. Okay? Go ahead. Well, okay.

I had been hearing a lot about this TV this TV series called The Rookie.

And, you know, I've seen YouTube shorts on, like, snippets and clips of it. And,

it,

and it looked interesting.

So,

I was channel surfing the other day,

and I came across the rookie in my channel lineup, so I decided to watch an episode.

Well, in this particular episode of the rookie, it is, season four episode

eight. In this particular episode of The Rookie,

they have a story line that,

revolves around a sovereign citizen

who the cops were trying

to,

talk to because

he assaulted

an IRS officer,

an IRS agent that was trying to foreclose on his home.

And through the course of the storyline, it is brought out that, okay, he's a sovereign citizen. Now now that they talked to him originally through his front door, and everything the guy was saying was absolutely spot on, corporate government,

bankruptcy, 1933.

No real money.

IRS, no authority

except by consent.

I mean, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The guy went right down the line. This this supposed crazy sovereign citizen

was talking about

all of the things that we know are absolute fact

and provable fact.

And

during the course of the program,

they labeled him the sovereign citizen.

He,

the situation where the cops were talking to him devolved into the guy ducking back into his house and grabbing a machine gun and trying to spray the cops in the front yard.

And then he runs out the back door and escapes in a vehicle.

Later, it's determined that he hasn't registered a vehicle or renewed his driver's license in, like, four years

since he ran into this sovereign citizen group and became radicalized,

they called it.

And he had a motor home that was,

parked underneath,

a bridge,

and the motor home was basically an arsenal,

with machine guns and

explosive devices and everything else.

And

just they spent an entire episode of the rookie

demonizing

anybody that is anti government,

demonizing

them, painting them as whack jobs and absolutely

unstable

and

murdering,

homicidal

maniacs.

They even, shared they interviewed his ex wife or his ex girlfriend,

and she said,

I haven't seen him since,

he found out I was seeing a guy and,

was forcing me to play Russian roulette. And by the time,

the trigger clicked three times that my neighbor

had come in and and rescued me. Painted this guy as an absolute

freaking whack job.

Now Wow.

Not only are we dealing with

the indoctrinated,

police and legislators

and

the courts

and the judiciary

in general,

they are absolutely

flooding the court of public opinion

against this message,

not necessarily

this entire message, but

the whole sovereign citizen thing.

Sure. Of course. Yeah.

Yeah.

That that was disgusting. But

I have come across another

series.

It's called The Blacklist,

and you can get it on Netflix.

And

over the course, I've watched,

one the first season and the first four episodes of season two.

And, during the period of time, they have,

talked about,

corruption in international finance,

how

how the mafia, the mob, and,

just terrorist organizations

hide their money

in banks that are outside The US jurisdiction.

They talked about child trafficking.

And the most recent episode, season two episode four, talked about

a,

government black

project,

that was called something seven

that was an outgrowth

of

MK Ultra.

And,

they

when the FBI was trying to find out more information on this group, they went to a senator

who said, oh, yeah. We know all about that. We'll give you all the information you need to know about it. Everything that the guy delivered to them was redacted.

Everything.

Okay?

So it's linking the US government

and

the senators,

people in power in Washington to the deepest, most heinous levels of corruption

in the different in the different episodes that they've done.

So I'm gonna give, you know, like Siskel and Ebert, I'm gonna give The Blacklist

both thumbs up,

and I am going to give the rookie

both thumbs down.

I mean, I would even boycott the entire ABC network because it was an ABC network. Well, that's a

I'd yeah. That's probably a good idea.

Oh, but Yeah. I The black Well, they're The Blacklist was an NBC

program,

and they're on, like,

ten seasons. I don't know if it's still on, but I believe all of the seasons are available on Netflix.

It's,

it's kinda some of the episodes are kinda disturbing

because

it it,

it outlines

the very depth of evil

that

some,

and I'm gonna call them people for lack of a better word, are capable of.

But it does bring those those heinous acts and the government's

involvement in it,

either in supporting it, funding it, or hiding it,

it brings that to light. So like I said, I give The Blacklist two thumbs up.

Okay. Do you know where NBC came from, Paul?

National Broadcasting Corporation?

Yes.

No.

You ever heard of a guy named Sarnoff?

Sarnoff? No.

No?

No. He was a young man.

Well, it could be. He was a young man,

in New York when the

Titanic hit the iceberg.

Mhmm. And realizing early the gravity of the situation, he really hustled around and

spread newspapers around or something. Got a lot of notoriety for it. And,

he ended up starting,

the,

company

we know as RCA,

Record Company of America. I remember his master's voice with a little Yeah. Phonograph with the big thing. And do you know the, do you know the name of that dog? There's a dog there, always. That's a good trivia thing. You know the name of the RCA dog

No. Which is a rhetorical question because I'm sure you don't. Probably nobody in the audience. His name is Nipper, by the way. Nipper. And so, they went on to, do the phonograph record and all that stuff, and he's the one that's founded NBC.

Cool. And, when they founded NBC,

they had two different networks. They had a red network and a blue network.

And the only way that with separate programming, and the only way that they could identify it was the engineers

at whatever the

end station was. It was broadcasting.

The feed

would either attach a red coated wire or a blue coated wire, and that's how they knew which network they were on.

And later on, he sold the blue network,

and that became it was bought by a guy that owned I don't remember his name right off the bat,

but he owned the Lifesaver

candy company

out of Chicago,

and, that became ABC. So that's where two the the other network, CBS,

was founded by a guy named Bill Paley, big, counsel on foreign relations, you know, guy.

And that's the three networks right there where they came from. So, anyway, just a little broadcast history here on Monday morning.

Mister Sarnoff. Mister Sarnoff's

famous,

line was, I don't have ulcers.

I give

them. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Well, I've got I've got Mister. I've got one more quick point to make about the rookie.

It seems to me from what I've seen in the show that,

its purpose is

to exalt the cops,

to provide justification

for actions that the cops take that may be,

that may be extreme,

and also,

fearmongering,

to make the public fear the cops.

Well, they want when somebody one of our guys goes to talk to somebody, oh, yeah. I saw that on the rookie the other day. Boy, that's a bunch of crap. That's what they're trying to do there.

Just just interactions in general.

Just interactions in general, you know, like,

anyone that would violate the law Seville,

the just Seville,

and the bad things that happened to them.

So

Okay.

It's it's still their crap.

Well, this shows that that and these bluff letters are about the best response they've got for us.

So that, goes back and it

lays the burden on your shoulder, the new person wanting to escape,

Jewish slavery,

to know your facts where you can be able to at least come back in those situations with some kind of facts as a retort.

So, yeah, they're, they're concerned about it and things like that show you the amount of concern. They can't get up and wail on it on the news,

because it just draws too many people's attention there that might not want to follow their bull crap lead.

But,

but, yeah,

they got every reason to be concerned.

They're pushing the the,

I just saw them again on Harrison this morning

when one of the clashes out there, UCLA,

between the, Palestinian supporters and the Zionists.

And Trump has, unfortunately,

charged UCLA a billion dollars fine or something,

for antisemitic

actions, and they show the,

the altercation

there. And there's clearly Chew's beating up the other students with PVC

pipe or something.

So, you know, more of this just keeps growing. It keeps growing. They try and deny it, and more and more people come over to our side. So it's just

a matter of incremental,

advancement. That's what I say. We take one baby step at a time. And, of course, the program here for the next,

well, as long as we're on the air, but, specifically,

you know, we we're here for new people with questions. They wanna escape this.

And everybody

is,

not everybody, but a large majority of people are very

skeptical, and some of them are just downright scared.

And you can understand why, and

we gotta try and get around if you're dealing with those people if you can.

Plant the best seed you can and and

let them simmer with it. If it doesn't sprout with them, I guess they're not supposed to know.

That's the conclusion I've come to over all these years.

That that's why I keep saying I don't chase people. I just don't chase people with this. You wanna plant those seeds firmly and maybe water them a little bit, see if they'll germinate, but

you don't wanna drag people to this kicking and screaming. That's not the way to do it. K?

You will end up in the relationship in some instances, and it's

there there's really nothing positive that comes out of it. Even if you could get them to do this, they're never gonna study and learn the information.

It's just like when you pay somebody to do this for you. You're never gonna study and learn the information most likely.

And that's where this that's where the secret is, is learning and internalizing

the information.

That's when you can be a belligerent claimant.

That's when you start to get re empowered. And see, it doesn't work anyway, but that way, boy, it's taken me a number of years to really realize that, but

that's why you, easier to pull a rope than push a rope. You put things that are titillating and entice people and show them something of contradictions.

You know, it's what what did Ian Rand say? There are no such thing as contradictions.

There are there are no such thing as contradictions.

K? So you try and put those in front of them and see if you got somebody there. But, anyway, the show's for folks with questions. Sounds like somebody's got a microphone open there. Have a good morning.

Hello, Roger?

Yes. Yeah.

It's Rick. Right?

Yeah. Just a footnote,

David Sarnoff

was put in charge of military

US military propaganda in World War two and then given the rank of brigadier.

Oh, yeah. Oh, they praise him in one way and the other.

And, yeah. He's, quite an individual, mister Sarnoff. We used to teach about him in,

when I was teaching broadcasting there at the Art Institute of Atlanta.

Fascinating guy. Anyway, little broadcast history is fantastic if you get into it. There's a lot of, very interesting things. Of course, War of the Worlds.

You say I I and I tell people you can't lie on radio. Generally, you can.

HG Wells did a pretty good job of it. The fact that some of you may not know about this, and speaking of New Jersey earlier,

they took HG Wells and peep he got on the radio. Surprise broadcast. Just interrupt normal programming.

And on a well, I don't know what night it was

over the week. But, anyway, got on there and did the War of the Worlds thing, and there were actually people that jumped out of windows of buildings,

because they thought that was wasn't real.

That was Wells' book, but it was,

somebody else reading.

Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I know. I can't remember who did it, but, yeah, it was it was Yeah. But or or or or, Orson Welles?

Orson Welles. There you go. Orson Welles. Well, you can see where I get those two confused.

Anyway, so that's, a titillating broadcast history. Of course, what every

broadcaster

since the beginning

of broadcasting

has

is craving is programming.

What I've got this monster here that can reach all these people. What do I put on it? And so programming's always been a big deal.

And, then somebody invented,

commercials, and

here we are.

But it's a wonderful medium,

broadcasting. Absolutely

big part of my life.

I hope getting free is a big part of your life potentially. So,

we've had, Todd and his, group

on for about the last week and a half or so, ten days, whatever.

So, we welcome them. And if any of you guys have questions or comments or whatever, we just hit star six and say, hey, Roger,

and we'll roll on to whatever you'd like to cover.

And probably

more so Roger. Well, there you go right there. Is that Gigi there?

No. It's Mary.

Hi, Mary. How are you?

Second time we've spoken. How are you this morning?

Yeah.

Oh, I'm good. And how are you this morning? Well, I've had better mornings, but it's alright.

It's Monday.

Yeah. I know. I know. You know? Just I could've slept two or three more hours this morning. The

our weather, which is somewhat normally predictable, is, like, flat unpredictable this year. It's cold this morning. Oh, it's it's bad here. It's hot.

It is so hot. We're like my we should be. See, and we're not this year. And I don't it hadn't we've had a couple of days of it, but not that consistent

normal,

kind of they call it the dry season. But anyway, so that's,

a little bit cloudy season.

With the weather.

Well, I guess it could be. I don't know what's going on.

You know, but it's not we're not normal. Right. I from what I've

experienced

being here a few years and then what the old timers tell me. So how can we help you this morning, Mary? Comment real

well, I had a comment real quick about The Blacklist, that TV show that was on NBC.

Yeah. That definitely I watched that years and years ago because it came out, I wanna say,

02/2009,

02/2010.

That's when it came that's how long ago it came out.

Okay.

I watched the whole entire season.

It really dropped some

nasty stuff. Now the rookie, I have not seen. I've read about it, but I don't watch TV anymore. So Yeah. I don't really pay attention to that stuff because I've been studying this stuff because I want out. I definitely want out. I'm I'm done.

Yep.

I understand.

Well, how are you coming are you how are you coming along with that exit? Well, I got my letter drafted. I mean, it's it's it's it's right. I just have to go to my niece's house to be able to,

print everything out because my printer is ancient.

And then we just went through Todd,

in in the group. We just went through, you know, how to how to properly address the envelopes. I'm going today

to the post office to buy my stamps.

Yes. The $1 stamps.

Yes. And then I'm gonna go from there.

Okay.

So far, no questions. We're trying to learn together.

We've talked about stamps, Mary. I don't talk I don't remember stamps.

That was last week.

Well, I I don't put I didn't I don't I never Yeah. Screwed up all the stamps last week.

Well, you could do either, you know, if I don't of course, I hadn't been in The States for many years.

But the post office may Well, I thought that you had to have the $1 stamps

for No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. You want would probably wanna send it certified

just to make sure. And this is one of the things, Mary,

that that involves is when you send it meant by the green those green cards purchased.

There you go. Now you're talking. That's what I meant to say. I said it wrong. I said it wrong. Awesome. Okay. Well, this is the reason.

There's several. Actually, one is because it does

give you tracking ability and it should give you that little return thing.

Sometimes the little return thing, he doesn't come back.

If you've ever been in a mail processing center, which I'm I m a I l, which I'm sure you haven't,

they're they process millions of pieces of mail a day.

Used to. It's probably diminished a little bit. But still, those single

return things can get stuck in magazines

or whatever. So if it doesn't come back, you just track it online.

Okay? And they'll

show you what happened there. The other reason is because when you do that,

the clerk has to stamp it.

You know? One of those stamps.

And the minute that stamp hits that envelope,

it's considered received

wherever you're sending

it.

Okay. That's another that's another reason. Well, we do have the

The United States,

postal, like, website so you can track it. Yes.

Your cart. Your rides. Yeah. Would it would it be who needed to to buy a few of them?

Well, you're probably gonna need a few more do one at a time. Well no. Well, you'll you'll probably want you just go grab they've got them there in the supplies. You can grab a handful, and then you can do all the dressing and stuff at home

and just take them a couple because you'll probably I would assume

you'll want to go ahead and use those certified. Don't do registered. Don't have to do registered.

Not the red one, the green one. Okay? Now Paul's trying to say something here for you, Mary. What do you what do you got for Mary, Paul? Yeah.

The blanks are available at the post office. You just go get some. You fill them out

before you go to the post office to mail your stuff.

But I would

talk to somebody at the post office and pay for it at the window because,

number one, when they stamp it, it's considered received.

And number two, and in the same in,

the same exchange,

you can get a certificate

of mailing

printout.

So you have not only the card, you have the tracking number, but you also have the printout that certifies that it was mailed on what time and day.

Yeah. That's good. Go to the window.

Thing. If you're gonna do a lot of mailing or she should you there's another thing called I think they call it a firm book. Yep. F I r book book.

And you can request that at the counter,

And it does something. You you register each mailing in the firm book or something. I don't know if they give you a reduced price or we've heard had people come on here and talk about it before, and I just don't remember all of the aspects of it. But you might could ask them, said, do you can I get a firm book and then have them explain to you what it does?

The thing with the firm book is not every post office has them. Not every post office will give you one. And a lot of people are gonna look like deer in the headlights when you ask them for one. So you have to check with multiple post offices.

Uh-huh. Marco, have you got some info on that?

Just, if she wants no. Not on the front book. Haven't used it yet. But,

on the certified mail, all you needed it for is for the secretary of state and the AG and everybody else can be first class.

Unless there's a special circumstance that you wanna make sure

that the the law enforcement

or someone that is that you're working on noticing,

you would use certified mail for them. But other than that, you can take some money by just you you doing first class for copies.

Of the other ones other than the AG and the secretary of state. There was a new twist that came up here

there was a new twist that came up here last week. I'd never even thought about it.

Especially the attorney general of your state

is to pay a process server to deliver that.

I don't know how much that would cost,

but just to emphasize,

it's getting delivered like a lawsuit

would be.

And that would if you've got the extra cash to do that, that would probably,

have a great impression on the attorney general, I would think.

A much greater

impression than just coming in the mail. But that's all those things are up to you. I'm not telling you to do that.

We've never even

heard about it till last week or so. So but I thought it's a very good idea for those of you who've got don't have the financial

challenges or whatever, you know, but that, I'm sorry. Hey, Roger. It's Todd. May I ask you?

Sure, Todd. Hey, man. Good morning.

Morning. Do you awake? What a beautiful Monday morning. Wherever you are, just remember, you're loved.

Anyways,

how are you today?

Well, as I told Mary, I've had better Mondays, but I'm alright.

How can we make it better?

I don't know. Just to see how it, how how it unfolds.

It started up when I get to my bed this morning. So, you know,

hungry to get free all because of you. So Well, that's good. Yeah. I got I like that. Yeah. Go ahead, sir. I like that a lot. Yeah. I wanted to add one thing, and I,

really important. It's on exactly this subject, and then I'll, digress.

And I know everything we say on here, we gotta be very careful. I'm not even gonna say this is, it's Dan Burrows is the only one I'm gonna say because it's true because I have I'm not just gonna say it. We have facts

of it being done.

So

so you know that you could certify mail,

and I can provide it in the in the chat, but there is a lawful and legal,

stamp, like a white

it's it's it's, something you put on the top right,

where you can mail anything even certified for free with these codes on it. So just so you know. And when you're sending out weaponized agent pages, like 80 of them, and you're certified mailing it, it's kinda nice to be able to do it for free. You know?

Yeah. Okay. I'll buy that.

I think that's a lot along the lines of the 2¢ post in that 2¢ postage and all that stuff too

incorporated in that. Well, no. It's absolutely free. Just free.

Okay.

Listen.

My suggestion, spend the money What does a weaponized page mean?

Those are the pages that you're gonna send

to, all the your local people that make them let them be on on notice that

you are a national and, and you're in the

you're in the pay you're you're with the Department of State and you're a national, you're letting them know. You're putting them on the morning. Right. You know, you're it's just a different world.

And and you want them to Oh, so whatever county I travel in.

May they want you wanna tell them to make the proper changes on your status and their records also. Your notification

page.

I I don't think weaponized pages would be a good thing to call them,

you know, because

of, like

I agree. No. Yeah. Well, here's what Todd's did. Bad move. I say when you notify your state people, you're weaponizing your position,

and I think Todd's carrying that over to the pages.

Technically, what you're doing is you're Yeah. Absolutely not combative, honorable with our pen.

Yeah. Well, you're you're letting people know where you live

that this has happened.

And like I said, the important part of that, we didn't used to do that. Okay?

Because we didn't really have thought it through at that point long enough. And there are a couple of incidents happened, and we said, well, we need to put these people on notice. That's why I say everything that we talk about here is

been thought through pretty pretty thoroughly,

at this point, I think.

And anyway, so what you're doing is you're letting them know your status has changed and,

you're doing the fulfilling the first part of due process notice. That's notice to them because

theoretically,

again, should they

receive this and then they come and do something that's,

still outside of their scope and purview,

then you've you can go after them personally. So that's another reason you're giving them notice.

We will specify that, but, that in the lurking in the background is part of the reason.

Roger.

Larry.

Good morning, Roger.

Hey.

I was wondering if this student

can explain how to mail documents for free

and if he's had personal success with it.

Are You sure you wanna get off to that area?

So about so what happened was about two years ago, I, I've been doing this for about ten years. About two years, this this thought I forgot everything through. Where's my bond? So about two years ago, a young lady I was working with, she was really, into all this.

Nobody really knew about what we're doing yet, which has gotta be the first step no matter what. But

that she had sent me. So I said, hey. I'm doing some tax forms. I gotta go buy some tax form,

some IRS paperwork and this and that. She go, you no. I think she's gonna tell me, hey. No. You can go on their site, and they'll send them to free. No. She went above that. She goes, I'm gonna send you them for free certified mail. And she goes, not only that. Take a look at the top right when you get them.

So I received a package of all the IRS forms that she provided in a red bag. It had a priority mail in the middle. On the top was her address,

in mine. And,

on the top right, she had the stickers, almost red and some of those black with some codes. And then, again, I'll provide that. And she paid nothing for that. And not only that,

a a couple weeks ago, one of our students, Tony, also,

has a stamp. It's almost the same. He also has proof of him actually,

sending it out. No problem. Free.

So I wouldn't say it on here if I if I wasn't positive because I could get in big trouble. So anyways.

Yeah. Padgett, one of our,

type a lionesses

from West Coast. We don't see her around too regularly anymore, but she's been doing that

2¢ mailing or stuff.

If you wanna do that,

fine. I

That's

I don't suggest if you want to go ahead. Yeah. Marco, go ahead.

It's just another rabbit hole that you have to go into and study.

And, yes, Padgett was

the one teaching or sharing information on it.

It it hers,

and there's some other students that know about it that it's like a 2¢

mailing.

So it's just something, and then you have to be careful

what you're using because,

you want to be honorable and responsible

with what you're doing. So stick to the regular

mail for now, and then dig into that,

rabbit hole later.

Focus on

what you're learning here as a, you know, private individual, national,

and learn the information.

You know, everybody that's new

needs to learn the information, not take information from other people and just run with it. You have to do your own research

and learn it for yourself.

So,

focus on what is

good, that we're using already, and

it's called weaponizing your affidavit.

That's what you're doing. It's just a term That's what the wording.

Yeah. It's just a term, a label I put on as we develop the concept. Okay?

Because that's what you're doing. And then When you when you do it with the secretary of state,

there's no weaponization.

You're saying I'm not part of you anymore.

But then you gotta go back and basically let the people that you live around that could affluence and affect you, let them know. And the reason you're letting them know is because potentially

if they violate

and step outside of their delegated responsibilities,

they become personally liable. That's something you need to let them know. That's why I said it's weaponizing

it. Okay? So that's where all the cases are at right there.

Right. So your, your affidavit goes out first, and what you're doing after that is

weaponizing your affidavit so that it is

everybody's informed. Everybody's noticed. They've been noticed. They're not informed. People. They they're not informed because they all know what they're they're dealing with, but they've been put on notice,

which means they need to get informed, new or should have known. If you got that position and you get this and you don't know about it, you've got a duty to know about it.

Right.

Exactly.

So if there's new people coming in and some of them leading other people,

you know, I would I would encourage them to sit back and learn the information with us, understand

what is happening, how we're doing it so it could stay effective. So no one's misled, no one is,

misinformed,

because we we do have a formula here that we follow, and we want you to be as effective as possible. And it works, and it's tried, and it's proven. Okay?

So, anyway, that's we all try and grow together, and we all try and be responsible.

We don't want something

that we could do to go back and validate what they put in this the rookie

thing. Okay?

And you've got to hold yourself to a little bit higher standard. Alright?

And as I've said, as I've come to realize over the years,

the only thing here that makes you free is you learning the information. The the it's as if

it's as if the affidavit is your, diploma when you graduate from college or something.

Yeah. That certifies it, but really underneath

you see the reason I do this for free

is because I don't want money. I don't want your money. I want peep I don't want people to have to scrape up whatever they might not have to come and be free

and me be beholden on that. I don't I want you to be free in your mind,

and the only way to do that is to learn the information.

I've had to learn it the hard way. Believe me. But that's where everything is. And the reason is because I don't charge you.

Is I say you're gonna pay.

You're gonna pay because you need to learn the information. That's how you're gonna pay me is to take the time, like Mary said, and she's not watching TV. She's studying, and she's getting this information in there. You don't have to know it as well as I do. You just have to know it where you within yourself,

you know that you've achieved a position where you can defend your position.

And when you've achieved that and you can be belligerent about it, that doesn't mean beating the guy or girl over the head with a baseball bat. It just means getting in their face and saying, no. You're wrong, and here's why. Bam.

Okay? And you shove that up their barracks bag.

So that's when we can possibly

collectively,

affect change.

That's what my goal is here. I wanna expose these sorry bastards

as the first guy that evidently has ever been able to bust them in this kind of a way where they can't get out. There's no wiggle room.

K? And I wanna change the world by maybe getting this yoke

off of our people's back.

Now very interesting.

Again, the last few days, I've heard several times

there's,

Trump wants to get rid of income tax. We talked about it briefly on Saturday.

He's taken,

the secretary of the treasury,

not and now his name, beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beepmer or whatever the hell is there.

I can't think of his name right now. Especially the

Bassett. Bassett. Thank you. Yeah. Bassett. Bassett's now not only the secretary of the treasury, he's the new, IRS commissioner.

And Trump is making,

statements or people in his administration

are about getting rid of the income tax. Now as glorious as that is, yeah, it's sad for me because over the years, they've always been my best recruiter.

So I hate to see that go, but I understand it must.

And, I see what's happened in the big picture is Trump is getting us back to a model where all of the debts are paid and,

are off of surplus,

off of tariffs from other countries. He's trying to switch us back to the previous way it was done before these monsters took over. And,

well, I guess you can't help but be all in favor of that. Don't know how it's gonna adjust us. I would think still even though you're not attached to the debt that people would want to relieve themselves

of being yoked to the federal system. We'll see.

But all those things are happening right now.

Okay? So I'll I'll get off my soapbox. Any of you it started with Mary's comment about

sending off the notices to the in state folks. You're in Chicago, didn't you say, Mary? Or in Illinois?

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm in Illinois.

Born in Chicago. But I had a really quick question.

When when you talk about, like, the the taxes and the tariffs, but if you do a private trust and don't mix public with private because you can't,

isn't that basically helping get rid of the debt ceiling because you're not adding to that debt?

No. The adding to the debt is compound interest. Not only do they do what's called deficit spending,

you're getting you you get off into Kinesian economics

now. And that was the difference in Uh-huh.

Kenzie and Kenzie and Economics. Keynes, what

nobody ever knew who the little faggot was

until Versailles. And all of a sudden, he attained a worldwide spotlight because the Rothschilds,

he had a he lived next door to the Rothschilds, by the way. He's a screaming,

homosexual.

And, his whole deal was built on what he calls deficit spending,

which means underneath, they can elongate this

your your collateral, your future labor,

and spend today out of the future. And so and that drives, of course, there's a principle

involved with that, a principle amount that you borrow. But always on top of that, you got compound interest, usually at several levels.

And so

that is where the debt is,

is the compounding Okay. Upon compounding of of stuff that they borrowed out of the future.

So that that that's where this 37,000,000,000,000

or 38,000,000,000,000

that they say we owe. We'll see. That's the beauty of what we're doing. If we can continue

to push this and get a recognition

ceiling factor, in other words, a percentage of people that

that resonate,

well, now that's all based on fraud.

That's all based on us being in servitude.

So in essence,

the whole debt would go away because

fraud, as I'm sure you've learned, Mary,

vitiates

any contract. That means it nullifies any contract

from the beginning.

There's fraud used in any point of the contract.

It negates the whole thing. This whole thing's based on layers of fraud.

So that's a fraud. Yeah. I mean, just debt collection to Juliette collection alone.

Yes. So that's what you're selling your debt, selling your debt.

Sure. Well, how about just making a And then a debt collector comes after you or takes you to court or tries to sue you, which they tried to do to me.

And they actually served me

to appear in court. I used the United States Postal Service, sent it all off into Chicago because it was fraudulent because they served my daughter. She she's got the mind of a five year old.

So they I technically didn't get served. Then they mailed me a copy of the summons to appear in court. So I used that envelope

with the United States Postal Service, and and it went away because it was fraudulent what they did. Cool. Okay. Excellent.

Because I did not Hold on, Julie. Hold on, Mary. Julie's chomping at the bit to say something. Julie?

Yeah. I wanted to interject in here because I wanted to ask Mary,

when as soon as she came on and she was talking about,

her her notices and stuff that she was, gonna be sending.

The last time you were on the show, Mary, you said that you mailed a d s 82 in for renewal,

and they were and you were changing your your political status to a national, and they mailed it back to you and told you that you had to fill out a d s 11. Did you get that resolved or no?

That was, I don't think that was me because I had, I was just,

I'm just learning.

I mean, I've been learning this stuff, but I don't think that was me. Okay. So maybe it might've been I haven't done my letter. I mean, my letter

it might have been g g. Okay?

But let me tell you this. Now see, you bring up a very interesting topic,

and subject

and issue. Wait a minute, Roger.

Wait a minute, Roger. Just one second. Wait till you hear my nightmare story today. Of course, I went to the headquarters of the Passport Building today. I'll let you speak, but it was a a disaster. But I'll I'll let you go. Go ahead. I was just gonna say, I I had that query back when we first started this. Well, you're technically, you're a new legal person.

Okay?

So maybe you should go back and use the d s 11,

but

the warning box is in both the 11 and the 82.

Why would they put it in the 82

if when you were a new person, you had to go back to the 11?

That that that may be just whoever that was done to. That sounds like another shuck and jive.

And,

the important aspect to me

is why would the warning box be in both the d s 11 and the d s 82?

Because you're in the feudal system, and you can volunteer out at any time,

which means that even though you are a new person,

that you're still gonna continue on and show your change of status from a citizen of The United States to a national. So I I don't know.

I I wondered about that years ago, and then that warning box thing

was the one the the element that said, now let's just use the 82.

So go ahead, Julie. What else were you gonna say? Yep.

No. I was just gonna say I went in, and I had all my papers and everything in line. And, you know, they tell you to get there fifteen minutes early. You gotta get there an hour early. It's like a freaking cattle of herd going in these things and these and these Gestapo's

with marching orders telling you what to do as if you're like a one year old. Anyway,

they've been, you know, it's like three lines you gotta go through, they're out the door and,

and, you know, you get and they they check your paperwork as you go to where they're looking at it. Julie,

is this to get a passport at 08:00 in the morning? There's three lines out the door?

Yeah. It's awful. Yep. It's awful. Holy smoke. Better than you do the mail.

Just just just park just parking is just a nightmare too because, you know, you end up the the ceilings are so low and people park and it says leave your keys in the car and then they park in front of you. And it's like, why would you leave your keys in the car? Anybody from DC could come through the elevator and come here and take anything out. In DC,

where where I think this morning,

Trump is doing a public announcement they're gonna bring federal troops in to try and keep the crime down, and they tell you to leave your keys in the car?

Yep. In the colonial parking buildings. Yeah. Yep. So it's ridiculous. But make a long story short, the lady looks at my

paperwork, and I've got two attachments. I've got my affidavit of citizenship evidence, and then I've got another, they want you to attach a

a piece of paper if you go by, you know, to a list of all the names you've used in the past. So I test I test that. She starts flipping through my paperwork,

and then she says and then she takes the the page one and page two out. He goes she said, this and this and your passport are all you need. And I said, oh, no, no, no. I said I I said, I'm not only renewing my passport, I'm changing my I'm changing my political status to a national. And she says, are you an American Samoan?

And I just looked at her. I said, no. I'm not an American Samoa. I'm sorry. My, phone is beeping in the background only. I'm expecting important calls. So if I hang up suddenly, that that's why. I said, no. I'm changing it to the national.

So I get up to the

she just looks at me and she said, you can try that, she said, but,

we do we we do federal citizens and we do

Americans,

Samoans here.

She has me my paper back. And so I went ahead and attached and put my two, you know, my two attachments, my affidavit and my list of names, and I put it paper clip it back because she took it away. So then I get up to the window and I get up to the lady,

to get get it processed, and I said, I just wanna make sure that this gets processed as a national

and not as a federal citizen.

Well, the lady has no clue what I'm talking about. She looks at my affidavit. She goes, I have no clue what this is. And I said, may I please you see the supervisor? So the supervisor comes over and she says, this is gonna be processed as a federal citizen.

And and I told told her, I said, I look, I know you guys have endorsement,

numbers,

on your back screens back there,

with different, you know, statuses for different different,

codes for different statuses of people, whether you're a diplomat, whether you're a federal citizen, American, Samoan, or a national.

And, and she said

she said,

we don't have national. We have a federal citizen back there for for you.

And I and I I basically and she said, we have to do what what Congress tells us to do.

Text longer than

two.

Is that somebody talking in the background, please? Don't interrupt if you can.

Go ahead, Julie. There's Mike.

So they basically said that they had to she was processing me as a federal citizen. I asked to speak to the director and she goes, I'm the highest authority here right now. And I said, may I have your name? She goes, my name's Grace. I said, can I have your last name? She goes, no. We don't give out last name. That's it. Can I have your employee ID? She goes, no. She goes, it's my name's Grace.

And I said, well, can I have the director's name? And she says, no. She goes, I'll call the director and have the director call you.

Sure. Unbelievable.

I'll I'll be waiting by my phone.

That you know, one thing I'd say, I advise people to mail it in and not have to go through that.

But, yeah, this is the question. In that in that case, here's the question.

Is this affidavit

gonna be in my

personal folder attached to this application?

That's the question you wanna ask. Okay?

If they say yeah, it doesn't matter if they think you're an American Samoan

as long as that's in your

folder, which it's got and should be, I suggest you'd mail it in instead of go through all that crap, Julie.

Oh, I already did I already did everything. So the passport will be, here, in two days, and then what I'll do is I'll just do a information request. I'll just do a a privacy request and see

Right. Privacy. Request to find out. But I wanted to know if anybody on this call

has any specific codes that they look for when they get if anybody else has done this, privacy request and if they I mean, has Merica done a privacy request before? And if so, is there something special on the back that you should look for? They have something for her, Roger. Okay.

09

seems to be a number. You're not gonna find it on the passport.

If if you can find it, it might be on the passport card, but that isn't necessarily

a

in other words, say, we've had 77

on there, which is, diplomatic

at large.

We've had, another code. I can't remember what it meant. What matters here

is not what's on your passport.

It's that that paper is in your file.

That's the where the rubber meets the road. Period.

Right.

Like, Roger, remember I did my passport and I went to the post office.

And I had a similar

experience as Julie's.

This lady was so scared to add any extra paperwork because the state department didn't want them to add any more,

paperwork to the application.

And I well, you know, I knew that they wouldn't know, so I just said,

you know, this affidavit

I mean, this affidavit needs to go with my application,

and it's already on file with your superior

in the secretary of state office,

department of state.

So it needs to go. He's expecting it.

And she just got scared and and added the

attachment to the application

and send it out.

So

all they need to know and that you don't need to explain

to them that you are changing your status. It's none of their business. All you're doing is applying for your affidavit

and adding

your affidavit

as part of your application.

Right. And if they give you a hard time,

you

either you tell them, like, it's already on file

with the secretary your superior in the secretary of state office d o That's a good line. That's a good line, by the way. I already used that. I I used that today. I said this is already on file with the secretary of state, and I said a number two. All both of these attachments need to go along with the passport. I specifically

stated that. The only thing I didn't state,

were your exact words,

Roger, that it you know, the affidavit

needs to be in my folder. I but I basically indirectly stated that by by stating that these two attachments need go along with the passport,

and they are with the with my passport application because you are allowed to attach a a a document. I said it even says here on this line, attached it a different page pages if needed, and that was for the number of names I've used in the past. Yeah. I said there's two

pages, and even on that page that I had for the,

additional documents that I'm sure they're gonna keep,

the I said I I I titled it according to the passport, and I said, there are two attachments to the passport, and then I put number one,

affidavit of citizenship

evidence and said, number two,

additional list of names I've used in the past, and then I just wrote them right there. So even if they throw my affidavit of citizenship

evidence away, that page if they throw it away and they disregard it, that page alone with all the names I use has the fact that I attached that affidavit there, and that will be on them. You could So so what go you could go to the extent of writing exhibit a and exhibit b on those.

You don't wanna note them back to the app to the application because you don't want to deface the form. But that makes it look kind of official with exhibit a and exhibit b. You could point out to them in the oath where it says unless explanatory

statement is attached.

So in some instances, they want you to attach additional information,

such as all the names you've used

in your,

adult life there, Julie. And then you go also to the warning box

and say, it says I can attach documentations,

including affidavits,

right here

in your own institution. They weren't they weren't questioning

they weren't questioning that I had, two papers, but they were just questioning

the,

affidavit of evidence,

you know, evidence citizenship.

And I I said, look at on the application, it specifically says, attach additional

sheets if necessary or if needed. It says that specifically on the front of one, and then it says it on the warning statement. And I said, you're allowed to attach attachments

to the passport renewal. And and I and I said, these all need to go together, all all four of these pages. And folks, I'm telling you, for the new folks, this is very rare that these kind of

happen with the clerk, but sometimes they do. Not very often, really. But just in case this does happen to you, you you got your gun loaded a little bit. K?

They they have to refer you can refer the superior

in that office back to the secretary of state of DC

to ask questions if they're not aware of what what they're doing and and what we're talking about. They can ask questions there. But Mhmm. All you have to say, he's expecting it and just attach the affidavit to the application.

It's already on file with him. That's a very good approach, Marka,

that you came up with. This

is already on file.

I am just doing

in in putting it in to make sure the passport is complete with what's already on file. He's expecting this. That's a very good line.

Whoever And and Patrick did that a while ago too.

Okay. Marco Rubio on an episode.

Marco Rubio has instructed his pilots to land the plane so that he can see it when it's filed.

Right. Exactly.

Okay. Well, I'm sorry you had that problem, Julie.

We've had it both ways at that little station. Do you park? You didn't take the train in. Right?

No. Absolutely not. When it comes to something like this, I wanted to be, you know, right next to the building. I don't wanna be walking a mile,

one way or the other way. I just wanted to,

I just wanted, yeah, I just wanted to, drive and park and get in and get out. I thought I was under the impression that the passport office is right where you get off the train from what the other fellow that did this years ago told me. It it is. It it is. It's pretty close. It's not right off you get off the train, but it's it's very close. I mean, it's near my it's right near it's it's on the campus of my al alma mater, George Washington University.

So I see.

Okay. So but I just prefer to drive. K? Did you I thought it was there was because congress

congress is still out of session. They're still they're still on their summer,

three months break.

Right. And

Kids are out of school, so the traffic is

tolerable right now. Uh-huh. Yeah. The speaker of the house said he was gonna go back and spend the time in his district.

Do you see that?

Yeah. That probably means,

You know what his district

is? You know what his district is?

His district is Israel,

evidently, because that's where he Roger.

Yes. Lovely.

I heard that.

Yeah. Susan Yeah. For Julie.

Yeah. Go ahead. That's Dave.

Hi, Julie. So do you have a current passport book?

Yeah.

Okay. You're gonna you have to turn that in with it. Right? Yeah. They took it all right.

Okay. Well, all you gotta do is open it up to that that picture page where it says The United States Of America passport.

And then underneath on the left hand side, it says US citizen

forward slash

national. That's who you are. National. Point that to them. This is me. That's another good thing. For a reason. Right? If you if you if you're doing a renewal and you've got your previous passport, you could use that approach, and it's right there on the front page.

It's just these people I don't think mine's got I don't think You know, and you knew people. You'll find this out.

You had never much been exposed to this, but now that you are and you got your arms around it to some extent,

you will see national pop up all over the place when you're reading government documents. You just never saw it before.

Or whatever that's worth. Okay. Julie, you you got some more?

No. That's it. I just wanted to let you know my experience today, and I wanted to anybody had checked their had done a privacy request to see what came back.

My passport that I turned in to my recollection

never said,

national or

US citizen or national on the left hand side.

It's on that front page somewhere. It says US passports are only issued to US citizens slash nationals.

But I think that was pretty interesting

that the gal came back and asked you if you were American Samoan.

Oh, I see what it says. The secretary of state of The United States Of America hereby request all whom it may concern to permit the citizen slash national of The United States.

Yeah. But a national of The United States

is, it's still a federal is is a a national of The United States, I believe, is a,

is a is a I spoke to Larry about this last night for a long time. A national of The United States is a federal citizen.

Nope. Not not true. A US national maybe,

but not a national.

Well, let's say an American national. Let's use that. K? But you can see why

and for the new folks, see the the the the, Todd and his group,

we hadn't even been able to get around to the American Samoa status until

Saturday.

Something, because we're always talking about other stuff. But what they did

was when they back in nineteen o one,

they

they made a deal with Germany, and they let Germany have Samoa,

and they took American Samoa. Samoa's

about a 150

times bigger than American Samoa, which is just a little almond on on the map to the East

of Samoa. Well, even in nineteen o one, they left it as

a unincorporated

territory.

Now that shows you how far these people are thinking in advance.

That's at least forty years

before the nationality

act of 1940.

Okay? And this is prima facie evidence that they do that. Alright? So for all these years,

it's been an unincorporated

territory. It's the only unincorporated

territory

in the entire US system.

They leave it out there

by itself alone.

Now one thing that I've learned Roger. All these oh, please let me finish.

One thing I've learned over all these years

is when you get to an exception

like that in some situation,

this is the only one and the only time you look into it. There's some there's some important reason

that is there. Okay. Come yes, Rick.

All US territories are unincorporated.

All of them. I've I've been looking at this for months.

American Samoa is unorganized.

Okay. Unorganized,

unincorporated.

But so are Wake And Midway Islands, but I think they're uninhabited,

which is

why. Okay. Regardless, it's got a real

Yes.

I just wanted to mention that there are some

when I was moving from Maryland

to North Carolina,

I had already heard that there was some unincorporated,

I believe it's cities or towns, and my daughter at the time

was living in an unincorporated

town. Yes. So there are

so I just wanted to mention that. Thank you. But that's in the state, Robbie. That's not in the federal system.

And there are unincorporated

cities, and it will say as you drive through it, such and such unincorporated.

This is a territory of the federal government. They're not the same.

It

may say they don't have a charter. That's all that means. They don't have a government per se. Alright. Well, American Samoa is in a very unique position because they were able to keep their god given laws. Puerto Rico,

whether it's unincorporated

or not, is under the auspices of the federal government.

American Samoa

gets to have a representative in congress, but they can't vote.

And they've got real limitations

for their citizens,

noncitizen

nationals.

Specifically,

that's them.

And they're to to become

birthright citizens

I don't know. Did you born in Puerto Rico? Are you automatically a citizen of The United States? Right?

Yes.

Yes. Well, that's not the same way in American Samoa. They don't have that.

And so for them to become federal citizens,

they've got to naturalize. They gotta come move to The US and go through the naturalization

process

like everybody else is a foreigner.

But the reason they did all that

is so they could call them noncitizen

nationals

so they could fool

people like that clerk that Julie ran into this morning.

Because we've had that happen before even from our legal community and the patriot community for God's sakes. Dave's old friend, Ron Avery. Oh, yeah. Roger's wrong. It's American Samoa. Well, you you, mister Avery,

need to go do something.

But it ain't beyond the radio talking about law. Okay?

So anyway,

they did that so they could hide the national behind it. Look. Yeah. All you have to do is know these people a little bit. This is right in line with the way they think and do things.

It's always deception. Roger. Nothing but the guy at the county fair

with the three thimbles with the p going, which one's the p under? That's all that's happening here. Yes, Dave.

Right. Yes, sir. Thank you. So, Julie, back to that US,

US national.

So that passport book says very clearly and very large

bold letters,

The United States Of America

passport.

It doesn't say The United States passport.

Everything they do is The United States

except that.

And that national is hidden

behind

the US citizen. That's why they put that US citizen first

and then a forward slash natural. Nobody ever sees that. Nobody knows what what does that mean. Right? That's us, people.

For Todd and his folks, you're you're just seeing the extent

that these people have gone to to hide this.

Now that shows you right there prima facie evidence how important it is. When they go to these links to hide something, they never thought anybody had figured out, and by damned almost nobody ever did.

K? But we got So, Rodney, you still got that 3 zero 2 code is on the bottom of their gov page. I mean, why is it on the bottom and three 08 is above it? It's kinda funny.

So but here's what I'm saying. So technically,

we are

United States Of America nationals

according to that passport.

We found that in the statutes, American national. That works.

US National,

it I don't know. Could be either one. The for Todd and the group, though, this is we had about three days in a row, very contentious

programming over this issue

right here.

Is a US national a American Samoan

or is it a state citizen?

K? Now we know noncitizen national is American Samoa, and we know just national

is a state citizen. But what about this ambiguous

US citizen in the middle? So this is what Roger. I can't oh, please, Mark.

This is what I came up with

and

and con confronted the discussion that was going on.

It was back to using the passport.

Now we know that the passport application

has to go through the o m b check and be constitutional.

K?

And so in the oath there so if that's true,

then all three statuses have gotta be there, don't

they? Citizens of The United States,

national,

and noncitizen

national. If that document

adheres

to the OMB law and and stringent,

vetting of it to be constitutional,

then all three of those statuses have to be on that document.

So go to the oath

and it says,

I swear under penalty of perjury, I'm a citizen of The United States

or

parenthesis, a noncitizen

national.

Now there's two of the three.

Which one is The US national hiding behind?

The US citizen.

It's gotta be.

And if you go back and follow

definitions. If you follow the the way the thing unfolded,

and you we I don't think we brought this up to you guys before. It's very important. Supreme Court case, Todd. So one of the most important you never heard of and never heard anybody in the patriot community promote or talk about, and it's called Plessy versus Ferguson.

Are you familiar with Plessy at all, Todd?

I I I've read so many court cases. I would, I would,

digress. I would like to hear Okay. Plessy was in 1894.

It was out of New Orleans,

just like the slaughterhouse cases,

and,

they wanted to test the Jim Crow laws.

There's a liberal leaning newspaper. I don't remember the name of it. They had quite a reach all up the East Coast. They took in a

a donation. They asked for a donation drive so that they could have the funding to do this. They raised about $3,000,

quite some of money in those days, I guess.

Anyway, they, went out and found Plessy

to put him into this situation to test the Jim Crow laws. And I say they found him because he was nine tenths white

and only one tenth black.

And they came and they hired the detectives to arrest him.

They had the other newspapers there on the it was they took him to a

intrastate,

not inter,

intrastate

railroad,

only in the state of Louisiana.

And they took him to the train station, and they put him in the white only

railroad car. And then they came and arrested him

for a it's,

breaking segregation going in the white only car.

He's nine tenths white.

Then they get the guards to arrest him. They take and go the to to the Louisiana

low court on

the issue, and the judge rules against him. His name was Ferguson.

They enjoyed him in the case and took it up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court came back with the you know, they have the little thumbnail

descriptions,

and the thumbnail was equal

excuse me. I'm getting them I'm getting them mixed up now. Separate but equal.

Okay? So I ask you,

how can somebody

in that situation, how can you have black drinking fountains, white drinking fountains, black railroad cars, white railroad car? How can that be equal?

Good question.

Babe Roger.

Hold on, Myrka, please.

Okay.

Thanks. Both

had a political

status.

They both had rights and duties.

One was black predominantly

because it was

mainly written at least auspices for the black slaves.

All they did was take the black slaves off the southern plantation

and put them on the federal plantation.

They were still in a condition of servitude.

But they play it as a color difference.

And, really, when you go back and read all those old cases, slaughterhouse and all those, they all take this bent. But if you really analyze it,

the fourteenth amendment and Jim Crow laws

were they both had a political status.

They both received rights and no duties, albeit separate.

Whitey was the all state citizen.

Jim Crow was the new federal system, predominantly black slaves.

So they had that clear cut,

difference there

all the way up, and they only undid that in 1954,

Todd and group.

And they did that with a case called Brown versus Board of Education.

And they set up this whole busing scheme and that whole they knew it to get everybody's

tail in a knot

and set that controversy up so they could carry it to the Supreme Court and overturn Plessy.

And so the Brown versus Board of Education

thumb

not thumb scale

is equal in the classroom, equal in the society.

Now they could have just as simply done the inversion of that, the dialectic,

and equal in the white country club, equal in the society.

But what they, in essence, did with that

is overcame

Plessy

and made

both statuses

equal?

So, Todd, you've done a lot of study.

Maybe you can help me here. I'm a little bit confused.

How can somebody with god given rights and duties

be equal to somebody with civil rights and duties under the federal government? How can those be equal? I I'm still waiting for somebody to explain that one to me because there's gotta be some Roger, ask the plants or they can't.

There there's gotta be some damn torture league legal reasoning there.

K. Now here, let me finish it up. I'm gonna button it up for you.

Who handled the case

of of Brown versus Board of Education for the NAACP?

Do you have any idea, Todd?

No, Rodney.

It was Thurgood Marshall

who was then appointed

to the Supreme Court

for being such a loyal servant.

Now when I first

started understanding this,

six, seven years ago, eight years ago, something,

I didn't think it was this way at first. But then as I came to understand this and think it through,

and it kept hitting me, what's 1954,

1954.

Something important happened in 1954.

And then it hit me, and I went and checked it out

sixty days to the day

to the

day after they,

they got that ruling on Brown,

they put the 1954

Internal Revenue Code in place. It's been there ever since.

So the whole thing that started first, at least in the last century,

was the sixteenth amendment

in 1913.

A tax amendment set up the taxing system, and then the very last thing they did after they completed everything

was to put the nineteen fifty four revenue code in place.

So you

that this is the importance of the tax system. It was the first, and it was the last.

So just a little side. Now, Merica.

I was trying to unmute. Okay. Yeah. I'm here.

So I was just gonna share,

you know how the organic statues at large and the US code is connected to it, And they have

the definitions that travelstate.gov

use.

In their definitions,

it tells you who are The United States

persons

and who is the sovereign,

the person under the sovereign

state. 21 goes into

and shows that the term national

means a person

owing permanent allegiance to a small s state. That's us.

Then there's number 22

where they start off with

the term national

of The United States means, a,

a citizen of The United States or, b,

a person who, though, is not a citizen of The United States, owes permanent allegiance

to The United States. So they separate the two by using The United States in one,

and the other the first one, twenty one, has a lower estate.

Thank you very much, Mark. Larry and I went over this last night, and that's why I was trying to say that a national of The United States is not Yep. It's not fine. Well, you know, listen here. Let's just get the because, man, we argued about this and he did it points for three days. And the bottom line is it doesn't make any difference. Just use national.

Right. American agriculture,

you know Then there's no ambiguity. Exactly. But I think

that that a US national as it says in that policy statement,

certificate of non citizen nationality

according to the INA,

comma,

all, a l l a l l all,

US citizens are US

nationals.

But Right. They only a few people are nationals without being citizens. In that line,

that's the American Samoans.

So they identify

them as the same in that policy document.

Don't you know, I I would suggest you don't get your panties in a wad over this and that you just go use the word national. Then there's no ambiguity, no confusion,

no potential screw up.

And I don't think there's a screw up anyway. I think if you put US National in in your affidavit, they'd still accept it.

Right. Right. Roger,

the only thing that they do is confuse people just because they do not wanna say USA because they are not USA or US. I agree. The

the DOS

department

and Again. Any anything US. Look at the lengths they've gone through to hide this.

If you don't think this is important,

I suggest you think again.

They have gone to unbelievable

lengths to hide this national. And as colonel House said, he he didn't think anybody had ever figured out. If one or two did, they got plausible deniability.

Well, colonel House, what about 20 or 30,000,000 do? You still got plausible deniability after all these years, and we can look back and put our finger right on your slave and asses

and call a spade a spade?

Because that's what we're doing, and you don't deny it. They've never denied one of these affidavits, folks,

because they can't.

They can't deny it because it's not their choice.

It's your choice what settled laws you live under. And if they tried to even deny it, they're open tyrants.

Roger.

Larry.

Yes.

So what I think they're doing,

I propose this,

under the certificates of non citizenship

or non citizen nationality,

that that little phrase that you often quote,

all US nationals

or I'm sorry. All US citizens are US nationals. What I think they're doing

is they're using that as an introductory

phrase,

and they're take they're taking definition

22

a

and reversing it.

That's what they're doing with that little introductory phrase. That could be All US citizens are

of all of these are also these. That's how I take it.

And then they say that these other ones are different because

k? So in my mind, they're the same.

But the whole thing is,

you know, just go if you wanna knit quick, do all this, this, and that back and forth, go ahead. Just don't use US National. There's no ambiguity and no problem.

But here's here's the point. You can see how they try and confuse your thinking

on this one term, national.

The the little phrase that you often quote, that that's not part of the actual statutes

at large, and it's not a part

of the of the US code, which codified

the statutes at large

under 11 eight USC 11 o one,

definition twenty one and twenty two, which we often use.

So that little phrase All you're doing all you're doing here is you're taking the new people and and they don't know what the hell is going on. Okay? This is way of their pay grade. So what all you have to do is use national and there's no discussion, no explanation,

no confusion,

nothing.

Okay? Exactly. But let me just finish.

So all US citizens are US nationals. That's not part of the law. That's just that's just a sentence

in a paragraph.

The law In a policy

statement just underneath it. In a policy statement The law is actually

the the law is just actually under that statement. And if you look at 22

a,

it says,

all,

it says the term national of The United States includes all US citizens.

So all they're doing with that little phrase,

above the actual law, is they're reversing it. They're saying all US citizens are US nationals Okay. Which is the same as saying that

the a national of The United States includes all US citizens.

They're doing it on purpose to confuse people. Of course, it's in the whole thing's built to confuse. But what they're doing right there is we're both. They're only one.

American Samoans are only nationals.

Whatever they put before it.

I propose we're not any we don't have anything to do with US being connected to that term national. Okay.

Well, see, these are these fine points. Can I ask a quick question?

Oh,

yes. Yes. An American what is a Samoan? I've never heard that.

How you do?

Alright. A Samoan because I was explaining a minute ago.

Yeah. Yeah. Should not

Go go I would get a an email.

Could somebody please mute off there? Thank you.

As I was explaining, was that Terry? Whoever the female was there.

American Samoa

is a small little isle

island in the No. Pashendorf is the last one.

Could could we figure out Paul who's saying Right. Talking into the mic there and get that

muted.

To the lady that asked the question.

That's what I said. I hadn't even been able to bring this up with you guys until Saturday at the end of the show or something. It's very important.

Because when you read on the passport application, I gear I, under penalty perjury swear that I'm a citizen of The United States or noncitizen

national.

Now that and I thought even when the book was published that that was us, but it's not.

What they did was they set there's two islands on the other side of the Pacific.

One is called Samoa.

It's a big island. And The US and Germany,

around the turn of the last century,

that was one German territory of possession they had. They didn't have a whole bunch like the other countries did.

But Samoa was the one they thought.

And the Americans and the Germans, they didn't fight a war over. They just decided they'd give Samoa to the Germans,

and they took American Samoa, which is just to the east. And I suggest you go look at this on a map, you know, put American Samoa in. You'll see the big islands to the west. It's a little almond shaped island.

And, it's always been it was in it was brought into the system in nineteen o one,

and it has always been an unincorporated

or unorganized

or it's different from almost all the other islands. K?

And as it is today, it's unique in the entire federal

territory.

I thought it was unincorporated.

Rick says all these islands are unincorporated.

That's not what I've read in the past, but it's different. Let's just say it's different. Okay?

Because their people

aren't citizens of The United States

at birth.

They're only

American Samoans,

which are called noncitizen

nationals

because

they're not a citizen of The United States at birth.

They are

and and they own all their own land over there. Whoever owns the most land runs the island's government.

We had one of their relatives on the show here.

Eat eat what was his name, Myrka? Atutu?

I can't remember his name. Tituli.

Tituli.

Yeah. Tituli. Tituli.

Yeah. Tituli. Yeah. Tituli.

And his family are the next to run American Samoa.

And so,

they are born with all their natural rights. If you commit an abortion

on American Samoa, they can convict you of murder. K?

So that's the separation they put there, but they're not federal citizens.

A bunch of them have moved to the states,

notably

Utah.

So I'm sure that the Mormons did a really good job down there.

And they come to Utah and move to Salt Lake City,

and if they did a civil service job, there's a ceiling they hit. They can't go above it. If they wanna join the military, they can't be officers.

There's all kinds of limitations on them

because they're not

citizens of The United States.

You see, we're both.

We can switch back and forth if we want to. They can't.

They're only nationals.

And if they wanna get the goodies,

they've got to naturalize like any other foreigner.

K? So that's the separation, and I maintain

what they did was set this up

so that they could hide the term national where we're both

behind it. And c confuse?

You're in confusion here about this today? Well, yeah. Okay. And so that they could confuse

and they could also obfuscate

the status.

Just like the lady that told Julie, oh, are you American Samoan this morning at the passport office?

Or,

the, idiot Ron Avery over on RBN, sorry, Tom,

who who had me on his show,

lied to me, and

was totally unhonorable.

And then he comes back and tells his audience, oh, Roger's wrong. Those are American Samoans or nationals.

So some dumbass like Ron Avery or some uneducated

person like the clerk at the passport office

could be deceived.

Deceived. It's just deception.

So did that answer your question?

Ma'am?

Hey, Roger. Can I read that can I read that code for you? So can I read what you're read the code that you're talking about? Yes, please. But I oh, man. I hate going into codes here. When you're ready. For the gal that No. No. Just the 302 where it talks about the Maranon Islands.

Okay. But When you're ready. Wanted to ask her if I would the explanation I gave her was sufficient.

Ma'am?

Yes. It was very sufficient. This is Mary. Okay. It was very sufficient. I was helping my my daughter get into the vehicle, so I I can't do I couldn't listen. Oh, it was very missed the whole thing. Oh.

Yeah.

And Alright. Yeah. Getting her on the vehicle is not easy. I'm sure it's not. I'm sorry. Yeah. No. That answered very clearly because I didn't I didn't understand at all because I missed that whole section of the nineteen o one nineteen o two when they did that. Wow. Thank you very much. I mean, what what it shows you, it shows you how far they think ahead because they were already planning and hiding it there in nineteen o one. They had to have been to have done this

when they really actually

actually didn't change it till 1940. So they're looking at least forty years ahead.

At least.

Todd? Hey, Roger.

Todd. Todd has something. Roger.

Roger. Roger. Todd,

did you have something to re want to read?

Just wanted to read this real quick. Take me one second. Section, three zero two. Put it in the comments, though. It's, their own government website.

Kinda funny that 302 is on the bottom,

under 308 and all that, but that's a story for another day. So section three zero two of public law 94 dash two forty one. Any person who becomes a citizen of The United States solely by virtue

of the provisions in section three zero one applying to those born in or residing in the Northern Mariner Islands

may within six months after the effective date of that section. Yeah.

Yeah. Or within six months after reaching the age of 18 years, whichever date is later. And then after that, y'all can read, and that's the good part where they tell you what to do. That's the one sentence. Well, that's the one sentence affidavit right there. And

I call what you just read fluff because,

yeah, Northern Mariana Islands

must have been at some point in the same capacity

as American Samoa. That's the only way that fits. Okay? But the important part about that whole thing

is that that one sentence shows you that all you have to do is rebut the presumption.

We're in the rebutting the presumption

game.

It's like you you go to a dance. The ugly girl over there you don't wanna dance with, you say, I don't wanna dance with you. Here's my paperwork.

And, and before she'd grab you and start dancing with you at like IRS or whoever.

Okay? And once you get dancing with them, it's really hard to get out of it. You're you're you're like stuck in the molasses

to Sami. Okay?

But you got to preempt it. The way to consistently

beat these people

every time

you preempt the presumption.

And that one sentence does that.

I suggest you use this the other affidavit we've got on as a sample

because it's even more explanatory

and and more to the point and it is no wiggle room.

But you use whichever one you want. But that's what that one sentence is and the important concept.

This is why I like to I like to I prefer to teach concepts, Todd. Because you get into all this minutia, what it says over here and this code and that code and the other, you you lose people. You teach concepts because it's easy.

All we're doing is rebutting the presumption.

It's easy to teach it. It's easy to learn it.

It's like using the picture puzzle with 16 pieces versus the one with 1,500.

Which one are you gonna put together first? I mean, come on.

So that's why I do it that way. As I say, there's a method to the madness for everything I do here.

K?

So now there's two or three other guys wanting to say something a minute ago. One of you stepped forward.

Hello, everybody.

Okay. Well, two of you at the same time. Who was the first one? Somebody talk.

Christian. Christian Hansen.

Okay, Christian. Go ahead, buddy. Hey.

You said something earlier about

getting confused to the newer people. I tell you what,

and then I hear all this, code, you know, and all this law coming in and you got,

you know, what we need to do to learn your your way of doing it. And a lot of people already know it. I don't I don't know it. I need to know what was the first step to do because I'm on on I'm on on on board with you.

And,

you know, I heard all the Samoan Samoan,

thing the other day. I heard the, thing about how you man, you described it just perfect about how

they're, getting us to pay the debt

and and putting our name on the debt and all that. But,

but I wanna know how to start your,

your, what's the first thing that I do to to start this out? Well, they didn't we we didn't used to do it this way. I'm sure you don't have any skeletons in your closet.

Okay?

But still No.

And that's what this was formulated for is people who have skeletons in their closet.

K? But on second evaluation,

do you think they can see enough of these pieces of paper

up there in DC

crossing their desks? I don't know if they can see enough of them.

So,

what we formulated

because of an incident now Gigi had the same thing. One of Todd's gals here, Gigi, had this

pretty much the same situation,

and this would alleviate that.

They they told they picked up some some frivolous charges from Gigi from some,

goofy policeman that charged her. And so when she went to pay her passport and order it, they said they couldn't send it to her because of these code of federal regulations

on these previous charges. If the you've got outstanding charges and stuff, they can not give you a passport

because then, potentially, you're a flight risk. Right?

K? Right. So that's what all this revolves around. So you gotta get into these long explanations, man.

Anyway,

so just do it. Get your app get your affidavit. Go get it notarized.

Depending on who's notarized it, you may wanna get two or three, four copies of the original. I don't know. Some people do. Some people don't.

It's up to you. But it's best if it's an affidavit because it reaches a higher threshold

because they can't rebut it and they can't respond. So it stands as truth

automatically. Okay.

So you go and get that done,

and then you,

get,

the address of the secretary of state's office, mister Rubio's

office up there in DC,

and you send it to him or his delegate.

K?

And you just very simple.

Yeah. On the front of the cover letter, you don't even have to put any of the legal law well, you could put legal lawful notice

up up in in well, no. You're initiating the action.

Just just a blank cover letter. They know what's going on. Okay?

Just the secretary of state and just say, please

find

enclosed

my citizenship

evidence

affidavit.

Now it's important, I think, that you use those exact words,

citizenship

evidence,

because internally,

you can track the progress of your passport.

And over it, they give you little messages when you're doing that.

And they that's what they call it internally at the state department.

Citizenship

Okay. Evidence.

I'm pretty sure

that the attorneys up there on the Seventh Floor at the secretary of state

know the correct definition

of citizenship

evidence.

Okay.

Alright? And just,

your time, please find the enclosed citizenship evidence affidavit.

Please adjust your records accordingly.

Let's see how please adjust

my status change in your records

accordingly.

Something like that.

And then thank you very much and sign it and go stick it in. I'd suggest you do a certified return receipt

simply,

because it just they'll have to stamp it at the counter.

And when they do that I understand. Now That one there. Yes. So now it's do it's,

considered received.

So that's the first step.

After that, the next do you already have a a passport, Christian?

Uh-huh. No. No. I no. I don't.

Either expired or open. You don't have one?

Yeah. I have one expired. I had one sometime ago. But How many how many years back? Do you if can you estimate?

Okay. 02/2001.

Okay. That that's over fifteen years. I think that's the limit

that you don't have to send it in. Do you still have it?

No. I don't know where in the world. I I could have it. So Then don't don't forget about it. There's a stipulation if it's over

if you've got one that's within fifteen years of being expired or open, they want you to include it with the application package.

Yours, obviously, is over fifteen years. Don't worry about it. K?

Okay. But,

but now the since you can't find it and you don't know the number, I you may have to go back to DS11,

Christian.

That's the initial one. DDAsInDogS

11?

Yeah. DSHyphen

11.

That's the initial first person,

application.

Now the only difference in that and a renewal

is that you'll have to go in front of an administrating

official to sign it.

If you've got one of those in the post office, that will suffice.

If you're out there in real, real,

real rare rural Texas,

you may have to go in front of one of your county judges.

They won't sign you won't you probably won't go in front of them. You'd hand it to the clerk.

They'd take it in that you'd sign in front of her, and they'd say bye bye. We'll take care of everything else. K? That's the way it's

That's the way it's happened previously.

Yeah. I I Julie, go ahead.

Yeah. I just wanna let him know that, in line today, you have got to have

a no a certified copy of your birth certificate. The lady in front of me was traveling tomorrow, and she didn't get her passport because all she had was a copy. They need a certified copy of your birth certificate. You gotta go to the vital records,

office of where you were born to get that.

And you will have to fill out a DS 11 because I just did this whole process. I filled out both

because of what one of the other

listeners said. I don't remember if it was Terry or Mary who said she filled out a d s,

82 and it was returned and she was told to fill out a d s 11 because she was, you know, she put an affidavit in there. So I filled out both just in case they told me that I I needed a d s 11 so I didn't have to make a second appointment and come back. And we know and we know you're gonna use a d s 11, Christian. And the only I was gonna tell you about the birth certificate. Julie

did that,

but,

you'll have to have one Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. Roger.

You can also you can just go to travel.state.gov,

and you can click on,

you can click on they offer you three options. You can download it and fill it by hand. You can do they have a PDF fillable form that's online,

so you can go ahead and do either one of those options to get the form. I yield.

Okay. Okay. So,

since you're having to do an 11, here's the only differences between it and an 82.

An 82, you don't have to go in front of an administrating official,

and you do have to have a certified original copy of your birth certificate. I went through this too in Argentina

when mine got stolen.

Okay?

Pain in the ass, but they require it.

And then,

even though I'd only had it two years, and I told the girl, I said, I just got this two years ago. You got it in your database. She says, oh, no. We get rid of those things. You lying bitch. You do not. You're required to keep that. Okay? There's and back then, it was in o eight or o nine.

And and and I it was during Obama years. I said, well well, hell, Obama doesn't have to have one, and I've got to have one.

And she said, yes. So I said, okay. What's anyway? And they ask you two questions

that they don't ask on the '82.

Were your parents citizens of The United States?

And if they didn't have an affidavit on file, which I'm sure they didn't put yes.

The one thing that you don't there's there's one thing you can do wrong,

not include your affidavit in the package.

Other than that, the other thing you'd never wanna do is lie on a passport form. They take it really serious.

K?

So that's what you don't want. That's what you do wanna do.

Yes, Larry.

Yeah. I'd like to, encourage Christian

that you really need to learn the,

the the laws and the codes

because

if you're ever challenged

by an administrative agency,

you can't just say to them, well,

I deal in concepts. I'm the there's there's only two statuses. You're free or you're a slave. I'm the free one. They're not they're gonna think you're nuts, like you're a sovereign citizen.

So you gotta learn these codes

out your status according to the codes, like you are definition 21

and not definition 22, and even even this, you're not you're not definition 20.

That's talking about,

a an an alien

permitted to work in United States, a green card holder.

So you got all four statuses there. Number 20 even calls it a status.

Okay. And 21 is our status, and 22 has two statuses.

It has

the US citizen, which is a,

and the noncitizen national American Samoan, which is 22 b.

That's the US national.

So you have to understand this because Julie went into the the passport office,

and she was like, when they were saying, oh, what are you, an American Samoan?

And she said no, and she attempted

to show them the the statutes at large and The United States code where the statutes at large is codified,

and they refuse to look at it. Both the agent and the supervisor would not even look at the very laws that are on the books. How do you like that?

Yes. I appreciate

that. Ahead. Christian, let me ask you. How old are you?

I'm I'm right there with you, brother. Same club. 76 years old. 76. And you live out in the on a ranch out in the middle of nowhere, Texas. Right?

Yeah. Small. Yeah. Small. Alright. Well, I I'd say learn the big pieces first. And if you wanna learn all that minutia shit later, you do it. But I'm totally disagree with Larry is that you you and you don't need that to defend it necessarily.

And in your particular situation,

how often do you run into a bureaucrat?

Quite often.

Do you? Okay.

Well, just Yeah. This this is what I what I well, this is what you might wanna do. Some people do this, just take your affidavit

and go get it plastic laminated

and carry it in your car with you. Uh-huh. So here's my affidavit. I'm gonna get it submitted to the secretary of state, buddy. I'm a national.

I don't care what the hell you say because this proves it. It's my choice. Boom.

You wanna fight out all the definitions

and stuff? Do it later in there if they're gonna come after you with paperwork,

which they'd prob more than likely won't ever. K? So, anyway, that's my suggestion. Larry is different.

If but just be able to defend yourself.

Okay.

That's wonderful.

Thank you so much. I've been listening and it just I really things were just really getting ricocheted

in my mind. So y'all you'd laid it out real real good for me there. Hey. And I'm gonna do that like the lady had so much trouble going to the passport place.

I'm gonna mail mail it mail for it like you said. No. You're not. You've got to have it signed in front of an administrative

official

at the hospital or the judge's clerk.

You Oh, that's the first time again? No. This is just signing the postal

application. You'll see it'll say warning.

Big big capital letters. Do not sign document

unless you're in front of an administrating official. Says that right on the passport.

Only for 11.

If you're gonna renew, you can do it yourself just like you wanted to do. But with this one Oh. You've got to go in front of an administrative official. Now why do they go through all that here?

Because they want you to be under the presumption

solidly.

And the only way you can get out from under it is to file some sort of a statement in this process right here.

K? So they don't want you to know you've got access to this. They've got it hidden all over the damn place.

Mirka. Roger. Okay.

Yeah. It could be as simple as this. And what was his name? I don't remember.

Was it Michael or

Christian? Okay.

So it when if they do give you a little hard time to say it's already on file with the secretary state and this needs to go Yeah. And just give them your affidavit. So you're gonna send them this one pager first. So if they do give you any crap, which I don't anticipate,

you could go, well, I've already sent it in. This is just confirming it and they're expecting it. Boom. That'd be good. Okay.

Alright.

Okay. You know, well, we'll be reach out to National Status Freedom if if he if he's on their app. Okay. Roger.

You can go to Marcus

Telegram channel.

Do you have Telegram on your phone and a computer, Christian? Probably or probably not.

Yeah. I do. Yes. I do. Okay. National National Status Freedom, three words, and you can join Merca's group over there. I think there's over 500 people in it now.

Otherwise, there's the whistler.

We got some other people that wanted to do something, but we're gonna have to,

check out of the regular broadcast stream here in two shakes of a lambsdale.

So we'll be back tomorrow. You so much. Oh, you're very welcome, Christian.

God, I love

Gotcha.

Oh, wait, Larry.

We'll be back tomorrow, k, hopefully, and good lord willing.

And so I hope you have a great day and all that kind of stuff.

Yes.

There was,

there was a problem with the archive for Thursday that has been fixed.

The after show for Thursday has not been uploaded yet, but

that will be done,

shortly. Hey, Roger. Have you heard anything, more from Anne Vandersteel?

I hadn't heard a peep out of that girl. I don't think I guess she just wanted to talk to me that one time. I mean, I like I think she likes,

communicating with Dave and Kaye better.

Well well I don't think and I keep checking, you know, on WhatsApp.

It shows you that the message is there, and it shows you if it's been viewed.

And she has not checked her WhatsApp in

ten days or more.

Wow.

She's got Telegram channels, but she's hadn't checked that. So no. I haven't, and we'll see you tomorrow.

Tuesday. Ciao. See you. Bye.

Okay. Hey, Larry. Better.

Please, folks. Larry.

It was before Larry. I was starting to get a meeting. Come play well, then, please, come on. Who who is it?

This is Carl. Paul, you tell. Okay, Carl. And then muffled. Go ahead. Said a comment.

You said a comment earlier about we could go in and out choosing if we wanna be a national or a US citizen.

Well, yeah.

Where is that?

Well, it's nowhere except it's in the feudal system. Everything's gotta be voluntary.

You were tricked into it the first time. You volunteered

out. If you, for whatever want reason, wanna go back, you could just reverse the process and tell them you wanna be a citizen of The United States and not a national.

Ten four. Okay.

It's gotta be able to go both ways.

Alright. This is voluntary.

Carl, Utah?

Yep.

Okay.

Well, come on in here. What you got? We did. That was his question.

That was my question. Larry's up next.

Yeah. Larry. Roger, you've told us over the years that we are educators

to our own public officials, to the judges, to the attorneys,

and to the public at large about this information. And it's one thing to understand the concepts which you you obviously need to do,

as you teach this information because just like a child,

you know,

that's, you know, growing

and being educated

about the world around them, they have to obviously learn concepts also. But as you grow any information,

you have to start learning, you know, some more difficult,

you

know, wording and and laws and things like that in order to defend yourself, and it's just very frustrating

that when you are confronted and challenged,

like in Julie's example, at the passport office,

and they they they're saying, so what are you trying to do? Are you trying to become an American Samoan? And Julie's like, no. I'm not trying to become an American Samoan. I'm trying to

get a passport

that that,

represents my national

status, and they're just totally clueless.

And so when you pull out the very laws that Congress

has put in place

to show them, to educate them, that this is what I am I'm definition 21 look at there's a definition 22 there's a definition 20 are you familiar with green card holders well that's definition 20 and over here in definition 22 are you familiar what what you just said American Samoan that's this one right here, 22 b. And then you got the US citizen, 22 a. Well, I'm wanting to be 21,

and they won't even look at the information,

and they're saying that they're following Congress.

Well, this is from Congress. Well, the clerk is the only way you're finding that information. You're not supposed to argue that point with that person. You say, you see this warning box?

I can attach anything I want here, and you let it go to the clerk who is gonna make that decision

that's highly trained in it as opposed to the person at the front desk. That's my answer to it. Yeah. Learning to really set the is to make this as simple as possible so we get the most damn people. You start throwing that at new students, and you're gonna lose a bunch of them.

That's my point. You don't need to sit there and explain yourself to them. Please shut up and let me finish?

You wanna learn that later down the line, that's fine. I don't put that in front of new people. I've learned over fifteen years that the easiest way to do this is to make it as simple as possible.

You start putting all that stuff on new people, and they're either not gonna do it or you've lost them or they're totally confused.

Please let the people take baby steps on it. Please.

Roger. Roger. Yes.

In case anybody hasn't mentioned it, aside from Merca's Telegram group,

of course, there's the nationalstatus.com,

which will walk you through it,

Christian and new students.

But maybe the most important is the matrixdocs.com.

There's a button that says new

students.

Click on it.

That's mostly just interviews,

interviews and exhibits

and, you know, information to explain the backstory that the new student section doesn't drill down into passport applications

or anything. National Well, there is a copy of the letter the affidavit.

Isn't there a suggested affidavit there?

Well, yeah. There's a suggested affidavit, but what we're talking about is the process of applying for a passport,

and nationalstatus.com

drills down into that deeper than the matrix stocks does.

Agree.

I just, folks, I try and make this what? K I s s. Keep it simple, stupid. It's already incredibly

complex.

As you've seen today,

digging into American Samoa and how this and where they hid that and how do they think and how do they do things. It's already incredibly

complex.

It's a simple concept,

but they've made it incredibly concept,

complex

and and confounding because it is. We're sitting here discussing that today, all these years later.

So my deal is to get you to the point

where you can make a decision

as to whether you wanna follow through on this. And if you do, like Christian did this morning, want instructions on how to proceed,

we'll try and be there for you every step of the way. That's the only way I know to do it. And I know if you start Larry, I understand you're at a high level and all that. And, yeah, if they wanna learn that down the line, that's fine. I don't have any problems with it. But trying to throw that in new students just isn't fair.

It's not fair, man. You're already throwing them a big enough bone.

My opinion.

K?

So

regardless.

Alright. Anybody else got

yes, sir, Larry.

Yes. So I wasn't necessarily,

you know, explaining that information to all the new students. I was applying it to these people that should know their jobs

at the passport office. Okay. We're there I mean, if they don't know the information Uh-huh. That they should know, we're there to educate them. And what's frustrating, like I said, is so Julie

said, okay. Well, let me show you

what the law says. You're you're talking about following Congress.

Let me show you. This is from Congress. And they refused to look at the law. They just said It's not their job. No. You're either a terrorist.

Their job is to follow instructions. You've got the instructions.

It says I can attach active

affidavits and documents

that this is all they need to know. They need to operate on that and judge the law.

That's not their job.

They don't have time to sit there and look at all that. They just you just need to tell them. It needs to go. Come on. They're DEI hires. Expecting

it. They're DEI

hires. You're throwing

high end,

complex,

meant to confuse laws at them, and you expect them to listen?

That's not even their job. I don't see how this is I don't see how this is I don't see how this is any different. If years down the road, if you don't learn this information and learn the laws that are on the books,

and then you're challenged and and you're not around, Roger, and maybe there's a there's students that aren't around other, you know, more seasoned students, and they're confronted with the IRS or some federal agency,

if they don't if they don't know these things,

they're they're not gonna be able to challenge them and educate the public officials

about the very things that they should know. They're just totally ignoring it.

You know, that's that's all I'm saying. The

these these passport people, instead of saying, you know, you got a supervisor, she's claiming to be the head over the entire

Washington, DC facility,

that she wouldn't even give her last name. I don't even think that's right.

Public officials, they have to identify themselves. She wouldn't give an at least an employee number or something. Every time I call the IRS,

you know what the first thing they do is they say, this is miss

miss so and so, and they they they,

you know, they

they mention this long, like, 12 digit employee number, and you're trying to trying to find a pen to mark it down. I mean, they identify themselves with some kind of number, So here you have a person named Grace

and we don't even know if if she's lying to us or what. She's the head of the entire department

and, and she doesn't know this information.

That's just bizarre.

Most people are going to mail

their paperwork in or have the post office do it, and they're not gonna can have this confrontation with,

obviously,

DEI hires in the passport division in DC. K?

And, Larry But if you get if if it's a couple of years down the road, if you get if you get a correspondence from the IRS

challenging,

you know, whatever whatever it is you send into them,

you better know what you're talking about. You better challenge personal jurisdiction,

and you better know how to do it. And

you better be able to explain to them that No. I am definition 21. That is a real status.

Here is And and, I think these things are important.

Okay. Raj, please.

Man, Larry, that's not that's not what we're talking about today. We're talking about passport applications

and just getting the,

the proper

paperwork

and application

in the hands of the passport

office agent

in their hands.

What they do with it after that, then it goes upstairs.

We don't care. We're not there to inform

the passport agents

of what their job is.

They have a they have an employee manual for that.

And anybody that's gonna get a letter from the IRS or may get a letter from the IRS a year or two down the road, they've got plenty of time to research what you're talking about. It was not germane to what we were talking about today.

All they have to do is return a copy of the affidavit. It says the fourteenth amendment says

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, not are subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Vatel's Law of Nations

says every man gets to make

his own

personal decision on his status. I can't quote it for the moment because I'm aggravated.

You you you know, if you wanna do it that way, Larry, and other people wanna do it, that's fine. But but I don't want the ordinary person just trying to get their arms around this

to to run up against that.

Capisce?

Baby steps.

Yeah. I understand. I'm watching.

Baby steps to the elevator.

Was that Wahid? Hey, Wahid.

Was that is that Wahid?

I need to

yeah. Can you check it's it's trigger warning trigger warning and,

that new IRA that new IRA and,

that new scan that you have to do to get on any social network

coming out on the thirteenth

of this month, I believe, or is it September?

That you have to to log in on any social network? How are we gonna get through to

Telegram and to you when this goes into effect?

I don't know why he

I don't know why you even think I would know. I don't even go to social networks myself,

so it ain't gonna affect me at all. You don't have to do that to get on here.

So I don't know, man. We'll have to figure that out along with the confusion, everybody else, I guess.

But that's a typical WAHEAP question, though. Thank you. Who else is trying to ask something there?

Nobody.

Hey, Roger?

Yes. Yes, ma'am.

This is Terry up in the great state of Maine, Maine State. Yes.

I have a question that's off this subject. So I'm just gonna put it out there that maybe tomorrow's show, if you don't already have an agenda,

that we could talk about the your concept of IRAs. I heard you mention it before.

Uh-huh. I don't have much of a concept of them. I've never had one. I intentionally

never got one. And the expert on it is John Kasarab,

who's normally with us on Mondays, but not this Monday.

So,

if you could maybe hold that or if you wanna pose it tomorrow, maybe somebody knows, but it's not my field of expertise.

John talks about rolling IRAs and four zero one k's and stuff into self

directed

IRAs.

So you get to decide where your money gets put and what you do with it.

Alright. You know, a a number of gold and silver dealers can take your pension depending on what it is and all the stipulations and roll it into,

where you've got gold and silver in there instead of

funds. Got Babble Bucks.

But they're you know, there's I'm doing that right this week. Okay. Good. Good on you.

Yep.

Okay. And then I just have one more comment. Yes, ma'am.

Some people were talking about the green cards not being returned from the post office, those signature returns.

And I asked my local post office about that because I did have one for

an affidavit that I sent to the court

and

asking that if it had not been returned, what do I do? And she said, well,

you get your refund for the purchase price of sending certified

signature return.

So the post office could

refund your money at the very least if that card never returns to you. Okay. Well, those little Rascals have gotten kinda expensive. How much are they now for certified? 4 or $5?

Oh, no. It's,

the last time I certified oh, that was my document that I sent in for my citizen

evidence.

Right. It was $11 and 30 some cents. Yikes. Really?

Gosh. It used to be about $2. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you don't get it back, that might be worth pursuing to get $11 back and just pester them a little bit. But you can always go online

and put that number in and they should be able to give you the status of it there. Sometimes, Terry gets caught in processing. It'll get, like, shoved into a magazine or something.

And it's not their fault that it got lost. Okay? But you can always fall back on the computer. Alright?

And besides, when you go back to our beginning principle,

they stamped it initially,

which means it's considered received because they have to stamp that

certified receipt thing twice, I think, one on each side.

Yes. Quick quick comment for her. Take your receipt from the post office, go to a notary, and ask for a certified copy

of that.

You wanna convert the thermal paper to, actual toner,

ink and toner because those are permanent.

Thermal paper fades.

You can also ask the, postal clerk

for a,

printout

of,

proof of delivery

or

sort of, certification of mailing.

You can have them print that out and then go back a week later when you haven't gotten your card yet and then get your refund. Because then you've got all of your proof that it was actually mailed and delivered. Right.

Wait longer than a week.

Well, I mean, this is after you've already waited a week or two or whatever.

I I guess you can get the the that stuff right away, and then just give it a give it, like, a month. If it don't come back in a month, then go get a refund.

That That'll be good. That's a fair amount. That's a great idea. Okay.

Mary, did you have anything else, sweetie? Or Terry. Excuse me.

Just that I'm excited that tomorrow, my document will be at the US Department of State. That's what my tracking says. Yes, ma'am. And tomorrow, they'll receive it.

Great. Cool. Well, we'll

you're already free, but we'll re congratulate you tomorrow.

Great. Thank you. You're welcome. Now who else? Was there a guy there?

Somebody wanna say something? Real quick.

Mary. This is Mary. Hi. Yes, Mary.

I know you touched on this. I'm gonna,

search and to see, but are are we are definitely allowed to have the flat green card as well as our our passport as well as our book if we choose.

Or

can we just have the passport card? You can order just the passport card for $30.

That's really unless you're gonna do international traveling,

and it sounds to me like you're probably not gonna be doing that, then $30 would be all you need to expend.

Yeah. Because I just went and looked in my face because I wanted to see where what my passport looks at. It's they're not there. My husband's passport's gone, and mine is gone. I have no idea where they went. I'm very upset.

Now I tear my house apart because they were there a month ago.

Wow. And I put them right back into the safe.

Okay. Well

All my other documents are there, birth certificates,

titles,

the pretend deed to my house, my warranty deed.

All of that's there, but the passports are gone. It's really weird. Well, I think if you're done, you have to file a well, oh, god. You don't wanna file a lost one,

but you may have to because they're gonna ask you, has it been stolen or lost?

And if you have to file a lost one, you have to go back to the D S 11 with

birth certificate and

and sign in front of an agent again.

So go look for him again. Maybe ask hubby if, if he took them or something.

But, if he Yeah. He moved them. I I don't see him doing that, though. Okay. Well, if he about keeping everything in the safe. Okay. Well, if you've gotta do a renewal, is it an open passport book still good?

It no. It expired.

I have until 2017 for my fifteen years. I got it in 02/2007.

Okay. Well,

if it if it needs to be required in in in your application to order just a card,

And if it's not, you might have to do a a stolen or lost

deal, and then you gotta go back to an 11. So go find,

or talk to hubby and find out what he did. Okay?

Okay. Thank you. Alright. You're welcome.

Comment.

Okay.

Either way, I would find that passport because you wanna know I I mean, that is such an important document,

and it is such a valuable,

form of ID,

that if the wrong person is using it, it can go very bad for you. I would find that passport

and I yesterday.

Yeah. Talk to hubby, I'd say, as quick as possible. Make sure it's not stolen.

Doesn't sound like it would could have been. It's probably just been misplaced,

but work on it, Mary.

Okay. Anybody else, please?

Okay. Well, then Roger, I got one thing quick just for for Terry.

Okay.

And then I'll say goodbye.

I tried to type this in the chat four times and I've been kicked out. I'm averaging nine times, a day getting kicked out. So I'll just have to say Of our chat. Just a bit if you wanna look up your trust, it's non statutory

and unincorporated.

That's all I can give you. Just look into pure trust.

Okay.

Wow.

Alright.

Well, I'm gonna see y'all tomorrow. Okay?

And, have a wonderful day, and we'll see if how the week started out. And,

Julie may be right

next to, federal troops. Julie, they said

I heard Harrison say,

they had 21 FBI agents on the streets last night at DC.

So they've already started this.

Wow.

K?

So, anyway, evidently, there's a lot of problems up there. I hadn't heard about it too much, but just glimmers, but it evidently is a pretty bad situation.

Alright. Well, I'll see you all tomorrow. We'll find out what happened. Hey, Roger. Thing. Yeah. Yes. Thank you, Roger. Bye.

Thank you. Oh, thanks, Morris.

I'll I'll see you tomorrow.

Thank you there,

mister sketch,

and I'll, see you tomorrow, hopefully.

Right. Ciao. For you, Roger.

Sayonara,

Raj?

Mhmm.

Paul, I have a question.

Okay.

For anyone,

does anyone know if if living in an unincorporated

city, town, whatever,

if there's any benefits to that? Can anybody answer that for me?

Unincorporated

townships.

They don't have You're under county jurisdiction,

not city jurisdiction.

Yeah. You're under county jurisdiction,

and they rarely have building codes.

And if they do have taxes,

it's a,

it's a reasonable tax,

like,

like a property in an unincorporated city, like,

acre, it might have between a 12 and $20

tax bill a year.

It's basically

to,

fund the volunteer fire department and things like that.

And those town and those villages,

townships

usually do, like,

all bean feeds whatever as,

fundraisers

that also helps to fund the government.

They're not a big government place to live.

Mostly, they stay out of your way, and they stay out of your hair and out of your business.

It's always good if you can find an unincorporated

village of sorts.

But, you know, with all the things and looking for property, look for,

the type of emergency services available,

how far away from you those emergency services would be.

Like, if the nearest volunteer fire station is thirty minutes away,

maybe you don't wanna live there.

You know,

proximity to schools, if that's important to you,

stores, retail establishments that you would frequent,

ease of, receiving packages and mail in general,

because mostly, unincorporated

villages and stuff like that. A lot of times they get mailed by rural route

and not by,

the way you would get mail in an in an incorporated city like in N Y,

13309.

I mean

A short answer is as long as you ain't got Buford and Cletus running it.

Right.

But but,

make no

mistake. Small small towns like that,

there are gonna be women that know all about your business, whether you tell them or not.

Okay?

The unincorporated

villages, the government kinda stays out of your business

because there really isn't

much of a government to speak of,

but your neighbors are gonna know all about you.

I'm just saying.

Yeah. But from a lot just women.

Just just

Oh, please. Says, I'm like, there are there are legal advantages, though. Thank you, Paul.

Yeah. Property values are typically lower.

Sorry. Property values are typically lower. Taxes

are drastically lower.

Services are not quite so convenient. You might have to drive 25 or 30 miles to get to a Walmart.

But there are there are benefits at home. I am looking for land, and I am looking for unincorporated

and undeveloped raw land.

And those places are few and far between nowadays.

So go ahead. Who was that? Said Paul Paul Paul Paul.

What? Paul, do you hear me?

Yeah. What?

I'm saying I've got all that, but I can't get to it. I got eight acres, and it's in the middle of most freaking where where

where I'm stuck in Los Angeles.

Okay.

Alright.

Well, thank you. Thank you for having me.

Situation.

This is Dwayne.

Yeah, Dwayne.

Hey.

I came in as right as Roger was answering that young lady's,

question about, I guess, her passport's misplaced she can't find.

I had

my passport card was stolen earlier at the like, in January,

and there's a form I filled out to let the passport office know it was stolen, and they immediately

canceled

the number that card and the number associated with it. And then I applied

for just for a first time renewal renewal. Yep. Our first time passport and

got it back. And that way,

I was covered in case anybody tried to use that passport card for whatever reason. Yeah. She definitely suggestion to that lady to cancel it if she can't find it another day or two. She definitely needs to try and find it as quickly as possible because, like I said,

that document is very, very a very important piece of identification.

And if somebody grabs that passport and alters it

and starts merely using it

to do this, that, or the other,

you don't want your name on what they're doing.

No. And if you can't find it, you can cancel it for either lost or stolen or just or disfigured.

So,

either way, they they accept it. You just give a little, you know, I lost the card. Don't know where it is. Please cancel the cancel it immediately. And And it'll ask for the number on the card and things like that. So it's very easy easy, and it covers her for what you just described.

Alright. That's all I got. I just another another solution.

Thank you, Dwayne. Comment comment.

Yeah. Comment.

So one of the callers just said they were stuck in LA even though they had property elsewhere.

I just drove through LA. I didn't seem to get stuck stuck.

So I'm not really sure why they're stuck.

Must be in the talk to Larry. I call. Paul. Paul. I talked to tell everybody that's driving said, why are we stuck in LA?

Yeah. It was awesome.

I was just asking why you're stuck in LA. I drove right through it. I didn't have a problem.

No. I'm I'm talking as far as what Paul is talking about, having land somewhere else,

but my job is in LA. And so I can't

get get to get the it's a long story that Paul understands that

we'll explain later. We've got a these people who have property somewhere else in another state are kinda stuck here in LA by the fact that they have jobs here

and other liabilities in this

crappy place is going to hell.

At the beginning of the show, somebody was mentioned territories.

Who was that?

Gee whiz, I'm feeling like everybody left because I chimed in.

Hey, Wahid. I seen a movie one time. It was called

I think it was called, hey, bro. Where's my car?

Is that why you're stuck in LA? You can't find your car?

No. No. Job and liabilities

have me stuck here. I have I have a eight eight acre farm in Louisiana.

And,

a a lot of ways tells me you better get out of the LA while you can.

Yeah. Get out of LA and go to LA.

Get out of LA

and go to LA.

Work

your

farm.

Well, you know, hey.

The fact that I spent fifty years growing up in LA, I don't know how to work our farms. Do you think they got a YouTube site?

May I? And and

Yes. Yes. Yes. Please go ahead. Please go ahead. Whatever you can help me with.

Just no. Just switching gears. Sorry, Waheed.

I came in late. Did anybody talk about the,

RBN show on

I guess, it was Saturday night, BB nine?

Did anybody else listen to that show? Did was that discussed today? I think it was Wayne. Is there a Wayne in California that called in?

Any any anybody listen to that show?

Okay. I have something very interesting. I heard it. Yeah. I Yeah. I heard parts of it.

It was very interesting.

The lady was very interesting,

but the thing that grabbed me the most from that show was when art in Georgia

called in and read,

Edward Mandel House's,

what he said in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson.

I'd like to read it. It's it's only a few paragraphs, but,

it it was pretty profound. It kinda knocked me out. Okay.

Here it goes.

Very soon, every American will be there's an echo here. Is there some reason, Paul?

Okay. I'll try again.

Very soon, every American will be required to register their biological

property

in a national system

designed to keep track of the people

and and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging.

By such methodology,

we can compel people to submit to our agenda,

which will affect our security

as a chargeback

for our fiat paper currency.

Every American

will be forced to register

or suffer not being able to work and earn a living.

They will be our chattel,

and we will hold the security interest over them forever

by operation of the law merchant

under the scheme of secured transactions.

Americans by unknowingly

or

unwittingly

delivering the bills of lading to us, meaning birth certificate,

will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent

forever to remain

economic slaves

through taxation

secured by their pledges.

They will be stripped of their rights

and give a commercial value and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit profit, and they will be none the wiser.

For not one man in a million

could ever figure our plans.

If by accident,

one or two would figure it out,

we have in our arsenal plausible

deniability.

After all,

this is the only logical way to find government to fund government government.

By floating liens and debt to the registrants

in the form of benefits and privileges,

this will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest

expectations

and

leave every American

a contributor Every American.

A contributor or to this fraud,

which we will call social insurance.

Without realizing it, every American will ensure us for any loss

we may incur. And in this manner,

every American will unknowingly be our servant.

However, begrudgingly,

the people will become helpless

and without any hope for their redemption,

and we will employ the high office of the president of our dummy

corporation

to foment this plot against America. Can you believe that shit?

Wow.

That's the hazard circular on steroids.

Amen. Where did you find that? Where did you find that? And could somebody put it in the chat? I'll put it in the chat. Let's see. Let me see here. I do believe it's on the matrix docs already.

Really?

Yes. I do believe so. Paul?

Let's see.

Here it is. Well well well, could she still put it on the chat?

I'll I'll try to. It's under birth certificate,

Edward Mandel House to Woodrow Wilson, the president. But I'll I'll I'll I'll see if I can pull it up. Okay?

That's also on the matrixdocs.com.

We've discussed that many, many times here on this platform.

It's it's almost as compelling as that saying from Netanyahu.

If anybody has that handy, that's a mind blower too.

Well, they have all

of my what? All of our I mean, the money in the world to try to get us to not to figure it out, but that, you know, they that's been around. That, that's a very important document,

but we did figure it out.

And our high most high never loses. So thanks to the high frequency.

Thank you.

Well, what about that guy on sixty minutes that said how that that Zionist guy that said, we are the producers and the directors

to the Zionist guy. He said straight up, right up on an interview, on sixty minutes, we produce and direct everything you see in the real world.

And we are the,

actors and

producers.

Project Mockingbird.

When you rebut their plausible

deniability

and you have them dead to rights,

they play their last card and call you insane.

I yield.

Yep.

And for the record, I am the happiest I've ever been. I never would ever wanna hurt myself, and, I love everybody. I don't have any criminal background.

I don't like to hurt anybody. I'm not on drugs.

And, just loving life just for anybody listening and that has nefarious,

ideas. I just want to put that on the record. God bless you all.

I had one comment about the Wendell House document.

I know Roger has has met from that and read it himself, I think, a number of times. Has anybody ever found any,

like, substantiation

of that, like,

proof that that was actual,

you know, what it says it is? Because it

as far as I can tell, there's no

concrete proof that that was actually found where it was found or backed up by anything else.

Well, fifty years ago, my history teacher in high school told us all about Mantle House.

You know, she didn't have the documents and stuff like that, but she told us about the mysterious

Edward Mantle House.

So it's been out there. The guy's a clown.

For sure. I've heard that, but, but in terms of this document,

in particular, which is sort of incriminating well, very incriminating if it's

if it's real, but it's just like, okay. Is there any way to,

you know, concrete say that, okay. Here's

exactly where this was found, and here's a record of it or something. It's just sort of,

Well You know, sounds sounds good. But Well, it's getting so that you can't find Hines Loeb's,

you know, quotes and stuff on the Internet anymore

if you don't know who Hines Loeb is. Henry Kissinger.

You know, when he said servicemen are nothing but big dumb animals

suited for foreign

policy.

Right.

Yeah. It's getting so you can't find that? So what? In fifty years? Oh, that's a wide scale.

Yeah. Full shot. Like the Internet's pretty much.

The that was

the Edward Mandel House thing was,

a private letter to Woodrow Wilson.

So it would be in a collection of Woodrow Wilson's,

private

letters, communications, and such.

That's where it would be. Wahid, I just posted it, Wahid. I just posted in the chat.

Yes. Paul Paul, I did go to,

Wilson's,

has a

depository of his letters, and it's not there.

I would think maybe have to go to the congressional

record or something like that to

define it, but it is hard to prove that it that it is real. I tried, and it's

I've done my best. Maybe somebody that can do deep deeper research,

but I haven't found proof.

Sorry.

Well, they've they've eliminated things conveniently by design. So, even if he did say it, we're losing,

you know, reality and,

in our in our records here now, folks. So,

you know, that's what we're dealing with.

And a manager might not be able to get in a in a minute, you're not gonna be able to get anything unless you do an iris scan

and fingerprint

to get online in any way, shape, or form, even Telegram,

despite the fact that I don't think Roger Sales understands that.

Everything's

voluntary. He does teach you that.

Hey, Robbie?

Yeah.

Hey. This is Wayne down in Texas. I was the guy that called in on Saturday night. Yes, Wayne.

Yeah. I didn't know how you how you understood that whole thing, but,

I was willing to give that lady a benefit of doubt. But when she started talking about all the Arabeltree law and the birth canal and all a lot of, patriot mythology, I just Yeah. Wanted to call in just to set her straight, number one, what kind of system of law we do have, which is Roger teaches at Babylonian Merchant Code.

Plus the fact,

plus the fact that,

I think she was,

I don't know. She's also talking about a couple of issues. I was trying to say I was trying to get her to maybe listen to Roger. I that's why I was giving out the Roger's name and the website because I felt like whether it was her or some of the people she supposedly has followers of,

I think it would be better if they heard some of Roger stuff to compare to what this lady's saying. So I think she's basically full of crap.

Well, I agree, and I'm glad that you called in.

However,

if you get into

if you become defensive and get into an argument,

not only is

the guest host going to, you

know, be defensive, but then,

you know, it confuses the issue. We have

to remain calm and unemotional

stating the facts.

You know, say, I have done this process,

and I just wanna highly recommend this, that you look into it and leave it at that. Because if you get into these heated

debates,

then that that that confuses the issue. But, again, I thank you for doing that. Well, what pissed me off was she kept trying to talk over me. Yeah. Almost an hour and a half or hour and forty five minutes of spewing her crap. And all I was trying to do is say fine, Wayne. Your call was fine.

Stuff. And then also a couple other things. Now all I was trying to do is point it towards Roger's

website and what he teaches because, again, I feel like if she's that smart and knows so much, then, all she needs is some of her education,

you know, increase a little bit so that she'd be more effective. But, again, if you heard her, she was trying to talk over me. I couldn't get a word in edgewise.

Yep. Yep. You did a good job, though. And I have,

I'm gonna put the

archive in this email to myself, and it has

several of the points in the chat room because it'll scroll away.

And Art also really dissed,

Roger, which he always does.

So, and I was gonna send that to Paul and Roger and, if anybody else wants it, this email,

have the archive and several several different things from that website. Apparently, she does a lot of good healing type things.

So, that's that's one attribute, but she tend sounded like she just thinks she knows it all.

You know, because I was putting that in the chat room too. There is no admiralty law. It's merchant law. And, so we had a discussion going on in there too.

And and I put several things from and and including my my affidavit,

one senate senate.

Yeah.

Hey, hey, hey. That lady that was

on Blackbird nine show, she didn't

quote one, not one single

law or

senate confirmation or CFR or UCC, anything to back up her

story that I heard twenty years ago about the North Canal and all that crap.

Yep. Yep. It was fear mongering.

She had no real basis.

Wow.

I'm glad I missed it.

Hey. I told you guys about it yesterday, right after it happened.

Ah, thank you.

I must have been I must have been away from the computer when you did that because I didn't hear about it.

House's letter is also in judge Stamper's book, Fruit from a Poisonous Tree.

And in there, he writes about the impact of what that really has and how it worked. And of course, we've got all the evidence

to its validity

for what the system we live in today.

Mhmm.

Thanks, Samuel.

I look at that letter as akin to,

what's his name? Albert Pike to Masini.

It was up there. Everybody had pictures of it, copies of it, and all of a sudden, it disappeared.

How convenient.

There you go.

Yeah. Hey, Robbie. Paul?

Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Hey, Robbie. One quick thing. This is Wayne. I have to get off, but I I do live in an unincorporated area,

North Of Dallas, and, I can tell you there are a lot of good,

issues about that and benefits. The thing you'll have to, look into though is,

contracting out your garbage, your water,

maybe electrical, that that sort of thing because usually all that stuff's contained in the city. And then, couple other things, you need to look into the insurance factor

because, if you're close to a town that may cover your area, your insurance probably okay.

But,

if there's no, coverage from a local town, your insurance,

your fire insurance for whatever,

type of structure you have could be much higher. So you need to get a kind of a quote and talk to an insurance agent to make sure, you're in maybe an area that that would be covered so it would help you save money.

Right. And all this stuff Duns.

It'll Look at to the Duns number too. You know, some of these little townships after they have some panicleism mix

weather or whatever, they end up,

you know, getting on the Duns and the Sam.

And the good thing too is you can also build a structure, and, typically, there's no permits. There's no inspections. There's no this, no that. You just have to make sure you have a very good quality contractor who's gonna do a good job. I was lucky when I had one out here in Texas and fantastic job. I I couldn't be happier. And, but I know there's a lot of horror stories too. So that's, the due diligence on that aspect is very important.

Yeah. It really varies

varies. They can, if you're on the county instead,

they may come out and require inspection and fees and all that, but they don't do anything else except revenue.

I yield.

That's When you were looking for a property, were you specific oh, sorry, Paul. When you were looking for a place to live, were you specifically looking for unincorporated

or no?

I just got lucky in finding what I did.

I wasn't really, too keen on that aspect.

I wasn't really thinking about that much. I just love the area. And luckily enough, it turned out to be unincorporated. But,

the thing about it is now the county, will not,

there's a big county in North Of Dallas called Collin County.

And, even though they have grown tremendously,

they will not, increase the amount of money they give these local cities to provide fire protection and stay kinda steady even though their revenues are great. So basically, now they're trying to push through an e ESD tax,

I think emergency services district and that's gonna again cause a little more tax for revenue for them and may it may work, it may not. But, a lot of people I know in my area are pissed off about it because we pay tons of property taxes. We support the local towns with sales taxes. So the lack of money is not the issue, just a matter of political influence and,

what kind of, money they wanna suck out of us. So

Okay. Now it's my turn. Now it's my turn.

Said. I thought Paul said that the property taxes were much less.

No. I don't I don't see that in my area.

Excuse me.

Now it's my turn.

Proximity

to emergency

services.

I did mention that.

Make sure that you're in an area that is covered by at least a volunteer fire department that can be there within fifteen minutes or so.

I realized that volunteer fire departments are difficult in and of the fact that it takes probably ten minutes for the firefighters to get to the damn station. But,

proximity to emergency services, taxes are usually lower,

and

it may if a, if a property has an HOA

or a POA,

don't immediately

discount it because,

typically, property owners associations, they

charge a small fee, but they accept responsibility

for maintaining

the roads in the area

because the county doesn't do it. There's no city or a village to do it.

So there may be a a, property owners association

that charges a small fee, typically under $80 a year,

and that is for road maintenance.

So

the thing is due diligence. If you don't do that, you're screwed,

and you may just find a diamond in the rough.

Okay. Now I'm done. I know I know. Over

over here in Vegas,

there's an a HOA

at a building.

They're charging 1,200

a month

Yeah. In the building.

Yeah. And so,

what is it? The CCNA or whatever?

It's the,

the charter CCNRs.

CCNR. The charter

the charter of the HOA or POA.

Read

that, find out what the restrictions and limitations are, and find out what the limits of their authority

are. And if it's not something you wanna sign on to, look in a different area.

It's all due diligence.

You're not gonna walk onto a piece of land and say, I'm home, and whip out your checkbook. That ain't happening.

Paul?

Yeah.

In California,

it's important for them to know whether you're unincorporated

or

not,

because

it has, I think,

more to do

with agenda 21 and agenda 30 and the

corporate plan that the county has.

Yeah. And that thing is usually two phone books stuck together.

So if you really wanna find out what they're talking about, you'd go there.

But if you're truly on the land, you wouldn't be in either one of those categories, in my opinion.

Here in California,

you certainly don't get a break

on taxes if you're unincorporated.

You

still have your,

you know, slot in the school district and everything else that you're paying to.

But there are a lot of rules. I

a long time ago, I read a county plan, the one that was applying to me for a particular case,

and it was really all about agenda 21.

So I'll just leave it at that.

Alright.

It all boils down to due diligence.

Find out what's gonna be expected to do where they don't force building building code on you. That would I know there's places like that in the Carolinas because I met some guys that were here working for their father on a job, and they told me that as contractors there,

they have maybe one encounter

building a custom home with the building department.

It's a small fee, and that's it. In California, they live with you.

Right. They do.

They,

they roll a little, like, mobile office, you know,

on the back of the property and they camp out.

Yeah. That's about it. Just in case you wanna show up kind of freedom freedom.

Yeah. Just in case you wanna show up at, like, 03:00 in the morning and do some unapproved wiring.

Whatever.

It's all due diligence. Buyer beware.

And I don't think I can stress They actually Post facto wanted to change the description of the, the land I was under, and I after a long bunch of work and reading that county plan and having the people down there point me,

where I should be looking,

it basically came down to agenda 21.

It changed

my property's title

of after the fact

of what could be done there,

instead of being basically,

rural

residential,

agricultural residential,

they gave it a new term. And then you had to look up that term and find out what that term means and you know how it goes.

Digging, digging, digging to finally find out that

the new term basically meant that if you don't have the resources,

they're what they're calling resources,

then you cannot occupy the land.

So that sort of comes down to what they decide the resources and whether you have enough of them or not. That could be something like water,

etcetera.

And all of a sudden, you don't have title. Well,

I refuted that letter because

they sent it out to every property owner in the county and people just didn't respond to it.

I tried to get people to respond to it, but nobody would listen.

So silence was consent for all those people who didn't respond.

Uh-huh.

Yeah. Read your message. I put a I put a video in the chat room

if anyone is interested.

This gentleman went to the

to the county appraisal of taxes. They have a class action suit for Texas, and they're also using that for any other state that people wanna do it. And they send it to Bundy, how they steal all the property taxes are not being used for,

a fund or or education.

But, he went in there and he acted with a camera

and, to lower his taxes and they kicked him out because he,

he confirmed all the lies and he gave all the datas and everything and they're not using it. So for any of us that think

they're using our property taxes

or or

stealing our money,

they're not using for education or anything. And they have proof and data and,

the gentlemen are very prepared.

So you need to see their videos.

I I put one there, but you see the back videos that he's been doing for a long time. And for anybody that's in Texas,

it it directs,

completely to you guys.

You can Brian, I think you're talking about Mitch. I think that's his name. Is that right, Jesse?

Yeah. Mitch and, Travis. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. And that's,

mockingbirdproperties.com

c,

c oh, gosh. There's Yeah. I put in the chat room, and, you can you can look at the links, and you're absolutely right.

Yeah. He's he's the builder and he's been fighting all this, but,

they have a class action suit. They send it to Bundy. So we'll see what happens. But,

but, but, that video, I don't know if you saw that one, but he went in there and he recorded everything. And you see all these people in there, they're just,

tyrants.

Yes.

They are. And he's, I think, he's,

doing his cases, so he he knows he's gonna have to go to the Supreme Court. So he's he's structuring his cases so he can get there, I guess, in ten years or something like that, but

good on him.

Yeah. I I would think it's some of us that should

I think maybe we someone of us should, contact him and, and explain about what it'd be a national because I think that would be an extra tool tool for them if they would understand it because they really, really understand about property taxes and,

and, they would and they use the constitution. They were supposed to charge, you know, the property to taxes to us and also on and so on. So if they have that extra tool, they might come handy.

Yeah.

Earlier

earlier in the show today,

a woman

called in and said she was from the great state of Massachusetts.

Maine. You know what we should start doing?

This state ain't so great, really.

We should say

the great country

of Massachusetts,

the great

country

of Texas.

That's what we should start saying

because of our status.

I was I was going to ask,

y'all if it's possible,

that I read,

a quote from I'm going back to Mandel House and Wilson.

They didn't he quit talking to Mandel House at the end of his, as far as my history's right,

he he he disowned Mandel House at the end of his administration.

And I was gonna read a short quote

from him about

also the Federal Reserve. It says, I'm a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly

ruined my country.

A great industrial nation is controlled by

its system of credit. Our system of credit is

concentrated.

The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities

are in the hands of a few men.

We have come to be one of the most ruled, one of the most completed,

controlled,

and dominated governments in the civilized

world. No longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction,

and a vote of the majority,

but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. I yield. This is after.

After he signed

1913,

the,

Federal Reserve Act. I just wanted to put that out there. I yield. Thank you.

Yes.

I put the, and you can find it near archives at RBN, the, Blackbird's,

snack shack. And he has listed all her particulars and she does point to certain laws.

But, yeah. There again, it's the Admiralty and she

refuses to, accept that that's not how it is. But but it's interesting read and her story.

So and I sent email to several people with,

parts from the chat room that were interesting. Like I said, Art dissed

Roger all over the place, and and I had said, if the Holy Spirit tells you to get, you best get.

Because he was talking about him running away to Ecuador. He was afraid of harassment and whatnot.

He has said this repeatedly

from some private conversation he had. Whatever the motivation

you need to get, you better get. I got

Right. And I just wanted to say I too am a known an most unhappy man.

Sorry.

I wanted to point something out about territories to whoever brought that up. They said they're studying it.

I've got a little ditty that might be interesting to them.

So another one of those hidden things.

According to Lee Brost,

there's a difference between the territory

and a territory.

The territory

would be where a state citizen is,

and a territory

would be where that fourteenth amendment citizen is.

So if you're reading about territory,

you have to watch that distinction

to get an idea

of what the federal government is talking about.

Also in the chat, Patrick Chanel,

who's on with Paul English and Blackbird and different ones and goes by Windmiller in the chat,

said, contact Paul Beener and have Roger Sales on.

And, Blackbird had had Roger on one time some time ago, but,

it's only an hour show. So

Hey, Samuel.

I put also in the chat room about the definition of state,

and I didn't know there was convention nineteen thirty three in the country of Uruguay

and Monteverde, I think that's capital.

And,

all the countries from South, Central, and

United States sign it and gives the definition,

a state and, lowercase and uppercase and

and what is the res resonance and so on and so on.

So what a coincidence is also in 1933.

The state of confusion.

That's what we're in.

You know, keeping track of all of this,

I mean, all the information.

One of the

centuries,

millennia is just

the web

of God knows what.

Yeah.

And one of the articles I put there, it says

it was signed 1933.

A treaty was signed

on the rights and duties of states.

And,

and the treaty defined a state using four criteria of permanent population,

a defined territory, a government, and

and, the relationship with other states.

The convention also declared the state did not have to be recognized by other states and so on.

The states

Of Israel.

Yep.

Or is it really?

Communist state Of Israel.

Those three gods, Isis,

Ra, and El.

Yeah. What religion is that?

Babylonian.

When Julie was dealing with the passport people,

she could have pulled the line from Randy Lee when he was in court.

The prosecutor is trying to claim he's somebody else.

And Randy Lee closes it out.

He says,

I am who I say I am,

and not somebody else

can say that.

So that affidavit

is you telling the Department of State who you are,

and that's why they have to put it in the notice. You've got a choice.

And that should be the end of it.

He says, in court, he also says, I now will be mute

on the subject.

Done.

Yeah.

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