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In this episode, we delve into the complexities of citizenship and personal freedom, exploring the historical and legal intricacies that define our current societal structure. Our discussion begins with a reflection on the historical context of the 14th Amendment and its implications on dual citizenship, particularly focusing on the distinctions between state and federal citizenship. We explore the concept of voluntary servitude and how individuals unknowingly consent to a system that limits their freedoms. This episode serves as a guide for those seeking to understand and reclaim their natural rights, offering insights into the legal processes involved in changing one's citizenship status.

We are joined by a diverse group of listeners, including new participant Angelo, who shares his journey of discovering these truths and the challenges of educating others about them. The conversation touches on various historical references, including the Phoenicians and the significance of the color purple, illustrating the depth and breadth of the topics covered. The episode also highlights the importance of community and shared knowledge in navigating these complex issues, providing listeners with resources and encouragement to pursue their own paths to freedom.

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So, like, I was back in the old announcer's seat in my youth there, John hitting that intro like that. Good morning.   We're gonna start another six day week here right now on the May   28.   Oh, excuse me. April about to go to May. I'm getting a little behind in my work.   And, of course, it's, the Radio Ranch, on a Monday. Can't trust that day.   And, our buddy John comes by and hangs with us for a little bit, John Kacera. Been around   this message since the message started many moons ago.   So, here we go. Roger Sales, John Kacera, and you. And if you're looking to get out from under Jewish slavery, you found the right place. Paul, we've got a number of folks that help us extend that reach, help people all over the world maybe possibly   get out from under Jewish slavery. God, it's repulsive from these creeps.  

Could you give them the proper credit, please, for extending our reach and, the recognition that they   so deserve?  

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Yes. I can. There he is. There he is. He lives. I had, well, I was trying to talk to you, but I I didn't have the right button pushed. So,  

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I The story of your life.  

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I do have everything set up right now. I do believe Okay.   I have one more thing to check. Yes.   Everything is   coming along swimmingly.   WDRN productions is,   they were expected to join us this morning. However, they were unable to.   Hopefully, they'll pick us up during the program.   So right now, we're on eurofolkradio.com,   our flagship station. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we are on Global Voice Radio Network   on PodHome.   PodHome, however, is, giving me trouble. It's not allowing me to log in.   We are streaming live on that, but you have to go directly to the streaming server,   and that link is GVN   on PodHome. That is that is on the matrixdocs.com   where you will also   find links to free conference call and join us live on the show.  

Wow. We've Okay. We've got hiccups this morning, but,  

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all will not unusual.  

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All will be better,   either during or immediately after the program. Everything will, you know, be normal.   So  

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Okay. Alright. Well, whatever normal is. Right?   John, you're doing good this morning?   Being busy.  

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Yeah. Actually, yes. Just a lot of changes going on over here with me.   You know, the meetings that we've been going through   started back, when COVID started.   There was a little lady named Peggy Hall   who started getting on  

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on the Internet. And She's the constitutional attorney that doesn't put any credence in what we do. Right? She's not an attorney. No. No. No.  

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She did but she doesn't like what we do.   That's for sure. Okay. And pray for her. Pray for her.   Yeah.   She just thinks she's got better ways to do things. And frankly, she's been very effective at what she does   and spread the word and has built quite a following.   But I started meeting a lot of people out here and that's when I started   you know, during that period, we had the   Spingola thing happen. And, that's when I started going to other meetings that I told people that I met and then began putting together the idea of going out and doing a presentation   using Spingola and all of the handouts   that,  

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that you talk about in that presentation. Mhmm. By the way, for the newer people, there are two,   documents on the website on how to escape the matrix that we spent   many, many hours tightening up.   And, it's a brief point by point kind of synopsis of what's happened. You may want to avail   yourself of that. And what John's talking about is he,   he would go out and get people to set up meetings in their homes or,   of 10 or less than 10 people preferably, I believe. Correct?  

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10 or less. Yeah. How many? But no. Gotta have five at least five there. You know? Okay. Well, then he'd go, take the, Diana Spingola,  

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interview   and that handout   And go play it for them, and and everybody would have the handout to read along, and, then they'd answer questions and stuff. We got some of our really,   good, students from that activity, John. One being a little 18 year old named Presley that is   quite the impressive young man. He gives us all hope that there's hope for the future, I'll tell you. Well, not only that.  

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Presley,   was 17   when he attended that meeting. Oh my goodness. And, Dan Mintz was in that meeting.   And I held that one up in North LA.  

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And And and Dan Mintz is still providing us, folks.   I just did an interview with I think I mentioned it to you last week.   A gentleman named Tom,   forty one uses,   owns his own advertising agency there in LA   and very sharp guy. He got, somebody that Dan touched touched him.   And so he got real curious, and he said, I just can't believe this. And he went and bought my book and read it, listened to a number of interviews and stuff, and then wanted to consult with me. He said, I just still don't believe it. I know I'm gonna get in some kind of trouble or something. I said, no. You're not. Chances are you're not. You know? So, anyway, that's, thank you, Dan.  

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Well, Dan Dan was,   very appreciative. Presley was just over the top in that class. And, those those two went on   to to do some good things.   Dan is involved with another group out there,   and,   he actually represents   how to get your freedom and what Roger teaches. Oh, he's gone he's gone past that. He's doing a lot of other different things. They're doing equity stuff, and they have five or six different pathways that they talk about, and they but they charge for all this. I mean, this is these are big bucks that they're making.   Just their equity course alone is over $3,000,   and I think Dan's portion of that I I I'm not sure exactly what he's charging, but everything's behind a paywall.  



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We don't wanna do that here because here's the reason. Can I stop you for a second? Please.   There's nothing that we do here. I've told you this before. There's nothing that we do or or portray for the most part, great greatly the most part that we haven't thought through. This is one of them.   What   my goal here with this information is to affect change,   period. K? I don't want them I don't want your money.   I I I don't want, you know, all that other stuff. I just wanna affect change. And so   if you charge people,   then everybody's not gonna be able to access it because everybody isn't in a financial   situation to do it. So, therefore, it's much harder to affect change because you can't get into,   some percentage of the masses.  

And I wanna affect change real bad. And so, that's why I keep it open. I bend over backwards to help every one of you. And just like John in that meeting, what he didn't know when he did the meeting that Presley and and Dan were gonna go on to accomplish such positive things here. Presley's   video for an 18, 17 year old is incredible. K?   And,   so that's the reason I another reason I don't charge.   Alright? I won't charge you for this information. If you if you're gonna do it, you're gonna pay me by learning the information.   And if because we don't have a lack of filing paper inform situation.  

We have a lack of education and understanding   situation,   and that's the only thing that's gonna cure this. If people pay you, you pay somebody to do it. You go on about your life. You're not gonna study. You're not gonna go back. People ask you what what you did. You can't explain it to them. And if you get in a position where you're confronted by some authority figure, you probably more than likely can't defend your position.   That's the reason and the method to my madness, if you would.   So, anyway, I'm finished, John. Roger. Yeah. Okay.   Well, there's somebody who wants to say something. I heard a mic open. Who you got something to add here this morning?  



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It's Larry. I'm I'm here as a result of Presley's work.   Cool. Just See there? Guy. Yeah. Here we go. I had a question. I watched one of his videos   on how to become a national,   and I was very impressed,   at how articulate he was   and how knowledgeable he was. And so I thought he was a lot older than that. So he I I think he posted his email   on the, YouTube video somewhere, like, maybe in the comments or whatever, maybe on the video itself.   So I emailed him,   and,   I said, are you gonna do more videos? I said, you know, you're pretty articulate,   as far as what you have to say and teach.  

And I also emailed him because I had a question about the passport,   and he didn't really have an answer for me. So he directed me to you   and said you could just call up the Radio Ranch. I said, what the heck is a Radio Ranch?   And, of course, he he explained it. And   that's when I started calling in on the show on a sun when you're on Sundays. Do you remember that?  

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Oh, yeah. On RBN. Yeah.  

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Yeah. So I don't know if you remember me calling in on a Sunday, like, two or three weeks in a row, asking you a bunch of questions about the passport.  

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But that's how I got in touch with you.  

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Fantastic, man. Well, that's good. You never know where things are gonna happen. I promise you when John and Glenn were doing their,   teachings,   they had no idea that I would be the one out of all that room full of people that would carry this further. You just don't know. I don't know what you're gonna do with the information.   I mean, I I hope that somebody   supersedes me with it, you know, and goes on and finds some other,   greater knowledge and understanding out of this.   So, anyway, it's just,   it's very cool, and I see us growing. It's slow, but I'd rather us grow slow than grow fast and be a flash in the pan.   And all of you have contributed, and I trust you're still contributing either in learning   or in applying,   the information and talking to other folks about it, then you don't have to really beat them up with it. You just ask them questions.  

You know? You what you do the best way we found   is just to present the dialectic   in opposite.   In other words, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a citizen of The United States Of America?   Most people think those are the same. That's what we've been programmed, conditioned, if you will, to the way to think. And so you're going back and confronting them with that. When you use the term, you you know, if you're at a one of these bureaucrats or somebody and they say, are you a resident? You know, well, are are you using that term in a geographical or in a political definition?   Are you applying a political or or a geographical definition of that term? Well, they're gonna look at you like you got three eyes. Okay? But you're just planting seeds, and that's a real good way to do it. It's nonconfrontational.  

It's not offensive. And,   if, if   the presentation of that to someone,   motivates them or or tickles their curious,   then they'll ask you more. And then you got a door open door.   Remember, it's easier to pull the rope   than it is to push a rope.   Always.   Right, John? You're an old salesman.   Yeah.   Sure.   So, anyway, just starting off with that. Thank you, Larry, for that information. I did not know that.  

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Well, anyway, you Presley  

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Presley has brought a number of people here because we've had his his video brought up a number of times. And let me tell you something, Larry. You wanna know something that's well, it's not scary. It's actually motivating.   We had, Preston and his mother, Sonny, on the show one time. I think John will remember that.   And,   Presley's got two younger brothers who, according to his mother, are sharper than he is.   There's there's some real,  

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real hope to grasp on to. His dad is also a corporate attorney.  

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Yeah. Boy, he is a corporate attorney and John had to put all this stuff in front of him.  

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And I did. I did a great job.   Actually, when we broke for lunch, eating pizza in those days, I hadn't really yet started on my regimen.   I we went we talked quite a bit, and I suggested that he quit his practice and start working with nationals.   And, no. I mean, you know, it was really good.   Presley asked me to keep keep down the Jewish angle of this thing because that's their background.   And they're they're great. Just great. It was a great class. Because they're fabulous with the folks. Presley had   his dad there and a whole bunch of other friends, his mom.   And,   it was a typical meeting, and and they didn't offer me money or anything. But, I mean, like, Dan's class said most people wanted to give me donations, and they wanted to control the meeting too sometimes,   especially if you guys got MBAs.  

I had Yeah.   With Robert,   Lowe, and he's,   well, he was always negotiating meeting size and stuff because I didn't want a room full of people.   I really if you're gonna ask ask and answer questions, you just can't do that in a day. You know? And these would be all pretty much all day classes.   And the only requirement I had was you had to feed me.   And   so that way that worked out pretty good. Yep. But He then he probably gained some pounds too.  

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Who? Me?   Never. Never, John.  

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Well, anyway, it was pretty good because what I would tell these people is is exactly this. It says, I'm here to help you guys become me.   I want you to do what I'm doing. Mhmm. And   and, you know, I gave everything away for free.   Even if they wanted to try to insist on giving me money, I didn't take any money for it, which kinda disturbs me now that some people are out there using it and taking money for it. You know? I mean,   but that's their business. They've turned it into a business, and so that, you know, they're marching on. Yep. To to each his own, we can't control any of that. Well, I'd I'd like to think they, adhere to the ideals that I have put forth,  

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but I know some people aren't. Some people do it costs money to ghost this, do that,   occasionally. And if you're reimbursing somebody for expenses, that's not bad. I just don't want people I don't wanna make a business out of this. For one thing, I don't wanna have to keep up with it.   You know? Oh, well,   Larry paid. Is Larry paid this month?   Well, what about Julie else? She's behind in arrears two, three months.   You know, I don't wanna go into that curve.   Exactly. That's not what I'm here for.  

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Well, I didn't want the hassle of with it either.   Anyway, then we get we got over to pizza cookery,   and that's where I met Judy Mickovitz and   Oh, okay. A number of her   people that ran that restaurant.   And then there was another gal up north. I can't quite remember her name right now, but she's been very effective and very vocal and ran for office.  

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And Oh, to the gal up in Nevada City.  

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Yeah.   Mhmm. And she   was an employee   of the people that owned Pizzacovary.   Oh.  

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Wow.  

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Small world. Oh, yeah. And the thing is is that be be going to these meetings and and meeting these different people, I ran into a guy by the name of Anthony. Well, Anthony was doing holding   trying to start meetings up in Victory Park,   and I went up there with him with one of the first meetings.   And as the COVID situation got worse, we got bigger and bigger crowds to come over and listen to what we were talking about. And then I simply would prospect everybody that came there. I'd ask them the question, the magic question, you know,   are you a citizen of The United States   or a US citizen of The United States Of America?  

And we'd be off and running. And that's where we got Daniel Mercury, the guy that's kind of trying to become California governor.  

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Oh, good. Yeah.  

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He's a powerhouse.   He is a powerhouse. He he's taken this way past what we've done and and just started doing all kinds of research and   and to common law and everything else.   And he was a guy   the first video that we we broke away from Anthony because Anthony was beginning to tell people   they couldn't say certain things. They couldn't talk about certain things, and he he became kind of a little dictator there and we couldn't have that. So we broke the way, started our own meetings.   And we produced over 80 quality videos,   not just on the subject of what we talk about here,   but   just things in general, things that are going on in the community. And   so it was very fertile ground for me to be able to talk to these people. But pretty soon it became the same people over and over again. And as things got better,   nobody's feeling real threatened anymore. So they're they're not, you know, really interested in that. So yesterday was the last meeting that we're gonna hold in the open end of the park.  

Aw. Everything's gonna be moving.  

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The end of an era.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's time. If if things crank up again and people are scared, you know, they'll they'll be glad to come back to a meeting over there. But it's just too much to keep driving up there for very few people being involved. Right. No. I understand that. Yeah. So we we're moving on that stuff online.   And it got expensive for me because, you know, I had to drive over a hundred miles a day that just, you know, to get up there and back. Oh my lord, John. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.   And I've been doing that for years now. That's  

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enough for a gallons of gas and how much? What's gas in California now?  

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It's $4 and something.  

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Oh, yeah.  

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And, you know, what's his name up there? The governor   Newsom,   he's trying to I think they added an extra dollar a gallon for tax of some sort.   Jeez. That's coming up.  

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Yeah. Oh, please get him. Get who however they've got control out there through the elections, obviously.   Because, really, I guess, predominantly, California is really a red state. Usually, a lot of them have left now.   Your area, Orange County and Riverside, particularly,   but also all over the whole state,   they go in and figure out some way to rig these elections,   and we get all these goofballs. What did, in the last Let let me let me let let me straighten that out. Two house seats   weren't decided for over a month after the elect after election. Yeah. Yeah. But let me let me swung to Democrats. Okay. I'll shut up. I'm getting like Alex Jones. Go ahead. Well, the reason that they're get they're in power is because  

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the so called conservatives, the red guys,   don't go vote.  

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Okay. Well, I'm sure that's part of it. No. That's the biggest part of it.  

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If they would get out and do their thing,   instead of complaining, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than having to sell your house and move to another state. Well, probably.  

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Oh.  

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You know, you and you have Victor Hansen up there.   The guy's pretty good.  

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He's great. I love I love Victor Hansen. His whole demeanor is just fantastic.  

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And he's got a history in here. He's got a history of farming, and actually, what lives around him are mostly,   been migrants.  

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I think he grew up on a farm. He did. He's he's still doing that. And inherited it, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's on he he's just got a wonderful perspective. It's interesting, especially on   on ancient stuff, which is something I wanted to touch on today. But go ahead. I'll get back to it now that you open the lid a little bit. Yeah. He he, he  

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tightens us up. He he he's very good with all of that stuff. He's very intellectual and but the guy knows where he's what he's talking about. He he did it. You know? Yep.   And so, I wish more people would do that. But, seriously, the Republicans and the people that claim to be conservatives out here don't go vote.   I don't get it.  

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Even with mail in ballots, but then they just overflood whatever the Republican or the red vote might be with the,   fake   ballots that they bring in two weeks later. Oh, we found these in a closet, man. Yeah. We forgot them the other day. Well, you can't have any more votes than there are people in the state. You know? I I know. It's ridiculous.   And they're trying to block Trump's,   EO   on the reforming the voting thing, of course, with their fake judges. Boy, that is a   situation that has got to come to some sort of ad, and it's gonna be real interesting.   So,   Roger.  

Yes. That one's right in front of us. There's Larry. Yes, sir.  

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Yeah. I was wondering if John heard of assembly bill fourteen twenty one,   which is a mileage tax   that some Democrat just recently,   you know, proposed.   And what it's gonna do is the average from what I've learned,   the average Californian drives 15,000   miles a year.   And at 9¢ a mile, that comes up to, like, $2,000   additional   expenses for this tax.   And, you talked about the,   the fuel tax before. California has the highest gas tax in the country. It's $2 more than anywhere else in the country.  

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Yeah. It's just that what California   state tax on gasoline? Is that what you're talking about? Because Yeah. Remember,   gasoline is an excise tax.   That means it has to be uniform. It can't be higher.   They could if it's against the other states possibly,   but it can't mess with the federal percentage.  

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It's got nothing to do with the federal. The   all state tax on top of Okay.  

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God, Gavin. There's some boy, I I wish you guys would just hang that guy.  

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Well, he needs to have an auto he needs to have an auto air.  

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Yeah, Larry.  

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Los Angeles is $1,000,000,000   in the hole. That's their deficit,   and there's talk that there's gonna be a lot of city workers laid off.  

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You what you gotta do in order to avoid some of these things is kinda like what I have. I my my,   vehicle is registered in another state.  

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Yeah.   Fire the mayor.  

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Anyway, it's it's a real exciting time out here and and, you know, big changes. And then, of course,   you know, because of my financial background, I was always having to I had to make money.   And, so we got involved in a number of things,   which were   pretty good, but they all went bad for some reason. And, generally, it was government interference,   and then some   some internal stuff that it was bad. People got   made too much money then got, you know, big and decided they were gonna walk away with everything in the pot.   You know? So we've got some major court cases going on.  

We got a major court case going for Joby,   Weeks from BitClub.   You remember BitClub?  

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Oh, yeah.  

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K. Well,   we're filing affidavits along with Joby.   He's got a $22,000,000,000   lawsuit against the feds now. Mhmm. He's out from under him, so he can now go attack him.   And,   I am amazed at the number of people   that are just not stepping up to file their affidavits   to join the claim.  

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You know, these people, they do things, but then they don't follow through when it comes time to hold these That's the first time I've heard about people adding their affidavits to join the claim. You mentioned that he was suing them before, but there weren't any specifics.   That I remember.  

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Well, I've put it out on on the Internet. It's on   I'm I sent it out to everybody that,   wasn't involved.   And Uh-huh. Joby's been emailing and stuff, and his first court date's coming up here on May 8. He's gonna present those affidavits.   And is when we checked here a week ago, only 10 people had sent in their affidavit.  

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Wow.  

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I mean, it's just crazy.   And then the case on,   Hyperverse   and that stuff, that's already in control of the   guys that run the country over there.   We haven't heard any more yet, but we filed that case.   Okay. So anyway,   there's there's activity going on here. People aren't just sitting around, you know, waiting for things to happen. We were trying to get recovery and and go after these guys because,   you know, look at the way the world is going towards Bitcoin.   Arizona now has just they're having a final vote on setting up their own state Bitcoin reserve and everything else. I mean, it's just incredible.  

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In it it okay.   So,   There's somebody who'll steal it out of Arizona. That's one of the most that's one of the most corrupt states in the union.   Well, I get the state. Cartels control Arizona.  

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They know where the money is.   Tom Holman's doing pretty good. I don't know if you heard his latest statement.  

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Well, I do know they, they,   got this weekend. I guess we can switch things over from chitchat over to,   actuality.   In reality, they did get about 800, I believe, at least more,   illegal aliens, many of them gang members, by going and raiding,   bars this weekend,   all over the country, there was a big thing called Operation Tidal Wave, I think, in Florida   where they got a number of illegals.   Yeah. But they got a lot to go. But I I do know that they are,   going, of course, right now targeting the more,   radical MS thirteen and TDV   or TD, whatever that Venezuelan   gang is. Hell, I speak a little Spanish. I still can't figure out what what it means.  

So,   anyway,   hopefully, progress is made. What else happened this weekend? There were some other   fairly significant things.   Did you see Barnes last night? I couldn't find it anywhere. Yeah. I guess a blast in Matt at Rumble. I,   I from in their cert from their search, the way they program their programs and everything else is very difficult to maneuver.   It is. But, anyway, I lost them. They were on live on the live segment now. You got a different category live. They're doing it. And I don't like to watch it live. I like to watch it after it's recorded. And,   and then after they finished, I couldn't find it anywhere. It wasn't in the you go to the Grumble search engine, and it says, well, you know, there's there's the the episodes come up on the left when you do a search, and you look at the top, it says three years ago. The one below it two years ago. I I I want   why don't you have them chronologically   from the latest one posted to the oldest? You gotta go over to some other chart today, yesterday, two weeks ago, last month, and then you do today,  

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and nothing shows up. I I just I get very frustrated with them. I agree. One of the reasons I go don't go over there hardly at at all for anything because it's too confusing and it's too time consuming.   Yep.   The other thing that, you know, I had these heart situations develop   and and having to find ways to to recover.   And the guys   that were involved in hyperverse that actually brought it to the world,   Amanda   Lee was one of the main major promoters early on.   And,   a guy by a New Zealander by the name of Roy Conacher,   was also very much involved. He's a ex banker and investment guy.  

Well, what they what what they've done is they've developed a program for for me for   health. So   you're supposed to be exercising and you're supposed to be,   taking care of yourself. What they did, they just turned around and they said, you know what?   We're gonna put together a little club where people can get paid to do it.   So now what they've done is they've developed a program which, doesn't have a product,   but you pay dues to join it, but then you you   have an app on your phone that controls   the that accounts for what you do. So if you go out and you do 10,000 steps a day and you do that for a certain period and you meet these goals, you win prizes.   It's pretty cool.  

Alright. Different ways. Motivates people to get to do what they need to do,   but they're they're able to get a reward,   and the app controls and keeps track of everything. And they just automatically get these benefits and coaching and stuff like that, and it turns out it's a referral business now. They get about five or six level of referrals   where you can refer people to, and I I think that's very motivating.   I know that,   years ago, a company called ITT   developed an insurance product that they would give you more insurance   based upon your   exercise and stuff at the health clubs.  



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Okay.  

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Makes sense. I yeah. Right. And I went out and I showed people how they could double their insurance without increasing any payments   if they were if they were at the club. And I went around to these, exercise places,   got their list and contacted their people and tied it into the president's   you remember Kennedy had this whole program. They're in '64.   Yeah. Yeah. And I tied tied it into that sits system, which is still going on, actually. They don't promote it. Actually,  

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his his nephew is gonna re  

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revigorate it. But the cool thing about I've just talked about it. Anybody can do this anywhere on the planet.   They set their own goals.   They meet their goals. And if they do and they compete with others,   they one guy just got a brand new iPhone out of it Okay. Just for meeting his goals.   Alright. That's motivating,   but it's not a product. You you don't lose money there. You know, it's just motivating to get you going. And if you if you stick to your goals and you you you get some rewards for it, and I think that that's that's what's needed because a lot of people drop off. You know, they start it and they they don't continue because they're not getting little little little rewards and stuff like that. Uh-huh. I think it's a genius idea. Well, it's interesting the twist on it.  

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What else was I gonna I was just gonna say you were touched on history, but there's Larry. He's got something probably more constructive. Yes, Larry.  

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It's Samuel.  

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Oh, I'm sorry. You do sound alike there. Hey, Samuel.  

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Yeah.   John, I I was wondering, didn't you also go on the carnivore diet?  

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Yes.  

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I want to point something out to you.   They added a,   a a gross   drug to animals   starting with pigs in 1999.   It's called,   ractopamine.   And one of the side effects to this stuff is heart and respiratory   problems.   I'm just wondering if maybe you,   Jim, Gary,   guys who went on this diet might be getting more of that stuff, and   that might be part of your issues. Just wanted to bring it up. No. No. No. My issues came from mister Donut  

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and mister Lazy.   That's where my issues came from.   And Well, I'm I'm sure that when you're eating   when you're eating   this thing, one of the things you do is you wanna eat clean. So you really control what where you're getting your food from.   So,   everything that I'm using is is pretty much   grass fed, pasture raised Mhmm.   Stuff like that.   Mhmm. Yeah. It it's a big topic about food quality.   It's a big deal. I agree.   The thing is is that   you have the whole system, including the medical system, saying you shouldn't be doing that.   But yet more and more people are going to it because they actually get results   and they get healthy.  



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When many when green guys move down here, many of them lose weight because the quality of the food's so much better.  

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Yeah.   No question about it.   Everything   I'm telling you, I never understood   why when you go to the store like Costco and you buy their stuff,   their pies and all this stuff, they got a list of ingredients in there   that are names I can't pronounce and have no idea what it is. It's just   incredible.   You're buying an apple pie, and then you're buying an apple pie with a paragraph full of crap of what   what's in there. Sure.  

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We've got a little American couple down here. They're up in Cotacachi.   L And S. They built a business of organic, bought some land, started organic farm, and   they do everything, and it's all organic.   And they started out just selling here in Quito.   In the Quito area, it's about two hours, three hours drive down back, something like down each way.   But, man, their food is so good. They were going to the embassy   once   a month at least. The embassy was buying from them, and they've enlarged over the whole country. Even do if you're down on the coast, they'll   ship air air freight or stuff down there.  

And they've done very, very well, and it's totally organic. And it's L and S Farms, I think, organic farms or something. Lindsey and her husband, Sean, up in Cotacachi,   and,   they've done very well for themselves. And the food is fantastic.   So,  

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I'm studying   is,   Go go ahead, John. I'm studying a book. I just I'm finishing a book up, from Brian.   His name is Nathan Brian, doctor Nathan Brian,   who,   did not discover nitric oxide   but has done the research on   what it is, how it works,   and   what's involved in the in the process in your body. And he's found out that nitric oxide, even though it's a gas, it is very short lived,   but it is is actually a hormone.  

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And  

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most people are killing their nitric oxide because they use mouthwash,   they do fluoride, and they use,   antacids,   you know, all these different Prilosec,   Tagamet, and all that kind of stuff, and Tums.   It kills your ability to convert arginine   into nitric oxide.   Oh. It's a citrulline night   arginine.   If you take citrulline, it converts into arginine, and then arginine is what helps your body create the nitric oxide. Well, they're finding that   if you you've got to you've gotta control your diet and you gotta find out what you're doing by with all these additives killing your body's ability to use the normal process that it's supposed to have. And the research that he's done on nitric oxide is absolutely   unbelievable.  

And so if you're not   getting   all this bad stuff in your body that that reduces your ability,   that's why we have heart problems.   I mean, it's just amazing.  

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Well,   yep. Hopefully, you're taking care of yourself.   I don't go to doctors in   in pretty good shape, and,   get out and exercise. I   walk   a bit, walk up to the bus stop, which is uphill, by the way.   And,   I walk around a lot,   eat pretty good. Try to, anyway. Not perfect, but I try to adhere to it. I told you that guy that I hated down here that bought the Krispy Kreme donut franchise and brought it down here, John.   And,   you know, I curse him every time I   I I take a bite, but,   still, I'm in pretty good shape for my age. So I'm   very blessed. I've been but I've been doing preventative stuff, man. I I saw an inch health insurance in the eighties going up to 300 and something, 4 hundred dollars a quarter, and I said,   I I couldn't afford it back then. You know? It was really taxing on me. And,   because all I was doing was teaching.  

And,   so I'd started,   I cut off the insurance. I started to do eating and be conscious of preventative stuff. It served me well. K? So, anyway, I   I I hope all of you are conscious of your health. It's really important.   Anything else,   going on in The US? Anybody in the audience on question or comment? We've been Don and I doing our little chitchat here today, but touching on some pretty important issues and   and and items.   Anybody got something to add or take away or start another third? Well, in the news right now,  

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banning the guys right there, all of the agencies,   news agencies, all reporting how unfavorable   Trump is.   And,   they were they were rebutting all of that stuff. Did you hear me?  

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Yeah. Yes. I can hear you. Who who who is you? Oh, wow.  

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Hi. My name is Angelo. This is my first time tuning in to the show with you guys.  

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Hey, Angelo. Well, we're not usually what we talk about necessarily, but my old friend John, one of our early students, is on Mondays with me. Nice to meet you. Where where are you, and how'd you find us?  

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So I'm in the state of Florida. I'm originally from Long Island,   and I found you guys on YouTube.   I was watching a YouTube video about how we have   a, we're all issued a dual citizenship.   And I tried to, show this video to my mother.   She is, at the age of 49, and she has no idea   about the corruption   and the,   the shade that has been pulled over all of our eyes.  

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And so my Angelo? Reason for calling today yes. Yes, sir. No. Go ahead. I was just gonna say we've been in Babylonian   captivity   for ninety two years. We're in the ninety second year.   The Israelites way back when were only in Babylonian   captivity for seventy years, so we're already ahead of them. Angelo, nice to meet you. What's your question?  

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Yes. My question is,   what is the best way to go about educating   somebody   about the   dual citizenship,   the naturalization,   you know, everything?   How do I begin to educate somebody on this subject?  

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Educate yourself first.  

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Yeah. That's gotta be it right there. You can't teach it if you don't understand it. And if you really wanna understand it, it sounds like from the tenor of your voice to me that you do,   then start teaching it to others. You'll find out real quickly what you don't understand,   and you go back and brush up on that and plug that hole and go keep and then go back to them or go find somebody new.   We've got kind of a process for you.   I could tell you this. So I think the place that I prefer to start with people in that situation   is what was the first, when the country started? For the first ninety years or so, up to the civil war, there was only one status, and it was the state citizen.  

There wasn't even a district of Columbia   that had any political power. It was just a unit   made up of a lot of different people, I guess, that took care of the items   that were not feasible for the states to handle themselves,   I e. They couldn't all have an ambassador to France, an ambassador to England, an ambassador to Germany.   So the the the the what was construed as the federal government   took care of those things. They couldn't all have their own navy,   etcetera, etcetera,   but they didn't have any political power to bestow on you. It was just a group of people. In actuality,   when you think about it,   I've been messing with this   stuff over thirty three years.  

Those people at that period of time were stateless.   No other state controlled them, gave them their rights, or they had duties to pay to. And the people that weren't   in a function there as a state citizen,   somebody from Virginia or North Carolina doing something there,   then they had a political status, and they had constitutional   protections.   And they got their capital r rights and gave their capital d duties to capital g God.   And then after   the civil war,   they used the black slaves   and saying, what about these people? They and that's justified. There's nothing I can justify about black slavery,   or that type of slavery or any slavery for that matter. But,   they had to give them some way to have a, what's called, a political status.  

And that is from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties.   The people because that's law. Rights plus duties equal remedies.   That little formula right there runs the world. I'll explain it to you later. Not now. That's something you can learn. But,   now we had a second political status   after the fourteenth amendment   and for the blacks mainly, probably not totally.   And,   that was called a federal citizen of The United States,   not a state citizen.   And so   that's what they've done. They created another   secondary   status   on the surface for the blacks   hidden underneath it through   assigning a political   status on where you're born and not who your parents were.  

That's a little, something you'll learn and understand too. Hidden underneath that is the feudal system.   And so   that that's what's going on. They took the state citizens. They bankrupted the country in '33, took over the Federal Reserve and the money and the administration of the country in 1913   forward.   In 1933,   they bankrupted   the country in the bond market,   and that's when Roosevelt   took the gold. Do you remember hearing about that, Angelo,   when Roosevelt took the gold? Yes, sir.   Okay. Well, that's the day they changed the systems.   Before that, we had real money because we are free people.  

After that, when the banks reopen,   we use script like we use today that unbeknownst to us, we're the collateral for. They switched the system to the slavery system on March the ninth of thirty three. Now as I said, hidden under that is the feudal system.   Inside   that system   is a thing called voluntary servitude,   which is legal and lawful in the constitution.   Okay? Because it's not outlawed.   It's legal by omission.   So they switched the systems.   They had the fed the feudal system sitting there waiting with this underneath.   They moved everybody in the country into   a position of being a surety   for that debt,   and the feudal system has what's called the silent contract   that runs generationally.  

So if you your mother and father, as your mother was, she didn't know this stuff, so she was never able to understand how to get out. Okay? So when her and your father had you   because they were in the condition   and had agreed to it. I'll show you that in a minute.   And they had you and you were born into the same condition.   Just like if you have a cow and a bull in the back pasture and they have a calf, it's yours.   Same principle.   So when you're born into it,   all of us, period, since 33,   and we go back and they ask us, Angelo   my mouth's getting dry. Hold on just a second.  

They ask us these questions all our lives.   Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident, Angela?   And you've always answered yes, haven't you?  

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Yes. I have.  

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And then you signed something, didn't you?   Yes.   You agreed to their fraud of putting your our generations generations ago into this condition.   It's been running.   No. Yeah. This this makes me No. No. This makes me deeply,  

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deeply   enraged.  

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And Oh, well, well, well, well share this  

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Yeah. Go ahead.  

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I tried to share this with my mother,   and she tried to convince me   that the system and the bondages that they placed all of us   in is   is okay. She it is justifiable   to my mother   how we're all being   robbed.  

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Oh, well, then if there if she truly has that and she doesn't know the other side to understand what's really going on, that's okay.   You can't force somebody to be free. It's their freedom.   If you try and force them to do it, they're never gonna do it all the way. They're always gonna resent you, and it may cause a relationship   breakup.   So all you can do is put this information in front of people. So like John said, you can't do that if you don't know it. But, there's other things we can put in your hand while you're learning.   But, it's easier to pull a rope than to pull a rope. You gotta put this in front of people and see who it does stimulate to wanna learn more. And   and because there let me give you a quote. Do you know ever heard of a guy, Angelo, named Goethe? Goethe was a German philosopher. He wrote an opera called Faust   about a young man that cut a deal with the devil. Do you have you are you familiar with him?  

I am not familiar with him. No. Well, anyway, I'm gonna give you one of his quotes here and tell me if you think this is accurate.   Watch the adjectives.   There are none so helplessly   enslaved   as those who falsely   believe they're free.   That's where they've got us right there.   K. So   I I I, you all you can do is you present this to somebody   and,   if they you put your plant and seeds even if they don't respond automatically. K? Because now   they've been faced with a choice that they've been living a lie, and some people just can't handle it.   They cannot turn around their world and personal view on this fact that they've lived a lie their whole lives. They have a real hard time with it. And so the best thing you can do with those folks is to plant a seed   and and,   maybe go back and rewater it occasionally if it's somebody close to you that you see and communicate with often. But   let people have gotta come to this. See, this is their power that we've been brought up and lived under is dark power, and dark power to operate   has to reach out and touch somebody.  

This is the matrix.   Because when you interact with this regulatory   group of regulations   put out by man made bureaucrats,   the the net that you don't see. As Morpheus said, you can't see it.   You can't touch it, but you can feel it.   May I? Yes, John.  

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Let me give you my experience because I started with Roger early on, had a lot of problems,   and was working with some local people but didn't have Roger's information.   If you're real excited and you're starting to tell everybody about this stuff, you see the blowback that you just got there with your mother.   I went through years of that, even to the point where my brother-in-law, who's an attorney and an engineer and all that stuff,   reamed my ass at Thanksgiving   dinner in front of the whole family telling us about how much time he wasted checking out my information and it was all false and it doesn't work. And you know that just sent off another red flag for the rest of the family to be glad to my kids can say your shit don't work.   You know?  

And if you if you you're excited and you wanna learn this,   keep your mouth shut.   Start start learning that we got everything here. There's so much here now, especially on the matrix docs page. There's a there's a place for new students to get started.   The handbook, the citizen handbook,   the recordings that are going on,   we now have a   a   platform that generates   the recordings here and also a transcript that you can go over and print off.   And,   everybody here will give you a hand, but if you start running around trying to tell everybody about this without being prepared,   get relegated to  

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you know, they don't want you around. Angela, let me give you an example of what John's talking about. It happened   over a couple years ago. One of California guys gets turned onto this, and, he gets stopped by a California   for some reason, gets pulled over by CAP   and or see California patrol, whatever, and he was videotaping it. And he's sitting there talking to the officer, and he goes, but I'm a nonresident   alien.   Okay.   Yes. That's true, but only true in a certain set of circumstances.   That's the label they put on this politically   free   condition   with the IRS.  

K? And I can show you where it is, explain it all to you and all that. So, yes, he was right in the respect that he is, but only as it refers to the tax code. And you start going and throwing things like that around at people when you don't understand them   and you make yourself look foolish in what we're doing look   not sincere. K? So the   we've got great interviews. I tell you what you do. Go to your mom   and give her a a an interview that's on the web page there   called God's Trump Card.   K? And it's with the badass uncle Sam. I don't know if you know who he is over band.video   in New Orleans,   but he heard the information a few times and interviewed me, and that's what that is. And what I did was spun that around   for a change in the way it's presented.  

And I explained to the listener first   how they're controlling your mind.   Okay? So I think the question you wanna ask your mom   is, first,   do you want to live a lie?  

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Raj, don't do  

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you're gonna get into trouble. She starts doing that. Alright. Well, then I'm just throwing this out to the audience because that's the base question. Do you wanna live a lie? And this video   presents that and shows you how they're controlling your decisions   through your subconscious mind. Yeah. Then after I show you how they've enslaved you, I show you what they've done, and now you can understand it and grasp it better. So it's very effective, I think, one of the most I've done, and just see if she'll watch that. Okay? You don't even have to ask her if she wants to live a lie. Just let her watch that if she will. Yes. Samuel.  

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Yeah. You know,   you probably really wanna get your message together before you tackle family because,   they say Jesus had the hardest time teaching in his hometown.  

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Yeah. You're never the prophet is never a prophet in the hometown. So I do agree with that, but just go off and study in a bit on your own.   I had this problem with my mother. Okay?   And she passed she passed away about a year ago, but I can tell you that the last few years of her life during COVID,   when I'd call her and she'd go, Roger, what's going on? So now it wasn't ridiculing me or us having problems. She'd adopted that I knew what the hell I was talking about. And that's a great feeling. Okay?   Because it really did give us problems. It cost me,   it cost me about a quarter of a million dollars in the in the state when she died. I can tell you that.  



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So that's alright. Okay? Everybody asked everybody asked the question, what's the difference between the two statuses? And there's a website that you can actually go and look at the two differences side by side.   It's called USAversusUS.info.   What the magnitude   of the differences between the two statuses are. It should give you a lot of motivation to to learn this.  

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Adam,   Angelo, I'll show you the two statuses real easy. You have you ever heard of the Jim Crow laws?  

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Yes.  

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I am familiar. That's that that's it. The white guy I was the state citizen, and the black guy was the new federal citizen.   It was a political   difference.   It manifested   itself   ethnically.   Let me give you the And they pushed it that way so they can pit us against each other, which is going on right now. We got some very fine black listeners on the show here today.   Wonderful people. We got no problem with any of that. What I care about is if you wanna be free. If you don't wanna be free, there's nothing I can do to help you. Okay? I'll plant a seed and spray for you. But, otherwise, if you like yourself, like you seem to, man, we could take you and whip you right into shape.  

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Anyway, let me get this on the AI. So it's it's Usa   V S   U S Dot Info.   Okay. And it goes gives you the republic side, and then it gives you the corporate side in a compare direct comparison.   So if anybody don't get discouraged because if it's worth doing, you're gonna wanna be on the republic side and not the other one.  

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Yep.   And, and here's a couple other little tips we've learned over I've been doing this on the air for fourteen years. I've been messing with it personally over '33   or go about to go into the thirty fourth, something like that. And it is accumulation   of more than one hundred years of three men's lives.   My two teachers and me.   Okay? And it's I never had one incident of blowback from the federal government,   not one. In all those the years I've been teaching it since we figured out what it was,   they can't say no.   Your it's your decision   what set of laws you wanna live under, basically.  

When you submit your option, they can't say no, and there's never gonna be a blowback before it. The only what we we've done with this   is figured out a way   to back them into a corner in Checkmate.   They either agree with what we're doing   or else they take the mask off and they're open tyrants, and they know much better than us what happens to open tyrants throughout history.   They hang.   So that's why. We're on very solid footing here.  

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Hey, Ron. This is beautiful information.  

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I can't It's life changing, Angelo.   Yeah. It's life changing.   K? I think it'd be you'll you'll get a second life out of this, and I'll you'll come back, and I'll be your daddy. Okay? The same way that John Benson is my daddy. Alright?   So,   but it's just incredibly   empowering.   You're going to be   given back the power that you were meant to have at birth.   And if if you get into a discussion with people in the big, big picture here,   are are are you biblical, Angelo, spiritual at all?  

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I do believe in God. I do believe in a creator. I do.  

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Okay. Do you understand the   the the the story about Jacob and Esau   at birth   in in the early part of, we were fighting as Esau. Okay? We're under the auspices of Jacob and that lineage.   And what has happened was Esau   sold his birthright to Jacob for, his Bible says, a bowl of porridge   oats. Okay?   And what they've done is figured out a way to steal the birthright back here.   They've set this system up. They've turned everything in an opposite direction. They ask you the two critical questions. Are you a citizen of The United States or a resident? You don't know what they're asking you. You always answer yes, and you sign something. And what you're doing is affirming   all of this stuff they've done up to and since the civil war.  

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Okay? Is it  

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is there truly is there truly a way to become   100%   naturalized?  

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You're not talking about naturalization.   That's bringing somebody in. Anybody that's naturalized   since 1865   is is federally naturalized.   It used to be they naturalized them in the states.   Okay? But after that, it's all gone through the feds, and they've gone back and they've hidden   this state citizen   by calling it a national.   And then they took another one small little island   down in the South Pacific   called American Samoa,   and they brought that island into the federal territory,   but it is unincorporated.   And they are natural rights there. They own their land. If they have an abortion today in American Samoa, they can charge it with murder,   all that stuff, and they're not incorporated.  

They still have natural rights,   and they hide our national   behind them,   which are called noncitizen   nationals   because they can't be   fourteenth amendment citizens.   They have to naturalize   to get into the federal system, but they are in the federal system.   And but that's a that just shows you the links   that they've gone through here to hide this. We'll explain it all to you. I know it's very confusing   when you first get presented with it. Okay?  

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Thank you so much, Roger.  

[01:01:19] Unknown:

Angelo, what part of Florida are you in?  

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I live in,   Spring Hill. It's a smaller town about forty Yeah. Forty minutes north of Tampa.  

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We've got we've got several folks in that area, including Bob Morgan over in Okeechobee, who's one of our old time guys. He's probably listening   today, I would imagine, maybe.   Anyway,   if you want, Angelo, you can shoot me an email   just at, radioranch,nospace,@mail,notgmail,mail.com.   And,   I can put you in touch with at least Bob down there. We got a great guy in Tarpon Springs,   that's, Greek that owns a Greek restaurant there.   We've got another retired,   black guy from Nashville, Retired   right in that area,   Chris, who helped us a lot, a few years ago with an old book John and Glenn wrote. And so there's several folks in that area. Anyway, welcome to the family because that's kinda what we end up being. And,   as you go forward and get these situations   presented that   do confuse you, this is where you get the answers. That was why we come and spend   two hours, six days a week here for folks like you. Okay?  

So don't be scared to ask a question or think you're hogging the show because you're not. We're here for you.  

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Roger, can I ask you something?  

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Yes.  

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What motivates you to do this? To help the   American people to   to help pull the the blinds over their eyes?  

[01:02:57] Unknown:

Well, that's a good question, isn't it? I I do this. I've had the guy, I guess, evaluate   that. It,   I always knew there was something wrong in the world even when I was a kid in the sixties.   All the wars and the assassinations   and all the free love and the drugs and Woodstock and the music and all that stuff. I just knew there was something wrong, and I could never place it for years.   I went into my first marriage, and my wife first wife's brother   was telling me about this meeting called the Bilderbergs   where they they and the Illuminati, and they met and all that stuff. That's the first clue I had. And then I don't know how many years or so later, six or seven in ninety two,   I was doing network marketing things.  

And, somebody said, do you know income tax is illegal?   And I said, no. Come on. That couldn't be no. We've got a tape. We've got this tape. And I said, well, get it. I'll I'll watch it.   And, that was the tape that changed my life   in this direction, and that was on July sixteenth   of nineteen ninety two.   I remember the exact day because I went back and checked, and it I I watched half of it, and and then Bill Clinton was about to give his first acceptance speech, and I wanted to see that. So I cut the tape off. It was on a Thursday night,   didn't get back to it until Saturday morning.  

And, when I finished watching the back half of that, and I said,   if they're screwing us this bad, what the hell else is happening that we don't know about? And that's why we're here.   Because it was shortly after that, I came across my teachers in the short six month window that they were teaching.   Our guy the law guy here is named John w Benson,   and he just studied the law his whole adult life because he just loved it. And then he got particularly interested in contract law, and then he got particularly interested in tax law and found a way   where you could change your status and tie the Internal Revenue Service   regulations   and go back and apply for the last three years of taxes   that you'd paid in. And they're supposed to give them back to you. And that's who I stumbled on. And after they got raided pretty promptly,   you didn't think the federal government moved moved that fast for anything,   especially   over thirty years ago. Okay?  

And, within months. Okay? And,   so after that,   I just kept researching. I never I wasn't there to avoid taxes.   They had here you go, Angelo. Here's where we are.   They had 1,200   students in six months.   We paid to go through the course. Okay? $1,500.   Alright?   And then   out of those 1,200,   after they got rated,   I was the only one that took this further.   And if it wasn't for my sheer determination   and curiosity and   somebody grabbed me somewhere,   and,   I stumbled on it   in 09/2007   on The Ultimate Answer   when I was told by a little voice to leave the country.   And I was moving to Argentina.  

I've made that decision,   and I'd never had a passport before.   And I had to interface with the federal government and get a passport   to do that. And when I picked up the instructions,   passport application at the post office back then and brought them home and started to read them. And the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years was at the top of the first page.   And that's why we're here.   K.  

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Wow.  

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Yeah. It's quite a story. There's a lot more   episodes in the background, but it's a it's some sort of a divine project because   it's had so many of these touches,   of divinity to it along the three men's lives. It it's   it's pretty incredible if you listen to them. And,   and here we are. Now why do I do it?   I don't wanna do it for your money because I don't care about your money, Angel. I want you to have your quote, unquote money. First of all, it's not money. It's debt. So correctly, it's currency. So I don't want any of your currency.   I wanna fulfill,   what's called the watchman on the wall   prophecy in the Old Testament. And it says if you're a watchman on the wall and if you see danger coming and you don't tell your fellow man, the blood's on your hands. But if you tell them and they ignore it, then the blood's on their hands. And I'd rather the blood be on their hands than mine.  



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Let me help him with something here, Raj. Yeah. If if you he's gonna wanna really talk about this.   One of the things that grabbed me for discussion   is all my life, I always wanted to know why I always had to answer the questions on everything I filled out. Are are you a citizen? Are you a resident?   I never could understand. I said, don't they know me by now? I mean,   how come I gotta keep answering that question?   And then tied that in with the fact of the other. So if you wanna   start finding   like minds,   use that website I gave you.  

Use the question. How come you have to sign every time you sign a piece of paper, they ask you if you're a citizen of The United States   and a resident.  

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Yeah. And and here's even a better secondary question.   A resident aware, they don't ask you of the state, do they? Isn't that what they're asking you? Mhmm.  

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Well, he just he's just he he he needs to get a positive response here.   Citizen of The United States or the citizen of The United States Of America?   And, you know, don't tell him anything. Just ask questions. Don't give him any information.   Yep. And then see if they've got an interest in that information.   And then just say, you know, I found this, and I'm looking at this. Why don't you check this out with me? Right. Angelo, where did you find us originally, did you say? You know, where in the I originally a forum? Originally found you guys,  

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from a YouTube video, and I could probably go back because it wasn't very long ago.   Oh. It was the   the, did you know you had a dual citizenship video?  

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Is that Presley?  

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Probably.  

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We this we were talking about Presley. Yeah. We were talking about Presley, the kid that made that earlier in the show. Did you know he was 18 years old?  

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17.  

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17.  

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USA national guide. Yeah. I watched that video, US National slash State Citizen   Comprehensive Guide, Noncitizen   National.  

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That's a very sharp young man in Southern California named Presley.   And we had his mother, Sonny, on the show and him years ago.   And as I said earlier, his mother, Sonny, said, hey. I got two young younger boys who are sharper than he is.   So there's hope. There's hope, Angelo.  

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I am only 24, so maybe maybe I'm a little late to this. Oh, fan oh, man. Oh, hell.  

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We love you, buddy. Oh, I I thought you said you were 41 earlier, or I'm getting you mixed up with somebody else.   24. Well, Angelo twenty four.   Well, good good on you, man. Well, glom onto this information.   Go, you go to the website,   and there's a special section there called the new student section.   And, there's some really   good impactful   audio interviews there.   That that one,   that I suggested earlier, God's trump card, it's video, which I normally doesn't do. He he was controlling it. So,   and, there's another one there that was done originally back shortly after I got into this years ago   by a,   a veterinarian,   named, just   it's called War and Emergency Powers, and it's doctor,   Eugene Schroeder is his name. And it was   a research group of about 10 people that did that. It's a two hour video. He's got over 85 exhibits   in there, and he shows you what happened   on March   the ninth of nineteen thirty three. He doesn't   know it was the feudal system and all that, but they've got all the legal proof and everything else there. That's a very good foundational video that you should watch at some point.  

And don't try and hurry it unless you're just really motivated and driven.   Take it one bite at a time and try and work on concepts.   In other words, learn   learn what the Babylonian merchant code is, for example,   and learn about the feudal system and learn about some of the history in the civil war. You learn some of this legal information that, by the way, they don't teach in law schools anymore and haven't for decades.   Real important legal concepts   that my teacher learned as he studied the law throughout his lifetime because he went back to the old law   before they started restructuring things.  

And I can prove to you that they've been in control of the American Association   of Colleges and Law Schools   for,   at least almost a hundred years.   And that control had   to involve taking some of these really important concepts,   which used to be taught and are still taught in other parts of the world, but they don't teach kids going through law school in The US today. And we can prove that to you. Okay? So, anyway, yeah, I think you found a cool home if this is what you're looking for.   And at 24, you would lead almost a a whole adult life of freedom, which would be  

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fantastic for you, and I'd love to see you do it. One other caution, Raj. Yes, John. Go ahead. You know, you got all these people out there nowadays. They they weren't around when when you were teaching this stuff. We had to search through our BN archives and stuff to find these people teaching about their method of getting free.   Roger has the best way directly through   working with the federal government to claim your proper status.   All these other people are aggressive, argumentative,   combative.   Wanna charge you? And you're gonna see these guys, you know, argue with police on this side of the road. That's the way it's done. You know, they're arguing.   It's crazy.  

Get yourself protected.   Learn Rogers' system cold   first.   Simplest, easiest thing to do and absolutely notifies the government of your proper status. They have to give it to you. They can't avoid not giving it to you. And then if you wanna go look at what these other people are talking about,   judge it by something. Because otherwise,  

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it's gonna confuse the hell out of you. Believe me. Yeah. I know. I don't know if you've been messing around in the patriot movement or not before, but there's an awful lot of mythology   and maybe   outright disinformation   out there   of but all those people, I'm not telling them they're bad people. I just understand that what we have here is what all those people are looking for, which is a direct way to connect the dots that works as accurate and truthful.   So that is what they're missing. And, boy, to get some of those ideas out of people's heads   is very difficult. Yes. Who was Roger in right there?  



[01:14:43] Unknown:

That was Scotty from New York.   Hello, everybody. I just wanted to add a couple of things there,   because, things happen   when the younger generation,   can get on-site.   What I would suggest   everybody   go find that video and like it and share it and try and get it into the, whatever you call it, the, fee, you know, to make stuff work so other people could get it, to get more people here. And two,   I put a good link in the chat for for you, John. I I really gotta talk to you because my motor burnt out of my wand. And three,   I'd suggest   that this new guy, Angelo, in Florida,   check out,   the episode that's in the matrixdocsdot,   with that site,   with John   John d from RBN with Roger Sales. He really explains   in a nutshell John Dee. Everything in that show.  



[01:15:38] Unknown:

And That's a good one.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt, Scotty. I just   Tom   Dee comes to okay. We he, joins us occasionally. He's not with us today, obviously. Obviously. He runs another radio network, and he'd been researching this stuff ten years longer than I'd have. And when I finally got his attention, we got a chance to sit down and explain it to him, and he goes, this is what I've been looking for for forty years. Okay? So there's experienced people with that kind of an opinion   and,   just take baby steps,   start thinking in terms of concepts.  

In other words, Angelo, if I if you take a a a young child, five, six, seven years old, and you go give him a a a puzzle with   16 pieces versus one with 1,500,   which one's he gonna put together fastest? Of course, a stupid rhetorical question. So the concept way of understanding this and seeing how they interact together and not just trying to throw it all up against the wall and start picking pieces out,   is a good approach.   And, you're we're right here for you. Here, I'll be everybody here either directly   with us live,   or listening later or on to archive or podcast,   in the archives.  

We all wanna help you.   If you wanna take this path, we all want you to succeed. And the reason that is is because when you   come down and join us, we get stronger.   K? Roger? And see, yes. And the bad guys can't they are scared of us just as ignorant serves.   Woah. You get under this degree of knowledge, understanding,   and having your power back, and, woah, they stand silent. The I'll just a second, Julie. The biggest, baddest, some bitches that have ever walked the face of the earth, when you present them with this, they stand silent.  

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I need to tell Scotty. Scotty, I I'm not in the chat. I'm on Zoom.  

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So you need to call me. Just call me. Call him. Call him. Phone number's on the website, Scotty. Okay? Now, miss Julie, congratulations   on the big win last night.  

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Thank you. Hey. First, I just wanted to say, hey, Angelo. Welcome to the group. I'm one of the relatively newer students, and this place is the place to be. So you've come   to the the best place. We're like one big family.   And the other thing I wanted to ask you is what video did you watch? I would like to go back and watch that video on YouTube that you discussed on how you found Roger. Do you know the name of it again? I'm sorry. I  

[01:18:20] Unknown:

Yeah. So give it to her again. I've forgotten what it is, Angelo,   if if you can remember.   Angelo, are you there? Anybody help, Julie?  

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I Hey, guys. I'm sorry about that. I'm I am at work. Yes. That's okay.   Alright. So the video alright.   The video that I found you guys from was   US national forward slash state citizen   comprehensive   guide. That YouTube video was was by USA National Guide. That's the YouTuber's channel name.  

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What's the YouTube channel's name guy's name again? Sorry.  

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USA National Guide  

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Oh, okay then. Channel. Okay. Alright. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And, again,   Angelo, you're not alone when it comes to frustration. And,   I guess,   I don't like to use the word anger, but anger, I was the same way as you. And I still have those emotions going through my brain   daily just from I going down the rabbit hole and finding something new every day that, you know, they've done to us to,   steal,   lie or   thief us   steal the lie or,   whatever, take from us. But, anyway,   this is the best place to be.   So, you have Roger,   on the cap game. It was a great game, and, I got tickets to go on Wednesday night. So I'm really excited. I have I'm very jealous.  



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I'm very jealous. If you were here, I would if you were here, I would stay with me. Well, I would if I was there, I'd love to go, and I'd accept that. So, anyway, I'll be watching. I can tell you. So talking about the Washington   Capitals and the Montreal   Canadiens   on the there   may be the winning game for Washington in this first round. Yes. Samuel.  

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No. It's Larry. Samuel?  

[01:20:19] Unknown:

Oh, Larry.   We do kinda sound alike. Go ahead.  

[01:20:23] Unknown:

I know we do.  

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Tell Julie that I,   sorry. I sent her the link to that video by Presley.  

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Okay. And Larry's right there in Florida too. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Larry. I got it. Thank you so much. Uh-huh. Thank you. He's a he's a a a package delivery guy and out on his route every day joining us. So,   he's pretty pretty close to Spring Hill area.  

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Listen. On Presley's on Presley's page, on the front page, it says noncitizen national. He's he's he needs to fix that. Oh, he does. Yes. He does.  

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But, you know, I didn't understand about the American Samoans until after the book was written.   And that's just another blocking agent. It just shows you a little bit more of these guys' real personality   and how devilish and deceitful they are.   His plan's straight from hell.   K?   So, anyway, they trick you into volunteering into your servitude. That's why they ask you those questions. Are you there are you still in that condition? Yep. Okay. Well, hey, man. He ought to know Angelo ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, is it?   He ought to know he's a damn serf.  

That's the mindset you're slaving Roger? Masters are your former almost to be. Yes. Larry?  

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Yeah. I think it was the,  

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I beat you, though.  

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I was just gonna say that video that Presley put out is over two years old, and it's still bringing you students. So you could charge the, the account. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Oh, he's working. I was wondering if John.  

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I'm sorry. I was wondering if John I thought I heard him talking to somebody's background. So I just think he's still at work somewhere. Go ahead, Samuel.  

[01:22:18] Unknown:

I was wondering if John would give a little background on that. Who's behind that web that he gave out? USA v,   US?   Who is this?  

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John, do you know? You know, I I don't remember, but he's been a guy that's kind of in the patriot community,   for a long time.   Oh, he's over in Arizona.   And,   I've I've always appreciated that page that he did because it's very detailed.  

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Well, the first thing I noticed, and I don't know if you agree or not, on how he   how he capitalized   the original,   United States   scenarios there that he gives. So,   he's got v capitalized   United   lowercase state lowercase and   of America, America, upper case. I was just wondering if   you looked at that.  

[01:23:13] Unknown:

No. I didn't. And a lot of these people that do some of these things, just like Presley here, he's got noncitizen   national in its titles and on his on his   page main page,   which we know that that's an American Samoan. That is not what we're talking about.  

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And it also says state citizen to, state national also.  

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Yeah. But remember,   he was really just really new, but this he went off taking our classes and bam. Look what he put. He just needs to tighten it up.  

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Yeah. Well, that's why I teach, learn the information in some of these little things   that innocuous as they are are are kind are important, you know, because you've got to convey. They've tricked us with incredible specificity,   and we've gotta untrick it and teach it to others with that specificity   involved.   That's how they've got us. Are you a citizen of The United States?   Well, that is fraud in itself because they don't give you the other option, which is our national.   Because they'd hidden it in a supreme court case called Brown v Birch Board of Education.   Angelo, you don't have to learn this all at once. We'll teach you gradually.  

Bite off and chew on   what you can deal with. Okay?   Yes. Now Julie here again, I believe that's Julie. Right?  

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Yeah. Hi.  

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Okay, Julie. Why don't you view from,   Julie's pretty sharp check here, Angela. Okay?   And,   she's only been around about six months or so. And from your standpoint, why don't you explain to him   what you've gone through and your perspectives here, if you would?  

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Well, a lot of education. It's like getting another degree all over again and realizing that the degree that you've got,   at least for me, in my opinion, are pretty worthless.   But,   I   once I found about out about the phone number,   and the call that takes place six days a week, I just don't ever miss one.   I've I scheduled meetings around this time frame because that's how valuable it is to me, and everybody in this group has been so nice and so helpful.   We stay on after the show, and it's just I've just been nothing but a positive experience for me. So I thank Roger and all of the people who are on here   for everything. I mean, it I just can't   there's no words to express, and I'm not getting paid for this. So   but,   it's amazing, Angelo.  

So you should try to come on here. And if you can't be on, there's always recordings that, Paul, he's amazing with the,   pod Podbean and or PodHome and all of the videos. He does all of the editing, and he does all of the recordings, and they're always available.   So the matrixdocs.com   is one of the best sites, and also nationalstatus.info   has a slew of information. And then what John just said, Usa versus   Us. Info. I just I love that site, John. I just got on that. That's in   a boatload of information.   And then,   of course, Roger's book,   From Sovereign to Surf is is super duper good to read because that has all the cases in it, and it it it was the original book of John Benson   and Glenn what's Glenn's last name? Arb Arb Arbore. Amborch.  

Amborch. Yeah. So it's really good. And and, Roger, I wanted to tell you, I just got the book yesterday by Carol Quigley,   Tragedy and Hope. Hope. I can't put it down. It's just over 1,300   pages long. Right. Right. It's like a it's like a idea.  

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Right. And and for those who might not know about that, that Quigley was Bill Clinton's favorite   professor at Georgetown. And when I watched that video that night and turned it off to go watch Bill Clinton, it was in that speech that he gave him all that credit, Quigley.   And so Quigley was a member of this bunch,   and they let him in for two years to go through their archives.   So anything you read in there is absolute   gospel and, you know, un unreproachable.   Now he   agreed with them on the plan,   but his difference with them is he thought it ought to be public.   And, you know, isn't that an interesting,   of  

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of of the Hutzpah  

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attitude   of, yeah, we'll put it out there public, and there'll be so many of these dumb goy that they'll prefer   to be in that pink cloud of slavery.  

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Okay?  

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Yeah. Great question, Julie. If you're if you're gonna read when you when you get to that point, you'll hit a part in there when he's talking about the financial stuff.   And the Right. The quote is I used to have links to those quotes, and I've lost them. The quote is the world's financial   leaders met   in secret   annually   or in a regular schedule   to   to shape the world's financial   system   in a feudalist   fashion.   Well, I dare say you can't have a world financial system shaped in a feudalist fashion without serfs.   So  

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Yeah. Please. In reference to the creature from Jekyll Island, Roger? No. It's, the Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope.  

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Roger?   I know Angelo's at work, and he might be muted. But, Angelo, you, can Roger's book, From Sovereign to Surf or or,   Benson's book, sorry,   is not available anymore,   for purchase on the website. So you can get it for free as a PDF book from Right.nationalstatus.com.   It's in a PDF,   from the whole home page. You'll just have to print it and bind it. That's an excellent book. I I Well, hopefully, hopefully, we'll have it back up on print on demand  

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here quickly.   Why do you say? Why do you get Oh, god. You don't even want to John don't, John.  

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Okay. Alright.  

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Goodbye, guy.   Yeah. Hey, Mark. Not expecting you around today, Angelo. Hey, Roger. This is kinda This is one of our good loyal listeners, and my side hip here, a paralegal named Mark.   So, Mark, introduce yourself to our new kid, Angelo, here at 24 years old.  

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Alright. Well, Angelo, what a great time to find us. I wish I had this information when I was 24.   1999,   I was,   I guess, in my late   late thirties.   Excuse me. Late twenties or early thirties.   And,   I just had come across a gentleman by the name of Dan Meador,   who,   Roger was familiar with and   had crossed paths with, but we didn't know anything about the national or excuse me, how to acquire   the national status. My mentor,   Dan Madder, had written about being a national,   but, again, none of us knew how to officially acquire that citizenship status.   So, you know,   there there's just a mercy and a lot   of patriot baloney   mythology.  

Everybody trying to figure how to, you know, trying to figure out how to get untangled   from this federal beast, especially when it comes to taxes. I mean,   when I was 16 and had my first paycheck, which I'd already looked at, I get paid this much an hour, and I I got this many work hours, and I already had my check figured out, and I had it spent.   And then I get my check, and it's about a, you know, it's about a quarter   taken off of it. I was like, well, what's going on here? And they'd taken out everything including Social Security, federal tax, state tax. And I immediately thought, well, what's the difference between that and slavery?   You know, what's the difference?  

And no. No. Well, it's like I said the other day. We went to especially with the black community. The black community went from the southern plantation to the federal plantation.   Yep. And a little easier to manage using the IRAs.   So,   anyway,   what I'm just gonna   is you can download Brooker's book   from nationalstatus.info.   National status Info or nationalstatus.com   will get you there.   And towards the bottom of the page, right in the center,   is the digital version of Roger's book. It's really easy to access.   Also on nationalstatus.info,   if you go to the little right near the top, right below the   banner   with the American flag,   right below that it says search nationalstatus.info.  

If you'll type in handbook,   handbook,   the next page will be a search result for,   Devin's,   citizenship handbook. And give me just a second. I'll read the title off to you.   It's called a national citizenship   handbook.   A   national   citizenship   handbook.   I highly recommend downloading that as the reference tool.   Read through it step by step.   And of course, the whole website, nationalstatus.com   is   is fantastic. Just   they've got step by step learning center.   They've got a forum.   And then when you wanna learn, like, when you're ready to to   file your affidavit and go through the notices,   they have a heading called the remedy, and it's got everything from a to z there   on how to acquire   your official national status, how to put different agencies on notice, how to put the IRS on notice, and so forth, and   how to how to file proper documents with your employer so that you get the stop the tax withholding.  

So,   very cool website. And then also you got I I I'd be amiss if I didn't mention   Mirka's channel.   She's got a national or a telegram channel called National Status Freedom.  

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So that's the Got about 500. Form? Yeah. About 500 people over there. So you got instant resources. And by the way, all these people have set these things up on their own. I didn't tell them to do it. They wanted to contribute.   They've all taken a different approach. We have all these different tools for you to use, a little three folder handbook that Gary and Gina,   put together. You can download and print and just hand out, asking people questions and showing the differences. And we've got a lot of tools for you, Angelo, so   take a deep breath. You don't have to learn it all at one time. You're still young. And I echo exactly what Mark said. I wish the hell I'd had this information   when I was 24 years old. What line of work is Angelo? Yeah. That's what I was wondering too. What kind of work are you doing, Angelo?  



[01:34:33] Unknown:

I'm currently an HVAC technician. I've been doing HVAC for four years now. Oh, okay. Great.  

[01:34:39] Unknown:

Uh-huh. It's a good industry. One of the things I like to say about your Florida.  

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You wouldn't do real well in Ecuador. You do great in Florida. Go ahead, Mark.  

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Yeah. One one thing I'd like to add to that, Angelo, is   be really cautious   because   I say you found the holy grail here. I got away from all the patriot mythology, and you get all these other people promoting   different,   I don't know, programs.   They don't know Roger stuff. I constantly get people ask me, well, do you know about this person? Do you know about that person? And and so, like, they're all asking for, you know, they're all hunting for the same thing when Roger's given it to us on a silver platter.   So be very conscious about getting wrapped up in some of the the patriot mythology and all these other people chasing chasing the   the   the holy grail, and Roger's given it to us. So   I that'd be one of my biggest pieces of devices.  

And and like Roger touched on it earlier is get your foundation here.   You can get your foundation here. Don't worry about yeah. Well, you don't have to spend thousands of dollars from other people trying to make a buck.   That's one thing that we really don't do here is,  

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you.  

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Have to. And then I look here says, how can I charge you for your freedom?   You know? Wow. Now some of us have services that we charge for,   that that if you went to anybody, you'd end up getting charged for.   As far as getting your freedom   and learning this process   and and making a big change in your life,   there's no charge for that.  

[01:36:28] Unknown:

Well, there is disrespect.   You need to internalize the information and make it yours the best you can. Right. There's a lot of reasons for that. First, because there's a direct correlation   between   how good a command you have with this information   and your degree of freedom.   Because if you get challenged and you can't defend your position, you ain't real damn free, are you?   K?   So you wanna learn it first for that so you can defend your position.   Be a as one of the great judges learned and said,   paraphrasing,   you   to defend one's rights, one must be a belligerent   claimant. But you gotta be belligerent. You're gonna claim these rights, and I'll show you how important they are. There's only two   big sets of people in an organized society   in the entire history of our planet that have ever had them. That was the first two hundred years of Rome and the first two hundred years of our country.  

That's the only people in history in an organized society in a you know, like we would envision that have been truly free under god given rights. So from that element alone,   it's important. It should be obvious.   Okay? Then the other things that get you out of all administrative   agencies, state or federal,   they accept those two sections of the Internal Revenue Code, very obscure.   None of those   regulations apply to you anymore.   So there's some real big things here. What we've discovered   is this is in the big, big picture.   This is the absolute   tip   of the power root of power   of the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.  

This is how they've gotten all the powers, you to answer those questions   and give them your individual power, and we did it collectively.   And now they've got the power. Well, it's got to be voluntary servitude.   That's the only one that's constitutional.   Take it away.   You this is how simple, Angelo, it is to get rid of it. And this is from a state department website.   I, Angelo, in Spring Hill, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national   and not a citizen of The United States. You don't even have to get it notarized.   It's better to, but you could send in that sentence, sign it as a declaration   to the secretary of state, and you removed yourself from the federal system.  

Bam. And they can't say a word   about it because, otherwise, if they do, they're open tyrants.   If they tell you what you are, they're open tyrants.   That's why they ask you those questions.   Now you've reversed that. We understand what they're doing, and we go in and volunteer ourselves out of servitude.   And they have to recognize it. And on top of that, it's fraud, the layer and layer and layer of fraud. That's the other reason. It's a contract, one you might not recognize ordinarily,   but that's what you're doing is breaking that contract on fraud and volunteering out of their slave system, and they can't say no.   How about that?  



[01:39:46] Unknown:

You would just notify the secretary of state   via letter and   that would be it?  

[01:39:52] Unknown:

Yep.   Now of The US No. Florida. Not   Florida.   And then you take now do you have a passport, Angela?   No, sir. Well, you're about to get one.   And you go and,   do a d s 11,   and you pay $30,   and you answer the simple questions correctly,   and you include your a copy of your affidavit in with that package, and then you'll get the highest form of ID issued by the federal government, and it'll have your new affidavit and status attached. How about that?  

[01:40:29] Unknown:

Wow.   I don't I don't even know what to say. It,   I've been researching this topic for   nowhere near as long as you have. You've spent, you know, multiple decades in this field, and I'm just I'm just   getting into it six months ago,   is when I first started getting into it. And I I'm looking into the gold clause and and,   the accordant satisfactions and dual citizenships. And there's just so much information, and it seems so complicated   that they built this system so   foreign that they do not want us to find out how to yes. It's so complicated. They do not want us to figure out how to   dis you know, disassociate   from their system that they put us in bondage.  



[01:41:17] Unknown:

Well, you put yourself in bondage. They set up the opportunity. That's fraud part of it.  

[01:41:19] Unknown:

They set up the opportunity.   That's the fraud part of it. But you volunteered and then with the I look at it this way. You say, are you a citizen of The United States? Hey, Angela. Are you still in a condition of servitude voluntary under the fourteenth amendment? And you go, yes. And then are you a resident is, do you give us the right to govern you in that capacity?   Yes. And then you sign something. We'll take it away.   It was voluntary. They tricked you.   Esau Edom stole his birthright back.   I know it's overwhelming, man,   and you're getting the benefit. See, when I got exposed to this so many years ago, we didn't have all these answers. We had a bunch of tax answers, but nothing along these lines.  

And now we got these answers, and some young man like you can tap in here. And in the course of about an hour or so,   get his mind blown   and his life changed.  

[01:42:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Be very careful about chasing right now, you need to get your foundation.   And so the cord and satisfaction   and,   offset and discharge, discharge, all that stuff. I'd really put all that on the back burner   and,   you know, look at Roger's materials,   his digital book. Now we're working on getting a physical copy available again,   but you could download the the digital version on nationalstatus.com.   And then Devin's handbook. You can just work your way through Devin's handbook, you know, just a page or two at a time   and get your get your foundation there. And then, of course, the nationalstatus.com,   the education center that they have, you can go through that. And it's little bite sized classes   all the way through. That's very well thought out, and, I highly recommend it.  



[01:43:16] Unknown:

Yep.   Yep. Well, we'll change for our new friend?   Yes. Our your life will change. This is Dan. He's one of our newer students. It's Dan. Hey, Dan. What what would you say, what what would you say to young Angela? Nugget for for our young new friend here. Hey. Thanks for coming.  

[01:43:34] Unknown:

The,   don't worry about being mad.   Go through your anger process. You sort of gotta live through it. Don't try to quell it at first. Just don't make any rash decisions. No decisions made in anger. That's sort of common sense in a marriage, and it's common sense here.   Yeah. And then, and then as far as the complexity goes, don't worry about the complexity. Just keep dreaming that you're free, And you'll keep listening. Yeah. They're simple. And you'll find you'll find the complexities. You don't have to worry about what we're saying,   as it relates to all the complexities. Just recognize that that the simple part that you do have, which is why you're pissed, is totally true.  

Just like where the hell is it at? And   one of the earlier callers said, just ask questions of people.   Yeah. You'll find a way. Just ask a question here or there, and you'll see who perks up.  

[01:44:22] Unknown:

And that's about You know the But don't worry about people pissed. I'm pissed.   Yeah. When you're when you're first exposed to this, it's almost like you found out your spouse has been cheating on you, you know, in a sense. Oh, man. And what I've found over the years for everybody   is, spirituality.   There's highs and lows, especially at the start as you go through these emotional changes and realize what you've been dealing with and how bad you've been lied to and fooled. And then the spirituality   kind of severs up the peaks and the troughs,   and makes it kinda like, in the middle. It at least takes away some of the severity   of either swing to me because you can take any aspect of this and trace it straight back to the bible.  

Straight. Yep. And you asked me why I did this earlier also, Angelo.   I consider it a sort of a ministry.   I I'm not out preaching Christianity   to you, but I'm showing you how you've been enslaved   and showing you the how it collects and and reflects in the Bible, and all the lessons are there.   And the more you see that over and over again,   you know, the even old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then, you know, and realizes that, wow, there's something real serious here. So I used to tell people I found Satan through the internal revenue code.   K? Yeah. Which is pretty pretty true. K?  

Concur. Yes. So somebody try and say something there? Was that a female?  

[01:45:50] Unknown:

No. That was it. I  

[01:45:52] Unknown:

Roger.  

[01:45:54] Unknown:

Yes, sir.  

[01:45:55] Unknown:

God bless you, Roger.  

[01:45:57] Unknown:

Who's that? My my British accent. It's Scotty again. I just wanted to add,   actually, to reinforce.   Dude, I'm a plumber. I'm an emergency plumber. Listen to the plumber. Watch the RBN episode with with Roger. He explains   every freaking thing you'll be a freaking expert in two hours. Just watch the website. That's what did it for me. After studying Okay. This and that and this gibberish and that   That right there, that did it for Scotty. Okay? I can feel you. And Paul Beaner,   answer my friend request on Facebook that dude that called you an idiot is gonna be a speaker tomorrow night on the Republic.   Okay?  

I yield. Oh, and Alright. Thank you.   Sean Sean Paul Reyes just made a really big accomplishment. That's what I was saying before. Everybody like and get that video even though that's, you know, old information.   You wanna get into the what is that that have, you know, the computers suggest it? The deal is Sean Paul Reyes just kicked butt in Suffolk County. He appeared in court. He did a video. And, like, in twelve hours,   they got so many responses   that they're dismissing the case on it, dude. So I'm trying to tap on to,   things going on right now  

[01:47:11] Unknown:

to tap into them. I yield. Okay. Alright. Thank you, Scotty. Who else has something to add here? Wanna talk to young Angelo? Give him some encouragement or tips?  

[01:47:24] Unknown:

I would just wondering what I was wondering what RBN interview that was   or the RBN What's Scotty? Tom d. Scotty what was that called? Tom d. Oh, with Tom d? Because uh-huh.  

[01:47:36] Unknown:

Alright. And is that on the link on the matrix docs? It is. It's there on matrix docs. Thank you. Thank you. It was good because Tom's running RBN, you know, over there. So he just said, look. Clear all the spots. We got two hours. I wanna go into this in-depth.   He had also been studying this ten years longer than I have.   And,   so when he saw it, he immediately saw it. You didn't have to get into it very far, and he saw it very quickly. I'll tell you another one where that happened was John b Wells.   John b Wells got this real quick too,   but he's never done anything with it subsequently.  

And, unfortunately, it's things like he's a very close friend to Roger Stone's,   where, you know, I would have hoped that would have gone further. Maybe it still will. We'll see. Don't know about that. I can't control that, but I can control me. And I'm here two hours a day with these wonderful people,   six days a week where we discuss these things   and no interruptions where we can get into   very meant to be confusing things and explain them to people.   Because it's like Alice. It's like Alice said. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it isn't because everything would be what it is. And in that way, it wouldn't be what it is, you see?   Well, there's your upside down world from Alice. Yes.  



[01:49:02] Unknown:

Yeah. It's Dave.   I just wanna throw my 2¢ in here for,   Angelo.   Angelo, welcome.   I'm blind,   and,   and I saw right through this when Roger pointed it out.   It's really not that difficult. If a blind guy can can do it, anybody can do it.   Don't be afraid of it. And I don't know if anybody's mentioned this. I've had to take a couple of calls, but   I think Mark Twain said,   it's easier to fool a man than it is to convince him that he's being fooled.   Or even tell him. Take that to heart. And,   you know,   there's a lot of people being fooled,   and you'll never turn them around.  

But, yeah, we keep trying.  

[01:49:52] Unknown:

So that's all I got here. Thank you, Dave. Here's another good one for you, Angelo, on these little,   quotes. This was from, Harriet Tubman. I don't know if you were taught who she is. She ran a thing called the Underground Railroad in the Civil War era to move slaves,   to freedom. And her statement is, I freed a thousand slaves,   and I could have freed thousands more   if they only knew   they were slaves.   Still true today   and not just your black slaves. Yes. There's Larry. Yes, sir.  

[01:50:34] Unknown:

This is Yeah. Angelo  

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seemed pretty intrigued about   how one sentence   to one guy   on one sheet of paper could get him out of the federal system. Let him know how   there's all these affidavits out there that are fifteen, twenty, 30 pages long   Or more. And they've made it complicated. And they charge these people that put these out, they charge hundreds, if not thousands of dollars   to supposedly get you free.  

[01:51:02] Unknown:

Well, see, it's the thing is they wanna charge you that money, and they've gotta give you something that big to justify what they charged you in your mind to them.   Somebody was trying to say something a second ago. Who is that?  

[01:51:17] Unknown:

Oh, that was,  

[01:51:18] Unknown:

me, Roger William. William. Hey, man. I sent you something this morning. Did you get it?  

[01:51:24] Unknown:

Oh, I haven't checked my email yet. I'll check-in a bit here.  

[01:51:27] Unknown:

I sent you last night's Barnes I sent you last night's Barnes episode. Go ahead.  

[01:51:33] Unknown:

Oh, okay. Okay. Great. I'm I'm listening to it. No. I'm just gonna expand on what you had said about Harriet Tubman because there were there were I think it was a million of slaves in the South,   and she only freed 300 slaves.   So that was that's interesting that that, you know, that that the phrase I used that phrase earlier, but the numbers are astounding. I mean, only 300 people were freed out of the millions of slaves that were in the South Yeah. Because they didn't know they were slaves.   But, anyway, I don't know. Angelo,  

[01:52:00] Unknown:

William here is, one of our newer listeners. So him and his very impressive   26 year old son about your age named Savion,   who I wanted to compliment you on, William, how good a job you did raising him. It's pretty obvious from the conversation we had, and he lives right there close to you, Angelo.   He's right in that area too. I don't remember exactly where you are, William. But, anyway, we're glad to have you and and your your family, your son, whoever else.  

[01:52:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Tony. And, now my son is up at Tony's on too.   Tony's in Florida, and I'm in Florida, but my son is up in so say that you in the   up near Newark, New Jersey up up near New Jersey. Oh, you're right. Uh-huh. Okay.  

[01:52:44] Unknown:

Well, I just thought in our conversation, he was exceptionally sharp like Angelo here. And, and I couldn't think of who else to give credit to but you, William, for that.  

[01:52:57] Unknown:

Thank you, Angelo.  

[01:52:59] Unknown:

K.   So,   anyway, Angela, there's another contingent. We got   we even had American Samoans on here. We had a guy, Tully,   out of Arizona who's lived up here for thirty years,   worked in Arizona. They take taxes out and everything else   even though he's exempt from them, and he didn't know all these differences.   And it turns out that his family in American Samoa   are one of the chief families on the island and are next   in line to control the government.   They the people that   administered the government in American Samoa   get their position by how much land they own.  

So there is the direct opposite, and what they did to hide them was they unincorporated   them. They never incorporated them. So the incorporated   DC government where they would normally be fourteenth amendment citizens at birth   doesn't apply   because they can't be.   They're nationals, but they're noncitizen   nationals   because they can't be natural born fourteenth amendment citizens.   That's how they separated them, and then they hide us, the national, behind them. These people have gone to   unbelievable   lengths   to do this.   They never thought anybody would figure it out, and almost   that was true. Yes, sir.  



[01:54:26] Unknown:

Yeah. This is Mark again.   Interesting thing. We were talking about American Samoa the other day on the show, and I thought initially, what is an American Samoa that The US would want? And the first thing that I went to was, you know, military base.   And so, you know, during World War two,   they set up a naval station,   Tetule.   Isn't that interesting? Okay. They named it after Tetule.  

[01:54:52] Unknown:

Isn't that interesting? And so that's That was his name.  

[01:54:55] Unknown:

Yeah. I know. I know. So now they're just down to one army reserve center  

[01:55:01] Unknown:

to to basically to sound like it's recruiting center of some sort. And they they've got a a big tuna fishery out of there too. It's not too big an island. You can go look at it on,   YouTube. The other island that's incorporated   in that, we don't mention too much, is a little island called Swain's,   S W A I N, Apostrophe S, Island. It's privately held, but it's tied into it through a treaty on   pure Pacific, you know, no environmental damage, all that. There's 31 people that live over there on Swains Island evidently,   and it's a real rarity in The Pacific   because it has a freshwater   lake inside it.  

Yeah.   Interesting. Anyway, that's what they did. They set those up so that they could say the best   example I could give you is just the guy at the fair   that's has the table with the felt on it and three little walnuts, and he's asking you which one the pea's under. That's what they're doing here.   They're nothing but magicians.   They they   create illusions,   and all of us have grown up, and that's all we've ever known was their illusion   that we volunteered into. It's based on two premises.   One, that we call debt money,   and the other is that we think we're free.  

Those premises has built this   for whatever that's worth. Well,   Angelo, your head's probably about to explode. And,   just to take a deep breath, say a prayer. For some reason, you, very early in your life, have stumbled onto this,   had been looking into it, had curiosity.   And as it says in the Old Testament,   because they have not a love of the truth,   I will send them strong delusion, they'll believe a lie. And that's what everybody else is, and you're the truth seeker.   So   be grateful.   Gratitude is a very   powerful emotion. Here's another one of our ranch hands. Here is mister Bruce. Bruce, what have you got for young Angelo?  

[01:57:17] Unknown:

Well, you left out one corner of   the thing they were using on us, the school system.   They didn't teach the truth.  

[01:57:26] Unknown:

Well, I I they   teach   okay. I'll buy all that, but the two primary ones I've been able to identify. Well, sure. They've   conditioned us. It's not   it's Pavlovian   conditioning. It's very   high sophisticated   Pavlovian   conditioning.   K? And they've conditioned our subconscious   to opposite definitions.   You'll learn all this, Angelo,   and   and understand how it works. It's not that difficult. It's just new to you. That's all.   So, Bruce, anything else for, young Angelo here?  

[01:58:04] Unknown:

Just pay attention to   all the speaking. They're gonna give you the truth and not a lie right here. There you go. Thank you, sir. Anybody else got some,  

[01:58:14] Unknown:

suggestion? Say hi to Angelo here before we close out, at least on the broadcast side.   Because we're gonna hear the whistler in just a minute, and then you're gonna go, dad, come. I wish I had said that. I got something to say about us, Roger. Okay. Go ahead.  

[01:58:29] Unknown:

It's real quick. I just wanna I just wanna commend, and and it fills my heart deeply with this incredible joy to watch everyone on here wanna shepherd Angelo.   That's love, baby. God gave us that. Yeah. It is. Amen. And and I yield. It just feels good. Yeah. It feels good. And  

[01:58:47] Unknown:

and and because, Angelo, the base reason, a lot of it is probably self interest because the stronger we get, the better off all of us are. So it's all in our own self interest to get stronger and it amplifies itself. And,   it's very powerful information. It changes people's lives. The reason for that is because we're gonna change the way you think.   And you can't change the way you think   without changing the way you manifest it in your daily life. So that's the big picture.   Nice to meet you. I know all of us feel the same way, and we'll look forward to the next time we get to visit with you, which hopefully will be soon.   Mark, good to see you. You're gonna come back tomorrow and do something. Right?  

Well Mark's gonna come back tomorrow and do something. When Wednesday, but I wanted to, you know,  

[01:59:40] Unknown:

discussing the fourteenth amendment,   and maybe give us a little homework tomorrow.   And then Wednesday,   have you teach, like, the first part of the show about the fourteenth amendment,   how we got there,   and then what it's like today,   and then, hopefully   take some questions. And for a second, maybe you could think about   the fourteenth Amendment   coming from   Americans of African descent   and how how this would apply to them.  

[02:00:15] Unknown:

Thank you for the softball   belt high over the plate,   because I've had an aspect of that on my mind that we can open doors with and let it roll from   there. And I think you'll find it kinda introspective and interesting, and we'll do that tomorrow. So thanks for joining us, and, we'll see you soon, hopefully, tomorrow.   Ciao ciao. And then for the other group that wants to hang around, these these folks hang around here. Sometimes, Angelo, there's folks on here to the middle of the damn night.   So if if you get,   some question   in the evening and   just burn and have an answer, you probably find some folks on here.  

They could more likely answer it for you. So there you go.   So, anyway, we're, we're done for the day on my end here, the official end.   It's nice to see you new folks. I'm tickled to death to have William and his son and Tony and and the other people, whoever it may be that they're bringing. And,   now we got Angelo popping in out of left field, and,   it's just it's wonderful to see it take shape.   You guys do not know how many years and how much   effort,   work, and sacrifice have been made to get us here.   There's a bunch. K?   Anyway, Mark's along now on the ride from paralegal side   and stuff.  

Just the way it's, Paul's helping us get all the tech stuff straight, and we got new folks coming and old folks around. So love y'all. Glad you're here.   I don't guess if you didn't wanna be here voluntarily, you wouldn't be here. Yes, sir.  

[02:01:55] Unknown:

Got a head scratcher for everybody before we go today.   I found out this weekend,   doing some studies,   that beavers are seventh   Seventh Day Adventists.   They go in their lodges on Friday night,   and they stay in there for twenty four hours.   It's   the honest Scott's trip.  

[02:02:21] Unknown:

Okay. Think about that. I was I was gonna tell y'all what I did, yesterday, most of the day was I like to watch some of these historical things on YouTube. And this English guy, I can't remember his name, Paul something, I think.   And he, does these   all kinds of historical videos with an unbelievable accuracy.   And yesterday, I got stumbled on one on the Phoenicians   and the rise and the fall of Carthage.   And that whole era, it was, like, three or four hours long. Unbelievable   information on that.   And, of course, the thing that keeps coming to my mind was Eustace Mullins   said that the Phoenicians were the Jews.  

And in that documentary, they talked about how fierce,   fierce,   traders they were and how people hated trading with them because they always got   gypped out of their profits or or lost something. Anyways, very interesting. And   Constantinople,   of course, you can go there today.   There's nothing there. They tore every rock   apart and scattered those people everywhere.   Incredible story.   Yeah. I'm sure, Samuel, you are familiar with Hannibal   and him coming over and crossing the Alps in the middle of winter and surprising the Romans and terrorizing them. I had no idea he was there for fifteen years.   He did that, terrorized Rome from one end to the other for fifteen years. And the only way that they got him out of there, they couldn't beat him, was to take a very small, scraggly little crew because,   Carthage was right across the Mediterranean from Italy, of course.  

And they went over and offensively attacked Carthage,   and that got him to come home and bring the soldiers with him. But, boy, what a story if you wanna get into and understand some interesting history. And all that came   off of the world's first monopoly.   So I'll ask you, what do you think the world's first monopoly was?  

[02:04:31] Unknown:

Purple dye.  

[02:04:33] Unknown:

Exactly.   Thank you.  

[02:04:35] Unknown:

The color purple. I didn't quite hear that. What was that again?   The color What's the answer?  

[02:04:41] Unknown:

The color purple.   It comes from these little snails   that were around Tyre   and that part of the Mediterranean over there, what we call Lebanon today.   And it they took, like, 50,000   of them to get one drop.   That's how precious it was. Wow.  

[02:05:00] Unknown:

And and that's why You said that was the first monopoly?  

[02:05:03] Unknown:

Yes. Because that became   associated with royalty   because it was so expensive.   Wow. And they built that whole empire off that and looking for other places they could find those those little snails.  

[02:05:18] Unknown:

That's amazing.  

[02:05:20] Unknown:

Interesting, isn't it?   So,   see, you never know what you're gonna learn around the radio ranch or the after show.   So it's   cloudy and somewhat misty or spitty in Ecuador, but I'll probably get out and get some kind of lunch here. And,   so I'll see you guys tomorrow. We'll talk about the we'll start off with the thirteenth amendment. Okay?  

[02:05:47] Unknown:

Sounds good. And, Roger, I was thinking maybe we can do it in lecture mode while you're teaching   and then take it out of lecture mode and take questions like we had done previously.  

[02:05:55] Unknown:

It seemed to work really good. We could do that. We could do that. Alright.  

[02:05:59] Unknown:

Alright. Great day. I'm off to my neck. I'm off to lunch.  

[02:06:03] Unknown:

Okay. I may try and call you, hook up with y'all, and get this Skype thing done when we can. Okay?  

[02:06:09] Unknown:

Okay. Sounds good.  

[02:06:11] Unknown:

No. Paul. Paul.   Talk to you later. Bye bye. Just to okay. See you, Mark. Thanks for dropping by.  

[02:06:18] Unknown:

Paul? Just just hit the computer and remote. I'll take care of it.  

[02:06:22] Unknown:

Thank you, sir.   And,   yeah,   what a great crew we've assembled here.   So, thank you very much, and we'll see you tomorrow with the thirteenth amendment and background and all that.   Okay.   Ciao.  

[02:06:41] Unknown:

Thank you so much, everyone. This is Angelo. I just wanna thank everyone before they go. I hope you all have a lovely rest of your day, and thank you so much. Thank you so much. And I can't thank you again enough.  

[02:06:52] Unknown:

Welcome to the family.   Hey, Bob. Do you have a comment to make? Your, your mic is open, and you are really, really loud.  

[02:07:03] Unknown:

Welcome aboard, Angelo.   Thank you for dropping by. We hope to see a lot more of you.   Get that affidavit   into that new passport and come down and visit with me and Roger in Ecuador.   Welcome again.  

[02:07:29] Unknown:

Morning, folks. Well, I'd like to  

[02:07:31] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd like to invite him, to teach us what he what he went through to get to us and how it, affected him after he's he's,   had a month or two   after filing the paperwork.   It gives you a whole different feeling   on where you've been.   Just expect it because it's gonna hit you.  

[02:08:02] Unknown:

Morning, folks.  

[02:08:18] Unknown:

Good morning, everyone.   On Terra Firma back from  

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the Global South.  

[02:08:37] Unknown:

Breaker, am I getting in? Can anybody hear me?  

[02:08:43] Unknown:

Copy.   Hey. Are we going into the after show now? Or  

[02:09:07] Unknown:

No. It's the after after shows.   You're after it, and it's after you after you.  

[02:09:15] Unknown:

Hey, Bruce. Can you hear me?  

[02:09:18] Unknown:

I can hear you loud and clear.   Okay.  

[02:09:23] Unknown:

How did the meeting in Gaston go yesterday? Anybody   get an update on that?  

[02:09:29] Unknown:

I wasn't present there, but I bet it went really well.  

[02:09:33] Unknown:

Man, I don't want it to go so bad.  

[02:09:40] Unknown:

Richard, can anybody hear me?  

[02:09:44] Unknown:

I guess not. Jeez. What's going on here? We hear you. We hear you. Oh, I'm I'm getting through.   Getting through. Five by five.  

[02:09:54] Unknown:

I was trying to break in before Roger left and wasn't getting through.   Hey. Just kinda bringing to the group since the last time I've dropped in on you folks and spoken to Roger and whatnot. I've gotten the the privilege of several,   correspondences   from the IRS.   The typical   bluff letters,   this one from a new person that I haven't heard of, but the reason I was kinda jumping in here to kind of   make a statement for confirmation of my   suspicions is that the one of the last letters I received was   not that typical bluff letter text font, but it was, more of an official one that was not signed. And it's   indicating to me that I need to file   a form one five one zero three   informing the that I need to file for my 2023   form ten and ten forty tax return.  

And,   my thinking is, is on this letter is that I don't wanna respond to this one   with my typical   affidavit and all this stuff, because if I file an actual form,   doesn't that put me back in the system once I've extricated it myself from the system?   So   this, which   is a prompt for me to file a   actual form, I don't think I wanna do that. And I'm kinda curious what the group thinks.  

[02:11:23] Unknown:

Don't file a form and send a copy of your affidavit with a cover letter that says that I have already notified your office that I am not a fourteenth amendment citizen and not a resident.  

[02:11:36] Unknown:

So it would be good to address the form request? Absolutely.  

[02:11:41] Unknown:

Because that was that is probably   being sent to you as a confirmatory   writing. They make a demand if you ignore it, acquiescence is agreement,   and then that locks you into the contract contract.  

[02:11:56] Unknown:

Okay. Because this one form one five one zero three is a   ten forty   form return delinquency.   So I'm looking at it right here. So go ahead and address it, but don't fill out the form. So don't ignore it kind of thing is what you're saying. Right? No. Just send them a just  

[02:12:15] Unknown:

enclose a copy   of the letter they sent you   with a cover letter   that says I have already notified your office of my status as a national and not a citizen of The United States nor a resident.   I am a nonresident   alien.  

[02:12:37] Unknown:

Gotcha. And So go ahead and address it, but don't fill out the form. That makes sense. Yep. I am I am a nonresident  

[02:12:43] Unknown:

alien   with   respect   to income tax.  

[02:12:52] Unknown:

However put in all my other verbiage that I'm used to doing here. Can I finish?  

[02:12:56] Unknown:

Yep. However,   I may be subject to eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b   taxes.   However,   to the best of my knowledge, I don't have any income that would fall under those categories.   Makes sense. If I am if I am incorrect,   please   please respond and correct   me   on that point.   Otherwise, I expect this,   this exchange to be concluded concluded   to your satisfaction.  

[02:13:37] Unknown:

That makes sense.  

[02:13:39] Unknown:

Appreciate it. You you also can take a copy of the, form and write void   over it in red ink.   Cross it cross it. I mean, slant it down on on the form.   Void.  

[02:13:57] Unknown:

They didn't they didn't actually ask send me the form. They're asking me to   obtain one and then fill it out to send back. Well, you send them the form back.  

[02:14:08] Unknown:

Do you know that's a void form for you?   You know what I'm saying?  

[02:14:15] Unknown:

Oh, okay. So   from your perspective, assume that they did send me one and then do what you suggest. That's what I'm saying. They were they were wanting a a form, didn't they?   That's what they asked me to do. They're asking me to to download it. They didn't send me the actual form, though. Yeah. I understand.  

[02:14:33] Unknown:

You got a copy of it, though. I didn't write it on this in a new package.   Void.  

[02:14:39] Unknown:

Yep.   That's not a bad idea.   No. I appreciate it because I was just thinking of ignoring it. But as you said, Paul, probably not a good thing to ignore. I wanna address it, but not in the way that they want me to address it.  

[02:14:54] Unknown:

Right.   And also send them a copy of your notarized affidavit.  

[02:14:59] Unknown:

Of course. Yep. Yep. All that. Alright. Well, hey. Appreciate that.   Just drop it in and say hi to the group and whatnot. So we'll we'll, I'll yield and stand by. Thank you, folks.  

[02:15:12] Unknown:

No problem.  

[02:15:17] Unknown:

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