In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles is joined by Brent Allen Winters and Paul English for a lively discussion on a variety of topics. The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into the concept of titles of nobility and their implications in both the United States and England. Brent shares insights into the historical context and legal interpretations of these titles, while Paul provides a perspective from across the pond, discussing the current political climate in the UK and the influence of globalism. The hosts also touch on the importance of common law and its roots in Christian tradition, emphasizing the need for a spiritual and cultural revival to counteract modern challenges. The episode takes a fascinating turn as Paul English recounts his personal experiences with the banking system and financial markets, revealing the complexities and hidden mechanisms that govern global finance. His stories offer a rare glimpse into the world of high-stakes financial dealings and the individuals who navigate them. The discussion is interspersed with reflections on personal growth, the impact of recent personal events, and the enduring relevance of historical lessons in today's world. This episode is a rich tapestry of historical insights, personal anecdotes, and thought-provoking discussions that challenge listeners to reconsider their understanding of law, finance, and society.
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And here we go. Gonna take another stab at it on, Friday, April, '4 '4 '20 '5. Roger Sales. And because it's Friday, mister Brent Winters and I don't think he's with us just yet, but he likes to he likes to have have, you know, appear late and have a little anxiety there, I think, Francine. And I know he's out there. Anyway, Brent will be along directly, and, we'll cover well, I don't know what the hell we'll cover. We never planned these things. Anyway, it's, Friday, and, Roger Sales here. Radio Ranch, the name of our little get together, and we, have a number of people helping us extend our reach and maybe reach you wherever you are in the world. And Paul Beener is the keeper of said, helpers, and we always like to have him give them proper recognition and, thank them for their efforts.
Don't we, Paul? And
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we do. We do. That would be me. We have a full complement of platforms today. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to, Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services. Other parts of that are homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live TV, and stream life Tube. Those are brought to us by WDRN production Sport Collins, Colorado, also part of the Nat family of broadcast services. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and, his diligence and efforts toward, all of our freedoms.
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Morning, Raj. Yeah. Some of those folks do stay the day on the afternoon there. But wait. Hey, Paul. Morning. I don't think Brent's here yet. We've got a request from Eli that Brent's gonna field for us. Is he here? Am I missing him? I don't see him up there. Okay. But I can ask you in the interim until he arrives. How was, Paul, English on the show yesterday?
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Fabulous program. Great show. Yeah? He's, I I think it did him really good to be back in the back in the swing of things and Back in the saddle. Yep. What he's what he's been doing is, what he mentioned yesterday was that he's focusing on work and, focusing on his health. He's like, I believe he's walking five miles a day.
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Really? No. Yeah. Well, he lives right there by the beach, and I know he likes doing that. So
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Mhmm.
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And he
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did have, as of last night, every intention of joining us today. So Okay. Well, good. Maybe he'll pop by. It'd be great to see him. Always wonderful to hear that, English accent. So we're waiting on Brent here this morning. I think still. Alright. Well, he's out hunting hunting a Wi Fi spot or something. Well, we can carry on till he comes. Yes, sir. Who had a Roger there?
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Samuel. I believe it was just live. Bernie Bernie Sanders in the senate introducing a bill to stop the weaponry that's going to Israel, to stop the genocide, to stop Netanyahu. I mean, it was good. It was good stuff. Wow. I sent it I sent it to you. It but it was live, I think. So, but, man, did he nail it. Gotta give him credit.
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Okay. Well, I'd, well, I'd love to see the internal, Jew factions fighting with each other. This is a throw down, it sounds like.
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Maybe He cited a lot of the Jewish sentiment in this country that's against what's going on over there right now. Oh, there's a lot of people that that they're you know, I have heard
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that over in Israel, they're they're about to go into revolution over there, but you're not hearing about it anywhere. They're keeping it.
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Yep. And and Netanyahu right now needs war to stay in power. So if we don't give him bombs, he's sort of screwed. And they're talking about, giving him another 15,000,000,000 in weaponry. Oh, we need to get rid of that. This is what Sanders is trying to stop. So he's introduced a bill, and, they're hoping they got bipartisan support to stop this.
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A lot of these weapons, I guess, haven't even been manufactured yet. You you want me to I'm a make a prediction they'll never stop it. There's too many of them that they have control now in the, Congress. And it's a it's an unfortunate side of Trump. I hate it. I understand it. And, maybe, I I pray that he'll see the light. K? I mean, I'm not kidding. I pray for president Trump and that he'll he'll see the light of the Zionist deception that's surrounding him. But Well, he married his kids into it. You know? I mean, what do you do when you marry your own children into it?
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But at least there's finally some some real opposition in saying it for this country, for us in this country that just abhor what's going on over there. You know? Well, it's it's
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it's becoming quite obvious. I'll get you a second, Bruce. It's becoming real obvious. And I who was it? It was Owen or Harrison? One of them, he says, look. 50% of the articles are for Israel, and 50% of the articles are against Israel. And all this is this battle of Israel crap. And they're really struggling because of all the recent TikTok things and the fact that the younger the younger generation is one of the most evidently conservative generations that's come up in our country in a long time. I don't know how long, but a long time. And that's got them kind of freaked out too.
So they're getting exposed. People don't like these murdering bastards. They've always been able to hide the lie and keep it hidden, and now they can't. Bruce, what do you got?
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I got an idea. And this comes back from '25 1860 with the the Abbevians, public met and decided to to succeed from the nation. Okay. We're nationals. We're just like they are. Why we petition the both sides of the the, Washington DC, Democrats and Republicans, and petition to succeed, from the giving this whatever they're giving to Israel. They're not part of us. They don't belong we don't belong in their affairs.
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We petition to them, Bruce.
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Well, it doesn't matter to them. It's us.
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Well, no. It does matter to them because they control us.
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They own us. They're national.
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No. They don't. They're well, anyway, they're not here. Speckling a speckling of us all over the frigging country. They own the country. We've been in Babylonian slavery for ninety two years now.
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But we're in the
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Well, I know Bruce Bale. Alright. Well, there ain't enough of us, Bruce. Our word hadn't spread enough. If ever we can get it spread enough, we may have that kind of power, but we don't have it now.
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Oh, you Roger, he also went after APAC, if you can believe that.
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Oh, that's good. That's good. We had a small I mean, I'm sorry, Bruce. Go on. Bruce, you're pie in the sky. Sorry. K? Good idea, not functional. Sorry. Roger. I I live in reality, Bruce, not fiction land. Yes. Larry.
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Yeah. You were asking how the Paul English show went yesterday, and I just wanted to mention, they were talking about capital punishment, and a lot of people don't realize this. Most people think that that hasn't taken place for a long time, so I don't know if anyone's aware of this article. But it says a South Carolina prisoner is the first executed by a firing squad in fifteen years. This was written on March 2025, and I'll just read a short two sentences about the situation. So this is out of Columbia, South Carolina. A South Carolina man who killed his ex girlfriend's parents with a baseball bat was executed by firing squad Friday, the first US prisoner in fifteen years to die by that method, which he saw as preferable to the electric chair or lethal injection.
Three volunteer prison employees used rifles to carry out the execution of Brad Sigman, sixty seven, who was pronounced dead at 06:08PM.
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Well, how long have you been in jail? Do you know he's 67? He'd probably been in jail for a while.
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Well, it it he it says Sigmund killed David and Gladys Lark in their Greenville County home in 02/2001 in a botched plot to kidnap their daughter. He told police he planned to take her to a romantic weekend then kill her and himself.
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So what's that? Twenty five years? I I don't know, but he just deserves to be out of the gene pool. It's too bad more of them aren't like that. Of course, this is the get rid of the death penalty and get rid of the guns are the two key things that the communist use at the end of their third stage to move to the fourth stage ultimate takeover. So the more executions for these heinous crimes, that take place, the the the more they're stymied in their takeover attempts. They've never been able to get the guns, and they've not been able to get rid of the death penalty. So fantastic.
Thank you, Larry. I I see Bruce's I mean, Brent has joined us, I think. Morning, Brent. I think I see you up there. Yeah. I'm here. I'm here. Hey, bud. Yeah. You can hear me. That's good. Yep. Before we get any further, because Eli sent me that yesterday, and I said, well, hell. I don't know. And I said, Brent's gonna be with us tomorrow. I bet we can ask him. He'd probably know. And I shot shot you the question, and you said, let's get after it. So I don't know. Eli, did you join us today? Are you in the audience by any chance? Star six. And, if not, he can listen at the front end of this recording and get his answer. So and I don't even remember what the question was, so you're gonna have to, re, restate it if you would.
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Will it Oh, were you talking to Eli?
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No. I'm talking to you. Okay.
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Noah, the question had to do with the meaning of the clause of our US constitution concerning titles of nobility. And, that would be in the first article, section nine clause eight. There are two clauses in our constitution of The United States that concern titles of nobility. One concerns titles of nobility that the general government in Washington DC might issue, and the others concerning titles of nobility that a state might issue. And both of them are forbidden. But then the question comes, what does it really mean title of nobility? And let me say upfront, see if I can hit the nail with my head and answer the question and then explain it the way I understand it for what it's worth. Titles of nobility. Yeah. Yeah.
No. Yes or no. How would I say this? The governments of The United States, state and federal, are constitution bars from granting titles of nobility, period, period. But then the question comes, what is a title of nobility? And the answer is a title of nobility is an hereditary, title of nobility. For instance, after the war with, Britain and England, which included all of Britain, for our separation in 1776 to 1781, Veterans groups formed just like after World War two, the VFW became big. After World War one, the forty and eighters became the big veterans organization. After the war between the northern and the southern tiers of the states, the grand army of the republic became a big powerful and influential veterans organization. Well, after the war with Britain for our separation, those kind of veterans organizations popped up.
And one one was formed, one very prestigious organization of veterans was formed called the Kentucky Colonels. And those can that organization consisted of those veterans mostly from Virginia because Kentucky and my, voice said, Virginia was the largest of the land grants of the crown to England, and it covered, the lower half of and more of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, down in all of Kentucky, Tennessee. It was huge, and it went as far west as land went, and nobody knew how far it went. So it was that we went to war in Virginia individually. On its own, went to war with Britain over that question. And then Kentucky, of course, was part of what the part of Virginia and it was formed into a state.
But, Virginia or Virginia, as they say there, ceded their western lands West of the Alleghenies to the general government in Washington DC to be sold off much of it to pay the debt of the war. And land Connecticut did the same thing with its land grant that went as far west as anybody knew, but nobody knew. They knew it went at least to the Mississippi River. Beyond that, they didn't know what was out there. But, of course, the the, crown of England had had violated their charters. It's called, freedom of contract when they had did away with obligation to contract. The charters were contracts. So that was one of the big things we went to war over. Well, Kentucky was like that, and a lot of the Virginians and the Pennsylvanians, but others that were veterans of that war poured into Kentucky because there was no longer restriction. The crown had restricted any immigration West Of The Alleghenies.
Of course, a lot of people did it anyway at the risk of their lives. It was very dangerous in Kentucky, but they conquered Kentucky relatively quickly as bloody and as dangerous as it was. And then they formed this veterans organization called the Kentucky Colonels. Well, the the organization called the Kentucky Colonels still exist, and it's by appoint, yeah. By appointment, it's no longer a veterans organization. It's a it's a title of honor Mhmm. That the governor can bestow upon somebody, for achievement. For example, Colonel Sanders of Kentucky fried chicken is or was, he's gone now, he was a Kentucky colonel by decree of the governor of Kentucky because of his achievements.
And there have been many others. But those titles, Kentucky colonel, are not hereditary. My father used to belong to VFW. He joined up after the war as did everybody in his little town. The VFW was the biggest organization in town when I was growing up. And by the way, everybody knew they had the coldest beer in town too. But, to belong to that organization was to belong to the powerful, influential little organization in that little town. And, but my father, he finally quit him because he said all they're interested in was drinking beer, which is probably true. But he was thinking that it would, have to do with veterans rights, which it does, but that'd be you know, like every charitable organization, they will quickly devolve. I don't care what it is. The NRA and the National Right to Life and the State Right to Life organizations are this way too. They devolve they first, they're they're sincere, then they devolve into a business, and then they devolve into a racket worth millions and millions and millions of dollars.
That's the way all charitable organizations go if they're given enough time. Well, the VFW kinda got like that, so he quit him. But here's the thing I wanna point out about my father's having belonged to the VFW. I don't I don't get his membership by blood. I do not inherit his membership. I don't inherit the membership of any veterans organization any more than I would in if I was in Kentucky and my father had become a Kentucky colonel by decree of the legislature and the governor, however they did it. That's not something he passes along to me because I'm his son. So it's not a title of nobility.
It is a title, a title of honor, but it's not a title of nobility. So let me read what I have because this there are two clauses. I'll read what I have in my comments, a common lawyer comments, and my book called, declaration of '76 and constitution of The United States, a common lawyer comments clause by clause and blow by blow. And this is, for what it's worth, what I have discovered and understand about these clauses. Sec, article one, section nine, clause eight of our US constitution says this. No title of nobility shall be granted by The United States. That's clear.
The United States, that means the general government in Washington DC has no authority. It only has the authority our constitution of The United States gives it. But the the ratifiers of our constitution went even farther here. They said, not only are we not going to grant the power, if it's not in the constitution, the government doesn't have it. We're not gonna grant the power, but added to that, we're going to expressly forbid the power. Now they don't always do that, but they do it in this case for important reasons. But they say no title of nobility shall be granted by The United States, and no person holding any office or profit of trust under them shall, without the consent of the Congress of the United States, except of any present and moment office or title of any kind, whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
So, it makes you wonder, doesn't it? How the government to South Vietnam, I have friends that have pictures of themselves hanging on the wall, being awarded, military awards for valor in battle from the government of South Vietnam. I've also, seen and known of men that, in World War one, the French government, gave them titles and, special awards for valor in battle. Is this forbidden here? I'd say it's certainly arguable. Yeah. But it says the the offices or the title of nobility, that means hereditary. That's part of what a title of nobility is. By the way, remember, keep in mind, when you read the constitution of The United States, it defines nothing.
It just spits it out there and the words and phrases that folk of that day understood. It does define a couple of things, so I had a caveat that it defines what a dollar is, and it defines treason. As far as I know, those are the only two things that defines, and it leaves it up to our common law tradition to inform every word and every phrase. And if we don't do that, by the way, our constitution of The United States is a disconnected, dry, and dispirited skeleton of words. That's why nobody knows what's in it. It's boring to read. It's a skeleton of words if you don't live in the world of our common law tradition as those men did in that day. Well, title of nobility, that's part of our common law tradition too and what we understand about it. Again, I'll say it's hereditary.
That's what it is. Well, but it says also not only titles of nobility are not to be granted, but also we we are not to accept any other office or profit or trust without the consent of, a moment, office title, or any kind or any kind, whatever it says, I'm quoting, from any king, prince, or foreign state. Here's the a common lawyer comments. Here's his comment. This clause bars the general government in Washington DC from giving anyone a title of nobility. That means inheritable by blood, such as a count or a countess or a duke or a duchess or a baron or a baroness and etcetera, ad infinitum ad nauseam.
Know well. This clause does not bar titles of common respect and honor. The the words missus or mister, ma'am or sir for men, and women, miss or master for boys and girls. I used to get letters from my relatives and older folk. And when I was a boy and this was the habit in my childhood, it would say on the letter addressed to me, master Brent Allen Winters. Because back then, there was still more of a sense, not as much that we shoulda had back then, but we had more of a sense of titles of of respect even for young boys like myself. We had titles. Note well, this clause does not bar, titles of common honor. I've said that.
Or even, I mentioned here, the Kentucky colonel. Such titles of common respect are not inherited by blood descent. Further, national officials may never accept any gift, office payment, or title from a foreign power without getting congress's consent. An attorney on the roles of a federal court holds a office of trust under The United States, for example. And as such, this clause bars him from accepting anything from any foreign power. However, the title squire or esquire is barred to such an attorney attorney only if a foreign power has granted it. You know, traditionally in America, lawyers are called esquire.
That is not a title of a nobility. Why? Well, run it through the definition of common law because it is not inheritable. No lawyer. I can't pass, my my position, my office as a lawyer onto my children, my sons, anybody. I can't bequeath it by will. I can't do that. So it's not a title of nobility. Now this is patriot mythology. I've listened to it for forty, fifty years or more, but the word Esquire is a title of nobility and lawyers, have taken an oath to the Queen of England. That is absolutely unadulterated hogwash.
It's a it's a distracting lie. It has no truth in it, whatever that I know about. There's something somebody can show me where they've got proof of it. Like, outside to listen to some patriot wacko on the Internet who's who's making a lot making a lot of money saying things like that, and they make a lot of money. You say things like I say, no. That's not true. People won't send me money for saying that because that's not exciting. See? Because we're looking we're looking we're in a minute. Is this Joe? Yes. Yeah, Joe. Hang on, bud. Hang on a minute. Let me Joe, would if I will I will let me finish, if I may, this particular clause. I've got a couple of paragraphs to read. Can I do that? And then you can That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. And Joe Joe has weighed in on this question before, and, I wanna hear what he's gonna say again. This clause, however, does not apply to an attorney licensed to practice before the courts of one of the several states of The United States.
Type because, again, it's not hereditary. Titles and nobility carry three dangers. Number one, the privileges they carry are hereditary by blood When from a foreign power, they encourage splitting of loyalty from The United States. That's the other disadvantage. They deemed noble those who are not. They listened to that phrase. Oh, I don't know where I got it. I think I made it up, but titles of nobility deem noble. Those men who are not that's key. Let's think about just quickly. I've got to drop a footnote here. What does nobility mean? What does noble mean? Maybe you remember from chemistry class, there are the noble elements on the periodic table. Well, what are they? Well, they're the ones that are hard to mix up with other with other atoms. You know, an element is broken down as far as it can be broken down and retain the property of that thing by the atom that's in it. There are no there are no molecules in an element. An element just the atom of gold, the atom of silver, and it's just all that atom. Well, the, nobility, noble is a old Latin based word that means purity or pure.
Now you tell me, do you think that the nobility of Europe have pure blood? Are they pure people?
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It's just the opposite. They're a bunch of hemophiliacs.
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Yeah. Their blood is tainted from cross cross pollination to put it lightly. But not to mention, they're wound up there. You give people that kind of power and prestige, and it just exacerbates the taint of evil that's in mankind. It it gets worse. So that's not true. It's a lot. It also affects through inbreeding
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and the dumbing down of the people and their mental abilities because of inbreeding.
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The genetic the genetic, yeah, in in in that's the best way to say it. I like that. That's good. Well but nobody is noble. Nobody. No man has noble blood. No man is noble except by the birth of the spirit of God. Period. That's what God teaches in in his word, and his word is unassailable evidence of the record of what he said. That's what we and that's what our forebears have gone by, and that's what's true. And that's why we're in the position we're in if it's anything if there's anything good or prosperous about it. Well, does not I said that. I'm getting to where I was. Thus, because The US, The United States recognizes, oh, we're getting to foreign power, splitting loyalty. Yes. Yes. Because The United States recognizes the Vatican to be a sovereign state, any title an attorney allowed to practice before the federal courts who accepts from the orders or organizations of the Vatican are a clear violation of this clause.
That's happening a lot. That's a violation of this clause to accept a title or an office or recognition like that from the Vatican because remember during the Reagan administration, I believe that's when it was, our government recognized the Vatican as a sovereign state. Then, of course, here the the pope, his, is an imperial prince by definition. And the bad clear violation of this clause to bar such an attorney's acceptance of any present, the movement, office, or title, I'm quoting, of any kind whatever from any king, prince, or foreign state. The following related amendment, Joe, I've still got you in mind. Hang on, buddy. The following related amendment proposed in 1810 was likely ratified in 1819, but is contested. It forbids split loyalties such as dual citizenship, which now invades which now invades even the president's cabinet and federal bench.
If observed, it would root the disloyal from national and state government. Now here's the here's the amendment. As a practical matter, it has no force of law, but I'll read it to you. If any citizen of The United States shall accept claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, or shall without the consent of Congress accept and retain any present pension, office, or a moodle of any kind whatever from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of The United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office or of trust or profit under them, breather of them. Now, Joe, I have another clause to read that pertains to the states, but, well, I'll save that for later. I'll stop there and give you the floor.
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Well, just a quick comment, and I haven't caught everything you've said. But, you know, I revert back to Blacksmith's Law fifth edition and what they consider, titles of nobility by definition and also Esquire. Go to Black Small fifth edition. I don't have it in front of me. I'm out in the shop. But, somebody could pull that up and read the definition of Esquire.
[00:32:58] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Esquire and I know Esquire Esquire was a title in the old country. I'm aware of that. Is that what you're driving at?
[00:33:06] Unknown:
Well, I do remember it saying it's an English title of nobility, but are they not were they not referencing that when they wrote the amendment?
[00:33:20] Unknown:
No. I don't believe they were because Franklin Franklin Franklin.
[00:33:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I've read, excerpts of his writings to where he basically said, lawyers will be the death of our country.
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Well, that may be true, but that doesn't mean it's a title of nobility. And I can understand I can understand why people are down on lawyers. I don't much like them either, but go ahead, Joe.
[00:33:46] Unknown:
Well, you know, I don't tend to take up a lot of time here. I just it's a point of order, I think, that, the definition from Black's Law fifth edition be read and scrutinized because I take it that they were using it in application to American jurisprudence.
[00:34:12] Unknown:
Well, when we well, when we talk about words such as Esquire, when well, let me back up. Number one, dictionaries such as blacks are very helpful and of the English language, but those are not those are not final about what anything means. Never. What's final in our common law tradition is how the courts use the word. That's final in individual instances, not overall. Black's law dictionary is a legal dictionary, and the and the principle behind it, the purpose behind it is to tell us how they have have observed that the courts have used words. In our common law tradition, we study when I was in law school, we we read cases and contracts and toward we read English, Australian, and Canadian cases. They run our case law book to help us understand how our common law, shakes out in the course given certain facts and, instances.
And, the word Esquire has a history that's rich. And as Trent said Trent said, there's lot of times more in the history of the etymology of a word than there is in the history of a military campaign. Let's look at it. So that's less worthwhile. And that's what he's doing there, I think. Yeah. We're going back and you'd get, the sixth edition, the seventh. They're beautiful. Blacks, I'm talking about. They go back and and tell us going back, okay. Here's how the word started. You know, the word squire originally meant farmer.
That's what it meant. And, had our ag teacher when I was in high school, Joe, I took ag. Did you take ag in high school and all that stuff? Joe may not be with us. Anyway, I had Yeah. I took ag. Yes. I did. Yeah. And I was getting fine. Yeah. It's alright, though. People people multitask when they listen, and we we're glad for that. But, I took AG. I was in the FFA, and the fellow that taught AG class, his name was Donald Boyer. And we all called him Squire Don. Well, why do we call him Squire Don? Esquire, by the way, is the French pronunciation because it's a Latin based word too. But from the bastardized French to the Normans brought to England that were, that controlled, the tongue in England for a few centuries.
Well, we call him Squire Don because he was the one that taught farming. He taught about farming, so we just called him squire. That was the old use of the word. And then squire came to be understood if a man's a farmer, that means he owns land. Well, shucks. If he owns land, he's somebody important, and that was true.
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Matter of fact, that's the rule. The word. In the beginning was the word. In the beginning was the word.
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Well, that's true. Of course. Was
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the word. We we got you, Farris.
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We got you, Farris. We got you Yeah, but Dave, I got you, man. We're we're talking about we're talking about this. Farris. We're talking about Crap. Yeah. Let me let me go on. No. Could you please let Brent finish? Thank you. How are you? Today how are you? The word spire means farmer, so that became attached to a man that had land. And then a man that had land, he became he's very important. And, of course, with that importance, he passed his land along, and that became part of its hereditary. That became hereditary just by custom over time. And then Squire also became attached to knighthood.
Squire. Let me go look all this up, stating word. But all of that just started figuring into the the the the tradition of national defense and squire and the in kind taxes of, knighthood and all that. And it came to mean or it came to be hereditary as everything in England came to me, it seemed. Not always right, but that's what happened. And Squire is one of those, but in America, we're not England. We're a sovereign country.
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Hold on, Brent. Somebody's got a mute open, please. There's a conversation going on. Screwed up. Hang on. Just a second. Just a second. That's alright. I found it.
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Yeah. We're a sovereign we're a sovereign country, and all of that trash. And when I say trash, I mean trash. All that trash of the old world, we said we don't want it anymore. We don't even want all that trash of Norman England. As justice James Wilson of the US Supreme Court's first panel of three said, are we Americans have harked back beyond the year October and established in America Anglo Saxon common law tradition, and that's what we want, and we still have it. That's why we have sheriffs in America that aren't just figureheads. These fellows have real jobs in the counties chosen by the counties. You see in the Norman tradition, for example, after October, sheriff the the king, William the first said, I'm going to appoint the sheriffs of the counties.
Well, the Anglo Saxons didn't do that. Anglo Saxons, I like to say Anglo Danes because the Danes had come by the that time. We had the angels, the Saxons, and the Jutes were the Danes. And that was they were all neighbors and relatives on the continent over there, and they were all pretty much the same people. They had broken up into three tribes, and they formed the nation, welding those three those three tribes together. And they they, chose their each County, each Shire, they called it, chose their own sheriffs. Well, we we do that. See, well, the, the governor of your state does not appoint the sheriffs in your counties.
If he did, they would be his lackeys. They would be his eyes and ears. They'd be his political force.
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Praetorian guard.
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Yeah. All that kind of stuff. So we didn't want that. So the words Esquire does not have the meaning it had in England. When, when, Noah Webster, compiled his dictionary of 1828, he did it after he had, translated the Bible into English. It's called the Webster translation. And he wanted America to have an, language, a tongue that was unique to them that took all the definitions for the concepts of the words out of the, out of the Bible. So he progressively translated the Bible. He got that under his belt. He learned a lot about the words, and then he moved on forward, and he did a dictionary. And that everything is new, a new birth of a new nation of an English speaking people that wanted to reestablish something that had been lost. And by the way, never does anything ever has ever happened that is good among mankind and never will. That mankind does not reach back and grab something that has been lost in the far past and reestablished it. And that's what we did here in America. Yeah. We reached back and reestablished what our ancestors had lost, and they hadn't lost the common law. No. No. It was still good, but it wasn't in the form that it should have been because of the Norman invasion, which had become very administrative by the influence of Rome and the Roman church.
They reached back or retched back, as they say in the Wabash ballet. They retched back and grabbed it and brought it up on the new continent in a new place, and Esquire doesn't mean what it meant in the old country.
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Mhmm. Go, Roger, or somebody Well, I was just gonna say that's conservative to conserve, to reach back and conserve. Yeah. One thing, let me bring you an example. Tomorrow, I'm gonna do a little self promotion here too. Tomorrow, we're gonna do, the, the presentation of John and Glenn's tax material on the origin of the income tax and how it worked and why and all that kind of stuff. And the case that John stumbled on I mean, you know, people don't realize I don't mention it probably enough here. I don't know if you've heard me say this before, Brent. But at one stage, because of all this stuff, John, like many men in a family, had been estranged from his family. And he was with a group there in Denver, including John Nelson and some other folks at a patriot group. And, he, had of one of the guys there had a carpet store.
And, John didn't have any place to to go after he got estranged from his family directly. And so he threw a mattress down in the warehouse in Denver at a carpet company, and for sixteen months lived back there so that he could read court cases ten to twelve hours a day or more with bad eyes that he had to have a magnifying glass as thick as the bottom of a Coke bottle. So the sacrifices that have been made and out of that that time came, he stumbled on a case called Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. It was in 1855, I believe. It was a jeopardy assessment case.
And, where the the the the customs guy they were talking tariffs now these days. Right? Well, the tariff collector at the, Port Of New York back in those days had embezzled more than a million dollars out of the taxes of the port. And, then he had gone and bought land. And so they came and seized the land even though it was in some another company's, possessions supposedly. Anyway, in the case, point I'm trying to get to is they said, well, we don't have anything to do with, jeopardy assessments and these kind of takings in our constitution, so therefore, we must revert back to the country we came from. So they reverted back to the English law in this process on this jeopardy assessment case. It's very interesting to me. We'll talk about it on Saturday, and it was the origin of, them understanding totally the tax system after many years finally being able to get the books written by the, gentleman Price and Chitty that and others that wrote on the exchequer in England, which, if you don't know, is the Treasury.
So, anyway, just wanted to add that. So they they would go back to the old English law when they didn't have an answer.
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Oh, we'd we still do it. But we're we're one. We're not rev I mean, in America, as a common law country, we're not revolutionaries. We're not revolutionaries in this, like, the papal revolution, the French revolution, the communist revolution of Russia and China. That's not our tradition. That's the law of the city. Revolution, coup, round and round and round. It evolves and never stops. We throw you out, and we kill you. You kill a bunch of us, we get them. We get back in, back and forth and back, and that's not our tradition. Our tradition is we have a continuity that never changes of true law, and that we are inextricably bound to our to the old country. There's no question about it. And if we aren't and we're on a sea of subjectivity, we've cut ourselves off from our past. Our common law tradition never looks forward until it first looks back.
The case recently, 2,009, Heller, the Heller decision, it's during the second amendment. You go read it. Go on back. They hark back to old England, and they say, okay. Here's what the law of the militia was. Here's how it worked. This is our tradition. And and justification of our right to keep and bear arms. It was, a famous man, in England. He was, he, he's the one that did the study on this on the right to keep and bear arms about the time our country started. And, Granville Sharp, his name was. Granville. Yeah. He was Sharp too, and he's the one that, discovered what he called the Granville Sharp rule number two of the Greek New Testament. He was a consummate student of the of the Bible, and everybody that studies the Greek, the Koine Greek, the New Testaments knows of the Granville Sharp rule, which bolsters and this rule discovered bolsters the deity, the absolute deity of Jesus Christ. When and just to drop a footnote, when Thomas, the apostle, saw Jesus Christ after the resurrection, he was doubting Thomas. That's where the phrase doubting Thomas. He couldn't made him believe it. And Jesus Christ said, okay. He said, thrust your hand into my side where that Roman soldier, stabbed my side with that. Well, I was well, I was nailed to that post. And then, look here and put your hand in these holes in my wrist or his hand. We don't know whether he was nailed by the hand of the wrist because the Greek word used could refer to either, but he said put your hand in these marks, these holes where I was nailed.
And Thomas did that. And when he did it, he fell down on his face, kissed the dirt right at the feet of Jesus Christ, and and said, my lord and my god. And the construction there has a conjunctive in the middle, an, chi in the Greek text, and it has two nouns, lord and god. And grand Bill Sharp discovered, I suppose other people knew it, but nobody had ever said it in the English speaking world, he discovered that that when two nouns joined by Kai, the conjunction translated and, two nouns joined by Kai are of the same case ending joined by Kai.
Those two nouns are descriptive of the same person or thing, Lord and God. Well, that's easy. Just read it in English. You can see it, but, nail it home. It becomes more pronounced in the Greek text, and that happens not only there, but throughout the New Testament in a lot of places referencing the deity of Jesus, the absolute sovereign deity, member of the godhead, creator of all things of Jesus Christ. Well, Grand Bill Sharp also did an extended study on the the right to bear weapons as an Englishman. And he said this, and I think I got the quote right.
He said, the Englishman has has always it no. There was never a time was never a time when the Englishman not only had the the option of being armed, but he had the duty to be expert in arms. And then he goes on to define what that means. Well, that's our common law tradition. Not only do you have the duty to be armed, it's a duty friends, not an option. If you're a male and you're over age 20, that means 21 according to the federal statute 18, but 21 is biblical because that's our common law tradition. The Bible is age 20. Our common law tradition, bumps it up a year because we don't want to air if we don't know when a man was born and have a man be responsible for the functions of government, namely armed defense and jury duty, defense of the law of the land, and defense of the land. We don't want him to, be in that position until we know he's 21 or 20. So we'll say 21 just to be safe. No. We do that at common law when if the Bible says give a man 40 lashes, we give him 39 just in case we miscounted. We wanna on the low side in that case.
That's our common law tradition. Always being very careful never to go beyond, never to violate the biblical standard. Ain't that amazing? I've just blabbing. Is, Brent. All the common law tradition is to not know who we are and why 21 is the age of majority. But all alone, we could go. But the age of majority means you're responsible now before God. And if you mess up, he he could, slap you in line real hard, so be careful. So but, the right to keep in the right is a duty. It's an old Anglo word that means duty. Expert means, in our day, of course, and in the day of Granville Sharp, firearms were the weapon of choice and popularity. And when we get to America, they become the weapon of popularity and necessity in a way that they had never been among hardly any people. Well, no. Firearms came to their own in America because no people ever in the history of mankind ever had a necessity of firearms like we did. We lived with them because we were on the edges of the frontier constantly.
And to keep ourselves from being eaten by mountain cats and bears and wild engines, we, had, firearms. And by the way, white men who were crazy. There are a lot of those too, by the way. Lots of them. We don't wanna forget that. Men are men, and they're evil and dangerous critters. If you haven't figured that out, you will. If you haven't lived long enough. I mean, dangerous we're talking about each other, friends. That's why we propagate the gospel. That's the only thing that will restrain evil, and men. The only thing. There is nothing else. Politics will not get us where we want to go. Here's a beef I have, Roger. A beef I have, but there's nothing I can do about it. It's always been this way. I've been in politics, and it is true that politics is exciting.
It's exciting because there's always crazy things going on, crazy accusations, and we look like we win. There's always the rah rah rah on the crowd and the majority and all that. That's not worth Roger, go ahead. No. So we saw it this week. Go ahead. Yeah. That that doesn't do anything, friends, and that doesn't change anything. It does there's no long lasting effect is my point. We get involved in it. Sometimes we're pleased, of course. We can get I've been in politics. I get it. I've had crowd been around crowds screaming. One time I got up and introduced a fellow that became governor the night before the election in a large airport hangar.
And, he had he asked me to come up on the stage with his family. The rest of the party had ostracized me. He was my friend. By the way, he went to prison too. Ain't it funny? I got to thinking about it. Tom DeLay supported me. What'd they do to him? Ten years, they tried to get him in prison. Tom DeLay. Then it was George Ryan. Oh, a great guy. You know? And he did things that as a state as a speaker of the house and all that. He tried to they they did get him in prison. Oh, yeah. And then they went after the other fellow supported me, Tom DeLay. George George, they went after him. And then, congressman White from the Western District Of Kentucky, the grand jury indicted him. He was friendly to me, was a part of me. And on and on the list goes, and then there was me. You know, they did the same thing to me, grand jury indictment. I was I thought about saying to Trump and all his cronies, well, welcome to the club, boys. You finally figured out or found out found out. Well, politics is really all about. At the bottom line, when they can't get what they want, they will jail you. And if that doesn't work Will. Work, like with Trump, they'll put a bullet through your stall. Look. And you know what happened in Europe this week with, like, Marie Le Pen
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and the guy in Romania and and and the guy in Hungary? They're trying to stop all that. Same thing, throw them in jail, charge them, etcetera, etcetera. Same old same old song. No different thing.
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Now we see why politics is so exciting. Now that's exciting stuff to talk about it and the stories I can tell stories about it and all the other peep but that's not where the power is. The power is the steady glow that never goes out, not the boiling pot of politics or the flaring up of politics that flares up and then then bags out to nothing, and it does. Always does. I mean, whoever heard of me? I was the mine I had more name recognition in 27 counties where I ran than, anybody. 92% name recognition. Spent a million dollars to get it. The only guy that had more name recognition than me was Bill Clinton, president of oh, he was in the White House anyway. He had 98% name recognition. I had 92.
That's exciting. Again, you you stand up in front of crowds. They're cheering, telling you how wonderful you are. But if you lose the election, I've had this experience too. You're standing in a room with paper all over the floor, copy machines everywhere. Right. Just you in an empty, quiet room that was buzzing with people coming in and out and telephone calls and fax machines and just buzzing all the time. And all of a sudden, you're persona non grata. Yep. And people don't like you because you
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lost. That's politics. Go ahead, Roger. No. I'm just laughing at you telling this story. Go ahead. Yeah. So
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I'm laughing because it's true. Because I know it's true. You laugh at things that are funny when they're true, not when they're false. That's right. So politics is not the answer. It's a necessary evil that with us. We get involved when we need to, but just keep in mind that ain't where it's at. Where it's at is right there in your house. Moe, I if I could push this if people would listen just a little I think they do sometimes, though. Those that God has chosen will listen, have opened their cleaned their ears out, clean you know, when I was a boy, Roger, I have to drop another footnote.
I my brother and I, my job was to sit in the seed wagon, the flare bed seed wagon at the end of the field with my other brother, Dave. He was, eighteen months older than me, and we weren't big enough to pick up buckets of seeds, so our job was set in the wagon. They're little tiny planters back in them days. Dad had a w d 45 Alice, and he pulled a little John Deere planter with it. But, boy, he'd go like gangbusters to try to get the planting done with his small equipment. It was all horse drawn stuff that lot most of it, we converted because dad used the before he didn't have an electric welder, and he welded stuff together with a with a with a cutting torch, you know, just a regular gas. And he welded stuff together and adapted all the horse drawn equipment, disk and harrys and stuff to tractors so he could put them on the draw bar to that draw bar that Alice Chalmers.
We just sat in the wagon at the end of the field and had a tractor hooked it, and he'd pull it along as we progressed, and he'd jump out. But, boy, when he comes in the field, every two rounds, I had to fill those boxes. They were just little things on that little John Deere planter. He'd turn the tractor around and reach back, pull that rope, and and it was ground driven. That planter come up, and he'd whip her around, and he'd throw that hand clutch out on that w d 45. And before the thing even stopped rolling, he'd have one hand on the gas tank there right in front of the steering wheel and the other hand on the fender, and he would bound off the tractor to the front and run around. And we were supposed to have all those buckets filled. They were five gallon, metal grease buckets. We collected them to use for that purpose, and we'd just set them in the wagon. We'd take our hands and fill them up, and then he'd grab them and throw them in the planter. And, he'd take off again and he'd throw the buckets back in the flare bed wagon, and then we're supposed to fill them up again.
Well, we didn't have anything to do between rounds, so we just sat there and play around and we'd look for black, little black seeds. You know, if you have yellow seeds or white seeds, every once in a while, you'll find a black one. We'd do that for a while, then that'll get born. And one time, we got the we got, seeing how many soybeans we could stuff into our ears. That's what this kind of stuff boys do. Oh, we didn't think anything. I think we'd pull them out. You know? Well, years later, I I might have been five or six then or maybe a little. I don't remember. Years later, when I was 14, I felt something rattling around in my head.
And I told dad, so I'd shake my head or something would rattle. And he said, well, which size it all? I told him. He took a piece of bailing wire. So he'd get up there on the table. There was a light over the kitchen table. I got up on the table and laid down, and he took a piece of bailing wire and cur curled it up so it was curved on the end and it wouldn't be sharp. And he got a flashlight, and I turned my head sideways, and he got looking down in there. And what had happened was I had grown older, and my ear canal had grown bigger.
And that bean that had been in theirs at least ten years probably was starting to rattle around a little bit. See? Now fortunately, dad said, well, so it's a good thing it didn't, germinate and sprout, then we'd had an awful mess. Will it? And it my ear he said your ears are dirty enough we could plant a garden in there. You know how that goes with noise too. Hey, Brent. You never yeah. Somebody wants to say something. Go ahead. Paul. Sixty seconds
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tell people how they can hear more of you.
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Okay. And this will continue. Okay. We're, yeah, we're talking to the folk in Chi Town, and we appreciate you. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Coming to you, coming at you here on, what's the name of this show? Roger Sales, ready to rant. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Roger Sales. You can look him up. He's all over the Internet. I look him up. Sometimes, he have new websites he pops up on. And then all the archives, you can listen to that. But go to commonlawyer.com, common lawyer Com and, take advantage of what you can use there. We're there for you. The website's for fun, not for business. People say, well, you're a lawyer. What are you trying to do? Get business? No. I'm not trying to get business on that website. I'm trying to get the word out Trying to get the word out, the truth. And I have there, of course, the winterized translation of the Bible. You can get that. I have, the comparative law text, excellence of the common law, and we have law school classes at Winter's Inn. Sign up for them. We're teaching the class on Christian nationhood right now. What is it? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Has it ever existed? Should it exist? We're trying to answer those questions. And all of our law school classes are in the can. You can go back and take them, and they'll tell you how to access them there, and you support us when you do that. Appreciate you.
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Brent, you still got that old radio since the timing, man. Come back to this bean in your ear.
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Oh, well, dad got the bean out of my ear. But see what the reason that happened right at the end was because he got to give me orders, telling me what to do, and and I I wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't even act like he said anything. He said, what's the matter with you, boy? You got mud in your ears? Right. Well, I don't know, dad. Well, I don't, I didn't hear you. You didn't hear me. And I, and then I got to tell him something was rattling around in my ear. Just boys, you know, boys do anything, keep getting bored. You know how that is. And the the stories about what our constitution of The United States means, well, that's not always quite as exciting. And then when I say just pay attention to your wife, just to pay attention to your husband.
Yeah. So the covenant of God, the trust settlement of God is your relationship with God. Let's look at the Bible and that's what we do. We try to look at the Bible on Saturdays and Sundays. We do. We're going through the book of Jude on Saturday. No, I get mixed up now. Well, anyway, we're going through the book of Jude on Monday, Saturday, and Sunday in the book and the 10 commandments on the other day, but we're at the 10 commandments, Exodus chapter 20 because we're going through the whole Bible. We started in Genesis, and now we're in Exodus 20, and we're moving through. And we're going through the 10 commandments clause by clause, blow by blow, the big picture as well. And now we're gonna continue going, Lord willing.
And then we talk about the laws of nature, the nay and and of nature's God. Here's the answer to our problems, friends. Here's the answer to our problems. And I am in good company when I say this, and I follow the example of specifically three men, but there are others. But these three have become, front and center for me. The first one was, Stephen Langton, the drafter of Magna Carta. The second one, that was in the December. Then the second one in the 13 hundreds was John Wycliffe, the translator the first man to translate the Bible into English, the entire Bible, and then, sir John Fortescue of the fourteenth century.
All three of these men were from England. All three of these men, promoted our common law tradition. But they said this, all three of them said the same thing and operated on the same idea. There's only one thing that will bring our country back, and their country was about to be lost in all three circumstances. Give me like John Knox said in Scotland, give me Scotland or I die. He's praying to the Lord himself. Give me Scotland or I die. Well, these men have the same attitude. Give me England or I die. So Stephen Langton, drafted Magna Carta.
He was a churchman. The Pope of Rome excommunicated him for having drafted Magna Carta when he heard about it because Magna Carta is another expression in a long train of solid stepping stones throughout the history of our common law tradition. And, common law mitigates head on directly against the Canon civil laws of Rome, the law of the city, the code of Justinian, the, of the Roman empire, which governs every country in the world. That's why the Pope threw him out along with a whole lot of other folk. He was the foremost old testament commentator of his day, Stephen Langton. He's the man that gave us our chapter divisions to our Bible. We still use them today.
A consummate biblicist. And and he said, our common law tradition along that's the laws of nature. Along with the laws of nature's god or bible, that's the only thing that's gonna change our country and give our country back to us. And when you read Magna Carta, and we also have taught the course over fifty, weeks, that course was clause by clause, blow by blow, going through the Magna Carta. That's available on the website as well. Then we get to the 13 hundreds, and that was John Quickliffe, the man that translated the Bible into English. And he taught because the Bible taught that nationalism is what God wants and not tribalism and not imperialism.
Rome is imperialism. Empire. The people throughout the world, traditionally and, their first analysis are tribal. Like those that lived here in America when the Europeans got here. And they were constantly enslaving each other, killing each other, and homosexuality was just part of the course, for them. They didn't know any different. They claimed, of course. I think nature teaches us different. They just did whatever they wanted to do is what I'm trying to say. There was no consistency of law, that's tribalism. But John Wickliffe saw that John Wickliffe saw that nationalism or somebody said something. Wait till I'm back. Yeah. Farris, just hold on, please.
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Nationalism. Brim and take a break.
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God ordains nationalism according to the land parcel he's given to any particular people. That's what the Bible teaches and the relationship with our allodial landlord who is Yahoa himself, God himself. Our relationship with him is that we our legal relationship is we are beneficiaries and he is settler of a common law trust. And that's what our course about Christian nationalism is about. And we're about to get to the end of it and to define after all the things we've said in the course of the last thirteen weeks, I think. Now we're getting to the finality of it and the finale, which is what is our relationship as a Christian nation to our maker? Well, the Bible tells us it's not like it's hidden someplace, but it's forgotten. And what we're teaching there is what those that founded America believed in their heart of hearts. And I'm not trying to promote the idea and then convince other people, but I darn sure am trying to present what they believe because they're the ones that put us on this trajectory we're on. And if we know from which we have came and draw a straight line from there to here, we'll know by drawing a straight line on out, where we're going. And that's what Christian nationalism charting charting a course,
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so they say. It's started. Alright. Let's see. Ferris, what do you got? Now be nice.
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Good day, gentlemen. Thomas Jefferson said never use one two words when one will do. See, Jefferson worshiped the word. That's why he gave you the founding document, which some people refer to as the declaration of independence. The first word of the declaration of independence is what?
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What is I know. You're gonna y'all want word. You go ahead.
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Of the declaration of independence, I would like to ask first, I'd like to ask the, the weekday host, Roger Sales.
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What's your first word of our declaration of advance? Farris, I I I do not know, but I'm you've got my curiosity. Is that important?
[01:07:15] Unknown:
Oh, well, Brent, you know what it is. Let's tell us, or or should I
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anyone else know the first word of the declaration of independence? We want we want we want you to take advantage of the time you have before. We want you to go ahead and talk, and you tell.
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The first word of the declaration of independence, most of the sheep will say it's we. We the people. What a bunch of idiots. Okay? I think I think it's we. I think it's when, isn't it? When when instead of we? You you got to it. You were you got to it. See? It's when in the course of human events. It's a w word. Yeah. I only mentioned that with regard with reverence for Thomas Jefferson named Thomas the name Thomas is a is a is a compelling, given name. And, my grandfather had that name, for example. Now here's the key to what, and and and let me just say, I could listen to you all day and all night. Now the first time I ever heard that said was on a small market radio station in, New Bedford, Massachusetts where it was written Moby Dick about a a bar in New Bedford, Massachusetts. It was the beginning of Moby Dick. And on, fourteen twenty AM in in New Bedford is a talk show called the the, the South Coast Today.
And, on that show, the queen of local talk radio came on, and she talked like Brent Allen Winters is talking. And a guy called up after her, not me. I was with her at the time. And the guy said, I could listen to that woman all day and all night, and it was because of the sound of her voice as much as it was the brilliance of her content. So, I mentioned that in with regards to Jefferson's rule, never use two words when one will do. Now, Brent, you just used two words when one would have done and one would have done much more effectively. And I I think you will engage on this. Nearly no men will engage on this, and, of course, zero females for obvious reasons.
And that is that the the the phrase as well should never be used ever because you have two perfectly good, words. One is to t o o, and the other one is also. And if you have the skill and are are and are not lazy and you place two and also properly in the sentence, you can't go through one as well as at the end of a sentence as you just said that that's available on the website as well. See, as well, nobody understands this. I hope you do. As well has killed our ability to communicate. Because when one uses as well at the end, instead of properly placing two or also earlier in the sentence, then it becomes vague.
Would you grant that That it's uncertain what the as well refers to earlier in the sentence. Was it the color? Was it the time? Was it the Are you Nope. You're asking me a question. I challenge you to engage on that because you have a brain brain, Alan Winters. And you did you smoke much marijuana like the the, the cohost,
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Rogers here? I doubt that he I doubt that he has,
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Farris. He turned me on to marijuana, but did it take some time to see you? I remember.
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Ferris, we hadn't seen you in months, and now you come over here and you command the show, and you you kinda interrupt, put your foot in there, Brent, instead of waiting for him to be in. And now you get off in this, minute nitpicky thing about two and also versus as well, because Brent used it after he gave you this brilliant soliloquy and this fabulous history that virtually nobody knows. And that's the one thing you gotta comment on?
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That's the one thing that he came up with in English.
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I I I don't know what to say sometimes. Okay. Go ahead, Brent, please.
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Well, I suppose that, just to make one comment, I don't know that Tom Jefferson was much of a talker. I've always got the impression he, of course, liked to write. And, no, he didn't give us the declaration of '76. There are a lot of men involved in that. Matter of fact, he's he took I don't wanna say this word stole or plagiarized, but he took a lot of what he said from the Puritan, John Locke. And John Locke was a consummate bible student as well, but that's never taught because that sounds too exclusive and too Christian, but it's true. And, Tom Jefferson took what he said from John Locke. And if you'll notice though, when he writes, he he does use two words often where one will do. There are times to do that. I'm not arguing with this fellas point. Now if you're writing and trying to be succinct, you would should follow. I agree with this, that, who was it?
E b white, E b white, the author of Charlotte's web. E b white, took his his notes from his little notebook of his composition one zero one professor at Cornell University, where he went in the year 1919. I believe he was a freshman there, and he took a notebook that he had to get at the university, bookstore for that first course, and he compiled it into a short little writer's grammar called elements of style. And in that little booklet, which by the way, I've carried with me for many, many years now, and I never stopped referring back to it. He said the number one, the number one rule of writing is to eliminate this is a quote, eliminate all unnecessary words because a switch without leaves, a switch without leaves stripped of its leaves stings more when applied to the back of the legs and a rifle shot penetrates better than a shotgun blast. That was his quote. Well, I I think he's right on that, but there are those times.
Of course, people can be the judge when that's to be done. There are other times when you're talking, especially when you violate that kind of a rule to keep people's attention. For example, and I'm not the first one to observe this. Other people have observed it too. I think Carnegie said this about, Abe Lincoln's presentation, the Gettysburg address. He begins with four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought upon this continent a new nation. Well, the phrase four score and seven years ago is eighty seven years. Why didn't he just say eighty seven years ago, our fathers brought up on this continent, a new nation.
Why didn't he do that? Well, he didn't do that because he figured he worked on it quite a long time, but he decided that right there, he was going to use some flowery speech speech right up front because it would grab people's attention if he said something a little different than what they'd been used to hearing. And so he used four score and seven. That's four words. He could have said 87 and that'd have been a lot easier. So there are times to do that. What I'd like to do now, though, if I may brief Roger is read the next clause of our constitution, section 10 clause one, which has to do with titles of nobility also. And I'm doing this in, respect of Eli who asked the question. Hadn't heard from Eli. I'm glad he's doing okay.
Hadn't heard from him in a while. Yeah. He was through, what was it? Triple? Was it stents or bypass, Paul? Do you remember? Okay. No. I don't. I I do remember that there was Triple
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bypass.
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Yeah. And he's recuperating. I think he's listening now. I think I got a message from him a minute ago on Skype. So we'd say, Eli, we're glad you're better and continue on that path, please.
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And, yeah, and what a name. I like that name. My great granddad was Elisha, and everybody called him Lish. But Eli, which has the same syllables and the same Hebrew words in it. This is section 10 calls one article one. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation. Let's stop right there. Just again, I can't help but notice. This is one of the reasons why the Northern states got upset at the Southern states. They entered into a alliance and a confederation. They said, wait a minute. The constitution of The United States says you can't do that without at least permission from prompt, from Congress, but doesn't even say that. So you can't do that. That's where comes from, by the way, Confederation grant letters of mark and reprisal. That's giving, authority with a piece of paper to private parties to engage in acts of war and enjoy the plunder for themselves.
Coin money, emit bills of credit. What's a coin in money? That means, just, well, it means making coins and stamping coins. No state has authority to do that. Emitting bills of credit. No state government is to issue paper money according to our constitution. Of course, the general government doesn't do that either. They think they get around it by selling the bills. They print to the federal reserve bank for a few cents. But, technically, but that's not really what's happening. It shouldn't be done. They can't make anything. The States can't make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender and debts, a tender and payment of debt debts. If a state passes a law by the legislature and the governor of, Nebraska signs the law, and the law says that if somebody offers you go or, American dollars, you owe them $20 and you, they offer you an American 20 dollars bill and you refuse to take it cause you want gold or silver.
The, constitution says they don't have authority to do that, to pass any kind of law like that because they're, they're saying here, but the States can make gold and silver payment for debts. Legal tender. What does legal tender tender means? Once you tender the money, once you offer it to the other fellow, hold it out and tender it to him and he refuses it, then he can't Sue you for anything else. Yeah. Legal tender means the government says this is, can be used for payments of debt. And, if you're offered it and you don't take it, then you have no legal recourse in the courts. You got to take this for payments of debt. That's what it I believe in the UCC. If you tender payment and it's refused, the debt is considered paid. Is that correct? Yeah. In some states. Yeah. It depends upon their version of the UCC. And I don't know them all. That's why I say Of course. In some states. But, yeah, tender means once you offer it, if the law says once you offer it and the other party refuses it, then the other party doesn't have any standing in court to sue you over it. Okay. Well, but the states do have the power to make gold and silver coin legal tender. In other words, you all offer well, there was a case Southwest. I believe it was Oregon, but I don't remember for sure, but I think it was Oregon. Not not many decades ago in the scheme of things. And, the government, the legislature passed, a law saying payment of, of, a certain tax had to be in gold or silver coin.
And a fellow, one fellow offered payment of that tax with American dollars, and they wouldn't take it. And he took them to court. And the case wound its way all the way up to the Supreme Court to The United States. And the Supreme Court to The United States says, no, they can make gold, silver coin, legal tender they want. But keeping in mind, this is the principle tax is not a debt. It says debt here. Legal tender has to do with debts, but a tax is an obligation by law. But but, but they did uphold the idea that the state had the the right to make that call and say, no, we want gold and silver. And if you don't pay it, we're gonna hold you in, it's a crime. We'll throw you in jail or something. Go ahead, Roger. Brent, I had always heard the legal tenderment. You that's what they wanted you to pay taxes in. And you say it really has to do with debts. Here's another one of these
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really sharpen your thinking kind of, points that need to be differentiated.
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Oh, I'm glad. Yeah. Roger, I'm glad you brought that up. Let me just back up. This is a net more Patriot mythology. There's a difference between debts and taxes. Taxes are obligations. Obligation is a fancy word for duty. Duties arise out of law. That's why some taxes, by the way, are called duties because it's an obligation. Well, like in, like in this new, tariff thing, there's going to be duties on the, on the products that are brought in. It's a duty to pay it. That that's just one way to use the word. But the bottom line is a debt arises out of your contract with somebody. You cut a deal. You have a quid pro quo. You give me this, I'll give you that. Okay? There's a an obligation, not an obligation.
Let's just call it a debt. To put it for some of you that would like to think these things through, all all debts are obligations, but not all obligations are debts. For example, taxes are not debts. Taxes do not arise because of some contract. This and that's the Patriot mythology that arises. Well, I don't have a contract with the government. I don't have this. I don't have that. I don't have that. No. You live on the land that has the territorial jurisdiction of the state or whatever you, there are certain duties you owe just being there. And you, those obligations, for example, every male, according to our common law tradition, 21 years and older, according to the federal statute for federal purposes, 18 years and older, you're a militiamen whether you understand it or not or whether you know it or not. You didn't make any contract with your militiamen because your father birthed you. Your mother birthed you. Your father fathered you. He sired you.
And w and because God allowed you to live long enough to reach age 20 or 21, you're a militiamen, dude, whether you like it or not. And it had nothing to do with any obligation or any any debt that you contracted with anybody. And by the way, your duty to PR to defend the land by force of arms from invasion and to defend the law of the land as a member of the jury, man, your duty, that's a, that's a duty that arises out of what contract? No law. It's just the way it is because you live on the land. The Lord your God has given you. Well, lawful tax is a note. I say lawful, not anybody. Anything that somebody says is a tax, but lawful taxes are the same way. Whatever that is. If they're lawful, you have a duty that arises out of law, not out of contract, but I've beaten that up enough. Let me keep reading here.
And yeah, legal tender, Roger, according right here, it says for debts, it doesn't say obligations of, of tax and a debt. Show me a contract. We say this lawyers have said this, it's a popular saying, frankly, it used to be, show me a contract and I'll show you a debt. Show me a debt. And I will show you a contract because contract is debt. That's what it is there. It, it, it, it doesn't encompass fundamentally anything else. There are two debts with every contract. There's an obligation on or, there's a debt on both sides that is an obligation, but I'm trying to use the words specifically to make the distinction. All debts are obligations, something owed, but not all obligations are debts. And I'm really struck with something good in our courts. Our courts have been pretty good in America and distinguishing those two words, debt and obligation.
Let me keep reading here though. Emit bills of credit make anything but gold and silver talking about The States Of The United States making anything but gold and silver coin, a tender and payment of debts. In other words, the States, again, to reiterate and say it a third or fourth time, it doesn't hurt to say it a few times. The States Of The United States are sovereign and as such, they have power to say, this is legal tender for debt. In other words, legal tender means once it's held out to pay a contract, you go to a store, you buy a bottle of pop, you walk up to the gas station to the cash register, you hold out, something that the government says is legal tender, like a gold coin or a silver coin.
And if the government has passed laws and your state saying that's legal tender and they refuse it and say, I ain't taken that. Listen, I've had people, I've said, listen, I'll give you a silver coin for that, for something I owed. And they'd say, I don't want to say, what am I going to do with a silver coin? Most people don't even know what to do with a silver coin. They'd rather have a candy bar. People are proven. Well, yes. Yeah. Mark Dice proved that out in San Diego on the beach asking people. Here, I've got a candy bar here, and I've got this silver coin.
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No. It's a silver bar. Okay. Silver bar. And he offered them one or the other, and most everybody said, well, I'll take the candy bar. Not only that, there was a shopping center right across the street with a pawnshop in it. And he said, you can take this bar over there and ask them what it is, and they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't walk across the street to verify it.
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That's how far away a field we are from reality. And by the way, gold and silver, according to God, according to the Bible, according to the testimony of God, the affidavit of God, gold and silver are money. That's God or God's ordained money. A little, another little tidbit that I think is important every time, not sometimes every time you see the word money and the old Testament, the King James version, for example, and the other versions, most, all of them, every time you see the word money, it translate it's rendered. It doesn't translate. It's a it's a false translation. It renders the Hebrew word.
Kisef. Kisef means silver, period. Doesn't mean anything else. Silver. Sometimes the Bible will say current money. Well, that's silver. It was silver in that day, by the way, it's still silver today and it always will be silver because the law of God has had so, and we still recognize that. Do Do you think it's any accident, for example, that gold and silver, gold is going through the roof right now. Why? Because no matter what else happens in the world, no matter what men say, no matter what governments say and legislatures say gold and silver or gold and silver, and it ain't going to change. And you know, the law, one good definition of law is the way things are and they ain't going to change.
And that's still true. Let me read the rest of this though. Golden silver. That's true. Make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender in payment of debts pass any bill of attainder, bill of attainder to stop on that one. I think maybe. Yeah. Eli did mention this too. Bill of attainder. What's a bill of attainder? A bill of attainder is a law. There was a proposed law that some legislature passes that makes it a, makes a crime out of something that's already happened. Maybe that's the easiest way to say it makes a crime out of something that's already happened. Well, what's wrong with that? Let's say somebody.
Well, that's like an ex post facto law. Yeah. It's that kind of stuff. But attainder ex post facto is more to the point. And the, both of them are here. Attainder has to do with a person being born, but person being born something that's already happened. So my father was born or my father fathered me and then he commits a crime. Well, the, if there's a law then that says I'm guilty of the crime or I can't, I can't own property for the rest of my life because my father committed a crime that's called a bill of attainder. Why do they call it a bill of attainder? Because it has a tainted, they would have said that that my father's wrongdoing tainted my blood bill of attainder.
So really it's like an ex post facto law and that's why they're listed together because it makes a crime of something that's already happened. And it says, well, the Bible said, and the reason they say no bills have attained her. The Bible says this, that the sins of the fathers, the guilt of sons shall not be gotten from the sins of the fathers. That's another way to put it. I am not guilty of the wrongdoings of my father. My grandfather will in Old England. They got to that foolish point of Anglo Saxon England. One that way, but Norman England was that way. You were stripped of any if you had a title of nobility and your your father had a title of nobility that was you were going to inherit. Remember, all titles of nobility are blood titles. You inherit them.
But if your father, was, convicted of treason, high treason, for example, against the crown, not low treason or petty treason as we call it common law, but high treason, then he was stripped of everything and you get nothing, no title, no land, no nothing. And your children don't either. In other words, it's, it's like the cast system. It's a little bit like that in India just destroys society. And we said, no, in America we're, we're harking back to the common laws that as a stood under the Danes and the Anglo Saxons. We're not going to do that anymore. That's, that's wrong. It is unbiblical. Remember the people that founded America, I mean, you could say 98% easily were hardcore war grade Calvinist by official doctrine. Oh, not to say everybody was, but their official doctrine was an everybody over 98%, over 98% by the best figures we can find. I can find everybody identified with some Protestant church, and there are only about three brands at that time.
And they were baptized as such. All the members of Congress were that way. If you weren't that way, you'd never get elected to office. Tom Jefferson, you know, he he agreed with a lot of Christianity. People say he was a deist. He wasn't nobody in America that we know of was a deist. A deist is somebody who says that God is not active in the affairs of men, number one, and God has not communicated to us in writing. Well, Tom Jefferson believed God had communicated to us in writing. He cut a lot of it out, said he didn't believe that, but he believed the Bible was true except the stuff he cut out, which was miracles. He didn't believe that, but he still wasn't a deist. George Washington wasn't an deist on that count. Nobody was, the word of God was sacrosyct in everybody's mind and nobody just from social pressure alone at that time would say anything against the Bible again or against Jesus Christ.
I remember where I lived and where I grew up, it was up by the way. You just didn't do that. Even if you never darken the door of a church, you didn't commit blasphemy against God. That way people wouldn't put up with it. Well, our country started that way. So on that trajectory, as I've often said, is that it was a Dutch and German reform groups in the middle colonies mostly, not all, but some of them were in Georgia, by the way, and the Dutch and German reform groups. But New York was the center of that and Pennsylvania. And then the Anglican, the English Anglican, and Puritans, and congregationalist, and then also the Scotch Irish Presbyterians. Those made up by far and away 98% of the European population of America when our country started.
And they were all substantially the same as far as their doctrine and understanding of of reality and and, religion and government, which always go together, was. And they all were I say this, apology. It's just a matter of historic truth. They were all Calvinist. I use that word not because I like the word Calvinist, but, I don't know how else to say it. Now there is a word that that says the same thing that's reformed the reformed Christian tradition that most people don't Arctic elated from Martin Luther. Martin Luther was the first Calvinist, really. The Lutheran church never followed his doctrines, but they just, after he passed away, they chucked them. And the Melanchthon, his assistant took over, and Lutheran churches in America are not. They're just the opposite.
And but, those that started the country, the Puritans, the English Puritans and Anglicans, the congregationalist, the Scotch Irish Presbyterians, They're about and the Dutch and German reformed groups, and they were about a million in America. A million when our country started of each of those three ethnic and Christian groups. And they welded together in America. And I was just thinking this morning as I was talking to my son. Oh, I want our for me as an example, just to give a personal testimony, what what kinda what kinda ethnic groups are in my background? Well, just primarily three. You know, there's Dutch and then there's there's Scotch Irish and then there's English.
And a vast majority of Americans are like that still. They end up calling them Anglo Saxons, but they aren't. They're a mixture of those three. Those three and that has made a unique unique, unique, yeah. Not another place in the world where those three mesh together the way they did in America. Not all that we have inherited in America. It is our common law tradition, which is a Christian tradition. That's what makes us American. And what wherever your ancestors come from, latch onto it and know that's the way God made you, and you should not reject it. You should not reject who you are, my friend. God made you that way by his sovereign power, and you had no sin
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by the way.
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So whatever your blood is, let's go into it. Yeah. And say, no. This is who I am. And the
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caboose of that, the caboose of that trilogy, English just joined us. And I wanted to, not let any time pass without saying welcome, Paul. We're always tickled to death to have you. And I wanted to recognize you were with us and let Brent know that also.
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Cool. Hi. Welcome, man. I mean, welcome welcoming thank you for welcoming me. Hi. Well well well Yeah. Yeah. Well So Yeah.
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Always a pleasure. Go ahead, Brent.
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Well, I just wanna say quick. I I wanna get this in. Paul sounds chipper. Sound like he's full of gumption, and I'm happy about that. And we're glad to have him. And, I'm trying to think of a provocative question right now to ask him so people could get some relief from me talking.
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I'm enjoying it. It took me so long to join. I've just been sat here being entertained for the last hour or so. It's been great. Oh, you've been listening? Oh. Okay. Yeah. We that, of course. Well, when we're hoping, of course, that you're able
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to somehow, I don't know what can be done, but we want to have an influence, all of us, if we think we're right and we think we're right headed. We don't think we're right about everything, of course. No. We're mortals. But we do think we're on the right road and heading the right direction. We I believe it. And I want, the point of view we're espousing here to get out in the old country and, I suppose even broadcast onto the continent of Europe where our mother tongue, as it's called English, is now, it covers the entire globe. That's the first time in the history of our Adam's race that that has ever happened. And we live in that world now where our mother tongue is the tongue that's understood which they use their own words to describe the international language, which but hasn't been that long ago, it didn't cover the world the way English now does. English
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covers the world. Very interesting, Brent. You know how they accomplished that?
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How's that?
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They made all the air traffic controllers requirement to speak English. Everything flowed downhill from there. Oh, you'd, yeah, you'd mentioned that. You know, that's kind of analogous
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to time zones in America. We didn't have any time zones in America till travel out by analogy. Not airplanes, but railroads made it possible, and then we got connected in six we were six days from the East Coast to the West Coast by train going through Utah, going down across or Nevada is what is now Reno in that way. But once they did that, they said, wait a minute. We gotta have a time schedule here. What are we gonna do? And for the first time, the railroads gave us what we call the time zone Ozzie Durham. America.
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Okay. Makes perfect sense. East to west.
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Government didn't do that, but it had to be done. Otherwise, they they could,
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the train abstract. If there's no percent points, it's abstract.
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Yeah. Yeah. So they did. It's much to the chagrin of me because I lived on the time zone that where if I went to Indianapolis to get on an airplane, I lived on it just the other side of the time zone. I can't really tell you how many times I've been hightailing. They're on the road to entry. And oh, yeah. And then all of a sudden, look. Wait a minute. We're in a different time zone. And I Yeah. Be late an hour. You know? Yep.
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But let me tell you the rest. With this time change down here because both countries I've lived in don't change times. Yet because of my association with you guys in the radio program, I have to. And, yes, caused me some fits occasionally.
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Well, I thought that if I if I, waited enough time and talked a little bit, I'd think of a provocative question for Paul. So here's what I I didn't because I'm talking too much and I hope
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It doesn't have to be provocative, Brent. It's fine. Just, you know, ask me the ask me the baseball scores or something. It could be something really mundane. Not that I know them. Yeah.
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Get your tongue numbered up. You might just start rolling. Well, here here's what I wanna know. Yeah. Just get you start talking. Tell us, how is, the how are those in England? Are they liking Trump less or more? We're watching here in America. Are they liking Trump less or more as his plans unfold? Or are are they taking the or the conservative folk there taking, taking what Trump is doing in the same way we are? We're we're starting to evaluate things more and seeing how they're playing out. For example, somebody said, well, we're gonna have to pay the tariffs on those cars that, they're shipping in here. That's gonna hurt for a while. Things like that. Can you give us an update what's happening there?
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I I mean, I haven't seen so much about that. I caught a little clip, from some radio station yesterday where they had some guy on talking about, the tariffs both ways. And, there's been sort of, like, a slightly hysterical reaction in some quarters, but everybody else has said, well, look. Tariffs are just part and parcel of history. There's not really a big deal. I mean, I think for it's you get into so many fine details with it. We don't really have a car industry anymore. We used to have one. But we don't really have one of any any much substance. And most of the car manufacturers over here are now owned by foreign interests, which is all part of the design, I suppose, you know, to remove any sense of a manufacturing base from here. Yeah. So so Rolls Royce is owned, I think, by BMW now.
And, they make jolly good cars if you've got enough money to buy one you want, something like that. In fact, the factory is only about 40 miles from where I'm sat down here. Really? The guy the the guy that lives next door to me used to work there as a seat fitter. So he got paid a lot for cutting all those leather seats and all this kind of stuff. So there's a lot of you know, they've they've retained a lot of British craftsmanship ship if if such a thing exists, and it does actually. I shouldn't be too cynical. It does, but most of them are owned by these, by foreign entities. I think the main concern over here I mean, I don't sense a big sort of interest in Trump.
Maybe that's just a reflection of me, as a major thing. It's the main concern over here remains, the dysfunctionalism of a government that's actually well, I've run out of adjectives it's reviled. I mean, without a doubt, it's the worst government anybody can ever remember ever Yep. In a league of its own for stupidity, mediocre people saying goofy stupid things who have who self evidently haven't got a clue, and are totally rudderless. I mean and I view them all, including Trump, you'll have to forgive me, as messenger boys. The lot of them. The whole lot. They're carrying out you know, my stance is they're carrying out the orders of the city, of the financial the money power, and everything is unfolding according to plan. I think the, their plan, of course. I think the digital currency thing is is the greatest menace that we're all we're likely to face. I've got nothing against digital currencies, but I've got a lot against it when you and I don't own that digital currency system.
Yeah. So I think they're gonna wreak havoc on us with that if they can get away with it. And I I think, I weren't you mentioning earlier about the increase in the price of gold and silver? I mean, there is a movement into this because, although from a sort of technical management point of view, gold and silver are challenging, let's put it that way, In terms of individual locations surviving, it's probably as good a strategy as any if if that's what you think you need to do. It's Well,
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the rich aren't going out and buying a whole bunch of Bitcoin, but they're buying every bit of gold, especially in silver, they can get their hands on. I checked a minute ago when that subject came up. They've knocked it down today. It was over 3,100 here earlier in the week, and they've knocked it down to 3,023 here on Friday because they don't want gold sitting up there high as people go into the weekend. Because as Robbie Noel did you ever listen to Robbie Noel? Paul, are you familiar with him? He was such a No. I'm I'm not familiar with him. Oh, he was a great guy on RBN and has that rich South African at colonial accent, and he'd been a stockbroker on Wall Street for a while, and he was selling gold and silver doing political commentary. And, Robbie's, comment was gold climbs a wall of worry.
And, boy, there's a lot of worry out there right now, including now I do have a provocative question for you, Paul, because I've had a few minutes to think about it. Have you already got your order in so you can get your ninja sword before they're outlawed this summer?
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No. Because I don't need to put an order in because I've already got one. Okay. Okay. You were out there now. Courtesy of my I've got one courtesy of my father who, at the end of World War two, he was in the British Navy, in the Royal Navy. Right. And, they the the last job he did, they were taking Japanese prisoners of wars, prisoners of war back to Japan on this destroyer that he was on. And, the, commanding officer of the Japanese infantrymen, I'm assuming, that were there, ordered all his men to hand over their swords to a corresponding, person, of, the same rank. So, you know, he ended up and yeah. So they all got one. And, my dad brought it back, and it's my sons keep pestering me for it, but I don't want them sort of practicing in the garden or anything.
So, it's it's in a safe place for now, so I'm being a bit wet, aren't I? But, yeah. So I've got I've got one from 1944. Could do with the I actually spoke to a, a what would you call somebody who repairs swords? It's not a blacksmith, is it? A swordsmith, maybe? I don't know. Could be. Good as any. I spoke to a guy down in Cornwall who does that sort of thing, and he he suggested it probably wasn't worth doing from a financial point of view because I thought there's a few notches. There's a few sort of bits of metal missing in the sharp edge of the blade and stuff, and it could do with a bit of TLC. You know? But, no. I I,
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I'm not too worried about it. Well, that that's good. You can leave it in there because when stormers, men, come and you get it out to use it, that little chip in the in the edge there rips. It's it's just cutting it rips. So like a serrated knife. So I think you're maybe on the better side there.
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Well, it could be. I don't know. I'm I'm awaiting for them to ban crossbows, actually, is what we think, what I've thought they might be looking to do. Yeah. Crossbows, a very lethal piece of wood. They are. I mean, absolutely devastating. Yes. And I can understand why the pope was a bit cross about them and sought to outlaw them, but there's just nothing much you can do about them. They're just, you know, very, very potent weapons. So because there was a crossbow murder here last year. A horrific thing where someone trade, armor armor,
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bullet pad proof stuff. Don't they?
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They do. Yeah. They do. I think there's there's one, you can see I've I've spent a little time looking at it. I think there's one. It's about $3,000, this one. Mhmm. Amazing looking piece of kit kit, you know, using carbon fiber and all this other modern stuff. It's got, like, a barrel so you can load multiple they don't call them arrows, do they? What? They're bolts. That's what they're called. You have a a bolt. And, it's got a car you can have eight or 12 bolt cartridge that's like on an autoloader. And the bolt leaves the bow at 550 feet per second Yeah. Which is pretty quick.
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I had one. I had one in The States. I had a crossbow and a longbow. And Yeah. This was the crossbow that didn't have all those pulleys and stuff. It was just strictly the the bow there and the poundage and stuff. And, of course, I had to leave it in The States, and I hope somebody's taking care of it now because I have no idea who got it.
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Yeah. Well, I hope it doesn't come to any of this kind of stuff because it seems to me that the actual the real battle is in the hearts and minds of people to get thinking straight. Yep. And, if we can if we are able to do that,
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which we I think we must do it. We have to find a way of doing it. Some of them are too Paul, I'm sorry. Some of them are too far gone. Some of these people are there's no sense in even wasting any effort on them.
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No. You're absolutely right. I think the idea is to waste effort on the people that you hope you're not wasting your effort on. It's different. It's a bit like kissing frogs to start off with. You just have to sort of get some sense of it. You know? But, Boy, do I Yeah. I mean, we were mentioning yesterday, Roger. You know, I was just thinking I thought, well, what is it you know, to use the modern parlance, what is it that we're we're against? We're against globalism, communism Mhmm. Nay, cabalistic Judaism. You know, we we all know this kind of stuff. Right? Yeah. But let's just use global I use globalism over here because everybody that's intelligent knows what I'm talking about, and then we don't have to use the words that cause them to come and knock on your door. But, I keep thinking about localism, really.
I'm just thinking all the time about localism and that maybe localism is the antidote that we need to re employ It is. To reboot to reboot globalism. You know? So it's not neutral. It's also decentralization.
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It's this, dialectic opposite equivocation thing. And, yeah, it's decentralization that that ruins them because they lose all their power and control. Mhmm. And this goes with the old statement, by the way, came up on the show this week. All politics is local.
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It it is. It needs to be reenergized in in that way. I keep, I think I mentioned there's a there's a church here. I don't know if I mentioned when I was on last time. There's a church here nearby. And, I keep walking through the churchyard. It's, whatever you would imagine about a really pretty English churchyard, that's what it is. It's one of those. It's amazing. I just got all these trees, and the sun shines through. You've got these gravestones from, like, '17 so now 1817, and things like this. So it's been around quite a while. And I'm I'm the the facilities that are there that are kind of that could be employed much more fully, they've they've got a parish hall. They've got scout huts for all sorts of things. And there's thousands of these all over England, and they're not they need to be reignited, if you see what I'm saying. They've gotta be reignited and to try and find a way to do that, to get people to participate in the outcome of their own life if they would like to.
It's a big ask. I know. You're you're right about a lot of people being gone, but a lot aren't. There's there's less arms than at any other point. Let's put it that way. We're still outnumbered, but not outnumbered to the degree that we were, say, five or ten years ago. That's what I think. Well, it could be. I know they're getting apoplectic
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on both sides of the pond. Mhmm.
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Well, one of the things I was talking about last night, I've just been, I've got a book called The Crisis of Civilization by Hilaire Belloc. I may have mentioned Oh, yeah. He was a great Catholic writer. Yeah. He was. And it is about the collapse of the Catholic church. And it's really I what I do is I park my prejudices outside of the book before I jump into it. I try to do this because otherwise, you just end up mustering and going, I don't agree with this or I don't agree with that. But it's it's actually really just about the organization of Europe, and his take on it is the is, again, really valuable, I think. I mean, he he talks about, the rising of the church in Europe before Constantine, which is, what, March, something like that. And he refers to the all these little sort of churches all over the place as clubs, which I think is a really useful word. Everybody knows what a club is. And you've got all these little clubs of people springing up all over the place, particularly centered in Eastern France and on the borders with sort of Switzerland and places like that. It's very sort of like the epicenter of this thing.
And how it rose, how it had to deal with Muhammadism, which came along in, what, June and not this onslaught. And maybe I mentioned it when I was on before. I've just been plowing into this stuff because it's a bit that it's a sort of part of history I've been blindsided about. He talks about the Reformation, although I I haven't read that bit yet. I'm just over halfway through. I'm just about to jump into that this weekend. And, the the Reformation really was a devastation. This I'm not saying it in defense of Catholicism, because one of the things that he talks about is how the seeds of the demise of the Catholic church had been building up for, like, a hundred and fifty years from the mid thirteen hundreds, late '13 hundreds, before, you know, Luther and what happened with Henry the eighth and all this kind of stuff really kicked off. So it already kind of it's about this disintegration of human power systems. They all tend to disintegrate.
And, the church had basically sort of become corrupted. And yet and yet this you just if you remove all that, you go, well, these are our people seven hundred years ago. And what Belloc suggests is that in the late twelve hundreds, which is what when's Magna Carta? 12/15. But going towards, like, December, we got Edward the first over here, Longshanks. He's the guy that ejected all the Jews from England and all this. He said this was the high point of unity across Europe in terms of Christendom. It's a word that I like. I like Christendom. I think it takes a lot of charge out of things. And I'm just of a view at the moment. You can ask me in a month, I might be saying something different. But at the moment, right now, as this mood is upon me this week, it's the restoration of Christendom that's required, I think.
I'm not talking about attending churches, although I'm not again there. But not the ones that we've got at the moment. They're they're they're church in name only. They're a joke. You know, it's just the most appalling situation. And yet The reason why Bello is good is it's yeah. Our situation now parallels that. It's exactly the same. You can just see it. It's no different.
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Yeah. You got to get Scofield influence out of the churches. Mhmm. The dispensation heavier with you than it is here. You do. Oh, well, yeah. You're kidding me, man. I mean, it's just sickening what we're seeing. Honestly, Trump bending over and letting these jackals and hyenas do because that's exactly what they are.
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Yeah. Well, I'm of the view that he's not his own man, but, you know, I could be wrong. I'm I'm glad to be wrong, but I'm I'm of that view, I'm afraid, at the moment. You know? Yep. And the same with Farage over here, which everybody likes. He's just a complete baller. He's a joke. You know, the guy's a joke. He sure is a good speaker though. He's a good speaker. Oh, yeah. He's charming. He smokes a nice cigar. You could just say, I wouldn't mind sitting down with you and drinking a brandy in front of a nice roaring fire. We could just talk all night long. Yeah. Cool. But when push comes to shove, right, he's, he ain't his own man. He just isn't. And they he just kick I don't know if you follow it over here. Not that I follow it much, but there's a chap in his party, in the reform party called Rupert Lowe, who actually is one of the few people that talks like a grown up. Right. Seriously.
No. And he kicked him out of the party because he was becoming so popular. He feared that he was gonna overthrown. Well, he needs to overthrown because he's no good at leading the party. He's good at getting attention, but he's he's too much of a lone,
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you know, a lone operator. I heard somebody talking about that guy recently and the situation with him and Farage. Yep. Who I just I'm sorry, Paul. I know he's probably a scoundrel, but I can't help but like you. Now,
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That's what but isn't that the definition of a
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scoundrel? Probably. But but here is the the the big question is, can anybody get control without this parasitic force being attached to it from one of their factions? I don't I don't know that it's possible.
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Well, there has to be. I know this is sort of sounds it's a cliche, but I don't know how to avoid it. There has to be, and you may find a better way of phrasing this. There has to be a spiritual regeneration of the English and of the Scots and of the French and of the Germans and of all these nations. They've got to completely divest themselves. It's gonna be tricky. I I accept this. Of giving one second of attention to these people. They've got to stop that. They've got to, and put their attention into their local communities and and find a way to restore strength. Why don't you get to be something like that. Decentralization.
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Brent, why don't you weigh in? You've been mighty quiet. I'm concerned.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Well, no. Here's what happened. I'm glad I'm glad that, he got his tongue limbered up a little. The thing that I did have him Well, I'm glad you're glad, Brent. Oh, yeah. Of course. But I thought that maybe you would I get to, oh, here's what it was. The European Union. I don't understand what's going on. I remember that you folk over there had a vote, and you voted to get out of the European Union. It was clear. Of course, Viraj was involved as the big shaker and mover then. And then it just seemed like everything went, quiet, and you're still not out of the European Union. And then I hear people in the news talking about whether they're they got the plan in motion to get out of the European movement, but it's gonna take time. What's the status with all that?
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Well, they only left half heartedly because they didn't think that we would actually vote to leave. So, inside where wherever these halls of power are that we refer to, but wherever they are, the those people are operating like they've always operated, that we're in charge of the country, and what the peasants want is of no consequence whatsoever, and they're very irritating by choosing this path. So what we will do is we'll we'll use soft kill. That's my take on it. So they're just gonna wear everybody out and just bore of it. I mean, Starmer, this strange sort of agglomeration of molecules, this odd thing that's useless. I mean, literally, absolutely useless, but that's exactly what the reason why he's in. So they all take their my simple take on it to avoid me wasting thousands of hours trying to go through all the minutiae I have is they all take their orders from the money power, and the money power wants centralized control. So it doesn't want us doing this. And, of course, the situation with England is that the migrant situation is warfare by any other term.
None of these migrants are getting under here under their own steam. They never have. They are being brought here under the guise of humanitarian kindness on our part, which, of course, suckers over here. They fall for it, particularly the women. I've got it's just I'm afraid it's the case. Oh, yeah. We've got to help everybody. It's our obligation to do it, you know? Okay. So yeah. So you keep doing that. And then what happens in eighty years time when we're I mean, they're saying by 02/1950 here, we'll be a minority in our own country at this rate. And that's the plan. That's the intention. Yeah. Absolutely. Happen.
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You know? Absolutely. His this storm where I'm he's a rascal. I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen anybody as bad as him in open any politics, any country
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in the world, overall my lifetime is as bad as this guy, especially in Well, he makes Biden look smart, doesn't he? I mean, that's think about what I just said. That's just horrific what I just good.
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And the stuff he does is just unbelievable. The things that are happening that I hear about with the the stabbings and the way they turn everything upside down like Biden and his bunch did in our country. It's, it's you know what? It basically reminds me, clockwork orange is what always comes to mind.
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Well, it just reminds me of the Bolshevik Revolution a hundred years ago. It's exactly the same. The the the you're just anybody that's familiar with that, it's the criminalizing of words, which therefore shuts down thought, which maybe which therefore stops you identifying who's causing you harm because you can't name them in public because that's hate speech, blah blah. So it's the shutting down of the mind so that people can't even communicate the ideas necessary to begin to mentally and then spiritually defend themselves. That's what they do. That's my take on it, and that's what's going on here, which is why participating in their communications arena is completely pointless. There's no point to it. No.
We've got to get people to that point where they dismiss them. In other words, the the man that runs the the the local coffee shop should feel superior. We've got to get him to feel superior to the political class because he is. He only has to do a few honest things a day, and he's already way streets ahead of where they're at. One of the interesting points as well that, Belloc mentioned with this sort of internal collapse of the structure of Catholicism or the structure of the, of Christendom through the church was that they'd had rumblings of it falling for they knew. They're like these warnings just like we've been talking about them for donkey's years. This is the best show before us. This is the best show ever. There's never been a radio ranch on on Friday as good as this. It ought to be, starred in the archives.
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K. Thank you, Farris. Well, we'd like to try and make all of our shows as good as this one. We love it when Paul is able to drop by and converse with us and expand our knowledge on where he lives and how much influence it has on us and has for one heck of a long time. So, anyway, it's the end of the program. We will no doubt continue a bit I don't know if the music just dropped out from under me. And, but I wanted to promote again tomorrow. We're gonna go back. Paul, you may be interested in this. I'm gonna give, John and Glenn's tax information, that presentation tomorrow as is it's that time of year. And, I don't know if you got time. What time of year? What time of year is it? Tax year. April 15. The real April 15. I haven't filed a tax return for thirty years. I just don't play. Well, you may be interested in the process. This is John. I'm gonna tell you more about it than anybody in the world on our side. And we give their information to Mars. Quite interesting. You know when it started? Do you have any idea when the tax system were all under started?
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What? In your neck of the woods? No. I don't. No. In yours. I think about 1817.
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Twelve '80 '5.
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Twelve '80 '5. Well, yeah. They've had things like that. I mean, I was when you asked me that well, that's yeah. Yeah. I yeah. You're right. It's quite interesting. Anyway, we'll go over the whole history of it and how it works and some legal lessons in there and stuff tomorrow if you care to join us. If not, you can catch a Well, you know, I've got a little more time now. I'm having a weird time of it since since the events of the middle of this, month. And, it's very yeah. The days are very, very different for me. Very different for me. I would know. I would think in a Do I have more time? What am I gonna do with it? Spend some Saturday I'll spend Saturday afternoon with you maybe. I will I will bet that you'll find something to do with it. You think? Well, I'm pretty sure knowing you. Yeah. I'm very We're off the air on ours. It's a just a open
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kind of conversation. We're still on Paul's, recording device, but does we've been running our mouths for two hours. Do any of y'all have anything to ask or add? Usually, when you say that, it's like, you know, when the mother bird flies back with a worm to the nest of chicks, and I just Oh, sure. Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep. That that a lot of times, that's what it's like here. There's a little little one right there. Hey, Larry. What you got?
[02:02:00] Unknown:
Hey. Yeah. This is for both, Brett and and, Paul from England. So Brent started out the show talking about titles of nobility. And so it's my understanding that if a if a nation practices using titles of nobility, that doesn't necessarily take away from the fact that that country is a common law country. And the reason I say that is because, I guess, Paul from England would consider his country, England, to be a common law country. And I think the foundation of a country being a a common law country is if it has at its foundation the common law from the Bible, it's a it's a Christian nation, and then the cornerstone would be common law courts.
And so is is that accurate that having titles of nobility doesn't necessarily take away from the fact that the country is a common law country because we don't use them here in America, but I guess they would use them in England. And I was wondering what Paul thinks about that too.
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Well, you're right in that, yes, on a sheet of paper, it is written down that this is a common law country. But in terms of day to day living, they've managed to get hold of the process as it were, so that it doesn't manifest much if at all. Everything has been taken over by acts and statutes issued by government, which, of course, is on this path to rule everything because that's the culture that's built up there. Restoring common law, there are many people over here doing presentations on common law seeking to reignite it. It's gonna take, the restoration of common law courts, which as far as I'm aware, could take place in the in the room behind the pub. I'd be quite happy for that. So would most of the jurors probably because they could go out for a drink after they decided to hang someone or whatever they were gonna do. But in in terms of its practical care, it's not carried out much. It just isn't. I mean, we had a a home secretary, Jack Straw, of the tribe back in the nineties saying, oh, we don't need juries anymore.
They're they're old hat. We don't need them. Whereas, of course, it's the one thing that we absolutely must have
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Yeah. Yeah. To restrain and constrain the power of idiots like him. But, you know, he's not an idiot, really. It's just that his goal is completely the opposite of what ours is. I think you've got the same setup over there that we've got over here, which is, the constitution being overridden by the uniform commercial code. I think you're dealing with the same situation over there. Remember in the feudal era, if you, the the law that overrule that ruled over the manners was Mhmm. Was the Babylonian merchant code. It was the law merchant. And the reason for it was when before they switched to countries, back when it was all fiefdoms, and the fairs trading fairs would go through Europe and travel around. That was the law that was used in the trading fairs, was the law merchant. So they just transferred it to the manors.
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Yep.
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Yeah. I mean, there's been a line of of let's say it's progress from slavery to serfdom to peasants, and what they're seeking to do is to reverse that. Well, they yeah. Well, they've got us And they're a long way to it. They're a long way because although we are told over here that we live in a sort of free and democratic country, nobody experiences that at all anymore. And we were talking about it yesterday. No one or very few people can actually financially plan their life much for the simple reason that every single bill I don't know if it's the same with you. Every single bill that a normal household faces, either rent, mortgages, they've not affected so much with the interest rate. But rent, gas, electricity, services, utilities, council tax, which is this local tax, they just all go up all the time. The prices of everything keeps going up all the time, and this is economic warfare. There's no Yeah. You know, they will give you all these sort of apparent reasons for why it's taking place, but it's just it's an attack. It's an attack by using the machinery of civilization to effectively strip people of their purchasing power so that they can be, you know, controlled. I know you all know that, but that's that's it's very obvious that this is what's happening. The enemies are so
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in in command of these different factions, then they can weaponize them against us, and we don't know what's happening. This I mean, what does the Bible constantly refer to the merchants of the earth? Well, who's doing this? The merchants of the earth. Who are the merchants of the earth? What law does the merchants use? Well, since Babylon, they've used the Babylonian merchant code called the law merchant for a while still in some circles, now called the uniform commercial code. Well, they've been using that for thousands of years. They know how to take every element of that law that has a real good legitimate purpose and twist it around and use it on you. And that's why they're doing that is they've got this mastery of it. Same thing with the monetary system and the whole financial system. There are in the common law, there really aren't any kind of laws necessarily that apply to all these financial situations.
So anytime the financial situations come up, you almost always have to refer to the UCC. Roger? Yes. That's how those two bodies have been blended, by the way, the first time in Rome and, again, in our country. Okay. Who was trying to say something there? That was that was Brent. Can if you can hear me? Yeah, man. We can hear you, please. Yeah. Here. Here's what I wanna ask.
[02:07:53] Unknown:
These are things I've been wanting to ask for a long time, and, it just didn't work out right for whatever reason, and maybe this isn't the best time either. Now with all that introduction, I want to ask Paul. Paul is a man who he has told me at some time in the past, I don't remember, that he went up against the banksters in the courts of England at one time. And I've gone up up against the bank banksters, the big banks, some of them here in The States. And I've even gone into the appellate courts, and the things that I learned were instructive to say the least. But I've never heard Paul's story, which apparently was a, moment for him the way he told me a little bit about it. Paul's story of his experience going into the courts against the banksters.
Is that a story that's worth telling now? Or even, is it too long to reach it a little now? Or what what can we do there? Is it possible we can hear about that poll?
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Yeah. I I won't go on it greatly. I mean, I think many people probably heard it before. And if not, I could do a longer one at some other point. It's, it's half captivating and half embarrassing for me because because I'm an idiot in the process. I I went from being an uneducated idiot to being an educated idiot. And then after the court case, I decided to stop being an idiot. And that's what I've been doing here. I was a non I was a blind, happy, naive, positive, sort of 30 in my early thirties. Uh-huh. Interestingly, although I'm jumping ahead a bit, that, basically, what happened was that I bumped into someone, about 1993, '90 '4. So this is over thirty years ago. I can't believe I just said that. It's so strange, isn't it, saying things like that? And, I didn't know anything much about him. He was a very softly spoken man called Raymond Patrick Ibrahim Grant. He was as English as I am. Right? But he had this middle name, Ibrahim. The story came out later on how why he had acquired this.
But he was I just spent the eighties in a sort of marketing organization led by a guy who I thought, I'm never gonna meet anybody as interesting as this guy ever again in my life. Right? Maybe it's just because you're highly impressionable in your twenties and how wonderful that all is, frankly. You have all these sorts of ambitious dreams about things. So I had a I had a really good time in the in the eighties, but I ended up being sort of independent. And, what happened was we were hanging around in this space on Old Street in London called ASLIB, which is stands for the Association of Librarians.
That's exciting, isn't it? I can see you're all going, boy, do I want to be a librarian. Well Yeah. Actually, it was we're all there for really, ulterior purposes, which was that they were a sort of a slightly semi government funded thing. And controlling all the libraries of England in the early nineties, it was important. Right? You know, they've got to get all these textbooks and all this kind of stuff. But the main reason we were there is that they had this high speed Internet connection. It was an ISDN line at a 28 k.
Right? Now this was rocket fuel at the time because you you had a modem, which was like I can't remember what it was. It was a a 20 whatever it was, it was an astonishing speed. Right? I've got my numbers slightly wrong. And so it became a bit of a sort of, a honeypot for all sorts of strange and interesting people. There were, rocket scientist kids that used to come down from Oxford and Cambridge, all with their fuzzy beards, all eating pizza. So nothing's really changed. Right? This is in the nineties. All talking gobbledygook.
And they were great. They were really good. And they all came down there to sort of, you know, make use of this connection because they wanted to do coding and all this blah blah. Anyway, there were these other meetings that took took place. This guy turned up at this meeting. He handed me a copy of a newsletter that he was writing and circulating amongst, he said, about 15 or 20 of his business colleagues and partners. And, there was stuff in it, topics in it that I didn't even know existed at the time. There were just questions about things. I thought, what's this that I'm reading? Like, he did one on why Britain had been a haven for criminals for thousands of years from from Mainland Europe and how that had all worked for a long time, all the criminality in London.
I'm going, oh, that's interesting. Then there was a whole section on the control of the pop music industry. This is 9495 I'm reading this stuff about the use of lyrics, organized by Chatham House and the rest over here to assist with the breakup of the family, which is what the sixties was about. Okay? We're all teenagers now. And I think I've mentioned him, you know, my dad was born in 1920 yeah. All that stuff, you know. I guess it was groovy for some, you know. But when you're young, you don't have the discernment to even know what's going on. It's just like, I don't mind, you know. And, but my I remember my dad wasn't a teenager because they didn't have them in the nineteen thirties, did they? They didn't have them.
So, all these little things. So he was writing about topics I knew nothing about. And then he started to talk about banking. And I was, after about a year and a half of reading these things and meeting him sort of every couple of weeks, twice a month or something, he'd come along to these meetings of an evening. I gave up on the world, basically, Brent. I just went, this is a waste of time. There's There's no point me trying to build a business. I was trying to build a business. I just thought I was gonna be a normal guy and try and build a marketing business. So I was a freelance copywriter at the time.
So I'd always sort of read a lot and research books because I'd go along to briefings. I have to find out about strange products like widgets and things like this. You know, I didn't mind that. I find it quite interesting. And, and then I I suddenly, oh, this is pointless. Everything I'm doing is completely pointless because this whole thing is a complete scam. And then he said, yeah, it is. He said, and I ought to know because I'm part of it, and he was. Because what he what he showed me was the buying and the buying and selling of government debt is what he was involved with, the buying of treasury bills.
And what people are not aware of is that there's a premarket in treasury bills even to this day that's never reported at all. There's a premarket in it. And I don't know. Do you want me to explain this technically? It's not too complicated. But, for example because this will give you a it was all this stuff, and I just went, oh, this is just a joke. This is all a joke. I suddenly realized that money wasn't worth anything other than what they said it was gonna be worth. So, for example, if you think about companies that have got a lot of, think about insurance and pension companies.
So they back up, their investments often by holding t bonds, t bills, you know, government treasury notes. And they will pay slightly, maybe one point above the standard interest rate, and they run for twenty years, and then you get your money back and all this kind of stuff. And there's hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of dollars, pounds wrapped up in all this kind of stuff. Well, what happens is that a gov so the Treasury Department or whoever is sitting around, they go, hey, you know that Treasury bond that we issued twenty years ago for a billion pounds? I go, yes. The bloke that owns this, I'm just gonna sort of personalize it, he's coming in the office in in a month's time. We've got to pay him back. Have we got any money? No.
No. We ain't got any. Oh, crap. What do we do? I know. Let's issue some more. This is how it works. It's just a big pyramid scheme. Right? So they go, let's issue some more. So they go, yeah. We'll we'll issue $2,000,000,000 worth into the market. Then we'll have some money to pay him. I'm really simplifying the whole thing. Uh-huh. So, that's what they did. Now what happens is there is a thing in the contract called an exit price and, a pension company will come along to buy one and they will say, well, look if you buy this, you don't pay face value for this billion pound note. You can have it for 950,000,000.
You can save £50,000,000 by buying it and they go, okay great. So they make an agreement to do it say three months down the line and this contract is totally bound up with the bank so it always happens because it can't not happen because everything goes really, really bad if it doesn't happen. So the government has sat on this agreement. They're gonna get £950,000,000 in three months' time or the Treasury Department, whoever it is. Right? And they're going, well, that's great, but we'd take a lot less if someone walked through the door today and just give it to us. And they would.
So there's an exit price in the contract. So this piece of paper is absolutely worth £950,000,000. And so there's a private market with cash rich individuals and or major international corporations like the Ford Motor Company, for example, or General Motors or any of the major manufacturers that handling a lot of cash. Someone goes along to them and says, would you like to buy this piece of paper that is absolutely gonna be sold on this day in three months time for £950,000,000 or dollars? How would you like to buy it now for 600,000,000?
They go, would we? That would be great. Yeah. We'd like to do that. So there is a pre market in this piece of paper that runs for two, three months, or whatever it is. And, you can only get invited into it if you've been fully vetted by the banks, and you must buy it with cash. The banks don't lend you money to do this, although although they even have a way of doing that. And this piece of paper will exchange hands twenty, thirty, 40 times as it bumps up in price from 600,000,000 to 610 to 620, all the way up. So the last guy to buy it buys it for, say, 940,000,000, and then he sells it to the insurance company. They come and pay 9 and he makes £10,000,000 on it. There is no risk in that chain of exchanges.
None. It's you're buying something that's already way, way more valuable, than what you're gonna pay for it. You remember Roger Moore, the actor that played James Bond? Yes. He was involved in it. They invited him in because Roger had a bit of money. They said, would you like to get involved? They went, yeah. They said, okay. You can get involved and just make piles of money, but you must work for the United Nations. So this is how so it's a control thing. Now, you say, well, why do they need to do all this? Because cash, and this is why this CBDC thing is so dangerous.
Cash is the one bit of the economy that they've never been able to control, and they don't like that. No. Because you could go off and buy a bicycle, and they wouldn't even know that you bought it. Although with the Internet now, they know everything. Right? But at the time, thirty years ago, they don't like it. They want to know everything because they're seeking to manipulate the system 100%, a perfect internal control system from their point of view.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
I know that. There's a voice.
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Yeah. That sounds like chattel paper. I yield.
[02:18:47] Unknown:
It does. I was gonna have, Jefferson. I ran across a Thomas Jefferson quote. He was mentioned earlier in the show. He understood this. I don't know to what extent, but the quote was no discounting of notes. That's right. Series of what you did started with discounting the note.
[02:19:07] Unknown:
That's right. And they discount all the time. And there's a private discount market that nobody knows about. There's never reported on. And Ray did all this, and one of his clients was the Ford Motor Company in England. Okay. And he told me, he said, I make more money for the Ford Motor Company than they do selling cars. He said, and that's true of Altman and all these major international things. I had another guy called Steven who ended up working with him for a bit, and he sent Steven off, on certain meetings. And he was telling me at one, somewhere in Switzerland, right, you can't even look at the other guy that's in the room. There's like a protocol.
So you have to walk into this room backwards and sit down on a chair so that you don't see one another, and then they both talk to the wall. Oh my god. It's just bizarre. It's absolutely bizarre. And at first, I said, is all this true? He said, yeah. Yeah. And it's over the year and a half, I began to see it. So I was involved in something with him, and he was using me as bait. Right? So this guy was not right? He was using me as bait because he wanted to destroy the Bank of England, which, let's face it, is I how cool is that? Oh, yeah. So and the reason and he had I mean, it gets, now it gets into all this seedy stuff. Really, really foul stuff like the corruption, the sexual corruption of judges, and etcetera. All this stuff with the pedophilian stuff, he was aware of all of this.
I remember we were right driving around London One Point. He points to a street. He said, you know what? It's on that street. I said, no. He said, there's dungeons down there, and all the judges go there regularly. I said, okay. This is getting a bit weird. I'm in my mid thirties. I'm still quite naive. Right? That was way out back then
[02:20:50] Unknown:
Yeah. For people like us. Because it's shattering your illusion. The illusion that you'd grown up in your whole life. You know? Well, it's true, but I loved it as well. I absolutely
[02:21:02] Unknown:
It's provocative. But it made me impossible to talk to at parties. Everybody everybody thought by about '97 or '98, if I ever got invited to parties, I'd start talking. And people would just look at me, you're completely barking mad. And I'm going, okay. I don't know how much get another invitation from them again. And I'm I gotta tell you something I know. I wanna tell you something super quirky though because at the moment, since what's happened to me over the last few weeks, I'm tidying everything up. It's really good. I'm working hard on the house. I'm getting rid of loads of stuff because I've done nothing for eight years while I've been looking after my wife. Right? And so things have changed massively and and it's good. And it's a positive thing for me to do. There's the grief is over on one side Yep. But working is really good medicine. And I don't feel bad or ruined by all of this. I'm just going, this thing has happened to loads of people. We've all got that journey coming. It's shit that it happened so early, but I can't do anything about it. I did everything I possibly could to extend it. And I'm tidying all this paper up. Now, when I used to meet up with with with him on these service stations around the M 25, which is this big road that runs all the way around Greater London. It's about 250 miles all the way around. Okay? And it right now, at this time, it'll be absolutely cheek by jowl. There'll be people stuck on there for years if they don't go off right now because it's just crammed on a Friday afternoon. You can't get off it and on it. But, I used to meet him at all these sort of restaurants and stuff. And he would have a pen and a pad, and he would be writing notes.
And I would look at them, and I didn't understand what I was looking at. I said, what and one day, I said, what is that that you're writing? I said, it's not English, is it? He said, no. He said, it's Arabic shorthand. I said, okay. He said, actually, it's my own language based on Arabic. He said, I'm the only person in the world that can read it. I said, okay. So he said, so I leave all my notes around my office. Doesn't matter if they come in and steal it all. Right. Because no one can read it except me. And where I worked with him no. I mean, I I was telling my sons the other day, they said, dad, you really need to write a novel about this or something. I'm thinking maybe I do now that I've had thirty years to think about it. The place where I worked, the carpets were all electrified. If anybody came in, they'd get killed. There was, like, 40,000 volts running through carpets. There were secret compartments. I'm not kidding. It's like James Bond. There were sliding doors. Right? All this kind of stuff. He told me that he had, you know, you might be I'm getting carried away now, so you have to tell me to put a rein on it if I start running off at the mouth. But I have during the Cold War, they built all these nuclear bunkers around London. Right?
And there was one on a farm in Essex. There were several. It was so that the government bods could escape, you know, buy a special sort of tube train and possibly manage what was left of England if bombs fell on us. That was the idea. Essex A farm isn't Essex real snooty? No. It's it's a bit of both. It's got a very well-to-do bit, and it's also where your real sort of it's like the home base of East End Cockneys, where they've got where there aren't any Cockneys left. But that sort of real London and so you will, all that, they come from there. There's a they're they're different type of people from Essex. They're very sort of well, they're just the way that they are. And, he knew this farmer, and one of these underground bunkers was on his land, so he bought it off him.
It went down about I think he said about 15 levels or something. And he had it stuffed with cash. I know this sounds mad. Right? My lord. It's just he he was trying to seize all the cash out of the economy to to to asphyxiate what they were doing. It's just it's ridiculous stuff. So the inflation didn't show? Yeah. No. No. He just he knew that the pressure point was cash. If you force them to keep issuing cash, they can't manipulate the back end book to the same degree. This was there. No doubt with computers, it shifted on way way beyond that. But it's all about discounting paper in a private market, which is basically theft. It's theft from the people at large. And, he wasn't too happy about this because he came from a military family. He lost a lot of uncles and things in World War two. I met his mum who only had one lung. She was definitely of the military type. She'd come she'd been in the British army. And so he just came from from this sort of position, and he hated their guts. But he was very intelligent sort of guy.
And, I came across some of these notes, by the way. That's why I didn't finish off my story. In tidying it up, I came across this folder with a lot of the things that had happened at the time, which I've kept, including details of the court case and me appearing on the front page of a national newspaper and all this kind of stuff. Right? Much to the chagrin of the people that knew me, they didn't wanna talk to me. They just looked at this thing because on the Sunday front page of this major Sunday newspaper, and they all looked at me and went, right. Anyway, anybody wanna buy me something?
Right? I didn't know what to say. And my wife, she was absolutely fantastic. She just stood by me like a rock. It was just brilliant, really. And, but I came across these notes, and I showed them to my lads the other day. And I'm going, I said, look. See? It's real. They go, what is that? I'm just going, yeah. That's what I said. I said, don't worry. No one can read it. No one probably ever can except him. So one thing led to another, and, he'd formed his own bank, which they would say unlawfully, but he didn't care. We were quite cavalier about things as well.
And what he told me, which I don't think he intended to do, because when you think about it, this is so naive and stupid, was that we could take the profits from this paper trading, and we could redistribute it amongst the English people so that they didn't have to be in debt. Oh, Robinhood. Yep. Yeah. So I'm completely ripe for that. Right? It's just right up my street. Okay. And, so we issued these things called what were they called? PRs. I I don't know what it was an acronym for something. And you paid £60 for them. And at the end of the year, you got £200 back. Of course, everybody says it's rubbish, but it wasn't it wasn't rubbish. It was a fraction of what he was making off the £60.
Just he said, we can't give him too much because nobody even less. But we've gotta get a move on with it. And he but what he was really doing, he was he was sending out bait to attract in the other side. And, I remember when the the proverbial shit hit the fan as it were, he was just loving it. I was, of course, completely thrown and not a happy bunny because I didn't know what I was involved with. Right? I was just out there, like, you know, green as grass with the whole thing. But he loved being in court. If I he just told me. He said, for some reason, I've spent my entire life in court arguing against the authority. First time, he was eight, and he bore witness against a policeman when he was eight years of age. Yeah. Amazing guy. Just amazing. It's just the way he thought.
And and I knew these other guys that were with us, and they would come up and say, can you figure Ray out? I'm going, no. Nope. I've never met just the way he thought about things. It was it was quite a journey, really. And, yeah, that we we went to court, but he refused to appear. He was the number one defendant. So I go into court on the first day. This isn't the hike I don't know if you ever see it on the TV, but it's the biggest court in English. It's the Strand. Right? It's the wrong court justice. Called the king's bench. Yes. A king's bench and all that is there. I go into that. I'm completely out of my depth. Right? And, I went, he didn't even turn up.
He didn't bother to come. I'm going, what? I'm calling him on the phone on the train going back on the first day, which was a Tuesday. I'm saying, where were you? He said, I can't be bothered to come. He said, I'll tell you when we meet at the weekend. He said, but I've got I I said, I've got my people in the courtroom. He said, you did really well today. I said, okay. Okay. I met him at the weekend. I said, why are you not showing up? He said, the charges are not heavy enough. I said, what? He said, the this is flimsy stuff. What he told me was he had he had evidence on the corruption of the British government going all the way back to World War two, and they knew it. They knew that he had this stuff.
So what they were doing is they were running interference with lesser charges so that he couldn't bring this stuff out as part of his defense, because they knew well, that's exactly what he wanted to do. And I remember him telling me he met with a silk, so a silk slightly higher than a barrister over here, because he had a lot of powerful friends, even though he'd taken a vow of poverty. I know it sounds odd, but he had. Right? He didn't pay himself much. He said, I'm not interested in all that. And, the silk had said, well, look, if we do this and we do that, we can get you off. He said, I don't want you to get me off.
And they were going, well, he said, I I I can't take the brief. It's my job to get you off. He said, I'd be I'd be going against his oath or whatever it is. He said, you can't employ me and have me work to get you prosecuted. He said, right. Okay. Well, don't bother don't bother then. It was, there are lots of oddities about it. You know, you'd seen things on TV, think, well, no, you fight like mad to defend your honor. No. No. No. No. He wanted to get trapped even more by them, and they wouldn't do it. And he he had people. So at the time, there was an agency over here called the the DTI. It's being disbanded and replaced by some other alphabet thing, which stood for the Department of Trade and Industry.
He had I went in and sat down with him some weeks after this initial court thing. And, he said, hey. Read this. And it was a report on him, walking his dogs late at night and everything. I said, what's this? He said, well, he said, this is a DTI report on me. I said, well, how did you get that? He said, I've got guys in the DTI that work for me. I'm just going, what is going on? So it's like, yeah, I got into it was just bizarre. It was really, really bizarre. Every time I spoke to him, there was a new door opened up in terms of what was taking place with the logic of the situation. So he'd planned this very deeply and was seeking to disrupt certain things. It was fascinating. He he got locked up, in, where was it, Colchester Prison or somewhere. So I go to see him. He came out happy as Larry. He's in his orange suit. I said, are you okay? I said, yeah. I'm fine. It's great. He said, I've just he said, I'm working with loads of guys in here. He said, I'm I'm quite busy. He said, I'll be out in a few months. He he did he just couldn't care less. And, he said, I'm getting loads of them off. He said they're all coming to see me. He's got all these clients in prison. Oh, they have to kick him out real quick. Yeah. He was just sorting through their paperwork and getting them to get all their cases dismissed and everything. He said they all like me in the air because he wasn't a physically strong guy. He wasn't a tough guy. He was a highly intelligent, desk man.
And the story of how this came about, whilst I'm at it tell me to shut up because I'm you know, if if if if you've had had enough. But I said, how did you get into all this? I said, what happened? You know, how why do you do this? And, you know, because he trained as an an engineer at Hawker Siddeley, the the people that made the Harrier jump jets. He worked as a on jet engines when he was 16. He left school. So very bright. He's an engineer, really. And, he ended up working at Dickson's, which was a massive electrical retail chain here in the eighties. Late seventies, eighties, early nineties, huge. They had hundreds and hundreds of stores selling Japanese TVs and cassette recorders and all that kind of stuff, PCs when they first came out. Yeah. And the head guy that ran it was a guy called Stanley Kalms of the tribe. Okay?
And Ray was running the computer department there early on. He'd he'd end up getting into computers because so that was where so he's running a midi or a mini. Remember mainframes and all that kind of stuff before the PC? And Stanley Combs took a shine to him for some reason. He said, look, I'm going on a buying trip to buy all this stuff. We're gonna go to Tel Aviv, and then we're gonna drive all the way back in my Bentley. And I want you to come for a few weeks. He said, and I'll show you, you know, what we do. By the time Ray got back to England, he hated Stanley Combs, and he hated Dixons.
Because what he told me was, he said, they had about 40 import and export companies up and down this chain, which they owned, and they were raking it off on every single one. So that by the time the goods got into Britain, they cost what they did, and they pocketed all this money into secret accounts, which Ray found. He found a lot of money in these accounts that no one was supposed to know about because he was in charge of the
[02:33:34] Unknown:
Sounds like a Doge.
[02:33:38] Unknown:
Yeah. So what he did was he took all that money one morning and he paid it over to the Salvation Army. He just sent it to them. I remember him telling me this. This is so funny. Right? He said so I went in and I was just so angry about this that they were ripping us off that I just found it was a huge chunk of money, a couple of million quid, which had been huge at the time. He said, and I just sent it over. I think it was the Salvation Army he sent it to. And then he said, I went for my lunch break, and I was walking around. And they were in Paddington, which is sort of this region of London. And he said, I real he said, I knew I'd done wrong. I shouldn't have done that.
So he went to Paddington Police Station and tried to arrest himself. I said, what do you mean? He said, well, the desk sergeant just thought I was mad and kicked me out about four times. I had to keep going back in. He said, no. Look. I've committed a crime. They're gonna get out of here. They just wouldn't didn't wanna listen to me. He was mad. Anyway, this is what happened was that it it went to court. When it came to the bit like this account, the the legal representative for Dickson's denied any knowledge of it at all. Any. And they got him on a lesser charge, and they put him down for two years. It was some they made sure that nobody knew about these accounts even though the money had gone, because they were gonna use them again or whatever.
When he's in prison, he'd been in prison about two weeks, and, the warder comes to see he says, you've got two visitors. He said, I don't have any visitors. My mom came to see me whenever, you know. He said, these guys are here. They've got the authority to see you. They're they're gonna be here in a few minutes. So they came in to see him. They were from MI 5 or MI 6, something like that. And they said, we've reviewed your case. We know exactly what went on. We know that you were right, but there's nothing we can do in the public space without revealing all these things, so we're not bothered about it. But we like the cut of your jib and what you've done, and, we've got a proposition for you. You can either serve out the next three years here in prison, or you can come and work for us.
So he said, okay. I'll work for you. So they posted him to Saudi Arabia, where he ended up training the Royal Saudi Air Force because he was a an engineer, and he was training their maintenance crews on dealing with, British jet engines in fighter planes out there. This is in the eighties, the early eighties, I think. No. Maybe late seventies, something like that. And, they all liked him out there. This is why he took on this name Ibrahim and learned about Islam and all sorts of other things. He was well read in sort of lots of different ways. And, he ended up working for a sheikh out there called Sheikh Salah, which is a very powerful family. They had something like 450 companies, and they one of his construction companies ended up building Riyadh Airport for which Ray designed all the air conditioning systems.
And whilst it was at this point that this world of financial jiggery pokery came into his life because he said, he said, now when you're on large construction projects, there's a lot of cash all over the place, tons of it, and he was in charge of it. And he was so good with this. I could see for just the way his mind worked. He's absolutely he couldn't. He was just brilliant, really, with the whole thing. Didn't miss a thing. And, so Sala just came to trust him like his right hand man, and, he did a very impressive job for him whilst he was out there. And, they found out about this circuit with this buying and selling of government paper, and a guy turned up. So he was thinking about it, and he said to Sal, he said, I'm gonna do this. So Salah said to him, I'll lend you the money. He said, no. He said, if it goes tits up. He said, you'll never trust me again, and it'll ruin our relationship. So I've saved the money from what I've been doing, and I'm gonna do it. And I think he had £10,000,000 at the time, which was quite a bit.
He said, I'll I'll do it, and then we can watch it and see how it goes. He said, you could maybe help me in some ways. He said, sure. He said, but I'm gonna take the risk financially. So, they set it all up. They do it sign a contract. He pays this money over, and they're expecting to get a payment in six weeks time. And these payments would come through once a week, at this time, in briefcases or suitcases full of cash. How about that? I know it sounds mad. And, he said, so the the guy turns up on the first week and gives them, I don't know, £4,000,000 back or something. He was gonna get £4,000,000 a week for, like, forty weeks for 10,000,000 I mean, it's just astronomical. It's so stupid when you look at it. Right?
The numbers are just mad. So this guy comes in. He drops this suitcase off. They look at it. And Salah says to him, what do you think? He said, I think he's just given us a bit of my own money back. And they they both agreed. He said, can you can you bugger him about a bit on his flight back? And Salah said, sure. Yes. So he said, this poor guy, they made him miss every train, every plane. There there were delays because he owned all these companies that were transporting him back to the airport and stuff like this. But, anyway, he managed to get back in another ten days or whatever it was, and this went on. And he ended up understanding it more fully.
He ended up running it for this shake. His reputation grew because he had ironclad integrity around this stuff. He took a very small fee. I think he said his his fee was 1%. I said, oh. He said it's more than enough. And he and he learned more and more and more about it. And as he learned more about it, he became more and more angry about it. It was as simple as that. So he was a, very a very interesting guy. And I know someone visit when he he just moved back to England. He'd been back in England about two years when I I met him because his mother had got ill. So he'd moved his entire trading operation back to this house out in in Essex. My friend went to see I never got to see him at the house because he was he was quite a private man, but a good colleague of mine had met him there.
And inside his converted office, he had 48 telephones, all of them on scramblers, because they didn't have encryption and the Internet then. Right? All of these telephones. Because he's talking to all these people. There's there's about 20 he told me, so there's about 25 people in the world, of which he was one by now, who buy and sell this paper on behalf of this structure, as it were, to make money for whoever their clients are. And they all need to know each other. And it's all scrambled, and it was just this it was like sort of James Bond on finance and stuff. And, yeah. So wacky. Wacky. And Wow. We ended up just running foul of the whole thing, and I ended up in court. And then after that, my real because the court was run by, members of the tribe.
In fact, the guy the head guy was a guy called Neuberger who talked, who lied twice. I would no one else would have known, but I knew. He lied twice. He just started making numbers up in his head about things. And I'm going, what are you talking about? And, then they find us a million quid, which was a bit of a blow. That was supposed to fall on Ray, but he was nowhere to be found. So I thought, this is not looking so good. So I lived on cash for six years. I, I just I couldn't be part of this. I didn't really I had a bank account, but I didn't use it. And I just managed I got some friends who'd been part of what we were doing in Europe. I ended up working for them in another capacity, and they paid me cash, and I managed to muddle through. So maybe I should write it down. There's a there's a lot that I've missed out. It's It sounds like an intriguing,
[02:41:17] Unknown:
intriguing Yeah. Book, really, Paul.
[02:41:21] Unknown:
I need to send it into a film. I don't know who's gonna play me. It wouldn't be Tom Cruise. Would these two
[02:41:26] Unknown:
If there's anybody listening to me, I may. Not know. Give me just a second. Let me say something, Dave. If there's anybody here that hasn't known or or is new, this is the guy the way we do things around here is all responsible. And this guy right here. Yes, Dave.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Paul, what a fascinating story. You know, my stepfather was an MIT grad, and he was a city planner. And he rode on a bicycle in the sixties, and he designed the city, one of the big cities in in Saudi Arabia. I don't know which one. He's not listening to him, but he looked exactly like Benny Hill. This this story you're telling, I'm I'm watching in my head Benny Hill and Monty Python troop running around. That's who you need to get to right, to help you make a movie out of this. This is incredible stuff. You're amazing, guy. Brilliant.
[02:42:21] Unknown:
It is. It's brilliant. Thank you. It it it is. It's it's absolutely amazing stuff. It it it was. And we were I mean, there were about half a dozen people that I knew that he was telling it to, but I really bit hard. I just sort of, like it really got me. Because, you know, when you're young and you have an instinct that something's absolutely not right and you don't know what it is, you just don't know what it is. You just go, this ain't it shouldn't be like this. My my instinct for that started when my dad would come home with all this cash, because he was a travelling salesman. He would count it all out, and they didn't pay him enough. They didn't pay him enough. I couldn't work it out. I just couldn't work out why he'd had all this cash, and he didn't I didn't think it was all his. That's still what I'm saying. But it it just struck me. The whole thing with money was always perplexing to me. I couldn't and I could see you can see that it's the cause of so much pressure. It's their great control tool.
And when when he showed showed me that this is what they were doing and they they've probably got other things now. I mean, maybe that's just peanuts, but at the time, that's what they were doing. It's kinda pre Internet. This is how it all worked at that time. I just came to the view that that it was literally pointless trying to build an honest business. What is the point? The whole of society is basically suborned to this, and it needs to be destroyed. And I've never changed my feelings of view. So I've been holding on to that for nearly over thirty years. And, finding how to do it, though, then you study all the history of it and you go, I don't know. Well, there's a lot of other people now. I oh, lots of people are aware that there's charging of interest on loans and this manipulation is very, very bad. It's not and then you find out it's not biblical. And that's what I've said before. I came into looking at scripture because of this monetary thing. I wanted to know what scripture said about money and how do we deal with it. And then you start studying Babylon, and you see the whole line of it, and it all comes down. And, fundamentally, all complexities aside, nothing's changed. It's human nature of certain people that are nearly human, I suppose, to want to subjugate the rest. And and the control of the bank has been their greatest weapon. It still is.
And if they get CBDCs, it's like, you know, a thousand atom bombs going off. It's not gonna be good for us because their track record's not good, is it? The battle we fight today
[02:44:33] Unknown:
is the same battle that's been fought from the beginning of time. Yep. And that's Lex Rex versus the common
[02:44:41] Unknown:
law. It is. It is. And I think, you know, it puts into it's why I get quite inspired about the fact that Christ whipped the money changers. It's it's I'm going, hey. I'm with you. And I keep thinking that if I had a time machine, that's the one day in history I'd go back on. I mean, maybe it should be to go and see him building the pyramids, but I think that's a long time ago. That's the day I would pick, the whipping day. And I've got this I think I've mentioned it here before. I've got this book on my shelf by this guy, the American economist, Michael Hudson. He's still alive and writing some great stuff. He's very sharp. I've seen him on Kaiser's video. Very sharp. And the this one's called And Forgive Them Their Debts.
And it's about the year of jubilee and the dynamically positive things that occur from it. And if we wanna sort you know? So, like, when I watch the economic news here, which I don't really, because they're all going this, that, the other. We can't do this. We can't do that. No. None of them understand. Of course, none of them be able to do it. They get killed if they tried to do this, like Caesar did, because that's what Caesar was gonna do, is you just forgive all the debts, and then the whole of the civilization can breathe again, and it will grow again, because it always does.
But the people that are holding all the debt, you know, the creditors, they don't want that. So that's anyway, it's nothing new. And the big deal is to
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this is a great phrase, the lev the leaven of the Pharisees. K? Well, leaven, of course, is yeast. And if you wanna see the leaven of the Pharisees over here in this financial system present day, we've got 37 doll thousand trillion dollars of fictitious fraudulent debt that everybody's scrambling to try and pay a trillion dollars a year in interest alone, and they wanna hook you to that debt. And what we do is unhook you from it, and they can't say anything. And, eventually, should that go on theoretically, they would eat their own paper.
We'll see.
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We'll see. Yeah. We will see. I think we just keep plugging away. If somebody wants to act you something yes, ma'am?
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Well, there's there's three. And I'll just rattle them all off and whatever you wanna answer. Okay. So, is there any investment for older I guess, that's kinda like a dumb question since, you know, it's all it's all a setup. You know? Is there any investment? QVC Trust, did he mention your the guy that you learned from, did he mention anything about that? And then there's this thing about oh, I forgot the name of it. Shucks. Third one, I forgot. I forgot the name of it. Okay. I yield.
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No. I don't think we didn't talk about that much. The one thing slightly aside from this that got me as much as all the financial stuff railway station on the East Side Of London because I was living on the Western. So it's like, an hour and a bit to get home. It's a Friday evening. And we're driving along, and there's one of these really miserable government buildings. I don't know what yours are like, but ours are just architecturally devoid of anything. They're just like blocks of you know, they're like commie bits of garbage. And it was a single story building, like a big long shed. And he said, do you know what that shed is or something? I said, no. He said, well, that's the place where they gather in all the birth certificates.
I said, what? From where? He said, well, the local area. He said he said, they're all over England. They said they gather all the cert Yep. He said, do you know what do you know what they do with the certificates? At at the time, I said, no. What do they do with them? He said, well, they bundle them up. They send them off to the treasury. And, the treasury, once a month or whenever, will look at everything that's come in. And what they do is they come up with a figure of how much income tax they expect that baby to pay when it becomes fully employed in the economy, and they'll come up with a a number. And then what they do is they use the birth certificate, a surety for a loan, to borrow that amount of money from a private bank Mhmm. At interest to fund what they're gonna keep on doing. In other words, they're basically using you as collateral for a loan. And I got very, very cross about that.
Very easy. The
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the the birth certificate, they're using it in a dual capacity there as a representation of your birth. And on the other side, they're using it as a warehouse receipt, a commercial document. Yeah. They are. The where the paper the warehouse receipt actually takes on the quality of the good and becomes the paper. So and that where they were keeping them in the shed, it was in a safe. Go ahead, Paul. Sorry to interrupt.
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Yeah. No. I mean, it's just it was more of an emotional moment. We didn't discuss it technically. It's just the thought that you are going to be deceived before you're even conscious into being placed as surety for alone is just repellent. And it but it's so useful in the sense that it reveals the mentality of the other side, and they literally do view you as chattel.
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And their book says they have the right to own us and do that. And that's how they use plausible deniability, rationalization, and justify themselves.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's true. So, you know,
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which temple do you wanna go to? Mammon or God? It's that's it. Really? It is. It really is. It always comes back to this. Just like I said, Lex Lex Rex versus the common law. It's what we're doing here, thousands of years later.
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So Pun. So how are you? I just I do think we kind of need this spiritual restoration to give people insight as to why it's valuable that they don't go into the temple of Mammon. Yes. But it's very difficult because I think that the other aspect of it is on a sort of day to day pragmatic basis is I view the use of money. They've turned us like drug addicts. It's like a drug. If you think about it, but you need more of it, don't you, next year to maintain the same hit this year. That's designed. So you are now dependent on the drug supplier, which is the the people that issue the credit. That's exactly what they want. You can never get your brain free up free enough to start thinking cogently and coherently about the things that really matter. We are compelled to think about all these things that fundamentally shouldn't exist, that are bogus and really don't matter because they're nothing to do with having a happy family life. And that's why we can't get one. You know. We have us worshiping the golden calf of materialism.
Yeah. Well, I suppose, you know, from an enlightened view, you could say that to a great degree we brought it on ourselves, and it's the internal battle that we've all got. And I think we do all have that battle. Exactly. I agree. You know, we've all had it, and it doesn't go away. But talking about it helps us at least recognize that internal battle. And you go, shouldn't you know, is it better if I can find a way of working with other people where we all contribute to one another? I know it sounds a bit sort of hippie dippie la la la, and that's why you need law because people will take even advantage of your good nature as we well know. They they do it. But we really want to express ourselves, I think, in that way. We just you know, it's much better to be kindly to other people and have them be kindly back than to seek to view other people as some sort of thing to be exploited.
Yep. And that's, you know anyway, they're staying the obvious. Where the cold and the hot water collide right there.
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Mhmm. Yeah. Please feel free to come back tomorrow, if you want to. I think you'll find this information pretty interesting. I'm gonna go here in a second. I gotta my stomach's driving me crazy. There was who was trying to say something?
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Female? There's a Yeah. There's a spec trading I'm sorry. I keep I keep jumping in. But there's a spec of trading where, oh, I think the stock's gonna go down by, you know and I forget the term of it.
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Shorting. It's a yeah.
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Did did he talk about any of that?
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Your the the guy you learned from? Yield. No. I'm sure he was he was aware of it. He I mean, he had he even he even trained, forex traders and had a team working for him, and would fund them and watch them. He was extremely, tight. One of the things he but it was for good reason. I remember him talking just about setting up businesses. He said, you'll find that people set up a business and it'll be working and going okay. And then, another one will come along that might tempt them or they think that because they've been a success of this one they should do this other one. And he said and what you will find often is they will take money from the successful business and put it into the start up. He said, and I never ever do that. And the reason he gave was, he said, first of all, you're wounding a thing that's healthy, your existing business. You're actually draining it down. You're making it operate under a burden, and that's not good for it. It'll you know, if you got people working there, they'll become slightly demoralized because they don't see the full fruits of their labor coming back to that business or whatever. So that's the first thing. The second thing is he said is that your new business, you'll never know whether it's really viable or not because you're propping it up with this support from elsewhere. If the idea is sound, it can go literally from nothing to a lot if you've got it right and you develop it that way. I think he made an absolute fortune when he was a teenager with, selling bicycles.
It was just amazing. He sold bicycles. And and, yeah, he ended up with four bike shops. He just he he had that quality that I absolutely do not have. I don't I don't have this there's some people just have that touch, don't they? They seem to be able to deal with detail in a way. He struck me in in his business dealings as extremely honorable, but he was so naive. He told me when he was young as a teenager, he ended up in a terrible pickle with the inland revenue. He owed them in the end, he had to pay £1 tax. Oh, he had to sell all these bike companies to friends of his. They said, you've not been running this right. We know it's made loads of money, but you're in a lot of trouble, so we're gonna buy the business off you for a pound. And it really all this sort of machinery of administration, he had become extremely familiar with it and reveled in it in a way. It was his it was his skill set. And, I found all that stuff incredibly unappealing and of no interest whatsoever, but it is important. You know? Yeah.
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Yeah. Who said Paul?
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Oh, is it I didn't mean to interrupt. I just wanted to ask to point out something. You know, one of the the biggest things in the Bible financially that's overlooked back then because they didn't like it. God wanted them to have a jubilee, which they never really performed very well on nor did they leave leave their land lay fallow for seventh year. And a lot of people would make the argument that's one of the reasons God was always unhappy with the people. I yield.
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I think there's a lot of truth in that. Yeah. Well, that's what Hudson's book is about. It's about the year of the jubilee. There's forgive them their debts as opposed to not opposed to, but not forgive them their sins, forgive them their debts. There's something dynamically it's like a good bridge of a sentence. It connects these two things. He makes a kind of proposition that Christ was fighting the money power of the day, and he was. He was. It's very interesting. Because he took I think after that, and I'm not familiar with this, he's dragged off to give a sermon, and he reads something from Isaiah. And everybody in the congregation's not happy because the implication of the reading he's given is you've got to forgive all these debts. You've got to let go of everything. And this is they get really angry with him. I did remember this bit. They're gonna throw him off a cliff. It's a bit of a tough day or a tough couple of days that. He's out whipping people, and he's gonna get thrown off a cliff. So that's what it's that's what you're up against. And like I mentioned, Caesar, when he came back to Rome and he was about to be emperor, there are 150,000 people sleeping in the streets in Rome. He's going, what's going on? Here we are running this big thing, this empire thing, and everybody in Rome's living like crap. So he was going to he was in the process of issuing a jubilee, and that's why he got stabbed because the patrician creditor class were in favor of that. So they killed him. They like their vigorish.
Yeah. They like the vig. They do. So nothing new. No. It's just it's it's exactly the same except with mobile phones. It really is. I I I totally agree with you.
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Yeah. So, well, I'm gonna go eat some lunch, Paul. I'm glad you're I think you should. I'm thinking of you getting too thin. I don't like the idea of you getting thin, actually. Pretty thin. That's pretty good, observation all the way from over there. Yeah. And I think, the the events of the last couple of weeks were a blessing for everyone concerned. I've known about that situation for many years and Yeah. And can only imagine the burden that it put you under. And I I think, everybody's better off. So it's you I can hear it in your voice, actually.
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Yeah. It it's true. And it's actually amplified my connection with God. Yeah. It's actually a blessing. It really is. It doesn't feel like it at times as I'm sort of stumbling around a bit, a bit of a wreck. Yeah. But and I know my wife is really I got a lovely message from someone the other day, which was quite curt, but it was really good. They said, I'm so glad that your wife has gone and got rid of that vile disease. And I thought, absolutely. Yep. Really. Yep. Really. And so I'm thinking of a this is the thing that sort of what's happened is that period, of eight years, you just adjust to things. This is our great strength or weakness. You don't realize how you're operating.
And as soon as it got lifted, I felt weird. I felt I still feel a bit odd now. It's like refamiliarizing myself with the person I used to be up to about 2,016 or 17 when this all started. You know? And, so the period of her illness is fading from memory quickly, which is great. And I'm now looking back on all the good years and thinking she's on to good years now. I'm absolutely I know it. I know it. It's so it's
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My wife died in 02/2003, second wife of cancer. And when she finally and I was by her though you know, with her the whole time. And, when she finally passed, I I went outside and just screamed thank you, God, to the heavens because she was in a much better place. And overseeing that and being responsible to try and help somebody in that situation is quite draining. It's very demanding.
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It is. I'll say one last little thing on it now because I'm gonna say this at the memorial service in a few weeks' time. I don't have the date yet. When she was passing on that evening, and I knew she was going to. I knew all day. We had the TV on, which sounds hellishly Philistine. It was at a very low volume, and it just worked. It was just putting an atmosphere into the room. It was good. It was, I don't know if I think I might have played this clip the other week. I was watching Wolf Hall, which is about Thomas Cromwell. Oh. And, literally, at the moment that she passed, which was effortless I mean, it was so graceful.
It really was. It was amazing. Not a noise. Nothing. It just Yep. Re really quite a thing. And, the character on the screen said, literally, at the moment she's passing, there are no endings, only new beginnings. And I just went right at that very moment, I thought, thank you. Thank you, Dodd. You know? Yeah. So it's true. And it's a very encouraging thought. And, isn't life stunning? It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. Yeah. It really is. It's absolutely you know, you stop taking it for granted the older you get. You just go, wow. Look at this. Yeah. It's wow. It really is. It is. It's absolutely incredible. So,
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anyway, made all the more so by being with you and and your good crowd. So I'll sit on and rock and roll and roll by tomorrow. Well, I think you'll find it very I think you'll find it quite interesting information. And, anyway, if not, we welcome you. And if you got other things to do, we understand. And, just a pleasure to have you, as all we especially here with Brent,
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the three of us. Thanks, Brent, for letting me talk so much. Yeah. I did talk a little bit. We'd love to hear it. Yep. I
[03:01:30] Unknown:
I enjoy listening because I get two reasons. I get tired of talking, but I like to talk. No. That's not true. Nobody believes you on that one. That's not true. Okay. I get you back. My voice gets tired. That's what they're saying. Okay. Alright. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. My voice gets tired. I just text or send a message to you because a very close friend of mine said, when she heard about your your wife's passing, she said my and my husband, when he passed, it was grief followed by relief. Yep. And, that's sounds like what you've described here a little bit. I haven't It's exactly that.
Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly that. Well, it helps me remember, what people go through. And as you said too, we all go through the hardships, whatever they are, and millions and millions have gone through them before. But when it's us going through it, it's it's our experience, and it's our our hardship, and it's our time. And I'm sure you know a lot of things or a lot of things have come home to you that you may have known before. You may have known about before, but you didn't know them like you know them now. I'm guessing.
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That's right. Oh, okay. Absolutely spot on. Spot on. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Oh, there's so much you said here on, about,
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about your own country, about the common law in England, and and what it is. You'd made the point about, the common law isn't followed much. It doesn't seem like and the same thing here. Administrative law has overwhelmed us with a a bramble bush of, covering. We can't even get the plow through it anymore, and that's what I'm sure you're experiencing there. But I still I still have hope because in England, from what I read, the courts still have the authority and the duty to to, overturn unconstitutional legislation and or maybe just in its application in that specific case. But your your constitution is like ours in many ways. Fundamentally, it is like ours, but it's not ours is written down and on the national level and on our state levels.
You know, we have with the idea of that's all separation of power Independent courts, independent executive, independent judiciary, everybody is committed to the same law. We are nations as common law countries under law, not under men, but men are constantly and women trying to assert their authority over law and make us and that our common law, though, I quote some famous maybe it's Gladstone, some famous English. Many said, many many in this chamber making a speech before parliament do not believe that our common law's hand is strong. He said, I believe it's unassailably strong no matter what happens.
And as much as we ignore it, it's still here. And as long as we do have trial by jury, and I understand you do over there still for criminal cases Yeah. Canada for criminal cases, you still have it. The the rate push here, as a practical matter, Christianity is at the foundation of our common law. It's just a story said in our our, push ought to be as a practical matter as Christian folk. As and you mentioned the importance of Christendom. Oh. Yep. I get that too. And I talked to two Canadians that were not across the border riding their motorcycles here not long ago. And one of them one of them was, RCMP, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, just on vacation. The other one worked for one of the airline. Young men. I say young, younger than me. They were in their forties and full of zip and vinegar. And they both said, well, I do believe that, Christian culture is indispensable to us. That was encouraging to hear from a couple younger fellows. But they weren't willing to say, I'm a Christian. You know, they didn't wear it out on their sleeve, but they were willing to say, well, Christian culture is good, and that's who we are, and it's really served us well. And I think that's what I hear you saying when you say Christendom is important.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. It's trying to find a word. It's interesting what you just said then about them saying that they're not Christians. And I think I understand why people wouldn't say that because over here, the reputation of the church, you couldn't even say it's in tatters. It just doesn't have one. It's just viewed, experienced by the vast majority of the people as feeble, completely almost silly. It's got nothing to do with what it's supposed to do. That's the perception of it, whether that's right or wrong. That's that's what's being built up. So people don't profess that. But I quite like the I'm always looking for a word that would bridge some understanding. And at the moment, I quite like this word Christendom because I would simply suggest to people, if you're of European descent, if you come from these people, our stock, you're a Christian. And then they go, no. I'm not. And now they go, no. You are.
You just don't know it yet. Oh, yeah. It's in your bones. You can't get it out. Thankfully, you've been it's been put in your bones and in your blood, and it and, you know, there's no point resisting it. We cultivate.
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Yeah. And we cultivate these ideas. Speaking of being in your bones, you're talking about that, churchyard, that that church that was so beautiful. Yeah. Remember that? Mhmm. Well, I'd heard a an eng a story once about an Englishman. And he was, somebody from Germany or Finland or someplace was, at his at his, home, and they were touring, a beautiful garden. Gardening is very important to the English, or you always has been. And I've never seen an English garden. I've never been there, but we had a song we used to sing as children about an English garden. I remember that. I can remember the melody.
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English
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garden. That's good one? That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That one that one. Well, this fellow was showing, this, fellow from the continent of Europe, the garden there in England. He said, wow. This is beautiful. He said, I wanna I wanna know how you do this. And they said, how you get something like this? I'd like to have something like this back, on my place. And, he said, how do I do it? And he said, well, you've got first you've got to have about seven hundred years. You can't do it. It's not something you plant in a group next year. It's something you, that's right. You know, it's over. It's interesting that these things have happened. And our common law tradition is something that has come to us by the providence of the almighty.
Even before our ancestors were Christian on the continent of Europe, they were pagan. But it came to us and the principles of it. But and then when the Bible finally was infused into the culture, they last on because they saw similarities as we say at home. And and those things have stuck with us for a hundred of years. We've hammered them out, and we've the the laws of nature is god, as we call it over here, our common law tradition, also called due process and all that. Well, I'd yeah. I wanted to hear your point of view. You filled in a lot of gaps for me about, the the leader of the anti European Union movement, Nigel, old Nigel. Yeah. And I I have in interviews of him sitting down and having a glass of beer with somebody, and so you made that point. He's a friendly, jovial chap, as they say over there,
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or bloke. No. Bloke is Australian, ain't it? Do you say Well, we call them blokes, sir. We call them blokes and chaps. Yeah.
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We do. Well, anyway, no. That was good. I'm glad you showed up, and I'm I'm glad that you're having a positive experience, cleaning out your house, going over all paperwork, old paperwork that reminds you of things that tell you you need not throw all that paperwork away because it may be something you need to write a book about the experiences. And you told us more about that stuff I didn't know because you had never told me about this fella you met and and all that. But yeah. Thank you much for showing up. And I'm like Roger. My belly got wrinkles in it, and I'm gonna try to take some of them out. Well, mine has two, but I'm it's still slightly too big. It's still a bit too big.
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I'm walking about four or five miles a day, and I've not got my walk in today. And it looks as I'm gonna miss it because I've just had so many other things to do. But, it's got to go. I don't I'm just looking going. I don't like this is no good. There's too much of me there, and I want it to go. I'm not I'm not gross. I'm quite fit everywhere else. But it's like someone's bolted a little sort of washing tub on the front of me, and I'm going, will you go away? It's just ridiculous. Yeah. It's gotta go. So You're walking on the beach. Right?
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Yep. It is. Good. You're a little more resistance, harder walking a bit. You Mhmm. Sitting on the sand, I guess. But Yeah. Yeah. And pebbles. We have a lot of pebbles here. You do a bit of that, and it'll take that washtub off of of you. Hopefully, I'm thinner tomorrow when I meet up with you, Roger, if I can do that. Okay? With us, my friend. And we always, we always enjoy having you around. You know? So, great. And, Yeah. Thanks for today. Thank you. You and the Friday show are a treasure, I think, and, I look forward to it every week. So, anyway, we'll see you hopefully next week. Good lord willing, the Creek Indians don't rise. And that means we're gonna see you. We get to see Francine. Always a joy too.
And, so we'll, look for you next week. I'll see you Sunday on your on your church service. And let me just give a plug for that. For those of you who may be new and not know this and you don't have a church home, Brent is on every Sunday from nine to eleven now, I think, central. And, it's a nice church home. You get down home, Brent, a lot of stories and a lot of good, biblical discussion. And you can find out about that, of course, over on commonlawyer.com. So thank you both always, and I'll maybe see you tomorrow. Brent, see you next week.
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Yeah. Right right on and right o, as they say over there. And see you both. Thank you, Paul. Cheerio. Pip pip. Cheerio.
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Cheerio. Chaps.
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Alright. Cheerio. Chaps. Cheerio, chaps.
[03:11:59] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Just before I go, I've set up that station thing for you. So if you use Teams to talk to me, if you can, that would be great. We could if you wanna use Teams, I've sent you a message on Teams. But, I've gotta go and do a few things now. It's just come up ten past seven here in the evening. So I've got a couple of things to do. But over the weekend or whatever, it's all set up and running. I've sent you the link to it, so you can go and look at and it's actually been streaming this show live as well. Okay? But it's early days, but, yeah, just give me a ping, and we can we can get that sorted out.
[03:12:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Cool. Paul? I actually haven't activated Teams yet. So, I I guess I will have to do that. I'll have to
[03:12:45] Unknown:
You're a hard man to get in touch with, aren't you? You know, covered in wires and things. You're a hard man to get in touch with. Well, I'll send it to you on Teams. Teams did.
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I'm hoping that Teams is, is less memory hog ish than Skype is because Skype just sends my computer right for a loop. The only thing worse is Telegram. The only thing worse. So
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Okay. Well, I'll give it a show. Give it a show. Oh, I I just It's worth it. Wanted to
[03:13:15] Unknown:
suggest, a water fast potentially. Done before in my life. I'm up there around your guys' age and, intending to do probably a week or so here in the near future.
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Just on one of the best ways.
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Just water. Good water though. Quality water. Maybe a little bit of support, but, you know, that's that's something you can look into. A lot of people have different opinions on it. However, the more you starve yourself, the more you release, the stem cells out of your bone marrow into the into your body to do healing at the same time. So Mhmm. Something considered.
[03:13:59] Unknown:
Well, I've got good water. I drink distilled water. So the water that we drink here is great. I'll I'll think about that. To it.
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Do you Okay. No. I don't know.
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Okay. I don't know. Minerals are, and that's not good.
[03:14:15] Unknown:
There are different schools of thought. There are different schools of thought on that to say that distilled water is the purest water that you can take, but it's incomplete and it's hungry. And it will it will attempt to chelate minerals out of your bones. So, use a distilled water, but get a good liquid mineral supplement and throw a few drops in there. And I'm thinking that you will see a difference.
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Okay. I'll check that out.
[03:14:47] Unknown:
I've got time to check these things out. Great multi mineral and vitamin all in one that comes in a quart bottle. It's what Wally talks about as being the 90 essentials. You know? I'll get on to that. That would be We'll get on to that. Thanks, man. Place to go for one one one stop shop. So
[03:15:08] Unknown:
I'll get it that. Thanks.
[03:15:10] Unknown:
No. That's great. Thank you. I'm gonna go now. I gotta go. And, might see you tomorrow, Paul, but ping me on Teams or on Telegram if if your computer works.
[03:15:22] Unknown:
Okay. I'll catch you later. Thanks very much for today. I've got some techie stuff to do today, and I've got some, serious paperwork that I have to do today and then then fax off. So, I will I will hook up with you tomorrow.
[03:15:36] Unknown:
Lovely. Look forward to it. Okay. Alright. Ciao. Thank you, Paul. Cheerio. Yeah. Bye for now. Bye bye. Bye.
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Cheerio. Adios and all that. So wow. Radio Ranch Friday edition with Roger Sales, Brent Allen Winters, and Paul English. Absolutely fabulous show. Thank you so much for joining us. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not longer, as evidenced today. For more information on the topics discussed, albeit not the the breadth of topics today, go to the matrixdogs.com. You can find links to Global Voice Radio. You can find links to Eurofunk Radio, links to free conference calls. You can actually join us live on the show and all kinds of other, interesting stuff that you can peruse. Thank you so much for being here. I am going to resume my day doing other things not radio related.
Thanks. Catch you later on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Don't forget about the Sabadeau edition tomorrow morning, 11AM eastern to 1PM. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:17:00] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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[00:01:47] Unknown:
And here we go. Gonna take another stab at it on, Friday, April, '4 '4 '20 '5. Roger Sales. And because it's Friday, mister Brent Winters and I don't think he's with us just yet, but he likes to he likes to have have, you know, appear late and have a little anxiety there, I think, Francine. And I know he's out there. Anyway, Brent will be along directly, and, we'll cover well, I don't know what the hell we'll cover. We never planned these things. Anyway, it's, Friday, and, Roger Sales here. Radio Ranch, the name of our little get together, and we, have a number of people helping us extend our reach and maybe reach you wherever you are in the world. And Paul Beener is the keeper of said, helpers, and we always like to have him give them proper recognition and, thank them for their efforts.
Don't we, Paul? And
[00:02:46] Unknown:
we do. We do. That would be me. We have a full complement of platforms today. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to, Paul, our buddy across the drink. We're on one zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago, part of the NET family of broadcast services. Other parts of that are homenetwork.tv, freedom nation Tv, go live TV, and stream life Tube. Those are brought to us by WDRN production Sport Collins, Colorado, also part of the Nat family of broadcast services. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and, his diligence and efforts toward, all of our freedoms.
We're also on Global Voice Radio Network this morning. Podholm is functioning beautifully for a change. Maybe I shouldn't say that. Maybe I'm tempting fate. Our website is, thematrixdocs.com, where you can find links to EuroFolk Radio, the, Global Voice Radio stream, as well as the archives on Castbox that are still up there, and more recent archives are on Global Voice Network. Just click on the archives button. You'll also find a link to free conference call there so you can join us live on the show. We've got room for about a thousand of you, so come on down, pack a lunch, stay the day.
[00:04:22] Unknown:
Morning, Raj. Yeah. Some of those folks do stay the day on the afternoon there. But wait. Hey, Paul. Morning. I don't think Brent's here yet. We've got a request from Eli that Brent's gonna field for us. Is he here? Am I missing him? I don't see him up there. Okay. But I can ask you in the interim until he arrives. How was, Paul, English on the show yesterday?
[00:04:49] Unknown:
Fabulous program. Great show. Yeah? He's, I I think it did him really good to be back in the back in the swing of things and Back in the saddle. Yep. What he's what he's been doing is, what he mentioned yesterday was that he's focusing on work and, focusing on his health. He's like, I believe he's walking five miles a day.
[00:05:15] Unknown:
Really? No. Yeah. Well, he lives right there by the beach, and I know he likes doing that. So
[00:05:22] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:05:23] Unknown:
And he
[00:05:25] Unknown:
did have, as of last night, every intention of joining us today. So Okay. Well, good. Maybe he'll pop by. It'd be great to see him. Always wonderful to hear that, English accent. So we're waiting on Brent here this morning. I think still. Alright. Well, he's out hunting hunting a Wi Fi spot or something. Well, we can carry on till he comes. Yes, sir. Who had a Roger there?
[00:05:49] Unknown:
Samuel. I believe it was just live. Bernie Bernie Sanders in the senate introducing a bill to stop the weaponry that's going to Israel, to stop the genocide, to stop Netanyahu. I mean, it was good. It was good stuff. Wow. I sent it I sent it to you. It but it was live, I think. So, but, man, did he nail it. Gotta give him credit.
[00:06:21] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'd, well, I'd love to see the internal, Jew factions fighting with each other. This is a throw down, it sounds like.
[00:06:31] Unknown:
Maybe He cited a lot of the Jewish sentiment in this country that's against what's going on over there right now. Oh, there's a lot of people that that they're you know, I have heard
[00:06:41] Unknown:
that over in Israel, they're they're about to go into revolution over there, but you're not hearing about it anywhere. They're keeping it.
[00:06:52] Unknown:
Yep. And and Netanyahu right now needs war to stay in power. So if we don't give him bombs, he's sort of screwed. And they're talking about, giving him another 15,000,000,000 in weaponry. Oh, we need to get rid of that. This is what Sanders is trying to stop. So he's introduced a bill, and, they're hoping they got bipartisan support to stop this.
[00:07:21] Unknown:
A lot of these weapons, I guess, haven't even been manufactured yet. You you want me to I'm a make a prediction they'll never stop it. There's too many of them that they have control now in the, Congress. And it's a it's an unfortunate side of Trump. I hate it. I understand it. And, maybe, I I pray that he'll see the light. K? I mean, I'm not kidding. I pray for president Trump and that he'll he'll see the light of the Zionist deception that's surrounding him. But Well, he married his kids into it. You know? I mean, what do you do when you marry your own children into it?
[00:07:58] Unknown:
But at least there's finally some some real opposition in saying it for this country, for us in this country that just abhor what's going on over there. You know? Well, it's it's
[00:08:09] Unknown:
it's becoming quite obvious. I'll get you a second, Bruce. It's becoming real obvious. And I who was it? It was Owen or Harrison? One of them, he says, look. 50% of the articles are for Israel, and 50% of the articles are against Israel. And all this is this battle of Israel crap. And they're really struggling because of all the recent TikTok things and the fact that the younger the younger generation is one of the most evidently conservative generations that's come up in our country in a long time. I don't know how long, but a long time. And that's got them kind of freaked out too.
So they're getting exposed. People don't like these murdering bastards. They've always been able to hide the lie and keep it hidden, and now they can't. Bruce, what do you got?
[00:08:59] Unknown:
I got an idea. And this comes back from '25 1860 with the the Abbevians, public met and decided to to succeed from the nation. Okay. We're nationals. We're just like they are. Why we petition the both sides of the the, Washington DC, Democrats and Republicans, and petition to succeed, from the giving this whatever they're giving to Israel. They're not part of us. They don't belong we don't belong in their affairs.
[00:09:40] Unknown:
We petition to them, Bruce.
[00:09:45] Unknown:
Well, it doesn't matter to them. It's us.
[00:09:47] Unknown:
Well, no. It does matter to them because they control us.
[00:09:52] Unknown:
They own us. They're national.
[00:09:55] Unknown:
No. They don't. They're well, anyway, they're not here. Speckling a speckling of us all over the frigging country. They own the country. We've been in Babylonian slavery for ninety two years now.
[00:10:09] Unknown:
But we're in the
[00:10:11] Unknown:
Well, I know Bruce Bale. Alright. Well, there ain't enough of us, Bruce. Our word hadn't spread enough. If ever we can get it spread enough, we may have that kind of power, but we don't have it now.
[00:10:23] Unknown:
Oh, you Roger, he also went after APAC, if you can believe that.
[00:10:27] Unknown:
Oh, that's good. That's good. We had a small I mean, I'm sorry, Bruce. Go on. Bruce, you're pie in the sky. Sorry. K? Good idea, not functional. Sorry. Roger. I I live in reality, Bruce, not fiction land. Yes. Larry.
[00:10:50] Unknown:
Yeah. You were asking how the Paul English show went yesterday, and I just wanted to mention, they were talking about capital punishment, and a lot of people don't realize this. Most people think that that hasn't taken place for a long time, so I don't know if anyone's aware of this article. But it says a South Carolina prisoner is the first executed by a firing squad in fifteen years. This was written on March 2025, and I'll just read a short two sentences about the situation. So this is out of Columbia, South Carolina. A South Carolina man who killed his ex girlfriend's parents with a baseball bat was executed by firing squad Friday, the first US prisoner in fifteen years to die by that method, which he saw as preferable to the electric chair or lethal injection.
Three volunteer prison employees used rifles to carry out the execution of Brad Sigman, sixty seven, who was pronounced dead at 06:08PM.
[00:11:56] Unknown:
Well, how long have you been in jail? Do you know he's 67? He'd probably been in jail for a while.
[00:12:02] Unknown:
Well, it it he it says Sigmund killed David and Gladys Lark in their Greenville County home in 02/2001 in a botched plot to kidnap their daughter. He told police he planned to take her to a romantic weekend then kill her and himself.
[00:12:19] Unknown:
So what's that? Twenty five years? I I don't know, but he just deserves to be out of the gene pool. It's too bad more of them aren't like that. Of course, this is the get rid of the death penalty and get rid of the guns are the two key things that the communist use at the end of their third stage to move to the fourth stage ultimate takeover. So the more executions for these heinous crimes, that take place, the the the more they're stymied in their takeover attempts. They've never been able to get the guns, and they've not been able to get rid of the death penalty. So fantastic.
Thank you, Larry. I I see Bruce's I mean, Brent has joined us, I think. Morning, Brent. I think I see you up there. Yeah. I'm here. I'm here. Hey, bud. Yeah. You can hear me. That's good. Yep. Before we get any further, because Eli sent me that yesterday, and I said, well, hell. I don't know. And I said, Brent's gonna be with us tomorrow. I bet we can ask him. He'd probably know. And I shot shot you the question, and you said, let's get after it. So I don't know. Eli, did you join us today? Are you in the audience by any chance? Star six. And, if not, he can listen at the front end of this recording and get his answer. So and I don't even remember what the question was, so you're gonna have to, re, restate it if you would.
[00:13:42] Unknown:
Will it Oh, were you talking to Eli?
[00:13:44] Unknown:
No. I'm talking to you. Okay.
[00:13:47] Unknown:
Noah, the question had to do with the meaning of the clause of our US constitution concerning titles of nobility. And, that would be in the first article, section nine clause eight. There are two clauses in our constitution of The United States that concern titles of nobility. One concerns titles of nobility that the general government in Washington DC might issue, and the others concerning titles of nobility that a state might issue. And both of them are forbidden. But then the question comes, what does it really mean title of nobility? And let me say upfront, see if I can hit the nail with my head and answer the question and then explain it the way I understand it for what it's worth. Titles of nobility. Yeah. Yeah.
No. Yes or no. How would I say this? The governments of The United States, state and federal, are constitution bars from granting titles of nobility, period, period. But then the question comes, what is a title of nobility? And the answer is a title of nobility is an hereditary, title of nobility. For instance, after the war with, Britain and England, which included all of Britain, for our separation in 1776 to 1781, Veterans groups formed just like after World War two, the VFW became big. After World War one, the forty and eighters became the big veterans organization. After the war between the northern and the southern tiers of the states, the grand army of the republic became a big powerful and influential veterans organization. Well, after the war with Britain for our separation, those kind of veterans organizations popped up.
And one one was formed, one very prestigious organization of veterans was formed called the Kentucky Colonels. And those can that organization consisted of those veterans mostly from Virginia because Kentucky and my, voice said, Virginia was the largest of the land grants of the crown to England, and it covered, the lower half of and more of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, down in all of Kentucky, Tennessee. It was huge, and it went as far west as land went, and nobody knew how far it went. So it was that we went to war in Virginia individually. On its own, went to war with Britain over that question. And then Kentucky, of course, was part of what the part of Virginia and it was formed into a state.
But, Virginia or Virginia, as they say there, ceded their western lands West of the Alleghenies to the general government in Washington DC to be sold off much of it to pay the debt of the war. And land Connecticut did the same thing with its land grant that went as far west as anybody knew, but nobody knew. They knew it went at least to the Mississippi River. Beyond that, they didn't know what was out there. But, of course, the the, crown of England had had violated their charters. It's called, freedom of contract when they had did away with obligation to contract. The charters were contracts. So that was one of the big things we went to war over. Well, Kentucky was like that, and a lot of the Virginians and the Pennsylvanians, but others that were veterans of that war poured into Kentucky because there was no longer restriction. The crown had restricted any immigration West Of The Alleghenies.
Of course, a lot of people did it anyway at the risk of their lives. It was very dangerous in Kentucky, but they conquered Kentucky relatively quickly as bloody and as dangerous as it was. And then they formed this veterans organization called the Kentucky Colonels. Well, the the organization called the Kentucky Colonels still exist, and it's by appoint, yeah. By appointment, it's no longer a veterans organization. It's a it's a title of honor Mhmm. That the governor can bestow upon somebody, for achievement. For example, Colonel Sanders of Kentucky fried chicken is or was, he's gone now, he was a Kentucky colonel by decree of the governor of Kentucky because of his achievements.
And there have been many others. But those titles, Kentucky colonel, are not hereditary. My father used to belong to VFW. He joined up after the war as did everybody in his little town. The VFW was the biggest organization in town when I was growing up. And by the way, everybody knew they had the coldest beer in town too. But, to belong to that organization was to belong to the powerful, influential little organization in that little town. And, but my father, he finally quit him because he said all they're interested in was drinking beer, which is probably true. But he was thinking that it would, have to do with veterans rights, which it does, but that'd be you know, like every charitable organization, they will quickly devolve. I don't care what it is. The NRA and the National Right to Life and the State Right to Life organizations are this way too. They devolve they first, they're they're sincere, then they devolve into a business, and then they devolve into a racket worth millions and millions and millions of dollars.
That's the way all charitable organizations go if they're given enough time. Well, the VFW kinda got like that, so he quit him. But here's the thing I wanna point out about my father's having belonged to the VFW. I don't I don't get his membership by blood. I do not inherit his membership. I don't inherit the membership of any veterans organization any more than I would in if I was in Kentucky and my father had become a Kentucky colonel by decree of the legislature and the governor, however they did it. That's not something he passes along to me because I'm his son. So it's not a title of nobility.
It is a title, a title of honor, but it's not a title of nobility. So let me read what I have because this there are two clauses. I'll read what I have in my comments, a common lawyer comments, and my book called, declaration of '76 and constitution of The United States, a common lawyer comments clause by clause and blow by blow. And this is, for what it's worth, what I have discovered and understand about these clauses. Sec, article one, section nine, clause eight of our US constitution says this. No title of nobility shall be granted by The United States. That's clear.
The United States, that means the general government in Washington DC has no authority. It only has the authority our constitution of The United States gives it. But the the ratifiers of our constitution went even farther here. They said, not only are we not going to grant the power, if it's not in the constitution, the government doesn't have it. We're not gonna grant the power, but added to that, we're going to expressly forbid the power. Now they don't always do that, but they do it in this case for important reasons. But they say no title of nobility shall be granted by The United States, and no person holding any office or profit of trust under them shall, without the consent of the Congress of the United States, except of any present and moment office or title of any kind, whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
So, it makes you wonder, doesn't it? How the government to South Vietnam, I have friends that have pictures of themselves hanging on the wall, being awarded, military awards for valor in battle from the government of South Vietnam. I've also, seen and known of men that, in World War one, the French government, gave them titles and, special awards for valor in battle. Is this forbidden here? I'd say it's certainly arguable. Yeah. But it says the the offices or the title of nobility, that means hereditary. That's part of what a title of nobility is. By the way, remember, keep in mind, when you read the constitution of The United States, it defines nothing.
It just spits it out there and the words and phrases that folk of that day understood. It does define a couple of things, so I had a caveat that it defines what a dollar is, and it defines treason. As far as I know, those are the only two things that defines, and it leaves it up to our common law tradition to inform every word and every phrase. And if we don't do that, by the way, our constitution of The United States is a disconnected, dry, and dispirited skeleton of words. That's why nobody knows what's in it. It's boring to read. It's a skeleton of words if you don't live in the world of our common law tradition as those men did in that day. Well, title of nobility, that's part of our common law tradition too and what we understand about it. Again, I'll say it's hereditary.
That's what it is. Well, but it says also not only titles of nobility are not to be granted, but also we we are not to accept any other office or profit or trust without the consent of, a moment, office title, or any kind or any kind, whatever it says, I'm quoting, from any king, prince, or foreign state. Here's the a common lawyer comments. Here's his comment. This clause bars the general government in Washington DC from giving anyone a title of nobility. That means inheritable by blood, such as a count or a countess or a duke or a duchess or a baron or a baroness and etcetera, ad infinitum ad nauseam.
Know well. This clause does not bar titles of common respect and honor. The the words missus or mister, ma'am or sir for men, and women, miss or master for boys and girls. I used to get letters from my relatives and older folk. And when I was a boy and this was the habit in my childhood, it would say on the letter addressed to me, master Brent Allen Winters. Because back then, there was still more of a sense, not as much that we shoulda had back then, but we had more of a sense of titles of of respect even for young boys like myself. We had titles. Note well, this clause does not bar, titles of common honor. I've said that.
Or even, I mentioned here, the Kentucky colonel. Such titles of common respect are not inherited by blood descent. Further, national officials may never accept any gift, office payment, or title from a foreign power without getting congress's consent. An attorney on the roles of a federal court holds a office of trust under The United States, for example. And as such, this clause bars him from accepting anything from any foreign power. However, the title squire or esquire is barred to such an attorney attorney only if a foreign power has granted it. You know, traditionally in America, lawyers are called esquire.
That is not a title of a nobility. Why? Well, run it through the definition of common law because it is not inheritable. No lawyer. I can't pass, my my position, my office as a lawyer onto my children, my sons, anybody. I can't bequeath it by will. I can't do that. So it's not a title of nobility. Now this is patriot mythology. I've listened to it for forty, fifty years or more, but the word Esquire is a title of nobility and lawyers, have taken an oath to the Queen of England. That is absolutely unadulterated hogwash.
It's a it's a distracting lie. It has no truth in it, whatever that I know about. There's something somebody can show me where they've got proof of it. Like, outside to listen to some patriot wacko on the Internet who's who's making a lot making a lot of money saying things like that, and they make a lot of money. You say things like I say, no. That's not true. People won't send me money for saying that because that's not exciting. See? Because we're looking we're looking we're in a minute. Is this Joe? Yes. Yeah, Joe. Hang on, bud. Hang on a minute. Let me Joe, would if I will I will let me finish, if I may, this particular clause. I've got a couple of paragraphs to read. Can I do that? And then you can That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. And Joe Joe has weighed in on this question before, and, I wanna hear what he's gonna say again. This clause, however, does not apply to an attorney licensed to practice before the courts of one of the several states of The United States.
Type because, again, it's not hereditary. Titles and nobility carry three dangers. Number one, the privileges they carry are hereditary by blood When from a foreign power, they encourage splitting of loyalty from The United States. That's the other disadvantage. They deemed noble those who are not. They listened to that phrase. Oh, I don't know where I got it. I think I made it up, but titles of nobility deem noble. Those men who are not that's key. Let's think about just quickly. I've got to drop a footnote here. What does nobility mean? What does noble mean? Maybe you remember from chemistry class, there are the noble elements on the periodic table. Well, what are they? Well, they're the ones that are hard to mix up with other with other atoms. You know, an element is broken down as far as it can be broken down and retain the property of that thing by the atom that's in it. There are no there are no molecules in an element. An element just the atom of gold, the atom of silver, and it's just all that atom. Well, the, nobility, noble is a old Latin based word that means purity or pure.
Now you tell me, do you think that the nobility of Europe have pure blood? Are they pure people?
[00:28:53] Unknown:
It's just the opposite. They're a bunch of hemophiliacs.
[00:28:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Their blood is tainted from cross cross pollination to put it lightly. But not to mention, they're wound up there. You give people that kind of power and prestige, and it just exacerbates the taint of evil that's in mankind. It it gets worse. So that's not true. It's a lot. It also affects through inbreeding
[00:29:16] Unknown:
and the dumbing down of the people and their mental abilities because of inbreeding.
[00:29:21] Unknown:
The genetic the genetic, yeah, in in in that's the best way to say it. I like that. That's good. Well but nobody is noble. Nobody. No man has noble blood. No man is noble except by the birth of the spirit of God. Period. That's what God teaches in in his word, and his word is unassailable evidence of the record of what he said. That's what we and that's what our forebears have gone by, and that's what's true. And that's why we're in the position we're in if it's anything if there's anything good or prosperous about it. Well, does not I said that. I'm getting to where I was. Thus, because The US, The United States recognizes, oh, we're getting to foreign power, splitting loyalty. Yes. Yes. Because The United States recognizes the Vatican to be a sovereign state, any title an attorney allowed to practice before the federal courts who accepts from the orders or organizations of the Vatican are a clear violation of this clause.
That's happening a lot. That's a violation of this clause to accept a title or an office or recognition like that from the Vatican because remember during the Reagan administration, I believe that's when it was, our government recognized the Vatican as a sovereign state. Then, of course, here the the pope, his, is an imperial prince by definition. And the bad clear violation of this clause to bar such an attorney's acceptance of any present, the movement, office, or title, I'm quoting, of any kind whatever from any king, prince, or foreign state. The following related amendment, Joe, I've still got you in mind. Hang on, buddy. The following related amendment proposed in 1810 was likely ratified in 1819, but is contested. It forbids split loyalties such as dual citizenship, which now invades which now invades even the president's cabinet and federal bench.
If observed, it would root the disloyal from national and state government. Now here's the here's the amendment. As a practical matter, it has no force of law, but I'll read it to you. If any citizen of The United States shall accept claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, or shall without the consent of Congress accept and retain any present pension, office, or a moodle of any kind whatever from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of The United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office or of trust or profit under them, breather of them. Now, Joe, I have another clause to read that pertains to the states, but, well, I'll save that for later. I'll stop there and give you the floor.
[00:32:19] Unknown:
Well, just a quick comment, and I haven't caught everything you've said. But, you know, I revert back to Blacksmith's Law fifth edition and what they consider, titles of nobility by definition and also Esquire. Go to Black Small fifth edition. I don't have it in front of me. I'm out in the shop. But, somebody could pull that up and read the definition of Esquire.
[00:32:58] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Esquire and I know Esquire Esquire was a title in the old country. I'm aware of that. Is that what you're driving at?
[00:33:06] Unknown:
Well, I do remember it saying it's an English title of nobility, but are they not were they not referencing that when they wrote the amendment?
[00:33:20] Unknown:
No. I don't believe they were because Franklin Franklin Franklin.
[00:33:24] Unknown:
Yeah. I've read, excerpts of his writings to where he basically said, lawyers will be the death of our country.
[00:33:36] Unknown:
Well, that may be true, but that doesn't mean it's a title of nobility. And I can understand I can understand why people are down on lawyers. I don't much like them either, but go ahead, Joe.
[00:33:46] Unknown:
Well, you know, I don't tend to take up a lot of time here. I just it's a point of order, I think, that, the definition from Black's Law fifth edition be read and scrutinized because I take it that they were using it in application to American jurisprudence.
[00:34:12] Unknown:
Well, when we well, when we talk about words such as Esquire, when well, let me back up. Number one, dictionaries such as blacks are very helpful and of the English language, but those are not those are not final about what anything means. Never. What's final in our common law tradition is how the courts use the word. That's final in individual instances, not overall. Black's law dictionary is a legal dictionary, and the and the principle behind it, the purpose behind it is to tell us how they have have observed that the courts have used words. In our common law tradition, we study when I was in law school, we we read cases and contracts and toward we read English, Australian, and Canadian cases. They run our case law book to help us understand how our common law, shakes out in the course given certain facts and, instances.
And, the word Esquire has a history that's rich. And as Trent said Trent said, there's lot of times more in the history of the etymology of a word than there is in the history of a military campaign. Let's look at it. So that's less worthwhile. And that's what he's doing there, I think. Yeah. We're going back and you'd get, the sixth edition, the seventh. They're beautiful. Blacks, I'm talking about. They go back and and tell us going back, okay. Here's how the word started. You know, the word squire originally meant farmer.
That's what it meant. And, had our ag teacher when I was in high school, Joe, I took ag. Did you take ag in high school and all that stuff? Joe may not be with us. Anyway, I had Yeah. I took ag. Yes. I did. Yeah. And I was getting fine. Yeah. It's alright, though. People people multitask when they listen, and we we're glad for that. But, I took AG. I was in the FFA, and the fellow that taught AG class, his name was Donald Boyer. And we all called him Squire Don. Well, why do we call him Squire Don? Esquire, by the way, is the French pronunciation because it's a Latin based word too. But from the bastardized French to the Normans brought to England that were, that controlled, the tongue in England for a few centuries.
Well, we call him Squire Don because he was the one that taught farming. He taught about farming, so we just called him squire. That was the old use of the word. And then squire came to be understood if a man's a farmer, that means he owns land. Well, shucks. If he owns land, he's somebody important, and that was true.
[00:36:46] Unknown:
Matter of fact, that's the rule. The word. In the beginning was the word. In the beginning was the word.
[00:36:53] Unknown:
Well, that's true. Of course. Was
[00:36:55] Unknown:
the word. We we got you, Farris.
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We got you, Farris. We got you Yeah, but Dave, I got you, man. We're we're talking about we're talking about this. Farris. We're talking about Crap. Yeah. Let me let me go on. No. Could you please let Brent finish? Thank you. How are you? Today how are you? The word spire means farmer, so that became attached to a man that had land. And then a man that had land, he became he's very important. And, of course, with that importance, he passed his land along, and that became part of its hereditary. That became hereditary just by custom over time. And then Squire also became attached to knighthood.
Squire. Let me go look all this up, stating word. But all of that just started figuring into the the the the tradition of national defense and squire and the in kind taxes of, knighthood and all that. And it came to mean or it came to be hereditary as everything in England came to me, it seemed. Not always right, but that's what happened. And Squire is one of those, but in America, we're not England. We're a sovereign country.
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Hold on, Brent. Somebody's got a mute open, please. There's a conversation going on. Screwed up. Hang on. Just a second. Just a second. That's alright. I found it.
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Yeah. We're a sovereign we're a sovereign country, and all of that trash. And when I say trash, I mean trash. All that trash of the old world, we said we don't want it anymore. We don't even want all that trash of Norman England. As justice James Wilson of the US Supreme Court's first panel of three said, are we Americans have harked back beyond the year October and established in America Anglo Saxon common law tradition, and that's what we want, and we still have it. That's why we have sheriffs in America that aren't just figureheads. These fellows have real jobs in the counties chosen by the counties. You see in the Norman tradition, for example, after October, sheriff the the king, William the first said, I'm going to appoint the sheriffs of the counties.
Well, the Anglo Saxons didn't do that. Anglo Saxons, I like to say Anglo Danes because the Danes had come by the that time. We had the angels, the Saxons, and the Jutes were the Danes. And that was they were all neighbors and relatives on the continent over there, and they were all pretty much the same people. They had broken up into three tribes, and they formed the nation, welding those three those three tribes together. And they they, chose their each County, each Shire, they called it, chose their own sheriffs. Well, we we do that. See, well, the, the governor of your state does not appoint the sheriffs in your counties.
If he did, they would be his lackeys. They would be his eyes and ears. They'd be his political force.
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Praetorian guard.
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Yeah. All that kind of stuff. So we didn't want that. So the words Esquire does not have the meaning it had in England. When, when, Noah Webster, compiled his dictionary of 1828, he did it after he had, translated the Bible into English. It's called the Webster translation. And he wanted America to have an, language, a tongue that was unique to them that took all the definitions for the concepts of the words out of the, out of the Bible. So he progressively translated the Bible. He got that under his belt. He learned a lot about the words, and then he moved on forward, and he did a dictionary. And that everything is new, a new birth of a new nation of an English speaking people that wanted to reestablish something that had been lost. And by the way, never does anything ever has ever happened that is good among mankind and never will. That mankind does not reach back and grab something that has been lost in the far past and reestablished it. And that's what we did here in America. Yeah. We reached back and reestablished what our ancestors had lost, and they hadn't lost the common law. No. No. It was still good, but it wasn't in the form that it should have been because of the Norman invasion, which had become very administrative by the influence of Rome and the Roman church.
They reached back or retched back, as they say in the Wabash ballet. They retched back and grabbed it and brought it up on the new continent in a new place, and Esquire doesn't mean what it meant in the old country.
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Mhmm. Go, Roger, or somebody Well, I was just gonna say that's conservative to conserve, to reach back and conserve. Yeah. One thing, let me bring you an example. Tomorrow, I'm gonna do a little self promotion here too. Tomorrow, we're gonna do, the, the presentation of John and Glenn's tax material on the origin of the income tax and how it worked and why and all that kind of stuff. And the case that John stumbled on I mean, you know, people don't realize I don't mention it probably enough here. I don't know if you've heard me say this before, Brent. But at one stage, because of all this stuff, John, like many men in a family, had been estranged from his family. And he was with a group there in Denver, including John Nelson and some other folks at a patriot group. And, he, had of one of the guys there had a carpet store.
And, John didn't have any place to to go after he got estranged from his family directly. And so he threw a mattress down in the warehouse in Denver at a carpet company, and for sixteen months lived back there so that he could read court cases ten to twelve hours a day or more with bad eyes that he had to have a magnifying glass as thick as the bottom of a Coke bottle. So the sacrifices that have been made and out of that that time came, he stumbled on a case called Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land and Improvement Company. It was in 1855, I believe. It was a jeopardy assessment case.
And, where the the the the customs guy they were talking tariffs now these days. Right? Well, the tariff collector at the, Port Of New York back in those days had embezzled more than a million dollars out of the taxes of the port. And, then he had gone and bought land. And so they came and seized the land even though it was in some another company's, possessions supposedly. Anyway, in the case, point I'm trying to get to is they said, well, we don't have anything to do with, jeopardy assessments and these kind of takings in our constitution, so therefore, we must revert back to the country we came from. So they reverted back to the English law in this process on this jeopardy assessment case. It's very interesting to me. We'll talk about it on Saturday, and it was the origin of, them understanding totally the tax system after many years finally being able to get the books written by the, gentleman Price and Chitty that and others that wrote on the exchequer in England, which, if you don't know, is the Treasury.
So, anyway, just wanted to add that. So they they would go back to the old English law when they didn't have an answer.
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Oh, we'd we still do it. But we're we're one. We're not rev I mean, in America, as a common law country, we're not revolutionaries. We're not revolutionaries in this, like, the papal revolution, the French revolution, the communist revolution of Russia and China. That's not our tradition. That's the law of the city. Revolution, coup, round and round and round. It evolves and never stops. We throw you out, and we kill you. You kill a bunch of us, we get them. We get back in, back and forth and back, and that's not our tradition. Our tradition is we have a continuity that never changes of true law, and that we are inextricably bound to our to the old country. There's no question about it. And if we aren't and we're on a sea of subjectivity, we've cut ourselves off from our past. Our common law tradition never looks forward until it first looks back.
The case recently, 2,009, Heller, the Heller decision, it's during the second amendment. You go read it. Go on back. They hark back to old England, and they say, okay. Here's what the law of the militia was. Here's how it worked. This is our tradition. And and justification of our right to keep and bear arms. It was, a famous man, in England. He was, he, he's the one that did the study on this on the right to keep and bear arms about the time our country started. And, Granville Sharp, his name was. Granville. Yeah. He was Sharp too, and he's the one that, discovered what he called the Granville Sharp rule number two of the Greek New Testament. He was a consummate student of the of the Bible, and everybody that studies the Greek, the Koine Greek, the New Testaments knows of the Granville Sharp rule, which bolsters and this rule discovered bolsters the deity, the absolute deity of Jesus Christ. When and just to drop a footnote, when Thomas, the apostle, saw Jesus Christ after the resurrection, he was doubting Thomas. That's where the phrase doubting Thomas. He couldn't made him believe it. And Jesus Christ said, okay. He said, thrust your hand into my side where that Roman soldier, stabbed my side with that. Well, I was well, I was nailed to that post. And then, look here and put your hand in these holes in my wrist or his hand. We don't know whether he was nailed by the hand of the wrist because the Greek word used could refer to either, but he said put your hand in these marks, these holes where I was nailed.
And Thomas did that. And when he did it, he fell down on his face, kissed the dirt right at the feet of Jesus Christ, and and said, my lord and my god. And the construction there has a conjunctive in the middle, an, chi in the Greek text, and it has two nouns, lord and god. And grand Bill Sharp discovered, I suppose other people knew it, but nobody had ever said it in the English speaking world, he discovered that that when two nouns joined by Kai, the conjunction translated and, two nouns joined by Kai are of the same case ending joined by Kai.
Those two nouns are descriptive of the same person or thing, Lord and God. Well, that's easy. Just read it in English. You can see it, but, nail it home. It becomes more pronounced in the Greek text, and that happens not only there, but throughout the New Testament in a lot of places referencing the deity of Jesus, the absolute sovereign deity, member of the godhead, creator of all things of Jesus Christ. Well, Grand Bill Sharp also did an extended study on the the right to bear weapons as an Englishman. And he said this, and I think I got the quote right.
He said, the Englishman has has always it no. There was never a time was never a time when the Englishman not only had the the option of being armed, but he had the duty to be expert in arms. And then he goes on to define what that means. Well, that's our common law tradition. Not only do you have the duty to be armed, it's a duty friends, not an option. If you're a male and you're over age 20, that means 21 according to the federal statute 18, but 21 is biblical because that's our common law tradition. The Bible is age 20. Our common law tradition, bumps it up a year because we don't want to air if we don't know when a man was born and have a man be responsible for the functions of government, namely armed defense and jury duty, defense of the law of the land, and defense of the land. We don't want him to, be in that position until we know he's 21 or 20. So we'll say 21 just to be safe. No. We do that at common law when if the Bible says give a man 40 lashes, we give him 39 just in case we miscounted. We wanna on the low side in that case.
That's our common law tradition. Always being very careful never to go beyond, never to violate the biblical standard. Ain't that amazing? I've just blabbing. Is, Brent. All the common law tradition is to not know who we are and why 21 is the age of majority. But all alone, we could go. But the age of majority means you're responsible now before God. And if you mess up, he he could, slap you in line real hard, so be careful. So but, the right to keep in the right is a duty. It's an old Anglo word that means duty. Expert means, in our day, of course, and in the day of Granville Sharp, firearms were the weapon of choice and popularity. And when we get to America, they become the weapon of popularity and necessity in a way that they had never been among hardly any people. Well, no. Firearms came to their own in America because no people ever in the history of mankind ever had a necessity of firearms like we did. We lived with them because we were on the edges of the frontier constantly.
And to keep ourselves from being eaten by mountain cats and bears and wild engines, we, had, firearms. And by the way, white men who were crazy. There are a lot of those too, by the way. Lots of them. We don't wanna forget that. Men are men, and they're evil and dangerous critters. If you haven't figured that out, you will. If you haven't lived long enough. I mean, dangerous we're talking about each other, friends. That's why we propagate the gospel. That's the only thing that will restrain evil, and men. The only thing. There is nothing else. Politics will not get us where we want to go. Here's a beef I have, Roger. A beef I have, but there's nothing I can do about it. It's always been this way. I've been in politics, and it is true that politics is exciting.
It's exciting because there's always crazy things going on, crazy accusations, and we look like we win. There's always the rah rah rah on the crowd and the majority and all that. That's not worth Roger, go ahead. No. So we saw it this week. Go ahead. Yeah. That that doesn't do anything, friends, and that doesn't change anything. It does there's no long lasting effect is my point. We get involved in it. Sometimes we're pleased, of course. We can get I've been in politics. I get it. I've had crowd been around crowds screaming. One time I got up and introduced a fellow that became governor the night before the election in a large airport hangar.
And, he had he asked me to come up on the stage with his family. The rest of the party had ostracized me. He was my friend. By the way, he went to prison too. Ain't it funny? I got to thinking about it. Tom DeLay supported me. What'd they do to him? Ten years, they tried to get him in prison. Tom DeLay. Then it was George Ryan. Oh, a great guy. You know? And he did things that as a state as a speaker of the house and all that. He tried to they they did get him in prison. Oh, yeah. And then they went after the other fellow supported me, Tom DeLay. George George, they went after him. And then, congressman White from the Western District Of Kentucky, the grand jury indicted him. He was friendly to me, was a part of me. And on and on the list goes, and then there was me. You know, they did the same thing to me, grand jury indictment. I was I thought about saying to Trump and all his cronies, well, welcome to the club, boys. You finally figured out or found out found out. Well, politics is really all about. At the bottom line, when they can't get what they want, they will jail you. And if that doesn't work Will. Work, like with Trump, they'll put a bullet through your stall. Look. And you know what happened in Europe this week with, like, Marie Le Pen
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and the guy in Romania and and and the guy in Hungary? They're trying to stop all that. Same thing, throw them in jail, charge them, etcetera, etcetera. Same old same old song. No different thing.
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Now we see why politics is so exciting. Now that's exciting stuff to talk about it and the stories I can tell stories about it and all the other peep but that's not where the power is. The power is the steady glow that never goes out, not the boiling pot of politics or the flaring up of politics that flares up and then then bags out to nothing, and it does. Always does. I mean, whoever heard of me? I was the mine I had more name recognition in 27 counties where I ran than, anybody. 92% name recognition. Spent a million dollars to get it. The only guy that had more name recognition than me was Bill Clinton, president of oh, he was in the White House anyway. He had 98% name recognition. I had 92.
That's exciting. Again, you you stand up in front of crowds. They're cheering, telling you how wonderful you are. But if you lose the election, I've had this experience too. You're standing in a room with paper all over the floor, copy machines everywhere. Right. Just you in an empty, quiet room that was buzzing with people coming in and out and telephone calls and fax machines and just buzzing all the time. And all of a sudden, you're persona non grata. Yep. And people don't like you because you
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lost. That's politics. Go ahead, Roger. No. I'm just laughing at you telling this story. Go ahead. Yeah. So
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I'm laughing because it's true. Because I know it's true. You laugh at things that are funny when they're true, not when they're false. That's right. So politics is not the answer. It's a necessary evil that with us. We get involved when we need to, but just keep in mind that ain't where it's at. Where it's at is right there in your house. Moe, I if I could push this if people would listen just a little I think they do sometimes, though. Those that God has chosen will listen, have opened their cleaned their ears out, clean you know, when I was a boy, Roger, I have to drop another footnote.
I my brother and I, my job was to sit in the seed wagon, the flare bed seed wagon at the end of the field with my other brother, Dave. He was, eighteen months older than me, and we weren't big enough to pick up buckets of seeds, so our job was set in the wagon. They're little tiny planters back in them days. Dad had a w d 45 Alice, and he pulled a little John Deere planter with it. But, boy, he'd go like gangbusters to try to get the planting done with his small equipment. It was all horse drawn stuff that lot most of it, we converted because dad used the before he didn't have an electric welder, and he welded stuff together with a with a with a cutting torch, you know, just a regular gas. And he welded stuff together and adapted all the horse drawn equipment, disk and harrys and stuff to tractors so he could put them on the draw bar to that draw bar that Alice Chalmers.
We just sat in the wagon at the end of the field and had a tractor hooked it, and he'd pull it along as we progressed, and he'd jump out. But, boy, when he comes in the field, every two rounds, I had to fill those boxes. They were just little things on that little John Deere planter. He'd turn the tractor around and reach back, pull that rope, and and it was ground driven. That planter come up, and he'd whip her around, and he'd throw that hand clutch out on that w d 45. And before the thing even stopped rolling, he'd have one hand on the gas tank there right in front of the steering wheel and the other hand on the fender, and he would bound off the tractor to the front and run around. And we were supposed to have all those buckets filled. They were five gallon, metal grease buckets. We collected them to use for that purpose, and we'd just set them in the wagon. We'd take our hands and fill them up, and then he'd grab them and throw them in the planter. And, he'd take off again and he'd throw the buckets back in the flare bed wagon, and then we're supposed to fill them up again.
Well, we didn't have anything to do between rounds, so we just sat there and play around and we'd look for black, little black seeds. You know, if you have yellow seeds or white seeds, every once in a while, you'll find a black one. We'd do that for a while, then that'll get born. And one time, we got the we got, seeing how many soybeans we could stuff into our ears. That's what this kind of stuff boys do. Oh, we didn't think anything. I think we'd pull them out. You know? Well, years later, I I might have been five or six then or maybe a little. I don't remember. Years later, when I was 14, I felt something rattling around in my head.
And I told dad, so I'd shake my head or something would rattle. And he said, well, which size it all? I told him. He took a piece of bailing wire. So he'd get up there on the table. There was a light over the kitchen table. I got up on the table and laid down, and he took a piece of bailing wire and cur curled it up so it was curved on the end and it wouldn't be sharp. And he got a flashlight, and I turned my head sideways, and he got looking down in there. And what had happened was I had grown older, and my ear canal had grown bigger.
And that bean that had been in theirs at least ten years probably was starting to rattle around a little bit. See? Now fortunately, dad said, well, so it's a good thing it didn't, germinate and sprout, then we'd had an awful mess. Will it? And it my ear he said your ears are dirty enough we could plant a garden in there. You know how that goes with noise too. Hey, Brent. You never yeah. Somebody wants to say something. Go ahead. Paul. Sixty seconds
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tell people how they can hear more of you.
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Okay. And this will continue. Okay. We're, yeah, we're talking to the folk in Chi Town, and we appreciate you. This is Brent, Brent Allen Winters, common lawyer dot com. W w w dot common lawyer dot com. Coming to you, coming at you here on, what's the name of this show? Roger Sales, ready to rant. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Roger Sales. You can look him up. He's all over the Internet. I look him up. Sometimes, he have new websites he pops up on. And then all the archives, you can listen to that. But go to commonlawyer.com, common lawyer Com and, take advantage of what you can use there. We're there for you. The website's for fun, not for business. People say, well, you're a lawyer. What are you trying to do? Get business? No. I'm not trying to get business on that website. I'm trying to get the word out Trying to get the word out, the truth. And I have there, of course, the winterized translation of the Bible. You can get that. I have, the comparative law text, excellence of the common law, and we have law school classes at Winter's Inn. Sign up for them. We're teaching the class on Christian nationhood right now. What is it? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Has it ever existed? Should it exist? We're trying to answer those questions. And all of our law school classes are in the can. You can go back and take them, and they'll tell you how to access them there, and you support us when you do that. Appreciate you.
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Brent, you still got that old radio since the timing, man. Come back to this bean in your ear.
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Oh, well, dad got the bean out of my ear. But see what the reason that happened right at the end was because he got to give me orders, telling me what to do, and and I I wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't even act like he said anything. He said, what's the matter with you, boy? You got mud in your ears? Right. Well, I don't know, dad. Well, I don't, I didn't hear you. You didn't hear me. And I, and then I got to tell him something was rattling around in my ear. Just boys, you know, boys do anything, keep getting bored. You know how that is. And the the stories about what our constitution of The United States means, well, that's not always quite as exciting. And then when I say just pay attention to your wife, just to pay attention to your husband.
Yeah. So the covenant of God, the trust settlement of God is your relationship with God. Let's look at the Bible and that's what we do. We try to look at the Bible on Saturdays and Sundays. We do. We're going through the book of Jude on Saturday. No, I get mixed up now. Well, anyway, we're going through the book of Jude on Monday, Saturday, and Sunday in the book and the 10 commandments on the other day, but we're at the 10 commandments, Exodus chapter 20 because we're going through the whole Bible. We started in Genesis, and now we're in Exodus 20, and we're moving through. And we're going through the 10 commandments clause by clause, blow by blow, the big picture as well. And now we're gonna continue going, Lord willing.
And then we talk about the laws of nature, the nay and and of nature's God. Here's the answer to our problems, friends. Here's the answer to our problems. And I am in good company when I say this, and I follow the example of specifically three men, but there are others. But these three have become, front and center for me. The first one was, Stephen Langton, the drafter of Magna Carta. The second one, that was in the December. Then the second one in the 13 hundreds was John Wycliffe, the translator the first man to translate the Bible into English, the entire Bible, and then, sir John Fortescue of the fourteenth century.
All three of these men were from England. All three of these men, promoted our common law tradition. But they said this, all three of them said the same thing and operated on the same idea. There's only one thing that will bring our country back, and their country was about to be lost in all three circumstances. Give me like John Knox said in Scotland, give me Scotland or I die. He's praying to the Lord himself. Give me Scotland or I die. Well, these men have the same attitude. Give me England or I die. So Stephen Langton, drafted Magna Carta.
He was a churchman. The Pope of Rome excommunicated him for having drafted Magna Carta when he heard about it because Magna Carta is another expression in a long train of solid stepping stones throughout the history of our common law tradition. And, common law mitigates head on directly against the Canon civil laws of Rome, the law of the city, the code of Justinian, the, of the Roman empire, which governs every country in the world. That's why the Pope threw him out along with a whole lot of other folk. He was the foremost old testament commentator of his day, Stephen Langton. He's the man that gave us our chapter divisions to our Bible. We still use them today.
A consummate biblicist. And and he said, our common law tradition along that's the laws of nature. Along with the laws of nature's god or bible, that's the only thing that's gonna change our country and give our country back to us. And when you read Magna Carta, and we also have taught the course over fifty, weeks, that course was clause by clause, blow by blow, going through the Magna Carta. That's available on the website as well. Then we get to the 13 hundreds, and that was John Quickliffe, the man that translated the Bible into English. And he taught because the Bible taught that nationalism is what God wants and not tribalism and not imperialism.
Rome is imperialism. Empire. The people throughout the world, traditionally and, their first analysis are tribal. Like those that lived here in America when the Europeans got here. And they were constantly enslaving each other, killing each other, and homosexuality was just part of the course, for them. They didn't know any different. They claimed, of course. I think nature teaches us different. They just did whatever they wanted to do is what I'm trying to say. There was no consistency of law, that's tribalism. But John Wickliffe saw that John Wickliffe saw that nationalism or somebody said something. Wait till I'm back. Yeah. Farris, just hold on, please.
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Nationalism. Brim and take a break.
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God ordains nationalism according to the land parcel he's given to any particular people. That's what the Bible teaches and the relationship with our allodial landlord who is Yahoa himself, God himself. Our relationship with him is that we our legal relationship is we are beneficiaries and he is settler of a common law trust. And that's what our course about Christian nationalism is about. And we're about to get to the end of it and to define after all the things we've said in the course of the last thirteen weeks, I think. Now we're getting to the finality of it and the finale, which is what is our relationship as a Christian nation to our maker? Well, the Bible tells us it's not like it's hidden someplace, but it's forgotten. And what we're teaching there is what those that founded America believed in their heart of hearts. And I'm not trying to promote the idea and then convince other people, but I darn sure am trying to present what they believe because they're the ones that put us on this trajectory we're on. And if we know from which we have came and draw a straight line from there to here, we'll know by drawing a straight line on out, where we're going. And that's what Christian nationalism charting charting a course,
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so they say. It's started. Alright. Let's see. Ferris, what do you got? Now be nice.
[01:06:27] Unknown:
Good day, gentlemen. Thomas Jefferson said never use one two words when one will do. See, Jefferson worshiped the word. That's why he gave you the founding document, which some people refer to as the declaration of independence. The first word of the declaration of independence is what?
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What is I know. You're gonna y'all want word. You go ahead.
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Of the declaration of independence, I would like to ask first, I'd like to ask the, the weekday host, Roger Sales.
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What's your first word of our declaration of advance? Farris, I I I do not know, but I'm you've got my curiosity. Is that important?
[01:07:15] Unknown:
Oh, well, Brent, you know what it is. Let's tell us, or or should I
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anyone else know the first word of the declaration of independence? We want we want we want you to take advantage of the time you have before. We want you to go ahead and talk, and you tell.
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The first word of the declaration of independence, most of the sheep will say it's we. We the people. What a bunch of idiots. Okay? I think I think it's we. I think it's when, isn't it? When when instead of we? You you got to it. You were you got to it. See? It's when in the course of human events. It's a w word. Yeah. I only mentioned that with regard with reverence for Thomas Jefferson named Thomas the name Thomas is a is a is a compelling, given name. And, my grandfather had that name, for example. Now here's the key to what, and and and let me just say, I could listen to you all day and all night. Now the first time I ever heard that said was on a small market radio station in, New Bedford, Massachusetts where it was written Moby Dick about a a bar in New Bedford, Massachusetts. It was the beginning of Moby Dick. And on, fourteen twenty AM in in New Bedford is a talk show called the the, the South Coast Today.
And, on that show, the queen of local talk radio came on, and she talked like Brent Allen Winters is talking. And a guy called up after her, not me. I was with her at the time. And the guy said, I could listen to that woman all day and all night, and it was because of the sound of her voice as much as it was the brilliance of her content. So, I mentioned that in with regards to Jefferson's rule, never use two words when one will do. Now, Brent, you just used two words when one would have done and one would have done much more effectively. And I I think you will engage on this. Nearly no men will engage on this, and, of course, zero females for obvious reasons.
And that is that the the the phrase as well should never be used ever because you have two perfectly good, words. One is to t o o, and the other one is also. And if you have the skill and are are and are not lazy and you place two and also properly in the sentence, you can't go through one as well as at the end of a sentence as you just said that that's available on the website as well. See, as well, nobody understands this. I hope you do. As well has killed our ability to communicate. Because when one uses as well at the end, instead of properly placing two or also earlier in the sentence, then it becomes vague.
Would you grant that That it's uncertain what the as well refers to earlier in the sentence. Was it the color? Was it the time? Was it the Are you Nope. You're asking me a question. I challenge you to engage on that because you have a brain brain, Alan Winters. And you did you smoke much marijuana like the the, the cohost,
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Rogers here? I doubt that he I doubt that he has,
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Farris. He turned me on to marijuana, but did it take some time to see you? I remember.
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Ferris, we hadn't seen you in months, and now you come over here and you command the show, and you you kinda interrupt, put your foot in there, Brent, instead of waiting for him to be in. And now you get off in this, minute nitpicky thing about two and also versus as well, because Brent used it after he gave you this brilliant soliloquy and this fabulous history that virtually nobody knows. And that's the one thing you gotta comment on?
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That's the one thing that he came up with in English.
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I I I don't know what to say sometimes. Okay. Go ahead, Brent, please.
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Well, I suppose that, just to make one comment, I don't know that Tom Jefferson was much of a talker. I've always got the impression he, of course, liked to write. And, no, he didn't give us the declaration of '76. There are a lot of men involved in that. Matter of fact, he's he took I don't wanna say this word stole or plagiarized, but he took a lot of what he said from the Puritan, John Locke. And John Locke was a consummate bible student as well, but that's never taught because that sounds too exclusive and too Christian, but it's true. And, Tom Jefferson took what he said from John Locke. And if you'll notice though, when he writes, he he does use two words often where one will do. There are times to do that. I'm not arguing with this fellas point. Now if you're writing and trying to be succinct, you would should follow. I agree with this, that, who was it?
E b white, E b white, the author of Charlotte's web. E b white, took his his notes from his little notebook of his composition one zero one professor at Cornell University, where he went in the year 1919. I believe he was a freshman there, and he took a notebook that he had to get at the university, bookstore for that first course, and he compiled it into a short little writer's grammar called elements of style. And in that little booklet, which by the way, I've carried with me for many, many years now, and I never stopped referring back to it. He said the number one, the number one rule of writing is to eliminate this is a quote, eliminate all unnecessary words because a switch without leaves, a switch without leaves stripped of its leaves stings more when applied to the back of the legs and a rifle shot penetrates better than a shotgun blast. That was his quote. Well, I I think he's right on that, but there are those times.
Of course, people can be the judge when that's to be done. There are other times when you're talking, especially when you violate that kind of a rule to keep people's attention. For example, and I'm not the first one to observe this. Other people have observed it too. I think Carnegie said this about, Abe Lincoln's presentation, the Gettysburg address. He begins with four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought upon this continent a new nation. Well, the phrase four score and seven years ago is eighty seven years. Why didn't he just say eighty seven years ago, our fathers brought up on this continent, a new nation.
Why didn't he do that? Well, he didn't do that because he figured he worked on it quite a long time, but he decided that right there, he was going to use some flowery speech speech right up front because it would grab people's attention if he said something a little different than what they'd been used to hearing. And so he used four score and seven. That's four words. He could have said 87 and that'd have been a lot easier. So there are times to do that. What I'd like to do now, though, if I may brief Roger is read the next clause of our constitution, section 10 clause one, which has to do with titles of nobility also. And I'm doing this in, respect of Eli who asked the question. Hadn't heard from Eli. I'm glad he's doing okay.
Hadn't heard from him in a while. Yeah. He was through, what was it? Triple? Was it stents or bypass, Paul? Do you remember? Okay. No. I don't. I I do remember that there was Triple
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bypass.
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Yeah. And he's recuperating. I think he's listening now. I think I got a message from him a minute ago on Skype. So we'd say, Eli, we're glad you're better and continue on that path, please.
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And, yeah, and what a name. I like that name. My great granddad was Elisha, and everybody called him Lish. But Eli, which has the same syllables and the same Hebrew words in it. This is section 10 calls one article one. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation. Let's stop right there. Just again, I can't help but notice. This is one of the reasons why the Northern states got upset at the Southern states. They entered into a alliance and a confederation. They said, wait a minute. The constitution of The United States says you can't do that without at least permission from prompt, from Congress, but doesn't even say that. So you can't do that. That's where comes from, by the way, Confederation grant letters of mark and reprisal. That's giving, authority with a piece of paper to private parties to engage in acts of war and enjoy the plunder for themselves.
Coin money, emit bills of credit. What's a coin in money? That means, just, well, it means making coins and stamping coins. No state has authority to do that. Emitting bills of credit. No state government is to issue paper money according to our constitution. Of course, the general government doesn't do that either. They think they get around it by selling the bills. They print to the federal reserve bank for a few cents. But, technically, but that's not really what's happening. It shouldn't be done. They can't make anything. The States can't make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender and debts, a tender and payment of debt debts. If a state passes a law by the legislature and the governor of, Nebraska signs the law, and the law says that if somebody offers you go or, American dollars, you owe them $20 and you, they offer you an American 20 dollars bill and you refuse to take it cause you want gold or silver.
The, constitution says they don't have authority to do that, to pass any kind of law like that because they're, they're saying here, but the States can make gold and silver payment for debts. Legal tender. What does legal tender tender means? Once you tender the money, once you offer it to the other fellow, hold it out and tender it to him and he refuses it, then he can't Sue you for anything else. Yeah. Legal tender means the government says this is, can be used for payments of debt. And, if you're offered it and you don't take it, then you have no legal recourse in the courts. You got to take this for payments of debt. That's what it I believe in the UCC. If you tender payment and it's refused, the debt is considered paid. Is that correct? Yeah. In some states. Yeah. It depends upon their version of the UCC. And I don't know them all. That's why I say Of course. In some states. But, yeah, tender means once you offer it, if the law says once you offer it and the other party refuses it, then the other party doesn't have any standing in court to sue you over it. Okay. Well, but the states do have the power to make gold and silver coin legal tender. In other words, you all offer well, there was a case Southwest. I believe it was Oregon, but I don't remember for sure, but I think it was Oregon. Not not many decades ago in the scheme of things. And, the government, the legislature passed, a law saying payment of, of, a certain tax had to be in gold or silver coin.
And a fellow, one fellow offered payment of that tax with American dollars, and they wouldn't take it. And he took them to court. And the case wound its way all the way up to the Supreme Court to The United States. And the Supreme Court to The United States says, no, they can make gold, silver coin, legal tender they want. But keeping in mind, this is the principle tax is not a debt. It says debt here. Legal tender has to do with debts, but a tax is an obligation by law. But but, but they did uphold the idea that the state had the the right to make that call and say, no, we want gold and silver. And if you don't pay it, we're gonna hold you in, it's a crime. We'll throw you in jail or something. Go ahead, Roger. Brent, I had always heard the legal tenderment. You that's what they wanted you to pay taxes in. And you say it really has to do with debts. Here's another one of these
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really sharpen your thinking kind of, points that need to be differentiated.
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Oh, I'm glad. Yeah. Roger, I'm glad you brought that up. Let me just back up. This is a net more Patriot mythology. There's a difference between debts and taxes. Taxes are obligations. Obligation is a fancy word for duty. Duties arise out of law. That's why some taxes, by the way, are called duties because it's an obligation. Well, like in, like in this new, tariff thing, there's going to be duties on the, on the products that are brought in. It's a duty to pay it. That that's just one way to use the word. But the bottom line is a debt arises out of your contract with somebody. You cut a deal. You have a quid pro quo. You give me this, I'll give you that. Okay? There's a an obligation, not an obligation.
Let's just call it a debt. To put it for some of you that would like to think these things through, all all debts are obligations, but not all obligations are debts. For example, taxes are not debts. Taxes do not arise because of some contract. This and that's the Patriot mythology that arises. Well, I don't have a contract with the government. I don't have this. I don't have that. I don't have that. No. You live on the land that has the territorial jurisdiction of the state or whatever you, there are certain duties you owe just being there. And you, those obligations, for example, every male, according to our common law tradition, 21 years and older, according to the federal statute for federal purposes, 18 years and older, you're a militiamen whether you understand it or not or whether you know it or not. You didn't make any contract with your militiamen because your father birthed you. Your mother birthed you. Your father fathered you. He sired you.
And w and because God allowed you to live long enough to reach age 20 or 21, you're a militiamen, dude, whether you like it or not. And it had nothing to do with any obligation or any any debt that you contracted with anybody. And by the way, your duty to PR to defend the land by force of arms from invasion and to defend the law of the land as a member of the jury, man, your duty, that's a, that's a duty that arises out of what contract? No law. It's just the way it is because you live on the land. The Lord your God has given you. Well, lawful tax is a note. I say lawful, not anybody. Anything that somebody says is a tax, but lawful taxes are the same way. Whatever that is. If they're lawful, you have a duty that arises out of law, not out of contract, but I've beaten that up enough. Let me keep reading here.
And yeah, legal tender, Roger, according right here, it says for debts, it doesn't say obligations of, of tax and a debt. Show me a contract. We say this lawyers have said this, it's a popular saying, frankly, it used to be, show me a contract and I'll show you a debt. Show me a debt. And I will show you a contract because contract is debt. That's what it is there. It, it, it, it doesn't encompass fundamentally anything else. There are two debts with every contract. There's an obligation on or, there's a debt on both sides that is an obligation, but I'm trying to use the words specifically to make the distinction. All debts are obligations, something owed, but not all obligations are debts. And I'm really struck with something good in our courts. Our courts have been pretty good in America and distinguishing those two words, debt and obligation.
Let me keep reading here though. Emit bills of credit make anything but gold and silver talking about The States Of The United States making anything but gold and silver coin, a tender and payment of debts. In other words, the States, again, to reiterate and say it a third or fourth time, it doesn't hurt to say it a few times. The States Of The United States are sovereign and as such, they have power to say, this is legal tender for debt. In other words, legal tender means once it's held out to pay a contract, you go to a store, you buy a bottle of pop, you walk up to the gas station to the cash register, you hold out, something that the government says is legal tender, like a gold coin or a silver coin.
And if the government has passed laws and your state saying that's legal tender and they refuse it and say, I ain't taken that. Listen, I've had people, I've said, listen, I'll give you a silver coin for that, for something I owed. And they'd say, I don't want to say, what am I going to do with a silver coin? Most people don't even know what to do with a silver coin. They'd rather have a candy bar. People are proven. Well, yes. Yeah. Mark Dice proved that out in San Diego on the beach asking people. Here, I've got a candy bar here, and I've got this silver coin.
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No. It's a silver bar. Okay. Silver bar. And he offered them one or the other, and most everybody said, well, I'll take the candy bar. Not only that, there was a shopping center right across the street with a pawnshop in it. And he said, you can take this bar over there and ask them what it is, and they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't walk across the street to verify it.
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That's how far away a field we are from reality. And by the way, gold and silver, according to God, according to the Bible, according to the testimony of God, the affidavit of God, gold and silver are money. That's God or God's ordained money. A little, another little tidbit that I think is important every time, not sometimes every time you see the word money and the old Testament, the King James version, for example, and the other versions, most, all of them, every time you see the word money, it translate it's rendered. It doesn't translate. It's a it's a false translation. It renders the Hebrew word.
Kisef. Kisef means silver, period. Doesn't mean anything else. Silver. Sometimes the Bible will say current money. Well, that's silver. It was silver in that day, by the way, it's still silver today and it always will be silver because the law of God has had so, and we still recognize that. Do Do you think it's any accident, for example, that gold and silver, gold is going through the roof right now. Why? Because no matter what else happens in the world, no matter what men say, no matter what governments say and legislatures say gold and silver or gold and silver, and it ain't going to change. And you know, the law, one good definition of law is the way things are and they ain't going to change.
And that's still true. Let me read the rest of this though. Golden silver. That's true. Make anything but gold and silver coin, a tender in payment of debts pass any bill of attainder, bill of attainder to stop on that one. I think maybe. Yeah. Eli did mention this too. Bill of attainder. What's a bill of attainder? A bill of attainder is a law. There was a proposed law that some legislature passes that makes it a, makes a crime out of something that's already happened. Maybe that's the easiest way to say it makes a crime out of something that's already happened. Well, what's wrong with that? Let's say somebody.
Well, that's like an ex post facto law. Yeah. It's that kind of stuff. But attainder ex post facto is more to the point. And the, both of them are here. Attainder has to do with a person being born, but person being born something that's already happened. So my father was born or my father fathered me and then he commits a crime. Well, the, if there's a law then that says I'm guilty of the crime or I can't, I can't own property for the rest of my life because my father committed a crime that's called a bill of attainder. Why do they call it a bill of attainder? Because it has a tainted, they would have said that that my father's wrongdoing tainted my blood bill of attainder.
So really it's like an ex post facto law and that's why they're listed together because it makes a crime of something that's already happened. And it says, well, the Bible said, and the reason they say no bills have attained her. The Bible says this, that the sins of the fathers, the guilt of sons shall not be gotten from the sins of the fathers. That's another way to put it. I am not guilty of the wrongdoings of my father. My grandfather will in Old England. They got to that foolish point of Anglo Saxon England. One that way, but Norman England was that way. You were stripped of any if you had a title of nobility and your your father had a title of nobility that was you were going to inherit. Remember, all titles of nobility are blood titles. You inherit them.
But if your father, was, convicted of treason, high treason, for example, against the crown, not low treason or petty treason as we call it common law, but high treason, then he was stripped of everything and you get nothing, no title, no land, no nothing. And your children don't either. In other words, it's, it's like the cast system. It's a little bit like that in India just destroys society. And we said, no, in America we're, we're harking back to the common laws that as a stood under the Danes and the Anglo Saxons. We're not going to do that anymore. That's, that's wrong. It is unbiblical. Remember the people that founded America, I mean, you could say 98% easily were hardcore war grade Calvinist by official doctrine. Oh, not to say everybody was, but their official doctrine was an everybody over 98%, over 98% by the best figures we can find. I can find everybody identified with some Protestant church, and there are only about three brands at that time.
And they were baptized as such. All the members of Congress were that way. If you weren't that way, you'd never get elected to office. Tom Jefferson, you know, he he agreed with a lot of Christianity. People say he was a deist. He wasn't nobody in America that we know of was a deist. A deist is somebody who says that God is not active in the affairs of men, number one, and God has not communicated to us in writing. Well, Tom Jefferson believed God had communicated to us in writing. He cut a lot of it out, said he didn't believe that, but he believed the Bible was true except the stuff he cut out, which was miracles. He didn't believe that, but he still wasn't a deist. George Washington wasn't an deist on that count. Nobody was, the word of God was sacrosyct in everybody's mind and nobody just from social pressure alone at that time would say anything against the Bible again or against Jesus Christ.
I remember where I lived and where I grew up, it was up by the way. You just didn't do that. Even if you never darken the door of a church, you didn't commit blasphemy against God. That way people wouldn't put up with it. Well, our country started that way. So on that trajectory, as I've often said, is that it was a Dutch and German reform groups in the middle colonies mostly, not all, but some of them were in Georgia, by the way, and the Dutch and German reform groups. But New York was the center of that and Pennsylvania. And then the Anglican, the English Anglican, and Puritans, and congregationalist, and then also the Scotch Irish Presbyterians. Those made up by far and away 98% of the European population of America when our country started.
And they were all substantially the same as far as their doctrine and understanding of of reality and and, religion and government, which always go together, was. And they all were I say this, apology. It's just a matter of historic truth. They were all Calvinist. I use that word not because I like the word Calvinist, but, I don't know how else to say it. Now there is a word that that says the same thing that's reformed the reformed Christian tradition that most people don't Arctic elated from Martin Luther. Martin Luther was the first Calvinist, really. The Lutheran church never followed his doctrines, but they just, after he passed away, they chucked them. And the Melanchthon, his assistant took over, and Lutheran churches in America are not. They're just the opposite.
And but, those that started the country, the Puritans, the English Puritans and Anglicans, the congregationalist, the Scotch Irish Presbyterians, They're about and the Dutch and German reformed groups, and they were about a million in America. A million when our country started of each of those three ethnic and Christian groups. And they welded together in America. And I was just thinking this morning as I was talking to my son. Oh, I want our for me as an example, just to give a personal testimony, what what kinda what kinda ethnic groups are in my background? Well, just primarily three. You know, there's Dutch and then there's there's Scotch Irish and then there's English.
And a vast majority of Americans are like that still. They end up calling them Anglo Saxons, but they aren't. They're a mixture of those three. Those three and that has made a unique unique, unique, yeah. Not another place in the world where those three mesh together the way they did in America. Not all that we have inherited in America. It is our common law tradition, which is a Christian tradition. That's what makes us American. And what wherever your ancestors come from, latch onto it and know that's the way God made you, and you should not reject it. You should not reject who you are, my friend. God made you that way by his sovereign power, and you had no sin
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by the way.
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So whatever your blood is, let's go into it. Yeah. And say, no. This is who I am. And the
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caboose of that, the caboose of that trilogy, English just joined us. And I wanted to, not let any time pass without saying welcome, Paul. We're always tickled to death to have you. And I wanted to recognize you were with us and let Brent know that also.
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Cool. Hi. Welcome, man. I mean, welcome welcoming thank you for welcoming me. Hi. Well well well Yeah. Yeah. Well So Yeah.
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Always a pleasure. Go ahead, Brent.
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Well, I just wanna say quick. I I wanna get this in. Paul sounds chipper. Sound like he's full of gumption, and I'm happy about that. And we're glad to have him. And, I'm trying to think of a provocative question right now to ask him so people could get some relief from me talking.
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I'm enjoying it. It took me so long to join. I've just been sat here being entertained for the last hour or so. It's been great. Oh, you've been listening? Oh. Okay. Yeah. We that, of course. Well, when we're hoping, of course, that you're able
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to somehow, I don't know what can be done, but we want to have an influence, all of us, if we think we're right and we think we're right headed. We don't think we're right about everything, of course. No. We're mortals. But we do think we're on the right road and heading the right direction. We I believe it. And I want, the point of view we're espousing here to get out in the old country and, I suppose even broadcast onto the continent of Europe where our mother tongue, as it's called English, is now, it covers the entire globe. That's the first time in the history of our Adam's race that that has ever happened. And we live in that world now where our mother tongue is the tongue that's understood which they use their own words to describe the international language, which but hasn't been that long ago, it didn't cover the world the way English now does. English
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covers the world. Very interesting, Brent. You know how they accomplished that?
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How's that?
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They made all the air traffic controllers requirement to speak English. Everything flowed downhill from there. Oh, you'd, yeah, you'd mentioned that. You know, that's kind of analogous
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to time zones in America. We didn't have any time zones in America till travel out by analogy. Not airplanes, but railroads made it possible, and then we got connected in six we were six days from the East Coast to the West Coast by train going through Utah, going down across or Nevada is what is now Reno in that way. But once they did that, they said, wait a minute. We gotta have a time schedule here. What are we gonna do? And for the first time, the railroads gave us what we call the time zone Ozzie Durham. America.
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Okay. Makes perfect sense. East to west.
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Government didn't do that, but it had to be done. Otherwise, they they could,
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the train abstract. If there's no percent points, it's abstract.
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Yeah. Yeah. So they did. It's much to the chagrin of me because I lived on the time zone that where if I went to Indianapolis to get on an airplane, I lived on it just the other side of the time zone. I can't really tell you how many times I've been hightailing. They're on the road to entry. And oh, yeah. And then all of a sudden, look. Wait a minute. We're in a different time zone. And I Yeah. Be late an hour. You know? Yep.
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But let me tell you the rest. With this time change down here because both countries I've lived in don't change times. Yet because of my association with you guys in the radio program, I have to. And, yes, caused me some fits occasionally.
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Well, I thought that if I if I, waited enough time and talked a little bit, I'd think of a provocative question for Paul. So here's what I I didn't because I'm talking too much and I hope
[01:38:11] Unknown:
It doesn't have to be provocative, Brent. It's fine. Just, you know, ask me the ask me the baseball scores or something. It could be something really mundane. Not that I know them. Yeah.
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Get your tongue numbered up. You might just start rolling. Well, here here's what I wanna know. Yeah. Just get you start talking. Tell us, how is, the how are those in England? Are they liking Trump less or more? We're watching here in America. Are they liking Trump less or more as his plans unfold? Or are are they taking the or the conservative folk there taking, taking what Trump is doing in the same way we are? We're we're starting to evaluate things more and seeing how they're playing out. For example, somebody said, well, we're gonna have to pay the tariffs on those cars that, they're shipping in here. That's gonna hurt for a while. Things like that. Can you give us an update what's happening there?
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I I mean, I haven't seen so much about that. I caught a little clip, from some radio station yesterday where they had some guy on talking about, the tariffs both ways. And, there's been sort of, like, a slightly hysterical reaction in some quarters, but everybody else has said, well, look. Tariffs are just part and parcel of history. There's not really a big deal. I mean, I think for it's you get into so many fine details with it. We don't really have a car industry anymore. We used to have one. But we don't really have one of any any much substance. And most of the car manufacturers over here are now owned by foreign interests, which is all part of the design, I suppose, you know, to remove any sense of a manufacturing base from here. Yeah. So so Rolls Royce is owned, I think, by BMW now.
And, they make jolly good cars if you've got enough money to buy one you want, something like that. In fact, the factory is only about 40 miles from where I'm sat down here. Really? The guy the the guy that lives next door to me used to work there as a seat fitter. So he got paid a lot for cutting all those leather seats and all this kind of stuff. So there's a lot of you know, they've they've retained a lot of British craftsmanship ship if if such a thing exists, and it does actually. I shouldn't be too cynical. It does, but most of them are owned by these, by foreign entities. I think the main concern over here I mean, I don't sense a big sort of interest in Trump.
Maybe that's just a reflection of me, as a major thing. It's the main concern over here remains, the dysfunctionalism of a government that's actually well, I've run out of adjectives it's reviled. I mean, without a doubt, it's the worst government anybody can ever remember ever Yep. In a league of its own for stupidity, mediocre people saying goofy stupid things who have who self evidently haven't got a clue, and are totally rudderless. I mean and I view them all, including Trump, you'll have to forgive me, as messenger boys. The lot of them. The whole lot. They're carrying out you know, my stance is they're carrying out the orders of the city, of the financial the money power, and everything is unfolding according to plan. I think the, their plan, of course. I think the digital currency thing is is the greatest menace that we're all we're likely to face. I've got nothing against digital currencies, but I've got a lot against it when you and I don't own that digital currency system.
Yeah. So I think they're gonna wreak havoc on us with that if they can get away with it. And I I think, I weren't you mentioning earlier about the increase in the price of gold and silver? I mean, there is a movement into this because, although from a sort of technical management point of view, gold and silver are challenging, let's put it that way, In terms of individual locations surviving, it's probably as good a strategy as any if if that's what you think you need to do. It's Well,
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the rich aren't going out and buying a whole bunch of Bitcoin, but they're buying every bit of gold, especially in silver, they can get their hands on. I checked a minute ago when that subject came up. They've knocked it down today. It was over 3,100 here earlier in the week, and they've knocked it down to 3,023 here on Friday because they don't want gold sitting up there high as people go into the weekend. Because as Robbie Noel did you ever listen to Robbie Noel? Paul, are you familiar with him? He was such a No. I'm I'm not familiar with him. Oh, he was a great guy on RBN and has that rich South African at colonial accent, and he'd been a stockbroker on Wall Street for a while, and he was selling gold and silver doing political commentary. And, Robbie's, comment was gold climbs a wall of worry.
And, boy, there's a lot of worry out there right now, including now I do have a provocative question for you, Paul, because I've had a few minutes to think about it. Have you already got your order in so you can get your ninja sword before they're outlawed this summer?
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No. Because I don't need to put an order in because I've already got one. Okay. Okay. You were out there now. Courtesy of my I've got one courtesy of my father who, at the end of World War two, he was in the British Navy, in the Royal Navy. Right. And, they the the last job he did, they were taking Japanese prisoners of wars, prisoners of war back to Japan on this destroyer that he was on. And, the, commanding officer of the Japanese infantrymen, I'm assuming, that were there, ordered all his men to hand over their swords to a corresponding, person, of, the same rank. So, you know, he ended up and yeah. So they all got one. And, my dad brought it back, and it's my sons keep pestering me for it, but I don't want them sort of practicing in the garden or anything.
So, it's it's in a safe place for now, so I'm being a bit wet, aren't I? But, yeah. So I've got I've got one from 1944. Could do with the I actually spoke to a, a what would you call somebody who repairs swords? It's not a blacksmith, is it? A swordsmith, maybe? I don't know. Could be. Good as any. I spoke to a guy down in Cornwall who does that sort of thing, and he he suggested it probably wasn't worth doing from a financial point of view because I thought there's a few notches. There's a few sort of bits of metal missing in the sharp edge of the blade and stuff, and it could do with a bit of TLC. You know? But, no. I I,
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I'm not too worried about it. Well, that that's good. You can leave it in there because when stormers, men, come and you get it out to use it, that little chip in the in the edge there rips. It's it's just cutting it rips. So like a serrated knife. So I think you're maybe on the better side there.
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Well, it could be. I don't know. I'm I'm awaiting for them to ban crossbows, actually, is what we think, what I've thought they might be looking to do. Yeah. Crossbows, a very lethal piece of wood. They are. I mean, absolutely devastating. Yes. And I can understand why the pope was a bit cross about them and sought to outlaw them, but there's just nothing much you can do about them. They're just, you know, very, very potent weapons. So because there was a crossbow murder here last year. A horrific thing where someone trade, armor armor,
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bullet pad proof stuff. Don't they?
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They do. Yeah. They do. I think there's there's one, you can see I've I've spent a little time looking at it. I think there's one. It's about $3,000, this one. Mhmm. Amazing looking piece of kit kit, you know, using carbon fiber and all this other modern stuff. It's got, like, a barrel so you can load multiple they don't call them arrows, do they? What? They're bolts. That's what they're called. You have a a bolt. And, it's got a car you can have eight or 12 bolt cartridge that's like on an autoloader. And the bolt leaves the bow at 550 feet per second Yeah. Which is pretty quick.
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I had one. I had one in The States. I had a crossbow and a longbow. And Yeah. This was the crossbow that didn't have all those pulleys and stuff. It was just strictly the the bow there and the poundage and stuff. And, of course, I had to leave it in The States, and I hope somebody's taking care of it now because I have no idea who got it.
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Yeah. Well, I hope it doesn't come to any of this kind of stuff because it seems to me that the actual the real battle is in the hearts and minds of people to get thinking straight. Yep. And, if we can if we are able to do that,
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which we I think we must do it. We have to find a way of doing it. Some of them are too Paul, I'm sorry. Some of them are too far gone. Some of these people are there's no sense in even wasting any effort on them.
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No. You're absolutely right. I think the idea is to waste effort on the people that you hope you're not wasting your effort on. It's different. It's a bit like kissing frogs to start off with. You just have to sort of get some sense of it. You know? But, Boy, do I Yeah. I mean, we were mentioning yesterday, Roger. You know, I was just thinking I thought, well, what is it you know, to use the modern parlance, what is it that we're we're against? We're against globalism, communism Mhmm. Nay, cabalistic Judaism. You know, we we all know this kind of stuff. Right? Yeah. But let's just use global I use globalism over here because everybody that's intelligent knows what I'm talking about, and then we don't have to use the words that cause them to come and knock on your door. But, I keep thinking about localism, really.
I'm just thinking all the time about localism and that maybe localism is the antidote that we need to re employ It is. To reboot to reboot globalism. You know? So it's not neutral. It's also decentralization.
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It's this, dialectic opposite equivocation thing. And, yeah, it's decentralization that that ruins them because they lose all their power and control. Mhmm. And this goes with the old statement, by the way, came up on the show this week. All politics is local.
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It it is. It needs to be reenergized in in that way. I keep, I think I mentioned there's a there's a church here. I don't know if I mentioned when I was on last time. There's a church here nearby. And, I keep walking through the churchyard. It's, whatever you would imagine about a really pretty English churchyard, that's what it is. It's one of those. It's amazing. I just got all these trees, and the sun shines through. You've got these gravestones from, like, '17 so now 1817, and things like this. So it's been around quite a while. And I'm I'm the the facilities that are there that are kind of that could be employed much more fully, they've they've got a parish hall. They've got scout huts for all sorts of things. And there's thousands of these all over England, and they're not they need to be reignited, if you see what I'm saying. They've gotta be reignited and to try and find a way to do that, to get people to participate in the outcome of their own life if they would like to.
It's a big ask. I know. You're you're right about a lot of people being gone, but a lot aren't. There's there's less arms than at any other point. Let's put it that way. We're still outnumbered, but not outnumbered to the degree that we were, say, five or ten years ago. That's what I think. Well, it could be. I know they're getting apoplectic
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on both sides of the pond. Mhmm.
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Well, one of the things I was talking about last night, I've just been, I've got a book called The Crisis of Civilization by Hilaire Belloc. I may have mentioned Oh, yeah. He was a great Catholic writer. Yeah. He was. And it is about the collapse of the Catholic church. And it's really I what I do is I park my prejudices outside of the book before I jump into it. I try to do this because otherwise, you just end up mustering and going, I don't agree with this or I don't agree with that. But it's it's actually really just about the organization of Europe, and his take on it is the is, again, really valuable, I think. I mean, he he talks about, the rising of the church in Europe before Constantine, which is, what, March, something like that. And he refers to the all these little sort of churches all over the place as clubs, which I think is a really useful word. Everybody knows what a club is. And you've got all these little clubs of people springing up all over the place, particularly centered in Eastern France and on the borders with sort of Switzerland and places like that. It's very sort of like the epicenter of this thing.
And how it rose, how it had to deal with Muhammadism, which came along in, what, June and not this onslaught. And maybe I mentioned it when I was on before. I've just been plowing into this stuff because it's a bit that it's a sort of part of history I've been blindsided about. He talks about the Reformation, although I I haven't read that bit yet. I'm just over halfway through. I'm just about to jump into that this weekend. And, the the Reformation really was a devastation. This I'm not saying it in defense of Catholicism, because one of the things that he talks about is how the seeds of the demise of the Catholic church had been building up for, like, a hundred and fifty years from the mid thirteen hundreds, late '13 hundreds, before, you know, Luther and what happened with Henry the eighth and all this kind of stuff really kicked off. So it already kind of it's about this disintegration of human power systems. They all tend to disintegrate.
And, the church had basically sort of become corrupted. And yet and yet this you just if you remove all that, you go, well, these are our people seven hundred years ago. And what Belloc suggests is that in the late twelve hundreds, which is what when's Magna Carta? 12/15. But going towards, like, December, we got Edward the first over here, Longshanks. He's the guy that ejected all the Jews from England and all this. He said this was the high point of unity across Europe in terms of Christendom. It's a word that I like. I like Christendom. I think it takes a lot of charge out of things. And I'm just of a view at the moment. You can ask me in a month, I might be saying something different. But at the moment, right now, as this mood is upon me this week, it's the restoration of Christendom that's required, I think.
I'm not talking about attending churches, although I'm not again there. But not the ones that we've got at the moment. They're they're they're church in name only. They're a joke. You know, it's just the most appalling situation. And yet The reason why Bello is good is it's yeah. Our situation now parallels that. It's exactly the same. You can just see it. It's no different.
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Yeah. You got to get Scofield influence out of the churches. Mhmm. The dispensation heavier with you than it is here. You do. Oh, well, yeah. You're kidding me, man. I mean, it's just sickening what we're seeing. Honestly, Trump bending over and letting these jackals and hyenas do because that's exactly what they are.
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Yeah. Well, I'm of the view that he's not his own man, but, you know, I could be wrong. I'm I'm glad to be wrong, but I'm I'm of that view, I'm afraid, at the moment. You know? Yep. And the same with Farage over here, which everybody likes. He's just a complete baller. He's a joke. You know, the guy's a joke. He sure is a good speaker though. He's a good speaker. Oh, yeah. He's charming. He smokes a nice cigar. You could just say, I wouldn't mind sitting down with you and drinking a brandy in front of a nice roaring fire. We could just talk all night long. Yeah. Cool. But when push comes to shove, right, he's, he ain't his own man. He just isn't. And they he just kick I don't know if you follow it over here. Not that I follow it much, but there's a chap in his party, in the reform party called Rupert Lowe, who actually is one of the few people that talks like a grown up. Right. Seriously.
No. And he kicked him out of the party because he was becoming so popular. He feared that he was gonna overthrown. Well, he needs to overthrown because he's no good at leading the party. He's good at getting attention, but he's he's too much of a lone,
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you know, a lone operator. I heard somebody talking about that guy recently and the situation with him and Farage. Yep. Who I just I'm sorry, Paul. I know he's probably a scoundrel, but I can't help but like you. Now,
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That's what but isn't that the definition of a
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scoundrel? Probably. But but here is the the the big question is, can anybody get control without this parasitic force being attached to it from one of their factions? I don't I don't know that it's possible.
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Well, there has to be. I know this is sort of sounds it's a cliche, but I don't know how to avoid it. There has to be, and you may find a better way of phrasing this. There has to be a spiritual regeneration of the English and of the Scots and of the French and of the Germans and of all these nations. They've got to completely divest themselves. It's gonna be tricky. I I accept this. Of giving one second of attention to these people. They've got to stop that. They've got to, and put their attention into their local communities and and find a way to restore strength. Why don't you get to be something like that. Decentralization.
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Brent, why don't you weigh in? You've been mighty quiet. I'm concerned.
[01:55:04] Unknown:
Well, no. Here's what happened. I'm glad I'm glad that, he got his tongue limbered up a little. The thing that I did have him Well, I'm glad you're glad, Brent. Oh, yeah. Of course. But I thought that maybe you would I get to, oh, here's what it was. The European Union. I don't understand what's going on. I remember that you folk over there had a vote, and you voted to get out of the European Union. It was clear. Of course, Viraj was involved as the big shaker and mover then. And then it just seemed like everything went, quiet, and you're still not out of the European Union. And then I hear people in the news talking about whether they're they got the plan in motion to get out of the European movement, but it's gonna take time. What's the status with all that?
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Well, they only left half heartedly because they didn't think that we would actually vote to leave. So, inside where wherever these halls of power are that we refer to, but wherever they are, the those people are operating like they've always operated, that we're in charge of the country, and what the peasants want is of no consequence whatsoever, and they're very irritating by choosing this path. So what we will do is we'll we'll use soft kill. That's my take on it. So they're just gonna wear everybody out and just bore of it. I mean, Starmer, this strange sort of agglomeration of molecules, this odd thing that's useless. I mean, literally, absolutely useless, but that's exactly what the reason why he's in. So they all take their my simple take on it to avoid me wasting thousands of hours trying to go through all the minutiae I have is they all take their orders from the money power, and the money power wants centralized control. So it doesn't want us doing this. And, of course, the situation with England is that the migrant situation is warfare by any other term.
None of these migrants are getting under here under their own steam. They never have. They are being brought here under the guise of humanitarian kindness on our part, which, of course, suckers over here. They fall for it, particularly the women. I've got it's just I'm afraid it's the case. Oh, yeah. We've got to help everybody. It's our obligation to do it, you know? Okay. So yeah. So you keep doing that. And then what happens in eighty years time when we're I mean, they're saying by 02/1950 here, we'll be a minority in our own country at this rate. And that's the plan. That's the intention. Yeah. Absolutely. Happen.
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You know? Absolutely. His this storm where I'm he's a rascal. I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen anybody as bad as him in open any politics, any country
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in the world, overall my lifetime is as bad as this guy, especially in Well, he makes Biden look smart, doesn't he? I mean, that's think about what I just said. That's just horrific what I just good.
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And the stuff he does is just unbelievable. The things that are happening that I hear about with the the stabbings and the way they turn everything upside down like Biden and his bunch did in our country. It's, it's you know what? It basically reminds me, clockwork orange is what always comes to mind.
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Well, it just reminds me of the Bolshevik Revolution a hundred years ago. It's exactly the same. The the the you're just anybody that's familiar with that, it's the criminalizing of words, which therefore shuts down thought, which maybe which therefore stops you identifying who's causing you harm because you can't name them in public because that's hate speech, blah blah. So it's the shutting down of the mind so that people can't even communicate the ideas necessary to begin to mentally and then spiritually defend themselves. That's what they do. That's my take on it, and that's what's going on here, which is why participating in their communications arena is completely pointless. There's no point to it. No.
We've got to get people to that point where they dismiss them. In other words, the the man that runs the the the local coffee shop should feel superior. We've got to get him to feel superior to the political class because he is. He only has to do a few honest things a day, and he's already way streets ahead of where they're at. One of the interesting points as well that, Belloc mentioned with this sort of internal collapse of the structure of Catholicism or the structure of the, of Christendom through the church was that they'd had rumblings of it falling for they knew. They're like these warnings just like we've been talking about them for donkey's years. This is the best show before us. This is the best show ever. There's never been a radio ranch on on Friday as good as this. It ought to be, starred in the archives.
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K. Thank you, Farris. Well, we'd like to try and make all of our shows as good as this one. We love it when Paul is able to drop by and converse with us and expand our knowledge on where he lives and how much influence it has on us and has for one heck of a long time. So, anyway, it's the end of the program. We will no doubt continue a bit I don't know if the music just dropped out from under me. And, but I wanted to promote again tomorrow. We're gonna go back. Paul, you may be interested in this. I'm gonna give, John and Glenn's tax information, that presentation tomorrow as is it's that time of year. And, I don't know if you got time. What time of year? What time of year is it? Tax year. April 15. The real April 15. I haven't filed a tax return for thirty years. I just don't play. Well, you may be interested in the process. This is John. I'm gonna tell you more about it than anybody in the world on our side. And we give their information to Mars. Quite interesting. You know when it started? Do you have any idea when the tax system were all under started?
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What? In your neck of the woods? No. I don't. No. In yours. I think about 1817.
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Twelve '80 '5.
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Twelve '80 '5. Well, yeah. They've had things like that. I mean, I was when you asked me that well, that's yeah. Yeah. I yeah. You're right. It's quite interesting. Anyway, we'll go over the whole history of it and how it works and some legal lessons in there and stuff tomorrow if you care to join us. If not, you can catch a Well, you know, I've got a little more time now. I'm having a weird time of it since since the events of the middle of this, month. And, it's very yeah. The days are very, very different for me. Very different for me. I would know. I would think in a Do I have more time? What am I gonna do with it? Spend some Saturday I'll spend Saturday afternoon with you maybe. I will I will bet that you'll find something to do with it. You think? Well, I'm pretty sure knowing you. Yeah. I'm very We're off the air on ours. It's a just a open
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kind of conversation. We're still on Paul's, recording device, but does we've been running our mouths for two hours. Do any of y'all have anything to ask or add? Usually, when you say that, it's like, you know, when the mother bird flies back with a worm to the nest of chicks, and I just Oh, sure. Cheep cheep cheep cheep cheep. That that a lot of times, that's what it's like here. There's a little little one right there. Hey, Larry. What you got?
[02:02:00] Unknown:
Hey. Yeah. This is for both, Brett and and, Paul from England. So Brent started out the show talking about titles of nobility. And so it's my understanding that if a if a nation practices using titles of nobility, that doesn't necessarily take away from the fact that that country is a common law country. And the reason I say that is because, I guess, Paul from England would consider his country, England, to be a common law country. And I think the foundation of a country being a a common law country is if it has at its foundation the common law from the Bible, it's a it's a Christian nation, and then the cornerstone would be common law courts.
And so is is that accurate that having titles of nobility doesn't necessarily take away from the fact that the country is a common law country because we don't use them here in America, but I guess they would use them in England. And I was wondering what Paul thinks about that too.
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Well, you're right in that, yes, on a sheet of paper, it is written down that this is a common law country. But in terms of day to day living, they've managed to get hold of the process as it were, so that it doesn't manifest much if at all. Everything has been taken over by acts and statutes issued by government, which, of course, is on this path to rule everything because that's the culture that's built up there. Restoring common law, there are many people over here doing presentations on common law seeking to reignite it. It's gonna take, the restoration of common law courts, which as far as I'm aware, could take place in the in the room behind the pub. I'd be quite happy for that. So would most of the jurors probably because they could go out for a drink after they decided to hang someone or whatever they were gonna do. But in in terms of its practical care, it's not carried out much. It just isn't. I mean, we had a a home secretary, Jack Straw, of the tribe back in the nineties saying, oh, we don't need juries anymore.
They're they're old hat. We don't need them. Whereas, of course, it's the one thing that we absolutely must have
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Yeah. Yeah. To restrain and constrain the power of idiots like him. But, you know, he's not an idiot, really. It's just that his goal is completely the opposite of what ours is. I think you've got the same setup over there that we've got over here, which is, the constitution being overridden by the uniform commercial code. I think you're dealing with the same situation over there. Remember in the feudal era, if you, the the law that overrule that ruled over the manners was Mhmm. Was the Babylonian merchant code. It was the law merchant. And the reason for it was when before they switched to countries, back when it was all fiefdoms, and the fairs trading fairs would go through Europe and travel around. That was the law that was used in the trading fairs, was the law merchant. So they just transferred it to the manors.
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Yep.
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Yeah. I mean, there's been a line of of let's say it's progress from slavery to serfdom to peasants, and what they're seeking to do is to reverse that. Well, they yeah. Well, they've got us And they're a long way to it. They're a long way because although we are told over here that we live in a sort of free and democratic country, nobody experiences that at all anymore. And we were talking about it yesterday. No one or very few people can actually financially plan their life much for the simple reason that every single bill I don't know if it's the same with you. Every single bill that a normal household faces, either rent, mortgages, they've not affected so much with the interest rate. But rent, gas, electricity, services, utilities, council tax, which is this local tax, they just all go up all the time. The prices of everything keeps going up all the time, and this is economic warfare. There's no Yeah. You know, they will give you all these sort of apparent reasons for why it's taking place, but it's just it's an attack. It's an attack by using the machinery of civilization to effectively strip people of their purchasing power so that they can be, you know, controlled. I know you all know that, but that's that's it's very obvious that this is what's happening. The enemies are so
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in in command of these different factions, then they can weaponize them against us, and we don't know what's happening. This I mean, what does the Bible constantly refer to the merchants of the earth? Well, who's doing this? The merchants of the earth. Who are the merchants of the earth? What law does the merchants use? Well, since Babylon, they've used the Babylonian merchant code called the law merchant for a while still in some circles, now called the uniform commercial code. Well, they've been using that for thousands of years. They know how to take every element of that law that has a real good legitimate purpose and twist it around and use it on you. And that's why they're doing that is they've got this mastery of it. Same thing with the monetary system and the whole financial system. There are in the common law, there really aren't any kind of laws necessarily that apply to all these financial situations.
So anytime the financial situations come up, you almost always have to refer to the UCC. Roger? Yes. That's how those two bodies have been blended, by the way, the first time in Rome and, again, in our country. Okay. Who was trying to say something there? That was that was Brent. Can if you can hear me? Yeah, man. We can hear you, please. Yeah. Here. Here's what I wanna ask.
[02:07:53] Unknown:
These are things I've been wanting to ask for a long time, and, it just didn't work out right for whatever reason, and maybe this isn't the best time either. Now with all that introduction, I want to ask Paul. Paul is a man who he has told me at some time in the past, I don't remember, that he went up against the banksters in the courts of England at one time. And I've gone up up against the bank banksters, the big banks, some of them here in The States. And I've even gone into the appellate courts, and the things that I learned were instructive to say the least. But I've never heard Paul's story, which apparently was a, moment for him the way he told me a little bit about it. Paul's story of his experience going into the courts against the banksters.
Is that a story that's worth telling now? Or even, is it too long to reach it a little now? Or what what can we do there? Is it possible we can hear about that poll?
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Yeah. I I won't go on it greatly. I mean, I think many people probably heard it before. And if not, I could do a longer one at some other point. It's, it's half captivating and half embarrassing for me because because I'm an idiot in the process. I I went from being an uneducated idiot to being an educated idiot. And then after the court case, I decided to stop being an idiot. And that's what I've been doing here. I was a non I was a blind, happy, naive, positive, sort of 30 in my early thirties. Uh-huh. Interestingly, although I'm jumping ahead a bit, that, basically, what happened was that I bumped into someone, about 1993, '90 '4. So this is over thirty years ago. I can't believe I just said that. It's so strange, isn't it, saying things like that? And, I didn't know anything much about him. He was a very softly spoken man called Raymond Patrick Ibrahim Grant. He was as English as I am. Right? But he had this middle name, Ibrahim. The story came out later on how why he had acquired this.
But he was I just spent the eighties in a sort of marketing organization led by a guy who I thought, I'm never gonna meet anybody as interesting as this guy ever again in my life. Right? Maybe it's just because you're highly impressionable in your twenties and how wonderful that all is, frankly. You have all these sorts of ambitious dreams about things. So I had a I had a really good time in the in the eighties, but I ended up being sort of independent. And, what happened was we were hanging around in this space on Old Street in London called ASLIB, which is stands for the Association of Librarians.
That's exciting, isn't it? I can see you're all going, boy, do I want to be a librarian. Well Yeah. Actually, it was we're all there for really, ulterior purposes, which was that they were a sort of a slightly semi government funded thing. And controlling all the libraries of England in the early nineties, it was important. Right? You know, they've got to get all these textbooks and all this kind of stuff. But the main reason we were there is that they had this high speed Internet connection. It was an ISDN line at a 28 k.
Right? Now this was rocket fuel at the time because you you had a modem, which was like I can't remember what it was. It was a a 20 whatever it was, it was an astonishing speed. Right? I've got my numbers slightly wrong. And so it became a bit of a sort of, a honeypot for all sorts of strange and interesting people. There were, rocket scientist kids that used to come down from Oxford and Cambridge, all with their fuzzy beards, all eating pizza. So nothing's really changed. Right? This is in the nineties. All talking gobbledygook.
And they were great. They were really good. And they all came down there to sort of, you know, make use of this connection because they wanted to do coding and all this blah blah. Anyway, there were these other meetings that took took place. This guy turned up at this meeting. He handed me a copy of a newsletter that he was writing and circulating amongst, he said, about 15 or 20 of his business colleagues and partners. And, there was stuff in it, topics in it that I didn't even know existed at the time. There were just questions about things. I thought, what's this that I'm reading? Like, he did one on why Britain had been a haven for criminals for thousands of years from from Mainland Europe and how that had all worked for a long time, all the criminality in London.
I'm going, oh, that's interesting. Then there was a whole section on the control of the pop music industry. This is 9495 I'm reading this stuff about the use of lyrics, organized by Chatham House and the rest over here to assist with the breakup of the family, which is what the sixties was about. Okay? We're all teenagers now. And I think I've mentioned him, you know, my dad was born in 1920 yeah. All that stuff, you know. I guess it was groovy for some, you know. But when you're young, you don't have the discernment to even know what's going on. It's just like, I don't mind, you know. And, but my I remember my dad wasn't a teenager because they didn't have them in the nineteen thirties, did they? They didn't have them.
So, all these little things. So he was writing about topics I knew nothing about. And then he started to talk about banking. And I was, after about a year and a half of reading these things and meeting him sort of every couple of weeks, twice a month or something, he'd come along to these meetings of an evening. I gave up on the world, basically, Brent. I just went, this is a waste of time. There's There's no point me trying to build a business. I was trying to build a business. I just thought I was gonna be a normal guy and try and build a marketing business. So I was a freelance copywriter at the time.
So I'd always sort of read a lot and research books because I'd go along to briefings. I have to find out about strange products like widgets and things like this. You know, I didn't mind that. I find it quite interesting. And, and then I I suddenly, oh, this is pointless. Everything I'm doing is completely pointless because this whole thing is a complete scam. And then he said, yeah, it is. He said, and I ought to know because I'm part of it, and he was. Because what he what he showed me was the buying and the buying and selling of government debt is what he was involved with, the buying of treasury bills.
And what people are not aware of is that there's a premarket in treasury bills even to this day that's never reported at all. There's a premarket in it. And I don't know. Do you want me to explain this technically? It's not too complicated. But, for example because this will give you a it was all this stuff, and I just went, oh, this is just a joke. This is all a joke. I suddenly realized that money wasn't worth anything other than what they said it was gonna be worth. So, for example, if you think about companies that have got a lot of, think about insurance and pension companies.
So they back up, their investments often by holding t bonds, t bills, you know, government treasury notes. And they will pay slightly, maybe one point above the standard interest rate, and they run for twenty years, and then you get your money back and all this kind of stuff. And there's hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of dollars, pounds wrapped up in all this kind of stuff. Well, what happens is that a gov so the Treasury Department or whoever is sitting around, they go, hey, you know that Treasury bond that we issued twenty years ago for a billion pounds? I go, yes. The bloke that owns this, I'm just gonna sort of personalize it, he's coming in the office in in a month's time. We've got to pay him back. Have we got any money? No.
No. We ain't got any. Oh, crap. What do we do? I know. Let's issue some more. This is how it works. It's just a big pyramid scheme. Right? So they go, let's issue some more. So they go, yeah. We'll we'll issue $2,000,000,000 worth into the market. Then we'll have some money to pay him. I'm really simplifying the whole thing. Uh-huh. So, that's what they did. Now what happens is there is a thing in the contract called an exit price and, a pension company will come along to buy one and they will say, well, look if you buy this, you don't pay face value for this billion pound note. You can have it for 950,000,000.
You can save £50,000,000 by buying it and they go, okay great. So they make an agreement to do it say three months down the line and this contract is totally bound up with the bank so it always happens because it can't not happen because everything goes really, really bad if it doesn't happen. So the government has sat on this agreement. They're gonna get £950,000,000 in three months' time or the Treasury Department, whoever it is. Right? And they're going, well, that's great, but we'd take a lot less if someone walked through the door today and just give it to us. And they would.
So there's an exit price in the contract. So this piece of paper is absolutely worth £950,000,000. And so there's a private market with cash rich individuals and or major international corporations like the Ford Motor Company, for example, or General Motors or any of the major manufacturers that handling a lot of cash. Someone goes along to them and says, would you like to buy this piece of paper that is absolutely gonna be sold on this day in three months time for £950,000,000 or dollars? How would you like to buy it now for 600,000,000?
They go, would we? That would be great. Yeah. We'd like to do that. So there is a pre market in this piece of paper that runs for two, three months, or whatever it is. And, you can only get invited into it if you've been fully vetted by the banks, and you must buy it with cash. The banks don't lend you money to do this, although although they even have a way of doing that. And this piece of paper will exchange hands twenty, thirty, 40 times as it bumps up in price from 600,000,000 to 610 to 620, all the way up. So the last guy to buy it buys it for, say, 940,000,000, and then he sells it to the insurance company. They come and pay 9 and he makes £10,000,000 on it. There is no risk in that chain of exchanges.
None. It's you're buying something that's already way, way more valuable, than what you're gonna pay for it. You remember Roger Moore, the actor that played James Bond? Yes. He was involved in it. They invited him in because Roger had a bit of money. They said, would you like to get involved? They went, yeah. They said, okay. You can get involved and just make piles of money, but you must work for the United Nations. So this is how so it's a control thing. Now, you say, well, why do they need to do all this? Because cash, and this is why this CBDC thing is so dangerous.
Cash is the one bit of the economy that they've never been able to control, and they don't like that. No. Because you could go off and buy a bicycle, and they wouldn't even know that you bought it. Although with the Internet now, they know everything. Right? But at the time, thirty years ago, they don't like it. They want to know everything because they're seeking to manipulate the system 100%, a perfect internal control system from their point of view.
[02:18:40] Unknown:
I know that. There's a voice.
[02:18:42] Unknown:
Yeah. That sounds like chattel paper. I yield.
[02:18:47] Unknown:
It does. I was gonna have, Jefferson. I ran across a Thomas Jefferson quote. He was mentioned earlier in the show. He understood this. I don't know to what extent, but the quote was no discounting of notes. That's right. Series of what you did started with discounting the note.
[02:19:07] Unknown:
That's right. And they discount all the time. And there's a private discount market that nobody knows about. There's never reported on. And Ray did all this, and one of his clients was the Ford Motor Company in England. Okay. And he told me, he said, I make more money for the Ford Motor Company than they do selling cars. He said, and that's true of Altman and all these major international things. I had another guy called Steven who ended up working with him for a bit, and he sent Steven off, on certain meetings. And he was telling me at one, somewhere in Switzerland, right, you can't even look at the other guy that's in the room. There's like a protocol.
So you have to walk into this room backwards and sit down on a chair so that you don't see one another, and then they both talk to the wall. Oh my god. It's just bizarre. It's absolutely bizarre. And at first, I said, is all this true? He said, yeah. Yeah. And it's over the year and a half, I began to see it. So I was involved in something with him, and he was using me as bait. Right? So this guy was not right? He was using me as bait because he wanted to destroy the Bank of England, which, let's face it, is I how cool is that? Oh, yeah. So and the reason and he had I mean, it gets, now it gets into all this seedy stuff. Really, really foul stuff like the corruption, the sexual corruption of judges, and etcetera. All this stuff with the pedophilian stuff, he was aware of all of this.
I remember we were right driving around London One Point. He points to a street. He said, you know what? It's on that street. I said, no. He said, there's dungeons down there, and all the judges go there regularly. I said, okay. This is getting a bit weird. I'm in my mid thirties. I'm still quite naive. Right? That was way out back then
[02:20:50] Unknown:
Yeah. For people like us. Because it's shattering your illusion. The illusion that you'd grown up in your whole life. You know? Well, it's true, but I loved it as well. I absolutely
[02:21:02] Unknown:
It's provocative. But it made me impossible to talk to at parties. Everybody everybody thought by about '97 or '98, if I ever got invited to parties, I'd start talking. And people would just look at me, you're completely barking mad. And I'm going, okay. I don't know how much get another invitation from them again. And I'm I gotta tell you something I know. I wanna tell you something super quirky though because at the moment, since what's happened to me over the last few weeks, I'm tidying everything up. It's really good. I'm working hard on the house. I'm getting rid of loads of stuff because I've done nothing for eight years while I've been looking after my wife. Right? And so things have changed massively and and it's good. And it's a positive thing for me to do. There's the grief is over on one side Yep. But working is really good medicine. And I don't feel bad or ruined by all of this. I'm just going, this thing has happened to loads of people. We've all got that journey coming. It's shit that it happened so early, but I can't do anything about it. I did everything I possibly could to extend it. And I'm tidying all this paper up. Now, when I used to meet up with with with him on these service stations around the M 25, which is this big road that runs all the way around Greater London. It's about 250 miles all the way around. Okay? And it right now, at this time, it'll be absolutely cheek by jowl. There'll be people stuck on there for years if they don't go off right now because it's just crammed on a Friday afternoon. You can't get off it and on it. But, I used to meet him at all these sort of restaurants and stuff. And he would have a pen and a pad, and he would be writing notes.
And I would look at them, and I didn't understand what I was looking at. I said, what and one day, I said, what is that that you're writing? I said, it's not English, is it? He said, no. He said, it's Arabic shorthand. I said, okay. He said, actually, it's my own language based on Arabic. He said, I'm the only person in the world that can read it. I said, okay. So he said, so I leave all my notes around my office. Doesn't matter if they come in and steal it all. Right. Because no one can read it except me. And where I worked with him no. I mean, I I was telling my sons the other day, they said, dad, you really need to write a novel about this or something. I'm thinking maybe I do now that I've had thirty years to think about it. The place where I worked, the carpets were all electrified. If anybody came in, they'd get killed. There was, like, 40,000 volts running through carpets. There were secret compartments. I'm not kidding. It's like James Bond. There were sliding doors. Right? All this kind of stuff. He told me that he had, you know, you might be I'm getting carried away now, so you have to tell me to put a rein on it if I start running off at the mouth. But I have during the Cold War, they built all these nuclear bunkers around London. Right?
And there was one on a farm in Essex. There were several. It was so that the government bods could escape, you know, buy a special sort of tube train and possibly manage what was left of England if bombs fell on us. That was the idea. Essex A farm isn't Essex real snooty? No. It's it's a bit of both. It's got a very well-to-do bit, and it's also where your real sort of it's like the home base of East End Cockneys, where they've got where there aren't any Cockneys left. But that sort of real London and so you will, all that, they come from there. There's a they're they're different type of people from Essex. They're very sort of well, they're just the way that they are. And, he knew this farmer, and one of these underground bunkers was on his land, so he bought it off him.
It went down about I think he said about 15 levels or something. And he had it stuffed with cash. I know this sounds mad. Right? My lord. It's just he he was trying to seize all the cash out of the economy to to to asphyxiate what they were doing. It's just it's ridiculous stuff. So the inflation didn't show? Yeah. No. No. He just he knew that the pressure point was cash. If you force them to keep issuing cash, they can't manipulate the back end book to the same degree. This was there. No doubt with computers, it shifted on way way beyond that. But it's all about discounting paper in a private market, which is basically theft. It's theft from the people at large. And, he wasn't too happy about this because he came from a military family. He lost a lot of uncles and things in World War two. I met his mum who only had one lung. She was definitely of the military type. She'd come she'd been in the British army. And so he just came from from this sort of position, and he hated their guts. But he was very intelligent sort of guy.
And, I came across some of these notes, by the way. That's why I didn't finish off my story. In tidying it up, I came across this folder with a lot of the things that had happened at the time, which I've kept, including details of the court case and me appearing on the front page of a national newspaper and all this kind of stuff. Right? Much to the chagrin of the people that knew me, they didn't wanna talk to me. They just looked at this thing because on the Sunday front page of this major Sunday newspaper, and they all looked at me and went, right. Anyway, anybody wanna buy me something?
Right? I didn't know what to say. And my wife, she was absolutely fantastic. She just stood by me like a rock. It was just brilliant, really. And, but I came across these notes, and I showed them to my lads the other day. And I'm going, I said, look. See? It's real. They go, what is that? I'm just going, yeah. That's what I said. I said, don't worry. No one can read it. No one probably ever can except him. So one thing led to another, and, he'd formed his own bank, which they would say unlawfully, but he didn't care. We were quite cavalier about things as well.
And what he told me, which I don't think he intended to do, because when you think about it, this is so naive and stupid, was that we could take the profits from this paper trading, and we could redistribute it amongst the English people so that they didn't have to be in debt. Oh, Robinhood. Yep. Yeah. So I'm completely ripe for that. Right? It's just right up my street. Okay. And, so we issued these things called what were they called? PRs. I I don't know what it was an acronym for something. And you paid £60 for them. And at the end of the year, you got £200 back. Of course, everybody says it's rubbish, but it wasn't it wasn't rubbish. It was a fraction of what he was making off the £60.
Just he said, we can't give him too much because nobody even less. But we've gotta get a move on with it. And he but what he was really doing, he was he was sending out bait to attract in the other side. And, I remember when the the proverbial shit hit the fan as it were, he was just loving it. I was, of course, completely thrown and not a happy bunny because I didn't know what I was involved with. Right? I was just out there, like, you know, green as grass with the whole thing. But he loved being in court. If I he just told me. He said, for some reason, I've spent my entire life in court arguing against the authority. First time, he was eight, and he bore witness against a policeman when he was eight years of age. Yeah. Amazing guy. Just amazing. It's just the way he thought.
And and I knew these other guys that were with us, and they would come up and say, can you figure Ray out? I'm going, no. Nope. I've never met just the way he thought about things. It was it was quite a journey, really. And, yeah, that we we went to court, but he refused to appear. He was the number one defendant. So I go into court on the first day. This isn't the hike I don't know if you ever see it on the TV, but it's the biggest court in English. It's the Strand. Right? It's the wrong court justice. Called the king's bench. Yes. A king's bench and all that is there. I go into that. I'm completely out of my depth. Right? And, I went, he didn't even turn up.
He didn't bother to come. I'm going, what? I'm calling him on the phone on the train going back on the first day, which was a Tuesday. I'm saying, where were you? He said, I can't be bothered to come. He said, I'll tell you when we meet at the weekend. He said, but I've got I I said, I've got my people in the courtroom. He said, you did really well today. I said, okay. Okay. I met him at the weekend. I said, why are you not showing up? He said, the charges are not heavy enough. I said, what? He said, the this is flimsy stuff. What he told me was he had he had evidence on the corruption of the British government going all the way back to World War two, and they knew it. They knew that he had this stuff.
So what they were doing is they were running interference with lesser charges so that he couldn't bring this stuff out as part of his defense, because they knew well, that's exactly what he wanted to do. And I remember him telling me he met with a silk, so a silk slightly higher than a barrister over here, because he had a lot of powerful friends, even though he'd taken a vow of poverty. I know it sounds odd, but he had. Right? He didn't pay himself much. He said, I'm not interested in all that. And, the silk had said, well, look, if we do this and we do that, we can get you off. He said, I don't want you to get me off.
And they were going, well, he said, I I I can't take the brief. It's my job to get you off. He said, I'd be I'd be going against his oath or whatever it is. He said, you can't employ me and have me work to get you prosecuted. He said, right. Okay. Well, don't bother don't bother then. It was, there are lots of oddities about it. You know, you'd seen things on TV, think, well, no, you fight like mad to defend your honor. No. No. No. No. He wanted to get trapped even more by them, and they wouldn't do it. And he he had people. So at the time, there was an agency over here called the the DTI. It's being disbanded and replaced by some other alphabet thing, which stood for the Department of Trade and Industry.
He had I went in and sat down with him some weeks after this initial court thing. And, he said, hey. Read this. And it was a report on him, walking his dogs late at night and everything. I said, what's this? He said, well, he said, this is a DTI report on me. I said, well, how did you get that? He said, I've got guys in the DTI that work for me. I'm just going, what is going on? So it's like, yeah, I got into it was just bizarre. It was really, really bizarre. Every time I spoke to him, there was a new door opened up in terms of what was taking place with the logic of the situation. So he'd planned this very deeply and was seeking to disrupt certain things. It was fascinating. He he got locked up, in, where was it, Colchester Prison or somewhere. So I go to see him. He came out happy as Larry. He's in his orange suit. I said, are you okay? I said, yeah. I'm fine. It's great. He said, I've just he said, I'm working with loads of guys in here. He said, I'm I'm quite busy. He said, I'll be out in a few months. He he did he just couldn't care less. And, he said, I'm getting loads of them off. He said they're all coming to see me. He's got all these clients in prison. Oh, they have to kick him out real quick. Yeah. He was just sorting through their paperwork and getting them to get all their cases dismissed and everything. He said they all like me in the air because he wasn't a physically strong guy. He wasn't a tough guy. He was a highly intelligent, desk man.
And the story of how this came about, whilst I'm at it tell me to shut up because I'm you know, if if if if you've had had enough. But I said, how did you get into all this? I said, what happened? You know, how why do you do this? And, you know, because he trained as an an engineer at Hawker Siddeley, the the people that made the Harrier jump jets. He worked as a on jet engines when he was 16. He left school. So very bright. He's an engineer, really. And, he ended up working at Dickson's, which was a massive electrical retail chain here in the eighties. Late seventies, eighties, early nineties, huge. They had hundreds and hundreds of stores selling Japanese TVs and cassette recorders and all that kind of stuff, PCs when they first came out. Yeah. And the head guy that ran it was a guy called Stanley Kalms of the tribe. Okay?
And Ray was running the computer department there early on. He'd he'd end up getting into computers because so that was where so he's running a midi or a mini. Remember mainframes and all that kind of stuff before the PC? And Stanley Combs took a shine to him for some reason. He said, look, I'm going on a buying trip to buy all this stuff. We're gonna go to Tel Aviv, and then we're gonna drive all the way back in my Bentley. And I want you to come for a few weeks. He said, and I'll show you, you know, what we do. By the time Ray got back to England, he hated Stanley Combs, and he hated Dixons.
Because what he told me was, he said, they had about 40 import and export companies up and down this chain, which they owned, and they were raking it off on every single one. So that by the time the goods got into Britain, they cost what they did, and they pocketed all this money into secret accounts, which Ray found. He found a lot of money in these accounts that no one was supposed to know about because he was in charge of the
[02:33:34] Unknown:
Sounds like a Doge.
[02:33:38] Unknown:
Yeah. So what he did was he took all that money one morning and he paid it over to the Salvation Army. He just sent it to them. I remember him telling me this. This is so funny. Right? He said so I went in and I was just so angry about this that they were ripping us off that I just found it was a huge chunk of money, a couple of million quid, which had been huge at the time. He said, and I just sent it over. I think it was the Salvation Army he sent it to. And then he said, I went for my lunch break, and I was walking around. And they were in Paddington, which is sort of this region of London. And he said, I real he said, I knew I'd done wrong. I shouldn't have done that.
So he went to Paddington Police Station and tried to arrest himself. I said, what do you mean? He said, well, the desk sergeant just thought I was mad and kicked me out about four times. I had to keep going back in. He said, no. Look. I've committed a crime. They're gonna get out of here. They just wouldn't didn't wanna listen to me. He was mad. Anyway, this is what happened was that it it went to court. When it came to the bit like this account, the the legal representative for Dickson's denied any knowledge of it at all. Any. And they got him on a lesser charge, and they put him down for two years. It was some they made sure that nobody knew about these accounts even though the money had gone, because they were gonna use them again or whatever.
When he's in prison, he'd been in prison about two weeks, and, the warder comes to see he says, you've got two visitors. He said, I don't have any visitors. My mom came to see me whenever, you know. He said, these guys are here. They've got the authority to see you. They're they're gonna be here in a few minutes. So they came in to see him. They were from MI 5 or MI 6, something like that. And they said, we've reviewed your case. We know exactly what went on. We know that you were right, but there's nothing we can do in the public space without revealing all these things, so we're not bothered about it. But we like the cut of your jib and what you've done, and, we've got a proposition for you. You can either serve out the next three years here in prison, or you can come and work for us.
So he said, okay. I'll work for you. So they posted him to Saudi Arabia, where he ended up training the Royal Saudi Air Force because he was a an engineer, and he was training their maintenance crews on dealing with, British jet engines in fighter planes out there. This is in the eighties, the early eighties, I think. No. Maybe late seventies, something like that. And, they all liked him out there. This is why he took on this name Ibrahim and learned about Islam and all sorts of other things. He was well read in sort of lots of different ways. And, he ended up working for a sheikh out there called Sheikh Salah, which is a very powerful family. They had something like 450 companies, and they one of his construction companies ended up building Riyadh Airport for which Ray designed all the air conditioning systems.
And whilst it was at this point that this world of financial jiggery pokery came into his life because he said, he said, now when you're on large construction projects, there's a lot of cash all over the place, tons of it, and he was in charge of it. And he was so good with this. I could see for just the way his mind worked. He's absolutely he couldn't. He was just brilliant, really, with the whole thing. Didn't miss a thing. And, so Sala just came to trust him like his right hand man, and, he did a very impressive job for him whilst he was out there. And, they found out about this circuit with this buying and selling of government paper, and a guy turned up. So he was thinking about it, and he said to Sal, he said, I'm gonna do this. So Salah said to him, I'll lend you the money. He said, no. He said, if it goes tits up. He said, you'll never trust me again, and it'll ruin our relationship. So I've saved the money from what I've been doing, and I'm gonna do it. And I think he had £10,000,000 at the time, which was quite a bit.
He said, I'll I'll do it, and then we can watch it and see how it goes. He said, you could maybe help me in some ways. He said, sure. He said, but I'm gonna take the risk financially. So, they set it all up. They do it sign a contract. He pays this money over, and they're expecting to get a payment in six weeks time. And these payments would come through once a week, at this time, in briefcases or suitcases full of cash. How about that? I know it sounds mad. And, he said, so the the guy turns up on the first week and gives them, I don't know, £4,000,000 back or something. He was gonna get £4,000,000 a week for, like, forty weeks for 10,000,000 I mean, it's just astronomical. It's so stupid when you look at it. Right?
The numbers are just mad. So this guy comes in. He drops this suitcase off. They look at it. And Salah says to him, what do you think? He said, I think he's just given us a bit of my own money back. And they they both agreed. He said, can you can you bugger him about a bit on his flight back? And Salah said, sure. Yes. So he said, this poor guy, they made him miss every train, every plane. There there were delays because he owned all these companies that were transporting him back to the airport and stuff like this. But, anyway, he managed to get back in another ten days or whatever it was, and this went on. And he ended up understanding it more fully.
He ended up running it for this shake. His reputation grew because he had ironclad integrity around this stuff. He took a very small fee. I think he said his his fee was 1%. I said, oh. He said it's more than enough. And he and he learned more and more and more about it. And as he learned more about it, he became more and more angry about it. It was as simple as that. So he was a, very a very interesting guy. And I know someone visit when he he just moved back to England. He'd been back in England about two years when I I met him because his mother had got ill. So he'd moved his entire trading operation back to this house out in in Essex. My friend went to see I never got to see him at the house because he was he was quite a private man, but a good colleague of mine had met him there.
And inside his converted office, he had 48 telephones, all of them on scramblers, because they didn't have encryption and the Internet then. Right? All of these telephones. Because he's talking to all these people. There's there's about 20 he told me, so there's about 25 people in the world, of which he was one by now, who buy and sell this paper on behalf of this structure, as it were, to make money for whoever their clients are. And they all need to know each other. And it's all scrambled, and it was just this it was like sort of James Bond on finance and stuff. And, yeah. So wacky. Wacky. And Wow. We ended up just running foul of the whole thing, and I ended up in court. And then after that, my real because the court was run by, members of the tribe.
In fact, the guy the head guy was a guy called Neuberger who talked, who lied twice. I would no one else would have known, but I knew. He lied twice. He just started making numbers up in his head about things. And I'm going, what are you talking about? And, then they find us a million quid, which was a bit of a blow. That was supposed to fall on Ray, but he was nowhere to be found. So I thought, this is not looking so good. So I lived on cash for six years. I, I just I couldn't be part of this. I didn't really I had a bank account, but I didn't use it. And I just managed I got some friends who'd been part of what we were doing in Europe. I ended up working for them in another capacity, and they paid me cash, and I managed to muddle through. So maybe I should write it down. There's a there's a lot that I've missed out. It's It sounds like an intriguing,
[02:41:17] Unknown:
intriguing Yeah. Book, really, Paul.
[02:41:21] Unknown:
I need to send it into a film. I don't know who's gonna play me. It wouldn't be Tom Cruise. Would these two
[02:41:26] Unknown:
If there's anybody listening to me, I may. Not know. Give me just a second. Let me say something, Dave. If there's anybody here that hasn't known or or is new, this is the guy the way we do things around here is all responsible. And this guy right here. Yes, Dave.
[02:41:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Paul, what a fascinating story. You know, my stepfather was an MIT grad, and he was a city planner. And he rode on a bicycle in the sixties, and he designed the city, one of the big cities in in Saudi Arabia. I don't know which one. He's not listening to him, but he looked exactly like Benny Hill. This this story you're telling, I'm I'm watching in my head Benny Hill and Monty Python troop running around. That's who you need to get to right, to help you make a movie out of this. This is incredible stuff. You're amazing, guy. Brilliant.
[02:42:21] Unknown:
It is. It's brilliant. Thank you. It it it is. It's it's absolutely amazing stuff. It it it was. And we were I mean, there were about half a dozen people that I knew that he was telling it to, but I really bit hard. I just sort of, like it really got me. Because, you know, when you're young and you have an instinct that something's absolutely not right and you don't know what it is, you just don't know what it is. You just go, this ain't it shouldn't be like this. My my instinct for that started when my dad would come home with all this cash, because he was a travelling salesman. He would count it all out, and they didn't pay him enough. They didn't pay him enough. I couldn't work it out. I just couldn't work out why he'd had all this cash, and he didn't I didn't think it was all his. That's still what I'm saying. But it it just struck me. The whole thing with money was always perplexing to me. I couldn't and I could see you can see that it's the cause of so much pressure. It's their great control tool.
And when when he showed showed me that this is what they were doing and they they've probably got other things now. I mean, maybe that's just peanuts, but at the time, that's what they were doing. It's kinda pre Internet. This is how it all worked at that time. I just came to the view that that it was literally pointless trying to build an honest business. What is the point? The whole of society is basically suborned to this, and it needs to be destroyed. And I've never changed my feelings of view. So I've been holding on to that for nearly over thirty years. And, finding how to do it, though, then you study all the history of it and you go, I don't know. Well, there's a lot of other people now. I oh, lots of people are aware that there's charging of interest on loans and this manipulation is very, very bad. It's not and then you find out it's not biblical. And that's what I've said before. I came into looking at scripture because of this monetary thing. I wanted to know what scripture said about money and how do we deal with it. And then you start studying Babylon, and you see the whole line of it, and it all comes down. And, fundamentally, all complexities aside, nothing's changed. It's human nature of certain people that are nearly human, I suppose, to want to subjugate the rest. And and the control of the bank has been their greatest weapon. It still is.
And if they get CBDCs, it's like, you know, a thousand atom bombs going off. It's not gonna be good for us because their track record's not good, is it? The battle we fight today
[02:44:33] Unknown:
is the same battle that's been fought from the beginning of time. Yep. And that's Lex Rex versus the common
[02:44:41] Unknown:
law. It is. It is. And I think, you know, it puts into it's why I get quite inspired about the fact that Christ whipped the money changers. It's it's I'm going, hey. I'm with you. And I keep thinking that if I had a time machine, that's the one day in history I'd go back on. I mean, maybe it should be to go and see him building the pyramids, but I think that's a long time ago. That's the day I would pick, the whipping day. And I've got this I think I've mentioned it here before. I've got this book on my shelf by this guy, the American economist, Michael Hudson. He's still alive and writing some great stuff. He's very sharp. I've seen him on Kaiser's video. Very sharp. And the this one's called And Forgive Them Their Debts.
And it's about the year of jubilee and the dynamically positive things that occur from it. And if we wanna sort you know? So, like, when I watch the economic news here, which I don't really, because they're all going this, that, the other. We can't do this. We can't do that. No. None of them understand. Of course, none of them be able to do it. They get killed if they tried to do this, like Caesar did, because that's what Caesar was gonna do, is you just forgive all the debts, and then the whole of the civilization can breathe again, and it will grow again, because it always does.
But the people that are holding all the debt, you know, the creditors, they don't want that. So that's anyway, it's nothing new. And the big deal is to
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this is a great phrase, the lev the leaven of the Pharisees. K? Well, leaven, of course, is yeast. And if you wanna see the leaven of the Pharisees over here in this financial system present day, we've got 37 doll thousand trillion dollars of fictitious fraudulent debt that everybody's scrambling to try and pay a trillion dollars a year in interest alone, and they wanna hook you to that debt. And what we do is unhook you from it, and they can't say anything. And, eventually, should that go on theoretically, they would eat their own paper.
We'll see.
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We'll see. Yeah. We will see. I think we just keep plugging away. If somebody wants to act you something yes, ma'am?
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Well, there's there's three. And I'll just rattle them all off and whatever you wanna answer. Okay. So, is there any investment for older I guess, that's kinda like a dumb question since, you know, it's all it's all a setup. You know? Is there any investment? QVC Trust, did he mention your the guy that you learned from, did he mention anything about that? And then there's this thing about oh, I forgot the name of it. Shucks. Third one, I forgot. I forgot the name of it. Okay. I yield.
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No. I don't think we didn't talk about that much. The one thing slightly aside from this that got me as much as all the financial stuff railway station on the East Side Of London because I was living on the Western. So it's like, an hour and a bit to get home. It's a Friday evening. And we're driving along, and there's one of these really miserable government buildings. I don't know what yours are like, but ours are just architecturally devoid of anything. They're just like blocks of you know, they're like commie bits of garbage. And it was a single story building, like a big long shed. And he said, do you know what that shed is or something? I said, no. He said, well, that's the place where they gather in all the birth certificates.
I said, what? From where? He said, well, the local area. He said he said, they're all over England. They said they gather all the cert Yep. He said, do you know what do you know what they do with the certificates? At at the time, I said, no. What do they do with them? He said, well, they bundle them up. They send them off to the treasury. And, the treasury, once a month or whenever, will look at everything that's come in. And what they do is they come up with a figure of how much income tax they expect that baby to pay when it becomes fully employed in the economy, and they'll come up with a a number. And then what they do is they use the birth certificate, a surety for a loan, to borrow that amount of money from a private bank Mhmm. At interest to fund what they're gonna keep on doing. In other words, they're basically using you as collateral for a loan. And I got very, very cross about that.
Very easy. The
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the the birth certificate, they're using it in a dual capacity there as a representation of your birth. And on the other side, they're using it as a warehouse receipt, a commercial document. Yeah. They are. The where the paper the warehouse receipt actually takes on the quality of the good and becomes the paper. So and that where they were keeping them in the shed, it was in a safe. Go ahead, Paul. Sorry to interrupt.
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Yeah. No. I mean, it's just it was more of an emotional moment. We didn't discuss it technically. It's just the thought that you are going to be deceived before you're even conscious into being placed as surety for alone is just repellent. And it but it's so useful in the sense that it reveals the mentality of the other side, and they literally do view you as chattel.
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And their book says they have the right to own us and do that. And that's how they use plausible deniability, rationalization, and justify themselves.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's true. So, you know,
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which temple do you wanna go to? Mammon or God? It's that's it. Really? It is. It really is. It always comes back to this. Just like I said, Lex Lex Rex versus the common law. It's what we're doing here, thousands of years later.
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So Pun. So how are you? I just I do think we kind of need this spiritual restoration to give people insight as to why it's valuable that they don't go into the temple of Mammon. Yes. But it's very difficult because I think that the other aspect of it is on a sort of day to day pragmatic basis is I view the use of money. They've turned us like drug addicts. It's like a drug. If you think about it, but you need more of it, don't you, next year to maintain the same hit this year. That's designed. So you are now dependent on the drug supplier, which is the the people that issue the credit. That's exactly what they want. You can never get your brain free up free enough to start thinking cogently and coherently about the things that really matter. We are compelled to think about all these things that fundamentally shouldn't exist, that are bogus and really don't matter because they're nothing to do with having a happy family life. And that's why we can't get one. You know. We have us worshiping the golden calf of materialism.
Yeah. Well, I suppose, you know, from an enlightened view, you could say that to a great degree we brought it on ourselves, and it's the internal battle that we've all got. And I think we do all have that battle. Exactly. I agree. You know, we've all had it, and it doesn't go away. But talking about it helps us at least recognize that internal battle. And you go, shouldn't you know, is it better if I can find a way of working with other people where we all contribute to one another? I know it sounds a bit sort of hippie dippie la la la, and that's why you need law because people will take even advantage of your good nature as we well know. They they do it. But we really want to express ourselves, I think, in that way. We just you know, it's much better to be kindly to other people and have them be kindly back than to seek to view other people as some sort of thing to be exploited.
Yep. And that's, you know anyway, they're staying the obvious. Where the cold and the hot water collide right there.
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Mhmm. Yeah. Please feel free to come back tomorrow, if you want to. I think you'll find this information pretty interesting. I'm gonna go here in a second. I gotta my stomach's driving me crazy. There was who was trying to say something?
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Female? There's a Yeah. There's a spec trading I'm sorry. I keep I keep jumping in. But there's a spec of trading where, oh, I think the stock's gonna go down by, you know and I forget the term of it.
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Shorting. It's a yeah.
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Did did he talk about any of that?
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Your the the guy you learned from? Yield. No. I'm sure he was he was aware of it. He I mean, he had he even he even trained, forex traders and had a team working for him, and would fund them and watch them. He was extremely, tight. One of the things he but it was for good reason. I remember him talking just about setting up businesses. He said, you'll find that people set up a business and it'll be working and going okay. And then, another one will come along that might tempt them or they think that because they've been a success of this one they should do this other one. And he said and what you will find often is they will take money from the successful business and put it into the start up. He said, and I never ever do that. And the reason he gave was, he said, first of all, you're wounding a thing that's healthy, your existing business. You're actually draining it down. You're making it operate under a burden, and that's not good for it. It'll you know, if you got people working there, they'll become slightly demoralized because they don't see the full fruits of their labor coming back to that business or whatever. So that's the first thing. The second thing is he said is that your new business, you'll never know whether it's really viable or not because you're propping it up with this support from elsewhere. If the idea is sound, it can go literally from nothing to a lot if you've got it right and you develop it that way. I think he made an absolute fortune when he was a teenager with, selling bicycles.
It was just amazing. He sold bicycles. And and, yeah, he ended up with four bike shops. He just he he had that quality that I absolutely do not have. I don't I don't have this there's some people just have that touch, don't they? They seem to be able to deal with detail in a way. He struck me in in his business dealings as extremely honorable, but he was so naive. He told me when he was young as a teenager, he ended up in a terrible pickle with the inland revenue. He owed them in the end, he had to pay £1 tax. Oh, he had to sell all these bike companies to friends of his. They said, you've not been running this right. We know it's made loads of money, but you're in a lot of trouble, so we're gonna buy the business off you for a pound. And it really all this sort of machinery of administration, he had become extremely familiar with it and reveled in it in a way. It was his it was his skill set. And, I found all that stuff incredibly unappealing and of no interest whatsoever, but it is important. You know? Yeah.
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Yeah. Who said Paul?
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Oh, is it I didn't mean to interrupt. I just wanted to ask to point out something. You know, one of the the biggest things in the Bible financially that's overlooked back then because they didn't like it. God wanted them to have a jubilee, which they never really performed very well on nor did they leave leave their land lay fallow for seventh year. And a lot of people would make the argument that's one of the reasons God was always unhappy with the people. I yield.
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I think there's a lot of truth in that. Yeah. Well, that's what Hudson's book is about. It's about the year of the jubilee. There's forgive them their debts as opposed to not opposed to, but not forgive them their sins, forgive them their debts. There's something dynamically it's like a good bridge of a sentence. It connects these two things. He makes a kind of proposition that Christ was fighting the money power of the day, and he was. He was. It's very interesting. Because he took I think after that, and I'm not familiar with this, he's dragged off to give a sermon, and he reads something from Isaiah. And everybody in the congregation's not happy because the implication of the reading he's given is you've got to forgive all these debts. You've got to let go of everything. And this is they get really angry with him. I did remember this bit. They're gonna throw him off a cliff. It's a bit of a tough day or a tough couple of days that. He's out whipping people, and he's gonna get thrown off a cliff. So that's what it's that's what you're up against. And like I mentioned, Caesar, when he came back to Rome and he was about to be emperor, there are 150,000 people sleeping in the streets in Rome. He's going, what's going on? Here we are running this big thing, this empire thing, and everybody in Rome's living like crap. So he was going to he was in the process of issuing a jubilee, and that's why he got stabbed because the patrician creditor class were in favor of that. So they killed him. They like their vigorish.
Yeah. They like the vig. They do. So nothing new. No. It's just it's it's exactly the same except with mobile phones. It really is. I I I totally agree with you.
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Yeah. So, well, I'm gonna go eat some lunch, Paul. I'm glad you're I think you should. I'm thinking of you getting too thin. I don't like the idea of you getting thin, actually. Pretty thin. That's pretty good, observation all the way from over there. Yeah. And I think, the the events of the last couple of weeks were a blessing for everyone concerned. I've known about that situation for many years and Yeah. And can only imagine the burden that it put you under. And I I think, everybody's better off. So it's you I can hear it in your voice, actually.
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Yeah. It it's true. And it's actually amplified my connection with God. Yeah. It's actually a blessing. It really is. It doesn't feel like it at times as I'm sort of stumbling around a bit, a bit of a wreck. Yeah. But and I know my wife is really I got a lovely message from someone the other day, which was quite curt, but it was really good. They said, I'm so glad that your wife has gone and got rid of that vile disease. And I thought, absolutely. Yep. Really. Yep. Really. And so I'm thinking of a this is the thing that sort of what's happened is that period, of eight years, you just adjust to things. This is our great strength or weakness. You don't realize how you're operating.
And as soon as it got lifted, I felt weird. I felt I still feel a bit odd now. It's like refamiliarizing myself with the person I used to be up to about 2,016 or 17 when this all started. You know? And, so the period of her illness is fading from memory quickly, which is great. And I'm now looking back on all the good years and thinking she's on to good years now. I'm absolutely I know it. I know it. It's so it's
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My wife died in 02/2003, second wife of cancer. And when she finally and I was by her though you know, with her the whole time. And, when she finally passed, I I went outside and just screamed thank you, God, to the heavens because she was in a much better place. And overseeing that and being responsible to try and help somebody in that situation is quite draining. It's very demanding.
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It is. I'll say one last little thing on it now because I'm gonna say this at the memorial service in a few weeks' time. I don't have the date yet. When she was passing on that evening, and I knew she was going to. I knew all day. We had the TV on, which sounds hellishly Philistine. It was at a very low volume, and it just worked. It was just putting an atmosphere into the room. It was good. It was, I don't know if I think I might have played this clip the other week. I was watching Wolf Hall, which is about Thomas Cromwell. Oh. And, literally, at the moment that she passed, which was effortless I mean, it was so graceful.
It really was. It was amazing. Not a noise. Nothing. It just Yep. Re really quite a thing. And, the character on the screen said, literally, at the moment she's passing, there are no endings, only new beginnings. And I just went right at that very moment, I thought, thank you. Thank you, Dodd. You know? Yeah. So it's true. And it's a very encouraging thought. And, isn't life stunning? It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. Yeah. It really is. It's absolutely you know, you stop taking it for granted the older you get. You just go, wow. Look at this. Yeah. It's wow. It really is. It is. It's absolutely incredible. So,
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anyway, made all the more so by being with you and and your good crowd. So I'll sit on and rock and roll and roll by tomorrow. Well, I think you'll find it very I think you'll find it quite interesting information. And, anyway, if not, we welcome you. And if you got other things to do, we understand. And, just a pleasure to have you, as all we especially here with Brent,
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the three of us. Thanks, Brent, for letting me talk so much. Yeah. I did talk a little bit. We'd love to hear it. Yep. I
[03:01:30] Unknown:
I enjoy listening because I get two reasons. I get tired of talking, but I like to talk. No. That's not true. Nobody believes you on that one. That's not true. Okay. I get you back. My voice gets tired. That's what they're saying. Okay. Alright. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. My voice gets tired. I just text or send a message to you because a very close friend of mine said, when she heard about your your wife's passing, she said my and my husband, when he passed, it was grief followed by relief. Yep. And, that's sounds like what you've described here a little bit. I haven't It's exactly that.
Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly that. Well, it helps me remember, what people go through. And as you said too, we all go through the hardships, whatever they are, and millions and millions have gone through them before. But when it's us going through it, it's it's our experience, and it's our our hardship, and it's our time. And I'm sure you know a lot of things or a lot of things have come home to you that you may have known before. You may have known about before, but you didn't know them like you know them now. I'm guessing.
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That's right. Oh, okay. Absolutely spot on. Spot on. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Oh, there's so much you said here on, about,
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about your own country, about the common law in England, and and what it is. You'd made the point about, the common law isn't followed much. It doesn't seem like and the same thing here. Administrative law has overwhelmed us with a a bramble bush of, covering. We can't even get the plow through it anymore, and that's what I'm sure you're experiencing there. But I still I still have hope because in England, from what I read, the courts still have the authority and the duty to to, overturn unconstitutional legislation and or maybe just in its application in that specific case. But your your constitution is like ours in many ways. Fundamentally, it is like ours, but it's not ours is written down and on the national level and on our state levels.
You know, we have with the idea of that's all separation of power Independent courts, independent executive, independent judiciary, everybody is committed to the same law. We are nations as common law countries under law, not under men, but men are constantly and women trying to assert their authority over law and make us and that our common law, though, I quote some famous maybe it's Gladstone, some famous English. Many said, many many in this chamber making a speech before parliament do not believe that our common law's hand is strong. He said, I believe it's unassailably strong no matter what happens.
And as much as we ignore it, it's still here. And as long as we do have trial by jury, and I understand you do over there still for criminal cases Yeah. Canada for criminal cases, you still have it. The the rate push here, as a practical matter, Christianity is at the foundation of our common law. It's just a story said in our our, push ought to be as a practical matter as Christian folk. As and you mentioned the importance of Christendom. Oh. Yep. I get that too. And I talked to two Canadians that were not across the border riding their motorcycles here not long ago. And one of them one of them was, RCMP, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, just on vacation. The other one worked for one of the airline. Young men. I say young, younger than me. They were in their forties and full of zip and vinegar. And they both said, well, I do believe that, Christian culture is indispensable to us. That was encouraging to hear from a couple younger fellows. But they weren't willing to say, I'm a Christian. You know, they didn't wear it out on their sleeve, but they were willing to say, well, Christian culture is good, and that's who we are, and it's really served us well. And I think that's what I hear you saying when you say Christendom is important.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. It's trying to find a word. It's interesting what you just said then about them saying that they're not Christians. And I think I understand why people wouldn't say that because over here, the reputation of the church, you couldn't even say it's in tatters. It just doesn't have one. It's just viewed, experienced by the vast majority of the people as feeble, completely almost silly. It's got nothing to do with what it's supposed to do. That's the perception of it, whether that's right or wrong. That's that's what's being built up. So people don't profess that. But I quite like the I'm always looking for a word that would bridge some understanding. And at the moment, I quite like this word Christendom because I would simply suggest to people, if you're of European descent, if you come from these people, our stock, you're a Christian. And then they go, no. I'm not. And now they go, no. You are.
You just don't know it yet. Oh, yeah. It's in your bones. You can't get it out. Thankfully, you've been it's been put in your bones and in your blood, and it and, you know, there's no point resisting it. We cultivate.
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Yeah. And we cultivate these ideas. Speaking of being in your bones, you're talking about that, churchyard, that that church that was so beautiful. Yeah. Remember that? Mhmm. Well, I'd heard a an eng a story once about an Englishman. And he was, somebody from Germany or Finland or someplace was, at his at his, home, and they were touring, a beautiful garden. Gardening is very important to the English, or you always has been. And I've never seen an English garden. I've never been there, but we had a song we used to sing as children about an English garden. I remember that. I can remember the melody.
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English
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garden. That's good one? That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That one that one. Well, this fellow was showing, this, fellow from the continent of Europe, the garden there in England. He said, wow. This is beautiful. He said, I wanna I wanna know how you do this. And they said, how you get something like this? I'd like to have something like this back, on my place. And, he said, how do I do it? And he said, well, you've got first you've got to have about seven hundred years. You can't do it. It's not something you plant in a group next year. It's something you, that's right. You know, it's over. It's interesting that these things have happened. And our common law tradition is something that has come to us by the providence of the almighty.
Even before our ancestors were Christian on the continent of Europe, they were pagan. But it came to us and the principles of it. But and then when the Bible finally was infused into the culture, they last on because they saw similarities as we say at home. And and those things have stuck with us for a hundred of years. We've hammered them out, and we've the the laws of nature is god, as we call it over here, our common law tradition, also called due process and all that. Well, I'd yeah. I wanted to hear your point of view. You filled in a lot of gaps for me about, the the leader of the anti European Union movement, Nigel, old Nigel. Yeah. And I I have in interviews of him sitting down and having a glass of beer with somebody, and so you made that point. He's a friendly, jovial chap, as they say over there,
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or bloke. No. Bloke is Australian, ain't it? Do you say Well, we call them blokes, sir. We call them blokes and chaps. Yeah.
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We do. Well, anyway, no. That was good. I'm glad you showed up, and I'm I'm glad that you're having a positive experience, cleaning out your house, going over all paperwork, old paperwork that reminds you of things that tell you you need not throw all that paperwork away because it may be something you need to write a book about the experiences. And you told us more about that stuff I didn't know because you had never told me about this fella you met and and all that. But yeah. Thank you much for showing up. And I'm like Roger. My belly got wrinkles in it, and I'm gonna try to take some of them out. Well, mine has two, but I'm it's still slightly too big. It's still a bit too big.
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I'm walking about four or five miles a day, and I've not got my walk in today. And it looks as I'm gonna miss it because I've just had so many other things to do. But, it's got to go. I don't I'm just looking going. I don't like this is no good. There's too much of me there, and I want it to go. I'm not I'm not gross. I'm quite fit everywhere else. But it's like someone's bolted a little sort of washing tub on the front of me, and I'm going, will you go away? It's just ridiculous. Yeah. It's gotta go. So You're walking on the beach. Right?
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Yep. It is. Good. You're a little more resistance, harder walking a bit. You Mhmm. Sitting on the sand, I guess. But Yeah. Yeah. And pebbles. We have a lot of pebbles here. You do a bit of that, and it'll take that washtub off of of you. Hopefully, I'm thinner tomorrow when I meet up with you, Roger, if I can do that. Okay? With us, my friend. And we always, we always enjoy having you around. You know? So, great. And, Yeah. Thanks for today. Thank you. You and the Friday show are a treasure, I think, and, I look forward to it every week. So, anyway, we'll see you hopefully next week. Good lord willing, the Creek Indians don't rise. And that means we're gonna see you. We get to see Francine. Always a joy too.
And, so we'll, look for you next week. I'll see you Sunday on your on your church service. And let me just give a plug for that. For those of you who may be new and not know this and you don't have a church home, Brent is on every Sunday from nine to eleven now, I think, central. And, it's a nice church home. You get down home, Brent, a lot of stories and a lot of good, biblical discussion. And you can find out about that, of course, over on commonlawyer.com. So thank you both always, and I'll maybe see you tomorrow. Brent, see you next week.
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Yeah. Right right on and right o, as they say over there. And see you both. Thank you, Paul. Cheerio. Pip pip. Cheerio.
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Cheerio. Chaps.
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Alright. Cheerio. Chaps. Cheerio, chaps.
[03:11:59] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Just before I go, I've set up that station thing for you. So if you use Teams to talk to me, if you can, that would be great. We could if you wanna use Teams, I've sent you a message on Teams. But, I've gotta go and do a few things now. It's just come up ten past seven here in the evening. So I've got a couple of things to do. But over the weekend or whatever, it's all set up and running. I've sent you the link to it, so you can go and look at and it's actually been streaming this show live as well. Okay? But it's early days, but, yeah, just give me a ping, and we can we can get that sorted out.
[03:12:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Cool. Paul? I actually haven't activated Teams yet. So, I I guess I will have to do that. I'll have to
[03:12:45] Unknown:
You're a hard man to get in touch with, aren't you? You know, covered in wires and things. You're a hard man to get in touch with. Well, I'll send it to you on Teams. Teams did.
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I'm hoping that Teams is, is less memory hog ish than Skype is because Skype just sends my computer right for a loop. The only thing worse is Telegram. The only thing worse. So
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Okay. Well, I'll give it a show. Give it a show. Oh, I I just It's worth it. Wanted to
[03:13:15] Unknown:
suggest, a water fast potentially. Done before in my life. I'm up there around your guys' age and, intending to do probably a week or so here in the near future.
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Just on one of the best ways.
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Just water. Good water though. Quality water. Maybe a little bit of support, but, you know, that's that's something you can look into. A lot of people have different opinions on it. However, the more you starve yourself, the more you release, the stem cells out of your bone marrow into the into your body to do healing at the same time. So Mhmm. Something considered.
[03:13:59] Unknown:
Well, I've got good water. I drink distilled water. So the water that we drink here is great. I'll I'll think about that. To it.
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Do you Okay. No. I don't know.
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Okay. I don't know. Minerals are, and that's not good.
[03:14:15] Unknown:
There are different schools of thought. There are different schools of thought on that to say that distilled water is the purest water that you can take, but it's incomplete and it's hungry. And it will it will attempt to chelate minerals out of your bones. So, use a distilled water, but get a good liquid mineral supplement and throw a few drops in there. And I'm thinking that you will see a difference.
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Okay. I'll check that out.
[03:14:47] Unknown:
I've got time to check these things out. Great multi mineral and vitamin all in one that comes in a quart bottle. It's what Wally talks about as being the 90 essentials. You know? I'll get on to that. That would be We'll get on to that. Thanks, man. Place to go for one one one stop shop. So
[03:15:08] Unknown:
I'll get it that. Thanks.
[03:15:10] Unknown:
No. That's great. Thank you. I'm gonna go now. I gotta go. And, might see you tomorrow, Paul, but ping me on Teams or on Telegram if if your computer works.
[03:15:22] Unknown:
Okay. I'll catch you later. Thanks very much for today. I've got some techie stuff to do today, and I've got some, serious paperwork that I have to do today and then then fax off. So, I will I will hook up with you tomorrow.
[03:15:36] Unknown:
Lovely. Look forward to it. Okay. Alright. Ciao. Thank you, Paul. Cheerio. Yeah. Bye for now. Bye bye. Bye.
[03:15:43] Unknown:
Cheerio. Adios and all that. So wow. Radio Ranch Friday edition with Roger Sales, Brent Allen Winters, and Paul English. Absolutely fabulous show. Thank you so much for joining us. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not longer, as evidenced today. For more information on the topics discussed, albeit not the the breadth of topics today, go to the matrixdogs.com. You can find links to Global Voice Radio. You can find links to Eurofunk Radio, links to free conference calls. You can actually join us live on the show and all kinds of other, interesting stuff that you can peruse. Thank you so much for being here. I am going to resume my day doing other things not radio related.
Thanks. Catch you later on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Don't forget about the Sabadeau edition tomorrow morning, 11AM eastern to 1PM. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:17:00] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Hosts
Discussion on Health and Lifestyle
Political Commentary and Global Affairs
Constitutional Law and Titles of Nobility
Historical Context of Common Law
Radio Show and Listener Engagement
Economic Systems and Financial Insights
Personal Stories and Reflections
Cultural and Historical Perspectives
Conclusion and Farewell
