In this episode, the discussion revolves around historical and contemporary issues of governance, taxation, and personal sovereignty. The conversation begins with a reference to Edwin Black's book, "The Transfer Agreement," and transitions into a broader dialogue about historical narratives, including slavery and black slave owners, as well as the significance of historical sites like Secession Hill. The hosts and participants delve into the complexities of historical events and their impact on modern society.
The episode further explores the concept of national sovereignty and personal freedom, with discussions on the implications of tariffs, the role of government, and the power dynamics between citizens and the state. The conversation touches on conspiracy theories, the role of historical figures, and the influence of powerful entities. The participants also discuss practical steps towards personal sovereignty, such as becoming a national and withdrawing from the system, while emphasizing the importance of individual responsibility and community awareness.
That book with Roger was talking about with Edwin Black, the transfer agreement. I don't know if anybody's still on or not.
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There you go. Oh, yeah. We're here. Oh, yeah. There's there's 50 people on here.
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Really? Oh, okay. That book that yeah. That book that he was referencing was, Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement. I read it from cover to cover, and it makes a whole lot of sense. And that was written by a Jew.
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Interesting. But
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And
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it the guy the guy the guy the man's oh, I'm sorry.
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Ain't it funny that you have to get go to the horse's mouth that designed it, and they tell you the story? You get to know what they're doing.
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Yeah. Yeah. But even the even it's, slavery is exposed as well because the black man a black man named Larry Colger wrote the book about black slave owners. And and so that's a that's a, you know, a well suppressed subject matter, especially in the black community. I got some noise in the background, so I I'm gonna pause because I wanna I don't want can you hear me?
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Yeah. We could hear you.
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Oh, okay. Well, that's a great book by Larry Koger. And, but you wanna take us home? Oh, and Carter g Woodson also wrote one as well about black black slavery. Black the blacks that were enslaved were enslaved right here in America to who slave who were slaves at one time, got out of slavery, and then became slave masters themselves. You can find it.
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I could tell you a little bit more about Abbeville from where I grew up. I delivered a green on news every morning. And, days at rain, my mother would take me around the car and throw the papers. So we had, a hill called Secession Hill, and, it was a on the side of a hill. I mean, it was a steep, hill. And, there's two monuments telling the story of what happened on Secession Hill, back in '18, '59, the public, gathered together to vote on succeeding from the nations. Now that Secession Hill was named because they, wrote the document to present to the legislative branches of South Carolina.
So here I am back in this, let's see, sixties, delivering papers in the in the morning. And my mother was carrying me around, and she said, you know, these customers that you're throwing the paper to, they're all black. And I said, yeah. She said, do you know, who they were? And she said, they were professors at the college that they had. They're the ancestors to the college that had a black college back in the eighteen sixties. I had no idea what that was. I was just a kid. Okay? And it it gives me cold chills now telling you this. Because I was on that hill every morning, throwing throwing papers on their on their porch, and they had they they were still there. They were ancestors of the people that was in that, on the in the hill.
And they had a college
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for the black Mhmm. Back then. Nope. What was the name of that hill again? Is it Segregation Hill? What what do you call it? Secession
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Hill? No. Secession. We succeeded from the nation.
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Right. Okay. Oh, okay? And that was that information at?
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Well, the monuments there's two monuments on top of the hill telling the story about how we got together at the bottom of the hill to succeed from the nation. It was a view it was a community decision. Everybody in the community gathered together at the bottom of the hill and voted on succeeding from the nation. And that's where the black professors lived on that hill at that time.
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And what year is this that you were going up there?
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I was delivering the papers back in the 1960.
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In the '60. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Oh, okay.
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It's just a small idea that they had, and they honored the the blacks like they did their own. Is what I'm saying to you?
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Hey, Bruce. What what what? I'm sorry. Hey, Bruce. Are you saying that all those nice black men that lived on that hill, they got to vote for secession too?
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Yep.
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Hallelujah.
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Thank you. They were part of the community. They they had a college for the blacks. They had their own college. I love it. And those were the professors that lived on that hill. But you know, you understand what I mean?
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Hey. This is Tony. I'm I'm sorry. I'm chiming in. But in South Carolina, historically, South Carolina was one of the largest black slave holding states. Like, blacks owned other blacks. That was one of the largest states, South Carolina. The majority of the South Carolina residents there were, that were black, they had they had slaves. They out as much they actually outnumbered white states by far. That's off the line. Can can can anybody hear me? I wonder if And then also oh, go ahead. If they still I wonder if they still outnumber the whites in South Carolina. Do you know? Oh, I'm not sure. But I do know that also when William was talking earlier, about, Larry Koger writing about black slave masters. There was also I don't know how many of you guys also heard of Carter g Wilson.
Now Carter g Wilson put out a a little small pamphlet. He was a black man, and he put out a small book, and he did a book on the, the 1830 census. And this is in 1830, and this was showing all of the, the black slave owners, that were, you know, in the antebellum South and what would be considered the North as well. Well, I don't know. Virginia. Up in Maryland and Virginia in that area. It was it was an awful lot of black slave owners, and this was according to the 1830 census.
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It sounds like someone's doing dishes. Record.
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Yes.
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The black slave owners were there's two biggest plantations in South Carolina. One was in Orangeburg, which the black colleges there, state college. And, Buford, next to the coast, he owned slaves. He raised he he had, women get pregnant and sold the babies. And they were the two biggest, plantations in South Carolina.
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Were they were they black owned?
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Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They sold more slaves than any white white man couldn't afford slaves.
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Well, that's I I well Bruce Bruce, do you remember those, slave owners' names
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in in Orangeburg or in the View View? No. I don't know their names. I don't know their names. I I have the book. I have the book. If you give me a day or two once we get back from the show, maybe tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, I'll I'll have the names because he he does the author does list the names. Because when you were a slave owner, you know, considered a freedman, you you actually had a vote. I think somebody was saying that earlier that when when somebody asked if they they had they had an opportunity to vote.
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Okay then.
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Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
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Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. Can anybody hear me? Can anybody hear me? Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. I think Will was trying to get in and say something. He I don't think they can hear me. He said not caught it out of you.
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Says his line is muted a second. I'll call back to you. Well, I got to go, guys. Enjoyed the show, and,
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thanks for the input. Love all of you. Yes. Yes. Okay, Sketch. Thank you, Keith.
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Can you hear me now? Okay.
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No. Yes. Okay.
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You can't hear me? I had to call back in. I don't know if my line was muted. Or so I think I inadvertently got it muted. Maybe when No. They just muted gone. They muted all everybody's phone
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one time. Oh. That's what's happening. Yeah. Probably. I got muted too. I'm gone. Oh, okay.
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Bruce, this is Jay Grant. Uh-huh. Sir, were you the gentleman one day, maybe over a year ago, that suggested to me I was trying to marry my wife. Okay? And you suggested to me why I I expressed the frustration here in Colorado if you don't have a marriage certificate. If you're if you file it late, then they then they put an extra charge on the top of the the filing fee to, you you know, to be married. And and and that just irritated me like a burr in the saddle. So I believe you may have suggested and said, you know what? Why why go on a contract with man? And you mentioned about your girlfriend that you you didn't do that. You just did it before God.
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Are are you the gentleman that did that? No. No. I I didn't do that. I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. Alright. Thank you so much.
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Yeah. Thank you so much, Bruce. Oh, yeah. So what what whatever happened? What was the outcome of this marriage that you somebody told you to do something? Did you do it? What happened?
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We have a we have a deck in our backyard, invited our friends over. We said, brought God into our marriage. He said our vows to each other. I downloaded some forms. It's a marriage certificate. And, she had it signed by the witnesses that we had. And it was just a nice, loving situation over there. So, and I had called the clerk before we picked the clerk a quarter. And I said, so why do people have to get married? So what what was salient that they said to me was, well, you know, in case there's property or children. Okay? So that they can then step in and decide what's gonna happen. Okay?
And I I did all my my my national papers in November of twenty three. It's not like I know anything. I really don't. But, that's what we did. And I felt very liberated about that because I'm sick of going into contract with man and then have them maybe turn around with lawyers and and, you know, disintegrate, dissolve, or or, destroy the things that we've gained with our marriage. So I don't wanna do any of that. My wife is willing to have done that. We did that.
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I don't need Well, let me let me ask you. Let let me ask you. Did you, when you did this, ceremony, did you do a power of attorney for the both of you guys? So, like, you have power of attorney over her and she has power of attorney over you just in case if things ever happen?
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No. No. Again, I Okay. I get You might want to.
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You might want to. You might or you might wanna consider that. You might wanna consider doing a power of attorney over her and then have that same form that has power for her to have power of attorney over you. And then you just go in and put it on the record, at your clerk. So that way, if, say, things ever happened with insurance or whatever have you, you have explicit power of attorney. And then if someone says, well, is that your wife? And you say, yes. That's my wife. And then but they say, well, do you have a master's or whatever the case is, And you can just give him the power of attorney at that point, and that'll shut him up. Definitely.
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I did it for years. I'll strongly consider that. Thank you very much for that idea. I'll I'll check it out. Yes, sir. I mean, I can present him with the marriage certificate that we did. Okay?
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That that yeah. But the the ultimate killer right there would be the power of attorney. Okay. Because of the leak the the legalities of everything, they'll say, well, you know, sir, blah blah. But then once you have it, on the record public record, power of attorney of you, she has power of attorney of you, and you have it over her, and it's stamped. At that point, any insurance or anybody else that thinks they have a say so don't have a say so. Because that that stops the argument right then and there. So we will present the,
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power of attorney, lawyer, with all of our possessions written down on that account?
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Yes, sir. That would be a wise move.
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What do you think the cost of that might be? The
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well, if you want if you want a lawyer to do it, I don't know. You can do it. I had some forms that I did it myself. I just took it down and did it myself. I mean, there was a fee I had to pay to put it on the record at clerk, but other than that, I mean, I didn't have a attorney to look for me. I just Did you elect an attorney to
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I'm sorry? You and I and did you elect an attorney to represent you then?
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No.
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Okay. No. I it it was just what I what I what all I'm saying is that there were some forms. I filled out the forms and and then I gave myself power of attorney over and and vice versa. And then what I did was I went and got it notarized at Yeah. At the bank or whatever. Sure. And then once I got it notarized, I went sit down to the clerk of the court in my particular county where I lived at, and I put it on the record.
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Alright. I'm gonna check that I'm gonna check that out because when you said power of attorney, I thought I had to have one to represent.
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No, sir. Now how I know that works how I know that works is because once upon a time, I got a ticket or a speeding ticket. And I went down to the court, you know, how you have to go down and you have to and I represented her. Or I think she got a speeding ticket or something, and I went down there and fought on her behalf. Now the the, who who was the guy? He's not a he's not a actual judge. He's just a hearing officer. No. He's not a man he's just a hearing officer. And the hearing and I told when they called my wife's name, I stood up and said, I represent the person you're talking about.
And they said, well, sir, you can't do it. And I said, I absolutely can. I have power of attorney over here. And he he looked over to the side to the guy, I guess, Robert, is the court reporter, and then they had to go and look at records. And they said, okay, sir. How how you know? Well and and we proceed. Okay. So that's how I know it works.
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Okay. Well, thank you so much. I'm gonna look into that, sir. And, Yes, sir. I I think you know exactly why I did what we did because I'm sick of contracting with me.
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Yes, sir. Okay. I absolutely do. And here's one bit here's another tidbit of information. I'm not gonna go too deep into it, but then when we did the, when we did the, the marriage the marriage license, you know, when guys go down and get the marriage license real quick and then say, oh, we just did it up under our, we we did it up under our, our business names. So, I mean, it did it really didn't mean oh, never mind who we just did it up on our business names. So and we instead of when they asked for Social Security when they asked for a Social Security number I just gave him, we gave him our EIN numbers.
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Yes.
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But we did but we did the real thing that, you you know, it's the power of attorney and it you know, all of the the the oath and the all of that thing. There's a contract between me and my wife. I also have a contract. So not only do I have a power of attorney, but we also have the the contract.
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And what what might you say in your contract, sir?
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I haven't saved in my Dropbox. I I actually have to go.
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What might you I'm sorry?
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What might you what might you include
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about that in your contract? You know that
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doesn't happen I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time trying to understand.
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Oh, yeah. I'm just wondering what you put in your contract. What words did you put? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
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Man, I put some stuff, and it was biblical. It was some biblical things according to the Bible, and and in my contract, with her and everything. But it was it stems from the Bible. Put it like that. Now going word for word verbatim, I couldn't tell you. I have to go back to my Dropbox file and look at it because it's been seven years. I'm sorry. My my memory is not that good. But, yeah, I will have to go back into my Dropbox files and look at my contract.
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But it I mean, it has, like, okay, in the presence of that, and then you talk about possessions and intentions.
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Yes. Oh. Yes.
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Yeah.
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Well, that gives me a good Yeah. We don't we don't and and I also recognize that, like I say in the contract that we don't recognize recognize man being the, you know, we we our union is formed in front of God and not in front of me. So there's that little bit of verbiage in there and all that stuff.
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I like that a lot. I like that a lot. I'm gonna go to work on that, and thank you for your intervention here with that. I appreciate the education.
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Hey. No problem. That's why I'm here. I'm here to help.
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Alright. Bye bye.
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Can I be heard? Hello?
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah.
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Who am I speaking with? Who is this just talking about? The what they did with their marriage contract and all? This this is Tony. Tony, this is Bob down in The Philippines.
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How you doing, Bob? I'm doing well.
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Just some, observations. Depending on how you word that and file it with people who have no jurisdiction over you, it could and I'm only I'm only postulating. It could be taken as not noticing them, but rather asking their permission. And if it's not expressly stated as such, in fact, stating in the papers that you are distant from them, you're at arm's length. You're only doing this as a notice. You're not asking for their permission. You're just noticing them because they have nothing to do with your marriage. They may think they do, but in common law, if you were doing it that way, Historically, it was recorded in the family bible, and I would suggest, of course, getting some certified copies because if your bible burns up or something like that in a house fire, you've still got evidence.
So that's all I was going to add is just Yes, sir. Be sure be sure you're not asking permission. You don't need their permission. Oh, yeah. You are telling them that you are in this position, and they don't have any control, so stay away.
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Yes, sir. And that I'm I'm sorry. I'm glad you did bring that up because I did forget to, mention that to, the prior caller there is that when I turned that paperwork in, there were two funds. It was a fund for me, and it was a fund for her given, you you know, saying who we were. That was only to notice them. So when I put it on the record, if I had to make some type of, argument or anything like that, then it's on the record to say this is what it is. I didn't go in there and ask for permission at no point. I went in there letting them know this is what it is.
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So, yeah, thank you for that. Good good good to know. I just wanted to make sure that was out there because I didn't catch that if it was said. I apologize.
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Yes, sir. No no problem. Thank you. I I I should have pointed that out to him to make sure that he notices them, not to, you know, ask for permission, but to let them know.
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When, when people or a people have been on their knees so long, they forget that they don't have to ask permission to stand up.
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Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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I think Roger said he had exchanged my or put something in our emails or whether it was you or or William. I'm not sure, but, I hadn't even looked at my email for a day or two. So I'll see if I can catch that near
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sometime soon. Hey. Well, thank you. I I appreciate that, you know, for for saying that because that was something that I should have mentioned to the guy. You always wanna make sure that you you putting them on notice about something. Not to ask for permission because then they assume that they ask for permission. I mean, they assume that you're asking for permission, especially if you come in the form of asking. If you come in the form of humble, I guess, is another way to put it in there assuming. They're gonna always tell you no. So, yeah, we always gotta make sure that we've noticed them.
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Just like your servitude, it's a presumption. They're gonna presume it because 99.99% of everybody else not only is in that condition, they like it.
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Right. Right. And that that was something that, me, Will, and Brent had gotten into yesterday. We was talking about, the government. It's it's something that we create, but a lot of us sit back and we're very content with it. And one of the things that, was said a long time ago by one of the the fathers, I don't know if he was a founding father, but, he said that all it takes for evil to, win is for good men to do nothing. It was Thomas Jefferson. So Thomas Jefferson had made that quote. And so that's what a lot of us do today. It's just we just sit around and do nothing, and we we sit back and we kinda mentally masturbate. That's a kind of a term that we've been saying in the around, you know, a few years. We just mentally masturbate. We talk about coulda, woulda, shoulda, but we have a stewardship covenant, you know, to to take care of this planet, to take care of each other, and take care you know, and speak out about injustices, And, and, and, evil what is it? A evil evil people will never enjoy a righteous government.
So that's something that we're not instilling in our children, but we have to instill that. So then that way, they can force burning. Because if we don't, then they just consent. You know, the government is gonna ask you, well, you know, who are you? And then if we don't say nothing, we acquiesce. And and when we acquiesce, then they assume that they got the power. And we have to take the power back from them by letting them know you don't have the power by noticing them to say you don't have the power. And, of course, they're going to come after you. And that was some one of the things that, we were saying early on when I first joined this program is that they are going to come after you. And when they do, you just have to be able to stand on it.
So
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Robbie. Hey, Robbie. Are you still on here? Welcome. Welcome to, Tony's and William's friends. Welcome to Rogers Radio Ranch. I'm still, trying to talk to
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I'm I'm here. Just nobody's talking, so I'm just kinda muted out and chiming in whenever somebody talks.
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Right on. I was just, wondering if Robbie, who put in that, video with John Rich, I wanted to ask her a question about that. But, I'll talk to her later. Bye for now.
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For those of you that aren't country music fans or don't know, he is the rich of the country duo, Big and Rich. In fact, I can't remember what the other guy's name is, but John Rich is actually rather small, and the other fella is actually quite large. They make a nice, mutton, Jeff kind of thing, so they call them big and rich. You know, just kind of a cute play on words. But, yeah, they've been around for twenty, twenty five, thirty years. I don't know. A long time back in the nineties, I think they got started. And I've seen him on various podcasts and speeches, and, I don't know if he's fully he's not fully aware of what we're talking about, but he's very, very, ripe, let's say, for the message.
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So to that gentleman that was talking about marriage, this is Jerry Garcia in Carl Baden, New Mexico. Why did God gave the covenant to who? And and when that who was kicked out, why did God place that sheriff with a flaming sword in front of the gate? Gary Garcia, we can barely hear you.
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Thank you.
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Okay. I was just asking a question of that gentleman was talking about marriage, getting a marriage license and recording your instead of getting married, recording your message on the in in the Bible and then have it before. My question was, who did God give the covenant from the garden? And the other question was, when that who was kicked out of the garden, why did God place a flaming, angel, cherub, in front of the gate with a flaming sword?
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Can't hear you, Jerry.
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It it's good question, though, Jerry. We could hear him a little bit.
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Yeah. Okay. Hey. Well
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This is William. I do got a question, but go ahead. Oh, can you hear me now? I I can hear you, but I I got a question. But I wanna wait. I know you you had something, I think.
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Well, my question was to you is, who did God you were talking about recording getting married and then having a power of attorney over over your spouse? Or the only way you can have power of attorney over your spouse is that we have a
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But this is more than the right one.
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That's not that's not true, sir. That's not true. That's why I made it anyway,
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and my other my question was, in the garden, who did God God give the covenant to? And then when that who was kicked out of the garden, why did God place the cherub in front of the gate with a flaming sword? So who married Adam and Eve?
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Well, first of all, they were never married. I mean, I I didn't I didn't read in Genesis where it talks about that they had a holy matrimony in the service. But for all intents and purposes, I guess you could say God, Mary, Adam, Eve.
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Okay. Hey, Jerry Garcia. Are you are you wanting to know an answer, or are you trying to make a point?
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Well, I wasn't really trying to make a point. I was just asking a question to marriage.
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Okay. We go by we go by common law marriage,
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which supposedly all or or country was established under common law. And how far back does that common law go? Well, apparently, that common law has to go all the way back to the beginning where God gave man the law and it becoming the common law. So if if God gave man the common law through marriage, when we get married, we get married under the common law and not by some man made, applicable law. And my question was, when we get married, we get married under the man's law or who
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Your own law.
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Hello? Is anybody talking?
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You know, the question was, are you getting married under god's law or man's law? Is was his question. Oh, Tony. Go ahead, Tony.
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No. You're getting married up under god's law, your creator, and you're making a promise to each other, not to another man per se, like, up under public policy. You're doing it up under god's law. But I gotta notice you. I gotta let the and so when I was talking about, a power of attorney, there's legalities. If if I have life insurance or something like that, and I designate my spouse, my wife, to have the the insurance company, they can only operate up under certain legalities. So why why would I play with $400,000 because I don't have a power of attorney? But if I have a if I had a power of attorney, I could just simply put it in on the court so that way it doesn't become a legality issue because some states, most states, they don't recognize common law. So if if my spouse had a job and they had 400,000 life insurance policy and god forbid something happened to them, and I may I may have a problem getting the $400,000 that they left behind because of some some some, you know, some little game that I wanna play about, common law. Well, now now we got a problem. Now we got a real problem. So I would rather prefer to have power over attorney.
I'm sorry. Power of attorney versus, you know, and and put it in on the court so the court recognizes it, and it's it's been notarized. And so that way, there's no problem, no issue about it. When when when the insurance company wants to see that, marriage certificate, I can present them a marriage certificate that we made, and then I can also present them with the power of attorney. Then, you know, copies of the power of attorney that were put into the clerk clerk of court. But I'm doing it in front of God. I'm not doing it in front of man. I'm just letting them know, and I'm also letting them know that, hey. I'm doing this and it's in front of God, but I'm letting you know that, hey. I got power of attorney. That's all you guys get from me. You guys get power of you you guys get a notice to saying I have power of attorney over my wife, not you.
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Thank you, Tony. May I this is lady Linda Louise. I just wanted to, share something. Number one, we do power of authority. A chancery court judge from Tennessee, told, us that power of authority is the better word for we nationals because, attorneys are under that legalese. And authority means jurisdiction, and it's the same acronym POA. So that's number one. And, number two, there's a difference between being wedded and being married. Married is their word. It's their legal word, marriage. So the better word would be, wedding, wedded.
And, in the word of God, whenever you see, he knew her or he was betrothed to her, that the met wedding started at the betrothal. So it's all spiritual. It's all a heart issue, and it's all biblical. And the other, thing that I would recommend is, you can put it in the notice section of your newspaper, and then you can get an affidavit of publication. And that is one excellent way to notice, the world at large in that methodology. And that's all I have to share at this time, and I yield.
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Who is this again? Who is this that was just speaking?
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Lady Linda Louise from Connecticut. You're welcome, Tony.
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Okay. This is William. That was that was William that was asking the question, though.
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Oh, forgive me.
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Yeah. I know y'all were talking about the marriage thing. I wanted to, ask a different question, but I didn't want to take us off of subject and let if anybody else had a comment or statement or a question on the, the wedding quest. Would you say do we use the word where where does the post get married or something like that?
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Yes.
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Okay. Yeah. I didn't wanna do so I didn't wanna take it by anybody off of subject. So would it was that is that subject finished?
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Far as I know. You have the floor. I yield. Okay.
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Okay. Okay. So, the tariffs, can anybody give give some clarity on, the tariff situation now and from a historical perspective as well? Anybody on here familiar with that? What Trump is doing, which I'm in agreement with on the tariffs, but I need more clarity, especially from a a national perspective, I guess you would say.
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I think it's gonna be turbulent early on.
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Would this was this Paul, Larry?
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Yeah. This is Paul. Don't worry about it. We white folk all sound alike.
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Shut up. You you gotta Somebody somebody say more on this therapy. I I don't know if I get props. It's gonna get props, but somebody give me some clarity. I gotta put a Shut up. Walk axe in. You'll find out.
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Oh, weird. Yeah. I think I think it's gonna be turbulent early on because the increased cost of import is going to, cause an increase in prices to the consumer. It's probably gonna be better once manufacturing in this country ramps up and we're importing less from other countries. But then when we're importing less from other countries, the tariffs are going to be less money, so the government is going to be looking for, ways to fund their shit again. So I just think it's if we can get to the point where, the tariffs equal out, and, income tax still stays away and isn't replaced by a stupid sales tax or some shit.
I'm thinking it'll be it'll be okay, but it is definitely gonna be turbulent, in the early on. William.
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Yes.
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Thank you, Paul. Alright. This is Lance from Jacksonville. Here's here's some boys. Hey. Hey. Alright. So you're asking about tariffs.
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Yeah. So here's here's some facts for you, and you could just kinda put them in the back of your mind and ponder them. I got two facts. Well, let me just say this. Let me say this. Make sure, like like, the lady just intervene and and and define things from a national perspective. Do it do it from that perspective, okay, with regarding the tariffs if if you can.
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Go ahead. Well, let no. Well, it's not really that. It's just I mean, it's just a fact because the this is from the national perspective because the, the federal citizenship did not exist, during the time that these facts took place. So keep that in mind too. Alright. So from the from the founding of our country until 1913, there was no income tax. There was a temporary income tax during the civil war, but that was ruled unconstitutional. And the second fact is from the founding of our country until 1913, '90 '5 percent of the federal government was funded by tariffs at a rate of about 20% average.
So that's why Trump is pushing for tariffs because they work, and that's what took care of all of the federal government costs there you know, during that time period that I just that I just stated.
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Okay. Okay. I'm following you. I I just trying to unmute to respond. Okay. Go go ahead. I'm listening.
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Well, no. That's it. The those are the two Okay. Those are the two, the two facts. During that time, there's two major industrial revolutions Yeah. Between 1750 and 1850. No income tax, only tariffs from 1850 to 1913, until the sixteenth amendment. So that's all I have for you. Just something to keep in mind.
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Now do you have a reference on that? Or is there is there any source I could, refer to on that on on the tariff thing that you had just mentioned on on what you had just said?
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Right. I my reference, my source is you ever hear of, an attorney named Mark Levin?
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Yes.
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Oh, he he's he's to fill in for for Rush Limbaugh.
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And, he he, now. Right?
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I he's got his own program, but, he's got a couple of very interesting videos out about the whole tariff thing. And, I mean, he's just he's on fire about, you know, how Trump is just really causing all this turmoil. No one has ever seen what Trump has been doing, you know, in in over a hundred years. This is unprecedented. So Right. Very interesting times we're living in.
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It is. It is. Yeah. Okay. Somebody somebody else?
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It's Murr. Hey, Murr. Hey, Murr. Hey. This is very fluid right now. You're seeing countries wanting to negotiate and possibly drop their tariffs, so we won't have tariffs on them. So this is kinda fluid right now, which is a good thing. And the quote What did you Go ahead. Yeah. The quote that you I don't know if it was you someone else gave because you all sound alike. Hello? Sorry.
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No problem. I said the same thing about you also.
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I'm just joking. Ordinary.
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Don't have any
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I'm Paul and Larry. Yeah. But, yeah, that was Edmund Burke who said, you know, evil can, succeed if, good men do nothing. Yep. That was from him.
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Oh, oh, but tyranny but but the the but the tie the title on the I mean, the, phrase tyranny, for all it takes for tyranny to prevail is for good men to do nothing. That was Thomas Jefferson, I thought.
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Oh, possibly. But the,
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quote about evil, that that's Burke. Yeah. And he should've said wicked because that pastor Samuel pastor Samuel what it I forget his last name, but pastor Samuel said, wicked people only have a wicked government. That's what Tony was trying to trying to, say, but he he he messed it all up. I think but we we read that in, Michael Hoffman's book, Usurine and Christianism. They're saying that that's a great book too, by the way, Usurine and Christianism by Michael Hoffman.
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Yeah. You need your thesaurus with him. Right? Yeah. See? Oh, yeah.
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That's a good that's a good source. But and so anybody else on it, there's tariffs? Because you know it's the first country that came over here, that that, went to zero out the tariffs because we imposed on them. Well, do you anybody know the first country that ran over here? Yeah. That Trump invited open up his open arms?
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You noticed they canceled the press conference too.
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Yeah. I noticed that. I know Carl was waiting on the press conference.
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Yeah. I think, there's there's other things afoot. And, interestingly too, you can read that, Netanyahu, when he travels around, he had to go, like, 400 kilometers out of his way to avoid countries that if he had to emergency land, they would arrest him. Yeah. They would arrest him. ICC.
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Yep. International Criminal Court. Yeah. Yeah. He was the first one over here because we imposed the tax. Trump I I don't I don't like Trump's policy towards e, Israel, but he does get bold at times with these people. And I don't think that y'all particularly cares for him.
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Yeah. I mean, they you know, it's only 17%. You know? But they Yeah. Yeah. You look at the billions they get. Right. So, you know, some it it's interesting. It's
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interesting to talk to people about it. Yeah. Tony Tony had said something earlier. What would you say, Tony, about, when when he said to reduce the tariffs or something and Tony said, could we pay you billions of dollars anywhere a year just with our tax dollars or whatever that we give to Israel? Tony has said something earlier that kinda resonated with me. I can't remember exactly what it was on Tony. I think
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I think, Netanyahu, he wanted to, come and, you know, try to get the tariffs, you know, and this and then the third. And then he wanted to kinda put leverage on Trump. But Trump told him, you know, listen. We give we give you guys billions of dollars. So and he still didn't budge on that. He was like, yeah. We give you billions of dollars, so no. The tariffs are gonna stay in place.
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And clearly, he wasn't invited. Clearly, he wasn't invited. He just showed up. Right?
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He he wasn't invited. But his his body language his body language kinda said it all. I mean, when he does it's like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. This this ain't how it's supposed to go.
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Right. Right. And we've got the a higher authority. Of course, we've got God over everything, but we've got Satan and the antichrist calling the shots. You know? So because we're all human beings and wicked, but, Netanyahu, he's got prostate trouble and everything else. So, you know, his time is limited. And you see him reading a lot of times, and he'll be shaking.
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You know? Yeah. Didn't he didn't he is that in Yahoo? Did he change his name? What is it something else? And then he changes his name. Yeah. He told us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
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but I just say that my Trump, I know some people on this phone or some people on the line that Trump haters. But I I mean, I'm not particularly for either party, but I would, at this time and juncture, I do favor a lot of what Trump is doing. I'm not all on the bandwagon of Trump, but definitely, I agree with a lot that he's doing. You know, and I don't know what other people are thinking on that, but I I do. Yeah. I'm a I'm a black guy. So, you know, most of us are, born Democratic, just suck it up to the Democratic Party with no knowledge of what's going on at all. But I definitely left that camp a long time ago. And but I do like Trump. Trump brought me back into politics to a certain degree degree.
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Hey. This is Larry. Did Tony say who did Tony say wanted Budge? And we we The United States gives them billions of dollars a year. Who won't budge?
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No. Trump Trump said Trump said we give you guys billions of dollars because because Netanyahu Netanyahu came over, and they he was one of the things he wanted to do was he wanted to, get Trump to kinda back down off of this terrorist thing. And Trump didn't do it. And he politely reminded him. He's like, we give you guys billions of dollars. And then you know how they normally do the press conference after, you know, a dignitary or whatever comes over. They canceled the the the, press conference. They quietly canceled it because I think Netanyahu is kinda in its feelings a little bit. But that's just me saying that. When when you use the pronoun they, they gave
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them, trillions of dollars. Who's the one giving the dollars? Netanyahu to the to The United States or the other way around?
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The other way well, I Tony, I I get after that. The other way around is us giving them billions of dollars, our tax dollars. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I'm just saying it in the two give you guys. Trump said we give you guys billions of dollars.
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Okay. So, I heard in the news the other day. I told Roger this on the show, I think two days ago, that 50 countries capitulated. 70 now. 70. It's up to 70 now. And one of those countries was if you remember I don't know if you were listening. I said Argentina, and then I learned later because that's what, you know, Roger initially went to Argentina, and so he had some comments about that because now he's in Ecuador. But then I later learned, after I made that comment on the show that, Israel capitulated to to Trump's tariffs. Are you guys aware of that?
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Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That that that's why we were saying that's that's why Will was saying he was one of the first people over here to try to make a move, you you know, and and do what he's saying.
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But but but so so when when Trump imposed the tariffs, Netanyahu immediately said, oh, we're gonna zero it out. And then Trump said, well, we keep it our we keep it our ours at 27 or 17%. I don't care if you zeroed if you was out or not. So I I if I'm correct, I appreciate Trump doing that, not backing down. But that's why Netanyahu is over there quicker than a heartbeat because he's trying to get, I think, get us to zeroed out on on on them as well, on on on Israel. But Trump so far has held his ground, I believe. Now I haven't seen the news today yet, and somebody's right here if I'm wrong.
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And in addition to that, Netanyahu is, well, Trump said right in Netanyahu's face when they were sitting there that they started talks with Iran. We're starting peace talks. Not Israel, The US. We're starting peace talks with Iran. Netanyahu looked very uncomfortable, and he was like, wait a minute. You you know, no. This ain't supposed to happen because what we're supposed to do is we're supposed to go in and deep do what we did to Libya. And, Trump, you know, kept his course by saying, no, we're we started talks peace talks with Irene. So I think this is upsetting to Netanyahu.
I I I and and then when he tried to come in and, you know, on the back page of the terrorists, Trump was like, no. Like Will said, they would you can zero yours out, but we're gonna keep ours right where it is. Oh, by the way, we pay you guys billions of dollars every year. So you got a nice deal. And Netanyahu didn't really say anything, except for yes. Yes. You do. Yep. Thank you for giving us the money.
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Trump's gotta be real careful when he dealing with these people, though. These people do not play. So we gotta we gotta have his back because, he's representing us for the most part. And, we definitely I mean, we wanna take it further than what Trump is doing, but Trump's only one person, and he can only go so far. We've definitely gotta do what we can to make sure that a lot of this stuff come to fruition. I like getting out of NATO. We need to get out of both Ukraine war and the and the Middle East Wars. We need to get out of those two wars.
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Right. A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to the press secretary, and she confirmed that Trump's policy is peace through strength. So it it doesn't surprise me that they're trying to talk peace with these countries.
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Yeah. That that he's echoing Reagan's, position, I believe, with that with, based on peace through strength. I think that was a Reagan,
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comment or statement at one time. Right. And he wants to get Trump wants to get back to, you know, creating an industrial revolution in United States because Yeah. We don't hardly manufacture anything here. Everything is manufactured in other countries and, like even our ships for our navy and everything. He wants to get back to creating all these jobs here. And, another thing I learned is, in a lot of different, you know, authorities on these subjects are saying that and I think even Roger confirmed this several times on the show that, we our nation was the wealthiest during the early days, like, during those time periods that I just that I just quoted.
You know, they were the ones understand.
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What were the time periods again that you said?
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The well, it was during the two industrial revolutions. Okay. That's when that that's when our that's when our country was being sustained almost exclusively by tariffs. So from the founding until 1913, there was no income tax. There was a temporary income tax during the civil war, and then so the first the first industrial revolution ran from 1750 to, 1850, and then the second industrial revolution from 1850 to 1913. And, you know, 95% of the federal government was funded by tariffs. No income taxes whatsoever. So that's just, those are some startling statistics.
And Trump realized all this. And so he definitely has some, some good advisers in his cabinet that are pointing all this out because, you know, no man is gonna know all all this information. That's why they hire advisers. And so, you know, they're looking at all this, you know, history and they're saying, look at, we are the wealthiest when we were manufacturing everything and we were imposing tariffs on all the countries. And so that's why Trump adopted that agenda. Just my opinion.
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Yeah. And, matter of fact, that income tax, I got a question on that income tax because, yeah, it wasn't Paul. I think it was the first one that, created that concept of the income tax. I think that was chapter 12 of the Red Republican by Walter Kennedy. The Red Republicans, and Lincoln's marched this, in the civil civil war. And on on let me see if I can find that right quick. I thought that that stayed in place, though. I didn't think the ankle tax was supposed to only been placed on us in a wartime situation or some type some type of crisis and just to be lifted thereafter.
But in chapter 12,
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he got Tennessee. I think it was Tennessee. Tennessee revolted or they they they woulda revolted or woulda had the people, but, Laken's, they were so ruthless. They just overlooked Tennessee or something like that. They didn't even count Tennessee or something to that effect. And it was, what do you call it when it was it was, it was not really constitutional at that point. They just they just kinda overrode Tennessee.
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Here it is. Let let me just read it. So I have I have chapter 14 just real quick. Let me just read this. Because when you brought that up, Paul, about the, the income tax, it wasn't pulled during the civil war. It says here, the communist manifesto called for a heavy now remember, we're talking about, Karl Marx communicating with, Lincoln prior to him becoming president. Okay? And, shortly after the 1848 is with with the, revolution, the Marxist communist revolutions in, Europe. So the communist manifesto called for a heavy progressive graduated income tax not to be outdone by their Marxist compatriots.
The Lincoln administration gave, America the Internal Revenue Service. I'm sorry. Lincoln the Lincoln administration gave America the Internal Revenue Service and soon began taxing everyone from soup to nuts. Theodore Burton in his book, John Sherman in Fergus. The first comprehensive Internal Revenue Act became law July first of eighteen sixty two with the fervor of the twenty first century IRS, the civil war federal tax man civil war, quote, unquote, federal tax man levy taxes upon, thereto for untaxed items such as professional license, licenses, I'm sorry, for many for many occupations, luxury items, and distilling, this this this distilling industry.
Y'all gotta excuse me because I'm driving here too. And and a divided tax was placed. This coupled with the direct tax on income made this act the most expensive tax legislation ever to pass, since congress began, the republic. Oh, somebody's calling me. Where's my phone in? Oh, okay. Oh, that I thought that I thought that was you, Tony. So but and and then it said here, apparently, the tax sheet did not provide the government with enough tax. Therefore, the following year, the Lincoln administration fine tuned its revenue enhancement program so that it performed better. In the following year, the federal receipts from the new and enhanced tax system yielded the government the expected income.
But I what I what I was trying to get to, I I was when when did that actually end? And I don't know if that actually ended, though. Because you said you said, that it ended and then was reasserted or reimplemented back in in 1913. But I thought that, Lincoln just, nobody complained, so they just kept taxing the people, and then they further legalized, I guess, in 1913. But I don't see it. So I that's what I was really trying to if I'll read a little further here and and see if I can find it, but I thought that that's it was never lifted. Yeah.
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Yeah. Like I said, my source is Mark Levin, and, it'd probably take a little bit more research to find out where he's getting that from. But, according to him, he's a he he, he he's obviously very intelligent when it comes to to the constitution. So Well, either He said it was ruled unconstitutional. The first income tax under Lincoln. So And Anyway, I guess it takes a little bit more research.
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Yeah. But Mark Levica, he does if you're talking we're talking about the same one. He did a show on Fox on Saturday and Sunday nights.
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He got a show on Fox. Do you remember Rush Limbaugh? Yeah. I remember Rush Limbaugh. Yeah. Mark Levin used to fill in for him too.
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Yeah. And did yeah. And and Mark Levin is high strung just like Rush was. So this this guy this has to be the same Mark Levin.
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Yeah. It it has to be. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
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Because the other show on Fox right now comes on it's Saturday, Sunday, Saturday, and Sunday nights in the evening around eight or seven or eight between seven and 9PM. I've got it recorded so I can go back and listen to it. But he probably he probably adding a lot of insight on these this current day tariffs situation if you watch the show. So I I gotta be all recorded, so I'll go back and review some of the show. And another thing is I think Mark Levin, I think I was reading, the other day
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that he was the first to win a big case against the IRS. What he what he did was, he they they were accusing the IRS of doing tax audits on Republicans way back when. And, so he went in there, and he did a FOIA request to get all this information from the IRS. Well, they they stalled that for, like, two years, and then he finally got a ruling that he was in the right to get that information. And, but the IRS did not wanna give it to him. So pretty interesting case if you look it up,
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and read about it. Uh-oh. Wait a minute. I went out and went back in. Could you could you say that again, please? I went my my phone somehow out of it. It went out and went back in. I heard you. Mark, Mark, did you not hear? The beginning near to near the beginning and the end. So
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you just Well, what I'm saying is Mark Levin, a good number of years ago, filed a lawsuit against the IRS because Oh, yeah. Yeah. It it the the facts appeared like the IRS was doing audits on Republican conservative candidates and their businesses and, and so he went in there to do a foyer request and they would not give him the information and this went on he he took him to court and this went on for, like, two years and he finally got a ruling and he won the case. That was a big case. So I'm sure if you just do a little bit of googling, you could you could, you know, Mark Levin and court case, you know, IRS, it should come up.
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Oh, okay. Okay. I will. I will. I will. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Just reading up just sitting here reading too, trying to get this. I'm reading this. This is a I'm telling you, if if nobody had the you you you really are interested in the civil war and Lincoln's I never knew that Lincoln corresponded with Marx until Brent Brent brought it up yesterday. I just happened to been reading this book. And when Brent said, when did the first when was communism, I think, first introduced this country or whatever practice in this country? And I said, Tony had said, I think I said, Tony gave a time frame, and then I said, no. I think it was more like the civil war, and Brent said, yeah. You're right.
And this book is right on target with that, but but it was instituted before the civil war because Lincoln was communicating with the 40 eighters before the civil war.
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No. I said I said I I actually said after antebellum, which means after
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The one antebellum before the war. Yeah. After the civil war. Okay. That's what what yeah. I know. One one way there, then he he had agreed with me, and I said, okay. But, this the the chapter 14, as I kept saying, chapter twelve, twenty is chapter 14, but after what chapter you wanted me to jump up to, remember?
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And, we have a part of the I see it. I see it Lincoln with a MF.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So and that's what blew me away when I started reading about the income tax because I never associated with Lincoln and a income tax. But now getting more clarity to to the communist manifesto implemented by Ingalls and Marx. You can see that that that was part of the communist manifesto. The planks of the communist manifesto was the, and the implementation of an income tax and to create establishment of a central bank, a graduating income tax that is, and establishment of a central bank. And we so G. Edward Griffin would be right when he says, and it could be just mimicking Eustace Mullins.
But he said that this con this is a communist country masquerading as a as a capitalist country. I don't know if anybody read that in The Creature from Jericho Island, but Gia Wood Griffin did make that statement. And it read and and it and it does make sense to me. This is we're we're talking this country just like we wanna accuse Russia and South North Korea and China being, we're just masquerading at the campus country. But if you look at the communist manifesto or even the protocols and learn the elders of Zion, you will see that our society mimics all of those, the stages or the platforms that, of of total control and centralization control.
And I think it began with the Federalists. I think the Federalists actually were the first communist in this country, Brent. And the Anti Federalists were going against them. And I don't when I talk about the Anti Federalists, I'm not talking about Thomas Jefferson. He was more of a spokesperson, and he didn't wanna go all the way with it. It was Thomas Paine and Patrick Henry with with the with some of the die hard, anti federalists that wanted Lincoln to go up, wanted, Jefferson to go further in his, rebuke of the federalists. You know, Thomas can chime in.
John Adams, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton.
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The first plan of the 10 plans of communism is the taking of land.
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Talk talk a little louder, my friend. A little bit louder. That's as loud as I can hear, I guess. Oh, okay. Go ahead. Say it again then. I said the first planks
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the first planks of the 10 planks of communism, the a communist manifesto is the taking of land and property. I'm glad you said that. Uh-huh. We we, the people, all the land. So they if they take us through that being a US citizen and a US resident, then we as property belong to them
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under Abolition property.
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Go ahead. I'm sorry. Number
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one. Yep. And we have become we've allowed ourselves to become their property. Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. And another plaintiff in Marxist revolutionary document was, the abolition of property and land and application of all rents of land, to public purpose purposes. That's Karl Marx wrote that. That's why we don't own our our,
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real estate that we think we'd buy. We don't own it because that has already been granted to somebody back in the whatever whatever it is. In 1800.
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Well, I would say, yeah, I'd I'd say at least least prior to the Civil War, soon as the eighteen forty eighters made their way to America. I mean, this is
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Go ahead. There's a video of the secrets of Oz, I think it's the name. The what now? The secrets of Oz.
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The secrets of Oz? Oz.
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0 Z. Oh, Oz. Oz. And it's I think it's Bill Stillwater or something like that. Okay. The secrets of Oz.
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Oz. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Yeah. And there's another video.
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It's, I think it's called The Money Makers.
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Yeah. I've seen that one.
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Anyway, that Secret of Oz talks about terrorism, stuff like that. Who's this speaking? Who who's speaking? Gary Garcia in Carleton Bad, New Mexico. Gary. Okay. Okay. Alright.
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Well, yeah, I do. I I do. I'm gonna look into that tariff, see that the tariff is a little bit, more detailed now. I'll definitely check out Levine because Levine is a constitutionalist, and he does know what he talks about when he when it comes to that in respect to the constitution. So very interesting. Very interesting. Alright. Well, I I don't even mind my mouth so much. I am I'm, I can listen. Hey, Brent. Are you there? Did you get that, that that, speech I sent to you on Hitler? Brent may have left. But I sent Brent I sent it to Brent, and I sent it to you, Julie, if Julie's on. I went to sleep at 06:30
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this morning.
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Oh my goodness. That's Brent. You can always tell Brent that voice. Okay. Well, Well, look at it when you get a chance, though, Brett. You'll you'll you'll like it. I'm sure you'll like it. I know you're dealing with that big project right now. The six there. Oh, wait a minute. So six there. Y'all three hours behind us. So it's, what is it? 12:00 there or 11:00, eleven forty?
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Yep.
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Oh, okay. Well, anything else? I, I'd love to listen in, see if everybody else got anything.
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Carl from Utah. You did mention something about, the taxes were constitutional if they're, during war times. And my understanding is we're at war times right now and have been since World War two. Oh, World War one? Two zero one. No. That somebody can correct me. I thought it was World War two.
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Okay. Okay. No. I didn't know that. You just really ask of a point of clarity. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, it's still in, yeah, it's still in place. I I understood it to be from that Lincoln declared martial law and that was never lifted. So in a way, that justified an income tax because we were in a crisis situation that, of course, of course, we the people, we can always rebel and end this end this relationship at any time because that's what the second amendment is there for.
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When did withholding tax come into play?
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Well, during the during the, the civil war based on what I'm seeing here.
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No. That was on government employees back then, and they had no way of getting anything out of any of the rest of the populace. But at World War two at World War two, they, had a way of getting, you know, a voluntary withholding tax. And who was that instituted by, who came up with the idea. And everybody else shut up.
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Oh, you you post that to me, Brent?
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Yep.
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Oh, in World War two, then?
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Oh, you'll love it.
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Go ahead.
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Who? Beardsley Rummel.
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I've heard the name.
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It it it ain't that somebody if you went to school with somebody like that, you'd be slapping them upside the head every day.
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Yes. Exactly. That's the biggest thing
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I ever want to. Begley?
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Begley Rommel? But wait a minute. Say more than, where where is this where you get where where did you get that from, Brent?
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Roger was talking about it.
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Because, I haven't heard it from that perspective. I know it was created in 1913, right, with the along with the Federal Reserve and the ADL.
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No. But the withholding tax during World War two was their chance. It was their chance to, to get them hands in their their hands in our pockets, and they never stopped it. Or rather, we never we never stopped them from,
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ending it. We never stopped him in the yeah.
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Yep.
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So and I was saying from last night, I mean, these calls are good. I mean but it it it they they're worse as if we're not gonna act on this stuff. I mean, you know? So I that's why I like to hear the idea of the with the nationals are doing. But eventually, we're gonna take it further than that.
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It it's fun, but you're milking our utters a bit much now.
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You said it to some degree last night. But, seriously, I mean, we are just too comfortable with Slaney. We got they've got wait. I'm glad someone's doing it. He's gonna make it uncomfortable uncomfortable. Hope he makes it uncomfortable enough for us to actually do something more than what we're doing.
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I agree with you, William, because all all we do is just a bunch of talk. When are we gonna stand up? Yeah.
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You know? Yes. Trump
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Trump is over there, and I'm a Democrat now three times.
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Mhmm. Now you're starting to talk now you guys are starting to talk like this guy, Cody. He he he was always he was always doing the let you and him fight.
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Oh, yeah. Thank you. Who was the gentleman that was just talking? Who was the who was the gentleman that was just saying that?
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Jerry Garcia.
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Oh, then Jerry. Okay. Jerry Garcia. Jerry, did you say you were a Democrat?
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Well, I'm a Democrat, and I voted for Trump three times, and I worked for him in this third
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run. Oh, okay. Excellent. Excellent. But yeah. I I, you know, I agree. Jerry, where you where you located at? Oh, in New Mexico. You're in New Mexico? Have you heard of Union Del Barrio? Who's that? And I'm make could be messing up the pronunciation, but the Union Del Barrio, Union del Barrio. That's a Mexican nationalist group that I worked with in California when I was with the African People's Socialist Party, and we worked with AIM, that was a Ward Churchill. I knew Ward Churchill from AIM, and then I knew Julian del Barrio. And that was a Mexican group, an Indian group, and then the, the Black revolutionaries, the African People's Socialist Party, which is a continuation of the Black Panther Party.
And I worked with all of them back in the eighties, late seventies, early eighties in California. And, we were just we pretty much we were just, you know, a racial nationalist, ethnic nationalist, and we were trying to recover the land of California. It was a couple of different Vegas, California, other than that said that the Mexican that their land belonged to Mexico. So only I did a body with educate us on that. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Under the the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty. All California, Arizona, Utah, Mexico, parts of Texas, Oklahoma, they all belong under the Guadalupe Hidalgo treaty.
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Oh, so that's what they were going on. I kinda forgot what the whole, the background of it was, but I remember just share that information with me. So the Guadalupe Hidalgo Hidalgo Treaty? The Hidalgo
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Treaty. Right. No government once once lands are issued to the people, no government, no president, no mayor, no council member, no elected idiot can come and take that land away from the people. So you're saying that that Go ahead. That's in the constitution. Uh-huh.
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Article four
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three two.
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So you do you agree with that? Or do you so do you agree with the Mexican nationalists that were that were, presenting that, position?
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Yes. Yes.
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Okay. Interesting. Interesting.
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Okay.
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And, what go ahead. That's how they're,
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that's how they're stealing first our land and then making us property
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to them. Well, y'all doing that to yourselves.
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Exactly. We're doing that to ourselves.
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Yeah. Yeah. I have no pity.
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Standing up. I'm not standing up for it.
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Our covenant that we made. So now are you a national? Have you did you pay for it to become a national,
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Jerry? Yes. Okay.
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So as a Mexican, you mentioned, like, you consider Mexico, but they they said Chicano, Mexicano. That's what they told me to call them. I'm a
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Spaniard. I'm a Spaniard. Oh, you're a Spaniard? Yeah. Well, what's the what's the thing about oh, go ahead. If you look up my last name, Garcia, my ancestors owned half of California, Arizona, and Mexico. Oh. The land.
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Yeah. In Yeah. In California,
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there's a mountain range that's named after one of my ancestors. It's called the Garcia Mountains. In California? In California. Look it up. Anyway Brent, you know where it's at? I didn't I San Luis Obispo.
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San Luis Obispo? That's Northern California.
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The mountain range? Yeah. And it's called the Garcia Mountains.
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I never heard of them, though. I never heard of the Garcia Mountains. Nobody has. And I grew up in Cali like I said, I grew up out there in Southern California and Los Angeles, San Diego, the Marine Corps, and I moved up to Oakland, San Francisco in '85 before I left, '92 or 9094, actually.
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And now you're in Florida? Yeah. No. See, I guess I yes. Now I'm in Florida. Yeah. But, anyway, even some of the port even though Florida Panhandle there belong to the Spaniards, and that that's a different tree. Under that treaty, when you buy you purchase your land or when the government granted land to to people to get a mask from everywhere. They were having to go through the Spanish, empire under treaties to confiscate all this land. But those treaties are still in play to this very day. Nobody can get rid of those treaties. No empire, no government, no president, no king.
The same way with that when when the English came over from the from the British colonies over here. Uh-huh. They landed over here and they made the 13 colonies, and the king said that's my land. And I'm gonna go over there and take back my land because you don't wanna pay me that 1.2% tax rate. And then that's when we started coming up with this no taxation without representation, baloney.
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And what year was that? That was seventeen
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seventeen twenty nine.
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Oh, okay. Just before we just before
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we had the American Revolution.
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Okay. Okay. Gotcha.
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And the same thing was going on over here in the in the western part of the country, in California, Arizona, New Mexico. All this land over here belong to the Spanish Empire. Mhmm. And then they started this all this business see, my my one of my greatest grandfathers in 1680, they call it the first American Revolution in 1680. Mhmm. So the Indian the Indians were killing off all the Spaniards because they were starting to tax them on their crops, on their, on their food supply and whatever.
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So the Indians,
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O'Fay, got up and revolted, said, you know what? The tribes all the tribes, we're gonna get together, and we're gonna revolt against the Spaniards and run them out of our country, out of our land. So they Mhmm. 16. And then they came back. The Spaniards came back about 1690 and and started taking over the lands again. And then that by that time, of course, the Americans started moving a little bit further west. And, and he started taking started taking the lands from the Spaniards that they had to make treaties. Yes, sir. The same thing is going on over there in the in the East on Florida Coast and up up the Delaware. Anyway,
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now I'm not. No. I I was I was I was listening. I was listening.
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On December. And then, in the '18 and then in the eighteen hundreds where Karl Marx came into the business, came up with that baloney with along with Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln couldn't couldn't win the presidency for so many years. I mean, I think he tried for, like, six or seven years to become the president, and nobody wanted him until the big financiers in New York put up, like, 4 or $5,000,000 to back him. And then that that's when he won the presidency. But he wanted to get rid of, the money system, the banks. He wants to get rid of the bank. So he started printing what's called the greenback paper money. He said, well, I gotta go. He went he went to I think he went to France or Russia or somewhere and tried to borrow, like, $10,000,000 or something like that. Right?
And then they they were gonna give it to him, said they were gonna charge something like 36 or 40 something percent interest on that money return. He said, man, I ain't gotta do that because the constitution allows me to print money. So he went he came back and asked congress to print four like, $400,000,000 or something like that. And they printed it out in green paperback, and then they spread it out, and then we became a wealthy nation again. But the French, the French put in, like, something like $4,000,000, and the English Rothschild put in something like $2,000,000 to to start the revolution.
And we couldn't pay that money back the first the first, bankruptcy. We couldn't pay that money back to the French. So the French said, oh, man. That's my land. But the king of England had already, you know, he had already come over here and and claimed the land for him. So it was why do you think Washington DC is called the the District Of Columbia for that very reason? Because where where does Columbia? It's a district. Columbia's way over there in the European country. Washington DC is not a state, but anyway, I'm getting too far ahead of myself. Those treaties were broken, and we couldn't pay back that that debt. So Lincoln printed all these greenbacks and started passing them out.
And we became kinda a sovereign nation. But at the same time, we're becoming a a communist nation under Lincoln. You know, that called Marx baloney where they started stealing the land from the people that they had just granted it to. So now we buy all these properties, and, you know, so I got an acre and a quarter right here in New Mexico, and I say, oh, that's my land. That's my land. See, I got the warranty. This this land that I'm sitting that I'm standing on right here belongs to another man that The United States Of America granted it to, and his name is Joshua Geikindahl. So here comes Jerry g Garcia. Oh, hey. I got from this other gentleman, Ray Ray Stone.
Hey. I got this, acre and a quarter here. You wanna buy it? Well, I already been living in it for, like, three or four years. How much do you want for it? Oh, give me $2,020,000 dollars for it. Alright. Here you go. So I give him $20,000 for a acre and a quarter with a house and a little shed behind me. And I and I think it's mine, but it's not mine because that land belonged to somebody else. So they put it under the imminent domain. Well, anything that I have on this land on top of it does not belong to me because I have it under a warranty deed. And I think, oh, I got the title to my property. A acre and a quarter. Look at this right here. A acre and a quarter. And then the city, the county, the state can come over here and steal anything they want to off of my land that I think belongs to me under that warranty deed. Because I'm under that warranty deed that says joint tenant of the of the property. Well, my wife is my wife. She's not a she's not my tenant. She my wife doesn't pay me rent to be my tenant. It says, Jeremy and Nilda Garcia, joint tenant.
Who am I a tenant with? Well, I'm a tenant with the owner that stole the property from the original owner, the very first owner in nineteen o four. That's it. That America, The United States Of America, granted it to you under a land patent. Well, if you know anything about patents, any patent, it doesn't matter if it's eyewear, a screwdriver, a screw, has a patent on it. Well, a land patent is also a patent granted to by to someone. And then you come along and you buy it and you say, oh, man. I I have my property here. I got the title to my property. No. You don't. You ain't got you ain't got nothing but a piece of paper that can burn until you go and get try to get that land patent. But if you try to go and get that land patent, being the property, which we like Roger always says, property cannot own property. Well, I'm property that belongs to somebody under that US citizenship and that residence because my residency is in Washington DC under the under the state Marco Rubio at this time. I gotta ask Marco Rubio or Casper. Hey, Marco. Can I pass from here across the border? His passport? Yeah. Let me ask you. So now I'm property, and I gotta ask permission for everything. I gotta ask permission to drive because I'm property.
I gotta ask permission to have kids because I'm property. When I have a kid, I can't take him out of the hospital because that kid doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the hospital, and we're property. Well, if we're property, how can we own any of this land that's considered property? And I'm gonna go by all the way back to Genesis because god formed man out of the dust of the earth land. So I'm part of the land. And then I think it's in Malachi too. All the silver and gold belongs to God because it comes from the land. So I'm am the land. And I forget that, and I forget, God, you made me the land. You made me out of the land, out of the dust. And when I die, I wanna go return to dust. But the spirit you breathe in me is gonna go to be with who with you. God, come come and take me. But until then, do what you need to do here on the land. Claim the land. He told Abraham, Abraham, go over here to this land that I'm gonna give to you and to your heirs.
He he told Moses when he let go and get my people out of that land and take them to this land. And then they started complaining. Oh, no, lord. I wanna go back to Egypt where I have food, where I have water, where I have where I have where I have where I have where I have gold, where I have silver. God God told Moses to tell the people, go over there and get all the gold and to take it with you. Get their don't take their idols. One of them took the idol. But anyway, why why would God tell the people tell Moses to tell the people to go and collect silver and gold because they all belong to god.
They were god's people and go to this land that I'm gonna send you to. And then when they got there, oh, no. We can't take over that land, Joshua. Them them giants in there. We're like grasshoppers to them. We'll put a grasshopper in front of you. That's that's what that's what God's people thought that they couldn't control the land. They couldn't take the land. Here we are in 2025 when we say, oh, my land. It's not your land. It belongs to somebody else. You're fraudulently renting from
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and I'm ranching. Anyway, I'm done with it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I was just I I muted out and trying to wanna disturb you. Oh, okay. But that next guy gave you some insight on the the the, what now what do you say you consider yourself a a Mexican or a Spaniard? I'm a Spaniard. Spaniard. Okay. Okay.
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But my mother was Mexican. She was born in Mexico. My my great great grandpa even my dad told me he said, when my dad was alive, he told me, oh, I'm not Mexican. I'm a Spaniard. And I I said, dad, you're crazy. You're a lunatic. Right? And come to find out, he was right. He was a Spaniard. My mother was Mexican. And like Roger says, I think he calls it the, the sangria or something. The land of sangria, The blood the blood of the land. So we get our we get our to become a male and even a female. We get our bloodline through our fathers. Even though our mothers are the ones who put out the millions and millions and millions of eggs, It just which one hits, and and then we become men or women. We don't become Adam and Steve. We become Adam and Eve.
Male and female, he created them to dump it, to have dominion. Have this thing. Yeah. So this thing is. To have dominion over the land. To have dominion over the fish that swim in the water. W. To have dominion over the birds that fly in the air. Hey. To have dominion over the paddle and all the w a l. So if god put up a wall in Genesis one twenty six, and then later on about four thousand years, maybe maybe three thousand years later, in Psalms eight four, David says, God, who am I that you crown me with all this crown and gave me integrity and honor and gave me dominion over all the creeping things and cattle and the fish that are in the land on the land and over all the birds and and fowl that fly in the air, l a, and over all the things that swim in the ocean of water, l k w, Psalms eight four nine, and you gave me the law. Who am I that you gave me honor and integrity and gave me the law so I can use it? Judges now, lawyers now, Washington DC now has no honor or integrity.
When they fired them bullets against Trump, something snapped in him. Whether it be good or bad, something snapped. Because if he hadn't turned if God hadn't turned his head at that right time, that man would have been dead like JFK with a big old hole in the side of his head. And we'd be in a bigger mess than we are right now, which we're in a pretty good mess right now. But I agree with him terribly. Yeah. I didn't see so. I'll go ahead. If our country had a surplus from the revolution up until, '18 or 1913, a surplus with only tariffs. Because like Roger said, there's only two taxes, eight seventy seven b and eight seventy one b, that we have to pay and will never ever in our lives stand. And from from the beginning of our country to 1913, there was no taxes on any of us.
Nothing. Everything was done through terrorists like Brent
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said, through terrorists.
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And then all of a sudden, this dummy, I think it was, Wilson in 1913. Oh. Which he regretted signing that, and he might have regretted it, you know, because he can he considered himself a a scam. Sign that bill to give the Federal Reserve all the power to create money and took it away from the congress. Anyway, I'm ready.
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That was that was that was interesting. Anybody else? I'm just I'm just listening in now. I just, I I don't have any I don't think I have another question. And the tariff thing is when I'm really keen on, I'm a go ahead and give you some as much information I can on that. I'll look at LaVine. Mark LaVine. I think 11 or Mark LaVine.
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Hey, William.
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Yes, sir.
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Hey. This is Larry again. Hey. Give me your thoughts, because I don't believe any of these assassination attempts were fake. I'm sure you heard that going around in the conspiracy theory community. Give me your thoughts on, about that whole situation. Like, these people are saying, oh, you know, this was a fake shooting, and they're acting and all this.
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Yeah. I, I I've I've never never been a big, component supporter of that analogy either, because, now but I did there was a lady on last night that had mentioned well, I know Sandy Hook. Now Tony can say something about Sandy Hook. I didn't look into Sandy Hook, but I just totally discredited Sandy Hook when Alex Jones has something to do with it because Alex Jones to me at the time was a a a a a shield for the state of Israel and just a sensationalist, you know, and a and a news guy. So he's just making everything, you know, to me, more extravagant than what it was.
And so he turns a a a a a natural occurrence into some type of mythological act. So I mean, like, Kennedy with the with the with the thing about, Hitler, Kennedy, nine one one. I really believe that something happened that day, and and, I can't write this stuff off as that it just didn't happen or like, Kennedy wasn't assassinated. I mean, Kennedy did an a lot of stuff to be assassinated. So, like, the four the three presidents before him, Garfield, McKinley, and Lincoln, they all tampered with the monetary system and so was Kennedy. And and they were standing up against the the Jewish powers. So it it it can't be that extravagant when these people just ride off in luxury and fake their desk because they to me, they were they were threatening to the establishment.
They had they had legitimately threatened the establishment. And so the establishment had had a good, a good a good suspicion of their motives and said, listen, we need to do away with them. I I think that if we walk around with carrying on these type of, endorsing these type of a theory conspiracy theories, then that means that we don't think that we can be attacked or nothing's gonna happen to us. We just continue to do all of this, anything that we wanna do, and there won't be any consequences. And like Tony was me and Tony was saying on the show with, with, that we had, you know, some some really, what you wanna call it, exuberant exchange with, Mark I'm sorry, with Roger regarding we're not saying that the paperwork doesn't work. We're just saying that we understand the wise child formula of give me control of the nation's eternity, and I cannot write these laws. So when we when we write things off as conspiratorial nature, then we're just saying, okay. Well, I can just do anything I want. Nothing's gonna happen to me. And I don't believe that. I mean, I've been around. I've seen what happened to the the Black Panther Party. I've seen what happened to Ruby Ridge. I've seen what happened in Waco. I've seen what happened in Moo.
I mean, these are these are real live people that resisted government authority, and, the government moved on it. So the same thing was the government was moving on, on Kennedy. The government's moving with nine one one. And and the government and other and other deep state narrative or deep state operatives were had an interest in destroying, a particular narrative or a particular person or entity that was going against their their rule. So I me, personally, I I don't support I don't support it. Now I I'd love to hear, some other feedback from other people even in this audience here, but I just can't moving I mean, like, just discount, Sandy Sandy Hook or whatever or either if you wanna talk about Sandy Hook, then Tony, you should chime in because me and Tony had a discussion on it this morning.
And I just don't I believe all that stuff happened. I really did believe it happened. And if it, you know, it made some some aspects of it may have been exaggerated, but I don't really believe that Kennedy wrote off in Argentina or South America Retired or Hitler did either. I think that these people were were legitimately, suicided or, you know, dealt with by the establishment.
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Yeah. You're right. Roger so there's a couple of callers that called in the show, right after the assassination attempts. And, they're trying to make it out that it was all fake. And Roger, of course, doesn't buy into all that. Yeah. You're talking about Trump
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thing. Yeah. Yeah. Trump. Oh, I was talking about the other stuff too. Yeah. But no. You agree.
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Yeah. I mean, any any type of, conspiracy theory. Yeah. Yeah. You've heard it. But specifically with Trump, we had some callers call in, you know, students, and, and they're like, well, you know, that's just fake, and there's some type of sacrifice going on because it was the ear and the foot or whatever. I mean, just all this stuff that I just, I can't believe that, you know, someone would look at it that way. And, yeah. And so Roger didn't buy into it either, you know, because there's people that, just like you said, they they think, Kennedy's still alive. I mean, there's people that think Elvis is still alive, you know? Yeah. I know. I know. You might as well just say, you know, nobody dies. Bruce Lee must be still alive and, you know. And people say that Tupac,
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Bruce Lee, Elvis, not saying good lord. When are they gonna stop? So so no nobody been killed? So McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln, and Kennedy oh, Kennedy. We already said Kennedy. These people are all still alive? I mean, I I just can't. It's too far fetched for me. I'm not that I'm guessing to say I'm not that intelligent to to to get into the Then then let's do some basic math here.
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Okay? Please. Please. Yes. Alright. They're doing child sacrifice. Right? What y'all doing? You know who they is. Don't play that bullshit with me. No. Don't play that bullshit with me. They they is they. You know who it is. The powers that shouldn't be. Yeah. I'm I'm moving moving forward. Moving forward. Let's cut the bullshit. Let's cut the bullshit. Alright. They're doing child sacrifice. They're doing pornography. They're doing all this other crap to the public. They're kidnapping kids, child or, human trafficking. So how far fetched is it that they faked Kennedy's death right in front of your eyes? They hid all the film, and there were all kinds of people filming. They offed a bunch of people that were eyewitnesses to it.
How far fetched is it they faked the shit here? Ding, ding, ding.
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Okay. I I need to respond to that then then, Brett, because when you say how far fetched, they have a lot to lose. The the establishment has a lot to lose. And put it this way, if I was in power and I was going around killing people, I would love to have people like you and others, the ding ding lady and whoever else to support that narrative. So I mean, I can go out anybody that resist my protocols, then I can just ask them, and then I'll leave it up to you people to come up with these conspiracy theories to let me off the hook. So I would love for people like you. If I was the state apparatus or the deep state, I would love for people like you to be in existence because you're gonna let me off from all of the, the murders and the, the controversy that I caused. You're gonna just attribute it to conspiracy theories and instead of us saying that listen to deep state, and and these people didn't do it because it's it's,
[01:38:41] Unknown:
y'all exactly what I'm saying. Prayer, I'm throwing a team down the well.
[01:38:47] Unknown:
Do you believe in God or do you think Rothschild's all powerful?
[01:38:52] Unknown:
No. I don't believe in Rothschild's all powerful. Alright. I believe we are I believe we are the god. That's the we are the gods. Ye are the gods like Jesus said.
[01:39:03] Unknown:
There's only one god.
[01:39:05] Unknown:
God, I didn't say that. I said the gods. I didn't say that. I said this with a little g. I'm not saying I'm your god. We are the gods. No. I'll tell you what.
[01:39:13] Unknown:
Go ahead. You need my archives. Alright?
[01:39:16] Unknown:
No. No. I don't need them. I don't need them because I'm not gonna go down. I'm not gonna throw down that that I study a lot of stuff, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna deal with that. I if I'm just telling you that if I was a always said, never mind. Never mind. If you've got your most your mind closed, never mind. No. No. No. No. I mean, I got a I think I got a open mind, but let me say this. When you I would love to be a tower and have people like you all to let me off the hook on every every action I take on a person that is challenging my authority. I can just kill them and just leave it to you all and say, hey. That's that wasn't a killing. William didn't kill them. This this so called situation happened.
[01:39:55] Unknown:
Damn. He was in the club. He was given an ultimatum. No doubt. Alright? But this was his retirement plan. But I've got other theories. Alright? Listen. Andrew Jackson. Right? You can keep him, although those pistols were just fine. Right? He smacked him with the cane. And what was his motto? I kill the banks. And Michael Gaddy found there were four other times that they tried to assassinate him. Okay. So then next on the timeline is Adolf Hitler. And you can go to sharkhunters.com and Harry Cooper, and all these people that knew him, and they loved him. And they took him to South America. His first two laws were no pornography and no interest. Alright? And the rabbi Reuben likes to talk about that. I just called into John Moore's show about that. I could play that for you right here too. But, anyway,
[01:40:48] Unknown:
that's it. That's that's two. That's two. We get to Kennedy. No. No. Wait a minute. No. No. You ain't proved nothing to me yet, though. Though. I haven't responded, so don't get it. You just it's just you out there spitting out the conspiracy theory. I'm not supporting it. I'm I'm gonna give you my rebuttal. Why why are you so hot on conspiracy theories? That came from the CIA in '64. Right, Brent? Yeah. When Kennedy would assassinate Kennedy. Yes. Because people were throwing up a more smokescreen than that.
[01:41:15] Unknown:
With the right people on it.
[01:41:17] Unknown:
Why you sucking on that tit?
[01:41:21] Unknown:
Because, yeah, the milk tastes good. But I I mean, I I like I said, I would need to do more research, but I don't really have the time to delve into it from that perspective. I'm it's enough for me just to say, listen. Here's the biggest conspiracy of all. We as lazy, ignorant, fat human beings that do nothing about our enslavement. That's enough for me to digest right now. How in the hell can that happen? How can we just sit around and let this happen? Listen. Some of us do have time to research, and we're bringing this stuff forward. Alright? Okay. But what are you doing about my interest? Let me ask you, what are you doing about our current enslavement? You're gonna we we need all these other I can't enslave everything. I unenslaved myself.
[01:42:02] Unknown:
You can only You are enslave my plantation. Hey. Listen. Come on. You just wanna argue.
[01:42:09] Unknown:
No. I'm saying you are a safe on the plane because the USLD
[01:42:12] Unknown:
finish. You didn't even let me finish what I was saying. Go go ahead. Please. Go ahead. Can you just get back to your titty?
[01:42:20] Unknown:
No. But don't please go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off from that. I'm just saying that you you you mentioned two and you said, okay. That's two out there. No. I didn't rebut those two, but you said you got four. Go ahead. I have a question.
[01:42:33] Unknown:
Have you have you ever been fooled by a magician?
[01:42:37] Unknown:
Yes. Well Yes. I have.
[01:42:40] Unknown:
Okay. So we all can be fooled by magicians.
[01:42:46] Unknown:
Mhmm. Granted. I agree. I agree.
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And it is
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watch my left hand while my right hand is stabbing you.
[01:42:55] Unknown:
Mhmm.
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So I will I would say that there are magicians at work.
[01:43:07] Unknown:
Mhmm. Mhmm. That's that's all I'll say. I Mhmm. Okay. I mean, I don't listen. I would love to have that discussion, but when I got a rope around my neck, I need to get that rope off my neck first, and then I can definitely get the discussion. But right now, I don't I don't those most of those narrative that you give about Hitler, Elvis, Tupac, or or, Did I say either of those names? I don't. I just don't know. They say the same thing about them, though. They say the same thing about Elvis. They say the same thing about Tupac. Hi, Savannah. Hi, Jessica. Puppies.
[01:43:46] Unknown:
Jessica, just put that put that titty back in your mouth. I'm just calling you.
[01:43:50] Unknown:
Okay. So first, you tell me to put put titty in my mouth first, then you say take it out. Put it in. What do you want me to do with it? No. I just said you were. I never told you to take it out and you never did. Oh, okay. Because I like it. I like it. I ain't gonna lie, but go ahead. Right. So we can William, I just, I think Murr likes conspiracy theories. So I think so too. But you
[01:44:11] Unknown:
you like the CIA if you wanna talk about conspiracy theories all the time. Mhmm. There's conspiracy theories. I don't wanna division in amongst our group. I don't wanna division. Sebastian. There are conspiracy facts. Facts, Jack. Okay? They maybe hate facts to the Jews, but it's Uh-huh. Nonetheless. So we got to Adolf Hitler. That's two. Okay. Andrew Jackson Okay. Adolf Hitler. Kennedy was the third. And I didn't think this either, but other people have really researched this. And it turns out, and there's more and more information coming out, that he lived. He was only shot in the right arm. If you look into it, there weren't a lot of pictures taken. There was one other camera in there in Dealey Plaza. There was almost no people in there. There was none of the major media there. This was all set up. And you Oh, what are you talking you talking about you talking about Tinnity now. Right? You talking about Tinnity? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm talking about Tinnity. Okay. Tony did a report on that, though. As soon as you finish, I want Tony to chime in and give his report on that because Tony did research on that. Go ahead. May I finish, please? I have him and then one more. Okay? There's four. Alright? There's four Mhmm. That go in this little set. Yeah. So Kennedy wrote the executive order 11/2010.
We know about that, and he did do some good things. But his father his father was, you know, part of the mob. You know? They mobbed him in, with the vote in Chicago. You know? So, I mean, he's not perfect, and neither he nor Jackie lived moral lives. We know that. And he was starting to advance too fast for them. No doubt. Mary Pinchot Myers apparently gave him acid, gave him some LSD and woke his butt up. But that wasn't the end of it. They played it out. They game planned it. Alright? He was even talking to different ones about, you know, the way, Lincoln how Lincoln is so respected, and he's probably the worst president we ever had.
[01:46:08] Unknown:
And you said Dan again. You said they like Brent did. Can you define they, or are you gonna run from that too?
[01:46:14] Unknown:
Well, you know, they call themselves a Luciferian brotherhood. Is that if you say That's why I want to hear y'all say, okay. Slow down. Okay. Go ahead. Justice, correct?
[01:46:22] Unknown:
Look, Marie. I don't run from shit. I face I face it here, the f on.
[01:46:29] Unknown:
That's right. Come on. Got it. Good. So, anyway, with Kennedy from the day for narrative, but go ahead. With Kennedy, he lived, and he was taken to a place, and he probably didn't live but about six more years with the Saderson's disease. But you can even see, like, in the X rays they took this, oh, his back is perfect. Well, no. His back was not perfect. He was injured in the war, PT one zero nine, and he had osteoporosis. He had pins in his back. This is well known fact. You know? I mean, there's a lot of different proofs, but it's very interesting. There was a guy looked just like him, a doppelganger, a patrolman named JD Tippets.
JD stood for Jefferson Davis. Right? G Gordon Liddy, apparently, this is this is, even bragged about it. He shot down Tippets, okay, in the street and then shot him in the back of the head so they could use that body as Jacks, as JFKs. Alright? So, anyway, he survived. Alright. So he did do something about the monetary system there for a while. And then we have Trump. This is number four, and I'll stop after this one. But in his first term, what did he do? He had us energy efficient, even exporting. We weren't bringing anything in. You don't hear about that. Gas was a dollar 89 at the pump. Right, Brent? Yeah. Brent told me that. So I'm sure that's good. Vegas. Yep. And in Vegas no less. Alright?
Because it's always higher. They are but he also, what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah. He didn't start any new wars. Duh. These are the things that Jew bankers gotta have. They gotta keep us in debt, and they gotta be doing these mass load sacrifices, which is are what wars are for Satan. Right? Okay. So then they shoot at him. Now that was July 13. July fourteenth, I had a radio show, and I thought for sure it was just a staged event. Okay? But over the next week, I learned from different areas, different things. They shorted his true social with 12,000,000 shares and, then tried to scratch it back. Right? They had Doug Mills, the New York Times ace photographer there to catch it. Right?
He he caught a picture of the bullet, but and there were people that died there that fireman died when he's protecting his family. I mean, that was so messed up. See, only I think it was ten days before he was to appear there in Butler, which they before last, you know, last campaign, he had 58,000 people there at the airport. And ten days before, they told him, no. We're gonna do something else at the airport. You can't go there. So they were sidelined over to this farm where they set up this hit. They truly meant to kill him, you know, which is what a but there was a big gust of wind that came up just as that bullet was going by and just as he turned his head. I mean, this is God at work. I'm sorry, people, but you and this is just how it is. So, anyway, so that's four. Alright?
And we had a shirt we had a shirt from RBN, a couple people put together, and it says, no Israel without Jesus, and it has a picture of Jesus turning over the money changers' table. So what I'm saying is, God protects these leaders that have virtually turned over the money changers' tables. And Jesus himself did it twice. We're always told about once just before they crucified him, but he did it once at the beginning of his, ministry too. You know, he was had his ministry for, like, three years. So you can find that in John chapter two starting in verse 11. He and his mother and brethren went up to Jerusalem for the Passover. He did it there, and this was right after his first miracle, turning the, water into grape juice. It wasn't really wine. They call it wine. But and then in Mark 11 starting with the first fifteen, you'll see where it was three or four days before they crucified him. He did it again.
So there's two accounts that you know, two events that are accounted for. Whether he did it more than that, who knows? It's not in the bible, but, so I'm just saying, you know, this is this is how you fight back is you deprive them of your money. Quit giving them your money as best you can. You know? We have to withdraw participation as much as we can as soon as we can, but it will be different for each of us.
[01:50:48] Unknown:
Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. Let me let me ask another question. Let me ask a question. When you say withdraw our funds from them, stop financing their endeavors. I can agree with that. We need to stop financing their endeavors. Now it may seem farfetched to me. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that what you're saying is just totally untrue. I'm just saying that I haven't had done the research. I'm a research fanatic, and I have to do research before I come to a conclusion. And I and when I say research, I gotta be able to see both sides of the situation. But I just don't I don't have the time to do that. But in listening to you, I mean, it sounds far fetched. I'm not gonna lie because I really do believe those people were killed, nine one one happens, and things like that. If you say they didn't, I do believe that I have been fooled by magicians.
Okay? Yes. I have been fooled by magicians. But if you could the conclusion of it is you say, well, let's withdraw our funds from it. I can come to Unity with you on that because I want to withdraw my funds so that this stuff can stop happening. And if if you think that our funds are contributing to it, which I I I believe in too, that that we are financing our own enslavement, our own demise, then I can agree with you in doing that. The the the from, from a participatory, position, situation. But it's it's a little bit I'm not as smart as you all are, and I don't I don't, I can't, look at it from that perspective of, you know, Kennedy riding off into the rise and rise in retirement or Hitler either.
[01:52:20] Unknown:
I'm not as smart as you folks. You folks are really intelligent. I'm not as intelligent. It's not not about smart. It's just what you said from the beginning. That's not where your time is invested. Listen, we believe in god. We believe in god, and he says what? Church has different members. Of course, our bodies are the churches, but we each have different depths, different different purpose in life. And so Right. We're to share what we find, and that's what I'm doing.
[01:52:46] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I and I I believe in unity. So I've been with Larry Ashford. I just give me my position, but then when you came in and then Brent came in, I'm saying, okay. Well, you know, I'm gonna rebut it, but it's ain't not rebutting. It means I'm trying to get more clarity, and I'm trying to be offensive. I'm trying to get more clarity. But I'm trying to get more clarity. So, Murr, you believe,
[01:53:04] Unknown:
Murr, you believe that that assassination attempt, the first one on Trump, was all faked?
[01:53:11] Unknown:
I don't believe that was going on. No. You didn't listen to what I said. The next day, the fourteenth, I had a radio show, and I thought so then. But by the time the twenty first came around with my next radio show, I took it all back and showed proof where it it had to be real.
[01:53:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Because I analyzed that whole situation for weeks. I've watched I've watched hundreds of videos and, the powers that be let that happen. They let that happen. They let that kid get on the roof. There was a stand down. There's no communications. They never, went over the area prior to Trump's arrival. I mean, I could go on and on. There's just so many so called mistakes that just, are beyond coincidental.
[01:53:56] Unknown:
Right. That was their excuse. They couldn't use the airport. They only had ten days, so they used this form. But they were using it to set it up. And that's probably why you didn't even let them use the airport. You know, you would think they had, reserved it. Why why would they suddenly give it to somebody else unless that was part of the plan too? They were trying to take him out.
[01:54:17] Unknown:
Wait a minute. So you you you agree with you agree with us that that the candidate that the, Trump assassination was not fake or whatever you wanna call it. No. That's what I'm saying.
[01:54:28] Unknown:
My show the next day. I believe. The next day. I got it. I got that. I got that. But what I wanna move through, so you can read Kennedy. Uh-huh. In that in that show, right, I played the audio from miss, Ashley Babbitt. Now that was fake. Okay? That was On January 6? Yes. They wanted to curb and stop what was going on. But if you look through the stuff, go through it slowly, turn off the audio, and, one of them was even filming it. But she had this big backpack on and fell down, and there was Uzi, mulage coming out of the backpack. She didn't have all that so called blood on her until they carried her out in front of everybody, which they also don't ever do. Right?
Somebody's injured, they get them to the, you know, privately get them into a ambulance and get them the heck out of there. They don't parade them around out in front of everybody.
[01:55:20] Unknown:
You know? So we have So you would say that you are the mother the mother that supposedly or the I think it's a mother or something that's going around the country, raising awareness around that issue. So you would
[01:55:32] Unknown:
you know, believe that you I'm just saying maybe she didn't know. Maybe she really, you know, they really did get her out of town. And maybe they did kill her later. Maybe they did kill her later. But I'm thinking that she had a special needs son too. Right? And maybe her family didn't know, or maybe they did and are in on it. It was awful weird the way the mother hung around there so she could talk to people, all these people hanging around. And I'm like, yeah. What's she doing? She's sniffing for anybody that's not down with the story.
[01:56:08] Unknown:
Yes. Now it so so you said okay. So so the Trump thing is not one of those smokescreen, but you say the Kennedy is a smokescreen.
[01:56:15] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. And there's just more and more proof coming out. Just more and more proof. And, and and it's interesting that the Argentine president, right, saying about Hitler not being killed. But they have some goofy details, like through the tunnels and in the submarine. The man was claustrophobic. They flew him to the South America. Okay? But he was drugged. He and Eva were drugged on order of Martin Borman. This wasn't a choice. So they were really abducted. But they were setting everything up for him because they love them, because he pulled their country together. And there are so many Germans in South America. The Argentine army looks just like the German army.
[01:56:57] Unknown:
Mhmm. So okay. So so now these powers that be the Luciferians is what you're calling them. Right? Luciferians.
[01:57:04] Unknown:
Well, they call themselves the Luciferian Brotherhood or the Illuminati,
[01:57:08] Unknown:
you know. Illuminati. Okay. Okay. Now now these people these are the day that that you and Brent that Brent was, alluding to as well. So these Luciferians, Illuminati are are setting up these, scenarios and then, taking the taking the primary force and then off into retirement or whatever to dupe the people into what? What what do they what what are they doing?
[01:57:37] Unknown:
Listen. It was essential that they removed Kennedy so they can do all the screwing to us that they've done ever since. But they also wanna make him with that? He also wanted they also wanted to make him look like a saintly martyr, and he wasn't. You know? But that's alright. You know? I mean, that's just how we're but listen. It's not you cannot just compartmentalize it into political and this and that. Right? You heard Brent say about the sacrifice in children? That's a real damn thing. I mean, I've I've heard of that yet. I I've seen read it in the bible. They've been doing it forever because they get dark power from it. And so all these children getting killed in Gaza, don't you think that strengthens their dark side? Yeah. Of course, it does. Okay. So so so but my thing is, okay, should we rise up and did did know if they're doing all this? No. No. No. Rising up rising up is what they want us to do so they can Oh, so we should sit back and just No. So we can't talk to them as long as Those aren't the only two choices.
[01:58:43] Unknown:
Oh, what's the other choice? What's that?
[01:58:46] Unknown:
Exactly. Do that. Oh, don't tell me that. Please don't tell me. Okay. Are you gonna not you gonna not pray? Well, you're praying with action. You're not praying to God. Alright? Prayer with action. I'm a do prayer with action. Of course. But it doesn't mean you have to rise up and start some other hot, bloody stuff. It means you have to been a while. You have to withdraw participation as much as you can as soon as you can, but it will be different for each of us.
[01:59:15] Unknown:
So who are we? Like he wants to let you and him fight. Yeah. That's what Black Widow said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a marine. I'm a marine. I'm a real marine. I like bread.
[01:59:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh.
[01:59:30] Unknown:
Uh-uh. Look look here. Look here. Look here, Mojet. Look here, Mojet. What kind of jet don't fly? A Mojet. What kind of what what do you call a, I forgot, but it's a newbie, and that's what you are. I was I was in Charlie one seven. Okay? Were you in a line unit?
[01:59:54] Unknown:
Hell no. You know you know where I was at. I was going to college.
[02:00:00] Unknown:
Oh, okay. You're you're getting I went I went to college I went to college also. Yeah. It's a damn college and reproductive school.
[02:00:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Indoctrination.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Indoctrination. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a good idea.
[02:00:15] Unknown:
There's a really good article. It's in the news feed on RBN,org. It's not in the revolver thing now, but it's still in the column of the news. And anything they ever have for news posted is in there. You just can go back through the archives. But, anyway, it's about homeschooling and the trivia method, classical conversation. And this is what we need to be doing with our children if we wanna save this world at all till he comes back.
[02:00:48] Unknown:
Oop. What happened? Oh, Mary, you gotta be kind to William and Tony. They're new students.
[02:00:55] Unknown:
We gotta be kind. I'm I'm just I don't know. You and you and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me and me We no. We got primed last night, didn't we, Tony and William?
[02:01:06] Unknown:
We know you. We had a good conversation last night. After my buddies Just like that. Just like, you know, because I I resonate with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Like, y'all resonate with this whole, that not the conspiracy facts, I guess you would say. The conspiracy facts, I resonate with the Dead Sea Scrolls from that level as well, you know. So the Dead Sea Scrolls.
[02:01:27] Unknown:
And I and I've seen You gotta have both. You think about Dead Sea Scrolls. You gotta have both. This is the thing. You can't be closed off because it's one or the other. That's how they trick you. You know, a dirt could be for each of baby's hands. No.
[02:01:43] Unknown:
So then therefore okay. Let me ask you. So since Roger doesn't believe in it, then what? Because I I know that's your your supreme teacher there. So what about Roger? You may not you may not You may not you may not Well, you know what? No. Jesus Christ is my supreme key teacher. Alright? I know. I'm used like Cathy. I'm used like that. Yes. You are. Yes. You're a student. You're a student of Roger. You're a student of of mine.
[02:02:05] Unknown:
Guys. I may Let's
[02:02:08] Unknown:
one second. Roger and Michael Gatti are both like professors. Alright? You said you went to college. Did you see a difference in professors and how they didn't get along? Okay. I yield, Paul.
[02:02:20] Unknown:
She she cuts me off real quick. Oh, you're kidding. Okay. Alright.
[02:02:25] Unknown:
Here's the deal. Uh-huh. There there is a personal thing that went on between Roger Sales and Michael Gaddy.
[02:02:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We're kinda like young. Michael Michael had excuse me.
[02:02:39] Unknown:
Michael copied an attitude because of a misunderstanding that Roger didn't know about until after the fact. And
[02:02:50] Unknown:
that caused Michael What was that, Paul?
[02:02:53] Unknown:
What was that, Paul? Because I'll I'll tell you what I think then too that the that I learned if you The only thing I know is Roger's side of the the only thing I know is Roger's side of the story. There was another guy that was gonna be on with Michael and Roger, and that guy was in touch with Roger. And Roger got to thinking that, you know, Roger and talking to that person, they thought they were going to be doing a show about national status and all that happy shit, but Michael Gatti had a different impression of why that guy was gonna be on there. And when Roger and the guy were talking about national status, Michael Gaddy got pissed off. He left the show. He hung up, and then he no showed subsequent shows.
[02:03:38] Unknown:
And then Okay. Let me Roger can I tell you oh, go ahead?
[02:03:42] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that was the story that I heard. Alright. Well, let me tell you something. Misunderstanding it was a misunderstanding that led to a personality clash and a conflict in between the people. And that conflict is colored each person's impression of the validity of the other person's information.
[02:04:06] Unknown:
So, you know, honey, I gotta add on the end of this if I may, but okay, here's Michael Gatti's side of it. Alright? He he Wait a minute. Before you go, though, let me just let me just wait. Let me just ask a question. How how long ago did this happen? It doesn't matter.
[02:04:21] Unknown:
These Yeah. Well, it doesn't matter to me, but Well, I know I
[02:04:26] Unknown:
2013. Ten years ago. Wow. Good lord. Good lord. Good lord. Okay. There again, they teach different things. But, anyway, Michael Gaddy, like Brent Winters on Friday, came on on, I think it was Wednesdays. And if you ever prepare for a show, it takes double at least the amount of time you're gonna present. Alright? So if you're gonna be on an hour, you're studying up and getting everything ready for a couple hours at least. Right? So Michael came on and like usual and this other fellow came on and said, oh, we're gonna talk about national status. Well, after after the half hour mark, you know, there's hardly any time left and, it and that's Michael's disposition. He left, You know? So that's that's that was his side of it. And I can understand that, but they're different people. But here's what something funny.
Okay? DW, I don't know how many of you know who DW is. Darryl Wayne, the retired air, commercial pilot, but he and, Michael both have a dog named Maggie. Right? And, I said something that they were saying how they didn't get along, and I said, well, probably because they have the same name. Right? And, so, Michael and DW, they, you know, said, well, you know how women are and are laughing it up hardly. So when they left, Annette Annette Annette was trying to figure out what we were getting on to here with these two guys not getting along. And she says, oh, so, you know how women are.
This is how about these two guys not getting along. Right? I don't know. I just thought it funny.
[02:06:03] Unknown:
Okay. Let me let me answer Okay. Let me answer William's question. What do you do? How do you fix it? No organized, organized rebellion, uprising, assault, whatever. No organized thing would ever have any traction because it would be immediately labeled an insurrection. It would be immediately labeled an attempt to overthrow the government. It would be another Ruby Ridge in a Waco, you know, all rolled into one. The only thing that we can do the only thing that we can do is back out of the system, and we're not gonna be able to undo all the monetization of the birth bond and all that happy shit that has happened from this day backward.
But we can pull ourselves out of the system and stop giving them an open signature that they can monetize and create more bonds. That will stop the hemorrhage going forward.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
Also bond stands for bondage. Go ahead.
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Also, file an affidavit with the secretary of state. It gets yourself out from underneath the federal thumb. Once you are no longer a subject, once you are no longer property, then you can go live your life. You can do what you need to do. Just stop funding your enslavement, volunteer out of the IRS, and, they just stop playing their game. And the most important thing, while you're doing that, you are providing an example to the people around you. And those people around you see the empowerment that has come from your new life as a national. They've seen your paychecks hit and bigger. They've seen your car get nicer. They've seen improvements in your life, including, but not limited to, your attitude, your empowerment, and your strength.
They're gonna see that. They're gonna see they're still a slave and you a free man walking around. And your shoulders being back proves it, shows it. You ain't afraid of nobody, and you are spreading the word, and you are telling those people, showing those people, dragging those people in, and helping them do exactly the same thing for themselves. And once that movement gets legs, once that exponential growth starts happening and this stuff goes all the way across the country and all the way around the world, then the powers to be won't have the power of lying or false flags. They won't have the fear in the people that they insist upon having.
They won't have the the dutiful, loyal subjects anymore. They will have free people standing up and telling them, hey. That ain't right. That ain't fair. You can't do that. And we're here to tell you you can't do that. That's what they'll have. That's what we'll have, and that's what this world will be. But it all starts with you backing out of the system, stopping funding your enslavement, and you spreading the word and sharing the message and bringing all kinds of people with you. That's what does this. That's what we can do.
And pray because it never hurts.
[02:09:38] Unknown:
Pray first always. Pray without ceasing. But there's some nuances here. Some of us are in Oh. In are in, you know, marriages or whatever that are, kind of in limbo, but we don't hate the individual, and we would rather do whatever it takes to keep them from being too much worried or whatever. Now this may vary with people, but rather than just breaking off everything, you know, if you gotta get away from them, get away from them. But you don't have to. I'm just saying this is my situation, you know. So I handle the finances and all just works out because I'm very frugal and very honest.
But that's what we each have to be is is honest, and frugal doesn't hurt. And that just doesn't necessarily mean be cheap either, but, you know, so it's important to do that. But we also, I had one I'm go ahead. I forgot what else I was gonna say. Can I say something,
[02:10:44] Unknown:
back to, you know, starting a bunch of crap or what you gonna do? I'll be starting Well, look at look look look look at look at what they did with January 6. Those people didn't do anything violent. They brought the violent people there. They filmed it, and then they trumped up a bunch of damn charges. That's what's gonna happen if you stand up. They're gonna give you a fist in the mouth that you weren't bargaining for.
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Mhmm.
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You know? So why why not stay out of their sight?
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Right. Right. And the the other thing I was gonna say, don't don't discount how Amish and people like that live. We may need to learn to do that again.
[02:11:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't I don't disagree with that. I like what the Amish is. They have, yeah, they they're outside the system for sure. But we gotta be able to defend ourselves just in case because they will still try to set us up because a lot look at Martin Luther King with the nonviolent program, and they killed him.
[02:11:47] Unknown:
Hello?
[02:11:49] Unknown:
You mean Jesse Jackson killed him. Okay. Whoever, then, you have Malcolm X and the inside the inside the nation. Islam, they they use agents inside Islam Islam to kill Malcolm X as well. So, either Fred Hampton or the Black Panther Party. And the dudes that did it.
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And the dudes that did it didn't rot in prison. They walked they were walking in the street. They'll not leave the guy.
[02:12:15] Unknown:
So we you're saying we're you're saying I heard, I think of Larry Larry or either Paul. I I get them mixed up all the time. They're gonna cuss me out again. I think whatever one went on a dissertation. Again?
[02:12:28] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, they all sound the same.
[02:12:31] Unknown:
Yeah.
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So so Hey. That's my line.
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So who was it? Was it Larry or was it Paul?
[02:12:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Whoever sounded more intelligent, that's Larry.
[02:12:46] Unknown:
Oh, neither one of them. Neither one of them. Okay. So so just, just, you know, so y'all saying now I like like the the lady said, you know, they are nuances. They are different. And with every each person is, we have our own, strategies, that we've, based on our research, our study, and our past endeavors in life, I find that, historically, people that have risen up have had success. I'm not gonna say all of them, but they have had success. There was a a lot of bloodshed, of course. The American Revolution, I think, did that, the American Revolution was a great thing. I think that the sellouts after the American Revolution is the one that, the one that sold out the revolution or, or take well, most of you aren't familiar with the Dead Sea Scrolls, but the zealot movement rose up against the Romans and the Pharisees.
They didn't file some paperwork and say, okay. Well, we're gonna just, stop financing the system. We're gonna rise up and destroy the system.
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May I make a comment about that?
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Yes, please. I'm here. I'm waiting for it.
[02:13:59] Unknown:
That was then. This is now. That was the days of muskets and black powder. Today is the day of directed energy weapons, where if you make too much noise, all they've gotta do is turn a satellite your way, and they will incinerate your house right out from underneath your butt.
[02:14:19] Unknown:
They will people still going up your car. Aren't people rising up? They
[02:14:23] Unknown:
they will. You make too much noise. You make too much noise, they will take you out. They can take over control of your automobile as long as you've got a car less than ten years old. They can take control of the computer. They can deactivate the brakes in the car, and they can lock that throttle right to the floor, and they can run you right into a bridge and button. And there is nothing you can do about it. They have all kinds of tools at their disposal to take out the people that step up.
[02:14:55] Unknown:
Hey, Greg.
[02:14:56] Unknown:
But let me ask you let me ask you this, though. Throughout history, it always the the the the the perceived power that be always had an advantage, always. This is nothing new. Yeah. They got technology. Now they have they have sophisticated weaponry throughout history. The Roman Empire did when when the when the the ragtail zealots went against them. The Shasta with Cuba. Hey, William. Current name? Yes. Go ahead.
[02:15:27] Unknown:
My mother's husband. No. He ain't my step daddy. Okay? It's my mother's husband. My my mother's my mother's husband, his house was burned to a crisp over in Altadena during those LA Fires. He Mhmm. Pardon the pardon the phrase, women. He sucked dick to the man. Okay? Mhmm. Big time. He he was a diehard Democrat. Give me crap, and he was a freaking communist in my eyes. And Mhmm. They still they still burned his house down for their aims.
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Okay? Mhmm. Okay.
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That's all I gotta say. Respect for human life.
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And they've got all kinds of toys. They dude, they could take you out any one of 200 different ways, and you'll never see it come. Larry.
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Call Larry. Listen. The same I'm trying to tell y'all.
[02:16:27] Unknown:
Paul Larry? Now we're Paul Larry. Larry. Did you know that we both changed our names?
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You're gonna be Leroy, and I'm gonna be Paul Larry.
[02:16:39] Unknown:
Good god. Yeah. We can just switch back and forth. We'll switch back and forth.
[02:16:46] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. But they've had sophisticated weaponry. Now Nat Turner would have never rose up, in in in during the civil war. I mean, prior to the civil war, actually, 1830, he would have never lived up, rose up, and had his rebel's name or John Brown leading his off right on Harpers Ferry. I mean, even but but current day, you got still people that prevailed the current day.
[02:17:09] Unknown:
John Brown was funded by the Rothschilds.
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Mhmm. Mhmm.
[02:17:14] Unknown:
Yeah. And they built and the millionaires that funded him took off to Canada right after he was caught.
[02:17:23] Unknown:
Give me that source.
[02:17:26] Unknown:
My daddy talked about it. Oh, so you can bet he's got give me the source.
[02:17:33] Unknown:
And you can bet local daddy has the source documents to back it up. Oh, I thought you said You can bet. Your daddy. I thought you my dad I said my daddy. I thought you said your daddy. My my daddy. You talked to my daddy every No. I wasn't talking shit on you. Okay. Mike Gaddy. You know.
[02:17:50] Unknown:
Oh. Mike Gaddy, you can bet, has the source documents to back up anything that he said. But let me tell you one one more difference they got. Right now, they have full control over the media
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and most of the Internet. I was just swallowing I was just swallowing when I couldn't respond to that when he said Mike Gaddy. You all, if you're gonna bring it up, you should be able to provide the source as well. Don't just start articulating and say, go go under my daddy. You should be able to tell me the source. When I'm talking to people, I'm gonna give you the source myself. I don't care what my daddy or whoever else said it. And I would be doing research to myself.
[02:18:28] Unknown:
Well, good. That's the way you do it. We're doing it all the way. Live with it.
[02:18:35] Unknown:
Fred with Fred, yeah, I gotta now I gotta go wait to talk to my daddy about something that you regurgitated. And though you don't
[02:18:43] Unknown:
He's he's he's he's gonna be on tomorrow once once the big wait. And then he's gonna be on Saturday and Sunday.
[02:18:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll be on with you one day too, but you can get
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.substack.com.
[02:18:58] Unknown:
Oh, goodness gracious. Y'all ain't reading nothing. Y'all just taking his word for it.
[02:19:02] Unknown:
No. We're not. That's what you Nope. We're not. We find we find those we find those documents too. You can look up in the national archives. You can find a lot of the stuff right online.
[02:19:13] Unknown:
I don't mind. Let me
[02:19:15] Unknown:
The document tell you how it's let me tell you how it is. Let me tell you how it is. Uh-huh. If anybody on this channel or on this broadcast, and we are still broadcasting, if anybody on this broadcast talks about or even alludes to rising up or organization in any, pseudo or particularly violent fashion. Anybody makes that suggestion out loud. They are going to be shut down in a milliseconds. We have Hear hear. A very, very short list of things that we can do. By the power.
[02:19:50] Unknown:
Who's saying is about you all? Oh,
[02:19:53] Unknown:
well, I tell you what. All of us. My question. Tell you what. You are broadcasting on my radio network. I have the responsibility for the content on that network. Hold on. My head's up. Something that I don't agree with, I will shut you down. Hold on. Hold on. Because I have the responsibility of whatever goes out over that network.
[02:20:18] Unknown:
Okay. Well, hold on. Testing. Testing. Can anybody hear me? I can hear you. Yeah. Yeah. I can hear you. My head my my one of my headsets went dead. So, I was asking, when you say that when you say whenever anybody bring that up, so you talked about you all would shut them down or did the so called towers that be would shut them down?
[02:20:41] Unknown:
I just said that this radio station is my network. I have responsibility for the content that goes out over it, and I will not allow it to be used for anybody that is even remotely suggesting rising up or organizing a assault or a organized resistance against the government. What we're about is individual responsibility, individual freedom, and making decisions that only affect the individual. Anybody that thinks that we are gonna anybody who thinks we are gonna have an armed rebellion, they might as well hang up right now. Use the number. I mean, I've been You know, that's true. I don't wanna
[02:21:29] Unknown:
Forget. Yeah. Because I Forget. I said that all the time.
[02:21:34] Unknown:
That idea can forget we exist.
[02:21:37] Unknown:
Cody used to try to do that here. Yep. We weren't having Cody.
[02:21:43] Unknown:
Cody?
[02:21:45] Unknown:
A guy named Cody.
[02:21:47] Unknown:
Yeah. And old y'all.
[02:21:49] Unknown:
Oh, crap. Alright. Well, I guess that's as good a time as any to take the radio station down, so that's exactly what I'm gonna do while, they continue to fight it out in free conference call. Thank you for joining us for this episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, including the after show, which, can, oft times, get pretty pretty heated and involved. Thank you so much for joining us. We're here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern on eurofolkradio.com, global voice radio network, home network TV, freedom nation TV, go live TV, stream life.tube, the one zero six point nine WBOU FM in Chicago, Radio Soapbox. We are literally everywhere.
For more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrixcox.com. That is thematrixd0cs.com. You can click on the new student session. You can learn all kinds of stuff and background on how to regain your freedom and take control of your life. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you right back here tomorrow for the Thursday edition of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye now. Have a great day. I can't wait until we get together and do it again. Bye. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[02:23:14] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
[02:23:23] Unknown:
Thank you for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Press 6 to mute or unmute. And if your line is locked, dial 941 to raise your hand. Welcome.
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There are 18 participants in the conference.
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You know, that's what we're about.
[02:23:40] Unknown:
Well, whoever said it, I don't I don't remember the who said the quote, but, resistance to tyranny is obedience to God, or obedience to God is resistance to tyranny. So I think in that way, yeah, it's your obedience to god is resistance to tyranny. Mhmm. And if you're obedient to god, it doesn't say to go out and, you know, he's the one that does the vengeance. Right? And if he has us on a mission, you'll know it. Stay in touch in prayer all the time. You'll know it. It was like this morning, I called you to John praying. Pardon me?
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I'll stay in touch. I ain't doing no praying.
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Why not?
[02:24:19] Unknown:
Because I don't need to that, man. That's my that's my what I do.
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Alrighty.
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You'll find out. You'll find out. I ain't looking for no I ain't looking for him like that. I'm looking for him from a rebellious standpoint. Remember, I'm a rebel.
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That's not what it says in the world. Man. You do you.
[02:24:38] Unknown:
You do you. Mhmm.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
You do you somewhere else. Right.
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Mhmm.
[02:24:47] Unknown:
Anyway, speaking of radio streams, I just got disconnected from the conference, so it was a perfect time to take the stream down. So we are no longer on the air, but we are still being recorded.
[02:25:00] Unknown:
Oh, how that work? How does that work?
[02:25:03] Unknown:
Because the computer that connects all you guys together so you can talk records every sound that goes through it.
[02:25:12] Unknown:
Oh, and this is free conference. But this is you are free. I see. I called in. So this is still this is free conference call. Right? FCC or something that that or somebody told me about yesterday?
[02:25:23] Unknown:
Yeah. It is it is free conference call, but I pay for it.
[02:25:27] Unknown:
Free for you guys.
[02:25:29] Unknown:
Yeah. It's free for you guys. It ain't free for me.
[02:25:33] Unknown:
Oh, why'd you why'd you pick up a donation or something for this? I didn't know that.
[02:25:38] Unknown:
Well, you People help me out. You can donate. People
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people help me out. I'm I'm fine.
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Okay. Are you sure? Okay.
[02:25:49] Unknown:
Oh. Paul don't go around with this handout. He just does takes care of business.
[02:25:55] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Okay.
[02:25:56] Unknown:
You know what? I came across an interesting, it's from Forbes of all things, but it's about the tariffs, which is pretty interesting. And I think this whole thing, you know, how it stirred up such a hornet's nest with the, financial markets. Right? And the whole thing is about getting people, you know, other countries to negotiate. And this is our strength. Let when we talk to each other like we're doing now, you know? This is how you, bolster your beliefs and, you know, strengthen yourself. But, in a global type of sense, it's it's what has to be done too. And, unfortunately, the Jews, you know, control the money, but not always will they.
[02:26:41] Unknown:
Well, we let them control the money.
[02:26:44] Unknown:
Well, see, this is the thing. You can take your money and give it to whoever you want.
[02:26:50] Unknown:
Right? Mhmm. We can not not participate now. Uh-huh.
[02:26:54] Unknown:
Right. Right. Take it take it and just give it as a gift. You know? It doesn't have to be anything else but a gift, and and you just forget about it. And, can be you know, you can consider it your ties. Right?
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Mhmm. Interesting.
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So here's what this more.
[02:27:17] Unknown:
Oh. I've hungrily served me, and I have some more, please.
[02:27:23] Unknown:
Some more bull? That wasn't your cat, was it?
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No.
[02:27:30] Unknown:
Yeah. So here's a few facts. If do you guys wanna hear this or not? I can just I think I think I did put I would dig it. I would love it. Go for it. I would absolutely
[02:27:39] Unknown:
I would be so I would I might even giggle.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
Just try to stop me from giggling. It's not happening. Okay. So the key facts are Trump issued a ninety day pause Wednesday, that's today, after his widespread tariffs on foreign imports from their nearly all countries fully took effect Wednesday today, which roiled the South market and led to global economic economic chaos. There will now be a 10% baseline tariff rate on imported goods, the White House said Wednesday, today, rather than the higher rates the Trump administration imposed for many countries' goods, except for China, whose imports will face a 25% tariff.
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Goodness. A hundred four a hundred four, wasn't it? 25%
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says here.
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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.
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Yeah. Tariff rate after the country imposed retaliatory tariffs against The US. K. So they're doing, you know, a little sword battle with the money. Trump had previously told reporters Monday he was not looking at issuing a blanket pause on his tariffs, but has said he's planning to negotiate with other countries to reach a deal, saying he was open to negotiations if we can make a really fair deal, a really good deal for The United States. Okay. We got more. I gotta scroll down. I've got little ladybugs in here with me too. Pretty fun. They went it over in here. So,
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oh. Jump. They bite.
[02:29:16] Unknown:
You know what? The ones that lived here before never used to, but the Asian ones have taken over where people would bring them in, you know, because they're good bug predators and other stuff. But, some look a little Yeah. Little bite. Yeah. Like, between my fingers or the back of my neck.
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Night. They feed on your butt in the middle of the night.
[02:29:35] Unknown:
No. What happens is when it's dark, they they go they either hide behind the curtains curtains or they go up in the light fixture. That's where they spent most of the winter, and I think the ones that are up there that ended up dying off then new ones hatched out from them. It's pretty interesting. So I got a lot of them. Four. White House press secretary Caroline Levitt said, Tuesday, the president directed his trade team to have tailor made trade deals with each and every country that reaches out to The US to negotiate, but it had been unclear how long they would take as treasury secretary Scott Bassett suggested to Fox Business that the negotiations with all of the countries that have approached the Trump administration means it's going to be a busy April, May, maybe into June.
The Trump administration will now negotiate with other countries during the ninety day pause, Besant said Wednesday, saying the negotiations are going to be bespoke, and they're going to take some time. Bespoke, what does that mean? I don't know. Let me see. Do we have any more facts?
[02:30:41] Unknown:
Crucial quote. Suggestion while you're looking for more facts? Yes, sir. If you have pests if you have pests, if you have unruly children, get a nanny. If you have mice, get a cat. If you have bugs, get a chicken. But
[02:31:01] Unknown:
I actually think these ladybird beetles are like a cross between pets and a science experiment. I'm kinda enjoying it. And my magnifying glass handy so I can watch their behavior. And some of them have no spots at all, and the most I've seen that counted on them is, 18. So it varies. I love you. So crucial quote here. I'm so silly. Crucial quote. Virtually every country wants to negotiate with The US over tariffs, Trump told reporters Monday. Okay. This was after Netanyahu claiming foreign countries are offering things to us that we wouldn't have even though even thought of asking them for. Offering things to us that we wouldn't have even thought of asking for.
Interesting. Negus in the different countries have offered to negotiate with Trump on tariffs.
[02:31:52] Unknown:
I don't know if you want me to call that. Nutty Yahoo. Hey, Paul. Hey. God. I love you. Nutty Yahoo. That's almost as good as, man. I'm a nut job.
[02:32:05] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Samuel Yeah. Is in here. He's he says help. I'm new. I hear no audio using data. Call is only call is the only way to hear. And I guess Andy's helping him. But, I guess, I can't hear. Who? Samuel? Yeah. Samuel says help. I'm new here. He's in the chat. Help. I'm new here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Andy's trying to help him. So Right. Andy's on it, I guess.
[02:32:36] Unknown:
Okay. I will read the thread while you guys are continuing to, hash out what you're hashing out. Myr, please continue with what you're reading.
[02:32:48] Unknown:
Well, you know, listen to different countries, but, I thought this surprising fact was interesting. Trump levied tariffs on several uninhabited islands of places with only a few residents, such as the Heard And McDonald Islands and Australian territory that's primarily inhabited by penguins. It will likely be more difficult for those nations to to reach any negotiations about lowering their tariffs down from the 10% blanket rate. Commerce secretary Howard Lutnick defended the tariffs on his country, Sunday, claiming to CBS News they were necessary or else other countries could try to use them to get around Trump's tariffs.
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Well, I just wanted to say I never confuse Merv with anybody else. She has a lovely voice and a great laugh.
[02:33:38] Unknown:
Oh, thank you, Sketch. I can be very annoying, though. Just ask Roger. You could probably ask Michael too. The other day, I I said, if Trump was in so tight, you know, with this club, why did they let him go bankrupt? You know, they don't let their buddies go bankrupt. Right? They do whatever to cover it up. You know, all these things you gotta think about, you know, how these games are played out. And, you know, why did he let himself go bankrupt? Well, it's more leverage. Actually, he's worth more, you know, to them because it's holding so much money, you know?
So, yeah, very interesting. But he's an interesting character. Mike got a little mad at me, I could tell, but he didn't wanna hear anything positive about Trump. And that's how people people are, and I don't blame him. He gets that from his grandfather that he grew up with. You know? You you're gonna you want this billionaire Yankee to be your savior? You know? I can see it. But, it can't be all you see. Alright? You ask for guidance and prayer and what you read, what you learn, and how you can peacefully accept what is. You know? I'll set up now.
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No.
[02:35:07] Unknown:
Excuse me. Can anyone hear me? I'm new. I hate to interrupt and slow take it out. We hear you. I Go for it. That's okay. Interrupt you a lot. Love you. I don't know on Wednesday. Sorry. Sorry. Was that Paul?
[02:35:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Interruptions are allowed, but only on Wednesdays. Remember that.
[02:35:28] Unknown:
Your humor is is is is refreshingly intelligent, Paul. I love it. The app that I just installed, I'm using data only because call quality was horrible. But the app, the little notification box on my phone's app has a mute, unmute selection, and I used that, which was the reason for my question because all of your instructions always say hit 6 or something. Oh, I get it now. I guess if I dialed in 6 when I'm using the app, use the little toggle button on the app window.
[02:36:08] Unknown:
That's right. Is that correct? In the upper right hand in the upper right hand corner of the app window, you'll see a red button that says leave. And right next to that, there will be a speaker that is probably grayed out. Now if you tap on that grayed out speaker and it turns white, that'll turn on your speaker phone, and then you'll actually be able to hear people through the app.
[02:36:31] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Paul. And by the way, 72. Thank you in chat. You were just trying to help me, and you were just offering help. I used it, and it didn't seem to work. And this is relative to what you were saying, Paul, the grayed out unhighlightable little speaker, I tapped it and tapped it and no activity whatsoever, which is why I'm doing this,
[02:36:55] Unknown:
calling in on the Well then well then what happened was you probably had a pop up that said, this app would like to record audio and use and access your camera. You have to say yes to those questions. It's not actually recording, but it refers to the fact that, the app having access to your microphone so you can actually talk to us, that the app refers to that as recording, but nothing is actually being recorded. Okay? So that's kind of an ambiguous stupid question. So, close the app, reboot the phone, and then the next time you run the app, when it asks you for permission, grant it. And if it doesn't ask you for permission, go into app settings permission, go to the free conference call app, and tell it to allow access to the camera and microphone.
And then you can reach out
[02:37:59] Unknown:
to be able to hear everybody. Paul, you're amazing. You said everything exactly as it happened, and that's what it did. It asked for permissions. I said no, and it it did exactly as you described. Okay. We're referring to what you just said. And if, in order to reboot and all that, I I I'm gonna cancel myself from listening to this great conversation right now. So I'll need to do that after the current, session. Is that correct?
[02:38:30] Unknown:
Okay. Well yeah. So what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have to reboot the phone and you and then try and go back in with the app. Now if you answered never allow, then it's not gonna ask you ever again. If you just said no, it might ask you again. If it doesn't ask you again, then you have to go into security settings for apps and then, turn that on for the free conference call app. And just so you don't miss anything, we'll try to be really, really boring for, like, the next five or ten minutes until you come back so you don't miss anything. Alright?
[02:39:10] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. I'm I I no. I'm not gonna do any of that because I don't wanna risk the really boring having it start back up and get really exciting. And so, no, I'll just stay like this, and I'll do it after the call is over for the day. Thank you so much, Paul. Bless you. You guys are awesome. Alright.
[02:39:27] Unknown:
Alright, Samuel. Love you, man. Welcome to the family.
[02:39:31] Unknown:
Thank you, brother. Can can I speak to can I have a a quick word with William now that I'm in here?
[02:39:39] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. By all means.
[02:39:41] Unknown:
William, you're obviously intelligent. What's the You're obviously well hey, man. Go slow. Let me get this out. I'm from North Carolina, so I'll talk slow. Please forgive me. You you talk a little fast. Okay? William William, praises and compliments and then a critique. Okay?
[02:40:02] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:40:03] Unknown:
Alright. You're obviously intelligent. You're obviously well read. However, your remember that your intellect, your knowledge base was accrued by reading and listening and understanding others. You seem to be a bit quick to interrupt and or criticize those on these calls that may be adding to you. I know you formulated opinions. However, if you open up, like when Murr was saying her things and all that, if you open up and listen, let her complete her thoughts and comments, Digest it even if it might take you five or six seconds. I know you don't like waiting. That could benefit you. And I'm sure the folks that are commenting to you will allow you to digest and then respond back with perhaps even those same questions.
But the interrupting and the cutting off, it hurts, perhaps, your betterment and certainly ours as listeners. That was it. The the the, so hopefully, you take that in a peaceful, benefit that I wanted to give to you and everyone else.
[02:41:18] Unknown:
Appreciate that. And I'd appreciate that from others as well because I have been cut off as well.
[02:41:24] Unknown:
Yeah. That is very true. And as a matter as a matter of fact, now this I would like to make this comment to everyone, everyone, everyone, even even Roger. I love Roger to death, but he can do that a bit more than is helpful too. So let us all remember that, and perhaps we can all remember that these did these platforms are not as Roger says, they're not full duplex landline phones. So the call quality is is also working against us. So we need to keep that in mind too as we speak to each other. I love you guys.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
And I thank you. I see that noise. End of comment. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I got noise in the background so hard you guys grab. I I appreciate that. That that's good information there, and I, that will, I will, agree to that and and work on that.
[02:42:19] Unknown:
May I ask And and let me and let and let me and let me say, from time to time, if I'm able to join, which may be rare, you guys might also need to remind me because I'm bursting at the seams with Milet that I wanna share with you guys too. Yeah. So I'll try to end my message now. Thanks, guys. Love you all.
[02:42:38] Unknown:
Let let me just share something. I don't know if you guys know who missus q is over at Republic Broadcasting, but she did these tours in New York City, walking tours about history. And she's like a type one personality, but the the idea she gave her is so helpful. She said that when you're speaking with someone, really listen. Listen to them. Don't just wait to say what you have to say, and don't try to be right. If you're trying to teach, it's different than trying to be right. You know? And she said, you know, I just listen like they're the only person in the world really listen.
And she said and she used to be, like, on the stocks and everything, and so she's, you know, the type one personality. So she said it's really hard for her too, but it's so you know, look them in the eye and listen to them, and it it just makes all the difference, you know? You just share complete ideas.
[02:43:35] Unknown:
I I have one other thing to, one other thing to add that might clarify. I this communication medium is not perfect, but you have to realize that when Roger's talking to all of us, he's talking to us from Ecuador. When Brent talks to us, he's talking to us from Nevada. When Murr talks to us, she's talking to us from Wisconsin. Andy's in Wisconsin too. We've got a Samuel that's out in California. We've got a Sketch that's out in Oregon. We've got, different systems. We've got free conference call. Free conference call in and of itself is cloud based. There are numerous servers that any one of us could be bouncing off of.
So not only do we have to talk to the person that we're talking to, but we have to talk from us to a server, and then that server may have to talk to another server, and then that server may have to go to a different Internet backbone, and then that Internet trunk may have to go back down to whoever we're talking to. We also have different communication mediums. We've got free conference call, and we've also got Zoom, and they're all interconnected together. I connect computer systems with a voice over IP meeting application called MiroTalk, and that is client based. It's, peer to peer.
It is decentralized. So just for me to talk to you guys, I could be going from one computer, going out to the Internet to somebody's computer in New Jersey, bouncing off of someone's computer in New York, and then coming back down to another computer that's in the same room that I'm in, and then that computer has to take my voice and it has to send it to FCC that may go to numerous servers before it even gets to you. So every single word I'm telling you is actually traveling more in a millisecond than I have driven in my entire life, and I logged a half million miles as a commercial driver in four years.
Okay? So, every millisecond is more distance than I've ever traveled in my sixty four years of existence. So there are delays that happen. There is duplexing issues. There is one app communicating with another app just for me to be able to talk to William, just for Larry to be able to talk to William, just for William to be able to misunderstand who he's talking to, either Paul Polari or La Paul. And it takes time for this stuff to happen. So if you, if you catch a break or somebody stopping to take a breath, like I just did, that breath probably happened two seconds before you heard it. So when you jump in, you're actually starting to talk in between my next thought. So I'm not rude for not stopping.
You're not rude for interrupting. There's a delay. This ain't a phone. So calm down. Relax. Yeah. Have some dip. That's it's all good. Some air.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
Breathe deep. Thank you so much, Paul. This is Samuel, North Carolina. Can I ask a a question of you, Paul, with regard to this whole how we can better, speak and be heard with each other here?
[02:47:05] Unknown:
Are you going to expect an intelligent answer?
[02:47:09] Unknown:
Because I don't from you. Whatever answer I get will will be beneficial. I'm not a very bright guy, so I don't know how many intelligent answers I have left. So, anyway, we'll give it a shot. Okay. Well, even if you're dumb as a rock on this stuff here, you sound like a freaking Einstein to me. Quick question. Am I joining you guys through the app right now or on a phone call? Because I have both of those windows on my screen. They appear to be going, and I don't know which method I'm coming through on. Can you tell Give me just give me just one second.
[02:47:46] Unknown:
Give me just one second. Okay. Now
[02:47:49] Unknown:
say something. Take all the time you need. I'm I'm sure you have enough to do without my little a new naive new questions. So take all the time you need, and I'm I guess I'm still in dead air as you do it.
[02:48:03] Unknown:
It says you're it says you're connected by telephone, but it okay. So what it appears like is that you have the app running, but when you connected to the room with the app, you said dial in via phone. So what it did was it created an app connection and a phone connection, and then it merged the two into one. So you're you're actually in on the phone. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you're gonna have to reboot your phone and start over because, really, all you need is the app. Yeah.
[02:48:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Can I can I briefly tell you what happened? And I mean, like, thirty, forty five seconds or less. Go for it. The the phone call quality is so muffled and and almost hazy that I ended that connection and tried to go through the app, but then that's when the speaker not the highlightable thing happened, and I got no sound coming into my headset, And I I assumed no sound going out, so I stopped it. And, I got out of the app, tried to go back in, the same problem, and it kept showing flashing an icon as if it wanted a headset. So I put in the headset and tried to do it, and nothing happened until I actually pressed dial in. So maybe it just left me in through the app, but the only way the connection went through is, as you just said, with the phone call. And I can tell you're correct because of the call quality. The audio quality that I'm hearing is is hazy, fuzzy, muffled, which I do not like at all. I like the because I generally listen to you guys on on, Podholm, and it's wonderful audio.
[02:49:54] Unknown:
Well, of course. Of course. Because, you're getting it straight from the backbone of of, like, a very, very, very high quality, high techno high technological computer type system, and it's going straight out to the Internet in HD. But if you're called in by phone, yeah, you're just you're just connected with free conference call and it's, you know, and it's fuzzy and hazy and all that stuff. So, I don't know. Would it be any better if I if I, like, made my voice sound different so you could so it wasn't, like, so fuzzy or hazy? Or do you want me back, like, down here, like, all radio station cool and groovy and stuff?
[02:50:35] Unknown:
You know? Because I'm I'm all I'm all about helping
[02:50:39] Unknown:
you. That's it. Okay, miss okay, smart guy. We we know you're with this, but what I'm really what I'm really hoping to accomplish here is, Paul, if you or someone can tell me how I can get good quality, not necessarily as good as just listening on the POD home, but good quality, and be able to participate like I'm doing now, you know, audio with you guys, because I'm horrible with chat. I got a broken thumb, thumb, and it it just don't work too good for me. Okay. Well, I think,
[02:51:14] Unknown:
I think that once we get you connected with the app, that both inbound and outbound quality is going to improve, because there there is a dynamic range and, frequency limitations on telephone calls. It just simply won't exist once you get the app working right. So, if we can help you get that taken care of so we can get you in here so you can not only see the chat and, you know, make note of, like, the valuable links they kept putting in the chat all the way during the show and through the after show and all that stuff. As long as we can get to a point where we can help you in the app and you can hear everybody, I think your time here will be much more enjoyable.
Okay? Okay.
[02:52:04] Unknown:
Alright. And that would be after this session is over, I, restart my phone and then go into the app.
[02:52:11] Unknown:
Well, dude, if you're waiting for this session to be over, you may be last night or rather this morning, this session didn't end until 02:21AM eastern time. So if you're if you're waiting for this discussion to end so you could reboot, you might be waiting for a little while. So I'm just saying. We'd we'd be happy to, like, sit here and twiddle our thumbs and, like, talk about boring shit for five minutes to give you a chance to do that, you know, we'd be happy to do that for you. Yeah. No. Because I I don't know. Nobody's doing anything enjoyable. Not for the next five minutes.
[02:52:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:52:51] Unknown:
Okay. So yeah. So, after you and I finish our little, back and forth here, and I'll let everybody else resume the conversation, so then, close out all my apps, restart the phone, and then go back in through the FCC app. Is that what you're saying? Could, fix my speaker button, highlightable problem as well as maybe audio?
[02:53:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Hopefully, it'll ask you for permission to use the, microphone camera. Hopefully, it'll ask you permission. If it does, that's good. Just grant it, and then come on in. So Okay. But if it doesn't, just go into the settings, the app. Just go into the app security settings for the microphone and camera and then tell it, to grant it the the permission only when using the app. Mhmm. Don't don't grant it permission all the time. Just only when using the app. Right. Okay.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
Alright. Alright. And as I leave, I'll I'll open up a can that maybe would help everyone to resume to the fantastic conversation after you do the boring shit for the next five minutes. So here's it. Here it is. You ready?
[02:54:06] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:54:09] Unknown:
Alright. So I'm finishing up my Samuel's a dummy, don't know how to use a smartphone thing, and I'm gonna ask you a question similar, but more so into us being nationals state. Here we here you go. Buckle up. With Google and the freaking powers that should not be all into our business and us allowing these permissions on apps whenever we must and must not, that sort of thing. As nationals, though, aren't we in some ways or perhaps even a great extent, aren't we, still not really botherable by them because we're nationals as opposed to US citizens? You're right. You're right. Because those those those rules,
[02:54:56] Unknown:
those rules, those penalties, those infractions would be enforced using administrative procedure. We're not administrative anymore because God is not administrative. He is all powerful.
[02:55:12] Unknown:
That is correct. That is correct. And, okay. Now I'm gonna be a liar. I said that was my last thing, and I'm a leave. Let me just put this little nugget out there for you to know on. In five minutes, I have to reboot my shit. Okay? A lot of the pro problems, it's it seems to me, and I've got a couple of IQ points to play with here. It seems to me that as nationals and not US citizens, we are outside of the jurisdiction of the the the the fourth branch of government, the administrative state, we are under the the three branches. So then for these traffic ticket BSs and all the other BSs, and it seems that the only way those US citizens and other US persons are going to listen to us is if we slap them upside the head with litigation.
And I know Roger hates that. Stay out of court, and I know their policies and procedures and things that they want to make you adhere to. But as a this may not be the right term, as a pro se litigant, they are to aid us in steps and procedures. They are not to hold that against us. They are to use our substance and intent rather than form and and procedure as we are free and not under their administrative jurisdiction. So how about that fore bone that you are? And, damn it, I know you wanna know on it right now, but I gotta reboot my stuff, guys.
[02:56:57] Unknown:
Okay. Reboot. Cayden. Right back here. Wait. What what who's your what's your name? This is Annette.
[02:57:03] Unknown:
Samuel.
[02:57:04] Unknown:
Samuel? Samuel? And I'm the North Carolina Samuel, not the California Samuel.
[02:57:09] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Thank you. I yield.
[02:57:12] Unknown:
Hi, Annette. Are are you the the young African American lady that's in, South America with Roger?
[02:57:20] Unknown:
Oh, no. No. I'm not.
[02:57:22] Unknown:
That's Joan.
[02:57:25] Unknown:
I forgot her name. She's like Mississippi
[02:57:27] Unknown:
mama or whatever. Mississippi mama. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
[02:57:33] Unknown:
She has a connection. Question.
[02:57:35] Unknown:
No. No.
[02:57:37] Unknown:
Actually, lots people asking that. No. I'm in Texas.
[02:57:41] Unknown:
Okay. Hi. Do you see that? Do you see how many miles we put on every word? You see that? You see that? Yeah. Anyway, no. Samuel Yeah. I I Just because you I've been listening for
[02:57:53] Unknown:
I've been listening for almost two years. I just never, got the the gumption to get into the smartphone and all this app mess business stuff. It's enough to get straight with the the dot and i's and crossing t's of the BS government and being a national. I just, you know, had enough to do without messing with this smartphone business. So forgive me, guys. I've I've been wanting to jump in here dozens and dozens of times, especially when Roger was saying nobody has anything to say. I have bunches to say.
[02:58:27] Unknown:
Okay. Well, welcome welcome to the group. Welcome to the group. But I I am good. I I I do feel it it is my duty to inform you that because your name is Samuel, you're gonna have to bone up on Lee Brobst and Melvin Stamper, because we'll be expecting regular reports.
[02:58:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. And I hear California Samuel all the time. I'm familiar with Stamper. Ashley, he was one of the the little dots that I was picking up as I was connecting into, Roger and his methods. So I'm familiar with Stamper. The other guy did you say, Lee Probst?
[02:59:07] Unknown:
Probst, b r o b s t. And, and I I was just I was just getting I was just getting around. California's California, Samuel, if you're here, I love you, man. I just picked it. Yeah. Okay. Reboot your stuff.
[02:59:26] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Roger. Roger, Paul. Thank you. And 70 2, thank you for the the help you're trying to give me in chat. But as I said, with this this nonfunctioning thumb, it's it's not a great way for me to communicate. Alright. I'm rebooting now. Love you guys. Bye. Hope to see you in five or ten.
[02:59:46] Unknown:
Alright, Bernard.
[02:59:47] Unknown:
Quick question for you, Paul, and maybe this will help the group. If you've not yet gotten your passport card, I have, but if you've not yet gotten it, if you keep a copy of that, affidavit on your person on your in your possession, and if you are facing some alleged law enforcement person and presenting that affidavit, could that help you until you actually get this the the little passport card or whatever kind of identification that alleged official will acknowledge and accept?
[03:00:29] Unknown:
What I would do, like, with, you talking about a specific example of where a CO pulls you over. You know, code enforcement officer pulls you over interrupts your day. Sure. First thing I would do is I would say, let me ask you before we begin. Let me ask you, is your body camera on? Is this exchange being recorded? And when the cop says yes, you say, okay. I'm I'm just putting you on notice that any information that I give you is not a waiver of my fifteenth my my fifth amendment right to remain silent and is not an offer to engage in commerce or evidence that I am engaged in commerce.
It's purely for identification purposes only. And then you could just go on with the go on with the exchange. Just let the cop know that you're not you're not operating commercially and that you're, that you do not consent to engage in commerce with him and that you, stand on your right to remain silent and then shut your mouth. That's it. Whatever he does, then you deal with it administratively after the fact. And that is if you've got all of your local or local agencies on notice. If you've got them all on notice and everybody knows what your political status is and they docket the case anyway, then you have the grounds to bring a civil suit against them for, title 18 violations violating your rights under color of law. You're not charging them with title title 18. You're filing a civil suit for damages that they did violate your rights.
So then you become the plaintiff. They become the defendant.
[03:02:25] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I like that. That to me is icing on the cake because I kinda do what I wanna do, reasonably and safely and with respect of the rights of others always. Now I've had my passport card for, I guess, almost two years, maybe right around two years now. So, I was just asking, as I said, just another little tidbit, tool in your belt and for perhaps the benefit of others who may not yet have their passport card in their possession when they're accosted by the CO. Okay. Now getting back to me specifically, if I'm stopped or attempted to be accosted, let me ask your opinion on this. One of the first things, I am thinking to say, and I got it from you guys maybe four or five months ago, a caller in said, before this encounter proceeds, I would like to inform you that I am a nonresident alien.
I'm not a US citizen or US person of any kind. And then if he wants to continue to ask for ID then present the passport card and then let him do his little computer thing and verify that, I'm not a US citizen. But my I'm a little afraid
[03:03:52] Unknown:
That might piss him off. Really? That might piss that might piss him off. What I would do is I would ask the cop, is this a traffic stop? Because traffic is a commercial term. Then, if he says yes, you say, okay. Are you aware that traffic is a commercial activity? Are you attempting to engage me in commerce? And if he says no So then you just say, then this can't be a traffic stop. Am I free to go? Or do you wish to engage in commerce? If so, I have a fee schedule on what that engagement will cost you. And, personally, I have a copy of my affidavit and my fee schedule taped to the inside of the left rear window of my little Chevy Cruze, and I have been pulled over three times in the last six months. All three cops have seen my affidavit and my fee schedule on the window, and every single one of them handed me my driver's license, my commercial class a driver's license back to me and said, have a nice day.
[03:05:01] Unknown:
That's fantastic. And I am delighted that you brought up fee schedule. I was listening to another guy who mentioned fee schedule, and I looked into it. And I rather than and here's my question for you. Rather than list this thing, this price, this thing, this fee, this thing, this fee, this thing, this fee, what do you think about this? I've got a little a little memo sheet that I've laminated and I keep in my pocket, and it says this. Do not infringe upon my rights. Any infringement of my rights shall incur a fee of not less than $10,000 per infringement without reservation, and other fines, fees, or penalties may apply according to my satisfaction and for other purposes.
Yeah. That's Would that cover the fact that if he really pisses me off, I can charge him a hundred thousand, or must I say this, or must I itemize it like your fee schedule does? With my general not less than and other fines and fees, would that cover me, or would you think it'd be better to itemize it that item by item like your fee schedule?
[03:06:15] Unknown:
Well, I have you seen my fee schedule?
[03:06:18] Unknown:
No. But I've seen Joe Lustica's, and I I'm thinking yours is along those lines maybe.
[03:06:24] Unknown:
Okay. Do you have a computer?
[03:06:30] Unknown:
Yes. I've got a laptop in a box that I haven't used in a couple of months.
[03:06:35] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, if you can go to a web address, go to notice. Go to a web address.
[03:06:48] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:06:48] Unknown:
Go to notice.paulbiener, p a u l b I e n e r Com. That is my agency cover letter, my affidavit, and my fee schedule is page three. Now I do have I do have some things where the fee is actually set, and then I have other things where the fee is set to be determined by injured party. And then in the paragraph at the bottom of the fee schedule, I say that the fees can be modified or waived at any time without notice. So if the cop is a real asshole and I wanna charge him a hundred and 50 g's for violating my rights instead of, like, 10 g's just to teach him a lesson, I can do that because he's agreed to that by reading that paragraph.
[03:07:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:07:51] Unknown:
So did you pull that did you pull that schedule up yet?
[03:07:55] Unknown:
I think, no. I'm not, I've I opened my calendar and just, I put the note on I'd like to take notes when I'm talking to you guys. I did it like that. Okay.
[03:08:09] Unknown:
Alright. So here, let me let me either quickly read the paragraph. Nuggets.
[03:08:16] Unknown:
Let me let me very quickly read that paragraph to you that's at the bottom. I'll tell you. Why don't you do the I'm gonna try to pull it up.
[03:08:29] Unknown:
Otris dot paul viner dot com. There we go. Okay. Page three. The fee schedule has, specifically listed, violations title 18 USC section two forty two, violations section two forty one, violation of any US code resulting in loss, harm, or injury, violation of treaty or international law resulting in loss, harm, or injury, trespass, armed, trespass, unarmed.
[03:09:08] Unknown:
I'm there now, Paul, with page
[03:09:11] Unknown:
page three. Okay. No. Page three.
[03:09:13] Unknown:
Okay. Oh, wow. It comes in as a PDF. So I can k. Where you want me to zoom in to?
[03:09:21] Unknown:
Well, I've got the prohibited actions on the left. Uh-huh. And I've got the fees, the associated fees on the right. And then at the bottom, read that paragraph
[03:09:34] Unknown:
at the bottom. Yeah. That's this is what I like. This is the self executing contract, the commission of any prohibited actions, or knowingly failing to act to prevent the commission of any prohibited action represents agreement to the terms and fees of this document in its entirety. All persons, principals, agents, I love it. Foundations, associations, members, and entities committing, at my eyes are not the greatest. Conspiring to commit or failing to act to prevent the commission of one or more prohibited actions, and I'm zooming in and zooming out to get it all in as I turn my phone sideways.
Do accept and agree to pay the associated fees for commission of each for commission of such prohibited action. These are my eyes again, collectible immediately upon demand through payment and lawful money, lien levy, garnishment, servitude. Oh, wow. Servitude and seizure. The instruments, payments, and property shall be received and invalid in sole discretion of and the termination of the receiver. The fees, damages, and values are set at the best appropriate value in the sole determination of the author slash presenter, the last server of this document, the author slash presenter slash server of this document, or there's the right to waive or modify the amount at any time without notice. This document is not negotiable nor not negotiable nor rebuttable.
The only way to avoid immediate execution of it of this document is to not violate permit violation of, or conspire to violate any part of it. I like it. I like it a lot. Pretty much locks them up, doesn't it? It does. It does. And it brings to mind something I had thought about many months ago. Must I put in there this is a self executing contract, or does the due process concept, which means notice and right to be heard, does that automatically kinda lock them in considering the fact that they're trying to operate administratively anyway?
[03:11:52] Unknown:
Well, you gave them notice by the fact that they saw it, and you also told them that the only way you're gonna hear them is if they don't violate the terms of the agreement. You don't agree to it. If you don't agree to the agreement, then don't perform any commit any prohibited action. Right. There's there's the notice and the right to be heard. It's more like notice and the remite and and the right to bug the hell off.
[03:12:23] Unknown:
Well, in their administrative state, they deem silence as consent. So my question is, rather than putting this as a self executing contract and, you know, locking them in that way, does their administrative state and the notice and right to be heard and silence deeming consent, doesn't the fact that I notify them or I give them notice and they don't rebut that notice, doesn't that mean they consented to it, and doesn't that kind of execute the contract then without me having to explicitly say this is a self executing contract?
[03:13:06] Unknown:
I guess it would, but, it's, six words, and I think they have value.
[03:13:16] Unknown:
You're right. Because I heard I heard Mark say when I'm dealing with a government employee, why give him any room for doubt? Why do I lock it in and make it blatantly clear to just put it in their eyeballs? I got you. You're right. Six words. So that was that was a very skillful and intellectual way to say, Samuel, don't be an asshole. It's just six words. Put it in there.
[03:13:42] Unknown:
I love it, man. I love it. Would never say something like that to your face, honestly. It's Well,
[03:13:48] Unknown:
Paul, Beno, I freaking love you, man. You you you're and you're modestly to intellect. I love it. I love it. I love it. That that's one thing I think people don't like Iron Man because perhaps he's intellectual, but he likes to try to slap you in the face with it, and nobody likes that. Right. You might tell I can have an IQ point or two myself, but slapping people in the face with it, it it doesn't engender friendship.
[03:14:15] Unknown:
Right. Well, you know you know why people like to call him slinky. Right? Who? Ironman? They call him slinky? Yeah. People like to call him slinky because because slinkys are very simple, and there's not much to them, but they still bring a smile to your face when they're pushed down the stairs.
[03:14:35] Unknown:
Oh, that is sweet. I love
[03:14:39] Unknown:
it. I got I got that one from one of our, lionesses, Linda or Lisa. Lisa. Lynch. Yeah. She came up with that.
[03:14:48] Unknown:
I I don't know if I've heard her. You know who I love? Lady Linda Louise. Man, I love to hear her talk. She sounds wonderful, and she's knowledgeable and intelligent and polite and kind and informed.
[03:15:05] Unknown:
Yeah. But she still brought us Ferris. She still brought us Ferris. I think she's still working to get to to make up for that. She brought us Ferris. She brought us Ferris, the single most irritating,
[03:15:20] Unknown:
interrupting, disruptive person on the face of the planet. She brought him here. Okay. Here's how you deal with that, Paul. There's no such thing as a free lunch. All the wonderful lunches and desserts and treats and smile that Lady Linda Louise brings you can't be free. So that's the price you pay. It's the small price.
[03:15:43] Unknown:
There's no such thing as a free ride. Small price to pay. I like to think of I like to think of it as the only free ride is the rotation of the Earth and the flat Earth are screwed that up. Oh, don't get me started on a flat Earth BS.
[03:15:57] Unknown:
Wow.
[03:15:59] Unknown:
And yet they're they're too smart to realize
[03:16:03] Unknown:
They're they're too smart to realize it's a. Or they're freaking agents in the. I don't know. But wow. I don't know.
[03:16:12] Unknown:
Okay. I need to step away for a minute because I've gotta get a cup of coffee and get rid of the last one. I'll be back. So you guys knock yourselves out.
[03:16:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I gotta take some vitamins and eat, so I'm out too. But I love listening, man. And, Paul, thanks again so much for helping this, this Luddite get in here with some good audio. Thank you, brother. You're quite welcome. Mhmm. Alright. Have a good day.
[03:16:40] Unknown:
Sounds like the talkative one Saul went over to weapons Wednesday.
[03:16:46] Unknown:
What is weapons Wednesday?
[03:16:48] Unknown:
It's, Mark Kornke has a radio program, at five eastern on, libertytreeradio.4mg.com, and he talks about, like, all things, preparation and stuff like that. Hang on. I gotta grab something out of the microwave. Don't judge me.
[03:17:30] Unknown:
Oh, man. Oh, that's beautiful. Anonymous, if I ask you a question, will you answer, please? This is Samuel of North Carolina. I guess if you don't wanna answer, maybe you can chat it up. That'll help me better learn the app as well. Talking to you. You can respond with the chat even if you say go fly tight or something just to let me know you heard me, and I'm not just talking to this device in my hand. Anonymous, are you an agent of the man just listening to us to take notes and report back to your superiors? You can even reply to that in chat as well. Just don't like being ignored.
My time is as valuable as yours. Well, I expect I respect your right to privacy, so there you go. That anonymous is probably Jerry's second link. Jerry's second line? Jerry. Jerry? Sherry, generally, comes in on two devices. One of them will show up as Sherry, and the other one will be anonymous. Oh, okay. Yeah. I know Sherry. She she comes in super loud and super clear, and it it I I think it rubs people the wrong way because she got jumped on one day when she was just trying to participate and share her opinion, but it was super loud. So I think that the loudness may have bothered people more than what she was actually saying. It it it was a bit it was a bit, off putting, but I I like Sherry. I like her opinions and her thoughts from us. She's a good girl. You were muffled a bit, Jimmy.
[03:19:15] Unknown:
She makes me say nice crack. She's a good girl. Yep. She's a good girl, but she makes my speakers crack.
[03:19:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Someone need to have a little coaching session with her like you did with me, Paul, on how to modulate that microphone volume she's using. There's nothing she can do about it. Yeah. She she definitely over modulates.
[03:19:35] Unknown:
Yeah. And there's and that's out of her control because that is about now? That is that is, ma'am, very good. Sherry. How are you?
[03:19:43] Unknown:
I'm well. I'm on my laptop. The last time that incident happened. I was on my phone, but you know the very next day I came in on my phone No problem. It was weird
[03:19:55] Unknown:
Yeah, I was I was there surely I remember that and that was weird and I, I just really felt bad for you that people seemed to be jumping on you because your volume It was way too loud, but I I jumping on you because your volume it was way too loud. But I I I think that might have bothered them more than what you were actually trying to say or your participation. I think the volume made let's say your comment might have bothered them on a scale of one to 10. Maybe your comment might have bothered them a four and a half. But the fact that it came in so loud, it made it like a seven and a half on the bothering them scale.
But that's just that's just my two that's just my 2¢ opinion.
[03:20:33] Unknown:
Once she's when she's super loud, it's beyond her control, but she still makes my speakers crack and squirrels in my front yard go, what the hell was that?
[03:20:46] Unknown:
So
[03:20:48] Unknown:
but but it's out of her control. It's it it is managed by the phone carrier, by either her phone provider or by free conference call or whatever.
[03:21:00] Unknown:
It is out of her control. So you know what? You might wanna send text to port a little notice saying you're infringing upon my enjoyment and my right. And, you might wanna do something about that because I'm paying you money and you are not giving me the quality of service that I am expecting with my payment. Would you like to provide me service without payment until you correct this problem? That might get somebody's attention.
[03:21:32] Unknown:
Except for the terms of service where you agree that the quality of the service as provided is sufficient or you can go elsewhere.
[03:21:41] Unknown:
Well, maybe she can put something in there to say that that was not fully disclosed to my complete informed understanding and consent. So those terms do not apply here at the time the document was executed.
[03:21:56] Unknown:
They make you click a little checkbox that you have read and understand the terms and conditions. If you lied to them and didn't really read them, that's not their problem.
[03:22:06] Unknown:
I checked this box under duress. I was not afforded this service without checking that box, and the sales rep wanted me in and out in ten minutes. She didn't wanna wait the three hours for me to go through this document thoroughly. That was the rest. How about them apples?
[03:22:23] Unknown:
I'm thinking there's gotta be something else that I can do that would be less confusing than continue this conversation.
[03:22:33] Unknown:
So that would am I doing that to you, Paul? No. I mean, I I go ahead. I'm sorry. I I would like to not do that to you, so let me know so I can stop. I would
[03:22:45] Unknown:
I would I would think that the terms and conditions are there just to give you an opportunity to make the decision whether or not you wanna use their service. And if you choose to use their service, you get what you pay for, shut the hell up kind of a thing. So, there is no nondisclosure because they say it right there in the terms and conditions that you agree that the the service presented is sufficient for the for the fee charged, and, your, only recourse is to cancel your subscription and go somewhere else. Mhmm. Okay. They got that covered. Mhmm.
[03:23:27] Unknown:
Well, what about this approach then? Listen, guys. I love you, but if you love me as a customer, would you want me to go somewhere else? So maybe you could do a little something to help with my audio here so that you can keep me as a customer. Maybe come in with a little delicate rather than the firm approach that I mentioned a minute ago. Rather than just I don't think they would really like it if you just set up and go and give you money somewhere else. They might like to keep your money in the message.
[03:24:02] Unknown:
Okay. Now
[03:24:04] Unknown:
Still There's a lot of things. There's a lot of How's it now? There's a lot of things. There's,
[03:24:10] Unknown:
problems with services and stuff like that. In order to address those problems, they would have to turn a development team loose on not only rewriting the server side software, but also rewriting the client side software, which would cause a whole lot of, development money being spent to correct an issue and a whole lot of server space and bandwidth for people to download the updated copies of software, the remote client software. Now if their service is $2,500 a year and they've got a couple of dozen people that are saying, screw you. We're going somewhere else. That might be motivation for them to look into it, but, most conference systems are, like, $10 a month. And, sure, I've got four different numbers, four different conferences, and I pay that $10 4 times.
That's still not enough money to motivate them to, spend tens of thousands of dollars in development and rolling out a new version.
[03:25:24] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sorry. I was thinking it was, you know, like her cell phone or something like that. I didn't know if she was using, like, a free like a like an app through her computer thing or whatever.
[03:25:38] Unknown:
She's using the same app you're using to talk to us. It's a free conference call, not her phone. And when she uses
[03:25:46] Unknown:
when she when she's participating, she's using free conference call on her smartphone or on her computer?
[03:25:55] Unknown:
And she connects by computer, smartphone, or landline. Sometimes she's super loud, sometimes she's not. There's just nothing we can do about it. Oh. So when she is super loud, our responsibility is to let her know that she's super loud so she can either back, back away from the phone, keep her voice down, or, connect to the room using a different device because she has three that are capable of doing it. That Okay. That's our obligation. Sherry, you're really loud. Your my cat is hiding under the bed.
[03:26:34] Unknown:
I'm still loud right now?
[03:26:37] Unknown:
No. No. As an example. Oh, okay. I got you. I'm I'm sorry. I walked back in a room and you all are still having this conversation. I didn't understand why. Anyway,
[03:26:49] Unknown:
I yield.
[03:26:53] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's trying to figure out a way that you can actually sue your provider,
[03:26:58] Unknown:
your cell phone provider, forcing them to give you better service.
[03:27:03] Unknown:
Paul? Yeah. You know that getting we need a serving government to do that. I yield.
[03:27:09] Unknown:
You know that whiteout tape? We need some microprint to have our terms of service and just put it on the agreement in microprint. I know. It's a stretch.
[03:27:24] Unknown:
Yeah, Paul. I was thinking it was her particular cell phone. I don't you know, I because I'm new to this. I didn't know if she was calling in, you know, directly on her cell phone into some line into your equipment that processes and puts this all together as the radio show or if she was going through the the exact same way that I'm doing. And the reason I was thinking that with is because none of the other participants in the room seemed to be as as as boom bactically loud as hers. So, that was why I was, you know, offering that. And,
[03:28:04] Unknown:
yeah. Right. Well, she's quite I thought she'd be she's quite loud. She's quite loud, very present, but she's not loud to the point where she's making my speakers crack. So it's all good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that's weird. We're all going in on our smartphones
[03:28:20] Unknown:
through the freak the FCC app going into the same room, and hers comes in really, really loud like that.
[03:28:28] Unknown:
That's Yeah. But we're using multiple servers because FCC is cloud based, and they have servers in in multiple states and multiple countries.
[03:28:38] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It's still a little odd. Yep. We love you, Sherry.
[03:28:48] Unknown:
Just wait until Doge gets their hands on free conference call. You don't need 50 servers.
[03:28:55] Unknown:
Now, would you mind sharing just the the bullet points on Doge? Because I really don't like watching news and keeping up that stuff anymore, especially since I'm free. And, and I don't mind, you know, sending a notice of default of litigation is impending if you don't, leave me alone. So tell me what what's what's those? And you don't have to give me the Britannica version, but, I'm not afraid of that either if if you're up for it. I know it's Elon Doge
[03:29:34] Unknown:
Doge is the Department of Government Efficiency that, Trump created that Elon Musk and other people are volunteering their time to go through, different, government agencies looking for waste and wasteful spending. They're the ones that found, oh, 2,100,000 people on, Social Security that are over 29 years old.
[03:30:03] Unknown:
I'd like to make a comment on Doge. They are volunteering their time so they can get the databases out of the government and privatize it for private government services. They're moving away from civil servants to privatization. That's my take on it.
[03:30:24] Unknown:
I guess that's possible. What, what Trump was talking about with the Department of Education is doing away with it and returning the responsibility for education to the, several states, and the, it's the states that fund their schools with property taxes and bond initiatives. So if the states are funding their own schools, why can't the states make the education decisions for their schools? Does the federal government really need to be involved?
[03:30:58] Unknown:
Oh, I I'm all for what you just said. But just think of all the data they they can scrape up and use when they wanna control, privately. They're not gonna let let the government lose control. They're just gonna privatize it. That's my thing. And you go into the bond issues in the state with the school, boy, that's a that's that's a a sticky wicket if you read and understand what, Mockingbird Properties is exposing in Texas.
[03:31:34] Unknown:
Right. Well, they're the states have wasteful spending too. I guess they're they're starting with the federal government, and then the states, if they know what's good for them, will follow suit and will find their own wasteful spending. Otherwise, people are just gonna start moving out of their state and paying property taxes and stuff like that. I mean, there are there are entire townships. There are like our villages, cities in this country where, the property taxes got too high and employment unemployment numbers got too high, the people just moved out. They moved away.
And now those cities are ghost towns, and they don't they no longer have the revenue to even run the city as as badly as they were running it before. So I think states are gonna get the message that people are tired of wasteful spending and overreaches of government and that they'd better start towing the line or they're gonna have a whole lot of angry natives. Neighbors getting uppity. Uppity, neighbors. Like me getting uppity about my Zippo lighter that don't work where the tether's damn. K, guys. I gotta step away for a bit. Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
Introduction and Book Discussion
Historical Reflections on Secession Hill
Black Slave Owners in History
Marriage and Legal Contracts
Government and Personal Freedom
Tariffs and Economic Policies
Historical Taxation and Income Tax
Communism and American History
Land Ownership and Property Rights
Conspiracy Theories and Historical Events
National Status and Legal Rights
Technical Issues and Communication Challenges