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Welcome back to another episode of Paul English Live on WBN. It's Thursday, February 20, 2025, and we're diving into a theme that's a bit "common law-y." This week, we're back to our usual format with myself, Patrick, and Eric von Essex. Unfortunately, Paul won't be joining us due to some icy guttering issues at his place. We wish him luck with that!

We kick off the show with a discussion about the weather in Wisconsin, where Patrick reports a warming trend despite recent frigid temperatures. This leads to a humorous exchange about thermal underwear and school pranks involving Daymart Thermolactyl catalogs.

Our conversation takes a serious turn as we delve into the topic of common law and the power of juries. We explore the historical significance of trial by jury and its potential to challenge unjust legislation. This leads to a broader discussion about the current political climate, the role of media, and the influence of global powers.

We also touch on historical events, including the Vietnam War and the bombing of Dresden, questioning the narratives we've been told. The conversation shifts to the current geopolitical tensions involving Russia and Ukraine, with reflections on the motivations behind these conflicts.

As we wrap up the first hour, we reflect on the importance of understanding history and law to empower individuals and communities. Join us for the second hour as we continue to explore these themes and more.

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I'll I'll try and pop some music into Telegram, Paul.  

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Yeah. Cool.   Alright. Let's, bring the sound up.  

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Trouble is something we got too much of. Try to find something new.   Rivers and rainbows, god's creations   out there waiting for you.   Get up on your feet, get them to move, or take a holiday from the blues.   Swim in the river, fly over the rainbow. What have you got to lose? Take a look around here.  

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Well, hello, everyone, and, welcome back. It's Thursday, the,   February 20. February, look at that flying by. Thursday, February.   This is Paul English Live. We're on WBN for the next couple of hours. Welcome to the show.   And tonight's theme is going to be a bit common law y,   and that's not really a proper phrase at all. But we're gonna start off looking at, well, a bit of the old law stuff.   Oh, hi, everyone, and welcome back. It is, as I said, Thursday, February   2025.   That means we've got, what,   mere eight days left in this month. Of course, that means one more show this month, which will be, of course,   next Thursday on the twenty seventh.  

So that'll be the last show of February. It seems to have been a lightning fast month already, to be quite honest.   Absolutely flown by.   And in, slight contrast to last week's show where we were rammed to the gunnels here in the studio with all these guests and everybody, and, it made for a really great conversation, by the way. We're back to our kind of more usual format this week. This myself and, Patrick is here as is Eric von Essex.   And, we just heard from Paul,   who pops in from time to time. Paul's   picking up the show and sending it elsewhere, but I think we better start off with news about Paul first. He he probably won't be joining us in the show because he's,   he was telling us this actually, back in the last week. His, his guttering shot to pieces. It's actually swollen with huge quantities of ice that have slid off the roof. And I believe right now, he's actually out there freezing off his proverbials,   hacking away at all that kind of stuff, trying to get it get it down. So I will, of course, have half or a small part of my mind thinking about him floating around on some ladders today.  

It's the I forgot where he is. He's on Eastern time, so it's just gone 03:00 out there wherever he is. He still got some sunlight. And, hopefully, he's successful and doesn't come back all frostbitten or whatever. I have no idea what the temperatures are at the moment there. But, good luck, Paul, and good luck to all the people that support you with your guttering work and your ice removal work. And, if he does stop by later on, at least we'll know exactly what happened. So, anyway, there we go.   I'm gonna introduce everybody else here in the room. Patrick, good evening. What's it like in wonderful Wisconsin? Hi. Oh, it's nice. It's warming up here. It's not too bad.  



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Snow on the ground,   but I think it's gonna get warmer here this next week compared to last week where yesterday, we had negative 25 Celsius.   And it's, you know, it's it's warmed up   a bit, I think. I don't know. I'd have to look at the   the weather. Negative seven. That's what we've got. So   not too bad we're getting there. Barmy.  

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Possibly boiling. Wisconsin heatwave.   Oh, I can't even comprehend temperatures like that. Well, I can, I suppose? I'm struggling mightily, though. It's not that bad. I don't think it's just to bundle up.   Yeah. Alright.   Lots of jumpers and Get your fur coat and your fur hat and your boots. Yeah. And your Russian boots and your Russian hat. Uh-huh. I would probably   I would probably get my thermolactic underwear out. I suppose it would be known as long johns. Yep. Long johns. Thermal long underwear  

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and your style.  

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Eric might well, Eric might not know about this, really. But during the nineteen seventies at school, Patrick, here in Jolly old England,   my schoolmates thought it was extremely amusing. I don't know why they thought it was amusing,   to enroll me as a a mail order customer of the Daymart Thermolactyl,   underwear company here in The UK.   So this would be about 1974 or '75.   It was the Nafis looking sort of underwear you could imagine because it harked back to very, very old days and things like that. It wasn't,   nineteen seventies glam underwear. Not that I was into that necessarily, but you get the idea. So I ended up, for the next three years, getting their catalog coming through. I couldn't I didn't know how to cancel it. I was too disinterested,   much to the chagrin of my mum who was fed up with seeing these Daymart Thermolactyl Underwear catalogs coming through. The only good thing was that they actually sent a bit   of the Daymar Thermolactyl   cloth. They told you to wrap it round your finger   to feel how warm it got. So, of course, I took this to school, and everybody was really rather amused to actually have very warm index fingers for a few minutes until I snatched it off them. It's not it's not much of a story, but it's the best I can do at this stage of the show. Eric, are you familiar with Daymar Thermolactyl? Oh, and by the way, welcome to the show. Greetings.  



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Greetings to everybody. And,   by the way, I'll just make Kirkpatrick a little envious. It was plus  

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11 degrees here today. Nice. So it's not bad. Almost like but it's almost whether you could take your jacket off.  

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Well, almost. But,   we've we've missed the sun. We had some sun yesterday, but it's back to overcast. It was chucking it down with rain. But, regarding Daymar Underwear,   it's really just us three on the air at the moment, isn't it? Because it is a little bit embarrassing what I'm going to say about the day Oh, good. I like embarrassing things. Good. Good. So, I've got my embarrassment ometer here.   Now what happened? I can't Oh, good. I like embarrassing things. Good. Good. So, I've got my embarrassment ometer here. Okay. We got got feedback. What's happening?   It's alright. It's gone now. It's fine. It's just me mocking about with my day mark thermal electrical fingers on the It's it's made you come over all unnecessary, has it? You know? It has. It really has. So actually Yeah. For Christmas, I'm not sure who bought it. It was my auntie or my mother. I I I I forgive whoever did send them, but I got some Daymar thermal gloves, you see. So I decided to show that I was a good boy, and I went to work wearing my Daymar thermal gloves.  

And I had the wee wee taken out of me, something awful. And I got a bit of string given to me so I could tie one end of that and then put it through my jacket and then tie the other end. Yeah. So I don't lose my gloves. And I said, did your mommy buy them for Christmas?   And all bloody day, I had it in here, and that was the first and last time I've ever worn anything by Daymar.  

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Because it used to have a place in Oxford Street, didn't they, I think? Didn't they? Used to have a I I don't know, Eric. I was a northern herb at the time, and Oxford Street was like some remote romantic distant place. I don't think first time I ever went to London, I was about 15. How about that? That was very exciting because it was from the North, you see. Oh, I see. But I'll tell you what I can I'll tell you what is extremely good. I bought a job lot of Swedish,  

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army surplus,   unused. Obviously, I wouldn't I wouldn't get used.   Long johns.   And these were must have been from the sixties.   And I bought them a couple of years back, and they have been in storage, and they said, you know, wash them all that.   Absolutely fantastic. And they're a % cotton,   but they're ribbed in such a way that they collect pockets of heat.   And they're   they're they're made from the, for the Swedish army. So my advice, if you're going to buy any long johns, go onto an army surplus and buy,   Swedish,   long johns.  

Fantastic. And they're very, very cheap. I can't remember how much they were, but worked out something like a pound a pair or something like that. And, they've just been in storage since the nineteen sixties.   So it's just quite amazing.  

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I thought I thought you were gonna say that if you're gonna join an army, join the Swedish army because then you'll get really good long term. That's what I thought you were gonna say. But,  

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when I joined the the,   the Italian army because, their tanks, What's it? It's got one forward gear and five reverses, isn't it? So I've been told. Sorry.   Oh, so silence there in the audience. We lost all of our Italian listeners.  

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Well, I don't know. I don't know about that. Mhmm. I don't know that. Maybe the old jokes die the hardest, really, don't they? I'm not liking this stuff. Although Actually  

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Yep. To to to be honest with you,   joking aside, the Italians   fought like lions.   Seriously. They really did. They even they shot the Germans, and they actually when they shaved, they shot the British as well. And and and they fought. They really did fight to the last almost. And, also,   it was,   a detachment of the I think it was, the Italian army and the French army   that was, when Berlin was about to fall, the ones that fought on the Gibbon side, they almost fought to the last man as well when they defended Berlin.   So we don't hear about that either. But they allowed   and they enabled civilians to get away and a lot of women from getting raped by the, Russian rape squad. So,   you know, let's let's,   let's think about those brave men who did not surrender. They fought to the last man. So there we are. Frank Yeah. I'd heard,  

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I'd heard that that that that was the case, that one of the major reasons that they had such a dismal record at certain parts of all that was that they were led by idiots, basically,   which wouldn't be surprising. Of course, that's a common complaint of the squad over here. But I'm thinking as well,   that our current situation,   even though,   I hadn't planned for us to start talking about this, but look. Let's go where we where the flow taketh us.   The current situation here in The UK is that the   the creature that's in charge   who's been running around dressed up as a soldier over the past few days, always incredibly embarrassing   when they try to sort of mimic some kind of military connection or something,   It's just talking absolute nonsense about sending troops out to fight Russia and all this kind of nonsense or whatever they're gonna do. So I I think I mean, I don't know how seriously I'm supposed to take it. I'm gonna take it reasonably seriously, actually, because,   the main issue I don't think is necessarily   that they're evil. It's that they're stupid.  

And I take their stupidity very seriously, and I think that they are profoundly stupid.   Did you see I don't know if either of you saw.   There was some clip this week   of   I think it was this week. In the European Parliament   or boudoir or wherever they hang out and just talk cobblers all day long, there was some I think it was a German politician. He may have been Belgian. I don't know. Stood at the podium   podium   crying because of what Jay Defense has said the previous day. Like all their little   did you see this?  

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And that's what we've got. Wow. And did you know this is this is He was crying. I haven't serious. He was absolutely  

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pathetic. And some sort of, you know, tenderhearted,   bent politician from wherever   came up with holding his hand and stroking it. Like, it's like all our dreams are over. Yeah. What? You mean your nightmare, you sickos?   I mean,   we've talked about this before, you know, about not being able to talk to them. You begin to see when they behave like that that that's absolutely true. That there is no   there's no meeting of anything much. I was gonna say the meeting of the minds, but I'm sincerely of the view that they don't have one. They've just got this big train sort of thing. They've got this ideology,   and they can't see they literally can't see the wood for the trees. They they don't know how to   smell cooking in a kitchen. They don't really have sense to change in the wind and all this kind of stuff. I mean, they're clueless. They're completely   Well It was embarrassing, Frank. It's like I've been given by a bunch of adolescents, and bad ones are there. That's right. I personally think they've all had a brain transplant that's rejected them because they they sort of behave,  

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as if they are aloof, but they really look quite a bit like people on in local council. But did you know that we have more horses in the British Army than tanks?   And you can look this up.   We have over 500   sorry. It's just under 500 horses.   Okay? Mhmm. And around 270   odd tanks.   And do you know how many horses the American army have got? Now you think how much bigger America is, and this is the entire United States army, just over a hundred.   For ceremonial purposes. And we've got 500.  

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So we could so if we had a charge of the light brigade, we could be married too. We we preppers over there, you know. If you run out of town, you can at least go after the horses and get some Yeah.  

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And we got tanks,   of which 50%, I think, are broken down.   And we're going to take on the might of the Russian army.  

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You see, we're not I don't think we are, are we? I think we are governed by this, you know, this force. That's not all we. Was Starmer really in fatigues, like military   get up? Oh, yeah. It's sad. It's unbelievable. I Are you Yeah. Whoever,   sent the the clip through, the picture on the Telegram chat during the week, Thank you very much. Because it was hilarious. Someone said there's nothing people you'd imagine in in military uniform.  

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Well, he he just go on the front lines then. You should you should send him over there on the front lines, and he can charge the machine gun nest.   Well And and Do you know who who  

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is exempt from well, America, they call it the draft, but, they're talking about, reinstating   national service,   or or, prescription in this country. Yeah. And I'm Boris Johnson doing that. Well, I'm pleased I'm too old for it. But quite honestly,   although in in World War two, I think they took the age up to almost 60.   But the thing is is that they're   they're talking about that, but before they start any war, there's always got to be a manufactured outrage.   So we can actually have a competition of guess what the outrage is going to be.   So the guess is what what what the outrage will be because,   remember, it was the first World War, some prince being   shot. What that's got to do with Great Britain, I still do not know. And in the second World War, it was Poland. That was the excuse that was used. So what's it going to be? Is it gonna be a mock attack of Poland by Russia? I personally think it might be a fake attack,   on Turkey. That's my that's my theory. Yeah?  



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Yeah. Turkey Turkey is part of NATO. Right? Yes. Of course. So they would have to all then gang up and and defend Turkey   at a at a certain point that took place.   Yeah. They're they're doing that down in Syria. The Turks are are really,   you know, they they don't like what's going on in Gaza and other places because it's it's so close to them. It's like, they're willing to do it with us. They'll do it to us.   I think they're they're hedging their bets, and   they're going into the Russian orbit  

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But the thing is, they could change sides overnight.   Sure. And remember, the CIA are probably very, very busy because all that to do is just destabilize   whoever's there.   And,   if you look at the writings of Nicholas Vane,   or forgotten his surname. Who's Stratton?   Something like that. So if somebody on someone in chat can remind me, it's,   Nicholas   Von   he's South African, and he died in, excuse my South African accent   in,   1926,   I think it was.   Sandlanders   or Sandlanders   talk about him. So it's Zoilanders?   Zoilanders. That's it. Something. Nicholas   Von   something he was, and he was   absolutely   spot on with all his most of his predictions. And he reckons that World War three will start   with Russia going into Turkey.  

That was what,  

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I recall the gentleman that you're referring to. Yes. He was a proficient seer of the future. I can't remember his exact name, but you're right. A lot of predictions. Yeah. I remember that. And he spoke  

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like this, like the South Africans. What do you think? Is this a good Bosch accent, do you think that is? Very good. Excellent.  

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I remember the South African accent, of course, used to be really rather was portrayed as being a very unattractive one, but I think,   it switched around. There's a great switcheroo, and people actually find I mean, if it's really, really thick, it's it's very difficult to understand at times. But,   you know, if it's polite and proper,   it's good. It's nice. I think,   yeah, I think it's a good little accent, actually. I quite like the South African accent.   What about Rhodesia?   Rhodesia. I don't know. Well, they all seem to have fallen out. They've fought they've disappeared, haven't they now? These accents, they've kinda gone away to some degree.   I don't know if they're still there.  



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We we used to wind up in the office, and he said we said, oh,   you you come from Zimbabwe. No. I came from bloody Rhodesia.   And then, and Right. It was something about his accent   that it made us laugh. I don't know what it was. If you said the word,   hippo or bicycle, we're off our seats in hysterics.   Why are you pecking the piss out of me? You know?   But   the thing is, he he could take a good laugh because he was,   his parents were British, but he was born or English rather, and he was born in,   Rhodesia. But he come over here because of, obviously, what had happened.   And,   he was saying that,   it was sold out to communism. This country literally sold Rhodesia out, and it was the food bowl of Africa.  

That's basically what what what what's happened. I I look at it now. Reading this, the David Irving book on Dresden,  

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and it's given me a a way different opinion than I had before about  

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about the British military. I'll tell you that much. And,  

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it's made me think, like, who really took out the Nord Stream two pipeline between Russia and Germany? Like, who who and I know America gets blamed for it.   But to me, it's like, you know, the Brits   could've easily gone in there and and done that. I mean, they've you've got more,   a base of operations to to work from than most American  

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Yeah. People would. But Was I'll I'll be I'll come first now. It was me and Eric, actually. Yeah. Well Weekend off in a in a canoe. So I think that we'll pass. Operation between the Brits and the Americans that really did it. And,  

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I don't know. It's and the the powers that be above it above, you know,   even even even the American and the British government, there's always the secret government behind it. So  

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I don't know what's gonna happen. By the way, by the way, guys, to put us out of our misery, not that you were necessarily in it, but, Soymast,   I hope I pronounced that correct, wonderful news name,   has given us the full name of the chap you're after, Eric. It's Nicholas Van Rensburg.  

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Yeah? So that was the name. Oh, that's the one that's the one. Yes. Yes. Mhmm.   Nicholas.   That's it. And they said and he got he actually predicted Trump coming to power, didn't he?   Did he? Yes. He predicted,   also,   Nelson Mandela.   And on that on that note, if you go to Harlow, there is a Nelson Mandela   Avenue,   and there's also, it was at Geyser in,   Ukraine Zaleski   Avenue as well.   So, I'm considering that,   Harlow, I believe, is the drug's capital of Southeast England. I suppose that's rather fitting to have Zelensky Avenue because Yeah.   You know?  

Yeah.   But the council there are slightly left of,   I'd say slightly left of Pol Pot, I would say something like that.  

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Well, there was a thread, wasn't there, into today's thing? Nelson   Mandela,   UK streets named. There are more streets named after Nelson Mandela in The UK than the rest of the world put together. Now I've exaggerated, but Well, all I hear is Martin Luther King  

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Boulevard. Oh, yeah. That that sort of thing.  

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Yeah. Well,   Mandela was a terrorist found with loads of bombs and blew people up. So sorry. No go there. And,   how's it all worked out?   Not so good. But, anyway, it's none of our business.   But there you go. But, no. I don't think he's a particularly   worthy,   figure of adoration   or place names or anything. There's loads of them that are like that. Of course, it's rich coming from me. We've got statues put up to Churchill and Cromwell as well. So, you know,   I'm not trying to sort of just point it all in one way, but,   Mandela's not particularly all of them, when you look into them, the ones that have been really bigged up that we're supposed to really support, they all turn out to be a little bit more than feet of clay. They're actually sort of like,   you know, they're not particularly pleasant characters at all. I guess that's why they're promoted so much.  

So yeah.   Anyway, I wanted to, not that I want to sit on this topic all evening. Maybe it's incredibly dry and rather disinteresting topic. I've just been taken up with looking at a corn law recently again, and I know it's a sort of thing,   at least it used to and still does do that to some degree,   for me.   But it's the the thinking behind it,   for me I keep coming back to the idea that,   and we've touched on this regularly here. You know, there's no shortage of knowledge about really what the problem is.   There's no shortage of knowledge on where the main pockets of this problem are. We know that you look at it all, it's it's huge in its extent.   I tend to point the finger,   you know, predominantly at the banking system, the money power, simply because that's the one I'd like to see get absolutely,   castrated   in its current form as quickly as possible, then we might be able to find out,   what the real problem is elsewhere. But   the thing the thought I've been coming back to is that irrespective of how much we may know,   even if we know who we think are the main perpetrators,   there's no history recently of any lawful actions being brought against these people,   to pull them up short.  

It's as if the entire   area of correction of criminal activity,   doesn't exist.   And the the law,   therefore,   it's not so much that it's an ass. It's that it's a very dangerous thing because it's it's been waylaid   and consumed, ultimately, I would say, by the money power.   Of course, we've got currently,   running around inside 10 Downing Street, this little automaton called Keir Starmer, who's basically like a sort of legalistic functionary. He's he's just all about rules.   Yeah.   Yeah. Mister Keir Starmer   and,   or Sir Keir Starmer.   Oh, by the way, just going back to that thing with him in the army fatigues,   if you see the picture, he's got very, very small hands.  



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They're really tiny.  

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I don't know why I found this funny, but I don't Trump has small hands that that Yeah. Marco Rubio used to say. So Yeah. We're being governed by small handed people. This is no good. You know what they say about people with small hands, don't you? They've got small,   Small gloves.   No. Small gloves.   So,   and,   yeah. They're very, very tiny little hands. But they were we're we're governed by a lawyer who's kind of procedurally,   you know, wrecking everything.   And so I just wanted to go back and look at the common law thing. Over the weekend,   have you heard of this thing called, Blackstone's  

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commentaries on the law? You heard of that, Eric? I've heard I've heard of it. No. Never heard of it. No. I've heard of Blackstones. I've heard of, like,  

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Blackstones?  

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Anyway, he wrote these four volumes of commentaries on the law. They've been sort of   updated and revised. I'm not profoundly knowledgeable about it. And I thought, I bet I ought to read that. It's a silly thought, really, because it's about 2,400   pages. I think they're all about 600 pages long. There's four volumes in   it. But, I came across it the other day. I was reading the first sort of 10 or 15 pages, and it's actually I found it understandable.   I mean, it's written in that extremely sort of slightly decorative language from our point of view and uses words where you have to reach for your dictionary every now and again because the they've fallen out of use.   But it's a whole   it's a pitch about the strength of the common law. And in fact, somewhere in The I don't know where it is in The States. There's a place called Blackstone,   which is named after him, and there's also a massive statue of him. In fact, it was so big that they had to I think they had to either reduce the statue or change the building to get it in it. I don't know which major governmental building it's in, Patrick, but there is a big statue of him because he's he's viewed rightly as a pivot   behind, I guess, what you would call The US constitution and certainly behind   the British constitution, which is never spoken about but but does exist.  

So I was I was rummaging around with this and,   you know, wondering whether I ought to stick that in my pocket and try and find £90 in there to buy all these books, and so far I've resisted the temptation. It's it's not that big a temptation because it's,   it would be quite a test to read it all. But I came across this other document, which I just wanted to mention here during this sort of further part of the show,   called the Occulted Powers of the British Constitution.   It's only about 14 pages,   and,   I'll probably make it available on the Telegram group at some point. But I I think I'm gonna record it actually as a mini sort of little audio booklet or audio pamphlet communication because,   I've come across many sorts of presentations and pitches about democracy and this, that, and the other. And I tend to find them,   a, they're written by people who are highly knowledgeable. I certainly get that sense, but that they kind of don't reach me for some reason. And maybe it's because I'm profoundly stupid,   but there's something sort of missing in terms of the duplicability   of them. You know, you wanna take them to the guy in the pub, can you? But this document is fantastic. The Occulted Powers of the British Constitution.  

It's written by let me get the name of the author because he's an ex school teacher, and he's got a video channel and all sorts of things, which I've not had a chance. William Kate or Kite. It's spelled k e y t e. So, William, if you hear this, my apologies   if I've mulleted pronunciation of your surname. But William Kate, I suppose, k e y t k e y t e.   And it's really rather tremendous. I think you'd get a great deal of it as well, Eric, in terms of   this whole thing to do with what   what common law is and what common law juries   are. And,   maybe,   sort of seasoned inquiries will be familiar with this.  

But   the reason why the trial by jury,   what strikes me so far having I've only read it through once, so I'm gonna read it a few more times.   The great power of it is that it's got   predominantly   two sorts of powers. The first one is the one that we all think of, you know, determining whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty and all that kind of stuff.   And that's where it's been left. That's how we view it today. I think it's how it's been pared down today.   But in its initial, original, and therefore, fullest and lawful   iteration, the way it started off,   is that the jury can actually try the law under which the defendant has been brought into the court. Is that called jury nullification?  

It is. Although that's not it's probably not a very good phrase, but it is. It's called jury nullification, and that's a slightly deceptive way of putting it. But they can effectively   evaluate the law,   and they can so if I pick if I make up some spurious madness like shouting in public at 10:00 in the morning or something near a church, mind it's getting like that anyways. But you could the jury could say, what? What have you brought me in here on? This is a law from three hundred and forty two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, there's a extremely vexatious litigant, you know, a vexatious neigh neighbor.   They can throw the law out. I'm I'm making up a completely fictitious sort of charge to sort of illustrate the point. If the jury thinks that the law,   supposed law that's been brought in, is not a law at all, is not fit to be called a law anymore, if it ever was,   they throw it out.  

Now   the what this document points out from this is that this is major,   and it really is major because although we're told we are sovereign individuals and we live in a free democracy and all the other piffle that they talk about, the truth of it is that although we ought to,   we don't.   And one of the reasons that we don't is this,   removal of the power of juries from all things.   Because when you think about it, it's the I've thought about it anyway, that it's the dynamic living of the law in the local community, you know.   And I don't know how this strikes you, but you'll be very interested to know that towards the end of the document on page 14 and rightly so,   it addresses,   in passing quite briefly,   the laws concerning usury.  

Okay. So if we were to bring   the Bank of England to court,   on a charge of conducting   and enabling usury on a national basis for centuries, which is exactly what it does and why it was created and why it is privately owned.   As the as a sound jury,   we could say   that this whole basis that you have got that this law that enables you to conduct usury,   that's not a law. You're not allowed to do it. Now I know I'm sort of daydreaming here, but where do we get power from to stop them? I I'm I keep going around thinking,   everybody's getting hammered. They're getting taxed. The prices of everything are going up. There's obviously the, you know, the fix is in all over the place. We're being governed by this guy, Starmer, over here. We don't know quite how it's gonna work out in The US just yet, who's   who's taking his orders from elsewhere. I see so many comments from people   saying this, and yet he's still,   saying things. I don't think he should be allowed to speak. I don't think I don't think he should be allowed to speak at all because I haven't heard him say anything   that supports   the people of these islands in any way, shape, or form. It's just complete nonsense. Now I know I'm speaking in a slightly exaggerated and still in May,   but we we don't have any teeth. How are we supposed to stop them?  

And in the end, what I think is occurring is,   and we I do it here. You know, we do it elsewhere. We end up describing the problem in great detail,   but we're still toothless to stop it. And I'm very interested in stopping it, which is why I was reading this document again to try and get to the bottom of how we actually bring it back to life   in the true form that it was intended from Magna Carta twelve fifteen because Magna Carta is it.   I mean, they tried to do a a few supplemental things. Yeah. I think it that's 12/15.   Twelve '20 '5 or something like that, they got together and tried to twist it. Nah. There's another one a bit later on. You can't do any of these things. They can't go in and change the law. Eric, you'll be familiar with I think you've mentioned it here before that, you know, Tony Blair, Tony Blair as he's more commonly known,   he came up with a thing that said, oh, you can't this is not a reasonable offense anymore. He just can't say that. It's not it's not for him to say. He's not yeah. He changed it actually,  

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from   hung by the neck until dead to life imprisonment. He he it's null and void. Totally null and void. Yeah. Because I can't change it. And I think the original law, 1848.   That's what I get. I think it's '48. Could be wrong, but I know it's '18 something.   And he he could not change it. It's it's hung by it it it's it's still the penalty of death even though he said it's life imprisonment. Why? Because he realized that   he he could be done for treason, which he can be done for treason. I think everyone that's served in government   is committing treason against the population they're supposed to represent.  

No ifs, no buts.   I don't I personally,   there's two sides to it. I don't like killing or hanging or anything like that.   And my view is to put them on islands away from everybody else, and that's it. They spend their life on an island.   But as,   somebody I was talking to said, well, yes. But that those people, they'll probably get out in a couple of years, come back, and they start back again where they left off.   So what do you do with them? I mean,   they've got into power, and that's the big problem is power attracts psychos.   And they create a vacuum, and they create the law unto themselves.  

And that's what we've got in power now. Who isn't a psycho?  

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How do we how do we acquire power? That's what I'm interested in. Not because I want power, but I think it's required   to throw these criminal criminals out. Basically,   you could say that,   a a common denominator amongst all of them is malice of forethought.   All of them have got malice of forethought. They've all been plotting. This is nothing that's going on right now is by accident. They're all That's right. Doing that. And so they need to be brought before juries.   And I remember what's his name? Who was that?   Oh, gosh. I I don't remember his name. Jack Straw.  

Remember him?  

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Yes. There ain't nothing that I can get that bastard. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Okay. Steady.   I mean, I I fully agree with you as well, of course. Well, Straw said that I said he.   Yeah. He said,   oh, we don't need this trial by jury anymore. Whereas I would say that's all we need.   Why do we need anything? You see, the the jury becomes literally the judge. The judge is not there to pass judgment.   That's what they've morphed into.   The judge is like,   the referee   in a football match. To make it's not for him to decide who won the match. You don't get to do that. His job is to make sure that the sides that are involved in the dispute, whatever you want to call it,   perform by the rules of the law in terms of how they should behave in court and other things as well. I'm giving a very simplified thing here because my knowledge currently is simplistic.  

But that's his job. It's not for them to and to also   provide direction to a jury if they ask for it.   And yet, I suppose, today, most cases don't have a jury at all about anything. You know? Yeah. But the trouble is the judge directs the jury  

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for the outcome, which they're they shouldn't do. And what that point you've made about they asked the judge, that is what should happen, but they don't and doesn't happen because the judge guides Yep. The the jury.   But   I I think that   the well, when you look at the our entire legal system, it's all corrupt. It's It's all gone completely   pear shaped. It's now part of an agenda, and this is what happens in all communist societies.   It's everything is for,   geared towards an agenda, whatever that agenda may be.   But, really, I think that,   we've got to   the way of dealing with it is to do what these truth groups   are not doing.  

Going on marches is a waste of time, a complete waste of time. They're just,   data gathering exercises for the secret service. That's all they do. They're achieving.   The way you go to these people is you do deny them their lifeblood,   and their lifeblood is money.   So how do you deny them of money? Well, first of all, you've got to look at the propaganda outlets,   such as,   broadcasting.   That's the the power that they have. So surround the broadcasting   places,   allow staff out, but not in, and only allow your own people in.   That would be the first start. The second thing   is,   civil disobedience,   but always very peaceful. I'm not I'm not I don't believe in violence.  

Because you're actually allowing yourself to them. They want you to be violent. They are because they're violent in their own nature, the way they behave.   So,   really, when you say civil disobedience,   find every way of, say, trying to start your own currency, but keeping them out of it.   And but the most important thing is   media.   Once you've got control of the media, you've won. And they know it. That's why they've got a stranglehold on the media.  

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That's it. Well, I I all of these things are interlocked. I agree with you. I mean, I suppose I'm interested in this thing because it's the my biggest area of weakness. I'm admitting it right now. I'm not as knowledgeable on this as I think I ought to be and should be. And, generally, I've not paid attention to it because I've not found it. I've thought this is a little dry. But I remember oh, and by the way, shout out to, to Sawmatt again,   who says that Blackstone's law commentaries   was second only to the Bible in sales during the American Revolution. Yeah. Blackstone's very, very important. He's quite brilliant, actually. He's a brilliant Englishman,   Eric, just to let you know, like, off the charts.  

Yeah. And some of his commentary, some of the things he says about foreign universe, it's just very personable, the way he writes. I I thought it would be very distant, but I actually found it relatively straightforward. So I'm probably gonna buy the first volume. If I can get through that, I'll buy them one at a time. So,   I don't I I just got this sense that it's important. The guy that taught me about banking back in the mid nineties,   and I realized it thirty years ago. I was going,   hang on. Nineteen ninety four, ninety five. Holy mother. That's over thirty years. I can't believe it, really. I don't know what I don't know where the tag has gone. You know how everybody says that, but it's true. I don't.   He said whenever we were talking about all these things, he said the area to concentrate on, the area where we gain,   and where we can win if we organize it right is the law.  

And and I think I mean, if you think about the law and the way this is why I've got this picture of these nice barristers for today, which is from an absolutely brilliant film, which I'll talk about momentarily.   If you think about the way that they conduct that entire theater of courts,   and I know because I went into one where they were like that. That's where I went thirty well, twenty five years ago. Okay?   My experience has been of completely in an alien place, not understanding anything at all. I mean, I basically was dense. They say, well, ignorance is no defense.   I would agree with that,   except I wasn't ignoring these laws. I didn't even know they existed. I I would argue that I was nescient, which is a very clever dick word, isn't it? Which I only learned afterwards. It's n e s c I e n   c e, as in n e science. It's known as nescience.  

And ignorance is when you know of a thing and choose to not pay attention to it, but negence is when you're not even conscious that this thing that's about to arrive in your life even existed before it actually turned up. You just literally don't know.   You know, like that comet that's coming next Wednesday or whatever. It's a little bit. So the newspapers think they know.   So and I'm just saying from a personal   point of view,   it was awful.   I hated it, right, because I was clueless, totally at the beck and call of what they were doing.   And,   but they said certain things which sparked me off down this route more fully. I was aware of it because I'd been but we were kinda doing things, trying to make something happen naively and very stupidly, really, in retrospect. But it's what propelled me into this path of inquiry about all of these things.  

So everybody's got sort of, like, the kick up the ass moment. For me, that was it when I ended up in court.   And,   it was bizarre and surreal and weird in the way they talked to one another, but it became very clear to me that the whole thing was a shakedown. They were just talking about fees and how much money they could get out of the situation. Well, I just thought, wow.   Nothing that was important to me was relevant. This is not to say that I'm in the right. It just mean that I was utterly clueless and totally out of my depth,   which is fine. Okay? That is absolutely the truth. And I think the layman today   is in exactly the same position with regards to, say, trial by jury   and the and the immense power.  

This is the thing I've got from this little document. It's immense. It's the power in the land. If you can effectively tell government,   and we can through juries, that what you say is a law isn't because they're always passing these acts and statutes.   So I'm just sort of chirping on here in a kind of half cocked sort   of way, but,   I intend to really I I personally have to get to the bottom of all this because I think a whole series of, like, very brief   instructional kind of little video type things, like a minute, two minutes, that kind of thing.   And I know I'm living in sort of I'm being sort of runny optimist about this because people I understand why they go, what? The law. But if we can get across where the power lies, there could be something immense here. In fact, I'm pretty sure there is. And we've gotta go back to MagnaCut. But you're right about the media, Eric, in that they dissipate any sort of communications energy you can build up. But   but we have to find a way of stopping them, and it's so frustrating to just wake I find frustration is possibly not the correct word.  

It's   dispiriting to keep reading of these things that they're doing,   and no one is defending us. No one knows how to, it would seem, or those that do have already been now paid off and bought off and are on the other side, which is probably the you know,   the majority of people have have gone that way because they get paid well and this, that, and the other and all that kind of stuff.   But there's some wonderful observations in this in this relatively brief document. For example, when you were tried by a jury of your peers,   that's literally what it should be. So,   for example, it's it's similar to   the way that the best football referees   are ex footballers.  

In other words,   of their peer group, understands how football's played, knows when a guy's trying it on, knows what's a foul, etcetera, just instinctively knows through years of experience. So if you're a plumber and you're up to some   supposedly, you're charged with being up to some bad, it's like the the jury should be a lot of plumbers.   If it's if it's about a technical plumbing theft or whatever it might be.   So you've got all these peer groups at different levels of society, and I've often thought that one of the reasons why we're at the sort of beck and call of them is that we're not involved   at all   with   the dynamic,   reinforcement   of how we want to live because that's really what the law is. It says, this is the accepted mode of behavior   based on the laws of god because that's where the common law comes from,   and you've broken it. So your jury of your peers have said you've actually behaved really badly here, so there is a penalty.  

There is none of that going on. We've got all these expensive prisons and all these other things. The whole thing is a madness,   and it's it's moving us away from how we want to live. And, of course, we've now got this,   these additional threats which they put in place, which is all this mass migration into our home, which none of us agreed to. I don't see how it's possible to actually organize that when I don't agree to it.   And I'm reasonably sure you don't agree to it either, Eric. You know? So No. I agree. I I agree with you.  

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But what gets me is that   legalese is a language all of its own. Why aren't we taught legalese at school? Surely, you you've got to play on an even field.   If you're going into court, you should understand it. And it's obviously   made to bamboozle you so they can run ring ring rings around you. And this is what angers me. Why can't it be in a way that everybody can understand? Why do they have to speak legally?   It's a bit like when Clinton,   was caught doing naughty things to   Monica Lewinsky.   He said, I said, I did not,   sleep with that woman. And he said Sexual relations.  

I said sexual relations. And he said, it depends. And he he   he he looked into it in such a way because he was a trained lawyer   that,  

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he got away with it. Because he's speaking to the definition of is is.  

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Correct. That's what he said. Of the things that he Yeah. Yeah. Came across Yeah. As an argument. And isn't it amazing  

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that   Zelensky I know I know I'm going slightly off the track, what I'm gonna say now. Zelensky   is a draft dodger.   He dodged it four times.  

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He doesn't dodge he doesn't dodge piano keys with his penis, though, does he?   No. No. He made a He's the guy that played a piano with his penis, didn't he, on TV or something? That's right. Yes. He's a plonker.   He went plonk, plonk, plonk. He was plonking away at the keys with his plonker. Is that right?   Yes. This is a family show, but this is true.  

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Little William and the piano.  

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That's right.  

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Yes. He made a cock up of it.   But, He did. Sorry. Yes. But   when you think about it, he   he dodged the draft four times.   Trump got away with it because he had problems with his heels,   but he's played squash.   George Bush   Junior,   went into the National Guard, and only I think one unit was sent to Vietnam,   so he never went to Vietnam. So he had a bit of a cushy old number because that's where all the posh people's kids went into. That was the National Guard. And Clinton got away with it because he was studying, and he came to England to do his studies.   So none of them have actually served in the military.  

And they all avoided   Vietnam. And so when Zelensky, well, he he wasn't even he wasn't even an itching. He filed his underpants during the Vietnam War. But,  

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But I mean the I mean, that with him, of course,   he's completely bogus. This whole thing I mean, you know, they're all sort of in theater.   He he's a guy with literally zero political experience. I mean, he's just he's obviously another puppet. He's been told what to do. And you never get this, of course, in the mainstream media over here about this. I mean, the the fact that they're thinking   that this is   worth supporting in any way. John's Boris Johnson's got a lot to answer for or his handlers do. You see, I just don't view any of the public figures as being the people who are actually really making the decisions here. They get around this thing, you can't do that because that, well, chop your legs off. Really? Yeah.   Never forget JFK, say the handlers   or whatever they're saying.  

So it's,   it's very it's very difficult. He can't be taken seriously. I mean and yet you find, don't you now? So the things that we've just alluded to well, they're not we didn't allude to. They're true. His piano playing exploits. The fact that he was running around like some great sort of nonce on TV,   everything about him   is just a joke. He looks like a joke. He looks thick. He is thick. Right? But because they talk him up, it's as if we're supposed to believe that he's some great leader. Didn't somebody the other day compare him to Churchill?   They did. I read this thing where they compared him to Churchill. I thought, well, you're absolutely right there. What, what is he? He's drunk. He's a weirdo. He's probably a sodomite, and he's a he's a traitor to his own people. So, yeah, 10 out of 10. Well, because no one's supposed to think like that. We're supposed to buy the manure about Churchill as well. You know? So   all the way. I wanna read a couple of little paragraphs from this document. Okay? This is just about this thing. Just, I know it's kinda studious really, but we'll we'll we'll move around a little bit later on. But,   page three just says authentic common law trial by juries. Just to get this point across, I think it's   you see, I think there's something in this, and that's a very wet thing to say. There's something in this. I just wanna know how to apply it, how we turn this into an actual force   for good   in support of the people. It says,   unlike the trial by jury we have today, and you mentioned this, Eric, a few moments ago, in which there is seemingly only one purpose to the jury   in I e to come up with a judgment, you know, guilty or not guilty. In authentic   common law trial by jury, there was a second purpose   that elevated the people in the jury   to the highest law council of the land.  

This is very important. Right? In other words, when you're in that jury, there is no law in the land higher than you.   You're it,   which is very interesting.   The petty jury of 12, it goes on, has the right and the duty   to judge not only the accused,   but also the law itself, as I was mentioning a few moments ago. The jurors   are supposed to judge on the existence of guilt in the accused,   but not simply by following the legislation   under which the accused was brought before them. They must make an independent decision on the guilt of the accused based on their conscience.   They are looking for   mens rea, malice of forethought.  

The people form their community's laws by tapping into their sense of natural justice.   Natural law. That's you and me, everyone. That's what we do. This is part of our outrage. We know that this natural justice is not being exhibited at all in public life anywhere. It's all this other stuff.   He goes and he says, for this reason, under genuine common law,   the juror's decision is also private,   and there must be no coercion of a juror by the court to reveal their reasons for their conclusions.   Furthermore,   in order for the accused to be found guilty, all 12 jurors must return a guilty decision.  

Even if the decision of only one juror of the 12 is not guilty,   then the overall jury's verdict is automatically   not guilty.   Authentic common law fundamentally favors liberty,   and there is no such thing as a rogue juror or a majority   verdict.   And then it quotes David Hume, the Scottish philosopher from the late, sixteen, seventeen hundred, something like that. He says, an institute in talking about this trial by a jury, he writes,   an institutional   an institution,   admiral in itself, admirable in itself,   and the best calculated   for the preservation of liberty and the administration of justice that was ever devised by the wit of man. And I think that this is true.  

We've got this tool   sitting around covered in dust,   and we just I'm dusting it off a little bit here. And if I don't watch it by Saturday morning, it'll be back in dust again in my brain, if you know what I mean. And we've got we might well have the very thing if we can put energy and communication and structure into it. And there are societies, which I'm gonna try and connect up with over the next week, who are doing this.   We need to bring these people   to court.   They are killing us. I mean, you know, we I know we we've got to have a laugh about it and everything, but I really don't think it's right. You know?   I think if if we've got this tool and I'm ignoring it, then I'm just as liable. I'm, like, guilty because I'm saying, well, actually, we could have done this thing. So this is just me. At the moment, I'm kind of a little bit enthused about all this kind of stuff. It's not the first time. I find it as a trail. It inside me, it tends to go a little bit cold. But,   let me just read you the last couple of bits, and I'll throw it up to you. He says,   the jury's verdict can ultimately disagree with the legislation.  

And this is known today rather patronizingly   as a perverse   verdict,   although there is nothing perverse,   of course, for the juror to find the legislation   under which the accused is brought before them as unjust.   If this happens, then something must be flawed in the case or the legislation itself   as it is found to be out of alignment with the consciences   of the jurors. This is the bit that gets me.   When this occurs, the legislation is annulled specifically for that case. This is the people   governing   or policing their own society.   And there's a quote here then from Ken Doudney who's,   still alive. I've actually got his book on Democracy Defined.  

He says, this position,   that is the matter of law was decided by the justices or judges,   but the matter of fact by the peers   is wholly incompatible   with the common law   for the jury were the sole judges both of the law and the fact. In other words, the jury is it.   The judge, like I said, we've gotta get them back. I know they don't. You're right. They don't have this role. They're in charge. You get this that sense because they've grown into that role, the whole of the sort of situation in it. I mean, you know, this is my early stabs at this, so I probably sent a few things that are wrong. But   the jury is it. Therefore, everything should be tried by jury, shouldn't it? For example, we talk about parking tickets and speeding fines. A jury could say, this speeding thing is not even a law. It's rubbish. Throw it out.  

And there's   no there's no legal force or law force in the land higher than them.   Not the king. Nobody.   That's why they've got rid of it. That's why Jack Straw said we don't need trial by jury. It's all it's exactly what we need. It's absolutely what we need. It's what our forefathers in 12/15   figured out eight hundred years ago.   It's quite a thing.  

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It's an amazing thing. But, like, it's It's quite a thing. I don't I I don't and I'm repeating your words now. I I don't believe in jails.   To put someone   in a a a in a room,   and give them mental illness   is a ridiculous   way. If someone has done wrong, they got to actually pay back the victim,   first of all. Mhmm.   And it depends on, obviously, the the I mean, there are some people that need to go into psychiatric wards because they are a danger to themselves as as well as a danger to everybody else. Yes. You do need those type put into   places, silence for for the want of a better word.  

But for,   other things, I think it could be dealt with much more cheaply and much more effectively   if it was,  

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the that that they have to pay back the victims. That's what they've got to do. And, I think that's fine. Slaves. Make them slaves to the You do. That's well, that's biblical law, Eric, that you've just quoted. The the law was you stole a cow,   you owed a guy six cows.   Yeah. Seriously, that's how it worked. Cows were really much heavier than that. The bigger the thing you stole, the more you had to pay back. So if it was a sheep, it might be four sheep. If it's a cow, it's six. So the guy says, I haven't got any cows. I can't pay any of the cows back. Go, right. You're a slave to the guy that you've whose life you've disrupted   and caused harm to. Listen. This is how it worked back then. You're a slave,   and you'll work it off. And, basically, someone in the village or the town would monitor that situation until everybody got to the point where you get, you paid it off. And when you think about it, there is actual natural justice in that because   they wouldn't have   I don't think, that the person that committed the crime would then have a stigma around them. When they then walked down the street having returned these six cows back in this situation,   all his neighbors and everything go, you're an idiot to do that, Charles or Tony or whatever you're name. That was really stupid thing that you did, but it's really excellent that you've paid it off, and now you're back in. You've got standing again, and we can operate.  

I I think there's something wonderful about it. Of course, people will say it can't be done in this modern   metropolitan, cosmopolitan mess that we've got right now. And maybe practically,   immediately today, they they would be correct. But if there's no drive back in that direction, how are we supposed to do it? And it seems right. Even in the US constitution, we have the the fourteenth amendment, which was a consequence after the civil war where  

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you had these abolitionists that wanted to get rid of slavery.   Well, they got rid of slavery   in, you know, of a sort.   But at the same time, even in the fourteenth amendment, it says that slavery can be a punishment for a crime.   So you can Yeah. Enforce it   as a Yeah. Judge or, as you say, a jury. A jury to me is kind of like a group of judges getting together and and   coalescing around whether, you know, someone's guilty or not. That sounds more like a judge. I I suppose you look at the word jury.   It's like the plural form of a jurist or, you know, someone who would   have jurisdiction.  

Yeah. So in a way, it's like a council of judges.   And the the biggest problem is they're not informed by the church.   There's this whole notion that we have in our modern day of the separation of church and state. And if you have that separation, you don't have informed   the state, which is the military power and and the policing power,   of the moral code and and divine justice.   So you're gonna have these violations of it. You're gonna have people, you know, getting away with murder,  

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literal murder, which they do every day. Well, I guess. But they do that right now. It would seem to me that if we start, you're you're right. There's bound to be problems. Now I won't say that any of these things are perfect, but which one is the least wrong?   And it seems to me that this is far less wrong   than other things. I mean, they did try to put a thing in where you had to qualify to be on a jury. I think that's wrong.   I mean, if you if everyone gets the vote, then everyone gets to be on a jury. And I kinda thought that it would be wonderful if we were all on juries all the time. You you couldn't have slaves as members of juries,   could you? Well no. Okay. Or criminals or people that are under some penalty because they'd committed.  

Absolutely. You've gotta have some in other words, hey. What's the word?   I don't like citizen, but an individual of good standing   and to work this out so that we get strength back in. I mean, I like this idea of of it being a natural peer group.   You see, if you leave normal people in relatively small numbers, most things work out all the time.   But in very large cities, huge cosmopolitan places with all these other pressures and everything like that, you've getting all these   it's a much more complicated situation or has has grown into that. And now we have this professional law service   that is literally,   that's not viewed upon with any great favor. But   what's also not viewed upon with any great favor is me stumbling over the end of the hour, which we're now at. Look, an hour has absolutely flown by. So, we're gonna take a song break right now. We are gonna do that. You're listening to Paul English live here on,   WBN 324. We're with you for another hour. We're here every Thursday.  

And I'm gonna play a song. Well, I'm just gonna play a song, and then we're gonna come back and we'll talk a bit more stuff about the common law. And if you wanna get involved in the chat, if you head on over to paul english live dot com, click the rumble link, and we'll be going through some of the chat messages in the second half of the show. Here's Robert Plant and Alison Krauss.  

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Some sunny day, baby. When everything seems okay, babe,   you wake up and find that you're alone  

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because I'll be  

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gone.   Everyone that you meet   as you walk around the street, baby, you're asking why you're walking   all along   and why you're  

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Hello, and, welcome back to hour two, Paul English Live here on WBN, and I'm with Eric and Patrick. And we were just having a chinwag there about trial by jury.   So,   not that I've ever been in front of a jury. I didn't have a jury in my case.   Anybody here been in front of a trial by jury? Anybody got up to naughty things?   No. Nothing.   Not very quiet.  

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It's, but why do they wear black?   Why do they wear wigs?   All a bit pervy to me.  

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I think the wigs make them look very nice, Eric.  

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Yes. It's rather,  

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sure it's Somebody may well know.  

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Yeah. I what I heard is that we're all supposed to be dead,   and,   it's part of the sort of cult   because they're guidance, because it's,   an, nautical law, isn't it? That's why the you have a dock,   and that's why you stand in the dock   and, that type of thing. If you look at the legal system, it's all to do with, shipping.   So, that's why Admiralty law, don't they call that? That's it. Admiralty law. Yes.   That's Admiralty law.   So but where the black comes in,   I don't know.   I was told it's because we're all at sea,   and we lost at sea.  

Again, it still doesn't answer why they're in black.  

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I suppose there's a I I know. I there's a part of me   that's   that wants to really get to the bottom of this, and it needs to be simple. And yet every time you go into it, it gets complicated with inside a matter of two or three lines or feels as though it's doing that.   And I personally resent the idea that I'm supposed to unpick   a plotted system that I was never invited to actually participate in building.   But then that's me whinging because,   as I think we're right to whinge about this kind of stuff. You know, there's this   sort of little what would you call it?  

An aphorism or something that you you better   you better make up your mind what you wanna do with your life,   because if you don't, somebody else will.   And I think that that's true, but I think it's also probably even worse than that when you think about it. But when you were born, somebody already had   made up their mind what was gonna happen to your life. You were born like a fish in water into this system,   which   maybe you sense, but you can't describe it. You only sense it as an instinct that something's not quite right. You know?   Why should I pay income tax? Indeed, why should you?  

Who who are these people demanding money off me and telling me that they're doing all these great things for me with my money, but I don't see any of these great things that they're talking about? And why is it that the well, some of the great things they do is to send my forefathers off into battles where they died. What's that all about? And they don't go. They don't go to those battles. They stay here telling us that it's it's things like that.   You know? So   we are born into it seems to me, we're born into this sort of locked in system situation.   And yet I do feel that this has gotta be a a way through. Magna Carta, of course, the fact that it is ignored   and brushed under carpet and that they've spent I mean, certainly, this I mean, they spent eight hundred years pushing it out of the way.  

They've been very determined to do that slowly but surely, inexorably, almost like as an instinct.   And I guess this is based on human nature. I want more power. I want more stuff than that guy down the road. How could we twist this? How could we twist that? How could we make them forget about this? How can we get them, you know, to think, well, this is not very important. You don't really need this kind of stuff. You know? And it's worked. Unfortunately, it works.   I had a wonderful it wasn't about law. We're all probably pleased to hear. We can move on a bit then.   But I am just to let you know, I'm gonna record that.  

I think 14 pages, it'll probably come in at twenty five minutes. And when I've got it, I'll stick it up on the Rumble channel. And, hopefully, it might be of use. It's certainly gonna be of use to me because I I need to sort of   read through these things and try and get to grips with it. But,   where are we? Couple of days ago, Tuesday,   I was going out for my afternoon walk as I do.   And,   a good, neighbor over the road, he's a builder.   I might have mentioned him in passing. I'm not by name, and I won't do that. But he's a builder, really great guy. He's a a guy that,   you know, I know it's an old saying, but he would probably give you the shirt off his back if he could help you under certain he's just a very good hearted,   decent   fella. And, he was sat in his cab. It was it was the afternoon. It was about 04:00, and it was cold, although light. And he was just at the engine running, getting warmed up about to shoot off somewhere. So I went over and had a chat and wished him happy New Year because I've seen him, of course, all year.  

And, we just got around to talking about many of the things that are discussed here on this show.   And,   I was just trying to find out   what he knew,   which sounds a bit sort of patronizing, but it's not. It was just a genuine inquiry   because he's a busy guy. He's out working with his hands all over the place   and putting up scaffolding and rendering buildings. And just him and his brother, they work bloody hard, and they're really decent guys. You know?   And,   I just wanted to we just got talking about the state of things. He said some very he said some wonderful stuff. He's got a son,   and he just brought this up. He said he said, oh, my son,   he said he he wants to he he thinks Starmer should be done away with. I'm I'm phrasing it really nicely. Okay? He didn't that wasn't the exact language he used to me. And I said, oh, I I think your son's on the right track. And that kinda opened up the conversation, and we got talking about a lot of things. And he just heard about the WEF.  

He'd only just come to his attention a few weeks ago. He said, what's that all about? I said, it's part of the problem, you know, and all this kind of stuff. And and we we talked about every single thing really that needs to be talked about, that everybody knows needs to be talked about, and that you can talk about with a neighbor. So we were talking about, yeah, the migrant situation. And he informed me, and this wasn't a surprise, that sort of some of the females in his life, they feel that, you know, we we can't help them enough.   We're not helping them enough. We need to help them more,   and that whenever anybody,   brokers an opinion running in the opposite direction, they get quite upset about this   and think that somehow   we are liable for this   forever and that we must look after everybody forever and that we somehow that we can, although this is never ever really answered about how we're gonna do all this.  

And that's a major problem, I think, when you've got people who you think are supposed to be on your side,   are actually thinking in a direction which I think is so lethal and dangerous.   I don't know what you guys think about that, but I come across this quite often. I don't say anything much. There's no point pushing it to the point of a dispute.   I'm just sat there listening wondering, how did you get to this point   of becoming so disconnected from the welfare of your own people and having this weird thought that somehow we've got infinite capacity to help infinite people by having them all come and live in our home,   an action which when they arrive here stops being our home and demoralizes   us. Please look around. Look at how demoralized and hacked off people are. They're not happy. They want a little bit of peace in their life, and they can't get it anymore because they're being demanded of all the time. So I don't know if you come across conversations not that much, Eric, but,   I guess I'm kind of provoking them.  



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Yes. I think we're very lucky to have people around you like that. I mean, where I live, I think I'm about the only person as an at the jibby jabby.   And when you say that I haven't, my neighbors sort of jump back. Oh, you haven't. Oh, oh, you can't get oh, oh, and I was supposed to say,   why?   And they're all very brainwashed, but I feel sorry for them in a way because   British   brainwashing   is the best.   And that's how we won. Sorry. I wouldn't say the word won. That's how we beat Germany   in World War two   because   our,   bullshit was better than far superior to them because   we've had lots of practice of it. I mean, when you look at who is behind all this, and, I won't go into full details,   well, they're absolutely genius   at lying.  

And that's what Britain did. They did it so well that they carried on via the BBC after long after the war, and they're still doing it today. They're very, very excellent at it. And,   I think that, when you look at Freemasonry and things like that,   well, worse than that, I think, is a great big lie. I mean, load of blokes going in the room doing whatever, holding secrets,   Very immature.   But I actually do believe that they have   brainwashed   the opposition in this country not to oppose.   And you can go to almost any,   freedom group   or anything like that, and you'll find lots of people.  

The first thing they do is get your smartphone number, and you'll get loads and loads and loads and loads of videos   of people   telling other people, especially the truth groups, what they want to hear. But   they do subtle about it. And they'll go on protest marches and things like that. Waste of time. As I've said earlier,   you've got to   understand your enemy. As the old Chinese saying, keep your friends close,   but keep your enemies closer.   And   find their chinks in the armor, and that's basically it. And know that they're brought that they're actually brainwashing us.   That's Mhmm. That's the key to it. And we look at, that farmer's,   thing down in London.  

And, what do you get? Nigel Farage coming along saying, this is the change we need.   What loose change, mate, because all the politicians   since the nineteen twenties and thirties have said, we need change. Yes. We need change. You say anything about, well, what are you gonna do about banning usury? They're off like a rocket. Because they know that if usury is banned, not only will they be out of a job, but if they talk about usury, they'll end up in a wooden overcoat  

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as a lot of them done. So Yeah. And and the welfare recipients, a lot of these farmers, just like around here, and then some of the biggest socialist you'll find.  

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Really?  

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's it's it's utter utter socialism because if their crops fail, well, the government's right there to bail them out.  

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But I won't say that that necessarily means that they're socialists. I mean, I think we've all been made that way   because, I mean, this is part of this sort of creating this dependency on the government thing. It's very subtle how it's happened.   So everybody believes they need to pay their taxes because you are told, of course, that there's the shortfall fall or whatever scams going around verbally that time. Right?   So,   taxes are gonna be put up. Council tax has got to be put up and this, that, and the other. People are obviously   observed   to be kept to a certain level of economic comfort.  

And if they wanna put pressure on you, they increase the economic discomfort. It's art the whole so called economy, in my view, is totally artificial   because the vast majority of sort of drives for   buying stuff you know, whenever they report on car buying figures and all this stuff, everybody gets completely wrapped up in it. Why?   There's only a few things that we really need to flourish, and we've got them. We've had we've had them for ages. So they have to sort of make sure you can't get them or it's tremendously difficult.   And, you know, like I was telling this guy, the the builder, he was telling me that his his tax bill   and he's not making any money. His tax bill his turnover is huge, but he's not making any profit.  

So he can't live.   His tax bill is like a hundred thousand. That's his tax bill. Not on his personal income or something. That's for his business and everything. Yeah?   And they're working flat out, and yet there's so many nibbles coming up. I'm only picking this one. You say, well, one case is not everything, Paul. And I'd agree with you. It isn't. But this is just me speaking to someone that I know nearby and the way that they spoke and addressed their situation.   And   you're right, Eric, about not and I'm in this boat too.   Now it's all you know,   this is the thing that's running around.  

Twenty odd years ago, I actually did something   stupid   because I wanted to act, but I didn't really know what I was doing. And I ended up getting my ass kicked. That led me on to this sort of situation. This is just me. Right? I will go over again. Most people here probably know it, but me to go off on a sort of research route, and many people are now on that route, and many people are on it before me, and I've stumbled along, and we're all here doing our thing. Right?   But there's something missing. It doesn't make any difference.   I'm serious. I say this to my I get up and I'm going, what am I doing? It's not that I'm disinterested in what we're doing   or not enthusiastic   about it or don't feel that there's grounds for optimism. I do. I think all of those things. But   it's a bit like what I think we're doing, this is me being slightly negative, okay,   of many people in this space. I'm able now to describe the problems to you way more   accurately and detailed than I could thirty years ago, but I'm still not doing anything about it.  

In other words, we're highly knowledgeable about the disaster that's happening to us,   and we can discuss it for a long time. And I think we need to, by the way, in lieu of anything else, but I don't think it's satisfying   at all because there's something that we're not doing. So I understand on one level, I completely agree about marches. I've never been on one. They're pointless and that you're just basically filmed and they build a file upon you. It doesn't achieve anything   in terms of who you think the target market is for your march. Who is it? Do Do you think the political establishment are gonna respond? No. They can't. You're deluded if you think that. They never have responded other than to plot more earnestly against you. Right? You actually wake them up a bit and they'll get even worse.   But if you think that going on a march is good for,   camaraderie and morale amongst other fellow sufferers, then you might do it for that reason. And there there may be a a benefit in that way. But, ultimately, we have no teeth   to get these people stopped. What stops what stops us is they put taxes up,   or they introduce a law, or they say you can't think this. They are applying force to us, positive law all the time. Where do we get   to apply force back in equal measure? We don't.  

And we're just told that we live in a free democracy and you can vote for someone. And, of course, voting is, like I said, it made any difference. It wouldn't be allowed. It's a complete sop. You know? It's,   another   yeah. I can vote. I can vote. You know? And that's great, isn't it? No. No. It's not. It's not.   Because,   it's another thing. So I'm just throwing that out. You might think I'm a whinging git. Maybe I am a whinging git. But there's something else that needs to happen. I can just feel it. I felt it for eighteen months now that it's not enough   to just keep describing it. And there are people out there know way more than I do, and we can all go off to certain sites and way more than people here. And then there are people here that know way more in other areas. Fantastic. This is great. So we're not short of truth. We're not short of knowledge. We're not short of insight, but we're short of an action plan to make it manifest,   seems to me.  

Right? And so   I think we need one or this is maybe just me. I need one is the truth of it. I actually need one. You know, a few months ago, we were talking about,   and maybe this is just more waffle and piffle,   but I I my town has got about a I looked up the population here the other day. It's a 11,000,   which is quite probably a 11,111   people. So it's one one one one one one. Right? Quite nice. I just made that up so it's it's not easy for me, so forget it. Well, a local radio thing here target at these people in a local way   is probably a really viable and sense and a good thing to do. That might galvanize in some way. So that's one aspect. I was also reading a story the other day about the Church of England.  

And, yeah, no laughing at the back there, although you'd be completely justified in doing so. And it was talking about the number it was Simon Jenkins. You might know him. He used to be a politico, Eric. He writes sometimes for the Evening Standard. I'm not a fan. It's got nothing to do with it. I just mentioned that he was the author.   And,   he was talking about the number of churches that have closed down over the last ten years, something like 3,000, but the number that are left is still huge.   And the number of people actually attend church in England   during the week is a mere 600,000   people, which is extremely tiny.  

And it's unlikely to go back up. And maybe many people would probably say jolly damn good thing because it's a silly place anyway, and I'd kind of agree with you in that way.   But the point he was making was that the buildings, the actual architectural physical buildings, these old churches in these towns and villages, little hamlets or whatever you wanna call them across England,   are often   the most impressive architectural building around.   And it's true. They are.   I don't know what it's like where you are, Eric, but here, I we've got quite a lot because we're we're we're on the Oh, yeah. Bottom of the South Downs, bordering on the sea. It's still rural in places and stuff. There's a wonderful church here nearby. I walk when I go on my walk, I go through churchyards. Even here, the churches are the most interesting looking buildings.   Yeah.  

So   and I'm looking at these buildings and thinking, now what are they really supposed to be for? They're supposed to be for the people that live in the community.   We might you know, they might have broken all these,   the laws of the bible and many of them have. Just ignore just forget that. But as a community connection center, I mean, ours is like warming to nonsea.   I'm serious. It's got there's this great church. I don't know when it was built. It's wonderful. It's really good.   There's a proper graveyard so you could film a horror movie in it, you know, with gravestones that are very old going back to 1790   stuff. Like, they're they're just around. I like to go and look at them because you get a sense of the history of the area even though I wasn't born here.  

There's a scout hut,   which is massive. And you look at this and go, it's massively underused. They've got a wonderful parish hall for meetings.   And I'm   thinking, isn't this where we need to get going? I mean, why can't we just become our own governments?   Why don't we just have our own common law courts and trial by jury?   We have to literally   let them know that we don't consent to anything that they do because they're a massive organized crime cartel. That's what they've become.   That's exactly what they've become. And yet I don't have the sentences. It's a matter of getting the understanding in the sentences, I think, and then transmitting them to people around us   Because, I will I will do some constructive criticism and moaning, Eric, going forward. Don't worry. I'll I'll keep on doing that. But there's someone else miss I just think there's something else. It's like when we were doing the thing and building our own bank,   it's just absolutely ridiculous. We just went ahead and made a bank and started printing checkbooks. Now this is in nineteen nineties. We just did one. Really?  

Yep. Started passing checks through supermarkets and everything.   They all took them. Wow. Because you need to look about what a check is. Right?   And we were being taught there were about four or five years. I wasn't right at the front of that. This was when I was coming the guy that taught me the banking was just completely didn't give him monkeys. And he wasn't a crock in that way. He was highly intelligent   and was trying to the whole purpose was to get into court.   He actually wanted to be taken to court.   That that was the whole goal of it. He never told me. I didn't wanna go.  

I thought I thought we're doing something else. So he played me. Right? And I swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. But the the byproduct was I learned a lot of things way before they were even on the Internet. And then I'm looking back at them and going, yeah, but what good did it do me? I don't know if this is a common thing or a thing that that listeners   recognize maybe, but   you think   if you can't do anything with this stuff   what is   what's the point of it? You don't like being right after the event.   It's just useless.  

You know, I I was seeing a lot of things   recently as well. I I was telling everybody this three years ago. So what?   And what do you want? A bloody medal? It didn't make any difference. I'm like this too. I could go well, so you know, because I used to go around and meet people in '96, '90 '7, '90 '8, and I'd start telling about how the banking system works. They just   basically you know, it's like, get on your bike. Go away. What are you talking about? Are you mad?   That kind of stuff. No. I'm not mad. It's true. Well, it was true. It's true now. A lot of people still know it's true. It still doesn't change it.   That's what I'm saying. So the when they say   that that knowledge is power, it isn't.  

It's an ingredient. You can't operate without it, but it's power that we need.   The ability to affect a thing. That's my definition of power, not just dominating or tyranny.   Where is our power? And it's been   it seems to me dissipated, frittered away, you know, and probably, possibly, maybe,   encouragingly,   understanding trial by jury and finding a way of reinstituting   it. And that is a big ask. I'm not underestimating   that. But if we say, look, when we did have real trial by jury and the people of the parish   participating   in the judgments   in the parish based on what was happening with the law and who'd broken it and this, that, and the other, we find that there's a great strength because surely,   if we are to operate in a lawful way,   everybody has to know what the law is, don't they?  



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Seems to me. That's right. Anyway But we're not talking these things again at school. Nope. Surely, if and it's deliberate. And this is what angers me.   We're kept in ignorance all the time.   And when I look back on my school days, history was the most boring thing ever because they didn't teach us real history. All it was the history of the old kings and queens, god knows when. And I used to fall off to sleep. Or I used to well, I say fall off to sleep. I thought my eyes were open, but my brain was switched off.   It was so unbelievably boring. Was it similar,   like, was that, like, for you, history was made boring?  



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Yep.   All the stuff that's really vital   that's got   absolute   that sort of gets hold of your bowels to get rid of it, gets hold of your actual guts,   they play it down. They make it dull. Yeah. I can kind of I I can see They push it away from you. They don't ignite you. Whereas if it was presented to you the way I suggest at times we present it or seek to,   you go, bloody hell. I mean, it's still   really is that. It's it's amazing.  

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I'm I'm kind of from a unique perspective in the sense that up until the age of, I think it was about 12,   I was   I was brought through the public schooling, the government schooling here.   Mhmm. And I agree with you. We weren't taught history,   and we weren't taught, you know, social   studies was probably about the most we'd get history out of, and it was very bland, very   dull.   And   it wasn't until I started homeschooling when I actually got a history book that was quite interesting. It was I I forget I think her name was Anne Carroll.   She wrote a book called Christ King of History.  

So it was from the standpoint that the most important,   event in human history was which we that which we base our calendar off of, which was   the life and death of Jesus Christ and his resurrection.   Right. And it wasn't until I started reading that that I actually enjoyed   learning about history   because it told a story   that you otherwise wouldn't get. But if it's not taught with that with God at the center,   it's it's almost like it's useless.   And the problem being that a lot of our our outlook today,   we forget things like Moses' the 10 commandments that were given to Moses. They were put on two tablets.   The first tablet   was in how man   in in his relation to God, which is don't put   false idols   above God,   don't take his name in vain, and keep holy the Sabbath day. Like, one day out of the week, keep that a holy day of observance to to to dedicate it to God and the day he rested after creating   all of creation.  

And then this the the second tablet   from the fourth commandment on is about man's relationship   to man   and his neighbor.   And the fourth commandment starts it off as as honor your father and mother.   And the honoring of father and mother   goes deeper than just your immediate family, but it also goes into the government,   to the civil, you know, the civil authorities, but also to the religious authorities   that when you're an orphan, you you're   basically   at their mercy.   And   I would say that that we've forgotten that. And the thing that's been attacked are these are are the principles of the family.   Because Mhmm. A lot of these people who are wicked and do evil things   don't wanna be held to account, so they want you to forget these things with the sense of justice, the sense that that God is on your side. They want you to forget that because they've been doing some very bad things,   and they know that they they're gonna be held to account if some higher you know, some more powerful authority in the in the world were to take over   Yes. And   and and bring in   justice   through through those commandments, though. You know? Like,   you would have the honor your father and mother, but then   don't murder.  

Don't don't steal. Don't bear false witness. Don't,   commit adultery.   And all, you know, all these these different things. And and it's it's been an attack on the family really   for a long time. I I was reading recently because I was listening to Joss, the boss who who has a show on WVN   yeah, yesterday, and they were talking about getting vasectomies   up in, London.   And they're going to this this Maria Stroke Clinic, it's called. And I learned I learned about this. It's it's interesting stuff, though, Paul, because   I learned more about her.  

She was her first husband was a Gates, and I think of Bill Gates. And she was Marie Stopes. You're talking about yeah. Marie Stopes. Yeah. Yeah. And then her second husband was,   I forget his first name, but his last name was Roe. And there was a   company, his brother   started called Avro Airplanes.   They made the Lancaster bomber   Mhmm. Which, you know, the Lancaster bomber in World War two, you know, the history of that. Oh, like, all these, you know, Dresden was mostly Lancasters and all this stuff. It's like,   I you can see that the evil that took place   in in   all of these things, you know, that that that person   helped to promote contraception   that just ruined the family.  

And you you're paying the consequences now by having all of these immigrants coming in, the   the legal aliens,   and taking taking over because people didn't have families. They went off and got vasectomies or they started practicing contraceptive   contraception.   And then when that didn't work, they go and kill their baby.   And now you wonder why, you know, you're a mind you're gonna be a minority in your own country.   It's like you gotta straighten out your morality first. You can't just expect that, well, it's all gonna, you know,   shift if we don't you you you have to have some accountability where the morale of people is turned around, and they they go back to the those godly principles.  

And it's it's like prayer in school. It's amazing we hear about how in even in the seventies, you had prayer in schools. Here, they took it out.   The Freemasons   took over the schools in the fifties thoroughly   and made it outlawed to have prayer in schools. Like, I when my my high school   that I would have gone to if I weren't homeschooled, I remember there was a big controversy because they had a Christmas play,   but they couldn't sing Silent Night because some Native American girl   said it was a religious theme, and she was offended. It's like, this it's just ridiculous   if, what what took place. But that's what But it's because moment. You can't talk about it. Yeah. It is.  



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White people have internalized   the command structure of the enemy. Actually, taking it seriously,   and it's it's very debilitating. This is why, you know, when I was mentioning earlier about,   this chap, I was saying that certain females of his householder relations were were appalled, you know, about the idea that we should stop migrants coming into this country because we owe them something.   We don't.   We don't owe them anything.   And you you could then say, no. No. You've got to look at all this evidence. Well, I say, no. We don't. You see, something as well, it comes down to will.   How do we want to live?  

If you're gonna be at the beck and call in the effect of every single thing and every decision that happened in history,   then surely we should all be moving to Rome because the Romans came here and, took over. And, also, you know, I need, we need the French because the Normans came in and wrecked it all as well. He's there's no end to this, this sort   of long line of victimhood.   It's it's a nonsense,   but it's proving to be very effective, particularly when white people internalize it. And and that's the thing I was talking about maybe before is how do you set your own people on fire when they're full of, like, wet wood?   I don't know.  

We talk about leaders. I know Eric rightly talks against them,   but I'm also of the view that we're hardwired, and a genuine one   would be great. However, I have no idea,   a, how I would identify one,   b, how they would actually operate. Because I think in the past,   there has been a whatever we may think about it, and we're not the only nation to actually have leaders and kings,   all nations have had them. So there's something hardwired in us as a tribe   to get behind the person that we think is the best to govern at this time. Because if we don't get behind him, that tribe's coming over the hill, and they're gonna kill all the men, they're gonna rape all the women, they're gonna kill half the women, and my children are gonna die. Figure. That's why it's like the macrocosm  

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of the family.   I mean, the nuclear family is the microcosm, and the   the state and the church are the macrocosm.   And I would say that the church is above the state.  

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Well, I mean, I I think, you know, in a in a in a true understanding of what a church is, there is no separation, I would suggest, between church and state. It's just the one thing. It's the meeting of the elders to decide how life is to be lived. And, of course, p the but church is getting into all their singing and all that other stuff   is actually a problem for me because I think it reduced them and removed from where they're supposed to be. So I guess what I'm talking about, even though it is, is the community center.  

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She's enough to make you throw up in a way. Back to something. I was reading today about, Saint Peter Damien from it was like he was in the, like,   01/1950,   you know, around that era,   just before you had the,   the invasion.   What was that? The Norman invasion with William the conqueror and all that? Yep. Mhmm. Okay. So it was around that time,   and I was reading into it. He wrote a book about the life of some other saint that existed from the September into the thousands.   And   he found these monasteries, and in one of these monasteries, one of the monks actually came up with modern musical note notation,   like the do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do. And then they have the the the line where the notes would be. It's like this guy in Italy came up with that,   and that was the basis for all of just the music that proceeded from it that up until, you know, Mozart and Beethoven and all these other things, these great things that we call Western   civilization. So   I I would say that the church really does, if you look at it, have a very vital role   in upholding civilization   to a point where   those things are good, but they've just been preferred.  

Yeah. We look at we listen to music these days, the rap type music or the country music here,   and it's just   who who wants to who wants to their mind   ride from the inside out, you know, listening to that kind of stuff?  

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Yeah. I mean, I think the the problem is is that young people, I were the young people once, were born into it. You're born into the age that you're born into. You actually don't know any better when you're up. You just don't know.   You know? So I remember sort of like in the seventies, it was a bit like my mom and dad's music was from a completely different world.   I mean, the the whereas everything since I would suggest since since Chuck Berry, it's all in the same line.   Very much so. I think it is. You know? And what they've what they've found recently I know we talk about music, but I think it's important. What I think they found this century is they've just got this highly sophisticated production system for creating these perfect, blemish free, tedious records,   which are basically bland, tenth rate copies of things that were fresh, interesting, and arresting in the last fifty years of the previous century. There's nothing really new.  



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And, most of the people that are involved in it, just don't have sufficient talent. And it I think it's because of the circumstances that we've grown up in as well. There's all this. It's like it's like, do you wanna really attach yourself to the morality that's being proposed in these songs that people sing? It's like, we don't know. No. Really, when you look at it, it's destroying the family. It's destroying any sort of harmony   in society.   Whereas, like, you look at the those monastic times, they were taking the books. Right? They didn't have a printing press. A lot of this stuff was passed on through tradition, through oral tradition,   where you would memorize the Psalms,   and they would sing them every day so that they would remember them. How how better to remember something than by singing it?  

It's it's little things like that, that have, you know, you've we've just kind of lost our our purpose, especially   the the fact with the sexual degeneracy.   It's like, well, what's the purpose if you're not having children and there's no future generation for you?  

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Why why why even care about any of this stuff? And I think that's where most people are at. It's like, why even care? Are you just a debt slave? Well, there is that. Yeah. I get that response. Well, I won't be around to deal with it. Someone said that to me the other day. I said, how do you know you don't get born back into it again to actually deal with it?   Maybe it's our duty to deal with it. This is our great I mean, I don't know. I'm just speculating it. Judgment.   Well yeah.  

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But that most people don't believe in that. They just blot that out of their mind because it's like, well, I just don't want the pleasures of today unless the whatever.   You know? Yeah. It's their their mentality.  

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I mean, just I mean, coming back to this sort of communication thing as well.   And, Eric, I'd be interested to know what you how how you think about it.   I guess one of my   forming I guess this is common to many people is, hey. If we just go around   and keep revealing these   hitherto hidden truths to people,   point them in the right direction,   it's just gonna change. Right? I never figured out how it was supposed to change, but, of course, it doesn't.   However, I'm quite glad that I labored under that slight misconception for for several decades because it's what is a motivating force. It drives you. Apart from which getting up on the money, I don't know what else to do with my time that would be as sensible as that. I mean, I'm still looking for something that's a little bit more sensible and more effective.   I mean, what do you do? Do you go into politics? Shudder.  

But maybe we are in politics. We're just kind of,   you know, off to one side down the corridor. But, really, if politics is   the making decisions about how we're gonna live, then it is about how we live under what law. And then we find out that our law systems buggered up and everything. But,   you know, what am I asking you, Eric? You know, what's your drive around this? What is your drive around it? Yeah. I don't I'm sort of picking around a bit because find  

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look into yourself   and find something that you   find easy   that will change things. Some people are skilled at communications.   Others   are not.   And my view is to laugh at them and keep laughing at them. And we should be jeering,   Starman now like anything. We should be whistling Laurel and R. We we Laude tune. We should be jeering him like anything. The man   is well, he's not he's beyond idiot.   I don't think he's human. There's something mentally wrong with the man. Yes, sir. Will.   Yep. To think that   why does he keep poking   bear, I. E. Russia,   all the time   when   who the hell wants to get involved?  

Russia doesn't want to attack the rest of Europe. I have no intention of doing it. And they may they wanna make it look as if,   Russia is going into   Ukraine because they want to go through and take over all of Europe. The same nonsense was said at the beginning of the second World War and the beginning of the first World War. If Russia wants to take the whole of Europe, they would have been in Poland by now.   So that is you know, you've only got a look on the Atlas. Why would they go to Ukraine?   Ukraine   is is, to me, is like Vietnam War.  

In but where the Vietnam War designed the culture. It seemed to me yeah. Sorry.   Well, I think it's designed   yeah. Go on. Very quickly. It was a sustainable war. That's what they called it. What that meant   is it was great for the military complex. There were there was spent they were getting loads and loads of money for the government,   and it's being destroyed.   And I think this is what Starmer is after, a sustainable war. And also it calls the youth that that what war could they want?  

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Sorry. I I I I carried on that I shouldn't have done. No. No. No. It's it's you just sparked off so many ideas because I think you're right. I mean, I think Vietnam is a completely bogus situation. I think Ukraine is. It's not genuine, is it? The reasons that you're given for these things are not the right they're not the reasons that are actually propelling it forward. These are just sort of newspaper spin.   And and I so when we're talking to people who just read the papers, they go, oh, yeah. Putin's bad. I go, no.   What? You think Putin's good? I didn't say that either.  

What do you think is going on?   I mean,   the Ukraine thing is to bring about something else.   It's not about the Ukrainians   I mean, it's insane when you actually wind it back. That's why they've gotta put this, what's his name, this penis piano playing idiot in charge to create this differentiation.   Right?   It's as if we were to have a war with Cornwall.   Shout out to Shelly and Maleficus. I don't want any wars with Cornwall because we need all your cream   and, all that clotted cream. So but I'm it's just mad that we're the same people. You go, oh, yeah. Well, they won't sell us clotted cream, so we're gonna have a war with Cornwall. What? It's it's it's much more than that. It's much more than that. It's to do with these tunnels. It's to do with those mRNA   vaccine factories. There's something and Ukraine is noted now as it comes up as being one of the most corrupt nations going. You only need to find out who's in charge of it to know why. Then you look at that bin newland and what they were doing in 02/2014.  

This has been orchestrated on purpose to create another conflagration   in which,   Europeans are gonna exhaust themselves killing one another. And then Donald's gonna turn up and solve it, or maybe he's not depending on how things are gonna go, and something else will happen.   But there's always behind it this   unfolding plan   for concentrating ever more power in ever fewer hands.   You can feel it everywhere, Edmond. It's you have to be a genius. I can't but also,  

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what about the other look on it? And the trouble is I gotta be careful what I say because I don't want people to think I'm anti semolina.   No. Don't wanna think that. No. We don't wanna be anti Semolina.   Oh, no. No. No. No. No.   And,   I threw out a packet, by the way, the other day. It was,   it's 10 old. But, anyway, that's another that's another story. But I was gonna say is that   the Ashkenazi   people come from what is now Ukraine.   And there is a belief that,   Israel wants it. I don't know.   I'm just stating what other people say. Wants Ukraine   to be the greater Israel.  

And   what they want other people to fight for it. Again, whether that's true or not, I do not know. I just wonder what,   other people's views are on this and whether they got any more information on it.  

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Well, I remember working on a case about the whole financial collapse in 02/2008.   The dude is called the, JPMorgan   Chase or Lehman Brothers versus JPMorgan   Chase was the big one.   And Lehman Brothers being the ones with, most of these old old Soviet,   you know, apartment complex lease programs and and then property   sales and mortgages   on all of these old   buildings   in Ukraine and   in Russia, the, you know, former Soviet Union countries. And I think all the companies like BlackRock and all of these other   mega corporations that are buying up property there are the ones that are gonna benefit. And then what they'll do is that they wanna bring in just like they're doing to you. They wanna bring in people from India and other places and just populate it with people that'll work for cheap.   Seems to be what the what's going on. It'll be like any other place in Europe.  

Kinda like America. America, you can go from city to city and it's pretty much the same   format. It's like a fractalization   everywhere you go.   The same small town set up with a McDonald's and a Walmart and Target and, you know, oh, there's a variety. You can either go to Walmart or Target. Right? You got a choice, at least. Mhmm.   And then then they'll just repeat, rinse, and repeat.   And you live in a row house somewhere, and   I   don't know. Pay your dues to the local lodge. Whatever whatever   system they've got going here   is just gonna be applied there. And and but Russia is kind of,   you know, they they suffered Bolshevik   revolution. They have they're paying for   what they did   back then. You know, there's some major atrocities that were committed, and and today, they're they're   doing their penance for it. And at the same time, I think Russia is one of the more Christian countries   in the world right now,   building new churches more than anywhere else in Europe,   and also mosques for that matter, but still more churches than anywhere else in the, you know, Europe that I know  

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of. I mean, it's interesting what you say about Russia doing penance because I I I can't see that really, Patrick,  

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because I don't view the Russian revolution as being Russian. Mean, by that, I mean, they're lose they're losing people, and they've got a war on their hands. I mean, this is this is a consequence of what they've done.  

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What what have they done? Countries to, legalize abortion,  

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That sort of thing. Who? Russia? Russia. Yeah. But back in the Soviet days, they started But was that Russia under the this is this is the big reason for the what we what we what Putin represents now? I I Well, everything's polluted.  

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You know, when people it's it's all polluted. Who's who was it at the time that was making these decisions? You know? That's the thing. It's like with the British Empire.  

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He's he's he's hated here by the   the right people as far as I'm concerned.   The the same people that are all for these, you know, these these trainee mammy pimp type people, you know, these these women that make   cut off the balls of their sons type type of person.   They hate Putin for what he represents, whether he rightfully deserves that that position, but,   they they don't allow open homosexuality   there like they do here. And and then the predator nature of of these these,   sodomites, you know, that sort of thing is is not looked upon good there. And if you started to say, well, you know, we can   gays marry just like any other heterosexual   marriage. It's the same thing just like we have here in the West   and in Western Europe. It's it's a   you're not gonna stand a chance there because men are still men,   and   they're different than they are in the West. We're soft. We're fat and happy and lazy.  

And I wouldn't say happy. I would say we're fat and   docile   compared to them.   They live in a poorer situation, though, because of the years of Bolshevism   that's ruled them. And still, to an extent, it has a foothold there, too.   And that but that's that's why there's a war going on there. It's because there's still that element   in that place   where the the war is going on that clings on to the the Bolshevik ideals.   And yet at the same time, it's facing   neo bullshit bull bullshitism.   I was gonna say,   may as well be. I think bullshitism  

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is it is. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. We caught that.  

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It's the wake up bullshitism.  

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Yes. Come out. It's tear stommer. It is bullshitism. Your bullshit. It was the nineteen seventeen bullshit revolution. You mean bullshit? No. Bullshit.   And,   yeah. Absolutely.   Well, this is what I I mean, I think it's complex. I think it's really complicated. I think there's multiple sort of little goals and all sorts of things. One of them is to create this Vietnam Vietnam, you're helping Vietnamese fight Vietnamese. And then in Ukraine, you've got Russians fighting Russians.  

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That's what it boils down to.  

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I don't know why it's a problem. Why can't they be just left alone? Why does anybody have to get involved? Oh, why it's like back in, you know, in Dresden and all that stuff. Why did they have to have Hamburg and I know.  

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Why didn't they just sit and talk with Hitler?   Why didn't Churchill sit down with Hitler and talk just like he did with Stalin with uncle Joe? I mean,   Hitler and Stalin were just as bad as each other. Why why why draw a difference? And if you're talking about, well, the evil Nazis are they're gonna have these eugenics programs. Well, take a look in the mirror. You know? Like I was telling you about that row, the Avro guy.   His brother started the Lancaster. You know? I mean,   it they're just as bad, and you've got the stope's clinics,   all over Britain killing babies. So,   how are you any different than than evil Nazis   in that regard, Britain   or America?  

How how are these militaries more just   than than that military that was defeated?  

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Because, literally, everything they've accused people are suffering from suffer from naughty Nazi syndrome. So, it's the Nazis.   Everything they've accused and so Nazis of doing,   we are doing now.   Think about it. Exactly. Yeah. And in fact, far worse.   Thousand times worse   than then.   And,   this is   it's just it's just,  

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it really just make you think what what what what kind of intransigence. It just continues on to the state like you're talking about not wanting to be anti Semolina.   Well, you know,   Dresden was the head of the anti Semolina party   back in the 1880s, and   and it was also the head where the king of Poland Poland lived. You know?   That too. So   and then what was the war about? Well,   Germany invading Poland. Well, you know, those those people are neighbors. It's German fighting German at a certain point, you could say.  

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You might be able to help here, Patrick, because,   a mate of mine, unfortunately, he passed away some years ago.   He was the chappy that I, spoke to about the Mozart myth. That's another subject. But he was a music historian, and he believed that Mozart was a load of nonsense.   But but that's for another show.   But he, sent me a book on PDF,   written by a chap who believed that   he had all the evidence that the Vietnam War was contrived,   and   the   the two sides are actually in,   talks all the time,   to just keep it going.   And,   Nixon put a spar in the works,   and I've lost it. So anybody knows what the book it is or anybody knows anything about this book, I'd be most grateful because he got it on PDF. He found it on the Internet, but I can't remember the author's name or anything like that.  

But he this author has spent years looking into it,   and   the America could have won Vietnam   in a year or two,   but they were kept back, and there was a reason for that. Again Yep. What what was the reason?   Sustainable war. It's the, military industrial complex.   Wanted a lovely, juicy war, and you see how much money they made. Look at all those bombs falling from the planes. Right. Look at all the armaments. All the bullets   will be manufactured.  

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No no doubt. Yeah. That was nice. Stressed Texas oil men making mullah for that.   Yeah.  

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So Well, Eli James has been a guest on here, and some people will know him. And,   he just had a triple heart bypass, actually, just to let you know, about ten days ago. He's doing quite well. Yeah. He's doing alright.   I've told him to stay away from the microphone because he's an eager video. But,   so shout out to you, Eli. Keep getting well. But he fought in Vietnam.   And his personal anecdotes,   yeah, he was there. And his personal sort of testimony is exactly this,   that he realized I don't know how long, maybe six months or something he would obviously be able to tell you. I'm paraphrasing it from memory. But   he he'd been stationed out there, and he realized pretty soon that the whole organization running it was designed to be lost.  

And he wasn't alone in that.   It was almost like planned incompetence   by design,   and they were getting a lot of instructions from the United Nations.   Right. Yeah. So, you know, that's gonna go well. So it's a way of exhausting America, demoralizing   America. Career was a bit of a sort of fifty fifty situation, wasn't it? But turning you into the global policeman going around, but not being in control of your own forces because you gotta go to the United Nations, which is global communism,   and so on and so forth. So   all of these conflict, they don't feel right. They never they just don't feel right, do they? Many of them don't feel right. Maybe the older you go back, they're more genuine in the sense that a tribe's coming over, they're gonna steal all our stuff. Well, that's that. And you couldn't preplan ahead of time because nobody had telegraphs or telephones or anything like that or even a printing press. Well, I was just wondering if you reading the David Irving book on Dresden that a lot of the people involved in the bombing  

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didn't learn or see any of the aftermath until the sixties   of what they had done. And some of these people were just in shock.   They, you know, they thought they were doing it to, you know, clear the military   infrastructure that was based there. That's what they were telling them, and it's a just full just cause. Well,   one of the first targeting   places that were targeted   was the largest hospital in Central Germany, and it was a Catholic elderly home and and sick care   hospital.   That was the first target   that Mhmm. That the the Lancasters came down and marked for bombing.   It's like,   these people were just sick, and it but their their purpose is to wipe out as many people as possible.  



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Well, I think Dennis, you know, when he was on last week, touched upon it, which is that it was a  

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a sacrificial offering to their god. Yeah. We'll think it was. Vietnam. I I had another friend of mine who used to work in the military, and and he said that they would load up jets with with bombs, and they'd come back empty every time.   So it's just massive bombing raids on helpless people.   And they load. They weren't the the military   most of the time. They were going after civilians, and and it's just utter murder. Well, remember what I said last week about that school teacher,  

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and he was in, the Far East during the war,   where the RAF were   using the same base as the United States Army Air Force at that time.   And what he said when he walked out,   from teaching us, he was a contract teacher.   He said,   they were ordered. He was on the he wasn't a pilot. I think he was a, ground crew. He said the the the the pilots were ordered. They'd run out of targets over Japan to shoot at civilians, and anything that moved, they've got to terrorize the civilians.   And he said, you won't find that in the history books, but I know that's true because I witnessed it.  

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And, that was it. But so purpose was to demoralize the people.  

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Yes. More than anything. And they said shoot up hospitals, Red Cross, anything. Anything moves.   I've never forgotten that.   Yep.   And and and and he was very wise, but, I mean, he's obviously dead by now. But,  

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you know, very, very wise what he said about it. Why these schools are set up military,   and they don't teach them the Christian   beliefs because of that. They they want them to be killers to go and and murder these the people, the poor people,   because all wars are bankers' wars. And they're all it's all about money, and it's all about   subjugating people as much as possible. And what better way to do it than just to go after everybody that they consider a burden on society? And   it's it's madness, though, when you think about it.   What what is the point of this? What why kill so many people?  



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Indeed. Nicely.   Gentlemen, we're towards the end of the second hour in our little stay here on WBN. So I'm gonna I'm gonna do an overlap track.   So we'll be back we're gonna carry on. So if you wanna carry on and listen to the show, we'll be carrying on for a little while longer. I don't know how much longer over on rumble.com   and elsewhere. If you wanna carry on listening, go to paulenglishlive.com.   Click one of the links there on the left, particularly Rumble if you wanna get in with all these chatting types. Very lively in there. Thank you very much, all the chatters.   I'm gonna just play us out with a little song now. We'll be back again next week where we should have Monica Schafer back, and we're gonna talk about how to remove the vote from women.  

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.   Say no more. Have a cracking week. We'll be carrying on now, but we'll see you next week as well. Bye for now.  

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Oh, get one, conform romance. No thanks. Pay your debt. Get stressed. Protest.   Larger by the fake blast. Please her please him. White male cyclists are racist. Twenty years fooling and they put you on the day shift. Look out, Brits. They keep it all hit. They're the dumb down the man's role. Send them out to battle. Alastair Campbell lied to all the cattle. They blame it all on the Russian. They want a new come. The crook covered up the gym. He's having scandals.  

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Yeah. Daniel Bostock with The UK UK Homesick   Blues, and we've all got them, don't we, in The UK. But, if you're in America, you might not have The US Homesick Blues. You've got the original track from Bob Dylan. That's obviously   yeah. You got the original. You got the original. The only Bob Dylan track I like. How about that? And it's purely because the videos Same here. Filmed in London, of course. But that's about it. Same here. That you know, isn't that funny? I I I want to that that's the only one that's worth listening. So it is very clever the way it's done.   It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. And lyrically, he's he's amazing and all that kind of stuff. It don't mean it doesn't do anything for me, so it's, it's one of those things. But that I know. That that I really yeah. I like that. But I prefer Bostock's version even better because it's got culturally relevant lyrics, Patrick. You see. But, yeah, you you did get the original.  



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Have you heard the one by Bostock? Was it a far right arts brilliance? Yes.  

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Yes.   I'll dig that up. We will. I think we can play that in twenty minutes. Yeah. I know.   You're laughing already.  

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Alright.   Yeah.   I wish you'd do more.   He'd really ought to do more.   Yeah.   Well, he gets he gets, like, he gets a bit tired out like we all do, really. I think we all get a bit tired out. You know? So Any guesses what the outrage is gonna be, what Russia is gonna be accused of. So come on. What what Cheating at cards. Ideas?  

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Cheating at bridge.  

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Could be.   Blowing a raspberry,   maybe. Pewdie blew a raspberry, maybe.   Yeah. We we or I actually think it's gonna be either,   invading a country,   which it won't he won't be doing,   or,   some sort of chemical attack or something like that. Well, I know. I can go over the Kia if they wanted to.   What about,   the child's shoe? Because I've always gotta put a picture,   of cold shoe on top of some smoldering rubble.   That always  

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breaks people's hearts. More effect? Sorry? Can we get a get a whole pile of them?  

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Yes. Yes.   Russia hits a   I don't know. Hit a school in in,   a No. They already did. Like oh, we've done that. Yeah. They  

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yeah. You get something original.   I don't know what they could do.   They had the bears.   You know? Yeah. It's be bears. It's a bunch of wild bears into some village in Ukraine and   let have it go   go wild.  

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Well, do you know what Russia did during World War two?   They got a load of stray dogs,   and they taught them   to,   straps,   explosives to them and taught them to look on tanks   as food.   Oh. And,   the dogs would run all the tanks and get flown up. So there's only one slight problem that they overlooked.   The dogs couldn't tell the difference between German tanks Wonderful. And Russian tanks.   And it turned and the entire division in reverse because these dogs were chasing t 30 fours all around the battlefield.   Sorry I shouldn't laugh.   These poor little dogs out. It's very cruel. I think there was a film made about it,   that it was horrendous. Yeah.  



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Well, that's that's pretty bad.   Yes. That's all good.   But why not say that? Is that is that so basically, there's some idea  

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that Russia's gonna be accused of something. Is that what you're saying? That's what oh, yeah. Because every war, you've got to have an outrage. You think first World War, outrage. Second World War, outrage. Look at Vietnam.   Baof Tonkin.  

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It didn't even happen. It was all arranged. So it's gonna be something that Who's gonna wanna happen, though? That's the question. Like, who's who's dumb enough to join the military and get out there and fight?  

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Well, look at 1939.   Yeah. Britain was anti war.   Right. And Yeah. Well, that's true. The Oxford Union debate same with Wilson in World War one in America. Is that now there was the,   Oxford Union debate where they said and I can't I can't remember it for the basic, but it was no man in this room will fight in another war.   Then my father remembered it. Within a few weeks, they turned it around where mister h was the angel   of the press to the most evil   specimen you could ever wish to find,   and people   fell for it.   And it was because of propaganda.  

It was brilliant propaganda. So this country which antiwar to pro war There's another problem.  

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That's right. I I think Peter Hitchens wrote a book about that   where Yep. The churches were used as a means of of recruiting for,   you know, battle   battle ready soldiers   ready to go martyr themselves for a godly cause.  

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That'd  

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be awesome. Then when it came down to actually doing things and then the reports came back of massacres, and you all of a sudden, you have big protests and that sort of thing. It's like an example would have been father Coughlin here in America. He was a radio priest.   He was all for Roosevelt, and Bill Roosevelt   showed signs that he was gonna go and start a war. And then he became the most vocal person and then took his radio license away thinking that, you know, okay, shut him up. And then they they brought in this other priest named Fulton Sheen,   who who, actually, you know, Martin Martin   Sheen and Charlie Sheen. It's not their real name. It's something like Rodriguez, but they changed their name to, you know, to sound more Catholic   because of bishop Sheen. But then come Vietnam War, he was he had seen enough, and he he's like, these people fooled me back in   World War two to to get   me to make it seem like it was a just cause   to go off and and fight the evil Nazis,   but I never again. And it it's like they there was a regret later in life when he, you know, you had a chance to reflect on what he was doing. But it's the damage gets done, and then you can't what can you do?  



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Was he the child that did the nineteen fifties  

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shows? Yeah. He had a YouTube.   He's very interesting. Is worth life is worth living on NBC. It was one of the they they started it out. It was one of the first TV shows, and it was supposed to be,   representing the religions in America, the three major ones. It was a Protestant preacher,   a Jewish rabbi, and then a Catholic priest, and he was the Catholic priest.   And the other two were just so boring that they're like, oh, let's just give him a show, and then he ended up having a show in the fifties called life is worth living. I think it went to the sixties until he started speaking out against the the war  

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in Vietnam. He was really good. I I enjoyed some of his stuff because,  

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he had called sense of humor as well. He cracked Yeah. Well, he was well known in the forties. He took over for Coughlin.   They had this thing called the Catholic Radio Hour   where Coughlin   would come on and he Coughlin would,   talk about how Roosevelt was no better than the Nazis or the Bolsheviks. They're all the same. They're sitting there preaching socialism, and they're all   trying to get us into a war.   We promised not to.   But they didn't like that, and then they came up with some sort of commission that said, well, you have to have a radio license approved by the the government in order to broadcast. And then they   they,   you know, he went away into obscurity. And then, Jack Warner of Warner Brothers   hired   Fulton Sheen to do the Catholic radio hour,   and he took over. And he was all for this noble cause to go and kill the, you know, the evil Hun and and   and and blanking blanketing it with the church's blessing   as though it was some sort of noble thing to go after   Germany   the way they did. And it's just other lies   in order to get people to fight.  

So they'd use religion. Religion   is, you know, it's a powerful thing.   And when it's abused like that, that's when wars happen. I mean, all of these wars are religious wars when you think about it. Look at what Zelensky did, outlawing the Russian Orthodox Church   in Ukraine, which their their brothers   in the faith,   the the Ukrainian   Orthodox there,   and   they're forced to pick sides.   And then you look down what's happening in Palestine,   that's a huge religious   conflict.   I mean, you can't but notice that it's all about religion.   So religion is at the core of all of this, and when the religions go bad, society go goes bad. We're paying the consequences.  



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I agree. It's true. Whatever we may think about it in terms of I you're absolutely right. Because it is the basis of all the law comes from religions.  

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Well, god's law is the basis. It's it's the supernatural law. Like, it's so natural.   It's supernatural. It's the source of all nature. So you could say natural law   is based on supernatural law,   in that chart.   And that's given to us by divine revelation, and that's in a particular time in history   that's taken place.  

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Yeah. You can say, well, if you're interested in the There's so many yeah. There's so many subtle benefits and sort of positives that we've lost that you only   realize it when you start to think about them. Earlier on,   Patrick, you mentioned, and it made me think about my time at school,   the fact that they used to be assembly and school prayer.  

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Right? Yeah. Before like, we'd have the pledge of allegiance. That was, like, the closest we got to mentioning God   because they added the words in the fifties.  

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America. Well, I remember infant school, and I think junior school up to the age of 11, we had   morning prayer. When I got to grammar school   did we? I don't think we did. We but it would there would be a regular sort of school meeting once a week or something, and maybe something was said then. Maybe there's a chaplain wheeled in, you know, or something like that. But I know when we were younger, there's some   there's certain aspects of it that you can't intellectualize that are just good. You know, I'm sat back thinking about it thinking, well, everybody stood there together just being one momentarily, even if it's only for thirty seconds.   These things are very powerful. They've all been removed, and it's part of this sort of, what's the word, atomization   of us all, the breakup of families, the breakup of sort of cultural tribal cohesion.  

These are sort of whatever people may think about it and there's nothing wrong with people   getting together and saying a prayer. Of course, it's been made out as the most evil thing ever.   And I think an inquiry into what true prayer prayer is is personally rather intriguing.   I'm interested in that. I I think it's almost like a silent process. But I'm not against any of these things because, historically, they've taken place. It wouldn't matter what I think. They've already happened.   They're in the record book as it were. This is how we've got to this point. But I   the basis of law being religious drive is is true. We've got this situation now, which is obviously   conforming absolutely to historical   record,   which is that the more   lively members of our recent arrivees here,   are getting livelier and livelier. And it's only a matter of time before that liveliness spills over into   unconscionable unpleasantness and sordid nestiness, if you know what I'm saying. It just seems to me almost inevitable because that's what it was designed to do. Well, yeah, just reflecting on what happened over the summer over there. You had the the riots and all that sort of thing  

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that took place. I remember that incident in Manchester where the policeman   sat and, you know, drop kick the guy in the head   that sits on the floor.   And then the riots that happened after that, and Tommy Robinson's rally and all this stuff, trying to get people all riled up and to go out in the streets and protest. Like Eric said, what good does that do you? What what good is it gonna do you? It doesn't it, like, dissipates your focus.  

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It makes people think that they're doing something when in fact they're doing nothing.   I I went and did this thing. What what's that? What does it actually result in? It's why focusing by the way, just on this assembly thing, Exxon makes a nice little comment here.   He says, do you know what? He writes, I recall no kids playing up during assembly. It's true.   We were very well behaved.   There's a a moment of peace.   Were you? Were you bad? Were you was it you, Eric? Well,  

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you see,   always one. We we sang our own words.   We sang our I was sent out of assembly   because we sang our own words to the to the Sims. And most of them were what we relied off of our fathers from the army.   So we never sung because   I wouldn't like to repeat what we sung for that. And a few others that we had our own right words for.   That's actually someone broke wind loudly   at in an assembly. No. That gave me the British school? That's right. Assembly. I've never heard of something. What happened.   We had these old World War two type microphones. You know you know the ones that they had, you probably had them in your school. And they were they're and they picked up everything from the audience, but hardly anything from the stage.   And there was a kid, I always remember,   his name was Card.  

That was his surname, Card. And he stood there in front   of the front of the stage, and he gave out the loudest,   shall we say,   flatulence you could ever wish to hear. And, I just couldn't stop laughing. I was sent out for laughing. I just couldn't it just hit my funny bone,   because he timed it just right when the was there. And you said, I came I always remember this line. She said, as I came into this school,   I smelled one of the roses,   and they smelled half of it. Just let it go.   So it still makes me laugh at this time.  

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So, really, you could say that he really   he really was a bit  

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of really was a bit of a card, was he, Eric? He certainly was a bit of a card. I've never forgotten that. And,   no, he's a poor sod. He had a he come from a huge family, and he wore his brother's hand me downs. She had a pair of trousers on that were about four inches above the ankle,   shirt hanging out the back,   National Health glasses held together with sticky plaster. And that that was a sort of and I actually heard   that, because he was a very, pretty clever kid. I actually and he was always put upon.   And, the bullies used to bully him a bit because, you know, he's so shortsighted.  

And I actually heard many years later that he went to America,   to a university, and he's doing very, very well   in America. Great. So good for him. Good for old card. You know?   Someone suggested, I think it's echo exo said, give Eric a whoopee cushion. He'd be lethal.   Well, I believe that we should this now this is positive thought. We get whoopee cushions,   fill them with gravy, and put them on the seats of the House of Commons,   if you could get in there. Now wouldn't that be fun?  

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It would be fun.  

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Yes. Sorry. I've been very laboratorial.  

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But Oh, yeah.  

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No. Well, it's it's very unusual for me to get laboratorial, isn't it? It is. I'm a bit shocked. Yes. Well, you know, you do the same here in congress, and then when Netanyahu comes to show up and they do a standing ovation, then they sit back down every time. You know?  

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But   I actually look on on a sort of serious note as the family   as the brickwork   of a wall,   and the mortar religion is the mortar that holds everything together.   So without the mortar, the wall falls over unless you Well, you can say it's the foundation  

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even. Yeah. You know? Yes. It's the right side. Sand or rock. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I mean, I I know it's   it's it's relatively   common for people to say, well, look   look at the way we're behaving and everything. And, of course, we don't behave with as much strength, I think, or as   focus or as dedication to moral and ethical behavior as our forefathers did. This is true.   But a good question to ask is, well, how did we get to this point? What is it that's brought about   this change in attitude, behavior, whatever you wanna call it? And you you have to you you end up looking at certain areas because these are the areas that have affected the behavior, for example, mainstream media.   Mass media has conditioned all of us   to view life through the particular, you know, lens that mass media provides us. These are parameters for life. Right? These are all the shoes. These are the really trendy shoes. You don't want these. These are bad shoes. You, if you're gonna get underwear, get this in my don't get day mount thermolactic underwear, all these sorts of things. These pressures of and we've become more focused as individuals, or we certainly did during the seventies and the eighties. The eighties particularly was about maybe made loads of money. That's what I'm told. I had to remember it being about loads of money for me. Was it loads of money for you, Eric? Maybe it was. You Yes. Rich, swanky architects sponsoring around having a great time.  



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I was I was, what they call a bleeping shabby or a,   what they call mercenary in the trade because I was freelance.   So Right. I would probably,   have about four or five projects under my belt in a year and probably see more projects than most people have had in their entire career.   But the problem is when you contract,   you're asked in in a crisis.   So all you're working is a constant crisis all the time. Get paid for it. Yes. But you become   unfortunately,   you do become very mercenary when you do that. And what I mean by mercenary, I'm not talking about killing people or anything like that. But you're there for the biggest buck. And, you know, you could do a start of contract, and you get another contract that's even more. You go to that contract.   So and I realized after a while that I thought what's happening to me. It was changing me. And that's not me. I'm not that sort of person.  

So,  

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yeah, but I wasn't I mean, I do feel like yeah. I know. I kinda feel like an old fart in a way. I can't believe I am an old fart, but I must be getting on for that. Where were middle aged fart or something? But I keep looking back to the nineteen hundreds thinking it was just a lot more fun.   It was. Now but is that because I was younger, and therefore you've got less responsibilities   or you're doing your best to avoid the ones that are being dropped on you? That's always a you know, you're ducking and diving and this, that, and the other, and it was. And and, also, you're not getting any real commitment. So there's that aspect to it.   But it's just the it's this sort of weird town   of the political   so called leadership space.  

The whole thing reeks of, you know, weirdo computer techno   interference nonsense. It's as if the human element   isn't there, and then you have to look at Starmer to realize that it isn't there. There isn't a human element. There's just a subtle automaton.  

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Yeah. How does he get there? How do these people AI must have put him there.  

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I don't know. We blame our eye for everything now, don't we? But he's got no purse zero personality.  

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How does a person with zero personality   get there? And   I really do believe that, I think it was,   someone said that these people have got, more skeletons in the closet than the bleeding cemetery.   I think it's true because,   they don't put a foot foot out of plates.   Otherwise,   that's it. I mean, this is what happened with Nixon.   Nixon brought Vietnam War to an end. He shouldn't have done. That's without the Watergate crisis.  

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Yeah. Have you heard some of those recordings they made of him? I think it was, who was it? He was talking to that famous preacher.   Yeah. Another one. Remember his name. Billy Graham. Billy Graham. Billy Graham.  

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Yeah.   Billy.   Sorry.  

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We yeah. Okay. So yeah.   Anyway, he he he knew the score. He knew what was going on, but, Yes. He did. They really went after him. They went after Spiro Agnew, his vice president, got him to resign,  

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or or So the I mean, this is a good thing. This came up, didn't it, in that clip with Tucker Carlson that I played maybe three or four weeks back,   where he was talking about the whole of the Watergate thing and that Nixon was just basically attacked and set up, and you wouldn't have known it at all. And that Bob Woodward is not a journalist. He's just a CIA guy dropped in there. Just put mask of course, they made a film about him with Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman. It's all blabber. Yeah. And then Gerald Ford came in as president and Nelson Rockefeller Frankenstein. Rockefeller   was his vice president. Well, maybe Frank maybe,   Ford was the sort of prototype for Keir Starmer. They cut from the same dead cloth. I mean, he he had, you know Yeah. But I wouldn't because he's he's very interesting by comparison to Starmer. But at the time, he was a supreme wooden dulard   and, of course, was only there because he'd, what, served on the Warren Commission. So it's all about covering these things. But I I wouldn't call Rishi Sunak, Nixon.  



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Would you?  

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No. No. No. No. No. I think the the the sort of the analogy fails immediately when we get into things like that. There's nothing but, I mean, even coming back to the Starmer situation,   the other thing that's noticeable,   if you want to put some effort to try noticing it, is yeah. There aren't any there's no one in parliament that can speak   at all.   There's no opposition.   There's nothing. Right. There's no vigorous.  

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There's no sort of energy on behalf of Yeah. In the strict in England, there's a joke.  

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Well, they've all been subsumed into this political there's only one party. You can feel it.   And it's something they can't even be bothered to play the role of pretending that they're actually at each other's throats. I mean, it's just a joke. The whole thing is just a business. It's about taxation and control.   And, you know, we we talk obviously about the banks wanting to make the money, but the real purpose is not that they need to make any more, is to make sure that you never get enough to become a problem. That's the real thing. They don't want you sort of wandering around on the great tax wrench and ending up in places they don't want you to go.   So it's all for our safety.  

You know? And all this if they manage to institute   or get established this   cryptocurrency nonsense,   we're in a an unbelievable   pickle then.   And life will become even more restrained and restricted, and they'll just keep telling you that it's so safe. We will. We'll be incredibly safe. We'll be so safe that we'll be dead. There won't be any life.   I mean, it's just it's absolutely bizarre. There won't be any because no one will be doing anything that could possibly imperil their life, which means they won't be doing anything. Because anything you do has got some peril involved. Even putting a plug in for the kettle on the morning, if you get it wrong, bang, ow. Oh, dead. Or whatever. I'm sure it happens every now and again, but,  

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you know, all that kind of stuff. That's right. Well, did you know, David Frost? I think he knew a lot more than what he let out. And I I've got a feeling he may have worked for the secret services. I don't know.   But did you know that that, interview he gave with Nixon that was all set up as that was all rehearsed as all   Yeah.   And   it was, I think CIA wrote the script or something like that. It it it was all as I say, all a big setup.  

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Well, there's a comment in the chat, exactly on those lines. MI six is David Frost. I suspect so. They embed journalists and everything, so called journalists. You know?   Bring back Tony Benn. Well, we're gonna have to dig him up to do that, XO.   But XO Olster writes, you know, going back to this sort of communications   thing or lack of it, where was the opposition to the £12,000,000,000   to Ukraine indeed?   There's nothing, is there? It's been like this ever since Blair, I think. I think the whole   communication space has been blah, but, you know, it just keeps stepping. Now it's not even   there's nothing.  

Am I asking to be deluded? Am I saying give me more theater so that I can pretend to myself that you actually are trying to do something worse in further? Oh, oh, we can't be bothered to do that now. We were actually it's all been a lie all the time. We were just entertaining you a lot more because we needed to. But now we don't even care about that. The show's rubbish. It's not even any fun now even as we liked it. It's just boring. You know? So Do you believe, though, that these people  

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have been taken over by some demonic force because,   you look at Tony Blair called the bank.   Well well Yeah. Right. But, I mean, when you look at Tony Blair in, say,   1996,   '19 '90 '5,   He's totally different to the way he is now. Alright. He's got older since then, but his whole   attitude   and there's a book that was written by it by a chat who was a friend of his, and he said he used to be a really nice character, very good bloke. And then suddenly,   he changed.   It's as if some demon took him over. And I think that demon grows,  

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Eric. I think it's a growth I think it's a process. I think if you dedicate   if you think that men,   and Blair's obviously one of these, if you're into freemasonry and all that kind of stuff, and you think that man is the measure of life, I mean, that's one of their guidelines,   that man is the measure of all things,   you're lost. You're done for.   You're gonna end up in this completely   mentally and spiritually warped crooked space because it's simply not true.   Yet they've built their entire life around it. And, of course, in the early stage, they've got a lot of evidence to suggest that it is true. I mean, they'll be patronized,   if that's the right word, you know, financially by the money power they are, but they're always looking out for good new apprentices to hoover into the system.  

And they'll make use of them running around, glad handing everybody into a talking piffle and nothing coming of it, and that's great. It's just what they want.   Whilst the candidate thinks he's gonna achieve something, but they never ever do, the whole thing is is, like, you know,   on hold. Nothing ever really happens. And I think after many years of going down that path so, you know,   I don't know if somebody who actually voted for Blair and thought things were gonna improve. I'm going, what?   You know, it's just it's just mad. Stop it. It's silly. Stop this silly habit. You know? But I guess people fall into it. But now he's, what, thirty years down the line of asking about like this. No wonder. They all go like that. They look awful, most of them, when they get older. They're terrible. Terrible looking individuals. And so what we're saying doing anything with honor. That's right. Look up, Obama.  

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Change.   Change. Change. It's all I talk about. Change. This is a change we need. Yes. It's definitely the change.   When you look at,   Farrage, that's all he talks about. Oh, this is the change we need.   What are they talking about? Change. They can't change anything because they got straight while by the bank. So what they're talking a load of bullshit for that is is the change. There's never any change. Never has been and never will be.   So,   you know, and I could guarantee that if you said to Farage,   okay. So are you when what when you when you how'd you plan to stop usury? It'd be off   like a,   well, it'd be off like a, ground with a rocket up his ass. You won't you won't see him put smoke because he knows.  



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You know? I mean, how would we actually get it stopped? I don't mean in terms of the argument for it. That's already won.   Well, it's run it's won by us. But to actually get it stopped,   to to get them to stop it is to actually ask them   is to reduce them down to the level they're supposed to be at. I think that's one of the things I've got from looking at this trial by jury stuff. If literally the jury can, as it was originally intended and originally operated, able to dismiss   legislation that it said was unfit   for society,   I. E. It was bent in some way or conferred privilege. You know? You can't just make this stuff up. Of course, Talmudic law is exactly that.  

These things that are flying around called the Noahide laws are not laws at all. They're just called that. They're whims.   And the but the more people go around saying, no. These things call the more they become law by by virtue of repetition of it. In other words, the the resistance to it actually makes it happen   by by continually communicating as if it genuinely is.   But I think, you know, stopping usury is something   that we want to see.   How do we do it? There's a bit here at the end of this document.   Not Bitcoin. Yeah. No. Well, it could be Bitcoin.  

It could be bit it could be any of these things. I I think that the technical   or form of the money   is secondary   to the law around the ownership of the system.   We don't own the transaction system.   Well, we need to. It should be a government agency.   And you go, oh, no. Because then the government will get perverted. Right? It's how do you actually police the situation   to stop it getting corrupted? But we should own you know, there should be just one national bank because we're a nation.   All the individuals need to own it. They'll probably tell you that you do right now, but it didn't mean anything because there's no actual come so they've cluttered every time you do something,   someone's seeing an angle to obfuscate it, delay it, create an exhausting process for getting to it, which   drags everybody's energy down, and then they've got to make it safer. That's always a great route. Oh, it's too dangerous. We've gotta make it safer. And this goes back thousands of years. I mean, when   when travelers would arrive in new towns or villages   to create to drum up business for leaving   their precious commodities in deposit houses, the guys, which subsequently went on to become banks, they would employ people to go around him over the head.  

Create the requirement for protection of yeah. If you're gonna keep hitting these people, keep losing stuff, then we can sell them the idea that they need to ensure   effectively or protect their valuables in my safe deposit house.   That's how it works. I mean, it's just nonstop this. You go, well, why would anybody wanna do that? Because they want your stuff,   bottom line. And and the thing about the history, you know, we were talking earlier, weren't we, about how how dull it is not dull. It's amazing, but what you're seeing really is the same   play out of human nature over and over and over and over again. And that's why it's I think that's why it's so valuable. If you can, you know, if you if you can learn lessons from Rome and you can,   you just forget about the fact that they're walking around, they've got horses and armor and all that other stuff. But you look at some of the things they wrote, what they were thinking about, it's extremely advanced over what we have to deal with today. The sort of imbeciles that are involved in politics today, they understood it at a much more instinctive level   because there were curses of the people every day apart which you're supposed to get it wrong. The debt at a certain point. Yeah. Absolutely. You've got to. Yeah. But it's like they hold a a grudge against people.  



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I mean, look at look at it. I mean, all these wars they had, it's all about some grudge that goes on and where it's like, oh, yeah.   2,000   ago, God gave us the title to the the land that you're occupying, so give it back to us. And it's like, oh, yeah. Okay.   Sure.   It it that that's the problem. It it becomes a matter of who who sets these terms and and what kind of a bully are they.  

[02:34:35] Unknown:

Well, I yeah. It's true. And I think it's also there's a part   amongst those that think they're the leaders or whatever, that they can't abide the idea that another nation is doing better than them   because it shows them what they say. These people think they're a lot of the whole public office is the problem. I know. But how do I agree with all these things. We just need mechanisms to stop it. Let me read you the bit at the end of this thing. It's only two paragraphs. The very last bit of this document   about,   juries and stuff   is use is titled usury and our money system. I'm probably not gonna say anything that you haven't already heard before, but it's just good to read it out. It says, finally,   it is critical to understand that our current usurious methods of banking   are quite simply extortion of the citizens   and   absolutely precluded by our common law constitution.  

There is no place in our society for the unlawful banking system of the type we have now. True.   With our private central banks that fall under the the authority and central control   of the bank for international settlements.   Interest bearing debt and fractional reserve banking is made unlawful under our constitution   for the purposes of supplying the country's money. An alternative would be the tried and tested system of money creation performed by the treasury   based on the assets of the nation as done at numerous points in history in both The US and Britain. This is true. We've got examples. We know of these. Colonial scrip, Abraham Lincoln's greenbacks, and the lesser known   Bradbury Pound in Britain are all examples of the creation   of safely backed money   that would transform the economy of the country. Abundance would result in all instances of the   installation of this little noun and unlawful mechanism. Under a properly functioning democratic   common law constitution, it is important to understand the distinction between   money creation performed by the Treasury,   falling under the authority of a public body answerable to the people   and what we have today. Money creation performed by a clique of powerful private individuals and think tanks with the globalist agendas. The wealth and abundance that would result in a society that corrects this fundamental problem   would be astounding. Indeed, it would.  

So that's the goal. We've got to reinstitute the because the law   that is passing as a law that says private organizations can provide banking services   is to be removed. You can't.   We're not gonna allow you to do it. There'll be no Netwest and no none of these private banking firms. We just want the Bank of England with a branch everywhere that we all own.   I know I'm just repeating myself, but we gotta get some I gotta get some steam behind this. Why I would at least like to spend a month of my life living when that system was in place. I just wanna know what it's like. It's driving me crazy.   I just think it'd be amazing. It would be I mean, you know, this USAID   thing,   revealing the trillions that have been spawned off and sucked off into all over the places. We've got the same crap going on over here. You know, so I might there's not a word of a peep about this 12,000,000,000 that's gone to Ukraine.  

Meanwhile, people are starving and dying and old age pensioners are freezing to death. And we're sat here like Muppets just going, we're all cross about it. Well, we are all cross about it, but we still haven't found a way of turning that crossness   in smashing them in the face so they never do it again. Now I'm I'm using sort of vivid language. That wouldn't work either. Well, there has to be a way where they can be constrained. They've got no constraints on them. They're just behaving literally like the bullies that they've always wanted to be and kicking shit out of us. And it's exhausting, and it's really, really irritating.  

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And I agree with you. Yeah. But but the thing is is that I think it needs a change in humanity   because   like a puppy dog, it's been kicked down and kicked down and kicked down. And the mentality that we've got around now,   it would if we stopped as Yuri Brezhnev said, we clicked his fingers and said, if we stop right now, it would take several generations to put right the damage that's been done. Now he said that about thirty, forty years ago in the early sorry. Forty odd years ago in the early eighties.   But,   this idea of a spiritual awakening,   now,   that was brought about after First World War   by the Secret Services. Because while people are thinking, oh, it's going to be a spiritual awakening, number one, they're not doing anything. And number two, they think that some marvelous things have happened when it isn't.  

Spiritual awakening has got to be inner, not outer. So that people are aware of what's going on,   but people are too comfortable at the moment. That's the thing. But the thing that I fear is when they're not comfortable,   then,   it's more brawl. And we can't have more brawl. It's gotta be,   done in a way that our enemy   doesn't expect. And the yellow vests, I think, were the most successful before they were infiltrated Mhmm. Because they didn't have a leader.   And   they were bringing the country to a standstill. Well, it's like, I know these protests.  

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They don't have a leader. It's just a a mob   mentality at a certain point, and you just get lost in the mob. You don't you don't ever achieve anything other than, oh, great. I'll get a protesting COVID. It's and standing on the street corners. That's what it becomes, and it's like, well, you're just like  

[02:40:03] Unknown:

what else? So what do we do, gentlemen? Come on. What do we do? I wanna do I I mean,   it's a terrible question to ask because you always people ask me that. I got a bloody I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. Right? But   I want some I want more firepower.  

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Individuality.  

[02:40:18] Unknown:

We we need more we need more firepower. We we just need it. I don't know what I mean by that, but you know that we absolutely need it. And it's trying to it's building something that's like a fire that it's this   growth thing that's doing me my head in. How to get something to really grow and not simply just be an echo chamber for doom porn.   It's pointless. Right. I mean, I don't bother really with many things anymore, and I bet many people here don't either, I would imagine. Because after you've spent maybe three to five years,   it probably isn't that long. It took me ages to start off with because I was going for books and stuff, but the Internet kicked it all in. Right? And then everybody's making connections. Nine eleven propelled things forward at a real speed. That's just the history of it as it has existed. It doesn't matter that it's that way. That's just the way it was. Right?  

So when you get to this point of understanding broadly,   and you don't need to know things to a minute detail,   What the issue is,   we're faced with this challenge that we've not really dealt with, which is how to organize if that's or disorganize,   because I don't even know, to bring it about. Someone wrote earlier on in the chat   that divine intervention is what's required. I completely agree.   I just don't know quite what form it's gonna come. I like to think, and maybe this is my ego, that divine intervention will come in a sense that we will be divinely interfered with,   that we will have these eureka moments or these,   and we will get together and do it. And the only reason I feel like that is that I look back in history and at all the plights that our people have faced in the past, they've been awful.  

We forget it. We think we're the only people that have ever suffered. I mean, it's it's really hairy what's going on because it's it's worldwide because of the technology situation.   But you look at some of the things that an odds that people had to overcome,   and no one came down and saved their ass.   No one. You know, my view really is that we've been imbued with all the qualities by our creator to solve it,  

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and it's just like dad. It's a it's a look. I taught you everything you need to know, and I get on with it. It's like the lord It's really difficult. So what? You know what you know what to do. Do it. Yeah. No. That's why I don't want children knowing about this stuff like the lord's prayer. I remember hearing Andy Hitchcock and Malefica Scott talking about how when they went to school, they and they learned the lord's prayer. Whether you like saying it or not, that's the other quest you know, regardless, they they made you say it, which is important.   It whether whether people believe you know?  

Because, obviously, they don't do it anymore,   and there's a reason for that. Because they don't want you to know that forgive us our debt as   as you would want someone to forget you know, forgive us our trespasses as or as we forgive those who trespass against us.   It ends up becoming,   I'm out for myself. Like, I I wanna read a passage from Trump's book, How to Get Rich.   And then Yeah. You can judge whether this guy is the guy that's gonna be the type that'll do that.  

[02:43:13] Unknown:

I I'll tell you. Let me just get let me just fill my whiskey glass up. Go for it, Patrick. This.  

[02:43:20] Unknown:

Sometimes you you still have to screw them.   For many years, I've said that if someone screws you, screw them back.   I once made the mistake of saying that in front of a group of 20 priests who were in a large audience of 2,000 people.   I took some heat for that. One of them said, my son, we thought you were a much nicer person.   I responded, father,   I have a great respect for you. You'll get to heaven. I probably won't. But to be honest, as long as we're on the earth, I really have to live by my principles.   When somewhat somebody hurts you,   just go after them viciously and as violently as you can, like it says in the Bible, an eye for an eye.  

Be paranoid.   I know this observation doesn't sound make any of us sound very good, but let's face it face the fact that it's possible that even your best friend wants to steal your spouse and your money.   As I say every week in The Apprentice, it's a jungle out there. We're worse than lions. At least they do it for food. We do it for the thrill of the hunt.   I mean, that's the mentality   of the guy. So it's like   I I don't think much has changed with him either.   The problem being, you get these red herrings with USAID. I know.   Okay. Great. Great. USAID. That's great. What do they do? Yeah. They they they financed, you know, blockbuster   bombs and airplanes and all this got yeah. Right. No. It's it's small price stuff,  

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and they're doing it. Well, I think even the reveal on USAID,   Patrick,   is is part of a double, triple, quadruple bluff. There's a an item right now on uns.com,   u n zed,   if you're British, u n zed for American listeners, unzed.com,   called Meet Norm Eisen, the man who derailed Trump's anti corruption campaign. It's a very interesting article. Right?   So Norm Eisen,   I don't wanna is a small hat man and, highly skilled in the machinations of, governmental law and all this, that, and the other, and is put in a block, so we're told, on these things.   So I just think that they're all part of the same thing.  

Everything's you know?  

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Trump Oh, yeah.  

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Musk,   this guy. The United States. A big chat before he says, now this is what's gonna happen. Then you're gonna go off you're gonna hit this roadblock. Norm's gonna turn up with all this stuff. Alright. And then that's gonna happen. Then this will cause reason for that. I just think it's plotting and plotting and plotting in a way that none of us would even think about because we're not built that way, because we're not out here to get hold and seize of all all of these sorts of things.   So   wherever this goes,   although it is a revelation, I suppose, the amount the trillions that have got lost and that it's coming out,   there's still something not right about it. I can't describe it. I just I still   maybe I've been trying to be so cynical now for so long that I'll never ever get back to being able to see the truth. Suspicious of everything forever. No. I don't just a word you're saying at all on principle. You know? But there's so much evidence to suggest that that would be the best option, that you're likely to be far more right if you take that view than if you actually go along with what they're saying.  



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Well, the goal the goal of politics too, it seems to be the what's possible.   And you have to go for the lesser of two evils. At a certain point, you're not gonna have your perfect scenario. So you do have to go with who's the lesser of two evils. But at the same time, it's like, well, you know, what if you just abstain from voting, for instance? Why do I have to choose from the lesser of two evils if they're both evil?   Is it is it a sin to to not vote?   Is it a you know? Because at a certain   point, there's so many   people that vote. And if there's so many people that don't vote where you you're only running a race where there's, like, 10% of the population even voting,   that just ruins that ruins their mandate to power, and it's a great propaganda thing to go then say, look at these people are ruling over us trying to push all this BS.  

And they only got 10 you know,   eight   6% of the vote out of 10% of the people. You know? It's just, like, you it's perfect propaganda tool, and then you just say, let's create something new. It's a lot easier at that point to come in and say Mhmm. We we have an alternative to this, and it's a godly   based on godly principles instead of this idea   of screwing somebody else because they screwed you. And it just when does that end?  

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It was on weird Because this is because mammon has become their god.   It's, you know, they basically, mammon is the god. That's it. It's all about mammon. It's not about god. It's about   this junior thing that's how you get control over the other men   in this life.   And it's produced this   really pathetic it's pathetic and dangerous situation, but it is pathetic.   I mean, no no one would look at these people as having any vision about how life really could work at all,   and we succeed in spite of them. Although they  

[02:48:32] Unknown:

With Keir Starmer is what did Vladimir   Putin ever do to him?   You know? What what did Russia ever do to The UK to make them go ape ape and,   decide that they're just gonna militarily   declare a war?  

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Yeah. I mean, who would blame Russia if they just went, right. UK. You've had it.   Would you would you blame them? I wouldn't.   It's out of order. But they would It's just completely what Boris Johnson did and all these peep oh, we need to interfere with another country. No, you don't.   Tough. But it's gonna be a problem for us down the line then we will deal with it when it comes to it. That's it's their decision. Let them rock on. What are you giving them any money for? Because they'll get wiped out. Well, then it's up to them to to broker their peace with Russia. It's none of our bloody business. But, of course, it is, isn't it? It's not actually our business, the the normal working man and working stiff in England. It's none of our business at all. But those forces and agencies in this country that have investments   there,   the money side,   That's what it always comes down to. It's why I'd probably get rid of international business. I go, forget it. Who cares?  

I mean, I'd be completely for,   total tariffs and trade barriers. I don't believe in free trade at all. I think it completely undermines the culture of the distinctive cultures of nations. I don't want McDonald's everywhere. I'd have them banned. I wanna get back to fish and chips everywhere and moaning about that as opposed to moaning about McDonald's.   I just wanna go back and live in a world that was actually based on that, of course,   sixty years ago at least and even further back. They've been plotting this thing for a long time.   And all of our governmental people, wherever you are in the world, America, here, they're all beholden to it. All of them are beholden to this. They're all in on   it. And, because maybe it's impossible as a good person to go into that space and not   be lumped in on it, you know, like flies sticking to fly paper. You just that's it. You ain't getting out. Why would you even go in there?  

So this return to God's law and true principles at local levels maybe is very much the path that we have to take. I mean, I don't know. It's as if there isn't one   any particular   magic wand, then it's all gonna turn good.   It is about actually voicing   and acting in line with how we want things to be, which comes back to Eric, really, and having a good laugh, really, really.  

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Yeah. Well, we're looking at it from a bright side.   If Putin took us over,   so Mhmm. Why not we declare war on Russia, then put our hands   up? Wouldn't it be a little bit better under Putin? It couldn't get worse than what we got now, would it, really? So look look on that sort of side of it. Yep.   You know, I don't believe there are atomic nuclear weapons. There may be, but I don't think there is. I think there's enough evidence.  

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No. Just the normal weapons of bombs flying on airplanes is enough.  

[02:51:22] Unknown:

But, you know, as long as he doesn't destroy anything,   yeah, might be might be very nice under Russian rules. You know? It'd be part of bricks.   But the only trouble is, of course,  

[02:51:35] Unknown:

I think he's beholden to the same people as a lot of beholden to. Yeah. I think that that's it. A pantomime. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's all a big I think it's all a barrier to a language barrier. If Putin if he could speak English, I think there'd be a different situation.   I think he can, can't he? Well, I don't think he can speak English. No. I don't think he can speak English. I don't think his English is any good.   And that's part of the problem is we don't speak their language, and how do you know what they're actually thinking? You you just have to rely on your whoever is translating this stuff.   I I don't think Starmer can speak English, can he? I don't know. You know? Well, no. That's the problem. He he speaks too good of English, and he's got these corrupt ideas   that corrupt the English nation as a consequence.  

It it it's but he's not He just he permanently looks like a man  

[02:52:24] Unknown:

who's just been terrified   of something, and he's never left him.   That's what I think. He just looks like a man   who's had the most   a really terrible experience, and it's never and his face has got this look of almost   he's like inanimate.   He's like he's in farm. Isn't that the word? He's complete you know,   he's he's in a lock. He's a strange sort of character. Maybe that's why he was picked. I don't know.   But, yeah, I mean, they're all beholden to central banks.   So is is it possible to educate the public on a large scale   to to get rid of it, or do we just have to go along with listening to this completely pointless theater with all these lunatics running it, pretending that they're gonna help us out? Well, I think we have to be satisfied to an extent of what we're what we're able to  

[02:53:10] Unknown:

eke out of our meager existence   and not be too greedy for more than what we need, like the basic necessities of a shelter over our head and bread and water and air   and heat.   Yeah. You're right. It It's just kind   of a humbling moment to know that, you know, we're not gonna get   necessary we're not gonna get what we want. I I don't think we are.   But at the same time, it doesn't mean that we have to   stoop to the level of the people that are doing this, you  

[02:53:44] Unknown:

know, psychological warfare on us and getting us not to speak to each other. Because that's Well, my yeah. You're right. But my main I suppose the thing and I do have serious sort of moments of I don't know, I mean, to describe them. They're not pleasant.   Anxiety. Let's call it that. Right? It's not exactly that.   When I see the volume of people coming into this country knowing where it's gonna lead to, if you've studied history, you know what's gonna happen.   And and when I hear comments from   my own people saying we can help these people,   it's completely missing the point. Of course, we can, but not like this.  

And,   actually, very soon, we won't be able to help anybody. And that like We're being depleted.  

[02:54:25] Unknown:

Individuals are being depleted to such a degree, they just can't do it. And and it but there again, it's the church and the moral thing because if you're killing your babies,   you're you can't you can't   then make an argument against it. And that's the problem. They've got this moral blackmail on people   where they're they're the same type that'll do that. They'll kill their baby and then say, well, let's bring the the refugees in from these wars because we we bombed them, and   it was us that did it. And it's like Stockholm syndrome. You know?   Oh. Yeah. Really? You you you do not bear the responsibility   of funding Keir Starmer to go start a war with Russia. You don't.  

And that they want you to feel like   feel their guilt. It's the same thing like World War two when they went in and bombed Dresden and then blamed it on on the evil Germans in their concentration camps. The   guilt, the guilt was misplaced because they they knew they were guilty as all get out.   And that to project the guilt on the populace that could then do something against them is what they did. Because then it's kept us in a form of bondage   mentally ever since then. And to this day, it's like the worst thing you can be called is anti semolina, like Eric says.   It's still well, no, in their mind, because that's what they even like,   the conservatives and the liberals, you got the conservatives like Trump, and that's still   the the worst thing is the anti semolina   stuff.  



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So Yeah. I mean,  

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it really is. I guess it is. I guess it is because it's just not possible to actually get that into a decent communication space. Guys, we've got about let me just have a look here. We've got about four minutes of talk time left before the mute. We're gonna heart end bang on eleven.   I just wanted to talk about next week's show a bit.   Couple of things I just wanted to mention. Actually, just before we move on to that,   the image from today is from a film called Witness for the Prosecution   and,   by Billy Wilder   starring, of course, Charles Laughton. You'll see him in the picture there. And if you haven't seen the film, it's based on an Agatha Christie,   sort of hood knit murder mystery type thing in a court.  

It's,   very good. That's all I would say. It's very, very good.   Obviously,   Billy Wilder was the director. This is this is the film in which Lawton   Billy Billy Wilder Lawton just plays this fantastic have you have you seen this film, Eric? Have you ever seen it? Never. Never seen it. No.   Look. It's just For years long as in the shrunken heads video  

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after the World War two. You know?  

[02:57:05] Unknown:

Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But just yeah. Okay. I'm just going on this film. You're probably right. I'm not a big biddy bot. That's not what it is. No. I don't. It's interesting.   There was a while there was interviewed about Loughton,   someone had to come in and read the lines to all the other players during the weekend, you know, while they were rehearsing. And Loughton said, I'll do it. He said, you don't have to. You can have a weekend though. He says, no. I wanna do it. He came in. So the other actors and actresses in it, Marlene Dietrich's in it, and Tyrone Power,   a couple of other people.  

And he came in and was reading all their lines. And Wilder said he was more Marlene Dietrich than Marlene Dietrich. He said he was absolutely amazing. So I would love to have heard all that. It's a wonderful film. It's very entertaining.   Right? It is. It's really very, very entertaining, and I recommend it heartily. And I won't tell you the ending because it's, it's one of those sort of who done it twist type things. But,   next week,   fingers crossed, as I mentioned earlier, Monica Schafer will be back with us. She couldn't make it today because she was on the road. After the end of last week's show, we had a quick chat, and she jumped at the idea. And then she called me back and said, I can't do it. I'm sort of double booked. I said, no problem. So we're putting that back to next week. So next Thursday, we're gonna talk about why women shouldn't have the vote and how we're gonna bring that about.   And if I can think of something more contentious and inflammatory, I will.  

But there's a very serious point behind it. I don't know if we even discussed this during last week's show, but there is a serious point behind it.   There's a book called Sex and Culture by a guy called JD Unwin,   and, he's, no longer alive. It was published about nineteen thirty odd. He died a few years after it, quite young, really. And he went off and studied a lot of cultures.   And he found in every single about 50 that whenever women's emancipation   began,   it began a process that in every single case led to the complete disintegration of that civilization. And once it got started, there was not not one of them recovered   and could be brought back,   and we are well down that path.  

So this is gonna be a cheery show. And so I'm trying to do something contentious, but it's not what everybody will think, me pointing   the finger at the fairer sex and all that. It's about something much, much bigger and more important. I think you really up women then.   Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So come in. You wanna hear me, and you can call me a misogynistic,   male chauvinist, whatever you like. It's all water off a duck's back to me because I'm really interested in what's beneath all that.   And there was a quote, you know, when,   when Freud and his nephew,   Bernays, were coming to America   with the sexual revolution,   so the apocryphal tale goes.  

Yeah. Bernays turned sorry. Freud turned to Bernays and said to them, they don't know it, but we're bringing them the plague.   And it's it's this   psychological plague that has split families up and wrecked so much. And the uglification,   not of all women, but of many women, we want to talk about that, you know, these pink haired, betatted, huge whale women that are around that are always for   don't want any anything and everybody's in and all this kind of stuff. They're part of this problem. I want to address all of those sorts of things. So it should be quite chunky. It pervert it makes them ugly in their in their pockets. Yeah. It does. And you don't wanna be around them.   Absolutely does.  

Any last we're winding up now. We're gonna end in very, very short time. So, Eric and Patrick, it's been wonderful to have you. Any final words, lads and lasses?  

[03:00:28] Unknown:

Thank you. Feel free to come come on on Monday because it's a empty slot, and it's called the art of Atbo.  

[03:00:35] Unknown:

And you wanna find out what Atbo is? Well, you better find that you're in. I I'll I'll I'll be joining you either on Sunday or Monday if you want me there, Eric. I'd love to. Yes, please. Busy over this weekend and, keep   you know, I'm come I'm coming for a laugh. I need to come for a laugh. So Okay. Patrick, you're more than welcome. Of course. Yeah. I may be there.   Find out what at bow is there, mate? At a t b o. At bow. Yes. Yeah. Cool. Thank you to everyone in chat. We'll be back again, as I said, next week. Monica Schaeffer will be here. We can find even more people to flesh out that conversation. It'd be good. I really wanna look at this process because I think   it's one of the biggest blows that we've suffered,   and it's very, very difficult to put right, which should make for an interesting discussion. Have a cracking week. We'll see you all next Thursday. Bye for now.  

Okay, guys. We can talk because we're not going out anywhere.  

[03:01:44] Unknown:

Okay? They put they ended that perfectly, Paul. Right on time.  

[03:01:48] Unknown:

Cool. Well, I'm I'm just getting   used to it now, so let's do that. Just turn everything off. Hang on. We gotta turn,   just say goodbye to you on YouTube because we're still chugging along on that. Here we go. Bye on YouTube.   So that's ended,   and   there we go. That's ended. Cool.   You should see the amount of buttons I'm pressing. It's ridiculous. It really is.   That's cool. That's really good,   because I've got it I've got it timed to hard end exactly eleven and everything kicks through. Have I turned everything off? Just a minute. Oh, one last thing. Here we go.   Mhmm. There we go. All   ended.  



[03:02:55] Unknown:

Cool.   Done.  

[03:03:00] Unknown:

Fab.   Is Eric gone? You liked it, Eric.  

[03:03:04] Unknown:

Are you still there? I don't know. I think he likes it. He usually does.   Yeah.   Good show.  

[03:03:11] Unknown:

Good show. Thank you. Yeah. It was fun. That was good. I enjoyed it. It was great.   Very different from last week.   Good. Okay.   I'm gonna get in touch with George,   and try and sort a few things out there. So that'll be fun.   And,   we'll see what we can do. I'll get you sorted out with the station thing over the weekend and Paul,   and hopefully, we'll be   we'll be in business pretty soon with all of that kind of stuff. I can get rid of that other thing and   calm down. And then just and, seriously, I, like I was saying, even though I didn't bang on about it too much because it's a bit sort of boring, but a 11,000   people live here.  

And I just reckon with a proper campaign, I probably could get a local radio thing going here, which was just, say, evening programming, sort of like seven till midnight, something like that. You know? And to connect up with local people so they can start talking about the challenges that they're facing and and just do it. Be just wonderful.   So   I just think I get a bigger audience than trying to go globally with things that so many other people are doing as well even though I like doing this. So it's, you know, it's all part of it, really.  

[03:04:23] Unknown:

Yeah. And I'm I'm saving up. I'm gonna get a transmitter and and start transmitting.   Yeah. I've got the antenna all set up.   I've I've fried my old one. I don't know   like I said, I've   I've put the wrong amplifier on it and messed it up.   So not gonna do that next time.   But   I do wanna get it local because I know there are people here that listen to the radio, and and they would appreciate   it. Something different than the crap that they have on local radio is just terrible.  

[03:04:56] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:04:57] Unknown:

It's like the BBC or the NPR or any of these things. It's just  

[03:05:02] Unknown:

Well, I was in the charity show up at the weekend just gone looking,   for something.   And I went over to the record section. I got all these old LPs and 70 eights and stuff that people have brought in. There are quite a few people there.   And one guy came in, and,   he's just a record junkie. He bought 15,000   records in the last year and sold many of them all. He just runs a big sort of vinyl all the time. Now he's like you. Right? Maniac.   And, he was one of us, but he was a bit culturally   dissolute. You know, he'd done his hair in dreadlocks and got a bloody piercing through his nose. But he was actually a nice guy. I just try and shut all that out for a bit.   And he was talking about stuff, and I just thought there are so many resources locally with people that are keen on things.  

If you could just weld them up together, it would create a really buoyant space for people because   that is the condition of people. There's no point me getting snotty about it. A lot of people are like that. But when he spoke and everything,   he was fine. He was a good heart. I could tell. But these people have been sort of culturally waylaid, gone along with trends and things, wrecked themselves, done all sorts of stupid things, in my view, along the way.   But getting a really sort of local radio thing could be great. I think we'd even it might even make a bit of money because you get local businesses just,   you know, fund a little bit of advertising, not even much like, you know, coffee table money, like £50 a month or something. It'd be nothing.  

People just say, yeah. You have £50.   And get sort of 20 or 30 businesses doing that, and it'd pay for itself. It'd be alright. You know? So I keep thinking there might be a way of doing it. And get an app backed   with a, you know, one of those barcode things and just say, load this on your phone. That'd be the best way. Everybody's got a phone. Everybody's got basically a pocket transistor radio. They just need to know how to tune into it. So you go, you know, get an app made that just loads up either on   because it would be about normal things. So I'm thinking about it because it could be fun.  

You know? Not this sort of material because this wouldn't be allowed. Although, there could be a late night conspiracy show with me and Joss or something because we're local to the area, that kind of stuff. You know? We'll work. Yeah. So Yeah. That's a good that is a good idea.   You should, yeah,   just get something. Get get a Yeah. Well, he's got I've looked at the cost of the record license. It's probably about 3 or £400 a year. And I'm looking at them going, I think this is doable, actually. And it would be fun and it would be refreshing to get away from being so serious about things all the time, although I like being serious and we all do, and we have to be. And I'm not trying to be flippant about it. But to just make it's like casting the net wire.   It's the marketing bit. It's getting the people off the street into the hall bit. I'm interested in that a lot because it's just, you know, it's not happening to the degree that I think it could. Anyways, maybe we'd see whatever. But there we go. Yeah.  

It's it's not Cool.   Yeah. Cool. Listen. I'm gonna go and hit the hay because it's an early end for me, and I'm kinda pleased about it. It's only just gone 11:00, and I'm knackered. So I'm gonna go and do that. But I'll be around all day tomorrow if you wanna talk. I'll get you set with the credentials for   AzureCast, and we can do that.   Paul can have a station if he wants one for GVN. I keep telling him that, but he keeps on sort of not paying attention. Of course, he's probably just getting ice off his testicles right now. So, you know, that Well, he he sent the messages, it looks like.  

[03:08:14] Unknown:

Did he? And I And I ignored them, did I? I didn't even see them. But he he wasn't he wasn't asking anything specific. He was just saying, hi. Hello. I can't type. The thing with the guy is just   he's I don't know what he's doing.   I didn't even I wasn't paying attention either. So oh, well, hopefully, he's okay.  

[03:08:35] Unknown:

And you can tell me   how to do these   clip things and stuff on Pod Home tomorrow when we get some time because Oh, yeah.  

[03:08:44] Unknown:

That's part of the the whole transcript  

[03:08:47] Unknown:

or the, not the transcript. Yeah. Yeah. It's just kinda like We need to get all this promo stuff and the little clips and all that kind of stuff. You know? It could be great. So,  

[03:08:57] Unknown:

yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll do that. You get some rest. I'll talk to you tomorrow.  

[03:09:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Cool. Alright, mate. Have a good rest of day. And, yeah, I'll give you a call tomorrow, Patrick. Alright, mate. Bye for now. Yep. Cheers. Bye. Bye now. Bye bye.   As to last week's show where we were next couple of hours.   Get up on your feet. Get on the move.   The end for the next couple of hours. Welcome to the show.   20