Paul English Live

Okay.

Starts for me on Christmas Eve on Christmas Eve. I'm very, very long. I'm very, very long. And of course, we're back to by the shortest month of my year, there's been some all a little bit fun

and, and this, that, and the other. Wonderful weather here today

actually knew, but couldn't remember their name. Always quite awkward that, isn't it?

But, fortunately, she couldn't remember my name either, so we both embarrassingly

walked past one of her, which was great. She was a friend she was the mother of a friend of one of my sons, but I've last seen about 15 years ago. Anyway, that was fun.

And,

no chemtrails. There's been a lot of chemtrails chat in the Telegram group here on,

here on, Paul English live. We have a Telegram group, of course, attached to this.

And,

lots of chat about rockets

and,

and chemtrails this week, which has been great. Quite like rockets myself, actually. Very odd things, aren't they?

I'm more in love with the Dan Dare rockets, the 19 fifties. The proper ones in comic books, and the ones drawn by Wally Wood,

for EC Comics in weird tales or weird science or whatever it was, also in the 19 fifties. So I'm in love with retro rockets,

and all that kind of stuff.

But we're gonna cover a few chunky things tonight.

I at some point, and this is just by a heads up really to,

Patrick and Eric who are already in the studio,

I would like us to speak guardedly. I think we have to address guardedly,

the,

event, referred to as the holocaust,

because it was

International

Holocaust

Day

on Monday, just gone, January 27th. And regular listeners

will know that,

I kind of steer

I steer things slightly away from these topics purely because of where we live. But I think in a guarded way, we can talk about it and address it, I think, in a decent way,

because I'd like to, for the simple reason that in 2 weeks' time here as well, this will be almost like counterpoint.

Everybody will begin to see where I'm going with this one. But in 2 weeks' time, it's February 13th

on a Thursday, and February 13th

will be the 80th anniversary of the beginning

of the Dresden onslaught, which ran on 13th, 14th, 15th, some 80 years ago.

So I think,

it's only fair that we cover kind of both sides. Although from our slightly biased point of view, we're gonna only cover it in one particular sort of way, but we'll do it in a very sort of decent way. I think we can.

So the plan's not to make the whole show about that tonight. Hence, the reason for the picture of the badger because, I didn't want to sort of broadcast the no. Actually, I just thought about that afterwards. The badger picture

came up because, I was just looking for pictures. Sometimes,

as I'm looking around for an image for the show, and, of course, many of you will realize that the images bear absolutely no relation whatsoever to what we're talking about in the show, and long may that continue. It's not meant to. I can't plan all these things out. This is a free flowing conversation as many of you well know.

But, I quite like the badger. It's quite nice. It's from Wind in the Willows, of course.

And I think what what made me look it up is, I've got a wonderful

copy of Wind in the Willows on my bookshelf. I mean, I spent quite a bit on it. I think it was for when my lads were young, and I I thought I'd end up reading it to them, but I ended up reading most of it to my self. They weren't very interested at the time. I've got to revisit it because it's a long time since I actually last went through it. Wonderful tale, of course. A wonderful tale of

Badger and,

all those other things, mole and stuff like that. So, anyway, this is, this is a free flowing start to the show all over the shop. Let's bring in some intelligent people to get this conversation on track.

Patrick,

there you are in Wisconsin. Welcome to the show. How cold is it?

Well, it's warming up here. I Oh, I'll tell you what would help. Just hold on. I'll ask you that question again.

Patrick, welcome to the show. How cold is it in Wisconsin?

It's about 6 degrees Celsius.

Oh, that's chilly.

That's not that bad. That's actually a heat wave Wisconsin heat wave for this time of year. Yeah. I guess, it's a debate with the cheese making.

No. But, you know,

Wisconsin is known as the badger state. I don't know if you knew this. That's our master

Of course, I knew it.

Of course. What do you think? You think I don't know about things like of course. Alright. No. I just wanted to pretend I knew it. It's obviously meant to be. Today is meant to be badger day, you know, and we talk about badgers and everything. The other thing apart from wind in the willows,

the is that I was out driving the other day, and, unfortunately,

you get quite a bit I'm in I'm zooming up and down these sort of country roads in Sussex, and you do get quite a bit of roadkill, and there was unfortunately

a badger had sort of, you know, said goodbye,

to this realm, along with a couple of foxes who'd been severely anyway, I don't know what it was. I just had badgers running around in my head. Not literally, of course, but there you go. And now we find out this. We find out this.

So is if you have a a prominent NFL football team in Wisconsin, you probably do. I don't are they known as the Badgers or is Yeah. A university that they're not My brother's played for their team at the University of Wisconsin Madison Badgers.

Oh, cool. Football

team. And Those are very

yeah. I'm I'm assuming American Badgers are bigger than British Badgers because everything you've got, they must be bigger. Maybe. They're aggressive. I know that.

Oh, yeah. They'll come you know, you see them outside and you're driving, they'll come and attack your tires. That's all.

Yeah. Yeah. There.

Yeah.

Absolutely. And what's the where's the honey badger from? You heard of those? I've heard of it. I don't know what that Is it Australia? About. It could be. I don't know.

They're ferociously savage. They're the sort of really suit they're like the rottweiler of the badger world, I think.

They're, man, they are

they're massively aggressive.

And they still have badger baiting illegal badger baiting fights over here that sometimes you see in the newspapers, local newspapers, you know, that a ring's being closed down, and they'll set it up. So it's all a bit much. I don't know why guys do that, but they they still do as long as standing dish. Gamble.

It is I haven't bet on anything at all today yet. Must must put a bet on some no. I don't do that at all. Don't do that at all. Anyway, okay. Cold in Wisconsin,

badger badger country. Fantastic.

Eric, does Essex have any connection with badgers? Or do you? Yes. Yes. It does. And it's an amazing coincidence, yes,

that the logo of my local council is a badger called Bob the Badger.

And it's, so it's Broxman. And brox, I think, is an old Anglo Saxon word

for badger. And they're very there's a lot of badgers around here. And, oh, long time ago, about 20 years ago, there was some badger baiting going on illegally,

around this area, and the police stepped in and arrested the buggers for doing it. A long time ago, though. But Yeah. Yes. And it's an amazing

coincidence that it's that sort of well, I suppose, I wouldn't say it's a link with with Wisconsin,

but it's exactly the same because the logo on the local council everywhere is a badger.

And you say You you can see I'm really on I'm really on my game today, can't you? You can see that I really I've I've picked things right.

Hey. I know. I looked at it all day. I'm going, is that a goofy picture for the show or what? And I thought, alright. Does it matter? Really? Does it? I mean, does it honestly?

By the way, shout out to everybody in Rumble and elsewhere. Welcome. Always great to have you. And if anybody feels like offering up images for the show, you can do it in the Telegram group. And I might even use one if you find good stuff.

So, of course, I'm a bit sniffy, but I quite like the badges today.

Okay. Fantastic. So that's 2 out of 2 on the badger,

coincidence front. Paul,

welcome to the show. No pressure on badgers. How are you?

Oh, he's quiet. He's silent.

He doesn't wanna talk to us.

I guess he's just lucky. Maybe he's just picking up the show and streaming out. So, a big hi to all of, people on Global Voice Network that Paul's picking the stream up. I thought he might have been there and wanted to say a word, but if he does know that, he'll step in a bit later on. How are you there? I'm here. I would

you sound high bit high pitched. Oh, god. God. You know? No. I I had major system failures. I missed the, like, the first 45 seconds of the show. I had this tremendous echo going crazy.

I'm glad I was muted and didn't mess up your intro.

And, I'm I'm just I'm I'm I'm I'm just

oh my god. I'm just You've basically come in here with your tech technical knickers in a twist is what you're telling us. Is that right? No. It's I'm sorry. Go on. In a twist.

They're they're, like, climbing up. It's it's like You haven't even got any on. That's why it's that bad. They've come off completely.

Well, it's good to have you on board.

It's good to have you here. Did you catch the opening

bits of rapid written repartee regarding badgers? Did you catch the badger chat? Oh, yes. I did. And,

we we really don't have any badgers in New York,

far as I know.

Oh, the gophers.

We have gophers. I'm having trouble with those guys. I mean, I I really, really feel for what was that movie Caddyshack

and

the Oh, yeah. First shenanigans that were going on. Yeah. I I really, really feel for that because,

you know, it's worth your life to just walk through a lawn

here. I mean, you you step in a gopher hole and, well, there goes an ankle.

Wow.

No. I I think, I mean, I think badgers would probably make mincemeat of gophers, wouldn't they? They they would. They would. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're a very handsome

sort of they're one of the last little echoes of actually sort of savage wildlife here in the UK, to be quiet. This is the badger.

There's foxes everywhere.

I mean, I live in a

or an urban environment. There are foxes everywhere.

In broad daylight now, they're bold as brass. No one really minds. Well, I had a next door neighbor a few years ago used to feed them, mad bugger, because they they they dug a big, whatever they call it, a set. Is that what foxes have? Do they have a set?

Anyway, they dug this big hole and there were lots of,

little baby ones, whatever they're called. Fox cubs, I suppose.

I'm bumbling around a bit here with the terminology, but, he used to feed them. They would they don't have to make a weird noise. They're like a sign across between a dog and a cat. They're very odd, but there's a lot of them around. But not too many badgers, of course, where I live, but, it's not far into the countryside and you sort of start bumping. So I'm very pleased about Badgers. I think the show's really been a hit just for that even if it's all downhill from here, which, of course, it won't be. But, that was that was a good start. Yeah. Badgers. We have contests.

Up here.

Yes. Okay. Well, I said you'd have something bigger in America, to Patrick. And, of course, you do. You have coyotes. And you have cougars, don't you, somewhere up in the mountains? And what else have you bears when you go up north. Bears.

Now that they're big. Bobcat

that has been sighted about 7 miles south of me.

There's, like, this woodsy area with, like, this,

minimum maintenance road, which is a fancy way of saying gravel,

going through the woods. And there's, let's see, a bear that lives on one side,

a bobcat that lives on the other side of the road,

and packs of,

coyotes all over the place. It's it's it's really quite the wildlife area.

Not a not a place you wanna be walking around after dark, I guess.

No. I guess not. I guess not.

Anyway,

yeah. So a little bit of wildlife theme there to kick things off. Anyway, welcome to the show for the 2nd or third time. I mentioned just there in the obviously, Monday just gone,

was,

international,

if I've got it right,

holocaust day.

And I wasn't necessarily planning to even mention it at all on the show here even though, you know, many of you, I guess, have discussed it as well elsewhere,

simply because,

I suppose, a, it's a topic I'm I think I'm pretty familiar with. There's loads of additional minutiae coming out all the time. There's still,

you know, scholars like Guillermo Rudolph, who's been quite prominent on Internet radio over the last week or so. In fact, just prior to this show,

we were replaying,

Monica Schaeffer show from RBN from a couple of weeks ago because she was talking to him very interesting about this new holocaust encyclopedia

that they brought out.

Of course, it's not the sort of encyclopedia

that

the people

who tell the mainstream narrative would be too interested in. In fact, he was saying something to that effect that no libraries have bought it or anything, and I think it's quite a chunky book. Big thing.

His work, Calumand Matonya, I think, and another guy whose name I've forgotten,

so my apologies for that. But it's 3 primary scholars whose work is in there.

And,

maybe it's a topic that that because those of some of us who've looked into it and have come up with a certain view I'm always open to being convinced the other way, but it's been so so long now.

It's the sort of volume that would be of interest to us, but not necessarily on a broad appeal. However, he was saying that libraries have been banned from buying it, and yet they've still shifted over 2,000 copies, which is pretty impressive,

I think.

And I just wondered whether you had had any thoughts or any different thoughts, chaps,

about this event, about the way it's handled in the media. That's why I'd like to we better be slightly circumspect over here in certain ways.

You know, we could we could let rip in a pub and everything if we if we needed to. But I just wondered if you had any further thoughts about it or even just what your basic thoughts are about the way that this whole

narrative is handled because that's the way I tend to view it. I view it as a as a tale that's kinda got out of hand in terms of the established story.

And, this has provided tremendous opportunities,

for scholars like,

Germa Rudolph and others

to look into it and to

provide a much more forensic and therefore truthful report on what is

far more likely to have taken place, which, of course, as many people will know, does not coincide at all

with the mainstream narrative. But I was just wondering, chaps,

what your thoughts might be?

Well,

it it should be a place where you you,

say, like, a university or a college type debate

amongst students

and figure out, you know, what what the actual history is. It's like same thing with 911.

I think of here at the University of Wisconsin, we had Kevin Barrett, who was a professor in Islamic studies,

who lost his job because he decided he could openly debate

such events

and, not, you know, you know, be able to

do it without

any sort of,

what do you call it, blowback from Yep. From the authorities.

But

lo and behold, he lost his job as a consequence.

So

and the same thing with this topic

because of the nature of it. You have

bills. I think there was one just passed by Trump,

which is an anti Semitism on campus type bill where they're going to start deporting any student that participated

in,

in the protest of what's occurring in Gaza with

bombs being dropped, you know, a real

real

type of,

hell that was unleashed,

and make it so that those they've those, students fear being deported as a consequence because because of their stance on it. And it it

it shows you that we really

have Yeah. A control controllers that control us by fear. They they make us fearful of of what we talk about. That way we self censor

and don't talk about those things. And that's really

tragic, and it's gonna we're gonna pay for it in the end because

you can't hide the truth. We always do.

Right. Because we always do pay for it, don't we? Are you is this this thing that and I hadn't heard what you,

that fact, if that's the when did he announce this or say this? Is this some recent statement in the last few days? Yeah. It's recent.

I'll have to look up the the details of it. I know that there was

there was

a bill that was signed as a consequence

recently, and he had promised

this

when he was So are they gonna apply it retroactively to students that they may have identified in the past? I think so.

I haven't read it yet. I've only seen I've only seen, bits of of information about it on headlines mostly.

But And he's talked about it before. But, Patrick,

clearly

gosh.

Obviously, last week, we covered him a little bit, didn't we? And I was playing the role of being reasonably positive. I I don't want you to all fall for that. I'm not I'm not. I just thought it might be good for a change.

Hasn't he didn't he just say in fact, wasn't one of the things that we mentioned last week,

He was talking about free speech is back again in America. Didn't didn't or am I going bonkers?

He did say that, didn't he? He he did say that.

But he's Well, but it it it's just what what what do you mean by free speech? That's

that's the question. Because a lot of people have different

interpretations of it. And when you're the head of the government, the military,

then what you say

is the interpretation of it, I assume. It's like it's like is truth the opinion of the powerful or is there an objective truth that doesn't isn't dependent on,

men,

which would be, godly truth. The real the real

supernatural truth.

Yeah. Oops. Sorry. Okay. Let me just,

that's better. Sorry. Something just kicked in there out of nowhere on a loop back.

Yeah. I think you're absolutely right.

So, I mean, I think this is the nub of it. It's not so much that we even would like to talk about this topic. It's that we have to talk about it in such a way that we can't really talk about it properly because

there is an anxiety of of fear, as you rightly put it, that is being generated by them. Of course, there's nothing new with this.

I mean, this has been the rule of the thought controllers for donkey's years.

And I I I mean, I was much more it's not that I'm used to it. I am outraged by it. I just don't try and let my rage get the better of me in these sort of situations because it wears you out.

It's

but it really does make you

it's not good for white people, this. We really, really, really don't like this, and that's putting it mildly.

We really don't like people shutting us up.

Because how are you possibly

gonna ascertain what the real truth is? And I think what you're suggesting about a debate would be good in theory,

but in practice, we see how they even manipulate

real debate situations as well and and all that kind of stuff. You know, even in court cases, the way that the actual process of communication

gets

effectively manipulated to such a degree that you're never in

you're never having an experience that people are really being able to let go

and say it as it actually is because you have to phrase it this way or you can't use that word or this is causing offence to people.

So that's much more important than naturally ascertaining what the truth of the situation is. I think that's disgusting, actually, to be quite honest,

what he's just said. Yeah. But that's just the that's just the word disgusting in the meaning of what he has to do. Go. I'm looking at white house.gov.

The executive order that he signed is called additional measures to combat antisemitism

signed January

29,

2025.

What about are there gonna be any additional measures to combat anti

white European Americanism?

What about that? There gonna be measures to protect you guys?

Well, anti Christian.

You could you could,

and it should it should occur.

There should be additional measures to combat

anti Christianity.

Why not? I mean, if they're gonna do it for anti Semitism, I'll make it you know,

fair is fair.

I know. Except we don't go in for that kind of thing, do we? From a sort of personality and character, we don't go in for that sort of thing, especially, I guess, because we feel, rightly,

that we're in our own home. The leaders are in our own home.

Well Yeah. But but at the same time, nobody wants to say anything

for fear of being called out as

against the other religion that, you know, they're they're both opposed to each other. So it's like

we're in a conundrum. If we can't talk about it, then what are we what do we got in a society?

Nothing. Well, we don't really have a private society, do we? It's dysfunctional.

I mean, is is stopping anti Semitism anti Christianic?

Well, first of all, they're not honest about it because Semitism

is

a weird term.

It is. It could mean a Semitic people, which the people in Gaza, the Arabs are Semitic people.

So

bombing them as a anti Semitism.

Good good good question. But the

the thing of it is the history of it, there there was a thing back at the turn of the century from the from 19th to 20th century. In Austria,

there was a particular party called the anti Semitic party,

and it was a coalition of different groups.

But it was

the leader of it was said

was the most famous leader of it was Karl Lueger,

who was the mayor of

Vienna.

And

it's got a long history.

This anti

Semitic party, as it was called, because at the time, Semitism

was more or less

known as being,

more it was

political corruption

and oppressive capitalism

is the way they looked at it.

Yeah. It came to mean that it came became synonymous with it as a term,

even though prior to that, I think it was Marr. I forget the guy's name.

William William Marr, I think was his name, who Right. Developed the term originally

on Oh, yes. Yeah. I know. I know. German guy. Was it? It was In the mid mid 19th century.

That's right. Yeah. He was the one who first coined it.

Right. But

there again, it's it's playing with words. It's like, what do these words mean?

Semitic versus white versus black or any of these other terms. It's like

whoever has the power seems to be able to control the definitions of it.

And the way they're doing it now is it's a way to protect themselves from being tried for war crimes.

That's the current flavor, isn't it? That is the current flavor. That's the current theme that's behind it

as they seek to

but there's things getting away from them in this control of speech.

Eric, do you think we're in a a different situation to our American pals with regards to being able to talk about this? I mean, as far as I'm aware, there's still not

a law on the books, although I don't think that necessarily means too much. But there's not a law here that that bans

discussion of this topic,

in a more, how should I put it, critical way. I know you can't talk about it in such a way, say, in Austria

or France, I believe, and probably most and certainly not Germany at the moment, if ever.

Do you think we're in a different situation, Eric, to our American pals?

Oh, we are in a different situation, and I think it's more strict as well. I think there's more of a grip hole. When

I think of people that's been,

arrested

for certain things that they've said,

which is a thoughtcrime.

A thoughtcrime is a thoughtcrime, whatever way you look at it. Whereas in America,

you can say a lot more and get away with it, where you can't in this country.

And,

there was that well, there's loads of people. Well, perfect example

is,

look at our author friend who's been arrested,

that trial, the Lipchdian trial. And, you know, David Irving.

Yes. He hasn't been arrested so much in this country.

Admittedly, he was in Germany. He and Austria got arrested. But the thing is

is, you still can't say what you want to say regardless of what it is. And the thing I was going to say is is that

none of us were there. None of us were born during this this situation. So our information has to be from records, etcetera, etcetera.

Mhmm.

I,

do know that in every war, there are victims, innocent victims.

And when there's a hell of a lot of hype going on about something,

it actually is a is a great, disservice to the in to them even if they're a minority, even it's one person, it's still a disservice to that one person

if you're a load of lies are being told.

And,

for example, you know, my father went through World War 2, the whole 6 years of hell. He was a conscript.

Yet the people were so brainwashed

by the propaganda

that he had a terrible time after the war because people didn't really wanna know the truth of what he spoke. All they wanted to believe in is the Hollywood version of events. Yeah. I mean, he he didn't go anywhere near concentration or anything like that. No. We he was in Malta, Sicily, Italy, and D Day. So in France.

But, even so, people were talked down to him because he didn't

say

what the establishment wanted him to say. Now, I do know that there were victims in these camps,

and

they lived in poverty.

But you don't hear them. All you hear is the people that are making the money.

And

I think there's a lot of disservice being done to all people, because I want to know the truth regarding how ugly that truth is.

And I respect people. And I've always said that I'm on the side of anybody who's a victim of totalitarianism,

who's innocent, and has never done anything. That's who I'm on the side of. So I think that we're doing a lot of people, a lot of disservice

by this kind of keeping on and on and on doing giving the Hollywood version.

And I wanna know what really happened. So I've said my piece there. So The the original the original the

original narrative, though,

of a lot of these concentration

camps like Dachau is the classic one.

There's a book that is well worth reading called Christ in Dachau by father John Lentz,

where he tells the tale of from inside of of the

of Dachau and other concentration camps that he was involved with. He was an Austrian priest,

and he survived

the entire ordeal

and lived to write about it. And

a lot of the people in there were in there as political prisoners,

communists,

you know, even the Catholic priests. There were about

1200

Catholic clergy

imprisoned in Dachau

at the time, and they they ended up,

you know, a lot of them died. A lot of them were, you know, suffered suffered the consequences of the war.

There's a lot of

a lot of problems.

We got to act the the thing that gets me is that we're given to understand when I was younger, I was given to understand that people were deliberately starved to death. No.

What happened is the allies had bombed

the infrastructure of Germany

so much

that the infrastructure had broken down, and they couldn't get food through. They couldn't get supplies through. And that's why typhus

broke out, and they were desperate to try and stop typhus.

So

we're told a kind of, distorted story.

And, again, I want to know the truth. Truth is very, very important

because,

I've spoken

to people that have been in the camp system.

I was going to 3 pea I knew well, not sorry. 2.

There was a

a

Polish chap

who was in the Polish army during the war,

and,

he was in a POW camp for a short time, and he escaped and came to Britain.

He had quite a story to tell.

And there was also,

another person

who I spoke to who,

you know, they they were saying that,

the way things are depicted on on the news and on on on the mainstream media

is very different to what they experienced.

So, again,

Hollywood is doing us a huge disservice.

And then the way you find out why they're doing us a big disservice, you've only got to follow the money trail.

Full stop. Just follow the money trail, and that'll give you the answer. Yeah.

I mean, I think there's,

I think the language that's used, the words that have come up around it,

like holocaust,

to denote

that actually means its literal specific meaning is a burnt offering.

And,

I don't

really associate the events in the work camps because

to me, logically, that's what they are

and they ended very badly for completely explicable reasons,

which as far as I'm concerned have got nothing to do with the gas chamber

story which is put around.

And what I've thought is that you see, there's that word, holocaust, which is to denote something

extremely especially awful or something. That's this connotation in the mind of the public.

The other thing

is, holocaust denial,

which,

I don't think is a condition that exists. I mean, I know it's used as a label,

but you can only deny a thing, it seems to me, that that

when someone's labeled the denier, the implication is is that everybody knows that this thing is true. But this idiot here, right, that's the implication. That's the subcarrier wave on that phrase. This idiot here is causing trouble

by just stirring it up for no damn good reason without any evidence. It's just a denier. In other words and that was not

that's not the situation.

You can't, you know, to be more forceful about it, you can't deny the existence of a thing for which you feel there is no proof it even took place in the first place. That's

not so we're not saying that people didn't die in camps. That's not what anybody said. The thing is that when you actually look at the

logic put forward by people that have written

more incisive and critical appraisals of what really did take place,

they know that people died. It's not a carte blanche this event never happened. That's literally how they were painted at first that nothing had ever happened at all.

It's that they've taken it seriously and looked into it and found very early on in their research that there are glaring holes in the official narrative. Really serious ones.

Ones which to,

a reasonable and rational mind have to be dealt with properly. And, of course, at that point, you hit the problem that they can't be dealt with properly because you get the use of all this evocative and emotional language used to still,

you know,

am I become your enemy because I tell the truth type thing? Yeah. You are. We don't want the truth around here about this. We want you to effectively shut up and accept what we are dictating you must take. And if you don't, there are gonna be penalties. As you said, Eric, David Irving experienced one of those penalties when he visited Austria, and they locked him up for I can't remember how long, 9 months was it, for something that he'd said 20 years prior.

And this is showing you who's bullying whom.

To to me though, truth,

you don't have to have words to hide or anything like that. No. It it can it it can face any investigation,

any investigation at all.

And for example,

you know, somebody said to me,

oh,

I don't know. I don't live at the address where I say I live. I I can't give a damn what people say. I do live there. They can people can investigate as much as they want. I do live in the address that I say I live. Well but if I had something to hide and I wanted to make out that I lived, I don't know, down in

Winchester or somewhere,

then I'd have to

and now and I was that type of person

that I was gonna I I'd have to,

accuse people of things.

I'll be on the offense. I will again, I'm not that type of person. I'll be on the defensive all the time. And this is the problem.

Only lies

need censorship.

Truth doesn't.

People don't seem to get that.

And surely, we should be able to ask any question at all. Doesn't matter what it is.

I agree. And

if something is someone is telling the truth, it will stand out like a a sore thumb.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what said about the Fred Leitner report. Now Fred I think I've got your surname. Correct? Leitner. Yeah. Leitner. Now he I don't know if he's still alive, but I know that he was living in poverty some years ago because he couldn't get work.

Because the house was being,

taken away from him as well

because of his, you know, back dues on his mortgage.

I think he was out $100100000

or more.

This was a couple

years ago.

The thing of it is, what

we need to do is look at this term Holocaust. There's a biblical meaning to Holocaust

as burnt offering, but not only burnt offering, but a sin offering, an offering of sacrifice for sins.

And what it ultimately is

with this term being applied to it,

it's a justification for behavior,

a justification

for allied bombing of Germany

that took place where there was an actual

fire like

they call it a firestorm,

where you had

blanket

bombings of entire residential areas that were

targeted. They they they didn't go after

factories so much. They actually went after residential areas to terrorize

the populace and to demoralize them.

Now they have to justify this sort of thing. And in order to do it,

there's a religious

connotation. They use religion when it comes to war. They break out. They become the greatest Christians, you know, especially in a Christian country like England or America.

Christianity

then becomes the motivating factor for calling people to war.

And the clergy and the priests and all of these sort of people

play a big part in that and promoting it.

Now,

also, they have

the problem of of this this idea of why why are we fighting? What's the point? And and they had this idea that, well, these these

the the

evil Germans

are so evil

that they're targeting

a particular type of

religious people,

and they're just killing them because they don't they they stand in opposition to everything that they stand for. So so that

you have this

minority group of people

that are being targeted,

and they have to and if you look at the evidence and you base it on reality,

such things

don't make any sense. Like, why would they do that? Why wouldn't they use them for labor? Why wouldn't they

why would they purposely starve entire people to death? You know, is it

collective punishment? What what's the deal with it? And these are the questions that we need to be able to ask. But if you're afraid to talk about it,

you're never gonna be able to to come to any solution

on it.

Same thing with current wars. They don't want people talking about it. They want

people to shut up, and they use blackmail. All of these politicians have some sort of blackmail on them, it seems,

to where they don't talk about these these problems and do something about it and stop

weaponizing

these evildoers.

I I mean, I agree with you, and I think just coming back to that point that Eric was mentioning about 10 minutes ago regarding the

destruction of the infrastructure around the camps courtesy of allied bombing.

So

many people will be from this did happen. These are not things that are just being made up.

But effectively, food and medical supplies were,

they couldn't get through to these places. So up to a certain point, yeah, that they could get through and then the trains no longer could deliver what was necessary to maintain the health of the people that was in there, either through food and or medicine.

And so I go, well, that now logically, we see why. But this also,

therefore, you know, as we know that the political class is very much in the pocket of the banker or the money power class, and that there's this

terrible sort of covert

control system, which is not hidden to those of us that have looked into it. We know what's going on.

You could see how governments after the war can be blackmailed into it. You go along with this because if you don't, it'll come out that you're the ones that I I mean, I don't think it would really pan that way, but it would basically be revealed

that those bombing campaigns were the things that brought it about.

In fact, I was talking to someone only about it

yesterday, I think. I think this is why it sort of

banged around in my head. I wasn't as I said at the show, I wasn't really planning to talk about this this week even though it is that week and it is the 80th one. But I thought if we're gonna cover Dresden, as I said, in a couple of weeks' time, which we are,

we'll cover this tail end, and, I don't know what we'll put in the middle, but we'll do something next week. But the following week after that, we're gonna cover it.

But it's the whole process of communication around it is so controlled

that that in itself is a like a red flag to people that want to know the truth. I mean, I could run around, for example, and say, look. You know that thing called the Battle of Waterloo? Well, it never happened.

And I'm not gonna allow you to even inquire into that. You've just got to accept what I say is the truth. Of course, on the current situations, I'll be left out of the house and rightly so.

But this situation has never been allowed to breathe properly, and there are so many questions around it,

which of course most people don't know they can even ask because they've accepted the established narrative, which is understandable from their point of view. I mean, I I think I probably was in the mainstream view of this something till about the early 2000s, about 2,002.

If you'd have asked me then,

I would have said, no. This is there's just mad men stirring up. And then, of course, as you begin to inquire into other things, anything, it doesn't really matter. I think once you get into the habit of asking questions about what it is that you need to ask questions about,

that spreads out. You start to ask questions as you should about everything and you suddenly go, well, if this isn't right here, maybe I ought to take another look at this. Maybe

it was my slightly dull brain back then was not capable of dealing with it. And, of course, we're surrounded with a lot of people whose brains,

including ours, are under a bombardment, you know, 247 to keep them as dull as possible.

And yet, in this case, it's it's obviously not worked. When I was talking as have you heard of

you see and these things stick out for me like

major sort of points in this if we call it an ongoing discussion, of course, the other side wouldn't. They said there's nothing to discuss. This is it and you accept that.

But the

the great, as they referred to the holocaust trials in Canada with Ernst and Dale in the 19 eighties,

an almost vital piece of information for anybody, I think, that's inquiring into it.

Is anybody here are you familiar with these trials? Anybody? I'm assuming you've probably heard of them, but do you know of them in any way? Know of them. I don't know most of the details. I know he ran

a publication

and was on trial

in Canada.

And he He was. He he was

extradited, I believe, to Germany at some point or Switzerland, if you want. Yeah. Yep.

He was.

Well, I mean,

obviously, his courage in in putting a lot of resources into it,

is considerable. This didn't, of course, help him in the press. He was hammered,

at the time and probably no doubt is continues to be hammered in certain circles or whatever.

But the thing that's Michael Hoffman published a book called The Great Holocaust Trial, which is an account of both of them. I think there was one in 86, and then he had to go back again in either 88 or 89.

And on both

on both cases,

he came out on the winning side, to use that sort of language. Right.

And the the star, if there is if that's the right word, but his defense lawyer, Doug Christie,

was just amazing

in terms of bringing

loyally clarity

and and clear thinking to bear on this issue. Now why is it I have just this a silly question. Why is it that that book is not more well known? I mean, there are many books around this stuff, which are laid out in an extremely calm, scholarly fashion. Of course, this is what makes them so devastatingly effective to those that sit down and read them. But, of course, the encouragement to to read them is probably non existent because who would wanna read that? It's they're obviously a bunch of madmen.

So people don't know this. I was speaking to I said, are you aware of this? They said, no. I said, well,

I'm not suggesting you not have to sit down or buy it and read it all, but you will probably wanna do some searches on it to to get a general overview of what took place

because it was conducted

in a proper Canadian court with all the disciplines of court,

you know, of hearing cases and language and the control thereof.

And it's pretty clear

that that what he's stating is not something that he could be prosecuted for because there's there are so many questions around it and of course allowing this to carry on is awful

in their eyes in the on the other side. I mean, we're coming down to again, you know, this

we're talking about this particular topic today, right now, in this moment in time, and we will talk about other topics. And a common thread here is this control of communication to

bring about a false view.

It's it's kinda like a defamation

trial of sorts.

Yes.

And that term defamation gets banned. You know, it's it becomes a weaponized

term

because it's like, who are you defaming and why are you defaming them and

motive and opportunity?

It

it doesn't make any sense. And then recently,

I don't I don't know if you're aware of this, but have you heard of

the fact that,

Bishop Richard Williamson, who's a a native UK resident,

has passed away.

I have. Yes. Okay. Yes. Now he

he he was embroiled in quite a controversy

that went beyond the scope of the Holocaust

in a way within the Catholic Church

that a lot of people probably outside of the Catholic Church don't realize his position

in the whole greater scheme of things politically for Catholics.

Because what happened

was after the war,

there was

a discussion within the Catholic churches. Now, what do we do with our traditional teachings on how,

inter religious dialogue and

dialogue with other religions

are to be conducted because of the fact of who the victors were in World War 2

typically tended to be

and Mhmm. Who who had the greater political control through Hollywood and propaganda.

Because at a certain point in the I think the pivotal place was in the 19 sixties. It was really the World War 2 itself that was the pivotal point.

But in up until the 19 sixties,

there was an understanding among Catholics of

otherness to to them. Like, the the teaching that there's no salvation outside of the Catholic Church was upheld

to such a degree that you didn't go out of your way to say, well, we're all

equal. We're all all religions are all creeds are the same,

and we should we should be,

looking at

trying to dialogue with these other religions in such a way that it's almost like a false hope of of union that you can tolerate

alien beliefs to to

Christianity.

Now Mhmm.

The Vatican 2nd Vatican

Council came and went in the sixties. It was 62 to 65.

And part of that

was a change in in the liturgy or the practices and rituals of the church in the way in the sense that it became less like a universal language, which was Latin,

and more of the vernacular

started to be used. And you also had the propaganda of things like contraception

and moral issues of abortion

and marriage. Divorce

started to become challenged in such a way where the church kind of lost control of the media that Catholics

partook in because it was such a new

technology. The media was such a vital force in

enforcing faith

prior to that that they had somewhat of a control over

and they lost control.

And as a consequence, you had the sexual revolution of the sixties, the whole hippie movement and the antiwar movement

getting

mixed up with it and drugs and all sorts of other things that

really discredited

any sort of anti war

protesting

to a degree that

they lost track of the moral reasons for being against the war. And it became more of a freedom of expression. Freedom of, you know,

freedom of speech

stopped being

freedom of to speak the truth. It became more of, well,

truth is a relative term.

And people started to take that to heart. And and rather than say there's objective morality to things,

there's a subjective reality.

And there was a movement within the church to

to remain traditional

and stick to Latin in the liturgy,

And Bishop Williamson was part of that

movement. And there was a particular bishop. His name was

or Bishop Lefebvre.

Yep. I forget his first name. Familiar with him. Yep. During World War 2 Yeah. I think it was Michelle. During World War 2, he was stationed in Africa

away from the war.

He was like, I think he was in, like, sub

Saharan Africa.

And then after the war, he moved back to Europe. So he missed out the entirety of the war

as a missionary in Africa. He came back to find all these changes being made

to

to Catholic liturgy.

Yeah. And he

he

protested against that to a point where he was ostracized in the eighties to where they were excommunicated,

his group that he founded.

And he ended up or the thing that

excommunicated

him was he ordained bishops without the permission of the Vatican, of the pope.

And one of the bishops that he ordained

was,

Bishop Williamson.

That's right. He was one of 8.

Mhmm. Now

go ahead some years to when Pope Benedict

became

the pope,

who was a German

priest

initially during World War 2.

You know, he he suffered the hunger year. Oh, I think it was, 46 to 47

when, Germany was just starved and and, you know, you had When they were killing more Germans than they did during the war. Exactly.

Exactly. Yep.

Now, he tried to reconcile this group that that, Lafavere

had,

established called the Society of Saint Pius the 10th,

which Bishop Williamson was a part of.

Now, as a part of that,

he

decided to lift the excommunication

order that

Pope John Paul the second had put in place in the 19 eighties against them

and recognized them

as in full communion with Rome.

And he did it.

Now during that time, though,

there was something that happened in Germany where a Swedish television

station

had sent a reporter to to do an interview with Bishop Williamson

in Germany.

And after the interview was done, they decided to record

his their conversation with him, and then they started to talk about the Holocaust

and and the, concentration camps. I have that clip. I have that clip, you know. I've got it. You do. I've got it here on the system. Yeah.

Yeah. But, yeah, go on. Carry on. It's it's it's a great communication. Well, this is what happened. So he he ended up

saying things that that, were illegal in Germany

regarding

the

event of the Holocaust,

and they aired on

I think it well, it was a Swedish television station that that,

aired them. I don't know if it they were aired first in Germany or Sweden.

But they were going to,

try him. I think they find him for it. They were going try to imprison him, but I don't think he ever was imprisoned.

I think he might have been fined.

But it was such a worldwide event,

this thing with pope Benedict

lifting the excommunication

of these 8 bishops

and Williamson being included in it,

that it caused an uproar

amongst the the Jewish leaders,

attacking

the Catholic Church and the pope in particular for uplifting the excommunication

after Williamson

had said these things on German television.

Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

And

the pope

was

basically did not defend Williamson

and instead apologized

for it,

saying he regretted doing it because

he didn't know that he had said these things.

Mhmm. Which was completely weak. And

what are they gonna do?

Right? So here's a German,

priest, German man who becomes pope.

Were they going to try him for Holocaust denial when he was pope? Just imagine that now.

The pope of Rome

is a Holocaust denier.

Right?

And they are they are they gonna put him in prison for doing this?

And this is this is the whole conundrum.

They didn't

he he didn't take a stand. And as a consequence,

there was nothing that they anybody could do to try him or anything like that because he apologized for it and this sort of thing. If he had taken the opposite

tact, it's like, what would have happened?

Were they going

would would the entire system come down on

on the head of the Catholic church, which is the biggest Catholic

denomination of Christians on on the planet? So it's like

it's a very interesting situation that occurred because of Bishop Williamson. And that's why he's such an important figure to this this whole mess we're in right now.

He is and he's such a good he's such a calm,

clear, and decent communicator about it, which, of course, makes it that much more effective for people to be able to understand

the points. I've got I mean, I I was looking for the clip as you're talking. I can't find it. I'm a bit irritated now, but I might be able to dig it out for next week or even when we covered

the Dresden thing in a couple of weeks' time.

But he he expresses in that thing a concern to the journalist

addressing the point you've just made. It's on the tape, isn't it? He said, I hope you're not gonna play this anyway. He said, because, you know, this could get me into terrible trouble.

Yeah.

Yeah. You know? And he says that. He says people get imprisoned for this. He said, so, you know, I've got to have your word that you're not gonna of course, that was too late by then. They put it out.

But he just calmly addresses these key fundamental

flaws

in the accepted story

that that when you question them,

they open up the whole story, and he's right to do that. Yet, we're not supposed to do it. I mean, maybe we have to learn to communicate by telepathy then

on some vast scale.

Well, you know, it's problem, especially with the Catholic Church. It's a the pope is the prisoner of the Vatican still to this day since the 1800

when the Republic of Italy was established and the Papal States were taken away from him, where he had actual temporal temporal power

over land

and property in such a way that

Catholic law, canon law was was the law of the land.

And that's no longer the case, and Freemasonry

was a big reason that that took place, that, you know, people like Garibaldi

and Mazzini

and, madam, you know, Helena Belovatsky and these sort of characters

took hold of the whole consciousness of of Italian politics at a certain point.

Mhmm.

So

so the pope the pope right now, he's a prisoner

of these

forces that we call, you know, the the whole synagogue of well, I don't I don't dare even say that word because you might get censored, but the whole

I know. I've just started putting this on YouTube. Do you think this one's going down the toilet? No. I don't think so. I we haven't really said anything,

you know,

one way or the other, I don't think. But it's it's just questioning it that that's the real issue.

Yeah. And getting this information out because

and and as a Catholic, I see this from the inside. I I see there was the time when Bishop Williamson was was the excommunication

was being lifted where e Michael Jones

went to visit him in Wembley,

and he was gonna get him to sign a document to to accept Vatican 2, which was the council in this the 19 sixties that I I referred to

as as a legitimate counsel, and he Bishop Williamson refused to do it.

And he's kind of remained a pariah ever since that point. You know?

But he he's always been out of out of, you know, the the mains you could say the mainstream Catholic church

as it states. Look, I I think I'm just looking at the time here. We're just coming to the top of the hour,

and I found the clip, but I'm not gonna play it now. We're gonna play a song here. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna play a song. And and then I'm gonna we'll just talk a bit more about Bishop Williamson because of his passing at the weekend. This is highly relevant. And, I found the clip, so we're gonna do it. Let me, let me just put a song on first. So oops. Look at that. I buggered it up.

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His

hair

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And, welcome back to the second hour here on Paul English Live. I'm joined by, one werewolf from Essex and a couple of werewolves over

in the United States of America.

I'm not a werewolf from London.

I'm not a werewolf from London. Honest, Gove.

Always loved that song. Love it. I love the idea of werewolves flying around in London. I always thought it it was pretty neat, really. So some got some neat little lyrics. Chinese menu in his hand.

Especially

with a Chinese menu. Yeah. I've I mean, I I once went down and checked out, tried to find out where Lee Ho Fooks was. It did exist. I mean, you know, I think,

that's by Warren Zevo. It's a classic track for is that the seventies? It must be. Must be mid to late seventies, I think, that thing. But some great lyrics. That thing and his hair was perfect. I just love it. It's great. I'd like to meet his tailor.

So he was a well dressed werewolf. At least this is good. You know, it's very, very good. Anyway, I'm here with a, a few little werewolves hanging around the microphones. Welcome back to part 2. We just ended there talking about Bishop Richard Williamson.

And I've got this speech,

so I better I better just play it. Right? So I don't know what year do you know what year this is? This is I think it's this century, isn't it? It's maybe about 15 years years ago.

It had to have been

see, pope Francis

was pope in 2013.

Mhmm. So 2008

was when Benedict

was elected or before that. I'm not sure when

what what the time frame is, but I'd say in the 2000.

Mhmm. It's when it took place.

Well, let's play it. He says some pretty good stuff here or some how can I put it? Incisive things, which you may not all agree with, but it's worth hearing these things. And it's also in honor of the fact that he were He made a massive contribution and that he has just passed away this weekend. Or was it was it today? Was it early or last night, I think it was, wasn't it? Yeah. Wednesday night.

Wednesday evening. So in honour of him, and bless him, I know Andy interviewed him a few times, and I think I spoke to him sort of off mic a couple of times. I introduced

him to Andy.

Oh, Patrick. It's just all coming together. Wonderful. Badgers, Bishop Williamson, everything. Really good. No. It's fantastic. That's really good. Anyway, this is from this interview with, I think, it's Swedish TV crew,

from about, what, 15 years ago, we think, something like that. It's 5 5 and a bit minutes. So here we go.

Bishop Williamson, are these your words?

There was not one Jew killed by the gas chambers.

It was all lies, lies, lies.

Are these your your words?

You're quoting from Canada, I believe. Yes.

Many years ago.

I believe

that

the historical evidence

is strongly against is is

hugely against

6,000,000 Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers

as a deliberate policy

of,

Adolf Hitler.

But you say not one Jew was killed?

In gas chambers.

So there was no gas chambers?

I believe there were no gas chambers.

Yes.

I think the as far as I have studied the evidence, I'm not going by motion.

I'm going by

as far as I've understood the evidence.

I think, for instance,

people who are

against

what

is very widely believed today about, quote, unquote, the holocaust.

I think that people

Those people conclude,

the revisionists, as they're called,

the I think the most serious conclude

that between 23100000

Jews perished

in

Nazi concentration camps, but not one of them by gassing in a gas chamber.

The you may have heard of the Leuchter report.

Fred Leuchter was an expert

in gas chambers. He designed 3 gas chambers for 3

states,

3 of the 50 United States for the execution criminals.

So he knew what's involved.

And he studied what the supposed gas chambers

in Germany at some point in the 19 eighties, what remains of the supposed gas chambers,

the crematoria

at Birkenau, Auschwitz, for instance.

And his conclusion, his

expert conclusion was it's impossible that these could ever serve

for the gassing of large numbers of people.

Because

cyanide gas is very dangerous

if you if you let's supposing you gas,

300 people that you've crowded into one chamber

and you gas them. They're all wearing they're wearing some clothes. For instance, if they're wearing any clothes,

it's very dangerous to go in and pull pull out the corpses

because one whiff of gas that's trapped in the clothing, they spakes on the clothing, will kill the person. It's extremely dangerous.

In order to once you view gas people,

you've got to get rid of the you've got to evacuate the gas to be able to get into the chamber again and use it. To evacuate the gas, you need a high chimney.

If it's a low chimney, the gas goes onto the pavement and kills anybody walking by. You need a high chimney. Right? I forget how how high you says it must be.

If you

if there was a high chimney,

then the shadow at any most times of day, the shadow would have fallen on the ground, and the allied

aerial photographers that flew over the camps

would have picked up the shadow of this chimney. There were never any sun shadows. There was no such chimney, which gets going to Fred Leuchtt's testimony, there can't have been grass chambers.

He looks at the doors, and then he says,

the door has to be absolutely

airtight.

Otherwise, again, the gas escapes and kills the people outside.

The the doors of the gas chamber that is shown to tourists at Auschwitz is absolutely not airtight. Absolutely not. So you know What you're saying now is that the holocaust never occurred,

not in the way,

history is written today.

I am going by what I judged to be, the historical evidence,

according to people who have an observed and examined that evidence,

I believe that what they conclude,

I would if they change their conclusion, I would be liable to follow their conclusion because I think they judge by the evidence.

I think that

2 to 300000

Jews perished

in Nazi cons in Nazi concentration

camps, but nothing like,

that none of them buy a gas chamber.

I don't know if you know This is not antisemitism.

What is antisemitism?

Antisemitism

if antisemitism if antisemitism

is bad,

it's

against

truth. If something is true, it's not bad.

I'm I'm not interested in the word anti semitism. I mean, you know, the the word is is is very The bishop calls you antisemitism. The bishop can call me

he can call me a dinosaur. He can call me an idiot. He can call me what he likes. I this is not a question of name calling. This is a question of historical truth.

Historical truth goes by evidence and not by emotion.

There's certainly been a huge exploitation.

Germany has paid out 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of Deutsche Marks and now Euros

because the Germans have a guilt complex about their their having gassed 6,000,000 Jews, but I don't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed.

Now be be careful. I I beg of you. This is against the law in Germany.

If there was a German somebody that's a German state, you could have me thrown into prison before I leave Germany. I hope that's not your intention.

That's bishop Richard Williamson who passed away yesterday evening, Wednesday evening,

and, that's a speech or an interview he did about 15 years ago.

And, I haven't heard that for about 3 years,

and it's very clear.

And,

gents, thoughts on that, if you have any.

Go ahead,

Eric. Certainly very brave, but there's also another.

There's a father. I don't know his name. J m. I don't know what his full name is.

He is actually on YouTube, believe it or not, and it's a miracle, excuse the pun, he hasn't been taken down.

Have you seen his links? And it's was it Yes.

The website I'm sorry. The site on YouTube, it's,

I made a note of it. I haven't got it really to hand, if you excuse me.

It's something to do with was it tradition and something, is it? Has anybody else got his

link? But,

he's very, very interesting what he says, But he chooses his words very carefully.

And maybe he's picked up, you know, where

Bishop Williamson left off. He's carrying it on.

So yeah. Yeah. I think so.

Yeah. Do you have any idea what the

I wrote it down.

Please excuse me. I'm just trying to find where it is on YouTube,

for your list for the listeners.

I think it's tradition and something or other. His father, JM,

and very, very interesting. Maudsley. There we go.

James Maudsley.

M m a w

d

s l one. Isn't it? He sounds English.

I believe so.

Very interesting.

Yeah. He's on Rumble.

Now,

regarding

Bishop Williamson,

you were asking what time what what what was the time frame that that interview took place?

And it was just

I'll I'll read this from Wikipedia.

This is the section called lifting the excommunication.

Wishing to heal heal the rift with the SSPX,

which stands for Saint Society of Saint Pius the 10th,

Pope Benedict

the

16th lifted the the declared automatic excommunications

of the 4 bishops Marcel Lefebvre

had consecrated

as they had requested.

The decree was signed on the 21st January

2009,

the same day that the interview on Swedish television was broadcast.

2009, was that? January

2009.

I wasn't far off at 2010, was I? Yeah. I thought it was around about then. Yeah. We're actually close to the anniversary of that.

For that matter, January 21st January

Mhmm. 2009.

And it caused quite a stir.

And as a consequence,

the pope

had to make an apology.

He didn't have to, but he he chose to.

Now that's

that's the question though, like,

like, if he had not,

where would we be? What what would have taken place? We can I guess this is a speculative type question, but

if the pope had decided to defend bishop Williamson

and his decision to say that,

I think the world would be a different place right now?

That that was a pivotal moment

that took place

as a consequence.

It's because

he

it's because of who says these things. This is where power lies. It's to do with who can command the ears of people or at least

people lend them their ears.

And, I thought it was an excellent communication in 5 and 3 quarter minutes, and you could tell how guarded he had to be with his words. It was obvious,

and he wanted to be. But I think the telling thing is it's not about name calling. It's about a pursuit of the truth.

And,

factually, what he said is my understanding as well. Unless somebody turns up to say that this is all completely

the facts are completely incorrect. Can't debate it is the problem.

That's that's Or we're not even fully letting go here, are we? I'm not.

No. No.

Definitely.

But again,

we to to me, they are dishonouring

genuine people that suffered.

People that did starve to death. Yes. And the people and everybody.

And by singling themselves out, I metaphorically, I think they dig in their own grave. Well, that's because it's sin offering.

This is what it is. It's a it's a it's a sort of sin offering so that these people who feel these leaders who called for the mass murder of people,

I'm talking about the allies and their their area bombings.

State.

The highest form of the state is the military.

And that is we have here in America, I say it's one of the it's the most corrupt military on earth,

most evil military on earth.

And

these people have to justify their evil actions,

and this is a way that they do it by

invoking But the this I this religious notion of a holocaust

in order to justify

mass murder.

Actual mass murder people. But there was a there was a there was a holocaust, and it it it actually happened in Dresden.

That was a that that was firebombing. And other places too. Yeah. And Tokyo That was and Berlin and Hamburg.

That was a mass carnage.

Not on the same scale, but of course we had the blitz as well in this country. But not on the same scale. Well well, you know, 50,000 people, you know, you you start talking about numbers like that, and it's just absolute

yeah. It's like,

well, is it 50,000 or a 100,000? It's like, well, you're still talking about tens of thousands of people murdered in a, you know,

in a single

event.

It was like And also

sorry. I didn't mean to cut in there. But, Patrick, do you wanna carry on? Or sorry.

No. Please go. Please go.

The other thing that is overlooked

is that,

a lot of people,

especially in the blitz of London, I don't really wanna go off the subject too much, but this is something that's very much overlooked.

It's that,

you there's 2 types of anti aircraft guns, the and

there's naval guns. And they actually put naval guns around the poor areas of London.

And what happens is you've got to be very accurate with those guns. They're fine at sea because what happens, the shell goes up. Now that hits the aircraft, if it doesn't hit the aircraft, it comes down into the sea. But when you're over,

cities,

the shell goes up. And if it misses the aircraft, it comes down on housing.

And

it is believed that,

as many or if not more people were killed

by our,

anti aircraft shells

as any form of bombing. Because with ACAC,

you see, what happens there is,

something goes up. They put a time, a fuse timer on on on the on the shell that goes up, And it explodes in the air. And the idea is it splatters,

explosive in all directions

and damages the plane or brings it down.

But again, with the the other with an

that's the other type of, anti aircraft type shell. But they didn't have them around the poor areas.

And I could go into it a little more, but I I think we're going off subject a little bit if I don't. But, again Well, I you

not really because I think I think, you know, something that you're touching upon there, Eric, is just the sheer mess of these things. Obviously, we read reports and things which were written calmly after the event, probably, you know, by people who were there so they're accurate.

But at the time, when an event is unfolding in real time,

it's almost impossible to know exactly what's going on, particularly when it's this sort of stuff.

I would imagine I've not been under a bomb attack, and I'd rather avoid one between now and leaving it here. That's not the sort of thing that you want. And then you get reports from people and they're all slightly different. They're their reality of what took place. You can,

ascertain the core of the truth, but you can never nail it down precisely.

And under these circumstances, there's all sorts of messy terrible things. I mean, I think one of the things that's painted out is, oh, if if you're if you're saying that's true, then obviously

you think the sun shone out of the German's bottoms.

Well, I don't.

But in terms of the exaggeration of their supposed cruelty, I think that that has been massively exaggerated because it benefits the other side to do so. And as we all well know, the court historians of the winners

win through in terms of

being able to actually pound the minds of everybody, you know, and the other side never gets heard. What we're touching upon here is this particular topic, but it's hearing the other side. And one of the things, of course, that the Internet has done is is made us,

it's put us in a position where we've been able to hear it. Yeah. And and then I evaluate it and I go so, you know, normally, when we're talking about any of these sorts of topics, it just happens to be this one this evening because it's relevant and timely

for all sorts of reasons.

But we're often talking to people who only have in great part that court historian

from the winner's side in their head. Understandably so. It's not their fault, but most people go, I know what went on.

They know what they've been told that went on, but they only know at least half if a if if but a third of the story.

And it's only until you get the other side. But then all the questions start to pop up because you begin to perceive that the official story you were given was manure,

and then you find out that it was concocted and conscious manure put in place.

And this sort of view of history then becomes, hopefully, a permanent companion with you, a bit like, you know, a parrot on your shoulder just tapping your conscience all this time. Are you sure about this? Are you sure? Do you need to ask more questions? Yeah. Generally, you need to ask more questions. And in due course, the answers tend to come. And you have to ask some benefits.

Who benefits?

Ultimately. And and it's we could bring it into our modern day

and talk about the the war going on or the, you know, the battles in Donetsk,

between the Russians and the Ukrainians.

Because Exactly. Yes. A lot of these places,

these named places that you hear about

were all in all in major battles during World War 2.

For instance, Kursk,

where there's been a lot of action going on.

That was the largest tank battle

ever took place in years. There probably never will be one as large as that again. They don't use tanks anymore. They use drones, don't

they? Don't they? Because drones have replaced tanks to to a great degree. I mean, Harvey here in in the chat says the Germans can't have been so bad

if Jewish camp workers decided to flee the west

with them to escape the Red Army. Indeed. There are all these

other factors that need to be taken into account to build up the picture. There I think anybody that's inquired into the other side,

generally, we come out with a particular view. It's not liked. It's definitely pooh poohed. It's frowned upon. It's even made unlawful and illegal across Europe. Apparently, here it hasn't.

But I wouldn't run around promoting this stuff because it would stir it up. And I don't want to stir it. We wanna calm it down if anything. Well, it seems that we have a are being manipulated

because both both sides were manipulated

in World War 2 as well, and there were betrayers

on both sides.

Yes. There

were. Absolutely were. That needs to be taken into account. I mean, I'm reading I'm reading a book by David Irving, and he's going into

the initial

thing that kind of set off all of this bombing of of Germany

and Yeah. England. And it was the the bombing of Freiburg in in 1940 I think it was 19 it was either it was 1940, I believe. May 10th. It's when Churchill became prime minister, the day that he became prime minister, which His very first instruction that morning was was to bomb.

It's the first thing This is the thing, though. Did. This is the this is the thing.

Is in Durban in in David Irving's book, he he talks about how

there was a bombing raid by the Germans that was ordered of Dijon in France.

And they they may have mistaken it for

Freiburg and bombed them themselves.

It was only 3 bombers that took off

and did this that initiated

it.

And it's like,

who and it might might have been kept hidden. You know, it it's just one of the biggest mysteries of the war was that whole bombing of Freiburg

and who was responsible because everybody's pointing their fingers at each other. It's like the French did it. No, the British did it or the Germans did it to themselves. It's like, well, who did it? And does it really matter? And what should have happened at that point was let's sit down and talk

because they could have think of how many

lives could have been saved if they had just said this is getting out of control. Let's sit down and have peace talks because this is not going to happen. We don't want this

go any further. There were people being manipulated

on both sides Yep. Yep. But but when

that's right. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut in there. But when Hess came over, it could have happened then.

And what happened? Do you know there was 2 secret services? There was the actual secret service, and there's Churchill's secret service. And Churchill's secret service got there first. It got him.

If the other secret service had got there,

then

it's history would have been a little bit different. It probably would. Be short then. And Absolutely right. The other thing that's overlooked is the Frankfurt School, as we all know, was booted out of Germany and then went to America.

And the Frankfurt School was heavily in in involved in the denazification

of Germany. The New School, they call it, in New York and Manhattan.

Yeah. The New School.

And that was the Frankfurt School. And it's communism.

Because the the the Tavist sorry. Not the Tavistock Center. The Frankfurt School and the Tavistock Center, of course,

although they remained in Great Britain,

are what I believe are communists, which is terrible things.

So what we have is a kind of,

brainwashing

that went on.

That's

it's,

it's horrendous because, especially, when you hear the terrible things that the allies got up to as well.

So

in war, terrible things happen.

Like, very few people realize

that Britain, and I've probably mentioned this before,

had,

a series of torture chambers

around where they tortured

German POWs to get information.

And, there was one behind the Dominion and Tottenham Court Road in London.

There are more.

And that can you could you could justify that and say they needed to do that in order in order to prevent the deaths of

thousands of people.

But you want to I I mean, there's a long trail there's a long trail of the reduction in that quality

that supposedly existed, and I think it did, called chivalry,

you know,

from the middle ages.

Chivalry is

the

reading something about

I'm gonna do a show. One of the books on it is about the battle of Towton in Yorkshire.

Yorkshire's a very battle strung county to be the 2 biggest battles took place in Yorkshire. There's Towton in 14/61,

and there's Marston Moor, which was a pivotal battle in the so called English Civil War. Nothing civil about it.

And,

the,

the the little bit I was reading at the beginning about chivalry is that

when it was clear that a side had lost,

the

commanders or the leaders of the victorious

side,

their first instructions were that the foot soldiers were to be spared.

Immediately, you stop killing people immediately.

Right? They were to be spared.

Not the knights and the leaders of the other side. They were to be taken out, and they were.

But it was to extend

mercy and courtesy to those that had been,

couldn't have avoided fighting for their lord as it were. They had no choice in it. In other words, the decision making was not with them even though they had fought bravely or whatever they've done.

That I I don't wanna go too off, but the the Townton story is amazing.

It's the biggest loss of English life in one day ever, more than the sum,

28,000

men dead in one day, 10 hours of fighting,

on Palm Sunday in 14/61.

And there are all these little I'm completely intrigued by it. It's only about a 140 pages long, this thing, so I should whistle through it.

Maybe we'll cover Touton next week or something, since we might be going through a little military phase for a few weeks, which we kind of are.

The whole scale of it and the operations of how these battles were fought back then is a it was just new stuff to me. I've never really looked into it.

And it was not possible to actually escape from volleys of arrows. You couldn't get away from them. So the whole way that the fights unfolded were that

if you came out worst in the battle of the archers, you were

likely to lose that fight.

Everything that took place after that, you were on the back foot. And the the guys that were getting hammered by the arrows couldn't retreat because there was a rear guard behind them. And on a battlefield, they haven't got any tannoys or anything. Just men shouting across.

I mean, I don't have any obviously, there were 28,000 dead. There are about 50, 60,000 men on the field.

Can you imagine that?

Holy moly. It's unbelievable, really. There's not even a a sign to it. I've gone slightly off beam here, but I'm just that that wearing down of chivalry continued. And in civil war, it gets worse.

It's much worse. So when it was a battle with another nation, that would happen. But when it's a so called civil war, an internal strife, it's worse. There's much less

mercy shown

because it's as if the person on the other side has betrayed you and the entire nation, so the fury is that much greater.

And I would imagine there was something similar in terms of the spirits of the Americans during the war between the states. I don't know because I'm not super knowledgeable about it, but that's why they say that civil wars, supposed internal wars are the worst types, and I could see it from that point of view. But Churchill basically was at the tail end of no more chivalry.

The idea of bombing women and children

is sick. And you can tell this from much of the graffiti. I've I think I mentioned this graffiti that was discovered at Ely Cathedral when they were repairing it about 15 years ago,

on a repair that had taken place there

during the war when the cathedral had received a bomb and some men had gone back in to plaster up the walls. And as they in 2000 and odd, they took this plaster off and there's this

extremely fruity languaged graffiti

aimed at church original.

I've got it.

I've actually got it because,

I knew a chap that lived there, and he got it for me. So I've actually got it. I can take a picture of it.

And

the other thing I was sort of going to say

is that talking about chivalry,

what is not reported,

but it is in my dad's book, is that,

my dad witnessed on several times.

He reckons it was there there were everybody

that he saw

absolutely adhered to the Geneva Convention

100%.

They were absolutely hot on that. And not only that,

he witnessed several times where Germans

would risk their lives to save the injured

of the allied side. And it sometimes happened the other way around as well.

So this idea,

and also,

after d day,

because he was in the frontline intelligence, there was officer surrounded. And by the way, when I say that, he was the lowest rank, and he was a conscript,

and and he only got into it because they had such a high casualty rate.

And

some German stretcher bearers wandered into their lines,

and

they said, we're here to save lives.

And they went out under heavy fire because our stretcher burrows have got killed,

and for 48 hours brought back wounded

Tommy's as English

as well as Germans.

And they had to be ordered to stop because it was against the Geneva Convention. They had to go back to the cage.

And the men were choked when they went.

Now those brave chaps,

they saved loads of lives. You don't hear about that. There's no monuments to them,

but they risked their lives. They could have gone had it Cushing gone back to prisoner of war camp, but no, they didn't.

So you don't hear about that that form of bravery. And there was also a German officer that risked his life

to actually dress the wounds of a downed English

airman.

And the

my dad's lot came across this airman. He was in a,

a shed,

and he said what had happened.

You know,

there's hell of heavy bombardment,

but they could hear this man screaming out. So what they did, they they dragged him to a shed and just his wounds.

So

and I've got loads more. I won't bore you with it. You know? For example,

an English paratrooper was found by a couple of German,

squadies,

and they risked their lives. He's very badly injured to take him to a forward German medical center, and they said the German medic saved this man's life.

Loads and loads and loads of occasions like that. You never hear that. All you hear is the nasty, beastly Germans.

But then on the other hand,

the allies

were very, very cruel. Because when,

Paris fell or was inverted commas liberated,

they had a huge football stadium where they rounded up,

what who they believed to be collaborators.

And a lot of them were tortured,

were killed.

Terrible

things happened. So,

I think we will got to look at this on an even playing field.

I I I think you're right. And you're right. There there's I mean, the theme here, not that anybody's gonna be surprised by this, very simple, and it's just a reminder,

is that there's just so much chaos in these things. You have people acting at times on their own initiative

and doing things that their commanding officer would frown upon and so on and so forth. I don't know. I've not been in the heat of battle. So to do brave things like that is is astonishing and wonderful and good, and there was good and bad done on both sides. The thing that it tells us is that the narrative that we are given courtesy of, let's just call it Hollywood,

the mainstream media, is flawed and not just in a minor way, but in a majorly way.

Such a way that it shifts the context for how you view the entire thing.

And as we've pointed out here, you know, when we're discussing more current affairs,

World War 3 began at the end of World War 2. It's been waged using psychological

warfare, social engineering. Now they've been using, of course, pharmaceuticals,

to wreck things. This sort of agency in the world, the money power is what I call it really because I always sort of go back to that route. It it may be somebody else. It doesn't really matter if we do or don't identify them fully accurately. We've got a good idea of the cluster groups that are involved as

as the masons, for example. I think they would be responsible for much

of the undermining behavior in all the armies.

All of them. They must you know, they're they're much more loyal to actually passing information amongst one another

because it's the brotherhood that came first, and they would have been high ranking masons. And, you know, had they not done that, they would have probably been poisoned after the war or something. I'm sure they were all concerned about things like this, you know, once you get involved in these groups.

Well, the Masons, many of them, avoided frontline service anyway. They were in reserved occupations.

No. Really?

Well, then you they probably have the strings available and you have to pull them.

You are but you might be booted off a YouTube, so I better not.

I don't mind. It's okay. I think,

what what we're trying to do here is trying to find a way of talking about this without coming across us in some kind of strident,

agitating way.

It's the it's setting up conditions for communication where we can ascertain the truth.

I'm quite satisfied with the truth. I personally hold on this. I wouldn't communicate all of these things but many people that probably heard what we were doing 5 or 10 years ago know them and they're probably not dissimilar to many people that have also gone down a similar path of which there are far, far more now than there have ever been courtesy of

our use of the Internet, you know, which I would say, of course, is the correct use of it.

I remember because film about Luther back in 99

called mister death, the rise and fall of Yes. Fred a Luther,

which was done by Errol Morris.

Yeah. And Erol Morris is interesting because he have you ever heard of Werner Herzog, the filmmaker from Germany? Yes. The the German director. Yeah. Yeah. He he was he was the one that got him inspired to got Errol Morris inspired to make films,

and, eventually, he did. But,

it that that film in particular, the the mister Death movie,

it comes across as though they're trying to make it seem like this guy is a lunatic, but it actually

is a flattering documentary

toward him because of the fact that they let him talk.

And that's just it. If you let people talk and say what Yeah. Is on their mind,

whether they're right or wrong,

you can you can correct them if they're wrong,

and you can judge for yourself if it's true or not by doing your own research.

Absolutely right. Anybody else anybody should be held to that standard.

We're we're merely seeking the opportunity to be proved wrong.

Because I it's not about being right. It's actually about, you know, being less wrong. You know, I say this. I wanna be less wrong today than I was yesterday. That's quite satisfying for me. That I'll accept that.

You

know, when you're younger, I know I was, and maybe

you you wanna be absolutely right about everything. I mean, it's how you survive a situation. You argue pointlessly

about things that really don't count for much because you get passionate about them, and you don't wanna be seen to be wrong amongst your mates or whatever it is. I mean, that stuff still goes on with politicians all the time. It's why they're completely deaf.

They're totally deaf. They can't hear things that they don't wanna hear because they accuse us of that, but they're the main proponents of it.

And so this whole space of communication is riddled with these egos

that are never gonna be wrong ever. They're never gonna be wrong. And therefore, what's the point of talking to them?

And when people come along and ask

extremely awkward questions,

you know, there's a phrase I've mentioned it before, throw around, is,

if they get you asking the wrong questions, it doesn't matter what answers they give you. And that's really very much been the context for mainstream media for donkey's ears.

Everybody's attention is directed into

second or third level

issues of importance, whereas the main one, everybody's seen it sat on the table going, can we talk about this? No. You can't talk about that.

As soon as you bottle up the talk, you're laying in the groundwork for conflict.

That's what it is. I mean, war is a condition between parties that can't resolve disputes

through communication.

1 or both sides are denied it, or they they just give up on it and they would rather fight

than than carry on this way. It's an interesting thing as well, just hopping back to the town thing

or warfare during that period or battles would be a better way of describing them.

It took so much effort and energy to muster your army on the day,

certainly in England, and I would imagine the same would hold true for Europe at the same time, because you've got basically men on horses running around to lords and all over the place weeks prior to a scrap, saying, saying, how many men have you got? And they've gotta muster them all and get them all in a field, and they've all got their different badges. I'm thinking, yeah, that's quite a thing.

And so if they found the other army, they would always engage in battle,

every time.

There was only one incidence, I think, over 200 years where someone declined to do it. And the reason was

it was so expensive to feed these men in the field. It was so long and arduous, and they're out in the open air and stuff. They'd just rather get on with it immediately while they had the energy to fight, so they did

immediately.

There they are again. It was a bit like that so many times. I mean, there was a bit of forethought.

But that those were the conditions back then. What, so we could apply that to modern day

warfare, couldn't we? And and even in of the last century.

Mhmm. It's like it's too expensive to house these people if if they should lose their houses or feed them.

Yes. Why not make a deal?

Yeah. I guess running out of fuel for our tanks. Go. Why? Because if you wait another day, there's no way we can win.

We we, you know, we might our chances might be poor now, but by tomorrow, they're gonna be less than 0. Go now. Do it. Because if we don't, they're going to attack us anyway. So and then you think this is a crazy decision, is it? I mean, it's a bit like

the attributed crazy decision to Germany to invade Russia.

But when you actually step back and look at how they did it,

you kinda feel that they had to do it. I'm certainly going on the works of Suvorov for this, which I know some people pooh pooh and say, oh, no. He's a he's another plant leaking different stories, but I don't think so. There's a coherence.

I think when you read certain things that have got

pertinent facts in, facts that appear to be very relevant to why the situation ended up the way it did, the story presents itself to you hidden between the sentences. You get a real good feeling for it. It's not full of bravado.

It's not full of wild crazy heroic claims.

It's these were the conditions. These were the logistics. This is what they were facing at the time. This is why they took the decisions that they did. Yes. They lost. They got wiped out. But what else could they have done?

It's this sort of once it gets going, you can see it's really difficult to stop it. And they said that really in these medieval battles. Once it's no one could stop one, once it got going. How do you stop it? Stop everybody. No one could even hear you. Everybody's getting their heads chopped off.

It's literally just such a din on the field for, like, 8 hours. No one could get a word through to anybody.

And if you didn't know whether that's why the flags became important because you had to rally around them because you then at least with your own men. I mean, there was an incident that we're talking about where somebody's flag on their own side was mistaken for the enemy and they wiped them out. These guys were trying to tell they were their allies just like we were talking about earlier. You know, Erica, you're talking about the ack ack guns and things like that. Friendly fire.

They don't talk about that very much. About the banners

Mhmm. Warfare.

The end signs. Find that. Yeah. In this home. Yeah.

But that's Yeah.

Yeah. And that's that's what we're left with is this conundrum though. Like,

that. You said that there was one battle in 200 years that was prevented because of the fact that they were starving.

Right? And that's the poor conditions. They they were exhausted.

Yeah. And I think They just had to get on with things in a particular way. It gets out of hand, doesn't it? And and that element is obviously still present in warfare, although it's scaled down. Obviously,

the whole idea of large scale military operations doesn't appear to exist anymore. Well, Russia Ukraine is kind of an example though.

Yeah. But that feels like an artificial it doesn't that feel bogus to you? It does to me. It's like It does. But at the same time, you've got claims of 1,000,000 of on each side die having died. Yeah. Like, a 1000000000 Ukraine you've got Trump, president Trump, saying

a 1000000 have died on the on the Ukrainian

side or on the Russian side. And it's like How do we verify that? How do you I mean, who's to be believed? Verify that. I know. I it's true.

And

the thing of it is,

I'm looking at Germany back in World War 2.

Right? They were a financial

success

story

with Homer, Homer Schacht,

and

the way that they were able to get usury out of the banks.

But at the same time,

I think they had a bit too much pride

in hindsight

of that fact

that they were they were independent

of of the others other countries around them.

Now that

that's that's a big problem because

it led to the deaths,

the unnecessary deaths of so many people. I think I mean, you think, yeah, it was a great thing what they did, but at the same time,

what did it lead to, and how could it have been prevented?

Because in hindsight, it's I don't know. I don't know how you could prevent any of it. I mean, it is obviously. We look back on it in retrospect and see as we see through the accounts of others.

And and, you know, we've mentioned him here and we'll mention him again, but this is why I think the work of David Irving is so vital in this. The sheer

the the colossal amount of research

and the and the build up of all that detail

is you can't encapsulate in a few sentences or even in a show. That's why the books exist. And and, you know, we've mentioned before, you were mentioning the other week, Patrick, that reading

really is

a a core part of any truth seekers

armoury. You you need to be able to do that

and to develop that sort of mental stamina to get into these things because it enables you to contribute to conversations and other thinking afterwards in a way that you can't do if you haven't done that. You you begin to understand more of the issues at stake. And the theme here, although, you know, we've started off talking about the holocaust and and Bishop Williamson's situation,

is this process of trying to ascertain the truth in a fair communication space.

How naive am I? How pathetic is that?

There's probably never ever been one.

But we think about a court

really operating well as as supposedly being just that.

And

yet if we look at the law systems of the west now,

who thinks that they're honourable and decent and transparent?

No one. No one thinks that.

It's rotten to the core.

I mean, the fact that, you know, that Zundel was able to gain these

wins

in the 19 eighties, of course, court cases which are never mentioned by anybody much apart from researchers, if we call ourselves that and truth seekers,

would go a long way. You know, why have the BBC not made a documentary about that and reenacted it as a drama

with, someone playing Doug Christie?

Be a juicy part. You're You're gonna come out looking great, or are you? Maybe their career would be over. You can't we forbid you to take on this role and to say these words which were actually said in this court. Yeah. It's kind of, they call it dynamic silence,

where they'll say the person's name and they'll say he's bad, but they won't ever say why he's bad.

Yep.

And just ignore them.

I it's a it's a useful tactic to just ignore somebody

that otherwise would be there to challenge a narrative. And and that's

that's what happens, especially when you're you're, I guess, prosperity will do that to a country, entire people, because it's like, well, why do we have to dredge up all that old stuff? And, you know, it doesn't matter. Anyway, we're doing pretty good. We don't have any wars going on here.

But it's like anything, if if they're willing to do it with you.

They're willing to do it to you.

And

we don't have

that in the back of our minds. Like, if we're gonna be immoral

over there

in another country, say Ukraine,

what's gonna happen here someday? You know, so the same people that are asking us to go over there and and send our our treasure and our

our blood.

Mhmm. What what's gonna happen

when they're victorious

and we we challenge something that they want to do here. It's like they're willing to do it over there.

They're willing to do it over here.

And we've we haven't had a war in this country in a long time, and I don't, god forbid, I hope it never happens. But

if if we keep

promoting these things

and saying, well, that'll never happen here, we'll just here, we'll we'll continue this drone warfare over there, and it'll never happen here.

But

it Well, I yeah. I hear you. Warning to people is you people really need to think about what you you support

and what you allow to happen in your name because it's gonna happen to you eventually.

Whether it happens in this generation or in your children's generation, you're gonna have to be accountable for what you do

and be attentive to what you're doing.

Whether and and most people don't, you know, most people

as as long as you've got enough of a roof over your head and food and water,

you're okay.

And I guess there's

there's something noble to that, and that's kind of the way things should be.

But if you can see you can make a difference

and

you're you're even a passive participant in something that you can make a difference about,

you're obligated to do something and say something about it.

Yes.

I guess it's all down to the individual, whether they can find what would be,

a surprisingly large amount of courage compared to how much they exercise during the day,

during their day to day life. I include myself in that assessment. There's there's things we've all got points at which we go, I don't think so.

And, it's understandable because you have to sort of make a judgement, you know, there and then. It's today, I was out on one of my little walks. This is a slighter side, but it's indicative of a sort of communication process side of things.

I had to go and buy some

what was I going to buy? Marmalade.

I've got marmalade in the house. I don't wanna make this an entire food thing, although we maybe should do a food show at some point.

The marmalade I've got is too sweet. Don't like it sweet. I had to go and buy some marmalade. As I'm going there, I bump into a guy I've not seen for 2 or 3 years, and I managed to remember his name, which was I was impressed. I could do that. I'd I'd never bumped him in that often. But he was talking to someone just outside this little supermarket place that I go to. So being a cheery sort, I said hello, and I just barged in and ruined their conversation.

The guy he was talking to was a lay preacher. I didn't realize that until afterwards when he when he spoke to me again a few minutes afterwards.

But we just got around to talking about the condition of England.

And it's interesting because

I would bring up the sorts of points I've mentioned here before to him 3, 4, 5, 6 years ago, maybe even longer than that, actually. Maybe going 8 or 10 years back. And at that time, he would desert the converse even though these people who would desert the conversation almost instantaneously. I've gotta go do this. Something would be coming up. I could see him getting uncomfortable as I mentioned these things.

Not so today.

These are the little things that I'm looking at, personally

to find out where people's hearts and minds are at and they're being compelled to move toward the truth. It's just inevitable. We were talking about politics. I didn't mind. He told me that he joined the reform party, not that he necessarily believed in it all,

but he said it was quite interesting because he was going along to meetings here locally. I thought,

maybe I should do that. Maybe it'd be fun to hear what they have to say because

although I am, of course,

totally dubious and cynical about the political process,

I'm not cynical and dubious about

normal people getting engaged with it, like at a local level.

That's really interesting to me because you find out how people's hearts and minds are really working. And he was genuinely cross. I'm using English under statement. He was unhappy.

He was unhappy about the fact that there wasn't gonna be too much of a future for his son as he could see. I've got sons of a similar age.

They grew up playing sports together 10 12 years ago and and things like that. And I said, good. I'm glad to hear it, you know. And I said a few silly things, as I do or, you know, like,

you know, we need to get back to the old tradition in England of oak trees and hemp rope and everybody understood what I meant. But he came up to me after he said he said, I think you might have put the other guy off. I said, why? He said, well, he's a lay preacher. I said, well, why would that put him off? I said, it's a pity you didn't tell me before. And I said, we could have talked about the Bible. That would have been fun.

Not that I'm intentionally trying to stir it or or distress people, but I think I feel like an obligation to just poke a little, if you know what I mean. And you can feel when people are bridling too much, and I just back off. But I'm finding maybe I just want to think I'm finding this, but I think it's the case that I can go a little bit deeper into topics

which bring them up against the problem that we're really facing. Everybody knows it. And I said, look. I said, I'm not gonna stay out loud, I said, but you all know what's going on. It's in your hearts and your minds, but you're probably slightly anxious about communicating in a group of friends. I said, that's the thing that's got to be lost. That's the thing that you've gotta let go of. You gotta find an ally. You know, if you're concerned about being Billy no mates in a conversation, try and find one other person on the similar wavelength who might,

if not overtly back you up, at least not disagree with you so vehemently, and then you can get people to consider the topic. It's very difficult if it's an argument situation to get people to consider anything. There's just the red mist comes down and and there's not really any thinking at all. So, you know, I take these as encouraging signs. I get worried that they're not happening fast enough, but I'm like that anyway. I've been like that my entire life. Come on. Come on. Come on. You know? When's it all gonna but it's happening. It is happening, and people,

you know, hear what's taking place in the UK

is ridiculous. And, of course,

that's not even the right word.

I'm just using that word. It's not ridiculous. It's something else. But,

the core issues, this barrier in people where they won't talk about the elephant in the room, they're getting closer to to breaching it, I hope,

because,

they're beginning to realize that they need to.

This

is a communications challenge, and it's not about not knowing the truth. It's about expressing it effectively

and to the right people at the right time. It's that kind of a it's more of a logistics challenge around communication.

So I was encouraged by that. And I managed to get my marmalade, which, of course, made the trip all the more worthwhile, really. That was very good. It came back. My toast was excellent after that.

But that's kind of what we're facing, isn't it? This,

discovering the truth process. More people are involved in it now than I've ever been. This is fantastic. It really is. And I sometimes sort of take it for but it it really is. The COVID thing

has given a lot of people who didn't realise they were about to get a kick up the bottom. It's given them 1 and it's been for their betterment, even though it's been uncomfortable, I know,

in many ways for many people, but it's good.

And this issue going back to where we started with historical

truth seeking, particularly around this, what is designed to be a very hot topic to keep you away from it,

is to keep part of the process.

And it has to be done. I mean, you know, I guess many listeners here on Rumble and elsewhere have got

the acumen, the aptitude, the desire to go into

meaty documents. Let's call them that.

And that's great. But we have to I often think I have to realize

that I can't go into that minute detail with layman,

And I'm not trying to be patronizing either. I just I used to be one of those. And I know if people came up to me and overloaded me with highly detailed stuff,

I wouldn't be able to take it on board. You there's a little rejection that takes place in the mind.

I just think that the level's going up. I want to believe that it is maybe. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but I think it is. I think it's spreading out and people are going, there's something not right. They've never even had that thought before. They've just kept their heads down and ploughed on. Now they're saying that doing that is not actually yielding any benefit either.

And, of course, we talked about council tax over here, which is this wonderful tax. And I'm switching to more domestic matters, but there's threats from our wonderful government that they're gonna put it up by as much as 25% in certain areas.

Hopefully wear one of them. I can't wear because I I I gladly sell my house, not its possessions to keep the government

ticking over because they do such a wonderful job, he said, sarcastically and not meaning a word of it. But,

yeah, this, this communication. I'm just looking at the clock as well. Look at this. Has this flown by or what? Or is it just me? We're coming towards the end of the show here. So we got a couple of minutes to go on,

WBN.

We're gonna be here after the break. So if you wanna carry on listening to the show,

you listen to Paul English Live. We're here on WBN every Thursday,

3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern, 8 PM to 10 PM in the UK, and then we carry on because, you know, we like to talk a bit around here on Rumble. So if you wanna get over to the Rumble or YouTube or whatever, you'll find the links at paulenglishlive.com.

I have a little song to take us over the break, and then we will return after this if I can just find where I've put it. You know what it's like doing all these sorts of things.

Oh, yeah. I've been saying fun fun fun quite a bit recently because isn't it fun here in the UK?

Here is the song fun fun fun. I didn't realize there was it by the Beach Boys.

But they're aided and abetted by an English rock group. This is an ad mix of, 2 bands. This runs for 3 and a half minutes. It's a jolly little rocker. We'll be with you after this.

What do you think of the beach now, mate? It's just

When in London, you get given a coat. Here you are. Oh,

Yeah. When in London, you get given a coat. That was the Beach Boys and status quo. Fun fun fun.

Were you having fun fun fun lads listening to that? I I quite enjoyed that.

Yeah. Good stuff.

Love The Beach Boys.

We love The Beach Boys and Status Quo from

some by the way, Eli James sent me that. He's such a he's such a rocker. He does all this stuff, but, basically, he's always out there listening to rock music. He just can't live without it. And seeing as how it's fun, I wanna play you a joke.

This is a recorded joke. I like this joke a lot. Shout out to my mate, Bernie, who sent this to me. This is a minute long. I laughed a lot when I heard this. Maybe you will too. And then my boy, he come home from work, and he said, daddy, he said, what's the difference between theory and reality? Whatever the hell I know.

I said, well, I'll give you an example. He said, well, I've been told by the teacher, I gotta learn the difference between theory and reality. I said, well, go and ask your mother

if she sleep with a plumber for a million quid.

He come back and said, mother said, yes. She would sleep with a plumber for a million quid. I said, where'd her

go? Now go and ask your sister if she'd sleep with a plumber for a 1,000,000 quid. And he come back, and she said she would as well. I said, there you go. That's the difference between theory and reality.

In theory, we're sitting on 2,000,000 quid.

In reality, we're living with a pair of slappers.

Oh, yeah. There we go. I like that one. There we go. So we're talking about theory and reality, aren't we, to some degree, or fiction and reality. There we go. So, yeah. I like that. I played that too many times.

That was Jethro by the way from, Maleficus and, Shelley's neck of the woods.

I think he shuffled off this mortal coil as well.

Yes. I think he has.

Listen. It's all gone quiet. Can you hear can you hear the sound of silence?

Yes.

That's, Eric. Eric. Quick.

Yeah. That that one was right up your alley.

Oh, well, really. Well, it's very painful.

I miss old Jeff Rodeo. He's good. He was, wasn't he? It's cool. Yeah. It it was very, very good. I like that joke a lot.

I don't know. It just got me. So there you go. It it it really got me that one. I like that a lot.

I send you a little story. Actually, someone sent that story into the Telegram group. Did you get that story I sent that was in the metro today? Oh, I have a bit of maculence.

Yeah. Yes.

There we go. Police got wind of it, didn't they? We'd be holding you at bay for 2 hours. It's wrong of me. I should have let you off the leash earlier than this. It's not right, is it? They stopped wind of it.

They did. They did.

For for those of you not in the know,

a woman

this is in metro.co.uk.

In fact, I'll put the link into the Rumble group for those that like that sort of thing,

which is all of us, I guess, if you wanna go and check it out. We won't go through the whole thing. You can tell from the URL but, it reads, a woman was in court for aggressively

farting at her boyfriend's ex.

So there we go.

This is what makes the news in English papers, you American types. We have a lot of flatulent stories. Well, at least we have this one anyway. Woman in court, Rhiannon Evans, 25, bombarded her boyfriend's ex with inappropriate

videos

of her

breaking wind.

How about that?

This is the new form of communication between, from spurned lovers, I suppose. This is it. They fart in their general direction.

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries, that kind of thing. So there we go. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the opera singer that had, bad flatulence. And every time she hit a high note, it would blast out, you see. So she goes to the doctor,

and she says, you know, I've got this embarrassing problem. When I hit a high note, I keep farting.

Mhmm.

Well, he said,

can you,

you know, he said, lay on my couch. She said, and, you know,

drop your drawers, you know, and all that. He said, I'll give you an examination. He said,

he said, can you start singing? We'll see what happens. You see? So she sings, and suddenly,

sure enough, she gets the parts. So this is and he walks out and he comes back in. This great big pole with a hook on the end. She's, doctor, you're not, are you? She's knocking out the windows ablaze. Terrible smelling here.

Well,

there was there was a guy that went to the drugstore

as the other one in the, Carryout films.

Sorry?

There was a guy that went to the drugstore,

after the owner of the drugstore had left it in

control of this young kid that he had just hired.

So this guy comes in and he said that,

well, he has a a problem with farting. I mean, he he farts all the time.

So the kid,

gives him

something, and,

when the owner of the drug store comes back in, he sees this guy leaning against the wall, kind of like pushing on it.

And the the owner says to the kid,

well, what did he come in for? And the kid said, well, he he came in,

farting. He he needed he wanted something for farting. So the owner of the drugstore says, well, what did you give him? And he said, I gave him that big box of laxatives.

And

the pharmacist says,

you can't do that. That's not gonna help him. And the kid said, oh oh, yes. Here it is. He's been there for about an hour. He's afraid to fart.

Yeah. I'll tell you, we've struck a card now. The the the chat's really woken up. Started it. Uh-huh. I I well, you know, it's just like

Yeah. What's it like? Like Keir Starmer, isn't it?

I just didn't mean to talk over it. But, yeah, Keir Starmer, he's got a face that looks as if he's just discovered

that fart shouldn't be lumpy.

Doesn't he? He's got that continuous look on his face like that. That's what I'm gonna do. Bemused by if he he looks bemused by his own existence. It's almost as if he's surprised,

not really, but he's disconcerted by what keeps coming out of his mouth as well. He does look

puzzled of this parish about things. He really does. I've gotta read a few of these comments out even though they're gonna prove embarrassing for the people that wrote them, in which case you shouldn't have written them, particularly you, Ansela. This is this is shocking stuff. Harvey writes aggressive farting.

There's enough material here for an entire conference,

and he references faulty towers and farty towels was one of the anagrams that they they were. And flowery tarts was one of the other ones, which I quite liked. And then Anne Sally writes, I'm sorry about this Anne Sally, but it's got to be said. You put it it's published already. She says,

I rather enjoy farting in lifts.

Giving accusing stares to anyone who gets in. Yes. Absolutely. This is a good way to make other people feel uncomfortable.

Anyway,

swiftly moving on

from the realm of farts.

Last week, you may remember,

I feel a bit like that's life now. You know when they used to go to, what's his name, Cecil, was it? I used to read those anecdotes from readers and things.

You may recall last week, I read,

the excerpt from Foreigners

by those fine two English ladies whose names I don't have on the screen in front of me.

And maybe, seeing as we've been talking about Germany, we could talk I could do the one on the Germans. Do you fancy a bit of that? It might take a minute or so. We could read the Germans. The one you got from Gary?

That's right. So shout out to Gary. Gary c's made 2 shows in a row, so it's obviously been it's a hit with me. I don't know quite it goes down with everybody else. Paul, get onto another thing, but we're gonna read this one anyway. Again, this is a similar length. This is one of the longer ones, but, but we're gonna do it anyway.

There's one bit in the end that that's quite interesting and what might cause a ripple of disconcerting

amongst us.

Chapter 13 of all chapters, the Germans. It says this, the

the Germans are fat. Remember this is written in 1935, right? So this has to be borne in mind. I'm just reading from a book everybody so make of it what you will. The Germans are fat. This is little wonder because they live exclusively on sausages and beer. They eat a great deal of both and you can't go for a walk in Germany without ending up at a small restaurant where one stops to enjoy the view and have a glass of beer. This has always seemed to us personally a good idea, but most of the English regard it as soulless.

That this should be considered derogatory is rather surprising as soul is a dangerous and rather un English quality. But after all, exercise is sacred and should be made as uncomfortable as possible.

Germans vary a good lot.

The Saxons and Bavarians are fairly alright. The Saxons are even faintly and distantly connected with the English. The Prussians, however, are no good at all. Prussian officers push women off the pavements. They are very cruel and very military and very arrogant in a stupendously untactful way.

Some foreign nations consider the English tactless, and if this is so, it is rather jolly and unhypocritical

of them. But the Germans untact is rude and offensive and puts people's backs up. And this is because they are not really sure of themselves and bluster and brag and bounce and can't stand a little harmless chaff.

Individual Germans are often charming.

Many people can say, I have a German friend with quiet confidence,

Whereas the idea of an individual Frenchman is somehow slightly ridiculous.

Oh, these ladies, where did they come from? But as a nation, Germany does not do. This is because Germans move in large masses and don't think for themselves, but like to be led by the nose and they are invariably

misled. This is one of the most striking things about Germany.

Germans used to venerate the army and the nobility who were all called von, like you, Eric.

They used to wear steel helmets and do the goose step. Now they venerate the stormtroopers and wear brown shirts and swastikas

and stick their arms up in a salute.

Germans are very sentimental. Their 2 great subjects which correspond to Le Patrie and Le Mamon of the French,

De Warteland and Un Die Liber.

German girls, the subjects of all this Liber, are often called Gretchen. They are always rather plump and have fair hair done in 2 long plaits.

They become in time German wives who are completely subject to their lords and masters and think about nothing but cooking.

The Germans are pleased because they like women to be like this. And anyway,

applies to sweethearts but not altogether to wives.

All German schoolboys commit suicide.

This is shocking stuff. All German schoolboys commit suicide. German youths become students and fight brutal, courageous, and disfiguring duels.

Germans are not clever in an unsound dangerous way, one up to them. But they often have great brains.

No one denies them the best musicians, many of the best scientists, and some a one writers.

Oh, hang on. Just slipped. Under these circumstances,

it is rather complimentary though childish of them to assert passionately as they do that Shakespeare was a German.

There are only 2 things against these German brains. 1 is that they are so thorough and painstaking

and use such long words made up of a variety of smaller ones and theorize so much about everything that to those with a keen sense of humour, they become quite laughably solemn.

The other is that many of these great brains are Jews. And that though other nations kindly allow them to Germany,

the Germans themselves declare that they don't count.

We have so far got through this article without reference to that somewhat comical trio, Hitler, Goring and Goebbels.

So many dreary things are known about them all that it is difficult to select the objects of universal knowledge. We shall content ourselves, however, by mentioning Goring's lion cub, Goebbels Jewish grandmother, and Hitler's face.

A nation which could put a face like that at the head of affairs has naturally

no sense of humor. And,

and that's there it is. There's the one on the Germans. It wasn't particularly amusing, was it? But it was quite

interesting Telling. Possibly.

Telling and I don't really agree with us. By the way, that little thing about Goebbels Jewish grandmother, I went and looked it up. And, it's quite an interesting little tale. I think it's probably unproven.

And, it turned out that Goebbels wrote a lot about it. Although I've heard people, you know, say that it it is possibly the case,

but I'm not so sure. I think his grandmother was from Holland, but we would have you'd have to do more research if this is a pertinent point. It certainly was important to these 2 fine English ladies

who just sweepingly,

criticize everybody in this commanding fashion. So there we go. You'll have to tell me who you want me to talk about next week. I'll probably put the nations up, and we can have a vote on it. So there we go.

Anyway, I don't hear much laughter, so maybe I'm gonna have to canvass as a section of the show, but there's so much material here. I don't want to. Well, do they talk about Russians?

They do. Okay. That's long too. Then next Six pages. That's huge.

The Russians. I could find another short one. There's the Welsh. Did I do the Welsh the other week? They're quite short.

The Irish oh, the Irish is long. Six pages. It's huge. And some of as the Belgians, it can always go back to that because it's only 3 sentences or whatever it was the other week.

Yeah. That was that was quite oh, I could do because we did what the English know about the we could did I do what the Americans know about the English last week? Did we do that one? I don't know if we did. You did you did the English about the Americans.

I did. Okay. So let's have the return gig. Here we go.

I think we can find this. It's on page 127.

I'm nearly there.

This is to include all of our American listeners. So this is what, apparently, what you lot know about us.

What the Americans know about the English? This is of a similar length. Oh, no. It's slightly shorter than the previous one.

Okay. And there's a picture of the American idea, which is

a chap in a, in a top hat with very large stripy trousers and a stick and a monocle apparently. So I think he must have been one of those sort of Wall Street turn of the century Americans that's, you know, very well-to-do. It says this, what the Americans know about the English?

You cannot get an edible meal through the length and breadth of Britain.

The English live on beef and boiled cabbages and boiled potatoes, always boiled, and, of course, tea, which they drink pretty well all day long.

The English, and this is really the most outstanding feature,

the English give themselves the most awful airs. We do, Eric, don't we? You you're quite a toff out there at Fockem Hall with all your toffy mates and all that. We do. We give ourselves great airs. Yeah. You meet a it it got yeah. I know. It says, you meet an Englishman and he thinks he's better than everybody else. Well, what do you expect us to think?

Sorry. And, you ought to know it. He thinks he's better than every and you ought to know it. You just must be prepared for those awful airs.

The English wear monocles and spats and tall hats and striped pants. They develop gout in middle age.

The English are good diplomats.

A downright upright forthright American may be a magnificently

shrewd and capable man in his own country, but put him down among the striped pants and the monocles in front of a duchess with a cup of tea in his fist, and he's absolutely done for. He can't cope with snakes.

The English live in a thick fog and they open railway carriage windows.

The English are proud of muddling through and they shouldn't be because they would manage a great deal better if they didn't.

The English, and it seems kind of mean of them to be both, make domineering and unfaithful husbands.

That's not true.

The English are rude. Well, they walk through doors in front of you and turn their backs on you and read newspapers when they should be attending to you and never introduce you to anyone and ask you to tea on Thursday week when they owe you several immediate dinners and sit in silence not making the faintest effort to speak to you or take any notice of you at all.

The English are frightfully hypocritical.

They talk about ideals and they are so practical. You hardly comment anymore or blame them. You just take it for granted that inevitably, as night follows morning, it is the nature of the English to be out for the main chance. You wouldn't mind so much if they weren't so false and highfalutin about it. The English have no sense of humour.

So there you go. That's the American assessment from their point of view of the English.

A different world,

A different world. 85 years ago. No. 90 years ago, this was written. Wow. Fred Emery was the typical Englishman. Do you remember Fred Emery? I loved Fred Emery. Absolutely loved Fred Emery. Do do you remember that advert for, Texaco

Haviland Motor Oil with Peter Cook? And there's Peter Cook with his

girlfriend,

and,

Fred Emery is on the other end of a phone that split the screen.

And Fred Emery,

is is acting the part of rules of grumpy Englishman type. And,

his daughter says, oh, she says, hey, daddy. You know, Timothy is going to take me out and use new sports car. Oh, that idiot, you know. And,

she said, yes. He's got,

Texaco heavily motor on it. Oh, he's got some sense at last.

And he doesn't he doesn't know that his daughter's handed

the phone over to,

a boyfriend

who's,

Peter Cook. And he says, oh, that'll please that old bag of a father of yours.

And the top but his monocle, you know, Freddie, when his monocle drops out of his eyes, he as he says he says that. And that's that's

the end of the effort. It's brilliant, it was. Years ago Should we get have you got a monocle, Eric? You've you have to get one get one for your show. Get one. I should though. Because I I I'm going all sorts, what's they call it, to steampunk.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Monocles in steampunk. They must have. Oh, do you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think they do.

I think you can get one. They can't cost much. It's only half a spectacle, isn't it, when you think about it? Really. It's a little bit of glass, isn't it? And I mentioned before, I did work with a guy that wore one all the time, and he was very close to saying bye Jove all the time. He was one of those guys. He was fabulous.

Where do they come from? He's a little factory that makes you. Bye Jove.

You know, he's just great. And all these other phrase was whenever when he burst out laughing, if every if if he was teased about somebody, oh, you silly ass. And he used to say,

he was he was grand. I loved him. He's probably no longer with us. Stuart,

if you're hearing this, used to sell cranes. He was a guy that had been worth a lot. And then I met him when he was on the way down. I met a lot of people. I didn't realize it at the time. A lot of people sort of, oh, this lad's got a bit of energy. I wonder if we can get something going here. It was a bit like that. When I was in my early thirties, a lot of fun. It's great. I'm I'm glad I met them, all these people. And his cousin was a national hunch jockey and had gone to South Africa. They just let I'm I'm going, but I just come from a small house in Yorkshire. This is like an ex I was introduced to people who lived a completely different way, but they were great. They weren't snotty about it. They were very funny. I loved them actually. They were really good really good human sorts. Even when they were broke, they were, oh, well, never mind. Let's have a beer. And all this kind of stuff, it was it was fine.

Well, I was I worked with a I worked with a bloke who was,

you know, the tip brill cream type, you know, that had a sort of like

a a typical

19 thirties haircut with brill cream

with a slight sort of and,

he,

I I was into I was the stupid boy. A bit like catap bloke in dad's army. What's his name? Pike in those days. And I used to read a lot of books about UFOs, and I was really into that. Not all crap. Excuse my language. And,

I was,

at one lunch house sitting there behind the drawing board, reading this book by some bloke about a world triangle or something like that. And this,

he was a structural engineer. He walked past my

board. He sort of picked the book out of my hand, and he looked at it. He says, what's this? So I said, oh, I said, it's a book by a.

You know? You're first it's so chucked about. As I have to say, you stupid boy. A little rubbish. Yeah. He said, well, I'll tell you something, and this is quite interesting.

Before he became a, an engineer, or I suppose I don't know, but he's got his training, but he was actually in the army.

And he was in the army,

in the and he had a plum job. It's like a civilian job.

And

it's a bit like Q in James Bond

where the secret services or whoever it was

would put a request in, and his lot would make it.

So, you know, like, I don't know, exploding cow or anything like that.

You name it, you would make it.

And,

I don't know how he went from a practical job like that to a

theoretical one in engineering, but still that's, you know, structural engineering. Anyway, that's another story.

And he said that,

in the late sixties, or I think it's about 1967,

there was a thing called a, Glastonbury

UFO flap

on, where people were seeing strange things

in the sky and different Mhmm. Things. And he got a request through

to get the best radio controlled aircraft that money can buy

and suit them up. So he went to Beatty's in London, because I think he I think he worked down in Westcountry somewhere.

And he went in there, and he said an open checkbook sort of, I want the best, the very best, because Beatty's was the place for model aircraft and models and things like that.

And he got the the best that they could get. And what I was told to do was paint luminous

yellow stripes on the wings and have luminous banners

at the back of the, you know, plane.

Strange. So they

they didn't made them, sent them off,

and the people that used them smashed them up. So that's to repair them. And they decided to get his lot in to fly them because they were the only people that knew how to fly. And his job was to go with with his mates on the top of this,

hill in Glastonbury.

And about 2 o'clock in the morning, fly these aircraft low over the town.

And what they would do is seeing what the reports were from the people. It was it was actually like a kind of psyops,

to get data from how people react to these strange things. And that's why in the press, you've got loads and loads of stuff about people seeing you at phones.

Right. It's like, they blink gliders over the top of glass to break. So I was a little sorry that he told me. Yeah. So there we go.

So that was boring, wasn't it? No. It was quite good. It's alright. I like and it don't it was okay. It's good. I like stories about engineers and UFOs and Glastonbury. It's one of my favorite topics. It's cool. Warren's been Warren, in in the chat's been on a he's been writing a play. He says,

the I think this has to do with when we're talking about the English or the American view of the English. You're right. The the English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Syria and have therefore raised their security level from miffed to peeved.

Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to irritated

or even a bit cross. The English have not been a bit cross since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. It's true. I'm yeah. Cross is a very serious thing. If you're a bit cross, it's it's quite a strong thing. Well, a bit cross.

The last he says,

terrorists have been recategorized from tiresome to a bloody nuisance.

The last time the British issued a bloody nuisance warning level was in 1588

when threatened by the Spanish Armada or as Dennis Wise would inform us, the Spanish Armada does,

the multiple Armadas.

And somebody just written in the YouTube chat because I was having a look, mentioned Dennis Wise's

video, the greatest story never told. Of course, there's 3. There's, the free masonic victory of World War 2 and, the other one whose name just ran right out of my head.

But, Dennis is gonna be on here, Eric. I'm letting you know in 2 weeks' time. I think in 2 weeks' time. So send a message, and I'm gonna put him in touch for what you're doing. So he'll be here on February 13th. We've got Mon Monica Schafer and Dennis will be on here on Thursday.

I didn't speak to him, but he's doing okay health wise, and he's quite on. I've got to remind him on the day because he says I can't be bothered figuring it all out right now and I don't blame him. So there we go. And Sally's still banging on about farting here. It's all gone pear shaped, and Sally, I don't know what's going on. Well, it's fine. That's Yeah. Yeah. And actually, I've got I I it's not that I'm I just think it's

it's a strange thing. My father found it the funniest thing ever,

ever.

It was the funny

anybody

anybody that made that sound, my dad could just would fall about in pieces. I have no idea why. He just

like that. He would just he would laugh and he he almost tears running down his face every time he heard it. It's always inappropriate. It's like, you know, more TV, that kind of thing.

Vicar, that kind of thing. It's I think it's because of the complete loss of dignity in a very in in a split second. It's that that's it's all about. It's very, very funny. The other day, though, whilst we're still on farting, whilst we're talking about it,

I,

I had some tomato and lentil soup, which, were one of these high high quality soups. Right? I like lentils,

and I use it as a sauce sometimes when I'm putting I I add beef and chicken to them as well because they're really they're different. You know? I just get fed up with basic stuff, so I just did that.

And I had all these meatballs and stuff, and I cooked for my sons. And one of them had he said, oh, this tastes fantastic. It's great. I said, yeah. And it did.

Then tonight I asked it because we I made plenty. There was some leftover tonight. He said, oh, no. I said, well, he said, I can't stop farting. I said, well, what's wrong with that? He said, I don't I don't like it. So I had to heat I had to eat them all. I didn't really I love lentils, but I've never noticed that effect before. But, yes, there definitely was an after effects, of course. And,

it's all part of it. Yeah. Brussel sprouts. Yeah. Absolutely. Brussel sprouts. I might be I might be contacted by NASA soon for rocket fuel because,

the secret with lentils is to soak them overnight, you know that, before you cook them. And that I'll find that works.

But regarding flatulence,

what I did once, and this is when my father was alive. He was actually in a wheelchair

the last days of his life.

I I I was going around the local supermarket

and, for a laugh because he had a great sense of humor.

I was at the, where the vegetables and that are, and I picked hold of an orange and smelled it when, And I'd actually

farted.

And I said, poor. I said, that smells disgusting. I think it's off. And the girl next to me said, oh, yeah.

This fruit does smell horrible, doesn't it?

What's that? Was shaking with laughter.

That's it very seriously. Oh, yes. Poor. Oh, it smells like rotten eggs, does it? Oh, no.

Well yeah.

But,

now I think that,

it is it's it is a loss of dignity, isn't it? It's it's a sort of,

what it is, it's just a It is. It's it's an instant it's funny because it's it's a complete loss of dignity and control,

as is the idea of a man's trou a man in public without his trousers. It's just funny. It just has an idea. It's very funny. It's just complete loss of dignity. You can't no one can take you seriously at all when your trousers are off. Yeah. It's all about the trousers. Why I talk about technical trousers, you are humbled

in the face of a of whatever it is that's going on. It's

and Sally writes here as well. She says,

the funny thing is, now now I am on a uber healthy diet. I can't stop farting. It's almost like a novelty to me. I never used to fart in my previous life. I will stop talking about it now. Sorry, Paul. Don't be sorry. We can't stop talking about it. Oh, ah. Ah. It's it's the veggies that does it. It's the veggies what goes on. The mystery.

That solves the mystery, you see? Why? When she because I sometimes see aunt Sally

at a a shop, a a health food shop, if you see.

Because I know the owner in there. He's a good doctor, natural doctor. So that's where that smell came from.

We thought his tablets had gone off. No. I need I'll vote that up. I'm only joking. Alright. I'll vote it up. Sorry.

It's,

oh, no. It's a funny world. What what does she consider health food? That's what I wonder.

Lentil. Well, that would be veggies, wouldn't it? Lentils are classed as a health food, aren't they? Aren't they classed as a health food? Veggies, actually, believe it or not, brown rice and things like that do more harm than good.

I believe they can,

upset the,

inside

they can cause leaky gut syndrome because, you know, the best way of eating rice,

is white,

white rice. Don't use brown rice. It's terrible stuff. It really is.

Yes. It it can actually scar the inside of your intestine

and cause leaky gut. Yeah. Really?

Well, thinking about curing things and all that, do you remember

Fife Robertson,

Eric Yes? On British I love that guy. You do too. Absolutely.

Oh, lovely hypnotic voice. He had that trilby on and that goatee beard. Hello. I can't do it well. Somebody do a Fife Robertson thing, but it's really good. Anyway, somebody sent in onto the Telegram group. I don't know whether they'll play that. How long is this? Four minutes. We might do it. Old cures for flu.

Right? It's Fife Robertson in England in the fifties. I think it's late fifties on a BBC

TV talking to people about what they did to cure flu. Listen to this. It's great. It's just fun hearing these voice, and the way they do this is how we need to be like this. This is grand. Here we go. Jake and

a lemon bowl and whiskey. Well, I start the day with a good hot breakfast. Barry, jig some bacon,

and a drop of whiskey and tea. You can defy the virus there. Oh, very good. What about you, madam? I believe in a good breakfast, but I also believe if you have got the flu, once you're inside out with, continually with boiled water about 4, 5, half pint glasses a day, boiled water. Well, my remedy, Lou, is to,

get a small Spanish onion, chop it up finely,

and, put some brown sugar over it and a little vinegar.

And then when it's into a syrup, take a spoonful before it gets fed.

It's a very good remedy.

Well, I'm a great believer in whiskey. I'm like the Scotchman. I believe in a drop of whiskey warm, and it it it sort of cures the germs.

I think so. I'm using my other side there.

What's your recipe? A jolly good hot rum punch and a jolly good sweat your stuff in bed till it's all over.

Right? Well, my mother recommends an old sweaty sock with salt around your throat, good pullover,

and a good hot water bottle and sweat it out. And then if you feel that you're not gonna spread germs around, then get out.

Well, I think it's quite a a simple element to deal with. Uh-huh. I take a jolly good dose of sauce and let nature do do the rest.

Well, the best way that we find and the only way,

is the use of elderflower wine. If you take a good, glassful tonight and, you go to bed and you sweat it out, you know, and you're alright in the day too. Well, there is a good cure in mustard

and lard, and you rub the 2 well together

and get a good blend in. And then after it's real really, I don't know how to do it, but my father does it. But does he eat it, or does he rub it into his chest? On your chest in the front and back.

Oh. And it is a Most of the blood. I see. How about you? Have you got a good cure? Mhmm. Good grease. You can rub that on your chest, you know, after you've been coughing the goose, and then keep the grease and, rub it on the chair. A large sheet of brown paper

and cut it

to go under the arms

Yes.

And do,

you warm it first

Mhmm. And get hot,

a a warm goose grease.

So as them and to spread mustard over the brown paper

first Yes.

Get warm goose grease, which, most people have got in a house.

You spread it over the mustard

on the paper

to avoid any burning of the skin.

I see.

And should inflammation be setting in as the doctor says it does sometimes,

you boil the boil elderflower

and give the patient a dose of the elderflower

water.

I see. But then do you go to bed with this on, the scrap paper? Yes. And the goose grease avoids it from burning.

Oh, don't you find it a bit messy?

Oh, well, you've got to spread that. You've got to put up with that, haven't you? Well, if I feel as if the flu is coming on me,

I take a nice big tumbler full of hot lemonade,

put in about 3 teaspoonfuls of rum,

2 aspirins,

get into bed, cover myself up well,

tie the stocking that I've been wearing

on my feet,

one of them around my throat

with a safety

pin, and stay in bed and sweat it out. And in the morning, change my pajamas and stay in the bed.

And then again, I do it again, and that's once in the afternoon,

once again at night, and I find in 3 days' time, I'm cured. What do you find is the best way to cure the flu? Well, just think that you haven't got it and to

better than that, boil onion. Yes.

And just leave it go cool. Warm just cool it for drinking and drink it up, and that's it. And just don't be about.

Just get out of it and work it off yourself.

That's the only thing that well, I've still got it now and I'm still about. You've got flu now, have you? Well, in that case, I won't keep you another minute. Thank you.

That was Alan Wicker at the end. So there were a couple of guys interview. Anyway, those that's if those guys have been around, COVID would never have happened. We all we'd have done is taking our socks. I love this thing about sweaty socks. That's amazing.

You ever use sweaty socks, Eric? I've never used a sweaty sock. But my uncle I take my uncle's advice, and that is if you at first signs of flu, you go to bed with a hot woman. You're exactly

right.

Is he getting slightly confused there? Isn't it a hot water? No. No. I get that. I get that. I like that. That's great. Is that what he used to say? He he

he he had several he said, oh, excuse me, I'm a bit bit exhausted. I've been slow moving or a hot woman all morning.

So that's a creative way to sweat it out. Right?

Yes. Yes. Yes. I like the lemonade.

What's the guy? Lemonade, whiskey, and aspirin. That was wacky.

That's great. Warren says they're all daft. Well, of course, that was makes them so charming. People love their voices. Me too. I love all that stuff. It's just absolutely fantastic.

Goose grease. Want to be very, very noble again. So, yeah, it's great. Yeah. But putting goose grease on brown pipe and then putting that on the on earth. Must have And you ever done that? My mom used to do that to me. Yeah. I know. It's horrible. But I want a lads. The smell of Vic. There's something about Oh, I love Vic. I used to just I used to I used oh, wow. I used to stick it on the end of my nose. I was like, get your nose out of that Vic. It makes you wonder if they use some sort of, like, mint mixed with goose grease.

And then Yeah. Yeah. Like, it could be where it came from.

Actually, if those people were around, Pfizer and all those, like, they'd be out of business.

Yeah. But did you know that there was a cure, not a cure, but a way of easing, colds, and the flu,

that was found in the early twenties.

And it was by Arm and Hammer, the people that do the toothpaste.

Yeah.

And what happens after the,

that's right. It was baking soda.

1 half

just a very stingy half a teaspoon in a beaker of water, warm water, every 2 hours on the first day that you have a cold,

every 4 hours on the second day, once in the morning and once at night on the third day, and it'll go really quick.

But don't do what a mate of mine did. He phoned me up. He said,

you should, what was it? Is it, half a dessert spoon?

Yeah.

Well, back in the Did you take take half the street out? Sorry.

Oh, that's okay. You cut out for a sec. Yeah. You just cut out briefly there Yeah. Eric.

Now what I was gonna say is, he he he had the,

should we say the doily carts

and, bit of ramen slang there. And I said, whatever you do, don't light a match. You take half a bloody straight out. I said, the way you'll get a break, you wean because

the side effect of bar cold nut soda is flatulence.

And,

it makes you We can't get away from flatulence this evening, can we? We can't get away from it. We can't escape it. It's the winds of change or something. It creates something that we need to do in your industry.

Yeah. But I'm a big fart around this area, you see. So Are you?

Well, they say that, back in the what was it? The Merck Manual, which was this big company you know, the company Merck, which is the large Yeah. The yeah. Yeah. M e r c k. Is that what it is? Yeah. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah.

They had this manual. I think it was in the late 1800,

and almost every other cure had turpentine in it.

Mhmm. Have you heard of using turpentine?

I have. Yeah. I've heard of turps. Yeah. Oh, turpentine.

I I learned this recently because I was I was researching how to do

lithography

printing.

And they use gum Arabic, which is a type of,

resin that comes from, the tree a tree, like, a a pine type tree.

Right. And it's in they were using Coca Cola

for this process instead of the gum Arabic because apparently, Coca Cola and all these other sodas

use gum Arabic

in order to separate or keep the sugars from settling

and crystallizing

in the in the in the drink.

And it's included in every every,

you know, Coca Coca Cola that you get. And it must have been part of the original recipe

that they used to,

to give people as a sort of cure. But

because

and what it makes me think of is turpentine because

because of the fact that it's

a a resinous pine tree type resin.

So they used

so to my mind, it they've they've used turpentine as a

medicine

and that the original Coca Cola recipe was

a medicinal type thing just like Pepsi or or Doctor Pepper

is another

type of

soft drink.

But,

the Coca Cola was originally called cocaine cola, wasn't it? Was that Yeah. Well, they they still use spent co coca leaves.

There's one importer in New Jersey that imports them,

and that's what they use as one of the main ingredients for the flavoring of Coca Cola.

Do you still drink it? I mean, I I haven't drunk it for years. Well, from time to time.

Yeah. I find it We've never ever had it in the house.

So my lads never drank it once.

Really? Just want no.

No. We don't have that rot in here. I did but, actually, that I lied. I think I mentioned some time ago. I bought one of those large enormous bottles, but I used it to clean the toilet. It was really good.

Yes. Yes. So I just left it in overnight and,

excellent stuff, really. Best toilet cleaner going. That's all it's fit for. And it's just worrying that it does that. It's worrying rust off your bay bumper. I I I wouldn't touch it. I personally That's not a euphemism, is it, Eric? Getting rust off your bumper. What's that? No.

What's

going

on?

But, but by the way, do you know that Peter Mandelson's been,

was it? Trump has approved that Peter Mandelson's gonna be

Brilliant.

Because we're talking about meat early because apparently, he likes mince, doesn't he? He's very He does. He does mince around a bit, doesn't he? He likes spinning around his mince. Oh. Oh, yeah. He's gonna be smoker.

Did you did you hear about that? Because someone's seen him, wandering around secretly with with a fag.

As as a that's a sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's right. For cigarettes, you see. There's nothing rude there. Wasn't his uncle Herbert Morrison or something?

His uncle was the editor of the,

Jewish,

Chronicle, I think.

Well, a relation of his, I think either his father or his uncle was very close with Harold Wilson

and was likely his handler. Right? And,

realistically,

he was likely I think, Mendelssohn was likely Blair's handler

and all this kind of stuff. He's

not

he's not,

oh, god.

Forget it.

You know? Well, I think that On the on the on the Byzantine law, he wouldn't even be allowed in politics. Let's put it that way. And that would be the correct decision.

His his uncle was Hubert Morrison, and his father

was the editor of the Jewish Chronicle.

Yep.

That's it. Yeah. Okay. They live next to the Swiftly moving on.

And you didn't get our old Wilson advice. That's the official line. So that I don't know why I would think maybe we should move on because it seems like this show has kinda gone to the

Gone to the wolves. There.

Have you gone, Paul? Out there.

Well, actually,

that didn't apparently, that didn't work.

Didn't No. No. Did you not is that a difference between American and English humor? Did we not get something that we were supposed to get? I'm feeling thick now.

I'm feeling a bit dense.

Oh, actually Is it the English heirs that put you off, Paul? It's our English heirs, isn't it?

And our hypocrisy.

We've got loads I've got loads of that.

But we've at least we've sent him, at least we've sent you,

out of goodwill, Peter Mandelson,

we didn't blame him one of them here, I don't think. So he got the You've got Peter.

You've got the lovely Peter. Everything's gonna go great now. Gonna do? What is this Lie. That's what he's gonna do. He's gonna talk out of 5 sides of his mouth. That's what he's gonna do because of what he always does, isn't it? Sorry. I don't have a clue of him. He talks out of his backside, doesn't he, I think? I think that's Wait. Who who is this? First off first of all Oh, you don't wanna know. Yeah. He's in the woods. Dude. It's it's my country.

Right? Oh, yeah. He's coming over to ruin it. Let's put it that way.

Wasn't he a pal

of, that,

oh, you know, the jet people?

Oh, that's right. He was. Yes. As picture his name and Ghislain Maxwell and the bloke who's apparently got killed then boy. But didn't really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. They're all it's all the same club, and we're not in it. Thanks the heavens. Thank the heavens that we're not in it. Yeah.

That's true. Thank thank goodness.

Yeah. We're not in it. Absolutely. We've been blessed, everyone. You've been blessed that you don't have to spend any time with cockroaches like that.

Oh, gosh. Yes. Anyway

okay.

So I do believe I solved the problem.

I do believe Yeah. Yeah. What problem? What was the problem?

Yes. I I think perhaps the show should move on because it seems to have pretty much gone to this.

Yes. You you got the mic? Where where where are you putting the mic for that there, Paul? He's on the he's on the John right now. Did I use the right word? Oh, Philip. Paul slaps off to the he slaps off to the toilet with his 800 foot microphone. Bus. How much is it? Unbelievable.

That's dedication for you, Paul. I'm impressed. That's a good sound effect. I like it. I I never know what I'm gonna be called on. It just it's it's lucky that that I'm so far away. Otherwise, I might

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberry.

They were they were just talking about

elderflower. That was a

they were. Elderflower is a cure for flu.

Uh-huh. It's a cure for the flu.

Yes. Yeah. Actually,

elderberry is is

big. It's big for that.

Oh. Cool. Use it. Have you used it before? I've never I've never had elderberry I wish I'd known all that before I got the Lurgy. You know? Wow. I would've used I was interested with a sock.

I have to say the sock's very interesting to me.

Because I do every now and again, I have noticed that some of my socks

are not as fragrant and as fresh as they ought to be. Let me I'm putting that tactfully.

They will clear the sinuses now, won't they?

What what was that with the salt? Can you remind me? I must have missed that. What what what what did you put on the Yeah. One guy said yeah. Well, he wasn't either guy that said he he get lemonade

and put whiskey in it or rum and aspirin,

and then he took a sock off. He drinks it. Gets in the bed, takes takes his sock off and wraps it round his neck and ties it with a with a safety pin. It was a bit about the safety pin. It was really precise. Then you get a safety pin to clasp the sweaty sock around your throat. I'm going,

wow. I wanna try that. It just sounds so mad. It'll probably work. Probably work, you know.

It'll work. Why wouldn't it work?

I I think there's a common theme there.

Well, yeah, have you ever seen those? Resting for days.

Yeah. There's cartoons. You must have seen, these are English ones, but remember you got me in the States. I think the car it's really old. Like, 70 a guy I think it's Gilray.

And he's got all these drawings of people that had had toothache,

and they've all got bandages, of course, wrapped around their head, you know, with a big knot on the top of their head and hold it. Yeah. And they they're the most miserable looking individuals in cartoons ever. You just look at it and you go, oh, they just look in agony. They absolutely look in agony. So it makes me think about these. I don't know. You cope with 2 coking in the past. Take your head off, really. It's the only way to deal with it, I would have thought. Do you remember the BAMFOLD cards, though? Remember BAMFOLD? That were the ones, weren't they? They were the source of BAMFOLD? What Yeah. Cards. What were they? Yeah. That they're lost. When you went to the seaside,

they did what they called Bamford cards,

and it's it's, saucy postcards with dirty jokes on them.

I've said to Eric to I've said Eric to many people that I meet who ask me about you. Have you ever met him? I go, no.

Chuck. No. I haven't met him. Do I need to do I I I if there's if I have to describe you, I say he's the human equivalent

of a Bamforth seaside seaside card. I say he's the human equivalent of a saucy British seaside postcard. Imagine that in human form. That's Eric von Essex for you. I've I've never heard of that. I'm glad you like that. I heard It's a compliment, by the way. I have heard of of,

adult jokes printed on toilet tissue,

which basically is the epitome of potty humor.

And

Yeah. They do that. Yeah. Yeah. I've never got time. Anyway, so we we seem to be getting back to the toilet an awful lot in this show after

don't we? We can't get away from it now. Aunt Sally started it all by revealing everything about her diet and what's going on and how she provokes people in lifts. There's also she put another comment about yoga lessons. And somebody wrote this and said, aunt Sally, your reputation,

you know, rent asunder. I don't think so. We all love you lots. It's great. It's great to be so forthcoming about things like that.

It really is. Whenever my whenever my wife

was taken in that mess, she'd say, it's okay. Smells of roses all the time. She said it's so cheerily. I don't know if he did. I'd never bothered to find out, and I didn't wanna bother to find out. It was not really my job, is it? You've got to be sort of you're gonna be decent about this as the husband. I'm I'm I'm I'm believing, darling. Of course. I'm just standing down here at the other end of the garden, if that's alright.

So, yeah, things like that. Yeah. But it is funny, though. It's relentlessly funny. The the aftermath

Apparently

sorry. Carry on.

Thank you, Eric.

The aftermath of, an elevator ride after a a breakfast rich in raw vegetables,

that's almost as much fun as getting into a crowded elevator

and right in the middle or right in between floors, recoil away from somebody suddenly, oh, bad touch. Bad touch.

Apparently,

bulldogs are notorious

for farting because of their

the child's had there's a famous gag. I think it's Kenny Everett did it, Where everybody's sitting around the mill table

sniffing, and they were looking at Kenny Everett. He goes,

Rover,

stop that. Get out. And he opens the door, and the dog walks in.

We're stuck on this. We're stuck in it. We're stuck in it before, Luke. We're we're done for. Thank crikey. The show is coming towards an end.

Well, okay. 1 okay. One more one more potty humor,

that kinda takes us away from

the same thing.

It kinda takes us away from the direction that we've gone is,

I was,

selling a truck,

and the guy that was looking at buying it was underneath it. And then all of a sudden, my dog that was

running around, you know, is just,

exploring here and there. All of a sudden, he lets out a howl, and he starts running down the road with his with his hind legs

as far apart as he possibly can.

And I just said, Merlin,

how many times have I told you not to pee on the electric fence? I swear to God, the guy that was underneath my truck was gonna have a hernia.

We had to drag him out from under there. He was laughing so hard. It was funny. Yeah. It was funny.

At

at school,

as I grew up,

well disciplined by my parents, we weren't allowed to say the word fart in the house.

And all the way?

I was

severely rebuked for that when I was about 8 or 9, and I never said it. And, I think this was common to everybody in my generation because we were all brought up proper and British, you see, as that's actually not true, but some of us were. Anyway, at school,

it wasn't no one said the word fart. We we reversed the word and everybody said Taft.

And my dad had never heard this word before because people go, who's Taft? Right? And because of those accusatory stares and someone's gonna throw an exercise book at your head because you've just disrupted them in their exam paper or something

pointless like that. My dad had never heard it. We used it. I'm I think me and my brother just said it once at the table. He said, what's that?

And we think and he he thought about it. And he said

he said, oh, it's the word backwards. Of course, it's not. Otherwise, it would be trapped. Right? But he couldn't get it out of his, and he just found this the funniest thing. We made his day. Just even words to describe it were a source of almost infinite humour to him. Who's Taft? So he'd never heard of it before. They're great. And Guft came along. Anyway, you know, maybe if we plumb the depths now, we don't have to plumb them ever again. I mean, we've gone from the sublime almost or the refined to the extremely low grade here on this show, but then we are human after all. But the first So,

there was a a chap, I don't know if I should mention this or not, where I used to work. You're about to anyway, so we're bracing ourselves. Yeah. I I don't know what he had for his dart, but when he went in the toilets,

I think flies would end up dead. I mean, the stage was so bad. I'm

sorry. I

was in there one day washing my head. The problem is, you know, it's about half a dozen traps, you know, where you go in and they go out they go to the cars.

And if you're in there,

this bastard will run out without washing his hands, and people think it's you that made the horrible smell. Well, I was in there one day, washing my hands. And this bastard went in there, dropped his guts, and then left.

And then walked to blow. It was called Bubble. The reason he's called Bubble is because he was Greek. We call it Bubble and Sweet Greek, but he was born in London. So he had a right old cockney accent. She, god, blobby. What? It's a bit of ink. What a stink. I said,

the smell of home cookie just like my mother used to make. He

collapsed on the floor. He just bent up or he could could get over. I didn't use that funny, but

Remember when we used to talk about intelligent things on this show? Those were the days.

Do you remember that, lads? That was great, wasn't it? I remember discussing things that had a point. It was great.

Yep.

Well, that sort of human get get me all night going on about that.

Really? I've not noticed actually, Eric. It's a bit of a surprise to me.

Yeah. I've never noticed. I'm glad you pointed that out. That's really good.

A fart joke. She'd have

no for it.

Yeah. But I think that'll be more Anyway,

Moving swiftly on.

Well, moving swiftly really to the closeout of the show. It's it's absolutely flown by tonight. I often when I'm sort of getting ready I don't know if you have this, Eric. I sort of think, oh, what we're gonna talk about? And then I go, no. Hang on. It's that's not gonna be a problem really. In fact,

just like last week, I have got here clips that I'd lined up for the show.

This is the thing. There's an absolute glut of really great stuff to listen to and sort of, you know, you can spark you off for another 15 minutes. I've got about I've got 15 here. We've used about 6.

It's just amazing, really. I need to do another show during the week.

You know, really need to do another show during the week. Anyway, any closing comments? I've got a song lined up,

to play us out as as we do.

Any any last words about this week? I'll just I'll just wrap up by saying, we did talk about the holocaust quite a bit tonight, and I'm glad that we did. And I thought we talked about it in a reasonably

civil way as best we could, and handled it quite well. In 2 weeks' time here, although there's another show next week, but February 13th,

Monica Schafer will be here. That's a definite. Dennis

will be with me on a show. It may be that one or it may be one even with Eric. I don't know. We're just gonna arrange a few things. I'd like to get him on because 3 hours is full time. So that might be handing over quite a bit of mic time to Monica and Dennis in a couple of weeks' time, which I think would be appropriate. I want to do that anyway.

You know? So okay. And I find it while her site's gone down on BitShoot. I think what's that? Okay. Yeah. She's fine. She does a show on RBN. She she just interviewed, as I said, Germa Rudolph for about 10 days or so ago because of his encyclopedia.

He's a real warrior out there. He's really been through it and, very serious stuff.

Common forming very much to that description of the Germans are relentless

attention to detail, which we know they have,

which is wonderful. We admire that kind of stuff. I thought some of the other criticisms are no longer hold true. Even if they ever were true, I think it's just those British ladies being a bit snotty, highfalutin,

and hypocritical,

because we have heirs, you see, and we must keep up our airs, Eric. We've got to keep up the Oh, yeah. Airs and all that kind of stuff. You wait till I read the one on the Scots. The Scots is very funny.

It's good. It's not good for the English, but it's well, it's not. It's not. So we'll do that next week. When we do the Scots and the Irish next week, it's a cracking little read.

I'd like to thank you all anyway for being any final words, gents? Patrick, Paul, anything you'd like to sign off with?

I have a good night.

Real quick. With

respect to, Trump's executive order and anti Semitism,

the constitution of the United States is a charter of negative liberties. It tells the government to leave the people alone.

My right to speech comes from my creator.

It cannot be given or legislated away.

Mhmm. Enough said.

Great. Great point to end on. A serious one. Yes. And,

no. It's absolutely spot on. This thing about

is this sort of inbuilt thing that we've got to some degree of there's a kind of subservience quality to what we do.

We must listen to these people. They know what they're talking about. I don't think people here listening to this on Rumble are like that. We're not like that. We're not there to do that. We're there to observe them and but we have to obviously look at the positive paths that we have to take so that we don't have to spend any more time with them. Eric, you put something up cracking,

earlier today

about was it Poland? About,

was it Poland or East Germany after communism had dropped for a couple of they didn't have any government, and it absolutely flourished

just as we would if we can get rid of this parasitic or political elite, which works for the money power and pretends that they're doing as good. They're not that we don't need them. And, that's the that's the penny we've got to get to drop with people. We do not need them. They're totally surplus to requirements. And I tell you, I I had to down tonight, I wanted to talk see, I'm kicking off now for another 5 hours here. The,

deep sneak, I call it. Deep seek.

This new AI thing is, it's really fascinating what has happened with that because it's undermined

a lot of things almost overnight.

It's

hilarious. It's really, really funny. If you're not familiar with him, I guess many people are a Chai bot called DeepSeek.

That's its name. It's number 1 on the app charts, I think, on iPhone and Android. It's free.

It's better than anything else according to what we're being told at the moment. Really good. It was developed a fraction of the cost that they've spent developing chat GPT and these other things, and it's open source.

And so the share price of NVIDIA that make the chips for these things

dropped by 45,000,000,000.

They lost 45,000,000,000

off their market value. It dropped by 15%,

which is hilarious.

Microsoft was spending 3,300,000,000

on a new data centers to develop this stuff. They've immediately stopped.

The power is shifting. Whatever is a nebulous thing is power wherever it lies, but it's the ability to get things done. And if you can get things done in that way, I'm mentioning it simply because I don't use AI. I'm kind of, you know, I'm like a neo Luddite. I love the Internet, but I wanna do it all myself. I'm not really interested.

Although somebody sent me a wonderful exchange they'd had with Chat GPT about scripture. I'll send it to you, Patrick. You'd be really interested. Maybe we can read a bit of it in the show next week. Fascinating stuff.

You know, I I always know it's a machine, but it's really interesting how it accepts questions and kicks back with certain other things. It's fascinating.

But if if this is the case that we're gonna have

I take this with a pinch of salt, supercomputers even more super that we've all got them in little clusters, what's what I think is likely to happen

is the return of like tribalism and clans because you'll be able to operate wholly independent

from much larger powers. This is gonna take several years to trickle through, but there's something shifting in the power and it's almost as if they're very desperate. Like, when when we were talking about Trump last week,

he's giving out the right they've given him some great positive lines to say which we want to hear. That's my take on it. He's also the next day then doling out the dog shit.

He's also been told to say that. So you've got this intentional

conflict creating in part cognitive dissonance, I guess, to use that grandiose phrase in the audience that's hearing it. A kind of demoralization,

these idiot people that he's employed like Larry Ellison or brought into the space. These got goofy guys who know nothing about anything.

I I heard Robert Malone who's been a high critic of the COVID thing just ripping Larry Ellison to peace, so he knows nothing about what he's talking about. You can't deal with diseases like this, and it's mad. I just think the whole high-tech approach is useless because all you need to cure these things is a sweaty sock wrapped around your neck with a safety pin. Right?

Remember that. That's all you need. You don't need anything else than that, some whiskey or rum, whatever your favorite, and it's gonna cure everything. Those people knew what they were talking about. Right? We need to get back to that stuff.

So we'll do a thing on deep sea, maybe more fully next week, but I just thought I'd drop that in because

there's some really good communications going on about that. I find it very funny that just like somebody throws a switch and it just opens so much overnight. That's the kind of world we're living in,

which is amazing, a bit scary, but,

there we go.

Okay. Fantastic. Thank you, Patrick. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Eric, for a splendid show. I've really enjoyed myself tonight. It's been a we we've we've been serious and we've been rather farty as well at the same time. Although not as farty as aunt Sally who wins tonight's

big fart award for the show. So that's fantastic. Thanks, aunt Sally for all that. Gonna play you out, played this before.

They Own the Media by Van Morrison because it's appropriate. Here we are trying to create our own media and we're doing the best job that we can. We're part of that movement, if there is one. We're part of this process, so that's great. We'll be back again next week with lots of fun.

Not so many jokes about toilets, but there's bound to be some. I can't keep them all out of the mix. It's just not possible. So Eric, Paul, and Patrick, thanks very much. Thanks everyone in Rumble. Here's the song. We'll see you next week.

They tell us that

ignorance is bliss.

I guess for those that control

the media it is.

They are the media they control.

The stories we are told.

If you ever try to go against them,

you

will be ignored because they control.

They control.

They control the narrative.

They perpetuate

the myth.

Keep on telling you lies till you ignorance is bliss.

Believe it all, and you'll never get

never get wise

to the truth because they control

everything

you do

everything you do

Everything you do.

Never get

wise. Wise

to their lives.

Thanks, everyone. See you all next week. Bye for now.

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