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In this episode of the Global Voice Radio Network, the host reflects on a rather un-Christmassy Christmas due to an unexpected illness that struck him and several others. Despite the setback, the host shares humorous anecdotes about the holiday season, including a lively office gathering and the peculiarities of Boxing Day traditions. The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as the host and guests reminisce about the music and cultural icons of the past, including Perry Como and traditional English music.
The discussion shifts to more serious topics, including the controversial views of historian Niall Ferguson on race and the historical influence of the Rothschild family. The host critiques Ferguson's perspectives and highlights the importance of understanding historical financial manipulations. The episode also touches on the role of consumer pressure groups and the impact of modern architecture on cultural heritage.
Throughout the episode, the host maintains a light-hearted tone, interspersing the conversation with music and humorous reflections on the quirks of British culture, from the love of sprouts to the peculiarities of Christmas TV programming.
In this episode of the Global Voice Radio Network, the host reflects on a rather un-Christmassy Christmas due to an unexpected illness that struck him and several others. Despite the setback, the host shares humorous anecdotes about the holiday season, including a lively office gathering and the peculiarities of Boxing Day traditions. The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as the host and guests reminisce about the music and cultural icons of the past, including Perry Como and traditional English music.
The discussion shifts to more serious topics, including the controversial views of historian Niall Ferguson on race and the historical influence of the Rothschild family. The host critiques Ferguson's perspectives and highlights the importance of understanding historical financial manipulations. The episode also touches on the role of consumer pressure groups and the impact of modern architecture on cultural heritage.
Throughout the episode, the host maintains a light-hearted tone, interspersing the conversation with music and humorous reflections on the quirks of British culture, from the love of sprouts to the peculiarities of Christmas TV programming.
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[00:02:59] Unknown:
Yo ho ho and all that kind of stuff. Merry Christmas to everyone. It is Thursday, 26th December 2024, The last show of the year is also Boxing Day. More on that in a moment. Oh, I've been having a fun week. Bloody hell. Welcome to all the WBN listeners in, the USA and around the world. Just gone 3 PM US EST, 8 PM here in the UK. Well, I hope you've all had a cracking week since last Thursday. I hope Santa brought you everything that you wanted, whatever that might be. I hope I would imagine most of you had a more fun time than I've had. I should have some violin tracks now to play, you know, that sort of mournful stuff. But I had the I had the honor of having probably the least Christmassy Christmas day of my entire life this year.
It wasn't by planning. It just sort of all fell apart, because I became very, very unwell, and, which was a bit of a surprise, actually. We did the show last Thursday. I was fighting fit, ready to go. Everything was marvelous. Friday too was good. I don't know if I mentioned last week I was, invited along to the annual office do. It's not really an office do. I've I'm, of course, not part of any office, setup, but I always call it that. Whenever your friends invite you out for an end of year Christmas lunch, I always call it my office do. And, got together, at the local pub that I've mentioned a few times before here in jolly old West Sussex, and there were about 24 people there. That's quite quite a chunky number, isn't it? Cracking people. Didn't get chances to speak to them all, unfortunately. It was, so much food to eat and abuse to hurl up one another. It was just impossible to get round to everybody and insult everyone.
But it a a good night was had by all, I think. Certainly, that night was, and, that was great. And Saturday was pretty good too. And I I I, I went to bed on Saturday night, as you do. And then I woke up Sunday morning, not alive, basically, as if I'd been hit by a freight train. Very odd. No sort of sign of this, and it's turned out as well. And some of them will be listening right now, so I'm playing my violin for you 2, guys and gals, that about half a dozen, maybe more than that, have been laid low by the same thing, whatever this thing is. Anyway, I've never been so weedy in my entire life.
Very, very odd experience, not being able to stand up. Yes. I kid you not. Absolutely ridiculous. And I suppose this is what flu is, I think. Not that I've got a technical manual on the whole thing, but I think it might be. And, if it is, if what's been happening for me for the last week is flu, then at least I know I've never had flu ever in my life, ever. Because if this is flu, I've never had anything quite like this, quite remarkable. And aching joints, the lot. And, you know, I used to laugh at people and say, I can't even get out of bed. I got bloody get out of bed. Come on. It's not that difficult. But, it turned out it's absolutely impossible when you've got no energy. And, that's really what I found out. It's, not I'm I'm being quite light about it right now. And in fact, all the way up until 5 minutes to go, this was a bit touch and go this show. No. That's not true. I actually made my mind that we would do it anyway, round about midday today. I feel good enough. You might hear me hit the mute button a lot if I get a coughing fit, because that doesn't make for too much interesting radio, does it? I don't think it does.
But, to everybody who's been struck by the lurgy, my, heart goes out to you. So that was my Christmas day. My Christmas day was me eating 2 potatoes. I'm really gonna I ate 2 potatoes and one slice of turkey. Couldn't taste any of it. It was like putting metal in my mouth. Just drank a lot of fluid, not booze. And, that's it, really. Very exciting. Didn't get too depressed, actually. I just had a lot of time to sit around and look at movies. I can't remember what I watched. Obviously, so vacant about things. But, anyway, I appear to be past the worst of it all right now, and that's the best thing, we can say.
Past all that silliness and nonsense, I hope you didn't have anything quite so tedious and draining and boring as that. I've been whining like a good in about it, I suppose. My sons just look at me and say, dad, drink more water. So I've been drinking a lot. And me and the toilet have become, well, very close friends over the last few days as I visit it every sort of 45 minutes. So, anyway, more information than you all wanted. I hope you had a cracker. I have, of course, with me in the studio, other people also who do who don't have anything to do on Boxing Day evening. And, if you're, in the US, if you're listening to you, WBN by the US feed and you're of our US audience, you might not know what Boxing Day is.
This is the day, obviously, after Christmas Day. And in England, for a long time, it's always been known as Boxing Day. Actually, when I say a long time, I don't know how long. I'm assuming no. I don't know what to assume. But, what does it mean? Now when I was young, and everybody can step in what they think it might means, but when I was very young, like 5 6, I thought it meant that on the TV the next day or something, there were gonna be a lot of boxing matches, lots of fighting. But because when you think about it, it's not really in keeping with the spirit of the times, is it? Yeah. We're gonna have Christmas days, peace and goodwill to old men, but then the next day, men are gonna start fighting in professional bouts. It it of course, it's nothing to do with that, but I wasn't the only child to make that error in thinking it was that.
It's actually the day, although I stand to be corrected if anybody's got a better take on this, is that a day on which all your presents that you'd receive, you know, all those presents that you've just received, all those socks, lads. Right? All those nylons, ladies. I'm just being old fashioned intentionally. You put them back in their boxes. It's an English tradition so the children are not spoilt. You can't have them getting all hysterically carried away playing with their toys and driving all the older people mad for the whole week. So the idea was that you've got to play with the toys for a day, then they're immediately back in the box because the day after, you're back at school and learning things. Anyway, let me, introduce you to the usual crew. If you're regulars in here, you'll be aware, of them anyway. But, Patrick, our man in Wisconsin, merry Christmas to you, Patrick, on this fine boxing day. And how are you doing?
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Yeah. Merry Christmas. I'm doing quite well. Yeah. And it's also, Saint Stephen's Day today.
[00:10:56] Unknown:
The first The feast of Saint Stephen's. Is that right? Yep. Feast of Stephen. And then what carol's he in? Where the the mayor king of endless
[00:11:06] Unknown:
That's it. Out on the feast of Stephen.
[00:11:10] Unknown:
That's it. And we were talking about this last week, weren't we? Because I said I played good king. No. I played old king Cole. I didn't play king Wenceslas. I'm getting very I've played so many monarchs in my time, Patrick. Oh, well, that's great. No. That's that's really good. And you've had you've had a pretty good family sort of Christmas day yesterday, didn't you, and things like that?
[00:11:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Actually, today, we're having our family over. The house here is full, and my mom and everybody wish everyone a happy happy and, blessed Christmas, a merry Christmas.
[00:11:42] Unknown:
Well, everybody here at Pauling's live we wishes the Chanels and their family gathering a merry Christmas too. So send that back into them. Hope you're having a cracking day. I'm quite jealous in a way. Us was so my Christmas day was so un Christmassy. My oldest son, I said, you don't wanna be here on Christmas day. He said, no. I don't. So he went off to meet up with other people, and he did the right thing. I was fine with it. I just thought I'd infect everybody with what I'd got otherwise. But, that was that was that was that. Let's hop back over to this side of the pond. Eric,
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good evening, Eric. How are you? Welcome to the show. And Merry Christmas for that video yet, all the all the, listeners. And, well, I like the song was a good kick went a slash one night when the win was cure cruel. That's what we used to sing at school anyway. But, yes, Boxing Day happens to be my sister's birthday and my much older sister. When we were younger, we used to have presents on Boxing Day, and she was really upset because, she said, oh, some people sent a Christmas and birthday presents all combined, and she got upset about that. So, yeah, it was weird. We so we had our own presents on Boxing Day, which was my sister's birthday, which I suppose So she felt a little robbed.
[00:13:00] Unknown:
Is that it's bad timing, isn't it? The season of goodwill and that you're a bit cross that you're not getting as much as you think you ought to get. It's not
[00:13:08] Unknown:
Well, when I was born, the first word she said when they shouted down the stairs, it's a boy, was, oh, no. And she detested me from that day on because she was always upset that I had a birthday in May, so I didn't get Christmas and birthday combined. And she hers was on boxing day. So
[00:13:28] Unknown:
Even at the sweet and beautiful innocent start of life, there's already a grudge building. Isn't it sad? That's right. Yes. Yes. I mind you, I haven't seen my sister for,
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what is it, 15 years, so I don't know whether she's still around or not. So that's life. We we never got on.
[00:13:45] Unknown:
That's it for me. I I can I yeah? 15 years is okay. Okay. Well, maybe you could look her up. Send her a Boxing Day present or something. I don't know. No. Thank you. I don't really want a headache. Thank you. It wasn't really advice. I was just making polite, pointless, vacuous chitchat there to fill in the gap, lady. Pressured.
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Thank you.
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And, hopping back over to the other side of the water, Paul. Yes. Welcome to the show. Yes, Paul. How are you? Did you did you have a smashing day yesterday, and do you have too much stuffing?
[00:14:21] Unknown:
Actually, I don't even remember what I had to eat yesterday. I think it was probably peanut butter on a fork, maybe something that had to do with egg noodles and whatever I could throw in the pot. Me and the cat, we had a a really quiet Christmas day. Just, high quality
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photos. It's quite depressing to hear that. It's very uncanny. I'm sorry. But, actually,
[00:14:45] Unknown:
you know, getting back a little bit to what you opened the show with was, I'm actually getting reports of, like, little little clusters of illness, not unlike, what you were experiencing. And I would be interested in knowing if there were, like, 5 or 6 people that were at that gathering that came down with the same symptoms you did, if there were any commonalities between, like, transit directions or or the the route being taken, from their home to the meeting? Any events
[00:15:20] Unknown:
or events like that? It could have been, Paul. It could have been the salmon moose, except there wasn't any salmon moose, but salmon moose is prone to providing food poisoning at times. But I don't know. I mean, my brother who who wasn't there, he's 200 miles up the road. He's got he called me up 2 days ago to wish me and as he starts talking, he sounds like I sound now. I said, what's up with you? He said, I've got this blah blah blah blah. I said, no. I've got it. I was gonna tell you first. He's got exactly the same thing. He said, I've never felt so it's like being hit by a truck. I know these are all euphemisms for things, aren't they? But it does feel like that. I've just been. My dad used to have this thing. He said, I've got as much strength as a lamb, and I you could just push me over. It was I started laughing. I find it quite funny when I'm sort of so pathetic. And then, you know, when you see, old elderly folk with a walking stick?
Yeah. I realized that I needed I actually would have needed one if I wanted to go out walking. There's no way I could have trusted myself to stay up on my pins.
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It was, quite a shock, actually. Didn't like it. I yeah. Very odd. A report from a friend of mine that, she had attended a 4 day event. It's it was Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and, Trump was expected to speak on Sunday. And there was a line, of course, getting into the place, so she, wound up outside in 32, 34 degree weather. She lives in Arizona, so, of course, she's not used to that. But, Yeah. A bunch of people a bunch of people, not even a handful of people came down with the same symptoms, very similar to the ones that you expressed.
And, when she went to get checked out, her blood work showed antibodies for, drum roll, please, bird flu and hepatitis d. And Yay. She hasn't been around anybody. She hasn't she hasn't had any recent inoculations. She hasn't, really done anything other than attend that 4 day event. And she has basically been sleeping 20 out of 24 hours ever since, and that was last week. Oh. So,
[00:17:42] Unknown:
you're not alone. Yeah. You know things you know life's not around. No. I know. Paul, there's there's agreement in the chat right now. Exo's writing that he says, you sound like a slightly more spike generated nasty bug victim than me. It's been effing nasty. Yeah. It has. It's been a surprise to me. And I don't mind getting ill. I actually quite like a cold. I know it sounds a bit weird. I don't actually mind them at all. They only last a few days. I could move around. But, with this one, this is of a completely different, scale.
Really is. Anyway, my immune system's gonna lick it. That's what I say. Oh, it's a bit of a blow. You and I've you know when you get you know when you get this coming on? I had to go and look this up. I'm assuming everybody gets something similar to this. When I know I'm gonna get in a bad way or I've got something like that, all my major muscle groups in my legs begin to ache like mad. It just gets so achy. And I thought, what is that? Well, it turns out that's a good sign, apparently. And what that is is because you've got a big store of power there or whatever, that's a sign that your body is producing a surplus of white blood cells, to boost your immune system, to fight off what it knows is coming down the pipe for you for the next 2 or 3 days.
So it's a sign that you've got something, your body's recognized it, and it's prepping you, and the prep tires you out because it's gonna divert energy elsewhere because, oh, you don't need to walk for a bit because we gotta be we gotta deal with this. It's amazing, the body, isn't it, really? We're just so stupid interpreting things wrong. But it's interesting, Ekso, that you've had a similar sort of thing. I had experienced Yeah. So I I think there is something going around.
[00:19:24] Unknown:
No. I had experience with the same thing 3 years ago. And, like, I I spoke a little bit at the beginning of the program. It almost killed me twice. I was down with it for, like, 3 months. And, what I got from that, I got long standing issues. I mean, edema in my right leg and foot. Okay? Not my left. Mhmm. It it eventually Right. Migrated to my left, but, I had, I believe, cracked a rib in, in the course, of it. And, I had the whole metallic taste thing going on, I mean, forever. You know? And it almost killed me twice. And what I the the nearest thing I mean, I live a very solitaire a solitary, lifestyle.
Okay? Most of what I do is on computer, on the Internet, or on the radio, or whatever. So I don't see a lot of people, and I hadn't seen anybody. I hadn't ventured out of the house for, like, 2 weeks before that. But what I did notice was that I had received an Amazon package. And after I recovered, I got to thinking about it. As it turns out, that Amazon package that I received 2 to 3 days before I fell ill had been tampered with. Somebody had opened and re taped the bottom. And when I looked at my order date as opposed to when it when it arrived, it was delayed 8 days. So the only thing I can do is attribute my illness to a very intentional infection that did not work, and, I'm much better for it.
So
[00:21:14] Unknown:
maybe I should do that for They're planning all sorts of yeah. I I think your point about the when you said bird flu, I just thought, oh, yeah. No. It's just they're gonna label it whatever they want, aren't they? It's exhausting living on this planet of assholes. It really is. No. A present company listening audience exempt from that comment. Okay? But it's just simply true, as this show, not alone in this, you know, comes back to again and again and again. We have people who have apparently in charge who, you know, shouldn't even be in charge of something a lot, lot smaller than a country. I can't I can't think straight.
But, yeah. No. Really. Seriously. And, shout out to everybody in Rumble chat. If you're listening on the radio, by the way, and you want to plug into the chat and type things and all that kind of stuff, you can get over onto Rumble, which is the main sort of, nesting place for the show in terms of audience interaction. I've also managed, I think, successfully this week to finally get the show up and running over YouTube live. I struggled with it the other week. It doesn't mean that they'll necessarily be a vast audience there. It's supposed to be running, and it says it's running. But, again, I see that I've probably not got it right because for some reason I can't work the bloody thing out. Anyway, let's not talk about technical things. It's far too boring.
But, yeah, if you wanna head on over to Rumble, you can do that. And and Sally says, it's difficult to even find a birthday card around Christmas. I know because it was my son's last week. Yeah. It is. It's all that kind of stuff, you know, and, and stuff like that. So it's good to have everybody on board, and if you wanna check out with everybody in the room, that's great. So Merry Christmas to you all, and a big thank you for your, support and listening this year, because this is the last one of this year, unless I'm fully recovered and we actually do a New Year's Eve marathon for 16 hours or something. That's a joke, by the way. I wouldn't have that much energy.
[00:23:07] Unknown:
What?
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No. But well, I thought maybe what we could do well, I'm not gonna be doing anything New Year's Eve. I'm all Billy no mates these days. It's sad. I don't want to be. I'd rather go out and just have a con a completely vacuous evening, you know, goofing around and being an idiot, because I think you need a change, a break from all this kind of stuff. In fact, that's one thing that's really struck me. Just having 3 or 4 days off away from all of this has been really good. I feel mentally slightly refreshed, and I need to I thought as note to self, I thought I need to take at least one day a week off of Internet use, just literally not switch it on.
But I just can't pick which day, so I'm buggered because there's always something to do, isn't it? There's always something that's really, really important. I look back and I'm like, I don't think it was important as I thought it was, you know, all that kind of stuff. If So throw
[00:23:55] Unknown:
sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. If you can throw up. No. You can't throw up. I'll put I'll put you up. Yeah. But I'll put you up. Yeah. But I'll put you on to this because Please do. Couple of years ago, I think, oh, 3, 4 years no. It must have been less than that. About 2 years ago. In the summer was was it 2,022? Doesn't matter. There was a, a speaker a little bit like David Ike who did this, gig in a field in, Somerset. And I know 2 people that went there, and they said that there was planes spraying in fields nearby. Yeah. And when they came back, one person, had symptoms almost identical to yourself, and he felt very, very depressed. It affected him mentally, you know, because he felt so depressed with it.
And another chap ended up in hospital. And loads of people that went to this gig, it was beyond the law of averages. And they and remember, they're in a field, this great big field. I mean, if people I don't necessarily believe in, germ theory. But, you know, it's an open air field, and they all went down with this bug, which is really strange. And a certain thing, I read an article. Now, again, if you ask me for the proof, I haven't got it. But there was someone that mentioned that, during the, we call it Divock 91. Sure. We're back to front.
[00:25:22] Unknown:
Oh, no. We're on the rumble. Although hang on. You are on YouTube. I'll be careful. We're not gonna get hey. Oh, I actually, YouTube, just while you're doing that, they they stopped the show last week because of I couldn't publish it. I'm just having to dart around it. I'll get on top of it at some point. I've not really given a fig the last few days, to be quite honest. The remember we played the Andy Williams song last week? It's the most wonderful well, YouTube didn't like that one. They're actually quite fair in a way about the song stuff. They'll say there's a copyright notice on this song, and then you check it through and it goes, and it's been allowed by the artist. You're allowed to to use it. So it's generally only recent stuff or something like that, which I guess is such a perennial classic and has been played for so many years that it's still of of great value and they don't allow anybody to play. I'm cool with that. I don't mind. I don't get upset about any of it, really.
You know, if they wanna choke us off, that's okay. We've got plenty of platforms to go at. I mean, you know, I just feel these platforms as a place to to pick up more audience. But Sure. Eric, apologies for interrupting. You were saying No. No. No. That's okay. But I think if is it over
[00:26:24] Unknown:
someone can correct me here. Is it 60 years, 70 years? If you play stuff like, big band sound, I think you might be okay because it might be out of copyright. I don't know. I might be talking at me back backside on that one. But, anybody in chat or anybody, Paul might know, I don't know, But this copyright thing, I think I think it's over 5th 60 years, I think it is, or something like that. But, it's worth checking out. The other thing I was gonna say is that someone mentioned that the Secret Service during this, the epidemic, shall we say, or the the fable, were distributing, nasty stuff down the tubes in London.
And everybody I know that traveled on the tube during that lockdown time went down with something nasty similar to what you've got. Now I know that they were practiced during the cold war. They were, with germ warfare. They sprinkled lots of stuff down the tube to see how it would spread, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So they've obviously got much more sophisticated since the 19 sixties. That's when seventies when they used to, you know, practice with these germs. And that because, my father, when we went on holiday once to Cornwall, he came out the sea, and his face was all in blisters.
And we thought, what on earth's happened? And he went to the doctor, and the doctor said, oh, it should be this was in Newquay in Cornwall. He said, oh, well, they call it Newquay mouth. He said, it's probably due to the sewage out there. Well, it wasn't because I found out, oh, couple of years ago, because they released some papers, that, Portman Down did experiments at the exact time that we was on holiday there off the coast of Cornwall on germ warfare. And my dad went for a swim, and he came out, as I say, looking like the elephant man. You know, it's horrendous. He felt really self conscious. Ruined our holiday. So I think that what they do, they can actually spread epidemics easily, really easily. And they know about germ warfare. And I'm wondering whether this is something to do with this low overcast cloud because I often watch the Met Office, weather on YouTube, and someone put, this low cloud, I'm finding everybody's going down with a a bad bad, sore throats.
So Mhmm. There's something weird about this overcast because you sometimes have overcast, say, for 2 to 3 days. You don't have it for weeks on end, but we've got it. This is not this is not natural. I've never known overcast to last for weeks on end. Anybody else?
[00:28:59] Unknown:
You're probably right. I mean, it's an English thing. I mean, I I think I've just got so used to overcast England. I'm sort of, like, on weather default all the time. I just expect it to be cloudy, really, at this time of the year. I mean, you know, the as I've mentioned here before, I love where I live in the winter probably more than the summer, which is a bit weird, isn't it? But it's so deserted, which I like, apart from the dog walkers, who are generally pretty cheery lot. Like I mentioned the other week, there was this elderly woman with a a 6 month old collie. I bought a collie, and she's she's older than me, and I was thinking, that's a bit game in it. That poor young dog. I mean, it needs to be out working and doing things. I I, you know, if I was to have a dog, it would be I'd want one of those, but I couldn't let myself have one of those because it wouldn't be right to keep it. Things gotta be out there, you know, barking at sheep and working for someone and feeling great about himself.
I I hate the idea of more being, sort of mangled up, but down here, it has been very gray. The problem is I quite like it in the winter. I mean, I'm not against those lovely, clear, sunny days as well. We've had quite a few of those, but the the dark has been, the dark and the gloom has been pretty good. Anyway, you know how I, sometimes go for ages before I play a song and all that kind of stuff? Well, we're not gonna do that tonight. So the question I'm gonna play one right now, And, I've got a few little things lined up tonight, I think, if I can remember where I've put them all. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah. It's a question. What do Elvis Presley and fish and chips have in common?
Anyone? No? No. No. No. Sure. Kirsty McCall. Greasy? Kirsty McCall. This song. We'd be we'd we'd back with you in 3 minutes after this.
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[00:34:36] Unknown:
And welcome back to Paul English Live here every Thursday. Just thought we get a song in early there, really, what would it be? Boxing day, we're all in a party mood, and why not, indeed? And I'm here with Eric and Paul and Patrick, and, some good comments in there. I like I like that one as well. I think, Eric, you might have commented it as well. The one from Herodotus, action man deserter. That was a good present. Action man it was an empty box. Now Action Man over here, you guys, I think it's isn't it GI Joe that you had in in the states? Isn't that it?
Yes? No?
[00:35:12] Unknown:
GI Joe? Yeah. We had GI Joe.
[00:35:15] Unknown:
Yeah. So over here, GI Joe was renamed action man. What's the
[00:35:21] Unknown:
There's a gay version, isn't there? It's called looking for action man.
[00:35:26] Unknown:
Anyway, Eric, I think that's very much in keeping with the spirit of the
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day.
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I'm terribly sorry if we've offended you if in America, it's the middle of the afternoon. I'm terribly sorry, but we are British. So these things will pop up from time to time. So so there we go. Okay. Well, maybe you could no. Let's not go there. Let's cut that let's cut that, that line of, of discussion off immediately. Very, very quickly indeed. So, yeah. But I quite like that. An empty box action man deserves a model. Very good. Did you any anybody get any interesting presents for Christmas? No. I bought myself tumbleweed moment there. There's just all I could hear was nothing.
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I bought myself a present present. I buy myself a Christmas present every year. And this year, I bought myself a fountain pen. I just wanna get back into using a fountain pen because I've noticed that ballpoint pens, you cannot actually write, as well with a ballpoint pen as with a fountain pen. So I'm going back. Obviously, I still use a ballpoint pen, but if I'm writing anything like a card, a card, a card, anything like that, I'll do it in a fountain pen because it it's just got that extra little bit of personal a show to it. Is anybody else going back to fountain pens? Because, Well, I might.
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Yeah. I I have a bunch of them.
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They're lovely, aren't they?
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Yeah. Do I also would I also need to invest, though, in a Victorian wooden writing desk?
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It'd be interesting. Some, You don't have to.
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And washing powder for your shirt so that when you open it up quickly now the actually, I found that it's very, very good, but the old fountain pens used to flick all,
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ink everywhere. All up your shirt, all up your jacket, but modern ones know that there's clean You must have been you must have been writing like a maniac. What do you mean? Yeah. All over your shirt. Well I say writing furiously with your pen in school.
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Well, no. I used to I went through a phase all when I was in my twenties of going back to a fountain pen, because, you know, biros when I was in school. And, oh, sorry. No. I'm so old. No. They're slight. No. But, joking aside, I went back to using the fountain pens because, working on a drawing board, you know, you got used to using, rotary or, what was the other one? Come on, brain. No. I used to use, proper drawing pens, and they they were very inky in that. But, no. The thing is is that there's some your handwriting does change with a fountain pen, but but it's very, very difficult when you're left handed because you're smudging your own work all the time.
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Do you So do you think, Eric, that if you if you get back into using the fountain pen more regularly Yeah. With good parchment and script, All sorts of other little things might happen to you, like, I could see sort of like you might start to get a handkerchief in your breast pocket. And then That's right. Probably you might grow one of those mustaches that curl up a little bit at the edges, you see, and then you can stroke them. I think these things actually happen in due course. You suddenly after a few years of writing, you begin to oil start to look like Charles chickens or something like that. You know? And,
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you could just give a yes? So I've started with a pocket watch. I I think I think it's a kind of, like, a, a kind of habit that happens. You know? So I've got the pocket watch, the fountain pens. Oh, I think the mustache is probably next. You know, the one with the pointy pointy bits. Yeah. Oh, the tweed hat. I've got that as well. So, you know, I'm almost there. Because it looked like my granddad, in fact.
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Why why is it that those guys, right, could do that with this must I mean, I can I I actually shaved my beard off last week? I have a beard because I'm just a lazy bugger, and I've just got too many things to do. That's my pathetic excuse. I could, of course I need to become properly dressed every day. But those guys back then, you know, they have those wonderful mustaches, don't they? They seem to be everywhere. I I can imagine everybody grew one. Maybe they only took photographs of guys with magnificent mustaches that curl up at the edges. I can grow a big full beard, but I just can't get the curly mustache.
Well, a good friend of mine couldn't get a a massive beard, or it didn't suit him at all, but the mustache was really rather magnificent. So it's quite a bit of mustache. But then the mustache, of course, has become with looking for action man, unfortunately, these days. So so it's all a bit grim, isn't it? But, well, I'd be interested to know how you how your physical appearance metamorphoses through your use of the fountain pen, Eric. Yes. Yes. Quite interesting, isn't it? You know? It would.
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It would. I'm not I mean, when much slower, and then you you take more time writing, and you put more feeling into it. So that's one thing I have, though, which is the thing I do I was gonna come to that.
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You see, I think this whole thing about speed is causing a loss of con it's a reduction in considered thought. It's too easy to copy and paste and fire things off, and it's not going in. It's all surface communication, most of it. It's just it doesn't actually sort of improve your substance. Maybe schools should go back to pots of ink. Yeah? On the you meant I we had those when I were I mean, this is in the seventies, I remember. We still had the old desks from the forties fifties that were in our schools. They were, like, 35, 40 years old. They were from World War 2, and they all of them had, you know, a pot for your ink. You had to go and get your ink from the teacher, the front you know, get your ink ration for the day because the schools must have gone through gallons of ink. I guess the ink manufacturers were mortified when the by rail came out. But there is something good about fountain pens. They're great. And I always remember my dad talking about them as if they were really great things just like you've done, and it seems to be quite a normal thing to talk about them in that way. They're they're pleasant objects, aren't they? They're they're nicely designed when they work well. We always used to buy Parkers, I think it was. That was the manufacturer at the time. Yeah. And they would, of course, every now and again, have a mild eruption in your upper pocket, And your white shirt suddenly became a white and blue shirt. We used blue ink at school. We were told to use blue.
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Quink was the one we did. Right? Quink ink. Quink ink. Quite expensive now, but, actually, this isn't a parka doll or a Chinese one. And I have to say, I'm very, very impressed with it. The engineering of it is is is really precise.
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And, we're right. It's first time every time. I'm really pleased with it. It's brilliant. And it You're not one of these Chinese 5th columnist agents, are you? Expanding their enterprise at our expense, making them buy Chinese pets.
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Poor. Her
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her other son has more industrial approach. He's using quills and soot. Good lad.
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By the way, would would you like a a a medical remedy for for all these, you know, all these, nasty, colds and things? The one that I sent you to, Paul.
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Doctor von Essex. Now that sounds like a comic book villain, doesn't it? Doctor von s Doctor von Doctor von Essex, please tell us. We're all ears. Well Yes. Please do. Medically trained. So I gotta give a disclaimer. I'm not medically trained.
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You do it at your own risk and this, that, and the other, you know, use a prep. But what I was gonna say is, after the 1918 flu epidemic or alleged one, the American government put out a tender to American industry to for them to come up with a cure for this flu. And in Alban Hammer, the people that do the toothpaste, won it. And what they discovered is they found that if they got half a teaspoon, and I mean, a very mean, a very, very tight fisted half a teaspoon, so don't pile it up, into a beaker of water, warm water, take that every 2 hours when you have the first signs of a cold or the flu, Every 2 hours. But remember, the important thing with this remedy is not to overdo it. It's like shock troops to your system.
And that's on the first day, every 2 hours, every 4 hours on the second day, and then once in the morning and once at night on the 3rd day. But I've never reached the 3rd day. It's usually gone in the on the first day. It works for me. And it had, the medic, you know, the the medical people, they did tests on it, and they found it worked. And then in about the mid 19 twenties, it suddenly disappeared from the limelight, and big pharma took over. And it was unheard of after that, but the older doctors that were around still used it and still went for it. And, I found I mean, for example, on a Monday, I woke up one morning feeling very language, you know, and a dry throat. Oh, no. A cold coming on that. Do a show that evening.
So I took it, and by about lunchtime, it went. I know. It just completely went. And what it is is that colds and flu feed on a an acidic environment, and our food is mainly acidic. And what taking the bar harness over turns to the environment into alkaline where a cold can't survive. That's why you have honey and lemons. Right. But bicarbonate of soda is like the SIS. That goes straight in, like, the shock troops, you know, commandos, and really knocks 9 bells out of it. It works for me, and I can't praise it enough. But you gotta be careful what bar carbon that you buy because there's you're buying savers that you wash your floor with, and you gotta get stuff from the Cape stain in the supermarket.
It's a bit more expensive. It's about a pound or or £2 for a little, you know, part of it. But you don't use much. But don't do what a friend of mine did. You phone me up and because you see the the side effect of this is, you are in the loo all the time because it's flushing the nasties, the germs out of you. So you keep going for to the loo. And the second thing is flatulence, chronic flatulence. And he phoned me up, and he said, I've put half a dessert spoon in a tub of water. Is that right? I said, wait a minute. Paul. Don't light a match.
Whatever you do, don't light a match. You take it off off the. But, no, it works. So that it's worked for me. Minutes.
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Well well noted there, Patrick. Only took 43 minutes, Eric. Wasn't it? Maybe maybe that's for you to hold off before we got round to Oh, fine. Department. Well, I'm glad you said it. By the way, the the, the subtext for the the little note I put on today's show is Boxing Day broadcast special sprout recovery edition. Did anybody eat any did did anybody eat sprouts? Come on in the chat. We need to know. Yes. No.
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Did did you? No. Eric, seriously, did you eat sprouts? Yes. Yeah? Yes. I love sprouts. I really do like brats.
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I can cook, you see. I can cook. Yes. So so my son said, dad, we'll do the cooking, which I was grateful for, but then I couldn't eat the food anyway. So it was all a bit sort of like I was just like this I was like the the Grinch or whatever you call it in the house. It's like, just going around being grossy. And, they forgot to cook the sprouts. I said, you do I said, without green on the plate, just doesn't look right. They said, we don't care. We just want bread sauce. So, really, my lads hit on the same thing that I hit on very early on in life is that the main reason for the roast lunch is to just load up with bread sauce. That's that's really it. Yeah. And, we had some pretty good bread sauce, but no sprouts. I was quite glad of it because well, we don't need to go into it all. Although, Eric, you may take the opportunity to dive in there with the sprout report.
Xoxoxo writes, aunt Sally writes sprouts with a big smiley. Oh, is that a smiley or a look of savage consternation? I can't make out the smiley there. Sprouts there. They're a challenging thing. They're the mightiest of of micro vegetable. Little atom bombs, I'm sorry. That go off. It's an exfecturation
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emoji she's using there.
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Is that what it is? What salivating? Is that what it is?
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More more like vomit.
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Oh, it's the other way. Alright. Okay. So it's not it's not the production of large amounts of saliva in anticipation of of, of sprouts. It's the other it's on the other side of it. Right? Excellent. Sprouts are an acquired taste. Yes. With age and wisdom. Oh, I like that. That's very wise. It is. I I bought everybody about sprouts anyway the other week, didn't I? 13 before I ate my first one and wasn't ill. Quite liked them, but they they'll you've gotta be careful with sprouts. They should come with a health warning. They're serious. I love them. Parsnips with parsnips as well.
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Olds sprouts and butter.
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I I actually I I I I I've actually cleared, whole aisles of the supermarket after eating sprouts and parsnips.
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Eric, we'll have to do some if you wanna boost the audience to Fockem Hall, we need to get some video footage of you in your local supermarket. Right? Here is a normal supermarket. They don't know what's about to hit them. Here's Eric. He just had Sprouts 2 hours ago. Now let's watch. And it's like one of those hidden camera things. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. They are. They're unbelievable. It was a joke in the house all the time. My dad was he was obsessed with it to the same degree that you are. Anything that has to do with that part of the anatomy, he would get hysterical about it his entire life. I could never really quite work it out, but he he laughed so much. He was very infectious all the time. And I thought, well, this probably is the height of British humor. The sprout really sums it all up. It's, it's a symbol of of gross eating and vulgarity, and and anyway, there we go. So, yeah, it's the working class. It's the working class vegetable.
I can't imagine that they have sprouts at, Buckingham Palace, do they? I mean, apart from the ones that live there. But,
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you know in Britain. It's it's Bedfordshire. If you've been to Bedfordshire on a wet day in January and you smelt the brussels sprouts fields, shall we say, flatulence would smell like Chanel number 5 compared to what you can smell around. It's constant you smell this sort of underlying sprout smell. But, the thing to do when you're in the supermarket is to go up to the fruit and vegile. And if you just sort of had a a, shall we say, how can I put this politely? At a discretion, shall we say? Pick up a piece of fruit. No. I think that's all. Sticks vile, then put it back again. Kind of, like, I mean, a disgusting look. It takes the owners off of you, you see. Pick pick up the fruit. Yeah. That's spell. So that's a little I can,
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I I can, sense a sprout documentary coming on, Eric? I think you need to do a whole thing on the sprout. Why are they is it are they called brussels sprouts because they originally came from Brussels? Or have they got their own particularly volatile Belgian brussel type sprouts that they used? Maybe they designed it in World War 1 to lay the Germans low or something and feed them on sprouts. Just incapacitate them with excessive amounts of wind because you can't move when you get it trapped like that. Anyway, look. I'm getting drawn into this. This is very, very bad. Aunt Sally says, let's try and put some Aunt Sally writes, she says, I once I like this. I once choked when I swallowed a whole sprout whilst trying to be polite and not leave them on my plate.
My in laws many years ago, memories, yes. Well, I'm just going to start coughing if I don't watch it. So I'm gonna cough.
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He's coughing. Yes. There we go. Actually That was a cracker that was. Now look at the Jerusalem artichoke. It's nothing to do with Jerusalem. It's just called a Jerusalem artichoke, but there's nothing to do with Jerusalem at all. There's lots of vegetables like that, that for example,
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Well, the swede has the swede got anything to do with Sweden? No. I don't think so.
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What about kiwi though, isn't it? They used to call them Chinese gushberries until the Korean War, and sales dropped in America, so they renamed them kiwi fruits. They used to be called kiwi fruits. They didn't wanna buy anything that had the word Chinese in it. No. No. Because of car Korean War. So they changed it to kiwi fruit, and sales went up again. Weird, ain't it?
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Yeah.
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But, interesting, really. Oh, it's great. Well, I'm not I I never thought we'd do a show so much about vegetables. I mean, we are talking about vegetables, but human vegetables in charge of the affairs of the world usually, are we? To talk about the real thing is quite refreshing in a way. But yeah. Have have we talked about anything serious yet? I mean, we don't have to. This week is Boxing Day. Right? This is a sort of you got anything you wanna bring up, guys? Just jump in there. I I've got certain little clips and things. There was there was something that sort
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of got my go earlier this week. I got a question as as as an American. When did Yeah. Boston Day start and why? What what's the point of it? How did it come to be?
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Yeah. I think it's a good question. I don't know. I'm gonna make a ludicrous guess because, and it won't be true. I mean, people have been giving oh, gosh. Hang on.
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Yeah. Good. Well, it's a bit like, another saying, get the sack. Do you have that in America? Someone's got the sack. That means they've been, relieved of their job.
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Yeah. Well, yeah. We If you get fired We call we call it getting getting sacked. Yeah. What happened sacked.
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Yeah. They they used to, give the employee or ex employee the sack to collect his, tools and go. Oh. So they get when you got the sack, it means you got the sack to collect up your tools and clear off, and that's it. So that's where it comes from because they're mainly, agricultural workers years ago, and they had brought their own tools along. So that's where the term got the sack. Yeah. In foot in American football, when the quarterback
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is sacked, it means he's been tackled.
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Mhmm.
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It's generally a bad thing. Yeah. Bad. It's a negative thing to be sacked. Yeah. It's to lose something that you once had or or whatever. So I guess in American football, it's possession of the ball. You've just suddenly you know, you've been sacked. And then the the sacking of Rome and things like this. It's all that too. Yeah. Dragging stuff off and all that kind of stuff. I like all these sort of little roots of these phrases. The there's another one called one for the road. Do you have that over there in America when it comes to drinking? 1 for the road. I'll have one for the road. Yeah. Yep. So you're at the bar. It's last orders or whatever.
One for the road is your last drink of the night. Yeah. Well, that comes from the hanging of people at Tyburn in London. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So when the evil criminal had been found guilty of, you know, looking at a pig or whatever it was, used to get, you know, killed for anything around here 4 or 500 years ago, or they actually really murdered someone or whatever they'd done, they would be put on a cart, and, they would be transported in extreme comfort through politely mannered crowds. I'm, of course, being completely sarcastic. They were probably jeered at a lot and received cabbages and things like this, but I think they were generally protected, and they would be on a cart, or this wagon.
Right? Oh, no. Sorry. Yeah. There's 2 phrases. So and part of their last request was that they would stop at a pub, I've forgotten the name of it, and, they would have their last drink there. They would have their last drink there, and so that was where one for the road came from to to have this last drink before they got back on the road, before they were killed, just so that you don't forget it. And then when when people stopped drinking, it meant to get they would get the guy would get back on the wagon, so getting on the wagon means going t total, in in this case the guy would have no choice because he's going to be dead very soon, as he's never going to have another drink, and that's where going on the wagon comes from, meaning I'm going to stop drinking alcohol, you would be jumping back on the cart taking you to your
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execution. Your mind. So, Yep. And then getting off the wagon means you Yeah. You're,
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you're free. You escape the Yeah. Yeah. You escape the noose, and you're back in the pub because that's the first thing you'd wanna do if you escape death. I must have a drink. So, yeah. There's another kind of stuff.
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Sounds disgusting. It sounds rude, and I assure you No. Eric, a disgusting phrase from you. Yes. It's shocked. Not not rude at all, but people No. Good. And I'll show you, isn't it? And it is called, when it's a really cold day, that's, like, it's enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey. And the brass monkey was the, a kind of tripod that they used to put cannonballs on. And when it got really cold, the, the thing would contract, and the cannonballs will go rolling across the ship's deck. So that's where they say it's so cold. It has freeze the balls of a car brass monkey. It's the cannonballs. So it's not rude at all, and that's where it comes from.
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And That's interesting. I had a slight What about I you're absolutely spot on. I had a slight variation that I thought it'd come from the Crimea war where it was very cold on a over nighttime. And a brass monkey or the monkey was the case in which they kept the balls, and they would take them out and put them on the top so that they could if they came under fire, they could get them loaded up quick. If it was a cold night, you're absolutely the the brass monkey would contract causing the balls to fall off. So, hence, same thing.
Anyway, should should I try and talk properly now?
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So What about eavesdropping? Do do you do you have that in America, eavesdropping? Yes. Yes. Yes. The FBI. Where it comes from. Yeah. What it is is that houses in Britain, sorry, England and Scotland and Wales, had, very wide eaves, in those days because we had, whatland door type walls Yep. Which is to keep them dry. And, of course, they didn't many houses didn't have glass windows or anything like that. So people used to take cover when it rained under the eaves of the house, and they would earwig what was going on inside the house. Oh. Hence, the word eavesdropping.
They're dropping in listening to arguments and all kinds of gossip that's going on inside the house. So, that's where it came from. So I don't know if you Got it. Do do you have that saying in in America eavesdropping?
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Eve eavesdropping. Yeah. But as far as, the the root of it, no. I didn't know that. That's that's that makes perfect sense.
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Yeah. We're having a very educational boxing day here, aren't we? Word wise, it's good. Isn't it cool?
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That's fantastic. Lighting of a cigarette in the First World War. That's an interesting one. And they carried it onto the Second World War as well. I'm not sure because not many people smoke nowadays. It's where you was it you now I might have got this wrong. You give one person a light. You give the 2nd person a light. You share it you know, if they're sharing a cigarette. But the third one, you you you stub it out. And the reason why is the first person you gave the light to, if there was a sniper, he would get his sights in line. The second one, he would take aim, and the third one, he would shoot and kill the person. So what you did, you you you you lit the cigarette and then threw the match out so the sniper couldn't hit anybody.
So that's why you always threw the 3rd light away. And, they did the 2nd World War as well. 1st and second World War. They
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And that's why smoking is so dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So dangerous smoking. You just get shots.
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Yeah. You give away your position. Yep. Well, that's right. Yeah. They might have done that in the Gulf War. I don't know. That's I don't know. Do the many many
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servicemen smoke? Don't know. I've I've no idea. I will No. No idea. Anywhere near there when they were all signing up for the last one. I wanted nothing to do with that.
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I don't Anyway yeah. I feel, it don't feel like a normal show today because it's not really a normal show, which is fine, it being the end of the year and all that kind of stuff. I don't know. I always preferred New Year as I got older because I, you know, I, I don't know if I mentioned it last week, but without young children around absolutely full of apoplectic excitement about presents and everything, that sort of energy that they bring, is the key ingredient I always thought to Christmas. That kind of goes when you're a cool teenager and you've got to go to the disco, Not that I ever went, but you know what I mean. That kind of thing or going out to the pub. I I had so many good New Year's Eves up in Newcastle in a place called Jesmond. Absolute blast of a time up there, really. Went 3 years in a row, and it was just fantastic.
We all pile in these terrible cars that were falling apart full of rust and drive from Leeds up to Newcastle and then hang around in these pubs and trying to understand what people from Newcastle were saying, which I could never work out. It's one of the most, you know, when they're really going like the clappers, the accent's so strong. Really, I found it almost impenetrable at times. And I'm from up north, and I just couldn't make it out half the time. But some great people up there, wonderful wonderful atmosphere. So, anyway, let's hope we have a similar thing this year without any incidents, of course. We don't want any incidents, but, brace yourself. Who knows what's gonna happen? You know? So, all that kind of stuff.
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We used to stand around the fire. Family used to get together at Christmas, and we'd all gather around and have a old traditional family argument. Throw pots and pans and lamps Yeah. There was You know what? Because what it is, it was a time I think it's a time when people that are trying to avoid each other all year round have to be with each other for extended lengths of time, and very few families actually get on.
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Because I I think it's absolutely exhausting. When you look back as a when you're when you're the young one it's just amazing. Right? Everybody's kind to you and but for the grown ups like your mum and your dad having to cook everything, rush around, pick up your grandma or their mum and dad, move them here, do that. It's absolutely you're just shattered by the time you don't even wanna eat when they get back. My dad was sort of like, you know? And then people had turned up their nerves a bit frayed. We had some auntsies and uncles that couldn't drive. Seriously, they never wanted to. So they used to use public transport or book cabs, and it would take them an hour to get from one side of Leeds to the other in a cab, and they'd all turn up. And it was all very I used to find it quite exhausting. I think everybody else did. It was something that had to be done, but I think you're right, Eric. There are all these subtle little tensions.
And it just takes one little spark and suddenly it's mince pies at 6 yards. You know what I mean? It's that kind of stuff. It's very it's all part of it. But overall, mine were pretty peaceful. There weren't any serious punch ups or anything like that. I can recall when I was a when I were a lad and all that kind of stuff. We're at the top of the hour. Well, we've just gone past it. Jodie Kaye. I think I had Jodie on as a guest here, oh, right at the beginning of the show over a year and a half ago, and I've not heard from Jodie in a bit. If you hear this, Jodie, merry Christmas to you. Somebody, in the Telegram chat the other day put a Jodie k rendition of a song. I quite liked it. It's very sort of old in English. It's called tie the ribbon, not the yellow ribbon around the old oak tree. It's an old traditional English thing. I've not even bothered looking it up, but I really liked it. It's 3 minutes long. We're gonna play that here at the top of the hour, and we'll be back after this one. Jodie Kaye.
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Snow. Spring will come and corn will grow. We'll tie the ribbon with a long, long load. It is a the men who covered the world.
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Isn't that lovely? I thought it was lovely, with top hat Watkins and some comments in, from ants. I quite like that. I've not listened to it all the way through. It's very sort of English and rural. And just if you're in America, yes, we were all out in the fields dancing on the sprouts to that yesterday in our clogs and things. I wish we were in a way. It seems more Aunt Sally writes that she went camping with Jodie Kay. Well, Aunt Sally knows everyone, which is useful to know. And she also writes, pretty sure I know the guy, Top Hat Watkins, I think he's known us, that's singing with her too, been camping with him as well, and the one that's playing the fiddle.
Anyway, I don't know what you thought of that gents, but I quite liked that. What do you think? I mean, if you don't like it, say so. It's eclectic music night tonight. If we're we're doing things, we're gonna move it around. It's brilliant.
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I love it. I thought it's real it is really sort of traditionally although they say it's sort of Irish mixed, but it's just traditional of our culture. Let's put it that way. Beautiful, real nice, you know, calming sorry.
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What did she say? Recent.
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Yeah. I don't I don't know. She's gotten much better. I've I've been following her music for some time. It's she's really good.
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Well, I I thought her voice there was offset brilliantly by the backing. It's just there's a great contrast between her really clear vocal delivery and that lovely warm backing sound, and it was great. And it was rural, and the end's fantastic. So it's first time I've heard it all the way through. I always like to hear them first time through because it's a surprise to me. And if we get a duff one, we get a duff one. It doesn't matter. But that wasn't a duff one at all. That was great. So shout out, Jodie. That was a lovely song. And, maybe try and get you back on early part of next year. We've not had you on for over a year, and you've probably been very busy. I know she got very busy having to do certain things, had to sort of adjust her week and all sorts of stuff like that. But, yeah, jolly good stuff.
[01:08:50] Unknown:
Catherine tickle. She she she's nice. Catherine tickle. She she does, northern, like bagpipes, but they're an English version of bagpipes. You you play them under your arm, which is a bit different. Catherine Tickle. Alright. Catherine Tickle. She's from north, Newcastle area.
[01:09:09] Unknown:
She she's not accompanied by a guy called Bob Slap, is she? Tonight, on the bill, they've come a long way to be with you. It's slap and tickle. There you go. It's a bit of slap and tickle. Sorry. I'm not trying to be rude to that. I just couldn't resist that one. I've gotta see a band like that. Oh, I want to go now. I'm off out for a bit of slap and tickle. Anybody coming? I can't be in. Yeah. Great. Well, actually, in a way, you know, the other week as well, we were talking about, the Playford music, and I was banging on about, the organized English country dancing in large numbers.
That's that's redolent of that type of music. He's obviously a little bit more modern and sophisticated. It's tonal sounds, compared to the bands I've heard or the, you know, yeah, the bands that were playing the other stuff. I'm gonna try and dig some of those things up that might be palatable here on the radio show. We're not, you know, I don't want to sort of live 400 years ago all the time. I do it too much as it is, but, it might be worth introducing those because they're very English sounding and you don't realize what's really English sounding until you hear it again. You go, oh, yeah. That really does capture this kind of stuff, you know. So it's it's nice. And I'm, maybe I'm just at that age where I like that more sort of genteel reflective sort of sound, which I do. I'm still listen to head banging stuff every now and again, but not here on the radio. It's far too noisy.
[01:10:35] Unknown:
Well, yeah. For 1, wasn't it?
[01:10:37] Unknown:
And Yeah. Didn't I play some steel I did play some Steel I Span here a couple of months ago after Andy Hitchcock was on. We did that recording. He picked a couple of Steel I Span songs, and they were brilliant. There was a little a live one all around my hat. I probably still got it kicking around in it. We might play that later on. There's no harm in repeating things, if we like him and it's good. And as I said, it's a bit of a sort of moving a movable feast is tonight's thing. In terms of serious stuff or things that have been, no doubt getting everybody's goat, the latest blather with regard to this grocery tax. Have you seen this nonsense, Rick? Yep.
Yes. Of it, Patrick, Paul, you're aware of a newly snuck in grocery tax? Well, they're they're planning to add a lot of tax to food groups, certain food groups, to combat climate change. I don't know what's supposed to do with these people. Well Oh my Yeah. Climate change, Paul. It's very important that we pay more money to a bunch of technical oaths and misanthropes who don't know anything about anything except how to plumb the pocket of the British taxpayer. And I don't want to moan about it because, well, I do, I suppose, but I don't really wanna make the show about that because everybody is rightfully fully whining about it properly and constructively. But, obviously, what we really need is a consumer pressure group to kick this stuff into touch the minute it it arises in their head. We we've got I'm I'm repeating things again, but we have to keep repeating them. We have no representation.
These oaths are making decisions that are completely against the quality of life. They're not doing anything for us at all. In fact, the only thing they're doing for us is making our lives worse, and they're making us pay for their mistakes, which is what they've done their entire lives because they literally are the people that make all the mistakes, and then we get blamed for it when it goes wrong. And it always goes wrong, so we always get blamed for it, and we always get handed the bill. It's it's mad. It's like having sort of idiot son or daughter that just can't stop spending money, and we have to keep picking up the tab. And it's always our fault that the goods and things that they broke that they purchased broke or something. I mean, it's just what I don't know what we're supposed to do with these people. So we have to find a way of of them really hurting when this when they do this sort of nonsense. And, there's I mean, I I came across I got a report from my sons in today. We've talked about the, the, you know, the manure from Bill Gates.
Not that anything that he produces is not manure. He's just basically a walking manure producer, a liar, and, and a terrorist as far as I'm concerned. He's, he he he absolutely conforms the definition of terrorists. He's using violence, physical violence by whilst pretending to help us to achieve political ends, and that's I think you mentioned that, Paul, some months ago. That is the definition of terrorism, to use violence to achieve political aims. And, so he's definitely one of those. But consumer pressure groups, Eric, we were when I talked to you earlier today, we were talking about this mighty figure from, English culture, British culture in the 19 sixties, a woman who was at the time absolutely derided.
If you see pictures of her, you'll understand why. She came she was dressed like one of the seaside women with these horn rimmed glasses, and she was a school headmistress, wasn't she? Or a school teacher, I think, at some point. So That's right. Yeah. And she spoke like that. She was called called Mary White house. And, you said something to me, Eric, as well today, which is the way I responded at the time as a sort of young lad of, oh, what a fuddy duddy, weird, old bat that is. That was that was the impression, wasn't it?
[01:14:20] Unknown:
Well, that's right. And the, nasty tricks department of the government, as they usually do, they trashed a lot of her. So they made out a lot of stuff about her to put it in the mainstream, which wasn't true. Mhmm. And at the time, I was laughing. Oh, silly old Mary White house. Woah. And all this. But she was right. A 100% correct. And she didn't live too far from me. And Mhmm. BBC did a play about her. And it had to be politically correct, of course. And Yeah. Where she lived, I think it was near Fincherfield. It wasn't at Fincherfield. I think it's around there. There, it's in Essex, and there's, like, little country villages around there.
And I know for a fact there were no immigrants in that area at all. Mhmm. There's very few now. But then when Mary White house was about, there was 0. Yet what they showed you, was people going around that those villages and, immigrants living there, which there wasn't at that time. So Yep. Again, they're corrupting history. They corrupted it. And, again, there was taking the Mickey out of her, which is typical BBC. But if it wasn't for her, I mean, she started what was called the 9 o'clock watershed. Has anybody heard of that? Do you have have that in America at all? 9 o'clock watershed? No. No? What that is, they're not allowed to show nudity or anything sexual
[01:15:51] Unknown:
before 9 o'clock in the evening. Yeah. They have a similar thing with the FCC here and over the air broadcasting on television. They're at least there used to be,
[01:16:01] Unknown:
but it's kind of a standard thing. Yeah. I I don't know whether it's the same now, but, that that that that it was getting more and more and more promiscuous, and she had this watershed on. And what she predicted has come true, And, you know, she could see it in the schools. And she said, once they allowed what was called the permissive society, she said, all hell broke loose. And she's right. It did. So, you know, it's it's it's it's all gone.
[01:16:28] Unknown:
Yeah. So we need to make Mary great again. Yeah. We need to revive. Yeah. May maybe we have the Mary White house awards for upholding traditional values in Britain. We need to pick all these sorts of people that they ridiculed at the time. Give them a face lift, respin it, and throw it back at them. I don't know whether people would warm up to it. They probably think I'm a bit of a weirdo, I suppose. But the young people, Paul, they won't know what you're talking about. So what? You know, we need to give certain things a a go. She wasn't the most attractive personality. She was very officious in many ways. I accept all that kind of stuff. But the principle that she was arguing for is completely sound. What's occurred now, of course, is that once you allow that escalation of vulgarity in language and I'm not averse to it. I've been to work in men's clubs. I've seen Roy Chubby Brown. Right? I've been around that language all my life. There's a time and a place for it. Public TV is generally not helped by it because what I think it's led to in the main is, an escalation of vulgarity to get attention.
So comic comics became more and more and more vulgar and explicit. Now anything is to be and we're all supposed to laugh because they've just pushed the there aren't any barriers left. If you don't actually set some up, there's not that edge that you can go up to and dance around. And I think it's reduced creativity, a great deal of creativity in comedy. There's still some brilliant stuff. There's been some brilliant stuff made as well in isolated incidences. Stuff that's very dry, very sarcastic about things, which is an English way, which I find very funny. All sorts of very odd things. I watched not that I'm a massive fan of Alan Partridge, but, there's a film of his called Alpha Pepper. Have you have you seen that one, Eric?
[01:18:08] Unknown:
It's it's not as bad. There's one where he's a social worker, which I I found hysterical, saw bits of it, where he gets involved in in, I don't know, some spy network accidentally. And that was hysterical.
[01:18:23] Unknown:
But I've I haven't seen the film right way through, but I don't know this one that you've you've mentioned. Because he's a very Well, it's I I would I'd recommend it. It's there's a bit of a little bit of vulgarity in it, but it's quite appropriate because it's all set in a radio station, radio Norwich. It is. It's very interesting, and it's very funny. There's some incredibly funny bits in it because, what's the plot? A company comes in and buys up the station, and all the DJs are going, oh, no. They're gonna suck us. Right? And one of them, an Irish guy, forgot his name. I forgot the name of Mr. Carixa.
It's a choice between get rid of Alan Partridge or get rid of this other guy. And Alan, who's always making out that he's best mates with this Irish guy, is at the board meeting. Is it Paddy? Let's say it's Paddy. I don't know if I've got his name right. And he writes on the board, get rid of Paddy because he just wants to keep his job. Right? You you'll get the gist of it when you see it. Anyway, Paddy gets sacked, and and he thanks Alan for standing up for him because he thinks he stood up for him. He's not. He's the one that actually got him fired. Right? Because he didn't wanna lose his own job. And he comes back to the station the next day with a shotgun and starts shooting the place up, and it turns into a siege. And it's very dark, darkly comic, very funny, with some wonderful little characters in it, and it's brilliant. I mean, Alan Partridge wouldn't probably countenance anything that we talk about here. I think he, as a as an individual, he's extremely left wing and all that kind of stuff, whatever I might mean by that. You know? But, I mean, I may be wrong. Maybe I'm he's very bright, though. Very good at impersonations.
And, Yeah. It's it's worth checking out. It's very funny. My son said, dad, you never saw this all the way through, so he watched it the other day. There's some there's some very good funny funny visual gags. I can't really tell him, but you you'd enjoy it, Eric. So the the English audience would would like it. I don't know whether it would translate too well to to a US audience. It's it's full of extremely, English sorts of humor, but it's it's bloody funny. The sea the siege is just great. It's a bit where it's a bit where he's trying to get out of the building and his trousers get cut. You'd like this is for you, Eric. Right? This is a trouser moment. Right? He's trying to get out of the out of the, toilet window so that this guy didn't come and shoot him, but his trousers get caught on the, that sticky up bit where you put the I I can't talk properly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And as he's coming out the window, he just pulls all his trousers off so he's completely from the waist down, there's nothing there. Right? He's in his birthday suit. Yeah. And all these photographers turn up and they're shooting pictures of his backside, which go all over the it's very funny. So you'd like that. It's in it's in yeah. So you're liking it already, and you haven't even seen it. I knew you'd like it. What was it called today? What's the name of it? That's what I think. I think he's called Alpha Papa. He he takes on this role of being he he he lives in a kind of fantasy world from time to time, and he takes on this role of being this great tough negotiator. But it all gets cocked up again and again and again, but there's some great scenes in it. Some very funny scenes, and they they take the Mickey out of sort of action heroes and siege heroes and all that kind of stuff. It's it's it's quite funny. Yeah. It's it's pretty funny, so I think you'd like that.
[01:21:35] Unknown:
Yeah. But the big big problem with humor now, though, is that I mean, it's like, what was his name? Hang on. Max Miller always said and my uncles often said this, don't hit the punch line. Let people imagine the punch line. And they effing and blinding in that. That that to me isn't humor. It's avoiding that and letting people's imaginations work forward. So by not hitting the punch line, it's more funny. And, I mean, Max Miller, I mean, be not wouldn't be particularly funny to a generation today. And I didn't I didn't find his stuff very funny. But at the time, it was hysterical, what he said, because he'd go from one joke to another joke and then another joke, but never hitting the punch line. So you're just getting one punch line, and then he goes to the next one. You know? It's a bit like, well, it's a bit like the old reindeer one, isn't it? You know?
Rudolph the rat Rudolph the reindeer was a really nice old stick. All of the other reindeers used to like to lick his hoof. You know? So you're not I've not hit the punchline. It's not rude. But other pea people's my imaginations are going wild on that one because they all That was rude. That was very rude. That was very, very rude. That was No. It was rude. I said, hoof. It's not rude, is it? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. That that is that is the art. They they sort of getting around the sensors. But, did you know that, do you know the Baldy, have you heard of I don't think in America you'd heard of Bandsworth cards, but when you went to the sea in this country, we had salty postcards.
You probably see I sometimes post them on Facebook and sometimes on Telegram, these saucy postcards. And the old boy that used to do the the illustrator got arrested for under the obscene publication act Poor sod. And he was in the yeah. And, this was in the early sixties, apparently. And I think they still do the saucy postcards, but they're not as they're a bit tame now compared what they used to be. But, again, that was all in duendo, all double meaning all the way through. Typically English humor. Did you get anything like that in the States, like saucy postcards when you went any anywhere, Paul or Patrick near the sea?
[01:24:00] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure they had them. Yeah. I don't Yeah. I don't recall exactly what company would do that, but I know that, like, my I had a great uncle. He used to work at Brown and Bigelow Printing in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and they were they were known for doing the Maryland Monroe calendars back in the fifties and whatnot and that kind of stuff. But, yeah, we had that kind of thing.
[01:24:25] Unknown:
Yeah. It's, but, again, it was very skillful because it didn't actually hit the punch line. It's all double meaning, all very innocent. Children could look at it and couldn't see anything funny in it. That's the thing. That that that that's the skill of it. You know? So, anyway, how are you getting on with your with your cold, Paul? Are you feeling a bit better now? No.
[01:24:51] Unknown:
Not too bad. I'm fine. We're we're an hour and 20 minutes in. I feel vastly improved. No. It's just I'm just bumbling along with the whole thing, really. So, no. It's not too bad. We don't need to talk about my bloody cold anymore. I'm bored with it. But, yeah. No. The, yeah, the food thing and all that kind of stuff. Someone's just also sent something through, and I was just I've just lost the link to it. Yeah. I think this is more fear porn or whatever. Tesco, Morrisons, and Aldi issue urgent Christmas food recall notices. And then it says, usually, getting your money back is easy. This is not about getting your money back. This is spooking the audience again, isn't it? Festive food lovers have been issued with a warning, a warning, after Tesco, Aldi, and other major supermarkets have been forced to urgently recall a range of Christmassy delights over fears they could be unsafe. Why? Why at Christmas? Why would they be unsafe?
It's just so bizarre. Whenever there there are these peak moments where there's a lot of unified energy around a thing, there's always some sort of drama, isn't there? To get you anxious all the time. The government have got to sort it out. I don't know whether I buy anything, in in other words, buy the stories that we're seeing. All I know is that we're gonna avoid buy we have to get a list of safe retailers of milk, because none of them I think all of those, are useless now. Tesco, Morrisons, and Aldi are all selling crap milk, you know, gates of hell milk, and, we have to, you know, not buy it. So, the raw milk's fantastic, but the logistics of me getting it all the time are an expense above and beyond what I would like to pay. Not the actual cost of it. I don't mind paying over the odds because it's definitely better milk, but it's the frequency with which I've got to go and buy it because it only really lasts a week. You're not supposed to freeze it as, what's his as the bollahazid farmer Mike was telling us. You just drink it. Otherwise, if you freeze it, you kill off all the bacterial positivity of the whole thing.
So I I almost like need a rotor. We need sort of 4 of us. And once a week, someone goes up to this place and does the milk run for everybody else or something like that. That's great. That would work. I'll just say, because it's funny. Your 15 miles,
[01:27:02] Unknown:
30 mile round trip to the farm, I'm the same. It's exactly the same with me, 30 mile round trip. And you do that and that I found the milk just the just lasts one day over a week. That's it. It just goes, and it stinks to high heaven after that. I've frozen the milk, but apparently, that that that as as you say, it, it kills all the bad stuff. But I wouldn't touch anything from the supermarkets. To me, it's gotta be raw milk. But, I found a farm within 20 minutes walk of my home that sells, organic eggs, and they they know the farm that I go to. And they said, unfortunately, we can't sell the raw milk because it's gotta be sold on the actual farm itself. You're not allowed to deliver it. You're not allowed to take it to anywhere else. You can ebike from the farm. What a ridiculous law. Stupid. Yep. It is. I mean, I could walk up to this farm. 20 minutes walk. Fantastic.
Nice bit of exercise. I could get my milk there once a week, but no. Yeah.
[01:28:04] Unknown:
I know. It's fun. Yeah. Isn't it fun? Now a serious thing. Let's do a a little serious thing. There's a bloke over here. I think he might have been knighted called Niall Ferguson. He wrote a book. He wrote many books. He's a historian. He wrote a book on the Rothschilds.
[01:28:26] Unknown:
Have you ever heard of him, Patrick or Paul or Eric? You were talking about raw milk. I remember that there was a law passed. I think it was in the forties that, the Rothschilds were behind getting pasteurization of milk and other such things passed as, mandatory. That's where the whole raw milk thing went went wrong Yeah. In your country. No. I haven't. What what what's the name of the book again and who wrote it?
[01:28:56] Unknown:
He's called Niall, n I a, double l, Ferguson. Apparently, he's a, sorry, British American conservative historian, who is the Milbank family senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a senior fellow at the Belfer Institution and a senior fellow at the Belfer Center For Science and International Affairs at Harvard University. So he's credentialed up to his bushy eyebrows, I guess. I think he's an absolute ass. I don't care how many credentials he's got. He's he's he's, he's also a gift, I think, in the sense that, you know, when you come across someone and every single thing that they say, you disagree with all of it, like, really strongly, vehemently. Yeah. Well, this is one of these for me, this is one of these guys. His book on the Rothschilds will be a joke because it was paid for by the Rothschilds to write it. Right. So it will be literally useless. This sort of basic observation by these oaths that they don't realize they're in the tradition of the paid for court historian, and that because they've studied all this stuff, they must be telling it straight. All they're doing is studying all the books written by other court historians for the past x 100 years, which at the time were also policed by the same force as it's just complete nonsense and piffle.
But there is an article over on uns.com. I think it originally appeared on the Occidental Observer, by, Morgan Jones, and this got published or republished on December 22nd, so a few days before Christmas. And it's called a more beautiful future, the, a more beautiful future, the world according to Niall Ferguson. I'm not gonna go through the whole thing, but I'll just give you a flavor of it. First of all, you know that there was this historian, American historian called Daryl Cooper, who was interviewed by Tucker Carlson a couple of months ago, and he really laid into Churchill. Do you anybody familiar with that?
[01:30:52] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:30:54] Unknown:
Yes. Yep. Yeah. It's definitely worth looking up everybody. Daryl Cooper and, Tucker Carlson. It's quite a lengthy interview, but he has a go at him. And everything he said, according to my research is is true. Of course, Perkins says he's all rotten people. But the way he does it is he demeans Cooper because Cooper's apparently not a proper historian. This is sort of we also got it from the guy and I think it's Andrew Johnson, the guy that wrote a a really brilliant, biography of Napoleon and did a great TV series about Napoleon. So I'm not saying that these people don't write good stuff, but they whenever they resort to their credentials, oh, he's not credentialed. I know I'm dealing with a jackass.
It's as if normal working men can't work things out. You can't work it out. You didn't go to the school that I went to. This is part of the asshole system or the asshole system in Britain that's reigned for an awful long time. It's not that these people are not bright. They are. They've got intellectually a few marks more than the rest of us. But they become sort of arrogant and condescending, and therefore, practically useless to the nation because they just become mouthpieces for the payees, in this in his case, the Rothschilds and all sorts of other stuff. But I've gotta quote you just a few things that he says. It's not just about Churchill.
He he's got all these sorts of odd things about well, they're not just odd about race. They're absolutely bizarre, and they're fundamentally wrong. And he's like, in in the comments section on this, someone said that he's basically just spitting out the Open Society scoring points of George Soros and other commies. So Niall, if you get to hear this, you're an oaf, and you're a preening Scottish oaf as well. So I never want to meet him, because he he's linguistically very skilled and all that kind of stuff, but I just disagree with him. I'd never get anywhere with him at all, I don't think. But it's about race that I wanna talk about.
Oh, yeah. Basically, Churchill did right in going to war with Italy, you know, because it was, yeah. Okay. And I just think these people are so much short of a picnic. They've only read what they've read. I could be wrong. You might say, oh, I've read all that stuff. Because they didn't go to university, it's it's to be dismissed wrong. It's it's the little guy, I think, throughout history, you've got a tradition of it in America. Right? All your inventors and stuff like the Wright brothers, we've got a tradition of it over here. It's but over here it's never championed.
All the really great stuff that's being done, that's been done by little groups of individuals that have just gone off over here and just done it like the guy that created the hovercraft. I've forgotten his name. These people just go, oh, I think I'll do that. Or Eric Glazway was yeah. There's just guys that just go, oh, I figured out there's a problem here. I'm gonna work it out and they just solve it. They don't like people like that. These people don't like it because they're intellectuals, and I'm gonna requote, Fred Dibner, because it's a great quote. Men in overalls built this country, men in suits destroyed it, and that's the same for America as well as it is here and probably everywhere.
Yeah. Well, yeah, they are. They're impractical preening sort of look at me and my credentials. Yeah. Wow. Great, mate. You're gonna be some use on the desert island. Right? So it's a joke. But listen to this. He says, he's got 2 wives. Right? He's got he's I don't know much about him, but I just got it from this interview. He was married once, I think, to a white lady. He had 2 children by them by his first wife. Now he's married to an African lady or a lady of African descent, who is Somali. How about that? And one of the quotes that's highlighted here in the article is this is from Ferguson. He says, god bless all the children who are produced by mixed unions. I'll read the whole thing through and then we can comment. It's not too long. He said, god bless all the children who are produced by mixed unions.
They're the future, and it's a beautiful future. Wrong. They actually look better on the whole than people of pure race. Oh my, Gideon. With no dis and then brackets. With no disrespect to my white children by my first marriage who are also very beautiful, close brackets. This is the future. We can't avoid the we can't avoid this future unless we want to go extinct as a species. Why? Because population collapse is a reality for a whole bunch of ethnic subgroups. I've never heard such crap ever. I mean, it's just complete bilge. And I'm sure, the children from his first marriage are gonna be thrilled to think that, that the race mix children he's produced with his second wife are to him more beautiful.
I mean, honestly, a more disgusting thing for for a man to say disqualifies him as a man as far as I'm concerned. I'm serious. You know, I won't pay the guy out in shirt buttons. He's a joke. It's sick is that to me. You know? Do I sound a little bit animated about it? I am because it's repulsive. Then he goes and he says, there will be mass migration. There will be miscegenation. Another one, Niall. There will be more brown people. Not either one. Keeping Africans out of the rest of the world is a doomed enterprise. No. It isn't. The only question that interests me, yeah, like we care, is how do you make the assimilation process as successful for every African as it has been for my wife? That must be possible. What? They've all gotta find a university professor on a big gig. He's a goofy idiot.
And, I the thing that struck me when I saw this thing is I don't know if he's familiar what with what happened, in Haiti during the French revolution. I've mentioned it here before, but I'm gonna mention it again, and it's a salutary lesson to everybody and people need to be aware of this in history, and you won't be aware of it because it's rarely if ever mentioned. When the French revolution was kicking off and this liberation of the peasants crap was running around in people's heads, it reached Haiti and Haiti at the time was a really well run European colony. People got poo poo Well, we can even comment about that. There's all sorts of benefits to colonialism, which even Thomas Sowell points out, but, of course, they won't quote him either.
However, the main components of the island were, white Europeans that that ran the administration and ran it well, blacks from Africa, and a mulatto population, which were obviously the result of they produced all these beautiful, creatures that Ferguson's talking about. When this idea of, freedom reached, Haiti, it kicked off and released a lot of tensions. And what happened was that hellish warfare broke out. So much so that Napoleon had to send, I think it was 30,000 men there on boats. This is whilst he's fighting all these other wars. Right? He had to send 30,000 men out, 19,000 of which died. They died from jungle fever.
But what actually occurred was that the mulattoes killed all the whites apart from, I think, about a dozen that managed to escape and get to New Orleans. The other thing that they don't mention is they also killed all the blacks. They killed everyone. This is not talked about. Any chance that Hollywood would like to make a movie about this, please? Hello? Mel Gibson, where are you when we need you? These things are just swept on these forces of nature are not to be dealt with by some goofy self, egotistical numpty like Ferguson, who's not a practical man. He's lived his entire life in books writing, you know, getting great fees and getting all these other stuff, just repeating stuff that we've had to listen to for 100 of years and that produces rotten fruit.
Rotten fruit. I also think I could be making this I don't know if he was an alumni of the oh, he is. Yeah. He was a visiting lecturer at the London School of Economics, which means he knows nothing about economics. Nothing. A cocky northerner. Well, we need to be. He didn't know anything about it because it's not complicated. And, of course, there his his things about the economy are, well, we need it. It's always this thing you need them because the economy and everything's gonna blah blah blah. Now we just need to change the banks you owe. But they can't countenance that because he gets paid for by the super usurers. So it's an idea that's never even gonna occur in his limited scope. He's very precise and highly intelligent. I give you all of that, and you've got a vast array of resources.
Right. Top, well done to you. Fantastic. But he's still a twat. Just thought I'd get that in. I don't know if I can say that on air, but I did. So it's a spectacularly interesting article. I'd recommend it highly, for you to go and spend some time reading, and reading the comments which are just brilliant, very much in line with what I've just ranted about a little bit here. You're never gonna see a proper rebuttal from these people because they think that we're only supposed to listen to them and that if you're a peasant, you couldn't possibly know anything that they don't already know, and therefore, if you're suggesting something different because you're not credentialed, your opinion is valueless.
Well, for their perspective and because they're in charge, it becomes valueless because they make sure it doesn't get any pub public traction. It's it's quite remark remarkable. Here's the first comment from, DJ. There's no this is true as well even though I've given him airtime here. There's no reason for anyone to know this guy's name. He's strictly a product of the Jewish choke hold of media, which gives him a platform because he spreads their message. True? For this, he is well paid. They even knighted him for it. But they giveth and they taketh away. If he even went off if he ever goes off script, he'd quickly get Michael Jackson. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but he would he'd be Michael Jackson. Right? I definitely recommend it. It's one of these things that really gets me. There's no solutions other than the ones they're gonna propose, None.
And, as a species, we're gonna go, oh, boy. Oh, boy. Yeah. I'm sure the Eskimos would agree with him. Oh, yeah. We're all good to go.
[01:41:04] Unknown:
You know? Who's bothered about species? I'm bothered about my race. That man is metaphorically urinating on the graves of our ancestors. Oh, he's repulsive. Yeah. He is. And to me Absolutely. For saying and he's also urinating on the graves of the ancestors of immigrants because he's destroying their culture as well, as well as our culture. So it's it's it's it's a double edged sword. It really is. It is. I'm and I respect people. I respect people's culture. And as I've said many times, you know, you don't go to South Africa to see Zulus doing their tribal dancing. And they say, oh, no. We're gonna have a Scott Scottish Highland dancing here because it's multicultural. No. You go there to see zoo Zulus doing their cultural dancing, and you'd be welcomed as a guest. I'm sure you would be.
This is the thing. This is what angers me. They're destroying culture, and this is what communists do all the time. I mean, when you look at the former Soviet Union, what they did to the Lithuanians, what they did to, other satellite states of this USSR, they they Mhmm. Tried their hardest to wipe them out. That's why they moved masses and masses of Russians into Lithuania who ran everything.
[01:42:20] Unknown:
And Some there's some friend. You've got to I I really would recommend uns.com. I would recommend it as a fantastic shorthand way to get hold of some really high quality articles that are pulled in from a multitude of sites. Some of them are very vitriolic and maybe not, but some are very considered. Some are very academic. It's got a good blend. But all of them are basically positing the the voice that shouldn't be heard, our voices. The the the voices, really, I would suggest, with far less error in them. We're not free of error. I accept all that. Quite prepared to correct things, but we're much, much closer to the truth, compared to these peddlers of guff.
I mean, there's some of the comments are fantastic. Yeah. Next one. Stupid sexual pervert, corrupt, incoherent. This detritus parrots the ludicrous and repugnant lies from the Soros open society. Yes. Absolutely. Ferguson's views are one long apologetic used to justify his penchant for bestiality. That's a bit heavy. And they go on. So as I said, some of them are a little bit vivid. I have to stop my words. Right? So you're gonna have to cope with it. It's all part of the growing up process. But it's it's fascinating. The the other thing was it's like I said, I I I I was aware of him, and I I never wanted to read his book about the Rothschilds, but I will if someone knows that there is a fantastically useful section in it about the aftermath after the battle of Waterloo.
Because, again, it's the economic aftermath of that battle that's far more important in many ways than the battle itself. I've mentioned it here before. So I have heard I can't actually quote I think Mike King has done some great stuff on this. He's probably got chapter and verse on it, and I'd love to get Mike on sometime. I've only ever spoken to him once. It's probably about 5 or 6 years ago. He probably didn't know me from Adam. But people may well be aware that Ross Charles stationed a high speed communications horse relay system from the battlefield back to London, and he also had his own boat ready to go.
And as soon as his messengers saw the outcome of the battle, I think it was about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, they knew that Napoleon was done. They flew back as fast as they could through as many high speed horses with this message. And it got to Lord Rothschild a full day before the message got back to the, British military or the government here in the UK. And, the battle was on a Sunday. So on the Monday, they didn't find out until late Monday, but the stock exchange was up Monday morning, and they prepped for this completely. What occurred was, he had agents stationed all across the exchange, and they began to sell his stock. He gave the signal to his agents to start sell all of the stock held by the Rothschilds.
The other traders, knowing that he was a big player on the floor, knew that he knew something, and they deduced falsely, of course, which was what they were supposed to do, that we had lost that war and that their stock was shot and that Napoleon was coming and it was all over. So they began to sell. And as the selling swept through the floor, the prices of everything dropped, kept kept dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping. And then another team that he had in place, Next Signal, once they dropped, bought everything up that they could. As fast as they possibly could, they started to buy. And at the end of the day, according to I think it's figures from Mike King, that organization of usurers for whom Ferguson works owned 63% of the entire economic base of the British Empire.
2 thirds of it. That was the end of any democracy or government representation in this country. It began with the Bank of England in 16/94. We go about a 130 years through, 120 years. That's all it took, and it's over. It's done. The board of the lot, lock stock and barrel. That's where the power of the city comes from. So the idea that people could then choose and do things is not possible. I doubt if now if he has something in his book that goes into that in my new detail, and he ought to have, didn't he have access to the Rothschild family records on this? They would have kept a record of this, wouldn't they? You know, for future attacks in stock markets, no doubt, which they have conducted since 18/15. Why is that not in there? I'm guessing it's not in there. I'm just guessing. Call me a a maniac for thinking such a thing, but, it's very, very important is that stuff.
It reminds me of It reminds me of a book
[01:46:53] Unknown:
that my grandfather said he used to have. It was called I I've got it right here, the name of it. It's called the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, dedicated monopolists by by this guy named Albert O'Kelsey. It's very rare book now. It was done in 1958 about their mixed lineage, how they're all intertwined, these these two families. 1 in America, the other in Britain, but they're all intermarried, and it tracks that. But it's definitely worth looking into how these these people got their wealth because it affects us to this day. For instance, there's a bank, and I've I've read this from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica in its section on anti or no. On Zionism.
Mhmm. And in it, they talk about this bank set up in Berlin by the Rothschilds in the early 1800 called bleach rotor, which bleach rotor went up until the 19 fifties, maybe even into the sixties. And George Soros was a a a key employee of it up until that point, and then it morphed into what is now known as BlackRock. So these if you can trace these banks back to their source, like you're you're saying, if you trace the the, Bank of England and then the Rothschild hostile takeover, you you understand a little bit more of the minutiae of history for that matter because the people who pay the soldiers determine the war. Yep.
[01:48:40] Unknown:
Yes. If you do not follow the money in history, you're not studying history because that's all it's about. All the actions are a result of money being provided to enable them to take place. Who provided it and under whose authority? So they circumvent the the authority of our elected governments because they've been allowed to by corrupting the governments with money. It's not rocket science. It's really simple stuff. But, of course, I'm an O Fish peasant, but the O Fish peasant explanation is true. It is simple. It's easy to understand. It's just not known. Again and again. I'm glad you mentioned BlackRock because I've got a clip here.
I've, somebody put this up, I think, yet again on the Telegram group. I'm sorry that I didn't know who it was, but thank you very much. If you're not on the Telegram group, it's very lively. Some brilliant post there. Again, I wanna thank everybody that posts some fantastic intelligent stuff on there and some great it saves me having to go all over Telegram to to pick things up, and it becoming more and more of a of a resource for me personally and hopefully everybody else that's there. Somebody put this one minute clip up. Someone talking about Larry Fink and BlackRock. This is, earlier this month. Just listen to this. What's a coincidence that you think about a lot? I think about how a lot of the banks that received bailouts back in 2008
[01:49:54] Unknown:
were heavily invested in by, by BlackRock. And that the person that the US government put in charge of managing those bailouts was, Larry Fink, the the CEO of of of BlackRock. And also how one of the people who's credited with at least a good chunk of the popularity of subprime mortgage backed securities, which is the type of investment that caused that collapse in the first place, was Larry Fink, the the CEO of BlackRock. That's a weird coincidence. I mean, it almost would look as if the US government paid Larry Fink to give himself taxpayer money as a reward for destroying the world economy. I mean, it it would it would look that way if it weren't such a coincidence.
[01:50:45] Unknown:
There you go. So Larry Fink is the current direct descendant of this jiggery pokery in financial in financial circles, and there will be those families we just mentioned behind him. He will be paying obedience to them too. Nothing new there, but it's a good clip, I thought.
[01:51:07] Unknown:
No. Nothing new there. Nothing new at all? I just posted a a link to to the at least the Wikipedia articles about the bleach rotor banking family that that was the age of Rothschild. Right. I can see that. It became known as Bismarck's banker, or he became known the the bleach bleach rotor patriarch. And then in, what was it? 6 it says, that George Soros was there from 1963 to 1973. Nice. And then it went on to become Blackstone and Corsair Capital in 2015.
[01:51:52] Unknown:
A nest of honorable people full of integrity in the realm of finance. It's enough to make me cough. I'm doing that all the time. What are the other articles on this on UNS at the moment as well, which is just next to it. Maybe they've just been selected because of their thematic thing. It's also due with the money thing is It remind why did chip why did okay. Sorry, Patrick. Go on. Please speak. I'm just gonna say it reminds me of of when I was working
[01:52:19] Unknown:
for the for the, Wall Street court reporting company, and we were dealing with the 2,008 Lehman Brothers versus JPMorgan Chase case Mhmm. Of the the whole collapse of the mortgage market. And the whole the whole collapse had a lot to do with holdings by Lehman Brothers in the Soviet Union and Ukraine and Russia, which is very interesting because that's that's where this war is taking place, and it's been kind of a a stalemate of the 2nd World War ever since that, you know, the end of the 2nd World War. I mean, that place that that whole area is it's it's just if you really look into the history of it, there's a lot of intrigue going on there, and you'd need you'd need a lot of time to look into it. But the layman's whole You do. I know, Soviet
[01:53:16] Unknown:
Union. I mean, I think we've got we've got the principle nailed down, Patrick. You know, when we've talked about Hudson's work and year of jubilee, and we're dealing with this mature situation where the creditor class, I e, the usurers, have been in charge of things for far too long, and they're able to maintain it because they've got the next level of minions, I e, government, completely addicted to the cash flow that they give them. And a case in point is Winston Churchill. And one of the articles also, you'll see nearby on Uns at the moment, this is from December 20th, by Patrick Cleburne. Good first name, Patrick.
Why did Churchill have Britain fight on after summer 1940? It's bad news. It's a long article and definitely worth reading, but the bit I wanted to there's a link through to a book which I hadn't heard of written by an English guy called David Lauf. Now David Lauf has been dismissed by Niall Ferguson as an because he didn't have any credentials. Basically, the guys without credentials are the ones telling the truth. The most credentials are a waste of time, a complete waste of space because they've got to cover that. They may have been great when they started off young, but they've taken the money, and now they've got to cover their intellectual backside for the rest of their lives. Pathetic. What a waste of brains. Really, because they're very bright people, but I'm afraid they've just signed up for the wrong team. And they just talk guff. It's just got so many holes in it. And the only way people don't find out about the holes is these people are never allowed to be interrogated and to have their stupid ideas exposed. Not that I cared. I'm just pointing it out. Anyway, there's a link through to a book by a guy called, as I said, David Loff, called no more champagne, Churchill and his money. And I've just ordered the book today. I found a sort of secondhand copy at World of Books for 6 quid, so it should be with me in a week's time. I don't know how I'm gonna find time to read it, but I really wanna get stuck into it. But let me just read you a little blurb about the book because it's it's not something that would be new to you here, but this is I wasn't aware that someone had done such amazing research on it. Meticulously researched by a senior private banker, now turned historian. He wasn't a credited banker. He didn't work in the big firms or something like that. Right? No more champagne reveals for the first time the full extent of the iconic British war leader's private private struggle to maintain a way of life instilled by his upbringing and expected of his public position.
Lof uses Churchill's own most private records many never researched before, so this is the Irving approach, therefore sound, to chronicle his family's chronic shortage of money, his own extravagance, and his recurring losses from gambling or trading in shares and currencies. Churchill tried to keep himself afloat by borrowing to the hilt, putting off bills, and writing all over the place when all else failed. He had to he had to ask family or friends to come to the rescue. Yet within 5 years of the war, he had taken advantage of his worldwide celebrity to transform his private fortunes with the same ruthlessness as he waged war, reaching 1945 with today's equivalent of £3,000,000 in the bank. His lucrative war memoirs were still to come.
And, there's also a 1 hour presentation by David Loff on YouTube, which is I I watched the first 10 minutes. It's it's possibly a bit dry, but it's the kind of thing I'm gonna get a bit giddy about. One of the things he said in the opening remarks is that Churchill kept everything. His rec his archives have just got everything in it, every receipt, every note he wrote to a bank for everything, from the smallest things like his milk bill and stuff like this and servants bill through to all the money that he was losing. And the interesting thing is the amount of money he was lent to bail him out. And as soon as that happens, you haven't got a guy that can represent you. He's a guy that has to represent the people he owes money to, and that's exactly what he did.
And because of it, this shameful oath, of course, who, Ferguson defends to the hilt. No. He had to do this. You see? Because you can't have nationalism because, you know, the species and all this other complete twaddle. He's the most ruinous individual that we've had, in my view. You know? I know Eric probably agrees as well. It's difficult to sort of argue against it, I think, once you've got the information, but it's a it's a terrible indictment. But fortunately, for us, David Loft turned up and did this sort of financial forensic research, and that's where the truth is. It's always in there. It's always in the money. It's all you have to look at. You have to learn how to look at it and go, if this guy owes that group of people money, they've got him by the short and curlies. That means they got the country by the short and curlies because this guy can't lose face. They won't. They'll then betray their own people. They do betray their own people Yeah. Because they're beholden to the usurers.
Ta da. I know we're only repeating the same old same old, but there we go. Yeah.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Thrilling. It's not very Christmas spirit y, is it? If you're quite a surprise. Pays the pipe of course the tune. It always has been and always will be. Always will be. And and it's actually their job. My attitude is the government's job is to keep people in complete ignorance over the financial situation. Their job is to actually rob us to pay that bunch of usury scammers. That's it. Full stop. End of. And this is why I don't like government. A hot stone government. No. Don't you like them, Eric? Don't think they're any good. Don't Well Don't like them? I couldn't I couldn't eat a whole government, but I might eat be out of you know? But, no, seriously, when you look at everybody that likes government. Just wait. Hang on. Yeah. I I I like the government. I think that's what we lack.
[01:58:55] Unknown:
Well, it starts with personal government, I think. I think it starts with individual government. I I really do. You've gotta govern your own mind, and the first part is to understand that authority structures lie to you. Anyway, we're coming to the end of the hour, and I wanna play one more song here. So we're we're we're leaving WBN at the top of the hour in about 3 minutes' time. I've got another little musical song. This is from England, another English song. I don't know whether you know this. It's called stop the cavalry by Jonah Louis. It's only got one bit in it that's Christmassy, but it's gone down as a sort of classic Christmas sort of thing. I haven't heard this one in years either. So we're gonna play out with this. We'll be back again same time next week, 3 PM US EST, 8 PM in the UK. If you wanna carry on listening, hop on over to paulenglishlive.com and connect either to, radiosoapbox.com, or if if you can, come on over to Rumble, and you can pester the other reprobates in there typing messages and this and that, if you fancy doing a bit of that. But we'll play you out with Jonah Louie for now. We're gonna carry on after this song. Thanks, everybody. Have a fantastic rest of Christmas season.
Merry Christmas to you all. We look forward to seeing you in the New Year, 2025. Oh, boy. Brace yourself. Here's Jonah Louie. Don't that warm the cockles of your heart. Lovely little tune. Oh, and this is another one, but we're not gonna play it just yet even though it wanted to play and did start playing. We're gonna play that one later on, actually, but that was Jonah Louie, stop the cavalry. And it became known as a Christmas song purely for those bells at the end that went on for about 5 seconds. Do you remember that one, Harry?
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. I do remember that one. Oh, we've gone back about 19 eighties, wasn't it? Nineties, something like that. I don't know. 19 8 a mere 45 years or something like a mere 40 years.
[02:03:33] Unknown:
Only yesterday, it seems like.
[02:03:36] Unknown:
But yeah. Yes. Crack a little too. It was a I can't quite have a cracker, wasn't it? It's not Slade. At least, Eric, it's not Slade. Right? Oh my god. Not that one. That that is torture. That is actual play that later for you just to cheer you up. So Oh, no. Thank you. Give me a headache. That will. But how how do Pete shop assistant stand it? Slade and wings, I think, must be the worst. You know? Oh god. Oh, John Lennon. That's another one I can't stand. Oh, he started me off there. Yeah.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
Yeah. But By the way, shout out shout out to everybody in Rumble. If you've got a record suggestion that's in the spirit of the season, send it through. Anything coral that's beautiful, it'll make our hearts melt. I'll be open to chat about that. I'll just Jethro Toll. Pick the If you think it would work. Yes.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
It might. It's a very unusual one. It's Jethro Toll. He did it in 1976 or 77. It's called Solstice Bell. Solstice Bells.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
Right. Okay. We'll we'll line that one up in a little while.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
As his real name. Don't like him much as a person, but he did do some good music.
[02:04:47] Unknown:
He did. Yeah. He did.
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Yes. And, of course, is that one I was talking about when he's on the phone today? That was from a film that, Andrew Lloyd Webber wrote. And I don't normally like Andrew Lloyd Webber stuff. The film was complete and utter doo doo. But the music by Perry Comer was Perry Comer sung it, did it very well. And it it you think it's a very old traditional, German tune, but it wasn't. It was written in the seventies. Yes.
[02:05:22] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You mentioned that earlier today, didn't you? Christmas dream, a song written by Andrew Lloyd Webber with lyrics by Tim Rice Pudding with with German lyrics by Andre Heller for the 1974 Columbia film, the Odessa file, which you said as a film's pants.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
It is. It's written by a Frederick Forsyth who actually lives up the road to me or used to. I don't know if he still does. He was a sheep farmer. Yes. As well as an author. Right. He used to sort of appear around various places in Hertfordshire. I don't know if he's still going. Has he croaked it yet? I don't know if he's still around. Who? Perry? A bit. No. No. Perry Folo croaked it a bit long ago, but I'm talking about Frederick Foolsall.
[02:06:04] Unknown:
Alright. I don't know. He might have done. He was I mean, he's a good chap, really. He's a staunch Britain, isn't he, from what I can recall? I mean, obviously, Perry Como shuffled off this model, Kyle, but have his jumpers, have his sweaters, his pullovers, whatever the he was noted for this wider range of jumpers that he used to wear, sweaters, pullovers. Do you remember that? Yes. Yes. I remember that. Yes. My mom loved Perry Como, but would always spend the first 30 seconds saying, oh, that's a lovely jump.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
And, when I was at school, we used to sing dirty words to his tune, but we won't go into that.
[02:06:40] Unknown:
No. Eric, I'm shocked. Moment.
[02:06:42] Unknown:
Yeah. So this Yeah. I got chucked out of assembly once because we sang Corn by Arne, and I would not repeat it on over here. And we had, because most of us at school where, fathers have been in World War 2, we had the army version, which, get out, boy. Don't see those disgusting words. You know? But I wouldn't repeat it.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
No? Well, maybe you'll have to do one of those Derek and Clive off air recordings. You'll have to do one of those.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Yes. Anyway, Frederick Forsyth is 86 years old, and, he's born in 1938. And, I don't know where he still is in Hertfordshire. Might do. Yes. I think he because, to say, he I think he was a sheep farm. Yeah. He was a sheep farmer. And, yes. Let's have a look. Yeah. No. No. I don't know. No. But, yes, it's it's but the the Odessa file, it's a typical, naughty Nazi film. You know? Oh, look. It's a naughty Nazis. And, when you look at it, it's, well, fantasy. That's it. Full stop, end of. Yeah. So, Yeah. Yeah. It was on I'll tell you it was on once. But have you that I just saw that Pericomo track. That is really nice, the way you sang it.
[02:08:12] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I found it. We'll do that a little bit later maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard it. It better be good. Otherwise, I I might have to cough. That's crap, actually. It's catchy. People keep calling them, but making me pick crap songs. Yeah. No. I'm sure it's not. That's the truth. I never thought it would come to this, though, Eric. I never thought it would come to me paying playing Perry Como tracks. What's happened to me?
[02:08:39] Unknown:
I don't know. Magic
[02:08:41] Unknown:
moment. The passing of time. Oh, I'm not sure. Shit. Shit. Shit. I don't Yeah. It was good. Very relaxed.
[02:08:48] Unknown:
Style. Yeah. Very underwriting.
[02:08:50] Unknown:
He was was. So relaxed, wasn't he? My mom said, oh, you just can't listen without falling asleep, which she thought was a good thing. She wasn't saying it was boring. She just said, he's so relaxed. I can't stay awake.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
I never liked Frank Sinatra. I I I thought he's a better actor than singer, actually. I because Frank Sinatra West sung off the note, and that really irritated me. He he was only good in the fifties.
[02:09:13] Unknown:
That's my thought.
[02:09:14] Unknown:
Well, apparently Oh, Frank. Frank Sinatra. Yeah. Yeah. Up until Well, I'm not I'm not a massive fan, but in the wee small hours is just such a fantastic ballad, and it's delivered so crystal clear. It's just a delight. It's like sound perfection when he enunciates every word. I'm quite into all that. Of course, it became common to not enunciate anything and to just grunt a lot. And that's got its own excitement and appeal. I'm not knocking it at all, but it's great to have that contrast with something so beautifully enunciated and very precise and very disciplined and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I know what I was gonna I know what I was gonna mention.
Christmas day TV, EGAD. Did you catch any of the, I mean, I it caught me. I I didn't switch this thing on. I I fell down the stairs on Christmas day morning, glad to have arrived without falling on my rear end on my brains and everything. And, there was a church thing on it, and it turns out that the now the archbishop of Canterbury has legged it, hasn't he? Because, because he's crap. Yeah? It was something like that, wasn't it? It was something to handle with the priest that was,
[02:10:31] Unknown:
kiddie fiddling.
[02:10:34] Unknown:
That's right. And he'd known about it, and he never bothered to raise it up. He thought he'd get away with it and all that kind of stuff, which was a bit a bit naff, really, of him. I'm being mild here. It's just sort of typically sort of pathetic. But, there was a so what had happened was that the church service, I think, ended up moving to York Minster, but then there was another one on the TV, and I started watching this. And this is the description I can only watch it, but it says, a joyful celebration of Christmas from Halifax Minster, that's in Yorkshire, with choir, brass band, and, carols, led by the vicar of Halifax minister, canon Hillary Barber.
As soon as I read that, I went, that's not a church. Sorry. You can't have ladies as priests. Forget that. And and then he gets but and Bishop, Smither Prasadam also sells Papa Doms at her spare time. I watched this sort of farce. Right? And I I just thought this is so, it's like to undermine the whole thing. The thing that really got me was the fact that people had gone along and supported this travesty, and really the congregation is just thick as 2 short planks. You can't have a woman priest. There's never been one. I'm just gonna be adamant. I'm a pain in the ass about it. No. It's There's never ever been one. If they've ever said they are 1, they're just completely invalid. You can't be 1. So ladies, if you're in the priesthood, you're not. You never were. It doesn't matter if a bunch of old feeble minded men allowed you in because they've been told to through wokeism, you're not in it.
You're out. And that wasn't even a Christmas carol service because you can't have people in it that are not Christians. Tough titty. Read your own bloody book. And I was saying this while while my sons were there, I said these people are just complete assholes. They can be persuaded into anything. Oh, no. We're all good. No. We're not. And you could feel it as a vibe on the TV. The whole thing lacked that classical European thing that it needs to have, which is what it's all about. It's all about that. It's about us as a people celebrating this. Whatever you may think about it, the fact is that people used to get together and do this thing and it was us. That's the key and vital component of the whole thing. Even if the singing's crap, it doesn't matter. It's as long as it's us, it's genuine. If it's not, it's it's middling about with other people and women running around pretending to be priests, sad cows, and they need to be talked to like this. They're completely goofy.
Oh, no. I'm, you know, I'm Betty I'm Bishop Betty, are you? I can't think about ways of describing it. If you think this has been sexist, it's not. It's I'm conforming to the law. It's the absolute law about these things, and there's a jolly good reason for it. Anyway, I just thought I would mention that because, actually sorry, Patrick.
[02:13:23] Unknown:
Sorry. I don't mean to step on you, but I I I can attest to this as a Catholic. We don't have women priests, and we never will. It was never part of the apostolic tradition from the time of Christ onwards to have women priests neither before Christ even were there women priests. Like, you know, it wasn't Moses, you know, Moses and Aaron. It wasn't Susan and Betsy. It it definitely was different. I mean, if you want something different, I've watched instead, I I rather I listen to, but you could watch it, the the mass the pope did down in the Vatican where he opened up the holy doors, which they do this every jubilee year, which is every 25 years.
And they brick up the holy door after the the jubilee year, and then they open it again. They take the brickwork down and then then open up the holy doors. And the the meaning of it is basically to open and open up and forgive debts. And the whole thing we're talking about with Michael Hudson, for have a jubilee, forgive debts. The pope he gets he gets a lot of, bad propaganda, I think. And but he's the only European leader or, for that matter, any leader that has any sort of quote that's talking against usury. And it doesn't get any publicity for it because nobody pays attention to that kind of thing. I know. But I gotta tell you, Patrick, I'm highly suspicious of him. Right? I I understand that. But at the same time They're all flawed.
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They're all flawed. And I think when you see it when you see them intimately tell a truth, then, yeah, great. But overall, the overall context is warped in all of them. I'm I'm just going to this Church of England. That's my take. Sure. The Church of England thing, apparently, a row has erupted as archbishop of York is accused of peddling empty words. Stephen cut I I caught some of this. Somebody called Stephen Cottrell. It's just complete guff. They're they're just the wettest, most useless people. They're not in the Church of England because they're talking stuff that's outside of it. They've introduced their own little fan club and their own little habits and their little hobbies, and you're all included. You're not. Tough. No. But I want all these people to be included. You can't.
You can't. There's no instruction to do it. Who do you think you are? I know we're gonna rewrite it because we know better. You don't. You're stupid men who spent far too long studying the book in minute detail and intellectualized it all and ended up with something that's got no heart in it and it's not true to the law. It's just dead. So, I mean, my take has always been the way I sort of describe it is if they do that, it's not a church. If there's a woman priest, it's not a church. It can't be because you've got you've put a woman there, play acting at being a priest. She isn't. I don't care what she knows. She can't do it. I'm not interested in the slightest.
And then they think it's an intellectual thing. We defeat you with logic. No. It's got nothing to do. I can't even be bothered. I won't even, you know, waste my time in it. Really, really silly. There's there's a little article. Anyway, there's many articles about the about this. It says Stephen Cottrell at York will effectively become temporary leader of the church in England next month after the resignation of the archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, but he has already faced calls to quit himself. In fact, he's been shot. The bishop of Newcastle has launched a withering attack on the this gets even better. I've got to read it. It's so funny. The bishop of Newcastle has launched a withering attack on the archbishop of York after his Christmas day sermon suggesting it amounted to nothing more than empty words.
Empty words. The the Bishop of Newcastle is Helen Ann Hurley. It's like a it's just like a zoo. It's like a zoo. It's irrelevant. I mean, she thinks she's not I mean, they're just forget it. Forget it. It's just complete nonsense. It's just this complete freak show of people who are so out of whack, all covering their backsides with all this guff. I have no idea how they could possibly do it. They must obviously get a nice vestry, pawns around in some rocket suit and everything, and think that they're saying profound things. It's absolute twaddle. You hear more profound things down the pub from people that are drunk than you do from these goofballs. Anyway, oh, I feel better. Actually, it really cheered me up Christmas morning. I came down, saw that, I just started ranting. After about 10 seconds, my energy went right up. I thought this is good. What I need to do is have a good go. I have a good pop up. So there we go. Why not? Yeah. But isn't it fun? Isn't it?
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Yeah. But do you remember stars on Sunday? I didn't mean to cut across you there, but do you remember stars on Sunday? Because it's always people doing, goldfish impersonations. And, there are people that never go anywhere near the church until the cameras turn up, and it starts on Sunday. And I remember seeing it, and I was on almost on the floor laughing at the way these people were overacting singing, putting all efforts into singing when they weren't. They just looks as if they're taking off a goldfish. Yeah. Yeah. I I
[02:18:35] Unknown:
I that's one complaint that I have at at, churches is you get these people that are involved in the music that think it's a it's it's their turn to perform. It's their turn to throw a concert for everybody, and they're entertainers rather than worship you know, actually being there with reverence and respect for what's going on. And it becomes about them. And it's like, well, you may as well be, you know, singing karaoke at the bar on Saturday night instead, you know, for the amount of attention that you wanna get from it because that's what it ends up being. It's, you're seeking applause, and that's not the place for it.
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No. I just don't get what's so difficult about you will add nothing to the law, and you'll take nothing away from it. What's sort is that really difficult to understand? To me, that's so easy that a child can understand it, and therefore, children should be in charge of the church.
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I'm
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a citizen, wouldn't it? Well, they would. Didn't Jesus say, you've gotta come to me with the attitude of a child? Well, these people have lost that. They've they've they've disappeared up their own orifices, and it's all about stressing around, dressed up with all these things around their neck and droning on about stuff and not being able to speak to the common man, which is what counts, which is where the real force of it all lies. It's where the love lies. It's where the community connection lies, and it's where the whole thing needs to be industrialized. It means it's like it's almost like an engineering meeting. It needs it's Faye. The whole thing is wet. It's disgusting. And, you know, there is this there's this line that's been running around for years, which what I'm talking about now addresses this. I've always partly agreed with this. I think the background reasoning is wrong where they say that Christianity was created by Jews to turn Europeans into wimps. Well, the first bit's wrong, but it has turned Europeans into wimps, the organized church has, because it become about being part of this lovey dovey, clap happy, you know, hippie Jesus shit is an insult. It's an insult. It's an insult.
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It wouldn't it would it became separated from the state is the big problem. And the state now is is, you know, transgressing all of all of the the church's laws that was put down by God, by Christ himself. So Yep. When you have that sort of divorce, yeah, it's gonna be silly and goofy because there's no enforcement of of these laws that and and everyone becomes a hypocrite at that point.
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And they all get to change them. They go, oh, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be bishop now so I can change things. No. No. You don't need to do that. Yeah. Your job is to be the maintainer of, of the law. That's it. It's not rocket science. There was something that came up on Ria's show, recently, with Katie, Daley, who's been talking about the number of laws. You know? And it's a key point. There's about 729 in total, but it was a lot. It isn't. It's absolutely nothing. You don't even need to know all those. The 10 commandments are good for 95% of everything. They're just about oh, and I know it's quite oh, what's this? But it of course, the impression of it has been generated in people that this is silly old stuff that doesn't apply. But the fact that people are not applying it is to a great degree the reason why we're in the trouble that we're in.
It's very difficult. I I can't sort of disabuse people of their what I think are rightfully slightly repulsed emotions around churches. I have them all the time. I don't like them. I don't like them because of what they are, not what they're supposed to be. What they're supposed to be is a place like this. I only supposed to be a communication space like this. I only laugh when you mention Katie because, of her description of, Christmas decorations on the left. God. I don't wanna go into that.
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Eric Eric might find it.
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Oh, you would. You'd be right about Eric's yeah. We'll have to get I yeah. Well, it's to do with I can't remember the name of the religious culture was talking about, but there was a sect. They had this horrific practice where the males would self mutilate themselves.
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Oh, how nice.
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Oh, it gets worse. Right? So they would chop their bits off and, carry them around or something. I'm I'm Patrick, fill in the gaps because I didn't catch the whole thing. It was enough of an an odd idea. Put me off my sausages tomorrow. I know. It gets with tomorrow. Yeah. So listen. It's gonna ruin you Christmas forever, everybody. So this spoiler alert, Christmas trees, you're never gonna be able to look at them the same light after this. So I'd if you know the details, just add in after this. Christmas trees. But the gist of it manhood. Yep. They would hang their manhood on the branches of the tree, which were the baubles, which is why you have those balls on Christmas trees.
Christmas tree image ruined for you? Good. It certainly is. Yes. Yes. It certainly has been. Destroyed. Totally destroyed that one, isn't it? The idea that anybody would even do that is terrifying that people would actually do that because some, you know, dopey priest wanted to do it to just basically wage war on the souls of his so called country congregation. Sick bastards. Really. Nothing. It's just sick. It's sick. Appropriate. Absolutely. And, that's what you just need a bit of northern pragmatism about these things. The people who do that sort of stuff just need twatting, and, we've got to get back to doing a bit of that. I still keep coming back to that quote from Hitler where he was talking to Goebbels. He said, I don't know I've mentioned it before, and I don't know who they were talking about. He said, we've got to knock his teeth out. He's one of those if we don't we're never gonna get his attention till we've knocked some of his teeth out. That was the gist of it. I thought it's true, actually.
Maybe that maybe that applies to Niall Ferguson. Maybe he needs a few teeth knocking out. He ready now, Niall, to understand what's going on.
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My my granddaughter has Well, I am violent today. It's not a fucking it's a bit of peace, is it? I don't know what's come over me. That's right. My granddad is a saying, and it's a bit crude, and he say, he wants a bag of what shit over his head. And I think that's he used to say to all the politicians, they didn't like. So when he saw a politician he didn't like, he wants a bag of what what shit over his head. You know? So he just actually I mean, that you know what? When you said that, I immediately thought, how would you get it hot? That's right.
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It's a replace. It's a replace. Volume. If you bring it in here, mate, and it's cold, we can heat it up for
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you. I want a campaign for someone to sneak sneak into the White House, sneak into the House of Commons, and put whoopee cushions filled with gravy onto the seats. Now that would be fun, wouldn't it? Can you imagine that?
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But I I can imagine that a little bit. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I can amend a trial afterward.
[02:25:19] Unknown:
Yes. But you you look at the House of Lords. I mean, it's a DOS house, isn't it? That's all it is really. It's a DOS house where they get was it We're gonna have to get the place tidied up, Eric.
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We're gonna have to make it null and void. I don't know what I mean, there's so much fear porn floating around at the moment. Maybe some of it's got to come true, and it's gonna be really, really tough. Cliff High, who I listen to intermittently and go along with some of his things and other ones, I go, well, I ain't got really time for all this. It's not that I I don't doubt his integrity. Sometimes I just don't kinda see that it is necessary. About Bitcoin.
[02:25:54] Unknown:
He he really has some interesting things to say about that sort of thing that I What was it? Go on. Interesting. What's the theory? Patrick, please inform us. The theory was that, what was his name? Sato or whatever. The guy that supposedly created Satoshi. Yeah. Yep. Nakamoto Satoshi or whatever his name was that it wasn't really him that No. The actual creator of Bitcoin is Alan Greenspan of the Federal Reserve fame Yep. As the chairman. Mhmm. And he and Yeah. He had he had some really good advice back in the day to invest in Bitcoin and and these different cryptocurrencies and because look what what's happened. I even though, you know, it is a a racket.
It's it's about the only thing in town right now for international exchange of of goods. The swift swift has gone kaput more or less if for for trade between east and west hemispheres. So the the only thing left is this cryptocurrency market. And he, yeah, he had a lot of a lot of good things to say about that. I remember him talking quite a lot. And another guy that was his protege, he was this guy named Bix Weir. I think he's still around too. I used to follow them.
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Yeah. Well, look. We we know
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I I don't think there's anything different about Bitcoin to any other sorts of bubble or whatever. No. No. It's the same thing as SWIFT or any of these other things. It's a it's a scam. But at the same time, it's the only thing in town for
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for doing that. That's often the case. Shipping gold. Yeah. The the problem always with these financial markets is that there's a small group that know more about it earlier than you are ever gonna know. Yeah. Like, the pigeons and the Rothschilds Yep. That's it. Water loose situation. The I mean, the the thing in defense of precious metals, I. E. Gold and silver, is that if it's in your hand, you are the complete controller of the asset because it's in your hand. Of course, in the old days, they used to send armies to come and take it out of your hands as a nation and everything. And that's what they used to do. Well, that's what even today's
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militaries, type actions are about Yep. That and and energy, like, petroleum and all that. That's that's what's going on in the the the near east or whatever you wanna call it, Western Asia.
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Yeah. It's it's just it's it's still I'm not really right at the bottom of it in my own thinking, but this, unchanging, human nature towards the acquisition of wealth, We know of it from even detailing all the way back to Goodson's book. You know? What the problem Caesar had once he recognized the prob problem when he returned to Rome and wanted to get the 150,000 people off the streets and forgive all the debts. He ended up with a lot of daggers in his chest. And, you're not the 1st guy to come to that kind of fate when the the power behind the curtain as it were through it down through the ages, whatever it's been. And what is that power? It's kind of a gathering of high level of acquisitive people.
I'm being kind we call them psychopaths. In other words so their entire measure of life is how much stuff they can get, control, power, because they're terrified that somebody else will get it. I'm sure there are more and more layers to actually analyze with all that. But it's that attitude towards, I haven't got enough. I must have more, which causes the shortage. Whereas, in fact, we live on a planet of such abundance, and we've been given brains to actually transform that abundance and do all sorts of things with it. But you're not allowed to do that because this bloke can't get his cut. Yeah. And why does he think he even needs it?
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Yeah. Why does he think he even needs it? It's it's like the guilty flee where none pursue. They end up they end up being ultra paranoid and going into wars all over, you know, because of this because they think they they fear that they're gonna lose their control, so they start these wars in order to distract us from Mhmm. Whatever crime they're they're putting us through.
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Aren't they fun?
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They really are fun. And if there was a if there was a war, this is what I'm looking at this, like, prediction thing, between Russia and NATO. I believe it sorry?
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What's that?
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It's Paul. I think Paul b has a has a line open.
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Yep. Hang on. You're right there, Paul. You're right.
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We hear you. Mhmm. Okay.
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I was gonna say, they they're so skilled at social engineering that it it wouldn't surprise me if you had youth falling over themselves at recruitment offices if there's a war between Russia. Because all they have to do is have, all all wars start with an outrage. They'll have a manufactured outrage and bingo. You've hooked the public. I mean, when you look at it, prior to World War 2, Britain had no stomach. Did had did not want to go to war with Germany. And they switched it around within 6 months and to go to war with Germany. And it'll happen again. Not with Germany, but with Russia. People are stupid.
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Well, that's because they, they go for the young. And I would say that the ideal age that you need to to propagate to are the people around the age of 30, 33 Yeah. Which is, like, the prime age for most men, I would say. And those are the people who have a future, and and they you you know, in the sense that they have a long future ahead of them still. And yet at the same time, they're the most capable of changing things. They're you know, got you get to this age where you're able it's like Christ, you know, in his public ministry.
And I think those are the people that they go for. They they get all riled up and into changing and they to get to go to war because they know that under them are the even younger people who were gonna be the cannon fodder for it. And their parents, you know, won't won't be going there, but their parents will be, you know, all swelled up in pride. Oh, my child's in the military, in the air force, or whatever that it is. You know? It gives them a sense of
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accomplishment almost. And now he's come back minus a leg and an arm.
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No. They don't think that far ahead. They they think that they're invincible. That's what the propaganda is all about.
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Mhmm.
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Because you're the greatest military in the world. You know? It's exceptionalism, American exceptionalism for us. They sit and pound that into our heads. Oh, we're this great force for good in all of the world, and we're saving children in other countries from death and poverty.
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Time for a little Perry Como, lads.
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Yeah. Yes. Why not?
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Here's Perry. Christmas dream. Let me make sure it's not muted. It's not. That means a sound will play. So here it is.
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Is this the one, Eric? Yes. Just the one. Now here I go. All I need's a little slow. Starts me off, sets the theme, helps me dream my Christmas dream. Every year I dream it, open things will change, and into the cry and the shouting, the dang. And I hope you will dream it too. It's Christmas. Remember, we've got to remember. So light a light, I'm home tonight. I need you to warm me to call me to love me to help me to dream my Christmas dream. Night should all be silent. They should all slow down and end into the hurry, the noise in the worry, and I hope you to warm us, to calm us, to love us, to help us to dream our Christmas dream.
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Oh. They're nice. Harry. What did you say? Lovely, Eric. Yeah. Really chuffed. We've had lots of soft, fluffy family songs tonight. It's been nice, hasn't it? No. Yeah. We need to be reminded of that. It's good. I do. Yeah. It's a catch it's a catchy little number. And I I I mean, it's it's a pity the film's so crap, but quite honestly No. It didn't matter. That came out of it. It's great. That's lovely. Fantastic. Great pitch. I like that.
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And, I I because I I've you know, when I was younger as a teeny, Perry Como wouldn't listen to him. I do now. He quite he was fantastic. He really was a good singer. You know? And,
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Maybe a new line of Fockem Hall Knitwear could be created with, Perricomole lines all echoing his wonderful jumpers or pullovers or sweaters or whatever they would call them in the states.
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Doris does. Move over, darling. That's another one. Good, ain't it?
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Doris has been on TV quite a bit the last few days in a lot of films. Old Doris. Yes. Well, they dug her up. No. She's like No. They didn't they didn't quite do that. No. I do like watching the old movies, though, more and more. I mean, I've seen nearly all of them, of course, but,
[02:37:27] Unknown:
it's been good to watch them again. There was North by Northwest on the other day with Carrie Graham. Oh, brilliant film. That is one of Hitchcock's best, I think. He was really good in that. And Cary Grant really knew how to act, didn't he? He was he's he was the business.
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My sons like it as well. And when we're talking about it, I say, look. It's all very subtle, but the storytelling's almost perfect. The edit the the that I mean, I know it's a cliche, but the whole scene at the bus stop with the the plane that's spraying crops and everything. Oh. I I watched it. Brilliant. I was trying to count the number of cuts. Right? There's just loads. It's just amazing. And all there is is him and the guy on the other side of the road and nothing else in the frame. And it just the tension is just building and building. And it doesn't even have to be anything. It's the fact that you don't know what's likely to happen next. I mean, if you've seen it, you obviously do. Yeah. But as you go through it, you just go, there is something really masterful in the in the cutting and the timing of all of this kind of stuff, and there's there's a magic in it, and it's wonderful, and you get completely drawn in.
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I love the old films. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when the old farmer that he meets on the other side of the road says, that's strange. That plane's Mhmm. Spraying a field, and there's no crops in it. Yeah. That's right. Starts attention. It's a bit weird in there. Yeah. Do you notice Cary Grant is immaculately dressed in every frame of that film?
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In Even when he's running through the bushes, his suit looks perfect. I wish I had a bloody suit like that. It's amazing. His hair is perfect as well all the time, but is is that Is it who's the who's the one woman? And is it
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Yves Saint John or Yeah. She's still alive. She's a 100.
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She's absolutely stunning. She's so feminine, and she's ex there's a lot of double entendres, which you don't pick up when you're a kid. There's a lot. Right? It's it's got hick Hitchcock's sexual smutty references. You can pick him up all over the place. Oh. Including vinyl Yeah. Yeah. Go on. Sorry. The worst one was Batman for smart. You watch that as an adult, and he's absolutely
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as smarty as you could wish to think of. Yeah. Do you remember, you know, the Batman's I'm talking about the one in the sixties.
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Adam West and Burt Ward. That's right.
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Yes. Yes. And I won't tell the Batman gag because it's too rude for this, for tonight. Oh, you heard it.
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Pop pop, Robin.
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I think you give the punch line away.
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Yep. I did. And Sally writes and Sally writes here, chaps. Just go coming back to your song, Eric. Yeah. Go.
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Go on. I'm bracing myself. Go on. What what sorry. You didn't give the month by the way, Patrick. I'm sorry. I didn't accuse you there. It's wrong. What is the beginning? Eric, no. Patrick knows this. What is the beginning of this well known rhyme, cockrobin?
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No? Any any I don't know, Eric. What is the beginning of this well known rhyme?
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Gee. What's this up my ass, Batman? I'm laughing. I've heard it before.
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That's bad.
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Oh, dear.
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I used to have an audience. I used to have an audience, you know, Eric. People used to tune into this show and enjoy it. You know that, don't you?
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Bloody hell. I think you're gonna get banned on that one. Well, I wouldn't have said, obviously, on the radio thing. You know? It's alright on Rumble. But I got away with it on, YouTube. So there we go. So
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Well done. Well done. Anyway, swiftly moving on. Aunt Sally writes, going back to a more civilized conversation. Anne Sally writes, it's strange hang on. How I cover a lot just That's better. It's strange how we suddenly like the music our parents played when we were young. Yes. I guess it is really. I guess it is. Maybe also we were the children of parents who actually could play music. In other words, my parents never really heard music in the house because the gramophone hadn't been invented when they were teenagers in the 19 thirties or certainly up north, nobody had one. The first sort of ed home entertainment anybody got was a radio, and I guess they would have read it through that. We had a few LPs when I was growing up, but my mom and dad never went out and bought them much. They were just too busy shouting at us and beating us senseless with rolling pins and things like this. It was very exhausting keeping us all in line. No. It wasn't like that at all. It was wonderful. But I I had an electronic organ that they bought. My parents have made electric electronic organs in the seventies.
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And quite honestly, I hate electronic organs. They made sort of flatulent sounds that's supposed to sound like banjos. And in those days, they weren't that much cop because my mother played by ear. My father's music, he could play the he could play, music as well. It never carried on to me though because I got fed up with it. But do you remember those organs of the, that had very strange things, a lot of vibra wows and things like that that made these weird noises? The early electronic organs
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Yes. They were dreadful, weren't they? Hammond was Well, the sort of thing when you were about 14, if you got in front of 1, you wanted to just try every single button and just make a din, didn't you? Just wow. Wow. Wow. But it wasn't yeah. They they had a sort of cheesy seaside bingo hall type sound to them. It was particularly edifying. I didn't think.
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No. I mean, the the the the they were, Hammonds were were was unique. That they were different. I like the Hammond sound. But,
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my parents, they were very expensive in those days. That they were shipped over Well, your parents were. Your parents were very expensive. Yeah. They're quite expensive to get. They do cost a lot to run to parents, don't they? Mine mine were quite expensive too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But, no. It's it's there there was a time when there's something my my parents used to collect all the LPs, these people that played these electronic organs. They always had a cheesy smile at the front of the the LP cover. You know? So Bert Higgins plays the Vibra Whirl and,
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the Leslie organ and all this sort of stuff. That's probably why I detest Come on. I can just see you now. I could see you on an album cover, Eric. Eric Vonnessage plays plays cheesy hits from the forties and fifties. That'd be great. I I'd buy it just for the album cover. It's the album covers that you've I miss them so much. When they went to CDs, they just the the album, it lost so much punch. It just did. I remember when I got sort of Dark Side of the Moon, it was a spectacular sleeve design. They all up and down. It had all these lyrics on. Everybody just went it just it felt like you were being invited to a really cool experience. Of course, with that LP, you really were. They weren't all that good. But there was a lot of, you know, intent and thought went into the design of album. And it's right that you do see. It's a bit like movie posters. If you don't pre sold a thing, you can't build up an expectation and hope it's gonna be fulfilled. It's all part of the bargain that you're striking with the creator, I guess. So, but, yeah, I can just see I always remember what was that one?
There's a that clip often in Monty Python in the TV series where they had, what's it, Jones? I forgot his first name. He's died now, hasn't he? Is it my
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Erica, I don't know the one.
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Oh, I can't remember his first. Yes. Yeah. And he was he'd be playing a far feaster organ, but he was completely naked. Do you remember that? I said, yes. It's And he goes, and he just turned around and grinned, and all he had on was a bow tie. He was completely in his yeah. I quite liked all that. Very cheesy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the Hammond Whirllets are rising up from the pit, as it were during the intermission of the cinema. Yeah. Great stuff. Yeah. Terry Jones. Yeah.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I think Yeah. I think that what happened is, pianos went out, but now you don't get actual real pianos because they're all electronic, aren't they? Well, they sound just like the ordinary pianos. They never go out of tune.
[02:45:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I guess. Well, we've got a real piano in our house, and it's lovely. And yeah. Yeah. It's great. My, no. My sons do, though. They both play pretty well. One of them keeps threatening to learn to read music, and I suggest he should because he's got the skills for it. I said, he he said, oh, I don't know. I said, look. If you do have. If you do it, I said, it's you never know. You might be on an ocean going yacht one day. You ain't got any money. Yeah. Play the piano. Time for a knees up. Knees up my vibrato or whatever. I said, you better play stuff. I said it's a cool skill. People love good piano players. It's difficult to not like them. It's a it's a delightful sounding thing when it's They they sound a keyboard player in a band is usually the most intelligent one in the band.
Yep. That's why I don't play keyboards, Patrick. You're right.
[02:46:41] Unknown:
My mom could play the boogie woogie on the on she she was played completely by it. It couldn't read a note of music. My dad used to read music. He could read music. He could play. But Yeah. When we had a piano, because I got rid of the piano, get this organ thing. And, my mom could play the boogie woogie stuff, really fast, as I as I used to. And you and but she didn't read a couldn't read a note of music. Did it all by her. Right. And you could you could tune to her, and she just play it out like that. She's incredibly clever. Very skillful at doing that. It's it's an art. You're born with a thing. I don't know. But it it never
[02:47:18] Unknown:
you you learn these things called scales, and when you learn those, you can improvise a lot easier when you when you know what key to play in, whether it's a major or a minor scale. And too often, you know, the a lot of music that that they play these days is in, it's it there's something to that. There's what's known as chromatic where it's like all 12 tones, 12 notes, but then there's diatonic, which is like c major or any any of the major scales or minor scales, which are pleasing to the ear. But then when you start dealing with chromatic scales, like the jazz, certain jazz type type, scales, it it becomes very confusing and you you don't have a good memory of of the melody. The melody becomes just a mess.
And I think a lot of, like, what we call modern music has has too much of that, and that's why it's not as good as the old stuff where you can sing along and to the to the melody. But if there's a lot of initial keys, you can improvise anything almost.
[02:48:30] Unknown:
I just think there's a lot to be said for the analog world, for the for the fountain pen world, for the pencil and paper world Yeah. The slow to do with a point you mentioned earlier, Eric, which is to do with the amount of time it takes to use those things to create something. It's not instantaneous. And this is a good thing because it allows for lots of sort of micro adjustments in your thinking as you're putting it together. Whereas, you know, a lot of people that are playing music on what they call radio stations, I mean, it's just it's pointless. There's no point playing it. It's just copy and paste junk. And they go, listen. I've got all these special sound effects, and we've got this new processor for this. And they go, yeah. But there's no heart or soul or anything of interest in this sound at all because there's nothing human in it. It's boring. It's very, very dull. And that this we're gonna hit that point where people just won't accept it. I'd rather see a guy, I've said this before, just playing the guitar even slightly badly and getting it wrong live than anything else. That's there's something else takes place. It's magic. There's a kind of magic. And like we mentioned about Yeah. There really is. And when bands get it wrong, that's a good thing because you find out whether they're good. Because when it goes wrong, you find out how they adjust to get it back on track, and that's always cool. And they start, like, we used to do it. Some used to get wrong loads. We just go, yeah. Go on.
Get it back on, then it come back and we all start laughing. But it's good because the crowd wanna know that. They go, yeah. You know, sort of we we don't expect you to be perfect. Whereas this is obsession with polishing everything to such degree. There's nothing left in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very lovely, shiny, bright, perfectly sounding thing. Have I got to listen to it? You know? I'd rather just go and get covered in ketchup and have a mess. It's not messy enough. And, a lot of that's been lost. There's a lot of sort of prissy anxiety about these things, and we can get it absolutely perfect. And nobody wants it perfect. We're not interested.
[02:50:20] Unknown:
I actually, I I worked in on the Bellys Gate redevelopment, you know, that big, pyramid type building that that that sorts now. And he was looking at basement drawings, and they were they come from microfilms of drawings that were done in the 18 eighties and 18 nineties. And they were a work of art. Actual even the north sign, you know, they didn't have pencils and things like that. I don't think in those days. It was beautiful. The the the, printing on there, all hand printed. And that was beautiful as well. The whole around the the the the droids had borders on them that were artistic, because they had the time to do it in those days. They had plenty of time to think things through.
Whereas, when you now when you was designing anything, this is just before the advent of KEGG, computer aided design, that the ink was fairly dry. It'd be whisked off the dry and bolt and straight through the printers and off it would go. Everything was done. It's a great rush. The idea that things you take a long time to design something. No. Because the design period is an overhead, which the client doesn't wanna pay for, so they cut it to the minimum. And so you've only got a certain amount of time to, to produce a design drawing, or working drawing rather. And that is the sad thing.
Architects do, come in for a bit of stick. They should do. Yes. But not always. Because it's not always the architect's fault. It's the client's fault for cutting the design time down to the minimum. And that is the big problem.
[02:52:03] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:52:04] Unknown:
And that's why, there are so many architects that has actually have nervous breakdowns. It's very, very high. I've worked with them. You know? So let's see it.
[02:52:15] Unknown:
Well, the idea of those architectural drawings is very appealing. I'd love some prints of those. Like, maybe of Saint Paul's or, you know, some of these original for these great buildings that were put up in the 1800. I mean Woah. It's,
[02:52:29] Unknown:
but Christopher Wren wasn't an architect, was he? Apparently, he wasn't an architect. Wasn't he? No. Apparently, he wasn't. But there's loads and loads of drawings because I was talking to professor Moss about this, and she's looked into the Great Fire of London and found out that, it isn't what we're told. It's completely different, because the fire went the wrong way to the prevailing wind, which doesn't happen. And, there's a lot more in it. And she said, well, when you look at the plans for Saint Paul's, it's, all different signatures on it. And I said, well, that's correct. Because what happens, the architect, or Christopher Wren, will be the lead name of that, and it's the technicians that actually do the most of the most of them do the drawings and make sure it all fits together. It's the technicians that actually do it. It's a bit like a racing car driver. Racing car driver gets all the credit, but it's the people who put the racing car together and plan it all out. The boys in the bedroom that that that they he wouldn't be there unless it was them.
And that's why when you look at a building, there'd be a bit 20, 30, depending on the size of the project, different names on the drawings, because, that would be the team that'll be working on it. You know? But, again, if you look at those plans for some poles, they will be artistic masterpieces because they were real designers. They're real craftsmen. They're real draftsmen in those days. Real designers. There's a big difference between a draftsman and a designer. The world's different, but that's another thing. But, you know, there was lots of projects I worked on, which I'd loved to have had the time to design out properly, but, you know, there was no time. You only had a how to do it or something like that. And that's why I like working on-site because you had more time even though you would go on-site, and you was actually, you'd actually have a a a a a pad and pencil and and, what's the name paper in between? What they call it? What's that what's that paper? Carbon paper. Carbon paper. Thanks, Paul.
And you'd actually draw out a detail on-site, stare it off, and give it to the bloke, and the blokes are standing there waiting to to build, and you'd have to work that quick. That's what I actually had. But in a way, you got used to it, and you got used to thinking quickly and things like that. But what I like to but you could actually see it being produced, see it being built, and that is a marvelous thing. But then you see all the design problems that you've got to iron out, and that was the challenge. That's what I quite liked. You know? And, also, you could get out of the office as well. But, no, it's what we got now is just a concrete jungle, and we lost it in 1914.
Before then, we had Art Nouveau, and then it went to Art Deco, which I don't it's alright, I suppose. And then when you look at the buildings, everything after 1914 is rubbish. Have you ever seen the Fisher Building in Detroit?
[02:55:28] Unknown:
You ever looked that up? No. No. Go look it up after the show. Just go look at the images of the internal art deco. It's mind blowing. Detroit is a dung hole. Yeah. Well, it is now, but if you're gonna look at the Fisher Building, it's absolutely staggering. Some of the internal decorative work and the columns. It's just beautiful.
[02:55:46] Unknown:
We wrecked it with the Bauhaus. The Bauhaus School. Right. It's just soulless and garbage.
[02:55:53] Unknown:
Of course. Yes. Oh, great. We called it the Bauhaus.
[02:55:56] Unknown:
Bauhaus. And I was at college. We called it the Bauhaus because they're Well, Tom Waughhaus book from from Bauhaus to Our House. I bought that when I was about 22. I I don't know why. It's not as if I was sort of obsessed with architecture back then, but I just loved it because he just said, why are all modern buildings crap? And, of course, it's an attack on us as a people. Yeah. If if prior to that, every everything that happened in Europe and in America was a direct organic outgrowth of us as a monocultural people. The only way culture's ever created you you can never create it in a multiracial space. Never get created. It's just shit. No one's happy. Every it's compromised, compromised. And the compromised culture creates an administrative layer that has to be paid for to keep everybody happy. That's part of it. Yeah. It was Christian. Police force in the middle, don't we? We need to bugger off.
[02:56:44] Unknown:
You know? It was Christian. Yes. And as Christianity eroded from the Yes. The the marketplace, that's when it went downhill from there. Spot on. Absolutely. It's like in every decision
[02:56:57] Unknown:
and every thought and every line drawn is done by many men who valued their family and honour and all those qualities that we the good qualities that that need to be right at the heart of it. That that this is how life manifests for us when we've got those things right at the front of our mind and we act upon them. And when you've got people all of the same frequency, I, in our case, white people, that's what happens. And that the Chinese created something else quite beautiful in many ways. It's not the way we create a thing, but you can look at it and you go, well, they did that because they're homogeneous and they create a thing. Japan with all those Buddha cans and all this other stuff. You go, wow. It's very different. I don't go, oh, it's not as good as our stuff. No one says that. We go, it's amazing.
But if you put if you put them all together, you just end up with junk. You end up with London, junk, total junk. Foster needs to be, you know, sectioned. All of these Oh my god. All of them. I just wanna let's have national smash an architect in the face day. I mean, really. Yeah. We do. We just do abuse our today is National Abuse Architecture Day and really get at them because they're just I think of, like, Frank Geary over here and and I think Wolf has a massive pop of Frank Gehry. And, of course, they write all this intellectual poppycock a bit like Ferguson does with all this stuff, and they're all snotty. Oh, well, I went to this architectural school, and therefore I know what I'm talking about. Yeah. But you're crap, mate. No. It's interesting in your city buildings.
[02:58:24] Unknown:
Southbank is, like, sort of it looks if they had loads of cement delivered. So what we're gonna do with it? I know. Let's build Southbank. It's it's just white concrete everywhere. But I used to pass I used to go past the Lloyd's building on my way to work on when I worked at, the British Gate redevelopment. And I looked, and I thought, that's funny. All that scaffolding outside. I couldn't quite work out the building. And I thought, when are they gonna take that down? It wasn't. It it the lifts and everything are on the outside of the building. It's horrible. But what I used to say what they used to say to me is, oh, it's a statement. Or so is a, like, a dog poo on the ground. That's a statement as well, especially if you slide slip in it. But and, oh, it's because you're not used to it. It's ugly.
No. Look, I work next to Tower Bridge. It is a beautiful structure. Tower Bridge was designed that to me is, you may not like it. I like it because that is engineering. That's art. It is a work of art. And as Fred Dibner said, a steam engine is a work of art. They took pride in what they did. And my granddad could just about remember when they built Tower Bridge, and he said the riveters used to throw, they used to be a, like a, a place where they hit hot the rivers are. And they threw the rivets up to the riveters, and they go bash straight into the bridge. They were so used to it. And, they used to catch the rivets. Can you imagine that with health and safety today? And he must have been about, oh, 3 or 4. Very, very young. It's one of his earliest memories.
But the thing is is that, it's time. That's the trouble. It's money. That's that's because most clients, they'll get away with anything. They're not proud of their all to do with profit, profit, profit, profit all the time. You know?
[03:00:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And you mentioned Fred Dibna. I I remember in Russia when I went there, seeing all these huge smoke stacks, You know, the just beautiful looking structures when you when you think about the work that went into them. And they still have them. You know, I'm like here where they destroyed all of them. And you don't you don't have that, sense of of, real what what it takes to to, run some an an economy in a in a fruitful manner. You get rid of things like coal power and Yeah. Production of steel.
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[00:02:59] Unknown:
Yo ho ho and all that kind of stuff. Merry Christmas to everyone. It is Thursday, 26th December 2024, The last show of the year is also Boxing Day. More on that in a moment. Oh, I've been having a fun week. Bloody hell. Welcome to all the WBN listeners in, the USA and around the world. Just gone 3 PM US EST, 8 PM here in the UK. Well, I hope you've all had a cracking week since last Thursday. I hope Santa brought you everything that you wanted, whatever that might be. I hope I would imagine most of you had a more fun time than I've had. I should have some violin tracks now to play, you know, that sort of mournful stuff. But I had the I had the honor of having probably the least Christmassy Christmas day of my entire life this year.
It wasn't by planning. It just sort of all fell apart, because I became very, very unwell, and, which was a bit of a surprise, actually. We did the show last Thursday. I was fighting fit, ready to go. Everything was marvelous. Friday too was good. I don't know if I mentioned last week I was, invited along to the annual office do. It's not really an office do. I've I'm, of course, not part of any office, setup, but I always call it that. Whenever your friends invite you out for an end of year Christmas lunch, I always call it my office do. And, got together, at the local pub that I've mentioned a few times before here in jolly old West Sussex, and there were about 24 people there. That's quite quite a chunky number, isn't it? Cracking people. Didn't get chances to speak to them all, unfortunately. It was, so much food to eat and abuse to hurl up one another. It was just impossible to get round to everybody and insult everyone.
But it a a good night was had by all, I think. Certainly, that night was, and, that was great. And Saturday was pretty good too. And I I I, I went to bed on Saturday night, as you do. And then I woke up Sunday morning, not alive, basically, as if I'd been hit by a freight train. Very odd. No sort of sign of this, and it's turned out as well. And some of them will be listening right now, so I'm playing my violin for you 2, guys and gals, that about half a dozen, maybe more than that, have been laid low by the same thing, whatever this thing is. Anyway, I've never been so weedy in my entire life.
Very, very odd experience, not being able to stand up. Yes. I kid you not. Absolutely ridiculous. And I suppose this is what flu is, I think. Not that I've got a technical manual on the whole thing, but I think it might be. And, if it is, if what's been happening for me for the last week is flu, then at least I know I've never had flu ever in my life, ever. Because if this is flu, I've never had anything quite like this, quite remarkable. And aching joints, the lot. And, you know, I used to laugh at people and say, I can't even get out of bed. I got bloody get out of bed. Come on. It's not that difficult. But, it turned out it's absolutely impossible when you've got no energy. And, that's really what I found out. It's, not I'm I'm being quite light about it right now. And in fact, all the way up until 5 minutes to go, this was a bit touch and go this show. No. That's not true. I actually made my mind that we would do it anyway, round about midday today. I feel good enough. You might hear me hit the mute button a lot if I get a coughing fit, because that doesn't make for too much interesting radio, does it? I don't think it does.
But, to everybody who's been struck by the lurgy, my, heart goes out to you. So that was my Christmas day. My Christmas day was me eating 2 potatoes. I'm really gonna I ate 2 potatoes and one slice of turkey. Couldn't taste any of it. It was like putting metal in my mouth. Just drank a lot of fluid, not booze. And, that's it, really. Very exciting. Didn't get too depressed, actually. I just had a lot of time to sit around and look at movies. I can't remember what I watched. Obviously, so vacant about things. But, anyway, I appear to be past the worst of it all right now, and that's the best thing, we can say.
Past all that silliness and nonsense, I hope you didn't have anything quite so tedious and draining and boring as that. I've been whining like a good in about it, I suppose. My sons just look at me and say, dad, drink more water. So I've been drinking a lot. And me and the toilet have become, well, very close friends over the last few days as I visit it every sort of 45 minutes. So, anyway, more information than you all wanted. I hope you had a cracker. I have, of course, with me in the studio, other people also who do who don't have anything to do on Boxing Day evening. And, if you're, in the US, if you're listening to you, WBN by the US feed and you're of our US audience, you might not know what Boxing Day is.
This is the day, obviously, after Christmas Day. And in England, for a long time, it's always been known as Boxing Day. Actually, when I say a long time, I don't know how long. I'm assuming no. I don't know what to assume. But, what does it mean? Now when I was young, and everybody can step in what they think it might means, but when I was very young, like 5 6, I thought it meant that on the TV the next day or something, there were gonna be a lot of boxing matches, lots of fighting. But because when you think about it, it's not really in keeping with the spirit of the times, is it? Yeah. We're gonna have Christmas days, peace and goodwill to old men, but then the next day, men are gonna start fighting in professional bouts. It it of course, it's nothing to do with that, but I wasn't the only child to make that error in thinking it was that.
It's actually the day, although I stand to be corrected if anybody's got a better take on this, is that a day on which all your presents that you'd receive, you know, all those presents that you've just received, all those socks, lads. Right? All those nylons, ladies. I'm just being old fashioned intentionally. You put them back in their boxes. It's an English tradition so the children are not spoilt. You can't have them getting all hysterically carried away playing with their toys and driving all the older people mad for the whole week. So the idea was that you've got to play with the toys for a day, then they're immediately back in the box because the day after, you're back at school and learning things. Anyway, let me, introduce you to the usual crew. If you're regulars in here, you'll be aware, of them anyway. But, Patrick, our man in Wisconsin, merry Christmas to you, Patrick, on this fine boxing day. And how are you doing?
[00:10:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Merry Christmas. I'm doing quite well. Yeah. And it's also, Saint Stephen's Day today.
[00:10:56] Unknown:
The first The feast of Saint Stephen's. Is that right? Yep. Feast of Stephen. And then what carol's he in? Where the the mayor king of endless
[00:11:06] Unknown:
That's it. Out on the feast of Stephen.
[00:11:10] Unknown:
That's it. And we were talking about this last week, weren't we? Because I said I played good king. No. I played old king Cole. I didn't play king Wenceslas. I'm getting very I've played so many monarchs in my time, Patrick. Oh, well, that's great. No. That's that's really good. And you've had you've had a pretty good family sort of Christmas day yesterday, didn't you, and things like that?
[00:11:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Actually, today, we're having our family over. The house here is full, and my mom and everybody wish everyone a happy happy and, blessed Christmas, a merry Christmas.
[00:11:42] Unknown:
Well, everybody here at Pauling's live we wishes the Chanels and their family gathering a merry Christmas too. So send that back into them. Hope you're having a cracking day. I'm quite jealous in a way. Us was so my Christmas day was so un Christmassy. My oldest son, I said, you don't wanna be here on Christmas day. He said, no. I don't. So he went off to meet up with other people, and he did the right thing. I was fine with it. I just thought I'd infect everybody with what I'd got otherwise. But, that was that was that was that. Let's hop back over to this side of the pond. Eric,
[00:12:13] Unknown:
good evening, Eric. How are you? Welcome to the show. And Merry Christmas for that video yet, all the all the, listeners. And, well, I like the song was a good kick went a slash one night when the win was cure cruel. That's what we used to sing at school anyway. But, yes, Boxing Day happens to be my sister's birthday and my much older sister. When we were younger, we used to have presents on Boxing Day, and she was really upset because, she said, oh, some people sent a Christmas and birthday presents all combined, and she got upset about that. So, yeah, it was weird. We so we had our own presents on Boxing Day, which was my sister's birthday, which I suppose So she felt a little robbed.
[00:13:00] Unknown:
Is that it's bad timing, isn't it? The season of goodwill and that you're a bit cross that you're not getting as much as you think you ought to get. It's not
[00:13:08] Unknown:
Well, when I was born, the first word she said when they shouted down the stairs, it's a boy, was, oh, no. And she detested me from that day on because she was always upset that I had a birthday in May, so I didn't get Christmas and birthday combined. And she hers was on boxing day. So
[00:13:28] Unknown:
Even at the sweet and beautiful innocent start of life, there's already a grudge building. Isn't it sad? That's right. Yes. Yes. I mind you, I haven't seen my sister for,
[00:13:39] Unknown:
what is it, 15 years, so I don't know whether she's still around or not. So that's life. We we never got on.
[00:13:45] Unknown:
That's it for me. I I can I yeah? 15 years is okay. Okay. Well, maybe you could look her up. Send her a Boxing Day present or something. I don't know. No. Thank you. I don't really want a headache. Thank you. It wasn't really advice. I was just making polite, pointless, vacuous chitchat there to fill in the gap, lady. Pressured.
[00:14:03] Unknown:
Thank you.
[00:14:07] Unknown:
And, hopping back over to the other side of the water, Paul. Yes. Welcome to the show. Yes, Paul. How are you? Did you did you have a smashing day yesterday, and do you have too much stuffing?
[00:14:21] Unknown:
Actually, I don't even remember what I had to eat yesterday. I think it was probably peanut butter on a fork, maybe something that had to do with egg noodles and whatever I could throw in the pot. Me and the cat, we had a a really quiet Christmas day. Just, high quality
[00:14:40] Unknown:
photos. It's quite depressing to hear that. It's very uncanny. I'm sorry. But, actually,
[00:14:45] Unknown:
you know, getting back a little bit to what you opened the show with was, I'm actually getting reports of, like, little little clusters of illness, not unlike, what you were experiencing. And I would be interested in knowing if there were, like, 5 or 6 people that were at that gathering that came down with the same symptoms you did, if there were any commonalities between, like, transit directions or or the the route being taken, from their home to the meeting? Any events
[00:15:20] Unknown:
or events like that? It could have been, Paul. It could have been the salmon moose, except there wasn't any salmon moose, but salmon moose is prone to providing food poisoning at times. But I don't know. I mean, my brother who who wasn't there, he's 200 miles up the road. He's got he called me up 2 days ago to wish me and as he starts talking, he sounds like I sound now. I said, what's up with you? He said, I've got this blah blah blah blah. I said, no. I've got it. I was gonna tell you first. He's got exactly the same thing. He said, I've never felt so it's like being hit by a truck. I know these are all euphemisms for things, aren't they? But it does feel like that. I've just been. My dad used to have this thing. He said, I've got as much strength as a lamb, and I you could just push me over. It was I started laughing. I find it quite funny when I'm sort of so pathetic. And then, you know, when you see, old elderly folk with a walking stick?
Yeah. I realized that I needed I actually would have needed one if I wanted to go out walking. There's no way I could have trusted myself to stay up on my pins.
[00:16:17] Unknown:
It was, quite a shock, actually. Didn't like it. I yeah. Very odd. A report from a friend of mine that, she had attended a 4 day event. It's it was Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and, Trump was expected to speak on Sunday. And there was a line, of course, getting into the place, so she, wound up outside in 32, 34 degree weather. She lives in Arizona, so, of course, she's not used to that. But, Yeah. A bunch of people a bunch of people, not even a handful of people came down with the same symptoms, very similar to the ones that you expressed.
And, when she went to get checked out, her blood work showed antibodies for, drum roll, please, bird flu and hepatitis d. And Yay. She hasn't been around anybody. She hasn't she hasn't had any recent inoculations. She hasn't, really done anything other than attend that 4 day event. And she has basically been sleeping 20 out of 24 hours ever since, and that was last week. Oh. So,
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you're not alone. Yeah. You know things you know life's not around. No. I know. Paul, there's there's agreement in the chat right now. Exo's writing that he says, you sound like a slightly more spike generated nasty bug victim than me. It's been effing nasty. Yeah. It has. It's been a surprise to me. And I don't mind getting ill. I actually quite like a cold. I know it sounds a bit weird. I don't actually mind them at all. They only last a few days. I could move around. But, with this one, this is of a completely different, scale.
Really is. Anyway, my immune system's gonna lick it. That's what I say. Oh, it's a bit of a blow. You and I've you know when you get you know when you get this coming on? I had to go and look this up. I'm assuming everybody gets something similar to this. When I know I'm gonna get in a bad way or I've got something like that, all my major muscle groups in my legs begin to ache like mad. It just gets so achy. And I thought, what is that? Well, it turns out that's a good sign, apparently. And what that is is because you've got a big store of power there or whatever, that's a sign that your body is producing a surplus of white blood cells, to boost your immune system, to fight off what it knows is coming down the pipe for you for the next 2 or 3 days.
So it's a sign that you've got something, your body's recognized it, and it's prepping you, and the prep tires you out because it's gonna divert energy elsewhere because, oh, you don't need to walk for a bit because we gotta be we gotta deal with this. It's amazing, the body, isn't it, really? We're just so stupid interpreting things wrong. But it's interesting, Ekso, that you've had a similar sort of thing. I had experienced Yeah. So I I think there is something going around.
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No. I had experience with the same thing 3 years ago. And, like, I I spoke a little bit at the beginning of the program. It almost killed me twice. I was down with it for, like, 3 months. And, what I got from that, I got long standing issues. I mean, edema in my right leg and foot. Okay? Not my left. Mhmm. It it eventually Right. Migrated to my left, but, I had, I believe, cracked a rib in, in the course, of it. And, I had the whole metallic taste thing going on, I mean, forever. You know? And it almost killed me twice. And what I the the nearest thing I mean, I live a very solitaire a solitary, lifestyle.
Okay? Most of what I do is on computer, on the Internet, or on the radio, or whatever. So I don't see a lot of people, and I hadn't seen anybody. I hadn't ventured out of the house for, like, 2 weeks before that. But what I did notice was that I had received an Amazon package. And after I recovered, I got to thinking about it. As it turns out, that Amazon package that I received 2 to 3 days before I fell ill had been tampered with. Somebody had opened and re taped the bottom. And when I looked at my order date as opposed to when it when it arrived, it was delayed 8 days. So the only thing I can do is attribute my illness to a very intentional infection that did not work, and, I'm much better for it.
So
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maybe I should do that for They're planning all sorts of yeah. I I think your point about the when you said bird flu, I just thought, oh, yeah. No. It's just they're gonna label it whatever they want, aren't they? It's exhausting living on this planet of assholes. It really is. No. A present company listening audience exempt from that comment. Okay? But it's just simply true, as this show, not alone in this, you know, comes back to again and again and again. We have people who have apparently in charge who, you know, shouldn't even be in charge of something a lot, lot smaller than a country. I can't I can't think straight.
But, yeah. No. Really. Seriously. And, shout out to everybody in Rumble chat. If you're listening on the radio, by the way, and you want to plug into the chat and type things and all that kind of stuff, you can get over onto Rumble, which is the main sort of, nesting place for the show in terms of audience interaction. I've also managed, I think, successfully this week to finally get the show up and running over YouTube live. I struggled with it the other week. It doesn't mean that they'll necessarily be a vast audience there. It's supposed to be running, and it says it's running. But, again, I see that I've probably not got it right because for some reason I can't work the bloody thing out. Anyway, let's not talk about technical things. It's far too boring.
But, yeah, if you wanna head on over to Rumble, you can do that. And and Sally says, it's difficult to even find a birthday card around Christmas. I know because it was my son's last week. Yeah. It is. It's all that kind of stuff, you know, and, and stuff like that. So it's good to have everybody on board, and if you wanna check out with everybody in the room, that's great. So Merry Christmas to you all, and a big thank you for your, support and listening this year, because this is the last one of this year, unless I'm fully recovered and we actually do a New Year's Eve marathon for 16 hours or something. That's a joke, by the way. I wouldn't have that much energy.
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What?
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No. But well, I thought maybe what we could do well, I'm not gonna be doing anything New Year's Eve. I'm all Billy no mates these days. It's sad. I don't want to be. I'd rather go out and just have a con a completely vacuous evening, you know, goofing around and being an idiot, because I think you need a change, a break from all this kind of stuff. In fact, that's one thing that's really struck me. Just having 3 or 4 days off away from all of this has been really good. I feel mentally slightly refreshed, and I need to I thought as note to self, I thought I need to take at least one day a week off of Internet use, just literally not switch it on.
But I just can't pick which day, so I'm buggered because there's always something to do, isn't it? There's always something that's really, really important. I look back and I'm like, I don't think it was important as I thought it was, you know, all that kind of stuff. If So throw
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sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. If you can throw up. No. You can't throw up. I'll put I'll put you up. Yeah. But I'll put you up. Yeah. But I'll put you on to this because Please do. Couple of years ago, I think, oh, 3, 4 years no. It must have been less than that. About 2 years ago. In the summer was was it 2,022? Doesn't matter. There was a, a speaker a little bit like David Ike who did this, gig in a field in, Somerset. And I know 2 people that went there, and they said that there was planes spraying in fields nearby. Yeah. And when they came back, one person, had symptoms almost identical to yourself, and he felt very, very depressed. It affected him mentally, you know, because he felt so depressed with it.
And another chap ended up in hospital. And loads of people that went to this gig, it was beyond the law of averages. And they and remember, they're in a field, this great big field. I mean, if people I don't necessarily believe in, germ theory. But, you know, it's an open air field, and they all went down with this bug, which is really strange. And a certain thing, I read an article. Now, again, if you ask me for the proof, I haven't got it. But there was someone that mentioned that, during the, we call it Divock 91. Sure. We're back to front.
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Oh, no. We're on the rumble. Although hang on. You are on YouTube. I'll be careful. We're not gonna get hey. Oh, I actually, YouTube, just while you're doing that, they they stopped the show last week because of I couldn't publish it. I'm just having to dart around it. I'll get on top of it at some point. I've not really given a fig the last few days, to be quite honest. The remember we played the Andy Williams song last week? It's the most wonderful well, YouTube didn't like that one. They're actually quite fair in a way about the song stuff. They'll say there's a copyright notice on this song, and then you check it through and it goes, and it's been allowed by the artist. You're allowed to to use it. So it's generally only recent stuff or something like that, which I guess is such a perennial classic and has been played for so many years that it's still of of great value and they don't allow anybody to play. I'm cool with that. I don't mind. I don't get upset about any of it, really.
You know, if they wanna choke us off, that's okay. We've got plenty of platforms to go at. I mean, you know, I just feel these platforms as a place to to pick up more audience. But Sure. Eric, apologies for interrupting. You were saying No. No. No. That's okay. But I think if is it over
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someone can correct me here. Is it 60 years, 70 years? If you play stuff like, big band sound, I think you might be okay because it might be out of copyright. I don't know. I might be talking at me back backside on that one. But, anybody in chat or anybody, Paul might know, I don't know, But this copyright thing, I think I think it's over 5th 60 years, I think it is, or something like that. But, it's worth checking out. The other thing I was gonna say is that someone mentioned that the Secret Service during this, the epidemic, shall we say, or the the fable, were distributing, nasty stuff down the tubes in London.
And everybody I know that traveled on the tube during that lockdown time went down with something nasty similar to what you've got. Now I know that they were practiced during the cold war. They were, with germ warfare. They sprinkled lots of stuff down the tube to see how it would spread, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So they've obviously got much more sophisticated since the 19 sixties. That's when seventies when they used to, you know, practice with these germs. And that because, my father, when we went on holiday once to Cornwall, he came out the sea, and his face was all in blisters.
And we thought, what on earth's happened? And he went to the doctor, and the doctor said, oh, it should be this was in Newquay in Cornwall. He said, oh, well, they call it Newquay mouth. He said, it's probably due to the sewage out there. Well, it wasn't because I found out, oh, couple of years ago, because they released some papers, that, Portman Down did experiments at the exact time that we was on holiday there off the coast of Cornwall on germ warfare. And my dad went for a swim, and he came out, as I say, looking like the elephant man. You know, it's horrendous. He felt really self conscious. Ruined our holiday. So I think that what they do, they can actually spread epidemics easily, really easily. And they know about germ warfare. And I'm wondering whether this is something to do with this low overcast cloud because I often watch the Met Office, weather on YouTube, and someone put, this low cloud, I'm finding everybody's going down with a a bad bad, sore throats.
So Mhmm. There's something weird about this overcast because you sometimes have overcast, say, for 2 to 3 days. You don't have it for weeks on end, but we've got it. This is not this is not natural. I've never known overcast to last for weeks on end. Anybody else?
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You're probably right. I mean, it's an English thing. I mean, I I think I've just got so used to overcast England. I'm sort of, like, on weather default all the time. I just expect it to be cloudy, really, at this time of the year. I mean, you know, the as I've mentioned here before, I love where I live in the winter probably more than the summer, which is a bit weird, isn't it? But it's so deserted, which I like, apart from the dog walkers, who are generally pretty cheery lot. Like I mentioned the other week, there was this elderly woman with a a 6 month old collie. I bought a collie, and she's she's older than me, and I was thinking, that's a bit game in it. That poor young dog. I mean, it needs to be out working and doing things. I I, you know, if I was to have a dog, it would be I'd want one of those, but I couldn't let myself have one of those because it wouldn't be right to keep it. Things gotta be out there, you know, barking at sheep and working for someone and feeling great about himself.
I I hate the idea of more being, sort of mangled up, but down here, it has been very gray. The problem is I quite like it in the winter. I mean, I'm not against those lovely, clear, sunny days as well. We've had quite a few of those, but the the dark has been, the dark and the gloom has been pretty good. Anyway, you know how I, sometimes go for ages before I play a song and all that kind of stuff? Well, we're not gonna do that tonight. So the question I'm gonna play one right now, And, I've got a few little things lined up tonight, I think, if I can remember where I've put them all. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah. It's a question. What do Elvis Presley and fish and chips have in common?
Anyone? No? No. No. No. Sure. Kirsty McCall. Greasy? Kirsty McCall. This song. We'd be we'd we'd back with you in 3 minutes after this.
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And welcome back to Paul English Live here every Thursday. Just thought we get a song in early there, really, what would it be? Boxing day, we're all in a party mood, and why not, indeed? And I'm here with Eric and Paul and Patrick, and, some good comments in there. I like I like that one as well. I think, Eric, you might have commented it as well. The one from Herodotus, action man deserter. That was a good present. Action man it was an empty box. Now Action Man over here, you guys, I think it's isn't it GI Joe that you had in in the states? Isn't that it?
Yes? No?
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GI Joe? Yeah. We had GI Joe.
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Yeah. So over here, GI Joe was renamed action man. What's the
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There's a gay version, isn't there? It's called looking for action man.
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Anyway, Eric, I think that's very much in keeping with the spirit of the
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day.
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I'm terribly sorry if we've offended you if in America, it's the middle of the afternoon. I'm terribly sorry, but we are British. So these things will pop up from time to time. So so there we go. Okay. Well, maybe you could no. Let's not go there. Let's cut that let's cut that, that line of, of discussion off immediately. Very, very quickly indeed. So, yeah. But I quite like that. An empty box action man deserves a model. Very good. Did you any anybody get any interesting presents for Christmas? No. I bought myself tumbleweed moment there. There's just all I could hear was nothing.
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I bought myself a present present. I buy myself a Christmas present every year. And this year, I bought myself a fountain pen. I just wanna get back into using a fountain pen because I've noticed that ballpoint pens, you cannot actually write, as well with a ballpoint pen as with a fountain pen. So I'm going back. Obviously, I still use a ballpoint pen, but if I'm writing anything like a card, a card, a card, anything like that, I'll do it in a fountain pen because it it's just got that extra little bit of personal a show to it. Is anybody else going back to fountain pens? Because, Well, I might.
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Yeah. I I have a bunch of them.
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They're lovely, aren't they?
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Yeah. Do I also would I also need to invest, though, in a Victorian wooden writing desk?
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It'd be interesting. Some, You don't have to.
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And washing powder for your shirt so that when you open it up quickly now the actually, I found that it's very, very good, but the old fountain pens used to flick all,
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ink everywhere. All up your shirt, all up your jacket, but modern ones know that there's clean You must have been you must have been writing like a maniac. What do you mean? Yeah. All over your shirt. Well I say writing furiously with your pen in school.
[00:37:33] Unknown:
Well, no. I used to I went through a phase all when I was in my twenties of going back to a fountain pen, because, you know, biros when I was in school. And, oh, sorry. No. I'm so old. No. They're slight. No. But, joking aside, I went back to using the fountain pens because, working on a drawing board, you know, you got used to using, rotary or, what was the other one? Come on, brain. No. I used to use, proper drawing pens, and they they were very inky in that. But, no. The thing is is that there's some your handwriting does change with a fountain pen, but but it's very, very difficult when you're left handed because you're smudging your own work all the time.
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Do you So do you think, Eric, that if you if you get back into using the fountain pen more regularly Yeah. With good parchment and script, All sorts of other little things might happen to you, like, I could see sort of like you might start to get a handkerchief in your breast pocket. And then That's right. Probably you might grow one of those mustaches that curl up a little bit at the edges, you see, and then you can stroke them. I think these things actually happen in due course. You suddenly after a few years of writing, you begin to oil start to look like Charles chickens or something like that. You know? And,
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you could just give a yes? So I've started with a pocket watch. I I think I think it's a kind of, like, a, a kind of habit that happens. You know? So I've got the pocket watch, the fountain pens. Oh, I think the mustache is probably next. You know, the one with the pointy pointy bits. Yeah. Oh, the tweed hat. I've got that as well. So, you know, I'm almost there. Because it looked like my granddad, in fact.
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Why why is it that those guys, right, could do that with this must I mean, I can I I actually shaved my beard off last week? I have a beard because I'm just a lazy bugger, and I've just got too many things to do. That's my pathetic excuse. I could, of course I need to become properly dressed every day. But those guys back then, you know, they have those wonderful mustaches, don't they? They seem to be everywhere. I I can imagine everybody grew one. Maybe they only took photographs of guys with magnificent mustaches that curl up at the edges. I can grow a big full beard, but I just can't get the curly mustache.
Well, a good friend of mine couldn't get a a massive beard, or it didn't suit him at all, but the mustache was really rather magnificent. So it's quite a bit of mustache. But then the mustache, of course, has become with looking for action man, unfortunately, these days. So so it's all a bit grim, isn't it? But, well, I'd be interested to know how you how your physical appearance metamorphoses through your use of the fountain pen, Eric. Yes. Yes. Quite interesting, isn't it? You know? It would.
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It would. I'm not I mean, when much slower, and then you you take more time writing, and you put more feeling into it. So that's one thing I have, though, which is the thing I do I was gonna come to that.
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You see, I think this whole thing about speed is causing a loss of con it's a reduction in considered thought. It's too easy to copy and paste and fire things off, and it's not going in. It's all surface communication, most of it. It's just it doesn't actually sort of improve your substance. Maybe schools should go back to pots of ink. Yeah? On the you meant I we had those when I were I mean, this is in the seventies, I remember. We still had the old desks from the forties fifties that were in our schools. They were, like, 35, 40 years old. They were from World War 2, and they all of them had, you know, a pot for your ink. You had to go and get your ink from the teacher, the front you know, get your ink ration for the day because the schools must have gone through gallons of ink. I guess the ink manufacturers were mortified when the by rail came out. But there is something good about fountain pens. They're great. And I always remember my dad talking about them as if they were really great things just like you've done, and it seems to be quite a normal thing to talk about them in that way. They're they're pleasant objects, aren't they? They're they're nicely designed when they work well. We always used to buy Parkers, I think it was. That was the manufacturer at the time. Yeah. And they would, of course, every now and again, have a mild eruption in your upper pocket, And your white shirt suddenly became a white and blue shirt. We used blue ink at school. We were told to use blue.
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Quink was the one we did. Right? Quink ink. Quink ink. Quite expensive now, but, actually, this isn't a parka doll or a Chinese one. And I have to say, I'm very, very impressed with it. The engineering of it is is is really precise.
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And, we're right. It's first time every time. I'm really pleased with it. It's brilliant. And it You're not one of these Chinese 5th columnist agents, are you? Expanding their enterprise at our expense, making them buy Chinese pets.
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Poor. Her
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her other son has more industrial approach. He's using quills and soot. Good lad.
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By the way, would would you like a a a medical remedy for for all these, you know, all these, nasty, colds and things? The one that I sent you to, Paul.
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Doctor von Essex. Now that sounds like a comic book villain, doesn't it? Doctor von s Doctor von Doctor von Essex, please tell us. We're all ears. Well Yes. Please do. Medically trained. So I gotta give a disclaimer. I'm not medically trained.
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You do it at your own risk and this, that, and the other, you know, use a prep. But what I was gonna say is, after the 1918 flu epidemic or alleged one, the American government put out a tender to American industry to for them to come up with a cure for this flu. And in Alban Hammer, the people that do the toothpaste, won it. And what they discovered is they found that if they got half a teaspoon, and I mean, a very mean, a very, very tight fisted half a teaspoon, so don't pile it up, into a beaker of water, warm water, take that every 2 hours when you have the first signs of a cold or the flu, Every 2 hours. But remember, the important thing with this remedy is not to overdo it. It's like shock troops to your system.
And that's on the first day, every 2 hours, every 4 hours on the second day, and then once in the morning and once at night on the 3rd day. But I've never reached the 3rd day. It's usually gone in the on the first day. It works for me. And it had, the medic, you know, the the medical people, they did tests on it, and they found it worked. And then in about the mid 19 twenties, it suddenly disappeared from the limelight, and big pharma took over. And it was unheard of after that, but the older doctors that were around still used it and still went for it. And, I found I mean, for example, on a Monday, I woke up one morning feeling very language, you know, and a dry throat. Oh, no. A cold coming on that. Do a show that evening.
So I took it, and by about lunchtime, it went. I know. It just completely went. And what it is is that colds and flu feed on a an acidic environment, and our food is mainly acidic. And what taking the bar harness over turns to the environment into alkaline where a cold can't survive. That's why you have honey and lemons. Right. But bicarbonate of soda is like the SIS. That goes straight in, like, the shock troops, you know, commandos, and really knocks 9 bells out of it. It works for me, and I can't praise it enough. But you gotta be careful what bar carbon that you buy because there's you're buying savers that you wash your floor with, and you gotta get stuff from the Cape stain in the supermarket.
It's a bit more expensive. It's about a pound or or £2 for a little, you know, part of it. But you don't use much. But don't do what a friend of mine did. You phone me up and because you see the the side effect of this is, you are in the loo all the time because it's flushing the nasties, the germs out of you. So you keep going for to the loo. And the second thing is flatulence, chronic flatulence. And he phoned me up, and he said, I've put half a dessert spoon in a tub of water. Is that right? I said, wait a minute. Paul. Don't light a match.
Whatever you do, don't light a match. You take it off off the. But, no, it works. So that it's worked for me. Minutes.
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Well well noted there, Patrick. Only took 43 minutes, Eric. Wasn't it? Maybe maybe that's for you to hold off before we got round to Oh, fine. Department. Well, I'm glad you said it. By the way, the the, the subtext for the the little note I put on today's show is Boxing Day broadcast special sprout recovery edition. Did anybody eat any did did anybody eat sprouts? Come on in the chat. We need to know. Yes. No.
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Did did you? No. Eric, seriously, did you eat sprouts? Yes. Yeah? Yes. I love sprouts. I really do like brats.
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I can cook, you see. I can cook. Yes. So so my son said, dad, we'll do the cooking, which I was grateful for, but then I couldn't eat the food anyway. So it was all a bit sort of like I was just like this I was like the the Grinch or whatever you call it in the house. It's like, just going around being grossy. And, they forgot to cook the sprouts. I said, you do I said, without green on the plate, just doesn't look right. They said, we don't care. We just want bread sauce. So, really, my lads hit on the same thing that I hit on very early on in life is that the main reason for the roast lunch is to just load up with bread sauce. That's that's really it. Yeah. And, we had some pretty good bread sauce, but no sprouts. I was quite glad of it because well, we don't need to go into it all. Although, Eric, you may take the opportunity to dive in there with the sprout report.
Xoxoxo writes, aunt Sally writes sprouts with a big smiley. Oh, is that a smiley or a look of savage consternation? I can't make out the smiley there. Sprouts there. They're a challenging thing. They're the mightiest of of micro vegetable. Little atom bombs, I'm sorry. That go off. It's an exfecturation
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emoji she's using there.
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Is that what it is? What salivating? Is that what it is?
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More more like vomit.
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Oh, it's the other way. Alright. Okay. So it's not it's not the production of large amounts of saliva in anticipation of of, of sprouts. It's the other it's on the other side of it. Right? Excellent. Sprouts are an acquired taste. Yes. With age and wisdom. Oh, I like that. That's very wise. It is. I I bought everybody about sprouts anyway the other week, didn't I? 13 before I ate my first one and wasn't ill. Quite liked them, but they they'll you've gotta be careful with sprouts. They should come with a health warning. They're serious. I love them. Parsnips with parsnips as well.
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Olds sprouts and butter.
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I I actually I I I I I've actually cleared, whole aisles of the supermarket after eating sprouts and parsnips.
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Eric, we'll have to do some if you wanna boost the audience to Fockem Hall, we need to get some video footage of you in your local supermarket. Right? Here is a normal supermarket. They don't know what's about to hit them. Here's Eric. He just had Sprouts 2 hours ago. Now let's watch. And it's like one of those hidden camera things. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. They are. They're unbelievable. It was a joke in the house all the time. My dad was he was obsessed with it to the same degree that you are. Anything that has to do with that part of the anatomy, he would get hysterical about it his entire life. I could never really quite work it out, but he he laughed so much. He was very infectious all the time. And I thought, well, this probably is the height of British humor. The sprout really sums it all up. It's, it's a symbol of of gross eating and vulgarity, and and anyway, there we go. So, yeah, it's the working class. It's the working class vegetable.
I can't imagine that they have sprouts at, Buckingham Palace, do they? I mean, apart from the ones that live there. But,
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you know in Britain. It's it's Bedfordshire. If you've been to Bedfordshire on a wet day in January and you smelt the brussels sprouts fields, shall we say, flatulence would smell like Chanel number 5 compared to what you can smell around. It's constant you smell this sort of underlying sprout smell. But, the thing to do when you're in the supermarket is to go up to the fruit and vegile. And if you just sort of had a a, shall we say, how can I put this politely? At a discretion, shall we say? Pick up a piece of fruit. No. I think that's all. Sticks vile, then put it back again. Kind of, like, I mean, a disgusting look. It takes the owners off of you, you see. Pick pick up the fruit. Yeah. That's spell. So that's a little I can,
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I I can, sense a sprout documentary coming on, Eric? I think you need to do a whole thing on the sprout. Why are they is it are they called brussels sprouts because they originally came from Brussels? Or have they got their own particularly volatile Belgian brussel type sprouts that they used? Maybe they designed it in World War 1 to lay the Germans low or something and feed them on sprouts. Just incapacitate them with excessive amounts of wind because you can't move when you get it trapped like that. Anyway, look. I'm getting drawn into this. This is very, very bad. Aunt Sally says, let's try and put some Aunt Sally writes, she says, I once I like this. I once choked when I swallowed a whole sprout whilst trying to be polite and not leave them on my plate.
My in laws many years ago, memories, yes. Well, I'm just going to start coughing if I don't watch it. So I'm gonna cough.
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He's coughing. Yes. There we go. Actually That was a cracker that was. Now look at the Jerusalem artichoke. It's nothing to do with Jerusalem. It's just called a Jerusalem artichoke, but there's nothing to do with Jerusalem at all. There's lots of vegetables like that, that for example,
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Well, the swede has the swede got anything to do with Sweden? No. I don't think so.
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What about kiwi though, isn't it? They used to call them Chinese gushberries until the Korean War, and sales dropped in America, so they renamed them kiwi fruits. They used to be called kiwi fruits. They didn't wanna buy anything that had the word Chinese in it. No. No. Because of car Korean War. So they changed it to kiwi fruit, and sales went up again. Weird, ain't it?
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Yeah.
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But, interesting, really. Oh, it's great. Well, I'm not I I never thought we'd do a show so much about vegetables. I mean, we are talking about vegetables, but human vegetables in charge of the affairs of the world usually, are we? To talk about the real thing is quite refreshing in a way. But yeah. Have have we talked about anything serious yet? I mean, we don't have to. This week is Boxing Day. Right? This is a sort of you got anything you wanna bring up, guys? Just jump in there. I I've got certain little clips and things. There was there was something that sort
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of got my go earlier this week. I got a question as as as an American. When did Yeah. Boston Day start and why? What what's the point of it? How did it come to be?
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Yeah. I think it's a good question. I don't know. I'm gonna make a ludicrous guess because, and it won't be true. I mean, people have been giving oh, gosh. Hang on.
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Yeah. Good. Well, it's a bit like, another saying, get the sack. Do you have that in America? Someone's got the sack. That means they've been, relieved of their job.
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Yeah. Well, yeah. We If you get fired We call we call it getting getting sacked. Yeah. What happened sacked.
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Yeah. They they used to, give the employee or ex employee the sack to collect his, tools and go. Oh. So they get when you got the sack, it means you got the sack to collect up your tools and clear off, and that's it. So that's where it comes from because they're mainly, agricultural workers years ago, and they had brought their own tools along. So that's where the term got the sack. Yeah. In foot in American football, when the quarterback
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is sacked, it means he's been tackled.
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Mhmm.
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It's generally a bad thing. Yeah. Bad. It's a negative thing to be sacked. Yeah. It's to lose something that you once had or or whatever. So I guess in American football, it's possession of the ball. You've just suddenly you know, you've been sacked. And then the the sacking of Rome and things like this. It's all that too. Yeah. Dragging stuff off and all that kind of stuff. I like all these sort of little roots of these phrases. The there's another one called one for the road. Do you have that over there in America when it comes to drinking? 1 for the road. I'll have one for the road. Yeah. Yep. So you're at the bar. It's last orders or whatever.
One for the road is your last drink of the night. Yeah. Well, that comes from the hanging of people at Tyburn in London. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So when the evil criminal had been found guilty of, you know, looking at a pig or whatever it was, used to get, you know, killed for anything around here 4 or 500 years ago, or they actually really murdered someone or whatever they'd done, they would be put on a cart, and, they would be transported in extreme comfort through politely mannered crowds. I'm, of course, being completely sarcastic. They were probably jeered at a lot and received cabbages and things like this, but I think they were generally protected, and they would be on a cart, or this wagon.
Right? Oh, no. Sorry. Yeah. There's 2 phrases. So and part of their last request was that they would stop at a pub, I've forgotten the name of it, and, they would have their last drink there. They would have their last drink there, and so that was where one for the road came from to to have this last drink before they got back on the road, before they were killed, just so that you don't forget it. And then when when people stopped drinking, it meant to get they would get the guy would get back on the wagon, so getting on the wagon means going t total, in in this case the guy would have no choice because he's going to be dead very soon, as he's never going to have another drink, and that's where going on the wagon comes from, meaning I'm going to stop drinking alcohol, you would be jumping back on the cart taking you to your
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execution. Your mind. So, Yep. And then getting off the wagon means you Yeah. You're,
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you're free. You escape the Yeah. Yeah. You escape the noose, and you're back in the pub because that's the first thing you'd wanna do if you escape death. I must have a drink. So, yeah. There's another kind of stuff.
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Sounds disgusting. It sounds rude, and I assure you No. Eric, a disgusting phrase from you. Yes. It's shocked. Not not rude at all, but people No. Good. And I'll show you, isn't it? And it is called, when it's a really cold day, that's, like, it's enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey. And the brass monkey was the, a kind of tripod that they used to put cannonballs on. And when it got really cold, the, the thing would contract, and the cannonballs will go rolling across the ship's deck. So that's where they say it's so cold. It has freeze the balls of a car brass monkey. It's the cannonballs. So it's not rude at all, and that's where it comes from.
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And That's interesting. I had a slight What about I you're absolutely spot on. I had a slight variation that I thought it'd come from the Crimea war where it was very cold on a over nighttime. And a brass monkey or the monkey was the case in which they kept the balls, and they would take them out and put them on the top so that they could if they came under fire, they could get them loaded up quick. If it was a cold night, you're absolutely the the brass monkey would contract causing the balls to fall off. So, hence, same thing.
Anyway, should should I try and talk properly now?
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So What about eavesdropping? Do do you do you have that in America, eavesdropping? Yes. Yes. Yes. The FBI. Where it comes from. Yeah. What it is is that houses in Britain, sorry, England and Scotland and Wales, had, very wide eaves, in those days because we had, whatland door type walls Yep. Which is to keep them dry. And, of course, they didn't many houses didn't have glass windows or anything like that. So people used to take cover when it rained under the eaves of the house, and they would earwig what was going on inside the house. Oh. Hence, the word eavesdropping.
They're dropping in listening to arguments and all kinds of gossip that's going on inside the house. So, that's where it came from. So I don't know if you Got it. Do do you have that saying in in America eavesdropping?
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Eve eavesdropping. Yeah. But as far as, the the root of it, no. I didn't know that. That's that's that makes perfect sense.
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Yeah. We're having a very educational boxing day here, aren't we? Word wise, it's good. Isn't it cool?
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That's fantastic. Lighting of a cigarette in the First World War. That's an interesting one. And they carried it onto the Second World War as well. I'm not sure because not many people smoke nowadays. It's where you was it you now I might have got this wrong. You give one person a light. You give the 2nd person a light. You share it you know, if they're sharing a cigarette. But the third one, you you you stub it out. And the reason why is the first person you gave the light to, if there was a sniper, he would get his sights in line. The second one, he would take aim, and the third one, he would shoot and kill the person. So what you did, you you you you lit the cigarette and then threw the match out so the sniper couldn't hit anybody.
So that's why you always threw the 3rd light away. And, they did the 2nd World War as well. 1st and second World War. They
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And that's why smoking is so dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So dangerous smoking. You just get shots.
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Yeah. You give away your position. Yep. Well, that's right. Yeah. They might have done that in the Gulf War. I don't know. That's I don't know. Do the many many
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servicemen smoke? Don't know. I've I've no idea. I will No. No idea. Anywhere near there when they were all signing up for the last one. I wanted nothing to do with that.
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I don't Anyway yeah. I feel, it don't feel like a normal show today because it's not really a normal show, which is fine, it being the end of the year and all that kind of stuff. I don't know. I always preferred New Year as I got older because I, you know, I, I don't know if I mentioned it last week, but without young children around absolutely full of apoplectic excitement about presents and everything, that sort of energy that they bring, is the key ingredient I always thought to Christmas. That kind of goes when you're a cool teenager and you've got to go to the disco, Not that I ever went, but you know what I mean. That kind of thing or going out to the pub. I I had so many good New Year's Eves up in Newcastle in a place called Jesmond. Absolute blast of a time up there, really. Went 3 years in a row, and it was just fantastic.
We all pile in these terrible cars that were falling apart full of rust and drive from Leeds up to Newcastle and then hang around in these pubs and trying to understand what people from Newcastle were saying, which I could never work out. It's one of the most, you know, when they're really going like the clappers, the accent's so strong. Really, I found it almost impenetrable at times. And I'm from up north, and I just couldn't make it out half the time. But some great people up there, wonderful wonderful atmosphere. So, anyway, let's hope we have a similar thing this year without any incidents, of course. We don't want any incidents, but, brace yourself. Who knows what's gonna happen? You know? So, all that kind of stuff.
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We used to stand around the fire. Family used to get together at Christmas, and we'd all gather around and have a old traditional family argument. Throw pots and pans and lamps Yeah. There was You know what? Because what it is, it was a time I think it's a time when people that are trying to avoid each other all year round have to be with each other for extended lengths of time, and very few families actually get on.
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Because I I think it's absolutely exhausting. When you look back as a when you're when you're the young one it's just amazing. Right? Everybody's kind to you and but for the grown ups like your mum and your dad having to cook everything, rush around, pick up your grandma or their mum and dad, move them here, do that. It's absolutely you're just shattered by the time you don't even wanna eat when they get back. My dad was sort of like, you know? And then people had turned up their nerves a bit frayed. We had some auntsies and uncles that couldn't drive. Seriously, they never wanted to. So they used to use public transport or book cabs, and it would take them an hour to get from one side of Leeds to the other in a cab, and they'd all turn up. And it was all very I used to find it quite exhausting. I think everybody else did. It was something that had to be done, but I think you're right, Eric. There are all these subtle little tensions.
And it just takes one little spark and suddenly it's mince pies at 6 yards. You know what I mean? It's that kind of stuff. It's very it's all part of it. But overall, mine were pretty peaceful. There weren't any serious punch ups or anything like that. I can recall when I was a when I were a lad and all that kind of stuff. We're at the top of the hour. Well, we've just gone past it. Jodie Kaye. I think I had Jodie on as a guest here, oh, right at the beginning of the show over a year and a half ago, and I've not heard from Jodie in a bit. If you hear this, Jodie, merry Christmas to you. Somebody, in the Telegram chat the other day put a Jodie k rendition of a song. I quite liked it. It's very sort of old in English. It's called tie the ribbon, not the yellow ribbon around the old oak tree. It's an old traditional English thing. I've not even bothered looking it up, but I really liked it. It's 3 minutes long. We're gonna play that here at the top of the hour, and we'll be back after this one. Jodie Kaye.
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Snow. Spring will come and corn will grow. We'll tie the ribbon with a long, long load. It is a the men who covered the world.
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Isn't that lovely? I thought it was lovely, with top hat Watkins and some comments in, from ants. I quite like that. I've not listened to it all the way through. It's very sort of English and rural. And just if you're in America, yes, we were all out in the fields dancing on the sprouts to that yesterday in our clogs and things. I wish we were in a way. It seems more Aunt Sally writes that she went camping with Jodie Kay. Well, Aunt Sally knows everyone, which is useful to know. And she also writes, pretty sure I know the guy, Top Hat Watkins, I think he's known us, that's singing with her too, been camping with him as well, and the one that's playing the fiddle.
Anyway, I don't know what you thought of that gents, but I quite liked that. What do you think? I mean, if you don't like it, say so. It's eclectic music night tonight. If we're we're doing things, we're gonna move it around. It's brilliant.
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I love it. I thought it's real it is really sort of traditionally although they say it's sort of Irish mixed, but it's just traditional of our culture. Let's put it that way. Beautiful, real nice, you know, calming sorry.
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What did she say? Recent.
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Yeah. I don't I don't know. She's gotten much better. I've I've been following her music for some time. It's she's really good.
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Well, I I thought her voice there was offset brilliantly by the backing. It's just there's a great contrast between her really clear vocal delivery and that lovely warm backing sound, and it was great. And it was rural, and the end's fantastic. So it's first time I've heard it all the way through. I always like to hear them first time through because it's a surprise to me. And if we get a duff one, we get a duff one. It doesn't matter. But that wasn't a duff one at all. That was great. So shout out, Jodie. That was a lovely song. And, maybe try and get you back on early part of next year. We've not had you on for over a year, and you've probably been very busy. I know she got very busy having to do certain things, had to sort of adjust her week and all sorts of stuff like that. But, yeah, jolly good stuff.
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Catherine tickle. She she she's nice. Catherine tickle. She she does, northern, like bagpipes, but they're an English version of bagpipes. You you play them under your arm, which is a bit different. Catherine Tickle. Alright. Catherine Tickle. She's from north, Newcastle area.
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She she's not accompanied by a guy called Bob Slap, is she? Tonight, on the bill, they've come a long way to be with you. It's slap and tickle. There you go. It's a bit of slap and tickle. Sorry. I'm not trying to be rude to that. I just couldn't resist that one. I've gotta see a band like that. Oh, I want to go now. I'm off out for a bit of slap and tickle. Anybody coming? I can't be in. Yeah. Great. Well, actually, in a way, you know, the other week as well, we were talking about, the Playford music, and I was banging on about, the organized English country dancing in large numbers.
That's that's redolent of that type of music. He's obviously a little bit more modern and sophisticated. It's tonal sounds, compared to the bands I've heard or the, you know, yeah, the bands that were playing the other stuff. I'm gonna try and dig some of those things up that might be palatable here on the radio show. We're not, you know, I don't want to sort of live 400 years ago all the time. I do it too much as it is, but, it might be worth introducing those because they're very English sounding and you don't realize what's really English sounding until you hear it again. You go, oh, yeah. That really does capture this kind of stuff, you know. So it's it's nice. And I'm, maybe I'm just at that age where I like that more sort of genteel reflective sort of sound, which I do. I'm still listen to head banging stuff every now and again, but not here on the radio. It's far too noisy.
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Well, yeah. For 1, wasn't it?
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And Yeah. Didn't I play some steel I did play some Steel I Span here a couple of months ago after Andy Hitchcock was on. We did that recording. He picked a couple of Steel I Span songs, and they were brilliant. There was a little a live one all around my hat. I probably still got it kicking around in it. We might play that later on. There's no harm in repeating things, if we like him and it's good. And as I said, it's a bit of a sort of moving a movable feast is tonight's thing. In terms of serious stuff or things that have been, no doubt getting everybody's goat, the latest blather with regard to this grocery tax. Have you seen this nonsense, Rick? Yep.
Yes. Of it, Patrick, Paul, you're aware of a newly snuck in grocery tax? Well, they're they're planning to add a lot of tax to food groups, certain food groups, to combat climate change. I don't know what's supposed to do with these people. Well Oh my Yeah. Climate change, Paul. It's very important that we pay more money to a bunch of technical oaths and misanthropes who don't know anything about anything except how to plumb the pocket of the British taxpayer. And I don't want to moan about it because, well, I do, I suppose, but I don't really wanna make the show about that because everybody is rightfully fully whining about it properly and constructively. But, obviously, what we really need is a consumer pressure group to kick this stuff into touch the minute it it arises in their head. We we've got I'm I'm repeating things again, but we have to keep repeating them. We have no representation.
These oaths are making decisions that are completely against the quality of life. They're not doing anything for us at all. In fact, the only thing they're doing for us is making our lives worse, and they're making us pay for their mistakes, which is what they've done their entire lives because they literally are the people that make all the mistakes, and then we get blamed for it when it goes wrong. And it always goes wrong, so we always get blamed for it, and we always get handed the bill. It's it's mad. It's like having sort of idiot son or daughter that just can't stop spending money, and we have to keep picking up the tab. And it's always our fault that the goods and things that they broke that they purchased broke or something. I mean, it's just what I don't know what we're supposed to do with these people. So we have to find a way of of them really hurting when this when they do this sort of nonsense. And, there's I mean, I I came across I got a report from my sons in today. We've talked about the, the, you know, the manure from Bill Gates.
Not that anything that he produces is not manure. He's just basically a walking manure producer, a liar, and, and a terrorist as far as I'm concerned. He's, he he he absolutely conforms the definition of terrorists. He's using violence, physical violence by whilst pretending to help us to achieve political ends, and that's I think you mentioned that, Paul, some months ago. That is the definition of terrorism, to use violence to achieve political aims. And, so he's definitely one of those. But consumer pressure groups, Eric, we were when I talked to you earlier today, we were talking about this mighty figure from, English culture, British culture in the 19 sixties, a woman who was at the time absolutely derided.
If you see pictures of her, you'll understand why. She came she was dressed like one of the seaside women with these horn rimmed glasses, and she was a school headmistress, wasn't she? Or a school teacher, I think, at some point. So That's right. Yeah. And she spoke like that. She was called called Mary White house. And, you said something to me, Eric, as well today, which is the way I responded at the time as a sort of young lad of, oh, what a fuddy duddy, weird, old bat that is. That was that was the impression, wasn't it?
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Well, that's right. And the, nasty tricks department of the government, as they usually do, they trashed a lot of her. So they made out a lot of stuff about her to put it in the mainstream, which wasn't true. Mhmm. And at the time, I was laughing. Oh, silly old Mary White house. Woah. And all this. But she was right. A 100% correct. And she didn't live too far from me. And Mhmm. BBC did a play about her. And it had to be politically correct, of course. And Yeah. Where she lived, I think it was near Fincherfield. It wasn't at Fincherfield. I think it's around there. There, it's in Essex, and there's, like, little country villages around there.
And I know for a fact there were no immigrants in that area at all. Mhmm. There's very few now. But then when Mary White house was about, there was 0. Yet what they showed you, was people going around that those villages and, immigrants living there, which there wasn't at that time. So Yep. Again, they're corrupting history. They corrupted it. And, again, there was taking the Mickey out of her, which is typical BBC. But if it wasn't for her, I mean, she started what was called the 9 o'clock watershed. Has anybody heard of that? Do you have have that in America at all? 9 o'clock watershed? No. No? What that is, they're not allowed to show nudity or anything sexual
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before 9 o'clock in the evening. Yeah. They have a similar thing with the FCC here and over the air broadcasting on television. They're at least there used to be,
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but it's kind of a standard thing. Yeah. I I don't know whether it's the same now, but, that that that that it was getting more and more and more promiscuous, and she had this watershed on. And what she predicted has come true, And, you know, she could see it in the schools. And she said, once they allowed what was called the permissive society, she said, all hell broke loose. And she's right. It did. So, you know, it's it's it's it's all gone.
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Yeah. So we need to make Mary great again. Yeah. We need to revive. Yeah. May maybe we have the Mary White house awards for upholding traditional values in Britain. We need to pick all these sorts of people that they ridiculed at the time. Give them a face lift, respin it, and throw it back at them. I don't know whether people would warm up to it. They probably think I'm a bit of a weirdo, I suppose. But the young people, Paul, they won't know what you're talking about. So what? You know, we need to give certain things a a go. She wasn't the most attractive personality. She was very officious in many ways. I accept all that kind of stuff. But the principle that she was arguing for is completely sound. What's occurred now, of course, is that once you allow that escalation of vulgarity in language and I'm not averse to it. I've been to work in men's clubs. I've seen Roy Chubby Brown. Right? I've been around that language all my life. There's a time and a place for it. Public TV is generally not helped by it because what I think it's led to in the main is, an escalation of vulgarity to get attention.
So comic comics became more and more and more vulgar and explicit. Now anything is to be and we're all supposed to laugh because they've just pushed the there aren't any barriers left. If you don't actually set some up, there's not that edge that you can go up to and dance around. And I think it's reduced creativity, a great deal of creativity in comedy. There's still some brilliant stuff. There's been some brilliant stuff made as well in isolated incidences. Stuff that's very dry, very sarcastic about things, which is an English way, which I find very funny. All sorts of very odd things. I watched not that I'm a massive fan of Alan Partridge, but, there's a film of his called Alpha Pepper. Have you have you seen that one, Eric?
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It's it's not as bad. There's one where he's a social worker, which I I found hysterical, saw bits of it, where he gets involved in in, I don't know, some spy network accidentally. And that was hysterical.
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But I've I haven't seen the film right way through, but I don't know this one that you've you've mentioned. Because he's a very Well, it's I I would I'd recommend it. It's there's a bit of a little bit of vulgarity in it, but it's quite appropriate because it's all set in a radio station, radio Norwich. It is. It's very interesting, and it's very funny. There's some incredibly funny bits in it because, what's the plot? A company comes in and buys up the station, and all the DJs are going, oh, no. They're gonna suck us. Right? And one of them, an Irish guy, forgot his name. I forgot the name of Mr. Carixa.
It's a choice between get rid of Alan Partridge or get rid of this other guy. And Alan, who's always making out that he's best mates with this Irish guy, is at the board meeting. Is it Paddy? Let's say it's Paddy. I don't know if I've got his name right. And he writes on the board, get rid of Paddy because he just wants to keep his job. Right? You you'll get the gist of it when you see it. Anyway, Paddy gets sacked, and and he thanks Alan for standing up for him because he thinks he stood up for him. He's not. He's the one that actually got him fired. Right? Because he didn't wanna lose his own job. And he comes back to the station the next day with a shotgun and starts shooting the place up, and it turns into a siege. And it's very dark, darkly comic, very funny, with some wonderful little characters in it, and it's brilliant. I mean, Alan Partridge wouldn't probably countenance anything that we talk about here. I think he, as a as an individual, he's extremely left wing and all that kind of stuff, whatever I might mean by that. You know? But, I mean, I may be wrong. Maybe I'm he's very bright, though. Very good at impersonations.
And, Yeah. It's it's worth checking out. It's very funny. My son said, dad, you never saw this all the way through, so he watched it the other day. There's some there's some very good funny funny visual gags. I can't really tell him, but you you'd enjoy it, Eric. So the the English audience would would like it. I don't know whether it would translate too well to to a US audience. It's it's full of extremely, English sorts of humor, but it's it's bloody funny. The sea the siege is just great. It's a bit where it's a bit where he's trying to get out of the building and his trousers get cut. You'd like this is for you, Eric. Right? This is a trouser moment. Right? He's trying to get out of the out of the, toilet window so that this guy didn't come and shoot him, but his trousers get caught on the, that sticky up bit where you put the I I can't talk properly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And as he's coming out the window, he just pulls all his trousers off so he's completely from the waist down, there's nothing there. Right? He's in his birthday suit. Yeah. And all these photographers turn up and they're shooting pictures of his backside, which go all over the it's very funny. So you'd like that. It's in it's in yeah. So you're liking it already, and you haven't even seen it. I knew you'd like it. What was it called today? What's the name of it? That's what I think. I think he's called Alpha Papa. He he takes on this role of being he he he lives in a kind of fantasy world from time to time, and he takes on this role of being this great tough negotiator. But it all gets cocked up again and again and again, but there's some great scenes in it. Some very funny scenes, and they they take the Mickey out of sort of action heroes and siege heroes and all that kind of stuff. It's it's it's quite funny. Yeah. It's it's pretty funny, so I think you'd like that.
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Yeah. But the big big problem with humor now, though, is that I mean, it's like, what was his name? Hang on. Max Miller always said and my uncles often said this, don't hit the punch line. Let people imagine the punch line. And they effing and blinding in that. That that to me isn't humor. It's avoiding that and letting people's imaginations work forward. So by not hitting the punch line, it's more funny. And, I mean, Max Miller, I mean, be not wouldn't be particularly funny to a generation today. And I didn't I didn't find his stuff very funny. But at the time, it was hysterical, what he said, because he'd go from one joke to another joke and then another joke, but never hitting the punch line. So you're just getting one punch line, and then he goes to the next one. You know? It's a bit like, well, it's a bit like the old reindeer one, isn't it? You know?
Rudolph the rat Rudolph the reindeer was a really nice old stick. All of the other reindeers used to like to lick his hoof. You know? So you're not I've not hit the punchline. It's not rude. But other pea people's my imaginations are going wild on that one because they all That was rude. That was very rude. That was very, very rude. That was No. It was rude. I said, hoof. It's not rude, is it? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. That that is that is the art. They they sort of getting around the sensors. But, did you know that, do you know the Baldy, have you heard of I don't think in America you'd heard of Bandsworth cards, but when you went to the sea in this country, we had salty postcards.
You probably see I sometimes post them on Facebook and sometimes on Telegram, these saucy postcards. And the old boy that used to do the the illustrator got arrested for under the obscene publication act Poor sod. And he was in the yeah. And, this was in the early sixties, apparently. And I think they still do the saucy postcards, but they're not as they're a bit tame now compared what they used to be. But, again, that was all in duendo, all double meaning all the way through. Typically English humor. Did you get anything like that in the States, like saucy postcards when you went any anywhere, Paul or Patrick near the sea?
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I'm pretty sure they had them. Yeah. I don't Yeah. I don't recall exactly what company would do that, but I know that, like, my I had a great uncle. He used to work at Brown and Bigelow Printing in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and they were they were known for doing the Maryland Monroe calendars back in the fifties and whatnot and that kind of stuff. But, yeah, we had that kind of thing.
[01:24:25] Unknown:
Yeah. It's, but, again, it was very skillful because it didn't actually hit the punch line. It's all double meaning, all very innocent. Children could look at it and couldn't see anything funny in it. That's the thing. That that that that's the skill of it. You know? So, anyway, how are you getting on with your with your cold, Paul? Are you feeling a bit better now? No.
[01:24:51] Unknown:
Not too bad. I'm fine. We're we're an hour and 20 minutes in. I feel vastly improved. No. It's just I'm just bumbling along with the whole thing, really. So, no. It's not too bad. We don't need to talk about my bloody cold anymore. I'm bored with it. But, yeah. No. The, yeah, the food thing and all that kind of stuff. Someone's just also sent something through, and I was just I've just lost the link to it. Yeah. I think this is more fear porn or whatever. Tesco, Morrisons, and Aldi issue urgent Christmas food recall notices. And then it says, usually, getting your money back is easy. This is not about getting your money back. This is spooking the audience again, isn't it? Festive food lovers have been issued with a warning, a warning, after Tesco, Aldi, and other major supermarkets have been forced to urgently recall a range of Christmassy delights over fears they could be unsafe. Why? Why at Christmas? Why would they be unsafe?
It's just so bizarre. Whenever there there are these peak moments where there's a lot of unified energy around a thing, there's always some sort of drama, isn't there? To get you anxious all the time. The government have got to sort it out. I don't know whether I buy anything, in in other words, buy the stories that we're seeing. All I know is that we're gonna avoid buy we have to get a list of safe retailers of milk, because none of them I think all of those, are useless now. Tesco, Morrisons, and Aldi are all selling crap milk, you know, gates of hell milk, and, we have to, you know, not buy it. So, the raw milk's fantastic, but the logistics of me getting it all the time are an expense above and beyond what I would like to pay. Not the actual cost of it. I don't mind paying over the odds because it's definitely better milk, but it's the frequency with which I've got to go and buy it because it only really lasts a week. You're not supposed to freeze it as, what's his as the bollahazid farmer Mike was telling us. You just drink it. Otherwise, if you freeze it, you kill off all the bacterial positivity of the whole thing.
So I I almost like need a rotor. We need sort of 4 of us. And once a week, someone goes up to this place and does the milk run for everybody else or something like that. That's great. That would work. I'll just say, because it's funny. Your 15 miles,
[01:27:02] Unknown:
30 mile round trip to the farm, I'm the same. It's exactly the same with me, 30 mile round trip. And you do that and that I found the milk just the just lasts one day over a week. That's it. It just goes, and it stinks to high heaven after that. I've frozen the milk, but apparently, that that that as as you say, it, it kills all the bad stuff. But I wouldn't touch anything from the supermarkets. To me, it's gotta be raw milk. But, I found a farm within 20 minutes walk of my home that sells, organic eggs, and they they know the farm that I go to. And they said, unfortunately, we can't sell the raw milk because it's gotta be sold on the actual farm itself. You're not allowed to deliver it. You're not allowed to take it to anywhere else. You can ebike from the farm. What a ridiculous law. Stupid. Yep. It is. I mean, I could walk up to this farm. 20 minutes walk. Fantastic.
Nice bit of exercise. I could get my milk there once a week, but no. Yeah.
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I know. It's fun. Yeah. Isn't it fun? Now a serious thing. Let's do a a little serious thing. There's a bloke over here. I think he might have been knighted called Niall Ferguson. He wrote a book. He wrote many books. He's a historian. He wrote a book on the Rothschilds.
[01:28:26] Unknown:
Have you ever heard of him, Patrick or Paul or Eric? You were talking about raw milk. I remember that there was a law passed. I think it was in the forties that, the Rothschilds were behind getting pasteurization of milk and other such things passed as, mandatory. That's where the whole raw milk thing went went wrong Yeah. In your country. No. I haven't. What what what's the name of the book again and who wrote it?
[01:28:56] Unknown:
He's called Niall, n I a, double l, Ferguson. Apparently, he's a, sorry, British American conservative historian, who is the Milbank family senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a senior fellow at the Belfer Institution and a senior fellow at the Belfer Center For Science and International Affairs at Harvard University. So he's credentialed up to his bushy eyebrows, I guess. I think he's an absolute ass. I don't care how many credentials he's got. He's he's he's, he's also a gift, I think, in the sense that, you know, when you come across someone and every single thing that they say, you disagree with all of it, like, really strongly, vehemently. Yeah. Well, this is one of these for me, this is one of these guys. His book on the Rothschilds will be a joke because it was paid for by the Rothschilds to write it. Right. So it will be literally useless. This sort of basic observation by these oaths that they don't realize they're in the tradition of the paid for court historian, and that because they've studied all this stuff, they must be telling it straight. All they're doing is studying all the books written by other court historians for the past x 100 years, which at the time were also policed by the same force as it's just complete nonsense and piffle.
But there is an article over on uns.com. I think it originally appeared on the Occidental Observer, by, Morgan Jones, and this got published or republished on December 22nd, so a few days before Christmas. And it's called a more beautiful future, the, a more beautiful future, the world according to Niall Ferguson. I'm not gonna go through the whole thing, but I'll just give you a flavor of it. First of all, you know that there was this historian, American historian called Daryl Cooper, who was interviewed by Tucker Carlson a couple of months ago, and he really laid into Churchill. Do you anybody familiar with that?
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Yes.
[01:30:54] Unknown:
Yes. Yep. Yeah. It's definitely worth looking up everybody. Daryl Cooper and, Tucker Carlson. It's quite a lengthy interview, but he has a go at him. And everything he said, according to my research is is true. Of course, Perkins says he's all rotten people. But the way he does it is he demeans Cooper because Cooper's apparently not a proper historian. This is sort of we also got it from the guy and I think it's Andrew Johnson, the guy that wrote a a really brilliant, biography of Napoleon and did a great TV series about Napoleon. So I'm not saying that these people don't write good stuff, but they whenever they resort to their credentials, oh, he's not credentialed. I know I'm dealing with a jackass.
It's as if normal working men can't work things out. You can't work it out. You didn't go to the school that I went to. This is part of the asshole system or the asshole system in Britain that's reigned for an awful long time. It's not that these people are not bright. They are. They've got intellectually a few marks more than the rest of us. But they become sort of arrogant and condescending, and therefore, practically useless to the nation because they just become mouthpieces for the payees, in this in his case, the Rothschilds and all sorts of other stuff. But I've gotta quote you just a few things that he says. It's not just about Churchill.
He he's got all these sorts of odd things about well, they're not just odd about race. They're absolutely bizarre, and they're fundamentally wrong. And he's like, in in the comments section on this, someone said that he's basically just spitting out the Open Society scoring points of George Soros and other commies. So Niall, if you get to hear this, you're an oaf, and you're a preening Scottish oaf as well. So I never want to meet him, because he he's linguistically very skilled and all that kind of stuff, but I just disagree with him. I'd never get anywhere with him at all, I don't think. But it's about race that I wanna talk about.
Oh, yeah. Basically, Churchill did right in going to war with Italy, you know, because it was, yeah. Okay. And I just think these people are so much short of a picnic. They've only read what they've read. I could be wrong. You might say, oh, I've read all that stuff. Because they didn't go to university, it's it's to be dismissed wrong. It's it's the little guy, I think, throughout history, you've got a tradition of it in America. Right? All your inventors and stuff like the Wright brothers, we've got a tradition of it over here. It's but over here it's never championed.
All the really great stuff that's being done, that's been done by little groups of individuals that have just gone off over here and just done it like the guy that created the hovercraft. I've forgotten his name. These people just go, oh, I think I'll do that. Or Eric Glazway was yeah. There's just guys that just go, oh, I figured out there's a problem here. I'm gonna work it out and they just solve it. They don't like people like that. These people don't like it because they're intellectuals, and I'm gonna requote, Fred Dibner, because it's a great quote. Men in overalls built this country, men in suits destroyed it, and that's the same for America as well as it is here and probably everywhere.
Yeah. Well, yeah, they are. They're impractical preening sort of look at me and my credentials. Yeah. Wow. Great, mate. You're gonna be some use on the desert island. Right? So it's a joke. But listen to this. He says, he's got 2 wives. Right? He's got he's I don't know much about him, but I just got it from this interview. He was married once, I think, to a white lady. He had 2 children by them by his first wife. Now he's married to an African lady or a lady of African descent, who is Somali. How about that? And one of the quotes that's highlighted here in the article is this is from Ferguson. He says, god bless all the children who are produced by mixed unions. I'll read the whole thing through and then we can comment. It's not too long. He said, god bless all the children who are produced by mixed unions.
They're the future, and it's a beautiful future. Wrong. They actually look better on the whole than people of pure race. Oh my, Gideon. With no dis and then brackets. With no disrespect to my white children by my first marriage who are also very beautiful, close brackets. This is the future. We can't avoid the we can't avoid this future unless we want to go extinct as a species. Why? Because population collapse is a reality for a whole bunch of ethnic subgroups. I've never heard such crap ever. I mean, it's just complete bilge. And I'm sure, the children from his first marriage are gonna be thrilled to think that, that the race mix children he's produced with his second wife are to him more beautiful.
I mean, honestly, a more disgusting thing for for a man to say disqualifies him as a man as far as I'm concerned. I'm serious. You know, I won't pay the guy out in shirt buttons. He's a joke. It's sick is that to me. You know? Do I sound a little bit animated about it? I am because it's repulsive. Then he goes and he says, there will be mass migration. There will be miscegenation. Another one, Niall. There will be more brown people. Not either one. Keeping Africans out of the rest of the world is a doomed enterprise. No. It isn't. The only question that interests me, yeah, like we care, is how do you make the assimilation process as successful for every African as it has been for my wife? That must be possible. What? They've all gotta find a university professor on a big gig. He's a goofy idiot.
And, I the thing that struck me when I saw this thing is I don't know if he's familiar what with what happened, in Haiti during the French revolution. I've mentioned it here before, but I'm gonna mention it again, and it's a salutary lesson to everybody and people need to be aware of this in history, and you won't be aware of it because it's rarely if ever mentioned. When the French revolution was kicking off and this liberation of the peasants crap was running around in people's heads, it reached Haiti and Haiti at the time was a really well run European colony. People got poo poo Well, we can even comment about that. There's all sorts of benefits to colonialism, which even Thomas Sowell points out, but, of course, they won't quote him either.
However, the main components of the island were, white Europeans that that ran the administration and ran it well, blacks from Africa, and a mulatto population, which were obviously the result of they produced all these beautiful, creatures that Ferguson's talking about. When this idea of, freedom reached, Haiti, it kicked off and released a lot of tensions. And what happened was that hellish warfare broke out. So much so that Napoleon had to send, I think it was 30,000 men there on boats. This is whilst he's fighting all these other wars. Right? He had to send 30,000 men out, 19,000 of which died. They died from jungle fever.
But what actually occurred was that the mulattoes killed all the whites apart from, I think, about a dozen that managed to escape and get to New Orleans. The other thing that they don't mention is they also killed all the blacks. They killed everyone. This is not talked about. Any chance that Hollywood would like to make a movie about this, please? Hello? Mel Gibson, where are you when we need you? These things are just swept on these forces of nature are not to be dealt with by some goofy self, egotistical numpty like Ferguson, who's not a practical man. He's lived his entire life in books writing, you know, getting great fees and getting all these other stuff, just repeating stuff that we've had to listen to for 100 of years and that produces rotten fruit.
Rotten fruit. I also think I could be making this I don't know if he was an alumni of the oh, he is. Yeah. He was a visiting lecturer at the London School of Economics, which means he knows nothing about economics. Nothing. A cocky northerner. Well, we need to be. He didn't know anything about it because it's not complicated. And, of course, there his his things about the economy are, well, we need it. It's always this thing you need them because the economy and everything's gonna blah blah blah. Now we just need to change the banks you owe. But they can't countenance that because he gets paid for by the super usurers. So it's an idea that's never even gonna occur in his limited scope. He's very precise and highly intelligent. I give you all of that, and you've got a vast array of resources.
Right. Top, well done to you. Fantastic. But he's still a twat. Just thought I'd get that in. I don't know if I can say that on air, but I did. So it's a spectacularly interesting article. I'd recommend it highly, for you to go and spend some time reading, and reading the comments which are just brilliant, very much in line with what I've just ranted about a little bit here. You're never gonna see a proper rebuttal from these people because they think that we're only supposed to listen to them and that if you're a peasant, you couldn't possibly know anything that they don't already know, and therefore, if you're suggesting something different because you're not credentialed, your opinion is valueless.
Well, for their perspective and because they're in charge, it becomes valueless because they make sure it doesn't get any pub public traction. It's it's quite remark remarkable. Here's the first comment from, DJ. There's no this is true as well even though I've given him airtime here. There's no reason for anyone to know this guy's name. He's strictly a product of the Jewish choke hold of media, which gives him a platform because he spreads their message. True? For this, he is well paid. They even knighted him for it. But they giveth and they taketh away. If he even went off if he ever goes off script, he'd quickly get Michael Jackson. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but he would he'd be Michael Jackson. Right? I definitely recommend it. It's one of these things that really gets me. There's no solutions other than the ones they're gonna propose, None.
And, as a species, we're gonna go, oh, boy. Oh, boy. Yeah. I'm sure the Eskimos would agree with him. Oh, yeah. We're all good to go.
[01:41:04] Unknown:
You know? Who's bothered about species? I'm bothered about my race. That man is metaphorically urinating on the graves of our ancestors. Oh, he's repulsive. Yeah. He is. And to me Absolutely. For saying and he's also urinating on the graves of the ancestors of immigrants because he's destroying their culture as well, as well as our culture. So it's it's it's it's a double edged sword. It really is. It is. I'm and I respect people. I respect people's culture. And as I've said many times, you know, you don't go to South Africa to see Zulus doing their tribal dancing. And they say, oh, no. We're gonna have a Scott Scottish Highland dancing here because it's multicultural. No. You go there to see zoo Zulus doing their cultural dancing, and you'd be welcomed as a guest. I'm sure you would be.
This is the thing. This is what angers me. They're destroying culture, and this is what communists do all the time. I mean, when you look at the former Soviet Union, what they did to the Lithuanians, what they did to, other satellite states of this USSR, they they Mhmm. Tried their hardest to wipe them out. That's why they moved masses and masses of Russians into Lithuania who ran everything.
[01:42:20] Unknown:
And Some there's some friend. You've got to I I really would recommend uns.com. I would recommend it as a fantastic shorthand way to get hold of some really high quality articles that are pulled in from a multitude of sites. Some of them are very vitriolic and maybe not, but some are very considered. Some are very academic. It's got a good blend. But all of them are basically positing the the voice that shouldn't be heard, our voices. The the the voices, really, I would suggest, with far less error in them. We're not free of error. I accept all that. Quite prepared to correct things, but we're much, much closer to the truth, compared to these peddlers of guff.
I mean, there's some of the comments are fantastic. Yeah. Next one. Stupid sexual pervert, corrupt, incoherent. This detritus parrots the ludicrous and repugnant lies from the Soros open society. Yes. Absolutely. Ferguson's views are one long apologetic used to justify his penchant for bestiality. That's a bit heavy. And they go on. So as I said, some of them are a little bit vivid. I have to stop my words. Right? So you're gonna have to cope with it. It's all part of the growing up process. But it's it's fascinating. The the other thing was it's like I said, I I I I was aware of him, and I I never wanted to read his book about the Rothschilds, but I will if someone knows that there is a fantastically useful section in it about the aftermath after the battle of Waterloo.
Because, again, it's the economic aftermath of that battle that's far more important in many ways than the battle itself. I've mentioned it here before. So I have heard I can't actually quote I think Mike King has done some great stuff on this. He's probably got chapter and verse on it, and I'd love to get Mike on sometime. I've only ever spoken to him once. It's probably about 5 or 6 years ago. He probably didn't know me from Adam. But people may well be aware that Ross Charles stationed a high speed communications horse relay system from the battlefield back to London, and he also had his own boat ready to go.
And as soon as his messengers saw the outcome of the battle, I think it was about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, they knew that Napoleon was done. They flew back as fast as they could through as many high speed horses with this message. And it got to Lord Rothschild a full day before the message got back to the, British military or the government here in the UK. And, the battle was on a Sunday. So on the Monday, they didn't find out until late Monday, but the stock exchange was up Monday morning, and they prepped for this completely. What occurred was, he had agents stationed all across the exchange, and they began to sell his stock. He gave the signal to his agents to start sell all of the stock held by the Rothschilds.
The other traders, knowing that he was a big player on the floor, knew that he knew something, and they deduced falsely, of course, which was what they were supposed to do, that we had lost that war and that their stock was shot and that Napoleon was coming and it was all over. So they began to sell. And as the selling swept through the floor, the prices of everything dropped, kept kept dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping. And then another team that he had in place, Next Signal, once they dropped, bought everything up that they could. As fast as they possibly could, they started to buy. And at the end of the day, according to I think it's figures from Mike King, that organization of usurers for whom Ferguson works owned 63% of the entire economic base of the British Empire.
2 thirds of it. That was the end of any democracy or government representation in this country. It began with the Bank of England in 16/94. We go about a 130 years through, 120 years. That's all it took, and it's over. It's done. The board of the lot, lock stock and barrel. That's where the power of the city comes from. So the idea that people could then choose and do things is not possible. I doubt if now if he has something in his book that goes into that in my new detail, and he ought to have, didn't he have access to the Rothschild family records on this? They would have kept a record of this, wouldn't they? You know, for future attacks in stock markets, no doubt, which they have conducted since 18/15. Why is that not in there? I'm guessing it's not in there. I'm just guessing. Call me a a maniac for thinking such a thing, but, it's very, very important is that stuff.
It reminds me of It reminds me of a book
[01:46:53] Unknown:
that my grandfather said he used to have. It was called I I've got it right here, the name of it. It's called the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, dedicated monopolists by by this guy named Albert O'Kelsey. It's very rare book now. It was done in 1958 about their mixed lineage, how they're all intertwined, these these two families. 1 in America, the other in Britain, but they're all intermarried, and it tracks that. But it's definitely worth looking into how these these people got their wealth because it affects us to this day. For instance, there's a bank, and I've I've read this from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica in its section on anti or no. On Zionism.
Mhmm. And in it, they talk about this bank set up in Berlin by the Rothschilds in the early 1800 called bleach rotor, which bleach rotor went up until the 19 fifties, maybe even into the sixties. And George Soros was a a a key employee of it up until that point, and then it morphed into what is now known as BlackRock. So these if you can trace these banks back to their source, like you're you're saying, if you trace the the, Bank of England and then the Rothschild hostile takeover, you you understand a little bit more of the minutiae of history for that matter because the people who pay the soldiers determine the war. Yep.
[01:48:40] Unknown:
Yes. If you do not follow the money in history, you're not studying history because that's all it's about. All the actions are a result of money being provided to enable them to take place. Who provided it and under whose authority? So they circumvent the the authority of our elected governments because they've been allowed to by corrupting the governments with money. It's not rocket science. It's really simple stuff. But, of course, I'm an O Fish peasant, but the O Fish peasant explanation is true. It is simple. It's easy to understand. It's just not known. Again and again. I'm glad you mentioned BlackRock because I've got a clip here.
I've, somebody put this up, I think, yet again on the Telegram group. I'm sorry that I didn't know who it was, but thank you very much. If you're not on the Telegram group, it's very lively. Some brilliant post there. Again, I wanna thank everybody that posts some fantastic intelligent stuff on there and some great it saves me having to go all over Telegram to to pick things up, and it becoming more and more of a of a resource for me personally and hopefully everybody else that's there. Somebody put this one minute clip up. Someone talking about Larry Fink and BlackRock. This is, earlier this month. Just listen to this. What's a coincidence that you think about a lot? I think about how a lot of the banks that received bailouts back in 2008
[01:49:54] Unknown:
were heavily invested in by, by BlackRock. And that the person that the US government put in charge of managing those bailouts was, Larry Fink, the the CEO of of of BlackRock. And also how one of the people who's credited with at least a good chunk of the popularity of subprime mortgage backed securities, which is the type of investment that caused that collapse in the first place, was Larry Fink, the the CEO of BlackRock. That's a weird coincidence. I mean, it almost would look as if the US government paid Larry Fink to give himself taxpayer money as a reward for destroying the world economy. I mean, it it would it would look that way if it weren't such a coincidence.
[01:50:45] Unknown:
There you go. So Larry Fink is the current direct descendant of this jiggery pokery in financial in financial circles, and there will be those families we just mentioned behind him. He will be paying obedience to them too. Nothing new there, but it's a good clip, I thought.
[01:51:07] Unknown:
No. Nothing new there. Nothing new at all? I just posted a a link to to the at least the Wikipedia articles about the bleach rotor banking family that that was the age of Rothschild. Right. I can see that. It became known as Bismarck's banker, or he became known the the bleach bleach rotor patriarch. And then in, what was it? 6 it says, that George Soros was there from 1963 to 1973. Nice. And then it went on to become Blackstone and Corsair Capital in 2015.
[01:51:52] Unknown:
A nest of honorable people full of integrity in the realm of finance. It's enough to make me cough. I'm doing that all the time. What are the other articles on this on UNS at the moment as well, which is just next to it. Maybe they've just been selected because of their thematic thing. It's also due with the money thing is It remind why did chip why did okay. Sorry, Patrick. Go on. Please speak. I'm just gonna say it reminds me of of when I was working
[01:52:19] Unknown:
for the for the, Wall Street court reporting company, and we were dealing with the 2,008 Lehman Brothers versus JPMorgan Chase case Mhmm. Of the the whole collapse of the mortgage market. And the whole the whole collapse had a lot to do with holdings by Lehman Brothers in the Soviet Union and Ukraine and Russia, which is very interesting because that's that's where this war is taking place, and it's been kind of a a stalemate of the 2nd World War ever since that, you know, the end of the 2nd World War. I mean, that place that that whole area is it's it's just if you really look into the history of it, there's a lot of intrigue going on there, and you'd need you'd need a lot of time to look into it. But the layman's whole You do. I know, Soviet
[01:53:16] Unknown:
Union. I mean, I think we've got we've got the principle nailed down, Patrick. You know, when we've talked about Hudson's work and year of jubilee, and we're dealing with this mature situation where the creditor class, I e, the usurers, have been in charge of things for far too long, and they're able to maintain it because they've got the next level of minions, I e, government, completely addicted to the cash flow that they give them. And a case in point is Winston Churchill. And one of the articles also, you'll see nearby on Uns at the moment, this is from December 20th, by Patrick Cleburne. Good first name, Patrick.
Why did Churchill have Britain fight on after summer 1940? It's bad news. It's a long article and definitely worth reading, but the bit I wanted to there's a link through to a book which I hadn't heard of written by an English guy called David Lauf. Now David Lauf has been dismissed by Niall Ferguson as an because he didn't have any credentials. Basically, the guys without credentials are the ones telling the truth. The most credentials are a waste of time, a complete waste of space because they've got to cover that. They may have been great when they started off young, but they've taken the money, and now they've got to cover their intellectual backside for the rest of their lives. Pathetic. What a waste of brains. Really, because they're very bright people, but I'm afraid they've just signed up for the wrong team. And they just talk guff. It's just got so many holes in it. And the only way people don't find out about the holes is these people are never allowed to be interrogated and to have their stupid ideas exposed. Not that I cared. I'm just pointing it out. Anyway, there's a link through to a book by a guy called, as I said, David Loff, called no more champagne, Churchill and his money. And I've just ordered the book today. I found a sort of secondhand copy at World of Books for 6 quid, so it should be with me in a week's time. I don't know how I'm gonna find time to read it, but I really wanna get stuck into it. But let me just read you a little blurb about the book because it's it's not something that would be new to you here, but this is I wasn't aware that someone had done such amazing research on it. Meticulously researched by a senior private banker, now turned historian. He wasn't a credited banker. He didn't work in the big firms or something like that. Right? No more champagne reveals for the first time the full extent of the iconic British war leader's private private struggle to maintain a way of life instilled by his upbringing and expected of his public position.
Lof uses Churchill's own most private records many never researched before, so this is the Irving approach, therefore sound, to chronicle his family's chronic shortage of money, his own extravagance, and his recurring losses from gambling or trading in shares and currencies. Churchill tried to keep himself afloat by borrowing to the hilt, putting off bills, and writing all over the place when all else failed. He had to he had to ask family or friends to come to the rescue. Yet within 5 years of the war, he had taken advantage of his worldwide celebrity to transform his private fortunes with the same ruthlessness as he waged war, reaching 1945 with today's equivalent of £3,000,000 in the bank. His lucrative war memoirs were still to come.
And, there's also a 1 hour presentation by David Loff on YouTube, which is I I watched the first 10 minutes. It's it's possibly a bit dry, but it's the kind of thing I'm gonna get a bit giddy about. One of the things he said in the opening remarks is that Churchill kept everything. His rec his archives have just got everything in it, every receipt, every note he wrote to a bank for everything, from the smallest things like his milk bill and stuff like this and servants bill through to all the money that he was losing. And the interesting thing is the amount of money he was lent to bail him out. And as soon as that happens, you haven't got a guy that can represent you. He's a guy that has to represent the people he owes money to, and that's exactly what he did.
And because of it, this shameful oath, of course, who, Ferguson defends to the hilt. No. He had to do this. You see? Because you can't have nationalism because, you know, the species and all this other complete twaddle. He's the most ruinous individual that we've had, in my view. You know? I know Eric probably agrees as well. It's difficult to sort of argue against it, I think, once you've got the information, but it's a it's a terrible indictment. But fortunately, for us, David Loft turned up and did this sort of financial forensic research, and that's where the truth is. It's always in there. It's always in the money. It's all you have to look at. You have to learn how to look at it and go, if this guy owes that group of people money, they've got him by the short and curlies. That means they got the country by the short and curlies because this guy can't lose face. They won't. They'll then betray their own people. They do betray their own people Yeah. Because they're beholden to the usurers.
Ta da. I know we're only repeating the same old same old, but there we go. Yeah.
[01:58:10] Unknown:
Thrilling. It's not very Christmas spirit y, is it? If you're quite a surprise. Pays the pipe of course the tune. It always has been and always will be. Always will be. And and it's actually their job. My attitude is the government's job is to keep people in complete ignorance over the financial situation. Their job is to actually rob us to pay that bunch of usury scammers. That's it. Full stop. End of. And this is why I don't like government. A hot stone government. No. Don't you like them, Eric? Don't think they're any good. Don't Well Don't like them? I couldn't I couldn't eat a whole government, but I might eat be out of you know? But, no, seriously, when you look at everybody that likes government. Just wait. Hang on. Yeah. I I I like the government. I think that's what we lack.
[01:58:55] Unknown:
Well, it starts with personal government, I think. I think it starts with individual government. I I really do. You've gotta govern your own mind, and the first part is to understand that authority structures lie to you. Anyway, we're coming to the end of the hour, and I wanna play one more song here. So we're we're we're leaving WBN at the top of the hour in about 3 minutes' time. I've got another little musical song. This is from England, another English song. I don't know whether you know this. It's called stop the cavalry by Jonah Louis. It's only got one bit in it that's Christmassy, but it's gone down as a sort of classic Christmas sort of thing. I haven't heard this one in years either. So we're gonna play out with this. We'll be back again same time next week, 3 PM US EST, 8 PM in the UK. If you wanna carry on listening, hop on over to paulenglishlive.com and connect either to, radiosoapbox.com, or if if you can, come on over to Rumble, and you can pester the other reprobates in there typing messages and this and that, if you fancy doing a bit of that. But we'll play you out with Jonah Louie for now. We're gonna carry on after this song. Thanks, everybody. Have a fantastic rest of Christmas season.
Merry Christmas to you all. We look forward to seeing you in the New Year, 2025. Oh, boy. Brace yourself. Here's Jonah Louie. Don't that warm the cockles of your heart. Lovely little tune. Oh, and this is another one, but we're not gonna play it just yet even though it wanted to play and did start playing. We're gonna play that one later on, actually, but that was Jonah Louie, stop the cavalry. And it became known as a Christmas song purely for those bells at the end that went on for about 5 seconds. Do you remember that one, Harry?
[02:03:22] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. I do remember that one. Oh, we've gone back about 19 eighties, wasn't it? Nineties, something like that. I don't know. 19 8 a mere 45 years or something like a mere 40 years.
[02:03:33] Unknown:
Only yesterday, it seems like.
[02:03:36] Unknown:
But yeah. Yes. Crack a little too. It was a I can't quite have a cracker, wasn't it? It's not Slade. At least, Eric, it's not Slade. Right? Oh my god. Not that one. That that is torture. That is actual play that later for you just to cheer you up. So Oh, no. Thank you. Give me a headache. That will. But how how do Pete shop assistant stand it? Slade and wings, I think, must be the worst. You know? Oh god. Oh, John Lennon. That's another one I can't stand. Oh, he started me off there. Yeah.
[02:04:08] Unknown:
Yeah. But By the way, shout out shout out to everybody in Rumble. If you've got a record suggestion that's in the spirit of the season, send it through. Anything coral that's beautiful, it'll make our hearts melt. I'll be open to chat about that. I'll just Jethro Toll. Pick the If you think it would work. Yes.
[02:04:26] Unknown:
It might. It's a very unusual one. It's Jethro Toll. He did it in 1976 or 77. It's called Solstice Bell. Solstice Bells.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
Right. Okay. We'll we'll line that one up in a little while.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
As his real name. Don't like him much as a person, but he did do some good music.
[02:04:47] Unknown:
He did. Yeah. He did.
[02:04:51] Unknown:
Yes. And, of course, is that one I was talking about when he's on the phone today? That was from a film that, Andrew Lloyd Webber wrote. And I don't normally like Andrew Lloyd Webber stuff. The film was complete and utter doo doo. But the music by Perry Comer was Perry Comer sung it, did it very well. And it it you think it's a very old traditional, German tune, but it wasn't. It was written in the seventies. Yes.
[02:05:22] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. You mentioned that earlier today, didn't you? Christmas dream, a song written by Andrew Lloyd Webber with lyrics by Tim Rice Pudding with with German lyrics by Andre Heller for the 1974 Columbia film, the Odessa file, which you said as a film's pants.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
It is. It's written by a Frederick Forsyth who actually lives up the road to me or used to. I don't know if he still does. He was a sheep farmer. Yes. As well as an author. Right. He used to sort of appear around various places in Hertfordshire. I don't know if he's still going. Has he croaked it yet? I don't know if he's still around. Who? Perry? A bit. No. No. Perry Folo croaked it a bit long ago, but I'm talking about Frederick Foolsall.
[02:06:04] Unknown:
Alright. I don't know. He might have done. He was I mean, he's a good chap, really. He's a staunch Britain, isn't he, from what I can recall? I mean, obviously, Perry Como shuffled off this model, Kyle, but have his jumpers, have his sweaters, his pullovers, whatever the he was noted for this wider range of jumpers that he used to wear, sweaters, pullovers. Do you remember that? Yes. Yes. I remember that. Yes. My mom loved Perry Como, but would always spend the first 30 seconds saying, oh, that's a lovely jump.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
And, when I was at school, we used to sing dirty words to his tune, but we won't go into that.
[02:06:40] Unknown:
No. Eric, I'm shocked. Moment.
[02:06:42] Unknown:
Yeah. So this Yeah. I got chucked out of assembly once because we sang Corn by Arne, and I would not repeat it on over here. And we had, because most of us at school where, fathers have been in World War 2, we had the army version, which, get out, boy. Don't see those disgusting words. You know? But I wouldn't repeat it.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
No? Well, maybe you'll have to do one of those Derek and Clive off air recordings. You'll have to do one of those.
[02:07:15] Unknown:
Yes. Anyway, Frederick Forsyth is 86 years old, and, he's born in 1938. And, I don't know where he still is in Hertfordshire. Might do. Yes. I think he because, to say, he I think he was a sheep farm. Yeah. He was a sheep farmer. And, yes. Let's have a look. Yeah. No. No. I don't know. No. But, yes, it's it's but the the Odessa file, it's a typical, naughty Nazi film. You know? Oh, look. It's a naughty Nazis. And, when you look at it, it's, well, fantasy. That's it. Full stop, end of. Yeah. So, Yeah. Yeah. It was on I'll tell you it was on once. But have you that I just saw that Pericomo track. That is really nice, the way you sang it.
[02:08:12] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I found it. We'll do that a little bit later maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard it. It better be good. Otherwise, I I might have to cough. That's crap, actually. It's catchy. People keep calling them, but making me pick crap songs. Yeah. No. I'm sure it's not. That's the truth. I never thought it would come to this, though, Eric. I never thought it would come to me paying playing Perry Como tracks. What's happened to me?
[02:08:39] Unknown:
I don't know. Magic
[02:08:41] Unknown:
moment. The passing of time. Oh, I'm not sure. Shit. Shit. Shit. I don't Yeah. It was good. Very relaxed.
[02:08:48] Unknown:
Style. Yeah. Very underwriting.
[02:08:50] Unknown:
He was was. So relaxed, wasn't he? My mom said, oh, you just can't listen without falling asleep, which she thought was a good thing. She wasn't saying it was boring. She just said, he's so relaxed. I can't stay awake.
[02:09:01] Unknown:
I never liked Frank Sinatra. I I I thought he's a better actor than singer, actually. I because Frank Sinatra West sung off the note, and that really irritated me. He he was only good in the fifties.
[02:09:13] Unknown:
That's my thought.
[02:09:14] Unknown:
Well, apparently Oh, Frank. Frank Sinatra. Yeah. Yeah. Up until Well, I'm not I'm not a massive fan, but in the wee small hours is just such a fantastic ballad, and it's delivered so crystal clear. It's just a delight. It's like sound perfection when he enunciates every word. I'm quite into all that. Of course, it became common to not enunciate anything and to just grunt a lot. And that's got its own excitement and appeal. I'm not knocking it at all, but it's great to have that contrast with something so beautifully enunciated and very precise and very disciplined and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I know what I was gonna I know what I was gonna mention.
Christmas day TV, EGAD. Did you catch any of the, I mean, I it caught me. I I didn't switch this thing on. I I fell down the stairs on Christmas day morning, glad to have arrived without falling on my rear end on my brains and everything. And, there was a church thing on it, and it turns out that the now the archbishop of Canterbury has legged it, hasn't he? Because, because he's crap. Yeah? It was something like that, wasn't it? It was something to handle with the priest that was,
[02:10:31] Unknown:
kiddie fiddling.
[02:10:34] Unknown:
That's right. And he'd known about it, and he never bothered to raise it up. He thought he'd get away with it and all that kind of stuff, which was a bit a bit naff, really, of him. I'm being mild here. It's just sort of typically sort of pathetic. But, there was a so what had happened was that the church service, I think, ended up moving to York Minster, but then there was another one on the TV, and I started watching this. And this is the description I can only watch it, but it says, a joyful celebration of Christmas from Halifax Minster, that's in Yorkshire, with choir, brass band, and, carols, led by the vicar of Halifax minister, canon Hillary Barber.
As soon as I read that, I went, that's not a church. Sorry. You can't have ladies as priests. Forget that. And and then he gets but and Bishop, Smither Prasadam also sells Papa Doms at her spare time. I watched this sort of farce. Right? And I I just thought this is so, it's like to undermine the whole thing. The thing that really got me was the fact that people had gone along and supported this travesty, and really the congregation is just thick as 2 short planks. You can't have a woman priest. There's never been one. I'm just gonna be adamant. I'm a pain in the ass about it. No. It's There's never ever been one. If they've ever said they are 1, they're just completely invalid. You can't be 1. So ladies, if you're in the priesthood, you're not. You never were. It doesn't matter if a bunch of old feeble minded men allowed you in because they've been told to through wokeism, you're not in it.
You're out. And that wasn't even a Christmas carol service because you can't have people in it that are not Christians. Tough titty. Read your own bloody book. And I was saying this while while my sons were there, I said these people are just complete assholes. They can be persuaded into anything. Oh, no. We're all good. No. We're not. And you could feel it as a vibe on the TV. The whole thing lacked that classical European thing that it needs to have, which is what it's all about. It's all about that. It's about us as a people celebrating this. Whatever you may think about it, the fact is that people used to get together and do this thing and it was us. That's the key and vital component of the whole thing. Even if the singing's crap, it doesn't matter. It's as long as it's us, it's genuine. If it's not, it's it's middling about with other people and women running around pretending to be priests, sad cows, and they need to be talked to like this. They're completely goofy.
Oh, no. I'm, you know, I'm Betty I'm Bishop Betty, are you? I can't think about ways of describing it. If you think this has been sexist, it's not. It's I'm conforming to the law. It's the absolute law about these things, and there's a jolly good reason for it. Anyway, I just thought I would mention that because, actually sorry, Patrick.
[02:13:23] Unknown:
Sorry. I don't mean to step on you, but I I I can attest to this as a Catholic. We don't have women priests, and we never will. It was never part of the apostolic tradition from the time of Christ onwards to have women priests neither before Christ even were there women priests. Like, you know, it wasn't Moses, you know, Moses and Aaron. It wasn't Susan and Betsy. It it definitely was different. I mean, if you want something different, I've watched instead, I I rather I listen to, but you could watch it, the the mass the pope did down in the Vatican where he opened up the holy doors, which they do this every jubilee year, which is every 25 years.
And they brick up the holy door after the the jubilee year, and then they open it again. They take the brickwork down and then then open up the holy doors. And the the meaning of it is basically to open and open up and forgive debts. And the whole thing we're talking about with Michael Hudson, for have a jubilee, forgive debts. The pope he gets he gets a lot of, bad propaganda, I think. And but he's the only European leader or, for that matter, any leader that has any sort of quote that's talking against usury. And it doesn't get any publicity for it because nobody pays attention to that kind of thing. I know. But I gotta tell you, Patrick, I'm highly suspicious of him. Right? I I understand that. But at the same time They're all flawed.
[02:15:04] Unknown:
They're all flawed. And I think when you see it when you see them intimately tell a truth, then, yeah, great. But overall, the overall context is warped in all of them. I'm I'm just going to this Church of England. That's my take. Sure. The Church of England thing, apparently, a row has erupted as archbishop of York is accused of peddling empty words. Stephen cut I I caught some of this. Somebody called Stephen Cottrell. It's just complete guff. They're they're just the wettest, most useless people. They're not in the Church of England because they're talking stuff that's outside of it. They've introduced their own little fan club and their own little habits and their little hobbies, and you're all included. You're not. Tough. No. But I want all these people to be included. You can't.
You can't. There's no instruction to do it. Who do you think you are? I know we're gonna rewrite it because we know better. You don't. You're stupid men who spent far too long studying the book in minute detail and intellectualized it all and ended up with something that's got no heart in it and it's not true to the law. It's just dead. So, I mean, my take has always been the way I sort of describe it is if they do that, it's not a church. If there's a woman priest, it's not a church. It can't be because you've got you've put a woman there, play acting at being a priest. She isn't. I don't care what she knows. She can't do it. I'm not interested in the slightest.
And then they think it's an intellectual thing. We defeat you with logic. No. It's got nothing to do. I can't even be bothered. I won't even, you know, waste my time in it. Really, really silly. There's there's a little article. Anyway, there's many articles about the about this. It says Stephen Cottrell at York will effectively become temporary leader of the church in England next month after the resignation of the archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, but he has already faced calls to quit himself. In fact, he's been shot. The bishop of Newcastle has launched a withering attack on the this gets even better. I've got to read it. It's so funny. The bishop of Newcastle has launched a withering attack on the archbishop of York after his Christmas day sermon suggesting it amounted to nothing more than empty words.
Empty words. The the Bishop of Newcastle is Helen Ann Hurley. It's like a it's just like a zoo. It's like a zoo. It's irrelevant. I mean, she thinks she's not I mean, they're just forget it. Forget it. It's just complete nonsense. It's just this complete freak show of people who are so out of whack, all covering their backsides with all this guff. I have no idea how they could possibly do it. They must obviously get a nice vestry, pawns around in some rocket suit and everything, and think that they're saying profound things. It's absolute twaddle. You hear more profound things down the pub from people that are drunk than you do from these goofballs. Anyway, oh, I feel better. Actually, it really cheered me up Christmas morning. I came down, saw that, I just started ranting. After about 10 seconds, my energy went right up. I thought this is good. What I need to do is have a good go. I have a good pop up. So there we go. Why not? Yeah. But isn't it fun? Isn't it?
[02:18:05] Unknown:
Yeah. But do you remember stars on Sunday? I didn't mean to cut across you there, but do you remember stars on Sunday? Because it's always people doing, goldfish impersonations. And, there are people that never go anywhere near the church until the cameras turn up, and it starts on Sunday. And I remember seeing it, and I was on almost on the floor laughing at the way these people were overacting singing, putting all efforts into singing when they weren't. They just looks as if they're taking off a goldfish. Yeah. Yeah. I I
[02:18:35] Unknown:
I that's one complaint that I have at at, churches is you get these people that are involved in the music that think it's a it's it's their turn to perform. It's their turn to throw a concert for everybody, and they're entertainers rather than worship you know, actually being there with reverence and respect for what's going on. And it becomes about them. And it's like, well, you may as well be, you know, singing karaoke at the bar on Saturday night instead, you know, for the amount of attention that you wanna get from it because that's what it ends up being. It's, you're seeking applause, and that's not the place for it.
[02:19:12] Unknown:
No. I just don't get what's so difficult about you will add nothing to the law, and you'll take nothing away from it. What's sort is that really difficult to understand? To me, that's so easy that a child can understand it, and therefore, children should be in charge of the church.
[02:19:29] Unknown:
I'm
[02:19:30] Unknown:
a citizen, wouldn't it? Well, they would. Didn't Jesus say, you've gotta come to me with the attitude of a child? Well, these people have lost that. They've they've they've disappeared up their own orifices, and it's all about stressing around, dressed up with all these things around their neck and droning on about stuff and not being able to speak to the common man, which is what counts, which is where the real force of it all lies. It's where the love lies. It's where the community connection lies, and it's where the whole thing needs to be industrialized. It means it's like it's almost like an engineering meeting. It needs it's Faye. The whole thing is wet. It's disgusting. And, you know, there is this there's this line that's been running around for years, which what I'm talking about now addresses this. I've always partly agreed with this. I think the background reasoning is wrong where they say that Christianity was created by Jews to turn Europeans into wimps. Well, the first bit's wrong, but it has turned Europeans into wimps, the organized church has, because it become about being part of this lovey dovey, clap happy, you know, hippie Jesus shit is an insult. It's an insult. It's an insult.
[02:20:38] Unknown:
It wouldn't it would it became separated from the state is the big problem. And the state now is is, you know, transgressing all of all of the the church's laws that was put down by God, by Christ himself. So Yep. When you have that sort of divorce, yeah, it's gonna be silly and goofy because there's no enforcement of of these laws that and and everyone becomes a hypocrite at that point.
[02:21:04] Unknown:
And they all get to change them. They go, oh, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be bishop now so I can change things. No. No. You don't need to do that. Yeah. Your job is to be the maintainer of, of the law. That's it. It's not rocket science. There was something that came up on Ria's show, recently, with Katie, Daley, who's been talking about the number of laws. You know? And it's a key point. There's about 729 in total, but it was a lot. It isn't. It's absolutely nothing. You don't even need to know all those. The 10 commandments are good for 95% of everything. They're just about oh, and I know it's quite oh, what's this? But it of course, the impression of it has been generated in people that this is silly old stuff that doesn't apply. But the fact that people are not applying it is to a great degree the reason why we're in the trouble that we're in.
It's very difficult. I I can't sort of disabuse people of their what I think are rightfully slightly repulsed emotions around churches. I have them all the time. I don't like them. I don't like them because of what they are, not what they're supposed to be. What they're supposed to be is a place like this. I only supposed to be a communication space like this. I only laugh when you mention Katie because, of her description of, Christmas decorations on the left. God. I don't wanna go into that.
[02:22:21] Unknown:
Eric Eric might find it.
[02:22:23] Unknown:
Oh, you would. You'd be right about Eric's yeah. We'll have to get I yeah. Well, it's to do with I can't remember the name of the religious culture was talking about, but there was a sect. They had this horrific practice where the males would self mutilate themselves.
[02:22:39] Unknown:
Oh, how nice.
[02:22:41] Unknown:
Oh, it gets worse. Right? So they would chop their bits off and, carry them around or something. I'm I'm Patrick, fill in the gaps because I didn't catch the whole thing. It was enough of an an odd idea. Put me off my sausages tomorrow. I know. It gets with tomorrow. Yeah. So listen. It's gonna ruin you Christmas forever, everybody. So this spoiler alert, Christmas trees, you're never gonna be able to look at them the same light after this. So I'd if you know the details, just add in after this. Christmas trees. But the gist of it manhood. Yep. They would hang their manhood on the branches of the tree, which were the baubles, which is why you have those balls on Christmas trees.
Christmas tree image ruined for you? Good. It certainly is. Yes. Yes. It certainly has been. Destroyed. Totally destroyed that one, isn't it? The idea that anybody would even do that is terrifying that people would actually do that because some, you know, dopey priest wanted to do it to just basically wage war on the souls of his so called country congregation. Sick bastards. Really. Nothing. It's just sick. It's sick. Appropriate. Absolutely. And, that's what you just need a bit of northern pragmatism about these things. The people who do that sort of stuff just need twatting, and, we've got to get back to doing a bit of that. I still keep coming back to that quote from Hitler where he was talking to Goebbels. He said, I don't know I've mentioned it before, and I don't know who they were talking about. He said, we've got to knock his teeth out. He's one of those if we don't we're never gonna get his attention till we've knocked some of his teeth out. That was the gist of it. I thought it's true, actually.
Maybe that maybe that applies to Niall Ferguson. Maybe he needs a few teeth knocking out. He ready now, Niall, to understand what's going on.
[02:24:19] Unknown:
My my granddaughter has Well, I am violent today. It's not a fucking it's a bit of peace, is it? I don't know what's come over me. That's right. My granddad is a saying, and it's a bit crude, and he say, he wants a bag of what shit over his head. And I think that's he used to say to all the politicians, they didn't like. So when he saw a politician he didn't like, he wants a bag of what what shit over his head. You know? So he just actually I mean, that you know what? When you said that, I immediately thought, how would you get it hot? That's right.
[02:24:49] Unknown:
It's a replace. It's a replace. Volume. If you bring it in here, mate, and it's cold, we can heat it up for
[02:24:56] Unknown:
you. I want a campaign for someone to sneak sneak into the White House, sneak into the House of Commons, and put whoopee cushions filled with gravy onto the seats. Now that would be fun, wouldn't it? Can you imagine that?
[02:25:12] Unknown:
But I I can imagine that a little bit. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I can amend a trial afterward.
[02:25:19] Unknown:
Yes. But you you look at the House of Lords. I mean, it's a DOS house, isn't it? That's all it is really. It's a DOS house where they get was it We're gonna have to get the place tidied up, Eric.
[02:25:30] Unknown:
We're gonna have to make it null and void. I don't know what I mean, there's so much fear porn floating around at the moment. Maybe some of it's got to come true, and it's gonna be really, really tough. Cliff High, who I listen to intermittently and go along with some of his things and other ones, I go, well, I ain't got really time for all this. It's not that I I don't doubt his integrity. Sometimes I just don't kinda see that it is necessary. About Bitcoin.
[02:25:54] Unknown:
He he really has some interesting things to say about that sort of thing that I What was it? Go on. Interesting. What's the theory? Patrick, please inform us. The theory was that, what was his name? Sato or whatever. The guy that supposedly created Satoshi. Yeah. Yep. Nakamoto Satoshi or whatever his name was that it wasn't really him that No. The actual creator of Bitcoin is Alan Greenspan of the Federal Reserve fame Yep. As the chairman. Mhmm. And he and Yeah. He had he had some really good advice back in the day to invest in Bitcoin and and these different cryptocurrencies and because look what what's happened. I even though, you know, it is a a racket.
It's it's about the only thing in town right now for international exchange of of goods. The swift swift has gone kaput more or less if for for trade between east and west hemispheres. So the the only thing left is this cryptocurrency market. And he, yeah, he had a lot of a lot of good things to say about that. I remember him talking quite a lot. And another guy that was his protege, he was this guy named Bix Weir. I think he's still around too. I used to follow them.
[02:27:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, look. We we know
[02:27:19] Unknown:
I I don't think there's anything different about Bitcoin to any other sorts of bubble or whatever. No. No. It's the same thing as SWIFT or any of these other things. It's a it's a scam. But at the same time, it's the only thing in town for
[02:27:31] Unknown:
for doing that. That's often the case. Shipping gold. Yeah. The the problem always with these financial markets is that there's a small group that know more about it earlier than you are ever gonna know. Yeah. Like, the pigeons and the Rothschilds Yep. That's it. Water loose situation. The I mean, the the thing in defense of precious metals, I. E. Gold and silver, is that if it's in your hand, you are the complete controller of the asset because it's in your hand. Of course, in the old days, they used to send armies to come and take it out of your hands as a nation and everything. And that's what they used to do. Well, that's what even today's
[02:28:10] Unknown:
militaries, type actions are about Yep. That and and energy, like, petroleum and all that. That's that's what's going on in the the the near east or whatever you wanna call it, Western Asia.
[02:28:24] Unknown:
Yeah. It's it's just it's it's still I'm not really right at the bottom of it in my own thinking, but this, unchanging, human nature towards the acquisition of wealth, We know of it from even detailing all the way back to Goodson's book. You know? What the problem Caesar had once he recognized the prob problem when he returned to Rome and wanted to get the 150,000 people off the streets and forgive all the debts. He ended up with a lot of daggers in his chest. And, you're not the 1st guy to come to that kind of fate when the the power behind the curtain as it were through it down through the ages, whatever it's been. And what is that power? It's kind of a gathering of high level of acquisitive people.
I'm being kind we call them psychopaths. In other words so their entire measure of life is how much stuff they can get, control, power, because they're terrified that somebody else will get it. I'm sure there are more and more layers to actually analyze with all that. But it's that attitude towards, I haven't got enough. I must have more, which causes the shortage. Whereas, in fact, we live on a planet of such abundance, and we've been given brains to actually transform that abundance and do all sorts of things with it. But you're not allowed to do that because this bloke can't get his cut. Yeah. And why does he think he even needs it?
[02:29:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Why does he think he even needs it? It's it's like the guilty flee where none pursue. They end up they end up being ultra paranoid and going into wars all over, you know, because of this because they think they they fear that they're gonna lose their control, so they start these wars in order to distract us from Mhmm. Whatever crime they're they're putting us through.
[02:30:10] Unknown:
Aren't they fun?
[02:30:12] Unknown:
They really are fun. And if there was a if there was a war, this is what I'm looking at this, like, prediction thing, between Russia and NATO. I believe it sorry?
[02:30:30] Unknown:
What's that?
[02:30:34] Unknown:
It's Paul. I think Paul b has a has a line open.
[02:30:39] Unknown:
Yep. Hang on. You're right there, Paul. You're right.
[02:30:48] Unknown:
We hear you. Mhmm. Okay.
[02:30:51] Unknown:
I was gonna say, they they're so skilled at social engineering that it it wouldn't surprise me if you had youth falling over themselves at recruitment offices if there's a war between Russia. Because all they have to do is have, all all wars start with an outrage. They'll have a manufactured outrage and bingo. You've hooked the public. I mean, when you look at it, prior to World War 2, Britain had no stomach. Did had did not want to go to war with Germany. And they switched it around within 6 months and to go to war with Germany. And it'll happen again. Not with Germany, but with Russia. People are stupid.
[02:31:37] Unknown:
Well, that's because they, they go for the young. And I would say that the ideal age that you need to to propagate to are the people around the age of 30, 33 Yeah. Which is, like, the prime age for most men, I would say. And those are the people who have a future, and and they you you know, in the sense that they have a long future ahead of them still. And yet at the same time, they're the most capable of changing things. They're you know, got you get to this age where you're able it's like Christ, you know, in his public ministry.
And I think those are the people that they go for. They they get all riled up and into changing and they to get to go to war because they know that under them are the even younger people who were gonna be the cannon fodder for it. And their parents, you know, won't won't be going there, but their parents will be, you know, all swelled up in pride. Oh, my child's in the military, in the air force, or whatever that it is. You know? It gives them a sense of
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accomplishment almost. And now he's come back minus a leg and an arm.
[02:32:47] Unknown:
No. They don't think that far ahead. They they think that they're invincible. That's what the propaganda is all about.
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Mhmm.
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Because you're the greatest military in the world. You know? It's exceptionalism, American exceptionalism for us. They sit and pound that into our heads. Oh, we're this great force for good in all of the world, and we're saving children in other countries from death and poverty.
[02:33:15] Unknown:
Time for a little Perry Como, lads.
[02:33:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Why not?
[02:33:20] Unknown:
Here's Perry. Christmas dream. Let me make sure it's not muted. It's not. That means a sound will play. So here it is.
[02:33:36] Unknown:
Is this the one, Eric? Yes. Just the one. Now here I go. All I need's a little slow. Starts me off, sets the theme, helps me dream my Christmas dream. Every year I dream it, open things will change, and into the cry and the shouting, the dang. And I hope you will dream it too. It's Christmas. Remember, we've got to remember. So light a light, I'm home tonight. I need you to warm me to call me to love me to help me to dream my Christmas dream. Night should all be silent. They should all slow down and end into the hurry, the noise in the worry, and I hope you to warm us, to calm us, to love us, to help us to dream our Christmas dream.
[02:36:18] Unknown:
Oh. They're nice. Harry. What did you say? Lovely, Eric. Yeah. Really chuffed. We've had lots of soft, fluffy family songs tonight. It's been nice, hasn't it? No. Yeah. We need to be reminded of that. It's good. I do. Yeah. It's a catch it's a catchy little number. And I I I mean, it's it's a pity the film's so crap, but quite honestly No. It didn't matter. That came out of it. It's great. That's lovely. Fantastic. Great pitch. I like that.
[02:36:40] Unknown:
And, I I because I I've you know, when I was younger as a teeny, Perry Como wouldn't listen to him. I do now. He quite he was fantastic. He really was a good singer. You know? And,
[02:36:54] Unknown:
Maybe a new line of Fockem Hall Knitwear could be created with, Perricomole lines all echoing his wonderful jumpers or pullovers or sweaters or whatever they would call them in the states.
[02:37:06] Unknown:
Doris does. Move over, darling. That's another one. Good, ain't it?
[02:37:10] Unknown:
Doris has been on TV quite a bit the last few days in a lot of films. Old Doris. Yes. Well, they dug her up. No. She's like No. They didn't they didn't quite do that. No. I do like watching the old movies, though, more and more. I mean, I've seen nearly all of them, of course, but,
[02:37:27] Unknown:
it's been good to watch them again. There was North by Northwest on the other day with Carrie Graham. Oh, brilliant film. That is one of Hitchcock's best, I think. He was really good in that. And Cary Grant really knew how to act, didn't he? He was he's he was the business.
[02:37:43] Unknown:
My sons like it as well. And when we're talking about it, I say, look. It's all very subtle, but the storytelling's almost perfect. The edit the the that I mean, I know it's a cliche, but the whole scene at the bus stop with the the plane that's spraying crops and everything. Oh. I I watched it. Brilliant. I was trying to count the number of cuts. Right? There's just loads. It's just amazing. And all there is is him and the guy on the other side of the road and nothing else in the frame. And it just the tension is just building and building. And it doesn't even have to be anything. It's the fact that you don't know what's likely to happen next. I mean, if you've seen it, you obviously do. Yeah. But as you go through it, you just go, there is something really masterful in the in the cutting and the timing of all of this kind of stuff, and there's there's a magic in it, and it's wonderful, and you get completely drawn in.
[02:38:29] Unknown:
I love the old films. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when the old farmer that he meets on the other side of the road says, that's strange. That plane's Mhmm. Spraying a field, and there's no crops in it. Yeah. That's right. Starts attention. It's a bit weird in there. Yeah. Do you notice Cary Grant is immaculately dressed in every frame of that film?
[02:38:51] Unknown:
In Even when he's running through the bushes, his suit looks perfect. I wish I had a bloody suit like that. It's amazing. His hair is perfect as well all the time, but is is that Is it who's the who's the one woman? And is it
[02:39:03] Unknown:
Yves Saint John or Yeah. She's still alive. She's a 100.
[02:39:07] Unknown:
She's absolutely stunning. She's so feminine, and she's ex there's a lot of double entendres, which you don't pick up when you're a kid. There's a lot. Right? It's it's got hick Hitchcock's sexual smutty references. You can pick him up all over the place. Oh. Including vinyl Yeah. Yeah. Go on. Sorry. The worst one was Batman for smart. You watch that as an adult, and he's absolutely
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as smarty as you could wish to think of. Yeah. Do you remember, you know, the Batman's I'm talking about the one in the sixties.
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Adam West and Burt Ward. That's right.
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Yes. Yes. And I won't tell the Batman gag because it's too rude for this, for tonight. Oh, you heard it.
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Pop pop, Robin.
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I think you give the punch line away.
[02:39:59] Unknown:
Yep. I did. And Sally writes and Sally writes here, chaps. Just go coming back to your song, Eric. Yeah. Go.
[02:40:06] Unknown:
Go on. I'm bracing myself. Go on. What what sorry. You didn't give the month by the way, Patrick. I'm sorry. I didn't accuse you there. It's wrong. What is the beginning? Eric, no. Patrick knows this. What is the beginning of this well known rhyme, cockrobin?
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No? Any any I don't know, Eric. What is the beginning of this well known rhyme?
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Gee. What's this up my ass, Batman? I'm laughing. I've heard it before.
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That's bad.
[02:40:42] Unknown:
Oh, dear.
[02:40:43] Unknown:
I used to have an audience. I used to have an audience, you know, Eric. People used to tune into this show and enjoy it. You know that, don't you?
[02:40:53] Unknown:
Bloody hell. I think you're gonna get banned on that one. Well, I wouldn't have said, obviously, on the radio thing. You know? It's alright on Rumble. But I got away with it on, YouTube. So there we go. So
[02:41:08] Unknown:
Well done. Well done. Anyway, swiftly moving on. Aunt Sally writes, going back to a more civilized conversation. Anne Sally writes, it's strange hang on. How I cover a lot just That's better. It's strange how we suddenly like the music our parents played when we were young. Yes. I guess it is really. I guess it is. Maybe also we were the children of parents who actually could play music. In other words, my parents never really heard music in the house because the gramophone hadn't been invented when they were teenagers in the 19 thirties or certainly up north, nobody had one. The first sort of ed home entertainment anybody got was a radio, and I guess they would have read it through that. We had a few LPs when I was growing up, but my mom and dad never went out and bought them much. They were just too busy shouting at us and beating us senseless with rolling pins and things like this. It was very exhausting keeping us all in line. No. It wasn't like that at all. It was wonderful. But I I had an electronic organ that they bought. My parents have made electric electronic organs in the seventies.
[02:42:18] Unknown:
And quite honestly, I hate electronic organs. They made sort of flatulent sounds that's supposed to sound like banjos. And in those days, they weren't that much cop because my mother played by ear. My father's music, he could play the he could play, music as well. It never carried on to me though because I got fed up with it. But do you remember those organs of the, that had very strange things, a lot of vibra wows and things like that that made these weird noises? The early electronic organs
[02:42:48] Unknown:
Yes. They were dreadful, weren't they? Hammond was Well, the sort of thing when you were about 14, if you got in front of 1, you wanted to just try every single button and just make a din, didn't you? Just wow. Wow. Wow. But it wasn't yeah. They they had a sort of cheesy seaside bingo hall type sound to them. It was particularly edifying. I didn't think.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
No. I mean, the the the the they were, Hammonds were were was unique. That they were different. I like the Hammond sound. But,
[02:43:17] Unknown:
my parents, they were very expensive in those days. That they were shipped over Well, your parents were. Your parents were very expensive. Yeah. They're quite expensive to get. They do cost a lot to run to parents, don't they? Mine mine were quite expensive too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:43:33] Unknown:
But, no. It's it's there there was a time when there's something my my parents used to collect all the LPs, these people that played these electronic organs. They always had a cheesy smile at the front of the the LP cover. You know? So Bert Higgins plays the Vibra Whirl and,
[02:43:50] Unknown:
the Leslie organ and all this sort of stuff. That's probably why I detest Come on. I can just see you now. I could see you on an album cover, Eric. Eric Vonnessage plays plays cheesy hits from the forties and fifties. That'd be great. I I'd buy it just for the album cover. It's the album covers that you've I miss them so much. When they went to CDs, they just the the album, it lost so much punch. It just did. I remember when I got sort of Dark Side of the Moon, it was a spectacular sleeve design. They all up and down. It had all these lyrics on. Everybody just went it just it felt like you were being invited to a really cool experience. Of course, with that LP, you really were. They weren't all that good. But there was a lot of, you know, intent and thought went into the design of album. And it's right that you do see. It's a bit like movie posters. If you don't pre sold a thing, you can't build up an expectation and hope it's gonna be fulfilled. It's all part of the bargain that you're striking with the creator, I guess. So, but, yeah, I can just see I always remember what was that one?
There's a that clip often in Monty Python in the TV series where they had, what's it, Jones? I forgot his first name. He's died now, hasn't he? Is it my
[02:45:04] Unknown:
Erica, I don't know the one.
[02:45:06] Unknown:
Oh, I can't remember his first. Yes. Yeah. And he was he'd be playing a far feaster organ, but he was completely naked. Do you remember that? I said, yes. It's And he goes, and he just turned around and grinned, and all he had on was a bow tie. He was completely in his yeah. I quite liked all that. Very cheesy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the Hammond Whirllets are rising up from the pit, as it were during the intermission of the cinema. Yeah. Great stuff. Yeah. Terry Jones. Yeah.
[02:45:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I think Yeah. I think that what happened is, pianos went out, but now you don't get actual real pianos because they're all electronic, aren't they? Well, they sound just like the ordinary pianos. They never go out of tune.
[02:45:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I guess. Well, we've got a real piano in our house, and it's lovely. And yeah. Yeah. It's great. My, no. My sons do, though. They both play pretty well. One of them keeps threatening to learn to read music, and I suggest he should because he's got the skills for it. I said, he he said, oh, I don't know. I said, look. If you do have. If you do it, I said, it's you never know. You might be on an ocean going yacht one day. You ain't got any money. Yeah. Play the piano. Time for a knees up. Knees up my vibrato or whatever. I said, you better play stuff. I said it's a cool skill. People love good piano players. It's difficult to not like them. It's a it's a delightful sounding thing when it's They they sound a keyboard player in a band is usually the most intelligent one in the band.
Yep. That's why I don't play keyboards, Patrick. You're right.
[02:46:41] Unknown:
My mom could play the boogie woogie on the on she she was played completely by it. It couldn't read a note of music. My dad used to read music. He could read music. He could play. But Yeah. When we had a piano, because I got rid of the piano, get this organ thing. And, my mom could play the boogie woogie stuff, really fast, as I as I used to. And you and but she didn't read a couldn't read a note of music. Did it all by her. Right. And you could you could tune to her, and she just play it out like that. She's incredibly clever. Very skillful at doing that. It's it's an art. You're born with a thing. I don't know. But it it never
[02:47:18] Unknown:
you you learn these things called scales, and when you learn those, you can improvise a lot easier when you when you know what key to play in, whether it's a major or a minor scale. And too often, you know, the a lot of music that that they play these days is in, it's it there's something to that. There's what's known as chromatic where it's like all 12 tones, 12 notes, but then there's diatonic, which is like c major or any any of the major scales or minor scales, which are pleasing to the ear. But then when you start dealing with chromatic scales, like the jazz, certain jazz type type, scales, it it becomes very confusing and you you don't have a good memory of of the melody. The melody becomes just a mess.
And I think a lot of, like, what we call modern music has has too much of that, and that's why it's not as good as the old stuff where you can sing along and to the to the melody. But if there's a lot of initial keys, you can improvise anything almost.
[02:48:30] Unknown:
I just think there's a lot to be said for the analog world, for the for the fountain pen world, for the pencil and paper world Yeah. The slow to do with a point you mentioned earlier, Eric, which is to do with the amount of time it takes to use those things to create something. It's not instantaneous. And this is a good thing because it allows for lots of sort of micro adjustments in your thinking as you're putting it together. Whereas, you know, a lot of people that are playing music on what they call radio stations, I mean, it's just it's pointless. There's no point playing it. It's just copy and paste junk. And they go, listen. I've got all these special sound effects, and we've got this new processor for this. And they go, yeah. But there's no heart or soul or anything of interest in this sound at all because there's nothing human in it. It's boring. It's very, very dull. And that this we're gonna hit that point where people just won't accept it. I'd rather see a guy, I've said this before, just playing the guitar even slightly badly and getting it wrong live than anything else. That's there's something else takes place. It's magic. There's a kind of magic. And like we mentioned about Yeah. There really is. And when bands get it wrong, that's a good thing because you find out whether they're good. Because when it goes wrong, you find out how they adjust to get it back on track, and that's always cool. And they start, like, we used to do it. Some used to get wrong loads. We just go, yeah. Go on.
Get it back on, then it come back and we all start laughing. But it's good because the crowd wanna know that. They go, yeah. You know, sort of we we don't expect you to be perfect. Whereas this is obsession with polishing everything to such degree. There's nothing left in it. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very lovely, shiny, bright, perfectly sounding thing. Have I got to listen to it? You know? I'd rather just go and get covered in ketchup and have a mess. It's not messy enough. And, a lot of that's been lost. There's a lot of sort of prissy anxiety about these things, and we can get it absolutely perfect. And nobody wants it perfect. We're not interested.
[02:50:20] Unknown:
I actually, I I worked in on the Bellys Gate redevelopment, you know, that big, pyramid type building that that that sorts now. And he was looking at basement drawings, and they were they come from microfilms of drawings that were done in the 18 eighties and 18 nineties. And they were a work of art. Actual even the north sign, you know, they didn't have pencils and things like that. I don't think in those days. It was beautiful. The the the, printing on there, all hand printed. And that was beautiful as well. The whole around the the the the droids had borders on them that were artistic, because they had the time to do it in those days. They had plenty of time to think things through.
Whereas, when you now when you was designing anything, this is just before the advent of KEGG, computer aided design, that the ink was fairly dry. It'd be whisked off the dry and bolt and straight through the printers and off it would go. Everything was done. It's a great rush. The idea that things you take a long time to design something. No. Because the design period is an overhead, which the client doesn't wanna pay for, so they cut it to the minimum. And so you've only got a certain amount of time to, to produce a design drawing, or working drawing rather. And that is the sad thing.
Architects do, come in for a bit of stick. They should do. Yes. But not always. Because it's not always the architect's fault. It's the client's fault for cutting the design time down to the minimum. And that is the big problem.
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Yeah.
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And that's why, there are so many architects that has actually have nervous breakdowns. It's very, very high. I've worked with them. You know? So let's see it.
[02:52:15] Unknown:
Well, the idea of those architectural drawings is very appealing. I'd love some prints of those. Like, maybe of Saint Paul's or, you know, some of these original for these great buildings that were put up in the 1800. I mean Woah. It's,
[02:52:29] Unknown:
but Christopher Wren wasn't an architect, was he? Apparently, he wasn't an architect. Wasn't he? No. Apparently, he wasn't. But there's loads and loads of drawings because I was talking to professor Moss about this, and she's looked into the Great Fire of London and found out that, it isn't what we're told. It's completely different, because the fire went the wrong way to the prevailing wind, which doesn't happen. And, there's a lot more in it. And she said, well, when you look at the plans for Saint Paul's, it's, all different signatures on it. And I said, well, that's correct. Because what happens, the architect, or Christopher Wren, will be the lead name of that, and it's the technicians that actually do the most of the most of them do the drawings and make sure it all fits together. It's the technicians that actually do it. It's a bit like a racing car driver. Racing car driver gets all the credit, but it's the people who put the racing car together and plan it all out. The boys in the bedroom that that that they he wouldn't be there unless it was them.
And that's why when you look at a building, there'd be a bit 20, 30, depending on the size of the project, different names on the drawings, because, that would be the team that'll be working on it. You know? But, again, if you look at those plans for some poles, they will be artistic masterpieces because they were real designers. They're real craftsmen. They're real draftsmen in those days. Real designers. There's a big difference between a draftsman and a designer. The world's different, but that's another thing. But, you know, there was lots of projects I worked on, which I'd loved to have had the time to design out properly, but, you know, there was no time. You only had a how to do it or something like that. And that's why I like working on-site because you had more time even though you would go on-site, and you was actually, you'd actually have a a a a a pad and pencil and and, what's the name paper in between? What they call it? What's that what's that paper? Carbon paper. Carbon paper. Thanks, Paul.
And you'd actually draw out a detail on-site, stare it off, and give it to the bloke, and the blokes are standing there waiting to to build, and you'd have to work that quick. That's what I actually had. But in a way, you got used to it, and you got used to thinking quickly and things like that. But what I like to but you could actually see it being produced, see it being built, and that is a marvelous thing. But then you see all the design problems that you've got to iron out, and that was the challenge. That's what I quite liked. You know? And, also, you could get out of the office as well. But, no, it's what we got now is just a concrete jungle, and we lost it in 1914.
Before then, we had Art Nouveau, and then it went to Art Deco, which I don't it's alright, I suppose. And then when you look at the buildings, everything after 1914 is rubbish. Have you ever seen the Fisher Building in Detroit?
[02:55:28] Unknown:
You ever looked that up? No. No. Go look it up after the show. Just go look at the images of the internal art deco. It's mind blowing. Detroit is a dung hole. Yeah. Well, it is now, but if you're gonna look at the Fisher Building, it's absolutely staggering. Some of the internal decorative work and the columns. It's just beautiful.
[02:55:46] Unknown:
We wrecked it with the Bauhaus. The Bauhaus School. Right. It's just soulless and garbage.
[02:55:53] Unknown:
Of course. Yes. Oh, great. We called it the Bauhaus.
[02:55:56] Unknown:
Bauhaus. And I was at college. We called it the Bauhaus because they're Well, Tom Waughhaus book from from Bauhaus to Our House. I bought that when I was about 22. I I don't know why. It's not as if I was sort of obsessed with architecture back then, but I just loved it because he just said, why are all modern buildings crap? And, of course, it's an attack on us as a people. Yeah. If if prior to that, every everything that happened in Europe and in America was a direct organic outgrowth of us as a monocultural people. The only way culture's ever created you you can never create it in a multiracial space. Never get created. It's just shit. No one's happy. Every it's compromised, compromised. And the compromised culture creates an administrative layer that has to be paid for to keep everybody happy. That's part of it. Yeah. It was Christian. Police force in the middle, don't we? We need to bugger off.
[02:56:44] Unknown:
You know? It was Christian. Yes. And as Christianity eroded from the Yes. The the marketplace, that's when it went downhill from there. Spot on. Absolutely. It's like in every decision
[02:56:57] Unknown:
and every thought and every line drawn is done by many men who valued their family and honour and all those qualities that we the good qualities that that need to be right at the heart of it. That that this is how life manifests for us when we've got those things right at the front of our mind and we act upon them. And when you've got people all of the same frequency, I, in our case, white people, that's what happens. And that the Chinese created something else quite beautiful in many ways. It's not the way we create a thing, but you can look at it and you go, well, they did that because they're homogeneous and they create a thing. Japan with all those Buddha cans and all this other stuff. You go, wow. It's very different. I don't go, oh, it's not as good as our stuff. No one says that. We go, it's amazing.
But if you put if you put them all together, you just end up with junk. You end up with London, junk, total junk. Foster needs to be, you know, sectioned. All of these Oh my god. All of them. I just wanna let's have national smash an architect in the face day. I mean, really. Yeah. We do. We just do abuse our today is National Abuse Architecture Day and really get at them because they're just I think of, like, Frank Geary over here and and I think Wolf has a massive pop of Frank Gehry. And, of course, they write all this intellectual poppycock a bit like Ferguson does with all this stuff, and they're all snotty. Oh, well, I went to this architectural school, and therefore I know what I'm talking about. Yeah. But you're crap, mate. No. It's interesting in your city buildings.
[02:58:24] Unknown:
Southbank is, like, sort of it looks if they had loads of cement delivered. So what we're gonna do with it? I know. Let's build Southbank. It's it's just white concrete everywhere. But I used to pass I used to go past the Lloyd's building on my way to work on when I worked at, the British Gate redevelopment. And I looked, and I thought, that's funny. All that scaffolding outside. I couldn't quite work out the building. And I thought, when are they gonna take that down? It wasn't. It it the lifts and everything are on the outside of the building. It's horrible. But what I used to say what they used to say to me is, oh, it's a statement. Or so is a, like, a dog poo on the ground. That's a statement as well, especially if you slide slip in it. But and, oh, it's because you're not used to it. It's ugly.
No. Look, I work next to Tower Bridge. It is a beautiful structure. Tower Bridge was designed that to me is, you may not like it. I like it because that is engineering. That's art. It is a work of art. And as Fred Dibner said, a steam engine is a work of art. They took pride in what they did. And my granddad could just about remember when they built Tower Bridge, and he said the riveters used to throw, they used to be a, like a, a place where they hit hot the rivers are. And they threw the rivets up to the riveters, and they go bash straight into the bridge. They were so used to it. And, they used to catch the rivets. Can you imagine that with health and safety today? And he must have been about, oh, 3 or 4. Very, very young. It's one of his earliest memories.
But the thing is is that, it's time. That's the trouble. It's money. That's that's because most clients, they'll get away with anything. They're not proud of their all to do with profit, profit, profit, profit all the time. You know?
[03:00:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And you mentioned Fred Dibna. I I remember in Russia when I went there, seeing all these huge smoke stacks, You know, the just beautiful looking structures when you when you think about the work that went into them. And they still have them. You know, I'm like here where they destroyed all of them. And you don't you don't have that, sense of of, real what what it takes to to, run some an an economy in a in a fruitful manner. You get rid of things like coal power and Yeah. Production of steel.
Introduction and Holiday Greetings
A Not-So-Merry Christmas Experience
Boxing Day Traditions and Misunderstandings
Meet the Crew: Patrick, Eric, and Paul
Mysterious Illnesses and Conspiracy Theories
The Importance of Taking Breaks from Technology
Weather Anomalies and Health Concerns
Music Break and Listener Engagement
The Origins of Boxing Day and Other Sayings
Reflections on New Year Celebrations
The Decline of British Comedy and Mary Whitehouse
Niall Ferguson's Controversial Views
Churchill's Financial Struggles and Influence
Critique of Modern Church Practices
The Decline of Architectural Beauty
