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In this lively Episode 116 of Paul English Live, I kick off the “Massive Horsepower (and Chocolate Macaroon)” edition with a whirlwind of stories from a busy week, including a serendipitous meetup with a like‑minded local named Tim, talk of vintage speed machines, amphibious car speculation, and a delightfully over‑the‑top Monty Python‑style passage about a 6,000‑horsepower beast. Eric von Essex joins to riff on blokes, big engines, and the lost verve of early motoring—leading us into a broader look at suppressed engineering—compressed‑air cars, the GEET fuel reactor, and how innovation gets smothered by regulation, big oil, and bureaucratic culture. We then widen the lens to digital ID creep, facial recognition, overreach of the administrative state, and the need for calm, organized community action (from food hubs to citizen pressure) rather than fear‑porn doom loops.

Hour two brings guest Jeff Roberts of ARMREG to discuss the Holocaust Encyclopedia project—its scholarly intent, contributors, and the importance of free inquiry into history amidst propaganda and censorship. We segue through British political culture (Fabian Society, institutional capture), Churchill lore, and how labeling shuts down debate. In hour three, we dig into trial by jury versus “leave it to the experts,” arguing for fully informed juries as a bulwark of liberty; everyday over‑policing via parking schemes; and practical, peaceful resistance by organizing, boycotting, and reclaiming local control. We close with some musical palate cleansers, a nod to farming and foraging (nettles, dandelions, chufa), and an invitation for listeners to get involved, think clearly, and keep their sense of humor intact.

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Take a look around you with lots of echo,   but that was okay. I think, fingers crossed, there's not gonna be too much of that tonight. I hope you've had a cracking week. Here we are right into the thick, right in the very thick of December.   And the weather's got milder, and we're all happier about that. This is Paul English Live episode   one one six. How about that?   It's the massive horsepower edition of the show. Welcome to the show.   And tonight's also a chocolate macaroon edition because that's what I've just put in my mouth.   Coming in in a few minutes time, we'll be joined by the inimitable Eric Von Essex   and possibly a few others along the way.  

Well, I trust you've all had a good week.   Well, I guess it all depends these days how you define the word good, doesn't it? GOOD.   Has it been a good week for you? I hope it has.   Here we are trolling on towards the end of 2025.   One can scarcely believe it, can one?   Time's just flown by. I had a cracking little week, actually very busy,   bumped into some interesting people this week, had a wonderfully little,   how can I put it, fortuitous   rather amusing sort of situation?   A good pal of mine,   Diane,   who may be catching this show, I don't know,   who's out in   East Sussex. I've known Diane for many a year now.  

She contacted me, oh, about four or five weeks ago and said look there's a guy in your town   called Tim   and,   I think you ought to connect up and stuff.   And so she, she said it all the wheels in motion which was very good of her. And,   I, I received an email which, of course, got lost in my email bin the other day. Did I mention this last week? I don't know. I always feel as I'm I've hit that age where I'm saying the same anecdotes over and over again. But it is radio so repetition is the key, right?   Anyway, I contacted,   Tim and, just tried to find out where he lived and we are in the same town. We're not only in the same town,   frighteningly we're about 250   yards apart from one another which is a bit much.  

But fun,   really good actually. Lots of similar Waveland stuff and there is a possibility that Tim may make an appearance   on this show before the year's out or sometime in January. Come on for an hour or so and just have a chat about things. He's very much of a similar bent, slightly different sort of areas of expertise and knowledge and history, but, I met up with him today down at the old seaside cafe,   as as one does,   with   the waves crashing in and, buns everywhere. The buns are enormous down there. I didn't have a bun, by the way, even though I did just have a bite of a chocolate macaroon.   I thought I'd bring a sort of foodie thing into it this week. I know it's wrong to actually have something in your mouth whilst you're doing broadcasting so that's why I thought we would do it. That's why we thought we would do it and, anyway, I met up with him today, had a wonderful chat   about all sorts of stuff, connecting into other groups. So it's quite a nice little sort of end to the year for me so far. Of course these things can always go tremendously pear shaped can't they? But,   I don't think so in this case. Lots of, shared viewpoints which I know many of you here share as well which is, really what it's all about.  

And another person that shares a few viewpoints   in this, neck of the woods is Eric von Essex. And, Eric,  

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good evening. Welcome to the show. Yeah. How are you? Very much. I mustn't grumble unless you've got a couple of hours to spare and moan about this, moan about that. But you meet interesting people. I meet boring people. I'm very I'm very skilled Well done. At attracting very boring people. So, yeah, people look, the result of the phone, it's just scooch me. Do   Do you know where did the Irish places work aboard milk? And things like that. You know? It's it's sort of very in uninterested tedious people. But, I found that quite exciting actually. Yes. You relate that.   Do you remember that,   Ripping Yarns,   the most boring person ever is a boring little tit. Eric Althlete.  

Eric Althlete is right.   Right. That's not the solution. Eric, you boring little tit. Absolutely.   His fa was it his father spoke French so he didn't have to make a conversation with him?  

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He did. He did.  

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Yeah. But he spoke it in a very rough coal miner's accent. That's  

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right. But I look at that,   I look at that picture though, with that bloody nice car on the intro.   Isn't that cracker? That's awesome. I like the exhaust. As I said, at a distance of about 50 miles and half closing your eyes, that does look a little bit like my smart car   from a distance, a very long distance at that. I mean, I've got 599   cc's of throbbing power in under  

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the rear end of my smart car. Yes. Throbbing. Absolutely. Throbbing. Well, for Yes. For those of you on the radio, and shout out to everybody on WBN,   good to be back again this week. We're also going out on, Eurofolk Radio and,   oh, Soapbox Radio Soapbox and Holyland Radio and Global Voice Network. Phew!   But for those of you on the radio,   the man in the picture, which you can't see,   in the top very top left hand corner, I believe, Eric, it might be a relation of yours. Really?   Ernest von Ernest von Essex, your great great cousin of something,   was part of this team put together because I think the driver there is Wilhelm Frederick von Fockem from the German wing of the family. It could Oh, that's right. Yes. Yeah. It does look like it. Yeah. And the chap on the left building cars. Yeah. Oh, men with pipes. I mean, the chap on the left, you know, he's got a cap on. Well, he he lost his cap in a, a field of cows. He tried about 20 on before he found the right one. But so there we go. And but Yeah. And Yes. The chap in the middle by the way, the chap in the middle is appears to be the only smartly dressed one. We can only see the top of his body. One of the notes that came with the photograph is the reason he stood there is that he'd lost his trousers on the day that they took the photograph. So he stood he stood there trouserless.  

It's a it's a little in joke. I think with Fockham in the Fockham photograph album, there's always someone in there stood behind something for the very simple reason that to bring amusement to the photograph. They're they're meant to stand there without their trousers. But, yeah, that's 6,000 horsepower, that car. I don't know if you're running. Thousand.  

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Yeah. 6,000. And what I like, it's got a bicycle chain from the real to a motorcycle   chain.  

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I mean Well, that's how they did it, didn't they? Yes. I know. I know. And the tires look mighty, don't they? The tires are extremely terrifying.   Yes. They really are.   They really are. They're very, very scary. Do you remember Donald Campbell,   because he's fallen personally.  

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No. But, well, he's he's at the bottom of Coniston Water now, I think, or somewhere. He is, unfortunately. Yeah. Yes. I'm I'm actually old enough to remember that. When he says it's going now. It's going. I'm you know, over he went with his   was it Bluebird  

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five or whatever he was? But Bluebird. Yeah. I remember that too. It was on the news. Big deal. I remember it had a bit. Yeah. That's one of those events early on in life. When was that? '65, '66, '67? '66. 1966 to '67. Yes.  

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Yes. I was a wee lad then.  

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Yeah. That that sent an emotional ripple through the house, And so I picked up on my mother and father's concern because I think it was on the news, wasn't it? They were filming us coming back and all that kind of stuff. And it all went more than pear shaped. It was pretty bad.   Yeah. Well, you know, if you're going at high speed But he did it. 400. Well, that's it. But the trouble is he did it.  

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He wasn't meant to turn around and go back. And when he went back, of course, he hit the,   waves that he made going, and, of course, it took the thing over,   which and, like, some people and he might he did it deliberately to commit suicide. That's what some people reckon because he had a lot of deaths. Yeah. I don't know. I don't I don't think so. Find that. That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it? Oh, yeah. He turned the boat around too quick,  

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and the wake from the first run was still running across the surface of the of the lake, wasn't it? So there were still these little small   microwaves from up, but not at 300 miles an hour. They're not. It's like hitting a curve. Yeah. Poor booger. Yeah. Anyway,   one has to assume it was over pretty quickly. Hi. Hello.  

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Hi there. I'm looking at that picture. Isn't that an amphibious car? Because if that thing had   if that thing had a propeller on the back of it, I'll bet you it would float.  

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I think it it could have been. It could have been the yeah. It does look like the tail end of a boat, doesn't it? Maybe it's, a prototype for chi chi chi chi bang bang. It looks like that back end, isn't it? The fuel tank is absolutely in the wrong spot because that would be, of course, be underwater, but it looks like the intake is specifically  

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set to be above the water level.   Mhmm. That would be the intake, wouldn't it?   Could be. Would that be the exhaust? Yeah. Could be. Yeah. I'll bet you that car's amphibious or or at least a first attempt.   Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, of course,   kicks the crap out of it, of course. I mean, I love that movie, but honestly, that thing looks like it would float.  

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Yeah. I came across a little piece of writing which I think was inspired by that car. I don't know if you want me to read it. It's quite exciting. It's not very long.   It says it just comes in halfway through in the first sentence. It says,   of her dress as it rode up over her thighs,   her slender body thrust forward by the enormous power of the 6,000 horsepower engines as Horst   hurled the car into a shrieking sickening slide across the wet tarmac.   The lion tore savagely at his bronze thighs as the car soared into the air, turned twisted, and plunged down the treacherous ski slope that no man had ever survived. Tenderly,   Eunice caressed him. The fighters screeched out of the darkness, flames ripping towards him. The sea was coming in, and though neither of them had eaten for eight weeks, the stark terror of what they saw gave them the last drop of energy to push their bodies to the limits. Eunice groaned and dark figure, the dark figure of Sharn al Shid, dagger in hand raised, hurled himself,   from the sheer wall of the palace. Horst reversed and swerved coughed and threw himself into the gorge. Never had Horst known such exquisite pleasure. As far above him, a million dervishes swept into the fort,   looting and pillaging. The colonel   screamed an order and with one enormous blast, the refinery was a sheet of flame, a wall of fire six miles long and eight miles high.  

Now that's writing for you, isn't it? If, a chocolates  

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romance novel could ever be written about a car, that would be it.  

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That's brilliant, ain't it? And that's from I think that's from Five Go for a Drive, the adult version by Enid Blyton. I'm I'm pretty sure that's what it's from. Five Go for a Drive. If if you're outside of England, you won't know what we're talking about. So Enid Blyton was a very famous,   child writer, wrote for children. She wrote about the Secret Seven, which was a pity because it was a secret so never nobody ever got around to reading them, but also the Famous Five. So that was the Famous Five, go for a drive. I'm making all this up by the way, this complete blather.   You did mention earlier, of course, Eric, that about Eric Oldway, which was ripping yarns, which was Michael Palin and Eric Isley and all those guys. Sorry, Terry Jones.  

That's actually from I I I remember this when I was about 15, very juvenile for me to read that out. You're gonna just just have to forgive me. It's the macaroon at work. But,   that comes from the,   the the Monty Python   big red book, which I don't know if you've ever got a copy, but the Monty Python big red book is full of well, it's actually small and blue. I don't want anything to know about it. And, that's on page 17. And what it talks about is that page 17 in books is often very, very dull, so let's really rev it up.   That's good I do, isn't it? Yeah, it's madness. Come on, more page seventeen's like this, you novel writers.  

So there we go. So   anyway, for some strange reason this afternoon, while being light headed, having not eaten enough lunch,   I ridiculously   stitched these two ideas together,   and thought that's the car for me. So there you go. I actually picked it up from a site on Tartaria, courtesy of a good friend,   which was looking at alternative propulsion systems for cars back in the past.   So much good stuff gets buried and knocked away from us. It's not true. I can't Yes. Get tons tons of it. Doesn't it? That's right.   And, this is part of the piece.  

This is part of the piece.  

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Well, that's quite a fantastic piece of engineering. But, I mean, I was very naive as a child and I used to think the chitty chitty bang bang was the description of going over to a vegetarian diet. I didn't realize it was a car. But, anyway, what I was going to say sorry. I think I think I think it's right. Maybe it was powered by vegetables. Although, actually,  

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in the article where where that wonderful photograph takes place don't you wish you were there? I just wish I was there. Hello. Just looks better. Caps, pipes Yeah. Noisy engines. The whole thing's a complete environmental hellhole. Just where we want to be. Marvelous.   There was a picture of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and,   Ian Fleming, the author of James Bond, as many of you may well know, wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Ostensibly, so we are told as a kid's story. However, of course, being completely paranoid about everything and always looking for hidden meanings,   the writer of the article was saying that chitty chitty,   right,   was the sound of compressed air engines.  

And   I've talked about compressed air cars Yes. Before.   Well, this is an article. I don't know whether that one's necessarily compressed there. I don't think that one is. I think that is just an absolute monstrous thing with a huge you know they used to put these colossal engines in these things. Yeah. Fiat had one that's 16 liters. I don't know if you've seen this. That's not a shock. Yeah. And somebody fired it up about a year ago. There's all these people. It takes a whole team to fire it up. It's just an absolute monster of a thing. And you just go, cool. It's just blokes and engines bigger. We want a bigger engine. Yeah. Yeah. Bigger one. Yeah. It's fantastic. It's a bloke thing. Sorry ladies, but it really is. I think it is pretty much a bloke thing there. And,   but yeah there was a there was a lot of good articles in there about,   and lots of interesting drawings of these cars. I think one was from The States,   all completely designed and running on compressed air. This one, the one that I was looking at, it was built for about $10   from scrap, from scrapyards, from cars that have been thrown away. The guy had built his own engine.  

It would do on a full tank or there were three tanks of compressed air, I guess steel or whatever they could get at the time.   Didn't require any lubrication because it runs cool. There's a compressed air engine because there's no explosion cycle in there. It had a range of 500 miles   at an average speed, this is about 19 o four, of 35 miles an hour.   That's impressive.   Right? Very impressive. That's impressive.   Yeah. Yep.   Can you get one? Can you buggery? Could you ever get one? Could you buggery? Right?   And I think I've mentioned here before on the show about '19   yeah. 1999,   1999,   sometime around then.  

I went down to Nice in France because, of course, I'm an exotic type. I had my, yes, I had my monocle and my crevasse and my cigarette holder and everything. We we went down to Nice. We flew down there, you know, we were serenaded and all that kind of stuff. But we went to, an engineering factory run by a chap who's passed away although the business is, I believe, still,   managed and run by his son. He was called Guy, g u y, Negre n e g r s with an accent over the E. Gee Negre.   Lovely guy, we met him.   He used to be in charge of valve timing for Renault Formula One engines in the 80s when they were in early 90s. So he knew his stuff.  

And, the valves on those f one engines were,   running on compressed air.   So he became a compressed air guy and it taps into this article. In fact, I think they've got a video of it later on in the article,   where they talk about this Polish engineer. There was another as well who designed compressed engines about 1894.   So the late eighteen hundreds,   they designed these engines that run on compressed air.   And,   his cars are just fantastic. You know, they are a solution   to all of the problems that the politicians   lie about that we have. We don't actually have these problems, but if you say that we do,   right, then it solves them all. So why is it not being implemented? Because there's no room in it for big oil.  



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So far, far.   Well, look at what right. Well, Richard Vobes, he invent he he he didn't invent. He he interviewed a chappie.   And I remember this product in the   late seventies, early eighties. There's this product that came out   that what you did, you clamped something to the,   pipe that went to your then carburetors.   Okay. Yep. And what this gizmo did,   it actually,   did something   to the fuel   where you had the same performance, but you use less fuel.   And it was tested   by   senior mechanics and that, and local councils was beginning to put it on their lorries because it was saving so much money.   And then suddenly,   it was,   there was a clampdown   on it.  

And,   it it's a very complicated story.   And bad press started on it saying it's a gimmick and things like that when it wasn't. Yeah. And the poor soul   went bust, and it was never seen again.  

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Do you know what I think it was that you're talking about? Or, it might be this.   Wasn't it a series of mag magnets That's it. That went around the fuel line? And what they did was they aligned the atoms of the fuel up, can they align?   So they they exposed more of their surface explosive area to the cycle, so you required less fuel. They they basically made the fuel   more explodable,   I think. Something like that. You can get more energy out of the fuel by effectively lining the atoms up. You're just using a magnet that went over the fuel pipe to   lining the atoms up. You're just using a magnet that went over the fuel pipe to some degree in very simple terms, you know, I didn't see the whole thing. Yeah, and a great reduction in emissions because it was burning more of the fuel off inside the engine and translating it into power, less crap coming out of the back end.  

All these things have been solved. We it's like we've said here before,   I think practically everything that we're told about that's a problem has been solved in the past.   Somehow we seem to have hit a brick wall with engineering. I don't believe that for a minute. It's complete crap. And, of course, it's the interference of the usual  

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money, busybodies wrecking everything. And regulations. And again and again. Yeah. I mean, that vehicle could have been taken on the open road without any problems at all, and it wouldn't have bothered anybody.   We might might have frightened the horses, but that's about it. You know? And   the thing is people were allowed to be creative.   We're no longer allowed to be creative with anything now. Everything is rules and regulations.   Look at how bland cars are. There's no  

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Yep. Zestful,  

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you know, engineering   prowess and things like that. Men I want those, don't you?   I do. I walk. Bloody hell.  

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I mean that size of that steering wheel. That air car.  

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I want one. Yeah?   Oh, I I tell you I tell you something. That that that will keep the population down if you got if you had a head on collision with that. I mean, that that is steering, would it? You're right in the,  

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tee Yep. Wouldn't it? But, that You'd have flown right flown right over that bonnet. Maybe there's got a catcher at the front of the bonnet to catch the passengers as they're injected from the driving seat. No safety belts. We don't want any of that. It's all a bit too restrictive.   I mean, if you go back and look at those old motor racing things when they really got going with cars in the early nineteen hundreds Oh, yeah. They just didn't come out. They're just maniacs. Yeah. It's fantastic. They're maniacs. It's just but you can understand the addiction of it. Well, you can. And they're going. And, the they used to have to have a bloke to pump the oil around  

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because they didn't have an oil pump. So you had to pump the oil around around the engine as it is going along. We had to have two people. But the thing is,   that air car, I went into that very deeply. It is bloody interesting. The bloke had actually made a breakthrough,   but he can't get anywhere with it. And,   because,   again,   it's the usual,   crowd that,   it's big industry that just put a clamp on it. I mean, look at Tesla's free energy, which he got from the ether.   Yeah.   They destroyed his tower and everything.  

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Mhmm.  

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And But I I know that they have a manufacturing plant down there still, and I think they're still making them. They've probably evolved it a bit. So is this not and you could probably apply this to all of the things that we tend to look at here in terms of, you know, the physical realm, I. E. Kit, bits of stuff that we need, like motorized transportation, pretty pretty important. Right?   Don't we need to or   it seems to suggest to me that   the model that Mark is rolling out for Foodhub,   right Yeah.   Which is a direct connection between end user, I. E. The people that eat food, and the producer, I. E. The farmer, is something that we need to find a way of rolling out everywhere. In other words, let's suppose the audience for this was colossal. Of course, it is really. I I noticed. I don't believe the figures.   By colossal, I mean, in the millions. Right? And we said, right, we're gonna form a club and we all we, everybody puts in like a £100 so we get a £100,000,000 and we go down to Nagrand, we go we all want a car, we need we need a million cars from you in the next five years or whatever, get going with it.  

We'll top it up as they come through because they're cheap as chips. They're actually glued together.   That's right. You know, mega glue.   They're made out of carbon fiber or something like that. They're glued like Lotus. In fact, I know that they went to the Lotus factory   to study because Lotus are noted for making cars that don't weigh anything.   And this means that they've got a very high power to weight ratio, which means they use a lot less fuel.   If you've just got a standard engine in it, it doesn't have to, you know,   move four tons of metal around the road all over the place and stuff like this. So and I'm just look I know I'm spitballing is that the word? But,   I'm just throwing it out there with, you know, we're throwing it at the dartboard all that kind of stuff we're seeing what sticks but that would be the way for us to go, you know, a consumer purchasing group. Not only does this with a pressure group. And also, you drive them around. If the police stop you, we get our police along to tell them to clear off and keep because we are on the open road. We can drive. And that's it. Blindly pause us.  

Yes.  

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You know, we don't we don't want government,   gangsters stopping us. We we we do our own thing.   When I looked at those cars, I thought they were brilliant. I mean, some of the designs   were fantastic. Where the in the, driver sits in the forward position, and there's two passengers that sit with their back to him looking rearwards,   which is very unusual.   And   they were something like was it 50 cc or 52 cc? Very low cc.   Very, very low. Mhmm. But he he the the the cars   were   really lightweight, and actually they were featured on Top Gear. Remember BBC's Top Gear? And Yep. Where did it all go? Again, we still haven't seen them.   This idea of electric cars is just a complete and utter joke. It really is.  

I was thinking, you know, going down to Cornwall, you've only got on the range of about hundred, hundred and fifty miles.   That means that if I it's about 300 miles from me, Cornwall, that means I'd have to sort of stop a couple of times and wait around for a couple of a couple of hours whilst the bloody thing's charging up. And I'm paying a small fortune for it more than what I pay for petrol.   What's the point?   I know. It's it's just bonkers.  

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Yeah. And I well, you're right. I mean, I remember,   I think,   with the MDI, that's Monsieur Negre's   company MDI, I forgot what it stands for something French obviously, French words, but,   they   they were evolving it even when we went down there. I mean my mate Norbert,   I've got video footage of it somewhere kicking around on an old video camera, so it's twenty five years back.   But we're in the yard. They've got this thing firing and he literally put his mouth sealed completely around the exhaust pipe.   Wow. Because what's coming out of the back end   is better air than it's pulling out of the atmosphere. It's got these filters in it. So as you run it round a polluted area   it actually cleans the air up, it's like an air filter literally. And you say and you say You just run them everywhere.  

Yeah, it's literally a mobile air conditioning unit that you can drive around in.   Oh, well we can't have that then.   But,   they, yeah, so they done they did they done that, they done it, you see? And also,   what was the other thing that they've done? Oh yeah, they did bring a little bit of petrol into it, like a microscopic amount.   Just like we were talking about those magnets lining the fuel up,   they actually got a section of the metal pipe, the air pipe,   and they clamped around it. They, sort of literally a naked flame. I mean, it wasn't literally sort of floating all over the place. And it was powered a bit like a lamp, you know, you just put a bit of fuel in there. So what happened was that this air was coming out of the tank and when it hit this bit it would get heated up really quickly through a thin part of the pipe,   rapidly. This means it expanded even more so you got more power and you didn't use as much air from your storage tank. So it increased the range and the power   and it was like a microscopic cost. It had an onboard air pump.  

So I think that, I mean this is, I'm talking twenty years ago now, it's because electricity you have to mortgage your house to pay your electric bill at you or something these days. But I was glad you were they had an onboard electric pump. Yeah. You'd come in. A bit like when they do   these days with electric cars, they recharge them on the overnight rate. It was something like you could recharge the entire tank and recompress it for another 250   miles of motoring   for I believe at the time 8p.   8 p.   Eight   p.  

So the idea that there aren't any solutions to this anyway, I know we're all preaching preaching to the converted here aren't we? But   I I mean I I keep coming down to I'm always trying to think of sort of little ways to simplify everything. The frustration that we all have in every area   is left alone we could solve 90% of our problems.   I agree. But we're not left alone! They won't let us solve them because the official regulated one is the only solution, don't you know?   And if you start regulating yourself and organizing yourself, this control   culture   it's in everywhere. It's in the food, as Mark has pointed out. There's a control culture.  

Certainly in finance, that's the big, you know, that's the big brother of them all really, that's the big control mechanism. But then it spreads into industry and everywhere else, so you can't have this, you can't have that. We We have to set up a regulatory body. You have to pay a license fee. You're gonna be taxed on this. No wonder we can't solve out.  

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Well, that's right. Well, look what they're gonna have for asylum. What they're gonna have in,   a London borough. I think it's   Chelsea or somewhere around there. They're gonna have drones going up and down the High Street. Now drones sound like   a a a a a wasp, a a pregnant wasp on on on on speeds.   So as you're walking down the High Street, you're gonna have drones, and it's to keep everybody safe from crime. You see? These drones going up and down. Plus Yeah. Facial recognition with the police. So that's gonna be a a real fun time, ain't it? So you're walking down the high street, so you've got fake facial recognition looking at you. You're any bleeding drones flying over the top.  

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How how how lovely, I don't think. Yippee. Paul, you're gonna say something. That was a good point, Eric. Yeah. Paul's. Yeah. That that fuel system you were talking about or that engine you were talking about, this sounds like it's very similar to something that Paul Pantone,   invented,   decades ago. And it was called Yeah. Yeah. I think this is the GEET reactor. I think that name rings a bell, Paul. Absolutely. It was it's the GEET Yeah. Is the GEET fuel reactor, and, basically, what it does is it makes an engine run on 80% water and 20%   carbon based fuel. And I'm talking any   carbon based fuel. Mhmm.  

Crude oil,   used motor oil, old fry fat,   gasoline, diesel, kerosene, doesn't matter.   And   even if it's old gasoline, it'll still burn it. And what it does Mhmm. Is it draws the intake air through a bubbler system   carbon based fuel film. And then they go into   the the reactor accelerator, which is a small tube with a   rattler rod inside   that not only   radically increases the pressure, but dramatically increases the speed of the fuel heading toward the intake manifold.   And outside of that pipe is where the exhaust goes. The exhaust is plumbed from the engine through the outside of that pipe to preheat the fuel on its way in.   And he had,   it was, eight horsepower,   engine that he used to demonstrate it.  

It would exhaust   more oxygen than it took in. You could put a white Kleenex in front of the exhaust pipe and it would never   ever char. It would never ever   get,   carboned up.   And after   two hundred or two thousand hours or something like that demonstrating the engine, they tore it down. And what it looked like inside was like a brand new engine. There was no degradation in the oil. They never changed it. There was no carbon buildup in the engine whatsoever.   And they just put it back together again and   the thing would run on 80% water.   And Count me in. If you search for GEET, g e e t, fuel reactor,   you can actually find   the patents and you can find the plans   because to save his own life, he released   up to the 20 horsepower   model   to Right. The,   to the open air.  

He made a he's he released it to the public domain.   So anybody can build one,   you know,   and,   all you have to do to take the 20 horsepower one and scale it up   is just scale the parts up. That's it. And then you can fit one to your motor car. So anyway,  

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I love that. So, well, there is an invitation to everybody listening, Paul, I think. Anybody out there is an enterprising   administrator and organizer of groups. That's really what's needed.   You know, these ideas, I'd support these with what little fiscal,   you know, power I've got. I would do it.  

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You know, I had an idea, though. That we could  

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you know, what what's your idea? Small the small 20 horsepower  

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model?   Mhmm. You could take those exact plants and you could put them on a generator and you could actually muffle the generator and run it inside your house   because it doesn't exhaust hydrocarbons.   It exhausts oxygen.   So would you would have your little engine that always ran with a generator head, and you're powering your entire house   on 80%   water.  

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Come on, people. We've gotta get people to win it. We've gotta get to it. Yeah. Anybody that's got an engineering bent or a bent engineer, something like that, that's what we need. We need to get on. Yeah. Absolutely.   Eric, you just brought up the thing about facial ID and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Rupert   Lowe was talking,   I'm gonna play this a couple of minutes long,   because I like the way this guy talks. He's one of the few people out there. Whatever you may think, I like the way he's talking at the moment. You know, you never can tell. This is him talking about what's happening over here recently.  

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We live in a country where the state can't even run a basic IT system   without losing data   remember   that I certainly do not trust this government.   And let us remember, once government gets a new power, it never gives it back. It expands and evolves.   Digital ID will not stop approving who you are.   It will creep into travel, banking,   housing,   benefits, even voting.   Today, it's voluntary.   Tomorrow, it will be required for security reasons.   The day after that, you won't be able to access basic services without it, all for your own good, remember.   Britain is supposed to be a country where the government serves the people, not the other way around.  

A country built on privacy,   liberty, and trust.   British people just want the government to leave them alone   and get get out of their lives, to build a business,   raise a family, and live in peace.   Digital ID treats every citizen as a suspect.   It assumes that the state has the right to look over your shoulder.   You defend it by severely limiting the power of the state,   not radically expanding it.   Abolishing jury trials,   canceling elections,   implementing facial recognition,   and now this.   This incoming dystopian future   must be resisted.  

I will be holding my own protest   against this creeping move towards George Orwell's Animal Farm.   I will simply not comply.   I will not be downloading a digital ID.   I urge other MPs to commit to do the same.   The solution is obvious.   I'll just have to reinvest in a Nokia.   I preferred preferred the simplicity of it anyway.   The sound people of Great Yarmouth   do not want digital ID.   Thank you.  

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Any disagreements there, lads?  

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Nope.  

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No. The trouble is he's a politician, and they politicians say one thing one moment to get votes and another thing another moment. Look at Tony Blair. But you you can't vote for him, you see. This is what I'm say I mean, he is as a local MP in Great Yarmouth as an independent, I believe, but he doesn't have a political party. This is why I find him at the moment interesting.   You know? Yes. I've nominally named him as being in the political party that doesn't exist because I'm like that. I'm a cheeky, assumptive sort of guy at times. Right? But he is.   This political party that does not exist on a sheet of paper actually exists   all over the place in conversations that are increasing   and becoming much clearer from   normal people all over the place. When I met up with Tim today, we were talking about this, and he's not the only person I've had this discussion with. I don't know if you've noticed it.  

The questioning   the question mark is becoming more and more people's friend. They're beginning to use it again. You know, they're beginning to sense something. I I think we are on the cusp. I mean, we're always cussping, aren't we, around here? But we are on the cusp of something. There's still a little way to go, but we're on the cusp of something   moving in a in a bigger bigger way and it's all being held together. I like it. It's being held together in a kind of calm decent sort of way. If we can maintain that we can we can win through on this. The minute they get people kicking off and running around,   you know, all over the place, it's gonna get really really difficult because you're giving them all the causative reasons for them to get heavy handed or even more heavy handed than they already are. So,   I mean, I I remain   quietly encouraged and slightly more encouraged this week than I was last week. So it's all going in the right direction even though it's frustrating, though we're not yeah. Good. I understand. I'm learning. I mean, the fact of the matter is  

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people don't don't really understand that that,   a huge percentage of government   is psychopaths,   and the psychopath's   lifeblood   is to create   trauma,   fear,   genocide. They love it. It's their it's their lifeblood. The more stressed   people are, the happier they are.   Their brain   works and is programmed completely different to human beings, and   we need government,   as I've often said, like an elephant needs a hang glider.   We could do quite well without government, but the trouble is is that people have been conditioned to rely on government.   And once people become self reliant and say, well, sort of, we can do this ourselves, I think we'll have a lot happier society.  

And the dregs of society,   well, they'll just drift away because people won't wanna know them. You know, if someone wants to sit on their backside all day doing nothing, well, it's entirely up to them. They're not gonna get very wear anywhere, and they're not gonna get fit very well. So Mhmm. That and I mean, I think that  

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yes. How How many generations   do you think it will take   to retrain people to be self reliant?  

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I think it could happen as quicker than you think.   I I think it could happen much quicker than my negative part of my head says. I do. I've got a sometimes I like to take the Optimus tablets. They they really make you feel good and there's no it's not a harmful thing to do, you know.   It's to do with getting hold of more hold of the   means of communication.   Like I mentioned here before, it's not that we're short of   basic lumps of knowledge. We're not pretending to be geniuses or anything. We actually don't necessarily need geniuses. We've got,   we've got loads of them stuck in the in the archive. We need to dust that off. It's all sat there, right? It's more one of, kind of, willpower and organization and attitude.  

And I think that gets strengthened as more people bolt on to this attitude which is we really don't need you to the degree that you think we do. I, we don't need you at all is the truth of it. We don't really need them. We've solved all the problems. We're not allowed to benefit from the solutions. That's not literally true, but generally it's more true than what we've got at the moment, Which is just a whole series of false dramas, you know, bogus news stories.   I mean, you know, I   I   I do find, I don't know whether you guys find it, but I find that if I pay too much attention to all of the fear porn coming through it is mentally overwhelming. There's too much of it now.   Somebody needs to stop it. We need to set up a government department. No, I don't mean that at all. Right? Because someone oh, we'll stop it for you. We'll protect you from all that. No, you won't. I'll present myself thank you very much but I just know there's tons of it. It's like a massive super echo chamber and unfortunately,   I think an aspect of it is, in spite of the fact that people are voicing   opposition as it were to what's going on, indirectly   they are,   they're promoting it. Promote's not exactly the right word. I agree. What they're doing is they're creating awareness of all these problems whereas in fact what we need is awareness of all the solutions.  

The problem we meet is that we're not allowed to enact. You can't act on those solutions. Why? Oh, you ain't got a permit.   This is he's mad.   This is the madness and and we're that's what I think part of the frustration is. You know, he mentioned climate change there, didn't he? I've got tons of clips lined up, so I better get through a few. I've got one here. Right? This is from,   the second series of Yes Minister when they had a whole load of other, actors in, you know, Sir Humphrey and all this that and the other. Listen to this, it's a couple of minutes long too but it's pretty cool. I suggest  

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you don't worry too much about global warming. Right. Well, I can't do much about it tonight, can I? Most of the global warming computer models be any more reliable or accurate than the financial ones. Wall Street's computer models were designed to show that subprime mortgage derivatives were low risk, and these global warming computer models are designed to show the global warming's getting worse. Oh, come off it, Humphrey. You remember mad cow disease?   The computer models for that proved that we'd all be dying in our hundreds of thousands by now, but in fact, hardly any die. You're suggesting what exactly? Well, the computer models leave out nearly all other possible causes except c o two. And then they say, oh, look. C o two has caused all this global warming. There aren't any other causes either. Haven't you seen that film of melting icebergs in the Antarctic? Yes. They're beautiful, aren't they?  

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That's caused by c o two. No, dear lady. That's caused by warm water masses from the Pacific. Why are the polar bears becoming extinct? Are they? The computer models say they are. Well, the people actually go and count them a fund more than they were 30 ago. Oh, for heaven's sake. Humphrey. If it's all such nonsense, why does everyone believe it? No. It is. It's very hard to understand. There  

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are some scientists who do believe it. Lots of others want the billions of pounds you can get for research that seems to show that global warming is caused by greenhouse gases. Most of the scientists who disagree can't get published. Journalists love shock horror stories. Governments want to look virtuous to the voters. Leftists want to bash big oil, and it makes all the tree huggers and whale savers and everybody at the BBC and all of the media feel holier than thou and warm and fuzzy inside.  

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So wind farms don't make any sense?  

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The  

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wind farms, forgive me, prime minister. They do make sense. To the businessmen who are getting enormous government grants for them, there isn't enough wind to be practical. The total output of all of The UK's wind turbines put together is less than a quarter of one decent sized coal fired power station. He can't say any of this to the BBC. No, Claire. Phone them back and say  

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something.  

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Anybody disagree with any of that? That is absolutely spot on.   It's crammed with stuff. I mean, there's so many facts in there and this is the way to get these things across   or it's certainly a very effective way. So whoever this the BBC I don't know when this went out. I I guess twenty years or so ago, the BBC would not put a program out like this anymore. This is a BBC production. No way.   Yeah. It was. This is when there was some last remnants of integrity in the brains of the people that were in there. But those people have all been removed, a bit like all the good old coppers have been removed, a bit like how everybody that was   effectively batting for this team has been removed so that they've all been replaced by   traitors.  

I think that's not too strong a word if you look it up in the dictionary.  

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The US hasn't had news that's been worth a damn since they invented the news   magazine.   The first program was called A Current Affair, and that was the first program where they took liberties with the truth.   And then when Obama,   rerouted   the,   Graham Stegall Act or something like that,   they basically   took away any responsibility or obligation   from mainstream news to tell the truth.   They were declared   entertainment   mediums.   So  

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Well,   how comes during the Vietnam War, the camera crews are right at the front line, literally. And I remember Yes.   Seeing someone shot right in front of the camera   and and and bullets just almost bouncing off the side. They were right at the front. Well, nowadays,   it looks like a a wet weekend in sort of Brighton, you know, it's just sort of, oh yes, they're going to the front there, they're miles back from the front   and this first started with the Falklands War where the the the camera crew were not allowed to go on to the front   and they were just chaffroned around by by military personnel   and the first people,   you know,   it's it's just bonkers, it really is. So we're going backwards   and the strange thing is is that,   years ago you weren't allowed to show guts and gore at the cinema,   but they could show guts and gore on the news. They now switch that around.  

So you can see guts and gore at the cinema, but you can't see guts and gore on the new on the news. If they kept it the old way, I think you would have less wars.  

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I'm sorry. It wasn't Graham's. You may be right.   Smith Mundt.   Smith Mundt Modernization   Act in twenty eleven and twenty twelve.   That was when   they decided   HR 5736,   one hundred and twelfth Congress, that telling the truth in the news was no longer necessary.  

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But Well, apparently,   everybody's going down in this country with the, some nasty virus, aren't they, again? And they're saying we should wear our, nappies over our faces again. Are they doing that in America? Or is it organized? This is the latest organized one. Is that right? I think it is. Yes. Called.   I don't know. But it's usual. It's fear porn and crap, you know. I mean, it's,  

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I know. My my phone keeps buzzing all the time with my local   GP saying,   it's time for your winter flu vaccine.  

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I've got a letter through the post today. Really? It went straight it bounced straight straight off the table straight into the bin. Amazing. It was the speed it went in. Just looked at it, flew,   just teared it off straight straight into the bin. The last time someone jabbed my arm with toxins, I was about 11 years old, and I didn't have any say on the matter. But I haven't had anything squirted into my system since then. And I don't want anything squirted into my system because I do not believe in jabs, full stop, end off. You know?   I might be totally wrong, but I have not seen any evidence   to prove that jabs work   in anything.  



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No.   No.   Apart from making money Well, there's I mean, there's  

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Yeah. Sorry. Please. Apart from making money for the pharmaceutical industry, that's about the only thing they have they do work  

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for. Mhmm. And,  

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when you look at well, look at thalidomide.   Now that necessarily wasn't a dry a jab.   But did you know thalidomide, where all those children were born deformed,   was still going for three years   after the first deformed child was born? They didn't stop it for three years.   Hirendous.   Mhmm. You know? Because I actually saw a thalidomide child once. Well, he wasn't a child. He's an adult.   Playing the trumpet, busking   in Oxford Street when I worked in London.   It was a very moving sight. It really was.   So what's that for soul doing busking?   What what they apparently, their parents did not receive a penny in compensation.  

Not a penny.   Please,   in the chat, tell me if I'm wrong. But as far as I know, as far as I know, they didn't get compensation.   If I'm wrong, please tell   me. So,  

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you know And what are they gonna get? A box of toffees?  

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Well, precisely.  

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Certain things that money doesn't can't really pay for, isn't it, really? Life. Right. I mean, the main thing, of course, is that prevention is better than cure.   Cure, of course, drags everything into the courts. I mean, they're only now talking about all these crimes that were committed against people by lying politicians and the medical advisers. Ho ho ho, you know.   And we're here we are in 2025.   This happened five years ago. This is this thing about time. They've got the control over the time. Oh, no. We'll just get ready to that. They say that the the wheels of the law grind very slowly, and this is true,   so slowly that you don't even know that they're grinding. And when they do, everybody's the crispness of the memory   has been diminished, hasn't it? It's not as emotionally in the forefront of your heart and your mind when they get around to these things. Everybody gets worn out by it. It's the control of the communication processes   that's a major problem. There's nothing   there's nothing rapid or it doesn't have to be that fast but it's got to be timely.  

There's a time frame. I bet they know what it is psychologically. Oh, if you leave it for three years, everybody ninety five percent of people forget about it.   It'll be something like that. They'll have a book on that. They go, just don't do anything. Just keep stalling for about three years. Everybody gets so bored. They won't be able to keep it up. And it's true because, you know, so many other new dramas will have been introduced into our head,   courtesy of the fictional news making machine and all that kind of stuff. It's,   it's these, you know, I know they're not particularly exciting things to talk about, what the psychological manipulation process is, but they're pretty much on a micro level what's happening all the time. I I've often felt if we could find some way of unpicking that so that it could never get purchased on us, we'd have a lot more elbow room to move and get around. But in the interim,   organizing the production of,   engines that run on air or whatever, they're not the only solutions. There's many out there. But it's as if you're not allowed to participate   directly in the management of your life. It's always got to go to a so called expert. Everything has got to go to an expert,   who   who just appear to be experts in keeping you away   from growing up. I mean to some degree this is a contributory factor to why we have a kind of infantilized,   culture compared to what it used to be like. I mean, you know, people would just solve things,   You know, the whole health and safety thing was part of that, wasn't it? Oh, you can't do anything. No. You've got to check it off. You need a sheet of paper   and it's part of this conditioning stuff. So the idea of robust   chirpy Englishmen   like Fred Dibner just climbing up a bloody chimney stack with no safety gear, not that I would advise such a thing. I think you have to be a formidable individual to do that anyway. He was rare. He would people like that have always been relatively rare, but they used to be allowed to just get on with it. Now they're not. So, you know, they can't even show an example to others and there are people that have these aptitudes for such things as height and and and danger levels that normal people, I. E. Me for a start, couldn't cope with. I I'm bound to slip off and kill myself because I'd be thinking about it all the time. Whereas it he was just sort of, you know, in his in his elephant doing it. But I suffer from a disease up high. It's called cowardice.  



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Mhmm.  

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Yeah. Well, it gets me to  

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have you ever seen videos of them working on the on the skyscrapers in New York City in the twenties, thirties? It might be still still. 30   or 40   stories above ground. They're just walking around on an I beam that's six inches wide, and they're not even thinking about it. How's that work? I know. It's not just actually.  

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There was that there was that red Indian tribe as well. I mean, I know we were talking I talked briefly last week about scalp dance with Tom Goodrich.   Just mention it again. If you haven't read it, read it. It. You can probably get a free copy somewhere on what a book. It's amazing. It should be turned into a film. Actually, I spoke briefly or exchanged a few messages today with Dave Gehry, the publisher who knew Tom very well, and we were just, you know, basically sharing how much we miss him. Because I wanted to call him up last week when I was reading the book and I realized I couldn't. I haven't got a telephone line to wherever he is at the moment. They haven't set that up.   But,   you know, he was mentioning that that thing he's thinking of doing some sort of short video things about scalp dance, which I think would be really pretty cool. He's trying to get on top of AI stuff, which I think maybe I ought to jump into, but I've got to tell it. At the moment my mind's not up to it.  

But anybody out there that's developing AI visuals and stuff,   let us know, will you? Give us a send us a bell on email studio@paulenglishlive.com   about anything actually.   But that would be interesting to know because there's so much stuff that we could tell and would probably have   so much more impact in that particular format, you know. We like to yak. I prefer radio for all sorts of reasons,   because it's in a way it's easy to do and I don't have to get shaved or put my cravatte on every day or, you know, or the Brylcreem.   That's right. Although this, you know.  



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I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not  

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gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that   I'm  

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not   gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that I'm not gonna make sure that   cloths on the back of their seats because all the crap from the Bilcrea used to go on the back of people's seats. So these anti macassars because before Bilcrea, they had, macassar oil that used to put on their barnet Yeah. Hair.   Yeah.  

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So Yeah.   But that thing, Paul, that you were saying about those guys, I'm just tapping back into Scout Down's Red Indians. There was an Indian tribe. I don't know their name.  

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I bet you Wonder if it was.  

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No. I told the person the other day.  

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After I looked at it. They had they had this thing called the eye, didn't they? And they just went up there. They were just they had no   they never had an accident. I don't I don't know how many accidents there were. I'm assuming a few.   And probably fatal from that height. But you don't know. I just don't know at the moment. But these guys they had a thing called and they would just walk around,   barefoot on these girls. Mohawks. Just doing everything. The Mohawks. Yeah. Were they? And then they would wake up one morning and they said sometimes they would wake up one morning and they'd know that they'd lost, I think they called it the eye, I've lost it and they would never go up whenever again.   They just knew that internally their system,   whatever it was, this height compass, this internal balance system that they had had gone, so they never went up again. But there were stories of the Chrysler Building which is   that's Art Deco, right? Chrysler Building in New York, Eric? Is it another one I'm talking about? Yes, yes it's Art Deco. My favorite skyscraper ever because they've just gone over the top of the top of it. It's fabulous.  

You if you're gonna build those things, you've got to do something like that to please me because I'm I agree with I agree with you. That is beautiful. Well, you've got the secretaries.   Yeah. On lunchtime in New York, when they were building the Empire State, secretaries used to go up there to whatever floor the restaurant was on with binoculars   to watch these red Indians hopping around up there. It was like best show in town,   get lunch during the week watching them put this thing up. It must have been quite a sight, it must have. I don't think I could have watched because I only have to see those photographs   and I get that tight bum syndrome. I don't know about you, and I just go, woah. I could I don't wanna look. I just can't stand it.  



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I absolutely can't stand it. I can't stand heights, but   when I   was,   on-site,   we because it the the the building, we we was designing it as it as it was going up almost. You know? And,   we had a meeting, slight meeting,   on I can't remember how many floors up it was, but we actually looked down   on the,   monument, you know, the Monument building that that big sort of yeah. We looked down on that, so it must have been pretty high. And they had this thing called wriggly tin, which was like a a a something they put down on the floor or the deck, and then they pour concrete on top of it, and that would be the deck or the floor.   You know, that's how you build all the floors up in on this steel frame building. Well, we were standing on this,   Wrigley Tin, and there   was beautiful views all around, but I wasn't too happy because it was a bit high. And suddenly, a gust of wind came, and it lift this ridiculously   tin up by about six inches and down again.  

And I went all the shades of the rainbow, and   and we all sort of went silent. And one of the chaps said, I think we better resume this meeting down in the office.   And  

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let's play it this way. Wrigley  

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Tin.  

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Wrigley tin. Yeah. It's called Wrigley tin. I know. Corrugated.  

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Corrugated. Well, you know, it wasn't corrugated. No. It's but they called the the the actual official name was called Wrigley tin. It's the same Wrigley tin. It's the same,   same idea as corrugated,   but they just put this down and poured concrete on top of it, and the concrete will go off, and they'd actually leave it there, this in situ. And, that's what they did between in still frame buildings. You know? But,   yes. Yeah. And it was, as I say, should we say it was across   a bowel moving movement.  

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Yes.   Oh, and I must redeem myself. We're at the top of the hour, but I must redeem myself. The Glass Steagall   legislation   was the Banking Act of 1933.  

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What we normally talk about on Paul English Live. Oh, no. There's time left yet to get a bit of banking banter in. We'll see. Anyway, we are coming to the end of the first hour here on WBN. We're gonna,   resume after this short break. Everybody likes chips here, don't they? You like chips?  

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Like Elvis? Do you mean   fries? Fries?  

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No. I mean chips because this is a British thing. And we all quite like Elvis. Well, parts of Elvis, don't we? So here's a song about chips and Elvis. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? A couple of other things. We'll be back after this short break.   Have fun for the next few minutes. This is a jolly good song by Kirsty McColl.   Jeff. Hi. Fantastic. We're just playing a song at the moment. Jeff, if you stay on the line, I'll bring you in for hour two, if that's okay.   Cool. Brilliant. You'll hear the song in a second. You should hear it coming over. Here we go.  

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Who   listens   to radio   that go where you go medium   called radio   that's with you every   night through the long commuter fight and in the morning with your toasted mama lady o who   listens   to radio   no matter if it's someone wins a string of fun.   Who listens   to   radio?   Only one a 150,000,000.   150,000,000   people.  

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Well, they say fake it until you make it. So to all you 150,000,000   listeners out there, how about that? That was a I don't know when that was that jingle from? Fifties, sixties, seventies, sixties, I think. I'm gonna go for the sixties. Anyway, welcome back to part two.   We have a guest. I think we have a guest.   Jeff, are you there?  

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Yes. I am.  

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Hi. Welcome to the show, Geoff. We've got in the studio. We've got Eric von Essex who will be earwigging in and knocking you off your stride every now and again.   And,   we've also got Paul over in The States, and it's good to have you on the show. So just to give you a bit of background, Geoff's somebody I met through Dave Gehary.   He's involved in a few,   publishing ventures over here.   He knows some pretty interesting people.   He's got a pretty   interesting history in what would we call it? Well, I'll leave I'll leave that for you to introduce yourself, Geoff, and let everybody because you're a complete   new entity to the listeners here. They don't know who you are. And I don't know a great deal about you, but I've enjoyed our two or three phone calls that we've had so far.  



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Yes.   I guess that,   I I first became a bit radicalized in about,   when I was 17.   I've been learning that school about the wonders of democracy. We've gone up to the House of Commons.  

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Oh, nice. And,  

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we have been told about the the wonderful   debating system that   United Kingdom has got.   And,   well, we're just gonna have a big debate at school. Everybody was looking forward to it. And then at the very last moment, one of the political parties   wasn't allowed to attend because the the headmaster   was a person called Ruben Gill.   He was a Austrian Jewish refugee.   Didn't think they was appropriate. Didn't didn't sort of allow them to sort of take part in this debate.   Mhmm. And I expected the the headmaster,   a person called Skinner   Sewell,   override,   you know, override him and sort of say we're in democracy.  

You know, we have all sort of points of view whether you like them or not.   But he didn't. He just upheld his deputy   headmaster's   decision,   which obviously means that the deputy headmaster's   got more say than the headmaster.   And, I was really disgusted about this, really. I I thought about it for a very long time.   And then the situation was   I got in contact with this party, and, I found that I actually agree with them.   So I was expecting them to be totally defeated in the   in the debate, but they came out with good arguments.   So that's when I was first radicalized.  

And and then I I started to think outside the box from that power period.   So I've been doing that, since I was 17.   So I've I've found that   this society   becoming very,   very awkward and difficult.   It's like I was looking into it rather than being part of it.  

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I think that's an ex.   No. I think that's an experience that's shared by a great many people. By the way, Jeff, I know I asked you for a sort of surname, and I can't remember what it is.   So what do we call you here on the show if I write some notes afterwards?  

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Jeff Jeff Roberts is my name. Jeff Roberts.  

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I just knew you as Jeff, didn't I? So we we hooked up recently, as I was just mentioning there, courtesy of,   an introduction made by that reprobate over in Florida, Dave Gehary,   who kindly put us together. Yeah. He's a troublemaker all along. I I was mentioning earlier in the show, I've shared a shared a few little texts with Dave today. We were talking about,   Tom Goodrich. I don't know if you're familiar with Tom Goodrich's work, but he was a an author David published. But,   he's connected up with you and,   obviously, you understand the sort of communications embargo that we're kind of under over here.  

But as best you can,   what's your sort of prime focus in   in in sort of publishing? I'm just gonna say publishing, but there might be a lot more to it than just that. But but what's your sort of   current day to day activities that you're involved with?  

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Well, the situation like, today,   I was talking to my   managing dir   managing director,   about,   we're doing an Arabic translation   of a book.   And,   it's just so happens that,   it seems like Arabic is one of the most, awkward languages in the world to learn.   They when they sort things out, they sort things out   by names like we do in the, English speaking world, but they they do it with the   first name.  

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Right. So  

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that means that the the book, which is being translated into English and Arabic,   needs a lot more work.   The other thing is the AI   generator   just translates anything.   Mhmm. You know, it doesn't stand   surnames or names you're not supposed to change,   but it does that. So there's quite considerable amount of work still to be done, but we're hoping that it come out in about   a month's time.   A bit more money and time that needs to be spent on it. It's it's just really quite fascinating learning about Arabic and how it's it's printed to either, you know,   the certain direction,   different from English and everything.  

And, of course, it's got completely   unusual alphabet.   Mhmm. So well, there's lots of sort of things like this. I know that's what I've been talking about today.  

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Right. And, with your with your managing director.   With your I like the way that  

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No. It's not.  

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Operations manager, I should say. My operations Operations manager. Well, that's great that you've got one of those. I've I've got to get one too. And is this is this the book that I'm aware of?   It is. Yeah. It is. So I think you can tell everybody what it is because,   we we can't keep them hanging around with bated breath. What's what's the book?   The primary book? What's the name yeah. The name of your company as well, you know, so they can find these things. Yeah.  

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Palm Reg.   Well, it's actually   short for academic   research,   media review   education   group.   So that that is what we are trying to achieve. We're trying to do high level sort of academics   of   research.   Yeah. We also review,   media sort of items.   And the idea is it's done in education. Now we we don't put out sort of stuff with unverified   facts. We don't sort of make a sort of tax on people for no reason. It's not propaganda.   And we are just trying to get to the truth of the thing. So, and the Holocaust of Circarpedia   is I think it's about six,   seven hundred pages now. It's on its full   update.  

Right. This is the one in English.   And,   you'd be pleased to know it's in American English, so, you know, it'd be easier for you for you to understand,   really. That's all for error.   And   the situation is that, you know, it's fully illustrated,   you can get a full,   color edition   out of it.   And, that's that's the book, The Holocaust Encyclopedia.   And you can get it from our website, which is www.arbreyke.co.uk.   So but that's the situation if you wanna buy the book. And there's all different types of   variants of the book.   The best one to get, and I don't think you would be,   disappointed with it, is to get the full color version.  



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Yes. And,  

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with with shipping and everything like that, it costs about 80 or 90 pounds.   So I don't, I'm trying to think how much that is in dollars or about $120   and all that. I don't know.  

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So   in terms of so the Holocaust Encyclopedia,   everybody took a sharp intake of breath.   But what's the background to that? Because I'm aware of one of the writers, but there are other writers, and you've got you've been involved in that. I mean the way that I've tended to approach this topic here under our current climate   is are we allowed to inquire into history? Are we allowed to ask questions about history? Because   obviously   the book that you're talking about   has got   if it doesn't ask a lot, it will pose a lot, I'm assuming. But who are the is it a collection of of of writings from   groups of writers or is it predominantly two or three? What's this what's the sort of situation with how it's put together? Two or three writers. Two or three,  

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writers on this sort of subject. They're very knowledgeable sort of people. Yes. You you probably know one of them, I think. Yeah. Germer.   Yeah. That's it. Germer Rudolf. And, professor Dalton is the other person who did substantial amounts. Oh, really? Thomas? That's Thomas Dalton. Yeah?  

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That's right. Yes. He's done a hasn't he done, translations   of Mein Kampf,  

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I think? He's done all sorts of books. A very, very accomplished writer. Yeah. You can see a lot of his books on the website.   Yeah. Yes. But he he done an enormous amount of work,   books. And and Garmar's done a lot more books as well. We also got   the the Italian writer on there who's quite well known.  

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What's his name? What's it what's his name again?  

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I can't remember. Metagno.  

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Metagno.   That's it. Yeah. Metagno.  

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Yeah. So,   yeah, so, you know, we've got quite a lot of books, but, you know, his his knowledge, I mean, Guillermo Russo's knowledge about the Holocaust is is absolutely   amazing. It's just enormous. You know, when he first   wrote most of the book,   I proofread it and, I couldn't put it down. You know, it was just I look forward to reading a letter every day. Mhmm. So   so I proofread the book and let you know, I think it was about a month, you know, because not all the entries are the same sort of size.   And there's some some letters are much bigger than others in text Right. And everything. Yeah. But it was, you know, it's a fascinating   subject. But the thing is,   it's   what what we gotta look at is the situation in history when this came about,   the holocaust came about. And,   it's let's first start with the term holocaust. That means   burnt offering in Greek.  

Yep. And, you know, so   they they would actually,   do something   and make a sacrifice. They used   to look at   sacrifice, bulls, and other animals, the gods,   and, then they would sell it a lot. And then they would eat all the meat and that and they look at the entrails,   and the the sages,   or the wise men, would predict   what was gonna happen. So that that's the sort of holocaust sort of thing to it. But the actual term holocaust wasn't really used until   the seventies when,   David Irving,   actually sort of looked at the term and found   it wasn't called that   until the seventies.  

Right. So it wasn't really called anything,   in fact.   No. So  

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No. I mean, Irving Irving's book, Hitler's when did that come out? It was about '76, the first edition of that, wasn't it? Was it mid seventies, mid to late seventies?  

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I think it's '77,   I think. Right. Actually, I think it is about September.   Yeah. That was a very impressive book. I I can still remember him being interviewed about   that. And, the person just wanted to speak speak about   the,   the, the intention   of, the German government at that time. And   he he they wanted to sort of say, well, in your book, you haven't found any evidence that there was any   order, a Fuhrer order from the from Adolf Hitler. And, of course, you know, what happened in Germany would have been,   ordered by Hitler at a very high level.  

Mhmm. And you would expect this to be in   the highest level of security,   highest level of secrecy,   but, nothing was ever found   by that. And he also extensively   interviewed Hitler's sort of staff,   and they they never knew anything of it.   Even, indeed, his secretaries never knew anything of it at all. So so nobody recalled any order being sort of given.   And then to this day, no no   no order's ever been found. So if you look at the book,   the Holocaust Circular Peter, it goes into this in great detail.   So we have to sort of look at the situation. What was happening in 1945?   Why why why was this   event taking place? Why was this   Holocaust   and apostrophes   taking place? And the reason is   is straightforward. It's just atrocity   propaganda.  

It's allied atrocity propaganda.   And the the best thing to say about that is that the the foreign policy   adviser of the British government, it was called Robert Van Zittat.   Yes. He was   of Dutch Dutch   origin,   you know, centuries back in his family tree.   And, he he was one of these people who   who,   you know, went to Eton, which is the top public school in England   and in Britain.   Probably the top public school in the world or expect I don't know about the state or the American public schools.   He went to Eton, and I he he did this and that. He rose up through the ranks. He came to foreign policy   adviser in British but he was very, very anti German, extremely anti German.  

And, he was accused by Harry Almer Barnes, I think you might have heard of him, of being a warmonger.   And,   I think that's Hitarch. So I actually sued the Harry Almer Barnes for for calling him that. Yeah. I'll never find what the result of the case was, but I presume because Van Sinta was a high ranking freemason   that he was able to sort of pull a few strings there. Just have a word   or have a word on the square as it were and   sort of arrange   arrange a,   good result.   You know, creating freemasonry.  

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Was it   was it Van Sitter or some there's a quote from David Irving,   talking about the propaganda   side of this,   where there's a note from someone in, I'm assuming,   British propaganda at the time.   And I I can't remember you might know. I I just can't remember the name of it. But the gist of the quote was   that it's   isn't it time that we stopped all this stuff? You know, we've had it was something like we've had a good run for our money with this.   I think it's time we wheeled it back in.  

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That's another person. That's called the,   the Duke of Portland,   whose name was actually   Cavendish Bentic   as his actual surname.   But he had very sort of given to him. And so that that, document   is meant to be found in the foreign office   files. He was in the foreign office.   Right. But,  

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it was We're picking up Jeff, just sorry, but we're we're picking up a bit of sort of popping and muffling and and stuff here.   How's your microphone going? Because it's a bit it just got a bit wonky.  

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Alright. Okay. I'll just just have a look a little. I'll just put it up a bit. Is that bit, man?  

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Yeah. It was just we were picking up a lot of sort of clips and, and muffles. That's it. It's a cleaner sound now. Yeah. It was just slightly getting in the way. That's better. Thank you.   Yeah. Sorry. I I yeah. Who who was that again? Duke of Portland, you mentioned. Yeah?  

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Yeah. It was Duke of Portland Poland,   Cavendish Bentink, his name, very old sort of family. That's it. That's the name.   Usual sort of thing. Another Etonian,   top schools,   top, university,   so that sort of stuff.   Very well, highly educated sort of individual, extremely anti German.   And he was the one who said that we've had a good run with our money with the   this propaganda, but shouldn't we give up on it? Because, they're gonna be exposed one day, and then all our propaganda would be shown to be false.  

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Something along those lines. Yeah. It was along those lines. I remember it. Yeah. It was along those lines. And  

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he he was, appointed   ambassador to Poland after the war   as well. And he was also a member of the   the Bilderberg group, you know, we started meeting after the war. Well, I know that. Like a Yeah. Elite, talking group. And he used used to write the minutes up for it. So he was definitely like one of the people you would say was an insider.   Yes. So so,   so he he did that, but as I said, he he was in the foreign office. Now the person I,   I was also talking about was   Robert Van Cittard.   And he he came out with statements saying that the Germans should be reeducated   after the war.  

And, this appears in his, with Wikipedia entry, and you can look it up to see what he actually sort of said.   And,   for a program of reeducation   for the German people, because he he wrote a book during the war, which you said that the Germans were responsible,   as a warmongering   nation for most of the wars,   which is obviously completely unfair.   Like this, I know, you know, America, you know, the British government Yeah. Use   German   auxiliary troops   Mhmm. In a couple of campaigns there.   But these these troops, you know, they had the the jagers, the or the chasseurs as the British used to call them,   light infantry. They were very good.  

They also had a grenade, which were quite good as well. But some of the units were weren't very good, and those little better than garrison units. And,   the the king of, England at the time, you know, George preferred,   was obviously the director of Hanover. So a lot of them were Hanonian  

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Hanovian sort of troops. But I was straying away from the subject a bit there. Not really. I think I mean, it I I know what you mean. I mean, in terms of the communications   climate in the world for this topic, I'm   pretty familiar with it.   I think some of the listeners will be familiar with it. It's definitely it's not a thing that we've talked about much on this show for all sorts of reasons. I don't want to sort of, but I'm I'm glad that you're here to to bring it up and particularly to point at this book. Is it   as a as a it was interesting you're talking about Germa having an encyclopedic knowledge because obviously it's an encyclopedia,   right, under all these letters.  

Do you think as a book Yeah. Do you think it's something that   somebody with,   just coming to the topic? And I don't know how many are   because even now, you know, the warnings beware and all this kind of stuff sub subliminally all over the place.   But do you think it's a book that somebody relatively new to this topic would   would get good value from? Is it a thing that's just gonna provide them is it like a dip you just dip in when you feel like it and pick up a thing and go I'll have a look at letter j today or whatever and see what's under that. Is that how it kind of reads as an encyclopedia would, I guess? Yeah. It's, it's alphabetical order, and it starts with absurd claims, you know. Yes. And it looks at the absurd claims which the allies might. You have to remember the you know, with the atrocity propaganda, what the normal situation is, that you you throw a lot of stuff  

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at people. You know? It's just a it's a spare job. So they they throw things at somebody,   and, they find out   something about you, which either gets gets a reaction   or something you can't really   explain a way or something like that, and then they just hammer on about it.   The the if you read the Hitler's War, the latest version that there is actually papers   there. And,   you know, the the the proper propaganda   response, you know, by the master propaganda,   with Joseph Goebbels was to say nothing.   That that was so you don't you don't entertain   anything like that. But but there is one time when they actually mentioned it, and I think it was the German ambassador in The United States, actually.  

And, they came out with these claims, and he said it was the trustee story   to benefit the Jewish stores of,   Manhattan.  

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So Really? Who said that again? Who said that?  

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That was, the German ambassador   for The United States. Wow.  

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Yeah.   I mean, I know that they've got labels for people   like us. I'm not including all you listeners out there. You might   some might   not countenance this sort of thing although I I doubt it really. It, you know, if we're if we're a questioning people.   Do you think, I mean are we allowed to be called Enquirers,   Holocaust Enquirers? What do you think would be a a more appropriate label? I'm I'm not particularly pleased with the one that they always come out with   because it it there's an assumption   in it   that sort of blocks off inquiry, you know. You you're in other words, the word deny   is that you're actually refusing   an established fact and yet the sheer volume of questions   around it   once you begin with this thing. I suppose they don't want people to begin with it because   one question begets five more and begets another and they keep multiplying out, you know, as you   go into it. Do you think that there's a a problem with the label or   or   and in sort of connected to that, what do you think is the best approach? Or do you think there are certain approaches that could be taken to  

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at least introduce people to the idea of of taking a look at it? What do you think? Well, I think a lot a lot of that depends on what the individual is like and how open they are for new ideas.   Yeah. That, you know, if you've been radicalized,   then you're probably open for new ideas. You know, if there's an economic slump on   and, your government's collapsing or crumbling away, then you'll probably be more keen to listen to something new or something new. Like now, you mean? Because Like the times that we live in right now.   Yeah? Well, yeah. You know? And the but the other thing is the the labeling   is there for a purpose.  

The the labeling is there to stop people   doing something.   You know? You know? So the it's common nowadays you turn on the TV on, you know, watching the Sky News with the   at the moment. And the amount of terms, you get far right or racist or Nazi or fascist.   And all these terms are being thrown around and that. And yet,   the there isn't any sort of far right racist, fascist, or Nazi sort of people in parliament whatsoever.   And, the only there's four reform party   people.   And yet, you know, it's   it's just them being mentioned all the time, you know. And it's it's done. That's done   because we're not looking in the other direction.  

And that that's the situation.   The the other thing I think it's done to label people in this way is to stop any debate.   So, you know, if you have a crowd of demonstrators,   and they choose to shout out one single word   at you and then, like, changing it every now and again.   It's it's very hard to debate with something for that because you're already being categorized.   You're already categorized   as sewing bag.   And not that That's very much like 1994.   So, the sixth device in where   the, you know, the propaganda comes out and everybody's shouting for the war criminals to be hung. You know? So which is another sort of way of sort of branding people. And I hear the term Nazi war criminal quite a lot,   you know, in the in the various sort of thing. And the the amount of propaganda   is enormous. So I was I was reading a story,   the amount of money that the United States Holocaust regime   gets. So it's incredible   amount.  

Not only do they get a lot of, private donations,   they also get government money as well. And I I think, your your listeners in America would be rather shocked how many how much money they actually get.   Mhmm. I think the other thing and how many of the Holocaust museums there are in The United States   even though, you know, as far as as far as I know, you know, there wasn't any holocaust in The United States. I don't think anybody's claimed that so far. Yeah. But it is. It's still absolutely unknown. But that's that's the thing. You know, in in 1994,   it's just a way   of stopping any debate.  

And that this is what they fear is genuine reason and baked through them. What they would like is, people just to shout abuse.   And that that's what we don't do at the   at Armoury. We're looking for   scholarly,   intelligent, intellectual debate.  

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Well, I think I'm on for that as well. We were talking about that a little bit earlier. I've had a discussion along those lines with somebody else earlier today outside of this show   about really being calm.   It's our best ally as best we possibly can. I know it's difficult at times particularly with some of the stuff that's thrown back at people who are just genuinely inquiring.   You know, it's this thing about the truth being no respecter of anybody   and it's whether people are up for it or not. There was a there was a quote I had the other week from Mencken, the the American journalist, along those lines that it's pretty odd that most people don't like the truth, you know, they don't like it.   And,   I can understand why.  

Because it disturbs the status quo that people have assumed is the truth. And,   so it's about it sort of developing an attitude   approach with it. But I mean, you know, the book that you're talking about, I am gonna have to get a copy.   I don't know whether that what does that mark me down as? A maniac or something? What what would they call you for even just getting a copy of that? You begin to understand all these things in the past about controlling publishing   more fully. Not that I didn't understand it, but you one does. You see how   this limitation of inquiry and you can't look at that book.  

And it's I think history tends to show that the books that everybody's being told not to read are absolutely the ones to be read. That those are the ones that Yeah. That that's absolutely  

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right. Yeah.   What I was, you know, I was saying earlier is like   in The United States and parts of, Western Europe, there's still a considerable amount of   freedom, but it it is being taken down quite a lot, really. And I I think one thing,   in   America, you know, the recent sort of,   remarks by, I think it was the US state office about the civilization   in Western Europe being erased. You know? That that was certainly   a remark that went down very badly with Western European leaders, especially the ones in sort of Britain and France   and other sort of countries which have very open borders sort of policy. Yeah. As,   you know, as it was really fiercely dis   denounced by the liberal leader in   in parliament, the editor, Ed Daly.  

So but that that's the situation is but what is worrying is that the amount of limitations of free speech which are taking place.   For example, we got a possibility of having digital ID cards in this country.   Mhmm. The   government are introducing that law.   They're now gonna abolish jury trials as well. Some elections are being postponed.   You know, it's a very sort of sad situation.   You know?  

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I mean, I it's gonna be interesting to see whether they can implement these things. I played a clip in the first hour,   just before you came on from Rupert Lowe, who I am partial to at the moment.   You know. Yeah. Because he's do he's doing what I consider to be as good a job of being able to communicate about this stuff without making it a party political issue, which it isn't, you see. Because   one of the observations made here, not just here but everywhere,   rightly, is that it does not matter which party gets in, the government always stays in control and it's not the actual political parties. This is I think this is beginning to dawn on more and more people. This is a systems wide problem. The whole of the sort of system of governance, including all these other agencies around it, you know, like 35 permanent secretaries and the Office of Budgetary Restraint   and the Private Own and Controllership,   as it were, of the Bank of England etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, which is sort of   a regular return to theme around these parties. Yes. People are beginning to see that. They're beginning to get it. And it and there isn't a political solution through a party at the moment  

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that hasn't ever been really for a long time. Situation   The situation in Britain and America   had,   it's been that there there has been two   political parties which rub up against each other. Yeah. And they actually perpetuate   a system which just keeps   mediocre sort of government government in   place. But it's it seems to me, what they keep saying is that,   people lost complete   confidence in the Conservative Party,   which,   adds,   and now they've voted for Labour,   the Labour Party   in large numbers.   They got in, but they've now lost complete interest in them as well.   So it'd be interesting to see what happens in the next election.  

So it may be that all these ID card stuff, which is was done by the labor government without any mandate,   never mentioned in their   political program.   It's gonna cost about 1,800,000,000.0.   And you can rest assured that after a while, that's the the the cost would probably   creep up like anything.   Yes. And then it probably   be mandatory   mandatory to carry.   You know? Because the car, the police gonna wait around until you go back home and sort of produce that.   So it it's really strange. It it is. People are liking it   to 1984,   but the people who do that are are not actually on file. A lot of people are not actually on file with 1984.  

The book was actually gonna be called called 1948.   It was written in that year. Mhmm. And he was placed to change it to 1984.   So the book was about the present.   It's about the present. It's not about the future. Yes. And we got a situation   where everything can be rewritten,   changed,   altered,   and everything. And a good example of that would be like the bloody Sunday inquiry   where,   there's civilians killed by the parachute regiment in Northern Ireland. And then there was an inquiry. It found them all completely innocent.   A little while later, they they had another inquiry under Tony Blair, and it found them all guilty. You know? So this is this is I remember that. Yeah. Like, retroactive justice,   depending on what was politically expedient at the time. Yeah? Yeah. But it seemed the thing the thing is like, Eric Blair,   which was George Orwell's,   real name.  

He he was quite an amazing individual, really, because   he he got a scholarship   to Eton.   So he was educated to a very high standard, but he was only from a working class sort of background.   And he went to Eton and, he had this period in the Spanish Civil War where he got,   shot in the neck.   And he was recovering it in,   Barcelona, I think, when there's the the the communists,   the Stalinists   tried to,   tried to suppress   the Trotskyites.   Yep. And, after, he he came came home. And then he somehow he managed to get into the Ministry of Information.   Now the Ministry of Information was run by somebody called,   Brendan Bracken.  



[01:37:43] Unknown:

Oh, I know.   Yeah. What were we talking about him the other day? I did a little bit of research on Brendan Bracken. I'll tell you what, Geoff. Just hold on to that thought because I wanna put Eric on the mic and just bring Eric in. Eric, have you is there anything that you wanna   any comments you've got up to press? I just thought I'd bring you in. Yes. I mean, it's very interesting that, the book 1984,  

[01:38:06] Unknown:

people think that, George Orwell,   turned the   numbers around because he wrote it in around about 1948 or published it then. But it was actually the hundredth anniversary   of the starting of the Fabian Society because the Fabian Society was starting in 1884.   And,   I just wondered if our guest would like to sort of say anything about that because we are actually ruled by the Fabian Society now.  

[01:38:32] Unknown:

There's no ifs and buts about it. Well, that's quite interesting. There's been quite a lot of Facebook   posts and other posts I've sent by people talking about the Fabian society.   And the Fabian society was named after   a Roman general who actually defeated Hannibal   by refusing to   engage in combat.   So, what he would do was just attack the supply lines or do ambushes and everything like that. Because, when the Romans did it beforehand,   they lost, I think it was supposed to be over 80,000 men in this   incredible battle at Cannae   by Hannibal.  

Yeah. And it was by   I think his second name was Quintatus. I think Fabius Quintatus.   But anyway, when the Fabian Society was set up,   it was it set up the original,   badge was a wolf in sheep clothing   because it wanted to introduce   socialism to people   by social proliferation.   So it didn't it doesn't go out and sort of advertise the facts or it does it's not a political party. It's a political grouping   within the Labour Party.   And it changed its badge from this wolf in the sheep's clothing to a more,   what's the word? Sort of, more sort   of image which is not so enlightening because a wolf in the sheep's clothing is obvious what most people would realize. It's so subversive.  

But,   yeah. So, you know, one of the sort of biggest members of the Fabian Society is, obviously, Tony Tony Blair.  

[01:40:12] Unknown:

Really?   Sheckable.   Wow.   Well, he is. They're all in London. I think Brown was Peter Mandelson,   the current,   minister of energy. What is he? That goofball? I can't remember his name. He's one of two brothers. Mille Band. Yeah. Mille Band. Mille Band. The Mille Band Brothers,   they're involved with it. And I I actually I had a video flash up today. I'm looking at this. I'm not gonna play it as a clip or anything. It's too long. It's but the title of it, this is on YouTube, Exposed. This is who really runs our country. It's not Keir Starmer. Brackets, the Fabian Society.   And,   it's true. And I mentioned here, this is me where I do my Liz Truss fan club thing. But Liz Truss is talking about this. She's one of the highest politicians that's begun to talk about the system   as a whole.  

And and basically, you know, if you listen to her comments, what she's basically pointing to, we we do it in a kind of more explicit way here. I understand where she's at and what she's got to say.   But she's pointing the finger and saying the system   is running counter   to the idea of democracy. There is no democracy. Forget it, you know. And she's basically saying as much. And it's courageous of her to do it. I don't know quite how this whole thing works. I guess they can't just sort of plow into people all over the place, but there are more and more people   of more and more prominence springing up beginning to touch upon and say this stuff. I would I mentioned here, Geoff, a few weeks ago I was out on the street   having a chat,   excuse me, with some people from reform.  

Not that I'm a reform person.   I just went over to talk to them.   And the lady there   was, excuse my frog in my throat, the lady there said   she'd just heard about the Fabian Society and I thought this was a really good sign. People are beginning to inquire into this. I'll go and drink some water.  

[01:42:06] Unknown:

Yes,   But but it's surprising how communism has actually taken us over, and it's all been done very, very slowly.   And,   you know,   I mean, how do you feel about this? I mean, I I think it started.   I think Mary White house   noticed it for possibly first of all when it was starting in the nineteen sixties. But I think it goes further back than then,   because they reckon that the one they are looking for trade in the thirties.  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

That goes right back to the the great march through the institutions.   And,   and Lenin if you look at Lenin's writings,   you know, he says the first thing to do to for   their   development for communist in the sixteen years, destroy any sort of any sense of patriotism amongst the population,   destroy all its sort of institutions,   destroy the family,   drug up young men, make them sort of that do, you know, just generally mock up society and making sort of a rubbish type of society,   which is like really strange because that's what communists do when they're out of power.   When they're in power, they do vote virtually or completely opposite.  

You know, it's like, when communism was getting a real a sort of butt kicking and knocking for what he want from the Germans. So that they started reintroducing   all the the Soviet side, reintroducing   all the Zong or Franks,   changing the army completely,   getting rid of all the political sort of,   leaders which were attached to each unit.   They started changing everything. So, you know, this is just stuff they put out for consumption for,   you know, their victim.  

[01:43:49] Unknown:

Well, my my grand that's   right. But my my granddad, I mean,   he was born in 1888,   and   I remember him saying to me,   and I was very young at the time. He used to say, watch out for the infiltrators.   And I didn't know what he was on about. I now fully understand what he was on about because he saw the Labour Party, which was completely different in nineteen o seven to when it was actually infiltrated, and he watched it being infiltrated in the nineteen twenties and thirties.   And it became a completely different party. It I don't think and when it started, I don't think there's really much to do with socialism. I think it's very different.  

[01:44:28] Unknown:

But It was chirping the downtrodden poor, which is good. Nearly all of these things are like that. All of these things they start off with a good intention.   And because it's a good intention and it attracts a lot of energy   from people that are on the rough end of the stick, I. E. Us lot, us happy peasants,   as soon as it's built up to a certain size,   they say, oh, we've always believed in this and they wheedle their way in and it's just another version of the long march through the institutions they go in. And that really is,   you know, going back to Fabianism,   it's a it's a consistent tactic all the time to pretend you're be to be your friend up to the point where they've got a little bit of power and then you find your organizations going all over the shop and it's not quite what you wanted it to be. And it loses connection with the people and then sort of psychological manipulation techniques kick in, I. E. A lot of lying courtesy of the press, which their pals happen to own, just by chance.  



[01:45:26] Unknown:

Yeah. I I think a lot of this is, the the the thing is that   there's huge efforts by the by the the communist and the socialist and that to square the circle without the so it's an impossible task.   And to do that, they have to start resorting to lying.   And this is what happens. You know, the way they look at that society and the way they they operate,   it always sort of turns out to be,   pretty   wrong, you know, what the things they do are wrong, and then they have to sort of cover that. So, you know, they get to customs sort of line as   a relative   sort of other thing. And what the thing is about sort of Bill Dorwell   and in the in his book well, firstly, he wrote Animal Farm. I think most people would be quite familiar with that. And, and then he he came out with, September.  

He worked in the Ministry of Information,   and he was so disgusted with the pro Soviet sort of stuff because his group of socialists have been,   brutally repressed by the phalanx and that was.   And he he he worked for a person called Brendan Bracken, who was appointed by church with the Ministry of Information.   So   he was called BB,   you know, in his department, which, Orwell used as big brother.   So and that's,   let though, when you sort of read about Brendan Bracken,   you know, he he was an Irish Catholic, but he pretended to be an Australian.   You know, he pretended that he had   relatives killed at Narvik and and the Norway campaign, which he hadn't. And he's a complete fanatic, you know,   a a a liar and everything.  

What happened was that Joe Joe Joe,   actually appointed the Lord of the Admiralty.   Now the seat one of the civil ones, apparently.   Even though he's on that his own ship experience was probably the ferry from Dublin to Liverpool.   That was about it, really. So it just shows   you what sort of people are pointing to high levels of the government. But what is mostly interesting about him is, I was reading the Sunday Times for today, and there's a whole article about him.   How   after he was in the apathy, he resigned from public office and he sort of disappeared.   And he then he turns up in this school   in an island off the Isle Of Skye in Scotland.  

And he's going around in shorts   pretending to be a schoolboy.   And   and, he's been beaten. You know, he used to love being beaten for infractions   in this   school,   for swearing and smoking.  

[01:48:14] Unknown:

You know? And so How old was he at the time, Jeff? How old was he at the time, roughly?   He was in his forties, fifties, I think. Pretending to be a schoolboy?  

[01:48:25] Unknown:

Yeah. And he certainly had a premature aging condition.  

[01:48:29] Unknown:

Well, eventually, he was exposed.   It's,   what's up? It just  

[01:48:35] Unknown:

just comes down to fruits and nutcases every time, doesn't it?  

[01:48:40] Unknown:

They're in there. It does. Yeah. Lot of Churchill's sort of, people that he,   pointed were very sort of strange sort of people.   There's,   Brandon Bracken, you know, he was completely   single. I suspect he, he probably was a homosexual.   And the homosexual was illegal in Britain right up to 1967,   I think,   which was just after Churchill died in 1965,   I think it was.   So but yeah. It's a a very weird sort of a group of people who had re had round and there's,   so Brandon Brackett was really weird, you know, very sort of strange sort of thing. He had all his documents burned after his death and everything.   So yeah. But I'll I'll I'll  

[01:49:30] Unknown:

You've disappeared, Jeff. We've just lost you.  

[01:49:34] Unknown:

Oh, sorry. I'll just let you back.   Yeah. So he he was one of the Churchill's sort of people he appointed. It was pretty weird. Pretty odd sort of people.   Very odd sort of crowd of people.   And   and it's a very interesting book by   by,   I can't remember his name at number, called Closet Queens.   And he suggests that the large number of the British government at the time were closet homosexuals, including Churchill himself.   So,  

[01:50:07] Unknown:

well, I wouldn't,   I wouldn't counter that. Certainly from things I've read, the indications are that it's something along that line. There's a I've got a little booklet somewhere kicking around the house by Major W. F. Thurgood. I don't know whether that's a made up name,   but it's about that aspect of Churchill's character. Let's put it that way. I'm being extremely polite as I put it. I'd I'd rather talk about it in barroom language, but this is a family show.   But Yeah. But certainly it indicates very strongly in that direction. And it seems to me that this must be part and parcel of the control grid. It was certainly   the control grid back then for controlling   people in office, political figures.  

They were being controlled by something else.   Yeah?  

[01:50:52] Unknown:

Yeah. So I'll I'll I'll wonder well, there's a good example of one of the American presidents.   Yeah. He was  

[01:51:00] Unknown:

in a sexual relations. Lost you again a bit. We've lost you again a bit, Jeff. Sorry.  

[01:51:05] Unknown:

Yeah. That that was a That's it. The American   president. Right? She who was,   in a relationship   with this woman, and she was doing say to him.   McKimsky was her name. Right. And,   I don't   and I you sort of read about this, and you think it's about she kept the dress after this, you know, with these, sample of these spermite.   I don't you think it's about,   why would you do that? You know? Yep. If it if it was normal, unless you wanted to get something on somebody.   But that that there's so much of this sort of stuff. Politicians are very much kept by a group of people.   You look at Winston Churchill, you know, from the same paper. It's not common knowledge that it it took a huge amounts of money from various people   because he used to spend rather freely.  

Each of the years of that money. Not in when the war took place in 1939,   there was a troop ship   called the Lancastria,   and, it was taking British troops out of France.   And, the Germans took a planes bombed it, and one German plane put a bomb right down its funnel.   Right. It blew the sort of   blew the sank the ship and everything.   And on the same day that was sunk, Winston Churchill was getting a huge   huge wad of money through Brendan Bracken, but most of it was quite secret, to keep him going because he was virtually bankrupt.   And I think in modern times, that would have been about a million pounds.  

And then in 1940, he got another backhander, you know, another sort of amount to keep him going. And that that's how he used to go through. There's a fascinating book which you can read about, Winston Churchill's finances.   And   it's not a a extreme book or anything like that. It's called,  

[01:52:58] Unknown:

No More Champagne by David Lowe. Let me get a copy of that. But I have. I've got it down on my to read list of, the winter, although my to read list is colossal at the moment. But,   yeah. And that that book was produced with the full agreement and compliance of the Churchill estate, wasn't it? They were they just said, yeah. Come on in.   Have a look. Isn't that the case? I'm pretty sure it is. Best.  

[01:53:20] Unknown:

I I think it was. Yes. He he had access to all the Churchill,   finances. But there are gaps where they are missing, especially in crucial sort of times,   and that which he sort of says. But it's already couched very factually. You know? It's,   he he doesn't go into  

[01:53:37] Unknown:

Well, he had this guy that worked with him, didn't he? Another guy that worked with him is the professor. He called him Lindemann.   Lind Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And I remember one of the exchanges they had was that he he was in a room,   and he asked Linderman   to calculate the size of the room and tell him   what the level of champagne would be if if they poured into this room all the champagne   that Churchill had drunk up to that point. And it came up to a height of about 18 inches in this room. It bit that in other words, everything that he drunk agreed. Yeah. Nuts about it. Churchill agreed. Appointed by that. Yes.   Only 18 inches? I expected,  

[01:54:17] Unknown:

you know, three yards or something. Very much. So it wasn't very much. But Chester used to drink a lot of champagne all the time, and it was the very best champagne.   Mhmm. Lind Lindell was a very another strange character. He was extremely anti German as well. Yeah. He's actually born in Baden Baden, which must have been a real wind up for him because he was actually born in in Germany when he was partly diplomatic sort of service. But, you know, he he was one of these people who was pretty pretty sort of odd from that. There was a little bit sort of, odd around sort of Winston Churchill.   I think myself what I was saying. Especially if you look at the closet queens and you find out how many private secretaries   of Winston Churchill's who are homosexual.  

Yeah. It's it's very sort of strange thing. There's also very,   statements   that took place   when he was at,   the the British   military academy at Sandhurst.  

[01:55:12] Unknown:

Yep. So,  

[01:55:13] Unknown:

there was an actual court case taken out by Winston   against   lieutenant Bruce's   father because,   lieutenant Bruce said he had been driven out of Sandhurst by a gang of sodomites led by Winston Churchill.   And,   he was selling his U uniform to this bloke, and he sort of mentioned this.   And, this person, presumably a freemason or something, towed Winston.   And Winston sued, and,   you know, this went through the sort of courts and everything. And,   Bruce's father had to sort of set out a court because he had didn't have a leg to stand on because I've been told that verbally.   But, you know, it's a very sort of strange sort of situation.  

But, you know, kept spend a lot of time not with his wife at all.  

[01:56:03] Unknown:

Yes. What was she called again? I can't remember.   Well, Clem Clementine Hosey. Clementine. That was it. That was the name. That was it. Clementine. I think all of those things seem to me to point to the fact with all of this crew,   there's something very strange happens to them in their early years. They all appear to be emotionally distant from their parents. There's a lot of I'm sure the psychological profiling of all this kind of stuff has advanced considerably in terms of looking at the way that they develop. But, you know, you could argue, and I think many people have,   not in this country because they weren't aware of it, but sort of foreign diplomats that the sort of the public school system over here, so called, produces these sorts of individuals with these kind of behavioral traits, and these are ideal   for dropping into politics and controlling them. But, Geoff, we're kind of at the end of the hour and I just would like you   to wrap up again and just point people back to the website in the book. If you just want to do a little sort of advert for that again that would be great.  

Armreg.co.uk.   Is that right? Armreg.  

[01:57:03] Unknown:

Yeah? That's right. Yeah. Armreg.co.uk.   That's where you can get the book from. The Holocaust Circopedia,   I think it's about 700 pages. It's a four size.   Yeah. The best one to buy is the fully laminated   sort of version.   You all should get versions assigned by Guillermo  

[01:57:23] Unknown:

Rudolph. You know, we we all know how rich Americans are. They're a bit more expensive, but they're the best thing to do. They're loaded. You cannot like us poor Brits, are they? I'm gonna try and get Germaine Germaine. Jeff, I'm go I'm gonna wind it up now because we're just coming to the end of the hour. We're about to, end here on WBN.   We carry on for another hour, but I'd love to have you back on again at some other time, and I'll be in touch with you after the show. It's been great getting to know you a bit more in this call and in this show.   Really good really good good stuff. I think we've handled it really well, so thank you very much for that. It's been good.  



[01:57:57] Unknown:

Well, how about Paul Wiggett gave you a Gracias   esokopedia,   holocaust esokopedia   for free. There you go. Oh, see,  

[01:58:05] Unknown:

the these are the these are the backhanders of this trade, everybody. This is what you do. I'll be in touch, Jeff.   I wanna help out. I wanna help out. But I I I know I already know of another individual that probably wants a copy but I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap up now and kick you off that's what we do right and we're gonna kick you off, but I'm gonna be in touch mate. Thank you very much for coming on today. It's been really good to get to know you over these few calls and particularly on this show a little bit more. So thanks very much. I'll be in touch. And hopefully, sometime in the new year, we'll have you back again for another installment. That would be great.  

[01:58:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I hope it opens a few eyes, really, because there there's lots of stuff out there, and there's lots of stuff which   has been Yeah. Hidden. And it's like, Winston Churchill said, there's no such thing as public opinion,   only,   print opinion,   only the print generated by the press. Fantastic.  

[01:58:55] Unknown:

That's brilliant. Thanks, Jeff. We'll see you again in a few weeks' time. Thank you very much.   We are now heading to the end of our time slot here on WBN, but the show carries on   on, paulenglishlive.com.   So if you wanna keep on tuned in, we've a few more things to talk about trial by jury and a couple of other things and whatever might come up in,   in hour three.   Gonna play a couple of songs now by Cooper Allen.   Not Alan Cooper,   Cooper Allen, an American type, a sort of souped up country singer. So this is Cooper Allen, with a little thing. We'll be back after this couple of songs in hour three. Head over to paulenglishlive.com.   We'll be back again,   next week on WBN, same time, 8PM UK, 3PM US eastern. Here's Cooper with a song or two.  



[01:59:50] Unknown:

You should sing like that and dress like him. Did you see how viral his song went? Son, all it takes is one big hit, and you can sell your soul and make famous friends. Once this whole town thinks you're cool, I know you got a girl, but you can bend the rules. When you got a a mansion and you got a pool, it ain't complicated. All you gotta do is keep kissing their round.   Keep playing the game.   That's how money's made. But, man, there ain't no way.   Give your haircut and your teeth to shine, turn your hat around. And if you don't mind, that post that you posted is rubbing too close to the guy that broke the song that we all know. And it's not offensive, but just in case, well, I'd rather just not have to explain to the press and the tabloids all around town. If you could, would you please just take it down?  

[02:02:13] Unknown:

Crazy shady  

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and store riding for Kroger brand shopping. Man's still going broke.   My overtime's   hurting. This working ain't working. Don't do science, but I'm serving. I should have on dope. We dream to make more just to pay more good, more  

[02:02:33] Unknown:

for   There you go. A brace of a couple of crackers recently released from Cooper Allen. Yeah. He would be known as Alan Cooper in England. He'd be a greengrocer or something. But in America, he's Cooper Allen, which is a bit more exotic.   First one was called Dam in Me.   Damn in d a m n. Damn in Me. And that last one there,   Crazy Shady Uncle. The lyrics are pretty good. I think they're pretty juicy. He's got a YouTube channel so look him up. Cooper Allen. Get subscribed. He's just released a lot of stuff. That first one, Dammin' Me, he released a sort of fifty second clip of it and said this one's going on the album when I'm finished and that was probably back in the spring of this year.   And, some kind soul in, in Idaho, shout out,   sent that to me and I've been looking out for it ever since and it came through this week or about five or six days ago. So I like those. That's probably gonna crop up on this show quite a few times because they're jolly good. Anyway, welcome back to hour three. Yeah. You like that, Eric? Were you I I like that. Yeah. I like the first one. I was boogying away like anything. Yeah. So I was yeah. So even got to,  

[02:05:57] Unknown:

yes. I was picking some boogies. Boogie boogieing away. Yes. Yes. You were doing the Fockham Hall boogie.   That's right. Yes. It's made a nasty mess all over the place.  

[02:06:09] Unknown:

That's what we want. The Bockem the Fockem Hole boogie. Well, then we'll do that. By the way, anybody out there, if you feel like calling in,   we're in the lifestyle. We're we're well, sometimes. I feel a bit hostile now. No. We're very friendly and charming and and courteous. So if you wanna call in and you're on a browser and you've got some microphone hooked up to it or even a browser on your phone,   go to paulenglishlive.com   forward /call,   call, and it'll bring you through into the studio.   It's a StreamYard studio. We'll patch you in and you can   gob off a bit. We'd like to hear from you. Alright. And  

[02:06:44] Unknown:

and if you're incontinent if you're incontinent,   go onto the incontinence website, which is forward slash backward slash forward slash forward slash backward slash. Sorry.  

[02:06:55] Unknown:

Alright. You know what? We've gone nearly two hours. Two hours and six minutes. I know. It's it's that was that's impressive. I think that's a new world record story.  

[02:07:05] Unknown:

I'll see you in the psychiatrist tomorrow.   Well, no. Yeah. Yeah. Actually  

[02:07:09] Unknown:

actually, I blew the whole toilet humor with my backed up plumbing. So,   no.  

[02:07:16] Unknown:

We did. We got an early start on it. It's just that I tend to whenever it's toilet humor, I look to Eric to take the lead. I mean, where else would I look? Where else would I look? I mean, I'm trained. Well, I'm trained. You know.   You know you know the phrase your dog when Eric comes to his toilet joke.  

[02:07:33] Unknown:

Right. You know the phrase, Lord willing and the Creek don't rise? Well, that's normally,   the Lord willing and hopeful hoping the Creek Indians don't rise. But,   today, it's, lord willing, and the plumbing don't rise,   at least this way.   Up here What's happened to your plumbing? York.   What's happened to your plumbing then? Is it it it It's just backed up it's backed up between the building and the street, so everybody that uses water, like my upstairs neighbor, just started a load of laundry.   That was really exciting.  

[02:08:09] Unknown:

The Hey. The bathroom is fun.  

[02:08:11] Unknown:

Well, it is fun. It it looks as it was it's all her washing, or a strange brown color now or or a yellow color or something.  

[02:08:20] Unknown:

No. No. Her washing is fine. Her washing is fine, but I've got,   things that should be draining that are filling up with the water from her washing.   It's it's all very sorted.  

[02:08:35] Unknown:

Well, I enjoyed Jeff there, by the way. Just to say, Jeff, if you're listening, if you're still listening, I enjoyed that. That was, you know, just a change of sort of pace and everything, and I know we were talking about the the topic. Yeah, fantastic. Really good stuff.   So I will be getting a copy of the Holocaust Encyclopedia. Looks like I'm going to get it for nothing. Yeah. Bitch is wrong of me. I should I'll get I'll get a finger wagging from someone. They're quite hefty price. I don't mind, I'll shell out if I need it. I can I can think of someone that needs one anyway in,   I well I know? It's very interesting with that topic as well just as an aside and talking about it in general terms but   there are a couple of people I know who four or five years ago it was not easy to talk about it so much, although they didn't rebuff me out of hand. But,   and Derek's one of them. I don't think he'll be listening to the show so I can say isn't it? Even if he is, hi Derek.  

And,   he's   really got the bit between his teeth. It's very interesting   and,   there are other sorts of things that have happened from there with other people   that have surprised me a little bit by asking me questions about this stuff. I don't really I don't dwell on it too much, haven't done for quite a while actually for all sorts of reasons because I think as well our current situation   is kind of bigger than World War two. It's not really because we're still living in the shadow of it But what's actually taking place right now is on an immense scale   across the whole of, as I've called it, Christendom, you know, the whole of the Western European nations wherever they may currently be residing.  

And so we're in an enormously   different but much bigger sort of fight, hopefully not with competence. Although if we leave it to our government they're gonna, you know, just drag everybody into another completely pointless bloodbath with Russia.   Unfortunately, like the way that the Ukrainians have, Ukrainians, of course, being betrayed by their own leadership, so called,   and,   another hellish situation. But,   it's it's a very important thing. The book sounds awesome to be quite honest. I was glad he came on and just described it. And you know you hear a thing called an encyclopedia but I didn't think it was one. I thought it was just sort of a this is an encyclopedic review of things but it's not, you know. So under the letters it's gonna be pretty cool and I've mentioned here Andy Andrew Carrington Hitchcock's book a few times, The Synagogue of Satan, which if you don't have a copy is well worth having. I've been I I had a few copies and that's a similar sort of thing you can dip into it at any point and find a site it's just a gathering of facts that are of on the historical record that are generally not compiled well. Although in the case of this book I think, Germa Rudolf's expertise, and he's been through it, boy has that lad been through it, so you know he's paid a heavy personal price at times throughout his life, but he's, tremendously committed to actually getting this truth out. And it's,   so it sounds as though the bulk of what anybody would need is gonna be in that doc in that book, and I suspect that the full color version is the way to go. So those of you who need a Christmas present, don't write to me. I can't afford any. I can't afford anymore.  



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But No. No. No. No. No. No. You're you're not getting a free copy because all you have to do is promote the boogers out of it and you'll sell enough copies easily to cover yours.   So you're not getting a free copy. We need a more  

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we do need more of a promotions arm around here with all of our work, but I don't wanna go into that right now on air. But we but we do. I think everybody's aware of that, so we could certainly be improved in that department.   But having   almost like, you know, the fact that he's   I know some of the writers in it. I know of Mattonio's work and these other people that I was reading, you know, quite a while. These books have been around for quite a while, most of this century, many of them, and there's been very serious efforts. It's just a matter of actually getting   potential readers   to come at it in the right mindset as opposed to the reactive one. It's and it there's nothing we can really do about that. They're pump primed in that area just like we are in so many others to act,   in an emotionally reactive way,   and it's not particularly helpful for acquiring the truth. But then as Mencken said most people don't like that anyway. So there we go,   this turns you into a scoundrel,   and we're all scoundrels here which is which is a oops. Excuse me. A a very good full film was School for Scoundrels   with Yes. It was. Michael.  

Yes. Was Terry Thomas in it? Can't remember exactly. He was a cad. He was the ultimate cad. He was a Yes. A a real cad. He was an absolute bander.  

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Yes. They don't make films like that anymore, do they?  

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No. As a 10 as a tennis   player and erstwhile watcher, I only really watch formula one. So   and tennis. That's about all I watch is my sort of to ventilate my brain and to just take some time off thinking about this stuff. I just act like a big kid around it. I really do. I'm like a sort of pathetic baby.   My boys go why do you get so wound up by this? I'm going what's the point of watching it otherwise? I said, you know, I want to get into it. So I switch on my 15 year old maniac head and just behave like a child for about two or three hours. And then go, it's okay now and I just go back to being normal again, which is much more boring, but you need to do it. You've got to have grown up sometimes and   yeah. So, the the what I was gonna say was that tennis match that's in that film   is fantastic.  

Have you seen the tennis match? I've seen it. Yeah. It's just so funny. Yes. I was because Terry Thomas is walking,   What's his name? Carmichael's losing every point. He goes, oh, hard cheese, oh boy. That's it. Yes. It's the ball. Hard cheese. He says hard cheese about 30 times and I started saying it around the house. You know, what's hard cheese mean? It means tough luck. You know, you've Yeah. You've got the ropey bit of the old cheese. You didn't get it when it was all plump and juicy and fresh. You've got it all, you know, it's decayed. It's been in the kitchen for a couple of weeks and it's it's like a bullet now. So hard cheese, old boy. I love all that stuff. It's It's very funny. Well, it may make sure your opponent, they're they're facing the sun so they're blinded by the sun. That's all these different techniques.  

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But,   you don't get books like, well, remember ripping yarns,   and that was about sort of boys' books. But talking about that, the chap, Captain W. E. Johns,   he was born up the road to me at a place called Benjio in Hartford. Not many people know that. And he wrote the Biggles books. You're like,  

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yes. Biggles. Past that name.   I I could never get past the name of Biggles. I just thought it was sort of like a Mickey take or something.   It's just a ridiculous name. Bigglesworth. Isn't that his full name?   I don't know. But I know what was it now? I think it's Bigglesworth. Corporal or Lieutenant Bigglesworth. It starts off with But but I But it's just Earl Biggles. He'll source it now. Biggles has piles.  

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Pickles Biggles has a homosexual   relationship.   Biggles, you know, that that I don't think that was.  

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Stop it. Stop it. This is still a family show, isn't it? Is it? But, yeah, it's it's happened at 10:00.  

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A dysfunctional family show now. Yes. You turned it into one. But yeah. Biggles has Are you saying Biggles has nothing without his wig?   What you saying? What? What's that? I didn't call it. Biggles has nothing without his wig.  

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Biggles   wig.   Yeah. Biggles wig. Biggles wig. Well, yeah. The Biggles wickians. I'll have to get Richard on here, mister Vogue. So I'm sure I can. I I saw him a few weeks ago. He's he's not very well. Is he? No. He's not very well. Is he? No. He's what's happened is he's,  

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he's pulled some mussels   and   Farming. In him. And,   he's a he's, you know, he he I saw his video today, and he wasn't a happy happy bunny. Oh. Yes. But, Oh, I have to send him some ointment.   We have to send him some liniment or something. It's a bit bit it's a bit like a shrimp that goes to a disco and pulls a muscle, you know. That's what he's like. Mhmm. Sorry.   And,   no. You missed that one. And   that's a dad joke. Okay? But no. But no. Apparently, what I'm he's gonna getting on his getting on his van in his van   or unloading something,   and he slipped.  

And he to avoid   sort of impelling himself on a pitchfork, he he slipped a funny way and pulled a load of muscles   and and and stretched and that. And I personally think he acupuncture would do him a lot of good.   That's what my personal thought is. And,   if he could get some proper acupuncture   with the place I go to,   that would that would sort him out. That I think that really would.   So, just a thought. The trouble is can he can he join Wartrech here?  

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I don't know.   I'll I'll go and see the old boy and see how he's getting on. Maybe sprain his cravat. It can happen, you know.  

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Or he could have had a sprend cravat.  

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Yes. Yeah. He might what was that thing? He might have had to have what was that thing that Eric Morcombe used to say about Ernie Wise? Oh, he's been in the hospital having his wallet removed.   Which I quite like.  

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Oh, yes. I've been right since his his wig came back from the dry cleaners.  

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That's right.   Yeah. So maybe he sprained his his cravat or he's had his pipe removed or something or this Yeah. There's something going on. So well, good luck to you Richard even though you probably won't hear me say that but at least I'm sending the waves out. So hope hope you recover well, you know, if you're gonna be a farmer you'll be a leathery tough sinewy peasant very soon at this rate. So hopefully, as long as your muscles don't give out.   Quite quite a a tough little sort of thing that farming like. Anyway, no doubt he will dovetail his efforts I think in with Mark, the bowler hatted farmer.   Speaking of which, although I haven't spoken to him recently, I was on with Ria,   on WBN   Yeah. Just gone this Sunday for the last hour and it was just I never know quite what we're gonna talk about. I make two or three notes to talk about things but we ended up talking really about the whole food thing which was good and promoting Foodhub,   which was good. And Patrick was kind enough to send me the link because I was straining for it in my head and couldn't remember what the hell it was. Wait. Even now I can't. So what a dope. I need to get it up on my website. So there's that's what I meant by the promotion stuff. There's a lots of glue that we need to add into this space to assist people to find these things a little bit more easily. Just talking about it here it's, you know, it's just on the air and then it goes but It's knowing where the information is. I mean it's like having a knowledge of something. You don't necessarily know the answer, but you know we can get the answer. And that that is always the key to it. And I think we gotta do something because we can't go on like this. And I've noticed loads of other people are starting up little food hubs and things like that. He's not the only one. Well, I I came across this crop, Eric, the other day Mhmm. In a video as you do. I'm getting vegetable videos now all the time. Oh, yeah. Do you know what it's like with the search algorithm? I've done a few things and suddenly I'm getting lots of vegetable videos. But it was about a a tuber. I think potato are potatoes tubers? Is that what they call? They grow below the ground. Is that right? A tuber? That's it. Yes. Yes. So there's a tuber that apparently has been demonized by the powers that should not be and has been classified as a weed. It isn't.  

It's called chufa,   c h u f a, chufa.   And I thought, oh I'd be well chuffed if I can grow some chufa.   Apparently it's also known as tiger nuts which is a bit weird,   but it's been a staple diet of peasants and slaves, that's you lot everybody, right, and me.   For thousands of years the Egyptians fed a lot of their people on it and it's it's much higher   in good stuff than a potato,   and appears to be relatively easy to grow and the yield is I think potatoes they were saying approximately three tons per acre a yield on potatoes.   Chew for three to six tons depending on what the weather was like. So I've been looking into it. Apparently it's pretty good stuff. They were making,   sort of puddings and cakes out of it in in Egypt. You say puddings and cakes to me. I'm with you. You know, if you tell me that there's a pudding I could eat. Oh, that's yes. Yeah. We like puddings. And if you said here's the pudding and this is all you ever really need to eat and it's just a fantastic you know, if I could live off Bakewell tart and custom, it's got all the things that you need, probably wouldn't look around for much else to be quite honest although I suppose you can get sick of anything. But,   it looks pretty good. So chufa, look it up c h u f a. I sent it over to Mark. I said should I become a a chufa   grower? You know? I've got a garden so I've got to do something with it. So I think you're right. I mean, just yeah. So it looks pretty cool. Apparently, each bundle when you put it, it's got about 75   tiger nuts as they call them. They're about the size of a walnut, a bit smaller than a walnut   and,   it's got some really cool qualities like   once you've got it out the ground it lasts for years, it lasts for years and it's naturally sealing in its little case. You can then re moisturize them by putting them back into water.  

They keep wonderfully at normal air temperature. You don't need a fridge to keep them in. They're they've got lots of stuff in them. I can't remember what it was. Yeah. Yeah. It looked really good. And this is why   they grow and this is probably why they banned it because they can't even come out with a pesticide. They classified it as a weed. It ain't a weed. Again, it's this control of what we can do. You can't have that. You can't eat that. Why? Because we might start to get strong again, you know. It's That's right. This contributive thing. So   yeah.  



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Dandelions are the best thing to eat. You can eat them all year round and you can eat a whole plant.   And,   there there's you can actually make coffee out of the root. Dandelions. Yes. Yes. Yeah? And you can make coffee out the roots. That's what the,   Confederate army did during the American Civil War. They called it Confederate. Is that right? Because they they didn't have much money, so they actually made coffee from the root of dandelions,   which you can do. Yeah.   But it's full of vitamin c and iron because,   they grow whether I think they they they refurbish the soil. They're marvelous things, dandelions.  



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But You make wines and flowers.  

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That's right. And survival Steve,   he knows all about eating wild stuff because he uses SAS.   And,   you can also eat   thistles.   Not the, obviously, the stingy bits, but the root this the stems of thistles.   And I have,   and it tastes like shit.   I'm following  

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that. They are edible, you know. You're not selling this very well, Eric.  

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No. No. Nettle. No.   Stinging nettle, you can you can eat that. And if you steam No. No. You don't eat the stinging yes. That's right. Yes.   If you steam it, it takes the sting out of the little spikes that it immediately neutralizes them. So That's right. And the Romans used to have nettles as medicine because they distrusted doctors.  

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And for hundreds of years What? Used nettles.  

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Well, apparently, this chicken has got medicinal   qualities as well, they were saying.   There's nettle soup isn't there and stuff like that. All these so the wise women of the village, we need you back.   Of course, you know, killing loads of them under the under the claim that they were witches in the Middle Ages.   Good grief.   Seriously.   It's out of order, isn't it? Always. Whenever the peasants are actually getting sorted, we get interfered with and put down. They can't stand it. They just can't stand it.  

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Yeah. I know. So Well, it's it's to do with control.   I mean, for example, I had a a lady called Kathy on one of my shows,   very interesting lady,   And I bought some cream off of her, which is made out of all wild stuff. It's a beautiful smell. You could actually use it as aftershave.   And,   I found,   a Braun shaver that I didn't know I had, is sitting in the back of a cupboard that, I bought in the eighties.   And shavers have come a long way since the eighties. So I used it the other day. Bloody. It was like How how's your chin?   It's it's it's like it's it's like someone had rubbed sandpaper over my face. And, you know, I put Kathy's cream on, and that's made from nettles, I believe.  

And,   my skin feels great now. But,   yes. It's it's,   shavers have come Braun are very good, but they've come a long way since the eighties.   That's all I can say, really.   But,   no. I think that  

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with I haven't shaved in ages. I haven't shaved in years.  

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Ripped the whiskers out by the roots, did it, Eric? I don't.  

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Did it rip the whiskers out by the roots? Barber. I go to see my private barber and he trims my beard. So, you  

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know,  

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I'm looking like one of those guys from the,   the hairdressing salon with a clipped beard and everything all sort of like that. Yeah. As I'm getting older. Yeah. I've got to go that way. There's a comment in here by the way from Nathan Lucius. I'm sure he's got it spelled wrong. He says, got the song. That was the Cooper Allen song. He probably isn't listening now. He said, thanks Paul. Write back to the battle. Surely   didn't he mean to write back to the bottle? I don't understand. What what does that mean? What does he mean back to the battle?   I've no idea. There's a war going on in his house. Margie, he's coming on he should be coming on my show this Sunday so he'd be out fine anyway. He's such a radio tart isn't he? Going on people's shows and things like this. It's unbelievable. Yes. Yeah. Always a bitch. It's good. We can talk about him because he's not here. So we're talking about him, yeah, while he's not here which is always, you know, completely underhand and absolutely great fun.  

Anyway,   Eric, I have a question for you. What do you think about Michael Portillo?   He's good with trains, isn't he? He's good with trains. He likes trains. He's,  

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in the old sense, he's no. I better not say that word. He's No.  

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Well, I'm looking at a clip of him here just to give everybody an indication. You can't see this, but the color of his jacket is vivid   tangerine stroke orange. It's an incredible color, but I wanted to play you this clip. It's not actually about him. He's not the main speaker,   but this is to do with trial by jury. I just stumbled across this the other day and it's actually, you know, they they're talking about all this kind of stuff. Mister Poulton.   Yeah. This is a three minute clip so it's a little bit of a a longer one, but it's worth listening to.   And I'll tell you them, I think the other guy is called Ellis.  

Sir Michael Ellis used to be a barrister.   He's now a politician for somewhere or other,   and he's defending trial by jury, and Portillo   is revealing himself to be well, you be the judge. Here we go.  

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Huge backlog of cases. Yes.   The backlog doesn't do any favors to the victims of crime, doesn't do any favors to those who are accused of crime. It seems actually quite sensible to   sweep juries aside in a majority of cases and try and clear this backlog by 2029.  

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Well, this is a disastrous plan. And for one thing, it won't work to clear the backlog in in my view.   What this does is say that we're gonna dispense with juries after frankly eight hundred years   of English   history, judicial history.   Jury trials became a thing in the year 12/15,   although they actually started even before that, a few years before that, in the reign of Henry the second. And here we are in a cavalier fashion   saying that people who   will be likely to receive sentences of less than three years should not have a jury. Now the problem with that, Michael, and the reason why it isn't gonna work, frankly,   is because   already you've got 70%   of all cases that appear before the magistrates   ending in a conviction.  

If you do away with a jury,   you're going to increase the numbers of convictions.   And if you do that, already 90 to 95% of all criminal cases go before the magistrates.   If you increase that further,   you're going to find there are more convictions that's going to put more pressure on the already overcrowded prison estate. So if you're looking to take pressure off the state system, I don't think this is gonna work. That's point number one. But point number two, in principle,   you're going to be removing a fundamental   human right   of the English people.  

And in fact, we were world leaders in this sphere. Soon after trial by ordeal,   you know, divine intervention was was removed, this process began.  

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And we're going to say, no. We're going to say people can't have a jury trial of their peers to decide whether they're guilty or not guilty of quite serious offenses. I'm I'm not sure that I find the longevity of the system a particularly convincing argument. I mean, there are many things that we did hundreds of years ago that we have ceased to do, and life has changed in all sorts of ways. I mean, apart from anything else, I don't particularly want to serve in a jury, and many   English and Scottish or Welsh people would probably feel the same. I mean, if if justice could be done efficiently by people who are trained to dispense justice and trained to make judgments,  

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why shouldn't we have fewer jury trials? Well, because it's a fundamental right to test the rights of the British people in front of a jury   if they're charged with an offense.   We must remember that people are innocent until proven guilty.   And in my experience, seventeen years at the criminal bar before going into politics,   when people are facing a trial,   and they are they have their whole life, their liberty,   and everything about their future existence at stake,   they want to have a trial by jury.  

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So Portillo reveals himself to be a systems guy. Ho ho ho. No surprises there. Right? Slapped my thought. You're amazing.   Yeah. Experts. What's he talking about? And when he says life's changed, it hasn't.   Not on the fundamentals it hasn't changed. The form of it has, the technology has changed.   But people still commit crimes and this is outside of any sort of change in the mode of living.   This is about   the best, the least worst way, let's put it that, by a mile by a thousand million trillion miles   to actually build up a body of justice and a history of justice within the nation. Whatever we might mean by justice, I know it's a big word and it's for it's worthy it's own discussion in itself.   But a jury of your peers. So, you know, that guy's been a barrister. He was also the former Attorney General,   Michael Ellis.  

And there's,   this goofy numbnuts   just basically saying let's leave it to the experts. Oh yeah. Let's leave banking to the experts as well. Let's leave it all to the experts.   What   it's a completely   opposing world view.   Because these people are trained in becoming experts, they do everything they can to make sure there's plenty of job for experts   in the case where they're not even needed. They're totally surplus to requirements. We don't want them. We want   that. And apart from which this 80,000 backlog could be sorted very easily with trial by jury, it would mean including more people in it. And when he said, this is a bit that really hacked me off, well, I don't want to do that and I don't think many other people wanna do it. What? Who are you? You haven't even asked me. I'd do it. Oh you can't do it Paul, you're a you're a scoundrel. Okay well count me out then. But there's got to be enough people that we've got to be involved in that. This is part of again distancing us from these areas of decision making and responsibility. And then they said don't worry we'll do it in your best interest. We're protecting you, you see, from all that hard work of going to the jury. If it was just simply   I would say that if you if you don't do jury duty you don't get the vote.  

How about that?   Paul. That's got to be linked to some sort of contribution   and stuff. You know, there probably are individuals that are not fit for jury service. And I know that that that process itself, jury selection, is open to abuse, yeah, But it's still better than a so called judge who's basically supposed to be the convener of the court to make sure that the rules are kept. He's not supposed to decide or she. I mean, we only have to look at some of these recent decisions. There was that one I was talking about the other week where, some pedophile's been let off completely and a guy that put a tweet up has been sentenced to twenty months.   No. That guy should have had trial by jury and he'd been let off wouldn't he?  

Because he's mad.   So we can't influence the sort of mood of the country,   because this is all by design. But, you know, Portillo,   sorry, stick to trains mate. That's about the only thing that you've actually presented that makes any sense even if we did have to look at your lurid colored trousers, you great wifter,   and all that kind of stuff. But he presented it reasonably well. I don't know what Paul thinks about Portillo as a transport  

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Well, it's it's sort of, the trouble is he's the type of man that would suck a fisherman's friend, isn't he really?  

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Lozinger. Lozinger. Well, it is half ten, so I suppose you can say things like that. Yes. Yes.   Well, when you talk about lozenges, it's very innocent. I know you are. I knew what you meant. I like a lozenge too.   I was joking on one of it earlier. That's what I was getting. This is just not a British problem.  

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This is a global problem. And the problem is the administrative   state going nuts,   demonizing   everything,   even innocent things that the people are doing or things that people need to do to survive because they've made it so exorbitantly difficult.   If they want to get rid of the   overburdened   justice system,   put a little bit more justice in the system and figure out what is actually   a crime and what isn't.   Don't be stupid.   Administrative   policy   is not law.   It's policy.   And the system is overburdened by an overbearing   policy.  

They have not fixed. Idea isn't one  

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aspect of trial by jury, another way of calling it or describing it, customary   law. In other words,   it reflects the customs of the people at that particular time. Now we may have different customs but of course most of them have been imposed courtesy of a psychological programming system called the main,   mainstream media for a long time. People now think now hold opinions   which are absolutely counter to their own well-being   because the crowd hold those opinions. This is about this sort of crowd conditioning nonsense.   Were you to go back to trial by jury, I almost feel like everybody should participate in it.  

Actually, you know if you're gonna be a responsible   adult within your nation   you should, it would mean of course, look I know this is not gonna happen I'm just sort of   spitballing, is that the word it is? You know, it would mean that more a wider array of people would become familiar   with the operations of so called justice   and would be it begin to be able to determine it. And one of the things of course that they didn't address there, not that I expected them so I'm not even blaming them, but is this power of the jury that when it sits it's the highest law in the land. It can dismiss the law. In other words, this guy that came up on the tweet it could simply say this is not a law, we don't stand back, we're a free speech country,   crush it, take it off the books. And they can crush it. That's what they don't want. They can't control speech that way.  



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That is what a fully informed jury does. That's what fiji.org   is about, the fully informed jury association.   A jury is not only supposed to be able to decide the guilt or innocence of the defendant   but also the validity   of the law. If they   are   deciding the guilt or innocence of somebody that did something that the jury doesn't think that the jury should be held guilty or accountable for, they can just strike down the law. And not only that case goes away, but that law goes away.   The jury is the stop gap. It's the it's the protective mechanism to keep law from running amok,   which it has done.  



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I know. Portillo wants it to run amok because, you know, don't worry everybody, we've got experts.   Yeah.   Oh, well, phew. Thank crikey for that. We've got pertexes.   We this is just I I am reassured, Michael. I mean, he's a nose. Madness.   You know. I I don't believe that because it's old. What are you on about? It means it's proven.   You know, oh let's just dismiss this proven   system, the least worst. Let's call it that. The least worst system we've ever had that nobody else had that we pioneered here based on fight. That's what it took. It took a lot of fighting. I mean, were we talking about Magna Carta last week? We're you know, I was talking about William Marshall. Was it last week? I can't remember. William Marshall, this knight, is the guy that made Magna oh it was on with you Paul actually and Brent the other day. William Marshall was the knight without which Magna Carta would never have been put in place and he was in his early 60s at the time. He was a fighting knight, he lived to about 71   and he was   awesome.  

Nobody even knows who he is.   Yeah. And and and the minute that they got Magna Carta passed,   the barons and everybody else immediately started to unpick it. Yeah. Even the barons because they wanted more, you see. This is this problem. Then it's just about self interest on steroids with these guys to the point where they are they pretend to represent the people as long as they get more money or get more land or get more power or can keep the plebs away.   It's,   nothing new under the sun. So,   you know, Portillo's wrong. Things are exactly the same. They're no different.  

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Or they get to go down in history as being the, hero.   Either more money, more power, or more recognition and a place in the history books. Mhmm. That's all they're looking for.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. And it's bizarre how,   even in that, you know, Portillo is not in politics anymore. He just gets to speak a lot and get given a lot of money by the BBC, which comes out of our pockets everybody, so this is great.   But he's not acknowledging,   he doesn't understand where the value lies,   you know. It's not about we requiring him to do that. What we require is   an improved jury system. I'm sure it can be improved in so many ways. Just like you're saying with this organization feature, and Mer Bailey's put the link there in the in the rumble chat, fija.org   for those of you that wanna look at particularly US people because I guess it's it's obviously based on their fully informed jury association, which is great idea.  

I mean, I remember what we were talking about here is to do with   standing and not being in their jurisdiction.   And that's really what we we're gonna have to find some way of enacting. This is about building up infrastructure, that big old word. But it is like locations and an administrative   process that says this guy's got to rock up at 10:00 on Tuesday morning and then we need a jury of his peers. We need all these car mechanics.   Got any? Yeah, we've got them. Now because he's a car mechanic and he's he's up for dodgy breaks and somebody died or some you know, these things just happen. We have to have a a system of doing that kind of stuff. It would become dynamic. I think it could be, you know, people could just say, you can't bring them in here on parking tickets. Get rid of that law.   You just get rid of them. Well, that's what they don't want. The jury because we say we don't want The jury of  

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the jury of one's peers has nothing to do with whether you're a car mechanic and you need a jury full of car mechanics. It is political status.   It is your political position in the infrastructure   of the citizenry.   And if you're a fourteenth amendment citizen in The US, a whole bunch of other fourteenth amendment citizens are gonna be sitting in that jury box deciding your guilt or innocence.   It's your political class that is where your peers come from. They can have   they can be completely different,   socioeconomic class. They can be completely different heredity.   They can come from   any number of backgrounds   that have absolutely nothing to do with you and and the barometer in which you measure your own life. As long as they have that class of fourteenth amendment citizen purely by virtue of the fact that they either naturalized or were born in The United States, they are deemed to be   able to sit in judgment of you. And that's ridiculous. Mhmm. It's absolutely stupid.  

So they've already nullified   the jury for all intents and purposes. What people need to do is they need to stand up and they say leave our damn jury alone and not only leave it alone, put it back the way it was, the way God and the founding the founders of the country and the the world   intended it to be. It's the people that have to stand up and demand the change that they expect to see. If they keep sitting around   eating popcorn and watching prime time TV, nothing's gonna change. Get off your butts, people.  

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And also, if you got common law,   which is cause no harm,   was it,   common law is just you you don't   it's respect for other people. It makes it very simple. So   injury, loss, or harm. You don't cause injury, loss, or harm. So if you've got a traffic offense, say,   you say, right. Who's been injured? Who's been lost? What's been lost? Nobody. If you cause any harm to anybody, right, that's it. Off. Don't have to do anything. And I think that we just little more than that.  

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Yes. Just a little bit more than that. You have to tell the truth. You don't bear false witness. You keep your contracts.   You, you conduct your life in an ethical and moral way, and you cause no one harm, loss, or injury. And that is   common law.   Going six miles an hour or six kilometers per hour over the speed limit, sorry, nobody was injured.  

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Correct.   That's it. If someone's injured, that's a different thing.  

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And but the charges in laws are there make money at the moment. It's a money making racket law. Well, it's the culture, isn't it? If the culture is that you step back to allow experts in,   Experts need to get paid. Now not on day one, but you leave it one hundred years and you end up with this evolved machinery   where everybody's looking to get paid. Because they've got to get paid, I accept that. But there's too many people, you've got bloat   in the legal system. Their language is bloated.   It becomes bloat. No one understands fully what they're talking about. So is this bloat all the time? Alice Gorgias, right, she says clearly,   the juries aren't being properly informed.  

The Judge   is to explain the law to the jury   absolutely and to guide them and say stop you miss that's his job, he's the referee.   Cool. If he's an expert that's where you need him. Referees   are supposed to do that, but it's not his decision. And he can give,   can he give advice? I suggest you consider this that and the other in your deliberations. I'm cool with all of that. I don't have a problem. There is a there is a role for the convener of the case or of the court case   to contribute in some way but to completely rem it's the fact that we as people need to be involved but Paul just coming back to the point that you mentioned.   If people are indifferent about the outcome of the law and most people are because they're just gonna keep their head down and and assume that they're never going to end up in a court. But if you look at what's taking place with all the proliferation of so called laws and that's all they are, they're so called laws, they're not actually laws at all, they're acts and statutes and these things. People are going to get caught. It's an entire system designed   to pay legal services,   for situations which you shouldn't even be in court for at all. And of course juries would be able to get rid of these laws and say this is not a law, this is not our custom anymore, we don't do this. Right? You know, it may be that in 1642   if you shouted at a sheep you'd get hung. Now it used to be a situation over here, you know, that if you shot a deer you'd get hung.  

This is in the November. You get hung for shooting any any animals on the land and eating meat. So he could do it. King's deer. The some Because that was the king's deer.   That's right. So we got now if you got up to jury, you go, well, we need to eat meat, so we're gonna do it. And we change it. Well, we can't let them do that. They'll start changing the law. Yeah. Because we live here.   Well It's like so you're only supposed to participate   as an object of abuse,   Yeah. But as an actual,  

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you know. That's right. But everything changed with Blair.   Blair was in the law and you had these petty things like, for example, I don't know it's the same in The States,   but you go to a supermarket,   their parking is   monitored by some   firm. So if you're if you only got, say, forty minutes parking and you're forty one one minute over it, you get not a fine, but you get what they could they call it now, a parking charge come through your litter box. And they threaten you with court, and they threaten you with bailiffs. People are just ignoring them. Is it similar in The States where, you know, where you go to a supermarket or shops, you're already given a certain amount of time to park? No.   You  

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No. If if you're if you're shopping there, you can park in the lot as long as you're shopping.   And Walmart's, you can actually spend the night there as long as, you know, you shop the night before.   No.  

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Oh, no. Over here, it's that that that yeah. And what they're doing is,   if you don't park within the you know, if you if your   tire is up two minute two inches over the white line, they'll do you for that. Oh, they're just hot. And all it is is money money money money money. Advanced retreat. And I feel It's their culture, isn't it, Eric? It's it's a culture that's developed and cultures  

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generally go on for a long time unexamined.   No one gets conscious about it. It's it's the old fish in water thing. But it's always been like this. Why? And I know what your problem is. Why has it been like this for so long? Because somebody got bullied eight hundred years ago. People caved in and that was it. You know? Like a television head. That's right.  

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Now I'm not a telly,  

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but I'm being threatened by the television licensing people. Why should that be? Yeah. Well, that's that's first of all, that's ridiculous that you have to pay a tax to the BBC.   That's ridiculous whether you watch it or not or whether you have a television.   But it it but I know exactly what happened. I know what exactly caused the the tyranny that you guys are under. You're just too bloody polite.   That's the problem. We are. You know, your your tire is a little bit over the white line or the yellow line or whatever, and they they hit you at £20 for it. You're just too damn polite.  

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And   my my neighbor, she got done for 60 pounds,   which is about, what, $70.80 dollars, because she parked on a yellow line to go into the supermarket, which was on private property. And I said, well, just ignore it. But she's she's ailing. She's getting on a bit. And she would have the bailiffs come round. She'd be pestered by letters, and they just wear you down and wear you down. And so in the end, the pit was out. Sorry. I think I'll pay it. And these people, I think, are the lowest form of scum you could ever wish to find because,  

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you know But they're unconscious too, Eric, aren't they?   Like Portillo is on autopilot.   So many people are on autopilot. They just are, no matter what their position is, they're just they're saying sentences that they've been saying for a long time and they've not examined, I would suggest in great part, what it is that's coming out of their mouth. That that because they're comfy, they don't need to. This is part of it. No. They're not. You're really sort of Yes. They're conditioned just to sorry. I didn't mean to cut in there, but they are just conditioned  

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along the same route, and they can only think in straight lines. They can't think out of the box. It's just straight lines all the time. And I've noticed that MPs are the most gullible people you're gonna ever wish to come up against. Because,   oh, I'll go and have this done. I'll go and see we get professionals in. Well, professionals are not always professional. And look at the chairs. That's supposed to be full of professionals. I won't go anywhere near it unless I had to. You know, I was left as a Couple of couple of comments in here from Billy Silver. First one's just rotten Billy.  

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Imagine being stuck on a train journey with Portillo in your carriage, pompous gid. Oh my god.   Yeah. Well, maybe we could have that as a penalty. Maybe that's a penalty that you've got to pay. You've got to go to Tranje. Shut it up. And the other one, he writes he says, sir William Marshall,   what what does it come to now that Keir Starmer gets the equivalent title? He's not fit to clean the shit out of his horse stable. No. He's not.  

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He's not. I've got a plan. I've got an idea.   Get 75 or a 100 people. What's your plan?   My plan is you pick a grocery store,   pick a public place,   and you get 75 or a 100 people to descend on the building to ask them what their policy is   on,   parking   infractions,   like, say, parking on the yellow line   or whatever. Get their official policy and position on it and then publish that position   as fuel for a boycott of that store.   Keep everybody out of that damn store, because the store is allowing them to   invade private property   to do parking enforcement.  

The store may even get a kickback   from the parking enforcement from their parking lot.   But if it's gonna cost them business,   they're gonna make a change.  

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Vote with your pounds. Vote with your money. I agree with you. People won't do it though because they say they can't be bothered. Oh, why not? Oh, I'm gonna say I'm gonna phrase that a different way, Eric. They haven't done it yet.   I like a little bit of positive. They haven't done it yet. And I think in New Zealand, didn't they? They had a terror ticket day  

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where people just part where they want put part on the yellow lines in the city and that. And when they got the ticket, they just tore it. And this was in, oh, the nineteen eighties. Don't know what happened with it, but they had the terror ticket day. And I think we should have a terror ticket year.   So you just   put the port drive these bastards   that are intimidating people out of business   because it's not You could have national these people sleep at night.  

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You could have national ticket tiring day.   Just just hold them onto them until they tear them all up.   But don't litter.  

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But you'll get the when these well, when these bailiffs come along   to clamp your car, the police come with them.   Right. Mhmm. Police are with them with and and the police,   that's not their job. Their job is is is for crime,  

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and there's no crime being committed. No. No. No. Do you know what police stands for?   Policy   enforcement.   That's what they are. They work for the corporations. They work for the government.   They're policy enforcers. They are not   law enforcement   officers. Not anymore.   Policy and phone. Policy Policy. That's what it comes for, and that's where it comes from. Policy enforcement.  

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Well, I won't mind being a policeman on traffic control if I got a car like we've got on the show tonight.  

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Oh, that'd be excellent.  

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That would be excellent.   That would be quite good. You've gotta be able to catch the bad guys. And I would use a lot of Brylcreem to keep what's left of my hair in place.   6,000 horsepower. Everything. Catch.  

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Yes. Catching a lot of bad guys with 6,000 horsepower. What more do you need? What more do you need? 6,000 horsepower. That's what's needed. I mean, when I go along to the barbers, I'll try to lock my haircut, please, and it gets a magnifying glass out.   Cheeky   sod. Does that do that with you? Yeah. Sorry.  

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No. I've still got I've still got more than I've got less, but I reckon   in a few years time when I hit 70, I'm probably gonna   possibly be very close to being in your club, Eric. It's just one of those things. I think I've done quite well actually. I don't sit around fretting about it. But I do, you know, I actually thought, well, it's lasted a lot longer than I thought really. It's just I don't know why it goes. It just seems silly. I've still got fingernails. They don't fall out. Why should that fall out? But, you know, probably my diet. I don't know. Too many wheatos. I don't Well, no. I know what it is. Know.  

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But my dad was bored, and they said it's in my jeans. So I changed from Wranglers to Levi's, and it made no difference at all.   But, I mean, I went along with the doctors the other day, and I said, excuse me. I've got genetic diarrhea.   And Yeah. I said, genetic diarrhea?   She said, no such thing. I said, yes. There is. It's in my genes.   Sorry.   It's  

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that's actually  

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that's quite sorted when you think about it. I just   did.  

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Thank you, Eric.   Thank you for that.  

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I'm laughing and I've learned it before. So mental picture is gonna follow me too. That's what I like, Eric. I like that. Someone who laughs at their own joke is fantastic. It's pretty touching pictures.   You can just sit and amuse yourself all evening. It's absolutely fantastic stuff.  

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That mental image is gonna follow me right into the new year.  

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So you got genetic diarrhea as well.   So  

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Good Lord. I did I did have a couple more topics to go,   but we've only got five or six minutes left so we're just gonna have to spin this one out for the last remainder of things. I'm tempted to play that song again but that would be wrong.   But, what was I gonna talk about? Just I'll I'll try and keep this in my hopper   for next week. There's been,   there's a woman   on a lady.   Now what what's she called again? Hang on. Let me just bring this up. Called Lucy White   on Twitter.   Lucy   Jane with a y   white   one is her handle. Lucy Jane White one, public policy specialist University of Cambridge alumna.   She's been saying some extremely tasty things recently, really sound things, things that we've touched upon here in this show. You know I've mentioned that I've never understood why people that come here get the vote.  

Well it's still a complete mystery to me. I never gave it to them.   They're of a different culture, they have a different religious   system. Fine Fine. Doesn't mean that they can't participate here though because it'll warp it which of course means that it's by design. But she came out with a thing there was a there's a some minister   who was born in Kashmir who was giving a speech in the House of Commons last week and her and she's got she's received, I believe, a lot of sort of feedback on this,   but much of it good. She's saying nobody that's born outside of these islands, I would extend it even further, but nobody that's born out of these islands can occupy a position of power. Correct?   Now juries could get onto that couldn't they? You see the power of this stuff. We go, you can't have that as a law, right? We don't want it. We live here, you see? We live here just as much as you do. We might live in smaller houses and you might be charging us too much and making us pay for a BBC   v license so that we get socially engineered every night, those who are foolish enough to watch that crap.  

But,   that's that's why it's important. The jury thing is pretty important. It's an,   a sort of do it all device   for beginning to chip away at the disease of control. It puts   control   for a short period of time on extremely important issues, I. E. People being charged with serious crimes in the hands of the people.   Oh, you're not fit to wield it? Well,   we're no less fit to wield it than you are.   Seriously,   are we? You know, look at this judge like I was saying, you know, you write a tweet, you go to prison for twenty months, you're a pedophile   and you don't go anywhere.  

Obviously, this is all by design, but we seem to have no mechanism by which to arrest   their destructive behavior.   And it seems to me that the word traitor is correct if you look it up in the dictionary.   They are betraying   their own nation, a nation being a tribe of people of the same race with a shared history, culture, and language. In my case the English, someone further north the Scots, and the Welsh to the West and so on and so forth. And so that's what they're doing and it's like this word racist, I don't know if Geoff was touching upon it. I mean I've got a lot of stuff that I wanted to talk about on race but we'll hopefully I'll keep that back for next week.   It's very important. I think that word, by the way, is losing its charge. I'm absolutely convinced it's losing its charge. People are declaring, you know, oh, so you're a racist. Yeah. And what's your point? Everybody is. But we've got to get a agree with people. Yeah.  

Yeah. Paul.  

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I think I can understand why they're locking up who they are and   and why they're not locking up the other ones. Oh, yes. If you owned a prison   and if you were responsible for hiring the guards,   what would you want in your cells?   A bunch of pedophiles, rapists, and murderers,   or a bunch of,   people that got   nailed for a traffic infraction   or cheating on their council taxes or,   you know, innocent   not innocent, but   but unviolent   violent offenses.   Who would you rather   be hiring guards   to watch over them?   The really bad guys, the worst examples of humanity, or the people that are basically   good people that the system just screwed them.  

You'd obviously want it filled with people that were   good little people that followed the rules and   feared the guards and everything else. You don't want the bad guys. They're too much work.   So let the rapists and the pedophiles go,   lock up the guy that got caught with a joint in his back pocket because he forgot it was there from the party the night before.   What it's all about.   Night took us right to the end. It is.  

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Ah, it did. Well done. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Jeff, in absent Thank you, Paul. And for everybody commenting in YouTube and Rumble this evening.   I've enjoyed tonight. It's been a lot of fun. I was gonna read out a post from Lucy White, but look her up. She's definitely worth following.   Lots of good statistical information and a very clear proposition, which is totally in line with much of what we talk about here. In the meantime, have a cracking week everybody. We'll see you same time next week.   Keep good and all that kind of stuff.  

One more show before Christmas show or something like that. We have to decide on that.   It all depends on how much bread sauce there is in the house. Good grief. It's a dangerous time. Keep well. We'll see you in a week's time. Bye for now everyone. Bye bye.  

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Bye bye, boys. Have fun