This week we leaned into Orwell’s mirror. Kicking off with Eric Blair/George Orwell and the BBC in our sights, we unpacked the “mainstream media mendacity” of the week, including the BBC’s editing controversies and Talk’s sacking of breakfast host Mike Graham, and asked what these moments reveal about how news is shaped, sold and enforced. From Question Time to Doctor Who, we explored how culture gets nudged, and why calm, plain‑spoken persuasion beats lectern‑thumping in winning minds back from propaganda. Along the way we played Van Morrison’s Educating Archie and They Own the Media to soundtrack a bigger question: who frames the narrative—and how do we take that power back? With Eric von Essex and Nathan Lucius, the conversation ranged from Edward Bernays and the long arc of PR, to the Fabian roots behind “1984,” to Enoch Powell’s blunt warnings about political cowardice. We revisited establishment scandals (Savile, Mountbatten, the Krays), debated the charity-industrial complex, and even took a geeky pitstop in the Linux vs. Windows trenches. Nathan also previewed his Saturnalia‑season event with Steve James and Mark Devlin, diving into the esoteric threads behind Christmas lore. Bottom line: keep your sense of humour, keep your wits, and keep building the parallel media we want to see.
- 'The Orwell Foundation': https://www.orwellfoundation.com/
- George Orwell – 1984 (Penguin/Vintage edition): https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/441676/1984-by-orwell-george/9781784876555
- Fabian Society (founded 1884): https://fabians.org.uk/
- Edward Bernays – biography (Encyclopaedia Britannica): https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Bernays
- Talk (News UK’s streaming/radio platform): https://talk.tv/
- Question Time (BBC topical debate programme): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_Time_(TV_programme)
- Room 101 (radio/TV based on Orwell’s idea): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_101_(radio_series)
- Doctor Who – official site (BBC Studios): https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/shop-the-whoniverse-bbc-studios-debuts-official-doctor-who-online-shop
- Rod Liddle – author page at The Spectator: https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/rod-liddle/
- Bank of England – Andrew Bailey (Governor) biography: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/people/andrew-bailey/biography
- Van Morrison – Born to Sing: No Plan B (includes “Educating Archie”): https://www.vanmorrison.com/music/born-to-sing-no-plan
- Van Morrison – Latest Record Project, Vol. 1 (includes “They Own the Media”): https://www.vanmorrison.com/music/latest-record-project
- BBC Children in Need (official site): https://www.bbcchildreninneed.co.uk/
- Comic Relief (UK charity): https://www.comicrelief.com/
- Comic Relief US (sister organisation): https://www.comicrelief.org/
- Cliff Richard – official website: https://www.cliffrichard.org/
- Jimmy Savile – background (Wikipedia overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile
- Lord Louis Mountbatten – background (Wikipedia overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Mountbatten
- Kray twins – background (Wikipedia overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kray_twins
- Enoch Powell – biography (Encyclopaedia Britannica): https://www.britannica.com/biography/Enoch-Powell
- Mark Devlin – speaker/DJ/author (official site): https://djmarkdevlin.com/
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Well,
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hi, everyone, and welcome back. It's Thursday again. The weeks are definitely getting shorter, aren't they? They're certainly getting darker. The evenings are getting darker. Anyway, Paul English Live. We're here with you for the next two hours on WBN, a little bit longer elsewhere. This is episode 113, an inauspicious number, we hope not. Let's get the show started. It's been a good week for the mainstream media, particularly if you work at the BBC. I don't, by the way, although I have applied for a job. Well, hi everyone and welcome back. Yes, it's November 0 is it the thirteenth? It is. This is episode a 113 on November 13. That should help me remember things. I don't know quite why I need to remember all these things. Hope you've had a good week anyway.
As I said, there it's nice and gloomy and doomy outside here. Lots of rain, but it's been a beautiful day. It's been a beautiful day. Very warm this morning. Still got the shorts on, you'll all be very keen to know that, no doubt. And, I've been out for a little toddle, talked to people as I do as is my want. Lots of people very very pessimistic about the future weather forecast which is always really rather tedious to listen to them. One lady came up to me and said, oh, it's all going to turn and become terrible, she said. And I said, have you been watching that television again? You need to stop doing that. Just stop watching the television. They don't know what's going on, certainly not the BBC.
Anyway, for those of you who are not with us on Rumble and YouTube and a big shout out to everybody that's there already, hi chatters and, here we are on WBN, we're here every Thursday. But for those of you that can't see the video stream or today's image or you haven't found it or whatever, although you can see it at paulenglishlive.com, we've got a picture of mister Blair smoking a cigarette. Not no, not Tony Blair. Good grief. Good grief, we would never do anything quite so drastic as that. No, not Tony Blair. And, it's Eric Blair, who, everybody else would probably know more thoroughly as, George Orwell.
Mister George Orwell. And it's kind of just the starting theme for today's show because we're gonna be looking at mainstream media mendacity. I do like a little bit of alliteration as you can tell, so if you don't know what mendacity is you can go look it up but it basically means to be a conniving lying git. It's a bit strong I suppose what I put. But, certainly it's the heritage unfortunately, or fortunately for all of us, of the BBC which has, come to, come to great prominence this week. Because, those of you that have, been aware of it, I think Mr. Donald Trump, who's the president of The United States currently, last time I looked which was sometime this morning, he's a bit cross with the BBC.
And if you don't know what this is all about, because it's a really good recent example of all the mess here in the world, is that, the January 6 thing that took place a couple of years ago, the BBC kindly decided to edit the clip, of Mr. Trump speaking in such a way, and if you haven't seen it you need to look it up. Well, you don't need to but you might want to, you'll just have to take my word for it right now if you've not seen it. But they edited the clip in such a way, that it appeared that Mr. Trump was actually inciting everybody to violence. The BBC did this.
And apparently some people in certain quarters are shocked. Well, most of the Britons that pay attention aren't. I'm one of them. And another one who probably isn't too shocked about the whole thing would be, would be Eric von Essex who's obviously just rocked up. Eric, good evening. Welcome to the show. How are you?
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Good evening. I'm very well. Thank you. I've got a note from my parents. Sorry I'm late. Have you? And, yes. Noticed. Yes.
[00:07:23] Unknown:
Really?
[00:07:24] Unknown:
Well, the the the BBC line to us never. They they they're there for the truth, aren't they? I mean, we know they they wouldn't dare light us. You've only got watch that beautiful program called Question Time, where a sick bag isn't big enough. I think it is a dustbin. It's so contrived. It's beyond It's fucking adults acting as you know? A politician says something that I went all sort of clapping, you know? You know, they're giving everybody the clap. Sorry. I mean, then it's I find it childish. The entire BBC now is run by people that should be in a mental institution or in a private cell. As much particularly.
[00:08:11] Unknown:
Well, I think maybe the ones that have retired, that have just, or left, maybe applying for jobs in there. Although, I I read I can't remember the name. Davy, is it, or something that had cheese? He's bound to be signed up soon or whatever. But as I've mentioned here before, the BBC actually stands for the Bolshevik Brainwashing Corporation. And don't worry. We're not going to exhaust you all night by talking about the BBC because, really, we've explained their entire raison d'etre already, which is to, basically actually, I've got a quote from someone from a few years ago. I'll I'll bring it into the show a little bit later on. When I say a few years ago, I mean the eighteen hundreds, with regards to the mendacity in newspapers and the and the mainstream press at the time.
But, the BBC have got a a long record of this which, of course, they don't publish or they don't broadcast on their television stations, which is a bit of a surprise. I thought they wanted to keep us well informed and abreast of things. But it's a wretched organization, it really is, for all sorts of reasons. And I I, I was watching an interview with a guy a guy called, Rod Little, I think it is. I'll I'll I'll mulled his name. He writes for The Spectator. The Spectator may be a rag, by the way. This isn't mean to say I'm actually condoning it or whatever. But, I've seen him, around and about and I I saw an interview in the other day. I was gonna sort of play clips from it. It was a bit a bit long winded, in a way, really, for sort of a a clip during the show.
But he was talking to the interviewer about the caliber of the staff there at the BBC. And I think, Eric, it's probably fair to say that there isn't any caliber of staff left in it. And the whole place has been just tunneled out with, well, snowflakes to be quite honest. I mean, I I was reading a lot of the comments underneath the video. Many of them said, well, yeah, the news is terrible, but I don't watch it for the news, but the dramas are really good. And I thought, well, that's not true either to be quite honest. The whole place is so utterly mangled and is basically being used to sort of culturally hijack the brains of the Britons that that unfortunately choose to watch it from time to time. I mean, have you been watching any BBC dramas recently and been thoroughly entertained? I haven't.
[00:10:28] Unknown:
No. I can't because I haven't got a television anymore. But the thing is, I haven't had one for fifteen years. I don't meet. But what I what gets me with the, when I briefly look at the BBC, if I'm, say, standing in the bank and they got it blasting out at you on the screen, or I go to a friend's house where they got it on, is that, they use a lot of nudge in things. Yeah. These, you know, snudged things like Doctor Who, they've got leprechauns. Oh, sorry. Lesbians and things like that. And they know that children watch, Doctor Who. They're very keen on it. And they, there was, a couple of alien lesbians when I was went into my neighbor's house to fix something and, she had it on. I was thinking, what on earth is this rubbish all about? And it's all that kind of nudge to make things look as if they're normal when they're not.
[00:11:22] Unknown:
Yeah. And that is I'm just having a bit of a problem with your sound at the moment, Eric. Hang on. I don't know why. It's sort of fading in and out. Could you could you speak again or something? I don't know what's going on. Right. How's how's that? I'll have a look at my sound and try and do something No. We seem to be okay now. It's just going in and out a little bit. I think it's just slightly intimate. It's not too bad now. No. We just kind of lost you a little bit. But yeah. No. The thing about the, Sorry. Sorry. You're gonna say sorry, Paul. No. After you. After you, mate. Well, I was just gonna say that the thing about their dramas, and it is a bit of a drama watching one if I'm present because I get quite vocal about it. I can't oh, dear. You can just see basically over and over and over again with everything that they do that they've got this cultural agenda which they're seeking to get across.
And it's basically just an extension of the whole globalist thing. And I'm kind of glad that this event has happened, with regards to their it's absolutely so overt. They're tampering with Trump's speech. I mean, it's just inordinately it's criminal. And I I read something It is. I mean, I sound awfully outraged of the home counties. It's criminal. They we shouldn't this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes. But there's sort of things going on all the time with this organization because it's not it's not very British at all, to be quite honest. It should be the globalist Bolshevik, you know, brainwashing corporation, the GBC, really. Oh. And, yeah. Sorry?
[00:12:51] Unknown:
Well well, Orwell hated the BBC, and Room 101 was actually a conference room where he had to get is often grilled in the tedious meetings. And that's where the, show, Room 101 came from because, it was, from 1984, because he set that as his torture chamber in 1984. So, you know, and I mean and the weird thing with, I mean, that, photo you got actually, the the the caption for this, show is, George Orwell's real name was Eric Arthur Blair. Isn't that weird?
[00:13:31] Unknown:
Yes. And If it's so that we had, we had a we had mister Blair on. Yeah. The prime minister. Yes.
[00:13:39] Unknown:
Minister. Sorry. Minister. Yes. Or Monther. But, you know, but that's the weird thing. Because I really do believe people like Blair and Starmer and that, they're not normal. I don't know whether they're demonically possessed or what it is, but they are not normal. And this is one thing I think we look should look into because about thirty years ago when the BBC started to go really weird because the days when Bill Cotton junior was director general, things seem to be okay. And it seemed to go a bit weird at the sort of, shall we say, eighties to nineties.
And it went weirder as we went into the 02/09 '99,
[00:14:23] Unknown:
where it was I think ever since ever since Tony Blair became the prime minister, it started to go wonky. I, obviously, Doctor Who was a a kid's favorite back in the sixties and seventies. I was one of them. I quite liked Daleks and Cybermen and all that, and I quite liked Patrick Shrouton. Like Yeah.
[00:14:45] Unknown:
Right? That's right. And, did you did you build the BBs sorry, the, Blue Peter Dalek when they did it on the television?
[00:14:54] Unknown:
I don't think I did. I I was suffering from severe Dalek envy with my friend, Kevin, who had an entire Dalek outfit. I can't describe it. It was awesome. It was awesome when you're six and seven. Yeah? So basically, you you it was quite hefty and everything. It was almost like well, not life size. I suppose kiddie size. Right? It'd be about two thirds the size of the real thing. And you basically put it over you and it hung on your shoulders like with these sort of straps. And you had, you had a big pushy thing and you had a, an extermination thing, you know, whatever it is called. I don't know. And it was blue and the other shit. Yeah. It was great. I had the plunger. I had the sink plunger. That was really good, you know. Now I've got to unblock the sink. Yeah. So I never really got past that. I was always I couldn't believe that he had this and that I didn't have one. And then I didn't really find the Daleks particularly charming. I did find the Cybermen particularly menacing. I remember when I was a kid, I didn't like that too much. But I mean, our childhood, pathetic memories aside, it had a sort of coherent stupidity to it back then. And I used to love the idea really later on when I was a teenager. You see all the sets wobbling. They're all made out of cardboard and stuff.
And it was sort of ridiculous. Oh, shit. Shit. Isn't it?
[00:16:08] Unknown:
It was. Well, who'd ever thought it was a shrink plunger on a on a on a Dalek? And how do they climb years? But I've never first spiked Milligan's Daleks. Do you remember that one? Where, was it a a woman's bariatric or a Dalek? Good evening, darling. How did you get on today at work? My boss had a go at me. I exterminated him. Yeah.
[00:16:30] Unknown:
There was quite a bit of that, wasn't there? I mean, when when Star Trek rocked up, of course, it made Doctor Who I mean, from a sort of, you know, visual production value point of view because they had phases in Star Trek. That was the only bit that I liked about it. The rest of it just drove me bonkers, actually. I couldn't stand it. And, you know, Spock's ears. But anyway, I'm kind of drifting off the point a bit. The thing I was gonna come to was that when they rebooted it, the early the early ones, which I think they rebooted it in the nineties, didn't they, or something like that, they weren't too bad. They weren't actually that bad. And then they started to go wonky. They just started to get wonkier and wonkier.
And of course, it seems as though the actors that play it are given an instruction set that they've got to act as if, as if they're on speed or something. They're all kind of stupidly manic. Most of them would get overexcited about things and have to run around. I suppose they just put energy into the show. I don't really know what it was. But I found it all really rather rather tiresome and exhaustive. And I've often thought that the plots were so ludicrously crap all the time. I'm serious. They're just lame. Really, really bad stuff. I could never really sort of take it seriously. It was just sort of something that was on. But I think, I don't know who the current one is. Don't they have an African playing Doctor Who or something now? And prior to that they had a woman.
I don't care. I mean, I'm not even bothered.
[00:17:54] Unknown:
Not. Yeah. I bet she was I bet she was a lesbian, though. They've always gotta be a lesbian. They've always gotta bring one of those Latin as well. You're so biased. So it's gotta be a multicultural lesbian, one legged lesbian on I don't know. Yeah. It's it's always the same old crap in it that they they would we're out. But these people are who get into this senior management, they are mentally ill. They shouldn't be there. And there is I I really do believe that the problem we have is not recognizing psychopaths in senior positions. Because if you had any experience of psychopaths, they think completely different to humans. Not all of them. Not all, but the predatory ones.
And as I've often said, until we find a way of separating the predatory psychopaths from the rest of humanity, we'll always have this nonsense, and we'll always have wars because they are their brain is completely wired differently to ours. We will never understand them. They understand us, alright, and they know how to pull the strings and know how to hypnotize susceptible people. That is the big problem. That's where they got the advantage where they can be in a minority. They've
[00:19:05] Unknown:
they've definitely got them there. I think I think another part of it is that there's, like, you know, like, all the woke people sort of congregate together a bit like scum around the plughole and stuff like this. There's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of it. It's literally a totally leftist and wokeist organization. It's sort of it didn't used to be. I think what they were saying was that this sort of this hellish version of it, the latest iteration, began about 2015. I don't know. There must have been some change in senior staff there. Not that I'm sort of holding my breath and waiting for it to get good again, whatever I might mean by that. I suppose it was just that the brainwashing was at least a little bit more civilized and more palatable in the past. Today, possibly it's a good thing that it's so unpalatable you can't watch it, which is great. But but it's full of people that have basically been you've mentioned this before. It seems to me lots of them have never really had it difficult in life and they've swum through university or whatever.
The BBC is flooded with money because it pilfers it from everybody's pockets at the rate of what is it, £15 a month for a TV license? Something like that, I think, these days.
[00:20:16] Unknown:
They've even read stories. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a talent.
[00:20:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, even if you did, you shouldn't have a TV license. It's rich coming from me. I've I'm sort of ambivalent about what to do. I've said before that, if we're gonna really defund the BBC, it needs to be done en masse in a huge blow one Monday morning. That'd be interesting. You know, I mean, like, half a million people just suddenly stop paying it are currently paying it. That would just bring it you know, stop its gears grinding, I would have thought. But everything that they've done is to be in line with this sort of globalist culture that they're trying to create. And trying is the opposite operate operative word because that's all they're gonna keep on doing is trying to do that and failing miserably, because there's no root to it. It's I think it's why so much is so flimsy. I think this guy Rod Liddell was saying that they seem to have an obsession with transvestites and drag queens. I not that I would know. I don't watch it at all anymore. I know that there've been lots of dancing things which the ladies love on a Saturday night. I'm not against that. If it's charming or whatever, you know, it's not my cup of tea, but good grief. You've got to fill a schedule up with something.
But overall, it's it's very lame. I mean, the the the level of comedy that's on it, as far as I can discern well, there isn't one anymore. There there's nothing sort of in there that's useful to anybody. So I I think this news thing coming out, is really good, actually. I think it needs to be kicked in the nudges of this organization. Of course, I'm not alone. This is not a sort of, a brilliant position that I'm taking. I'm sure many many listeners here share if you're in the in Britain, you'll probably share a similar view, many more than I've ever done before. And and if if Trump does sue it, I think it was something to the tune of a billion dollars. Well, go on then. Smash it up. I don't care. It doesn't represent us anyway. I mean, who are we going to lose the BBC? What do you mean we haven't got it? It doesn't work for us anyway. So good. The government Yeah.
[00:22:08] Unknown:
Yeah. But the government but the government will bail it out because, BBC is an integral part it is a propaganda machine, yes, but also it's part an integral part of the military, and people don't realize that. That's the thing. Mhmm. And it started going to its up in Lord Burt, that was John Burt started. I remember. He was director general from 1999 to 2000. And Greg Dyke, what I what I served, Dyke. Those two screwed it unbelievably. They just screwed it up. And as I say, from 1992 onwards when law Burt or yeah. He's a law now. Mhmm.
John Burt became director general. It went straight down the toilet from there on. So Yeah. I think that but you see the thing is, the BBC, it works hand in glove with the secret services. So it will carry on. Yes. And they want their people to pay to be brainwashed. That's exactly what they're doing. They're being they're paying to be brainwashed all the time. And they've tried to they've tried to turn it down by calling it aunt auntie BBC and things like that. I mean, look at that, rubbish they have there. It's coming up soon, is it? Pudsey bear thing. What is it? Children in need. Oh, yeah.
[00:23:29] Unknown:
What's that? Is that is that correct? Yeah. What is that red nose day thing or whatever? It there's something repellent about that. There always has been. I I found all these sorts of big sort of fundraising things that they do. And you get all these celebs rock up. They're all sort of slapping each other on the back. And you just go, there's something stomach churningly disgusting about this. They're also self congratulatory about stuff. And no one ever gives you a report about how much money finally ends up helping people out. The helping people out. The the thing about these large scale organized charities, I guess we're going slightly away from the point but it's still relevant, is that we have no way of knowing. I mean, the way that charity should actually work should be on a very local basis. And if you see someone in trouble and you can help them, help them. If you can, it's a good thing to do. Really is. I mean, I'm always giving fivers to a few guys that are sleeping in the doorways around here.
Cost me about 5 I'm a bit of a similar ill. But I'll do it. I won't give them a tenner because I know I just think it's too much. But if I've got a fiver, maybe inflation means next year it will be a tenner that I'll give them. But if I've got it and I'm feeling sort of okay and I'm not under any I'll I'll give it to them. I'm not gonna imperil everything, you know. My budgets are tight, Eric. My budgets are tight. But I don't need extra money to do stuff. And if they wanna go off and get a beer, they're welcome to it. I don't really mind but, you know, so and some of them, they're really decent people. You just say and I don't know their backstory and I guess I don't really wanna know because it'll break me up. But they've obviously so they're not all drug addicts and I know the ones that are because down here, it being a seaside town, there's, there are there's a couple of the sort of seating areas that and there's two particularly that I think on a Saturday afternoon, it's sort of like the the town drunks are all there. They're like in a big gang, you know. There's about seven or eight of them. And, they seem to have at least they've got companionship as they drink themselves to death.
I you know, there's no point me talking to them that is too far gone with all that. I'm talking about these other people I just see from time to time. Isn't that how it's supposed to really work? It seems to me anyway. So put some back in. Get trashed, Frankie.
[00:25:35] Unknown:
Yeah. But I don't really believe he's being anyway, so because we should, yeah, we should live in a society that does not have people sleeping rough. Or if they are sleeping rough, they're doing it out of their own volition. They've got a choice to do it. Mhmm. And quite honestly, you and I grew up in a time when there was no housing shortage. And suddenly, in the late seventies, early eighties, they started to become a housing shortage. Surprise, surprise. And then when Blair came in, they they when the gates were opened even further to allow any de Comte de Conte in this country, there became a massive housing shortage. But in the sixties and seventies, there was not a housing shortage.
And this is the thing with with charity. To me, these big charities are there similar to a military charity, which I won't name, that was set up in 1921. Again, that was a propaganda agency to take the heat off government, and that's all it does. Yeah. So the gov government can screw us even more, to pay the usury scammers and get away with it whilst people are living rough and poor, which to me is is is is disgusting. And I'm similar. I will not give a penny to charity unless I go into a charity shop, and then I'll part my pay for something if I want. But, sorry. I always pay for almost everything. I don't I don't know what I mean by that. You don't nick it. He's a that's okay. A charity shop. I don't nick it. Yeah. That's what I've been getting. But when I see a a chat, Paul, Saul, that's down out. I mean, I actually gave to a chat last year. Freezing cold day, and he's just sitting there.
And I gave him some money, and he's in a very posh voice. Thank you so much, sir. It's very kind of you. Look. And this chat was extraordinary, I think. I think it's it's just fallen on hard times. And it what gives me the amount of young people that are are out of, haven't got a home. And they're English. And they're often mainly Spanish as well. That, to me, is horrendous. Shouldn't be. What the hell's going on? That, you know, there's always been tramps, but Yep. They, years ago, were tramps because they wanted to be tramps. Not now, you know. And, that's really what angers me.
[00:27:56] Unknown:
Can I just twiddle your technical trousers one more time? So Certainly. What's happening? You were a bit muffled and we've got you clear, but your volume's dropped off. Is there any way you can raise your volume at your end?
[00:28:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Sure. I'll just raise the volume. I'll do it again. It's dropped down again. There we are. How's that? Is that is that up again? Is that alright? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Just leave it at that. I'm just gonna throttle you down a bit here at this point too fab. That's good. Yeah. It's actually throttled down on its own because I actually put the volume up. I'm playing with it at this end as the actress said to the bishop. I am. Oh, really? We we don't get into that. Yes. I don't like playing with it. Yeah. Right. How's that? Is that better?
[00:28:38] Unknown:
Yeah. That's way better. Sorry about everyone, but we've no. We could hear you. I could hear you okay, but there was definitely something crazy going on. So we've got a cleaner system. Keep an eye on that.
[00:28:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll keep the window open with the volume, control, and I'll I'll, I'll, what, keep an eye on it all the time because there's something really weird going on, you know.
[00:29:00] Unknown:
Anyway, that's that's my understanding. What you just said as well. I was I just wanted to dovetail what you just said there about, the military and the sort of security agencies, you know, using the BBC as a conduit for propaganda all the time. But we had a we had a fun little outing, didn't we, on Tuesday morning this week when we got together to to cover remembrance day. And, that's my little segue because we're going into the military thing there as well. But I, I really enjoyed myself. If you haven't caught it, it's up on my channel. It might be up on Eric's channel. I don't really know. But we had a good little time of it there. I I, I really enjoyed it a lot. Probably more than I should have done because, I'd had a nice cup of tea for breakfast. I was I felt very relaxed because it gets late at night here. The gloom sets in and I've had too much whiskey before and stuff. I haven't actually. I don't drink whiskey at all. I don't drink. But, you know, it it was it was great to to go over that kind of stuff. And in a way, it does tap into this because, you know, if we look at the whole history of propaganda I know we we mention it. We come around to this topic probably maybe in every show even for only a few minutes.
But the beginning of it really at the be you know, with regards to the mechanical version of propaganda in the early part of the twentieth century, certainly with World War one, certainly with Edward Bernays, and certainly with him, you you know, that quote we mentioned a few weeks ago that this marshalling of the public opinion is the great hidden government that's over people. And in our case, the BBC is one of the great conduits of this guff. So that's our that's our little thread because certainly, you know, they can't get their wars organized properly without without the BBC, without its approval, you see? That's right.
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And when I worked there, I've been so I worked there. I was there on a space. It wasn't permanent. And how I got in there, the agent that got me in there was a freemason. And it was very, very masonic, and you you would go up to and all the team people are freemasons. And you got to the photocopy machine. There's all masonic literature all around there. I said, what the bleeding hell is this? And the secretaries used to, do the masonic work for well, I don't mean to be funny to that, but, you know, they used to type up all kinds of weird mud of all things to their masonic meetings. And there were people in senior positions who were sons of bigwigs who didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing. And that was the real matter. And the other thing is that, when I worked there and I didn't sign the official eight secrets act, so I can probably say this, I did some work on, a transmitter station, and that was, you know, doing all the sort of architecture for it. But then also worked on, a project that I never went there that was on an island somewhere.
And, it was a listening post for the RAF. So they work hand in glove with the military, and that's all I can re I I I wanna live a few more years on this Earth, so that's all I'll say. Even though I did sign the the, official secrets act. And it's one of these projects where if you wanted to know, given our you know, wanted to know a certain part of the building, you had to put write it down what the information you wanted, and it's, you're already given the information that you need to know. It's a need to know basis. And they come back with a question, why do you need to know this? And I'll say, well, because of dicks, y, zed. And it would take you about a bleeding week to find out why a beam is going across a certain area and things like that. And, where this memo went to is, your guess, as good as mine. But it was something to do with the RAF that I was dealing with. And, again, as I say, I never signed his feat secret official secrets act. I was just an ordinary contract bloke doing a doing a bit of architecture there in a place called Henrywood House, which is opposite, Broadcasting House, where there's that famous sculpture of, a pedophile,
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which I used to actually post every day, and I didn't even notice it. Yes. That's right. Gil. The Yes. The guy that created Gil sans, an extremely elegant font, or at least I used to say that in the eighties before I knew his backstory. But he was yeah. It seems to me as though it's historically been a haven for perverts. The BBC. I mean, it's Oh, crumbs. Eric Gill goes back a long way, doesn't he? Isn't that nineteen twenties or something?
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And things like this? I think so. But when I worked there, there's loads of it's like a family of people Mhmm. That have been there since they left school and never had any other job in their life. And as I say, they do work hand in glove with the military, I'm pretty sure. You know, that that that I mean, for example, there's and I can say this for a fact, that, and I didn't find this out when I worked there, but I found this out since on the Internet. There's a broadcasting place in Wales, and during the Cold War, if all else failed, this place would broadcast.
So if there's a civil war in this country, they would still broadcast a BBC from a secret location.
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What? Right. So there we go. Well So, Well, I'm sure they've got a lot of plans to do. In glove with the military. Yes. Yeah. They must be. They must be. I think, something just ran through my head and it ran out the other ear. Bugger. Can't remember what it was. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. It was really just to do with this being come back. No. No. No. I've got it. It was really just to do with this whole, the the caliber of the people or the the dark underbelly of the BBC, which Yes. You know, as time goes by and more researchers look at it, you realize that there's just this long history of entertainers, let's call them that, being corrupted, being drawn into something dark.
And it's not necessarily in recent times. And, you know, the the big one, of course, that still rings around to this day is Jimmy Savile, and rightly so. Very, very strange man in all sorts of ways. Very, very strange. He had a very strange relationship with his mother because he was, apparently a very sickly child but managed to survive. So she sort of conferred almost like a a saintly status upon him as if he was a miracle. So he grew up hearing all this kind of stuff. And he is very I mean, it's just a very strange life. He's a very strange man. I was listening to an investigative reporter earlier about it today. I wasn't even looking for this stuff but I thought obviously it dovetails into what we're talking about. That's twice I've said dovetails. I'm gonna have to stop doing that. People think I'm a carpenter. He, you may know he was a miner. He used to go work down the pit. Right?
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That's right. No. He was a bevin boy, wasn't he?
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Yeah. But he would dress strangely going down the pit. Apparently, he would dress in an odd way and and marked himself out as very distinct distinctively different. Then he fell in with some mobsters in Manchester. Of course, when I was a kid, the idea of mobsters in England was just strange. I thought that only took place in America. This is when I was, you know, eight or something. But this is England. We don't do that sort of thing, do we? Apparently, we do. And, even then he was known to beat people up. I know he talked about this at clubs and stuff. That's right. So, he had a temper on him about stuff and he was pretty fit, I suppose, and being a minor.
And there is something kind of the more you look at him, if you not that you would want to anymore now. I guess it's almost impossible to look at clips of him without having your your skin crawl because of what a creep he is. But the what he was saying was that this he had connections with other. There's a lot of evidence to suggest he had connections with lots of other serial killers. There's evidence to suggest that he knew the Moors murderers, Myra Hindley and that other wretched piece of genetic mistake. I can't can't remember his name. That he bumped into these people in and around mountains and forests. And,
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Yorkshire Ripper?
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Well Yorkshire Ripper as well. Well, the the here's a really strange thing. I mean, I did sort of know this, but I just got the details flashed back into my head listening to this thing this morning, which was that, do you remember I don't know if you remember. A body, one of Sutcliffe's victims, was found in Savile's Garden. Did you know that?
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Are you there, Eric? Know that. I really didn't know that.
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Yeah. I You're still here? Are you still there? Well, I know that a body was found in a garden, but I think at the time, they never really pushed this side of it. Certainly according to this investigative report by the way, I can't back this up. This is what I heard earlier today. So there may be listeners out here, certainly on Rumble and YouTube, who know more about this in details. I'm I'm scanning the chat. But he said it's almost like they've got some kind of related weird club, a strange club between them. And it was almost like an offering or a trophy for Savile or something weird. And they're definitely unhinged. There is a sort of an unhinged group of people. They're probably, unfortunately, still these sorts of people sitting around, I'm afraid. But yeah.
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But they they reckon he was the mister fix it because that's a show at Jim Will Fix It. Excuse my language. It's a bit of a piss take. Because you notice he would say words three times, and that's to do with magic or stuff. Because I did hear that he was the seventh sun, which is something weird, seventh sun of the seventh sun. I haven't looked into it, I don't know how true it is. I know that, John Purway was. He was a but I I wouldn't link him to Jimmy Savile because there's nothing nasty, you know. He's he seemed to have a very good life. But with Jimmy Savile, you would say now then, now then, now then. What's that three times? And those strange noises he made, he he was very, very, very odd. But, what got me was he was good friends, with that fat liberal bloke. What was his name now? Cyril Smith. Another one. Cyril Smith. Yes. Famous for hang gliding, wasn't he? No. Cyril Smith, the MP for Leeds or somewhere, I think it was. And, he was Rochdale. Peter Farrell as well.
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That's it. MP for Rochdale. Yeah. Rochdale. Absolutely. I mean, a reply got that wrong observation. They've got some kind of you know, my thing is, you know, you can look at certain guys, and I think you can tell really, really quickly. They're they're people that if you shook their hand, their hands would be sweaty and cold. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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I know exactly what you're talking about. And and that that is actually my father had a thing about handshakes. And if someone gave him a limp handshake, he'd never trust the person. I'm the same. My brother would have had a limp handshake. And and, I mean, my dad would look you straight in the eye and shake your hand really hard. And he he he drummed that into me from a childhood. He's you always and people will go after a shaking their hand, you know, because I was shaking their hands so hard. But, my brother-in-law, for example, it was like a wet clipper gun in in I've seen my dad's face the first time my future brother well, my my my sister's future husband shook hands on my dad, and it was so lit it was unbelievable.
And, there's a lot like that. And he said, you can tell a man by the handshake. And he was right. I think he was right. I think you can. I guess you're I guess you were brought up in a similar way.
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Well, I think so. I mean, I know some people yeah. I was to a degree. Yeah. You know people that really shake your hand. I don't trust that either. It's like, look. Just
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there's a level. Some people are like showing up. I'm gonna crush your hand. Stop that. Right? Just pat it as well. Firm and look here in the face. I'm solid, but some people go over the top with it. And when they go over the top, that means there's something that that that that they're acting it.
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It's interesting. You read someone so fast just from a handshake. Yeah. Yeah. We do. We've got a bit of lag between us, Eric, just to let you know. But don't worry. I think we're It's, Yeah. We've got overlap taking place here on your Internet connection. I think This is weird going on. Open. Yeah. If you if you've got anything else open on your machine, shut everything else down because it isn't alright. Okay. I I didn't think you did, but I just thought I'd say it like a a baby. Some anyway, some interesting comments coming. One's now just worth a quick No no apps. No. That's okay. That's okay. You don't need to it's not a roll call. I just thought I'd mention it.
Billy Silver writes just going back a few minutes from when we're talking about charities. He says, a lot of chatter about Bono and Bob Geldof and lost funds, wouldn't surprise me at all. Bonio. Bonio, of course. Yeah. Those people. And, also writes that it has been said that Jimmy Savile's mother made a satanic bargain that baby Savile survived. You know, there's definitely something strange going on. How did this guy from, you know, working down a pit end up hanging out with royalty and all these other people and being completely safeguarded by them? There's something very odd taking place there, obviously.
Harvey, number one, shout out. By the way, I don't shout out everybody's name because I'll miss them out. So it's just a shout out to all of you. Otherwise, it's rude if if I don't say your name. I'm bound to not I'm bound to miss a few out. Harvey, number one, writes, it says, my wife was in the same room as the Yorkshire Ripper, Jimmy Savile, and the Queen. All at the same time? At the same if I mean, I'll post pics to Telegram later. Well, I Wow. Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Yeah. Amazing. I hope you obviously, your mum did fine and came out as well. Interesting.
It is. Yeah.
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Well, late Dave Starbuck, you're sorry. Carry on, mate. I'm gonna
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try and allow for this. We're gonna say lag.
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Okay. I could I could, come out and come back in again. That might be a better idea. Do that at the break. I was gonna say, Jake, you're gonna take a break. He was an independent judge. We'll take a break in about twenty minutes. I reckon we'll do that. So do it at the break. So I'm gonna be quite you you have a chat now. You just have a few words. It's okay. We'll bumble through. Well, what I was gonna say is, Dave Starbuck, the late great Dave Starbuck, he was, he he used to talk revelation text in the nineteen eighties. And it sounds like a religious group, but it wasn't. He was before the Internet, interviewing people, telling the truth.
And Mhmm. He was an independent journalist. And, to be in when he's it was, before that must have been eighties. And he said before all news about Jimmy Savile broke, people he was the, you know, he was the, glibber in the BBC's eye. He could do no wrong. And at that time, people said, oh, he's marvelous, and all this, that, and the other. A nurse came to see day day Starbuck and told him that, she, caught Jimmy Savile red handed in the mortuary of the hospital where she worked, and she told him a lot about Jimmy Savile. And when she walked out the door he screwed the piece of paper out and shucked it in the bin because he got quite a few wackos coming that would give, you know, strange stories. And he thought, oh, this is too far fetched.
Well, then the news broke several years later about Jimmy Savile, and he realized what that nurse was saying was correct. And he tried to contact her again, but unfortunately she had passed away. And that thing was a big regret that he had in his life, and he said he really felt guilty about that. He said, well, he's asked about a white bitch. At the time, it said it's so outrageous that he said, you know, you get so many cranks come along telling you these outrageous stories like, you know, I was captured by aliens on the number 37 bus and all that sort of stuff. He said that, you know, you you you had to have some meat on the bone. Well, he said she was telling the truth.
And, he used to mess around in the, mortuary, and I won't go into specific details, and he didn't, but I should imagine. But apparently when his mother died, he sat in the same room as her for about a couple of hours and talking to her. So,
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you know, very I heard horrific stories about him in mortuaries. There are horrific stories about him floating around. You I mean, you don't know whether it's just sort of like, you know, garden fenced, you know, Chinese whispers getting amplified. But there's there's definitely something very odd about, a working bloke hanging out with royalty. That, I mean, that that in itself. I'm a working bloke and I never hung out with him. Not that I would accept an invite. You know, and you only have to look at the history of Mountbatten. He was a, you know, a kiddie fiddler. And that's why he deservedly got blown up by the IRS. That's right. Of course, it wasn't reported like that by the BBC. It was devastating terrorist attack. But because the actual news of it is that, you know, he was preying on innocent children as was Ted Heath. So the whole of the the whole of the sort of power structure here is is like that. You know, I heard something else as there was another little interview.
I was I was just scouring a few things yesterday and this sort of popped up. Now I've forgotten the you'd know the name of him. And I've forgotten his name unfortunately. A detective over here has suffered a lot because of his inquiries. He's he's he's well known in this alternative information space and and he's a good interviewer. I know the fella. I know the fella you mean. Yes. I can't think of his name either.
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Oh, I'm just not. We'd hit that a, Jerry. If you've been to him, I I I would know it know it. Yes. We're having a senior moment. You know? Yeah. But whilst we try and think of it, because I'll I'll I'll I'll say the same gag as I said last. I think it was on, the remembrance day. You know, Mount Button, he suffered from dandruff. Why? Because they found his head and shoulders on the beach. Yes. Terrible, innit? That's an awful gag. But, no. I think that's I think that's I believe they're all black malleable by the usury scammers.
And they're that way inclined. Yes. They go into public school, and I'm not saying all public schools are weird, but every person without foul that I worked with that went to public school had psychiatric problems, very severe psychiatric problems, and had to see psychiatrists. So there is something weird about public schools. But again, I'm not saying all public schools. But public school in Great Britain means something different in America. And what it means in this country is like an elite school where the elites send their children. They're very expensive. They're not what they where the average person goes to. But, you've only gotta watch what Sewell says. You know remember that chap Sewell who was an artist?
He's dead now. And Yeah. He said that, you know, homosexuality in public school was all sort of well, it's almost as if you had to do it and was accepted. Most of them were. If they weren't when they went in, they certainly were when they came out.
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Yep. You know? Yeah. So You don't so don't send your son I'm not saying that. If you if you value the quality of your son's spirit, it's not good. Of course, Brian Sewell was one of them, wasn't he? He spoke in that way. Brian Sewell. And he he was the art critic, and he spoke like the in that very affected way. I remember reading something actually from a US, secret agent, a US secret agent. I I can't give you his name, it was an interview, talking about who were the most dangerous people out there. And he talked about this type of English public schoolboy as being one of the most dangerous. And I think he's right. That there's something psychologically they get warped so early on in life. And it may be that they've sort of rolled the similar model out in The States using different, you know, techniques, MK Ultra and all this kind of stuff. There's something that basically turns them strange and they're not connected up properly. I'm not saying that they were born that way, but there's there's definitely something very very dark about power structures. And it's because I suppose they're so mature now in terms of they've been going for hundreds and hundreds of years. They've refined these techniques of breaking people down and controlling them. And it's it's horrific stuff.
And Savile, therefore, you know, led a protected life because he'd been supplying these people with children. And he had a lot of he had a lot of stuff back on them, no doubt. So he, you know, he was, he's not someone that they could just necessarily take out, I assume. I I don't really know. He must have had protection from other areas as well. He was serving other purposes. No doubt the whole thing is is disgusting. But this policeman that I was mentioning, whose name I can't remember, was just talking about this is sick as well. So we'll get all the sickness out here.
He was talking about, people that live on narrow boats in London, on canals and things. Loads of them are pedophiles. And, this it was I what? Yeah. So when I say loads, I don't mean the majority of them. It's just that it's a known sort of lifestyle that they lead. And they have all these sort of signaling systems using model fiction, figures of action men or baby girl dolls to signal what they're into. And it's it's really very scary stuff. So this is a very I think it's that thing that when they have these perversions, they become very skilled at lying like a psychopath would. It's just second nature because they they they realized early on they had to do that, otherwise they'd get beaten to a pulp. But they become so good that they fail to get detected and they move in a certain way. And so Savile, no doubt, was absolutely wrapped up in that. The BBC are involved in covering for him.
Cliff Richard, there's lots of stories about Cliff Richard crying his eyes out because all this, that, and the other, and all sorts of stuff. It links him with the it links him with Lord Boothby, another one of them who was hanging around with the Kraze in the sixteenth century. Yes. Lord Boothby. Yes. It's seedy beyond belief. I mean, and that most of them are sort of, as you said, they're sort of public school boy toffee nosed puffters. You know? It's that's really what happens, and they're dangerous. Yes. And I think Do not be
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ripped. But be that's right. But being ripped away from your mother at an early age, I think that Mhmm. Does something to a person's mind. Because when you look at all these troubled communities, the child is next to the mother all the time until they are a high toddling age, and they're still around their parents. Well, as we were, I mean, we you come over to school and your mom's there, and she's cooking, and she would always there. We weren't actually key kids. But, the, public school boys ex public school boys I work with, one of them told me that as a public school we went to, they had put food out. Now his parents dumped him in a public school, I think, when he was about six or seven, very young Right. Because he lived in Beirut.
They were English, but what they were doing in Beirut was in body's kit, because that is drugs capital or or was it done smiling or something to Beirut. But, anyway, when the store and he said, what do they do? They put, just enough food there or there'd be less one serving. And he said, it's like a scrum to get food, and that is like a survival of the fittest. He said, and they need it really unpleasant so that you would it would toughen you up. All the times you had to take cold baths and things like that, freezing cold in the winter, just to toughen you up.
And that was the been what I suppose in the sixties he was talking about.
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Your Internet connection's finally given up, Eric. In fact, just to let you know, everybody, not only has it given up, it's he's been spontaneously and maybe you're slightly relieved because his signal was getting very, very bad. What should I do? He was spontaneously kicked out of the studio. How about that? So he's currently not present. But not to worry. I'm gonna bumble along a little bit. After the break, which is coming up in about six or seven minutes time, we've got a, couple of songs lined up for tonight as we usually do. We will be joined by Nathan Lucius and possibly one other.
And Nathan's patiently waiting in the side wings in the studio. So I have seen you, Nathan. Don't worry. I'm completely aware of it. But we'll bring you on just after the break, which was the little sort of plan or structure for the show, and maybe Eric will will reappear back in it. Just to get lots of cracking comments, of course, in both Rumble and YouTube chat. Shout out to all of you as usual. Comment here again from Harvey number one. Mountbatten was most likely blown up by his own. IRA bond making skills were largely exaggerated. Well that's an I'd not heard of that, but now that you mention it, maybe that would be a good way.
Maybe he'd become a liability internally and so they do that and then blame the IRA. They would be a good scapegoat. But I hadn't I I'm I'm not really up to speed in all this stuff. It's such a sordid and repellent area. You do feel sort of, downgraded if you spend too much time reading this stuff. I certainly do. It's not that I don't want I'm aware that it goes on. I don't want to become sort of a world expert at it. How it's to be stopped is another question altogether. Obviously they've managed to be able to place themselves in positions which appear to be sort of impervious to public prosecution in so many ways.
And yet I think we have to see this as a common thread. It certainly is a common thread in all these areas. I don't know whether it affects the high level bankers, but it wouldn't surprise me. Wasn't there an interview a few years ago with, I think it was that Dutch banker. I'm sorry that I can't remember their names. Does it matter? You'll be familiar with who I'm referring to. He was a guy that was brought into the highest levels of finance and slowly but surely, he was being invited to certain parties and, informed that if his career was to go any higher he had to get involved in certain rituals. And I think Eyes Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick is not far wider than mark at all.
Of course Kubrick died, I think, before the film was actually fully released. There was a private screening and, it was his last film. And then he, what was it? A very large heart attack. I don't know what physical shape he was in. He was obviously a hardworking man. Very interesting guy, I think, Kubrick for all sorts of reasons. Really a maker of some astonishingly good films. 2,001 of which in my view is not one of them. How about that? I've never really enjoyed 2,001 but that's because I I'm not really a fan of Arthur c Clarke either. Found it all a little bit sort of forced that. But some of his other films are absolutely fantastic.
Brilliant stuff. Great sense of pacing. Still I'm still yet to see Barry Lyndon, which I've been told we've discussed it here before, to get on with that. But, yeah, he came to grief, I think just after the end of that the filming of Eyes Wide Shut. So I think many of the procedures are in there are probably the similar sort of space that people like Saville and all the others that we've mentioned over the last half hour, and there's quite a few unfortunately, have probably been involved with. Probably there's a I would imagine someone's probably drawn a big sort of pie chart or a big sort of flowchart of all these connections between the underworld and, the overworld as it were. And it it I think it's one of the principles in Masonry, it might not necessarily be Masonry but I've certainly read this stuff and maybe some of you have come across this as well, that they seek to control both sides of of life.
So they're involved with the underworld as we now know it, mobsters. They're involved there. And they're also involved in running the courts. And there's a big sort of, I don't know, mutual back scratching business taking place. So, I remember years ago, I've mentioned this before, but when I was undergoing my rapid learning about the true structure of banking in the mid nineties, I remember on several, sort of train journey not train journeys, car car trips around London when when we're going to meetings and stuff like that. Sounds awfully swish. I only did this about three or four times, so it's nothing sort of grandiose. It's not like on Wall Street. It was all kind of humdrum in a way. But, I it was pointed out to me on one occasion, there was a street. And I was informed, by the chap that was teaching me all this stuff that there were dungeons there where the judges go and they, enjoy their s and m sessions or whatever it is that they get up to. This stuff, and it seems to me, must be an offshoot of of their upbringing at the public schools, which is what Eric was just talking about, before he suddenly disappeared. So I think, you know, the whole of the intertwinements there. And this probably explains to a another degree, you know, why the mainstream media being embedded with these sorts of people is literally an untrustworthy source.
There's, I think I might have mentioned it last week as well, it's just reminding me of a few things. You might not have caught it but Liz Truss, I'm just on repetition mode here but these things are worth repeating, she was just interviewed by the Daily Express the other week, about fifteen minutes. It's good. Forget what you might think about Liz Truss, what she says is accurate and true from my from my playbook anyway. And, again she's talking about the nature of of who's managing and really running the nation in that particular way. So, and if they're all involved with this stuff is it any surprise really? Is it any surprise it should not be any surprise that democracy is a futile sort of gesture, you know, voting for these people to get them involved and and do all these sorts of things. Anyway, we're just coming up to the end of the hour here, and I've just been covering it. Eric has, disappeared for a while, he may come back.
After this song which I'm gonna play, we will, Nathan will be joining us in the studio and hopefully won't be having similar sound problems. I think there's quite a there's a lot of it about this, wonky Internet stuff at the moment and, I think it could be might not just be Internet connections. There's all sorts of little things. Anyway, I've got a couple of songs lined up by Van Morrison. We might have played them at some point before over the last couple of years but they're appropriate for tonight. This first one's called Educating Archie, it's about five minutes long so you can put the kettle on or do whatever you want. And after this we'll be back here with Nathan Lucius. Educating Archie this one. How about that?
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You're a slave to the capitalist system, which is ruled by the global elite.
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feel this had with so much propaganda. Entertaining on TV
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Van Morrison there with Educating Archie. So if your name's Archie, that song was specifically for you. And, anyway, here we are. Welcome Welcome back to part two, Paul English Live here on WBN three two five. Our last hour on WBN, as I said, the show rolls on. And, Eric has rejoined us. We also have Nathan Lucius in the studio. So I'll start off with Nathan Hello. Nathan first. Oh, hi, Eric. Hello. Let's see. What do you sound like now? Do you sound lovely? Hello?
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You do? I hope so. I've rebooted the computer, literally, and I've I'm booting it out a window, and it's all come it's all been this it's all deconbobulating. It's all sort of righted itself for some unknown reason. Because as I was in mid sentence, the thing just went off, and that was it. So I'm sorry, folks. Sorry about that, but, that's life. Blame, mister Gates of
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of, what do you call it, micro crap. Sorry, Mike. Well, I think we can get into that a little bit, you're saying. No. I I I think we can blame him for a bit. But, anyway, Nathan's joined us in the studio. Good evening, Nathan. How are you this fair evening? And fingers crossed you're not having the similar sort of sound problems that Eric's been having.
[01:06:55] Unknown:
No. I'm not. But, there there has been a bit of an abusive, abusive bit of, you know, behavior in a close relationship of mine. Well, I mean, you know, there's Eric booting his computer and there's me, accidentally, throwing my phone at walls and stuff, and and it seems to have done the trick this time. It's dead.
[01:07:13] Unknown:
So
[01:07:15] Unknown:
Was that accident. Accident. So, I mean, I'd say I'm I'm, you know, a bit upset about it. I'm not my phone was an asshole. It needed to go. I think I think it just needs to I don't know. I'll have a look at it and see see what we can do about it. But, yeah, it's it's giving up the ghost. What a shame. Anyway, hi.
[01:07:39] Unknown:
Hi. Yeah. We're all very sad about your about your smartphone loss. I am. I'm I'm weeping a little bit here.
[01:07:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It is. It's it's quite tragic. Yeah. Yeah. I'd I'd ask for a funeral, but it doesn't deserve one. I mean, the only thing it does deserve is, is it I don't know, a wood chip or a blender, a good good bonfire maybe. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not fussy.
[01:08:01] Unknown:
I nearly bought a new one myself this week, but I managed to resist. Viking funeral. What about that?
[01:08:08] Unknown:
A Viking funeral. Yeah. Stick it on a boat and blow it anyway. Why not give it a Viking funeral? That's the best.
[01:08:13] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:08:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I do look like a Viking at the minute. So, you know, this I think that'd be very appropriate. Unfortunately, it's probably it's probably gonna mean I'm gonna have to buy a new one at some point, you know.
[01:08:24] Unknown:
Why do you look like a Viking? Why are you looking like a Viking? What's going on? You got a battle axe in one hand, or you've been growing your hair long and you're covered in woad possibly like a sort of picked Nothing nothing so excited. I mean, the hair's quite long anyway, so you know.
[01:08:38] Unknown:
No. It's Bloody heavy. Plus plus, just before I came on, I managed to have a a a massive, I say my brain's not working. I'm gonna have brain fog for the first half an hour of this because because I've just had a hypoglycemic fit because of low blood sugar. So now my head's going, ah. So if I if I need to go down and get some sugar at some point, I'll be fine, I'm sure. There we go. This is extremely
[01:09:01] Unknown:
untoward. Yeah. This is pretty untoward. This is completely wrong. I have to make sure I send plenty of sugar up to you the day before when we have you on the next time. I can't get any sugar to you fast enough right now, so I'm glad you've got your own supply at hand. Yeah. Actually, I was just a few sweets. I don't know if that counts, but you know, there's a few sugary sweets, so we'll just have them for now. Yeah. I was speaking to Eli who's on here every few weeks, the other day and, just organizing something for him. He was telling me that he just had his first attack ever of vertigo and it had lasted all day. Oh. And I did yeah. And I said, I said, I don't know if you can remember but you have had a quintuple heart bypass. And he went, oh, yes. I have. I said, yeah. Yeah. That's probably got something to do with it. I said, I'm not a medical expert but, you know, there's quite a bit gone on with you and that's within the last year. So anyway, he seemed quite jolly. Apparently, the following day he was not so bad but, yes, I get that. So I mean, I've now hit the age. I don't know if you've got it, Eric. If I get out of bed too fast, I just I go, woah. Hang on. Sit back down before you stand up. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My blood pressure level's too low. I'm so chilled and relaxed as I sleep that if I sort of leap out of bed with a eureka moment, I sometimes go, bloody hell, I better just lie down. I'm going, yes. Life's showing I'm not 16 anymore. It's a bit irritating because you as a bloke, you you keep thinking that you are right up to the very end. Yes.
Whatever that might be. But did you did you hear about, Keir
[01:10:31] Unknown:
Starmer? He's actually had a yeah. Sorry.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
No. No. Carry on. You started now. What is it what is it, the mastermind you've started so you you can finish? No. You've started two minutes. You've got to finish.
[01:10:42] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Keir Starmer,
[01:10:44] Unknown:
had a brain transplant and it rejected him. Sorry. It's terrible. It rejected him. I think that's what he looks like, is if he's had a brain transplant. That's rejected that's rejected him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he does look permanently stunned. I mean, there is that. Not stunning, but he does look permanently stunned. The thing is the thing is the problem the problem with what you've just said there, Chris, is that I find it does it does have a brain. Unfortunately, it's working for the wrong side, and it's working a little bit too efficiently, but not efficiently enough that people can't see through as bullshit. So, you know, there's that. It's it that's a good thing, innit?
[01:11:13] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:11:14] Unknown:
Oh, I think I'm a bit of an echo. I don't know whether that's coming through badly or
[01:11:18] Unknown:
No. No. We're all fine. The sound's actually not too bad right now. I never know quite what we're gonna get these days. It's still to do with media because the computer now has become our sort of media tool, hasn't it really? But Yeah. This Windows lock thing, it's getting out of hand really. I haven't moaned about it for years because, I should imagine possibly like many listeners here, I use Windows 10. People may be using some other version of Windows. And it wasn't by necessarily because I love Microsoft. That's got nothing to do with it. It was simply that the audio tools, as you can tell from today's outstanding audio quality, but no. The audio tools, the audio tools that we were looking for, I could only really find them on on Windows. So it kinda works, but, Windows 11 Windows 10 now is out of its security
[01:12:21] Unknown:
updating. And I'm wondering,
[01:12:22] Unknown:
Eric, that if you're using Windows 10, they may be running all sorts of things to make you think that you need to go to Windows 11. I wouldn't put anything past them at all. It's like soft irritations drive you crazy, and they know it. And it's you know, that's their model is that they get you in with lots of freebies, and then they start to nudge you over to something else. And, Windows 11, the more I look at it, the more unpalatable it is. I mean, that that you have to subscribe to certain things. You need a Microsoft account to install it. Maybe you have to use it each time when you log in. Maybe not. I don't know. But this whole sort of invasive, it's our computer and we're letting you use it even though you paid for it doesn't sit right with me. I'm I'm I'm not particularly happy or pleased about it. So I mean yeah. Well And I think that sorry. Yeah. Please. Well, I'm I I think sorry. I I sorry. I I chatted you. But,
[01:13:17] Unknown:
no. What I was gonna say, I'm I'm going to I'm thinking I seriously think they're going over it back to, Linux. It's bloody brilliant and dual boot into Linux because you won't get any of these problems with Linux. It just goes. It either goes or it doesn't go, and that's it. So, I'm a bit of a Linux enthusiast. So, that's my that's my 10p. Well, sorry about that. I didn't mean to chime in.
[01:13:40] Unknown:
Well, all I can say about Windows is that at the minute, I mean, I'm quite a fan of Windows 10. I'm on I'm on 11. I've I've been on Windows 11 for a while, but it is this it's a hell of a lot more efficient than it was many years ago with, like, XP and, like, Windows 98 and stuff like that. It runs one hell of a lot better. Even Windows seven, it runs better than that. The unfortunate part is you've got that you don't own the product, you license it, you're paying for a license to use it. As part of that license they get to advertise and dictate what you do on it and if you, you know, if you if you take it too far they'll basically just revoke your license and then you're gonna be useless PC that that doesn't really operate anything.
[01:14:24] Unknown:
This is true. This is true. Well, I I don't know what everybody else out there is using. Not that we need to know. This is not a market research program. I'm not really too fussed. I know that there's quite a lot of Mac users out there. The Macintosh, of course, is sublime in many ways, but I have the same sort of ideological problem with it, which is that you get hoovered into their workspace. It's very good for sound and things like this. But, also I think the thing is when you've been using these things for a long time, you you get habituated to a certain type of workflow. And I'm really aware of how easy it is to disrupt me. I'm very easily disrupted in terms of workflow, if I've got to learn all this new stuff. Anyway, I've been sort of taking a lot of deep breaths this week, looking at using some version of Ubuntu, which is a a flight a flavor of Linux.
And it looks as though, with a a bit of bailing wire, glue, and string, I might be able to get it to do pretty much what what I've got my machine to do right now. But I think the only option is I'm gonna have to run both. So it may well be that, you know, continuing in the audio space I'm gonna have to carry on using Windows, just purely for shows to be quite honest and so sort of sound mix. So that's what I'm planning to do. It's I used it. I used to, I run Linux for about three years up to about 2015, I think it was. So it's it's the last ten years I went back to Windows, but I never forgot, Linux is kind of bulletproof in a way. A very interesting, video I saw that, I mean, any of you I don't know if you guys are involved in setting up virtual private servers and things like this. I am. I do that kind of stuff.
Because the whole of the Internet basically runs on Linux. But that's just the truth of it. The the entire server network, the big sort of ports of call that are sending all the packets around and all these big data centers, they don't use Windows and pay a license for it. Who who would do that? They use Linux. And Linux actually has more developers working on it than Microsoft does because the worldwide open source community is colossal. My main it's not a gripe with Linux because that's like saying I've got a gripe with all these thousands and thousands of developers. They're all boffins by the by the man in the street standard. They're boffins. Right? They don't realize that they are. If you go into any of these sites, they're all writing in code language and go, oh, yeah. You do this, and then you use Java for this. No. And I'm going, look, I could spend three months of my life understanding what you're saying, but I don't want to. It's not a good use of my time. And there's, a gap for a kind of really user friendly, really simplified user friendly sort of Linux version. No doubt they will tell me that Ubuntu is it and it probably is,
[01:17:08] Unknown:
but people have still got to get used to a thing using sort of terminal commands and they'll be able to sort of me off it. No. No. That's why I've never used it because it's like if if you're going in, you've never used it before and you've got nobody else who can talk you through it, you're basically up against an operating system that you can't really utilize. So that's why I've never installed it because I just don't know enough about it, and I don't know anyone who can take me through it. So it's it's a different Well, it'll probably be me. I'll probably take you through it if you get if in a couple of months when I've done it. I'm planning to be on this by January.
[01:17:38] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not in any rush with these things anymore. It's not like I've got to do it yesterday. My main problem is back is moving all my files over to somewhere else. Sorry. We've gone a bit technical here. This is a bit tedious. You've all got to face this in here. But I've got so much sort of audio files and books particularly. My main gripe is that I've got nearly all my books using Kindle, and Kindle don't run on Linux. I'm going, oh, no. Because I I actually even though Kindle is an Amazon product, it's bloody good because I can put notes in it and cross reference them and stuff like that. And as I get nerdier with regards to sort of cross referencing information as I get older, It's very, very useful. Saves me an awful lot of time. So there's probably an alternative, but I'm thinking, oh, I've got to change.
And it's the it's the changeover thing. We don't like it. Yeah. I don't like change when what I've got is working. But, yeah. No. It's actually not that difficult. It's not that difficult. I'll tell you, one of the cool things about it is the the way that the apps update, it's it's almost seamless on Linux and it works. And you don't get bombarded with security checks because you don't need them Because nobody can write stuff really effectively to hack into Linux desktops. It's way more of a challenge. That's why you don't need all this sort of gubbins and this sort of protection culture. Oh, you need this and you need that on Windows, don't you? You gotta protect against this and we're protecting you against that. And you're thinking, why don't you just write an operating system that does it automatically? That that covers it. Why am I having to work so hard to get the value out of this thing? So, but Windows 10 is good. I'll give it to you. It's been very good. It's been it's certainly been the best iteration of it that I've used.
I started off on Macintoshes actually in the nineteen eighties. That's how ancient I am. And, that was always pretty cool was Macintosh. But I, as I said, it's a closed sort of ecosystem and I don't go for that kind of thing. But there we go. I mean, I'll I'll give Windows eleven one thing. I mean, Windows 10 as well. They're both efficient. They both work quickly.
[01:19:35] Unknown:
But again, what are you given in exchange for that? Because it was quite a massive, like an upgrade from from Windows seven that that was a bit glitchy and, you know, programs crashed on it frequently and then you get Windows ten eleven everything just seems to work seamlessly. But again what what are you really giving them for that? I mean you're the product if it's free you're the product and both Windows ten and eleven were free. The other thing is you just mentioned there about viruses and things like that. I'm absolutely convinced that the viruses are done by the operators like so for example, you know Of course they are. Exactly. Because why why would they release a product that was so, corruptible and and had no integrity other than to sell you extra stuff that you needed to install on your system that then scans your files for your security and protection. So then scans your files and then and you've given them everything because of you know you want to keep it all safe. You've given it to them. Yep. And you've paid for them. Completely in agreement on that. It's the great protection racket. It's it's a very sophisticated protection racket. Yeah. Use this, and then it goes wrong. Have you noticed as well,
[01:20:44] Unknown:
by the way, there's a a comment from Warren here says, you will regret this is he's wagging the finger at you, Nathan. Right? You will regret Windows 11. I'm I'm kind of in I'm tacitly in agreement with Warren. I don't want you to have any regrets, but I know what he means. He said, especially when you hear what Rob Braxman yeah. Well, we all know Rob. I don't know Rob Braxman, Warren, but thank you for pointing him out. Has to say about it. He's the, Microsoft software expert, and he is angry. I've seen a lot of these things. I've been spending a couple of days. You know, everybody's going people are switching to Linux in huge numbers, and they are at the moment because of this Windows 11. I think it's this thing that you get sucked into their subscription base and they're they're just going, leave me alone, you know. So, and I'll tell you, although setting up VPSs is if you don't know anything about it This is the thing, when you go to the sort of sites that are guiding you, you go, well you write this and you do that and I'm going, woah stop I don't even know what you're referring to. It takes ages to work it. When you've worked it out you go, oh it's logical now that I understand the shorthand that you're using in your communications.
But it's not that obvious. That said, there are so many brilliant instructional videos on Linux and other things on YouTube, that they can guide you through it. But you've got to basically say, oh, no. I'm gonna have to it's a bit like changing your underwear. You know, bugs don't wanna do that. Right? No. No. No. Do we do anything that wants to waste? Idea. Or is it is it is it something that's enough for anybody, you know. There's no need to go crazy with all that hijinks. Hey. That's right. That's why.
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Yes. And do you know what they call underpants in in Australia? Crusties. So no date Oh, yeah. I got me crusties, mate. Yeah. That's that's you're down under. Oh. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true
[01:22:31] Unknown:
that's
[01:22:32] Unknown:
down under. Yeah. I refer to things down under. Exactly. There you go. Yeah. Anyway I've got I've got brain fog. I've got I've got a massive excuse here. I've just done a massive hypo. I've had a crap day. I've killed my phone. I think I'm allowed to do a few crap jokes.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
There was a point in there as well. Eric never asked to ask for permission. We get them all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. We get them all the time. I I mentioned in the first Especially constipated Vic a joke. Yes. But that's a bit too early. I don't think you've got a Yeah. Permission to tell that one again Yes. Just yet. You're gonna have to wait a few more weeks. I'm gonna get constipated. We were obviously in the first hour, slight technical audio of things aside, we were talking obviously about the mainstream media, George Orwell, Newspeak. Well, I didn't even mention Newspeak, but this whole thing about the hijacking the control of media.
And, of course, the BBC event really illustrates it really rather well. And actually, that was rather fortunate because the show image, for today's show was prepped about four weeks ago. I sort of did them in a batch. So I just got lucky really that this event had happened. Anyway, I mentioned that there was communication about this a long time ago in the early days of the press, relatively early, round about 1880. So for all of those of you who are around in '80, no doubt you will remember this, but there's a gentleman called John Swinton. Lived and worked most of his life in Canada and then, America, But he was born in Scotland, stayed in Scotland for a few years of his life and then his family and his father took them out to Canada at first and he ended up in newspapers in America, initially in Mississippi and places like this. Obviously, a bright and capable fellow.
But there was a gathering at the New York Press Club around about 1880, I think, probably 1880. And I'm gonna read everything that he wrote that he said in this speech because you may well have heard it, but it's just good to hear again. It's only five paragraphs. It's relatively brief. This is what he said. So he's addressing a lot of journalists there, in, I guess, the heyday of newspapers. Newspapers would be a big deal then. This is still pre radio, and they're a big deal and getting bigger, of course, with each passing year. He said this to them. He said, he was the president, I believe, of the press club as well at the time, a very senior position. He says, there is no such thing at this date of the world's history in America, you can equally apply that to England, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions. And if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.
I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper before twenty four hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it. And what folly is this, toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance.
Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes. Gentlemen, has anything changed, do you think, since eighteen eighty?
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Yeah. Technology. That's about it, though. That's about it. I mean, when did all this start? I mean, you've gotta really ask this, haven't you? I mean, they've they've they've effectively what what that's saying is that they've had this controlled before its inception. They've had they've had the newspapers controlled since they were newspapers. They've had radio stations controlled before the radio came along. They've got the internet controlled many years before they released that to the public. So yeah, I mean, you know, how long have they been planning this? Long long time I think.
[01:26:56] Unknown:
A while. A while. I mean, I think if you look at, say, the control of, the Bible, which we were talking about a few weeks ago, because it's all about information. It doesn't matter that it's necessarily about that, but it's an illustrative thing that was a very powerful force in people's lives, you know, organized religion. And they did everything that they could to ensure that the public were incapable of reading it directly.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
That was, you know, May. I remember this discussion that we had as well. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the idea, wasn't it? They keep it in Latin then you've got to rely on your preachers and your pulpit, to to basically inform you as to what's in there. You can cherry pick all the bits that apply to you. If you've got an author authoritarian regime, which you always do, they can then direct which bits you want your your congregation to hear so that that can then, you know, control behavior, control society, and they've done it very well. They've, it's almost like they've planned it.
[01:27:48] Unknown:
They have. And I think, you know, if we come up plan will it, but Well, they have planned it, obviously. I mean, I think it's an instinctive thing really about controlling, you know, what would they call us? The herd or whatever. I don't mind what they call us. It doesn't really matter. I'm not gonna get upset. They've got to call us something.
[01:28:02] Unknown:
Yeah. The, you know, the pigs in the field. Okay. Whatever. I don't really mind if I am angry at you. Matter what they call us because it only it only matters if we're offended by it. I really couldn't give a damn anymore. You can call me what you like. You know, how about it? I've been called worse probably. So, you know, alright. Call me cattle if you like. I'll call you a parasite and return. How about that? You know, the the the authorities. The the those they're all not to be. That's all I'm referring to just so there's no
[01:28:27] Unknown:
Well, I was I mean, I thought that Swinton's thing as well, of course, is directly applicable to what's happened here at the BBC in that the main editor in chief has lied and has undermined everything and has and hasn't allowed any honest opinions in, you know, at all with regards to that, and has ended up paying this price as he rightly should have done. I mean, you know, I I would love do you think the BBC now they often make documentaries about real events in the news later on? Steady. Do you think they'll make one about what happened in the cutting floor room when they were editing all those clips to make Trump look like an even bigger buffoon? I'm sorry if I've offended anybody, but, my disposition is that I don't trust any politician at all. Right? Not one.
And, but they they've gone they've gone out of their way to, to I mean, it would be an amazing documentary. Well, we clip this a little bit. Oh, no. Don't put that in there, Nigel. This is terrible. What we do is we cut it here. There you go. We've got him saying this. I mean, literally. And, of course, I I think it's so valuable because the question that probably many people are not asking sufficiently often is, well, if they did that then, have they done it before? Mhmm. And and how often have they done it? And have they been doing this sort of thing for a long time? Yes.
Do you not think that they might have this might have occurred to someone like, say, Sefta Delma in the nineteen forties and whoever his forerunners were? And, you know, Edward Bernays and John Swinton pointing it out in 1880. How do you know if you have such a thing as an honest journalist and it's very difficult to know you're gonna get any, all of these sort of power structures, government, banking, the law, the media are infected with the same sort of, organized organizational dysfunction and corruption. None of them are free to really communicate as if they were with us here around in the pub, in the virtual audio pub having a chat. They can't do it. They never do it. It's it's absolutely preposterous. If a population is supposed to receive information through its media,
[01:30:37] Unknown:
can you rely on any of it? Well, I mean, to be fair, they are they are giving the population information. It doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's false. I mean, this is the, you know, the it's very clever the way they do it. I mean, you can't just feed you lies because they get sussed very quickly so they've got to give you I reckon about 70% fact or 70% truth and then and then they can they can insert their lies and deception and propaganda a hell of a lot easier because then it's harder to suss the the bad information from the good information which you know it's, but but it's for the BBC. I I can't watch it. I just can't watch it anymore. It's their authoritarian tone that just drives me up the wall. Can't do it. Nor can I?
[01:31:16] Unknown:
I can. I can do it. Are you ready? Here we go. Oh my god, Will. This is the voice of the BBC. You can trust me. That's all you have to do. Well, is that it? At home. It's good, isn't it? Hello. London calling. Hello. We're coming to you from Crystal Palace. I've just been to see the kid. You're enjoying the lockdown. And here's the truth. An appeal. Honest. Yeah.
[01:31:35] Unknown:
Hello, Chris.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
Oh, we lost him. Eric, have you have you disappeared? No. I was gonna say I got an appeal.
[01:31:43] Unknown:
I'm still here. Yes. I'm still here. Yes. I I I can you hear me? Now what I'm gonna appeal Yes. What during the lockdown, you know, when they had those you you know, when they had those marches, a fellow was interviewed and he said in 1947, there was a meeting between the government and the BBC in which they said that the propaganda that they put out during World War two was so good, we need to continue this on into future you know, in the future. And it's all agreed. Now I've looked the Internet up, and I can't find it anywhere, this particular meeting in a certain place. Does anybody know anything more about this? Because I've been looking all over the place for it. Because I want it in black and white. You You know, I want the meat on the bone because I can mention it, but someone says, well, show me the evidence, and I can't show the evidence. So it must have been a meeting somewhere, and this chap said he's done all his research into it. Anybody know of it at all? I don't know. They'll have scrubbed it, mate. I mean, what you've got now is a digital book burning platform,
[01:32:44] Unknown:
you? So they'll have they'll have scrubbed it from the Internet. It will be deliberate because they don't want you knowing certain things. And if they can subtly remove things and eventually you're gonna start second guessing yourself thinking, oh, well, maybe I didn't see it. Maybe it was, you know, from, I don't know, watched a film where it was or that you know somebody's mentioned it to me in the past I mean it's very clever.
[01:33:05] Unknown:
Yes it is. It certainly rings a bell Eric I can't tell you either maybe even though we might not get an answer this evening if there's any enterprising listener out there on WBN or, YouTube or, Rumble who's listening to the show and they know of this or have got the yen and urge to go and find out, Send me the information, and this is something I meant to announce earlier on. There's a contact email address now for this show. I don't and it's actually, published on my one page website, which I'm slowly we're probably gonna enhance it a little bit. I've never had much time up until recently to start looking at these things.
But if you send an email into studio@paulenglishlive.com, studio@paulenglishlive.com, On anything, really, I'll get the email in. Don't start trying to sell me pills and stuff.
[01:33:56] Unknown:
I've I've already taken it out. To be fair, you've got the nicotine to sell back to them. So if they start selling you pills, you just say, right, well, I've got I've got one for you as well. I have have some of these.
[01:34:05] Unknown:
I do. Yeah. We've all we can all sell each other our own stuff, can't we? And I'll be very, very happy. But no. If there's anything, you know, pointers or stuff like that, get going. I will I'll seek to reply, you know, as quickly as I can. It doesn't mean necessarily the moment it comes in, but I will get back to most people unless I get completely overloaded, in which case I'll announce it here. But you can send information in and request and that kind of stuff, suggestions for the show, anything like that, you know, when we're not on air, because when we're on air, we're having too much fun, aren't we? We can't always pay attention to these things. Paul, I've got a question for you. I mean, in fact, it's more of a request. So right. Unfortunately,
[01:34:41] Unknown:
and it's a guilty confession. I will I will fess up to this one. I am absolutely terrible answering emails, and I feel I feel quite guilty about it. So what I'm reckoning is now that you've just made that announcement, we should link emails, and you should answer all mine for me as well. I wouldn't even pay for that. I wouldn't even send you a tenner a month to do that because my email skills and replying is terrible.
[01:35:01] Unknown:
Well, I I I can't begin to tell you how excited I am by that invitation. And, of course, it's very rude it's very rude to to turn down an invitation, particularly when it's live and on air. Exactly. Millions of people are listening. But for now, you'll have to maybe think think about it a little bit. Well, if that was an offer you couldn't refuse and clearly, you know, and now that you need to think about it, I mean, I feel I feel a bit betrayed by this.
[01:35:25] Unknown:
As as I'm sure my people that email me feel betrayed by me, which is I I do apologize to them though to be fair. I do know when you set up them eventually.
[01:35:33] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Well well not Well you know when you set up a new email account? When you set up a new one and and and it's great where there's no cluster in there and then suddenly spam starts coming in and you it's not the fact, you know, I get people moaning, stop sending me this stuff, it's spam. I'm going, don't you have a spam filter? I mean, I've I've got so many email accounts on Gmail, Yahoo, and everywhere. But I'm they worry me. They really do worry me. And but it's been very useful to sort of make use of them. If you think about the free email stuff that came along, it was about 2004, wasn't it? Early two thousand. They had Hotmail, then that got bought out and all this kind of stuff. They were absolutely amazing when they first came out. They were brilliant. Really, really useful. And of course little were we to know that they were gonna then effectively, like you said, you know, if it's free, then you are the product. And of course, this is where Windows 11 has ended up, I would suggest. It's it's taken a major step in that direction, which is why it's it's very distasteful. And, it's worth acting on it now if you've got that feeling because habit and convenience undo most of our good intentions. Oh, I can't be bothered. That thing. I mean, you just get worn out with all these fiddly little things that you've got to do, and they are irritating beyond belief. But, for now, Nathan, I'm gonna politely turn down your information to answer your emails.
You know, unless there's a pound to be my secretary, it's fine. Reply, in which case, I'll answer a thousand a day if you like. You know? So Okay.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
I was gonna say, you know, if anyone wants to be my secretary, I'm quite happy to do that, but you're gonna get paid about a tenner a month if that. So, you know,
[01:37:04] Unknown:
Well, I'd love one. Wouldn't you love one? You know, I remember when I was Yes. I love the idea that I'm driving the whole thing myself. You read about these authors and and and and people that had a bit of money back in the thirties and forties and fifties who are writers and stuff. And they've got, you know, so and so as they're secretary handling all that. And I'm going now I'm thinking, that would be so cool. That would be great, you know. But that that means I'd have to have an office, and I'd have to have a waistcoat to put on to go to the office and everything. And, you know, the little lady she didn't have to be little. She'd be huge, really. But the lady that that's in charge of the typing pool, I love the idea of typing pools and all that kind of stuff. But then I am a bit strange. I'm getting stranger as the days go by.
[01:37:45] Unknown:
But, You know what you're saying though? Something's just come to mind. If you need an office, and as Chris is now part of this this enterprise, you could call them fuck them offices. There you go. I mean, getting hall offices. Do that. Yeah.
[01:38:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck them hall and fuck them offices. You know? I mean, what more could you ask for? Fockham Fockham offices. That's that's a good one, ain't it? Yes. Oh, by the way, someone's called Billy Silver. Ramsey said, didn't Dave so David Irving covered that, didn't he, Eric? What what what was the last comment? About?
[01:38:20] Unknown:
You said Rumble and YouTube.
[01:38:22] Unknown:
They're in Rumble and YouTube. Well, I've got rumble. To be fair, I'm not even following the rumble comments. So if anyone's said anything to me, I do apologize. I haven't been following it. But They've been saying some terrible things about you, but I'm such a good host. I don't wanna repeat them all. Oh, no. Tell me. Hey. At this point, I'm just gonna be entertained by it. I really don't care. You know? It's just I've I've given up all shits.
[01:38:40] Unknown:
Oh, now look. I tell you what, there's a really good one come through right now because I think I might have found a secretary either for me or you, Eric, because Aunt Sally writes, that was my job. Yes. I was a secretary. I bet a jolly good one when you weren't taking a bath Woah. Aunt Sally. Aunt Sally?
[01:39:02] Unknown:
Would would you like to take down my particulars? Would you like to see my dick pic?
[01:39:07] Unknown:
Sorry. No. But Chris, this is not carry on radio. Not just No. I was dick anyway.
[01:39:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm gonna I'm gonna borrow it. Dick to phone. Alright, Chris. Alright. Hold on. To to talk to him, isn't it? Yes. Well Yeah. There's there's no need for that. Look. Just because I broke my phone, there's no need to say that I've been a dick to my phone. Alright. Just there's no need for it. I'm completely do you know what? In the break, I'm going for a whiskey, and I'll probably I'll probably get a little bit more mature and sensible or something like that, maybe.
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Well, yeah. But that that's a perfectly, thing because in the nineteen sixties and seventies, gentlemen in their offices did have dictaphones. They they they used to press a button and record,
[01:39:46] Unknown:
a letter for the secretary to type, and it's called a dictaphone. So what's wrong with that? I don't know. Pete was trying to sort of referee a mature conversation this evening, gentlemen, but I can see it's really got way out of hand, doesn't it? It didn't take long. I I went into a dressmaker's shop.
[01:40:02] Unknown:
People get the wrong end of the stick. I went into a dressmaker shop the other day and I said, Scooby, can you tell me where I can get felt? The woman slapped me around the face. Why? I mean, you know, it's a perfectly ordinary question, isn't it? You know? It's because you're a toxic white folk, and you've got the feminists making all the dresses. You've what? You've done it now, Chris.
[01:40:20] Unknown:
Just just tell them just tell them you're white. I've got away overnight.
[01:40:27] Unknown:
That's a good idea, ain't it? Not a pretty sight though.
[01:40:31] Unknown:
I don't know. A woman in a dress with a beard? She Oh, yeah. Seem worse.
[01:40:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I think, I think I think, Eric, actually appointing Aunt Sally as, as the head of the Fockham typing pool would be a good thing. You can put it on the letterhead. That'd be good. Yep. That's good. I mean, I I know I've mentioned it before. I think logistic is never gonna happen. This is just sort of you can tell you're of a certain age when you start thinking about things that are really quite wonky that you would never get excited about when you're young. But the idea of actually having an office and working from it and doing the show from an office studio with us all in it, it'll never happen because we're all over the place Well, not. Would be extremely appealing. I mean, I know people that do do that, and I think it's really it's quite a good thing.
So I would I would love to do that sort of thing. It would be fantastic. I think it would actually, improve things. Not that this could be improved much above what it is. No, it could. It always can be. And I think, it would be it would be a jolly good thing. I mean, I mentioned that Liz Truss thing and one of the things she said in it, this is nothing genius or anything, she said, you know, the mainstream press is losing ground, which it is, but we do need a stronger alternative media. And we do. And, if we were able to get more organized and actually we are able to do it, it's sloths, indifference or or having to go and do other things that gets in the way.
I'm not working as effectively as I know I can, but I'm working more effectively than I was five months ago. I know that. That's starting to happen and I'm very pleased about it. But, we do have resources that previous generations have never had. And I I think we can still make a great deal more use of them. I mean, I've you know, the idea of a physical newspaper is very attractive. And then I start I send back and look at it and go, yeah. But it's it's extremely expensive. You've got to look at what you can add up. Because I think if there were, and I think it this is an English disease, and I don't know whether you feel this way, but it's almost as if we're extremely backwards about coming forwards to get finance going to develop things.
[01:42:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Because we've been we've been made to be too polite about it. I mean, whenever I try and if we have that, I feel guilty about it. Can I can I just backtrack a little bit? Right. So I've missed this You can. Unusual case. The whole Liz Truss thing, telling us that we need a stronger alternative media was two things: what does she mean by that? And secondly, how how can you do that when we're under such heavy censorship and we don't say anything for actual fear of being arrested in The UK for for simply saying things that somebody might find offensive or go against the government. So what is what does she mean by that and how are we supposed to do that?
[01:43:13] Unknown:
Ah, well, I don't know. I'm not looking to her for leadership. I'm just mentioning that she mentioned it. That's all. It must I've probably mentioned it too much. People probably think I'm a fan now. That's not what I'm saying. Obsessed it up. I I well, you know, I don't I don't mind. I mean, there are people that I don't necessarily like, but if they say the truth or it co it's sort of like their footprint of truth overlaps with mine, I pay attention to it. I think it's useful. She's likely to get much bigger platforms than we are. The fact that she's actually being verbally abused ever since, her very short tenure as PM is actually now looking good. It's actually a positive, I think, because it indicates that whatever she was doing really did put a cat amongst the pigeons with the very people that do run and manage all these organizations.
And she's not backwards about coming forward to let you know who they are. And this I think think that this is the this is an approach that I find at this moment in time very appealing. I mean, seven or eight years ago when we're when I was doing radio stuff, say, with Andy Hitchcock, we would plow into the whole of the World War two thing in terms of the Jewish issue, the history of that, in great detail. And it was at the time, and could be again extremely satisfying to actually go over these things because we were talking about stuff that that really huge numbers of people weren't aware of. However, I have noted, this is not rocket science either, you introduce you take those sorts of topics into a normal situation, you won't get very far.
But if you look at the soft approach, I think there's tremendous amount of attraction with what I call a softer approach to this. And, there are some very articulate people coming through. And by articulate, I don't mean overly complicated. I mean people are getting their points across really well. I think I played that clip from Robin Pickett the other week. And if you haven't seen the thirty seven minute inter full interview with him, again, by way of promotion in this show, I would suggest you get to it on YouTube. Robin Pickett, it's about thirty seven minutes long. It's filmed outside the Houses of Parliament on an evening relatively recently, and what he says is tremendous stuff. It's because what it's doing is it's acting as that kind of wearing down of the idiocy of the other side. And we do it best by quiet civilized speech better than any other method. And if there's one thing that we're supposed to be noted for as English people is that we can take that calmer approach. Put the kettle on, have a cup of tea, calm down, be thoughtful, and start to speak clearly about things. It's way, way better than banging the lectern. It doesn't work on our people. It it doesn't work. We don't respond to that at all.
But We can't get strident. You know you I agree. Alex Jones would never have made it here. I've tried it and it hasn't done. It doesn't work. It does not work. You're right. It's not our way. You're you're right. And I think
[01:46:17] Unknown:
yeah. But I think there's a need for satire. Badly need bad need for satire because the old things like private eye and all that, they they're gone. They're they're part of the establishment. And when you look at the light, it's a very good newspaper. Yes. But there's nothing to cheer people up. And wars are fought and won in the minds of people. And we've got to be positive, and we've got to be happy, and we've got to laugh at those in control and keep on laughing as our greatest weapon. I agree. I agree with you, mate. The trouble is what?
[01:46:49] Unknown:
Yeah. That's alright. Carry on. I'll I'll add something to it when you finish. Yeah.
[01:46:53] Unknown:
Well, I was gonna say is, I mean, I did the Fockem Hall Times, and I did the whole lot myself, 16 pages. And believe me, it's exhausting. And what I found I mean, you can download it. You can you can just download it free. It's it's on my, website, fulcrumhallradio.com. But the thing is is that you say, have a laugh, you write something about Keir Starmer. Now he might be history in a couple of weeks' time if he's somebody else takes over the hell. And it's surprising how quickly a current news goes down. Who remembers, Sunak and people like that? They've gone. They're history.
And this is the problem when writing satire. It's gotta be something that will stand a test of time in a way, and this is the problem I can't Spitting image esque.
[01:47:43] Unknown:
Something like spitting image or, yeah, something that can that can, you know, take the piss but do it tastefully kind of, but, you know, you're right. Again, it's it's if we don't listen, the thing is if we don't stay, you know positive enough to to to get through the day what use are we anyway I mean if we're just going to get bogged down by the by this what we're hearing there's no point doomscrolling things like that if it's going to get on top of you you're not good to anybody but but equally where the media is concerned even in even in the alternative media I think there's a hell of a lot of gatekeepers there which which I think are just siphoning us and funneling us back into a mainstream narrative just through just different mediums and platforms. I mean that's all they're doing. I mean again not that I listen to them, but take Russell Brand.
You know, I'll give you an example. Right. About eight years ago, whenever I'd tune into YouTube to watch anything on, you know, conspiracy related or, you know, take your pick, If I left autoplay on, even though I'd never subscribe to either of these, it would either autoplay to BBC or it'd autoplay to Russell Brand, right, and neither of those I would ever listen to. I would never choose to listen to either of them. So I've had to take autoplay off on YouTube for that reason. And again, so so why was it why was it also playing on Russell Brand, I wonder?
[01:48:56] Unknown:
Well, because he's a reformed character now, Nathan. We've been told. Totally. Yeah. I believe that. He's a he he's he's a changed chap. He's part of it. I mean, if he goes I I I think I now that I listen to it, I caught one of his live feeds inadvertently when I was doing something on Rumble the other day. He was live. And there are 18 and a half thousand people on his channel. So it's this thing about once you've got, you know, what tactics do you take? You could say to some degree, I've come in the wrong way. I don't view it that like that. I didn't have any choice and I don't even mind. I've not it's not about regrets. If you if you're sort of really tunneling into very rarefied, almost esoteric information, which I believe many of us need to do that, you need to do it maybe as a personal compulsion, but it also needs to be done. You have to have a sort of people who go, yeah, primarily I do a lot of research because I'm suited for it and I think I can once I've got it, I might be able to take it and communicate it in the pub.
This is the way this is my you know, to the layman. I can get it into layman's terms. This is the and get it over. There's a great requirement for doing that. But what they've done is they've just created a huge audience based on the outrageous nature of their history or whatever. And then and then you could say, well, once I've got that audience, then I could start to nudge it in the direction that I want. But there's a the danger with that is that that rarely happens. I think because once you've actually got a major presence, you do either directly or indirectly come under the influence of those agencies that don't want you to talk about certain things because they perceive that you've got a large audience and they don't want you nudging them in certain directions.
And I think this is why, sorry to mention Truss again, but the mere fact that she's pointed out that Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, is a globalist and so is everybody else that owns and runs and is on the board of directors and the shareholders of the Bank of England is a major thing. I and I think it's major because it's still her interview is not getting that much play either. It's a major thing and you know that a major penny for us to get to drop with more and more people, and it is happening anyway, but you you know it everybody that assists with this is doing good work, is people have to get, I believe, that there is this force of play that's actually running your country. And the conclusion from that, for me, is you must not participate in democracy in its current condition. I'm not saying not forever. I don't know how it might change. Can we define democracy? I mean, how how would you define democracy?
The delusion that your vote is actually going to improve the management of your nation. That's what I would view it as. It's it's a it's a self enslaving deceit that you put upon yourself. Oh, I did my bit. I voted. I want this party in and not that party in. But, you know, the next stepping back is, but it but sir, madam, it is irrelevant which party gets in because the government, whichever flavor it is, is controlled by these agencies, and you don't know who they are.
[01:52:06] Unknown:
You know? I'd I'd prefer to refer to to to call us, pre selected representation. Well, you would, but I like that. Well, of course I would. But, you know, it's a good one. It is. It's organized. Yes. But but it is though, isn't it? So the the illusion that you get a choice between, you know, blue tie or red tie even though they're both pushing the same agenda, Well, where's where's where's the true choice in that? You know, there should be there should be hundreds of candidates lining up, you know, if if if we had a true democracy and it would never always be mainstream because people had lost their their faith in that a long time ago. But but to me it's like well you know we've pre selected this candidate or pre selected that candidate for you, which one would you choose? Well neither really because I don't agree with the system full stop and they don't represent us that's another lie isn't it? You know, elective representation they don't represent you, they commercial interests as well, which is a conflict of interest if we look at it from that perspective.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
Yeah. And their own survival, which I understand. You know, If they get enmeshed in a political party that gains power, they're they're done for, are they? Actually, I came across something where is it? Here. It's very brief. I found it. So here we go. I wanna play this. It's forty six seconds. It's Enoch Powell. No. It's forty seconds. How about that? It's Enoch Powell from years ago being interviewed on American TV show. The point he makes though taps into some of this. He's listen to this anyway.
[01:53:33] Unknown:
Even if today, all immigration, whatsoever were ended, banged, from today, we would still be faced with a rate of expansion of the immigrant, population and their children, concentrated in certain areas, which there is a greater anxiety not to admit. And one understands this. First of all, if you belong, as all politicians do, in England to parties who've allowed this to happen, there's a strong premium on not admitting the full weight of the consequences.
[01:54:15] Unknown:
That's key. So these people that are in political parties, they never ever come out with the communication that the British public are yearning to hear, something like that. Because they're part of a party that is literally its history is of supporting this for the last forty, fifty years. So if we can't get and I think under those circumstances, it's virtually impossible to see how it's gonna happen. If you can't get these supposed representatives talking honestly, I'm paraphrasing John Swinton there, putting their honest opinions out into the public marketplace, we haven't got you can't have a democracy because it starts, does it not? True. With individuals communicating what they perceive as the truth and doing it with an open heart and with some level of integrity. Certainly any level would be welcomed over what we've currently got because there's zero integrity. There's not there isn't any.
And so the whole thing is this great delusional space held together by, the mendacious mainstream media to keep everybody sort of in this space, the story. This is it. This is their story. Where, you know, most people are absorbed into it because of where it comes from. It comes from the television, it comes from the trustworthy BBC, it comes from the Times, it comes from the Telegraph, it's in the Independent, it's in the Mirror, it's in the Sun. They're all like echo chambers but pitched at different sections of the populace. And but they're basically telling the same story, that this is worthwhile, you know. This individual is the reprobate, but the system's actually not bad. Whereas it's the other story. The system itself is working perfectly for them. We perceive it to be broken, but it's broken with regards to our deluded view of what it can do to us. And it is deluded. It can't achieve anything like it says on the tin.
You'd you'd have it under false sales literature. You can't do this. You don't manage the country. Keir Starmer, you're not in charge of it. Rachel Reeves, you don't run the economy. Please tell us who does. I can't, you know, why? Because I'd lose my job, I might even lose my life. Okay, that's fine. Okay, now we understand. But that we're never gonna get to that level of completely frank and forthright communication, which it seems to me is absolutely vital. And if what if there's one man who touched it more closely than anybody else, it's Powell. That's why everybody loves Powell to this day, because he stood up and he actually did represent his people and had the courage to speak the unpalatable truths, which basically cast guilt rightfully on all of the members of these political parties. They are guilty of being absent at their post and they're gonna maintain that behavior pattern, it seems to me, because if they go again it, they're done for. And the consequences to them personally are considerable. It's a bit like down at the BBC as well. I don't think many people stepped out because they're all fearful about losing their pensions.
[01:57:11] Unknown:
Mhmm. This guy that's been sacked, he's gonna get his. They do the same with all all so called public servants, though, don't they? They get them on the pension. The pensions are that good and that enticing, but the only you know, they're they're so afraid to lose it. Yeah. Okay. It's a very good pension. Well, you've got to wait until retirement until you can get it obviously, but if you're a naughty boy we'll just rescind it and take it away from you, you know, there's always that threat looming over them it's like well yeah if you don't have to pull the party line or you know state policy wherever you go but you know if you don't we will we might not be able to pay your pension.
So again it's a it's a form of blackmail if you think about it.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
It is and of course the whole pensions thing which I don't know enough about except that it'll be completely wonky. Part of the economy is actually kept going to keep the people that are reliant on pensions ensconced and controllable in their position. I mean, if all the pension funds collapsed, you won't be able to control these people because they well, I've got nothing to look forward to anyway, so I'm gonna start blurting the truth. All these strange sort of second and third level pressures that you don't think about, you know, in the first five or ten seconds of looking at a topic, which are sitting there and are applying pressure on people, which are causing them to behave in an insane way, an unsane way. This is not sane, it's like you know we say here none of the discussions about the economy are relevant because they omit how to deal with the bank. This is primary function, it's like being a guy that maintains engines. Well I know I know about, I know about the block here, but do you know anything about fuel? No. No. So so if you don't know anything about fuel and how we get in the engine it's not going to run is it? Well, I don't really want to talk about that. And that's that's part of it. There's a lack of it's why I use the word engineer. We need engineers literally in charge of things. I don't mean social engineers. Right? We've got those unfortunately. My favorite subject. That's not why I'm talking. Yeah. But I mean if you define in my definition of an engineer is someone who, when they're talking about whatever it is they've designed or built and they tell you what it will do, it does exactly what they tell you it's gonna do. They say I've built this engine and it will last for five five years, it will last for fifteen if you maintain it every year, if you don't five years tops it'll fall apart. And if it starts doing that you go this guy's got integrity because everything he says pans out and how does he know that? Because he's an engineer because he's worked out you know, in this particular case the stress levels on metal or whatever it or the heat and or whatever it may be in their particular discipline.
And you look at how, you know, our guys put jet engines together. I've been watching this recently. Some of these guys, you know, that we've had over here that nobody knows about. Everybody's heard about Frank Whittle and these they go off and they just go off with a pencil. This is why I talk about this stuff. And they've created something and said it's gonna do this, but it won't do that because you haven't supplied me with this. It'll fall over. And then you find in all of these developments government bods step in and cock it up every time, every single time, so that the inventions and the creativity that's on the ground that would actually help people in real life, in practical terms, doesn't come to market in a particular way. Anyway, that said, we're coming up to the end of our time slot here on on our on WBN, So thanks for being with us for the past couple of hours. We'll be back again at the same time next week. We're going to have a transition song. We're carrying on over on Rumble and YouTube and elsewhere. If you want to tune in, go over to paulenglishlive.com and you'll find all the links there to Rumble and YouTube.
We played Van Morrison in the first bit. We're gonna play him again because this is relevant. I've played this before but it's a cracking tune. This is They Own the Media, Van Morrison top guy because he doesn't get all patent happy when you play songs. How about that all copyright happy? Good stuff. Song coming up and we'll be going through into hour number three after this.
[02:00:59] Unknown:
They tell us that ignorance is bliss. I guess for those that control the media it is. They are the media they control the stories we are told. If you ever try to go against them, you will be ignored because they control. They control. They control the narrative. They perpetuate the myth. Keep on telling you lies, tell you ignorance is bliss. Believe it all and you'll never get, never get wise. To the truth, because they control everything you do. Everything you do. They control the narrative. They'd protect you with a myth. Keep on selling you lies.
Tell you ignorance is bliss. Believe it all and you never get the truth. Never get wise, wise to their lives, to their lives. They can't show the media. They control the media. They control the media. They control the media. They control the media.
[02:04:04] Unknown:
And I just want the anti American, anti Israel, anti West crowd to understand something. You're gonna have to come through me and millions of people just like me, and you're not gonna make it. You think your stupid little podcast or your stupid little subscription program or your little TV show or maybe you have a little radio show is gonna change the world like hell it is, not if I and everybody else have something to say about it.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
Thanks. That was, Mark Levin telling us where to go. He's a radio host apparently in The States. So our shitty little radio show. Sorry about that, but we're gonna keep on with it. Yeah. He had a new guest on. I'm thinking, oh, this guy's a straight talking bastard, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah. He's a lovely guy. He's great. He's full of it. Anyway, the song was, They Own the Media by Van Morrison. And as I mentioned there, just before we played it, he's, he owns all his music and he lets you play it. How about that? Which is wonderful. And, of course, him being very, very talented and easy to listen to helps. And the lyrics couldn't be more spot on. I probably would wanna play that every week, but we'd it'd drive everybody mad. But I I love it. It's, it's very apt for tonight's show. So there we go. So there you go. If you're doing a crappy little podcast, Mark Levin's out for you.
So I just thought you ought to know is to cheer you all up. I'm shaking in what's left of my boots because I've worn them out this year. I've been walking around them so much they're falling apart now. I only bought them in February and they're all gone. But it's not bad they only cost £25. So I think you know
[02:05:47] Unknown:
My problem with boots is the laces always snap.
[02:05:50] Unknown:
I've got these really posh well I say they're posh boots they're not really You don't know you're on strength Nathan. You're too strong with you're too reckless with your your laces.
[02:05:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm also I'm also a skin flint, so I just basically I just knot them back together and hope that that holds for a while. It tends to. So alright. There you go. How's that for sustainability? I'm saving laces. Can I not buy yourself?
[02:06:12] Unknown:
Well, buy yourself some Aultbergs. That's what the British army is. I'll ask Steve about Aultbergs. They're bloody good. They're called Aultbergs. They're made in Yorkshire and Eop. And No. Last a lifetime, and you can get them secondhand, on, army surplus places. And new, they're over a £100, but you can buy them secondhand and they've hardly there's no wear in them at all. They look new, for anything between 30 and £50. And, Aultbergs, but about 30 to £50
[02:06:45] Unknown:
for an Aultberg. That's the northern battle cry. If you're from Yorkshire, whatever it costs How much? That's what you say. How much?
[02:06:52] Unknown:
I don't think so. How much? Come on. We'll go somewhere else, love. Don't think so. That's how it works. Do you know what? Every time. What about I went around the shop the other day. I was I was in, TK Maxx and just it literally the stuff everywhere. And I'm going, well, that's great, that is, except for the price. I won't be paying that for it. It's just I'm just thinking what I mean, everything is just massively overpriced now, and I just I I can't be bothered. I'm just like, well, that's overpriced, didn't it? Don't you think? Yeah. It says actually. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I'm not buying it. And then you find some that that should be £20 and it's too quid and you're like, oh, damn it.
You know?
[02:07:26] Unknown:
I don't know what it was like for you when you were younger, but when I was younger, my mum was like that everywhere when we went shopping, and it used to embarrass me. I just thought cut it. Yes. Why are we because I'm about eight. And she go, we're not paying that. And so they could hear, you know, it was just really upfront. Yeah. We're not paying you that. Well, that's the price, madam. Well, we're off somewhere else, you know. You shouldn't sell such ropey stuff. It was great. I just love it. It's fantastic. It's it's sort of the energy of proper shopping, not like all polite on online stuff. What's the point about shopping? I mean, I'm like these days, no retail. Anyway. Nah. I bloody hate shopping. I'm a bloke. I can't stand it. It's just irritating. I go, I need a jumper. Why is there not one in my wardrobe? Oh, you mean I've got to go and buy a new one? Oh, God. It's not the money thing. It's just the effort of having to go and pick one out. And then you get it and someone says, that doesn't suit you right. Oh, bloody hell, bugger off. You know, it's just to keep me backside warm or something like that. And, do you know the worst thing and I know that we've gone a bit off track here, but the worst thing for me and I'm right? So oh, god. This is gonna be embarrassing. Right. I've got I've got size six feet. Right? Now for some reason, one shoe shot. I know I know it's not proportionate. So before anyone accuses me of having a little ding dong, sorry to disappoint you.
[02:08:35] Unknown:
You know, it's there's no there's no proportion there. Anyway, it's it's it's not relative. Anyway, so I went into shoes over a couple of weeks ago. I know I couldn't resist. And and so they said, well, the problem that we've got is the children's shoes only go up to a size, what is it, a size five, and then the adults start at a size seven. So even by their own admission, it was bloody daft. And I'm thinking, well, they're okay. So so I hate shoe shopping because of that. It's ridiculous. There you go. Get some proper bloody feet for a start. Oh, well, tell me about it. I know. This probably explains why you had your blood sugar rush. I don't know what's going on there. Well, Don, I'm on the whiskey now, so I'm probably gonna get another one shortly. But, I I forgot I hate your feet. I do. But Mark Anthony's laughing at me there. Yeah. Laugh it up, Mark. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, it is it is bloody stupid. I'm I blame your mother. I think those were something like a size four foot. It's ridiculous. Blame genetics.
Well, I I haven't seen your feet, but I suspect none of them is anybody else either. Do you wanna know something? Alright. Yeah. I know, but it might be size six, but I can use my toes as fingers. You've gotta see you've gotta see it's great. I can tip stuff up and then lift it up and great. It's like I can I can even I can oh, you you know what? I reckon if I have an OnlyFans channel on just me feet, I'd make a bloody fortune picking stuff up and writing with me toes and stuff. There you go. That's crazy as anyway. Can't be without you. It's it's all lies, really.
[02:09:55] Unknown:
I'll sub. That'd be great. I I think I'd be care I mean, if I had feet that small, I'd be careful how much whiskey I drink. I can't imagine how you could keep your balance at me. It's just a Well, okay. Here's the good thing. Size twelve. I'm about twelve an hour. Bloody hell. Yeah. Yeah. And I've got hands that are as big. You know what they say about blokes with big feet, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's definitely not in proportion. I hate to disappoint people. Oh, does that mean he's got a tiny ding dong? Sorry. No. No. I've got a very nice one of those, actually. I'm I'm not a comment. Eric's staying My rugby's staying terribly silent here. I think you can read a lot into it. He's not he's not Tightly.
[02:10:27] Unknown:
Anything. Well, I'm I'm size eight, which is the most which is the most common suit shoe size there is. But have you tried barefoot shoes? Because that's what I wear, barefoot boots.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
They're bloody brilliant. Jesus. I was tempted to say something else about barefoot there, but I think I'll keep that one to myself. I could come across really bad. Yes. No. Carry on. Heredityus has got, an interesting observation about your feet, Nathan. Go for it. He thinks that you might be like Mr. Tumnus from the Narnia stories.
[02:10:57] Unknown:
And are your feet are your feet cloven?
[02:11:00] Unknown:
And, it's an interesting point, Herodotus. That's a very good observation. It hadn't struck me in that way, but this is Tell me, it's it's some people have finally clicked. I've got cloven hooves. Is that what we're saying? Is that Yeah. Well, actually, with your beard, you know, you do have a bit of a look about of I know. I've been told I'm very elfish looking as well. I know. I got I told you I've had I've had every every name, every every insult going at this point in time. It's just like, shit. Go on. Be creative. Let's see what we can get next. So it's quite fun. I I don't I don't think being called an elf is necessarily an insult. Not if you've got magical powers. That would be quite useful, wouldn't it really? That would be quite Magical attributes. Does that count? I I haven't I don't know. I'm not see this is where the weird this is why I shouldn't drink. I'm not gonna finish that sentence because it's, I mean it probably ended up It's making the show quite interesting. We've we've come off on a strange direction, but I don't really mind. It's just whether you can make it with such small feet. Can you touch me warm up? I've made it I've made it forty five years with these little buggers. You know what? If I was Roman, they'd call me Caligula. That's the funniest part about it because that means little boots, doesn't it? But but equally Really? Getting upstairs is really great because my my foot's just just slightly over the size of the steps, so I don't have to worry about, like, legging it up and down the steps on tiptoes.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Well it's it's nice talking about feet size and footwear. Someone could say we're talking about a lot we're talking a lot of cobblers which which there's definitely room you know I I'd be hard pressed to disagree with them really but it's very interesting. I don't know whether you should have said that or not.
[02:12:27] Unknown:
I think I genuinely don't care. Yeah. It's all over. It's all over. Reputation ruined. That's the whiskey talking. It is. I'm gonna be waiting tomorrow morning. I'm gonna I've got something that every everyone will be envious of. Oh, I can't tell you. You might as well you might as well disclose it now. And I'll I'll
[02:12:47] Unknown:
I will show I think aunt Sally's seen it as well. It's my bunyon on my foot. Woah. Yeah. My nice bunyon. Lovely. And, you know, if you like, I'll show you my growth. Now, actually, it's it's, do do you remember that on was it, oh, what was it? It wasn't Python, was it? A bloke whose uncle had suffered from every disease or something. What was it called here? Can't think of it. Something ripping yarns with Michael. Yeah. And that was classic. But, no, I've got a beautiful bunion. So and what do you think of my bunion arm, Sally? I think he's a very nice bunion. You've seen it. Miles has seen it. Mosey's assistant has seen it, and she's always seen the bunion as well.
[02:13:36] Unknown:
Hey, Chris. I've got a question for you. I've got a question for you. So you know how, feet usually smell a bit cheesy? Mine do. Yeah. Does does that mean you've got cheese and bunion feet? I mean, I mean, you could sell that to walkers. I mean, you know, they'd they'd pay for that one. Yeah.
[02:13:53] Unknown:
No. Could it yes. Eric's cheese and bunion feet.
[02:13:59] Unknown:
But I sure it's for you. Reply with a salt and vinegar. Oh dear. Oh no. I know. Look, I did tell you it's been a weird bloody day. It's it's, you know. Oh, hang on. I'm sorry. He's got two bunions. Yeah. But hers are lovely. Yeah. But mine mine's a lovely bunion. Mine is. Some with big toe. Beautiful bunion. And Sally's got two lovely bunions. Yours is probably a hideous male bunion. We don't really wanna go there. Yes. And, Sally, also, she's thinking of you too, Nathan. She She makes a comment here that you probably would be able to fit women's shoes as well. I don't know who might be in this conversation to take I know. I know. Do you know? Right? It's bad enough being told that you can get a kid's shoes, but when they start saying, no. Have you ever had a look at the women's? Yes. I have. Sawed off. I think I'll get them online. Thanks very much. Bye. Well, you'd be You know, what you want me to wear? You'd be in the with the You'd be in the
[02:14:49] Unknown:
fashion of the day. Yeah. You'd be broke with the fashion of the day. You might make more friends.
[02:14:54] Unknown:
So well well, I hunky tonk.
[02:14:56] Unknown:
I've got enough I've got enough friends. I don't need any more friends. I've got tons of old buggers anyway.
[02:15:04] Unknown:
Anyway, swiftly Yeah. Swiftly moving on. No. Okay. Swiftly moving on. If I will. I've just I've just changed the image in the studio. Oh. Hold on. I'll be on the phone. Which you could should now be able to see. And, you sent me this earlier today or yesterday. This is about an upcoming event that you're in with, Mark Devlin and Steve James. Yeah. Steve's well known because he's on Eric's show every Monday or Sunday. He's on regularly with, with Eric. Yeah. And thought, this is now getting beamed out across Rumble and, YouTube. I thought you might want to say a few words about this. And also, I have a question. Those three wise men in the bottom right hand corner, which one are you? That's what I wanted to know. Probably the one with the small feet, really. Although it's different The one with the small ear, but you can't see the feet, obviously, clearly.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
That's why I didn't ask, you see. Well, I mean, you know, at this rate, I I I go I don't know which one's got the gold. I'll just take the gold and run. I'll take the middle one. There you go. He's got the crown and the gold. There you go. I don't know whether people can see that on YouTube. Is it is it bleeping bleeping out? No. They're about to in a minute. They're about to in a minute. Don't worry. I'm I'm about to actually sort of do something sensible. And actually, I'd forgotten that I've got a two stage beaming process here. So there we are. So it's,
[02:16:16] Unknown:
yeah. So this is you know? This is but I I actually think that Joseph wasn't very good in, shall we say, when he when they handed out brains, he thought they said trains, and he missed these. Because you think your wife gives birth and she's a virgin, and three blokes were arrive on the seat bearing seen raving gifts. Wouldn't you be mildly suspicious? Would you say that? And what are the bleeding gifts? Myrrh. You wanna stick your blade in myrrh. You stick you can't keep the gold. Myrrh? What's that? You know? Well,
[02:16:48] Unknown:
yeah. I mean, I'd I'd So Josh as well. Spices, isn't it? Well, I'd want the gold, yeah. Just just so so do you not know that the the story with with Mary and Joseph? Because, what we're told is that basically she is carrying somebody else's child. Don't get me started on the Immaculate Conception because I can annihilate that one in two seconds, but let me come back to that. So Joseph basically agrees to marry Mary so that she doesn't have to go through all the embarrassment and the, you know, of basically you know bearing a child out of wedlock and things like that. Insofar as immaculate conception, let's just a little bit of wordplay for you. So the initial the original translation for this was 'alma'. So where where you hear the word virgin it comes from the word 'alma' which means 'young maiden'. It doesn't mean necessarily that she was a virgin, it's it's got a three three like there's three different meanings attached to it. 'Young maiden' or 'woman of breeding age' is number two and a a third meaning was was virgin, so obviously the church has taken it as oh well we'll just go for virgin make it all mystical and make it all about immaculate conception' but there you go have a look at the original translations and you'll soon find that it's not it's not as fantastic and as mystical as it as it sounds but there you go.
Just thought I'd throw that in and offend some Christians.
[02:18:08] Unknown:
You know, sorry about that. No. We're all enquirers here but, this event anyway. So it is getting beat out over the platform. Sorry about the delay everybody but I I realized that I pressed the wrong button. What's it about? What are you doing? What's the date and everything? You've got a little sort of window here to do some salesmanship. December 17. What day is that? What day is the seventeenth?
[02:18:30] Unknown:
Right. Okay. So the December 17. So I'm probably gonna get shot for saying this. We didn't do this deliberately before anyone accuses us of of it, but basically, the December 17 coincides with the Roman festival of Saturnalia. So you know there's that but the basically it's a Wednesday It's a Wednesday you know, it is. So what it what it is is there's a lot of esoteric stuff around Christmas, around the sun, around the constellations, the zodiac and you know things like that. So Steve, James and myself have done in the past presentations which cover this and cover the esoteric history, the esoteric tradition behind Christmas, and look at the similarities between that and other traditions as well as looking at the the you know the occult meaning of it, the mystical part to it. And it is genuinely fascinating. It's you know you look into things like reindeers and and phrygian hats, because there's just so much stuff there. The three wise men as you can see from the graphic I don't know whether it's on there but that that certainly seems to insinuate a certain star constellation preceding you know Sirius which goes back to the Egyptian Horus and and Isis and you know Osiris and Isis basically.
Right I'm gonna get back on track so yeah we've got we've got three presentations from Mark Devlin, Steve James and myself. It's an all day event, it starts at 12:00 in the evening goes all the way until 8PM, you'll be able to buy Mark's books, you'll be able to buy my books at the presentations as well, so for anyone who's interested there is a there is a link there to book tickets, there's the address on the poster, so if anyone wants to get in touch you know, my address if anyone's got a pen handy, if you want further details on this occasion I'll try and answer my emails as quickly as possible which is nathan luciusphpgmail dot com. So if anyone's got any questions come through on that, otherwise if you want to book a ticket it's on the poster.
There you go. I'm not a salesman, I'm shit at doing this kind of stuff, I'm alright putting posters and things together, but I'm absolutely terrible at selling my own stuff. So Steve James is better at doing that than I am. But anyway, anyone who's interested please would love to see you come along, it's a fantastic trio, I'm gonna say that because I'm part of it, and there's a lot of stuff to learn and there's a lot of esoteric details in there that I think people will find fascinating even if they don't agree with it it's fine, you know it's not to offend anybody but you know get yourselves along, see if you can learn something mystical and festive, have a nice Christmas, have a drink while you're there and, you know, have a chat with myself, Mark, and Steve. So, you know, just just get yourselves over there if you can. It's a bit out the way, though,
[02:21:08] Unknown:
in Seaton Dela. Is that so just on your email address, that's nathannathanluciusphp@gmail.com.
[02:21:15] Unknown:
Was it g mail dot com? That's the one. Okay. Yeah. So I've I've just put that in the chat in both the chats. Well, I've I've put it in the rumble chat. I'll just add it in Yeah. I was gonna say, I think you the reason I put my address in two halves is because YouTube doesn't like you to put that kind of thing in there, so it kinda senses it out. So the reason I put my email in two halves, is for that reason. So I don't know whether it'll come across any better on your, like, on your comments, but that's why I've done that.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
Well, I typed it in. It's bound to come across. No. I've put it in with the the whole thing's in there. So that's okay. It should be there unless it doesn't pop up. And that's alright. That's fine. So get in touch with Nathan about this event if you, are able to make it up to Seaton Terrace Social Club. And whereabouts is Seaton Terrace Social Club roughly? It's in North Umbria Land, which is where he comes from. Yeah. Isn't it North Umbria Land, now now known as North Umberland? Whereabouts is where's is that a big place, Seaton, or where's the nearest big city or town? The nearest
[02:22:16] Unknown:
so again so this is near Steve. So thank you to Steve and his wife for for, you know, securing the venue for us. I mean, that's that's that's the date that we could get so we had to you know we've worked with what we've what we've got but it's up in it's up in, I think the closest place to it is Blythe which is just North Of Newcastle so again if anyone needs directions Google Maps will tell you where it is. Well done. Just North Of Newcastle. Just North Of Newcastle. Yeah. It's about an hour North of Newcastle.
[02:22:45] Unknown:
45 miles. Is it something like that? 40 miles from Newcastle?
[02:22:48] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a pleasant little place to go though. I mean, we've we've had a couple of of like, sound baths on the beach in the past as well which is which is I think that was there as well which is where we've basically had a sound bath and slept on the beach all night which has been absolutely fantastic. I think the first one we did was on the, summer solstice. Right. Yep. So that was that was very nice. And then the second one was kind of September ish, but there was I think it was September, but it was a bit chilly then. So I don't think we'll be doing a winter solstice one.
[02:23:18] Unknown:
No. So it's basically five weeks as of yesterday. Yes. Isn't it? Yeah. Five weeks as of yesterday, which was a Wednesday. So Yeah. Okay. Well, I I'm not making any promises. So I've got very large feet. I don't know whether they'll let me into Northumbria. Well, you know, you'll have you'll have to pass the killer test, won't you? I'm the thing is, Wednesday, it'll be a bugger for me to get back to do the show. That would be the problem.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
But, you know, I can't remember Christmas holiday on the show. I was gonna say you've got an option there, mate. I'll give you I'll give you an option. If you wanna do this the show, why don't you come and stop with me for a couple of nights and you can broadcast from here? And you'd be quite welcome to do that if you like.
[02:23:55] Unknown:
But I'd have to look at your feet then. Wow. Well, let me think about chicken galleys. Well, I'm due to head up north to Yorkshire to see relations and all that kind of thing at some point. Oh, okay. And, yeah. I was even looking to buy a car to I haven't had a car for ages. First time in my life since about 20 that I've not had a car. I haven't missed it at all. There were all sorts of reasons. And I keep looking at hiring them, renting cars. And the amount of times I go on long journeys, it's actually gonna be much more cost effective for me to just rent a car for, like, four or five days. They they're cheap as chips these days. They don't cost much. And I'm thinking that's what I might do. Anyway, this is really rather tedious for everybody who might not be going. But if you if you are going, that's, Nathan's the guy to get in touch with. Nathanlussiusphp@gmail.com.
We put it in the chat here on Rumble and YouTube.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
It's on the image somewhere, although you'll have to blow it up full screen, I guess, if you listen to the audio. So the bottom left, it'll give you a little a little link to where you can get your tickets from. You can communicate. It's it's like Kofi coffee. It's like, you know, basically buy me a coffee, but it's I'm new to it so Holly set that up for me the other day. You can communicate with me through that but if you do book your tickets online through the Kofi app, please remember to put your name and email address with it so that I know, you know, who's basically booked you know it's and obviously that'll secure your place. There's plenty of seats available, there's plenty of you know that I don't really think we're gonna fill the hall.
It's a fair size by all accounts so but anyway, no I mean look it'll be festive, it'll be mystical, it'll be very educational. Mark Devlin's got a new a new pod not podcast he's got a new presentation as well which is all linked into equinoxes and solstices and he's obviously linked it into his own work about the music industry.
[02:25:42] Unknown:
But, you know, get yourselves along. By the way, anyone who's never met Mark Sounds a really good afternoon and evening out, actually. Sounds really good. Have you sorted your running order then? Or is there who's going on first? Who's going on last? Do you know? Yeah. No. I've been being asked about this. So You're drawing straws on it. Well Maybe maybe it's gonna be an ascending feet size, Nathan, or descending. It all depends. Oh, it looks like we're going first, doesn't it? Well well, if it's descending, you might might be last. Who knows?
[02:26:11] Unknown:
Well, I'm thinking we need Mark on an evening. So, obviously, with it being a Wednesday, you know, people are still probably going to work. I know it's the end of the season. It's the end of the the, you know, the last week. That? Yeah. I think this is all mean. You can go sickie. I mean, if anyone needs to pull a sickie, there's plenty of excuses. Just tell them you've all got COVID. You know? Oh, damn it. There's your channel gone. Sorry.
[02:26:32] Unknown:
Well What's that? I don't know what you're talking about. Really? Oh, it's not working. That up. Why is it coming back? Is it? Yay. COVID too. Probably. Can't wait. Just when you call it safe to go out into the street and buy some sausages, it's back. So, yeah, that that'll be well, I don't know. It'll give us more material for future shows. We can sort of rerun the whole thing. Although, I think everybody's kind of exhausted with that madness.
[02:26:57] Unknown:
But maybe they feel they've got leverage lifting it. Yeah. Let's leave that one. Just, can I can I, do a little bit more advertising here as well of so Steve Steve James and myself, we've we've started a new podcast series? Because I'm always delayed doing stuff, I've not uploaded the videos yet, but they will go live. We've got two so far. There's another one coming at the end of the week with with we've got a guest hopefully lined up for that one. So when that's up and running, I'll I'll link that to to various channels through Telegram and stuff. So if anyone's interested, you know, Steve James and now we've we've got a channel that investigates things like natural law, you know, the occult mystical stuff, little bit on conspiracy related issues, it's, you know, it's any anybody who likes what Steve and I talk about it will be on there. It's, you know, we try not to make it too serious, we're trying to keep it a little bit upbeat whilst whilst just getting it, you know, putting a few presentations in there as well.
I'll let you know when it's up and running, but it's all linked into this. And the reason I've gone for a Christmas, seminar is, again, because of the the the secret traditions behind it. I think people will find fascinating especially when they look into things like Santa Claus and Krampus and mushrooms, especially things like that. Elves, you know, don't you know, elves obviously with small feet. And, there's tons of stuff in there. What about Randolph the brown nosed reindeer? Randolph the brown nosed reindeer. Interesting. I'm not making comments on that, mate. I'm I'm I'm making no Actually, Randolph the brown nosed round brown nosed reindeer
[02:28:25] Unknown:
actually ran behind Rudolph and had problems with stopping.
[02:28:30] Unknown:
I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. And you know this you know this obviously because you were a reindeer rider, and, and you and you made you made on the flyer, Gary. Do do you know do you know where where the idea oh, just sorry. Just just to interrupt, do you know where the idea of flying reindeer came from? Where did it come from, Nathan? Right, okay, so so probably people in the chat will already know this but basically so you know you had the Viking, the Berserker gang, you know the ones that basically went into battle naked with an axe, actually two axes I think in some occasions, so basically what they would do A bit like Leeds United supporters.
Yeah, not that bad. Not that bad. But anyway they would get the fly agaric mushroom and basically consume one which would send them into this, you know, tripped upstate this this delusional drugged upstate where where they would see all kinds of trippy psychedelic stuff and they would charge into battle with the full intent of never surviving the battle. But what they what they found is that the fly agaric is actually quite toxic to humans in, you know, basic consumption. So they would feed it to their reindeers who would then basically filter out the toxins and, you know, urinate out the the the toxin, you know, the sorry, the potion, basically, so that you would then consume that as a as a, psychedelic drug, which obviously if you see reindeer, which you'd have had a lot of in in Scandinavia, you know, that sort of like Nordic locations, you're gonna see some really trippy stuff. You know, elves, people riding riding reindeer, flying reindeer, probably, you know, weirder stuff than that, I would imagine. But, yeah, there's there's a tradition behind that. Hence, the mushroom So you lost me a bit when you're saying that they would give it to the reindeer.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
The reindeer would urinate the toxins out. Well, they would so so
[02:30:23] Unknown:
they they would they would filter out the toxins and then and then they'd urinate basically the the the purified version of the of the mushroom so it's so that they they could then consume that
[02:30:32] Unknown:
as a as a cycle. So the Vikings were drinking reindeer
[02:30:36] Unknown:
urine. Is that what you're saying? I I I think I think lots of I think lots of people were doing this even far beyond the Vikings. I think this went far into the Christian era and, up until modern well, obviously, clearly, there's a tradition, you know, there's Christmas traditions to do with this as well. So, yeah, it's it's it's an interesting one. Seriously, that's
[02:30:55] Unknown:
that's where the word pissed comes from. Seriously. That that's where it comes from. Oh, hey. Tell us a tell us a bit about that. Well, apparently, the the the actual, medicine men used to drink these sort of this this used to have these funny mushrooms that sent them onto a trip. And the idea was you collect their wee wee, and that would send you on a trip as well. And that's where the seriously, that's where the term pissed comes from. Yeah. So people drink piss. And then that is serious. I'm not saying that's a joke. That actually was a serious thing. So, it's a bit like the old, saying, pissed as a newt.
Now that didn't exist in Great Britain before the Americans came here in World War two because what they used to say is pissed as an Inuit. But up in Norfolk, where a lot of the American air force bases were, they misheard what they said, and they thought they were saying pissed as an newt. But it wasn't. It was pissed as an Inuit because members of the Inuit tribe were always drunk. So there we are, a little bit more Nice. Info. Not many people know that. I'll come out on some of the things. Bad combination,
[02:32:03] Unknown:
I suspect. A bit like Apaches and whiskey
[02:32:07] Unknown:
doesn't work for them very, very bad. I mean, it doesn't work for me either, mate, but I'm drinking it anyway. So Yes. There we go. But it looks a nice place to put you up on,
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Wikipedia. Whitley Bay, that looked very picturesque, as my dad used to say. Picturesque. Squeeze? Just picturesque. It's a lovely place. Yes.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
So, date right. So in in YouTube comments, Daisy's there. So day Daisy's co organizing this with myself and Steve. So, you know, if if anyone's got any questions, please feel free to ask in the comments. I'll answer as best as I can. I'm a terrible salesman, but I'm I'm good at presenting stuff. So Well, I got a question.
[02:32:41] Unknown:
Go for it. Why not why not go live on the Internet so we could all see it at the same time?
[02:32:48] Unknown:
Potentially, yeah. Here's a question. Well, my laptop is probably capable of recording it, but I'd need a I'd need a microphone,
[02:32:57] Unknown:
to go with it. Mhmm. But but so that's potentially potential. They both have got WiFi. There's, terrorist stuff.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
BBC. Call it the local BBC thing. Tell them that you've been paying your TV license, you want a bit of money back, and they can send a crew up and film it all. I mean, I'm sure they'd be happy to accommodate. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm sure. Yeah. So, you know, and you won't mention that they, they've been editing newsreels and making mister Trump look like an evil, posse. Is Trump the savior? No. No way. He is, apparently. I read it in the newspaper. It must be true. Yeah. It must be true. Somebody said it. It's very I mean, he's a good example really of this sort of mix mash of good stuff and bad stuff, isn't he?
Very much so. There's I mean, there's just the there's these sort of ridiculous things that he says. And then there's these good things that he says, you know, that you go, oh, well, that's alright. But unfortunately, they tend to get counteracted, by some of the madness that he says all the time, you know. There's a lot of that going on. Somebody sent me something through today, a little observation. How about this? This is, oh, this is from Andrew Torbert who's the head of Gap. So he put a little tweet out or an x, whatever you wanna call it. I quite like this. He says, so Trump's message to the American people this week, you're too dumb to build things. We need 500,000 pajeets a year to fill the jobs.
You're too dumb for college. We need 600,000 Chinese to fill the school slots. You're too poor. Here's a fifty year mortgage and a one time petty check for $2,000 to get you on your way. You're not struggling financially. The stock market's doing great. Here's my new gold plated room in the White House. I think that pretty much sums it up. Did I I I did catch his comment about these 600,000 Chinese students coming in. The comment was, oh, the colleges need them. Otherwise, they'll go out of business. What kind of cack handed benefit is that? This is just retarded stuff. Of course, basically, what he really needs to say is, oh, by the way, I actually work for the globalist too. Hello. Here's my credentials.
[02:35:00] Unknown:
That's the reason. Of course they do. Of course they bloody do. I mean, it's, you know, you don't really you don't get that kind of opportunity unless you're working for the, for for the side that funds you. Again, there's a financial institutions, isn't it? It's all with they're always in the background. Those lovely financial institutions and the policy makers, BlackRock and Vanguard, they're always there as well. So, you know, everyone's even if even if they're not originally, even if they put new platforms up or the, you know, something creative and original, eventually they'll offer you a price. And I my personal philosophy is everybody has a price. I know people argue against this, but it you know, I'm not necessarily talking about money. Everybody has a price.
[02:35:37] Unknown:
So, you know, let's let's be realistic. Yeah. Mine's at least 17 shillings and 6p if anybody's out there thinking about what it is. Right. It is or it's 2 guineas, depending on the weekend. That's really what it is. Speaking of strange things going off in the media or interesting things in the media or sort of dovetailing, that's the third time I've used that word, back into that. Mike Graham. Are you familiar with who Mike Graham is?
[02:36:03] Unknown:
Have you heard of him? Isn't he something to do with GB News or something? Am I thinking of the right guy? Talk Radio.
[02:36:10] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. He was on Talk Radio. Right? And, he, he basically he put a tweet up, oh, no. Sorry. He put a Facebook post up a few weeks ago, which has got him removed from the station. Oh. And he said at the time, my account was hacked. Possibly this is true. I don't know. I don't really care one way or the other. He was then supposed to sort of work with them. Anyway, Julia Hartley Brewer, who's so his show is 6AM or was 6AM to 10AM Monday to Friday. I don't know how you do that. I think he has to get up at 04:30 in the morning. His energy is amazing. And and of all the mainstream news things that you could listen to, it's the one that's closest to this. It still means it's a long way off, but he's in you can feel it in his intention. He's aware of what's going on.
So it was a very lively show and very well followed. And if it's the breakfast show, it means it's the biggest show on the network. It's that's how radio works. The biggest one is the is the breakfast show. 6AM to 10AM is a big hall. Anyway, Julia Hartley Brewer, made an announcement either today I'm trying to look at the date on this recently, this week. Anyway, I'm I'm just gonna play it to you. This is a minute and twenty four seconds because this shows you about the perils as it were in a way of the mainstream media. This is what she had to say. Welcome back to the show. This is talk. We are the home of common sense. It's two minutes past twelve. We are gonna go straight to p and q's just a few moments. But as you will have heard
[02:37:44] Unknown:
in the news, that, News UK, the parent company of the station talk, has made the following statement. Their statement reads as follows, we were made aware of an abhorrent and vile post on Mike Graham's social platform several weeks ago. Mike Graham said this was not posted by him, and he agreed to cooperate with a company investigation using an independent forensic firm. He later reneged on several opportunities to cooperate with the company investigation. We have been gravely concerned at his repeated failure to cooperate on such a serious matter, and the decision has been made, has been taken that Mike Graham will not return to talk.
I'm afraid, that is as much as I can say, on that matter. I know that is going to cause a lot of upset and a lot of concern for a lot of our audience who've been with us for a very, very long time. But that is the official statement from the parent company of Talk. And, and that is, that is where we are at, in terms of Mike Graham, who will not be returning to this station. Let me introduce you to my guest in the studio.
[02:38:58] Unknown:
So there we go. He's got She's a nauseating little shit, isn't she? Sorry sorry to interrupt there, but she's one of the she is an absolutely establishment in the bloody core, that one. I can't stand her.
[02:39:10] Unknown:
They're all under pressure, really. I suspect their private communications in the cafe are probably much closer to what we talk about than you could imagine. But you see, again, they've all got pensions hanging over their head and stuff like this. Now Mike Mike Graham, I actually because, we relay that show courtesy of WBN, on Radio Soapbox. We've been doing that for a few months. We haven't been doing it for the last few weeks. We've been relaying whoever's been sitting in to that spot. I don't know who it is, but it it won't be as good. Not that the person is not necessary, but it just won't be because he was prepared and often went up to the edge of things, you know, where where sort of nimbly going up to the edge of the precipice and looking into it and go, there's all the truth. I can't tell you the truth, but I can tell you what it looks like from a distance. It's that kind of thing. Anyway, what what's he's put out a little message. I've got some sympathy for him. This doesn't mean I'm a complete 100% fan. There'll be things that Eul have said on the show that I would vehemently disagree with that you can say this about everybody. But at least he was pushing in the right direction right direction about the restoration of this nation. That was a theme, you know, you can feel it in the way that he's talking about things. The only person I'm aware of out there that was doing such a thing, particularly on a major platform. So I think we can say was the number one radio news breakfast show in The UK, I think it must have been.
He wouldn't have been given the slot otherwise. The the best bit about the show was the calls in from the general public are extremely encouraging. And this is what I would say is that this soft communications approach, you can feel it. People are being very careful with how they make their criticisms, but you know what they're criticizing. I'm going back to that Enoch Powell clip as well. They're addressing this because it is the issue of the day. People are seeing it glaringly that the government are literally behaving in a treasonous and treacherous way towards the British people, which they obviously are. But you're talking to people who are calling for what it is. Sorry sorry. I mean I didn't
[02:41:13] Unknown:
No. I was gonna say this this is a massive thing, isn't it? Look. Our our own government is now committing treason. I mean, they are putting other people's sorry. Other nations' people, other nations' priorities before their own. That in and of itself is is treason, and it needs to be called out for what it is. They do not have the best interests of the people of this country, and that is their sole purpose. It's, you know, they're supposed to be public servants. They're supposed to serve the public, and they're not they're not doing that. They're completely traitorous and treasonous.
[02:41:42] Unknown:
Yeah. They're gonna get arrested. Yeah. They are. It's not even a debate. It's just an ob it's an observation that's true. It's an observation. It's just an observation that's true. And, you know, it's not that we're trying to sort of harm people. It's just that we prefer the truth, frankly. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think Mike Graham does as well. I've I've seen his post. I thought I had it up here, but I was gonna read it. It's not very long. It's just a photograph. The gist of it was, look, I went outside this morning and there are no English people here. That was the gist of it. Right? Yeah. I just see all these people,
[02:42:12] Unknown:
and I don't see my people around in the streets. Well, this is the and she what what was she told to describe it? She didn't write that. Right? That's an editorial thing that she was given to test for now. Script, isn't it? It's a script. She was given it to it's it's always the same. Even a bloody author, it was a a script. So she yeah. Complete complete establishment. Anyway, sorry to interrupt
[02:42:30] Unknown:
again. No no you're not. No it's it's all part of it and I think, so the idea of if we were to take, what we do and what others do to the next stage, we'd we would need a much higher degree of organization, promotion, marketing, yes, those dreaded things, to get the word out. But we actually all you really need is one or two excellent voices of which you would have to say he is one within the, the, you know, the the professional standards of of actual broadcasting as opposed to wonderful anarchic punk broadcasting that we do here, which I love, of course. But he's very very good and, in that he fits a certain slot. Of course, he's not going the whole way. You don't expect him to talk about the real heavy stuff. I don't. You'd be foolish to think that he would. But the idea of this is part of the nudge unit, our nudge unit. Nudging it back to where we want it to be nudged to. Anyway, I understand he he's put a little sort of video comment thanking everybody that's written to him. He's he's got a huge amount of support from his actual listener base, many of whom have said, I won't be listening to the station anymore because it's the only reason I tuned in was for you. This kind of stuff. So in other words, it's backfired on them. It's that's that's brilliant. That I mean, that is positive in and of itself. It's backfired. Their their effects sorry. Their their attempts to control the outlet of information has backfired because it got rid of one. Interesting. Of course. It all depends who we think we're defining when we use they in reference to them because it's possible, is it not, that the heads of the station were called onto the carpet to get rid of him by something higher up the food chain. That's highly likely, because they've got to guard certain things with regard to their advertisers. There's all this sort of other pressure that comes on them. We can't we're not we're gonna pull our advertising if you let that this is how newspapers have always been controlled. They've always been controlled through the media purchasers, the people that buy the ad space in newspapers. This is how they used to control it in the twenties and thirties. You're not running that editorial. Otherwise, you're gonna lose the Colgate account. We're not gonna place any more advertising with you. And newspapers, just like radio stations in in in mainstream media, can't survive without the income. They've got to pay their staff. I mean, producing the news is basically a lost leader. It's colossal amount of time gathering this stuff through. They've got legal departments that, you know, that have swollen in size because they're all guarding against one another getting sued, you know, by the Fockem Hult Sewers, of course, of the best of the world.
Yeah. Anyway, he's setting up his own he's set up his own YouTube channel. There's nothing there. It will probably become very popular. If I can find a way of porting it live into Radio Soapbox, I will do that. We'll definitely sort of bring it onto a radio thing. But, so we will see. He's gonna be like, is he our equivalent of Alex Jones twenty five years after the fact? Possibly. I don't know. But it, I'm empathetic towards him. I am. I don't agree with everything he says. But you can see that when he puts posts up, if you see some of the sort of criticisms of his posts, they are from the purple haired, blue you know blue dyed hair. The wall brigade.
Yeah. Absolutely. And, and they get hammered by his loyal supporters, which is wonderful to see. This thing is basically, this communications needs to be out in the open all the time. People will go home and find out that they didn't die, that they weren't talking to people that wanted to kill them. That's actually what the great strength of this is. If we it's a bit like if we keep our powder dry, they're dying to goad people, I think, in this space into doing something incredibly stupid. And we'll be sending their agents into this space to provoke that. As Eric has mentioned all the time, all these things get infiltrated.
[02:46:13] Unknown:
But I think our detection of infiltrators is also very high because as they conduct all these exercises against us, they're actually tuning us up. We're getting sharper at it just naturally by hanging around the special game. I absolutely agree with that. Yeah. I mean, which is a good again, this is this is a good thing. This is a step in the right direction. In in one way This is a good thing. Isn't it? Well, yeah. They're doing our work for us in one respect because they they you know, it's the Streisand effect, isn't it? They're basically creating the opposite effect of what they're going for because they're trying to control too much. They're trying to control a narrative. And what I've found is the more you try and control somebody, the more they're gonna rebel against you unless you've got something on them. If you've got something on them, that's different. Otherwise they'll rebel against it. Nobody likes being controlled.
[02:46:54] Unknown:
No they don't. And the radio stations are controlled. They'll have their license removed. Yep. You gotta you know, I'm not saying that some of the people in the radio station are not in agreement with this. Some will be. But there will be chunks this is a large organization, news organizer, and they have interdepartmental warfare. They just do. You know, you have these editorial you see it in films don't you? It's absolutely true. I want to publish this story, you can't. I'm not letting you publish it. Big fight with you, and he said, I'll fire you. You know, this that and the other. This goes on because individuals hit a point where they go the truth is actually more important than my future. Now he's got such a following that he will be able to survive this, you know. And it's it's really quite interesting that we've got this going on here in the radio world with him, who I think commands a much more respected audience than the BBC does. So he's been ejected out in this space. The head of the BBC or whoever's just left, they've been caught red handed lying and manipulating the news on a much much larger scale.
And they've been fighting so it's both of these things, both of them are good. They're both good things for people who are like us who are seeking to nudge this back to a sane, honest, open, and frank communication about the issues that really are striking us as Enoch Powell was iterating forty odd years ago in that clip that I played. These things are key. I think people begin to understand the process. So for most of, the sort of consumer's life, they they have not been able to see the wood for the trees. And now people are standing back, going off doing a bit of research, getting a broader panoramic view of what's going on and they're beginning to see the wood. And they see that it's dark and that it's rotten and it doesn't matter how much they know about the trees, don't go in there. It's a shithole. And this is what and this is, like, this is really I get quite excited about this because it's about understanding the context in which all this content comes to you. And once you get that the context is warped, you can dismiss the content because you begin to see it for the mind controls claptrap that it is. And this is great. This is a really good thing. It is. Well, by the way, Patrick would like to come on if that's okay. I just said I'll be sending it to you. No. I'm not. Okay. Thanks, Pat. I'm not doing it. No. I'm not adding any more in because we had we had such a hullabaloo. So I'm sorry to be like that. We'll do that another time. But, I've kept it like this on purpose. I wanted to have a few fewer voices in. I think it was the problem it is it's not the problem.
I got I I so enjoyed just you and me on Tuesday Eric, it sent off a lot of little mail bombs in my head and I just thought generally we've had too many, I've had too many voices around the microphone on the show it's kind of just gone that way and it tends to not work as as well as I think it could and I think tonight's worked better for me personally. I don't know what the audience thinks, but I'm just trying to keep the voices reduced. So don't take it personally, Patrick, but not not today. I'm not Yeah. Patrick, take it personally. That's it. That's it. Take it personally, mate. That's it. Take it just take your son off. Totally your son off. So little boots. Yeah. You know, we we you're not wanted, mate. At least you haven't got size six feet, Patrick. So it's not all bad. So, you know, it could be worse. You might not be able to stand up after two weeks whiskeys, which is what Nathan's doing. But, Well, I mean, you know, there's one. What is a big glass of whiskey? I'm probably gonna start slurring in a minute anyway.
[02:50:16] Unknown:
Just ignore me. Ignore me, people. I'm just I'm full of crap. Anyway, you carry on.
[02:50:21] Unknown:
No. I I well, I was just I mean, this is sort of the last point I'd had down on a sort of little agenda to talk about, but I'm very encouraged by this. I mean, not that maybe many people later have never tuned into him, and you're probably gonna find it rather sort of bland of bland fair in comparison to more intense sort of research con conversations that maybe you listen to, and I'm glad you do. And I listen to them as well. Well, not as much as I used to. But he's he's just a good voice, and he's he's pushing in this direction. So it's, you know, when we use the word we, we've got a wide variety of people involved in this. So all sorts of different levels of understanding and abilities. We just like any group of people that's what you're gonna have. But any sort of little step like this which is actually not that little is good. So I'm I'm hoping that his show thrives.
We'll see how YouTube treat him.
[02:51:13] Unknown:
I think I think again he's probably gonna be the next Russell Brand type figure. He's he's already got an existing audience so they'll just transfer from one platform to another. I mean who doesn't use YouTube these days? I'm not I'm not a fan of YouTube, but I'm not not a fan of YouTube if that makes sense. It does the job. The information's still accessible. I mean, there's so much content now that, you know, take your pick. I mean, the one the one good thing that's come out of this is the more they try and censor us, the more people appear to be pushing back. That and that's that's brilliant. There's all and again there's another way of looking at this there's always going to be a way to find it.
If people want it they'll find it. The information will get out, the truth will get out eventually. And I think I think generally, mate, speaking about the the population in general, I think there's a lot of investigation going on, I think there's a lot of distrust of the government, there's a lot of distrust in the media, people are starting to ask questions about things like digital ID, the technocratic infrastructure, you know things like biometrics, that that, you know, it's not going down too well. They need this to further their agenda. They can't get any further without this digital ID. It stops there. So they need the immigration and they need the digital ID. Without those two things, their agenda is stalled.
So let's keep stalling it.
[02:52:25] Unknown:
Yeah. You just we run as much interference as we're able to do without acting solidly and giving them co as we can possibly do. I I somebody sent me a clip. I think, unfortunately, Ireland have got a new prime minister, some Bint. And I call her a bint because she's part of the she just and I somebody said, I'm not playing the speech. It's just repellent nonsense. It's just childish guff talking about climate change and all these things. But as I was listening to it, I couldn't help but sort of smile thinking the traction on that argument has gone.
It's absolutely gone. They still are talking as if they think that the audience is with them. This is gonna keep on doing it. I want them to keep on doing this. It's fantastic. Because it's it's it's reached a very gentle sort of dismissal from a lot of people and that's very powerful. It's like it's just a casual laugh and you just throw it away. It doesn't have any bite. It's like this word being a racist. That's going as well. It's absolutely gonna go.
[02:53:22] Unknown:
One of the things I mentioned earlier that? Do you know who's created racism? The government. Because they're the ones that have made a massive deal out of it, and now they've accused everyone of racism. Now it's a massive issue. I was never racist. I don't think you've ever been racist. I don't think, you know, most of the people in the chat, I suspect have never been racist.
[02:53:39] Unknown:
Am racist, Nathan. Nathan, I am racist. No. No. Hear me out. Hear me out. Because it's a misunderstood thing. Right? Every single individual on the face of the earth is a racist. Every single one. It's completely normal. What does it mean? It doesn't mean anything, it's completely mad. The only group that can be accused of it in a negative way are white people, right? But the actual truth of it is you look at any group using more psycho language is there are in group preferences. That's what that's what it's called. It's completely normal.
It's totally normal. You could call me a familyist. Yeah I am. Familyist. I'm studying the music again. Gender again. For my family you see. Why? Because they're my closest, warmest, dearest in group that I've got, that I'm ever gonna have, that I've ever had, that any individual usually has. And it's just an extension of that. It doesn't mean, although it's come to mean that but this is getting broken down, it doesn't mean you sit around hating other people. No one's got the time or the energy for doing such nonsensical fictional crap. I know there are a few goofballs that they wheeled out who are sort of slobbering all over the place and say they're all like that. No.
A a racist is just a it's a term that was coined by Lev Bronstein, that creditable individual better known as Trotsky, to demonize the Russians to get them locked up. Well, it's just a rerun of 1932. They've just applied it here. Why? Because it's come through the Fabian Society and all that. So they they use the same playbook over and over and over and over again. And what's happened is a lot of people have caught onto it and they're going nah. Forget it, mate. Yeah. So you got your races and your point is what exactly? Sorry. You want me to cry or something? Ridiculous.
[02:55:25] Unknown:
No. I've just it's just something else. Sorry. I'm I'm I'm deviating back to to the original, like, the the topic of conversation. So you're you just mentioned the Fabian Society there, which, you know, Labour Party, Fabian Society, Tony Blair, and you've got Orwell on the front of your of your show's, cast. That's right. Well Orwell, whose real name was Eric Blair, who wrote about a dystopian future, who was under the the the tutorship or or or you know let's say the guidance of Aldous Huxley from the same establishment who was also spouting the same thing then we have things like you know Sigmund Freud's nephew, I forgot his bloody name though, who was you know basically thank you, Edward Bernays, who who used to, you know, explain how propaganda works and and and introduce that into the media and explain how that could manipulate people.
All of this to me is blatantly linked, you know, okay, maybe there's no maybe there's no relationship between Eric Blair and Tony Blair. Personally, I think there might be. I mean, it's a bit too much of a coincidence, but but I can't say that because I've not looked into it. But but all of that to me, you know, linking it to the Fabian society, which links into communism, which links into, you know,
[02:56:39] Unknown:
very very long. It's long in the making. It's long in the making. One other one other wonderful little quirk, I'm glad you've mentioned this at the end, is that 1984 is specifically that year because the Fabian Society was formed in 1884. Which which leads to what you were saying about that media, you know, the media article earlier in America. It's all linked. But even the Fabian Society started off on a good footing. I probably. I'm just gonna guess that it did, it doesn't all these little groups that have got that gain power that have, wealthy or highly intelligent individuals form them often start off with a good intent.
And it's a machine that comes to the attention of the of the disruptive class and they get their placement in there and bend it away from the key thing. Masonry is the same. Masonry was this collection of stonemasons.
[02:57:33] Unknown:
But even even then, and
[02:57:35] Unknown:
then they got bent away. And that's what they do, they bend it away to another agenda because they've got powerful competent people. That's, you know, if you form a society you're organized, you're competent, you can finance things, you can organize meetings. These things are skills which most people don't acquire in life. So they're immediately attracted to where there's a power center and then they immediately begin to corrupt it, like an honorably elected democratic government or any of the institutions that we've set up. Every single one gets tunneled into and warped away and then we say, well they're all bad, well they're not. It's a little bit more complex than that. But the overall design and purpose of these things now is to harm society at large and most of the people in it, just like in the media and law and all these areas we've talked about tonight, are fearful of their own life.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
Starts with their mind, so they can I I I don't even think it's that, mate? The reason they are now going hell bent for this agenda is because I think, genuinely, they're fee they fear losing control. That's that's what they really don't wanna lose. All of these you've just mentioned masonry there, and again, there's a lot of there's a lot of esoteric references that you can get from masonry, and it will it will it will broaden your outlook, broaden your perception, increase your understanding. It's not all bad, but, obviously, these things have come along and have been have been controlled from the inside out for people who want more money, more power, more control, they wanna elevate themselves in society, and the next thing, you know, it's been corrupted and controlled from an external source.
[02:58:57] Unknown:
You know? I I I agree. I I think there's all these threads, They're all present. I don't which is the main one. I don't really know. But I'm also of the view that the people that are behind all this would rather blow the world up and kill everyone than lose control. In their worldview, there is no future for the planet that does not include them as being in control of it. So any option that where they're not in control, they will wreak as much havoc as they can. And it's a bit like don't corner a rabid dog in an alley. Don't. Make sure it's got an escape route of some sort. We need a higher occult force to step in and do this, but we've got to show that we're worthy of it. I mean, you know, I've gone slightly tenuous there, but something maybe that we can't possibly anticipate right now, I would appreciate greatly coming on the scene to sort of put these things right
[02:59:49] Unknown:
and to get us sorted out in that particular way you know so. Can can I just sorry just before the the show ends can I just chip in there? Just meant an a you know an an occult force. People have got to get over this fear of the word occult. They've got to understand what it means. It's not what they think it is. It's not negative. It's not evil. It's just a word that refers to hidden information anyway. Just thought I'd chip in with that before the show ends. Ends. That's it. Well, I'm no doubt you'll be covering that a great deal up at your event. But, Seaton Terrace, fantastic.
[03:00:18] Unknown:
Eric and Nathan's been fantastic having you tonight. I've really enjoyed your show. Really loves. Yes. Yep. Been a lot of fun, a lot of good stuff. Thank you. Shout out to everybody in Rumble and YouTube chats for your valuable contributions. I've been cleaning them all. We've mentioned a few. If you wanna go to, Nathan's event, email him nathanlusiusphp@gmail.com. That's nathanlusiusphp@gmail.com. We'll be back again same time next week. Till then, have a jolly good time of it. Enjoy the lovely November weather. I'm told it's going to turn by a lady today who had a dog and was very serious with me. It's gonna be terrible, she said. And I told her to stop watching the TV as I mentioned earlier. Till then, keep great. We'll see you all same time next week. Bye for now, everybody. Bye bye. Ta ta. Bye bye.
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Well,
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hi, everyone, and welcome back. It's Thursday again. The weeks are definitely getting shorter, aren't they? They're certainly getting darker. The evenings are getting darker. Anyway, Paul English Live. We're here with you for the next two hours on WBN, a little bit longer elsewhere. This is episode 113, an inauspicious number, we hope not. Let's get the show started. It's been a good week for the mainstream media, particularly if you work at the BBC. I don't, by the way, although I have applied for a job. Well, hi everyone and welcome back. Yes, it's November 0 is it the thirteenth? It is. This is episode a 113 on November 13. That should help me remember things. I don't know quite why I need to remember all these things. Hope you've had a good week anyway.
As I said, there it's nice and gloomy and doomy outside here. Lots of rain, but it's been a beautiful day. It's been a beautiful day. Very warm this morning. Still got the shorts on, you'll all be very keen to know that, no doubt. And, I've been out for a little toddle, talked to people as I do as is my want. Lots of people very very pessimistic about the future weather forecast which is always really rather tedious to listen to them. One lady came up to me and said, oh, it's all going to turn and become terrible, she said. And I said, have you been watching that television again? You need to stop doing that. Just stop watching the television. They don't know what's going on, certainly not the BBC.
Anyway, for those of you who are not with us on Rumble and YouTube and a big shout out to everybody that's there already, hi chatters and, here we are on WBN, we're here every Thursday. But for those of you that can't see the video stream or today's image or you haven't found it or whatever, although you can see it at paulenglishlive.com, we've got a picture of mister Blair smoking a cigarette. Not no, not Tony Blair. Good grief. Good grief, we would never do anything quite so drastic as that. No, not Tony Blair. And, it's Eric Blair, who, everybody else would probably know more thoroughly as, George Orwell.
Mister George Orwell. And it's kind of just the starting theme for today's show because we're gonna be looking at mainstream media mendacity. I do like a little bit of alliteration as you can tell, so if you don't know what mendacity is you can go look it up but it basically means to be a conniving lying git. It's a bit strong I suppose what I put. But, certainly it's the heritage unfortunately, or fortunately for all of us, of the BBC which has, come to, come to great prominence this week. Because, those of you that have, been aware of it, I think Mr. Donald Trump, who's the president of The United States currently, last time I looked which was sometime this morning, he's a bit cross with the BBC.
And if you don't know what this is all about, because it's a really good recent example of all the mess here in the world, is that, the January 6 thing that took place a couple of years ago, the BBC kindly decided to edit the clip, of Mr. Trump speaking in such a way, and if you haven't seen it you need to look it up. Well, you don't need to but you might want to, you'll just have to take my word for it right now if you've not seen it. But they edited the clip in such a way, that it appeared that Mr. Trump was actually inciting everybody to violence. The BBC did this.
And apparently some people in certain quarters are shocked. Well, most of the Britons that pay attention aren't. I'm one of them. And another one who probably isn't too shocked about the whole thing would be, would be Eric von Essex who's obviously just rocked up. Eric, good evening. Welcome to the show. How are you?
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Good evening. I'm very well. Thank you. I've got a note from my parents. Sorry I'm late. Have you? And, yes. Noticed. Yes.
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Really?
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Well, the the the BBC line to us never. They they they're there for the truth, aren't they? I mean, we know they they wouldn't dare light us. You've only got watch that beautiful program called Question Time, where a sick bag isn't big enough. I think it is a dustbin. It's so contrived. It's beyond It's fucking adults acting as you know? A politician says something that I went all sort of clapping, you know? You know, they're giving everybody the clap. Sorry. I mean, then it's I find it childish. The entire BBC now is run by people that should be in a mental institution or in a private cell. As much particularly.
[00:08:11] Unknown:
Well, I think maybe the ones that have retired, that have just, or left, maybe applying for jobs in there. Although, I I read I can't remember the name. Davy, is it, or something that had cheese? He's bound to be signed up soon or whatever. But as I've mentioned here before, the BBC actually stands for the Bolshevik Brainwashing Corporation. And don't worry. We're not going to exhaust you all night by talking about the BBC because, really, we've explained their entire raison d'etre already, which is to, basically actually, I've got a quote from someone from a few years ago. I'll I'll bring it into the show a little bit later on. When I say a few years ago, I mean the eighteen hundreds, with regards to the mendacity in newspapers and the and the mainstream press at the time.
But, the BBC have got a a long record of this which, of course, they don't publish or they don't broadcast on their television stations, which is a bit of a surprise. I thought they wanted to keep us well informed and abreast of things. But it's a wretched organization, it really is, for all sorts of reasons. And I I, I was watching an interview with a guy a guy called, Rod Little, I think it is. I'll I'll I'll mulled his name. He writes for The Spectator. The Spectator may be a rag, by the way. This isn't mean to say I'm actually condoning it or whatever. But, I've seen him, around and about and I I saw an interview in the other day. I was gonna sort of play clips from it. It was a bit a bit long winded, in a way, really, for sort of a a clip during the show.
But he was talking to the interviewer about the caliber of the staff there at the BBC. And I think, Eric, it's probably fair to say that there isn't any caliber of staff left in it. And the whole place has been just tunneled out with, well, snowflakes to be quite honest. I mean, I I was reading a lot of the comments underneath the video. Many of them said, well, yeah, the news is terrible, but I don't watch it for the news, but the dramas are really good. And I thought, well, that's not true either to be quite honest. The whole place is so utterly mangled and is basically being used to sort of culturally hijack the brains of the Britons that that unfortunately choose to watch it from time to time. I mean, have you been watching any BBC dramas recently and been thoroughly entertained? I haven't.
[00:10:28] Unknown:
No. I can't because I haven't got a television anymore. But the thing is, I haven't had one for fifteen years. I don't meet. But what I what gets me with the, when I briefly look at the BBC, if I'm, say, standing in the bank and they got it blasting out at you on the screen, or I go to a friend's house where they got it on, is that, they use a lot of nudge in things. Yeah. These, you know, snudged things like Doctor Who, they've got leprechauns. Oh, sorry. Lesbians and things like that. And they know that children watch, Doctor Who. They're very keen on it. And they, there was, a couple of alien lesbians when I was went into my neighbor's house to fix something and, she had it on. I was thinking, what on earth is this rubbish all about? And it's all that kind of nudge to make things look as if they're normal when they're not.
[00:11:22] Unknown:
Yeah. And that is I'm just having a bit of a problem with your sound at the moment, Eric. Hang on. I don't know why. It's sort of fading in and out. Could you could you speak again or something? I don't know what's going on. Right. How's how's that? I'll have a look at my sound and try and do something No. We seem to be okay now. It's just going in and out a little bit. I think it's just slightly intimate. It's not too bad now. No. We just kind of lost you a little bit. But yeah. No. The thing about the, Sorry. Sorry. You're gonna say sorry, Paul. No. After you. After you, mate. Well, I was just gonna say that the thing about their dramas, and it is a bit of a drama watching one if I'm present because I get quite vocal about it. I can't oh, dear. You can just see basically over and over and over again with everything that they do that they've got this cultural agenda which they're seeking to get across.
And it's basically just an extension of the whole globalist thing. And I'm kind of glad that this event has happened, with regards to their it's absolutely so overt. They're tampering with Trump's speech. I mean, it's just inordinately it's criminal. And I I read something It is. I mean, I sound awfully outraged of the home counties. It's criminal. They we shouldn't this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes. But there's sort of things going on all the time with this organization because it's not it's not very British at all, to be quite honest. It should be the globalist Bolshevik, you know, brainwashing corporation, the GBC, really. Oh. And, yeah. Sorry?
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Well well, Orwell hated the BBC, and Room 101 was actually a conference room where he had to get is often grilled in the tedious meetings. And that's where the, show, Room 101 came from because, it was, from 1984, because he set that as his torture chamber in 1984. So, you know, and I mean and the weird thing with, I mean, that, photo you got actually, the the the caption for this, show is, George Orwell's real name was Eric Arthur Blair. Isn't that weird?
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Yes. And If it's so that we had, we had a we had mister Blair on. Yeah. The prime minister. Yes.
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Minister. Sorry. Minister. Yes. Or Monther. But, you know, but that's the weird thing. Because I really do believe people like Blair and Starmer and that, they're not normal. I don't know whether they're demonically possessed or what it is, but they are not normal. And this is one thing I think we look should look into because about thirty years ago when the BBC started to go really weird because the days when Bill Cotton junior was director general, things seem to be okay. And it seemed to go a bit weird at the sort of, shall we say, eighties to nineties.
And it went weirder as we went into the 02/09 '99,
[00:14:23] Unknown:
where it was I think ever since ever since Tony Blair became the prime minister, it started to go wonky. I, obviously, Doctor Who was a a kid's favorite back in the sixties and seventies. I was one of them. I quite liked Daleks and Cybermen and all that, and I quite liked Patrick Shrouton. Like Yeah.
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Right? That's right. And, did you did you build the BBs sorry, the, Blue Peter Dalek when they did it on the television?
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I don't think I did. I I was suffering from severe Dalek envy with my friend, Kevin, who had an entire Dalek outfit. I can't describe it. It was awesome. It was awesome when you're six and seven. Yeah? So basically, you you it was quite hefty and everything. It was almost like well, not life size. I suppose kiddie size. Right? It'd be about two thirds the size of the real thing. And you basically put it over you and it hung on your shoulders like with these sort of straps. And you had, you had a big pushy thing and you had a, an extermination thing, you know, whatever it is called. I don't know. And it was blue and the other shit. Yeah. It was great. I had the plunger. I had the sink plunger. That was really good, you know. Now I've got to unblock the sink. Yeah. So I never really got past that. I was always I couldn't believe that he had this and that I didn't have one. And then I didn't really find the Daleks particularly charming. I did find the Cybermen particularly menacing. I remember when I was a kid, I didn't like that too much. But I mean, our childhood, pathetic memories aside, it had a sort of coherent stupidity to it back then. And I used to love the idea really later on when I was a teenager. You see all the sets wobbling. They're all made out of cardboard and stuff.
And it was sort of ridiculous. Oh, shit. Shit. Isn't it?
[00:16:08] Unknown:
It was. Well, who'd ever thought it was a shrink plunger on a on a on a Dalek? And how do they climb years? But I've never first spiked Milligan's Daleks. Do you remember that one? Where, was it a a woman's bariatric or a Dalek? Good evening, darling. How did you get on today at work? My boss had a go at me. I exterminated him. Yeah.
[00:16:30] Unknown:
There was quite a bit of that, wasn't there? I mean, when when Star Trek rocked up, of course, it made Doctor Who I mean, from a sort of, you know, visual production value point of view because they had phases in Star Trek. That was the only bit that I liked about it. The rest of it just drove me bonkers, actually. I couldn't stand it. And, you know, Spock's ears. But anyway, I'm kind of drifting off the point a bit. The thing I was gonna come to was that when they rebooted it, the early the early ones, which I think they rebooted it in the nineties, didn't they, or something like that, they weren't too bad. They weren't actually that bad. And then they started to go wonky. They just started to get wonkier and wonkier.
And of course, it seems as though the actors that play it are given an instruction set that they've got to act as if, as if they're on speed or something. They're all kind of stupidly manic. Most of them would get overexcited about things and have to run around. I suppose they just put energy into the show. I don't really know what it was. But I found it all really rather rather tiresome and exhaustive. And I've often thought that the plots were so ludicrously crap all the time. I'm serious. They're just lame. Really, really bad stuff. I could never really sort of take it seriously. It was just sort of something that was on. But I think, I don't know who the current one is. Don't they have an African playing Doctor Who or something now? And prior to that they had a woman.
I don't care. I mean, I'm not even bothered.
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Not. Yeah. I bet she was I bet she was a lesbian, though. They've always gotta be a lesbian. They've always gotta bring one of those Latin as well. You're so biased. So it's gotta be a multicultural lesbian, one legged lesbian on I don't know. Yeah. It's it's always the same old crap in it that they they would we're out. But these people are who get into this senior management, they are mentally ill. They shouldn't be there. And there is I I really do believe that the problem we have is not recognizing psychopaths in senior positions. Because if you had any experience of psychopaths, they think completely different to humans. Not all of them. Not all, but the predatory ones.
And as I've often said, until we find a way of separating the predatory psychopaths from the rest of humanity, we'll always have this nonsense, and we'll always have wars because they are their brain is completely wired differently to ours. We will never understand them. They understand us, alright, and they know how to pull the strings and know how to hypnotize susceptible people. That is the big problem. That's where they got the advantage where they can be in a minority. They've
[00:19:05] Unknown:
they've definitely got them there. I think I think another part of it is that there's, like, you know, like, all the woke people sort of congregate together a bit like scum around the plughole and stuff like this. There's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of it. It's literally a totally leftist and wokeist organization. It's sort of it didn't used to be. I think what they were saying was that this sort of this hellish version of it, the latest iteration, began about 2015. I don't know. There must have been some change in senior staff there. Not that I'm sort of holding my breath and waiting for it to get good again, whatever I might mean by that. I suppose it was just that the brainwashing was at least a little bit more civilized and more palatable in the past. Today, possibly it's a good thing that it's so unpalatable you can't watch it, which is great. But but it's full of people that have basically been you've mentioned this before. It seems to me lots of them have never really had it difficult in life and they've swum through university or whatever.
The BBC is flooded with money because it pilfers it from everybody's pockets at the rate of what is it, £15 a month for a TV license? Something like that, I think, these days.
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They've even read stories. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a talent.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, even if you did, you shouldn't have a TV license. It's rich coming from me. I've I'm sort of ambivalent about what to do. I've said before that, if we're gonna really defund the BBC, it needs to be done en masse in a huge blow one Monday morning. That'd be interesting. You know, I mean, like, half a million people just suddenly stop paying it are currently paying it. That would just bring it you know, stop its gears grinding, I would have thought. But everything that they've done is to be in line with this sort of globalist culture that they're trying to create. And trying is the opposite operate operative word because that's all they're gonna keep on doing is trying to do that and failing miserably, because there's no root to it. It's I think it's why so much is so flimsy. I think this guy Rod Liddell was saying that they seem to have an obsession with transvestites and drag queens. I not that I would know. I don't watch it at all anymore. I know that there've been lots of dancing things which the ladies love on a Saturday night. I'm not against that. If it's charming or whatever, you know, it's not my cup of tea, but good grief. You've got to fill a schedule up with something.
But overall, it's it's very lame. I mean, the the the level of comedy that's on it, as far as I can discern well, there isn't one anymore. There there's nothing sort of in there that's useful to anybody. So I I think this news thing coming out, is really good, actually. I think it needs to be kicked in the nudges of this organization. Of course, I'm not alone. This is not a sort of, a brilliant position that I'm taking. I'm sure many many listeners here share if you're in the in Britain, you'll probably share a similar view, many more than I've ever done before. And and if if Trump does sue it, I think it was something to the tune of a billion dollars. Well, go on then. Smash it up. I don't care. It doesn't represent us anyway. I mean, who are we going to lose the BBC? What do you mean we haven't got it? It doesn't work for us anyway. So good. The government Yeah.
[00:22:08] Unknown:
Yeah. But the government but the government will bail it out because, BBC is an integral part it is a propaganda machine, yes, but also it's part an integral part of the military, and people don't realize that. That's the thing. Mhmm. And it started going to its up in Lord Burt, that was John Burt started. I remember. He was director general from 1999 to 2000. And Greg Dyke, what I what I served, Dyke. Those two screwed it unbelievably. They just screwed it up. And as I say, from 1992 onwards when law Burt or yeah. He's a law now. Mhmm.
John Burt became director general. It went straight down the toilet from there on. So Yeah. I think that but you see the thing is, the BBC, it works hand in glove with the secret services. So it will carry on. Yes. And they want their people to pay to be brainwashed. That's exactly what they're doing. They're being they're paying to be brainwashed all the time. And they've tried to they've tried to turn it down by calling it aunt auntie BBC and things like that. I mean, look at that, rubbish they have there. It's coming up soon, is it? Pudsey bear thing. What is it? Children in need. Oh, yeah.
[00:23:29] Unknown:
What's that? Is that is that correct? Yeah. What is that red nose day thing or whatever? It there's something repellent about that. There always has been. I I found all these sorts of big sort of fundraising things that they do. And you get all these celebs rock up. They're all sort of slapping each other on the back. And you just go, there's something stomach churningly disgusting about this. They're also self congratulatory about stuff. And no one ever gives you a report about how much money finally ends up helping people out. The helping people out. The the thing about these large scale organized charities, I guess we're going slightly away from the point but it's still relevant, is that we have no way of knowing. I mean, the way that charity should actually work should be on a very local basis. And if you see someone in trouble and you can help them, help them. If you can, it's a good thing to do. Really is. I mean, I'm always giving fivers to a few guys that are sleeping in the doorways around here.
Cost me about 5 I'm a bit of a similar ill. But I'll do it. I won't give them a tenner because I know I just think it's too much. But if I've got a fiver, maybe inflation means next year it will be a tenner that I'll give them. But if I've got it and I'm feeling sort of okay and I'm not under any I'll I'll give it to them. I'm not gonna imperil everything, you know. My budgets are tight, Eric. My budgets are tight. But I don't need extra money to do stuff. And if they wanna go off and get a beer, they're welcome to it. I don't really mind but, you know, so and some of them, they're really decent people. You just say and I don't know their backstory and I guess I don't really wanna know because it'll break me up. But they've obviously so they're not all drug addicts and I know the ones that are because down here, it being a seaside town, there's, there are there's a couple of the sort of seating areas that and there's two particularly that I think on a Saturday afternoon, it's sort of like the the town drunks are all there. They're like in a big gang, you know. There's about seven or eight of them. And, they seem to have at least they've got companionship as they drink themselves to death.
I you know, there's no point me talking to them that is too far gone with all that. I'm talking about these other people I just see from time to time. Isn't that how it's supposed to really work? It seems to me anyway. So put some back in. Get trashed, Frankie.
[00:25:35] Unknown:
Yeah. But I don't really believe he's being anyway, so because we should, yeah, we should live in a society that does not have people sleeping rough. Or if they are sleeping rough, they're doing it out of their own volition. They've got a choice to do it. Mhmm. And quite honestly, you and I grew up in a time when there was no housing shortage. And suddenly, in the late seventies, early eighties, they started to become a housing shortage. Surprise, surprise. And then when Blair came in, they they when the gates were opened even further to allow any de Comte de Conte in this country, there became a massive housing shortage. But in the sixties and seventies, there was not a housing shortage.
And this is the thing with with charity. To me, these big charities are there similar to a military charity, which I won't name, that was set up in 1921. Again, that was a propaganda agency to take the heat off government, and that's all it does. Yeah. So the gov government can screw us even more, to pay the usury scammers and get away with it whilst people are living rough and poor, which to me is is is is disgusting. And I'm similar. I will not give a penny to charity unless I go into a charity shop, and then I'll part my pay for something if I want. But, sorry. I always pay for almost everything. I don't I don't know what I mean by that. You don't nick it. He's a that's okay. A charity shop. I don't nick it. Yeah. That's what I've been getting. But when I see a a chat, Paul, Saul, that's down out. I mean, I actually gave to a chat last year. Freezing cold day, and he's just sitting there.
And I gave him some money, and he's in a very posh voice. Thank you so much, sir. It's very kind of you. Look. And this chat was extraordinary, I think. I think it's it's just fallen on hard times. And it what gives me the amount of young people that are are out of, haven't got a home. And they're English. And they're often mainly Spanish as well. That, to me, is horrendous. Shouldn't be. What the hell's going on? That, you know, there's always been tramps, but Yep. They, years ago, were tramps because they wanted to be tramps. Not now, you know. And, that's really what angers me.
[00:27:56] Unknown:
Can I just twiddle your technical trousers one more time? So Certainly. What's happening? You were a bit muffled and we've got you clear, but your volume's dropped off. Is there any way you can raise your volume at your end?
[00:28:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Sure. I'll just raise the volume. I'll do it again. It's dropped down again. There we are. How's that? Is that is that up again? Is that alright? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Just leave it at that. I'm just gonna throttle you down a bit here at this point too fab. That's good. Yeah. It's actually throttled down on its own because I actually put the volume up. I'm playing with it at this end as the actress said to the bishop. I am. Oh, really? We we don't get into that. Yes. I don't like playing with it. Yeah. Right. How's that? Is that better?
[00:28:38] Unknown:
Yeah. That's way better. Sorry about everyone, but we've no. We could hear you. I could hear you okay, but there was definitely something crazy going on. So we've got a cleaner system. Keep an eye on that.
[00:28:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'll keep the window open with the volume, control, and I'll I'll, I'll, what, keep an eye on it all the time because there's something really weird going on, you know.
[00:29:00] Unknown:
Anyway, that's that's my understanding. What you just said as well. I was I just wanted to dovetail what you just said there about, the military and the sort of security agencies, you know, using the BBC as a conduit for propaganda all the time. But we had a we had a fun little outing, didn't we, on Tuesday morning this week when we got together to to cover remembrance day. And, that's my little segue because we're going into the military thing there as well. But I, I really enjoyed myself. If you haven't caught it, it's up on my channel. It might be up on Eric's channel. I don't really know. But we had a good little time of it there. I I, I really enjoyed it a lot. Probably more than I should have done because, I'd had a nice cup of tea for breakfast. I was I felt very relaxed because it gets late at night here. The gloom sets in and I've had too much whiskey before and stuff. I haven't actually. I don't drink whiskey at all. I don't drink. But, you know, it it was it was great to to go over that kind of stuff. And in a way, it does tap into this because, you know, if we look at the whole history of propaganda I know we we mention it. We come around to this topic probably maybe in every show even for only a few minutes.
But the beginning of it really at the be you know, with regards to the mechanical version of propaganda in the early part of the twentieth century, certainly with World War one, certainly with Edward Bernays, and certainly with him, you you know, that quote we mentioned a few weeks ago that this marshalling of the public opinion is the great hidden government that's over people. And in our case, the BBC is one of the great conduits of this guff. So that's our that's our little thread because certainly, you know, they can't get their wars organized properly without without the BBC, without its approval, you see? That's right.
[00:30:47] Unknown:
And when I worked there, I've been so I worked there. I was there on a space. It wasn't permanent. And how I got in there, the agent that got me in there was a freemason. And it was very, very masonic, and you you would go up to and all the team people are freemasons. And you got to the photocopy machine. There's all masonic literature all around there. I said, what the bleeding hell is this? And the secretaries used to, do the masonic work for well, I don't mean to be funny to that, but, you know, they used to type up all kinds of weird mud of all things to their masonic meetings. And there were people in senior positions who were sons of bigwigs who didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing. And that was the real matter. And the other thing is that, when I worked there and I didn't sign the official eight secrets act, so I can probably say this, I did some work on, a transmitter station, and that was, you know, doing all the sort of architecture for it. But then also worked on, a project that I never went there that was on an island somewhere.
And, it was a listening post for the RAF. So they work hand in glove with the military, and that's all I can re I I I wanna live a few more years on this Earth, so that's all I'll say. Even though I did sign the the, official secrets act. And it's one of these projects where if you wanted to know, given our you know, wanted to know a certain part of the building, you had to put write it down what the information you wanted, and it's, you're already given the information that you need to know. It's a need to know basis. And they come back with a question, why do you need to know this? And I'll say, well, because of dicks, y, zed. And it would take you about a bleeding week to find out why a beam is going across a certain area and things like that. And, where this memo went to is, your guess, as good as mine. But it was something to do with the RAF that I was dealing with. And, again, as I say, I never signed his feat secret official secrets act. I was just an ordinary contract bloke doing a doing a bit of architecture there in a place called Henrywood House, which is opposite, Broadcasting House, where there's that famous sculpture of, a pedophile,
[00:33:03] Unknown:
which I used to actually post every day, and I didn't even notice it. Yes. That's right. Gil. The Yes. The guy that created Gil sans, an extremely elegant font, or at least I used to say that in the eighties before I knew his backstory. But he was yeah. It seems to me as though it's historically been a haven for perverts. The BBC. I mean, it's Oh, crumbs. Eric Gill goes back a long way, doesn't he? Isn't that nineteen twenties or something?
[00:33:30] Unknown:
And things like this? I think so. But when I worked there, there's loads of it's like a family of people Mhmm. That have been there since they left school and never had any other job in their life. And as I say, they do work hand in glove with the military, I'm pretty sure. You know, that that that I mean, for example, there's and I can say this for a fact, that, and I didn't find this out when I worked there, but I found this out since on the Internet. There's a broadcasting place in Wales, and during the Cold War, if all else failed, this place would broadcast.
So if there's a civil war in this country, they would still broadcast a BBC from a secret location.
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What? Right. So there we go. Well So, Well, I'm sure they've got a lot of plans to do. In glove with the military. Yes. Yeah. They must be. They must be. I think, something just ran through my head and it ran out the other ear. Bugger. Can't remember what it was. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. It was really just to do with this being come back. No. No. No. I've got it. It was really just to do with this whole, the the caliber of the people or the the dark underbelly of the BBC, which Yes. You know, as time goes by and more researchers look at it, you realize that there's just this long history of entertainers, let's call them that, being corrupted, being drawn into something dark.
And it's not necessarily in recent times. And, you know, the the big one, of course, that still rings around to this day is Jimmy Savile, and rightly so. Very, very strange man in all sorts of ways. Very, very strange. He had a very strange relationship with his mother because he was, apparently a very sickly child but managed to survive. So she sort of conferred almost like a a saintly status upon him as if he was a miracle. So he grew up hearing all this kind of stuff. And he is very I mean, it's just a very strange life. He's a very strange man. I was listening to an investigative reporter earlier about it today. I wasn't even looking for this stuff but I thought obviously it dovetails into what we're talking about. That's twice I've said dovetails. I'm gonna have to stop doing that. People think I'm a carpenter. He, you may know he was a miner. He used to go work down the pit. Right?
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That's right. No. He was a bevin boy, wasn't he?
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Yeah. But he would dress strangely going down the pit. Apparently, he would dress in an odd way and and marked himself out as very distinct distinctively different. Then he fell in with some mobsters in Manchester. Of course, when I was a kid, the idea of mobsters in England was just strange. I thought that only took place in America. This is when I was, you know, eight or something. But this is England. We don't do that sort of thing, do we? Apparently, we do. And, even then he was known to beat people up. I know he talked about this at clubs and stuff. That's right. So, he had a temper on him about stuff and he was pretty fit, I suppose, and being a minor.
And there is something kind of the more you look at him, if you not that you would want to anymore now. I guess it's almost impossible to look at clips of him without having your your skin crawl because of what a creep he is. But the what he was saying was that this he had connections with other. There's a lot of evidence to suggest he had connections with lots of other serial killers. There's evidence to suggest that he knew the Moors murderers, Myra Hindley and that other wretched piece of genetic mistake. I can't can't remember his name. That he bumped into these people in and around mountains and forests. And,
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Yorkshire Ripper?
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Well Yorkshire Ripper as well. Well, the the here's a really strange thing. I mean, I did sort of know this, but I just got the details flashed back into my head listening to this thing this morning, which was that, do you remember I don't know if you remember. A body, one of Sutcliffe's victims, was found in Savile's Garden. Did you know that?
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Are you there, Eric? Know that. I really didn't know that.
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Yeah. I You're still here? Are you still there? Well, I know that a body was found in a garden, but I think at the time, they never really pushed this side of it. Certainly according to this investigative report by the way, I can't back this up. This is what I heard earlier today. So there may be listeners out here, certainly on Rumble and YouTube, who know more about this in details. I'm I'm scanning the chat. But he said it's almost like they've got some kind of related weird club, a strange club between them. And it was almost like an offering or a trophy for Savile or something weird. And they're definitely unhinged. There is a sort of an unhinged group of people. They're probably, unfortunately, still these sorts of people sitting around, I'm afraid. But yeah.
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But they they reckon he was the mister fix it because that's a show at Jim Will Fix It. Excuse my language. It's a bit of a piss take. Because you notice he would say words three times, and that's to do with magic or stuff. Because I did hear that he was the seventh sun, which is something weird, seventh sun of the seventh sun. I haven't looked into it, I don't know how true it is. I know that, John Purway was. He was a but I I wouldn't link him to Jimmy Savile because there's nothing nasty, you know. He's he seemed to have a very good life. But with Jimmy Savile, you would say now then, now then, now then. What's that three times? And those strange noises he made, he he was very, very, very odd. But, what got me was he was good friends, with that fat liberal bloke. What was his name now? Cyril Smith. Another one. Cyril Smith. Yes. Famous for hang gliding, wasn't he? No. Cyril Smith, the MP for Leeds or somewhere, I think it was. And, he was Rochdale. Peter Farrell as well.
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That's it. MP for Rochdale. Yeah. Rochdale. Absolutely. I mean, a reply got that wrong observation. They've got some kind of you know, my thing is, you know, you can look at certain guys, and I think you can tell really, really quickly. They're they're people that if you shook their hand, their hands would be sweaty and cold. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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I know exactly what you're talking about. And and that that is actually my father had a thing about handshakes. And if someone gave him a limp handshake, he'd never trust the person. I'm the same. My brother would have had a limp handshake. And and, I mean, my dad would look you straight in the eye and shake your hand really hard. And he he he drummed that into me from a childhood. He's you always and people will go after a shaking their hand, you know, because I was shaking their hands so hard. But, my brother-in-law, for example, it was like a wet clipper gun in in I've seen my dad's face the first time my future brother well, my my my sister's future husband shook hands on my dad, and it was so lit it was unbelievable.
And, there's a lot like that. And he said, you can tell a man by the handshake. And he was right. I think he was right. I think you can. I guess you're I guess you were brought up in a similar way.
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Well, I think so. I mean, I know some people yeah. I was to a degree. Yeah. You know people that really shake your hand. I don't trust that either. It's like, look. Just
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there's a level. Some people are like showing up. I'm gonna crush your hand. Stop that. Right? Just pat it as well. Firm and look here in the face. I'm solid, but some people go over the top with it. And when they go over the top, that means there's something that that that that they're acting it.
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It's interesting. You read someone so fast just from a handshake. Yeah. Yeah. We do. We've got a bit of lag between us, Eric, just to let you know. But don't worry. I think we're It's, Yeah. We've got overlap taking place here on your Internet connection. I think This is weird going on. Open. Yeah. If you if you've got anything else open on your machine, shut everything else down because it isn't alright. Okay. I I didn't think you did, but I just thought I'd say it like a a baby. Some anyway, some interesting comments coming. One's now just worth a quick No no apps. No. That's okay. That's okay. You don't need to it's not a roll call. I just thought I'd mention it.
Billy Silver writes just going back a few minutes from when we're talking about charities. He says, a lot of chatter about Bono and Bob Geldof and lost funds, wouldn't surprise me at all. Bonio. Bonio, of course. Yeah. Those people. And, also writes that it has been said that Jimmy Savile's mother made a satanic bargain that baby Savile survived. You know, there's definitely something strange going on. How did this guy from, you know, working down a pit end up hanging out with royalty and all these other people and being completely safeguarded by them? There's something very odd taking place there, obviously.
Harvey, number one, shout out. By the way, I don't shout out everybody's name because I'll miss them out. So it's just a shout out to all of you. Otherwise, it's rude if if I don't say your name. I'm bound to not I'm bound to miss a few out. Harvey, number one, writes, it says, my wife was in the same room as the Yorkshire Ripper, Jimmy Savile, and the Queen. All at the same time? At the same if I mean, I'll post pics to Telegram later. Well, I Wow. Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Yeah. Amazing. I hope you obviously, your mum did fine and came out as well. Interesting.
It is. Yeah.
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Well, late Dave Starbuck, you're sorry. Carry on, mate. I'm gonna
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try and allow for this. We're gonna say lag.
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Okay. I could I could, come out and come back in again. That might be a better idea. Do that at the break. I was gonna say, Jake, you're gonna take a break. He was an independent judge. We'll take a break in about twenty minutes. I reckon we'll do that. So do it at the break. So I'm gonna be quite you you have a chat now. You just have a few words. It's okay. We'll bumble through. Well, what I was gonna say is, Dave Starbuck, the late great Dave Starbuck, he was, he he used to talk revelation text in the nineteen eighties. And it sounds like a religious group, but it wasn't. He was before the Internet, interviewing people, telling the truth.
And Mhmm. He was an independent journalist. And, to be in when he's it was, before that must have been eighties. And he said before all news about Jimmy Savile broke, people he was the, you know, he was the, glibber in the BBC's eye. He could do no wrong. And at that time, people said, oh, he's marvelous, and all this, that, and the other. A nurse came to see day day Starbuck and told him that, she, caught Jimmy Savile red handed in the mortuary of the hospital where she worked, and she told him a lot about Jimmy Savile. And when she walked out the door he screwed the piece of paper out and shucked it in the bin because he got quite a few wackos coming that would give, you know, strange stories. And he thought, oh, this is too far fetched.
Well, then the news broke several years later about Jimmy Savile, and he realized what that nurse was saying was correct. And he tried to contact her again, but unfortunately she had passed away. And that thing was a big regret that he had in his life, and he said he really felt guilty about that. He said, well, he's asked about a white bitch. At the time, it said it's so outrageous that he said, you know, you get so many cranks come along telling you these outrageous stories like, you know, I was captured by aliens on the number 37 bus and all that sort of stuff. He said that, you know, you you you had to have some meat on the bone. Well, he said she was telling the truth.
And, he used to mess around in the, mortuary, and I won't go into specific details, and he didn't, but I should imagine. But apparently when his mother died, he sat in the same room as her for about a couple of hours and talking to her. So,
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you know, very I heard horrific stories about him in mortuaries. There are horrific stories about him floating around. You I mean, you don't know whether it's just sort of like, you know, garden fenced, you know, Chinese whispers getting amplified. But there's there's definitely something very odd about, a working bloke hanging out with royalty. That, I mean, that that in itself. I'm a working bloke and I never hung out with him. Not that I would accept an invite. You know, and you only have to look at the history of Mountbatten. He was a, you know, a kiddie fiddler. And that's why he deservedly got blown up by the IRS. That's right. Of course, it wasn't reported like that by the BBC. It was devastating terrorist attack. But because the actual news of it is that, you know, he was preying on innocent children as was Ted Heath. So the whole of the the whole of the sort of power structure here is is like that. You know, I heard something else as there was another little interview.
I was I was just scouring a few things yesterday and this sort of popped up. Now I've forgotten the you'd know the name of him. And I've forgotten his name unfortunately. A detective over here has suffered a lot because of his inquiries. He's he's he's well known in this alternative information space and and he's a good interviewer. I know the fella. I know the fella you mean. Yes. I can't think of his name either.
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Oh, I'm just not. We'd hit that a, Jerry. If you've been to him, I I I would know it know it. Yes. We're having a senior moment. You know? Yeah. But whilst we try and think of it, because I'll I'll I'll I'll say the same gag as I said last. I think it was on, the remembrance day. You know, Mount Button, he suffered from dandruff. Why? Because they found his head and shoulders on the beach. Yes. Terrible, innit? That's an awful gag. But, no. I think that's I think that's I believe they're all black malleable by the usury scammers.
And they're that way inclined. Yes. They go into public school, and I'm not saying all public schools are weird, but every person without foul that I worked with that went to public school had psychiatric problems, very severe psychiatric problems, and had to see psychiatrists. So there is something weird about public schools. But again, I'm not saying all public schools. But public school in Great Britain means something different in America. And what it means in this country is like an elite school where the elites send their children. They're very expensive. They're not what they where the average person goes to. But, you've only gotta watch what Sewell says. You know remember that chap Sewell who was an artist?
He's dead now. And Yeah. He said that, you know, homosexuality in public school was all sort of well, it's almost as if you had to do it and was accepted. Most of them were. If they weren't when they went in, they certainly were when they came out.
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Yep. You know? Yeah. So You don't so don't send your son I'm not saying that. If you if you value the quality of your son's spirit, it's not good. Of course, Brian Sewell was one of them, wasn't he? He spoke in that way. Brian Sewell. And he he was the art critic, and he spoke like the in that very affected way. I remember reading something actually from a US, secret agent, a US secret agent. I I can't give you his name, it was an interview, talking about who were the most dangerous people out there. And he talked about this type of English public schoolboy as being one of the most dangerous. And I think he's right. That there's something psychologically they get warped so early on in life. And it may be that they've sort of rolled the similar model out in The States using different, you know, techniques, MK Ultra and all this kind of stuff. There's something that basically turns them strange and they're not connected up properly. I'm not saying that they were born that way, but there's there's definitely something very very dark about power structures. And it's because I suppose they're so mature now in terms of they've been going for hundreds and hundreds of years. They've refined these techniques of breaking people down and controlling them. And it's it's horrific stuff.
And Savile, therefore, you know, led a protected life because he'd been supplying these people with children. And he had a lot of he had a lot of stuff back on them, no doubt. So he, you know, he was, he's not someone that they could just necessarily take out, I assume. I I don't really know. He must have had protection from other areas as well. He was serving other purposes. No doubt the whole thing is is disgusting. But this policeman that I was mentioning, whose name I can't remember, was just talking about this is sick as well. So we'll get all the sickness out here.
He was talking about, people that live on narrow boats in London, on canals and things. Loads of them are pedophiles. And, this it was I what? Yeah. So when I say loads, I don't mean the majority of them. It's just that it's a known sort of lifestyle that they lead. And they have all these sort of signaling systems using model fiction, figures of action men or baby girl dolls to signal what they're into. And it's it's really very scary stuff. So this is a very I think it's that thing that when they have these perversions, they become very skilled at lying like a psychopath would. It's just second nature because they they they realized early on they had to do that, otherwise they'd get beaten to a pulp. But they become so good that they fail to get detected and they move in a certain way. And so Savile, no doubt, was absolutely wrapped up in that. The BBC are involved in covering for him.
Cliff Richard, there's lots of stories about Cliff Richard crying his eyes out because all this, that, and the other, and all sorts of stuff. It links him with the it links him with Lord Boothby, another one of them who was hanging around with the Kraze in the sixteenth century. Yes. Lord Boothby. Yes. It's seedy beyond belief. I mean, and that most of them are sort of, as you said, they're sort of public school boy toffee nosed puffters. You know? It's that's really what happens, and they're dangerous. Yes. And I think Do not be
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ripped. But be that's right. But being ripped away from your mother at an early age, I think that Mhmm. Does something to a person's mind. Because when you look at all these troubled communities, the child is next to the mother all the time until they are a high toddling age, and they're still around their parents. Well, as we were, I mean, we you come over to school and your mom's there, and she's cooking, and she would always there. We weren't actually key kids. But, the, public school boys ex public school boys I work with, one of them told me that as a public school we went to, they had put food out. Now his parents dumped him in a public school, I think, when he was about six or seven, very young Right. Because he lived in Beirut.
They were English, but what they were doing in Beirut was in body's kit, because that is drugs capital or or was it done smiling or something to Beirut. But, anyway, when the store and he said, what do they do? They put, just enough food there or there'd be less one serving. And he said, it's like a scrum to get food, and that is like a survival of the fittest. He said, and they need it really unpleasant so that you would it would toughen you up. All the times you had to take cold baths and things like that, freezing cold in the winter, just to toughen you up.
And that was the been what I suppose in the sixties he was talking about.
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Your Internet connection's finally given up, Eric. In fact, just to let you know, everybody, not only has it given up, it's he's been spontaneously and maybe you're slightly relieved because his signal was getting very, very bad. What should I do? He was spontaneously kicked out of the studio. How about that? So he's currently not present. But not to worry. I'm gonna bumble along a little bit. After the break, which is coming up in about six or seven minutes time, we've got a, couple of songs lined up for tonight as we usually do. We will be joined by Nathan Lucius and possibly one other.
And Nathan's patiently waiting in the side wings in the studio. So I have seen you, Nathan. Don't worry. I'm completely aware of it. But we'll bring you on just after the break, which was the little sort of plan or structure for the show, and maybe Eric will will reappear back in it. Just to get lots of cracking comments, of course, in both Rumble and YouTube chat. Shout out to all of you as usual. Comment here again from Harvey number one. Mountbatten was most likely blown up by his own. IRA bond making skills were largely exaggerated. Well that's an I'd not heard of that, but now that you mention it, maybe that would be a good way.
Maybe he'd become a liability internally and so they do that and then blame the IRA. They would be a good scapegoat. But I hadn't I I'm I'm not really up to speed in all this stuff. It's such a sordid and repellent area. You do feel sort of, downgraded if you spend too much time reading this stuff. I certainly do. It's not that I don't want I'm aware that it goes on. I don't want to become sort of a world expert at it. How it's to be stopped is another question altogether. Obviously they've managed to be able to place themselves in positions which appear to be sort of impervious to public prosecution in so many ways.
And yet I think we have to see this as a common thread. It certainly is a common thread in all these areas. I don't know whether it affects the high level bankers, but it wouldn't surprise me. Wasn't there an interview a few years ago with, I think it was that Dutch banker. I'm sorry that I can't remember their names. Does it matter? You'll be familiar with who I'm referring to. He was a guy that was brought into the highest levels of finance and slowly but surely, he was being invited to certain parties and, informed that if his career was to go any higher he had to get involved in certain rituals. And I think Eyes Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick is not far wider than mark at all.
Of course Kubrick died, I think, before the film was actually fully released. There was a private screening and, it was his last film. And then he, what was it? A very large heart attack. I don't know what physical shape he was in. He was obviously a hardworking man. Very interesting guy, I think, Kubrick for all sorts of reasons. Really a maker of some astonishingly good films. 2,001 of which in my view is not one of them. How about that? I've never really enjoyed 2,001 but that's because I I'm not really a fan of Arthur c Clarke either. Found it all a little bit sort of forced that. But some of his other films are absolutely fantastic.
Brilliant stuff. Great sense of pacing. Still I'm still yet to see Barry Lyndon, which I've been told we've discussed it here before, to get on with that. But, yeah, he came to grief, I think just after the end of that the filming of Eyes Wide Shut. So I think many of the procedures are in there are probably the similar sort of space that people like Saville and all the others that we've mentioned over the last half hour, and there's quite a few unfortunately, have probably been involved with. Probably there's a I would imagine someone's probably drawn a big sort of pie chart or a big sort of flowchart of all these connections between the underworld and, the overworld as it were. And it it I think it's one of the principles in Masonry, it might not necessarily be Masonry but I've certainly read this stuff and maybe some of you have come across this as well, that they seek to control both sides of of life.
So they're involved with the underworld as we now know it, mobsters. They're involved there. And they're also involved in running the courts. And there's a big sort of, I don't know, mutual back scratching business taking place. So, I remember years ago, I've mentioned this before, but when I was undergoing my rapid learning about the true structure of banking in the mid nineties, I remember on several, sort of train journey not train journeys, car car trips around London when when we're going to meetings and stuff like that. Sounds awfully swish. I only did this about three or four times, so it's nothing sort of grandiose. It's not like on Wall Street. It was all kind of humdrum in a way. But, I it was pointed out to me on one occasion, there was a street. And I was informed, by the chap that was teaching me all this stuff that there were dungeons there where the judges go and they, enjoy their s and m sessions or whatever it is that they get up to. This stuff, and it seems to me, must be an offshoot of of their upbringing at the public schools, which is what Eric was just talking about, before he suddenly disappeared. So I think, you know, the whole of the intertwinements there. And this probably explains to a another degree, you know, why the mainstream media being embedded with these sorts of people is literally an untrustworthy source.
There's, I think I might have mentioned it last week as well, it's just reminding me of a few things. You might not have caught it but Liz Truss, I'm just on repetition mode here but these things are worth repeating, she was just interviewed by the Daily Express the other week, about fifteen minutes. It's good. Forget what you might think about Liz Truss, what she says is accurate and true from my from my playbook anyway. And, again she's talking about the nature of of who's managing and really running the nation in that particular way. So, and if they're all involved with this stuff is it any surprise really? Is it any surprise it should not be any surprise that democracy is a futile sort of gesture, you know, voting for these people to get them involved and and do all these sorts of things. Anyway, we're just coming up to the end of the hour here, and I've just been covering it. Eric has, disappeared for a while, he may come back.
After this song which I'm gonna play, we will, Nathan will be joining us in the studio and hopefully won't be having similar sound problems. I think there's quite a there's a lot of it about this, wonky Internet stuff at the moment and, I think it could be might not just be Internet connections. There's all sorts of little things. Anyway, I've got a couple of songs lined up by Van Morrison. We might have played them at some point before over the last couple of years but they're appropriate for tonight. This first one's called Educating Archie, it's about five minutes long so you can put the kettle on or do whatever you want. And after this we'll be back here with Nathan Lucius. Educating Archie this one. How about that?
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You're a slave to the capitalist system, which is ruled by the global elite.
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I
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feel this had with so much propaganda. Entertaining on TV
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Van Morrison there with Educating Archie. So if your name's Archie, that song was specifically for you. And, anyway, here we are. Welcome Welcome back to part two, Paul English Live here on WBN three two five. Our last hour on WBN, as I said, the show rolls on. And, Eric has rejoined us. We also have Nathan Lucius in the studio. So I'll start off with Nathan Hello. Nathan first. Oh, hi, Eric. Hello. Let's see. What do you sound like now? Do you sound lovely? Hello?
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You do? I hope so. I've rebooted the computer, literally, and I've I'm booting it out a window, and it's all come it's all been this it's all deconbobulating. It's all sort of righted itself for some unknown reason. Because as I was in mid sentence, the thing just went off, and that was it. So I'm sorry, folks. Sorry about that, but, that's life. Blame, mister Gates of
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of, what do you call it, micro crap. Sorry, Mike. Well, I think we can get into that a little bit, you're saying. No. I I I think we can blame him for a bit. But, anyway, Nathan's joined us in the studio. Good evening, Nathan. How are you this fair evening? And fingers crossed you're not having the similar sort of sound problems that Eric's been having.
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No. I'm not. But, there there has been a bit of an abusive, abusive bit of, you know, behavior in a close relationship of mine. Well, I mean, you know, there's Eric booting his computer and there's me, accidentally, throwing my phone at walls and stuff, and and it seems to have done the trick this time. It's dead.
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So
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Was that accident. Accident. So, I mean, I'd say I'm I'm, you know, a bit upset about it. I'm not my phone was an asshole. It needed to go. I think I think it just needs to I don't know. I'll have a look at it and see see what we can do about it. But, yeah, it's it's giving up the ghost. What a shame. Anyway, hi.
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Hi. Yeah. We're all very sad about your about your smartphone loss. I am. I'm I'm weeping a little bit here.
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Yeah. It is. It's it's quite tragic. Yeah. Yeah. I'd I'd ask for a funeral, but it doesn't deserve one. I mean, the only thing it does deserve is, is it I don't know, a wood chip or a blender, a good good bonfire maybe. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not fussy.
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I nearly bought a new one myself this week, but I managed to resist. Viking funeral. What about that?
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A Viking funeral. Yeah. Stick it on a boat and blow it anyway. Why not give it a Viking funeral? That's the best.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Well, I do look like a Viking at the minute. So, you know, this I think that'd be very appropriate. Unfortunately, it's probably it's probably gonna mean I'm gonna have to buy a new one at some point, you know.
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Why do you look like a Viking? Why are you looking like a Viking? What's going on? You got a battle axe in one hand, or you've been growing your hair long and you're covered in woad possibly like a sort of picked Nothing nothing so excited. I mean, the hair's quite long anyway, so you know.
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No. It's Bloody heavy. Plus plus, just before I came on, I managed to have a a a massive, I say my brain's not working. I'm gonna have brain fog for the first half an hour of this because because I've just had a hypoglycemic fit because of low blood sugar. So now my head's going, ah. So if I if I need to go down and get some sugar at some point, I'll be fine, I'm sure. There we go. This is extremely
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untoward. Yeah. This is pretty untoward. This is completely wrong. I have to make sure I send plenty of sugar up to you the day before when we have you on the next time. I can't get any sugar to you fast enough right now, so I'm glad you've got your own supply at hand. Yeah. Actually, I was just a few sweets. I don't know if that counts, but you know, there's a few sugary sweets, so we'll just have them for now. Yeah. I was speaking to Eli who's on here every few weeks, the other day and, just organizing something for him. He was telling me that he just had his first attack ever of vertigo and it had lasted all day. Oh. And I did yeah. And I said, I said, I don't know if you can remember but you have had a quintuple heart bypass. And he went, oh, yes. I have. I said, yeah. Yeah. That's probably got something to do with it. I said, I'm not a medical expert but, you know, there's quite a bit gone on with you and that's within the last year. So anyway, he seemed quite jolly. Apparently, the following day he was not so bad but, yes, I get that. So I mean, I've now hit the age. I don't know if you've got it, Eric. If I get out of bed too fast, I just I go, woah. Hang on. Sit back down before you stand up. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My blood pressure level's too low. I'm so chilled and relaxed as I sleep that if I sort of leap out of bed with a eureka moment, I sometimes go, bloody hell, I better just lie down. I'm going, yes. Life's showing I'm not 16 anymore. It's a bit irritating because you as a bloke, you you keep thinking that you are right up to the very end. Yes.
Whatever that might be. But did you did you hear about, Keir
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Starmer? He's actually had a yeah. Sorry.
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No. No. Carry on. You started now. What is it what is it, the mastermind you've started so you you can finish? No. You've started two minutes. You've got to finish.
[01:10:42] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Keir Starmer,
[01:10:44] Unknown:
had a brain transplant and it rejected him. Sorry. It's terrible. It rejected him. I think that's what he looks like, is if he's had a brain transplant. That's rejected that's rejected him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he does look permanently stunned. I mean, there is that. Not stunning, but he does look permanently stunned. The thing is the thing is the problem the problem with what you've just said there, Chris, is that I find it does it does have a brain. Unfortunately, it's working for the wrong side, and it's working a little bit too efficiently, but not efficiently enough that people can't see through as bullshit. So, you know, there's that. It's it that's a good thing, innit?
[01:11:13] Unknown:
Yeah.
[01:11:14] Unknown:
Oh, I think I'm a bit of an echo. I don't know whether that's coming through badly or
[01:11:18] Unknown:
No. No. We're all fine. The sound's actually not too bad right now. I never know quite what we're gonna get these days. It's still to do with media because the computer now has become our sort of media tool, hasn't it really? But Yeah. This Windows lock thing, it's getting out of hand really. I haven't moaned about it for years because, I should imagine possibly like many listeners here, I use Windows 10. People may be using some other version of Windows. And it wasn't by necessarily because I love Microsoft. That's got nothing to do with it. It was simply that the audio tools, as you can tell from today's outstanding audio quality, but no. The audio tools, the audio tools that we were looking for, I could only really find them on on Windows. So it kinda works, but, Windows 11 Windows 10 now is out of its security
[01:12:21] Unknown:
updating. And I'm wondering,
[01:12:22] Unknown:
Eric, that if you're using Windows 10, they may be running all sorts of things to make you think that you need to go to Windows 11. I wouldn't put anything past them at all. It's like soft irritations drive you crazy, and they know it. And it's you know, that's their model is that they get you in with lots of freebies, and then they start to nudge you over to something else. And, Windows 11, the more I look at it, the more unpalatable it is. I mean, that that you have to subscribe to certain things. You need a Microsoft account to install it. Maybe you have to use it each time when you log in. Maybe not. I don't know. But this whole sort of invasive, it's our computer and we're letting you use it even though you paid for it doesn't sit right with me. I'm I'm I'm not particularly happy or pleased about it. So I mean yeah. Well And I think that sorry. Yeah. Please. Well, I'm I I think sorry. I I sorry. I I chatted you. But,
[01:13:17] Unknown:
no. What I was gonna say, I'm I'm going to I'm thinking I seriously think they're going over it back to, Linux. It's bloody brilliant and dual boot into Linux because you won't get any of these problems with Linux. It just goes. It either goes or it doesn't go, and that's it. So, I'm a bit of a Linux enthusiast. So, that's my that's my 10p. Well, sorry about that. I didn't mean to chime in.
[01:13:40] Unknown:
Well, all I can say about Windows is that at the minute, I mean, I'm quite a fan of Windows 10. I'm on I'm on 11. I've I've been on Windows 11 for a while, but it is this it's a hell of a lot more efficient than it was many years ago with, like, XP and, like, Windows 98 and stuff like that. It runs one hell of a lot better. Even Windows seven, it runs better than that. The unfortunate part is you've got that you don't own the product, you license it, you're paying for a license to use it. As part of that license they get to advertise and dictate what you do on it and if you, you know, if you if you take it too far they'll basically just revoke your license and then you're gonna be useless PC that that doesn't really operate anything.
[01:14:24] Unknown:
This is true. This is true. Well, I I don't know what everybody else out there is using. Not that we need to know. This is not a market research program. I'm not really too fussed. I know that there's quite a lot of Mac users out there. The Macintosh, of course, is sublime in many ways, but I have the same sort of ideological problem with it, which is that you get hoovered into their workspace. It's very good for sound and things like this. But, also I think the thing is when you've been using these things for a long time, you you get habituated to a certain type of workflow. And I'm really aware of how easy it is to disrupt me. I'm very easily disrupted in terms of workflow, if I've got to learn all this new stuff. Anyway, I've been sort of taking a lot of deep breaths this week, looking at using some version of Ubuntu, which is a a flight a flavor of Linux.
And it looks as though, with a a bit of bailing wire, glue, and string, I might be able to get it to do pretty much what what I've got my machine to do right now. But I think the only option is I'm gonna have to run both. So it may well be that, you know, continuing in the audio space I'm gonna have to carry on using Windows, just purely for shows to be quite honest and so sort of sound mix. So that's what I'm planning to do. It's I used it. I used to, I run Linux for about three years up to about 2015, I think it was. So it's it's the last ten years I went back to Windows, but I never forgot, Linux is kind of bulletproof in a way. A very interesting, video I saw that, I mean, any of you I don't know if you guys are involved in setting up virtual private servers and things like this. I am. I do that kind of stuff.
Because the whole of the Internet basically runs on Linux. But that's just the truth of it. The the entire server network, the big sort of ports of call that are sending all the packets around and all these big data centers, they don't use Windows and pay a license for it. Who who would do that? They use Linux. And Linux actually has more developers working on it than Microsoft does because the worldwide open source community is colossal. My main it's not a gripe with Linux because that's like saying I've got a gripe with all these thousands and thousands of developers. They're all boffins by the by the man in the street standard. They're boffins. Right? They don't realize that they are. If you go into any of these sites, they're all writing in code language and go, oh, yeah. You do this, and then you use Java for this. No. And I'm going, look, I could spend three months of my life understanding what you're saying, but I don't want to. It's not a good use of my time. And there's, a gap for a kind of really user friendly, really simplified user friendly sort of Linux version. No doubt they will tell me that Ubuntu is it and it probably is,
[01:17:08] Unknown:
but people have still got to get used to a thing using sort of terminal commands and they'll be able to sort of me off it. No. No. That's why I've never used it because it's like if if you're going in, you've never used it before and you've got nobody else who can talk you through it, you're basically up against an operating system that you can't really utilize. So that's why I've never installed it because I just don't know enough about it, and I don't know anyone who can take me through it. So it's it's a different Well, it'll probably be me. I'll probably take you through it if you get if in a couple of months when I've done it. I'm planning to be on this by January.
[01:17:38] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not in any rush with these things anymore. It's not like I've got to do it yesterday. My main problem is back is moving all my files over to somewhere else. Sorry. We've gone a bit technical here. This is a bit tedious. You've all got to face this in here. But I've got so much sort of audio files and books particularly. My main gripe is that I've got nearly all my books using Kindle, and Kindle don't run on Linux. I'm going, oh, no. Because I I actually even though Kindle is an Amazon product, it's bloody good because I can put notes in it and cross reference them and stuff like that. And as I get nerdier with regards to sort of cross referencing information as I get older, It's very, very useful. Saves me an awful lot of time. So there's probably an alternative, but I'm thinking, oh, I've got to change.
And it's the it's the changeover thing. We don't like it. Yeah. I don't like change when what I've got is working. But, yeah. No. It's actually not that difficult. It's not that difficult. I'll tell you, one of the cool things about it is the the way that the apps update, it's it's almost seamless on Linux and it works. And you don't get bombarded with security checks because you don't need them Because nobody can write stuff really effectively to hack into Linux desktops. It's way more of a challenge. That's why you don't need all this sort of gubbins and this sort of protection culture. Oh, you need this and you need that on Windows, don't you? You gotta protect against this and we're protecting you against that. And you're thinking, why don't you just write an operating system that does it automatically? That that covers it. Why am I having to work so hard to get the value out of this thing? So, but Windows 10 is good. I'll give it to you. It's been very good. It's been it's certainly been the best iteration of it that I've used.
I started off on Macintoshes actually in the nineteen eighties. That's how ancient I am. And, that was always pretty cool was Macintosh. But I, as I said, it's a closed sort of ecosystem and I don't go for that kind of thing. But there we go. I mean, I'll I'll give Windows eleven one thing. I mean, Windows 10 as well. They're both efficient. They both work quickly.
[01:19:35] Unknown:
But again, what are you given in exchange for that? Because it was quite a massive, like an upgrade from from Windows seven that that was a bit glitchy and, you know, programs crashed on it frequently and then you get Windows ten eleven everything just seems to work seamlessly. But again what what are you really giving them for that? I mean you're the product if it's free you're the product and both Windows ten and eleven were free. The other thing is you just mentioned there about viruses and things like that. I'm absolutely convinced that the viruses are done by the operators like so for example, you know Of course they are. Exactly. Because why why would they release a product that was so, corruptible and and had no integrity other than to sell you extra stuff that you needed to install on your system that then scans your files for your security and protection. So then scans your files and then and you've given them everything because of you know you want to keep it all safe. You've given it to them. Yep. And you've paid for them. Completely in agreement on that. It's the great protection racket. It's it's a very sophisticated protection racket. Yeah. Use this, and then it goes wrong. Have you noticed as well,
[01:20:44] Unknown:
by the way, there's a a comment from Warren here says, you will regret this is he's wagging the finger at you, Nathan. Right? You will regret Windows 11. I'm I'm kind of in I'm tacitly in agreement with Warren. I don't want you to have any regrets, but I know what he means. He said, especially when you hear what Rob Braxman yeah. Well, we all know Rob. I don't know Rob Braxman, Warren, but thank you for pointing him out. Has to say about it. He's the, Microsoft software expert, and he is angry. I've seen a lot of these things. I've been spending a couple of days. You know, everybody's going people are switching to Linux in huge numbers, and they are at the moment because of this Windows 11. I think it's this thing that you get sucked into their subscription base and they're they're just going, leave me alone, you know. So, and I'll tell you, although setting up VPSs is if you don't know anything about it This is the thing, when you go to the sort of sites that are guiding you, you go, well you write this and you do that and I'm going, woah stop I don't even know what you're referring to. It takes ages to work it. When you've worked it out you go, oh it's logical now that I understand the shorthand that you're using in your communications.
But it's not that obvious. That said, there are so many brilliant instructional videos on Linux and other things on YouTube, that they can guide you through it. But you've got to basically say, oh, no. I'm gonna have to it's a bit like changing your underwear. You know, bugs don't wanna do that. Right? No. No. No. Do we do anything that wants to waste? Idea. Or is it is it is it something that's enough for anybody, you know. There's no need to go crazy with all that hijinks. Hey. That's right. That's why.
[01:22:14] Unknown:
Yes. And do you know what they call underpants in in Australia? Crusties. So no date Oh, yeah. I got me crusties, mate. Yeah. That's that's you're down under. Oh. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true
[01:22:31] Unknown:
that's
[01:22:32] Unknown:
down under. Yeah. I refer to things down under. Exactly. There you go. Yeah. Anyway I've got I've got brain fog. I've got I've got a massive excuse here. I've just done a massive hypo. I've had a crap day. I've killed my phone. I think I'm allowed to do a few crap jokes.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
There was a point in there as well. Eric never asked to ask for permission. We get them all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. We get them all the time. I I mentioned in the first Especially constipated Vic a joke. Yes. But that's a bit too early. I don't think you've got a Yeah. Permission to tell that one again Yes. Just yet. You're gonna have to wait a few more weeks. I'm gonna get constipated. We were obviously in the first hour, slight technical audio of things aside, we were talking obviously about the mainstream media, George Orwell, Newspeak. Well, I didn't even mention Newspeak, but this whole thing about the hijacking the control of media.
And, of course, the BBC event really illustrates it really rather well. And actually, that was rather fortunate because the show image, for today's show was prepped about four weeks ago. I sort of did them in a batch. So I just got lucky really that this event had happened. Anyway, I mentioned that there was communication about this a long time ago in the early days of the press, relatively early, round about 1880. So for all of those of you who are around in '80, no doubt you will remember this, but there's a gentleman called John Swinton. Lived and worked most of his life in Canada and then, America, But he was born in Scotland, stayed in Scotland for a few years of his life and then his family and his father took them out to Canada at first and he ended up in newspapers in America, initially in Mississippi and places like this. Obviously, a bright and capable fellow.
But there was a gathering at the New York Press Club around about 1880, I think, probably 1880. And I'm gonna read everything that he wrote that he said in this speech because you may well have heard it, but it's just good to hear again. It's only five paragraphs. It's relatively brief. This is what he said. So he's addressing a lot of journalists there, in, I guess, the heyday of newspapers. Newspapers would be a big deal then. This is still pre radio, and they're a big deal and getting bigger, of course, with each passing year. He said this to them. He said, he was the president, I believe, of the press club as well at the time, a very senior position. He says, there is no such thing at this date of the world's history in America, you can equally apply that to England, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions. And if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.
I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper before twenty four hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it. And what folly is this, toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance.
Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes. Gentlemen, has anything changed, do you think, since eighteen eighty?
[01:26:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Technology. That's about it, though. That's about it. I mean, when did all this start? I mean, you've gotta really ask this, haven't you? I mean, they've they've they've effectively what what that's saying is that they've had this controlled before its inception. They've had they've had the newspapers controlled since they were newspapers. They've had radio stations controlled before the radio came along. They've got the internet controlled many years before they released that to the public. So yeah, I mean, you know, how long have they been planning this? Long long time I think.
[01:26:56] Unknown:
A while. A while. I mean, I think if you look at, say, the control of, the Bible, which we were talking about a few weeks ago, because it's all about information. It doesn't matter that it's necessarily about that, but it's an illustrative thing that was a very powerful force in people's lives, you know, organized religion. And they did everything that they could to ensure that the public were incapable of reading it directly.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
That was, you know, May. I remember this discussion that we had as well. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the idea, wasn't it? They keep it in Latin then you've got to rely on your preachers and your pulpit, to to basically inform you as to what's in there. You can cherry pick all the bits that apply to you. If you've got an author authoritarian regime, which you always do, they can then direct which bits you want your your congregation to hear so that that can then, you know, control behavior, control society, and they've done it very well. They've, it's almost like they've planned it.
[01:27:48] Unknown:
They have. And I think, you know, if we come up plan will it, but Well, they have planned it, obviously. I mean, I think it's an instinctive thing really about controlling, you know, what would they call us? The herd or whatever. I don't mind what they call us. It doesn't really matter. I'm not gonna get upset. They've got to call us something.
[01:28:02] Unknown:
Yeah. The, you know, the pigs in the field. Okay. Whatever. I don't really mind if I am angry at you. Matter what they call us because it only it only matters if we're offended by it. I really couldn't give a damn anymore. You can call me what you like. You know, how about it? I've been called worse probably. So, you know, alright. Call me cattle if you like. I'll call you a parasite and return. How about that? You know, the the the authorities. The the those they're all not to be. That's all I'm referring to just so there's no
[01:28:27] Unknown:
Well, I was I mean, I thought that Swinton's thing as well, of course, is directly applicable to what's happened here at the BBC in that the main editor in chief has lied and has undermined everything and has and hasn't allowed any honest opinions in, you know, at all with regards to that, and has ended up paying this price as he rightly should have done. I mean, you know, I I would love do you think the BBC now they often make documentaries about real events in the news later on? Steady. Do you think they'll make one about what happened in the cutting floor room when they were editing all those clips to make Trump look like an even bigger buffoon? I'm sorry if I've offended anybody, but, my disposition is that I don't trust any politician at all. Right? Not one.
And, but they they've gone they've gone out of their way to, to I mean, it would be an amazing documentary. Well, we clip this a little bit. Oh, no. Don't put that in there, Nigel. This is terrible. What we do is we cut it here. There you go. We've got him saying this. I mean, literally. And, of course, I I think it's so valuable because the question that probably many people are not asking sufficiently often is, well, if they did that then, have they done it before? Mhmm. And and how often have they done it? And have they been doing this sort of thing for a long time? Yes.
Do you not think that they might have this might have occurred to someone like, say, Sefta Delma in the nineteen forties and whoever his forerunners were? And, you know, Edward Bernays and John Swinton pointing it out in 1880. How do you know if you have such a thing as an honest journalist and it's very difficult to know you're gonna get any, all of these sort of power structures, government, banking, the law, the media are infected with the same sort of, organized organizational dysfunction and corruption. None of them are free to really communicate as if they were with us here around in the pub, in the virtual audio pub having a chat. They can't do it. They never do it. It's it's absolutely preposterous. If a population is supposed to receive information through its media,
[01:30:37] Unknown:
can you rely on any of it? Well, I mean, to be fair, they are they are giving the population information. It doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's false. I mean, this is the, you know, the it's very clever the way they do it. I mean, you can't just feed you lies because they get sussed very quickly so they've got to give you I reckon about 70% fact or 70% truth and then and then they can they can insert their lies and deception and propaganda a hell of a lot easier because then it's harder to suss the the bad information from the good information which you know it's, but but it's for the BBC. I I can't watch it. I just can't watch it anymore. It's their authoritarian tone that just drives me up the wall. Can't do it. Nor can I?
[01:31:16] Unknown:
I can. I can do it. Are you ready? Here we go. Oh my god, Will. This is the voice of the BBC. You can trust me. That's all you have to do. Well, is that it? At home. It's good, isn't it? Hello. London calling. Hello. We're coming to you from Crystal Palace. I've just been to see the kid. You're enjoying the lockdown. And here's the truth. An appeal. Honest. Yeah.
[01:31:35] Unknown:
Hello, Chris.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
Oh, we lost him. Eric, have you have you disappeared? No. I was gonna say I got an appeal.
[01:31:43] Unknown:
I'm still here. Yes. I'm still here. Yes. I I I can you hear me? Now what I'm gonna appeal Yes. What during the lockdown, you know, when they had those you you know, when they had those marches, a fellow was interviewed and he said in 1947, there was a meeting between the government and the BBC in which they said that the propaganda that they put out during World War two was so good, we need to continue this on into future you know, in the future. And it's all agreed. Now I've looked the Internet up, and I can't find it anywhere, this particular meeting in a certain place. Does anybody know anything more about this? Because I've been looking all over the place for it. Because I want it in black and white. You You know, I want the meat on the bone because I can mention it, but someone says, well, show me the evidence, and I can't show the evidence. So it must have been a meeting somewhere, and this chap said he's done all his research into it. Anybody know of it at all? I don't know. They'll have scrubbed it, mate. I mean, what you've got now is a digital book burning platform,
[01:32:44] Unknown:
you? So they'll have they'll have scrubbed it from the Internet. It will be deliberate because they don't want you knowing certain things. And if they can subtly remove things and eventually you're gonna start second guessing yourself thinking, oh, well, maybe I didn't see it. Maybe it was, you know, from, I don't know, watched a film where it was or that you know somebody's mentioned it to me in the past I mean it's very clever.
[01:33:05] Unknown:
Yes it is. It certainly rings a bell Eric I can't tell you either maybe even though we might not get an answer this evening if there's any enterprising listener out there on WBN or, YouTube or, Rumble who's listening to the show and they know of this or have got the yen and urge to go and find out, Send me the information, and this is something I meant to announce earlier on. There's a contact email address now for this show. I don't and it's actually, published on my one page website, which I'm slowly we're probably gonna enhance it a little bit. I've never had much time up until recently to start looking at these things.
But if you send an email into studio@paulenglishlive.com, studio@paulenglishlive.com, On anything, really, I'll get the email in. Don't start trying to sell me pills and stuff.
[01:33:56] Unknown:
I've I've already taken it out. To be fair, you've got the nicotine to sell back to them. So if they start selling you pills, you just say, right, well, I've got I've got one for you as well. I have have some of these.
[01:34:05] Unknown:
I do. Yeah. We've all we can all sell each other our own stuff, can't we? And I'll be very, very happy. But no. If there's anything, you know, pointers or stuff like that, get going. I will I'll seek to reply, you know, as quickly as I can. It doesn't mean necessarily the moment it comes in, but I will get back to most people unless I get completely overloaded, in which case I'll announce it here. But you can send information in and request and that kind of stuff, suggestions for the show, anything like that, you know, when we're not on air, because when we're on air, we're having too much fun, aren't we? We can't always pay attention to these things. Paul, I've got a question for you. I mean, in fact, it's more of a request. So right. Unfortunately,
[01:34:41] Unknown:
and it's a guilty confession. I will I will fess up to this one. I am absolutely terrible answering emails, and I feel I feel quite guilty about it. So what I'm reckoning is now that you've just made that announcement, we should link emails, and you should answer all mine for me as well. I wouldn't even pay for that. I wouldn't even send you a tenner a month to do that because my email skills and replying is terrible.
[01:35:01] Unknown:
Well, I I I can't begin to tell you how excited I am by that invitation. And, of course, it's very rude it's very rude to to turn down an invitation, particularly when it's live and on air. Exactly. Millions of people are listening. But for now, you'll have to maybe think think about it a little bit. Well, if that was an offer you couldn't refuse and clearly, you know, and now that you need to think about it, I mean, I feel I feel a bit betrayed by this.
[01:35:25] Unknown:
As as I'm sure my people that email me feel betrayed by me, which is I I do apologize to them though to be fair. I do know when you set up them eventually.
[01:35:33] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. Well well not Well you know when you set up a new email account? When you set up a new one and and and it's great where there's no cluster in there and then suddenly spam starts coming in and you it's not the fact, you know, I get people moaning, stop sending me this stuff, it's spam. I'm going, don't you have a spam filter? I mean, I've I've got so many email accounts on Gmail, Yahoo, and everywhere. But I'm they worry me. They really do worry me. And but it's been very useful to sort of make use of them. If you think about the free email stuff that came along, it was about 2004, wasn't it? Early two thousand. They had Hotmail, then that got bought out and all this kind of stuff. They were absolutely amazing when they first came out. They were brilliant. Really, really useful. And of course little were we to know that they were gonna then effectively, like you said, you know, if it's free, then you are the product. And of course, this is where Windows 11 has ended up, I would suggest. It's it's taken a major step in that direction, which is why it's it's very distasteful. And, it's worth acting on it now if you've got that feeling because habit and convenience undo most of our good intentions. Oh, I can't be bothered. That thing. I mean, you just get worn out with all these fiddly little things that you've got to do, and they are irritating beyond belief. But, for now, Nathan, I'm gonna politely turn down your information to answer your emails.
You know, unless there's a pound to be my secretary, it's fine. Reply, in which case, I'll answer a thousand a day if you like. You know? So Okay.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
I was gonna say, you know, if anyone wants to be my secretary, I'm quite happy to do that, but you're gonna get paid about a tenner a month if that. So, you know,
[01:37:04] Unknown:
Well, I'd love one. Wouldn't you love one? You know, I remember when I was Yes. I love the idea that I'm driving the whole thing myself. You read about these authors and and and and people that had a bit of money back in the thirties and forties and fifties who are writers and stuff. And they've got, you know, so and so as they're secretary handling all that. And I'm going now I'm thinking, that would be so cool. That would be great, you know. But that that means I'd have to have an office, and I'd have to have a waistcoat to put on to go to the office and everything. And, you know, the little lady she didn't have to be little. She'd be huge, really. But the lady that that's in charge of the typing pool, I love the idea of typing pools and all that kind of stuff. But then I am a bit strange. I'm getting stranger as the days go by.
[01:37:45] Unknown:
But, You know what you're saying though? Something's just come to mind. If you need an office, and as Chris is now part of this this enterprise, you could call them fuck them offices. There you go. I mean, getting hall offices. Do that. Yeah.
[01:38:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Fuck them hall and fuck them offices. You know? I mean, what more could you ask for? Fockham Fockham offices. That's that's a good one, ain't it? Yes. Oh, by the way, someone's called Billy Silver. Ramsey said, didn't Dave so David Irving covered that, didn't he, Eric? What what what was the last comment? About?
[01:38:20] Unknown:
You said Rumble and YouTube.
[01:38:22] Unknown:
They're in Rumble and YouTube. Well, I've got rumble. To be fair, I'm not even following the rumble comments. So if anyone's said anything to me, I do apologize. I haven't been following it. But They've been saying some terrible things about you, but I'm such a good host. I don't wanna repeat them all. Oh, no. Tell me. Hey. At this point, I'm just gonna be entertained by it. I really don't care. You know? It's just I've I've given up all shits.
[01:38:40] Unknown:
Oh, now look. I tell you what, there's a really good one come through right now because I think I might have found a secretary either for me or you, Eric, because Aunt Sally writes, that was my job. Yes. I was a secretary. I bet a jolly good one when you weren't taking a bath Woah. Aunt Sally. Aunt Sally?
[01:39:02] Unknown:
Would would you like to take down my particulars? Would you like to see my dick pic?
[01:39:07] Unknown:
Sorry. No. But Chris, this is not carry on radio. Not just No. I was dick anyway.
[01:39:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm gonna I'm gonna borrow it. Dick to phone. Alright, Chris. Alright. Hold on. To to talk to him, isn't it? Yes. Well Yeah. There's there's no need for that. Look. Just because I broke my phone, there's no need to say that I've been a dick to my phone. Alright. Just there's no need for it. I'm completely do you know what? In the break, I'm going for a whiskey, and I'll probably I'll probably get a little bit more mature and sensible or something like that, maybe.
[01:39:35] Unknown:
Well, yeah. But that that's a perfectly, thing because in the nineteen sixties and seventies, gentlemen in their offices did have dictaphones. They they they used to press a button and record,
[01:39:46] Unknown:
a letter for the secretary to type, and it's called a dictaphone. So what's wrong with that? I don't know. Pete was trying to sort of referee a mature conversation this evening, gentlemen, but I can see it's really got way out of hand, doesn't it? It didn't take long. I I went into a dressmaker's shop.
[01:40:02] Unknown:
People get the wrong end of the stick. I went into a dressmaker shop the other day and I said, Scooby, can you tell me where I can get felt? The woman slapped me around the face. Why? I mean, you know, it's a perfectly ordinary question, isn't it? You know? It's because you're a toxic white folk, and you've got the feminists making all the dresses. You've what? You've done it now, Chris.
[01:40:20] Unknown:
Just just tell them just tell them you're white. I've got away overnight.
[01:40:27] Unknown:
That's a good idea, ain't it? Not a pretty sight though.
[01:40:31] Unknown:
I don't know. A woman in a dress with a beard? She Oh, yeah. Seem worse.
[01:40:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I think, I think I think, Eric, actually appointing Aunt Sally as, as the head of the Fockham typing pool would be a good thing. You can put it on the letterhead. That'd be good. Yep. That's good. I mean, I I know I've mentioned it before. I think logistic is never gonna happen. This is just sort of you can tell you're of a certain age when you start thinking about things that are really quite wonky that you would never get excited about when you're young. But the idea of actually having an office and working from it and doing the show from an office studio with us all in it, it'll never happen because we're all over the place Well, not. Would be extremely appealing. I mean, I know people that do do that, and I think it's really it's quite a good thing.
So I would I would love to do that sort of thing. It would be fantastic. I think it would actually, improve things. Not that this could be improved much above what it is. No, it could. It always can be. And I think, it would be it would be a jolly good thing. I mean, I mentioned that Liz Truss thing and one of the things she said in it, this is nothing genius or anything, she said, you know, the mainstream press is losing ground, which it is, but we do need a stronger alternative media. And we do. And, if we were able to get more organized and actually we are able to do it, it's sloths, indifference or or having to go and do other things that gets in the way.
I'm not working as effectively as I know I can, but I'm working more effectively than I was five months ago. I know that. That's starting to happen and I'm very pleased about it. But, we do have resources that previous generations have never had. And I I think we can still make a great deal more use of them. I mean, I've you know, the idea of a physical newspaper is very attractive. And then I start I send back and look at it and go, yeah. But it's it's extremely expensive. You've got to look at what you can add up. Because I think if there were, and I think it this is an English disease, and I don't know whether you feel this way, but it's almost as if we're extremely backwards about coming forwards to get finance going to develop things.
[01:42:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Because we've been we've been made to be too polite about it. I mean, whenever I try and if we have that, I feel guilty about it. Can I can I just backtrack a little bit? Right. So I've missed this You can. Unusual case. The whole Liz Truss thing, telling us that we need a stronger alternative media was two things: what does she mean by that? And secondly, how how can you do that when we're under such heavy censorship and we don't say anything for actual fear of being arrested in The UK for for simply saying things that somebody might find offensive or go against the government. So what is what does she mean by that and how are we supposed to do that?
[01:43:13] Unknown:
Ah, well, I don't know. I'm not looking to her for leadership. I'm just mentioning that she mentioned it. That's all. It must I've probably mentioned it too much. People probably think I'm a fan now. That's not what I'm saying. Obsessed it up. I I well, you know, I don't I don't mind. I mean, there are people that I don't necessarily like, but if they say the truth or it co it's sort of like their footprint of truth overlaps with mine, I pay attention to it. I think it's useful. She's likely to get much bigger platforms than we are. The fact that she's actually being verbally abused ever since, her very short tenure as PM is actually now looking good. It's actually a positive, I think, because it indicates that whatever she was doing really did put a cat amongst the pigeons with the very people that do run and manage all these organizations.
And she's not backwards about coming forward to let you know who they are. And this I think think that this is the this is an approach that I find at this moment in time very appealing. I mean, seven or eight years ago when we're when I was doing radio stuff, say, with Andy Hitchcock, we would plow into the whole of the World War two thing in terms of the Jewish issue, the history of that, in great detail. And it was at the time, and could be again extremely satisfying to actually go over these things because we were talking about stuff that that really huge numbers of people weren't aware of. However, I have noted, this is not rocket science either, you introduce you take those sorts of topics into a normal situation, you won't get very far.
But if you look at the soft approach, I think there's tremendous amount of attraction with what I call a softer approach to this. And, there are some very articulate people coming through. And by articulate, I don't mean overly complicated. I mean people are getting their points across really well. I think I played that clip from Robin Pickett the other week. And if you haven't seen the thirty seven minute inter full interview with him, again, by way of promotion in this show, I would suggest you get to it on YouTube. Robin Pickett, it's about thirty seven minutes long. It's filmed outside the Houses of Parliament on an evening relatively recently, and what he says is tremendous stuff. It's because what it's doing is it's acting as that kind of wearing down of the idiocy of the other side. And we do it best by quiet civilized speech better than any other method. And if there's one thing that we're supposed to be noted for as English people is that we can take that calmer approach. Put the kettle on, have a cup of tea, calm down, be thoughtful, and start to speak clearly about things. It's way, way better than banging the lectern. It doesn't work on our people. It it doesn't work. We don't respond to that at all.
But We can't get strident. You know you I agree. Alex Jones would never have made it here. I've tried it and it hasn't done. It doesn't work. It does not work. You're right. It's not our way. You're you're right. And I think
[01:46:17] Unknown:
yeah. But I think there's a need for satire. Badly need bad need for satire because the old things like private eye and all that, they they're gone. They're they're part of the establishment. And when you look at the light, it's a very good newspaper. Yes. But there's nothing to cheer people up. And wars are fought and won in the minds of people. And we've got to be positive, and we've got to be happy, and we've got to laugh at those in control and keep on laughing as our greatest weapon. I agree. I agree with you, mate. The trouble is what?
[01:46:49] Unknown:
Yeah. That's alright. Carry on. I'll I'll add something to it when you finish. Yeah.
[01:46:53] Unknown:
Well, I was gonna say is, I mean, I did the Fockem Hall Times, and I did the whole lot myself, 16 pages. And believe me, it's exhausting. And what I found I mean, you can download it. You can you can just download it free. It's it's on my, website, fulcrumhallradio.com. But the thing is is that you say, have a laugh, you write something about Keir Starmer. Now he might be history in a couple of weeks' time if he's somebody else takes over the hell. And it's surprising how quickly a current news goes down. Who remembers, Sunak and people like that? They've gone. They're history.
And this is the problem when writing satire. It's gotta be something that will stand a test of time in a way, and this is the problem I can't Spitting image esque.
[01:47:43] Unknown:
Something like spitting image or, yeah, something that can that can, you know, take the piss but do it tastefully kind of, but, you know, you're right. Again, it's it's if we don't listen, the thing is if we don't stay, you know positive enough to to to get through the day what use are we anyway I mean if we're just going to get bogged down by the by this what we're hearing there's no point doomscrolling things like that if it's going to get on top of you you're not good to anybody but but equally where the media is concerned even in even in the alternative media I think there's a hell of a lot of gatekeepers there which which I think are just siphoning us and funneling us back into a mainstream narrative just through just different mediums and platforms. I mean that's all they're doing. I mean again not that I listen to them, but take Russell Brand.
You know, I'll give you an example. Right. About eight years ago, whenever I'd tune into YouTube to watch anything on, you know, conspiracy related or, you know, take your pick, If I left autoplay on, even though I'd never subscribe to either of these, it would either autoplay to BBC or it'd autoplay to Russell Brand, right, and neither of those I would ever listen to. I would never choose to listen to either of them. So I've had to take autoplay off on YouTube for that reason. And again, so so why was it why was it also playing on Russell Brand, I wonder?
[01:48:56] Unknown:
Well, because he's a reformed character now, Nathan. We've been told. Totally. Yeah. I believe that. He's a he he's he's a changed chap. He's part of it. I mean, if he goes I I I think I now that I listen to it, I caught one of his live feeds inadvertently when I was doing something on Rumble the other day. He was live. And there are 18 and a half thousand people on his channel. So it's this thing about once you've got, you know, what tactics do you take? You could say to some degree, I've come in the wrong way. I don't view it that like that. I didn't have any choice and I don't even mind. I've not it's not about regrets. If you if you're sort of really tunneling into very rarefied, almost esoteric information, which I believe many of us need to do that, you need to do it maybe as a personal compulsion, but it also needs to be done. You have to have a sort of people who go, yeah, primarily I do a lot of research because I'm suited for it and I think I can once I've got it, I might be able to take it and communicate it in the pub.
This is the way this is my you know, to the layman. I can get it into layman's terms. This is the and get it over. There's a great requirement for doing that. But what they've done is they've just created a huge audience based on the outrageous nature of their history or whatever. And then and then you could say, well, once I've got that audience, then I could start to nudge it in the direction that I want. But there's a the danger with that is that that rarely happens. I think because once you've actually got a major presence, you do either directly or indirectly come under the influence of those agencies that don't want you to talk about certain things because they perceive that you've got a large audience and they don't want you nudging them in certain directions.
And I think this is why, sorry to mention Truss again, but the mere fact that she's pointed out that Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, is a globalist and so is everybody else that owns and runs and is on the board of directors and the shareholders of the Bank of England is a major thing. I and I think it's major because it's still her interview is not getting that much play either. It's a major thing and you know that a major penny for us to get to drop with more and more people, and it is happening anyway, but you you know it everybody that assists with this is doing good work, is people have to get, I believe, that there is this force of play that's actually running your country. And the conclusion from that, for me, is you must not participate in democracy in its current condition. I'm not saying not forever. I don't know how it might change. Can we define democracy? I mean, how how would you define democracy?
The delusion that your vote is actually going to improve the management of your nation. That's what I would view it as. It's it's a it's a self enslaving deceit that you put upon yourself. Oh, I did my bit. I voted. I want this party in and not that party in. But, you know, the next stepping back is, but it but sir, madam, it is irrelevant which party gets in because the government, whichever flavor it is, is controlled by these agencies, and you don't know who they are.
[01:52:06] Unknown:
You know? I'd I'd prefer to refer to to to call us, pre selected representation. Well, you would, but I like that. Well, of course I would. But, you know, it's a good one. It is. It's organized. Yes. But but it is though, isn't it? So the the illusion that you get a choice between, you know, blue tie or red tie even though they're both pushing the same agenda, Well, where's where's where's the true choice in that? You know, there should be there should be hundreds of candidates lining up, you know, if if if we had a true democracy and it would never always be mainstream because people had lost their their faith in that a long time ago. But but to me it's like well you know we've pre selected this candidate or pre selected that candidate for you, which one would you choose? Well neither really because I don't agree with the system full stop and they don't represent us that's another lie isn't it? You know, elective representation they don't represent you, they commercial interests as well, which is a conflict of interest if we look at it from that perspective.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
Yeah. And their own survival, which I understand. You know, If they get enmeshed in a political party that gains power, they're they're done for, are they? Actually, I came across something where is it? Here. It's very brief. I found it. So here we go. I wanna play this. It's forty six seconds. It's Enoch Powell. No. It's forty seconds. How about that? It's Enoch Powell from years ago being interviewed on American TV show. The point he makes though taps into some of this. He's listen to this anyway.
[01:53:33] Unknown:
Even if today, all immigration, whatsoever were ended, banged, from today, we would still be faced with a rate of expansion of the immigrant, population and their children, concentrated in certain areas, which there is a greater anxiety not to admit. And one understands this. First of all, if you belong, as all politicians do, in England to parties who've allowed this to happen, there's a strong premium on not admitting the full weight of the consequences.
[01:54:15] Unknown:
That's key. So these people that are in political parties, they never ever come out with the communication that the British public are yearning to hear, something like that. Because they're part of a party that is literally its history is of supporting this for the last forty, fifty years. So if we can't get and I think under those circumstances, it's virtually impossible to see how it's gonna happen. If you can't get these supposed representatives talking honestly, I'm paraphrasing John Swinton there, putting their honest opinions out into the public marketplace, we haven't got you can't have a democracy because it starts, does it not? True. With individuals communicating what they perceive as the truth and doing it with an open heart and with some level of integrity. Certainly any level would be welcomed over what we've currently got because there's zero integrity. There's not there isn't any.
And so the whole thing is this great delusional space held together by, the mendacious mainstream media to keep everybody sort of in this space, the story. This is it. This is their story. Where, you know, most people are absorbed into it because of where it comes from. It comes from the television, it comes from the trustworthy BBC, it comes from the Times, it comes from the Telegraph, it's in the Independent, it's in the Mirror, it's in the Sun. They're all like echo chambers but pitched at different sections of the populace. And but they're basically telling the same story, that this is worthwhile, you know. This individual is the reprobate, but the system's actually not bad. Whereas it's the other story. The system itself is working perfectly for them. We perceive it to be broken, but it's broken with regards to our deluded view of what it can do to us. And it is deluded. It can't achieve anything like it says on the tin.
You'd you'd have it under false sales literature. You can't do this. You don't manage the country. Keir Starmer, you're not in charge of it. Rachel Reeves, you don't run the economy. Please tell us who does. I can't, you know, why? Because I'd lose my job, I might even lose my life. Okay, that's fine. Okay, now we understand. But that we're never gonna get to that level of completely frank and forthright communication, which it seems to me is absolutely vital. And if what if there's one man who touched it more closely than anybody else, it's Powell. That's why everybody loves Powell to this day, because he stood up and he actually did represent his people and had the courage to speak the unpalatable truths, which basically cast guilt rightfully on all of the members of these political parties. They are guilty of being absent at their post and they're gonna maintain that behavior pattern, it seems to me, because if they go again it, they're done for. And the consequences to them personally are considerable. It's a bit like down at the BBC as well. I don't think many people stepped out because they're all fearful about losing their pensions.
[01:57:11] Unknown:
Mhmm. This guy that's been sacked, he's gonna get his. They do the same with all all so called public servants, though, don't they? They get them on the pension. The pensions are that good and that enticing, but the only you know, they're they're so afraid to lose it. Yeah. Okay. It's a very good pension. Well, you've got to wait until retirement until you can get it obviously, but if you're a naughty boy we'll just rescind it and take it away from you, you know, there's always that threat looming over them it's like well yeah if you don't have to pull the party line or you know state policy wherever you go but you know if you don't we will we might not be able to pay your pension.
So again it's a it's a form of blackmail if you think about it.
[01:57:48] Unknown:
It is and of course the whole pensions thing which I don't know enough about except that it'll be completely wonky. Part of the economy is actually kept going to keep the people that are reliant on pensions ensconced and controllable in their position. I mean, if all the pension funds collapsed, you won't be able to control these people because they well, I've got nothing to look forward to anyway, so I'm gonna start blurting the truth. All these strange sort of second and third level pressures that you don't think about, you know, in the first five or ten seconds of looking at a topic, which are sitting there and are applying pressure on people, which are causing them to behave in an insane way, an unsane way. This is not sane, it's like you know we say here none of the discussions about the economy are relevant because they omit how to deal with the bank. This is primary function, it's like being a guy that maintains engines. Well I know I know about, I know about the block here, but do you know anything about fuel? No. No. So so if you don't know anything about fuel and how we get in the engine it's not going to run is it? Well, I don't really want to talk about that. And that's that's part of it. There's a lack of it's why I use the word engineer. We need engineers literally in charge of things. I don't mean social engineers. Right? We've got those unfortunately. My favorite subject. That's not why I'm talking. Yeah. But I mean if you define in my definition of an engineer is someone who, when they're talking about whatever it is they've designed or built and they tell you what it will do, it does exactly what they tell you it's gonna do. They say I've built this engine and it will last for five five years, it will last for fifteen if you maintain it every year, if you don't five years tops it'll fall apart. And if it starts doing that you go this guy's got integrity because everything he says pans out and how does he know that? Because he's an engineer because he's worked out you know, in this particular case the stress levels on metal or whatever it or the heat and or whatever it may be in their particular discipline.
And you look at how, you know, our guys put jet engines together. I've been watching this recently. Some of these guys, you know, that we've had over here that nobody knows about. Everybody's heard about Frank Whittle and these they go off and they just go off with a pencil. This is why I talk about this stuff. And they've created something and said it's gonna do this, but it won't do that because you haven't supplied me with this. It'll fall over. And then you find in all of these developments government bods step in and cock it up every time, every single time, so that the inventions and the creativity that's on the ground that would actually help people in real life, in practical terms, doesn't come to market in a particular way. Anyway, that said, we're coming up to the end of our time slot here on on our on WBN, So thanks for being with us for the past couple of hours. We'll be back again at the same time next week. We're going to have a transition song. We're carrying on over on Rumble and YouTube and elsewhere. If you want to tune in, go over to paulenglishlive.com and you'll find all the links there to Rumble and YouTube.
We played Van Morrison in the first bit. We're gonna play him again because this is relevant. I've played this before but it's a cracking tune. This is They Own the Media, Van Morrison top guy because he doesn't get all patent happy when you play songs. How about that all copyright happy? Good stuff. Song coming up and we'll be going through into hour number three after this.
[02:00:59] Unknown:
They tell us that ignorance is bliss. I guess for those that control the media it is. They are the media they control the stories we are told. If you ever try to go against them, you will be ignored because they control. They control. They control the narrative. They perpetuate the myth. Keep on telling you lies, tell you ignorance is bliss. Believe it all and you'll never get, never get wise. To the truth, because they control everything you do. Everything you do. They control the narrative. They'd protect you with a myth. Keep on selling you lies.
Tell you ignorance is bliss. Believe it all and you never get the truth. Never get wise, wise to their lives, to their lives. They can't show the media. They control the media. They control the media. They control the media. They control the media.
[02:04:04] Unknown:
And I just want the anti American, anti Israel, anti West crowd to understand something. You're gonna have to come through me and millions of people just like me, and you're not gonna make it. You think your stupid little podcast or your stupid little subscription program or your little TV show or maybe you have a little radio show is gonna change the world like hell it is, not if I and everybody else have something to say about it.
[02:04:42] Unknown:
Thanks. That was, Mark Levin telling us where to go. He's a radio host apparently in The States. So our shitty little radio show. Sorry about that, but we're gonna keep on with it. Yeah. He had a new guest on. I'm thinking, oh, this guy's a straight talking bastard, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah. He's a lovely guy. He's great. He's full of it. Anyway, the song was, They Own the Media by Van Morrison. And as I mentioned there, just before we played it, he's, he owns all his music and he lets you play it. How about that? Which is wonderful. And, of course, him being very, very talented and easy to listen to helps. And the lyrics couldn't be more spot on. I probably would wanna play that every week, but we'd it'd drive everybody mad. But I I love it. It's, it's very apt for tonight's show. So there we go. So there you go. If you're doing a crappy little podcast, Mark Levin's out for you.
So I just thought you ought to know is to cheer you all up. I'm shaking in what's left of my boots because I've worn them out this year. I've been walking around them so much they're falling apart now. I only bought them in February and they're all gone. But it's not bad they only cost £25. So I think you know
[02:05:47] Unknown:
My problem with boots is the laces always snap.
[02:05:50] Unknown:
I've got these really posh well I say they're posh boots they're not really You don't know you're on strength Nathan. You're too strong with you're too reckless with your your laces.
[02:05:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm also I'm also a skin flint, so I just basically I just knot them back together and hope that that holds for a while. It tends to. So alright. There you go. How's that for sustainability? I'm saving laces. Can I not buy yourself?
[02:06:12] Unknown:
Well, buy yourself some Aultbergs. That's what the British army is. I'll ask Steve about Aultbergs. They're bloody good. They're called Aultbergs. They're made in Yorkshire and Eop. And No. Last a lifetime, and you can get them secondhand, on, army surplus places. And new, they're over a £100, but you can buy them secondhand and they've hardly there's no wear in them at all. They look new, for anything between 30 and £50. And, Aultbergs, but about 30 to £50
[02:06:45] Unknown:
for an Aultberg. That's the northern battle cry. If you're from Yorkshire, whatever it costs How much? That's what you say. How much?
[02:06:52] Unknown:
I don't think so. How much? Come on. We'll go somewhere else, love. Don't think so. That's how it works. Do you know what? Every time. What about I went around the shop the other day. I was I was in, TK Maxx and just it literally the stuff everywhere. And I'm going, well, that's great, that is, except for the price. I won't be paying that for it. It's just I'm just thinking what I mean, everything is just massively overpriced now, and I just I I can't be bothered. I'm just like, well, that's overpriced, didn't it? Don't you think? Yeah. It says actually. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I'm not buying it. And then you find some that that should be £20 and it's too quid and you're like, oh, damn it.
You know?
[02:07:26] Unknown:
I don't know what it was like for you when you were younger, but when I was younger, my mum was like that everywhere when we went shopping, and it used to embarrass me. I just thought cut it. Yes. Why are we because I'm about eight. And she go, we're not paying that. And so they could hear, you know, it was just really upfront. Yeah. We're not paying you that. Well, that's the price, madam. Well, we're off somewhere else, you know. You shouldn't sell such ropey stuff. It was great. I just love it. It's fantastic. It's it's sort of the energy of proper shopping, not like all polite on online stuff. What's the point about shopping? I mean, I'm like these days, no retail. Anyway. Nah. I bloody hate shopping. I'm a bloke. I can't stand it. It's just irritating. I go, I need a jumper. Why is there not one in my wardrobe? Oh, you mean I've got to go and buy a new one? Oh, God. It's not the money thing. It's just the effort of having to go and pick one out. And then you get it and someone says, that doesn't suit you right. Oh, bloody hell, bugger off. You know, it's just to keep me backside warm or something like that. And, do you know the worst thing and I know that we've gone a bit off track here, but the worst thing for me and I'm right? So oh, god. This is gonna be embarrassing. Right. I've got I've got size six feet. Right? Now for some reason, one shoe shot. I know I know it's not proportionate. So before anyone accuses me of having a little ding dong, sorry to disappoint you.
[02:08:35] Unknown:
You know, it's there's no there's no proportion there. Anyway, it's it's it's not relative. Anyway, so I went into shoes over a couple of weeks ago. I know I couldn't resist. And and so they said, well, the problem that we've got is the children's shoes only go up to a size, what is it, a size five, and then the adults start at a size seven. So even by their own admission, it was bloody daft. And I'm thinking, well, they're okay. So so I hate shoe shopping because of that. It's ridiculous. There you go. Get some proper bloody feet for a start. Oh, well, tell me about it. I know. This probably explains why you had your blood sugar rush. I don't know what's going on there. Well, Don, I'm on the whiskey now, so I'm probably gonna get another one shortly. But, I I forgot I hate your feet. I do. But Mark Anthony's laughing at me there. Yeah. Laugh it up, Mark. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, it is it is bloody stupid. I'm I blame your mother. I think those were something like a size four foot. It's ridiculous. Blame genetics.
Well, I I haven't seen your feet, but I suspect none of them is anybody else either. Do you wanna know something? Alright. Yeah. I know, but it might be size six, but I can use my toes as fingers. You've gotta see you've gotta see it's great. I can tip stuff up and then lift it up and great. It's like I can I can even I can oh, you you know what? I reckon if I have an OnlyFans channel on just me feet, I'd make a bloody fortune picking stuff up and writing with me toes and stuff. There you go. That's crazy as anyway. Can't be without you. It's it's all lies, really.
[02:09:55] Unknown:
I'll sub. That'd be great. I I think I'd be care I mean, if I had feet that small, I'd be careful how much whiskey I drink. I can't imagine how you could keep your balance at me. It's just a Well, okay. Here's the good thing. Size twelve. I'm about twelve an hour. Bloody hell. Yeah. Yeah. And I've got hands that are as big. You know what they say about blokes with big feet, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's definitely not in proportion. I hate to disappoint people. Oh, does that mean he's got a tiny ding dong? Sorry. No. No. I've got a very nice one of those, actually. I'm I'm not a comment. Eric's staying My rugby's staying terribly silent here. I think you can read a lot into it. He's not he's not Tightly.
[02:10:27] Unknown:
Anything. Well, I'm I'm size eight, which is the most which is the most common suit shoe size there is. But have you tried barefoot shoes? Because that's what I wear, barefoot boots.
[02:10:39] Unknown:
They're bloody brilliant. Jesus. I was tempted to say something else about barefoot there, but I think I'll keep that one to myself. I could come across really bad. Yes. No. Carry on. Heredityus has got, an interesting observation about your feet, Nathan. Go for it. He thinks that you might be like Mr. Tumnus from the Narnia stories.
[02:10:57] Unknown:
And are your feet are your feet cloven?
[02:11:00] Unknown:
And, it's an interesting point, Herodotus. That's a very good observation. It hadn't struck me in that way, but this is Tell me, it's it's some people have finally clicked. I've got cloven hooves. Is that what we're saying? Is that Yeah. Well, actually, with your beard, you know, you do have a bit of a look about of I know. I've been told I'm very elfish looking as well. I know. I got I told you I've had I've had every every name, every every insult going at this point in time. It's just like, shit. Go on. Be creative. Let's see what we can get next. So it's quite fun. I I don't I don't think being called an elf is necessarily an insult. Not if you've got magical powers. That would be quite useful, wouldn't it really? That would be quite Magical attributes. Does that count? I I haven't I don't know. I'm not see this is where the weird this is why I shouldn't drink. I'm not gonna finish that sentence because it's, I mean it probably ended up It's making the show quite interesting. We've we've come off on a strange direction, but I don't really mind. It's just whether you can make it with such small feet. Can you touch me warm up? I've made it I've made it forty five years with these little buggers. You know what? If I was Roman, they'd call me Caligula. That's the funniest part about it because that means little boots, doesn't it? But but equally Really? Getting upstairs is really great because my my foot's just just slightly over the size of the steps, so I don't have to worry about, like, legging it up and down the steps on tiptoes.
[02:12:11] Unknown:
Well it's it's nice talking about feet size and footwear. Someone could say we're talking about a lot we're talking a lot of cobblers which which there's definitely room you know I I'd be hard pressed to disagree with them really but it's very interesting. I don't know whether you should have said that or not.
[02:12:27] Unknown:
I think I genuinely don't care. Yeah. It's all over. It's all over. Reputation ruined. That's the whiskey talking. It is. I'm gonna be waiting tomorrow morning. I'm gonna I've got something that every everyone will be envious of. Oh, I can't tell you. You might as well you might as well disclose it now. And I'll I'll
[02:12:47] Unknown:
I will show I think aunt Sally's seen it as well. It's my bunyon on my foot. Woah. Yeah. My nice bunyon. Lovely. And, you know, if you like, I'll show you my growth. Now, actually, it's it's, do do you remember that on was it, oh, what was it? It wasn't Python, was it? A bloke whose uncle had suffered from every disease or something. What was it called here? Can't think of it. Something ripping yarns with Michael. Yeah. And that was classic. But, no, I've got a beautiful bunion. So and what do you think of my bunion arm, Sally? I think he's a very nice bunion. You've seen it. Miles has seen it. Mosey's assistant has seen it, and she's always seen the bunion as well.
[02:13:36] Unknown:
Hey, Chris. I've got a question for you. I've got a question for you. So you know how, feet usually smell a bit cheesy? Mine do. Yeah. Does does that mean you've got cheese and bunion feet? I mean, I mean, you could sell that to walkers. I mean, you know, they'd they'd pay for that one. Yeah.
[02:13:53] Unknown:
No. Could it yes. Eric's cheese and bunion feet.
[02:13:59] Unknown:
But I sure it's for you. Reply with a salt and vinegar. Oh dear. Oh no. I know. Look, I did tell you it's been a weird bloody day. It's it's, you know. Oh, hang on. I'm sorry. He's got two bunions. Yeah. But hers are lovely. Yeah. But mine mine's a lovely bunion. Mine is. Some with big toe. Beautiful bunion. And Sally's got two lovely bunions. Yours is probably a hideous male bunion. We don't really wanna go there. Yes. And, Sally, also, she's thinking of you too, Nathan. She She makes a comment here that you probably would be able to fit women's shoes as well. I don't know who might be in this conversation to take I know. I know. Do you know? Right? It's bad enough being told that you can get a kid's shoes, but when they start saying, no. Have you ever had a look at the women's? Yes. I have. Sawed off. I think I'll get them online. Thanks very much. Bye. Well, you'd be You know, what you want me to wear? You'd be in the with the You'd be in the
[02:14:49] Unknown:
fashion of the day. Yeah. You'd be broke with the fashion of the day. You might make more friends.
[02:14:54] Unknown:
So well well, I hunky tonk.
[02:14:56] Unknown:
I've got enough I've got enough friends. I don't need any more friends. I've got tons of old buggers anyway.
[02:15:04] Unknown:
Anyway, swiftly Yeah. Swiftly moving on. No. Okay. Swiftly moving on. If I will. I've just I've just changed the image in the studio. Oh. Hold on. I'll be on the phone. Which you could should now be able to see. And, you sent me this earlier today or yesterday. This is about an upcoming event that you're in with, Mark Devlin and Steve James. Yeah. Steve's well known because he's on Eric's show every Monday or Sunday. He's on regularly with, with Eric. Yeah. And thought, this is now getting beamed out across Rumble and, YouTube. I thought you might want to say a few words about this. And also, I have a question. Those three wise men in the bottom right hand corner, which one are you? That's what I wanted to know. Probably the one with the small feet, really. Although it's different The one with the small ear, but you can't see the feet, obviously, clearly.
[02:15:50] Unknown:
That's why I didn't ask, you see. Well, I mean, you know, at this rate, I I I go I don't know which one's got the gold. I'll just take the gold and run. I'll take the middle one. There you go. He's got the crown and the gold. There you go. I don't know whether people can see that on YouTube. Is it is it bleeping bleeping out? No. They're about to in a minute. They're about to in a minute. Don't worry. I'm I'm about to actually sort of do something sensible. And actually, I'd forgotten that I've got a two stage beaming process here. So there we are. So it's,
[02:16:16] Unknown:
yeah. So this is you know? This is but I I actually think that Joseph wasn't very good in, shall we say, when he when they handed out brains, he thought they said trains, and he missed these. Because you think your wife gives birth and she's a virgin, and three blokes were arrive on the seat bearing seen raving gifts. Wouldn't you be mildly suspicious? Would you say that? And what are the bleeding gifts? Myrrh. You wanna stick your blade in myrrh. You stick you can't keep the gold. Myrrh? What's that? You know? Well,
[02:16:48] Unknown:
yeah. I mean, I'd I'd So Josh as well. Spices, isn't it? Well, I'd want the gold, yeah. Just just so so do you not know that the the story with with Mary and Joseph? Because, what we're told is that basically she is carrying somebody else's child. Don't get me started on the Immaculate Conception because I can annihilate that one in two seconds, but let me come back to that. So Joseph basically agrees to marry Mary so that she doesn't have to go through all the embarrassment and the, you know, of basically you know bearing a child out of wedlock and things like that. Insofar as immaculate conception, let's just a little bit of wordplay for you. So the initial the original translation for this was 'alma'. So where where you hear the word virgin it comes from the word 'alma' which means 'young maiden'. It doesn't mean necessarily that she was a virgin, it's it's got a three three like there's three different meanings attached to it. 'Young maiden' or 'woman of breeding age' is number two and a a third meaning was was virgin, so obviously the church has taken it as oh well we'll just go for virgin make it all mystical and make it all about immaculate conception' but there you go have a look at the original translations and you'll soon find that it's not it's not as fantastic and as mystical as it as it sounds but there you go.
Just thought I'd throw that in and offend some Christians.
[02:18:08] Unknown:
You know, sorry about that. No. We're all enquirers here but, this event anyway. So it is getting beat out over the platform. Sorry about the delay everybody but I I realized that I pressed the wrong button. What's it about? What are you doing? What's the date and everything? You've got a little sort of window here to do some salesmanship. December 17. What day is that? What day is the seventeenth?
[02:18:30] Unknown:
Right. Okay. So the December 17. So I'm probably gonna get shot for saying this. We didn't do this deliberately before anyone accuses us of of it, but basically, the December 17 coincides with the Roman festival of Saturnalia. So you know there's that but the basically it's a Wednesday It's a Wednesday you know, it is. So what it what it is is there's a lot of esoteric stuff around Christmas, around the sun, around the constellations, the zodiac and you know things like that. So Steve, James and myself have done in the past presentations which cover this and cover the esoteric history, the esoteric tradition behind Christmas, and look at the similarities between that and other traditions as well as looking at the the you know the occult meaning of it, the mystical part to it. And it is genuinely fascinating. It's you know you look into things like reindeers and and phrygian hats, because there's just so much stuff there. The three wise men as you can see from the graphic I don't know whether it's on there but that that certainly seems to insinuate a certain star constellation preceding you know Sirius which goes back to the Egyptian Horus and and Isis and you know Osiris and Isis basically.
Right I'm gonna get back on track so yeah we've got we've got three presentations from Mark Devlin, Steve James and myself. It's an all day event, it starts at 12:00 in the evening goes all the way until 8PM, you'll be able to buy Mark's books, you'll be able to buy my books at the presentations as well, so for anyone who's interested there is a there is a link there to book tickets, there's the address on the poster, so if anyone wants to get in touch you know, my address if anyone's got a pen handy, if you want further details on this occasion I'll try and answer my emails as quickly as possible which is nathan luciusphpgmail dot com. So if anyone's got any questions come through on that, otherwise if you want to book a ticket it's on the poster.
There you go. I'm not a salesman, I'm shit at doing this kind of stuff, I'm alright putting posters and things together, but I'm absolutely terrible at selling my own stuff. So Steve James is better at doing that than I am. But anyway, anyone who's interested please would love to see you come along, it's a fantastic trio, I'm gonna say that because I'm part of it, and there's a lot of stuff to learn and there's a lot of esoteric details in there that I think people will find fascinating even if they don't agree with it it's fine, you know it's not to offend anybody but you know get yourselves along, see if you can learn something mystical and festive, have a nice Christmas, have a drink while you're there and, you know, have a chat with myself, Mark, and Steve. So, you know, just just get yourselves over there if you can. It's a bit out the way, though,
[02:21:08] Unknown:
in Seaton Dela. Is that so just on your email address, that's nathannathanluciusphp@gmail.com.
[02:21:15] Unknown:
Was it g mail dot com? That's the one. Okay. Yeah. So I've I've just put that in the chat in both the chats. Well, I've I've put it in the rumble chat. I'll just add it in Yeah. I was gonna say, I think you the reason I put my address in two halves is because YouTube doesn't like you to put that kind of thing in there, so it kinda senses it out. So the reason I put my email in two halves, is for that reason. So I don't know whether it'll come across any better on your, like, on your comments, but that's why I've done that.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
Well, I typed it in. It's bound to come across. No. I've put it in with the the whole thing's in there. So that's okay. It should be there unless it doesn't pop up. And that's alright. That's fine. So get in touch with Nathan about this event if you, are able to make it up to Seaton Terrace Social Club. And whereabouts is Seaton Terrace Social Club roughly? It's in North Umbria Land, which is where he comes from. Yeah. Isn't it North Umbria Land, now now known as North Umberland? Whereabouts is where's is that a big place, Seaton, or where's the nearest big city or town? The nearest
[02:22:16] Unknown:
so again so this is near Steve. So thank you to Steve and his wife for for, you know, securing the venue for us. I mean, that's that's that's the date that we could get so we had to you know we've worked with what we've what we've got but it's up in it's up in, I think the closest place to it is Blythe which is just North Of Newcastle so again if anyone needs directions Google Maps will tell you where it is. Well done. Just North Of Newcastle. Just North Of Newcastle. Yeah. It's about an hour North of Newcastle.
[02:22:45] Unknown:
45 miles. Is it something like that? 40 miles from Newcastle?
[02:22:48] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a pleasant little place to go though. I mean, we've we've had a couple of of like, sound baths on the beach in the past as well which is which is I think that was there as well which is where we've basically had a sound bath and slept on the beach all night which has been absolutely fantastic. I think the first one we did was on the, summer solstice. Right. Yep. So that was that was very nice. And then the second one was kind of September ish, but there was I think it was September, but it was a bit chilly then. So I don't think we'll be doing a winter solstice one.
[02:23:18] Unknown:
No. So it's basically five weeks as of yesterday. Yes. Isn't it? Yeah. Five weeks as of yesterday, which was a Wednesday. So Yeah. Okay. Well, I I'm not making any promises. So I've got very large feet. I don't know whether they'll let me into Northumbria. Well, you know, you'll have you'll have to pass the killer test, won't you? I'm the thing is, Wednesday, it'll be a bugger for me to get back to do the show. That would be the problem.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
But, you know, I can't remember Christmas holiday on the show. I was gonna say you've got an option there, mate. I'll give you I'll give you an option. If you wanna do this the show, why don't you come and stop with me for a couple of nights and you can broadcast from here? And you'd be quite welcome to do that if you like.
[02:23:55] Unknown:
But I'd have to look at your feet then. Wow. Well, let me think about chicken galleys. Well, I'm due to head up north to Yorkshire to see relations and all that kind of thing at some point. Oh, okay. And, yeah. I was even looking to buy a car to I haven't had a car for ages. First time in my life since about 20 that I've not had a car. I haven't missed it at all. There were all sorts of reasons. And I keep looking at hiring them, renting cars. And the amount of times I go on long journeys, it's actually gonna be much more cost effective for me to just rent a car for, like, four or five days. They they're cheap as chips these days. They don't cost much. And I'm thinking that's what I might do. Anyway, this is really rather tedious for everybody who might not be going. But if you if you are going, that's, Nathan's the guy to get in touch with. Nathanlussiusphp@gmail.com.
We put it in the chat here on Rumble and YouTube.
[02:24:46] Unknown:
It's on the image somewhere, although you'll have to blow it up full screen, I guess, if you listen to the audio. So the bottom left, it'll give you a little a little link to where you can get your tickets from. You can communicate. It's it's like Kofi coffee. It's like, you know, basically buy me a coffee, but it's I'm new to it so Holly set that up for me the other day. You can communicate with me through that but if you do book your tickets online through the Kofi app, please remember to put your name and email address with it so that I know, you know, who's basically booked you know it's and obviously that'll secure your place. There's plenty of seats available, there's plenty of you know that I don't really think we're gonna fill the hall.
It's a fair size by all accounts so but anyway, no I mean look it'll be festive, it'll be mystical, it'll be very educational. Mark Devlin's got a new a new pod not podcast he's got a new presentation as well which is all linked into equinoxes and solstices and he's obviously linked it into his own work about the music industry.
[02:25:42] Unknown:
But, you know, get yourselves along. By the way, anyone who's never met Mark Sounds a really good afternoon and evening out, actually. Sounds really good. Have you sorted your running order then? Or is there who's going on first? Who's going on last? Do you know? Yeah. No. I've been being asked about this. So You're drawing straws on it. Well Maybe maybe it's gonna be an ascending feet size, Nathan, or descending. It all depends. Oh, it looks like we're going first, doesn't it? Well well, if it's descending, you might might be last. Who knows?
[02:26:11] Unknown:
Well, I'm thinking we need Mark on an evening. So, obviously, with it being a Wednesday, you know, people are still probably going to work. I know it's the end of the season. It's the end of the the, you know, the last week. That? Yeah. I think this is all mean. You can go sickie. I mean, if anyone needs to pull a sickie, there's plenty of excuses. Just tell them you've all got COVID. You know? Oh, damn it. There's your channel gone. Sorry.
[02:26:32] Unknown:
Well What's that? I don't know what you're talking about. Really? Oh, it's not working. That up. Why is it coming back? Is it? Yay. COVID too. Probably. Can't wait. Just when you call it safe to go out into the street and buy some sausages, it's back. So, yeah, that that'll be well, I don't know. It'll give us more material for future shows. We can sort of rerun the whole thing. Although, I think everybody's kind of exhausted with that madness.
[02:26:57] Unknown:
But maybe they feel they've got leverage lifting it. Yeah. Let's leave that one. Just, can I can I, do a little bit more advertising here as well of so Steve Steve James and myself, we've we've started a new podcast series? Because I'm always delayed doing stuff, I've not uploaded the videos yet, but they will go live. We've got two so far. There's another one coming at the end of the week with with we've got a guest hopefully lined up for that one. So when that's up and running, I'll I'll link that to to various channels through Telegram and stuff. So if anyone's interested, you know, Steve James and now we've we've got a channel that investigates things like natural law, you know, the occult mystical stuff, little bit on conspiracy related issues, it's, you know, it's any anybody who likes what Steve and I talk about it will be on there. It's, you know, we try not to make it too serious, we're trying to keep it a little bit upbeat whilst whilst just getting it, you know, putting a few presentations in there as well.
I'll let you know when it's up and running, but it's all linked into this. And the reason I've gone for a Christmas, seminar is, again, because of the the the secret traditions behind it. I think people will find fascinating especially when they look into things like Santa Claus and Krampus and mushrooms, especially things like that. Elves, you know, don't you know, elves obviously with small feet. And, there's tons of stuff in there. What about Randolph the brown nosed reindeer? Randolph the brown nosed reindeer. Interesting. I'm not making comments on that, mate. I'm I'm I'm making no Actually, Randolph the brown nosed round brown nosed reindeer
[02:28:25] Unknown:
actually ran behind Rudolph and had problems with stopping.
[02:28:30] Unknown:
I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. And you know this you know this obviously because you were a reindeer rider, and, and you and you made you made on the flyer, Gary. Do do you know do you know where where the idea oh, just sorry. Just just to interrupt, do you know where the idea of flying reindeer came from? Where did it come from, Nathan? Right, okay, so so probably people in the chat will already know this but basically so you know you had the Viking, the Berserker gang, you know the ones that basically went into battle naked with an axe, actually two axes I think in some occasions, so basically what they would do A bit like Leeds United supporters.
Yeah, not that bad. Not that bad. But anyway they would get the fly agaric mushroom and basically consume one which would send them into this, you know, tripped upstate this this delusional drugged upstate where where they would see all kinds of trippy psychedelic stuff and they would charge into battle with the full intent of never surviving the battle. But what they what they found is that the fly agaric is actually quite toxic to humans in, you know, basic consumption. So they would feed it to their reindeers who would then basically filter out the toxins and, you know, urinate out the the the toxin, you know, the sorry, the potion, basically, so that you would then consume that as a as a, psychedelic drug, which obviously if you see reindeer, which you'd have had a lot of in in Scandinavia, you know, that sort of like Nordic locations, you're gonna see some really trippy stuff. You know, elves, people riding riding reindeer, flying reindeer, probably, you know, weirder stuff than that, I would imagine. But, yeah, there's there's a tradition behind that. Hence, the mushroom So you lost me a bit when you're saying that they would give it to the reindeer.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
The reindeer would urinate the toxins out. Well, they would so so
[02:30:23] Unknown:
they they would they would filter out the toxins and then and then they'd urinate basically the the the purified version of the of the mushroom so it's so that they they could then consume that
[02:30:32] Unknown:
as a as a cycle. So the Vikings were drinking reindeer
[02:30:36] Unknown:
urine. Is that what you're saying? I I I think I think lots of I think lots of people were doing this even far beyond the Vikings. I think this went far into the Christian era and, up until modern well, obviously, clearly, there's a tradition, you know, there's Christmas traditions to do with this as well. So, yeah, it's it's it's an interesting one. Seriously, that's
[02:30:55] Unknown:
that's where the word pissed comes from. Seriously. That that's where it comes from. Oh, hey. Tell us a tell us a bit about that. Well, apparently, the the the actual, medicine men used to drink these sort of this this used to have these funny mushrooms that sent them onto a trip. And the idea was you collect their wee wee, and that would send you on a trip as well. And that's where the seriously, that's where the term pissed comes from. Yeah. So people drink piss. And then that is serious. I'm not saying that's a joke. That actually was a serious thing. So, it's a bit like the old, saying, pissed as a newt.
Now that didn't exist in Great Britain before the Americans came here in World War two because what they used to say is pissed as an Inuit. But up in Norfolk, where a lot of the American air force bases were, they misheard what they said, and they thought they were saying pissed as an newt. But it wasn't. It was pissed as an Inuit because members of the Inuit tribe were always drunk. So there we are, a little bit more Nice. Info. Not many people know that. I'll come out on some of the things. Bad combination,
[02:32:03] Unknown:
I suspect. A bit like Apaches and whiskey
[02:32:07] Unknown:
doesn't work for them very, very bad. I mean, it doesn't work for me either, mate, but I'm drinking it anyway. So Yes. There we go. But it looks a nice place to put you up on,
[02:32:15] Unknown:
Wikipedia. Whitley Bay, that looked very picturesque, as my dad used to say. Picturesque. Squeeze? Just picturesque. It's a lovely place. Yes.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
So, date right. So in in YouTube comments, Daisy's there. So day Daisy's co organizing this with myself and Steve. So, you know, if if anyone's got any questions, please feel free to ask in the comments. I'll answer as best as I can. I'm a terrible salesman, but I'm I'm good at presenting stuff. So Well, I got a question.
[02:32:41] Unknown:
Go for it. Why not why not go live on the Internet so we could all see it at the same time?
[02:32:48] Unknown:
Potentially, yeah. Here's a question. Well, my laptop is probably capable of recording it, but I'd need a I'd need a microphone,
[02:32:57] Unknown:
to go with it. Mhmm. But but so that's potentially potential. They both have got WiFi. There's, terrorist stuff.
[02:33:05] Unknown:
BBC. Call it the local BBC thing. Tell them that you've been paying your TV license, you want a bit of money back, and they can send a crew up and film it all. I mean, I'm sure they'd be happy to accommodate. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm sure. Yeah. So, you know, and you won't mention that they, they've been editing newsreels and making mister Trump look like an evil, posse. Is Trump the savior? No. No way. He is, apparently. I read it in the newspaper. It must be true. Yeah. It must be true. Somebody said it. It's very I mean, he's a good example really of this sort of mix mash of good stuff and bad stuff, isn't he?
Very much so. There's I mean, there's just the there's these sort of ridiculous things that he says. And then there's these good things that he says, you know, that you go, oh, well, that's alright. But unfortunately, they tend to get counteracted, by some of the madness that he says all the time, you know. There's a lot of that going on. Somebody sent me something through today, a little observation. How about this? This is, oh, this is from Andrew Torbert who's the head of Gap. So he put a little tweet out or an x, whatever you wanna call it. I quite like this. He says, so Trump's message to the American people this week, you're too dumb to build things. We need 500,000 pajeets a year to fill the jobs.
You're too dumb for college. We need 600,000 Chinese to fill the school slots. You're too poor. Here's a fifty year mortgage and a one time petty check for $2,000 to get you on your way. You're not struggling financially. The stock market's doing great. Here's my new gold plated room in the White House. I think that pretty much sums it up. Did I I I did catch his comment about these 600,000 Chinese students coming in. The comment was, oh, the colleges need them. Otherwise, they'll go out of business. What kind of cack handed benefit is that? This is just retarded stuff. Of course, basically, what he really needs to say is, oh, by the way, I actually work for the globalist too. Hello. Here's my credentials.
[02:35:00] Unknown:
That's the reason. Of course they do. Of course they bloody do. I mean, it's, you know, you don't really you don't get that kind of opportunity unless you're working for the, for for the side that funds you. Again, there's a financial institutions, isn't it? It's all with they're always in the background. Those lovely financial institutions and the policy makers, BlackRock and Vanguard, they're always there as well. So, you know, everyone's even if even if they're not originally, even if they put new platforms up or the, you know, something creative and original, eventually they'll offer you a price. And I my personal philosophy is everybody has a price. I know people argue against this, but it you know, I'm not necessarily talking about money. Everybody has a price.
[02:35:37] Unknown:
So, you know, let's let's be realistic. Yeah. Mine's at least 17 shillings and 6p if anybody's out there thinking about what it is. Right. It is or it's 2 guineas, depending on the weekend. That's really what it is. Speaking of strange things going off in the media or interesting things in the media or sort of dovetailing, that's the third time I've used that word, back into that. Mike Graham. Are you familiar with who Mike Graham is?
[02:36:03] Unknown:
Have you heard of him? Isn't he something to do with GB News or something? Am I thinking of the right guy? Talk Radio.
[02:36:10] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. He was on Talk Radio. Right? And, he, he basically he put a tweet up, oh, no. Sorry. He put a Facebook post up a few weeks ago, which has got him removed from the station. Oh. And he said at the time, my account was hacked. Possibly this is true. I don't know. I don't really care one way or the other. He was then supposed to sort of work with them. Anyway, Julia Hartley Brewer, who's so his show is 6AM or was 6AM to 10AM Monday to Friday. I don't know how you do that. I think he has to get up at 04:30 in the morning. His energy is amazing. And and of all the mainstream news things that you could listen to, it's the one that's closest to this. It still means it's a long way off, but he's in you can feel it in his intention. He's aware of what's going on.
So it was a very lively show and very well followed. And if it's the breakfast show, it means it's the biggest show on the network. It's that's how radio works. The biggest one is the is the breakfast show. 6AM to 10AM is a big hall. Anyway, Julia Hartley Brewer, made an announcement either today I'm trying to look at the date on this recently, this week. Anyway, I'm I'm just gonna play it to you. This is a minute and twenty four seconds because this shows you about the perils as it were in a way of the mainstream media. This is what she had to say. Welcome back to the show. This is talk. We are the home of common sense. It's two minutes past twelve. We are gonna go straight to p and q's just a few moments. But as you will have heard
[02:37:44] Unknown:
in the news, that, News UK, the parent company of the station talk, has made the following statement. Their statement reads as follows, we were made aware of an abhorrent and vile post on Mike Graham's social platform several weeks ago. Mike Graham said this was not posted by him, and he agreed to cooperate with a company investigation using an independent forensic firm. He later reneged on several opportunities to cooperate with the company investigation. We have been gravely concerned at his repeated failure to cooperate on such a serious matter, and the decision has been made, has been taken that Mike Graham will not return to talk.
I'm afraid, that is as much as I can say, on that matter. I know that is going to cause a lot of upset and a lot of concern for a lot of our audience who've been with us for a very, very long time. But that is the official statement from the parent company of Talk. And, and that is, that is where we are at, in terms of Mike Graham, who will not be returning to this station. Let me introduce you to my guest in the studio.
[02:38:58] Unknown:
So there we go. He's got She's a nauseating little shit, isn't she? Sorry sorry to interrupt there, but she's one of the she is an absolutely establishment in the bloody core, that one. I can't stand her.
[02:39:10] Unknown:
They're all under pressure, really. I suspect their private communications in the cafe are probably much closer to what we talk about than you could imagine. But you see, again, they've all got pensions hanging over their head and stuff like this. Now Mike Mike Graham, I actually because, we relay that show courtesy of WBN, on Radio Soapbox. We've been doing that for a few months. We haven't been doing it for the last few weeks. We've been relaying whoever's been sitting in to that spot. I don't know who it is, but it it won't be as good. Not that the person is not necessary, but it just won't be because he was prepared and often went up to the edge of things, you know, where where sort of nimbly going up to the edge of the precipice and looking into it and go, there's all the truth. I can't tell you the truth, but I can tell you what it looks like from a distance. It's that kind of thing. Anyway, what what's he's put out a little message. I've got some sympathy for him. This doesn't mean I'm a complete 100% fan. There'll be things that Eul have said on the show that I would vehemently disagree with that you can say this about everybody. But at least he was pushing in the right direction right direction about the restoration of this nation. That was a theme, you know, you can feel it in the way that he's talking about things. The only person I'm aware of out there that was doing such a thing, particularly on a major platform. So I think we can say was the number one radio news breakfast show in The UK, I think it must have been.
He wouldn't have been given the slot otherwise. The the best bit about the show was the calls in from the general public are extremely encouraging. And this is what I would say is that this soft communications approach, you can feel it. People are being very careful with how they make their criticisms, but you know what they're criticizing. I'm going back to that Enoch Powell clip as well. They're addressing this because it is the issue of the day. People are seeing it glaringly that the government are literally behaving in a treasonous and treacherous way towards the British people, which they obviously are. But you're talking to people who are calling for what it is. Sorry sorry. I mean I didn't
[02:41:13] Unknown:
No. I was gonna say this this is a massive thing, isn't it? Look. Our our own government is now committing treason. I mean, they are putting other people's sorry. Other nations' people, other nations' priorities before their own. That in and of itself is is treason, and it needs to be called out for what it is. They do not have the best interests of the people of this country, and that is their sole purpose. It's, you know, they're supposed to be public servants. They're supposed to serve the public, and they're not they're not doing that. They're completely traitorous and treasonous.
[02:41:42] Unknown:
Yeah. They're gonna get arrested. Yeah. They are. It's not even a debate. It's just an ob it's an observation that's true. It's an observation. It's just an observation that's true. And, you know, it's not that we're trying to sort of harm people. It's just that we prefer the truth, frankly. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think Mike Graham does as well. I've I've seen his post. I thought I had it up here, but I was gonna read it. It's not very long. It's just a photograph. The gist of it was, look, I went outside this morning and there are no English people here. That was the gist of it. Right? Yeah. I just see all these people,
[02:42:12] Unknown:
and I don't see my people around in the streets. Well, this is the and she what what was she told to describe it? She didn't write that. Right? That's an editorial thing that she was given to test for now. Script, isn't it? It's a script. She was given it to it's it's always the same. Even a bloody author, it was a a script. So she yeah. Complete complete establishment. Anyway, sorry to interrupt
[02:42:30] Unknown:
again. No no you're not. No it's it's all part of it and I think, so the idea of if we were to take, what we do and what others do to the next stage, we'd we would need a much higher degree of organization, promotion, marketing, yes, those dreaded things, to get the word out. But we actually all you really need is one or two excellent voices of which you would have to say he is one within the, the, you know, the the professional standards of of actual broadcasting as opposed to wonderful anarchic punk broadcasting that we do here, which I love, of course. But he's very very good and, in that he fits a certain slot. Of course, he's not going the whole way. You don't expect him to talk about the real heavy stuff. I don't. You'd be foolish to think that he would. But the idea of this is part of the nudge unit, our nudge unit. Nudging it back to where we want it to be nudged to. Anyway, I understand he he's put a little sort of video comment thanking everybody that's written to him. He's he's got a huge amount of support from his actual listener base, many of whom have said, I won't be listening to the station anymore because it's the only reason I tuned in was for you. This kind of stuff. So in other words, it's backfired on them. It's that's that's brilliant. That I mean, that is positive in and of itself. It's backfired. Their their effects sorry. Their their attempts to control the outlet of information has backfired because it got rid of one. Interesting. Of course. It all depends who we think we're defining when we use they in reference to them because it's possible, is it not, that the heads of the station were called onto the carpet to get rid of him by something higher up the food chain. That's highly likely, because they've got to guard certain things with regard to their advertisers. There's all this sort of other pressure that comes on them. We can't we're not we're gonna pull our advertising if you let that this is how newspapers have always been controlled. They've always been controlled through the media purchasers, the people that buy the ad space in newspapers. This is how they used to control it in the twenties and thirties. You're not running that editorial. Otherwise, you're gonna lose the Colgate account. We're not gonna place any more advertising with you. And newspapers, just like radio stations in in in mainstream media, can't survive without the income. They've got to pay their staff. I mean, producing the news is basically a lost leader. It's colossal amount of time gathering this stuff through. They've got legal departments that, you know, that have swollen in size because they're all guarding against one another getting sued, you know, by the Fockem Hult Sewers, of course, of the best of the world.
Yeah. Anyway, he's setting up his own he's set up his own YouTube channel. There's nothing there. It will probably become very popular. If I can find a way of porting it live into Radio Soapbox, I will do that. We'll definitely sort of bring it onto a radio thing. But, so we will see. He's gonna be like, is he our equivalent of Alex Jones twenty five years after the fact? Possibly. I don't know. But it, I'm empathetic towards him. I am. I don't agree with everything he says. But you can see that when he puts posts up, if you see some of the sort of criticisms of his posts, they are from the purple haired, blue you know blue dyed hair. The wall brigade.
Yeah. Absolutely. And, and they get hammered by his loyal supporters, which is wonderful to see. This thing is basically, this communications needs to be out in the open all the time. People will go home and find out that they didn't die, that they weren't talking to people that wanted to kill them. That's actually what the great strength of this is. If we it's a bit like if we keep our powder dry, they're dying to goad people, I think, in this space into doing something incredibly stupid. And we'll be sending their agents into this space to provoke that. As Eric has mentioned all the time, all these things get infiltrated.
[02:46:13] Unknown:
But I think our detection of infiltrators is also very high because as they conduct all these exercises against us, they're actually tuning us up. We're getting sharper at it just naturally by hanging around the special game. I absolutely agree with that. Yeah. I mean, which is a good again, this is this is a good thing. This is a step in the right direction. In in one way This is a good thing. Isn't it? Well, yeah. They're doing our work for us in one respect because they they you know, it's the Streisand effect, isn't it? They're basically creating the opposite effect of what they're going for because they're trying to control too much. They're trying to control a narrative. And what I've found is the more you try and control somebody, the more they're gonna rebel against you unless you've got something on them. If you've got something on them, that's different. Otherwise they'll rebel against it. Nobody likes being controlled.
[02:46:54] Unknown:
No they don't. And the radio stations are controlled. They'll have their license removed. Yep. You gotta you know, I'm not saying that some of the people in the radio station are not in agreement with this. Some will be. But there will be chunks this is a large organization, news organizer, and they have interdepartmental warfare. They just do. You know, you have these editorial you see it in films don't you? It's absolutely true. I want to publish this story, you can't. I'm not letting you publish it. Big fight with you, and he said, I'll fire you. You know, this that and the other. This goes on because individuals hit a point where they go the truth is actually more important than my future. Now he's got such a following that he will be able to survive this, you know. And it's it's really quite interesting that we've got this going on here in the radio world with him, who I think commands a much more respected audience than the BBC does. So he's been ejected out in this space. The head of the BBC or whoever's just left, they've been caught red handed lying and manipulating the news on a much much larger scale.
And they've been fighting so it's both of these things, both of them are good. They're both good things for people who are like us who are seeking to nudge this back to a sane, honest, open, and frank communication about the issues that really are striking us as Enoch Powell was iterating forty odd years ago in that clip that I played. These things are key. I think people begin to understand the process. So for most of, the sort of consumer's life, they they have not been able to see the wood for the trees. And now people are standing back, going off doing a bit of research, getting a broader panoramic view of what's going on and they're beginning to see the wood. And they see that it's dark and that it's rotten and it doesn't matter how much they know about the trees, don't go in there. It's a shithole. And this is what and this is, like, this is really I get quite excited about this because it's about understanding the context in which all this content comes to you. And once you get that the context is warped, you can dismiss the content because you begin to see it for the mind controls claptrap that it is. And this is great. This is a really good thing. It is. Well, by the way, Patrick would like to come on if that's okay. I just said I'll be sending it to you. No. I'm not. Okay. Thanks, Pat. I'm not doing it. No. I'm not adding any more in because we had we had such a hullabaloo. So I'm sorry to be like that. We'll do that another time. But, I've kept it like this on purpose. I wanted to have a few fewer voices in. I think it was the problem it is it's not the problem.
I got I I so enjoyed just you and me on Tuesday Eric, it sent off a lot of little mail bombs in my head and I just thought generally we've had too many, I've had too many voices around the microphone on the show it's kind of just gone that way and it tends to not work as as well as I think it could and I think tonight's worked better for me personally. I don't know what the audience thinks, but I'm just trying to keep the voices reduced. So don't take it personally, Patrick, but not not today. I'm not Yeah. Patrick, take it personally. That's it. That's it. Take it personally, mate. That's it. Take it just take your son off. Totally your son off. So little boots. Yeah. You know, we we you're not wanted, mate. At least you haven't got size six feet, Patrick. So it's not all bad. So, you know, it could be worse. You might not be able to stand up after two weeks whiskeys, which is what Nathan's doing. But, Well, I mean, you know, there's one. What is a big glass of whiskey? I'm probably gonna start slurring in a minute anyway.
[02:50:16] Unknown:
Just ignore me. Ignore me, people. I'm just I'm full of crap. Anyway, you carry on.
[02:50:21] Unknown:
No. I I well, I was just I mean, this is sort of the last point I'd had down on a sort of little agenda to talk about, but I'm very encouraged by this. I mean, not that maybe many people later have never tuned into him, and you're probably gonna find it rather sort of bland of bland fair in comparison to more intense sort of research con conversations that maybe you listen to, and I'm glad you do. And I listen to them as well. Well, not as much as I used to. But he's he's just a good voice, and he's he's pushing in this direction. So it's, you know, when we use the word we, we've got a wide variety of people involved in this. So all sorts of different levels of understanding and abilities. We just like any group of people that's what you're gonna have. But any sort of little step like this which is actually not that little is good. So I'm I'm hoping that his show thrives.
We'll see how YouTube treat him.
[02:51:13] Unknown:
I think I think again he's probably gonna be the next Russell Brand type figure. He's he's already got an existing audience so they'll just transfer from one platform to another. I mean who doesn't use YouTube these days? I'm not I'm not a fan of YouTube, but I'm not not a fan of YouTube if that makes sense. It does the job. The information's still accessible. I mean, there's so much content now that, you know, take your pick. I mean, the one the one good thing that's come out of this is the more they try and censor us, the more people appear to be pushing back. That and that's that's brilliant. There's all and again there's another way of looking at this there's always going to be a way to find it.
If people want it they'll find it. The information will get out, the truth will get out eventually. And I think I think generally, mate, speaking about the the population in general, I think there's a lot of investigation going on, I think there's a lot of distrust of the government, there's a lot of distrust in the media, people are starting to ask questions about things like digital ID, the technocratic infrastructure, you know things like biometrics, that that, you know, it's not going down too well. They need this to further their agenda. They can't get any further without this digital ID. It stops there. So they need the immigration and they need the digital ID. Without those two things, their agenda is stalled.
So let's keep stalling it.
[02:52:25] Unknown:
Yeah. You just we run as much interference as we're able to do without acting solidly and giving them co as we can possibly do. I I somebody sent me a clip. I think, unfortunately, Ireland have got a new prime minister, some Bint. And I call her a bint because she's part of the she just and I somebody said, I'm not playing the speech. It's just repellent nonsense. It's just childish guff talking about climate change and all these things. But as I was listening to it, I couldn't help but sort of smile thinking the traction on that argument has gone.
It's absolutely gone. They still are talking as if they think that the audience is with them. This is gonna keep on doing it. I want them to keep on doing this. It's fantastic. Because it's it's it's reached a very gentle sort of dismissal from a lot of people and that's very powerful. It's like it's just a casual laugh and you just throw it away. It doesn't have any bite. It's like this word being a racist. That's going as well. It's absolutely gonna go.
[02:53:22] Unknown:
One of the things I mentioned earlier that? Do you know who's created racism? The government. Because they're the ones that have made a massive deal out of it, and now they've accused everyone of racism. Now it's a massive issue. I was never racist. I don't think you've ever been racist. I don't think, you know, most of the people in the chat, I suspect have never been racist.
[02:53:39] Unknown:
Am racist, Nathan. Nathan, I am racist. No. No. Hear me out. Hear me out. Because it's a misunderstood thing. Right? Every single individual on the face of the earth is a racist. Every single one. It's completely normal. What does it mean? It doesn't mean anything, it's completely mad. The only group that can be accused of it in a negative way are white people, right? But the actual truth of it is you look at any group using more psycho language is there are in group preferences. That's what that's what it's called. It's completely normal.
It's totally normal. You could call me a familyist. Yeah I am. Familyist. I'm studying the music again. Gender again. For my family you see. Why? Because they're my closest, warmest, dearest in group that I've got, that I'm ever gonna have, that I've ever had, that any individual usually has. And it's just an extension of that. It doesn't mean, although it's come to mean that but this is getting broken down, it doesn't mean you sit around hating other people. No one's got the time or the energy for doing such nonsensical fictional crap. I know there are a few goofballs that they wheeled out who are sort of slobbering all over the place and say they're all like that. No.
A a racist is just a it's a term that was coined by Lev Bronstein, that creditable individual better known as Trotsky, to demonize the Russians to get them locked up. Well, it's just a rerun of 1932. They've just applied it here. Why? Because it's come through the Fabian Society and all that. So they they use the same playbook over and over and over and over again. And what's happened is a lot of people have caught onto it and they're going nah. Forget it, mate. Yeah. So you got your races and your point is what exactly? Sorry. You want me to cry or something? Ridiculous.
[02:55:25] Unknown:
No. I've just it's just something else. Sorry. I'm I'm I'm deviating back to to the original, like, the the topic of conversation. So you're you just mentioned the Fabian Society there, which, you know, Labour Party, Fabian Society, Tony Blair, and you've got Orwell on the front of your of your show's, cast. That's right. Well Orwell, whose real name was Eric Blair, who wrote about a dystopian future, who was under the the the tutorship or or or you know let's say the guidance of Aldous Huxley from the same establishment who was also spouting the same thing then we have things like you know Sigmund Freud's nephew, I forgot his bloody name though, who was you know basically thank you, Edward Bernays, who who used to, you know, explain how propaganda works and and and introduce that into the media and explain how that could manipulate people.
All of this to me is blatantly linked, you know, okay, maybe there's no maybe there's no relationship between Eric Blair and Tony Blair. Personally, I think there might be. I mean, it's a bit too much of a coincidence, but but I can't say that because I've not looked into it. But but all of that to me, you know, linking it to the Fabian society, which links into communism, which links into, you know,
[02:56:39] Unknown:
very very long. It's long in the making. It's long in the making. One other one other wonderful little quirk, I'm glad you've mentioned this at the end, is that 1984 is specifically that year because the Fabian Society was formed in 1884. Which which leads to what you were saying about that media, you know, the media article earlier in America. It's all linked. But even the Fabian Society started off on a good footing. I probably. I'm just gonna guess that it did, it doesn't all these little groups that have got that gain power that have, wealthy or highly intelligent individuals form them often start off with a good intent.
And it's a machine that comes to the attention of the of the disruptive class and they get their placement in there and bend it away from the key thing. Masonry is the same. Masonry was this collection of stonemasons.
[02:57:33] Unknown:
But even even then, and
[02:57:35] Unknown:
then they got bent away. And that's what they do, they bend it away to another agenda because they've got powerful competent people. That's, you know, if you form a society you're organized, you're competent, you can finance things, you can organize meetings. These things are skills which most people don't acquire in life. So they're immediately attracted to where there's a power center and then they immediately begin to corrupt it, like an honorably elected democratic government or any of the institutions that we've set up. Every single one gets tunneled into and warped away and then we say, well they're all bad, well they're not. It's a little bit more complex than that. But the overall design and purpose of these things now is to harm society at large and most of the people in it, just like in the media and law and all these areas we've talked about tonight, are fearful of their own life.
[02:58:20] Unknown:
Starts with their mind, so they can I I I don't even think it's that, mate? The reason they are now going hell bent for this agenda is because I think, genuinely, they're fee they fear losing control. That's that's what they really don't wanna lose. All of these you've just mentioned masonry there, and again, there's a lot of there's a lot of esoteric references that you can get from masonry, and it will it will it will broaden your outlook, broaden your perception, increase your understanding. It's not all bad, but, obviously, these things have come along and have been have been controlled from the inside out for people who want more money, more power, more control, they wanna elevate themselves in society, and the next thing, you know, it's been corrupted and controlled from an external source.
[02:58:57] Unknown:
You know? I I I agree. I I think there's all these threads, They're all present. I don't which is the main one. I don't really know. But I'm also of the view that the people that are behind all this would rather blow the world up and kill everyone than lose control. In their worldview, there is no future for the planet that does not include them as being in control of it. So any option that where they're not in control, they will wreak as much havoc as they can. And it's a bit like don't corner a rabid dog in an alley. Don't. Make sure it's got an escape route of some sort. We need a higher occult force to step in and do this, but we've got to show that we're worthy of it. I mean, you know, I've gone slightly tenuous there, but something maybe that we can't possibly anticipate right now, I would appreciate greatly coming on the scene to sort of put these things right
[02:59:49] Unknown:
and to get us sorted out in that particular way you know so. Can can I just sorry just before the the show ends can I just chip in there? Just meant an a you know an an occult force. People have got to get over this fear of the word occult. They've got to understand what it means. It's not what they think it is. It's not negative. It's not evil. It's just a word that refers to hidden information anyway. Just thought I'd chip in with that before the show ends. Ends. That's it. Well, I'm no doubt you'll be covering that a great deal up at your event. But, Seaton Terrace, fantastic.
[03:00:18] Unknown:
Eric and Nathan's been fantastic having you tonight. I've really enjoyed your show. Really loves. Yes. Yep. Been a lot of fun, a lot of good stuff. Thank you. Shout out to everybody in Rumble and YouTube chats for your valuable contributions. I've been cleaning them all. We've mentioned a few. If you wanna go to, Nathan's event, email him nathanlusiusphp@gmail.com. That's nathanlusiusphp@gmail.com. We'll be back again same time next week. Till then, have a jolly good time of it. Enjoy the lovely November weather. I'm told it's going to turn by a lady today who had a dog and was very serious with me. It's gonna be terrible, she said. And I told her to stop watching the TV as I mentioned earlier. Till then, keep great. We'll see you all same time next week. Bye for now, everybody. Bye bye. Ta ta. Bye bye.
[03:01:14] Unknown:
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[03:01:20] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Opening monologue, gloomy weather, episode setup
Eric Blair (George Orwell) and theme: media mendacity
BBC edits of Trump and trust in mainstream media
Guest Eric von Essex joins; BBC criticism escalates
BBC culture, dramas, and "woke" agenda debate
Psychopathy in leadership and institutional capture
BBC, military, and Freemasonry links; Eric’s experiences
Savile, elite protection, and historic scandals
Public schools, social conditioning, and power structures
Music break: Van Morrison "Educating Archie" and returns
Nathan Lucius joins; tech woes, health asides, Windows vs Linux
Media satire, humor detours, and keeping spirits up
Orwell, propaganda history, and John Swinton’s speech
Enoch Powell clip; immigration, truth, and party constraints
Transition to hour 3: Van Morrison "They Own the Media"
Mark Levin clip and reaction; media control theme
Event promo: Christmas esoterica with Mark Devlin & Steve James
Saturnalia, symbols, and psychedelic Christmas lore
TalkRadio’s Mike Graham removed; censorship and audiences
Fabian Society, Orwell-Huxley, propaganda lineage; close
