Paul English Live 081425 The 100th Show: Laughter, Law, and Life Lessons

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The weather's really soporific today. Let's just talk about weather for the whole three hours. I mean much more. You speak about my

shed that I'm doing. I want to talk.

I'm giddy. I'm giddy about shed talk. Come on. Let's go shedty.

Yes. Fantastic.

I hope I've got everything up today. I've been in the right old scramble getting going. Here we go. I've got that. Yes. I need to ask you about your,

your tablets I've gotten today.

Very nice too.

You know, what do you call it? Nicos, nicotine.

Oh, I know what I've forgotten to do. What's that? Take nicotine. Yeah.

No. Everything. I've I've actually got I'm really late with I knew my brain's not working well today.

I've forgotten to actually broadcast to YouTube and rumble.

Shit. It's okay. We'll be just a couple of minutes late.

Yeah.

I was thinking about talking about shock.

Seriously. Were you? The the nation is Hello, everyone.

Hey. We're live right now anyway on, WBN.

Yeah. Hello? How about that? Yeah. We are. Cool. We're not live anywhere else at the moment. We're not live on Rumble so I was keeping but anyway, look. So, this show goes out just a minute. Well, no. No. No. Just chill. It's fine. I think it's brilliant that the one hundredth show, I've had a feeling about all day was going to be a complete mess. Hi everybody out there on WBN.

But it's just been a bit of a it's been one of those days Eric, it really has. Don't worry. Everybody will be sat there moaning like mad.

Just a minute. And I'll tell you when we're connected to knickers in a twist. Is there any Yeah. It really has. Now hang on. Yeah. So I've just pressed the rumble button. Just hold your horses and I'll I'll have a little chipper on there.

It'll take about thirty seconds for Rumble to catch up. So

Rumble's not in yet. I can't see you.

I'll put somebody in chat.

Okay. Let's just mute you. I'm just gonna mute you guys anyway, okay, for a second. Alright? Because we'll be there through and everything.

Hello.

Good evening. Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, we'll be there through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Hello? Bounds back coming at me. Good evening. Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, we'll be there through in the middle of the night. I'll just Hello?

Fans back coming that way. Good evening. Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, we'll be there through in the middle of the night. I know.

Oh, I'm in a good mood today. Hi, welcome to Paul English live. I know it doesn't seem like it. I actually don't even feel alive but welcome. It is,

08/14/2025.

I wish it wasn't. This is show number 100 and that must be nearly the one hundredth cock up for starting the show. How about that? But I'm pretty sure all the signs are now there that I'm alive.

Welcome to the show. Let's do that music thing and then I can get my brains put back into my bottom.

It's too warm for me today. My brain's gonna like Jell O. Not that I know what Jell

O

is,

I'm

British.

Hi, everyone.

Have I got everything ready? I think I might have.

Oh wow that's the best that's the best useless star ever.

I think, I think that's really good actually. 100 shows in and I was saying I was being all cocky last week saying how everything had gone great. I haven't had a complete cock up like that for ages.

My brain's been frazzled all day. I don't know why. I don't know whether I actually woke up it in my head. Too many late nights of course burning midnight oil, yacking with people like Eric and others. But anyway I hope you've had a cracking week.

Here we are

show 100 and it means nothing. It's actually meaningless. It's just a number on a sheet on a sheet of paper or on a page but maybe it means a couple of things. We're nearly two years into this lark.

And maybe,

what with all the draconian laws of freedom that are being imposed on us, in other words, the removal of all our freedoms, maybe it's a really appropriate number to have. Anyway, wherever you are, wherever you're listening,

I'm not gonna apologize too much for the beginning, but that was a lot of fun. If you'd seen me just now over the last two or three minutes, you should have had a right laugh. It's probably better than the rest of the show put together. But we're running on Rumble. We're running on YouTube.

We're going out over WBN three two four. Hi, all you people on WBN. We're going out now over Radio Soapbox because that was cocked up too. Every single thing that could have gone wrong then went wrong, which means that from now on, it's all going to go right. And we'll start off by introducing

Eric. Good evening to you, Eric. How are you? Good evening, Paul. And I think you should have started off with happy days are here again. And No. No. No. You're not supposed to and over and over again. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No. No. It's all it's all coming up. It's all coming up. We're gonna we're gonna be hap hap hap hap happy days today. Okay. Yeah. No. I'm gonna play it. Well, I didn't know whether I ought to steal it from you, so I don't know if any of you know. Yeah. I don't mind. Eric Eric has a show, Fulcrum Hall runs on Mondays and Sundays,

and there was a bit of a there was a bit of a a moment the other day where a song that was being played called Happy Days Are Here Again

played again

and again

and again and again. I think about five times. By the end of it, everybody's quite miserable really, I think.

But it brainwashed them, didn't it? You'll very be happy. And, we should have had Fockham's,

propaganda

minister or Nathan. He is our prop he would have said, you know, you will listen to it, but happy days are here again and be happy.

Yeah.

Yeah. You will. Absolutely. Yes. So,

yeah. By the way, I put the only title I put for this show, by the way, it was just open house.

I'm gonna tell you the way I feel halfway through the show, I think I am gonna open a bottle of wine. I think we'll do the first I'll try and do my first drunken show. I don't get drunk really. It's sad, isn't it? It would actually make it rather more amusing if I did but,

welcome to the open house of show 100 for whatever it's worth. There'll never be another show like this.

Thank

crikey. Thankfully,

because

because it's, it's cut off in a silly way.

Never mind. Anyway, if you're on Rumble Never mind.

Yeah. I'm just having a look. Is is we're all running on Rumble, isn't it? There not too many,

oh, yeah. I see a couple of chats. So Let's have a look. Yes. Yes. They're all all in. And Mark Anthony. Hello, Mark. He's, like, usually in my chat as well. You know? So Mhmm. Mark Anthony, 72. Very good man. Yes. And, Woody Peak, hello.

And if we got any other one, we've got,

Brazil Blitz. That's a good name, ain't it? Brazil Blitz, Gary Davis,

and, Brazil Brits. Really?

Yeah. Well, shout out over in YouTube. Shout out to Peter Croft and Louise Ford and John Hales and Gary Davis and oh, yeah. As you said, Brett Sue Spargo. Britsall Blitz and Sue Sparkle.

Yes. Sue Spargo. Can anybody guess who Peter Croft is?

No.

Me? I can't. Who's Peter Croft?

Because I got several accounts, you said. One of them is Peter Croft. So there we go. You won't you won't be very good as a spy, Eric, would you? Really? Come on. Oh, sorry. I am a spy. No. Yeah. But I work for them. I work for the,

raw mint. I'm a mint spy. Do you?

Yeah. See? Oh. Sorry.

Sorry. It's a terrible one. This is just that jotastical

ready for everybody. We're just

that jotastic already, we're already. We're not even Fantastic. Fix it. Yes.

You know, Sue Sparkle. Hi, Sue. By the way, obviously, we've never met or spoken. But

every time I've seen your name come up, it's reminding me of something and it just clicked what it was.

You ever seen,

I can't remember the name of the film now. Good grief. Strictly Ballroom. I did remember it. Have you ever seen that film Strictly Ballroom? I've heard of it. I'm not sure I've seen it because I used to have a girlfriend that liked all the dance films and I slept through all of them. So you're not much of a dancer then, Eric. Is that what you're saying? No.

I'm a complete I I have a very long family tradition of non dancers.

My father would never dance with my mother.

And I had my feet are firmly cat. Nailed to the floor. I do not dance. I'm a complete yes. I am a non dancer.

And,

I actually went to dancing classes with a girlfriend I had, and we was dancing around. I said, Scooby, what's this song? She's this have you ever heard a record called Get Off My Bloody Toe?

Strange, ain't it? Because I said, Scooby, what's this song? She'd get off my bloody toe. I mean, I'd have heard of that record, have you? So there we are. No. No. Yes. Well, I've never done that. I've never done that to a delicate lady or a delicate lady's small feet. There's nothing worse, actually, if you are a bloke and you stand

on someone's foot, particularly if it's a small foot attached to a pretty lady. Yes.

It's all over. It's finished, really. It's done. Yeah. Yeah. It's all over.

Not that I suppose not that people get together. Anyway, what was my anecdote? I was gonna say, oh, yeah. So

Sue Sparkle. Right. So there's this film called Strictly Ballroom.

It's kind of is it semi camp? I don't know. I don't think it is really. Yeah. It's it's about it's about ballroom dancing in Australia,

mate.

And it's just got I thought it was one of my it was a film I went to see

when I was courting, you see.

Yeah. And it went down really well.

It was great. I don't think I picked it or anything like that, but one of the it's set in the world, the highly competitive world of Australian

ballroom dancing, you know, where they all get flopped up to buggery and they're all covered in alright.

And it's about this guy who's a little bit not satisfied with it and he's got this terrible relationship with his parent. Well, he's actually very fractious.

His father has become

really a hermit in the family. He's he's very subdued and,

and he knows nothing about the history of his mother and father as being

champion dancers in in the ballroom world from years ago, but something bad happened to his dad and all sorts of stuff like this. But anyway, to cut to the short of it,

there is a a beautiful dancer, Sue, in there called Tina Sparkles.

That's what it reminded me of. I just Yeah. So there you go. Tina Sparkles. It's very it's a great film, actually. It's very

it is a great film. It's just full of it's very Aussie

and it's also got actually now I don't like dancing too much either really but it's got my favorite dance scene in any film ever.

Ever. Right?

And I think you'd like it too Eric and I'll tell you why. I've got to get set you a bit of context right. He's

he's supposed to dance with all these

fancy gals in the dance studio is this lad. I can't remember his name.

And,

he's kind

of there's a girl called Fran who at the beginning of the

film is a bit plain Jane and dowdy dressed and all this kind of stuff, you know, so and she's doing the sort of two steps and the foxtrot, all this kind of tame stuff in the dance studio,

but he ends up getting to know her and

because he wants to dance his own steps. That's it. It's all about can you dance your own step. I sound like an expert on this stuff. I've never been dancing in my life, everybody.

There's still time yet, isn't there? Anyway Yes. He, they go off. They trot off one day and they come back to where she lives.

And, she lives with her uncle.

And there's all these and she's of Spanish descent. So it's all this Spanish family around the back having a barbie and everything. There's the Spanish mum there and it's quite a

groovy atmosphere. You'd kind of like all this kind of stuff, and they're burning a fire in a sort of oil barrel. It's called a bit roughty toughty on the rough side of town.

And they come back,

and,

he's furious that he's brought that she's come home late.

And he said, there's nothing to pick on her. And he starts pushing him around, this young lad, you know. He said, what do you do? He said, I dance. Uh-huh. He says, you dance. He says, what do you dance? He said, all sorts of things. He said, what? He said,

paso doble. You heard of that dance? Paso doble dance? Yeah. At least you've heard of it. Yeah. I've heard of paso doble. Yeah. So it's it's fantastic. You've got what this scene is just brilliant. This guy, the the Spanish guy, short, full of fire. It's really good. It looks at him and goes, Paso Doble? You showed me your Paso Doble. Right? So he starts doing it with Fran.

This Spanish guy just starts laughing

and he calls all his mates out. They all come out. They're just laughing their socks off at him and and this young lad's getting furious about this. What's wrong with this? What's wrong with this? He said, Pastor Doble, come with me. So they he takes him around the back

and,

the mama, as it were, the spat the elderly Spanish lady who's been in the wash she's a big gal.

Big, right? Rather large. Yeah. Lovely, but large.

And this guy is in this sort of toria

stuff, jet black, really

fiery black hair, short, full of fire as a sort of human being.

And he dances

he does this dance with this woman and it's fantastic.

It's absolutely brilliant. Have you heard of that? It's absolutely brilliant. She's a professional dancer, isn't she apparently?

Well, she might be but it's just to do with the energy and the whole of this ritual of that particular You'll have seen it. It's the one where

the woman is stood all still on one side of the dance floor and the guy is basically a bull,

right? He moves around all over the place like a bull and he all this kind of stuff and it's absolutely a Spanish thing and it's nothing to do with me. I'm not Spanish. I have no tapping into that culture. But I look at it and I go if if I could ever be taught to dance anything, it would be that because you also get to wear

the most fantastic boots. And when they're stamping on the ground, it's the most it's very manly. Oh, yes. You get all the smoke. Very passionate. Wonderful. Because my dad had a theory about dancing.

So this is my dad's theory. So don't please don't get upset. I mean, I mean, he's sort of acting as a messenger. And he said, there's need two types of people that dance, women and puffs.

And when I went dancing classes, I straight up the dancing classes. He told me to one side. He says, is there something you haven't told me, son? You know what I mean? Are you perfectly alright?

And, actually, the girl I was with said that dancing with me was a bit like dancing with a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox.

She'd seen one shit and she'd seen me hit panzer tank. Yeah.

Should

you go forward? Did you go back? Back when you should go forward. I'm not bloody

Bloody clue. I kept bumping into people.

Yes. But,

but I think my dad's theory is a little bit out of date nowadays, isn't it?

Yeah. Well, maybe. I think if you saw that,

generally, I would agree with him. Yeah. Although it's different really. They used to have

sorry, I mean we normally talk about usury. We'll get around to that, don't worry. But we can't talk about it for three hours straight, but we probably could. But you'll all get driven bug batty about it. I've got a few things to bring up about it actually. Got some nice old stuff from 1311

that I wanted to bring into the show. Just to bring you some recent news, this just in from seven hundred years ago. No. But Dig some poor son up, did you? It's it's it's you have revived him.

Digged him up, Found all his bloody usury receipts under his armpits. I went, oh, it's you. Yeah. No. It was,

but,

what were we talking about? I've got completely lost. Let's talk about dancing. Oh, dancing. Yeah. We had all we used to have come dancing, didn't we, on telly? Do you remember?

Yes. I I I've actually been I've actually suffered that. Yes. I've suffered from that. I've done quite a few years.

As a kid going, what are they doing? It's just,

I think my dad used to go all the time. He said, look at that. I've all done up like,

Black puffs.

I'm looking at my I've never seen such puffery in all my life.

Of course, my mom loved it because the ladies

and this is true. And I guess, in fact, the ladies were all

wearing it's one of those lights. Listen. It's a pub night tonight. It's an open house. We're just having a drink and having a chat here tonight. Really, it's loose as a goose tonight. Very loose.

We're in the Queen's Lakes popping. Wait. I thought it was Yeah. Yeah. We've been on a pub crawl. We're starting off with the Queen's Lakes cause it's always they're always open.

And that's,

that's that's what you can always get you can always get a pint down there. My mom loved it, by the way, all that stuff because all the ladies look beautiful, don't they?

They're all wearing their dresses and everything. I do I'll be the only dancing I watched was,

Riverdance.

And I like to see nice ladies with the short skirts, but I was put off a bit when my or flashulence came prancing along on the stage, you know. And that that I lost interest at that point, you know. So I was alright until old flatulence came on and then no. I thought, no. I better not. So I just lost interest, you know.

It's it's really for men. It's probably

of even for young boys who wanna kick footballs around and climb up trees, it's probably one of the most

uncomfortable things of all when you're that age,

you know, wanting to dance, whereas the women naturally want to dance, don't they? I think. Yes. I mean, I'm not trying to separate.

Maybe I've I've assumed too much. But I generally, that was my experience when I grew up that you couldn't they always were damn dying to just jump on the dance floor because they all ended up liking that, what was it, that dreaded disco music in the nineteen seventies? Bloody hell.

But I've only seen my dad dance once

with my mom once. Uh-huh. And it's a very painful looking experience because he was already a very happy go lucky bloke, you know, cracking a few jokes and that. But he looked so

bored out of his skull.

Oh, you're poor. He's a very he's a very shy man

and self conscious. And he and it was sort of it was a bit like a a scene from Thunderbirds, you know, if you had two Thunderbird dubbies dancing, that's what it's a bit it's a bit like. Because my uncles had a dance with my mom. My dad refused to dance.

Right.

My

I

my dad wasn't too bad. I don't think my dad was too bad. I think he

he was alright with it.

I remember seeing all these photographs

of you see, I think, obviously, your your dad probably didn't therefore, I'm assume

I'm assuming, bump into your mum in a dance hall, did he? No. He didn't. No. He didn't. He's very romantic.

By the way, his father was a non dancer as well. He believed all the problems

of this country came from the dance floor hall. So he was a non dancer. For all of them? Yes. Yeah. All of them. He writes all the problems of this country come from the dance floor,

dance halls.

So it was me Okay. It was me granddad that believed that and me dad believed it was any women in poofs that danced.

So So it's not.

Really,

this is a new one on me. It it it's not you're saying it's not the Fabian Society. It's not the Masons.

It's the dance hall managers that are really responsible for much of the plight that we're suffering. That's right.

That's my grandfather's

thoughts. He said, since they since they had was it dance halls, that's where the troubles of the country started. Dance. All this dancing.

Yeah. Got it.

Well, I don't know I don't know when dance hall started up, but I know I had a I don't think I've still got it. There's a photograph,

that used to be in the sort of family heirloom and all that kind of stuff kicking around.

My mum and my dad at a dance at the Astoria Ballrooms in Leeds

in 1948

or '49 when they first met. They got married about 5152

something like that about three years later

and, they're all there. I might have mentioned this before. This is exciting stuff isn't everybody? You've all tuned into this. Let's hear about Yorkshire dance halls in the late forties. But everybody there, and we mentioned this before, all the guys,

immaculately

dressed in suits, the best suits I guess they could afford with the money they had, but they look pretty good to me. They look pretty good. And the women are all in proper dresses and everybody's drinking tea. There's no booze. Oh, how nice. No not a drop.

Yes.

Not a drop of booze. He said oh no. We start I think it was afternoon

There were afternoon dances. They'd go down on a Saturday afternoon like 04:00 or something or 05:00 and have tea and all that kind of stuff and

and just get get with it, you know. So it was,

it looked good. I suppose, Eric, when you think about it, because the dancing back then actually required

conscious thought to start off with with all the proper steps,

you don't want too much booze. Otherwise, you'd be absolutely,

well, literally legless on the dance floor. And of course but when it's disco, it doesn't matter whether you're drunk. Maybe that's why they invented disco so that the blokes could just get really, really drunk and just bounce around all over the place, you know? Yes. Maybe it's that.

I I I don't understand disco, but the way my grandfather met his future wife,

he was a green grocer and he threw a rotten tomato at someone,

and it missed and hit his future wife straight in the face. Bosh.

And she went over and, apologized and mocked her down, and they fell in love. Ain't that no way?

Well, it is really. I know as blokes, we're not supposed to talk like that, but I think

you you want everybody.

Look at me. It's the hundredth show. I'm going all sentimental.

But you do, don't you? I mean, I don't go around saying, by the way, I think you should all fall in love. By up, everybody does at least once or twice in their life. It's usually twice.

But it was usually in your teenage years when it's the most important thing ever in the whole world. Right? That's right. And it all falls apart and you're devastated and you don't even know what's going on. I had one of those moments when I was about 19.

It took me about three weeks to understand that it was no big deal but at the time it was.

It seemed to be the biggest deal ever in my life. And anybody out there had that experience?

I'm assuming you have. Oh, yes. Yes. I had that experience. But imagine, if that tomato hadn't hit my grandmother,

I probably wouldn't be here.

So it's thanks to that rotten tomato

that missed and hit my grandmother because he might not have got into conversation with her. And,

the way and the way my dad met my mom was very romantic.

He was in the war, and his best friend

dropped a picture on the floor. And my dad picked the picture up, and he's he suffered from shyness. My dad was a very shy man. And he's always says, is this your film? Feel like you. Yeah. Feel like you take after your daddy. You're a bit shy, aren't you? Yeah.

And he said, your favorite film star? He said, no. It's my sister.

And he said, oh, she's attractive.

Well,

certain events came along, came along, came along, and and what happened is when they came back to England in preparation for d day

Mhmm. It just so happened

that they had to go and pick someone up up in Colchester,

and they went past

my well, it wasn't my uncle then because I wasn't born. My uncle's house,

and,

he

and they dropped something off, and then

my dad met my future mom.

And then they blossomed, and that's it.

But my mom was frightened because my dad was going over on d day, and she thought she'd never see him again when she waved him off at the train. And she thought that's the last I'm ever gonna see him because he's he's the first he's gonna be in the first wave in, and they won't survive. But he did.

And then along came came I a long time after the war, you see? So there we go. So that's a little bit of romance for the beginning of the show. And also I like that. Yeah. We can talk about these things. It's funny you say that about seeing photographs.

I got this sent the other day. Did it actually, somebody sent this into the Telegram group. Gotta read it out. Right? It's a photograph of a lady, black and white photograph. Looks as it's the turn of the century, early nineteen hundreds. Okay? She looks quite attractive. I mean, it's difficult to tell because it's black and white but she's slim, trim, bit of a serious face.

And the caption says, before dating apps, women used newspaper ads to find distinguished noble men. Let me read you the caption. So it's a nice picture.

Mhmm. So if I knew how to actually blast these things out over YouTube, I'd still cock it up. So you'll just have to bear with me. Anyway, it's a radio show there so you use your imagination.

So the photographer went in the newspaper. Here's the caption beneath. I love this.

Only daughter

of a wealthy coffee planter

will marry English nobleman or distinguished American

if he is handsome and reasonably young.

No French, Italians, Spaniards, or Hebrews need apply. Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night.

How appropriate is that for what we've been talking about? That's the bird for me, Eric. Yeah. So what's lovely? Yeah. Yeah. So I've got to reply to that one. Yes. That's lovely. Yes. Nice. We're a bit late. We probably

we probably missed the RSVP

deadline on that one. Yes. But it's cool, isn't it? Yeah. I quite like that.

Yes. Yeah. So there you go. That's how we do. We have big massive photographs in newspapers, all very formal. I just love the directness of the request.

Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night. She looks as though she could. She's quite trim

all night.

That's it. And,

what about, I like the lonely hearts column, you know, like, what is it? Lonely widower.

First wife died

due to eating,

poisoned mushrooms.

Second wife died due to eating poison mushrooms.

Third wife died because she would refuse to eat the poison mushrooms.

Sorry.

This is good. As you can see, we're dancing around all these topics tonight, ladies and gentlemen. Well, we have a request. We got a request from

smashing the likes.

Yes. He says, Paul, Eric, can you tell where I can find an audio copy

of the Hellstorm book

or anyone else in the chat? Thank you in advance.

Yes. I know we can get a hard copy.

Right. Okay. Far away. Well, the audiobook,

you can get from

moneytreepublishing.com.

That's it.

Okay. I was gonna say that. Moneytreepublishing.com.

I actually know the guy that did that. Oh, it's me.

So there you go. Yeah. Moneymoneytreepublishing.com.

You'll get it.

Fourteen hours of hell

of the most awful book ever written or simply one of them. Yeah. Yes. I used to say that to Tom all the time when he was still alive. He passed away around about this no. Not this time. Nearly nearly a year ago, he passed away towards the back end of 02/2024.

It was. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. But I think I mentioned at the time when he passed out when we were speaking, I said, Tom, you've written the worst book in the world. It's the most awful book, you know, but it is. It's certainly amongst the most awful books.

Yes, I hope that helps.

That that's a full Thank you smashing the likes. Yeah. Great. Glad to be of help. That's cool. Anybody wants any requests, shout out in the chat or anything like that. And again, I'm gonna say if you want to call in tonight,

you can call in. Okay? So,

where do you go? Paul, I don't think I've got it actually up on the, I'll stick it up on the on the,

Rumble and YouTube feeds mum and terror. Yeah. Or at least after the first hour because we'll just have a yak.

Anyway, moving on to something a little bit more serious here. Mhmm.

Earlier in the week, Mark Anthony, who might be even here tonight in He is? I think he is. Hi there. Hi Mark. Hello Mark. Cool.

Sent this really got my goat this.

There's some things that there's certain people.

Anyway, this is one of them.

Put a post in called the concept of English ethnicity is not evil

and this, of course, I agree with that. This on a site called ukreloaded.com,

and the interesting thing about it is that it was a comment

from a guy called John McTernan.

Are you familiar with this

person at all? Eric, have you ever heard of him? Never heard of him. Okay. Okay. Well, let me just I'll just read you one of the things off his Twitter feed.

John,

if you go look him up on Wikipedia

you'll get very cross. So basically he worked for Tony Blair,

right?

He's a complete

ly unacceptable human being to me just as like I probably am to him.

On one of his tweets recently said, proud to be called a Marxist

goon.

How about that? Oh, that's nice. Proud. Jolly what a jolly nice chap, I don't think. Yeah. Yeah. He is. Now I want to play you a little clip. I've just let me just play you this clip. I don't know if I've ever played it before but I'm gonna play it now.

It's very brief.

Hopefully, this will come through. And we might get a few wretched adverts because I've just gone straight to YouTube. Let's have a look here. So you're looking to grow your business. Yep. You don't have time Shh. I'll just wait until the adverts run out. I'm just waiting for this clip to come up. It's only about forty eight seconds long.

Did you hear that? Okay. Here we go. I had a I had a different miner.

So this is John McTernan

on GB News a couple of months ago when the farmers thing was going on. Listen to this if you can. We can do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners.

So just to be clear, Johnny, you would, what, beat them up?

No. Because I mean, clearly, there's an industry we can do without.

So okay. Alright. So this got weird. So you would do to do to farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to minors, which was, and, you know, she was very heavy handed police tactics

followed by what? Pussing them out of business.

If people if people if if people are so upset that they wanna go on the streets and spray slurry on them, then,

we don't

need, the small farmers.

Right. Okay, John. I'm not sure I'll ask a specific if you were just to clarify, you were a former labor special adviser, possibly emphasis on the word former there. But

Can you believe it? It's frightening.

It's frightening. It is. If he had a brain, it'd be very dangerous.

You know, you know.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh, look at that. There's a there's a cross voice from America.

It's very difficult for me to,

feel anything other than hostility towards a man who expresses sentiments like that. He's absolutely when you see him in the clip, he's a smug, smarmy,

emotionally dead hunk of flesh. An absolute, I'm sorry. I I don't know what to say now because we've got new freedom laws. So probably even if I just think I think I get locked up.

We can have Oh. To look at this. I can help you there.

But he'd written a thing saying that English ethnicity.

Well, he said just to go back to the original point. Just hold on there, Paul. He said in this article that English ethnicity is evil.

That's what he said.

Has he ever heard of the word tree? Has he ever heard of the word treason?

Because that's what he's committing. Because he's actually metaphorically urinating on the graves of our ancestors by saying that. So that's treason Yeah. As far as I'm concerned. And everybody that fought and died

for the country. Precise.

Yep. Precisely. Yes. Yeah. No. I can I can help you with that? He's just absolutely like it's like the Islington set or something. Yeah. Paul, please. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Paul from America.

Welcome to the show, Paul.

Thank you.

Glad to be here. Now I can help you with that because anything that you might might think to think to or want to say, I mean, I can say it because

this this part of the program is not in not intended

to be

a attitude or a position accepted by any of the other guests or networks or whatever. I am a national of The United States.

My rights and freedoms, my person rights and property

are protected by treaty and international law, and I will say whatever I want to say because I can say it irrespective

of whatever,

statutes, acts, codes, or,

administrative

policy that might be in effect.

What I say should be no reflection on Eric von Essex or Paul English or anybody else on this program or on this or any other network, WBM three two four, Global Voice Radio, eurofolkradio.com,

Radio Soapbox. It doesn't matter. It's all on me. Come and get me. My rights person and property are protected

by treaty and international

law. So whatever I wanna say, I will say, and that guy is an absolute idiot. He's a fool, and,

he should not be given a platform of any kind.

Not even

not even writing his dribble on paper airplanes and sailing him off of street corners. I mean,

the guy's ridiculous.

He's an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, I don't normally react

full on. I think it really woke me up. You know what I mean? You sort of go on, well, we'll just accommodate everything. But there's something about

his delivery,

the smug look on his face, the fact that he's proud to be a Marxist, which is basically saying, I'm glad I'm mentally ill

because that's which is a mental illness.

It is. Right? So okay fine well at least someone's pleased about it.

And they use it they use the word ethnicity. I'm not into the word ethnicity. It's simply race. Okay? So for me or tribe.

All these there's so many different words to describe basically anything that a child knows that can see with his own eyes or her own eyes. Anyway, I had to write a few comments about it, of course.

So underneath it, it says what on that video, the original title was we can do to the farmers

what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. So I've rewritten it and I think it should read this, we can do to MacTernan what the English peasants did to Cromwell. What do you think, Eric?

Excellent.

First class. Yes? Excellent. Yes. It's just it's called reverso headlining and everybody should get into the habit of it. When you see these headlines,

just switch the nouns or do what you need to do. You'll come up with the reverse o meaning and it'll be right in line with where you're thinking your heart is every single time. The idea that a man could come out and verbally attack farmers

he might as well say, we're gonna starve you all to death. I mean, that's literally what he's saying.

I agree, isn't it? Yes. That's right. Yeah. We need to get the bowler hat farmer on here because he's been on my show a couple of times,

and he's How fit is he? Front end. He's he's a farmer. He'd be quite fit. Can we have a fight between him and John McTernan?

Oh. Seriously? Just have a fight. Get a farmer in. Yeah. Get in there, McTernan. Let's see what you're made of, you pansy.

And he just needs blatting. I just I mean, it's just it's complete it's the worst. And a couple more things I wanted to say right because I wrote a couple of things.

So I said as well just in the little thread

the word

Bachfeiffengesicht

springs to mind. Do you remember that word? It came up several months ago. Yeah? It wasn't as German, isn't it? It means It's German. I'm gonna copy and paste it, by the way, to all you all you lucky chaps and chapesses.

I think I need

Yeah. It means go on. You think it means desperately in need of a fist in the face?

That's it. It's a face in need of a fist.

Isn't that great? Isn't

that a lovely face?

A face that needs a fist. Yeah. It's just absolutely brilliant. German, of course, proper words. Yeah. We don't we don't use any of those Latin things. We're using proper words here. Well, was it now? So It was a a a was it a oh,

you you said it once. I can't I can't remember it. What was it now? You want to say it again? Oh, yes, please.

I'm got well, I'm pasting it in so you can all practice your pronunciation, everybody. Yeah. I've sent it I've sent it to the grumblers in Rumble.

Not that they are. I've got a blast there. Fantastic. And I'm sending it over to YouTube. So look that one up. It's Beck Fiefengesicht.

Yes. And that came from mister I've checked it with mister Anderson who's gonna be on next week, actually. So Thomas Anderson,

he's not been on for quite a while, but I spoke to him,

the other day. So Thomas is an author,

written an awful lot of books, and we'll be finding out about his English is immaculate. He's the guy that came on and talked about the bell, the Nazi bell. Do you remember? About a year back? Yes. Something like that. Yes. Yes. The naughty Nazis. Yes. Yes. So he'll be the guest next week, but there we go. I just want you to know that. And then also, I want to give you another quote because this sprang to mind as I was thinking about this.

Cornillo

Zilia Codriano,

you might not know him. Okay? And,

he's obviously frowned upon by the people that would frown upon this.

Codriano said this, If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor,

I would let the traitor have it.

Yes. I'm just saying, I didn't say that but Cornelius Codriano

said it.

How about this as well because I'm really one of a go at this guy. This guy really

I found out you can find out on his Wikipedia entry so I'm only reading stuff that's online. He also well she's on his bets.

In November

2016,

McTernan bet blogger Stuart Campbell $100

on a Clinton victory in the two thousand and sixteen US presidential election,

which he lost.

Campbell has said that McTernan

failed to honor the bet, and Campbell has taken court action against him.

Good. I fail. Yes. I put thick as s h one t doesn't even come close with regards to this guy. He's an he's a complete and utter buffoon, but then he was appointed by Blair.

And,

I don't know what you're supposed to do with these people. I'm I mean, genuinely, I can't they need to be mentally sectioned. You you you you've got to really get them under the mental health act I I dangerous people well what about that I tell the funniest what I heard and this was on Facebook look if only I could find his name people in chat might know him but when

Paul pot came to power which was in the nineteen seventies

he is a he was a Scottish

multi What was?

No. Skollpark wasn't. No. Was Scottish. I

hate to do.

I hate to do. I hate to cut the backbones up his kilt.

I said that a bit wrong, actually. No. There was a Scottish, a Marxist,

that was so pleased that Pol Pot came to power

that he

flew over

to Cambodia

to thank him, you know, to shake his hand. And when he got off the plane, instead of getting a red you know, to shake his hand. And when he got off the plane, instead of getting a red carpet, they put him in jail because they thought he was a spy, and then they hung him.

It's just,

what are you supposed to do with people?

That's about the one good thing that Pol Pot did, darling.

He was a nasty piece of work. He really was a horrible creature.

Yeah. Absolutely repellent.

But, you know, they're cut from the same ideological

cloth.

There's something basically unstable,

about them. Really, it's just

it's very, very dreadful.

What gets me, I strongly believe these these people have got a hypnotic power.

I mean, how did Mao manage to kill almost a billion people, not personally,

but get people

they they are such manipulators.

It's like you could never ever out outmaneuver

a psychopath. You never beat a psychopath. Get out of the way of them because they're so brilliant at what they do.

And you look at the way they are. Yeah. You you you'll never be just just make sure you get the as far away from me as you possibly can, you know.

It's You heard of a guy have you heard of a guy called Edgar Cayce?

Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. He was

the bloke who predicted things in his dreams.

It's

an amazing life. Yeah. An amazing life. And He's my hero. I haven't I've got one book by him,

but he spoke at one of the meetings. These papers came out after his death, I think. I can't remember when he died. Was it late thirties or early forties or something like that? '19

No. It's in the nineteen forties, late forties, I think. Yeah. '45.

He was talking basically about what we would say is the psychopathic personality and he said that that there are

human

looking humans down here

that really haven't got a soul.

That's right.

And I suspect that that's true.

I think it is true.

Just look at Keir Starmer.

My my my appreciation is off with one, but it's been completely anesthetized out of him. Something's happened dreadful for him. The reason If I take a more sympathetic view, you could just go, that's tragic. But the problem is he's in charge of supposedly in charge of the country, and therefore, it's it's not just tragic. It's, it's

very, very dangerous.

Very.

Yeah. But it's The reason that psychopaths are so hard to beat is because

they are willing to take actions that the people are unwilling to take to to defend their own lives. The psychopaths are willing to take actions to kill the people,

and the people won't

go to that extreme just to defend themselves.

They just won't do it. Yep.

So they're slaughtered like sheep.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's fun fun fun.

But actually, I've got a little I've just I didn't think I had any clips, and now I'm just banging around and finding them.

You remember Margaret Thatcher?

Vaguely. I can't I can't forget it, yes. Can't remember.

This is only fifteen seconds, but I'm gonna it's now because I never know quite where we're gonna go. Some of these clips sort of fit in. This one fits in right now. This is just fifteen seconds. This is what she had to say, I guess, in the eighties, nineteen eighties.

The single biggest intellectual error during my political lifetime

has been to confuse freedom

with equality.

In fact, equality,

being an unnatural

condition which can only be enforced by the state,

is usually the enemy of liberty.

Yeah.

There you go. Yeah. I see.

There is it can only be enforced by the state. I'm always banging on about this word equality. There's no such thing except through force

and then it's not equality, is it? Because someone's an enforcer

and someone's the enforcer

or whatever your status is and the guy being beat up.

It's a complete joke and that's what Marxists are all about.

Well, look Pursuit of equality is literally death to everybody else. It's just that's what it means. Look at Martin Luther King. He was a he was a brilliant actor. Yeah. That's the only thing. He was a very clever actor, but the speech that he gave wasn't written by him. He liked brothels too, you know? He loved brothels. I didn't know I didn't know he liked drinking broth. That's interesting. He did. He loved it. He loved it. Love all kinds of brothels.

Love all kinds of broth, please. He got kicked out of the Queen's legs, though.

But,

yes, there's a nice picture of him, with his handlers next to him. I won't say any more than that.

Very famous picture of him with

yes but

he was

he's just an actor that's all and he just read that just read the words very clever actor of that

Do you know how to say it? Scathing about all these amazing people in history. Aren't we aren't we awful about them? There are no When we die down more respect.

We're terrible about them. We really There are no amazing people in history. There are evil,

wicked, despicable people that have been presented to us as deities,

so we can,

carve out an entire month for them.

Just

just give them their special day and give them their all at Columbus. Christopher Columbus? Oh, he was just a prince.

You know? Just ask a Native American

who Christopher Columbus was. I don't think they're gonna say, we worship him on his own day.

No.

No. No. They're not gonna say

that. But there's there's lots of them like that, isn't there? I mean, you you think everybody has held I mean, look at the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama Oh. People got oh, marvelous. Right? The real one can't stand him. Pickleball. I believe he's, I believe he's on the payroll of the CIA, allegedly, I believe. Yep. Is there any possibility of

I've got I've

got an anecdote about the Dalai Lama. It's not I mean, it's actually

it's silly. I an old friend of mine,

who's also passed away about

nine years ago,

in Peru. So the location was exotic, but the manner of his passing was not quite so good. However, wonderful guy, really close friend of mine. Well, you don't know these guys. We've all it happens all the time.

He,

before he left England because he was to go over there wait. Wait. He lived in England all his life. But I remember him telling me, you know,

we have a thing over here. If you're in America, you might know of it. Maybe you have something similar called the pub quiz.

They have one, don't they? Every week at the Queen's Lakes, don't they? I think That's right. Open the twacom?

Yes. That's it. That's when they're open. Yeah. Yeah. The pub.

This joke about the Queen's Legs is gonna run and run, isn't it?

Yes. It is.

Lots more mileage to get out of that one.

We've only we've barely begun, everybody. You're wrapping your bath bag next week.

So, anyway,

yeah. He was in a pub quiz. Right? And the question he sat with these guys, and he he had a lot of good general knowledge knowledge. He he was quite good with all this stuff. His football questions and junk and TV stuff. But one came up and said, oh, question number 32.

Who is the spiritual head of Tibet?

So this guy next to him

writes down

dial a llama.

Dial a llama.

Hi. Is he there? I've just dialed it up. No. Dial a llama. Do you need one? I it's dial a llama. Dial a llama. K. I quite like that.

Yeah. Oh, good lord. Yes. What about that engine geyser?

Have you seen that engine geyser? It's an engine geyser called fake guru,

and he he's saying You mean sad guru? Like, when fake guru, but sad guru. Yeah. He's saying he's at the, economic World Economic Forum, and he wants to reduce the population. Oh, yes.

Oh, yes. How sad can he get? Do you think do you think they roped him into appeal to that

race of people, to that culture? I wonder if they did that or is it though over in the West they associate

guys with long beards coming from that part of the world with wisdom because I don't, by the way.

Any bloke that stands on one leg in a jungle for twenty five days doing this yoga stuff, what is the bloody point of that? He could have been getting on. We're doing something like getting some plumbing work done.

So He could have been fixing his shed up. Oh, by the way, Mark, he's just said, as your dad used to say no. It's actually my granddad, Mark,

used to say that,

that John MacTernan,

needs a bag of shit over his head.

I'm terribly sorry out there in Radio Land. This comes sometimes turns into a slightly vulgar show. Oh, terribly sorry. Terribly sorry. We are sorry, aren't we? Yes. We're terribly, terribly sorry about all this stuff.

It's like if if if I see an innuendo if I see an innuendo, I I just I just whip it out. I'd, you know, I'd heart through any innuendos.

So

Seeing seeing as you open the door, you know, granddad, he lived to be a 106

years old.

And,

he had when he was, like, 22 years old, he met this old farmer. And this old farmer told him, sprinkle a little bit of gunpowder on your eggs every morning, and you'll live to a ripe old age. Well, granddad, he did that

religiously every single day. He lived to be 106.

He had eight strong boys. He had 21

grandchildren.

He had eight great grandchildren

and four great great grandchildren.

He

also left about a 40 foot hole where

the crematorium

used to be.

That's a cracker, that one. Oh, that's a cracker, that one. Oh, that's a cracker. Yeah. That's a good one. By the way,

Woody Pete says, Sadhguru is a sick gobletist.

Oh, you you're praying in there.

And,

oh, by the way, my auntie says, apologies, mister English, for lowering the tone up. No. It's me that Oh, I don't think we've even started yet, Mark. I don't think we're gonna have to go quite away yet. It's It's early days yet, don't worry. I forgot we before the 09:00 watershed. I do apologize,

to the people who go, oh,

you're listening in.

But,

now the thing is is that, now my granddad got it right. He wants a bag of what's it over his over his head or in his face.

But how do these people get into such prominent positions? That's what I question. The main is an issue. I think they may have financial assistance from a slightly hidden quarter myself, Eric, but call me a conservative.

Yes. I yes. I tend to that view, really. I do tend to that view. Rather like Idi Amin's

son was talking about this week. I don't know if you saw that.

I did. Brilliant. Absolutely spot on.

Yeah. Idi Amin Really good. I'm beginning to re question because I was old enough to remember when he was in power,

and the propaganda

was thickened coming over a thick and a lot of people

have said there's a lot of rubbish that was said about him. I do not know.

I do not know. Well, where did we hear it all from? Where did we hear it all from? The BBC.

Yes.

Okay. So

I'm not saying he was a good guy. No. Didn't he eat his enemy? According to them, they used to put his enemies in the fridge and eat them, didn't he?

Well, that's why all good dictators doing it. I mean, that's Yeah. You're a bit peckish. You're you're you're victorious

in the battle and you're That's right. You know, your covers are a bit bare. Sorry. Sorry. I'm gonna have to wake you up.

Yeah. But but actually speaking of cannibalism

Yeah. Speaking of cannibalism, which I do all the time, it's a dreadful thought, isn't it? Yeah.

Actually, I'm getting a bit peckish as we're talking about this but,

do you remember that,

I caught this the other day. Sorry. This is called jumping around from one topic to another with no particular structure type show. Okay? So it's just the way it's gonna roll but my son said, hey, dad. Have you seen this? And I said, no. And he put it on. It was an interview with a survivor

from the Argentinian

rugby crash. Do you remember that?

Oh, yes. Yes. We're all outwit each other.

It's absolutely what an It's horrendous. It's absolute well, it's a him as a man, this guy that's about there were 45 of them crashed

and 17 came out alive. So there's about twenty five died. Something like that. Right?

And but his testimony, it's about forty minutes this interview,

is absolutely gripping

because he's very calm. He's a very distinguished and handsome looking guy now in his 60s. Really very striking. Sort of a very, like you would imagine a sort of mature statesman looking.

Wonderful guy. Absolutely wonderful. And he's just talking about how his life literally changed

and what happened in the crash

and how their thoughts turned to survival.

And the whole struggle for it.

Can't recommend it highly enough. And they didn't sit down and sort of cook them all up. That's not what they

did.

And he was just talking about hunger. He said you can go for a few days and be hungry. He said this isn't like that. This is that your entire body is absolutely craving food. It's almost, he said, it's one of the most terrible, terrible things.

You want to just eat anything.

Your body is just screaming out to get sustenance into it.

And, they they ate the pilot.

How about that? They ate the pilot. No. I'm fine. No more flying for him. But I think,

they were a bit cross because the pilot did make an error and that's why they ended up it was a it was pilot error. He he misread these coordinates and,

so he actually landed the plane in the wrong part, thought he was 45 miles further on and dropped the plane down into the,

the early part of the so they were only about 45 miles away from civilization but it's so cold up there

they might as well have been 45,000

to start off with. They called the search off after about ten days where there's

and some of the things that they had to get up to is it's amazing. Absolutely an amazing story,

and, it changed all their life. Now there's a picture at the end of the survivors. They're all still alive, about 17 of them today.

Quite an amazing tale. If you like the psychological That's right. I think the psychological effect that had done on them, though, I mean, how they could have got over that. I mean, it must be, you know, some form of shock,

although it depends on the individual

because this is the subject I was gonna go on to later on, that's shock.

Because I think most of the country is in shock

because something like that would put you into shock.

A

We had a similar situation.

We had a similar thing like that here.

It's there's a Donna. It's alright. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Alright. Well, it was it was a similar situation.

It was it was the Old West.

It was the Old West, and it was on the Oregon Trail,

and there was

a group of people that were traveling the Oregon Trail, and they went over what's called Donner Pass.

And Right. They,

they had,

problems,

and, they couldn't go any further,

and they ran out of food.

And what they would do is they actually, like, voted as to who would who they would eat next,

And they had turned I mean, some people had turned to cannibalism

to survive,

and it was it was, understood that the group would vote on who the weakest

and the least likely to survive the trip would be, and then

that would be who they would eat. It was called the Donner party.

Look it up. Google it. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible.

How do you spell Donner?

D o n n e r,

delta Oscar November November echo Romeo.

That's a bad joke, you know. I don't want to tell it. No.

Donner and Bliss. Gonna read out what Well, I could leave Donner No. Not Donner and Bliss, and it's made me thinking of Donner kebabs.

Yeah. I wonder if that's where he came from.

Yeah. That's awesome. Could be. Because he is out of the Royal Navy all the time.

Well, it did. That was the thing. Those guys shipwrecks and everything and out in a raft after a battle and everything floating around the Atlantic. I mean, bloody hell, what you're gonna it's just unbelievable

really so Yeah. There you go anyway. But are you gonna read out what Billy Silver said because that I'm going to say if you're the you you are the

you you read it out. So Billy Silver Goose comment of the year so far this So you just have to go back to that I stand about. I mentioned, of course, they crashed in the Andes.

Yeah. And the guy that the end of the beaten was the pilot and Billy Silver said

They ate the pilot. That's probably why they crashed.

It's so bad, but it's so funny. Oh, it's so funny. I'm trying to fly the bloody plane.

Hey, give me back.

Give me that arm back. I need that. I need that.

Stop putting salt and pepper on my arm, will you?

You know, I wouldn't be sneezing so much if you'd keep that damn pepper away from my face.

What are you doing,

spanking

are

we are we really we're really plunging the we're really getting into bad taste territory, are we? How can how can a show be so lighthearted

and so dark at the same time? I think Paul English's wife is the only one that can pull out. It's the English way, Paul. This is what we do over here.

It's called gallows humor. We're just absolutely laughing our socks off as we get shot to pieces. Well, that's really rather funny. His head came clean off.

All that kind of stuff. Oh, goodness. Yeah. So it's, it's just the way it is over here, mate. That's what that's what people are like. We're absolute scum, aren't we, Eric? I know I am. We sir certainly are. But Yeah. It it's quite honestly, though. I mean, that's what's got us through hardship, this Gallowshoe,

quite honestly.

Right. Yeah. Well

yeah. There's been a lot of gallows around, hasn't there? There's There's been a lot of gallows around. Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, look. Well, what about that gravestone

up north very quickly?

That's seriously, you can go and see it. Peter photographed it. Wherever you may be, let your wing go free because that's what killed me. That's actually on a gravestone up north. I think you see I think it's up

in left right Say that again. Say that again, Eric. On a gravestone,

it said Yeah. Wherever you may be,

let your wind go free as that's what killed me.

Wind is on a gravestone. Yes. Let your wind go free because that's what killed me.

Oh, boy.

That's the way you deal with it. That's the way you deal with it. Yeah fantastic stuff, that's brilliant.

Anyway look we're we've raced through the first hour down here at the Queen's Lakes

and,

so welcome again everybody to the show. I hope you're all warming up. You've got a glass of your favorite tipple. Mine's currently a pathetic sort of water and apple juice, but I I am

I am thinking about a glass of Chablis

or something like that.

Anyway, let's have a song, shall we? We do have a song and,

seen as other theme is happy happiness,

because we're always happy here,

I want to play you this song which is a very happy song by one of Eric's favorite singers. Yes.

Here it comes.

Here it comes. So we'll be with you after this little song

and sing along now everybody. It's all about happiness.

It's a half math happy day. It is.

For you and me, for us and we, all the clouds have rolled away.

It's a half half happy day.

The sunshine bright and the world all right. It's a half half

You can't go wrong if you sing a song. It's a half lap happy

day. Let's celebrate. Let's get that holiday

spirit.

We've got our heads on the run.

Let's shout it out so everybody

can hear it.

We found our place in the sun.

It's a half,

It's a high half happy day.

For you and me, but I'll send we all the clouds have rolled away.

It's a half half happy day.

The sunshine's bright and the world's alright. It's a half half happy day.

Four and twenty sun fiends are dancing round my face.

Four small and 20 more are dancing every place. It's a half

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So just in case you weren't clear, it really is a hap hap happy day, and,

I'm assuming, Eric, you feel a lot happier having heard I know. That song. Yeah.

You know, there's shows,

they were made during during the depression or when people were down to cheer people up. You mean the February,

you mean? Yeah. February.

But can you think of any records

today that really cheer you up? I can't think of any that cheer you up. There's none.

No at all. No.

And Well, there's room for the new record label called Cheerful Records. Yes. Everyone's happy.

We we should have that

because,

I got one on my mind.

Where was it? Where was it there? Marty Wilde made one about a place in Wales. What was it called now?

Oh,

Oh, oh,

sixties, late sixties,

and he thought it's such a weird name,

that he wrote a song about it.

When oh, someone in chat will find it. I can't

I'm sure it must be somewhere. Marty Wilde, 1968

you made you made a hit with it

And it's a real happy song we used to have lots of happy songs

But,

it's so sad. We don't I didn't now don't mention his name But I haven't mentioned who sung that song have I in the show so far? No. I don't know who. I don't know who he is. Don't say it because I can't say it because I don't know who he is. Oh, good. Good. Good. That's even better. So,

tonight's,

pub quiz. First question tonight's pub quiz.

Winner gets a Fulgham Hall pencil courtesy of the Phantom Postal Service from Fulgham Hall. You'll just have to Shit. Imagine that it turns up. Who was it that sung that song? Who was it? What was the name of the singer? The singer who was singing that song?

Peter Glaze.

And Was it Peter Glaze?

No. Cracker Jack? No. It wouldn't be him. No.

No. No. No. No. The show's gonna go awfully quiet if we have to sit here and go.

By the way, do you remember Peter Glaze from Tracker Jack? He was embarrassing. He was like like the

the drunk uncle that turns up at a wedding.

I think that's the reason why you don't forget him, really. He wore those he was short, wore those little round glasses

and was always eager around,

who was it? Crowther or something? David Crowther, was it? Yes. Oh, or was it Leslie Crowther? Leslie Crowther. Leslie Crowther. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And,

he was the most irritating person you could ever wish to think of. Something

about him.

You didn't like him then? You didn't like him? No.

I wouldn't eat him.

No. I think he was sort of lots of lots of energy

married up to insufficient talent really, which is always a little bit awkward when someone's full of confidence and very loud and all over the place and no one's really getting much entertainment value from it. A bit like this show at times really.

Hey.

Spot on, actually.

There you go. Just did a bit of self assessment and we worked it all out. So So

who is who is the singer then? Who is the phantom singer? I'm I'm Well, I'm waiting. I don't know. We'll give people I'll give a count. You've got twenty five seconds. No one's written in. Right.

So I'm gonna repeat the question. We just played it's a hap hap happy day. Someone's don't go to the search engines or pick up your AI out of your back pocket steady. Well, I'm just This is whether it's in your brain. I mean, this is all quite pointless in a way because you could you could find out anything. Who was it?

Alice Goljes has said the queen's legs will run on and on. Sorry. Yeah.

Well, while we're waiting for a response,

one more little tidbit.

Yeah. Yes. Cool. One one more little tidbit on the Donner Party. There was actually a movie in 2009

that was made on the Donner Party.

And Oh. How who would like to guess what the also known as title of that movie was?

Another trivia question.

Gobbler's Gulch?

I don't know.

Let's see if anybody in the rumble chat comes up with it. What was No. AKA of the movie The Donor Party.

Well, I'll put you all out of I'll put you all out of your misery. I know it's all you're on tenterhooks.

Yes. But that was

Arthur Askey.

Alright.

Really? Arthur

Askey.

And, by the way, just so you know, my dad my dad hated Arthur Askey.

So did my dad. My dad couldn't stand him. He said he he bloody detested him, my dad. Yeah. That that's something in common there. Yeah.

He he actually switched it off when he came on. He couldn't stand. My dad did too. He came. Yeah. He just couldn't Oh, we might we might as well have been brothers, Eric. It's just amazing. Yeah. Every he came on to Parkinson a couple of times, and he every time he came on, he always used to sing that song Hello, pie, mate. Bee.

Hello, pie, mate. He got a busy little bee and go bzz bzz bzz. I'm a busy little bee. And my dad used to go, bloody busy little bee.

Just turn like, oh. Holy hell. It was so funny.

I hate that bloke. He's not funny. And he he wasn't he wasn't really. But, anyway, he made us happy momentarily until we found out who he was. And now the song's rubbish, everybody. So we hope you didn't enjoy it. That's right.

And and Mark Anthony's come up with the goods. Thanks, mate. He always comes up with a he's fantastic. I always comes up the goods. He said the song that I was talking about by market Marty Wilde is Abba Gavini.

Uh-huh. And he made a song. Is that a happy song, is it? Yeah. Just Abergavenny. Yes. Alright. We're going to Abergavenny, and it's it's I mean, what a weird name of a place, Abergavenny.

Speaking well, Welsh names are very distinctively Welsh, aren't they?

They

are. Apparently Welsh is, similar to Hebrew isn't it?

They can read Hebrew. They can read Paleo Hebrew and they can read hieroglyphs.

I mean, I don't mean all the Welsh people today but those that are familiar with the actual Welsh tongue. I mean it probably must be pockets now, a bit like

when the Cornish language finally disappeared.

But, maybe not because there has been I mean I remember in the 70s there was a big thing on the BBC. Don't they have, what is it, Clyde Cymru or Cymru or whatever it is? Yeah. But there's actually a Welsh language,

station which I think is great by the way. I'm not, you know, so if you're Welsh Yeah.

You know, I've got Welsh blood. My grandma was Welsh. She was an Edwards.

Or she she her mother was or something. So I'm about a sixteenth Welsh or something like that. Well, part Welsh. And,

yeah. It's probably why I like quite like singing. La la la la la. And there was actually some talk on the chat about a week back about male Welsh voice choirs and they are fantastic. They're absolutely brilliant.

Ah, that's why when I was a kid, I used to get the Welshies.

What does that mean then?

Daiaire.

Sorry.

Okay.

Don't

don't look at me. You invited him on the plane.

It's a good job we're in the it's a good job we're in the pub and not broadcasting this, is what I can say.

Holy moly.

Alright. Well, I'm I'm gonna put people out of their misery too. The the alternate title of the movie, The Daughter Party was simply

famished.

Oh. Famished.

Oh, it's a bit much, isn't it? It's a bit much.

Well, damn it. There's

a there's a Welsh town called a Biggawilly.

Admittedly,

it isn't written like that. A Bigger

Willy. But,

what about that film that was made about whales in Hollywood called was it Al

something out deep? Oh, what was it? What was it called now?

Something in our valley.

Green is our valley. But It's it's my valley. That's it. Oh. And, it was Americans

trying to put on Welsh accents.

And, Roddy McDowell might was that was the first film he did in about '13. And it Oh, my head. That guy.

It was

in,

monkey films, wasn't he? Planet of the Apes. Yes. Planet of the Apes.

Yes.

No. That was a lot of crap. He was with Lassie, wasn't he? He was the Was he? He he was with in all those Lassie films. Yeah. I never I never liked the Lassie films. They just they were even as a young boy, prone to sentimentality,

even I noticed that there was so much of it, I couldn't breathe. It was just a little bit too much. And do you know there's about 27

Lassie?

There's 27 lassies,

and there were females, and it's supposed to be a male. So that's the first trans

dog that I actually had. No. No. Actually, they were Lassy was supposed to be female, but most of the dogs were male.

Oh, go around all the way around.

Yep.

And did you know that that breed of dog is the most damaged out of all the out of all the dogs?

Apparently, they're supposed to be

A collie? Collie. Yeah. A collie dog. Yeah. Collies are not very bright.

They're about six too short planks.

I mean, are they they're not named after cauliflowers, are they? It's spelled c o l l I e. I thought it was a Collie dog or something, but by the way, I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know anything about dogs, really, except they've got four legs and they and bark a bit. They're they're herding.

They're herding dogs, so really all they need to know is how to get a sheep motivated to go where they want it to go. And they usually do that by nipping them in the back of the legs.

But,

I had a Shetland sheepdog

and

a Siberian husky at the same time.

And,

the Right.

Shetland sheepdog,

he was a pretty smart boy. He was well trained, and he was cute, and he was small. He was too small to be a show dog even though he was show quality.

But it was

the

the Siberian

husky

that actually

knew how to get in trouble.

We went we went to the home improvement store. We were gone, like, fifteen minutes when we came back.

Bandit,

and, yes, that was the dog's real name, Bandit,

had found

the two pounds of rib eye steaks on the kitchen counter, and they were gone.

They were gone. We weren't even able to find the wrapper.

And another time we were gone. Sheepdogs

Sheepdogs are amazing. I mean, it's the only dog I'd really want and I'm absolutely the least fit person on the world in the world to have it because it's got to be put to work. There's a fantastic clip.

It must have gone viral. It's up in the Yorkshire Dales, of course.

Muddy sort of track going off into a field. This guy these dogs just sat there looking at him. He goes,

so it's just like one word, like go, right?

You just see this dog pelt off into the distance. Camera's just sat there. It disappears just slightly over the brow of this hill. You wait in about twenty-thirty seconds. Suddenly there's about 100 sheep. This one dog, right,

is basically

moving a 100 sheep. They all come down.

It's just so impressive.

It's just and they it's the bond that they have

with the guy and they love to work and you love to see him work and it's just fabulous. It's absolutely they're very, very bright. I remember I was up at my brother's about fifteen years or so ago for a party. There was a guy that this is up in Yorkshire, I was back up there. There was a guy that was just taught and he said oh yeah, he said I had one. He said it was just too smart. I said what do you mean? He said

well we used to, we thought it was going out at night

and so,

and just going off and doing its own stuff. He said so I put a lock on the gate and all this sort of like a latch key lock. Not a a lock, not one that you put a key in but, what do you call it? A latch gate, you know? Yeah. I know.

He said, so

I I I got we got up one night, it's about 04:00 in the morning. It's like it's summer. Dawn's gone and dog, he said, the dog

crept out goes up to the gate gets up there opens the door comes back and shuts it.

Suddenly he didn't even know it had gone.

And then one day

he actually went and caught a train.

He went and caught a train. His dog got on a train

and they found it. They got a phone call because he had a tag a collar around it. They said, yeah. We your dog's obviously he's just got off a train in Skipton or somewhere. He'd gone about 15 miles on the train. That's a dog that knew how to get around a bit. It's very impressive, isn't it? It's very impressive. That's very impressive. Do like all that. Yeah. But, come in street dog trials and never say which dog was guilty, do they? Because they used to have it on on television. You know? But, That's

wrong. Justice, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, dear.

That Used to Whitler said,

have you noticed how on TV and radio I don't know I don't have a TV they celebrate Welsh Scottish and Irish music,

folk music but never English English folk music is fantastic

and as an Englishman

the instruments resonate

there's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart

you know

you are

home yes I agree with you well it's Catherine Tickle isn't it she plays

like bagpipes but they shove underarm

have you seen those bagpipe

things? They're very weird,

very different to the Scottish ones, the Northumbrian

pipes.

That's Catherine Tickle.

Who else is there?

But,

no. You don't hear English folk music very much. Don't hear it at all, in fact.

So that was from Playford.

Yeah, you remember my anecdote about dancing a few years ago? Yes.

That's what they were playing

all night.

That stuff. That's Playford, yeah, who

compiled all this stuff in the 1600s. Actually the guy that I met, Coleman,

not that you'll be catching this but if he is, Hi Coleman, he just emailed me the other day. I've just been busy. I think his first email I've had from him two years. Get your finger out mate! No, I hadn't written to him either.

But he's, he plays that stuff.

He's from Chicago of Irish descent

and

he plays it and it's interesting. Just to back you up, Kingston Whitler,

he

sent me all these videos of going around The States playing all this old this type of folk music with these organized dances. They're really very, yeah brilliant.

It's really good. And he said to me when we were as I got he said look I play all of the stuff. I play the Irish and all this stuff he said but the best to me is the English stuff. I said really? And of course it was embarrassing because I'd not really listened to it. I couldn't have named I couldn't have said the word Playford to him because I didn't three or four years ago when we met. Actually, it's probably a bit longer than that. And,

but it's an amazing story about all that stuff and there really is something

Yeah, it's difficult to start off with to the modern ear because you're used to a din right and being overpowered by stuff

and much more dramatic and heavy sort of sound and all that. So it's very light and almost thin to the modern ear but the melodies that are in it and the structures are fantastic and they're very dignified and you can begin to sort of smell civilization

in the in the whole thing. So that's what we're gonna have to do at the Fockem Hall Festival.

I 100% agree with you there because I am sick of well, I was in my car the other day, and there's a car dropped next to me. And all I could do was

What is it?

And this chap, it's not music. It's just a loud drumming beat like savages do. You know?

Have you have you found that? You know? Do you get that to where Yeah. I know exactly. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I just thought your comment earlier, Eric, was such I'd not really thought of it that way that there's very little happy music made. There is. Everything's dramatic. Everything is that something really intense is about to happen. We're just being so we think it is. Music's incredibly powerful. I mean, it's off the charts powerful as music. It really is.

Couple of little comments here though just backing up. Kingston Whitlow went on to say about the Playford stuff. He says,

there's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart. You know you're at home. Yep. I do. I know exactly what you mean. Absolutely right.

And you know what this means, Eric, is that if we do have dancing at the Fockham this Fockham Hall Festival

Yes.

You're gonna have to dance, which of course is gonna make your father turn in his grave. Right? Sorry about that. And we're gonna have to get a dance we're gonna have to get a dance master. One of the guys that knows all the steps. They're called callers, I think.

Who's gonna have to boss us all around and tell us what to do. That's gonna be that'd be hilarious actually. It will. It would be such good fun, wouldn't it? But you but do you think they'll say,

do you think the spirit of my father will come down and say, screw me. Is is he queer? No. I don't think he is. He might be queer. I'm not too sure. Excuse me. Are you a queer?

No. No. No. He's just trying to dance. He's quite drunk right now. That's Eric's messes. Yes. He's dancing. Oh. He's

quite strong.

He's not a queer. He's just out

of

fuel.

I'd have to be drunk to death. Perhaps as you know, too many.

Mark Aydney said Mark Aydney said it. He said, I bought my wife one of those sheepdog bras for her birthday.

It's really good. It rounds them out and points them in the right direction.

Oh, gosh. This is a really good pub. I'm coming back to this one. This is a good pub.

Oh, good lord. Yeah. But,

no. It

but, really, there is something about,

what makes me laugh is, Vera Ling singing the White Cliff. Was it the bleep be Bluebirds over the White Cliffs Of Dover? There's no Bluebirds over over over White Cliffs Of Dover because that record that song was actually written by an American. There never been a Dover in his life.

You'd think they'd rearrange the lyrics, wouldn't you? Yeah. I don't know. Right. Well They were fat birds over I don't know. I don't know what they could have called them really. Since the beginning of time. Actually.

Since the beginning of time, music has been to connect to earth, to connect to spirit, to connect to God,

and to actually resonate with the resonant frequency of the organs. Of music is supposed to be an uplifting, a healing, and healthy

thing to expose yourself to. And what they did in 1940

was they changed from a four thirty two to a four forty, and then they started working on the lyrics. And, oh my god, then came ramp,

you know, where they're trying to convince us that talking about,

bitches and blowing a hole in the hose and all that shit is music? No. I don't think so. It's just negative. It's sub it's sub it's subliminal programming. It's subconscious

deterioration

of your very,

very soul,

and that's what we're exposing ourselves to. Don't do it. With you.

But Just Alex Gorgias

has said,

and I agree here. Well, actually said, and I think we're getting throat close to this. Sorry to be a pain chaps, but may we please have a few solutions

to our current situation.

I feel like a sitting duck. Cheers.

Well, one of the solutions, I believe,

is to try and,

shouldn't say this, but

we have a better,

shall we say,

he who wins the airwaves

has won.

Yes. And our enemy controls the airwaves.

We don't. I think we should control the airwaves. And then we can pump out lovely English music

like that, and we can that is the,

the way forward is getting control. It's like a game of chess. We've gotta get to the center of that board. I'm a master of that center of the board, and we're not And

and never forget that all politics is local.

Get with your friends. Get with your neighbors.

Local communities.

Bring yourselves together with such a tight bond that they cannot break you apart because that is what they are trying to do. They are trying to separate people

because as herd animals,

humans

can accomplish great things.

Unless they're alone in the woods,

they are fodder for the foxes.

Get together with your neighbors.

Yeah. Well, if we look at everything since 1945,

music being a main strand,

it's been to bring that about. I mean, we we come back to this topic,

repeatedly, and we will continue to do so because it's important. The family is the pinnacle of civilization.

I'm just going to say that because it is.

And therefore,

the the higher the quality of families and more people that are involved in high quality families either as parents and or as children

the better

for for for us all. And you're right about the airwaves and about writing and about festivals.

It's simply I think to a great degree

we have to find a way to reassert our culture. I'm so glad that we talked about the English folk music actually because

I've got about four hours of Playford music which I need to break up into the tracks and we can start to run them on soapbox in between.

That's why we run the old stuff. There's a reason for it okay? I know that everybody wants the modern stuff or at least I'm told that but there's no point even going there. I mean it's just it's not good.

I've even heard I was listening to Geoff Rents earlier today. They were talking about the reception that people are giving to AI music and they're all finding it lovely

because it's scientifically

designed now. It's dead really. It's a dead thing but it's scientifically designed to sort of work on certain emotion sets and key sets within you and they know what they're doing. It's like the whole world's gonna become an algorithm and it's frankly not much fun. That's why I think we talk about tactile things here like candles

and old music and clothes.

Things that connect you into

a much healthier way of living.

I I agree I agree with you,

and I I think that,

when we I think we reached our peak in music around about nineteen seventies

when we had what was called progressive rock. Now what that was I mean, when you look at look at that record, Marrakesh Express, how clever that is,

how they put that together. That was a very clever and,

do you remember a group called Focus? Do you remember that? Where you got classical music and put it to rock?

That's the one. That's the one.

Yes. That's it.

Jan Jan Ackerman, who could really make a really knew how to play the old guitar,

those people, they reached their peak. And then now what we got?

Rubbish. I was gonna say crap. It's been rude.

Well, it's just it's it's just a business like the movie business is more of a business. That's why you just get all these sequels and all the films are the same

and all the plots are shallow

and people, in my view, people read things into modern films that are simply not there.

It's tripe piffle. Most of it is completely rubbish. But I want to just go back to what you said Paul about rap music which of

course is

it betrays the heritage of Afro American music if that's what I'm supposed to call it. I'm not trying to upset anybody. I'm just you know what I'm talking about. It really does

because there were

lots of really really good stuff like Louis Jordan and his timpani five or whatever it was called creating jump music and all sorts of things. But if you look at it it's a movement towards a more animalization

of the dancing process. This was by design as well. It took a long time to lead into it. I'm not blaming it, I'm just pointing it out. But the other point came up Who was I listening to the other day?

Delingpole.

James Delingpole was interviewing somebody about something. This was only a small part of the show. It wasn't about this. It was an observation that heavy metal

was to white kids what rap music has been to black and I completely agree with that. I went through a period of I could never ever listen to that stuff. I liked heavy rock

where there

was a degree of instrumentalisation.

I'm 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 that kind of age. I thought much of it was fantastic. It was brilliant. It was the soundtrack to my youth whether I liked it or not and I didn't I liked it but I didn't like much of it. The stuff I liked I really liked. Everybody said listen to this crap crap crap crap. I hated Black Sabbath just to let you know. Sorry if you're an Ozzy Osbourne fan. I couldn't stand all that stuff. It's turgid. It's a downer.

It is dark. Their name's dark. I thought what are you doing? Is it all to be cool or something? And everybody started dressing in black and I'm going nah, I don't want anything to do with this. It's not exhilarating

and that's what heavy metal music is to me. It is not exhilarating. It's not heavy at all.

It's just

just loud.

Well it's just, you know, it's just guys with guitars go look at the size of my amplifier. I'm playing power chords for four hours going yeah, all right mate, I'll come back.

And now for example, although we don't want to get up. Yeah. If I take Pink Floyd and you look at the whole array, that's a different kettle of fish. It's a totally different kettle of fish. It's like orchestral music using modern instruments.

It's it's a much richer experience.

So I, you know, you have to finesse with these sorts of things and and musicians are a result of the age that they live in and the technologies of musical instruments that they live in. But what we've seen I think just like with smartphones and everything is the more advanced the technology's got, the less advanced, the more retarded the music has become. It's actually because everybody thinks they can be a musician,

you know. Everybody thinks they're equal to everybody else. You're not. I don't even want it. The idea of a handful of brilliant musicians

being known

is how it should be, isn't it? They're sort of like they're held up by everybody else. You go every now and again exceptional talents turn up and it's worth everybody to recognize it and appreciate it when it turns up not to be sort of have this guff pumped into your head 20 fourseven. I mean,

I couldn't listen to radio in the seventies and the eighties for music. I mean, I never listened to it. It was just exhausting. I couldn't understand how a DJ I can't I can't to this day Consider and just play record after record after record for three hours and driving you and do it five days a week.

Doesn't he drive you mad? I know. I mean

And I think this is so awkward. Treat. Don't you think music was a treat at work? Because I'd come home. I spent a lot of money on a hi fi when I was about 18. I mean, it cost me a lot. It cost me all my wage back. You know? I've still got the amp to this day, right? It cost me £220

in 1978

when £220

was an enormous amount of money. I was only £70 a week, right? It was like four months wages

and, I've still got it and it's lasted. It's absolutely brilliant and I put things on and all my mates went into this stuff

and it I guess it all depends what, you know, that's what we did. That's what we did back then. But we thought it was the coolest thing going and it was in a way. It's fantastic. Drinking coffee,

playing risk,

listening to records, shouting at one another, playing pylon.

Oh, those are the days. What an old fart I am. But it was great. Do you remember Isso Tomita? Isso Tomita was a Japanese bloke who used electronics

to do Debussy and

classics. And when and when he actually performed on stage, he had his back to the audience. He had all these electronic bits all round and all these all high-tech stuff. Unfortunately, he's dead now, but

he he did one. What is it now?

His first album was absolutely mind blowing. He did Debussy, and it was absolutely incredible.

And,

yeah. So if you can look him up, anybody wants to look him up on the Internet,

the engulfed cathedral

by

Iso Tomita.

Genius. It really is. It it it is a marvelous piece that he did, and he's Japanese.

And,

yeah, it's just sad. He's he's part of the It's a difficult topic to talk about because

music is. It runs deep with all of us, doesn't it? Yeah. I think it does because there's so much emotional attachment that you might have to a piece of music that might not even be that good, but you heard it at just the right time. You know, when that girl came through the door or you were at that disco that night trying desperately not to dance or whatever you were doing. There are certain tracks that have a very strong evocative sort of draw on your memory

about all these things. But, I mean I don't know whether we're going to win the hearts and minds of our people back by playing Playford music from the 1600s. Probably not. It's too big a leap in the ear of the day.

But it's, you know, it's looking at how we arrange all these sorts of things to actually create

a cultural diet, as it were, of this different stuff. And I think that there there is definitely a difference. I mean there's a in terms of you only have to go back a few years, like even to the 80s, and there's a sense of buoyancy

not necessarily about the music but just in life

and a much simpler thing. And is it the case that the smartphone has got now an awful lot to answer for? Because I think it is literally

stupefying people. They're becoming

stupefied

because the dopamine hit is so high. Everything else is boring. They don't do anything much. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people are doing loads loads more because they're able to organize their life. I don't know what to think about that. I I don't know about that, but you listen to, for instance, for example, Genesis.

They brought out an album. What was it now? Was it selling England by the pound? I think that's the right one. Right.

Fantastic.

You listen to it. It's mind blowing.

And you think, wow. I mean, that is a modern English music. That's modern English.

And and that all went

in the nineteen eighties. It it it reached a peak in the late seventies

and just sort of died in the eighties.

What happened in the eighties? Something went wrong Mhmm. With our music, and it just lost. There is some creative music, but modern now, there's nothing. Absolutely small hat can think of. Small hat wearers took over the music industry.

Yes. That's what happened in the seventies and the eighties.

Music was actually bastardized.

Plain and simple. Yes, I'll do it. Yeah. I'm absolutely What do you think? There's Genesis on board with you. Oh, Genesis. Do you remember? Phil

Collins.

I mean,

just, you know, Genesis, awesome. Phil Collins,

completely off the hook, extremely talented guy.

Extremely talented guy. And that was back when music was actually I mean, there's the difference between

the the artists today that you have to use auto tune because without it, they couldn't sing their way out of a bag.

And the the bands of the sixties, the seventies, and the eighties,

they actually had real talent. They had trained voices.

They were good.

And the instruments that they played, they were amazing

musicians Mhmm. Plain and simple. And

what we are exposed to today is nothing but a bastardized

automated,

auto tuned piece of crap

that

before

I have even heard stories that before an album is released, they put all of the albums in a room, and then black witches

go in there, and they

they make can incantations

over the albums before they're distributed.

They actually

curse music. Wouldn't surprise me. Won't won't surprise me at all. Go back further. Pick up your album. Can you think of someone

can you think of someone whose music you don't like but that you know is good?

Slim Whitman.

I don't know. You're making me think about Ma's attacks.

Oh, my no. My Ma loved Slim Whitman. She was,

we would actually make a pilgrimage every time Slim Whitman was at a place called,

Trollhagen.

It was a ski area in Wisconsin. We lived in Minnesota. We would actually travel

from Minnesota to Wisconsin every time Slim Whitman

was appearing at Trollhagen.

And Slim Whitman, I mean, he's a good old southern boy, and and

he called it ski Hogan.

He's just funny guy,

but my ma absolutely loved him. My ma knew personally Slim Whitman,

knew Tammy Wynnatz,

knew Loretta Lynn.

She was on first name basis with all of them.

And Mhmm.

That

that was that was when real music occurred

and when real music could be heard. I can't stand Alan Bennett. And when I first started work,

you could buy loads of cheap records. You see, I I worked in part of London where you get cheap records. And there's a fellow there, that I worked with, his parents loved,

Alan Bennett. But every LP cover had Alan Bennett

perspiring.

And it was, you know, Alan Bennett aspires in L Los Angeles. Alan Bennett

bought perspiration in California.

And everybody in her hands says his hand over the microphone stand. We're you know,

everyone's the same. I've been perspiring heavily. What was it, Alan? Did people go there to see him perspire or something? I mean, Alan Bennett a good step. Breaking a sweat in Belize.

That's

not true. I thought Alan Bennett was the

Yorkshire playwright.

Gordon Bennett was out of that. Not Gordon Bennett. You're thinking of someone else. I don't know who you're thinking of. Who is that stupid? Are you thinking of that he's an American crooner like in the Frank Sinatra mold? Yeah. He died recently. It's not That's right. For the time of bed.

Oh, yeah. I'll get it mixed on that. Oh my god. That's funny. He's really good. Well, no. That's cool. The musician the musician I was thinking of that I don't that I don't like

but oh I think he's good is Elvis Costello.

Yes.

Mhmm.

And I say that because I was never really much into lyrics when I was young but later on

I looked at this and somebody that I knew who was into all the lyrical side said he's one of the best lyric writers ever.

I went and read and they're extremely,

how can I put

it, dense in terms of compressing loads of ideas into very few lines? There's a lot going on with them. My problem with Elvis Costello is I just

felt that his voice couldn't carry emotion

and so it left me slightly cold. I know he started off as a punky stuff and some of that stuff, Pump It Up is pretty cool if you're into all that kind of stuff from that period. And that was the sort of thing we listened to in the common room in the in the 1977

or whatever. But I was never really into punk rock either.

But Elvis Costello developed into something much more talented than that, which was mind you, his dad was a big band leader, I think, wasn't he? He used to run a big band in the forties and fifties. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Actually,

Alan Bennett. Now hang on. Who is that? Tony Bennett. That's the one with Tony Bennett. Alice Alice, gorgeous. No. Alan Bennett's gonna stick now. This is so funny. Tony. Tony Bennett. Alan Alan Bennett's mundane bits. Mundane bits because that's how he talks.

That's right. That was Tony Bennett.

Very dry.

In Los Angeles. Yes. You know, heavily sweating.

Alan Bennett.

He should change his name by Deep Hole.

Because I've never understand that record. Was it I lost my

because,

you can imagine we rearrange the words to I lost my heart in San Francisco

to no, I won't say, but

rather a flatulent version.

But you used to sing it as well, didn't you?

Probably. Yes. Yeah. But but this is a this is a family show. Family show, so I got it. Tonight.

Absolutely.

Just,

Alice, I was just wondering, by the way, if you have any solutions, if they're brief enough for you to write them down or anything that you think we ought to talk about, just throw it in there. That goes for everybody, by the way. If you think the things that we ought to jump out and look at I I want to just jump over now to

banking.

Maybe I should have it a special time in the show. Oh, it's half past the hour. It's time for ten minutes of banking, Bilge.

I'm slowly getting a little bit more active on X and, somebody put a post I just wanted to read you a couple of things because I actually ended up responding to it. So I suppose it's bigging me up or something but it's not. I just want to just share it really. Somebody put a post up. It's a very funny clip. You probably remember it, Paul.

It's of

Johnny Carson

laughing his socks off whilst holding a little baby baby orangutan in his hands. I don't know if you ever remember the clip because this orangutan is very sweet but he's looking at him really fixedly and he gets slightly hysterical.

But the headline

is banks watching you pay interest on the money they lent you after they printed it out of thin air. Right? It's quite witty actually. I quite liked it.

The first comment

is very useful,

from somebody called Garrett Courtney who's probably not hearing this, but I like this comment simply because it it opened things up. He said, that's not exactly how how that works. This is simplified but your bank balance is the money the bank owes you.

You gave them that money and they loan it to other people. You're paying interest on other people's money that they loan to you not money that they just made up. Okay,

now as regular listeners here will know,

although Garrett's well meaning,

it's completely wrong what he's written. That's not how it works. So my little response was very simple. I said when you borrow $10,000

the bank creates it out of thin air.

You pay back $10,000 plus interest.

Interest is usury, the great bloodsucker

and why The US is $33,000,000,000,000

in debt. Banking is a criminal enterprise. If your business did what a bank did,

you would be imprisoned.

And that's accurate apart from one fact

because I heard the news this morning and Paul, I'm glad to inform you that The US debt is now not 33,000,000,000,000

but $37,000,000,000,000.

How about that? I know. So between me, right, it went up 4,000,000,000,000 this afternoon.

I know.

I know. I know. No. The the money is not made out of thin air. The money is made,

by securitizing

bonds and the birth records of the people.

The money that gets made out of thin air is the interest

that is charged

on that money.

You know, like, when you buy something, you buy a $10,000

car. You have a promissory note for $10,000

plus what you expect to pay in interest.

Well,

the economy is actually funded by $10,000

because there's $10,000

worth of bonds created to match that. But the interest that you pay on that note over the life of it, that is money that is made out of thin air. That, it goes immediately

to the national debt.

It doesn't pass go. It does. I mean, I'm sure there are probably there are probably even more layers of,

smoke and mirrors in the whole process.

I think I mentioned a few weeks ago, and I I've gotta look this up

because,

we've had this

fact running around. It is a fact that all the countries of the world are in debt. So the logical question is who are they all in debt to? They can't be one another if they're all in debt.

Of course, the usual answer rightly up to a point is the central bank cartel. Okay,

but but the next step in that which I have to explore a bit more is that that's not strictly true because

I think it's to do with

before they can generate the money in this $10,000

example,

before they can do that the thing that releases it is your

signature. Right. In other words,

it would seem to me

that you create the money unbeknownst to yourself because you're in a state of not knowingness when you're in there thinking that the bank's doing it and the bank are quite happy to let you do it.

But what they're basically stepping in,

and not allowing that thought to even occur in your head and creating the impression that they've done it. But they can't do it without your signature

which is part of this

trust arrangement or you being worth your weight in coal gold or your certificate of lading or whatever you want to call it when you were born through the birth certificate and then they own you. All of this kind of stuff.

It's literally always a case of the servants are deceiving

the true

master. Right. I don't like using the word master, but you get this all the time. All Right. All all the time. But do you know what's truly despicable?

They would like us to believe John McTernan?

Among others.

They would like us to believe that we owe the national debt. No.

We don't.

The national debt is a portion of that debt that is actually owed to us, the ones that actually created the money in the first place.

That instead is owed to us. There's no

I know. It's just a pity, Paul, that there's no annual meeting where we get our Divvy back.

That's never happened. Right?

No. Any other entity would be getting dividends.

Yeah. It's They would. And I

I mean, irrespective of whatever the full mechanics are and no doubt they coming up with more sort of multistage

confusion points to charge service fees as they talk you through this, that, and the other nonsense.

The bottom line is that if a normal businessman did what a bank did, you'd be imprisoned for it. Absolutely. It's as simple as that.

Lock them. And you Pull them up, throw away the key, throw them in a hole throw them in a hole so deep you gotta pump sunshine into them. That's that's where the people would be.

That's Yep.

Because Boy, I'm glad we don't talk about banking much.

Well, I like to, you know, I like to bounce back to it.

By the way, of course it's all completely intertwined with the lure

and

after,

those of you tuned a couple of weeks ago know that

Hannah was on and I said last week that I was due to go to her meeting on Thursday. Now if you- I appear with Eric quite regularly now on a Monday evening on Fockeham Hall radio, so if you caught it,

I'm gonna say this again, but we were due to go to a meeting that Hannah was holding in London on Monday just past four days ago.

In the end I didn't go

and in the end that was the right thing to do because it didn't take place,

because Hannah didn't speak for all sorts of reasons which are slightly sort of soap opera y and I don't want to go into them all. Then nothing too unpleasant. But there was no real reason for her to be there and,

in terms of logistics

I've decided I'm never really ever going to entertain the idea of going to anybody's meeting in London in Hackney on a Monday evening ever again because looking at it it really was a nightmare

And, Eric suitably put me off as he was going through it, and I think,

aunt Sally was due to go as well because I was looking forward to meeting you guys. But we're gonna have to do it at the Fockem Festival or the Fockem Festival planning committee at some cafe in Kneesden or wherever we end up meeting. And,

so it all turned out for the best. However, over the weekend,

she put me in touch with a chap called I'll just call him Stuart for now, and I may get him on the show.

He's an amazing guy.

I I felt I've spoken to him and,

you see, his his knowledge is so detailed on court procedure and the true understanding of the words.

I spoke to him for two hours on Saturday and my head hurt. I said I've got to stop. Oh, good Lord. We have to tell him on the show.

I can't I can't bring it in fast enough

and I wanted to mention this to you because something I think good is gonna come out of this. One of the things that happened towards the end of the conversation with him is we got around to talking about a point that we mentioned here and this Alice Agorges sort of comes around to looking at solutions

about communications approaches. I think

I've mentioned here is the most tedious stuff, isn't it? On my seaside, on my shoreline walks, I'm thinking about communications packages which is awfully pathetic really. But, seriously, I think it's important.

We're doing a three hour pub meeting here tonight. This is why it's moving around a bit. There's nothing really planned. You can probably tell.

Spontaneity

is the keyword. That's what we want. We're gonna tap into sensible things. We're gonna goof off for fifteen-twenty minutes as well. That's fine. It's a bit like a pub chat. We'll keep it like this until people complain oh nobody turns up and says we've had enough. I mean you know everything has its day. However,

if I look back at if you consider how most people learn about these

hidden blocks of information, it's through reading books.

Generally, it's your best bet and you have to read quite a few to inter

relate them and check things and you go and slowly but surely you begin to see a pattern and of course the internet has aided us immeasurably in that process. In fact, most of us got drawn into this because suddenly

there were really quirky, odd and puzzling books being announced in certain places. You must have a look at that. What's that all about? And it draws people in which has been absolutely fantastic. The sort of, you know, everything that was hidden being

will be revealed type process as mentioned in scripture and I think this is definitely a key part of it.

But most people do not sit down and read long books. Now if I've just offended you write in and say Paul we all read long books I might be misreading it wrong but I don't think they do. Right? I mean I don't think people are going to read Stephen Zarlanger's The Lost Science of Money at 900 pages or whatever it is. They're not going to do that and when I say most people I mean just average very busy pressurized working people And I'm not trying to be patronizing because those people are people that, I value a great deal.

We it's this process of standing together. Anyway, whilst I was talking to Stuart, this sort of came up towards the end and we've mentioned it here, haven't we, that

you go to school

and they don't teach you anything at all

about the true operations of law. They certainly don't tell you what your status in law is. They wouldn't even know how to begin that as a class.

And they don't teach you anything about central banking, how credit works,

and how you are basically gonna be a plaything of the banking cartel for the rest of your life. They're not they don't tell you any of that. And just standing back from this alone

and looking at that, you go, that is not just bizarre, it's obviously in a way criminal

to suggest

that when people leave school at the age of 18 they know much of any real use. They know how to

be an obedient

slave or employee in this system. I don't care how many degrees you've got. The The problem with nearly everybody's got degrees is they don't know this stuff. This is like this is the foundational stuff of your life. You're gonna spend more time

fretting over bills and how to meet them, particularly now as they're pumping them through the roof. I just got my water bill through the other day. £350.

It's a joke. I'm going Oh, good lord. Oh, yeah. I've got that floating around somewhere. £350

for three months water. I mean, it's just nuts. That's like $450,

Paul, just to let you know,

for water. Wow. It's just for water. Right? For water? So,

yeah, just for water. Yeah. And I don't drink water but for water. I use a water distiller and all this kind of stuff. Everything's nuts.

Rainwater collection.

Rainwater collection. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. So, I mean, and in talking to Stuart, towards the end of our conversation, I said, well, we've got to because we're going through so many words and I'm going, okay.

I'm gonna have to do a copy briefing. This is what I said to myself. So I used to be a copywriter. I sit down with a client.

You go, right. Okay. I've got a pencil and a pad. I'm gonna sit here for an hour. I'm gonna pick your brains and I'd have a whole series of questions to go through to find out what they were doing so that I could actually write something that made sense to him. Right? So he'd go, yeah. Yeah. That's what our customers need to know. Fantastic. Because, you know, you've got to get everything out of their head. This is the ultimate test I think with this with this law stuff. It really

is because the words are so

there's just a blizzard of them.

Anyway, towards the end of the call, against my point, I mentioned this thing about I said what we really need to be doing

we need to be writing very brief, crisp, clear,

joyous, I mean this, happy documents. It's a happy document, right?

That everybody can read quick and get it. They can grok

the meat of it fast and then there needs to be a second stage

and even a third for those that really and there will be a small percentage that will want to tunnel into it to the nth degree. Fantastic. It might not be your bag of tricks but you should be really glad that it's going to be somebody's

amongst our tribe because it will be. We've always produced that.

So this is really good. And I said this to him about 16 year olds. He said, if you gave me some 16 year olds in two weeks, he said, I could have them crystal clear and they would know exactly what to do every single time in a court. I said you've just outlined the copy brief. That's exactly what we have to do. We have to put material together

for 16 year olds. Whatever you might think a 16 year old is. I suppose it's a boy, a young man, and a young woman right now looking at their phone. Oh, they can vote now apparently through their phone probably instantaneously for people that don't know anything about anything but never mind. Anyway, I wrote down a list of words. This is going to be a bit tedious but I just wanted to this is not even anywhere near a complete list.

This just came out of my conversation with Stuart the other day for which I thanked him and thank you now Stuart if you're hearing this. Let me just run through them and see how many you know. You might think you know them because I think I sort of know them but I need them absolutely

crystal clear in my head. So there's jurisdiction. We're not going to try and answer any of these, right? I just want to run through the list. There's jurisdiction, there's jurisprudence,

trusts,

trustee,

beneficiary,

true primary executor,

secured party creditor, the crown, a crown agent,

living man, living woman, legal person, natural person, legalese,

legal entities,

private, public, commerce, nature,

standing,

court, barrister,

assumption, presumption,

and statutes. That's just for starters.

So I think we need

a little book. I don't know what you think. Chairman Mauridi's little red book. I was thinking the the little yellow book of law because it's almost a tongue twister like red lorry yellow lorry. We need a little yellow book. I need it. I personally need it,

because in going through these things

I think it's possible to teach this stuff and the way I personally have to I've got to teach myself it. We should be able to talk about this stuff easy peasy like people could talk about football scores. It's a little bit more challenging than that I accept. But we've got to get to that point because

its strength is on

keeping people in this condition of being in the dark about what they're really saying. And he also mentioned, I'll just I'll stop in a second, one last thing to just mention from our conversation the other day. He was talking, he said

if you ever get pulled over

or a constable

or a police officer

or whatever the title is and we need to know what that is, one of the questions that I said there's only really one question you have to say to them is

could you tell me what is the nature of your action?

Could you tell me what is the nature of your action? And the reason why that question, as I understand it at the moment,

I might get this wrong, why that question is so powerful is that the true nature of their action which they can't tell you is that they are acting in commerce.

This is basically a money shakedown. That's what it is. They can't admit that

so they won't admit it. And if they don't admit it or they don't respond to it properly

they put themselves in a position of dishonour.

And one other little point he mentioned which was really cool. You know we've talked about foul language everywhere

and the rise of it and of course we drop a few here every now and again because we're in the pub right? But

one of the things that Stewart was suggesting was that there's been an intentional

promotion of foul language through culture

because when you use it you go into a position of dishonour

and apparently I'm just using that word now it's apparent to my mind I don't know for certain right now at this moment in time

is the first person of the two parties to go into dishonour loses.

You don't go into dishonor.

And

it's just these little threads and thoughts. If this has bamboozled you a bit me just because it bamboozles me reading it out again, but I was taking copious notes. He even sent me a seventeen minute voicemail message yesterday. It was brilliant, Stuart, by the way, if you're listening. It was absolutely brilliant.

And with all these ideas about how we actually put this material together to get it to project out to a much larger audience, I don't know if that's what you're thinking of, Alice Gorges, but that's the sort of solutions that I'm or work line that I'm thinking about at this moment in time. So

I cannot hear I cannot wait to hear that show.

I just cannot wait to hear that show because every single one of those words

is a hot button that I've been living and breathing for the last three years.

Every single one of those words. People don't know the definitions of those words.

And, I mean, come on. We have enough confusion because they change the definitions of words, like, on a periodic basis. So

when you think of the word

of a word and what it means,

it may mean that that day, but it may not mean that nine months later. And guess what? They're using the new definition.

You are still using the old one. When they're talking about resident,

you think your residence is where you live. It's your address. That's where you lay your head down. No. When they ask you if you're a resident,

they're asking you if you

are

part

of their political

status.

They're asking you Mhmm. If you were agreeing to be,

judged by

residents

under,

like, say, the District Of Columbia,

DC.

It's not even part of The United States. I live in New York. When they say, are you a resident of the state of New York? Number one, state of New York is a political subdivision of Washington DC. There's one.

And number two,

they're asking me if you're a resident. They're asking me if I'm a resident of DC

and under the jurisdiction

and thumb of federal law.

I'm not.

Don't

I know.

It's it's for you and me and everyone to look. By the way, if you're out there listening to this and you think it's boring

and tedious,

let us know because it might be. I've sometimes what happens I think there's a little line where people go over it you get so into it you can't see that that everybody else has fallen asleep. It's really difficult on radio to know that. What are they droning on about? That used to be my response. It probably there's still a great part of me doing that. However, we're coming to the end of the hour so I want to sign off from WBN.

Thanks everybody on WBN three two four. We'll be back again same time next week. I'm also on with Ria Bowe this Sunday in the final hour. That's two till three UK time whatever it is in US time, nine till ten on Sunday. We'll see you then. I'm gonna play a Monty Python song which is all about happiness which you will all know. So we're gonna play it and,

we'll be back after this on the other side. You wanna join us, head on over to paulenglishlive.com

where the show will carry on.

See you after this happy little song. Excellent.

Some things in life are bad.

They don't really make you mad.

Other things just make you swear and curse.

When you're chewing on life's whistle,

back or grumble,

give a whistle,

and this'll help things turn out for the best.

Always look on the bright

side of life.

Always look on the light

side of life.

If life seems jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten,

and that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.

When you're feeling in the dumps,

dab you silly chumps.

Just purse your lips and thistle, that's the thing.

Always

seat, give the audience a goin'.

Enjoy it, it's your last chance of

before you draw your terminal breath.

Life's a piece of shit

when you look at it.

Life's a laugh and that's a joke, it's true.

You'll see it's all a show, keep them laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

It does mean. Oh. What about that? Charity.

Yeah. That is it's cool, ain't it? And that and that was the because they usually go beep. They bleep bleep a lot of that out, but they you got the one that isn't bleeped out, which is good.

Well, we're in the pub. We don't need that. We don't need no bleeping when we're in the pub. No. We don't need no bleeping when we're in the pub. No. We don't need no bleeping when we're in the pub. No. We don't need no bleeping when we're in the pub. What would have been bleeped in that song? I don't get it.

Life is a load of shit.

Oh, come

on.

Yeah. Oh, no. We can't say anything over here now.

Oh, have we already I haven't even looked into all the restrictions that are coming in supposedly and of course when we resist them we promote them even further. We sort of all our energy goes into going look at what they're doing look at what they're doing we're telling everybody

what they're doing. We actually act as a sort of megaphone for the whole nonsense. It's very difficult. Right. Yeah. I still think,

I still think the approach, I've mentioned this before with regards to these sorts of things, for example, with effectively

thoughtcrime coming in, let's just go there.

Mhmm. What we need to do again,

this is,

not one solution, but it's an attitude more than anything else, although it would be great to see it manifest in actuality,

is we need to get a goodly number of us. I would say, oh, a million should do it.

Well, they had a million man march somewhere, didn't they? So why can't we do that? And what we have to do is organize to all go to the police stations around the country on the same day at the same time

and arrest ourselves for thoughtcrime.

So that we've been committing thoughtcrime.

Yeah, we don't know exactly what it is but I'm reasonably sure I've been thinking things that you don't like and I think I need to be locked up and there's 50,000 more people at the front door they're coming in to do the same thing so you better get us all locked up. I want them locked up and they want me locked up because we're all committing thoughtcrime. And we think you should probably lock yourself up as well, sir, mister desk sergeant, because you've probably been committing it as well. So let's all just incarcerate ourselves. That'd do it, wouldn't it? Yes. Why? Yes. I don't know if that's silly.

I don't know if that would be of benefit because at least in The United States, the the prisons are all privatized,

and they actually securitize your incarceration.

And they make money on the fact that you broke one of their statutes, their acts, or codes, and you got locked up for

a victimless crime. That was that was, a code violation.

They actually make money on the fact that you're sitting there,

and they put you to work like in the private sector,

and they pay you 50¢

on the dollar or 50¢ an hour

to do something that another company would have to pay 15 to $18 an hour to have to actually hire people to do it. It's a win win Yeah. For the prison system.

It's a win win. Mhmm. They make a shit ton of money.

Yeah. Exactly.

It is involuntary

servitude

under the third

that's actually justified by the thirteenth amendment.

And

they do this all the while. They are actually feeding the prisoners

meat where the actual boxes are stamped,

not for human consumption.

Hello?

Why are you feeding it to people?

Why?

Because they can.

That's why indeed. It's ridiculous.

It's absolutely horrible,

and the prison system in The United States and around the world needs to be completely revamped. It needs to be taken apart limb from limb, piece by piece, and rebuilt

to something that actually

focuses on,

first of all, only crimes against humanity or only lawful crimes where there is an actual victim, where there's actually harm or injury.

Those are the crimes.

The victimless crimes,

screw you guys.

Go

peel Well, the real the real crime is the so called criminal justice system. That's a criminal Oh, it is. It's actually criminal. It is a criminal justice system, but not in the way that they intend you to understand it. I mean the thing I like

Although I am deluded and you have to forget my sort of wishful thinking. But the idea of large numbers of people doing something like that. First of all, it's peaceful.

It's harmful. It is a kind of wonderfully ironic joke

and therefore it would appeal across a broad base possibly. Although some people might say that's not what we want to do. We want to do a punch up. We don't want to do that. We don't want to go into violence or dishonour at all. If we can hold that ground,

you you know, I've often thought about this is that they come up with a regulation. What you do is you say that's not strong enough and you push it even harder so that it destroys everything. It's the speed. One of the great weapons they have is that they introduce

things very slowly

and create

residual apathy.

Right. They're continually

pumping into your head these ridiculous things which they then don't do anything about. They'll come back in a year, see if you've softened up, see if you're bored, see if you've lost interest, see if you've watched your phone enough, whatever they're doing right, and then they'll slowly creep in. You go I can't be bothered anymore. And that's the point where we just yield another part of being able to live our lives decently and honorably without these interfere the interfering class getting a greater hold on our day to day living, which is what this is all about. This whole thing about you will eat the bugs and be happy. You will not own anything and you'll be happy.

There's not there's not enough of a sufficient rebuttal. Certainly, you don't hear it from the news services. There should be some outraged pundits going who is this bald headed twat,

right, out in Switzerland talking crap? Because that's how it needs to be addressed. Get him in the pub here, we'll sort that lad out. He needs sorting out, you see, but we can't get to him. They live in this space

and they keep pumping out this puke, and they've been doing it very slowly. And it's very tragically, it's very effective, unfortunately.

Well, the bald headed twat is actually,

he's actually a historian

because he is talking about

what's already happened.

Because because under a feudal system, I mean, the government has monetized

people. They've monetized the birth certificates and your actual future labor.

It comes from the feudal system.

It comes from the Babylonian merchant code. And what he's talking about, you will owe nothing and you will be happy. Well, hello. You own nothing already.

When you register your motor vehicle with the Department of Motor Vehicles, you actually turn ownership of that vehicle over to the state and agree that anytime you operate it, you will be engaged in commerce and therefore

are under the scope

Department of Motor Vehicles and the Motor Vehicle

Code. That's something you did. So what you just said, Paul, what you just said, right,

that's a great example of what we have to break down

into little chunks.

Right? Because you know what you're talking about and I kind of do but it's got to be broken down so simply. It's almost forget even 16. Can you teach it to an eight year old?

I'm serious. I'm deadly serious about this. It's the most important thing. Little building blocks because

if you think about most people's emotional relationship to the law, it's one of anxiety.

Yes. And they're right to be anxious about it, right? They don't want we talk about. We don't want the knock on the door. They'll come and get you. All this kind of stuff. Who are they? Why are you anxious? You're anxious about it naturally

because you know nothing about it. You understand at least

that they have got all the cards in their hand. They're gonna play a game that you don't even know the rules of and they're likely therefore to win. And in 99 times out of a 100 cases, that's exactly what happens. So if we can, you know, well, I'm saying we, I'm going to be doing this or at least I've got drawn into doing this. It all comes out looking at the flags.

It's this simplification

of a very complex process

so that

normal people can go: Look, I know what jurisdiction means and you ain't got it mate.

And this

all of these things

that just need to be put in place so that people can get connected with

the honorable operations of lawful living. And this thing about living in the private and living in the public, I don't fully understand this. What you're just saying there about cars and commerce, commerce is in the public but you're you the flesh and blood man are in the private. Now even that sentence alone is is

a challenge to the mind. Right. Because everybody thinks we're just in it together dealing with this stuff and if we could just get a new government in, it'll all work out. Well, it can't ever work out because the entire operating

system,

the code for the operating system,

basically views you as a virus in it.

Right. It's basically what it does. But the problem is an operating system. The difference between the public and the private with per with respect to an automobile

is by contract

is because when you sign that depart that DMV motor vehicle registration application,

you're agreeing to an adhesion contract that they did not disclose to you.

You're agreeing to a whole bunch of crap

that they never told you you would have to agree to. So when that cop pulls you over on the side of the road, he's already got your consent.

He's already got your contract. He's already got your agreement to do whatever he wants to you. And just Well, I think that would be a really good story to go into

because driving offenses are

ubiquitous. Everybody's had them for all sorts of things. And it's not to go, I think, into an adversarial position with the other side. It's to get really clear about what you would say. As I said, I'm just repeating what Stuart mentioned to me the other day. What is the nature of your action? It's in commerce.

Right. And so

this thing about Yeah and I know this is Roger's work about getting your status correct so that you're not in commerce or whatever the situation

demands at that time so that you retain honour.

You don't go into dishonour and they would and if they don't answer your questions they are going into it. And it's I think it's going to be fascinating but I'm going to have to I want to talk to Stewart a few more times to see if we can pare it down almost like into little chunks. I'm serious because if you've seen a lot of this free man on the land stuff as well, it's it's very long.

It's bunk. And and people people get lost in the whole thing. You know? Yeah. They're all But they completely ignore it. They completely ignore it because there is no statute, act, or code that recognizes

the sovereignty of a free man on the land.

There is, however,

federal,

statutes

that recognize

a national

of The United States Of America.

It is a political status that is recognized

by them. But just getting back to the DMV and the motor vehicle, do you know how they get you in interstate commerce?

Because the only thing they can regulate is commerce, interstate commerce.

Well, if you're a fourteenth amendment citizen, that means

that you are a citizen of the District of Columbia and the federal United States government.

Now if you are operating a motor vehicle

that is registered by the DMV, you are engaging in interstate commerce

just by going down

the road to get a loaf of bread because you

are

property of the federal government,

and you are operating a vehicle and transporting

yourself

as someone else's property,

and that is how the state gets you in interstate commerce.

You

Isn't this going to be fun putting this into little cartoons?

Yeah. Little little bitty snippets.

Little bitty snippets. Hey, everybody.

Hey. Oh, hi, Patrick. I was just about to introduce you. Welcome to the show, everybody. Patrick is here. Hi, Patrick. How are you doing? Happy days you're here again. Not too bad. Not too bad.

Yeah.

Yeah. No. I was I was listening to y'all. It was pretty good.

I think I think that,

I don't know what to think about

about, what you're talking about. You're talking about pilots getting eaten? What was that all about?

Yeah. We were talking about eating we're we're talking about that was in hour one, I think. We were talking about the Argentinian rugby tree team that crashed into the Andes

in nineteen

seventy something or other. '72.

And that's when it was. And they were stranded there for ten weeks,

seventy days in sub zero temperatures,

and they ran out of food.

And so the pilot,

they ate some of the pilot to keep themselves alive. And out of the party of 45, about 25

succumbed to the conditions, and

19 or 20 of them survived and got out. And and and then Paul was talking about the Donner party? Yes. The Donner party. Don't you remember The Shining?

Uh-huh. Where where Jack Nicholson looks at it at his wife and child and talks about the Donner Party?

Uh-huh. Getting lost up in Colorado?

Yeah. Let's see.

The Donner Party. But did they have driving licenses? That's what I wanna know.

Yes. Right. Exactly. Yes. They did. The Donner Party. Covered wagons.

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. The Donner Party was a group of American pioneers who became snowbound

in the Sierra Nevada Mountains during the 1846

to 1847.

While traveling to California, their harrowing experience marked by starvation and ultimately cannibalism

has become a cautionary tale in American history.

Yep.

Right. Let's see. I I just wonder how much of that is going on in Gaza right now.

I don't know. Out of the eighty seven people

out of the 87

people who began the journey from Illinois to California,

forty died during the winter

because they got a late start.

And as soon as they hit that mountain Pass, the storms came, and they were snowed in.

They started by eating their animals,

and then they started and then they ate the animal hides,

and then they ate whatever was left. And I'm not gonna go into that any further. I think Yeah. Well, it's it's kinda like the early American savages here

when we had, you know, in America

I'm reading a book at the moment about

the first,

Catholic martyr in North America,

and it was a Jesuit priest from France who came and lived

near Montreal and then went down south into,

like, Lake George, Lake Champlain, New York area

and got captured by a hero or

well, he he went amongst the Huron Indians and then the Mohawk Iroquois. They were all Algonquin type Indians.

But what they used to do with the prisoners of war

was they would torture them. They'd cut their fingers off and make them eat their fingers.

And then they would,

just like brutalize them, cut them, and then roast them over fires, like drag them over fires and then eat them. And that was their way of of getting revenge with people. Yeah. Well, you think of like we have powwows where they do the Indian drumming.

That's that's to, block out the screams

of the people that they were torturing.

I am so glad the third hour of this show has turned to such a delightful topic.

Well, it's also like Yeah. There's lots of noble savage for you. Yeah. Marvelous.

Yeah. Time.

So toasting grandma would be a totally different sort of Literally. Meaning. Yes. Literally toasting grandma. Yes. They wouldn't do

that to women and children, even though the women and children would take part in the torturing of people.

And that was part of the

whole thing.

Yeah, the women and children were brutal. They they would go in and tear people's limbs off, and it's nuts. That they're not cool. Yeah. That must be the very biggest

story. Do you remember that little story I told about Yeah.

1,600 and odd at Jamestown

Yeah. Where

they they arrive

very quickly. They'd been three and a half months traveling across the Atlantic. They're pulling in. They're overjoyed to get to dry land. As they're coming down the tributary or whatever it's like, there's a canoe comes out of one side with these squaws and children in it with a look of terror on their face paddling like mad and then about thirty seconds later there's these white guys going even quicker and they all get completely anxious.

The chase runs across the front of the boat, the prow goes right across. They all then switch to the other side and look at it at which point the white guys catch up with the scores and the and the children they kill them all. They drown them in the water

and much to the absolute disgust of all the passengers that had arrived.

But when they got to the quayside,

the captain goes up and wants to remonstrate with the leader of this canoe gang, as it were,

who's with the harbour master, and he explains to him what happened, which is exactly

what you're talking about.

The man's one of their party who had been tortured, had his skin pulled off, and he was still alive. Yep. They peeled his skin off down. There was nothing. They just went crazy.

And,

you know, but noble savages, everybody. Don't worry. We're all the same, and we're all gonna get on. Well, that that's just it though. You know, the the the the Jesuits came in and what they would do is they would baptize them and catechize them and civilize them.

Because and they they were receptive eventually, you know. They they had to deal with a lot of the

the the savagery,

throughout time, of course. But gradually,

that went away

as time went on and it

they abandoned it. I mean, they don't do it to this day.

They still keep their traditions and the ones that are fairly harmless and innocuous.

But that's the way they used to be.

And it's not like it was anything new either because you look in the Bible about Moloch

and it talks about how the

Israelites

would stray and start worshiping

Moloch,

sacrificing their children.

And it was the same type of thing. They would sit and they'd drum really heavy because you'd have to hear the children cry.

And in order to drown that out, that's why they'd have those big drums

to to drown it out so the father wouldn't

get all riled up. Yep. Those children.

Yeah. It's bad. It's all bad stuff.

Richard Harris' film was A Man Called Horse. What a load of old rubbish.

Because

I noticed what they're doing now.

They're kind of making it look as if the Indians were such nice people,

all full of love and peace. And if you go to a place called Glastonbury

in, England,

they've got all these was it dream catchers

and what it looks like someone's

just shot a pigeon and just sort of plucked it and shoved a load of feathers yeah it looks like a spider web type thing that's right yeah one and they sell them to the gullible people for a lots of money

they have gong baths and things like that

which I got invited to once and I've never been so bored not in my life

can't fucking hold do a sort of counterpoint to that the fucking whole gong bath

A gong bath. A clash of cultures.

A clash of cultures. This would be cool. I'd quite enjoy that. That'd be a lot of fun.

Well, it it was in a dark room, but I was going to go with that. Fart catcher, Eric. That's what you

There we go. That air nerve.

That's what you want. It's all this it's all this piffle. It's all this bullshit. It's like, what was that mind about wolves that they had? What was that all? Dancing with Wolves. Dancing with Wolves. Dancing with Wolves. You know,

if that man had walked anywhere near the Indian camp, it'd be dead. That's it. Full stop. End of. Walks in and makes peace with a lot of load of old cobblers.

Absolute I think the the revenant, which was out recently, is a little bit more true to life.

Really? Really? I've seen that. Probably a little bit more. And if we're talking about really great westerns, even though there aren't any Indians, oh, there might be a few Indians in this. I don't know. There's two things that spring to mind. One is a fantastic TV series,

called Lonesome Dove which starred Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones.

American series in the eighties. Yep. It's absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best things Robert Duvall's ever been in, but if you find a copy you've got to get used to the fact that the picture's square because it's for it's before the the the broad wing TVs came out. Yeah. The Academy Aperture, they call it. Yeah. It's four by three or something like that or whatever it is, and it's but it's absolutely brilliant.

It's it's so it's very long, and it's about a Texas cattle ranch that's suffering from drought for two years and they lose so they decide to take them 3,000 miles up to wherever it is, a long way. I can't remember exactly which state they're going to, but from Texas it's all going to be a long way if they're headed north.

And it's their,

what they live through together. And it's really it's a fantastic fantastic

story. It's just a great story. It happens to be about cowboys, but it's a wonderful story. Absolutely brilliant. And the other one I would mention, the other cowboy thing that leaps out recently is,

The Adventures of Buster Scruggs by the Coen brothers.

Have you seen it? I've seen bits I've seen bits of it. It's a load of old Corbus, but it's funny.

Oh, well, it is. But there's one of them yeah. The first one, the opening one, is meant to be a pastiche in a way, and it's very witty and funny, and I liked it a lot. I like all but it's basically four short stories.

There's one in there about a cattle trail,

that's quite brilliant about and they confront Indians in a way that's so spare you feel as though you it's like it there's no music, there's nothing, there's just a guy with a rifle and there's about 15 guys Indians on horses coming at him and he's trying to protect a woman. It's quite it's wonderful storytelling. It's really excellent stuff and you really get a feel for what it was like. Yeah, but that's the

way it's the whole coordinate. It's like I'm going yeah, like someone goes I'm just going over this hill. You're going where's he gone? It's like only ten minutes. They get killed because it's all quiet. You can't hear anything. I'm going,

you know, people's guards down. They think that it's all cozy and it's not and they don't hear stuff and I'm

thinking wow it just feels much more like I I think it would have been. There you go. I know we got into cowboys. He's quite educated isn't he, White Buster Scruggs? He's very cool and laid back to sort of

way away at the part.

He did affect the part world. I don't know who is the actor in that. I I don't know, but I haven't seen him before, but he's a very good actor, whoever it is.

Yeah. He's an English bloke. He sounds a bit English. No. He's not. No. He's no. He was also in, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Which is also a pretty Ah. Wonderful film by them,

which I quite like.

Yeah. They're pretty good. Yeah. Even though they ballads. Take the Mickey out of the Ku Klux Klan. The ballad. The ballad. The ballad. The ballad. The ballad. The ballad.

But Yes.

You if you wanna see close to

what it was like, you need to see and I know the Americans don't know this film. Brilliant

as, Carry On, Cowboy.

Yeah.

Filmed, I think, just outside London. It's supposed to be the world where oh, it was was it some someone there was a bloke that was sent to clean up Stodge City,

and,

he goes there, and he they don't realize he's a sanitary engineer, not a sheriff.

He's gonna clean it up.

But,

no. I mean, there's by the way, if anybody wants to call in, I know I say this and I'll just keep saying it. If you wanna call in and you're on the in on Tintinet and want to come in that way, go to paulenglishlive.com

forward /call.

Paulenglishlive.com/call.

That'll bring you through to a little sort of anteroom, a little secondary studio that we have for taking calls or you can call the phone number and the phone number is

running on the screen right now. So there's a US number and a UK number if you want to call phone numbers. It's running on the screen. So I won't read it. I thought it was a bit double but I'm just letting you know we're here for another thirty five minutes or so and if you've got any comments or you want to just bend the conversation a particular way, we're quite open to that. You're in the pub so you can chip in and have your time, Penethworth.

Yeah. Yeah.

But aunt Sally just said, Fockham Hall fart catcher.

When my children were young, they used to fart into what charming children.

Into sandwich bags,

tie them up quick, and then burst a bit into each other's faces.

Who taught them that, Sally? Who taught them that? Yes. What what? Hello, children. It's probably at school. Do they go to a progressive school?

Today, we're going to learn how to fart into a bag.

I read the children. Sir, my mom's told me how to do this. Can I show the rest of the class? Yeah.

What's going what's going on? Well, at least they're not teaching them to pull people's fingernails out and that kind of stuff, torture them. Yes. It's a little bit more amusing, frankly. Joyce Grenfell, I think, is the best school teacher.

Anyway, she said, today, children, we're going to all be pretty flowers. No, tummy. You can't be a cauliflower.

But,

yes, Joyce Grenfell. You're probably I guess you've never heard of of the pond. I guess you never heard of Joyce Grenfell. No. Who's she? She was in the nineteen fifties, and she stuck in the nineteen fifties. She lived until,

I don't know,

about four years ago. But she was a woman that used to do sort of one woman talks,

and she's very, very funny. She's very funny, but very fifties humor. That was a era sort of thing. Very posh British lady. She came across this slightly eccentric.

She created a sort of stage persona for herself that was very

it's very gentle, sort of witty

observations about people's odd and queer behavior and stuff. It's very much like Yeah. The sort of lady that would have gone round to the vicarage

for more more scones and tea vicar.

More tea vicar, that kind of thing. And it's very polite and she's yes. And all that kind of stuff. It's a bit like So it probably wouldn't travel across the Atlantic that well. I think it's very

it's the sort of England we want to get back, Eric, isn't it? Well, the one that on the BBC, which is a very, very famous one, they used to have a vicar. I think you've heard this one before, Paul. You know, they used to have a vicar

and some elderly ladies on there doing a a posh gardening program, and they used to be very, very

sort of posh. And before the Yeah. They went on air, the vicar had actually impaled his finger on with rose thorn.

And this is the exact words. I think you know what's coming.

And she said,

hey. Hello, Vika. I says, hello. How's your prick thing, Vika?

Oh, it's still throbbing.

And the working class people the posh people didn't see any anything funny in it. Working class were off their seat with laughter.

And, that was on the BBC. It's all frightfully posh, you know.

And that actually went on air, live on air.

That sounds like the sausage joke that the cheeky chappy would have would have told, isn't it? Yes. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely.

Max Miller. That sounds like a Max Miller type joke. Yeah. It is a funny story. It is a funny story. Hey, miss. There's a man in a mood. Can you imagine that lady? Can you imagine that? That's his patter, wasn't it?

And did you know that Max Miller told,

oh, he gave he was a chap now.

There was a famous comedian. He died not long ago. He gave him a master class on how to do comedy.

And it was Bob Munkhouse.

Bob Munkhouse was rubbish when he started, and Max Miller was watching him in the wings.

And afterward, he came off the stair off the stage, and I don't let anybody clap.

He he gave him a half an hour master class on how to do comedy. And he said, don't hit the punch line. Let people's imagination hit the punch line. And,

it is because he never did hit the punch line. And he was and he used to move on to another another one. You know, he said, I came home last night as a man in the nude,

in my house. Can you imagine that, lady? Can you imagine that? I said to my wife, what's he doing here? She said, oh, he's a nudist. He's come to make make a telephone call.

Oh, no. A very good fight. Yeah. I mean, he's an old one.

And to think I actually had a joke earlier tonight, and I self censored because I didn't think we were going there.

Because you're polite and you're a man of honor. That's why, Paul. You're you've got good manners, and this is what we like. We I like the gum powder one. Well, that's a brilliant one, the gum powder one.

I can I can okay? I can probably tame this down a little bit.

Is

a a man husband and wife, they're they're talking it's about breakfast time, and the wife is saying, would you like would you like some eggs, some bacon and eggs, maybe some perhaps some, pancakes and sausages,

and coffee, something like that. And the man says, well, you know what? It's I mean, it's this Viagra. It's

it's just interfering with my hunger. I mean, I I really have no interest in eating. She says, alright. So and then it comes to lunchtime. And she says, well, would you like soup and a sandwich?

It's about lunchtime. I could make you a soup and a sandwich or or perhaps whatever else you would want. And he said, well, you know, it's now I'm I'm really not that hungry. I'm really not not in the mood to eat anything. I'm, it's just Viagra. It's just

interfering with my with my hunger,

with my appetite.

And then it gets a long dinner, and she says, darling, how would you like a nice thick rib of steak, maybe perhaps a potato,

a nice cold beer, something like that. Wouldn't you like something for dinner? And he says, well, I'm really

I'm really

this is my aggregate. It's really taken my appetite completely away.

And to this, she says, well, would you do me a favor, love? Would you get off of me? Because I'm bloody

starving.

I had something

ancient to mention it from the, the council of York in 1311.

I bet you're all keen to guess. But this is just me hopping I would just want you to know how they dealt with usurers back in York,

although it was the whole of England in 1311.

Now this is not too long, but this is but it gives you an indication of the clarity that they had that we've lost about how to deal with this. Let's do less. If anyone falls into the error

of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury,

we decree that he be punished as a heretic. And the body of the message goes as follows. It says,

reliable sources inform us that certain communities

in violation of the law both human and divine approve the practice of usury.

By their statutes confirmed by oath, they not only permit the exaction and payment of usury

but deliberately

compel debtors to pay it. They also try by heavy statutory penalties and various other means and threats to prevent recovery by individuals

who demand repayment of interest. For our part, we want to put an end to these abuses and so we decree with the approval of the council

that all civil officials of these communities that is magistrates, rulers, councils, judges, lawyers and other similar officials who in future make, write or draw up statutes of this kind or knowingly decide

that usury may be paid or in case of it having been paid may not be freely and fully restored when its return is demanded

incur the sentence of excommunication.

They shall incur the same sentence if they do not within three months remove such statutes from the books of those communities if they have the power to do so or if they presume in any way to observe the said statutes or customs to the same effect.

Moreover,

since money lenders frequently conclude loan contracts in an occult or fraudulent manner which makes it difficult to convict them on a charge of usury, we decree that they should be forced by ecclesiastical

censure to produce their books on such occasions.

Finally,

if anyone falls into the error of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury,

we decree that he be punished as a heretic and we strictly command the ordinaries of the localities and the inquisitors

to proceed against those suspected of such errors in the same way as they would proceed against those accused publicly

or suspected of heresy. That's from the Council of York in 1311,

and it was during the reign of Edward

the second. I just thought it was a little bit

too much to handle though later on with the church.

Every contract ends up going to the church for for a judgment. That's the problem.

Right.

That that they later came up with. There's a an encyclical

that came out called Vix Pervainet

that talks about usury and how it just got totally out of control, and it was in the, I think, in the seventeen hundreds

that they came out.

Right now, but Yeah. It's right now. But so good old the Longshanks sorted out, didn't he? Because he booted all the users out

for a while. For a while, three hundred years until,

Cromwell reintroduced him. Nice man. I don't think. Yes. Well, it wouldn't have been just them. I think obviously it seems to be a certain sort of mercantile class leans towards it. Although, of course, it became You know, the Kings

over here

basically augmented it

because they became reliant upon the revenues that they would be able to extract

from the Jewish money

lenders that they gave the power to. So the king was basically up to his neck in it as well. It was a terrible sort of good cop bad cop thing And he was using the money basically to fund armies to go off, in our case, and fight with the French for a hundred years,

you know. That's it.

Human nature doesn't change. It's nothing new. It's different form today but the dynamics exactly the same. Someone feels entitled to rob you because of some spurious foul contract that says that you've got to pay them more and then it would have hurt even more.

It would have been I mean I would think the the impact of it would have been

much more readily and easily seen because of the complete lack of credit cards.

The liquid financial space that we now live in which is basically almost an artificial

money system. It's all bogus. Nothing really means much basically. It's all sort of micro controlled in terms of prices

and markets. But back then, people would feel it. They literally wouldn't have enough money. They'd be thrown out and all this kind of stuff. It's terrible to have, mixed Vicks Vicks

Vicks Perfane, it was,

1745.

And this is what it said about usury. The nature of the sin called usury has its proper place and origin in a loan contract.

This financial contract between consenting parties demands by its very nature that one return to another only as much as has been received.

The sin rests in on the fact that sometimes the creditor desires more than he has given.

Therefore, he contends some gain is owed him beyond

that which he loaned.

But any gain which exceeds the amount he gave is illicit

and usurious.

That's the definition.

Yeah, essentially, I mean Belloc has got a slightly different definition of it,

or at least

a slightly side so he says

that usuries

on any unproductive loan,

which is quite interesting in a way, but I think

Well, if you're in a business partnership, it's a different situation. If you're given money to invest, then, yeah, that's a different situation. But Well, basically, they all should be viewed as partnerships. I mean, basically, but of course, what it ended up was that the money lender was just accounting house and basically, where's the where's the money? I don't care whether you've done whether you've used it well or not, you know. And this caused them, of course, to not be responsible for who they lend it to. They would just then enforce the repayment of it and it became a sort of,

you know, a secondary pressure on people. Now it's just seamlessly institutionalized

everywhere we go

because it's on everything. Everybody's paying usury

indirectly whether they like it or not because we all the prices that go into the interest payments are carried in the goods and services that you buy. That's how the company gets it back.

So the whole thing is just a seething mass of interest on interest on interest. Well, that's a $137,000,000,000,000

debt supposedly on a sheet of paper, but it's been there for control purposes. That's what it says. Always grabs your asset. At the end, it grabs your assets. That's why Mhmm. The World Economic Forum was saying you will owe nothing and be happy because that's what usury is. They're just grab grabbing your assets. It it just gobbles up everything.

It's just like a monster.

Well, the oldest example of usury

and how evil and despicable it is is what did Russia and Germany

have against the Jews?

Why did they hate them so much? For stealing people's houses. And how did they do that? Usurious

loans that could not be repaid

because

they were that way by design.

It's all theft

and heresy.

I like them. I like it being referred to as heresy.

I think it's

long overdue.

Well, it is. It's a heresy. I mean, it Yeah. It's not Christian.

It's just well, it's just against the law, basically.

I mean, if allowed into any space,

it's the virus that chews up all the substance of life. That's why the culture's decaying. Everything, every single thing that we talk about here,

one of the prime drivers or inherent qualities within it is this everything. Oh we could imagine this is why they're always talking about economic growth. Why just get rid of why don't we not talk about that? Get rid of interest on loans,

right? Stop all that nonsense. Sort it out in a different way. We've got these computers, everybody. So the computers have been

used to increase the efficiency of usury whereas in fact they ought to be used to completely remove it totally.

Yeah.

But they've grown so used, I guess, to their role of being master lender, a new master borrower. And what does it say? It's somewhere in Deuteronomy.

They will become,

the lender. You will become the borrower. They will become the head. You will become the tail. You they'll be able to lend to you. You won't be able to lend to them. Hello?

Welcome to living on England in 02/2025,

and probably in large parts of living on America

as well. That's why. Part of it too is that, like, they see other people as subhuman

that they can just use their their, slavery make put them into slavery whenever they want to and and use it for their own advantage.

But Yeah. Is there any truth in the I I heard this week that Putin

has booted out the Rothschilds,

and apparently, it was on RT. I haven't checked it out myself.

I don't know if there's any truth in it, whether it's a,

an Internet,

he has to pay Well, the Rothschilds are how Alaska was lost by the Russians to the Americans.

They had a loan to the for for their war,

you know, for the actually, it was for the the when they got rid of serfdom,

the noblemen and Russian

landowners had to pay

for the serfs that they emancipated.

And in order to do that, they took out loans from the Rothschilds,

and they couldn't pay it back, So as collateral, they put down Alaskan land as the collateral. And when they couldn't pay it back, they ended up having to sell it to

the government of America

in order to pay the Rothschilds back their their loan. I didn't know. What's the what's the main,

city in Alaska?

Anchorage.

There's Anchorage, Kodiak,

Kodiak Island, that's, Fairbanks, Portland. Anchorage. But they got a university at Anchorage. Yeah. So I've got another I've got another anic, a narrative about that, which I'm just it's just coming up on my hard drive. Got it, I think. So I saw this about six or nine months ago. It's to do with

the Alaskan thing, you know. So what did they what did,

America pay for Alaska?

Oh, I don't know. It wasn't very much. You know, some million It's a couple of million dollars. Right? And it was something like 1¢

for ten ten acres. 2¢ 2¢

an acre is what I heard. Okay. So, you know, we won't mind that. Right?

Of course, they probably weren't fully aware of what was gonna lie beneath it or maybe they were, I suppose. Maybe they'd had some clue, but that's not what it's about. The story I heard from a university professor up in, I think, Anchorage, okay, who'd found this in the documents, the local records,

was that

Russian,

fur,

traders had been coming to Alaska to capture whatever animals have got for them. Sorry to be okay.

And they wiped most of them out. It became less and less lucrative as they basically depleted this stock of animals and there was less fur. So they weren't too bothered about it anymore.

And it taps into,

the US war between the states because Yes. The Russians sent the navy into New York, did they not, to support Lincoln.

And there was a debt that was owed to Russia

for that, but they didn't want it to be made public

that that that had happened.

It had to be

disguised. So the wholesale of Alaska

was basically a way for The US to pay the Russians back for the Russian navy coming in and siding with Lincoln

under the guise of buying Alaska because they didn't want it anyway because they got rid of all the animals that they took that they didn't value it. They weren't going to come back anymore. So they said look we'll put this out as a story that's what we do and then we get our $2,000,000 back that yours for the navy coming up fifty years ago whenever it was. When was it sold? 1902 or something wasn't it?

Alaska? Alaska. When was the auction? Late 1800s. The civil war was in the 1860s was the civil war and it would have been That's right. But Alaska, the auction that was about thirty years after that. But that would make sense. That's okay. They can let these things run. So it's a very if you look, I can't remember where it is. It was a YouTube interview, but I think there's also some documents about it. I thought I thought it was fascinating,

and he seemed to have sort of documentary proof that this is basically what had taken place, that it was a disguise sale.

They couldn't care less about Alaska. They had no intention of coming back. So they said, well, you can buy offers because we want our 2 or $3,000,000 back or whatever then the US government ended up paying for it at the time.

So, anyway, it quite appealed to my sense of intrigue, I have to tell you, and it looked pretty good. Yeah. Well, tomorrow, there's supposed to be a big meeting between Putin and Trump,

which hopefully goes well. I don't, you know, as much as it you can say that these type of things can go well, I I hope it ends. I'm

tired of it.

The war between Ukraine and Russia, it's a bloodbath.

What do what what good is going on there whatsoever?

It's all part of the world geopolitical

stage play, isn't it? Yeah.

Yeah. And then and Alaska is a fitting place though, because of the Russian

territory that it used to occupy.

Trump's family, it was his, I think it was his grandfather came into America from Germany.

His actual name is the Trumpledorf

or something like that. It's not Trump.

It was

abbreviated, but then what he did is I think he went up to Alaska

and bought up a lot of, saloons and that sort of thing, property,

gold mines and things.

And that's how

his family actually gained wealth was up in Alaska.

So I'm Mhmm. No doubt they they may even meet on one of his properties if that's the case.

But I hope it goes well because they gotta end that you can't be having that kind of war going on. I mean, it's only a matter of time before they bring it over here.

These things with drones, those things are cheap and you get people doing that sort of thing, promoting it over there. They'll do the same thing over here and they'll have no problem

doing it. I know.

No. It's all hell.

It's

all hell. It needs to ask the manifestation of sort of a disease that's a lot deeper,

isn't it? I just think, you know, it's been, like, a massive disease. Revert to sanctioning, you know, like the sanctions office, it it just becomes a joke. I mean, like, now it's tariffs, and it's just, like, well, we we're we're gonna

sanction everybody we don't like, and then and then it leads to a war, and then you wonder why it led to a war because you get these people who can't talk to each other.

They shut down the embassies, and then they say, well, oh, yeah. They're just the enemy, and we can't have them over here talking to us, because we might come to peace terms. It's like, well, that's what we want.

We don't want this crap. It's what we want, but it's not it's not really what the banks want, is it? It's not what the money power wants.

I mean, I'm not that's not I know simplistic, but I I just tend to think it will answer 99 out of a 100 questions. If the money power want war, it happens. If they don't, it won't. That's it.

Because,

all of these parts and components are manufactured from certain companies all around the world. I'll send them everywhere. They don't care as long as they, you know, their stocks are okay and all this kind of stuff. And it's all interlate interrelated.

All of the interests of other people are interrelated with everybody else.

Fancy a war? Look, we could sort this out. This is literally like that. They're not gonna find it. Their sons and daughters aren't gonna be in it. And, of course, you know,

the peasants

are always

there to be chewed up.

It's,

yeah. It's not just too it's not happy.

I mean, you're not that happy necessarily, but just too too long to Just fat. At least fat.

When the shelves are empty,

supermarket shelves are empty, then they'll do so, but they won't be because what happened in lockdown, you could get high carbohydrate

junk food with ease. The quality

stuff, you couldn't get so easy. And that's what's gonna happen today. Again,

you know, loads of,

carbohydrates,

you know, chemical food. That's what that that'll be plentiful, but real food won't be. And I think that's what we that's what the future holds. And I hope I I hope I'm a 100% wrong.

But, you know Well, you gotta support local farmers, those small farmers that the Yeah. Commies wanna do Listen. That's definitely part of the solution process. I agree with you, Patrick. I think it's all part of that. And Paul mentioned earlier that all politics is local,

and we've got to turn that from a phrase into an actuality. It needs to become that.

People I realize though that the training that you're receiving all the time is undetected by you. You can't help it. It's not possible to deal with all of these things. So since 1945

over here, the rise of convenience living, particularly over the last thirty or forty years,

has changed the way that we live. And even the mob you know, I know I'm coming back to I'm not laying the blame entirely at smartphones, but it really has

changed everything. Oh, yes. Lots of moments.

Yeah. Tons of stuff has just gone missing out of life. Moments of connection that used to exist.

Like I've I go out walking quite a bit. The last two times, I've not taken my phone

and realized that I felt anxious, that I was cross with myself. I want to listen to this and thought give it a break.

Give it a break. Just go and sit still and look at the sun for twenty or five and it's really refreshing but you get so out of the habit of it and, of course, there's no dopamine hit. Oh, no. Of course, you don't think of it in those terms,

but our minds are running quicker. I think generally quicker than they have ever had, but basically on a fuel of, you know sensationalist

crap that keeps pouring through on the interwebs as it were. A lot of it is not particularly constructive and I've got to I'm trying to break myself with all sorts of habits and go I need to get into a more physical way of living again

and out of this electronic space to the degree that I've been in. My excuse back to myself and it's a good one, I think.

Obviously, I would think it's a good one because it's the one I came up to make me feel okay about it is I'm interested in plowing into all this stuff which I think is really what the internet is amazing for and not for all the, you know, the automation of our lives which I'm disinterested in completely.

And what Alice, you know, what you were saying Eric about

getting the communications side

going, I'm thinking holy moly, there's so much to do. There really is. But until it starts, a little bit of it starts to get done, it's difficult for people to see what it is. I do think it's a case of that.

But we've touched on loads of things tonight. Local farmers we need to do deal with that. This means of course, you know, if we get into the county thing we can have county money. Why can't you?

Promote good music. Why couldn't you have county money? I mean, oh,

you can't do that because the world economy. We're not interested in the world economy. We don't need it. Oh, no. We're reliant on all these things. Well, we won't be very soon.

It's this so in other we're thinking about all the wrong things. We're thinking about how to resist them.

It's a bit of a grand statement to say we're thinking about the wrong things. You have to think about the emergencies that are coming down the road, of course, but

such little time is devoted to actually constructing the world that we want to live in. And we only have to look in the recent past to see something was much much closer to it. I'm not saying perfect, but way way better in terms of the structure of daily living. It was much much better than this.

I just saw today, I don't know if you saw it Eric, over here. So it's a level result time that's come through.

All the students get their a levels and apparently more have passed this year. It's the best year ever. Well,

slap my thigh.

I know. It's just amazing and all that kind of stuff. Now let's assume that it's true and I don't know what a level papers are like these days but it'd be very interesting to compare them with those exam papers from 1882

that we were reading out several months ago which was just astonishing, right? Okay. And I include myself and I found a levels tough. I got two or three, I think something like that that I don't know. I don't even know how to change it. Calculator and you know, you got you got AI and stuff to help you. Maybe it does improve it.

Yeah. You have all these levels at your fingertips.

I guess it does. But the thought that struck me as I saw this little clip was,

what do they think these a levels are gonna enable them to do? To be smart in a world

that's being designed to run-in a toilet? It's

What good does it do for a fight or a woman?

What are you talking about? It doesn't exist the way it did even fifteen, twenty years ago. It's going so rapidly. There's somebody saying about AI something like 40% of all websites now are built by AI. By 2026,

it'll be 60. By the end of this decade, it'll be nearly everything's got this artificial feel to it and I'm thinking

it's time to get out of the social networking stuff even though we're using it here to try and draw an audience in because I can't think of anything else better at the moment

and probably get back to things like private podcasts on private servers

with private email discussion lists. Email's brilliant on discussion lists. It's really good. On a sort of county or parish basis and you link them together. I know it sounds so quaint. You're so backward. People are not going to do that. I accept that they won't. They've got used to the convenience of instant connection but it's like people have got gazillions of likes. You go what does that mean? It's just a meaningless load of twaddle but the dopamine hit that comes from it this is why they go crazy. Oh look, I've got 10,000 people that like me. What does that mean? It just means they clicked something.

I'm not trying to put anybody off by the way. What you saw all like these videos on YouTube and rumble so don't forget to share

and like this video everybody that's listening to me. Yeah by the way on the on the same end. Yeah and promote it like mad because you know I can't live without the attention, all that kind of stuff. So, anyway,

yeah. All that kind of gear.

Interesting times. You you were talking about Ozzy Osbourne and the depressing stuff. We need the the happy stuff, you know, happy days are here again. That kind of the dance music that actually makes you want to dance rather than,

shuffle your feet and look down in depression. That, you know, we want the the good stuff.

Yeah. Where we can

prance around the dance floor.

Yep.

Yep. I think we do. Like you said, it's it's just becoming a Eric, well, for that. Eric, you're not doing are you Eric, you're gonna do any prancing? What's going on? I might be prancing around. You never know. Yes.

Twinkle toes, you know, on on the old dance floor. But,

as I say,

it won't look natural. It's not a pretty sight. I can assure you.

Mhmm. I've got it. I as that girl said, it might be looking like I'm doing an impersonation of a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox

and we're just walking into people and walking backwards and walking forwards again. But,

no. It's just,

some people are cut out for dancing. I don't think I am actually.

We're towards the end of the show gentlemen,

which has been a good hundredth show. Quite crazy actually.

I didn't know, all that. We had a lovely start. That was technically an awful lot of fun. I just forgot what all technical mayhem was like but there we go. Anyway, we'll be back, same time next week. Got a guest next week. I think I mentioned it earlier in the show. Thomas Anderson

who was on several months ago,

talking about the bell and things like that.

He'll be back. I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I'm hoping maybe we'll really tunnel into AI. I think it might be worth having a good look at all that kind of stuff and the implications of it. How we avoid it. How we start supporting farms, getting our eggs fresh and all this kind of stuff. So it's almost like being a neo Luddite. I think that's really what I think of myself as. Just a more tactile and involved life where you do get mud under your fingernails, you get a little bit dirty, you have to have a bath and all that kind of stuff you know, so

all that kind of stuff. Anyway,

there we go. Yeah there we go. Fantastic.

So thanks everyone in Rumble and YouTube this evening. Hope you've enjoyed yourselves. It's very warm where I am. I'm actually cooking here. It's really warm evening. Yes, I am.

Yep. I'm going to the Eastbourne

Air Display on Saturday.

I haven't been to an Air Display in about twenty five years. You gonna go up there? So my son said red arrows are gonna be there. It's gonna be apparently a beautiful day. A clear sky forecast, so no low cloud cover. Otherwise, it'd be garbage.

Jets, all that kind of stuff. Go on a plane and then we go.

Spitfire.

Yeah. Go on. Do it. Yeah. Yeah. There's gonna be a spitfire. There'll be a spitfire. That's all that was bothered. That's all we're bothered about. We'll see you all next week everyone. Bye for now. Thanks very much. Thanks Paul. Thanks Patrick. Thank you Eric and thank you good chaps and chapesses in rumble and YouTube chat. We'll see you all next week. Have a cracking week.

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