In this episode of Paul English Live, we delve into the intricate history of banking and financial manipulation, focusing on the Hazard Circular of 1862. This document, issued by English capitalists, aimed to control American labor by manipulating wages through the control of money supply. We explore how the greenback, a debt-free currency introduced by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War, threatened the interests of the banking elite, leading to its eventual suppression. Our discussion highlights the ongoing struggle between public interest and the money power, emphasizing the need for public awareness and education on these financial issues.
Our guest, Eli James, joins us to further dissect the implications of the Hazard Circular and the broader context of financial control. We discuss historical instances of financial manipulation, the role of central banks, and the pervasive influence of the banking system on global politics and economics. The episode underscores the importance of understanding the roots of financial systems and the need for a collective movement towards financial sovereignty, advocating for a system where money serves the people rather than enslaving them.
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[00:01:08] Unknown:
Well, hello, everyone. Good evening, and welcome. Paul English Live episode 92. How about that? 92 on a beautiful, literally, an amazingly beautiful warm British English summer's day. Welcome to the show. And I hope you're all having a lovely time of it here in sunny England or sunny wherever you are. Hour two. We have a guest this week, Eli James will be returning. He was with us about a month ago, three or four weeks back. We're gonna be looking at the Hazard Circular. It just sounds so good. It must be interesting. Right? Well, we're all about to find out. Well hi everyone.
Hope you've all been having a jolly good week of it. I always hope that for everybody of course. I tell you, really difficult to get in front of the microphone this evening or this afternoon depending on where you're listening to me but this evening for me, it's one of those slightly soporific sort of evenings. The air is very warm. There's not a breath of wind. Actually, that's not true. There's a little murmur of wind and, I just finished eating something a couple of hours ago. I thought I need to go and get some fresh air so I went down to the beach. Doesn't that sound grand? And it is grand actually. We've got rather a rocky and pebbly beach where where I live. So during the winter months it's wonderfully bleak and I kind I kind of like the bleakness but today is the complete opposite of bleak. Today is completely crystal clear blue skies, very warm, and lots of people down there splashing about in the water. The the sea was like a mill pond this evening. Early evenings is about 07:00, about an hour ago. I just toodled on down there.
Very very difficult to prize myself off of the beach and get up and come back here to the microphone. Not that I'm not keen to do the show mind but it's just I was suddenly reminded about how marvelous it is sometimes to just lollygag around in the sun, something I've not done for ages. I don't do that sort of thing anyway. We haven't got time, have we, ladies and gentlemen, to be sitting around getting suntanned. Although sometimes it seems like a jolly good thing to do, it really does. And, there were people splashing back in the water. We have a little phenomena here on the beach as well. It's a very sort of well how do you describe it? A very low draw.
The beach is very flat going out quite a way, not as bad as Morecambe Bay where I think it's like a billiard table for miles or something so the tide comes in quickly. But during this at this time of the year the water comes in obviously because there's, you know, there's water in the sea and but it stays around up close and the sun beats down upon it. It's reflected back through the sandy bits and slowly but surely the water warms up and I just know it's warm. I just know it is. First year we came here, oh how long ago is that? Twenty four years ago. So this would be the June 2001, A Space Odyssey.
We had some we we came to here in the June and it was a pretty good summer that year, and we had some friends down almost immediately within the July, and they brought their daughters down and all this that and the other. And we ended up spending a Saturday afternoon down there where literally the water was like bath water. It was that warm, it really was. It was, wonderfully splishy and splashy and all that kind of stuff. So if you're not near a beach and everything you're probably spitting feathers or something. I hardly ever get down there really enough and I felt a bit guilty when I came back. I thought I really do need to make more use of this space, I really do. Anyway, rocking up at some point.
As I said, Eli James is due to be here with us beginning hour two, so we're quite looking forward to that. I hope you've all had chance to download and read The Hazard Circular. There'll be a test later on. I was so intrigued by the document. I think Eli's mentioned it to me many times over the years but I'd never got around to reading it. And of course it's it's not the sort of thing that's at top of everybody's reading list, although it's relatively brief. I think it's only about 20 pages long, something like that. And it does tell a particularly useful and cunning story of how, in The United States during the war between the states, the, the attempts by Abraham Lincoln to pay his troops effectively, and to keep the economy, the economy going, resulted in him issuing a thing called the greenback.
And we'll be talking about this. You may well have heard of it. In fact, I think even to this very day, certainly, this traveled over the Atlantic from The States as well. We've heard dollars called greenbacks and sometimes they're referred to as greenbacks but most people, I suspect, are not aware that the greenback is a wholly different animal to the Federal Reserve note. And of course we're already getting into that detailed stuff that may possibly be causing your eyes to glaze over. I hope not. But the greenback is, in many ways, kind of a parallel to, the Bradbury pound, which many of you will be familiar with. And if you're not, we'll talk a bit about that as well at some point in the future.
Eric should be joining us, but I don't know what's happened to him right now. I had a wonderful conversation with him a little bit earlier in the day. Maybe I tired him out. Actually, it was a very a very long conversation. We were yakking for about, oh, an hour and a half or something this morning, so some tremendous stuff. And I said to him, you know, with all this energy that we've got, and this is probably why I'm so pooped out now and just wanna go lollygag down on the beach, this is not sounding very good, is it? But not particularly if you put side time aside to tune in. Don't worry. I'll park I'll spark up. I've just had a a big blast of something to rev up my system. But I was saying to him that maybe we could get around to doing a UK breakfast show but most of you probably have got proper jobs and things. I mean who tunes into alternative radio and streams in The UK in the morning? Maybe there's a big audience for it. I don't really know.
I'm also joined here at the moment by Paul. Paul, are are you hang on just a minute. Are you here with us, Paul? Are you talking or are you just listening? Of course, I am. Hi. I'm here. Paul Buttons Beena, ladies and gentlemen. You will be familiar with his voice. Paul.
[00:08:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[00:08:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Alright. So this is because Paul's just revealed to me he's got 270 buttons on his screen, which have is not the sort of thing I should have told you, but they all know now, Paul. So it's a bit Oh. The cat's out of the bag, I'm afraid.
[00:08:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, well, alright. I'll I'll just have to deal with it.
[00:08:38] Unknown:
Yeah. How have you been anyway? How's things going with you? No guttering problems. Now is it very it'll be warmer with you than it is with me. Where I'm a wimp over here when it comes to heat. I can't handle it. It's it's a mere 20 degrees now. That's all it is, 20 degrees centigrade, but that's pretty good for here on an evening.
[00:08:56] Unknown:
I I have no idea what the temperature is. All I know is it's hot. It was hot yesterday. It was hot last night when I was trying to sleep. It was hot this morning. It was raining, storming. It was, like, all wet, and the heat just never gave up. So now I still have hot, but now I have the addition of humid. So, we're all good. And it's a good thing that we don't have cameras on because, I didn't bother putting on a shirt when I woke up. I'm telling you. I'm done. But So far from New York, are you? In fact, you're
[00:09:31] Unknown:
I love Oh, really? Good. I'm glad we're not doing video, Cam. We had that distressing site a few weeks ago, actually. It was a bit off putting. Yeah. Well, poor. You're not so far from New York, though, are you? Have we got a bit of lag? We seem to be having a bit of lag here. We got a bit of, we got a bit of the old lag.
[00:09:49] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Alright. I know exactly what it is. Okay. Okay. I'll, it it's that hazard circular. It's locking up my computer. So, I will just have to close that, and then we'll be all good.
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Cool.
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So, honestly, I have too many buttons, and, obviously, some of them are not correct. But oh, well. So, yeah. Can you hear me now?
[00:10:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hang on. I've just I've gotten a little thanks for the message. Yeah. I can, Paul. I can hear you fine. There's obviously a few we're having a few little gremlins. The heat's just hang on a second. We've just lost a couple of things here. It's great. By the way, thanks everybody in Rumble and YouTube who are here for helping me out with all these little things. Let's just see what's happened. Something slightly strange is taking place. Have we got the feedback? Yeah we have. Sorry about that on Soapbox. It looks like we dropped the feed for some reason. Very strange. No real reason to do that. It's normally the most stable part of the operation. Anyway, we're back up and running. If you're tuning in on Soapbox, sorry about that. We had a couple of minutes, maybe a bit longer than a couple of minutes. I've only just seen it. So, thanks very much. We're coming through loud and clear on Rumble and YouTube if you just say yes. I think we should be by now, shouldn't we? We should be.
Should be working fine. Soapbox stream is back. All technical trousers are put on properly the right way around, I think. I think we're okay. I think we're fine. All the signals say that we're fine, so that's cool. Yeah. No. Paul, I was rudely asking. You're not a million miles from New York, are you?
[00:11:28] Unknown:
No. No. Well, it just depends on what New York you're talking about. I am in Upstate New York, but I am about, five and a half hours away from New York City. So
[00:11:41] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. It's Well, I remember my trips my trips to New York.
[00:11:48] Unknown:
Go ahead. No. Go ahead. I'm sorry. We've we've got a delay, and I'm sorting it out here.
[00:11:56] Unknown:
It's a two I way more than we get here. I quite like it when it's humid, but I just get I find my energy gets sapped a little bit. What? Oh. Oh, we're having a gremlins evening. I think we're having a gremlins evening. Let me just have a look. Sorry about gremlins, everybody. They do happen. Let me just check a few things. Yes. Lost you, Paul, if you can hear me. Maybe you wanna leave the oh, yeah. You're back again now. You okay? Yeah. I think the gremlins are me.
[00:12:30] Unknown:
I I tried to, download the Hazard Circular, and loading that page from that link just drove my computer right off a cliff.
[00:12:42] Unknown:
Oh, this is just you mean you didn't download it earlier this afternoon and read it last night and study it all from front to back? It's outrageous.
[00:12:49] Unknown:
No. I just I just heard about it when at preshow when you were talking about it.
[00:12:56] Unknown:
So Alright. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Well, sometimes I, you know, I just I'm sometimes I'm thinking I'm probably belaboring the banking thing too much and then I think not really. Earlier today, I mean, I've, a neighbor of mine popped around and people will know that I talk to everybody about these sorts of things whenever I get a chance. And, about, oh, five or six days ago, probably the back end of last week, around about this time last week, we were just having a chat because, we've got we've got what's turned out to be a community ladder between us. So the neighbour between us, really good chap, has got a a proper ladder and we're doing sort of roofing and guttering and repair work and he's doing a similar sort of thing on the other side.
And, a really nice guy and he he stepped on round and, to bring the ladder back today. I'd had it, then he wanted it back, then he brought it back today, and so he obviously wanted to talk and we ended up talking about forty five minutes. It wasn't just me honest honest girl, honest everybody, although. And, I'd planted a few seeds with him about a week ago, like I'd used the word elodial. There's a word everybody for your dictionary, elodial, as in a lodial title, which I know, Paul, you're very familiar with, a l l o d I a l. And this taps in. It's a bit of an echo of some of the parts of the conversation that we were having last week with Roger with Roger Sales who was here last week.
And, I think I may have mentioned even last week that you can get a low deal title to your property, supposedly, to this day in the Shetland Islands. So lads and lasses, if you're thinking of somewhere to move to that might be on. But, my neighbor didn't know what a low deal title was and I said I don't blame you. I said that you've got to look into all of these things, but it's effectively the title, just by way of reminder for everyone, that you would have if your property is heritable. That means you can leave it in your inheritance without anybody tampering with it. In other words, it's yours. The government, the crown, the sovereign, the king, whoever it may be, whoever is the self appointed assumed authority figure of the day, can he take it off you? And that's how all land used to be, you know, basically dealt with and parceled up here prior to the arrival of William the bastard, William the conqueror, about a thousand years ago, nearly a thousand years ago.
And he wasn't familiar with that and I'd planted a few seeds and stuff like that. So he came around today, brought the ladders back, and we just got talking about things. And I guess maybe many of you out there have had similar conversations, if not about a low deal title, but about some aspect of the great, sort of, con and the fact that we're screwed down in so many different ways. And, I think our conversation today must have been about forty minutes. I probably said that twice, so it's another forty minutes. But, really, it was just good.
He actually took it on board and he was beginning to sort of figure things out as people do once you introduce them to the material. And I I mentioned to him last week, I said, look, it's not that what you know is necessarily incorrect, it may well be very correct. It's just that you're working with an incomplete set of information more than anything else. It's not your fault, and you're in, unfortunately, very good company. Huge numbers of people, the vast majority, aren't aware of the other bodies of information that really would benefit them tremendously, but but would be a disadvantage for those that seek to obviously manipulate and control our lives. And, we were just talking about mortgages as you do, you know, and of course it gets very he got very personal with it, not not against me, but about somebody in his family.
Somebody, I think it's a relation, a young guy relatively young 40. I suppose some people feel that's ancient ancient. I used to think it was ancient when I was about 16. 40? You're kidding me? I'll never make that. But, this guy's in a position where he's had to go back to renting because they can't get a mortgage to buy a property. And, of course, when you even look into that, when you've bought it because you don't have a low deal title, what have you bought? It's just, you bought yourself a nice loan with the with the bank of the usurers courtesy of a mortgage and you're going to end up paying two and a half, three times the amount back. But although this may seem like a pedestrian sort of point to raise again, so deep into the run of the show and I mentioned it so many times, I do it because I have to remind myself over and over and over again that although, you may end up talking to a pretty educated audience about these sorts of things, the vast majority of people are not in that audience and it's really worthwhile planting a few seeds. And, so I was very happy about the conversation actually.
Very. It would it just turned out to be a a very constructive sort of forty minutes. And, I had to sort of break off then because I had something useless to do. I don't know what it was, probably boil an egg or something. But, yeah. No. It's a good chat. Anyway, whilst I've been telling you and regaling you with my, doorstep conversations, we've been joined by mister von Essex. We've been mister mister von Essex, good greetings. Hello. Good evening and welcome to the show. Good evening.
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I I do apologize for being late. I have a note from my parents, and I will do 2,000 lines after the show. Actually, no. I was having a a meeting on another had another call come through, and, I thought you. I've I've, yes. Yes. Well, you know what it's like? Trump was on the phone, and he's, you know, trying to ask advice and all that. And, you know, he he I just thought it's sod off in the end, you know.
[00:18:30] Unknown:
They're such I mean such pests, aren't they? They really They are. Such pests. This
[00:18:35] Unknown:
but, I it really amazes me, though, that,
[00:18:40] Unknown:
what you're saying about those titles and things like that. I mean, you can you said, was it a loadial titles? That's very interesting. A l l, a l l, yeah, o d I a l. I mean, why is that not one of the words that we were taught at school when we were teenagers? A loadial.
[00:18:56] Unknown:
Yeah. And mortgage means death grip.
[00:18:59] Unknown:
Did you know that? It does. Death gamble. A mortgage. I I mentioned this to my neighbor today. I said, do you know what mortgage means? He went, well, it's just a loan, isn't it? I said, well, yeah. I guess it is. But but what it actually means is more, m o r t means death. He went, does it? He said, oh, it does. You see, it's really useful to have these conversations. People can pick it up quick. They're just not part of the conversation yet. This is why expanding the audience base is vital. I said, yeah. I said, mortgage means debt, more means death, engage means gamble.
It's a death gamble. And the reason it was a death gamble, is that if you didn't fulfill it, they'd take your life. And, I may have mentioned here before but yet again another fact worth repeating. I don't know the exact date. I think it's up to the late fourteen hundreds or early fifteen hundreds. If you were caught issuing a mortgage, it would have been before Henry the eighth, I think, because that's when all the slop started. Much of it, there's a big ramp up in stupidity financial wise. If you were caught issuing one, you could be hung, drawn and quartered for it. It was deadly serious. You don't do that sort of thing. And, I'd like to see us get back to that, of course.
[00:20:10] Unknown:
Not of course, many mortgage brokers, of course, would be very worried about that. They don't need to be because we're not gonna be so brutal or horrible about it. But, you know. It'd be good television figures for it. It'd be better than the Olympics, wouldn't it? You know, you could be like an Olympic Stadium. Here they come. Right? And you could actually have, David d of Attenborough doing a kind of voice over. Yes. And now they're putting the they could crucify a few. Yeah. Now they're putting the nows in a certain way to and you have special, you know, BBC experts. And anybody remember James Burke? Who remembers James Burke? Oh, I love James Burke. Yeah. Yes. James Burke. He was fantastic. The the science behind it, you know. Now we're going to hung yes. He's been hung. Here we go. And down he comes, you know. It could a modern twist to it. Yeah. Yeah. I am joking, of course.
I don't know. It's beautiful. I actually think hanging by bungee rope, that would be even more fun over a sewage farm. Now that would be even more funny. You go straight in the sewage and out. Okay. Down again. You've come back to this one a lot. I'm beginning to get a little bit worried, Eric, actually. This one comes up quite frequently. It does. I think it's it's quite a good idea. But, no. Seriously, though, I mean, I went in for a mortgage when I was 20, and it ruined my, my younger days because you had slight slave like hell to to to pay a huge loan, a huge debt. But when you think about it, all the countries in the world, apart from a few, are into this massive financial slavery.
And the powers that be are terrified, absolutely terrified, of people twigging it. So that's why we got so much misdirection going on, so that people don't twig it. And they got very close to twigging it in the nineteen thirties. Yeah. Very close. And that's I know. Is the thing. So
[00:22:03] Unknown:
It's very interesting. I mean, one of the I've got several books all sort of running at the same time, and this kind of feeds into what we'll be covering in a little while, when Eli hopefully joins us, you know, just after the top of this coming hour. One of them, is, a book by Michael Hoffman called I'm gonna muller the title, Usury, the sin that was and now is not, something like that. It's it's a tremendous book, for for nerds like us, for usury nerds. Is there such a thing? Everybody needs to be a usury nerd. It it shows that that basically every single church institution, and, of course, there's all sorts of question marks about those in other departments, But on this in this regard, it was, such a situation that every single one of them forbid usury. They absolutely forbid it. And, he's he's also managed, which is very good, it saves an awful lot of time. He's gone through, scripture and actually pulled out all the clauses and statements that reinforce this.
And, also, here's another interesting thing with the manipulation of words and how people's minds get slowly and subtly adjusted to a crime, basically. So what happened was that the the actual initial crime, which is still stands, is the charging of any money, any money, any amount for the use of money is usury and is forbidden. It actually breaks the laws of God depending it all depends how you feel about that. I understand that some people react badly, some are okay with it, but these are the ground rules. They're also the ground rules of the common law and, usury was massively reinforced or anti usury by King Alfred, who really was great by the way. That's the reason why I call him that, he really was.
And, they just wouldn't allow it. You were, it was very, very bad under Alfred. If you if you were caught practicing usury, there was a series of penalties. The worst, if you were really bad, like a repeat offender, you would be, literally pushed out of the land. You would just go. You'd never be allowed back in. You were deemed a permanent menace to the health of and well-being of the people of your village and of your county or whatever it was. And and this is true. This is absolutely the case. So but what they did was instead of it being that, that it then changed. I can't remember what it is. But in certain documents, it it it got changed so that usury was the charging of excessive amounts. They added this word excessive.
Right? Somebody in fact, it's in the new international version of the Bible. In certain passages, they said for charging excessive usury. No. It's not excessive. It's any. And this is the beginning of the slippery slope into stupidity and ruin. And Calvin, Jean Calvin, he said, and this is part of it, this is all part of this slow deterioration, and I I haven't got a date in my head for Calvin, so any bright spot lobbying, I haven't got time to go and check it out. But he said that a little bit of usury is okay. It isn't.
[00:25:18] Unknown:
It absolutely is not. I agree. Not not even a lit none none of it. Yeah. But what about Edward the first Longshanks? Because he kicked all the usurers out, and we was one of the richest countries in the world for about three hundred years until Oliver Cromwell reinstated usury.
[00:25:36] Unknown:
Good old Oliver, Yep. You know? There's a reason why they dug his corpse there's a reason why they dug his corpse up and stuck it in that cage until his head fell off. I want you to think about that. He'd been Lord Protector. Yeah, right. And, you'd ask the people about and Drogheda about that and people think, oh, I mean I heard someone saying, you know, Cromwell's great. What are you talking about? Of course if you're against Cromwell people think oh you're a Royalist' no the King was up his bum and all. You know because he got carried away with this, prerogative of kings and this royal power and all this kind of stuff. There's nothing in scripture about this stuff.
And I think it's this thing, you give them an inch, a little bit of usury is okay, and they take a mile. And and every single time, this is human apparently, it's human nature. I'm on my doorstep conversation, Eric, today, I think it's probably after I talked to you. It must have been, I think. I just mentioned all this kind of stuff and, of course, it's just getting people used to the idea. He said to me, he said, what? So banks shouldn't make a profit? I said, no. Why should they? He said, well, they're they're sort of in business. I said, well, I don't want them in business then. I don't want them. Why why do I want a business that I could supply myself, have somebody else supplied to me and I have to pay them for a business that I can supply myself? Why do I need that? And, of course, it's literally a discussion and a frame set, a series of terms that people are not familiar with. I'm gonna repeat. They're not people are not stupid.
They've been made, and given a limited world view. We know how they're given this, and it's been moved out. I mean, there should be usury lessons for anybody aged 11 and above. I'd put I'd have it. I'd put it in the curriculum. Nothing gotta be known about. I agree. I agree. I agree with you. But this idea that,
[00:27:24] Unknown:
I mean, you could still have banks, but what their purpose would be was up to them. But if you had a people's bank, that sounds a bit communist, but I'll show you it isn't communist. Be Yeah. And I think it was Gaddafi, the efficacy of the country, got richer. People had money paid into their accounts. So it paid out old age pensions, it paid out loads of things. You didn't need so much in taxes. I'm not sure you needed any taxes because it was the wealth of the country was not frittered away by a one less than 1%. It was given out to the to the people so they could spend more money and make the country even richer and even better. So people are optimistic, not pessimistic as they are now. When you go to any high street in this country and you see a lot of pessimistic people walking around, you could be optimistic.
And if it was like, yeah. We're gonna get Britain better. Why? Look at this. It's working like anything. England's fantastic. Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? Our village is better than the other village because we've got loads of roses and flowers and all we make it look beautiful. That'd be fantastic. I mean, you look around where you live. Now I worked it out. There's 55 houses around where I live. Yeah. If we, paid for our own rubbish collection, paid for someone to sweep the streets, which which we don't no one sweeps the streets. I had a security bloke walking around.
I worked that out that we could do it for a quarter of the cost that we're paying out in well, I don't quite council tax. It's actually a protection racket. A council protection racket. A quarter it cost us very little because the council's taking money under false protectances. That's it. So
[00:29:06] Unknown:
but I mean, every everybody has been inducted into this space, Eric, including us, although we've seen out of it or been fortunate enough to be kicked at some point in our lives or someone's come along and said, no. This is wrong. But, like, these conversations that I have with no normal people who are good people, they're really valuable. They they teach me so much about how should I repackage this so that I can get it across more effectively? How much effort is it gonna take? Like, a lot. Because, you know, I I think I said to him the other week, I said that here's the problem. We we had a conversation, but you if you end up watching TV for a week, you might forget this. Anyway, he didn't. That's why I brought it up today when he came back, which was good. So I must have planted some decent seeds, and I'm going, right. What was the things I said that must have bitten? All that kind of stuff. But people don't know what mortgages are. They don't understand you know, they just assume, well, everybody pays two and a half times the amount back for the money they pay for a house.
Why?
[00:30:08] Unknown:
Why why why?
[00:30:10] Unknown:
How should we do that?
[00:30:12] Unknown:
Should be about the price of a a car, a new car. That should be the price of the and it could be like that. You know? Why why they're so expensive? They should be because, in the sixties, I mean, they came up with this idea well, no. Sorry. After World War two, they came up with this idea of prefabs, which they're now grade two listed, the ones that are left. And they've lasted a long time because there's any due to be last last of the life expectancy of ten years. Right. But it is possible to produce houses that are look really good and really nice and quaint, in a kind of production line way, whether they are they are different. They've got different facades on them than that, and bring the price right down. But the building industry will not allow it.
That's why the building industry, when you look at it, the apart from modern machinery, such as, you know, mixers, cement mixers, and things like that, but the actual construction of prop houses hasn't changed hardly at all for hundreds of years. Mhmm. Since whatland daub, basically, because what we got? Bricks, timber frame, slates on the roof, which are concrete now. Or materials may have changed, and they've got more modern. But the actual making houses
[00:31:27] Unknown:
hasn't changed hardly at all. In fact, we've got back with I don't want you to go into a rage about architecture
[00:31:33] Unknown:
two times in a few days. I'm starting to propped a little bit and then yes. I can propping at the mouth a bit. Yes. Yes. I can feel it here from this end. I'm concerned about your blood pressure.
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Although, I think getting outraged, as we said here, is a common theme. It's funny, you know, if you'd have asked me say ten or fifteen years ago, do you think you're gonna get really, really angry about architecture? I'd probably go, what? No. Good. I've got I've got these things to do. But as it dawns on you just what an abomination most of it is. Anyway, good grief. It's it really is. I mean, you know, the the guy here, they have to move they wanna move. I think they've gotta go and find a bungalow or something. And so he's faced with all that and he's like, he doesn't really wanna move, but I think his wife has to for health reasons or something. She she needs probably a bungalow or something. Nice lady. They're really nice people.
And, there's one here actually up for sale just by the side of us. I don't know what it's going for, but they're going for 2 it's like 550,000. It's just nuts. 7 to where our lives. Yeah. It's nuts. We don't live in a particularly posh place. We live in a nice area. We're very fortunate that we live in a cul de sac, so we have no through traffic or Oh, I do. It's very quiet. Yeah. I do as well. I live in a cul de sac. Do you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Hey. Hands up everybody who lives in a cul de sac. Silly French phrase. Isn't it really? Cul de sac doesn't work well.
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And you used to look at look around the beautiful fields. Paul, where do you live? Where do you live, Paul? I live I live next to a state route that that is connected to a highway, like a block away and a train track Right. Between me and it. I think I know why houses are so expensive.
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And I think it all has to
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do with us. Right? I mean, all of the money, all of the money has a debt associated with it. It has a debt attached to it. Yeah. You've heard Rogers comparison between the silver dollar and the federal reserve note, you know, I mean, they both say $1 but, if you try to ask somebody, okay, now which would you rather have? Would you rather have the silver dollar, or would you rather have the Federal Reserve note? I mean, they both say $1. They they're both the same value. Mhmm. And they say, well, I would like to have the Federal Reserve note. You ask them, Okay, now if these are the same, they both say $1 right?
Why does it take 35 of these Federal Reserve notes to buy one of these coins? So it's not really that the houses are so much more expensive. It's that the money is worth one thirtieth of what it used to be worth. That's the deal. Because there's usury attached to the money we have. That's it. Yeah.
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I mean, basically, every church every church system, let's call them that, on Earth, every single one is not worth the paper it's printed on to mix my metaphors because it's in breach of this fundamental law you don't charge usury. We have a situation where they've, half of them have got their own banks. There's the Vatican Bank, they're actually in the business of being usurers. We've got the same with the Church of England over here, they own $1,520,000,000,000 pounds worth of land which they're renting out to their congregation, to theirs. They own the congregation now, do they? This this is the stuff which never gets talked about and it's the only stuff that's worth talking about, isn't it? It's the only stuff worth talking about. We go look you're here trying to tell me to do this, that, and the other and have the sunshine out of my backside, but you're not fit for any of it. It's hypocrisy writ large and they're all, you know, they don't go hungry or suffer or anything. And not that I want anybody to go hungry or suffer. It's not a revenge thing that I'm on. I couldn't care less about that. It's just that if the law is you don't charge usury, my logic goes, well, you're not a church then.
Mhmm. You aren't one. You're just pretending to be one because a church, a gathering of these people, doesn't can't do that. If you start doing it, you're not one. So we need to get you under the Trade's Description Act. You're basically usurers masquerading as a church
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because they are agents.
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Agents of the state. Mhmm.
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They really are. The five zero one c three nonprofit churches in The United States, they're simply agents of the state. They have they have replaced God in the church with the state, with with the government. And, we were talking before the show, we were talking about buttons.
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Right? We were talking about buttons, and I told you that we had Well, you were. You were talking a lot about buttons, but I quite enjoyed it. I quite enjoyed the button chat. Eric, you missed out on that, but Paul was talking about buttons. He's got a lot of buttons, Eric, just to let you know. It's been a lot of You are gonna love this. Yeah. We were talking about Lisa,
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that we have affectionately, nicknamed buttons. And and this is why we love her so much. Okay? Just in the in the beginning of this show, she's made a couple of comments. She said, if they get an inch, they think they're a ruler, and then that's more school number one.
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Oh, Lisa, we like you a lot. Yeah. Go on, Paul. That's good.
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And she just came up with the definition of cul de sac. It literally means bottom of the bag.
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Yes. Does it? Yeah. That's right. It means the bottom of the bag. Me and Eric know our place. We are peasants at the bottom of the bag, aren't we, Eric? That's right. Yes. Yes. We are about the bottom of the bag. Yes. That is why we love Lisa so much.
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Tell me, I'll ask you who's Lisa.
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What? Who's Lisa? Who's Lisa? She's she's listening to the show in the in the, Radio Ranch Conference Room.
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Oh, hello, Lisa.
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Yeah. Yes. It's fantastic. Yeah. Paul you see, what what Paul does, Eric, is he basically harvests this show and distributes it all over the place. Yeah. It's very interesting. I don't mind at all. I think he's wonderful, actually. So there's this secret there's this secret cadre of people of which Lisa is one all getting sloshed while they listen to us or whatever they're up to, drinking coffee, I suppose, middle of the afternoon over there or something. So whatever they're doing. And so we get these comments. But, yeah, I like that, Lisa. Anyway, I'm quite happy that I'm at the bottom of the bottom of the sack. How about you? You okay? I'm quite happy with that. Yes. As long as I don't get the sack, I'll be alright. You know? Yeah. It's just quite good.
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Actually, I did open up bidirectional communication. So, Lisa, if you wanna unmute and just say hello to the guys, you can do that.
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She might have seen that last chance. There she is. Hi, Lisa. Great. Lovely lovely contribution.
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Hi. Nice to hear from you, but that's great. I've tried to make that I've I've tried to make that to you before when I hear you reference. If you give them an inch, they take a mile. It's like, oh, man. Right. No. They they think they're a ruler. That's the true issue.
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I like that. That's a good one, Ace. Yeah. We like that. That's right up our street. Well, right up our cul de sac, actually, to be quite honest. But, yes, it is. That's that's cool. We like that. That's fantastic.
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What part of America are you from, Lisa?
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She's in Ohio. Ohio.
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Oh. Northeast Ohio.
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Very nice too.
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Yeah. Right but right Is it warm in Ohio right now? Is it warm? Like, we always talk weather over here. How warm is it in Ohio at this moment, Lisa? Actually, today is not not too too bad. It's a little humid, but it's only, like, in the mid seventies. We've been having some showers on and off. So Uh-huh. Should we put it right there? It's gonna be up in the nineties.
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It's gonna be 91 tomorrow. I'll fall asleep. Well, here it is in England. Because because cause there's a trouble in in Englandshire or in in was it in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in
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It's very You're ringing your breath all the time. Somebody somebody said, Eric, that your delay was caused because you'd stopped off for a swift half in the Fockem Hall arms. And I thought I wouldn't sleep at night.
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Yes. My secret is out. Oh, dear. They know. Actually, I was talking to, to let on, survival Steve and Nathan. Is he surviving okay in this heat? He's surviving okay. Yes. Yeah. He's, well, no. Actually, he's he's North Of Watford, so I'd need a passport to get there, but they're both in the North Of England, you see. A very foreign country from us southerners, of course. Yeah. Of course.
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Because we don't go past, North Of Watford Gap, do we? That's a far that's foreign Well, you don't. I mean, I I actually do because, of course, I am a transplanted Northerner hanging down here trying to become a I'm not trying to become a Southerner. It'll never happen. It's too, you know No. It can't happen. It's just simply it's not possible. You got your ferrets? Too much. You got you got your ferrets? I have. I've got them actually dancing around my studio table right now as we speak. And every now and again, if I get a bit bored, I put one down my trousers just to sort of put myself up. That soon gets your attention, ladies and gentlemen. Putting a ferret nanny pants. So there you go. And, yeah. Yeah. There's a bit of that.
And, must get a whippet and a flat cap. So Yes. That's right. Apparently, these are these are the accoutrements that one needs. But, but yeah. No I'm I'm fascinated by all this sort of stuff with, with these prescriptions against usury and how I mean let's face it, if these so called churches were any cop, I don't know if I mentioned this last week but I'm going to keep repeating these things they should pick maybe say the first Sunday of every month or one of them first, second, third or fourth because there's usually four, right? There's always four. So they pick one, they say this day across England is usury bashing day. Right? They gotta I mean, why don't they all do it?
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Yes.
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All the sermons should be about that. Now I know we talk about this and we talk about that, but today I need to really bring your attention to something that's chewing up. One of I mean one of the little sort of, images that Hoffman throws up in the book, as the book makes you throw up of course with all the the the sheer hell of all this stuff, this is the thing is to really get the penny the penny to drop, I'm mixing my metaphors intentionally with people, is how ruinous this is. I we can't lay it on thick enough. I mean, it all be almost becomes exhausting because it it can't be seen. But he says, if a whorehouse opened up near you, they'd be outraged. Right? They would.
Yeah. They just would. Right? These things are we don't want this sort of stuff. Right? It's just ridiculous. Yet, basically, banks are whorehouses of money. He doesn't use that phrase. I'm using it. They are. So we're we've I mean, not that there are any branches left anymore. And the people that work in the great I've had I've mentioned here I've had some fantastic chats with bank tellers over the past couple of years, some of whom know about this stuff, but they need a job. I understand that. I'm not saying you've got to sort of you can't work here anymore. They've got to pay the bills, but they're we're all trapped in this cycle, you know?
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Well, some of the people that work for the, well, for the council, the the lower ranks are very, very nice. Even the inland revenue, the lower ranks are very nice. It's when you go up a bit further up up up the up the greasy pole that you get the problems, the snooty ones. But, generally, these poor souls, they they would have probably agree with us, most of them. Yep. But, again, they got, you know, food on the table.
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They do. One of the things, of course, that we mentioned here regularly, is that there's often a shortage of money for things that would do the people of the nation good, but there doesn't ever seem to be a shortage of money that will do them bad. And currently, the big bad thing that they're building up is the idea of going to war. They're banging on about this, aren't they? I've seen headlines like Britain considering, I don't approve. We're not gonna do that. And, I hate this. I hate the way that the news reports it. It's always an assumptive clause as if everybody in Britain is okay then, no one's okay then with this stuff.
And I know when we were talking a bit earlier today, we sort of we didn't really go into it in detail, but and no doubt Paul and others will have a an opinion on this. But this Ukraine Israel situation, because the two are absolutely interlinked, there's no two ways about it, it reeks of the same game plan that was run-in the late thirties to actually for the buildup of war there. It's almost this it's just I mean, it's a slightly different form, but the experience of it is exactly the same. The press are being used to mangle people's brains, to create demons. And you can go and talk to people. Oh, Putin's very bad. And I'll say, how do you know that? Because I read it in a newspaper.
And I say, you shouldn't really read those things, you know, but it's rich. It could be from me. No. This is a big major newspaper. They must know what they're talking about. No. They must not. They must not know what they're talking about. And it's it's icky. I don't even know how to how to address this. People are just throwing around sentences casually. Money's got to be done for this that and the other and the UK government is considering whether it should help the US government. And I wanna just come back to Trump, not really too much to to be quite honest, and I'm not trying to offend our American listeners, but I'm not a fan. And when he got elected, I remember doing some stuff back in January, prior to inauguration day or whenever it was, and everybody was quite buoyant. I said, look. I'm not here to run it. If you're buoyant, good. Be buoyant or whatever. I said, but my my caveat is this, no one has ever got into that position of power just like I've ever really fulfilled any of their promises. Now what's he do what's he up to?
Well, what he's up to is receiving his instructions from his masters, isn't he? I mean, it's absolutely nuts. It's nuts. It's absolutely nuts. And and and, of course, we need the press, which is us, tiny little press, little voice at the back of the room going, you're all barking mad, you stupid fools.
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But, you know, we're not loud enough. We need bigger megaphones down here at this end of the hall. We really do. The big problem is I was talking to Nathan and Steve about this, and that is these Trump worshipers as if, oh, you know, he's our savior. That man pushed the jabs like anything. Yeah. He did.
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Yeah. And turbocharged them. What did he call it? What did he call it? What did Oh, well, we're got them out faster than he. Operation warps. Well, warped mind would be a better one. I think so. Yeah. That's what exactly what you called it. Yeah. However,
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with respect to that, the contract between Pfizer and the federal government, was released, and they did promise that it was safe and effective. And they agreed to provide a vaccine that was safe and effective. They lied. But now No. I'm not I'm not saying that I'm a Trumper. You know, I've I've been on the fence about Trump forever, but I am uncomfortable with his connection with Zionism and his connection with Israel. And I am uncomfortable with him with his lack of stones, and you know what I mean. He is. To stand up against, the actual real controllers.
If he wants to make America great again, he can tell the people that are pulling his strings to bugger off.
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And it's not gonna be But he can't, can he? Because he's got no defense. He's got no defense. I mean, it's, I I like the phrase he's lacking in testicular fortitude. It's a polite way of putting it. He says he's a scones
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and you know what I mean.
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I know. I just need some I just want to say that. Did you like that? I I know. And you're saying also, Paul mentioned what you just said there.
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I don't think you said in Bullock County, you said the Oval Office.
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No. I'm offended, Paul. Oh, I've never heard such language. Good grief. I'm so sorry. Good. Please forgive me. No. It's alright. But, when you said that you're not a Trumper, the first thing that flashed through my mind was that, well, Eric can't say that. And I thought, you know, because we've talked about this word Trump. For our American audience, this is this people, you know, split apart by a common language. Trump over here means to break wind. Yeah. In the in the bossy department. Okay? Well, then then That's what it that's what it means at school. I've trumped. Yeah. Means, oh, who's Trump? Right? Well, it's a polite thought you ought to know. Yeah. So you probably are a Trumper, really. We're all Trumper's here. Yes. Good grief.
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Full of wind. Yeah. Absolutely. Forget anybody who knows me knows that.
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Who was the real last real good who was the last of the real presidents? That's what you really got to ask yourself because I don't think I could name one. No. Lincoln was not the only just a nice guy. Kennedy wasn't that much good.
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Well, he's put up Kennedy? He tried to take a picture of that. That was assassinated, Paul. One of the ones that was assassinated would be the closest ones to being good. Yeah. Well, there was there was Kennedy,
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and he tried to do good things. He was assassinated, but some would say that he never he never was assassinated, that, that, that was a dummy in the car and or a double in the car, and he survived. There's Lincoln, but then as it turns out, Lincoln did some horrible, horrible things. Mhmm. For for and to the South,
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the whole civil war thing
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was just a war to bring in the civil law, which has actually put us down the primrose path to corporate destruction. Yeah. You know what? I don't think I could name a single president that was worth a damn in my lifetime.
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Not one. What's the one what's the one that got assassinated in the early nineteen hundreds over the Federal Reserve? Was he poisoned in a restaurant? Something like that. Who was it? Yeah. You know, he McKinley, was it or something? Yeah. The the the the the good guys how this is a thing that we mentioned here. There are good guys. How can they stay good in a pit of vipers, in a cul de sac of vipers at the bottom of the bag? Right? Well How can you do that?
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Somebody was trying to contribute, and I go ahead, Radio Ranch. Do you have do you have, some somebody, made a suggestion here. Let me see who that was. That was Lisa. Who is who is the last president? Andrew Jackson. There you go. That's him. Yep.
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And I was trying to I was trying to chime in too that I believe every president from The United States that has been assassinated has been going up against the monetary system, whatever the system was at the time.
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Completely agree. Central bank. So it's all been against the bankers.
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I got a little back toward Yep.
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Between 1836 when the bank was killed, in 1911, two years before the Federal Reserve, the US dollar did not lose any value at all.
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No.
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Well It's like, in this country, the price of wheat between, I think it was the Napoleonic wars and the nineteen hundreds, was the same price all the way through. All the time the Victorian threat the Victorian age, price of wheat never changed. That's another. So the price of bread was exactly the same for a 100. So, it just goes to show you what usury does. Yes. But, round in this country, I mean, can you name a prime minister sorry, minister that, that's been much co I can't.
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I don't have any No. It's it's really difficult. I mean, there are some that have been all you could really say is that there may have been a few that were far far less worse than any of the others. So by sort of logical deduction they have to be the best ones but they've never been really good for the people. This thing, this place, you know, succumbed hugely after William the Conqueror seems absolutely bizarre. What are you talking about? It's a thousand years ago, Nelly. Yeah, but it's fundamental. When these when the foundational basis is completely warped to grant power to those people that have already got it at your expense, you're on a hiding to nothing. And if you look at the history of us peasants in England, it it's really been about that. We're in this condition permanently where we have no safeguards. They all say, well, we're gonna change this for you and change that for you. But they come up now, they come up full on against the money power and they're just told what to do. And so, you know, looking to our representatives to sort out the problems strikes me as being logically stupid.
It's not that they may all be bad or hell bent on being evil, but they simply don't have the toolkit either intellectually or spiritually to do it and they certainly don't have the manpower to do it. They're gonna get threatened. The lives of their wives and children are gonna get threatened, and they mean it. They're going to do that. How do you bring that topic up whilst not getting killed as you're saying it? It's literally like that. Well, I I Look at Lloyd George. Why I tend yeah. Look at Lloyd George. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut in there, but No. Cut in. George. He he introduced
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the, Bradbury pound in, 1916, which Yeah. Saved this country from going bankrupt. Correction, 1914 he introduced it. I was wrong there. Sorry. And then 1916 when he became prime minister, he, withdrew it. And the last one was printed in 1927, and nobody knows the reason why. And they there's a theory, but we can't prove it. The bankers took him to one side and said, mister Lloyd George, because you know he actually, put his DNA around a lot. He's a woman womanizer. Mhmm. It would be unfortunate if, that got into the press when you're womanizing. And I think that's what that that's what sealed his fate. And because he did praise mister h for stopping usury. Did you know that?
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I know. And he also is the guy that walked out the Versailles Treaty in 1919 and said, we've just agreed a document here that ensures war in Europe within the next twenty years, and he was bang on.
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So perhaps Lloyd George was may have been the better prime minister?
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He could have been. Who else? He could have been. It's diff it's difficult to say with these things. I mean, that that, way of dealing with that Prime Minister was the same, the same tactic they used against Woodrow Wilson in The States. He'd had an affair with his secretary or something and they just and he was a man other than this weakness that he'd exhibited, You know, they're just not allowed to do it. But the Sunblox, I don't know. I mean, may now he's got really bad because you could say that the latest version of this is the Epstein situation, which is obviously that that same ploy but on steroids. I mean, it's just absolutely off the charts.
And, you know, I know people are speculating whether Trump's name is on this list that that is never ever gonna come out or whatever. It may or may not be. But if it were, would you be surprised? I mean, you know, I never met Jeffrey Epstein. I know my name's not on the list. I never went to an island. I wouldn't have wanted to. I don't know what they're up to. What's up with these people? And, they become it's the old thing power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And so that's who our representatives are. I know we're sort of ploughing the same whole furrow here but, it's it's always worth ploughing. I mean, Eli might have some positive things to say about Abraham Lincoln. He wasn't all bad, but I'm not I'm not fully informed about it. However, I have certain negative views. I mean, he said he did some fantastic things with money, but I think that was, Paul may know this better than me, there was a either a captain or a lieutenant in the US military at the time that came to Lincoln with the idea. He understood it. So that they ended up issuing greenbacks, and we'll talk about this in the second half when Eli gets here, which was to basically service all the payments that were necessary to keep the troops doing their thing, you know, I. E. Killing one another, which the bankers were very happy about as well. They weren't happy about the greenback.
But the parallels with the Bradbury pound are well it's a perfect parallel in many ways. A war gets started, one side's getting depleted of money, so they create debt free, interest free money and it works. And, of course, it occurs to them, oh well, when this war thing's over, why don't we keep on using that? At which point the bankers get their corruption mechanism into place and their bribery and their greed thing, and so many people around the few good men in government succumb to that that the good people in government are basically consumed by the bad. This seems to be a repeated pattern over and over and over again, all the way back to Caesar. And there are all these points up and down the line which are basically just a rerun of the same thing over and over and over again.
So it's almost as if what we actually require is some sort of immortal guard, some sort of, you know, 100 beings that literally anybody starts doing this, you just die instantly. I mean, that would stop it, but I don't know how we're supposed to get it done, but we need some sort of tool like that. I think it's, we're going to have to change the education system because,
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I was reading up about, what's, a woman called, we was talking about this today wasn't we Paul? Charlotte Isabite. And I've Isabite. Yes. Isabite. And in 1934, Carnegie and those jolly nice people, the Rockefeller, corporations. I'll answer that, George. They changed Go away. They they they changed education system for instead of a think based economy to a performance based economy. And that's why, you know, everything is geared around passing exams. Doesn't matter when you know anything, just pass an exam. And, of course, we all know that qualifications can be purchased.
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They can. We're coming to the end of the first hour, Eric. Well, hold those thoughts in mind. Eli will be joining us after the break. We're gonna we're gonna have a little song. I I found out, by the way, everybody. I've got to start taking the songs out of the podcast. So you only you're only probably gonna get to hear them here, because every time they get published I get all these I do understand rightfully these things come back. So you played a song by the Beach Boys and, this is breaking the copyright and therefore we can't publish your podcast on our platform. Spotify is the one that's said it a lot. I don't mind I'm not grumbling, I'm just pointing it out. It's one of these things. And that's just a another way of saying, hey, if you know independent bands and people that want a bit of air airplay, get in touch, will you? Courtesy say of the Telegram group and start. Let's find a way to get these things submitted because I like to play stuff.
Trevor John? Yeah, okay. I'll look him up, we'll do that later on. I'm gonna play a little song now, which is an orchestral piece with a bit of clapping in it because I just heard it today and I quite liked it and it's silly. They'll probably get us on this one too so I might have to pull them out of the recording. You're listening to Paul English Live here on WBN three two four, Radio Soapbox, Rumble, YouTube, and other wonderful platforms, Global Voice Network. We're gonna take a little break. After the break, we'll be joined by Eli James. So here's what's this called? Fiddle faddle. How about that? There's a bit of clapping and shouting in this as well. Only a few minutes long. An orchestral piece. A bit of a change of pace.
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And I could just hear you all clapping along there. That was Fiddle Faddle by Leroy Anderson, a live version, and I found that really rather jolly. I really did find it very jolly. Actually, Keir Starmer when, yeah, when Keir Starmer heard it, this is what he said.
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I I Uh-huh. I I Yeah. I I
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That, if I may say so, was positively jaunty.
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Wasn't it great? It's a happy tune. One of your guys. He's he's one of your guys, Leroy Anderson. I think he wrote Sleigh Ride or something, some other things. You should look him up. Leroy Anderson. Yeah. Just fab that. So that's a live version by the Norwegian Nutcracker Orchestra or something like that. I haven't got it written down but, Fiddle Faddle. There you go. That's the song of the song titles that we want. Wasn't it jolly? I was clapping along. I really was. Anyway, welcome back to hour number two here on Paul English live. And, whilst we're all clapping and jumping around and having a good time, we've been joined by our guest for the evening, Eli James. Good evening, Eli. How are you, on this? Well, fine afternoon for you, I hope?
[01:04:42] Unknown:
I'm sweating to death in hot Arkansas, but I'll I'll live.
[01:04:47] Unknown:
Oh, you win then on the temp we've already done a sort of little temperature thing. Come on. Show off. How hot is it there?
[01:04:53] Unknown:
You're gonna win. Well, it's it's okay. I have to look. Wait a minute. It's 90 something. I don't know what that translates in, but into into British English. Right? It's 90 something. Yeah. Okay.
[01:05:06] Unknown:
Hot. You can't see the the roundabout. 90 is silly. 90 is silly. So we're gonna have to watch out because you're probably gonna get cooked literally during the show, aren't you? We're gonna have to you're gonna turn a different color at that rate. That's just silly. It's like living in an oven, isn't it? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll be I'll be sweating so profusely that my whole circuit board will short out. But we'll do That's conjuring up such a strong image, Eli. It's conjuring up such a nice image.
[01:05:32] Unknown:
Oh, by the way, I heard your comment about, about, you you can't use, miss music from Yeah. A lot of artists, but but all this, you know, Leroy Anderson and classical stuff and, folk folk, songs, that that should be, you know, public domain. You shouldn't have to worry about it that Anderson wrote another piece about I forget what it's called about a typewriter where, a performer Oh, Will Britt. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know that one. The typewriter song is a great one, wasn't it? Oh, that's brilliant. Admit. They were yeah. Right? And they actually had a guy on stage typing a typewriter, and then and then he slings you know, remember typewriters? You sling the barrel back and it and it lit it rings?
Yep. Yeah. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding Is it? I think it is. I believe so. Yeah. I believe so.
[01:06:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Did you know that when when it was first designed, they That's of course, intelligently looked to all the letters that you that occur most freak frequently throughout the use of the English language. And they went whatever it is, e, r's and s's and t's or whatever, you know, the ones that we're likely to think, not x's and v's and w's, they don't occur that often. So they were designed, he designed it, so that the first two or three fingers on each hand could hit the the keys that were most often to be used for speed. And, it was it was a terrible failure because they found Yeah. It was. They thought they thought, oh, people won't be able to do it. Within a matter of hours, they had these high speed digital fingered women. Right?
And they were typing so fast, all the keys got jammed. You know when they used to fly up and you get key jamming because of Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they went, oh, this is no good. So they relayed out the layout of a keyboard to slow it down. And, it's not and to make it less instinctive. Why have you got a QWERTY UALP keyboard for that very reason? Okay. And, of course, it got translated over into PCs, and we all type really slowly now. So there you go.
[01:07:52] Unknown:
There's an interesting bit of rubbish. It's slowing the world down as we speak.
[01:07:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Fair enough. Because we need it to go quicker. It's just not fast enough. Yeah. Right. It's really not fast enough. But, Elo, we have you to thank this evening for pointing our noses in the direction of the Hazard Circular, a very interesting document. And what how long have you been familiar with it? I know you've mentioned it to me on and off over the years and we've discussed it but I did sit down and read it a couple of days ago. Of course, it's in one ear and out the other. Not really. There's some brilliant stuff. Right. Right.
And if Well, it I mean yeah.
[01:08:28] Unknown:
It all has to do with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and the fact that the the greenback was depriving Rothschilds of immense, fortunes in interest payments. Okay? And Yeah. You know, because because the greenback was issued debt free, whereas all bankers' money, whether local bank, international bank, UN, you name it, whatever bank issues the currency, are always gonna charge interest on the, currency that they put out. They're all debt notes. In other words, they're all debt notes, and then you either pay the the debt or the government does. Somebody pays the debt somewhere along the line. And with the greenbacks, the bankers earn 0% interest.
And, they never earned a pennies worth of interest or profit on issuing the currency, which it makes which made it extremely hateful. You talk about hatred. The bankers hated the green absolutely hated it. Yeah. Back to you.
[01:09:32] Unknown:
No. No. Absolutely right. I mean, this document, I'm not gonna read the whole thing. It's 20 pages. Although, it's worth there's a link, by the way. Read it. Everybody should you should at least get a copy even if you don't read it today. It's not a big read. It's 21 pages, and it's worth rereading a few times because it encapsulates the problem that we're facing. And so it also shows you this problem's not new and that there've been very, very many bright people who understood this, have dealt with it, and then the bankers have dealt with them. That's the last bit we've got to get rid of. But the opening of the document starts, it says, the Hazard Circular. By the way, I love them. I remember circulars, and we need to get back into them. It's a great name, isn't it? It says this. This circular was issued in 1862 by English capitalists.
Let's call it capitalists from the city of London, which would be the correct term. Right? I don't I disowned these people. I don't want anything to do with them, but but they were in England, and they probably were some English maesters. The circular was issued in the eighteenth I know. But, you know, these people have been cruel to us. This is not a national thing. Love. There's lots of love.
[01:10:38] Unknown:
Love your banker.
[01:10:39] Unknown:
I know. Well, sometimes, Eric, we we love our bankers, don't we, Eric? We think they're great. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. This very much. Yeah. We love them. We think they're really great. Hi there, Eric. They're cuddly, aren't they?
[01:10:50] Unknown:
They're cuddly. You know what? Anyway We should we should issue a baker's doll, a cuddly baker's doll.
[01:10:58] Unknown:
With pins so it could stick into it. What about that one? A bunker's doll with pins. You know? There you go. I'm waiting for a, Keir Starmer doll with pins. You know? You just just wondering what we're gonna write that. Oh, ow. Oof. You know?
[01:11:13] Unknown:
Well, Keir Starmer doll. Yeah. Yeah. But if you if you stoke pins in him, you know you've you know what he sounds like when you stoke pins in him. This is the noise he makes. There you go. Sorry. It's gonna be played every week that forever until everybody says don't play it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. No. Fantastic. He he always looks like a man with a hole in the pocket, doesn't he? Because there's an old Let me read this opening paragraph, you noisy boogers. Here we go. You ready? Yeah. I know. The hazard circular, it just says this. This circular was issued in 1862 by English capitalists and circulated confidentially among American bankers. 1862.
Right? When did the war between the states start, Eli?
[01:11:57] Unknown:
1860.
[01:11:58] Unknown:
1880? Yeah. 1860.
[01:12:00] Unknown:
April, something like that. 1860. So they've been chugging along for a couple of years and this got circulated. After it is carefully read, no one need be at a loss to solve the mystery of the finance legislation which has followed or whose interest Congress in all these years has been laboring to forward. And by the way American people it's not yours and of course many people will know this. And there's a little forward here from a Mr Sealey, s e l e y, of London and it's on the front of the document. This is worth reading. The commerce of the country, the country he's referring to, of course, is The United States. The com excuse me. The commerce of the country is now in the power of the Bank of England as it was before in the legislature.
For legislative enactment, we have substituted the decision of the bank parlor. For a responsible government, we have substituted an irresponsible body composed of 24 directors and a governor and deputy governor. To these, we have confided the commerce of this mighty empire. Instead of a mercantile system supported by merchants and manufacturers and agricultural interests, we have now the monetary system endangering the welfare of make merchants, manufacturers and agricultural insets interests for the benefit of the fund holding classes, I. E. The money power.
Mister Seeley of London. Anyway, so that's how the document starts and it's worth it. It's worth a read. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Well, did you did you quote the actual circular? I didn't No. I just that's just the introduction. The circular is very short, so we'll read it. Yeah. Okay? It's very, very short. It's actually just a few paragraphs. Here we go. The infernal document. It says this, slavery slavery is likely to be abolished by the war power and chattel slavery destroyed. This I and my European friends are in favor of for slavery is but the owning of is is but the owning of labor and carries with it the care for the laborer. While the European plan, led on by England, I. E. The City Of London, is capital control of labor by controlling wages.
This can be done by controlling the money. The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war must be used as a measure to control the volume of money. To accomplish this, the bonds, this is the key bit, the bonds must be used as a banking basis, I. E. The debt. Government debt is bonds. Right? We are now waiting to get the Secretary of the Treasury to make this recommendation to Congress. It will not do to allow the greenback, as it is called, to circulate as money any length of time for we cannot control that. That's the gist of it. That's the gist. Okay.
[01:14:57] Unknown:
Yeah? Yeah. So who's who's we?
[01:15:01] Unknown:
Right? What wait. It's all English. Who's we? Me and Eric benefit colossally, don't we, Eric, from the banking system? Yes. Us peasants always have. Yeah. So dirty English.
[01:15:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Amen. Amen. Well, the the origin of the Civil War actually, it goes way back to the the end of the War of eighteen twelve. And Right. Be because the Americans beat the the British military and the Bank of England, primarily the Bank of England twice in the during the American Revolution and during the War of eighteen twelve. And the British bankers, I should say, the, Bank of England realized that they had to do something to stir up a civil war to, stir up the American people to fight one against one another. And slavery was the most, you know, likely business because the South owned slaves and the North didn't.
So they hired a bunch of agitators to go into the North and agitate against slavery and a bunch of agitators to go into the South to agitate for slavery, and they stirred up trouble until '18, you know, '60, 1859, etcetera, etcetera. Yep. Until the two sides would go to war with one another. So that whole war was pre a a prelude to the Hazard Circular and the plan that the Rothschilds had to take over our country's monetary system once and for all. Okay? Yes. So that's what the civil war was all about. It wasn't about anything else. No matter what you hear in the history books, this is what the civil war was about. It was staged by the Rothschilds for the purpose of destroying and taking control of our economy.
[01:16:50] Unknown:
Yes. It was. Okay. As all wars have been. The English civil war, all of these things are all to do with the transfer of power over to the banking class. All of them. Practically every war you can think. Even Napoleon is also the same Napoleon was fighting against the same forces. People go, oh, he's a bad guy. No. No. No. No. People people are not aware of all this kind of stuff. He's he's fighting against all these alliances, all of them paid off and paid for by the Rothschilds. All of them. Yeah.
[01:17:17] Unknown:
So so you have to ask the quest so you have to ask the question. Is there an honest, true history book that is, promoted by the New York Times bestseller list? It's And any other bestseller. Not unlikely. It's unlikely.
[01:17:34] Unknown:
It's unlikely. It is. Right. So this I mean, this book Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. This book is brilliant. Yeah. Well, this little chapter this little paragraph's worth reading now just as you're saying it. It says the pirates plot, change Alley and Wall Street conspire to rob American labor. The hazard circular analyzed in the light of subsequent events, the new system of slavery for the toiling millions of the new world. And when you start looking at the numbers further on in the in the document, you'll see just how devastating this is. Trillions. It's just off the charts. Yeah. And it's why everybody's still stuck with this stuff. The opening paragraph then says about the middle of the present century.
So this came out late eighteen hundreds, this document. About the middle of the present century, sir John Lubbock, good guy by the way, of England declared that there is likely to be an effort made by the capital class to fasten upon the world a rule through their wealth, and by means of reduced wages, place the masses upon a footing more degrading and dependent than has ever been known in history. The spirit of money worshipers slavery? Worse than slavery. Yeah. We're slaves. Yeah. Yeah. We're yeah. We are. It's worse. The spirit of money worshipers seems to be rapidly developing in this direction. Lubbock was a brilliant guy, by the way. It's easy to go to service. He must have been a bad guy. No. He was brilliant. He he did a lot of good things. In fact, we were talking about bank holidays.
He actually instituted bank holidays. He was a banker. Right? He was born into a banking family, and so he understood what was going on. Yeah. There have been honorable banks but they've always been fighting against this tidal wave of corruption. They've tried to be as honorable as they could, although they were useless which is very very bad as we were talking about the first hour. But yeah, and it says this, in the summer of eighteen sixty two the money pirates of of London, the city of London I'm adding, saw an opportunity to extend their infernal slave system to American labor and accordingly embodied their scheme in a confidential circular and commissioned one hazard, a London banker, to propagate it among American bankers with a view of having the finance legislation of Congress pave the way for its final adoption as the settled policy of the nation.
How nearly the English plot has been carried out, let the subsequent record demonstrate and it does. I'll I'll hop in and out of it as we go. But but basically the enslavement systems that they'd applied to the English, they now sought to apply to you. That's basically
[01:20:04] Unknown:
in a nutshell. That's right. That's right. And and they had to basically dismantle the US constitution because the constitution states very clearly that Congress is supposed to regulate coin and regulate the the money supply, not any stinking bankers. Okay? Mhmm. So and and the so the Federal Reserve Act was passed in total defiance of that clause of the US constitution. So I think I don't know. Probably, the US constitution is the only document that has such a clause, the governmental document that has such a clause that the government should issue the currency. I don't know if you have the a similar law in in Britain or any other country has. There's basically, just leave it to the bankers and there you go.
[01:20:49] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. I think we may have had, but we're talking probably under Alfred the Great or certainly prior to the arrival of William the Conqueror. I mean and this line goes it does this line of corruption goes all the way back to William the Conqueror because that was the infection that we received here and it it then mutated, was fought back, suppressed. The whole history of the English is of one of being suppressed by this governing force, and it's been in place ever since. It's why we had the Peasants Revolt in 1381. People, you know, there's a great line from a poem about it. It said, well, people people were were taxed to death simply for being alive.
It's such a
[01:21:29] Unknown:
that's really it. That's a privilege.
[01:21:32] Unknown:
It is. It is. It is. They were taxed to death. And we talk obviously today about the the rise in in food prices over here. Back then, I've mentioned this before, the guys that owned all the peasants, the serfs, back in 1381, They used to share information with one another about diet diet for their workers. And they worked out to spend the least amount of money and give them the least amount of vitamins necessary to keep their costs down to get the maximum amount of work out of them. That's basically like looking after a herd of cattle. Right. There's it's exactly the same. There's no difference. There's no and that slave mentality up there.
[01:22:11] Unknown:
You can see that the slaves in the South were treated much better. Much better. Just despite all the propaganda you hear about, you know, bull whips cracking and all that kind of stuff. The fact is when the Northern Army invaded the South, they found that the blacks on the on the plantation were very well fed. In fact, they were better fed than the, wives of the plantation owners who were basically scrimping and saving to keep the the slaves well fed. The idea that slavery was this awful, awful, awful institution, you have to go back to Africa and find out that blacks enslave one another and don't Yeah. And don't treat them very well either.
Right. Okay. Right. No. You have to understand that chattel slavery in the South, the since they own these slaves, they had to treat them well because it's a huge investment. You know, like, $600 per slave in those days is probably, like, $30,000 today or more. Right? Yeah. They're they're not gonna mistreat a slave. I'm gonna say absolutely have to, you know, get them to work, and it won't work. And Yeah. You know, so that's a huge investment. Absolutely huge. So the idea that the slave owners were brutal to the slaves is false. It's simply false.
[01:23:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree with you. I mean, there's obviously gonna be isolated incidents of it and that they are then picked upon and exaggerated to out of all proportion to create a new perception. They're spun into the narrative that they want to fit. I mean, I came across some I can't remember the name. There was, of course, you mentioned African slavery just then and, this is the big one that we've been hit with over the head for the last five or six years and George Floyd and all this other sort of garbage that goes on. Unfortunately, most of our kith and kin are clueless and this stuff strikes home at them and they get all concerned about it. I understand why they do, but that's because they've got no knowledge defense against it. There was an African when, Whitey was out there doing the colonial bit in Africa, there was an African king, I've forgotten his name, who was extremely unpleasant. And he they say, oh, well, you killed loads of black people nowhere near as much as this African guy. I've forgotten his name. Right? Him and his zoo Jesse Jackson.
Jesse Jackson. Maybe his great great great granddad or something. Yeah. He's got He killed over a period of about twelve years, waging more another he killed over 2,000,000 Africans. And these Africans were in such fear of him, many of them came and sheltered with the white man. It's the only place where they could actually be safe, but you don't hear about that. They're not gonna make a film about that in Hollywood, are they? No. No. Absolutely not. They're not. No. Yeah.
[01:24:49] Unknown:
Yeah. So the history of slavery again, it's all economics, and, of course, those of us who are savvy know that the, Arabs the Muslims, not so much the Arabs, until they converted to Islam, there wasn't all that much, slavery of white people. But, you know, you probably heard the US Marine Corps song from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli. Well, that was You need to record that. You know? That was great. Yeah. Right. We haven't heard. Yeah. You you you need uncopyrighted music? Alright. So, anyway, so Thomas Jefferson got sick and tired of both the, Jewish slave masters and the Muslim slave masters working together to steal white people from Europe and send them down to Africa and selling them as slaves. This has been going on for centuries, folks. It hasn't stopped yet.
[01:25:48] Unknown:
Nope. Still goes on now. They've been plundering girls from Ukraine and other Eastern European countries for ages. It goes on right now. Yeah. Right now, it's still going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so but, but the the British
[01:26:03] Unknown:
ended slavery as a decoy. I'm talking about just before the civil war. I forget what year it was. But, yeah, but although the British government ended slavery or dealing in slaves, I don't know how many black slaves there were in Britain prior to the civil war. Probably not true. Any? No. Yeah. Probably. They they they must be handfuls. They sent them all here. They sent them all here so for us to be happy with. And, so what they did, however, was all these people who were investing in slavery in Britain were paid, where they're they were paid by the government for whatever those slaves were worth.
So Yeah. It wasn't like they gave up slavery and and, you know, were were squeamish about and got no payment for it. No. They were well come compensated for these slaves. And the reason they did it the reason the real reason they did it was because if we're gonna promote antislavery in the North Of Of America, then we better not have any slaves. Right? Right? Okay? Yeah. You get the reasoning?
[01:27:11] Unknown:
You you get the sly reasoning there. Yeah. I do. Yeah. When did Wilberforce I'm just looking up the date. When did Wilberforce yeah. When did he stop slavery? William Wilberforce, blah blah blah. Yeah. It was before. He was 1759 to 1833. I mean, the British did lose three and a half thousand men at sea stopping all the slave trade. So that were British naval servicemen, obviously, press ganged into the services to stop it, and we did stop it. And, of course, they've made hay from it. So I do think that that is at least one good thing. But, of course, another aspect of the African slave trade, which is not touched upon this is not to exonerate slavers of any hue. Alright? I'm not into the whole thing. It's a madness. But it it was absolutely impossible to establish the African slave trade without tapping into the existing slave culture in Africa because white guys could not go into the interior of Africa. It was physically impossible for them to do it. Nearly 90% of them would catch a disease for which their immune system could not cope and they died. So they had to wait at the dockside and these guys used to go in and march them out and get paid. And I know that on the day that it was cancelled or whatever, Queen Victoria got, or whatever they got some letters when it was actually stopped from only two complaints and they were both from African chiefs.
And one of them, they were saying you can't stop this. One of them was I've got 5,000 slaves sitting on the quayside at wherever it is somewhere in some port in Africa. And if you cancel this, I won't get paid. So I'm gonna have to kick them into the harbor. Literally, that's what he said.
[01:28:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Kinda like, our ports are the Chinese goods aren't being unloaded. Right? So what do we do with them? Throw them in and throw them overboard.
[01:28:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Right? Okay. Seems to be a common a common theme. Yeah. Absolutely. But, yeah, listen, let me read a bit more from this because it just spurs on the next little chunk of conversation. And it sorry, this taps into what you just said. Slave labor was too expensive and imposed too greater responsibility and care upon the owners to satisfy their greed. What then does mister Hazard propose to substitute? The European plan led on by England is capital control of labor by controlling wages. How can a few money mongers who never employ labor control the wages of other men's employees? Simply by controlling the money volume of the nation. The slightest diminution in the volume of the circulating medium depresses prices and wages. The Congressional Monetary Commission in its report, page 55 says, the worst effect of a shrinking volume of money and consequently of falling prices falls upon laborers whom it deprives of employment and consigns to poverty.
This vast poverty stricken army will continue to increase as long as falling prices continue. Mister Hazard and his European friends understood this, for they had abundant experience in enriching themselves and enslaving all English labor, there you go, after abolishing labor ownership through their finance policy after the last great wars. And the great debt, it says, that the capitalists will see to it is made out of the war must be used as a measure to control the volume of money. To accomplish this, the bonds, this is where the bond thing comes in, must be used as a banking basis. In other words, government debt will be used as the basis for underpinning, apparently, the purchasing power of your wonderful notes. You know, obviously, not Federal Reserve notes. You had to wait till 1913 for that glorious institution to be set up. But yeah. Right.
Yeah.
[01:30:49] Unknown:
Yeah. So, basically, bonds are the way in which the bankers buy government securities and then charge interest, to to the government. Okay? Yeah. So the government has to pay pay the interest. And then, of course, the people are taxed to pay that interest. That's simply how that's how that's how simply it works. And, you know, nobody knows. The average American has no idea that they're paying interest. Their tax money is going to pay interest not just to the Federal Reserve, but also to the United Nations. A lot of that money is diverted to the United Nations. So, essentially, the American taxpayer and, of course, British and German, because this system is operative in every single country in the West.
Yeah. The people are paying for their own slavery.
[01:31:39] Unknown:
They are. I mean, Eric, are you familiar with the greenback story? Do you know much about it, or is this kinda new stuff to you? I'm just inquiring, really. All quiet on the Western Front. Yeah. Never mind. Is he still here with us? Yeah. Yeah. He is. Oh, well never mind. I'll, I'll carry on. This this little bit anyway, he said this was the fall of eighteen sixty two when the greenbacks were becoming more and more popular. Now the greenback is this currency well, money that was introduced, as I mentioned earlier, by Lincoln to get everybody paid, but it was introduced as a non interest bearing, non debt currency.
[01:32:18] Unknown:
No. You can't have that.
[01:32:19] Unknown:
You can't have that. But, Eli, that's what I want. I want every year, I write to Santa Claus, and he says, what do you want for Christmas? I go, I want to have a non interest bearing, debt free currency for the people of England and the rest of the world if they want it, but I want it here in the army. You're asking you're you're asking for too much. It'll never happen. Maybe I could write to the Rothschild. Baker. Maybe I could write to the Rothschild. Will you just stop all this nonsense? Yeah. Absolutely. But this is interesting. It says and it says, so the greenbacks were becoming more and more popular with the army and with the people and which under the efforts of secretary Chase, that's Salmon P Chase, isn't it? Is that the guy? I think it is.
Were rapidly displacing bank currency which the secretary recommended be taxed out of use. How about that? Get rid of bank currency. We don't want any of that. Oh, oh, yeah. I like that. I like that too. See? I know. Can we make it happen everybody? Now you see Yeah. Let's make it happen. Over here I've got the I've got the political party that does not exist but that you wish did exist once you've heard what it has to say. One of the things that it will say is that we will furnish you with non interest bearing, non debt money in a bank that you own directly as Englishmen and Scotsmen and Welshmen. And you should have one in America too. You need you need to have your own bank, don't you? It says so so Chase is is good here but get this, it says but the money pirates waited to get the secretary to change his mind.
Waited is in is in quotation marks, right? I wonder what happened during this waiting period. This is intriguing. And before congress met in December of that year, that's 1862, mister Chase, well, I never, had turned a financial somersault and came out in his report with a strong recommendation for the passage of the National Banking Act in which he said, the central idea of this measure is the establishment of a sound, of course, a sound uniform currency throughout the country. I know what sort of sound it makes, throughout the country.
Upon the foundation of national credit, that's national debt, making this the settled policy of the country. So who tapped him in the ear? Who kicked him in the shins? Who tried to saw his kneecaps up? What went on? Yeah. What went on? Yeah. Well, who was it,
[01:34:44] Unknown:
the the no. Belmont. August Belmont, who was a Rothschild agent in the North at the time, was the one, twisting Chase's arm. Yeah. Okay. So and and, of course, there were other agents besides Belmont. There are many. By the way, August Belmont the the Belmont stakes are named after this guy. He was a gambler too. Right. But if you could if you could put your own money, you can gamble your heart away. Alright?
[01:35:13] Unknown:
So Now August Yeah. August Belmont was a was an agent of the Rothschilds. Was he not?
[01:35:19] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, he, well, that's not his real name. He was actually living with the Rothschilds in Germany before he came over to America. So he knew the Rothschilds well.
[01:35:33] Unknown:
You mean he changed his name, Eli? That's Yeah. Right.
[01:35:37] Unknown:
Yeah. I forget what his real name is. But, yeah. I mean, yeah, that's how that's how the that's how they do it. Okay? Mhmm. And then pretend to be American even though they can't speak English without a a a charmer ox hunt. Right? So we've had this happening many, many times. German Jews coming to America to change our laws and twist our arms and break our legs, etcetera. Okay. Yep. So Absolutely. So this is something this is something everybody in the world needs to understand that the bankers, through their power to issue currency and that's what Russia the daddy Russia said. Give me the power to issue a nation's currency, and I care not who makes its laws.
Okay? Yes. That's because is if he has the power to print money, which is basically legal inflation, legal counterfeiting, Call it what you want. It's legalized counterfeiting. They they give they're given a monopoly by the politicians to put money into circulation, basically tax free, and it is it is tax free, and then spend it into circulation for whatever purpose they will to start a war to, you know, maybe prop up an industry like the oil industry, right, that's failing, right, etcetera etcetera. And this is how the bankers use the money they create from without any cost to them, but they back charges when the the bill comes due and the interest is due. The American taxpayer has to pay it.
That's how it works. And and very few people understand that this is how it works.
[01:37:15] Unknown:
And that Absolute very few. I mean, this audience is does or knows a bit, and this is why I keep banging on about it. This is why I say repeatedly, there's no point watching the economic news. It's a farce. It's irrelevant. All of it is completely irrelevant because the foundational engineering problem lies right here in this document and many other similar documents with similar incidences throughout history. This is the issue. Let me read a bit more because this is getting good. Yeah. It says, according to the program, slavery was abolished by the power of war and chattel slavery destroyed on January, New Year's Day eighteen sixty three. So just after the end of when, Chase had changed his mind. I'll tell you Right. Finding out how and why Chase had changed his mind, that's the nub of it. What force was applied to him, that's the nub of it because that whatever they did, that's what they've never ever stopped doing.
Yeah. So Yeah. Chattel slavery destroyed January 1 by proclamation of the president. I'm assuming that must have been mister Lincoln. One month after slave one month after slavery was abolished, John Sherman introduced into the Senate the National Bank Bill, which after three days was passed by a vote of 32 to 21. Then it was hurriedly sent to the House and passed the next day by a vote of 88 to 64. And five days later, it received the president's approval. Such was the haste to rush this measure through that the opposition did not have time to prepare and make a protest. Mister Colomer of Vermont barely had time to say, the numbers are interesting here. Right?
To induce the people to take $300,000,000 of bonds on interest, I. E. Government debt, to set up these banks, put out their circulation as a national currency, and we guarantee its payment, exclamation mark. Wherein is that any better than the greenback, he wrote?
[01:39:14] Unknown:
Good question. It is not. The greenbacks the greenbacks were coming with interests. Yep. No interest. No doubt. Yeah. I don't understand why plan why why Lincoln even signed it. Now maybe because of the exigencies of war that he didn't and then maybe because he trusted Chase Yeah. That he signed it, but Chase basically stabbed him in the back
[01:39:41] Unknown:
when he Something's going on there. Something's going on there at the human level that's the pivot point of all of this. Why do they give in? What force, what threats, what violence is being aimed at them? You know? So we we talked to you about good US presidents, and, one of Paul's people over on Global Voice Network mentioned rightly Andrew Jackson. Jackson's the guy they, they sent the Rothschilds sent an agent to kill him. The gun jammed twice, and Jackson's the guy that said I will drive you vipers out. Jackson absolutely knew his stuff and knew the danger of a privately owned central bank. Absolutely spot on guy. Totally spot on. Yes. Yes. And so what happened to Lincoln then? What happened to Lincoln here that he went along with it and signed it off? I don't get it.
[01:40:26] Unknown:
That's a real good question. Well, Lincoln was from Illinois, and colonel, who was colonel oh, I can't remember his name now. The guy who advised Lincoln to institute the greenbacks, was, he was in the military under Lincoln for a short while, but he's the guy who introduced the greenback. Told, Lincoln, well, you would have to borrow money from these bankers because the whole the whole thing was centered on the North was running out of money. And so he he went to the bankers, the New York bankers who, said, oh, we can lend you money at, let's say, 28 to 36% interest.
Such a deal, mister Lincoln. And he said, no. Thanks. Okay. We're already you know, we don't we don't wanna go into debt to fight this war. And so, this guy from Chicago, told, told mister Lincoln because he was close to him at least in terms of being able to speak to him by letter. Wrote him a letter. I don't I don't know if they ever met, at least during the civil war. That Yeah. He said all you have to do is print your own money. Print government money. Spend it into circulation, and the people will have no choice but to accept it. Period. So that's what Lincoln did.
[01:41:47] Unknown:
Now Well, I I'm puzzled. Go ahead. I don't know why. I'm I'm puzzled by why he would do it because I want to read you this quote from him, right, which I'm sure you'll know. And this is Lincoln batting for the right side in this quote, so I've no idea how he was warped over to the other one. I'm I'm a bit confused right now. He wrote this, the privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the government's greatest creative opportunity. So if we just step back from I'll read the rest of it in a second. If we step back from this and go along with the naive view that the government is the representation of the people's interests in a parliament or a place of discussion. In other words, they are our representatives.
What he's saying is if if your government, if your representatives have the power to create the money, it's the most phenomenal creative opportunity for all of us, which he's absolutely right. He goes on it. Absolutely. Yeah. For everyone. He goes on. He says this. By the adoption of these principles, the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges, not half. The financing We can't have that. Well,
[01:43:04] Unknown:
I know. The bankers wouldn't like that. No. Yeah. No.
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He goes on. He says the financing of all public enterprises by the way, everybody, this applies anywhere in the world. Right? And every wall has got an element of this kicking around in it. Right? The financing of public enterprises somewhere. Ah, yeah. We've got to find out why we've got to find out what happened to Chase. I'm just using him as an example. Right. What went wrong there? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The the financing of all public enterprises, the maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration.
The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. That's kind of, sort of, a bit worrying in a way, but money, he says, will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power. Well done, Abraham. Now why didn't you pull it off? Well, I know they shot him and killed him in the end.
[01:44:05] Unknown:
Well, they they obviously did. Yes. They did. They did. Because he won the election. He won the election. And, and then the war and then the banker said, okay. Well, Lincoln may rethink what he did by signing this bill, and and he may reinstitute the greenback. So Yeah. They didn't waste any time assassinating him. So anybody who thinks that John Wilkes Booth acted alone, you're not thinking right. Yeah. He was he was hired by the Rothschilds to to do that. No doubt about it. Okay? Absolutely. Because they were afraid he would reinstitute the greenback. But yeah. So, please continue. Yeah. Okay.
[01:44:43] Unknown:
They're good, these documents, aren't they? They hinge all we we get to explode, don't we? Every three or four minutes ago, What?
[01:44:50] Unknown:
It's stuff like that. Right. Right. Well well, this should be in every history book. Every history book about the civil war should contain this document and this and this conversation.
[01:44:59] Unknown:
Absolutely right. But it's not. It's absolutely it's pivotal. Of course, it's not. Because it gives it gives the clue to the real thing.
[01:45:07] Unknown:
You want true history? Yeah. Not on this planet.
[01:45:12] Unknown:
Alright. No. I kinda do want it, really. Yeah. Mister Colomer's letter. Let's carry on because he's good. Wherein is that any better than the greenback? He says, question mark. Of course, he isn't. I will he goes on. He says, I will ask gentlemen to put that question to themselves. Is it any better? What is it founded on? United States credit? United States bonds? Exclamation mark. Whom do the bill holders look to for their final redemption? The United States Treasury? We say we will redeem them. The system has no other foundation. All these fictitious contrivances about the responsibility of individual stockholders amounts to just nothing.
As to the proposition to retain 25% out of their circulation, they can put that in their pockets whenever they please, and there is nobody to question them. Well, I never. It is simply and singly founded upon public responsibility. And mister Sherman thinks that it is that is its great feature of excellence. Instead of circulating that amount of our own greenback currency upon our own responsibility and paying nothing, we are to hire these banks to circulate that amount of our currency and pay them 12 millions of dollars a year for doing it. Yankee as I am, he says, I am unable to perceive how it is possible that it can be good a good trade for us or how any shrewd man would think of entering into an agreement of that kind. It's literally insane.
What it is, of course, is complete a traitorous decision by the governing class against the great body of the people of any nation. In this case, we're talking about The United States at that time. It's just off the charts.
[01:46:56] Unknown:
And certainly by Chase because he subsequently founded the Chase Manhattan Bank. Right? Mhmm. Yep. And he was probably chopping at the bit to undo the greenback as soon as he possibly could. Now that's a really good question. Why did Lincoln sign this bill? He could've vetoed it. Maybe he didn't realize maybe he didn't realize that this, banker currency could be used to take the greenback out of circulation. Maybe he didn't realize that. Mhmm. That's possible, but he should have. Well, okay. So,
[01:47:30] Unknown:
But if you think about that quote that I just read from him Yeah. Which is the most it's a phenomenal quote. I've had that for years and years. I remember reading that about twenty years ago. I'm going, holy moe. You know, it's one of those things you go, good grief. Because when you first bang into this thing, you think, I'm probably the only person that knows this. Then you start and maybe twenty five years ago, you can't find it. Except for me. Right? No. We've got there's loads. There's tons of people that know, and it's like I get it's the repetition that exhausts you because you're going, how do we get traction with people? It's like I was saying earlier before you came on the show, I've been talking to my neighbor and I've been planting a few seeds with him and I'm trying to get him riled up as much as I am. I mean, we've got to get a fire going on this because this is the stuff that's killing us. This is the stuff that enables them to say things like Britain is considering going into war against Iran. No it isn't. It's gonna be forced, compelled, seduced, corrupted, corroded, bribed, whatever you want to say, courtesy of the money power. The money power is now considering having your sons get slaughtered in another pointless war so that they can retain control of the planet. That's really what it's all about. That's the true headline. Something like that. Right? Now now if Jefferson
[01:48:40] Unknown:
Davis had read the Hazard Circular, he probably didn't because he wasn't that, you know, you know well, he wasn't Jew savvy for one, and he wasn't really economically savvy. Being a slave owner, you know, in the South by by the way, in the South, the the South southern slave owners were the first millionaires in America. They were very, very wealthy, and they did not want to lose their source of income. Right? So they fought tooth and nail to retain their slaves. However, there was even a backlash in the South. There are a lot of southerners who's, I don't wanna fight this war for these slave owners. They're they're they're not benefiting me. The fact is the white person, the non slave owning whites in the South were miserably poor because the plantations were self sufficient. They had their own blacksmith. They had their own carpentry shop. They had free labor. They weren't about to hire a white person at wages to make their lives any better. Wasn't that kind of the same thing that was going on, among the English who were, you know, the whites the white working class were the poorest of the poor?
Yep. You know? Yeah. Throughout the throughout the history of British capitalism? Yeah. So the same thing going on in fact, the term the the the term white trash Yeah. Was invented by black slaves who would go into town and to buy stuff for the slave owner, and they saw how wretchedly poor the white people were on their way to town and in town that they called they started calling them white trash.
[01:50:16] Unknown:
I know. You know, we get lectured we get lectured by these migrants about why we have ruined the planet, and we're going, look, you're talking to the wrong guys. Where do you think they learn who do you think they practiced on first to enslave people? Right? You're looking at people go, oh, I'm free. I'm going, what are you talking about? No. You can't afford food. You can't do this. When you buy a house, you don't have a low deal title in it. It's not yours. You can't give it to your sons and daughters. You're you're registered at birth. It's a complete system of mind I was gonna swear really badly then. Of of confusing the mind Yeah. Right. Really? So that people can't literally can't see the wood for the trees.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a great Yeah. Right. Well by mister Colomer. I I must go to Vermont. Isn't it Vermont where they have all the beautiful leaves in the autumn or something? The fall, as you call it. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Astonishing. Enjoy enjoy nature while you're being robbed blind by by the bankruptcy
[01:51:11] Unknown:
system. Right? Yeah. By the way, Jackson's Jackson's, epitaph was I killed the bank. That's why nobody knows anything about Jackson. Yeah. Nobody knows anything about Jackson except that he he did he did brutalize a few Indians, you know, on that, the the Cherokee from wherever it was in Eastern Tennessee to Oklahoma. Yeah. But, the problem was there was they they were taking sides with the British against the Americans because, remember, Jackson, was it was just right after, you know, the what is it? New Orleans, the Battle of New Orleans. And, he was a big hero there. And, we were still fighting the British in those days. Right? Remember? You were still fighting you guys.
[01:51:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, if we if we wind that back a bit as well, if you look at what's going on, you've got British guys press ganged into the navy and into the military, right, courtesy of the money power, being then used to suppress the true essence of our people which had moved over there. I mean, this is why all those Puritans and everything, they wanted religious freedom. They wanted to get back under God's law. They managed to create it for a brief period of time. The money guys go, we can't have that. They're gonna be running off, you know. They're gonna what we're gonna do with them? I mean, if every there's that great quote isn't it about endurated down to a fixture? You know that quote? Yeah. Right. That lovely phrase. Yeah. Exactly. I'll I'll dig it up if I can at some point. And if this thing gets out, we're gonna lose everybody will be free. We can't have that. But No. We can't. They can't. We can't have that.
[01:52:45] Unknown:
They'll be telling us what to do. They'll find out that we've been ripping them off for thousands of years. Yeah. Yeah. We will. We know some of us know it. Yeah. Yeah. So every college kid in America and Britain and anywhere else should read this document. There should be there should be, what what what do you call it? Mandatory reading. You know? You have Compulsory. I forgot what Compulsory education. Yeah. Yeah. Compulsory education, and then you can take your your your master's degree on on elective subjects. Right? But this should be compulsory everywhere.
Compulsively everywhere. But, Eureka, this proves to everybody that academia is totally corrupt and will not teach the truth about history. Totally corrupt. Thick. They're thick. Yeah. Thick.
[01:53:31] Unknown:
Thick is a jerk. And they need to be talked. I if I could get them in the pub and go, you're a thicko. I don't care if you're a professor of this, that, and that. You're beyond stupid. Your intellect has been completely hijacked. It's like a mechanic who doesn't know how combustion actually works. Well, I can paint the car a different color. There, that's good, isn't it? No. It's not good. Why? Because it doesn't go, you ass. It doesn't work. It doesn't do it. Oh, well, we need to have a meeting about that. Yeah. Let's have a meeting about that. Do you want it a different color? No. It's got nothing to do with the color you, you know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I like I like it compulsory.
[01:54:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Compulsory truth. Truth should be compulsory. Yeah. If there were a law against telling lies, half the world would perish. If it were, death penalty for telling lies, well, we know which class would be be killed first. Yeah. I I think that's what's gonna happen when Jesus returns. That's what's gonna happen when he returns.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Absolutely. And this law, the law's got to come back. I was mentioning earlier this book I've got by Hoffman called usury, the sin that was and now is not. And when you look at scripture and you see the amount of instances where it literally interest is hammered, you absolutely don't do this, right, and the churches up to about the 13 hundreds reinforce this. There's loads of things from like John Chrysostom and others saying, you don't do this. This is completely not on. Right. We're not allowing this. Right? They knew what it it's led to this. It's led to this complete system of contra it's it's beyond sick, but it's the other side. This is the Temple Of Mammon at full blast, and we're trying to be in the temple of the law, and that's the fight. This is the fighting spiritual wickedness in high places, you know, to expand it out to a bigger context. That's really what this is. We're we're honing in on this aspect because this affects everybody literally twenty four seven.
Let me jump back in. We're we're coming up to the end of this hour. I'll read down a couple bit more. It says, two points of the British plot, those bloody British, were now secured. The abolition of labor ownership and the establishment of a banker's currency based on the public debt. Hello. Right. That's good. The next point was to get rid of the greenback, well I never, and the treasury note. And the cannon's boom at Petersburg had hardly died away when Congress passed a bill for the rapid extinction of the money which alone had saved the union. Now think about that. I mean, think who were those people in congress that did that, and why did they do it? By the way, I'm not picking on your guys. We got the same sort of bunch of assholes over here that do exactly the same thing.
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Well, the the whole history of the the British, parliament, has turned down when Lord Rothschild took his place among the House of Lords without taking the oath to swear to swear allegiance to Jesus Christ. Yeah. Okay? That's right. They've regretted that, and that, you know, that that was the shoe salesman or the vacuums cleaner salesman with his foot in the door. The rest is history.
[01:56:39] Unknown:
It says this. In his first annual report after the passage of the contraction bill in 1866, so this is a year after the end of the war between the states, the secretary of the treasury said, the process of contracting the circulation of the government notes should go on just as rapidly as possible without producing a financial crash. Okay. In other words, it was to be a controlled removal Right. Of purchasing power Mhmm. Without the people noticing. Yeah. The boiling of the frog thing. The boiling of the frog. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. It was about boiling But nevertheless,
[01:57:18] Unknown:
even though it was a slow process, it caused all kinds of financial chaos because you're, switching from one currency to another. And I remember in, when I was in Vietnam Yeah. Every six months, the military would issue the military had its own currency, which was accepted by the p x's, you know, by the by the military base. P x you know what p x is? Post exchange. Mhmm. I don't know what your British term is for it. But you you you get paid you get paid in, military money, and then you can go to the PX and buy whatever. You can get all kinds of stuff. You can get a, you know, a computer. You can get a, what do you call it? Well, not not computers. They didn't have those yet. But a stereo, all kinds of music, all you can buy all kinds of stuff at the p x. It's like imported from The USA and Japan. Right? So Right. I mean, you could buy anything there. But you had to use this government military money. And but they would, change it every six months because people would start counterfeiting it.
Right? And so even even the locals the the Vietnamese would use this money too. Okay? It was it was beautiful. Nobody's learned any interest from this money. It drives me crazy.
[01:58:31] Unknown:
It drives me crazy hearing these things because you go, yeah. It's just gonna work right. So it's the education of people. Anyway, Eloy, we're just coming to we're we're gonna carry on. So hold all the thoughts in your head for as long as you can. We're at the end of our slot here on WBN three two four. Thank you for being with us for the past couple of hours. We'll be back at the same time again next week, 3PM US eastern, 8PM in The UK. The show, however, carries on over at rumble.com and YouTube and on radiosoapbox.com. If If you wanna carry on listening, go over to paulenglishlive.com to pick up the links and you can join us there after the break. We're gonna play you out with a song Thanks, Reconciliation, who I think is cheekily Patrick for this. He he sent this over. This is called a song called The Greenback Dollar by the Kingston Trio. Did you know this? I didn't even know of this. We're gonna play it with this. We'll see you all again next week, and we'll be back on the other side of this song.
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Some people say I'm a no count. Others say I'm no good. But I'm just a natural born traveling man doing what I think I should. Oh, yeah. Doing what I think I should.
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And I don't give a damn about a greenback a dollar. Spend it fast as I can. Or a wailing song and a good guitar. The only things that I understand. Oh, boy. The only things that I understand.
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When I was a little baby, my mama said, hey, son. Travel where you will and grow to be a man and sing what must be a song. Oh, boy. Sing what must be sung. Now that I'm a grown man, I've traveled here and there. I've learned that a bottle of brandy and a song, the only ones who ever care. Food boy, the only ones who ever care.
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And I don't give a damn about a greenback and dollar,
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Some people say I'm a no count. Others say I'm no good. But I'm just a natural born traveling man doing what I think I should. Oh, yeah. Doing what I think I should.
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And I don't give a damn about a green like a dollar, spending as fast as I can. Oh, with this song and a good guitar. The only things that I understand. Oh, boy. The only things that I understand.
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The only things that I understand. Oh, boy. The only things that I understand.
[02:02:13] Unknown:
The Kingston Trio and Greenback Dollar. That was really rather groovy. What did you think about that, Eli?
[02:02:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't give a damn about a Greenback Dollar unless I have to spend it, right, and buy something with it. By the way Yeah. Those greenbacks survived until 1963 when they were taken out of circulation by Lyndon Bain link what? Lyndon Baines Johnson right after the assassination of Kennedy who also issued government money on backed paper currency, which earned no interest. He did. Yep.
[02:02:51] Unknown:
Well, we have have no idea. Mentioned earlier on. We had the same thing over here in 1916. Eric mentioned it earlier in the in the first hour. We have a thing over here called the Bradbury pound named after JB Bradbury who was the chief cashier of the Bank of England at the time. And the the yet again, war is involved And, what occurred was that Britain, basically, although people were not informed of this, we were six weeks away from starvation in World War one in early nineteen sixteen. Wow. Because the u boats had literally destroyed the British Merchant Marine, and, there was no food coming in. And so they were up to all sorts of things and the economy was suffering terribly and they thought, well, it's gonna grind to a halt. So they came out with a note called the Bradbury pound, which was basically the greenback. Right. It was, issued as a non interest bearing, non debt note by the Treasury, and it restored and revived economic activity. In other words, exchanges could take place and people were willing to work because they could get this note and then go off and buy some cheese and eggs or whatever they needed to do. It's not really rocket science. It's just that if you listen to economists, it becomes rocket science to confuse you.
It's just Right. Absolutely. A big confuse a thon. Yeah. Absolutely.
[02:04:05] Unknown:
In your in your country also, John Kenneth Galbraith in the twentieth century proposed that inflation is good. Right? I know. Because it's good for the people who do the inflating, but it's not good for us who have to pay the inflated prices.
[02:04:23] Unknown:
Yeah. All of these guys with brains, and they do have brains. I'm not saying Galbraith and Keynes and all these other guys didn't have brain brains. But their brains get hijacked by something just like Sam and Pete Chase. What? Every single one of them. Yeah. They got I but bribery of what? I mean, it's it's got to be a threat. It must be death. I I I I think they've got to be threatened with violence. I can't see it as being anything else. I I mean, it's the only thing that make you so oh, by the way, if you do this, we're gonna kill your wife, yeah, and your children and all that. I don't think we will because we've done it in the past because we're that's what we're gonna do, and we'll get away with it because we've already got all the barristers and the courts in our pocket anyway.
[02:05:02] Unknown:
That's why yeah. Everybody has to think of the banking, establishment that runs the world as a banking mafia. Yes. They are a mafia, and they are responsible for assassinations worldwide in every single country that has ever existed, and I could reel off, at least a dozen or more politicians in America who have been assassinated by them because they threatened to dismantle their money system. Yeah. It didn't begin with Abraham Lincoln. Well, we talked about Jackson. They wanted to assassinate Jackson, but they failed. And they actually tried to assassinate Buchanan before because Lincoln had won the election, and Buchanan was gonna send supplies to Charleston, Charleston Harbor.
And, and somebody poisoned him at a dinner, and he said, okay. I I know what's happening here. I'm not gonna send the supply boats to to Charleston Harbor. I'll let Lincoln do that. Okay? So they tried to assassinate Buchanan. They assassinated Lincoln, McKinley, Harrison, and several men. Many men. Yeah. Everybody who's been assassinated in America
[02:06:24] Unknown:
has been assassinated by the banking mafia. Period. Absolutely. Yep. Yeah. They just have. Yeah. I've come across this quote that we mentioned. I'm gonna read it to you. Now that I've seen since I first came across this, I've seen comments saying that this is a fiction. You get this all the time. It may or may not be. I don't really care. All I know is it's absolutely spot on. It's purported, I'll use that word, purported to have been sent to the Times newspaper in London in 1865. So this is at the close of hostilities over in and it's referring to the US federal government creating greenbacks. This is what it said. If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture. Look up the word. It's with an I. I can't find it anywhere in diction. Indurated down to a fixture is a lovely phrase. Yes. Then that government will furnish its own money without cost.
It will pay off its debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. Well they wouldn't if you did the same thing but we get Graham and he says that government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe. Yeah? And your point is, well, we don't mind. That's great. If you get them destroyed then, we want that. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, this is on a website here and by a guy called Richard Murphy who's a tax expert over here and I sometimes have difficulty reading Murphy's stuff. I've not read it for a few years. He's very bright with all this kind of stuff and I'm not saying he's necessarily batting on the same wicket as we are but he's a very bright guy. And he he says this, he says the author of that missive, this is his comment on the bit I've just read, now long gone disclosed his fear which permeated everything he said. That fear was threefold. Firstly, it was of representative government itself. It is because a representative government is supposed to represent us. Right? So he don't like that. That's right. So Second, it it was of what representative government might do for its people.
It might actually make things work.
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And third Right. Yeah. Prosperous beyond compare.
[02:08:41] Unknown:
Absolutely. Yeah. Thirdly, it was of what representative government free from the control of financial markets might achieve. And he goes on, he says, has anything very much changed since 1865? It would still seem that every single commentator on this site wishes to belittle and undermine the obvious truth that any government possessed of its own central bank and currency that is acceptable for both domestic and international trade and that is backed up by a sound taxation system is capable of funding anything that the people of its jurisdiction are capable of doing. And this is why I bang on about we need to own the bank. The people of England need to own the Bank of England. That's the solution so that financial forces can't and that's why we've got to gang up everybody and be huge numbers and have a peasant's banking revolt. This is the thing that will solve so many problems, problems that we can't even see yet and then we can get any problems that are left over, this is my take on it, we'll be able to fix them permanently.
They won't keep springing back up like weeds all the time. You'll just rob them of their ability to create these problems for us because they are able to do it because they've got unlimited funds because they're robbing us. It's as simple as that. Well Yeah. The
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the other side of the coin is, when governments, again, are corrupt and if you have a truly representative government that is not, borrowing money from bankers, then Mhmm. You know, the the government has all the funds it needs without the bankers. However Mhmm. You can go overboard as the in the French revolution because they tried to monetize the debt by printing too much currency. Right? And, so then you had a high high inflation high inflation. Now the government that's the other end of the spectrum with unbacked currency. This the the greenbacks were unbacked paper currency. Right? Yeah. Subject to inflation. However, when the government is so prosper when the country is so prosperous that nobody notices this inflation.
Right? Yeah. What's wrong with that? Right? Deflation? No. You don't have to worry about in fact, in the nineteen fifties, right after World War two, we had a period of deflation where prices fell. Prices fell. And you and instead of buying 10, 10 dots, you know, I don't know if you ever had these candies, 10 dots per sheet or maybe 20 dots, little piece of candy that that you bite off the off the sheet, and you get 20 of those for a penny. Right? Right. What's what's wrong if you can buy 40 of those for a penny? Is is there something wrong with that? Right? The the currency is simply worth more. If you have to, you buy you put out a half penny or a quarter penny. That's all you have to do. It's not a problem.
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You know, they they say in economic circles that deflation is even worse. They say that inflation That's a good question. For who? Worse for Yeah. This is because all economic statements are framed through a consideration of the survival of the banking system. A consideration which they shouldn't have. We don't want it to survive. Its survival guarantees our non survival. It's as simple as that. Yeah. It's as simple as that. Yeah. Yeah.
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And so with this power in play, the money power is so it's unbelievably powerful because if you can inflate it's like it's it's like a magic trick. You know, like, money grows on trees, and you can pick the money off the tree and spend it in the circulation. That's how powerful this power to create money is. And nobody's nobody knows about it because nobody teaches it. The bankers don't wanna talk the education, manipulator. The economists don't wanna teach it. The historians probably don't even know anything about it. And Yep. Economists should know better, but, they're they're mum.
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They're they're lift my lips are to be able to pay their mortgage off. And they want to get tenure they wanna get tenure at some university and get and get credibility. And all that makes it oh, don't rock the boat. Yeah. Don't fix things. Don't make it don't make it an effective nation. Don't do that. Just you glorify yourself with your guff. I'm gonna play you something from a few years back. Two I've just thought of something. There's a chap over here called Godfrey Bloom. Okay? Okay. Don't necessarily agree with everything that Godfrey Bloom says, but he used to be in the European Parliament, and he's still alive and kicking. He's got a good lively YouTube channel. He made this speech in the European Parliament in on May in Strasbourg 02/2013.
It was the joint debate banking union single supervisory mechanism. This is what he had to say. It's just coming up in a second. Here we go. Okay. Oh, hang on. I'm it probably help if I unmute it. Just a minute. Let me Commissioner,
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mister president, I rise again. I'm afraid to make the same old hoary speech that I've been making here for several years, and that is, it is my opinion that you do not really understand the concept of banking. All the banks are broke. Bank Santander, Deutsche Bank, Royal Bank of Scotland, they're all broke. And why are they broke? It isn't an act of God. It isn't some sort of tsunami. They're broke because we have a system called fractional reserve banking, which means that banks can lend money that they don't actually have. It's a criminal scandal, and it's been going on for too long. To add to that problem, you have moral hazard, a very significant moral hazard from the political sphere.
And most of the problem starts in politics and central banks, which are part of the same political system. We have counterfeiting, sometimes called quantitative easing, but counterfeiting by any other name. The artificial printing of money, which if any ordinary person did, they'd go to prison for a very long time. And yet governments and central banks do it all the time. Central banks repress the amount of interest that rate rates are so we don't have the real cost of money, and yet we blame the real retail banks for manipulating LIBOR.
The sheer effrontery of this is quite astonishing. It's central banks. It's central banks that manipulate interest rates, commissioner. And plus, underneath all this, we talk loosely in a rather cavalier fashion, do we not, about deposit guarantees. So when banks go broke through their own incompetence and chicanery, the taxpayer picks up the tab. It's theft from the taxpayer. And until we start sending bankers, and I include central bankers and politicians to prison for this outrage, it will continue.
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Spot on. Right? What can you say about that? You should see the faces of the people that were receiving that message. They are clueless. Right. They are absolutely clueless. They don't know. And this is why I say that we're ruled by oaths. It doesn't matter how articulate and how many degrees they've got. What is the point of all of that intelligence when the fundamental flaw right at the beginning of the first sentence is ignored?
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It's just useless. Yeah. But the rest of you dumbed down. That's true. We've been dumbed down. And and the fact is, have you noticed how childish people have been getting over the last decade or so? Seriously, you yeah. When you look around your local your local, do you have local councils in The States? I think you probably do. Do you? Yes. I do. Yeah. Right. Yeah. City councils. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've got county councils. Then my local county council, I'm thinking of doing a monologue, saying, my local one is Hartford because I live in Hertfordshire. Hartford Chounce all these unwell because when you look at what they've got in there, they're very childish.
Yeah. Childish. And half the people haven't got I I actually wonder whether some of them are actually illiterate because They did. They can't seem to put a letter together, and you got these people earning salaries that look like a telephone number.
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How do they get Just like you and me, Eric. I'm I'm actually can't move for the amount of cash in my kitchen. It's I can't even get to the cooker. There's that much money on the floor. It's unbelievable. Well, do you know that I'm a multimillionaire,
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with Fockbobs and, with Fockbobs.
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Sneaky suspicion. You remember the Fockham fractional reserve mafia wing? You better watch it with that one.
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Well, you print it off. You see? You just print off as many fock bobs as you want. It's the only country in the world because, you know, I've declared independence. It's fucking hall I live in. Got joint passport where you if you feel a bit short, you just do what the government does. You just go on the website. Just print off money. That's that's what we do. You say Yeah. Yeah. Funk bobs. Well, the the chairman of the Fed
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who invented that phrase quantitative easing Mhmm. He said, well, what what I'm gonna be doing is I'm gonna be throwing money out of helicopters.
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Yeah. That's right. That's right. But it's got a reputation. It's gotta be paid, you know. There's pictures of words
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for theft. For example, they call it taxation. Right. It is not taxation. Yeah. You see, government what happens local council, the only difference between mafia and local council is the mafia will come and hit you hurt you physically if you don't pay them. Right. The local council Right. Hurt you psychologically if you don't pay them. But They throw you in jail. Taking that's right. And it takes mon they take money but from by false pretenses. The government grabs that, and then they just give back a little bit of what they need, what they think they need. And that's it. That's the way it works. And what does the government grab it for? To pay off the usury scam, which they can never pay off. That's right. Yeah. It's as simple as that. Politicians.
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Yeah. To bribe politicians. Precisely.
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And when you talk to people about usury, a lot of people just don't get it. It's like, oh, yeah. It goes right over their heads. But surely, if you have a loan for somebody, you gotta pay that money back. Yes. And you you explain compound interest. They still don't get it.
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That's amazing. They don't bond us. Yeah. They they don't. I mean, my my conversation with my neighbor earlier today, I just brought up I said, you know we could print our own money around here. He said, could we? I said, I got a prison for it. I said, I got a prison for it. I said, but I shouldn't go to prison for it. I said, if you wanted a village if we wanted the village pound, we said, he said, I really like pounds, shillings, and pence. I said, you're going in the right direction. So did I. The the we had this most confusing thing. We didn't have a 100 pennies to the pound. We had 240.
And not because we're stupid, but because it works. It's a much That's okay. 204. It's a brilliant number. It's someone else's fault. It's when pennies were actually worth something. You could actually buy something for a penny. You could get some liquorice for a penny. You'd be going to the toilet for a month for a penny and stuff like that. And, yeah, it's just it's a very, very and people just don't like it. Wasn't it? A pig penny would be. Big fat heavy oh, you could Yeah. I remember as a kid, your grandma wants to give you a threepenny bit. That was threepence. What? Really? Or my younger other one is is a sixpence, 6 d, Which is what worth what's 6 d worth these days? 2 and a half pence?
2 and a half pence. You should see what you could get for for a tanner. Yeah. Which is what a 6 we had all these different names and all the old people when they were doing their shopping with their purses with their money, they were sharp as razors with their change. It actually facilitates a much more creative thinking. And the reason it's got there's all sorts of reasons sharp. Yeah. For 240, you can divide it by 12346810121520. It's just a number 360 would have been even better but they probably thought it was too much. $12,306. Yeah. So you got all this. You could just divide things up. It it didn't come about because someone said, oh, let's just put 240 in it for nothing. Nah. It works. It's based on imperial measurements, which are better than metric any day of the week. Right? So all this old stuff that was brilliant, yeah, we're denied access to it. So when he said to me, I want pound shillings and pence back, I said, right. You're I'm signing you up. You're in.
Yeah.
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And also, Yeah. So I'll carry on. Go ahead, Gerry. Well, no. Thanks. What I was gonna say is, property bits were called Nevilles because Neville Chamberlain introduced them. Oh. Did he? That was the Nevilles. Yes. Yeah. Because you had this you had the silver throat and a bit, and they discontinued that in favor of the the the sort of traditional throat knee bit, and it was Neville Chamberlain. Yeah. They called them Neville's. Uh-huh. Right. Apparently. A Neville sounds like something you would snort up your nose.
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Well, our prime minister, I think, does that. What's going on down there? The heat's getting to you, Eli. What's going on? I think it is.
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Another anecdote from my time in Vietnam. Okay. So while I was there, I made note of all the corporations that were making big bucks off the war effort. Right? Yeah. And it never occurred to me. I didn't know anything about the Federal Reserve or anything like that. However but when I got back to America and I used the GI bill to go to college, I took an economics course. And there there's a a thick a tome. You know what a tome is? I think that's a pretty sure Yeah. Yeah. It's a big thick book. Right? So this book called Economics by Samuel oh, he's a Jewish guy. I can't remember his last name.
Samuel something or other. Anyway, you know, so that was the textbook for the course. And I was looking through this textbook, and there were only two paragraphs about the Federal Reserve. The rest was all economic theory be being, you know, utterly worthless. Right? What they teach in college. So this book by by Samuel, Giugai only had two paragraphs on the Federal Reserve. Okay?
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When Right? Is it any wonder that we're we're ruled by people who are morons? I mean, I I think an economics degree course is about five years. They spend one or two days looking at the central bank. That's it. One to two days out of five years looking at the central bank. Well, no. Well, you go into the back room, and there you tell them the truth about how the Federal Reserve works. And you're sworn to secrecy. If you give the secret away, you die. I guess that's right. I guess that's gotta be something like that. That's what Simon b James was called. Yeah. If you let the cat down Probably. Killing wait. Yeah. We're gonna kill you, mate. Okay? We mean it. Right? Because we're all making a good living here, and and if you go, we'll all get exposed. You think we're gonna let that happen to us? No. We know that we're crooks, and we're gonna keep on doing it. And if you if you rat us out, you're gonna die. Oh, okay. So what do you wanna do? Okay. I don't really wanna die. That that's the problem. Yeah. It's gonna be that. Freemasonry calls it freemasonry calls it king kill the king. Whoever rats on the Freemason gambit
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is gonna die, and he's gonna die a horrible death. Yeah. Or or they'll just threaten your family because it's even worse if they threaten your family. We'll we'll rape your daughter and then kill her. Yep.
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They're lovely people. Oh, they're They are mafia. Yeah. Yeah. Eric's right. It's mafia. Right. It's just it's good. And you are I actually mafia.
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Yeah. I I called government actually mafia. But, actually, perhaps they could, bring back the fragging. Did you ever come up against any Fragging. Instances of fragging in in No. What's that? Because that's where Yeah. If there's gonna go out on a very dangerous patrol the next day, they'll just throw a fragmentation grenade into the senior blokes, tent, and they would not have to go out on the patrol the next day. So that what's called fragging. So all the senior people thought, stop that. We're not we're not gonna go anywhere dangerous because we're marking frags. I mean, did you ever get any I I
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Did did you get any of that? Wasn't you that wasn't you, Eli, was it? You were around fragrant people, were you? That that no. No. I no. I didn't. Although, I could've used a Claymore mine to do that. But, nevertheless, we had a company commander who was like that. We we called him the hawk because he volunteered our company to to do the most dangerous missions. So after one or two of these missions, he died.
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Right. He he took a wound in his thigh,
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and the, the company, medics refused to treat the wound, and he bled to death.
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Holy moly. Why? Because they didn't they didn't like him. They were fed up in the Dominican's
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way. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Mhmm. Okay? So that's that's war, folks. And, hopefully, there's gonna be another war like that where all the people playing ball with the mafia get get toasted. Right? Yep. They get really toasted. Okay?
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Let's hop back into this document. Yeah. Yeah. That's really good. It is. Hop back in, and we'll just this will propel a bit more thinking. In his first annual report after the passage of the contraction bill in 1866, the secretary of the treasury said, I think I've read this, the process of contracting the circulation of the government note should go on just as rapidly as possible without producing financial crass. Such was the secretary's zeal to serve his Wall Street and London masters. Why? Where's his zeal come from? Death death threats, I guess. I see it. That even even the bankers even the bankers saw that he must be cautioned, lest the people become alarmed.
So e g Spalding, a New York banker, wrote to him to, quote, contract slowly so as to maintain a tolerable easy money market for at least a year to come. Now here's some numbers. That year, there were but 632 business failures in all the country. But as contraction continued, failures multiplied and labor was thrown out of employment until in 1877 to 1878, There were over 10,000 failures and 6,000,000 men were tramping for work. But even this did not give the money power entire control of the currency. Silver was being produced, you naughty silver producing Americans. Incredible.
Yeah. Alexa And its coin its coinage was unrestricted. This must be stopped. So another British emissary armed with half a million of British corruption money yep. We know about that. Invaded our con invaded our congress and captured enough marketable representatives to secure the demonetization act. This is the pro the marketable representatives. We've got holy mo that's what we've got. We're governed by marketable represent. They're called politicians, and that's what govern us. These are just professional actors who just,
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literally By the way useless. Let me interject here. There's another anecdote here from America. Yep. You know, the Elliot Ness who put a lot of mafiosos away. His Yep. His, army was called the untouchables. Do you know why they were called the untouchables?
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Please tell.
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Because they were single men who had no families. So the mafia could not threaten to, you know, break the legs of their wives, daughters, sisters, etcetera. Those were the untouchables. You had to have guys like that who couldn't be pressured by the mafia.
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I think we need them back. I think you have them back. Untouchables. Right? We do. I mean, the the Spartans the Spartans had a policy that you could not go off and fight until you'd sired a son.
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Right. Okay.
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Who's gonna replace you in twenty years' time if you get killed? And many of you will because you're gonna be fighting against average odds. Right? So you got that makes sense. That absolutely. So and I mentioned in the earlier part that we do need almost like these this force that literally anybody starts to even think of usually get their legs chopped off. Right. Of course, you know, and we've got it at the lower levels. They have things called tally men. I used to have them up in the North Of England. Doorstep usurers.
They would lend, like, a shilling to a housewife and over the course of the next three months, she'd pay 5 to 10 shillings back. It's just sick. It's absolutely sick. I hate it. These people need smashing to pieces literally. It's disgusting and it's it's it's murder. It murders people. It ruins everything that they've got. Right. Which is why the churches when they actually had their act together absolutely were really heavy on it. It's like Alright. You know, they were just so heavy on it. Well Nothing they need to be. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because during the middle ages,
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you know, the papacy didn't need to use usury to steal from people. They had the, you you pay the the priests of, money to get your dead relatives out of out of purgatory. Indulgences,
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they were called. Right? And and they're called mortuaries as well, Eli. There was another thing they called mortuaries. They they began to disintegrate during the thirteen hundreds. Belloc talks about this. You know, he's an ardent Catholic and supports certain things and I I part company with him there, but in terms of his analysis of all sorts of other things, he's absolutely spot on and he he shows the rot absolutely that the rot fell up. You couldn't you couldn't afford to die. Yeah. It was too expensive. Right. You can actually afford it. Right. Okay. I see. Yeah. So you'd be rotting on your own kitchen floor or something? Is that I guess. I don't know. Yeah. They won't give you a tub of burial. Or they wouldn't they wouldn't let let you dig the grave of your No. I think you had to pay someone to do that. Yeah. I mean, Alfred somebody. Yeah. I was talking about king Alfred and about his heaviness against usurers. If if they really took a dislike to you, which they would, you were denied a Christian burial and you were kicked out of everything. I mean, it was heavy. I mean, you were just out of life. You were not gonna be in it. You because you are ruining people's lives. You're a parasite. Right.
So that's why he was called Alfred the Great. Great guy. Yeah. He was great. He was absolutely great. He really was I wish he'd come back. He was bloody great. Please continue.
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I mean Yeah. Bringing these side notes, notes in allows people to appreciate the value of honest money. Mhmm. And what a great boon it is to society to have honest money, and nobody cares. The apathy the the education establishment is designed to create apathy. Yep. About And it's working. We are but we are all
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frontline soldiers. I keep saying this. We are frontline soldiers. And we have got to do and when I say soldiers, not using weapons or or conventional stuff, no. That doesn't work. We use our brains. We fight with our brains and do what we're doing, and that's the thing. And, I can't stand hours and hour on people like that, but there's one thing he did say, which was good, and that is leadership is getting a person to do what they want to do, not what they don't want to do. And I think that's and I think that that that's the thing. People we've all got different skills in different areas, communications, writing letters, and things like that. We got to just literally grind them down and grind them down. Do what the Kalahari bushmen do when they go hunting. They wear the animal down until it collapses. Right.
Right. Just chase it and chase it and chase it until it's exhausted. We got to do that the same with our enemies. Chase it and chase it and wear it down and wear it down and keep on and on and on. We should when Starmer comes on the scene, maybe when Trump comes on Trump comes on the scene. We saw the Laurel Razzi. Starmer.
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That's right. I think Why can't we I think the word army, you know, is really good for us. I think we need to view ourselves as a military order. I'm I'm serious because war is being waged upon us not with guns necessarily, although they'll resort to that if needs be. They will. But it's it's war. It's war. We we we are denied a voice. We're denied a a place at the table. Even if we got one we would be ignored therefore we're at war. They're saying you're gonna do this, we're gonna I don't consent to that. We go we don't care we're gonna use men with muscles to bash you in the head. We go okay we're gonna have to bash back. We've got to I don't want it to get to that point but history unfortunately is littered with this conflict. It's you know Lord Ashton said, he's the guy that said, absolute power corrupts absolutely, which he's absolutely right. The other one he says, which is not as well known, is the issue which has come down the centuries and which must be resolved sooner or later is the people against the banks.
There you go. It's all it's everywhere. Yeah. It's everywhere. Mhmm. It's just not publicized enough. Let's let me jump back in. I'll spur us onto another little look. So it says, yeah. Our last thing was marketable representatives to secure the demilitization act. It goes on. But their scheme was not yet perfected. The National Bank Act, in order not to alarm the people, limited the banknote circulation to $300,000,000. And the act of Congress, March 1864, permitted the secretary of the treasury at his discretion to increase the greenback circulation to $400,000,000.
In his circular, mister Hazard said, it will not do to allow the greenback, so called, to circulate as money for any length of time for we cannot control that. So on the January 1875, John Sherman introduced a bill which was passed and became a law authorizing the national banks to expand or contract the volume of their currency at will without regard to limit. Also, that from and after January 1879, the greenback should be redeemed and retired as fast as presented for that purpose in sums of not less than $50. So the greenback arises in 1862 and is still chugging around doing a a whole power of good up until 1879 when they start to take it out of circulation. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. He says and he goes and says, thus the rec the record shows that the hazard circular has been adopted by our lawmakers and has been the rule of action for both the old political parties and that it has been carried out to the letter as far as legislation is concerned, which it obviously has.
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Mhmm.
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Mhmm. Yeah. So people knew a lot about economics in these days. Yep. And by the way, the I I I I just I just mentioned his name real quickly. It was colonel Edmund Dick Taylor of Chicago who was credited with suggesting to president Lincoln the idea of financing the war by issuing unbacked paper money, which became known as greenbacks. Now I don't know what happened to Taylor that he should have been around
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instead of Chase, but he wasn't. Yeah. Okay. Back to you. Mhmm. Yeah. No. No. I'm glad you I knew there was some guy that had suggested it to to Lincoln, and that obviously provoked him to write that wonderful quote from him. And yet again, I'm still puzzled by why he went along with it in 1863 when he was already clear that the greenback had saved his bacon literally. I mean it just it just saved things for his purposes, whatever people might think about that. Right. It goes on. It says, it is true. It received a check-in 1878 by a law authorizing the coinage of a limited number of silver dollars and the preservation of the greenback circulation. But these acts intended to head off the worst features of the English policy have been rendered nugatory. There's a word for you everybody. N u g a t o r y. Useless, it means. Nugatory by the dishonest and illegal management of the public funds and the evasions and misconstruction placed by the treasury officials upon the unmistakable intentions and requirements of law. So under the ruling policy of both Democrats and Republican parties, the Hazard Circular has become the financial policy of the nation, and it has been adopted for a certain purpose, to wit, capital control of labor by controlling wages.
And it goes on, it says here. This is Yeah. Country. So what is what is the result of all this? It has driven labor to pauperism. Hello everyone. On both sides of the Atlantic. And is fast concentrating the lands, the machinery, and the wealth of the nation in the hands of a moneyed oligarchy whose headquarters are in London and Wall Street. Instead of better times, we may look for worse and worse as money becomes more and more under the control of the conspirators and as wages continue to fall and prices to decline. Employment for labor, skilled and unskilled, will become more and more difficult to obtain. The people are already appalled by a profound gloom darker than ever before overshadowed civilization, for man sees clearer his possibilities. And, Eric, you were talking about the gloom of the people over here. I don't know what it's like in The States, but gloom is definitely a, a concern. It's definitely a condition over here, isn't it? It is. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
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And It's fear. Actually It's fear. That's right. Yeah. And also, people in fear so I was saying earlier, please stop me if I've if I've, you know, if I'm repeating myself. But people No repeat away. But people in fear, for example, when you have shock, you revert back to childhood. And this is why I think we assume a lot of childhood and and immature behavior. And this is why we have got no effective opposition. You go along to these truth groups, so called truth groups, you'll find all they do is they want a leader to lead them out of this terrible situation.
This is what we've been conditioned to to have. Oh, Donald J. Trump. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He'll leave the mirror as well. That's right. But, oh, yeah. If you got a leader, just just look in the mirror. That leader will be looking at you. Right? We've all got to be responsible for ourselves. Yeah. And I think that although I haven't got and I I mean, that's the trouble. We have been conditioned to look for a leader. That is the main main problem. And look at the yellow vests in France. Now the yellow vests were very successful because one, they were farming folk mainly, and farming folk don't rely on leaders.
They're self motivated. And number two, they didn't have a leader until they were in infiltrated and then they had one. But if you don't have a leader, it worked extremely efficiently. And what they were doing is taking over the French equivalent to freeways where you have to pay Right. Auto routes, I think they're called, and letting people go through free of charge and things like that. Alright. So Right. This is the thing. And I I I feel very strongly that it will take several generations to breathe that out of us. It's looking for a leader mentality. That's the that is the problem.
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Mhmm. Right. Well, yeah. I think, local pea people who are aware need to form groups to make other people aware because it's not coming from the top. You know, it has to come from the bottom up, and that's what people call democracy, but it's really republicanism. You know, selecting local representatives and do away with all of this, globalism. You know, it's got that's gotta go. But, I think we also have to realize that the the bankers know that they're in trouble too. So because the Federal Reserve note has been inflated so high that you were talking about trillions.
We're talking about trillions. Once a week, something like that, it goes up by a trillion. And Mhmm. There's no way an economic system, hyper hyperinflation can survive long under hyperinflation. It has to collapse. So that's why they're coming up with the CBDC central bank digital currency, which is you you can't monetize it. You can't you can't give a figure of how much money is gonna be in circulation. They can create as much money as they want, inflate it constantly, and nobody knows how much money is actually in circulation. So but it's not gonna solve the problem either because it's just a matter of disguising it even more. That's all that's at. It's what Bitcoin. Bitcoin by bankers.
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Okay? That's the next step. Why if you think of it just even not even in monetary terms, but this is obviously completely apply applicable to this. Why would you employ the people who created the problem who now tell you they're going to solve it? Sorry. How does that work? Yeah. We're the people that set your house on fire, but don't worry. We've come up with a new way of putting it out. I don't think so. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You you know? But I I mean, if you look at the news, not that one should, actually you should only look at it through this lens here or lenses like this. If you're looking at it through the glasses they've put on your the ones they put on the general public you're gonna remain blind all the time. But when you've got a glimpse of where the real truth is the whole of the news then becomes literally a demonstration of their thievery. That's that that's why I don't bother with it. The content's useless because the context is warped. Well, we're going to transform the economy. No. You're not. You're the ones that have destroyed it. You're the ones that actually mangle it permanently twenty four seven. You're the ones who doesn't have one amongst you who who can tell the public, unlike Godfrey Bloom just there, which was amazing, even though it's from 02/2013. But why is that clip not played every night on the BBC News? Right. It should be. Because the people are stupid.
[02:42:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Well, I mean, you can't make the people intelligent that that they'd be voting for the right people. Right? Yeah. What Mark Twain said, if you don't read the newspapers, you're uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you are misinformed.
[02:42:17] Unknown:
Yep. You it's true. It's true. I mean, we got this situation here recently. We mentioned it. BlackRock have been coming over here. They're part of the usury cartel. Right? The money power. Right. And they've been coming over and hobnobbing with the puppet, Starmer, who's just an imbecile really. I mean, you know, he's just whatever. We can't I can't we can't start. We run out of our deceptive service. Right? Is that his name? He's just queer starmer? It is. Yeah. Queer Starmer. And, they're saying, well, British land is undervalued so we're gonna buy it. You can't buy it. Who are you?
Fuck it off. But he didn't say that because he's an idiot, because he thinks he's got to kowtow to the central banking system. Now in some to some degree, the disease is so entrenched. We know that there's this thing called the bank the Bank of International Settlements. We talked about it the other week. There's some tremendous there's a tremendous book on it called the Tower of Basil, which I'm reading. I've got a copy of it. You can get a copy of welib.org, fantastic site for books, 46,000,000 books, welib.org. Go there if you want stuff. It's got practically everything. Lots of things that we're covering here. Tremendous resource.
The the the Bank of International Settlements is a country unto itself. No government in the world can prosecute it. Why? How does this all work? And the other thing is if you look at this instance, like The US so called Civil War, the war between the states, we look at World War one and World War two and the wars they're planning now, behind every single one there are bankers. They are the driving force. If they say money will be made available for armaments, there'll be a war. If they say it's not, there won't be. There won't be. And Right. You know, I often it's why one nation going it alone can only do it for a short period of time. This is my take on it. Because the bankers speak to all the other surrounding nations and say, you better attack and destroy that otherwise we're gonna crash all your currencies on the international exchanges and because the people that run those countries are also stupid about central banking and don't know the basics of what they're supposed to be doing, they go oh yeah okay. So we all end up killing one another for a bunch of bankers. That's all that war's ever been. We just end up killing one another, our brothers across Europe, all these wars that we have in the last century, just so that some fat bankers can get even fatter. I mean, I'm I'm putting it in comic book terms. It's actually far more complex than that and it is a spiritual war and it is about spiritual wickedness in high places. They're serving another god. They're serving not something that I I think could even exist down here, but that's exactly what's taking place and this is how it manifests in our space, courtesy of their control of the bank.
It talks about this here in this next paragraph. It just says, it keeps property and wages down to hardpan prices by limiting the money to the coin basis because when money is scarce, prices must be low. And when prices are low, the bondholders, I. E. The money power, interest is able to absorb and eat up all the proceeds of labor and prevent the people from ever ridding themselves of the burden. In other words, they buy up cheap assets. You had a thing there, didn't there? There was a thing in the South. Carpetbaggers went down to the South and just literally bought everything for a penny and destroyed the people because of it, laid in a sort of basis of poverty. And we've had it over here.
Yeah. You know, the North Of England is a big industrial pace where people are earning sixpence. It would grim up north. It was. Yeah. But it just was. But
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as I say, we've got enormous amount of humor around. British and American humor is fantastic. Why don't we, when Trump comes on the scene or queer starmer comes on the scene, whistle the Lauren Hardy theme tune. And just start laughing at them. What can they do? Right. They're funny. They're really funny. Yes, sir. Just laugh at them. And this is it. I mean, I my attitude is you you stuff a joke up the breach of your, imaginary gun and fire a joke at them. Have a laugh.
[02:46:21] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. We just got to laugh and joke. Yeah. Aren't you forgetting that Nigel Farage in his garage is gonna save us? Nigel's gonna save
[02:46:30] Unknown:
us, Eric. Used car salesman. What the r Arthur Daly, the world is his lobster. That's the thing, ain't it? The world is his lobster.
[02:46:38] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:46:43] Unknown:
But no. Reason, I mean, just,
[02:46:45] Unknown:
yeah. A little summing up paragraph here on this section. We're not gonna get through all of it. I'm on page eight. It's a fantastic document, this. We're gonna come back to it. Yes. It says, this sad condition, this ruination of of the people in the main, will continue and intensify until the chains of the money control are broken and that element of industrial life is permitted to flow freely and unobstructed through the life channels of industry. The bottom line is, well there's all sorts of bottom lines, but this key component is I believe I'm convinced that a Bank of Britain movement needs to start. We don't actually set up a real bank, it's for education purposes. It's to show what how it should be and it needs all that humor that Eric's talking about. It needs all of that. Right. It needs short concise things. We're having a great time here for two three hours. Most people are not gonna find two or three hours. I'm really aware of it. They're not gonna find two or three hours.
And, it's it's parceling this stuff up. We need these mind bombs that go off, because I don't know what how else better to spend my time. I'm not saying it would succeed, but I I'm at the limits of knowing what to do today. Hopefully, tomorrow, an even better idea comes along. You got that. But it it's pulling people together saying you think we're all in something together we are it's called the shit and this is what it's made out of and you've got to hammer this thing first this is the thing to hammer isn't it was it Jefferson said for all you know for a 100 people hacking at the leaves there's only one hacking at the root. Well, this is the root. Right. In the pragmatic realm, this is absolutely the root of all the ruin on the Earth. All of it is this. Yeah. It's nothing else. Yeah.
[02:48:19] Unknown:
Yeah. So what could you do to make bankers afraid of what's coming? What could we do? Is there anything we could do to make them afraid of us?
[02:48:33] Unknown:
But Knowledge.
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Now That's what I'm gonna say. Game is because they
[02:48:39] Unknown:
it's been a confidence trick time and time again. What happens if a war comes along, it's a mister misdirection. All the time Yes. Misdirection, misdirection, misdirection. World War two Yeah. In my view is over usury. Why? Because Germany in 1933 abolished it. That's really what it's about. They could not be allowed to get away with it.
[02:49:01] Unknown:
That was it. Well, and they couldn't. Yeah. Hitler issued, interest free money. Right.
[02:49:08] Unknown:
That's a Why do you think he put 6,000,000 men back to work in three and a half years? Right. Yeah. And Saddam Hussein
[02:49:15] Unknown:
Saddam Hussein didn't issue he went back to the gold standard, and he, may he might have used, euros, but he refused to accept the Federal Reserve note for his oil. That's what that war was about.
[02:49:29] Unknown:
Yep. He was gonna switch over to euros or gold or something else or the Or or something. Yeah. Yeah. Or something. Yeah. It didn't matter. Whatever it was, it put their nose right out because they've got this pyramid of lies. You can't have anybody break out from it. They can't it's like the mafia. You can't leave it. Once you're in the central banking mob, the you're not gonna leave. They won't let you Yeah. Except in a box. Gaddafi actually put a gold backed currency, including gold itself.
[02:49:53] Unknown:
And how long did he last?
[02:49:56] Unknown:
I know. Yeah. This pack we know the pack it's how to stop that. How we what is it that stop that. And that I don't is it is it is it the case that everybody needs to be educated up to a point where they're on fire? I think that's part of it. Right. I still don't know whether that I don't know how to do that. I mean, but we've got the Internet. You go, yeah. It's just a it's a technical thing, but we never had something like this before. And, of course, it's now being used for sort of social networking, people telling you what color curtains they've got. Not that I'm not interested, mind. I I like a nice set of curtains as much as the next man, but it's not really top of the to do list is it? And and people's lives are full of guff. When you were saying, Eric, earlier that people are infantile, they've been infantilized, they absolutely have. They don't talk about this.
Why are you not talking about this?
[02:50:46] Unknown:
You probably got it in America. People that are completely obese walking around covered in piercings and tattoos. This is what we got over here. I mean, I was walking around the supermarket the other day, and I was thinking, is there something funny with me? I was looking at the women and I was thinking I was a bit getting a bit worried about myself. Most of the women you looked at were all that once beautiful but have uglified themselves with tattoos all over them. Right. Right. Or they're obese with tattoos and piercings all over the place. What is wrong with these people? And the reason is they're all demoralized.
Totally demoralized. There's no employment. The country's going nowhere. It's that is the and they're destroying us from within. Yeah. And I wouldn't mind if if we got someone in, because we have to have a leader, sadly, but that change things, You would see people with tattoos disappearing. You would see people wanting to have them taken off. You wouldn't have piercings. You wouldn't have anything like that. And people would then start to take, pride in their appearance, which they don't do anymore. Very few people I mean, sometimes I wear a suit. When I'm going out, I'm walking around wearing a suit, and I've noticed people treat me very differently when I'm wearing a suit.
I said, yes, sir. I thank you, sir. And you think, why is this?
[02:52:12] Unknown:
Why is this? Because they think you're rich. They think they think you're a rough child.
[02:52:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I've got fucked up, you know. But this is the thing. It's it's a very strange thing. People Right. You know, clothes maketh man and woman. We've lost self respect. And that's I'm not a snob. Don't get me wrong. I'm not snobbish, but it's self respect.
[02:52:32] Unknown:
No. Be a snob. It's good. Yeah. Be elite. Be elitist in your thinking. Talk about high standards in everything. It's absolutely the only way to go. I mean I think this drop in standards is a direct result of the demoralization of people through this hidden force that they can't detect because they've not been given the intellectual understanding to see it because they're not taught it in school. Like we were saying, it would be compulsory teaching about banking and interest to 11 year olds and above. I would make it compulsory. Yeah. And That's not hard to understand. It's not.
It's not. We're here to inform you that your mother and father and all your forefathers have all been robbed blind. And we're teaching you this so that you can become the first generation that isn't, so that you can stand up to these people and strip them of their power. Their power is that you consent to something that you don't understand and we're going to explain it to you. Once you understand it, you will not consent to this ever again and we have to find this huge body of people. They only need to be modestly educated. You're being thieved from this that and the other. It's like with my next door neighbors when he said well we could issue our own money. I said, why not? I said, I'll tell you why not because I'll end up in prison. Right? They'll come and use force against me. So I'm not intending to do that. But we can talk about the idea without doing it and it's the it's the transmission of the idea that we have to find more effective ways of of getting it across. I've mentioned here before, you know, whatever sort of areas of of deeper knowledge that we have in these different areas law, banking, whatever, history and this that and the other We're the sorts of people that wanna absorb this and keep chewing through it and digesting it because it keeps us sane, but it's not very useful to transmit that to the layman. We we need, like I was saying, it's almost like we need to take time off and put our marketing hats on every now and again and go, how do I dress this up as a meme? And then what is the call to action? That's the thing. What is it that we want them to do? I'm just gonna jump to the end of this document, by the way.
We only got through to page eight. There's another sort of 12 pages. It's all cracking stuff, but I wanna read you something right at the end because it's a plan of action at the end of it. Okay. Okay? Which is quite interesting. Union clubs, it says. This is about it. This organization shall be known as the Union Labor Club. This is the way it phrased it. Art article two, purposes. The objects of this club shall be to agitate, educate, and propagate the measures of public policy embraced in the Union Labor platform. Two, to diffuse such papers, documents, and literature among the people as shall lead to a clear understanding of the ways and means to be used in the advancement of our social and intellectual life.
Three, to diminish the antagonism between capital and labor and to secure to each man and woman equal rights and a just share of life's necessities. Four, to discourage all attempts to hamper the liberty of industry. Five, to acquire the power to combat any special monopoly, I. E. BlackRock, which may threaten our industrial interests whether in legislation, transportation, commerce, or exchange. Article three, membership. It's not very long this. I've nearly finished it. Any person may become a member of this club by subscribing to this constitution and platform. Article four, officers.
The officers of this club shall be a president, vice president, secretary, and treasurer, and such other officers as the bylaws may provide for, all of whose duties shall be prescribed by the bylaws of this club. Article five, and this is the end of it, order of business. Eight points. One, call to order. Two, reading minutes of the last meeting. Three, reports of special and standing committees. Four, unfinished business. Five, admission of new members, six, new business, essays, debates, and discussions, seven, the good of the cause, eight, adjournment.
A structure like that is required. We need a structured approach as a military order. Mhmm. We need to view ourselves as a military order, as Eric said, fighting a war. We are frontline soldiers in this. We are the ones that stand to benefit from victory in this war against the banks because it's a war and, it's gonna require all of these things. Of course, they didn't have the internet back then so we have to say that the tools of communication that we have available are considerably far more powerful than they had back then. You'd need money to print things. People didn't have any money to do that. We don't need too much money to start gobbing off to potentially huge numbers of people and that's it's about scale. I think it's absolutely about scale. Better for a lot of people to know just a little and to be enraged than a few to know everything but be powerless to actually influence everybody else. That's that's my take on it today, this Thursday. It might say something slightly different next Thursday, but at the moment, I think that that's kind of the way to go. Look, that's quite good that in bit on that document, wasn't it? I quite like that.
[02:57:25] Unknown:
Well, actually, that's the way the local Republican committee operates. Yeah. But, yeah. But, I am planning on running for office. And, as a Ron Paul style Republican, we'll see how far this goes.
[02:57:40] Unknown:
Okay. So That's good. Is that down there in Arkansas? Where you gonna be? In Arkansas.
[02:57:45] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very the conservatives down here are very savvy economically and politically, but you you can't there's one subject you can't broach. Right? Yeah. So yeah. But, yeah. And, well, let me put it this way. The, what's that song? I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do. That's kinda where I'm at right now. So Yeah. But we're trying. Maybe somebody will come up with an inspiration. Maybe God will will inspire somebody to figure out a way to,
[02:58:21] Unknown:
cut them off at the knees. That is the banker Maybe we have to do maybe, Eli, we should all at least order a whip and, Yeah. Here we go. And followed and followed Christ's example. Get down to the stock exchange, Eric, and get about 5,000 of us. As they're going in on the Central Bank of England, we whip
[02:58:38] Unknown:
them. And, you know, it's a symbol it's a symbolic thing. I'm sorry to say something. Do you actually do you think that massacres should get a fair crack at the whip?
[02:58:49] Unknown:
I don't know. It's quite a conundrum, that one, isn't it? Gentlemen, it's been absolutely brilliant tonight. There's the outro music. Eli, wonderful to have you on again. I've I've really enjoyed this. Thanks, Eric. We're gonna we're gonna have a return gig, Eli. We've got to come back even if it's not this theme, it may well be because I can't get away from it. I still see it as the nub of pragmatic challenges. There are many other aspects to it. But this has been a brilliant, brilliant coverage. The document was great. Yet again, everybody out there, if you've been listening to the show and you want the document, the link is on paulenglishlive.com at the bottom of the page. Worth getting a copy even if you don't feel up to reading it today. Just get it and stock it in your Christmas stocking or whatever. We will be back again saying it. Yeah, fantastic. We'll be back again same time next to it. Interest free money, yes please, and own our own bank. That's what's what's needed. Amen. Brilliant. Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Eli. Yes. Bye, everyone. See you all next week. Bye, Paul. Yeah, everybody.
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Bye.
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Introduction and Weather Chat
Guest Introduction: Eli James
Discussion on the Hazard Circular
The Greenback and Financial Manipulation
Usury and Historical Context
Modern Banking Critique
Political Commentary and Humor
Eli James Joins the Discussion
The Civil War and Banking Interests
Lincoln and the Greenback Policy
Post-Civil War Financial Policies
Modern Economic Challenges
Call to Action: Financial Education