In this lively episode, host Paul English navigates through a myriad of topics, from the technical hiccups of live radio to the intricacies of political and legal systems. The show kicks off with a humorous recount of technical difficulties, setting the stage for a discussion on the Magna Carta and its relevance today. Paul is joined by Eric and later Roger Sales, who delve into the complexities of voluntary servitude and the historical context of feudal systems. The conversation touches on the manipulation of language in legal contexts and the importance of understanding one's rights and status.
Roger Sales brings a wealth of knowledge, discussing the intricacies of the U.S. tax system and the concept of voluntary servitude. He explains how historical systems of control have evolved into modern-day legal frameworks, emphasizing the importance of understanding legal definitions and statuses. The episode is rich with historical references, including the Norman Conquest and the Magna Carta, and explores the impact of these events on contemporary legal and political systems. The discussion is both informative and engaging, offering listeners a deep dive into the often-overlooked aspects of law and governance.
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[00:02:16] Unknown:
Well hi everyone, good evening and welcome. It is, what is it? It's Thursday, June 2025, and I'm having a technical trousers round my ankles start to the show. You'll be very pleased to know about that. I'll tell you in a moment. Here's the music. Welcome to the show, episode 91. There are there are beads of perspiration pouring down my forehead. Not really. We've just had we anyway, welcome to the show. Let me just do the old things. You listen to Paul English live here on Thursday. It's episode 91. I hope it is. It's, it's not looking so promising right now. What day is it? June 2025.
Roger Sales, who couldn't make it last week, is probably gonna make it this week in about an hour's time. Should be joining us to talk about things, in spite of all the wonderful sort of changes that we've had, recently. So I use a certain sort of studio. We'll start off with a few technical things because we haven't done this for some time. And, the studio that we use just collapsed about thirty five minutes ago. I don't know what the word collapsed means here, but basically it said go away. And, I have no idea for why. No idea at all for why. It's been a I was gonna have loads of material prepared, but I just wanna talk about the fact that the studio doesn't work really. Anyway, that's gonna be really that's gonna be quite boring, isn't it? Oh, the joys of live radio. And there I was feeling all cocky that things are gonna work so well. So this is just another little thing down in the to do book that we're gonna have to look at finding another platform, really, to hold the studio in because, can't be doing with this. Very, very odd, though. I've been using it all day. Anyway, hope you're all well. It was an interesting show last week. Of course, we're a little bit closer to Magna Carta now, the actual date.
And there'll probably be a bit of, a bit of the old Magna Carta y going on in in this show today, because when Roger shows up, as I said, in about an hour's time, hopefully, we'll be talking about things like status and a few other things with regards to the law. I wanna thank everybody as well that's been putting comments in on Rumble and YouTube. YouTube in particular. Look at me. Hey. What a tart. What a radio tart I am. So, we seem to be holding our own on YouTube. At least we've still got the, we still got the channel there, which is great.
And, quite a few good comments in, from last week. It's growing okay. The the, the the great challenge of putting these things on is, is getting the shows to grow. But I hope you've all had a cracking week. I haven't even had a chance to even look into things just yet. I haven't even loaded the chat rooms up because we've just, as I said, I just had a this happened about fifteen minutes before we were due to go live, and there I was having my cup of tea thinking everything's gonna be great. Press the button. Blank screen.
Never happened to me before. I guess there's always a first time anyway. I am joined I hope I'm joined anyway by Eric this evening. Eric's actually in our newfangled last minute studio put together literally about ten minutes ago. And, Eric, I just wondered if you were there. You're actually currently on mute. Let me demuterize you.
[00:06:44] Unknown:
I'm I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah. We can hear you. Oh, that's good. Yippee. I could hear you loud and clear. Am am I suffering from out of sync? Because as I was saying earlier, all that's good. Because I've been watching a few of these dodgy forum films, and that's where your lips move and your voice comes out about three seconds later. So I was suffering from out of sync. You know? But I'm alright now. Oh, great. I feel calm now. Oh, that's good. It's all working. And, by the way, have you noticed the weather forecast has said it's hot and humid. No. It isn't. It's cool.
[00:07:21] Unknown:
It's it's not it's not hot and humid at all. It's Well, I think we're all gonna die. According to the weather of things I saw today, Eric, we're all gonna die tomorrow.
[00:07:28] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. And it's gonna cause food shortages, and the end of the world as we know it. Mhmm. That'll be tomorrow, and then next week, things are going as normal. So there we go. So, bit of fear porn there. But I love it. Don't you love a bit of fear porn? They said they said that Yorkshire Yorkshire, right, where I come from,
[00:07:49] Unknown:
is suffering a drought, whatever that means. I saw someone put this up on the on the BBC thing. So or on some YouTube channel, Yorkshire suffering a drought. Some wag had written, can't drink water. We'll just have to drink beer then. So, I mean, that is the appropriate response, isn't it? Certainly seems to me that is the appropriate response. I think that is. And,
[00:08:11] Unknown:
yes. It's, yes. It's rather an interesting week. I had a few experience, interesting experiences yesterday, which I found out quite a bit. Now Did you? Oh, yes. Yes. Have you noticed that there's an increase in, mental illness? People wandering around talking to themselves and things like that.
[00:08:35] Unknown:
You're talking about me? Well, I was talking about myself, actually. I I talk to myself. Me too. No. I bumped it's funny you should say that. I went out I went out for my evening Paseo, my my Spanish walk last night. Constitution. I walked like, Yeah. My evening constitutional. Yes. And I bumped into some good friends along the way, and we had a good little chinwag, which was quite nice. And they said, where are you off? I said, I'm off walking. And they said and they asked me where I was going. I told them, oh, that's quite a way. I said, you know, because I I think I've mentioned before, I walked through these sort of fields full of golden wheat or whatever it is. I'm not very good with crops, but it's full of crops, and they're looking quite healthy. And I'm all alone. And I say, yeah. I go there because I can talk to myself, and I do out loud, quite loud, but no one can hear. And I keep on thinking everybody said, what do they say? Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness, and the second sign is actually listening to it. But I don't agree with any of that.
I sometimes I'm working out thoughts and ideas, and I sometimes need to say them. I mean, I'm not belting it always. Not as if you can hear it all over the district. But in a cornfield at 08:30, 09:00 at night, fine. I didn't I didn't actually get back home till 10:00 and it was still light. It was just thrilling for me. I I I knocked on the door at ten, and dusk was just arriving. I thought, isn't this wonderful? It really is. It's absolutely marvelous. So Oh, it's please tell me more about I I love it. Tell me more about the mental illness of other people because because I'm Well not gonna disagree probably. Very quickly,
[00:10:04] Unknown:
I'll be speaking to this. America, said to Cuba many years ago that any Cuban that wants to come to Miami can. And Castro thought, that's a good idea. Yep. So what he did, he said, yes. Certainly. And he emptied his prisons, his mental institutions, and people that, you know, have got problems. Yeah. And now Miami is the well, I think it's the crime capital one of the crime capitals.
[00:10:40] Unknown:
I got my words muddled up there. Crime capital. I like the it's the crime the crime capital will is fine by me, Eric. That's right. Crime capital of America.
[00:10:50] Unknown:
And Yeah. Apparently, third world countries are doing the same to Europe and The United Kingdom. That is we are saying, you know, people could come here. At least there'll be world dictators thinking, this is a good idea. We can empty our prisons. We can get rid of our mentally ill, which is costing us money, and send them all to Europe. And this is why we are seeing many people from overseas that are not not sane. And then we get knifings and things like that. People that should be in a maximum security, mental asylum, wandering our streets.
And I saw a lot of my
[00:11:29] Unknown:
Somebody listening to you say that could be mistaken for think that you're you're referring to the people that attend the houses of parliament. I I tend to think you are including those people. Yes. I are, actually.
[00:11:41] Unknown:
Because when you think about it, I I look at it from a third world point of view. It's a logical thing to do, isn't it? Because Mhmm. People in lunatic asylums cost money. You can send them somewhere else, you save a lot of money, haven't you? That's exactly what they're doing. You know? So, yes. But I I agree with you about the houses of parliament. Yes. Kierstom, he looks as if he's had something up his nose a lot. I think he likes flour, doesn't he? He's had some I'm very I'm very innocent. I think his flour is just up his nose. But if you notice somebody's behind, Rachel of the accounts department, and he's sitting and he's going he's in a kind of well, his eyes are going all the way around. He looks as if he's just been sort of having a bit of sniffing of something, doesn't he? Maybe he's got a bad cold. His, you know, his nose is running. Who knows?
But, you know I mean, there is something
[00:12:38] Unknown:
very strange about his so called communication posture Yeah. Facially, orally, and everything. And when he was asked about this, this is all he could say. I I I mean, that's that's that's from a recent interview. And, I know we I know he was talking like that last week. And when he was he was asked about that performance, all he could say was
[00:13:10] Unknown:
But he he always got that expression as if someone's put an umbrella up his backside, opened it and pulled it back down again, isn't he? So quite surprised and sort of, not quite with it. You know? Yeah. There's Did he enjoy it or not?
[00:13:25] Unknown:
I don't know. I don't know. You know, we've we've talked on here about, everything, really apart from ballet. I don't really wanna talk about ballet this evening, if ever, to be quiet, because I don't know anything about it. But There's a dirty joke coming up about that actually. Oh, I'm glad I could feed your imaginations and disappear Seriously. To bring the smuts into the show. I have a smutty ballet gag, and it really is a smutty one. I couldn't actually say it on this show because it's a a family entertainment show, so I could not possibly say it. But you may be able to say it after the watershed if we're manly enough to take it, which means after 10:00. Okay? But in the first two hours, we've got to talk like proper British gentlemen, whatever that might mean.
[00:14:08] Unknown:
So if you want the Bali joke, anybody, please say, and, I'll crack it, you know. It is, a bit smutty, I have to admit.
[00:14:20] Unknown:
Okay. Right. Well, I'll just protect my ears if that's gonna come up. I don't know whether it's gonna be Or maybe tomorrow. Show. No. After 10:00, I'm not gonna do it now. I know. It's too late. Worried now. I won't be able to think straight for the next hour and three quarters, bracing myself what might be coming up. It's not right. You know? You put me under a lot of pressure here. This is terrible. Have you so anyway, you know, obviously, we have spoken about, Nigel Farage, the man in the garage. Yes? Yes. Yes. Haven't we? Which is really where he needs to be. And, I don't know if you've seen what's been going in the last sort of twenty four hours, but it won't surprise you, of course. It's just absolutely remarkably always the same. The more things change, the more they stay the same. So, you know, obviously, a theme here this is not an original theme for this show. Everybody has been saying these sorts of things for donkey's years.
But, effectively, whenever political parties make promises, the the rule is they won't keep any of them. Not one. They won't keep any of them. And they will all be swept under the carpet with a new drama, like a war or something to distract you for three to five days until they can come out with come dancing 37 or whatever it is that everybody's gonna oh, let's forget about that. We'll see you on Monday. And then, of course, they forgot what they were thinking about the week before. It's very, very effective. Like I mentioned, I call it the great distract a thon, and it's been going on, I think, for literally hundreds of years. You just bombard the public with the next drama, and away they go, don't they? Anyway Yes. It I think it's I think we could look at what's been going on here politically and say, well, there probably is some truth to the rumour that, the conservatives are to be sort of chewed up by the media and sort of deposited in the bin of history for a while.
And reform is supposed to take the place of the main opposition party to to to the incumbents, the Labour party. And, maybe that's gonna be true, but they they just got rid of their shadow home secretary or whatever. I don't know. Somebody, Yousef. Not that I pay attention to these things. But they've replaced it with a guy called doctor something Bull, who has written in support of LGBT education for children at school. So that's to give you some idea of the measure of this creature. Yes. Right? So and, apparently, he was on GB News. I get I don't go directly to these sites. You just get them referenced, don't you, in tweets and all sorts of places like that.
And, there's an interview with him. I think it's either earlier today or yes probably yesterday, later on in yesterday, talking about the migrant thing. Okay? Mhmm. And, because it as you know, I don't think it is a migrant crisis. As I've said, it's a political traitor crisis that we've had for a long time. 100% spot on. Spot on. Okay. That that's that's really what it is. And and creatures without backbone or gumption, politic professional politicians are not statesmen. In other words, there's no way that they're ever gonna fall on their sword because they haven't got one. And then even if they did, they wouldn't know how to use it. These are just the lowest of the low. There's no two ways about it because they're professional liars and wouldn't know how to survive without doing it. Anyway, apparently, in this interview, and I got the clip somewhere, but I couldn't dig it up due to my sort of technical burnout there fifteen minutes before time.
He said that this country is built on immigration. I saw that. Yeah. Did you see it? Yeah. I mean, it's what can you say about a statement like that? Well I say this qualifies him to be sectioned off a psychiatric treatment.
[00:17:52] Unknown:
It's just a case of treatment. Yes. Yes. It is. In fact, my sick bag wasn't big enough. I needed a dustbin after hearing that. I mean Yeah. It it it just turned me. And it that if that doesn't show people, that's controlled opposition. I don't know what does. Because that to me, it Farage to me, although I have no evidence of it, and I'm not making any accusation as such, it look. It has the hallmarks of people's being paid or paid off from somewhere. Where I don't know. But I cannot accuse because I haven't got the evidence, but it just has the hallmarks of it. Let's put it that way.
[00:18:29] Unknown:
I just you know, what what is the lesson here? For people like you and me, there isn't a lesson to be learned. We just had everything that we observed, you know, reinforced again the ten thousandth time. But anybody not that I expect we've got too many people listening here on Rumble and YouTube who do vote. If you do, it's a filthy habit, and you've got to stop it. It's really filthy. It's a disgusting habit. Because what it does is it psychologically says, I've just participated in doc in democracy, and therefore, the outcome of the nation might be somewhat improved. And this is a complete self deceptive lie. I'm sure most of you are beyond all that kind of stuff. But maybe I can say things in a particular way that you can use to hurl at those buffoons around you that still insist on doing this completely childish thing of voting. It's absolute madness.
And Farage, of course, is abs as a leader of a political party, utterly useless. As a bloke to go out and have a pint with and a laugh, great. Count me in. I think that'd be good fun. I won't mind teasing him and everything. That's what he's fit for. That's all he's fit for, that man. He's a used car salesman. To me, he he should be selling secondhand dodgy Jaguars up the garage. Perfect, hello. Yeah. Hello, John. Want a new motor? That's it.
[00:19:39] Unknown:
He is, who is that bloke, Minder? Oh, he's the George Karl. Karl. George Karl. He would be perfect in that role. You know? Got so he that is Farage to a tee. He's in the wrong profession. He should be selling motors. That's what he should be doing.
[00:19:56] Unknown:
And, It's it's a desperately tragic thing that every time I write a little limerick. How about this? About him. Yeah. This is sad. Because I sometimes sit around, you know? Yeah. Biting my teeth. A political type name of Farridge was prone to glug beer in his garage. He liked smoking too, which he did in the loo, and this virtually ruined his marriage. There you go.
[00:20:21] Unknown:
At least it I like it.
[00:20:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, excellent. I like that one. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I just crank them out all the time. It's sad, really. Liberty rights is over pretty quickly. You only have to find five lines, and it makes you it forces you to actually just get on with the damn thing. So it's not Keats. I'll give you that. But, you know, it's the best I could do. I had a few beers. I hadn't actually, but, yeah. So, of course, he's very proud of the fact that he destroyed the BNP, isn't he? He's always banging on about that. So anybody that thinks that that party, the reform party, is going to deal responsibly like adults with this migrant issue, you're obviously buying into the self delusion. You're taking the self delusion tablets. I don't know what you think about that, Eric, but that's that's basically my view.
Now we have you in your gremlin. So, Eric, I've lost you for some reason. Well, never mind. It's all part of Life's Reach Tapestry. Let me just do a quick refresh here. Hey, you, though. Still here. I know. Hi, Paul. The a nice friendly voice in the in the ethers. Yes. But I can't hear him. Can you hear him?
[00:21:40] Unknown:
No. Well, we're waiting for him to come back. You know, I think, a little flower up the nose, I I think that's entirely likely because the whole lot of them sound like they've lost their biscuits.
[00:21:54] Unknown:
They do, actually. They do. They absolutely sound like that. It's, we we don't know what to make of them because there's not much tell you what, Eric. Why don't you just come out and come back in again? I have no idea what happened. Your all the signals here say that you should be tickety boo, but we can't hear you. Okay. Don't know what's happened. There's always something going on. We're gonna have to have a big technical session at some point outside of this because, although, normally, we've been reasonably tech tech problem free, Paul, haven't we? Famous last words. Fame famous last words. But there we go. But, yes, I think they do.
I mean, we just had a thing here. There's this woman called Rachel Reeves. I don't know why I'm talking about politics so much. I suppose it's because it's so bizarre. It's surreal. It's it's literally every decision that they make is directly counterproductive to a happy nation that you only have to view them and say, well, whoever they're working for, obviously, not us. So why would you actually participate with them? But they are I think as I was mentioning earlier today when we were talking this afternoon briefly that not one of them, as far as I'm aware, any of the any of the bench as it were, any of the cabinet, these are the people that are very close to Keir Starmer. He he they ought to really be kept in a very large wooden cabinet and not left out, not let out. None of them have got any experience of business at all.
Right. None. They don't understand anything. And I don't know what the figures are. I'll find around. Maybe somebody in the chat. Hi to everybody in Rumble, by the way. Hi. Bench as it were. Any of the cabinets? Hang on just a piece of the people that are very close. There we go. There's always something going on here. If anybody, in any of the chats what what is this amount of money that Rachel Reeves has said she's about to spend? Is it £2,000,000,000,000 or some nonsense, or was it more than that? Yeah. Trillions, apparently.
[00:23:49] Unknown:
That that's that's crazy. Go ahead. The the most upsetting part of everything that they do, I mean, anybody with with the capacity for critical thinking can actually see how negative, what they do is to a happy country. But Mhmm. All of their sound bites say, oh, we're going to be doing this and it's going to be so wonderful and it's gonna be so beneficial to the people. And it's and it's just we can only do this because we live in a wonderful democracy, and, everywhere, everybody matters. And it's every it's also wonderful and and sunshiny and flowers everywhere.
And the stupid people that have no capacity for critical thought listen to the flowers and absolutely forget about the thorns.
[00:24:46] Unknown:
I know. It works all the time. It never stops working. I think that's the bit. You think you sort of, you know, I should imagine many people here. I've been on this trail. I don't know. Not necessarily quite recently. Probably reasonably seasoned in the tooth, you know, vintage researchers. Let's put it that way. It's a nice word, vintage. And I think, I know when I started off with all this stuff, and I think it's the same probably for everybody, you think, good grief. I've got this information. We have this counter information. It's verified from multiple sources. We can now see now we've got a a fuller picture. And I've I've labored naively, obviously, now in retrospect.
Although, I can't lose this because I think you still have to keep putting out no matter what you do. You think, well, I'll present this information to someone, a neophyte, whatever you wanna call them, a normal person. And something and they'll and they'll get curious about it, but they don't. Very, very few. They just reject it. It's extremely odd to me. And what that tells me is that they were probably so compliant at school. They never really got into putting on the questioning trousers. The trousers that you have to put on, they got the question marks all over, where you go, I don't know about that. I'm not saying you're a liar. It's just that right now, you haven't said enough to convince me I need to go off and do my own stuff. And it's this acceptance, this blithe acceptance of authoritarian communications that's led people to develop some kind of behavioral habit that that means, I suppose, it's almost virtually impossible to get them to correct their thinking.
It's a terrible thing for me to say. I don't but it feels like that.
[00:26:21] Unknown:
You know, that's by design. Right? I mean, they're taught from a very early age. You sit down, you remain quiet, you absorb everything that the teacher is saying, you absorb everything that's in your textbook that you're reading. If you want to ask a question, you have to raise your hand to get permission to raise your hand. If your car breaks down, you have to consult a professional. You have to take it to the mechanic. If you need your taxes done and you can't figure it out, you have to go to the certified public account accountant or the tax guy. People have been trained from kindergarten, from the very, very first grade that they ever entered in school to look to an authority and to look for a professional to decide what is or isn't correct.
Trust the science. Go to the doctor. Go to the dentist. Go to your CPA. It's Mhmm. Training.
[00:27:26] Unknown:
I know. I know. And and I suppose those of us that question that all the time can't understand why it's actually taken root with everybody unless you take into account that they didn't question much of it at all and never got into the habit. I think I mentioned to you earlier today when we're having that brief chat. I I bumped into someone today on my little walks and had an extremely unproductive communication with them. And I was just thinking about it even recently. Just before the show, I was mentioning a lot of things. And extremely I mean, I quite like this person. I don't know them that well, but they're fine and decent. I'm not getting away with any sort of nasty views or anything like that. I'm just observing what actually happened in the exchange.
And what really happened was that I was providing information that's at least worthy of a question. But the sense I got was that the recipient of my communication didn't think that any of what I was saying was going to affect him. It was as if I was talking about something academic, as if it was, you know, just like trying to provoke a different line of thinking purely for the sake of it. One of the companies got, well, you'll have a hard time convincing people of that. What like you. It's as if people become impersonally detached. Eric, are you back with us, by the way? I hear a certain sort of microphone rumbling in the background. Yes. Yes. I'm just adjusting my microphone. Can you hear me?
[00:28:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We can hear you fine. Yeah. Yeah. How are your adjustments going? Are they good? The adjustments are alright. I'm quick it's creaking a bit, and I got my technical trousers on. So, you know, it should be okay. And, I was gonna say about Feralge. Do you think that that airplane accident he had might have been a little bit of a warning saying if you step out of out of, track a bit too much, there might be another one?
[00:29:17] Unknown:
So, you know What are we supposed to think? I I'm tending to your line of thinking. You know, we don't have to get sort of we can't prove any of that. No. I can prove it. He's we can't prove it, but he seems to have quite a cushy sort of life. Maybe he well deserves it as a city boy and all that kind of stuff. And it's got it's got a certain charm up to a point, but I suspect that that charm's rapidly disappearing. They they will do literally anything at all to avoid this discussion about, migrants, which is a direct result of the political traitor crisis that we've got. Right. Because that's really as soon as they go into it, this is the next port of call on the line of logic. Well, who enabled this? Who is sustaining it? Who is using drippy language to say, we can't do anything about it? All of and they they think, well, if we say that 5,000 times, people really will think we can't do anything about it. And, unfortunately, tragically, that tends to be the case.
People, oh, well, we can't do anything about it. And that was kind of the response I was getting today when I was talking to this individual as if we we can't do anything about it. And I'm thinking, well, with that sort of thinking, you're absolutely gonna be proved right.
[00:30:28] Unknown:
And I tell you the other one they come out with, my my neighbor comes out with this, and it really infuriates me. Well, we've got to have these people over here because the English are too lazy to work. Mhmm. Yeah. And that is repeating what the social engineers want that person to repeat. That's a kind of negativity. And I say, don't you realize you've been brainwashed into saying that? Woah. My friend runs a business and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all that sort of stuff. You know, it's always my friend runs a business and couldn't get English people to work. Yeah. But the thing is, what you got to look at, you walk around any town, and you see how demoralized people are.
If people were not demoralized, and we had something positive to work towards, oh, you would see things turning around then. But, no, we've been deliberately demoralized
[00:31:18] Unknown:
because Well, the yeah. The very policy, Eric, that results in them putting out this idea that English and British people don't wanna work is a direct result of them bringing other people in. How can you, you know, you can't improve your own home when you haven't got any decision making over who's gonna live in it. Why would you even bother? The this is it's it's a massive blow. There's probably a better word than blow, but it's a massive demoralizing thing. You go, well, for hundreds of years, this little island has defended its border and has been helped considerably, obviously, by the sea. There's no two ways about it. I mean, in in older history, this made it a haven for all the crooks of Europe. They would come over here and just hang out in England and stay away from, you know, all the people after trying to get so we became a haven, certainly London, you know, in many regards, for all sorts of criminals that were running away from this, that, and the other, because water was a considerably greater barrier four or five hundred years ago than it is now, you know, courtesy of airplanes, even if they do crash in India or wherever it is, and they do crash from time to time. But you get my drift. And I think, when this is happening, it's absolutely bizarre. Nobody even points it out. There there was never any anything like this until after World War two. And then it's been ramped up at such a speed.
You've had a continual, as you pointed out, onslaught of social engineering language to get people adjusted and to a way of life that is no way of life at all. We've got literally every area mismanaged by people who are seeking to put, and this is being kind to them, putting a sticking plaster on on a a geyser of blood that's running out. Oh, if we just do this little bit here, that'll fix it. No. No. It won't. And they cannot fix it because they cannot talk about the things that need to be fixed. It's literally that. They can't talk about it. You know, Dominic Cummings, you remember or you've heard of him? He's kind of an enforcer. Was it in the verb I don't know. For, one of the recent Tory bods or whatever. Yeah.
There was a thing today earlier on. Yet again, I'm sorry. I can't I've lost most of my clips with my little doodad. But, it was about two or three minutes long, and he was talking about the suppression of information around the management of the whole COVID thing, and that is totally intentional. He said two or three really excellent things, actually. What whatever you may think about him in other regards, I don't have a a broad opinion about him. I don't know enough of him. I know that he was sort of like the rottweiler, or at least this is the way he was portrayed in the press. Does that mean anything? He didn't come across like that at all. But, he was just talking about the institute basically, institutional lying that takes place. They call it when they take documents redacted. It means they cross bits out that you're not supposed to know. That's called lying.
They're liars. And we can't use plain simple language like that because it's offensive. Of course, it's offensive. It's gonna actually get us towards the point of the truth. So this is where the courageous voices are gonna come from, and they're only gonna come, as I have often banged on about, from the pleasant peasants. Hello, pleasant peasants, fellow pleasant peasants out there. It can't come from anywhere else because these people are continually, stuck by their addiction to getting paid. They've been brought in, and I think your observation about Farage is absolutely true. I mean, I you know, I've often thought that. I mean, I don't know when it was. It's about ten or fifteen years ago, isn't it, now that the all this stuff happened for him? But since then, they sort of wheel him out. So reform is literally another Trojan horse.
It promises so much. They will go back on everything. And this guy, whatever his name is, Bull or whatever, I can't remember, their new shadow home secretary, saying these things yesterday just tells you everything. They have no intention of doing anything about it because the people in charge of the top people in charge of that party won't let them do it. And, those people in charge, broadly speaking, as I often bang on, is loosely phrased the money power because those are the ones that can threaten any nation's economy by collapsing markets and things worldwide, causing it to go under. And then we'll set we'll set the proletariat on you, they're saying. So our politicians are not even in a position to tell the truth because they've allowed themselves to become puppets of these people with this cunning master plan.
You know? So, it's a bit of a it's a bit of a puzzle. But but a good politician
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I didn't mean to cut in there, but a good politician is very good at telling people nothing. And I spoke to a lady once who went to, one of Tony Blair's speeches before he became prime min mincer. And she said, it's all full of hype, and it's like a Chinese meal. You fill up Yeah. And when you leave, you're hungry because and you think, well, what has he said? He hasn't really told you anything. And Farage has got that skill of rather telling people what they want to hear, but doing it in such a way that he hasn't really told them anything. So he sort of Mhmm. Comes in with a lot of hype. Well, you go, oh, yeah. Well, yes. Look look at these boats coming across the channel. Yes. It's terrible. But when you analyze what he says, it's hype. He's not exactly telling you anything.
Mhmm. He's very clever. And again, but he's telling people what they want to hear, but on the other hand, not telling them anything. But that's the skill of the politician. And oh, he's he's got it. I mean, he was I think he's just a blue eyed city boy blue eyed boy, and they think, oh, yeah. Put him in as a we'll choose him as another prime minister or whatever. So that is really what it's what it's about. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. I wouldn't trust any politician as far as I could throw him. They're paid liars, and all they are is puppets to the usury scammers, and that's it. And they, you know, the they say jump and for hours is where high.
And that's it, basically. And they're all, very much, black malleable. There's always something dark about them. Hey, guys. That's that's it. You know? Yeah. Paul. You're gonna say, Paul.
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Tripe they come out with. You know? You were, talking about them saying that the English people are too lazy, so you need immigrants. Well, they've done the same thing in The United States. This is really a global thing. This is a global program because everything that's talked about here is affecting in one way or another as a globe. Every single country, every single race, creed, and color, it's affecting everyone. And what they what they said that we need the immigrant support is because, they do the labor, the gardening, the grunt work, the landscaping. They do the things that Americans don't want to do.
So Americans can have higher paying jobs, more professional jobs. They can have professions. But then they institute AI. They bring in all kinds of things to eliminate the middle class jobs. Now the only thing we have is immigrants that are sitting here on welfare. They're not doing the labor jobs that they were brought in for anyway, and the middle class has no job because AI took it. So it's the same everywhere.
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Okay. Does anybody out there, by the way, have a have a handle on on the amount of money that this, Reeves lass has said she's gonna sling in or borrow or whatever. Is it hundreds of billions or is it a trillion? I I'm sure I saw a figure saying it was 1 to 2,000,000,000,000 or something stupid over the next four years. And, of course, every time I see things like that, I'm just going, oh, well, that's alright. You're gonna print your own money then.
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That's what they do.
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Why is Can we print our own? Yeah. I mean but really print our own. You see? I mean, this is I just feel as though we're involved in the political discourse to me is just all piss and wind because it's not addressing the fundamental fix. There's a there is a direct fix. It basically puts billionaires and trillionaires out of a job of plundering everybody's pockets. It reduces their power in the world. Of course, this is why they won't stop it. And as I said, the way that the way I would view it I don't know all the minute details, but I think it's just a matter of simple logic. They've got so much control over the other nations surrounding you. And if one nation tries to break away, they can effectively collapse your markets internationally and put you under pressure that way. What's needed, of course, is a political speech that addresses this, honestly.
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Not that we will ever get one. We'll we'll We're not gonna have a warfare. We Remember that stuff that they tried to use to destroy Germany, which is why Mhmm. Hitler went to war in the first place is because under economic tyranny, his people were starving. Yep. Economic warfare. That's all it is.
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And I'm sure that, you know, I was thinking about that starvation lark as well, which, of course, is hellish and vicious. But as we know, there's nothing really beyond these people. And I would imagine I don't think it's beyond the realms of imagination to think that certain political leaders that get a little bit too uppity about wanting to actually work for their people, they're threatened with that. Yes. I mean, we've got a situation over here now where farmers are being put under such pressure, and the whole thing is literally not sane.
For what reason? Well, it's obviously to feed the monster that wants to parasitize off of the whole system. It's not to actually address the root problem. Nobody can. It's as if the entire act is is a completely insane fiction. It's not held by engineers. It's not held by pragmatists. It's held by politicians and those that pay for them. I know I'm only stating the bleeding obvious here. But how can you possibly expect them to resolve anything when they're literally not working on resolving anything? They're just working on their next speech to create the impression that they're resolving something. But there's nothing really adds up. I mean, I had to go shopping the other day. And, I had about 15 things on my list. Eight of them weren't there. They're all really rather basic things. They will be next time. I'm not sort of doing missus outraged housewife of the home counties just yet.
But the price of the basket of goods is ludicrous. It's got really, really stupid, and and you see that everybody is gonna have to endure this because you've got no other options or very few within time frames. So it's the micromanagement of every single area of people's lives that's been used to crush and squeeze the life out of things. And we can't really expect an answer from the political class, and we're certainly not gonna get a solution from reform because the guy that's in charge of of the home security department or whatever thinks that this country was built by migrants.
I mean, you're talking about people that have lost any sense of sanity. The tragic thing is, I suppose, that, you know, like we mentioned a bit earlier, if they repeat it 10,000 times in the newspapers for the next four years, people might come around to thinking it was true. They'll absorb it, particularly young people who've got no frame of reference because they're not taught history about who we really are. And they must know this. They must know. They say, look. We only need twenty five years. Let's just get into the school system, educate them in a mangled way, make sure they can't think too much, cut them off from their history. Don't let them see their culture on TV.
What their culture through the television programs, rewrite everything, put race mixing in all the adverts, tell them that it's all gonna be one big happy thing. And after twenty five years, no matter who it is, we will have got 70 or 80% of them, and that'll be enough. The troublemakers, the 10 or 20% that can still think they will never get any power, we'll let them bumble along to create the impression of a free democracy, but their arguments will never come to anything because we'll make sure that they don't. Oh, that sounds fun, didn't it? I'm full of joy tonight.
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Bloody hell. Well, I think the big the big problem I mean, for example, Paul, I actually sent to, Hertfordshire council can County Council because they're going to put a street lamp or they're going to, there's a street lamp that's gone on the wee wees, on the pier, so to speak, and it's a bit dangerous. They're gonna take it out and put another one in. Okay? Simple. And they said, could you please remove your vehicles from this area? Well, my house, I own the road up to the curb opposite. I'm responsible. It says it's a private road. Mhmm.
And the square that they said was the works area, not only comes up my drive, but over into the building line, which has obviously been done by the office junior, which is wrong. Yep. And I sent a letter, and ex you know, explained to them that that was the problem. I said, you know, dear sir or madam, further to your missive, proposed work zone outlined in green on the Cree plan incorporates approximately two thirds of private drives, an area infringing infringing into the building line of my property, and I'll put properties down, within your proposed works area. And I've carried on. I can't see any reason for, work access to drives and front gardens of said properties.
Please clarify. And I actually got this back. Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of the information you have received. Now this is the letter they sent to us. Okay? Right. And to everybody up to date. But I can advise that works are for the street lamp. Yes. I know that already. Mhmm. If I could be of further assistance, please let me know as you give it a name. And do you know what our job title is? Customer interaction officer. Brackets, highways, customer journey, growth Yeah. And environmental growth and environment, Hertfordshire County Council. What the bloody interaction officer.
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Oh, I like this. That's a nice title. Isn't it? Have you gone into customer journey? Have you gone into a fucking hall?
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Well, it's good to have. And I was wondering whether it's a center and say, as you're a customer journey officer, can I go and see my mate in Worthing for a charge? Can you pay for a, you know? Yeah. For for a for a a You need a customer interaction officer. For a customer interaction. No. A customer journey. Or is it only in Hertfordshire? What is the customer journey? What title is that? What what are you on my customer journey? Cool. What the bloody hell? I don't want So, I would not Hertfordshire is guided by our rise values.
What is a rise value when it's out?
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I don't know, Eric. They're all mad. They're not well. Well They're not well. The the language is just simply
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useless.
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Do you know what it's called? These huge highfalutin titles that they give themselves. Yeah. Customer interaction officer.
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On your customer journey. And, apparently, RISE stands for respect they mean. Respect, integrity, service, and excellence.
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The more adjectives you see, the more you're in the presence of bullshit. Don't you think? These huge descriptive titles and everything. It's just sort of like, really? I like the old letter, though. You're very good. You we we wanted to employ you to write those sorts of formally worded and phrased things in sort of official speak. They love all that kind of stuff, don't they? That was my job, actually. So I an architect, Jack. It's all coming out now, Eric. It's all
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I used to go for the, I used to write letters to the contractors, you see. And the fact of the matter fact of the matter is is that this is goes on to another situation. Our ancestors knew that square buildings create psychological problems, Whereas curvature in buildings, you look at these beautiful build elderly buildings that are curved, create a form of, pleasantness and calmness in the mind. And they found out that where there's square buildings where there's lack of trees, the incidence of violence and antisocial behavior goes through the roof. It's all to do with the subconscious.
So that's another subject to look into. But this is what's getting me, is that people are being employed by these strange titles. You're quite correct. They are mentally ill. And also, did you know that your local council now, we do not have used to have a department, that dealt with building regulations. Did you know that it's all privatized now? So soon, we're gonna have buildings with roofs falling in because it's all privatized. So they don't spend a send a building inspector out unless they really have to. So you could report something, and it won't come along because it is not cost effective.
So soon, you're gonna be finding there's a there's gonna be some building disasters, I fear, in the not too distant future.
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Does Tent City loom large in our immediate future, Eric? What do you think? Yes. It does.
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Yes. It does. I'm sure it does. And, well, look at California. Look at places like that. And look at Paris. That's full of tents as well. And there's parts of London that's full of tents as well, apparently. I haven't seen it myself, but apparently there is. So interesting. We live in interesting times. And, look what's happening in Northern Ireland.
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Have you seen the yes. Yeah. Yeah. They're kicking off, aren't they? They're burning things down. They are. Yes. Yes.
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Yes. I mean, not that I'm sort of touting for that kind of thing, but it's obvious, you know, you know, you people do burn things down because a box a box of Swan Vester's is only about 10p, isn't it? Isn't it? Yeah. But soon you're gonna have to have an ID to buy a box of Swan Vester's, won't you? And that's what they do. They whenever this happens, they crank up the draconian draconian laws more. So they want us to go rioting because then they can imprison us even more.
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See? It's it's really yeah. You thought that really there's just a lot of people up and down the line with gumption, and there tends to be about one in every 10,000 or something that I've got any. It's, I do think it's this thing about avoiding confrontation. I think that's a key part of it. It starts really people obviously don't want confrontation. I include myself. No one really likes it. You can't see anything really thoroughly productive coming out of it. But when there are forces coming at you that are intent on confrontation or intent on just bullying you and it's that old adage, you know, you give them an inch, they take a mile. And this is what's happened with this gradual creep creep. Well, we'll allow a few people in. That's alright. Well, almond is enough. Well, you can let a few more in. Okay. Can they do this? Yeah. They can do that. You know, I was in my conversation today, I mentioned this before, of course, but repetition is the key to all of these things. Who gave these people the vote?
I'm sorry. I it's just bizarre. So you bring people who are not part of your culture. Let's go with their line. You bring them into your nation or you allow it. You enable it. You actually, of course, are encouraging it and and making it happen is the actual truth of it. And you bring them in because the the story the first story you give is that this is going to improve our country in some way. Not that anybody understands that, but so be it. Okay? And yet, the more of these people that you bring in, it's no longer can be the nation because the whole thing that has to be denied is race in the sense that a culture is directly attributable to and springs out of homogeneous races. That's why they're distinct. That's why they're actually interesting or used to be. And, you know, the the sort of the the corporatization of the Earth, I know that they want to sort of ban air flights and everything, but but there'll be no reason to get on an airplane. I mean, apart from the fact that they crash. But there'll be no reason to get on one because wherever you go, it'll be exactly the same as the place that you left. Why would you go?
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Well, it's like going going to South Africa to see Zulus, and you say, well, I wanna see their tribal dancing and all that. And they say, I'm sorry. Because of multiculturalism, you see, Highland jig and people in in in kilts. You think, well, why should I go all the way to South Africa? I wanna go up the road about 300 miles to Scotland and see it there. And this is what this is this is the thing. But what that character said, in Faraj's party to me, is metaphorically urinating on our ancestors' graves. Because what they're saying is that our ancestors went up to up to it, and this is why we've got to get people in. It's it's absolutely and it's absolutely disgusting. But what I've noticed I mean, I've been dealing with the local council, over building matters, and I don't want to sound, shall we say, conceited in saying this. Once upon a time, you speak to somebody that had a a modicum of common sense.
You now have to deal with a kind of customer service attitude of people that are not only mentally ill, but are just stupid. Absolutely pig ignorant and stupid. And this is these are supposed to be pedaling they're supposed to be dealing with the, like, spill building inspectors who who haven't got a clue. What? And they're asking What? They said, what? As as if they're as as dumb as ditch water. How did they get into that position? How on earth did they get into such positions?
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Unbelievable. There's gotta be this creep creep of this insidious, let's call it an ideology, this defective thing that has crept into a whole generation of middle management. And and I see that as a result of what's happened in the in the so called universities, which as far as I'm concerned, don't really exist except in name only. Not in in terms of the traditional sense of what a university was, which was supposed to be a specialist learning space for people with particularly useful, if not specialized intellectual aptitudes.
It's not about that now, is it? It's I mean, the prime reason has been get get as many in as possible so that we can lie about the unemployment figures. So they get they ramp all that up. That but it's primarily a sort of cultural Marxist training ground,
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you know, to use the advantages. What exactly do we manufacture in this country? I mean, once upon a time, well, for a perfect example, I've got a Singer sewing machine, which I inherited from my parents. And I looked up the, reference the, model number on it, and it was built in 1941 in Scotland. I think it was in Glasgow. And Mhmm. Singer had this huge factory where they built these fantastic sewing machines. Yeah. That's all gone. Totally gone. Company, isn't it? Isn't Singer American? Yes. It was American. Yes. Yes. And they spread and there was a German they were made in Germany as well, and they were they are absolutely works of art.
Beautifully made. That level of engineering, I don't think you could ever get a game. That is a one off. It is marvelous. But
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I suppose people come from the outside looking in, even just catching that little clip of you saying that, right, would probably think, well, there's a couple of old farts talking about days that have gone by, and we don't even need any of that. But I don't think it's it's not about the sewing machine. It's not. Yeah. It's not about I mean, you were mentioning them then, so you have to illustrate it with something, but it's not really about the sewing machines. It's just another one of these symptoms of everything in be everything becoming less human, less connected, more corporate, more large scale.
I know that, when I was looking at, you know, I was reading from that document the other week about the new chartists and this, that, and the other. And there was quite a lot of thinkers around the time. One guy who's now, of course, has completely jumped out of my head right now. I'm sorry about that, everyone. Argued against he's from Newcastle, actually. Very tough life, but, had very passionate about all these sorts of things. He argued against what he called gigantism in corporations, and I'm very much with him. This and it's all to do with the enabling of, you have to say, usury.
I know it always comes back to this, but it's the case that the financial power is able to effectively support some enterprises, which it likes because it's its pals. This has taken hundreds of years, if not thousands of years, and to put down others that it doesn't. I've mentioned before, you know, if you have a there's a thing to do with the states in the late eighteen hundreds where the banks loan the big banks in the Northern States, their loan books were drying up because nobody needed to borrow any money because they were actually being very they just were very profitable. They're everybody just had plenty. It was just working. You know? It's how you imagine it to work.
So, what happens today, you wanna expand your plant, the bank absolutely expects, and you will go and borrow money from them at interest. But what was happening back then is that people say with a business in Baltimore or whatever or somewhere on the East Coast, if they wanted to over open somewhere up in California, three and a half, 4,000 miles away, if my geography is roughly correct, did not go and borrow the money because they'd made so much profit and run their business so sensibly. And this is what happens when you've got honest money or at least a modicum of it floating around in your economy. They didn't need to do it. So the situations were actually created to make them, compel them to have to borrow the money interest so that the bank could control industry. That's what the whole thing is about. I mean, it's a it's a madness. The other really nasty side of it as well is this. If, if a company was looking to expand, you know, if you take a bank and it's servicing, say, a particular industry, I don't know, the sewing machine industry. Right? There's several sewing machine manufacturers. The new one comes on the block, which has got this fantastic sewing machine, costs two thirds the cost to produce, and it's blah blah blah blah blah, and they go to the bank, they say we need, you know, $5,000,000 or £5,000,000 or whatever it is to get going.
What would happen, and there's no doubt happens even today, is that the existing sewing machine manufacturers would phone up the bank and say, you know, we owe you we we owe you £20,000,000. Yeah. Well, you better not lend this money to this guy because you certainly won't get that back from us because he's gonna chew our markets up. So they would not extend the loan for the better technology. This has happened multi it's just a gradual, behavioral pattern. And it it's always gonna go like this because the system at the heart of it is diseased. It it can't produce all the things that we've produced that are plenty have come about in spite of the banks. Not because of. They claim credit for it, don't they? Because they micromanage all these things around, but it's in spite of them.
And all the time with these economics things on TV, I know I'm like a broken record. I'm gonna actually get a different record, really. But all the time, they're not actually addressing the engineering flaw in the heart of it. So so it will never be fixed. It will never be fixed. It can't be fixed without thinking.
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But there's a big difference between capitalism and free enterprise. Because, Ford, Henry Ford believed in free enterprise. And he said, I can't remember it verbatim, but it was on the lines of, if people knew the truth about the banking industry, there'd be a revolution before tomorrow morning. You spot it. Yeah. But they are desperate to keep people in ignorance. And whilst you got Farty Farf Farfetch talking a load of waffle, and these stupid political parties, tear me out with a load of rubbish. I mean, it's Gordon Brown, though, the one eyed wonder who sold all the gold off to Rothschild. He said, I I I was driving along. The only time I listen to anything mainstream is when I'm in the car, and I'm in a traffic jam or or I'm driving somewhere. I just put the radio on. And he said, because the Labour Party has done such a wonderful job of the and the economy, they can now, pay, the winter fuel amounts to the elderly people.
They can they they can actually
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so next Now I still think that comment he made in the in the back of the cab was the amazing reveal from Gordon Brown. Yeah. But when he'd met that woman, do you remember that? And he was just they caught him off camera, and he was just so dismissive and rude about it. He just thought, there you go. Anyway, Eric, we're coming to the end of the first hour. Okay. And we have, we have a guest in the second hour, Roger Sales, will be rocking up in a few minutes. But I just wanted to say hi to everybody at WBN three two four. You listen to Paul English live. We're here every Thursday.
Was it yesterday? I think Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys passed away, which was, quite a blow, I think. I I love the Beach Boys. I'm not a sort of big fan, but I think their music is so instantaneously recognizable and conjures up a mood of such such happy times. It does for me. I think I first heard this one, which is their classic track, when I was about seven or eight and was blown away by it on a little dance set, record player that my cousin had. And she just bought the single or something. I don't know what it was. '67, '68, or something like that. Anyway, Brian Wilson passed away, I think it's yesterday, 82 years of age. So we're gonna play we're gonna play a song. And then after the break, I will be hooking up with Roger Sales, who's lurking around in the studio.
So we'll go for a little bit of Beach Boys, then we'll be back in three or four minutes' time.
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Hi, everyone, and welcome back to, to hour two, Paul English live here on, whatever date it is. Does it really matter? I'm sure you all know. And, we're joined in the studio now for the beginning of hour two by the gentleman who unfortunately couldn't make it last week due to the negative effects of an Ecuadorian electrical engineer or something that just wiped him out. But, Roger,
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welcome to the show. How are you? Am I live and livid in color here? You sound fab. Okay. Well, you know Ecuador today. Well, we're pretty nice. A little partly cloudy. We're still not in our summer season, but we're trying to get there, and we'll all be glad when we do. It's weird because we're a little South Of The Equator where I am. Highest point on the Earth, by the way, on the Equator. Have incredible UV, ratings here. And, but we mimic the Northern Hemisphere's weather, I've found. Because I did live in Argentina for nine years before here.
And, everything's totally reversed down there. Okay? But here, we mimic the Northern Hemisphere's weather pattern, which has always kinda surprised me, but I live very close to the Equator at about 8,000 feet up in the Andes. Very nice little valley just to the Northeast of Quito. And, boy, I really like it. I'm, however, the good lord got me here. I'm sure glad he did because I like it. So does everybody else that lives here. It sounds awfully appealing. I'll tell you with what's going on around here.
[01:07:29] Unknown:
I'm sort of cursing myself, but my thoughts keep turning to, is it really worth sticking around here? It's just such an absolute lunatic asylum, really. It sounded sounds like in a really lovely place. We're all slightly jealous, aren't we, Eric? Have you met Eric? You've you've not met Eric, have you, Roger? I've heard Eric's in, his laugh has,
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permeated the whole world, I think. Eric, nice to meet you as we'd say here. Hello.
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And Eric, sweetie.
[01:07:54] Unknown:
Well, I could say hi, mate, or I could say, hey, Bubba, if I was in my southern, voice. But, I'd like to say mucho gusto, which means in Spanish, nice to meet you.
[01:08:05] Unknown:
And nice to meet you as well. Very pleasant to meet you. Yeah. And I like your accent. It's very, very, very interesting. Yeah. Okay. Good. What part of the state is is it from? Well, I was born in Florida.
[01:08:18] Unknown:
I'm an actual, believe it or not, native Floridian. Both my parents were born in Florida also, which is quite rare. And, but my father was a jet jockey in the air force, and so I moved all over the place. I've lost a heavy, I think, southern accent, but I don't know. I it's it's I guess the origin is there, Eric, but thank you very much. Yeah.
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That's that's fascinating. Far better far better mile for accent.
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Yeah. Well, we're proud to be in the South for southern folks are. And what we're really doing now is just fighting the civil war worldwide. It's basically the same things are aligned. We're fighting the same people. And, and, but we've gotten a lot smarter here the last few years. They've gotten a lot more exposed in the last few years. Yes. And that's a that's a very nice combination. They don't like it too much. It doesn't seem.
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No. Well, I think our best weapon is humor. And I think we got to just keep laughing at them. Yeah. They hate to be laughing at it. They hate to be laughing. Right. It drives them nuts. I've I've often said, when queer stoma, that's our dear and gracious leader that in this country, and, when he comes on the scene, we should whistle the Laurel and Hardy tune. Just keep whistling it. Because he is, it's true what Paul says, he is mental.
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Totally and utterly mental. These people He's been specially selected, Eric, hasn't he, for his mental deficiencies? He has. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. He really is. He's a Russian love in life. I mean, Eric won't know this, but obviously, in your early days, in your younger days, when you were zipping around and doing things,
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you were involved with radio and the music industry, weren't you? Quite heavy. Do you remember, the one of the early Rolling Stone? It was a b side, I think, on the other side of a single called the West Coast promo man. Does that ring a bell with you, Eric? No. Who wrote a bit? Well, that's what I did. I I worked I started in radio in my hometown, Panama City, Florida. They're in the Panhandle. And, it it was interesting because we've got the world's most beautiful beaches there. And, consequently, a lot of these guys that work for record companies that have real big expense accounts, Well, they love to come down there and visit me because they just talk to you. Please play our record, and they get a whole free weekend beach vacation paid for by the record company. And so I did not know there were people like this that existed. And when I got into a position where I was, over the music at the station, and they were all calling on me.
And it wasn't very long. I said, thank you, Lord. I've found my calling. And it took me about two years to, to get the job, and I moved to Atlanta and worked for Mercury Records. I subsequently worked for ABC and then a very small short lived company, best best corporate job I ever had called, Infinity. And, Infinity Records, they only lasted about a year, but they were headed by a guy, named Ron Alexenberg. Now that name probably doesn't ring a bell with you. He was a Chicago guy with gray ears and worked his way up to, with CBS to well, he was in New York, and they took he he did such a good job. They took a little sideline label called Epic Records. You may have heard of it. And, it's a $22,000,000 a year company, and they gave it to him. And he turned it into a $220,000,000 a year company in short order. You mentioned yesterday and were, commenting on Brian, Wilson's, demise.
Well, the day before that, you may or may not have heard it was Sly and the Family Stone. Sly died.
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Okay?
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And, Alexenberg was the one that found them. I can give you a list of bands that he found. Cheap Trick, you probably heard of them. Dan Fogelberg, you more than likely heard of him. Sly and the Family Stone, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. He found all those great artists that were on, Epic. Then he got PO'd with the CBS or whatever, and he left and started his own company. And that was the company that I worked for called Infinity. And just a really for instance, his flamboyance was when he had the kickoff party for the label, he rented the New York City library and had it in the New York City library.
So an extravagant guy, very head of ears. And, then I I lost that job in the Jimmy Carter recession transition, though, to mister Reagan and the high interest rate. So it went from there were 28 guys that did what I did to eight. So it wasn't very favorable if she lost her job. And, that's when I switched careers and all that. Yeah. But I did that for a number of years and called on radio stations and, you know, played my record, played my record. And, it was fun. But it's not a realistic when the job went away, there was only one thing I could find that paralleled it. Could you guess what that is? Maybe, Paul or Eric?
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No. Oh, I don't know. Go on to the store, Jack. A lobbyist.
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Right. Going in, bribing people to do stuff, getting them hookers, and buying them cocaine. Oh, yeah. One of those guys. It's all coming out now. I knew if we just let you I knew if we just let you talk, we'd get down to the dirt pretty quickly. This is fantastic. So anyway, thank you. Yeah. Once everybody else did that, I did that for a few years of, and found out it wasn't reality, and, I've been struggling. Struggled for a few years, through the eighties. And then I stumbled on these two characters that were teaching the tax system.
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And I had all the Before you before you why did you stumble on them? Did you have some kind of curiosity prior to having that? I've never Right. Okay. I'm I'm a child of the sixties. Okay? And I've always known something was wrong.
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Woodstock, the assassinations, Vietnam, all I would you know, I just knew something wasn't right. Okay? I didn't know what it was, obviously, but I had that sense early. And then I my my, first wife had a brother who, I was a real I really liked him, and we'd go out and play golf. He'd play golf. I'd hit around. And, he kept telling me about this group called the Bilderbergers that met in secret, and all the world's press was there. Nobody ever was allowed to release anything. And so that was, fueled my curiosity. And it was a couple of years later, and I was doing some network companies. And one of the guys that I worked with, he said came up, said income tax is illegal.
I went, what? She said income tax is illegal. I said, no. I've got an open mind. She said, I got a tape. I got a tape. I said, well, I'll watch it. Took me about two weeks to get it. I can tell you the exact day that I saw it because I've gone back and, and and and nailed it. It was July the sixteenth of nineteen ninety two. And the reason I do that is because that was the night of Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech. And I was political animal. I wanted to see this new young upstart. And, and usually, those events last, what, twenty, thirty minutes or something. I thought, well, I was watching the tape. I stopped it to watch Clinton, and I figured when he stopped, I'd go back and watch the tape. I was about halfway through by a guy named Al Carter.
And, so anyway, if you may or may not remember, that was the long the longest acceptance speech in American political history. It lasted over two hours. Still hasn't finished, does it? The way it might it might be in the closing thing. And and he played his saxophone, and this was where he made the famous accreditation to, the George, the guy that's his mentor from, from Georgetown University that wrote Tragedy and Hope. Carol Quigley. Yes. Quigley. And he publicly commended him as his favorite professor in all of that. Now if you go and read, Carol Quigley's Opus, it's quite long, of course. They put it out, tragedy and hope, and then they immediately burned the plates. Did you know that, Paul?
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I do. Yeah. I think there was about three or 400 copies got out. So and they went, you can't let this out. And then they destroyed the place. Yeah. There's about 65, 66, wouldn't it? Something like that. Probably around in there. And, he Mhmm. It's been reprinted, of course, but he was for the audience who may not know this history,
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Quigley was one of them. He was a CFR member and all that stuff. And because of that, they let him into their archives for two years to research everything in the archives. And see, Quigley's problem with them was he thought they ought to make it public. He loved the idea. He just thought they ought to make it public. And so when he wrote his book, he said in there, there's a famous little passage that said, the world's financial leaders, y'all were talking about this right before I came on with you, the world's financial leaders met regularly in secret sessions so they could fashion the world's financial system in a feudalist fashion.
Folks That's right. You can't have the world's financial system in a feudalist fashion without surfs.
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Surf, of course, links us back to the Beach Boys, but that's me putting tenuous links in, isn't it? But but sorry. I just couldn't resist that. When it came up, I thought, bingo. I've got one there. You know, the early war cry for my my little thing I've been on for thirty something years was Surf's Up.
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And I tried to get that website, and somebody already had had had squatted on it, and I wasn't gonna pay that. Well, I think we need to get it back because it's, 1381
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was the Peasants Revolt over here with what Tyler and the serfs, and it's about time I keep banging on about we need Peasants Revolt two point o. It's gonna have to be slightly different. But, the thing about Quigley's book is what yeah. Quigley's book, for those of you that want to read it, it's an app it is a monstrous book. I mean, it's about fourteen, fifteen hundred pages. Something like that. When I when I read it when I read it, and it's about fifteen years since I read it. So I don't know if I'll get around to ever reading it again. The thing that knocked me out about it, obviously, I was tunneling through it to get to these passages because there are there's only a certain amount passages in them where he starts to talk about what you've just been referencing there, Roger, as you well know.
But, the scope of his knowledge about the operations of the world is breathtaking. And I realized when I read it, I thought, gosh, I'm thick. I seriously, I just thought there are these people who've got brains that work at such a colossally higher tempo than mine. I don't think mine's necessarily bad, but it's really great to be in the presence of someone who's thinking in such a way. And, it's it's tremendous. It's impressive, because you think, oh, well, if if those brains could actually be put in the right direction, and I'm not saying Quigley was necessarily facing in the wrong direction. The fact that he even had the courage to get the book out is a plus for him. I don't think he lived that long, though, did he? I think he was I mean, he's not alive now. I don't know. He did not believe he made very, very advanced years.
So maybe they did for him or something in some way, but that's me just speculating nonsense. But, it's def I mean, that was the bit where I learned about where is it? He's talking about revolutions, or changes, major seismic changes in civilized life. And he talks about Russia getting it all wrong, although maybe they got it wrong intentionally. So I remember him talking about, you see, what happened in Europe, certainly what happened in England is everything went in the right order. Don't ask me what but he did. You mentioned serfs. So they get off the land with the agrarian revolution, and that releases men from working on the land. And then they can go off and make better and better barrels or horseshoes or saddles or whatever. It all starts to build up, then you get a commercial class, then you get all these other enterprises that are taking place, on the basis that you've got food sorted out. So I think I think that it's probably from that book that he mentions that about 15 in the early fifteen hundreds, it took 20 men working on the land to feed 24. In other words, they could feed themselves plus four others.
After, when they got through all this sort of transformation of the way that they dealt with the land, it dropped down to 10, and it released eight or 10 other men to start working in other things. And this is how the complexities of civilization build up. And then you get, transportation and so on and so forth. I remember talking about South America. I think particularly Brazil and Argentina. Maybe it was pretty so in Brazil, they got it all the wrong way around. So you have these huge German engineering firms and British ones as well going out there and building the Brazilian and Argentine railroads. In fact, what's his name? His name's just run out. I mean, the guy that created social Douglas, the guy that created social credit, he was an engineer that went over there and built 5,000 miles of track in Argentina or Brazil, one of those places. Mhmm. And what he quickly points out was, yeah, they built all these railway systems. There's no food to stick in the carriages.
They got it wrong. And then Russia got it wrong because they went from they basically killed all the peasants off. Of course, that was for political reasons. They killed all the kulaks off who didn't understand anything and starved everybody to death in our favorite hot spot of the world, the Ukraine, of course, whilst putting all their money into armaments. So his his observations, it was the first time I came across because you just assume that life's managed. Right? You don't think it could possibly be mismanaged. Of course, we live in this age now where you see it's been intentionally mismanaged on purpose and blamed on other things. But, yeah, it's a tremendous source of information, that book, but it is requires a little bit of mental fortitude They and stamina to get through it. They've still got a lot in Argentina, a number of what they call Anglo Argentinians whose descendants from the men that built that railroad
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got land and stayed there. I I knew several of them when I was there. I live for the audience. Because everybody asked me the question, well, where did you live? Close to Buenos Aires? No. I lived on the total opposite side over by the Andes, but about due west of, VA as we call it. And, boy, there were some, really nice, guys. I really liked them, all the ones I met and hung out with a bit. So, yeah, still, the memory lingers as they say.
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So, Roger, given that England is one of the homes of serfs, tell us tell us how awful our life is. Go on. Tell us.
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Well, I I think, unfortunately, y'all are ahead of us. I heard Eric, a couple of weeks ago, mentioned something about the the change of England came from October and the, Norman invasion. And that that's very true. That's very true. Okay. Was it you was talking about the Magna Carta earlier today?
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Well, yeah, we were. And, actually, just tapping in today. So I was. Yeah. So it's it's June. So here we are on June. Yes. And just whilst we're in dating mode, you mentioned Bilderberg as well. Well, they just started today in Stockholm. Oh, they did. End on Magna Carta Day, June in Stockholm. They're having a beano, where all these really amazing people are gathering together to not tell us what they're doing to reorganize the world for our benefit. I'm I'm greatly reassured by that, Roger. There's no doubt you are too. I am. Very happy about it. Yeah. We're all happy. A very remote
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location. I always tell the taxi drivers, here I go. You're you don't know. You live in the best place in the world to be right now. Like, it's hard for them to appreciate it. You know, the grass is always greener type of mentality. But, yes. And, of course, don't forget tomorrow, Friday the thirteenth is one of those rare little days, which has quite a bit of history behind it too. But, yes. When, William the Conqueror came over, Battle of Hastings, I think don't you live pretty close to there, Paul?
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Oh, I drive past it regularly. I I drive really near the battlefield.
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Okay. Absolutely. Well, and I'm sure most of your English listeners know about that, but it was a big famous battle. And he had the Jews and, and the Catholic church behind him, William the Bastard, as his people called him. He didn't like it, but that's what he was. And he came over and fought, King Alfred, I believe.
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And Harold, it was. Harold. Harold. Okay. And they were It's an amazing thing because Harold and his troops had just been up in Yorkshire at the Battle of Stamford Bridge where they'd chinned loads of Vikings. Right? And then they they heard that what's his name was rocking up down there on the South Coast, so they walked. They walked they just fought a big battle. It took them eight days to walk up and down England, and they walked all the way. They were fed by peasants along the way. And if they'd not got carried as I understand it, if they'd not got carried away because they were on top in the battle and run down the hill, they would have won. But they ran they got a little bit giddy. Yeah. They broke ranks, and that was the end of them. And it's not good. No. But it's accents, wasn't it? Because there was also
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tribes from, Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. Because they knew if Mhmm. England fell, they would fall. Mhmm. And because of the accents, they couldn't they didn't understand the command of the United Nations. Worst thing, they broke rank. And, are you telling me, Harry, that they didn't speak the Queen's English or the Queen's English? They didn't. The King At all so hell. Those damn rocks, the bloody Scots and Welsh with their silly languages and accents. Sorry, everybody. I definitely mean that. Oh, that's right. Yes. They didn't bury the dead after the battle, and they left Mhmm. The carcasses there for a hundred years before they were buried. Skeletons were actually left on the battlefield Yikes. As a as a as supposed to say, we've beat you you English, and that's it. So, that Harold
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fascinating about that, Eric, was the fact that that, yeah, as you say, Harold was winning. And, Normandy, the bastard had one arrow left. One of his archers had one arrow left, shot it arbitrarily into the air. One arrow and it happened to fall in Harold's eye. He dropped dead on the spot and everybody took off. And one arrow changed the entire course of the world, folks.
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I love the arrow. Yeah. That's a serious question.
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It's Eddie and I, Ash. It's not an arrow. We're talking about yeah. Sorry.
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No. I don't know about you, Eric. It's but at school, when I was a kid growing up, everybody was still cross about the Normans. I don't know if I mentioned this to you, Roger. It's ridiculous. It's nineteen seventies. I didn't even know my history right. But everybody used to go around when we were kids, like, 12, 13. Bloody Normans. Really? That's that's sort of that way, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Nick Griffin. Yeah. Nick Griffin, who headed up the BNP, he writes about it every now and again, you know, about what a site a massive change in the nation it was. I mean, it just was. It's just huge. And round here place. I mean They they Yeah. I mean, down here in the Southeast, you've got places all these French place names like Herse Monceau and all this other thing. And, of course, after they won the battle, they ran around in Southeast England and slaughtered everybody.
Did It didn't end. I mean, the slaughtering afterwards, sort of what you would call the mopping up was probably worse than the battle. They were just killing everybody. It was not these weren't fun times. There's not always about it. It wasn't good. Not a pretty not a pretty chapter in history.
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And the repercussions of that. And if you'd like to see, go to Black's law dictionary and you go to a what's called, we call the doomsday book, but it's d o m e s, doomsday book. And it'll lay that right out there in the law dictionary what happened. He came over and he brought he did a he got surveyors. They use surveying, terminology, minute and second. That that's surveying stuff. So he surveyed the, lands of England, and then he divvied them out to his nobles. And the I've heard I learned this from Brent, actually, who's somebody you ought to have on, Paul, as you know. And, so what he did though, the the the bastard, William, was he gave his nobles, but he didn't give them all the land in one spot. He'd give them a part up in the Northeast, a part in the Northwest, a part in the Southeast, and a part in the Southwest.
And the reason he did that is so they'd be traveling from one estate to the other, and they wouldn't have time to get together and meet on how to overthrow him.
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Clever lad,
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Clever. Yep. Do do you know Harold though is is buried not far from where I live. Really? It's called Waltham Abbey. Allegedly, they don't know whether it's for sure, but, it's there there there's a strong possibility he's buried somewhere around Waltham Abbey.
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Wow.
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Well, it's, anyway, all that history has come over to us because what he was doing when you're talking about minute and second stuff is he was overlaying, over veneering the European common law over what would be called the English common law. And, except that the European common law had feudalism in it, And it had both types of serfs. There's two types of servitude, one involuntary and one voluntary. And because England had the free soil doctrine, which I suppose you're supposed to still have, where there's never been a slave born on the island of England, they could only bring over the voluntary servitude aspect of it. And that's how the feudal system worked into what's called.
And, and by some of your legal people, you know, like, Maitland and Pollock and those guys, it's called the English variety of slavery. Okay. And now that's what the whole world's in. Voluntary
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Yay. Another great English export.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Don't say you don't make anything. You make a bunch of trouble.
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I agree with you. It's not me though. It's that other class of types, those bloody Normans.
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But you're right. Well, we've discovered I me, I had a part in this. I I would have never been able to add what I added if I hadn't had the foundation and the basis, by my two teachers, one of which was a legal expert who had studied the law his entire life because he loved it, but he didn't study it in law school. He went back and read the old books, and that's what they've done. Okay? Now I can prove to you, Paul and Eric and audience, that the bad guys have been in control of a, organization in our country called the American Association of Colleges and Law Schools, and they've been in control of that for at least ninety years.
And the reason I know that is because in, there we've got a great book. It's on the website. It's I you know who Louis t McFadden was, Paul?
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I know who Louis t McFadden was. He was the, he was the furious communicator during the onslaught of the origins. He was the high critic of the Federal Reserve, was he not? His his his,
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impeachment, things are still on the back burner there in the senate that or in the house that he introduced back in the thirties for the audience. He was a banker, worked his way up from emptying trash cans to being the president of the bank. He was, his district was Northeast Pennsylvania, I believe. And, so he decided to run for congress. So he was in the teens, like, around World War one. And, the so when he got elected, the from the very first, the the House of Representatives, the people's house used to have a banking committee. And because of his background, he was made chairman of the banking, committee, when he was immediately elected and served in that capacity until they murdered him on the fourth attempt by poisoning him at the Waldorf Astoria at a banquet one night in New York. But McFadden being a banker, well, he had their number. He knew exactly what they were doing. And if you go look his name up, if you're not familiar with him, do a search on the web.
Probably, the first speech that you'll see is one that says the Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper. And so this book that's on our website called the 31 collective speeches of Louis G. McFadden, one of the greatest statesmen we've ever elected, I believe, in studying him. I'm a tell you how how good he was. And this is what's hard to believe. The last time he got elected to run-in the house every two years, he was nominated by the Republicans, the Democrats, and the the populist parties. All three parties had the same nominee, This guy. Right. He's very exceptional.
Okay? Mhmm. And, so in that book, he goes into a lot of things. Well, for one thing, you're talking about the money supply. He goes there's a whole chapter in there on the formation of the Bank of International Settlements, which runs the the world today.
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So, that and and I've just been reading about them actually, Roger. I'm just going into yeah. Yeah. This I mentioned this book. I mean, Catherine Austin Fitts was on with Tuca Carlson recently. Actually, if you just hold the line here, I'm just gonna I I remembered. I was just, going through it the other day. Let me play you this clip. It's a couple of minutes talking about this very thing. It's a good you just mentioned it, so we'll just throw it in here. It's a couple of minutes long. Alright. Can everyone Austin Fitz? Yeah. We'll come to Newcastle. I'm gonna show you the type of control they have. So but go ahead and pull it up. Just hang on to your idea because this is a Bank of International Settlements communication. Here we go. So you believe going back thirty years
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that people in the US government and in the finance world
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wanted money for Yeah. It wasn't US government. It was the central banking. If you look at the central if you look at the group of people who meet through the BIS. What's that? The bank the BIS is the Bank of International Settlements, and it's the central bank of central banks. Where is that located? It's in Basel, Switzerland, and, it has 63 of the most powerful in, central banks as its members, and the New York Fed and the Fed are both shareholders. They became shareholders in 1994.
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In what sentence? What's the what's the purpose of the Bank of International Settlements? Okay. So there are two things you need to know about the Bank of International Settlements. I'm not sure my brain's big enough for this, but keep going. It is. Okay. It has sovereign immunity.
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What does that mean? It's above the law. It's its own country. Right. It's its own country. It has its own police force. And essentially, other than one of its staff being in a car accident or, you know, minor things, no one has the legal authority to move against it. Okay? And that's sovereign immunity. That's number one. Number two, it can move money and hold it on its bank, on its balance sheet and manage money secretly. So if I wanna I'm and I'm grossly oversimplifying. If I wanna steal 21,000,000,000,000 from the US government and park it on the balance sheet of the BIS, it can move it anywhere in the world, and it can keep it on its balance sheet secretly.
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Why would there be an organizational?
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But first of all, where does its power like, who empowered it to have sovereign immunity in the right It was created after World War I and and and sort of collected its powers and got going in the thirties. And it was created, in theory, to manage the reparations of the German government. But if you read the real history, it was Bank of England and the central bankers wanted an entity that had sovereign immunity. They wanted to be able to move money secretly. So, for example, if you look at what happened during World War II and all the money that was moving back and forth between the Germans and Americans.
You know, Dulles was over in Switzerland helping to manage these, all these transfers back and forth. So there's a wonderful book called The Tower of Basel by a wonderful Hungarian journalist where he documents and describes the whole history of the Bank of International Settlement. And if you wanna understand power in this world, understanding the how the Bank of International Settlements and the and the plumbing of the central banking system works is very, very important.
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Seemed apt given what you were talking about. Very, very useful clip. Even Tucker Carlson had never heard of the Bank of International Settlements, but No one's heard of it, Roger, outside of this conversation. I'm serious. At relative terms, very few people have. That book, by the way, everyone, if you wanna get it, the Tower of Basil, there's a fantastic archive site called welib, welib,.org, welib.org. It's got 46,000,000 books and 96,000,000 papers on it quite seriously, and I've been plundering it. It's got some tremendous stuff. I picked that book up the other day. I've got it on my Kindle. I've been plowing through it. It's brilliant. And, it's it's, well, it is for me. I mean, you put you got what who wants to read about that? You find out here's a great irony as well. Montague Norman, who was this highly secretive figure, head of the Bank of England for over twenty years. Right? Yep.
You know, the the go to man for everything. He worked and put it together with Hjalmar Schacht. So England and Germany, which we were about to come to blows again, ostensibly, you know, in 1939, him and Schacht put it all together Yep. To deal with these reparation things. It's amazing. And there was a little discussion with a waiter that was there. And the meeting the first meeting they had, they wouldn't even allow reporters to go into the empty room after they'd all vacated it. Nothing. And no one even that's why no one knows it exists.
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I bet you there was an empty chair in the meeting.
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I bet there was. Well, for him, for that guy. Of course.
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Yeah. The big the big guy as Dylan said. Yeah. The guy from the pit. Him. Yeah. I bet there was, Roger. Fascinating if you wanna read about it in something that's fairly understandable. I don't know about your long book, but you can go back to that, 31 collective speeches of Louis t McFadden, a fabulous book. If you wanna know what was really going on in the heavy formulative years of this after World War one and up to the bankruptcy in our country, '33, man, there's no better source than McFadden. Alright? I'm gonna give you an example. He says, I've got a number of his, excerpts of his speeches in my book. At one point, he said, they're erecting a Machiavellian feudal system.
Nail it. Would you, Luke? I mean, come on. In the thirties, he saw it. See? In there, he talks about a speech at the annual Association of American Colleges and Law Schools, and I think it was '33. And they moved, the annual convention where the speech important speech was given and they moved it. How about this, Paul? Would you like to go to a convention in Chicago on New Year's Eve?
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Would I?
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So they had the power, this association, to move their annual meeting to Chicago on New Year's Eve, a bit chilly. And, so that a little Jew named Jacob Frank from the, Department of Agriculture could come give a speech called experimental jurisprudence and the new deal. You know how they've got to tell us what they're doing? That speech. So I didn't I'd never looked at it. I was thinking about it one day. I said, well, I'll go hunt that up. And and I did. And I was doing shows with Al Attis, a patriot guy of some repute years ago. And I sent that to Al and he said, Roger, that's the damnedest piece of government paper I've ever seen.
So they moved the speech to Chicago on New Year's Eve so that nobody had show up so he could come and tell them what they were doing to them. Right. So they've been now here's the other part. So if they can control that, I guess they can probably control the curriculums of law schools, couldn't they?
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I think it probably wouldn't be too difficult for them to do something like that, Roger. No. All of the people that have gone through law schools have not been exposed
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to these very serious concepts like well, you know the word person. In a person that you can only write statutes for persons, things, or actions. And the majority of them were were written for persons. But it doesn't mean persons like us. It means legal persons. What's your legal personality from where do you get your rights and to whom do you owe your duties? And so they don't teach that kind of stuff in law school anymore. And if you don't believe me, go ask some lawyers or judges about it. They this is the question. What's the legal concept behind the meaning of the word person? And I guarantee you, if you can find anybody that can answer that, you you got a rare bird. So if you don't even understand the person and you're trying to read a statute that they're convicting you on or wanting to, how the hell are you supposed to defend yourself?
These guys are like the old Indian spies. I don't remember what tribe it was, the Sioux or one of those western tribes, and they were the the great scouts. See? And they climb up to the hill and look over on Custer and and and his troops, And then they turn around and back out and with a brush, they would wipe out their footprints. That's what these guys do.
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Yep. They do.
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They do. I mean, the idea that even at the base with these simple words that there is an error
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means that everything that's built after that is in error. Yes. Does it not? Yes. My teacher I'll give you an example. My my great teacher, now deceased, John w Benson, unfortunately, man that changes lives. I I'll tell you the information we've got if you're not familiar with me or what we do. This information for the right person changes lives. It absolutely changes your life. The reason is because it changes the way you think. And you can't change the way you think without the way you live. Okay? Mhmm. So, John Benson called up one of the law schools that are in Utah. They were Mormons, lived in Utah. And, I don't know which one. It must have been a smaller one because he got the dean of the law school on the phone. And John was telling him. He said, well, man, I'm really thinking about coming back to school. I like to come this, that, and the other. And the dean goes, well, I would we'd love to have you and this, that, and the other. He's doing the sales job. You know? And John goes, well, I'm particularly interested in one thing, and the dean goes, yes.
He said, I'm particularly interested in the meaning of the word person.
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And the dean goes, well, well, oh, yes. Well, of course, we teach that.
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Well, we it's an elective, and when we get enough people sign up for it, we teach it. And John very astutely said, well, when was the last time you taught it? Six years ago. So six of his graduating law school classes graduated without being exposed to the critical concept behind the word person. If you want it, I'll give it to you. A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties, an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties. You'll hear a lot of people in our community, said legal people, and they go, oh, and you ask them the question. This is my litmus question to people, by the way. I go, what's the legal concept behind the meaning of the word person? And they go, oh, well, person or is a corporate as corporations, corporate fiction. Well, that's not wrong, but it's not right.
A person can be a corporation because of what they call corporate personhood. So they've assigned them rights, and they owe correlative duties. But not necessarily because it can also be an individual. It can be a partnership. It can be all kinds of different things, but not just a corporation. So that's how little our community has been exposed, and the reason is even attorneys and judges don't know this stuff. One of my students is a has an air, air he works for the airplane company, does private
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We just lost you. What's going on there? Well We just lost you, Roger. He's getting on. He's getting muted. That was interesting. Yeah. You're okay. No. It's okay. We'll be alright. Hey, Roger. Are you there? Came back. Roger, if you if you can hear me, Roger, if you leave the studio and can come back in, I don't know if Paul's around. I don't know what's going on. I've got that coming. So this studio is also slightly not, up to up to snuff with what we want. I don't know why it's done that. Apologies, everyone. That was kind of out of our control.
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Rumble Studio does that. It's very good at doing that, actually. I mean, it boots me out of the studio occasionally, so it's it's now quite, yes. He'll probably be back in a few moments. He's designed to do
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Well, if Paul's catching wind of this message sorry about this, everyone. We're just we're just about to get to the punchline. No. We weren't. There's no end of punchlines with this. It it goes on for a long time. There's a lot of stuff. Okay. He's back. Let me just hold on. I'm just pressing a button here that might, there's not there's only so much I can do. Hello? Hello? Testing one? Yeah. You're back with us, Roger. Yeah. We got you back. Call. Yeah. I was talking. I could hear you guys. You couldn't hear me. Anyway,
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I have a guy, William's his name. He's a pilot and works for a private company. He flies important people around. And one of his passengers, he's had him several times as a magistrate judge sitting. And he starts asking him this stuff. This guy doesn't know anything about it. He doesn't know the definition of the word person. He doesn't know anything. He's a sitting magistrate judge. K? Mhmm. So, our part of our job is to help educate people on all this stuff that they have let go asunder. There's a a number of them. That's just probably the the the preeminent one is the word person.
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So I'm just very fortunate. That what you say there, right, educating people, like when I was talking about this little conversation I'd had earlier today, which was relatively disappointing from my point of view, it's it's it's almost as if I'm tending to think what I have to micro take apart, like, every sentence I'm gonna use depending on who I'm talking to. And I think it's a matter of sort of it's Eric was talking about this earlier, and we may have mentioned it. You know, if you if you split the population up into sort of three groups broadly speaking, there's us here with the question mark burnt into our souls about everything.
Right? Everything. And it's growing in size. You've got the great mass of people who might be open to it, and then you've got another section, say, 30% that are completely unreachable. And it's a matter of not spending any energy, really. It sounds harsh because we don't have enough resources with that 30%. I'm finding these nimble Yep. Want of a better word, ways to unlock the potential in the other 40% to get them in in other words, I don't know what you're like, Roger, but I from the minute I wake up on a morning to to hit in the hay at night, I've never stopped thinking about all this stuff. Oh, me too. Just don't stop. I've been like that for thirty years. Burn things. I leave pans off. You know, I get shouted out, what are you doing? I go, oh, yes. It's of no interest. Nothing. Because I'm going, if this isn't sorted out, what's the point of anything? I mean, that's really my context. Yep. And so, you know, it's finding a way to infuse everybody else with a kind of constructive rage that we've got. You can't let it chew you up, but it's almost like an emotional pitch. It's not even an intellectual one. Because I get a little bit lost in all the words. You know, they love all this terminology, jurisdiction, all these other words, which immediately put a barrier between the audience and what you're trying to get them to comprehend and understand. They've they've concocted a language that is designed to have multi syllable words, which which dehumanize the process. And I can see why they've done it because it makes it much slower for everybody to catch on to what they're up to. Can I quote Alice in Wonderland
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for you?
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Anybody can quote anybody can quote Alice in Wonderland anytime they like, Roger. I'd love you to quote it. Go on. Get quoting your way. Know it or not,
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at whatever age, the first time you were exposed to Alice in Wonderland was the first time these concepts were, implanted in your subconscious. So here's a conversation, between, Humpty Dumpty and Alice. I found this, by the way, when I was in paralegal school. We had a module on legal research, and we used a book out of, organization out of University of California at Berkeley, believe it or not, called Nolo, n o l o, Press, which does legal writings for self help legal stuff, your own divorce, your own bankruptcy, all that stuff. They've got an excellent legal research book, and that was what we used. And so you open up the big eight and a half by eleven, the front cover, and the whole front front page was this quote. I'm gonna take a little poetic license, if I may, and add a bit in there. So this is when I use a word when I use the word resident, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I say it means no more, no less.
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But the question is, said Alice, how can you make a word mean so many different things?
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The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who's to be master? That's all. There it is. Words mean things. And what they're doing is they've got a two tier definition. We've got colloquial definitions that we use and understand, and then we've got high technical definitions, which is what they're using. Okay? So should I say, Paul, that car, I love that automobile you've got out there. Is is that your property? And you'd say Yes, Roger. It's my property. Okay. And we'd all know what we just said. Right? Mhmm. However, in court, property is another one of these words. Property to us is the thing.
In law, your car would be the thing and your property is the property right in and to the thing. So it's a slight difference, but it's extremely important.
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Yes.
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So it's those kinds of little things that that I've had to plow through and figure out and see how they fit and try and put in it's like putting a big picture together, a big puzzle, trying to see which piece fits where and over a trial and error. And thank goodness for the wonderful life, sacrifice that John Benson made and the teaching this stuff. It was all tax oriented at that time. And then I got into a, you know, I never had a tax problem. I didn't make enough money. I never had a tax problem till I met these two guys. And I had one I had one shortly thereafter.
And, so, I got a books and records thing, a subpoena for books and records, and I decided being a little more full of piss and vinegar at that age of my life, I'd fight them. And I did, and and, they beat me up pretty bad. And by the time I got through licking my wounds and all that, and I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this. And so I split from the way we were going in the tax movement and went off in the oh, you mentioned the word earlier in the, in seek of jurisdiction. Now what does jurisdiction mean? How does that unelected bureaucrat over there have the ability to take legislation and reinterpret it and then not only attach it to me, but enforce it on me? What gives him that power? That's jurisdiction.
Right. And he doesn't have that power over everybody. They can't go up to Canada or down to Mexico and drag them into the country and start beating them up and charging them. They've got to have that authority. Well, what is it? Where did it come from? Well, that's the answer. I assume it came from
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from me unknowingly consenting to it. Well, that's exactly why you see According to their system. Well, we've got the power.
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Period. And what they've done is they finagled away over decades of turning things around so they can ask you a question and see if you give them that, which is what they're doing. Now for all the Americans that are listening and for you people in other countries, this is what you need to find in your own country. What questions are they asking you to trick you to volunteering into a condition of servitude? Now in our country, they ask you two questions. You've been asking many Americans your whole life, your whole adult life. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? And then you sign something. Well, those seem pretty innocent. Right, Paul? Yep. They do. Well, they're not. They're deadly. They're loaded. It's your agreement into servitude.
They set it up where you're born into it. And then as you get of age, they ask you those two questions, and you not knowing what they're asking because they've obfuscated all that. You sign something. Well well, hell, Paul ought to know what he is, shouldn't he? Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If he's a damn serf and he tells me he is, I'm gonna take him at his word. Well, that's what's going on.
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Surf's up after all. Yep. It really is. I looked up feudalism just to throw it in here. Uh-huh. It says this, noun. The dominant social system in medieval Europe in which the nobility held lands from the crown, that entity comes up, in exchange for military service, and vassals were in turn tenants of the nobles, while the peasants, oft referred to as villanes with an e, which is where the word villain comes from, or serfs, were obliged to live on their lord's land and give him homage, labor, and a share of the produce notionally in exchange for military protection.
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Yep. So then the that's that's the gist of it. Basically in our country, they'd call it 40 acres and a mule. Right. A sharecropping kind of thing like that. If you'd like, you can go in and look in the law dictionary. There's a number of different types of villains, by the way.
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And the reason it's EIN But not nearly all of them here behind the microphones, I would imagine. That's right. Well, not anymore.
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But that because the William the Conqueror came over, he brought all that French culture and laid it overlaid it on England. So that's why you've got all those French words in your vocabulary and things like this. If you go to the law dictionary, it's v I l l e I n, like you said, Villein. But it was pronounced villain. And the wives were the girls were named knaves. Okay? And so Right. The way that, you would enter into this is, is through a contract, oral contract, a parole. That's called a parole contract. Oral contract called an oath of fealty. Are you familiar with that?
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I am. An oath is that, effectively an oath of obedience to the lord? Is that what it is? Uh-huh. Well, you you would they only had
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voluntary servitude, so they couldn't impress you in on involuntary servitude. By the way, that's kinda interesting. In Europe, if you were in involuntary servitude, there was only one way and one way only that you could get out. You got any idea what that might be? No. Tell us, Roger. If you were a bastard and there was always a chance that you were sired by the lord of the manor.
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Well, I probably was. I think my father was probably Lord Fockham, Eric. What do you think?
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Oh, I think so. Definitely. Yes. Yes. Is there anybody but Mountbatten? Okay.
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Oh, who who who? Yeah. No. Lord and Lord Fockham, I think, in my distant forebear forefathers.
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So so, Roger, we got we got to give Roger a Ponzi title, though, haven't we? Because everybody comes on,
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you know, because we all gotta have a Ponzi title when you cut, you know, you I will noodle on it. We'll we'll kick it around. Let me finish with my little deal here. Oh, so They had an oath of fealty in a Monty Python's holy grail, by the way. Mhmm. And, and you can go read about it online. And all of the serfs would gather, around in a circle around the Lord and the incoming villain, and they were witnesses to the contract. And the incoming villain would get on both knees. Now that's really important because you don't get on both knees for anybody except the lord. And in this case, you did it for the lord of the manor. Very symbolic.
And so you get on both knees. You'd put your hands over your head as if you were praying. He would put his hands over you, and you would give an oath to pledge your body and all your worldly goods to the lord of the manor. Now the reason they did that was when you pledged your body, you're pledging your body as property. And all your worldly goods, because now the lord had a property right on you, and you can't own other property. You can control it, but you can't own it. You can't own anything because somebody's got a property right on you. Mhmm. And that's still true today. That's why in The States, if you've got a car that you've paid off, they'll send you a certificate of title. They won't send you the manufacturer statement of origin, the real title. They'll send you a certificate of title. Certificate of title is not the title. That's why if you've got your house paid off and you don't pay your property taxes, they'll sell your house on the courthouse steps on the first Tuesday of the month. You can't It's not fair right in the that they do such a thing, Roger, as they beat us up and kick 10 bells out of us. Absolutely right. All of that stuff, and it's all back to this feudal system. And the change was made in our country on March the ninth of thirty three. Now some people that may not know have probably heard about when Roosevelt seized all the gold.
That was that day. Yep. Okay. Yep. And so the free people before March used real money, gold and silver. They because no one had a property right in them, they could bet, buy and pay for with real money things that they then owned.
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After March So, Roger, we're just we're just coming up to the end of our slot here on WBN in in a minute. It flies. So just yeah. It does. We got another hour after this. So everybody on WBN, you wanna carry on listening. Head on over to Paul English Live, and you'll find links to Rumble, YouTube, Radio Soapbox, and elsewhere where you can carry on listening to the show. And whilst we're here, Roger, which is the website that they go to to get this information? Thematrixdocs.com
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at either d0x or d0cs. Either one works. Thanks to Paul, our Paul. And, boy, there's a ton of information over there. K? Just a ton. Fantastic. If this thematrixdocs.com. Right. If this blows your dress up, go to a section called the new student section, and there's some other really great works over there by Gene Schroeder
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showing you this bankruptcy took place, proving it, and all that kind of stuff. Lots there. We'll be Let me I'll just sign off now here. We're gonna be back again same time next week here on WBN, so keep good. We're gonna just do a little overlay music, some more Beach Boys, and then we'll be back after this brief two minute track, which is called fun fun fun, which, of course, is exactly what we're having here. We'll see you all on WBN next week. We'll carry on after this brief little happy song. Fun. Fun. Fun. So here we are, hour three. I'm here with Roger Sales.
Last hour of the show. Roger, welcome back. I hope you're having fun while that was playing. I was thinking of putting my shorts on and going down surfing. Oh, shit. We don't have any surfing. It was I was I pulled out my board and started waxing it. Just to let you know, it's just gone 10:00 here, and it's just gone dusk. It's light, and it's just going. Yeah. It's amazing. It's very exciting.
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It's does it every year. Here, and we've still in the little daylight left, hour and a half, two hours. So that's the sunlight report from around the world. Where was I when we, ran off on the end of that? I've kind of forgotten. Oh, we were just trying to knock you out of your stride. I was doing it on purpose to knock you out of your stride. I'm I'm terrible about that. Eric. Maybe he can catch us up here. Eric, do you have any questions or comments on what we've covered to this point?
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Not at the moment, but it is very fascinating because, it's a bit like on our passports where there's a p on, British passports, which apparently stands for pauper.
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You don't even realize that. Well, one of my students, few years back got me some sort of a a document over there. And at the bottom, they had all the statuses listed. Do you know you've got six different statuses over there?
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Really? I didn't know that. Because I know that our cars, we we we are not the owner with the keeper. Correct. Same same system. About all thirty years ago, they changed it. Yeah. They put all your driving documents, send it to the, what, with DVLC, which is our sort of driving pay people. And, they sent them back, and people moan because it said you were the registered owner, and they changed it to the registered keeper. Yeah. Well, there you go. Actually,
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you don't own your car anymore. Yep. Very indicative. Well, you don't own anything if you wanna get right down to it, and you understand the but, so that's what they've done is they've turned things around. And somewhere over there, if you'll get with somebody over there that knows your law, because I just don't know your law, I'd love to help figure it out. But this is the same system. It's voluntary servitude. Somehow, they're asking you those questions. And I don't know your paperwork, your culture, and all the stuff enough to give you that, but I've told Paul this before. They're asking you some kind of question where they lock in what status that is.
So, now you've mentioned to me before John Smith, who's the Scotsman that has the
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Yeah. I think he's quite busy with things. There's quite a there's been quite a flurry of people in this arena over the last three to four years, particularly sovereign individuals, all this kind of stuff. There's many of them around. We were talking last week about, the new chartist movement. Although, checking it out, they seem to have broken into they're still altogether, but they've gone into two two separate websites. And I'm trying to get one of them on. It might take several weeks because I've got had no responses yet. This is a sort of frustration. You get an idea and you had to go, I wanna speak to this person right now in five minutes, and, of course, you can't. And then, you know, you have to go and do the cooking and stuff. So I've got all these sort of to do notes down and gathering these people in. But the, last week, we were reading out the Winchester declaration, which is it's really useful. It's only about five pages long, and it was really addressing Magna Carta and the loss of all these things, particularly trial by jury and the power of juries Yes. That they can effectively nullify a law, which means that when they're sitting, it's the greatest apparently, the highest law in the land. It's the highest power in the land. Yes. And, of course, this has all been nudged and pushed aside. And as I you know, when we're talking as well, the great challenge, I always keep coming back to this, is to get everybody in this arena to begin to really break it down. So I and I have I know I've mentioned it to you, but I'm now getting the time to do these things. I've just not had the time for many many years for all sorts of reasons. Right. But I really do want to see a whole series of, like, two to three minute tops, like micro videos, which which, like, address the word person in language that a 14 year old can understand, I e me.
So simple so that we could build up a picture and people go because people glaze over. They do when you talk about any of these things. Like, even in my conversation today with this chap in the street, he's not stupid or anything. But I mentioned a couple of things that I could just see him drift, so I had to stop. There's no point. You know? And it's in real in a one to one situation, like in a room, you can sense when the audience is drifting off, and you have to rein it back in. There's no point pushing it, it seems to me, at that moment in time. Of course, the frustration is I keep looking at my metaphorical life watch on my wrist going, we ain't got enough time. We've gotta get a move on. You know? So there is a it's a great challenge, but there are people to go to. And I've been trying to sort of pull them into this space, Roger, over the next few months if I can do that. So that's what I want to do. Driving for years to simplify the message because it's not difficult to understand.
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It's the complexities that they've added, the layers of complexities they've added to it to obfuscate it so you couldn't understand. Of course. That's what people have a hard time getting, getting their arms around. So what I did, if you're new and this interests you at all, you can go to our website. One particular video that I did about a year and a half ago is particularly effective, I think. And the reason is because instead of telling you what they've done to you with all of these complexities, I show you how they've enslaved you in your mind first. And then when you see that, you can get your arms around it easier.
Now I will, Bertrand Russell, one of your fellow countrymen over there said that they will enslave them in their minds and they'll love their slavery. Mhmm. You know what? They do.
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They do. Oh, they're loving it right now. Good point. Good point. And even there's an even an aspect of my character that's like that too. It's like, I think for all of it, it's an internal fight that you're always dealing with. Like, do I slope off because it's comfortable to do that? Yeah. Or do I stay awake even though it might be painful? The second option is the only one if we're going to get out of this, but it's not always easy to make it every single time repeat. Sometimes I have to just sit down and have a cup of tea, like, five times a day. If John Smith's
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information works, and from what I've heard, it appears to, I don't think he understands why. Okay? He doesn't know why because he's still talking about admiralty law and all. It's not admiralty law, folks. You've been in Babylonian captivity. The Israelites were in captivity for seventy years. We've been in Babylonian captivity for ninety three and a half. Okay. And it's about time to end it. Alright? And we can end it. So what I would invite you to do, Paul, if you could find some of these people that are on the cutting edge of this over there, man, I would love to come on your show and explain this to them so that you can go back to your sources and find out how to unravel it because I guarantee it's there. It's got to be voluntary servitude because everybody has to volunteer into it. They can't tell. If you if you don't have the power to decide what laws you live under and they're telling you which laws you live under, that's tyranny.
There's no other option. That's tyranny. They know very well what happens to tyrants a whole lot better than we do, and they hang at the end of long ropes. Okay? Excuse me, Paul. And so that's why they've done all this to turn it around where they can get you somehow and trick you into giving your birthright up. Now in the big picture let me just finish. I'll just in the big, big picture here, that's what's going on. Esau Edom has devised a way where they can trick you into giving the birthright back. It was voluntary. It's all based on fraud. Learn what's going on and take it back. They can't say anything.
Take it back. They will stand mute.
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Yep. K. Have you ever seen It's definitely
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it's absolutely an integral part of all of this unpickingness and this re removal of these, you know, to most people, invisible chains that are binding them down in good or so. It's the matrix. It's reg it's administrative
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state is what it is. You've been around long enough and studied this much long enough. Have you ever come across anywhere in history or anybody got these guys by the shorthairs? We've got them. We've got them. They stand mute. They can't answer because in answering, they indict and convict themselves. Mhmm. And in standing mute, they convict themselves also because silence deems consent. Thank you, King Henry the eighth.
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Good old Henry. Hey, Paul? Good old Henry. Paul. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think, I I think where Roger was going before the the last musical break was he was talking about the oath of fealty and Oh, yeah. All the things that that encompasses.
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Was there anything else you wanted to expand on about that? There is because this is another real critical part of it. If I tell you you're in a contract and you go, I never entered anything to do with them. Right? Well, this is the contract you're in because you've been in this voluntary servitude in the feudal system because they had a property right on you. When you had children, they were born into the same condition. And when they had children, they were born into the same condition. It's a generational contract that's silent.
So that's the other reason they've got to recognize because wherever in that lineage somebody wants to volunteer out, they can volunteer out and they can't say no. So this is the other thing that's happening, while you're agreeing to the condition, you and your progeny are in it and you're bearing children into it, not knowing what you're doing.
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Yep. Yeah. I get
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that. So if you would like and can find one of your legal guys over there, it might be a good show for you. Let's get on there and have that discussion and see if we can find some common ground. I guarantee you, it's the same system everywhere.
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K? It's not I'm sure you're right. I'm absolutely I'm sure you're right about all of these things. As I said, I think I've I've personally found many of the communicators in this spit in this space. I think there's a the communications challenge is considerable for all sorts of reasons. I think one of them, is the same to do with the banking stuff or anything like this is, first of all, you're bringing up a topic that people don't even know exists. That sounds extreme, but I think generally it's true. It's it's an area that's just because it doesn't exist, no one even inquires into it. They don't ask questions about it. So that's the first hurdle to get used to this. There's this area of life that has been obscured from your view intentionally, and you're not thick. You've just been raised to be thick as we all have.
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Yeah. It's perspective. You've heard people say, well, I'm in financial slavery. Right? Mhmm. No. No, baby. You're in actual slavery. Sorry. The financial manifested.
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Okay? Yep.
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And, yeah, it's just a it's a whole new life when you wake up. Hold it. They don't have the power. I've got the power. They tricked me into giving it to them. It was fraud. Well, hell, get me out of here. How do I get out of this little trap? It's really simple. In our country, you can do it, believe it or not, with one sentence. This is from the state department, by the way. One sentence on one piece of paper to one guy, and you're out of it. And all that has to do is I, Paul English, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. You don't even have to go get it notarized. You can send it in just like that, sign it, date it, or you can put it in an affidavit form, get the signature recognized.
Now it's court testimony. All you do is send that to the secretary of state. And then after that, we recommend that you take that very same affidavit and include it in a passport application. And the passport, they'll issue you a passport that recognizes your new status with the highest official form ID in the country. Now they've got that. That terminology
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that you just mentioned, citizen of The United States. Yes. That's the hook by which they keep you attached to their system and keep you in the condition of servitude.
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We're very unusual in The US because we've got two clear cut delineated statuses. The original one that they are hiding here that we're reaccessing And what came as the federal citizenship, because there was no federal there was no federal entity. The people that had been born and raised in DC and the territories were in essence stateless. They had nowhere to get rights except natural, just God given out of nowhere, but they weren't in the states, and the states were the ones that had that connection. Okay? So they saw this loophole and drove this through, and they used it for all the black slaves.
It was majority 99.9 black slaves. So they took the black slaves who were the object of the plantation owners' property rights, and they put them on DC. And now they're the object of the District of Columbia federal government's property rights. That's why you get civil rights under the fourteenth amendment. The rights that you have among the other people in the society, you don't have the original god given rights with total constitutional protections. That's what they've tricked you out of. Because if you they do that, we don't get our access to oh, well, we still got the second amendment. Well, we gotta go buy it from a licensed dealer and get checked and all that kind of well, that's not shall not be infringed.
Has nothing to do with that. Okay? So they've given you scanty access to the constitution. There's a lot of it you don't have access to. Perfect example, Alex Jones. Everybody in the audience knows who Alex Jones is. He's in a Shouty man. He's a he's a shouty man. Well, that's a good description. He's in a pissing, shouting match with, Bloomberg and all those guys trying to take his network. And then they're suing him, and they go, we've got we own your name. And Alex goes back and through his attorneys claims involuntary servitude in the thirteenth amendment. And they come back and they go, you don't have access to the thirteenth amendment.
Now Alex has never explored that. He said it on the air. I've heard him talk about it. Why don't you have access to the thirteenth amendment? Because you're a fourteenth amendment serve. Question. Right. Yep. Paul.
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So what political status are you referring to? You're referring to national. The and because there's everywhere in the in the patriot community, they're talking about, state citizens. They're talking about man on the land. They're talking about sovereign citizens. They're talking about all this stuff that is absolute patriot mythology, and it gets thrown out, and it gets you in big, big, big, big trouble if you claim to be any one of those. It can. Now what you're talking about is a national. Is national actually a political status that is recognized by the federal government? And I mean recognized in writing.
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It's in their legislation. I can show you where it originated in the nationality act of 1940. Just like everything else they do that's critical, they do it during a distractionary period. This one being the start of World War two. That's also when they set up and passed the United Nations with, out in San Francisco with, machine gun nest at the base of the hotel. So that's when that happened. Now the way they did it was they put it in a statutes at large. Yeah. I don't wanna get too complicated here. It's in a group of law books that's considered to be constitutional. And the statement now this another thing I've learned, Paul.
Never heard anybody else say this. When it's important, they put the hook right at the start. In the fourteenth amendment, all persons born, bang. Over in the Internal Revenue Code, 1.1 dash one a, bang. Over in this other part here I'm talking about in this nationality act of 1940, the heading is there, and then underneath that's about, I don't know, eight or nine, six or eight, just, just, definitions. Very first one, a, a national owes total allegiance to a small s state. That tells you the whole ballgame if you got background. If you don't, you wouldn't recognize it right there in front of you. Remember we were talking about the feudal system. Right? Yes. And the term jurisdiction. Right? Well, that's where it comes from. Have you seen those movies, Paul, where the guy is up, he's he's batting his fist on his armory. Yes. Yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. Right? That's me and Eric. That's you and Eric. Okay. Well, which one's the which one's the liege, ma'am, and which one's the liege lord?
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I don't know. We'll have to have a fight about we'll have to have a joust about that one. Still still to be determined.
[02:21:10] Unknown:
Okay. We're gonna have some, some horse fighting. Well, that's where this term jurisdiction comes from. Okay? Which which state is the smallest state? You you left us angry. I I'm still on allegiance. I'll get there. Okay? Okay. This word allegiance is critically important because the it comes from that word, liege. Liege is the root word of allegiance. And this is the relationship between a liege lord, a serf, and the, or the lord and the liege the other guy, the liege man. This the relationship to that is called protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection.
It's an automatic formula. When either one of those sides is put into play, the other one is there automatically. So I can read that sentence knowing that and go, a national owes total allegiance to a small s state who then owes him total protection. Because allegiance was invoked, protection is required. It's not a choice. It's an obligation and a duty. Now this goes back over a thousand years. Okay? Mhmm. This is straight from the feudal system, and it still is with us today, and that's the evidence of it right there. But if you don't know some of this background, you'll read that sentence and not have any idea what the elder. Okay. Big deal. What's next?
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I mean, if you if we just back up, just if we just look at, say, the last forty five minutes of the words that you've covered. Right? Yeah. The words. Have we it's as if we need a video for each word. Yeah. We do. Seriously. Almost like a series of things. I keep thinking about this. It's like I've mentioned before. If, there's a lottery prize, I don't know if anybody's winning, about £208,000,000 at the moment or something. And I keep thinking it'd be really useful to win that. What would I do with it? And Yeah. And I would probably be at, you know, employing an advertising agency to synthesize this stuff down Yep. Into forty five second adverts, a whole clutch of them that you could watch in any order to get it across. It's it needs that kind of overpowering high-tech media impact to really simplify it and get it in because this is how people consume. The the the disadvantage that we're at, this sounds asshole, what I'm about to say, is that we can read.
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Yes.
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That's a problem because we're surrounded by a lot of people that don't. They just don't read,
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do they? Well, they how about this? How about they can't read? Twenty one percent of the people in The United States in a recent survey are illiterate. Fifty two or three percent can't read past the sixth grade level.
[02:23:51] Unknown:
Well, you know, here the other week, a few weeks back, after speaking with Paul, we covered some of the exam papers from The States and from England in the eighteen hundreds. Yeah. Yeah. From book. Oh, yeah. Yeah? Oh, yeah. I'm seeing shows you how you know, we were old marveling how stupid we've become, and now you drop it down a few more steps. So it's not gonna be, this is the thing, if you are even just going back to Tragedy and Hope, just to illustrate a point, it's a huge book. Now if you've got the aptitude to actually get through that, integrate the information and digest it, and a few weeks later, kinda have your own synthesized precis, your concise view of it. You've done a tremendous amount of work.
And anybody that can comprehend these things, which, of course, we're dealing with this legal force that's been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years, they've specialized in this. We are so distanced from their field of communication, but apparently that's no defense. Well, it well, it isn't. We'll have to accept that it isn't because the evidence is all around us that we've not been able to defend ourselves against this. Ignorially Yeah. We're we're we're at a severe disadvantage. I mean, I I've sort of got a funny little argument about this ignorance of the I understand that it's absolutely true. And we we talked about this a few weeks ago to do with this word ignorance because the the better pronunciation, let me put it that way, is ignorance.
And so it's as if it's saying, you are aware that there's this thing called the law and you have ignored it. Therefore, it's no defense. You should not have ignored it because it's important, and you know that it's important. And therefore, ignorance of the law is no I go, actually, logically, it isn't. It's like, you know, ignorance of a thing that causes you harm. It's no defense because it's still gonna cause you harm. Mhmm. So this way that they have manipulated communications around us, I understand it from their point of view. I'm trying to sort of be in a position where I don't get angry with them. Yeah. Because I found even though, rightfully, we are more than entitled to do so, I've gotta say, I'm gonna I have to find this way of being able to take responsibility for the situation. I'm gonna help you. And, of course, the barrier to that is my lack of of comprehension of all these words and how they interrelate. Mhmm. I think it's getting that I'm saying this to me. Then then we're talking about these people that you've just mentioned that can't even read. I'm gonna try and help a big problem. I'm gonna try and help all you and your audience out because I've got the antidote for this. K? Mhmm. And it's amazingly simple. Alright? What they've done here is amazingly simple.
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Here's another passage. Alice, at the start of Alice in Wonderland, she's, at the bottom of a sloping hill on a blanket and being instructed by her teacher. And Alice, as students do, is daydreaming. And so she daydreams herself up to the top of the hill where there's, like, a big oak tree and a huge branch that's parallel to the ground. And she's sitting there laying on her back on the branch with her cat. Okay? Mhmm. And here's the dialogue. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be. You see? Mhmm.
K. So what she's saying, if I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. Opposites. Dialectics. And then what it is, it wouldn't be because you'd be looking at the fake, you see.
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You know, you just lost the guy in the pub at the back of the bar, don't you? I'm sorry. I know. Well, they I know. No. But I'm pointing this he just glazed over this metaphorical guy's cock. Okay. Well, hell, he's Look. He lost the air. But I I get your drift. I will just I just come in. Yeah. Alice is brighter than him. I can't help it.
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Mhmm. Okay.
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Yeah. She is. What about the This is the chat. Yeah. How do we train ourselves to become stupid enough to get an intelligent idea across? It's almost like it's a real conundrum. It is. I'm gonna try and show you how to get back into reality.
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Okay? Yep. Because there's a method to their madness, and all we have to do is analyze it and undo it. It's not that difficult. K? So if you go back what about John Ruskin? You familiar with him?
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Oh, yeah. Good guy, bad guy. What do you think? Oh, bad guy.
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Yeah. Without a doubt, he was a big famous professor at Oxford. He was, famous, for his, one student, Cecil Rhodes, who he convinced to go around and take over the world and get the English empire back its glory.
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But he had a best friend. He did. I mean, I've got a slight soft spot for Rhodes because Rhodes is the guy that said, this is completely cocky English bloke. Right? So take this with a pinch of salt. But Rhodes said, never forget that as an Englishman, you have won first prize in the lottery of life. There you go. Hey. Isn't that good? It's awful, but it's good. Yeah. I used to say I'm so lucky I was born in The United States Of America. Little did I know that I was born in the service station. I know. I've just bought into I've just bought into branded idiocy by going along with that. So it's it's quite it's quite a thing. But yeah. So let me give you some background here, mister Ruskin, for the audience that may not know, not only did he tutor,
[02:28:59] Unknown:
mister Rhodes, he also had a best friend whose pen name was Lewis Carroll. And twice a week, he would go over to mister Carroll's house who had two daughters and teach them watercolor painting. No doubt he would hang around and have tea with, with, with the the master of the house. And I'm sure that's where this was cooked up. Okay? Mhmm. And so if you go back to the original title of the work, it was through the looking glass. It wasn't Alice in Wonderland. The first title was through the looking glass. And, if you are go through the Looking Glass, you're kinda in a world of opposites, aren't you?
Yeah. You are. Like, like the, the costume ball that lady Rothschild threw, I I don't know, twenty, twenty five years ago. You can go look it up on the Internet, see their hideous costumes. And in one of the articles, it says, lady Rothschild was so clever, Paul. She wrote the invitations backwards, so you had to look at them in a mirror to read them.
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What a clever gal.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
I'm telling you, she's pretty slick. Now what they're doing here is they're using a little trick called equivocation. There's actually a word for it. And, if you go look up as I did, a listener called in and told me this one day. God bless the listeners. They've given me so many pieces of the puzzle. So if you go to Webster's 1828 dictionary and look at equivocation, you've heard the term equivocating. So if you're uncertain about a a decision and there's three or four options options, you can be said to be equivocating between the options. Alright? Well, this isn't equivocating. This is equivocation.
And so what equivocation in their line of thinking is is they take a word, and then they take the exact 180 degree opposite definition, and they attach that definition in your subconscious mind to that word. So your subconscious mind controls 90% of your day. Your conscious, only 10. So your subconscious overrides the conscious. Now here's the biblical reference. James one eight, New Testament, a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. It doesn't say some of his ways. It doesn't say part of his ways. It says all of his ways. And that's how the greatest double minded man. Equivocation thing, Roger, reminds me in part, it's got a parallel in,
[02:31:40] Unknown:
the revelation of the method that Michael Hoffman talks about Probably. With twilight language. That that things are embedded in a reversed manner Yep. So that you're actually you end up mentally enslaving yourself because you think it means one thing. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's what the two you've been actually programmed to do something else because you couldn't break the word down. That's what the two questions are. Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident?
[02:32:05] Unknown:
That's what they've done is they've equivocated these opposite definitions. You don't know what they're asking you. You don't understand they're controlling you or how they're doing it, and you're giving them volunteering into servitude. Well, hell, I'm this, and they go, oh, jolly good. That's great. We'll just control the rest of your life. Shit. They wink, wink, and laugh at the synagogue. Come on. A dumb goy. I'm hell. We ask them if they're slaves, and they say yes, and they give us now don't think this is tiddly winks here. What we're talking about right here is the root of everything.
This is the tip of the power root of the Rothschild Rockefeller axis right here, because now they get a property right on you. They don't have to let you know you're a slave or really treat you like a slave because what they're doing is here's the first credit spout of the entire financial system. You say, is there money? No. There's no money. There's only credit. This is the credit. You're born. You get a birth certificate. We've got the exact procedure from a hospital in Austin, Texas. They take the birth certificate and use it in a secondary fashion as a commercial document called a warehouse receipt.
A warehouse receipt is a piece of paper that actually takes on the quality of the good, and the good takes on a shadowy existence
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and becomes the paper. Now they can take 35 videos now, Roger. We're up to 35. Do you see it? You see the thing is that it's to do with the facility, which is secondhand to you. There's not a criticism. It's an observation. Right? Because it's fantastic what you're saying. But I'm I'm sat here looking at how do I break this down into headlines, points, and distribute them to build it up. That's really I mean, it's gonna be all it's work. But, I mean, this is what this is what market research you know, how do we boil it down? By the way, just a quick shout out to everybody. Someone's just written in, one of the chats, about the phone numbers here scrolling across the screen. You can call into the studio right now and speak to Roger or anybody here and put a question or an observation. We've got about twenty seven minutes left in the show, but I'm looking at the studio right now. We can take our calls. So if you've got a telephone and you wanna call, you've got the urge, give in to it and call in. We'd be happy to hear from you. Even if it's just to tell us the color of your curtains. I'm serious. So whatever. But back to you, Roger. Okay. So now we've got the warehouse receipt, which represents you. By the way, when the,
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birth certificate is printed, they put it in a bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Mhmm. So they take that in that capacity and they attach it to the bonds. Now isn't excuse me. Correct me if I'm wrong here, Paul. Isn't bond the root word of bondage? I think it probably is. I'm not going to dispute. Alright. Just a point. Just a point. And so they attach the bond. They take the country's bonds. They sell them into the bond market. That's a worldwide debt market. The bond market's five to 10 times bigger than the stock market. Okay? Well, the stock market's got big buildings and manufacturing and trucks and all that stores. What is the what's the bond market represent?
Duh.
[02:35:16] Unknown:
Yep. You
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and your future income. So this is the origin. Yes. This is the origin of the financial system. This is the origin of the credit spout right here.
[02:35:29] Unknown:
So then people say that we're not slaves, of course, they're actually confirming that they are.
[02:35:35] Unknown:
Yes. Now then becomes the what it really took me years to figure out, the Achilles heel of their system is the tax system because they've now got to go and collect your taxes to pay the bondholders their coupon payments. And so many people are dumping bonds in countries and have been for years. And the Federal Reserve's got no other option but to buy them up. If they leave on to unpurchased bonds, they pile up and everybody knows it's totally bogus. So they've got to buy their own bad paper. And and I've read that they own 48% of their own paper right now. So there's where they shove it off into banks. It's all these one and one half percent performing bonds. They don't wanna hold them. And now they're shoving them off into all these banks like that big California bank that went bankrupt couple of years ago.
55% of their balance sheet was in these bonds. SVG, was it, or something? It was something out there. Yeah. A couple of them went under, but the Yeah. The big one pulled the other ones under because the Federal Reserve loaded them up with these done damn nonperforming bonds. God. They're such bad lads. So that's why we're in a bad trouble in the bond market. That's the big alarm right now. Do you understand what's going do you know what the Japanese carry trade is? No. I did I did, but it's gone out of my head. Go on, please. Well, Japan in the last decade remember they had a lost decade back in the eighties, I think, when the real estate market crashed? And they had to lower they lowered the, the interest on their bonds to zero.
So now all the big, synagogue buddies, they can go there and borrow, well, a 100,000,000. We'll borrow a 100,000,000, hypothetically, and we're gonna come back and buy US bonds at 5%. Well, let's see. I got no percent over here, and I'm making 5% over here off a $100,000,000 for literally just switching that. That's good work if you can get it. Yep. Okay. Well, that's unraveling. Japan's got so much inflation. They're having to raise the rates on their bonds, And it's jacking up the whole system. K? It's unwinding it. That's why the bond market right now is incredibly unstable. We just got downgraded. Videos now. 40 videos. Just got downgraded by Moody's last week to, from triple a to double a. And Moody said, if you wanna get back up to triple a, you've gotta raise the interest rates on ten, fifteen, and twenty year bonds. 30. Ten, fifteen, thirty year bonds. So there's the big problem right now, and it is the whole problem because it undermines and underlies everything. This is the basis of the financial system.
You know, in the in the Bible where it talks about the leaven of the Pharisees, you know, leaven is leaven is yeast. Right? Well, what they've done is they put us into this condition in '33. And from since '33 to now, they've leavened up $37,000,000,000,000 worth of debt. How about that for some leaven?
[02:38:39] Unknown:
It's quite good, really. I don't have a business that that's worth $37,000,000,000,000. No. No.
[02:38:44] Unknown:
And they don't need write a check out for that effect, and you could cash it at the Royal Bank of Fockham Hall if you'd like. Power of what we've got here. It's all based on fraud. If we could ever get this message out there, their bonds are worthless. They're all based on fraud. Everything that they've done since the bankruptcy of The United States in '33, all their vast family fortunes, all based on fraud. Okay? Let me let's see if we can talk a word. I hear this word floating around. Let's see if we can bring it up. How about retribution? Yep.
K. So, yeah, it's it's really important information. Don't I don't wanna give you a drink out of a fire hydrant. I'm trying to simplify this as as basic as I can. And you get the basic you get well, you know, if I was to ask you, what do you know about Babylonian merchant law? Well, you'd probably say, well, hell, I don't know a damn thing about it. Well, that's one of the moving parts. That, by the way, we call the uniform commercial code. You've got it over there too. I don't know what you call it. That's nothing more than the Babylonian merchant law. That's it was called the law merchant for thousands of years. The Bible continually first to the merchants of the earth. Well, what law do you think the merchants of the earth is?
Well, I think it must be admiracy. Come on.
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I have a question for Roger. Can you hear me? Hi, Patrick. Yeah. Patrick. This is Patrick. Roger. Roger. Patrick. Patrick. Hi, Patrick. I've heard you on previous shows. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing quite well. I I wanted to know if you, looked much into the biography of Charles Lindbergh senior.
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I know a little bit about him. I don't think I've ever read it. He knew who they were. It was by his one vote. I think we didn't go into the, the League of Nations and all that. His son, the other famous aviator, whose baby was kidnapped. Do you know the sheriff in that county in New Jersey where that happened? Do you know who what his last name was? A very unusual German name named Volker. Oh, like the the, treasury sec Kinda. Well, like the head of the Federal Reserve. Yeah. That guy. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:40:58] Unknown:
Because I I my my grandfather's family were close. They were actually married in with the first wife of, Charles Lindbergh senior was a Lafond, and my grandfather's it was his father's great aunt that was married to him, and she died. And then, he had two daughters, and then he remarried and had Charles junior. Mhmm. I I have a book you should read.
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I I've got bad eyes. I can't hardly read anymore. So Well, okay.
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Oh, excuse me. Hold on. Anyway, it's a it's a book about Lindbergh called Lindbergh of Minnesota by Bruce Larson. Uh-huh. He's a great American. Yes. Yes. It's I've got a hand signed copy by his son Oh, how nice. Junior Yeah. Here. He he was the one who wrote the minority opinion against the Federal Reserve Act back in 1913.
[02:41:55] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. They were against that. You know, Paul, earlier in the show, you were talking about the eighteen eighties and something to do with financial stuff. Yeah. And, I wonder if you know that from about the eighteen seventies on until 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was passed and they were ceded, that we were on the tariff system. We actually had an honest monetary system, and I read a book years ago called Goodbye April 15, and it had a a a cartoon from the time. And it showed the senate and the well of the senate. And in there, they had alligators. And the line was the tariffs were bringing so much money into the country, they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate.
Of course. And another good job a good job of the Federal Reserve System didn't corrupt the senate. Right? What led it up to it. And, of course, now they set up there this slave system.
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And you you you go back to the Charles Yeah. One one thing. Charles Lindbergh put forward a bill to abolish the US senate Okeydaddy.
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Around 1913.
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Okay. Well, he was a great American. You're lucky that you're related to him in some way, shape, or form. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the the big thing is, have you ever heard of the Commerce Club of Chicago, otherwise known as the Merchants Club of Chicago?
[02:43:20] Unknown:
Not really, but it's probably won't. I have not, but it's probably why the Merck, the, commodities exchange was located up there. Go ahead.
[02:43:29] Unknown:
Yeah. They were the main backers behind the Federal Reserve Act. Uh-huh.
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And the ones that were against it, like the Astors, they got free tickets on the Titanic.
[02:43:40] Unknown:
Yay.
[02:43:42] Unknown:
That worked out well. Wow. I love the fireworks show. Mhmm. Yeah. Yep. So,
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so any any questions or anything on what we've covered so far? Well, you were mentioning the law schools being taken over, and I I in reading this biography about Charles Lindbergh, he studied at the Michigan State Law School Yeah. Which was, like, one of the But only law schools
[02:44:07] Unknown:
at the time in the Great Lakes area. Well, see, at that time when he lived, they had not taken them over yet. It was not till the as the Federal Reserve started taking over all the as, mister McFadden said a hundred years ago, they control all the important offices here in Washington. That was one of his statements and one how how much control you think they got now?
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Oh, it's yeah.
[02:44:30] Unknown:
Okay. Follow-up on forward, Roger, with with the knowledge base that you've got and with this critical area of understanding, do you think that it would be possible to have a mass communication campaign that would bring hundreds of thousands of people into the fold here?
[02:44:50] Unknown:
Huge numbers. I I think it might, and the the the events in the future are certainly shaping that way. And, it's people have got to be in a condition to where they're looking for answers or open to them. I've been shocked. Let me give you a recent example, Paul. You and I were both, recently on Jeff Rents. You were on there one night. I was on there too. Yep. Do you know we did not get one person out of those two Rents appearances that's come to the show? I mean, I'm shocked. I'm literally This is well clabbergasted.
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Actually, because I think it comes down to formatting. I mean, what we're doing here is as if we're sat in a bar or in our case, a pub, and we're having this talk. And everybody's earwigging in on it, and it's great, and it's got this kind of format to it. And it's a and it's a particular kind of construct with live radio or live audio, what we're doing. Mhmm. But when we get into the really detailed stuff, it's not the right format to really make it drive home because there's so I don't think it is because if it was, it would have created the the response already. And I've said this about there's so many people that I know, you're one of them, whose knowledge base is very deep, very accurate, and involved and vital, and yet there's this gap. There's a communications gap Yep. Which is not to do with the lack of knowledge or the lack of truth. That's we've got so much of that. We've got almost, like, too much of it. It's it's finding a way, formats, and platforms that can put it in so that it's an absolute blast to do it.
And there's something about about that that's that's, in my view, that's still missing. I include myself. Right? I want I wanna get everybody in England to not to understand that they need to own the bank directly. I mean, you know, these might sound like asinine things. They're But the fact is all this technology that they've created, it's never the argument is, oh, you need to have an ID. No. No. No. No. I need to have I want to own the bank. I want everybody. You've got we've now got computers to track databases in real time so we can all own the bank now, and you can shut up shop. We don't want a private bank. Thank you very much. Course nobody even knows what I'm talking about. It's not just me. It's anybody that talks about this. What are you talking about? Of course we need all that stuff. No. No. No. We don't need it like this. But they don't know what it's like. So what appears completely logical to you because, you see, you're a problem, Roger.
Oh, boy. I'm a big problem for them. Your problem is you're you're so involved in it, right, because you have to be and others like you, your colleagues have to be involved in it to be able to get to the nub of it. But by the time you turn around to the audience, they're 10,000 miles away, and they're going, who's that bloke over there telling all that complicated stuff? That's that's the impact on them. So what makes sense in our peer group, which is vital so that we don't go insane,
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doesn't translate well to the crowd down the street, and it's that. It's like a bridging agency that's required to go, this is how we're gonna get older by the short and curlies. Well, I found the approach that seems to work and it's very simple. K? Yeah. And I'll come back to this equivocation thing. I wanna finish up on that because it's really important. It's where you can get your power back. But you take the equivocation, the opposites, and you present them opposite. Say, hey, Paul, are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? Well, it's a pretty simple question on the surface, you know, but down deep, we said, well, they're the same thing, aren't they? Well, not quite. One of them is in a condition of voluntary servitude, and the other one's free.
Here's another one. Paul, let's see if I can get you to identify. We're gonna have a short conversation. Could I see if I can get some agreement out of you? There there's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Is that true? Yes. I think so. Okay. Well, which one are you? Well, now that I'm semi educated, I'm a slave. Okay. Then I'd say, well, would you would you find it interesting if I could show you how you've been enslaved and how to expensively and nonconfrontationally get out of it?
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Yes. I would. What's in it for me if I become free, Roger? Well, there's a lot of things.
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Well, you remove yourself from the administrative act and and government in your country, and you go back under God given laws, rights, and and god owed duties. Would that appeal to you? Yes. I think it would. Okay. There you go. Now what if you answer the other way? You go, well, well, no. I'm free. Right? I'm American because I know I'm free. Right? Okay. Well, Paul, could you very concisely tell me the things that you can do without a license, a permit, or permission since you're so free?
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I think I can whistle without a license.
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So there's another it's there's some simple ways to do it. Okay? And the object that I've really had to struggle with for a lot of years, I've been doing this a long time, okay, is to simplify this complex product
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situation. It's easy what they've done, but, boy, how they've set it up and screwed with your mind and everything else is incredibly complex. I have a question for you again. Okay. You you used to work at a radio station, I take it. I did. Okay. Now what do you think about this? Because Paul's acting, like, he he can't do this, but he he can distribute through radio stations his his ideas. The problem being you go for a license. What you you go to Ofcom. He's gotta go to Ofcom. Right? Or direct on the Internet. Well, not on the Internet, but say you wanna set up a radio station. Yeah. You need a license. Right? Now you talk about licenses. Well, it depends on what your political status, I guess, is, doesn't it? Right. Now how do you get out of that, though? That's that's the question. And and you're in The States. It's a little different with the FCC and interstate and intrastate. Well, no. They're it all applies to all agencies. All of them can only, with the exception of one, All of them apply,
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regulations to residents. That second question. The only one that's different is title 26. Title 26 is IRS. And because there are a couple of constitutional taxes, they had to alter it and put both political statuses in the IRS regulation. That regulation, if you wanna look it up, is 26 CFR, it's code of federal regulations, 26 CFR 1.1 dash one parenthesis small a. 1.1 dash one parenthesis small a. Remember, Paul, when I said they put everything at the front? This is one of the key ones right here. And we agreed a minute ago, there's only two statuses, free and slave. Right? So this is that regulation.
When you open up the book, it's right at the top right page. Again, right at the front where nobody's gonna be looking for it. They're very slick, these guys. K? So it reads, I'm quoting here verbatim, an income tax is owed by all individuals. It's very important that you recognize it doesn't say persons because persons can be corporate. Corporations have total tax different. Taxing schedules, Individuals, that is all human persons are individuals in the law because the rights and the duties are indivisible in the same entity.
And the word indivisible comes from the individual comes from the word indivisible and this concept right here. So it says an income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of The United States or residents, that's the slaves, and to the extent of eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, all nonresident alien individuals. So your immediate question is, what in the hell is Jose the tomato picker doing paying income tax? Did you know that in Russia, they don't pay income tax? Oh, I didn't know that, but if you'll let me finish here, this is very important. So what they've done is they took the original state citizen, relabeled it national, and then the income tax code, they put in there as a nonresident alien.
Because you're nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment and the state wherein they reside, and you're alien from District of Columbia and the foreign federal government from the state government. So that's where it is right there. And, that's how tricky they are. K? So if you don't know that, how many tax attorneys, judges, anybody has looked over that and seen that and thought it was a tie Jose the tomato picker instead of Roger the national freeman.
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We got about five or seven minutes left, guys, just to let you know because we're not
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the complexity of it and how they've gone to these great lengths. And, of course, that one is what kept me going all those years. And later on, I understand the tax leg is the Achilles heel of these people. If they don't collect the taxes and pay the bondholders, this whole system goes south, and everybody knows you did it. K? Yep. So, yes, you said you wanted to ask a question?
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Oh, yeah. Well, I just wanted to mention that in Russia, they don't pay income taxes. They also have to have an internal passport to travel between the Oblast states, you could call them, in the federation and then a separate international passport.
[02:54:39] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, I'm a real big fan of Putin and and and Russia, and I'm sorry to see him get so demonized like Germany did.
[02:54:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Me too. It's a it's it's a lot more free when you go over there. You understand it. But at the same time, they'd have that the level of European type, you know,
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traffic cameras on every every street. Yeah. Oh, I'd expect them to do that. Hey. You for the EU and and you guys to go back into the damn EU over there, Paul, with STARMA, you reverse Brexit. And thinking that Russia wants to come attack and take over Europe, what the hell do they want with Europe?
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They don't have any more resources. It's deranged. It's deranged. But, unfortunately, you and I and people here are in the minority. If you speak to people in England, they they swallow the news down because they it's and it this is with everything. No one has the question mark as their best friend. Why not ask a question? Oh, I couldn't do that. They're so out of practice with it. I mean and although you haven't heard this, when Starmer was asked about this, this is what he said. Right? I I I I I I I That that really is him, by the way. That really is him. Right? And I I I can't stop pressing that. I can't stop pressing the button. You know his first role was in the film Mars Attacks, Roger. This is how he sounded as a young man. Listen. That's apple. That's the prime minister of this country. That's it. That's the height of his comprehension and his communication skills. Incredible. That's cool.
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So let me just polish off here on this equivocation thing. It's very important. Because all you need to do is go back and identify these words and go implant the proper definition in your subconscious. Now your subconscious and your conscious are working together. And as, doctor Bruce Lipton said on Joyce Riley, well, on this subject, he said, when your subconscious and your conscious are working together, it is empowering. And that's what our process does. It reempowers you. So every time you find one word and go attach that proper definition, you get a little slice of reality back.
And if you go through it and maybe go through our process, you go back and get the rights you were supposed to be given by God at birth that they stole from you and then tricked you into agreeing with them.
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So it is You can see it. I can see it. You can see, Roger, can't you? You can see how this has to be broken down into lots of my little mouth sized lumps. How how do you think about it, Patrick? I mean, I don't think this is necessarily the first time you've come across stuff like this, but what do you think about it with regards to the communications challenge? Because it's considerable, I think.
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What do you mean by that, like, communications challenge?
[02:57:30] Unknown:
Well, how do you take how are we to take what are ideas that we've become familiar with and make them more broadly understood by the intelligent layman? I'm gonna operate on the basis that there are many out there. I think there are as well. I'm not that pessimistic, but it's just a way of reaching them. It's it's not that they're not intelligent.
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It had doesn't have anything to do with that. Which is reach. What I've found. It's got something to do with their spirituality. And it goes back to the old testament where it says, because they have not a love of the truth, I will send them strong delusion. They'll believe a lie. Oh. Those are the people that don't see it. It's the ones that are truth seekers that's that it resonates with
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immediately. Alice in Wonderland. You were talking about Alice in Wonderland. Yes. Are are you familiar with, Liddell Scott's, Greek English lexicon, Oxford English, Greek English lexicon? I'm sorry. I'm not. Okay. Well, he, it was Scott or no. No. No. Henry Liddell. His daughter was Alice in Alice in Wonderland Oh, okay. That that it was based on. I see. And the Greek, English lexicon is is just this huge book
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of the definitions
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of Greek and words into English from the ancient Greek.
[02:58:49] Unknown:
Anyway, I just thought I'd put that forward to you because you you're into that kind of stuff. Well, you know what? I'm into words because as I remember, I used to say words mean things. Well, you should get a copy of it. It's like $200, but it's not I can't I I have a difficult time to read it. Well, you'll have a real hard time with it because it's in small print and it's huge. Let's just I'll just wrap up now, guys. Roger has been fantastic having you. I think it's about about a year or so. People probably don't remember, but in the early days when I got going over a year and a half ago, we had you on. Could we arrange it so you could come back, say, once a month or something like that? How does that work for you? Paul, I that'd work fine with me if you'd like to do that. I love you and the audience, and I'm into listen. My my duty on this earth is to teach and preach this message. It's a ministry of sorts, but I don't use it as much as a ministry as a freedom and then tie everything that has to do with your freedom back to biblical. And it's all there. Okay? And, yeah, I love doing it. So just invite me, man, or set up something we can work with. We'll talk about it.
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We will do that. Fantastic. You've been listening to Roger Sales, who's been, a fantastic guest the last couple of hours. We've been, Roger's been exhibiting his brains here, and it's been wonderful, wonderful stuff. And as we just said, he'll be back again in a few weeks' time. Thank you all so much for being in YouTube and Rumble and the comments and everything. And, we will, of course, be back at the same time next week. Don't know we've got lined up, but I'm working on having a guest every week in this, last two hour slot to keep on tunneling into these really important matters. So God bless to you all. Have a cracking week. Keep good, and keep smiling, and keep having, and have a good laugh as Eric would say. We'll be back again same time next week. Thank you, everyone. Bye for now.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Technical Troubles and Show Introduction
Discussion on Magna Carta and Legal Status
Mental Illness and Social Observations
Political Promises and Distrust
Education and Authority
Nigel Farage and Political Critique
Local Council and Bureaucracy
Introduction of Roger Sales
Historical Context and Feudalism
Legal Definitions and Personhood
Voluntary Servitude and Legal Status
Financial System and Bond Market