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In this 85th episode of Paul English Live, host Paul English navigates through a myriad of topics with his characteristic wit and humor. The show kicks off with a discussion about the ongoing heatwave in England and the technical challenges faced during the previous week's broadcast. Paul introduces the theme of the day, inspired by a quote from Edmund Burke, which sets the stage for a conversation about the importance of good people associating to counteract the actions of bad men. The episode also features lively banter with co-hosts Eric and Patrick, touching on everything from the peculiarities of English weather to the eccentricities of historical figures.

The discussion takes a turn towards practical living solutions, exploring the idea of living in caravans or mobile homes as a means of escaping the constraints of modern life. The hosts delve into the concept of private membership associations and the potential for creating a guild to protect individual freedoms. The episode is peppered with humorous anecdotes, including a memorable clip of a man claiming to speak an alien language, and a thought-provoking discussion on the hidden costs of cashless transactions. As always, the show is a blend of insightful commentary and light-hearted entertainment, leaving listeners both informed and amused.

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Hooray. Hooray. The May 1. Outdoor romantic relations begin today.   It's May   2025.   This is Pell 85.   Welcome to the show.   The heat wave still continues here in jolly old England. But is it nearly over? And do we care?   More interesting weather news   coming   up.   Hi, everyone, and,   welcome back.   A week's a long time in broadcasting.   If only we had done some last week. We were beset, plagued with certain technical issues for the first thirty minutes, but fingers crossed. And looking at everything, it seems to be going okay for now. So that's that's pretty good.   What has happened in the last week? Quite a few things, I suppose, but I can't really remember. I've been busy with other things really for the last three or four days. Got up today running around trying to get everything ready for the show. Always fun. Always interesting.  

Always a challenge.   Now we've got a picture for today's show. Oh, I should do the what's PEL? I just said PEL there, didn't I? I'm using my own acronyms. That's just short for Paul English live. That's what that's what you're listening to right now, possibly.   I'm Paul English. I'm quite alive. We've got the rest of the crew in tow. I'll bring them in momentarily.   So, yeah, that's what Appell is. I don't know what it is really. Paul English live.   And, we're here on WBN three two four with you for the next couple of hours. We're also streaming and running on various other assorted problems, apparently,   glitch free.  

For now. You never can tell. Internet broadcasting is always a delight. It's absolutely remarkable stuff. We're streaming out on Rumble right now. So if you're the sort of person that likes to chat and get involved in chat rooms and all that kind of stuff, head out on to Rumble and, join us there that would be great.   We're also on YouTube, yes, surprisingly, still.   Although, we don't say very naughty things. This is a family show,   maybe though for a slip, sort of slightly strange families that kind of thing but, it is a family show. We're going out on the radio soapbox, we're going out on,   oh what is it now? Another one. Eurofog radio? How about that?  

And all sorts of other places really. So that's fantastic. So the whole world can hear or those of us that want to tune in. Anyway, I hope you've had a cracking week.   Tonight's theme or today's theme or this afternoon's theme depending on what time you're listening.   I've got a lovely picture came across a lovely picture last week,   and it had this writing all over it. I thought, oh, I want the picture without the writing and then I read the writing and I thought, no, we'll keep it on because the quote is from one of my favorite historical figures, a chap called Edmund Burke who did lots of writing the late seventeen hundreds.   You may have heard me say here on the show in the past, he was the only person in England, just about the only one, that opposed the French Revolution   and,   wrote a long sort of essay on it called Letters on a Regicide, a regicide being, of course, the killing of the king, Louis the sixteenth, was it? See, I'm forgetting already.  

Burke was about the only man who stood opposed to that, but this is a quote from him   and it forms   we have a funny sort of theme here. We kind of return to it, I guess, on and off as we run through the show, and we've got some news and all sorts of other bits and bobs.   But it says this,   when bad men combine,   the good   must associate.   Else, they will fall one by one   an unpitted sacrifice   in a contemptible   struggle.   A contemptible struggle and I would suggest, dear listeners, that you're probably slightly, if not more than slightly, aware   that that's exactly what we're involved with. A contemptible struggle and even even the postman's beginning to wake up and take notice to all of this. Anyway, let's introduce you to the other chaps that are in the room. I think Patrick is joining us possibly in hour two, those of you who are regular listeners. He sent me a little note saying he's got to go out and threaten some cheese or something like that. But, Eric, good evening to you. How are you doing this Friday evening, and welcome to the show? Hi. Mustn't grumble. And, this is a family show, so there will be no innuendos.  



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I mean, I've written down the gags that I mustn't tell. And if there's an innuendo there, I'll just whip it out straight away. So there we go. So,  

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I'm going now. I'm off home already.   I can't cope, Eric. It's all too much.   I was actually I was talking to someone the other day and I was observing. I thought, who was that? It doesn't really matter. I just thought, what's happening, Eric? You may not have detected this but I think I've keenly detected this is that the more shows we do, the closer you're moving towards your blue routine. I'm getting slightly anxious. I can just feel it coming on all the time. Because I always know that comics, they have a yeah. They have a clean routine, don't they, for family fun and then they have the other one for the working men's clubs. And we're getting close to working men's club territory. Not that I would object. Not that I would object.   Not that, of course, that I'm a working man, and not that they even have working men's clubs anymore. They probably just wiped most of them out, I guess. But,   yeah. How's your week been?  



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Mass and Mass and Grumble. It's been rather nice. What beautiful weather.   I mean, it's really hot yesterday.   Went for a cycle, came back. Now I've never had this before. Cramp in both legs. Now have you ever had that? You've got two, have you?   Yes. I've actually well, I was I I went out with two. I don't know when I come back with two, but   when I got back, I, you know, I was sitting there with a cup of tea, and suddenly, it hit me.   And,   I've never had I mean, normally, you get sort of cramped at the back of your calves, but you don't get cramped sort  

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of top of your sort of above your knees. Weird it was. And, I could hardly walk for about five minutes, and it just went. But, cramped is just need more chocolate bars. You probably need more chocolate bars and things like that. Yes. I used to what did I used to we used to call it we used to call it, you know when you're riding along and you run out of gas? Yeah. Yes. I mean, you know, when you've really been pushing it. We used to call it, getting,   getting the bunk,   which is Yeah. Of course. It's got got other meanings. I know. I know. Yes. It does have other meanings over here in England. It probably means nothing to an audience outside of England. But yeah. So I've got the bunk meant,   I've I've just I've just completely run out of energy. Yeah. So I remember eating lots of glucose by the roadside when I used to go up a hill. I just sort of fall off my bike and go, oh, I've got about to collapse.  

I better stick some sugar in or something. Did you do that? Did you ever cram glucose in?  

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I used to. I don't now, but I used to. But, no. What it was is,   I was just, a bit unfair, I think. That's the real reason. And because, I mean, I haven't been cycling through the winter, and now this weather's with us. I'm I'm out cycling again, and it takes a little bit of time to get your seat legs back again.   And,   also, I didn't realize how hot it was yesterday yesterday.   It was not warm. It was hot, And I must be perspiring too much. And, of course, that's where you get the cramp because it's lack of salt that does it. So I quickly had some salty water, and I was,   okay again. But,   yes. It's,   also, I came I bought I went down the road just to buy a few bits, and I came back with a lot of shopping. So I had a very heavy backpack   on me. So that that didn't help. Really?  

Mhmm. Wow. Apart from that, you know, everything was fine.   But,   now I think that this is going on, isn't it? I mean, into the next week, we're gonna have a nice heat wave, and, I can't wait for the hose pipe bands. Can you?  

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I don't know. I don't want it. Yeah. I suppose. Yeah. It's gonna be good.   But, I suppose anybody outside of England, every time they tune into the show, we always kick off with the weather, don't you? And you may think that this is all we talk about. Well, you'd be right. This is basically in England all every anybody talks about.   I've still had a few more calls. I've had a few more chats over the last week where people have come up to me and they're very anxious about how bad the weather's about to turn even though it's brilliant right now. They're not thinking about how great it is now. They're just going, oh, it's bound to get worse. I'm going,   well, can't you just enjoy what we've got now? Yeah. We've got now. I'm it was I had a day. Yes. I had to go to an event yesterday,   and,   quite a few people were there, and we kind of booked a pub up, as you do,   a fantastic garden pub that I've been going to for years and it's under new ownership.  

It's quite interesting as well actually because in the it's now how is this pub? When was it built?   Early sixteen hundreds. It's quite new around here. Oh. So early sixteen. Yeah. It started off as a morgue   for the keeping of cadavers, that kind of thing. Seriously. Yes. And, the new landlady is a lady called Heidi.   And, of course, every time over here in England, if you say a girl's name's Heidi, it makes you think of that little girl with pigtails running around in the Swiss Alps, doesn't it? I bet it I bet it did   you. Yeah. So,   and when we first bumped into her, I wondered where her pigtails was, but she assured me that she wasn't Swiss or had anything to do with that. So obviously her parents had a good sense of humor, you know. But,   the weather what was it yesterday? It was a a mere 73 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday, which was just sensational.  



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Oh, yeah. It's a little bit warm around here. But, today is a re election sorry. Election day, isn't it?  

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Is it for what? Who who's getting erected? Loc local local,  

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elections, I think.   Because I actually really, I like to go out my way not to vote. So I really,   you know, I really   thought about it, and I thought for about three milliseconds, I thought, nope.  

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But nobody knocks at the doors now, do they? You you know, you you can't really have a a chinwag with them because they don't they don't come around canvassing anymore. Where? They're in my way. They're just probably using AI to rig the vote. I mean, why bother even wasting? They can't be bothered now to do a pretense of democracy. Not that I care, but, yeah, I didn't you see, I I'm so clueless. I didn't even know it was going on. I have no idea about these things. Is it just in your neck of the woods, or it's everywhere in England? Is there is the whole England full of fever pitch about local elections? What's going on? Some are, some are not. I think I I don't understand it. It's for the local council elections, apparently. And  

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and, really, it's when you get what gets me I got a poster through the door, and it said, this is the change we need. And I thought, oh, something about usury.   About canceling it.   Nope. Nope. And it's the same   rubbish   as they have had on local elections   all the time when they'd more place,   when they clean the pavements of dog poo   and clean up all the potholes.   No. You don't, do you?   No. Do you? I just need to look.  

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Yeah. We have a lot of dog owners down here because I'm I'm I'm on the coast   and,   lots there's one woman.   She's not young. Let's put it that way. She's a seasoned individual. She seems reasonably fit, but she's got this kind of brand new sheepdog. I saw her about four months ago, and she said, oh, yeah. I've just got this. And I thought, is that wise?   Sheepdogs, you know, need to they need to be let loose, don't they? I always think it's really Yes. Of all the dogs that you could buy, I would want a sheepdog the most and it would be the last dog on earth I would buy because it would be wrong for the dog. It would be absolutely wrong. Not I'm a dog guy. I've never had a dog in my life, you know. You're right. But,   I, you know, I just haven't I wasn't brought up with them. I was No. There was a lot of people that said, yeah, I brought their dogs. Are you gonna get a dog? No. I don't think so.  



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Why not? Too much water. I'd  

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end up falling in love with it, and then it broke my heart when it died. I'm serious. The other day. Right? I I then, I was out for a lovely walk. Lovely. It was lovely, everybody. You know what loveliness is like. You remember that? And, beautiful day again. I think it was Tuesday.   I went for a long walk about eight miles, I did on Tuesday, which was fun. I was out for three and a half hours. It's fantastic. Wow. And,   I walked,   I headed due west from here. So I'm walking into sun, so I've got a wonderful tan. I look like Engelbert Humperdinck and,   and I grew the sideburns as to a nice sort of oily tan, you know. But I'm walking back along this brook which we used to ride our bikes around and it was just it was absolutely fantastic. It was   fantastic. It was brilliant because there are all these flutterbys, butterflies for normal people, fluttering about and doing their business as it were, getting to know one another, that kind of thing, the birds and the bees, which was just amazing. Of course, it's all wrong. They're doing it far too early because this weather's just weird. I've never known an April like it. It's got to be the best or possibly the worst April, depending on how you wanna look at it, ever because the sunshine's just not stopped for about four weeks down here. It's just been stunning. Same here. And now it now it's is it same with you? It's just got warm now, which makes it even weirder.  

And, I saw one of those benches as you do, and I thought, I will park my rear end on that. And, I was just gonna make a few call phone calls and, you know, draw in the scenery, soak it in a little bit more. It was just gorgeous. And,   the interesting thing was that I it said this bench   is Ollie's bench,   and,   I knew I knew this young man. We knew him, when we were members of, he passed away at the age of 21.   And I just went I just remembered that he was a fantastic kid. He was great. Really, really he was very bright. He passed his exams to go to Oxford or Cambridge, and he had some sort of muscular disease or something, but he was had a very dry sense of humor,   very bright and he kinda knew his number was up. So he passed when he was a mere 21 years of age and this bench was for him. So I thought, oh, that's nice. So I said a little word to him and everything because we used to have a lot of fun. Him and my sons had a lot of fun down at the tennis courts,   pulling each other's legs. Well, not his so much because it didn't work that well, but he was great. He was really, really he was just fantastic. So I'm sat on this bench anyway and this comes around to dogs which is always really interesting.  

A woman comes up and and,   she's got three Labradors with her and, they're all purebreds or whatever or thoroughbreds or whatever the name is, pedigrees, are they? So they're really high quality Labradors and,   they seemed very pleasant. They really did. So we get talking about this and that and the other and the fact that she trained them as gun dogs and then she told me that her,   her nickname was something like,   Chukka or something like that. I can't remember. I have to see it. She was sort of a seasoned individual and, she was great. She was furious about the state of the country. I didn't even have to bring it up. She was just instantaneously   angry with me about it, and I like that a lot.  

So we we had a wonderful chat. There's no real point to this story other than at the end, Eric and Paul, it closes   with that, with this one dog sort of,   right near me, only about three years old. And the other ones, which were a little bit more mature, they ran off and they came back. And and then in front of me, they started to eat some horse shit.   Well And I thought I thought, now I know why I don't want a dog. I just thought, that's not on, but they loved it. They loved it. There was two reasons bread, are they? It was two reasons I wanna have a dog.  

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One   is, when they curl one out, you gotta pick it up with a pair of plastic bag, and I don't think it's Is that in the blue routine or is this in the family show? But This is the family show. Okay. Got you. Because   here in Great Britain, they got strict laws about dogs,   curling one out. So when they curl one out, you gotta pick it up with a with a plastic bag.   And I saw a woman once put it the plastic bag in her pocket.  

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Oh, you sounded like a school kid when you said that.   They're actually they're brilliant at it down here. It really is a menace, is that stuff. It's terrible. And so there's loads of them, and they're all it's clean as a whistle up, Danny, and I'm thankful for it. Everybody does they're very responsible. It's great. It's really good.  

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I had one at a situation yesterday,   because I like to cycle down to town. I go along the side of a river. It's like an embankment. It's quite nice. It's all ducks. It's trees   and whatever.   And before I get there, I go through, like, a wooded area where,   the path,   there's an embankment both sides, you see.   Yeah. And there's a a very posh lady standing there with one of these dogs that look like you know, those lap dogs that looks like a rat.   Yeah. Yes. I mean mean? Yes. Yes. It's it's there. And that was curling.   Not one out, but it was curling several out, and they were rolling down the embankment across the path. And I just about missed it. It got bike tires. So   because it's a racing bike I've got, and it hasn't got any mudguards. And I thought, if I went through that, that would have come flying up into my fucking Yes.  

Yes. But luckily, I just about missed it. And and the other thing I don't Oh, good. I'm a bit bothered about dogs   is,   they lick,   unmentionable areas.  

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Okay? And still Anyway, I'm switching to the Eric. We've got some And and then they come and lick your face. Wait. How'd your face see that? A dog just licking its bum and then comes and licks your face. I know. I can't I can't believe it. It's just it's just not on really. It's just all too silly, isn't it? It is. It's all too silly. But like I said, the main problem is you're bound to sort of, you know, cherish the things. So that   you cannot help it. And then, of course, they live to thirteen or fourteen or   five weeks if they get hit by a car or something like that. My brother had one. It sort of broke its leg. It cost him 3 and a half grand to fix it. I went, no. Can't do that. I'd have to die. You have to put it down.  

I couldn't do that. So I'd be unfit as a dog owner. I wouldn't pass the test if there is one. There probably is somewhere, but I assume it won't pass it. Anyway Pets are less maintenance so, aren't they? Because cat owners Yeah. But they're pointless. What is the point of them? We had one, and then we just threw it away.   I mean, not literally. I would have done. That's right. But I I couldn't see any point in it. Yeah. We we had no there was just no point in it. I just didn't know what the point of it was. All it does is it's disinterested in you. Okay. Fine. It brings mice in.   Boring. Irritating. You have to tidy that up as well, you know, to show off. I thought we didn't have any mice until this cat started to bring them in the house, goes out, you know, into local little fields and alleys and things like this, finds a mouse. Look what I found. Yeah. Great. So I didn't see the point of it. So we called a woman up and,   she came out and picked it up. It hissed and spat her like mad. This is about five or six years ago, I think. Something. There was a reason to get rid of it really. And,   I was only talking to a neighbor the other day who'd also, one day, woke up and decided no more cats. They'd made a right mess in a bedroom. A really awful sort of you can imagine. Right? So it was not good and she went, enough. So she called up one of these,   it's quite a good tale this actually, she calls up this   this cat's   retrieval service or whatever they're called. You know, we'll pick up your cat and turn it into a pair of slippers or whatever they do, which I always thought would be quite useful. You can have the head on on the left one, the tail coming out the back of the right foot. It'd be quite interesting, wouldn't it? Cat slippers. I'm sure cat owners right now are trying to find out where I live and shoot me and all that kind of stuff but hey ho. And,   so she decided she had to get rid of it. She calls one of these agencies up   and,   they said, oh, right. Okay.  

She said, are you are you having difficulties at home? So she said,   she didn't know what to say. She didn't expect to get the Spanish inquisition, that kind of thing. So she said, yes. She said, are you separating from your husband?   She said, yes.   She wasn't.   She said yes.   And, she's oh gosh. And once she started this lie, she couldn't stop it. Right? Because   she oh, it's very difficult. She said, yes. It's very difficult. So no one's we yeah. We we can't decide who wants to keep the cats and and it's just terrible. So you've got to come and pick them up. Then she her husband had to go and see them, so she had to brief him about the fact that they were splitting up. I thought I thought this is really rather fun, actually,   winding yourself into a ridiculous situation because she sort of misread the situation. But, yeah. There we go. Isn't that fun? Isn't that fun about cats? Paul, let's bring Paul in because he sat there listening to us talking about weather,   dogs,   at both ends, and cats.  

Paul,   how are you this fine afternoon, I guess, in your neck of the woods? How are things going? Oh, well, I'm good now that I've turned my my monitors  

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down, and I'm I've resorted to headphones,   because my cat has heard your entire conversation,   except for the last few minutes. She's she's starting to settle down. She's starting to settle down. Right. Just   just a little. I'm I'm I just wanna tell you, you know, but Yeah.  

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Yeah. So   It's Wish I never brought it up now. I'm very embarrassed.   I'm very embarrassed. Well, that's okay. I didn't I meant no personal slight at all on cat owners.   Yeah. It was my wife that wanted the cat, so it came in for that reason. And I just never saw the point of it. I just didn't get it. What's that for? I didn't know what it was for.  

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So, you know, it's just me. In defense in defense of cats,   cats can see things   that you and I cannot see,   particularly,  

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like, what Corruption in in the banking industry. Can you see that? They can see malevolent  

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spirits.   They basically   exist somewhere between three and four d.   And the reason they're nocturnal   and they sleep during the day and they're up at night is because   they are up standing watch   over their people   while they're sleeping.   When you wake up, then it's your turn   to manage the house, and the cat goes off in a nice comfy spot and snoozes.   Cats are actually awesome.   I just don't think you had the right one.  

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Well, I would really like to buy into your story,   so I will. No. Actually, I was gonna tease you a little bit, but it's wrong. It's not right. Apart from it, I've just made your cat emotionally distressed, and I apologize profoundly to you in any distress that communication may have made.   But you're you're correct about that thing with regards to them seeing in the dark. We may have mentioned here before, and if not, we're mentioning it now. In Egyptian mythology,   of course, cats are honored and revered.   There are lots of images of cats.  

There's cats' eyes, and the reason is is that they can see into the   into the netherworld or your nether regions, that kind of thing. The idea is that you it's it follows on from what you were saying that they have they're in a different realm and they can see in the dark, of course, which they can. And this is, of course, both literally they can do that down here, but it's also a metaphor   for being able to see in the darkness of ignorance and therefore pull the light out and all that kind of stuff.   And and, I don't know why cats are so I find them quite tedious, but I do. I'm afraid. I just I'm not a cat guy. I know, what's his name? Raymond Chandler, the guy that wrote all the Philip Marlowe things, you know, The Big Sleep, The Long Goodbye. You're familiar with those guys? Sam not Sam Spade. Sam Spade's Dashiell Hammett. Philip Marlowe.  

You know about those? Anybody? No? Is it only me? Sam Spade?   That's all. Humphrey Bogart played Philip Marlowe in The Big Sleep with   Lauren   Bacall.   It's a great story. Yeah. There were base the two preeminent writers of of of high class, what would have possibly been called pulp fiction,   was Dashiell Hammett. What a first name. Where does that come from? I absolutely love it. Or Dashiell, depending on how you pronounce it. Answers on the postcard, please. But, yeah, Dashiell Hammett and, Philip Marler.   No. Raymond Chandler. They were the authors. Raymond Chandler. Chandler smoked a pipe and and had a Remington typewriter or whatever they had at the day, but he was completely covered in cats, I understand. Not literally, but his house was just full of them. He didn't have one. He had, like, herds of them. Is that the right Mhmm. Fleets of cats? I don't know what it is. Yes. But he had herds of cats, yeah, swanning around on the carpet and everything while he clunked away writing these stories. I was completely in love with those stories when I was a teenager, about 15 or 16. I thought it was such a sort of exotic space   and it always seemed rather brilliant. And then when you see Humphrey Bogart in the movies, of course, you think, oh, yes. I do like Humphrey because he's not actually a very big man, but I like that lisp and that drawl and always the smoking of the cigarettes. It all seemed rather manly to me at the time. So,   yeah, there we go. That's that's another cat connection. We could talk about cats all night, but I'd rather not. But if anybody's got any more cat anecdotes, throw it in now whilst whilst the iron's hot, as they say. The one thing the one thing  

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that,   cats are good for   is they may be up all night, but they're quiet.   They're quiet. They really don't bother anybody.   And now Mhmm.   You know, I mean, there are some things that you could hear, like, one of the most joyful   sounds in the world is like a baby's laughter.   Unless it's 3AM   and you don't have a baby.  

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Holy crap.  

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Yes. Well, we don't have a baby right now, which is good. It would be a bit worrying if I went to the house and found one. But yes. Yeah. Or if you heard one. I like Should we talk about something that's got a bit of meat on the bone? I mean, I know cats have got meat on the bone. But Can I come back to this opening quote?  

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Yes. Please. Please. Well, I was gonna say, I like catch when they're number 39 on the, menu at the local Chinese takeaway. You know? They're they're very nice. Well, I'm sure was number 37, Harry.   No. No. But I can't I couldn't eat a whole one. You know?   I'm joking, folks.  

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The cats the cats in the kettle at the Peking Moon.   You know, the place I eat every day at noon.  

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What was that?   Oh, boy.   Yeah. Tales of oh, I'm sure they're very nice and don't cut any sort of rodent or rat or cat or dog that's flying around or am I? I'm not sure about anything with that stuff. I when we were young,   like, what what do I mean by that? When I'm sort of like 10 or 11, that kind of age, we used to drive back,   on a Sunday night having visited relations often. We used to go,   there was nowhere open. This is England, Early Nineteen Seventies. Sunday, practically everything's closed. You couldn't get fish and chips on a Sunday. It was almost impossible unless you were at the seaside where they made a lot of money on Sundays.   But,   and we were at the seaside. We would come back past a Chinese restaurant   and I always wanted to eat from there, but my father absolutely forbid it.  

He said, no. I said, right. He said, they cook everything in the same pan. I thought, that's probably makes it quite tasty and interesting, doesn't it? This was this wasn't a good argument. So we never I never got a Chinese until I was about   17 years of age. Oh, it was so exotic and exciting. Chicken chow mein.  

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Right. Anyway shall   we shall say woman that cooks potatoes and peas in the same pot, very unhygienic.   Sorry.  

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All good. Right.  

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Good gravy.   Anyway,   I'm going to read this quote out again. It's just a general theme, but I've been thinking about this anyway. I've I've we've probably sort of touched upon it over the last few weeks as well.   This idea about what to do ness,   really about what to do. I keep coming across more and more clips on this   sort of theme. Maybe that's just me because I'm looking for them, although the only ones I remember because I see a lot of stuff.   And, Edmund Burke said some brilliant things. This is not his most famous quote but I'm gonna say it again, when bad men combine, which I think we can all jolly well agree most many of them have,   the good must associate else they will fall one by one an unpitted sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.  

Now the thing about   associating, getting together is, and this is just a general question,   what kind of associations   do you think we could put together that might help everyone?   Do you have any   thoughts on that, gentlemen?   What kind of associations do you think we could put together? It's not a trick question. I think about it a lot in terms of and I've mentioned here the idea of sort of localism to combat globalism.   And also this thing I just whilst I'm still looking at this quote, this thing about bad men.   This idea of good and evil, of course, is,   an old one and it's true to some degree. Whether certain individuals are permanently   evil or not, I don't know. What I tend to think is that if you look at any sort of strata of society, anything   from working classes through the middle class, the upper class, the lords and ladies, the people that own the Bank of England, whatever,   You're gonna get a mix. You're gonna get sort of evil elements within it. You're also gonna have good counter forces within those things. It's just that we tend to be living in an age right now   where the predominant   feeling that we're all getting   is that the sort of the dark side, the bit that the cats can see into,   the dark side is is generally   throwing its weight about a bit too much and wrecking everything with tremendous speed. And and it's looking at ways how actions because I often think I just what is it? Everybody agrees that something's wrong. I just saw a clip today, which I can't play, unfortunately, because there's about 35 f bombs in it over two minutes. And I thought it's gonna take me an hour to take them all out and, of course, it then reduces the impact.  

And,   because the guy felt that way, and I completely empathize with his feelings. But the gist of what he was saying was,   everybody's concerned about   and I'm assuming it's similar over there in The States, Paul. Over here, we've got a situation where   the price of all things is just going up in a sort of   demented way. It's got no relation to actual real economics   at all. Right. I'm convinced of this. It's nothing to do with money supply or anything. It's an actual control event that's taking place. It's totally controlled   because there seems to be no repercussions. There's not even any explanations about it on on what passes for news these days. Whereas, even in the past, they would try and explain to you because they were anticipating, you know, outrage from the proles. That's you and me, everyone. We're proletariat.  

You know, they wanted to combat that but there's there's not even an acknowledgment of it at all.   So   any ideas about the sorts of associations you think we could put together? What the goal of them would be? Private membership. I'm just interested to know.  

[00:33:19] Unknown:

What what we suggest Private membership associations.   Is that what you're saying, Paul? What what what we thought of the other week, and that is the political well, what you thought of, Paul,   that is the political party that could never be elected.   Now that would actually fire people up   to ask their local politicians. So, oy, what about usury? Oy, what about this? What about that? Mhmm. And I think that would probably do lot of good   because they would know that you're not canvassing canvassing for votes or anything like that because you can't Yeah. Because you could never be elected.   And use a little bit of humor with it, so it's passed and, you know, look, look at this, Bert. It's a laugh. This is yeah. That's interesting.  

That, I think, is what is probably needed.  

[00:34:02] Unknown:

Yes. I think it's definitely it could be a strong element of it, Eric. I mean, that was the thought that I had when I just I haven't done one for a little while, but just to let everybody know, I've got I'm about to have an awful lot more time to work creatively on what we do here,   and I'm really looking forward to it. I've still got a few,   sort of little hurdles and things to, tidy up in my immediate home space, both physical and administrative,   which are quite important.   And so they're taking most of my attention. But once they're settled, which shouldn't be too long,   I should have more time to deal with that. And I think that's a good point. I mean, I'm as you said it, Eric, as well, I thought,   yeah, you know, one of the things,   we would probably all agree with, we've probably all said it during the show at some point or another, is that voting literally makes no difference because irrespective of which party you vote for, the government, I I would say the money power, the hidden government is now as is known,   you know, always gets in.  

So what's the point of voting? We would you could then say, this is the reason why we formed a political party that you can't vote for. Because even if you voted for it, it wouldn't make any difference because we wouldn't be in charge. We would have just spent the entire electoral process   lying to you about what we were going to do only for us all to discover, supposedly, when we got in power, that we couldn't do any of it because some guy or representative of the chaps and chapesses in charge would rock up at 10 Downing Street and say, you can't do that. You can't do that. We won't let you do that. You're not doing that. I mean, you can't do that either.  

[00:35:29] Unknown:

That would be valuable in,   just   demonstrating to the people   how anything beneficial to them will never ever happen in politics because it's just not a winnable thing. You know? And   any party that would be going for that would never be allowed   to be on the ballot.   And if they were on the ballot, they'd never be allowed to win, certainly.   But as a component as a companion piece to that,   I go back to the private membership   associations.   Okay. Well,   you know that there's no way to get,   justice,   freedom, or peace of mind out of the existing government no matter what you do or who you vote for or who you support.   So why not just   start conducting   your life in the private   and telling them to bugger off?  

Meaning the powers that be.   Just tell them go away. Go over there and play with yourself. Do do whatever it is you do when   when when   what you do doesn't matter, when nobody cares what you think, say, or do. We're gonna be over here living our lives.   So   as I said before, bugger off.  

[00:36:47] Unknown:

You say it quite well as well, Paul. I quite like that. Yes. Thank you. Bugger off.   Oh, bugger   off.   Absolutely.   What we do, we need maybe it's the bugger off party, Eric. Maybe that's what we need. We can all just bugger off.   What's the point of view?  

[00:37:07] Unknown:

You know? If it it's the fuck them all party, isn't it, really? Because people What? You know, they they it's a very it's it's it's it it's  

[00:37:18] Unknown:

I can't Jeff, we we no. We're gonna have to stitch this together. I've got so much on my sort of to do list that I've just had no time to get around to. But I want to do these things because I think at least they'd be good as test vehicles to see whether they've got any sort of communications   traction with people, to try and find a way of I mean, there's so many people who are aware and and I bet you've seen them as well. This one I I I'll send you the clip of this guy but it's f bomb central. I mean, I just couldn't play it. It's just sort of exhausting after a while. And I was thinking, you know, I don't know who he is. He's just some English bloke going around in a park speaking the way everybody's thinking. It's just that. Everybody's thinking this stuff. And he's going, something's got to be done about it. That's the thing. So it's this   plan of behavioral change that we have to make. And, of course, getting people to change their behavior   is   not the easiest job in the world.  

And, you know, present members included here. It's it's not easy if you look at your own track record of trying you get into a habit. It's a bit like why everybody goes to YouTube. I often think, why? Why do you always go there? But they just do. There's no point me even arguing about it. People get habituated, don't they, too? Well, they're habits.   That was a silly thing to say, but,   but they do. And it becomes very difficult, you know, to sort of switch it out and and so there's a different path.  

[00:38:30] Unknown:

Why I'd look on it if I mean, you can have a leaflet printed, which is a four size,   folded,   they can have it zed folded or folded into itself where you've got six pages. And you can get a lot of information as long as it doesn't look clustered   on six pages of an eight four sheet of paper. And you can carry a one of them in your pocket. They go into your pocket nicely. So when you meet someone, you just hand them a leaflet.   And they know that you're not canvassing for votes or anything like that because you can't be elected. And you're not putting yourself up for election because we would never get elected.  

[00:39:01] Unknown:

Don't vote for us because you can't. It's a wasted vote. Yeah. But if you vote for the other parties, that's a wasted don't waste your vote on the other parties. Waste it on us. Oh, you can't. No. We can't. Or tell the other parties  

[00:39:11] Unknown:

about this   so that,   and ask them, difficult questions. I mean, I was just waiting   for one of these,   smug politicians, which you never see, come around the door, and I was gonna just ask a very simple question. What is your party prepared to do about the abolition of usury?  

[00:39:31] Unknown:

Mhmm. Or do you believe in democracy? And I was, hey. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. Okay  

[00:39:36] Unknown:

then. When did we vote for usury?   When did we?   You know? To have our Yeah.  

[00:39:43] Unknown:

I think I I be robbed. I I completely agree with everything he's saying. The last couple of days, I've just been thinking that   there's a whole sort of area of knowledge about this space that I probably need to go and acquire   because   I suspect   that the   the complications of the world's financial system are probably beyond any one individual in terms of understanding exactly what's going on. It's labyrinthine. We're talking about a seasoned sort of disease here in the West. You know, it's three hundred years with regards   to the Bank of England in 1694.  

It's three hundred and thirty years or whatever,   which is a long time for them to develop and refine all their control mechanisms and systems. I mean, I was listening to I just ordered a book today called the Tower of Basel, I B A S E L or Baal as it's often pronounced in Switzerland. Yeah?   Because I don't know if you've caught it. Tucker Carlson's just done an interview with Catherine Austin Fitts. It's all over the place and I was listening it today on my rambling through the countryside as it were. I didn't get through all of it. I got through about an hour and twenty minutes. I've got about twenty minutes left at some point. It's really good. It's very, very good,   because Carlson is not fully aware of all these themes that she starts to address, but she addresses some really good ones which really   are very good for thinking at the next level of thought. For example, she says   the gist of it is if you were the risk assessor for the Earth,   what would you do?  

And it it taps into every field that we are rightly   cross about.   For example, the control of energy prices is farcical when you view it from the point of view that there are, I would suggest, advanced technologies that have already cracked the production of energy very easily.   I'm absolutely convinced of that.   The space, of course, is completely disturbed permanently by agents from the established industries,   but from the established control system, you know, the banking system.   And it's very difficult, I think. I'm finding it difficult. I want to try and see it from their point of view.   Is it possible?  

I mean, to just dismiss them all as being completely purely bad and evil,   it that may be true, but it's not very helpful. I can't sort of think   more in a more detailed   way about why they would do these things. There may be. I suspect if you if we were ever able to get one on here, like a representative from the,   Bank of International Settlements in Baal,   they would possibly give us lots of extremely thought provoking   reasons as to why they do what they do, which many would appear to us to be good. I'm serious. I think that that is the case.   They're they   but it the knock on effect is horrific,   of what because their orientations are muddled. This is my view as with, you know, my present levels of knowledge.  

They're focused on all the wrong things, and it's this force   that that forms in Burke's,   you know, quote here, the bad men. They've combined.   So, you know, how are the good to associate to deal with that? One of the things that she mentions in the interview,   is that the the Bank of International Settlements in Baal   is basically a sovereign country.   It's actually   it cannot be dealt with in law at all anywhere in the world.   It's completely outside   of lawful prosecution   for anything.   This is an amazing thing.   You can't do anything with it. It's a totally sovereign state of probably the highest power on Earth or certainly one of them because it's the central bank of all central banks.  

And it came about because   after World War one,   when there were reparations   and the asset stripping of Germany, all on spurious reasons and the suppression of Germany with the Weimar Republic and all this kind of stuff,   the   Bank of England, and that shouldn't be confused with the English, please,   just like the Federal Reserve should not be confused   with Americans in the main.   This is, you know, it's easy for them to do that. But the Bank of England, along with other central banks, wanted a situation where they would be basically unimpeachable at any level so that they could micro control all sorts of things. It was you know, the cover story at the time was, well, we need to sort out all these reparations and things, and we need to control Germany to make sure another war doesn't come. It's always that one that's trotted out. But it developed into the Bank of International Settlements,   as many people will not so it's the Central Bank of the Central Bankers.  

It's controlling everything, and they can. Well, this is an amazing thing that she said, but I I I shouldn't have been surprised because I've seen other things and mentioned other things that are of a similar sort of,   you know,   nasty and evil sort of structure. They can effectively take money   out of,   say, the The US economy and literally hide it on their balance books and no one would even know that they've got it, as in trillions   of dollars. They can just move this stuff around. And as I was listening to her talking about this, she mentions this book called The Tower of Basil, which I ordered immediately today. I ordered it while I was on my walk, so it's gonna be here in a couple of days. I'm looking forward to jumping in. She said everybody should if you're interested in this, and I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but it's definitely mine,   you should get a copy and jump in. And when I plowed into it, we'll do a show on the on this book in a few weeks' time when I've got through it because it it should make for a really good theme. It's by a Hungarian   journalist. I can't remember his name, but apparently, it's it's very highly rated.  

Their ability to control all of these things I just thought we're up again we can't go up against that. It's not even a sensible thought to think that you could.   When you look at the extensions of power that they've got   because of the because of the reliance that they have built in of all the nation states as they disintegrate them on these central banks   to keep the governments operating under their terms, of course, so that the people, the proles, as, you know, their throat would be, well, if we if we do this, we can make the proles rise up against you. There's gotta be all these mechanisms that are built in, I think. And,   they've also got other anxieties about the world population figures, which they say, whether that's true or not. I mean, it's very difficult for us to really know.  

But this is such a there must be tens of thousands of individuals   that are on the other side that are getting paid very well.   You know, I've thought, well, would it ever be possible   to convince those people or to even get them to look at the idea that what they're doing   is harmful to so many people that whatever they think the end result will be, it's simply not worth pursuing. We would prefer you know, I want to write a polite letter to them at the bank. Will you please stop all this? But, of course,   it's a completely facile thing for me to do. It's ridiculous. Oh, There's  

[00:46:31] Unknown:

there's something that's happened in I call it Rhodesia, but it's now known as Zimbabwe. Have you heard about a chap called Maxwell   Chikambutso?   I have. Have created a self powered electric vehicle that runs on radio waves   requiring no fuel   or charging.   And Mhmm. There's a item here. It says, how is Zimbabwe   producing   30,000   self powering cars?   So they're going into production.  

[00:47:04] Unknown:

Now that's So we are told, Eric. I I've seen the videos.   So we are told. We have to drop that in at the end of everything. So we are told that they're gonna go into production. Allegedly. I mean Allegedly. Allegedly.  

[00:47:15] Unknown:

I I believe. Allegedly.  

[00:47:17] Unknown:

Yes. I I   think that,   a a friend of mine commented that   that appears to look a whole lot like the same guy that was,   trying to start the South African   space program.   And he was literally building rockets or ships in his backyard.   And, Yep.   I wouldn't wanna take one of those down the road at 30 miles an hour, let alone take it into outer space.  

[00:47:46] Unknown:

Yeah.   I've seen those that you you just you can never tell   where the solution may come from. It's as if   it has to come from maybe it has to come from a strange space but I think that they would be just so vulnerable to for   you know, the the force that's out there doesn't really need to reveal his hand because it controls in an indirect way. I mean,   even let's assume that this the video I saw Eric of one of his things was of a TV which sounds pretty tame,   But he had this   device on the back of the TV and it the same would therefore go for a computer,   which meant you didn't need to plug it into the mains and you never needed a battery for it. It just it was a self powering television,   which is a scary thought considering the amount of tribe that's on   there. But the idea   why is it he was basically tapping into the ether,   I think. You know, that's how I would express it today. I'm sure there's a more technical the same thing that Tesla was looking at, that the energy is all around and there's a way to do it. But it's how   there have been many things like this. There are probably many things right now. In fact, there's,   another   company I've got to go and look at that say that they've sold it. There's many. I'm reasonably sure they have.  

I'm reasonably sure they have sold it and I suspect this technology is already being used at the behest of, you know, the secret departments of the US government and elsewhere   to power their installations and do all sorts of things.   One of the concerns that Catherine Austin Fitz talks about this sort of technology, because she mentions it in this interview with,   with Tucker Carlson,   is one of the reasons they give   because she knows people in this space. She was invited to go into it and refused. And I think she's I I I do like the cut of her jib. In many ways, it's very detailed, and you can see why she had high positions really in governments and stuff because she's got a very thorough mind   with all of this stuff. But what they said to her   and, you know, allegedly,   and this may be allegedly true,   is that the technology was such that with a bit of tweaking, it could become very dangerous and would empower terrorist groups. This is always trotted out. Right? But it's true. I mean and Carlson makes the sensible observation that when you look at anything that's got energy involved in it, like oil or petrol or diesel fuel or electricity,   all of them,   because it's power   can, when applied in a different way, be very dangerous to other people. There's no two ways about it.  

Whether this actually stands up as,   you know, being a good reason to inhibit the arrival of these technologies or not is difficult from our position to ever really know. But,   she she used that phrase, suppose you were the I think it was the risk assessor for the Earth. Would you allow it? And it's a very good question.   Would you allow it? You know, if you had a lot more information in front of you on your desk, you're okay. I can see that this would do this, this, and this. But what's gonna happen is this group of investors over here who've already got a lot of money are gonna get very cross, then they'll build a private army.   The knock on effects are absolutely massive.  

It's as if we're entrenched in such a stupid system   that it's almost as if it does need a complete   like, an intervention from out of this realm to shift it, to shift the internal consciousness that's sitting in so many heads   that's that that causes them to behave in such a way that they we're we're only not getting harmed by it, you know. Well, if I may.   Yeah. You  

[00:51:03] Unknown:

may. The risk assessment team has been asleep at the switch,   since the beginning of time   because Mhmm. The,   nuclear reactors were originally invented or conceived as thorium   reactors.   Thorium is plentiful.   It's cheap. It's powerful. Mhmm. And   it, is easily discardable   because once you finish using it as a fuel,   it reached it it only takes, like, fifty years   to get to its half life. And the reason   that   they switched from thorium to uranium   was, number one,   because   everything that the bad people do is bad in every way they could possibly be,   and it's profitable   in every way that it could possibly be. So they started using uranium   in the reactors   because the spent uranium   could be used for nuclear weaponry.  

It had a life after it was done with its first life.   Mhmm. And   that's why they chose to pick an energy that was   unhealthy   for the planet   and crammed it down our throat.   So   the   the,   the guys that were supposed to ask, should we do this?   They were asleep at the switch.  

[00:52:36] Unknown:

Not my fault. I you know, I know. I mean, well,   one of the things she mentioned   as well   it's a really good interview.   Whoever sent it into the, Telegram group, thank you very much. Although, I'd got it from multiple sources on the same day, but that's where I sort of picked it up.   She talks about the arrival of the Fed in 1913,   and initially, the Fed's in charge of monetary policy.   So there's monetary policy and fiscal policy,   and she sort of charges through this. And Carlson, thankfully, asked what what is the difference.   And the difference is this. So monetary policy   is the the operations of the Fed   in terms of or the Bank of England. In terms of   determining   the total amount of the money supply in terms of cash, the amount of credit that's gonna be available, the interest rates, the control of the monetary unit as it were, that's monetary policy   and   that's enough power as it is.  

But fiscal policy is, on the other side, is to do with all the policies with regards to government taxation. It's how it goes through the loop and gets drawn out of your pocket. So they give it to you, you know, they issue the money out of thin air.   They they level interest on it all as a control mechanism to keep you within a, you know, a sort of confined space in terms of your capacity to do things.   And then they drain it, you know, so they pump it in from one end, they drain it out the other. So initially, the central banks,   are known for and predominantly their track record is have been in charge of monetary policy, which is a colossal power as we know.  

But what they're looking to do   and what they will be able to do with the AI situation   is effectively control fiscal policy.   So the whole system   will be completely stitched up. I mean, I suspect it's possibly completely stitched up right now   because, you know, like this thing I don't know if I mentioned it last week. You got the I think we were talking about property, weren't we, on land, which is always worth talking about, you know.   The this these moves by BlackRock,   talking with the British government to buy up farmland because it's a great undervalued   opportunity.  

Who invited them in?   What what on earth?   Who who gives anybody permission to come up who's not English to buy English land? I know I'm talking like a an idiot because we know it's happened.   But it it's these aspects here. Well, no nation can maintain itself as a nation if the people of that nation   have got no land to stand on. So we're all running around saying it's England, but is it? You know, I think half the railway system's owned by the French or something, and this, that, and then you go, what does that mean?   Well, what it means is that we can't make decisions about how we wanna live, and so it's an attack on culture. She also cited I've got to dig this up now now that I remember it. Do you remember Eric over here?  

His name is it Oliver Goldsmith?   Do you remember him? Goldsmith. Yes. I remember him. Yes. Yes. He became an MP. He was a a eurosceptic.   Right? That's it.   Very,   powerful financier,   of the tribe,   but he said many sensible things. I've read some of his stuff, and I just couldn't help but agree with it. It's just absolutely spot on. And he he said something she was quoting from an article he'd written in 1994.   It would've it would've gone right past me in 1994. I wasn't even in the space by then fully. I didn't even I wasn't looking in this direction, you know. But he was saying that the plans were what they would affect   is that it would be complete control   based on the destruction of culture.  

The destruction of culture. So everything that you love about your culture will go   if these steps are continued to be taken. They will go.   And this is   this is all around us.   All around us, you know. I had some calls today on Mike Graham's radio show, which is pretty good, you know. I don't know if you catch it, Eric. It's 6AM to 10AM on Talk Radio every day. They've let him off the leash a bit, and there's some good the the best bit is the people that call in.   Ria Bowe was mentioning this to me a couple of months ago. And I was speaking to my brother only the other day and   not prompting for me. He said, oh, I tune in every morning because he's, you know, driving, going to work, or whatever. There's some really good stuff because you hear it from,   you know, the proverbial greengrocer from Bolton, if there are any left over there. Normal people calling in with their gripes   and the   there was one in from a woman this morning. She said, everything about my country is being lost. How do we stop it? I hate everything. This is everybody's I hate it all and you're right to hate it. This is a good sign. This is a it's really, really good that people are beginning to hate   and they really need to hate. And whilst I'm saying the word hate, here's another quote from Edmund Burke,   which I've said before but is all you can't repeat this one often enough. I love Burke. He's got a handful of fantastic quotes.  

They never will love where they ought to love,   who do not hate   where they ought to hate.   There's nothing wrong with hate,   and there's a lot of hatred being stoked up. It's building up quite naturally   because hate is a strong aversion to   or dislike of,   whatever you like after that. A strong aversion to or dislike of something, someone, a situation, a policy, anything. You have a stronger version and dislike of it for good reasons, generally, I think.   Because you've got an internal value system   that is worth defending. Because from that value system, your culture has been built up, and this is how we like to live. We like to live like this in England. We like to have Eric come on and tell blue jokes or jokes near the knuckle, don't we? We like to talk we just that's what we like to do.   And people in a different part of the world like to do something else. And what they like to do may or may not be of interest to me, but what my own people do, my own backyard is always of interest to me even if I agree or disagree with it simply because these are my my neighbors. So I think there's a you know, I've got to get that speech as well. I think it was in   Newsweek or one of those, you know, those major magazines that exist in the late nineties before the Internet arrived and started to burgeon into a sort of news alternative, which of course it it has done completely now. But,   yeah. Interesting stuff, I think. Really, really interesting stuff. And,   Paul, you're gonna have to help us structure private members associations then. Sorry, Eric, please.  



[00:58:55] Unknown:

Well, well, sorry. I don't mean to talk over Paul, but what I was going to say   is that when you look at well, I I remember when I was a kid, I I'm sounding a bit like my granddad now, but it was the same probably with you, Paul.   If your dad drove a car down the road, he could park with ease. You didn't have to pay for parking. You just parked to the car park and walked off.   Everything   now, you've got to keep looking at your watch because you've only got half an hour or twenty minutes free parking.   People are living on their nerves because of this. You see people really stressed out because of it. And   my neighbor,   she's kept   I mean, up near where I live, there's,   a suit you know, these supermarkets, I won't mention the name,   that,   they've opened small ones,   local ones.  

Yeah. And,   they've got,   a camera there as a private company that's nabbing people.   And it's very ambiguous because there's a, this on private property, but there's a yellow line that's been   rubbed out with where. And my neighbor just parked up, went and got her shopping, came out. She's old age pensioner. I drove off. Next thing, she gets a fine. Well, it's not a fine, and I said to her, just ignore it because you haven't entered into a contract with them. But she don't know if she paid it. It's about £60 or something. But these people are making money hand over fist. That should be illegal.   If you want to park somewhere, if you cut if if they don't want you to park, they will put bollards there. Stop your parking.  

But don't catch people out to, you know,   people are very busy. They've got a stressful life,   and I think that,   it should be,   what they've got like in Wales and Scotland where hospitals have free parking.   Yeah. Supermarkets   have free parking.   Well, most supermarkets have, but these small ones don't.   But I remember when my dad used to just drive down the high street and park up. Didn't didn't even think about paying a park. You just parked.   Easy peasy.   They say, oh, there's more traffic on the road. Yes. But this reason why is because   we've got   a population that is decreasing   at a rapid   amount. So instead of looking into the problem of why   there's less   people being born,   instead, the country the the the politicians have got people over from overseas.  

And, of course, it's not replacement.   Great replacement.  

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And I've got nothing against these people because putting yourself in their position, if someone offered you a life of milk and honey, you'd grab it, wouldn't you? And that's it. You can't blame them coming over. You would. Although, what they're being promised, as we've mentioned before, is a complete pack of lies. It's not gonna work out for them either.   But we can you you know, without access to that,   or more fuller access to communications platforms, but they're building it. I'm not entirely negative about this. Anyway, we're at the end we're at the top of the hour.   So I think it's time for a song, a little tune. Some people say, of course, that on this show, we talk cobblers,   which is an English phrase   for talking   nonsense,   you know. I don't do you know where that comes from, Eric? Why is it to talk a load of old cobblers? I don't I don't know. I've got nothing against cobblers. It's like, cobs wallop. Where does cods wallop come from? Nobody knows.  



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I say, oh, so that's about cods wallop.  

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Shout out everyone in the chat. If any if any, you know, hardworking chap or chappest listening on Rumble can go and find out. Also, shout out to everybody on YouTube. There's a little crew building up on YouTube. Thanks very much for that. I'll go through some comments in a in a moment after the break. Yeah. I don't know where it comes from. If you can find out where the route, the etymological route of why things are a load of old cobblers, we'd all be keen to know. This is a song, which shouldn't cause the podcast to get punted out of these podcast platforms. They go, you've paid this you've played this song and you are this person they don't tell me what I owe them, but they say it's copyright and you can't play it. I find that irritating, frankly.   I really do, you know, but whatever. This is called   Shoe Cobbler.  

You've all have heard of it. I know. I I might have played it once about a year and a half back or something   by the New Mules, and I absolutely love this. It's only a couple of minutes long, and it's probably   well, it's a different sound in the ear.   Shoe cobbler   by The New Mules.  

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The very next time   that I got drunk,   I fell into   the   Well, now I've lost my shoe thread and don't know where to find it. Alright, there, please. Right around there behind me, ding ball of wax. There behind me, ding ding   ding ding ding.   Oh,  

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The views, opinions, and content of the show host and their guests appearing on the World Broadcasting Network are their own and do not   Thank you indeed. You're also listening to it on other platforms,   quite a few on Rumble, a little growing audience on YouTube for as long as we can keep that chucking around, and we've got another few things lined up, hopefully, all part of our effort to create our private members association and non political party and to redress the imbalances in the world, he said, grandiosely not knowing quite how that was all gonna pan out. Gentlemen, welcome back to part two.   What did you think of the song? Did you think it was a load of old cobblers or did you like it? I'm interested to know.  



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Mark Anchorley is,   the song was alright. Yeah. It's quite jolly. But Mark Anchorley seventy two has come up what it means. He says, what a load of old what a load of cobblers or just cobblers   is British slang for what nonsense for what nonsense   it's derived from cockney rhyming slang   for,   let's be polite, testicles,   which rhymes with cobblers ols.   Brilliant. It does. So that's I remember that. Ols. Yeah. So again, it's in a cobblers. So it means A cob yeah. Yes.  

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Testicles. Yeah. So what's an all? Aid so all is spelled a w l. Is that I know what a cob a cobbler's last   is what they put their shoes over. Those sort of metal things, don't they, to beat them? It wasn't that a last, but I don't know. Is the is it   look. See, Mark, we wanna know what an awl is now. We're right nosy. Is it that implement they use to drive the   stitching through the boots? Is that what an awl is? Yes. AWL?  

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Here it is. I've just looked it up. I've, I've just,   Googled it. Says a cobblers awl. The awl is a   turned wooden handle marked   with a government broad arrow.   Mhmm. Oh, it's just yeah. It's like a steel needle. It's it's a great big and that is a cobblers all.   Yes. So it's a it's a what they used to have in the old days is just like a sort of a a needle with a wooden handle that they sort of used to,   I suppose, just sew the leather on. To puncture it. So now you know everyone.  

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Yeah.   Mhmm. That's great. So you've just got some cockney rhyming slang, Paul. You've just got some cockney rhyming slang, Paul. Yeah. I did. I Do you have a lot of cockles?  

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Or the town halls? That's another one.  

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I was trying to follow the lyrics, but I they were I  

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Quite in this.  

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Quite in that song just then. Yes. I think those I think those lyrics were nice. I think I'm gonna have to slow it down, like, 75%   and then listen to it over and over, and then I'll be able to get it.  

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But I think the lyrics in that song were quite sweet and nice and good.   And nothing to do with the rather,  

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you know It was a right jaunty tune, it was.  

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It was jolly lovely and everything. The new mules, they're one of your guys. They're your guys out there.   I've forgotten what state they're from.   I I I love that stuff. I just think it's great. I love the harmonies. They're a sort of four or five piece band. They got obviously,   some girl singers. They're chaps singing the song fit. I just love all that stuff. I think it's great. So   if, you know, just like it it was composed in the back of someone's barn. It just comes out fresh and great and real. I I loved it. I thought it was a really good tune. I like stuff like that. More of this stuff coming up, everybody. It's driving everybody wild. It's gonna replace disco.  

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That's right.   XO has just said go that far.   No. No. I don't think I would either really. Disco. I would just thought that. Yes.   XO said, I woke up this morning thinking about the term clodhopper.   Where did that come from? That's, clodhoppers.   Yeah. It's not rude, is it?  

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A clodhopper. What is it? What is a clodhopper? Is this someone who's, bad at walking?   It's kind of I don't know. Of. Yeah. I've heard it. Alright. Clawed hopper is someone who's sort of like, I don't know, walks slowly, is it?   Just walking too slow or clumsily? Slowly,   maybe. Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah.  

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Clod hoppers. So it's just an Hey. I'm just looking out now. Clod hoppers   has two main minis, a clumsy or awkward person   and a type of heavy thick soled shoe or boot.   That's what it was. Yes. It's a thick child boot.   It can also refer to a clumsy way of moving.   The shoe meaning is often associated with work or outdoor wear.  

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Yes. That was it. It's a clod hopper, wasn't it? Yes. I I think we got that pretty much. So We we got the word clumsy in in there, didn't we?   Yeah. It's good to turn the show into a a dictionary show. I quite like it really. We maybe we could do the dictionary in one week and just what words do you want to know next? I'm gonna say something that sounds rude, but I assure you Really? On a family show. Yeah. And it's not rude, and this is quite polite.  

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Freezing the balls off a brass monkey.   Now that's not rude. And what it was is,   when they had cannonballs,   they used to put it on like a little tripod stand, which was called a monkey.  

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And when it got really cold, the cannonballs used to come off the monkey. And that's why they say it's freezing the balls off a brass monkey because it's Yeah. They they were made out of brass for monkeys. That's right. I I had it that a monkey was a brass box. So to be ready to fire the cannonballs, they would take the balls out of the box   and put them on top of the box so that if they had to, you know, loose off a volley or whatever they had to do, they could get the cannonball down the barrel pronto without having to struggle and open the monkey up. I don't want to open the monkey. I quite like I don't know why it was called a monkey. And the brass would contract   on the morning when it got cold overnight. Right. They'd live it would contract when and the the and the so called the balls to roll off,   falling on the head of the sergeant major, much to his chagrin, I think,   or wherever he was. Yeah. So the balls would fall off the brass monkey. So it was that cold. That's why. That's right. Eavesdropping is another one because, you see,  

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people don't the other one was an architectural term, first of all, coin.   People think coin. Do they mean that, you know, pennies or coinage?   No. That was actually a name,   of the corner of a building. It's the coin.   That's that is the old fashioned way of saying. But,   eavesdropping   I guess, everybody knows what eavesdropping is. Does everybody know what eavesdropping is?   Well, I'll say it just in case.   Yeah. Please do. If you look at the,   old, so we say, buildings from the middle ages, they had what was called jetties.   That is the upper floor   was,   wider than the lower floor.  

And Right. And,   I hope I've explained that correctly.   That's why you see places like York and that,   oldie, worldie places, and also Waltham Abbey, where you see the upper floor   wider than the lower floor. Again, it's to get more space in the house   and more street space. Now when it was raining, people used to stand under these jetties to get out the rain.   And Yeah. The windows were open   And people and people couldn't look for full glass, so they didn't probably didn't have glass windows. They had shutters.   So people would listen to arguments and things that are being said inside the house, and that was what was called eaves dropping because I stood under the eaves of the house,   and they're hearing what people are saying inside. So they're eavesdroppers.  

That's where it comes from.   So there we go.  

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Great.   Is that boring? That's really good. Unbelievable. No. It's not. I love all that stuff. Well, if you, you know, you end up sometimes using I think it's worth using words that you don't understand till he gets so that somebody picks you up and do you know what you just said? I go, actually, no. No, I don't. What did I just say?   Give me a minute. I'll just go I've just got to go to the toilet. Then you go in there where the dictionary is, then you can come back and sort of, you know, cover your bushes. But yeah. House houses used to have wide eaves as well because it wasn't only under jetties they stood. They stood under the eaves of houses because not every  

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all the houses had jetties they had these very very very wide eaves and I've often said that it's when you look at the property is the roof that makes it attractive   and when you have wide eaves it generally makes the house look more attractive That's my Mhmm. That's why I don't like Georgian houses very much because they haven't really got much of it. They haven't got any eaves at all, generally. So that's a little little something there.   So isn't   another little boring,   observation?  

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It's no. It's all it's good stuff. I like all that kind of stuff. So what so we're gonna have to build a private members association so that we can all associate   to,   to deal with this nonsense that's running through the world. We're really gonna have to deal with it, aren't we? Yeah. Well, you think about it. If you gave out I mean, if a hundred of these leaflets  

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cost pennies to produce, it would not a hundred. You could probably get 500.   And if people, all they need would need to take out with you be at twenty or thirty,   and you you're speaking to people and if you got a jacket on or something like that or backpack, you just take a leaflet out. They're very small.   Give it to the person. So there's a lot of explanation and they can read it and look at it and think, oh, yeah. That's interesting.   And I think what is needed   is people to start asking questions.   I mean, why should you have some,   I won't say.  

I'll be polite about this. Some,   stranger   looking after your affairs in local council   when you never why do we need a local council for? When you could actually get the services done locally   by ourselves without a council for about a fraction of the price.   And a very good service at that. And if they don't Yeah. If you pay people to empty your bins and they didn't come along at the precise time to empty your bins, they would tell them, well, what's it? Often, you get someone that can. That's the way it would work.   Also, instead of having   police because did you know the origins of the police are not there to protect the public? They're there to protect the aristocracy.  

That's always happening.   So   that way, we could pay for our own security people to walk around where you live.   And,   it stops   burglars. It stops   crime. It stops petty crime.   And,   also,   if people if we live in more of a community,   you won't need to have I mean, why have speed cameras and things like that? That that's no. No. It's not the way. That just make antagonizes   people.   It would just be antisocial   to drive at dangerous speed. And I'm sure that given a couple of generations   of this brainwashing that's been if we're removing the brainwashing that we've had for over eighty years,   you would have a very polite society. There's always one   that will bad apple. But they're always very, very they're always a minority. You can't stop that. But they will be outclassed.  

Years ago, they'd just be chased out of town. That would be it. Get out. We don't want you here.  

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So I guess I mean, if we look at it maybe from a sort of,   I don't know, a more detailed thing, and this is nothing new either.   When you I'm thinking about property and buying a house   and the land on which it sits.   So,   my understanding of this is just general. It's not detailed enough for me to be fully coherent about it.   But as I understand it, when you buy a house,   you only own the land, and I could be mistaken on this, of course, over here down to a certain depth. Everything below that is the property of this entity called the crown.   This control of land is really the first sort of control point that we've had to endure for hundreds, if not thousands of years. You know, you have to stand somewhere.  

You have to house your wife and your children somewhere.   And so we have this situation, don't we, where   what is occurring is that everything is becoming like temporary accommodation. And I've droned on about the house the price of houses,   and it's all part of it. But   can you literally make an Englishman's home it's your castle again? I think during or with the arrival of Magna Carta, that was, I'm gonna say, deemed to be the case. I don't know. I don't fully know. What's the I mean, what's the situation, Paul, in The States with regards to   actual land ownership? Can you actually buy it and keep it in your family forever, or am I just living in la la land? Do you know? No.  



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Not   No. Not as it is now. You only get beneficial title to the property, which means you get the right to dwell on the surface.   You don't get ownership of any of the air above it or the ground below it.   None of the water or mineral rights come with it. You merely   have   the right   to exist   there   without being called a vagrant   and hauled off.   Yet, allodial Mhmm. Ownership,   allodial   right   is not a thing,   not unless   you   go to the original land grant and you pull it forward   and you make claim   of right in a lodium,   and then you find somebody   at the clerk's office that will actually   allow you to file that paperwork   because they have been trained to stop it right at the door.  



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What is a low deal title then?  

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A low deal What is it? Right in a low deal is   full, complete, unfettered, and unrestricted   ownership   to a thing.   And   you pay no taxes on it.   Nobody can tell you what to do on it or with it, and it is passed to your heirs   in perpetuity Mhmm.   Without,   limitation,   without restriction, limitation, or tax.  

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I like the sound of that.  

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However   Mhmm.   You better have,   your own little fire department,   your own little police department.   Because if you have a lodial title to a property,   it's not on the tax rolls.   The fire department will not come and put out a fire on your land, and the cops will not come and defend you if somebody is encroaching on your land.   You are  

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responsible for this care. I like all of that.   I love that.   Okay. I love it. When we moved into this house here, the previous owners, and I'm in the process of ripping it out now, had put one of these big sort of motion detector security systems in. Yeah?   Why would I want that?   I mean, seriously, I have no idea that I hear these adverts that you've got to protect your house. No. You don't. Why why would I need to do that? Well, someone's gonna come in and rob it. Not not my house. They're not. There's nothing here to take out. They're They're welcome to if you wanna take that settee, you'll save me the sort of removal costs.   But there's you know, I I thinking of it logically, like, my house is just a three bed semi down here on the coast where we live,   and it's more than adequate for all of my needs forever, frankly. I'm not lust people that want and can afford big properties, I do not envy them at all,   nor am I covetous of what they've got.  

But if it works for them, that's fantastic. And if they keep it in a good state of repair and it's a handsome building,   there's the rub, not many of those new ones these days, then that's fine. I don't sort   of get envious of them in any particular way. I don't think people ever have. You just wanna be able to organize your own space. And I thought with regards to sort of burglary into your house,   if someone's in my house and the alarm system goes off, isn't that a really bad thing?   I mean, first of all, this individual, this mythical,   you know, breaker and enterer into the house   would know that other people in the house now knew that he or she, I suppose, you know, gotta be fair all around, was in the house. This would alert them that the people in the house were about to wake up and come at them. I wouldn't want that. Why would I want that?  

I don't you know, I don't need to worry about it. This property is not big enough for it to be not policeable by my ears and my senses. Or I suppose what I could do, Paul, is get a cat. Should I get a cat back? A guard cat like you were talking about earlier.   A guard cat. I mean, it's a strange thing. I know about guard dogs, but guard cats really is a new one on me. I'm still a bit puzzled. I don't know what to do. But maybe come up meow and go, you know, basically, there's someone in the house. But I'd still have to deal with it.   You'd still have to deal with it.  



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You know, you could just fake it and put a sign on your front door that says,   warning, there's property protected by an attacked cat.  

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Angry man inside, currently asleep.   When roused, very dangerous. Don't think about it. Move on to other properties.  

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Get or or we could have give up your life of crime and become a good person. Yeah. But I yeah. But I think all all you'd have to do is, like, have a picture of a cat and just a statement  

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on there. I don't think you'd actually have to have a picture of a cat. I I don't think you'd have to go to a cat. And other mythical creatures. Yeah. Because because I would think  

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that,   well, like,   warning,   do not touch   would have to be this one of the scariest things ever to read in braille.   So so all you need is just a picture   picture a picture of the cat and warning,   this property is protected.   Stay away.  

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Have you got a low deal title at Fockham Hall, Eric? Eric, has Fockham Hall got a low deal title to the   to where it stands?  

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I should have, shouldn't I? But it sounds a little bit like is it similar to a trust where people put their property into a trust? No. This is what they're talking about over here, or is that completely have I got the wrong end of the stick? Is that No. That just transfers beneficial ownership. See, there's  

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beneficial ownership where you get the benefit and the right to dwell   on a property, and then there's a Uh-huh. Ownership in elodium or right in elodium. There is no such thing as a   lodial   title. There's no such thing. That's that's just   a slang term that's been come up or the   what you have is right   in a lodium,   and a property right is not property is not a thing.   Property,   results   or or refers to the right   in and   to the thing. So it just gives you access to it,   but it doesn't give you ownership of  

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it. It's well, it's like your Yeah. I mean, does it not also give you when you have property in a thing, Paul, the way I've tended to think about it is that you are the decision maker   with regards to the use of that thing.   With You get to decide who uses it. You're all just me, actually. Yeah. With permission? You're the permission granter or the permission withholder. I am the decision maker with yeah. That's it. You're certainly not here. 24 Belvedere Avenue. Yeah. No. You're certainly not here in The United States. If you wanna add on a room, you have to buy a permit.  

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You have to A room? Follow international   building codes   to put that addition on your property.   If you if you have a homeowners association that has claimed   authority   over the entire neighborhood,   you have a Mhmm. A small list of paint colors   that you can paint your property because they don't want any wild purples or anything like that. It'll bring down the property. I kinda   I kinda sort of agree with that one. You have to okay. But you have to bring your trash bins. You have to bring your trash bins back to the house within twelve hours   of the expected pickup time for the garbage.  

I mean, you can't have you can't have your lawn one inch too long. I mean, the homeowners associations,   they just go crazy.   So, no,   even if you own the property,   you don't have the right to decide what to do with that property unless you have right in a lodium.   Because if you just own it,   you're   Tell you okay. Let me give it to you straight.   You are just the schmuck   caretaker   for what they intend to take from you eventually   anyway.   That's what you are. Well, that  

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I I get   I see the cut of your jib and it's not untrue.   As you were talking there though, thinking about this homeowners association and the fact that I don't like houses being colored purple,   When we sort of pan it out, not you know,   no man is an island.   I'm not one. You're not an island, are you, Eric? Anybody here an island? I'm not an island. Don't think Is this from that poem? No. No. I don't think so.   And, so No Man is an Island. This is from that poem by John Donne.   And therefore, it's all about we have to we obviously have to interact and relate with the rest of the tribe, the village, wherever it may be. And so this is why   it's all about relationships,   isn't it?  

And good neighborliness   good neighborliness is required. I mean, where I live,   all my neighbors are fantastic.   They're really they're just great. No one seeks to put anybody else's   nose out of joint. There aren't any wild and loud and crazy parties with people with ghetto blasters. I I wanted to say that because it's so old fashioned. I know they're not there. But there's nobody playing rowdy music at 03:00 in the morning. It might happen once or twice in the year. I don't really mind, you know, in the summer. Sometimes that happens. But generally, overall,   it's a really calm,   space and neighbors talk to one another over the fence. We've still got to go because we live in a close, so it's like a cul de sac as we call it. I don't know if you use that word in The States, but it just goes round in us so that we don't have any through traffic. It's just like a little you you come in here and you turn around and go back the way you've come. So we don't get a lot of,   throughput of traffic   and it works   great. It you know, I'm happy.  

I could live in a lot lot worse places.   But there is a kind of unwritten rule, which is the best ones, of course, because we're following it by convention and out of a sense of, tradition   amongst us as a people   that you don't paint your house purple or black. That'd be completely out. And, of course, if you did, I guess the local council would step in it. I mean, when you said about a permit to add a room on, we basically got the same thing here. If you want to build a conservatory, I think this is true, Eric, isn't it? If you want to add an even a small extension to your house, you have to put in a planning application to build a Yes. You put planning application. Also, you've got to  

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where I live, you've got to be a long member of the local Masonic Hall,  

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or just given it and,  

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I get a brown envelope,   which is a very thick envelope   Yeah. To,   certain people, and it just fly through.   I'll give you an example.   I won't mention any names,   but there was, a chap that wanted to,   he,   I'm trying to think of the business he was in. He was in a business that,   had display vehicles that went round, and and they were, packed up for winter. You need to build Right. Need you to build a great big,   shelter for them, and you can never get planning permission.   And then he became mayor, and then suddenly, he got planning permission. Isn't that amazing? Slap my thigh. What a what a coincidence.   And and things like that. But the last planning meeting I went to with the public were allowed,   they said,   oh, which is,   it's going to be approved anyway, so we're just going through the motions.  

And they're supposed to be discussing whether they're gonna have it or not.   It was so corrupt. It was just openly corrupt.   And this is the problem, but it's even more corrupt in France because in France, you gotta get permission   from the local mayor if you wanna build.   So what happens is the local mayor is butted up. He gets the back enders, and   yay or no. He's a very wealthy chap. Yes. That's right. He get leaves office,   very much more richer than when he went in, you know.  

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Does he?   Yes.   Yeah. That doesn't seem to me like a good arrangement, frankly. That seems open to abuse, which is obviously what's happened. Yeah. There was one counselor.  

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I mean, when you go to planning meeting, you see counselors fast asleep. They actually go there for the, for the food, and it it's a nice, you know, nice coffee. And if they got a a wife that they don't get on with or a husband they don't get on with, it's a perfect place to catch up with your sleep,   because they don't vote on it. Well, it's like coordinated   voting. But there was one councillor that moved to Cornwall and still thought he could be a councillor for councillor for the area. He's only traveled by train to get here once a week   just to represent the people.  

Mhmm. The councilors do not represent the people at all. It's a load of rubbish.  

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So There's a comment here from, there's a comment here from Woody Peak, Eric, in the in the chat just on this thing about probably private trusts are the ones to go for, I believe. I'm of the similar view at the moment,   mister Peak or missus Peak. Well, Woody's a gentleman's name.   In fact, I'm seeing some people about this whole thing about private trusts because the super duper super rich,   the big chaps, they all of their affairs are handled and managed through trusts,   which are defended, of course, by   an army of lawyers and solicitors and the like, which, of course, the super rich can afford to maintain it. But I think there's also something inherently in the structure that's good. We've mentioned here about the farmers over here getting, you know, pushed around and bullied by all this kind of stuff as everybody is getting bullied. And that the solution for them is to form trust. So a trust training course is I'm sure they exist.  

It's it's getting Yeah. It's internal selling. It's like, Eric, if you said to me, I've just set one up, Paul, I'd be right I'd be all over you to find out the it's like you need to know a friend who's doing it, then it becomes real, doesn't it? And it's a rare thing, I think, that you know There's a plug on my show that's talking about it. I can't remember his name now, but he was talking about setting up trusts.  

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Oh, about couple of months back.   Right.   And no disrespect to him. I mean, I I just can't remember his name, but,   but, yeah, she was talking about setting up my Then I can't remember who he was.   Yeah. Good.  

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Who the bloody hell are you?  

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Okay. Sure, mate. Well, worst one is when someone comes on, you call them by the wrong name.   I've had that before now. So I have Hello, Andrew. More those pooch or not. You know?  

[01:34:06] Unknown:

I've just had that happen to me only two days ago. It was an event. Right? And there were some distant relations   at this event   that I didn't know. And I really ought to have known because I went to their wedding, but it's about thirty years ago, and I just couldn't remember. Actually, I thought I'd remembered this chap's name.   And all day long, he never corrected me.   I was calling him Peter.   Right at the end, he said, I'm serious. This is only two days ago. I've just remembered. Yeah. Peter. Yeah. I kept going, oh, see you, Peter, and all that or whatever it was.   He said,   my name's not Peter.  

I said, it's Bob.   I've just been calling him Peter all day.   My eyes.  

[01:34:48] Unknown:

I've seen that.   Was. Only falls and horses with that check keeps calling him Dave.   Alright, Dave. Alright, Dave. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Yeah.  

[01:34:58] Unknown:

I was a bit like that.   Yeah. Oh, gosh. I was suitably, awkwardly embarrassed. It was not good. It really wasn't. Oh, because it's terrible  

[01:35:06] Unknown:

memory for names. Someone can give me their name, and I've forgotten it within about thirty seconds.   Well, strange.   There's There's a lot of people I don't know what it is about names, but once a person's name   is clicked in my brain, I don't forget it. It's just gotta click in. That's it. You know?  

[01:35:23] Unknown:

But I want to read you a little thing. Let me read you a little thing. It sort of dovetails into this. It's yet again another   another area that,   private members associations or trusts or whatever need to be thinking about or we need to think about these things. I'm just gonna go this is from a little group. I don't know. Actually, it might be quite big on Telegram called Lawyers of Light. There's some very good posts in there   and,   somebody forwarded it into,   my Telegram group. So thank you for that.   I'll just read it out. It's a couple of paragraphs but it's just a it's about nitty gritty and I keep thinking that nitty gritty is where it's   it it could be a tremendous field really because people are being nibbled at just like you were talking about Eric about the,   the restrictions on parking. These micro   apparently small impositions   are not small.  

And I I feel that if you could turn them back at the level of the small imposition, it's just a matter of time then before the because they can't actually   get their way with us. This is, you know, they're just nibbling away. Anyway, let me just read you a bit of this. It says and this is a UK sort of tax situation and pension thing. It's just it's just some good little info.   The author writes, if you don't work,   you pay zero tax   to this robbing government. That's a little harsh, isn't it? Despite this, you will still get a small state pension if you have ten years of national insurance contributions,   which you can get if you claim child benefit counted,   until your child is 12,   universal credit, which is a very worrisome thing, universal credit, or ESA. I don't know what that is. And a variety of other welfare payments.  

Once you are at retirement age, which I think for chaps now, Eric, is over here 67, isn't it? Hasn't it been pushed up to 67 for retirement age? I think he has. 67.   Yes. Yes. What what is it in The States, Paul? What's retirement age over there?   Do you know?   Well, he's retired.  

[01:37:20] Unknown:

Yes.  

[01:37:22] Unknown:

Hello? He's obviously anyone here? Oh, Patrick. Oh, Patrick. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's what? What is it called? Sorry. I think. And then but they're going for '62.  

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'5.   No. They say '5 to '68.  

[01:37:36] Unknown:

Well, you can retire at 62, but, however, your retirement payments are much lower.   There's '62, '60 '5, and '68. To get the maximum amount of retirement benefit,   you have to wait   until you're 68. But the thing is, once you get to 65,   it doesn't make sense   to let them hold the money anymore because between 65 and 68, you're easily going to   get enough to cover the hit that you would take or the hit that you would save if you waited to 68.   Just   do what you wanna do.  

[01:38:15] Unknown:

Do do do pensioners get, a bus pre bus pass or any anything like that in in America?  

[01:38:22] Unknown:

I don't know. You can get a senior discount. You can get a coffee at Burger King for 59¢.  

[01:38:27] Unknown:

That's, I think, about the Well, that's probably worth moving to America for, actually. I might retire there. Yes. But it's not good, isn't it?  

[01:38:34] Unknown:

But it's not very good coffee. That's the problem.  

[01:38:38] Unknown:

Oh. Yes. Oh, dear. Well, that's no good. This is, we catch we we in it. I I said it's Good grief. Is it?   Well, I don't know. I mean, the last time I I went anywhere, I went to McDonald's   sorry, McDonald's. Yeah.   Because normally, I take a vacuum flask if I'm going anywhere. This is when my father was alive. And he was absolutely spitting feathers. So when into I thought, well, I wouldn't go anywhere. The only time I go into McDonald's is to use their lavatory, and that's it really. I I don't and,  

[01:39:09] Unknown:

Do you say that when you go in as well? Do you say, can I use your  

[01:39:12] Unknown:

your car? So, you know. So, when I two teas,   I've never had anything like it. I brought it back to the car,   sat there for five minutes,   and it was just I don't know what they did it in, but it was it's it's just you couldn't touch it. It was meltdown,   and it tasted of   just   nothing. It was always horrible.  

[01:39:36] Unknown:

So how it come That's what you get for going to McDonald's.  

[01:39:39] Unknown:

Yeah. It's your own fault. Boiling all day, and there's there's nowhere else around. I forgot to bring this vacuum flask. So that's it. That was the only place that was open. Everywhere else would close. You know, it's about 07:00 in the evening.   But,   no. It's about the, last time I went to McDonald's to buy anything.   But,   no. Quite honestly, I I think if you can want your own refreshments,   take your own. Take your own flask.   But what's got me is I've got so used to when I get out of my car for park anywhere, looking to see if it is parking restrictions.   Today, not today.  

What was it?   Yesterday,   I cycled down, which is quite a distance,   to,   Aldi's.   And   I chained my bike up. And then I went and looked for the parking predictions. I thought, hang on a minute. I haven't got my car here a day. Why am I looking to see how long I've got? I can stay there as long as I want. I'm on a push bike. But you it's surprising how that gets into your subconscious.   You know, I'd the chamber bike got they went over to the side to read it to see I mean, they couldn't do you for anything because there's no no number plate on a push bike.   It's it's and I thought that's how I've been brainwashed.  



[01:40:52] Unknown:

I didn't realize. It's nice, isn't it? Is it nice it's nice being brainwashed, isn't it? Isn't it good? It's reassuring.   I like to be brainwashed, then I know what everybody else feels like. It's good every now and again. Let's let me just finish off this little this little thing about this stuff here. It just goes on blah blah blah blah ESA payment. Once you're at retirement age, that's where we just left over, wasn't it? Any shortfall between this small state pension and the government's minimum set weekly income level I love all these descriptions. It's not their fault.   Will then be met by pension credit,   which is purely means tested and not national insurance basis. Exciting stuff, isn't it? Which means that you will get a maximum of £218   and 15 p I presume that's a week. Or is that monthly? Good grief. If you're single,   the full state pension is currently only £225   per week per person, which you only get after thirty five years of national insurance contributions.  

So working all your life   gives you £7   extra a week.   That's quite a thing, isn't it?   So, I mean, I've often felt that the National Insurance thing is just basically a giant pyramid scheme. It's plundered anyway, and they use the pension funds to prop up this, that, and the other. Of course. It is difficult. It's it's just difficult to sort of really have much the problem with finding out more and more of this information is that you just have less and less conviction in the place that you live. You just go it's just so disastrously bad the more you find out about it. Not that I'm shocked by this. I mean, I've known about these sort of soggy horrible things for donkey's years. But, you know, people are just stumbling across this kind of stuff. And particularly in later years when when people just want some stability.   You remember that? In their lives, it's gonna be very difficult to acquire it.  

The other thing you write, sir, is if you do decide to work, I wouldn't suggest anybody if you're doing that, not only do you have to pay to get to work the exorbitant, you know, train, bus, or fuel cost and the parking cost, sir, because of course you have to pay those. Is it? You also have to pay the government for the pleasure courtesy of taxation. The whole thing is just it's lost its meaning.   And this is why I think everybody is aware of this, you know, with with these increasing,   are they really these control systems through, say, electric bills, water bills, food bills,   no one is able to plan a sensible life, which of course is obviously part of the plan,   is a part of their plan. So it's,   I'm just throwing out all these I mean, this is like cliches. I'm just going through all of the sort of things that are going on with us at the moment. They're pretty obvious. I know we've mentioned them repeatedly, but they're you can't really mention them repeat them enough.  

Everybody is concerned about this stuff and therefore, I think that this is what you would call, say, fertile land   for growing   whatever it is that we need to grow so that we can associate to fight off evil men and help Edmund Burke's quote come true as it were.  

[01:43:48] Unknown:

Well, I agree. But what what what policies we're gonna have with the political non political party   cannot be elected? Now, obviously, the first one is usury to eradicate it. Second one is to arrest all the usury scammers,   arrest every MP that's ever been in parliament   Oh, yes. After 1973   because Edward Heath committed treason in 1973,   and they'll be charged with treason.  

[01:44:14] Unknown:

What else? Oh, yes. Purple I mean, I seem to I sometimes feel as though I'm actually batting on their side recently. I don't know what's wrong with me. But if we take this process of arresting people,   literally, how would that be achieved?   This is if we think about it, say,   in terms of a a normal world, there's an assumption. Maybe there's an implied assumption that we've got, which is that the police force could be relied upon to do that task.   But that's not true, is it? You've got a good point. Relied upon.   It couldn't be relied upon them. Because  

[01:44:49] Unknown:

you see, the thing is is, as I say, the police have never worked for the people. It's always been to us to,   is for the, aristocracy   to look after their wealth, to protect the  

[01:44:59] Unknown:

aristocracy from us. That's what police are there for. They used to work for the people.   They even used to have to protect and serve on their police cars, which were called   cruisers,   not policy   enforcement   vehicles.   Now that that all changed in the seventies.   And the the police were actually started   to as a protecting force   for Wall Street. I mean, New York was the first place where the police were actually created.   That's why the NYPD   is. So   screw them. Anyways,   no. No. They are   the even the US Supreme Court has said that the police are not there to protect   or serve you   or protect your rights. They are there to protect the interests   of the corporation,   their employers,   not the people.  

So no. No. But Sorry.   The the they're they're revenue collectors, aren't they? That's Oh, yeah. They're revenues. Hey. Hey. I'm telling you. Them folk down there in Appalachia, they got them steals out in the backyard and out the back 40, they run them halfway up the mountain. They knew exactly what damn revenues was when they come looking for that liquor store. They knew exactly what they are. They just there for the money. They ain't there to do to protect or serve or the hip or nothing. They're just there for the dang money, their revenues.  

[01:46:31] Unknown:

Pardon? We're gonna have to write that character in we're gonna have to write that character into a radio comedy show, Paul. You've let that one out the bag now. Yes. This is Patrick, by the way, welcome to the show.  

[01:46:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Thanks.  

[01:46:44] Unknown:

Yeah. It's not yeah. I heard you mumbling around. We've not formally said hello to you. So how's your day been? Oh, perfect. Obviously, you've been out threatening cheese or doing something interesting or something. Oh, an old friend of mine came by, and then we'd had a nice little chat. Him and his dad stopped by at my workplace. And  

[01:46:58] Unknown:

Right. I was busy doing that for a little bit. And I'm glad to be here. So We're glad to have you. It's good.  

[01:47:05] Unknown:

I got a little comment and just   zooming back to this a low deal title. Actually, it's not a little comment. It's quite a long one. But I got it in another commentary channel that I've got here. Private stuff. You know what it's like.   A load this is a quote, I think, from something   because it's   in speech marks so it must be. A loadial title   constitutes   ownership of real property   that is independent   of any superior   landlord landlord, landlord even.   Yeah. Elodial title is related to the concept of land held in elodium   or land ownership   by occupancy and defense   of the land.  

Most property ownership in common law jurisdictions   is fee simple.   I don't know what that means. In The United States,   the land is subject to eminent domain by federal, state, and local government,   and subject to the imposition of taxes by state and or local governments, and there is thus no true   allodial land.   That's because the comment goes on true allodial title is passed down through the family   since the original land grant.   My cousins have allodial title in New York because it's   it's,   stayed in the family since the King of Netherlands, we all remember him, granted them the land.   So there we go.  



[01:48:29] Unknown:

Also title. Go oh, go ahead, Eric.  

[01:48:32] Unknown:

No. No. Carry on, Paul. Patrick, I was gonna say that the  

[01:48:37] Unknown:

the traditional   Christian,   patriarchy   would pass down   the land and the property to the firstborn son.   And in America, that changed.   And that's why we have the system that we have now.   A bunch of radicals came in   and created a constitution,   and the fee simple type setup.   I was gonna ask Paul What does  

[01:49:01] Unknown:

fee simple mean, Patrick? What does fee simple mean? It does like like what you said where  

[01:49:08] Unknown:

eminent domain comes into play if some powerful   government organization comes in and says we need your land for a new,   interstate highway.   Yeah.   Here we go. The constitution says we have to compensate you. So we're gonna compensate you, but it you know, we're taking your land whether you like it or not type of situation.   Whereas   the Christian   Christendom,   it it's set up so that   you inherit the land, the land passes on when the father dies to the firstborn son.   Right. And from there, it's distributed amongst the family from the firstborn son.   And that's the way it existed in Christendom for quite a long time, for thousands of years, and or at least a thousand years.  



[01:49:54] Unknown:

Yes. And Which was pretty good. Get their mitzvah.  

[01:49:57] Unknown:

Exactly.   Exactly. And it was it was,   mediated through the church and   the the,   you're talk when you talk about police, you're basically talking about   militia or military power. Because that's There you go. It's the state. The state is the militia.   Absolutely right. The the backing of that.   I was wondering, though, Paul Beener, did have you ever heard of a land patent?   I I my dad was into these patriot groups back in the nineties, and they used to talk a lot about   capital letter names, the UCC code,   and, I remember they they got into the land patent   deal with the BLM.  



[01:50:40] Unknown:

Well, there's the land grant,   which was the beginning   of the ownership of the land,   and   you get a land patent,   which is essentially   right in a lodium,   but that's very difficult to get.   You gotta go back to the original,   to to the the original first owners of the property. Now if you really think about it, okay,   if you really think about this stuff, it's all fraud,   every bit of it,   because   the federal government never owned the land.   They never   bought the land. They don't hold title deed to the land.   The land was,   given and entrusted   to man   by god.  

The federal government   sticking their nose in there, building roads and hacking out little parcels that they can sell or   whatever or land that they can grant, they didn't own it in the first place. So it's all fraud. Every single square inch   of dirt   around the globe.   Well, except for maybe, like, a monarchy, but they did it by,   they did it by royal decree.   Didn't mean they own it,  

[01:52:07] Unknown:

does it? No. They protected it. There again, it's the police.  

[01:52:11] Unknown:

They protected it. They protected that land. So it's kinda like the same thing in The United States. If you've got a piece   of unkept   land, like, on your block and you mow the lawn and pay the taxes on that property for seven years, guess what? You can go petition a judge to grant you title deed over that property.   You just   bought that property with seven years of sweat equity.   Or if you're a squatter and you're and you actually managed to sit in a property   and maintain it for seven years, guess what? That's your property. You didn't have to buy it. You worked for   it. How does that fit in a load deal situation?  

It doesn't.  

[01:52:58] Unknown:

No. You're right. But, in, my dad told me that, I mean, his his father,   bought property when he was a kid.   And, his father was a blind greengrocer,   which is quite something.   And,   he's the dep was saying that in the twenties and thirties,   you had to pay a tax   to the,   royals.   I think there's a king then   And you paid,   every year you had to pay a certain amount   to the, king who owned the land or the queen. That was,   eradicated,   I think after the World War two. Before World War two, you had to pay a kind of,   land tax whether you own the property or not. And Right. I know that the Queen only   sorry. The,   in Canada, Canadians only own one foot underneath their property. Below that, it belongs   to quick King Charley boy, the turd.  

Right. So if you struck oil, say, on your land,   then that oil belongs to Charley boy.   Yep. In Canada. Well,  

[01:54:06] Unknown:

and no wonder they have   an oligarch that came in from the Bank of England and and didn't even live in Canada. Now he's the prime minister.   Right. Figure that one out. Oh, yes.  

[01:54:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And 10 to 19  

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Before we get to the end of the show, I'd like to I'd like to try something   something,   particularly jaunty and entertaining.   A brief discussion between,   a husband and a wife. The wife says, I'm heading out to escort the canine on a jaunty trek about the neighborhood.   And the husband says, why don't you just say you're going to walk the dog?   And the dog goes absolutely nuts.   That is exactly why she said a jaunty trick about the neighborhood so the dog wouldn't know what was gonna happen.   I think that's that's a lot of what we've got going on. The people just don't know   how screwed they have been through their entire life,   and they just don't  

[01:55:11] Unknown:

know how to fix it. That's our job. Well, we're included in that as well. We're we're less   unaware of that, but it's still going on, isn't it? Yes. I mean, that's you know, I'm just trying to look at myself. I go, I understand that there's a pro at least we know that there's problems everywhere, but we might not be able to sort of unpick every single one. And then you're thinking about how do you read how do you redress this? How do we correct it? How do we restore what is right? We've got to know what is right. And, of course, an association,   I'm envisaging it in a good way,   which is me being naive. You're thinking of like minded, like hearted people   with   a a unified moral and ethic ethical standard between them, which is what Christendom used to supply. It's what race naturally supplies. But you still as we I think, Eric, maybe you mentioned before, you're always gonna get a few assholes in there buggering, oh, that's life. It just happens. Right? That's always gonna happen. But what we're looking for is to say, look, the whole purpose of this association is to reduce the level of assholery   going forward and improve   the level of moral and ethical behavior between us because the more I keep thinking about all of the we're talking about stuff like land and property, but the real safeguard against that and your well-being   is the relation with your neighbors.  

If your neighbors are we'll use the word good.   If they're on the same wavelength as you, you're naturally   they're naturally gonna help you defend your stuff because they know that you would naturally help them defend theirs. And their stuff is just somewhere private to lay their head, read a book, be with their family, cook food, get dressed, do the usual ablutions, just live, have a a space where they can be unmolested and in peace,   knowing that they're also surrounded by lots of people who want exactly the same thing and that we're all working together to secure it. You wouldn't need you know, I'm getting all naive now. You would need a police force if everybody was like that. And this comes back to the point that Patrick's mentioned repeatedly over the past few weeks is that it is about moral and ethical standards.   Just to use modern language, we're talking about and coming back to the other room, it's the duty to the law, to this way of life,   which, you know, we're describing all these ways in which it's been hammered.  

So I don't think you can own anything. I mean, I don't know what it means. I I do. My own head. What I'm simply saying is I'm the steward of this house   whilst I'm alive and I choose as the steward and because I have control over this house that when I pass,   of course, it used to be the laws Patrick was just saying, my sons get it. That's what I'm gonna set up a trust for. I want to do that.   I I've got no use of the damn thing. You come here with nothing and you live with nout. We just want the use of the thing to make life bearable so that we might be able to grow a bit and understand it a bit better, you know, for for our innings and do well and good by other people. And we want to live with people who've got the same attitude, don't we? And guess, you know, the disruption   with all the mixing of the races   brings mayhem   into that. I have no idea   how, you know, people in Haiti really want to operate. I haven't got any interest in it either. It's down to them to sort it out, but you don't wanna bring bringing them into   I would prefer it if they weren't brought here. That's all another thing. The other force.  

I know. But it's all about an impingement on your ability to actually be stable and to maintain your moral and ethical behavior because we're being disrupted continually by Right. You know, these, everybody knows this, but that's exactly what's going on. It's definitely another aspect of it, isn't it? That's the whole thing of what this is. That's the whole thing of what this show is all about,  

[01:58:41] Unknown:

is,   informing the people of what's going on in as entertaining and lighthearted a way as we can possibly muster.   Fraud isn't fraud until it's discovered.   A law isn't broken until somebody knows you broke it,   and you cannot fix anything  

[01:58:59] Unknown:

until you know what's wrong. That's what we're here for. Highlight the lighthearted bit, Paul. You're right. It is that. At least we're all trying to point in a direction and go, this is this is where we're supposed to head back to. This is generally my view that there's more goodness in the past than there currently is right now. That said, we're just coming to the end of our stint on WBN here, so thank you for being with us for the last couple of hours. We're gonna carry on rolling   on Rumble and,   YouTube and Eurofot Radio and Radio Soapbox and a few other outlets.  

But we will be back here with you here on WBN same time next week, 3PM US Eastern, eight PM UK   time. I'm gonna play a little song as a kind of the buffer, the, you know, the transition thing as we do it. What do you call it? The glue. I've got all the wrong words but doesn't really matter. This is a bit of the good old Keith Mansfield   Orchestra. What a great name. I love this. No singing this. This is just all well, it's just this. We'll be back after this one. See you in a few minutes, folks.   The Keith Mansfield   Orchestra   with a song called Soul Thing.  

It might be familiar to lots of people that one. I think it's been using lots of advertising stuff in here, there, and everywhere but I quite like that. I don't know why I quite like it, but I do. Do you quite like that, Eric? What did you think?  

[02:03:16] Unknown:

That is right up my street. I like that. Yes. I like that sort of you know, it's it's from the sixties, isn't it? I should have thought. I think it is. Yeah. He did a lot of music. He did the grandstand,  

[02:03:26] Unknown:

theme music. Remember grandstand? Really? Yes. Yeah. Lots of things for the BBC. So and I think they're still around sometimes. They sort of convene in very large pubs and they've got like a 20 piece orchestra. They can't get the full thing with all the brass and everything but they got a bit of it in there and it's quite a do. So, yeah, there's a few videos of him going over his old stuff. And it's I just remember all that kind of incident music growing up. I love it. Yeah.  

[02:03:50] Unknown:

You're the same as me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used to like that.   There was was it?   Was that one that that German bloke called Bye Bye Blues? What was he? He's a trumpeter. I can't think of his name. I thought he meant that Alfred. Bert   Canford.   Oh, yeah. Bert Canford and his orchestra. Yeah. Yeah. That was really good, some of his stuff, But you don't get that sort of relaxing, nice sort of music anymore, you know. It's just sort of  

[02:04:17] Unknown:

I don't know why. It's hellish. It's terrible out there.   Yes. All this big No. We've got all the good old cheesy music here. We've got it here. You don't need to go out there. It'd be fine. We'll we'll go to the next one. Thanks for playing that. What is it called again? I know it's not It's called yeah. You'll find it somewhere kicking around on YouTube. So hopefully, they were sort of, you know, get grumpy with the fact that we've played it. The the little rule of thumb is if you can locate a track on YouTube that's not   the actual band itself, in other words, some independent channel is playing it and it's still up or been up for a little while,   you should be good to go to have it play on YouTube, you know, include it in anything that you play on YouTube.  

Unless it's the Eagles, in which case, there's lawsuits everywhere or something, apparently, so I hear.   So   yeah. Anyway, I don't really like the Eagles very much. No. Never had to. No. I was never an Englander.  

[02:05:09] Unknown:

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.   No   it was,   from ships. There's these huge packing cases   that were often dumped or they didn't know what to do. Similar to these containers that they've got from container ships, you know, they're making houses out and things like that. Well, these use these big sort of, like, biggish   packing cases,   they were not very high. I don't know. About   four foot, five foot high, and they're about, oh,   six foot long.  

And people   put them on wheels   and the handles on them, and would literally walk around and live in them   because there was a lot of homeless in the twenties and thirties from first World War. And you'd have these war veterans and other people walking around the country looking for work, and then sleep in the night in these wheeled packing cases that they had from ships,   and they were waterproof as well.   And,   if you see the it's on YouTube,   the great British eccentric   with Dave Allen. He did a a documentary in the early seventies. He spoke to one of these chaps that actually in the thirties did walk around them, and he's staying in someone's back garden. And he made an extension at the back for his feet so that his feet could stick out the back. I've seen that. I've seen that. You may have put me onto it a few months ago. Yeah. It's a crazy little thing.   The guy that's been living in, basically, in a wooden box for thirty years or something. That's it. That's it. And it's all eccentrics. And you think Dave Allen's going to come out with a gag, and he doesn't. He's perfectly serious all the way through. And he does a very good interview with these people because he doesn't take them to care or anything. He just listens to them. But that, I figured that was it acts as if he's a cowboy.  

That is his that is his hobby. And then a bloke lives with his wife as a red Indian   in somewhere   I don't know. It's the South Coast or somewhere.   Yeah. And it's all full of eccentrics. What's happened to eccentrics?  

[02:07:14] Unknown:

We don't seem to have so many eccentrics anymore. I don't know, Eric. Don't have any. You only need to look in your I think you only need to look in your own backyard, actually. What about fucking one?   It's staring you in the face, man. Me? Eccentric? Never.  

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Well, there's a whole movement here to take old shipping containers and make them into bunkers and that sort of thing and living quarters and   small house. The tiny house type concept that That's it. Be pretty popular.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a gem I was  

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yeah. I mean, the thing with housing, it's all been a bit mad, hasn't it, last week? I saw one guy banging on about,   the development of some housing complex.   But when you look into it, it's not that at all. It's communal shared spaces, and you get your own little room.   This is mad. I mean, this is just it's not living. You can't No. What can't you do there? You can't raise a family that   and then we've what's this thing? I don't know all the details, all the sorted details, but there's been some sort of shift to effectively   or maybe we touched on it lightly last week. How's migrants   free for five years? They get all their rent paid by the government and this, that, and the other. This is this is not I'm using the language saying, like, rent and houses and stuff, but that's not what this is. That's not what this is. This is, you know, warfare by other means. Well, that's like our factory,  

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back in the nineties.   They ended up shipping molds out to Chinese   boats out off the coast of California where they had manufacturing   set up in these big shipping ships,   and they would   just sit 200   miles, 100 miles   outside of the coast,   and manufacture goods, and then   send runner ships back and forth.   It's ridiculous   The the the that sort of thing has been allowed   and,   encouraged.   That's part of the problem we're in right now.   And if you just pay people a fair wage,   you wouldn't have that problem.  

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Well, I I mean, the idea of of us forming private members associations is a good idea. Getting us to   yeah. The guild. It's really the guild. I'm really I love the idea of the guild. It's to protect people that are in it against these things.   So   some work is gonna have to be done, ladies and gentlemen, like filling paper in or getting clear about stuff and then connecting it with other people. It's got it's just got to be built as an active thing.   And I guess everybody goes, how do we do that? And then I'm looking at how we're so trained. It's so difficult. We've actually become addicted to government. Even if you're a guinea like I am,   the structure of your life. Agreed. It's all it's all can grab you.  

Addicted to it. So, yeah, it rubs off on you. You It's like the COVID doc scam.  

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The way that people worship the doctors' opinions   is sickening.   I I didn't realize how bad it is. And family around me, just the way that they're   they're brainwashed, brain dirtied into believing that these doctors somehow have their best intentions   for them and not the bottom line, just like a lawyer or or, any of these other,   officials.   Even clerics. It's just amazing how many clerics   lacked any sort of understanding of the faith   and closed down churches   because, oh, we're afraid the government's gonna come after us. It's like, well, what? Why are you afraid? You're supposed to be fearless. You're supposed to be willing to sacrifice your life   like Christ Christ did on the cross.  

And here you are cowering afraid of invisible   demons flying in the sky.  

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I mean, fear thrives, doesn't it? Doesn't fear thrive   very much in a field of of ignorance   or a field a field of unknowingness?   Look, I mean, the the word ignorance and ignore are very useful because it should really be pronounced   ignorance   because it's a condition.  

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Yeah. I think I think of that too. I I try to take words Yeah. And find their their other meanings, other ways to say the same thing. Yeah. It's very if you say them with a different   sound or a different emphasis or a different rhythm, it reveals something hidden almost in it. That's why I like hanging out with you Brits. You have different ways of saying it than us Americans are used to, which is good. Yeah. It's good to break out of that for a bit.  

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Well, I think it I think it is whatever sort of, you know, sparks things off.   The understanding the definition I have of,   ignorance   is you are aware of this thing and at some level, you choose to stop paying attention to it. You ignore it.   Yeah. So when they say better judgment. Choose. Yeah. You do. So when the when the, you know, the the court scene, ignorance is is how it should be pronounced. Ignorance is no defense. It isn't   because it means you've actually been aware of it, and you chose to not be responsible for whatever it was that brought your condition about to appear in court. The other the there's the the actual word that people are using for that is never used,   understandably, because a bit is nessence,   which is science but with n e before it, nessence.  

And that means   to literally be unaware of a thing.   You just don't know. You can't even discuss it because you don't know what it is. You literally got no conscious   appraisal or awareness of this thing,   that's occurred, that someone else is saying has occurred or whatever. It gets very complex very quickly, doesn't it? But it's nescience that we're talking about. So nescience is a defense   that's been completely oblivious to a thing, totally unaware, no level of consciousness about this thing at all, which you could say,   we could apply that to a lot of people that are literally not conscious of the fact. The truth for those of us that have chosen to not ignore it   that the government is not your pal.  



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That's right. And they go into this habitual behavioral mode, and they go, well, the doctor wouldn't hurt me. It's not about whether he's intending to you hurt you. He's ignoring stuff as well. And and it may be that nations or whatever you call it that that he's acting out of. He might be oblivious to it as well, and you you your your job is to look out for yourself.  

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Actually, I think that bears repeating the difference between nescience and ignorance.   Because ignorance is knowing about it or hearing about it and refusing to accept it or just choosing not to.   And negence is never being exposed to it in the first place.  

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Yeah. So when when when and also when you when people say   that someone's ignorant and pronounce it like that, they're not. It's a like a net. You are an ignorant. An ignorant   is a person that ignores things.   Right. They go, oh, I'm aware of this stuff, but I'm not gonna pay any attention to it. I'm not therefore, I'm not gonna put my myself in a position where I'm gonna become responsible for it, and therefore, I can't be held accountable   for it by anybody else because I'll plead that, you know, whatever. So an ignorant is it like a type of person?   Yeah. A type of person who ignores things.  

Oh, I'm an ignorant. I am. Yeah. I like to ignore these really important things.   And, of course, if we, you know, if we if I bat on the other side, we could say that most people, they're so overwhelmed. It's so easy to get overwhelmed with an absolute blizzard of info of so called information, allegedly, that's what they call it, that it's very easy to knock you know, people only got so many hours a day, I would think, to even think.   And these hours are taken up by watching TV. It's not that TV is bad   necessarily. I mean, it is bad. I know I know it is. I'm just so They call it programming. For a reason, Paul. They call it programming for a reason.  

But one of the main aspects of that programming is that it absorbs all the spare time that a person has. And therefore, they'd never come to use that time in the way that our people used to use it before the presence of TV that absorbed all their attention span. Because before TV, people   yep. It's exactly the same thing. I'm sorry.  

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No. It's true. It's placing a misplaced authority.   It is. You're putting your trust into something. You you know, it's it's   it's reiterated.   It's just like radio is repetition.   It's   reiterated day in and day out that this is the government. This is the government. This is the way it is. You obey these people. Here's the law. This is the law.   And you just accept it because it's been   said so many times that it must be true.  

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And Mhmm. It's it That's it. And these people are gonna be else is saying it, so it must be true.  

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Yeah? Exactly.  

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They're And I I guess, you know, we   yeah. You tap it back to say your your schooling,   which is the correct way you were schooled in a thing, I. E. You're trained in a thing. You're trained down this train track, that's why it's called trains, which are limited,   and you're given,   the restricted view because that's for the betterment of everybody. So says the teacher at the head of the class who doesn't know any better either.   It's a bit of a problem this one, isn't it? It's nothing new, but   it's nothing new.  

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What about people that's really dropped out? Because I actually work with an architect   who he and his wife literally dropped out. And I was a freelance bloke, and he was freelance as well. And,   he,   I was sitting in the office one day, and,   we sort of say, well, where'd you come from? So he said, oh, he said, from Windsor. I said, well, it's a bit posh, you know. Queenie lives there. That's when Queenie was alive.   And, it was lunchtime, and, most of the blokes have gone up the boozer, I think.   It was a contract that was in the middle of nowhere, and it's just me and this other chap who weren't boozers sitting in the office.   And,   he got talking, and he I got talking to him, and he said that he and his wife got married,   bought us some detached house, mortgaged up to the the the the, you know Gills. And gills. That's right. Thanks, Patrick.  

And,  

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I love the gills, don't you? I love the gill.  

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And they got their neighbors from hell next door   that drove them absolutely round the twist.   And   it got so bad   because the police weren't interested, and I just went on and on. But his wife's father   owned a little woodland,   and,   he had a caravan.   And him and his wife used to spend weekends   up in this woodland   to get away from the hell that was their house because they've been working all week. They come home, and and then they'd have you know, they'd put their neighbors at parties and, oh, it's terrible.   Anyway, cutting a long story sideways,   they thought, well, hang on a minute. What's the point of paying all this money to live in this hellish,   place   when we could buy a lovely caravan   and live on the land? Now you're not allowed to live on land that hasn't got planning permission. I suppose it's similar in America.  

And but you're allowed to stay there in a tent or caravan for ninety days.   So what this chap did,   he sold his house,   and the money he got from his house,   he bought a caravan,   a beautiful caravan,   and used   his   parents' address   as a home address.   And he was looking for another plot of land   that was outside the county that was in.   And the idea was you can stay for ninety days, then we gotta leave for ninety days Okay. But then you can come back. So the idea was to just tow the caravan away, spend this ninety days in one place, then ninety days back where it was again. And this chap said that he said, it's lovely. He said, it's peace and quiet. I wake up in the morning and see a badger looking at me out the window.   Mhmm. Like, no neighbors.  

And he had to have, camouflage,   over the top of his caravan in the winter because apparently,   the,   council   hire planes and things like that to see, anybody that's living on land illegally.   So he made what is called a bender.   Don't laugh. And that was to to park his car under, again, with camouflage on top. In the summer, it wasn't so bad, but it's only in the winter when the leaves fall off. And he said he's quitting   because he doesn't pay any rent, doesn't pay any   any mortgage,   no rates or anything like that.   That's it. So, I wonder if anybody else has done that. And it's something I was interested in. I was planning to do that one time. I thought, well, I'm looking into dropout.  



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Gypsy.   You get your Gypsy wagon.  

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A retrofit.  

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This chap Hippie. I tell you something. You were hippie.   He drove a Mercedes   sports car,   and his wife drove a Jag   because he could afford it because he didn't have any mortgage or anything to pay. Never played,   any, well,   council tax or anything like that. So he's quitting.   I I I don't know about tax, but probably got away with that. I don't know how he did it.  

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There is a name   for that that they use in The US, but it escapes me right now.   Hobo?  

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Hobo. Yeah. Well, when you choose that condition for your life, that Right. Is it a state license that you have? Yeah.  

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Yeah. But he said that his his his caravan is centrally heated, so he's not cold in the winter.   It's   you know, he he he he likes it. He he love where he is.   And he said the only thing is you've got to put fencing around to make sure people don't walk across there. And the other thing gotta be careful of is the local village busy bossy.   That's the worst because they can put you away. But then all you have to do is just move and go on to your other plot of land.  

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But it's interesting you mentioned the local village, village, busybody thing.   Because this comes down to this thing again about relations with your neighbors,   which, you know, everybody bangs on about it. They're like, oh, we've got terrible neighbours. I've got good neighbours. Why are they terrible and why are they well, they wanna do different stuff. Maybe the solution, Eric, is for us all to take that step and become,   you know,   landless  

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individuals. We're all different. I mean, I I looked around   and I almost found a place in Cambridge here.   But the trouble was, as the entrance to this   plot of land,   it was shared ownership. I thought, no way. No way. I wanna hone the whole lot.   But the she well, I took it a stage further. I wanted to get a plot of land with an industrial building on it. So I could park the caravan inside the industrial building, and nobody know you're there. And, of course, the industrial building or the farm building would be a bit of protection in the winter  

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because I'm getting a bit ex I'm yeah. You know, you're kind of appealing to me. Yeah. You know what I was mentioning earlier? In a in a big way. And  

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and you think about it,   water,   you got one of these big farm,   buildings. You can collect the water off the roof,   and you can purify it. Not a problem there. Lectures as you can produce yourself.   You haven't got a problem there.   And as long as   you don't have to have a a fixed abode, you there's a thing you do with the post office where you can pick up your mail from the local post office.   That's perfectly acceptable. So that could be your address. A PO box here.   Yeah. Apparently, it it is a post office box here as well,  

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But there's another thing, and I can't can't remember what it is. Here we have general delivery. You can go anywhere and and you can just Yeah. Have them write, you know, whoever's sending you something, post write it Post your name and then general delivery, whatever town and zip code.  

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I know what you mean. I think it's Post Hayes, I say. Post something.   We but we've got PO boxes as well. But I thought, what a nice way of living.   Because you could park your caravan, let's say, inside this shed,   it could it could absolutely be freezing cold outside, and you got the protection.   And you're nice and cozy. And the only trouble is you ain't got any bloody windows, have you? Just look out inside the shed, but, you know, the front door open when you're in the summer.  

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So that's a little thought. Well, when I was sat on that bench the other day, on that beautiful day earlier in the week, with all the flutterbys and all the birds singing and everything,   about 30 yards on, there was then,   a site that was full of what do you call them? Temporary homes? You know, like, I mean, they're permanent homes. What are they called? Trailer  

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parks. Trailer parks. A trailer park. But, actually,   my uncle had one   Mhmm. And he,   he called it a Swedish cottage. It's called a Swedish cottage. But when you went to see him,   everything in your brain told you that it was a caravan because you got you went into it. You close the door. It's it's like a   a scene from a dodgy,   soap opera. You know, the walls went in and out. And when he went into the lavatory, he had to put the radio on because it echoed all  

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How is it, Eric, you have an unerring knack for working toilets into most of your anecdotes? They're always in there, aren't they? Well, I said to my uncle, I said he was a comedian.  

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I came out with his house. Fuck. I said, there's a terrible smell. I think it's so wrong with your  

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and they must have come from a drug dealer. I don't know what he laced it with, but I've been tripping all day long.  

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So that's a that's a possible negative. I'm glad you've sort of I'm not really glad you brought it up, but I'm glad you brought it up, Eric.   I mean, yeah. It looked this little site where I was was just fantastic. Yeah. I'm sure they're not all like that. It's absolutely beautiful. It's on the South Downs.   Yeah. What what I mean, they don't cost much.   Oh, hang on. I was thinking going forward, I thought, would I be happy with one of those? And I thought, I probably would.  

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No. You wouldn't because I was building that audience.   Go ahead. Yeah.  

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And my uncle got flung off the site. And they towed his   Swedish cottage or what he called it off the site. Sorry. I didn't mean to talk over you then, but but or trailer.  

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But the trouble is, you see, my Why did they tow it off, Eric? Was it for toilet troubles or something?   What was going on? I mean, it sounds as though they just took it away. There must have been some reason to compel them to tow it away. Oh, I think they, I think they closed the park down,  

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and they gave them something to do to leave or something like that. But he had to pay ground rent and things like that. And it oh, it it was it was a bit of a rip off. It really was. That's why I'd never buy one like that. I'd actually live in the back of a van. Much better. Because you stop wherever you want.   But   that's   what and   that's what I'm thinking about. I mean, I'll still keep my house,   but if I wanna go for a weekend away, I can sleep in the back of a cafe in and then come back again. I don't really wanna stay in a hotel or guest house or anything like that. I put, you know, live in the back of a van. Anyway, that's another thing. But only temporary, I mean Oh, maybe we have to do living in the back of a van show coming up or something and how that's all gonna work out. Yes. There was a stealth camper van, man, and and that that was all about it. But what I was gonna say, I I went we went to I went to see him, and this is when I was very young.   And,   all night, I kept saying, oh, this is a lovely   Swedish cottage,   and,   you know, so proud of it. My auntie said, oh, look at this bedroom. She'd open the door, and the bloody walls are going out. Oh, what a marvelous   Swedish cottage.  

And I went all   all through the day without saying caravan. The very last thing when we left, I said, oh, it's nice caravan, uncle. Sorry. I've forgotten that. It's a Swedish cottage. You know?   But   but, no, seriously,   they do cost   they cut they put the site fees up.  

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They're not Well, everything goes up. I mean, I'm not I might just I don't know why I'm feeling all weirdly attracted to it as an idea. Maybe it's just I'm slightly light headed at the end of the day,   and all that kind of stuff. It's sometimes   if it were imagine that Fockham Hall were running one of these sites and you, and we were all of a similar type, I won't mind living there.   I'm saying that now because you'd find out all sorts of people's weird peculiar personal habits and things. Yes. It doesn't take much for human beings to get on somebody else's wick, does it? It doesn't. We're so delicate. I can't stand this. I've gotta go. It's just exhausting. You can't keep people together for more than ten minutes. And it's just true. I'm the same. I'm not saying, oh, I'm above all that. I am. I I can't stand the sound of a ball being kicked against the wall. Drives me insane.  

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And Does it? You know, oh. But  

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I think the best part of the journey. Lads, they've got to learn their skills, Eric. You can't be the are you the not are you the guy that won't give them their ball back? You're that bloke, can't you? Yeah. Our miserable stuff. Please, mister. Can we have our ball back now? Booger off.  

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But no. Seriously, I've seen these transit vans where people deck them out inside, and they're bloody luxurious. It's just like a one bedroom   bedroom pad. And, of course,   there's one bloke. He parked up   and opens the back doors, and he said, you pay a fortune for a view like this, but I've got it free.   And you you and the good thing about it is what is it?   I think it was   oh, what's his name now? Who is that bloke in Cuba? He was shot. I can't think of his name.  

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Che Guevara?  

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That's the one. He said to be free, you gotta keep mobile.  

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Uh-huh.  

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And, really, when you get It was a bit of a fed up. It was a bit of a twat, though, Chego Rivera. You didn't complete dude. Lulu. I mean He's complete that No. He got lost in the jungle, didn't he? Because they couldn't quite understand  

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where he was going. The reason why, he'd never been in a jungle in his life. He's he's just totally luckily lost.  

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There's a few comments here, by the way, in the chat in this little theme. I'm quite enjoying talking about this, actually. It's come out of nowhere really, but it's pretty good. Aunt Sally writes oh, by the way, she she detested the song that I last   played, Soul Thing. She couldn't stand it, could you, Aunt Sally? She said it was cheesy elevator music. Well, of course, it was. That was the whole reason for putting it on.   It's the it's great cheesy elevator music. But Aunt Sally writes, there is a UK guy called The Woodlander   who lives on a plot of land. He built a wooden house,   within planning regulations.  

He has started a project to help other people. Well, you know, if there's any land left in England, I don't know. Maybe we could recolonize Birmingham or something. I don't know. There's probably no land left there at all. And later on, XO says with the arrival of,   Tesla energy technology, the gist of it is the sky's the limit. That's the gist of it. I can't actually I've just lost sight of the quote. Sorry, XO. But he actually put something into that effect, and I guess that's true. I remember I met a guy years ago   called John Searle. He may still be alive. He had an sort of an energy device that he'd first   built at Midland Electric Company where he worked in 1948.  

The problem was every time they switched it on, this thing started to pick up huge amount. It used to break all the electrical systems in the warehouse, and then it would just get to a certain sort of pitch and just literally take off through the roof and disappear   because it became magnetized with the opposite polarity of the Earth,   and would just fly off into space. But one of the ideas he had was for,   safe deposit boxes.   You could it would be a great idea if you could have your own flight, you know, sort of little satellite with all your stuff in it. And maybe that's what we're gonna get. Maybe the energy thing is such a danger because it would enable most of us to do that. You know, we were talking earlier on,   about about the baddies as it were not wanting to release this technology because for what they purport to say, it could be used for terroristic purposes, which no doubt it could. No doubt everything else is. So no doubt who whoever these terrorists may be, there There seems to be an awful lot of them in the news anyway, allegedly.  

But if we were to have these tech, these technologies   in in place to give us mobile   power,   then the idea of being,   in wheels or on wheels that are powered at very, very low cost moving around,   at certain stages in your life would be fun. But for to raise families, I think you do need permanence. You probably do need four walls and a roof. Yeah. It's probably for the best. You really do need You do need permanence.   But I could be wrong about that. I suppose travelers would argue totally against that and say no. The traveling life is full of all this moving stuff and the children learn something else in a different way.  

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You know, maybe they do. They they probably do. But we're all different. The thing is we're all different. I mean, I I give it to everybody.  

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I I like to I I I I'm a very sort of home type person. I do like having my home. Yes. But I've been around those huge caverns of Fockem Hall, aren't you, good, the high heat and everything? That's right. Start interfering with the chef down in the kitchen and all that kind of stuff and causing ruin during breakfast. I know what you're up to, Eric. Oh, yeah. He knows what you're doing. That type. But,  

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I love Cornwall.   Now it'd be nice to go down to Cornwall,   occasionally, but I don't like hotels and things like that. I like so   and I'm not that keen on staying in a tent, especially if you're struggling with rain. Whereas, what I like about converting a van,   so it looks like a builder's van,   is that, you can go anywhere, and the secret is is to park up, say, on the edge of a housing estate or an industrial area, where you just blend into the background. And then Mhmm. You you you know, and your home is at that point   where you park, and then you drive home, and you got your main home at home here. So   you think if I bought a property down in Cornwall, it would cost me a fortune. Whereas to just go down there where I want,   that's even better because you got your own house with you in in in your in your transit van. I'm just saying a transit van. It could be any other van. But No. I think it's got to I we did. When I think what year was it? '79.  



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I'm about 19 or something. Must have been about then.   My mate had had a transit van.   We're up in Leeds at the time. Cornwall was a bit of a hall, but what we did was we emptied the transit. It it was a nice one because it had windows all through the back, you know, instead of it being dark in the back. There were there were windows all up and down side of it like.   So,   we got an enormous mattress,   maybe two mattresses,   and just laid them down in the back with all our sort of camping gear, which we used as pillows. And we were just laid   horizontally as it were, you know, parallel to the back axle up and down about seven or eight of us and,   two or three in the cab at the front. And we just drove all the way down to Cornwall. It was just brilliant. Yeah. It was fantastic. We just talked all the way. Nobody got car sick,   which was good. So it's a bit wet me saying that, but I used to when I was a kid. But it was just fantastic. It's the first time I ever heard Roy Chubby Brown as well. Somebody brought a Roy Chubby Brown tape along. This is 1979.  

And we were just we're all going, what have we just heard? It was so completely outrageously   foul and vulgar. Yeah. It was quite remarkable, really. And then I yeah. Anyway, I yeah. We went to Cornwall. It was great. Absolute wonderful holiday. It really was. Because I remember we would be out on the beach and we just dig a hole for the sea to go in and we stored all the fosters lager in this big pool of water and we just stayed up all night just doing stuff. It's great when you're in and bouncing around.   Happy days.  

XO writes, you know, I just mentioned John Searle.   XO writes that John built real flying saucers. He's he did. He may still be alive at XO. He seems to he was very old when I met him. I went and visited up in his house in London,   twenty years ago, 02/2004   maybe, 02/2005,   something like that. Really nice guy, bit odd, needed was after a lot of attention about things, but his story was amazing. Absolutely an amazing story.   And, apparently, he built one of these things. They had it on nationwide,   which was the sort of, BBC's   flagship news show just after the main news. It used to be on sort of, like, ten past six to 07:00, that kind of slot, something like that. And they would sort of, you know, go around the nation and bring you local stories. And John had built this flying saucer   out of wood.  

And I remember when I spoke to him, I said, wood. He said, yeah. It goes at huge speed. I said, well, doesn't the wood all fall apart, you know, because of this huge speed? He said, no.   I was he said, no. He said, the the vehicle, as it were, builds its entire it's got its own gravitational field around it. So you could build it out of tissue paper. It won't move. And you can go at huge speeds because you're not moving in relation to the Earth. You're completely still on the inside of it. It was fascinating talking to him. I think somebody shipped him over to The States about ten or fifteen years ago to try and develop it. It's called the an SEG, the Searle Effect Generator.   Wonderful looking thing. It's got all these rotating magnets that just got unbelievable speed and build up a kind of magnetic field according to John. And I'm I'm don't want to diss him. I have no idea really. I wasn't qualified enough. It was great to meet him, But, yes, slightly eccentric. I think ex said mad as a hatter. Well, maybe. Yeah. I guess. Maybe you've got to be touched with a little bit of madness to envisage these things, but a sweet guy, really was. I quite like meeting him. So there's an English eccentric for you,  

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Eric. Wow. There is one. You know? Have you seen the one with Patrick Moore? He interviews a bloke   that can speak,   alien languages from other planets.   And this bloke is as he's a bleeding fruitcake.   And Patrick Moore, I don't know how he kept a straight face. He's sitting there. And it's a very old interview. Be able to find it on,   YouTube.   And as I speak now, I think Paul is looking for it on YouTube.   No. I'm He could speak pollute,   no. Pool number two, I'm talking about. Alright. Sorry. But you what   what do you see it?   It is hysterical. It really is. Because this bloke is pretty   one sandwich short of a full big dick sack.  

And   but he's so serious about it. You know, he believes he can play he can speak to people,   was it,   on the planet plu   oh, where is it now? Not Pluto.   Another one.   Some Pleiades. Something like that. Yeah. And he and he can't communicate with them. He got a little blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah where they had,   people could speak in light. They go.  

It's Patrick. Well, I didn't know how he kept a straight face. I'd have been be be be doubled up with laughter.  

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But, as we speak, I'll see if I can find it. I'll see if I can find it. That's why I got mute mute buttons.   Cough drops Yeah. And hiding   tremendous bouts of laughter.  

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Now where are we? See if he's on here.  

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Well, who are you looking for, Eric? You're looking for something. Patrick Moore.   Yes. The man that could speak Peluvian or something. Patrick Moore. Can't wait. I think I've seen this clip or heard it. Yeah. I'll let you just crack on with that and just let us know if you dig it up. That'd be fine. Okay. Yeah.   You might want to look for a video of the SIRL effect generator as well, but maybe in your spare time, there's people who built them. They'll yeah. I've got it. Here it is. Are you ready?  

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Right.  

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Will we be able to hear it with your sound system? No.   Why don't you stick the link into the into the rumble chat and I'll pick it up? Stick the I'm gonna stick the link now. Hang on.  

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Do you want to put it in private chat or general? Oh, yeah. Put it in the privates, will you?   Okay. It's coming in the pry   here it is.  

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Okay. Let me go grab it.   Yeah.  

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There. He's speaking here. Speaking  

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Oh, yeah. The this is this guy is absolutely mad.   This guy is as mad as a boxer fish. Let's let's read you. Mad. I remember Totally bonkers are brilliant, someone said. Yeah. The first comment on the video before we even get into it oh, I'm worried already. Totally bonkers and brilliant. But the title is Patrick Moore interviews alien speaking linguist.   Wondrous to behold. Yeah. You've got to see it. It's quite a thing. He doesn't look well, does he? Are you ready? This is I don't know if we can stand three minutes and thirty seven seconds of it. We'll we'll stand a little bit. Here we go. Are you ready?   Brace yourselves everybody. I don't know what languages but you say it's Venutian, is it, or something? I think so. Sorry about that. Oh, yeah. Well, I know Venutian quite well. Here we go.  

Right. That's enough of that.   That's really What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?   What?   What?   What?   What?   What?   What?   What? What? What? Was that they stick out nationwide? I think it was nationwide.   Yes. An eccentric linguist pretending that he's speaking an alien language. Maybe he was. It didn't sound very good, though, doesn't it? It doesn't sound that good.  

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But you're so serious the way he was speaking.  

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As if he was some leading expert on it, you know? There you go. Everybody in Rumble chat, you've got the link here. When did you guys help? Yourself out with that. Oh, boy. When was that from?  

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Late sixties.  

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Oh, sixties. Okay. Okay.   Because I think Jim Henson stole that.   Do you? Yeah. First Muppets.  

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What does that mean, actually? That means how are all you?   I am very pleased to see you   this afternoon.   How many languages Why didn't you just say that?   English is superior to that. Come on. How are you? I'm very pleased to see you this afternoon.   Dear me. What a strange man.   Now I won't be able to live next to him on a campsite, Eric. I'd have a big problem with that. You've got a problem with guys kicking footballs.   Patrick Moore's hair is all stuck up and he looks like an alien. He really looks and Patrick Moore was slightly eccentric.   But he wrote that brilliant book about how to complain about everything and drive, bureaucracy crazy. Have you seen heard of that book? Yes. And he went under a pseudonym, didn't he? He wrote under a pseudonym. But Yeah. It's a very interesting book.  



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He did a series of programs   in the late sixties,   where he spoke to scientists   who didn't believe they landed on the moon. I don't. And these blokes were head of ahead of their time.   And,   people had different views   on science and that. And I have to admit, he he was quite fit. They weren't nutty. They were quite serious about I mean, I don't believe they land on the moon at all. I really don't. But,   and there's a chap say said they can't land on the moon because the moon does its, gas.  

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And you see straight through it. Cheese, Eric. Come on. It's cheese. It is cheese. Just speak to Patrick. Patrick knows.   He knows it's cheese. They exported it from West It's from Wisconsin. It's it's just basically   Wisconsin in orbit. That's all it is, really. Yeah. Yeah. It's cheese. Everyone writes it's cheese.   There's a wonderful and there's another wonderful comment under this crazy video. This is the best thing I've ever seen, but it also seems cruel to put this guy on the television.   I think it it was. It's a bit cruel.   Absolutely marvelous. Yeah. Marvelous. Someone else writes real entertainment compared to the Ross that's on TV these days. Absolutely right. It is. It's brilliant.  

Oh, dear. They're gonna be out there. They're just not looking for them because they want to give us all these woke dullards out there,   moaning and whining and playing the victim hold. Oh, god. He's so tedious. He's so humorous.   Anyway, there we go.  

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There there was a bloke that used to, go around banging a drum. Seriously. He used to walk around London, and people gave him money. He got that. He was a multimillionaire,   but he just   liked playing his drum to an audience.   And he'd always wanted to do it. He was literally rolling in money, this bloke. Didn't do it for the money. He just did it for the love of it. It's not what he said for the interview. Why do you I've always wanted to do this. I can just  

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Do do you remember the pro team, man? I just get to me. Why are you doing I've just always wanted to do it, but Yeah. I just like I just like making a noise in public. I just love it. Thank you. It's just great.  

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Do you remember the protein, man? At at Oxford Circus?  

[02:45:02] Unknown:

Oh, yes. I do. When he was in London? Eat more protein. The world is nigh. Protein. The world has never been more nigh. Yeah. He had those round national health spectacles on and he used to wear,   like a a warehouse coat and a flat cap, didn't he? And he was a That's true. Would stalk like this and sort of in sonorous tones.   Yeah. He was marvelous. He was absolutely marvelous.   And, Eat more protein, birds, fish, and meat or something it was. That's what it said.   Yeah. On his placard. Alright. I will, I said. Thank you very much for the keen and sterling advice.   He was a lovely man.  

Yeah. Yeah. Where have they all gone to, Eric? Hey. What's happened to England? You can't walk down the high street without being bored these days. In the past, it was impossible. All these lunatics running around shouting and yelling and telling you to eat more protein.  

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Oh, lovely days. Lovely, lovely days. They remember After you said that, I was inspired to remove a chicken from my freezer.   Were you? Yes. I was inspired.  

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This is good.   Yeah.  

[02:46:05] Unknown:

I had some chicken yesterday. Your freeze and four. I mean,   did you feed it every day? I mean, because over here, our chickens have to be registered.  

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No. Do you want to hear something about usury and money anyway? Look. Stop all this chicken, Chad. Is it what's going on? We don't talk to you about it. Of hand. Do you see what I did then? Well, you ought to talk to about chickens. Watch. Know what? It's it's the very fact that jellyfish have managed to survive for over six hundred and fifty million years without brains gives hope to many people. I   Gia Starmer for one.  

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Jellyfish.   Jellyfish.   Octopuses are very bright. You know, I I like jelly and I like fish, but I don't like jellyfish.   I don't like the tentacles. It's a bad combination. But I think octopi,  

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I think, is what they call them. I don't know. They have, like, nine brains. They have one central brain and then they have one brain that controls each tentacle.   So they're they're very  

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Octopi are amazing. Yeah. There's,   there's a three part documentary series called, I don't know, The Wonderful World of the Octopus or the rather irritating or whatever it is. They're unbelievable   creatures. They're amazing.   Yes. They really are. Yeah. They've got brains all over the place.   Yeah. They can touch a rock.   They can touch a thing and through the senses in there, they can turn themselves into the color and and texture of the rock. Right. I've seen those. It's just incredible. I've seen I've seen those videos.   Just think if we could do that, hey, we could disguise ourselves as a London double decker bus, Eric. We could get away with murder, literally. We could completely hide from the deep state.  

That's it. This is we're fine. We're getting somewhere now. We need to get octopus genes into our system and then we're away. Let me play you a completely irrelevant it's actually not irrelevant clip. I'm gonna it's here and if I don't play it, I'll never play it.   It's usury via transaction fees. It's not too long, I don't think. Here we go. You then follow that through. Alright. And there's where you   Let's start at the beginning, shall we? One minute and twenty seconds.  

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This is good. This is about cash and just one of those other hidden aspects of the misery of it all. Here we go. Wish to use cash. And I tell you why it is so important that people use cash. For example, I have in front of you, you're absolutely right, a good old £50 note.   I owe you £50. Yeah. I pay you. You go to the hairdresser. You pay you £50. The hairdresser goes to the cafe, pays the coffee shop owner fifty pounds. The cafe owner goes to the restaurant, £50.   The restaurant pays for the linen cleaning, £50.   The value of the £50 remains £50.  

If, however, I pay you with a credit card straight away, I'm devaluing that £50   because   I am paying   3% on average   interest to a bank or a society that's given me that card, which is the equivalent of £1.50.   You then follow that through, and everywhere you go, the hairdresser, the hairdresser, the coffee shop, the coffee shop, the restaurant, if you're paying with a card, you're losing   1.5   per or £1.50 every time. So after 30 transactions   with cash,   you've still got £50   in value.   If you've used your credit card, the value is now   £5 because you've paid the bank £45   in fees,   and that's why the banks want to encourage you to go   AASHLESS.  

Don't allow it to happen.  

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That's bloody brilliant.  

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That's logic one zero one.  

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That's brilliant.  

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Lovely, simple stuff. Isn't that lovely, effective, simple stuff? Yeah. Oh my god. That's life  

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altering.  

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Well, that was forwarded into my group from Soldier of God. So shout out to you, Shoulder of God. Hell, yes. Shoulder, soldier of God. Brilliant.   No. It's excellent. It's absolutely excellent. This is, you know, like, when people say, well, I don't pay interest. I'm going, you don't be a daft sap. Work it out.   You paid interest whether you've got a personal loan or not. Everybody you buy from has got one is into the bank.   That's that's, you know, it's a pan that's the kind of pitch that we need.   Really simple back of a fag packet presentation. Got it? Got it. Right. Yeah. What do we do to smash the banks? Pick that wooden handle up. Let's get down there right now. Bring some matches.   It's got to be like that. It's got to be so basic that people just get it. So I think everybody get that one. It's brilliant. It's fantastic, isn't it? Absolutely brilliant. Even I understood it.  



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Bingo.  

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Woah. What a show this has been, We actually understand something. This is great.   Fantastic.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. Nice It is. Nice hypothesis you have there. It would be a shame if someone were to test it.  

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Yeah. There is that. There's absolutely that. But I it   it's this simple stuff.   So   you can imagine how funny it's gonna get if they get their digital currency. And as Catherine Austin Fitts was talking about, they become fully in charge of both monetary and fiscal   policy. Monetary being the creation of the credit and the charges and fiscal being the levying of the taxes at the at the other end. We're completely done for. The other thing that she mentioned as well with this AI stuff, of course, is that it's going away from mass marketing to individual marketing, profiling of every single individual   using all these these colossal data fields that they're building up to effectively manipulate you into a position where I suspect, although people would go, well, that's quite nice. That's convenient. It's always about convenience, isn't it? You're gonna you're gonna hit a situation where the word spontaneity   will never ever appear in the dictionary again because people won't even be able to exhibit it. They won't have a spontaneous thing. Everything will be so controlled and restricted and reduced to a perfect system.  

Of course, no such thing exists. At least that's their aim. I am assuming that's part of their aim or whatever. So   thrilling stuff. Thrilling stuff. So there's quite a few things for a personal members association to address, I think, gentlemen. You would probably agree. There's quite a few things for us to deal with here.   Yeah.  

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Right. And a guild.  

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Yeah. Well, we'll call it a guild.   The guild the guild has morphed maybe into this per you know, this private members association, but that's that's what we need is a guild. It's to protect the people that are in it   on a private basis.  

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I I made this up. Guild. Yeah. The the Broadcast Guild of Saint Dominic.  

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That's what I call it. Nice. Yeah. How did you set it up? Have you just wrote it down wrote it down on a piece of paper? I just wrote it down on a piece of paper. Yeah. I'm just I wrote it down. Out of the book. That's it. So that's yeah. So that's how we do it. We just write it down on a piece of paper and it's real. It just manifests right there and then.   So we're gonna need these things.   So maybe we need a guild of I don't know.   I was thinking maybe, you know, these, internet communication things that we're all doing and everything, it needs to be in a guild. The Guild of Private Internet Broadcasters or whatever. Right. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we should form. And then Yeah.  

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We pass on   our expertise to anybody involved in it. And, you know, one person's good at one thing and another's good at another and   consult each other when we need,   talent and   go from there.  

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Mhmm.  

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I   I   like it. That's a good idea.   It's kind of like I think I think the whole Protestant Reformation kind   of screwed us over in a way   because it used to be that you could you could buy things for a prayer. And what what do poor people have   an abundance of? The ability to pray for something.   You know, I need this. I need that. I need you know? And then there are people that can deliver those needs that have a in a surplus of goods   that would hear those prayers and be able to supply them.   There's something to that and I think we need to go back to a similar system where you have people who are out there that can can say I need this, I need this, and that. Yes.  

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I think there's another thing about prayer as well.   These things are not to be I mean, you know, I tend to view it as a as a private thing,   as a personal thing. That's that's where I think it lies but there is this gathering together   within your private members association   and although this is gonna sound soft and it is, I think it's still vital is that people need at times we all do even though it's not very manly to sort of admit it, I suspect,   but we need comforting.   What used to be provided by our mums when we were little boys and girls, that sense of   that you're everything's gonna be okay. I know it sounds soft as buggery that I say this but I think it's actually important. I think that people need a little space   momentarily,   a few minutes a week or whatever,   where there's just a sense, a glimpse as it were, that everything's calm and okay just to be at least to be reminded of it   because everything's so frenetic and mad and there's there is something   about certain   things that we used to do as a people that provide a level of comfort particularly, you know, for the poor,   for the widow,   for the orphan.  

These people need comforting. They're not in a in good shape and to bring that back into our space I think is   part of this. It's a key part of it. It's, you know, like when I was talking about the fact that in England back in the thirteen hundreds, you were never more than four miles from being looked after. That's that's part of that comfort system,   you know. Yeah. I can go to the Abbey or I can go to the Moncary   or the Monkey House, wherever the monks live. What was it called? The Monkey House They used to have purgatory societies, they called them in England before the Protestant Reformation.  

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And it was a similar type of deal.   The way I heard about it was that   a landowner that had plenty of land   would then meet someone with a flock of sheep,   and for the price of,   feeding on the,   the pasture   for the shepherd,   the landowner would ask for the shepherd to pray for his soul. And that was the exchange.   And it was   a system that worked quite well for poor people.   Yep. And and the landowner because the landowner benefited from having those animals there,   grazing and   and unwilding   the pasture  

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from all the all the stuff. It saved him more than having to clear things. Yeah. These wonderfully pragmatic understandings and lumps of knowledge, of course, are just not they weren't taught to me at school. You're so disconnected for for example, from where your food comes from.   Now we're all rightly concerned about it because this mass supposed   food delivery system   is riddled with things that are obviously making people ill.   It's also a thing where we're being attacked. So, you know, they always attack you on the food system. Oh, no. They would never do that. Well, you look at history. They've always done it. This is the number one thing. People can't eat. They're finished as an opposition to you pretty quickly. It's not difficult.  

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So this independence of of food is very much Here here we have an organization called the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration.   They're the same people that brought us the nice COVID vaccines.  

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And they were They're lovely. You know, we've never really touched on COVID, but maybe in an upcoming show, we possibly could. We've got one minute left of talking time, just under a minute. So I don't know if you've got any final few brief words, ladies and gents, that you want to say. There aren't any ladies here. Well, there are in the chat, so shout out to Ants out. I'm getting I'm getting feedback from people, and they're saying thank you for for providing them with some laughter.  

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Good. They're grateful.  

[02:58:06] Unknown:

That's great. Well done, Eric. Yeah. Eric. Yeah. Thanks, Eric. You're the only funny one here. We're all miserable as hell. We are.  

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Along that line, I said when I was born.  

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Along that line. Midwives. Twenty seconds, everybody. Well, you can talk, but the music's gonna start woah. Very certain that this is all getting quite edgy and exciting, isn't it? Eric, go quickly. I need 10.  

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No. Give give it here's your ten seconds. Go away. Let's see. Alright. Keep going. If Mexico is sending drug dealers and rapists and you're worried that they're gonna take your jobs, what in the hell do you do for a living?  

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You're right. We'll be back. Ladies and gentlemen, Eric, you didn't get a word in this week. That's it. We're finished. You're gonna have to crack the jokes next week. Eric's on Sunday somewhere.   Fockem Hall on Sunday. Yeah. On Rumble. So look out for that everyone. We'll be back again same time next week. We're gonna play you out with the new mules again. This one's called walking out one morning, and I've talked all over it and ruined it anyway. But we'll see you next week. Bye for now, everyone.  

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