In this episode of Paul English Live, we navigate through a series of technical difficulties with Rumble, which leads to a broader discussion about the challenges of modern communication platforms and the need for independent media. We delve into the historical and current significance of gold, with insights from Joseph Allain on the vast amounts of gold in the Philippines, challenging the conventional understanding of global gold reserves. The conversation also touches on the manipulation of gold and silver markets and the potential of gold-backed currencies.
We explore the concept of guilds and their historical role in safeguarding livelihoods, contrasting it with the modern economic system dominated by usury and competition. The discussion extends to the importance of community, humor, and personal interactions in enriching life, as well as the potential for restructuring political systems to better serve the people. The episode concludes with light-hearted anecdotes and reflections on the value of humor and human connection.
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Yeah. I'm taking a look around me and it's, kind of gray evening here in England but the the the weather's not so bad. It's been quite warm and I thought I'd just talk about the weather right at the beginning. Anyway, it's Paul English Live episode 84. It's always an episode around here. It's Thursday, April. Welcome to the show. And tonight's show, of course, as is every other show is for all you peasants out there. I'm a pleasant peasant. I hope you are too. And hopefully nobody famous will die during the course of this show but you never can tell. Well, hi everyone and welcome back. Hope you've had a cracking week.
It's Thursday evening and it's, we've got more of a hint of summer about it this evening because it's getting lighter and lighter with every passing day. Where are we now? April. So things have we don't know the clocks go forward. What? Five weeks ago is it? Four four or five? Four? Forty five weeks ago, something like that. And it's already nice and light and bright. My guttering fell off my house this week. You'll all be keen to know about that. I've got it actually jerry rigged at the moment. I've got this sort of funny little metal adjustable beam holding up the, rain guttering which is about 10 feet from my head right now. It's outside the studio, of course, I don't have guttering directly over the head. But, I've never done any, sort of radio about guttering and I thought now was a good time to start. How about that? Anyway, I would like to welcome into the show immediately to get on with things, the usual crew. And, I was talking earlier to Paul and Paul's still here, I think, aren't you Paul? So hello. Good afternoon to you and and welcome to welcome to the show. How are you diddling?
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Good afternoon. It it looks like we've taken this show into and back out of the gutter in in the span of a minute.
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Yeah. That's right. Good. Yeah. It's yeah. My guttering fell off. It was very exciting. My next door neighbor, actually. I mean, you you had some guttering chat, didn't you, before when you had all that snow in it and stuff like that. Mine's not anywhere near so exciting. The soffit or the fascia or whatever it is that's stuck to the side, it's been up there for quite a while and I discovered that there really isn't much of it left. The screws just can't hang on to thin air anymore. The wood's all gone. So the guttering just said bye and it was just hanging off. I went, that's that's not so good. My next door neighbor gamely tried to hold it with gaffer tape. You'd maybe you call it gorilla tape over there. Didn't work of course. Had a bit of a downpour. Very exciting.
And so I've got this I've got this really wonky thing. We we used to have this guy over here called Heath Robinson, and he did all these fantastic cartoons of these contraptions. They were sort of ridiculous machines that could never possibly work. I don't know what they were. Eric will probably don't. He can tell us about it when he comes on in a second or two. But, yeah, I've got a Heath Rob Robinson jerry rigged solution at the moment, but the actual solution is to go out this weekend and buy some wood and actually repair it properly, which I think I should be able to do if I can just remember which end of the hammer to hold. So, you know, it should be easy, shouldn't it? Why would it be difficult? Wouldn't be difficult that, would it? No. Don't think so. Eric, you know about Heath Robinson, and welcome to the show. How are you doing this? I'm assuming you're having a lovely evening over there in Fockem Hall. Yeah. Hi. Greetings. Yes. Fockem Hall Towers. I'm looking out. It's beautiful blue sky here. Yeah.
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So, yes, there's there's no, overcast at all, but it looks very, very gray towards the south. So that's where you are. So sorry about that. But, regarding timber, I would actually be prepared for the shock when you find out how much it costs now. It's gone it's through the roof with prices. So
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Through the roof? That's where my guttering is. We start start off already.
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But the good thing about tonight, we can say rude things about French people because rumble has been banned in France.
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And, What? Le rumbler
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has been burned in France. Yes. Le Rombel. Has it really been me? Yes. Well, I don't know because I actually I use a VPN, and I had it coming from The Netherlands. And for some unknown reason, it seemed to think that The Netherlands was France, and it just said the, rumble is banned, been banned by the government, the French government. So it can only be seen in in in France, you see. So So we can talk about their smelly cheese, smelly armpits, things like that. You know? Maurice Chevalier, you know, we talk about him. So and say again, you can say rude things for the car near us because they're they're bad. But now it's it's a bit so along with Bitshoot, Bitshoot is banned in Great Britain. So the French Yeah. They go one better and banned rumble in France.
[00:07:10] Unknown:
Hang on just a minute. I've got a little problem here because I've, sorry, speaking about rumble, but it looks as though we're not going through to rumble which is really weird because there shouldn't really be much of a problem with it. So if you could just type something in rumble and say can anybody hear anything because it's a bit weird. Yeah. You're actually seeing and hearing it in rumble.
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Well, I don't know because I can't I can't put the sound on because it will,
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it it No. There's nothing coming. I ain't got I ain't got a video feed on the whole thing. That's strange. Sorry about this everybody. It's called live radio and I've got the gremlins. So I'm just gonna have to stop. Am I gonna stop streaming there? What's going on? Just a minute. Let me have a look. There's something a bit wonky on. I can post and comment and chat in on Rumble. Yeah. You just find out because it says that we're connected. Oh, no. I've hit the wrong one. Hang on. I I I've got a message in. Hang on. There we go. No. Don't worry. I know it's not coming through. I pressed the wrong flaming button. Here we go. Just a minute. Oh, gosh. What a dork.
Here we go. Just hang on just a second. Just a minute. Come on, Rumble.
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It wouldn't fail. Check your key.
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No. We're connected. Browser issues.
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You know what? This is the first one for several months. So we're now connected to Rumble. Hey, everyone. Let me just have a look here. It says we're going through. I think we can blame the French. Yeah. We can. Hi, everyone in Rumble. Sorry about that. We were sending this we you missed the best part of the show as well. The first six or seven minutes, everybody on WBN were brilliant, weren't they, Eric and Paul? They were just fantastic. Well, you had a fair damage around us, didn't you? That's the reason why you didn't connect. He said, you know? Yeah.
Absolutely. No. I can see that we're live now. I can see that we're live. So, everybody on Rumble who hopefully you can now hear us, that was what's called me putting my technical trousers on the wrong way around. Good grief. How could I press the wrong button? I did. I pressed the wrong one. What a clot.
[00:09:15] Unknown:
So it's good to be here. Anyway, it's really jolly jolly good. Let me just, yeah. It's good. If you put if you put your trousers on the wrong way, how on how on earth did you button the fly?
[00:09:26] Unknown:
I know. Well, I don't know. Maybe I'm ambidextrous. Is that the right thing? Be? I don't know. Or I'm double jointed. I don't know quite what it is, Paul. Well, really, the only I'm getting awfully confused, and I'm already pretty confused to start off with. The only thing we talked about in the beginning was that it turns out that we are that Rumble is banned in France.
[00:09:46] Unknown:
So we're so we're kind of like the Amish, you know. I mean, we're banned in France. We can say terrible things about them. They'll never it'll never get back to them. Jon Panette used to say horrible things about the Amish. He didn't care. They never
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caught it. It's still not going through. It's still not going through. Right. What we're gonna do here? Let me just stop all of let me stop this again. I'm gonna I'm gonna stop to YouTube as well. We're gonna just have to stop, I'm afraid. There's nothing that I can really do about it. Let me go out, come back in again. It says that we're we're streaming fine. The signal's coming in. A bit weird. Let me have a look and let's go to rumble. Connecting. Connecting. Okay. It says connected now on rumble. Let's have a look. I don't know why it won't go through, but it just won't seem to connect. Hey, maybe I'm banned. What do you think?
Nowhere there. Hi, we're finally there. Yeah. Really weird. That was really, really weird. Let me just resume again on YouTube. Cool. And we have. So hi everybody in Rumble. We've had a few connection issues tonight. I can see that we are connected. Let me just I should be hearing us coming through. Just a minute. I don't care. You're gonna get a bit of echo here for a second but I've got to just check this. So are we coming through?
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Don't hear anything on rumble.
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Hang on. Just a minute. I think we are. I think we're coming through. Nothing coming through on rumble.
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What is going on? Let me let me Hang on. I'll mute the microphone. I'll put the sound on in rumble. Just so carry on speaking. I'll I'll I'll have a listen.
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Yeah.
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Oh, good good lord. Yeah. There there is a terrible connection issue. I'm all choppy on Rumble.
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Alright. Okay. Here's what I'm gonna do. What am I gonna do? I think I know what I'm gonna do. Just a minute. Right. Let me I'm just gonna have to stop streaming again. We're still going out on radio. So sorry about this radio listeners, but we actually double up here on the show and there's just been some strange sort of problems here. Let me just go. Where are we now? Where are we now?
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Yes.
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Dear me. What a problem. Oh, yeah. There's something really bad going on. It's a terrible connection, isn't it? Just a minute. I've just stopped it. Now then, I think I know what I've got to do, but this is gonna take a little while. So, if you two chaps could say something very interesting for the radio listeners while I just go and readjust things, Yeah. That would be great, but some things all gone a bit wonky. What's it like in America this week? Well, I I had an exciting week. I, cut my fingernails yesterday. Oh, I cut my toenails the day before. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. We're like brothers across the pond for sure. It's just I cut my toenails and actually, I think I might grab the fingernails tomorrow because I don't have a lot going on tomorrow.
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I need to find things to fill my my day. So So I guess, actually I guess if Paul expects us to say something intelligent or entertaining, he's probably barking up the wrong bloody tree.
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Am I right? Margie, there's a great joke that Warren at Arthur five zero three has come out with. Yeah. It's unfit. So if ladies and gentlemen, please put your fingers in your ears. And he said, what does a French woman put behind her ears to attract men?
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Her, her thighs or her her legs? Her feet.
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Her feet. Yes. There you go. Yes. Yes. So here we go. That's an old that's a behind the bike shed one, isn't it?
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Maybe just a little bit. That's a good thing we're not gonna be running around. Said, the choppy sound was also affecting the sound on soapbox.
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Yeah. Something weird is going on. Just a second.
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Try Rubble Studio, you see? Because that that just boots you straight out the bleeds. That's really strange.
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That's Yeah.
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But, sir, I can't hear anyone. I'm having to reset a lot of things. It's very, very strange. I mean, I haven't done anything to the settings this week at all.
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Oh, dear. We're four minutes thirty two in. So
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Well, we're not. We're fourteen minutes in. So we've got the thing going. It's an absolute this is the this is the crappiest show of them all, everybody. It's super crap so far. I'm just oh, hang on. I'll put my WBN have just emailed me and said you're fired. You're you're a joke. Oh my god. Yelled.
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I know. It's terrible. Always got a place on Global Voice Network. I'm just saying. Thanks.
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Right. Okay. Let me apply this. Let's see if this is oh, no. That's wrong. Oh, dear me. Come on. Stupid, stupid thing this is. Let me just show make sure I've got the right key. It says it's the right key. Sorry about this. I have no idea. I use a relay service that's normally solid as a rock, and it fell over. So it was a solid as solid as my fascia board, as rotten as my fascia board today. It really was.
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Don't worry. I put I put a note in some there's a technical problem. Please bear with us. Paul is trying to help you out. Okay. So we got that in there. I can I can actually put stuff in chat? So
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that's There is there is actually Thank you. Very, very, very low bandwidth between you and Rumble. I think that's the the problem where there's really super low bandwidth between me and Rumble.
[00:15:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Is Paul. You're breaking up. I'm just giving you Everything seems to be breaking up. You're very odd.
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Listen. Have you had the computer in a long time, Paul?
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Oh, I don't know. It sounds like I've got a Oh, hang on.
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Hang on. I sometimes reboot my router.
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That problems. Check this. Wow. I wonder what we sound like on soapbox. Do we sound terrible? This is really completely bombed out today. I have no idea what's going on. Sorry about this, everyone. It's nothing here at this end because all the signals that that it probably is, but everything says Sound is coming through apparently. Toot toot. Oh, I don't know. It sounds like I've got a medical. Alright. Soapbox is clean as a whistle. So that that sounds great. Okay.
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Okay. Yeah. Well, it's almost impossible to tell if we're breaking up or or not because there is a feed that's coming in that is broken up. Soapbox is now choppy. Warren,
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at Arthur says soapbox is chop is now choppy.
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Yeah. Hey. I obviously wasn't meant to do the show today or something. Very weird. Let me just have a look at what's going on. Sorry about all this. It's bizarre. It really is incredibly bizarre. So
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So far, it doesn't appear to have any audio at all. No?
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But everything's just showing. All the meters say everything's great and, but it obviously isn't, is it? So that's a bit much.
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Right. I'm not talking amongst yourselves, really. I have no idea what's happening. Desperately trying to sort a gremlin out. I'll put the message in so they know we're working on it. Thank you very much, Eric. That's great. Okay? Any messages just so I said I'll shut it through. Soapbox is sounding fabulous now.
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Yeah. I think that should be okay. So you can tell people to go and let over and listen on soapbox.
[00:18:04] Unknown:
Yeah. And use the chat and rumble.
[00:18:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Chat and rumble live but listen on soapbox until we get this straightened out. I'm gonna reboot I'm gonna just reboot OBS because maybe something has just vomited in that. Let's just redo this. We got everything coming through. It's very strange.
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Soapbox sound now okay. That's Warren has now said that. Okay. So it says get some holy water to chuck on the gremlins because I said there's gremlins that we're trying to sort out.
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Okay. I've I've now reconnected directly to rumble. So it must be something on the rumble recipient thing because
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that's
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I don't know whether it's gonna come through at all. I just don't know. I'll listen. I'll I'll mute. You speak and I'll see if I can hear you on rumble. Okay.
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Yeah. I'm checking rumble as well. Yeah. It's
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choppy as buggery, isn't it?
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Yep. Yep. It's all it's all choppy on rumble.
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Okay. Well, there's nothing much I can do. What should we do then? It's choppy.
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It appears to be choppy everywhere.
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Yeah. I don't know why. Oh, Exosis sounds better
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on Rumble.
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Alright. Okay. Cool. Well, let's carry on. I think we're gonna So I will say a prayer to Saint Anthony for you to find your lost connection. Thank you, reconciliation. That's great. I don't know if prayers are gonna help. I really, very strange. Sir Anthony is very good though. Yeah. He is. That's not too bad.
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Radio Windmiller is fine. Nancy Noonan says Radio Windmiller is fine. And Radio Soapbox should be fine, I think. Yes. And WBN should be fine. Smooth. Oh, this just sounds smooth now.
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Oh, great. Okay. Fantastic. Well, we're not going out to YouTube, but anyway, I'm not gonna cry about that. This is just I've just cut all the other connections off, and we're just going straight through to,
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channel remote is coming through, but it's still
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still cutting in and out. Please go to Radio Soapbox and listen then.
[00:20:11] Unknown:
I only have a point one to a point three megabit connection on the receive on Rumble, and it's very choppy. So I think it's a Rumble problem. I don't think it's a problem between Rumble. I think it's a problem between Rumble and us. That's Yeah. That's quite weird.
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Yeah. Yeah. This well, I've tried two different ways to get into rumble. This makes for exciting radio, doesn't it? We don't even talk to anything. Yes. Although maybe it does it. Isn't it great? Yeah. Well, this is Internet radio for you, folks. And,
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Our professionals don't try this at home.
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Yeah. I know. We're professionals and we and we don't get paid, which is the sort of professional I always wanted to be. I can just say that I'm a professional but we don't get paid. So every the signs here are good. I think there's a rumble issue going on. Hey. You know what, Eric? It might be something to do with the French thing. Maybe this is the revenge of the French. Maybe they've got Le Guillotine Internet wise running and and they're chopping around. They're having a go back. I don't know what's going on. But probably we should send them a letter. Do you want me to send them a letter?
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Sorry. To to the government? Well, I think we should send them Well, Herodotus says it's now okay on Rumble. Yes. Let me listen.
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No?
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Alright. Okay. Well, look. What what I would say is if you can hear is okay on rumble and it keeps chopping out and you want to actually hear it properly, go over to radiosoapbox.com and the stream's fine there. Okay? Radiosoapbox.com or go to paulenglishlive,uh,.com and click the WBN link to get through to WBN three two four, which is our main station for this. So they'll be shooting me tomorrow or something. But, because we're on two or three networks. But that it's really never ever a problem because the feed is just picked up by the other networks. And there doesn't appear to be anything really wrong with this. So there we go. There you go. That's really good. So Mark Anthony says he switched over to Radio Soapbox, which is coming through loud and clear.
So there we go. I don't know what else to say, really. Is the Soapbox slippery, though? Of course. Gosh. That's a rather rude and vulgar question for a Thursday evening. I don't think we ought to answer that. Anyway, should we talk about something interesting now as opposed to all this technical stuff? Do you know do you know the difference between
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sorry. Carry on. Yeah. No. No. I wasn't sure if you say anything. A girl coming out of church and a girl getting out of the bath.
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Tell me, Eric. What is the difference between a girl coming out of church and a girl coming out of a bath?
[00:22:49] Unknown:
A girl coming out of church has her soul full of hope. Okay. Right.
[00:22:57] Unknown:
Okay. Well, if we didn't have technical problems, we've now got problems with the sensors. And I'm for the high jump.
[00:23:03] Unknown:
Yes. Well This is terrible. I almost yeah. I've had problems with rumble as well because I cannot download the show we did on Sunday. It just won't let me download it. So I can put it so I can't put it anywhere else. I can't get a a spare copy just in case something goes wrong. It just won't let me download and I don't know what's going on. It's weird.
[00:23:25] Unknown:
Well, I have to say this is really rather an odd thing because the first time I ever had the Rumble, grumble on us, technically. It's never actually it's been fault free. So this is show 84. Never had a problem with Rumble ever. I don't think I mean, any problems that we've had prior to this have been caused by yours truly, you know, by me being having a bit too much rum prior to the show or something like that or not enough.
[00:23:50] Unknown:
But today is just a bit weird. So we're coming from two different yeah. Hang on. I've just looked it up. It says Rumble, the video platform, may experience technical difficulties like outages or app issues. For Right. Right now. Craft rumble yeah. War common problems include connection issues, app crashes, and sound problems. If encountering issues with Warcraft rumble, check the Blizzard whatever it is Twitter for service. Now that doesn't really apply to us. Clearing the cache data or uninstalling and reinstalling the oh, no. It's all about gaming. Sorry.
[00:24:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Don't worry about that. It's okay. It's just whatever it is, there's some kind of network error or there's some network outage going to rumble today and it's not so happy. It's not so happy about everything. So there we go. Well, it says here,
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down detector says there are no current problems rumble.
[00:24:41] Unknown:
Well, they're lying, aren't they? Yeah. I am checking rumble right now and the stream appears to be solid.
[00:24:49] Unknown:
Good. Okay. Fantastic. Right. So, twenty four minutes in and the show's a complete mess and, it's enough to make anybody want to go and have a large stiff drink. Unfortunately, I haven't got any large stiff drinks in the house. So I'm actually having to make do with radio broadcasting water, which is my usual thing. I don't know what you guys have got. But there we go. Now, should we talk about something intelligent? Because we've got a little bit of time left to do that. So, yeah. I I think there's gonna be there's definitely something wrong with it because the audience on Rumble's going up and down. It's it's it's it's the sort of audience we get right at the start, so I don't think anybody can listen to it really, unfortunately.
So, you know, it's basically tune in to Radio Soapbox really or WBN. Tune in to WBN or radio. I'm just typing something in because this is a pain in the bum, this stuff. Sorry about this. This is, our greatest major outage ever. I'm quite pleased about that really.
[00:25:53] Unknown:
Well, Patrick has said rumble sucks. Yes. I agree with him there. Yes. Did he say that? No. That is funny. Have you thought of actually going over to Odyssey? Because Odyssey seems to be pretty good, actually.
[00:26:06] Unknown:
Well, actually, I'm gonna mention something here right now. So the timing of this is possibly pretty good. Look, the feed to WBN and the feed to Radio Soapbox and the feed to Radio Windmill will all be good, because I know that they're all good. And I've listened to them, and they're sounding great. So if you wanna listen to the show, I know it's not the same as looking at the still picture. Although, you know, we don't use webcams here. So we're basically using Rumble as an audio platform because we get the chat. Of course, we're not really using it very well at all this evening because it's giving us a little bit of jib, which we're not too happy about, but there's not too much we can do about it either. So you can listen to it at Radio Soapbox or WBN, but you can carry on doing the chat here in in Rumble. This, of course, will not be taken up by hardly anybody, but I'm just letting you know.
[00:26:52] Unknown:
Rumble has made you humble. It has Oh. Oh, I feel And also, you got a new radio one because you've got it for old age pensioners because it's 0apbox.com. That's a new one. So you gotta listen to that. So do you have to have a bus pass to listen to that or something? 0apbox.com? Sorry. Yeah. It's
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spelled that's correct. Well, I might as well mention here that, did I mention it the other week anyway? I've been playing around with our own video platform. I don't know why I'm doing this. I'm gonna need time to do it, but but actually, no. It might be a good idea. We've got our own we've got our own video server, which sounds awfully grand. There's a thing out there called PeerTube, which is French. Can you believe it? So no wonder oh, the French and rumble. That's what it's all about. It's actually very good. So we just I I can't actually tell everybody to go over there because it'll probably fall over. I think it's only a tiny little test server, but so far, touch wood, it's been working okay.
It's not really gonna help us expand the audience here too much because that's the reason for being on platforms to some degree like Rumble and YouTube so that we can hopefully attract gazillions of new people into this space to learn about peasants and gold and things like this or whatever we're talking about that week. But if we do a few more tests, we might well set that up. He's got live chat in it as well, which is the most important thing. So, but we we can't just open the gates up right now because I think it'd just be as bad as this today or everything will fall over, which is a bit of a pain. But, because this has happened, maybe this is a sign from the Internet gods telling me that we've got to clear out of here and go somewhere else, which I'm slightly loathed to do because it's I I don't really dislike rumble too much.
Not that, I necessarily expect it to be nice to us forever in a day, but there we go. So, right. Anyway, there we go. Half an hour in. Now today's show is, entitled and these titles don't mean much. I keep saying this all the time because we talk about everything here. But it's it's entitled Guilds, Golden Peasants, because I quite wanted to call it that really. And now what what did we have on last week? Oh, it doesn't really matter. One of the things I've been talking about as a little theme in the background over the last few weeks is this book by Hilaire Belloc, The Crisis of Civilization. You'll be thrilled to know that I finished it of over the weekend. I'm reading about five books at once, but I finished this one. I I really like reading Belloc just because the way he writes, it's sort of an old fashioned type of language. Towards the end, there's something quite interesting. It's about reaching audiences, which is quite ironic seeing as how we're not reaching anybody tonight for, for technical purposes.
But, he's talking about the corrective measures that that would be required to return the organization of civilization back to some resemblance of an ethical and moral moral culture, which, I'm kinda keen on too because, I think it would be good in in so many ways. That's a trite thing to say, but I do without going into so much detail. And, in one towards the end, he starts talking about how to get the word out, something, of course, that we're slightly failing to do this evening as I've just mentioned a moment ago. But he talks about newspapers. It's very interesting.
He's of the view I mean, he's writing this about 1920, I think it is, something like that. He's of the view that a weekly newspaper is absolutely vital but it you must expect to lose money on it all the time. It's very interesting. This, this conundrum, this problem of trying to get new information or create a new space, and to get it out to a larger number of people basically means you're gonna have to get your hand in what's left of your pocket, or someone is. And so he's talking about he said basically that entire approach is has to be subsidized. And it looks as though they always were subsidized and possibly they all still are subsidized to some degree, which I found quite interesting to thinking that that problem was around all the way back then. He also mentions, I think we've discussed this in general terms as well, advertising.
He said you can't be reliant on advertising because at some point, I'm paraphrasing here, you'll basically be you'll be held over a barrel by the advertisers, which of course is how of course. Right? So I know I'm only restating really simple things here. But the actual dynamic, although the technology is different, hasn't really changed. So his observations over those last four or five pages are brilliant. They're really very very good. He then talks about the book as opposed to the newspaper. He talks about the book as opposed to the and he said the reason, you need a weekly newspaper is it's needed to have that thing about news, that it's a different type of reader.
He says I'll just read a little bit. He says, now the appeal of print, which he says is an unsatisfactory medium, but, you know, we gotta use it. The appeal of print falls into two very different groups. First, there's the appeal of the book. There is next the appeal of the ephemeral press, the daily papers, the magazines, and reviews. And, he goes on to basically analyze why you need a weekly newspaper, for all sorts of reasons because people expect a certain sort of immediacy with what's in there, which is true. And then he starts talking about the book, which is quite interesting because it's it's almost like it's a different type of reader and I think it possibly is.
So, I don't know where I'm going with this by the way. I just want to submit I just wanted to mention it, really. What is it you go on. Yeah. Paul. Sorry. I think last I think last week's show is kind of,
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bleeding over into this week's show a little bit because the topic was the mystery of the missing respeech. And I think that's what we've got going on. They were, they were censoring BitChute last week. Now Rumble is having problems. They're censored in France. And it's part of this, plan to take the existing platforms where somebody actually could build an audience rather quickly and get the word out and they're causing problems with the existing platforms, forcing people to segregate and build off smaller platforms which would be endless hurdles building an audience on something that obviously doesn't exist yet because it's because it's just been created.
And I'm thinking that that it's all by design. I'm I'm really thinking that it's gotta be part of the plan. Let's, let's interfere with their ability to communicate, right down to the cell phones. I mean, I cannot tell you how many people that I know that have had problems with their cell phones lately, and I just started having problems with them now, today. Yeah. My phone Mhmm. Is, like, taking forever to do anything. It's almost like it's completely plugged up, and there's no resources left whatsoever. But if I look at the phone, there's plenty of memory left and there's plenty of space left, but yet the phone is behaving like a total dog.
It is just interference with communication and being able to get together. We've got to get radio, servers. We've got to get streaming servers, and we've got to get our own video platform and a secure VPN means of connecting to those platforms so they cannot be interfered with, they cannot be censored, and they cannot be monitored. We've got to do it. Mhmm.
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Yes, ma'am. I think we do. I think I think we kind of do. Yeah. I mean, I I, I think we do. It's never been, more, vital that we get on with this kind of stuff. And it has been a sort of setback with all these things. I mean, every it does come down to that thing that everything that's free, you're the product. And this the control of the ad I mean, I I don't know whether to believe any of the stats that I see about anything that we do. This is the real problem. You know, it's, it it just is a problem. Maybe what I'll do is from now on in in fact, if we can get this setup thing running for next week, maybe we'll just do it. And what I'll do here on Rumble is I'll advertise the show on Rumble, but it'll tell you where to go. I don't mean that offensively, of course. It'll literally give you the URL, the address where you're supposed to, you know, jump on over to. There's no point you're going there right now because I can't stream to it for all sorts of reasons. It's not possible. But maybe next Thursday, we will do that and see if we can build up a, an audience there. I'm kind of anyway, I don't know what to say about it really.
I've got d live lined up as well. That probably would work okay. But you see, the thing is as listeners and regular sort of you get used, we all do, we get accustomed right now to turning up at Rumble. It's already ingrained in the behavior patterns. These things are so difficult to shake out. The more you the longer you've been doing a thing, the more you resent having to change. Everybody grumbles all the time. I do understand it. I'm exactly the same. So changing things, you go, good grief. This is gonna be quite it's quite a challenge, you know, because it appears to be a small thing but it's not actually. It's to do with these ingrained those ingrained patterns. But, I mean, everybody would be thrilled to know that on the advertising revenue side for Rumble, I've earned an enormous $53.
I I daren't take it. I'm so excited about it. Over for the course of the entire 83 shows, I mean, we don't solicit around here for for donations or please send me a free Rolls Royce. Although, maybe I should start to solicit for that, because every man should have a Rolls Royce at least once in his life. Shouldn't he, Eric? You've got a couple over there at Fockham Hall, don't you? Oh, yes. There he is. Yes. Yeah.
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There's nothing like a Rolls Royce, is there? You know? I mean, No. Trouble is, I I I I think that's about three miles to the gallon or something, don't they? Or do they do, three gallons to the mile? I'm not quite sure, but I know it's like driving a tank. Yeah. Because I think, the American tanks, what is it? The the famous one, that does something like five miles to the gallon. Seriously. Yes. So Yeah. So, but I know Rolls Royce is I think you'd be lucky if you get about 15 to the gallon. Is that they're very, very thirsty machines. And I don't think they're quite what they cracked up to to be because, did you know that most of the sayings about Rolls Royce that they used to have them in their showrooms without oil trays because, you know, the precision engineering was a load of, bovine excrements.
They used to actually empty the oil out, then push the car in the showroom just so that it couldn't get the oil dripping on the showroom floor. And a lot they had very good PR people. P Rolls Royces are not that good. I know because I work with a bloke who had one. He had nothing but trouble with it. So that's it. So then not that good. Even the best ones were bristles or Bentleys.
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Oh, the bristles were nice. Well, sorry. I just realized what I just said. Yeah. So I do like bristles.
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Nothing like bristles, you know.
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I'm a bristles. Myself. Oh, what have I done? I've opened the portals to hell. So Yes.
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Well, there's nothing wrong with that. What I've just said, you know? I mean, what's wrong with being a Bristol man? You know? You like Bristol cars. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, they're they're grand. They're very well
[00:38:27] Unknown:
I was gonna say screwed together, but this is all getting a little bit double entendre ish, a bit too far. XO's already spent my $50. Thanks, XO. He says, g and t's on Paul with that 50 doll. How many would that buy? If you go into a pub these days, what's a gin and tonic? £8? 10 quid, is it? It's sort of some nuts price. I was it is. It's mad. It's mad. So that's only for so I'll be able to buy three if I wanted one, I'd be able to buy three other people a gin and tonic. It's not so much of a party, is it? But still No. There we go.
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Yeah. That's alright. Anyway You know? It's alright. It's not it's it's only been sniffed, you know, is it really when you come to think about it? You know, was it 50 Mhmm. How many dollars? 50 3 dollars was it? That's about $40.40 notes, isn't it? This is of this is of eighty four weeks, Eric. Oh.
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I mean, look. I'm not moaning because I don't do anything about it. I've no idea how all this stuff works. I mean, I could find out, you know. I've I've just turned into one of these sorts of communication oaths where we never bother to sort of promote certain things. We've got to really get that sorted out. And, I'm I'm hoping to to some degree. But, yeah. I have no way of really knowing. I have no way of really knowing. And I think also the other thing was, and I I'm trembling about this too. I I nearly bought a webcam the other day and I'm still not decided about whether I should do it or not. It seems to me that everybody wants to see everybody else. They want to watch people talking.
So there you go. Yeah. But it wouldn't have been a very edifying site tonight. It wouldn't have been a very edifying site tonight. I can tell you what with me frothing at the gills and all this sort of technical brouhaha going on. Notice how I slipped some French in there. But, yeah. So, You can tell I'm a bit thrown. Now then, what was I gonna talk about tonight? Oh, yeah. Okay. So look, that free press thing is kind of important. It it it is. And, designing thing you know, books I I remember I think the CIA view the book as being the most powerful conditioning agent you can still have, and I can kind of understand it. It goes through to people who obviously can sit down and read books. This sounds awfully patronizing. Everybody can read, but how many people sit down and sort of read a book?
I I suspect it's not as many unless it's sort of some smutty Jackie Collins thing or the latest Harry Potter chapter 395 or whatever it is. And I'm not knocking Harry Potter, by the way. I think they're good fun. Yes, I know we can talk all about the other influences of them and it's probably true. But, still, that kind of stuff, you know, I I don't know what it is with book reading. I like it. But then I have to say for the last few years I I wasn't reading at all. It's it's only something I've just got jumped back into again with a bit of a vengeance actually, which I'm enjoying tremendously.
So there was that. And then, okay. So we talked about free press and the other, the words in this week's title are peasants. Well, I think that's self explanatory. We're all a bunch of pleasant peasants. And the the goal is to become free peasants as opposed to slaves or serfs. And, of course, they're seeking to push us in the direction of becoming serfs next. Then back to good old slavery, which is really what they're after. One of the things that, Belloc talks about a great deal, which is a bit rarefied and odd and possibly, I don't know quite how this would be achieved, is guilds, which is in today's title. Guilds and these were, tremendous structures actually. If you, you know, if you get a bit of time after the show or even during it because you're getting sick of the rumble technicals or whatever, if you go and do a quick search on Guilds and look at the extent to which they were totally spread across Europe. And what they did is that they safeguarded the welfare, the livelihood of people. That's the word I was looking for. They safeguarded the livelihood of all the members of the guilds. And it's an extremely sophisticated approach, actually.
It's not without intelligence at all. In fact, it's a highly intelligent structure really well well put together. And I know we touched on this in some of the previous shows about craftsmen being protected, but it was to stop excessive competition. And, one of the things that he's talking about, and I'm tapping back into comments as well made previously, is once that reformation thing happened over here in England, and the more I read about it, the more I realize what a massive event it was. It's it's much bigger, I think, than just a date in your history chronology.
It's it's way way bigger than that. It really ushered in what we would call the modern progressive age. It didn't know it was necessarily doing that, and it wasn't necessarily a conscious thing, but it was like the starting gun for the unleashing of things. And, competition began to build up. And as this as these guilds fell away over the next couple of hundred years, which they did, basically, you get the arrival of of the return back to serfs because they can't the people working in whatever they were couldn't own stuff. And if you can't have property, you you are basically gonna be bullied by the market. And I'm gonna suggest that that's exactly the condition that most of us are in right now. No matter how sophisticated your workload may be or how intelligent you may be, say, a computer programmer or whatever you're doing, most people are still reliant upon a wage. And as we've mentioned here before, again, how are people supposed to buy houses to own something? And then when you even look into that, you find out that the land registry and all this other stuff tells you that you don't really own it anyway because the Crown, which is not the monarchy, but the Crown corporation owns it, which of course leaves people foundationless and sort of rudderless in the way that they want to manage their lives. You can't plan.
You can't financially plan and, I think I mentioned it last week. This is obviously, a modern sort of example of this is Starmer recently meeting with the Black Rock people who are sort of buying all the farms up over here. That kind of thing. Yeah. That pregnant pause was good, wasn't it? Yes. Yes. Well, Keir Starmer, I mean,
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I didn't hear it myself, but I was told by a neighbor that he was backing Saint George's day. Well, Keir Starmer, if he found that, the trend is to stick your finger in your ear, he would stick his finger in his ear because he took the knee, didn't he, a couple of years back. The the he is, to me, a soulless robot who does what he's programmed to do. So if he's programmed to say, you know, pull your trousers down and jump up and down, while singing punk rock, he'll do it. He's he's just a soulless nothing. Because when you look at his eyes, there's nothing there. He's got no soul. He's got nothing.
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So why It's interesting him running around talking about the patron saint of England when he's a Scot. Is he? Which is he's a Scot, isn't he, Keir Starmer?
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I don't know. I thought he was English.
[00:45:36] Unknown:
I didn't know he's Scottish. No. We don't want him. Are you sure? Yeah. Is it me? Am I mad? Have I gone mad? I thought he was a Scott. Oh. Keir Starmer. He's British, whatever that might mean. Oh, he's born in Southwark London. Good grief. I'm mad. I'm completely unhinged. It's me. I'm completely bonkers. Why did I think he was a Scot? Oh, he's even more repellent now, isn't he? Because I I wonder why the Scots were having a go at him. It's because he's not Scottish. Sorry. Sorry, Scottish people. If I've offended you, and I probably have, I didn't mean to. Why? I think it's the name Kier. Why did I I just assumed something, and I'm a Burke. So he was born he was born in Southwark in London, September 1962.
What a sad day that was for all of us. Yes.
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Yeah. Good grief. Yeah. Do you think about it? If you could go back in time and you could you could give his father a condom, you would have never have had Keir Starmer now, would you? So that's that you know what I mean? There's an old saying. Was it I never used to believe in birth control until I met Keir Starmer. Yeah.
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There you go. Well, there
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you go. I well, any of the controlled opposition,
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they will basically jump up and down. They will do whatever they are told to do. They are mindless, soulless robots, exactly as Eric had said. And, Saturday Night Live, even did, they did a sketch that only made it through the dress rehearsal, but it never actually made it on air. And it was, senate confirmation hearings. And one of the questions that they asked, the one that was being, confirmed was, would you perform fellatio on a donkey if it, ensured the security of the nation of Israel? The guy said no. But everybody else there, everybody else on the senate panel said, oh, well, I'd do that in a second for
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Israel. Oh, dear. Poor donkey.
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It it is it is out there. It is on YouTube. Look for it quickly before they they they come to their senses and scrub it, but it is out there. It's hilariously funny, but we obviously cannot play it on this show.
[00:48:12] Unknown:
No. No. We can't do that. We can't play that on this show. I've got I've got a clip about gold. I don't know whether to play this hour or the beginning of the second hour. We've got about twelve minutes to go. It's probably better if we do it in the second hour really, because, just a series of little threads have sort of came into my space over a few days. As you can possibly tell, I've had barely any prep time for this show this week for reasons which I can't really go into the I just can't. So I don't want to anyway. It's just silly. But, the technical thing seems to be in line with that as well as well. I'm sat here really with very little material this week apart from the books that I've been reading, which is why, of course, I was still tapping into that thing, you know, this this thing with Belloc.
I also, it turns out I've got practically everything good that he's written. I didn't realize that I did. There's another book called Essays of a Catholic, which, of course, probably worries a lot of listeners here. If you can just sort of put your charge aside about the word Catholic because it's worth do it's really worth doing it. It's it's probably not in the sense that you think of it. And, there's a great analysis in one of his essays about England and England's relationship to Catholicism, which is quite unique in a way because he's talking about the fact that most people in England are barely even aware that it exists, and I think this is true. I think I've mentioned here before that when I was young, I didn't even know that it what it was. I had no idea, until we went to another scout group that happened to be a a Catholic scout group. And I realized that there was something very different about the sort of design of the church and all these sorts of things. This is when I was about 11, and I hated the smell of incense, and it made me very ill. And I had to get out of the church. Literally, I just I couldn't abide it. These are very trite things that I'm mentioning. What Belloc's really talking about is the fact of Christendom effectively being united by these moral and ethical standards laid by down by the church until it started to go pear shaped towards the back end of the thirteen hundreds, which is what it did.
And then it unleashed all this stuff. But his analysis of things like competition, usury are worth reading. I can't recommend it highly enough, Eric. He's done a short essay on usury. He's written a book called Helen, Economics for Helen, which is fantastic. There's another one called The Restoration of Property. And it's a matter of going through these things and getting clear about what he means by all this stuff. And there are there's not an infinite number of components, but when they're absent, you end up in the situation that we're in right now.
And it turns out that we are proles. We really are the proletariat, because we don't we've got no foundation to our lives. We can be pushed around literally. We don't own anything to stave off outside sort of interference. And one of the things he points out is that a rising increasing proletariat is a very dangerous thing. Not because the proles are just gonna kick off, but because it actually breeds a kind of madness throughout the whole of the civilization what's left of it. Whereas the guild system, which is what he talks about at great length, is really quite fantastic in a way. And, of course, it taps into we'd still have an echo of that today with things called apprenticeships, which they keep saying they're gonna boost back up. And they're brilliant things really are apprenticeships.
Because I think back in the day, you would start one when you were 12. We're talking like, you know, the Middle Ages. You'd start it your father would take you along say to a goldsmith or a barrel maker or a cobbler or whatever it is. You join the guild of bootmakers or because there were just guilds everywhere and you would spend the next seven years studying under, the guy, the master as it were, and then he would sign your papers off and say, right, you're fit to go off on your own. You're a journeyman then. You can go anywhere you like and go and join another guild of the similar professions in a different part of the country. And you would do the same thing there and of course you had standing because you had this skill set and and everybody was keen to get one. So it's a long apprenticeship but, maybe this is why some of those things from that period are still around to this day because they were so bloody well made. I don't know.
How you would reinstitute that today is very difficult to see. I think the mere mention of the word guild is enough to confuse people almost straight away. And yet when you look into it, it makes complete sense in in terms of, putting that foundation back into people's lives and creating a kind of barrier so that you can't get pushed around. And unleashed competition is really why we've been chewed up, and it goes hand in hand with usury. And then, yeah, and then he talks about the banking system. Paul. Yeah. There is one guild that survived.
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There's one guild that survived and it is the private bar guild, and that guild has been the weaponized tool that has, pillaged the people Mhmm. In every court around the world because the private bar guild deals with their own private rule private rules of law and rules of procedure. They have nothing to do with common law or even the even the civil law, is in fact much of the the rules that they have are highly uncivilized because they all seem to be focused on, guilt before innocence, you know, where, you know, they say, well, you should be innocent until proven guilty. No. You're presumed guilty and you're expected to liquidate your entire family's wealth just to defend yourself from these thieves Mhmm. Thieves and reprobates.
And and I and I mean reprobate in the most unloving way. And that is one guild that has survived and it has been a weapon, a unified weapon against the people, the sovereign people. So Mhmm. That one needs to be unwound. Perhaps if we had enough guilds of our own, we could, present a unified front against the private bar guild and actually get some justice someday instead of it being just us by just them.
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Yeah. Oh. Well, maybe we need a guild of web streamers
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or something. I don't know. Yeah. What we need is to put all of them in a gilded cage.
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I mean, it's it's a very interest it's a it's almost an alien idea to introduce because we've all become accustomed to living in the modern world. And the modern world basically says it's up to everybody to compete with everybody else. And if you compete better, you'll you'll do better. This has cost more bunk. It's just No. It is. You can't do that. It's bunk. You can't do it. It absolutely is bunk because
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if you actually get into a position where it looks like you're going to succeed, they knock you down.
[00:55:28] Unknown:
Well, they do. They do. I think I've I mentioned, you know, there was this period in The States in the eighteen hundreds after the civil war where things were thriving in an immense way. And the amount of actual wealth, I. E. Stuff, which is really what wealth is, that's all it is. You know, the money is tokens to get some stuff. The amount of stuff that was being made was growing exponentially. It was huge. And because they didn't have, a lending culture the way that we've allowed it to become or that has been imposed upon us by subtle and gradual degree over the last century and a half particularly. You had this situation, and I think I've trotted this example out before, that people wanting to expand their manufacturing centers, say it was the makers of boots or I don't know. Whatever it was. Right?
Normally today, in fact, absolutely today, they have to go to a bank and borrow money at interest to fund the development the building costs of their new production center, whatever it may be. That's what they do. But in your neck of the woods after the civil war, that wasn't happening because they were making they were actually making genuine profits from real trade with people really buying the stuff, not on tick or on credit, but just buying it. That when they came to building a new factory, they had enough savings or surplus revenues put by to be able to do that. Now this whole thing about taxation is basically, as we know, a massive control system. I mean, you know, may we will have all heard people say, well, they're they're in it because they want all the money.
Well, sort of, but that's a stepping stone. What they're really after is all the control. And it's that old ad you know, we've mentioned this one before. It's not so much that they have to succeed. You must also fail. Right. This is absolutely a key part of it. You must fail. And people, you know, the the knock on effect of this, charging of interest on loans on money that's created out of thin air is just unreal. And, why are you supposed to even bother listening to economic reports? They're insane when you think about it. They're not sane. It's an engineer that started to build engines using the same principles. None of the engines would ever work ever.
They'd be just a joke. They literally couldn't prove themselves in the real world. It's the only sort of area of human discipline that's literally warped to buggery. And, because it affects everything in a negative way, you know, you're either on the side of the patrician creditor class and the usury side or you're a victim of it. We literally are I mean, I hate using that word but it's true. And all this sort of, you know, the American dream now is finished because of usury. Finished a long time ago, I would suggest. I'm not saying that people can't come along and do good stuff from time to time, but we know that all these look at what happened with the net stuff. There were loads of amazing little gadgets and gizmos and software ideas and things that came up. They've all been bought up by the usual incumbents.
I mean, we've talked about Microsoft bought Skypup, didn't they? They've run it for fifteen years and done nothing to it. Now they've thrown it in the bin. Why? It's great. It really worked, you know. No one really needed it to be changed. Yet again, we'd all become creatures of habit. And they've replaced it with Teams, which is not bad, I suppose. But it's got the Microsoft stuff all over it and you know that the only reason Microsoft is so or the primary reason that they're so, powerful in the marketplace is because their relationship with the banks want them to be.
They absolutely want them to be. The and this is the secondary thing or another aspect of it is, you know, if you've got a company, an established company in a line of business that owe that's turning over a lot and owes the bank a lot, The bank is extremely careful with that client. It's very important. They've got a lot of sort of risk with it. If a competitor comes along and starts eating into that market of this established client they've got, Often, the established client this is how it used to happen. It would say, I want you to stop lending money to Joe Smith down the road because he's eating into my business. And if that happens, I won't be able to pay you the hundred million dollars I owe you. So they will then stop extending loans to the new competitor on the block and it'll go under. At which point, the the major player then steps in and buys it up for a pen on the for pennies on the pound or cents on the dollar, you know, that kind of stuff. And this stuff goes on a lot.
[01:00:05] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Excuse me. The best way to have an enterprise and to keep it functional is to express a, vision or a an air of poverty. Configure that business and conduct your life just so it appears that you're just this side of bankruptcy. So you're completely, so you could go under at any moment. They don't know you have a million pounds or a million dollars, assaulted away or hidden off someplace so when they attack you, you can fight back. But you don't become a threat. They don't attempt to take you out because, well, we're not gonna bother with him. He's nothing. He's he's, like lint in my pocket or up on my shoe. Yeah.
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It's the only way you can find it. Where AI I think this is where AI is a major concern, actually, in this realm because and this thing over here that they've got called universal credit, these are basically data gathering exercises, the sort of forms. I was speaking to my sister the other day about something she had to fill out with the Department of Works and Pensions, the DWP, for things because, her husband's unwell and this, that, and the other, and you get certain entitlements. Right? Fine. Okay. But it took her three days to fill the form out. Now maybe she's a bit slow. I don't think so. You see these things, they go on and on and on. They want you to reveal more and more stuff. They interlock it all together and it's it is literally the case that you will not be able to do anything if they go to full blown digital currency. But that said, we're at the end we're just over the end of the first hour. So we're gonna take a little bit of respite from what's been a rather mayhemical, if there is such a word and there is now because I just made it up, of an hour of technical mayhem or certainly the first twenty minutes. I see that things appear to have settled down on Rumble, so welcome. I think our audio feed is now finally good, but we had a lot of problems. Not at our end, but I think there was a a Rumble glitch going on. So our apologies for that even though it wasn't really our fault. Let's play a song by Leo Kotke called Standing in My Shoes, because I want to play it.
And we'll be back after this song and a little break stuff. See you in
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a few minutes. Like a stone on the wall. I can't help but see that another man's love is mourning you It's twice that price you've already paid.
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Thank you indeed, and thank you for staying with us during a rather technically difficult first half hour there. We seem to have settled down a little bit now as slowpoke English types. And, welcome back to hour two. Patrick, welcome into the studio. How are you doing this fine day, sir?
[01:07:18] Unknown:
Quite well. I see you had some problems. That doesn't surprise me given rumbles and, you know, history, on Eric's show especially. And it seems like you get to that second or third hour and it just cuts out, but,
[01:07:34] Unknown:
too bad. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. I think it's I think it's the French revolution. The French have have banned rumble. There's something on slightly. Maybe they've been restructuring things or something, but that that was certainly Well, they're trying to get us to use peer tube. Peer tube's a French thing. Yeah. I know. Well, at least it's independent, At least we've got our own thing. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe the French are gonna come to the rescue again. Who knows? Yeah. It's a it's a French thing. Do we? We don't mind French things, do we? Do we mind French things? I don't know.
Yeah. So maybe we'll, anyway, gold. You want to talk a bit a bit about gold? We should maybe talk a little bit about gold. People get quite giddy about gold. There you go. The what is it now? What's gold at now? It was over $3, I think, per ounce. 3,000 lovely American crisp, juicy, chunky dollars. Amazing. Fantastic. Of course, the the the problem with that, or the way to think about it, which is very difficult to think about it because we measure everything, don't we, in fiat currencies. That's how we kind of gauge the price of a thing because we've got all these labels everywhere, is that, the US dollar is now worth less vis a vis gold. You need a lot more dollars to get an ounce of gold. 3,340.
3 thousand 3 hundred and 40 lovely dollars. That's amazing. That's out of anybody any 3,000 Anyone here got any gold?
[01:09:04] Unknown:
I got some back in the day, back when it was cheap back I think it was in February, '2 thousand '1. And it was Yep. One ounce per I think it was $270.
[01:09:18] Unknown:
It was. It was. It was. I think I mentioned here that I ended up using the Sunshine Mint in Idaho to actually make my own gold coins back then. 02/2004, '2 thousand '5. Yeah. So 04/05/4540 that kind of thing. Yeah. Seriously. So there's a mint up in Idaho, everybody. You might wanna go and let you call the Sunshine Mint. You get your own gold coins made if you know what you're doing and I did back then. It was a desperate attempt to try and mobilize gold. And I think I've mentioned here before, there's a wonderful chap who ran a thing called the American Monetary Institute. I think it was an institute that he set up himself, highly qualified, on your side of the pond, guys. Stephen Zahlanger, he's no longer alive.
I had a whole series of conversations with him probably about fifteen years ago, 02/1011, that kind of time, about gold and about fiat currency and and this, that, and the other. It comes down, I think, to one basic thing. What he said was he said, that money is a creature of law. And I think it is because someone has to say, well, this is the standards by which we're gonna buy and sell goods. We're gonna use this. And we all have to agree upon it. I think the question is is whose law? And currently, it's the law of men and the law of the usurers, and this is not a very good law.
There's no real reason why gold couldn't be used. Of course, the argument that's been put forward that you why you can't use gold is I don't have the exact figure in my head, although it might be in this clip that I'm about to play, or this extract from a longish interview from last week that I was listening to earlier earlier this week. I think the amount quoted is something like about a 20,000 tons. This is supposed to be the total amount of gold ever mined, ever above ground in the whole of recorded human history according to the people that tell you these things.
So the good question is, can we trust them? Can you can you trust them when they say that this is the amount of gold in the world? I don't think you can. Conrad is it Conrad Adenauer? He went on to become the head of Austria, didn't he? He was, I'm pretty sure it was him. He I remember seeing some documents courtesy of his work, indicating that there was quite a bit more than that. Quite a bit more. Anyway, there's a chap out there called Joseph Allain, a double l a I n. And the website of the organization that he heads up is globalgoldmf.com. I'll type it in the in the chat when I start playing the clip, momentarily.
And he's a very, certainly the way he comes across in this is an interview he did with Sarah Westall, not that I follow Sarah Westall. Some of you may be familiar with her. Talking about gold and The Philippines and, the history of The Philippines and gold is, of tremendous interest actually. A few months ago, I'm sure I mentioned a chap called David Gayat, who I've unfortunately not been able to make contact with. I was trying to get in touch with him through, Nexus magazine where he wrote a whole series of articles and he still has a website up or there is a website still up, I don't know whether it's fully operational, called deepblacklies.co.uk.
Deep black lies Co U k. And it's to do with many aspects of gold and the finance industry because he used to be in it or used to be in the city or certainly in sort of merchant banking here in London in the nineties. And, in potted form, although there's more to it than just this aspect, The Philippines, those of you who were around or have even aware of it, in the nineteen seventies in The States particularly, we used to get these news casts over here as well. There was a lot of reporting about Ferdinand Marcos and his wife Imelda.
Imelda is the woman who was noted for having a lot of shoes. Do you remember her, guys? Do you remember her? Never heard of her. Oh, no. No? They had 200 pairs, something like that? 300 pair? 200 pairs of shoes. Or was it forty, forty five pairs? I I can't remember when it was. About forty, forty five pairs of shoes. Something like that. Yeah. There were a lot of shoes. Yeah. They're a lot. They made a lot of things. You still there, Eric?
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Is Eric there? How many shoes did Imelda Marcos have? We need the exact number.
[01:14:03] Unknown:
He's running quite Hey. He's Are you are you counting them, Eric? What's he doing? He's probably wearing a few of her. Anyway, they were lovely shoes. It's a very weird thing to report on, isn't it? But The Philippines came up prominently and I can't remember if any US Presidents went there. There seemed to be a lot of energy and stuff around The Philippines at that time. Well, the backstory to it, I'm not saying that this was necessarily about this, but it's gotta have played some role in it, is that after the Japanese when the Japanese sort of went war warring in the nineteen thirties, this is before World War two, called the Rape of Nanking and China and all these other, they took an awful lot of gold with them, like a lot.
And they knew, at the onset of Pearl Harbor that basically they were gonna lose that war. They kind of knew it almost from the minute they started it just from a sort of logistics point of view. They're going there's only a certain amount of time we've got. If we don't win within inside eighteen months, we're gonna lose. And, of course, they couldn't, because it's just to do with manufacturing base and how many men you can get on the ground and so on and so forth. So they they were planning from 1943 onwards, so that's only, what, two years after Pearl Harbor, to shore up their economy for a recovery and victory economically as it were after, the cessation of hostilities.
And they were in the process of of shipping an awful lot of gold, all the gold that they'd nicked, basically, back to Japan. And they may have got some of it back to Japan, but the bulk of it, they couldn't get back because the American Seventh Fleet or the submarine arm and destroyers from the American Navy stepped up their defense, put like a ring around Japan to stop things getting into it, probably part of a blockade. And so these transport ships loaded down with gold couldn't get there. So, they sent them to The Philippines instead. For some reason, they were able to get to The Philippines at this time.
And there's about a 11, hundred and 20 mines, it's over a hundred anyway of these mines, dug in and around The Philippines, which I found out today is some 7,000 islands, The Philippines. I've I haven't looked at my geography, recently just like I didn't look at the heritage of Keir Starmer earlier, so it's all quite embarrassing. But apparently, about 7,000 islands there. And they began to bury this gold in vast quantities all over The Philippines. I think on Gayath's site, deepblacklies.co.uk, you may even find photographs of this stuff. It's quite amazing.
Some of these tunnels where they were they were still finding them in the nineteen nineties and possibly even into this century as well because they were all kind of obscured and hidden by codes and this and that and booby trapped as well, and some of the booby traps were still working. There's a photograph of one where they've got these gold ingots, running down this very small corridor. It looks it's about a yard wide by about a yard, four feet high. You'd have to, you know, bend down to go in this thing. You'd have to crouch to to to take the ingots down there. They're not like those sort of gold bars that you see in Goldfinger and when they see, you know, the London bullion stuff, supposedly at the Bank of England, all that stuff, they're massive. These things are absolutely enormous. By enormous, I mean they're about one foot by one foot by four feet, something like that. One foot by one imagine a block of gold like that. And they they were cast in such a way that they cast handles into the block so that two guys could actually pick these things up if they could. I don't know what they weigh, but it's a lot.
So there's a lot of gold in The Philippines. However, this, this particular, interview, with mister Alain brings something else into it. So I'm just gonna play you probably about four or five minutes of it because it's quite intriguing and it's to do with the amount of this section is just to do with the amount of gold in the world. So let's listen and see what he has to say. Yeah. I wanna really get into that.
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But before we get into the history of how they've been abused, how much gold do you think is in The Philippines?
[01:18:27] Unknown:
Sarah, if I told you, you would fall off your chair. So I'm gonna refrain from making you fall.
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I have a feeling I've heard it before from you, but I don't think the listeners have. And they I can confirm they would fall off the chair even you know?
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So how much do you think? Just I mean, we need to know. You know, I I was recently asked that question by a a, governor of Central Bank. I wanna say which governor of Central Bank. And I said to him, sir because he wanted me to be he he was saying to me, there's only a 28 metric tons of gold in The Philippines. I said, you're joking. I said, this is, absolutely not the case. I said, that may be the official statistics for the country of The Philippines, but not for the gold that's on the tribal land of the, indigenous people of The Philippines, but 7,000 islands.
Okay? This is not just a small thing. This is a very big thing. And so I said to him, I said, sir, there is in your archives a a document that was signed on 01/25/2007. On page four of that agreement, may I suggest you look at it because it has a full inventory of how much gold the world system, let's call it that way, has determined is in The Philippines based on satellite imaging. There are four satellites over The Philippines that are tracking all of that. The amount they determine, the such They determine. Not me. Yep. They. I said, go to page four of that agreement, and you will fall off your chair.
Guaranteed. So I said, that's all I said. That's all I had to say. And I can tell you, we think of it in thousands of metric tons. How if how about if I tell you it's actually billions of metric tons? Now that's gonna shock a lot of people.
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It would be enough to fund the world financial system. Correct.
[01:20:38] Unknown:
Correct. Now I'm going to ask you a question relative to VAT. If the VAT is what we valued it in 02/2007, why wasn't any of that used to in 02/2008 and 02/2009 to help the world?
[01:20:53] Unknown:
Oh, that's a good question. I haven't thought about that. What is What about COVID? Yeah. I don't know. What is your what what is your answer to that? They don't want you. Yeah.
[01:21:08] Unknown:
They don't want to. So there you go, ladies and gentlemen. According to mister Alain, there are billions of tons of gold in The Philippines. Nice. What should we do with it? What do you do with it? On a postcard. Well, yeah. What do you do with it? Plate plate your, your your vehicle with it.
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Whatever it is you drive. How about that? Yep.
[01:21:38] Unknown:
You see the corrosion off of it? It it's the I'm one of the things he says earlier on in the interview, which is really important. Again, it it's just down to the interference of certain men or groups of men. Let's just call them the money power, the usurers. It doesn't really matter, because this is as old as the hills, this nonsense. We you you mentioned, you know, when I asked you, Patrick, a few minutes ago, we've got gold at, what, $3,400 an ounce. So we keep thinking yeah. We keep thinking of it. So if you wanna buy gold, you will come up with some dollars. And then if you want to sell gold, you'll get some dollars back. And one of the points that he makes about this is if the on ramping and the off ramping of gold is conducted as it is banks? What about what about gold banks?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, his organization is doing something similar. I'll come to that in a second. The but if if the on ramp and the off ramp is in dollars, then the entire market is completely artificial because it's based on future contracts to buy gold. So you've heard Gold Bucks for donkey's years. I mean, I've been watching them since, I guess, the late nineties. There's guys that specialize this with their newsletters. They're completely right when they say that the silver market and the gold market is totally manipulated, which it how could it not be?
How could it not be? So there's it I mean, it's got certain qualities and propensities to this gold as an objective thing that make it ideally suited to act as money. You have to put, I think, 2% copper in it. That's what the krugerrand does. It might even be as high as 3% in a one ounce krugerrand. And you do that because it makes it much more durable and stops it flaking and all the gold flakes disappearing into because it will crumble. It's quite a soft metal if if any of you ever had in your hand. I mean, when we were minting coins, the first one we did, they were 100% gold, and you could you know, like pirates would bite them. You could do that and put teeth marks in these really rather pretty things. And, there's all sorts of reasons why they ended up being designed the way they were. But just coming back to that point, if you if you're in charge of the, transactional mechanism because we're all thinking dollars, Because why are we all thinking dollars? Because all the merchants of the world take dollars.
Therefore, the convenience factor is, you can't defeat that in terms of day to day living. Then you've got this kind of false situation. As he points out, if there are billions of tons of gold so we're told, I think it's like I said, about a 20,000 tons, so that's not even a million tons. So a billion is a thousand million tons. That's 1,000,000,000, and he said billions of tons. So you can it was it would disturb the gold price if there was so much gold around. And isn't it similar really to the diamond market, which is completely artificial as well?
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Yeah. It makes me wanna go back. There was an old William Cooper, show that he did on the the the start of the income tax in America, the IRS Internal Revenue Service, and it dates back to the first use was in in The Philippines for some reason. Makes me wanna go back and listen to that to that broadcast because he went through the history of the the founding of the Internal Revenue Service, and it had its start in The Philippines with the Americans stationed over there in the eighteen hundreds. So yeah. I'd I'd never heard this about the gold, though. I think you did tell me something about it
[01:25:28] Unknown:
a while back. But it yeah. It's I mean, it's really the gold, you know, and I'm just going back to the biblical stuff. Gold and silver are put forward by God as the money for the Earth. That's right. They are. Right? So and you've got all this other symbolism that goes with them. We've got silver which is the moon, by the light of the silvery moon, and we've got gold, which is the sun. And, silver is very useful as a as a currency, although they use a lot of it now, of course, in industrial processes, which they would do. And yet, I suspect the same will be found out for silver as for gold, that there's absolutely a lot lot more of it than than they will let on. And this is purely to manipulate markets, which they can do because the they control the the currency situation.
So the the we're still back to this basic thing is, if you cannot get moral and ethical systems in place that compel the people in them to behave morally and ethically, I e honorably and honestly, and to report honestly. That's the challenge. It's it's not that there's insufficient gold. I mean, there's been this thing, you know, floating around for years. There's a thing called NESARA. You ever heard of this? The national something blah blah. You ever heard of that? It's been kicking around since the nineties. If you look at NESARA, there's another one called GESARA, g e s a r a, and NESARA is n e s a r a. I've been reading about these things for twenty years at least.
The the arguments put forward by these people are silly. They say, look and it's a bit like you've got this trust with gazillions of dollars in it. Okay. Fine. If everybody's got one, this is where the it's the thinking that's still aberrated. It's still missing the point. The a surplus of money does not mean you've got more stuff. It just doesn't. It just means there's a lot more paper floating around. And if everybody gets a million dollars next week, the price of everything will just jump up to accommodate it because it has to. Because the price of every so everybody that's selling stuff will have to put their prices up because everybody else has put their prices up. So they need to ask for more money from you to pay their electricity bill, which will now be £10,000 an hour or something like that. You know, I'm just pointing this out. It it's not as if the monetary system can come to your rescue when it's designed to do the very opposite all the time.
I mean, I like the idea of gold, but the problem is is to do with, the governance of it. It's always to do with governance. It seems to me, human beings get involved and someone's on the take pretty quickly. So, you know and this is what Stephen Zarlanger was saying to me. Aristotle said that. Not that he'd met Aristotle. I think Aristotle's been dead a few thousand years, hasn't he? I've never met him either. But Aristotle, in one of his writings says that, you know, money is a creature of law and it's therefore it's the law that you have to examine. What are the ground rules for for our behavior between one another that says, yeah, I'm okay with this as a currency.
You know, if we operate in a purely honest situation, we could have even used duck feathers for money if everybody was scrupulously honest. But we've got this thing called human nature that kicks in, and people go, well, if I just take a little bit now, no one will notice. Little realizing that everybody else is doing exactly the same thing, and then you're in a mess again. So do you think billions of tons of gold would actually help us to improve things? I mean, I'm open to any sort of criticism of what I've said. I'm not I'm not a guinea. I think it could be fascinating actually and I'm I'm gonna jump into his website. I've put the URL somewhere in the Rumble chat. What is it? It's let me just read it out to you here because I've got it just on another screen. Let me just give you it.
So this is Joseph Allain, a l a l l a I n. He's highly qualified. He's been a government adviser for readjustments of economies and monetary systems and things like this. And I do like I don't know what nationality is. He sounds kinda Belgian. Maybe he's even French. Who knows? Globalgoldmf. Global gold m f Com. And, Patrick, you might be quite interested when you go there because they've got some of the gold coins that they've mint minted. On one of them, it's got the lion's head of Judah, I would suggest, and it's also got the name of Yahweh written on the coin.
And this guy makes certain biblical references all along about this is the money that God wants us to use. God owns it. We're mere merely the custodians of this. And it's it's as if the custodian culture, I. E. The banks, is, you know, we know what they've done. They've become the tail wagging the dog, and they've literally got everything under control because of the money. And these are the same guys that are telling Keir Starmer to behave like a like an idiot, although it seems to come to him quite naturally. I think that's probably why he was picked for the role. It's not difficult for him to do that. So yeah. Unfortunately.
Unfortunately. Unfortunately. So I'm gonna I'm gonna tunnel into that site a little bit more. We might say a bit more about it next week as well. In terms of, will gold save our bacon? And, Eric, are you back? Or are you out there counting all your gold stuff in Fockham Hall treasury? What's going on? The fuck bombs.
[01:30:55] Unknown:
He's sticking his tongue into the fuck bombs.
[01:30:57] Unknown:
Is he? He always disappears. He's showing here on screen. What happens all this technical doodads tonight? I don't know what's going on. I'm gonna I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna type something in the chat to him, see if he's there. Eric, where on earth are you? Eric, where where are you? Maybe he has gone down the treasury to count his coins out. Yeah. So there we go. Golden fuck blobs. Yeah. Yep. So anybody got any creative thoughts or ideas about how we could use gold to restore the peace in the world? Do you think it's possible? What do you think?
[01:31:38] Unknown:
I don't know. I don't know. Somebody will find some way. They'll envy. Envy kicks in, and that that'll really create problems. I think that's kind of the root of our current our current situation is is it's not that we can't create a fair monetary system. It's that there's greed and and there's always this one upmanship of envy of the other guy and what they've got and the jealousy that comes with it. That's like, wow. It I'm only happy if you're poor kind of mentality. Instead of instead of building each other up as a proper a proper Christian society, you know, the union of Christendom that we talk about so often.
Yes. We need we need that where we're looking after the least of the people, the poor, the poor among us. And that's that's not something that we currently have, and it's been going downhill for a long time. I think in our country, the the early presidents related to us as a Christian nation, and I think that's very important. You were talking about Henry the eighth and how that really threw a monkey wrench in the works in the stability of of the nations. Yeah. Because it it created disharmony not only on a wide scale govern with government, but also the basic family unit because you introduced this idea of a quick and easy divorce.
And Yes. That makes makes it so much more difficult raising children when you have this question of who's the parent, who's who's the most responsible, and what is what is their role in society. The the fact that the parent, can easily just say, well, I'm done with you. I'm going off to someone else and and and start a family there. It's like to hell with the the old family. It it creates total disharmony in society, and hence, eventually, it creeps into the government to where you have judges that are corrupted, that'll just turn a blind eye to criminal activity, and get bribed bribed by gold, bribed by whatever, sort of it is in the advantage of that Yes. The person the judge.
So it it it definitely made us a less just society as a consequence, and it created a lot more war that wasn't needed, and it's to get us to fight each other. But it's financed by these people that have been troublemakers for a long time, for thousands of years, and it's coming to a head. I don't I don't know what's gonna happen here, but that's my thought on it.
[01:34:47] Unknown:
I I I'd agree with practically everything you say there. Yeah. I mean, this thing about marriage. Right? All of these aspects, it's like divorce.
[01:34:58] Unknown:
Think about that, what that does to society.
[01:35:01] Unknown:
I know. I mean, like, my thing is no divorce. You're gonna have to really prove it because it a marriage is I've got this great quote. In fact, if I can dig it up, it's from a priest recently. Where is it? I'm gonna try and find this. It's a little quote. Someone sent it to me the other day. Let's see if I can find this. He's just talking about marriage, actually. I thought this was really spot on. Where is it? Where have he gone? I'm just thumbing through my long screen of stuff. Where has he gone now? Come on. Come on. Can't find it, of course.
Can't find this at all. Good thing here. Oh, there's one I've got a little image. It's what Jesus would have done. So it's Jesus and the money changes. This thing is pivotal really in all of this. Oh, there's another one. I got an estimate. There's a picture of Jesus. There's some of you are sitting at tables. You were made you were sent to flip. I think we, were yeah. So get flipping those tables everybody. Oh, this is such a it's a really great little quote. Let me see if I can find this while I mutter and fumble around like a monkey all over the place trying to get this stuff sorted out. Where is it? You can never find a thing when you want it but I didn't I didn't actually put it aside which is really stupid.
[01:36:25] Unknown:
So, the pope died.
[01:36:29] Unknown:
Who? The pope. He died. Oh, yeah. He did. He did. Yeah. What do you think about that? I think Is it bad or is it Well,
[01:36:39] Unknown:
he's been a he's been a a thorn in the side of the money changers, I think. And they wanted to get rid of them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He he talked about usury. He talked about the scourge of usury. He went to the his first speech, and if you can find it on YouTube, his first speech to the United Nations when he became the pontiff, he talked about the scourge of usury on society. And they didn't like that. And I think since the media being controlled as it is, there's always plenty of opportunity for the media to to go after the Catholic pope, you know, because it's I hear it all the time that people have, you know, all the petals and all this kind of stuff. It's all it's all the same stuff, and it's probably been going on for centuries for all I know, but the the accusations and that kind of thing. But I think, it's he he he had some bad health problems to begin with and it's interesting because he put out his autobiography before he died, which was a few months ago, and I purchased a copy of it and I started reading it.
And actually, on Monday, when I heard the news about his death, I was in the chapter about him explaining how his parents died of heart problems at somewhat of an early age for them. So it was, you know, it's, so he must have known he was gonna be a real share your views at this moment in time, Patrick. Well, it's alright. I'm not expecting that. No. I mean,
[01:38:25] Unknown:
I just I can't really. I was reading something by Hoffman,
[01:38:29] Unknown:
Michael Hoffman the other day. Yeah. I know I know Hoffman.
[01:38:33] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, I don't agree with everything that Hoffman says. None none of us agree with anybody else fully which is as it should be really. But I think the guy, just had a he had a poor he's he's not good. I think it was like, he was sort of there's gotta be someone better if you think that that's viable. I mean, I tend not to as you know. Right? It's very you know, these things I've been mentioning about Belloc. There's one bit. There's a thing called the English and Catholicism which I should send you about the the way that the English are in relation to it compared to every other nation in Europe. It's very different actually.
It's almost hidden and he talks about all this kind of stuff. It's really quite fascinating, actually, about we don't even acknowledge it or even aware that it even exists. Whereas, like, in Holland, even though Holland became a Protestant con country, there was still a very large, minority, like, 30 to 40% that remained Catholic and were persecuted, not in the way that they were over here. I don't think they were. I mean, I could be wrong about that. And so they managed to retain things, but England stepping away basically broke Christendom, and it did. And, of course, I would say it's not necessary of course, it happened here on this turf and it's easy to point the finger at Henry the eighth and rightly so. He's he's definitely a key part of it. But, one has to look at the role of the Venetians in all of this,
[01:39:58] Unknown:
as we've mentioned before. Yeah. I was gonna say it would have been one thing if it had died with him, but it went on with Elizabeth. Mhmm. You you know, having a female head of the church was kind of a new thing in that regard, wouldn't you say? Mhmm. Yep.
[01:40:13] Unknown:
Yeah. It was. It was. I just it's just this thing about a moral and ethical standard. I mean, if I was to define Christianity, I would say that it's the law and it's a way of life. That's where its pragmatic value comes from. And Belloc makes tremendous arguments to show No. They're more than just arguments. He actually shows that under Christendom as it was ruled by the Catholic Church, broadly speaking, there were standards across Europe and this is why things function so well. And I've mentioned this before, you know, that like if you look at Cobbit's book on the Reformation, it's an eye opener. He's not necessarily accurate about everything. He was right with the information he had at the time. But the overall context he puts across is the sheer madness of destruction of the whole thing, and yet he was raised in the so called Church of England.
I call I say so called because there are so many different flavors and varieties and it's as if I'm coming back to this thing you just mentioned as well a few minutes ago about people wanting to have an advantage. You get all these different variations on it. I'm going, does this book really say all these different things? I don't think it does. People spin it in a particular way because it enables them then to create a position of expertise. You need to listen to me, you see. My interpretation is better than that guy's. He does those guys over there they don't really know what they're talking about. This is what it actually means. I don't think it is ambivalent. I think it's pretty straightforward and the simple stuff is the key thing. So if it's a way of life, it's based on things like the 10 Commandments, it's based on honest money, it's based on having gold, and it's based on all the officers of the law behaving honorably. And it's that last bit that's all seems to be virtually impossible to bring about.
That's why it seems to be virtually impossible. So my impression of him, of that pope that's just passed away, is that he actually jumped into the church to avoid persecution in Argentina and from the military or something like that. And, you know, he's a Jesuit as far as I understand, and I'm not a fan as you can possibly tell, you know. Maybe as well, this is where Tupper Salsy's book comes in as a useful body of information. It's really worth it's a very taxing book to read. It is. It's labyrinthine. But Saucie, as a a a Huguenot, a descendant of Huguenots who were against the Catholic church and, you know, it they didn't come out too well in France and all that kind of stuff. He part of his early quotes in the book are, yeah. Look. America is actually governed by the Roman church even though no one can see it, and he points all these things out. And he said, and this is a good thing because it's about part of scriptural law. And I think I've mentioned also, how does God regulate evil?
He he sets up another force of evil, which in this case, according to Salsay, was the Jesuit order. And there's a lot of evidence to suggest that it is. It's not particularly, you know, they're brilliant teachers. What's his name? The guy that wrote Tragedy and Hope went to Jesuit College, didn't he? Carol Quigley. So, I mean, these guys have got considerable intellectual prowess and all that kind of stuff, but there's something about this human nature stuff, in the sense of people wanting to take advantage of a situation to the detriment of everybody else, and that's not what you're supposed to do. When you said we are supposed to look after the poor, it's in that stuff that we've really got to look at.
That really is the essence of of developing a healthy a healthy space. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous when you think there's so much stuff around. There's been so much technological progress, and yet people can't buy houses. I mean, you just have to stop and think about that. It's it's not even sane.
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It it doesn't make it's it's just Especially in the world we're in. The world we're in where we're not in a tribal situation. And I think in these prima more primitive tribal, the the places we go to war with that are tribal have have structures in place where peasants are able to get property. And you're you're judged by how many sheep you have or how many camels you have, whatever it is, you know, that, shows that you're wealthy. It's more of a it's it's more of realistic property value like you're talking about with property. But as far as the the church is concerned, this we're kind of finding out about the institution of the church because it it is made up of written and unwritten things.
And there's the what we you have the scripture and then you also have tradition. And what you have with the papacy and the Catholic church is apostolic tradition that goes back and can be traced back through lineage, through laying on hands in priestly ordination, all the way back to the apostles. That's something that needs to be considered. And it's something that's important. And we're learning that right now because everybody's talking about, you know, the pope died. Oh, you know, if if it weren't such a big deal, nobody would be talking about it. Wouldn't you? You know? You can't ignore it. You can't ignore it. Even, the Jews can't ignore it. The, you know, the Muslims, any of these other groups can't ignore it.
I don't know. I think as far as who the successor is, I hope it's the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem. That'd be something. He's an Italian. Pierre Battista, Pizzabala.
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What about that guy Vergano? He's the one that's been tremendously upset. He's been excommunicated.
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He can't.
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You see, it's all this I mean, this stuff's never gonna end. There's never gonna be a sort of this particular methodology.
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Tradition, though. Because because that's the power given to these the prelates, to the clergy, is who amongst them is gonna be their leader, who amongst them is gonna be excommunicated because of their behavior. I there's certain rules that are tradition as well as written rules in the scriptures, but not everything that was related by the apostles was written down necessarily, and it was passed down through oral tradition as much as written tradition and just through ceremony and ritual and that sort of thing, too. I mean, it's written down, but it's not not something that's always apparent If if you're just looking at the bible, let's say, as you're you know, there's certain protestants that say sola scriptura, the bible is everything. Well, it depends on your interpretation. Who's the one that's going to be interpreting it, you know? You can you can interpret it whatever way you want to. It's not necessarily going to be be true in any, you know, it's like it's like my truth is my truth and your truth is your truth. Well, that's relativism and we've got plenty of that and that's one way to justify murder at a certain point.
You can just say, well, you know, he he violated my truth, so I had to get rid of him. I don't so there there are rules, and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with this election. I'm following it. I don't I I find it interesting.
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Relativism. Well, you're like our sorry, Paul. I'm I'm sorry. Relativism is the only theory of relativity that does not fly in the face of quantum mechanics.
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Yeah. Well, you do you know what I you do what I mean by relativism? It's be like moral relativism. It's like you can justify anything that you do based on your truth. It becomes truth instead of being an objective thing is subject to what your opinion or the opinion of the powerful like we have now. It's like whoever has the most money makes the rules. It's not And your moral compass
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as well. Right. Quick piece of information. I actually found it if you search YouTube for dress rehearsal Chuck Hagel. Dress rehearsal dress rehearsal, Chuck Hagel, h a g e l. It'll pop right up. The, SNL sketch on, Felating Adomke.
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Good grief. I think we I think we need to start a movement, Paul, here in America to get rid of the senate, abolish the US senate and the office of vice presidency. Just get rid of it. What do we need it for? We'd the House of Representatives is all we need in a president. I get rid of the electoral college, do a direct vote for president. That gets rid of this whole, mon you know, this, like, whoever has the most money ends up winning because it's it's all rigged by the electors. It's not see, when we vote for a president, it's not a democratic vote. It's not a popular vote.
They vote for electors, individual electors, to vote for the president. Right. And that's But And the same with the senators. Even the these senators, they they get two no matter how much population they have. So Wyoming gets two even though it's got the least population, and California gets two, and and it's got one of the most pop it's one of the most populated states behind New York.
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Right. But the thing with the congress and the senate being separate is part of the separation of powers thing. The executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch, plus you've got a separation of powers among the branches like the judicial branch. No. The the, legislative branch. And, the senate is what actually has the most, not only the most Power right now. Authority over the country in general because the congress's only real authority is over the 10 mile square of Washington DC. They are the only authority over that space, and it's a nation state. It has nothing to do with the rest of the country except by presumption. What I think the, what I think they need to do is, I think that having one president is ridiculous because there is no way that one guy, no matter how good his advisers are and no matter how good his cabinet is, is going to have the skill set necessary to protect a country. We need one guy that knows everything there is to know about finance and business. We need one guy that knows everything that there is to is to know about military and protecting borders. We need one guy that knows everything there is to know about international relations.
We don't need one president. We actually need three or four, and the presidents need veto power over, another president. Like, if, let's say, the minister of finance or the president of finance, he's gotta get the 100% support of the remainder of the presidents before anything happens, before before any decision is made. So you've got the person that can make their case as having, the the utmost in knowledge and skill in a certain area, but he's gotta also be versed enough to be able to explain his position and convince the other three presidents or other two presidents that this is a good idea. It's good for the people. It's good for the country. Let's do it.
But if any one of them comes up with a harebrained scheme, it can be vetoed before it even leaves the Oval Office
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or the Westwood. Yeah. Well, same with these treaties. You take you take the, United Nations and the treaties that are signed via the United Nations, it only takes two senators to sign any treaty and make it effective international law. And treaties
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supersede the constitution. Now what the hell is up with that?
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Right. Alright. But think of think of all these senators. Do you know a good senator besides, you know, Rand Paul? Okay. Yeah. I can't think of any. None of them. None of them. They're the problem. They're the problem. They're the biggest problem. None of them are perfect. But then congressmen? No. They're not saying they are, but I say a lot of them are.
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I well, we've gotta do we've gotta build a fence around Washington, DC, lock the wax They're not in for six years.
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See, most of these senators end up getting elected for life practically. Look how long Chuck Schumer's been there. Oh, yeah. He's a piece of work. He's
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absolutely a piece of work. It's worthless.
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Should yes. Should we put this in the Fockem, because you're the Fockem party that can never be elected. Should we put that in the manifesto about, the president's
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About what? Yeah. About presidents. You know, I have three of them. I think we could have the same with prime ministers over here. Yeah. See, we we don't need a a vice president though. The vice presidency is there in case the president dies, and he also is the tie breaker in the senate, which has a hundred senators at any given time. He's the he's the hundred and first vote more or less. So Right. And we don't need we don't need that. And then the speaker of the house becomes president if the president should die, and then there's a chain beyond that in the house of representatives. And they they'd be the presidents that you're talking about.
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Right. Well, you know, in in your scenario, getting rid of the vice president, that wouldn't be a problem if there were three presidents. Because if any one of them died, the other two, through the use of advisers and executive panels, could make the make proper decisions for the country in the interim while they're refilling that seat that was vacated.
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Think about this. The heads of the party in in the congress, in in the house, the head of each party would be the official, you know, more or less a president in that scenario. And there'd also be room for third parties to come in at that point. The way it is now with the Senate, it's only ever gonna be two party system in America. Right. There's no there's no chance for a third party. So we'd have to we'd have to get rid of the Senate. That's that's what I'm trying to the point I'm trying to get across. If we're gonna have three more than two parties in there that are you know, we've got the two Republicans and Democrats.
They're just two boots on the same
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set of legs. They're two wings on the same bird. But you know the caveat in this whole plan is it would take an exact an absolute gutting and revision of the constitution, and that is the only thing saving our bacon right now. Because it's a charter of negative liberties, it tells the government to leave the people alone. Half the time, they don't even listen to it.
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No. Because they can sign treaties with the United Nations and do whatever they want. That's why we we we pay more attention to things like agenda 21 and all that kind of stuff that or agenda 30 or whatever it is. Twenty thirty. Yeah. Yeah. And we're worried about possible irrespective
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of the system and you adjusting it, is it possible to find a way to bring into these positions of power honorable people and have them maintain their honor?
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Has that ever been done? Not if there's a lot of easier. Not if there's cash to be passed under a table. There's no way.
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I mean, this is like, who is eligible for these things? It's like who should be eligible to have the vote when we spoke about it a couple of weeks ago, you know. The whole idea of democracy and voting is frankly is a nightmare. I mean, it clearly doesn't work.
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And it's it's the But it at the same time, it's almost kinda like a a thing where you're in a a state of chaos and you have to find out who the best person is to rule, to to set down the ground, you know, the groundwork and say, this is gonna happen by power of my authority and it's just based on what I you know, someone someone to to lay down the law and prefer informed by god's law and be able to do that. That's we need somebody that can do that. And the way it is now, it's just gonna always be kind of a plutocracy of who whoever has the gold whoever has the most gold in their possession makes the rules, and they can tweak it whatever way they want because they're not bound by any higher authority than themselves because they're the ones with all the gold. Well,
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that's because they're operating under Roman civil law. There's there's absolutely, no power or authority in god's law anywhere in Washington, DC. The District of Columbia is a nation state in and of its own, and it is driven by the devil and housed by his minions,
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populated by his minions. Yeah. Well, it's set up by rebellion to to a king, and that in in and of itself is not necessarily it's not a good thing. And it's, even though the king may be corrupt, that's the problem. Any system of government that you have, you can get corrupt people in there and it'll ruin it, Paul. It'll just
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Yeah. But Right. The the democracy, government, or politics is there for politics. That's all it's there for. Politics is not for the good of the country. It's there for the politics. And all it is is just, I mean, we've got a local election coming up on the May 1, and I've had a a leaflet through from, reform. Was that respect or some bloody policy, you know, what's that one, Paul, that for our cheese up fronting? Is it Reform. Reform. That's it. Sorry. I'm sorry. I haven't seen in the moment. And when you look at it, it could have been printed twenty years ago, thirty years ago. It's the same old rubbish. Nothing nothing new. Nothing that they said, this is the change we need. What change? It's not a change. How can it be a change if you go and get rid of usury?
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I was reading yesterday from the, I think it was chapter five or six from the acts of the the apostles, and they had to Yep. They they ended up electing deacons, to represent them so that they could take care of the needs of widows who felt that they weren't being
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taken care of. It was a group of Greeks versus the Jew you know, the the I don't know what you call them. Can you just hold that thought for a second now, Patrick? Because we're just at the top of the hour. We're gonna say goodbye to everybody on WBN three two four. We're still rolling on Rumble, I think. If you want to carry on listening head on over to PaulEnglishlive.com and click the Rumble link or the Soapbox link or whatever you see there. You should be able to pick up the rest of the show. We'll be back again next week. Hopefully, technically trouble free. You never can hold your breath on that sort of stuff. We're gonna play, JJ Kale to go out and we'll be carrying on after this lovely sharp little track called Lonesome Train.
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Lucky for me,
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I'm always on this side.
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Christmas ain't what it used to be.
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Mhmm. No, I think
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is. As it's me getting older. Things was cheaper though. Not cheaper. You could get five cigarettes for tuppence then. They don't make them with fives anymore, do they? Well, you never see them. People smoke more, I suppose. Yeah. People do seem to be smoking more since the cancer scare. Worry, I suppose. There were none of that then either. What? Cancer was all TB then. They can cure that now, couldn't they? Yeah. I suppose as soon as they can cure cancer, they'll think of something else to worry us with. My uncle Wilf used to say he reckoned it was the the government.
What? Used to give us all these diseases. It's a bit tough, mum. Well, they put them in our food. That's what he used to say. Mum. You can taste it in the water sometimes. It's chloride. Oh, Oh, there you are. They put that in to improve the water. They don't improve the taste. My uncle Wilf used to say, the only time they've got any use for us, the only time the government's got any use for us is in a war. Rest of the time, he used to say, we're an embarrassment to him. Yeah. He used to say that they only need so many of us to do the things that need doing, the rest they'd rather be without. So they spray our food, put things in the water to keep us down.
Well, they do it to rabbits. He used to grow all his own food. Everything. Well, all he could. He only had a window box.
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And all I've got's a window box. That was just a bonus track there because I had to go and do something whilst, whilst the little break was playing. Welcome back to, the final hour here on Paul English Live. I'm here with, Paul and Patrick and Eric. And we were just talking about rearranging the innards of The US governmental system just before that break, and we can carry on talking about that, gentlemen, if you like. That was, the Fockem Hall foreign policy, of course, will be will have to be in alignment with that, Eric, I would suspect. It certainly will have to be. And do you know something? Every week at twenty past nine, I get booted out of the studio.
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It's weird. It will Well, it it goes silent. This isn't a rumble studio, though.
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So maybe it's something else. Yeah. It it's straight. Every it went last week, and what happens is it just goes silent. The sight the sound just goes straight off and I have to come out of it and come back in again. It's weird. But You might have some kind of an alarm on your system that's going off and is hijacking your audio circuit system. Know. But I can't download shows on Rumble at all. So last Sunday show, I can't actually download it. I don't know why. It just won't let me. It
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might be your, DHCP lease renewing because it'll drop your Oh, what? Connection momentarily. Your dynamic host configuration protocol, DHCP, That's where you connect to the server and the server says, okay. You live at this address today. And then that lease will expire, and then you'll have to get a new one. And your connection hiccups in the period of time that it takes it to expire the old lease and issue a new one. Might be it. Don't know.
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Are you using a VPN? Eric. Are you using a VPN?
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I've switched it off tonight, but I normally use a VPN because it's the only way I can get on to BitShoot. Because which but BitShoot is actually banned in The United Kingdom now. We can't see it. Well, no. Actually, it's not banned. BitShoot itself switched it off because they're worried about the HBACH law that came out last year. So they decided, because they're a small company, not to risk it. So they switched it off in the unit UK. But I can still load up to my web Power. Because I use a VPN. Yeah. On possibly.
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Yes. Yeah. I think I think it's a bit it's a bit cowardice.
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A a cowardice. Well, maybe. But I think they're prone, you see. If we go back to that point about advertising revenue, where do they get their revenue from? Because we're not paying for anything, they're wide open to market forces and they can be crushed. We don't we don't pay for any of this stuff, do we? I don't mind That's right. I want my we've got to sort of change that culture. I think we might have to change it if we want to carry on talking. It would don't have to cost much, but it it kinda like you need to we need to create spaces that are like private clubs. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Private clubs. There can be huge private clubs. In fact yeah. Absolutely. I think it's this stuff that we've gotta start looking at and really looking at the paperwork wars, which is really what we're involved with to a great degree. That's how the warfare is being conducted, is this nibble nibble nibble, and we'll disrupt you like this. And it's this soft kill stuff, and this is all part of it. The fact that we telephone company.
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The telephone company, it it's it's the same principle of saying, well, you can't use the telephone because we don't like what you're saying. So we're gonna take away your telephone service. I mean, they can't do that, can they?
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They can't. There are laws against it. It wouldn't surprise me though. It wouldn't surprise me if they yeah. They can drop any connection or any call at any time because they have plausible deniability. They can blame it on a technical glitch.
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They can do whatever they want. When when they had that, thing that happened in London with the bobbing and that, everybody in that facility that yeah. I think the seven seven, they could not use their mobile phones. The only way they could get through would be, from a call box, and there's very few of them around now.
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But that was the only way they could get through was was a standard line. Because nobody had a problem with this. In, Minneapolis when Obama came to visit. They Yeah. They blocked all the all the cell phone traffic. Yeah. Did they? They can do it on yeah. They could do that at a moment's notice if they really wanted to. Yep. Oh, yeah. In the interest of national security.
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Yes. Oh, you can't have too much national security. I love national security. Don't you, mate? It's great.
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It's all for the best interest of the country. We absolutely love it. Yeah. It's just fantastic. We need we need all sorts of, FM radio transmitters, AM radio transmitters. And that way, if they ever do that sort of thing, we just thought we'll flip on a switch, and we're gonna broadcast to everybody and we'll know what's going on. Have our own emergency response service.
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That's that's why God made shortwave.
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That we'll get we'll get shortwave transmitters, set up our own, BBC longwave type broadcast.
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Shall we? Yes. We saw that from you know, the the only problem that you have with shortwave is that fading in and out of the signal. It drives you nuts and they're very, very low audio quality. And it is If you go a long distance with that with that stuff. Yeah. And then I've often thought you know, like, they've got AI and, obviously, if people have heard of AI and these this voice profiling and creating sort of voice profiles for stuff like that. I've I've thought that there must be a way, not that anybody would put any money into it because it would be too disruptive, but I feel that there must be some kind of a processing unit that could sit inside a shortwave radio receiver that would effectively receive that crappy signal in and just turn it into FM quality radio right there in your set.
There's gotta be something like that. It could just sort of have an algorithm that slowly works out and builds up. No. You can down sample
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high quality to low, but you cannot fix bad quality. Go with jeans. I bet you can.
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I bet I bet somewhere in Phillips Laboratories, there's a little Dutchman who's eating too much cheese, already worked it out. Something that what digital is all about, you just turn it into little digits, beep beep beep beep, you know, and then Yeah.
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And then, de encode it on the other end. You got your digital I suppose we could go back to Morse code and everybody'd have to learn it, and then we could all communicate by dots dots and dash, but it's not gonna Yeah. It points to signal. Engage a general audience too well, that, is it? It's gonna be a bit difficult that. Well, there's there's no way you could broadcast over Morse code. You talk too fast. This is true.
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What about Meshtastic? Course is fast.
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Have you tried Meshtastic? Because Meshtastic is what I don't know whether you got it in The States. But what it is, it's you can send a text to someone. And the way it works is it's done on a radio transmission. Yeah. Absolutely. And each one of little sets, daisy chains. So for example, if you wanted to make of a, send a message to someone that say, 30 miles away, it would then daisy chained to other people's mesh tash Relay. Sets Yeah. Relay through. Yeah.
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Here, they call them repeaters or relays.
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Call them what? Yeah. Repeaters or relays.
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That's a good idea. That's a good idea. And you know what we can do? We we we can get a radio jamming equipment and just jam
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jam the BBC, CBS, and all these other stations, all the NPR stations. No. You didn't say that. You never said that. That's very naughty. Nice. That's very naughty. I didn't even hear what you said there, Patrick. What did you say? Something about some jam on some sandwiches? That's lovely. That's great. Yeah.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Or or rocking jamming jamming with GarageBand and your buds out in the out in the garage. Yeah. Well, that's it. That's what he meant to say. Cool. A few. Yes. What do you think of,
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gold bank notes? Because you got them, there's a place in America Gold Banks. That Gold banks. Have you seen them? Have you have you have you and they're what they are, they are paper money, but with a layer of gold. So they've got some intrinsic value to them. And they want it as a lower domino denomination, and they're allowed in some states for, hang on. Let's have a look. I've got it here. Goldback. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? There we are. It says here, it's a novel form of currency that blends the timeless value of gold with the practicality of paper money. Unlike traditional currency, which often combines cotton and linen, gold backs feature a thin layer of 24 carat gold with each gold back containing one thousandth of a troy ounce of pure gold.
One Florida gold back gold note offered here is new to the Goldback series, and so it goes on. And I think it's, I'm not sure they're being printed in Florida, but some states, you can use them to trade.
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So if you It's kinda like a cryptocurrency, wouldn't you say?
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Yeah. But it's not it's not it's actually like a money. It depends on money.
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Really?
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Yeah. People are you I mean, people I like physical money, but of course, everybody's now being trained. This is the power of this sort of prolonged exposure to a new technology. Well, it's so much quicker to send an electronic
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code than it is,
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you know, an ounce of gold. Yeah. But big problem people have That that speed is part of the problem that we're facing. And because they can literally move assets instantaneously anywhere, you're involved I mean, literally, what power do governments actually really have? No matter what they say, markets are like liquid and just move around them within five seconds. It's all over. And that's you know, that's why I don't expect much from politicians. What are those you know, they can't come out and tell you, hey. By the way, we ain't got any control. Because if you do that, you'd never get involved and they won't have a salary. I mean, it's just a complete they don't have any control. This is the whole thing.
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And they can shut your assets off at will. That's the problem. Yeah. Spot on. And but the thing with the gold back here, you can buy a one Florida gold back for £12.13, which is about $15. It's not bad, is it?
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No. You buy them cheap? Well, of course, it's gonna it's gonna be that thousandth of a that's thousandth of a of a of a troy ounce is now $3.40. Right? If it's $3,400 an ounce. So that if you want to measure it in dollars, which of course everybody does, so if you want to talk about it in dollar values. I suppose, you know, we're talk because the world has become this high speed evolved electronic space, which it has, the ink the inconvenience of anything else is marked where and therefore, the speed of everything is in and and people, basically confuse speed with a better quality of life.
It it isn't. It just means that the corruption could take place at lightning speed now. It's I mean, could we slow down? Could we as individuals, now that we become habituated to all this electronic money transfer and all this kind of stuff, could we go back to just using notes for it? I mean, I like I prefer to use them. But you're talking about this shifting culture to get back to, this is all me quaint and being up. To get back to guilds and village life, that orientation where things move slower and I would suggest where life is likely to be richer because no one's got any thought time left really.
It seems to me this I mean, maybe this is why people I don't know if people are reading less books. I mean, I know that I think I mentioned that thing from I forgot this name. Rory, somebody rather the marketing guy. He's a bit tubby. He's an English bloke. And he's all over these YouTube video shorts. He comes out with some wonderful insights about people's behavioral habits and what they actually buy. And there was a wonderful one I heard the other day about a the best car salesman in America. And they were asking him why he was the best car salesman. And it was he said that whenever anybody came in, he wasn't thinking about selling them a cart that car today.
The the the whole of his pitch was that he was gonna do it in such a way that when you came to replace that car, you would come to him. So he was extremely honest in his appraisals of the cars they were looking at. He wouldn't sort of butter them up or oversell the car at all. He would say, what's your situation? You you don't want that. You don't that's not what you want. In fact, I won't get any of these. And so they came to trust him implicitly because he was telling them the truth, basically. So the short term gain didn't exist. Of course, I guess his sales manager probably jumped on his head at first if he'd started doing those sorts of things. This is part of that sort of cultural pressure in business organizations. We've got to make money yesterday. I mean, it's mad. This this freneticism when there's so much stuff around, but we can't we can't exchange it in a nice way. I hate using the word nice, but I just did. But you get my drift. Yeah. This this I get it. It it it totally coincides with the what I was talking about from from the Acts of the Apostles.
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Because what it was is you had you had the widows of the Greek speakers versus the widows of the Hebrew speakers. And they weren't able to they didn't have the time to to judge the matters of the distribution of the goods because the way it was working in the Christian early Christian, especially at that time, is they were pooling all of their money together and then distributing it according to need. And you need just, you know, people who have the time to sit and account for all of these factors. It's like, well, we can't communicate with these people because we don't know the language, but they probably need what we've got. So let's send somebody over there as a envoy to figure out what their situation is, so we can get them what they need and have harmony and peace and don't start getting quarrels and things going on.
We need we need that sort of mentality of of like that car salesman know knows that, hey, this guy's gonna buy this and it's gonna break down after a certain period of time and he only has so much money. We need somebody like that because it sounds like he was a good car salesman because he was a just person. And he was looking out for the actually looking out for the customer rather than his own, you know, his short term gain.
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I just had a thing like that happen to me the other day. I need to find a printer for something. And I went to this place and they said, well, actually, we're supposed to give you our printer, but we're a bit expensive. But here, look, make a note of this guy and his number. He'll be able to do it in time for you and it'll be better. I went, thanks. Yeah. I think I I think that Isn't that how we really wanna operate?
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Well, yeah. But I I think Patrick's idea has merit, but it kinda smacks of socialism. I would think that neighboring countries or communities could send envoys to an area that may be economically or industrially depressed and provide a workforce and a knowledge base to get them up to speed to be able to produce what they need themselves. That way you're giving them a leg up and not a handout. And I think that would completely eliminate
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those socialist things. Just like socialism doesn't work and you if you read Belloc, you realize that that sometimes there's an overabundance of things in a certain geographic location just because of its, you know, it happens to be auspicious to sheep wool. You know, you're raising sheep compared to a desert where you have another resource that you could derive from that.
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Right. Well, there's free trade.
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I think Yeah. But we're talking about fair trade.
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Yeah. I I mean, socialism is follows on it's like the antidote, supposedly, to capitalism. I've heard socialism described. It's Christianity without Christ. But That's a good way to describe it. Yeah. You could I can see its appeal. I can see its appeal up to a point. You can see that. Yeah. I mean, I think I'm into sociableism, which is slightly different. I'm into, that's what I'm really into. I'm a I'm a national sociableist, and sort of defining those words down, a nation being a tribe of people of the same race with a shared and received history, culture, and language. So go, okay. I'll I'm into that. For all nations, I think this is the right way to go because as I've said before, you know, all the people are basically fundamentally on the same wavelength, which means that you can detect bad people among you quicker when you're all of one sort of racial type. You just can. You can just do that and the good. You can see it faster. You can ask you can feel it instantly. You can't when you're with people who've got a different internal operating system. It's not their fault nor is it yours. It's just that you're trying to actually make something work that's really a bad design in the first place. You go, look. Nature sorted it all right. Right? Can you just follow nature a bit because it it knows what it's doing. You stay there, talk with your guys, and we'll stay over here, and every now and again we can swap some sheep for some desert or whatever we need to do. And I think that's a key part of it. But so if if I think of national sociableism, I'm thinking that it's it's it's the law it's right somehow. It just seems to be right. And we're talking about I know it sounds a bit weird, but if we're talking about developing a a higher culture which is really what I think, you know, much of really you could sort of boil down a lot of these things. So we want honor in in law. We want honor in money.
We want to see I do. I want to see beautiful buildings come about. And the only way that all these things can and have come about in the past is when you've got stability in the civilization, where you don't have people that have haven't got property. This is why you've got to have it. You can't build those things because someone is gonna take advantage of us proles because we've got nothing to resist with. So they do. They just take advantage of us. We're just pushed about like flotsam and jetsam quite easily. And of course they've become habituated to that degree of power and that's why I think it's like habit. They go, well, it's always been like this and we're always gonna be in charge and that's that. That. We're going, yeah, but it's crap.
They're not for us. It isn't. And from their point of view, they're right. Although they, you know, as individuals, they're not particularly inspiring, are they? They're all a bit, you know, what this is it really. Just a country. Yeah. Yeah. That's all we wanna do.
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Because there's a
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famous, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Eric. No. No. Carry on. You were first before me. So I'd say Well, actually, I like Paul's sociableism idea, and I think he should take, thirty seconds, and make a short little speech promoting sociableism and its many many positive aspects and I'll provide the background. I'll provide the backtrack. Go for it, Paul. It doesn't
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okay. So it wouldn't have to be a thunderous sort of I can't do it now off the cuff. I've got to go away and write it up as a script. Otherwise, I already did it a few moments ago. But it was just a thought, you know. People, like communism. One of the ways that, Belloc describes communism is that it's a cure that's worse than the perceived disease, which it is, you see. So what we need in this world is national socialism. Well done. Well done, man. Well, it wasn't it wasn't much of a speech, because, you know, my main was like my brain was like tapioca for the few moments while I was talking. But, you know, it needs a little bit of The 10 planks of the sociableist
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manifesto.
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Yeah. They're nice to one another. What does that mean? Don't kill one it's basically the 10 commandments, but just, you know, it it is. And I keep coming back to this first one often in my thinking about honoring God above all things. And the simple reason you know, on a sort of purely intellectual level, which is never enough, by the way. It's never enough. This is a great mistake I think that humans may go, oh, I've worked it all out because I'm a smart ass. Yeah. It's still not enough because there's no compassion in it. It's all about it's far too it's missing so much stuff. But if you do not put that first, something else will occupy that position.
It's a sim and and it won't be as good because it can't be. You're being, you know, required to actually behave well. That's that's fun. Good behavior is it. And, I know it's a thin sort of phrase to sort of put out, but that's what we're talk we want good behavior in banking, please. Can we have it all simplified so that missus Smith of '73 can understand it? Will you stop bamboozing her with 16 page contracts? She hasn't got time for this stuff. She she wants to lead her life. Also, Tom, the the 15 year old, who's getting off in life dirt burdening with mortgages that he can't pay. All of these things are it's not competition.
It's wrecking the opportunities for people to live and behave well. So people can't behave well. There's yeah. They're so interfered with. We're all interfered with. And and then I'm thinking, well, maybe, you know, then we go back to the law of the fittest and it's the survival of the fittest and all this kind of stuff. I'm going, well, okay. But that's just low grade. Well Yeah. I don't wanna do that anymore. We've done that for ten thousand years, and it's rubbish. You know? So we do something else. A gentleman that would have been 36,
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and his birthday was on the twentieth of this month. Yeah. He said the stronger should help the weaker up, and the rich should help the poorer up. And that's a very nice philosophy. Great idea. That is the strong the strong help the weaker. And it's not charity.
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Philosophy was as well. That's right. I mean, it's Is that you help
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you see, I've got this thing about charity. It irritates me. No. It's not so much charity. It is helping someone to help themselves. That's basically it.
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Well, it's the centralization of organized charity that's the problem. Again, an administrative class is created, and they become used to the salaries they get. And also the plaudits because they're more saintly than the rest of us because they're helping people out. Right? And what it does is it removes the opportunity for people at grassroots level to begin to behave well to their neighbor. Everybody thinks, well, there's an agency somewhere that will deal with that so that I don't have to. Whereas, in fact, the great joy is to actually interact with anybody at all and give them a hand. It's fantastic. It's such a gift to be able to help other people, and we've lost that sense of that as well. It's it's all these subtle things about a sort of I know I'm being kind of milk sopping wet about this, but about being kindly with one another. This is really what everybody's missing as well. You can feel it. I mean, following the political spew is a complete waste of time, and yet it absorbs every so many people's attention because of the drama involved. The implications are that you're gonna be worse off. I mean, I just I heard today that Ed Miliband, the brain of nothing, a man who just basically can't think anything properly.
They're now talking about increasing the electricity bills in the South Of England, Eric. You'll be pleased to know about this, being sort of in the South a bit. I'm right in it, because, they want to. Apparently, we've got too much money. So they're gonna this is that whole thing. This is the whole problem. And I think if if people had all their money left over, the idea that everybody would keep it and go on holiday all the time may occur for a short while, but it wouldn't in a long while. I think people genuinely do want to help people, but they don't have any resources left to do it because the agency has stepped in, drained your pockets. You don't need to worry about helping everybody else. We're the government. We're here to help. It's just it's it's ridiculous.
It's absolutely it's a ridiculous state of affairs. I think it also comes down to who's qualified, you know, to be in government. They don't even sit an exam, do they? No. They need to sit an exam. If they don't understand central banking, you can't be a politician. And and we need to, as the punters, as the ones that are supposedly going to be guided or even governed, if you want to use that word, by these creatures, we need to see that exam. We need to look at it and go, the People's Committee for Financial Exams have rejected this exam because it's for thickos. Anybody could pass it. We want a prop. It's stuff, you know, then you get into all this administrative haranguing. But they don't have any quality they don't know what they're doing. It's not just a figure of speech. They don't.
They actually don't know what they're doing except keeping their job. I know I'm I'm stating the bleeding obvious over and over, but it I sometimes feel that stating the bleeding obvious is actually really over and over. It's actually fundamentally what's needed so many times to get the point across. Of course, we don't have the weight of reach with a show like this yet, he said optimistically.
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Well, have you seen the, have you seen the Belgium Health Minister? She looks Corner. Corner. She's lovely. She she makes Michelin man looks look look look anorexic or Sue wrestler look anorexic.
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Yeah. Unbelievable.
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And look at what was he doing on health. Who is that bloke used to smoke cigarettes? And he was, he had, shares in BAT. Oh, I can't think of his name there. But he was head of he's a health minister, and there he was puffing away on cigarettes all the time. So, I mean Well, I thought cigarettes were good for you, aren't they, Eric? Or have I got that one wrong as well? Like Keir's name Nine nine Autoimmune doctors recommend Camel.
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They do. They do. There's something reassuring about the smoking doctor. It's as if he's so healthy, he goes, I can even smoke cigarettes and look after you. Look how how in command I am of the physical universe. I just love it. It's great. They should all smoke pipes and carry little leather bags, and they don't need to be that clean and tidy. He says, oh, you don't need to worry about all this modern stuff. And you don't for most of it. I mean, the people oh, you just don't. You know? A kind word from a doctor is worth all the medicine in the world. I'm serious. I just think their bedside manner is 90% of what they do. That's my take on it. I think it's so mega important.
You can't half improve people by smiling at them and making them feel good. You go to other places, they just make you, well, this is gonna happen. It's gonna be terrible. It's like, come on. Pack it in. I don't want this going to my ears. I know someone who actually has confronted his doctor on three occasions and told him to shut up because of the diet the way he was delivering the diagnosis. Basically, the gist of it was you don't talk to me like that. Right? If you're gonna talk to me, you talk to me in a way that's constructive. I'm not interested in this manner that you're talking to me in because it's having a negative effect. Right? And it is. It does. Words carry so much weight. And,
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you know No. They're they're chief revolutionaries, these doctors. I tell you.
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Mhmm. Yeah. Well, just look at it. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. They're doing it subtle now. Now there are other with the, medical mafia, they're either talking about ladies tits or men's ghoulies. And the latest one in this country Is that true? Yeah. Monthly. Tension Goolies. Yes. And this this this particular one is prostate cancer. I was sitting in my car the other day, and there's a bus in front of me. They got a bleeding grate poster on the back of it, prostate cancer. Looked up, and there's a poster slightly above it, about shingles.
Not not what you put on your roof, but what people suffer from. Because the Yeah. Big pharma got a new new toxic crap that you pump in yourself. Stop that. Now The shingler. Even a shingler. That's right. And even on the side of a bloody, you know, these big, heavy goods vehicles that deliver building materials. They even had a load of stuff about prostate cancer on the side of that. What's that got to do with bleeding building materials? And what it is is to work on your subconscious.
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Of course.
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Everywhere you look, it's working on your subconscious. And that's the thing.
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And I It's to keep everybody in a mild or ever increasing state of anxiety about something. And it really is the case that if you if we were to go and stay in a forest for a a couple of months and cut off from all this stuff, we'd probably be very happy. We probably would be. I mean, okay. So you might miss you might miss your cheeseburgers, but not from not from a fast food chain. There's nothing stopping you making a cheeseburger out in the wild, is there? I'm sure if you if you took enough stuff, you'd be able to do it. But I did it's yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I just like I've mentioned it before, I talk to everybody. I mean, I've had some wonderful conversations over the past week. In fact, I I think I was saying it maybe on your show the other day or whatever, but I didn't say it here. On, on Saturday, it was a beautiful day here and I went out for a long walk. It was really long actually. I don't I did about eight miles. I just got it was such a beautiful day and I was just walking around. And I, I normally walk out into the countryside first and come back, but this time I thought I'd walk into the town, which is a bit grim to be quite honest, but I wanted to do it. And I went down to the pier and circled around there and it was so nice walking by the sea. Nice again. It was very nice. It was. I can't I came around this corner and there's a an old lady sitting on this bench.
And the bench was really well positioned for the time of day because she was looking straight into the sun. It was about 03:00 or something. And I just started talking to her about things and I found out she's called Mary. She was 98. No. 99. One of eight. She had all her marbles. She was firing on all cylinders. She was wonderful. She was of Irish descent. And we talked for about twenty minutes. It was absolutely fantastic. Just found out about her life and how she came here and stuff like that. And she was and she had a little walker and she couldn't walk. And I said, well, can you get back? You know, do you want a hand or anything? And she said, no. I'm I'm quite nearby. She said, I used to go bowling, but I can't bend down Crown Green Bowling, not 10 pin bowling like you maniacs in America. She didn't do that. Although, there is a 10 pin bowling alley here in this town, and I quite like that. It's good fun. And she said I can't bend down and, I still see some of my friends and it was just fantastic to talk to. I don't know why I'm telling you this, but it was great. And I I like to engage with with people. And and during that twenty minutes, I was very happy. I I like note my condition. And when you're sort of putting out as it were or engaging with other people, a lot of this stuff that we are trained to be permanently anxious about for that moment of time and maybe for a little while afterwards it disappears completely.
And one is buoyed up by this. And he kind of re for me, I I'm sort of recontacting what it's like to just have a good conversation with anyone that's cheerful. And if you're cheerful, generally people end up being cheerful back. It's not too difficult actually. And there's there's not there's not enough of that going on. And I I I sort of grew up in a place where that was going on all the time when I was a kid. My dad was always talking to neighbors over the fence, you know. I know it's a simple observation but it's a sign of a healthy society when that's taking place. So I wanna be in one so I make it my own when I go out and walk. I'm gonna live in that space that I wanna live in and this is how I do it. It's part of my little armory if you wanna call it or my little behavior habits that I'm trying to that I'm conscious of doing it quite consciously to engage with people.
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It really does. Dread.
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It really does. Yep. Yeah. When do you last have a good belly laugh? And I'm really talking about a real painful belly laugh where you're laughing so much, you're almost in pain with it. I mean I don't know. That used to be very common when I was a kid because my uncles but the thing is, they were you know, because they're comedians, but the thing that gets me I this is why I think humor is our greatest weapon, and we should load a gang into a gag into the chamber and fire out a gag these miserable bastards. Look at Starmer.
Why can't we all start jeering him and laughing at him? I mean, do you think how humiliating that is to have groups of people just go ducky, all that sort of stuff? I mean, it'd be fantastic, wouldn't it? You know? I mean, I think the boy then.
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I know. I think one of the issues with him specifically is that he can't be shamed. No. I I think he can't. I mean, his cycle So His is well, whatever it is, psychologically, there's something damaged about him. He's damaged. I think he really is damaged. He'd he can't act like a normal empathizing human being. Even when he's doing it in these little speeches and stuff. He did a thing on Saint George's Day which I posted today and it really is. It's instant vomit. I said you don't need to stick your fingers down your throat. Just watch this for you'll be vomit. You'll clear your stomach. It's just revolting. It's like a practiced act, and he he he's never gonna see it. You can't give him any feedback. There are many people that you probably met like that in life who are just absolutely convinced that, you're obviously wrong in in these criticisms.
It can't even get into their head. I don't think we really need to do anything with Starmer. I think, you know, as you've said before, Eric, he is a bit of a gift. The the way to actually reduce his impact in your life is to not pay any attention to him and to pay attention to the Marys who are 99 of this world and have a chat with them and be refreshed and look at all these refreshing things. I mean, I've had so many good conversation with people because I walk I've been walking around for quite a while. I had another one earlier in this in the Saturday with a a neighbor here who's who had not seen ever before, only about sort of 50 yards ago called Carol.
And and the reason I remember her name, I said, I'm I'm very bad at names. I said, because my head's full of them. My my internal Rolodex is crammed with names. She said, oh, she said, it's Carol as in as in Christmas. Of course, I never I've never forgotten. So she's known as Christmas carol to me now. I had a lovely chat with her. She came from the same Neck Of The Woods as me, and she's been down here forty years. I don't think I'll ever go back up north. I said, no. Probably not. She came from Oldham, you know, somewhere like it was not exactly the same Neck Of The Woods, but it's up north. And she was just fantastic. And, you know, people just opened up. And she told me that her daughter had broken her foot and all these things. And I've I've turned into one of these people that are at the garden. The the guy having a chat over the garden fence. Missus so and so's got pink curtains at Number 33. It's dreadful, isn't it? I know.
Totally. It's brilliant. It's a yeah. I'm just, you know, I'm wading through Belloc and reading all this other stuff and then I just go out there and I just go, I wanna have a conversation about what's actually really going I just wanna know what's going on with people. It's it's very rich. It's richer than people think. You know, it's great. I use a a similar
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memory key to remember the name of one of the Supreme Court justices in The United States. Mhmm. Right. And, it's Amy Coney Barrett. Okay? Amy Coney Barrett. Yeah. And how I remember the Coney part is I think of Coney Island at a clown show. Yes. And it fits perfectly.
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Well Yeah. That's good. I like that. There's a by the way, in, chat, Mer Bailey said humor is a form of love. It's the first I've ever heard of that. That's interesting, ain't it? Humor I think she's right. It is.
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It is. It's giving it's giving of things. And I know you talk about jokes, Eric, and I'm I I like I'm not really a joke teller. My brother is. My brother's just sort of like an encyclopedia of jokes which is really quite amazing in a way. So he's got a real skill at doing that and likes to tell jokes. I'm kind of I like sort of situational undermining a lot. I find it very funny. Don't you think that I know this sounds ridiculous but you know if people just fall over don't you think it's the funniest thing ever? Yes. I just we used to I we just sometimes people fall over it just is instantaneous. It's because in that moment, they're robbed of all their dignity. Immediately, it's all gone, and they get it slightly
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it's very funny.
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Yeah. The little people who go that faint. Yeah. They just do it, don't they, all the time? They just collapse. Well Oh, I had an I had a wonderful thing happen to me the other look, in terms of walking about, I I had to, when was this? Easter Monday, I went for a walk again, and, I I got a bit peckish. So there was I went in this I bought a meal deal. We have a thing over here guys in The UK called meal deals. You get a sandwich and a drink. What was the drink? Banana and crocodile juice or something like that. And I got a chicken sandwich and I got a cookie because, you you know you do and you get the whole thing all bundled up and it doesn't cost so much and it was just what I wanted and I was eating as well. I came out of the the shop and the sandwiches are in the cardboard box. I walked two yards and a seagull came down and got the whole box out of my hand and flew across the other side of the road.
It never ever happened to me. There was a there was an incident with my dad years ago, because my brother was telling me where he got an ice cream and this seagull came down and just took the whole ice cream because he wanted it. Anyway, I was quite cross. You wanted to leave it. So I called this seagull I was pretty cross about this because I was quite hungry and I didn't want to go and and show up again. So I called this seagull a twat. It didn't understand what I'd said of course, it being a seagull. And I ran across it couldn't actually cope with the weight of the sandwiches and so I ran across and nearly kicked it. It only just got out of the way of my boot. It dropped the things and and I ate the sandwiches and apart and they were fine apart from I had a few tail feathers the day afterwards but other than that it wasn't too bad it was and after I'd got it as well it it was circling me like in the birds I'm serious it flew overhead about three feet above my head eagerly looking at this chicken sandwich. And I'm going, but you're a see you can't eat chicken. It's cannibalism. You can't do that, you know, because it it's not really. But do you see? I had an exciting time just out walking, getting attacked by seagulls. It was it was something.
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My mother, we there was a funny Newquay. And the seagulls down there were particularly aggressive. And Yeah. When you bought some chips or fries in a chip shop, you come out, and they come sneak them out your out your pack packet, you see? So anyway Mhmm. I was, I was only a little nipper at that time. So my mom and dad went in and bought some, chips or fries, as you call them in America. Came out, and they're wrapped in newspaper in those days. And these seagulls were all around, making a lot of squawking noise. And my mother got so peed off with his seagull, he's screaming at her. She she threw the chip at the seagull, said, look. Shut up. And it went straight down its throat. It went, oh, god. Oh, good lord. I know. I know. I always fell into the back of the harbor.
I I mean, he did the hobby. I mean, he'd got over it, but it was in a stairs. The aiming was perfect. You know?
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The only thing I the only thing I remember from my childhood was was the, the enjoyable discussion at the dinner table. And my dad was he was getting on me for something, and he he was going on and on and on. You know, you would do a lot better if you would just pay attention. If you could if you would focus on what you're doing, I'm sure that you'd be able to learn and remember your studies and and that you would be fine. It's it's your attention span that is the problem. And if you just work on that, I think you'll be better. And and I looked at I looked at him and I said, what? And he started all over again.
You know? It just nobody else at the table got it, but he didn't.
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Was anybody
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There's something about humiliating your dad gently that's very sweet and funny, isn't it? It's nice. And they're lucky. My dad used to I do that sometimes and he'd go like that. I get a big raspberry phone then he'd start laughing. It was great. I love all that stuff. It's it's very playful. It's like light, isn't it? It's lovely stuff. But did you ever get when you was a child, did you did you ever go through the plague of electronic organs?
[02:45:45] Unknown:
That was a time, it's a particular time. It was in the seventies when, electronic organs came out, and people of a certain age The Hohner's cord organ. Yes. Yes. And, actually, my parents bought a Lowry, which was actually made in America. And, of course, my uncle had a Hammond. And, of course, having a Hammond organ was Lowry and Hammond. You folks were like There's a rush. That's it's really snobby. You see? So, anyway, what got me is my parents would go around, looking at these bloody electronic organs, and I I absolutely detest the sound of electronic organs.
[02:46:25] Unknown:
They're lovely, Eric. They're lovely.
[02:46:27] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. As always, listen to this. This is a banjo sound. And this is and all the bloody sounds sounded the same. This is a harpsichord. Oh, listen to this. This is tambourine. Anyway, what happens is bigger little sod. My mom, she used to play by ear. So she's she sat in this organ studio, and she's playing away. And they put they used to have this thing where there is an automatic, drum beaker. So I just got out of. Casually got near the knob, which was put this drumbeat on, and it was gradually increasing the speed. And she didn't notice. She's trying to fly away like anything. It's like smoke coming out the cage. You know?
But, they my my parents were so addicted with this electronic organs. They bought they used to buy records of it. There's a chap called Jerry Allen. Probably nobody's ever heard of him. And, oh, you know, it used to be dig dig dig dig dig. Oh, listen to that. Isn't that marvelous? Well, we had a black old black and white television, and I wanted to see this particular program that night. But, of course, my dad came home with his record, and we had to listen to the record first, which I absolutely hated. And of course, it would be half an hour into the show, into the record, into into this BBC. Because there's any what? Three, television stations and BBC, ITV, and ITV.
What was another one, wasn't there? BBC two. That was it. Anyway, what happened is, I decided to put the record on at, a faster speed. I think it was 45 instead of 33. Right? Tomorrow. So they would end quick easy. And he got and started to think, oh, what a marvelous plan this man is. Oh, yeah. And there's a thing called the Wow Wow. Oh, it's his wow wow org. They sounded really quite disgusting, some of these terms. Anyway, we got through the first side, and he didn't notice. I was thinking, oh, my program's coming on in quarter of an hour. I'm just gonna make it. Then suddenly, he flips it over, still doesn't notice that that is on 45.
In fact, it sounded bloody, so I better at forty five than thirty three. And we got halfway through the second side, then they noticed it. And, of course, I missed the program because I had listened the whole thing properly over again. So I never did see that child. Good lord. That's what you get for breaking the rules. Poor guy. Well, no. It's not that. No. My what what what your your attitude then was children should be seen and not heard. Yeah. You're not here for pleasure. So if you want to see something on television, tough shit. If you then what they said came first. Yeah. I mean, not what what you wanted.
I'm totally right now. Yeah. That's it. You know? We used to sleep in a cardboard box at the bottom of the river. Woke us up before we went to sleep so we didn't drown. That's how bad it was.
[02:49:32] Unknown:
But,
[02:49:34] Unknown:
but no. Actually, literally, I'm glad they've gone out there. They were so bloody awful. They were terrible.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
I really Yeah. We had one big old lorry and and then the big, tremolo speaker.
[02:49:46] Unknown:
It would sit and turn, you know, spin Leslie's There's something slightly sort of depressing about the whole thing. It was sort of music being played half heartedly or sort of subdued in a way and I never, I didn't I didn't really like it. Yeah. But even No. My dad could play piano, but they got he got an organ later on in life, and it was okay. But it was only okay when it was tuned to play like a piano for me as if it sounded like a piano that's great, you know. So it's pretty good. We've still got a we've got a stand up piano in the house and we've just had it here for years. My sons have just learned to play. They keep on threatening to learn to read music and they say, should I? I'm going, I think it'd be great, you know. Yeah. It'd be really good because they learn by ear. And then they're sort of playing all these complex pieces, and it's simply because the piano has been sat there for years. It was bought in 1962 by my wife's mom for 10 shillings. 10 shillings in 1960. It's a lovely stand up piano.
We need to probably get it retuned. We need the tuner out, actually. It's been tuned for about fifteen years,
[02:50:48] Unknown:
something like that. So I probably need to get it out and tuned up. But it's just a trackpad. It's there. Didn't it? I? Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It used to be a blind used to be a blind bloke that came round and tuned out piano because blind people can got better hearing. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut interest in, but,
[02:51:02] Unknown:
no. But there's He couldn't find the piano, but when he found it, it was great. Yeah. He says the piano. That's right. Stop tuning the washing machine. The pianos are here. Clot.
[02:51:14] Unknown:
Yeah. But it's it's it's a very strange thing because with the electronic organs, the only people that seem to enjoy the music is the people that's playing. Nobody else. It's only the people the players that enjoy the music. Oh, listen to that. Ain't that marvelous?
[02:51:28] Unknown:
You know? It's, Yep. But but you haven't lived until you've heard a Hohner chord organ because the Hohner chord organ was like this short keyboard. It had, like, 22 keys on it, and it had, like, eight chords. And it had this little blower fan inside that would blow air into Oh, wait. That reeds That's it. That that would make the most nasal and obnoxious sound in the world, and people just couldn't get enough of it. Did the whole thing fan on the Leslie speaker.
[02:52:02] Unknown:
Really? Because we had my dad used to press a button. You get this and it sounded all sort of worry. Put it on the Leslie spaker.
[02:52:10] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well Yeah. So Oh, here's here's something for you. Here, this is reminiscent of your your your, time as a child with the 45 RPM.
[02:52:28] Unknown:
I'm feeling a bit depressed now. Can you stop that?
[02:52:32] Unknown:
I need a sick bag. I need to sick up. That was a bit much.
[02:52:37] Unknown:
Oh, good.
[02:52:38] Unknown:
And then you know, these these records that my dad bought always had the organist with his same smile on. It's a kind of cringing, sickly smile. You know what I mean? It's, you know, Ted Ted blogs on the mammoth organ and Bert Bert Iggenbottom
[02:52:56] Unknown:
plays plays I don't know. Somebody must have been buying those records, Eric, though. Who was buying those rec do you remember Bobby Crush? Do you remember Bobby Crush in the Southwich?
[02:53:08] Unknown:
He used to call Bobby Crush.
[02:53:11] Unknown:
Paul look. All the old ladies loved him. His hair was very neat, wasn't he? And he was always smartly dressed. He was. I used to hear this from my aunties. They go, oh, he's so smart. Of course, I'm about 14 at the time going, oh my god. You know, it was just repulsive stuff. He was always grinning, wasn't he? That towel there or whatever it was to be crushed. Don't even get Probably not his real name, I suspect. No. Don't even get me started on Engelbert Humperdinck
[02:53:41] Unknown:
and, Liberace. What about a creepy smile, dude?
[02:53:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Engelbert Humperdink. You know, it's just Yes. Where are the where are acts like that these days?
[02:53:57] Unknown:
I mean, I'd welcome Let's not welcome Engelbert back. Engelbert. Engelbert,
[02:54:03] Unknown:
I'm tick. Well, he's he went around for years getting nowhere called something like Ray Davies or something like that, wasn't he? Or Stan, something. I can't remember what he was called, but as soon as his manager changed his name to that, people just turned up. They thought it was a a novelty act. Yeah. And and he had those enormous sideburns, didn't he? And those massive lapels and big That was the seventies. Seventies. Yeah. I'm feeling a bit ill as I'm thinking back to this. I think I've told you, you know, back in back in back as I mentioned before, there was a there was a gig in Leeds in 1969 or '68, at the Merion Center, which is probably still there. It was like a sort of advanced shopping center for for Northern Herberts. And, although they did have a a bakery in there that used to sell iced buttered lemon buns, which we used to call cardiac arrest things. They were just pure sugar. They were amazing. They were absolutely amazing buns. You can't get them anymore. Anyway, I don't know why I'm talking about that. I always tend to drift over towards buns when I'm talking about things. But they had a gig, and, top of the bill, was Engelbert Engelbert Humperdinck, which is great. But the act is when he had a lot of acts. And the act that was on immediately before him was the Jimi Hendrix experience.
I'm serious. I'm serious. Just go it's true. It's absolutely true because my mate's brother was able to go. He was about 17 at the time. He's about five or six years older than us and he went and, he kept a copy of it. And I just remember looking at it when I was about 15 going that can't be right. I mean, it's just that's the weirdest thing ever, you know. So Arnold George Dorsey says Aunt Sally. That's Engelbert's real name. Oh, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, that's quite a nice name. Arnold George Dorsey. Thanks for that, Aunt Sally. That's great.
[02:55:48] Unknown:
Yeah. My sister, who's much older than me, she was really into record buying and, the, pirate radios. Because pirate radios didn't last for a long time. And she got a I think she bought a I don't know if it's her or, my cousin bought a record by Snotty in the Nosepickers. Has anybody ever heard of that group? Snotty in the Nosepickers. Surprisingly, no, actually, Eric. That's that's a That was a genuine group. That was a genuine group called Snotty in the Nosepickers.
[02:56:17] Unknown:
Are they still around?
[02:56:20] Unknown:
Are they still Epic Geriatric
[02:56:22] Unknown:
hockey men's clubs.
[02:56:24] Unknown:
It's gonna be on their Zimmer frames. A bit of teeth the teeth coming out.
[02:56:31] Unknown:
It's a grief.
[02:56:32] Unknown:
Yes. But
[02:56:33] Unknown:
Can you I mean, do you want to end at eleven? I think we keep talking about that. We're we're on a roll here. But if if you want to end, we should probably end on a suitably awful song if you want to think of one. If you can think of something really awkward and unpleasant, it it won't be too bad to finish on a really bad song. Anybody got a a pick?
[02:56:50] Unknown:
What about the the song that really makes you cringe? And,
[02:56:55] Unknown:
it has to I sent I sent you one. You've got a leaky you one on Telegram. Note.
[02:57:01] Unknown:
Couldn't we find something by Engelbert?
[02:57:04] Unknown:
No. Engelbert Humpening. No. No. Uncle Dave. Play uncle Dave. I sent it to you in Telegram. Do you think Alright. Uncle Dave. Uncle Dave Macomb.
[02:57:13] Unknown:
Paul, do you think I'm gonna read the joke I read to you before? Do you think it's late enough beyond prime time that we can get away with that? The joke I can't remember is
[02:57:25] Unknown:
Tell your tell your joke. Whatever you do, tell that joke. Go on. Tell it.
[02:57:30] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. After twenty years as a successful gynecologist, his doctor grew tired of dealing with malpractice insurance and endless HMO paperwork. Even though medicine was all he'd ever known, he decided it was about time for a career change. And since he'd always been good with his hands, he thought becoming a mechanic might be a good fit. We enrolled in evening classes at a local technical college. He attended diligently and absorbed everything he could about automotive repair. When the practical exam arrived, he carefully prepared. He executed each step with precision.
Weeks later, he received his results and was shocked to see a score of a 50% on his final. Thinking there must be a mistake, he called the instructor. And he says, I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but I just wanted to check if there was an error in my grade. The instructor chuckled. No. Not at all. You disassembled the engine flawlessly. That earned you 50%. Then you reassembled it perfectly. That got you another 50%. And then after a brief pause, the instructor added, and I gave you an extra 50% because I've had four point o perfect score students before, but I have never ever seen someone do that exam entirely through the muffler.
[02:59:10] Unknown:
And I think on that happy note, on that slight on that happy note, we will say, I didn't realize we we'd got a time out. So we'll wrap up here at eleven like we're meant to do, like like responsible adults will will will wrap up. Brilliant. Fantastic. Great talk talking everyone. Tricky start to today but sometimes it goes like that but lovely chats, for the last hour or so been great. We'll be back again at the same time next week everyone. Keep good. See you next Thursday 8PM in The UK, Three PM in The US and bye for now.
[03:00:13] Unknown:
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