In this episode of Health and Wellness Radio, host Joe Tippens is joined by Russ Jennings, Adam Payne, Dr. Deanna Windham, and Keith Bishop to discuss the growing issue of fraud related to the Joe Tippens protocol. They address the misuse of Joe's name and protocol by scammers who sell counterfeit products, often using deep fake videos and fraudulent websites. The discussion emphasizes the importance of purchasing only from verified sources and highlights the dangers of counterfeit medications, which may contain harmful substances. Joe and his team stress the need for individuals to consult with trusted healthcare professionals and explore integrative and functional medicine options alongside conventional treatments.
The episode also delves into the specifics of the Joe Tippens protocol, including the recommended dosages of fenbendazole and the importance of accompanying supplements. The guests discuss the role of mindset and lifestyle in cancer treatment, emphasizing the need for a positive attitude and a tailored approach to health. They also address common questions about combining the protocol with chemotherapy and other treatments, as well as the potential benefits of additional therapies like red light therapy and melatonin. Listeners are encouraged to seek guidance from qualified health practitioners and to be cautious of online scams.
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Hey. Hello, everyone. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you happen to be in the world out there today. This is Joe Tippens Facebook Live question and answer. A little housekeeping before I introduce Joe. And by the way, I'm Josh Bellier. We've got Joe Tippens. We've got Russ Jennings today, who happens to be Joe's, moderator in Facebook, Parex Launch, for years right from the beginning. Adam Payne will be in here in just a little while. Wanted to say this, you know, anything that we say on this broadcast today, for one thing, UltraBotanica, doctor Deanna Windham, Keith Bishop, who's with us as well, clinical nutritionist, doctor Deanna Windham, of Whole Human Life, They are here, we are here today not to offer medical advice. Nothing should be construed as medical advice that we are offering today.
You should go to your own healthcare practitioner that is credentialed, that you're trusting to manage your experience in your health journey, we also strongly recommend that if you're just in that world of allopathic medicine, conventional medical doctors, that you look beyond that to an integrative, a functional, a medical doctor, or a a naturopath, or someone like a clinical nutritionist like Keith Bishop that can really help hold your hand and work with your team of medical professionals. Now a lot of you are aware because we get a lot of confusing calls here at Ultra Botanica. Russ Jennings on the end handles a lot of this stuff. Joe hears about it. There's a lot going on out there that I would consider bait and switch and fraud. Everything from the sale of off label medications like fenbendazole and ivermectin to a whole bunch of things related to using Joe's name, calling it the Joe Tippens protocol or the updated Joe Tippens protocol.
So without further ado, I'm going to introduce Joe. Joe, thanks for having us here today. And, Joe, I know you and Wes Jennings are gonna have a conversation about some things that have been disturbing you and maybe a path forward.
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Okay. Well, I think you mentioned in the last podcast that a whole bunch of fraudsters have popped up, and they're preying on the most vulnerable of people out there charging 608 hundred dollars and then never shipping anything. Or if they do ship something, it's far inferior product. And, Russ Jennings joined me literally on week one when I launched the Facebook group. And, I put out a word for volunteers and thankfully, Russ was one of the volunteers that that signed up. He's been a moderator of the Facebook group since day one, which is now over 50,000 people.
In that Facebook group, we try to keep all of the multilevel marketers, the charlatans, the fraudsters out, and it is unfortunately, it's become a full time job. But, I wanna turn it over to Russ because he's done the best job of compiling all of these fraud sites, and we can even put some of them up on the screen. In in one case, it's very disgusting. They used AI to mimic my face and my voice, to sell fraudulent product or sell and never ship anything. It's really sad when I get somebody that says that I just sent $600 to these people, and
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and I didn't know. But, Joe, we can put that video up for people to see if you'd like. Yeah. Put it up. It's it it it'll surprise you. I hope this message finds you well.
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Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joe Tippens, and I am the founder of what many of you know as the Joe Tippens protocol. The purpose of today's live video is to inform you all personally that I am indeed the individual behind every post you see in this group. I understand some of you may have doubts about whether I am truly the person managing this platform, and I want to put those concerns to rest. To facilitate direct communication, I am providing two phone numbers, one for texting and another for WhatsApp. You can reach out to me via these means knowing confidently that you are indeed communicating with Joe Tippens himself.
The details are as follows. For text messages, plus +1 (510) 497-1513, or WhatsApp, plus +1 (775) 313-3866. Please feel free to contact me through these numbers. I am here to ensure that any questions or uncertainties you may have are addressed directly by me. I appreciate your continued support and engagement in our
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community. Yeah. I must say that for those of you that tuned in late, please understand what you were just watching was a deep fake, and the information that was just given is actually a fraudster that wants to take your money. So with with again, Joe, Russ, have at it. I'll I'm gonna turn it over to Russ because he's on top of this daily on the Facebook group.
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Yeah. Thanks for having me here today. Yeah. The video you just saw popped up, oh, I can't remember. It was about six months ago. One of the first scam groups that, showed up on Facebook using Joe's name is called Joe's, Joe Tippen's protocol, with a period at the end of it. There's several of them out there. But then the altered video showed up, which kinda raised it to a new level. So the scammers are starting to learn how to use AI. They're using that to put together their post in their group. Now they're doing the video, and and who knows where it'll go from here. But, one of the other groups you see there on the screen, the lung cancer survivor, the Joe Tippens protocol slash cancer.
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Let's see. Yeah.
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Cancer support community. They're now getting into ivermectin, because of all the attention ivermectin is getting. They started forming these groups. And that ivermectin group is the same people that are doing the Joe Tippens protocol groups. They use the same phone numbers, pretty much the same thing.
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And They they even commandeered my phone, stole a picture of my driver's license, and they post my driver's license to say, see, I'm the real Joe Tippens. It's really insane.
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Yeah. They've used all of Joe's pictures from his personal page and then, to put in there for their profiles. So it really is becoming rampant. And we spend me and the other admins, we probably spend several hours a day just chasing down the scammers. This scammers are are rampant on Facebook. It's not just this, but across the board, all the other groups I'm in that aren't cancer related, We have the same issue with scammers. So Yeah. Ultimately, what it comes down to is don't buy anything from anyone on Facebook. Whether it's a profile, a group, or a page on Facebook, don't send your money because it's probably a scammer nowadays.
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Yeah. I would make it real simple. If it's not from our Facebook group, which is My Cancer Story Rocks Facebook group, or it's not directly on the blog itself at mycancerstory.rocks, then there's a 99% chance it's a fraud. I'd like to Yeah. I'd like to also say and this goes to the world we're living in with AI. We have thousands of people every month that refer to the old original protocol from eight years ago. And it's all out of date. The current protocol is on the mycancerstory. Rocks at protocol tab at the top of of the blog. And everything else is well outdated.
Any references to just plain CBD or without understanding that there's hundreds of subtypes of cannabinoids, or vitamin e, which I eliminated almost six months after I wrote the original blog. And I eliminated that for a reason, but you'll see that people can continue to come up with the Joe Tippens protocol, which is not the protocol because it was the protocol from eight years ago. And SEO people are continually leeching back to that original protocol eight years ago and then building on it. So please, everybody remember that the current protocol is the protocol, and it is not the one from eight years ago. And it's at, at a tab at the top of the blog at mycancerstory.rocks.
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And Joe and Russ, may I just say one thing? You know, Joe, you mentioned the word fraud, but we're all very deeply concerned. There are individuals out there that are actually selling things that they are calling Finbendazole, they're calling doxycycline and ivermectin and all these things on the Internet that are not that, that are contaminated products, that are not tested for label claim. It's very easy for these people to provide you with a certificate of analysis that they have put together. You saw the video with Joe's face on it. So we're very concerned about your physical health as well, and we don't want you to be taking something that could actually harm you as well. So please be aware of that. When it comes to online purchases, it's a very dangerous world out there.
Lots of counterfeits to a lot of things out there.
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Yeah. And just to follow-up on that, Josh, Joe only recommends Merck products, and there's a reason for that. Merck is a large company. They test everything multiple times before it ever goes into a bottle and is put out on the market. These other products that are popping up that say they're 99% pure, the only way you would ever know if it's 99% pure is to take that yourself, take it to a lab, and have it tested. You don't know if these people are in their garage mixing this stuff up, and we have tested some of those products that are out there, and they're substantially less than the 99% that they claim.
And there's no telling what they might be mixing it with. It could be drywall powder. It could be sodium bicarbonate. It could be sugar.
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There's just no way to know unless you have it tested. And it most likely is made in a facility that's not FDA approved.
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Yeah. And So I'm I'm gonna join I'm gonna add Deanna and Keith here for if they have any comments on fraud that they've seen in in the background. Okay. Yeah. And I and I and I wanna mention again that you can get online, and you can actually find packaging that looks like Merck. It's very easy for them to take the front of a Safeguard or a panicure seat box or a bottle of the liquid that someone might purchase out there for an animal and go ahead and put that on their website as a way to tell you, hey, We're sending you the genuine thing. So it it's a it's a very, very slippery slope. Well, here's an easy one. When somebody says I'm taking the Fenben pills,
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I know it's a fraud Right. Because they don't nobody that's not a fraud makes it in pill form.
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Deanna, you're muted, by the way. Keith, what what, do you have any comments to the fraud that you've seen?
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Well, I I do matter of fact, each week, I do have somebody that mentions, I bought my Finbin from Joe, you know, or my or my supplements from Joe. And so, you know, I've I've let him know. And then and I have heard several people saying that they spent $600
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and never received anything back. I have about two or three a week that tell me they've lost $600. Mhmm.
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Yeah. It's really nice. Also have several people a week that tell me that I, I see maybe two new cancer patients a day, and then I maintain multiple cancer patients. And I several times a week, if not once a day, I have people that stay they're they're on the Joe Tippens protocol, and I ask, where did you get it? Where are you getting it from? And at least 50% of the time, it is not valid. And I want everyone to know this. It is illegal for any company to put an animal medication into a pill and sell it to a human. That is a % illegal. It is also illegal for any company to take a prescription medication and sell it to you without a prescription.
So if you are getting ivermectin or fenbendazole from any place, except the pharmaceutical companies that make them, it is not fenbendazole or ivermectin because what isn't illegal is to put sugar or salt or flour or whatever they want or sand in those pills and say it's finbenzol or ivermectin. That is not illegal. So the fact that they're still operating tells me that what's in those pills is not finbenzol or ivermectin. They would have already been shut down shut down by the FDA and the FTC.
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Yeah.
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I think we've covered that pretty well. Now we can, move into the q q and a. Yeah. We'd like to move on to a group of questions that came in, and thank you so much for submitting those questions. Joe, I think we're gonna kick it off under a category of the supplement protocol and dosage, and we do understand there are new people joining us us now. You may have heard from a friend. You may be watching with a friend, and you may have never read Joe's blog. Joe, I do want to encourage people for them to go to your blog and read your blog, mycancerstory.rox. That's very important because that gives you the opportunity to then ask if you can join Joe's Facebook page and you're joining something that's well moderated, that's going to give you some good information that's not going to be hearsay, it's not going to be propaganda that's out there or something that could harm you. Joe, we've got a question from Larry A. I guess his handle is Superman.
He says he wants clarification on the updated supplement stack and the rationale behind replacing vitamin e, CBD, and curcumin. I think you started into that a minute ago. Yeah. That is the original protocol from eight years ago.
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And I eliminated vitamin a vitamin e for a specific purpose. There's just too many cases where the blood thinning is is contradictory. It it can contradict other things that traditional doctors wanna do and can contradict even the the protocol. And the CBD that I originally recommended eight years ago just wasn't the right CBD. And the curcumin that I recommended eight years ago, only 15% got absorbed into the system. When I met Adam, six years ago, I a light bulb went off. Adam's company takes anything that's not absorbable and makes it absorbable.
And it was a game changing, knowledge for me that I could get curcumin to absorb up to eighty, eighty, 80 five percent into the bloodstream as opposed to what you buy at the off the counter at CVS or Walgreens, maybe less than 2% absorbs into the bloodstream. So every one of the Onco adjuncts that we've added to the protocol were added for a reason. And, I don't wanna go into the details, but, for example, on the CBD, Adams and the the research determined that it was only certain cannabinoids that affected cancer. And they've isolated those cannabinoids on the Kirk, and they've added c sixty and and, frankincense. And we could go into a long reason why, but there is a specific research reason why.
And with respect to Onco two, the curcumin, we now have, in addition to that, quercetin added to that product. And the berberine, which really, I think, replaces metformin as a for lowering blood sugar, it was added for a reason. So all of the four Onco products are there for a reason. And, I highly recommend everybody, in addition to the fenbendazole dose, they take, each of the other four Onco products. And the dose, I started out eight years ago with faulty research that said fenbendazole could really be damaging to the liver. So I started out with three days a week and four days off.
Then I found research I found the research that said it could damage your liver, and that research was based on a dosage of one thousand x, what we're recommending here. Well, you take anything at one thousand x, and you're gonna cause problems. And more importantly, Johns Hopkins did complete a, toxicity trial that determined five hundred milligrams a day long term is safe. So those are why we did that. Now with respect to dosage, we now recommend two hundred and twenty two milligrams a day, seven days a week for active cancer. And because there's millions of people across the globe toying around with this, lots of people have have experimented with higher dosages, doubling and tripling and quadrupling the dosage.
And and I asked those people to report to me any side effects or problems or liver enzyme problems and yet have found any. So, I am confident today that because of the toxicity trial said five hundred milligrams a day is safe, I'm confident that doubling the doses to four hundred and forty four milligrams a day is safe if people wanna try that. Yeah. And, Joe, you always recommend individuals, because it's an inexpensive
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safeguard, to go in and get their liver enzymes checked. You know? Sixty, ninety days, your doctor will recommend that. If you've got insurance, you can say, I'd like to do that. And so that's the and you're paying out of pocket for that is very inexpensive as well. I'd I'd also just like to briefly mention, if you notice Adam and I being strangely silent as it relates to talking much about the Onco products, We're only allowed under FTC and FDA regulations to call those an adjunctive supplement protocol. At the end of the day, even though we initially were a biotech company, we're a supplement manufacturing company that formulates, does unique innovations with patented technology, as Joe referenced.
But the reality is we can't get into saying certain things online. So,
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Joe But, Diana and Keith can certainly talk about them in a more in a little bit of water. Maybe just in in response to, dosing and the utility of fenbendazole and the pathway products. Deanna and Keith, how do you guys approach, dosing your patients or making recommendations in terms of these, these products and other things that you might take into consideration? Maybe, Deanna, you can start.
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Yeah. So, I I have a, what I call a foundational protocol in cancer, and, I put I typically recommend that, or or, suggest that all people with cancer be on this foundational protocol. And the foundational protocol includes the Joe Tippens protocol in it with the finbendazole, the four UltraBotanica products. And, those are super powerful. I do a I use them by the dosing that's on the labels, so I don't vary from that very much. And the finbendazole, I typically use two twenty two once or twice a day. I do not I have never ever recommended that people go above that. The, as Joe said, the research just doesn't support it. What we know so far, it works at that dosage. There's no reason to push it farther. You don't get better benefit from more. Exactly. So the fenbendazole two twenty two twice a day, the the supplements is recommended.
That is a very powerful way to start in cancer.
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Kathy r asked, is fenbendazole effective alone or the additional supplements necessary? That's a loaded question. Out of the out of the five thousand success cases that I know of today other than me, I'm I bet you at least five hundred or a thousand of them did Fenben only and had success. However, I think that the four Onco, adjuncts are game changers in terms of increasing the efficacy.
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Yeah. And Kathy's question is so loaded because and I think that Deanna and Keith could could speak to this as well. It's a very loaded question because many people are on chemotherapeutic drugs. They may be on radiation. They may be on immunotherapy. And so supplements and those things combined have their own unique experience with every individual. And and so I think it's important when you ask a question like that, you can't just give a shotgun answer like that because a health professional like Keith or Deanna is gonna take a health history and take into consideration these other things. Is there any, response or comment from you, Keith or Deanna, as it related to what I just said?
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Sure. The, I think it's important. Cancer, you know, cells a matter of fact, almost any health issue, there's more than just one cause or one particular step that we need to take care of. So, you know, fimbendizole does have a few different activities in the cancer cells, while each of these other supplements have other benefits. For example, most of them just one of the benefits of almost every single one of these ingredients is reducing inflammation issues in the body, and and inflammation is a driver of cancer. So if we don't address the underlying issue going on in the body, some practitioners will call that the terrain or I'll call it the environment inside the body.
You know, we may kinda knock the cancer down, but we're may not be able to get to some of the the stem cells and the cells that are sleeping and hiding out. So we have to, you know, kinda hit it from several different mechanisms. That's why, actually, you know, we have anti inflammatory, blood glucose control, you know, growth inhibitors, and and and various different things in these supplements to work in addition to you know, even in oncology, they don't give you one chemotherapy drug. They give you two or three things now, maybe even more because cancer cells can adapt to just one particular item.
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Yeah.
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Thanks, Keith. Let's move on to cancer prevention and maintenance. Two things. Once you're NED, no evidence of disease for, I believe, at least two years. I think you should go on a maintenance protocol of three days on and four days off. And even still, maybe you wanna pulse two weeks on and two weeks off. I don't think there's a real a need for you to stay on it seven days a week indefinitely. And I constantly get asked the question, what if I just wanna take it as a preventative medicine? And I believe the downside risk is so low, if not zero, that anybody wants to take Fenbenzole and this entire protocol three days a week, as a preventative, it's the downside risk is zero, and there's ample evidence of upside. So I'd say why not?
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Doctor Windham, anything any comments on that in terms of maintenance?
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Yeah. I typically do. Cancer has the reason that fenbendazole works for some people and not others is because cancers typically has 10 aspects of cancer. And between fenbendazole and the four supplements, I do a sensitivity test for cancer cells, And I see that those five things are treating about eighty percent of the epigenetic changes and, the, pathways that can that most common, that are most commonly used in cancer. And so once people are through that, they're, if they're not working with a doctor or integrative practitioner, then I usually recommend doing the protocol three days a week. So that's what we go to, unless they're doing circulating tumor cell testing or working with a practitioner that has a a better eye on what is happening with them.
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Thanks.
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Well, there's quite a few questions here on that all cover that same question. Right. So, somebody asked, about combining with conventional treatments.
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We had at least three questions there talking about combining with chemotherapy, and is there any risk for organ damage? Diana asked and Melissa asked, is there, specifically about combining fenbendazole and, chemotherapy for lymphoma?
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Well
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Joe? First of all,
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I have yet to find a cancer subtype that it hasn't worked on. So when people keep asking about different subtypes of cancer, it's a little frustrating. However, there is one caution that, your Onco two product should not be taken on the day before, day of, and day after active chemo because it could negatively impact the chemo itself. Broadly, I recommend to people to take my protocol concurrent with and parallel to anything and everything traditional oncologist, wanna throw at it, because I don't think it'll contradict what they're doing, and I don't think there's any downside risk to to doing that.
Now somebody asked Lynn Lindsey asked, does fin is can you use phen phenbos on chemotherapy days? Absolutely. I don't think there's reason to stop because you're on chemo. The only exception is the Onco two curcumin product.
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And and, there are circumstances where Onco2 can be compatible and might synergize chemo, but those are the questions that, clinical nutritionists like Keith Bishop or Deanna can answer. But but we don't wanna don't please don't take the risk of combining, pathway two with, chemotherapy unless you get qualified health advice from, clinical nutritionists, naturopath, or a functional MD like doctor Windham.
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So quite a few questions have come in about, ivermectin. And I'm not anti ivermectin. I just believe we need to be focused on our protocol only. And if somebody wants to add ivermectin to the protocol, they should they should do that. I'm not recommending it, but that doesn't mean somebody shouldn't do it. I I don't believe there's risk of organ damage, combining chemo and Fenben. And I'm pretty sure, people stick to the protocol as dosed in the blog at on the protocol tab, the downside risk is very, very low. And kinda rule number one of medicine is that don't make it worse. And I don't believe this protocol is gonna make anything worse. I'd like to circle back to Keith and Deanna on that last topic that we had combining with conventional treatments.
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What I found missing from some of the answers, and I'd love for you to address that, is we do understand that there are risks associated with chemotherapy. We're all aware of that. We know it is the recommended protocol under standard of care. But I think one of the things that I would love to hear addressed is, are there natural substances that one can take that if you're undergoing chemo, you now have something that's actually nourishing the immune system of the body or helping to protect the immune system while it's taking the assault of the chemotherapy that's being done.
Deanna Keith?
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Hi there. Okay. So, I about 70 of the people that I work with are doing a combination of, of, traditional, therapies along with their integrative therapies, and about thirty percent or so are doing just an integrative protocol. And so we actually have a lot of information on peep and I'm not the only one. There is a lot of research on this. There are a lot of doctors around the country that are treating cancer integratively and doing research on it. What we know is if you are on supplements while you are doing chemotherapy, that the chemotherapy works better, has longer lasting impact, and has lower rates of side effects.
And I have not personally seen any interactions. There are I mean, that's not true. Sorry. Let me back up a little bit. I haven't seen very many interactions, and the ones that are there are ones that we will typically tell you about, before you go in. But this but as far as fenbendazole, I haven't seen any but anything that I've had to worry about except when a chemotherapy drug itself is damaging the liver. And then it makes it hard for anything to pass through the liver, but that's not because fenbendazole is a problem. That makes sense. Right. Very good. That was an excellent And I just wanna put one warning out there. We've had a couple of, people
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like you know, they think one is good, two is better, three is amazing. There are a lot we've had a number of reports where people are combining fenbendazole, mebendazole, and ivermectin, And that, we've learned is actually neurotoxic. People lose sense of reality, they become disoriented progressively, so it does it's not like it happens overnight. So people might think that they're, they're having progressive dementia or Alzheimer's disease. No. If you take all three together, you're actually creating a neurotoxic cocktail.
So don't do that, please. Yeah. We mentioned that based on a personal experience, and I'll leave it at that. Two people that we that we know that, had had done that. And it seems logical. Wow. I'm gonna be all I've I'm gonna defend Ben, mebendazole, and ivermectin. It's very expensive to do all three, but there's no utility and it actually causes neurotoxicity.
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So Right.
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Let's let's move on.
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So I the question keeps coming up, Fenben versus Meiben. And I've done a mountain of research myself, and I happen to believe, and this is just one man's opinion from my own experience, that FinBEN, has some functions that MiBin doesn't have. And I think the primary one is in the the third pathway that we know Fenben works is producing healthy new wild type p 53, the cancer killing gene. That that FinBin is superior to MeBin for that third. Knocking out microtubules and interrupting the cancer cell's ability to metabolize sugar, MiBin and Fenben are probably about the same.
The only confusion happens because MiBin has been FDA approved and Fenben has not. But for me, I would and if if I had cancer again tomorrow, I would, go back to seven days a week of fenbendazole instead of three days a week.
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Yep.
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Diet and lifestyle. Boy. This is one that I always get a chuckle out of because I didn't practice what I preached. You know? Yes. If if if you can do anything that'll lower blood sugar, you should do it. I think Keith and Diana would agree with me. But I have I've always just eaten what I wanted to eat, lived the lifestyle I wanted to live, and it's worked for me and thousands of others. So I I in a perfect world, you should, change your your diet habit and your workout habit to, lower your blood sugar as as much as possible.
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Yeah. There is a there's so much evidence to support the fact that cancer is not a somatic disease a somatic genomic disease, but it's actually a metabolic response to, a very hostile environment where which results in damaged mitochondria and then a number of adaptations that more represent an ancient presentation of cells rather than our modern presentation of cells.
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Yeah. No. That's alright.
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Sorry. It's okay. And so what we're seeing here is that cancer cells are only out for their own survival. They're not out for the survival of of the body. And we, and that's what we're fighting. We're fighting an ancient foe that is, trying to take over and survive in a very hostile environment.
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Joe, I'd like to bring up something that I've heard you mentioned before and having been on the phone with hundreds of people, and and Keith and Deanna may wanna weigh in on this as well. Joe, it's almost as if when I meet someone on the phone or in person that's on this journey, their attitude and the way they are approaching this from a mental and a spiritual standpoint can almost seemingly be the determining factor of the trajectory of their journey to back to health. Would you address that for a moment? Because I know this is a big part of your DNA. Yeah. Well, so,
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I didn't learn about, Bruce Lipton and his, book, The Biology of Belief until after I was in remission and had no cancer. But looking back with hindsight being twenty twenty, I came to the conclusion that some percentage of my success, which I I can't quantify, but some percentage of my success was that I'm just wired to be positive. Mhmm. And the day after I was told that I had three to six months to live, go home and hire hospice, get your affairs in order, say your goodbyes, I can't explain why to anybody, but I was a % positive that they were full of it.
And and and then I look back with hindsight being twenty twenty after reading doctor Lipton's book and watching his two and a half hour, lecture on YouTube, which I highly recommend everybody do. His lectures on YouTube range from a half hour to an hour to hour and a half to two and a half. I recommend everybody watch the two and a half hour version because this guy scientifically has proven that your thoughts coming out of your brain affect you at the cellular level. Mhmm. And I think that's on the positive side. I infer from that, maybe somebody can correct me, but I also think that if if you're generally negative, that's also going to affect you at the cellular level and not in a good way.
So, I really believe, constant positive vibes
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affect cancer. I really do. I really do. And, Adam, you and I have been attending conferences over and over for the last three years, and one of the recurring themes at at these conferences is that almost every doctor that we see that gets up and begins to talk about protocols related to autoimmune or cancer or anything else, they say, oh, and there's been a component we've been missing within our practices for years that now we literally have people in house helping individuals with their emotions, with trauma, with unforgiveness and bitterness because we're seeing a direct correlation in our own practices of the attitude, as Joe references with Bruce Lipton, and the degree
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of how quickly they begin to heal. Right? There's there's a definitely a spiritual emotional aspect to the the disease itself, that manifests itself in, in in energy and cellular behaviors that, can result in cancer. And in some circumstances, cancers are not resolving because people have a very negative attitude about life So and are just resigned.
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Peggy, see. Deanna. No. Here's a lot of Gotcha. Yeah. Peggy and Kathy just asked again What's the yeah. What's the video? So the guy's name is Bruce Lipton, like the t, and his, lectures and book are called the Biology of Belief. And the two and a half hour lecture out on YouTube is is the one I recommend.
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That's good. Yeah. I I suspect the Or go to the trouble to read the book. Right. There is actually a very strong connection to,
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what we eat and and how we how we live the our our positive or negative attitudes, but also the foods that we eat. Keith and Deanna, maybe a couple of comments about your metabolic approach to cancer in regards to Joe's protocol and your recommendations to, to people.
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Well, I typically will try to address the metabolic aspect, including blood glucose, and physical activity exercise. Although we we have to be careful, a lot of people are doing an extreme keto or carnivore and, and or removing too many food groups, from their their diet. And so, like, some people may be just doing juicing. And, and so that can actually create and, actually, a lot of my clients that I see for the first time are actually physically and therefore, even emotionally, in a bad spot because they're actually they're malnourished and because they are not eating, appropriately and getting the right balance of proteins and fats and carbs. So but we do have to be careful. I'm a big, tester.
I love to evaluate body composition and follow that, make sure that we're maintaining our muscle and bone tissue, and we've if we lose a little fat, that can be okay. But even blood glucose levels and ketones, but following that to figure out and, But everybody's different, so we always have to make these adjustments, you know, for that. It's a a very important part of of this whole picture of not just the the Fenben and supplements, but also our lifestyle and spiritual and emotional health.
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Yeah. Thanks, Keith. Deanna, would you weigh in on that? By the way, that's Keith Bishop of PrevailOverCancer.com, a beautiful website with a lot of good free information for you to kind of set your compass toward a health journey.
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And I would say also that, the Prevail over Cancer site has so much information. I send every single one of my cancer patients to Keith Bishop's website. He is my go to person for diet in cancer. And, whenever I'm addressing cancer, there are actually five aspects of cancer that we need to be looking at or five aspects of things that contribute to cancer. And what's great about the Joe Tippens protocol is that that protocol is actually addressing pieces of all of those parts, which is why it works for a lot of people. But if it's not working for people, then it's because it's what the cancer that you have or the cancer that's in your body is not being addressed by this protocol, we're missing something, that's the time to bring in help.
And, and I also wanted to say that the mind is one of those five categories, and I address with every single person in the first visit or two. We are talking about mindset. How do you feel? What are you thinking? What do you believe? I you cannot heal from cancer if you believe that you can't. You have to believe that you can do anything or you can't do it. It was Napoleon Hill that said whatever you believe is true. I mean, whatever you believe you can achieve,
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you have to believe it. Yeah. And that's doctor Deanna Windham of wholehumanlife.com. We appreciate Keith and Deanna's con contributions here to set the table for you on your health journey. Somebody asked,
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effectiveness of liquid and paste forms of Panacure and Safeguard. I've got some great stories about that. I've got Do people using it topically too? I've got dozens of successes of people putting the paste form topically directly on skin cancers and having amazing results almost immediately. And, of course, over the years, I've had a lot of people on feeding tubes that really just couldn't do the powder. And the liquid form is perfect for people on a feeding tube or have problems with swallowing
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the the powder. Yeah. Make sure you do the math correctly when you're going into these pastes and these liquids. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because they are typically,
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a milligram per milliliter of liquid, for example. And so you would need two and a half or five four, milliliters to get the, four hundred milligrams.
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So you just have to do the the adjustment on the So divide divide by 10. So the safeguard liquid for goats and cattle has been, when I when I had cancer two years ago, I used the, for goats and, and cattle. It's a hundred milligrams per ml in a one liter bottle. It's only a hundred and $60 on Amazon and that's that one bottle was enough from over a year's worth of taking two hundred and twenty two milligrams a day, very cost effective and very easy to dose. Just half a tablespoon was enough, for me. And, and certainly, it's a Merck product, so you get something that's high quality and getting the right dose is super, super helpful.
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Correct.
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So there's a there's a category at the bottom here, and perhaps Keith and Diana can weigh in on this. You know, there's a lot of we we hear this from the circles that we run-in. Adam and I do with inter integrated functional orthomolecular
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Complimentary therapy. Yeah.
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People talking about red light therapies, methylene blue, melatonin, a whole host of adjunctive therapies that are out there and that people are using, and they're using it under the auspices of a recommendation from their health practitioners such as a Keith or such as a Deanna Wyndham. I don't want to discard those. I have plenty of people that I speak with. I know they do as well, and they recommend we want you to know. Deanna is so kind to to to have having looked at the products we have saying they really move in this 80% realm of addressing a broad number of these things. But we want to let you know we here we're not the people that are the one stop shop for everything in the world. There's so many other things that are being recommended by other clinicians out there, health practitioners that have boots on the ground information and research that can also help you, which is why we say, please add someone to your team like a Keith, like a Deanna, or someone else. And, you know, Keith, Deanna, any comments there?
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I've been trying to answer the the posts that that are coming through for people. I've noticed that. Thank you. Yeah. So,
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you were asking about, I'm sorry. I got a little bit distracted. Many, there's so many other therapies that are being recommended by practitioners like yourself that may fall outside that eighty percent group you mentioned. I think there are many, actually. Oh, yes. And we and we never want people to think that we claim all the answers. We don't. There's great practitioners doing amazing things out there. I've always said that the last twenty plus years, I've studied this unique health condition called cancer. I've seen so many people make it through their journey to the other side without all kinds of things that we're aware of today. So it it's quite remarkable.
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It is. And I see I see a lot of good practitioners too doing a lot of therapies, like, from onKNP. I just want people to have a tailored personalized approach to cancer and not a hodgepodge approach. That's my big thing. Don't do hodgepodge Agreed. Do a tailored approach to you. That's always the best. Yeah. I think the the key here is that,
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there are tools that are avail that, integrated physicians, functional doctors like Doctor. Wyndham have at their disposal that can actually look at cellular response to different, to these different, nutraceutical interventions and to, different chemotherapeutic interventions and can measure the susceptibilities and the the actual nature of the metabolic dysfunction, with these different cancers. And and then they can adjust and they can pivot. Yeah. We They can add new things or take things away as they see fit. We provide to physicians actually a very comprehensive analysis of over a hundred different cancers that gives them the ability to start a, their dosing protocols with our stuff and with fenbendazole, in order to tailor the dosing to the cancer.
And I think that's, starting with, the Joe Tippens protocol is a great start, but getting specific recommendations from a clinical nutritionist and or a functional doctor is super important. I also wanna mention, because, I think this is really important, If if anybody is on disability or on social security with with a limited income, we at UltraBotanica have programs to significantly discount our products to you. You just need to call us, and, we have a simple evaluation that you can do. We wanna make sure that if you are deciding to do the Joe Tippens protocol, that it's always available and affordable.
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So I just saw several questions come up to people confused about what we just said about liquid and paste. Sure. Go ahead. So so liquid if you wanna take five hundred milligrams, that is one teaspoon of the liquid. If you wanna take two hundred and fifty milligrams, it's a half a teaspoon. And somebody asked about, the paste form on a basal cell carcinoma. I mean, the the people that I know have had success with it, they just put some on their finger and just rubbed it on the on the cancer twice a day. And it it really wasn't a dosage. It was just enough to cover, the actual cancer spot.
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That's good to know. It's, so it doesn't just work, systemically. It works actually topically.
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I've seen that too. Yep. There there's there's a company there's a question here related to us, Adam, doing any kind of collaborations with medical professionals and things. We're very welcome to that. We're open to that all the time. A lot of the people we interact with, Adam, are so very busy that as much as they'd like to work directly with us and build relationship to do things and do research, it has been a difficult challenge. And that's why you've engaged, your friends over at the Benbrook Laboratories under the OU Health Sciences Center to do some ongoing research related to cannabinoids at this time. And and so to help kind of validate and set the frame for what Joe started out with is there's CBD, and there's all kinds of CBD, and then there's what these people have been doing with cannabinoids.
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You wanna address that, Adam? Sure. I'd just, we have active ongoing research with the University of Oklahoma out of Doris Benbrook's labs under Vishal, doctor Vishal and his group, where we're researching, all of these different fractions of frankincense, and we're also continuing our research on the cannabinoids where we have, started research with HK LAN a number of years ago, identifying that it's the acidic cannabinoids that really are responsible for a beneficial biological action in cancer. And there are also very specific fractions of frankincense that, are beneficial. And there are a number of fractions of frankincense that are not beneficial, including different cultivars. So we our current formulation of pathway one is the beneficial cannabinoids and it is the correct fractions of and the correct species of frankincense in order to provide optimal benefit. The ongoing research at the University of Oklahoma is certainly exciting, but we also have collaborations with the Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health out of Arizona, Doctor. Nisha Winters and her crew of a couple of hundred naturopaths and doctors that are adhering to the metabolic approach to cancer and her fellowship which is the Metabolic Training Institute of Health are adopting our analytical methods and our ways of bending different cancers into different metabolic derangements, and then utilizing supplements like pathways one, two, three and four to address those derangements specifically is in alignment with what, doctor Wyndham is doing with, DITAR and RGCC as liquid biopsies.
There are so many different collaborations we have. We are, and we're open to other collaborations. If you are a medical professional and you are interested in expanding, our knowledge base of how these different, supplements work in a clinical population, we're very open to collaboration and would welcome a phone call and a discussion. I just asked if Pathway four is resveratrol only. No. Pathway four is a combination of three ingredients that use our protozorb, what we used to call LPS technology. It is resveratrol bound to brown rice protein. It's EGCG bound to brown rice protein and a little known polyphenol called fisetin, which is a very powerful polyphenol also bound to brown rice protein. And then we add in a highly purified beta glucans from a company called Imudyne, to finish it off. The combination of these four ingredients, we believe, is synergistic around different hypoxic and stem cell proliferation pathways, helping our body to get rid of cancer cells that are proliferating and shutting down both inflammation and proliferation pathways in different cancers by utilizing different mechanisms that are, are that these cancers are vulnerable to.
Ultimately, we're not asking we don't understand that some of the science of how these, ingredients work is is, can be daunting. That's why we provide resources to folks like doctor, Wyndham and and Keith Bishop to help navigate these questions, with the patients. Peggy Sue asked if she could buy your products in Europe. You can. We actually, if you, go to our website, you can, place an order. We're actually gonna have, delivery duties prepaid available in the next month on our website. Right now, when you order, it will be delivered by, DHL, and you will be responsible for the duties when as it enters the country.
Stay tuned for, having duties prepaid, which is a much less expensive option in the next short amount of time. Yeah. Just be expectant that the current option does
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come with a little bit of a surprising price tag, what they're charging for those duties. Yeah. We actually have a
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a distribution point within, Europe. And, so the the shipping charges are much less for most people. Great. Thanks, Adam, for that.
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This one right here is the website, Finbendazole, Joe Tippen's Protocol. That is one of the fraud sites.
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Let's see if we yeah. I can't I don't know if we can go up there. There we go.
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Oh. So so, Joe, shall we reemphasize at this point in time that you say there's two places that people can find you. They can find you at mycancerstory.rox, which is your original blog. That's spelled the word my, c a n c e r s t o r y, with a period and then r o c k s. And then by reading that blog, they can then gain access to your Facebook page. Is that correct? Well, with an exception. Okay. Because
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there are so many attempts at fraud and multilevel marketers, people like Russ was my my lead moderator. They're very, serious about keeping those people out on the front end. Right. And so in order to gain access to the Facebook group, you have to answer multiple questions and prove that you actually have read the blog before you try to join. And through that, we have a password embedded in the blog, and we change it regularly. It's amazing. We last changed the the password sixty days ago, and it's already out of date, and the fraudsters have figured it out. Okay. So there is a test at the end of the lecture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you have to prove that you've read the blog, and we only allow direct cancer patients and direct caregivers to paint to cancer patients.
We don't let just anybody in there. And I've seen here one of the questions, where can I see some of the success stories? So in the Facebook group with over 50,000 people, the hashtag positive progress is used to report good results. And you can also read through all of the posts on the Facebook group and see where it hasn't worked for people. Right. And it's very transparent about what surrounds my blog, not any alternative cancer, not any other idea. We try to keep it focused.
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Yeah. It's a good thing. Are there any other questions that we have here? It looks like we've covered the, what's what was, sent out, Joe. We have more here.
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Joe, for those that joined late, we started this. I highly recommend as the link gets posted for this particular, a Q and A session. I'm sure it's gonna be posted on Joe's Facebook page, but also posted on the blog. Share it with your friends or loved ones that need that basic education that came out of this pod or this particular Q and A, Facebook q and a today. It's very important. And you may wanna go ahead and rewatch it if you joined late because this started out with a deep concern that Joe and his lead moderator had regarding people purchasing counterfeit product, fraud product, deep fake videos of Joe himself saying, this is me. This is my website. Buy from me. And it wasn't, Joe.
So please share with your friends. Give the warnings necessary. Let's keep people safe, and let's keep their money in their own pocket to be able to be spent on something where they will get something rather than being conned and losing 6 or $800 a pop. Correct. Yep. Joe, any final words? No. I'm I think that we've covered a lot here today. Yeah. Right. Wherever you are in the world, thanks for joining us. Joe, thank you for inviting us in today. We appreciate that so much. You're welcome. Thank you.
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Hey. Hello, everyone. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you happen to be in the world out there today. This is Joe Tippens Facebook Live question and answer. A little housekeeping before I introduce Joe. And by the way, I'm Josh Bellier. We've got Joe Tippens. We've got Russ Jennings today, who happens to be Joe's, moderator in Facebook, Parex Launch, for years right from the beginning. Adam Payne will be in here in just a little while. Wanted to say this, you know, anything that we say on this broadcast today, for one thing, UltraBotanica, doctor Deanna Windham, Keith Bishop, who's with us as well, clinical nutritionist, doctor Deanna Windham, of Whole Human Life, They are here, we are here today not to offer medical advice. Nothing should be construed as medical advice that we are offering today.
You should go to your own healthcare practitioner that is credentialed, that you're trusting to manage your experience in your health journey, we also strongly recommend that if you're just in that world of allopathic medicine, conventional medical doctors, that you look beyond that to an integrative, a functional, a medical doctor, or a a naturopath, or someone like a clinical nutritionist like Keith Bishop that can really help hold your hand and work with your team of medical professionals. Now a lot of you are aware because we get a lot of confusing calls here at Ultra Botanica. Russ Jennings on the end handles a lot of this stuff. Joe hears about it. There's a lot going on out there that I would consider bait and switch and fraud. Everything from the sale of off label medications like fenbendazole and ivermectin to a whole bunch of things related to using Joe's name, calling it the Joe Tippens protocol or the updated Joe Tippens protocol.
So without further ado, I'm going to introduce Joe. Joe, thanks for having us here today. And, Joe, I know you and Wes Jennings are gonna have a conversation about some things that have been disturbing you and maybe a path forward.
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Okay. Well, I think you mentioned in the last podcast that a whole bunch of fraudsters have popped up, and they're preying on the most vulnerable of people out there charging 608 hundred dollars and then never shipping anything. Or if they do ship something, it's far inferior product. And, Russ Jennings joined me literally on week one when I launched the Facebook group. And, I put out a word for volunteers and thankfully, Russ was one of the volunteers that that signed up. He's been a moderator of the Facebook group since day one, which is now over 50,000 people.
In that Facebook group, we try to keep all of the multilevel marketers, the charlatans, the fraudsters out, and it is unfortunately, it's become a full time job. But, I wanna turn it over to Russ because he's done the best job of compiling all of these fraud sites, and we can even put some of them up on the screen. In in one case, it's very disgusting. They used AI to mimic my face and my voice, to sell fraudulent product or sell and never ship anything. It's really sad when I get somebody that says that I just sent $600 to these people, and
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and I didn't know. But, Joe, we can put that video up for people to see if you'd like. Yeah. Put it up. It's it it it'll surprise you. I hope this message finds you well.
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Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joe Tippens, and I am the founder of what many of you know as the Joe Tippens protocol. The purpose of today's live video is to inform you all personally that I am indeed the individual behind every post you see in this group. I understand some of you may have doubts about whether I am truly the person managing this platform, and I want to put those concerns to rest. To facilitate direct communication, I am providing two phone numbers, one for texting and another for WhatsApp. You can reach out to me via these means knowing confidently that you are indeed communicating with Joe Tippens himself.
The details are as follows. For text messages, plus +1 (510) 497-1513, or WhatsApp, plus +1 (775) 313-3866. Please feel free to contact me through these numbers. I am here to ensure that any questions or uncertainties you may have are addressed directly by me. I appreciate your continued support and engagement in our
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community. Yeah. I must say that for those of you that tuned in late, please understand what you were just watching was a deep fake, and the information that was just given is actually a fraudster that wants to take your money. So with with again, Joe, Russ, have at it. I'll I'm gonna turn it over to Russ because he's on top of this daily on the Facebook group.
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Yeah. Thanks for having me here today. Yeah. The video you just saw popped up, oh, I can't remember. It was about six months ago. One of the first scam groups that, showed up on Facebook using Joe's name is called Joe's, Joe Tippen's protocol, with a period at the end of it. There's several of them out there. But then the altered video showed up, which kinda raised it to a new level. So the scammers are starting to learn how to use AI. They're using that to put together their post in their group. Now they're doing the video, and and who knows where it'll go from here. But, one of the other groups you see there on the screen, the lung cancer survivor, the Joe Tippens protocol slash cancer.
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Let's see. Yeah.
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Cancer support community. They're now getting into ivermectin, because of all the attention ivermectin is getting. They started forming these groups. And that ivermectin group is the same people that are doing the Joe Tippens protocol groups. They use the same phone numbers, pretty much the same thing.
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And They they even commandeered my phone, stole a picture of my driver's license, and they post my driver's license to say, see, I'm the real Joe Tippens. It's really insane.
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Yeah. They've used all of Joe's pictures from his personal page and then, to put in there for their profiles. So it really is becoming rampant. And we spend me and the other admins, we probably spend several hours a day just chasing down the scammers. This scammers are are rampant on Facebook. It's not just this, but across the board, all the other groups I'm in that aren't cancer related, We have the same issue with scammers. So Yeah. Ultimately, what it comes down to is don't buy anything from anyone on Facebook. Whether it's a profile, a group, or a page on Facebook, don't send your money because it's probably a scammer nowadays.
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Yeah. I would make it real simple. If it's not from our Facebook group, which is My Cancer Story Rocks Facebook group, or it's not directly on the blog itself at mycancerstory.rocks, then there's a 99% chance it's a fraud. I'd like to Yeah. I'd like to also say and this goes to the world we're living in with AI. We have thousands of people every month that refer to the old original protocol from eight years ago. And it's all out of date. The current protocol is on the mycancerstory. Rocks at protocol tab at the top of of the blog. And everything else is well outdated.
Any references to just plain CBD or without understanding that there's hundreds of subtypes of cannabinoids, or vitamin e, which I eliminated almost six months after I wrote the original blog. And I eliminated that for a reason, but you'll see that people can continue to come up with the Joe Tippens protocol, which is not the protocol because it was the protocol from eight years ago. And SEO people are continually leeching back to that original protocol eight years ago and then building on it. So please, everybody remember that the current protocol is the protocol, and it is not the one from eight years ago. And it's at, at a tab at the top of the blog at mycancerstory.rocks.
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And Joe and Russ, may I just say one thing? You know, Joe, you mentioned the word fraud, but we're all very deeply concerned. There are individuals out there that are actually selling things that they are calling Finbendazole, they're calling doxycycline and ivermectin and all these things on the Internet that are not that, that are contaminated products, that are not tested for label claim. It's very easy for these people to provide you with a certificate of analysis that they have put together. You saw the video with Joe's face on it. So we're very concerned about your physical health as well, and we don't want you to be taking something that could actually harm you as well. So please be aware of that. When it comes to online purchases, it's a very dangerous world out there.
Lots of counterfeits to a lot of things out there.
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Yeah. And just to follow-up on that, Josh, Joe only recommends Merck products, and there's a reason for that. Merck is a large company. They test everything multiple times before it ever goes into a bottle and is put out on the market. These other products that are popping up that say they're 99% pure, the only way you would ever know if it's 99% pure is to take that yourself, take it to a lab, and have it tested. You don't know if these people are in their garage mixing this stuff up, and we have tested some of those products that are out there, and they're substantially less than the 99% that they claim.
And there's no telling what they might be mixing it with. It could be drywall powder. It could be sodium bicarbonate. It could be sugar.
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There's just no way to know unless you have it tested. And it most likely is made in a facility that's not FDA approved.
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Yeah. And So I'm I'm gonna join I'm gonna add Deanna and Keith here for if they have any comments on fraud that they've seen in in the background. Okay. Yeah. And I and I and I wanna mention again that you can get online, and you can actually find packaging that looks like Merck. It's very easy for them to take the front of a Safeguard or a panicure seat box or a bottle of the liquid that someone might purchase out there for an animal and go ahead and put that on their website as a way to tell you, hey, We're sending you the genuine thing. So it it's a it's a very, very slippery slope. Well, here's an easy one. When somebody says I'm taking the Fenben pills,
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I know it's a fraud Right. Because they don't nobody that's not a fraud makes it in pill form.
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Deanna, you're muted, by the way. Keith, what what, do you have any comments to the fraud that you've seen?
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Well, I I do matter of fact, each week, I do have somebody that mentions, I bought my Finbin from Joe, you know, or my or my supplements from Joe. And so, you know, I've I've let him know. And then and I have heard several people saying that they spent $600
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and never received anything back. I have about two or three a week that tell me they've lost $600. Mhmm.
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Yeah. It's really nice. Also have several people a week that tell me that I, I see maybe two new cancer patients a day, and then I maintain multiple cancer patients. And I several times a week, if not once a day, I have people that stay they're they're on the Joe Tippens protocol, and I ask, where did you get it? Where are you getting it from? And at least 50% of the time, it is not valid. And I want everyone to know this. It is illegal for any company to put an animal medication into a pill and sell it to a human. That is a % illegal. It is also illegal for any company to take a prescription medication and sell it to you without a prescription.
So if you are getting ivermectin or fenbendazole from any place, except the pharmaceutical companies that make them, it is not fenbendazole or ivermectin because what isn't illegal is to put sugar or salt or flour or whatever they want or sand in those pills and say it's finbenzol or ivermectin. That is not illegal. So the fact that they're still operating tells me that what's in those pills is not finbenzol or ivermectin. They would have already been shut down shut down by the FDA and the FTC.
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Yeah.
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I think we've covered that pretty well. Now we can, move into the q q and a. Yeah. We'd like to move on to a group of questions that came in, and thank you so much for submitting those questions. Joe, I think we're gonna kick it off under a category of the supplement protocol and dosage, and we do understand there are new people joining us us now. You may have heard from a friend. You may be watching with a friend, and you may have never read Joe's blog. Joe, I do want to encourage people for them to go to your blog and read your blog, mycancerstory.rox. That's very important because that gives you the opportunity to then ask if you can join Joe's Facebook page and you're joining something that's well moderated, that's going to give you some good information that's not going to be hearsay, it's not going to be propaganda that's out there or something that could harm you. Joe, we've got a question from Larry A. I guess his handle is Superman.
He says he wants clarification on the updated supplement stack and the rationale behind replacing vitamin e, CBD, and curcumin. I think you started into that a minute ago. Yeah. That is the original protocol from eight years ago.
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And I eliminated vitamin a vitamin e for a specific purpose. There's just too many cases where the blood thinning is is contradictory. It it can contradict other things that traditional doctors wanna do and can contradict even the the protocol. And the CBD that I originally recommended eight years ago just wasn't the right CBD. And the curcumin that I recommended eight years ago, only 15% got absorbed into the system. When I met Adam, six years ago, I a light bulb went off. Adam's company takes anything that's not absorbable and makes it absorbable.
And it was a game changing, knowledge for me that I could get curcumin to absorb up to eighty, eighty, 80 five percent into the bloodstream as opposed to what you buy at the off the counter at CVS or Walgreens, maybe less than 2% absorbs into the bloodstream. So every one of the Onco adjuncts that we've added to the protocol were added for a reason. And, I don't wanna go into the details, but, for example, on the CBD, Adams and the the research determined that it was only certain cannabinoids that affected cancer. And they've isolated those cannabinoids on the Kirk, and they've added c sixty and and, frankincense. And we could go into a long reason why, but there is a specific research reason why.
And with respect to Onco two, the curcumin, we now have, in addition to that, quercetin added to that product. And the berberine, which really, I think, replaces metformin as a for lowering blood sugar, it was added for a reason. So all of the four Onco products are there for a reason. And, I highly recommend everybody, in addition to the fenbendazole dose, they take, each of the other four Onco products. And the dose, I started out eight years ago with faulty research that said fenbendazole could really be damaging to the liver. So I started out with three days a week and four days off.
Then I found research I found the research that said it could damage your liver, and that research was based on a dosage of one thousand x, what we're recommending here. Well, you take anything at one thousand x, and you're gonna cause problems. And more importantly, Johns Hopkins did complete a, toxicity trial that determined five hundred milligrams a day long term is safe. So those are why we did that. Now with respect to dosage, we now recommend two hundred and twenty two milligrams a day, seven days a week for active cancer. And because there's millions of people across the globe toying around with this, lots of people have have experimented with higher dosages, doubling and tripling and quadrupling the dosage.
And and I asked those people to report to me any side effects or problems or liver enzyme problems and yet have found any. So, I am confident today that because of the toxicity trial said five hundred milligrams a day is safe, I'm confident that doubling the doses to four hundred and forty four milligrams a day is safe if people wanna try that. Yeah. And, Joe, you always recommend individuals, because it's an inexpensive
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safeguard, to go in and get their liver enzymes checked. You know? Sixty, ninety days, your doctor will recommend that. If you've got insurance, you can say, I'd like to do that. And so that's the and you're paying out of pocket for that is very inexpensive as well. I'd I'd also just like to briefly mention, if you notice Adam and I being strangely silent as it relates to talking much about the Onco products, We're only allowed under FTC and FDA regulations to call those an adjunctive supplement protocol. At the end of the day, even though we initially were a biotech company, we're a supplement manufacturing company that formulates, does unique innovations with patented technology, as Joe referenced.
But the reality is we can't get into saying certain things online. So,
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Joe But, Diana and Keith can certainly talk about them in a more in a little bit of water. Maybe just in in response to, dosing and the utility of fenbendazole and the pathway products. Deanna and Keith, how do you guys approach, dosing your patients or making recommendations in terms of these, these products and other things that you might take into consideration? Maybe, Deanna, you can start.
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Yeah. So, I I have a, what I call a foundational protocol in cancer, and, I put I typically recommend that, or or, suggest that all people with cancer be on this foundational protocol. And the foundational protocol includes the Joe Tippens protocol in it with the finbendazole, the four UltraBotanica products. And, those are super powerful. I do a I use them by the dosing that's on the labels, so I don't vary from that very much. And the finbendazole, I typically use two twenty two once or twice a day. I do not I have never ever recommended that people go above that. The, as Joe said, the research just doesn't support it. What we know so far, it works at that dosage. There's no reason to push it farther. You don't get better benefit from more. Exactly. So the fenbendazole two twenty two twice a day, the the supplements is recommended.
That is a very powerful way to start in cancer.
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Kathy r asked, is fenbendazole effective alone or the additional supplements necessary? That's a loaded question. Out of the out of the five thousand success cases that I know of today other than me, I'm I bet you at least five hundred or a thousand of them did Fenben only and had success. However, I think that the four Onco, adjuncts are game changers in terms of increasing the efficacy.
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Yeah. And Kathy's question is so loaded because and I think that Deanna and Keith could could speak to this as well. It's a very loaded question because many people are on chemotherapeutic drugs. They may be on radiation. They may be on immunotherapy. And so supplements and those things combined have their own unique experience with every individual. And and so I think it's important when you ask a question like that, you can't just give a shotgun answer like that because a health professional like Keith or Deanna is gonna take a health history and take into consideration these other things. Is there any, response or comment from you, Keith or Deanna, as it related to what I just said?
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Sure. The, I think it's important. Cancer, you know, cells a matter of fact, almost any health issue, there's more than just one cause or one particular step that we need to take care of. So, you know, fimbendizole does have a few different activities in the cancer cells, while each of these other supplements have other benefits. For example, most of them just one of the benefits of almost every single one of these ingredients is reducing inflammation issues in the body, and and inflammation is a driver of cancer. So if we don't address the underlying issue going on in the body, some practitioners will call that the terrain or I'll call it the environment inside the body.
You know, we may kinda knock the cancer down, but we're may not be able to get to some of the the stem cells and the cells that are sleeping and hiding out. So we have to, you know, kinda hit it from several different mechanisms. That's why, actually, you know, we have anti inflammatory, blood glucose control, you know, growth inhibitors, and and and various different things in these supplements to work in addition to you know, even in oncology, they don't give you one chemotherapy drug. They give you two or three things now, maybe even more because cancer cells can adapt to just one particular item.
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Thanks, Keith. Let's move on to cancer prevention and maintenance. Two things. Once you're NED, no evidence of disease for, I believe, at least two years. I think you should go on a maintenance protocol of three days on and four days off. And even still, maybe you wanna pulse two weeks on and two weeks off. I don't think there's a real a need for you to stay on it seven days a week indefinitely. And I constantly get asked the question, what if I just wanna take it as a preventative medicine? And I believe the downside risk is so low, if not zero, that anybody wants to take Fenbenzole and this entire protocol three days a week, as a preventative, it's the downside risk is zero, and there's ample evidence of upside. So I'd say why not?
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Doctor Windham, anything any comments on that in terms of maintenance?
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Yeah. I typically do. Cancer has the reason that fenbendazole works for some people and not others is because cancers typically has 10 aspects of cancer. And between fenbendazole and the four supplements, I do a sensitivity test for cancer cells, And I see that those five things are treating about eighty percent of the epigenetic changes and, the, pathways that can that most common, that are most commonly used in cancer. And so once people are through that, they're, if they're not working with a doctor or integrative practitioner, then I usually recommend doing the protocol three days a week. So that's what we go to, unless they're doing circulating tumor cell testing or working with a practitioner that has a a better eye on what is happening with them.
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Thanks.
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Well, there's quite a few questions here on that all cover that same question. Right. So, somebody asked, about combining with conventional treatments.
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We had at least three questions there talking about combining with chemotherapy, and is there any risk for organ damage? Diana asked and Melissa asked, is there, specifically about combining fenbendazole and, chemotherapy for lymphoma?
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Well
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Joe? First of all,
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I have yet to find a cancer subtype that it hasn't worked on. So when people keep asking about different subtypes of cancer, it's a little frustrating. However, there is one caution that, your Onco two product should not be taken on the day before, day of, and day after active chemo because it could negatively impact the chemo itself. Broadly, I recommend to people to take my protocol concurrent with and parallel to anything and everything traditional oncologist, wanna throw at it, because I don't think it'll contradict what they're doing, and I don't think there's any downside risk to to doing that.
Now somebody asked Lynn Lindsey asked, does fin is can you use phen phenbos on chemotherapy days? Absolutely. I don't think there's reason to stop because you're on chemo. The only exception is the Onco two curcumin product.
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And and, there are circumstances where Onco2 can be compatible and might synergize chemo, but those are the questions that, clinical nutritionists like Keith Bishop or Deanna can answer. But but we don't wanna don't please don't take the risk of combining, pathway two with, chemotherapy unless you get qualified health advice from, clinical nutritionists, naturopath, or a functional MD like doctor Windham.
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So quite a few questions have come in about, ivermectin. And I'm not anti ivermectin. I just believe we need to be focused on our protocol only. And if somebody wants to add ivermectin to the protocol, they should they should do that. I'm not recommending it, but that doesn't mean somebody shouldn't do it. I I don't believe there's risk of organ damage, combining chemo and Fenben. And I'm pretty sure, people stick to the protocol as dosed in the blog at on the protocol tab, the downside risk is very, very low. And kinda rule number one of medicine is that don't make it worse. And I don't believe this protocol is gonna make anything worse. I'd like to circle back to Keith and Deanna on that last topic that we had combining with conventional treatments.
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What I found missing from some of the answers, and I'd love for you to address that, is we do understand that there are risks associated with chemotherapy. We're all aware of that. We know it is the recommended protocol under standard of care. But I think one of the things that I would love to hear addressed is, are there natural substances that one can take that if you're undergoing chemo, you now have something that's actually nourishing the immune system of the body or helping to protect the immune system while it's taking the assault of the chemotherapy that's being done.
Deanna Keith?
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Hi there. Okay. So, I about 70 of the people that I work with are doing a combination of, of, traditional, therapies along with their integrative therapies, and about thirty percent or so are doing just an integrative protocol. And so we actually have a lot of information on peep and I'm not the only one. There is a lot of research on this. There are a lot of doctors around the country that are treating cancer integratively and doing research on it. What we know is if you are on supplements while you are doing chemotherapy, that the chemotherapy works better, has longer lasting impact, and has lower rates of side effects.
And I have not personally seen any interactions. There are I mean, that's not true. Sorry. Let me back up a little bit. I haven't seen very many interactions, and the ones that are there are ones that we will typically tell you about, before you go in. But this but as far as fenbendazole, I haven't seen any but anything that I've had to worry about except when a chemotherapy drug itself is damaging the liver. And then it makes it hard for anything to pass through the liver, but that's not because fenbendazole is a problem. That makes sense. Right. Very good. That was an excellent And I just wanna put one warning out there. We've had a couple of, people
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like you know, they think one is good, two is better, three is amazing. There are a lot we've had a number of reports where people are combining fenbendazole, mebendazole, and ivermectin, And that, we've learned is actually neurotoxic. People lose sense of reality, they become disoriented progressively, so it does it's not like it happens overnight. So people might think that they're, they're having progressive dementia or Alzheimer's disease. No. If you take all three together, you're actually creating a neurotoxic cocktail.
So don't do that, please. Yeah. We mentioned that based on a personal experience, and I'll leave it at that. Two people that we that we know that, had had done that. And it seems logical. Wow. I'm gonna be all I've I'm gonna defend Ben, mebendazole, and ivermectin. It's very expensive to do all three, but there's no utility and it actually causes neurotoxicity.
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So Right.
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Let's let's move on.
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So I the question keeps coming up, Fenben versus Meiben. And I've done a mountain of research myself, and I happen to believe, and this is just one man's opinion from my own experience, that FinBEN, has some functions that MiBin doesn't have. And I think the primary one is in the the third pathway that we know Fenben works is producing healthy new wild type p 53, the cancer killing gene. That that FinBin is superior to MeBin for that third. Knocking out microtubules and interrupting the cancer cell's ability to metabolize sugar, MiBin and Fenben are probably about the same.
The only confusion happens because MiBin has been FDA approved and Fenben has not. But for me, I would and if if I had cancer again tomorrow, I would, go back to seven days a week of fenbendazole instead of three days a week.
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Yep.
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Diet and lifestyle. Boy. This is one that I always get a chuckle out of because I didn't practice what I preached. You know? Yes. If if if you can do anything that'll lower blood sugar, you should do it. I think Keith and Diana would agree with me. But I have I've always just eaten what I wanted to eat, lived the lifestyle I wanted to live, and it's worked for me and thousands of others. So I I in a perfect world, you should, change your your diet habit and your workout habit to, lower your blood sugar as as much as possible.
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Yeah. There is a there's so much evidence to support the fact that cancer is not a somatic disease a somatic genomic disease, but it's actually a metabolic response to, a very hostile environment where which results in damaged mitochondria and then a number of adaptations that more represent an ancient presentation of cells rather than our modern presentation of cells.
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Yeah. No. That's alright.
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Sorry. It's okay. And so what we're seeing here is that cancer cells are only out for their own survival. They're not out for the survival of of the body. And we, and that's what we're fighting. We're fighting an ancient foe that is, trying to take over and survive in a very hostile environment.
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Joe, I'd like to bring up something that I've heard you mentioned before and having been on the phone with hundreds of people, and and Keith and Deanna may wanna weigh in on this as well. Joe, it's almost as if when I meet someone on the phone or in person that's on this journey, their attitude and the way they are approaching this from a mental and a spiritual standpoint can almost seemingly be the determining factor of the trajectory of their journey to back to health. Would you address that for a moment? Because I know this is a big part of your DNA. Yeah. Well, so,
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I didn't learn about, Bruce Lipton and his, book, The Biology of Belief until after I was in remission and had no cancer. But looking back with hindsight being twenty twenty, I came to the conclusion that some percentage of my success, which I I can't quantify, but some percentage of my success was that I'm just wired to be positive. Mhmm. And the day after I was told that I had three to six months to live, go home and hire hospice, get your affairs in order, say your goodbyes, I can't explain why to anybody, but I was a % positive that they were full of it.
And and and then I look back with hindsight being twenty twenty after reading doctor Lipton's book and watching his two and a half hour, lecture on YouTube, which I highly recommend everybody do. His lectures on YouTube range from a half hour to an hour to hour and a half to two and a half. I recommend everybody watch the two and a half hour version because this guy scientifically has proven that your thoughts coming out of your brain affect you at the cellular level. Mhmm. And I think that's on the positive side. I infer from that, maybe somebody can correct me, but I also think that if if you're generally negative, that's also going to affect you at the cellular level and not in a good way.
So, I really believe, constant positive vibes
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affect cancer. I really do. I really do. And, Adam, you and I have been attending conferences over and over for the last three years, and one of the recurring themes at at these conferences is that almost every doctor that we see that gets up and begins to talk about protocols related to autoimmune or cancer or anything else, they say, oh, and there's been a component we've been missing within our practices for years that now we literally have people in house helping individuals with their emotions, with trauma, with unforgiveness and bitterness because we're seeing a direct correlation in our own practices of the attitude, as Joe references with Bruce Lipton, and the degree
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of how quickly they begin to heal. Right? There's there's a definitely a spiritual emotional aspect to the the disease itself, that manifests itself in, in in energy and cellular behaviors that, can result in cancer. And in some circumstances, cancers are not resolving because people have a very negative attitude about life So and are just resigned.
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Peggy, see. Deanna. No. Here's a lot of Gotcha. Yeah. Peggy and Kathy just asked again What's the yeah. What's the video? So the guy's name is Bruce Lipton, like the t, and his, lectures and book are called the Biology of Belief. And the two and a half hour lecture out on YouTube is is the one I recommend.
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That's good. Yeah. I I suspect the Or go to the trouble to read the book. Right. There is actually a very strong connection to,
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what we eat and and how we how we live the our our positive or negative attitudes, but also the foods that we eat. Keith and Deanna, maybe a couple of comments about your metabolic approach to cancer in regards to Joe's protocol and your recommendations to, to people.
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Well, I typically will try to address the metabolic aspect, including blood glucose, and physical activity exercise. Although we we have to be careful, a lot of people are doing an extreme keto or carnivore and, and or removing too many food groups, from their their diet. And so, like, some people may be just doing juicing. And, and so that can actually create and, actually, a lot of my clients that I see for the first time are actually physically and therefore, even emotionally, in a bad spot because they're actually they're malnourished and because they are not eating, appropriately and getting the right balance of proteins and fats and carbs. So but we do have to be careful. I'm a big, tester.
I love to evaluate body composition and follow that, make sure that we're maintaining our muscle and bone tissue, and we've if we lose a little fat, that can be okay. But even blood glucose levels and ketones, but following that to figure out and, But everybody's different, so we always have to make these adjustments, you know, for that. It's a a very important part of of this whole picture of not just the the Fenben and supplements, but also our lifestyle and spiritual and emotional health.
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Yeah. Thanks, Keith. Deanna, would you weigh in on that? By the way, that's Keith Bishop of PrevailOverCancer.com, a beautiful website with a lot of good free information for you to kind of set your compass toward a health journey.
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And I would say also that, the Prevail over Cancer site has so much information. I send every single one of my cancer patients to Keith Bishop's website. He is my go to person for diet in cancer. And, whenever I'm addressing cancer, there are actually five aspects of cancer that we need to be looking at or five aspects of things that contribute to cancer. And what's great about the Joe Tippens protocol is that that protocol is actually addressing pieces of all of those parts, which is why it works for a lot of people. But if it's not working for people, then it's because it's what the cancer that you have or the cancer that's in your body is not being addressed by this protocol, we're missing something, that's the time to bring in help.
And, and I also wanted to say that the mind is one of those five categories, and I address with every single person in the first visit or two. We are talking about mindset. How do you feel? What are you thinking? What do you believe? I you cannot heal from cancer if you believe that you can't. You have to believe that you can do anything or you can't do it. It was Napoleon Hill that said whatever you believe is true. I mean, whatever you believe you can achieve,
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you have to believe it. Yeah. And that's doctor Deanna Windham of wholehumanlife.com. We appreciate Keith and Deanna's con contributions here to set the table for you on your health journey. Somebody asked,
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effectiveness of liquid and paste forms of Panacure and Safeguard. I've got some great stories about that. I've got Do people using it topically too? I've got dozens of successes of people putting the paste form topically directly on skin cancers and having amazing results almost immediately. And, of course, over the years, I've had a lot of people on feeding tubes that really just couldn't do the powder. And the liquid form is perfect for people on a feeding tube or have problems with swallowing
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the the powder. Yeah. Make sure you do the math correctly when you're going into these pastes and these liquids. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because they are typically,
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a milligram per milliliter of liquid, for example. And so you would need two and a half or five four, milliliters to get the, four hundred milligrams.
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So you just have to do the the adjustment on the So divide divide by 10. So the safeguard liquid for goats and cattle has been, when I when I had cancer two years ago, I used the, for goats and, and cattle. It's a hundred milligrams per ml in a one liter bottle. It's only a hundred and $60 on Amazon and that's that one bottle was enough from over a year's worth of taking two hundred and twenty two milligrams a day, very cost effective and very easy to dose. Just half a tablespoon was enough, for me. And, and certainly, it's a Merck product, so you get something that's high quality and getting the right dose is super, super helpful.
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Correct.
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So there's a there's a category at the bottom here, and perhaps Keith and Diana can weigh in on this. You know, there's a lot of we we hear this from the circles that we run-in. Adam and I do with inter integrated functional orthomolecular
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Complimentary therapy. Yeah.
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People talking about red light therapies, methylene blue, melatonin, a whole host of adjunctive therapies that are out there and that people are using, and they're using it under the auspices of a recommendation from their health practitioners such as a Keith or such as a Deanna Wyndham. I don't want to discard those. I have plenty of people that I speak with. I know they do as well, and they recommend we want you to know. Deanna is so kind to to to have having looked at the products we have saying they really move in this 80% realm of addressing a broad number of these things. But we want to let you know we here we're not the people that are the one stop shop for everything in the world. There's so many other things that are being recommended by other clinicians out there, health practitioners that have boots on the ground information and research that can also help you, which is why we say, please add someone to your team like a Keith, like a Deanna, or someone else. And, you know, Keith, Deanna, any comments there?
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I've been trying to answer the the posts that that are coming through for people. I've noticed that. Thank you. Yeah. So,
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you were asking about, I'm sorry. I got a little bit distracted. Many, there's so many other therapies that are being recommended by practitioners like yourself that may fall outside that eighty percent group you mentioned. I think there are many, actually. Oh, yes. And we and we never want people to think that we claim all the answers. We don't. There's great practitioners doing amazing things out there. I've always said that the last twenty plus years, I've studied this unique health condition called cancer. I've seen so many people make it through their journey to the other side without all kinds of things that we're aware of today. So it it's quite remarkable.
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It is. And I see I see a lot of good practitioners too doing a lot of therapies, like, from onKNP. I just want people to have a tailored personalized approach to cancer and not a hodgepodge approach. That's my big thing. Don't do hodgepodge Agreed. Do a tailored approach to you. That's always the best. Yeah. I think the the key here is that,
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there are tools that are avail that, integrated physicians, functional doctors like Doctor. Wyndham have at their disposal that can actually look at cellular response to different, to these different, nutraceutical interventions and to, different chemotherapeutic interventions and can measure the susceptibilities and the the actual nature of the metabolic dysfunction, with these different cancers. And and then they can adjust and they can pivot. Yeah. We They can add new things or take things away as they see fit. We provide to physicians actually a very comprehensive analysis of over a hundred different cancers that gives them the ability to start a, their dosing protocols with our stuff and with fenbendazole, in order to tailor the dosing to the cancer.
And I think that's, starting with, the Joe Tippens protocol is a great start, but getting specific recommendations from a clinical nutritionist and or a functional doctor is super important. I also wanna mention, because, I think this is really important, If if anybody is on disability or on social security with with a limited income, we at UltraBotanica have programs to significantly discount our products to you. You just need to call us, and, we have a simple evaluation that you can do. We wanna make sure that if you are deciding to do the Joe Tippens protocol, that it's always available and affordable.
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So I just saw several questions come up to people confused about what we just said about liquid and paste. Sure. Go ahead. So so liquid if you wanna take five hundred milligrams, that is one teaspoon of the liquid. If you wanna take two hundred and fifty milligrams, it's a half a teaspoon. And somebody asked about, the paste form on a basal cell carcinoma. I mean, the the people that I know have had success with it, they just put some on their finger and just rubbed it on the on the cancer twice a day. And it it really wasn't a dosage. It was just enough to cover, the actual cancer spot.
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That's good to know. It's, so it doesn't just work, systemically. It works actually topically.
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I've seen that too. Yep. There there's there's a company there's a question here related to us, Adam, doing any kind of collaborations with medical professionals and things. We're very welcome to that. We're open to that all the time. A lot of the people we interact with, Adam, are so very busy that as much as they'd like to work directly with us and build relationship to do things and do research, it has been a difficult challenge. And that's why you've engaged, your friends over at the Benbrook Laboratories under the OU Health Sciences Center to do some ongoing research related to cannabinoids at this time. And and so to help kind of validate and set the frame for what Joe started out with is there's CBD, and there's all kinds of CBD, and then there's what these people have been doing with cannabinoids.
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You wanna address that, Adam? Sure. I'd just, we have active ongoing research with the University of Oklahoma out of Doris Benbrook's labs under Vishal, doctor Vishal and his group, where we're researching, all of these different fractions of frankincense, and we're also continuing our research on the cannabinoids where we have, started research with HK LAN a number of years ago, identifying that it's the acidic cannabinoids that really are responsible for a beneficial biological action in cancer. And there are also very specific fractions of frankincense that, are beneficial. And there are a number of fractions of frankincense that are not beneficial, including different cultivars. So we our current formulation of pathway one is the beneficial cannabinoids and it is the correct fractions of and the correct species of frankincense in order to provide optimal benefit. The ongoing research at the University of Oklahoma is certainly exciting, but we also have collaborations with the Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health out of Arizona, Doctor. Nisha Winters and her crew of a couple of hundred naturopaths and doctors that are adhering to the metabolic approach to cancer and her fellowship which is the Metabolic Training Institute of Health are adopting our analytical methods and our ways of bending different cancers into different metabolic derangements, and then utilizing supplements like pathways one, two, three and four to address those derangements specifically is in alignment with what, doctor Wyndham is doing with, DITAR and RGCC as liquid biopsies.
There are so many different collaborations we have. We are, and we're open to other collaborations. If you are a medical professional and you are interested in expanding, our knowledge base of how these different, supplements work in a clinical population, we're very open to collaboration and would welcome a phone call and a discussion. I just asked if Pathway four is resveratrol only. No. Pathway four is a combination of three ingredients that use our protozorb, what we used to call LPS technology. It is resveratrol bound to brown rice protein. It's EGCG bound to brown rice protein and a little known polyphenol called fisetin, which is a very powerful polyphenol also bound to brown rice protein. And then we add in a highly purified beta glucans from a company called Imudyne, to finish it off. The combination of these four ingredients, we believe, is synergistic around different hypoxic and stem cell proliferation pathways, helping our body to get rid of cancer cells that are proliferating and shutting down both inflammation and proliferation pathways in different cancers by utilizing different mechanisms that are, are that these cancers are vulnerable to.
Ultimately, we're not asking we don't understand that some of the science of how these, ingredients work is is, can be daunting. That's why we provide resources to folks like doctor, Wyndham and and Keith Bishop to help navigate these questions, with the patients. Peggy Sue asked if she could buy your products in Europe. You can. We actually, if you, go to our website, you can, place an order. We're actually gonna have, delivery duties prepaid available in the next month on our website. Right now, when you order, it will be delivered by, DHL, and you will be responsible for the duties when as it enters the country.
Stay tuned for, having duties prepaid, which is a much less expensive option in the next short amount of time. Yeah. Just be expectant that the current option does
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come with a little bit of a surprising price tag, what they're charging for those duties. Yeah. We actually have a
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a distribution point within, Europe. And, so the the shipping charges are much less for most people. Great. Thanks, Adam, for that.
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This one right here is the website, Finbendazole, Joe Tippen's Protocol. That is one of the fraud sites.
[00:57:33] Unknown:
Let's see if we yeah. I can't I don't know if we can go up there. There we go.
[00:57:38] Unknown:
Oh. So so, Joe, shall we reemphasize at this point in time that you say there's two places that people can find you. They can find you at mycancerstory.rox, which is your original blog. That's spelled the word my, c a n c e r s t o r y, with a period and then r o c k s. And then by reading that blog, they can then gain access to your Facebook page. Is that correct? Well, with an exception. Okay. Because
[00:58:09] Unknown:
there are so many attempts at fraud and multilevel marketers, people like Russ was my my lead moderator. They're very, serious about keeping those people out on the front end. Right. And so in order to gain access to the Facebook group, you have to answer multiple questions and prove that you actually have read the blog before you try to join. And through that, we have a password embedded in the blog, and we change it regularly. It's amazing. We last changed the the password sixty days ago, and it's already out of date, and the fraudsters have figured it out. Okay. So there is a test at the end of the lecture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you have to prove that you've read the blog, and we only allow direct cancer patients and direct caregivers to paint to cancer patients.
We don't let just anybody in there. And I've seen here one of the questions, where can I see some of the success stories? So in the Facebook group with over 50,000 people, the hashtag positive progress is used to report good results. And you can also read through all of the posts on the Facebook group and see where it hasn't worked for people. Right. And it's very transparent about what surrounds my blog, not any alternative cancer, not any other idea. We try to keep it focused.
[00:59:46] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a good thing. Are there any other questions that we have here? It looks like we've covered the, what's what was, sent out, Joe. We have more here.
[00:59:59] Unknown:
Joe, for those that joined late, we started this. I highly recommend as the link gets posted for this particular, a Q and A session. I'm sure it's gonna be posted on Joe's Facebook page, but also posted on the blog. Share it with your friends or loved ones that need that basic education that came out of this pod or this particular Q and A, Facebook q and a today. It's very important. And you may wanna go ahead and rewatch it if you joined late because this started out with a deep concern that Joe and his lead moderator had regarding people purchasing counterfeit product, fraud product, deep fake videos of Joe himself saying, this is me. This is my website. Buy from me. And it wasn't, Joe.
So please share with your friends. Give the warnings necessary. Let's keep people safe, and let's keep their money in their own pocket to be able to be spent on something where they will get something rather than being conned and losing 6 or $800 a pop. Correct. Yep. Joe, any final words? No. I'm I think that we've covered a lot here today. Yeah. Right. Wherever you are in the world, thanks for joining us. Joe, thank you for inviting us in today. We appreciate that so much. You're welcome. Thank you.
[01:01:17] Unknown:
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Introduction and Housekeeping
Fraud and Scams in the Cancer Community
The Real Joe Tippens Protocol
Supplement Protocol and Dosage
Cancer Prevention and Maintenance
Combining Conventional and Alternative Treatments
Diet, Lifestyle, and Mental Attitude
Adjunctive Therapies and Collaborations
Research and Product Availability
