In this episode of MNR TV, we delve into the complex world of income taxes with our special guests, Glenn Ambort and John W. Benson. The discussion centers around the concept of 'taxation by misrepresentation,' exploring how taxes are levied and the impact of central banking systems on national economies. Glenn and John provide insights into the differences between income and sales taxes, and how these affect individuals in both the United States and Canada. They also discuss the historical context of taxation and the influence of powerful banking families on global financial systems.
Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we explore the broader implications of financial control, including the role of central banks in perpetuating economic servitude. Glenn and John share their experiences and knowledge about the legal intricacies of tax laws, the influence of the Federal Reserve, and the potential for systemic collapse. The episode also touches on the controversial topics of government control, the influence of pharmaceutical companies, and the potential for a global economic reset. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges conventional understanding of taxation and economic sovereignty.
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Oh, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of MNR TV. Tonight, we're gonna we're gonna be talking about income taxes with our special guest, Glenn Amport and John w Benson. They will be coming on, and we'll talk about taxation by misrepresentation, and it's gonna be a good show. They've got a lot of information about taxes, and I know one thing in life is for sure is death and taxes. But before we get to that, here's my co host, the mad man himself from Montreal, Mario.
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Oh, I did my homework. You know me before coming, on here.
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Oh.
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Hi, Robert. How are you? I'm good. Hi, Glenn.
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Welcome to MNI show. It's a it's a pleasant it's a pleasant to have you on our show today.
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Great. Do you want me to add John? Yeah. Yeah. Add John also.
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You might as well. We'll have two guests on. At the same time. That this is spectacular.
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Hey, Mario. How are you? I'm good. You? Good.
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Finally, we get to talk. K?
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Yeah. For sure. For sure. I'm just calling up John on the other line. So, he'll be coming up. Yeah. So he's coming up shortly, I suppose.
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Yeah. Rob, are you able to see what I'm posting?
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Hi, John. You there? Yeah. I got Robert and Mario. Mario, can you hear John? I can hear him loud and clear. Could everybody hear me? I could hear you. Welcome, John, to the MNI show. Okay. I'm I'm on Robert's thing, so I don't see what you're typing. I can only I can see what Robert would type, but I don't see what you type.
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Oh, well, no. I'm I was just showing people how how much taxes how much taxes we're paying here in Quebec according to a lot of well, according to what the news is saying, we're paying as much taxes as France. You know how France is paying that much taxes?
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Well, you'll have everybody moving to Russia, won't you? That's what the real French are doing. They're moving to Russia. To Russia? That's very,
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why? What what what's the special about Russia?
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Well, that's
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where he moved. Green card, you come to Russia, and their their maximum tax rate would be 15%.
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Fifteen %. One five. Yeah. Okay.
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Well, that's how much we're paying, 15%.
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Fifteen?
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Yeah. Yeah. Look. From a dollar
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from a dollar, this is what we're paying. We're paying a dollar while we have one tax, which is 5¢, then then we have another tax and 10¢. So total is a dollar 15 on a dollar. That's how much we're we're paying of taxes.
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Oh, no. He's in in in in, Russia, you're only paying a total of 15% on the dollar, 15¢ on the dollar.
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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Now I get it. Okay.
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Well, that's what we're paying too.
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Oh, you're paying a you're paying a 15%.
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Like like like, I I I could make perhaps I could make an analogy if anyone would like. I bought this this this leather jacket last year for a hundred and $49. After the taxes, it came to $170.
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And how much was it originally? $1.49. So then you you added it and it came at $1.79?
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Oh, no. $1.70.
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Well, $1.71. Well, yeah, because the taxes went up also. Yeah. It was $1.70.
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It was $1.70, but no. How much, Mario? Because it went up. It says it. I put on the screen. It's $1.71 exactly. I can't make it bigger, unfortunately. Yeah. I see it. Yeah. Yeah. So you see for a jacket, you see $1.49. It comes up to $1,170.
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Well, now that's a sales tax, isn't it?
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Yeah. Well, both. Yeah. Exactly.
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The the Canadian one and the the Quebec provincial tax.
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So, what we're talking about are two different things. The income tax, at least in The United States differs from sales tax.
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Okay.
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Please explain us
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explain it to us because we're confused. Well, an income tax, you know, sales tax is is is called an, an indirect tax. In other words, it can only reach those people who actually choose to to, engage in the track transaction over which they, charge attacks. So for example, if they charge, for leather jackets, attacks, you can exercise the right not to buy the leather jacket. Okay? But if they charge it on food, nobody can exercise the right to not buy food. That's right. You know? So so but an income tax is different, Mario, in the sense that at the end of the year, you you, like, a guy that makes, let's say, $50,000 as a bricklayer, then he has to pay taxes on the 50,000 that he earned even though he never spent it on anything.
Okay? Mhmm. So that's in addition to a sales tax. We have an income tax and a sales tax over here in The US.
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Well, we also have that. No? We have both. We're still paying back income taxes here.
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Has that that sort of thing? They don't let anything escape them.
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And the thing is, without these taxes, they're probably, hiring the taxes more in The States, and it's on the verge of a, a total collapse.
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Well, yeah. You know, we've got, we've got all the government, that we can afford to buy. And, and and there's no doubt that, that the taxes here are gonna go up, up, up with the, you know, they're talking about Obamacare right now, and that and that really is a, an income tax, you know, and it's gonna raise everybody's taxes, you know, a couple thousand dollars a year, the average family.
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Come Yeah. We're in bad we're in bad shape over here. And can't everybody fight this? And who who who's taking all this money? Who who is it? It's the point. It's the point. The bank the banksters. Right? The bankers?
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Well, let John answer that. John is an expert on that.
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Okay, John.
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Of course, the the government, alleges that they're taking it for their benefit, but, basically, in The United States and well, in all of the major Western countries, you have a central bank, and they have total control of the money system. That is they create everything that that you have in Canada as money at your central bank, and the Federal Reserve of the United States creates everything as we have this money. And so, the only way any and they loan that money into existence. So the only way that you ever get any money in circulation is somebody makes a loan. That means that you can never repay it because all you have in circulation is the amount that was loaned, but you've gotta pay back the amount that was loaned plus the interest, you know, that you agreed to.
And so you're always in a condition then of of economic servitude. Now that's what the world bankers have given us. The Rothschilds and the Warburgs and the Rockefellers and the several other, families Put some families. Who stole the banking system.
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Now what that means in in playing, you know, a simple example, let's suppose you're a farmer and you had a a farm, and you needed a loan for a tractor, and you you you borrowed a hundred thousand dollars for this big combine or something like that. You know, you'd have to you'd have to pay back the hundred thousand dollars plus the interest, but the only way you could pay back that interest, is you don't have any extra money because you only had $200,000, and he wants that back bus interest, you're gonna have to sell some of your farm to come up with the extra $20,000 in interest, let's say.
So every every time the government lends money out, that is every time the Federal Reserve lends money to the United States government and the government wants to pay it back, the only way they can pay it back is they gotta get the hundred thousand or, in this case, a hundred billion or a hundred trillion, who's counting at those those rates Mhmm. Has has to go back to the people, gather the hundred thousand back, plus they have to take some of the of the of the people's property, their houses, their businesses, or or, you know, that kind of thing, their real estate, you name it. So that's the that's the the sickness of lending money into, currency into currency by debt.
You always have to give the currency back plus more that you didn't have. So you have to sell some of your your your your assets, your personal assets. That's a dreadful disease. And and every major nation in the world is a plague by and, you know, you go you go over to, places like, Syria where we're having a big problem right now. Iran No problem. And and and, Omar Gaddafi and, in what was he now? Libya. Libya. Those three banks those three countries all had the same problem. They didn't allow a central bank to come in there. And so is it any surprise that we wanna go to war with it? Will would this include North Korea?
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I would think. Right?
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I don't know much about North Korea. Maybe John does. No. I don't. But, it wouldn't surprise me, but I don't I don't know factually about North Korea, to be honest with you. But Iran, Syria, and the Middle Eastern countries we know. Well, yeah. You know, the Middle Eastern countries said, the heck with that, or at least some of them said the heck with that, central reserve. So, they bowed out of it. And the next thing you know, the United States government is in there bombing them away.
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Well, and you you go back to Russia. The czars would not allow a central bank. So the central bankers, finance the Russian revolution. Western bankers, gave millions of of dollars to Lenin and Trotsky and the boys, to pull off their revolution so that they can establish a central bank. Of course, they didn't do it quite like the bankers would want, but, nevertheless, they did. And so when you say who's behind it, it's the bankers. And when you look at it, if the entire money that you had in circulation in Canada was a million dollars, and I know it's more than that, but just for example Okay. If it was a million dollars and it's loaned into existence at 10% or 5%.
The end of the year, you owe the bankers a hundred and 5,000,000, but all of the money in circulation is only a hundred million. So you're 5,000,000 short. So you gotta loan more money to cover, you know Not debt. The interest. And, eventually, that catches up where there's a certain part of the population can't pay their debt, their interest, and therefore, they have what we is known as a banker's harvest. You have a collapse. And so they go and seize the property of the unfortunate ones that wasn't able to make enough money, to pay their interest on their debt or, you know, their debt and the interest. So those people, they scarf up all their property.
And, so the root problem to all of this is the central banks. And the interest, in fact, the, income tax that we have in The United States was enacted the same year that the congress authorized the establishment of the Federal Reserve. And, really, it was part of a condition of the Federal Reserve. Nineteen thirteen.
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Right?
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Beg your pardon? Wasn't it 1913? Yes. Right. So we've had it for basically, a hundred years. And during that time, they have totally inflated our money to the point that it's you know, it'll buy about 3¢ today. A dollar will buy about 3¢ today than it would have in 1913.
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Unbelievable.
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And and, you know, you've got the same problem up there in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Great Britain, and so forth, that the bankers at Germany, the bankers, like John said, if they lent Canada a million dollars at the end of the year, the the the Canadian government would have to pay back a million dollars to the, central bank, but they only have actual cash of $1,000,000. So they've gotta come up with another 50,000 with the 50,000 doesn't exist. So they go back to the bankers, say, would you please, kind sirs, give us another 50,000? Oh, yes. We will so that you can pay the the interest back. But on the 50,000, we're gonna charge you interest also. But that isn't the end of the story because it's a but we need another million for next year.
Oh, here's another million, and we can go through the same process, next December 31 on that. So what happens is over a period of time, the bank central bankers end up harvesting the nation, the assets of the nation. That's exactly what's going on. And our Federal Reserve down here in our income tax system hey. In 1945, there was a central banker who said, hey. When you have paper money like this, you don't have gold and silver. There's no need for, an income tax anymore because you can print all the money you want. But the purpose of the income tax is twofold. One, to suck out the extra cash that they that they that the bankers lend into circulation so you don't have a Banana Republic where you have 30% inflation a year. So they need to while they lend a million into circulation, they gotta take a bunch out, 50,000 or a hundred thousand or something like that at the bottom, and they take that out from the most vulnerable people typically.
And and that's one of the reasons for the income tax. And the second reason is what they call social engineering. Social engineering means you can direct tax benefits to the people that you favor. So, look, all our politicians with very little exception are bought and sold for in this way. They they pass all these tax laws and so forth for the benefit of these big corporations with the and other laws too, not just tax laws, laws on nutrition and health and driving and, you know, who can practice law in the courts, who can practice medicine, who can do all the rest of the sort of thing. They pack all these and who gets tax benefits, you know, for cars and making automobiles and stuff like that. They have all these benefits with big corporations. And the understanding is that after they pass those, nice those nice favorable tax laws and benefits, corporate welfare, then guess what?
All the people who voted for those things get their little kickbacks in the form of of, campaign contributions. And we have a nice little law down here that when you when you give campaign contributions to a congressman or senator or or whatever, maybe a congresswoman, that when she, retires, if there's anything left over, she gets to keep that tax free. Wouldn't that a nice little benefit? Nancy Pelosi, our sec our our one of our speakers, was a speaker of the house. She's had three or four different positions in the congress. She's one, she's been a congresswoman, and she gets a pension for that. Two, she was a speaker. She gets a pension for that. And three, she was a minority leader, and she gets a pension for that. When she retires, she will get $800,000 a year Wow. For the rest of her life.
She won't even need all of that money. She should donate And and, you know, and and and what is she doing up there? She should donate that money. Making our guns away. She's, putting these confiscatory taxes on people and so forth. But but Robert and Mario, I beg you to understand that our country is no different from yours. I'm sure if I knew all the facts about your situation, you'd find the same thing that's going out there on the great beloved
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country of of Canada. Because it's fun by the same rulers, the Roxas
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family and all of the guys. And the and the and the rocker fellers and the Rock's house. And all those people, the Illuminati that, that Robert favors so much. You know, he wants to find all 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati I read. Hey. They're not particular who they get the money from or who they rape Robin Pillage, be it Russian, be it, American, be it Canadian, be it South African. That money is all the same to them, and they're in the green business, the color of money.
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They're even be beyond that. They're in the one world government business where everything is basically owned and controlled by the big bankers, and their their allowed purpose is to, destroy the United States government, to collapse its economy, and destroy our government and the governments of every other nation. So they will then impose their feudal law rule over all the world and what they call their one world government. And so their valid purpose is not just money. They got more money than they know what to do with now, but it's control, and it's total control of all of the people.
And that's their about purpose.
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Now John has has has had had, a vocation or an avocation in his life to study our tax laws and a few other things that go on in this country and stuff like that. So at some point, I hope I hope you'll get into the fact, you know, that they are not only in the, the the money business, they're all they're also in the slavery business. We have in in in this country a nice little tax form called the form ten forty. IRS is our internal revenue service. That's our, you know, our tax voice with the government. And each year, every American has to file what they call a form ten forty, which is the the number of the, the tax, form that we're expected to file.
But John has made a study of that, and, I hope that maybe this will be the time frame to explain to you exactly what that form ten forty is. And when he does, you'll find out, hey, that they're in the slave business. They're the modern day slavers. So, John, why don't you take them there?
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Yeah. Well Sure. They, they write to laws to make everybody believe that congress has imposed on the people liability to the income tax by statute. And then the duty to file this form ten forty return each year, reporting everything they earned and taking what deductions they allow them. And when I say they, that the government allows them, and then computing the amount of tax they owe and paying the tax. So they try to make everybody believe that that is required as a matter of law passed by Congress, but that's not the truth. The truth of the matter is is that they do not have any constitutional authority to impose such a tax on the people, and the people must voluntarily obligate themselves to it.
And and they but they've tricked everybody into believing that, they must file that return. And they've got a a and so the the return itself is a special type of contract. And to understand our system of taxation here in The United States and the true nature or effect of that form ten forty, you gotta understand the laws of England in 1791 when our fifth amendment to the constitution was written. Now the fifth amendment to the constitution provides that, the government can take nothing from a person, cannot deprive them of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
And and so, the the court, when they first considered the meaning of that clause due process of law, they said, well, the constitution doesn't define that, and therefore, we must look back to to the laws of England to see what was due process when the fifth amendment was written because that's what due process will be. And unless there was a provision to the constitution that prohibited it. And so then, the question before the court in this case, which was which was known as Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land Improvement Company, the question before the court was the constitutionality of the government summary seizure of property to satisfy a tax.
Now by summary seizure, we mean without giving them the right to trial by jury before the seizure. And, so they look back to England, the court, the supreme court, to see if in 1791 there was some process that authorized that type of a seizure, and they found that there was. While normally a person was given a right to a a trial before a judgment, but in the revenue cases, they gave the king his judgment summarily. That is you couldn't challenge, have your right to a trial by jury. The king was given his judgment summarily. They had a couple of different processes that were summary in nature, and one of them was a a type of contract known as a statute staple because there was an act of parliament in 1353 entitled the statute of the staple.
Now and at that time, all the laws of England were written in French. In French? It was the Norman Norman French king that was ruling it. Okay. And and Staple and, of course, you guys in Montreal probably know this, but us, Southerners down here, we we don't know that. But Staple and the French meant market. So that was a a statute for the marketplace or it was really a a statue for the commodity traders of the day. Now, actually, it was a simply an amendment of the statute, the Mercatoribus or statute of merchants or the law merchant that was enacted in December. And the reason they enacted it is because the foreign merchants were were refusing to trade in England because if they got stiffed on a on a contract, it took too long to collect it through the common law.
And so they were just saying, hey. We won't trade there. Well, that represented a a big chunk of taxes from the king. Plus, the people wanted the commodities, particularly the the spirits, you know, the booze and the wine from French, or from France and Italy and and other things. So they passed this special system of contract law known as the law merchant, and the statue of the state will just amended that. And so the form ten forty, when you really look at it, it that's what it mirrors. And in this Murray's lessee case, the Supreme Court said that for a process to meet due process, it must mirror or in principle correspond to a process in use in England in 1791.
If it does and it's not prohibited by the constitution, then it meets due process. But not only does it meet due process, constitutionally, it is the '17, '91 process in England. And when you look at that and look at a form ten forty and see what it mirrors or in principle corresponds to, you see that it corresponds to this statute staple contract. Now that contract itself was given the force and effect of a judgment at common law, and so the king could assess that. Now assessment was a technical term in the exchequer of England, which was had two sides, the treasury side, the king's treasury, and the other side was his high court of common law having jurisdiction over all matters of his revenue.
And so, a statue's table was given the force and effect of a judgment, and it was assessed as recorded then in the treasury side of the exchequer on the judgment role of the exchequer. So it became a recorded common law judgment, and that could be enforced as such. And and, but it had to be voluntary because it had some very different conditions than most contracts. First of all, the debtor conveyed title to everything he owned to the, creditor with a defeasance that that defeated the conveyance if it was performed, and that was prompt payment.
But if the debt was not promptly paid on time, then the creditor had a title to everything the debtor owned and could go out and seize it, including seizing his body and holding it until the debt was fully satisfied from the proceeds of the property of the debtor that was seized. And that's exactly the way our tax system works here. But those people don't have any idea of that.
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Somebody started to say something, I think. Yeah. I was gonna I was just gonna add to what John was saying. So in in in in in in point of, law, what happens is that when, when we sign the form ten forty, what we do is we as a as a as a an entire population, all 300,000,000 of us or however many taxpayers there are supposed to be. We pledge our body, lands, and goods as security for the taxes we're gonna pay. So what the federal government does when it says, hey. We're, we're in, you know, hundred million dollars or hundred billion dollars, in deficit and so forth. We guarantee that with our bodies, our lands, and goods. So and we guarantee that to whom?
To the international bankers. So in effect, international bankers through the medium of the federal government and the form ten forty have a security interest, a bond on all the labor, all the bodies, all the property of everybody in The United States. So who owns America?
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A. The
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federal the federal, reserve banks and their and their partners and all that sort of thing, They own them. And who are their their their bag men here today? It's just like the mafia. You know, you go around and collect your your, your monthly, protection fee. Right. Who are their bag men today? The bag men are the congressmen and senators.
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They're bought and paid for. And so is the president. Right?
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That's why John and I went to prison, John, for six years, me for nine years, because we dared to stand up and say these things in public seminars across this country.
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And you went to jail for that, only that, or there was more stuff to it?
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Well, you know, I mean, I I could I could I could send you a copy of the indictment. But, basically, what the what the government does is it says in its laws that we taught people how to pay the taxes that the form 10 form ten forty appears to require. In other words, what the IRS said you owed, that's what we told people to pay. But then we have a law that says, hey. After you pay the tax, if you wanna complain about the tax in any way, all you have to do is file an administrative claim for refund with the Internal Revenue Service. Tell them what your beef is, what your complaint is. And if you're denied, you can then go into the court and litigate that issue all the way up to the Supreme Court. That's our right.
Okay? So that's what we taught people. And they said to us, well, mister Ambor, we reckon that you taught about a thousand or 1,200 people. But we had we we told them how to file these papers. We had over a hundred thousand of these kinds of paper that you were teaching people about filed with the IRS. So we gotta put you away. If you'd done one or two of these sort of thing, it would not have been a crime. But when you taught a thousand people and they taught another, for every one we taught, there was 10 more that did some with it or, you know, actually a hundred more. If if that thing expanded within three years, the tax system wouldn't be broke. So they had to put us on ice.
That's the real reason. Okay? Now I'm not saying this to complain. I'm not bitter about it. I do a lot of things in prison. But what I'm saying is that if you think this country is free or you think Canada is free, hey. Give your head a shake. Take another thought because no one is free as long as the bankers own all the assets and they own the body, lands, and goods of all the people in America. They do the same in Canada. They do the same every in every industrialized nation. And that's why we are America with our powerful military. Why do you think we're having all these wars? It isn't about oil and so forth and so on. It isn't about any of that stuff. It's about putting out a business These these nations have dared to stand up to the international bankers. So when I when I read about Robert saying I wanna I wanna battle the, 13 bloodlines of the, Illuminati, hey. That's who he's battling.
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Exactly. Well, you know I mean, the thing is, is there any way to stop these bankers? I mean, they're above the law.
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You can't do it legally. Yeah. There's there's there's several ways to do it. I mean, one is if, you know, you had a popular uprising that came down to to blood the streets, like the French revolution back in, you know, the seventeen nineties or whatever. We we hope that we're not at that stage. We we we hope we don't have to go through that. Our our constitution, and I'm sure you have something like it in Canada, our constitution is such that if the people awoke, you know, awaken to the to what's really going on here, they could they could say to their congressmen and senators, hey. If you don't stop this, this charade that's going on, if you don't put these bankers out of business, and we don't want it you lend lend the dollars into circulation as a debt.
They and if you don't do it, we're gonna vote you out of office. The people ultimately have control. So what what does our media do? Hey. The media is bought paid for too because they're part of the the big corporations. They they lull the people to sit to to sleep. And I have a guy named there's a guy named, what was his name? John in, New York, the great, author. Manufactured consent was the name of the book. And what he says is what we we have a government that is that the the we say that the, the right of the government to rule the people is governed by their consent. You know, we put that in our declaration of independence.
And so how do they get our consent? Hey. They lull the people to sleep just like it did in ancient Rome with with circuses and food and bread in the streets. So they give us all sorts of benefits, and they can put all sorts of, you know, basketball and football. I'm not against sports and all that sort of thing, but we make big to dos about things that often don't matter. But the real stuff that matters, it goes on behind closed doors. Like the Obamacare bill, this tax bill for increased health cost.
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Shoot. They they control the health issues. They they control the health, pharmaceutical companies also. Right? I would imagine.
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Exactly. Big what we call big pharma. Right. Because why do you think we have in America all these, shootings at Newtown and this, that, and the other thing? Because all the kids are hopped up on all kinds of Ritalin and all kinds of other drugs and so forth and so on. And there's plenty of research out there that you can read. Legitimate research from from from recognized people, not conspiracy people, recognize when you get kids on these kind of drugs and so forth, there's all sorts of unintended side effects. And And one of them is they get angry and they get uncontrollable and they get into rages and so forth. And what do they do? Hey. They grab the nearest gunner. Now they're grabbing knives, and they're gonna rip up, their other fellow kids in school and so forth. And that gives the government an excuse to take away our guns. Once they take away our guns, hey. We're all sick. We're all, on drugs. We're all overweight. We're all got diabetes, dah dah dah dah dah, heart disease, and so forth and so on. So we got you've got it like, when I was in prison, every every prison has in the federal system. They have twice a day what they call pill line.
Pill line is where you go get your meds and your meds like Zoloft and and and Thorazine and all that sort of thing. And you you live in dormitories, you know, separate dormitories. So maybe there's seven dormitories on a compound. So they have a loudspeaker system. They say pill line pill line pill line. And Mario and Robert, as I live and breathe, I swear to you on on on the stack of Bibles a mile high, that the kids, the people would literally run to the pharmacy to get their drugs. And I asked this for a few of them because I got to, you know, get to got to know a little bit. I says, why do you take all those damn drugs and stuff like that? They say, Glenn, we're cheating the government out of its time. When I'm on those drugs, I'm in outer space. I'm not even here.
That's why I take the drugs. And that's what they want in America. They want a bunch of dumbed down sick people who are on drugs that they can control and food, GMO, modified food they can control. So I'll say, well, the, the straight people will eat, but the gays won't eat. So we'll just put the we'll just put San Francisco and LA, you know, parts of LA, they're gays, all that sort of thing. We'll just put them on a restricted diet or no diet at all. Or we don't like, Libya, so we'll just cut off the food supply to Libya. They won't have any more food because the GMO stuff that they got today hey. You can't, you know, you oh, in in the old days, when you grew something, you put some put aside for seed for next year, but the GMO food doesn't do that. You gotta buy your seed from, Monsanto and, and, DuPont and whoever else makes these kind of things. That's what they want.
We'll just be we'll just be like a big old fat cow with their with their, I can say, teats because that's what cows have. What the that that and we're we're America. We're a big old fat cow, and they just milk our teats when they when they want some more milk out of us. I would assume Canada is the same way with with, the pills, but we're not as plugged up here as in in The States.
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Probably not. I don't know. No. No. Because I talked to some people, I talked to some people in The States that I know personal friends, and they told me that everybody is on some kind of a drug for antipsychotic or some depressant or stuff like that.
[00:39:16] Unknown:
Mario, when and Robert, when I go to when I go to the VA, I'm a veteran and so is John. I go to the VA for, you know, a health checkup or something like that, and they do a summary, you know, that you have a gal there or a guy there that takes down all your para para medical, you know, takes down all your facts. They say, okay, mister Amortha, what drugs are you on? I said, I'm not on any. You're not on any? What? They can't they can't believe it. I'm 73 years old. I said, I don't even like aspirin. And all my life, I've never taken the drug. But, hey, I can tell you, you if you if you had a video camera, if I had a camera at my on my on my phone and sent you pictures or a video recording of it, you see people that have my age. They're on oxygen tanks and wheelchairs and stuff like that. I'm not talking about the wounded vets. I'm talking about people who are there because of nutritional deficiencies.
Everybody's on drugs. Everybody. Am I right,
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John? Oh my god.
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Did I lose John? I don't know. Let me see if I lost John. I think you may have. Yeah. Let me add him to my group again. I don't know how he got lost. Maybe there's a a connection.
[00:40:34] Unknown:
Well, it could be. Or it could be the Illuminati doing this because sometimes we have problems on our show. They they try to set us down. There's always weird stuff that weird stuff that happens sometimes.
[00:40:43] Unknown:
But who went to jail and why? If it's personal, you don't need to say it.
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Mhmm. Well, how long have you guys been doing this show?
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Since February, 02/2011. Over a little over a year. Wow. And we've had, like, we've had a different guest on over the year.
[00:41:05] Unknown:
Hello.
[00:41:06] Unknown:
Okay. You there, John? Did you get cut off?
[00:41:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Welcome back, John.
[00:41:11] Unknown:
Thank you.
[00:41:13] Unknown:
I was just telling him how many people are on drugs. I said, when you go to the VA, they're, hey. They're all on oxygen tanks and this and that and the other thing. John has had some miraculous things happen. I I know this is just shows about taxes, but at some future date, you may wanna talk about you know what glaucoma is, don't you? Yeah. I've heard of it. Yes. Glaucoma. It's serious eye disease and you were you know, the eye hardens and so forth. So, anyway, John has not been able to see anything out of his left eye for ten years and buried it out of his right eye. He got on some nutritional products the other day, which, you know, I'm not here to to, to hustle, but to tell you that, he got on about three months ago.
And after he was on it about two and a half months, hey. We were sitting down downstairs in the, in the entrance to the, to the apartment building. And you know how you have those mailboxes over there, all everybody's mailbox where you go get your mail, certainly dull, silver color. He says, Lenny, he says, you see those mailboxes over there? I said, yeah. He says, I haven't been able to see anything out of my left eye for ten years, and I'm now beginning to see the outlines of those things. That must have been a a wonderful experience.
[00:42:25] Unknown:
Well, it Oh my god. Did you tell John? John, I must say, how how did you feel when you first started to see the outline of the mailbox?
[00:42:34] Unknown:
It felt great. Yeah. And I hopefully, he hope he keeps improving, like, when I get that full site back, but it isn't yet. But, you know It's getting better. It's getting getting a little better. Yeah? Good. I can see that outline on the screen of my computer and so forth of it now, which I used to couldn't.
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And you
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And this was all done by by a fellow, doctor Joel Wallach, who, also has sued our government. He sued the what we call the Food and Drug Administration, which kinda regulates our food and all that sort of thing. Right. And, he sued them eight times and beat them seven seven out of eight times. That's a pretty damn good score. I'd like to have that if I went to a casino. Every every time you threw the dice, seven out of eight times you'd have you'd win. Hey. Would you go to the casino with me, Mario? Of course. Yeah. For sure. I mean, yeah. You don't you don't even have to load the dice.
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Exactly. That'd be wonderful.
[00:43:42] Unknown:
Well, we're let's let's take a ride on the on the wild side, the next time and talk about, this this thing because, hey, your audience and and, you know, you guys are devoted. You know, I did a little study on on your on your, you know, your website and so forth and, you know, talked a little bit to you and so forth. Because John says, well, what kind of guys are these? I says, damn if I know. I I never heard of the guys. And and he says, well, why don't you do a little snooping around and see what you can find out? And I did. What I found out is that you guys are essentially like we are. You're you're probably a year or two younger than we are.
But, I said these guys are they're they're warriors. They're fighters for truth. I don't know how their government will accept them up there because down here, if you're a fighter for truth, hey. You get put in the book. You know, everybody knows that you're a troublemaker, and I'm sure, you know, there's all sorts of conspiracy theories out there that they got all these camps set up and so forth. FEMA camps. Yeah. FEMA camps and unit you name it and so forth and so on. Well, if you call Washington DC right now, you could talk call the justice department. You you you hook into the tax division, the criminal tax division. And you say, I was just speaking or I just heard a a talk show with John and Glenn from Utah on it. You wouldn't even have to use our last names. They would know.
Hell, yes. They'd know. And, you know, if they if they start operating these camps, hey, we'll be the Judas goat, we'll be the first people that they'll they'll pick up and put in there. And and neither John nor I give one rat's butt about that because lives, you know, for for truth and for to fight oppression and tyranny wherever we see it. But there are very few people who will do that. But even though there are few, that reminds me of an old testament story. Perhaps you guys are familiar with it, perhaps you're not. But I'll I'll relay it real quickly. Right.
The guy named, was it Isaiah? No. Not Isaiah. It was, Elias. It's Elijah. Elijah. The prophet. Yeah. He he was, out there battling for the Lord. So he's kind of a wild man out of the desert, sort of like you guys, you know, you know, on motorcycles, so with your leather jackets and so forth and fighting the Illuminati. Yeah. Kind of the wild men of today. And, so he would appear before the king and queen and all that sort of thing, and he would, he would do all sorts of things and so forth. And finally, they put out a warrant for him. Wasn't called a warrant, but it was basically what we know things are warned. That anybody could kill him, that was it.
So he walked all the way from Northern Israel down to Mount Sinai and went up to Mount Sinai where he knew the Lord and appeared to to Moses, and he wanted to, you know, pray to the Lord and if possible, see the Lord and so forth and so on. And, so finally after a few days, the Lord appeared and, I talked to him and he says, Elijah Elijah, what doest thou here? You know, your your station, your post is way up north where I sent you. He says, lord, he says, I came down here to tell you that, no man honors you anymore. And and so I've given up. My spirit is going out of me. He says, Elijah, I have reserved 6,000 men who have not bent the knee to Baal. Baal was the, the false god or was a situation that Bail. Yeah.
Anyway, a small amount of people who have not bent the need of bail. And he says, so get on about your business. I'll take care of the recruiting and so, you know, the the people. So there is what we call a remnant, And there's a remnant in in, I believe, probably every nation in the world, certainly in America. And even though we're small in numbers, we believe John believes, that and I think I speak from his own line. He can he can confront it if he wants to. But John and I both believe that that in the end, if you do your job here, that the Lord will take care of the results. We may be hung. We may be stripped. We may be beaten. We may be doing anything to us. They may take our lives from us. Right. That does that that is in the hands of the Lord. It's not ours to decide.
And I'm not trying to make a big to do about us. There are people like us who are better than us that do the same thing. And perhaps you guys in your own way are also modern Elijah. You're standing up to the powerful people of the world, the great men of the earth. The evilness.
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Yeah. The new world order.
[00:48:22] Unknown:
Go ahead. I'm sorry, John. I've been offline tonight. Go ahead.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Oh, that's the the so I don't know. I I I don't know what, of course, every area of our our government is corrupt today and but this the thing that I have, especially studied is the is the tax system. And, and I've written a book on that. I don't know if you mentioned that or not, William.
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No. We go ahead and and tell them,
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call it taxation by misrepresentation.
[00:48:59] Unknown:
We put in the blog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're putting it on on screen right now.
[00:49:05] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's, you know, one of the early cries in American Revolution was no taxation without representation. And, of course, today, we've got taxation by misrepresentation of the government to us. They represented us an imposition laid upon us by acts of congress when it is not, when they have no authority and they know they don't, And you must voluntarily obligate yourself to it. And so we explain, the old English law and how our law is patterned after that and and how they consider that you voluntarily obligate yourself to the tax by applying the form ten forty return.
But not only do you obligate yourself to the tax, but to all the penalties, including the right to seize your house and your your business and your car to satisfy the tax if you don't pay it, including the right to lock you up in prison for long periods of time, you know, if you don't pay it and try to get out of paying it. And, all of that, they want you to believe is imposed upon the people by acts of congress when its conditions to the contract that you agreed to. And, once the people understand that, hey. Hopefully, we can get rid of the income tax, and free the people up from that type of taxation.
Now isn't that we're against the right of government to tax? They have a right to tax, and they they need tax money. But they don't need a tax system that requires you to report every dime that you make
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and and
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puts a stake, you know, your your house and your business and your car and everything that you have, and the right to put you in prison, there's just no need for that in a tax system. If they went to the income tax or, excuse me, to a a federal sales tax, now in in The United States, the sales tax or taxes by the state governments and the, municipalities. And the federal government has no income tax, But if they went to to an income tax federal government, then there would be no need to report your income. And there would be no reason anybody would ever have to have their home or their car seized.
You know? If they didn't pay, you go buy something. If you don't pay the sales tax, you don't get it. And so that there would be, the people would would have also the choice if they didn't wanna pay that tax. They could cut down on a lot of things. You know, they could raise their own food, sell their own clothing, repair their own car. But, and the government could raise just as much money as they raise now, but nobody would be in peril of these things. And, of course, if we did that also and got rid of the Federal Reserve, this country would see such an economic, burst and growth, it it would astound you. The same is true in Canada.
There there are no need for taxes, and, I guess, they authorize penalties if you don't pay and Of course. And, and and imprisonment and so forth. There are no need for that in a tax system. All that is control. The tax the income tax is not to raise revenue. That's not the purpose of it. The purpose of the income tax is to control the people, make them report what they earn, what they spend, you know, and, put it at everything they own in peril if they don't pay the tax. There's no need for that. If they had the sales tax, they can raise just as much money. They would save the people hundreds of billions of dollars a year in accounting, fees, and filing, you know, preparing their returns.
They would save the government hundreds of billions of dollars every year in administering the income tax. So just right there, you'd have probably a half a trillion dollars that the people would have to spend on commodities rather than the nonsense of of, the income tax system. But the government wouldn't have the control that they have and which they have no right to in the in the first place. In other words, constitutionally, in America, they can't impose those things upon you. You have to volunteer to them. And so, they consider that you do volunteer, but they make you believe that, it's mandatory or mandated by by statute.
And I would rather suppose that your taxes in Canada is is largely like ours, planted after the English system. Now we have one big difference, than than England had and that I suppose you have in Canada, and that is our constitution prohibits them, you know, changing, they can't, well, there was no income tax when this country was founded. The first income tax was enacted in England, in the French English and French war immediately after, the American Revolution. And that was the first time that any income tax was enacted. So in our constitution, it wasn't authorized.
And, in England, there's nothing that prohibits that. That is parliament can pass whatever laws it wants, and there's no written constitution to prohibit it. And I suppose that the same is true in Canada, though I don't know that, but I would think that it is. And so I would think your system is is largely patterned like ours is and but but the thing about our the book, Taxation by Misrepresentation, is we explain what that old English system was, because the court said our system is is patterned after that. And, and so you can look step by step and see how our system is patterned after the English step. But the one big difference, the old English authorities when they wrote on this these subjects, they wrote to explain the various processes and, so that people could understand them.
But our tax laws, they write to confuse and obscure the fact. In other words, they've gotta have statutory authority to do it, but they don't want the the people to know what's in the statute to be able to understand what their rights are. And so they they ensure that each of these processes mirrors the process in England, but they write it in such language that nobody has any idea what it really does unless you understand the old English law. And if you understand the old English law, then you know what that process must conform to, and you can read it and you can see, hey. They have written it to where it does conform to. But if you don't understand that English law, you will not there's no way you can understand our law. And the problem is none of our attorneys have gone back and and studied that. So they've never made the defenses, you know, that was available to the to the subjects of England.
The the king was given his judgment summarily, but the defendants, the subjects had their right to a trial by jury at the execution stage. That is not as normally where you file a complaint and you get to answer, and then there's a judgment. They gave the the king his his judgment summarily and your rights were trial by a jury after the judgment, but before, levy. And nobody understands that. They they scratch their head and can't figure out how the, government can get its its taxes, summarily do that, and meet due process, because they've hidden the fact that to due process, your right to a trial is at the execution state and before levy.
So nobody has ever asserted that in in a hundred years. And, and our courts, our Supreme Court, there was one exception to where they could actually seize in England a person's property before giving them the right to a trial by jury, and that's if the king had an affidavit that the debt was in danger due to the insolvency of the desert or the death of the desert so they could seize his property before it was, you know, distributed, so the king could get his money first, or if the guy was in threat of fleeing the country. But if they didn't have an affidavit of one of those three things, insolvency or death or threat of fleeing, they they had to give them the right to a trial by jury before they could seize their property.
Well, nobody's ever had that right here in The United States even though the the law provides for it. But it does so in such obscure language, the people have not known it. So over a hundred years, we have not had the fundamental rights. We have supposedly free and sovereign people have not had the same fundamental right subjects that the king of England had. And and, the the court the supreme court in as hell as had four cases where they ruled that the seizure of the property without giving an individual a trial, that due process, but all four of them came within that exception of the debtor being either insolvent or deceased or fleeing, the country.
And but in a hundred years, the income tax was enacted in 1913. Here it is 02/2013. In a hundred years, the the supreme court has not taken one case where the individual, was not insolvent, which is the vast majority of the cases, you know, where they seize property. They've not taken one case. So does that sort of give you an idea that the courts are in on this just as well as the legislature? Sure does me. Yeah. For sure. And, and I think that you find the same thing, probably in Canada that, you know, and that and so while our book, Taxation by Misrepresentation, may have absolutely no value to you people in Canada, on the other hand, it may have a lot of value because there's no place you can go and and get these old English authorities that explain what that that system of tax law is under the statute, state, and so forth because they're all out of print and have been for over a hundred and fifty years.
Now when I first they read marriage lessee and they cited it, which was an 1852 case. You know? So that's way back there. And I read that, and they cited these old English authorities that the Supreme Court looked at to to determine what the revenue laws of England were in, 1791 when the fifth amendment was ratified so they could compare our tax laws, with them to see if they corresponded, if the processes in our tax law corresponded to those in the, English law and in order to meet due process. And so when I saw those old authorities, guys by name of Chitty and West and Price and Gilbert, I started looking to get their treatises.
Took me a better part of, you know, a year to be able to locate them because they're all out of print. And, you know, in The United States, we have and and it may apply even in Canada, but a couple of, they call it OCOC and Ireland. And those are two different systems where the books in all the libraries in The United States, at least the major ones, all of their books are listed so that if you wanna find a book, you go have them do a search. If they find it in some library, you get that book on interlibrary loan. And I went to those two, and, hey, a couple of these treatises those four treatises, there's only two libraries in the entire country had them, and they were on microfiche.
But I got copies of them and made copies of the microfiche, read them, and, of course, I've read all four of them several times. And I so I've got a pretty good idea of what that English law was, and I can compare our law. And as I say, I think that in Canada, the people who understand what that old law was and the foundation, therefore, of your tax law, it's you're gonna find it in the same old English authorities. So our book though is written about the American tax law. Basically, it goes into the old English tax law, and and may be of great value to people there in Canada, because these old English authorities, they're all out of print.
So there's no place you can go go read them. But in in our book, taxation by misrepresentation, that The the basics of that, of what they have, are set forth. And, surely, I think we're going to, make, on put on a a CD, all, four of those books in full text. Where can we find these books? Well, you can't.
[01:04:39] Unknown:
No. No. That you've written that you've written. Is it out of is there, like, a website or anywhere?
[01:04:45] Unknown:
Yeah. The web the website is no1040tax.com. That's no, the number's 104zero,tax,dax,.com. No 10 40 tax Com. If you go there, We review three of John's five books, and you can purchase any one. The the the smaller books are $4.99, and the major book in e format is, $14.99, and there's a a paperback I mean, you know, a printed version also that's available. If you buy single copies, it's, pretty pricey, about $32. But if you buy two of them or more, you get a a a substantial discount from the publisher. Comes down to around $20 plus plus shipping.
[01:05:29] Unknown:
Okay. That's that's wonderful. My audience has a few, has a few questions that are dying to ask you and is it and, what what what what do you make of the Sun Tzu petition?
[01:05:43] Unknown:
Well, the Sun Tzu petition, do you want me to answer that, John, or do you wanna go into that? Yeah. Go ahead. The Sun Tzu petition was written by one of John's, long time students. And what it is is this. It's, available for, like I say, $4.99, so it's pretty inexpensive. But what it is, this, this, student of Johnson wrote to the chief counsel, the chief legal counsel of the Internal Revenue Service in Washington, DC. And, basically, what he said was, hey. Look. I I wanna file my taxes, but in one of the regulations that says that there is some income this is a tax regulation put out by the Treasury Department.
Says there is some income that is not taxable by the federal government under our constitution. Okay? So as John said, we we have a certain restrictions on taxation. The government can take as much money as it want, but has to do it in in court with our constitution. And some some income is simply not tax by the federal government because of our constitution. So he said, hey. This this regulation says there's some income that's not tax by the government or constitution. But another regulation says, if I have any of that income that is not taxable for for by the constitution or because congress said it isn't, it isn't taxable, I've gotta separate out the nontaxable income from the taxable income and separate out my expenses proportionally.
Let me give you a reason why they do that. Let's suppose that Mario or Robert, you made a hundred thousand dollars in the last year and you're an American. And maybe 25,000 of that came from some tax free income of some kind. Right. It might it might be tax free bonds or it might be because there's some income that is not taxable by the federal government or the constitution. But you, to make that 25,000, you spent 20,000 in expenses. Maybe you you traveled, you had conferences, you had lawyer fees, and so forth and so on. You still made a $5,000 profit, but but the 20,000, that you spent to get that 25,000, You can't take that out of your the balance of your 75,000 that is taxable, supposedly, and take the 20,000 of expenses that you you accrued getting the tax free income of 25,000.
Take the $20,000 of expenses and move it from the tax free income and move it over into your your, 75,000 taxable income and reduce your taxable income from 75 to 55, you see, because you never spent the 20,000 to get the 75,000. Maybe the 75,000 was from, you know, being managing a food store or something like that. But if you take the 20,000, you on trips, you you made to find out about this tax free income, and you deduct it from your $75,000 of manager's income, now it only looks like you made 55,000 as manager when in fact you made 75,000. So people were cheating on that. They were they were making tax free income over here, spending expenses, but then taking those expenses and putting them over against their their taxable income.
So the government says, if you have tax free income, you've gotta separate out your expenses pro rata or how much it's been on the tax free income and how much you spent on your your regular income. Does that make sense? It does. Okay. Now Yeah. Here's the here's here's here's the buying. So so Sun Tzu, and that wasn't his real name, but he you know, after after the Chinese, a great general back in before before the time of Christ. He said, look, you say there's some income that's not taxable by the federal government and the constitution. Well, I have these items of income, and he named three different items of income behind.
Okay? He says nowhere in the internal revenue code or in the tax regulations can I find a list of what income is not taxable by the federal government under the constitution? So would you please tell me which, if any, of these items of income are not taxable by the federal government so that when I do submit my return, I could separate out those, incomes and the expenses attributed to those incomes so I can file a true and correct income tax return. Because without that information, I don't know, you know, how to submit this. He sent that to the IRS, got no answer back, the chief counsel.
Okay. He then sent it to the two senators and and congressmen that represent him in, in in Utah. He's also in Utah. And got an answer back from one of the the senators, US senator, member of our tea party, I might add, and said, hey. We contacted the IRS and and tried to get an answer for you, and the IRS said they declined to answer your question. Well, the reason they declined to answer the question is Sun Tzu also said, look. I don't want you guys to file a a tax return for me. I'll file my own return as soon as you give me this information. Well, the truth of the matter is that the secretary cannot make a determination as to what income is taxable or what is not taxable for a normal American who's just earning, you know, a regular income and so forth because he knows, and as the secretary knows, that none of the income is taxable unless the person volunteers to it.
All the less with the exception of if he's getting corporate profits or dividends, that sort of thing. But the average person working for a living making, you know, 25, 50, 70 5, a hundred, 2 hundred thousand, the average person working for a living isn't getting money from corporate profits. He's getting that from the sale of his labor. But in order to be taxable, the person has to, file this tax return. Now Sun Tzu was able to do that because he understood he's been a student of John's for about twenty years. He was able to do that because he he understands thoroughly the old English processes as explained by John based on the old English authorities that the Supreme Court quoted. So he quoted back chapter and verse to the in other words, what he did you're you guys are friends, so you'll understand the expression.
He hung the IRS on their own petard. Okay? Okay. In other words, he said, hey. You guys said a, you said b, you said c. Hey. I wanna do a, b, and c, but I can't do it because only you could tell me what fits in a, what fits in b, and what fits in c just to make it real simple. Okay? And until you tell me that, I can't file a return. And if he doesn't file a return, under our constitution, none of it's taxable. Sun Tzu knew that he was taught by John, and the secretary of the treasury knows that as does his chief counsel. But they're not gonna let that out of the bag because if they let that out of the bag, hey, our whole taxes will go down the drain. So anybody is seriously interested in how to how to, approach the IRS or approach your congressmen and senators. You know, John's goal is to say, look. Before if if a guy will not spend $4.99, $5 on learning what's going on with the tax law, then he isn't in he's he's not really a warrior.
You know? So if he'll do that or she will do that, they'll understand what's going on. If we got a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, maybe a couple million of those floating around the halls of congress, how long do you think in that tax system would would last until they revised it and made it made it so it wasn't, wasn't a big lie to the people? Wouldn't last very long, would it?
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No. No. It wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't last that long anyhow. You know? Let me transition into a segue into another section.
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You know that our president, John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Yes. For sure. I know. Yeah. Of course. Everybody knows that in the world. Yeah. You know, we also had another we've had several presidents assassinated, but another president was assassinated. It was named, Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. You know, down in the civil war, war between states, whatever you wanna call it. Well, both of them had something in common. Remember I told you about those three countries that wouldn't, go with the Federal Reserve? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That wars? Yeah. That's what, what, Franklin I mean, what, what, Franklin Roosevelt went along with everything.
Yeah. Guess what? Lincoln and and, Kennedy wouldn't go along with. They wouldn't go along with dollars being come into circulation as Federal Reserve notes as debt. They said we wanna issue treasury bills. In other words, treasury dollars with no interest, and we'll we'll then issue enough so that, you know, you can carry on commerce and so forth. If you go down to the lemonade stand, the little girl who sells lemonade in the summer on the on the sidewalk, And she wants to sell you for a glass a glass of lemonade for 10¢ or 5¢ or whatever they charge up there, a loon. Yeah. Loony. You know, yeah, loony.
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It's a dollar.
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And I know. I'm also a foreign, foreign exchange, demo trader too, so I don't know about the getting it off. I made some good profits on it last month. So I I I salute the loon. But if you don't have 10¢ in your pocket, chances are the little girl is not gonna give you the lemonade. Right. You have to have some ready cash in your pocket. So if that's true, if if it's true for lemonade, it's true for automobile, it's true for everything. You go go down and buy a $25,000, Nissan or something like that. You don't have 25,000 or access to 25,000 in credit. You can't walk out with a car.
Okay? So we do need money in circulation, but Kennedy and, and and and, Lincoln wanted to put into circulation United States dollars that we we we we put in circulation ourselves. Very shortly after they decided to do that. Guess what happened? Bang, bang, bang. You're dead. Does that make sense? Yeah. These these bankers will murder you.
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And kill you. And don't forget that, John f Kennedy spoke about secret societies also in one of his speeches, so that didn't help the matter at all.
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No. He said there's a conspiracy to undermine the and I'm paraphrasing. Undermining the people of The United States and the high office of the presidency. And before I finish my term of office, I'm gonna expose that to the American people. It went to the grave with him that knowledge. Why? Because these people are not above murder, suicide, and, you know, a suicide that really is murder but looks to be suicide. They've got weapons now. They can they can they can dart a person from, you know, a mile of water. I don't know about a mile. But A certain distance. Quite a quite a distance away. They can they can shoot like an ice pellet into you that has poison in it that will kill you that is not detectable, and the ice will melt, and you'll there'll be no evidence in your system.
Wow. I've heard of that. Yeah. They're they're ruthless. You you look at how these people conveniently die and stuff like that. You know what? They want Ruby to kill the the the the the, Lee Harvey Oswald. Hey. You know, those people were I think they were set up just like the nine eleven, you know, the the the nine eleven, you know, bombing of our World Trade Center. Yeah. There's not an intelligent there's not anybody who's possessed with all his mental faculties or her mental faculties who really believes that was done by the Arabs without some help from, you know, high government officials in our government and maybe other governments too. Oh, for sure it was. That that was an inside job. Biggest one ever. Of course.
Of course. I'm not sure that Newtown wasn't an inside job. I'm not certain of it. I don't have all the facts, but, hey, you read some very funny things. I mean, I remembered, you know, the broadcast where they said, hey. There's a second shooter out here that they've got that they've got that they've got hand Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. You never heard of it again. I saw it on TV. You know? They didn't make it up. But after that, boom, it's gone away. Nobody ever talks about the fact that all these killers, you know, they're going around that they use to take away our guns, that these killers are all hopped up on drugs.
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I'm I'm sure that you also heard about the Texas killings, yesterday or someone went on Texas stabbing everybody?
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Or them or something like that? Yeah.
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Exactly. And he had a fascination. He always wanted since he was a kid to kill people.
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Yeah. To stab. And so forth, another one? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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So what the heck? They wanna take your your knives away also.
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Yeah. He had a fantasy. But, you know, you know, you you guys are you youngster John and I are, you know, we're in our seventies, getting on up there. Now, we hope to live to be a 20, a 40 with this, stuff that I wanna talk about on another program if you'll have us back. Of course. But but, We'd love to. But, you kids are gonna live, you know, another fifty, maybe a hundred years. Who knows? I was just reading on the Internet that the average 25 year old today compared with his his his, father and his grandfather is 15 years old in his genetic fifteen years older in his genetics. A 25 year old is really at the place where his grandfather was when he was 40 in terms of diabetes and this and that and the other thing and so forth.
And and doctor Wallach says, if the if the adults of today don't begin supplementing their children, they will live to bury their children. I imagine. I don't know whether either of you has a child, but No. You know, you have you have people your age who do have children. Yes. We do. Can you imagine those those people, your friends, burying their little babies twenty, thirty years from now? No. That's what they're gonna do, Mario. That's what they're gonna do, Robert. I swear to god. And it's all part of the same thing. So the taxes are not an isolated thing. It's it's taxes. It's, GMO modified food.
It's, the the the hormones and stuff they put into our chickens and onto our cows. We got mad cow disease and blah blah blah. It's the lies we have in the medical field. It's the lies we have about money and credit and bankers and who's gonna take out Syria and who's gonna take out Libya and Omar and Gaddafi and Iran, and so forth. Hey. It's all part of the same scheme. You read chapter 23 of, I think it's 23 or is it 18, John? 18. Chapter 18 of the book of Revelation. Now you you folks may be Jewish and you may you may be, just on the old testament, but there's some good No. We're not Jewish. No. We're Christians. Okay. Whatever.
But what I'm saying, even if you were Jewish, you you could you could find wisdom. You know, we can find wisdom everywhere we wanna look for. Yes. Buddha has good wisdom, both of Mohammed has good wisdom and so forth, abuse it right. And of course, you can use, Christianity and was used, for some dreadful things in the middle ages. So it's how man uses the the wisdom that that is brought. But anyway, in chapter 18, it says, hey. That that the great the great, powers of of of this world will be brought down in an hour, in an instant. And the merchants, the great men of the earth will cry over the loss of their merchandise. They'll stand afar off while they see the great Babylon going down and proclaim. Babylon is a sense for the end of its modern powers.
Wow. And it says, and they and they mourn over the lost of their merchandise, which is gold and silver and pearl and and fine woods and this and that, the other thing, and slaves and souls of men. He's talking about the last days, and he says, and thy merchants were the great men of the earth. And by their sorceries, they have deceived all the nations.
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Sorceries. Because that mean medication?
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That could be Sorceries are trickeries.
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Okay. You know, incantations. You ever read Macbeth or hear about Macbeth? Yeah. Yeah. Because I heard somewhere else that sorceries could also mean pharma pharmaceutical stuff.
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It could be. And the and the and the and the and the witches are brewing their their thing, those and they would and they would say chants over the those were sorceries. Those were incantations gonna put puts puts hexes and and spirits on these things. So by their sorcery, by their deceptions, they have deceived all the nations. Well, what what great nation today is so great that it deals in gold and silver and thion and, you know, great woods and so forth, scarlet and silk and all that sort of pearls and ivory and slaves and souls of men. Hey. The most powerful nation in the world is is what? The state. It's my it's my nation. Your nation. Yeah. It's my nation. And and they deal in in gold and silver and this and that and the other, and slaves and souls of men.
Well, John told told me when I took the course with him him way back when in 1991 or something like that, he says, hey. You know, when you sign that form ten forty, you pledge your body, your lands, and your goods, and all the income therefore from as security for the debt to this to this government. And if you sign a joint return that is with your wife, you you you pledge your wife into into bondage. That was how you did it. And that is that is what what what in England they called serfdom. A free man in England, old in merry old England could let's suppose he was on bad times and I was a a great English lord and Mario and Robert, you came along and said, hey. We're having some bad time, Glenn. Could you help us out? I said, well, of course. You two boys, you look like you're strong and healthy and so forth and healthy. I need somebody to milk the cows and somebody to plow the fields and so forth and so forth. I have a three room flat cottage down there you can live in. You can run a few few chickens on the yard. You can have a couple cows and goats and so forth, milk and meat and all that sort of thing. And, but you'll be my serfs, and you gotta you gotta abide by the feudal law. The feudal law was the old English law of, of, France was was brought over by the Norman kings that conquered England, William The Conqueror and all that. They were French.
Okay? So that's where the feud came you know, feudal law came from. You know French, you know, the feud means a duty on the land. Right. Yeah. I would give you some land, but you gotta pay me a fee. Okay? So that was the fee. We we call it fee. They call it a feud. But, so I would say, yeah, you two guys can come here, and you would then volunteer into a condition of servitude or serfdom. I would basically own you. Okay? Everything you had belonged to me, you know, that you got for me. But at any time you didn't like my condition, you say, hey. That Glenn is a a jerk. I don't wanna work with him anymore. Lord Glenn. That that sounds good. I think I'd I'd like that name. Lord Glenn. I don't know if there's any Lord Glenn around, but anyway, we always have a first. But anyway and you guys said, up yours, Lord Glenn. Here, we're giving you back everything we got, you know, from from you, and we're walking off the plantation. We're not walking off the feudal manner. You could do that under English law.
Okay? But you could volunteer in the condition of servitude. And when the Americans sign those forms and forties, what they do is they volunteer their theirselves, their wives, and their families into a voluntary condition of servitude.
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I have a question. Isn't the The US owned by Israel?
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Well, I don't know much about that. You know, you you may be correct. I read all sorts of things about that, but I don't have any factual data. John, do you have any factual data on that? No. But I don't believe it.
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There's also a question of of of on my audience. And,
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I don't know. If you use the term owned in a sense, do they have powerful influence like you say, you know Yeah. Influence the the the Zionists. Yeah. And and, you know, you you're a congressman or senator and say, well, what about the senate what about senator Robert or what about senator Mario? How are they gonna vote? You say, I own them. Don't worry about them. If if you mean that sense, hey. I think you may be close to the truth. I mean, they have very powerful influence. Wouldn't you agree, John? Yeah. In that sense.
Yeah. If and so if you're talking in that sense, does America own us? Like, are are we in bondage to the May? There are a lot of people who would agree with that statement. In bondage to Israel. Yeah. We're in bondage to Israel. You know, could be. Now that doesn't mean that every every Jewish person is bad. No. I have Jewish friends and and all of that. You know? And that many of them don't even know any they they don't even know what's going on themselves. Exactly. They're they're victims just as much as we are. Deceived by the evil people. Of course. So when you talk about Israel, you're talking about the the evil influences that that that Britain Government. Around in Israel. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
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I have another question. What's your take on the 14 amendment has to do with the deception?
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You ought to you ought to let John expostulate on that because he is the the master of the fourteenth amendment. John?
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Well, first, let me say that the the, Sun Tzu petition, why you can buy it separately for $4.99, is part of the taxation by misrepresentation, the the the major book, and it's included in there, and it's $14.99. So a person, you know, if you're interested, you need to buy both of them. If you're interested in both, you get both of them in the taxation by misrepresentation. But as to the fourteenth amendment, the first clause of the fourteenth amendment says that all persons well, first of all, the reason the fourteenth amendment was written was because, the Dred Scott decision before the civil war that ruled that that black people, that anybody other than white people, were not and could not be citizens of The United States or of any of the states, whether they were free or not.
They could not be citizens. And so that that meant, you know, in the law, the laws are not written for men and women. I don't care where you go, in Canada, in England, in The United States, in France, laws are not written for men and women, nor do they address themselves to corporations. Laws address themselves to persons. All laws are written for persons. And a person, while in a general meaning, means a human being, in a legal sense, it does not mean that. In a legal sense, a person is an entity, whether that entity is a natural entity like a human being or an artificial or juristic person like a corporation or a trust.
But the so a person is an entity to whom the law ascribes or imputes rights or duties. And if a law or system of law does not impute to you rights or duties, you're not a person within that law. And so, the Dred Scott decision, when they ruled that that these nobody other than whites could be citizens, They really ruled that these people were not persons. They had no standing in the court, whether they were free or in slavery. A black man could not take you to court. If you stole his horse or beat up on him, he had no access to the court. He had no protection of the law of the law. So after the fourteenth after the civil war, the war itself didn't change that.
He still was not a person, you know, within the meaning of the law. Now the thirteenth amendment, you know, prohibited slavery and involuntary servitude, but in but it didn't prohibit in prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude. It did not prohibit voluntary servitude. But to give the black man some rights and to secure his him himself as a person within the meaning of the law where he had protections in the court and the law, the fourteenth amendment was enacted. And, and the first clause of it says all persons born or nationalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizen of The United States and the state in which they reside.
Now what they did is they created a citizenship for these people that could not be citizens otherwise. But as far as the white people who were citizens, the fourteenth amendment didn't do anything for them. They didn't need it, and it did it created nothing for them. It gave them no benefits and gave them no obligations, and the courts have said that. But it created a citizenship for nonwhites and gave them the protections. However, in a court case later, the supreme court ruled in in, Twining versus New Jersey that these citizens of The United States created by the fourteenth amendment, they didn't have the protection of the bill of rights.
And in another case, the Supreme Court ruled that the only rights they had were those rights granted to them by government. They had no unalienable rights as our declaration of independence says that people have and that the white citizen had. And so, there's two different The fourteenth amendment created a citizenship of The United States, but it was different than the citizens as contemplated by the original constitution. And, in fact, in the first case that the Supreme Court heard, construing the meaning of the, fourteenth amendment was a case known as as the slaughterhouse cases.
And in there, the court said it is clear then that there are two different citizenships, and their privilege and immunities are different, and that they are determined, by the, characteristics characteristics and circumstance within the individual. Now when you look at that, and since then, they've always spoken of the the, that is the Supreme Court, has always spoken of the Fourteenth Amendment citizens as citizens of The United States and the original sovereign citizens as state citizens. And and the state citizen has unalienable rights, but the fourteenth amendment citizen of The United States has only those rights granted to them by government.
Now when it says, that their privileges and immunities, that's their rights and duties with respect to the government, are determined by the different characteristics and circumstances in the individual. But what does that mean? Well, it simply means there is one characteristic that determined what citizenship a person was, and that was race. If you were black or nonwhite, your your citizenship was attributed to the fourteenth amendment. If you're white, it came as a as an unalienable right and endowment of God. Now, hey.
People say, well, that's racist, and you're right. It's racist as hell. It could hardly be more racist. But then as a matter of historical fact, you know, our constitution to begin with, was racist and recognized, you know, that the the black man really wasn't even a person within the law. And when they created the fourteenth amendment, they still didn't give him the same rights. Now, when they wanted to give him the right to vote, they they merely said that either race, what? You got that verbiage as Glenn? Either race, anyway, religion, something or Queen.
Previous condition of servitude, you know, shall, be considered in the other person's right to vote. Well, they could have done the same thing in the fourteenth amendment if they had wanted to give them equal citizenship. They could've just said, hey. Either race, color, or previous condition of servitude shall be a a condition, bearing upon citizenship, but they didn't. Now the government doesn't want to admit that. They try to make everybody believe all the great great civil war amendments made all men equal and so forth, and that's a bunch of bullshit. Excuse me on the verbiage there. I should have been a little more polite and said that's a a bunch of male bureau male full buying dung, you know, but, which is a technical legal term
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for BS. But
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but they tell people there's only one citizenship and we're we're all free. But, hey, they treat us all and govern us all as though we're fourteenth amendment citizens. And the term they use to denote that in the law is resident because in the fourteenth amendment, it says all persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States and the state in which they reside. So when they ask you if you're a resident or what your resident's address is, most people think they're asking you for where you live. If that's not what they're asking at all, they're asking your political status.
Are you a fourteenth amendment citizen? And where do you reside that we can contact you to perform the duties that you have? So, yeah, the fourteenth amendment has a very, very big bearing upon, all of this. And, basically, when you sign that form ten forty, what you do when you relook what you obligate yourself to is you obligate yourself to first dibs. The government's first dibs on every all of your income. They could choose whatever part of that they want. Now there could hardly be a better condition of servitude than that. That's voluntary servitude.
And, basically, you're right back into that condition of the fourteenth amendment citizen, because all of his rights were granted to him by government. You're right back to the old feudal law that is, for the protection of the the Lord. You're in a condition of servitude to the Lord. And to the fourteenth amendment, what it did, the the federal government, guaranteed to these people its protection against the evil state governments because all of the of the, Southern states after the civil war enacted what was known as the black laws where they actually prohibited the the black people from having any rights and there was very little difference than before, you know, the civil war. So they enacted the fourteenth amendment to where the federal government, well, the fourteenth amendment required second clause after the citizenship, prohibiting any state from, bridging the the rights of these, citizens of The United States, the fourteenth amendment citizens, because they would have the same rights as the citizens of the state.
And so the fourteenth amendment, basically, these people are in a condition of of feudal servitude to the federal government for its protection. And when you voluntarily obligate yourself into the condition of servitude by signing a form ten forty, which is basically what you do, they now the government is now from under all of the restraints of the constitution because you have just waived all of those and agreed to be subject to its regulation as a a person in the condition of servitude. And and, of course, the authority for them to do that is the thirteenth amendment that that because it didn't prohibit voluntary servitude and is considered and authorized it. And the and the fourteenth amendment then, is the condition of servitude that you're in.
So I think, that's sufficient on that subject. Yeah. I have, another question.
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When do you think that this global economic collapse is gonna happen?
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Well, I don't know. You know, I don't know that anybody knows. I know Lindsey Williams, who is says he has an end with all these, people that govern the world, and they say it won't be for at least three or four years. But, then it'll happen as soon as they think that they can effectuate it. And, of course, that has been their goal from before this this The United States was established. Ben Franklin went to England and he saw all the poverty that they had there. We didn't have any of that in America. And the people asked me why we didn't have an American, He said, because we print our own money. And it's not loaned in an interest. And they print only enough to carry on, you know, the the commerce.
Well, the, Bank of England heard that, and they moved upon parliament, passed a law that they couldn't do that. And within a year, we had the same kind of poverty here they had in England, and that was the major cause of of the revolution. It wasn't taxation by misrepresentation or by, you know Without representation. Without representation. Franklin says we would have been happy to have paid that little tax if we had had our ability to create our money. But, no, they they had to use the Crown's money, which was the Bank of England's money loaned into existence, and and that was the major cause of the American Revolution.
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And so,
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the American people, by doing that, they thumped their nose at the at the, the Central Bank of England, and then we've had the internal conflict forever of the central bank trying to get its nose in, and and we've had two or three of them or about three or four of them. And their their goal has been, ultimately, to collapse our economy, destroy this country as a free nation, and as an example to the world of the free nation, and to establish a one world government. And they have been the instigators of every war that we have been in, The revolutionary war and the war of eighteen twelve and the civil war and the first world war and the second world war, Vietnam and Korea, and what's going on over in The Middle East now? War on terror.
Yeah. And the war on terror. The war on terror. They have been the instigators of all of those. And, you know, Werner Von Braun, the famous German rocket scientist who, later came here to The United States and was, the one that was responsible for our first successful rock. Pointed out told his secretary, hey. They're going to have first a war on terrorism that will be followed by a war from a supposed invasion of aliens in outer space. And, because they always gotta have a war to create the exigency of a reason to pay the right types of people and impose upon them their taxes, and it is that's their plan.
When we got a war on terror and, hey, there's there there no there is no terrorism. The terrorists is the damn government.
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And it seems that the war on the a the the alien and the alien the war with the aliens is gonna be coming soon.
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Oh, they're already start. Yeah. Prepping us for that. Yeah.
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More and more, they're just, prepping us with the movies, the books, the culture.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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And I think, see, that our our who was it? The the guy that was ahead of the Lockheed's Dunk Works. Right now. But he said one time, said anything that you can think of, we're already way ahead of that. I believe that we have spaceships that that travel to outer space. The American government has that, but they're not gonna let the people know that. And, you know, Richard Hopeland points out that, the what few some of the films that they've released from NASA has released for Mars and that shows ancient civilizations there.
And, but, hey, they're not gonna let the people know that, but that doesn't mean, of course, they will use all that for, a war from outer space. But we have technology that is so far beyond being that the people have ever imagined. In fact, I listened to a guy on, coast to coast telling me about a pyramid that's underground up in Alaska that create that that has been there for over thousands of years, and it creates enough electricity will generate enough electricity to power all of Canada. But, hey, they don't tell anybody about it. But our government is there, and, this guy went there to all supplies into the place.
And, so third thing that are so far, you know, so many thing, we we really understand. But the the future war on terror, it's or on, aliens. It's all planned. And, and we've got the technology to make it look like they are aliens.
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But Project Bluebeam. What was that? Project Bluebeam. Project Bluebeam? Blue. Blue, b l u e b e a m.
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I don't know anything about that. Do you know anything about that, John?
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No? Okay. It's a it's a program that that can simulate, like, like, Jesus or God coming down or aliens. It's like a holographic
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Oh, projection.
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Yeah. Just look. Just, you could search, project Bluebeam, and I'll give you all the information on that.
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You know, I I know that, several years ago, Charles, Prince Charles appeared somewhere, some foreign nation, and and holographically and delivered a speech, looked just like he was there, but he wasn't.
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So imagine what they can do with the technology that are part thirty to forty to fifty years and beyond what what we know now what we have now.
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Oh, they might they might do a hologram of somebody that looks like Jesus appearing in the sky. Well, they plan on doing that that and maybe Mohammed,
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depending on some kind of future, future Christ like figure coming down. Mhmm. But you know you know the the well, you know, the the mark of the beast, the image of the beast when it's gonna a statue or something is gonna appear to make the image talk. It could be something like that. You know, they have the technology now. They're just putting everything into place, I find.
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Well, you're probably right. Yeah.
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For sure.
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On the war on terrorism, and they've used that to to impose on the people. You know, you go to the airport, and they're gonna grow you and your wife and your kids. And And and, they got the Homeland Security, acting as though they're the Brown Church in Germany, and they've got laws enacted to authorize the arrest of of of citizens and the holding of them without counsel, without the right to the right to the president to determine he wants to assassinate and not without any, you know, anything but his own decision and and the, let the legislation to try to take away or regulate what guns you can have.
And, you know Drones.
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Drones. Drones. Yeah.
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But what what they're authorizing, the people in Congress and in the administration and in courts who have taken a an oath to defend The United States against all its enemies foreign or domestic. They are major enemies we have. Not only are they the major enemies we have, but they are bought and sold by, sold by the world bankers who have been our major enemies from day one, from back, as I say, in Franklin's time when they put upon the the colonies that they couldn't use their own script, and they have been our major enemies from that day to this. And by their money, they control congress and the president.
Those guys are just figureheads.
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They're gonna do what they're told. They better do they better do us. You know what's gonna happen?
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John, tell them, what the bankers, are supposed to have said about being at war with American conquering and so on. Said, hey. We've we've already we've already beaten Europe, and now we're gonna do it in The US.
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Well, yeah, they they brag that that they have conquered America, and it's just a matter of, the winding up, you know, scenes, to collapse the economy and the government and, have everybody in such dire circumstances that they will be willing to accept the the, international bankers coming in and rescuing them. And when you look at it, what do the bankers got that they could do? They just have control of the money supply. And if if we got rid of that, we have our own money supply. We could get rid of of the unemployment that we have now. That's all calculated and caused by the bankers. That's all part of their plan.
And if we had a congress that had the guts to do what was right, they would kick those boys out and and establish an honest money system, and our economy would take off like gangbusters. And the same is true with other countries. All of the countries in the world are indebted, and they've got so much money and, you know, and these derivatives and so forth that their Federal Reserve is buying up simply to transfer those debts of the big bankers and their derivatives to the people so they can collapse the economy. Eventually, the derivatives will collapse because there's not enough money in the world to pay them off, and it's all been part of the ruse, to destroy our economy and our government.
But not only our economy and our government, but that of all the world, of Canada and all of Europe and, hey, the entire world.
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Wow. That's a lot of information, but, unfortunately, we're out of time.
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Yeah. We could we could have just stayed on for hours, but we gotta get going, unfortunately.
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And, we we'd love to have you guys back on very soon, both of you, John and also, Glenn. And it was wonderful having you guys. You guys are wealth of information, and we were honored to have you guys on. And, any final closing thoughts you'd like to say to our viewers?
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Well, I just wanna thank you for having us on, and we sure would like to come back. And for any of the anybody that's interested in our book, taxation by misrepresentation, well, go to noll1040.com. No. 1040tax.com. 10 40 tax Com.
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Alright. So it's been great, and we'll have you back on very soon. Thanks guys for coming on the show. It's very, very, very interesting, and it's just you could go on and on for hours.
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Alright. We appreciate it. You're welcome.
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Bye bye. Bye. Alright. Thanks. Good night. Bye. Yeah. So, Rob, that was too much information.
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A lot more information. We could've went on the whole night, like, you know, to have one of those nine hour shows like, like like used to do, back in the old the old vocal days. You know?
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I wish he would come on and look at our show, but anyhow But anyhow, we'll be back next week with another wonderful show, and love you all, and God bless you. Thank you. Yes. And because it wouldn't be for you, we would be talking to ourselves,
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like, in harmony. Do do that. It does happen. Thank you.
Oh, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of MNR TV. Tonight, we're gonna we're gonna be talking about income taxes with our special guest, Glenn Amport and John w Benson. They will be coming on, and we'll talk about taxation by misrepresentation, and it's gonna be a good show. They've got a lot of information about taxes, and I know one thing in life is for sure is death and taxes. But before we get to that, here's my co host, the mad man himself from Montreal, Mario.
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Oh, I did my homework. You know me before coming, on here.
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Oh.
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Hi, Robert. How are you? I'm good. Hi, Glenn.
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Welcome to MNI show. It's a it's a pleasant it's a pleasant to have you on our show today.
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Great. Do you want me to add John? Yeah. Yeah. Add John also.
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You might as well. We'll have two guests on. At the same time. That this is spectacular.
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Hey, Mario. How are you? I'm good. You? Good.
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Finally, we get to talk. K?
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Yeah. For sure. For sure. I'm just calling up John on the other line. So, he'll be coming up. Yeah. So he's coming up shortly, I suppose.
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Yeah. Rob, are you able to see what I'm posting?
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Hi, John. You there? Yeah. I got Robert and Mario. Mario, can you hear John? I can hear him loud and clear. Could everybody hear me? I could hear you. Welcome, John, to the MNI show. Okay. I'm I'm on Robert's thing, so I don't see what you're typing. I can only I can see what Robert would type, but I don't see what you type.
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Oh, well, no. I'm I was just showing people how how much taxes how much taxes we're paying here in Quebec according to a lot of well, according to what the news is saying, we're paying as much taxes as France. You know how France is paying that much taxes?
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Well, you'll have everybody moving to Russia, won't you? That's what the real French are doing. They're moving to Russia. To Russia? That's very,
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why? What what what's the special about Russia?
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Well, that's
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where he moved. Green card, you come to Russia, and their their maximum tax rate would be 15%.
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Fifteen %. One five. Yeah. Okay.
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Well, that's how much we're paying, 15%.
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Fifteen?
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Yeah. Yeah. Look. From a dollar
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from a dollar, this is what we're paying. We're paying a dollar while we have one tax, which is 5¢, then then we have another tax and 10¢. So total is a dollar 15 on a dollar. That's how much we're we're paying of taxes.
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Oh, no. He's in in in in, Russia, you're only paying a total of 15% on the dollar, 15¢ on the dollar.
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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Now I get it. Okay.
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Well, that's what we're paying too.
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Oh, you're paying a you're paying a 15%.
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Like like like, I I I could make perhaps I could make an analogy if anyone would like. I bought this this this leather jacket last year for a hundred and $49. After the taxes, it came to $170.
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And how much was it originally? $1.49. So then you you added it and it came at $1.79?
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Oh, no. $1.70.
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Well, $1.71. Well, yeah, because the taxes went up also. Yeah. It was $1.70.
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It was $1.70, but no. How much, Mario? Because it went up. It says it. I put on the screen. It's $1.71 exactly. I can't make it bigger, unfortunately. Yeah. I see it. Yeah. Yeah. So you see for a jacket, you see $1.49. It comes up to $1,170.
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Well, now that's a sales tax, isn't it?
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Yeah. Well, both. Yeah. Exactly.
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The the Canadian one and the the Quebec provincial tax.
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So, what we're talking about are two different things. The income tax, at least in The United States differs from sales tax.
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Okay.
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Please explain us
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explain it to us because we're confused. Well, an income tax, you know, sales tax is is is called an, an indirect tax. In other words, it can only reach those people who actually choose to to, engage in the track transaction over which they, charge attacks. So for example, if they charge, for leather jackets, attacks, you can exercise the right not to buy the leather jacket. Okay? But if they charge it on food, nobody can exercise the right to not buy food. That's right. You know? So so but an income tax is different, Mario, in the sense that at the end of the year, you you, like, a guy that makes, let's say, $50,000 as a bricklayer, then he has to pay taxes on the 50,000 that he earned even though he never spent it on anything.
Okay? Mhmm. So that's in addition to a sales tax. We have an income tax and a sales tax over here in The US.
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Well, we also have that. No? We have both. We're still paying back income taxes here.
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Has that that sort of thing? They don't let anything escape them.
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And the thing is, without these taxes, they're probably, hiring the taxes more in The States, and it's on the verge of a, a total collapse.
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Well, yeah. You know, we've got, we've got all the government, that we can afford to buy. And, and and there's no doubt that, that the taxes here are gonna go up, up, up with the, you know, they're talking about Obamacare right now, and that and that really is a, an income tax, you know, and it's gonna raise everybody's taxes, you know, a couple thousand dollars a year, the average family.
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Come Yeah. We're in bad we're in bad shape over here. And can't everybody fight this? And who who who's taking all this money? Who who is it? It's the point. It's the point. The bank the banksters. Right? The bankers?
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Well, let John answer that. John is an expert on that.
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Okay, John.
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Of course, the the government, alleges that they're taking it for their benefit, but, basically, in The United States and well, in all of the major Western countries, you have a central bank, and they have total control of the money system. That is they create everything that that you have in Canada as money at your central bank, and the Federal Reserve of the United States creates everything as we have this money. And so, the only way any and they loan that money into existence. So the only way that you ever get any money in circulation is somebody makes a loan. That means that you can never repay it because all you have in circulation is the amount that was loaned, but you've gotta pay back the amount that was loaned plus the interest, you know, that you agreed to.
And so you're always in a condition then of of economic servitude. Now that's what the world bankers have given us. The Rothschilds and the Warburgs and the Rockefellers and the several other, families Put some families. Who stole the banking system.
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Now what that means in in playing, you know, a simple example, let's suppose you're a farmer and you had a a farm, and you needed a loan for a tractor, and you you you borrowed a hundred thousand dollars for this big combine or something like that. You know, you'd have to you'd have to pay back the hundred thousand dollars plus the interest, but the only way you could pay back that interest, is you don't have any extra money because you only had $200,000, and he wants that back bus interest, you're gonna have to sell some of your farm to come up with the extra $20,000 in interest, let's say.
So every every time the government lends money out, that is every time the Federal Reserve lends money to the United States government and the government wants to pay it back, the only way they can pay it back is they gotta get the hundred thousand or, in this case, a hundred billion or a hundred trillion, who's counting at those those rates Mhmm. Has has to go back to the people, gather the hundred thousand back, plus they have to take some of the of the of the people's property, their houses, their businesses, or or, you know, that kind of thing, their real estate, you name it. So that's the that's the the sickness of lending money into, currency into currency by debt.
You always have to give the currency back plus more that you didn't have. So you have to sell some of your your your your assets, your personal assets. That's a dreadful disease. And and every major nation in the world is a plague by and, you know, you go you go over to, places like, Syria where we're having a big problem right now. Iran No problem. And and and, Omar Gaddafi and, in what was he now? Libya. Libya. Those three banks those three countries all had the same problem. They didn't allow a central bank to come in there. And so is it any surprise that we wanna go to war with it? Will would this include North Korea?
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I would think. Right?
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I don't know much about North Korea. Maybe John does. No. I don't. But, it wouldn't surprise me, but I don't I don't know factually about North Korea, to be honest with you. But Iran, Syria, and the Middle Eastern countries we know. Well, yeah. You know, the Middle Eastern countries said, the heck with that, or at least some of them said the heck with that, central reserve. So, they bowed out of it. And the next thing you know, the United States government is in there bombing them away.
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Well, and you you go back to Russia. The czars would not allow a central bank. So the central bankers, finance the Russian revolution. Western bankers, gave millions of of dollars to Lenin and Trotsky and the boys, to pull off their revolution so that they can establish a central bank. Of course, they didn't do it quite like the bankers would want, but, nevertheless, they did. And so when you say who's behind it, it's the bankers. And when you look at it, if the entire money that you had in circulation in Canada was a million dollars, and I know it's more than that, but just for example Okay. If it was a million dollars and it's loaned into existence at 10% or 5%.
The end of the year, you owe the bankers a hundred and 5,000,000, but all of the money in circulation is only a hundred million. So you're 5,000,000 short. So you gotta loan more money to cover, you know Not debt. The interest. And, eventually, that catches up where there's a certain part of the population can't pay their debt, their interest, and therefore, they have what we is known as a banker's harvest. You have a collapse. And so they go and seize the property of the unfortunate ones that wasn't able to make enough money, to pay their interest on their debt or, you know, their debt and the interest. So those people, they scarf up all their property.
And, so the root problem to all of this is the central banks. And the interest, in fact, the, income tax that we have in The United States was enacted the same year that the congress authorized the establishment of the Federal Reserve. And, really, it was part of a condition of the Federal Reserve. Nineteen thirteen.
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Right?
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Beg your pardon? Wasn't it 1913? Yes. Right. So we've had it for basically, a hundred years. And during that time, they have totally inflated our money to the point that it's you know, it'll buy about 3¢ today. A dollar will buy about 3¢ today than it would have in 1913.
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Unbelievable.
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And and, you know, you've got the same problem up there in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Great Britain, and so forth, that the bankers at Germany, the bankers, like John said, if they lent Canada a million dollars at the end of the year, the the the Canadian government would have to pay back a million dollars to the, central bank, but they only have actual cash of $1,000,000. So they've gotta come up with another 50,000 with the 50,000 doesn't exist. So they go back to the bankers, say, would you please, kind sirs, give us another 50,000? Oh, yes. We will so that you can pay the the interest back. But on the 50,000, we're gonna charge you interest also. But that isn't the end of the story because it's a but we need another million for next year.
Oh, here's another million, and we can go through the same process, next December 31 on that. So what happens is over a period of time, the bank central bankers end up harvesting the nation, the assets of the nation. That's exactly what's going on. And our Federal Reserve down here in our income tax system hey. In 1945, there was a central banker who said, hey. When you have paper money like this, you don't have gold and silver. There's no need for, an income tax anymore because you can print all the money you want. But the purpose of the income tax is twofold. One, to suck out the extra cash that they that they that the bankers lend into circulation so you don't have a Banana Republic where you have 30% inflation a year. So they need to while they lend a million into circulation, they gotta take a bunch out, 50,000 or a hundred thousand or something like that at the bottom, and they take that out from the most vulnerable people typically.
And and that's one of the reasons for the income tax. And the second reason is what they call social engineering. Social engineering means you can direct tax benefits to the people that you favor. So, look, all our politicians with very little exception are bought and sold for in this way. They they pass all these tax laws and so forth for the benefit of these big corporations with the and other laws too, not just tax laws, laws on nutrition and health and driving and, you know, who can practice law in the courts, who can practice medicine, who can do all the rest of the sort of thing. They pack all these and who gets tax benefits, you know, for cars and making automobiles and stuff like that. They have all these benefits with big corporations. And the understanding is that after they pass those, nice those nice favorable tax laws and benefits, corporate welfare, then guess what?
All the people who voted for those things get their little kickbacks in the form of of, campaign contributions. And we have a nice little law down here that when you when you give campaign contributions to a congressman or senator or or whatever, maybe a congresswoman, that when she, retires, if there's anything left over, she gets to keep that tax free. Wouldn't that a nice little benefit? Nancy Pelosi, our sec our our one of our speakers, was a speaker of the house. She's had three or four different positions in the congress. She's one, she's been a congresswoman, and she gets a pension for that. Two, she was a speaker. She gets a pension for that. And three, she was a minority leader, and she gets a pension for that. When she retires, she will get $800,000 a year Wow. For the rest of her life.
She won't even need all of that money. She should donate And and, you know, and and and what is she doing up there? She should donate that money. Making our guns away. She's, putting these confiscatory taxes on people and so forth. But but Robert and Mario, I beg you to understand that our country is no different from yours. I'm sure if I knew all the facts about your situation, you'd find the same thing that's going out there on the great beloved
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country of of Canada. Because it's fun by the same rulers, the Roxas
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family and all of the guys. And the and the and the rocker fellers and the Rock's house. And all those people, the Illuminati that, that Robert favors so much. You know, he wants to find all 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati I read. Hey. They're not particular who they get the money from or who they rape Robin Pillage, be it Russian, be it, American, be it Canadian, be it South African. That money is all the same to them, and they're in the green business, the color of money.
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They're even be beyond that. They're in the one world government business where everything is basically owned and controlled by the big bankers, and their their allowed purpose is to, destroy the United States government, to collapse its economy, and destroy our government and the governments of every other nation. So they will then impose their feudal law rule over all the world and what they call their one world government. And so their valid purpose is not just money. They got more money than they know what to do with now, but it's control, and it's total control of all of the people.
And that's their about purpose.
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Now John has has has had had, a vocation or an avocation in his life to study our tax laws and a few other things that go on in this country and stuff like that. So at some point, I hope I hope you'll get into the fact, you know, that they are not only in the, the the money business, they're all they're also in the slavery business. We have in in in this country a nice little tax form called the form ten forty. IRS is our internal revenue service. That's our, you know, our tax voice with the government. And each year, every American has to file what they call a form ten forty, which is the the number of the, the tax, form that we're expected to file.
But John has made a study of that, and, I hope that maybe this will be the time frame to explain to you exactly what that form ten forty is. And when he does, you'll find out, hey, that they're in the slave business. They're the modern day slavers. So, John, why don't you take them there?
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Yeah. Well Sure. They, they write to laws to make everybody believe that congress has imposed on the people liability to the income tax by statute. And then the duty to file this form ten forty return each year, reporting everything they earned and taking what deductions they allow them. And when I say they, that the government allows them, and then computing the amount of tax they owe and paying the tax. So they try to make everybody believe that that is required as a matter of law passed by Congress, but that's not the truth. The truth of the matter is is that they do not have any constitutional authority to impose such a tax on the people, and the people must voluntarily obligate themselves to it.
And and they but they've tricked everybody into believing that, they must file that return. And they've got a a and so the the return itself is a special type of contract. And to understand our system of taxation here in The United States and the true nature or effect of that form ten forty, you gotta understand the laws of England in 1791 when our fifth amendment to the constitution was written. Now the fifth amendment to the constitution provides that, the government can take nothing from a person, cannot deprive them of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
And and so, the the court, when they first considered the meaning of that clause due process of law, they said, well, the constitution doesn't define that, and therefore, we must look back to to the laws of England to see what was due process when the fifth amendment was written because that's what due process will be. And unless there was a provision to the constitution that prohibited it. And so then, the question before the court in this case, which was which was known as Murray's lessee versus Hoboken Land Improvement Company, the question before the court was the constitutionality of the government summary seizure of property to satisfy a tax.
Now by summary seizure, we mean without giving them the right to trial by jury before the seizure. And, so they look back to England, the court, the supreme court, to see if in 1791 there was some process that authorized that type of a seizure, and they found that there was. While normally a person was given a right to a a trial before a judgment, but in the revenue cases, they gave the king his judgment summarily. That is you couldn't challenge, have your right to a trial by jury. The king was given his judgment summarily. They had a couple of different processes that were summary in nature, and one of them was a a type of contract known as a statute staple because there was an act of parliament in 1353 entitled the statute of the staple.
Now and at that time, all the laws of England were written in French. In French? It was the Norman Norman French king that was ruling it. Okay. And and Staple and, of course, you guys in Montreal probably know this, but us, Southerners down here, we we don't know that. But Staple and the French meant market. So that was a a statute for the marketplace or it was really a a statue for the commodity traders of the day. Now, actually, it was a simply an amendment of the statute, the Mercatoribus or statute of merchants or the law merchant that was enacted in December. And the reason they enacted it is because the foreign merchants were were refusing to trade in England because if they got stiffed on a on a contract, it took too long to collect it through the common law.
And so they were just saying, hey. We won't trade there. Well, that represented a a big chunk of taxes from the king. Plus, the people wanted the commodities, particularly the the spirits, you know, the booze and the wine from French, or from France and Italy and and other things. So they passed this special system of contract law known as the law merchant, and the statue of the state will just amended that. And so the form ten forty, when you really look at it, it that's what it mirrors. And in this Murray's lessee case, the Supreme Court said that for a process to meet due process, it must mirror or in principle correspond to a process in use in England in 1791.
If it does and it's not prohibited by the constitution, then it meets due process. But not only does it meet due process, constitutionally, it is the '17, '91 process in England. And when you look at that and look at a form ten forty and see what it mirrors or in principle corresponds to, you see that it corresponds to this statute staple contract. Now that contract itself was given the force and effect of a judgment at common law, and so the king could assess that. Now assessment was a technical term in the exchequer of England, which was had two sides, the treasury side, the king's treasury, and the other side was his high court of common law having jurisdiction over all matters of his revenue.
And so, a statue's table was given the force and effect of a judgment, and it was assessed as recorded then in the treasury side of the exchequer on the judgment role of the exchequer. So it became a recorded common law judgment, and that could be enforced as such. And and, but it had to be voluntary because it had some very different conditions than most contracts. First of all, the debtor conveyed title to everything he owned to the, creditor with a defeasance that that defeated the conveyance if it was performed, and that was prompt payment.
But if the debt was not promptly paid on time, then the creditor had a title to everything the debtor owned and could go out and seize it, including seizing his body and holding it until the debt was fully satisfied from the proceeds of the property of the debtor that was seized. And that's exactly the way our tax system works here. But those people don't have any idea of that.
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Somebody started to say something, I think. Yeah. I was gonna I was just gonna add to what John was saying. So in in in in in in point of, law, what happens is that when, when we sign the form ten forty, what we do is we as a as a as a an entire population, all 300,000,000 of us or however many taxpayers there are supposed to be. We pledge our body, lands, and goods as security for the taxes we're gonna pay. So what the federal government does when it says, hey. We're, we're in, you know, hundred million dollars or hundred billion dollars, in deficit and so forth. We guarantee that with our bodies, our lands, and goods. So and we guarantee that to whom?
To the international bankers. So in effect, international bankers through the medium of the federal government and the form ten forty have a security interest, a bond on all the labor, all the bodies, all the property of everybody in The United States. So who owns America?
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A. The
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federal the federal, reserve banks and their and their partners and all that sort of thing, They own them. And who are their their their bag men here today? It's just like the mafia. You know, you go around and collect your your, your monthly, protection fee. Right. Who are their bag men today? The bag men are the congressmen and senators.
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They're bought and paid for. And so is the president. Right?
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That's why John and I went to prison, John, for six years, me for nine years, because we dared to stand up and say these things in public seminars across this country.
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And you went to jail for that, only that, or there was more stuff to it?
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Well, you know, I mean, I I could I could I could send you a copy of the indictment. But, basically, what the what the government does is it says in its laws that we taught people how to pay the taxes that the form 10 form ten forty appears to require. In other words, what the IRS said you owed, that's what we told people to pay. But then we have a law that says, hey. After you pay the tax, if you wanna complain about the tax in any way, all you have to do is file an administrative claim for refund with the Internal Revenue Service. Tell them what your beef is, what your complaint is. And if you're denied, you can then go into the court and litigate that issue all the way up to the Supreme Court. That's our right.
Okay? So that's what we taught people. And they said to us, well, mister Ambor, we reckon that you taught about a thousand or 1,200 people. But we had we we told them how to file these papers. We had over a hundred thousand of these kinds of paper that you were teaching people about filed with the IRS. So we gotta put you away. If you'd done one or two of these sort of thing, it would not have been a crime. But when you taught a thousand people and they taught another, for every one we taught, there was 10 more that did some with it or, you know, actually a hundred more. If if that thing expanded within three years, the tax system wouldn't be broke. So they had to put us on ice.
That's the real reason. Okay? Now I'm not saying this to complain. I'm not bitter about it. I do a lot of things in prison. But what I'm saying is that if you think this country is free or you think Canada is free, hey. Give your head a shake. Take another thought because no one is free as long as the bankers own all the assets and they own the body, lands, and goods of all the people in America. They do the same in Canada. They do the same every in every industrialized nation. And that's why we are America with our powerful military. Why do you think we're having all these wars? It isn't about oil and so forth and so on. It isn't about any of that stuff. It's about putting out a business These these nations have dared to stand up to the international bankers. So when I when I read about Robert saying I wanna I wanna battle the, 13 bloodlines of the, Illuminati, hey. That's who he's battling.
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Exactly. Well, you know I mean, the thing is, is there any way to stop these bankers? I mean, they're above the law.
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You can't do it legally. Yeah. There's there's there's several ways to do it. I mean, one is if, you know, you had a popular uprising that came down to to blood the streets, like the French revolution back in, you know, the seventeen nineties or whatever. We we hope that we're not at that stage. We we we hope we don't have to go through that. Our our constitution, and I'm sure you have something like it in Canada, our constitution is such that if the people awoke, you know, awaken to the to what's really going on here, they could they could say to their congressmen and senators, hey. If you don't stop this, this charade that's going on, if you don't put these bankers out of business, and we don't want it you lend lend the dollars into circulation as a debt.
They and if you don't do it, we're gonna vote you out of office. The people ultimately have control. So what what does our media do? Hey. The media is bought paid for too because they're part of the the big corporations. They they lull the people to sit to to sleep. And I have a guy named there's a guy named, what was his name? John in, New York, the great, author. Manufactured consent was the name of the book. And what he says is what we we have a government that is that the the we say that the, the right of the government to rule the people is governed by their consent. You know, we put that in our declaration of independence.
And so how do they get our consent? Hey. They lull the people to sleep just like it did in ancient Rome with with circuses and food and bread in the streets. So they give us all sorts of benefits, and they can put all sorts of, you know, basketball and football. I'm not against sports and all that sort of thing, but we make big to dos about things that often don't matter. But the real stuff that matters, it goes on behind closed doors. Like the Obamacare bill, this tax bill for increased health cost.
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Shoot. They they control the health issues. They they control the health, pharmaceutical companies also. Right? I would imagine.
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Exactly. Big what we call big pharma. Right. Because why do you think we have in America all these, shootings at Newtown and this, that, and the other thing? Because all the kids are hopped up on all kinds of Ritalin and all kinds of other drugs and so forth and so on. And there's plenty of research out there that you can read. Legitimate research from from from recognized people, not conspiracy people, recognize when you get kids on these kind of drugs and so forth, there's all sorts of unintended side effects. And And one of them is they get angry and they get uncontrollable and they get into rages and so forth. And what do they do? Hey. They grab the nearest gunner. Now they're grabbing knives, and they're gonna rip up, their other fellow kids in school and so forth. And that gives the government an excuse to take away our guns. Once they take away our guns, hey. We're all sick. We're all, on drugs. We're all overweight. We're all got diabetes, dah dah dah dah dah, heart disease, and so forth and so on. So we got you've got it like, when I was in prison, every every prison has in the federal system. They have twice a day what they call pill line.
Pill line is where you go get your meds and your meds like Zoloft and and and Thorazine and all that sort of thing. And you you live in dormitories, you know, separate dormitories. So maybe there's seven dormitories on a compound. So they have a loudspeaker system. They say pill line pill line pill line. And Mario and Robert, as I live and breathe, I swear to you on on on the stack of Bibles a mile high, that the kids, the people would literally run to the pharmacy to get their drugs. And I asked this for a few of them because I got to, you know, get to got to know a little bit. I says, why do you take all those damn drugs and stuff like that? They say, Glenn, we're cheating the government out of its time. When I'm on those drugs, I'm in outer space. I'm not even here.
That's why I take the drugs. And that's what they want in America. They want a bunch of dumbed down sick people who are on drugs that they can control and food, GMO, modified food they can control. So I'll say, well, the, the straight people will eat, but the gays won't eat. So we'll just put the we'll just put San Francisco and LA, you know, parts of LA, they're gays, all that sort of thing. We'll just put them on a restricted diet or no diet at all. Or we don't like, Libya, so we'll just cut off the food supply to Libya. They won't have any more food because the GMO stuff that they got today hey. You can't, you know, you oh, in in the old days, when you grew something, you put some put aside for seed for next year, but the GMO food doesn't do that. You gotta buy your seed from, Monsanto and, and, DuPont and whoever else makes these kind of things. That's what they want.
We'll just be we'll just be like a big old fat cow with their with their, I can say, teats because that's what cows have. What the that that and we're we're America. We're a big old fat cow, and they just milk our teats when they when they want some more milk out of us. I would assume Canada is the same way with with, the pills, but we're not as plugged up here as in in The States.
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Probably not. I don't know. No. No. Because I talked to some people, I talked to some people in The States that I know personal friends, and they told me that everybody is on some kind of a drug for antipsychotic or some depressant or stuff like that.
[00:39:16] Unknown:
Mario, when and Robert, when I go to when I go to the VA, I'm a veteran and so is John. I go to the VA for, you know, a health checkup or something like that, and they do a summary, you know, that you have a gal there or a guy there that takes down all your para para medical, you know, takes down all your facts. They say, okay, mister Amortha, what drugs are you on? I said, I'm not on any. You're not on any? What? They can't they can't believe it. I'm 73 years old. I said, I don't even like aspirin. And all my life, I've never taken the drug. But, hey, I can tell you, you if you if you had a video camera, if I had a camera at my on my on my phone and sent you pictures or a video recording of it, you see people that have my age. They're on oxygen tanks and wheelchairs and stuff like that. I'm not talking about the wounded vets. I'm talking about people who are there because of nutritional deficiencies.
Everybody's on drugs. Everybody. Am I right,
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John? Oh my god.
[00:40:19] Unknown:
Did I lose John? I don't know. Let me see if I lost John. I think you may have. Yeah. Let me add him to my group again. I don't know how he got lost. Maybe there's a a connection.
[00:40:34] Unknown:
Well, it could be. Or it could be the Illuminati doing this because sometimes we have problems on our show. They they try to set us down. There's always weird stuff that weird stuff that happens sometimes.
[00:40:43] Unknown:
But who went to jail and why? If it's personal, you don't need to say it.
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Mhmm. Well, how long have you guys been doing this show?
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Since February, 02/2011. Over a little over a year. Wow. And we've had, like, we've had a different guest on over the year.
[00:41:05] Unknown:
Hello.
[00:41:06] Unknown:
Okay. You there, John? Did you get cut off?
[00:41:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Welcome back, John.
[00:41:11] Unknown:
Thank you.
[00:41:13] Unknown:
I was just telling him how many people are on drugs. I said, when you go to the VA, they're, hey. They're all on oxygen tanks and this and that and the other thing. John has had some miraculous things happen. I I know this is just shows about taxes, but at some future date, you may wanna talk about you know what glaucoma is, don't you? Yeah. I've heard of it. Yes. Glaucoma. It's serious eye disease and you were you know, the eye hardens and so forth. So, anyway, John has not been able to see anything out of his left eye for ten years and buried it out of his right eye. He got on some nutritional products the other day, which, you know, I'm not here to to, to hustle, but to tell you that, he got on about three months ago.
And after he was on it about two and a half months, hey. We were sitting down downstairs in the, in the entrance to the, to the apartment building. And you know how you have those mailboxes over there, all everybody's mailbox where you go get your mail, certainly dull, silver color. He says, Lenny, he says, you see those mailboxes over there? I said, yeah. He says, I haven't been able to see anything out of my left eye for ten years, and I'm now beginning to see the outlines of those things. That must have been a a wonderful experience.
[00:42:25] Unknown:
Well, it Oh my god. Did you tell John? John, I must say, how how did you feel when you first started to see the outline of the mailbox?
[00:42:34] Unknown:
It felt great. Yeah. And I hopefully, he hope he keeps improving, like, when I get that full site back, but it isn't yet. But, you know It's getting better. It's getting getting a little better. Yeah? Good. I can see that outline on the screen of my computer and so forth of it now, which I used to couldn't.
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And you
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And this was all done by by a fellow, doctor Joel Wallach, who, also has sued our government. He sued the what we call the Food and Drug Administration, which kinda regulates our food and all that sort of thing. Right. And, he sued them eight times and beat them seven seven out of eight times. That's a pretty damn good score. I'd like to have that if I went to a casino. Every every time you threw the dice, seven out of eight times you'd have you'd win. Hey. Would you go to the casino with me, Mario? Of course. Yeah. For sure. I mean, yeah. You don't you don't even have to load the dice.
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Exactly. That'd be wonderful.
[00:43:42] Unknown:
Well, we're let's let's take a ride on the on the wild side, the next time and talk about, this this thing because, hey, your audience and and, you know, you guys are devoted. You know, I did a little study on on your on your, you know, your website and so forth and, you know, talked a little bit to you and so forth. Because John says, well, what kind of guys are these? I says, damn if I know. I I never heard of the guys. And and he says, well, why don't you do a little snooping around and see what you can find out? And I did. What I found out is that you guys are essentially like we are. You're you're probably a year or two younger than we are.
But, I said these guys are they're they're warriors. They're fighters for truth. I don't know how their government will accept them up there because down here, if you're a fighter for truth, hey. You get put in the book. You know, everybody knows that you're a troublemaker, and I'm sure, you know, there's all sorts of conspiracy theories out there that they got all these camps set up and so forth. FEMA camps. Yeah. FEMA camps and unit you name it and so forth and so on. Well, if you call Washington DC right now, you could talk call the justice department. You you you hook into the tax division, the criminal tax division. And you say, I was just speaking or I just heard a a talk show with John and Glenn from Utah on it. You wouldn't even have to use our last names. They would know.
Hell, yes. They'd know. And, you know, if they if they start operating these camps, hey, we'll be the Judas goat, we'll be the first people that they'll they'll pick up and put in there. And and neither John nor I give one rat's butt about that because lives, you know, for for truth and for to fight oppression and tyranny wherever we see it. But there are very few people who will do that. But even though there are few, that reminds me of an old testament story. Perhaps you guys are familiar with it, perhaps you're not. But I'll I'll relay it real quickly. Right.
The guy named, was it Isaiah? No. Not Isaiah. It was, Elias. It's Elijah. Elijah. The prophet. Yeah. He he was, out there battling for the Lord. So he's kind of a wild man out of the desert, sort of like you guys, you know, you know, on motorcycles, so with your leather jackets and so forth and fighting the Illuminati. Yeah. Kind of the wild men of today. And, so he would appear before the king and queen and all that sort of thing, and he would, he would do all sorts of things and so forth. And finally, they put out a warrant for him. Wasn't called a warrant, but it was basically what we know things are warned. That anybody could kill him, that was it.
So he walked all the way from Northern Israel down to Mount Sinai and went up to Mount Sinai where he knew the Lord and appeared to to Moses, and he wanted to, you know, pray to the Lord and if possible, see the Lord and so forth and so on. And, so finally after a few days, the Lord appeared and, I talked to him and he says, Elijah Elijah, what doest thou here? You know, your your station, your post is way up north where I sent you. He says, lord, he says, I came down here to tell you that, no man honors you anymore. And and so I've given up. My spirit is going out of me. He says, Elijah, I have reserved 6,000 men who have not bent the knee to Baal. Baal was the, the false god or was a situation that Bail. Yeah.
Anyway, a small amount of people who have not bent the need of bail. And he says, so get on about your business. I'll take care of the recruiting and so, you know, the the people. So there is what we call a remnant, And there's a remnant in in, I believe, probably every nation in the world, certainly in America. And even though we're small in numbers, we believe John believes, that and I think I speak from his own line. He can he can confront it if he wants to. But John and I both believe that that in the end, if you do your job here, that the Lord will take care of the results. We may be hung. We may be stripped. We may be beaten. We may be doing anything to us. They may take our lives from us. Right. That does that that is in the hands of the Lord. It's not ours to decide.
And I'm not trying to make a big to do about us. There are people like us who are better than us that do the same thing. And perhaps you guys in your own way are also modern Elijah. You're standing up to the powerful people of the world, the great men of the earth. The evilness.
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Yeah. The new world order.
[00:48:22] Unknown:
Go ahead. I'm sorry, John. I've been offline tonight. Go ahead.
[00:48:27] Unknown:
Oh, that's the the so I don't know. I I I don't know what, of course, every area of our our government is corrupt today and but this the thing that I have, especially studied is the is the tax system. And, and I've written a book on that. I don't know if you mentioned that or not, William.
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No. We go ahead and and tell them,
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call it taxation by misrepresentation.
[00:48:59] Unknown:
We put in the blog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're putting it on on screen right now.
[00:49:05] Unknown:
Yeah. And that's, you know, one of the early cries in American Revolution was no taxation without representation. And, of course, today, we've got taxation by misrepresentation of the government to us. They represented us an imposition laid upon us by acts of congress when it is not, when they have no authority and they know they don't, And you must voluntarily obligate yourself to it. And so we explain, the old English law and how our law is patterned after that and and how they consider that you voluntarily obligate yourself to the tax by applying the form ten forty return.
But not only do you obligate yourself to the tax, but to all the penalties, including the right to seize your house and your your business and your car to satisfy the tax if you don't pay it, including the right to lock you up in prison for long periods of time, you know, if you don't pay it and try to get out of paying it. And, all of that, they want you to believe is imposed upon the people by acts of congress when its conditions to the contract that you agreed to. And, once the people understand that, hey. Hopefully, we can get rid of the income tax, and free the people up from that type of taxation.
Now isn't that we're against the right of government to tax? They have a right to tax, and they they need tax money. But they don't need a tax system that requires you to report every dime that you make
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and and
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puts a stake, you know, your your house and your business and your car and everything that you have, and the right to put you in prison, there's just no need for that in a tax system. If they went to the income tax or, excuse me, to a a federal sales tax, now in in The United States, the sales tax or taxes by the state governments and the, municipalities. And the federal government has no income tax, But if they went to to an income tax federal government, then there would be no need to report your income. And there would be no reason anybody would ever have to have their home or their car seized.
You know? If they didn't pay, you go buy something. If you don't pay the sales tax, you don't get it. And so that there would be, the people would would have also the choice if they didn't wanna pay that tax. They could cut down on a lot of things. You know, they could raise their own food, sell their own clothing, repair their own car. But, and the government could raise just as much money as they raise now, but nobody would be in peril of these things. And, of course, if we did that also and got rid of the Federal Reserve, this country would see such an economic, burst and growth, it it would astound you. The same is true in Canada.
There there are no need for taxes, and, I guess, they authorize penalties if you don't pay and Of course. And, and and imprisonment and so forth. There are no need for that in a tax system. All that is control. The tax the income tax is not to raise revenue. That's not the purpose of it. The purpose of the income tax is to control the people, make them report what they earn, what they spend, you know, and, put it at everything they own in peril if they don't pay the tax. There's no need for that. If they had the sales tax, they can raise just as much money. They would save the people hundreds of billions of dollars a year in accounting, fees, and filing, you know, preparing their returns.
They would save the government hundreds of billions of dollars every year in administering the income tax. So just right there, you'd have probably a half a trillion dollars that the people would have to spend on commodities rather than the nonsense of of, the income tax system. But the government wouldn't have the control that they have and which they have no right to in the in the first place. In other words, constitutionally, in America, they can't impose those things upon you. You have to volunteer to them. And so, they consider that you do volunteer, but they make you believe that, it's mandatory or mandated by by statute.
And I would rather suppose that your taxes in Canada is is largely like ours, planted after the English system. Now we have one big difference, than than England had and that I suppose you have in Canada, and that is our constitution prohibits them, you know, changing, they can't, well, there was no income tax when this country was founded. The first income tax was enacted in England, in the French English and French war immediately after, the American Revolution. And that was the first time that any income tax was enacted. So in our constitution, it wasn't authorized.
And, in England, there's nothing that prohibits that. That is parliament can pass whatever laws it wants, and there's no written constitution to prohibit it. And I suppose that the same is true in Canada, though I don't know that, but I would think that it is. And so I would think your system is is largely patterned like ours is and but but the thing about our the book, Taxation by Misrepresentation, is we explain what that old English system was, because the court said our system is is patterned after that. And, and so you can look step by step and see how our system is patterned after the English step. But the one big difference, the old English authorities when they wrote on this these subjects, they wrote to explain the various processes and, so that people could understand them.
But our tax laws, they write to confuse and obscure the fact. In other words, they've gotta have statutory authority to do it, but they don't want the the people to know what's in the statute to be able to understand what their rights are. And so they they ensure that each of these processes mirrors the process in England, but they write it in such language that nobody has any idea what it really does unless you understand the old English law. And if you understand the old English law, then you know what that process must conform to, and you can read it and you can see, hey. They have written it to where it does conform to. But if you don't understand that English law, you will not there's no way you can understand our law. And the problem is none of our attorneys have gone back and and studied that. So they've never made the defenses, you know, that was available to the to the subjects of England.
The the king was given his judgment summarily, but the defendants, the subjects had their right to a trial by jury at the execution stage. That is not as normally where you file a complaint and you get to answer, and then there's a judgment. They gave the the king his his judgment summarily and your rights were trial by a jury after the judgment, but before, levy. And nobody understands that. They they scratch their head and can't figure out how the, government can get its its taxes, summarily do that, and meet due process, because they've hidden the fact that to due process, your right to a trial is at the execution state and before levy.
So nobody has ever asserted that in in a hundred years. And, and our courts, our Supreme Court, there was one exception to where they could actually seize in England a person's property before giving them the right to a trial by jury, and that's if the king had an affidavit that the debt was in danger due to the insolvency of the desert or the death of the desert so they could seize his property before it was, you know, distributed, so the king could get his money first, or if the guy was in threat of fleeing the country. But if they didn't have an affidavit of one of those three things, insolvency or death or threat of fleeing, they they had to give them the right to a trial by jury before they could seize their property.
Well, nobody's ever had that right here in The United States even though the the law provides for it. But it does so in such obscure language, the people have not known it. So over a hundred years, we have not had the fundamental rights. We have supposedly free and sovereign people have not had the same fundamental right subjects that the king of England had. And and, the the court the supreme court in as hell as had four cases where they ruled that the seizure of the property without giving an individual a trial, that due process, but all four of them came within that exception of the debtor being either insolvent or deceased or fleeing, the country.
And but in a hundred years, the income tax was enacted in 1913. Here it is 02/2013. In a hundred years, the the supreme court has not taken one case where the individual, was not insolvent, which is the vast majority of the cases, you know, where they seize property. They've not taken one case. So does that sort of give you an idea that the courts are in on this just as well as the legislature? Sure does me. Yeah. For sure. And, and I think that you find the same thing, probably in Canada that, you know, and that and so while our book, Taxation by Misrepresentation, may have absolutely no value to you people in Canada, on the other hand, it may have a lot of value because there's no place you can go and and get these old English authorities that explain what that that system of tax law is under the statute, state, and so forth because they're all out of print and have been for over a hundred and fifty years.
Now when I first they read marriage lessee and they cited it, which was an 1852 case. You know? So that's way back there. And I read that, and they cited these old English authorities that the Supreme Court looked at to to determine what the revenue laws of England were in, 1791 when the fifth amendment was ratified so they could compare our tax laws, with them to see if they corresponded, if the processes in our tax law corresponded to those in the, English law and in order to meet due process. And so when I saw those old authorities, guys by name of Chitty and West and Price and Gilbert, I started looking to get their treatises.
Took me a better part of, you know, a year to be able to locate them because they're all out of print. And, you know, in The United States, we have and and it may apply even in Canada, but a couple of, they call it OCOC and Ireland. And those are two different systems where the books in all the libraries in The United States, at least the major ones, all of their books are listed so that if you wanna find a book, you go have them do a search. If they find it in some library, you get that book on interlibrary loan. And I went to those two, and, hey, a couple of these treatises those four treatises, there's only two libraries in the entire country had them, and they were on microfiche.
But I got copies of them and made copies of the microfiche, read them, and, of course, I've read all four of them several times. And I so I've got a pretty good idea of what that English law was, and I can compare our law. And as I say, I think that in Canada, the people who understand what that old law was and the foundation, therefore, of your tax law, it's you're gonna find it in the same old English authorities. So our book though is written about the American tax law. Basically, it goes into the old English tax law, and and may be of great value to people there in Canada, because these old English authorities, they're all out of print.
So there's no place you can go go read them. But in in our book, taxation by misrepresentation, that The the basics of that, of what they have, are set forth. And, surely, I think we're going to, make, on put on a a CD, all, four of those books in full text. Where can we find these books? Well, you can't.
[01:04:39] Unknown:
No. No. That you've written that you've written. Is it out of is there, like, a website or anywhere?
[01:04:45] Unknown:
Yeah. The web the website is no1040tax.com. That's no, the number's 104zero,tax,dax,.com. No 10 40 tax Com. If you go there, We review three of John's five books, and you can purchase any one. The the the smaller books are $4.99, and the major book in e format is, $14.99, and there's a a paperback I mean, you know, a printed version also that's available. If you buy single copies, it's, pretty pricey, about $32. But if you buy two of them or more, you get a a a substantial discount from the publisher. Comes down to around $20 plus plus shipping.
[01:05:29] Unknown:
Okay. That's that's wonderful. My audience has a few, has a few questions that are dying to ask you and is it and, what what what what do you make of the Sun Tzu petition?
[01:05:43] Unknown:
Well, the Sun Tzu petition, do you want me to answer that, John, or do you wanna go into that? Yeah. Go ahead. The Sun Tzu petition was written by one of John's, long time students. And what it is is this. It's, available for, like I say, $4.99, so it's pretty inexpensive. But what it is, this, this, student of Johnson wrote to the chief counsel, the chief legal counsel of the Internal Revenue Service in Washington, DC. And, basically, what he said was, hey. Look. I I wanna file my taxes, but in one of the regulations that says that there is some income this is a tax regulation put out by the Treasury Department.
Says there is some income that is not taxable by the federal government under our constitution. Okay? So as John said, we we have a certain restrictions on taxation. The government can take as much money as it want, but has to do it in in court with our constitution. And some some income is simply not tax by the federal government because of our constitution. So he said, hey. This this regulation says there's some income that's not tax by the government or constitution. But another regulation says, if I have any of that income that is not taxable for for by the constitution or because congress said it isn't, it isn't taxable, I've gotta separate out the nontaxable income from the taxable income and separate out my expenses proportionally.
Let me give you a reason why they do that. Let's suppose that Mario or Robert, you made a hundred thousand dollars in the last year and you're an American. And maybe 25,000 of that came from some tax free income of some kind. Right. It might it might be tax free bonds or it might be because there's some income that is not taxable by the federal government or the constitution. But you, to make that 25,000, you spent 20,000 in expenses. Maybe you you traveled, you had conferences, you had lawyer fees, and so forth and so on. You still made a $5,000 profit, but but the 20,000, that you spent to get that 25,000, You can't take that out of your the balance of your 75,000 that is taxable, supposedly, and take the 20,000 of expenses that you you accrued getting the tax free income of 25,000.
Take the $20,000 of expenses and move it from the tax free income and move it over into your your, 75,000 taxable income and reduce your taxable income from 75 to 55, you see, because you never spent the 20,000 to get the 75,000. Maybe the 75,000 was from, you know, being managing a food store or something like that. But if you take the 20,000, you on trips, you you made to find out about this tax free income, and you deduct it from your $75,000 of manager's income, now it only looks like you made 55,000 as manager when in fact you made 75,000. So people were cheating on that. They were they were making tax free income over here, spending expenses, but then taking those expenses and putting them over against their their taxable income.
So the government says, if you have tax free income, you've gotta separate out your expenses pro rata or how much it's been on the tax free income and how much you spent on your your regular income. Does that make sense? It does. Okay. Now Yeah. Here's the here's here's here's the buying. So so Sun Tzu, and that wasn't his real name, but he you know, after after the Chinese, a great general back in before before the time of Christ. He said, look, you say there's some income that's not taxable by the federal government and the constitution. Well, I have these items of income, and he named three different items of income behind.
Okay? He says nowhere in the internal revenue code or in the tax regulations can I find a list of what income is not taxable by the federal government under the constitution? So would you please tell me which, if any, of these items of income are not taxable by the federal government so that when I do submit my return, I could separate out those, incomes and the expenses attributed to those incomes so I can file a true and correct income tax return. Because without that information, I don't know, you know, how to submit this. He sent that to the IRS, got no answer back, the chief counsel.
Okay. He then sent it to the two senators and and congressmen that represent him in, in in Utah. He's also in Utah. And got an answer back from one of the the senators, US senator, member of our tea party, I might add, and said, hey. We contacted the IRS and and tried to get an answer for you, and the IRS said they declined to answer your question. Well, the reason they declined to answer the question is Sun Tzu also said, look. I don't want you guys to file a a tax return for me. I'll file my own return as soon as you give me this information. Well, the truth of the matter is that the secretary cannot make a determination as to what income is taxable or what is not taxable for a normal American who's just earning, you know, a regular income and so forth because he knows, and as the secretary knows, that none of the income is taxable unless the person volunteers to it.
All the less with the exception of if he's getting corporate profits or dividends, that sort of thing. But the average person working for a living making, you know, 25, 50, 70 5, a hundred, 2 hundred thousand, the average person working for a living isn't getting money from corporate profits. He's getting that from the sale of his labor. But in order to be taxable, the person has to, file this tax return. Now Sun Tzu was able to do that because he understood he's been a student of John's for about twenty years. He was able to do that because he he understands thoroughly the old English processes as explained by John based on the old English authorities that the Supreme Court quoted. So he quoted back chapter and verse to the in other words, what he did you're you guys are friends, so you'll understand the expression.
He hung the IRS on their own petard. Okay? Okay. In other words, he said, hey. You guys said a, you said b, you said c. Hey. I wanna do a, b, and c, but I can't do it because only you could tell me what fits in a, what fits in b, and what fits in c just to make it real simple. Okay? And until you tell me that, I can't file a return. And if he doesn't file a return, under our constitution, none of it's taxable. Sun Tzu knew that he was taught by John, and the secretary of the treasury knows that as does his chief counsel. But they're not gonna let that out of the bag because if they let that out of the bag, hey, our whole taxes will go down the drain. So anybody is seriously interested in how to how to, approach the IRS or approach your congressmen and senators. You know, John's goal is to say, look. Before if if a guy will not spend $4.99, $5 on learning what's going on with the tax law, then he isn't in he's he's not really a warrior.
You know? So if he'll do that or she will do that, they'll understand what's going on. If we got a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, maybe a couple million of those floating around the halls of congress, how long do you think in that tax system would would last until they revised it and made it made it so it wasn't, wasn't a big lie to the people? Wouldn't last very long, would it?
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No. No. It wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't last that long anyhow. You know? Let me transition into a segue into another section.
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You know that our president, John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Yes. For sure. I know. Yeah. Of course. Everybody knows that in the world. Yeah. You know, we also had another we've had several presidents assassinated, but another president was assassinated. It was named, Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. You know, down in the civil war, war between states, whatever you wanna call it. Well, both of them had something in common. Remember I told you about those three countries that wouldn't, go with the Federal Reserve? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That wars? Yeah. That's what, what, Franklin I mean, what, what, Franklin Roosevelt went along with everything.
Yeah. Guess what? Lincoln and and, Kennedy wouldn't go along with. They wouldn't go along with dollars being come into circulation as Federal Reserve notes as debt. They said we wanna issue treasury bills. In other words, treasury dollars with no interest, and we'll we'll then issue enough so that, you know, you can carry on commerce and so forth. If you go down to the lemonade stand, the little girl who sells lemonade in the summer on the on the sidewalk, And she wants to sell you for a glass a glass of lemonade for 10¢ or 5¢ or whatever they charge up there, a loon. Yeah. Loony. You know, yeah, loony.
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It's a dollar.
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And I know. I'm also a foreign, foreign exchange, demo trader too, so I don't know about the getting it off. I made some good profits on it last month. So I I I salute the loon. But if you don't have 10¢ in your pocket, chances are the little girl is not gonna give you the lemonade. Right. You have to have some ready cash in your pocket. So if that's true, if if it's true for lemonade, it's true for automobile, it's true for everything. You go go down and buy a $25,000, Nissan or something like that. You don't have 25,000 or access to 25,000 in credit. You can't walk out with a car.
Okay? So we do need money in circulation, but Kennedy and, and and and, Lincoln wanted to put into circulation United States dollars that we we we we put in circulation ourselves. Very shortly after they decided to do that. Guess what happened? Bang, bang, bang. You're dead. Does that make sense? Yeah. These these bankers will murder you.
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And kill you. And don't forget that, John f Kennedy spoke about secret societies also in one of his speeches, so that didn't help the matter at all.
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No. He said there's a conspiracy to undermine the and I'm paraphrasing. Undermining the people of The United States and the high office of the presidency. And before I finish my term of office, I'm gonna expose that to the American people. It went to the grave with him that knowledge. Why? Because these people are not above murder, suicide, and, you know, a suicide that really is murder but looks to be suicide. They've got weapons now. They can they can they can dart a person from, you know, a mile of water. I don't know about a mile. But A certain distance. Quite a quite a distance away. They can they can shoot like an ice pellet into you that has poison in it that will kill you that is not detectable, and the ice will melt, and you'll there'll be no evidence in your system.
Wow. I've heard of that. Yeah. They're they're ruthless. You you look at how these people conveniently die and stuff like that. You know what? They want Ruby to kill the the the the the, Lee Harvey Oswald. Hey. You know, those people were I think they were set up just like the nine eleven, you know, the the the nine eleven, you know, bombing of our World Trade Center. Yeah. There's not an intelligent there's not anybody who's possessed with all his mental faculties or her mental faculties who really believes that was done by the Arabs without some help from, you know, high government officials in our government and maybe other governments too. Oh, for sure it was. That that was an inside job. Biggest one ever. Of course.
Of course. I'm not sure that Newtown wasn't an inside job. I'm not certain of it. I don't have all the facts, but, hey, you read some very funny things. I mean, I remembered, you know, the broadcast where they said, hey. There's a second shooter out here that they've got that they've got that they've got hand Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. You never heard of it again. I saw it on TV. You know? They didn't make it up. But after that, boom, it's gone away. Nobody ever talks about the fact that all these killers, you know, they're going around that they use to take away our guns, that these killers are all hopped up on drugs.
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I'm I'm sure that you also heard about the Texas killings, yesterday or someone went on Texas stabbing everybody?
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Or them or something like that? Yeah.
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Exactly. And he had a fascination. He always wanted since he was a kid to kill people.
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Yeah. To stab. And so forth, another one? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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So what the heck? They wanna take your your knives away also.
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Yeah. He had a fantasy. But, you know, you know, you you guys are you youngster John and I are, you know, we're in our seventies, getting on up there. Now, we hope to live to be a 20, a 40 with this, stuff that I wanna talk about on another program if you'll have us back. Of course. But but, We'd love to. But, you kids are gonna live, you know, another fifty, maybe a hundred years. Who knows? I was just reading on the Internet that the average 25 year old today compared with his his his, father and his grandfather is 15 years old in his genetic fifteen years older in his genetics. A 25 year old is really at the place where his grandfather was when he was 40 in terms of diabetes and this and that and the other thing and so forth.
And and doctor Wallach says, if the if the adults of today don't begin supplementing their children, they will live to bury their children. I imagine. I don't know whether either of you has a child, but No. You know, you have you have people your age who do have children. Yes. We do. Can you imagine those those people, your friends, burying their little babies twenty, thirty years from now? No. That's what they're gonna do, Mario. That's what they're gonna do, Robert. I swear to god. And it's all part of the same thing. So the taxes are not an isolated thing. It's it's taxes. It's, GMO modified food.
It's, the the the hormones and stuff they put into our chickens and onto our cows. We got mad cow disease and blah blah blah. It's the lies we have in the medical field. It's the lies we have about money and credit and bankers and who's gonna take out Syria and who's gonna take out Libya and Omar and Gaddafi and Iran, and so forth. Hey. It's all part of the same scheme. You read chapter 23 of, I think it's 23 or is it 18, John? 18. Chapter 18 of the book of Revelation. Now you you folks may be Jewish and you may you may be, just on the old testament, but there's some good No. We're not Jewish. No. We're Christians. Okay. Whatever.
But what I'm saying, even if you were Jewish, you you could you could find wisdom. You know, we can find wisdom everywhere we wanna look for. Yes. Buddha has good wisdom, both of Mohammed has good wisdom and so forth, abuse it right. And of course, you can use, Christianity and was used, for some dreadful things in the middle ages. So it's how man uses the the wisdom that that is brought. But anyway, in chapter 18, it says, hey. That that the great the great, powers of of of this world will be brought down in an hour, in an instant. And the merchants, the great men of the earth will cry over the loss of their merchandise. They'll stand afar off while they see the great Babylon going down and proclaim. Babylon is a sense for the end of its modern powers.
Wow. And it says, and they and they mourn over the lost of their merchandise, which is gold and silver and pearl and and fine woods and this and that, the other thing, and slaves and souls of men. He's talking about the last days, and he says, and thy merchants were the great men of the earth. And by their sorceries, they have deceived all the nations.
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Sorceries. Because that mean medication?
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That could be Sorceries are trickeries.
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Okay. You know, incantations. You ever read Macbeth or hear about Macbeth? Yeah. Yeah. Because I heard somewhere else that sorceries could also mean pharma pharmaceutical stuff.
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It could be. And the and the and the and the and the witches are brewing their their thing, those and they would and they would say chants over the those were sorceries. Those were incantations gonna put puts puts hexes and and spirits on these things. So by their sorcery, by their deceptions, they have deceived all the nations. Well, what what great nation today is so great that it deals in gold and silver and thion and, you know, great woods and so forth, scarlet and silk and all that sort of pearls and ivory and slaves and souls of men. Hey. The most powerful nation in the world is is what? The state. It's my it's my nation. Your nation. Yeah. It's my nation. And and they deal in in gold and silver and this and that and the other, and slaves and souls of men.
Well, John told told me when I took the course with him him way back when in 1991 or something like that, he says, hey. You know, when you sign that form ten forty, you pledge your body, your lands, and your goods, and all the income therefore from as security for the debt to this to this government. And if you sign a joint return that is with your wife, you you you pledge your wife into into bondage. That was how you did it. And that is that is what what what in England they called serfdom. A free man in England, old in merry old England could let's suppose he was on bad times and I was a a great English lord and Mario and Robert, you came along and said, hey. We're having some bad time, Glenn. Could you help us out? I said, well, of course. You two boys, you look like you're strong and healthy and so forth and healthy. I need somebody to milk the cows and somebody to plow the fields and so forth and so forth. I have a three room flat cottage down there you can live in. You can run a few few chickens on the yard. You can have a couple cows and goats and so forth, milk and meat and all that sort of thing. And, but you'll be my serfs, and you gotta you gotta abide by the feudal law. The feudal law was the old English law of, of, France was was brought over by the Norman kings that conquered England, William The Conqueror and all that. They were French.
Okay? So that's where the feud came you know, feudal law came from. You know French, you know, the feud means a duty on the land. Right. Yeah. I would give you some land, but you gotta pay me a fee. Okay? So that was the fee. We we call it fee. They call it a feud. But, so I would say, yeah, you two guys can come here, and you would then volunteer into a condition of servitude or serfdom. I would basically own you. Okay? Everything you had belonged to me, you know, that you got for me. But at any time you didn't like my condition, you say, hey. That Glenn is a a jerk. I don't wanna work with him anymore. Lord Glenn. That that sounds good. I think I'd I'd like that name. Lord Glenn. I don't know if there's any Lord Glenn around, but anyway, we always have a first. But anyway and you guys said, up yours, Lord Glenn. Here, we're giving you back everything we got, you know, from from you, and we're walking off the plantation. We're not walking off the feudal manner. You could do that under English law.
Okay? But you could volunteer in the condition of servitude. And when the Americans sign those forms and forties, what they do is they volunteer their theirselves, their wives, and their families into a voluntary condition of servitude.
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I have a question. Isn't the The US owned by Israel?
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Well, I don't know much about that. You know, you you may be correct. I read all sorts of things about that, but I don't have any factual data. John, do you have any factual data on that? No. But I don't believe it.
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There's also a question of of of on my audience. And,
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I don't know. If you use the term owned in a sense, do they have powerful influence like you say, you know Yeah. Influence the the the Zionists. Yeah. And and, you know, you you're a congressman or senator and say, well, what about the senate what about senator Robert or what about senator Mario? How are they gonna vote? You say, I own them. Don't worry about them. If if you mean that sense, hey. I think you may be close to the truth. I mean, they have very powerful influence. Wouldn't you agree, John? Yeah. In that sense.
Yeah. If and so if you're talking in that sense, does America own us? Like, are are we in bondage to the May? There are a lot of people who would agree with that statement. In bondage to Israel. Yeah. We're in bondage to Israel. You know, could be. Now that doesn't mean that every every Jewish person is bad. No. I have Jewish friends and and all of that. You know? And that many of them don't even know any they they don't even know what's going on themselves. Exactly. They're they're victims just as much as we are. Deceived by the evil people. Of course. So when you talk about Israel, you're talking about the the evil influences that that that Britain Government. Around in Israel. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
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I have another question. What's your take on the 14 amendment has to do with the deception?
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You ought to you ought to let John expostulate on that because he is the the master of the fourteenth amendment. John?
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Well, first, let me say that the the, Sun Tzu petition, why you can buy it separately for $4.99, is part of the taxation by misrepresentation, the the the major book, and it's included in there, and it's $14.99. So a person, you know, if you're interested, you need to buy both of them. If you're interested in both, you get both of them in the taxation by misrepresentation. But as to the fourteenth amendment, the first clause of the fourteenth amendment says that all persons well, first of all, the reason the fourteenth amendment was written was because, the Dred Scott decision before the civil war that ruled that that black people, that anybody other than white people, were not and could not be citizens of The United States or of any of the states, whether they were free or not.
They could not be citizens. And so that that meant, you know, in the law, the laws are not written for men and women. I don't care where you go, in Canada, in England, in The United States, in France, laws are not written for men and women, nor do they address themselves to corporations. Laws address themselves to persons. All laws are written for persons. And a person, while in a general meaning, means a human being, in a legal sense, it does not mean that. In a legal sense, a person is an entity, whether that entity is a natural entity like a human being or an artificial or juristic person like a corporation or a trust.
But the so a person is an entity to whom the law ascribes or imputes rights or duties. And if a law or system of law does not impute to you rights or duties, you're not a person within that law. And so, the Dred Scott decision, when they ruled that that these nobody other than whites could be citizens, They really ruled that these people were not persons. They had no standing in the court, whether they were free or in slavery. A black man could not take you to court. If you stole his horse or beat up on him, he had no access to the court. He had no protection of the law of the law. So after the fourteenth after the civil war, the war itself didn't change that.
He still was not a person, you know, within the meaning of the law. Now the thirteenth amendment, you know, prohibited slavery and involuntary servitude, but in but it didn't prohibit in prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude. It did not prohibit voluntary servitude. But to give the black man some rights and to secure his him himself as a person within the meaning of the law where he had protections in the court and the law, the fourteenth amendment was enacted. And, and the first clause of it says all persons born or nationalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizen of The United States and the state in which they reside.
Now what they did is they created a citizenship for these people that could not be citizens otherwise. But as far as the white people who were citizens, the fourteenth amendment didn't do anything for them. They didn't need it, and it did it created nothing for them. It gave them no benefits and gave them no obligations, and the courts have said that. But it created a citizenship for nonwhites and gave them the protections. However, in a court case later, the supreme court ruled in in, Twining versus New Jersey that these citizens of The United States created by the fourteenth amendment, they didn't have the protection of the bill of rights.
And in another case, the Supreme Court ruled that the only rights they had were those rights granted to them by government. They had no unalienable rights as our declaration of independence says that people have and that the white citizen had. And so, there's two different The fourteenth amendment created a citizenship of The United States, but it was different than the citizens as contemplated by the original constitution. And, in fact, in the first case that the Supreme Court heard, construing the meaning of the, fourteenth amendment was a case known as as the slaughterhouse cases.
And in there, the court said it is clear then that there are two different citizenships, and their privilege and immunities are different, and that they are determined, by the, characteristics characteristics and circumstance within the individual. Now when you look at that, and since then, they've always spoken of the the, that is the Supreme Court, has always spoken of the Fourteenth Amendment citizens as citizens of The United States and the original sovereign citizens as state citizens. And and the state citizen has unalienable rights, but the fourteenth amendment citizen of The United States has only those rights granted to them by government.
Now when it says, that their privileges and immunities, that's their rights and duties with respect to the government, are determined by the different characteristics and circumstances in the individual. But what does that mean? Well, it simply means there is one characteristic that determined what citizenship a person was, and that was race. If you were black or nonwhite, your your citizenship was attributed to the fourteenth amendment. If you're white, it came as a as an unalienable right and endowment of God. Now, hey.
People say, well, that's racist, and you're right. It's racist as hell. It could hardly be more racist. But then as a matter of historical fact, you know, our constitution to begin with, was racist and recognized, you know, that the the black man really wasn't even a person within the law. And when they created the fourteenth amendment, they still didn't give him the same rights. Now, when they wanted to give him the right to vote, they they merely said that either race, what? You got that verbiage as Glenn? Either race, anyway, religion, something or Queen.
Previous condition of servitude, you know, shall, be considered in the other person's right to vote. Well, they could have done the same thing in the fourteenth amendment if they had wanted to give them equal citizenship. They could've just said, hey. Either race, color, or previous condition of servitude shall be a a condition, bearing upon citizenship, but they didn't. Now the government doesn't want to admit that. They try to make everybody believe all the great great civil war amendments made all men equal and so forth, and that's a bunch of bullshit. Excuse me on the verbiage there. I should have been a little more polite and said that's a a bunch of male bureau male full buying dung, you know, but, which is a technical legal term
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for BS. But
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but they tell people there's only one citizenship and we're we're all free. But, hey, they treat us all and govern us all as though we're fourteenth amendment citizens. And the term they use to denote that in the law is resident because in the fourteenth amendment, it says all persons born or naturalized in The United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of The United States and the state in which they reside. So when they ask you if you're a resident or what your resident's address is, most people think they're asking you for where you live. If that's not what they're asking at all, they're asking your political status.
Are you a fourteenth amendment citizen? And where do you reside that we can contact you to perform the duties that you have? So, yeah, the fourteenth amendment has a very, very big bearing upon, all of this. And, basically, when you sign that form ten forty, what you do when you relook what you obligate yourself to is you obligate yourself to first dibs. The government's first dibs on every all of your income. They could choose whatever part of that they want. Now there could hardly be a better condition of servitude than that. That's voluntary servitude.
And, basically, you're right back into that condition of the fourteenth amendment citizen, because all of his rights were granted to him by government. You're right back to the old feudal law that is, for the protection of the the Lord. You're in a condition of servitude to the Lord. And to the fourteenth amendment, what it did, the the federal government, guaranteed to these people its protection against the evil state governments because all of the of the, Southern states after the civil war enacted what was known as the black laws where they actually prohibited the the black people from having any rights and there was very little difference than before, you know, the civil war. So they enacted the fourteenth amendment to where the federal government, well, the fourteenth amendment required second clause after the citizenship, prohibiting any state from, bridging the the rights of these, citizens of The United States, the fourteenth amendment citizens, because they would have the same rights as the citizens of the state.
And so the fourteenth amendment, basically, these people are in a condition of of feudal servitude to the federal government for its protection. And when you voluntarily obligate yourself into the condition of servitude by signing a form ten forty, which is basically what you do, they now the government is now from under all of the restraints of the constitution because you have just waived all of those and agreed to be subject to its regulation as a a person in the condition of servitude. And and, of course, the authority for them to do that is the thirteenth amendment that that because it didn't prohibit voluntary servitude and is considered and authorized it. And the and the fourteenth amendment then, is the condition of servitude that you're in.
So I think, that's sufficient on that subject. Yeah. I have, another question.
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When do you think that this global economic collapse is gonna happen?
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Well, I don't know. You know, I don't know that anybody knows. I know Lindsey Williams, who is says he has an end with all these, people that govern the world, and they say it won't be for at least three or four years. But, then it'll happen as soon as they think that they can effectuate it. And, of course, that has been their goal from before this this The United States was established. Ben Franklin went to England and he saw all the poverty that they had there. We didn't have any of that in America. And the people asked me why we didn't have an American, He said, because we print our own money. And it's not loaned in an interest. And they print only enough to carry on, you know, the the commerce.
Well, the, Bank of England heard that, and they moved upon parliament, passed a law that they couldn't do that. And within a year, we had the same kind of poverty here they had in England, and that was the major cause of of the revolution. It wasn't taxation by misrepresentation or by, you know Without representation. Without representation. Franklin says we would have been happy to have paid that little tax if we had had our ability to create our money. But, no, they they had to use the Crown's money, which was the Bank of England's money loaned into existence, and and that was the major cause of the American Revolution.
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And so,
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the American people, by doing that, they thumped their nose at the at the, the Central Bank of England, and then we've had the internal conflict forever of the central bank trying to get its nose in, and and we've had two or three of them or about three or four of them. And their their goal has been, ultimately, to collapse our economy, destroy this country as a free nation, and as an example to the world of the free nation, and to establish a one world government. And they have been the instigators of every war that we have been in, The revolutionary war and the war of eighteen twelve and the civil war and the first world war and the second world war, Vietnam and Korea, and what's going on over in The Middle East now? War on terror.
Yeah. And the war on terror. The war on terror. They have been the instigators of all of those. And, you know, Werner Von Braun, the famous German rocket scientist who, later came here to The United States and was, the one that was responsible for our first successful rock. Pointed out told his secretary, hey. They're going to have first a war on terrorism that will be followed by a war from a supposed invasion of aliens in outer space. And, because they always gotta have a war to create the exigency of a reason to pay the right types of people and impose upon them their taxes, and it is that's their plan.
When we got a war on terror and, hey, there's there there no there is no terrorism. The terrorists is the damn government.
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And it seems that the war on the a the the alien and the alien the war with the aliens is gonna be coming soon.
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Oh, they're already start. Yeah. Prepping us for that. Yeah.
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More and more, they're just, prepping us with the movies, the books, the culture.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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And I think, see, that our our who was it? The the guy that was ahead of the Lockheed's Dunk Works. Right now. But he said one time, said anything that you can think of, we're already way ahead of that. I believe that we have spaceships that that travel to outer space. The American government has that, but they're not gonna let the people know that. And, you know, Richard Hopeland points out that, the what few some of the films that they've released from NASA has released for Mars and that shows ancient civilizations there.
And, but, hey, they're not gonna let the people know that, but that doesn't mean, of course, they will use all that for, a war from outer space. But we have technology that is so far beyond being that the people have ever imagined. In fact, I listened to a guy on, coast to coast telling me about a pyramid that's underground up in Alaska that create that that has been there for over thousands of years, and it creates enough electricity will generate enough electricity to power all of Canada. But, hey, they don't tell anybody about it. But our government is there, and, this guy went there to all supplies into the place.
And, so third thing that are so far, you know, so many thing, we we really understand. But the the future war on terror, it's or on, aliens. It's all planned. And, and we've got the technology to make it look like they are aliens.
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But Project Bluebeam. What was that? Project Bluebeam. Project Bluebeam? Blue. Blue, b l u e b e a m.
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I don't know anything about that. Do you know anything about that, John?
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No? Okay. It's a it's a program that that can simulate, like, like, Jesus or God coming down or aliens. It's like a holographic
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Oh, projection.
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Yeah. Just look. Just, you could search, project Bluebeam, and I'll give you all the information on that.
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You know, I I know that, several years ago, Charles, Prince Charles appeared somewhere, some foreign nation, and and holographically and delivered a speech, looked just like he was there, but he wasn't.
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So imagine what they can do with the technology that are part thirty to forty to fifty years and beyond what what we know now what we have now.
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Oh, they might they might do a hologram of somebody that looks like Jesus appearing in the sky. Well, they plan on doing that that and maybe Mohammed,
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depending on some kind of future, future Christ like figure coming down. Mhmm. But you know you know the the well, you know, the the mark of the beast, the image of the beast when it's gonna a statue or something is gonna appear to make the image talk. It could be something like that. You know, they have the technology now. They're just putting everything into place, I find.
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Well, you're probably right. Yeah.
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For sure.
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On the war on terrorism, and they've used that to to impose on the people. You know, you go to the airport, and they're gonna grow you and your wife and your kids. And And and, they got the Homeland Security, acting as though they're the Brown Church in Germany, and they've got laws enacted to authorize the arrest of of of citizens and the holding of them without counsel, without the right to the right to the president to determine he wants to assassinate and not without any, you know, anything but his own decision and and the, let the legislation to try to take away or regulate what guns you can have.
And, you know Drones.
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Drones. Drones. Yeah.
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But what what they're authorizing, the people in Congress and in the administration and in courts who have taken a an oath to defend The United States against all its enemies foreign or domestic. They are major enemies we have. Not only are they the major enemies we have, but they are bought and sold by, sold by the world bankers who have been our major enemies from day one, from back, as I say, in Franklin's time when they put upon the the colonies that they couldn't use their own script, and they have been our major enemies from that day to this. And by their money, they control congress and the president.
Those guys are just figureheads.
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They're gonna do what they're told. They better do they better do us. You know what's gonna happen?
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John, tell them, what the bankers, are supposed to have said about being at war with American conquering and so on. Said, hey. We've we've already we've already beaten Europe, and now we're gonna do it in The US.
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Well, yeah, they they brag that that they have conquered America, and it's just a matter of, the winding up, you know, scenes, to collapse the economy and the government and, have everybody in such dire circumstances that they will be willing to accept the the, international bankers coming in and rescuing them. And when you look at it, what do the bankers got that they could do? They just have control of the money supply. And if if we got rid of that, we have our own money supply. We could get rid of of the unemployment that we have now. That's all calculated and caused by the bankers. That's all part of their plan.
And if we had a congress that had the guts to do what was right, they would kick those boys out and and establish an honest money system, and our economy would take off like gangbusters. And the same is true with other countries. All of the countries in the world are indebted, and they've got so much money and, you know, and these derivatives and so forth that their Federal Reserve is buying up simply to transfer those debts of the big bankers and their derivatives to the people so they can collapse the economy. Eventually, the derivatives will collapse because there's not enough money in the world to pay them off, and it's all been part of the ruse, to destroy our economy and our government.
But not only our economy and our government, but that of all the world, of Canada and all of Europe and, hey, the entire world.
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Wow. That's a lot of information, but, unfortunately, we're out of time.
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Yeah. We could we could have just stayed on for hours, but we gotta get going, unfortunately.
[01:53:41] Unknown:
And, we we'd love to have you guys back on very soon, both of you, John and also, Glenn. And it was wonderful having you guys. You guys are wealth of information, and we were honored to have you guys on. And, any final closing thoughts you'd like to say to our viewers?
[01:54:04] Unknown:
Well, I just wanna thank you for having us on, and we sure would like to come back. And for any of the anybody that's interested in our book, taxation by misrepresentation, well, go to noll1040.com. No. 1040tax.com. 10 40 tax Com.
[01:54:26] Unknown:
Alright. So it's been great, and we'll have you back on very soon. Thanks guys for coming on the show. It's very, very, very interesting, and it's just you could go on and on for hours.
[01:54:38] Unknown:
Alright. We appreciate it. You're welcome.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
Bye bye. Bye. Alright. Thanks. Good night. Bye. Yeah. So, Rob, that was too much information.
[01:54:48] Unknown:
A lot more information. We could've went on the whole night, like, you know, to have one of those nine hour shows like, like like used to do, back in the old the old vocal days. You know?
[01:54:58] Unknown:
I wish he would come on and look at our show, but anyhow But anyhow, we'll be back next week with another wonderful show, and love you all, and God bless you. Thank you. Yes. And because it wouldn't be for you, we would be talking to ourselves,
[01:55:13] Unknown:
like, in harmony. Do do that. It does happen. Thank you.
Introduction and Guest Introduction
Discussion on Taxation and Misrepresentation
Central Banks and Economic Control
The Legal System and Tax Obligations
Personal Experiences and Legal Battles
Health, Nutrition, and Pharmaceutical Influence
Historical Context of Taxation and Government Control
The Role of Media and Public Awareness
Global Economic Collapse and Future Predictions
Concluding Thoughts and Call to Action
