On this Friday edition from the Radio Ranch, I turned Brent Winters loose and we rode a wide-ranging conversation from tobacco culture to timeless law. We traded stories about pipes, rolling your own, vaping’s rise and regulation, nicotine (including Nicotiana rustica) and mullein, and how all of it intersects with health, habit, and responsibility. Brent brought Scripture to bear on practical questions—wine, conscience, and the Westminster tradition’s “chief end of man”—and connected it to the American common-law heritage, juries, oaths, and the Declaration of ’76. We also touched on media platforms carrying the show, Patriot Soapbox Sundays with Brent, and his resources at commonlawyer.com. Along the way: Lincoln on the stagecoach, auction-house tobacco days, Seventh-day Adventists and longevity research near Loma Linda, and a handful of current headlines (National Guard authority, city crime responses, and campus activism). As always, the goal is clarity, conscience, and courage: applied truth, not just talk.
- Brent Allen Winters — Common Lawyer: https://commonlawyer.com
- Radio Ranch (Roger’s site): https://thematrixstocks.com
- Patriot Soapbox (PSB): https://patriotssoapbox.com
- Zippo Manufacturing Company: https://www.zippo.com
- Leaf Only (whole leaf tobacco, incl. Nicotiana rustica): https://www.leafonly.com
- Grace to You (John MacArthur’s ministry): https://www.gty.org
- Westminster Confession of Faith (OPC): https://www.opc.org/wcf.html
- Heidelberg & Belgic Confessions (CRCNA): https://www.crcna.org/who-we-are/what-we-believe/confessions
- Loma Linda University Health: https://lluh.org
- Seventh-day Adventist Church (world headquarters): https://www.adventist.org
- Turning Point USA: https://www.tpusa.com
- U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE): https://www.ice.gov
- Duke University: https://www.duke.edu
- National Geographic: https://www.nationalgeographic.com
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Unknown:
Alrighty. As would we as would we, Alvin. Alvin, thank you very much for introducing us again here at the Radio Ranch. It, of course, is the Friday edition. When I have a, gentleman, a notorious gentleman named Brent Winters, on with us, and he is here early today, believe it or not. It is the, date stamp October 24. We've got just a few days left till the devil's night. It's not far away. And then immediately after the devil's night of this year comes the November 1 cutoff of all the SnapCard benefits. There's 45,000,000 people in the country Wow.
In SnapCard benefits. And I some of it are outrageous. I saw a clip of this guy. He says, I've got five children. What do you expect me to do? Go out and work? I wanna be with my children.
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Mhmm.
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Okay. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, no problem here, man. Here's another thousand. Anyway, that's what's going on. It's crazy, crazy in the world and in our country. We're, well, we might discuss that today. We might not. You never know with Brent. We just kinda turn him loose and see where we go. So, anyway, we're on a number of other, platforms that extend our reach, and we wanna be sure and identify them and give them proper credit. Don't we, Paul?
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Yes. We do. Yes. We do. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and his diligent efforts. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul English. Had a great show yesterday, Paul English live. You gotta catch that archive if you can. If you didn't if you didn't tune in to the live show, the archive is gonna be just as good. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. We're on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. The rumble stream is actually the only one that started properly today because the, the actual Eurofoc and global voice stream started about thirty seconds late.
Oh, goody. Our website is thematrixstocks.com, and that is where you'll find the free conference call links, which are also working beautifully. You know, basically oh, well. It's six of one and a half, a dozen of the other. Good morning, Roger. I think I'm gonna go soak my head.
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Okay. No problem. Don't run off just yet. Hey, Brent. I saw your your your moniker up there. Let me ask you a question, Paul. You, you smoke. Right?
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Yes. I do.
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Now are you vaping at all, or are you just smoking? I hear you click that big, that Zippo every now and then.
[00:03:06] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I I use Zippo, and I smoke a seventy thirty blend of Mullen and tobacco. Mullen? Natural tobacco. Yeah. Mullen.
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What's Mullen?
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I thought it was Mullen. It's it's spelled Moline. It is, like, like, mullein tea, like, clears out the lungs and things like that. And Uh-huh. Okay. Some people smoke it. Some people, use it to make tinctures, teas, whatever. I buy it a pound at a time and Mhmm.
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And blend It's what I do. Uh-huh. Well, you know, if you were in a tobacco shop, you'd have to be, licensed to do that. But, you know, you have to be licensed by the federal government to blend tobacco now? That's true. I mean, that's true. I'm I'm sorry to tell you. It's true. Back when I used to smoke, the tobacco place I bought my tobacco was telling me that. So let's see. So do you know any you don't vape, though. Right? No. Absolutely not. Well, there's a huge crisis in The US. I say it's not as big as some of the other ones. But dealing with these vapes now I really don't know too much about it. I've got occasionally, I'll be around somebody that does that.
I I have never probably don't plan on it. But what has happened was they drug their feet regulatorily during the Biden administration. I'm sure you that's not a big surprise to you. They were dragging their feet, and they didn't okay the American manufacturers of vapes. So, you know, nature abhors a vacuum. You know that deal. And so the Chinese have loaded in millions of dollars of this poisonous vape. It's not poisonous. Very addictive. It's got all kinds of things in there. They don't even know what's in there, THC and other stuff.
And then they flooded the shops that sell regular vaping stuff, and it's really, being detrimental to children and stuff. They they busted he said in Chicago. I just saw a guy being interviewed on it. They busted in South Side Of Chicago, a warehouse with $250,000,000 worth of those things. So anyway, if you're a vapor, and I don't know that any of our audience is, but if you know somebody that might be, you ought to tell them about this. It was on the the last segment of the second hour of Brianna this morning. Had the head guy from federal government and talking about the bust and why. So, anyways, just on my mind. So I wanted to bring that out this morning for any of you who may be affected, hope not, and some of the people you may know in your in your circles.
Anyway, good morning, Brent. Good morning, Brent.
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I know you don't vape. If I could do one more thing before before we let Brent in here. He's gonna affirm my statement, I think. Go ahead. Right. Well, the vape products, they actually damage the lung tissue. They create, like, a crystal in lung and, reduce the the lung's ability to function. It's, it it's just very bad, but that's not the only bad thing that there is. There is, a, it's like an energy drink or it's it's sold as an energy drink. It's called Feel Free, and it's got, like, this beautiful blue package and they put it up at the counter. It's an impulse buy thing. They they put it right next to the five hour energy and the Red Bull and all
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that. And Red Bull gives you wings.
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Yeah. It gives you wings, sends you to Jesus early.
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Fly you to heaven
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It's loaded with nonstop. It's loaded with caffeine and it's highly acidic and an acidic body is a sick body. But anyway, getting back to this this other feel free product, it is loaded with Kraton, k r a t o n, which is absolutely off the charts addictive. And Oh, fuck. Kids can go into convenience stores and buy this stuff. And buy this stuff. There's no regulation on it and what some of the, some of the clerks and stuff in the convenience stores are saying is that they've got twelve, thirteen, 15, 16 year old kids coming in there numerous times a day to buy this stuff. And if they don't have the money to buy it, they'll actually hang out in the parking lot trying to get other people to buy it for them because they can't afford it.
It is so
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Our poor country. Yeah. I bet you don't vape, do you, Brent?
[00:07:42] Unknown:
No. I don't know nothing about it. I got a lot of Only when he's in the hog barn. Yeah. Yeah. I got plenty of tobacco stories, though. I bet you do. Now if I've told them, bear with me if you've heard them, but I read I think I've got it on good evidence this really happened. I tried to follow-up on it, but when Abe Lincoln was a congressman, which was a very short period of time, he was one of the few men that stood up against the against the Mexican war because he said, obviously, it was a land grab and and that, it was on ev well, it was on evidence that didn't exist that the Mexican army had invaded Texas.
But, any rate, they went ahead with it, and then they, of course, they threw him out. He didn't last long there. And, he was coming back home, and at that time, there weren't railroads hadn't really hadn't really got a good start, and so he had to take the coach. And he instead of going down the Ohio River to come home, which a lot of people did, they'd take a steam small steamboat called a packet. He took the stage, and he got paid for mileage course like congressmen do today. However many miles it is back to your home, you get paid for going back and forth by the mile. Well, he took the stage to Indianapolis, Indiana.
And when he got to Indianapolis, he changed coaches to get over on over to Illinois, which meant he had to go down to Terre Haute, Indiana. So he rode the stage, got on. Another fella got on with him, and they're sitting in the stage and rocking along down the Cumberland Road, which was the main thoroughfare through the center of America at that time, the first federally funded highway. Of course, it wasn't gravel. It was just dirt, but it was a had bridges and it was cleared off and all. And he got in with Lincoln, and, they hadn't gone very far. And he got out his snuff box and and, took a shot of snuff and offered a shot to Lincoln.
And Lincoln said, I I don't do snuff. Oh, he said, okay. And then they went another hour or so, and he got out a cigar and lit it up and asked Abe if he wanted one. And Lincoln said, no. I don't I don't smoke tobacco. No. Okay. So another hour or two went by. Now if you drive from Indianapolis to Terre Haute today, it's just short of 90 mile. It doesn't take long. And the Cumberland Road, is called Interstate 70 now. Comes clear from the Cumberland Gap and clear clear the well, it runs clear out into Colorado now. Well, any rate, he at that time, it went as far as Saint Louis. Well, that time, he got, a little bit further, and he pulls a flask out of his pocket and takes a snort of whiskey.
And he he offered Lincoln a snort, and Lincoln said, no. I don't I don't drink whiskey. And he said, oh, okay. So he put it back in his pocket. And when they got to Terre Haute, nobody said much on the trip. And he got out there, and Lincoln was gonna go on a cross because he had to go to Springfield. So he go, through Paris in that way. And, this guy got off the coach and broke the silence, and he's talked to Lincoln as he was getting off and said, young man, he was a young man by comparison, I want you to remember something. He said, what's that?
He said, them what has no vices has very few virtues. Them that has no vices has very few virtues. Now I don't say that to say that's true. I've thought about that for years and I've heard it said, is it true? I do know that everybody's got vices. I know that. Lincoln had his too. But those three vices that were upfront and so objectionable to the female of the species, not to mention, other men. He didn't do that for maybe for political reasons. I don't know, but he didn't for whatever reason. But, Tabakie is the proof to me that the Indian tribes won the war.
They've killed more of us. They've killed more of us with by having introduced us to Tabakie than we ever killed them. What a point. Yeah. And I've watched two of my granddads die of lung cancer that liked to smoke, and it was not a pleasant experience. I'll tell you. And one of them died at 57 or eight right in there. And I knew a friend's father died at 58 smoking, and then the other one died at about 78. And it got so bad by the time we're in the hospital, of course, we had to hold both of them up and hold a cigarette for them. They got some weak they couldn't even hold their cigarettes, and we had to hold them up so they can make take another hit. Of course, we figured at that time, let them relax and let them enjoy what's left of life. You know? Sure. It's too late then. I had another friend. We, farmed his 20 acres, Bruce Bruce Gard. He had a brother by the name of Rex, and both of them had gone to World War one together.
When Bruce got to be older, the doc said you're gonna have to quit smoking. He rolled his own. Back then, I knew a lot of men, probably you did too, Roger, that rolled their own, cigarettes. Mhmm. That was very popular, Bull Durham, and especially Prince Albert. Especially Yeah. Because then you could enjoy a pipe or a cigarette. It was for both, you know. Yeah. Prince Albert in the can. You had that little one you could put in your about the size of a whiskey flask. You'd put in your shirt pocket, that little tin. Well, the doc said you gotta quit. So to make his wife happy, he quit.
And then he was sitting on the porch one time talking to me. He come over to see dad. I was pretty near grown then. And I said, how you doing, Bruce? He could tell a lot of stories. One of those kind of fellows. I like to talk to him. And he'd start talking to me, and then he'd stop and he'd say, well, I know what word, or I know there's a word I'm supposed to say here, but I I can't think what it is. I said, why not? He said, well, I'm not sure. But he said, I think it's because I quit smoking. He said, my body had gotten so used to tobacco all these years that, I think quitting it actually has hurt me more than helping at this point.
And, he never went back to smoking and then he lost he got Alzheimer's and passed away. Peach of a fella. But it was part of our culture, Roger. You know that, and I know that, and Paul knows that. We grew up at a time when men smoked. That's what men did. Mhmm. And women. And I don't remember hardly ever going into a room that somebody wasn't smoking, if not many. That's the way life was. I just took it in stride. Now my parents go ahead, Roger. There was no no smoking signs anywhere either. Go ahead. No. No. There weren't any. And, my neither of my parents smoked. My father's father smoked Prince Albert.
My mother's father raised Tabakki. And, he told me that what his father did too, they were the ones from the Kentucky side of the family immediately. The other side was too, but another generation back. But immediately, when grandpa, my granddad, who raised Abacky, he said, he store bought cigarettes came out just well, they were well known by World War I, Camels, especially. And I think Chesterfields, of course, they didn't have filters. And my granddad is a 15 year old boy, found the pack. Of course, there was no law against buying it, and he bought him a pack. He wanted to see what they were like. And his father, my great granddad, found out he has he had them in his pocket hanging in the mudroom coming into the house.
And he got them, he took them, and he told my granddad, said, come with me. Where are we going? You just come with me. And they went and set out on the other side of the barn where my grandmother and and his brothers and sisters couldn't see him. They were eight in the family, two girls and six boys, and he was number three. And they sat down and and he said my dad said, let's sit and let down here and lean up against the barn. He got that package of cigarettes out, store bought. And, he said, we're gonna smoke the whole pack. No. And he said, why? He said, you just do what I tell you.
And so they both lit up a cigarette, and he lit one up from my granddad, and they smoked and talked. And then he said, we're gonna do another one. They went through all 20 of them. I think they were 20 just like they are were or have been. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. And he's and he said, my granddad said he got sicker and a foundered mule. Yep. Thick.
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Grease. Grease. Grease.
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Yeah. Yeah. And my great granddad, they everybody called him Lish. His name was Lisha. Elisha. They called him Lish or Lash. And, he said, now I want you to suck us down into your lungs. You know, he'd made him smoke them hard. And he got sick, and he said my dad was smart. He knew that maybe that would cure me, and I wouldn't do it again. And I never have. Never have. Mhmm. Now one more story I could tell if it's of any interest. Of course, they took their tobacco to Lexington every year to sell it. They got one paycheck a year. One paycheck, but it was a big one. And it was the biggest day in Lexington. People think the Kentucky Derby's big. No, no. That ain't the biggest day. Didn't used to be the Excuse to be the biggest day was the annual auction of tobacco in Lexington, Kentucky. And that's where you get the best price. And and men would come with they'd, of course, they'd harvest it, and then they'd hang it to dry, and then they'd tie it into hands and use it. It was a cultural thing that had developed in America, Roger.
They would a hand at the back is whatever you can get your hand around at the stems, holding at the stems. And then you take one leaf, and there was a special way you tied it off with that one leaf. Uh-huh. If it wasn't done that way, they wouldn't sell it. Uh-huh. And the people that made the biggest money were the auctioneers, and that was an unwritten hereditary position, by the way. In other words, you just didn't go in and and put say, well, I'll do it for 10% or I'll no. No. You had to be born into it. That's how that culture had been going on for four hundred years in America, and it got to be well, it it wasn't done anywhere else in the world. See? And America did provide all the tobacco, and it got to be a high art to where there were seven grades on the plant of tobacco. Seven grades. And now there are only three. Nobody much cares about quality anymore. Yeah. But back then, it was a big deal. And they'd they'd take their tobacco down there in the hands on pallets, and every pallet had so many hands. And they'd lay it out in this giant warehouse with acres, tens and twelves, and I don't know, twenty, forty acre warehouse. Huge plate. Yeah. I haven't measured it. But then the major companies would come around and the auction would start.
And when the auction was over and everybody took their tobacco out, no Chesterfield, RJ Reynolds, all those big companies, then and all of them, by the way, are on the skids now. And when I was running for Congress, they got with me. At that time, they were just they were just losing everything. And the representatives of the tobacco company, the lobbyists came to me and said, I mean, they were hang doggy. And they said, Brent, we we're just trying to survive what's coming, you know, because people were quitting smoking then, which was probably a good thing. And of course, the tobacco companies shot themselves in the foot, putting all the chemicals in. The way did they? Oh, it's terrible. Well, anyway, but back then, what they do that started in this well, at least by the sixties, the chemicals were coming.
But they would, get all the tobacco out and then all the off falls and the things that had crumbled and little things that have fallen on the floor of the auction house, a a 100 or so, black men would come with large push brooms and sweep that whole place up of all the off falls tabacky, sweep it up along with the bird manure and the rat manure and anything else and the hog manure people would track in, all those farmers. They would sweep that up into a mountain of a pile, and that was the biggest event of the day. And the auctioneer would auction that pile off for cigarette tobacco.
Trash of the trash of the trash. Oh my God. By the way, cigarette tobacco, and I assume it's still true, is the trash leaf, the bottom leaf. Oh, it's always hot. What's that? Really? I didn't know that. Yeah. Except, of course, like Prince Albert. They got into the middle of the plant, you know, the trash, they call the trash at the bottom, and the red and the burley were at the top. That was for cigars, and then the pipe tobacco and all that at different grades coming up the plant. But, cigarettes never appealed to me for that reason because those are the stories I had always heard and understood, and it's gotten worse since then. Yeah. It will it not only will it kill you without all the chemicals, it will kill you, double fast now. That's made comment. For him. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Go ahead, Joe. I got I got some things to say too. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah.
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Yeah. Just, another line here that I first started smoking using Bull Durham and wheat straw cigarette paper. And I put the bull Durham because it was so powder dry and so fine, you couldn't hardly keep it in the paper. Uh-huh. So I moved up to Prince Albert, and, it was moist enough and long enough cut. You could keep it in the paper pretty easy, and I got to where I could roll it with one hand.
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Yeah. Now at this point, Roger,
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at this point, he's bragging. But if but if it's true, it's not bragging. So
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I I like to hear it. And I could horseback one handed.
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What now they tell me, and they used to say at home, Joe, that if your macons are too dry, that's the way they'd say it, it's hard to roll. And you're saying that's true. Yeah. With Bull Durham, if Makins were too dry. Yeah. It's true with anything. I think you're trying to roll. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:22:46] Unknown:
So, Joe Are you done? You're a roller too. Let me ask both of you a question. You know who invented the cigarette rolling machine?
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No. No.
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But Joe, do you know Yeah. Kevin Roger gave to me because his Raleigh cigarette coupons, he got it from.
[00:23:04] Unknown:
Right. Well, I'm talking about the big machines that do it commercially, you know, invented that. A guy named Duke. He's got a university and a power plant and all kind of stuff named after him over there in Western Eastern North Carolina.
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Uh-huh.
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Mister Duke. Oh, well, that's how he got rich. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well
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well, you know, for me, I'm my my parents both smoked when I was growing up, and I couldn't wait to get into it when I was a kid. You know? Anything I I was gonna get into anything I wasn't supposed to. You know? That's kind of my history. And, so, I started smoking. They finally said, okay. Well, you can. And rather than shame me and say I couldn't and know I'd go off and do it anyway. But then my neighbor in Anchorage when I was, we were living on Elmendorf. His father was a big pipe smoker, and he had about 20 or 30 pipes over there at his house right across the street from us. And I was always really fascinated with them. You know, a pipe smoker will take a pipe and you'll rub it in his hand, you know? And and over a period of time, it really gives that pipe a tremendous amount of character because it's not the way it came. It's been altered through those, through those mechanizations.
And so I got really curious about pipes because of all that, and and I really smoked a pipe most of my life. I did a cigarette. I just didn't like cigarettes. I still don't to this day if I ever have one. I don't anymore. I've quit pretty much totally now, which feel good. You know? But, anyway, that was my history of smoking pipes my whole life, and, I've quit several times. I mean, it's not anything like evidently quitting cigarettes is where you go through all these mechanizations and your body reacts for lack of whatever. But there is one really good thing about tobacco these days, Brent, and I'll bet you don't know what it is. I'm waiting to find out. Right here, what is it? It blocks the receptors that COVID attached to.
If you were a smoker, you didn't get or very, very five percent chance you'd get COVID. And even Fauci in the early days of that came out and made it public they they realized it. Said, what's a real good time to quit smoking? Well, speaking of So we kill you. You know?
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Speaking of Duke, you know, Duke, smoked all his life. I'm talking about John Wayne. Uh-huh. And, then when he was in his fifties, he had to have one of his lungs taken out or would he would've died. So he operated after that with one lung. And he said that he thought, well, I can surely smoke a cigar or a pipe and not inhale. And then he said, I found out I couldn't do that. Because when you smoke a pipe or cigar and don't inhale, you do inhale. And it does, of course,
[00:25:59] Unknown:
enter your membranes of your inside of your mouth and invade your body that way. I inhaled. I'll be right straightforward with you. Yeah. So was some Yeah. Somebody trying to say something there? We're going off on this tobacco conversation this morning.
[00:26:12] Unknown:
Yeah. This is Roy Zaker Jeffrey again. So it's not tobacco that Jeff. Howdy. It's not tobacco that deals with the receptors. It's the actual nicotine that's found in The the nicotine. Yeah. Okay.
[00:26:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it's like,
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yes, sir.
[00:26:28] Unknown:
Just Well, tobacco is kinda nicotine, but I get your point. It's not a specific, but they found that out. It blocks those receptors. They're in the back of your brain, and the people that smoke just didn't get COVID except at a very, very low rate. So there you go. There's one positive thing for tobacco now. People are taking now. Oh, hold on a second, Robbie. People are now taking and just going and buying nicotine, like in lozenges and stuff. And they found that it helps a lot of different stuff is my understanding.
[00:27:01] Unknown:
If you see
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they kill parasites.
[00:27:04] Unknown:
Oh, hold it, Dave. But, Jeff, what you got to finish up, Robbie's over there.
[00:27:13] Unknown:
It's the pharmaceutical companies that are making this snuff these days and the nicotine products. So that's not to be trusted either with the other ingredients they're throwing in just like they did with this with the, cigarettes in the past. I
[00:27:27] Unknown:
don't think any of them are to be trusted. I don't as far as you can throw them. Robbie, what do you have, babe? Thanks. Good to hear from you, Jeff. What you got?
[00:27:34] Unknown:
Good morning. I understand they're gonna try to take nicotine off the market, by by 2030 because of that very thing. Thank you. Oh, because it blocks those receptors?
[00:27:48] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Now, Dave.
[00:27:52] Unknown:
Okay. Sorry, Rod. So, actually, nicotine cleans those receptors so the body can deal with the the things that, you know, that they're supposed to deal with, those receptors. But, you know, the tobacco is a nightshade plant, and all nightshade plants have are high in nicotine, like red potatoes, you know, tomatoes, peppers, anything with a dark skin is a nightshade. And Yeah. Those that nicotine, it also kills, parasites. The nicotine kills parasites. And that's what the COVID was a parasite and, you know, a biochemical weapon. And the that's why the smokers didn't get COVID because it kills parasites.
You could take a a cigarette and empty it out in the dog's food. And if he's got worms, you know, that after he eats that tobacco, the next day, he poops out and you see the worms. They're wiggling around in a big pile of poop.
[00:28:58] Unknown:
Boy, that's a visual image. Thanks, Dave.
[00:29:02] Unknown:
What is? Of course, it's too. You could feed horses tobacco, and they'd get rid of the worms.
[00:29:08] Unknown:
I hope some of our May I? Our our I hope our listeners weren't in the middle of their breakfast. Yes. Go ahead.
[00:29:16] Unknown:
Well, I was just gonna say you don't have to smoke tobacco. Make it in a liquid form and soak your feet in it.
[00:29:26] Unknown:
Do you do the same thing?
[00:29:28] Unknown:
Absolutely. Well, you have the most porous, your foot is the most porous, the sole of your foot, and it goes straight into your bloodstream.
[00:29:39] Unknown:
There was a a guy in Argentina, you know, where I was out there and lived is one of the biggest grow garlic growing areas in the world. And, this guy had concentrated garlic, and they would do that. He'd bring people and have them put their feet in that garlic concentrate. You could drink it too. But, yeah, he did that. So interesting, Sherry. Good to hear from you. Anything else? Anything else?
[00:30:05] Unknown:
Hold on, Paul. Anything else here?
[00:30:07] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Sherry. Now Paul?
[00:30:11] Unknown:
Oh, I just make a point. People people also I knew people that grew tobacco just to feed the horses for that reason this Philip mentioned.
[00:30:21] Unknown:
Oh, it's not warming.
[00:30:23] Unknown:
Yeah. It'll worm them real quick. And, of course, nobody knew why exactly. It isn't. So if you do chew tobacco, you won't have a lot of worms. That's true. I get the point. Of course, if you drink alcoholic, you won't have worms either. I was gonna say, drink plenty of whiskey, you won't eat it. But it depends. But, it may be, more damaging. I would say that probably taking tobacco into your belly, chewing it, it'll rot your teeth out. That's the that's the bad side of it. But, probably, it would be good for you a little bit. I I'm I'm not a doctor, so I'm not licensed to say these things.
I'm just giving my observations of nature, and I don't know what the best thing is, but I do know that horses can be wormed with it as probably other animals.
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Comment?
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like the old guy said, Brent. He said, I'm I'm not a doctor, but I played one as a child. Go ahead, Joe.
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My granddad MacRae died when he was 88 years old in his sleep. He smoked a pipe and cigars all his life, adult life, and he died with his all of his original teeth. Oh, what's the lie? And he and he probably he stood probably about five eight, five nine, and he probably weighed a hundred and fifty, sixty pounds. Oh. Never had a sick day in his life, but he smoked all his life. But he always told my dad, if you're gonna smoke, stay away from the filtered cigarettes because it's Oh. It it's the fibers in the filter that kill you.
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Yeah. Could be. There's some there's an ungodly amount of chemicals in that cigarette tobacco. And and my ex wife's
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husband's granddad died when he is a 20 a 126 years old smoking a cigarette.
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126 he lived till?
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Well, he was a
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he was a Palestinian.
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I'll be He was a what? A what? Palestinian.
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A Palestinian.
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Well, I'm just Back when, yeah, back when I was in, a teenager, I saw a National Geographic, some people say, National, pornographic. Oh, yeah. Those pictures in them, but there was a picture. There's a night 1960
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what you know what it is, don't you, Brent? It's Playboy for black folks. Yeah. I guess so.
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I say I was a teenager. No. I wouldn't. I would because I remember it was in 1972. I was a little bit older, but it was a picture of a woman on the front page of the National Geographic, an old woman without any teeth, and she had both hands sitting on the top of her cane. She had her head her chin sitting on her hands, and her mouth was shut. That meant her because she didn't have any teeth. You can tell because her poor lip was almost touching her nose, and she looked like, she looked pretty rough. And I opened up to that page, and, they nobody knew exactly how old she was, but they knew she had to be at least a 135 years old because her first husband died in the Crimean War.
That was in 1850. Well, they interviewed this gal, and she was from that place over there that is part of Russia, now called Georgia.
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Oh, yeah.
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And people there for centuries have lived consistently over a 100 years old. Correct. Yeah. And they said there was a fellow there at that time that was 165, and they had a picture of him. It was kind of a a bad picture of black and white listening to a transistor radio, but Oh my god. That time, the Russian government wouldn't let anybody talk to him. But they they allowed National Geographic to talk to this gal, and they asked her. They said, how long how long you been smoking? Because she was smoking she rolled her own cigarettes. And she said, I started smoking in 1910 when I was about 70 years old.
And, and they said, do you drink? She said, I drink a a shot of vodka every morning before breakfast. Now I'm not saying you should do that stuff, and I don't know that she was telling the truth. See? All I know is what I read. But they did interview a lot of people there that were well over a 100 and still working every day. The big thing there at that time was tea. They grew tea tea and they tea leaves, you know. Uh-huh. Then they also, in that article, went there's a couple places in the world that are like that. The other place is in the Andes Mountains, apparently. Uh-huh.
And there are people there's a group a a geographic area down there where people consistently live over a 100 years old as well, but not as old as these folk over in so they they talked about what do you eat and all that kind of stuff. Now the people in The United States, and I don't promote their religious point of view. I don't believe it's correct fundamentally. But, because the founder of this religious group, founded the the religious group with the idea that the Bible tells us how to eat so that it will curtail the sexual aggression of men.
As you can imagine, it was founded by a woman and her name was Ellen White. Mhmm. And Ellen, founded the Seventh day Adventist. I mean, with other people, it was in the Millerite Movement in Upper State New York, but, she founded the movement. The idea was we gotta do something about men. She hated men. She hated sexual aggression. And, of course, she didn't stop to consider that's why she's here because some man was sexually aggressive. But, they have, because of that, really put their heads deep into health. That's true. And they focused their headquarters at one point in time in a place called Loma Linda, California.
Right. Loma Linda. And there's a large hospital there, or as they say around here, a horse pedal. I try to be a little more sophisticated. But a large I call Loma Linda Hospital. And there are other Seventh day Adventist hospital hospitals in that area in Southern California. But the National Geographic magazine noticed they interviewed a lot of these Seventh day Adventists, and they did live a long time. Now the one thing they said not not a long time. Not like they're over a 100 consistently, but they seem to do better statistically than other folk. But one thing that they did do that they found, they said, was that they all like to eat nuts.
Things like almonds, pistachios
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Walnuts?
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Walnuts. Yeah. Nuts. And, nobody, I don't think, would argue those aren't good for you. But, they tried to find the common denominator among them. But it bears looking, because it isn't really nice. I don't think it's natural. It's not natural that we don't make a 100 years old. We're living in a chemically inundated world now. You can't heart you can't buy anything hardly. No. That food wise, that isn't from meat that has chemicals in it or agricultural products from the land that has chemicals in it. And the few people that raise their critters and their crops without chemicals are in high demand now, by the way. Yes.
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Yeah. Well, you know, that's a difference down here, Brandon. I can go to the store, which I gotta do after the show this afternoon, and go, like, find, for example, the ketchup section. Yeah. And I can take a a a bottle or a thing of cut hunts and turn it around where all the ingredients are there and then take one from Ecuador and turn it around. Uh-huh. It's got, like, three or four ingredients. The other's got about 40 or 50. I mean, even the that's right, Roger. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just gonna say what they did down here because there's a lot, I guess, of illiterate people, the Indians, is is they put a scale on there for salt, sugar, and fat. Uh-huh. Three different colors, and they'll give you a gradient on how much that product contains of that ingredient so that the people that can't read those few ingredients know or have a better decision buying experience.
Just to throw that in.
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Oh, no. It's good to know. And, if we import stuff like that, it'll put pressure on what's going on here. But we also have, of course, you can't even buy beer. Beer that isn't loaded with chemicals. I'm sure that's true. Now there are a few places you can go in these smaller breweries that produce beer according to the Bavarian standard. That's what called in the industry. And there is a brewery in Bavaria. I can't pronounce the name. It starts with an h, but it's one of those long German names. It's been there for over a thousand years, and they produce beer with just four ingredients. And I've seen breweries around that do that too, just four ingredients. And it can be done. Course, bread, same way. You don't need all all that. You look at the ingredients in a loaf of bread. No. Thank you. It's yeah. No. Thank you. I don't want it. I'd I'd just assume not eating bread if it's that bad. I don't eat bread.
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I don't eat bread. Unless it's Leviticus bread, I don't need it. Well, there is you can buy now in The States even in Walmart
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and Kroger. I've noticed you can buy what they call organic bread, but it doesn't have all those chemicals in it. It tastes a lot better too. Yeah. Well, Roger,
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I Well, I was cutting off on tobacco and agricultural, John, this morning because that guy that I saw on the vape thing does anybody else have anything to add to this or we can take it in another direction? Paul's got something. Yes, sir. I got
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I got one more quick thing. Okay. And make I think we got another line of service. Also?
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Comment also. Hold on.
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Alright. Hang on a minute, Will. What I wanna mention is, what they say about nicotine being addictive. There are people that are reporting that it's not the nicotine that's that it's addictive, it's the 599 other approved chemicals that the, FDA allows tobacco companies to put in their tobacco on a rotation, just to maintain the, the addictiveness of tobacco. You know,
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they they got this so screwed up, like fluoride. Yeah. Do you know there's over a 100 chemicals that fall under that umbrella besides just fluoride? And they can put any of those things in there. I mean, the whole it's just designed to kill us, folks.
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You remember Tex Ritter, Roger? Yeah. A little bit. Well, Tex got really famous with that one song, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke. That cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. Puff, puff, puff until you puff yourself to death. Tell Peter at the pearly gate. I really hate to make him wait. But I just got to have another cigarette. Cigarette. Yeah. I do remember that for sure.
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Yeah. I remember all the TV commercials and stuff before they yanked all those. And what they need to do next, and I think Bobby Kennedy's working on, is yanking pharmaceutical commercials. Uh-huh. And that would be a big one. Okay? Now, Paul, sorry to interrupt. Go ahead. Yeah. One other thing,
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that I wanted to add is nicotine is not a bad thing. It does, it does, attach to the ACE two receptors, so the spike protein cannot attach to them. And the best source of it, you can get it I mean, MER says you can get it through nightshade vegetables and things like that, red potatoes, tomatoes, like, like, Dave mentioned. There is another way you can get it, and I do this. There is a, genus of tobacco, it's called nicotiana rustica. It is a wild grown, oftentimes ceremonial tobacco used by Indians, And its unique characteristic is the nicotine content of that tobacco is nine times
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the amount of normal tobacco. Oh my goodness. So that's why they smoked it in those peach pies.
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Right. I buy, whole leaf nicotiana rustica, a pound at a time. I think I have about two and a half pounds in the house right now. But, what you can do is you can take a very small amount of it. I'll take a small amount of a leaf and I'll just let it float it in a in a pot of coffee and it just steeps into the coffee. So that way, there's nicotine in the coffee. You can, use it to make nicotine tinctures, with alcohol. You can, like Sherry said, you can steep it, like a tea, put it in your your, foot bath with some water, and then you just soak it in that way. Mhmm. You don't have to smoke or spend the a good portion of the national debt buying nicotine
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patches and have them stuck on your body all over. They they don't have to eat. How much does a pound of that tobacco cost? Do you remember? It's, like, $25. That's pretty cheap.
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$25 for a whole leaf.
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Well, I'll tell you what I would have never believed it. I went up there to Salta when I was in Argentina to go hang around with Bill, Casey and his bunch on one of their open houses. And we're sitting there in a restaurant, couple other people, and here come these vendors that come through the restaurant selling bags of cocaine leaves. K? Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. And so I bought one. And the make tea out of that, boy, it it doesn't give you any of the acidic stuff that coffee does on your stomach. And, man, it will wake you up just wonderfully. It's really good. Doesn't have the base in it. It's not cocaine.
It's just got the stimulus in it. So, anyway, just so I don't do it very often. I would have to go if I I could go get it today, but I'd have to go up to Quito and go to some market somewhere, some seedy part of town and go find the Koko leaf dealer, and I'm just not into doing that. So anyway but that's a lot of people do it is is really good. I mean, it will flat wake you up in the morning. K? Oh, yeah. Well, we had the comment in the
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chat. Jimmy, sent me a private message. Nicotine and rustica. Oh. Okay. Nicotine rustica, commonly known as Aztec tobacco or strong tobacco, is a rainforest plant in the family solanaceae native to South America. Warning, it's extremely high nicotine content. The elevated nicotine levels in nicotiana rustica contribute significantly to its popularity and cultural importance. Indigenous peoples throughout The Americas have long used this plant for various ceremonial, medicinal, and spiritual purposes. The whoops. Wait a minute. The Mayans, Aztecs, and numerous North American tribes have incorporated Nicotiana Rustica into their traditional practices for centuries. And a good place to get it is you can get it from from leafonly.com.
Leafonly.com.
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Now Paul, you mix that with this other Mullen stuff you mentioned earlier. Do you ever do it just straight?
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What? Do you think I'm nuts?
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I I'm just asking, man. I've never heard of this stuff before. It's 87 years old. I am learning new things.
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I think, I think I've done, like, a one hit or a two hit kind of a thing or Uh-huh. Like, take, like, a normal tobacco and and either blend it, you know, even though I don't have a license.
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Well, I see. You're not selling it commercially. You're using No. I'm not. Probably good.
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But, and, well, I I blend it with mullein, and, I have, on occasion, you know, done a straight nicotiana rustica, like, an inch long, whatever. And oh, yeah. You can definitely tell. But I would I would recommend, you know, put a part of a leaf in a in a pot of coffee or, or a pot of tea or something like that. Just drink it. I mean, it's not gonna hurt you.
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So or at least I don't believe it's gonna hurt you. Oh, well, yeah. I probably would not. Although, I may have because the Ecuador is not a country to be a pipe smoker in. I'm a tell you that right out front. Right. Everything's gotta be imported. They grow a little bit here from probably people that wanna roll their own. But I'd have to go you know, when you go hold on a second. But you know, when you go into, like, Walmart or something, you're walking out, you see Captain Black and that stuff right there by the counter at checkout with $7.
That's $21 down here. It lasts a week. So I was spending, like, $80 a month on this kind of tobacco, and I'd you know? And on top of the what what was the coup de grace here was all this dental work that I've gotta get done. And the dentist said, I don't you gotta quit or, you just me throwing all that away. Evidently, it will really impact those,
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implants. So alright. Joe, was that you trying to say something? I'm sorry I stepped on you, buddy. What you got? No. But I think there's somebody else ahead of me. I I don't wanna cut him, but I want have a comment before you get off subject.
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Okay. Well, who else is in there sandwiched in between?
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Yeah. It was me ex gentile.
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Okay. Exgentile is one. Was that Gregory on the other? So there's Sketch,
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Exgentile, and Joe.
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Okay. Sketch.
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Okay. I used to smoke the finest West Virginia golden tobacco. It was the sweetest tobacco I've ever had. It was called Three Castles, and it came in a can. And they used to buy it and ship it to England, pure it, put it in a can, and ship it back into The United States. And they went out of business right after the lawsuits. I was very impressed
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when I Right. I'm sure. My free cash. And you had to you had to quit. Okay. X, what you got, baby? Or or x, gentle? No. X. X is an x. X.
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Yeah. Well, don't Get that meat open. Are you are you guys paying attention to the Supreme Court, ruling on, firearms and marijuana here in The United States? I think you're about ready to to throw the hammer down on on people. Well, we'll You know? Who they gave permission to to to do that? And then and then you know firearms, and then they're gonna they're just they're just, you know you know how they operate doing doing all that dirty work behind the scenes Okay. Setting everybody up.
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XGen, hang on just a second. That's a new topic. I think Joe's gonna wrap this up under tobacco.
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As a Nash national, you don't have to worry about that one bit. Okay. Yes, there are a couple of well, you know what's going on? The Supreme Court opens its session in October, and they're they're they're granting certiorari and they're hearing cases right now, but you may not see that decision till next April. Okay? So but, yes, there's that one. I'll tell you there's another really important one up there, Brent. I don't know if even you know about it. The the Voting Rights Act of the Civil Rights of 1964, which may turn the whole political landscape upside down.
That decision's sitting up there too right now.
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Hey, Russ. Do you you know what the question is?
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Well, I don't really any more than that. I've heard it. I just forgotten it. But it they say it'll that there'll be a Republican regimes for the next fifty years. It's what Lyndon Johnson did to get get the reverse that we've been dealing with that have presented so many of these problems. No no meaning at home.
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Can we go to Joe for a minute, wrap up the tobacco conversation before we go elsewhere?
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Yep. Sure could, please. Go ahead, Joe. This is a this is a question for Brent. We most everybody is aware of what it says in Proverbs about strong drink Uh-huh. And to avoid it. But where in the scripture does it say to avoid smoking?
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Well, of course, it doesn't say it doesn't say avoid smoking tabacky because that wasn't something that grew over there where the Bible was written. But I've had people say that Well, they had hashish.
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They had hashish.
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Yeah. They maybe they did, but it's not mentioned. And I don't know that they knew about it. Frankly, maybe they did. We don't know. But if you can't show it in the Bible from evidence in the Bible, it'd be pure speculation, to say, well, they knew this or that. But let's let me get to the point. Christianity, of course, is what the Bible's all about, the cover to cover. Although they didn't call it Christianity in the earliest times back when our grandma and grandpa, Adam and Eve, were given a partial real estate partial real estate to to, guard and tend to.
But in all of it, there's one chief thing that mankind is to do that is above all other things, and that to know this is to know what you're supposed to do. And I'm, of course, discouraged that it's never hardly ever sell seldom ever mentioned. Our forebears mentioned it over and over and over again. Matter of fact, that was the first thing they learned as they were coming up, the little boys and girls. And the question of the catechism that they hammered at the Puritan Parliament, the Puritan Parliament, the Puritan Party controlled parliament in England.
Of course, they went to war with the crown, etcetera, and that set the stage for our separation from Britain because the people that lost fled to America. But coming back to what they did, they gave a list of questions to the to the men. They they're called today the men assembled at Westminster. And I'm getting to the point about should we smoke? The men assembled at Westminster. And what they did, they sent out, a subpoena to all of the men in Scotland and England and Wales who they thought had the tools necessary to really dig into the Bible and, and find out the answers to the questions that parliament had submitted to them. Parliament didn't want to go beyond the Bible in their legislation. That was the idea. So they said, we're gonna give it to these fellows here, and we want them to answer these questions, and they did. Then it they were assembled for a long time answering questions.
And out of that, those questions answered arose what we call today the Westminster Confession of Faith. Because the answers to those questions also became the Westminster Catechism. It's all one work. The Westminster Catechism is a series of questions, and every question answers a question that the previous questions answer begs. In other words, every question is an answer to a question that the previous answer to the previous question forces. So it's a series of questions that if you learn the answers to the questions, you'll have a strong handle strong handle on what the people that founded our country believed.
We are a product of the Puritan migration, and we are a product also of the migration that came during the next century from, Scotland and England. Among the Dutch and Germanic groups that lived mostly in New York and Pennsylvania, which were reformed in their point of view. They had their own catechism, by the way, called the the Heidelberg and the Belgic confession. And the Heidelberg attracts as the same fundamental positions they took that the Puritans and the Presbyterians from Scotland took. But the first question the first question of that catechism is this.
And all the questions fall within its jurisdiction, within the scope of its ambient. The first question is this. What is the chief end of man? What is the chief end of man? And then the answer that every child who or every child or every grown up that learns that catechism, the answer is in two parts, and they are progressive. In other words, the fur the second results from doing the first. What is the chief end of man? Answer, to glorify God and resulting from that, enjoy him forever. To glorify God and enjoy him forever. So we see that throughout the bible in many different ways, and it's a summation of all of the Bible. But it's taken also very powerfully from the end of the book of Ecclesiastes where Solomon says throughout the book, vanity of vanity the vanity of vanities, emptiness of emptiness, all is emptiness under the sun, tekath shemesh.
The Hebrew phrase tekath shemesh, under the sun. And he stays under the sun, and everything is vanity under the sun till he gets to the last chapter and the last two verses. Chapter 12 verses two through 14. And then he says, see him that everything is emptiness and foolishness under the sun. What is the whole duty of man? See the parallel there? What is the chief end of man? What is the whole duty of man? And then he gives the answer. And when he does, he, at that point, gets out from under the sun and brings the creator of heaven and earth into the equation. And he says this, that the whole duty of man is to glorify God is to fear God excuse me. Fear God and safeguard his commandments.
The King James says keep, but the word Shamir means to safeguard. It's the same root that first appears for the first time in the bible when it when God tells Adam to keep the garden. That's an old English word that means defend. In the verb form, it means defend. Defend the word of God and, fear him and defend his word. There is and it goes and then Solomon says, for this is all of man, the whole duty. There isn't anything else. And I agree. Obviously, that's what the Bible says, and everything in the Bible falls under that command. And everything in the Westminster Confession falls under the summation that they make taking that statement and many others. For example, David said in Psalm 16, I have set Yahuah.
Tyndale said, Jehovah. The word means he happens. It's a verb. That's the name of God. I have set him always before me. Result, therefore, my heart is glad. I have set Yahoha. I have set the lord always before me. Therefore, the result, my heart is glad. What is the chief end of man? Glorify God. And the result, enjoy him forever. My heart is glad. Okay. We got that. So Paul the apostle says in first Corinthians, writing to the cruddy Corinthians, I like to say, and they were cruddy. Stedman called it first and second Californians. That's how cruddy they were. And he said, whatsoever Paul the apostle writing to the cruddy Corinthians says, whatsoever man does, do all to the glory of God.
Glorify God? What's the result? He didn't give the result right there, but that's what you do. You don't have to worry about the result. The result will happen. But to glorify God but then the question, of course, that forces another question, begs another question. What is the glory of God? Another question. How do you do that? And all the Westminster Confession does that. It just keeps answering those questions, breaking it down further and further and further. But just to start with that, what does it mean to glorify God? Well, glorify God. Well, let me ask you this. I had people say, well, can I can I smoke pot? I had a guy when I was out in California.
He's smoking pot, and he was, oh, boy. He was smoking pot and, drinking a lot. And and he said, well, where in the Bible does it say I can't smoke pot? I said it doesn't say that that doesn't say that expressly anywhere. Where does it say I can't drink liquor? Well, it doesn't say that either. Tells you how dangerous it is, of course. It tells you how dangerous opiates are too, by the way. Doesn't it say not to do it in excess, Brent? Well, yes. And and other things too. But what it says is, do not be drunk. That's what it says. Yeah. But getting back to the thing about and and I'm glad you bring these things up, Roger. Let's see. You it all I'm saying is just begging more questions, but let's try to answer this one real quick, and then we can talk if other people want to wanna talk. But, Paul says, whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
So, oh, you wanna know if you could smoke pot? Well, let me ask you this. And I used to ask Joe this. The Holy Spirit of God says he lives inside you. And by the way, I was there when he he recognized his conversion. You you don't do your conversion. You recognize it happens. People call it conversion. Whatever you call it. When God gives you the new birth and he births you from above by his will, then you recognize it. And I said, Joe, if the spirit of God the Bible says the spirit of God lives in your body, in your organs, in your bones, in your marrow, he's in you. Maybe you should ask him if he wants a toque on a joint.
Maybe ask him. Or if you wanna take a slug of liquor, ask the spirit of God, the person of the spirit of God, would you like to have a slug of liquor? Because he's right there. Whatever you do, he's gonna he's gonna be affected by it. It's gonna crowd him. It's Gonna crowd him. That's my answer. So can you here's the question I would ask, and I'm not answering it for anybody. That's not my jurisdiction. My jurisdiction is to present what the Bible says, break it down as much as I know how to break it down, and maybe there's something you can do with it. Can you smoke tobacco to the glory of God? That's the question that I think is is foundational to to understanding a whole lot of things about life. But number one, is this sin or is it not sin? Can I smoke pot to the glory of God? Can I drink liquor to the glory of God? Can I smoke tobacco? Can I chew tobacco to the glory of God? You go down to Kentucky, down there where those kinfolk of mine are, and you go to church down there, and they'll all go in the church house. No kidding to this day. It's such a part of the culture, and they'll walk out of the church at fundamentalist. We're talking people that believe the Bible. They'll come out of the church house, and they'll light up their pipes and their and you don't. In that part of the world, you do not preach against Tabakki.
If you do, you'll you'll not make a living as a preacher. Maybe you think you ought to. I don't know. I'm just saying in that culture, that's not something you talk about. And because it's so much a part of what who people are and what they do, and even even to this day in some places, they grow a lot of it, and it's their living. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying here's what the Bible says, and the question is I know what it says. That's easy. The question is, how does it apply? And there are two things always with true law. What does it say?
Secondly, how does it apply in your life, in your situation, in your particular set of circumstance stances that, by the way, are different than everybody else's, oh, by definition. The application of the word of God the an application of the law of God, I should say, is, as multivarigated as the human mind. But the law of God listen to me close. The law of God never ever ever ever changes. Its application is different in such different situations, but the law and but the application, when you go to apply it in your life, keep this in mind. How can I apply this in a way that undergirds, upholds, and declares true the law of God?
That's the ultimate question. And that's the ultimate question, just as a matter of principle, the Supreme Court ought to be asked, and every time they interpret the constitution of The United States to a different application. How can I interpret the application in this specific instance of this specific case in a way that upholds the principle of God's law? Upholds if it's the constitution. If it's a true principle, uphold the principle, for example, of the constitution of The United States or the constitution of your state. If it's good law, if it's consonant with God's law, it's good law. If it's consonant with God's law, it's good law. And that's what the men at Westminster wanted to know. We don't wanna pass legislation as mere mortals that goes a field of the Bible. So you men at Westminster answer these questions for us. By the way, that particular document's worth reading, worth looking things up in. It's on the internet. You can find it. I recommend it to all my listeners.
Check it out. Oh, it also has, of course, all of the foundational doctrines of Christianity that theologians deal with in the beginning. For example, who is God? What about the person of the Godhead? How do we know? All those questions it answers too. And then it gets to the practical application. For example, one of the raging questions in that day that there was gunpowder. The reek of gunpowder was in the air and hanging in the noses of the men that were assembled at Westminster. Hanging in the noses of the parliament. They were at war. These were questions that weren't just hypothetical, theoretical philosophy.
No. No. This stuff was real. They were answering questions that had to be dealt with right then by action. And one of them was, what is an oath? And when do we, as servants of God, when are we obligated to take one, if at all? And how to do it? Why? Because at that time, monasteries all over Europe were closing. Monasteries and nunneries had been closed in England, but Rome was trying to reestablish them. And the people that were doing it were requiring blood oaths as, for example, required with the with, the secret societies, the Masons. And we talked about on this on this program, and Joe was kind enough to tell us a whole lot of things about that. And I appreciate that, Joe. That was a milestone in my life to have a Mason come and talk to us about it. But all of those things about oaths were important at that time because the question was, if you were a Roman priest or a nun that had taken those blood oaths, did you have an option to disregard your oath?
That was real then. Real real. And it by the way, it's real real today too if you're called in to do jury duty. And you take an oath to obey the instructions of the judge. And you get in the jury room, and you say, wait a minute. I don't believe the judge was right, or I don't wanna do that. I think there's something else going on here. Do you have the the right or the duty to put it in contemporary terms to disregard your oath? And the answer is yes. Because an oath to do something that you and your heart of hearts have discovered later is unlawful or that you knew was was unlawful to start. You don't have an option to disregard your oath. You have a duty to disregard your oath. But they're trying, of course, to control jurors that way all over our country by having you swear to obey this. You can swear to do it. There's nothing wrong with doing that because you have every reason to believe the judge will instruct you correctly. But when you discover in your heart of hearts that he hasn't, then your duty comes to disregard your oath. All of these things are in the Westminster confession, and they're apropos, on point today because the fundamental questions of mankind are what some people call perennial.
That means yearly. They just keep coming up again and are always ever present because the MO, the Wiles, w I l e s, of the devil never change fundamentally. And people a new crop of suckers comes along, every day, as you know, because new folk are being born and there are young people. And the old folk, it's our duty to teach and say as much as we can what the truth is that we've learned by bad decisions. Yeah. And a whole lot of the things. Roger, go ahead. And that's why they got the whole industry of old folks home so they could separate the grandparents from the grandparents. Good point, Roger. Good point. But I don't wanna miss summation. Whatever your activity is that your question, you smoking, drinking, doing pot, fornication, whatever.
If ask yourself this, does this make God look better Or does it weaken the gospel toward other people? Will it make my brother stumble? Paul goes into that too. There there are things we shouldn't do, although we have freedom to do it because I I don't wanna sit around and drink beer with a with a fella or in the house of a fella or have him in my house sit around drink beer. And I know he's trying to deal with alcoholic alcoholic tendencies. You see, it's a matter of application. It's a matter of what can I do to the glory? How can I make God look better? How can I strengthen my Christian brother if he's struggling? All those questions go into it. And so, Joe, I appreciate the question. That's helpful.
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That's where life is. Anybody else got any comments or questions on the, on the Yeah. Right. We've discussed for over an hour? There it is right there. Wayne does. Hey, Wayne.
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Oh, this is Samuel.
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Oh, it's Samuel. Samuel. Sorry.
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I wanted to expand a little bit on what Paul said. He mentioned the, 600 substances that are added to cigarettes. Well, they actually are about one eighth to one quarter depending on the brand of the weight. So it's a lot of stuff. And on top of that, when you ignite it, now you in the smoke, you've got six, they say six to 7,000 different substances. So to go go back and even try to put this on tobacco is a bit difficult because you've got such a complex compound here, and then you've got us which are all individuals and complex. And I think once you add that much, chemical to something that God made, you could start calling it pharmakia. And once you're in that area, now now you've got a substance that's condemned in the Bible.
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Yeah. Well, it can't be anything like the original substance, and I totally agree with you, Samuel. Thank you. Who who else has got something? Very valid point, Samuel. Who else has got something that we can launch off wherever we want? Well, what direction should we go in? Brent, audience, you wanna give us some stimulus? Well, I did get that. The ninth circuit rule ruled against, Gavin Newsom in California yesterday on Trump's ability to call up the National Guard.
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Oh, well, we knew where that would go. I well, I that was an easy question. Yes.
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It wasn't like it was hard. You gotta respect Trump. He's on even though they know these are roadblocks put up there intentionally by these liberal judges,
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he's still recognizing them until they get overturned in in in appeal. I think that's that's and that's what I get it. That's good, Roger. See, that's what Abe Lincoln didn't do. When it came to habeas corpus, instead of waiting for the court the Supreme Court to rule, which would've taken a little time, it would well, it would've went straight to Supreme Court. Wouldn't take him much time. Instead of waiting for them to rule, and then if the ruling he disagreed with it, then go against it, it'd be good to wait until they do rule, and then maybe you'll find agreement. You know, there's no obligation among the three branches of government that they obey each other. The president doesn't have to obey the Supreme Court. Supreme Court doesn't have to obey the president. Congress doesn't have to obey the president. The president doesn't have to obey Congress, and on and on we go. But it's helpful and stable if they can do it.
If they can agree agree somehow, it's good that they seek to do that. But in that particular case, he just said no. We're at war, and I'm not gonna wait. Well, like, as like I say, because we were at war, waiting wouldn't have been long, and he could have done that. I think there were between eight and nine hundred violations of habeas corpus during his administration.
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Did did he not put the entire Maryland legislature under arrest or is he threatened to? I know he put I I in rest. Scott Key's grandson in.
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Yeah. He he arrested the legislators that he knew it was probable that they were gonna vote vote to leave the union. He arrested the opposition. Yeah. And he understood politics. One time when he was in the Illinois legislature, they had a group of men from Southern Illinois called the long nine. There were nine of them, and they were all over six foot tall. So I think it was nine. But, anyway, there was some number. All of them, they got tired. Well, the legislature at that point was in Southern Illinois at a place called, Vandalia, which was the official end of that first federal highway system, I was talking about that Right. Cumberland Road.
Yeah. Cumberland Road was no. The kind of the Cumberland Road was supposed to go to Saint Louis, but they ran out of money at Vandalia. At Vandalia, they they because Chicago, see, had been founded during that in the eighteen thirties, And the place was going like gangbusters, and they didn't expect that. And within forty years, it was the economic hub of not only The United States, but in in truth, the entire world.
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And and you know why? Yeah. That fast. What's that? You know why? Go ahead. Go ahead, Roger. Louisville was offered the railroad and they turned it down because they had the river.
[01:14:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It could be. Of course, then also though, Chicago connected to the Atlantic Ocean too. See? Yes. Through the through the, through the And then and then when they got the Illinois Central built from Chicago to New Orleans Roger, I hope you noticed I'm saying that the way you do. New Orleans. You you're doing a lot better. Thanks. Thanks. But, they should unless they connected, that that connected the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf Of Mexico, and you could make, by water, a complete circle. And I've known people that have done that. They they No. People take their yachts now and do that. They go Right. Out. You know? Well, they're scared to go in The Caribbean. There's a damn many pirates everywhere.
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Mhmm. Mhmm.
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That is true. Rich folk, I'm talking, that don't have anything else to do and more money than sense do that. But, Roger? Link, I was gonna say real quick, then I'll let whoever's wanting in, let him in. Jesus, John. Understood politics, and him and those other fellas came to a vote, and they didn't wanna vote at all for a strong political reason. And they locked the speaker of the Illinois house, had locked the door so nobody could get out. So those fellas jumped out the window. Second story. And they helped each other out. They got ticked off. They said, we don't have to vote if we don't want to. I mean, Lincoln understood politics. That's what I'm saying. And he understood what he was doing. Whether or not he made the right choice is another question he could've went. Back to you, Roger, and somebody tried Joe. It was Joe's trying to say something, Joe, buddy. No. It was it was Samuel.
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Oh, man. I just wanted to add quick quick confusing me. You know?
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I I I I'm I'm cautious about Trump going into these cities as you well know, but I wanna add something positive that he did. He he got this ruling in California, and yet, I think it was yesterday he called up the mayor of San Francisco, and he asked his opinion about whether he wanted that help or not. And the mayor said, and I guess this is true. I've looked into it as much as possible. Statistically, they have reduced the crime and the car break ins and violent crime a lot, and he is doing, it looks like, a bang up job. So he and Trump agreed that there'd be no action in San Francisco, and it but it does appear that the mayor has it in in his plan.
If it would be required, he it is like a last ditch thing for him. So I I think that's great that Trump took his advice and deciding not to
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go in based on what he's already doing and, what they're accomplishing there. Because they probably need all the troops they can get down in LA with that whole nest of thieves. That that's encouraging
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news. I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't know that. But encouraging that he's practicing restraint and what the law calls comity. That's kind of a funny word. C o e I n e y. Comity. It's an interesting word. Yeah. Restraint of the between the competing jurisdictions and not just running over everybody just because you can.
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Yeah. Well, I'm gonna tell you It also sounds like this mayor,
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Roger, it also sounded like this mayor is working with ICE
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and other federal agencies to achieve his goal. So, you know, it he's not I don't know much about this guy, but I think I'm gonna look him up a little more now. So Yeah. Well, I for those of you who've never been out there, I know Brent spent a lot of time out there over the years. San Francisco's gotta be one of the most stunningly beautiful cities in the world. K? I mean, I know Vancouver. I've not been to Vancouver. I've heard a lot of stories about it, but San Francisco is just stunning. And, the thoughts of the things that you hear about, fecal matter on the streets and syringes everywhere and all the horror stories, it's just, it was just real sad.
Anyway, my 2¢. Anybody got something to add or direction they'd like for us to go? Roger. There's Larry. I know I can identify his voice. Hey, Larry.
[01:19:22] Unknown:
Hey. Good morning. A little while ago, Brent, quoted a verse, be not filled with wine, and he left out a very important word in that quote. Be not filled with wine wherein is excess. It's the excess that causes the drunkenness, and that's very important because in another passage in the Bible, Paul is encouraging Timothy to take to drink a little wine for his stomach ailment. And, the and here's another thing. I'm not trying to justify drinking alcohol because the overarching principle that we have to go by is to avoid the appearance of all evil. So, you know, every man needs to guide himself sufficiently in his own mind.
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Very important word, excess. Anything in excess is not good. There's a lot of things that if you don't do enough of, they're not good for you. And then certainly if you do too much, they're bad for you. So I think that happy harmony is that middle ground with no excess in either direction.
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Well, I'm glad he brought that up for a couple of reasons. Of course, that's what the Bible says. But secondly, just to make a correction, I didn't quote that verse. I wanted to, and I'm glad you did, but I didn't quote it. I'm it it fills things out. But what it did say was that when you take the calculus of what the Bible says, it forbids drunkenness. And when it says there excess, that's the context, and that's really the meaning of the word, drunkenness. We don't want God said then the question comes, what is drunkenness? That's an important question too. These are Paul the apostle, though, notorious for, not really for not finishing his thoughts, not unpacking everything he says.
John and James and Peter aren't that way. And the reason is, in my studied opinion of what it's worth, the reason is Paul is educated beyond his intelligence. And he talks like an intellectual because he's got the equivalent of two or three, doctor's degrees. And Peter and John and James aren't hampered by any of that. The vocabulary is small, and they hit the nail with their heads, and they finish their thoughts, and they don't leave things hanging. And everybody agrees Paul leaves a whole lot of stuff hanging. You don't know exactly like, that that's a good one right there.
Being, drunk with wine. But of course, he's making another point there entirely. What he's saying there is, be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but rather be filled with the spirit of God. Well, of course, I tell people filled with the spirit of God and they say, oh, no. That means you get the second baptism. No. It doesn't mean that at all. And that's just silly talk. What it means that listen. When the the spirit of God does not come in parts, he comes in person. The spirit of God comes in person because he is a person. Therefore, he does not come in parts. You either he's either got you is the best way to say it. He's either got you or he doesn't. He either lives in you or he does not. He hadn't got one leg out and two legs in or one leg in and and and two and two arms out and one leg in and one leg in. No.
He is in you. Here's the question though. When Paul says be filled with the spirit, that's not something you can do taken in the way the charismatics take it, that you can get the second filling. It's not even understandable. So what does he mean? He means this, and, again, an illustration that I've probably used before. If I've used it before, just bear with me. There are other people here who maybe didn't hear it or haven't heard it at all. I have a buddy named, Mikey. I won't tell you, his last name, but I will say he grew up in a hardcore German a settlement a hardcore settlement of German farmers.
A hardcore settlement, a hardcore German farmers. Put it that way. Now people think if I were to ask who the richest ethnic group in America is, a lot of people would say, and I've had them do it to me, say, well, the Jews obviously have more money than anybody. And I say, no, you're wrong. I've read the statistics. The statistics about who the richest ethnic group in America are tell us clearly that it's people of German descent. They are the richest people in America. They have more money than anybody else, including the Jews, but there's a reason for it. And the reason is they work hard.
They're smart. They have developed. I shouldn't say they're smarter than anybody else, but their culture has developed a discipline. That's what they've done. And that's important in America to get ahead. And, he was from a community like that. Well, that means but we used to talk about people being Scott. You know, that means you're tight. Tighter than tree bark, they say at home. Or so so tight you won't squeak when you walk and all that kind of stuff. Well, that was all true about the Scots too. It still is. Tight fisted. But the Germans are that way or worse. Or worse? No. That's good in many ways. Well, that's the way Mikey was.
And Mikey, I went to his house one time, and I was in politics. He was helping me. We were painting signs back when we used to paint signs on four by eight piece of plywood, and he had a he he was like an engineer. He had an assembly line set up where we had one guy do one thing, you know, one guy, another guy do another thing. And we had these signs. We had stencils, and he was cranking them out the door. And I went in to drain my radiator. And I looked in the, in the tank. It was open. I looked, and there were two bricks in the tank in his, on his toilet.
I came out and said, Mikey, what's the what's the two bricks in the tank for? He said, well, there's no sense of me wasting all that water. I mean, I don't need that much water when I flush. So I put bricks in the tank and that that way I don't use so much water. And I thought about that a little bit. And I said, that's pretty smart. That was before we could get all the as the way we can now, the different kinds of toilets with the flush that use a little water and a lot of water and all that stuff. He didn't have that, so he put bricks in there. And later on, the light went on. I said, I get it.
I get it. That's a perfect illustration of what that verse says. If you are a Christian man or woman born of the spirit, the spirit of God, the person of the spirit of God lives in your body, in your organs, in your brain even. And all of him is there. He's omnipresent. He's God. All of God is at every minute point in all of his creation, but he lives in the man that is born from above. And in a way, in a way, he doesn't and anybody else. And all of him is there, omnipresence. But when you crowd him, you're not allowing your you're not allowing him to fill out your your body, your brain, your soul, your person as he wants to, you're cramping him. You're cramping him as though he were in a bottle, and you're putting other stuff in there that make life hard. Now that's an illustration.
That means it's an analogy. And that means it's to illustrate a point. And every analogy breaks down at some point. So don't bring a lot of criticism to me about the analogy. But the analogy I'm using does illustrate the truth of what the Bible says when it says, be not drunk with wine if wherein is excess. But the point is, be filled with the spirit. What is he saying? Listen. When you drink booze when you drink booze, it has an influence over your your brain, your body, everything. Paul is using booze as as an analogy to the spirit of God. He said, you wanna be spiritual, don't drink booze, don't do opiates. That that's not what this is about. But matter of fact, that will crowd the spirit of God.
If you wanna be spiritual, be filled with the spirit, just like you, if you're gonna be filled with, with with booze, you pop the cork and you pour it down your gullet. Well, then how is it that you can be filled with the spirit? This is the analogy he's making. How do you do it? Well, you take in that which is spiritual. And what is it that's spiritual? The manna from heaven. The manna from heaven, the spiritual food. We're all wherein you must feed to for the spirit of God to be operative in your life in a meaningful way. What is that? It is the word of God itself. The word of God.
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That is the way to be filled with the spirit. And to not have that in you is to to bar the spirit of God from dwelling richly in your body. That's what the Bible says. Drell dwell richly in your body. And if he dwells richly in your body, he has a control. He has a control that makes you powerful for his glory. Maybe one illustration from the Old Testament that I think, well, it adds to this a little bit, and then I'll stop, is the illustration of Samson.
In other words, a time in Samson's life, he was a powerful man physically. And there was a time in his life when he killed single handedly a thousand of the enemy in combat, personal combat, he killed them with a jawbone of a jackass in one hand. And he whipped them all. And they were well armed with armament, swords, shields, who knows what else, spears and javelins. He killed them all. Now that's quite a chore to kill a thousand men in one encounter. But the Bible says that he saw, and it's a long and fascinating story how he came to be in that position. You can go read it. But once he was in that position, he didn't know what to do. And he looked down and he saw the jaw, the dried out jawbone of an ass laying on the ground, not far from him. He went and grabbed it, and he went to work.
They attacked him, of course, and he went to work. The Bible says at that point, when he picked up the jawbone of the ass, and the prepositions are graphic. You know, prepositions tell us the relationship of one thing to another thing, one thing to a man, one man to another man, two things, two persons, a thing and a person, relationship between those two objects. If I say, for example, that the book is on the table, well, that reveals clearly the relationship positionally between the book and the table. The book is positionally on the table. That's what prepositions are for, preposition.
They tell you the position of one thing in relation to another. Well, the prepositions, the Hebrew prepositions there in that narrative are colorful beyond colorful. And the picture that these words paint is the picture of the spirit of God entering the body in a special way, in a powerful way somehow, of the the body of Samson as though the spirit of God were a hand sliding into a glove, sliding into a glove. And when that happened in a in that way at that time to Samson, his power was unstoppable. Jesus Christ said of all that and all the things that the miracles that his impaneled jury of 12 men saw, he said much greater things you will see.
And the the things that are going to happen through my people will be much greater than that. These are all pictures of what God's going to do with his people. And what I've noticed though, Roger, to drop a footnote about that, is God working through me? Was God working through Samson? Is God working through you? Or if you're Christian, man or woman, yes, he is. But Samson didn't know it. Samson didn't know nothing. He's the one who whooped the Philistines, and he did. And then it says he laid down. He thought he was gonna die. The spirit of God had used him like a rag doll, wore him, plumb out, but he didn't really understand it. Like when the children the the the sons of Israel, Moses came down off the Mountain Of Sinai after receiving the word of God, the law of God.
And it says that because he was in the very presence of God himself, the reflection of light from his face shone like the sun. They came down off the mountain, and the people commanded. They said, you've got to put a veil on your face. We we can't stand to look at you. We have to turn our heads away. And then it says it throws this comment in that's very telling. Just in passing almost, it says it. It says his face shone like the sun, but then it says, but this is the old King James. I remember it in old English. It says, but Moses Moses wist, w I s t, not that his face shone like the sun. He didn't know it. And when God is shining through you in ways more powerful than you even know, you don't know it.
That's what the Bible teaches. And you can bear that thread out all through. You may find out later, but don't think that you're going to enjoy because if you could, here's what would happen. You'd start taking credit for it. That's what would happen, and you wouldn't glorify God and enjoy him forever as the old confession says. Somebody started to say something.
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Who who was trying to say something there? I heard it also.
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Oh, good. We're hearing the same thing.
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No. They don't want a it must have been mute thing, going once, going twice.
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It wasn't me, but I just like to say that's very beautiful. I appreciate that.
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Yes. Thank you for making And also about
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oh, go ahead.
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No. I just say it's important that I then say that I didn't say that. The Bible said it, and I take absolutely no credit for it.
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For for fear that Yeah.
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Pointing it out, it's, yeah. It's so, you know, I think what you do feel probably is just an amazing amount of love when you're filled with that. You know? And, that's Well, no. God's love glowing through you. But I wanted to say about wine too. If you go to gty.org, that's Grace to You and John, MacArthur is gone now. But, there were some very interesting things he talked about wine in the bible. And it's it's like, just a term for grape juice and all the different ways they used it. Very often, it wasn't even fermented because that was considered sin. And it they even used it, like, kinda jellified, like a medicine, if you remember the Good Samaritan. Right? And, so whenever it says wine, it doesn't necessarily mean alcoholic.
And it's interesting that alcoholic drinks are called spirits, isn't
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it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They are. Yeah.
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Yeah. John. John. John or Johnny Mac as his friends call him. One of his, one of the things he major majored on was trying to show that wine, that the Bible talks about was one twentieth wine and, 19 parts water. Now I think he's pushing it a little too far. He was a teetotaler. I think that he what he's saying is not true. The way he presents it. I don't want to criticize a man who can't answer back to me, and I'm being very respectful when I say this because he was a good Bible teacher, but I respectfully disagree with a lot of what he said about that. I think he went too far in attempt to say that nobody is supposed to that the Bible commands us not to drink wine. And he did say that. That was his position.
And that I don't I can't see that the Bible says that for what it's worth. But I not the not to demean him in any way.
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But, there are things to learn from his presentation about it. And he had a lot to say about it. And you pointed that out. But, you know, you know There are there are others that say that too, but, yeah, it it might get take it a little far, but it's also, you know, I mean, like, when Christ turned his first miracle reported there in John second chapter. Right? The, turning the water into wine at the wedding in Canaan. And, Uh-huh. You know, was was that wine, you know, or was it grape juice? You know? And, yes. It was wine. It was fermented.
[01:36:34] Unknown:
Yeah. And we know that because that's what the words mean. Plus, he makes the comment or one fellow makes the comment. Well, the best wine is always is always, consumed first at a blowout like this, a wet in or at least. And Then you won't notice that the the other's not as good. You'll notice. Yeah. Yeah. So, that tends to indicate clearly. Of course, you don't have to go that far with what the words mean. And if you go to the winterized version of the Bible, I have included long notes on whether or not that wine was fermented. Now let's say the wine wasn't fermented. Well, it's still a miracle. A suspension, a temporary suspension of the normal courses of the laws of nature if you make grape juice out of it. But the word there doesn't mean it means fermented wine and I try to show that at length for whatever it's worth.
Thanks for bringing that up. Brent? Yes.
[01:37:35] Unknown:
Yes. Hi. This is Robbie. I I had the same, question because I had understood there were different words for wine, and some of the words meant fermented and some of the words were meant unfermented. So are you saying in your in your, scripture that you you specify whether each each mention was fermented or unfermented?
[01:38:01] Unknown:
If there yeah. If there's, if it's wine, as in John chapter two, when Jesus Christ, the record says he turned water into wine. But if there's a place where it's grape juice, I would the the translation at the least would say so. And a lot of times, if I think people it it provide it needs an explanation, I drop a footnote. I drop there's over 35,000 footnotes. Most of them are explaining why it translated this way or that way. And, because that for example, in the King James Bible, just as an instance, I have found words in the King James Bible that were, a single Hebrew word, for example, translated over two dozen ways with two dozen English words.
That's not accurate, but I don't fault them for it. I'll tell you why. It would have been utterly if I were to try to do that today without the computer tools I have to compile information, if I were to try to do that, I couldn't do it. And they didn't have that and they didn't do it. They just they did good. You know? I'm just saying we have tools now that enable us to do things quickly. When I was in school, I worked for a couple of fellows that were translators of the New American Standard Bible. Well, three, four of, four of them. One of them in particular, and all we did was compile information for him. You know, that's the way it is when you're in school. Students, do the work and the professors get the credit. That's And the students don't even know what they're doing. You know, they're just doing go for work, looking for things and and and cataloging things and making lists. And we did all that because computers weren't available to do that, and we did it.
And now today, I can do all of the things that two dozen fellows were doing for one man. I can do all those things and do it even faster. And I don't even have to spend money to do it. Yeah. I can I can punch a button on my computer and bring up every occurrence of a particular Hebrew word? No matter what form it's in, I can punch another button and I can bring up every occurrence of that word in a particular form and translate it the same way or with the same English word every time. Now there are some instances where you can't do that. You know, you run into those kind of words. You can do it 20 times, but there's that one time it just doesn't fit. That happens too.
But what I I I say, because I'm merely human, I I strive to do everyone the same. And I say that's my goal. And I do work at it really hard. And if the good Lord himself allows me, I'll be working at it the rest of my life. But it's it gets better all the time. I mean, it gets more consistent all the time. Probably gets easier for you too. Oh, yeah. I'm going a lot faster. I'm going a lot faster. Yeah. Because But the reason Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Somebody's gonna say something. I made that point is that most people
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don't realize that there are different words for wine in the bible, and some means, fermented and some means unfermented. And to me, that's a really big deal. I come from an alcoholic back family background. So it's it's really a background. So it's it's really a big deal. It's much more of a big deal than most than we realized.
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Well, I'm glad you said it that way. It is a big deal, but every word of God is a big deal. Because Jesus Christ said every jot and every tittle. And of course, every jot, that's the smallest Hebrew letter, tittle is a serif on the end of the letter. Some of the letters that change one letter to another, well, that would change a word. That could change the whole meaning of a passage telltale badge that says whether or not you're born from above, and it says it over and over and over is whether or and it says it over and over and over is whether or not you keep the word of God.
That doesn't mean do it. That means keep it. That means safeguard it. I was saying about that word a while ago, Shamir. It means to safeguard to the point of violence if necessary. You guard it. You don't change it. You don't add to it as it The Bible unpacks what keep means. It says, don't add to it. Do not take away from it. Deuteronomy chapter four, the book of Revelation, the last chapter. Don't do that. That's the mark of the Christian man or woman. That they guard the word of God with whatever tools that they're given. It's no small matter in what You make the point. Every word tells.
And if God's speaking, I wanna know what he said. I don't care about anything else. I hadn't ought to. I would just know, well, what did he say? That's what I have of him. I have his will. And the Bible is the record of what he likes, what he wants, how he responds to it. Every way you can imagine, he's telling us what he likes and what he wants. That's called law when it's the sovereign, and he's the only true sovereign.
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Back to whoever else wants to talk. Well, it's interesting. We spent the whole show on smoking and drinking. Yeah. That's pretty unusual around here. Yeah. I'll tell you one thing. I'm like, Robbie. I came from, I think you know, a alcoholic father.
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Uh-huh.
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He wasn't a bad drunk. He's a happy drunk, but he's drunk nonetheless and sober for seventeen years before he died. Uh-huh. And I just can't stand to be around drunks. Well, that's the way I'm such full of themselves, and they're draping all over you. And they're it's just really unpleasant. I try and get away from them as fast as I can.
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Yes. Very, very dangerous. Liquor, is dangerous in the extreme of the Bible warns about it over and over and over, but it does not give us mere mortals authority to legislate against it like we have done in the past. It doesn't work. God has given us a jurisdiction. He's given us the Bible to warn us, but that's the balance of the matter. No. Yeah.
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All things that make them illegal, all it does is create black markets.
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That's why the men at Westminster, the the the parliament assembled them by subpoena to say, we want to legislate. We need to, but we do not want to go afield from the Bible. Please answer these questions. And if the laws that men pass in their governments go beyond the jurisdiction that God has given men to legislate, then they're not law at all. And the hell will, the hell that will be paid for passing them will be without measure. They understood that. That's why they asked. That's why when that same political party got to America during the massive period of migration of the 16, from 1620 on through the 1640s and the 1650s, they didn't impanel or did not put legislatures in put in place right away.
They had judges, they impaneled jurors, they had a governor to command the militia, but they said we've got legislation. For right now, we've got the Bible. We're we're we need to start there. You know, it was that way all across America. When the California gold rush started and all of a sudden there were a 100,000 Anglos in California and 10,000 federal troops in San Francisco, and they didn't know what to do. Men established governments right away. And they did not elect legislatures. They did what they had done all across America as men hacked their way across. The first thing they did, they only got involved with the government with some kind of government if there was a problem. If there's a problem and they had to impanel a jury, they'd do it. That's what they did.
And they the Puritans did the same thing. He'd done it. So we need to get back to that now.
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We need to get It's happening. What's happening? Fundamental. Yeah. That's right. There's an incredible resurgence of Christianity and people going to church. Now they're probably going to some of those, you know, Zionist things, but they're still going back to church and looking for answers. I think that's very positive.
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Instinctively instinctively, when there is a crisis, said a famous philosopher, I believe he was from Spain. But he observed that when there is a crisis, that means we must make decisions. We must do something. When that happens, men instinctively turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. Now that's just an observation. I've I see it in the Bible though. I see it happening. I see the record of that in the Bible. Men will turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. Oh, I know what I wanted. And did you hear that judge
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that's overseeing? I'm not sure where he is. The, Charlie Kirk assassination has put a gag order out on over 3,000 people. No kidding. Where was that? I'm not sure where he is, but he put a gag out or a a order out this week on over 3,000 people, including Candace Owens. According to him, they're not supposed to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Don't you think that's a little bit suspicious and maybe an maybe an overreach?
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I I would think and I'm I'm I'm, speculating, but I I I would think that it will be disregard across the board. I'm willing to disregard it. Aren't you? We're breaking up. Oh, of course. I think it's absurd.
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And it brings to mind the quote, which I credit John Vincent to. Edward Gibbons, who wrote The Rise and the Fall of the Roman Empire. And and the quote that John used out of that whole voluminous, because it'd be a couple of different books, the a corrupt judiciary is the first engine of tyranny.
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Oh, no question. Because at that point, at the judiciary is the only place justice can occur. Yep. Justice doesn't occur in the legislature. Justice doesn't occur in the executive branch. Justice can only occur in individual instances with persons. No broad brushes of legislation. No broad commands from an executive like a president or a king, but only in individual instances of disputes and only individual persons. There's no such thing as justice with a labor union, justice with a an association. That that's not something our common law even recognizes.
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Well, you get that situation where a judge has that kind of of the wide range of decisions. And now what do you get that's even more corrupt? Prosecutors. Because they got no checks and balances.
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What you have there is a a judge who went through school. He wasn't taught anything. He wasn't taught the fundamental things about our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is more fundamental to us than the constitution of The United States by far. That our common law tradition without it, the constitution of The United States means absolutely nothing. And that's what we're losing. In other words, every phrase and every clause of that brief document freights centuries of our common law as it applies to government. And with it doesn't explain anything. It doesn't unpack or expound anything. It just states things in brief fashion.
Couched in terms of our common law, that's a quote from chief justice staff Taft of the US Supreme Court. If I say, or as the constitution says, you have a right to trial by jury, well, what does that mean? Somebody reading that that did it from another country wouldn't have a clue what that meant. And most Americans don't know what it means either, frankly. They might know well there's 12 persons on a jury, but they don't know how important that is or why. How do you impanel a jury? How do you use a jury? What does the jury allow to do in the jury room? Those are common law doctrines that go back centuries. And if they're not followed, then the decision of the jury is as our constitution points out in the federal federal courts, yeah, the decision of the jury is worthless. We gotta go back and do it again. When it says when it says you have a right to remain silent, well, what does that mean?
And where did it come from? And how did it start? Is that part of our common law tradition? Yes. Goes back centuries. What about the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures? The, Fourth Amendment. What about that? The right to remain silent. The Fifth Amendment. Freedom of religion. Where'd that come from? Well, it didn't come from Magna Carta. None of these things came from Magna Carta. Magna Carta is just another observation like our constitution of what our common law is as applied to government. And solid stepping stones in the history of our common law, but to not know those things is to be absolutely hamstrung. That's why I see this.
I've got conservative friends, or they think they are, they wanna be, that are out to alter the constitution. Change it. Yes. A real and I say, well, okay. The constitution allows for that because it's not the bible. It does have errors, and I can point out what I believe isn't correct in our constitution. But the constitution's admission that it is not the bible is the the provisions that are in it that says here's how you change it if you think you need to. Now that's all there. Yeah. But we should be very careful about that and do it for the right reasons. And I noticed the people that wanna do that don't understand anything about it, and they wanna do it for the wrong reasons. And they wanna change things that are not part of our common law tradition. They wanna change it into something else. They wanna have these constitutional
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conventions, and what they don't realize is that opens that up for both ways. Oh, they and they wanna do that. See? I know. Yeah. And and they're they don't have the power and influence that the money powers do. I'll tell you.
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I'll tell you. I look at I look at all of the changes and the the amendments, for example, and you get past the bill of rights, those 10 amendments. I don't know. I don't see anything there that's worth much anything that we really needed at all. Even the one that says we're not to have slavery, that was taken care of itself. We didn't need to do that. The one that says that women have the right to vote, if there was gonna be a correction there, that's a state matter, not a federal matter. As we learned we should have learned when Trump the election was stolen when Trump ran for president. We said, well, the problem here is the feds are stepping in trying to dictate to the states their election laws.
We didn't need any of that. Our common law tradition will take care of that. But if you try to do it in one fell swoop in a draconian way, like amend amending the constitution, then there's never any good comes from that. The beauty of our common law is that it it steps forward sure sure footedly sure footedly. And the only way to be sure footed, you're walking through a minefield. That means you go slow. You don't go fast.
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Yeah. You can't have something poking the ground in front of you too. What's that? You better have some kind of implement that's poke in the ground in front of you too. Well, yeah, that's what I say, of course. When you go slow, that's what you'll have. That's right. I agree. I don't know what else you've heard. There's a lot of stuff going on, Brent, on on the election. They're trying Trump's trying to get us to paper ballots. They're trying to outlaw machines. They've gone through one county in Texas. They found 2,500 illegal, voters on the on the rolls, and and they're trying to go across the whole country with that and trying to get to a point where we got paper ballots. Yeah. Larry, go ahead.
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Yeah. You brought up the gag order. So, Candace has already she broke her silence with a, an ex post, and she said that she's not gonna abide by it. And then, that was a couple of days ago. And, apparently, she when she said she was going on a ten day, you know, holiday, you know, morning for a friend
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Sabbatical.
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Yeah. So it was probably ten business days because she left on a Friday. She only does business Monday through Friday with her podcast. So she said she's gonna be back Monday with some very, very sobering information.
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Damn. I told you. Soon as she gets back a couple of days and the Indians get away from the wagons, brace yourself. I it just appear everything out there appears that Israel assassinated this guy, and it's all turning on him. K? Couldn't happen to a better bunch. Who else has got something here at the end of the show? Is that Rick? Is that Rick?
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Yeah. I heard last weekend that, Trump instructed his head of DOJ, I forget her name, started firing federal prosecutors that refused to bring charges against all these
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government officials, criminals Right. And whatnot. Did you hear anything about that? Well, I I I would love to see that. I hope that's the case. I did hear a blip this morning that the mortgage fraud against Schiff, the senator from California, is is, being slow walked, of course. But they have knows this. They've indicted Leticia James. They're looking at Fannie, what's her name in Atlanta. They're trying to go after Jack Smith's, license, and, they they got actions ago about to indict Brennan. We we've got John Bolton. We talked about that a couple weeks ago, 18 counts. There he's starting to the heads are starting to roll a little bit, I hope.
Brent.
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Brent, maybe. There you go. Yeah. Maybe things well, thank you for looking at. I need permission.
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Brent? Okay. We're at the end of the program now.
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Is is that somebody talking in the background or something, or are we missing you or what? No. We've we've got an echo coming back from the free conference call, but, Brent, take a few seconds and talk about commonlawyer.com before we get out of here altogether.
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Harold Shame on us. There there's a Harold that has his mic unmuted that is having background noise. Okay. We'll mute you, Harold. I think Lisa can do that. Thank you. And thank you, Paul. Thank you, Paul. This is Brent. Brent Allen winters commonlawyer.com.
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Www.commonlawyer.com. Go to the website commonlawyer.com and join us for our law class at Winters Inn declaration of '76, not the constitution of The United States. The declaration of '70 '6 clause by clause and blow by blow, we're gonna go through it and show its organization. And that is the document, by the way, always published traditionally with our constitution of The United States because it breathes life into the dry bones of our constitution. Yeah. Very true. Real case and controversy. A commonlawyer.com and many other things that winterized version of the Bible, you can get there in digital form or hard copy and a whole lot of other books we've written and courses. And
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And if you don't have a church home, he's, I've got two hours on, p PSB, PBS over there, PSB, Patriot Soapbox on Sundays. So you might wanna check that out. You can get to it on the website.
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Yeah. Go to church with us. On Sunday morning, we're going through the books of Exodus and first Peter right now, clause by clause and blow by blow. That's my habit, clause by clause and blow by blow. We can't improve on the organization,
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so might as well follow it. Yeah. Well, we certainly appreciate you hanging out with us over here for a couple hours on a weekly basis, Brent. And you always bring us such interesting stuff and different perspectives and ways to look at all of this big life stuff in a different way, and we sure appreciate you.
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You you appreciate
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you and all the people that make it possible. I mean, if it weren't for some place for me to talk, I would probably
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Explode. Swell up and burst. Yeah. Yeah. I feel the same way. If I didn't have this group right here, who the hell am I gonna go talk to you down here about all this stuff? Not very many fluent in it. I heard you there, Iron Man. Be nice. What have you got?
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You don't have anything? Okay. I just I got yeah. I got dropped. I got dropped by, your staff. But, anyway, what I wanted to say Staff. What I wanted to say is there's no such thing as too much of a good thing. I would argue that there's no such thing as too much of a good thing
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and that there's no such thing as too much of a great thing. You said everything in moderation. No. Well, I think that's a general rule. I think there's a general rule there that supplies, and there are certainly exceptions to it, I'd imagine.
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Let's discuss this. For example, love the lord thy god with thy, what what comes after that, Brent? Love the lord thy god with their with with your your entire heart and soul and see. So that's you can't get too much love of god. See? And there are other things you can't get too much of. You can't get too much love of of of a, fascinating woman. You can't get too
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Oh, I don't know about that. I think you're going a little farther. I think you're I think you're going over the line right there.
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Because you're talking about idolatry at that point. You can't get too much of God. That's true. But too much he's the creator, but a created thing like a man or a woman or some other inanimate object or an animal. No. You can get too much of that, clearly.
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Okay. Brent, you're already at lunch. I can tell. That's right. Well, see, I don't have the I don't have missus Brent fixing things for me and bringing them to me. So I have to do all those things myself, and my stomach is telling me I need to get going on it. Yes. Quick, Mara.
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Yeah. The judge is, Tony f Graf, g r a f, junior. And, he was appointed to the fourth district court in May 2025 by governor Spencer Cox there in Utah, Juab, Millard, Utah, and, Wasatch County. State judge.
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It's a state judge that's doing this. How ridiculous. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, remember, May is when the Turning Point rented out the stadium where they and they rented it for September 21 when they held the memorial.
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Yeah. Do you know I think I heard that a 120 colleges, Brent, have applied to have chapters of, Charlie Kirk's organization since he got assassinated. It's making it grow like crazy.
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Yeah.
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So for whatever that's worth. Well, anybody else got anything for me? It doesn't sound like it. Well, we'll be back tomorrow, of course. And, we'll look for you if you're there. And if not, you can go visit Brent. He's opposite me tomorrow. You can go visit him, or you can do whatever you're gonna do on the weekend. But we'll be back tomorrow for the Saturday edition. Brent, thank you so much. Always a pleasure. And, I just, I was so I'm so fortunate that our paths crossed so long ago and that we've been able to continue this wonderful relationship and and and and to introduce you to my audience. And, we just really appreciate it, buddy.
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Thank you, Roger. Appreciate you too. Otherwise, I couldn't be here. And all of you folk that listen and the ones that contribute, we appreciate it all. It helps me understand what I well, what what I could say or what you're thinking, what I need to say, what I think I need to say, and
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that help that's helpful to me and my ability to try to get my points across. Well, you know, it's like this to me is a great fulfillment. I've never had my life with so much purpose before. And the the the the feedback loop of being on this platform and having all these good wonderful people and these great discussions in-depth into things that are so very important, is just a wonderful fulfillment for me. So I finally feel like I'm doing something God meant for me to do. Okay? Rather than just chase chase dollars. Here's a thought, Brent. Have you ever seen that picture? I'm not sure which Rothschild it was over eighteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds maybe. They had a zoo. He was loved animals. He has his own zoo, and he had a Galapagos turtle.
Uh-huh. Have you ever seen a picture of him sitting on top of that turtle with a stick with a piece of lettuce out in front of it, in front of that Galapagos turtle's nose? Have you ever seen that? I think I have seen that on the Internet, Roger. Isn't that an illustration of the system? Yeah. Isn't that a perfect illustration of the system? Uh-huh. Absolutely. Unbelievable. So it just hit me the other day. I saw that picture years ago. Came to my mind. I thought, holy smokes. It's right there. He's he's sticking it right in your face. Yikes.
Alright. See you all on Saturday. Have a great day. Ciao. Love you, Brent and others. Bye.
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Quick comment on the, judge in the district Fourth District. He did say that all those 3,000 witnesses had to be identified before the gag order would be able to be enforced.
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Anybody, hear anything out there around all on YouTube or amongst different military communities and stuff about the invocation of the continuity of government, especially under the current administration.
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I did a show on that. I
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well, you did a show on it, how long ago?
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Couple weeks.
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Okay. That was probably was that was that after or before, you, heard, Derek Johnson, talking about it. They're trying to give an explanation on why all this this insanity that crazy stuff is going on that makes you scratch your head on whether you're being totally, you know, deceived or you gotta be, quote, in the know to know what's going on, really?
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Well, yeah, that was. Derek Derek Johnson is, very fluent in that area. I don't know what all that background noise is, but
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Yeah. Hold up. Yeah. He was he was saying that, all all of this all of this stuff that's going on is is just, basically, a a theater act, a show. And the basically, the I think the continuity of government is, sounds like the, president Trump is the war president that utilized and took all the things that the, neocons and the democrats had implemented years ago, and he's basically using that against them. But to do so, a lot of the, you know, president Trump was always saying, you're fake news. You're fake news. So, it very well it very well could be. And he and he said that there's even actors on that stage that we see on mainstream TV that are, actually on Trump's side, but they're being utilized to draw out more of the, the enemy.
So
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Right.
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So I'm I'm, I'm curious, though, where, I haven't had a chance to listen to what, Ron Paul had been saying about any of this. But, I I think there there are concerns within the patriotic community that, think, well, what if it's literally a a psyop where it can be utilized, in the negative? So in other words, remember, we we've always been told that, you got you got an eagle and you got the left wing and the right wing, but they're all part of the same, system. And it sounds like president Trump is trying to bring back the I hope that he's trying to bring back the, as they used to say, du jour, the du jour, American republic or constitutional republic with its original intent.
Whereas we're so we've gone so far almost off the cliff where we're we're getting ready to go off the cliff financially and maybe maybe more ways than one. It it just it's kinda hard to really think of how this this is what the remedy is gonna be.
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Well, all of this is ongoing, and, Stephen Miller, you know, came forward, one of the newscasts. I played a clip from Matt Kim's, YouTube that someone had sent me. And it's, he freezes after he says, about Trump winning another case and, because he has plenary authority. And they they were making jokes that, Matt and his friend, what's his name? Something Saddington. They're both Korean, I guess. But, you know, of course, they're using the f word all over the place, so I tried not to have that air too much. There were a couple times, but, you know, that he, he said the quiet part out loud.
But I can't help but wonder if it wasn't maybe staged that way too to some extent to, you know, blatantly put it out there in front of all of us that, you know, wanna be gullible. And, you know, now how is he gonna use that power? Right? So it's all ongoing. Fascinating time to be alive. That's for sure.
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Well, I have a question about do we do we need the Venezuelan oil to continue the government, you know, the, top Navy guy who operates in that area in Venezuela just resigned. And, I guess he didn't wanna play along with whatever was going on down there. So it's very interesting. I would agree. But there's definitely psychological operations going all over the world, not just here.
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Yeah. It's the Luciferian Brotherhood. Actually, beyond all of it, the, ties all of the nastiness together. Yeah.
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What was Dick Cheney's code name in secret service? I can get what it was, but it was appropriate, I'd say.
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Yeah. Well, Hildebeast was evergreen. And what did we see? The evergreen, container getting stuck for some time. And, you know, if you look into those containers, go back with Belgium in the eighties and the all the stuff they're doing with children then, and they park the ship at the end of the wharf because it's so much stench coming from it. And, so this one reporter was saying, you know, dress like a dockworker and go in there in the local and, you know, get familiar and friendly and, find out more what's going on. And and, some of these containers would have, you know, full of children in cages and stuff. And, they'd have 40% spoilage, which they liked because of the the other 60% very easy to handle.
Well, it was death.
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Wasn't, w's code name turd blossom?
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No. That was, that was, what's his face? His green
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Rove?
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Yeah. Karl Rove, and and that's what w called him. That was his nickname because of the Okay. Kinda horrible, circumstances he grew up in. Chaney's was Angler. Angler? Okay.
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Thank you, Lisa.
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Yeah. Karl Rove was the one that, got them to change from, Operation Iraqi Liberation to Operation Iraqi Freedom, or he was credited with that because, of course, that acronym is oil. Operation Iraqi Liberation. A little too much in your face.
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We create reality.
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The hell they do. They manipulate there's there's one creator. They manipulate. Yes, ma'am. Hey, Mark. Did you say the other day that Sharon Tate was not killed? Right. Mhmm. Miles w matthews dot com slash tate dot pdf.
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Okay. But that other couple before the man before that Karen Tate before that Before that. Karen Tate story with man.
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The couple the couple It's involved. It's it's about Manson. It's about the whole thing in that Yeah. That PDF. Okay. Yeah.
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Manson was involved with that couple beforehand. Okay. Thank you.
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Wasn't Satanism apparently, associated with that whole murder back in, what was it, 6068 or something? What was that guy's name? Anton LaVey, the Church of Satan in LA, Jane Mansfield.
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Yeah. Her wig came off when they were in the wreck. It wasn't her head that came off. But yeah. And his real name is, Howard Stanton Levy. He's a Jew. But, of course, he's a brand of Satanism spread all over. And people have made the, observation that Taylor Swift looks like his daughter.
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Right. So then what about or, correction. What about, Jay Mansfield then? Did what what did you say? Did she she did not,
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get in that car accident? Or Oh, yeah. She was in the accident, but they you know, the photographs, they tried to say her head says she was decapitated, but it was her wig that came off.
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Okay. But she did but she did die in a car accident. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. And then and then Sharon Kate did or did not?
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Nope. Miles w matthews dot com slash kate dot pdf. Read all about it. Took plenty of pictures.
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So well, then if that's the case, then it sounds like Shakespeare's The World is a Stage, and we're all actors in it might be making more sense now.
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Yeah. And and Shakespeare, that might have been a consortium. Actually, that was the name of a glove maker. And what a great name for a glove maker. Right? Shakespeare. You're protecting your hand with the gloves. Right? Very well very well may have been Edward Duveer, who was awarded the court. Because you remember, somebody died to the according to, you know, from the black death, quote, unquote, which was really Jews poisoning water all over Europe. Yeah. So, but he always had to play within a play. You know?
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So so let me get this straight. I never heard that one before, the poisoning the well,
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basically. Right? You never heard about the you never heard about the Jews poisoning the wells in Europe? Did you hear Netanyahu, Malakovsky, complaining that they're blamed for that? They're rightfully blamed for that. And they were held to account in, Saint Valentine's in 1348. And you'll find it'll say 1349 now, but maybe there was more than one. They claimed to have been a massacre and, where a lot of Jews were killed because of it. And so you'll find, Saint Valentine's massacres, since then, including, six hundred and seventieth anniversary that was part of
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what? I'm sorry. What was the location of the Saint Valentine's Massacre?
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I'm not sure where that took took place. I forget. But you could look it up.
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Yeah. Because isn't there is there the one with or something?
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What was that? I'm sorry.
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Wasn't there wasn't there a Saint Valentine's massacre without Al Capone, eliminating seven guys in go back in the day?
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And Meyer Lansky possessed by a demon. And what they did, they sat across the, alleyway in another garage and listened, while the, you know, the police and different ones were killed. Yeah. But that was another and so was, 1945. Look what they did to Dresden.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. That that was, that was the British. Right? And the American eighth Air Force?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. But who was it done for? That was a holocaust. That's you know, I did just don't choose some orders. Now people do their research. I get some email from the one guy that called in, and he, after reading something, was convinced that the Jews are, Jeff Pools of, you know, these other Vatican and everything else. Well, they, you know, infiltrated the Vatican from the beginning. It wasn't Simon Peter. It was Simon Majus that really the Catholic church is based on.
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Yeah. I I heard that one. Simon the sorcerer.
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Mhmm. Yeah. And if you ever you know, like, sometimes I would catch if I'm up late and it's the wee hours and it's already, like, Easter time over there, and you'd have people lined up around the wall going into the Vatican for the big celebration. And then with the Divock lockdown, you could see how it looked like it was taken from a satanic practice. You know, it's a satanic ritual. You know? Because they had a few people and they're six feet apart, and it's dark, few candles, and it's just spooky. Yeah. What's not Christ is the antichrist. Oh, glory to him. If you're not, well, guess what?
And, selfishness is, satanism is what Patio said. And they never do selfishness. It's satanism.
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You know? The He wasn't that built?
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Yeah. Kinda. But, I don't trust him either. He tries to act all innocent and stuff now, but he keeps all his satanic trinkets around still, apparently.
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Who's that?
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Pacio. Mark Pacio, where the naming goes by.
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Who? Well,
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I'm not sure who that is. Well, you're just as well off then, or you can look into it.
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Because I I I heard that well, it kinda, like, looked like Jay z. I saw him with a shirt that said do it thy wilt, and I think it had Anton LaVey picture.
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Yeah. Well, that's a Crowley saying, Aleister Crowley.
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Yeah. Aleister Crowley. So I don't know if it's true or not, but supposedly, after Rudolf Hess had flown over to England to try to try to negotiate with the, I guess, the king at that time or the parliament, they, never let Rudolf Hess, ever ever, talk to, and do any negotiations. They just did everything to shut him up, and that's why they put him in Spandau after, you know, the Nuremberg trials. And then he was never I don't think he was ever interviewed. They tried to keep him keep his mouth you know, they silenced him. Mhmm. Yep.
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We didn't know that every you know, both world wars were, about Germany because they are so diligent and, cooperative with each other, and, they were Christian. And Mhmm. Didn't have that. And, so Brent's talking Brent Winter's talking about them being the wealthiest. He's seen the statistics. Well, there's a saying, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. Who wrote the statistics? The ones that really have the wealth? You know? I'm just saying I'm just saying. There's not not much to be trusted.
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Lies, damn lies are under statistics. And and Brent will quote statistics. Right?
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Right. Right. But we we have this tendency to think, oh, you know, we know they lie, but it's when they're speaking, it's not necessarily what's written. It's not numbers. No. It's all lies. Like the CDC, for instance. Right? They said there was, like, three hundred ninety three thousand flu cases a year. Well, people don't report flu to the doctor. They stay home and get better over a couple days, And doctors don't report flu to the CDC. It's all made up. And that came became very clear during the devoque. Right? Oh, no flu. Just devoque. They're just lying.
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They're just, you know Job just job justifications, I guess.
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What's that?
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Job justifications.
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Oh, yeah. Alright. Well, you remember Thompson. Right? William Thompson and Brian Hooker got him to to come out and confess kind of, what they were doing with the the MMR shots is is to get him in, especially in black boys, but in all the children before they were three years old because that's when it could do the most damage. Yeah. Good chance of making him autistic. And then, of course, he kind of rebuked everything, and they destroyed all the records. And he continued to work at CDC, and Julie Gerberding went on to, work for, I think it was Pfizer, one of them. You know, she was the head of CDC.
I mean, that vaccine vaccine part or whatever. Yeah. So they're all crooked, and it's weird because right at the same time, that was 2014, I believe. And, that's when traffic can't there was a fellow named also named Thompson, but he didn't have the p in the name. His name was, I wanna say Patrick, but it's probably something else. But he's from Mercer, Pennsylvania, and he was there at the farm to look at equipment. And so traffic can't comes back in and goes in, park his tractor in where he usually parked it apparently. And, there was a scraper there that threw him through the tray tractor upside down and him under it. How did he get like that?
Well, this, Thompson didn't wanna be, you know, oh, no. You know, he had the phone, so he called for help. And he was the only witness and and you only find him in one report. He didn't oh, no. You know? They're just a little little too little too curious. You know?
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Well yeah.
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They've made another political party, and it would have really gained steam, I'm sure. You know? So
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he had a CBS
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was, just well, yesterday, they were talking about they were talking about, they were interviewing, I don't know, five people or so from different, quote, backgrounds, and they were all basically, people that were disappointed in what, you know, the whole political system in The United States. And they were talking about, what are the chances and what would it be what would everybody's opinion be about a third party? And, I guess they discussed a little bit about, you know, why a third party would never work. But then, also, I I thought that supposedly George Washington in his farewell address had mentioned something about that whole party concept was damaging it was going to be damaging if it it was ever implemented in in to the country at a later date. So I don't know if that's some kind of a folklore.
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That's why it was kept. If you have two parties, you have the most friction. In Germany, they had at least 32 parties before the, regime got in and 33 and made it one party. So if you have that much true diversity, you're not gonna have agreement to go to war or to make to force people to pay all these taxes. That's why they wanted it.
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So do you think Germany well, I I can't I don't think anybody wants to go to war. I don't think actually, I don't even think Germans the Germans are probably just so No. They're
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Look at look at, Hitler's, peaceplans.com. Peaceplans.com. That's by Mark Elsas. That's a really good page. Check that out. Yeah. All these peace proposals. And, you know, remember, Germany was only half the size of Texas.
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Oh, I know. I know. I I was stationed over there. So and Oh, wow. I I looked into the I was fascinated with World War two, and I had an opportunity to have conversations with lots of veterans. And, I accidentally mistakenly I thought he was a German, and I I asked him and and the little German that I know, I I said, And he he looked at me, and he's like, yeah. And I I got all excited, and I said, well, And he looked at me. He said, I was I was with this I think he said the second Russian shock army, and I just like I just like, bloop.
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Yeah. They're one of the conquerors. Right?
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Yeah. He he yeah. He he and and he he he he shook he shook his head because he he probably saw me blush. Right? And, shook his head and looked at me and said, hey. He said, no. It's so it's he said it's okay. He said it's okay. He said, look. Many this came right straight from this veteran, a Russian veteran. He's he told me that we hated Joseph Stalin so much. We hated him, and we were hoping that the Americans would have kept on going because we would have thrown our weapons down. We would not have fought against the Americans because that's that's what they were a lot of people were hoping that the Germans, when they had gone in, that they would have, you know, they wouldn't have started, I guess, with the Einsatzgruppen or, you know, whoever coming behind and, you know, eliminating lots of people. But, he told me he said, like, no. We we wouldn't have fought the Americans. We we we hated Stalin.
So that was a validation right there.
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So so many of the things we're told are just lies. You know? Yeah.
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But, So I you know, the so I, there was one guy there was one German guy that I I I used to talk to all the time, and he he was a he was a German, soldier in the Battle of, Saint Mary Lygles where the I think it was a a hundred and first dropped in on the, the the the church town, and the one the one American paratrooper got hung up in the clock clock tower. He was a he was a German in that battle, and I remember him saying one time, I mean, he he was like he said if we killed he said if we killed all the Jews, then where'd they all come from after the war?
Because he said they're they're they're all over the place. And, I even asked, I even asked an American. He was an American military guy, and he he he told me that he was he was in a lot of concentration camps. He was being bounced around, all over the place, and he said he, you know, he he escaped a few times. He got caught, and but he said he was a, you know, he was a young kid. But, I asked him. I said, well I said, Bruno, I said, if if if the Germans did all this horrible stuff, then why would you wanna why why are you living in Germany if you know, I would think that you'd be heading to another country that that would, you know, like Israel or heading somewhere else to to to live. And he said, look. He said he said, we Jews weren't the only ones in in the concentration
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camps. There were all kinds of people in the concentration camps. Lots of Germans in the concentration camps. Yeah. It was they were against communism, and, they would do their time and be released often too. So yeah.
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So so that was a that was a that was an interesting, statement from him. And then, there was a number there was another German, German that actually was a last it was the last German soldier that, I had a conversation with before I left Germany, and he used to he used to I think he was coming from an old folks' home. He was just doing a, like, a daily walk. And, across the street from me was one of these little putt putt places, but I stopped it one day, and I, you know, I I said the same thing, you know, and he said, yeah. Yeah. And, I said, division.
He's and he said, the division. And I'm like, wow. Oh, oh, okay. Cool. And, you know, I I shook his hand, and so the next time next time I I think it was a couple days later, he he came by. And I I grabbed this book that I had in my room, and it was it was a book about the. And, I walked up, and I showed it to him, and he's like and then he started speaking English. He's like, where did you get this? And I'm like I told him I said, look. I don't know if you know this or not, but the the the German Wehrmacht is is famous for their, land warfare, methodology, so to say. We the Americans copied it, and, he was stumbling through the book. And he's like he's like, that was that's my commander there, in this photograph.
And this this commander of his he was an officer, so he he was, he was up in the, you know, higher echelons of the, Giberge, your second division. And he, when I when I read the caption, I'm like, yeah. I remember him. I think he got, yeah, he got killed in Yugoslavia in an airplane crash. But, you know, I asked him. I said, well, I said, tell me about, you know, tell me about your experience. Where where were you when the war ended? And he told me he said, I was, working. We were operating, the second was operating in the, French Alps, and we surrendered in the French Alps.
And he said because of the, what was it, the I wanna call it operation teal hall, or part of that. The Turan, when they when the three amigos got together, in Turan, I think they were deciding how they were gonna divide up the axis countries after the war. And, anyway, he he's made the statement that anybody that was any division or unit that fought on the Eastern Front, it was negotiated that they had to, be sent over to the Russians, be be turned over as prisoners to the Russians. And I think that was Operation Keelhaul.
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Yeah. The Russian refugees and everybody, they were sending them over there for they knew they would be killed.
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Right. Especially Ukrainians and Russians and, you know, that were ones that, I guess, kinda slipped through the cracks. And,
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Have you heard Michael Gatti talking about Patton and, when they found out, I forget what the, anyway, they were sending the all these, technical, US soldiers to, Siberia. Or I think it was called Moscow bound. Moscow Bound or whatever. Yeah. So For what? To to do work there, and then they'd eventually be killed. And, there were, like, 20,000. And and Patton said he was he had had it out with Eisenhower on a train platform, and he was saying he was gonna take Germans and, put them in American uniforms and send them in to bring those guys back.
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And Yeah. I had one I had one of those uniforms, actually.
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Oh, wow. So he was dead shortly after. You know?
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It was, alright. Now now did you you said did you say Germans sending Germans to Moscow, or did you say Americans to Moscow?
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Well, they had already taken the the, they had the, Moscow bound and took 20,000 Americans, But they, I don't think it was allied forces, Americans, specifically. And, and so Patton said he was gonna put American uniforms on Germans and send them in to get these guys out.
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Oh, okay. So did the so did they eventually
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they did get to do it. He died soon after.
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Right. Yeah. He he he I think I personally think he got assassinated. But Of course. He was assassinated. Yes. Yes. He was killed. Yeah. And that, what was that? There was a really cool movie that was, made in the seventies. What was the name of that movie? It was really good. It was, it it had to do with the, gold.
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I don't believe it. You have two movies anyway, but
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yeah. But, yeah, it was it was a it was a good movie. So so few good movies. Yeah. Yeah. All good movies. Screw them.
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Manheim.
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But it it was a it was a good good movie because, basically, it was it it almost validated, when I was when I was in a I was in a place, I was I was sitting in this, sandwich shop in the old first Kabeerjager mountain troops, their barracks there, and it was it was turned into a, like, a a store. Armed forces, you know, where you get your your supplies and stuff. But, anyway, I'm sitting in I'm sitting in this room with the first American, sergeant. He was a military police sergeant. I think he was with the tenth armored division. And, he said that in this room we're sitting in right now, there was stacked almost to the ceiling bars of gold.
And he's and he said that there was a a a convoy a small convoy of, American, Doosan half trucks that showed up. And it was a it was a either a full bird colonel or a light colonel. But, anyway, he said that we've we've come to pick up the, we've come to pick up the, you know, the gold. And, he said he had the he said he had all the proper paperwork. So these guys loaded up the the addition hatch, with with his gold, and they took off. You know? And they're they're thinking that, you know, whatever goes on, you know, above, you know, your your pay grade, you know, you just have all in orders. But, yeah, they released the gold there out of that room.
And come to find out, supposedly, it was actually a an SS officer that was impersonating an American officer that had gone gone and collected that gold. And that's where it disappeared from. So I don't know if I don't know how true it all is, but that's what I was told by, an American soldier that was from the tenth mountain tenth, armored division that that, yeah, that gold was in that room we were sitting in. Now since then, they tore that building down, and I'm extremely upset because they did it because, it was a beautiful building. And, it just seems like, yeah, they have a habit of, I guess, over the last twenty five years or thirty years now, they've been they've been tearing down these these structures that literally were built to last a thousand years.
And, yeah, they've they have to bring a wrecking ball out, and it takes them a long time to tear these structures down because they're they're they were built so well. You know, you you know, soldiers could fight out of them. You know? But, yeah, that that's a that was a really interesting story. I got to hear from a a veteran in, in the town that I was, stationed in at that time.
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Yeah. Very interesting. Thanks thanks for sharing.
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And going back to that going back to the last German that I talked to, yeah, he he he turned out to be an officer in the second Gebirjager. And when he started, you know, telling me about what happened after they were they were they surrendered in the French Alps, his unit was put on trains and were sent to Russian POW camps. And he he had tears starting to come down his eyes. And he said, I spent seven years in a gulag, and I I witnessed a lot of my comrades die, work to death, starve to death. It was a you know, he he said it was horrible.
And I remember telling him, well, I'm I'm I'm sorry I didn't mean to invoke, you know, painful experiences, but I know now. You know? I got to hear it firsthand. And I was one of the I was one of the people that used to seek out just talking to veterans. And that it didn't matter what side of the fence they were on. But literally, when I when I talked to that, that soldier in Frankfurt that was, in the Russian shock army, and he told me how much they hated Stalin, that vilified, you know, a lot of things that I had read and heard from. And then and then, actually, I talked I played I played, and I used to drink I used to drink beer and play play chess with a former KGB officer.
And, I never beat the guy in chess, but then I never I never was a good chess player. But, he told me that his, I think he said it was his it was either his father or his grandfather. The reason why he he told me he hated Joseph Stalin, and, he he wouldn't have you know, he was probably about my age, but he he said that, our village hated Joseph Stalin because, and this guy was this guy was kinda like, what do you call it? He was from, not Chitania, but he was from one of those, southern, Russian countries. One of the Stan, Uzbekistan. I think he was from there. But, anyway, he was telling me that, he was saying that Joseph Stalin came into their village, and anybody that was over the age of, like, 14 was was, put up against the wall and shot.
And he said that Joseph Stalin killed his killed, I guess, it would have been been his grandfather. But he, he said, we hated Joseph Stalin. So that was another validation
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of Yeah. You know, a good movie, it's, Russian, has subtitles, but it's, from '93. I I used to have the independent film channel. You know, that was my one thing on the eight foot dish we had, and the rest of the family had their their things. But that was, like, really cheap and, they had so many interesting things. But, anyway, I think came out in '93. It's called Burnt by the Sun. Burnt by the Sun. And, you know, you don't see Stalin in it. You do see where they're raising a, you know, a thing of him, but it just shows how how brutal the whole thing was. And it went on over time and just, you know, and the different personalities, how they you know, the roles they played and stuff.
It's it's it's entered really on a family and and you just have to see it. You probably enjoy it. Imagine. And I have Russian friends and and, you know, some back there in New Jersey and, I don't know I don't know if they even watched it, but, it just reminded me of them. You know? I'm are you basically, like like all of us, we just wanna live our lives and be left alone. You know? Not brought into this crazy satanic blood sacrifices.
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Well, that's I guess that's validation also about how Jesus said he said that my kingdom of is not a rich world.
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Exactly. He said if it were, they would have fought for me. Yeah.
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And that's why listen. Yeah. Why Judas didn't understand. Judas Judas was expecting Jesus to be in the physical Yeah. As a as a king and a warrior to to run out the Romans.
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And he was he was the kind of Jew we would call, like, synagogue of Satan. He and Christ knew he had a demon. And, Satan himself entered him there at the last, you know, when he went when they were in the upper room and he went to to, get the little ecclesia together to meet in Gethsemane. But but, he was the one that, he was the bag man. He held the money too. You know? Pretty interesting. Yeah. But it all but it all sounded like he was,
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you know like you said, he,
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he had a spirit or something in him. Well, he did, and Christ did that. He knew. And he was the only one from down in Judah. The others were all up, you know, in the North from Galilee.
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Yeah. But I I I get the impression that that that Judas didn't I don't think it it sounds like to me that he didn't have any ill, he, I don't think he had any ill will towards Jesus. He was just he was just up he was upset that, he was selfish and materialistic.
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Yes. He expected Christ to come in a physical way against the Romans.
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Right. Yeah. And he didn't he didn't comprehend or understand. And,
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he did going out and hanging himself. You know?
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Yeah.
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And, they went to give the money back too. And, of course, that was blood money now. So they threw it in with the, you know, the money for the, like, Potter's Field type thing. So yeah. Mass burial type. Yeah. It's been crooked all along, but there's only really two sides. Which one you on?
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Yeah. So yeah. Trying to remember. Yeah. There's so going going back to the whole German experience. Yeah. Europe is really, really beautiful, and I, I always I always used to tell the Germans. I'm like, well, I'm grateful that you folks rebuilt your country back to look like it had originally, been, to the best of, you know, your abilities and stuff because Europe is just stunningly beautiful. I mean, there's just something about being over there that just made you feel made me feel, anyway, made me feel like, like I was in Hawaii or or just being in a just be in a place you wanna be in because it's either a show aesthetically beautiful, you know, or, yeah, every I I didn't I hardly saw I hardly saw any violence when I was there. Thank goodness.
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Well, you know you know, Dresden too, in 1882, they had the first ever probably the only ever, this thing more recently with Carrie and the bunch was very small. But, about the Jewish problem? We had a big conference held in 1882 in Dresden. And, for sure, that's why they were, you know, holocausted in the on Saint Valentine's Day in '45. Went over a couple of days, actually. But, I mean, they left so few people alive that there weren't enough to bury the dead. You know?
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Yeah. So it sounds like they've they've done a lot of things on Saint Valentine's Day. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Thanks.
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It apparently goes back to, you know, the fourteenth century. And, you know, never forgive, never forget, never enough, their motto. Even Stephen Benun, who he comes forth with a lot of, being Jewish, Sephardic, and now Christian, comes forth with a lot of interesting things and how they were after the Armenians because, you know, that's why they killed them. Why they had that, because of some perceived, you know, where they dared come against them. And that's what's going on right here in this country. There's too many people waking up to the reality that, you know, they're trying to flex their muscle.
Mhmm.
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Oh, yeah. The actually, I think the first German soldier also that I ever talked to when I I got to Europe, I was up I think I was up on, I went on one of these little one of these little, tours. I think it was in '85, when I had just got to, to Germany, and I wound up going on a ski trip with some of the other, guys in my unit. And, when I was up on the mountain, I think it was in Austria, and I saw some I saw some people skiing with some old, I knew what it was. I I could tell it was old, SS camouflage, but I think it was in a maybe a modern modern version of her something. But anyway, I saw this I saw this guy skiing on one leg. Right? And I I stopped him. I, you know, I I talked to him briefly and I said, you know, I I also asked him if he was in the in the war, and he said he said, yeah. He's like, this I lost my leg in the war.
And he it turned out he was with the, SS division Nord. And, so I was you know, I shook his hand and, you know, said, you know, glad you made it. And, I think I might have got his address, but I don't think I ever I never replied to any of these folks. But, but, anyway, yeah, he, he was he was skiing on one leg, and I'm I'm thinking to myself, wow. That's really cool. And another and another German soldier that I, had known, he was 75 years old, and he was working in the in the in the kitchen. And I and I asked him, and I said, well, I said, Walter, every time every time I see you, you know, walking out on the street stuff, it it pains me because I can see the pain in your face, you know, every step you take.
And, I asked him, I said, what happened to you? And he said, well, he he said he was, he was in the Luftwaffe, and he was in a 88, anti aircraft unit. And I believe he said he was in the battle of Normandy. He was also, he was in Berlin he he was in Berlin defending Berlin at the end of the war, and he said that he'd caught a fragmentation grenade, which which, you know, badly badly, you know, wounded him in the leg. But and he was taken prisoner by the Russians. And he was him and the other Germans that were with him were utterly determined to get, you know, get away from the Russians and and try to somehow escape over into onto the, you know, to the American sector wherever they were.
And he was successful at doing that. He escaped the Russians. And, he said, I have to he said, it's important to me that you gotta keep on moving on. If when you stop, he said, that's when you your body starts deteriorating and breaking down, and then you die from lack of mobility. So even though I've got this, you know, injury that's with me to this day, I just gotta keep on moving on. You
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know? Yeah.
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I hope I hope god bless him. I hope Walter's still alive out there, but more than likely, I remember he was tell I remember he was telling me, twenty three years ago, I'm, well, it's twenty five years ago now. He said, I'm I'm 75 years old. Today's my birthday. And, he, yeah, that was twenty five years ago, so he'd be 100 now if he was still alive. I hope he is. But, yeah, he he, apparently, he came from, the Eastern part of Germany, and, he he said his parents owned a restaurant. And one, one day, he made some he made some bread, some fresh bread, and then he gave me some. And I was like, wow, Walter. This is delicious.
It was, it was it was bread that, he had made, and I'd never had bread with that literally had, pieces of bacon in it. Oh, wow. Yes. You know, yeah, pieces pieces of, soft bacon that was baked into the bread. It was really good. Oh my gosh. I'm like, Walter. Wow. That's fantastic. No wonder you no wonder you, you know, you were you said you worked in a restaurant, or your parents owned a restaurant. And, yeah, there's lots of people that I literally, every every German that I ever talked to, everybody. There was one German woman that she said she she had, like, five brothers, and she lost three of them on the Eastern Front. Yeah. There's there's been a there's been a lot of lot a lot of lot of Germans, literally everyone that I ever asked, they all said that they lost somebody in the war, whether it was a mother, father, or aunt, or uncle, or brother, or sister. You know?
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Yeah. I I had a couple German friends, and and they're still you know, I could, and they say time heals all wounds or whatever. But I was telling them how the Germans weren't at fault. And, you know, they were they they were so so sure that wasn't true. You know?
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Yeah. I try to tell him I don't I I I try to tell him it doesn't make any sense. Why why would we it didn't make any sense. Why would we side with Joseph Stalin for god's sake? He was the one that, was rumored to have caused that the Holodorum, in the Ukraine where Yeah. Where all those all the farmers and the small landowners were, you know, systematically
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You know, really dead. Murder.
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Yep. Real easy answers. Churchill was a Jew. Roosevelt was a Jew. Stalin was a Jew. And they were all communist.
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Right. Wow. And that's the thing. I was just thinking, you know, John Moore was on, with John b Wells last week. And and I wasn't I was sort of half listening. I was doing a couple other things and and in the chat room and stuff, but he kept saying communist. Right? This country has been communist since Lincoln.
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Now do you mean Jews in name only, or is that by blood?
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Certainly by blood. There's there's some that try to deny that, but if you dig into it, I mean, Churchill's mother was Jewish. Isn't that the definition? You know?
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I don't know. I I honestly, I Roosevelt's real name was road,
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Rosenfeld.
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Yeah. Rosenfeld or Rosenfeld. I forget one of those two. But yeah. So they were so they were out there changing their names back then because they knew that it would work in being elected.
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Oh, yeah. And Teddy Roosevelt. The same thing. Roosevelt. You know, he was related. And this is the thing you gotta look at is the bloodlines. You know, like right now, you can find where Trump's talking to a gaggle of reporters on on, Air Force One and, about buying Argentine beef because they're dying. You don't understand. He's like, I like the leader. Alright. Well, the leader is Javier Millet, whose real name is Milakowski, the same as Netanyahu. And the grandfather, Netanyahu's grandfather, Javier looks very much like him. Oh, and Javier had a nose job too.
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No. He did. What what he had probably had a hooked nose or something, Yes. He did. Yes. He did. There's pictures in it. But why?
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Greeks on Demand News, get the English articles. They they've got some really interesting stuff going on.
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Wow. Yeah. That's that's that's yeah. That's now but did didn't it didn't it appear hasn't it been said that how can anybody claim Jewish ancestry when all or supposedly all of the records of, that were being kept on Jewish ancestry were destroyed when the Romans, destroyed the temple in 8070, unless there were records that were,
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saved at, what, Alexandria or Yeah. But that is pretty much true. Yeah. And who destroyed the library at Alexandria? Poinc Faye. That's who. Yeah. All through time. This is the thing. Call them Jews or whatever you wanna call them, but they are the synagogue of Satan.
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You know? Those who call those who call themselves Jews but are not.
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There you go. And the whole word Jews is is a slur, but it's directed at the tribe of Judah. This is the other thing. We've got Benjamin and then the other 10 tribes in the North, and they are considered Gentiles, which just means nations. So good many of us are descended from them, but they are the enemy of that one little group. You know? And it's not that little. They they blend with everybody. They mix.
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The question is is there a Yiddish word for name stealers?
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Probably. I don't know what it is, but probably.
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What did you call it? Name
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Name stealers. Oh, okay. Cliff High likes to say that. Do you think that's his real name? No. He's a Jutu. And he is just oh, he was just so happy about the BC and the BCE nonsense. Right? And, that was few years ago, and that was troubling me. And the Holy Spirit, the breath of holiness gave me this little little thing to think about in my mind of, like, the fifties readers. Right? The little blonde haired boy, and he's trying to fix his little red wagon. Right? He's trying to put the wheel on it. And, Holy Spirit told me, the e stands for Christ eternal.
Not before current era or current era. You know? I mean, who decides this stuff? Well, ultimately, god does. Right? So, anyway, I was told it meant Christ eternal, so that's what I use. And he said that'll fix their little red wagon, but it what I was being shown was w a g g I n and being shown a split tongue. So anyhow, Christ eternal. But, the the thing with, Chris, Cliff High going back in 02/2008, and there was these things that went on with the altars out there on Jekyll Island and stuff. And, so that wasn't entirely their choice. You know? They tried to use the crisis, I'm sure. But, that whole, that whole monetary thing, I don't think I think that was brought down from above.
And, yeah. So, anyway, wherever I was going with that What's the what's
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the what's the contentious right now with with, the the listening audience out there on the, pressure to trump some fight against the, the banks and all that kind of stuff because it it kinda some of the stuff that I've been seeing on on YouTube and stuff It's kinda questionable unless, he's trying to, you know, get everybody on the same sheet of music and, hopefully, headed back to the du jour American, American way, so to say, of, of our our our former government government style that we've lost in, before the It's been rotten from the beginning.
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It's been rotten from the beginning. Get michaelgaddy.substack.com and get into what he's been digging into for decades, over four, close to five, I guess, now since he was, came out of no such agency and all the wiser for it. And, and you see there again, it's a spiritual thing. It's Christ or Antichrist. But, yeah, all the different things going on and he recognizes the psyop. But you have to also recognize that there's different fractions with different agendas. So it doesn't move along at an even pace in one direction. You know what I mean? It's, yeah, pretty interesting.
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Yeah. There was this, I can't remember what his name is, but, I keep on seeing his, his posts. He was a former, member of the a you know, the alphabet soup agency, and, apparently, he had passed away here a couple years ago of COVID. He was kinda overweight kinda guy, but, man, he was really he was really laying it down on, you know, what the, what the agenda is of Israel and how they're actually, you know, calling the shots,
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you know, via the You talked about Robert David Steele, perhaps?
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Is yeah. He he He did chubby cheeks. Yeah. Chubby cheeks, heavy set, mild you know? Yeah. Did he really die?
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Yeah. I think he did. I think they killed him. It's it's a good one.
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You know, with the I was thinking when when I was watching that stuff years ago, I'm like, oh my gosh, man. Dude, you better, you gotta be yeah. You you better be, in a place where they can't, you know, get to you. So, they sounds like they did get to him. But, yeah, he somebody's still releasing all of his his stuff that he used to say. I don't remember ever, watching him speaking so intensely about, you know, how our our government was literally taken over years ago.
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Like I said, it was from the beginning. This is what you have to understand. The constitution itself was illegal. It was a fraud. It was a coup. The law of the land was the articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, and the delegates were sent to Philadelphia to find ways to improve them. But there was a core group. The whole reason they were doing it was to overthrow it and get close to a monarchy, but with them in those monarchical positions.
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You mean So was
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so wasn't there so I, when I was listening to Derek Johnson's stuff, which was kind of intriguing, he he he brushed over it. But because he brought it up and I've never heard anybody, mention Marbury versus Madison. And he he was trying to I mean, it sounded like the justification for president Trump and the military doing what they're doing is that we're we're claiming and we're taking back everything that was taking taken from the original intent of the, the the, what do you call it, continental army, back when they were fighting against the British. And and, basically, he's saying that, yeah, we were infiltrated. And, that's why we're using their their tyranny and their rules and laws that have been implemented, you know, for probably since the creation of the the nation, back to get to the de jure state of he mentioned the declaration of independence more than I think he did the constitution.
But, that's what was kind of intriguing about what he was saying. He's saying we're using all these military. We're using because of the continuity of government.
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We, Laws laws and orders. Yeah. He's got it down pretty good, but I think he he probably so many people go back as if the constitution is the bedrock law. Well, neither it or the articles are. The bedrock law is the 10 commandments. And you hear Brent Winters today saying about safeguarding them, keeping them safe. Well, you know, I didn't wanna tune in, but how about the fourth one? I've talked to him about that one. He's, you know, him hauls around the edges about what's going on there, but very clearly said, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. And Glenn Ambort, you know, he's very brilliant guy. And he's like, wait a minute. That's the only one that says remember. And, you know, so, and it turns out we have this circus septum. Just like we have circadian rhythm day and night, we have this seventh day, the Sabbath, not any day, the seventh day as the day of rest. And that's in us, and it's in many other creatures.
You know? Samuel sent me the thing about the beavers, and I put some of that on air. And, but it's just another fascinating thing to find out about, you know, and that I think when I'm shown these things to learn about that, I need to share them on air, and you'll have people pushing back about all different stuff. But at least I'm getting it out there. This is what I think I need to do.
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And, so what's so the justification of Sunday being the first day of the week. Correct? And I, you know, I remember hearing songs in church about the first day of the week and
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Right. But see, in in the in the Bible, they they took, like, six they took, like, six times where it says Shabbat out of the 98 and arbitrarily put in first day of the week. And so it was over time, they slid this in and they have resurrection day and three days and three nights, he was in the tomb. Well, that's not true either. And he told us. He said, the only example I'll give you is Jonah. Jonah was alive inside the whale, inside the belly of the beast. And, so the three days started with Judas, you know, playing Judas, and that was earlier in the week. And you get the three the three full days, and then he's only in there a few hours. Christ's only in the tomb a few hours, and you have that the, shroud of turn to to to basically back up, you know, and blasted out of there
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quite literally. Think the shroud of turn is legit?
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It seems to be because, the amount of energy and the short amount of time that it was used is, you know, we can't do that. I mean, we can bare barely figure out what was done and how much time it took, you know, which was like a forty billionth of a second, right, with more,
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Sure. Okay. I I I got you. I I I can believe it. Okay?
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Yeah. But it's Sabbath. He wouldn't he wouldn't have resurrected on Sunday. It's the holy Sabbath. He was only in there a few hours, and he resurrected on Sabbath. See, this is
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you know, this is So what day did he get put what day did he get put in in the
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Friday night. Friday after they killed him, you know, after he died. Friday night. Okay. Yeah. So early Sabbath morning is is when he, he was only in there a few hours, you know, not three days. You know, that's why he gave that example, that one and only example of Jonah because he was alive. And Christ was virtually in the belly of the beast where they were torturing him and stuff. You hear Michael Gaddy talk about being in the belly of the beast working for no such agency. Right? So it's a little hard to
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Wasn't wasn't Jesus one after he was after he died, supposedly, he went down to the gates of hell and opened up the he had the key, and he opened up the gates of hell. And he ministered to the people who had, died before he had come along, but were believers under the old law.
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And Yeah. And and, you know, that's, very well could be probably true, but in what kind of dimension, what kind of time space would that take place? It doesn't have to take place over our three days. Right? You know? So, you know, could be extraneous. Another time warp type thing. You know, we don't know. It's when when you're all powerful and know everything and are present everywhere all the time.
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And then that's more than plenary authority. Yeah. I remember it was either a Tuesday or Wednesday. I went to some church celebration of, you know, the I I I wanna say it was Easter. And, but it was on a it was either a Tuesday night or a Wednesday night. I can't remember. But when I thought about it, I'm like, maybe that would validate that some people out there think that, well, the three days would have, you know, made him, you know, validate the Saturday. But we but you're saying it was it, it doesn't have to be literally three days. He could have been,
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killed on that Friday. The three days started earlier. The three days started when Judas went and, you know, made the arrangements with the parasites.
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Yeah. Palm what was it? Palm sun? Didn't Palm Sunday have something to do with this also? Palm Sunday.
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Well, that's where Palm Sunday comes from. They threw down all these palms for him to ride, and he told them where to go find the the, donkey pole and, for him to ride on. So he rode triumphantly into, Jerusalem on this, donkey, and they were throwing down their coats and palm branches. And, yes, so that's where that comes from. But, just before that, I guess it was I don't think it was after, is when he cleansed the temple for the second time. You know, we're always told there's just one time, but John, second chapter, was the first time right after his first miracle. And, I was gonna bring that up, but I thought, you know, we had enough stuff on the plate today. So but, and then in Mark 11, you read where, you know, just a few days before he was crucified, he did it again.
You know, that's why they really hated him. Don't mess with that mammon. They basically chased God out of his own temple. I mean, not really. He left anyway, but, they made it a den of thieves. And that was the, the scripture, points that my daddy sent me where it says den of thieves. Yeah. But it only says about him actually chasing them out twice. Not every time it says den of thieves. So but I heard Jay Vernon McGee in a in a sermon from back in the seventies that was playing. He said that and then I'm like, wait a minute. I read that. I didn't get that. You know, it's when you're just reading the Bible, it's, you know, But you pinpoint the timeline, and sure enough, he did it twice.
At least twice that's recorded. Maybe did it more. So go get our b n's t shirt. No Israel without Jesus. Yeah. You've got a picture.
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Get RBN's T shirt?
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Yeah. They have a T shirt. And, I I I had I I had
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I have an RBN T shirt around here somewhere that's probably
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the mice have probably already gotten to. But, Probably probably red, white, and blue or something. Right? I think they had their logo on it or something originally.
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Well, it this was a white this was a white shirt that I got from RBN back Right. Oh, gosh. Seven seventeen years ago, maybe?
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Yeah. Robert Raybel went you know, he was a host there at the RVN, and he came up with the idea and what to say on it. And then Sam, the producer, found a, you know, pictograph type thing that shows Jesus Christ turning over the tables. He didn't look like any weakling there. He's not very effeminate.
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Yeah. This all this this was I got this one. John Stattmiller was still you know, you could call and talk with John Stattmiller on them.
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Yeah. But, This one's this one's, 65 or more, so donation, and you can get one. You tell them your size and where you want it sent and all that stuff. But it has no and then oh, in the know, it has, that star of rim fan with a red, you know, cross crossing it out or a red just line crossing it out rather, my band. No Israel, and they're like three inch letters, I guess, or so. And then the picture and then below is couple inch letters without Jesus. No Israel without Jesus. And then below, like, maybe inch high, it says republicbroadcasting.org.
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It's on a black shirt. Yeah. Yeah. I don't you know, I honestly honestly, I haven't listened to RBN since I found, Roger. Uh-huh. Because because, I heard Roger back in I wanna say it was, like, 2012. Mhmm. On, he was on with, oh, the the, the guy that, the Vietnam Veteran that, had his own gold, I guess he sold he had his own precious metals company, I guess. You know what I'm talking about. Right?
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Jeff Bennett. And he was on RBM.
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He's still there. Still is. I don't listen to that, but, you know yeah. He's there Tuesday through Thursday. Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday in that slot four to 6PM central.
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And what about what about our, USS Liberty, Phil Tierney? Is he still around?
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He's around. In fact, he and Mike just did a podcast the other day, and I believe he's gonna release it today. Isn't that right, Brent, in what he said? I think.
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Not sure.
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But
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But if you just put Phil Tierney in YouTube, you'll probably see it might be posted there. He has Phil Tierney, the Phil Tierney podcast or at Phil Tierney podcast on YouTube. But if you just put Phil Tierney in, t o u r n e y, y, you'll see Adam was checked today. He apparently started it, like, a month ago.
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There was a guy that there was a guy that was, on, what was he I can't remember what his name was. But, apparently, he wrote a he he wrote a book about the the definition of terms and and, semantics, basically, And he would really tear down words and stuff like that on, RBN, but I haven't heard him. I think he just kinda walked away, from broadcasting. But he was, at the time, he was doing the broadcast, and he was down in Florida somewhere. And, yeah, I think I think he had gone through a divorce earlier, and he he was always he was always talking about, you know, sarcastically about, I don't know, relationships and stuff like that.
But, yeah, apparently, he'd written a really, really deep condensed book on word definitions. Does anybody remember who that was?
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Brent might. Yep. I know. We'll do a sense of humor. Yeah. Semantics. Brent might remember. I don't I don't really. I haven't been around as long as Sprint.
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I actually have a I have a recording that, that he pops up. I just can't remember his name. Might even have been suit a pseudonym for all we know because, you know, he use use your, you know, like George Orwell, for example. You know?
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He didn't use his real yeah. Yeah. I think it was Eric Arthur Blair. Right?
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Yeah. See? You, you remember that stuff. So, yeah, he, yeah, he he had some he had some good stuff, and he he cracked jokes and stuff like that on on air. He was a really funny guy. He went away. He he was, I don't know, like, back in, I don't know, 2015. It went away for a while, then he came back, and, I think he might have got discouraged. Maybe he didn't have enough listeners or something, or he just maybe nobody bought his book or but it sounded like he'd he'd written an unabridged something unan unabridged about the, English language.
I wanna say Starseed, or some kind of Starseed that they had on there for a while, broadcast, but I thought he was kind of part of that. I'll find out what his name is and ask if anybody, at RBN knows what happened to him. Now RBN lost, apparently, and I I hope they found him, Ralph's old, old archives. Some of them re were recovered, but I don't know if all of them were recovered because I remember, Ralph Winter Road back in I've got recordings of them back in, I think, 02/2008, 02/2010. But, apparently, a lot of those a lot of the archives got, I don't know, stolen or wiped away or whatever.
And that's why I'm kinda I'm kinda curious on the events on how, Ralph died. I mean, he sounded like he was in good good health or shape. You know? But I do remember him coughing and stuff, and he said he had a, you know, he had the flu or whatever. And then it seemed like, not too long after that, you know, he it was announced that, he had passed away, and Roger had taken his, you know, over his position. So, yeah, I'm I'm just also curious if, you know, Ralph had any, r if any archives were found of Ralph's stuff way back in the when he first came on to RBN.
And he he always used to say, hey. Look. You know? You know, we're we're we're ignorant and stupid, but we're learning. So that's what that's what cracked me up I it cracked me up about it because I I thought to myself, oh my god. Anybody who's trying to dig through dig through all that minutiae of the federal register deserves a a little bit of attention because it was it was it was just you look at that stuff, and it it for me, it it just makes me go it makes my eyes go cross eyed. I feel like I got, you know, hit upside the head or something trying to read and interpret that stuff. And and I might even have told him. I'm like, hell. When I read this stuff, I don't know whether to after I read it, I don't know whether I'm supposed to turn left or turn right after reading all this stuff in the damn federal register.
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It was deliberately done that way, and it's written at the thirty second and thirty third grade level.
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Thirty second and thirty third grade level?
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Yes.
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Well, to me, it's to me, it just sounds like a damn shell game. You know? But, I've I've spent I've spent many, many years sending out to anybody that would listen, you know, over YouTube or whatever. I get out on these sites, you know, to look into that Administrative Procedures Act in 1946. And, Ralph would always say, lawyers can't go there. If they've if they wanted if they've got family and they wanna feed their family, they're not allowed to go into the Administrative Procedures Act because they're gonna get shut down, and they're gonna lose their livelihood, or they might even lose their lives.
So that's why, people that are not lawyers, that are not members of the, quote, bar, are able to be able to, should I how should I say it, infiltrate or, you know, seek out this information, and use what Ralph seemed to say is, like, use their stuff against them. It's their stuff. We just have to we just have to find out, how to use it against them. And that's why Ralph is always digging into the I I got recordings here of him calling the, Annie Bunk at the Federal Register. There's only two there's only two attorneys at the Federal Register. And she said it's, it's the age it's up to the agencies to police themselves on whether they're in compliance with the Federal Register or the Administrative Procedures Act.
But Ralph would always emphasize that, we are being ruled by legal notice in the federal register at title 28, section twenty seventy two. And when I looked at that in in small print, basically, it was referring to the Supreme Court, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong because of, you know, like I said, you're interpreting this stuff. You don't know whether to turn left or right makes you go to sleep. But it talked about subs the substantive or substantive rule, however you wanna say it. And Ralph was always emphasizing that I cannot find any any agencies that have have put out substantatives of, rules on on what they're what these agencies are supposed to be, be out there saying that they've got authorization to do.
And Ralph was just always emphasizing, look. I've come up to the conclusion. He said he said the IRS is done. They're they're dead in the water because they have not been properly publishing notice and comment in the federal register at title five US code five five three little b, c, and d. And we're supposed to and and he would say this, you know, sarcastically, like, yeah. We're supposed to dig into the look and see what the federal register is doing daily daily, to find out, you know, whether they can or cannot do this stuff. But what that b, c, and d is saying that, they're, they are supposed to properly, like, in the military, they used to say the drill sergeant used to say, buy the numbers.
You know? And he'd break down an m 16, rifle, and you had to do it by the numbers. Or when you're in drilling ceremony, by the numbers. So he he was he was into that. And, you know, when I heard him, I tried to ask him, you know, by the numbers, you know, break it down. So it is easily understandable or hopefully. And, I think towards the end of his life, he'd he'd come up with, one CFR at 2143 where these agencies, whenever they do any type of changes to their, quote, rules, they're supposed to publish behind the table of contents, the changes.
And he's saying and even asked Amy Bunk, you know, these these agencies aren't doing it. And, what's our remedy? And Amy Bunk said, well, either the the the people out there, they have to sue the courts or congress, if it's brought to their attention that they haven't, filed, notice and comment, and did the procedures by the numbers properly, it can be, what do you call it, vacated? I guess that's the well, that's the word she used, vacated. So I guess that means what? Just walk away or drop it? But that's what that's what she said. I've got that on I got that on tape.
But Ralph Ralph is like, it's basically what it is. It's it's left up to we, the people, to hold these agencies accountable. And we have we have to go behind them and tell Congress. We have to tell on these agencies. We have to tell our representatives and tell them that, these agencies aren't following their own, you know, their own system that FDR had literally said in a booklet in '19 published in 1937, a pan some kind of a pamphlet. And he said that we have created, if I might say or add, a fourth branch of government, administrative and in scope to, I guess, regulate the, the different, huge agencies that had come out of the abyss of hell is what Ralph would say when the federal register stood up and quote social security to regulate the railroads, the, what what's the the dam construction stuff that's going on or had been going on in in Tennessee and Alabama, you know, for the all the different programs and stuff that the VA.
TVA. Thank you. And the new deal, you know, the new deal stuff. So They're all be over. Yeah. I agree. And I I get it. I I, you know, I've I filed my affidavit, you know, after after Ralph had passed and Roger came back into the you know, onto the scene. I immediately filed my my affidavit after, you know, Roger came back. And, I I really do believe, though, that because of all the effort that Ralph had put into digging, you know, digging or going into the rabbit holes and stuff, trying to find out, figure out what the heck was really going on. It sounded like to me that at least what he had accomplished and figured out with the title five, the little b, c, and d, five five three, little b, c, and d, and one CFR twenty one forty three, and he he would always talk about Chrysler versus Brown, that it's important to at least let the the American public or people out there that might have an ear to hear or people that are within the government, a means of also holding, holding Congress and the agencies, quote, accountable by saying that they're not following that at that and this a lawyer said this.
He said this after I brought it to a group's attention that it was a nineteen forties I think he said 1947 obscure law, about about the agencies. And, but when he made that when he said obscure, it almost sounded like to me it was of not in not important. But then this guy was a lawyer too. So when he said that, I thought to myself, well, remember Ralph was saying that the lawyers can't go there because they will they will be squashed. They'll be they'll lose their livelihood with because they're bar card holders. So I think then I think to have those, and I think you Ralph even said this, put that in your put these things in your quiver as, you know, when you're out there doing battle, against these agencies because that was a Frankenstein monster that that the, you know, the the left or the communist had created when they infiltrated our government, but they left they always have to leave an escape route, and that escape route was the APA.
And if that's brought to congress's attention, Because when you think about it, all the people that approved the, APA back in 1946, they've all done passed away. And that information, I don't think, has been rolled down to, you know, other generations, whether it be in the law, like like Roger is saying that, you know, the having a, law class on the definition of, what? Trying to think of the, the word, person or or as, Clinton would say, is is. And Clint I think Clint was the guy's name, that had this show, back a few years ago. If anybody's out there still listening.
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Lynn Richardson.
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Richardson. There you go. What whatever became of him. I think I called RBN after I I didn't hear him anymore, and nobody knew.
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He just he just People get people get burned out, and, and and there's also a lot of people that wanna have a show here lately, apparently. So only so many hours.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, as I say, when Roger came on, back, you know, from years of being gone because he just disappeared too. I'm like, wow. You know? And that was back during the same time frame of, another guy that had written that book. They own it all including you. And, I bought a couple of those books. I got Roger's book. And, but it it since that was
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That was Ron McDonald and Robert Bowen that did that book. And it's a good book. But like Andy Hitchcock points out, what's with these patriots? They always go back to thinking you're gonna have the gold standard to fall back on. Journey didn't do that. It's labor. Labor is really the only value. And Jews know that.
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So so are are you saying that that, well, do you think that do you think that we're gonna, I personally get the impression, I could be wrong, that president Trump is going to try to bring us back to a gold and silver standard. And on top of that, somehow implement certain certain coins that are on the blockchain that can be, you know, be accountable. So, so is do you see it that way, or or do you think they're like Julie was saying, it's a it's all a trick and a trap to take away everybody's everybody's property, you will own nothing and be happy.
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I'll keep pushing the wrong button. Who knows? You know, we'll see. That's that's the most we can get. But, you know, that's what they'd like to do. Maybe why do they call us property and make us pay property tax on land that we supposedly own?
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Oh, yeah. I I agree. I I wholeheartedly agree. And back around 2012, I saw so I don't know who stood this site up. I might have a I might have tried to print a the front page of it, but somebody had created a beautiful, web page about a lodial title. And I remember it was a black, background with a blue and blue and maybe, white or yellow in inscription. But, yeah, that thing, later on, I tried to tried to go back to it, and it it had disappeared kinda like copper cards. Do you ever remember copper cards?
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Let me say this. For all your studying and everything, the paperwork angle and, legislative and all that crap, voting. None of that crap is going to work. We need to be getting ready to fight these bastards tooth and nail. That's all they understand, and that's what they're going to do.
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Brent, are you talking about on a are you talking about literally, physically?
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I didn't say anything else.
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Okay.
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Yeah. You better be storing up your beans, bullets, and band aids and everything attached to it. Have other places to put it. You know, you know, put all your eggs in one basket, and you get ready to take these bastards out because they will take you out. Their goal ultimately is to kill us,
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period. So do you so, Brent, do you think the, so what's your impression what's your impression of what's going on in, what, Portland and Chicago sending in the,
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you know, the alphabet soup agencies to It's the it's the period of escalating violence. You've heard Roger talk about the Communist Party or the nineteen twenty nine third Communist Internationale working papers, haven't you?
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Maybe briefly.
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Well, instead of all that, APA minutiae, I'd ahead my nose in that because that is what they are doing.
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And who do you think is behind the
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The goddamn Jews and communists. Oh. And and and demon worshipers. Real easy. It's in the book.
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Damn. Well, and how about our affidavits?
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Eventually, those will not be recognized. But for right now right now, they hold water. Oh. But you have all these other knuckleheads out there. Oh, I have to fill out a book of crap to go and be free. Really? Okay. Knock yourself out, hero. And then all that other time's gonna you know, that they need to go and prep their houses. You know, that's our first priority, you know, other than, you know, worshiping our creator is our household. You know? You gotta be able to feed, clothe, house. Yep.
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Well, I'm sure you're incident. The what incident?
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Even after the incidents. You know, the craft that they're going to do to get us along to their new world order when they when they when they start goose stepping.
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I would. I would. Yeah. I'm I'm in hopes that that, our president is, trying to war you know, take out this new world order.
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If, well, he's a part of it. If you're looking for Superman or a hero, you go and look in that bathroom mirror, that's who your hero is going to be if you choose to be it. And that goes with everybody else. Nobody is your hero but you.
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Yep. Oh, so am I seeing a am I seeing a chemtrail? I haven't seen one of those in a while, but it looks like I'm seeing one right now.
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There's some, I think he's a FDA guy or something. He was talking about chemtrails and that he's bringing it to light. I had some other, link about it.
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Yeah. They've been talking they I I have seen clips of them talking about it in, Congress. I wanna say Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I think she might have mentioned it here couple months back. And, I will say this. I mean, for when I first got back to The States, I was like, what? For years, I would watch them turn beautiful blue skies, just milky white. And,
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Oh, but you were crazy for mentioning it.
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And I I I mean, I called someone,
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and they think you were crazy. Oh, I don't see any of that. Just compensation.
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That's just compensation.
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The compensation dissipates like you hold your fingers up. You know, it's only a, like, a inch or so, which would be maybe a quarter mile behind the plane. And I remember seeing that in the sixties when I was little.
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Yep.
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You know, I didn't have anything billowing out of planes and stuff, like, in the nineties.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know how it was here in the in the nineties, but I never saw any of that stuff in Europe. And, but not until I got back to The States. Like, literally, I'm like, oh my god. What the heck is this stuff? That is not condensation. I used to call the I used to call the TV stations and ask the weather people to go outside and take a look up and, you know, say, tell me, is that is that condensation? I don't think that's condensation. There's something up. They're turning beautiful.
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You have rocks in your head, sir, and we're going to have a SWAT team come over to enforce that.
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Oh, yeah. Well, they they did one time. Not not here at work.
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They swatted you?
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I got heck. I had a damn f I had everybody. Where I worked where I worked. Yeah. They shut down the whole damn they shut down the main the main road that went on to the, arsenal where I work all because they, you know, suspected me of, being a I don't know what the hell they they thought I was I don't know. I guess they were trying to think I was gonna try to do brings harm or something.
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Oh, bringing truth? You were a reality theorist.
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Yeah. It was it was, it was crazy, the helicopter and bomb squad and a robot, you know, going into my vehicle. It it was kinda funny too because I'm sitting in the back of a I'm sitting in the back of a a squad car looking over my shoulder, and I'm like, damn. I've been looking for that bag for for quite a few months now. If she was going across the street with this bag that I had, you know, it's just basically survival, equipment, but I couldn't find it. And, yeah, they were they were suspect they used to have suspected me of having a, I don't know, a weapon of of weapon because there was ammunition in the, in the vehicle.
So, yeah. But I'm I'm glad they I'm glad they found my bag. But, yeah, that that turned out to be kind of a I don't know. I guess I I guess I had a angel run by my side or some. So I would I even I even had some of the some of these police, you know, people, tell me later, they said, hey. You know? Look. I you know? We're we're fall you know? It's basically the same thing. We we agree with you. We're we're just, you know, we're just following orders from higher. You know? And I thought to myself, well, thank goodness they, you know, they never rough they never roughened me up or anything.
But, yeah, that golly, that's been that's fifteen years ago.
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Who was the one that ratted you out?
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I'm I'm sure you're I'm sure you've run into them. Some I I think I think somebody at work. Somebody at work.
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Yeah. And you probably talked to them every day. Did you notice did you notice the guilt on their face?
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No.
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Because No. There there was a telltale sign that they did it. Was there someone that quit talking to you?
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Not that I know of. I think I I think I know who who who was behind it.
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Mhmm.
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But, I don't know. It's really When the
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when the event comes around, their life needs to be a living hell.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that I'm sure I don't know. It's a hopefully, people hope hopefully, people in the last fifteen years have started to wake up even more to all this crazy stuff that's going on. And since the pandemic of them are
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I find most of them are deeper into their cranial rectal inversion.
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Oh my god. And so so the so they got worse.
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Yeah. If we if we're gonna be talking about such things, I think I should probably take the streams down because I don't know about cranial rectal inversions. Don't know. Anyways
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very clean with that.
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Yes. Think about that. This is really did it. Yes. This has been the radio ranch with Roger Sales and his Friday cohost Brent Allen Winters. For more information, go to the matrixdocs.com. You can find links to our live streams, our free conference call rooms so you can also join titillating conversations like cranial rectal inversion therapy and all that happy stuff. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Tomorrow, Sabado edition, 11AM eastern, right here on the Raneo Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Alrighty. As would we as would we, Alvin. Alvin, thank you very much for introducing us again here at the Radio Ranch. It, of course, is the Friday edition. When I have a, gentleman, a notorious gentleman named Brent Winters, on with us, and he is here early today, believe it or not. It is the, date stamp October 24. We've got just a few days left till the devil's night. It's not far away. And then immediately after the devil's night of this year comes the November 1 cutoff of all the SnapCard benefits. There's 45,000,000 people in the country Wow.
In SnapCard benefits. And I some of it are outrageous. I saw a clip of this guy. He says, I've got five children. What do you expect me to do? Go out and work? I wanna be with my children.
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Mhmm.
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Okay. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, no problem here, man. Here's another thousand. Anyway, that's what's going on. It's crazy, crazy in the world and in our country. We're, well, we might discuss that today. We might not. You never know with Brent. We just kinda turn him loose and see where we go. So, anyway, we're on a number of other, platforms that extend our reach, and we wanna be sure and identify them and give them proper credit. Don't we, Paul?
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Yes. We do. Yes. We do. We're on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James and his diligent efforts. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul English. Had a great show yesterday, Paul English live. You gotta catch that archive if you can. If you didn't if you didn't tune in to the live show, the archive is gonna be just as good. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network, radio.globalvoiceradio.net. We're on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. The rumble stream is actually the only one that started properly today because the, the actual Eurofoc and global voice stream started about thirty seconds late.
Oh, goody. Our website is thematrixstocks.com, and that is where you'll find the free conference call links, which are also working beautifully. You know, basically oh, well. It's six of one and a half, a dozen of the other. Good morning, Roger. I think I'm gonna go soak my head.
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Okay. No problem. Don't run off just yet. Hey, Brent. I saw your your your moniker up there. Let me ask you a question, Paul. You, you smoke. Right?
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Yes. I do.
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Now are you vaping at all, or are you just smoking? I hear you click that big, that Zippo every now and then.
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Yeah. Yeah. I I use Zippo, and I smoke a seventy thirty blend of Mullen and tobacco. Mullen? Natural tobacco. Yeah. Mullen.
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What's Mullen?
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I thought it was Mullen. It's it's spelled Moline. It is, like, like, mullein tea, like, clears out the lungs and things like that. And Uh-huh. Okay. Some people smoke it. Some people, use it to make tinctures, teas, whatever. I buy it a pound at a time and Mhmm.
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And blend It's what I do. Uh-huh. Well, you know, if you were in a tobacco shop, you'd have to be, licensed to do that. But, you know, you have to be licensed by the federal government to blend tobacco now? That's true. I mean, that's true. I'm I'm sorry to tell you. It's true. Back when I used to smoke, the tobacco place I bought my tobacco was telling me that. So let's see. So do you know any you don't vape, though. Right? No. Absolutely not. Well, there's a huge crisis in The US. I say it's not as big as some of the other ones. But dealing with these vapes now I really don't know too much about it. I've got occasionally, I'll be around somebody that does that.
I I have never probably don't plan on it. But what has happened was they drug their feet regulatorily during the Biden administration. I'm sure you that's not a big surprise to you. They were dragging their feet, and they didn't okay the American manufacturers of vapes. So, you know, nature abhors a vacuum. You know that deal. And so the Chinese have loaded in millions of dollars of this poisonous vape. It's not poisonous. Very addictive. It's got all kinds of things in there. They don't even know what's in there, THC and other stuff.
And then they flooded the shops that sell regular vaping stuff, and it's really, being detrimental to children and stuff. They they busted he said in Chicago. I just saw a guy being interviewed on it. They busted in South Side Of Chicago, a warehouse with $250,000,000 worth of those things. So anyway, if you're a vapor, and I don't know that any of our audience is, but if you know somebody that might be, you ought to tell them about this. It was on the the last segment of the second hour of Brianna this morning. Had the head guy from federal government and talking about the bust and why. So, anyways, just on my mind. So I wanted to bring that out this morning for any of you who may be affected, hope not, and some of the people you may know in your in your circles.
Anyway, good morning, Brent. Good morning, Brent.
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I know you don't vape. If I could do one more thing before before we let Brent in here. He's gonna affirm my statement, I think. Go ahead. Right. Well, the vape products, they actually damage the lung tissue. They create, like, a crystal in lung and, reduce the the lung's ability to function. It's, it it's just very bad, but that's not the only bad thing that there is. There is, a, it's like an energy drink or it's it's sold as an energy drink. It's called Feel Free, and it's got, like, this beautiful blue package and they put it up at the counter. It's an impulse buy thing. They they put it right next to the five hour energy and the Red Bull and all
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that. And Red Bull gives you wings.
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Yeah. It gives you wings, sends you to Jesus early.
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Fly you to heaven
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It's loaded with nonstop. It's loaded with caffeine and it's highly acidic and an acidic body is a sick body. But anyway, getting back to this this other feel free product, it is loaded with Kraton, k r a t o n, which is absolutely off the charts addictive. And Oh, fuck. Kids can go into convenience stores and buy this stuff. And buy this stuff. There's no regulation on it and what some of the, some of the clerks and stuff in the convenience stores are saying is that they've got twelve, thirteen, 15, 16 year old kids coming in there numerous times a day to buy this stuff. And if they don't have the money to buy it, they'll actually hang out in the parking lot trying to get other people to buy it for them because they can't afford it.
It is so
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Our poor country. Yeah. I bet you don't vape, do you, Brent?
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No. I don't know nothing about it. I got a lot of Only when he's in the hog barn. Yeah. Yeah. I got plenty of tobacco stories, though. I bet you do. Now if I've told them, bear with me if you've heard them, but I read I think I've got it on good evidence this really happened. I tried to follow-up on it, but when Abe Lincoln was a congressman, which was a very short period of time, he was one of the few men that stood up against the against the Mexican war because he said, obviously, it was a land grab and and that, it was on ev well, it was on evidence that didn't exist that the Mexican army had invaded Texas.
But, any rate, they went ahead with it, and then they, of course, they threw him out. He didn't last long there. And, he was coming back home, and at that time, there weren't railroads hadn't really hadn't really got a good start, and so he had to take the coach. And he instead of going down the Ohio River to come home, which a lot of people did, they'd take a steam small steamboat called a packet. He took the stage, and he got paid for mileage course like congressmen do today. However many miles it is back to your home, you get paid for going back and forth by the mile. Well, he took the stage to Indianapolis, Indiana.
And when he got to Indianapolis, he changed coaches to get over on over to Illinois, which meant he had to go down to Terre Haute, Indiana. So he rode the stage, got on. Another fella got on with him, and they're sitting in the stage and rocking along down the Cumberland Road, which was the main thoroughfare through the center of America at that time, the first federally funded highway. Of course, it wasn't gravel. It was just dirt, but it was a had bridges and it was cleared off and all. And he got in with Lincoln, and, they hadn't gone very far. And he got out his snuff box and and, took a shot of snuff and offered a shot to Lincoln.
And Lincoln said, I I don't do snuff. Oh, he said, okay. And then they went another hour or so, and he got out a cigar and lit it up and asked Abe if he wanted one. And Lincoln said, no. I don't I don't smoke tobacco. No. Okay. So another hour or two went by. Now if you drive from Indianapolis to Terre Haute today, it's just short of 90 mile. It doesn't take long. And the Cumberland Road, is called Interstate 70 now. Comes clear from the Cumberland Gap and clear clear the well, it runs clear out into Colorado now. Well, any rate, he at that time, it went as far as Saint Louis. Well, that time, he got, a little bit further, and he pulls a flask out of his pocket and takes a snort of whiskey.
And he he offered Lincoln a snort, and Lincoln said, no. I don't I don't drink whiskey. And he said, oh, okay. So he put it back in his pocket. And when they got to Terre Haute, nobody said much on the trip. And he got out there, and Lincoln was gonna go on a cross because he had to go to Springfield. So he go, through Paris in that way. And, this guy got off the coach and broke the silence, and he's talked to Lincoln as he was getting off and said, young man, he was a young man by comparison, I want you to remember something. He said, what's that?
He said, them what has no vices has very few virtues. Them that has no vices has very few virtues. Now I don't say that to say that's true. I've thought about that for years and I've heard it said, is it true? I do know that everybody's got vices. I know that. Lincoln had his too. But those three vices that were upfront and so objectionable to the female of the species, not to mention, other men. He didn't do that for maybe for political reasons. I don't know, but he didn't for whatever reason. But, Tabakie is the proof to me that the Indian tribes won the war.
They've killed more of us. They've killed more of us with by having introduced us to Tabakie than we ever killed them. What a point. Yeah. And I've watched two of my granddads die of lung cancer that liked to smoke, and it was not a pleasant experience. I'll tell you. And one of them died at 57 or eight right in there. And I knew a friend's father died at 58 smoking, and then the other one died at about 78. And it got so bad by the time we're in the hospital, of course, we had to hold both of them up and hold a cigarette for them. They got some weak they couldn't even hold their cigarettes, and we had to hold them up so they can make take another hit. Of course, we figured at that time, let them relax and let them enjoy what's left of life. You know? Sure. It's too late then. I had another friend. We, farmed his 20 acres, Bruce Bruce Gard. He had a brother by the name of Rex, and both of them had gone to World War one together.
When Bruce got to be older, the doc said you're gonna have to quit smoking. He rolled his own. Back then, I knew a lot of men, probably you did too, Roger, that rolled their own, cigarettes. Mhmm. That was very popular, Bull Durham, and especially Prince Albert. Especially Yeah. Because then you could enjoy a pipe or a cigarette. It was for both, you know. Yeah. Prince Albert in the can. You had that little one you could put in your about the size of a whiskey flask. You'd put in your shirt pocket, that little tin. Well, the doc said you gotta quit. So to make his wife happy, he quit.
And then he was sitting on the porch one time talking to me. He come over to see dad. I was pretty near grown then. And I said, how you doing, Bruce? He could tell a lot of stories. One of those kind of fellows. I like to talk to him. And he'd start talking to me, and then he'd stop and he'd say, well, I know what word, or I know there's a word I'm supposed to say here, but I I can't think what it is. I said, why not? He said, well, I'm not sure. But he said, I think it's because I quit smoking. He said, my body had gotten so used to tobacco all these years that, I think quitting it actually has hurt me more than helping at this point.
And, he never went back to smoking and then he lost he got Alzheimer's and passed away. Peach of a fella. But it was part of our culture, Roger. You know that, and I know that, and Paul knows that. We grew up at a time when men smoked. That's what men did. Mhmm. And women. And I don't remember hardly ever going into a room that somebody wasn't smoking, if not many. That's the way life was. I just took it in stride. Now my parents go ahead, Roger. There was no no smoking signs anywhere either. Go ahead. No. No. There weren't any. And, my neither of my parents smoked. My father's father smoked Prince Albert.
My mother's father raised Tabakki. And, he told me that what his father did too, they were the ones from the Kentucky side of the family immediately. The other side was too, but another generation back. But immediately, when grandpa, my granddad, who raised Abacky, he said, he store bought cigarettes came out just well, they were well known by World War I, Camels, especially. And I think Chesterfields, of course, they didn't have filters. And my granddad is a 15 year old boy, found the pack. Of course, there was no law against buying it, and he bought him a pack. He wanted to see what they were like. And his father, my great granddad, found out he has he had them in his pocket hanging in the mudroom coming into the house.
And he got them, he took them, and he told my granddad, said, come with me. Where are we going? You just come with me. And they went and set out on the other side of the barn where my grandmother and and his brothers and sisters couldn't see him. They were eight in the family, two girls and six boys, and he was number three. And they sat down and and he said my dad said, let's sit and let down here and lean up against the barn. He got that package of cigarettes out, store bought. And, he said, we're gonna smoke the whole pack. No. And he said, why? He said, you just do what I tell you.
And so they both lit up a cigarette, and he lit one up from my granddad, and they smoked and talked. And then he said, we're gonna do another one. They went through all 20 of them. I think they were 20 just like they are were or have been. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. And he's and he said, my granddad said he got sicker and a foundered mule. Yep. Thick.
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Grease. Grease. Grease.
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Yeah. Yeah. And my great granddad, they everybody called him Lish. His name was Lisha. Elisha. They called him Lish or Lash. And, he said, now I want you to suck us down into your lungs. You know, he'd made him smoke them hard. And he got sick, and he said my dad was smart. He knew that maybe that would cure me, and I wouldn't do it again. And I never have. Never have. Mhmm. Now one more story I could tell if it's of any interest. Of course, they took their tobacco to Lexington every year to sell it. They got one paycheck a year. One paycheck, but it was a big one. And it was the biggest day in Lexington. People think the Kentucky Derby's big. No, no. That ain't the biggest day. Didn't used to be the Excuse to be the biggest day was the annual auction of tobacco in Lexington, Kentucky. And that's where you get the best price. And and men would come with they'd, of course, they'd harvest it, and then they'd hang it to dry, and then they'd tie it into hands and use it. It was a cultural thing that had developed in America, Roger.
They would a hand at the back is whatever you can get your hand around at the stems, holding at the stems. And then you take one leaf, and there was a special way you tied it off with that one leaf. Uh-huh. If it wasn't done that way, they wouldn't sell it. Uh-huh. And the people that made the biggest money were the auctioneers, and that was an unwritten hereditary position, by the way. In other words, you just didn't go in and and put say, well, I'll do it for 10% or I'll no. No. You had to be born into it. That's how that culture had been going on for four hundred years in America, and it got to be well, it it wasn't done anywhere else in the world. See? And America did provide all the tobacco, and it got to be a high art to where there were seven grades on the plant of tobacco. Seven grades. And now there are only three. Nobody much cares about quality anymore. Yeah. But back then, it was a big deal. And they'd they'd take their tobacco down there in the hands on pallets, and every pallet had so many hands. And they'd lay it out in this giant warehouse with acres, tens and twelves, and I don't know, twenty, forty acre warehouse. Huge plate. Yeah. I haven't measured it. But then the major companies would come around and the auction would start.
And when the auction was over and everybody took their tobacco out, no Chesterfield, RJ Reynolds, all those big companies, then and all of them, by the way, are on the skids now. And when I was running for Congress, they got with me. At that time, they were just they were just losing everything. And the representatives of the tobacco company, the lobbyists came to me and said, I mean, they were hang doggy. And they said, Brent, we we're just trying to survive what's coming, you know, because people were quitting smoking then, which was probably a good thing. And of course, the tobacco companies shot themselves in the foot, putting all the chemicals in. The way did they? Oh, it's terrible. Well, anyway, but back then, what they do that started in this well, at least by the sixties, the chemicals were coming.
But they would, get all the tobacco out and then all the off falls and the things that had crumbled and little things that have fallen on the floor of the auction house, a a 100 or so, black men would come with large push brooms and sweep that whole place up of all the off falls tabacky, sweep it up along with the bird manure and the rat manure and anything else and the hog manure people would track in, all those farmers. They would sweep that up into a mountain of a pile, and that was the biggest event of the day. And the auctioneer would auction that pile off for cigarette tobacco.
Trash of the trash of the trash. Oh my God. By the way, cigarette tobacco, and I assume it's still true, is the trash leaf, the bottom leaf. Oh, it's always hot. What's that? Really? I didn't know that. Yeah. Except, of course, like Prince Albert. They got into the middle of the plant, you know, the trash, they call the trash at the bottom, and the red and the burley were at the top. That was for cigars, and then the pipe tobacco and all that at different grades coming up the plant. But, cigarettes never appealed to me for that reason because those are the stories I had always heard and understood, and it's gotten worse since then. Yeah. It will it not only will it kill you without all the chemicals, it will kill you, double fast now. That's made comment. For him. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Go ahead, Joe. I got I got some things to say too. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah.
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Yeah. Just, another line here that I first started smoking using Bull Durham and wheat straw cigarette paper. And I put the bull Durham because it was so powder dry and so fine, you couldn't hardly keep it in the paper. Uh-huh. So I moved up to Prince Albert, and, it was moist enough and long enough cut. You could keep it in the paper pretty easy, and I got to where I could roll it with one hand.
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Yeah. Now at this point, Roger,
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at this point, he's bragging. But if but if it's true, it's not bragging. So
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I I like to hear it. And I could horseback one handed.
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What now they tell me, and they used to say at home, Joe, that if your macons are too dry, that's the way they'd say it, it's hard to roll. And you're saying that's true. Yeah. With Bull Durham, if Makins were too dry. Yeah. It's true with anything. I think you're trying to roll. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, Joe Are you done? You're a roller too. Let me ask both of you a question. You know who invented the cigarette rolling machine?
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No. No.
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But Joe, do you know Yeah. Kevin Roger gave to me because his Raleigh cigarette coupons, he got it from.
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Right. Well, I'm talking about the big machines that do it commercially, you know, invented that. A guy named Duke. He's got a university and a power plant and all kind of stuff named after him over there in Western Eastern North Carolina.
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Uh-huh.
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Mister Duke. Oh, well, that's how he got rich. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well
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well, you know, for me, I'm my my parents both smoked when I was growing up, and I couldn't wait to get into it when I was a kid. You know? Anything I I was gonna get into anything I wasn't supposed to. You know? That's kind of my history. And, so, I started smoking. They finally said, okay. Well, you can. And rather than shame me and say I couldn't and know I'd go off and do it anyway. But then my neighbor in Anchorage when I was, we were living on Elmendorf. His father was a big pipe smoker, and he had about 20 or 30 pipes over there at his house right across the street from us. And I was always really fascinated with them. You know, a pipe smoker will take a pipe and you'll rub it in his hand, you know? And and over a period of time, it really gives that pipe a tremendous amount of character because it's not the way it came. It's been altered through those, through those mechanizations.
And so I got really curious about pipes because of all that, and and I really smoked a pipe most of my life. I did a cigarette. I just didn't like cigarettes. I still don't to this day if I ever have one. I don't anymore. I've quit pretty much totally now, which feel good. You know? But, anyway, that was my history of smoking pipes my whole life, and, I've quit several times. I mean, it's not anything like evidently quitting cigarettes is where you go through all these mechanizations and your body reacts for lack of whatever. But there is one really good thing about tobacco these days, Brent, and I'll bet you don't know what it is. I'm waiting to find out. Right here, what is it? It blocks the receptors that COVID attached to.
If you were a smoker, you didn't get or very, very five percent chance you'd get COVID. And even Fauci in the early days of that came out and made it public they they realized it. Said, what's a real good time to quit smoking? Well, speaking of So we kill you. You know?
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Speaking of Duke, you know, Duke, smoked all his life. I'm talking about John Wayne. Uh-huh. And, then when he was in his fifties, he had to have one of his lungs taken out or would he would've died. So he operated after that with one lung. And he said that he thought, well, I can surely smoke a cigar or a pipe and not inhale. And then he said, I found out I couldn't do that. Because when you smoke a pipe or cigar and don't inhale, you do inhale. And it does, of course,
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enter your membranes of your inside of your mouth and invade your body that way. I inhaled. I'll be right straightforward with you. Yeah. So was some Yeah. Somebody trying to say something there? We're going off on this tobacco conversation this morning.
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Yeah. This is Roy Zaker Jeffrey again. So it's not tobacco that Jeff. Howdy. It's not tobacco that deals with the receptors. It's the actual nicotine that's found in The the nicotine. Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. Well, it's like,
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yes, sir.
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Just Well, tobacco is kinda nicotine, but I get your point. It's not a specific, but they found that out. It blocks those receptors. They're in the back of your brain, and the people that smoke just didn't get COVID except at a very, very low rate. So there you go. There's one positive thing for tobacco now. People are taking now. Oh, hold on a second, Robbie. People are now taking and just going and buying nicotine, like in lozenges and stuff. And they found that it helps a lot of different stuff is my understanding.
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If you see
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they kill parasites.
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Oh, hold it, Dave. But, Jeff, what you got to finish up, Robbie's over there.
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It's the pharmaceutical companies that are making this snuff these days and the nicotine products. So that's not to be trusted either with the other ingredients they're throwing in just like they did with this with the, cigarettes in the past. I
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don't think any of them are to be trusted. I don't as far as you can throw them. Robbie, what do you have, babe? Thanks. Good to hear from you, Jeff. What you got?
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Good morning. I understand they're gonna try to take nicotine off the market, by by 2030 because of that very thing. Thank you. Oh, because it blocks those receptors?
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Yes, sir. Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Now, Dave.
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Okay. Sorry, Rod. So, actually, nicotine cleans those receptors so the body can deal with the the things that, you know, that they're supposed to deal with, those receptors. But, you know, the tobacco is a nightshade plant, and all nightshade plants have are high in nicotine, like red potatoes, you know, tomatoes, peppers, anything with a dark skin is a nightshade. And Yeah. Those that nicotine, it also kills, parasites. The nicotine kills parasites. And that's what the COVID was a parasite and, you know, a biochemical weapon. And the that's why the smokers didn't get COVID because it kills parasites.
You could take a a cigarette and empty it out in the dog's food. And if he's got worms, you know, that after he eats that tobacco, the next day, he poops out and you see the worms. They're wiggling around in a big pile of poop.
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Boy, that's a visual image. Thanks, Dave.
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What is? Of course, it's too. You could feed horses tobacco, and they'd get rid of the worms.
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I hope some of our May I? Our our I hope our listeners weren't in the middle of their breakfast. Yes. Go ahead.
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Well, I was just gonna say you don't have to smoke tobacco. Make it in a liquid form and soak your feet in it.
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Do you do the same thing?
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Absolutely. Well, you have the most porous, your foot is the most porous, the sole of your foot, and it goes straight into your bloodstream.
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There was a a guy in Argentina, you know, where I was out there and lived is one of the biggest grow garlic growing areas in the world. And, this guy had concentrated garlic, and they would do that. He'd bring people and have them put their feet in that garlic concentrate. You could drink it too. But, yeah, he did that. So interesting, Sherry. Good to hear from you. Anything else? Anything else?
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Hold on, Paul. Anything else here?
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Okay. Thank you, Sherry. Now Paul?
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Oh, I just make a point. People people also I knew people that grew tobacco just to feed the horses for that reason this Philip mentioned.
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Oh, it's not warming.
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Yeah. It'll worm them real quick. And, of course, nobody knew why exactly. It isn't. So if you do chew tobacco, you won't have a lot of worms. That's true. I get the point. Of course, if you drink alcoholic, you won't have worms either. I was gonna say, drink plenty of whiskey, you won't eat it. But it depends. But, it may be, more damaging. I would say that probably taking tobacco into your belly, chewing it, it'll rot your teeth out. That's the that's the bad side of it. But, probably, it would be good for you a little bit. I I'm I'm not a doctor, so I'm not licensed to say these things.
I'm just giving my observations of nature, and I don't know what the best thing is, but I do know that horses can be wormed with it as probably other animals.
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Comment?
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like the old guy said, Brent. He said, I'm I'm not a doctor, but I played one as a child. Go ahead, Joe.
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My granddad MacRae died when he was 88 years old in his sleep. He smoked a pipe and cigars all his life, adult life, and he died with his all of his original teeth. Oh, what's the lie? And he and he probably he stood probably about five eight, five nine, and he probably weighed a hundred and fifty, sixty pounds. Oh. Never had a sick day in his life, but he smoked all his life. But he always told my dad, if you're gonna smoke, stay away from the filtered cigarettes because it's Oh. It it's the fibers in the filter that kill you.
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Yeah. Could be. There's some there's an ungodly amount of chemicals in that cigarette tobacco. And and my ex wife's
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husband's granddad died when he is a 20 a 126 years old smoking a cigarette.
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126 he lived till?
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Well, he was a
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he was a Palestinian.
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I'll be He was a what? A what? Palestinian.
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A Palestinian.
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Well, I'm just Back when, yeah, back when I was in, a teenager, I saw a National Geographic, some people say, National, pornographic. Oh, yeah. Those pictures in them, but there was a picture. There's a night 1960
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what you know what it is, don't you, Brent? It's Playboy for black folks. Yeah. I guess so.
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I say I was a teenager. No. I wouldn't. I would because I remember it was in 1972. I was a little bit older, but it was a picture of a woman on the front page of the National Geographic, an old woman without any teeth, and she had both hands sitting on the top of her cane. She had her head her chin sitting on her hands, and her mouth was shut. That meant her because she didn't have any teeth. You can tell because her poor lip was almost touching her nose, and she looked like, she looked pretty rough. And I opened up to that page, and, they nobody knew exactly how old she was, but they knew she had to be at least a 135 years old because her first husband died in the Crimean War.
That was in 1850. Well, they interviewed this gal, and she was from that place over there that is part of Russia, now called Georgia.
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Oh, yeah.
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And people there for centuries have lived consistently over a 100 years old. Correct. Yeah. And they said there was a fellow there at that time that was 165, and they had a picture of him. It was kind of a a bad picture of black and white listening to a transistor radio, but Oh my god. That time, the Russian government wouldn't let anybody talk to him. But they they allowed National Geographic to talk to this gal, and they asked her. They said, how long how long you been smoking? Because she was smoking she rolled her own cigarettes. And she said, I started smoking in 1910 when I was about 70 years old.
And, and they said, do you drink? She said, I drink a a shot of vodka every morning before breakfast. Now I'm not saying you should do that stuff, and I don't know that she was telling the truth. See? All I know is what I read. But they did interview a lot of people there that were well over a 100 and still working every day. The big thing there at that time was tea. They grew tea tea and they tea leaves, you know. Uh-huh. Then they also, in that article, went there's a couple places in the world that are like that. The other place is in the Andes Mountains, apparently. Uh-huh.
And there are people there's a group a a geographic area down there where people consistently live over a 100 years old as well, but not as old as these folk over in so they they talked about what do you eat and all that kind of stuff. Now the people in The United States, and I don't promote their religious point of view. I don't believe it's correct fundamentally. But, because the founder of this religious group, founded the the religious group with the idea that the Bible tells us how to eat so that it will curtail the sexual aggression of men.
As you can imagine, it was founded by a woman and her name was Ellen White. Mhmm. And Ellen, founded the Seventh day Adventist. I mean, with other people, it was in the Millerite Movement in Upper State New York, but, she founded the movement. The idea was we gotta do something about men. She hated men. She hated sexual aggression. And, of course, she didn't stop to consider that's why she's here because some man was sexually aggressive. But, they have, because of that, really put their heads deep into health. That's true. And they focused their headquarters at one point in time in a place called Loma Linda, California.
Right. Loma Linda. And there's a large hospital there, or as they say around here, a horse pedal. I try to be a little more sophisticated. But a large I call Loma Linda Hospital. And there are other Seventh day Adventist hospital hospitals in that area in Southern California. But the National Geographic magazine noticed they interviewed a lot of these Seventh day Adventists, and they did live a long time. Now the one thing they said not not a long time. Not like they're over a 100 consistently, but they seem to do better statistically than other folk. But one thing that they did do that they found, they said, was that they all like to eat nuts.
Things like almonds, pistachios
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Walnuts?
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Walnuts. Yeah. Nuts. And, nobody, I don't think, would argue those aren't good for you. But, they tried to find the common denominator among them. But it bears looking, because it isn't really nice. I don't think it's natural. It's not natural that we don't make a 100 years old. We're living in a chemically inundated world now. You can't heart you can't buy anything hardly. No. That food wise, that isn't from meat that has chemicals in it or agricultural products from the land that has chemicals in it. And the few people that raise their critters and their crops without chemicals are in high demand now, by the way. Yes.
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Yeah. Well, you know, that's a difference down here, Brandon. I can go to the store, which I gotta do after the show this afternoon, and go, like, find, for example, the ketchup section. Yeah. And I can take a a a bottle or a thing of cut hunts and turn it around where all the ingredients are there and then take one from Ecuador and turn it around. Uh-huh. It's got, like, three or four ingredients. The other's got about 40 or 50. I mean, even the that's right, Roger. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just gonna say what they did down here because there's a lot, I guess, of illiterate people, the Indians, is is they put a scale on there for salt, sugar, and fat. Uh-huh. Three different colors, and they'll give you a gradient on how much that product contains of that ingredient so that the people that can't read those few ingredients know or have a better decision buying experience.
Just to throw that in.
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Oh, no. It's good to know. And, if we import stuff like that, it'll put pressure on what's going on here. But we also have, of course, you can't even buy beer. Beer that isn't loaded with chemicals. I'm sure that's true. Now there are a few places you can go in these smaller breweries that produce beer according to the Bavarian standard. That's what called in the industry. And there is a brewery in Bavaria. I can't pronounce the name. It starts with an h, but it's one of those long German names. It's been there for over a thousand years, and they produce beer with just four ingredients. And I've seen breweries around that do that too, just four ingredients. And it can be done. Course, bread, same way. You don't need all all that. You look at the ingredients in a loaf of bread. No. Thank you. It's yeah. No. Thank you. I don't want it. I'd I'd just assume not eating bread if it's that bad. I don't eat bread.
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I don't eat bread. Unless it's Leviticus bread, I don't need it. Well, there is you can buy now in The States even in Walmart
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and Kroger. I've noticed you can buy what they call organic bread, but it doesn't have all those chemicals in it. It tastes a lot better too. Yeah. Well, Roger,
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I Well, I was cutting off on tobacco and agricultural, John, this morning because that guy that I saw on the vape thing does anybody else have anything to add to this or we can take it in another direction? Paul's got something. Yes, sir. I got
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I got one more quick thing. Okay. And make I think we got another line of service. Also?
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Comment also. Hold on.
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Alright. Hang on a minute, Will. What I wanna mention is, what they say about nicotine being addictive. There are people that are reporting that it's not the nicotine that's that it's addictive, it's the 599 other approved chemicals that the, FDA allows tobacco companies to put in their tobacco on a rotation, just to maintain the, the addictiveness of tobacco. You know,
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they they got this so screwed up, like fluoride. Yeah. Do you know there's over a 100 chemicals that fall under that umbrella besides just fluoride? And they can put any of those things in there. I mean, the whole it's just designed to kill us, folks.
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You remember Tex Ritter, Roger? Yeah. A little bit. Well, Tex got really famous with that one song, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke. That cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. Puff, puff, puff until you puff yourself to death. Tell Peter at the pearly gate. I really hate to make him wait. But I just got to have another cigarette. Cigarette. Yeah. I do remember that for sure.
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Yeah. I remember all the TV commercials and stuff before they yanked all those. And what they need to do next, and I think Bobby Kennedy's working on, is yanking pharmaceutical commercials. Uh-huh. And that would be a big one. Okay? Now, Paul, sorry to interrupt. Go ahead. Yeah. One other thing,
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that I wanted to add is nicotine is not a bad thing. It does, it does, attach to the ACE two receptors, so the spike protein cannot attach to them. And the best source of it, you can get it I mean, MER says you can get it through nightshade vegetables and things like that, red potatoes, tomatoes, like, like, Dave mentioned. There is another way you can get it, and I do this. There is a, genus of tobacco, it's called nicotiana rustica. It is a wild grown, oftentimes ceremonial tobacco used by Indians, And its unique characteristic is the nicotine content of that tobacco is nine times
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the amount of normal tobacco. Oh my goodness. So that's why they smoked it in those peach pies.
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Right. I buy, whole leaf nicotiana rustica, a pound at a time. I think I have about two and a half pounds in the house right now. But, what you can do is you can take a very small amount of it. I'll take a small amount of a leaf and I'll just let it float it in a in a pot of coffee and it just steeps into the coffee. So that way, there's nicotine in the coffee. You can, use it to make nicotine tinctures, with alcohol. You can, like Sherry said, you can steep it, like a tea, put it in your your, foot bath with some water, and then you just soak it in that way. Mhmm. You don't have to smoke or spend the a good portion of the national debt buying nicotine
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patches and have them stuck on your body all over. They they don't have to eat. How much does a pound of that tobacco cost? Do you remember? It's, like, $25. That's pretty cheap.
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$25 for a whole leaf.
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Well, I'll tell you what I would have never believed it. I went up there to Salta when I was in Argentina to go hang around with Bill, Casey and his bunch on one of their open houses. And we're sitting there in a restaurant, couple other people, and here come these vendors that come through the restaurant selling bags of cocaine leaves. K? Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. Cocaine. And so I bought one. And the make tea out of that, boy, it it doesn't give you any of the acidic stuff that coffee does on your stomach. And, man, it will wake you up just wonderfully. It's really good. Doesn't have the base in it. It's not cocaine.
It's just got the stimulus in it. So, anyway, just so I don't do it very often. I would have to go if I I could go get it today, but I'd have to go up to Quito and go to some market somewhere, some seedy part of town and go find the Koko leaf dealer, and I'm just not into doing that. So anyway but that's a lot of people do it is is really good. I mean, it will flat wake you up in the morning. K? Oh, yeah. Well, we had the comment in the
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chat. Jimmy, sent me a private message. Nicotine and rustica. Oh. Okay. Nicotine rustica, commonly known as Aztec tobacco or strong tobacco, is a rainforest plant in the family solanaceae native to South America. Warning, it's extremely high nicotine content. The elevated nicotine levels in nicotiana rustica contribute significantly to its popularity and cultural importance. Indigenous peoples throughout The Americas have long used this plant for various ceremonial, medicinal, and spiritual purposes. The whoops. Wait a minute. The Mayans, Aztecs, and numerous North American tribes have incorporated Nicotiana Rustica into their traditional practices for centuries. And a good place to get it is you can get it from from leafonly.com.
Leafonly.com.
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Now Paul, you mix that with this other Mullen stuff you mentioned earlier. Do you ever do it just straight?
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What? Do you think I'm nuts?
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I I'm just asking, man. I've never heard of this stuff before. It's 87 years old. I am learning new things.
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I think, I think I've done, like, a one hit or a two hit kind of a thing or Uh-huh. Like, take, like, a normal tobacco and and either blend it, you know, even though I don't have a license.
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Well, I see. You're not selling it commercially. You're using No. I'm not. Probably good.
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But, and, well, I I blend it with mullein, and, I have, on occasion, you know, done a straight nicotiana rustica, like, an inch long, whatever. And oh, yeah. You can definitely tell. But I would I would recommend, you know, put a part of a leaf in a in a pot of coffee or, or a pot of tea or something like that. Just drink it. I mean, it's not gonna hurt you.
[00:47:25] Unknown:
So or at least I don't believe it's gonna hurt you. Oh, well, yeah. I probably would not. Although, I may have because the Ecuador is not a country to be a pipe smoker in. I'm a tell you that right out front. Right. Everything's gotta be imported. They grow a little bit here from probably people that wanna roll their own. But I'd have to go you know, when you go hold on a second. But you know, when you go into, like, Walmart or something, you're walking out, you see Captain Black and that stuff right there by the counter at checkout with $7.
That's $21 down here. It lasts a week. So I was spending, like, $80 a month on this kind of tobacco, and I'd you know? And on top of the what what was the coup de grace here was all this dental work that I've gotta get done. And the dentist said, I don't you gotta quit or, you just me throwing all that away. Evidently, it will really impact those,
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implants. So alright. Joe, was that you trying to say something? I'm sorry I stepped on you, buddy. What you got? No. But I think there's somebody else ahead of me. I I don't wanna cut him, but I want have a comment before you get off subject.
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Okay. Well, who else is in there sandwiched in between?
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Yeah. It was me ex gentile.
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Okay. Exgentile is one. Was that Gregory on the other? So there's Sketch,
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Exgentile, and Joe.
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Okay. Sketch.
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Okay. I used to smoke the finest West Virginia golden tobacco. It was the sweetest tobacco I've ever had. It was called Three Castles, and it came in a can. And they used to buy it and ship it to England, pure it, put it in a can, and ship it back into The United States. And they went out of business right after the lawsuits. I was very impressed
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when I Right. I'm sure. My free cash. And you had to you had to quit. Okay. X, what you got, baby? Or or x, gentle? No. X. X is an x. X.
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Yeah. Well, don't Get that meat open. Are you are you guys paying attention to the Supreme Court, ruling on, firearms and marijuana here in The United States? I think you're about ready to to throw the hammer down on on people. Well, we'll You know? Who they gave permission to to to do that? And then and then you know firearms, and then they're gonna they're just they're just, you know you know how they operate doing doing all that dirty work behind the scenes Okay. Setting everybody up.
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XGen, hang on just a second. That's a new topic. I think Joe's gonna wrap this up under tobacco.
[00:50:03] Unknown:
As a Nash national, you don't have to worry about that one bit. Okay. Yes, there are a couple of well, you know what's going on? The Supreme Court opens its session in October, and they're they're they're granting certiorari and they're hearing cases right now, but you may not see that decision till next April. Okay? So but, yes, there's that one. I'll tell you there's another really important one up there, Brent. I don't know if even you know about it. The the Voting Rights Act of the Civil Rights of 1964, which may turn the whole political landscape upside down.
That decision's sitting up there too right now.
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Hey, Russ. Do you you know what the question is?
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Well, I don't really any more than that. I've heard it. I just forgotten it. But it they say it'll that there'll be a Republican regimes for the next fifty years. It's what Lyndon Johnson did to get get the reverse that we've been dealing with that have presented so many of these problems. No no meaning at home.
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Can we go to Joe for a minute, wrap up the tobacco conversation before we go elsewhere?
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Yep. Sure could, please. Go ahead, Joe. This is a this is a question for Brent. We most everybody is aware of what it says in Proverbs about strong drink Uh-huh. And to avoid it. But where in the scripture does it say to avoid smoking?
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Well, of course, it doesn't say it doesn't say avoid smoking tabacky because that wasn't something that grew over there where the Bible was written. But I've had people say that Well, they had hashish.
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They had hashish.
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Yeah. They maybe they did, but it's not mentioned. And I don't know that they knew about it. Frankly, maybe they did. We don't know. But if you can't show it in the Bible from evidence in the Bible, it'd be pure speculation, to say, well, they knew this or that. But let's let me get to the point. Christianity, of course, is what the Bible's all about, the cover to cover. Although they didn't call it Christianity in the earliest times back when our grandma and grandpa, Adam and Eve, were given a partial real estate partial real estate to to, guard and tend to.
But in all of it, there's one chief thing that mankind is to do that is above all other things, and that to know this is to know what you're supposed to do. And I'm, of course, discouraged that it's never hardly ever sell seldom ever mentioned. Our forebears mentioned it over and over and over again. Matter of fact, that was the first thing they learned as they were coming up, the little boys and girls. And the question of the catechism that they hammered at the Puritan Parliament, the Puritan Parliament, the Puritan Party controlled parliament in England.
Of course, they went to war with the crown, etcetera, and that set the stage for our separation from Britain because the people that lost fled to America. But coming back to what they did, they gave a list of questions to the to the men. They they're called today the men assembled at Westminster. And I'm getting to the point about should we smoke? The men assembled at Westminster. And what they did, they sent out, a subpoena to all of the men in Scotland and England and Wales who they thought had the tools necessary to really dig into the Bible and, and find out the answers to the questions that parliament had submitted to them. Parliament didn't want to go beyond the Bible in their legislation. That was the idea. So they said, we're gonna give it to these fellows here, and we want them to answer these questions, and they did. Then it they were assembled for a long time answering questions.
And out of that, those questions answered arose what we call today the Westminster Confession of Faith. Because the answers to those questions also became the Westminster Catechism. It's all one work. The Westminster Catechism is a series of questions, and every question answers a question that the previous questions answer begs. In other words, every question is an answer to a question that the previous answer to the previous question forces. So it's a series of questions that if you learn the answers to the questions, you'll have a strong handle strong handle on what the people that founded our country believed.
We are a product of the Puritan migration, and we are a product also of the migration that came during the next century from, Scotland and England. Among the Dutch and Germanic groups that lived mostly in New York and Pennsylvania, which were reformed in their point of view. They had their own catechism, by the way, called the the Heidelberg and the Belgic confession. And the Heidelberg attracts as the same fundamental positions they took that the Puritans and the Presbyterians from Scotland took. But the first question the first question of that catechism is this.
And all the questions fall within its jurisdiction, within the scope of its ambient. The first question is this. What is the chief end of man? What is the chief end of man? And then the answer that every child who or every child or every grown up that learns that catechism, the answer is in two parts, and they are progressive. In other words, the fur the second results from doing the first. What is the chief end of man? Answer, to glorify God and resulting from that, enjoy him forever. To glorify God and enjoy him forever. So we see that throughout the bible in many different ways, and it's a summation of all of the Bible. But it's taken also very powerfully from the end of the book of Ecclesiastes where Solomon says throughout the book, vanity of vanity the vanity of vanities, emptiness of emptiness, all is emptiness under the sun, tekath shemesh.
The Hebrew phrase tekath shemesh, under the sun. And he stays under the sun, and everything is vanity under the sun till he gets to the last chapter and the last two verses. Chapter 12 verses two through 14. And then he says, see him that everything is emptiness and foolishness under the sun. What is the whole duty of man? See the parallel there? What is the chief end of man? What is the whole duty of man? And then he gives the answer. And when he does, he, at that point, gets out from under the sun and brings the creator of heaven and earth into the equation. And he says this, that the whole duty of man is to glorify God is to fear God excuse me. Fear God and safeguard his commandments.
The King James says keep, but the word Shamir means to safeguard. It's the same root that first appears for the first time in the bible when it when God tells Adam to keep the garden. That's an old English word that means defend. In the verb form, it means defend. Defend the word of God and, fear him and defend his word. There is and it goes and then Solomon says, for this is all of man, the whole duty. There isn't anything else. And I agree. Obviously, that's what the Bible says, and everything in the Bible falls under that command. And everything in the Westminster Confession falls under the summation that they make taking that statement and many others. For example, David said in Psalm 16, I have set Yahuah.
Tyndale said, Jehovah. The word means he happens. It's a verb. That's the name of God. I have set him always before me. Result, therefore, my heart is glad. I have set Yahoha. I have set the lord always before me. Therefore, the result, my heart is glad. What is the chief end of man? Glorify God. And the result, enjoy him forever. My heart is glad. Okay. We got that. So Paul the apostle says in first Corinthians, writing to the cruddy Corinthians, I like to say, and they were cruddy. Stedman called it first and second Californians. That's how cruddy they were. And he said, whatsoever Paul the apostle writing to the cruddy Corinthians says, whatsoever man does, do all to the glory of God.
Glorify God? What's the result? He didn't give the result right there, but that's what you do. You don't have to worry about the result. The result will happen. But to glorify God but then the question, of course, that forces another question, begs another question. What is the glory of God? Another question. How do you do that? And all the Westminster Confession does that. It just keeps answering those questions, breaking it down further and further and further. But just to start with that, what does it mean to glorify God? Well, glorify God. Well, let me ask you this. I had people say, well, can I can I smoke pot? I had a guy when I was out in California.
He's smoking pot, and he was, oh, boy. He was smoking pot and, drinking a lot. And and he said, well, where in the Bible does it say I can't smoke pot? I said it doesn't say that that doesn't say that expressly anywhere. Where does it say I can't drink liquor? Well, it doesn't say that either. Tells you how dangerous it is, of course. It tells you how dangerous opiates are too, by the way. Doesn't it say not to do it in excess, Brent? Well, yes. And and other things too. But what it says is, do not be drunk. That's what it says. Yeah. But getting back to the thing about and and I'm glad you bring these things up, Roger. Let's see. You it all I'm saying is just begging more questions, but let's try to answer this one real quick, and then we can talk if other people want to wanna talk. But, Paul says, whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
So, oh, you wanna know if you could smoke pot? Well, let me ask you this. And I used to ask Joe this. The Holy Spirit of God says he lives inside you. And by the way, I was there when he he recognized his conversion. You you don't do your conversion. You recognize it happens. People call it conversion. Whatever you call it. When God gives you the new birth and he births you from above by his will, then you recognize it. And I said, Joe, if the spirit of God the Bible says the spirit of God lives in your body, in your organs, in your bones, in your marrow, he's in you. Maybe you should ask him if he wants a toque on a joint.
Maybe ask him. Or if you wanna take a slug of liquor, ask the spirit of God, the person of the spirit of God, would you like to have a slug of liquor? Because he's right there. Whatever you do, he's gonna he's gonna be affected by it. It's gonna crowd him. It's Gonna crowd him. That's my answer. So can you here's the question I would ask, and I'm not answering it for anybody. That's not my jurisdiction. My jurisdiction is to present what the Bible says, break it down as much as I know how to break it down, and maybe there's something you can do with it. Can you smoke tobacco to the glory of God? That's the question that I think is is foundational to to understanding a whole lot of things about life. But number one, is this sin or is it not sin? Can I smoke pot to the glory of God? Can I drink liquor to the glory of God? Can I smoke tobacco? Can I chew tobacco to the glory of God? You go down to Kentucky, down there where those kinfolk of mine are, and you go to church down there, and they'll all go in the church house. No kidding to this day. It's such a part of the culture, and they'll walk out of the church at fundamentalist. We're talking people that believe the Bible. They'll come out of the church house, and they'll light up their pipes and their and you don't. In that part of the world, you do not preach against Tabakki.
If you do, you'll you'll not make a living as a preacher. Maybe you think you ought to. I don't know. I'm just saying in that culture, that's not something you talk about. And because it's so much a part of what who people are and what they do, and even even to this day in some places, they grow a lot of it, and it's their living. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying here's what the Bible says, and the question is I know what it says. That's easy. The question is, how does it apply? And there are two things always with true law. What does it say?
Secondly, how does it apply in your life, in your situation, in your particular set of circumstance stances that, by the way, are different than everybody else's, oh, by definition. The application of the word of God the an application of the law of God, I should say, is, as multivarigated as the human mind. But the law of God listen to me close. The law of God never ever ever ever changes. Its application is different in such different situations, but the law and but the application, when you go to apply it in your life, keep this in mind. How can I apply this in a way that undergirds, upholds, and declares true the law of God?
That's the ultimate question. And that's the ultimate question, just as a matter of principle, the Supreme Court ought to be asked, and every time they interpret the constitution of The United States to a different application. How can I interpret the application in this specific instance of this specific case in a way that upholds the principle of God's law? Upholds if it's the constitution. If it's a true principle, uphold the principle, for example, of the constitution of The United States or the constitution of your state. If it's good law, if it's consonant with God's law, it's good law. If it's consonant with God's law, it's good law. And that's what the men at Westminster wanted to know. We don't wanna pass legislation as mere mortals that goes a field of the Bible. So you men at Westminster answer these questions for us. By the way, that particular document's worth reading, worth looking things up in. It's on the internet. You can find it. I recommend it to all my listeners.
Check it out. Oh, it also has, of course, all of the foundational doctrines of Christianity that theologians deal with in the beginning. For example, who is God? What about the person of the Godhead? How do we know? All those questions it answers too. And then it gets to the practical application. For example, one of the raging questions in that day that there was gunpowder. The reek of gunpowder was in the air and hanging in the noses of the men that were assembled at Westminster. Hanging in the noses of the parliament. They were at war. These were questions that weren't just hypothetical, theoretical philosophy.
No. No. This stuff was real. They were answering questions that had to be dealt with right then by action. And one of them was, what is an oath? And when do we, as servants of God, when are we obligated to take one, if at all? And how to do it? Why? Because at that time, monasteries all over Europe were closing. Monasteries and nunneries had been closed in England, but Rome was trying to reestablish them. And the people that were doing it were requiring blood oaths as, for example, required with the with, the secret societies, the Masons. And we talked about on this on this program, and Joe was kind enough to tell us a whole lot of things about that. And I appreciate that, Joe. That was a milestone in my life to have a Mason come and talk to us about it. But all of those things about oaths were important at that time because the question was, if you were a Roman priest or a nun that had taken those blood oaths, did you have an option to disregard your oath?
That was real then. Real real. And it by the way, it's real real today too if you're called in to do jury duty. And you take an oath to obey the instructions of the judge. And you get in the jury room, and you say, wait a minute. I don't believe the judge was right, or I don't wanna do that. I think there's something else going on here. Do you have the the right or the duty to put it in contemporary terms to disregard your oath? And the answer is yes. Because an oath to do something that you and your heart of hearts have discovered later is unlawful or that you knew was was unlawful to start. You don't have an option to disregard your oath. You have a duty to disregard your oath. But they're trying, of course, to control jurors that way all over our country by having you swear to obey this. You can swear to do it. There's nothing wrong with doing that because you have every reason to believe the judge will instruct you correctly. But when you discover in your heart of hearts that he hasn't, then your duty comes to disregard your oath. All of these things are in the Westminster confession, and they're apropos, on point today because the fundamental questions of mankind are what some people call perennial.
That means yearly. They just keep coming up again and are always ever present because the MO, the Wiles, w I l e s, of the devil never change fundamentally. And people a new crop of suckers comes along, every day, as you know, because new folk are being born and there are young people. And the old folk, it's our duty to teach and say as much as we can what the truth is that we've learned by bad decisions. Yeah. And a whole lot of the things. Roger, go ahead. And that's why they got the whole industry of old folks home so they could separate the grandparents from the grandparents. Good point, Roger. Good point. But I don't wanna miss summation. Whatever your activity is that your question, you smoking, drinking, doing pot, fornication, whatever.
If ask yourself this, does this make God look better Or does it weaken the gospel toward other people? Will it make my brother stumble? Paul goes into that too. There there are things we shouldn't do, although we have freedom to do it because I I don't wanna sit around and drink beer with a with a fella or in the house of a fella or have him in my house sit around drink beer. And I know he's trying to deal with alcoholic alcoholic tendencies. You see, it's a matter of application. It's a matter of what can I do to the glory? How can I make God look better? How can I strengthen my Christian brother if he's struggling? All those questions go into it. And so, Joe, I appreciate the question. That's helpful.
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That's where life is. Anybody else got any comments or questions on the, on the Yeah. Right. We've discussed for over an hour? There it is right there. Wayne does. Hey, Wayne.
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Oh, this is Samuel.
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Oh, it's Samuel. Samuel. Sorry.
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I wanted to expand a little bit on what Paul said. He mentioned the, 600 substances that are added to cigarettes. Well, they actually are about one eighth to one quarter depending on the brand of the weight. So it's a lot of stuff. And on top of that, when you ignite it, now you in the smoke, you've got six, they say six to 7,000 different substances. So to go go back and even try to put this on tobacco is a bit difficult because you've got such a complex compound here, and then you've got us which are all individuals and complex. And I think once you add that much, chemical to something that God made, you could start calling it pharmakia. And once you're in that area, now now you've got a substance that's condemned in the Bible.
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Yeah. Well, it can't be anything like the original substance, and I totally agree with you, Samuel. Thank you. Who who else has got something? Very valid point, Samuel. Who else has got something that we can launch off wherever we want? Well, what direction should we go in? Brent, audience, you wanna give us some stimulus? Well, I did get that. The ninth circuit rule ruled against, Gavin Newsom in California yesterday on Trump's ability to call up the National Guard.
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Oh, well, we knew where that would go. I well, I that was an easy question. Yes.
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It wasn't like it was hard. You gotta respect Trump. He's on even though they know these are roadblocks put up there intentionally by these liberal judges,
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he's still recognizing them until they get overturned in in in appeal. I think that's that's and that's what I get it. That's good, Roger. See, that's what Abe Lincoln didn't do. When it came to habeas corpus, instead of waiting for the court the Supreme Court to rule, which would've taken a little time, it would well, it would've went straight to Supreme Court. Wouldn't take him much time. Instead of waiting for them to rule, and then if the ruling he disagreed with it, then go against it, it'd be good to wait until they do rule, and then maybe you'll find agreement. You know, there's no obligation among the three branches of government that they obey each other. The president doesn't have to obey the Supreme Court. Supreme Court doesn't have to obey the president. Congress doesn't have to obey the president. The president doesn't have to obey Congress, and on and on we go. But it's helpful and stable if they can do it.
If they can agree agree somehow, it's good that they seek to do that. But in that particular case, he just said no. We're at war, and I'm not gonna wait. Well, like, as like I say, because we were at war, waiting wouldn't have been long, and he could have done that. I think there were between eight and nine hundred violations of habeas corpus during his administration.
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Did did he not put the entire Maryland legislature under arrest or is he threatened to? I know he put I I in rest. Scott Key's grandson in.
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Yeah. He he arrested the legislators that he knew it was probable that they were gonna vote vote to leave the union. He arrested the opposition. Yeah. And he understood politics. One time when he was in the Illinois legislature, they had a group of men from Southern Illinois called the long nine. There were nine of them, and they were all over six foot tall. So I think it was nine. But, anyway, there was some number. All of them, they got tired. Well, the legislature at that point was in Southern Illinois at a place called, Vandalia, which was the official end of that first federal highway system, I was talking about that Right. Cumberland Road.
Yeah. Cumberland Road was no. The kind of the Cumberland Road was supposed to go to Saint Louis, but they ran out of money at Vandalia. At Vandalia, they they because Chicago, see, had been founded during that in the eighteen thirties, And the place was going like gangbusters, and they didn't expect that. And within forty years, it was the economic hub of not only The United States, but in in truth, the entire world.
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And and you know why? Yeah. That fast. What's that? You know why? Go ahead. Go ahead, Roger. Louisville was offered the railroad and they turned it down because they had the river.
[01:14:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It could be. Of course, then also though, Chicago connected to the Atlantic Ocean too. See? Yes. Through the through the, through the And then and then when they got the Illinois Central built from Chicago to New Orleans Roger, I hope you noticed I'm saying that the way you do. New Orleans. You you're doing a lot better. Thanks. Thanks. But, they should unless they connected, that that connected the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf Of Mexico, and you could make, by water, a complete circle. And I've known people that have done that. They they No. People take their yachts now and do that. They go Right. Out. You know? Well, they're scared to go in The Caribbean. There's a damn many pirates everywhere.
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Mhmm. Mhmm.
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That is true. Rich folk, I'm talking, that don't have anything else to do and more money than sense do that. But, Roger? Link, I was gonna say real quick, then I'll let whoever's wanting in, let him in. Jesus, John. Understood politics, and him and those other fellas came to a vote, and they didn't wanna vote at all for a strong political reason. And they locked the speaker of the Illinois house, had locked the door so nobody could get out. So those fellas jumped out the window. Second story. And they helped each other out. They got ticked off. They said, we don't have to vote if we don't want to. I mean, Lincoln understood politics. That's what I'm saying. And he understood what he was doing. Whether or not he made the right choice is another question he could've went. Back to you, Roger, and somebody tried Joe. It was Joe's trying to say something, Joe, buddy. No. It was it was Samuel.
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Oh, man. I just wanted to add quick quick confusing me. You know?
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I I I I'm I'm cautious about Trump going into these cities as you well know, but I wanna add something positive that he did. He he got this ruling in California, and yet, I think it was yesterday he called up the mayor of San Francisco, and he asked his opinion about whether he wanted that help or not. And the mayor said, and I guess this is true. I've looked into it as much as possible. Statistically, they have reduced the crime and the car break ins and violent crime a lot, and he is doing, it looks like, a bang up job. So he and Trump agreed that there'd be no action in San Francisco, and it but it does appear that the mayor has it in in his plan.
If it would be required, he it is like a last ditch thing for him. So I I think that's great that Trump took his advice and deciding not to
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go in based on what he's already doing and, what they're accomplishing there. Because they probably need all the troops they can get down in LA with that whole nest of thieves. That that's encouraging
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news. I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't know that. But encouraging that he's practicing restraint and what the law calls comity. That's kind of a funny word. C o e I n e y. Comity. It's an interesting word. Yeah. Restraint of the between the competing jurisdictions and not just running over everybody just because you can.
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Yeah. Well, I'm gonna tell you It also sounds like this mayor,
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Roger, it also sounded like this mayor is working with ICE
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and other federal agencies to achieve his goal. So, you know, it he's not I don't know much about this guy, but I think I'm gonna look him up a little more now. So Yeah. Well, I for those of you who've never been out there, I know Brent spent a lot of time out there over the years. San Francisco's gotta be one of the most stunningly beautiful cities in the world. K? I mean, I know Vancouver. I've not been to Vancouver. I've heard a lot of stories about it, but San Francisco is just stunning. And, the thoughts of the things that you hear about, fecal matter on the streets and syringes everywhere and all the horror stories, it's just, it was just real sad.
Anyway, my 2¢. Anybody got something to add or direction they'd like for us to go? Roger. There's Larry. I know I can identify his voice. Hey, Larry.
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Hey. Good morning. A little while ago, Brent, quoted a verse, be not filled with wine, and he left out a very important word in that quote. Be not filled with wine wherein is excess. It's the excess that causes the drunkenness, and that's very important because in another passage in the Bible, Paul is encouraging Timothy to take to drink a little wine for his stomach ailment. And, the and here's another thing. I'm not trying to justify drinking alcohol because the overarching principle that we have to go by is to avoid the appearance of all evil. So, you know, every man needs to guide himself sufficiently in his own mind.
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Very important word, excess. Anything in excess is not good. There's a lot of things that if you don't do enough of, they're not good for you. And then certainly if you do too much, they're bad for you. So I think that happy harmony is that middle ground with no excess in either direction.
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Well, I'm glad he brought that up for a couple of reasons. Of course, that's what the Bible says. But secondly, just to make a correction, I didn't quote that verse. I wanted to, and I'm glad you did, but I didn't quote it. I'm it it fills things out. But what it did say was that when you take the calculus of what the Bible says, it forbids drunkenness. And when it says there excess, that's the context, and that's really the meaning of the word, drunkenness. We don't want God said then the question comes, what is drunkenness? That's an important question too. These are Paul the apostle, though, notorious for, not really for not finishing his thoughts, not unpacking everything he says.
John and James and Peter aren't that way. And the reason is, in my studied opinion of what it's worth, the reason is Paul is educated beyond his intelligence. And he talks like an intellectual because he's got the equivalent of two or three, doctor's degrees. And Peter and John and James aren't hampered by any of that. The vocabulary is small, and they hit the nail with their heads, and they finish their thoughts, and they don't leave things hanging. And everybody agrees Paul leaves a whole lot of stuff hanging. You don't know exactly like, that that's a good one right there.
Being, drunk with wine. But of course, he's making another point there entirely. What he's saying there is, be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but rather be filled with the spirit of God. Well, of course, I tell people filled with the spirit of God and they say, oh, no. That means you get the second baptism. No. It doesn't mean that at all. And that's just silly talk. What it means that listen. When the the spirit of God does not come in parts, he comes in person. The spirit of God comes in person because he is a person. Therefore, he does not come in parts. You either he's either got you is the best way to say it. He's either got you or he doesn't. He either lives in you or he does not. He hadn't got one leg out and two legs in or one leg in and and and two and two arms out and one leg in and one leg in. No.
He is in you. Here's the question though. When Paul says be filled with the spirit, that's not something you can do taken in the way the charismatics take it, that you can get the second filling. It's not even understandable. So what does he mean? He means this, and, again, an illustration that I've probably used before. If I've used it before, just bear with me. There are other people here who maybe didn't hear it or haven't heard it at all. I have a buddy named, Mikey. I won't tell you, his last name, but I will say he grew up in a hardcore German a settlement a hardcore settlement of German farmers.
A hardcore settlement, a hardcore German farmers. Put it that way. Now people think if I were to ask who the richest ethnic group in America is, a lot of people would say, and I've had them do it to me, say, well, the Jews obviously have more money than anybody. And I say, no, you're wrong. I've read the statistics. The statistics about who the richest ethnic group in America are tell us clearly that it's people of German descent. They are the richest people in America. They have more money than anybody else, including the Jews, but there's a reason for it. And the reason is they work hard.
They're smart. They have developed. I shouldn't say they're smarter than anybody else, but their culture has developed a discipline. That's what they've done. And that's important in America to get ahead. And, he was from a community like that. Well, that means but we used to talk about people being Scott. You know, that means you're tight. Tighter than tree bark, they say at home. Or so so tight you won't squeak when you walk and all that kind of stuff. Well, that was all true about the Scots too. It still is. Tight fisted. But the Germans are that way or worse. Or worse? No. That's good in many ways. Well, that's the way Mikey was.
And Mikey, I went to his house one time, and I was in politics. He was helping me. We were painting signs back when we used to paint signs on four by eight piece of plywood, and he had a he he was like an engineer. He had an assembly line set up where we had one guy do one thing, you know, one guy, another guy do another thing. And we had these signs. We had stencils, and he was cranking them out the door. And I went in to drain my radiator. And I looked in the, in the tank. It was open. I looked, and there were two bricks in the tank in his, on his toilet.
I came out and said, Mikey, what's the what's the two bricks in the tank for? He said, well, there's no sense of me wasting all that water. I mean, I don't need that much water when I flush. So I put bricks in the tank and that that way I don't use so much water. And I thought about that a little bit. And I said, that's pretty smart. That was before we could get all the as the way we can now, the different kinds of toilets with the flush that use a little water and a lot of water and all that stuff. He didn't have that, so he put bricks in there. And later on, the light went on. I said, I get it.
I get it. That's a perfect illustration of what that verse says. If you are a Christian man or woman born of the spirit, the spirit of God, the person of the spirit of God lives in your body, in your organs, in your brain even. And all of him is there. He's omnipresent. He's God. All of God is at every minute point in all of his creation, but he lives in the man that is born from above. And in a way, in a way, he doesn't and anybody else. And all of him is there, omnipresence. But when you crowd him, you're not allowing your you're not allowing him to fill out your your body, your brain, your soul, your person as he wants to, you're cramping him. You're cramping him as though he were in a bottle, and you're putting other stuff in there that make life hard. Now that's an illustration.
That means it's an analogy. And that means it's to illustrate a point. And every analogy breaks down at some point. So don't bring a lot of criticism to me about the analogy. But the analogy I'm using does illustrate the truth of what the Bible says when it says, be not drunk with wine if wherein is excess. But the point is, be filled with the spirit. What is he saying? Listen. When you drink booze when you drink booze, it has an influence over your your brain, your body, everything. Paul is using booze as as an analogy to the spirit of God. He said, you wanna be spiritual, don't drink booze, don't do opiates. That that's not what this is about. But matter of fact, that will crowd the spirit of God.
If you wanna be spiritual, be filled with the spirit, just like you, if you're gonna be filled with, with with booze, you pop the cork and you pour it down your gullet. Well, then how is it that you can be filled with the spirit? This is the analogy he's making. How do you do it? Well, you take in that which is spiritual. And what is it that's spiritual? The manna from heaven. The manna from heaven, the spiritual food. We're all wherein you must feed to for the spirit of God to be operative in your life in a meaningful way. What is that? It is the word of God itself. The word of God.
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That is the way to be filled with the spirit. And to not have that in you is to to bar the spirit of God from dwelling richly in your body. That's what the Bible says. Drell dwell richly in your body. And if he dwells richly in your body, he has a control. He has a control that makes you powerful for his glory. Maybe one illustration from the Old Testament that I think, well, it adds to this a little bit, and then I'll stop, is the illustration of Samson.
In other words, a time in Samson's life, he was a powerful man physically. And there was a time in his life when he killed single handedly a thousand of the enemy in combat, personal combat, he killed them with a jawbone of a jackass in one hand. And he whipped them all. And they were well armed with armament, swords, shields, who knows what else, spears and javelins. He killed them all. Now that's quite a chore to kill a thousand men in one encounter. But the Bible says that he saw, and it's a long and fascinating story how he came to be in that position. You can go read it. But once he was in that position, he didn't know what to do. And he looked down and he saw the jaw, the dried out jawbone of an ass laying on the ground, not far from him. He went and grabbed it, and he went to work.
They attacked him, of course, and he went to work. The Bible says at that point, when he picked up the jawbone of the ass, and the prepositions are graphic. You know, prepositions tell us the relationship of one thing to another thing, one thing to a man, one man to another man, two things, two persons, a thing and a person, relationship between those two objects. If I say, for example, that the book is on the table, well, that reveals clearly the relationship positionally between the book and the table. The book is positionally on the table. That's what prepositions are for, preposition.
They tell you the position of one thing in relation to another. Well, the prepositions, the Hebrew prepositions there in that narrative are colorful beyond colorful. And the picture that these words paint is the picture of the spirit of God entering the body in a special way, in a powerful way somehow, of the the body of Samson as though the spirit of God were a hand sliding into a glove, sliding into a glove. And when that happened in a in that way at that time to Samson, his power was unstoppable. Jesus Christ said of all that and all the things that the miracles that his impaneled jury of 12 men saw, he said much greater things you will see.
And the the things that are going to happen through my people will be much greater than that. These are all pictures of what God's going to do with his people. And what I've noticed though, Roger, to drop a footnote about that, is God working through me? Was God working through Samson? Is God working through you? Or if you're Christian, man or woman, yes, he is. But Samson didn't know it. Samson didn't know nothing. He's the one who whooped the Philistines, and he did. And then it says he laid down. He thought he was gonna die. The spirit of God had used him like a rag doll, wore him, plumb out, but he didn't really understand it. Like when the children the the the sons of Israel, Moses came down off the Mountain Of Sinai after receiving the word of God, the law of God.
And it says that because he was in the very presence of God himself, the reflection of light from his face shone like the sun. They came down off the mountain, and the people commanded. They said, you've got to put a veil on your face. We we can't stand to look at you. We have to turn our heads away. And then it says it throws this comment in that's very telling. Just in passing almost, it says it. It says his face shone like the sun, but then it says, but this is the old King James. I remember it in old English. It says, but Moses Moses wist, w I s t, not that his face shone like the sun. He didn't know it. And when God is shining through you in ways more powerful than you even know, you don't know it.
That's what the Bible teaches. And you can bear that thread out all through. You may find out later, but don't think that you're going to enjoy because if you could, here's what would happen. You'd start taking credit for it. That's what would happen, and you wouldn't glorify God and enjoy him forever as the old confession says. Somebody started to say something.
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Who who was trying to say something there? I heard it also.
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Oh, good. We're hearing the same thing.
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No. They don't want a it must have been mute thing, going once, going twice.
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It wasn't me, but I just like to say that's very beautiful. I appreciate that.
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Yes. Thank you for making And also about
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oh, go ahead.
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No. I just say it's important that I then say that I didn't say that. The Bible said it, and I take absolutely no credit for it.
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For for fear that Yeah.
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Pointing it out, it's, yeah. It's so, you know, I think what you do feel probably is just an amazing amount of love when you're filled with that. You know? And, that's Well, no. God's love glowing through you. But I wanted to say about wine too. If you go to gty.org, that's Grace to You and John, MacArthur is gone now. But, there were some very interesting things he talked about wine in the bible. And it's it's like, just a term for grape juice and all the different ways they used it. Very often, it wasn't even fermented because that was considered sin. And it they even used it, like, kinda jellified, like a medicine, if you remember the Good Samaritan. Right? And, so whenever it says wine, it doesn't necessarily mean alcoholic.
And it's interesting that alcoholic drinks are called spirits, isn't
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it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They are. Yeah.
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Yeah. John. John. John or Johnny Mac as his friends call him. One of his, one of the things he major majored on was trying to show that wine, that the Bible talks about was one twentieth wine and, 19 parts water. Now I think he's pushing it a little too far. He was a teetotaler. I think that he what he's saying is not true. The way he presents it. I don't want to criticize a man who can't answer back to me, and I'm being very respectful when I say this because he was a good Bible teacher, but I respectfully disagree with a lot of what he said about that. I think he went too far in attempt to say that nobody is supposed to that the Bible commands us not to drink wine. And he did say that. That was his position.
And that I don't I can't see that the Bible says that for what it's worth. But I not the not to demean him in any way.
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But, there are things to learn from his presentation about it. And he had a lot to say about it. And you pointed that out. But, you know, you know There are there are others that say that too, but, yeah, it it might get take it a little far, but it's also, you know, I mean, like, when Christ turned his first miracle reported there in John second chapter. Right? The, turning the water into wine at the wedding in Canaan. And, Uh-huh. You know, was was that wine, you know, or was it grape juice? You know? And, yes. It was wine. It was fermented.
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Yeah. And we know that because that's what the words mean. Plus, he makes the comment or one fellow makes the comment. Well, the best wine is always is always, consumed first at a blowout like this, a wet in or at least. And Then you won't notice that the the other's not as good. You'll notice. Yeah. Yeah. So, that tends to indicate clearly. Of course, you don't have to go that far with what the words mean. And if you go to the winterized version of the Bible, I have included long notes on whether or not that wine was fermented. Now let's say the wine wasn't fermented. Well, it's still a miracle. A suspension, a temporary suspension of the normal courses of the laws of nature if you make grape juice out of it. But the word there doesn't mean it means fermented wine and I try to show that at length for whatever it's worth.
Thanks for bringing that up. Brent? Yes.
[01:37:35] Unknown:
Yes. Hi. This is Robbie. I I had the same, question because I had understood there were different words for wine, and some of the words meant fermented and some of the words were meant unfermented. So are you saying in your in your, scripture that you you specify whether each each mention was fermented or unfermented?
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If there yeah. If there's, if it's wine, as in John chapter two, when Jesus Christ, the record says he turned water into wine. But if there's a place where it's grape juice, I would the the translation at the least would say so. And a lot of times, if I think people it it provide it needs an explanation, I drop a footnote. I drop there's over 35,000 footnotes. Most of them are explaining why it translated this way or that way. And, because that for example, in the King James Bible, just as an instance, I have found words in the King James Bible that were, a single Hebrew word, for example, translated over two dozen ways with two dozen English words.
That's not accurate, but I don't fault them for it. I'll tell you why. It would have been utterly if I were to try to do that today without the computer tools I have to compile information, if I were to try to do that, I couldn't do it. And they didn't have that and they didn't do it. They just they did good. You know? I'm just saying we have tools now that enable us to do things quickly. When I was in school, I worked for a couple of fellows that were translators of the New American Standard Bible. Well, three, four of, four of them. One of them in particular, and all we did was compile information for him. You know, that's the way it is when you're in school. Students, do the work and the professors get the credit. That's And the students don't even know what they're doing. You know, they're just doing go for work, looking for things and and and cataloging things and making lists. And we did all that because computers weren't available to do that, and we did it.
And now today, I can do all of the things that two dozen fellows were doing for one man. I can do all those things and do it even faster. And I don't even have to spend money to do it. Yeah. I can I can punch a button on my computer and bring up every occurrence of a particular Hebrew word? No matter what form it's in, I can punch another button and I can bring up every occurrence of that word in a particular form and translate it the same way or with the same English word every time. Now there are some instances where you can't do that. You know, you run into those kind of words. You can do it 20 times, but there's that one time it just doesn't fit. That happens too.
But what I I I say, because I'm merely human, I I strive to do everyone the same. And I say that's my goal. And I do work at it really hard. And if the good Lord himself allows me, I'll be working at it the rest of my life. But it's it gets better all the time. I mean, it gets more consistent all the time. Probably gets easier for you too. Oh, yeah. I'm going a lot faster. I'm going a lot faster. Yeah. Because But the reason Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Somebody's gonna say something. I made that point is that most people
[01:41:08] Unknown:
don't realize that there are different words for wine in the bible, and some means, fermented and some means unfermented. And to me, that's a really big deal. I come from an alcoholic back family background. So it's it's really a background. So it's it's really a big deal. It's much more of a big deal than most than we realized.
[01:41:28] Unknown:
Well, I'm glad you said it that way. It is a big deal, but every word of God is a big deal. Because Jesus Christ said every jot and every tittle. And of course, every jot, that's the smallest Hebrew letter, tittle is a serif on the end of the letter. Some of the letters that change one letter to another, well, that would change a word. That could change the whole meaning of a passage telltale badge that says whether or not you're born from above, and it says it over and over and over is whether or and it says it over and over and over is whether or not you keep the word of God.
That doesn't mean do it. That means keep it. That means safeguard it. I was saying about that word a while ago, Shamir. It means to safeguard to the point of violence if necessary. You guard it. You don't change it. You don't add to it as it The Bible unpacks what keep means. It says, don't add to it. Do not take away from it. Deuteronomy chapter four, the book of Revelation, the last chapter. Don't do that. That's the mark of the Christian man or woman. That they guard the word of God with whatever tools that they're given. It's no small matter in what You make the point. Every word tells.
And if God's speaking, I wanna know what he said. I don't care about anything else. I hadn't ought to. I would just know, well, what did he say? That's what I have of him. I have his will. And the Bible is the record of what he likes, what he wants, how he responds to it. Every way you can imagine, he's telling us what he likes and what he wants. That's called law when it's the sovereign, and he's the only true sovereign.
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Back to whoever else wants to talk. Well, it's interesting. We spent the whole show on smoking and drinking. Yeah. That's pretty unusual around here. Yeah. I'll tell you one thing. I'm like, Robbie. I came from, I think you know, a alcoholic father.
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Uh-huh.
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He wasn't a bad drunk. He's a happy drunk, but he's drunk nonetheless and sober for seventeen years before he died. Uh-huh. And I just can't stand to be around drunks. Well, that's the way I'm such full of themselves, and they're draping all over you. And they're it's just really unpleasant. I try and get away from them as fast as I can.
[01:43:57] Unknown:
Yes. Very, very dangerous. Liquor, is dangerous in the extreme of the Bible warns about it over and over and over, but it does not give us mere mortals authority to legislate against it like we have done in the past. It doesn't work. God has given us a jurisdiction. He's given us the Bible to warn us, but that's the balance of the matter. No. Yeah.
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All things that make them illegal, all it does is create black markets.
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That's why the men at Westminster, the the the parliament assembled them by subpoena to say, we want to legislate. We need to, but we do not want to go afield from the Bible. Please answer these questions. And if the laws that men pass in their governments go beyond the jurisdiction that God has given men to legislate, then they're not law at all. And the hell will, the hell that will be paid for passing them will be without measure. They understood that. That's why they asked. That's why when that same political party got to America during the massive period of migration of the 16, from 1620 on through the 1640s and the 1650s, they didn't impanel or did not put legislatures in put in place right away.
They had judges, they impaneled jurors, they had a governor to command the militia, but they said we've got legislation. For right now, we've got the Bible. We're we're we need to start there. You know, it was that way all across America. When the California gold rush started and all of a sudden there were a 100,000 Anglos in California and 10,000 federal troops in San Francisco, and they didn't know what to do. Men established governments right away. And they did not elect legislatures. They did what they had done all across America as men hacked their way across. The first thing they did, they only got involved with the government with some kind of government if there was a problem. If there's a problem and they had to impanel a jury, they'd do it. That's what they did.
And they the Puritans did the same thing. He'd done it. So we need to get back to that now.
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We need to get It's happening. What's happening? Fundamental. Yeah. That's right. There's an incredible resurgence of Christianity and people going to church. Now they're probably going to some of those, you know, Zionist things, but they're still going back to church and looking for answers. I think that's very positive.
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Instinctively instinctively, when there is a crisis, said a famous philosopher, I believe he was from Spain. But he observed that when there is a crisis, that means we must make decisions. We must do something. When that happens, men instinctively turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. Now that's just an observation. I've I see it in the Bible though. I see it happening. I see the record of that in the Bible. Men will turn their eyes toward their origins and look there for a sign. Oh, I know what I wanted. And did you hear that judge
[01:47:05] Unknown:
that's overseeing? I'm not sure where he is. The, Charlie Kirk assassination has put a gag order out on over 3,000 people. No kidding. Where was that? I'm not sure where he is, but he put a gag out or a a order out this week on over 3,000 people, including Candace Owens. According to him, they're not supposed to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Don't you think that's a little bit suspicious and maybe an maybe an overreach?
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I I would think and I'm I'm I'm, speculating, but I I I would think that it will be disregard across the board. I'm willing to disregard it. Aren't you? We're breaking up. Oh, of course. I think it's absurd.
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And it brings to mind the quote, which I credit John Vincent to. Edward Gibbons, who wrote The Rise and the Fall of the Roman Empire. And and the quote that John used out of that whole voluminous, because it'd be a couple of different books, the a corrupt judiciary is the first engine of tyranny.
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Oh, no question. Because at that point, at the judiciary is the only place justice can occur. Yep. Justice doesn't occur in the legislature. Justice doesn't occur in the executive branch. Justice can only occur in individual instances with persons. No broad brushes of legislation. No broad commands from an executive like a president or a king, but only in individual instances of disputes and only individual persons. There's no such thing as justice with a labor union, justice with a an association. That that's not something our common law even recognizes.
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Well, you get that situation where a judge has that kind of of the wide range of decisions. And now what do you get that's even more corrupt? Prosecutors. Because they got no checks and balances.
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What you have there is a a judge who went through school. He wasn't taught anything. He wasn't taught the fundamental things about our common law tradition. Our common law tradition is more fundamental to us than the constitution of The United States by far. That our common law tradition without it, the constitution of The United States means absolutely nothing. And that's what we're losing. In other words, every phrase and every clause of that brief document freights centuries of our common law as it applies to government. And with it doesn't explain anything. It doesn't unpack or expound anything. It just states things in brief fashion.
Couched in terms of our common law, that's a quote from chief justice staff Taft of the US Supreme Court. If I say, or as the constitution says, you have a right to trial by jury, well, what does that mean? Somebody reading that that did it from another country wouldn't have a clue what that meant. And most Americans don't know what it means either, frankly. They might know well there's 12 persons on a jury, but they don't know how important that is or why. How do you impanel a jury? How do you use a jury? What does the jury allow to do in the jury room? Those are common law doctrines that go back centuries. And if they're not followed, then the decision of the jury is as our constitution points out in the federal federal courts, yeah, the decision of the jury is worthless. We gotta go back and do it again. When it says when it says you have a right to remain silent, well, what does that mean?
And where did it come from? And how did it start? Is that part of our common law tradition? Yes. Goes back centuries. What about the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures? The, Fourth Amendment. What about that? The right to remain silent. The Fifth Amendment. Freedom of religion. Where'd that come from? Well, it didn't come from Magna Carta. None of these things came from Magna Carta. Magna Carta is just another observation like our constitution of what our common law is as applied to government. And solid stepping stones in the history of our common law, but to not know those things is to be absolutely hamstrung. That's why I see this.
I've got conservative friends, or they think they are, they wanna be, that are out to alter the constitution. Change it. Yes. A real and I say, well, okay. The constitution allows for that because it's not the bible. It does have errors, and I can point out what I believe isn't correct in our constitution. But the constitution's admission that it is not the bible is the the provisions that are in it that says here's how you change it if you think you need to. Now that's all there. Yeah. But we should be very careful about that and do it for the right reasons. And I noticed the people that wanna do that don't understand anything about it, and they wanna do it for the wrong reasons. And they wanna change things that are not part of our common law tradition. They wanna change it into something else. They wanna have these constitutional
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conventions, and what they don't realize is that opens that up for both ways. Oh, they and they wanna do that. See? I know. Yeah. And and they're they don't have the power and influence that the money powers do. I'll tell you.
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I'll tell you. I look at I look at all of the changes and the the amendments, for example, and you get past the bill of rights, those 10 amendments. I don't know. I don't see anything there that's worth much anything that we really needed at all. Even the one that says we're not to have slavery, that was taken care of itself. We didn't need to do that. The one that says that women have the right to vote, if there was gonna be a correction there, that's a state matter, not a federal matter. As we learned we should have learned when Trump the election was stolen when Trump ran for president. We said, well, the problem here is the feds are stepping in trying to dictate to the states their election laws.
We didn't need any of that. Our common law tradition will take care of that. But if you try to do it in one fell swoop in a draconian way, like amend amending the constitution, then there's never any good comes from that. The beauty of our common law is that it it steps forward sure sure footedly sure footedly. And the only way to be sure footed, you're walking through a minefield. That means you go slow. You don't go fast.
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Yeah. You can't have something poking the ground in front of you too. What's that? You better have some kind of implement that's poke in the ground in front of you too. Well, yeah, that's what I say, of course. When you go slow, that's what you'll have. That's right. I agree. I don't know what else you've heard. There's a lot of stuff going on, Brent, on on the election. They're trying Trump's trying to get us to paper ballots. They're trying to outlaw machines. They've gone through one county in Texas. They found 2,500 illegal, voters on the on the rolls, and and they're trying to go across the whole country with that and trying to get to a point where we got paper ballots. Yeah. Larry, go ahead.
[01:53:53] Unknown:
Yeah. You brought up the gag order. So, Candace has already she broke her silence with a, an ex post, and she said that she's not gonna abide by it. And then, that was a couple of days ago. And, apparently, she when she said she was going on a ten day, you know, holiday, you know, morning for a friend
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Sabbatical.
[01:54:15] Unknown:
Yeah. So it was probably ten business days because she left on a Friday. She only does business Monday through Friday with her podcast. So she said she's gonna be back Monday with some very, very sobering information.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
Damn. I told you. Soon as she gets back a couple of days and the Indians get away from the wagons, brace yourself. I it just appear everything out there appears that Israel assassinated this guy, and it's all turning on him. K? Couldn't happen to a better bunch. Who else has got something here at the end of the show? Is that Rick? Is that Rick?
[01:54:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I heard last weekend that, Trump instructed his head of DOJ, I forget her name, started firing federal prosecutors that refused to bring charges against all these
[01:55:08] Unknown:
government officials, criminals Right. And whatnot. Did you hear anything about that? Well, I I I would love to see that. I hope that's the case. I did hear a blip this morning that the mortgage fraud against Schiff, the senator from California, is is, being slow walked, of course. But they have knows this. They've indicted Leticia James. They're looking at Fannie, what's her name in Atlanta. They're trying to go after Jack Smith's, license, and, they they got actions ago about to indict Brennan. We we've got John Bolton. We talked about that a couple weeks ago, 18 counts. There he's starting to the heads are starting to roll a little bit, I hope.
Brent.
[01:55:56] Unknown:
Brent, maybe. There you go. Yeah. Maybe things well, thank you for looking at. I need permission.
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Brent? Okay. We're at the end of the program now.
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Is is that somebody talking in the background or something, or are we missing you or what? No. We've we've got an echo coming back from the free conference call, but, Brent, take a few seconds and talk about commonlawyer.com before we get out of here altogether.
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Harold Shame on us. There there's a Harold that has his mic unmuted that is having background noise. Okay. We'll mute you, Harold. I think Lisa can do that. Thank you. And thank you, Paul. Thank you, Paul. This is Brent. Brent Allen winters commonlawyer.com.
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Www.commonlawyer.com. Go to the website commonlawyer.com and join us for our law class at Winters Inn declaration of '76, not the constitution of The United States. The declaration of '70 '6 clause by clause and blow by blow, we're gonna go through it and show its organization. And that is the document, by the way, always published traditionally with our constitution of The United States because it breathes life into the dry bones of our constitution. Yeah. Very true. Real case and controversy. A commonlawyer.com and many other things that winterized version of the Bible, you can get there in digital form or hard copy and a whole lot of other books we've written and courses. And
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And if you don't have a church home, he's, I've got two hours on, p PSB, PBS over there, PSB, Patriot Soapbox on Sundays. So you might wanna check that out. You can get to it on the website.
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Yeah. Go to church with us. On Sunday morning, we're going through the books of Exodus and first Peter right now, clause by clause and blow by blow. That's my habit, clause by clause and blow by blow. We can't improve on the organization,
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so might as well follow it. Yeah. Well, we certainly appreciate you hanging out with us over here for a couple hours on a weekly basis, Brent. And you always bring us such interesting stuff and different perspectives and ways to look at all of this big life stuff in a different way, and we sure appreciate you.
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You you appreciate
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you and all the people that make it possible. I mean, if it weren't for some place for me to talk, I would probably
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Explode. Swell up and burst. Yeah. Yeah. I feel the same way. If I didn't have this group right here, who the hell am I gonna go talk to you down here about all this stuff? Not very many fluent in it. I heard you there, Iron Man. Be nice. What have you got?
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You don't have anything? Okay. I just I got yeah. I got dropped. I got dropped by, your staff. But, anyway, what I wanted to say Staff. What I wanted to say is there's no such thing as too much of a good thing. I would argue that there's no such thing as too much of a good thing
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and that there's no such thing as too much of a great thing. You said everything in moderation. No. Well, I think that's a general rule. I think there's a general rule there that supplies, and there are certainly exceptions to it, I'd imagine.
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Let's discuss this. For example, love the lord thy god with thy, what what comes after that, Brent? Love the lord thy god with their with with your your entire heart and soul and see. So that's you can't get too much love of god. See? And there are other things you can't get too much of. You can't get too much love of of of a, fascinating woman. You can't get too
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Oh, I don't know about that. I think you're going a little farther. I think you're I think you're going over the line right there.
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Because you're talking about idolatry at that point. You can't get too much of God. That's true. But too much he's the creator, but a created thing like a man or a woman or some other inanimate object or an animal. No. You can get too much of that, clearly.
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Okay. Brent, you're already at lunch. I can tell. That's right. Well, see, I don't have the I don't have missus Brent fixing things for me and bringing them to me. So I have to do all those things myself, and my stomach is telling me I need to get going on it. Yes. Quick, Mara.
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Yeah. The judge is, Tony f Graf, g r a f, junior. And, he was appointed to the fourth district court in May 2025 by governor Spencer Cox there in Utah, Juab, Millard, Utah, and, Wasatch County. State judge.
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It's a state judge that's doing this. How ridiculous. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, remember, May is when the Turning Point rented out the stadium where they and they rented it for September 21 when they held the memorial.
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Yeah. Do you know I think I heard that a 120 colleges, Brent, have applied to have chapters of, Charlie Kirk's organization since he got assassinated. It's making it grow like crazy.
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Yeah.
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So for whatever that's worth. Well, anybody else got anything for me? It doesn't sound like it. Well, we'll be back tomorrow, of course. And, we'll look for you if you're there. And if not, you can go visit Brent. He's opposite me tomorrow. You can go visit him, or you can do whatever you're gonna do on the weekend. But we'll be back tomorrow for the Saturday edition. Brent, thank you so much. Always a pleasure. And, I just, I was so I'm so fortunate that our paths crossed so long ago and that we've been able to continue this wonderful relationship and and and and to introduce you to my audience. And, we just really appreciate it, buddy.
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Thank you, Roger. Appreciate you too. Otherwise, I couldn't be here. And all of you folk that listen and the ones that contribute, we appreciate it all. It helps me understand what I well, what what I could say or what you're thinking, what I need to say, what I think I need to say, and
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that help that's helpful to me and my ability to try to get my points across. Well, you know, it's like this to me is a great fulfillment. I've never had my life with so much purpose before. And the the the the feedback loop of being on this platform and having all these good wonderful people and these great discussions in-depth into things that are so very important, is just a wonderful fulfillment for me. So I finally feel like I'm doing something God meant for me to do. Okay? Rather than just chase chase dollars. Here's a thought, Brent. Have you ever seen that picture? I'm not sure which Rothschild it was over eighteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds maybe. They had a zoo. He was loved animals. He has his own zoo, and he had a Galapagos turtle.
Uh-huh. Have you ever seen a picture of him sitting on top of that turtle with a stick with a piece of lettuce out in front of it, in front of that Galapagos turtle's nose? Have you ever seen that? I think I have seen that on the Internet, Roger. Isn't that an illustration of the system? Yeah. Isn't that a perfect illustration of the system? Uh-huh. Absolutely. Unbelievable. So it just hit me the other day. I saw that picture years ago. Came to my mind. I thought, holy smokes. It's right there. He's he's sticking it right in your face. Yikes.
Alright. See you all on Saturday. Have a great day. Ciao. Love you, Brent and others. Bye.
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Quick comment on the, judge in the district Fourth District. He did say that all those 3,000 witnesses had to be identified before the gag order would be able to be enforced.
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Anybody, hear anything out there around all on YouTube or amongst different military communities and stuff about the invocation of the continuity of government, especially under the current administration.
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I did a show on that. I
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well, you did a show on it, how long ago?
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Couple weeks.
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Okay. That was probably was that was that after or before, you, heard, Derek Johnson, talking about it. They're trying to give an explanation on why all this this insanity that crazy stuff is going on that makes you scratch your head on whether you're being totally, you know, deceived or you gotta be, quote, in the know to know what's going on, really?
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Well, yeah, that was. Derek Derek Johnson is, very fluent in that area. I don't know what all that background noise is, but
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Yeah. Hold up. Yeah. He was he was saying that, all all of this all of this stuff that's going on is is just, basically, a a theater act, a show. And the basically, the I think the continuity of government is, sounds like the, president Trump is the war president that utilized and took all the things that the, neocons and the democrats had implemented years ago, and he's basically using that against them. But to do so, a lot of the, you know, president Trump was always saying, you're fake news. You're fake news. So, it very well it very well could be. And he and he said that there's even actors on that stage that we see on mainstream TV that are, actually on Trump's side, but they're being utilized to draw out more of the, the enemy.
So
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Right.
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So I'm I'm, I'm curious, though, where, I haven't had a chance to listen to what, Ron Paul had been saying about any of this. But, I I think there there are concerns within the patriotic community that, think, well, what if it's literally a a psyop where it can be utilized, in the negative? So in other words, remember, we we've always been told that, you got you got an eagle and you got the left wing and the right wing, but they're all part of the same, system. And it sounds like president Trump is trying to bring back the I hope that he's trying to bring back the, as they used to say, du jour, the du jour, American republic or constitutional republic with its original intent.
Whereas we're so we've gone so far almost off the cliff where we're we're getting ready to go off the cliff financially and maybe maybe more ways than one. It it just it's kinda hard to really think of how this this is what the remedy is gonna be.
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Well, all of this is ongoing, and, Stephen Miller, you know, came forward, one of the newscasts. I played a clip from Matt Kim's, YouTube that someone had sent me. And it's, he freezes after he says, about Trump winning another case and, because he has plenary authority. And they they were making jokes that, Matt and his friend, what's his name? Something Saddington. They're both Korean, I guess. But, you know, of course, they're using the f word all over the place, so I tried not to have that air too much. There were a couple times, but, you know, that he, he said the quiet part out loud.
But I can't help but wonder if it wasn't maybe staged that way too to some extent to, you know, blatantly put it out there in front of all of us that, you know, wanna be gullible. And, you know, now how is he gonna use that power? Right? So it's all ongoing. Fascinating time to be alive. That's for sure.
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Well, I have a question about do we do we need the Venezuelan oil to continue the government, you know, the, top Navy guy who operates in that area in Venezuela just resigned. And, I guess he didn't wanna play along with whatever was going on down there. So it's very interesting. I would agree. But there's definitely psychological operations going all over the world, not just here.
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Yeah. It's the Luciferian Brotherhood. Actually, beyond all of it, the, ties all of the nastiness together. Yeah.
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What was Dick Cheney's code name in secret service? I can get what it was, but it was appropriate, I'd say.
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Yeah. Well, Hildebeast was evergreen. And what did we see? The evergreen, container getting stuck for some time. And, you know, if you look into those containers, go back with Belgium in the eighties and the all the stuff they're doing with children then, and they park the ship at the end of the wharf because it's so much stench coming from it. And, so this one reporter was saying, you know, dress like a dockworker and go in there in the local and, you know, get familiar and friendly and, find out more what's going on. And and, some of these containers would have, you know, full of children in cages and stuff. And, they'd have 40% spoilage, which they liked because of the the other 60% very easy to handle.
Well, it was death.
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Wasn't, w's code name turd blossom?
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No. That was, that was, what's his face? His green
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Rove?
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Yeah. Karl Rove, and and that's what w called him. That was his nickname because of the Okay. Kinda horrible, circumstances he grew up in. Chaney's was Angler. Angler? Okay.
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Thank you, Lisa.
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Yeah. Karl Rove was the one that, got them to change from, Operation Iraqi Liberation to Operation Iraqi Freedom, or he was credited with that because, of course, that acronym is oil. Operation Iraqi Liberation. A little too much in your face.
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We create reality.
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The hell they do. They manipulate there's there's one creator. They manipulate. Yes, ma'am. Hey, Mark. Did you say the other day that Sharon Tate was not killed? Right. Mhmm. Miles w matthews dot com slash tate dot pdf.
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Okay. But that other couple before the man before that Karen Tate before that Before that. Karen Tate story with man.
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The couple the couple It's involved. It's it's about Manson. It's about the whole thing in that Yeah. That PDF. Okay. Yeah.
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Manson was involved with that couple beforehand. Okay. Thank you.
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Wasn't Satanism apparently, associated with that whole murder back in, what was it, 6068 or something? What was that guy's name? Anton LaVey, the Church of Satan in LA, Jane Mansfield.
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Yeah. Her wig came off when they were in the wreck. It wasn't her head that came off. But yeah. And his real name is, Howard Stanton Levy. He's a Jew. But, of course, he's a brand of Satanism spread all over. And people have made the, observation that Taylor Swift looks like his daughter.
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Right. So then what about or, correction. What about, Jay Mansfield then? Did what what did you say? Did she she did not,
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get in that car accident? Or Oh, yeah. She was in the accident, but they you know, the photographs, they tried to say her head says she was decapitated, but it was her wig that came off.
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Okay. But she did but she did die in a car accident. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. And then and then Sharon Kate did or did not?
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Nope. Miles w matthews dot com slash kate dot pdf. Read all about it. Took plenty of pictures.
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So well, then if that's the case, then it sounds like Shakespeare's The World is a Stage, and we're all actors in it might be making more sense now.
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Yeah. And and Shakespeare, that might have been a consortium. Actually, that was the name of a glove maker. And what a great name for a glove maker. Right? Shakespeare. You're protecting your hand with the gloves. Right? Very well very well may have been Edward Duveer, who was awarded the court. Because you remember, somebody died to the according to, you know, from the black death, quote, unquote, which was really Jews poisoning water all over Europe. Yeah. So, but he always had to play within a play. You know?
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So so let me get this straight. I never heard that one before, the poisoning the well,
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basically. Right? You never heard about the you never heard about the Jews poisoning the wells in Europe? Did you hear Netanyahu, Malakovsky, complaining that they're blamed for that? They're rightfully blamed for that. And they were held to account in, Saint Valentine's in 1348. And you'll find it'll say 1349 now, but maybe there was more than one. They claimed to have been a massacre and, where a lot of Jews were killed because of it. And so you'll find, Saint Valentine's massacres, since then, including, six hundred and seventieth anniversary that was part of
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what? I'm sorry. What was the location of the Saint Valentine's Massacre?
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I'm not sure where that took took place. I forget. But you could look it up.
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Yeah. Because isn't there is there the one with or something?
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What was that? I'm sorry.
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Wasn't there wasn't there a Saint Valentine's massacre without Al Capone, eliminating seven guys in go back in the day?
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And Meyer Lansky possessed by a demon. And what they did, they sat across the, alleyway in another garage and listened, while the, you know, the police and different ones were killed. Yeah. But that was another and so was, 1945. Look what they did to Dresden.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. That that was, that was the British. Right? And the American eighth Air Force?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. But who was it done for? That was a holocaust. That's you know, I did just don't choose some orders. Now people do their research. I get some email from the one guy that called in, and he, after reading something, was convinced that the Jews are, Jeff Pools of, you know, these other Vatican and everything else. Well, they, you know, infiltrated the Vatican from the beginning. It wasn't Simon Peter. It was Simon Majus that really the Catholic church is based on.
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Yeah. I I heard that one. Simon the sorcerer.
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Mhmm. Yeah. And if you ever you know, like, sometimes I would catch if I'm up late and it's the wee hours and it's already, like, Easter time over there, and you'd have people lined up around the wall going into the Vatican for the big celebration. And then with the Divock lockdown, you could see how it looked like it was taken from a satanic practice. You know, it's a satanic ritual. You know? Because they had a few people and they're six feet apart, and it's dark, few candles, and it's just spooky. Yeah. What's not Christ is the antichrist. Oh, glory to him. If you're not, well, guess what?
And, selfishness is, satanism is what Patio said. And they never do selfishness. It's satanism.
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You know? The He wasn't that built?
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Yeah. Kinda. But, I don't trust him either. He tries to act all innocent and stuff now, but he keeps all his satanic trinkets around still, apparently.
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Who's that?
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Pacio. Mark Pacio, where the naming goes by.
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Who? Well,
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I'm not sure who that is. Well, you're just as well off then, or you can look into it.
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Because I I I heard that well, it kinda, like, looked like Jay z. I saw him with a shirt that said do it thy wilt, and I think it had Anton LaVey picture.
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Yeah. Well, that's a Crowley saying, Aleister Crowley.
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Yeah. Aleister Crowley. So I don't know if it's true or not, but supposedly, after Rudolf Hess had flown over to England to try to try to negotiate with the, I guess, the king at that time or the parliament, they, never let Rudolf Hess, ever ever, talk to, and do any negotiations. They just did everything to shut him up, and that's why they put him in Spandau after, you know, the Nuremberg trials. And then he was never I don't think he was ever interviewed. They tried to keep him keep his mouth you know, they silenced him. Mhmm. Yep.
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We didn't know that every you know, both world wars were, about Germany because they are so diligent and, cooperative with each other, and, they were Christian. And Mhmm. Didn't have that. And, so Brent's talking Brent Winter's talking about them being the wealthiest. He's seen the statistics. Well, there's a saying, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. Who wrote the statistics? The ones that really have the wealth? You know? I'm just saying I'm just saying. There's not not much to be trusted.
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Lies, damn lies are under statistics. And and Brent will quote statistics. Right?
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Right. Right. But we we have this tendency to think, oh, you know, we know they lie, but it's when they're speaking, it's not necessarily what's written. It's not numbers. No. It's all lies. Like the CDC, for instance. Right? They said there was, like, three hundred ninety three thousand flu cases a year. Well, people don't report flu to the doctor. They stay home and get better over a couple days, And doctors don't report flu to the CDC. It's all made up. And that came became very clear during the devoque. Right? Oh, no flu. Just devoque. They're just lying.
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They're just, you know Job just job justifications, I guess.
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What's that?
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Job justifications.
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Oh, yeah. Alright. Well, you remember Thompson. Right? William Thompson and Brian Hooker got him to to come out and confess kind of, what they were doing with the the MMR shots is is to get him in, especially in black boys, but in all the children before they were three years old because that's when it could do the most damage. Yeah. Good chance of making him autistic. And then, of course, he kind of rebuked everything, and they destroyed all the records. And he continued to work at CDC, and Julie Gerberding went on to, work for, I think it was Pfizer, one of them. You know, she was the head of CDC.
I mean, that vaccine vaccine part or whatever. Yeah. So they're all crooked, and it's weird because right at the same time, that was 2014, I believe. And, that's when traffic can't there was a fellow named also named Thompson, but he didn't have the p in the name. His name was, I wanna say Patrick, but it's probably something else. But he's from Mercer, Pennsylvania, and he was there at the farm to look at equipment. And so traffic can't comes back in and goes in, park his tractor in where he usually parked it apparently. And, there was a scraper there that threw him through the tray tractor upside down and him under it. How did he get like that?
Well, this, Thompson didn't wanna be, you know, oh, no. You know, he had the phone, so he called for help. And he was the only witness and and you only find him in one report. He didn't oh, no. You know? They're just a little little too little too curious. You know?
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Well yeah.
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They've made another political party, and it would have really gained steam, I'm sure. You know? So
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he had a CBS
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was, just well, yesterday, they were talking about they were talking about, they were interviewing, I don't know, five people or so from different, quote, backgrounds, and they were all basically, people that were disappointed in what, you know, the whole political system in The United States. And they were talking about, what are the chances and what would it be what would everybody's opinion be about a third party? And, I guess they discussed a little bit about, you know, why a third party would never work. But then, also, I I thought that supposedly George Washington in his farewell address had mentioned something about that whole party concept was damaging it was going to be damaging if it it was ever implemented in in to the country at a later date. So I don't know if that's some kind of a folklore.
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That's why it was kept. If you have two parties, you have the most friction. In Germany, they had at least 32 parties before the, regime got in and 33 and made it one party. So if you have that much true diversity, you're not gonna have agreement to go to war or to make to force people to pay all these taxes. That's why they wanted it.
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So do you think Germany well, I I can't I don't think anybody wants to go to war. I don't think actually, I don't even think Germans the Germans are probably just so No. They're
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Look at look at, Hitler's, peaceplans.com. Peaceplans.com. That's by Mark Elsas. That's a really good page. Check that out. Yeah. All these peace proposals. And, you know, remember, Germany was only half the size of Texas.
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Oh, I know. I know. I I was stationed over there. So and Oh, wow. I I looked into the I was fascinated with World War two, and I had an opportunity to have conversations with lots of veterans. And, I accidentally mistakenly I thought he was a German, and I I asked him and and the little German that I know, I I said, And he he looked at me, and he's like, yeah. And I I got all excited, and I said, well, And he looked at me. He said, I was I was with this I think he said the second Russian shock army, and I just like I just like, bloop.
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Yeah. They're one of the conquerors. Right?
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Yeah. He he yeah. He he and and he he he he shook he shook his head because he he probably saw me blush. Right? And, shook his head and looked at me and said, hey. He said, no. It's so it's he said it's okay. He said it's okay. He said, look. Many this came right straight from this veteran, a Russian veteran. He's he told me that we hated Joseph Stalin so much. We hated him, and we were hoping that the Americans would have kept on going because we would have thrown our weapons down. We would not have fought against the Americans because that's that's what they were a lot of people were hoping that the Germans, when they had gone in, that they would have, you know, they wouldn't have started, I guess, with the Einsatzgruppen or, you know, whoever coming behind and, you know, eliminating lots of people. But, he told me he said, like, no. We we wouldn't have fought the Americans. We we we hated Stalin.
So that was a validation right there.
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So so many of the things we're told are just lies. You know? Yeah.
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But, So I you know, the so I, there was one guy there was one German guy that I I I used to talk to all the time, and he he was a he was a German, soldier in the Battle of, Saint Mary Lygles where the I think it was a a hundred and first dropped in on the, the the the church town, and the one the one American paratrooper got hung up in the clock clock tower. He was a he was a German in that battle, and I remember him saying one time, I mean, he he was like he said if we killed he said if we killed all the Jews, then where'd they all come from after the war?
Because he said they're they're they're all over the place. And, I even asked, I even asked an American. He was an American military guy, and he he he told me that he was he was in a lot of concentration camps. He was being bounced around, all over the place, and he said he, you know, he he escaped a few times. He got caught, and but he said he was a, you know, he was a young kid. But, I asked him. I said, well I said, Bruno, I said, if if if the Germans did all this horrible stuff, then why would you wanna why why are you living in Germany if you know, I would think that you'd be heading to another country that that would, you know, like Israel or heading somewhere else to to to live. And he said, look. He said he said, we Jews weren't the only ones in in the concentration
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camps. There were all kinds of people in the concentration camps. Lots of Germans in the concentration camps. Yeah. It was they were against communism, and, they would do their time and be released often too. So yeah.
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So so that was a that was a that was an interesting, statement from him. And then, there was a number there was another German, German that actually was a last it was the last German soldier that, I had a conversation with before I left Germany, and he used to he used to I think he was coming from an old folks' home. He was just doing a, like, a daily walk. And, across the street from me was one of these little putt putt places, but I stopped it one day, and I, you know, I I said the same thing, you know, and he said, yeah. Yeah. And, I said, division.
He's and he said, the division. And I'm like, wow. Oh, oh, okay. Cool. And, you know, I I shook his hand, and so the next time next time I I think it was a couple days later, he he came by. And I I grabbed this book that I had in my room, and it was it was a book about the. And, I walked up, and I showed it to him, and he's like and then he started speaking English. He's like, where did you get this? And I'm like I told him I said, look. I don't know if you know this or not, but the the the German Wehrmacht is is famous for their, land warfare, methodology, so to say. We the Americans copied it, and, he was stumbling through the book. And he's like he's like, that was that's my commander there, in this photograph.
And this this commander of his he was an officer, so he he was, he was up in the, you know, higher echelons of the, Giberge, your second division. And he, when I when I read the caption, I'm like, yeah. I remember him. I think he got, yeah, he got killed in Yugoslavia in an airplane crash. But, you know, I asked him. I said, well, I said, tell me about, you know, tell me about your experience. Where where were you when the war ended? And he told me he said, I was, working. We were operating, the second was operating in the, French Alps, and we surrendered in the French Alps.
And he said because of the, what was it, the I wanna call it operation teal hall, or part of that. The Turan, when they when the three amigos got together, in Turan, I think they were deciding how they were gonna divide up the axis countries after the war. And, anyway, he he's made the statement that anybody that was any division or unit that fought on the Eastern Front, it was negotiated that they had to, be sent over to the Russians, be be turned over as prisoners to the Russians. And I think that was Operation Keelhaul.
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Yeah. The Russian refugees and everybody, they were sending them over there for they knew they would be killed.
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Right. Especially Ukrainians and Russians and, you know, that were ones that, I guess, kinda slipped through the cracks. And,
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Have you heard Michael Gatti talking about Patton and, when they found out, I forget what the, anyway, they were sending the all these, technical, US soldiers to, Siberia. Or I think it was called Moscow bound. Moscow Bound or whatever. Yeah. So For what? To to do work there, and then they'd eventually be killed. And, there were, like, 20,000. And and Patton said he was he had had it out with Eisenhower on a train platform, and he was saying he was gonna take Germans and, put them in American uniforms and send them in to bring those guys back.
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And Yeah. I had one I had one of those uniforms, actually.
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Oh, wow. So he was dead shortly after. You know?
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It was, alright. Now now did you you said did you say Germans sending Germans to Moscow, or did you say Americans to Moscow?
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Well, they had already taken the the, they had the, Moscow bound and took 20,000 Americans, But they, I don't think it was allied forces, Americans, specifically. And, and so Patton said he was gonna put American uniforms on Germans and send them in to get these guys out.
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Oh, okay. So did the so did they eventually
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they did get to do it. He died soon after.
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Right. Yeah. He he he I think I personally think he got assassinated. But Of course. He was assassinated. Yes. Yes. He was killed. Yeah. And that, what was that? There was a really cool movie that was, made in the seventies. What was the name of that movie? It was really good. It was, it it had to do with the, gold.
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I don't believe it. You have two movies anyway, but
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yeah. But, yeah, it was it was a it was a good movie. So so few good movies. Yeah. Yeah. All good movies. Screw them.
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Manheim.
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But it it was a it was a good good movie because, basically, it was it it almost validated, when I was when I was in a I was in a place, I was I was sitting in this, sandwich shop in the old first Kabeerjager mountain troops, their barracks there, and it was it was turned into a, like, a a store. Armed forces, you know, where you get your your supplies and stuff. But, anyway, I'm sitting in I'm sitting in this room with the first American, sergeant. He was a military police sergeant. I think he was with the tenth armored division. And, he said that in this room we're sitting in right now, there was stacked almost to the ceiling bars of gold.
And he's and he said that there was a a a convoy a small convoy of, American, Doosan half trucks that showed up. And it was a it was a either a full bird colonel or a light colonel. But, anyway, he said that we've we've come to pick up the, we've come to pick up the, you know, the gold. And, he said he had the he said he had all the proper paperwork. So these guys loaded up the the addition hatch, with with his gold, and they took off. You know? And they're they're thinking that, you know, whatever goes on, you know, above, you know, your your pay grade, you know, you just have all in orders. But, yeah, they released the gold there out of that room.
And come to find out, supposedly, it was actually a an SS officer that was impersonating an American officer that had gone gone and collected that gold. And that's where it disappeared from. So I don't know if I don't know how true it all is, but that's what I was told by, an American soldier that was from the tenth mountain tenth, armored division that that, yeah, that gold was in that room we were sitting in. Now since then, they tore that building down, and I'm extremely upset because they did it because, it was a beautiful building. And, it just seems like, yeah, they have a habit of, I guess, over the last twenty five years or thirty years now, they've been they've been tearing down these these structures that literally were built to last a thousand years.
And, yeah, they've they have to bring a wrecking ball out, and it takes them a long time to tear these structures down because they're they're they were built so well. You know, you you know, soldiers could fight out of them. You know? But, yeah, that that's a that was a really interesting story. I got to hear from a a veteran in, in the town that I was, stationed in at that time.
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Yeah. Very interesting. Thanks thanks for sharing.
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And going back to that going back to the last German that I talked to, yeah, he he he turned out to be an officer in the second Gebirjager. And when he started, you know, telling me about what happened after they were they were they surrendered in the French Alps, his unit was put on trains and were sent to Russian POW camps. And he he had tears starting to come down his eyes. And he said, I spent seven years in a gulag, and I I witnessed a lot of my comrades die, work to death, starve to death. It was a you know, he he said it was horrible.
And I remember telling him, well, I'm I'm I'm sorry I didn't mean to invoke, you know, painful experiences, but I know now. You know? I got to hear it firsthand. And I was one of the I was one of the people that used to seek out just talking to veterans. And that it didn't matter what side of the fence they were on. But literally, when I when I talked to that, that soldier in Frankfurt that was, in the Russian shock army, and he told me how much they hated Stalin, that vilified, you know, a lot of things that I had read and heard from. And then and then, actually, I talked I played I played, and I used to drink I used to drink beer and play play chess with a former KGB officer.
And, I never beat the guy in chess, but then I never I never was a good chess player. But, he told me that his, I think he said it was his it was either his father or his grandfather. The reason why he he told me he hated Joseph Stalin, and, he he wouldn't have you know, he was probably about my age, but he he said that, our village hated Joseph Stalin because, and this guy was this guy was kinda like, what do you call it? He was from, not Chitania, but he was from one of those, southern, Russian countries. One of the Stan, Uzbekistan. I think he was from there. But, anyway, he was telling me that, he was saying that Joseph Stalin came into their village, and anybody that was over the age of, like, 14 was was, put up against the wall and shot.
And he said that Joseph Stalin killed his killed, I guess, it would have been been his grandfather. But he, he said, we hated Joseph Stalin. So that was another validation
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of Yeah. You know, a good movie, it's, Russian, has subtitles, but it's, from '93. I I used to have the independent film channel. You know, that was my one thing on the eight foot dish we had, and the rest of the family had their their things. But that was, like, really cheap and, they had so many interesting things. But, anyway, I think came out in '93. It's called Burnt by the Sun. Burnt by the Sun. And, you know, you don't see Stalin in it. You do see where they're raising a, you know, a thing of him, but it just shows how how brutal the whole thing was. And it went on over time and just, you know, and the different personalities, how they you know, the roles they played and stuff.
It's it's it's entered really on a family and and you just have to see it. You probably enjoy it. Imagine. And I have Russian friends and and, you know, some back there in New Jersey and, I don't know I don't know if they even watched it, but, it just reminded me of them. You know? I'm are you basically, like like all of us, we just wanna live our lives and be left alone. You know? Not brought into this crazy satanic blood sacrifices.
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Well, that's I guess that's validation also about how Jesus said he said that my kingdom of is not a rich world.
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Exactly. He said if it were, they would have fought for me. Yeah.
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And that's why listen. Yeah. Why Judas didn't understand. Judas Judas was expecting Jesus to be in the physical Yeah. As a as a king and a warrior to to run out the Romans.
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And he was he was the kind of Jew we would call, like, synagogue of Satan. He and Christ knew he had a demon. And, Satan himself entered him there at the last, you know, when he went when they were in the upper room and he went to to, get the little ecclesia together to meet in Gethsemane. But but, he was the one that, he was the bag man. He held the money too. You know? Pretty interesting. Yeah. But it all but it all sounded like he was,
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you know like you said, he,
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he had a spirit or something in him. Well, he did, and Christ did that. He knew. And he was the only one from down in Judah. The others were all up, you know, in the North from Galilee.
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Yeah. But I I I get the impression that that that Judas didn't I don't think it it sounds like to me that he didn't have any ill, he, I don't think he had any ill will towards Jesus. He was just he was just up he was upset that, he was selfish and materialistic.
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Yes. He expected Christ to come in a physical way against the Romans.
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Right. Yeah. And he didn't he didn't comprehend or understand. And,
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he did going out and hanging himself. You know?
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Yeah.
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And, they went to give the money back too. And, of course, that was blood money now. So they threw it in with the, you know, the money for the, like, Potter's Field type thing. So yeah. Mass burial type. Yeah. It's been crooked all along, but there's only really two sides. Which one you on?
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Yeah. So yeah. Trying to remember. Yeah. There's so going going back to the whole German experience. Yeah. Europe is really, really beautiful, and I, I always I always used to tell the Germans. I'm like, well, I'm grateful that you folks rebuilt your country back to look like it had originally, been, to the best of, you know, your abilities and stuff because Europe is just stunningly beautiful. I mean, there's just something about being over there that just made you feel made me feel, anyway, made me feel like, like I was in Hawaii or or just being in a just be in a place you wanna be in because it's either a show aesthetically beautiful, you know, or, yeah, every I I didn't I hardly saw I hardly saw any violence when I was there. Thank goodness.
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Well, you know you know, Dresden too, in 1882, they had the first ever probably the only ever, this thing more recently with Carrie and the bunch was very small. But, about the Jewish problem? We had a big conference held in 1882 in Dresden. And, for sure, that's why they were, you know, holocausted in the on Saint Valentine's Day in '45. Went over a couple of days, actually. But, I mean, they left so few people alive that there weren't enough to bury the dead. You know?
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Yeah. So it sounds like they've they've done a lot of things on Saint Valentine's Day. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Thanks.
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It apparently goes back to, you know, the fourteenth century. And, you know, never forgive, never forget, never enough, their motto. Even Stephen Benun, who he comes forth with a lot of, being Jewish, Sephardic, and now Christian, comes forth with a lot of interesting things and how they were after the Armenians because, you know, that's why they killed them. Why they had that, because of some perceived, you know, where they dared come against them. And that's what's going on right here in this country. There's too many people waking up to the reality that, you know, they're trying to flex their muscle.
Mhmm.
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Oh, yeah. The actually, I think the first German soldier also that I ever talked to when I I got to Europe, I was up I think I was up on, I went on one of these little one of these little, tours. I think it was in '85, when I had just got to, to Germany, and I wound up going on a ski trip with some of the other, guys in my unit. And, when I was up on the mountain, I think it was in Austria, and I saw some I saw some people skiing with some old, I knew what it was. I I could tell it was old, SS camouflage, but I think it was in a maybe a modern modern version of her something. But anyway, I saw this I saw this guy skiing on one leg. Right? And I I stopped him. I, you know, I I talked to him briefly and I said, you know, I I also asked him if he was in the in the war, and he said he said, yeah. He's like, this I lost my leg in the war.
And he it turned out he was with the, SS division Nord. And, so I was you know, I shook his hand and, you know, said, you know, glad you made it. And, I think I might have got his address, but I don't think I ever I never replied to any of these folks. But, but, anyway, yeah, he, he was he was skiing on one leg, and I'm I'm thinking to myself, wow. That's really cool. And another and another German soldier that I, had known, he was 75 years old, and he was working in the in the in the kitchen. And I and I asked him, and I said, well, I said, Walter, every time every time I see you, you know, walking out on the street stuff, it it pains me because I can see the pain in your face, you know, every step you take.
And, I asked him, I said, what happened to you? And he said, well, he he said he was, he was in the Luftwaffe, and he was in a 88, anti aircraft unit. And I believe he said he was in the battle of Normandy. He was also, he was in Berlin he he was in Berlin defending Berlin at the end of the war, and he said that he'd caught a fragmentation grenade, which which, you know, badly badly, you know, wounded him in the leg. But and he was taken prisoner by the Russians. And he was him and the other Germans that were with him were utterly determined to get, you know, get away from the Russians and and try to somehow escape over into onto the, you know, to the American sector wherever they were.
And he was successful at doing that. He escaped the Russians. And, he said, I have to he said, it's important to me that you gotta keep on moving on. If when you stop, he said, that's when you your body starts deteriorating and breaking down, and then you die from lack of mobility. So even though I've got this, you know, injury that's with me to this day, I just gotta keep on moving on. You
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know? Yeah.
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I hope I hope god bless him. I hope Walter's still alive out there, but more than likely, I remember he was tell I remember he was telling me, twenty three years ago, I'm, well, it's twenty five years ago now. He said, I'm I'm 75 years old. Today's my birthday. And, he, yeah, that was twenty five years ago, so he'd be 100 now if he was still alive. I hope he is. But, yeah, he he, apparently, he came from, the Eastern part of Germany, and, he he said his parents owned a restaurant. And one, one day, he made some he made some bread, some fresh bread, and then he gave me some. And I was like, wow, Walter. This is delicious.
It was, it was it was bread that, he had made, and I'd never had bread with that literally had, pieces of bacon in it. Oh, wow. Yes. You know, yeah, pieces pieces of, soft bacon that was baked into the bread. It was really good. Oh my gosh. I'm like, Walter. Wow. That's fantastic. No wonder you no wonder you, you know, you were you said you worked in a restaurant, or your parents owned a restaurant. And, yeah, there's lots of people that I literally, every every German that I ever talked to, everybody. There was one German woman that she said she she had, like, five brothers, and she lost three of them on the Eastern Front. Yeah. There's there's been a there's been a lot of lot a lot of lot of Germans, literally everyone that I ever asked, they all said that they lost somebody in the war, whether it was a mother, father, or aunt, or uncle, or brother, or sister. You know?
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Yeah. I I had a couple German friends, and and they're still you know, I could, and they say time heals all wounds or whatever. But I was telling them how the Germans weren't at fault. And, you know, they were they they were so so sure that wasn't true. You know?
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Yeah. I try to tell him I don't I I I try to tell him it doesn't make any sense. Why why would we it didn't make any sense. Why would we side with Joseph Stalin for god's sake? He was the one that, was rumored to have caused that the Holodorum, in the Ukraine where Yeah. Where all those all the farmers and the small landowners were, you know, systematically
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You know, really dead. Murder.
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Yep. Real easy answers. Churchill was a Jew. Roosevelt was a Jew. Stalin was a Jew. And they were all communist.
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Right. Wow. And that's the thing. I was just thinking, you know, John Moore was on, with John b Wells last week. And and I wasn't I was sort of half listening. I was doing a couple other things and and in the chat room and stuff, but he kept saying communist. Right? This country has been communist since Lincoln.
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Now do you mean Jews in name only, or is that by blood?
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Certainly by blood. There's there's some that try to deny that, but if you dig into it, I mean, Churchill's mother was Jewish. Isn't that the definition? You know?
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I don't know. I I honestly, I Roosevelt's real name was road,
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Rosenfeld.
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Yeah. Rosenfeld or Rosenfeld. I forget one of those two. But yeah. So they were so they were out there changing their names back then because they knew that it would work in being elected.
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Oh, yeah. And Teddy Roosevelt. The same thing. Roosevelt. You know, he was related. And this is the thing you gotta look at is the bloodlines. You know, like right now, you can find where Trump's talking to a gaggle of reporters on on, Air Force One and, about buying Argentine beef because they're dying. You don't understand. He's like, I like the leader. Alright. Well, the leader is Javier Millet, whose real name is Milakowski, the same as Netanyahu. And the grandfather, Netanyahu's grandfather, Javier looks very much like him. Oh, and Javier had a nose job too.
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No. He did. What what he had probably had a hooked nose or something, Yes. He did. Yes. He did. There's pictures in it. But why?
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Greeks on Demand News, get the English articles. They they've got some really interesting stuff going on.
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Wow. Yeah. That's that's that's yeah. That's now but did didn't it didn't it appear hasn't it been said that how can anybody claim Jewish ancestry when all or supposedly all of the records of, that were being kept on Jewish ancestry were destroyed when the Romans, destroyed the temple in 8070, unless there were records that were,
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saved at, what, Alexandria or Yeah. But that is pretty much true. Yeah. And who destroyed the library at Alexandria? Poinc Faye. That's who. Yeah. All through time. This is the thing. Call them Jews or whatever you wanna call them, but they are the synagogue of Satan.
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You know? Those who call those who call themselves Jews but are not.
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There you go. And the whole word Jews is is a slur, but it's directed at the tribe of Judah. This is the other thing. We've got Benjamin and then the other 10 tribes in the North, and they are considered Gentiles, which just means nations. So good many of us are descended from them, but they are the enemy of that one little group. You know? And it's not that little. They they blend with everybody. They mix.
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The question is is there a Yiddish word for name stealers?
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Probably. I don't know what it is, but probably.
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What did you call it? Name
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Name stealers. Oh, okay. Cliff High likes to say that. Do you think that's his real name? No. He's a Jutu. And he is just oh, he was just so happy about the BC and the BCE nonsense. Right? And, that was few years ago, and that was troubling me. And the Holy Spirit, the breath of holiness gave me this little little thing to think about in my mind of, like, the fifties readers. Right? The little blonde haired boy, and he's trying to fix his little red wagon. Right? He's trying to put the wheel on it. And, Holy Spirit told me, the e stands for Christ eternal.
Not before current era or current era. You know? I mean, who decides this stuff? Well, ultimately, god does. Right? So, anyway, I was told it meant Christ eternal, so that's what I use. And he said that'll fix their little red wagon, but it what I was being shown was w a g g I n and being shown a split tongue. So anyhow, Christ eternal. But, the the thing with, Chris, Cliff High going back in 02/2008, and there was these things that went on with the altars out there on Jekyll Island and stuff. And, so that wasn't entirely their choice. You know? They tried to use the crisis, I'm sure. But, that whole, that whole monetary thing, I don't think I think that was brought down from above.
And, yeah. So, anyway, wherever I was going with that What's the what's
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the what's the contentious right now with with, the the listening audience out there on the, pressure to trump some fight against the, the banks and all that kind of stuff because it it kinda some of the stuff that I've been seeing on on YouTube and stuff It's kinda questionable unless, he's trying to, you know, get everybody on the same sheet of music and, hopefully, headed back to the du jour American, American way, so to say, of, of our our our former government government style that we've lost in, before the It's been rotten from the beginning.
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It's been rotten from the beginning. Get michaelgaddy.substack.com and get into what he's been digging into for decades, over four, close to five, I guess, now since he was, came out of no such agency and all the wiser for it. And, and you see there again, it's a spiritual thing. It's Christ or Antichrist. But, yeah, all the different things going on and he recognizes the psyop. But you have to also recognize that there's different fractions with different agendas. So it doesn't move along at an even pace in one direction. You know what I mean? It's, yeah, pretty interesting.
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Yeah. There was this, I can't remember what his name is, but, I keep on seeing his, his posts. He was a former, member of the a you know, the alphabet soup agency, and, apparently, he had passed away here a couple years ago of COVID. He was kinda overweight kinda guy, but, man, he was really he was really laying it down on, you know, what the, what the agenda is of Israel and how they're actually, you know, calling the shots,
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you know, via the You talked about Robert David Steele, perhaps?
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Is yeah. He he He did chubby cheeks. Yeah. Chubby cheeks, heavy set, mild you know? Yeah. Did he really die?
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Yeah. I think he did. I think they killed him. It's it's a good one.
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You know, with the I was thinking when when I was watching that stuff years ago, I'm like, oh my gosh, man. Dude, you better, you gotta be yeah. You you better be, in a place where they can't, you know, get to you. So, they sounds like they did get to him. But, yeah, he somebody's still releasing all of his his stuff that he used to say. I don't remember ever, watching him speaking so intensely about, you know, how our our government was literally taken over years ago.
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Like I said, it was from the beginning. This is what you have to understand. The constitution itself was illegal. It was a fraud. It was a coup. The law of the land was the articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, and the delegates were sent to Philadelphia to find ways to improve them. But there was a core group. The whole reason they were doing it was to overthrow it and get close to a monarchy, but with them in those monarchical positions.
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You mean So was
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so wasn't there so I, when I was listening to Derek Johnson's stuff, which was kind of intriguing, he he he brushed over it. But because he brought it up and I've never heard anybody, mention Marbury versus Madison. And he he was trying to I mean, it sounded like the justification for president Trump and the military doing what they're doing is that we're we're claiming and we're taking back everything that was taking taken from the original intent of the, the the, what do you call it, continental army, back when they were fighting against the British. And and, basically, he's saying that, yeah, we were infiltrated. And, that's why we're using their their tyranny and their rules and laws that have been implemented, you know, for probably since the creation of the the nation, back to get to the de jure state of he mentioned the declaration of independence more than I think he did the constitution.
But, that's what was kind of intriguing about what he was saying. He's saying we're using all these military. We're using because of the continuity of government.
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We, Laws laws and orders. Yeah. He's got it down pretty good, but I think he he probably so many people go back as if the constitution is the bedrock law. Well, neither it or the articles are. The bedrock law is the 10 commandments. And you hear Brent Winters today saying about safeguarding them, keeping them safe. Well, you know, I didn't wanna tune in, but how about the fourth one? I've talked to him about that one. He's, you know, him hauls around the edges about what's going on there, but very clearly said, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. And Glenn Ambort, you know, he's very brilliant guy. And he's like, wait a minute. That's the only one that says remember. And, you know, so, and it turns out we have this circus septum. Just like we have circadian rhythm day and night, we have this seventh day, the Sabbath, not any day, the seventh day as the day of rest. And that's in us, and it's in many other creatures.
You know? Samuel sent me the thing about the beavers, and I put some of that on air. And, but it's just another fascinating thing to find out about, you know, and that I think when I'm shown these things to learn about that, I need to share them on air, and you'll have people pushing back about all different stuff. But at least I'm getting it out there. This is what I think I need to do.
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And, so what's so the justification of Sunday being the first day of the week. Correct? And I, you know, I remember hearing songs in church about the first day of the week and
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Right. But see, in in the in the Bible, they they took, like, six they took, like, six times where it says Shabbat out of the 98 and arbitrarily put in first day of the week. And so it was over time, they slid this in and they have resurrection day and three days and three nights, he was in the tomb. Well, that's not true either. And he told us. He said, the only example I'll give you is Jonah. Jonah was alive inside the whale, inside the belly of the beast. And, so the three days started with Judas, you know, playing Judas, and that was earlier in the week. And you get the three the three full days, and then he's only in there a few hours. Christ's only in the tomb a few hours, and you have that the, shroud of turn to to to basically back up, you know, and blasted out of there
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quite literally. Think the shroud of turn is legit?
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It seems to be because, the amount of energy and the short amount of time that it was used is, you know, we can't do that. I mean, we can bare barely figure out what was done and how much time it took, you know, which was like a forty billionth of a second, right, with more,
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Sure. Okay. I I I got you. I I I can believe it. Okay?
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Yeah. But it's Sabbath. He wouldn't he wouldn't have resurrected on Sunday. It's the holy Sabbath. He was only in there a few hours, and he resurrected on Sabbath. See, this is
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you know, this is So what day did he get put what day did he get put in in the
[03:17:21] Unknown:
Friday night. Friday after they killed him, you know, after he died. Friday night. Okay. Yeah. So early Sabbath morning is is when he, he was only in there a few hours, you know, not three days. You know, that's why he gave that example, that one and only example of Jonah because he was alive. And Christ was virtually in the belly of the beast where they were torturing him and stuff. You hear Michael Gaddy talk about being in the belly of the beast working for no such agency. Right? So it's a little hard to
[03:17:53] Unknown:
Wasn't wasn't Jesus one after he was after he died, supposedly, he went down to the gates of hell and opened up the he had the key, and he opened up the gates of hell. And he ministered to the people who had, died before he had come along, but were believers under the old law.
[03:18:19] Unknown:
And Yeah. And and, you know, that's, very well could be probably true, but in what kind of dimension, what kind of time space would that take place? It doesn't have to take place over our three days. Right? You know? So, you know, could be extraneous. Another time warp type thing. You know, we don't know. It's when when you're all powerful and know everything and are present everywhere all the time.
[03:18:48] Unknown:
And then that's more than plenary authority. Yeah. I remember it was either a Tuesday or Wednesday. I went to some church celebration of, you know, the I I I wanna say it was Easter. And, but it was on a it was either a Tuesday night or a Wednesday night. I can't remember. But when I thought about it, I'm like, maybe that would validate that some people out there think that, well, the three days would have, you know, made him, you know, validate the Saturday. But we but you're saying it was it, it doesn't have to be literally three days. He could have been,
[03:19:36] Unknown:
killed on that Friday. The three days started earlier. The three days started when Judas went and, you know, made the arrangements with the parasites.
[03:19:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Palm what was it? Palm sun? Didn't Palm Sunday have something to do with this also? Palm Sunday.
[03:19:52] Unknown:
Well, that's where Palm Sunday comes from. They threw down all these palms for him to ride, and he told them where to go find the the, donkey pole and, for him to ride on. So he rode triumphantly into, Jerusalem on this, donkey, and they were throwing down their coats and palm branches. And, yes, so that's where that comes from. But, just before that, I guess it was I don't think it was after, is when he cleansed the temple for the second time. You know, we're always told there's just one time, but John, second chapter, was the first time right after his first miracle. And, I was gonna bring that up, but I thought, you know, we had enough stuff on the plate today. So but, and then in Mark 11, you read where, you know, just a few days before he was crucified, he did it again.
You know, that's why they really hated him. Don't mess with that mammon. They basically chased God out of his own temple. I mean, not really. He left anyway, but, they made it a den of thieves. And that was the, the scripture, points that my daddy sent me where it says den of thieves. Yeah. But it only says about him actually chasing them out twice. Not every time it says den of thieves. So but I heard Jay Vernon McGee in a in a sermon from back in the seventies that was playing. He said that and then I'm like, wait a minute. I read that. I didn't get that. You know, it's when you're just reading the Bible, it's, you know, But you pinpoint the timeline, and sure enough, he did it twice.
At least twice that's recorded. Maybe did it more. So go get our b n's t shirt. No Israel without Jesus. Yeah. You've got a picture.
[03:21:48] Unknown:
Get RBN's T shirt?
[03:21:51] Unknown:
Yeah. They have a T shirt. And, I I I had I I had
[03:21:56] Unknown:
I have an RBN T shirt around here somewhere that's probably
[03:22:00] Unknown:
the mice have probably already gotten to. But, Probably probably red, white, and blue or something. Right? I think they had their logo on it or something originally.
[03:22:08] Unknown:
Well, it this was a white this was a white shirt that I got from RBN back Right. Oh, gosh. Seven seventeen years ago, maybe?
[03:22:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Robert Raybel went you know, he was a host there at the RVN, and he came up with the idea and what to say on it. And then Sam, the producer, found a, you know, pictograph type thing that shows Jesus Christ turning over the tables. He didn't look like any weakling there. He's not very effeminate.
[03:22:36] Unknown:
Yeah. This all this this was I got this one. John Stattmiller was still you know, you could call and talk with John Stattmiller on them.
[03:22:45] Unknown:
Yeah. But, This one's this one's, 65 or more, so donation, and you can get one. You tell them your size and where you want it sent and all that stuff. But it has no and then oh, in the know, it has, that star of rim fan with a red, you know, cross crossing it out or a red just line crossing it out rather, my band. No Israel, and they're like three inch letters, I guess, or so. And then the picture and then below is couple inch letters without Jesus. No Israel without Jesus. And then below, like, maybe inch high, it says republicbroadcasting.org.
[03:23:22] Unknown:
It's on a black shirt. Yeah. Yeah. I don't you know, I honestly honestly, I haven't listened to RBN since I found, Roger. Uh-huh. Because because, I heard Roger back in I wanna say it was, like, 2012. Mhmm. On, he was on with, oh, the the, the guy that, the Vietnam Veteran that, had his own gold, I guess he sold he had his own precious metals company, I guess. You know what I'm talking about. Right?
[03:24:00] Unknown:
Jeff Bennett. And he was on RBM.
[03:24:03] Unknown:
He's still there. Still is. I don't listen to that, but, you know yeah. He's there Tuesday through Thursday. Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday in that slot four to 6PM central.
[03:24:17] Unknown:
And what about what about our, USS Liberty, Phil Tierney? Is he still around?
[03:24:23] Unknown:
He's around. In fact, he and Mike just did a podcast the other day, and I believe he's gonna release it today. Isn't that right, Brent, in what he said? I think.
[03:24:34] Unknown:
Not sure.
[03:24:36] Unknown:
But
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But if you just put Phil Tierney in YouTube, you'll probably see it might be posted there. He has Phil Tierney, the Phil Tierney podcast or at Phil Tierney podcast on YouTube. But if you just put Phil Tierney in, t o u r n e y, y, you'll see Adam was checked today. He apparently started it, like, a month ago.
[03:24:58] Unknown:
There was a guy that there was a guy that was, on, what was he I can't remember what his name was. But, apparently, he wrote a he he wrote a book about the the definition of terms and and, semantics, basically, And he would really tear down words and stuff like that on, RBN, but I haven't heard him. I think he just kinda walked away, from broadcasting. But he was, at the time, he was doing the broadcast, and he was down in Florida somewhere. And, yeah, I think I think he had gone through a divorce earlier, and he he was always he was always talking about, you know, sarcastically about, I don't know, relationships and stuff like that.
But, yeah, apparently, he'd written a really, really deep condensed book on word definitions. Does anybody remember who that was?
[03:26:08] Unknown:
Brent might. Yep. I know. We'll do a sense of humor. Yeah. Semantics. Brent might remember. I don't I don't really. I haven't been around as long as Sprint.
[03:26:21] Unknown:
I actually have a I have a recording that, that he pops up. I just can't remember his name. Might even have been suit a pseudonym for all we know because, you know, he use use your, you know, like George Orwell, for example. You know?
[03:26:42] Unknown:
He didn't use his real yeah. Yeah. I think it was Eric Arthur Blair. Right?
[03:26:49] Unknown:
Yeah. See? You, you remember that stuff. So, yeah, he, yeah, he he had some he had some good stuff, and he he cracked jokes and stuff like that on on air. He was a really funny guy. He went away. He he was, I don't know, like, back in, I don't know, 2015. It went away for a while, then he came back, and, I think he might have got discouraged. Maybe he didn't have enough listeners or something, or he just maybe nobody bought his book or but it sounded like he'd he'd written an unabridged something unan unabridged about the, English language.
I wanna say Starseed, or some kind of Starseed that they had on there for a while, broadcast, but I thought he was kind of part of that. I'll find out what his name is and ask if anybody, at RBN knows what happened to him. Now RBN lost, apparently, and I I hope they found him, Ralph's old, old archives. Some of them re were recovered, but I don't know if all of them were recovered because I remember, Ralph Winter Road back in I've got recordings of them back in, I think, 02/2008, 02/2010. But, apparently, a lot of those a lot of the archives got, I don't know, stolen or wiped away or whatever.
And that's why I'm kinda I'm kinda curious on the events on how, Ralph died. I mean, he sounded like he was in good good health or shape. You know? But I do remember him coughing and stuff, and he said he had a, you know, he had the flu or whatever. And then it seemed like, not too long after that, you know, he it was announced that, he had passed away, and Roger had taken his, you know, over his position. So, yeah, I'm I'm just also curious if, you know, Ralph had any, r if any archives were found of Ralph's stuff way back in the when he first came on to RBN.
And he he always used to say, hey. Look. You know? You know, we're we're we're ignorant and stupid, but we're learning. So that's what that's what cracked me up I it cracked me up about it because I I thought to myself, oh my god. Anybody who's trying to dig through dig through all that minutiae of the federal register deserves a a little bit of attention because it was it was it was just you look at that stuff, and it it for me, it it just makes me go it makes my eyes go cross eyed. I feel like I got, you know, hit upside the head or something trying to read and interpret that stuff. And and I might even have told him. I'm like, hell. When I read this stuff, I don't know whether to after I read it, I don't know whether I'm supposed to turn left or turn right after reading all this stuff in the damn federal register.
[03:30:51] Unknown:
It was deliberately done that way, and it's written at the thirty second and thirty third grade level.
[03:31:01] Unknown:
Thirty second and thirty third grade level?
[03:31:05] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:31:10] Unknown:
Well, to me, it's to me, it just sounds like a damn shell game. You know? But, I've I've spent I've spent many, many years sending out to anybody that would listen, you know, over YouTube or whatever. I get out on these sites, you know, to look into that Administrative Procedures Act in 1946. And, Ralph would always say, lawyers can't go there. If they've if they wanted if they've got family and they wanna feed their family, they're not allowed to go into the Administrative Procedures Act because they're gonna get shut down, and they're gonna lose their livelihood, or they might even lose their lives.
So that's why, people that are not lawyers, that are not members of the, quote, bar, are able to be able to, should I how should I say it, infiltrate or, you know, seek out this information, and use what Ralph seemed to say is, like, use their stuff against them. It's their stuff. We just have to we just have to find out, how to use it against them. And that's why Ralph is always digging into the I I got recordings here of him calling the, Annie Bunk at the Federal Register. There's only two there's only two attorneys at the Federal Register. And she said it's, it's the age it's up to the agencies to police themselves on whether they're in compliance with the Federal Register or the Administrative Procedures Act.
But Ralph would always emphasize that, we are being ruled by legal notice in the federal register at title 28, section twenty seventy two. And when I looked at that in in small print, basically, it was referring to the Supreme Court, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong because of, you know, like I said, you're interpreting this stuff. You don't know whether to turn left or right makes you go to sleep. But it talked about subs the substantive or substantive rule, however you wanna say it. And Ralph was always emphasizing that I cannot find any any agencies that have have put out substantatives of, rules on on what they're what these agencies are supposed to be, be out there saying that they've got authorization to do.
And Ralph was just always emphasizing, look. I've come up to the conclusion. He said he said the IRS is done. They're they're dead in the water because they have not been properly publishing notice and comment in the federal register at title five US code five five three little b, c, and d. And we're supposed to and and he would say this, you know, sarcastically, like, yeah. We're supposed to dig into the look and see what the federal register is doing daily daily, to find out, you know, whether they can or cannot do this stuff. But what that b, c, and d is saying that, they're, they are supposed to properly, like, in the military, they used to say the drill sergeant used to say, buy the numbers.
You know? And he'd break down an m 16, rifle, and you had to do it by the numbers. Or when you're in drilling ceremony, by the numbers. So he he was he was into that. And, you know, when I heard him, I tried to ask him, you know, by the numbers, you know, break it down. So it is easily understandable or hopefully. And, I think towards the end of his life, he'd he'd come up with, one CFR at 2143 where these agencies, whenever they do any type of changes to their, quote, rules, they're supposed to publish behind the table of contents, the changes.
And he's saying and even asked Amy Bunk, you know, these these agencies aren't doing it. And, what's our remedy? And Amy Bunk said, well, either the the the people out there, they have to sue the courts or congress, if it's brought to their attention that they haven't, filed, notice and comment, and did the procedures by the numbers properly, it can be, what do you call it, vacated? I guess that's the well, that's the word she used, vacated. So I guess that means what? Just walk away or drop it? But that's what that's what she said. I've got that on I got that on tape.
But Ralph Ralph is like, it's basically what it is. It's it's left up to we, the people, to hold these agencies accountable. And we have we have to go behind them and tell Congress. We have to tell on these agencies. We have to tell our representatives and tell them that, these agencies aren't following their own, you know, their own system that FDR had literally said in a booklet in '19 published in 1937, a pan some kind of a pamphlet. And he said that we have created, if I might say or add, a fourth branch of government, administrative and in scope to, I guess, regulate the, the different, huge agencies that had come out of the abyss of hell is what Ralph would say when the federal register stood up and quote social security to regulate the railroads, the, what what's the the dam construction stuff that's going on or had been going on in in Tennessee and Alabama, you know, for the all the different programs and stuff that the VA.
TVA. Thank you. And the new deal, you know, the new deal stuff. So They're all be over. Yeah. I agree. And I I get it. I I, you know, I've I filed my affidavit, you know, after after Ralph had passed and Roger came back into the you know, onto the scene. I immediately filed my my affidavit after, you know, Roger came back. And, I I really do believe, though, that because of all the effort that Ralph had put into digging, you know, digging or going into the rabbit holes and stuff, trying to find out, figure out what the heck was really going on. It sounded like to me that at least what he had accomplished and figured out with the title five, the little b, c, and d, five five three, little b, c, and d, and one CFR twenty one forty three, and he he would always talk about Chrysler versus Brown, that it's important to at least let the the American public or people out there that might have an ear to hear or people that are within the government, a means of also holding, holding Congress and the agencies, quote, accountable by saying that they're not following that at that and this a lawyer said this.
He said this after I brought it to a group's attention that it was a nineteen forties I think he said 1947 obscure law, about about the agencies. And, but when he made that when he said obscure, it almost sounded like to me it was of not in not important. But then this guy was a lawyer too. So when he said that, I thought to myself, well, remember Ralph was saying that the lawyers can't go there because they will they will be squashed. They'll be they'll lose their livelihood with because they're bar card holders. So I think then I think to have those, and I think you Ralph even said this, put that in your put these things in your quiver as, you know, when you're out there doing battle, against these agencies because that was a Frankenstein monster that that the, you know, the the left or the communist had created when they infiltrated our government, but they left they always have to leave an escape route, and that escape route was the APA.
And if that's brought to congress's attention, Because when you think about it, all the people that approved the, APA back in 1946, they've all done passed away. And that information, I don't think, has been rolled down to, you know, other generations, whether it be in the law, like like Roger is saying that, you know, the having a, law class on the definition of, what? Trying to think of the, the word, person or or as, Clinton would say, is is. And Clint I think Clint was the guy's name, that had this show, back a few years ago. If anybody's out there still listening.
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Lynn Richardson.
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Richardson. There you go. What whatever became of him. I think I called RBN after I I didn't hear him anymore, and nobody knew.
[03:43:38] Unknown:
He just he just People get people get burned out, and, and and there's also a lot of people that wanna have a show here lately, apparently. So only so many hours.
[03:43:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I mean, as I say, when Roger came on, back, you know, from years of being gone because he just disappeared too. I'm like, wow. You know? And that was back during the same time frame of, another guy that had written that book. They own it all including you. And, I bought a couple of those books. I got Roger's book. And, but it it since that was
[03:44:27] Unknown:
That was Ron McDonald and Robert Bowen that did that book. And it's a good book. But like Andy Hitchcock points out, what's with these patriots? They always go back to thinking you're gonna have the gold standard to fall back on. Journey didn't do that. It's labor. Labor is really the only value. And Jews know that.
[03:44:50] Unknown:
So so are are you saying that that, well, do you think that do you think that we're gonna, I personally get the impression, I could be wrong, that president Trump is going to try to bring us back to a gold and silver standard. And on top of that, somehow implement certain certain coins that are on the blockchain that can be, you know, be accountable. So, so is do you see it that way, or or do you think they're like Julie was saying, it's a it's all a trick and a trap to take away everybody's everybody's property, you will own nothing and be happy.
[03:45:57] Unknown:
I'll keep pushing the wrong button. Who knows? You know, we'll see. That's that's the most we can get. But, you know, that's what they'd like to do. Maybe why do they call us property and make us pay property tax on land that we supposedly own?
[03:46:11] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I I agree. I I wholeheartedly agree. And back around 2012, I saw so I don't know who stood this site up. I might have a I might have tried to print a the front page of it, but somebody had created a beautiful, web page about a lodial title. And I remember it was a black, background with a blue and blue and maybe, white or yellow in inscription. But, yeah, that thing, later on, I tried to tried to go back to it, and it it had disappeared kinda like copper cards. Do you ever remember copper cards?
[03:47:24] Unknown:
Let me say this. For all your studying and everything, the paperwork angle and, legislative and all that crap, voting. None of that crap is going to work. We need to be getting ready to fight these bastards tooth and nail. That's all they understand, and that's what they're going to do.
[03:47:56] Unknown:
Brent, are you talking about on a are you talking about literally, physically?
[03:48:04] Unknown:
I didn't say anything else.
[03:48:07] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:48:11] Unknown:
Yeah. You better be storing up your beans, bullets, and band aids and everything attached to it. Have other places to put it. You know, you know, put all your eggs in one basket, and you get ready to take these bastards out because they will take you out. Their goal ultimately is to kill us,
[03:48:40] Unknown:
period. So do you so, Brent, do you think the, so what's your impression what's your impression of what's going on in, what, Portland and Chicago sending in the,
[03:48:54] Unknown:
you know, the alphabet soup agencies to It's the it's the period of escalating violence. You've heard Roger talk about the Communist Party or the nineteen twenty nine third Communist Internationale working papers, haven't you?
[03:49:18] Unknown:
Maybe briefly.
[03:49:22] Unknown:
Well, instead of all that, APA minutiae, I'd ahead my nose in that because that is what they are doing.
[03:49:38] Unknown:
And who do you think is behind the
[03:49:42] Unknown:
The goddamn Jews and communists. Oh. And and and demon worshipers. Real easy. It's in the book.
[03:49:58] Unknown:
Damn. Well, and how about our affidavits?
[03:50:09] Unknown:
Eventually, those will not be recognized. But for right now right now, they hold water. Oh. But you have all these other knuckleheads out there. Oh, I have to fill out a book of crap to go and be free. Really? Okay. Knock yourself out, hero. And then all that other time's gonna you know, that they need to go and prep their houses. You know, that's our first priority, you know, other than, you know, worshiping our creator is our household. You know? You gotta be able to feed, clothe, house. Yep.
[03:51:01] Unknown:
Well, I'm sure you're incident. The what incident?
[03:51:07] Unknown:
Even after the incidents. You know, the craft that they're going to do to get us along to their new world order when they when they when they start goose stepping.
[03:51:24] Unknown:
I would. I would. Yeah. I'm I'm in hopes that that, our president is, trying to war you know, take out this new world order.
[03:51:41] Unknown:
If, well, he's a part of it. If you're looking for Superman or a hero, you go and look in that bathroom mirror, that's who your hero is going to be if you choose to be it. And that goes with everybody else. Nobody is your hero but you.
[03:52:07] Unknown:
Yep. Oh, so am I seeing a am I seeing a chemtrail? I haven't seen one of those in a while, but it looks like I'm seeing one right now.
[03:52:18] Unknown:
There's some, I think he's a FDA guy or something. He was talking about chemtrails and that he's bringing it to light. I had some other, link about it.
[03:52:34] Unknown:
Yeah. They've been talking they I I have seen clips of them talking about it in, Congress. I wanna say Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I think she might have mentioned it here couple months back. And, I will say this. I mean, for when I first got back to The States, I was like, what? For years, I would watch them turn beautiful blue skies, just milky white. And,
[03:53:06] Unknown:
Oh, but you were crazy for mentioning it.
[03:53:09] Unknown:
And I I I mean, I called someone,
[03:53:13] Unknown:
and they think you were crazy. Oh, I don't see any of that. Just compensation.
[03:53:18] Unknown:
That's just compensation.
[03:53:21] Unknown:
The compensation dissipates like you hold your fingers up. You know, it's only a, like, a inch or so, which would be maybe a quarter mile behind the plane. And I remember seeing that in the sixties when I was little.
[03:53:39] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:53:40] Unknown:
You know, I didn't have anything billowing out of planes and stuff, like, in the nineties.
[03:53:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I don't know how it was here in the in the nineties, but I never saw any of that stuff in Europe. And, but not until I got back to The States. Like, literally, I'm like, oh my god. What the heck is this stuff? That is not condensation. I used to call the I used to call the TV stations and ask the weather people to go outside and take a look up and, you know, say, tell me, is that is that condensation? I don't think that's condensation. There's something up. They're turning beautiful.
[03:54:22] Unknown:
You have rocks in your head, sir, and we're going to have a SWAT team come over to enforce that.
[03:54:29] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Well, they they did one time. Not not here at work.
[03:54:39] Unknown:
They swatted you?
[03:54:43] Unknown:
I got heck. I had a damn f I had everybody. Where I worked where I worked. Yeah. They shut down the whole damn they shut down the main the main road that went on to the, arsenal where I work all because they, you know, suspected me of, being a I don't know what the hell they they thought I was I don't know. I guess they were trying to think I was gonna try to do brings harm or something.
[03:55:18] Unknown:
Oh, bringing truth? You were a reality theorist.
[03:55:25] Unknown:
Yeah. It was it was, it was crazy, the helicopter and bomb squad and a robot, you know, going into my vehicle. It it was kinda funny too because I'm sitting in the back of a I'm sitting in the back of a a squad car looking over my shoulder, and I'm like, damn. I've been looking for that bag for for quite a few months now. If she was going across the street with this bag that I had, you know, it's just basically survival, equipment, but I couldn't find it. And, yeah, they were they were suspect they used to have suspected me of having a, I don't know, a weapon of of weapon because there was ammunition in the, in the vehicle.
So, yeah. But I'm I'm glad they I'm glad they found my bag. But, yeah, that that turned out to be kind of a I don't know. I guess I I guess I had a angel run by my side or some. So I would I even I even had some of the some of these police, you know, people, tell me later, they said, hey. You know? Look. I you know? We're we're fall you know? It's basically the same thing. We we agree with you. We're we're just, you know, we're just following orders from higher. You know? And I thought to myself, well, thank goodness they, you know, they never rough they never roughened me up or anything.
But, yeah, that golly, that's been that's fifteen years ago.
[03:57:44] Unknown:
Who was the one that ratted you out?
[03:57:47] Unknown:
I'm I'm sure you're I'm sure you've run into them. Some I I think I think somebody at work. Somebody at work.
[03:57:58] Unknown:
Yeah. And you probably talked to them every day. Did you notice did you notice the guilt on their face?
[03:58:07] Unknown:
No.
[03:58:10] Unknown:
Because No. There there was a telltale sign that they did it. Was there someone that quit talking to you?
[03:58:21] Unknown:
Not that I know of. I think I I think I know who who who was behind it.
[03:58:27] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:58:30] Unknown:
But, I don't know. It's really When the
[03:58:34] Unknown:
when the event comes around, their life needs to be a living hell.
[03:58:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that I'm sure I don't know. It's a hopefully, people hope hopefully, people in the last fifteen years have started to wake up even more to all this crazy stuff that's going on. And since the pandemic of them are
[03:59:08] Unknown:
I find most of them are deeper into their cranial rectal inversion.
[03:59:16] Unknown:
Oh my god. And so so the so they got worse.
[03:59:22] Unknown:
Yeah. If we if we're gonna be talking about such things, I think I should probably take the streams down because I don't know about cranial rectal inversions. Don't know. Anyways
[03:59:33] Unknown:
very clean with that.
[03:59:35] Unknown:
Yes. Think about that. This is really did it. Yes. This has been the radio ranch with Roger Sales and his Friday cohost Brent Allen Winters. For more information, go to the matrixdocs.com. You can find links to our live streams, our free conference call rooms so you can also join titillating conversations like cranial rectal inversion therapy and all that happy stuff. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Tomorrow, Sabado edition, 11AM eastern, right here on the Raneo Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Kickoff, platforms, and a vaping scare
Health warnings: vapes, Kratom drinks, and kids
Brent joins: tobacco, Abe Lincoln stories, and vices
Tobacco culture: auctions, grades, and cigarette trash leaf
Rolling and blending: Bull Durham, Prince Albert, and machines
Pipes, quitting, and the COVID–nicotine debate
Call‑ins: nicotine, parasites, foot soaks, and horses
From tobacco to food: chemicals, bread, beer, and labels
Pivot: Supreme Court, rights, and Voting Rights Act hints
Scripture and smoking: Westminster Confession and conscience
Wine, excess, being filled with the Spirit, and Samson
Fermented vs. unfermented wine and Bible translation notes
Show reflections: smoking, drunks, and limits of legislation
Common law, juries, and constitutional misunderstandings
Plugs: commonlawyer.com, classes, and Sunday church stream
Aftershow begins: gag orders, Turning Point, and politics
COG theories, Trump, plenary power, and psyop debates
Wide‑ranging conspiracies: secret codes, celebs, and cults
History detours: medieval plagues, wars, and bloodlines
German WWII memories, POW camps, and postwar suffering
Communism, leaders, and bloodline claims debated
Administrative Procedure Act, Federal Register, and IRS talk
Prepping over paperwork: beans, bullets, and bandages
Chemtrails, SWAT stories, and closing housekeeping
