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I am biased on this subject but my guest Aleks Svetski has even more outside the norm views and opinions on the subject of male and female gender roles. I LOVED this interview. Thanks Aleks

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• We delved into the mental health crisis affecting our culture and society, discussing the financial system's role in the decay of the family unit and traditional gender roles. 
• Alex and I also tackled the controversial topic of gender roles in sports, particularly the participation of men in women's sports, and the broader implications of such societal changes. 
• We debated the responsibilities of men and women, the importance of maintaining natural order, and the potential solutions to the current societal challenges. 
• Alex shared insights from his upcoming book, "The Bushido of Bitcoin," which explores virtues and principles for a new socioeconomic standard. We also touched on his project, Satlantis, which aims to create a new kind of social network using Nostr. 
• This episode is packed with thought-provoking discussions and bold opinions, making it a must-listen for those interested in societal change and the future of leadership.

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(00:00:02) Introduction and Guest Overview

(00:01:20) Freedom of Speech and Rights

(00:04:15) Gender Roles in Sports

(00:12:32) Masculinity and Responsibility

(00:18:42) The Bushido of Bitcoin

(00:28:30) Societal Structures and Voting Rights

(00:45:02) Women’s Influence and Political Roles

(01:06:13) Bushido of Bitcoin: Overview

(01:11:02) Satlantis and Future Projects

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[00:00:03] Unknown:

Hey, aloha, guys. It is never a dull moment over here in the Love Lounge.   I just got the privilege of interviewing Alex Fetzky who is, somebody who I consider a dear friend and one of my very first Bitcoiner friends. We have a lot of interesting differences of   perspectives on life. However, we have a lot of crossovers as well.   You have to tune into this episode. It went in a lot of different directions. And I think we pulled on a couple interesting threads of   how leadership   can be changed in the world. We have a couple different surprises. He actually called me a name, which I kinda liked, actually. So you have to tune in towards the end of the episode to find out what that is. And,   yeah, it's really cool. But, yeah, check this episode out. And I also got to order   his preorder for   the Bushido of Bitcoin. So check it out too.  

Everything   I I don't know. I'm waiting for the blue check mark again, so I didn't get to post it here live in,   Twitter. So check, the link in,   bio, and it'll get you over to the YouTube page where the full video is. And I hope you guys enjoy this. This is, it's just such a privilege to get to do the show and I'm really excited to keep delivering you guys some better,   content for the future. We are in for a long haul after, obviously,   what is happening on the Earth, what's gonna continue to happen, all of the ridiculousness   and clown world that we are   in. And,   you know, as much as we wanna just kind of put our heads in the sand and pretend we're ostriches,   If we all don't rise up and do something with our voices, with our power, with   our ability to speak freely, especially here in the United States with our First Amendment rights, apparently, they don't have that in the UK. So they're arresting people in their own homes because they're making some posts on Facebook that somebody doesn't like.  

Can you imagine sitting at home and you were shitposting   and somebody made,   and you get arrested?   That's ridiculous. And so, we wanna make sure that we can preserve our rights here in the United States   and not let socialists and communists come in and   be the thought police. And men and women need to rise up, all of us and everybody in between.   And again,   I did this episode because   I believe   we are seeing a mental health crisis of our culture and our society. And I think that the decay,   has many reasons. You know, Alex and I talked about some of them and obviously, it's a   longer conversation than just 1 hour. But,   you know, obviously, the financial system is a shit show. The current money system causes these things. The money system also   causes the downfall and the destruction of the family unit and the ability for women to be women and men to be men   and children to be children. And, you know, you think about all these places in the world where children have to work. They're little slaves   and living in poverty which is absolutely unacceptable and unnecessary in today's day and age. So, we talk about some of these issues and I'll be talking about this more in the new version of the show. I'm I'm just going to be keeping it the DJ Valerie B. Love Show because this way, I can get a broader opportunity to talk to different audiences.  

And if you guys have any suggestions for   guests or things that I should be talking about so that we can kind of cross pollinate   the messages of freedom, of truth, of Bitcoin,   of common sense and sanity   to the rest of the world, let me know and,   I'll be at your service. So until next time, guys, this is DJ Valerie Beloved And I wish you the best day of your whole life because it's the only one you got. Aloha.   Hey, aloha. Get ready for an epic episode. And if you love it, please share it. You know why? Because you got the love. Enjoy, my friends.   Hey, aloha, love tribe. Welcome to the new version of the podcast. I have somebody with me here who's I think you're one of my very first Bitcoiner friends, Alex.  

Alex is the author of the Uncommunist Manifesto, Bushido of Bitcoin, the founder of St. Lantus,   Spirit of Satoshi. He's the founder of Bitcoin Times and the Wake Up Podcast. Welcome, Alex Fetsky, to the show.   Val, good to see you. It's been a while. Missed you. Yeah. It has been a while. I know we so we had a little exchange on Twitter last week about   the the stuff that's going on with, you know, our men should men be in women's sports,   Where should women be, etcetera? And, you know, I know you and I always have great   conversations about masculine and feminine and what are proper roles and are there should there be roles?  

And I know this is kind of it's not played to me, it's not played out enough yet because it's already hidden and people are forgetting to talk about it. But tonight, the there's the fight   with 2 x y people, otherwise known as men, competing for the women's medal gold medal.   So,   what do you think about all this?  

[00:05:20] Unknown:

I think it's great. I think 2 dudes should be the only ones in the ring.  

[00:05:24] Unknown:

Because I'll keep going. Let's go deeper on that. Why? I mean,  

[00:05:28] Unknown:

I I kind of tried to lay it out and people got butthurt on,   Twitter as usual. But, like, fighting is not a women's sport, and and it shouldn't even be a sport. Like, if you think about what a sport is, a sport is something you,   particularly when it comes to elite level sports, like at the Olympics and stuff like that, it's where people go to watch people perform at an elite level. And to me, shit like putting women into a ring just reeks of the whole me too movement and all of that fucking work shit. It's no different than putting tampons in a male bathroom.   Right? It it the the shit doesn't belong. And,   like, it's it's not something to be watched or celebrated. In fact, it's just,   an example of how sick society has become. Like, I don't find there's nothing feminine about 2 women beating each other up. No. There's   nothing womanly about it. There's,   and to Saif's point, what he was, saying on Twitter as well   is that   there's a like and this is meant whether it's Bitcoiners or any retard libertarians, all these sort of people, they all forget that there's an opportunity cost to every decision you make. Yeah. So if you want to be a world class,   elite athlete at anything, you're going to pay the price in some capacity. Now   each,   activity has a different price.  

So, you know, if you wanna be a a gymnast or a figure skater or a swimmer or something like that,   that has a far lower price even at an elite level than going into a ring and getting your head fucking punched in. So, like, these these things are all on a on a scale. So, you know, I'm not playing our fucking misogynist. Oh, yeah. We should throw women out of sports. No. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there are some sports that are more,   kind of like how do I put it? They're more geared towards or they lend themselves more towards,   the feminine energy and the and, and female biology and there's stuff that is more catered for men.  

And   the, like, the the whole the whole, oh, it's a dude beating up a chick just misses the whole fucking point. It's just another surface level argument. It's stupid.   Like, that there shouldn't that that sport shouldn't exist in the first place, and it definitely shouldn't be a Olympic level sport.   Like, absolutely fucking not. I I mean, again, like, who are we to decide what people wanna go do with their lives? Right? Like, you and I are Val and Alex. The people who no. It's not me. It's like, if if that the reason the Olympics has decayed to such a degree is because they've opened everything up. So the Olympics was originally a male only event.   There was no such thing as women in the Olympics. Didn't exist. Mhmm. You know, that that's a that's a relatively modern invention, and it goes lockstep   with all the other modern stupidities of trying to androgenize   men and women and make them the same.  

So, you know, you you don't need to do there's things that women are better at. There's things that men are better at. We're different. And as a result,   that should reflect in the sports. So it's not who are we to decide. It's just fucking common sense. And if somebody doesn't   mandate that, then they're going to mandate the opposite, which is an artificial attempt   at creating sports   where, you know, the circle doesn't fit the square. Right? That that's all it is. Like, if if I guarantee you, women's sports on its own   would not exist. Sorry.  

Sorry. Women's boxing on its own as a sport would not exist without being subsidized somehow.   And the way it's subsidized in the Olympics, for example, is that people watch the Olympics in general,   and the, like, the women's boxing component will be a,   a lost leader.   And in fact, if I had to guess,   I would guess that the primary reason they threw a dude in the ring is to create   the,   the media buzz around it because they knew everybody was gonna get pissed off about it. Otherwise,   that fuck. Like, if we go back throughout history before those dudes getting in there knocking out chicks,   I guarantee you the viewership   on the women's boxing component on the Olympics would have been 0.  

0 or or very close to 0. Whereas now, it's being talked about because they inserted the do it. So it's like this is like   starting with the initially false premise opens the door for these kind of stupidities to happen. So if if you argue about the the surface level thing, you're not dealing with the root problem. It's like people talking about,   you know,   the problem of inflation and not talking about central banking. It's the same fucking thing. Right.  

[00:09:55] Unknown:

Well and so, again,   at some point, like, who gets to be the judge of of this? Right? Because some people might argue that   women shouldn't do any sports. They should just be home cooking for their families and having babies, and sports should just be completely outlawed for women altogether. It's   unladylike to compete.   Right? And if you look in certain countries,   you know, where women aren't allowed to hold property, they're not allowed to have a vote, they're not allowed to have a say. So at what   point on the spectrum   do we draw the line and start to differentiate ourselves from countries and people and cultures who say, no, women have zero rights, 0 opportunities to make choices on their own, versus the psychopaths over here who say, yes, let's go let guys beat up girls so that we can get ratings and sponsor dollars?  

Like where in the spectrum and who gets to decide?  

[00:10:45] Unknown:

Whoever the territory operator is. I mean, this this starts to go into the the politics and the mechanics of running societies. Right? Yeah. And,   once again, I I think the the people who are running the Olympics,   are a vile bunch and   evident by   everything that's happening with the Olympics in the modern day. They don't give a fuck about any of this stuff.   If the I mean, I I I don't know the mechanics and who the board is behind the Olympics and all that sort of stuff. I heard that there's I saw some crazy numbers. Like, it's   brings in x number of $1,000,000,000 a year or, per event.  

And it's sort of set up in some really weird structure where   the money is funnelled out and the expenses are something like,   900,000,000 of it. So it's like   I'm butchering the numbers here, but I saw something like 8,000,000,000 in terms of what it brings in, 900,000,000 in terms of what the expenses are, and then the rest of the money kind of vanishes. So,   Wow. You know yeah. So so it's it's crazy. So the the question of,   who runs it, who operates, and all that sort of stuff, what I like, I guess the the way I'm saying it is if I was running it and what my position is on a healthy,   healthy society is that   I would not allow things like that inside the Olympics.  

And I think that's more in line with,   natural order, natural law, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.   And that's my personal opinion. I don't run the fucking Olympics, so I can't do anything about it other than just point out how stupid   the, all the arguments   are other than that   component, which I believe is,   the, the critical talking point is like,   what, what sports,   should be socially acceptable as a civilization,   for women?  

[00:12:32] Unknown:

And And so what about swimming? We have swimming. We have men, you know, who are, you know former men, I mean, to be women competing against women in swimming.  

[00:12:41] Unknown:

Mhmm. I mean, look, swimming is definitely a beautiful men's sport. Yeah.   I've got no problem with that. It's not it's not violent, like punching someone in the faces. They're they're 2 different things,   and putting dudes in swimming. I I guess the thing is if if you wanna like, it's it's very hard   in the situation that they're in to open it in one domain without opening it in every domain. So that's essentially what ends up happening. Right. So, you know and and that's the thing. That those kind of ideologies, they just feed on themselves.  

[00:13:13] Unknown:

They they do. And that's the thing. They're it's perpetuating and it's expanding. And that's why I'm so I'm pissed off about this because   I feel like I have a daughter   and I don't want her in a locker room with somebody who's got a dick.   Like, that's not okay with me. Like, I never want her in a locker room where she feels unsafe. And so all of these, like, little   infiltrations, these little things that keep happening and it's like, well, it's okay over here and it's not okay over here, it's like   everybody deserves to be able to go to the bathroom. Everybody deserves to feel if you wanna call yourself a koala bear, I don't give a shit. Okay? But   you if you have some sexual difference   that is, you know, gonna make a woman feel uncomfortable,   then we need to protect the majority and then also protect the people who are also in a minority and not make them feel badly because they decided,   I don't identify with x y z gender or x x y whatever, you know.  



[00:14:10] Unknown:

It's starting to just get, I mean, dangerous. To everyone. We can't be nice to everyone. That's the thing. So so this is this is, again,   I get called a misogynist for this, but the biggest problem we have in politics today is that it's too feminine. And I don't mean that   it's it's like   so   so you've got on the,   on the spectrum, you have, compassion and justice   generally, oppose each other. And we live in a world that has over indexed   for compassion.   And part of compassion is, like, make everyone feel nice, open the borders, all this sort of stuff. And we're seeing what's happening in England at the moment. Thanks to open borders. And we're seeing what's happening across all of Europe and all this sort of stuff. So it's like this attempt at   inverting   masculine order, which masculine masculinity is about exclusion.  

And the masculinity is about borders.   Masculinity is about saying no.   The feminine energy is about,   you know, chaos and everyone's all equal and we're all the same and we should be compassionate or we should let everyone in and all this sort of stuff. And that, you know, the   the   the the maternal   instinct is extraordinarily   important,   but it doesn't,   it doesn't   energetically   or physically or structurally or socially or politically provide order. And what's missing today is a functional   ordered hierarchy.   And   the West has kneecapped itself,   in the process because it's, you know, kind of   become this,   like, guilt ridden,   society which   no longer values,   men or what masculinity is supposed to represent.  

And as a result,   everything is upside down. So when someone points out something like this, then straight away,   he's a bigot, he's a far right wing racist,   misogynist, and all this sort of stuff because,   there's no other way for them to,   counteract,   the argument. And they you know, we we look around, and everything is, once again, inverted. And   I don't know, man. Like, the   there's there's no way out of this. It's like   the the only way out of this is   for   men to kind of  

[00:16:30] Unknown:

Step up. Fall again. Yeah. Men need to step up. Like, this is the thing that I'm seeing that's missing is men are turning into these little soggy versions of marshmallows because,   oh, we wanna be too mushy gushy emotional and this, and that's great. Like, get in touch with your emotions. And your job is to protect the women, to protect the children, to protect the planet,   to protect society,   and to keep order. And so when men wanna just sit and go check out and smoke weed and play video games and go watch porn and not engage in what they're supposed to be doing,   you know, I'm gonna put it a little bit of energy on the men because it's like,   why do we have a woman who is   this Democratic nominee who nobody even put no citizen of the United States said, yes. We want her to be here. It's because the system is so disgustingly corrupt   that it's being allowed to to get taken over and going, oh, look. We have a woman for president.  

I don't vote because somebody has certain genitalia.   Okay? We I want somebody who's gonna take care of shit, who can sit down with Putin or Netanyahu or anybody and have conversations and negotiate. I don't want somebody who's gonna sit and cackle and tell everybody we all need to be woke. You know? So it's like men,   I feel like as much as I don't love Andrew Tate, I learned a lot from him about masculine frame and my son was starting to follow him because he felt   he was getting misguided by a lot of this woke stuff   and he wanted to have more of a masculine role model. Granted,   a little too far masculine in several areas, but in many areas, I was like, I actually see his point. And so how do we have something that's not something that's way too toxic over here but still   very, very strong in the masculine? And I wanna ask you that about the the Bushido of Bitcoin and talk about, do you bring this up? Because I haven't gotten to get your book yet. So   let's segue into that.  



[00:18:27] Unknown:

I mean, you're you're not the only one without the book. Nobody has the book.  

[00:18:31] Unknown:

I'm waiting, brother.  

[00:18:35] Unknown:

How do we do that?  

[00:18:36] Unknown:

Yeah. How do we do get the men to move forward and claim their power?  

[00:18:43] Unknown:

You you continue to give them responsibility.   That's the   that that's the only way.   You can't   like, the you you just need to keep,   like,   the the the masculine   responds to responsibility.   That's it. Like, responsibility is weight. And   the capacity to   bear weight   is precisely   what the idea where the idea of frame comes from. A frame is designed to bear weight. You know, when you build a house, you build a structural frame first, and the frame's purpose is to bear weight.   The feminine is not designed to bear weight. It's not what it does.   It can,   but if it does,   then it starts to become masculine. Exactly. And that's when women begin to resent men,   because the man around her cannot bear the weight that he's supposed to do. So,   therefore, she picks it up. So so woman is like an inverse,   mirror in many ways to to a man.  

So how do we do this? Well, we need to keep   pushing responsibility onto men,   and basically allowing them to decide things. So, you know, before you said,   you know, should we allow women to vote or something like that? I I fundamentally believe no.   Women are not supposed to vote because a vote is a responsibility.   And, again, this is sounds crazy to people today in the modern world. You know? So straight away, it's like, oh, he's a fucking misogynist. Look. He doesn't want women to vote. He doesn't want them to have any rights. Mhmm. Well, no. It's just a place for those rights. So the vote   in a like a political vote in a society comes with   the   responsibility   it carries. And once again, it's not in general generally speaking, this doesn't,   account for the exception. Some women are far more masculine, and some women just have that sort of predisposition. But you don't,   build a civilization around the exceptions. You build around,   the generalities.  

So in general,   men,   carry the burden of responsibility for resource distribution, for resource allocation, for the creation of wealth, for production, from all all these sort of things.   And   they are the ones, by carrying that responsibility,   who must also then carry the responsibility to vote. And, I mean, all great civilizations all throughout history had only men voting. There's no such thing as women voting. It just didn't exist. That's a modern invention.   And once I think we spoke about this a couple of years back when,   when we recorded the first time.  

The French revolution was when   the patriarchy was first overturned in the west. And that's where the decay started. It didn't start in fucking 1971 or 1930 and is all the dumbass Bitcoiners belief. Like, it didn't start with printing money started way way before that.   And if you wanna look at where it started it was when metaphorically speaking   the, the patriarchy was killed by killing the king,   and   literally speaking when that was done. And then   the types of laws that were instituted thereafter,   the first,   sanctioning of divorce in the West,   the   the use of women to   guilt men into   joining the Left, the Jacobins,   and,   basically performing anti monarchist   raids and,   creating the first fucking police state that there was. And and all this sort of stuff turned into the the the great terror of,   during the French Revolution, which basically got the left to chop their own heads off, which was hilarious. But   the at the end of the day, what happened was, like, all these sort of stuff like primogeniture   existed for 1000 of years. It was a Roman, institution and it helped build the capital base of the West.  

And what primogeniture was the the assets of the father   who was   the head of the household, went to the firstborn   son.   Not the secondborn son, not the girl, not the firstborn daughter, the firstborn son.   Not because it was,   you know,   like people call it a privilege, but people forget that a fucking privilege comes with a responsibility. So it was the firstborn son due son's duty   to carry   that,   that wealth forward and then to take care of the rest of the family. He was the one who would become the next patriarch in the family. By removing   that peace,   it destroyed families because what ended up happening was   a complete   free for all for the assets of the family. And that's where you started to see the very, very, very, very early,   seeds planted for the destruction of the nuclear family. It all comes from there, and it all comes from killing   the head of the family, which is the masculine figure, the patriarch.  

So  

[00:23:38] Unknown:

But what happens, Alex? Like, let's step back for a second.   A couple of things.   What happens if that, you know, old eldest son is just a fucking degenerate or violent or just   incompetent, whatever it might be? You know, there's got to be the family's wealth.   Yeah. How does that you know, we don't want that person in charge. And then second The the the competent son will  

[00:24:03] Unknown:

the the competent son will   will rebuild,   and he'll build his lineage.   And the father used to marry   his daughter off   to a partner that the parents selected, which is actually a way healthier way of doing it. And your father allocated   a dowry   to,   his daughter's,   family. New family. New husband. So they were What about people who don't have assets?  

[00:24:31] Unknown:

There's obviously all the peasants and the people who don't have assets are just you just take some money and get a couple of cows for your daughter? Yeah. They did it in a smaller way. That's it.  

[00:24:41] Unknown:

But but okay. So, obviously, this is I don't understand what that question has to do with anything. What about the people with no assets? What what does that have to do with primogeniture?  

[00:24:49] Unknown:

Because it's just like, what are you doing with the women? You're just gonna so then now instead of, you know, you having the money   to to have a dowry and then choose your your daughter's   husband,   if you're poor,   okay,   you're gonna take money from somebody or take cows or whatever,  

[00:25:05] Unknown:

and then you're gonna sell off your daughter. No. No. No. You still you still did that. You still did that as a peasant. It didn't matter. Like, the the arranged marriages were the norm for all all throughout history as well because the idea is that parents knew better than the dumbass kids. But if the parent is getting offered money from somebody who's got money and everyone else is hungry in the family, they're going to go sell their daughter to the highest bidder.  

[00:25:28] Unknown:

That's not okay? That sometimes happened. Yeah. So who speaks up for the woman who has to now go with somebody perhaps 40 years older than her, and she's 13, and now she's gonna get raped by 50 years older? Generally didn't generally happen, but it's like it's it's pick your poison.   You know? So pick your poison, Val. But the poison is I don't want poison. What I want is organic, regenerative society that doesn't involve selling off women to to unqualified   men just because the family's hungry, and I don't wanna have it where women don't have a voice.   So I hear what you're saying for sure, and I do agree with you that,   you know, the men need to rise up and they need to hold that frame. And the women, our job is to create the family, Our job is to create the home. Our job is to have friendships and community and build the relationships   around us. That's what we're great at. We're great at networking. We're great great at all of these things.  

And   there needs to be a way   as somebody who's been a victim of domestic violence. Okay?   I am glad that I don't have to be forced to be with somebody.   Okay?   And that's something that   is I'm grateful. Like, I'm so grateful that I had the choice to be a free woman in my life. And so   how do we create a new society that takes the best pieces of what we've built so far and what we've seen collapse,   pull those forward and integrate into something new and parallel to the shit show clown world that we have right now because women do need a voice. Just can't. Just can't. But we can't keep going the way we're going. We're gonna explore. Correct. So you you like, this is the problem with the direction. So so it's like when I said before pick your poison, each one is subject to,  

[00:27:15] Unknown:

breakdown.   So or sub subject to I shouldn't say breakdown. Subject to problems. 1 is subject to breakdown.   The other is subject to, problems. So one of the problems you mentioned is what about shitty families, shitty fathers who sell their daughter off to get some money?   That is definitely a problem.   There's no way to fucking solve that at the at the structural institution level because the only way to do it is to start   increasing the number of rights women have. But when you do that, you open the door to tampons in men's bathrooms.   That's the that's where you end up. It's the it's the logical conclusion of doing that because you increase the voter base of the compassionate subset of civilization   and they vote themselves and everybody else fucking rights and we end up over here where we are. So there's there's there's no way around it. So the only way to,   fix the other problem, which is so if you you know, the the problem of the poor,   shithead dad selling off his fucking daughter   is to   try and build,   like, try and how do you say   like, I know you   there's gotta be a way to   encourage people   to be better versions of themselves.  

Mhmm. And if they aren't,   then unfucking fortunately, some families are just gonna fail and they'll remain peasants forever.  

[00:28:39] Unknown:

Which is what we're seeing right now, you know, and what we're seeing That's not what we're seeing right now. We're seeing something different right now.   What we're seeing here just in the United States, for example, you know, obviously, we've got inflation. We don't have hyperinflation like in other countries, but we're certainly dealing with this and that's why we're Bitcoiners as we know. But   have you read Seb Bunny's book, The Hidden Cost of Money? Excellent book.   He really dives a lot into the family unit decaying and getting destroyed because of the, you know, the current monetary system and the fiat system. And so,   if we are constantly assaulted,   right, with the media that are all fucking liars, okay, and their job from whoever's holding them from up here, their funders, to manipulate us to believe that, yes, it's okay to have tampons in the men's bathroom,   No. It's not. Most people don't believe that. That's the exception.  

But because the media is controlled over here and we've got puppets as presidential candidates,   and the people believe, oh, yes, it's gonna go do this, The media and this toxic system is what we're up against. Like, that's where I feel like we're gonna have to keep moving forward whether Noster is so great. Yes. I love it. But it's like this many of us are on Noster, and it's a great echo chamber. Wouldn't it be nice if it grew? But even on Twitter, we're getting censored. The minute you start saying stuff, you can't your posts get throttled if you start talking about things. So how do we have this open dialogue of intelligence   that's not completely   hijacked by the the the the kraken, I call it, this evil system that wants to control us and keep us as slaves.  

You know, that's that's the top level, I think, of where we need to address the problem.  

[00:30:20] Unknown:

There's no answer to that, Val.   That's the problem. There's no answer?  

[00:30:25] Unknown:

There has to be an answer, Alex. We can't just keep letting this happen to us and just go hide in our holes like little ostriches.  

[00:30:32] Unknown:

I mean,   there's   okay.   Maybe there's no single answer. Maybe that's a better way of putting it. Okay. One answer is   we get some fucking machetes, and we just go start stabbing cunts and killing all the bad people.  

[00:30:48] Unknown:

I doubt that that's that's not working so great over it's happening in the UK right now, apparently. These dudes running around with machetes. What the fuck? Why not? Let's go be those guys. Necessary  

[00:30:57] Unknown:

in some ways. But the the thing is, like, you,   like,   the there's no that's why I said this is like, there's no answer. There's there's no direct answer. There's no there's no silver bullet. There's a bunch of lead bullets.   There's Nostra does its thing. Bitcoin does its thing.   Writing does its thing. Podcasting does its thing. Elon Musk and making, you know, stuff available on x does its thing.   You know, people like you doing podcast does its thing. The book that I'm writing does its thing. Like, everything is a function of doing something towards it, but it's it's way too big and complex for there to be an answer for me to say, oh, what do we do? I don't fucking know. Nobody knows. I agree. There's not obviously one solution. I wish we had a silver bullet. I wish we had an orange bullet, actually.  

[00:31:41] Unknown:

And, wouldn't that be nice? Well, I hope you've come to realize that the orange bull bullet is also bullshit. Well, it's just one it's a tool. Everything is a tool. I don't care if you take ecstasy, if you meditate, you go do acid, you do Bitcoin, you do   whatever. They're all just tools, and they all have to get assembled together to make a whole solution.   You know? And so there's no,   oh, we're gonna make this great new society just because we read a book or just because we have a tool. If we don't know how to use it at scale intelligently and safely, it's just gonna sit in the toolbox, you know, and and not help all the people. And so it's gonna help the few. And so as educators and   people who are out there, you know, talking about these subjects that other people are like, oh, I don't wanna get banned from Twitter, talk. Like, raise your voice. You know? Like, people need to, like,   stop allowing these cracking   string monsters to control us. You know? And people are did you just see the thing that happened with the dude in the UK who just got arrested for making a comment on Facebook?  

You know, Peter was like, oh, you don't have First Amendment rights in the UK. I'm like, oh, I I didn't know that.   So   the thought police are out, you know, and so we can't let this stuff keep eroding. And that's what they're gonna keep doing here in the States if we let these nut jobs in office.   You know?   I'm not poll I hate politics so much, it makes my skin crawl, but I feel like   this is scary, like, what happened? Like, they're just installing somebody and so because a dementia patient can't do his job.  

[00:33:10] Unknown:

You know? Like, what the fuck? You know what the saddest part about this shit is? That, you know, instead of you, like, as the beautiful woman you are, like, to go and enjoy your damn life, you're sitting here having to, like, fucking   talk about this stupidity   on a fucking podcast because   people are such losers that,   you know, as you said,   there's a fucking   hyena   in a presidential race. Like   so, like,   man. You know,   your your natural instinct around politics is accurate. It's icky. It's icky. It's it's not it's not a women's domain.  

[00:33:47] Unknown:

No. And we should be doing the things that we do best is make the world beautiful. We should be expanding beauty in the world, expanding love in the world. You know? And it's women in the police force. Oh my god. I know you posted that. So the let's let's chat about that for just a minute because I'm   I'm not for or against it. I'm not for or against women in the military.   You should be against  

[00:34:09] Unknown:

it. Yeah. It's difficult. Why would you be why would you not see? But this is exactly what I mean. This is the this is why women don't get the vote because you can't vote. You you're neither for or against it, which is a non vote. So it is Here, if if I were the police chief, if I were the military chief, right, if I got if if you gave me the magic wand and I got to be the decision maker,  

[00:34:29] Unknown:

I would let the men be big, strong men and go do the things that you need to do in the police and the military that strong men can do. I would let women perhaps be,   the ones that can come and be the peacemakers and calm the situation down and talk to people   and not put them in a place where they have to be, you know, like look at the Secret Service, like the 5 foot 2 girl. Like, come on. Like, that's retarded. And so there's no reason I don't care if she's got a gun. She shouldn't be protecting a 6 foot tall man. Men should be protecting men, you know, and they should be protecting women. And so,   you know, unfortunately, there are situations where the men show up, they're jacked up in certain, you know, a distress call, a mental health distress call, for example.  

And instead of   having the calmness and to diffuse the situation which women can do sometimes better, not always because we're emotional obviously, but we're also,   Hey, what's going on? The   guys get freaked out and they shoot a person who's having a suicidal breakdown instead of allowing the situation to deescalate. So there's gotta be some kind of an intelligent common sense blend where women can participate   in the world   of protection   in a way that is suited for their natural instincts and their natural abilities,   you know, instead of trying to get them to be equal to men because they are not and they never will be and they shouldn't be, you know? And I think you spoke about this with Efrat about, you know, it's not about being equal, it's about being fair,   You know? And we don't want everything to be I don't want equal rights. I want fair rights.  

You know? And so   sorry. I'm ranting.  

[00:36:05] Unknown:

That's okay. But, I mean so,   like,   I guess the   the military's role or particular roles in the military that are more   violent and confrontational   should be reserved purely for men. Yeah. And   you know, maybe   you allow   negotiators   or something like that to be women, but usually men are much better negotiators anyway. So They're calm. Men are calm. They're just they're stoic.   Here's the line item. Let's do this. I I don't know where the exact role is.   You know, but that but that sort of starts to come down to semantics. Whereas in general, generally speaking,   like, the kind of women that'll be attracted to   the roles that are more masculine in nature, the women who have some issues that they need to fucking solve.  

Or granted, yes, there are some exceptions. Some women are extremely good at that.   But as I said, that is like a a fucking fraction or fraction or fraction. And maybe you can build a system where you capture exceptions,   that are   whatever the female chromosome is.   Exx.   And XX. So, you you know, if you capture that,   you know, capture someone who genuinely is elite and can actually compete with men, but might have an excess chromosome. Yes. But I, you know, I I think if you establish that that kind of a criteria, I'm pretty fucking sure it'd be 0.00001%   in most fields that are,   physical in nature.  



[00:37:36] Unknown:

I agree. The physical in nature is a difficult one and   there are some exceptions and okay, go for it, ladies.   Not everybody wants to go have kids. Not everybody wants to be the homemaker.   That's fine. What can we do for these folks that have different choices that are   still gonna allow the safety to be upheld in communities, in protecting our officials, etcetera, in protecting our country. So   that's what needs to happen. And so   I agree with you. I mean, I'm super compassionate. I live in Boulder, Colorado   and we have a total shit show here. And I don't know if we've spoken since last time, but after COVID, of course, everybody wants to allow everyone to go camping   in the middle of the park and then shoot up heroin right across the street from the,   the high school.  

Okay? And so we've got that going on all over and it's still just remnants of this everywhere and it's disgusting. You know, I don't want my kids near that school. My son's taking a year off just because I'm like, don't you don't have to go to that school. Like, I don't want you being chased by some dude, some guy with meth and a knife because you're crossing over his campground.   That's the public park.   There was this is what this is where I'll ask you this. So a couple years ago, almost 2 years ago, we had   some school shooter threats at one of the high schools. There's 2 high schools here.  

And, of course, they had the lockdown, evacuate, da da da da da. And a couple years ago,   they took out the police officers and the armed guards around the schools   because   the minority community was like, We don't like this. You're picking on us. It's like, No, we're keeping everybody safe. And so, of course, it was all women trying to say, We don't want guns near the school. We don't want these kids to be scared. And so, we pulled out the guns. And so, now, we've got shooters who show up and scare the kids with real guns who wanna kill them. And so Classic.   Yeah. I know. It's fucked up. And so what happened was, of course, some of us parents, we were like, oh, let's put together a little task force and go to the school board and talk. Guess how many dads showed up?  

2.   All women, 2 dads. Where the fuck are the dads showing up for protecting their children?   And this is where I wanna call men who might be listening to this. You need to get involved and protect the families. Like, there's no reason that the women should be making decisions about how the the school is protected. Nobody's protected. You've got rent a cops out there who the kids could just outrun and beat if they've got a gun, you know, and so it's like I know. But it's really it's really tricky. So  

[00:40:03] Unknown:

I'm I'm not here to make,   excuses for men, but   the   the the problem with men stepping in is every time they have stepped in, there's a me too scandal. There is a misogyny,   framing. There is,   your mansplaining.   You know, there's there's no room for men's, like,   authority here, all this sort of shit. So it's like the the the responsibility has slowly by slowly by slowly been stripped, stripped, stripped, stripped.   Men are the,   the dangerous species. Testosterone is bad. All this sort of stuff. So, like, you you're you're asking men to step into   a framework that is hostile to them where their opinion   is not gonna matter anyway.  

So, of course, they're gonna check out. So this is the thing. It's like women spent the last fucking 100 years saying that we wanna fucking run the world. The future is feminine. The future is for women, all this sort of shit. And now they got it, and everything is fucking falling apart. And then they're like, where's all the  

[00:41:01] Unknown:

men?   No. And I I agree with you. There's there's there's been a pendulum swing. I always think about things with the pendulum. Right? Everybody gets tired of being super oppressed and and   and pushed down and then they're gonna reject that and go way swing over the other area. So there's always somewhere in the middle where it's like this is where common sense lies, hopefully.   But how do we stay more in the common sense zone and not in the lunatic zone over here for any of it. And I agree. Like, I have a friend who,   she's never been married. She's a Bitcoiner. She's, you know, in her forties.  

And, you know, she hung out with me a little bit and she started dating this guy and he opened a door for her. And she was just like, I don't need you opening the door for me. And I'm like,   dude, he's trying to be a gentleman. Why would you be so   like, let him be a man. And I'm independent. And, yes, you are. And so when you're talking about   the women who have to step into that masculine so much, they get accustomed to it and then they forget to relax and allow themselves to receive   and to be protected. But   when men don't protect the women and they have to rise up and protect themselves,   it's very difficult to sit and say, trust me. I got you, babe. You know? Especially if women have been hurt by men in the past. You know? And so it's not you're right. There's not an easy solution,   but women need to chill the fuck out and men need to step the fuck up as far as I'm concerned.  



[00:42:24] Unknown:

Yeah. And that requires,   unfortunately, it requires I mean, maybe I shouldn't say unfortunately.   That requires   some real restructuring.   And some of the restructuring comes back to stuff like,   just outright banning of stupid sports,   outright   removal,   first of all, of,   you know, things like voting rights. And, like, for example, there should there should be absolutely no fucking circumstance   in anywhere in the world where a woman should be in politics or running for office, for example. Like, that should be completely fucking outlawed. Like, so all of these things, it sounds really fucking harsh. It does. These are the things. If you wanna if you want to push the responsibility   back on men, you need to remove the responsibility from women. And what'll naturally happen   is,   the pendulum will start to swing back to normality because the responsibility will fall on men to do what they fucking need to do. So, you know, like, this this is it. The the medicine   is bitter for a reason.  

Like and if you want men to   lead Keep going. Get out of the way. Like, that's that's what has to happen. Okay. Well, there what about  

[00:43:32] Unknown:

again, because the idea of that, obviously, whoever's listening on this is their head might be exploding if they're a woman, like, what do you mean take away my voting rights? You know? Or what do you mean they shouldn't be in office?   What is,   what is the,   yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   What is the   hold on. There's a comment here. What is the I read it. I should yeah. You should chat about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   What is   a middle ground? And here's why I'm asking you this, Alex, because we're never gonna go get   certainly not here in the United States. Women are not gonna go, I'm gonna let you have my voting rights, and I'm gonna let all the women come out of the office. So we know that that will never happen here in the United States certainly while we're alive.   Women need to have their voices heard. Women need to have you know, we have a unique way of being represented,   you know, and we have a unique way that men don't understand unless we're communicating with each other about how to care for us, you know, and how to protect us and what feels safe and what feels threatening.  

And so   how do we   try to go into the middle a little bit and help the women, you know, be more feminine and give them more space to do, you know, what we're born to do and let men step in without feeling like, uh-oh, I'm gonna get assaulted by all these crazy women calling me a misogynist or whatever because I'm speaking up and I actually care about them and wanna keep them safe.  

[00:45:02] Unknown:

I don't know. Like, there there's a there's a there's a fallacy in the idea that,   for women to be heard, that they need to be in,   political positions. That that's completely wrong. For for all of human history, women were heard because   guess where women are? Right fucking here in my ear. Right? I'm married. Okay?   A woman's here. Okay. So I'm always hearing her. That's not it's not a problem. There's no there's no, like, lack of,  

[00:45:30] Unknown:

women being heard. It's it's never it's never been a thing. Like But what about women who aren't married, Svetzke? Like, what about all the women out there who don't have a man to Honestly, I'm sorry, but their opinion doesn't count as much. Like  

[00:45:42] Unknown:

Oh my god. I'm sorry. Like   like Oh my god. Thing is, like,  

[00:45:48] Unknown:

I I I know this is oh, man. Oh, I love you. No. This is good. It's it's like, this is important stuff because we're fucked right now. And and and the reason I love you is because you and I can agree to disagree on things, but I think we share most of our common,   philosophy  

[00:46:04] Unknown:

about stuff. Before a woman's gonna have an opinion about how the world should run, she should go and get married, build a family, have a husband, all that sort of stuff. Like, do that. And maybe later when she's more mature, 40, 45, 50, whatever, she's done that part Mhmm. You know, like you, you're you're a far more mature woman. Like, having a fucking 25 year old girl run around, you know, politicking   is fucking dumb. Right? Or having a 25 year old man around politicking. He doesn't know what the fuck is up. His brain's not even developed yet. Fair. But he can he can definitely be an apprentice and learn the game of power because that is a man's game. But,   the the the point is that, you know, if if a woman wants to do that later in her life, fine.  

But   if she remained, for example, single and family less and childless and everything like that,   up until she was 50, she still has no place ever getting into fucking politics because she clearly made mistakes,   in her life and didn't fulfill her biological duty.   So so therefore, like, irrelevant fucking,   opinion. I'm sorry. So,   the so so the women's opinion who's who who matter are the ones who are married, who have kids, who built something, and they are in their,   husband's ears, and they have   extraordinary fucking influence. Extraordinary influence. Like, the the the the archetypical stories that have shaped civilization,   the Helen of Troy and all this sort of stuff. That they're they're like, women have incredible influence over men. That that's never gonna change. They they don't need like,   having that influence inside a political domain   is a fucking distraction.  

It's not a,   it's not an assistance.   Like, their   influence is behind the curtain.   That that has always been feminine.   That that's how it's always worked.   And I think we need to figure out ways to move it back to there. And thing you know, small things we can do in, civilization like gyms, there should be no such thing as co ed gyms. There should be a men's gym and there should be a women's gym.   Schools, there should be boys and and there should be girls' stuff, separate.   What else? I mean, bathrooms,   very simple one. Yeah. Boys' bathrooms.   Girls' bathrooms.  

And,   like,   things like the DI stuff, you know, we need to remove all of that. I you know, it talks about, like, we need more women CEOs, all this sort of like, all of these quotas   need to all be fucking abolished.   Like, every single quota that is,   not,   like,   Merit based. Market driven. That exactly. It's not marketing. It should be merit based. Everything should be merit based. Completely fucking abolished. Simple as that.   Like, so,   you know, that that's not me saying, oh, yeah. No women in the workforce, all this sort of shit. No. Like, I actually,   there there are specific roles where women are fucking way better than dudes,   in in the workplace.  

Not many. I'm sorry. But there are specific ones where they're way better.   Yeah. There's different things. Work organization, etcetera. Like, they're fucking so much better. Yeah.   So so that being said, like, there there's small ways,   like the the   schooling,   gym, this, that. But, yeah, I fundamentally   believe politics   and   the,   like, that space governance   is a masculine   duty. It's a masculine responsibility.   And   the more   we push,   towards   men being the only ones there,   or   the only qualification criteria for a woman being that   she's a family woman,   has, you know, some sort of,   relevant life experience or whatever, and is above a certain age, then maybe, or she's,   she's got property of some sort, she's wealthy, whatever the case is, you know, there's some sort of,   a level of life experience that comes with it. In fact, that should also come from men. It's like you do not get a vote, for example, if you don't own property. You don't get a vote if, if you don't have wealth. Simple as that. Like fucking 0. The peasants never got to vote in the past. And that should also be instituted. So this isn't just about women. This is about anybody who has   no fucking property, who has no wealth should get zero fucking vote because they are they are recipients   of wealth. They're not, they're not producers. They're not they're not, adding to the system.  



[00:50:29] Unknown:

And how do they ever get to a point? Like, at some point, obviously, we need to get people to be contributors.   Right? And so if they don't feel like they're represented,   it's just be represented. What's what's the threshold for asset, you know, holding that you think would be just throw out a number. How much assets should you have? 100 bucks, a $1,000, a Bitcoin? What?  

[00:50:51] Unknown:

I mean, maybe on a Bitcoin standard, like, 10,000,000 sets. I don't know. Like, I'm just making up a fucking number or something. But, you know, realistically, maybe,   your vote should be proportionate to the amount of,   I don't know, wealth you have.  

[00:51:06] Unknown:

My god. This is another episode.   I mean, why not? I know. I think it it's interesting, and I do   this is a whole another this is a rabbit hole. I won't pull this thread too much because this is another you said, you've got a time a hard time stop from about 3 minutes. So this is an interesting question. Another 10 minutes. I can go another 10 minutes. Okay. So so   so let's let's let's I wanna pull this thread right now really quick then if that's what you think.   We're in the United States right now, obviously.   I am. You're not in   we'll use this as this example.  

I know most of the people in my life, you know, that aren't Bitcoiners   are in debt.   Their assets are minimal, if not anything. They work at least one full time job. Some of them have side hustles. Some of them are entrepreneurs that have a couple different businesses, and they're all struggling, obviously. And so   they keep going deeper and deeper in debt, and it's because, obviously, we have this, you know, horrible financial system and this horrible monetary system that's happening. And so   how can we just   that comment that you said that we need you know, you should have some amount of assets in order to vote? Because some people who are working their butts off and they're playing the game and they're doing it fair and square, but they're playing in a polluted, corrupt system. Like, how can those people ever get to a place where they're gonna vote?  



[00:52:27] Unknown:

They need to find they need to play the game better. They need to make money or like, the the last thing they need to do is get involved in politics. They should be looking after their own shit and making money and, like, building wealth.  

[00:52:38] Unknown:

But what if they don't have the money, keep making the stupid policies that keep them in the position which they're in, which gives them no ability to accumulate wealth? Then they need to revolt and kill people, not vote.   Oh my god.  

[00:52:50] Unknown:

That's the way it was always done. Well  

[00:52:54] Unknown:

Oh, you know I love   you. But that we don't wanna promote violence. I mean, we're not Yes. We do. Yes. We do. You need violence. You need violence. I'm sorry. We've spoken about this before. Right? We did. When we were, you know, in El Salvador, and we were talking about Bitcoin for peace, you're like, we don't want peace. Peace is stupid. Men need to have violence and all this. So I I   I I I I I've digested that still. Like, I think about that conversation a lot, and I think about my son. And and, you know, he's a boxer.   He's got all of his testosterone coming online and all the stuff that comes along with it,   and he's directing all of that energy into something that, you know, is building him up mentally and spiritually and physically. And so I absolutely admire him for that.  

And so as I've been witnessing his transformation   into a young man,   I'm like   and I because I see his energy doing this a lot and he's like, agro with me as his mom because he's just got he needs to have this   release, you know.   And and I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah. No. This is you do need to go get in the ring. You do need to push up against something else and have that resistance like you said.   So,   you know, right now, it's obviously at scale not being done in a healthy way. And then things come out sideways and a lot of innocent people get hurt. So instead of strategic violence, it's it's like blanket violence, you know, and and that's not obviously a solution either.   So  

[00:54:18] Unknown:

Yeah. Look. The to come back to the   and I'm very happy that your son is, is going through these rites of passage because they're extraordinarily important. This is like how a boy turns into a man. Yeah.   To   your prior point about   oh, sorry. Well, to my prior point, sorry, about   the the the, like,   the people who get the vote are the ones with the wealth is that when you think about what voting is, voting is the mechanism of collectively collectively deciding where resources go. That's essentially what it is. Like the collectively deciding on rules and,   where the resources go. Now why should the people who haven't been able to produce   a surplus of resources   have any say in where the resources of others   are going?  

Interesting. That's a great point. I like it. Literally how it all works. So so as a result, like, the only people who should have   the ability to say what happens with the resources   should be the ones who have the resources, and their say should be proportionate to the amount of resources they've contributed.   So Elon Musk should have way more fucking votes than your eye.  

[00:55:24] Unknown:

I agree. I would prefer that Elon Musk has more votes than you or I.   He knows how to manage things at scale and I do not. So I would a 100% agree with that. If if I could give Elon Musk   my votes or at least know that he's got more say so because he's more intelligent with how he's managed resources, fuck yeah. I think that's interesting.  

[00:55:46] Unknown:

This is have you seen this in play anywhere in the world? I mean, this is this is ancient civilization was built like this. So original   democracy in Greece was the landed gentry. That was it. You you had to you Landed gentry. I I'm I'm not a historian. Basically, the the the the people who owned the land   were the ones who voted. That was it.   Got it. Nobody else. Like and that and that's in fact, that that's exactly how it was all the way throughout history.   Universal suffrage suffrage is modern.   It's only existed for the last 100 years, 200 years. That's it. Since the end of the French Revolution. So circling back to the beginning of the conversation about  

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inheriting land or inheriting wealth from your family. Right? And if it's the first born son or you know,   in today's age, I don't know how it was back then and how much pressure was put on people to uphold   the the integrity of that wealth to keep it moving forward and not squandering things and being a degenerate.   Right now, we have a lot of people who are high net worth individuals who give their children,   Here's your inheritance, Bob,   and then they go do blow down hookers and cocaine,   you know, and they turn into these just because mentally,   if you do not earn something, you don't value it as much. And so   that to me is an is an issue because if if you're just talking about people who are, you know, able to vote who have assets and wealth and if they inherited that wealth and didn't earn it, then are they truly the people who should also be voting?  



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That yeah. That definitely becomes tricky. I mean, so we we built institutions or we built norms and customs,   throughout   throughout the centuries that we've all forgotten in the modern age since we started,   demolishing these   these concepts, these norms, these cultures. But basically,   the   the the duty or the responsibility,   for carrying the wealth came with an understanding. Like, so so the the firstborn was nurtured   and basically,   educated on their lineage, where they came from, the responsibility for carrying the family forward, and, like, the the the continuation   of the bloodline.  

It was it's very different framing than what we have today, which is here's some money and go have some fucking fun. Like, in our various society, there's a there's this sort of, focus on happiness and living now. We used to have a sacred duty to God   to, you know, these ideals such as chivalry or bushido.   Like, these these   concepts existed, and they were the moral framework within which   the firstborn child, primogeniture,   would come in and   deploy, manage capital, etcetera. So so there was a there was a moral framework around all of this. We've thrown all of that out because we don't believe in fucking morality. We don't believe in men or women. We don't believe in any of that sort of stuff. So it's all it's all become miasmic   as opposed to structured and ordered. So that and this is why   to, you know, go back to what you asked earlier. It's like, what do we do? I don't fucking know at this point. Like, there's so much wrong. Like, everything is so inverted. Everything is so fucked up.  

You know, it's it's it's impossible to know where to start. And all of these things add to the problem.   You know, the the whole women in voting, women in sports, you know, like, all this stuff that triggers people, it all has a,   negative knock on effect with everything else.   So, you know, some of these things really just need to be   reversed. And there's like some of these things are just gonna they they're gonna they're gonna be bitter medicine,   but unless they're done,   we're we're not like we're gonna be you know, there was a great video that I saw yesterday about, the immigration thing with the gumbos.  

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I didn't watch that, but I saw it and I I I was going to see it. Definitely definitely take 5 minutes out to watch that. It's fucking fantastic. But it it just basically  

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the there's a visual representation with gumbos, where each gumbos is a 1000000 people.   What,   the people under $2 a day, what people of poverty, like, how much we're looking at in terms of the world. And it's like something like 3,000,000,000 people, and how much, like,   you know, US national immigration is on a yearly basis, like, a1000000. And then for every time the US brings in a 1000000 people in immigration to help them, another 80,000,000 globally   of the exact same profile   are born and,   come into the world. So it's like this this losing fucking battle where immigration will never fucking solve anything. And in fact, if anything, it weakens,   the structural integrity of the places where we bring immigrants in from because   they're generally the kind of people who may have been change agents in their local environment. So so it's like it's all fucked up. But basically, the the the premise of it is that,   you you think you're doing something, but you're actually not. And this is why,   when like, we might go and fix the money,   But if we have,   other structural issues where we don't have these moral frameworks, where we have, you know, women in positions where they're telling men what to do and all this stuff, where we have these inverted polarities and inverted hierarchies or no hierarchies and everything, fixing the money ain't gonna do shit,   because we'll end up just going back and printing money again. So it's like   the the there's a bunch of things that need to,   that need to occur. And   yeah. I mean, ultimately, honestly, it's,   it's not up to   like, since this has been a men and women talk, it's not up to women to fix it. It is up to men.  

But if men are gonna fix it,   just be prepared. It's not gonna be nice.   Well, but but it is It's not gonna be nice. It's gonna be violent and it's gonna be fucking strict. It's gonna be harsh.  

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But what women are gonna have to do is get out of the way. Well, we have to get out of the way, and we have to to also like you said, Alex, like, if if you're coming in to a hostile group of women who don't want you to do this, you need to have some level headed women. And I'm not suggesting that I agree with every single one of your points, but I do agree with a lot of it.   The women need to do their part to help the other women to get Mhmm.   That's right. Chilled out and say, hey, guys. Let's check this out. Let's have a conversation, ladies. And so   rather than, you know, the men are gonna come in with their, you know, their their caveman clubs and take over,   like that's never gonna work, you know? And so we have to have something where, yes, come in and be strong men and do what you're meant to do and what you were born to do, and us women need to come over here and start talking with each other about,   Let's let the men do this,   but there's a trust issue right now,   you know? And again, there's been a trust,   a huge break in the trust because   I think, you know, we've had this downfall of the family unit and women have to go work full time to go make sure that their children can eat along with their husbands. And if there's obviously a divorce or violence, now they're single. I'm a single mom. And so,   I don't have a man taking care of me, you know, with all the things that I'm supposed to be doing. And so, that was obviously a big   problem in my life that I allowed to happen and I could have handled it totally different. But now, hindsight is 2020 as we know.  

So   we need to, especially as older ladies, as as, you know, mature women, as you called me,   we can come and participate in this peaceful revolution on our end so that you guys can get more of your strength and not feel like someone's gonna yell at you for opening the door. Yeah. You're the wise mama,  

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and you you form the glue,   between   these,   these different like,   you're basically, you've been there, done that, and   you   can relate   to,   the women in a motherly capacity, but also to the men in a, in a motherly capacity. And men have an extraordinary, like strong men, particularly, not not the fucking brats and the losers and the parasites and Yuval Hararis. Right? Like, strong men can relate and have a relationship,   with beautiful women like you in the sense, like, you know, that there's this kind of motherly relationship, which is why I think from the beginning, you and I just connected. Right? Like, I can be an asshole. I can say all the things I wanna say, but, you know, we have,   you know, like a love for each other. And that's because,   you know, I I can say all the things I say,   but   still appreciate   that,   you know,   you play an extraordinarily   important maternal role.  

Would I hire you to be the CEO of my company? Absolutely not.  

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Would I want to be or am I qualified? Fuck no. I would never want that. Me personally. Other women, maybe, but definitely not not little old me.  

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So my my point there is that,   you you know, you're you're right insofar as   the   the dudes are gonna have to come in, and there's gonna be wise,   mamas like you   who have the life experience   and the scars   and the ability to,   withhold   their compassion or direct their compassion, which means you're going to have to   help   open the space   for the men to come in and take control of the ship again. Because, like, if you imagine, like, we're on a we're on the Titanic,   and everything's fucking burning. We've hit the the the iceberg and everything like that, and there's a bunch of fucking women running around, fucking yelling, screaming, and there's fucking chaos everywhere. Right? And the dudes need to get to the fucking,   to the lifeboats and get them out there so they can get people off. But the women are in the way because they're deciding that they need to put their,   committees together and, you know, we need to, like, balance out the the the burden. It needs to be painted nicely and all this sort of shit while the whole fucking Titanic is coming down. Right? So it's like women, like, you need to come in and say, ladies, look, you're beautiful. We love you. Please shut the fuck up and get out of the way and let the guys just go and handle this. Otherwise, we're all gonna die. And that's kind of the  

[01:05:43] Unknown:

the role. Yeah. And we don't wanna die, obviously, and but we also have our roles. Let's let's talk really quick because I know we're we're over time.   Share with the the audience about the Bushido of Bitcoin, and it seems like there's probably some overlap. I can't wait to read this or listen to it. Are you gonna record it because I'm a listener instead of a reader?  

[01:06:01] Unknown:

I will at some point, but the the the reading will come out first probably  

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late September or something. Okay. Good. Do you wanna share with the audience a little bit about just give a synopsis of what it is and why you started it?  

[01:06:14] Unknown:

Well okay. I'll try to be quick. So I started it, off the back of a podcast, Eric Kayson and I did a couple of years ago.   And it was originally an attempt to look at,   so bushido,   means way of the warrior, and it refers to   a code of conduct or a code of virtue that the samurai who are the warrior class of Japan or the knightly class of Japan lived by. And there was a difference between a samurai and a bushi. Like a samurai was,   a hereditary warrior, someone born into that lineage, but a bushi was a samurai who,   lived by this code, basically. So someone of a   of a moral of a moral character or a virtuous character. So I wanted to look at the parallels between Bitcoin values and samurai values. But in the end, the book evolved way away from that. Like, what I realized is that,   you know, I I kind of became quite disillusioned with the whole Bitcoin movement, and realized that most of it is just a fad, a scam, a fraud, and all this sort of stuff. So I what I what I looked at was something deeper, which is,   and this is what the book has basically   become is   a look at   what are the virtues   or what is the code,   that we should look to establish   on a new socioeconomic   standard.  

And I believe Bitcoin will be the new socioeconomic standard,   and it will provide a, an economic framework,   that is different to the current socioeconomic framework.   And in order to win   on that new   standard   or within that new framework,   we will require a different set of virtues,   whereas, you know, the the kind or or a different set of behaviour. Like, the the way I conceptualise virtues is principles and   behavior.   The the the behavior that we have today, like, the way to win   on the current socioeconomic   in the current socioeconomic paradigm   is to lie, cheat, steal, fucking parasite, do all that sort of stuff. Mhmm. But on a different socioeconomic framework,   or paradigm,   there's a different way to behave. And I believe that we can find a lot of wisdom   from the   the cultures   that preceded the greatest civilizations on earth. And that's essentially what I look at the Romans, the ancient Greeks,   the Japanese samurai,   the Chris, the the west of Christendom,   all that sort of stuff. I look at what were the what were the principles and the virtues that underpin their cultures,   and what can we draw from those and project forward. So it's it's a it's a very long book. It's,   it's it's definitely it's almost like 30, 40% longer than the Bitcoin standard.  

And it's, yeah, it's a whole book on history.   It's a book on those virtues. It's a book on etymology. It's a book on philosophy, psychology, all this sort of stuff. And,   yeah, I   hit the virtues. I talk about how to integrate these things. I look at practices. I look at,   what the world will   look like moving forward.   And there's a lot of, yeah, unpopular opinions in there that'll be unpopular in libertarian circles, unpopular in Bitcoin circles, but that just need to be said.   And, yeah, I I hope it's gonna   shake the space up a little bit.  



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I can't wait for this. I know,   I think we had talked a couple of years ago when we first met, like I had been working on like this 11x Warrior Code concept for personal growth and,   you know, how are you identifying your own code as an individual because,   you know, we think we have these ways of living. Have we actually codified them? Have we actually written them down individually? Have we shared them? Have we claimed them? Have we declared them? And, you know, once we do that   in turn, you know, within ourselves, within our family, within the community,   then we will hold ourselves up to a higher standard of excellence and strive for that and not allow ourselves to just go, Yeah, whatever.  

I'm gonna just keep doing these older other behaviors that are really not in alignment with who and where I wanna go and who I wanna be. But,   so I love this. So I'm super fascinated to see what you've come up with. I can't wait to read it, and everybody definitely needs to check it out and preorder it at the bushidoofbitcoin.com.   And then Do you watch the trailer?   I I watched the trailer a little bit, and I need to do you wanna play it right now?  

[01:10:35] Unknown:

I mean, can can you do a proper play on here, or is it just gonna play through the screen?  

[01:10:40] Unknown:

No. I mean, it'll play through   I think I can make it bigger. And let's see. How do we do this? Yeah. Because those lines I mean, if people wanna see it, they can. Yeah. Go see it. Here. I'll set I'll put everything the link and everything is gonna be in the the,   in all of our show notes. And then so so make sure you guys go get this. And I when this comes out, I'll have you again on, and I'd love to talk about it after I've read it.   You wanna talk a little bit about Setlantis?  

[01:11:05] Unknown:

No. No need at this point. I mean, if people wanna go check it out, basically, we're trying to build a,   we're trying to use Nostr to   build a different kind of, social network, something that's more for nomading traveling, network state, parallel economies, and stuff like that.   So,   yeah, this is something that doesn't essentially exist,   in the world. So we're kinda making it up as we go. But, like, imagine if your social graph could help influence how you discover a particular location so if you're interested like if the people you follow the things you like and all that sort of stuff like if you're if you're you know you might be interested in psychedelics and surfing and all this sort of stuff I might be interested in bitcoin and beating people up, jiu jitsu. When I go to a city page I should see stuff whether it's events, content, people,   anything basically. All the stuff that I see should be more geared towards jiu jitsu and beating people up. Yours should be more for psychedelics for example. So   the the way you see the world, the way you see the cities   should be,   should evolve and should be really personalized. And I think we can use Nostra's social graph to enable that. It's very, very, very, very early days.  

But   yeah, it's a it's a concept that I think is gonna   become increasingly important, particularly as we wanna move towards this   parallel system, parallel economy. Like, at the moment, we're just using   shit like Telegram and meetup.com   and stuff like that, and it's all disconnected.  

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Mhmm. Whereas here, it might become it has a chance to become a unified home for something like that. So that's the plan. Yeah. I'm excited to see what happens there and how how the engagement, you know, will develop and how people wanna start participating and how you compare it with other things. It's true. Like when you're traveling, if you wanna be a nomad, even if you're just on a on a vacation, it's like I would love to just know like here's my Bitcoiners or here's my meditators or here's my music lovers or my EDM or la, la, la. People have got a kid my age, you know, if I wanna disclose that much information. But,   that would be so much more convenient and easy to make a decision,   you know, and then you can connect with more like minded and like, you know, visioned folks. So I'm excited to see what you guys are gonna do here. So,   I know some of our Denver people I think Wyatt was watching. He's one of the folks who's helping out with Atlantis over here in Denver. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. What's the legend? Yay.  

What?   Alright. Any final comments for our fabulous audience about men and women's sports, libido,   about life in general, what's going on? You know?   And thank you so much for taking all the time.  

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The the only thing I'll say is I know I don't rub everybody the right way.   But   look, sometimes   somebody's gotta say the   the the harsh truths that nobody else wants to say. So that's kind of the the role I end up playing. And I don't know why.   I don't know, like, what it is   inside me that when I see something that doesn't make sense,   I just have to blurt it out. So  

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I do. I think that's why we love each other. We're both like, what the fuck? This is not like, this is madness over here. Yeah. So  

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yeah. So I hope that people find some value in that,   your listeners, whatever. So, yeah, that's what that's where I'll leave it. And I'm sorry I'm a little bit low energy today. It's, it's a rainy day. I didn't get much sleep last night. So Well, thank you for taking time. This was a very interesting conversation. I went into a couple of different areas I wasn't expecting. So,  

[01:14:36] Unknown:

it's always a pleasure to talk with you, and, hopefully, I'll get to see you down in Brazil and, hopefully, El Salvador   and wherever else. Are you gonna go to Africa? Are you going to Africa Bitcoin?   When's that? It's the 1st week of December. I don't know. I that's my that's on my bucket list. So I'm hoping to get out there, but   I've never been to that. I I  

[01:14:55] Unknown:

doubt. Where where is it gonna be? Do you know? It's in Nairobi.   Yeah. I I doubt it. I think I'm gonna do the, the Latin America run, and,  

[01:15:05] Unknown:

and I'll probably save it until next year. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Alright. Well, hopefully, I'll get to see you somewhere along the lines, my friend, in person and say hello to your beautiful   goddess for me and give her a big hug.   I miss you guys and I can't wait to see you soon. And everybody, follow Alex, on x.com@svetzkebrights   or go check out Bushido of Bitcoin.   And if you're interested in traveling, go to satlantis.io,   and you can see what those guys are up to there. But, and then you guys, you can check out I'm gonna start doing a lot more newsletter stuff and then not I'm just rebranding this to the DJ Val Show just because I need to reach a wider audience, I think. I don't know. What do you think about that, Alex?   Yep. I think it's better. I think not having the word Bitcoin in the the title is gonna be a little bit more appealing because the minute I say that, some people are like, oh, interesting, but this whole other audience is like, the door shuts. Nothing happens. So so I'm hoping to help have some different conversations with different folks. So,   but, yeah, until next time, everybody. Peace, love, and warm aloha. And,   yeah, for tonight's fight, may the best man win, in the women's boxing.  

I had to say it. I couldn't resist, dude. It's, like, right there.  

[01:16:15] Unknown:

What a joke. Oh my god. I know. Right. I'm gonna get canceled for this.   Love you. Good to see you, honey. Thank you. Alright. Aloha, everybody.