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Is Bitcoin really a tool to help lift millions of folks out of poverty? 

Join Isabella Santos, Founder of BTC Isla, Get Based TV, Host of Bitcoin Backstage and and Wrong Think as she shares her inspiring journey into the world of Bitcoin, starting from her early aspirations of becoming a TV host to her current mission of creating a circular economy in Isla Mujeres, Mexico. 

• Overcoming societal expectations and financial hurdles
• How Alex Svetski played a pivotal role in her Bitcoin journey
• Motiv in Peru, an organization that uses Bitcoin as a tool for financial empowerment and education in impoverished communities
• Importance of financial freedom and self-sovereignty, particularly for individuals in economically disadvantaged situations
• Opportunities for self-sufficiency
• Flaws in the traditional financial system
• Importance of family and community
• Need for more inclusive and accessible financial tools 

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(00:00:02) Introduction and Episode Overview

(00:01:28) Meet Isabella Santos

(00:02:31) Isabella's Journey into Media and Bitcoin

(00:05:01) First Bitcoin Conference Experience

(00:11:42) Understanding Bitcoin's Value

(00:17:16) Financial Freedom and Systemic Issues

(00:24:03) BTC Isla: Vision and Mission

(00:33:02) Challenges and Community Engagement

(00:49:29) Advice for Aspiring Creators

(01:00:08) The Importance of Truth and Transparency

(01:06:26) Closing Remarks and Future Plans

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[00:00:02] Unknown:

Hey, guys. You need to tune in to this episode if you're interested in circular economies   in the world that are uplifting people out of poverty and helping them understand what Bitcoin is and how it can be a tool for freedom   and a tool for financial empowerment.   Isabella Santos is the founder of BTC Isla   and the cofounder of GetBase TV and she is in Isla Mujeres   and she's a very brave woman who is on a mission to help educate. She's also a wonderful   host and producer   of different shows   and, in Bitcoin. I'm just so excited   to have gotten to interview her.  

It's so fun listening to her backstory   about how she got into Bitcoin   and how Svetzky   hooked her up. So God bless Svetzky. No fear. Svetzky is here.   So tune in to this episode, guys.   Hey. Aloha. Get ready for an epic episode. And if you love it, please share it. You know why? Because you got the love. Enjoy, my friends.   Hey. Aloha, love tribe. Welcome to Bitcoin for Peace. This is DJ Valerie Belove, and I have somebody with me who is on a mission to create a circular economy. I'm so excited to introduce Isabella Santos. She's the founder of BTC ELA and cofounder of GetBase TV. Oh my gosh. Welcome, Isabella.   Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be in your podcast. I know. Me too. I'm so glad I got to meet you in Madeira and do that the panel with you for, the OnConference with me premier Bitcoin.  



[00:01:58] Unknown:

I know. That was so awesome. That was actually, like, my first time on stage and my first time being on like, doing a panel. So it was an honor to do it with all women   and all trying to, you know, educate other people.  

[00:02:14] Unknown:

I know. It was really powerful, and I think we all had a lot of different voices and different angles that we are coming to Bitcoin from. I mean, you're obviously stellar in front of the camera, in front of the microphone. Like, how did you start,   you know, your Bitcoin Bitcoin journey and doing media and, like, combining these two things? I want everybody to know who you are and what's your mission out there.  

[00:02:35] Unknown:

Well, media, I've been in media for years now. So I started out,   little you know,   funny story was when I was in high school, I   always knew I wanted to be a TV host. I used to see Juliana Rancic   on, you know, Fashion Police, and I was like, that's what I wanna do when I grow up.   And   fast forward to high school, I went to a private Catholic school, and my   my principal was a nun.   So she calls me up, and he's like and it was a small school, so everybody knew each other. You know? We had conversations with the principal all the time, and the principal calls me up   and she's like, hey, Sabella. What do you wanna be when you grow up? You know? What are you gonna do when you graduate?  

And I looked at her, and I was like, I wanna be a TV host. And the thing is, I have a very different tone of voice,   so she looked at me. She's like,   you can't do that. You have a really funny voice.   So   I was like, oh my goodness. You know, I'm 16, 17 at the time. My thought was, she's right. I'm not gonna be a TV host.   So I always put that on the back burner until I went to college   and I decided to, you know, study architecture,   whatever, because I was like, yeah. I'm not gonna be a TV host until, like, 2 years in. I'm like, you know what?   I don't care what people say. I'm gonna try to be a TV host, whatever.  

And I start, you know,   trying to get internships,   you know, Telemundo. I was in Miami at the time,   and I worked in Telemundo since 2018.   Okay.   I worked there, and I graduated   in the pandemic.   So I thought I was gonna get a job automatically in Telemundo. Telemundo is one of the 2 largest,   Hispanic TV channels,   and one of their headquarters is over in Miami.   So I got to work with them for a couple years until the pandemic happened,   and   then I decided, you know, graduated. I thought I was gonna get a job there. I didn't because, you know, nobody was hiring.   And   I stumbled upon   this   well, one of my friends knew a guy that   had a fulfillment hub, and they wanted to, you know,   explore the idea of creating   Ecom Daily News, which was an online newspaper for ecommerce, you know, people that are doing drop shipping or shipping, you know, from China. They all wanted to, like, know what was happening.  

So I pitched them the idea that I could manage the whole website, that I can, you know, cover all the events.   But because of this, it's how I get into Bitcoin because   I'm managing,   Ecom Daily News, which was an ecommerce newspaper,   and   my boyfriend tells me   Bitcoin.   There's a Bitcoin conference happening in Miami. You need to go cover that since you're covering, you know,   the   news   for ecommerce. And I was like, yeah. You're right. So I pitched to them the idea,   but at the time, the media passes were around $300.   So when I told them, oh, we just have to buy a ticket, it's $300,   no biggie, he looks at me. He's like, I'm not gonna pay $300.  

$300   to, you know, for you to cover the event. No. No. No. No. No. You gotta figure out how to go in for free because I'm not putting a dime.   And I'm like, Jesus.   Alright. So what do I do?   I go online,   and I start thinking, how can I get myself to go?   I emailed all the people that were, you know, doing the event and nothing.   So I decide to do a coffee stand   in front of the event. Because in my mind, I was like, everybody's gonna want free coffee. Everybody's gonna be lining up to go into the event. That way, I interview them, you know, get the vibe, ping, boom, bam, and leave. And as I'm, you know, planning this free coffee,   this coffee stand that was super cheap to do,   I decide to message all the speakers because I realized all these people were coming in and flying from different places.  

What I didn't know at the time was this was the first Bitcoin conference post pandemic,   and they originally used to have them in California. So it was the first one in Miami. It was in Wynwood,   and I decided to just DM   all the speakers.   I would even get blocked from Instagram because I used to use Instagram. That was, like, my holy grail. But since I would get blocked on Instagram, I would have to DM them on Twitter. And then that's when I realized all these people   were on Twitter. They weren't on Instagram.   And only 2 people responded, which was BTC Sessions   and Alex Vetsky.  

Yay.   Yeah. But BTC Sessions, he was like, yo. I'm too busy. I won't be able to do an interview.   Because in my little message, I was like, hey. I'm doing an like, could I do an interview for coffee? You know, this is a start up. You know, we wanna help out, whatever. And Alex goes, I don't like coffee. And I'm like,   okay. Fine. What about donuts? He's like, I don't need any sugar.   So I was like, fine. But can you do me an interview? Like, please, I'm already there. Like, you're gonna be here in Miami. I'll go to where wherever you are. He's like, no. I'm not gonna do the interview,   but why don't you come   to this meetup   in Brickell?  

You have to download Telegram, Signal, all this stuff. And at the time, I was like, of course, I'm gonna go. So I get all my gear, pack it up,   and I download Signal, Telegram.   I'm a normal person at this time. I did not know these apps existed, that privacy existed,   you know, like, at all. So I'd message him, and I show up right on time, like, 30 minutes before the event to this. It was, a ramen noodle place in Brickell.   And when I get there,   I hear this couple talking about Bitcoin, and I go up to them like, oh, are you guys here for the meetup? They're like, yeah.   Come sit. So they sit me down and they explained to me, you know, everything that's happening, how this whole thing works, and they were all here to meet up with Svetzky.  

Svetzky showed up, like, 3 hours late,   and,   obviously, like, I met him. We got talking, whatever. He's just like, you know what?   I like you. I'm gonna help you go into the conference.   And that's how I end up going to the Bitcoin conference because he took me in as his media person.   So it ended up being like, doing everything that I wanted to do. I did, like, the coffee stand   outside, then I went in, did some interviews, covered the whole thing,   and   I met Rizzo at that conference.   Obviously, you have to admit, like, it was the best Bitcoin conference to date. You know? Bouqueti announced, like, he was gonna, you know, make Bitcoin a legal tender. They had bolivars   all over the floor.  

I was like, this is insane. The people I would meet were the smartest people I ever spoken to. So I was like, something   is right. You know? I don't know what it is, but I'll figure it out later.   But since I lived there,   I would drive Smetsky,   Maddox,   and Francis   everywhere.   And they would take as their plus one to all the after parties, and I'd be like, okay. I I was their chauffeur, and they would sneak me in.   So I met the craziest people,   got orange filled the best way possible because we would drive around, and they would give me all these talks in the car. They're like, listen. The fiat system is this way. I I didn't even know what fiat was. So, like, the people are onto something, and they were all so passionate.   And,   you know, after that conference, I decided to sell all my stocks and put everything into Bitcoin.  

Obviously, like, I carried on with my life. I was still sort of, like, you know, in Bitcoin   in a way. I ended up getting, you know, a normal fiat job in the TV industry   as a TV host for another Spanish TV show called Hola.   And   6 months after the conference, I reached out to Rizzo for you know, somebody wanted to advertise for the magazine.   But he's like, no. We don't do ads for those type of people, but I see you on TV a lot. Would you want to do the YouTube for   for Bitcoin Magazine? And then the rest is history.  

[00:11:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh my gosh, dude. The I love your tenacity   and your positivity, and you're just like, well, I'm gonna do this instead. I mean, that's such an ethos of of us crazy Bitcoiners, and you're just like, well, I'll figure out a way. Okay. Fine. And and I think that's just so admirable. What what was it? What was your moment that aside from the passion and the, you know, okay, the boulevard are on the floor and all this stuff, like, what   meant you know, what clicked for you that you understood that, like, woah. This is legit. This is something you need to start spending your time and energy on. It's not just some, like, hyped up marketing scheme type thing.  

[00:11:50] Unknown:

Well, for me, mostly, it was the freedom,   and, also,   I hate being controlled.   And the thing is, like, as a normal person, you realize you   society puts everything you need. Like, there's a law for everything.   Everything you're we're being controlled   all the time. Yeah.   And   I think being able to break from that   and also one of, like, the big   moments was   my family is from Peru,   and we immigrated to the States, you know, for a better future.   You don't leave your home country because you want to. You leave because you, you know, wanna aspire for more because you couldn't make it there.   So the thing for me was putting your money somewhere that it doesn't depreciate in value   as well. So you have all these different aspects of Bitcoin   that   went with who I was as a person at the time. Obviously, I feel like as I've grown up and as I've been part of the industry, those things have gotten more they have got strengthened,   have gotten stronger.  

But at that time, I remember it was mostly   freedom and liberty, being able to, you know, be your,   like, be in charge of your own money.   Because you have to understand,   when you work for someone,   you get so much take of your paycheck taken away. And the thing is, like, for what?   You know, you they take out so much money and you don't even know where it's going. And the thing is, like, it doesn't even go to your bank account. They take it out before you touch it. So it's being able to work   for something and work for your future   and not having it left be like, for for not taken for granted, but, you know,   there's the only thing we never get back in our lives is our time.  

Yeah. So   working for something and having it you know, I used to at the TV channel, Ola TV, they used to pay me   $600 a week.   That's nothing. And I was putting in, like, 8 hours   a day. 8 not 8 hours, like, 8 or 9 hours because I would go in at 8.   I wouldn't take lunch, and I'd leave at 6. That's like 8, not 10 hours a day. Mhmm. And the thing for me was I'm working,   but the money,   I don't even see it. It's devaluing. I'm not even saving.   I barely had enough to eat. I barely had enough to survive. So you're working towards this money that   doesn't even give you the bare minimum to survive. So it's kind of crazy   that I feel like that there's so many aspects of Bitcoin once you go into the rabbit hole that you're like, uh-huh. This is it. No. This is it. Because I started Freedom, and now I'm going in, you know, with how I used to live at the time, you know, getting 600   dollars a week and being able being a like, not being able to survive.  

But the thing is, when I would put stuff in my savings accounts,   nothing like, I wouldn't be even saving anything.   And then until I decided to start saving in Bitcoin, and then you notice that that value,   even though   I invested in the peak of the market,   that value today has more value than it did at the time that I invested.  

[00:15:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. It's more purchasing power, obviously. But when we're saving in fiat, it's a it's a melting ice cube, and a lot of people don't get that because they think, oh, look, I have 3% in my savings account or I have even 10%   if I'm in a, you know, an index fund or something if I'm lucky. But   after you pay taxes and everything, you're not keeping up with inflation. And so you're what you think is this nest egg that supposedly growing isn't,   and your purchasing power is getting diminished on a daily basis. And so having scarce money, Bitcoin,   gives us the opportunity to save in something that will have purchasing power that grows over time instead of   diminishes. And I don't think a lot of people   get those dots, you know, and we're not taught that in school.  

You know? We're taught the wrong types of economics   in school. And so I think we're you know, our younger generation is at a huge disadvantage, but we're also at a huge advantage   because we have 247 access to information.  

[00:16:19] Unknown:

But Yep. Yeah. I think you get information paralysis. There's so much. You don't even know how to filter it. Exactly. And that's by design.  

[00:16:27] Unknown:

You know, I think it's by design that we have, you know,   a a a tidal wave of bullshit that's out there and lies, you know, because   that way, we can stay exhausted   and controllable   by the powers that be that want us to be little fiat slaves.   And so I think it's really important for all of us, whatever it doesn't matter how old you are or if you're a female, a male, whatever we are are, it's very important that we take personal responsibility to understand money because if we don't understand money,   we're gonna be living in a place of psychological   disempowerment.  

We have a place of not being able to provide for ourselves and our family which makes us feel   anxious, could feel depressed, could feel angry. And so we can't ever have a peaceful world   if we don't have peaceful money,   you know? And so   what's been your biggest moments   on the on this journey so far? And then we're gonna talk about Peru and Motive, and we're gonna talk about,   BTC Hila.  

[00:17:28] Unknown:

The thing like, it's funny you say that because it's a vicious cycle. I remember when I was working at Ole, I worked there for, like, 2   2 years, and I would meet   these women that are, like, 4 in their forties, have 2 kids,   and   they're stuck there because the system makes you rely on this paycheck that comes, you know, every 2 weeks. You get paid biweekly,   which is enough for you to feed your family, put them in day care,   and   you go to work and you do it all over again. So the thing is these people can't leave the rat race Yeah. Because they can't   bet on something else   because now they rely so much on it   that there's no way that they can back out. I remember looking at them, and I'm like, you   you can't be   stuck getting paid what you're getting stuck for the rest of your life. Yeah. And they do this for years   years, and they   are comfortable.  

You know? They give them enough, just enough so they that they're tired, that they can't even think. They're being overworked,   getting   it it becomes   kind   of this rat race, you know, in Rich Dad Poor Dad, what they say what he says, what Robert Kiyosaki says. It's like this rat race that you can't get out of because you're still chasing that next paycheck and you can't leave because you can't, you know, let your chill let your children starve. You have all these people depending on you. You have to pay rent. You have to feed them. You have to pay day care. You pay for day care because you can't take care of them because you have to work just to give plate to the table, and then   it's all connected. Then you leave them to these school systems that now the school system is trying to raise your kids, and you don't even have a say in it. So it's  

[00:19:19] Unknown:

pretty nuts what's going on out there right now. It's it's totally nuts. I was just interviewing Mercedes Juarez Mercedes Juarez a minute right before I got to interview you here, and we were talking have you read Seb Bunny's book? I'm gonna keep calling you again. It's so good. The Hidden Cost of Money. It's amazing. And   he talks a lot of and we were just talking this too with Mercedes, but   the the family dynamic   is destroyed now The having the ability to have a mom that can stay home with the kids and work when she wants to, but not feeling like you have to have a double earner income just to be kind of semi middle class, you know, and especially if we're dealing with people who are getting divorced because of money.   If they have to go now be a single mom or a single dad,   exactly what you just said. Now you're having the system   raise your family instead of you,   and so it's this it's like a teeter totter. So all of a sudden, instead of the family being the powerful unit, it's starting the system is starting to have more influence on us as individuals as we go through life. And so that's very, very scary because this is not a good system.  

It doesn't have the individual. It doesn't have the family first. It doesn't have,   prosperity first. It has slavery first, literally.   You know? I believe it's perpetuating   financial slavery and people don't   until you start to wake up and you get it, then you're like, oh my god. Like you said, you just keep going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, and you're like, woah. This is messed up. This is a lie. Holy cow. I've been bamboozled over here. You know? And   it it's very   it's disheartening, but it's also   it's exciting to think like, woah. There actually is a crack of light   that we can go toward, and it's an orange light.  



[00:21:04] Unknown:

You know? But it's super sad. Yeah. One of my friends was telling me their sister put their child   2 months after giving birth. So imagine a 2 month baby being put into the day care system. Okay. From that age, you're giving it to somebody else that's a stranger.   You don't know their values. You don't know how they are at home. You don't know how they're gonna take care of your kid. You know? People   forget that there are cycles out there.   There was a case I don't I can't remember where specifically,   but I saw that there was this teacher that would hit the kids   in day care. She would obviously, the person was arrested,   but she hated kids. And   the the kids   wouldn't have any bruce marks because she would hit them with the foam, like a foam thing, the you know, those foam floaties? Mhmm. So she would hit them and they wouldn't bruise, but the kids would hate going to school and the thing until they decided to put cameras   in the classrooms,   they realized that the teacher would push the kids. The teacher would, like, hit them. And the thing is,   how would you not know that that's happening to your kid?  

You know? Wow.  

[00:22:20] Unknown:

That is so sad. And I think   it it is so sad to think about that separation that happens from a mother and her child,   you know, when they have to do that because of money.   Do you know who doctor   Gabor Mate is?   He's No. A wonderful psychologist.   He talks about addiction and trauma and whatnot, and he wrote a book called Hold on to Your Kids and it's about   attachment.   And your 1st 3 to 5 years, you're really creating those attachment bonds with your child.   And so if you're not the one who's creating the attachment bonds   and you're giving it to daycare or someone else,   you know, the child doesn't have a secure sense of attachment and so they grow up in a sense of anxiety   and that carries forward into how they operate in the world. And so, they don't know who to trust and how to be. And so, just the simple act of keeping children home with their mothers   in those early formative years when the brain is still developing and they're getting that attachment going is so important. And for all of us Bitcoiners who are starting to understand, like, wow, we wanna keep that family unit   going, you know, more forward intact,   I I feel like Bitcoin is hopefully gonna help with that. It's not an end all be all solution, you know, but I think if we can figure out how to get our economies in such a place that we don't need to have 2 and 3 and 4 jobs just to survive,   you know, we're gonna have a healthier future   because these kids aren't gonna be   forced to be raised by strangers who, like you said, you don't know. Let's,   let's talk about,   you know, let's talk about your project. I'm really I want you to really start sharing, like, how did you come up with, you know,   BTC, Hila,   and what's going on with it? What's been, you know like, how did you decide, like, I'm moving here and I'm gonna go start a circular economy, and what does that mean for folks?  



[00:24:20] Unknown:

So   BTC   Isla is,   is the it we're here well, right now, I'm here on this island called Isla Mujeres. It's off the coast of Cancun. So you fly to Cancun, and then you take a ferry   to east lights 13, I think, 12 kilometers. I thought it was 13, but I realized it's 12 kilometers   long Okay.   And 3 kilometers,   wide.   It's right next to Cozumel. So a lot of people, you know, when they think of Cancun, they're like, oh, Cozumel. I know that island. Well, it's right next to it. You can take a ferry. It's very,   known to tourist.   So what happened was   over in December,   I went to shoot a documentary in Peru with   Julian Figueroa.  

So Julian is another Bitcoiner. He DM'd me last year in June, and he was like, hey, Issa. How are you?   I saw you're Peruvian. I'm gonna shoot a dog in Peru. There is a Bitcoin circular economy there. If you're down, come. You know, would love for you to, you know, be a part of this project.   And I've always wanted to give to, you know, give back to my country in a way, and I was like, what's a better way than,   you know, documenting   about Bitcoin   in Peru?   So I end up going with Julian to Peru,   and   we followed   Motive.  

Motive is this,   you know, organization   led by 2 people, Rick and Vale.   Vale is the,   like, in the ground guy that's making all the organization   there possible.   He's from Romania, and he moved to Peru.   He's not even Peruvian. That's the crazier part. He escaped communism in Romania, moved to Argentina,   and by the grace of God, ended up in Peru.   So now in Peru, he is in charge of doing motive. He helps these communities   and create circular economy, and what I fell in love with this project was that Bitcoin was just a tool for freedom.   It wasn't the main thing. They were teaching people   how to be   normal human beings,   and Bitcoin was just another tool.  

By what I mean is being normal human beings is that these people,   they're so poor   that they don't have,   you know, the basic   understandings on how to survive. These are people that don't know how to read. They don't know Spanish. They speak their own language, Quechua, their own dialect.   They,   are very deep into poverty because of the situation. And what we realized was not realized what they were explaining to me   was that in Peru   I hate to talk about my country in such a bad lighting, but it's the truth. You know? What happens is they're very jealous   species.  

So   what happens is if someone's a farmer   and they have kids, they want their kids to be farmers too. They're like, if I suffered, you're gonna suffer. You're not gonna go to school. And we see that, and that cycle continues to repeat. And there's alcohol in the mix. So a lot of the dads in these families are alcoholics.   So the mom is the one that has to take care of the kids, bring money. And the mom, when I say bring money, they literally have to give the money to the male supervision   from that household.   So it's   really, really,   you know, fucked up, the situation there. And what Motif is doing is   creating these communities and building these,   I don't know how would I how to explain it. But the not homes, but these communities,   like, literally, their houses,   and they have, you know, English classes for the kids, daycare for the kids so the mom can go out and find a job, or they teach the moms how to cook or bake so the mom can then sell that baked good for profit.  

They teach them how to plant so they can have their own food.   They   and all this is through Bitcoin.   So if the mom wants to be part of this community,   they you know, the   what he tells them, he's like, alright.   I'm gonna teach you how to sew. You gotta pay your teacher in Bitcoin. So they start making the individuals more sovereign and not be so dependent on other people. They're not like other charities   because they're not really a charity. They're an organization. What they're doing is they're helping these people   have a better life. You know? They're teaching them how to fish rather than   here, have the food. You know? We'll come again next week. So they're   what they what they were doing   impacted me so much that I was like, you know what? This is what I want to do. So when I moved to Islamucheres,   my original goal was, hey. I wanna orange peel the island. You know, that's super cool.  

But   there are very poor areas here as well, and that's what I wanted to do. I didn't just want to just, you know, orange pill everybody and be like, hey. Accept Bitcoin here.   So I came here, and I decided to also start teaching them about   Bitcoin with Bitcoin.   I applied. I ended up becoming a node.   And   from then, I started having my classes, and then   I've been orange peeling, you know, restaurants   and hotels   and little shops here and there so they can, you know, start building their own circular economy. And my goal is   to start   creating what Motive did in Peru and bring it here   in on the island.  

Obviously,   I need   help. Right now, it's just almost a one person show.   But as I'm teaching these classes, I'm already seeing which students are more interested that I can, you know,   have them help me   bring this vision that I have, sort of, like, bring motive to Bitcoin,   you know, BTC,   Israel.   Mhmm. But   it's a long journey.   Right now, I'm in just in the beginning, you know, where   my students are in class number 4.   Tuesday, we're gonna have class number 5.   And,   obviously, when you start something, you have this huge vision. You're like, oh, I'm gonna have 20 kids. Because I I have this group chat with all the people that were interested, and it's about, you know, 15 students that they told me that they wanted to come and take the classes.   Originally, at first, I thought I was gonna be teaching kids   because I was like, you know what?  

If we wanna make a difference, we have to start with the new generation rather than the old one since it's really hard to   change their way of thinking.   But I was completely wrong. I have students from 23   to 47.   And   right now, what I'm trying to do is have the 1st graduating   class,   and then from them, select a couple,   maybe I I already have, like, one student that I really do want to keep working with,   and maybe, hopefully, he can come and be part of the team and help me make this possible. Because the idea is to use Bitcoin as a tool for freedom,   not just,   you know, here. This is Bitcoin. Save in Bitcoin. Use Bitcoin. Blah blah. No. It's just like   that's one of the pillars. You know?  

Since we were talking about education and we were talking about family, it's like one of the pillars obviously is having financial stability, but also you have family, having a home,   and then being able to feed that family   and having your beliefs and being a good, you know, contributing person to society.   So it's a long journey,   but that's sort of my vision of what I plan to do here in   it all be happen because of, you know, motives.  

[00:32:28] Unknown:

That's incredible.   And I love how you've got this all organized in the phases of how you wanna operate and grow this project. I think it's super important to have a road map like this.   I I think I just saw I don't know if it was yesterday or recently. I think I just saw something that Bitcoin Beach was doing some grant programs for people with circular economies.   No way. Have you seen that? Yeah. No. I have not. Yeah. Let's get a hold of Ramon and Mike and see what's up because you might be able to get a grant, you know, because, obviously, that's that's what you're up to.   I know it's super   powerful, and I think I love what you said. It's funny. You and Mercedes both said the same thing about,   you know, teaching people how to fish and not just giving them a fish. Fish. Like, literally, she just she just said this example, like, an hour ago.  

But, you know, because she's talking about,   you know, how important it is to to target,   you know, people who have, like, something to offer already or that they wanna have a skill development   so that they can go be, you know, a contributing member   of their community,   you know, and not just like, here, give me a handout. Let me have some Bitcoin.   That never works. Right? And so it's like, how can we all become,   you know, self sustainable and contributors in our own ways,   in the world. And so I think that's super important.   Wow.  

This is amazing, and you are totally crushing it. I know I've been Yeah. Yeah. And and what's been your biggest obstacle other than getting funding right now?  

[00:33:58] Unknown:

Well, my biggest   obstacle,   honestly, has been recruiting students   because also,   so in Mexico, there's, you know, big narco it's a narco country in a way,   and they're run by the cartels.   So   when I first got to the island,   I met up within   with a Bitcoiner through the Orange Pill app. And when I told them my vision, my project, I was super excited. They were like, yes.   We love that. That's gonna be insane for the island, but you need to be careful   because, obviously, like, there's Narcos on the island,   and you don't want to promote that you have Bitcoin   or you know? Because the thing is you have to understand there's a lot of misconceptions   about Bitcoin.  

So when people,   you know, they don't realize that you can have Bitcoin without having one full Bitcoin or, you know, you don't have to have 30 Bitcoin   to be into Bitcoin.   And they were like, you just need to be very   careful. They suggested that I should, you know, just stick to word-of-mouth instead of, you know, opening   Facebook group   or stuff like that.   So for me, that's been obviously, like, my biggest obstacle because, obviously, I can't put flyers. I can't   communicate   to   the island,   the people that live on the island,   to come and, you know, take one of the classes.  

It's been mostly word-of-mouth.   And a lot of people through Twitter   and the orange pill app have seen the what I've been doing, and they've been on the island or they know someone on the island, so they tell someone. And I've had 2 people, you know, show up. 1 person was from the Orange Pill app who ended up crossing from Cancun to Islamucheres,   and he saw   he went to the class. He just hopped into the class and was super amazed.   He even brought his, his ledger to show them, this is where you store your Bitcoin.   Then I had   a couple that was from their orange build I mean, not orange build. They're Bitcoiners as well,   and they came to see the class as well. So it's been very helpful. I've seen I've been getting a lot of support from all the Bitcoiners, and it's unreal.  

My thing is trying to get new students. I'm already worried about how am I gonna teach my next, you know, class. Obviously, right now, I have   around   5 students. Sometimes they miss classes because, obviously, you can't demand,   you know, grown people to   a random Tuesday at 4 PM, leave their stuff, you know, to show up to a class that's around 2 hours long.   So I get that,   but that would be one of my biggest, you know, setbacks trying to get more people into the classes. So   yes.  

[00:36:47] Unknown:

And what are they saying? Like, what are what are the folks at Meet Premier Bitcoin saying? I mean, that's a like, you made a huge point. I mean, obviously, safety first. And if you're navigating the cartels or anybody that doesn't   understand Bitcoin that could   possibly hurt you or hurt your students or try to you know,   are are you obviously,   teaching Bitcoin 101 is one level, but, like, if we're thinking in terms of   I always think of, like, decoy wallets   or things where people can have something that there's a backup   in case, god forbid, the $5 wrench attack happens.  

You know? Are is that something that you're,   you're sharing with your students, or do you think you will share just for the, you know, for long long term safety purposes?  

[00:37:33] Unknown:

Well, the thing the way that   Bitcoin   has their,   program is the first four chapters   is full on   financial,   you know, monetary   history. So Mhmm. How the dollar became   the global,   monetary,   you know, money,   then   you go into inflation,   you go into the Bretton Woods agreement,   You go into, you know, the gold standard,   a very understanding of what is money.   And recently,   this Tuesday, we talked about actual Bitcoin. So on chapter 5, we go in deep into what is a miner,   how is Bitcoin, you know, put into circulation,   what's the difference between Bitcoin with a capital b, Bitcoin with a, you know, an lowercase b,   and it's all been gradually building up.  

Mhmm. So right now, I've taught them how to buy on exchanges. Obviously, you can   buy peer to peer.   And one of my things with the, you know, taking   Bitcoin,   onto on chain, until onto layer 1, because right now,   we're using it in lightning. I send them gift sads for coming to the class so they don't have to invest in Bitcoin   themselves yet. Obviously, I've taught them how to do it safely.   But   one of the things that   people forget   and I see all the time   in my comment sections and stuff is that people are like, oh, you're teaching them how to KYC   Bitcoin.  

You're   teaching them Lightning   is not real Bitcoin.   And the thing is,   obviously, I don't get mad at them because they don't know that these people don't have that much money.   So when you want to, you know, send your funds that are on lightning to on chain,   it's so expensive.   To mine Bitcoin, it's so expensive.   So the thing is,   these people win   or not win, but they earn around 200 pesos a day. That's   in dollars, that's, like, $17   a day   Wow. For working,   you know, a full 8 hour shift.   People make $17   an hour in the States. So this is their salary. If they were to buy Bitcoin on, you know,   and put it on chain and withdraw it,   it's so it's all their Bitcoin, so it's not worth it for them. So I'm trying to find different alternatives. I'm talking to some, you know, lightning wallets. Maybe if they can lower the fees for them or, you know, figure something out because, yeah, I know there's, like, this huge concern with lightning wallets, you know, not being private and whatever, but they don't care about privacy right now. You know? Some people just really don't care. I get that there's Bitcoiners   that are very passionate about their privacy   and being, you know, how much they have, everything. You know? They don't even show their face on the Internet, and that's okay.  

But they cannot,   you know,   bombard people   that don't care about that or Yeah. Can't even afford to care about that because   it's expensive.   It's expensive to buy Bitcoin that's non k y c. It's expensive to put it, you know, to maintain everything anonymous.   Not everybody has the money to do it, and that's fine, but they can't   keep well, they can do whatever they want, but the thing is, like, they're attacking these people that are trying to teach others how to use Bitcoin   when that's the solution that they have for the moment.   You know?  

Me, I'd rather them show them, like, you know,   what is lightning.   This is what's happening. This is what could happen. Yes. Your funds could potentially, you know, disappear one day or Bitcoin is very volatile. Like, today, it's worth, you know, a 1000000 pesos, and tomorrow, it's probably worth 2,000,000, and then the next day, you know, half a 1000000 pesos. You don't know.   So   the way that I'm teaching them is all the this is the options you have.   This is what could happen.   This is what I do.   And, you know, if you wanna use it, perfect. That's fine.   You know, especially with Lightning, what I do is I give them   Bitcoin on coin knots because it's super you know, they don't have fees, and at the same time,   they can't sell it or buy from Coinoz. So I think it's, like, the better option when you don't have fully grasped the concept of Bitcoin.  

Yeah.   And,   yeah, that that's pretty much my   I don't know. I kinda went on a tangent  

[00:42:22] Unknown:

on No. It's great. I mean,   you're doing such a great job, and I'm so impressed that you are taking this on. I mean, it's not easy to go and move to a different country in a different island and then go   start something like   you've obviously been a wonderful go getter in the media world and getting people's, you know, stories out, but then to take on the next level project to really start to integrate and implement,   you know, Meet Premier Bitcoin, which is the best.   You know, I love what they're up to on all these different levels. I I mean, you're you are a rock star, sister.   Seriously, like, I want everybody to support you and support this project.  

What do you need right now besides funds? Do you need teachers to come in? Do you need I mean, I know you said you need students. Great. Yeah. You need students. You know? But, like,   I think it'd be interesting, like, get some Bitcoiners down there and have a little,   hang time on the island with you.  

[00:43:18] Unknown:

I would love that. So Yeah. You know, if any Bitcoiners are watching and they wanna come help out, that would be unreal   because at the same time,   I have to travel a lot for work. Because the thing   is, this is more,   like, my passion project. Yeah. I have this thing in life. You have to do something   creative   that makes you money and something that you're giving back to the community.   So this is, like, me giving back to the community.   Obviously, I can't I don't survive from that. All the funds that go in go to the students   for either whether it's, you know, tools,   whether it's   paying them for going to class, because I pay them for their time, because I know it's not easy. They have better stuff to do. So I wanna teach them that when you're,   you know, investing in yourself,   they're you know, you get rewarded.  

And, obviously, like, having instant rewards and having them stay, you know, through the whole class, I know they're gonna be learning and paying attention.   And that's one of the the biggest things. Everything that goes in goes back   goes back to them. And if I can have people that want to come and teach them, that would be   insane   because   sometimes I I have to leave, you know, for work or something,   and I can't have a class that week. So if other people wanna come and teach, by all means, I have all   the, you know, utensils. They just need to show up and, you know, be part of it.  

[00:44:52] Unknown:

Oh my gosh. I'm like, I'll come and teach you what? I don't know Spanish. This isn't Spanish.   Oh, k. I'm not coming to teach. I don't know Spanish, so, I would not be the right teacher. But what an interesting What do you have you thought about having,   any of the folks from,   El Salvador and, like, you know, the graduates who've gone through the program to come up and perhaps do, like, internship type teaching with you?  

[00:45:18] Unknown:

I didn't know that was a thing. I don't know. I'm just talking about it. It's a thing that we're having a conversation with right now. I don't know. Well, that would be insane that I'm gonna reach out to them. I was just talking to   them on one of their spaces, but I never thought that would have been an option. You know, we is that we're so far away, and I never think, oh, someone can just, you know, leave their stuff and come and teach. If they can,  

[00:45:43] Unknown:

by all means, they're welcome. I I know. Wouldn't that be cool, though? Because you think about   I mean, you know, I was talking with Adam and John at me at Premier Bitcoin, and we're talking just about, like, okay, cool. Now could people young people have got the diploma. Right? Now what happens next? You know? And so some people will go back and teach   because they wanna keep perpetuating   the diploma and it's expanding. You know? And so   what a cool opportunity, you know, if you could get a grant to get somebody to come from, you know, El Salvador who's done it and then come up and stay for, you know, x period of time   and start to teach because that's that's super inspirational for your students,   right, because then they're like, well, maybe maybe I wanna be a teacher next round or something, you know, when I graduate. And and and so   I I think the the contagion of inspiration   is very important that we keep moving forward and not just la, la, la, we have hope and peace and love and granola, but   here's some action that we can go do in our own communities. And who better to teach   a community than other community members, you know, and people who've gone through it? So maybe,   you know, maybe you guys can chat. You can talk to Reyna or whoever. You know?  

That That would be neat to get somebody up there that, you know, could help participate.  

[00:46:58] Unknown:

Yeah. And it doesn't even have to be for the whole, like, you know, tech week program. They could literally come for a week, and we can even have, like, a week program, you know, back to back filled with Bitcoin. That would be ins like a Bitcoin crash course or, you know Yeah. Like an accelerator. You could have, like, a something that's more condensed and,  

[00:47:19] Unknown:

you know, information packed and certainly getting different businesses to come up, you know, and or come to your events and start to understand Bitcoin, you know, if you can get it. Yeah. I I think did you say that you'd have orange pill some businesses already?  

[00:47:33] Unknown:

Yes. As a people,   it's going good.   My thing is, obviously, you have to go to the owners first. Mhmm. That's my thing.   Talk to the owners, become friends with them,   and try to get them to, you know, just accept Bitcoin. I've been try I've been recruiting them to come to my classes, but they don't wanna come.   So only one of them, the owners of Myakita,   they've gone, and they're actually one of my students.   So that's been great.   They were they're actually, like, a hotel and a restaurant, so they accept Bitcoin in both. Yeah. Cool.   We have a steak house that accepts Bitcoin, but I cannot take the credit for that one   because   the one of my friends Bitcoin friends that I met through the orange pill app,   he had been going to that place forever and trying to orange pill the owner.  

So   when Julian   flew from Canada here, you know, it was like a week full of intense shooting.   We ended up going to eat with the Bitcoiner friend and the owner of the restaurant,   and that's when we all orange pilled the, like, owner. We're like, we're all we're only gonna pay in Bitcoin, and he even printed out the the receipt   with Bitcoin in it with, like, the Bitcoin equivalent. So that that's been super fun.  

[00:48:58] Unknown:

Oh my god. I love it. And I think I saw you had a post today. I think it was you. Did you have, like, a a a POS machine   or something? Is it an Azteco machine?   I don't know if that was your post or someone else's post. I forget. So maybe it wasn't your fault. Yeah. No. I   I don't I don't know. I don't think it was me. No. It wasn't you. Okay. No. No. My brain is, like, I'm old, so don't worry. Ignore ignore old Val old Val's brain.   Let's talk a little bit about,   so we've just got a few minutes left here. And I know you're not gonna be able to attend the,   the Bitcoin the virtual creator summit, but I would love to hear some, you know,   advice for people out there who might be interested in   starting their passion project or starting an opportune you know, whether it's education, whether it's media, but just what would you say to people out there who are maybe looking to start to get into the space, whether, you know, writing, podcasting, video, any kind of creator?  



[00:49:57] Unknown:

Well, one of the things,   since it's a creator podcast and a a creator conference,   it would just be there's   I know when you're just starting out,   you feel that there's a lot of competition. You're like, oh, someone's already done this. Someone already started this idea. I can't do that.   What I have to say to them is there's 8,000,000,000   people out there.   8,000,000,000   people Yeah. Ingest things in different ways, whether it's through books, through podcasts,   through movies. Like,   everybody   it's not like even if one person was dedicated to one of the creators,   there wouldn't be enough.  

Yeah. You know? So just not to be   scared to try something that's already been done because while you're trying these out, you're gonna end up doing what you're gonna be what you're supposed to be doing anyway.   So   if it is a podcast, if it is a book, if it is an article, if it's a show, or if it's,   you know, TikTok, whatever it is, it's just start.   And probably the first time you do it, it's not gonna be the best. Yeah. This sucks. Probably it's gonna It's gonna suck. Yeah. K. K. Comfort get comfortable with the suck.   Yeah. Get comfortable with the suck because   you can't   make your 1 hundredth episode without having your first one. And   the good thing is  

[00:51:26] Unknown:

it's all gonna get better from there. It does. And that's such great advice. Like, you do you know Camilla Camilla Campton?   Yes. This one. She she pushed me too. Like, I always give her credit because she's such a sweetheart, and   I was just like   you know, and this was a couple years ago. She was like, Val, just start start the podcast. And I'm like, well but I'm not an expert, and I'm not, like I don't know cryptography and that you know, she's just like,   just start. Like, start where you're at. It's gonna you know, you're gonna learn as you go. It's gonna keep getting better. And I I think I struggled certainly and maybe a lot of people relate is with imposter syndrome,   you know, and thinking like, well, who am I to go do this thing?  

And it's just like you said. Right? It's like, I'm obviously this weird pink person and I have all these things that I'm not, you know, an   Andrei Saint Anapolis. You know? Like, I have a different way if I'm gonna present.   And everybody's audience, you know, is gonna resonate differently   with them, and I think that's such an important   thing. And it's just a gap where it it's all I mean, I still feel like I suck, and I have a lot of work to do to improve me. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, it's like you think It's all yeah. All of us creators for agreements. Yeah. We we think, like, this is the vision of how I want the the the per the experience, the product, the final, expression to be, and then it's,   product, the final, expression to be. And then it's like, yeah. I kind of met some targets here, but maybe not here. And did it you know, you're always changing the   the dials and the knobs of of, you know, how you're putting yourself out there and expressing. And   it's it's courageous to be a creator. You know? I think a lot of people don't understand. I mean, when you hit record or go live or anything, it's like, oh, gosh. I'm putting   I'm bearing my soul to the world, and you guys are gonna judge me.  

But then it's like when you focus, like you said, on your mission,   on your purpose, and you find something that is, like, giving back,   who cares?   Like, go do that. It's not about everything has to look perfect or be perfect. It it's about really, like, serving the message,   serving your mission, you know, with with love and care. So I love that advice.  

[00:53:33] Unknown:

Yeah. No. That that's honestly the best, and what you said is so trite   true. People are gonna criticize   whether you do it or not. Yeah. So might as well, you know, start doing it. What I say is   even though they're commenting and whatever, they're giving your post more views, And that's the way it all comes down to. If you can, you know, preach your message to as many people as possible, you're you're doing something right. You know? And the but the I feel like the end goal for all of us should be to leave the world better than we found it. And if you're a Bitcoiner,   I know for a fact we all believe that. Yeah. So  

[00:54:10] Unknown:

Yeah. And we each have a little something to give to this world. You know, whether we're creators, whether we're programmers, whether we're business people, whether,   you know, we're networkers or event people, everybody's got something to contribute to this giant   tapestry, this masterpiece, I call it, called life. Right? And, you know, who the heck wants to see the same thing repeated for your whole   masterpiece? No. I wanna see colors and different textures and things. And so that's where,   you know, honoring our individual nature out there, I think, is really empowering and important. And I see you doing that and   shining your light and your enthusiasm   and just like, okay. Let's go. Come on, Spetsky. You let's get no nuts. Like, I love that story.  

That no. Those are for some fun times. No. It's so bad. But it's really cool, though. You know? And, like, Natalie talks about her first story going to the Bitcoin conference, and she's just like, oh, I'm gonna stand by the bathroom,   by the men's bathroom and talk then hand out my cards and stuff because   she was still new and didn't know a whole bunch, and she's just like, screw it. I'm gonna go where all these people are, and they're stuck here in line. Like, here you go, guys.   And I didn't know that. That's so funny. Totally. And so it's like everybody starts out somewhere, you know, and we all start out like, oh, okay. How's this gonna go? So this is super powerful.   Any final words on on for anybody listening who's new to Bitcoin or maybe wants to start, you know, supporting you? Obviously, I want them to go to geyser.fund   forward slash project forward slash btchesla   to donate   some sats to your project.  



[00:55:48] Unknown:

Also, well, if they have YouTube,   I also started Get Based with Julian and Adam O'Brien.  

[00:55:54] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:55:56] Unknown:

We're trying to, you know, put more based content out there. We were tired of, you know, hearing the sponsor tell us, no. We don't wanna invest in this project or that project. This is too risky. So we were like, fuck it. Let's do what we wanna do and fund it ourselves.   So Get Based is this new content   company that we started where we're literally, like, doing what we want to do for,   you know, in content that's the show called the wrong thing. That's one of my shows.   We also have future proof with Adam every Thursday. Wrong thing is every other Wednesday.   And we also have these crazy   documentaries   that we post once a month. And next week,   May 15th,   we're releasing the Peru doc, the document that honestly changed my life and made Bitcoin BTC's lot possible.  



[00:56:50] Unknown:

Oh my god. I love it. You're busy as heck, sister. Oh my gosh. Yeah.   We gotta keep busy. You know? You keep busy and you're young, you can handle it.   You've got all that energy. So use it for good, Batman.   I think it's great. And I love that you partner with Julian. I haven't gotten to meet Adam yet, but I've got to meet Julian in,  

[00:57:12] Unknown:

El Salvador last year and I was like, oh my gosh. You guys are he's amazing. No. He's a genius. He's like the creative mastermind. It's insane, the ideas he gets. He's so What good mix? Because   Adam makes us more realistic.   You know? You have   me and Julian that are like, oh, let's do these crazy things. And then Adam's like, no. We can all do that. We gotta be realistic. We gotta, you know, focus on one thing.   So we balance each other out in a way. Sometimes I'm I'm like the rest between these the these 2 Canadians because Canadians would be pretty crazy.   Oh my gosh. There's no coincidence. It starts with the c, Canadians and crazy.  



[00:57:52] Unknown:

Oh my gosh.   Oh, god bless Canada, man. They're going through some crazy shit up there too now. I'm just like,   what?  

[00:58:00] Unknown:

Did you see that now now the the hate crime is online even before the law was a thing. I was like It's just it's just I I mean,  

[00:58:09] Unknown:

I used it. I remember before COVID, it was just like, oh, if the shit hits a fan, we're all going to Canada. You know? I'm like,   I will never step foot in that country ever again in my whole life. That place is a nightmare.   Sorry. But it's just it's going downhill super fast and turning into China. I mean, yuck. No thanks. What power does. Power gets to your head.   Well, it's just I I always think of, like, you know, we don't have to go too political, and I know I gotta wrap up here, but, like,   you know, have you do you know who Whitney Webb is?  

[00:58:40] Unknown:

Yes. I love her stuff. Dude, oh my gosh. That woman, like,   holy   encyclopedia   genius, like,  

[00:58:49] Unknown:

have many connections,   and I'm like These events. What?   But   I I you know, I've always thought this even prior to being a Bitcoiner and prior to to learning about her and, you know, John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman   is like   the the the cancerous   tumors and and malignancy   that's out there with the people who are blackmailed,   who are in positions of power.   You know? And I think about, like, wow.   You know, whether it's old school mafia stuff, it's just like, who's really got the strings of the puppets?   And and I think there's so much going on that we have no clue about still and even, you know, the bravery that, obviously, Julian Assange,   had with with WikiLeaks and   who's now suffering greatly   for telling the truth,   and same with Whitney.  

It it's just like   we have to keep revealing the truth layer by layer by layer so that we can build a better system that doesn't   duplicate the old,   you know. And what you said before we hit record,   you know, when I asked you, I was like, is anything off limits to talk about? And you're like, I'm an open book,   You know? And I think it's important for all of us to feel,   like, safe telling the truth.  

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And and But that's the thing. It's not safe to tell the truth, though, nowadays. It's super scary, especially   so in the my project with wrong thing,   I get phone calls from my parents all the time saying that I'm they're scared that I'm talking about these truths from the system   because   there's a tendency   of, you know, whistleblowers   being killed because they reveal too much information   Yep. Or,   you know,   anything.   Anything. I've been shadowed man from TikTok with the scariest things for, you know, speaking about the Jeffrey Epstein stuff.   So   speaking a true your like, the actual truth, it's scary because they try to shut you down. And the thing is, like, if you don't even care about your life,   that's fine.  

Because but the scary part is they try to get people that you love the most around you. So that's what's fucked up. That it's not even that you're putting your own life to danger.   You're putting all those who you love   in danger too by revealing these truths. So it's scary.   But the thing is, like, if we want a better future,   those are the people that need   to leave,   not the truth tellers.  

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Yeah. Exactly. And it sucks because it's like these people are manipulated into creating   legislation and laws that,   you know, continue to erode our freedoms, that continue to, you know,   silence truth,   and they're being manipulated too. So it's just it's it's it is. It's very scary, and I do think that, you know,   the blackmail   of your loved ones,   it's like, who's gonna   say, oh, I'm gonna keep going forward if somebody's threatening your child.   Yeah. You're not. You're gonna go and you're gonna comply,   and that's scary. And so I have a lot of respect for people who are anonymous out there, who are trying to tell the truth   in a way that   is is   keeping them safe and keeping their family safe. But then all of us who are out here putting our faces forward and our names,   it's like it it's a dance. It's a balance. You know? It's not just like, screw you. I'm gonna go do you know? Very easily  

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Like, you have snowed in hiding in Russia. Yeah. Not even in Russia. I don't even know where this man is. Who knows where that dude is? Who knows? But it's like these things   that   you have people fearing for their lives for just revealing   the truth. That's what I don't get. Like, how   is, honestly,   Julian Assange   being prosecuted   in America   when he's not even American   real like, for releasing something that happened.   Yeah. To me, it blows my mind. If it was I don't even if it was fake, you cannot,   you know, put this man to prison for the rest of his life for something  

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that was should have been public knowledge from the get go. Yep. You know? It and it again, it's that, like, okay. We're gonna intimidate   and threaten   and really punish these people and set an example, like,   just like they did with Ross. You know? And so it's just   it is a very you know? And, obviously, we're seeing what's been going on in the last week and a half with, you know, with samurai   and all the crackdowns of privacy.   I I think we're we're we're very early, you know, and we have to stay strong in our own inner power, which is, you know, not always easy when a bunch of shit's going on around us. But, like,   this is just the tip of the iceberg, I think, with this war   that we are in with the powers that be that don't want us to be free,   and they don't want the truth to be out there. So we have to be smarter   than they are somehow. I don't really have the answer. I wish I did.  

But,   you know, it it just don't give up. Right?  

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Yeah. Even if you're scared, you know, keep going forward eventually.   What   I do think, you know, our lives are sort of planned for each you know, for all of us and,   you know, if your if it's if your time's up, your time's up. You know? They now we have these people that think they're god and that they can control how much time you have left on this planet, but,   hopefully, you know, it doesn't they don't scare too many people that are, you know, like, the whistleblowers,   you know, especially this whole thing that's going on with Boyne. Oh my god. I know. People they're killing just for speaking up. Yeah. And it's an industry that affects   everyone, not only America.  



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Yeah. It's insane. And, again, I'd be curious how that's all getting dug. I mean, obviously, Boeing is part of the military industrial complex. They're not just here. I'm doing commercial airlines. So I think there's a lot more to be told there. And   it's it's   we still, as a world, as a human race, we need to uplevel our consciousness,   not just having these tools. Just because we have Bitcoin, it doesn't mean everyone's all of a sudden gonna be filled with love and peace, and we're gonna care about each other. No. There's still greed. There's still that manipulation that's going on, unfortunately, that's driving a lot of the   the the narrative and driving a lot of the way things are run-in the system. So,   I know we can go on and on and talk about conspiracy, but it's not conspiracy. This stuff's true. That's   this is just reality.  

But, okay.   You are the bomb, diggity doo dah, and I'm so excited for your projects. And, you know, I wanna keep supporting you with GetBase TV and with,   BTC Isla. So I want everybody listening to please go support Isabella and follow her on Twitter,   at isabella   and then   sg3   sg3.   Make sure you go follow her and say hello and donate some stats. So I love you, sister. I can't wait to see you. Maybe I'll get my butt down there. I won't be able to teach, but maybe I can, you know That would be awesome. You should come for a weekend.   Yeah. Love to.  



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You trust me. It's a paradise. It's worth it.  

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Alright. Good. One day, I'll get my butt down there.   Are you gonna be in Nashville?  

[01:06:24] Unknown:

Yes. Cool. In Nashville. Cool. Cool. Cool. Nashville, Prague, and Montreal.  

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Woo hoo. Go, girl. That's gonna be awesome.   Alright. Well, thank you again, Isabella, for tuning in and being a wonderful guest. And thanks everybody who's been listening, and I hope you guys have a super awesome day. And we will talk with you all soon. Oh, and, hey, it's Mother's Day on Sunday here in the States.   So we're gonna have,   I'm gonna be hosting the spaces for mothers and kids and families   on Saturday,   just a a little kind of pre   Mother's Day thing to just talk about Bitcoin and motherhood and families and being, you know, just how do we grow a better  

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world, then yeah. Well, keep killing it, girl. You're doing amazing.   We are doing amazing. Go team. Doing a lot of peace in this space, which  

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that needs it. I hope so. I hope it's working a little bit.   Yeah. Alright, sister.