Disorganized Productions "Chaos creates Harmony"

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In this episode of the Disorganized Productions Podcast, host Rob welcomes back Raul Hilliard, host of the Firmamental Podcast, for a lively and insightful discussion. The conversation kicks off with a humorous reflection on past musical escapades and quickly transitions into a deep dive into the world of podcasting, personal growth, and the challenges of maintaining a podcast. Raul shares his experiences and thoughts on the importance of persistence and personal development in the podcasting journey.

The episode takes a reflective turn as Rob and Raul discuss the complexities of the truth community and the pitfalls of conspiracy theories. Raul expresses his desire to move away from the "truther" label and focus on personal stories and testimonies, emphasizing the importance of genuine human connections and personal growth.

The conversation also touches on the political landscape, with Raul sharing his thoughts on leadership, the role of Donald Trump, and the challenges facing America. The discussion highlights the importance of strong leadership and the need for individuals to take responsibility for their actions and beliefs.

Rob and Raul also delve into the topic of immigration and the societal challenges it presents, discussing the need for regulation and the impact of cultural integration on society. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to take responsibility for their own lives and contribute positively to their communities.

Throughout the episode, Rob and Raul maintain a light-hearted and engaging tone, encouraging listeners to always look on the bright side of life and embrace the journey of personal growth and discovery.

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Skip me bridge like squirrel, baby.  

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What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for the lore.  

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Welcome fellow human to the disorganized   productions podcast.   The show that fuels your spirit,   ignites your potential,   and helps you become the best version of yourself.   I'm your host, Rob,   and each episode,   we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you, tap into your limitless potential,   and conquer life's challenges.   On this website,   Contact me at disorganized productions@gmaildot   com. All my links are available at linktree/disorganized   productions.   Always look at the bright   side light.  

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I love it. I come on disorganized, and I get serenaded right away. Oh, dude. Normally, you are the one that serenades us.   Yes.  

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I thought that's been a while, dude. That's been a while.  

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It is, man. That usually came with the drinking binges too, though. Some good old, like, singer songwriter music after a few beers.  

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Yeah. Yeah. So we have to say, like, no, Ru. Come on. We got Spotify.   Oh, it's the same song. I loved it.   Dude, you made a great song though.   You know what you were taking?   You were going to the loo,   and I was playing a part on my guitar, and you said, dude.  

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Oh. S  

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fellow human.  

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Yeah. And I know you know the lyrics? See, I I refresh my memory because it's been so long. Oh, yes. You come up with a with a with a hook, a great hook. Right? Yeah. I'm I'm I'm thinking about it. Fellow human. Hey, fellow human. What are you doing?  

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Who are you screwing?   Hey, fellow human.   What are you doing?   And who are you screwing?   A  

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If dead at the time, rookie? Sure.   If you tell you and   What are you doing? The   What? You screw it. You do it with  

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Hello humans.   Welcome to another crazy episode of, this organized production. Today, we are, dude, I figured out this was the second time that you're on my podcast. I don't know what happened in between, but we're gonna talk about it.   Nevertheless,   we're gonna have the host of the fundamental   podcast,   ladies and gentlemen,   Raul Hilliard.   Yeah.  

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I was on your brother's show. And the fans in the stands go crazy.  

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Damn you.   Damn you. Dude, like I said, it's been a while, man.   So many things happened in between.   You   worked Trips.   Yeah.  

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And and when I say trips, I mean, in more ways than 1.   Right.   A lot of spills, a lot of thrills, and a lot of chills, but, yeah, still here, still alive, still kicking.   Still standing. We're still in the gang. We're still in the fight. Yeah.  

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Yeah. But to do well,   so let's start from the beginning. I   was listening to,   the flatter of files from George Hobbs back in the days, Mhmm. Which has been back in the days is like one and a half year ago. Right? I know. Back in back in the days. You know, when we're young, you're playing around.   And I heard an episode with the Raul, and I thought, like, this dude is cool. You knew, a lot of, and still know a lot of conspiracy and stuff like that. Which we're not gonna talk about. Maybe we're gonna dip in it a little bit, but not not too much because there's so much   more stuff to tell.  

And then,   I thought to myself, you know what? I'm gonna reach out to this dude.   And, then I got a call from Raul. You know? He was   you were back in Albuquerque at the time. Right? Still with your Yeah. With with your ex wife, with your dogs, and all that shit. And we were just having great time.   And hours and hours, we we were talking and and and just basically doing some stuff. We helped each other, and I helped you. You helped me, you know, with the podcasting game,   especially for mental, which is, of course, big, great family.   Then all of a sudden,   your executive producer, Milton,   took my little ass out of the Netherlands, Europe, and put me into LA.  



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Mhmm.  

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And, then I hooked up with all the other crazy people, and you weren't there. But   when I saw your face,   when everybody was doing   this sepshnet or Mediocast.  

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Yes. Like, you guys you guys FaceTimed me when you guys were all together. You guys had the whole gang. It was like Josh Monday, Milton, Alex,   JCW,   your crazy self.   Yeah. Milton, of course, because he was the host.   Yeah.   But I was there vicariously. I was there in spirit. So Yeah. But you had some   go ahead. Lot going on. No. A lot going on, man. It's just life. It's just how it is. You know? And sometimes   I mean, finances are everything in this world. Right? It sucks that we live in this material world, and we need these this thing called money to do anything.   But   I it to me too, it's it's everything's about timing. So,   it just it wasn't the time for me to be there, but there will be a time when I am going to be there. And I'm here right now, be it virtually, but we're here together. And that that's the most important thing is the fact that we got in this game and we're still in this game, and we're not going anywhere. We're gonna keep going.  

And and a lot of people get in this game thinking that it's gonna be easy, but I tell people, you know, a lot of podcasts start out. A lot of people get an idea. I wanna start a show or I'm gonna do this. Right. You get 8, 10 episodes deep and and you're like, man, the numbers aren't increasing.   You know, I don't know if I'm making a difference. I don't know if I'm making an impact. Is my voice being heard? Am I wasting my time? But it's one of those things like anything in time, it takes time to develop   your skills. It takes time to   develop,   a, a listenership. It takes time to develop, to develop,   you know, networking connections.  

And, you just gotta keep pushing.   And sometimes it seems like there's no growth being made, but there is growth being made, whether it's in the, the numbers are reflecting it or not   Sometimes it's not even about the numbers. It's just about,   personal growth. And and I think when you just stay persistent,   that all comes with time.   Right.   You know, the numbers, the the listeners, the the rest of it, that all comes with time. And,   you know, now almost 2 years now, we're gonna be creeping up on here soon in the game.  

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And yeah. Because I I was thinking like, okay, I'm gonna do my homework. How many episodes are they in? And I didn't figure it out because   your producer, your beautiful waffle stomper,   Claude.  

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Yeah. We were there for a while. We weren't even numbering them. A lot of people put, you know, so number this, episode number that. We stopped for a while, then I had to go and recount.   But, we're, like, on 170.   Sometimes we'll throw an episode number up, and then we forget to do it. And then we don't do it for, like, 10, 12 episodes, forget where we're at again. But I think we're I think we're about to hit 170. So we're about 30 from from 200.  

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So are you going to tell me that you have this little disorganized sauce on your podcast?   Yeah. Because I'm the disorganized one. I can't remember the the the the episode numbers, although I did an episode yesterday   or the day before. I don't know.   It's so crazy. And and, do you have to say dude, I know that you speak so well on your podcast, and you have great topics that you cover   and that you covered. But do you have the same thing as me going? That you know exactly your time, a date,   a name, whatever.   But when it comes when you are on a podcast, not live recording, but just recording a podcast, it just, like, blank. You touch into the nothingness like,   where There's a name.  

Right?  

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There's a name. Drawing blanks? No. That has that's not just you, man. That happens to me all the time. It's the same thing with birth dates.   Like Milton, who you mentioned, he's he's fantastic. He's got a still trap for dates, birth dates. I'm like, how do you remember all this stuff?   He knows everybody's astrological   sign. He knows their birth date.   Me, if I don't set an alarm in my phone to go off, like, hours ahead of time, I'm gonna forget. I'm a I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to tell you what day it is today. What are what is it? January 24th, I think.  

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It's a day.   It's January 27th, dude. I'm 3 days off. See?   It's a day. Dude, I forgot,  

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Milton's birthday. And it's a strong it's a strong day. Right? Not a week. Yes. There are no weekdays.  

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I forgot Milton's birthday. And the only excuse I got I'm sorry, Milton. I'm gonna hug you under the palm tree with my hammock. Next time, we're gonna   see each other 100%. I had a new oh, I I got a new phone from one of my producers. Thank you, Yost. But, the thing is you have to, synchronize the the the the the older,   agenda, so then it pops up. I didn't do that. So I know for sure that when I heard Milton telling about Astronomery and what's your birthday, like, okay. This is your this is your day, dude. I'm gonna put it in. No no problem.   I I   I didn't synchronize,   so I forgot it. So snake, shout out to the great snake Turban hat. He told me, like, dude, did you forgot Milton's birthday? I said, wow.  



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How was that? I think I got his birthday wish, like, 10 minutes before the clock ticked over to the next day. So so I got mine in, dude. It was 10 minutes before the before the final buzzer rang, but I got it in. Right.  

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What's what's your favorite topic,   talking on the show? And, of course, you got a a cohost, Alex Alex Pauls. I was on this, on this,   pure genius podcast the other day. Mhmm. But what's your favorite topic when it not comes to conspiracies?  

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Dude, I just like personal testimony. I just like conversation, and I like freestyling.   I think the best thing you know, a lot of the times   we're interested in getting these big name guests. Like, oh, I gotta get this person on my show because they got a big following, or I gotta get this person because they wrote this book, or, you know, I gotta get this content creator because they're huge on TikTok.   Like, my favorite Firmamental episodes are the ones with   unknown people.   And,   you know, people just average everyday men and women   who punch a clock or average and everyday husbands and wives   that just have an interesting life story. And I just like hearing people's lives   and hearing their testimonies. And,   I like hearing about how people persevere over hard times.  

And that's what I really wanna, like, do with the show in this upcoming year is just talk to more just everyday average people   and and not have it have to be about, you know, level playing geocentrism   or conspiracy or any of this stuff. If we touch on some of that stuff, cool. But to me, I'm just more interested in finding out what makes that person tick, what their passions are and what makes them unique.   And, and we just, we have an episode dropping now in about an hour that I'm super proud of. And then I talk about this man. Like, I'm, I really I think, for a mental, we're gonna ditch the whole truther ag.   I'm really just got been disgusted with the truth community,   you know, because it's be it's become something ugly.  

And it's it's it's it's turned into a bunch of clicks and a bunch of people coat tailing one another. Mhmm. And, you know, what and and everybody talks about the media and movies and Hollywood   and, whatever is hot and and something's going on. Like, let's take for instance the the final experiment. You know, everybody in the in the flat earth, quote, unquote, game was like, oh, we have to talk about this. Like, do we really? Like, just because everybody else is talking about it, we have to talk about it too. I don't wanna be like anybody else. I don't wanna follow anybody else's formula,   and I don't wanna have to use anybody else's,   name or   listenership to boost ours. I'm just like, I'm cool with staying in our own lane and talking about things if we feel like talking about them, not because somebody else is talking about it. So we gotta go talk about it too. Right. Put our own unique spin on it.  

I just think that the the truther game has become an echo chamber.   And everything that they say they hate, they're becoming themselves. I've seen, a lot of egos. I've seen a lot of backstabbing. I've seen a lot of accusations   being thrown, and it's just got to the point where to me, it's really ugly,   and and I don't really wanna be about that anymore.   You know, I think I I see a bunch of,   people crying about all the things that are going on in the world, and they wanna talk about it, but then they don't wanna talk about what we could actually do to fix these   situations. Right. And I think it's better just to   even if you're just talking about the things you face on a personal level and how you're pushing through those things to try to become a better person, a better father, a better husband, whatever it is. If you're married or you have kids, a better, a better employee,   a better,   member of society,   a better brother, a better sister, whatever it is like, what are you learning from that   circumstance,   that situation that you're in?  

And we're constantly learning and taking in information as as as humans living this existence.   But what are we doing with the information that we're being given? What are we doing with the   cards we're being dealt?   And I like talking to people because   everybody has a pathway that they're carving out in life.   And   I find it interesting when people find out unique ways to carve a path that's unlike anybody else.   And,   recently we've had some amazing guests on and and my favorite episodes are just these episodes where we talk to,   just some random person that that that sent me an email and there was something that I found interesting in   their email and I'm like, hey. Come on the show. And it's funny because people come on for Momentum and right away they they think they have to have all these bullet points with all these conspiracy theories. Gotta have all these bullet points on flat earth and it's like, no. No. No. No. No. Hold up. Like, that's cool and all. But, you know, we we've kinda talked about that. No. That your your personal story is a lot more interesting to me Right. Than running it down the line on all that other stuff. Like, let's get into your life. Talk about your life, and that's what I really wanted. That's what I really wanna do with the show   is just   is talk to people because everybody has a unique story. And just because you're not flat Earth Dave or Gary Wayne or Josh Monday or or or somebody who has this big following. No. You're just as interesting, if not more interesting than these guys in a lot of ways. Right. The the thing is what what happens to people that have something to tell, like, if you are it doesn't matter what topic.  



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You're gonna be stay in that topic. So if you give someone who is a breathing coach   the the one and a half hour or 2 hours about breathing   sessions and stuff like that, you're only gonna talk about it. But I wanna know how did he came to that point of view that he is doing that. What does it bring him? You know?   And, we we talked about it for for from the beginning because, yeah, these are nice productions always will be disorganized   productions. But I always tell that, like, oh, man. There will be no conversation if I have a guest that only talks about flat earth or the bible or whatever because it's   boring. To me, it's boring. To me, it's it's interesting how, how someone gets into that into that that narrative, into that point of view, into that, belief system for for for sake. I wanna ask you,   Raul. What do you think about this?  

What if   there are some names in the let's say for for the easy part,   flat earth community. The names that that that went from 0 to 200,000   plus followers within a year.   That collect a lot of people that said, like, oh, you know what? We were talking about the, the kitchen table about flat earth. I couldn't give you proof. But listen or look at this guy. Right? He he is exactly telling telling you   what I think and what it's been said. So he gains and I'm not gonna mention names. He's gonna gain that that huge   crowd of people, that audience. And all of a sudden, he turns out to be a fucking retard.  

Everybody will say, oh, you're you're looking to that guy?   Are you serious? That's that guy has a mental   illness.   So   what I'm trying to say is maybe it was or is a sigh up, and I wanna know your point of view. When somebody gets   all all of a sudden, all this huge   kind of audience about a topic that nobody wants to talk about has been canceled and been censored on every fun platform.   And all of a sudden, he has all this attention and then turns out to be like, what are you talking about? What do you think about that?  

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Well, see, I I think that,   it's just natural as humans and and men and people. Like, it's the same thing as when you're in school,   but like a popularity   contest. Right? Like,   oh, this person's so popular and, like, I wanna be associated with them because they're popular. And so if I'm with them, I'm gonna be popular too. But,   I learned a lot of valuable lessons   in this. And I made the same mistakes that I made in school thinking just because you're hanging out with somebody in cool that's in the cool kids club doesn't necessarily mean that you're automatically in the cool kids club. And who made them the cool kids club anyways. Right? Uh-huh. I I I think I I what, what disgust me about the truth community is that everybody thinks you have to see it their way. And if you don't see it their way,   then you don't have the truth because   that's their truth, you know? And it's like, maybe, maybe I don't see it exactly like you do. I think the, that's what I mentioned on this   episode that's releasing today on fundamental.  

And I really want people to go listen to this new episode because I talk about it. This is why we decided to kinda, like, pull away from the truth community and even the conspiracy community because   I think in a sense, we become this dog that's chasing its own tail. And we're not really accomplishing mud. We're just going around in circles, like, chasing these never ending conspiracies,   going down these rabbit holes. And then you get stuck in these rabbit holes, and you dig down so deep you're not even able to come up to the surface for air.   And and you gotta take a deep breath, right, to to regain your thoughts, to regain your focus. And I think a lot of people have spent too much time down in these rabbit holes that they lost the focus of what it is we're really here to accomplish. I think we hear what we're really here to accomplish   is just   point out patterns.  

Right? Mhmm. Not say I have all the answers to to what you're asking. It's simply saying,   look at this information that's being presented to us. This doesn't make sense to me.   Not all this stuff is lining up. We're record we're we're good at recognizing   patterns. And I I'm not I'm very comfortable with saying our firmamentals. We never told   anybody that we have all the answers.   We have conversations   with people who are studying these things and they might they might potentially have some answers, but none of us know 100 percent for sure the answers to all these questions that are being thrown out there. But I think it's healthy to, present information   and then   play with that information in your mind and see what makes sense for you. But I think, like, this individual that you bring up that we're not mentioning. Right? I think that people gain these large followings. People gain this popularity,   and they think because their following's bigger than yours   than yours or mine that now they're   they obviously got it right, and we got it wrong. And because we don't wanna conform or go along with with what they're pumping out, Now we're the enemy because we're stopping them from what what they're they're doing. And you could have done a lot of great work. You you you you've done a lot of great work out here, but then you start off this other stuff   that makes the good work that you've done   kind of people are gonna be like, wow. I'm not gonna listen to that because you you put put out this. So you could destroy a lot of the good work that you're done with putting out content that is ridiculous.  

Right. So you gotta you gotta find a cool medium without being so extreme.   And I think a lot of podcasters, a lot of content creators, a lot of quote, quote, unquote, truthers have just got into the most extreme subject matter because they find out that's what's getting the hits. That's what's getting the likes. But I think what you do when you when you start to gain a following like this is you gotta feed the beast. You gotta keep feeding the beast. And I don't wanna feed the beast anymore.   Like, for me, it's I'm just sitting here with my wheels spinning. I and instead of saying, hey,   I know it all. Like, and this is a this is a a big one that I'd like to bring up. And it's like it's like the Donald Trump thing. Right? It's like,   you're you're it's like politics. You're either the right or you're the left, you know? And then and then if you're the right, you can't get along with the left. If you're the left, you can't get along with the right. It's the same thing within the flat earth community. It's like, are you,   are you a biblical cosmologist,   or are you an extended level plane, you know,   outer lands flat earth? Or are you,   you know, and that you   you can't say you can't play the middle road. They want you to pick a click, you know? And it's like, yeah, for me, like, I'm, I'm a biblical cosmologist. That's the way I see it, but you might think that there's extra lands and then it's a never ending level plane that keeps going on and on. Like me, I think it's around firmament dome. Oh, well, we can't get along then. And and you're a shield because you don't think it's an extended level plane. You think that it's a dome that comes down, you dumbass. Like, no.  

You know?   You don't know. I don't know. We're just asking questions. All we know is that we've been lied to about what this place is. Now what what do we do with that information?   Now we're just sitting here with our wheels spinning, and we're not   maybe the point is not getting you to figure out whether it's a dome or whether it's a never ending level plane. Maybe it's just figuring out that, what we have the information that we have been presented is a lie and we're trying to make sense of it.   And we're asking these questions.   It it it doesn't matter who's right or who's wrong. It's just having these conversations to get people to think outside the box.  

You don't have to you don't have to pick team left or team right or team red or team blue. Just watch the game, mate. Watch the game. Yeah. We don't pick a team. We just have conversations about it. Right. What's wrong with that? Just because you don't see it my way, now now you're my enemy.   No.   That's that's what that's why I I'm I'm no longer interested. I'm not it's not saying I'm not interested in in level playing geocentrism.   I am. Because it we do have a lot of smoking gun evidence. Like Right. You know, we can see too far   and evidence that that it's stationary,   You know, the way that the the cosmos work. Do we know? Like, no. I don't believe we've been beyond the firmament, but that doesn't mean you know either because you haven't been there. Right. Yes. It's it's the only possible truth. Right? And and that that's why I'm,  

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why I didn't want to go with my podcast   into a certain direction because I knew I'm gonna be stuck there forever. Because everybody will will will figure out, like, oh, new episode about topic this topic. I don't wanna stuck into one topic because   when you do that, it's only about just like you said, like, oh, oh, it's red team now. It's blue team now. No. I wanna watch your game. And and   I don't have to cheer for the left or the right, but I can   think and I can see, wow, that team is playing so good.   But it had to pick it. Right? If you see a football team that you never heard of, and it's like a crazy game. You're just like, oh, I don't I I I never saw these guys. I don't know who they are, but, wow, what a crazy game to look at. That's what you wanna see. Right? And that's the same thing with,   content creators. You know? You're gonna be stuck if you are putting it into some kind of topic all in goddamn time. And it's on your own plausible truth.  

What does that say? So so if I'm if I could pull, like, 10 cards about questions that we have as as humans, as mankind, we have 10 questions like, you know, what's on the bottom of the oceans or whatever the fuck. You know? Can we go to space? Blah blah blah.   And I'm gonna answer you these questions with 100%   proof.   Then everyone would shut the fuck up and go back to their normal lives,   or would they?   Because everything we have now, which is caused as an evidence   is a theory.   It's a model. So it   it looks like   we figured out, but it's a model that works, but we do not know for sure.  

So the the these are all things that, like, for me, red flag.   Red flag.   Skeptical.   Very skeptical. As I told you on when I was on the fundamental,   I'm a critical thinker.   Mhmm.   Not a conspiracy,   and I figure something out. If you see that the to show that that you guys have conspiracy theorist  

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therapist. Conspiracy therapist. Yeah. Right.  

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If you put one little dash on it, it's gonna call   conspiracy   the rapist.   Have you figured dude. Oh.  

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The conspiracy,   the rapist.  

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Yeah. Because terrorist, if you   it's just like one little dash and that's completely different than what you,   especially we have to figure out if we are in, Europe that we sometimes say stupid words. And, of course, sometimes we're gonna listen back to some episodes like,   dude,   I was so on fire.   Got a divine bow, Lord. Just spinning some balls. So what's happening?   But, yes, I do agree with you. If you,   want to make great content and you wanna deep dive into real people and have cool conversations,   You,   of course, someone could be, like, you know,   a content creator by some topics, but   the   the drive behind it, what's the psychology   behind that drive, what makes that content? That interests me   all the time. Yeah.  



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Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a lot more interesting to find out what's driving you to make that content than necessarily the content itself basically is what you're saying. And I think it's interesting to talk about   these conspiracies,   but what's more interesting that even than the conspiracy itself is what made you get interested in that conspiracy. Like, what caused you to even look into it? You know?   The other thing though that I think about,   the   the the truth community too though is that there's there's either, like, super extremism. Like, we we have to point this out and we have to do something now extreme to combat it or it's the opposite. It's this nihilistic point of view of, like, well,   they say this is going on and all evidence would point to this going on, but I haven't seen it for myself.  

So I will just not,   do anything about it because I don't know if it's a psy op or not, but I'm gonna talk about whether it's a psy op or not. But it doesn't matter what I do because I haven't seen it for myself.   Like, that's not accomplishing anything either. And that's why I I point out the Donald Trump thing.   It's funny because,   you know   oh, Donald Trump. He's a Zionist,   and, he's quite possibly   this oligarch, and he's going to, take America and bring it into the new world order. And he could quite possibly   bring on the new world order, and   and is he the antichrist? And is he this and is he that?  

How about instead of that,   we just   watch things as they unfold and break things down as they come at us and not worry or speculate because I've heard a lot of people say yes. Like, he's the Zionist.   And then other people like, no. He's fighting the beast. He's for us. He's fighting the new world order system. So what is it? Is he part of the new world order, or is he   is he fighting the new world order? And that's why We never know. He's really and he's really been demonized by the media because they it it it does appear to be a witch hunt. Right? It does appear to be like, oh, they threw all these felony charges at him. This has never happened to another American president in history.   Are they doing this because he's not part of them and they're trying to take him down because he's a threat to the establishment?  

Or is he secretly a part of the establishment and this is just the the way that they've wrote the script and they've made him the the bad guy so he could be the hero to others. Because in every story, you're either for the good guy or the bad guy. But what it like, I heard you say, it's like it's like fighting a war. There's 2 generals. Right? Yes. So so if you're on one army, your general's the good guy and the other general's the bad guy, but flip sides and now you're in the other army, that general's the good guy and the other general's the bad guy. But with this Donald Trump thing,   I don't think that any conspiracy theorist got it 100% figured out. Now I know there's a lot of strong stuff to point that he is, an,   you know, an,   nation state of Israel apologist, and he's the Zionist.  

But then also, like, I'm like, look at a lot of the good things that's happened, like giving back American soldiers who didn't wanna take the vaccine, giving them their job back with their title and rank and paying their salary,   going back to only recognizing 2 genders, getting rid of the DEI,   you know, cutting ties with the WEF,   cutting ties with the World Health Organization. But now I heard something today. Maybe he's not gonna lead the World Health Organization. But No. No. I mean, let's just say let's just say that we can have more secure borders now. Let's say we get rid of people that are over here committing crimes, raping children, human trafficking, pumping drugs into into our country. What if what if what if we do get get a control on those situations? That's a good thing. People getting their jobs back that should've got their jobs back. Wars ending. Like, there is some things that are being done that are good. You gotta learn to take the good with the bad, not just say, oh, you know, it's it's just all bad. What? You think it would have been better if if Kamala Harris and them would have won? Then we would have be fine. Right. Be good. No. Because you've got be bitching and complaining about that too.   Like, you you you got you gotta take things as they come and deal with the good and the bad as they come.  

And I'm sorry. It's the same thing as, like, with with level playing geocentrism   versus globe.   None of us know for sure because we haven't been   I haven't been this Antarctica, so I don't know if they faked it or if they were actually there. Is there actually a 24 hour sun or was it green screens and were they lying about it? We're still here speculating about it. So spending too much time focusing on that. They're focusing on   no. We know that we're we're lied to. Whether they're shills or not, it's still up to us to find the truth, not rely on somebody else to find it for us. Listen to what they have to say, take the information in good or bad, take what's good, discard what's bad, and then use it the way you need to use it to keep moving on. Don't get stuck. And it's the same thing. I I see too many people getting stuck in one camp or the other. And, like like, here here here's where I'm at with Donald Trump.   I'm like, the guy quite possibly could be bad. I'm not saying he's good, and I'm not saying he's bad.  

Could he be both? He could. But Oh, yeah. I look for people he will.   Yeah. And I and and I look at that, like, even even if he is bad, I know that God could could use evil for good. Like, what happened with the with the pandemic. Right? It was bad. It was evil. It was it was it was it we it was corruption.   You know? The, the pharmaceutical companies were out of control. The medical industry was out of control. People lost jobs. You know? People kids weren't able to go to school. A lot of damage was done, but out of that, a lot of good came. It woke a lot of people up. It forced families to sit down together, spend more time together. Yeah. It it it taught us a lesson. Don't let this happen again. Pay attention to these signs. When you see certain things happening,   you you know what to expect.  

Don't let things catch you off guard. Be prepared.   Do that work to take care of yourself and your family. Learn how to to to eat cleaner. Learn how to have a healthier diet. Learn to exercise.   Learn to take care of yourself before you let your body get out of control and have to get on medication. Why don't you just start to eat cleaner? Why don't you stop drinking? Why don't you start going to the gym? It's the same thing. Like with real life, we can sit here and be like, oh, you know, it's it's all good or it's all bad. Like,   no. Talk about it. Say, this is what's going on. This is the information that we found. This is what we've uncovered. Here's this information. Now what do you do with it? And instead of sitting there worrying,   like, start to do things like, well, if that's the case, what can I do to be prepared? And that's all we're trying to do is have conversations to make people prepare for what's going on. So you're not living in in in utter darkness. And when something does happen and if it does land up on your doorstep, you're not caught off guard. We're not telling you we have it right or we have it wrong. We're just simply bringing the information to you to your attention and saying, here it goes. This is what we found. What are you gonna do with it? We're not telling you to to to do it our way, and we're not telling you that if you do it your own unique way, you're wrong either. It's just having this conversation  

[00:35:37] Unknown:

so we're not caught off guard. Mhmm. And isn't isn't it something like psychology that's been played out because they know that   humankind   is very,   curious. You know, we wanna know a lot of things.   So if you if you it doesn't matter what you're gonna throw into the ether. People wanna figure it out. But,   the ones that do not have the helicopter view to see, like, oh, this is the left. This is the right, for example. You know, black and white, whatever the fuck you're gonna call it, or light and dark, whatever.   If you don't have the helicopter view, you can't make up your mind. Just like, okay. I see what's going on, and I move on. But if you got stuck in this little micro,   micro dimension of what's what's the truth? What what is it? I'm curious. I'm curious. What what's been figured out? I mean,   so many people have been deceived about so many things. And somehow,   the   orchestra,   the stage, the world stage   shows you how ridiculous   they put it into scene.  

Like, you have to look like an helicopter viewer. Like, oh my god. Is he pitching his nose? Is she sleeping?   Is that a mask?   What does he do on the stage? You know, with the with wherever the fuck that that, Elon does.   Dude, if you if you don't see it as entertainment,   and you don't have to see it as a truth or no truth, but just like see oh,   that's it's like in a, a TV station.   You can choose to look at a black mirror   in the in front of your room.   But while you're looking at the black more mirror and no pro program is there, there are 100 and thousands of programs running on the background. What do you wanna dig into?   It's it's that that's that really fascinates me. Like, okay. Just like you said in the a few minutes ago, like, what   makes us interesting in looking in these things and deep dive into these rabbit holes?  

I think that they figured out the psychology   of curiosity.   Hey. You know what's behind that door you wanna figure out?   You can walk in my castle, but don't go through that door.   What's behind that fucking door?   Oh, dude. You're you're muted.   You're muted.  

[00:38:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I I was gonna say that, that's why they do that. Right? It's like, I I think that's what's happened with the truth community is that listen. I think that there is a real conspiracy to hide   the fact of the place that we live. And I think, ultimately, that conspiracy is to hide the fact that we were divinely created, and we were placed here, and we were created intelligently, that we're not this cosmic accident.   For me, I'm cool. If that's all that I've learned from this, that's amazing. Imagine how amazing that is. That's amazing amount of information right there. Do I have to know all the intricate details or be an expert on it? No.   I know that we have been lied to, and I know that we're divinely created and we're not a cosmic fart accident.  

Boom.   That's that's that information   alone itself is is invaluable.   Right?   Now do I have to know the all the details of how it works? It's fun to talk about these things, but ultimately, it's not it's not the most important thing unless you could actually physically take me there and show me. It's like the same thing I'm saying. A lot of people are like, I I'm not gonna believe in until I see it. Right. You know?  

[00:39:13] Unknown:

It's   and that's what I really liked, about,   what you guys did with the Royal Rumble.   You know, you you put it some belief systems into the ring   and just let let's have a battle.   But   in in a good way, you know,   because nothing is good and nothing is wrong.   Right? Not nothing is bad and nothing is wrong. What's what's it called? Nothing nothing is good and nothing is wrong. But if you let that lose, that kind of belief system,   you go back to your all authentic self.   That's the most   honorable truth you can get out there. That what what's deep in your heart, like, oh, you know, I didn't figure it out. I don't have any answers to my questions,   but I'm fine with it. Instead of like, oh, I got all these questions.  

I got all these,   answers,   but still one question that drives me mad. You know you know, people say that, like, oh, that question. I wanna know the answer to that question. Or why don't you just continue live and just like, okay. We're living on, let's call it earth.   The shape,   I don't know.   One thing is for sure. I can get off.   I do not have the finances to get off. Even if I would take a plane or whatever, it's it's gonna last for several hours. And then I go back   to here.   So that's a fact.   If I take that for granted and that's okay, that's that's the answer to my question. Hey,   dude. I'm fine with it. You know? I don't   maybe that's the other thing.  

Do do we need to know all these questions? So is maybe   humankind so miserable,   intelligent   that we are   chasing the dog still for all the time for answers that are been giving or not be given. And that's why we're spinning around all the time   Mhmm. Without any   plausible truth.  

[00:41:04] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Yeah. I I think that,   I'll use I'll use the voting system as as an example for kind of what I'm trying to say because I I know I get crazy and I'm a whirlwind of thoughts.   But I look at it I I I look at it like I I voted in this last cycle. Okay? And I did. I voted I voted for Donald Trump.   Now do I trust Donald Trump completely?   No. I don't. But but to me, was it the the better of the two options? Yes. It was. What were my reasons for that? Well,   I saw the last 4 years, my country go down the tube. I saw them have an unlimited list of the amount of genders that were out there when I know for a fact there's just a male or a female.   I know you need a male and a female to reproduce.  

I know that I don't want males and female sports.   I I know I I would love   and listen. I'm not an Israel apologist either.   And with the research that I've done, I think dispensationalism   is a real thing. And I think it's a deception that's been played on the church to think that there's this group that's exempt   from, from,   their knee having to bow to, to my Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. And they just get a free pass because they're gods. So the people, like, I don't think I think it's a misinterpretation of scripture. Now that's my take on it. But am I gonna base my vote solely like, oh, he's an Israel apologist. So and and he's gonna he's gonna be for Israel no matter what, and, you know, there's people being persecuted in Gaza. So,   I want him to end that war, but he's not gonna end that war because they want it to keep going on. But he he can end this war over here in Ukraine. Right? So he's gonna stop this war over here in Ukraine, so I'm all for less war. So even if he's not gonna stop both, at least he's gonna stop 1, and stopping 1 is better than having both going on. Mhmm. So I'd rather have this guy because at least I'm gonna see some war stop. And then maybe he can have a change of heart down the line, and he could stop that other one too. Then boom, 2 wars are stopped. But, like, I'm gonna go for the guy that can that I think can fix our economy. A guy that can take,   who can who can take questions from the media and answer with that having to go following a script. I'm gonna go for the guy that wants to end the green energy deal. I'm gonna go for the guy that wants to secure our borders,   because there's some victory in that for me. There's benefits that actually affect my life if if I see these things happen.  

Mhmm. And then and then there's these and and then there's these other people that are like, well, you're just supporting that system   for to keep going on and on. And I'm like, are we really at the place where we could say we don't wanna participate?   Like, a lot of people's answers were, well well, why   vote? Why vote? Because you're just,   keeping that system going by participating in it. Mhmm. But but I'm sitting here saying, we're not at the place where you guys say we're at. We don't have enough people to all say we're not voting.   Okay? It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. So you might as well take part in it. That way, you you can at least say, like, hey.  

I have a I can I can have, an opinion now? Because to me, if you're not participating,   then then you have no right in saying what's going on in the game. It's like it's like being a spectator. If you're actually playing in the game, then you can have some outcome of how the end of the game   played out. You can have an effect on the the the final score. Right. Right? If if you're just sitting there watching and not participating   and then you bitch about who wins or loses, it's like, well, you weren't even in the game, bro. So why you bitching about who won or lost?   Now now I can say, like, if I made a mistake and he ends up being this freaking tyrant, I'd be like, I fucked up. And I made a mistake, and I voted for I voted for the guy that eventually did us wrong, and I made a mistake, and I was wrong for that. But at least I I can at least I could say, hey. I I'm I'm willing to eat a slice and humble of humble pie and say I made a mistake by doing this. But I think a lot of people wanna be able to have their cake and eat it too and and,   not have   to walk it back. A lot of people just want to have opinions and not have to walk things back. Like, I'm okay with saying things and then being wrong and then later admitting like like, hey, bro. I was wrong about that. Mhmm. When out whether it's about this conspiracy, the shape of the earth, political issues, this or that, I'm okay with being like, I made a mistake, but I'd rather stand for something   than fall for nothing.  

And you gotta pick a side, like some side, like playing the middle of your whole life   and and and not wanting to participate on anything in any any level. How do we win by doing that? I think there comes a a point where we just gotta pick a side. We gotta we gotta stand by our lease and our convictions and say how it plays out and be willing to adapt as it comes. That's all I'm saying here on Firma Mental podcast.   Like, pick a side, pick a strong stance, and stick to it. Like me, I'm a biblical cosmologist, bro. I don't think it's a never ending level plane.   If it's not so what if I'm wrong? I'm willing to say I was wrong later. But right now, do I think I got it right? Yeah. That's the way I see it, and I think it makes sense. There's models that show that it fits this way, that that it can make an anomaly of a second sun reflecting off the firmament, and I could tell you all these fancy things.  

But, you know, do I know? No. I don't. But the same thing, like, do I know whether Trump is the is is is is the good guy or the bad guy? No. I know, but he knows, man. Nobody knows. But but, honestly, I think that a lot of good is is being accomplished. And like I said, for me, I am a Christian, and I follow Jesus. And Jesus told us, he said it would be hard to follow him. He said they will hate you because of me. You will be persecuted   because of me for my name's sake. He told us that. And I think that and and that's the thing. I'm gonna say it on your podcast, you know, and I know I know you're not a Christian,   but you still love me even though I'm a Christian. Absolutely.  

That's that's what I'm saying. Like, and and and I love you even though you're not a Christian. I I love you. Like, would I want you to become a Christian? Yeah. Because that's part of my face core principles,   you know, is to share the gospel, but it's not up to make to I can't make you decide whether or not that's the life you wanna live or that's the spiritual path you're taking.   All I can do is live my life, live it that way. And you say, you know what? That Raul guy, he's a really cool guy. He really he's really been a good friend to me. He really is who he says he is, and there is something different about him. And maybe there is something to this faith that he has because he has this level of hope that I've seen nobody else have. And maybe you get interested in it down the line to decide, like, hey. I got maybe I wanna check this thing out for myself, but it's not easy.   And that's the thing. I'm choosing to live this life not because it's easy or it's a cop out because I could say, oh, Jesus, forgive me for my sins, and I'm gonna make it to heaven. But I can just continue doing all the things that I used to do over and over again   because, I could just go ask for repentance. Is that true repentance? Are you just using No. That that's markering.  

It it it's it's how it's how you apply it. You know? And, it's not easy. And I think that   it's been hard for me because I get this level of conviction. Like, oh, I   maybe I shouldn't watch porn. Maybe I shouldn't drink. Maybe I maybe I should take care of myself. Maybe I should be a better father. And if this is the way for me to accomplish that, then my friends who love me should support that. Mhmm. They should support that because that's what it's doing for me. It's making me   evaluate my life. It's making me quit things that were destructive, and it's helping me get better. What's wrong with that? You should want that for me. You know? And and there's other people that that get offended by it, and it's like, bro, I've never meant to offend you by the stance that I took for my own life. This is my life. You gotta take responsibility   for your own. But for me, like, it is a hard walk because,   I've had to give up things that I used to like to do.  

But ultimately,   I know it's for the best. I know it's gonna make me a better husband. Like, if I marry Beth, I know I'm gonna be a better husband   because I'm not lusting after other women. I'm giving all the all the all the place where I used to spill all my fleshly desires and giving my attention to women who don't deserve it. Now I'm focusing it on one woman who is worthy and deserving of that instead of being half of a half a dad   because I was buzzed or hung over and I didn't feel feel good and I had a headache and I didn't wanna wake up and take my kid to the park or strap my dog on a leash and take him for a walk because I was drained of energy because I drank too much the night before. Well, if quitting quitting drinking is making me a better dad because I wake up refreshed.   I'm not as groggy. I don't have a headache. I'm better healthy. Now I have the energy to strap my kid off. Just take my kid to the park, strap my kid on the leash. I almost said,   Put my put my dog on a leash and take him for a walk or take my and now I have the energy to take my kid for a, to the park or have the energy to take my dog for a walk. You know? Like, it's making me it's helping me to become a better man. It's helping me to face things that I've never faced before in my life. Mhmm. And and and it's keeping me accountable to a group of men that are all about making their life better. And for me, this is the block that I'm on. And I'm gonna pick a hill, and I'm gonna stand on it. Like, I am I? Yes. I am more conservative than I am liberal.  

So if it why wouldn't I choose to to to vote conservative   if   all my morals   point to, like, my my core beliefs line up more with these group of people, I'm not gonna I'm not obviously not gonna go with the other side. I'm just saying take take a stance. I'm I'm tired of this wishy washy crap and people playing the middle road and then not wanting to get involved on any level and then feel like they have the right to complain about things. All I'm saying is I am who I am. I did what I did. Accept it. Love it or leave it. But this is the the the ride that I'm on. If you're here for me, watch the journey. Watch it unfold. We'll be an open book. We'll tell you we'll tell you the truth. I'm not gonna hide things. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it how it is. I'm gonna continue to be myself. I'm gonna continue to let my personality shine. Those that love us will stick with us. And if somebody hates us, they hate us and they wanna leave us. That's fine. Maybe you weren't meant to be in my circle anyways. I don't need to ride anybody's coattail to get there. I don't need to talk about something because somebody else is talking about it and it's I feel like it's gonna get me more place. I feel like if we're meant to if we're meant to make it, we're gonna make it because we deserve it.   Because we put in the hard work because I've invested my energy in it, and I know that it's not gonna go void. If you if you put enough into it, it's something's gonna come back. You don't create something for nothing. You don't if something happens, there's gonna be a reaction.  

So just do something, and you're gonna have a reaction.   Now you'll you'll pay for the for for whatever it is you're doing. And if it's good,   if you're putting good, then you're gonna get good back. If you're putting bad, you're gonna get bad back.   So, I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm just trying to do good here, but I'm I'm gonna pull back from so much of the conspiracy stuff because   I I don't think it's really doing us too good. Like, in a in a sense, I think a lot of this conspiracy stuff is just meant to distract us ultimately from what what is the real truth. What is the 100%.   And that is just becoming the best versions of ourselves and starting with ourselves in our own families, in our own relationships, in our own communities. I ultimately, I can't control what's happening on the global stage. Global, I said it. But I can't I can't   I can't I can't,   affect what's going on on the world stage, what's going on in these wars. I can't affect what's going on in Ukraine or Israel. I have there's nothing I could do right now that's gonna change that. Okay? At least   on on on a mat on a micro or macro level. There's nothing I can do right now that's gonna change that. But what what can I do? I could be a better man in my family. I could be a better father. I could be a better husband. I could be a better member of my community. I could get more involved with my church. I can feed homeless people. I can I can become a part of my neighborhood watch? I could watch over my neighbor's houses.  

I could I could help old ladies through the door. I could help carry groceries. I could pick up trash when I seen it thrown on the road even though I wasn't the one that thrown it. You can affect the world. It's not just ignoring these things. It's not just ignoring these. Pay attention to what's going on, but deal with this as it come in waves.  

[00:53:11] Unknown:

You know? Yeah. I love it.   So I I take two points of this, because,   a lot of people, Christians, they say like, Jesus Christ is my savior. And I do agree with you because I know your path,   that for you, Jesus Christ is a savior. You know, the the the stories, the description that you've been reading and the stuff that he's been through, it reflects to your life, and that's how you become a better man. So I love that that that   that that thought of you   about the bible and about being a Christian and a follower of Christ. No? Yeah. I love that. And I'm glad that you pointed out because,   well, I'm just glad that you pointed it out. And the other thing is,   brings me back a little bit to the game. Like you said, with politics, you know, everybody,   well, asks   you to   what what what part is it? You know, left or right? Red or blue? Here in the Netherlands, we have, I think, like, 45   parties where you can choose from.  

So it's not like red or so so you you got 30   red parties and then a few in between and then a few blue. I mean   so the thing   is, I look at it as a game. So there's   a a game playing. It's called the politic game.   Mhmm. You can go there with a red   jacket. You can go to buy a blue jacket. You can be disappointed   by your team. You can be excited by your team. And some of them say, like, oh, you know what? You got something to do tonight?   No. Why?   I got this, this tickets for a game. You wanna know? Or you wanna go? Who's playing? These and them. Oh, I don't I don't know them. Let's check them out. You know what I'm trying to say here? So, yes, I do agree with your,   with your train of thought about, you know, you want to pick a side, and, hopefully, you're doing the right. But if you don't pick a side,   who are you to, you know, to   discredit   the things that this been chosen?  

But I think it's this game is so rich. So it eve eventually, if there are 850,000,000   Americans   and 894,000,000   blah blah blah blah, 1,000,000,   whatever, until   2 people are over that are not willing to take   no votes. There are only 2 people that will vote.   Then the whole country will be based on these 2 votes.   Like, these 2 votes could be tens of them, thousands of them,   millions of them.   But the that's it. So if you pick a side,   you have to, you know, fingers crossed and let's see what's happening. But I think that from another perspective, like, okay. I see something going right there. That's a cool game. I don't know who's playing.   But I can, you know, I can drive down the road. I can I I can spectate   the game without being   interfering the the or or put a red jacket on or blue jacket on? Just, like, okay. Or maybe to see, like, oh, this is a crazy game. I think it's rigged.  

Do you think so? It's rigged.   So   but then it comes back to   the conspiracy. That that comes back to the truthful community.   What's right or what's wrong? We don't know.   But as soon as you open up your eyes in your own universe and it's all good and it's all like it should be for you, and it's with love and support.   I screwed up today with support, but, hey. That's okay.   Otherwise, you got a lot of things back. So there's always yin and yang in a fucking day. Right?   And   the last couple of,   strongs,   it's been very challenging. Very challenging. But that's okay too. This it's the same with politics. You know? I voted for this one. Let's hope now   that he's going to, you know, reduce,   reduce some some some things or make that happen, and then just wait. Wait. Wait. But in the meanwhile,   you just have to live life in the in the in the most   beautiful and and most,   yeah, in the most beautiful and supportive and loving,   ways. Although,   just like I said, I screwed up today.  

Yeah. Sometimes you screw it up.  

[00:57:27] Unknown:

Yeah. I just look at it like like, okay. So I voted for Donald Trump. K?   But now that I voted, I I put my energy. I I I invested the time to drive down there. I I I I formulated my thoughts. I looked at it on paper, and I said, I could go this way or that way. Well, I'll choose this one. Okay? Now I I   I I got what I wished, and the guy that I voted for is now in the White House. Now what he does with it is what he does with it. I have to react to all those decisions being made and how they trickle down and affect me to where I live.   But all I know is that there are decisions that will affect how much maybe I get paid, you know, at the gas pump. You know? All I know is that I thought the green energy scam, the the the green energy deal and going all electric, we know that's bullshit.  

You know? So that's a good thing for me. They wanna get rid of it. That's good for me. You know, trade tariffs, bringing the pot price of groceries down if that happens. That's a good thing. There's a lot of promises being made. But what I've seen is a president that hit the office and is actually doing something. I got a president that's strong. Like, I think if Kamala Harris would've got in, dude, here's the it's   it's it's it, I don't think we would be respected on a stage. Like, at least I got this guy who's like a WWF   wrestling character. He's hilarious. He can answer questions. And I think, we're just a lot of love.  

Yeah. Oh, we got strong leadership. Whether whether it's good leadership or bad leadership, strong leadership. And I'd rather have strong leadership than weak leadership. He's not falling  

[00:58:56] Unknown:

he's not falling apart when he has an ice cream van in front of him or sniffs kids and stuff like that. Not yet. You know? The wait. No. He just No.   But that's the thing. You know? It's so ridiculous.   And I do agree with you, Ru. I do agree with you.   I was,   not really on the train of of of,   QA and QA and or whatever. But but Trump, you know, there were some great stuff   about him. Like, I'm gonna end the war in one day and stuff like that. You know, this guy has charis charisma.   Mhmm. But he also shook hands of leaders that never ever been imaginable   within 5 or 10 years ago.  

Like, world leaders that shook each other's hands, like China, Korea, and stuff like that.   Dude, he just he he just went in just like, out how he I'm I'm Donald Trump. Let let's let's settle down. I think   that he is a good option.   I I I really do so. Does he screw up? I think, of course. Because every leader   has has one point, you know, like, oh, this is good, but, oh, I don't want you to do this. It's like this fucking kindergarten. You know? Do you wanna go to a to to a, you know, to a to a swimming party? Yay.   And the one just, I can't swim, my fuck. No. They give   No. Oh, everyone wants candy.  

Oh, I'm sugar intolerated.   You know, everybody wants ice cream.   Well, I'm gluten free. Oh, come on. Just you know, we didn't have that shit. 10 years ago, you go you you go swimming. When you when you were down on the bottom, you you were rescued, and there was sensation that day.   Yeah. And everybody knew, like, hey, Dottie. He couldn't swim.   He had a great story to tell, but   oh, man.  

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Yeah. I I just think too, like, you you put it out there. You get it out there. And then and then you and then and then from then, it's not in your hands. That's where faith comes into play.   Like, okay. It's no longer in my hands. I I I give it up to you, god, because ultimately, I think good will always prevail   over evil. And like I said, even in the bible, like, there has been bad characters that had a change of heart and that they turned for the good, like like Saul of Tarsus when he encountered Jesus and the holy spirit on the road to Damascus. He was the biggest persecutor and killer of Christians, then he becomes the biggest Christian himself and the and the most close follower of Jesus. He writes all the letters,   to the to the churches   in the New Testament,   and and he becomes the one that builds the modern day church. Like, look at that transformation from from from the bad guy to the good guy. So I voted this guy in, and I'm leaving it in God's hands now, who, by the way, I believe in a God that's the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow to do amazing things. And I think that if we would all just do it, make a choice, put it out there, trust in God that the what's gonna happen is gonna happen. And the things that do happen, whether good or bad, they're all happening for a reason. And if that reason is ultimately to make us the best that we can be because it's challenging us in ways we've never been challenged before,   then it's all about how do you rise up to that challenge. And I'm all about rising up to the challenge, you know, but I put it out there and then I pray about it. And I ask God for his favor, and I ask for the things that I would like to see come to to pass. And I have faith that I know he's answering my prayers. Maybe not the way I want him to, but they're being answered. But ultimately, whether they get answered instantaneously.  

And I'm like, wow. That was awesome. God answered that prayer right away. But sometimes   it doesn't happen that way because we need to learn a lesson. He wants to teach us first. We have to go through things first. But I think, like, I believe in the collective power of prayer. So if we all start like, imagine   if,   I don't know how many people are in America. I think we got a 350,000,000   people. Oh, 350. Yeah. You know, not not not all of them are are are of the, of faith or, you know, believers. But let's say we take half that. Yeah. Let's say we take half that population, which would be, like, whatever it is. You know? Right.   A 175,000,000   of the 350,000,000.  

And all those 175,000,000   were praying, asking god for favor and asking god to pray. That collective consciousness, that collective prayer being lifted up to the to the throne of heaven. I believe God would answer our prayers, and and magical things can happen here on earth. Spiritual things could happen here on earth. Dude. And people's hearts could change, and and we could see good. But a lot of people just they don't care. They don't wanna get involved on on on a local level. They don't wanna get involved on a level on their own. They just want to bitch and complain about everything that's happened. They they don't wanna have a spiritual life. They don't wanna have a prayer life. They don't wanna do anything at work. They don't wanna do anything in their community, but then they wanna complain about what's going on. To me,   I'm putting it out there. I'm picking aside. I'm investing spiritual energy into it. I'm investing a prayer life into it. I'm investing all these things into it, but I'm also building myself up and learning lessons as they come. And if if if revelation plays out, which I don't wanna see happen on my watch, but if it did play out, like, I still have my faith to fall back on and I know, hey. This is what we're going through, but ultimately,   it's a purification   process. And I think the fire's weeding out things that don't need to be there.  

Sometimes things get chaotic because we let them become chaotic.   But then Yes. Out of that order, order will come back in and restore things. You know? Chaos, Queens harmony, dude. Chaos, Queens harmony.  

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Dude, you going sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. No. You're good.   Dude, you're gonna love the last episode that I did with Solara Volterra.   She's pointing out stuff that's been unfolding right now in front of her eyes from Donald Trump and revelations.   She's, also a believer of the bible and stuff like that. And really   connecting some dots like holy shit.   The other thing is, she pointed out at 28th   February,   there will be 7 planets aligned.   And also the church is gonna pray for some stuff.   So the collect I think she said, like,   150,000,000   people   are taking part of this, you know, praying event.  



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Uh-huh.  

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But, you know,   you can change a lot. I think Ben from the Unchained Brain podcast, shout out. Oh, yeah.   He said, like, the root of   what  

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I'm sorry, Ben, if I quote it wrong because I'm I'm disorganized. Well, he talked to he he talked about that on the episode that we did with him, you know, where you get these people together in a room and their collective consciousness comes together. The rude power that it the the the the power that and energy that it creates resonates throughout   throughout. You know? And that's that thing that I'm thinking,   what am I doing with the with the spiritual gifts and power that has been given to me? Am I not using it at all, or am I doing something with it? So by participating in it and praying about it and asking for the change that I wanna see, I'm putting that out there. So what's as believers, if you want good to prevail, then pray for good to prevail. Also, do things. Don't just sit back and not do anything. Actually, apply it in ways that you can even on the macro or macro, but start to apply it. But at least you gotta get in there, you gotta start doing that work, and you have to put it out there because I guarantee you, enemies on the other side that know black magic and all this evil is real, they're using it. So why don't the people that are in into white, you know, white magic, good things, the holy spirit, you know, I'm I'm using those terms in general for everybody, but like for me, like, I I believe in the holy spirit. So why am I not gonna pay with the power of the holy spirit and in prayer of the holy spirit to activate and do magical things. Like that's my way of participating in it. But if I'm not, if I'm not doing it, then I'm not adding my, my prayer power behind it. You know, I think it's like, like there's power in numbers. Right? So the more of us that can participate in these things, the more power that it creates.  

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Yes. But the thing is what she said is   be careful because when these 7 planets are aligned,   which is something like, woah, in in in in history of humankind.   And all of a sudden,   some leaders will take a notice about, you know,   meditation   or,   a prayer.   Then so many people are on the same level projecting their energy against that or whatever.   Mhmm. That is it could be, like, you know, so   big energy that really things will change   on a good way or in a bad way. We do not know. Well, it's it's, like, very powerful.   Even just like you said on your micro, miso, or, macro,   it's, it's it's so the the thing is I like this micro. Oh. Mhmm. Because that that's my micro   cosmos that I'm talking to, and somehow it's all out there. So it's it's also in in in in the ether and stuff like that. That's why I started podcasting, I think.  

Dude, I know that the last time that we talked to each other, which isn't that long ago, like, 2 strongs ago, something like that, We were covering Yeah. So many things. We were so pumped up. Like, oh, dude, we gotta talk about this. You still remember some things or not?  

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Yeah. I, I talked to you the weekend before last, I believe. And, yeah, I know you were telling me that you had done some episodes about, human trafficking there in,   the Netherlands.   Did those episodes drop?  

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Dude, I just dropped this episode,   this strong end.   So it's on audio. It's in Dutch. So Oh, okay. Yeah. That's what you're telling me. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing is,   I need the account from YouTube from someone else who has the channel where I was cooperating   with. So for listeners back at home, there's a Dutch   couple with a,   a son. He was back in the days 10 years old. They were living 7 years,   a bit off grid in Spain. And all of a sudden, there's a big dust   coming towards them, and a lot of cars stopped   with police and stuff like that. And first of all, they thought,   like, it was a veteran,   veterinarian check. So if the cow and and and the goats and and the the animals   are okay. Because that's normal that they do that, a checkup on livestock   every single whatever   with, you know, with a lot of things going on, Cyrus and stuff like that. But,   it turned out that within an hour that they didn't   got any information about what was happening, and they stayed calm, which is the first thing you gotta do when something like shit happens. You gotta stay calm because everything you do or say   will be used against you at that time or in the court of law. Right? Yeah. So they knew that because they were a little bit,   you know,   well, a little bit educated about that kind of stuff. So they said, we want papers. But they are Dutch. They speak some kind of Spanish, but not like the real,   what's what's it called? Like, the the business wise   Spanish. If you got documents, you know, it's it's like different kind of Spanish than, hey.  

Hola, hola, that's different. You know? So   within an hour,   they see all of a sudden a big cloud of dust   about all the cars and all the the police that were standing on their property   taken away their kid,   who was kidnapped kidnapped by authorities   illegally.   But before they figured out   what happened, how to get their kid back and stuff like that, That was quite a long process.   So what we did is I made first episode together with the corporation with Sidon Warriors who wants to, who is a organization that wants to point out everything that's been well, let's say corrupt or,   misbehaving   organizations and government   governmental,   organizations and stuff like that.  

So yeah. But   since that weekend's strong end,   things are starting to happen. So, my back hurdle all of a sudden. I was turning sick.   My Wi Fi, just before we hopped on, all of a sudden broke down.   I think we were editing for more than 10 hours in total,   if even more hours, both,   to get this episode going on the air.   So I got one sponsor that's gonna be   there also that you you're gonna listen to it even if you're listening to the American podcast right now. But the thing I wanna say is right here,   we recorded it in Dutch.   But when I'm gonna upload it on YouTube   within 1 or 2 days,   YouTube is making a transcript.  

With that transcription,   you can download it. It's like 5 minutes of work, and then you can get that trans grip back into your episode, and you can translate it in every single,   so you subtitle it in every single language that you want.   So you can imagine that how many people,   are struggling with this kind of stuff.   It's not like, oh, this is only 1   one,   Dutch family that has to face it in Spain.   Thousand of children   have been kidnapped   illegally   without any papers or without good paperwork.   Because   when they gonna try to get your child away and you're gonna be aggressive because you don't know what the fuck is going on, they have a reason   to back you down or to throw you into jail or to do whatever you want.  

Whatever they want to do with you.   So, yeah, it's gonna be a very, very,  

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So so, I because I haven't listened to the episode. So are you saying these are people that were traveling from one country to another in Europe and then ran into some of the authorities that were overstepping their authority?   No. It was this as in this is this, like, I don't know what terms you would use there in in Europe or   in Dutchland or or or Spain or wherever this is happening, but in Europe, but is this, like, are are are these authorities   overstepping   their their constitutional   limitations,   and they are doing stuff that it that is illegal to the people?   And and you guys are trying to bring it into the light so people know that this,   this corruption's going on and that children are involved. So so you guys can raise a conscious level about this and and start a movement so you guys can combat this and bring it to the attention of the public.  

And because that's what I'm saying. Like, we we talked about earlier, like, how do we fight this stuff? Well, that's how we fight this stuff. Right. We might not have all the answers, but we're bringing this to your attention. Like, hey. This is going on. This really happened. I'm talking to these people that this happened to.   This is what happened. This is this is what was done wrong to them.   Now let's find out what we can do   so so we can get this child back with with their parents. Right? Right. So so first of all, the Netherlands  

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well, Europe is just like America. It it it's like Spain and France and Belgium. And these are all states within European,   European,   Union. Union. Right. So just like American or Oregon and and and Las Vegas and all stuff. So   what did they were living already 7 years on a piece of land in Spain. So nothing I mean, the child was born there.   Probably when it was very young, it came to Spain. You know, they went to Spain, and they have this, the thing going.   The thing is well, I can say   not too much about story because it's gonna be a big cliffhanger.   So first of all, the child is back.  

K? That that's that's   that's the best part of it. The the child is back. These people want to   tell their story.   So everyone   that has the same thing going on will find the right support   and the right way to get the child back.   Because they always do that with, you know, with, a lot of aggression.   You will be completely intimidated   because there are, like, 5 or 6 police cars with   armed armed guns, armed policemen. You you're just like, what the is going on? You know? So you're gonna if they've if they're gonna do some stupid stuff or they're gonna touch you and you're gonna interact with them, that's what they want because then they have   they can take you away so they can get to their target.  

Why they wanna do that? What they're gonna do with it? That's, of course, the well, the speculations and stuff like that. But, well, we we're gonna unfold a, a story, and,   I do this podcast this Monday evening. So after this podcast, we're gonna edit it. Tomorrow gonna work. Tomorrow, I have another podcast. And on Wednesday, I'm trying to upload it on the Rumble channel. So then it will be transcripted within 2 or 3 days.   And then we're gonna download the transcript, and it will be all be subtitled in also English and stuff like that. And, hopefully, it doesn't   get   been   canceled because that's, of course, a big, big, big thing that could happen. That's why it's known rumble,   motherfuckers.  

Yeah. But it's in Dutch. So,   yeah, if somebody knows,   how to do the transcript   or wants to help me out to do that because it's it's for a good cause. There it's it's not like a one,   stand alone   story. There are Yeah. Thousands   of   of things happening right now   with children.  

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See, I I don't know if you could see this, but this is a book. See, I got my special screen up. So if they yeah. I took my screen off so you can see it. But but but, yeah, we got special screens. This is a book that was given to to me. Just I just recently got this in the mail, but it's called, First Wish. It's a collection of pause poems from, Bud Endries. But I don't know if you're familiar with the permaculture princess   who did an episode with us, back in the day. I don't know what number of episode it was, but it was quite some time ago. But, she's another member in the truth community, but that's what I'm talking about, what we wanna do with Firmamental.   You're talking about actually doing something. See, a lot of these podcasters wanna talk about the conspiracy of child trafficking,   the conspiracy of government agencies overstepping their boundary and taking somebody's child. But what are you actually doing to combat it? And that's what I'm saying that, like, we wanna talk we we were willing to talk about conspiracies, but let's talk about what we're gonna do. And, like, for instance, well, like, when you're talking, I'm thinking about it. This this gentleman, which is her dad, he wrote this book, and it's a compilation of poems that that he had wrote, that she had that she had saved throughout the years that her dad had wrote. And he never intended to re to, release it as a book. But he compiled a bunch of her dad's poems over the years, and she still had a collection of these poems. And she went to her dad and she said, hey. What do you think about releasing this as a book? They turned it into a book and her dad has a passion for what? Human trafficking.  

So everybody who buys this book,   all the proceeds, none of the proceeds are going to him. All the proceeds are going to these organizations   on the front lines that are actively fighting what human trafficking. So that's what I'm talking about. And and, and I wanna have her on my show, and we're gonna promote her dad's poetry book. And when you go and buy the book, the money that we're spending is actually going to fight the problem that's going on. Right. That's what I'm talking about. It's different than just talking about a conspiracy.   It's having somebody on your show that's actually doing something about it. Yes. Yes. And this is a complete organization  

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to do it. And and,   I'm I'm I'm a very, what what's that called?   I'm a crazy motherfucker sometimes. Right?   You do that for me. If we we we have late hours and early mornings.   Right? So,   the thing is, I think that when you can't   ridicule   stuff,   that's the piece that that's the brink of extension from something.   But if you can't ridicule something, if if you can't make a joke out of it. But the intention of the joke is that someone else has to listen to it   with the intention why has the joke been made. Is it like, you know, just to to get into   some reaction or to think about it? Yeah. I was I was on,   Milton's podcast, and I said, well,   trafficking is some is something big. I mean, there's a there are buses. There are planes. So I ridiculed it a little bit. I mean, I'm not   I'm not saying   kidnapping.  

I'm 100%   convinced that there are people against their will been taken from a to b.   That's trafficking that we wanna point out. Like, that's not the way that that society should be. But it's been so preferred that they they whoever they are the beast or whatever gonna say,   trafficking blah blah blah blah blah. Why? Just to give you a different point of view about it.   Then you have to pay very, very much attention.   Why they say that?   Because when they say, oh, there's been trafficking 800,000   people or whatever.   You're not gonna pay attention because it's a word that's been into your brain programmed   and you're not making any sense out of it if it's gonna be bad or not.  

That's why I pointed out like, oh, we're trafficking so many people. So who knows? You know? I'm   So that's why I did  

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it. There there's a great there's a kind of, like I I think I understand what you're saying, but,   they they've used a lot of word magic. Right? It's it's used on us all the time. And I think that's what I tell people. That's one of my silver bullets for for level playing geocentrism   actually is, like, look at the words like horizon,   horizontal planet,   planet, aeroplane because it's flying over a flat plane. Like, I'm like, look at it, you know. Water level. It's level. It doesn't magically curve. It's level. Level is not a curve. Right?   So that and and you're talking about it with words, and that's what they do. Like, the people that control this matrix that we live in, they get these tag words.  

You might be trying to find out information, but if you're using their algorithms to find out this information, you gotta watch the language that you're using because it will only give you the information that they want you to seek about whatever it is you're looking at. They give you their version of the so you gotta you gotta dig a little bit deeper to find the information that you're actually looking for. So you gotta be crafty with the way you use your words. And and this is just a this is just a small micro example of the macro, but for instance, there's a cartoon that just came out in the movie theaters or it's coming up. I don't know if it came out to the movie theaters yet, but the cartoon is called   dog man.  

And it's this cartoon about a canine police officer who's a cop that rolls around with a canine dog, and they get in an accident. And the and in the cartoon, they have a surgery, and they connect the dog's head to a human's body. And then it becomes this this this canine cop, and it's called and they the cartoon is called dog man.   So where I'm going with this is if you go and type in dog man, and let's say you wanted to do research on dog man, the cripping.   Okay? So you go type in dog man.   It's not gonna bring up dog man like the werewolf cryptid that people are going and looking for and trying to find articles about. It's gonna put the what's the number one thing that the Internet's gonna pull up? It's gonna pull up this cartoon. Dude, they do that all the time. There is there's a series  

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of free movies. It's called rampage.   It's about a guy who's sitting in his car, and you see he's fed up by society. He listens to the muse the news. And, you know, peep people been shut down this.   This is bankrupt. Blah blah. He he's getting all this information. He thinks, like, you know what? I'm gonna fucking kill everyone.   That is   the first movie is just like rampage. I'm gonna make myself something worthwhile. I'm gonna shoot every motherfucker I'm gonna cross in the streets.   So you think like, oh, this is a madman, but the oh, the craziest thing about the movie is you think like, damn. He's right.   Yeah. He's he's not pickpocketing like, oh, you're you're you're you're it, and you're not no. Everyone just fuck off. There are free movies of it. But all of a sudden, when this   movie was almost like a cult status that a lot of people digged into it,   Rampage came out from The Rock.  

Total different movie, total different story, total different bullshit.   So if you look at Rampage,   you have to see, like, maybe the dark web will will will show you the movies, you know. That's   oh, they do that all the time. But be careful, Raul, and all the listeners. That's why I'm trying to say with the with the with the trafficking.   If something is really perverted, like trafficking.   Right?   Mhmm. If they if they put it on a plate just like that and   they and they let taste you,   all of a sudden you will be indoctrinated   by, oh, oh, it's child trafficking. Child traffic.  

So if the the the meaning why I wanted to ridicule   it is that you think like, oh, man. How dare you? Because Eric Finneas love you, dude. He was he was, you know, spitting some   oh, dad. Rob, how could you? And I thought just like   I I sent him a message. I said, dude, exact   what I'm trying to say here right now. I made my point. You're thinking about it, and and you you think it's very perverted.   Right? Because it is when you make fun of it. But it's still a a very   dark,   topic.   But because they pointed at you at that point,  

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nobody's gonna talk about it. Well well, I I I don't like the way that they demonize.   At least the media tries to, on some sense,   pervert us from talking about a lot of these subjects because if you bring it up, all of a sudden you're slapped with a label   and you're banned on your accounts,   you know, you're demonetized,   you're defunded, you're buried in the algorithms. So they try to make,   keywords and stuff where we can't talk about it.   And, I think he's I I think I know the conversation that you were talking about with yourself and and,   and Milton, and and it was this thing got brought up about human trafficking, and and, I think that,   Milton was trying to say something about, the the human trafficking is like the is just like another form of slavery or something, he was saying. Right. Yeah. There's a difference between it's a but really what I think the point and and I know that English is his second language and English is is your second language. It's not your first primary language.  

But,   I think   that there is migration coming   into America. Okay? And I'm just gonna use America because this is where I live. And I think this has happened in Europe too. There's a lot of European countries where they've allowed a large influx of people from other cultures coming into those countries. And I think it's a systematic plan to break down these countries and degrade their society to to to to reform and reset   a form of government   that is not for the people that were originally there. So it's this mixing of cultures   that doesn't mix. You can't like, when you ingratiate   into somebody's society,   you have to respect their customs. You have to respect their ways. It has to be organized.  

Like, my problem is with what's been going on in America is illegal migration.   And and and and I think Milton was trying to say, like, well,   like, this has been going on forever just like they brought the slaves over here. You know? Well, this is different because,   these people aren't being forced to come here. They want to come here. Okay? And I understand that there's people that want to come here for the right reasons because they want to a better opportunity   because the place that they're from   is is corrupt, bad. They have some opportunities as so they're coming here for that opportunity at Better Life for themselves and their and their and their children's lives. Mhmm. But along with those small amount of people that are coming here for the right reasons,   now,   they're they haven't been it hasn't been regulated. So now you've got people that are coming into our country illegally   that aren't coming with good intentions, that are coming because they see they're licking their chops because, like, I can go over there. I can get a free government check. I can go over there and get EBT cards. I can go over there and get hotel vouchers. I can go over there and do that. I can go over there and commit crime. I can be undocumented. I don't have to pay taxes. And Right. I have a problem with people coming over here and using our system   and not contributing to our society. And there's a lot of places around the world that hate America. And you don't think that that that places around the world that despise America would fund criminals to come here and cause chaos in our country. Oh, yeah. So so we become weak, and they bring down our society so they could infiltrate,   break down our communities, flood us with drugs,   flood us with with criminal activity, have us disperse our resources in ways that is like, look. Instead of taking people here that are here illegally, why don't you take care of the people that are already here that What else? Like your veterans that have fought in your wars that are still homeless. Why don't you take care of them before you're giving somebody who migrated here? I'm cool with my with with immigration.  

Like America   was all immigrants.   Like all the Europeans that came here, they were all immigrants at one time, but you have to assimilate properly. It can't be a free for all of undocumented people because when you have something going on and it's not regulated, it's not controlled, it gets out of control. Yes. And now we got an influx of people that are here that are doing wrong. You don't know if they're terrorists. You don't know if they're drug dealers. You don't know if they're cartels. And it is a fact. I'm sorry. It is a fact. Criminal factions from around the world and especially in South America   that wanna get rid of their problem, they're like, oh, America has open borders. So why don't we just take our problem children and just send them over there to them and make them deal with them now? Right. Well, it's not our responsibility   to take care of your criminal population.  

Get your country in order. You take care of that. We're not letting them in here. They they were causing problems over there.   And you think they're gonna come over here and change their ways and we're gonna fix them? Like, no. We're all for people coming here, but you gotta come here with the intention of of assimilating properly,   learning our American values, learning the American way, learning our culture, learning our constitution,   and paying the price. We're not funding you to send your criminals here so we can take care of them.   Like, it has to be regulated.  

America   has enemies around the world. You don't think that China or Russia or whoever they say the boogeyman is, the these countries in the Middle East that hate us, you don't think that they would fund and pay, people to come up through our southern border who are agents to come over here   and and and and do terror attacks for them. That's a big possibility.   It needs to be regulated. We need to have a control. And underneath the underneath the the previous administration that was in the White House, they weren't doing anything about this. And meanwhile, we got we got, women that were that had been raped over here. We got, you know,   them finding cargo ships with with children that don't have any parents undocumented. We got drugs flooding our borders,   at a rate that we've never seen before. We got the most rates of fentanyl deaths   in in the United States. We got criminal factions all over the country popping up. We need to get control of this. So that's why I'm glad that we have a president now that's saying no. Let's get a hold of this this because our our streets are unsafe. And it's real. Like, people wanna say it's not happening. It is real. I was working in a drug rehab facility in the streets of Albuquerque, New Mexico. You don't think that the fentanyl crisis, the drug crisis, the crime, all this stuff was out of control? It was.  

You know, I'm all for power. We need to have law and order. Now do we need to have author authoritarian   law and order? Do I want, like Yeah. Yeah. It's different. Like but but but, dude, I respect our first responders. I respect our police officers. I respect our firefighters.   They need to be funded. Like, look what just happened with the LA fires. Like, they want they cut the funding of the of the fire department by $29,000,000.   They blew up the dams   that would have,   given them the water reserves that they could've used for the fire hydrants to fight those fires. It's a complete,   mishandling,   of all the funds and resources that they could've used to stop these events from getting out of hand. And immigration has become a huge problem,   and and they weren't doing anything about it. And they're like, oh, building walls,   you know, is isn't gonna dude, you have to have it controlled. Like, you have to have you have to have order, and we have a president that actually wants to do something about it and Right. Give power to the immigration police so they can regulate it and and and get the people out that don't deserve to be here. I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Yeah. The the thing is it's it's very similar to here to the u to Europe.  



[01:32:20] Unknown:

And if you're critical about that, oh, don't do that. I mean, you could be thrown into jail because you're open up your mouth about something that they wanna sponsor. Right? But just like you said with with the, with the fires, the cutting the budget of 209   290,000,000   or 29,000,000 or whatever.   What what do you think is their agenda? So   taking in perspective, like, okay,   I voted for Donald Trump. I think he's he he he could do some good for for for, the nation of of America.   But,   he he   would he also be like, okay. We're gonna cut that crap.   Would he take over the place in a good way? Because now it seems that   and so screwed up in such a huge level, like immigration,   the things that they do with the money,   the things they wanna wanna, charge us for. Right? Because we have to pay for all these stupid plans that make no sense at all. And if we if we're gonna take a scientist   a scientist that that really has some facts and stuff like that and push it upfront, like, okay. Talk to the microphone. That one will be canceled, will be killed, or they will mock him or throw him into jail because they don't want you to put that fucking proof out. So what do you think is happening on a,   on a worthy,   not global, on a worldly, on a worldly,   stage?  



[01:33:41] Unknown:

So I I just think that, and listen too. Like, could could they have possibly created all these problems   so they could get this figure, Donald Trump, and make him   appear to be America's savior? He's Gonna have all the answers for these problems and, like, now, oh, we got our champion who's gonna come in. I I'm, oh, I'm aware that I'm saying these. But look. We have to take the victories when we could get them. Okay?   And so if some good is because, like, what I saw would happen with California. Like, let's be honest. Look at the mess that California has become. And I'm sorry.   The the the the democratic   leadership has done the state of California   much wrong. They have they have,   screwed those people that live over there so bad. The cost of living through the roof. Homelessness through the roof. Gang activity through the roof. Drugs flooding their street through the roof. Mishandling of funds during the pandemic through the roof. And then and then when they need the infrastructure to take care of a problem when actual disaster hits, now they can't take care of it because they've misused all their funds, and now it's out of con control. And now the federal government has to come save them. And I saw when Donald Trump was talking with Gavin Newsom, he's like, you want federal help, don't you? You want federal well, you're gonna play ball our way now because you guys obviously have let get out of control. We're willing to help you, but you're gonna you're gonna change your policies. Like, and that's the thing. Like,   honestly, I think that if we looked over the last 4 years, it's like, they wanna write checks every month, 200,000,000 to Ukraine, 2 Right. Another 200,000,000 to Israel, another, $1,000,000,000 here, another $1,000,000,000 there. We're giving it all away while we have all this shit happening here in our homeland that we're not taking care of, but you wanna give money to everybody else all around the world. It's like, hey. Let's stop and take care of ourselves here at home before we start meddling in everybody else's business. Mhmm. And in a sense, I've kind of seen that. Like, if we can stop wars from happening and start to fix some of these issues in our country first, because you can't help somebody if you yours can't help yourself. It's the same thing. Like, if I if I'm not doing any good and I'm not if I'm not making myself better, if I'm not go going to work and doing things to to better my life, then if someone of my relatives needs help and I'm just screwing off my life and just wasting all my money   and I'm and I and I'm in bad physical shape. What if what if I was,   what if I was plastered drunk and I had no money in my bank account and my nephew called me and said, hey. I'm over here, and, you know, I I need a ride. And and I was like, oh, sorry. Well, I can't pick you up because I have no money. I'm drunk, and I can't drive right now. I'm no no good to you. Like, we you can't go get helping and rescuing people unless you're good for yourselves. And in a sense, our our country was just being irresponsible.  

So when things actually happen in our and and our our people need help, our country was like, oops. Sorry. We we can't because, sorry. We just So The money's not here. And I think that's what's going on. Like and I was glad, like, because when Donald Trump did this, he's like, yeah. I'm willing I'll we're gonna we're gonna help you, California. We're gonna help rebuild.   But he also went and said, well, they forgot about North Carolina. What happened in just North Carolina? What happened in East Palestine   or Iowa with the buckle train derailment? What happened to old space? You guys forgot about those? He actually made it a point to go stop and talk to those people, and it was the first time I've ever seen any president   let just average normal folk grab the microphones and tell their stories. I don't know if you've seen that, but it was on the news. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll Dude, those were not crisis actors. I'm sorry, folks. Not everything is a deception. That's what I'm saying. Some things are happening in real life, and we are seeing some victories. We need to have accountability.  

We need to have strong leadership. We need to have these things. Like, ultimately, do I trust the guy completely?   No. I don't because I don't like the AI shit. I don't like the fact that a $1,000,000,000 being invested in AI. I don't like Elon and the and I don't, I don't like the space programs and all this stuff. But, ultimately, I think that good is coming out of these situations, but we gotta take the good with the bad. Just like I'd rather have some victory than no victory at all. And I want strong leadership, and we got strong leadership finally. So now let's see what happens with it, and we'll react as it comes. But, dude, it like, the what we were underneath the left in this country, we were screwed. We were screwed. We we had we had the we had weak military. At least now, we have, like, a a a a leader that's capable of making sound choices with the world's strongest military. We have a strong leadership that can actually go and and talk to foreign dignitaries from around the world without shitting himself or forgetting his next sentence. Right. You know? We have a a strong leadership that understands economics and and bartering and trading and putting tariffs that could rebuild our economy. We got a we got a president that wants a strong I don't Yeah. He's a businessman.  

[01:38:18] Unknown:

So, like, so yeah. I do. He's a manager. You know? He he knows what what kind of people, knows   where where to place them. And I think that you pointed out just like a few, few minutes ago, like, that that's the kind of savior   that you need as a country and something to believe in, some faith that you need   as a country to know, like, okay. This is a leader.   I think he's gonna do the the good thing. You know? So that that's why I'm going to be,   backing him up. When shit hits the fan, I'm gonna back him up. Because I know that for from most of the parts that he's gonna tell, he's he's,   you know, intelligent but a decent person, and he wants to do the best for the country.  

Not like, you know,   like Biden. Oh my god. I I mean,   maybe maybe they should lock an age   on voting for president. You know? Like, if you're   above 65, I don't know how how old Trump is. Oh, Donald Trump, though. He's in his late seventies, but his faculties are there yet. But yeah. Well, he's still oh, man. He's still stand standing strong. I know I don't know what kind of drugs he is on, but he's he's he's he's he's healthy, and he's wealthy in his mind.   Yeah. You know? He can dodge question. He will answer a question with another question. That's   I like him. I I I do like him. I I I know  

[01:39:35] Unknown:

Yeah. You know? I don't I don't I don't trust the guy. No. No. I don't trust anyone except myself.   He he is not I he is not my savior. I'm saying that. He is not Jesus to me. He is not the savior of America. He is not the savior of the world. Let me set that straight. He is not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. What he is doing   Is good. Is some good. There is some good there. We can't be in denial about that. Like and that's the thing that's pissing me off. And that's why I kinda wanna pull away it's not just because of the Donald Trump thing. That's just something that I point out because it's it's what people can see. It's what's happening right now. But I'm telling you people, like, I'm tired of everybody complaining about what's going on and making everybody to be out to be the boogeyman.   And and I'm like, dude,   you think that everybody on the world stage is all in it together? There's no freaking way. There's no way. It's like saying every actor in Hollywood   is,   you know, has sold their soul to the devil. No? So I'm sure I'm sure there's some people that sold their soul to get there, but haven't you you don't think that there's any actors in Hollywood that got in there because they actually had talent? There is. Oh, shit. There's some that never had to compromise their soul to to get that. Are are are there some some musicians that sold their soul for fortune and fame to the devil to rise to the top? Oh, yeah. Sure. They will. And they'll pay for it. They will pay fat for that spiritually. But you don't think that there's musicians that were actually just good, had raw talent, and made their way to the top? Of course. And it's just like this. Let's take the let's take the world stage. Right?  

And people wanna be like, well, all these world leaders, they're all part of the new world order, and they're all secretly friends, and they're all shaking hands behind closed doors. People are like, oh, yeah. Biden and Trump and all them, they're just laughing behind closed doors, shaking hands. It's just WWF.   He's macho man savage, and he's, Hulk Hogan. But our secretly hate each other behind closed doors. They're shaking hands. Like, no. I don't really think so. Do you know that? And and think and and think about this.   That's like saying everybody on the world stage, they're all in it together. All the world's leaders are in it together, and they're just they're just doing this to ultimately get us into this new world or order, but they're they're they're all doing this because they're they're fine. They can go hide into their bunkers while the world get the stories. We'll destroy ourselves, and they will come back out. Like, no way. That's like saying like, even if you had a football team, there's 54 members on an American football team. Right? That's like saying, at all times, everybody gets along. No.  

Players on that team fight within that team. They fight during practice.   F you. I wanna get traded to another team. I don't like you. Fire the coach. Get rid of him. Bring somebody else in. It's the same thing with the world politics. You think all these people are just getting along and it's all no. No, man.   There's a lot that's going on and not all of these people like each other.   And there are enemies around the world,   and I think that not all these people are in bed together. And and maybe some of the guys that you think are the bad guys are actually the good guys, and they're telling you that they're the bad guys. They're telling you that they're the bad guys   because,   they actually really don't like them. You know? And and what does media point out  

[01:42:44] Unknown:

about you and makes up a narrative that's maybe   exactly the opposite as they did with Donald Trump for quite some time?   What's the truth anyway? So that's what I'm trying to say with the helicopter view. Like, okay.   There's been unfalling on on me. So so not like so you got a frog view. You know? You're looking from from from from downstairs to up. Like, oh, that's big. That's big. Oh my god. What's happening right here? They got a bird view, but then you got a helicopter view. You're just like, okay. Oh, wait a minute.   You know? And I think that's that's the thing that we should do as humans. You know?  

Take for granted what's real and and what's not. Make your own plausible truth. But meanwhile, just being a good person, support each other, love each other. And I I know that our belief system sometimes really clashes, but we never clashed. You know what I'm trying to say here? Because we all respect each other's   other points of view because we're like the human behind the point of view. I   think   that that that that's maybe one of the best messages that I can give.   Although I'm still I'm still struggling sometimes with,   some people within my own network, and that has to do with some family.  

Like, oh, fuck. I fucked up all the time. But why is that? You know? I I wanna support. I wanna love.   I got it back, and sometimes I screwed up all all of a sudden again. It has to do with some but but it's the same thing, like, if you're gonna put some trust or some faith into someone or something or whatever, then you you you want to get something out of it, you know, that's positive.   If not, you gotta take the lesson. You gotta do it again until you, you know, you're fulfilled with your with your expectations.  

[01:44:27] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think I think too, like, as conspiracy theorist in a in a sense too, we're all anarchists where we, like we we think that we're we should be ruling   we should rule ourselves. We should rule our own world, and we don't need the others ruling over us.   But I think that's kind of like a pipe dream in a sense. Like, I like the concept of that, but we're not at the place as a society living cohesively in peace and harmony with one another where I think we're where we could pull that off. And what I mean by that is   use the team analogy again. If you got a football team with 54,   you know, hormone raged athletes that just wanna get out there and hit each other and smash each other, but you had no head coach, all these 54 knuckleheads would be doing would be fighting over the game plan and fighting on the sidelines, and they get nothing accomplished on the field. Like Oh, no one is crazy game.  

In in a sense, you need a a a leader with a sound mind   to to to   get people to sit down and have and and gain a collective goal and focus and say, hey. We need to come together. Like, set this apart. Do it for the better of the team and get bring in the focus. Yes. And we need people in our lives that are strong leaders. It's like if you're running a business, you can't you you got you,   like, there's a lot on a flip side, sometimes there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians. There's too many people that wanna bark orders Yeah. But not enough people that wanna do the footwork. So where's finding the balance? I think finding the balance in society   is is learning the the role that you play in your society.  

And and if democracy really worked at it at at its truest essence and its truest form, it is the most beautiful   system because it's it's the it's the   some of the of of what represents the whole, selecting who they want to represent them. And we do need leaders that that are strong and gifted   and and and and and are looking out for the vision of of the whole. But the thing is is with politics,   any anything with power, it becomes corrupted, and and money corrupts. And all these these things corrupt. Systems are corrupted because power, financial,   all this   stuff. But I think still that's what we're yearning for.  

And I I I think with America now, at least,   you know, we're seeing at least a strong leader, somebody who is at at least capable of being a leader when we had a shell of a man who who was no leader at all. Right. So whether or not you like the direction that the coach is taking the team, at least we have a coach that is coaching the team. Right. Like,   not this not this free for all. You know? And I I think it's like that with life. And I think what we need to do is figure out how do we fix the systems   to weed out corruption and get the people that actually are the best to represent   the maj the majority.  

The problem has become with politics   is that we still haven't figured that out. And I think it's actually the the the demonic spirits that have a stronghold on our societies and our families and our very minds because I think it's a spiritual battle, man. I don't think it's it's a financial   obviously, finance finances   every Well, value. Currencies every Currency. But but, but, yeah, I think it's I think it it,   wars in a traditional sense have always been fought with bombs and guns and and Right. Blood being spilled. That's still happening in the world. But I think World War 3   is more of a spiritual war. It's a war for your soul. It's a war for your mind. It's a war to push us into this   what they would want global   conglomerate   where we're all plugged into this system,   and, we're feeding off the matrix, and you gotta be plugged into this digital society where every single aspect of your life is being monitored. And we, as humans, we just wanna live a peaceful existence and eat clean food and raise our families Right. And not be spied on. We want privacy. We want these things. So how do we learn to live like how we were intended to live by the god that created us? And how do we have families? And how are we still still able to do all the things we wanna do while we're being forced to live in this   technocratic   dictatorship?  

But, like, we need to figure it out. And that's the one thing that I don't like about Trump   is the is the the the the the the techno side, the technocratic   side, and the AI side and all this. But then there's this other side that I do like, but it's like everything else in life. Do you like it's always like, do you like vanilla? Do you like this? Do you like that? But you can't have both.  

[01:49:03] Unknown:

Like I think you pointed out so hard to explain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you pointed out good. The the thing is that we got   54   54 people normally in a game.   So Yeah. Yeah. So American football, 54. So so so 54. The the thing is, nowadays, we we,   we have so many diverse personalities   and cultures and all that stuff mixed together   that has to be a team that never could make a team. Because they have so many divided   thoughts, belief system, culture, backgrounds,   traumas, all the fucking shit that that you can imagine.   And then you got one leader   that maybe stands up and that that has a right direction.  

But maybe 20 or 30%   of that team will drift off because of their belief system.   So that that's the whole problem, I think, also with the immigration.   Well, the bad thing is that we have too many people with different kind of,   belief systems and coaches and and,   fuck. What's the word? That is enormous.  

[01:50:08] Unknown:

Not everything goes together. Right? It's like when you're makes food.   So it's with some ingredients,   but some ingredients don't. You'll ruin a good pot of stew if you throw in the wrong ingredient.   And I think we have a beautiful pot of stew over here in America, but some of the shit that's coming over here is not good ingredients eating out of doing the stews. And and this is this is what I say with that. Like, like, with, illegal immigration, man.   If if if you wanna know the truth,   you wanna come to America because you see the America as this land of opportunity. But America has a lot of problems, folks. So if you're I'm talking to people from around the world because our podcasts are worldwide. Right? Anybody on the world can end up finding the show. Listen. Let me tell you. How about instead of trying to trying to run away from your life and thinking it's gonna change just because you go somewhere else, how about you guys get together and fix the government where you're at? If you have a problem with your government, do something to overthrow them to to   to take it over. Because over here in America, we've had to fight our own wars to get it the way we want. All we're saying, we don't want people coming over here and messing it up again where we have to do that again. We should learn from the first time. And some people, it's a privilege to be here. You come here the right way, you can deserve to be here. But if you're coming over here and you're gonna cause problems, we ain't gonna let you in. A matter of fact, you come over here and you start causing problems. You flooded my my streets with drugs. You raped my daughter. You raped my niece. You raped my wife. You molest a child. You do this. You do that, bro. I'm sorry, dude. There is no like, dude, we're tough people here in America. Right. We don't put up with shit, and and we're not gonna let people come over here and and and destroy our country like that.  

You know? And   it sounds hard, but if if if it's bad where you live,   then get together with the people where you live and fix it.  

[01:51:49] Unknown:

Yes. Try to come over here and bring your problems with you. It's just Or even go back to your own fucking system and change your self before you're gonna change it on another level.   Yeah. Because a lot of people wanna change something, but they're fucked up by themselves.   Mhmm. You can't you you can't preach.   You can't practice what you preach if if you have if you're living in a shitty life   and and you're you're you're not working out, you're not mentally,   wealth or whatever. And then trying to to proclaim that on others if you can't live that own life. So what happening and that's that's coming back to what Ben said. If if you all have the same,   spiritual   energy going   within yourself, like, I'm the good person. I wanna I wanna spread love to everyone.  

You know?   A person next to you is gonna pick that up. He's gonna radiate that energy again. So that's gonna be radiation after radiation after radiation because it's a good thing to do to do. So that's how you change the world. It's not like, oh, I'm I'm fed up by the government, so let's throw over. Oh, you got a plan?   Mhmm. Okay. Okay. So so let that's good. Okay. You wanna throw over the government. So what's your fucking plan? Oh, I wanna I wanna yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Tell me what you wanna do, and maybe then it it's gonna be worthwhile.   I do not agree with the the the   nowadays political statement and the and the political shit show that we're in. But   I think   humankind   or or mankind   is   really ready   to have no politics   and no religion involved   into their lives. If they want that, perfect. Politics is a game. Religion is belief,   but you still can respect and love each other   no matter what you believe and what side that you are.  

Mhmm.   So I think the best way to close this, because I wanna wrap it up a little bit. We're almost 2 hours in row. Yeah. I know. That would be fine. Best thing we can we can do, and you can sing along with me, is to is to to end it up with with the star that we started with.   Yeah. Right? Yeah.   Always   look at the bright side of life.   And you're you're   dude, it was been amazing again.   It was amazing. Yeah. You you had a good time?  

[01:54:09] Unknown:

Yeah, man. And like I said, dude, I just I I just want I want people that stick to their convictions. Like, pick a side, do something.   Don't just sit back and just,   you know, all this is going on and   That shit's done. So overwhelming. Like, no. Like,   do something. Right. Do something.   Start with yourself. Once you get to the once you get to the point where you're like, okay. I'm seeing some progress in my life. But I think that's why that's why they that that that they've done this. They that's why they poisoned us. That's why they poisoned our mind with this dribble. I'm learning, dude. Watch what I'm putting in my ears, what I'm listening in my ears. Watch what I'm watching with my eyes. Watch what I'm eating with my mouth. Watch because it really does affect you. So just watch what you're doing with yourself because what they're doing is they're making making they're making us dumb. They're making us homogeneous. They're making us you know, they're pumping men with estrogen and all this stuff to make us weak, little, fat, soft. Like, be a man. Embrace manhood.   Be tough. Be strong. Be the pillar of your family. It's okay to have strong opinions. It's okay to say I don't like this. It's okay. But but at the same time, have love. Love for your brother. Pick your brother up off the streets and say, what are you doing, man?  

Get your life   right. Like, you're killing yourself. Get back in the game, son. Like, that's what I want, man. Like, let's get in the game. Let's be strong. Let's be men. Let's get our freaking neighborhoods back. Let's get our lives back. Let's freaking stop this bullshit. Let's do our children right. Let's take care of ourselves   so we could be the man that shit did hit the fan. But we're not that one on the phone saying, sorry. I can't help you because I'm so broken myself. Like, be ready. Be ready. Stay ready. Be mentally fit. Be spiritually fit. Be physically fit.   And   Amen, boo. That's it.  



[01:55:52] Unknown:

Amen to that. Alright. Dude, thank you for your energy, for your time, Raul, to hop on this organized production. So I hope you had a good time. For all the listeners back home, I hope you have a beautiful grand rising, beautiful day, or beautiful evening no matter where you are on this beautiful plain planet. And, yeah, we're gonna I'm good. 1, 2, 3.   Always   look on the bright side of life.   Always   look on the bright   side of life.   I don't know the fucking lyrics, but it's No. No. Either. I just been at that whistle while you were going.  

[01:56:33] Unknown:

Hey. Thanks for having me again, man. You know how it is over here on Firmamental. Protect your domes, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tell them what where do they can find you, Firmamentals   5 on Instagram. Right? Yeah. But just go to the Firmamentals podcast.com,   and you could connect to anywhere you find,   podcasts.  

[01:56:51] Unknown:

Thanks for, up and on, man, and,   God bless  

[01:56:54] Unknown:

you. You too, brother. Okay. Bye bye.  

[01:57:22] Unknown:

I'm running for all my life with a devil on my heels.   He wasn't always kind,   and he couldn't fulfill my dreams.   He's a pain in the ass,   black